Quinn Insurance in Administration

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StPatsAbu

So why could the guy not be named who was convicted and was responsible for most of the torture?

The Wedger

Quote from: StPatsAbu on November 09, 2021, 08:57:35 AM
So why could the guy not be named who was convicted and was responsible for most of the torture?

I presume he is going to stand trial for other offences and if he was named his legal team could claim that he will be unable to get a fair trial.


rrhf

or perhaps some form of witness protection scheme...

Rossfan

Hopefully those 3 don't see freedom for many a day.
But the organ grinder us still out there.....
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

StPatsAbu

Quote from: Rossfan on November 09, 2021, 12:32:56 PM
Hopefully those 3 don't see freedom for many a day.
But the organ grinder us still out there.....

So you think Ray Manzarek is involved in all this too then?

Main Street

Quote from: Itchy on March 19, 2021, 02:59:20 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 19, 2021, 02:52:16 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 19, 2021, 02:50:05 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 19, 2021, 02:48:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 19, 2021, 02:44:37 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40247582.html

Stiff enough sentence.

Has everything settled down after your man took a heart attack and died? A lot of them ATM robberies have settled as well....

The arrest of the paymaster is imminent

Who is the paymaster? Quinn?
Do you think Cyril McGuinness was just acting off his own initiative?

I don't know and am genuinely interested.

About 100 pages ago I addressed all that. But basically..

- Lunney and crew were happy to gain from the work of dissident and criminals who were attacking previous owners
- Previous owners left as a result and Lunney group came in. Attacks stopped
- Quinn came into the board and then got booted out
- Some talk of Lunneys gang selling out sections to competition (Quinn would never have done this)
- Attacks restart, Lunney threatened and eventually kipnapped and assaulted.

So whether the dissidents/criminals returned to be seen to protect local jobs and to garner support in the area at a time when they were trying to rebuild or whether others unknown were encouraging them is my best bet. I dont think Sean Quinn was involved in that is my opinion, not sure what his motive would be cos either way he can never get his company back.
Somehow I have strong misgivings about the criminal group having benign motives. If Quinn was not involved, then my guess is extortion was the motive behind the overtly violent harassment. These nasty criminal characters are out to serve themselves.

johnnycool

Quote from: Main Street on November 09, 2021, 09:39:58 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 19, 2021, 02:59:20 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 19, 2021, 02:52:16 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 19, 2021, 02:50:05 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 19, 2021, 02:48:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 19, 2021, 02:44:37 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40247582.html

Stiff enough sentence.

Has everything settled down after your man took a heart attack and died? A lot of them ATM robberies have settled as well....

The arrest of the paymaster is imminent

Who is the paymaster? Quinn?
Do you think Cyril McGuinness was just acting off his own initiative?

I don't know and am genuinely interested.

About 100 pages ago I addressed all that. But basically..

- Lunney and crew were happy to gain from the work of dissident and criminals who were attacking previous owners
- Previous owners left as a result and Lunney group came in. Attacks stopped
- Quinn came into the board and then got booted out
- Some talk of Lunneys gang selling out sections to competition (Quinn would never have done this)
- Attacks restart, Lunney threatened and eventually kipnapped and assaulted.

So whether the dissidents/criminals returned to be seen to protect local jobs and to garner support in the area at a time when they were trying to rebuild or whether others unknown were encouraging them is my best bet. I dont think Sean Quinn was involved in that is my opinion, not sure what his motive would be cos either way he can never get his company back.
Somehow I have strong misgivings about the criminal group having benign motives. If Quinn was not involved, then my guess is extortion was the motive behind the overtly violent harassment. These nasty criminal characters are out to serve themselves.

Was there ever a request for a ransom or money made to Lunney and Co?

Main Street

Quote from: johnnycool on November 10, 2021, 08:47:54 AM
Quote from: Main Street on November 09, 2021, 09:39:58 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 19, 2021, 02:59:20 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 19, 2021, 02:52:16 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 19, 2021, 02:50:05 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 19, 2021, 02:48:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 19, 2021, 02:44:37 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40247582.html

Stiff enough sentence.

Has everything settled down after your man took a heart attack and died? A lot of them ATM robberies have settled as well....

The arrest of the paymaster is imminent

Who is the paymaster? Quinn?
Do you think Cyril McGuinness was just acting off his own initiative?

I don't know and am genuinely interested.

About 100 pages ago I addressed all that. But basically..

