Armagh Club football & hurling

[winsamsoon]

Great return there umgolaar. Benny we have no problem taking responsibility for our own actions. I have already said that if a ref is ok i won't utter a word. Infact i will say he has had a good one. I will call a spade a spade. I will never complain about a ref if he is consistantly bad for both teams. I have respect for referees and i don't envy the job the have to do because i know certain people can never see anything they do correctly. I do however get very angry when i see particular individuals continiously going out of their way to  rob innocent lads who train hard all year. i am not looking for a perfect ref all i ask is for the ones that clearly have vendetta'so grow up and do the game correctly and impartially. By the way it ain't only clans folk that have complained about Quigley.

[Armagh Exile]

Win,
Who is the Clan na Gael referee?

[umgolaarmagh]

Cheers Win

[AFS]

Deadly serious, we now have 2 guys suspended for God knows how long as he says he is putting them thru for threatening behaviour and they are two very quiet guys who normally wouldn't say a word. totally out of character for them.

I couldn't believe it when he tried to march them all into the changing room and he was then going to give them a speech on how he likes to play GOD on the pitch

Threatening behaviour is threatening behaviour, regardless of whether or not it is out of character for the person. No matter how shit a ref is, there is no excuse for abusing him after a match. There are more dignified ways of getting your point across.

[crossfire]

Have the usual Cullyhanna posters no comment to make about the alleged thuggery by their fellow club members at the wekend ?

[winsamsoon]

Clan na Gael exile never had a senior ref since Paul Cadwell. But this year they have got Dee Mc Conville. Dee had been a Clann Eireann ref till this year and he has fallen out with them so we have adopted him. I think exile the fact that we have no senior ref is part of our problem. It is entirely our fault for not having a senior ref in the first place. However if we would have had a ref all these years then at least we would have had someone in the know, and someone who could maybe asks some questions why certain individuals were doing what they are doing. AFS i agree 100% with you threatening behaviour is threatening and should not be tolerated. Both players were totally wrong is slabbering the way they did. They were very hot tempered and worked up at bein robbed by the same bollox two weeks in a row ( but i am not condoning it in any way) But i would hope you can acknowledge Quigley going out of his way to come into the the dressing room after it had all died down was complete stupidity and only served one cause, To further highten the tension.  In my eyes he got what he wanted to achieve, more fuel so he could crawl back to silverbridge with a smile on his face knowing it was a job well done and he had got another one over on the clans.

[Yes I Would]

Have to agree with Clans boys on this one. Seen this clown in action too many times!!
This guy is a complete upstart who cant let a game be played without having to be the centre of attention. He seems to get some twisted satisfaction from getting involved with players while refereeing.
Was this guy bullied badly as a child, and is now trying to exact revenge???

[illdecide]

Have to agree with Clans boys on this one. Seen this clown in action too many times!!
This guy is a complete upstart who cant let a game be played without having to be the centre of attention. He seems to get some twisted satisfaction from getting involved with players while refereeing.
Was this guy bullied badly as a child, and is now trying to exact revenge???

you're not going to believe this This is a cracker...after he was sent from our changing rooms into the store where he was changing he asked me could he speak to the two young lads that he had sent off, so i sent them in thinking he was gonna say "look lads i sent you off and there is nothing i can do about that but i will go easy on you in my report" or "in the heat of the moment lads you were out of control but the next time blah blah blah" but no he started to lecture them about how he was beat up when he was 19 and the blood was pouring from him lying on the street, WTF is this man on

Either it was a Clans man that beat him up or he just has a chip on his shoulder and is out to get revenge on the world. The best about it was he told this story to the 2 young lads and our chairman who went in with them and at the end of his story about him getting a hidding he said "I'm still putting my report in and I'll make sure you get 6 months".

Them lads are better men than me for I'd have busted the c**t there and then. Is this the same guy who is not allowed to do any Cross games??I know Crossmaglen told the county board that if a certain ref turned up to do their game that they will refuse to play, I'm not 100% sure who the ref is but I'd put money on it that its that clown

[altovito]

he is a shit ref.1 of the wrst in the country
wonder who beat hm up when he was 19? cud have been any1 in the county, cos he has a problem wit everyone.if ther were no shrtage of refs he wud be tld 2 sling his hook.
like p hughes, only with a bit of speed in him

[qub la la la]

Is this the same guy who is not allowed to do any Cross games??I know Crossmaglen told the county board that if a certain ref turned up to do their game that they will refuse to play, I'm not 100% sure who the ref is but I'd put money on it that its that clown

i said before on the board that a few weeks ago a cross underage team left the field when he turned up to referee the game. not 100% as to the details though.

[qub la la la]

Are tir na nog any good? Any chance theyll give those smug cruppen louts a hammering?

sorry dnr but dont see how cruppen have been smug. we are a division 2 club that havent had the start to the year we had hoped with a good group of young lads coming through and hopefully we'll get back to playing division 1 football in the near future. where's this smugness coming from??

[diesel-smuggler]

anyone from dromintee have some cheek in calling any other teams smug! they got to a few county finals recently and all of a sudden they are the best things since sliced bread!

[Yes I Would]

Hughes is a different character completely who applies the rules literally to the letter of the law, which is fair enough. Not alot of common sense with him but he is consistent, in my experience with him be it good or bad for both teams!
That other guy gives me the shits, and there is definetly a badness in him which is so obvious and consistent that it beggars belief!!
Guess its  a control thing with him, but my god do players suffer who are bursting their balls in training, to play to win, for this guys actions to so blatantly influence games and results.
Rant over!!

[Armagh Exile]

Kirwan slams abuse of referees
08 May 2008
Last year's All-Ireland hurling final referee Diarmuid Kirwan has blasted players and officials for their "over the top" criticism and abuse of referees.

The Cork whistler, whose father Gerry, from Ballyskenagh in Offaly, took charge of the 1988 All-Ireland decider between Galway and Tipperary, believes certain players show a lack of respect for the authority of the referee.

"Even at inter-county level you have certain players who have this disrespect for referees," he said.

"You wonder sometimes that if these fellas led by example, it would be a lot easier for the referees."

Kirwan himself has felt the full force of over-zealous players and officials as a referee, having received physical abuse.

"On one occasion, I was physically abused leaving the field after a championship game," he added.

"It was a minor assault - unfortunately the problems now with what is happening in the GAA, you might have a lot of local derby championship matches."

www.hoganstand.com

[Yes I Would]

I agree entirely, and i think rugby is a fine example where refs are treated with utmost respect! If we could get anywhere near close to this level will be a fine day for the gaa.
However, this respect needs to be 2 way, and a referee (and majority do) need to have respect for what the players are doing, in terms of training, preperation etc.
Honest mistakes will always be made by players and refs and this is the nature of any team sport!Players need to accept this, as do referees.
My problem is when a referee sees his position as something more central to what he is there to do, and shouldnt be there to pass snide remarks to players during the course of a game, or deliberately attempt to influence a games result, or upon whos word can affect a young players season.
Its a common sense thing and in my experience the best ref are the ones who call it as they see it and arent blowing a whistle and brandishing a yellow card every time they hear a swear word uttered on the field. Its a fast physical game and when players deliberately cross the line they should be punished.