Starts in 4 days and not a word here about it :-\ Does anybody care?
Sligo to bate London by 5 points
NY v Laythrum -loads of people expecting NY to get their first ever win here.
CC Secretary and the 5 County Treasurers feverishly praying in Knock that this doesn't happen.
Jamie Clarke, Tom Cunniffe, Neil Collins supposed to be on NY team.
Ros will win it.
Two championship newcomers in Sligo's starting 15
Tourlestrane attacker Liam Gaughan and St Mary's defender Luke Nicholson will make their championship debuts in Sunday's Connacht quarter-final against London in Ruislip.
Nicholson starts at full-back, flanked by the experienced Ross Donovan and Charlie Harrison, while Gaughan and Kyle Cawley will play off Adrian Marren in the full-forward line.
Captain Kevin McDonnell will start in midfield alongside Niall Murphy, while Cian Breheny starts at number 11, with Cathal Henry and Pat Hughes also on the 40.
The half-back line is Gerard O'Kelly-Lynch, Adrian McIntyre and Neil Ewing, with the likes of Stephen Coen, Darragh Cummins, Paddy O'Connor and Eoin McHugh set to be among the substitutes.
Aiden Devaney starts in goal.
Sligo boss Cathal Corey is facing into his first intercounty championship match, and says he is looking forward to getting going...
Sligo full-forward Adrian Marren says that the emergence of a number of young players this season has freshened everything up...
SLIGO TEAM:
Aiden Devaney
Ross Donavan
Luke Nicholson
Charlie Harrison
Gerard O'Kelly-Lynch
Adrian McIntyre
Neil Ewing
Kevin McDonnell (capt)
Niall Murphy
Cathal Henry
Cian Breheny
Pat Hughes
Liam Gaughan
Adrian Marren
Kyle Cawley
Allen Gaels Goalkeeper Diarmuid McKeirnan, Mohill midfielder Domhnall Flynn and Gortlettragh forward Jack Heslin will all make their championship debuts in Leitrim's Connacht quarter-final against New York on Sunday.
Ten years after making his intercounty debut in the Bronx, Emlyn Mulligan has been named to start at centre-forward following his successful return from a cruciate knee injury, while captain Donal Wrynn starts at centre-back.
Glencar/Manorhamilton's Paddy Maguire is named in the full-back line, with clubmate James Rooney set to start at wing-back.
Mohill pair Shane Quinn and Oisin Madden, and St Mary's Michael McWeeney complete the defence.
Aughawillan's Mark Plunkett partners Flynn in midfield, while Ryan O'Rourke starts alongside Heslin and Mulligan in the half-forward line.
Melvin Gaels' Darragh Rooney starts in the full-forward line alongside Keith Beirne and Brendan Gallagher.
Ronan Kennedy is among the replacements, with Manorhamilton keeper Gary Hickey, and Melvin Gaels forward Cillian McGloin also in the squad.
Selector Seamus Quinn says the return to action of Mulligan, Kennedy and Maguire towards the end of the league was a big boost...
1Diarmuid McKiernan Gaeil na hAilne
2Paddy Maguire Naomh Bríde Baile Átha Cliath
3Micheal McWeeney Naomh Muire Cill Tochairt
4Oisín Madden Maothail
5James Rooney Gleann an Chairthe/Cluainín
6Donal Wrynn (c)Naomh Caillin, Fíonach
7Shane Quinn Maothail
8Mark Plunkett Achadh an Mhuilinn
9Domhnaill Flynn Maothail
10Jack Heslin Gort Leitreach
11Emlyn Mulligan Gaeil na Meilge
12Ryan O Rourke Naomh Caillin, Fíonach
13Darragh Rooney Gaeil na Meilge
14Keith Beirne Maothail
15Brendan Gallagher Na Sairséalaigh Leamhcáin BAC
16Gary Hickey Gleann an Chairthe/Cluainín
17Noel Plunkett Achadh an Mhuilinn
18Alan Armstrong Maothail
19Colm Moreton Gaeil Liatroma
20Dean McGovern Seán Ó hEislin, Béal an Átha Móir
21Aidan Flynn Gaeil Liatroma
22Eoin Ward Carraig Álainn
23Conor Gaffney Droim Óir Bhéalaigh
24Ronan Kennedy Maothail
25Keith Keegan Maothail
26James Mitchell Maothail
27Damien Moran Barr na Cúile
28Nicholas McWeeney Naomh Muire Cill Tochairt
29Caillian McGloin Gaeil na Meilge
30Matthew Murphy Seán Ó hEislin, Béal an Átha Móir
Keelan Cawley,Paddy O'Connor out injured?
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 03, 2018, 01:33:54 PM
Keelan Cawley,Paddy O'Connor out injured?
Cawley is yes, O'Connor on the bench. Musn't be 100% as he'd surely be starting otherwise.
One of the Leitrim players is working on same site as myself this last while, a really nice buck . I really hope they win , I'll be rooting for them anyway . Hon Leitrim
Good to see Emlyn Mulligan back starting after what was his 3rd ACL injury? Paddy Maguire has been playing his club football in Dublin the last number of years i presume he will be given the tough task of keeping tabs on Jamie Clarke.
I think New York will Periscope this match if previous games are any indication. It will be worth a watch. Feels like an old school championship match with both teams' seasons riding on this one game.
Mayo man Tom Cunniffe id captain for New York I think.
There'll be a few periscope streams of the match I'd say
New York team for Sunday.
Vinny Cadden (Sligo)
Neil Collins (Roscommon)
Donal Ward (Roscommon)
Colin Keane
Enda Williams (Longford)
Tom Cunniffe (Mayo)
Matthew Queenan
David Culhane (Kerry)
Shane Hogan (a native New Yorker)
Tony Donnelly
Jamie Clarke (Armagh)
Luke Kelly (Offaly)
Kevin O'Grady (Wexford)
Dalton McDonagh (Meath)
David Freeman.
Any idea what county Freeman,Donnelly,Queenan and Keane come from?
Queenan is a common name in Sligo.
Matthew Queenan (Mayo) Colin Keane (Sligo) David Freeman (Monaghan) Tony Donnelly (Armagh)
The bench
16. Kieran Fitzgibbons (Kerry)
17. John Collins (Roscommon)
18. Mike Creegan (New York)
19. Kevin Connolly (Fermanagh)
20. Michael Boyle (Galway)
21. Daniel McKenna (Monaghan)
22. Aaron Cunningham (Armagh)
23. Paddy Boyle (Donegal)
24. Keith Scally (Westmeath)
25. JJ Matthews (Longford)
26. Conor Connolly (Armagh)
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 04, 2018, 02:04:39 PM
New York team for Sunday.
Vinny Cadden (Sligo)
Neil Collins (Roscommon)
Donal Ward (Roscommon)
Colin Keane
Enda Williams (Longford)
Tom Cunniffe (Mayo)
Matthew Queenan
David Culhane (Kerry)
Shane Hogan (a native New Yorker)
Tony Donnelly
Jamie Clarke (Armagh)
Luke Kelly (Offaly)
Kevin O'Grady (Wexford)
Dalton McDonagh (Meath)
David Freeman.
Any idea what county Freeman,Donnelly,Queenan and Keane come from?
David Freeman is a Clones man, Monaghan.
London team
1 Gavin McEvoy – Tir Chonaill Gaels
2 Philip Butler – Tir Chonaill Gaels
3 Ciaran Dunne – Garryowen
4 Conor O'Neill – Kingdom Kerry Gaels
5 Michael Walsh – Fulham Irish
6 Marcus Mangan – Kingdom Kerry Gaels
7 Patrick Begley – St Kieranans
8 Anthony McDermott – Tir Chonaill Gaels
9 Mark Gottsche – Tir Chonaill Gaels
10 Eoin Murray – Tir Chonaill Gaels
11 Liam Gavaghan – Tir Chonaill Gaels
12 Thomas Waters – St Kieranans
13 Ryan Elliott – Tir Chonaill Gaels
14 Adrian Moyles – St Kieranans
15Killian Butler – Tir Chonaill Gaels
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 04, 2018, 03:53:07 PM
Matthew Queenan (Mayo) Colin Keane (Sligo) David Freeman (Monaghan) Tony Donnelly (Armagh)
The bench
16. Kieran Fitzgibbons (Kerry)
17. John Collins (Roscommon)
18. Mike Creegan (New York)
19. Kevin Connolly (Fermanagh)
20. Michael Boyle (Galway)
21. Daniel McKenna (Monaghan)
22. Aaron Cunningham (Armagh)
23. Paddy Boyle (Donegal)
24. Keith Scally (Westmeath)
25. JJ Matthews (Longford)
26. Conor Connolly (Armagh)
Creegan is hardly NY born?
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 04, 2018, 05:10:29 PM
London team
1 Gavin McEvoy – Tir Chonaill Gaels
2 Philip Butler – Tir Chonaill Gaels
3 Ciaran Dunne – Garryowen
4 Conor O'Neill – Kingdom Kerry Gaels
5 Michael Walsh – Fulham Irish
6 Marcus Mangan – Kingdom Kerry Gaels
7 Patrick Begley – St Kieranans
8 Anthony McDermott – Tir Chonaill Gaels
9 Mark Gottsche – Tir Chonaill Gaels
10 Eoin Murray – Tir Chonaill Gaels
11 Liam Gavaghan – Tir Chonaill Gaels
12 Thomas Waters – St Kieranans
13 Ryan Elliott – Tir Chonaill Gaels
14 Adrian Moyles – St Kieranans
15Killian Butler – Tir Chonaill Gaels
Liam Gavigans father is from Aclare.
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 04, 2018, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 04, 2018, 05:10:29 PM
London team
1 Gavin McEvoy – Tir Chonaill Gaels
2 Philip Butler – Tir Chonaill Gaels
3 Ciaran Dunne – Garryowen
4 Conor O'Neill – Kingdom Kerry Gaels
5 Michael Walsh – Fulham Irish
6 Marcus Mangan – Kingdom Kerry Gaels
7 Patrick Begley – St Kieranans
8 Anthony McDermott – Tir Chonaill Gaels
9 Mark Gottsche – Tir Chonaill Gaels
10 Eoin Murray – Tir Chonaill Gaels
11 Liam Gavaghan – Tir Chonaill Gaels
12 Thomas Waters – St Kieranans
13 Ryan Elliott – Tir Chonaill Gaels
14 Adrian Moyles – St Kieranans
15Killian Butler – Tir Chonaill Gaels
Liam Gavigans father is from Aclare.
Both parents from Sligo I heard?
New York 11/8, Leitrim 4/5, 15/2 the draw.
A long time from NY went into a match at those odds. Who would be Leitrim's man for marking Clarke?
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 04, 2018, 02:04:39 PM
New York team for Sunday.
Vinny Cadden (Sligo)
Neil Collins (Roscommon)
Donal Ward (Roscommon)
Colin Keane
Enda Williams (Longford)
Tom Cunniffe (Mayo)
Matthew Queenan
David Culhane (Kerry)
Shane Hogan (a native New Yorker)
Tony Donnelly
Jamie Clarke (Armagh)
Luke Kelly (Offaly)
Kevin O'Grady (Wexford)
Dalton McDonagh (Meath)
David Freeman.
Any idea what county Freeman,Donnelly,Queenan and Keane come from?
Enda Williams is getting around. Played with Longford switched to Letrim.Back to Longford now New York .
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 04, 2018, 05:10:29 PM
London team
1 Gavin McEvoy – Tir Chonaill Gaels
2 Philip Butler – Tir Chonaill Gaels
3 Ciaran Dunne – Garryowen
4 Conor O'Neill – Kingdom Kerry Gaels
5 Michael Walsh – Fulham Irish
6 Marcus Mangan – Kingdom Kerry Gaels
7 Patrick Begley – St Kieranans
8 Anthony McDermott – Tir Chonaill Gaels
9 Mark Gottsche – Tir Chonaill Gaels
10 Eoin Murray – Tir Chonaill Gaels
11 Liam Gavaghan – Tir Chonaill Gaels
12 Thomas Waters – St Kieranans
13 Ryan Elliott – Tir Chonaill Gaels
14 Adrian Moyles – St Kieranans
15Killian Butler – Tir Chonaill Gaels
2 Dublin lads playing for London.Ciaran Dunne and Eoin Murray from St Marys Saggart.
Sligo 1-7 to 0-2 , marren with a penalty
Half time London 1-3 Sligo 1-10.
No repeat of the 2013 shock win in Ruislip instead a very comfortable win for Sligo today. FT London 1-11 Sligo 1-21
Is the NY/Leitrim game streamed or aired anywhere?
Will there be extensive coverage on TSG later? ???
Sligo 1-21 London 1-11, would of taken that scoreline before the game, good start meant we could all relax to a certain extent. London did get to 4pts a few times and should of had a penalty in first half but credit to our players we kept them at arms length throughout and picked it up when needed. London were poor though.
2 Changes at the throw were Eoin McHugh and Paddy O Connor started instead of nicholson and breheny.
I like that we brought on Carrabine and Breheny when London were tiring and to close the game out.
We didnt seem to pick up any injuries either which is great.
We played Galway last at Home in 2014 and Mayo Away last year so we are away if Galway win and at Home if Mayo win.
All I would say is about that Game on June 3rd is last year, Sligo had Mayo pegged back 1-10 to 10 and we had a chance of goal ourselves with 10 mins to go, with a bit more belief could of caught them, (we held back a little when it was there for us), and the influx of youngsters this year will add to the belief, they're used to beating mayo/galway underage at schools and county level. Both Mayo or Galway will have one eye on the final 2 weeks later. Look how Roscommon did against Galway in the Connacht final, a good gameplan built around midfield possession destroyed Galway.
For me this year the minimum goals were to stay up in Div3 and beat London, im delighted we achieved that, credit to the players. Anything now is now bonus territory for me and will interesting to see how we get on the next day.
Quote from: GrandMasterFlash on May 06, 2018, 05:12:54 PM
Is the NY/Leitrim game streamed or aired anywhere?
Will there be extensive coverage on TSG later? ???
think rte have commentary of it
Black Card Sligonian.
It's would HAVE, should HAVE, Might HAVE.
Sounded like a routine enough win.
I presume after a trip to London going to Salthill is not ye're first choice.
Has anyone a link for a radio stream of the NY game?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on May 06, 2018, 07:10:55 PM
Has anyone a link for a radio stream of the NY game?
https://www.rte.ie/radio/utils/radioplayer/rteradioweb.html#!rii=b9_-2_71_06-05-2018_
It's on ocean fm website or app
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on May 06, 2018, 07:10:55 PM
Has anyone a link for a radio stream of the NY game?
shannonside if you prefer
https://media.shannonside.ie/mediamanager/embed/player/#live
Salthill will be a tough assignment for Sligo but the game will stand to them going into the qualifiers. How many qualifiers would sligo have to win to reach super 8 if Galway beat them
goal new york...1-0 to 0-1 up
Quote from: larryin89 on May 06, 2018, 07:17:38 PM
Salthill will be a tough assignment for Sligo but the game will stand to them going into the qualifiers. How many qualifiers would sligo have to win to reach super 8 if Galway beat them
That type of rubbish post does you no favours Lar to be fair
New York sounds like they are battering Leitrim
sounds like waves and waves of new york attacks
leitrim seem to have gotten to grips with things
1-4 to 0-4
Quote from: tippabu on May 06, 2018, 07:35:11 PM
sounds like waves and waves of new york attacks
It'll take more than a fast start to win this.
Leitrim within two now.
New York 1-5 Leitrim 0-7 latest
Leitrim ahead 0-9 to 1-5.
Did New York burn up all of their energy in the first ten minutes? Leitrim 0-8 New York 0-1 in the last 25 mins of that half.
Up Leitrim.
New York 1-8 Leitrim 0-10 40 mins played.
12 to 1-9.57 gone.
NY take the lead 8 mins left
Another point for NY .
Level again New York 1-11 Leitrim 0-14
New York 1-12 Leitrim 0-15 FT
Will there be extra-time?
Maybe Leitrim will have to come back next week
Quote from: BennyCake on May 06, 2018, 08:58:06 PM
Maybe Leitrim will have to come back next week
Because that's definitely how replays work.
Quote from: Asal Mor on May 06, 2018, 08:54:31 PM
Will there be extra-time?
Saw somewhere there was to be.
Quote from: Syferus on May 06, 2018, 09:01:28 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 06, 2018, 08:58:06 PM
Maybe Leitrim will have to come back next week
Because that's definitely how replays work.
Well, yeah :o
Quote from: BennyCake on May 06, 2018, 09:05:42 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 06, 2018, 09:01:28 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 06, 2018, 08:58:06 PM
Maybe Leitrim will have to come back next week
Because that's definitely how replays work.
Well, yeah :o
According to RTE if it is a draw after 10m each way there will be a Replay on Carrick on Shannon next week.
Quote from: LeoMc on May 06, 2018, 09:09:51 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 06, 2018, 09:05:42 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 06, 2018, 09:01:28 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 06, 2018, 08:58:06 PM
Maybe Leitrim will have to come back next week
Because that's definitely how replays work.
Well, yeah :o
According to RTE if it is a draw after 10m each way there will be a Replay on Carrick on Shannon next week.
Would be cheaper to pay for Leitrimto stay on for the week and reimburse the players for loss in wages.
Some battle of the Bronx
Quote from: BennyCake on May 06, 2018, 09:11:36 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on May 06, 2018, 09:09:51 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 06, 2018, 09:05:42 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 06, 2018, 09:01:28 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 06, 2018, 08:58:06 PM
Maybe Leitrim will have to come back next week
Because that's definitely how replays work.
Well, yeah :o
According to RTE if it is a draw after 10m each way there will be a Replay on Carrick on Shannon next week.
Would be cheaper to pay for Leitrimto stay on for the week and reimburse the players for loss in wages.
No it wouldn't.
NY 1-14 LM 0-15 Half time in extra time.
Quote from: Syferus on May 06, 2018, 09:15:00 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 06, 2018, 09:11:36 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on May 06, 2018, 09:09:51 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 06, 2018, 09:05:42 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 06, 2018, 09:01:28 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 06, 2018, 08:58:06 PM
Maybe Leitrim will have to come back next week
Because that's definitely how replays work.
Well, yeah :o
According to RTE if it is a draw after 10m each way there will be a Replay on Carrick on Shannon next week.
Would be cheaper to pay for Leitrimto stay on for the week and reimburse the players for loss in wages.
No it wouldn't.
Yes it would.
Leitrim look doomed. Need a goal against United Counties!
Leitrim kicking some amount of wides in extra time but still in the game. 4 mins to play New York 1-15 Leitrim 0-17
Level!
Lazarus Leitrim
Leitrim 0-19 NY 1-15 ft.
Some match Leitrim win at the death 0-19 to 1-15
Fair fucks to Leitrim, delighted for them
Well done Leitrim, delighted for them.
The mercenaries put in their rightful place.
Well done Leitrim. Very happy with that one. See ye in Pairc Sean..
Oh f*** off Leitrim
Great to see an Irish team win.
Jamie Clark and Aaron Cunningham were playing for New York
Some drama in normal time and extra time did any side deserve to lose? pity it wasn't screened live some where.
Billy Joel, Hilary Clinton, King Kong, John McClane, Groucho Marx, Sammy Davis Jr, Donald Trump... can you hear me Donald Trump!
Your boys took a hell of a beating!
Your boys took a hell of a beating!
Quote from: dec on May 06, 2018, 10:00:12 PM
Jamie Clark and Aaron Cunningham were playing for New York
More Cross' men for New York than Armagh.
Quote from: Syferus on May 06, 2018, 09:35:27 PM
The mercenaries put in their rightful place.
Well done Leitrim. Very happy with that one. See ye in Pairc Sean..
Who are the mercenaries ....????
3 of our county men who chose to emigrate like all others the N.Y. team
Quote from: Jinxy on May 06, 2018, 10:26:09 PM
Billy Joel, Hilary Clinton, King Kong, John McClane, Groucho Marx, Sammy Davis Jr, Donald Trump... can you hear me Donald Trump!
Your boys took a hell of a beating!
Your boys took a hell of a beating!
Was King Kong awarded American citizenship then? Don't remember seeing that in the film.
Real David v goliath stuff with the 32,000 population of leitrim beat 8.5m New Yorkers. Stuff dreams are made off.
Quote from: BennyCake on May 06, 2018, 10:51:02 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 06, 2018, 10:26:09 PM
Billy Joel, Hilary Clinton, King Kong, John McClane, Groucho Marx, Sammy Davis Jr, Donald Trump... can you hear me Donald Trump!
Your boys took a hell of a beating!
Your boys took a hell of a beating!
Was King Kong awarded American citizenship then? Don't remember seeing that in the film.
It was posthumous.
Quote from: Syferus on May 06, 2018, 09:35:27 PM
The mercenaries put in their rightful place.
Well done Leitrim. Very happy with that one. See ye in Pairc Sean..
?? Leitrim should be embarrassed with that effort. New York by far the better team on the day. Lucky Leitrim
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on May 07, 2018, 12:15:51 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 06, 2018, 09:35:27 PM
The mercenaries put in their rightful place.
Well done Leitrim. Very happy with that one. See ye in Pairc Sean..
?? Leitrim should be embarrassed with that effort. New York by far the better team on the day. Lucky Leitrim
You'd want to check the scoreline lad. A very inexperienced Leitrim team went to New York and beat a team favoured to beat them. Only someone talking out of their arse with no knowledge of Leitrim would say they should be embarrassed after that.
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on May 07, 2018, 12:15:51 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 06, 2018, 09:35:27 PM
The mercenaries put in their rightful place.
Well done Leitrim. Very happy with that one. See ye in Pairc Sean..
?? Leitrim should be embarrassed with that effort. New York by far the better team on the day. Lucky Leitrim
New York were only by far the better team for the first 10 mins of the 1st half of normal time. Outscored 0-8 to 0-1 then in the first half. 2nd half of normal time was fairly even as it 0-7 to 0-6 and New York were lucky to lead at half time in extra because Leitrim kicked a number of wides.
The New York starting team had probably more established county seniors than leitrim had and Leitrim lets not forget are a Division 4 side that were tipped by many to lose that game. That was a very gutsy win rather than a lucky win.
New york has played one game as a team before tonight! Leitrim was the worst side i have seen in all my years here.