- Lunney and crew were happy to gain from the work of dissident and criminals who were attacking previous owners
- Previous owners left as a result and Lunney group came in. Attacks stopped
- Quinn came into the board and then got booted out
- Some talk of Lunneys gang selling out sections to competition (Quinn would never have done this)
- Attacks restart, Lunney threatened and eventually kipnapped and assaulted.

So whether the dissidents/criminals returned to be seen to protect local jobs and to garner support in the area at a time when they were trying to rebuild or whether others unknown were encouraging them is my best bet. I dont think Sean Quinn was involved in that is my opinion, not sure what his motive would be cos either way he can never get his company back.
Somehow I have strong misgivings about the criminal group having benign motives. If Quinn was not involved, then my guess is extortion was the motive behind the overtly violent harassment. These nasty criminal characters are out to serve themselves.

Was there ever a request for a ransom or money made to Lunney and Co?
Lunney wasn't kidnapped per se. just taken, tortured and then released, that was a message/threat not a kidnapping, therefore no ransom request. that and the history of the violent campaign suggests to me that the gang were attempting to extort cash from Quinn Ins.

johnnycool

Quote from: Main Street on November 10, 2021, 11:01:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 10, 2021, 08:47:54 AM
Quote from: Main Street on November 09, 2021, 09:39:58 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 19, 2021, 02:59:20 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 19, 2021, 02:52:16 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 19, 2021, 02:50:05 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 19, 2021, 02:48:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on March 19, 2021, 02:44:37 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40247582.html

Stiff enough sentence.

Has everything settled down after your man took a heart attack and died? A lot of them ATM robberies have settled as well....

The arrest of the paymaster is imminent

Who is the paymaster? Quinn?
Do you think Cyril McGuinness was just acting off his own initiative?

I don't know and am genuinely interested.

About 100 pages ago I addressed all that. But basically..

- Lunney and crew were happy to gain from the work of dissident and criminals who were attacking previous owners
- Previous owners left as a result and Lunney group came in. Attacks stopped
- Quinn came into the board and then got booted out
- Some talk of Lunneys gang selling out sections to competition (Quinn would never have done this)
- Attacks restart, Lunney threatened and eventually kipnapped and assaulted.

So whether the dissidents/criminals returned to be seen to protect local jobs and to garner support in the area at a time when they were trying to rebuild or whether others unknown were encouraging them is my best bet. I dont think Sean Quinn was involved in that is my opinion, not sure what his motive would be cos either way he can never get his company back.
Somehow I have strong misgivings about the criminal group having benign motives. If Quinn was not involved, then my guess is extortion was the motive behind the overtly violent harassment. These nasty criminal characters are out to serve themselves.

Was there ever a request for a ransom or money made to Lunney and Co?
Lunney wasn't kidnapped per se. just taken, tortured and then released, that was a message/threat not a kidnapping, therefore no ransom request. that and the history of the violent campaign suggests to me that the gang were attempting to extort cash from Quinn Ins.

Hardly any point torturing him, burning equipment and the likes unless you actually ask for the cash.

Seems strange not even asking for any money unless they wanted something else...

quit yo jibbajabba

Did they not want him to step down and stop with ongoing legal action both sides of the border?

Rossfan

30, 25 and 15 year sentences for the 3 scumbags.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Newbridge Exile

Quote from: Rossfan on December 20, 2021, 12:18:52 PM
30, 25 and 15 year sentences for the 3 scumbags.
What is the story with one of them not being able to named ?

Tyrdub

Quote from: Newbridge Exile on December 20, 2021, 01:33:15 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 20, 2021, 12:18:52 PM
30, 25 and 15 year sentences for the 3 scumbags.
What is the story with one of them not being able to named ?

Was thinking that myself, was he an informer? Then why is his sentence more severe, don't get it personally

Cavan19

Quote from: Tyrdub on December 20, 2021, 01:37:30 PM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on December 20, 2021, 01:33:15 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 20, 2021, 12:18:52 PM
30, 25 and 15 year sentences for the 3 scumbags.
What is the story with one of them not being able to named ?

Was thinking that myself, was he an informer? Then why is his sentence more severe, don't get it personally

He has a another court case pending.

Tyrdub

Quote from: Cavan19 on December 20, 2021, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: Tyrdub on December 20, 2021, 01:37:30 PM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on December 20, 2021, 01:33:15 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 20, 2021, 12:18:52 PM
30, 25 and 15 year sentences for the 3 scumbags.
What is the story with one of them not being able to named ?

Was thinking that myself, was he an informer? Then why is his sentence more severe, don't get it personally

He has a another court case pending.

Ah I see, thanks for the info