Roscommon who played their league football in Division one in 2016 and only beating New York by one point was embarrassing. Leitrim a Division four side having a hard fought win against what was meant to be New Yorks strongest ever side on paper was hardly embarrassing.
Maybe i was expecting to much from Leitrim! Very poor side.
We're all off to Carrick on the 26th of May.
I hear the game us at the daft time of 5 30 to accommodate some TV soccery sh1te!!!
What's wrong with having it on a Sunday??
By the way what did NY ever do to annoy our eejit?
Quote from: Syferus on May 07, 2018, 12:28:33 AM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on May 07, 2018, 12:15:51 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 06, 2018, 09:35:27 PM
The mercenaries put in their rightful place.
Well done Leitrim. Very happy with that one. See ye in Pairc Sean..
?? Leitrim should be embarrassed with that effort. New York by far the better team on the day. Lucky Leitrim
You'd want to check the scoreline lad. A very inexperienced Leitrim team went to New York and beat a team favoured to beat them. Only someone talking out of their arse with no knowledge of Leitrim would say they should be embarrassed after that.
Leitrim were 4/5 favourites. NY 11/8
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 06, 2018, 06:29:53 PM
Sligo 1-21 London 1-11, would of taken that scoreline before the game, good start meant we could all relax to a certain extent. London did get to 4pts a few times and should of had a penalty in first half but credit to our players we kept them at arms length throughout and picked it up when needed. London were poor though.
2 Changes at the throw were Eoin McHugh and Paddy O Connor started instead of nicholson and breheny.
I like that we brought on Carrabine and Breheny when London were tiring and to close the game out.
We didnt seem to pick up any injuries either which is great.
We played Galway last at Home in 2014 and Mayo Away last year so we are away if Galway win and at Home if Mayo win.
All I would say is about that Game on June 3rd is last year, Sligo had Mayo pegged back 1-10 to 10 and we had a chance of goal ourselves with 10 mins to go, with a bit more belief could of caught them, (we held back a little when it was there for us), and the influx of youngsters this year will add to the belief, they're used to beating mayo/galway underage at schools and county level. Both Mayo or Galway will have one eye on the final 2 weeks later. Look how Roscommon did against Galway in the Connacht final, a good gameplan built around midfield possession destroyed Galway.
For me this year the minimum goals were to stay up in Div3 and beat London, im delighted we achieved that, credit to the players. Anything now is now bonus territory for me and will interesting to see how we get on the next day.
Mission accomplished. The demons of 2013 have been banished. I've said this before, I think the future is bright, we have a great blend of youth and experience and definitely a team on the rise. I don't expect us to beat Galway or Mayo but I don't expect a hammering either, good job by Corey and crew, keep up the good work. As Sligonian has said, we have achieved 2 goals so far, staying in div 3 and London revenge.... Stay tuned.........
Quote from: Rossfan on May 07, 2018, 10:00:26 AM
We're all off to Carrick on the 26th of May.
I hear the game us at the daft time of 5 30 to accommodate some TV soccery sh1te!!!
What's wrong with having it on a Sunday??
By the way what did NY ever do to annoy our eejit?
Rossfan, Thank you.
The village idiot is alive and well.
To call people who had to emigrate to find work mercenaries just beggars belief, even for him.
I wonder what the Thousands of genuine Roscommon GAA folk who left Ireland over the past fifty years to settle in NY would think of that comment.
Delighted for Leitrim. Anyone calling on them to be embarrassed should do bit of research into the struggles a county like Leitrim has to hold onto it's young people.
Now for them to tear into the mighty Rossies.
Now onto the football.
I was at the game, Gaelic park was absolutely packed. It truly is a great day for, Irish immigrants and Irish-American gaelic football supporters to catch up with each other at least once a year.
NY were the better team over the hour and a half, their inexperience and lack of match practice cost them when they went three up with seven minutes to go. Some of their players got caught in possession during that period and coughed it up resulting in scores for Leitrim.
NY had a chance to go two up with less than a minute to go in extra time, kicked it wide.
Leitrim equalized from the kick out and then scored from NY's kickout. NY had a very good last chance 30-35 yards out little to the right of goals kicked wide from play, end of game.
For a team that plays two or three competitive games in a year and that logistically is challenged with getting players to train due to "real" work schedules, and proximity, it was a magnificent effort.
When NY went three up and won the next kick-out, I said to myself "that's is, history will be made today", next thought was firstly one of feeling bad for all the Leitrim people who live in NY, who have put a lot of effort into keeping that club alive in NY for past 50 years, it would hurt them no end. Second thought was how negative this would be for the Leitrim team itself, it would probably put them back 3-5 years.
Reflecting back today, maybe, just maybe it would take something like a NY win to happen, to shake up the GAA and the provincial councils to shit or get of the pot and acknowledge that;
1. Inter-county football is not on a level playing field. The GAA better pump money into coaching every U8 to U18 footballer in all counties in Div 3 and Div 4, and they better do it immediately.
2. Stop being delusional that teams in Div 3 and Div 4 have any chance in the current environment of "winning" an All-Ireland.
it should be a tiered competition full-stop.
Reality from yesterday, Leitrim are not a very good team, some of their kicking was just very poor, at least eight maybe more shots were kicked comfortably into the NY's goalkeepers hands. They tried hard, but man for man NY were probably the better team.
I am sure all the negativity/reality from the early stages of this year's championship will be forgotten about come the second week in July, but whoever submits to the view that we should have one size fits all, has an ulterior motive, be it power or financial, that is the Q.
Quote from: joemamas on May 07, 2018, 02:16:34 PM
Stop being delusional that teams in Div 3 and Div 4 have any chance in the current environment of "winning" an All-Ireland.
The idea of Div 3 and Div 4 in the All Ireland championship is not to win but to take part, to have their day in the sun and for some a unexpected run that will leave lasting memories. A 2nd tier or B Championship will not appeal to many of the lesser counties the way the All Ireland championship does.
A tiered competition is already in place in the GAA where Div 3 and Div 4 can improve in time its called the NFL and the GAA top brass should be looking at ways to raise the profile and importance of that competition.
Quote from: joemamas on May 07, 2018, 01:42:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 07, 2018, 10:00:26 AM
We're all off to Carrick on the 26th of May.
I hear the game us at the daft time of 5 30 to accommodate some TV soccery sh1te!!!
What's wrong with having it on a Sunday??
By the way what did NY ever do to annoy our eejit?
Rossfan, Thank you.
The village idiot is alive and well.
To call people who had to emigrate to find work mercenaries just beggars belief, even for him.
I wonder what the Thousands of genuine Roscommon GAA folk who left Ireland over the past fifty years to settle in NY would think of that comment.
It must be fun living in a world where you can make up your own version of reality.
Some of the people on that team
left jobs to go to New York for the summer.. village idiot would be right. Some of ye are too quick to talk about Connacht football without knowing your facts.
You might want to update what your image of what Ireland is from forty years ago because emigration, particularly to a place like NYC, no longer means the same thing it once did. These are not people desperate for a job going over, rather they're mostly college-educated and fully capable of working at home. Going to New York is less an experience akin to a famine ship and more an adventure in that context.
That last sentence sums you up perfectly Syfīn :D :D ;D ;D
Quote from: joemamas on May 07, 2018, 01:42:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 07, 2018, 10:00:26 AM
We're all off to Carrick on the 26th of May.
I hear the game us at the daft time of 5 30 to accommodate some TV soccery sh1te!!!
What's wrong with having it on a Sunday??
By the way what did NY ever do to annoy our eejit?
Rossfan, Thank you.
The village idiot is alive and well.
To call people who had to emigrate to find work mercenaries just beggars belief, even for him.
I wonder what the Thousands of genuine Roscommon GAA folk who left Ireland over the past fifty years to settle in NY would think of that comment.
Much like all the roscommon people on this board they would think it the comment of an imbecile.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 07, 2018, 02:55:16 PM
Quote from: joemamas on May 07, 2018, 02:16:34 PM
Stop being delusional that teams in Div 3 and Div 4 have any chance in the current environment of "winning" an All-Ireland.
The idea of Div 3 and Div 4 in the All Ireland championship is not to win but to take part, to have their day in the sun and for some a unexpected run that will leave lasting memories. A 2nd tier or B Championship will not appeal to many of the lesser counties the way the All Ireland championship does.
A tiered competition is already in place in the GAA where Div 3 and Div 4 can improve in time its called the NFL and the GAA top brass should be looking at ways to raise the profile and importance of that competition.
I don't get that attitude. It's like a club preferring to play in the senior championship and get the shite bet out of them rather than win the junior championship. The later would inspire kids and coaches the former will turn people away. The key is to market such a B competition properly. Any tv deal must include televising X amount if games from the B championship. Final must be in before all Ireland final instead of minors. You telling me players from leitrim and Carlow wouldn't want that
Quote from: Itchy on May 07, 2018, 03:54:12 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 07, 2018, 02:55:16 PM
Quote from: joemamas on May 07, 2018, 02:16:34 PM
Stop being delusional that teams in Div 3 and Div 4 have any chance in the current environment of "winning" an All-Ireland.
The idea of Div 3 and Div 4 in the All Ireland championship is not to win but to take part, to have their day in the sun and for some a unexpected run that will leave lasting memories. A 2nd tier or B Championship will not appeal to many of the lesser counties the way the All Ireland championship does.
A tiered competition is already in place in the GAA where Div 3 and Div 4 can improve in time its called the NFL and the GAA top brass should be looking at ways to raise the profile and importance of that competition.
I don't get that attitude. It's like a club preferring to play in the senior championship and get the shite bet out of them rather than win the junior championship. The later would inspire kids and coaches the former will turn people away. The key is to market such a B competition properly. Any tv deal must include televising X amount if games from the B championship. Final must be in before all Ireland final instead of minors. You telling me players from leitrim and Carlow wouldn't want that
Agree 100% on all points.
Quote from: Itchy on May 07, 2018, 03:54:12 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 07, 2018, 02:55:16 PM
Quote from: joemamas on May 07, 2018, 02:16:34 PM
Stop being delusional that teams in Div 3 and Div 4 have any chance in the current environment of "winning" an All-Ireland.
The idea of Div 3 and Div 4 in the All Ireland championship is not to win but to take part, to have their day in the sun and for some a unexpected run that will leave lasting memories. A 2nd tier or B Championship will not appeal to many of the lesser counties the way the All Ireland championship does.
A tiered competition is already in place in the GAA where Div 3 and Div 4 can improve in time its called the NFL and the GAA top brass should be looking at ways to raise the profile and importance of that competition.
I don't get that attitude. It's like a club preferring to play in the senior championship and get the shite bet out of them rather than win the junior championship. The later would inspire kids and coaches the former will turn people away. The key is to market such a B competition properly. Any tv deal must include televising X amount if games from the B championship. Final must be in before all Ireland final instead of minors. You telling me players from leitrim and Carlow wouldn't want that
In reality any football B competition would probably be as poorly marketed as the Hurling B,C and D championship competitions currently are. Even more players from the lesser football counties will probably stick to club football then and the supporters of those counties would have less interest also. Yesterday almost five per cent of the population of Leitrim travelled to the Big Apple to cheer them on which for a first round game shows the interest there is for a championship match.
Quote from: Itchy on May 07, 2018, 03:54:12 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 07, 2018, 02:55:16 PM
Quote from: joemamas on May 07, 2018, 02:16:34 PM
Stop being delusional that teams in Div 3 and Div 4 have any chance in the current environment of "winning" an All-Ireland.
The idea of Div 3 and Div 4 in the All Ireland championship is not to win but to take part, to have their day in the sun and for some a unexpected run that will leave lasting memories. A 2nd tier or B Championship will not appeal to many of the lesser counties the way the All Ireland championship does.
A tiered competition is already in place in the GAA where Div 3 and Div 4 can improve in time its called the NFL and the GAA top brass should be looking at ways to raise the profile and importance of that competition.
I don't get that attitude. It's like a club preferring to play in the senior championship and get the shite bet out of them rather than win the junior championship. The later would inspire kids and coaches the former will turn people away. The key is to market such a B competition properly. Any tv deal must include televising X amount if games from the B championship. Final must be in before all Ireland final instead of minors. You telling me players from leitrim and Carlow wouldn't want that
You talk about marketing a competition with an entirely straight face the same week RTÉ cut a bunch of competitive senior championship ties for Super 8 coverage. Wow.
People do not care about B competition whether they're televised or not.
That's why I said it should be written into contract. For example if sky want to buy 2 quarter final and 2 semi finals they must pay x and also televise b champ games x,y,z.
Anyone in a business will be aware of the notion that, for example in medical devices, company's obviously want the big volumes of the big sellers but governments will force them to tender on a package which will contain a few odd balls. So no odd balls no big sellers either. It's down to the GAA to cut up their product like this and force sky and Rte to play ball. It's not rocket science.
Or I suppose we could pretend watching Dublin in second gear destroy Wicklow is great viewing.
What if yesterday's game in NY had been the All Ireland Junior Semi Final.....
First of all where do we draw the line on who qualifies for the B championship?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 07, 2018, 06:42:53 PM
First of all where do we draw the line on who qualifies for the B championship?
Id do it be league placing. Div3/4 in B
Quote from: Itchy on May 07, 2018, 06:44:51 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 07, 2018, 06:42:53 PM
First of all where do we draw the line on who qualifies for the B championship?
Id do it be league placing. Div3/4 in B
Would the 2 sides promoted from 3 go to A?
Would you keep the Provincials?
Quote from: Rossfan on May 07, 2018, 06:32:15 PM
What if yesterday's game in NY had been the All Ireland Junior Semi Final.....
Few probably know now but Leitrim played in All Ireland Junior semi final back in July. Little or no coverage of it and it was poorly attended. Compared to yesterday the game was talked up for months it grabbed the attention of not just New York,Leitrim but the general public also so much so that plenty would have watched that game last night if it was televised.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 07, 2018, 06:48:12 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 07, 2018, 06:32:15 PM
What if yesterday's game in NY had been the All Ireland Junior Semi Final.....
Few probably know now but Leitrim played in All Ireland Junior semi final back in July. Little or no coverage of it and it was poorly attended. Compared to yesterday the game was talked up for months it grabbed the attention of not just New York,Leitrim but the general public also so much so that plenty would watch that game last night if it was televised.
Difference is promotion vs no promotion.
Big difference between what passes as a JFC now and a structured Senior/Inter/Junior system with promotion/relegation like the Club scene in virtually every County.
Quote from: Itchy on May 07, 2018, 06:49:37 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 07, 2018, 06:48:12 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 07, 2018, 06:32:15 PM
What if yesterday's game in NY had been the All Ireland Junior Semi Final.....
Few probably know now but Leitrim played in All Ireland Junior semi final back in July. Little or no coverage of it and it was poorly attended. Compared to yesterday the game was talked up for months it grabbed the attention of not just New York,Leitrim but the general public also so much so that plenty would watch that game last night if it was televised.
Difference is promotion vs no promotion.
As been said on here already we have promotion competition and that competition isn't as high profile as it should be.
Because it's in effect pre Season tournament.
Maybe if there were senior, intermediate and junior championships and your position in each was determined by your league position.
Senior = all div1 plus top 4 div 2.
Intermediate = bottom 4 div 2 plus div 3
Junior = div 4 plus new York.
I was also an advocate of provincial system but it's just not working any more- maybe it never did.
Quote from: Syferus on May 07, 2018, 03:09:12 PM
Quote from: joemamas on May 07, 2018, 01:42:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 07, 2018, 10:00:26 AM
We're all off to Carrick on the 26th of May.
I hear the game us at the daft time of 5 30 to accommodate some TV soccery sh1te!!!
What's wrong with having it on a Sunday??
By the way what did NY ever do to annoy our eejit?
Rossfan, Thank you.
The village idiot is alive and well.
To call people who had to emigrate to find work mercenaries just beggars belief, even for him.
I wonder what the Thousands of genuine Roscommon GAA folk who left Ireland over the past fifty years to settle in NY would think of that comment.
It must be fun living in a world where you can make up your own version of reality.
Some of the people on that team left jobs to go to New York for the summer.. village idiot would be right. Some of ye are too quick to talk about Connacht football without knowing your facts.
You might want to update what your image of what Ireland is from forty years ago because emigration, particularly to a place like NYC, no longer means the same thing it once did. These are not people desperate for a job going over, rather they're mostly college-educated and fully capable of working at home. Going to New York is less an experience akin to a famine ship and more an adventure in that context.
Yet you called the new York team mercenaries. Please explain
I hear the injuries are mounting for the rossies with more than half a dozen players carrying knocks. Will Leitrim start to smell an upset in the air?
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 15, 2018, 02:52:35 PM
I hear the injuries are mounting for the rossies with more than half a dozen players carrying knocks. Will Leitrim start to smell an upset in the air?
Nah.
Hopefully we'll have most of themy back for Round 4 :-\
Quote from: Rossfan on May 15, 2018, 04:56:03 PM
Hopefully we'll have most of themy back for Round 4 :-\
There's only three rounds of the Super 8.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 15, 2018, 04:56:03 PM
Hopefully we'll have most of themy back for Round 4 :-\
I had Roscommon marked down to reach the super 8 but with all these injuries mounting up i have my doubts now, after a good league the rossies could likely face a repeat of 2016 (Connacht final defeat followed by a round 4 defeat)
Ye must all think that game a few weeks ago was the Connacht Final :-\
The big one for all the Ronans/Micks/Shannon Gaelers/Kilmores/ Kilglassers is on a ridiculous Saturday evening.
Anyway all very quiet across the River no doubt hoping to shock the world by doing what they almost did on a Saturday evening back in 2003.
Hopefully we'll be flying for it and give the hoors exactly what they deserve -a good batin'.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 23, 2018, 03:17:50 PM
Ye must all think that game a few weeks ago was the Connacht Final :-\
The lack of a reason for the Mayo lads to post here with reference to their Senior team anymore is probably the issue to be honest.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 15, 2018, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 15, 2018, 04:56:03 PM
Hopefully we'll have most of themy back for Round 4 :-\
I had Roscommon marked down to reach the super 8 but with all these injuries mounting up i have my doubts now, after a good league the rossies could likely face a repeat of 2016 (Connacht final defeat followed by a round 4 defeat)
3 Connacht teams in the last 8 is a possibility
But maybe no games in the Hyde......
http://www.shannonside.ie/news/local/roscommon/roscommon-town-lose-gaa-connaught-final/
Quote from: Rossfan on May 23, 2018, 10:30:51 PM
But maybe no games in the Hyde......
http://www.shannonside.ie/news/local/roscommon/roscommon-town-lose-gaa-connaught-final/
Are you still for conceding the Connacht championship given we have all those injuries?
I'll concede nothing but seems officialdom wants the Hyde out of the equation?
Seeing as we're effectively in examinership we're fighting on a wake stomacheen :-\
In the case of Galway, would Roscommon concede home advantage or bring it to Castlebar? Provided tonight goes as the Indo indicates
Quote from: Manning18 on May 24, 2018, 12:22:18 PM
In the case of Galway, would Roscommon concede home advantage or bring it to Castlebar? Provided tonight goes as the Indo indicates
The whole of Roscommon would eat sand for a month or two before allowing it to go to Castlebar.
Personnally i would bring it to Croker like the Ulster final a few years ago. Our record in McHale us shocking and Galway have an excellent record there. Salthill is a nightmare and most Roscommon people would be up and down from Croker quicker than Salthill on match day. It would also stick two fingers up to Connaght council who are acting the bollox. Anyway it doesnt matter in the slightest unless we get over Leitrim Saturday evening
Sligo beat Mayo in a challenge last night.
Ros team
Lavin
Murray Domican McInerney
McManus B Stack Devaney
Compton O'Rourke
E Smith Kilroy Fintan Cregg
Donie Smith and the 2 Murtaghs.
Niall Daly the 2 Lennons and Harney injured.
Bench lightweight enough as a result.
Once the lads are focused we should be winning this handy.
However if they think they're in the Final already could be in for a rude awakening.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 24, 2018, 01:29:37 PM
Ros team
Lavin
Murray Domican McInerney
McManus B Stack Devaney
Compton O'Rourke
E Smith Kilroy Fintan Cregg
Donie Smith and the 2 Murtaghs.
Niall Daly the 2 Lennons and Harney injured.
Bench lightweight enough as a result.
Once the lads are focused we should be winning this handy.
However if they think they're in the Final already could be in for a rude awakening.
Subs
16 James Fetherstone (Roscommon Gaels)
17 Cathal Cregg (Western Gaels)
18 Conor Daly (Padraig Pearses)
19 Finbar Cregg (Western Gaels)
20 Gary Patterson (Michael Glaveys)
21 Ian Kilbride (St Brigids)
22 Padraig Kelly (St Brigids)
23 Ronan Stack (St Brigids)
24 Ross Timothy (St Croans)
25 Sean McDermott (Western Gaels)
26 Shane Killoran (Elphin)
Looks on the light side alright. 4 injuries to possible starters doesn't help am i right in saying a few of those subs didn't play in the NFL at all this year?
I think Finbar, Kelly, Patterson and Ronan Stack didn't anyway.
Still Cathal, Seànie and Conor Daly are good subs to have around.
Timothy and Killoran aren't bad either.
Quote from: Manning18 on May 24, 2018, 12:22:18 PM
In the case of Galway, would Roscommon concede home advantage or bring it to Castlebar? Provided tonight goes as the Indo indicates
Galway probably have a better record in Castlebar than in Salthill to be honest.
Probably best to leave this talk for the time being though as Sligo and Leitrim will have their say yet.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 24, 2018, 02:38:22 PM
I think Finbar, Kelly, Patterson and Ronan Stack didn't anyway.
Still Cathal, Seànie and Conor Daly are good subs to have around.
Timothy and Killoran aren't bad either.
Finbar played in the early rounds but had a nightmare against Down(Lost a tooth in warmup) and hardly featured after.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 24, 2018, 02:38:22 PM
I think Finbar, Kelly, Patterson and Ronan Stack didn't anyway.
Still Cathal, Seànie and Conor Daly are good subs to have around.
Timothy and Killoran aren't bad either.
;D
The only reason Patterson didn't feature was because he was with the club for most of the league too. I like the look of the bench with a few experienced players and a couple of good newcomers in the likes of Kelly and Timothy.
Padraic Kelly was dropped for league and came back in a few weeks ago, never should've been dropped in first place. He's not flashy but I think he will see plenty of action against Leitrim and coukd be z dark horse for starting a connacht final if we escape Carrick on Saturday....
Sean Mullooly and Cian Connolly two championship starters from last year will they be returning in 2019 after their summer of traveling?
5 changes from the Div 2 final. Three in defence which was needed but even Leitrim i can imagine will be going for goals in this game.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 24, 2018, 05:26:47 PM
Sean Mullooly and Cian Connolly two championship starters from last year will they be returning in 2019 after their summer of traveling?
5 changes from the Div 2 final. Three in defence which was needed but even Leitrim i can imagine will be going for goals in this game.
Well given Mul has a 3 year contract with KPMG waiting for him and said when he announced he was traveling that he would would be back for 2019.. err, yes?
Decision on the Hyde postponed till after Saturday.
Sligo beat Mayo in a challenge game on Tuesday night. Won by 5 points!
Quote from: ck on May 25, 2018, 09:37:18 AM
Sligo beat Mayo in a challenge game on Tuesday night. Won by 5 points!
I'd settle for going to McHale for the CF if we were playing Sligo.
That wasn't even a challenge match.
We're going in against Sligo/Galway without a test.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 26, 2018, 08:58:07 PM
That wasn't even a challenge match.
We're going in against Sligo/Galway without a test.
Who gives a fûck. We hammered them last year too and it made zero difference.
I see Kevin Mc is making big statements about playing in the Hyde and nowhere else...................unless it's Sligo they're up against, then they'll play in Castlebar.
Quote from: Duine Eile on May 26, 2018, 10:19:11 PM
I see Kevin Mc is making big statements about playing in the Hyde and nowhere else...................unless it's Sligo they're up against, then they'll play in Castlebar.
It would be the Galway thing to do to let everyone down when they think they're going to win.
Quote from: Syferus on May 26, 2018, 10:22:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on May 26, 2018, 10:19:11 PM
I see Kevin Mc is making big statements about playing in the Hyde and nowhere else...................unless it's Sligo they're up against, then they'll play in Castlebar.
It would be the Galway thing to do to get everyone down when they think they're going to win.
::)
Seriously though, what's the issue with the Hyde, is it capacity?
Quote from: Duine Eile on May 26, 2018, 10:37:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 26, 2018, 10:22:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on May 26, 2018, 10:19:11 PM
I see Kevin Mc is making big statements about playing in the Hyde and nowhere else...................unless it's Sligo they're up against, then they'll play in Castlebar.
It would be the Galway thing to do to get everyone down when they think they're going to win.
::)
Seriously though, what's the issue with the Hyde, is it capacity?
Ticketing. JP wants new electronic turnstiles to accurately account for attendances, which would mean the capacity that is there could be used more efficiently. Seamus Duke in the People this week said the CB are getting a mobile ticketing system that Tullamore used and that should bring the capacity of the Hyde up from 18,000 to 23,000 and that would be more than enough to host the Connacht final.
Love that McStay used his position to put pressure on the Connacht Council publicly, he's the best Roscommon manger I've seen in my lifetime.
Read Croke park not JP 're the turnstiles.
Hyde won't be full anyways with 23k.... 12 maybe from Ross and 7 or 8 from the herring chokers.
I take it you weren't born in 1980 or 1990 then 're Roscommon managers......
Quote from: Duine Eile on May 26, 2018, 10:37:27 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 26, 2018, 10:22:40 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on May 26, 2018, 10:19:11 PM
I see Kevin Mc is making big statements about playing in the Hyde and nowhere else...................unless it's Sligo they're up against, then they'll play in Castlebar.
It would be the Galway thing to do to get everyone down when they think they're going to win.
::)
Seriously though, what's the issue with the Hyde, is it capacity?
It's capacity and turnstiles..... modern ticket resding turnstiles won't increase health and safety capacity but might increase revenues ....... county board should prioritise the hyde over a vanity training pitch development in Oran and are being gobshites to be fair. A very good co secretary, pro and new treasurer but some awful poor reps involved in other key positions
Quote from: Orchard park on May 27, 2018, 12:04:24 AM
Read Croke park not JP 're the turnstiles.
Hyde won't be full anyways with 23k.... 12 maybe from Ross and 7 or 8 from the herring chokers.
I take it you weren't born in 1980 or 1990 then 're Roscommon managers......
Away in a manger
Away with the fairies
They don't show GAA Gold in primary schools
Adorable from McStay getting all indignant. Possibly going beyond his station a bit but sure it's worth a go anyway
It's admirable but he will look some clown if he has to bring his team to castlebar and they happen to get beat too.
If Galway win v Sligo the venue of the Connacht final shouldn't even be up for debate. Hyde Park successfully hosted the 2011,2012 and 2015 Connacht finals and a Galway v Roscommon final will likely have a smaller crowd than any of those last 3 finals in Hyde Park.
Sligo win then the final will be played in Castlebar as they get to play finals in neutrals venues and won't be giving Roscommon home advantage or choosing Salthill
McStay will not risk his players getting injured in the sand dunes of McHale park and rightly so.
More concrete benches in McHale park too
You cannot see the sideline of the pitch from the 'seating' opposite the big blue stand
Any chance Sligo might bate Galway?
Quote from: Rossfan on May 27, 2018, 12:38:57 PM
Any chance Sligo might bate Galway?
Don't think so Galway have moved on a lot from 2012...
Quote from: Rossfan on May 27, 2018, 12:38:57 PM
Any chance Sligo might bate Galway?
Every chance
Kevin Walsh has a history of it
I believe the Salthill pitch was in poor shape today.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 27, 2018, 02:05:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 27, 2018, 12:38:57 PM
Any chance Sligo might bate Galway?
Every chance
Kevin Walsh has a history of it
A history of what? In fairness he actually managed Sligo to beat Galway once.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 27, 2018, 11:23:43 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 27, 2018, 02:05:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 27, 2018, 12:38:57 PM
Any chance Sligo might bate Galway?
Every chance
Kevin Walsh has a history of it
A history of what? In fairness he actually managed Sligo to beat Galway once.
History of losing games his teams were hot favourites to win i presume. Off the top of my head.
v London 2013
v Tipp 2016
v Roscommon 2017
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 27, 2018, 11:23:43 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 27, 2018, 02:05:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 27, 2018, 12:38:57 PM
Any chance Sligo might bate Galway?
Every chance
Kevin Walsh has a history of it
A history of what? In fairness he actually managed Sligo to beat Galway once.
Twice
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 28, 2018, 12:00:26 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 27, 2018, 11:23:43 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 27, 2018, 02:05:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 27, 2018, 12:38:57 PM
Any chance Sligo might bate Galway?
Every chance
Kevin Walsh has a history of it
A history of what? In fairness he actually managed Sligo to beat Galway once.
History of losing games his teams were hot favourites to win i presume. Off the top of my head.
v London 2013
v Tipp 2016
v Roscommon 2017
& Roscommon 2010
Quote from: Owenmoresider on May 28, 2018, 08:54:59 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 28, 2018, 12:00:26 AM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on May 27, 2018, 11:23:43 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on May 27, 2018, 02:05:31 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 27, 2018, 12:38:57 PM
Any chance Sligo might bate Galway?
Every chance
Kevin Walsh has a history of it
A history of what? In fairness he actually managed Sligo to beat Galway once.
History of losing games his teams were hot favourites to win i presume. Off the top of my head.
v London 2013
v Tipp 2016
v Roscommon 2017
& Roscommon 2010
Leitrim 2011
as I said, there's a nice history to back up the boom and bust performances of his teams
You can get Sligo at 9/1 best price so there's plenty of money to be made if they can pull off the win.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 28, 2018, 03:01:18 PM
You can get Sligo at 9/1 best price so there's plenty of money to be made if they can pull off the win.
Two reason why i wouldn't back Sligo.
1. Unlikely to produce a winning total against Galways blanket
2. Will concede a big score themselves as they will struggle to contain the Galway forward line.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 28, 2018, 03:01:18 PM
You can get Sligo at 9/1 best price so there's plenty of money to be made if they can pull off the win.
Jaysus 9/1 in a two horse race. They were heavy underdogs in 2012 also.
Did ye see the state of the Pearse Stadium pitch yesterday?
It's in terrible shape and won't be any better next weekend.
It was like Laytown races
I hear Sligo beat Mayo in a behind closed doors secret game last week.
McStay comments in the indo, "We are in the Connacht final, we have the home venue. It will be played in the Hyde. I have no doubt it will.
"We'll certainly be turning up in the Hyde. I hope someone else is there to meet us on the day and we'd be very, very absolute about that. We'll be there and let's see."
If Sligo win on Sunday lets hope McStay is a man of his word 8) Id take a default Connacht title ;D.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 28, 2018, 08:32:49 PM
McStay comments in the indo, "We are in the Connacht final, we have the home venue. It will be played in the Hyde. I have no doubt it will.
"We'll certainly be turning up in the Hyde. I hope someone else is there to meet us on the day and we'd be very, very absolute about that. We'll be there and let's see."
If Sligo win on Sunday lets hope McStay is a man of his word 8) Id take a default Connacht title ;D.
Not sure if the Indo has it but i seen the full interview, he also said unless if Sligo win then they will be going to Castlebar for the final.
If Galway win the final wI'll be in the Hyde 100%.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 28, 2018, 08:37:03 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 28, 2018, 08:32:49 PM
McStay comments in the indo, "We are in the Connacht final, we have the home venue. It will be played in the Hyde. I have no doubt it will.
"We'll certainly be turning up in the Hyde. I hope someone else is there to meet us on the day and we'd be very, very absolute about that. We'll be there and let's see."
If Sligo win on Sunday lets hope McStay is a man of his word 8) Id take a default Connacht title ;D.
Not sure if the Indo has it but i seen the full interview, he also said unless if Sligo win then they will be going to Castlebar for the final.
I know its taken out of context for sure, the Indo article has no mention of Sligo but honestly everyone in Roscommon privately are planning for Galway including McStay.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 28, 2018, 08:41:01 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 28, 2018, 08:37:03 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 28, 2018, 08:32:49 PM
McStay comments in the indo, "We are in the Connacht final, we have the home venue. It will be played in the Hyde. I have no doubt it will.
"We'll certainly be turning up in the Hyde. I hope someone else is there to meet us on the day and we'd be very, very absolute about that. We'll be there and let's see."
If Sligo win on Sunday lets hope McStay is a man of his word 8) Id take a default Connacht title ;D.
Not sure if the Indo has it but i seen the full interview, he also said unless if Sligo win then they will be going to Castlebar for the final.
I know its taken out of context for sure, the Indo article has no mention of Sligo but honestly everyone in Roscommon privately are planning for Galway including McStay.
McStay literally prefaced what he said by saying people are overlooking Sligo. After the last few years anything can happen and Galway are far from infallible. Our goal is to make the Super 8s and it doesn't really matter who we have to beat to get there. I'd prefer it to be Sligo, though.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 28, 2018, 08:41:01 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 28, 2018, 08:37:03 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 28, 2018, 08:32:49 PM
McStay comments in the indo, "We are in the Connacht final, we have the home venue. It will be played in the Hyde. I have no doubt it will.
"We'll certainly be turning up in the Hyde. I hope someone else is there to meet us on the day and we'd be very, very absolute about that. We'll be there and let's see."
If Sligo win on Sunday lets hope McStay is a man of his word 8) Id take a default Connacht title ;D.
Not sure if the Indo has it but i seen the full interview, he also said unless if Sligo win then they will be going to Castlebar for the final.
I know its taken out of context for sure, the Indo article has no mention of Sligo but honestly everyone in Roscommon privately are planning for Galway including McStay.
Can you sell a upset to me for this Sunday in Salthill? Sligo will probably need goals to win and Galway have conceded just one goal all year and in NFL or championship only Dublin so far this year have beaten them.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 28, 2018, 08:47:29 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 28, 2018, 08:41:01 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 28, 2018, 08:37:03 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 28, 2018, 08:32:49 PM
McStay comments in the indo, "We are in the Connacht final, we have the home venue. It will be played in the Hyde. I have no doubt it will.
"We'll certainly be turning up in the Hyde. I hope someone else is there to meet us on the day and we'd be very, very absolute about that. We'll be there and let's see."
If Sligo win on Sunday lets hope McStay is a man of his word 8) Id take a default Connacht title ;D.
Not sure if the Indo has it but i seen the full interview, he also said unless if Sligo win then they will be going to Castlebar for the final.
I know its taken out of context for sure, the Indo article has no mention of Sligo but honestly everyone in Roscommon privately are planning for Galway including McStay.
Can you sell a upset to me for this Sunday in Salthill? Sligo will probably need goals to win and Galway have conceded just one goal all year and in NFL or championship only Dublin so far this year have beaten them.
Sligo to win by 2pts and save everyone the hassle of worrying about the Hyde, Sligo scored 3 goals against Derry when facing relegation in the face, we got this.. 8)
Go Sligo
Quote from: galwayman on May 28, 2018, 04:12:57 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 28, 2018, 03:01:18 PM
You can get Sligo at 9/1 best price so there's plenty of money to be made if they can pull off the win.
Jaysus 9/1 in a two horse race. They were heavy underdogs in 2012 also.
Did ye see the state of the Pearse Stadium pitch yesterday?
It's in terrible shape and won't be any better next weekend.
Pitch was fine. Bare maybe but perfectly firm and playable. Less likely to have an impact on a big ball game than hurling.
Quote from: mouview on May 28, 2018, 11:46:58 PM
Quote from: galwayman on May 28, 2018, 04:12:57 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 28, 2018, 03:01:18 PM
You can get Sligo at 9/1 best price so there's plenty of money to be made if they can pull off the win.
Jaysus 9/1 in a two horse race. They were heavy underdogs in 2012 also.
Did ye see the state of the Pearse Stadium pitch yesterday?
It's in terrible shape and won't be any better next weekend.
Pitch was fine. Bare maybe but perfectly firm and playable. Less likely to have an impact on a big ball game than hurling.
Given the way both games are played a bad surface effects football more than hurling. McHale's sand dunes were firm too..
Quote from: Syferus on May 28, 2018, 11:59:45 PM
Quote from: mouview on May 28, 2018, 11:46:58 PM
Quote from: galwayman on May 28, 2018, 04:12:57 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 28, 2018, 03:01:18 PM
You can get Sligo at 9/1 best price so there's plenty of money to be made if they can pull off the win.
Jaysus 9/1 in a two horse race. They were heavy underdogs in 2012 also.
Did ye see the state of the Pearse Stadium pitch yesterday?
It's in terrible shape and won't be any better next weekend.
Pitch was fine. Bare maybe but perfectly firm and playable. Less likely to have an impact on a big ball game than hurling.
Given the way both games are played a bad surface effects football more than hurling. McHale's sand dunes were firm too..
How exactly are you coming to that conclusion?
He's right, it does effect football.
It has an awful affect on hurling though.
Quote from: Syferus on May 28, 2018, 11:59:45 PM
Quote from: mouview on May 28, 2018, 11:46:58 PM
Quote from: galwayman on May 28, 2018, 04:12:57 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 28, 2018, 03:01:18 PM
You can get Sligo at 9/1 best price so there's plenty of money to be made if they can pull off the win.
Jaysus 9/1 in a two horse race. They were heavy underdogs in 2012 also.
Did ye see the state of the Pearse Stadium pitch yesterday?
It's in terrible shape and won't be any better next weekend.
Pitch was fine. Bare maybe but perfectly firm and playable. Less likely to have an impact on a big ball game than hurling.
Given the way both games are played a bad surface effects football more than hurling. McHale's sand dunes were firm too..
you really are an idiot
Let's play every future Connacht championship match in Dr. Hyde Park. Happy everyone?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 29, 2018, 10:43:31 AM
Let's play every future Connacht championship match in Dr. Hyde Park. Happy everyone?
The irony that the intent of the Connacht Council was once to have the Hyde as the main provincial ground ala Clones in Ulster shouldn't be lost in your attempt at glibness.
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 29, 2018, 09:47:24 AM
He's right, it does effect football.
It has an awful affect on hurling though.
Well no, he couldn't be more wrong. How would a bad surface affect football more than hurling when a Sliotar spends about 5 times more time flat on the ground, it's far far harder to get up from the ground into the hand, all frees & sidelines must be taken from the ground, and players actually play the ball along the ground
Can any of ye riddle me this? How come Mayo v Galway Q/final tickets were €30/25 yet Galway v Sligo S/final tickets are only €25/20?
Quote from: mayo.mick on May 29, 2018, 12:05:00 PM
Can any of ye riddle me this? How come Mayo v Galway Q/final tickets were €30/25 yet Galway v Sligo S/final tickets are only €25/20?
the big blue stand
Quote from: mayo.mick on May 29, 2018, 12:05:00 PM
Can any of ye riddle me this? How come Mayo v Galway Q/final tickets were €30/25 yet Galway v Sligo S/final tickets are only €25/20?
Do you really need to ask, though?
Quote from: Manning18 on May 29, 2018, 11:11:27 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 29, 2018, 09:47:24 AM
He's right, it does effect football.
It has an awful affect on hurling though.
Well no, he couldn't be more wrong. How would a bad surface affect football more than hurling when a Sliotar spends about 5 times more time flat on the ground, it's far far harder to get up from the ground into the hand, all frees & sidelines must be taken from the ground, and players actually play the ball along the ground
affect/effect
A bad surface has a bigger impact on football because it impedes the delivery of inch perfect crossfield foot passes as well as accurate kicked passes from the 40 into the full forward line
It also is sand in the Vaseline of keeping the ball away from the opposition as you run down the clock and could mean delivering a back pass to an opposition player.
Quote from: mayo.mick on May 29, 2018, 12:05:00 PM
Can any of ye riddle me this? How come Mayo v Galway Q/final tickets were €30/25 yet Galway v Sligo S/final tickets are only €25/20?
That couldn't be the case, sure Prenty always favours mayo....
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 29, 2018, 10:18:27 PM
Quote from: mayo.mick on May 29, 2018, 12:05:00 PM
Can any of ye riddle me this? How come Mayo v Galway Q/final tickets were €30/25 yet Galway v Sligo S/final tickets are only €25/20?
That couldn't be the case, sure Prenty always favours mayo....
He just does that with venues, officials and grants. And still little old Roscommon are the Connacht champions and Mayo haven't got a bit of silverware in years..
Teams have been named, good few changes for Galway, Ian Burke starts.
GALWAY:
Ruairí Lavelle (Bóthar an Trá/Cnoc na Cathrach)
Declan Kyne (An Fhairche)
Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Naomh Ánna)
David Wynne (Maigh Cuilinn)
Cathal Sweeney (Cill Ainnín)
Gareth Bradshaw (Maigh Cuilinn)
Seán Kelly (Maigh Cuilinn)
Paul Conroy (Naomh Séamus)
Thomas Flynn (Baile Átha'n Rí
Eamonn Brannigan (Naomh Micheál)
Shane Walsh (Cill Chloirín/Cluain Bheirne)
Johnny Heaney (Cill Ainnín)
Ian Burke (Corafinne)
Damien Comer (Anach Cuain)
Barry McHugh (An Creagán/Magh Locha
SLIGO:
Aidan Devaney (Calraigh Naomh Iósef)
Charles Harrison (Naomh Eoin)
Eoin McHugh (Gael Naomh Molaise)
Ross Donovan (Cláirsigh An Oirthear)
Neil Ewing (Droim Cliabh-Ros Ceite)
Adrian McIntyre (Tuarloistreáin)
Gerard Ó Kelly/Lynch (Naomh Mhuire)
Niall Murphy (Cuil-Irra/Leathros)
Kevin McDonnell (Caisleáin Uí Conchuir)
Paddy O'Connor (Naomh Fearnan)
Liam Gaughan (Tuarloistreáin)
Cathal Henry (Tuarloistreáin)
Kyle Cawley (Naomh Muire)
Pat Hughes (Gaobach)
Adrian Marren (Curraigh)
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 31, 2018, 01:34:55 PM
Teams have been named, good few changes for Galway, Ian Burke starts.
GALWAY:
Ruairí Lavelle (Bóthar an Trá/Cnoc na Cathrach)
Declan Kyne (An Fhairche)
Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Naomh Ánna)
David Wynne (Maigh Cuilinn)
Cathal Sweeney (Cill Ainnín)
Gareth Bradshaw (Maigh Cuilinn)
Seán Kelly (Maigh Cuilinn)
Paul Conroy (Naomh Séamus)
Thomas Flynn (Baile Átha’n Rí
Eamonn Brannigan (Naomh Micheál)
Shane Walsh (Cill Chloirín/Cluain Bheirne)
Johnny Heaney (Cill Ainnín)
Ian Burke (Corafinne)
Damien Comer (Anach Cuain)
Barry McHugh (An Creagán/Magh Locha
SLIGO:
Aidan Devaney (Calraigh Naomh Iósef)
Charles Harrison (Naomh Eoin)
Eoin McHugh (Gael Naomh Molaise)
Ross Donovan (Cláirsigh An Oirthear)
Neil Ewing (Droim Cliabh-Ros Ceite)
Adrian McIntyre (Tuarloistreáin)
Gerard Ó Kelly/Lynch (Naomh Mhuire)
Niall Murphy (Cuil-Irra/Leathros)
Kevin McDonnell (Caisleáin Uí Conchuir)
Paddy O’Connor (Naomh Fearnan)
Liam Gaughan (Tuarloistreáin)
Cathal Henry (Tuarloistreáin)
Kyle Cawley (Naomh Muire)
Pat Hughes (Gaobach)
Adrian Marren (Curraigh)
Does anyone believe those teams will start? MOM from last game, Duggan dropped as well as Galway's best man marker (Kerin). Sligo team will probably see a few changes also.
4 is a lot of changes from a win over Mayo, injuries to starters Kerin,Duggan perhaps? as Walshs teams are normally known to start as selected. Apart from Marren not a lot of experience in that Sligo forward line and McDonnell,Murphy big lads but am i right in saying they aren't natural midfielders.
I didn't think that the Galway team named to start against Mayo would line out as selected either but they did so it's hard to know with the Galway side.
Kerin is carrying an injury so mightn't be fit to play thus giving Wynne a shot at it, Duggan change would be a harsh on him but all the other changes from the Mayo match aren't too surprising.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 31, 2018, 02:19:20 PM
I didn't think that the Galway team named to start against Mayo would line out as selected either but they did so it's hard to know with the Galway side.
Kerin is carrying an injury so mightn't be fit to play thus giving Wynne a shot at it, Duggan change would be a harsh on him but all the other changes from the Mayo match aren't too surprising.
A surprisingly rather positive line-up from Kevin Walsh; Kerin must be injured, can be no other explanation. Kelly in for GOD is a big step forward, as is Ian Burke starting. Flynn shouldn't be near the team but maybe KW is breaking Duggan in gradually, probably will finish the game. HB line of course not up to the sterner tests that lie in the distance.
Quote from: Mano on May 31, 2018, 02:03:52 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 31, 2018, 01:34:55 PM
Teams have been named, good few changes for Galway, Ian Burke starts.
GALWAY:
Ruairí Lavelle (Bóthar an Trá/Cnoc na Cathrach)
Declan Kyne (An Fhairche)
Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Naomh Ánna)
David Wynne (Maigh Cuilinn)
Cathal Sweeney (Cill Ainnín)
Gareth Bradshaw (Maigh Cuilinn)
Seán Kelly (Maigh Cuilinn)
Paul Conroy (Naomh Séamus)
Thomas Flynn (Baile Átha'n Rí
Eamonn Brannigan (Naomh Micheál)
Shane Walsh (Cill Chloirín/Cluain Bheirne)
Johnny Heaney (Cill Ainnín)
Ian Burke (Corafinne)
Damien Comer (Anach Cuain)
Barry McHugh (An Creagán/Magh Locha
SLIGO:
Aidan Devaney (Calraigh Naomh Iósef)
Charles Harrison (Naomh Eoin)
Eoin McHugh (Gael Naomh Molaise)
Ross Donovan (Cláirsigh An Oirthear)
Neil Ewing (Droim Cliabh-Ros Ceite)
Adrian McIntyre (Tuarloistreáin)
Gerard Ó Kelly/Lynch (Naomh Mhuire)
Niall Murphy (Cuil-Irra/Leathros)
Kevin McDonnell (Caisleáin Uí Conchuir)
Paddy O'Connor (Naomh Fearnan)
Liam Gaughan (Tuarloistreáin)
Cathal Henry (Tuarloistreáin)
Kyle Cawley (Naomh Muire)
Pat Hughes (Gaobach)
Adrian Marren (Curraigh)
Does anyone believe those teams will start? MOM from last game, Duggan dropped as well as Galway's best man marker (Kerin). Sligo team will probably see a few changes also.
3 of the 4 changes make sense to me anyway - Duggan the only puzzling one. Maybe he has an injury?
Kerin has been carrying an injury so I assume that is why he's not included. He's one of the first names on the teamsheet. He came on as a sub for his club in c'ship and was taken off again after 30 mins.
Army and GOD both struggled the last day so I wouldn't be surprised at their demotions.
I thought they might move Sweeney back to the corner and play Heaney wing back though.
Quote from: mouview on May 31, 2018, 02:26:56 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 31, 2018, 02:19:20 PM
I didn't think that the Galway team named to start against Mayo would line out as selected either but they did so it's hard to know with the Galway side.
Kerin is carrying an injury so mightn't be fit to play thus giving Wynne a shot at it, Duggan change would be a harsh on him but all the other changes from the Mayo match aren't too surprising.
A surprisingly rather positive line-up from Kevin Walsh; Kerin must be injured, can be no other explanation. Kelly in for GOD is a big step forward, as is Ian Burke starting. Flynn shouldn't be near the team but maybe KW is breaking Duggan in gradually, probably will finish the game. HB line of course not up to the sterner tests that lie in the distance.
Not sure how bad his injury is but he is definitely carrying a knock of some sort.
Quote from: galwayman on May 31, 2018, 02:45:22 PM
Quote from: mouview on May 31, 2018, 02:26:56 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 31, 2018, 02:19:20 PM
I didn't think that the Galway team named to start against Mayo would line out as selected either but they did so it's hard to know with the Galway side.
Kerin is carrying an injury so mightn't be fit to play thus giving Wynne a shot at it, Duggan change would be a harsh on him but all the other changes from the Mayo match aren't too surprising.
A surprisingly rather positive line-up from Kevin Walsh; Kerin must be injured, can be no other explanation. Kelly in for GOD is a big step forward, as is Ian Burke starting. Flynn shouldn't be near the team but maybe KW is breaking Duggan in gradually, probably will finish the game. HB line of course not up to the sterner tests that lie in the distance.
Not sure how bad his injury is but he is definitely carrying a knock of some sort.
I saw him at the hurling last weekend. He seemed to be moving fine but he was only walking. Not running or turning.
Kerin and Duggan are injured, Kerin didn't start or finish Annaghdown's game against Tuam, came on as a sub and off again. Some kind of leg injury I think. Don't know the nature of Duggan's but I did hear he was injured. Good to see Ian Burke starting.
I wouldn't expect many/any changes to the sligo selection. Coen and Cawley are injured, inexperienced but potentially very good forwards. You never know...
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 31, 2018, 09:25:31 PM
I wouldn't expect many/any changes to the sligo selection. Coen and Cawley are injured, inexperienced but potentially very good forwards. You never know...
What are the bench options for Sligo is it mostly young and inexperienced players like Cian Breheny, Sean Carrabine and Darragh Cummins?
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 31, 2018, 10:14:50 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 31, 2018, 09:25:31 PM
I wouldn't expect many/any changes to the sligo selection. Coen and Cawley are injured, inexperienced but potentially very good forwards. You never know...
What are the bench options for Sligo is it mostly young and inexperienced players like Cian Breheny, Sean Carrabine and Darragh Cummins?
How is Cian Breheny inexperienced?
Quote from: Syferus on May 31, 2018, 11:15:08 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 31, 2018, 10:14:50 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 31, 2018, 09:25:31 PM
I wouldn't expect many/any changes to the sligo selection. Coen and Cawley are injured, inexperienced but potentially very good forwards. You never know...
What are the bench options for Sligo is it mostly young and inexperienced players like Cian Breheny, Sean Carrabine and Darragh Cummins?
How is Cian Breheny inexperienced?
Early 20s and long way to go to reach the level of experience his uncle had.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 01, 2018, 01:00:44 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 31, 2018, 11:15:08 PM
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Quote from: sligoman2 on May 31, 2018, 09:25:31 PM
I wouldn't expect many/any changes to the sligo selection. Coen and Cawley are injured, inexperienced but potentially very good forwards. You never know...
What are the bench options for Sligo is it mostly young and inexperienced players like Cian Breheny, Sean Carrabine and Darragh Cummins?
How is Cian Breheny inexperienced?
Early 20s and long way to go to reach the level of experience his uncle had.
..he's in his fourth senior IC season starting?
I would expect cian to come in at an early stage if any forwards or midfielders are struggling, might come in at midfield with Murphy moving to forwards at some point. I would also expect. Carabine to see a lot of time in the game.
Quote from: Duine Eile on May 31, 2018, 05:07:12 PM
Kerin and Duggan are injured, Kerin didn't start or finish Annaghdown's game against Tuam, came on as a sub and off again. Some kind of leg injury I think. Don't know the nature of Duggan's but I did hear he was injured. Good to see Ian Burke starting.
Doesn't sound like Kerin's injury is too serious but can't imagine Kevin Walsh will be too impressed with him coming on and off injured the last day.
I see Kerin is based in Dublin along with Burke & Duane and been training by Divily on Tuesday nights in UCD.
Quote from: Syferus on June 01, 2018, 01:36:57 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 01, 2018, 01:00:44 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 31, 2018, 11:15:08 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 31, 2018, 10:14:50 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 31, 2018, 09:25:31 PM
I wouldn't expect many/any changes to the sligo selection. Coen and Cawley are injured, inexperienced but potentially very good forwards. You never know...
What are the bench options for Sligo is it mostly young and inexperienced players like Cian Breheny, Sean Carrabine and Darragh Cummins?
How is Cian Breheny inexperienced?
Early 20s and long way to go to reach the level of experience his uncle had.
..he's in his fourth senior IC season starting?
He has only been fully fit for 1 of them, haven't come close to seen him at his best, he's never really had a sustained run since the injury, needs to be injury free and getting plenty of game-time before you could experienced
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on June 01, 2018, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 01, 2018, 01:36:57 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 01, 2018, 01:00:44 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 31, 2018, 11:15:08 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 31, 2018, 10:14:50 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 31, 2018, 09:25:31 PM
I wouldn't expect many/any changes to the sligo selection. Coen and Cawley are injured, inexperienced but potentially very good forwards. You never know...
What are the bench options for Sligo is it mostly young and inexperienced players like Cian Breheny, Sean Carrabine and Darragh Cummins?
How is Cian Breheny inexperienced?
Early 20s and long way to go to reach the level of experience his uncle had.
..he's in his fourth senior IC season starting?
He has only been fully fit for 1 of them, haven't come close to seen him at his best, he's never really had a sustained run since the injury, needs to be injury free and getting plenty of game-time before you could experienced
Ah c'mon Sligonian - it was the lumping him in with U20s that was the stretch. Whatever about injuries Breheny is relatively experienced compared to those lads.
According to Ah Ref! Mayo played Roscommon in a challenge last night. Anybody have any info on how it went?
No. I heard a rumour there was a Challenge in the Hyde last night but had no idea who it was against.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 02, 2018, 09:13:33 AM
According to Ah Ref! Mayo played Roscommon in a challenge last night. Anybody have any info on how it went?
Only info i have is Mayo won by a couple of points i heard.
Syf would have been at that challenge match, hes an honorary member of the rhubarb admiration society and the hyde park development committee.
He's too busy advising Leo and Harris on the Abortion legislation, and God knows who else is seeking his advice as the expert on everything.
Still they gazed.......
Rumour is Rhubarbs led well at one stage and we hauled them back to a few points as both sides made wholesale subscriptions.
So Mayowestros ' first 15 better than us but we have better subs?
Quote from: Rossfan on June 02, 2018, 11:36:49 AM
He's too busy advising Leo and Harris on the Abortion legislation, and God knows who else is seeking his advice as the expert on everything.
Still they gazed.......
Rumour is Rhubarbs led well at one stage and we hauled them back to a few points as both sides made wholesale subscriptionsuppliers.
So Mayowestros ' first 15 better than us but we have better subs?
I'd say that's the case with a lot of counties unfortunately.
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 02, 2018, 10:50:20 AM
Syf would have been at that challenge match, hes an honorary member of the rhubarb admiration society and the hyde park development committee.
"Top secret"
Still using that iconic photo syf and associating that great man with the bile and bull you contribute here. You are a disgrace to the county and thats not top secret.
Quote from: giveballaghback on June 02, 2018, 02:08:08 PM
Still using that iconic photo syf and associating that great man with the bile and bull you contribute here. You are a disgrace to the county and thats not top secret.
I hear the security was very tight for the challenge match. No one allowed in.
::)
Read the post again syf and take down Dermott Earleys photo, I have requested this many times before, you do not use it on the stolen sheep thread, the use would not be tolerated especially with the filth you post.
A lot of Posters here caught up on picking on the Syferus! Take a chill pill! He's a passionate young man, an idealist in some ways and loves his club and county! Chill!
Mayo won 2-22 to 1-21. Mayo were about 9 up at half time. Neither team started either half with what would be considered their first 15s from what i heard. Very mixed teams of starters and subs.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 03, 2018, 01:21:05 AM
A lot of Posters here caught up on picking on the Syferus! Take a chill pill! He's a passionate young man, an idealist in some ways and loves his club and county! Chill!
His county alright......doesnt have need of shite on club game unless a Rossie club is in an all Ireland semi final.....
Syf is loved all over Mayo mostly because he is a Mayo man, 14000 + posts , such a sado
Quote from: Orchard park on June 03, 2018, 01:11:12 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 03, 2018, 01:21:05 AM
A lot of Posters here caught up on picking on the Syferus! Take a chill pill! He's a passionate young man, an idealist in some ways and loves his club and county! Chill!
His county alright......doesnt have need of shite on club game unless a Rossie club is in an all Ireland semi final.....
Really?
All you need to know about Galway v Sligo
Abridged Syf :
-Kevin Walsh is useless
-Galway fans wouldn't even go to an all Ireland Final.
-There were more Ros fans in the Hyde during the league than there were pilgrims to Mecca last year
RTE:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0531/967342-all-you-need-to-know-about-galway-and-sligo/
Is there a game today.
This thread is gone to hell....
Galway 0-3 Sligo 0-1. Cooke started instead of Conroy
galway 0.08. Sligo 0.02
Galway 0-10 Sligo 0-3. Contest will be good as over by half time by the looks of this.
Galway 1-15 Sligo 0-6 HT. The fat lady is singing.
2-20 to 1-9.
Ian Burke and Sean Kelly having great games.
Hard to believe Sligo managed by Ulster men would leave themselves so open in defence. Next up for Galway is against another wide open defensive team in Roscommon..
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 03, 2018, 04:48:34 PM
Hard to believe Sligo managed by Ulster men would leave themselves so open in defence. Next up for Galway is against another wide open defensive team in Roscommon..
Wasn't so wide open last year. If you think Galway will open the playbook after the hammering they got last year you don't know Kevin Walsh.
Massively disappointing, just a disastrous weekend all round for Sligo but nothing new
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on June 03, 2018, 05:10:23 PM
Massively disappointing, just a disastrous weekend all round for Sligo but nothing new
What was the Pat Hughes craic about? Sounded like he was bullin coming off.
Well I called that one wrong. Thought that would be closer. After that performance, Galway will have propelled themselves to third favourites behind Dublin and Kerry (expected that one to be closer too). Looking forward to a great game in the Hyde in two weeks.
Quote from: Syferus on June 03, 2018, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on June 03, 2018, 05:10:23 PM
Massively disappointing, just a disastrous weekend all round for Sligo but nothing new
What was the Pat Hughes craic about? Sounded like he was bullin coming off.
I don't know, the were alot messages into oceanfm giving out about the commentator for saying he should be taken off but they are probably from his club
Official -Final is in the Hyde.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 03, 2018, 06:46:10 PM
Official -Final is in the Hyde.
That should end a most of the nonsense talk now.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 03, 2018, 06:51:20 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 03, 2018, 06:46:10 PM
Official -Final is in the Hyde.
That should end a most of the nonsense talk now.
Ros may well get a Hydeing in the Hyde.
Afterwards Syf may well Hyde.
Connacht final attendance capped at 18,000 according to the pdf, some of the reasons are a joke, but could Sligo get a home Connacht final now after this
I expect attendance will be up to 25k once the main negotiator for Ross and John Prenty finish up....... but having it at 18 will hype up the early ticket sales
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on June 03, 2018, 08:10:00 PM
Connacht final attendance capped at 18,000 according to the pdf, some of the reasons are a joke, but could Sligo get a home Connacht final now after this
Think sligomhave bigger issues than capacity to overcome before needing to have this discussion....
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on June 03, 2018, 08:10:00 PM
Connacht final attendance capped at 18,000 according to the pdf, some of the reasons are a joke, but could Sligo get a home Connacht final now after this
That's the current capacity of the Hyde. With an electronic ticketing system that bounces up to 23k. We're supposed to be getting the use of a mobile system from Tullamore.
Ticketing system can't increase capacity surely.
18870 current capacity according to CC
Quote from: Syferus on June 03, 2018, 08:23:02 PM
That's the current capacity of the Hyde. With an electronic ticketing system that bounces up to 23k. We're supposed to be getting the use of a mobile system from Tullamore.
And you're not a teeny weeny bit embarrassed about being helped out by a county from a neighbouring province! :P
Quote from: Orchard park on June 03, 2018, 09:06:52 PM
Ticketing system can't increase capacity surely.
18870 current capacity according to CC
Reading between the lines. For now that current capacity is fine for a Galway v Roscommon final but in the years ahead if Mayo reach a final the capacity of about 25k will be required if Hyde park is to host it
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 03, 2018, 09:18:34 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on June 03, 2018, 09:06:52 PM
Ticketing system can't increase capacity surely.
18870 current capacity according to CC
Reading between the lines. For now that current capacity is fine for a Galway v Roscommon final but in the years ahead if Mayo reach a final the capacity of about 25k will be required if Hyde park is to host it
But for this year, will Roscommon be able to host their home Super 8 game in the Hyde?
Quote from: Hound on June 03, 2018, 09:24:59 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 03, 2018, 09:18:34 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on June 03, 2018, 09:06:52 PM
Ticketing system can't increase capacity surely.
18870 current capacity according to CC
Reading between the lines. For now that current capacity is fine for a Galway v Roscommon final but in the years ahead if Mayo reach a final the capacity of about 25k will be required if Hyde park is to host it
But for this year, will Roscommon be able to host their home Super 8 game in the Hyde?
Imagine so if they reach the Super 8. As Connacht champions their home game would be v Leinster runners up or round 4 winner and if Connacht runners up their home game would be v Ulster winner or round 4 winner the crowd at that would be no higher than this Connacht final v Galway unless of course the round 4 winner happens to be Mayo?
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 03, 2018, 09:18:34 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on June 03, 2018, 09:06:52 PM
Ticketing system can't increase capacity surely.
18870 current capacity according to CC
Reading between the lines. For now that current capacity is fine for a Galway v Roscommon final but in the years ahead if Mayo reach a final the capacity of about 25k will be required if Hyde park is to host it
Agreement says we're not getting any more Connacht Finals until the issues of new wall/entrance, permanent digi turnstiles and dressing rooms are sorted out.
Hyde can fit in at least about 28k.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 03, 2018, 09:18:34 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on June 03, 2018, 09:06:52 PM
Ticketing system can't increase capacity surely.
18870 current capacity according to CC
Reading between the lines. For now that current capacity is fine for a Galway v Roscommon final but in the years ahead if Mayo reach a final the capacity of about 25k will be required if Hyde park is to host it
We might not make many Connacht finals in the years ahead.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 03, 2018, 09:33:55 PM
Agreement says we're not getting any more Connacht Finals until the issues of new wall/entrance, permanent digi turnstiles and dressing rooms are sorted out.
Hyde can fit in at least about 28k.
Yes and it seems those things needs to be done in order to increase the capacity and right now the powers to be feel the set capacity is fine for a Galway v Roscommon final.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 03, 2018, 09:36:19 PM
We might not make many Connacht finals in the years ahead.
Hard to know where Mayo will be in the years ahead. Its currently the Longest period for Mayo to not reach a Connacht since the 70s i believe and who would have predicted that after 5 in a row in 2015?
Any of the Galway posters want to put up a decent match report?
To be honest MM, it had turned into a training spin by HT and Kevin ran the bench in the second half - was good to see Michael Daly get some game time under his belt. John Divilly's considered ;) thoughts below -
When players have real belief that their team is good enough to win a Championship game, then we see good decision-making and football played with a real purpose, writes John Divilly.
Their style is aggressive and they are proactive. However, if players go into a game with fear or a lack of real belief, then their decision-making will be tentative, passive and reactive. Galway were the former yesterday while Sligo were the latter.
Championship football is meant to be the hardest, meanest, and toughest. No quarters asked or given. Galway brought this mantra to the table in the first quarter in Pearse Stadium, while Sligo were in bank-holiday mode. It was epic Galway at times and they had time and space to play the game on their terms. But how did Galway create these terms?
The Galway footballers threw off the shackles. They knew, deep down, that they should have beaten Mayo by at least seven points. They were determined to put up a big score. They ran hard, fast, and often at Sligo in the first ten minutes in pods of threes and fours. The give and go strategy was in full flow as Galway weaved through Sligo. The half-forward line of Heaney, Walsh, and Brannigan were lethal. No wastage. Points angled over from all positions around the arc. Great kicking techniques showing skills of the highest level. The most impressive thing was that all three players kicked scores off both left and right feet.
The inside line of Burke, Comer, and McHugh were bamboozling the Sligo defence. Sligo had an extra defender, and sometimes two, trying to stop Comer and Burke winning first-time ball. They failed. The extra defenders were marking space and were happy to protect the D. Galway countered this very simply by always passing to the outside of their forwards.
Sligo were better off trying to double-mark Comer or Burke. There are not many defenders in the country who will win clean ball in front of these two Galway attackers. Before the inside pair even won the ball, the supporting cast were already in full flight. Sligo were very, very naive in their defending techniques. Roscommon won't be so naive.
Roscommon will have duly noted that the Sligo defence were very 'nice'. They never got real hands on the Galway attackers. They were allowed to dictate the tempo at their leisure. This may seem harsh on the Sligo lads. But this game was over after 15 minutes.
In fact, Galway could have been 12 points ahead after the first quarter. They had a lot of hand- and kick-passes intercepted at the final juncture. Surprisingly, it was Ian Burke who was the main culprit. He was the only Galway forward not to score in the first half. He put that right in the second half with a neat 1-2. His second point came from a Damien Comer tap-down. He sold a deft sidestep with a bounce and tapped a point over. His goal came from a mazy Shane Walsh run.
Shane is often castigated by the Galway fans because with all his talents, he often misfires in front of goal. Not yesterday. Four points from play with four attempts. He left a few Sligo lads with dust in their eyes zooming by them. He was one of Galway's best performers along with Damien Comer and Tom Flynn.
I thought Sean Kelly was outstanding. He hoovered up huge amounts of breaks and from 1-2 registered from play, his first point was the best.
Sligo's Pat Hughes had moved to wing-forward for all their restarts. He was successful with the first two as Sean Andy O Ceallaigh wasn't sure if he should follow his man so far out. Kelly put that tactic to bed with one play. He out-fielded Pat Hughes in the Galway half-back line. He soldiered forward with purpose. He offloaded the ball, kept his run going, got the ball back, and drilled over a great score. Simple yet stylish. He's going to be hard to shift from the Galway rearguard after yesterday. His pace will be needed against Roscommon because for all Galway's dominance yesterday, there was a lot of space on show for a more potent attack. Sligo kicked 13 wides and created some very scoreable goal chances.
Kevin Walsh will want his defence to answer why Sligo were allowed into the scoring zone so often. This is not a negative on the Galway team or defence. This is a question the players will need to answer honestly because this is where Roscommon will try to hurt us.
Sligo got a lot of breaking ball in the second half. Was this because we were missing Paul Conroy and Ciaran Duggan? Was it a direct result of Tom Flynn going off? Was it that our positioning was wrong under the breaking ball in the second half? Or was it simply a case of the Tribesmen taking the foot slightly off the pedal as they knew Sligo were only playing for pride?
The majority of Ruairi Lavelle's kickouts went long. Galway went short with two at the very end and we scored 1-1 as a direct result. Sligo, yet again, couldn't get a hand on these two penetrating attacks. Gary O'Donnell kicked the point and Damien Comer produced a Joe Canning style 'catch and shot on the turn'. A marksman-style goal.
When Sligo did look threatening there was a lot of space in front of the Galway goal. Kyle Cawley and Adrian Marren won lots of possession off Declan Kyne and David Wynne. Galway will have to work harder on closing these channels for the Connacht final.
Where will it be played? Who cares. The Galway players will want to right the wrongs for last year. They want to wrestle that Nestor Cup back. Kevin McStay says "his team will not be moved". Stay put Kevin, we're coming to you. We respect you as provincial champions, but we don't fear you.
Time to start talking about the Final.
Galway raging favourites naturally so all the pressure on them.
Meanwhile we'll be monitoring the Qualifiers to see who we may meet in Round 4.
Hopefully we can keep the margin to under 20 points anyway.
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on June 04, 2018, 12:20:38 PM
To be honest MM, it had turned into a training spin by HT and Kevin ran the bench in the second half - was good to see Michael Daly get some game time under his belt. John Divilly's considered ;) thoughts below -
When players have real belief that their team is good enough to win a Championship game, then we see good decision-making and football played with a real purpose, writes John Divilly.
Their style is aggressive and they are proactive. However, if players go into a game with fear or a lack of real belief, then their decision-making will be tentative, passive and reactive. Galway were the former yesterday while Sligo were the latter.
Championship football is meant to be the hardest, meanest, and toughest. No quarters asked or given. Galway brought this mantra to the table in the first quarter in Pearse Stadium, while Sligo were in bank-holiday mode. It was epic Galway at times and they had time and space to play the game on their terms. But how did Galway create these terms?
The Galway footballers threw off the shackles. They knew, deep down, that they should have beaten Mayo by at least seven points. They were determined to put up a big score. They ran hard, fast, and often at Sligo in the first ten minutes in pods of threes and fours. The give and go strategy was in full flow as Galway weaved through Sligo. The half-forward line of Heaney, Walsh, and Brannigan were lethal. No wastage. Points angled over from all positions around the arc. Great kicking techniques showing skills of the highest level. The most impressive thing was that all three players kicked scores off both left and right feet.
The inside line of Burke, Comer, and McHugh were bamboozling the Sligo defence. Sligo had an extra defender, and sometimes two, trying to stop Comer and Burke winning first-time ball. They failed. The extra defenders were marking space and were happy to protect the D. Galway countered this very simply by always passing to the outside of their forwards.
Sligo were better off trying to double-mark Comer or Burke. There are not many defenders in the country who will win clean ball in front of these two Galway attackers. Before the inside pair even won the ball, the supporting cast were already in full flight. Sligo were very, very naive in their defending techniques. Roscommon won't be so naive.
Roscommon will have duly noted that the Sligo defence were very 'nice'. They never got real hands on the Galway attackers. They were allowed to dictate the tempo at their leisure. This may seem harsh on the Sligo lads. But this game was over after 15 minutes.
In fact, Galway could have been 12 points ahead after the first quarter. They had a lot of hand- and kick-passes intercepted at the final juncture. Surprisingly, it was Ian Burke who was the main culprit. He was the only Galway forward not to score in the first half. He put that right in the second half with a neat 1-2. His second point came from a Damien Comer tap-down. He sold a deft sidestep with a bounce and tapped a point over. His goal came from a mazy Shane Walsh run.
Shane is often castigated by the Galway fans because with all his talents, he often misfires in front of goal. Not yesterday. Four points from play with four attempts. He left a few Sligo lads with dust in their eyes zooming by them. He was one of Galway's best performers along with Damien Comer and Tom Flynn.
I thought Sean Kelly was outstanding. He hoovered up huge amounts of breaks and from 1-2 registered from play, his first point was the best.
Sligo's Pat Hughes had moved to wing-forward for all their restarts. He was successful with the first two as Sean Andy O Ceallaigh wasn't sure if he should follow his man so far out. Kelly put that tactic to bed with one play. He out-fielded Pat Hughes in the Galway half-back line. He soldiered forward with purpose. He offloaded the ball, kept his run going, got the ball back, and drilled over a great score. Simple yet stylish. He's going to be hard to shift from the Galway rearguard after yesterday. His pace will be needed against Roscommon because for all Galway's dominance yesterday, there was a lot of space on show for a more potent attack. Sligo kicked 13 wides and created some very scoreable goal chances.
Kevin Walsh will want his defence to answer why Sligo were allowed into the scoring zone so often. This is not a negative on the Galway team or defence. This is a question the players will need to answer honestly because this is where Roscommon will try to hurt us.
Sligo got a lot of breaking ball in the second half. Was this because we were missing Paul Conroy and Ciaran Duggan? Was it a direct result of Tom Flynn going off? Was it that our positioning was wrong under the breaking ball in the second half? Or was it simply a case of the Tribesmen taking the foot slightly off the pedal as they knew Sligo were only playing for pride?
The majority of Ruairi Lavelle's kickouts went long. Galway went short with two at the very end and we scored 1-1 as a direct result. Sligo, yet again, couldn't get a hand on these two penetrating attacks. Gary O'Donnell kicked the point and Damien Comer produced a Joe Canning style 'catch and shot on the turn'. A marksman-style goal.
When Sligo did look threatening there was a lot of space in front of the Galway goal. Kyle Cawley and Adrian Marren won lots of possession off Declan Kyne and David Wynne. Galway will have to work harder on closing these channels for the Connacht final.
Where will it be played? Who cares. The Galway players will want to right the wrongs for last year. They want to wrestle that Nestor Cup back. Kevin McStay says "his team will not be moved". Stay put Kevin, we're coming to you. We respect you as provincial champions, but we don't fear you.
Cheers.
That line didn't come from nowhere, Divily is training Ian Burke, Duane & Kerin in Dublin.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 04, 2018, 12:57:48 PM
Time to start talking about the Final.
Galway raging favourites naturally so all the pressure on them.
Meanwhile we'll be monitoring the Qualifiers to see who we may meet in Round 4.
Hopefully we can keep the margin to under 20 points anyway.
This poor mouth routine got old years ago.
Humour by pass.
Out of the country so couldn't make the match, going by the GBFM commentary I know that KW changed around the panel of 26 a bit by giving Molloy, Cummins etc. a jersey, anyone have the full list of the Galway subs?
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 04, 2018, 03:12:54 PM
Out of the country so couldn't make the match, going by the GBFM commentary I know that KW changed around the panel of 26 a bit by giving Molloy, Cummins etc. a jersey, anyone have the full list of the Galway subs?
Off the top of my head AFA, Power, O'Donnell, Duane, Sweeney, Cummins, Daly, Armstrong, Molloy, Frankie Burke, Eoin Finnerty, Conroy. Pity Molloy didn't get a few minutes to show what he can do, we know what the likes of Duane and O'Donnell offer at this stage.
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on June 04, 2018, 12:20:38 PM
To be honest MM, it had turned into a training spin by HT and Kevin ran the bench in the second half - was good to see Michael Daly get some game time under his belt. John Divilly's considered ;) thoughts below -
When players have real belief that their team is good enough to win a Championship game, then we see good decision-making and football played with a real purpose, writes John Divilly.
Their style is aggressive and they are proactive. However, if players go into a game with fear or a lack of real belief, then their decision-making will be tentative, passive and reactive. Galway were the former yesterday while Sligo were the latter.
Championship football is meant to be the hardest, meanest, and toughest. No quarters asked or given. Galway brought this mantra to the table in the first quarter in Pearse Stadium, while Sligo were in bank-holiday mode. It was epic Galway at times and they had time and space to play the game on their terms. But how did Galway create these terms?
The Galway footballers threw off the shackles. They knew, deep down, that they should have beaten Mayo by at least seven points. They were determined to put up a big score. They ran hard, fast, and often at Sligo in the first ten minutes in pods of threes and fours. The give and go strategy was in full flow as Galway weaved through Sligo. The half-forward line of Heaney, Walsh, and Brannigan were lethal. No wastage. Points angled over from all positions around the arc. Great kicking techniques showing skills of the highest level. The most impressive thing was that all three players kicked scores off both left and right feet.
The inside line of Burke, Comer, and McHugh were bamboozling the Sligo defence. Sligo had an extra defender, and sometimes two, trying to stop Comer and Burke winning first-time ball. They failed. The extra defenders were marking space and were happy to protect the D. Galway countered this very simply by always passing to the outside of their forwards.
Sligo were better off trying to double-mark Comer or Burke. There are not many defenders in the country who will win clean ball in front of these two Galway attackers. Before the inside pair even won the ball, the supporting cast were already in full flight. Sligo were very, very naive in their defending techniques. Roscommon won't be so naive.
Roscommon will have duly noted that the Sligo defence were very 'nice'. They never got real hands on the Galway attackers. They were allowed to dictate the tempo at their leisure. This may seem harsh on the Sligo lads. But this game was over after 15 minutes.
In fact, Galway could have been 12 points ahead after the first quarter. They had a lot of hand- and kick-passes intercepted at the final juncture. Surprisingly, it was Ian Burke who was the main culprit. He was the only Galway forward not to score in the first half. He put that right in the second half with a neat 1-2. His second point came from a Damien Comer tap-down. He sold a deft sidestep with a bounce and tapped a point over. His goal came from a mazy Shane Walsh run.
Shane is often castigated by the Galway fans because with all his talents, he often misfires in front of goal. Not yesterday. Four points from play with four attempts. He left a few Sligo lads with dust in their eyes zooming by them. He was one of Galway's best performers along with Damien Comer and Tom Flynn.
I thought Sean Kelly was outstanding. He hoovered up huge amounts of breaks and from 1-2 registered from play, his first point was the best.
Sligo's Pat Hughes had moved to wing-forward for all their restarts. He was successful with the first two as Sean Andy O Ceallaigh wasn't sure if he should follow his man so far out. Kelly put that tactic to bed with one play. He out-fielded Pat Hughes in the Galway half-back line. He soldiered forward with purpose. He offloaded the ball, kept his run going, got the ball back, and drilled over a great score. Simple yet stylish. He's going to be hard to shift from the Galway rearguard after yesterday. His pace will be needed against Roscommon because for all Galway's dominance yesterday, there was a lot of space on show for a more potent attack. Sligo kicked 13 wides and created some very scoreable goal chances.
Kevin Walsh will want his defence to answer why Sligo were allowed into the scoring zone so often. This is not a negative on the Galway team or defence. This is a question the players will need to answer honestly because this is where Roscommon will try to hurt us.
Sligo got a lot of breaking ball in the second half. Was this because we were missing Paul Conroy and Ciaran Duggan? Was it a direct result of Tom Flynn going off? Was it that our positioning was wrong under the breaking ball in the second half? Or was it simply a case of the Tribesmen taking the foot slightly off the pedal as they knew Sligo were only playing for pride?
The majority of Ruairi Lavelle's kickouts went long. Galway went short with two at the very end and we scored 1-1 as a direct result. Sligo, yet again, couldn't get a hand on these two penetrating attacks. Gary O'Donnell kicked the point and Damien Comer produced a Joe Canning style 'catch and shot on the turn'. A marksman-style goal.
When Sligo did look threatening there was a lot of space in front of the Galway goal. Kyle Cawley and Adrian Marren won lots of possession off Declan Kyne and David Wynne. Galway will have to work harder on closing these channels for the Connacht final.
Where will it be played? Who cares. The Galway players will want to right the wrongs for last year. They want to wrestle that Nestor Cup back. Kevin McStay says "his team will not be moved". Stay put Kevin, we're coming to you. We respect you as provincial champions, but we don't fear you.
;D Hilarious stuff from Divilly here! According to Dontfoul, Mayo had 27 shots out of 35 attacks compared to Galway's 23 out of 34. This despite Mayo playing with 14 men for 60 per cent of the match. Galway took their chances and deserved to win but 'should have won by at least 7' my hole.
Jesus Divilly must've been jarred writing that crap!!
Quote from: Duine Eile on June 04, 2018, 03:36:13 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 04, 2018, 03:12:54 PM
Out of the country so couldn't make the match, going by the GBFM commentary I know that KW changed around the panel of 26 a bit by giving Molloy, Cummins etc. a jersey, anyone have the full list of the Galway subs?
Off the top of my head AFA, Power, O'Donnell, Duane, Sweeney, Cummins, Daly, Armstrong, Molloy, Frankie Burke, Eoin Finnerty, Conroy. Pity Molloy didn't get a few minutes to show what he can do, we know what the likes of Duane and O'Donnell offer at this stage.
Thanks.
You would imagine that it will be the last opportunity this summer for Galway to "give players a run out" while the game is already done and dusted so a bit of a disappointment that Molloy didn't get a chance, especially when you see the impact Kelly is having.
No point getting too carried away with the result due to the paucity of the opposition challenge but regardless of how poor Sligo were, great to have a really focused, business like performance from Galway making sure to put the match away easily and early.
Much bigger test awaits in Hyde Park, as with last year Roscommon will rightly fancy their chances, that was some hiding Galway got in 2017, nice to have the opportunity to get revenge the following year.
The Connacht title and Super 8 prize is a great one for the victors but Galway have two swings at the getting to the last 8 now, hopefully a huge performance against the Rossies will be enough to get there at the first time of offering.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 04, 2018, 12:57:48 PM
Time to start talking about the Final.
Galway raging favourites naturally so all the pressure on them.
Meanwhile we'll be monitoring the Qualifiers to see who we may meet in Round 4.
Hopefully we can keep the margin to under 20 points anyway.
Gonna have a few bob on ye, all the same.
I was talking to a good friend of Kevin Mac and he reckons morale in the camp is good, rarin' to go.The team is still a bit young but some serious youngsters starting to emerge.
I was told to watch Ultan Harney.
He's gonna develop into one hell of a player and there are a few others heading in the right direction.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 04, 2018, 10:15:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 04, 2018, 12:57:48 PM
Time to start talking about the Final.
Galway raging favourites naturally so all the pressure on them.
Meanwhile we'll be monitoring the Qualifiers to see who we may meet in Round 4.
Hopefully we can keep the margin to under 20 points anyway.
Gonna have a few bob on ye, all the same.
I was talking to a good friend of Kevin Mac and he reckons morale in the camp is good, rarin' to go.The team is still a bit young but some serious youngsters starting to emerge.
I was told to watch Ultan Harney.
He's gonna develop into one hell of a player and there are a few others heading in the right direction.
He's going to take some watching in the fúcking stands, he has a hamstring injury. Embarrassing as usual, Lar.
Quote from: Syferus on June 04, 2018, 10:51:05 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 04, 2018, 10:15:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 04, 2018, 12:57:48 PM
Time to start talking about the Final.
Galway raging favourites naturally so all the pressure on them.
Meanwhile we'll be monitoring the Qualifiers to see who we may meet in Round 4.
Hopefully we can keep the margin to under 20 points anyway.
Gonna have a few bob on ye, all the same.
I was talking to a good friend of Kevin Mac and he reckons morale in the camp is good, rarin' to go.The team is still a bit young but some serious youngsters starting to emerge.
I was told to watch Ultan Harney.
He's gonna develop into one hell of a player and there are a few others heading in the right direction.
He's going to take some watching in the fúcking stands, he has a hamstring injury. Embarrassing as usual, Lar.
He must be the most unfortunate player of all with injuries. He frightened me a few years back at u21 level. So much potential. Hopefully he will have a period without injuries.
Poor Ultan is most unfortunate with injuries.
2nd of May Harney got that injury v Mayo in the Junior championship i can imagine he should be fit to play in this Connacht final.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 04, 2018, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 04, 2018, 10:51:05 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 04, 2018, 10:15:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 04, 2018, 12:57:48 PM
Time to start talking about the Final.
Galway raging favourites naturally so all the pressure on them.
Meanwhile we'll be monitoring the Qualifiers to see who we may meet in Round 4.
Hopefully we can keep the margin to under 20 points anyway.
Gonna have a few bob on ye, all the same.
I was talking to a good friend of Kevin Mac and he reckons morale in the camp is good, rarin' to go.The team is still a bit young but some serious youngsters starting to emerge.
I was told to watch Ultan Harney.
He's gonna develop into one hell of a player and there are a few others heading in the right direction.
He's going to take some watching in the fúcking stands, he has a hamstring injury. Embarrassing as usual, Lar.
He must be the most unfortunate player of all with injuries. He frightened me a few years back at u21 level. So much potential. Hopefully he will have a period without injuries.
Cathal Compton is the same way. He's been great for us since he's got a run of fitness this year, he's made a huge difference in the middle and has freed Enda to play in his more natural position of wing forward. Both lads' injuries woes started with being played too much too young and McStay is probably the first county manager they've had who genuinely is putting their best interests first rather than his own in that regard.
Comp, Harney, the Smiths and Diarmuid Murtagh (Ciarain really only showed his potential when he became a senior) would be the best underage players of their group in the county. Any time they're all on the field together is a good day. Harney's injury isn't too serious so he might make the bench in two weeks, and hopefully he'll be fine for the following game regardless.
The psychology of this match is very interesting. Last year Ros got their preparation spot on and blitzed the Galway backs. They identified the key weaknesses and they attacked them systematically. The match was over halfway through the first half or whatever. A famous day for the primrose and blue. An rud is annamh is iontach. They were on top psychologically from the get go.
Ros also have a number of very good young players. Normal service was of course resumed in the replay against the rhubarbs. Jaysus.
Since then Galway have conceded a single goal in division 1. The winter was a good one. Galway do not want a repeat. The first 10 minutes should determine who is on top.
The prize is Connacht for the next while unless Mayo can find the way to Tir na nOg.
Quote from: Syferus on June 04, 2018, 10:51:05 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 04, 2018, 10:15:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 04, 2018, 12:57:48 PM
Time to start talking about the Final.
Galway raging favourites naturally so all the pressure on them.
Meanwhile we'll be monitoring the Qualifiers to see who we may meet in Round 4.
Hopefully we can keep the margin to under 20 points anyway.
Gonna have a few bob on ye, all the same.
I was talking to a good friend of Kevin Mac and he reckons morale in the camp is good, rarin' to go.The team is still a bit young but some serious youngsters starting to emerge.
I was told to watch Ultan Harney.
He's gonna develop into one hell of a player and there are a few others heading in the right direction.
He's going to take some watching in the fúcking stands, he has a hamstring injury. Embarrassing as usual, Lar.
Syferus, my good friend, I think an apology is in order.
After reading what you had to say, I felt that you have the cop on of a jackass.
Then as reason returned and my emotions calmed down, I realised that I was wrong, totally and completely in error.
So, accordingly, I withdraw that scandalous accusation.
I mean jackasses have their feelings and would certainly be upset by such an invidious comparison.
Where did I mention the Connacht Final or say when the conversation take place?
I had a five minute conversation with an old acquaintance as we sat on adjacent bar stools and had a yap about Connacht football about six weeks ago. He felt Roscommon was a coming team but are very young now. He felt the future for Roscommon football was looking good and mentioned Ultan Harney as one to watch.
That's all.
I can only hope that when you get past puberty, you'll get a bit of sense but, somehow, I doubt it.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 05, 2018, 01:40:24 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 04, 2018, 10:51:05 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 04, 2018, 10:15:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 04, 2018, 12:57:48 PM
Time to start talking about the Final.
Galway raging favourites naturally so all the pressure on them.
Meanwhile we'll be monitoring the Qualifiers to see who we may meet in Round 4.
Hopefully we can keep the margin to under 20 points anyway.
Gonna have a few bob on ye, all the same.
I was talking to a good friend of Kevin Mac and he reckons morale in the camp is good, rarin' to go.The team is still a bit young but some serious youngsters starting to emerge.
I was told to watch Ultan Harney.
He's gonna develop into one hell of a player and there are a few others heading in the right direction.
He's going to take some watching in the fúcking stands, he has a hamstring injury. Embarrassing as usual, Lar.
Syferus, my good friend, I think an apology is in order.
After reading what you had to say, I felt that you have the cop on of a jackass.
Then as reason returned and my emotions calmed down, I realised that I was wrong, totally and completely in error.
So, accordingly, I withdraw that scandalous accusation.
I mean jackasses have their feelings and would certainly be upset by such an invidious comparison.
Where did I mention the Connacht Final or say when the conversation take place?
I had a five minute conversation with an old acquaintance as we sat on adjacent bar stools and had a yap about Connacht football about six weeks ago. He felt Roscommon was a coming team but are very young now. He felt the future for Roscommon football was looking good and mentioned Ultan Harney as one to watch.
That's all.
I can only hope that when you get past puberty, you'll get a bit of sense but, somehow, I doubt it.
Lar - no need to explain yourself. Anyone with an iota of sense knew what you meant. I'd advise ignoring certain posters. It makes reading these threads quicker and less annoying.
Apologies to Lar on behalf of all the sensible Ros posters here.
Our village eejit continues to embarrass.
I can't ever recall Harney been fit for a few months during the championship. Is he about 23/24?
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 05, 2018, 10:26:55 AM
I can't ever recall Harney been fit for a few months during the championship. Is he about 23/24?
He's about the same age as Damien Comer I'd say so yes 23/24. I remember seeing him in an u-21 match in Tuam a couple of years ago and he was one of the best on show that day.
Hes 22 since end of last year. Cant see him been started in the connaght final but hopefully he will be fully fit after that for R4 or the super 8s
That must have been the 2015 shoot out Duine eile?
Quote from: Rossfan on June 05, 2018, 10:06:40 AM
Apologies to Lar on behalf of all the sensible Ros posters here.
Our village eejit continues to embarrass.
No problem Ross, some of the soundest posters on the board are from Roscommon. In all seriousness, I will support your team when my own isn't involved. They deserve great credit for punching above their weight , as the old saying goes. With one of the smallest populations of the Irish counties they can mix it with the best.
Incidentally, I think Ultan Harney is not 23 yet. The time I met my fiend I was told he was only twenty two and a half.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 05, 2018, 10:06:40 AM
Apologies to Lar on behalf of all the sensible Ros posters here.
Our village eejit continues to embarrass.
Do you just steal the words I type and rearrange them, or so you have any original thoughts? Did you ever show much contrition for your insulting antics with McStay last year? Didn't work out quite as you'd hoped over the last twelve months.
shocking performance from us on Sunday, Galway are good but we never laid a hand on them, back to the drawing board. If I was to put a spread on the final it would be Galway by 4.5. Memories of last year will give them an extra bit of bite.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 05, 2018, 11:40:17 AM
That must have been the 2015 shoot out Duine eile?
2015 as one of those years where the quality was very high at that 21 level. Would imagine Roscommon look at the year as one that got away given the quality of that team but likewise Dublin, Tipp & Tyrone were very strong too. That was a decent Galway team too with Comer, Heaney, Brannigan, Kerin & Silke on it.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 05, 2018, 12:26:55 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 05, 2018, 11:40:17 AM
That must have been the 2015 shoot out Duine eile?
2015 as one of those years where the quality was very high at that 21 level. Would imagine Roscommon look at the year as one that got away given the quality of that team but likewise Dublin, Tipp & Tyrone were very strong too. That was a decent Galway team too with Comer, Heaney, Brannigan, Kerin & Silke on it.
2013 or 2016 were much more the ones that got away.
Quote from: sligoman2 on June 05, 2018, 12:09:36 PM
shocking performance from us on Sunday, Galway are good but we never laid a hand on them, back to the drawing board. If I was to out a spread on the final it would be Galway by 4.5. Memories of last year will them an extra bit of bite.
That was the biggest problem for sure. The passivity and lack of aggression in the Sligo team was striking.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 05, 2018, 12:26:55 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 05, 2018, 11:40:17 AM
That must have been the 2015 shoot out Duine eile?
2015 as one of those years where the quality was very high at that 21 level. Would imagine Roscommon look at the year as one that got away given the quality of that team but likewise Dublin, Tipp & Tyrone were very strong too. That was a decent Galway team too with Comer, Heaney, Brannigan, Kerin & Silke on it.
That sounds about right, I remember it being a great game but not much else about it!
No doubt it will be back to the blanket for the rossies.Sligo could have been so much closer but wayward shooting cost them dearly.adrian Marren had the beating of kyne but couldn't get his hands on the ball.roscommon will target him too.roscommon forward unit a lot more potent than mayo and we picked up 3 yellow cards in the back line.what odds Galway will finish with 15?This I think will be the deciding factor in a tight match.
http://connachtgaa.ie/news/ticket-details-connacht-football-final/ Pricey for covered stand tickets at least its only 20€ for standing up which is €5 cheaper than the last few years Connacht finals.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 06, 2018, 06:35:04 PM
http://connachtgaa.ie/news/ticket-details-connacht-football-final/ Pricey for covered stand tickets at least its only 20€ for standing up which is €5 cheaper than the last few years Connacht finals.
Is JP not a benevolent god?
No €5 back for any OAP that wants to sit in the stand is a bit much!
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 06, 2018, 06:35:04 PM
http://connachtgaa.ie/news/ticket-details-connacht-football-final/ Pricey for covered stand tickets at least its only 20€ for standing up which is €5 cheaper than the last few years Connacht finals.
Cheaper than the quarter final against us also, 25/30 that day the robbing c*nts
Only terrace tickets left on Tickets.ie. Surely the uncovered seating hasn't sold out that fast, so I assume the number of them they released to the public was tiny. Given SuperValu outlets just route into the Tickets.ie allocation that means a lot of OAPs and people who shouldn't be left standing and who go for tickets today will end up on the terrace. Pretty daft.
What sort of intinsity will Ros be bringing to this encounter?
Not a lot, saving ourselves for Round 4.
We're said to have given Cork an awful batin in one of them Challenge match thingys.
Ros team announced today.
Same starting 15 as last day buy a few jersey numbers changed about.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2018, 07:36:05 PM
Ros team announced today.
Same starting 15 as last day buy a few jersey numbers changed about.
Its been a while since McStay named a team a week before a game.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 10, 2018, 07:51:56 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2018, 07:36:05 PM
Ros team announced today.
Same starting 15 as last day buy a few jersey numbers changed about.
Its been a while since McStay named a team a week before a game.
It's hard to do it when you're playing weekly in the league..
Connacht final has sold out.
Move it to Castlebar😀
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 10, 2018, 07:51:56 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 10, 2018, 07:36:05 PM
Ros team announced today.
Same starting 15 as last day buy a few jersey numbers changed about.
Its been a while since McStay named a team a week before a game.
First time since last years connacht final..must be superstitious 😊
Not much talk about this game probably arising from a general feeling of anxiety around the County.
Also hard to predict what might happen.
Will the new improved super Galway blow us away like the Rhus did last August?
We'll hardly catch them like we did last year.
We have only played well in spurts in games all year.
Hopefully we'll not get blown away and that our bench will get us over the line in the closing minutes.
Both teams look to have improved from last year, the previous two years of championship form between the sides has shown that you'd be a brave man to be very sure of your prediction for this match given how wildly the result has swung from draw match to Roscommon hammered to Galway hammered.
Roscommon failed to bury Leitrim like Galway did to Sligo
You'd have to say Galway's development has accelerated hugely over the winter and they should win this.
Roscommon actually have a poor record in the Hyde v Galway
Indeed. Must be as far back as 1990 since we bet them there in the Championship?
Then again I think our overall Championship record against them since is 2 wins, 2 draws and 8 defeats.
On the other hand Sundays game will be decided by what happens on the field next Sunday not by the past.
How's the Hyde looking?
Are ye onto the 2nd cut yet?
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 13, 2018, 11:41:09 AM
Roscommon failed to bury Leitrim like Galway did to Sligo
You'd have to say Galway's development has accelerated hugely over the winter and they should win this.
Roscommon actually have a poor record in the Hyde v Galway
Probably more to do with Sligo leaving themselves wide open at the back while Leitrim played defensive with the main aim to keep a clean sheet.
Galway put a lot of energy into the winter and spring months and they could have themselves burnt out by July. Meanwhile Roscommon gained promotion without needing to go all out.
Galway no question have improved especially in defence playing the best teams and players in Div one does that but i'd still fancy the rossies to win but only by the narrowest of margins this time. Key for Roscommon will be to keep 15 men on the field and to be more potent in attack than Mayo were against Galway on May 13th.
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 13, 2018, 12:07:32 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 13, 2018, 11:41:09 AM
Roscommon failed to bury Leitrim like Galway did to Sligo
You'd have to say Galway's development has accelerated hugely over the winter and they should win this.
Roscommon actually have a poor record in the Hyde v Galway
Probably more to do with Sligo leaving themselves wide open at the back while Leitrim played defensive with the main aim to keep a clean sheet.
Galway put a lot of energy into the winter and spring months and they could have themselves burnt out by July. Meanwhile Roscommon gained promotion without needing to go all out.
Galway no question have improved especially in defence playing the best teams and players in Div one does that but i'd still fancy the rossies to win but only by the narrowest of margins this time. Key for Roscommon will be to keep 15 men on the field and to be more potent in attack than Mayo were against Galway on May 13th.
Good job this match is in the middle of June so!
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 13, 2018, 12:15:19 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 13, 2018, 12:07:32 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 13, 2018, 11:41:09 AM
Roscommon failed to bury Leitrim like Galway did to Sligo
You'd have to say Galway's development has accelerated hugely over the winter and they should win this.
Roscommon actually have a poor record in the Hyde v Galway
Probably more to do with Sligo leaving themselves wide open at the back while Leitrim played defensive with the main aim to keep a clean sheet.
Galway put a lot of energy into the winter and spring months and they could have themselves burnt out by July. Meanwhile Roscommon gained promotion without needing to go all out.
Galway no question have improved especially in defence playing the best teams and players in Div one does that but i'd still fancy the rossies to win but only by the narrowest of margins this time. Key for Roscommon will be to keep 15 men on the field and to be more potent in attack than Mayo were against Galway on May 13th.
Good job this match is in the middle of June so!
July football is when Galway will be judged on not Sunday. They have reached a few All Ireland quarter finals in recent years and have gone no further they now need to be reaching All Ireland semi final this summer and then without question they have backed up a good league with a good championship.
Bit odd that it's the only football game on this weekend.
As for the match itself not easy to predict a winner but I don't think they'll be a repeat of Galway in last year's Connacht final where they brought zero intensity and workrate and pretty much stood off Roscommon from the first whistle and let them play and they have some very good forwards in particular if you give them time and space to get their head up, look around and knock the ball about. Defensive systems apart both sets of forwards look superior to most of the backs that will be marking them. Galway probably have a slight edge in midfield but they did last year too and didn't perform in that sector whatsoever either. So whoever gets it tactically right on the day will give themselves a great chance.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 13, 2018, 01:00:00 PM
Bit odd that it's the only football game on this weekend.
Aye, considering there's 3 provincials finals next weekend. Munster Final should be this weekend.
Frank didn't want it interfering with the hurley stuff ;D
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 13, 2018, 12:42:16 PM
July football is when Galway will be judged on not Sunday. They have reached a few All Ireland quarter finals in recent years and have gone no further they now need to be reaching All Ireland semi final this summer and then without question they have backed up a good league with a good championship.
I'm not sold that Galway need to be reaching the all Ireland semi final to have had a good championship. Galway making the last four, given the potential challengers that could comprise the 3 other teams in the round robin, would be an over achievement in my opinion.
They have not performed at all in either of the past two Quarter finals that they made, in fact Galway have been flat, poor in multiple lines of the team and easily beaten.
Given that Division One status was retained in the Spring, the remaining objectives this year are to (a) reach the Super 8s (preferably by winning Connacht next Sunday en route) and (b) perform well in the 3 round robin matches.
If Galway play well and that gets them to a semi final, fantastic. If they don't make it but have performed credibly in the Super 8s then I would consider that a good championship.
If they don't make the Super 8s or perform as badly in it as previous Q-final performances, or suffer from burn out during July as you've speculated, then the championship year will have been a failure overall.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 13, 2018, 01:08:51 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 13, 2018, 12:42:16 PM
July football is when Galway will be judged on not Sunday. They have reached a few All Ireland quarter finals in recent years and have gone no further they now need to be reaching All Ireland semi final this summer and then without question they have backed up a good league with a good championship.
I'm not sold that Galway need to be reaching the all Ireland semi final to have had a good championship. Galway making the last four, given the potential challengers that could comprise the 3 other teams in the round robin, would be an over achievement in my opinion.
They have not performed at all in either of the past two Quarter finals that they made, in fact Galway have been flat, poor in multiple lines of the team and easily beaten.
Given that Division One status was retained in the Spring, the remaining objectives this year are to (a) reach the Super 8s (preferably by winning Connacht next Sunday en route) and (b) perform well in the 3 round robin matches.
If Galway play well and that gets them to a semi final, fantastic. If they don't make it but have performed credibly in the Super 8s then I would consider that a good championship.
If they don't make the Super 8s or perform as badly in it as previous Q-final performances, or suffer from burn out during July as you've speculated, then the championship year will have been a failure overall.
I wouldn't, to be fair. Bar Dublin and perhaps (new, untested) Kerry, I think all other teams are of a muchness. Mayo are in general good enough to be semi-finalists, subject to prior rounds not taking too much out of them. Galway, by dent of their league displays, should be aiming minimally towards a last-4 at this stage. They are still on the improvement curve and personally I think some of their defenders will be badly exposed before the summer is over, but at this point it's hard to argue that there are at least 4 betters teams than them remaining.
Sunday could be about which KW shows up; the conservative one v Mayo, or the one who threw off the shackles v Sligo and produced a scoring blitz. Or as he says himself, Plan A B & C.
Quote from: mouview on June 13, 2018, 02:24:04 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 13, 2018, 01:08:51 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 13, 2018, 12:42:16 PM
July football is when Galway will be judged on not Sunday. They have reached a few All Ireland quarter finals in recent years and have gone no further they now need to be reaching All Ireland semi final this summer and then without question they have backed up a good league with a good championship.
I'm not sold that Galway need to be reaching the all Ireland semi final to have had a good championship. Galway making the last four, given the potential challengers that could comprise the 3 other teams in the round robin, would be an over achievement in my opinion.
They have not performed at all in either of the past two Quarter finals that they made, in fact Galway have been flat, poor in multiple lines of the team and easily beaten.
Given that Division One status was retained in the Spring, the remaining objectives this year are to (a) reach the Super 8s (preferably by winning Connacht next Sunday en route) and (b) perform well in the 3 round robin matches.
If Galway play well and that gets them to a semi final, fantastic. If they don't make it but have performed credibly in the Super 8s then I would consider that a good championship.
If they don't make the Super 8s or perform as badly in it as previous Q-final performances, or suffer from burn out during July as you've speculated, then the championship year will have been a failure overall.
I wouldn't, to be fair. Bar Dublin and perhaps (new, untested) Kerry, I think all other teams are of a muchness. Mayo are in general good enough to be semi-finalists, subject to prior rounds not taking too much out of them. Galway, by dent of their league displays, should be aiming minimally towards a last-4 at this stage. They are still on the improvement curve and personally I think some of their defenders will be badly exposed before the summer is over, but at this point it's hard to argue that there are at least 4 betters teams than them remaining.
Sunday could be about which KW shows up; the conservative one v Mayo, or the one who threw off the shackles v Sligo and produced a scoring blitz. Or as he says himself, Plan A B & C.
Are you seriously questioning what Galway turns up? Against a team that hammered them last year? This Galway team only come out to play when the opposition is vastly inferior as Sligo clearly were. Every other game they clinge to their Ulsterball system for dear life, even in situations where they have a numerical advantage like the league final and the Mayo match.
Maybe the Galway team that were 'unhammered' by Roscommon 2 years ago will show? Galway (KW) tend to be a horse-for-courses team, cutting their cloth according to needs. There was too much at stake v Mayo to allow the game to be open and free-scoring. When they had the extra man, they brought on another forward in place of a defender. Both sides played with most men back that day remember? Ditto the league final, I think Walsh largely wanted a trial run to see how the system ran against Dublin in a big game in CP. That they didn't win ultimately came down to Walsh's conservatism.
To repeat myself, Galway have improved defensively this year, not really because of Paddy Tally, but because they now have 2 ballsy defenders, Sean Andy and Kerin in the FB line, and they have dropped GOD from the HB line.
Which Roscommon team will show up Syf.? The one that hammered Galway last year or the supine one that surrendered to Mayo in the August replay?
Quote from: mouview on June 13, 2018, 03:04:02 PM
Maybe the Galway team that were 'unhammered' by Roscommon 2 years ago will show? Galway (KW) tend to be a horse-for-courses team, cutting their cloth according to needs. There was too much at stake v Mayo to allow the game to be open and free-scoring. When they had the extra man, they brought on another forward in place of a defender. Both sides played with most men back that day remember? Ditto the league final, I think Walsh largely wanted a trial run to see how the system ran against Dublin in a big game in CP. That they didn't win ultimately came down to Walsh's conservatism.
To repeat myself, Galway have improved defensively this year, not really because of Paddy Tally, but because they now have 2 ballsy defenders, Sean Andy and Kerin in the FB line, and they have dropped GOD from the HB line.
Which Roscommon team will show up Syf.? The one that hammered Galway last year or the supine one that surrendered to Mayo in the August replay?
Given we don't have to play the second best team in Ireland for the second time in six days on Sunday with a thread-bare panel, I'm pretty confident which Roscommon team will turn up for the Connacht final.. under McStay this team have rarely been found wanting if given preparation time.
We won't have much preparation time if we make the last 8 ;)
Maybe Syfīn you could just keep quiet for a few days :-X
Sean Andy has certainly improved the stability of the fb line. Eoin Kerin has come on leaps and bounds as a corner back also.
Declan Kyne is there to be got at though which would be a worry. Adrian Marren won a huge amount of ball and kicked 3 from play the last day. I imagine Silke will be moved to the corner next year in his place.
It's a tough game to call.
Quote from: mouview on June 13, 2018, 02:24:04 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 13, 2018, 01:08:51 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 13, 2018, 12:42:16 PM
July football is when Galway will be judged on not Sunday. They have reached a few All Ireland quarter finals in recent years and have gone no further they now need to be reaching All Ireland semi final this summer and then without question they have backed up a good league with a good championship.
I'm not sold that Galway need to be reaching the all Ireland semi final to have had a good championship. Galway making the last four, given the potential challengers that could comprise the 3 other teams in the round robin, would be an over achievement in my opinion.
They have not performed at all in either of the past two Quarter finals that they made, in fact Galway have been flat, poor in multiple lines of the team and easily beaten.
Given that Division One status was retained in the Spring, the remaining objectives this year are to (a) reach the Super 8s (preferably by winning Connacht next Sunday en route) and (b) perform well in the 3 round robin matches.
If Galway play well and that gets them to a semi final, fantastic. If they don't make it but have performed credibly in the Super 8s then I would consider that a good championship.
If they don't make the Super 8s or perform as badly in it as previous Q-final performances, or suffer from burn out during July as you've speculated, then the championship year will have been a failure overall.
I wouldn't, to be fair. Bar Dublin and perhaps (new, untested) Kerry, I think all other teams are of a muchness. Mayo are in general good enough to be semi-finalists, subject to prior rounds not taking too much out of them. Galway, by dent of their league displays, should be aiming minimally towards a last-4 at this stage. They are still on the improvement curve and personally I think some of their defenders will be badly exposed before the summer is over, but at this point it's hard to argue that there are at least 4 betters teams than them remaining.
Sunday could be about which KW shows up; the conservative one v Mayo, or the one who threw off the shackles v Sligo and produced a scoring blitz. Or as he says himself, Plan A B & C.
I don't disagree that in general there are a lot of teams that are much of a muchness but we haven't played at all when reaching the last eight during the past 15 years.
I'd settle for good performances at that stage before worrying about making the semi final, but again that's just my personal opinion. I have a huge worry over the HB line against better opposition this year to be honest, I hope I'm proved wrong.
Quote from: Syferus on June 13, 2018, 02:34:19 PM
Quote from: mouview on June 13, 2018, 02:24:04 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 13, 2018, 01:08:51 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 13, 2018, 12:42:16 PM
July football is when Galway will be judged on not Sunday. They have reached a few All Ireland quarter finals in recent years and have gone no further they now need to be reaching All Ireland semi final this summer and then without question they have backed up a good league with a good championship.
I'm not sold that Galway need to be reaching the all Ireland semi final to have had a good championship. Galway making the last four, given the potential challengers that could comprise the 3 other teams in the round robin, would be an over achievement in my opinion.
They have not performed at all in either of the past two Quarter finals that they made, in fact Galway have been flat, poor in multiple lines of the team and easily beaten.
Given that Division One status was retained in the Spring, the remaining objectives this year are to (a) reach the Super 8s (preferably by winning Connacht next Sunday en route) and (b) perform well in the 3 round robin matches.
If Galway play well and that gets them to a semi final, fantastic. If they don't make it but have performed credibly in the Super 8s then I would consider that a good championship.
If they don't make the Super 8s or perform as badly in it as previous Q-final performances, or suffer from burn out during July as you've speculated, then the championship year will have been a failure overall.
I wouldn't, to be fair. Bar Dublin and perhaps (new, untested) Kerry, I think all other teams are of a muchness. Mayo are in general good enough to be semi-finalists, subject to prior rounds not taking too much out of them. Galway, by dent of their league displays, should be aiming minimally towards a last-4 at this stage. They are still on the improvement curve and personally I think some of their defenders will be badly exposed before the summer is over, but at this point it's hard to argue that there are at least 4 betters teams than them remaining.
Sunday could be about which KW shows up; the conservative one v Mayo, or the one who threw off the shackles v Sligo and produced a scoring blitz. Or as he says himself, Plan A B & C.
Are you seriously questioning what Galway turns up? Against a team that hammered them last year? This Galway team only come out to play when the opposition is vastly inferior as Sligo clearly were. Every other game they clinge to their Ulsterball system for dear life, even in situations where they have a numerical advantage like the league final and the Mayo match.
Against a team that they annihilated two years ago going man to man? On the one actual dry normal day the two sides have played? It'll have to be on Walsh's mind that the one time these teams pushed up on each other was the day Galway were dominant. You can't have monsoon conditions playing that game however, or a straight downfield wind like the Mayo game or the drawn 2016 game where each team mimics each other. I'd imagine on a normal dry day Walsh will be willing to wager his backs will can prevent disaster just slightly better than their counterparts.
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July football is when Galway will be judged on not Sunday. They have reached a few All Ireland quarter finals in recent years and have gone no further they now need to be reaching All Ireland semi final this summer and then without question they have backed up a good league with a good championship.
I'm not sold that Galway need to be reaching the all Ireland semi final to have had a good championship. Galway making the last four, given the potential challengers that could comprise the 3 other teams in the round robin, would be an over achievement in my opinion.
They have not performed at all in either of the past two Quarter finals that they made, in fact Galway have been flat, poor in multiple lines of the team and easily beaten.
Given that Division One status was retained in the Spring, the remaining objectives this year are to (a) reach the Super 8s (preferably by winning Connacht next Sunday en route) and (b) perform well in the 3 round robin matches.
If Galway play well and that gets them to a semi final, fantastic. If they don't make it but have performed credibly in the Super 8s then I would consider that a good championship.
If they don't make the Super 8s or perform as badly in it as previous Q-final performances, or suffer from burn out during July as you've speculated, then the championship year will have been a failure overall.
I wouldn't, to be fair. Bar Dublin and perhaps (new, untested) Kerry, I think all other teams are of a muchness. Mayo are in general good enough to be semi-finalists, subject to prior rounds not taking too much out of them. Galway, by dent of their league displays, should be aiming minimally towards a last-4 at this stage. They are still on the improvement curve and personally I think some of their defenders will be badly exposed before the summer is over, but at this point it's hard to argue that there are at least 4 betters teams than them remaining.
Sunday could be about which KW shows up; the conservative one v Mayo, or the one who threw off the shackles v Sligo and produced a scoring blitz. Or as he says himself, Plan A B & C.
Are you seriously questioning what Galway turns up? Against a team that hammered them last year? This Galway team only come out to play when the opposition is vastly inferior as Sligo clearly were. Every other game they clinge to their Ulsterball system for dear life, even in situations where they have a numerical advantage like the league final and the Mayo match.
Against a team that they annihilated two years ago going man to man? On the one actual dry normal day the two sides have played? It'll have to be on Walsh's mind that the one time these teams pushed up on each other was the day Galway were dominant. You can't have monsoon conditions playing that game however, or a straight downfield wind like the Mayo game or the drawn 2016 game where each team mimics each other. I'd imagine on a normal dry day Walsh will be willing to wager his backs will can prevent disaster just slightly better than their counterparts.
You're clutching at straws trying to pretend Ulsterball isn't the template for Walsh in all major games. The replay in 2016 would have been much the same had we not let the game get away from us early much the same as Sligo did.
I don't know why people want to pretend this Galway team is something it clearly isn't. You play tough physical, at times openly dirty, and very defensive (and defensively sound) football. That's not necessarily a bad thing for Galway, but it is for the sport in general if they're supposed to the new hottest thing on the market.
Syferus, you can't deny there's been occasions on faster ground when opposing teams have been able to run through us like a dose of salts, often due to a lack of physique or pace on our part in the backs. In 2016, it was Kerry putting 3 past us in league semi, Galway 3 in Connacht replay, in 2017 it was Mayo putting 4 past us in qtr final replay, and this year Cavan putting 4 past us in the Div 2 league final. Only on one occasion were we still able to score more on the other end, versus Cavan. So I hope and trust that McStay will not assume Galway will go Ulster and hope to win this 13 points to 11. If he did, it would increase our chances of winning IMO. He may well look at our weakest link and decide to try and exploit that in early stages of game in the belief that Galway forwards can do more damage against our backs, than we can theirs. Might be an old fashioned Connacht tie.
I still back us to win. I stood on the embankment in 1990 when we last beat Galway in Hyde Park. Hard to believe 28 years later we are waiting for our first championship win at home to the Tribes. I am confident we now have the team to do this - even if the experts and bookies are not convinced.
Donegal and Kerry games last year Syferus? Are you noticing a trend? Dry days little wind he pushes up (wish he hadn't left us so exposed vs Kerry tbh). Days with the wind he retreats as the opposition can't score against the wind vs a blanket so he retreats and hopes to catch them on the break. Opposition usually mimics and you get these awful handpassing games. You can't maintain it Ulsterball though when every dry calm day in the last 3 seasons he's pushed up (Tipp, Ros, Donegal, Kerry, Sligo) and every poor or windy weather day has turned defensive (Mayo x3, Ros)
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Donegal and Kerry games last year Syferus? Are you noticing a trend? Dry days little wind he pushes up (wish he hadn't left us so exposed vs Kerry tbh). Days with the wind he retreats as the opposition can't score against the wind vs a blanket so he retreats and hopes to catch them on the break. Opposition usually mimics and you get these awful handpassing games. You can't maintain it Ulsterball though when every dry calm day in the last 3 seasons he's pushed up (Tipp, Ros, Donegal, Kerry, Sligo) and every poor or windy weather day has turned defensive (Mayo x3, Ros)
Your telling us Kevin Walsh waits until an hour or two before a game to see what the weather is like before deciding what way to play? What do the players do in preparation for games the weeks before a game if the tactic is going to be decided by what wind is out
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Donegal and Kerry games last year Syferus? Are you noticing a trend? Dry days little wind he pushes up (wish he hadn't left us so exposed vs Kerry tbh). Days with the wind he retreats as the opposition can't score against the wind vs a blanket so he retreats and hopes to catch them on the break. Opposition usually mimics and you get these awful handpassing games. You can't maintain it Ulsterball though when every dry calm day in the last 3 seasons he's pushed up (Tipp, Ros, Donegal, Kerry, Sligo) and every poor or windy weather day has turned defensive (Mayo x3, Ros)
Your telling us Kevin Walsh waits until an hour or two before a game to see what the weather is like before deciding what way to play? What do the players do in preparation for games the weeks before a game if the tactic is going to be decided by what wind is out
And if it starts raining mid game tactics are out the window altogether
Darragh O'Se in the times yesterday
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-galway-s-defensive-system-must-serve-interests-of-their-forwards-1.3528229
There was a fella back in west Kerry years ago who was known as The Cricket. He was always talking about the crickets – by which he meant critics, although I'm not sure he knew one way or the other whether there was any difference.
"Don't mind the crickets, Sé," he'd say to you after you might have had a bad game and people were giving out about you. "The crickets will always have something to be going on about."
I came up against Kevin Walsh a good few times when we were back in our playing days. He was big and awkward to get around and didn't stand for any messing. The very last thing he will ever have on his mind is the crickets, even though there are plenty of them around these days.
Does he hear people giving out about Galway's defensive style of play? Probably. Does he care? Not for a second. Let the crickets have their say, it means nothing to him.
People will always complain, regardless of what you do. I remember walking out of Croke Park after the 2014 All-Ireland final with Kerry just after lifting Sam Maguire. It was a poor game but sure what about it? The year was over, the All-Ireland was won and we'd lost enough epics to last a lifetime. And yet who did I meet on my way out of Croke Park? A Kerry fella who said: "We're going nowhere with that Kerry team."
Galway are a coming team, that's obvious to everyone. They're fast, they're physical, they're very difficult to play against. Even just those three things put together should be enough to carry you past most teams in the country and should definitely be enough to see you into the Super 8s. Whether or not Galway go any further than that depends on what use they can make of their most skilful players.
The team Walsh was a part of made the most out of their flair players. That Galway team was all about getting the ball to Pádraic Joyce, Michael Donnellan, Ja Fallon, with Declan Meehan and Seán Óg de Paor bombing on from the wings. They had bags of talent and serious pace and were beautiful to watch in full flow. The rest of the team played to serve those lads with the ball and no better man than Kevin Walsh to lead that effort.
Football has changed in the 20 years since they won their first All-Ireland but I think it still holds true that if you're going to win an All-Ireland, you need to set up your team so that the hod-carriers are working in service of your best players. For Galway, those guys are the likes of Damien Comer, Shane Walsh, Eamon Brannigan and Seán Armstrong. I'd worry in the long run that their defensive system calls on these guys to do too much donkey work. Against the better teams, that's going to leave them short at the other end.
More defensive
There's no question but that Galway needed to develop a better way of defending than they had previously. They were beaten far too easily when they got to Croke Park in recent years and there's no future in that for any decent team. If a team is poor defensively, you can't be giving out about them addressing the problem. What's the alternative?
I was at Kerry's game against Clare there a couple of weeks ago and I saw Clare line up man-for-man with no sweepers, no blanket defence, no nothing really. And it was a lovely game to watch altogether, with a fast, young Kerry team happily running up a score of 0-32. But was it the right thing for Clare to do? Not from where I was sitting. They looked totally naïve to me, in that they didn't do anything to address the problems that would be caused by Kerry's forwards having lots of space.
So I don't really have any major issue with Galway going more defensive. They're getting a bit of grief for it but they had to do something. They couldn't arrive back to Croke Park with the same defensive set-up they had last year and the year before. Kieran Donaghy had them beaten after 15 minutes in last year's All-Ireland quarter-final. If that doesn't make you sit down over the winter and come up with something different, you have no business being in charge.
The reason they get a bit of grief over it is the quality of the players they have going forward. Shane Walsh can be infuriating at times. He has so much ability, class and craft that you see him sometimes and you wonder why he isn't an automatic All Star every year.
He kicked a free against Kerry in the league match this year that had to be seen to be believed. He kicked it off the ground with his left leg with a style that I haven't seen in anyone since Maurice Fitzgerald.
But Galway's return from Shane Walsh's ability is just too low. They don't get enough bang for his buck. He is electric when he's running the ball but what use is that to Galway if he is collecting possession in his own half-back line? The knock-on effect of it is that he sometimes overcomplicates things when he does find himself in position within reach of the goal. He sometimes looks like he is trying to show what he can do – maybe because he has spent too much time doing the mundane stuff back in defence.
When I marked Seán Cavanagh in the 2005 All-Ireland final, it took me a while to work out that he had been given special licence by Mickey Harte, excusing him from chasing back into the defence
There were a couple of games in the league where even Damien Comer found himself back in the Galway defence putting in tackles and breaking up the play. You didn't see him do that against Dublin or against Mayo so they've obviously told him it's not on his to-do list. You can see him growing by the game as a result.
Comer is a prime example of what is possible for Galway. He is loving being the leader of their attack. You can see it in him – he wants the responsibility, he wants the opposition to come up with plans especially for him. One marker, two markers, a sweeper in front – bring it on, lads. Whatever ye have, bring it on.
Transfer market
You'd pay a lot in any transfer market for someone with that attitude added to that physical strength. Galway have a unique asset in Comer so it's vital they use him properly. He scored a point against Mayo and then chased back after the kick-out, hunting down fellas for 70 yards all the way back into the defence.
I would hope that someone took him aside afterwards and said: "Fair play Damien, great effort, great honesty – now never do that again."
He has to be excused all the tracking back and getting in defensive formation. The system has to be designed to let him do damage where it matters. If he finds himself 70 yards from goal marking a zone, then the system hasn't worked.
Defensive systems come in two forms – one designed to contain the opposition and one designed to give you a platform to attack. When people were giving out about Tyrone's blanket defence away back in the 2000s, they were totally missing the point. I played against those teams and there was far more to them than just getting men behind the ball.
When I marked Seán Cavanagh in the 2005 All-Ireland final, it took me a while to work out that he had been given special licence by Mickey Harte, excusing him from chasing back into the defence. Any time he went forward, I would be doing my duty and going with him stride for stride. But when the boot was on the other foot, he stayed put in midfield and waited for the ball to come to him.
Trying to play against that was a bit unsettling. You had an advantage going forward with the ball because you'd lost your man. But you also knew you had to make it count. Half the idea from their point of view was for me to think I was away in a hack. They wanted me bombing on so that when they got a turn over, Cavanagh was on his own in the middle of the pitch and the counter-attack was on straight away.
For Galway to survive against the better teams in Croke Park, they need to give the likes of Comer and Walsh that sort of licence. That defensive style they've developed has to be a springboard for their forwards, who have more pace to burn than most teams.
I noticed when they were talking about the big job they've done on Dr Hyde Park that they've made it exactly the same size as Croke Park
Dublin have shown time and time against Tyrone, Monaghan and Donegal that there is no point coming to Croke Park looking to frustrate them and get men behind the ball. Galway have too many good players for that.
The Connacht final against Roscommon on Sunday will give them a really good idea of where they stand. I'm told the Rossies gave Cork a good trimming in a challenge game recently and Kevin McStay is too clever a coach to just send his players running down blind alleys.
I noticed when they were talking about the big job they've done on Dr Hyde Park that they've made it exactly the same size as Croke Park. You'd expect Roscommon to use every bit of it to try and drag the Galway players out of position. If they can do that and if they can be patient and take their scores, I would give the Rossies a good chance on Sunday.
The crickets would be fairly out for Kevin Walsh then!
Galway here Galway there Galway everywhere :D ;D
Keep it going.......
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Connacht final has sold out.
Only sold out on the first allocation batch. More tickets on sale today.
Are they returns from Galway?
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Galway here Galway there Galway everywhere :D ;D
Keep it going.......
We are mentioned in two short paragraphs at the end there! ;) ;)
KW will no doubt have motivational material to remind the lads of where complacency can lead in matches against Riscommon
https://youtu.be/1q6otO_GLTY
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0614/970459-rossies-in-confident-mood-hosting-final-in-the-hyde/
Roscommon coach Liam McHale feels the surroundings of Dr Hyde Park will bring peace of mind and confidence to their players and give them a big chance to retain their Connacht Football Championship title.
The Rossies are in good stead after winning Division 2 and beating Leitrim in a provincial semi-final, and received clearance to play the provincial decider in their home venue.
Speaking about that decision, McHale said: "It's huge for us. We're a young team, an improving team. There was a bit of controversy and a bit of banter. We were worried it wouldn't be here.
"Two years ago we went to Salthill and got a draw. We went to Castlebar because we didn't have this lovely venue here to play in and we got beaten by nine or 10 points by Galway. For confidence levels and for ease of mind and peace of mind for the players, I think it will be massive on Sunday.
"We all know how good Galway are and the improvements they have made as well"
"The enthusiasm has been fantastic all year. We won Division 2, we were delighted with that, we didn't play really well. It seemed to be a slow burner and that's the way we wanted it to be. The last few weeks we have been really playing well. It's a very young team but they are very skilful. They are very humble and hungry and they are really looking forward to Sunday.
"We all know how good Galway are and the improvements they have made as well. We feel that here especially, and that's how important this venue is to us, that we have a really good chance of retaining our Connacht title."
Last year manager Kevin McStay and McHale were under pressure going into the Championship after a disastrous League season, but turned things around to win Connacht.
It's a different story this time round and it's one the Roscommon coach knows brings its own challenge.
"We had such a rough league campaign prior to the Connacht final last year and took some really bad beatings. Nobody gave us a chance and maybe that filtered into the brains of the Galway players.
"This year it's a different kettle of fish. Both teams will realise this is a 50-50 game and if you don't bring your 'A' game on Sunday, the chances are you are going to lose. We're building up to a big performance on Sunday and if that goes well we have a great chance. If it doesn't we'll probably be beaten because we're playing a really good side in Galway.
"Our shot selection against Galway's defence has to be very good. We can't afford to kick 11 or 12 wides"
"We have to be very solid in the middle of the field. Our midfield, half-back and half-forward line has got a fair bit of criticism over the last two years. We need be really competitive as we were in the Connacht final last year and fight for every ball.
"Our shot selection against Galway's defence has to be very good. We can't afford to kick 11 or 12 wides. Our wides have to be down to four or fives and we have to be disciplined on the defence and not give away easy frees or goals.
"I've been around a long time, I've played for a long time and I've coached in Connacht for a long time. I'm normally at ease once the work is done. I think we were okay in the league and there has been a steady progression. The confidence is building all the time."
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KW will no doubt have motivational material to remind the lads of where complacency can lead in matches against Riscommon
https://youtu.be/1q6otO_GLTY
I'm not going to click on that link.
Quote from: seafoid on June 14, 2018, 12:14:00 PM
KW will no doubt have motivational material to remind the lads of where complacency can lead in matches against Riscommon
https://youtu.be/1q6otO_GLTY
complacency? you do realize there has been little between the majority of these current Roscommon and Galway players at U21 level..
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Quote from: seafoid on June 14, 2018, 12:14:00 PM
KW will no doubt have motivational material to remind the lads of where complacency can lead in matches against Riscommon
https://youtu.be/1q6otO_GLTY
complacency? you do realize there has been little between the majority of these current Roscommon and Galway players at U21 level..
Complacency won't be an issue. If we lose it won't be down to that. Roscommon are a good team as they are all well aware.
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Quote from: seafoid on June 14, 2018, 12:14:00 PM
KW will no doubt have motivational material to remind the lads of where complacency can lead in matches against Riscommon
https://youtu.be/1q6otO_GLTY
complacency? you do realize there has been little between the majority of these current Roscommon and Galway players at U21 level..
Complacency won't be an issue. If we lose it won't be down to that. Roscommon are a good team as they are all well aware.
Some might say they're verifiably the best team in Connacht..
Galway team named:
Ruairí Lavelle
Declan Kyne
Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
David Wynne
Cathal Sweeney
Gareth Bradshaw
Johnny Heaney
Paul Conroy
Tom Flynn
Eamonn Brannigan
Barry McHugh
Seán Kelly
Ian Burke
Damien Comer (C)
Shane Walsh
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 14, 2018, 01:23:55 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 14, 2018, 12:14:00 PM
KW will no doubt have motivational material to remind the lads of where complacency can lead in matches against Riscommon
https://youtu.be/1q6otO_GLTY
complacency? you do realize there has been little between the majority of these current Roscommon and Galway players at U21 level..
the only difference really was that Galway won a few of the u21 finals they played in.
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Galway team named:
Ruairí Lavelle
Declan Kyne
Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
David Wynne
Cathal Sweeney
Gareth Bradshaw
Johnny Heaney
Paul Conroy
Tom Flynn
Eamonn Brannigan
Barry McHugh
Seán Kelly
Ian Burke
Damien Comer (C)
Shane Walsh
No Kerin is significant I feel as with Silke already missing, Galway are now without both their starting corner-backs and there's a bit of a drop off to the next two.
See he's gone with Conroy and Flynn in midfield. Seems like he still hasn't settled on the favoured combination there with Cooke and Duggan having also started games. Got some options at least.
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Galway team named:
Ruairí Lavelle
Declan Kyne
Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
David Wynne
Cathal Sweeney
Gareth Bradshaw
Johnny Heaney
Paul Conroy
Tom Flynn
Eamonn Brannigan
Barry McHugh
Seán Kelly
Ian Burke
Damien Comer (C)
Shane Walsh
No Kerin is significant I feel as with Silke already missing, Galway are now without both their starting corner-backs and there's a bit of a drop off to the next two.
If Kerin doesn't start that's a massive blow.
Both corner backs were well beaten by their men against Sligo and have a history of being under pressure when up against decent forwards.
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Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2018, 02:00:30 PM
Galway team named:
Ruairí Lavelle
Declan Kyne
Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
David Wynne
Cathal Sweeney
Gareth Bradshaw
Johnny Heaney
Paul Conroy
Tom Flynn
Eamonn Brannigan
Barry McHugh
Seán Kelly
Ian Burke
Damien Comer (C)
Shane Walsh
No Kerin is significant I feel as with Silke already missing, Galway are now without both their starting corner-backs and there's a bit of a drop off to the next two.
I thought Silke played wing half back last year? Wynne started the 2016 Connacht final so a more than decent replacement for Kerin if he doesn't play.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 14, 2018, 02:10:40 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2018, 02:00:30 PM
Galway team named:
Ruairí Lavelle
Declan Kyne
Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
David Wynne
Cathal Sweeney
Gareth Bradshaw
Johnny Heaney
Paul Conroy
Tom Flynn
Eamonn Brannigan
Barry McHugh
Seán Kelly
Ian Burke
Damien Comer (C)
Shane Walsh
No Kerin is significant I feel as with Silke already missing, Galway are now without both their starting corner-backs and there's a bit of a drop off to the next two.
Certainly a huge loss. Flynn again gets the nod, needs a big game from him. Conroy needs a big game too, against the Dubs his shooting and kick passing was very poor and he didn't do much for the half hour he was on against Mayo; The pair of them have Duggan & Cooke breathing down their necks.
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Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 14, 2018, 02:10:40 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2018, 02:00:30 PM
Galway team named:
Ruairí Lavelle
Declan Kyne
Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
David Wynne
Cathal Sweeney
Gareth Bradshaw
Johnny Heaney
Paul Conroy
Tom Flynn
Eamonn Brannigan
Barry McHugh
Seán Kelly
Ian Burke
Damien Comer (C)
Shane Walsh
No Kerin is significant I feel as with Silke already missing, Galway are now without both their starting corner-backs and there's a bit of a drop off to the next two.
Certainly a huge loss. Flynn again gets the nod, needs a big game from him. Conroy needs a big game too, against the Dubs his shooting and kick passing was very poor and he didn't do much for the half hour he was on against Mayo; The pair of them have Duggan & Cooke breathing down their necks.
Lads, if I'm not mistaken that's just the published team from the Sligo game, which didn't even start that game. I don't think that announced team is worth the HTML tags it was made with.
Ros are 3/1
https://www.oddschecker.com/gaelic-games/gaelic-football
Surely Syf will put the house on
We'll obviously be wasting our time turning up :o
Quote from: Syferus on June 14, 2018, 02:24:28 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 14, 2018, 02:22:29 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 14, 2018, 02:10:40 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 14, 2018, 02:00:30 PM
Galway team named:
Ruairí Lavelle
Declan Kyne
Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh
David Wynne
Cathal Sweeney
Gareth Bradshaw
Johnny Heaney
Paul Conroy
Tom Flynn
Eamonn Brannigan
Barry McHugh
Seán Kelly
Ian Burke
Damien Comer (C)
Shane Walsh
No Kerin is significant I feel as with Silke already missing, Galway are now without both their starting corner-backs and there's a bit of a drop off to the next two.
Certainly a huge loss. Flynn again gets the nod, needs a big game from him. Conroy needs a big game too, against the Dubs his shooting and kick passing was very poor and he didn't do much for the half hour he was on against Mayo; The pair of them have Duggan & Cooke breathing down their necks.
Lads, if I'm not mistaken that's just the published team from the Sligo game, which didn't even start that game. I don't think that announced team is worth the HTML tags it was made with.
I hope you are right. Though to be fair there was only one change from the published team to the team that started.
Conroy replaced by Cooke. I know from talking to a member of the panel that Conroy was named as they were waiting until Sunday morning to decide if he would make it or not as he was 50-50.
At least Galway have decent competition for places now. There are a lot of good forwards who can't make the team, for example.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0614/970459-rossies-in-confident-mood-hosting-final-in-the-hyde/
Quote from: seafoid on June 14, 2018, 12:14:00 PM
KW will no doubt have motivational material to remind the lads of where complacency can lead in matches against Riscommon
https://youtu.be/1q6otO_GLTY
Well, if ye use Willie Hegarty for inpiration, that would make me confident.
Kerin's a massive loss. The best defender there in the spot with the least cover. Wouldn't be surprised to see a change around the middle, possibly McHugh dropping out and Cooke/Duggan coming in
Quote from: Manning18 on June 14, 2018, 03:50:55 PM
Kerin's a massive loss. The best defender there in the spot with the least cover. Wouldn't be surprised to see a change around the middle, possibly McHugh dropping out and Cooke/Duggan coming in
There is zero chance of McHugh being dropped with his free taking ability.
Quote from: galwayman on June 14, 2018, 03:52:33 PM
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Kerin's a massive loss. The best defender there in the spot with the least cover. Wouldn't be surprised to see a change around the middle, possibly McHugh dropping out and Cooke/Duggan coming in
There is zero chance of McHugh being dropped with his free taking ability.
He was quite happy to give him basically zero minutes in last years championship despite playing the full league and being fully fit. One more fixture in the inside line now with Burke who wasn't there for Mayo. We'll see
Quote from: weareros on June 14, 2018, 03:48:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 14, 2018, 12:14:00 PM
KW will no doubt have motivational material to remind the lads of where complacency can lead in matches against Riscommon
https://youtu.be/1q6otO_GLTY
Well, if ye use Willie Hegarty for inpiration, that would make me confident.
Presumably Ros will have been working on whatever gaps there were last year too. 3 Connacht teams in the Super 8 would be good.
I can't see Sligo making the last 8.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 14, 2018, 04:29:32 PM
I can't see Sligo making the last 8.
Leitrim are still in with a shout.
What's the story with Kerin? How long is he out for?
Quote from: Rossfan on June 14, 2018, 04:29:32 PM
I can't see Sligo making the last 8.
He means Leitrim I think.
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Quote from: galwayman on June 14, 2018, 03:52:33 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on June 14, 2018, 03:50:55 PM
Kerin's a massive loss. The best defender there in the spot with the least cover. Wouldn't be surprised to see a change around the middle, possibly McHugh dropping out and Cooke/Duggan coming in
There is zero chance of McHugh being dropped with his free taking ability.
He was quite happy to give him basically zero minutes in last years championship despite playing the full league and being fully fit. One more fixture in the inside line now with Burke who wasn't there for Mayo. We'll see
I'd agree with galwayman here, Shane Walsh missed a 13 metre tap over free against Sligo whereas McHugh is money from frees every time and has improved his overall play a good bit since 2017. I'll be shocked if he's fit to play and doesn't start.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 15, 2018, 03:04:58 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on June 14, 2018, 04:09:57 PM
Quote from: galwayman on June 14, 2018, 03:52:33 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on June 14, 2018, 03:50:55 PM
Kerin's a massive loss. The best defender there in the spot with the least cover. Wouldn't be surprised to see a change around the middle, possibly McHugh dropping out and Cooke/Duggan coming in
There is zero chance of McHugh being dropped with his free taking ability.
He was quite happy to give him basically zero minutes in last years championship despite playing the full league and being fully fit. One more fixture in the inside line now with Burke who wasn't there for Mayo. We'll see
I'd agree with galwayman here, Shane Walsh missed a 13 metre tap over free against Sligo whereas McHugh is money from frees every time and has improved his overall play a good bit since 2017. I'll be shocked if he's fit to play and doesn't start.
Agree, McHugh won't be dropped. The way Comer plays he's going to draw scorable frees and you're nearly guaranteed a score when McHugh is standing over them.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 15, 2018, 03:04:58 PM
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Quote from: galwayman on June 14, 2018, 03:52:33 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on June 14, 2018, 03:50:55 PM
Kerin's a massive loss. The best defender there in the spot with the least cover. Wouldn't be surprised to see a change around the middle, possibly McHugh dropping out and Cooke/Duggan coming in
There is zero chance of McHugh being dropped with his free taking ability.
He was quite happy to give him basically zero minutes in last years championship despite playing the full league and being fully fit. One more fixture in the inside line now with Burke who wasn't there for Mayo. We'll see
I'd agree with galwayman here, Shane Walsh missed a 13 metre tap over free against Sligo whereas McHugh is money from frees every time and has improved his overall play a good bit since 2017. I'll be shocked if he's fit to play and doesn't start.
Its not my opinion on him, more what I think KW might do. If they're truly committed to playing Comer inside, as it looks like they are, then with Burke there also you have to remove McHugh out to wing forward and the tracking back that entails. He loves pace in his breakers from deep. I think he'll play but if there is a change and a third midfielder comes in, I'd strongly wager that McHugh will be the one to lose out, rightly or wrongly
Stolen sheep forum is just adorable at the moment. Absolute indignation over Galway getting the bulk of the media coverage. Shocking stuff that a small GAA county with one big win in 8 years has a low media profile...
Quote from: Manning18 on June 16, 2018, 08:29:46 AM
Stolen sheep forum is just adorable at the moment. Absolute indignation over Galway getting the bulk of the media coverage. Shocking stuff that a small GAA county with one big win in 8 years has a low media profile...
three games in two years
1 draw, 1 win Galway, 1 win Roscommon.
don't know how the pundits and bookies are going for Galway
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/roscommon-well-capable-of-springing-another-ambush-on-galway-1.3531947
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 16, 2018, 08:54:33 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on June 16, 2018, 08:29:46 AM
Stolen sheep forum is just adorable at the moment. Absolute indignation over Galway getting the bulk of the media coverage. Shocking stuff that a small GAA county with one big win in 8 years has a low media profile...
three games in two years
1 draw, 1 win Galway, 1 win Roscommon.
don't know how the pundits and bookies are going for Galway
Game is 50/50 but the bookies have left Roscommon as a superb value bet at 9/4 in a two horse race, I think the odds were much the same last year so I'd have expected home advantage to shorten that number slightly but it hasn't happened.
There's a few pundits going for Roscommon, Collie Moran, David Brady, Malachy Clerkin's article in the IT today reads like he expects a Rossie win.
I think Peter Canavan was about the only one who went for Roscommon 12 months ago, he's plumped for Galway this go around.
I'd imagine Ros are happy with all the focus on Galway to be fair. I find it hard to call. Galway after their league campaign in Divisiom 1 would be slight favourites for that reason only. They struggled to put us away despite playing with an extra man for most of the game. Thrn they shot the lights out against Sligo. Ros on the other hand will have targeted this game all year. With all due respect to Leitrim , they were never going to win. I'll give Galway the nod, but it will be close.
Galway by 6 with their superior fire power
2 coming teams with maybe Galway a bit further ahead. Ros will have the motivation. Should be a good match.
Quote from: Manning18 on June 16, 2018, 08:29:46 AM
Stolen sheep forum is just adorable at the moment. Absolute indignation over Galway getting the bulk of the media coverage. Shocking stuff that a small GAA county with one big win in 8 years has a low media profile...
And meanwhile in those 8 years the Galway footballers have done what exactly
Quote from: Orchard park on June 16, 2018, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on June 16, 2018, 08:29:46 AM
Stolen sheep forum is just adorable at the moment. Absolute indignation over Galway getting the bulk of the media coverage. Shocking stuff that a small GAA county with one big win in 8 years has a low media profile...
And meanwhile in those 8 years the Galway footballers have done what exactly
2 U 21 and a2 club all Ireland's
Mol an óige agus tiocfaidh sí
Quote from: JoG2 on June 16, 2018, 10:41:36 AM
Galway by 6 with their superior fire power
I don't believe Galway have superior fire power, the two forward lines are on par however Galways forward line will likely be up against a loose marking defence while the Roscommon forward line won't be given the same time and room on the ball. It all points to Galway win but and there is always a but shocks happen and a few has already happened this year Fermanagh v Monaghan,Carlow v Kildare and I always love to see a good underdog win and I can imagine we'll see some fantastic scenes on the field afterwards if Roscommon mange to win in front of their own supporters against the odds.
Quote from: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on June 16, 2018, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on June 16, 2018, 08:29:46 AM
Stolen sheep forum is just adorable at the moment. Absolute indignation over Galway getting the bulk of the media coverage. Shocking stuff that a small GAA county with one big win in 8 years has a low media profile...
And meanwhile in those 8 years the Galway footballers have done what exactly
2 U 21 and a2 club all Ireland's
Mol an óige agus tiocfaidh sí
One of those U21 All Irelands (2013) they could easily have lost to Roscommon in the Connacht final. Brigids won 1 club All Ireland and they took Corofin to extra time this season before Corofin went on to win their 2nd AI
Hasn't been a lot between Galway and Roscommon over the last decade.
Both have won 2 senior Connacht titles. Roscommon won 4 U21 Connachts, Galway won 3, at minor Connacht titles won is Roscommon 2 and Galway 3.
This year was Galways first year to play in Div 1 for 6 years while next year will be Roscommons 3rd year in Div one in the last 4 years.
Quote from: Manning18 on June 16, 2018, 08:29:46 AM
Stolen sheep forum is just adorable at the moment. Absolute indignation over Galway getting the bulk of the media coverage. Shocking stuff that a small GAA county with one big win in 8 years has a low media profile...
Your English comprehension must be extremely poor to get this take from that forum.
Cry me a river.
Roscommon,reigning Connacht Champions beating Galway would certainly NOT be a shock.
It would be a very nice half expected win.
It's all to play for and if our shaky defence put in a good shift we can win it.
I'd be happy that if we're neck and neck going into the last 10 then our bench can get us over the line.
(Of course I'd be much happier if we're 10 points up at that stage...... ;D)
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 16, 2018, 01:01:01 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on June 16, 2018, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on June 16, 2018, 08:29:46 AM
Stolen sheep forum is just adorable at the moment. Absolute indignation over Galway getting the bulk of the media coverage. Shocking stuff that a small GAA county with one big win in 8 years has a low media profile...
And meanwhile in those 8 years the Galway footballers have done what exactly
2 U 21 and a2 club all Ireland's
Mol an óige agus tiocfaidh sí
One of those U21 All Irelands (2013) they could easily have lost to Roscommon in the Connacht final. Brigids won 1 club All Ireland and they took Corofin to extra time this season before Corofin went on to win their 2nd AI
Hasn't been a lot between Galway and Roscommon over the last decade.
Both have won 2 senior Connacht titles. Roscommon won 4 U21 Connachts, Galway won 3, at minor Connacht titles won is Roscommon 2 and Galway 3.
This year was Galways first year to play in Div 1 for 6 years while next year will be Roscommons 3rd year in Div one in the last 4 years.
Complete the phrase:
Up and down like a....
The thing about Ros to date has been consistency. Not being able to stay in D1 after emerging from D2. Beating Galway and then getting hosed by Mayo last year . They have a tendency to foal which overrides the quality.
The big question is whether or not the management can overcome this.
It would be good if they could because Mayo may be fading.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 16, 2018, 12:50:27 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 16, 2018, 10:41:36 AM
Galway by 6 with their superior fire power
I don't believe Galway have superior fire power, the two forward lines are on par however Galways forward line will likely be up against a loose marking defence while the Roscommon forward line won't be given the same time and room on the ball. It all points to Galway win but and there is always a but shocks happen and a few has already happened this year Fermanagh v Monaghan,Carlow v Kildare and I always love to see a good underdog win and I can imagine we'll see some fantastic scenes on the field afterwards if Roscommon mange to win in front of their own supporters against the odds.
Saying our forwards are on par with Galway's is an insult to ours.
Quote from: JoG2 on June 16, 2018, 10:41:36 AM
Galway by 6 with their superior fire power
After shock result last year feel Galway by 4/5 will be the outcome. Galway have added increased physicality to their football, Ross not up to that level.
Galway's backs are significantly better than Roscommon's. However, I have a sneaking feeling for Ross so I'll go with them by a point
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 16, 2018, 01:44:42 PM
Galway's backs are significantly better than Roscommon's. However, I have a sneaking feeling for Ross so I'll go with them by a point
Man for man they aren't superior at all. Their system is better defensively however.
Quote from: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 01:28:11 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 16, 2018, 01:01:01 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on June 16, 2018, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on June 16, 2018, 08:29:46 AM
Stolen sheep forum is just adorable at the moment. Absolute indignation over Galway getting the bulk of the media coverage. Shocking stuff that a small GAA county with one big win in 8 years has a low media profile...
And meanwhile in those 8 years the Galway footballers have done what exactly
2 U 21 and a2 club all Ireland's
Mol an óige agus tiocfaidh sí
One of those U21 All Irelands (2013) they could easily have lost to Roscommon in the Connacht final. Brigids won 1 club All Ireland and they took Corofin to extra time this season before Corofin went on to win their 2nd AI
Hasn't been a lot between Galway and Roscommon over the last decade.
Both have won 2 senior Connacht titles. Roscommon won 4 U21 Connachts, Galway won 3, at minor Connacht titles won is Roscommon 2 and Galway 3.
This year was Galways first year to play in Div 1 for 6 years while next year will be Roscommons 3rd year in Div one in the last 4 years.
Complete the phrase:
Up and down like a....
The thing about Ros to date has been consistency. Not being able to stay in D1 after emerging from D2. Beating Galway and then getting hosed by Mayo last year . They have a tendency to foal which overrides the quality.
The big question is whether or not the management can overcome this.
It would be good if they could because Mayo may be fading.
They stayed in Div 1 2016 and when relegated back to Div 2 they didn't need 6 years to gain promotion back to div 1 like Galway did. Both sides have tendency to foal as both are still very much young sides and still work in progress which makes tomorrows final all the more intriguing.
Apart from Kilroy's sweeping we hardly could be said to have any defensive system.
We have to pray that like Salthill last year everyone from 2 to 9 burst every gut.
Whatever about a system key to Roscommons in last years Connacht final win was defending well fighting for every ball and wanting it more than Galway while the opposite happened in Connacht final replay in 2016.
Last 3 finals between the teams were not good finals, A dour draw and two easy wins. We have yet to see a classic between these two sides like the U21 Connacht finals in 2013,2015 is tomorrow the day that will happen?
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 16, 2018, 02:16:16 PM
Whatever about a system key to Roscommons in last years Connacht final win was defending well fighting for every ball and wanting it more than Galway while the opposite happened in Connacht final replay in 2016.
Last 3 finals between the teams were not good finals, A dour draw and two easy wins. We have yet to see a classic between these two sides like the U21 Connacht finals in 2013,2015 is tomorrow the day that will happen?
Nah. Straightforward Ros win is on the cards.
Quote from: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 01:29:52 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 16, 2018, 12:50:27 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 16, 2018, 10:41:36 AM
Galway by 6 with their superior fire power
I don't believe Galway have superior fire power, the two forward lines are on par however Galways forward line will likely be up against a loose marking defence while the Roscommon forward line won't be given the same time and room on the ball. It all points to Galway win but and there is always a but shocks happen and a few has already happened this year Fermanagh v Monaghan,Carlow v Kildare and I always love to see a good underdog win and I can imagine we'll see some fantastic scenes on the field afterwards if Roscommon mange to win in front of their own supporters against the odds.
Saying our forwards are on par with Galway's is an insult to ours.
A classic Syferism
Partisan like Comical Ali
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 16, 2018, 01:44:42 PM
Galway's backs are significantly better than Roscommon's. However, I have a sneaking feeling for Ross so I'll go with them by a point
If we had both Silke and Kerin then maybe but both are missing. Sean Andy looks like he'll be very good but it's still his first year. Sean Kelly too looks like he'll be very good but has even less experience than that. Bradshaw and Sweeney have been around for a good while now. Bradshaw in fairness has been playing well but both are going to be under pressure to hold their spots going forward. Maybe not this year but definitely next.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 16, 2018, 02:35:30 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 16, 2018, 01:44:42 PM
Galway's backs are significantly better than Roscommon's. However, I have a sneaking feeling for Ross so I'll go with them by a point
If we had both Silke and Kerin then maybe but both are missing. Sean Andy looks like he'll be very good but it's still his first year. Sean Kelly too looks like he'll be very good but has even less experience than that. Bradshaw and Sweeney have been around for a good while now. Bradhshaw in fairness has been playing well but both are going to be under pressure to hold their spots going forward. Maybe not this year but definitely next.
For all the talk Sean Andy has gotten (has a FB ever got this much hype in his first season?), no one is mentioning our returning double AI-winning FB Peter Domican. He's came back after four years out of the game entirely to become the starting FB for a team that is operating at a far higher level than the one he left in 2013. That's no small achievement.
Quote from: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 02:25:23 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 16, 2018, 02:16:16 PM
Whatever about a system key to Roscommons in last years Connacht final win was defending well fighting for every ball and wanting it more than Galway while the opposite happened in Connacht final replay in 2016.
Last 3 finals between the teams were not good finals, A dour draw and two easy wins. We have yet to see a classic between these two sides like the U21 Connacht finals in 2013,2015 is tomorrow the day that will happen?
Nah. Straightforward Ros win is on the cards.
Your model is asymmetric. Short dopamine hit after provocative post vs 2 week absence if the heron chokers win.
Quote from: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 02:39:11 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 16, 2018, 02:35:30 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 16, 2018, 01:44:42 PM
Galway's backs are significantly better than Roscommon's. However, I have a sneaking feeling for Ross so I'll go with them by a point
If we had both Silke and Kerin then maybe but both are missing. Sean Andy looks like he'll be very good but it's still his first year. Sean Kelly too looks like he'll be very good but has even less experience than that. Bradshaw and Sweeney have been around for a good while now. Bradhshaw in fairness has been playing well but both are going to be under pressure to hold their spots going forward. Maybe not this year but definitely next.
For all the talk Sean Andy has gotten (has a FB ever got this much hype in his first season?), no one is mentioning our returning double AI-winning FB Peter Domican. He's came back after four years out of the game entirely to become the starting FB for a team that is operating at a far higher level than the one he left in 2013. That's no small achievement.
Sure it's Sean Milkerrins that's the great white hope of full backs not Sean Andy....... some county to hypdvladx up. ShanevWalsh was the next Sean Purcell ... still waiting on a decent championship performance in a game that matters.....
're Domican, a good honest lad, but wasn't fit to play full back when he left at 25 or 26 so it sums up the dearth of available defenders that he is needed to play there after a 4 year Arabian sabbatical......
Quote from: Orchard park on June 16, 2018, 05:07:36 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 02:39:11 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 16, 2018, 02:35:30 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 16, 2018, 01:44:42 PM
Galway's backs are significantly better than Roscommon's. However, I have a sneaking feeling for Ross so I'll go with them by a point
If we had both Silke and Kerin then maybe but both are missing. Sean Andy looks like he'll be very good but it's still his first year. Sean Kelly too looks like he'll be very good but has even less experience than that. Bradshaw and Sweeney have been around for a good while now. Bradhshaw in fairness has been playing well but both are going to be under pressure to hold their spots going forward. Maybe not this year but definitely next.
For all the talk Sean Andy has gotten (has a FB ever got this much hype in his first season?), no one is mentioning our returning double AI-winning FB Peter Domican. He's came back after four years out of the game entirely to become the starting FB for a team that is operating at a far higher level than the one he left in 2013. That's no small achievement.
Sure it's Sean Milkerrins that's the great white hope of full backs not Sean Andy....... some county to hypdvladx up. ShanevWalsh was the next Sean Purcell ... still waiting on a decent championship performance in a game that matters.....
're Domican, a good honest lad, but wasn't fit to play full back when he left at 25 or 26 so it sums up the dearth of available defenders that he is needed to play there after a 4 year Arabian sabbatical......
Ya wha? Peter Domican was widely regarded as one of the best backs in Connacht when he left. It wouldn't be much of a stretch to say he was our best defender at the time of his departure in 2013. Domican has been back playing for his club for over a year (MotM in last year's county final) so it's hardly like he fell off the plane into the senior county team either.
Syferus, Domican was a decent corner back but playing centre back our of necessity pre his emigration.
He's a smashing lad, nobody faulting his honesty graft or tenaciousness , but thus far he has non shown enough to be a good intercounty fullback.
We have a limited backline, just like Galway have but no point putting players on pedestals like you are anointing Domo currently.......for us to win heand the other 5 backs need to have lifetime best oerformances
Syf should work in marketing for the health system
Quote from: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 06:44:21 PM
Syf should work in marketing for the health system
Maybe housing either, find the missing 30000 new builds of recent years....
64,435 Roscommon people have kept a low profile leading up to Connacht final; one man has made it his mission to make up for every one of them.
Quote from: weareros on June 16, 2018, 06:59:34 PM
64,435 Roscommon people have kept a low profile leading up to Connacht final; one man has made it his mission to make up for every one of them.
He's turning me off wanting to shout for ye.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 16, 2018, 07:12:09 PM
Quote from: weareros on June 16, 2018, 06:59:34 PM
64,435 Roscommon people have kept a low profile leading up to Connacht final; one man has made it his mission to make up for every one of them.
He's turning me off wanting to shout for ye.
I couldn't give a shîte if you have a voodoo doll of McStay filled with needles, Farr.
Quote from: weareros on June 16, 2018, 06:59:34 PM
64,435 Roscommon people have kept a low profile leading up to Connacht final; one man has made it his mission to make up for every one of them.
When a foghorn sounds,its meant to be heard-even though its the same oul annoying drone every time....😉
If Roscommon defend anything like the league final , Galway are capable of scoring 12 goals .
Quote from: larryin89 on June 16, 2018, 07:37:39 PM
If Roscommon defend anything like the league final , Galway are capable of scoring 12 goals .
The only time Mayo sees silverware these days is at the dinner table.
I think most reasonable posters know what normal Rossies think about football and the most frequent poster here doesn't represent them.....
We have a huge chance tomorrow in a game where high teams have up to 4players who may not be deemed top quality county players......... the odds are wrong to my eyes .
Both sides defences are there to be exploited. Hopefully the murtagh and Smith brothers etc can do it better.......
Quote from: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 07:45:51 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 16, 2018, 07:37:39 PM
If Roscommon defend anything like the league final , Galway are capable of scoring 12 goals .
The only time Mayo sees silverware these days is at the dinner table.
Very true syferus , say that 21 times now.
If there were 2 or 3 teams in the province operating at peak level it would increase thé likelihood of Sam coming thar Sionna. I think a strong Ros would be good for Galway and vice versa.
If the the mods would ban our prize eejit for a few weeks we can have sensible adult discussion.
Syf must be a reincarnated Real Madrid fan who lived under Franco
Quote from: Rossfan on June 16, 2018, 08:44:41 PM
If the the mods would ban our prize eejit for a few weeks we can have sensible adult discussion.
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Quote from: Rossfan on June 16, 2018, 08:44:41 PM
If the the mods would ban our prize eejit for a few weeks we can have sensible adult discussion.
Don't put yourself down like that.
Quote from: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 08:02:59 PM
If there were 2 or 3 teams in the province operating at peak level it would increase thé likelihood of Sam coming thar Sionna. I think a strong Ros would be good for Galway and vice versa.
The gas thing is, both Mayo and Galway were shite the last time Roscommon won AI titles! It's kinda like saying Leinster needs to be strong for Dublin to win AI titles! The reality is it does not matter. If anything it's a hindrance.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 16, 2018, 09:11:30 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 08:02:59 PM
If there were 2 or 3 teams in the province operating at peak level it would increase thé likelihood of Sam coming thar Sionna. I think a strong Ros would be good for Galway and vice versa.
The gas thing is, both Mayo and Galway were shite the last time Roscommon won AI titles! It's kinda like saying Leinster needs to be strong for Dublin to win AI titles! The reality is it does not matter. If anything it's a hindrance.
That is only one example
The last time Galway won they did it on the shoulders of Mayo.
The last decent Ros team followed a very unlucky Galway team that lost 3 finals.
Quote from: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 09:30:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 16, 2018, 09:11:30 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 08:02:59 PM
If there were 2 or 3 teams in the province operating at peak level it would increase thé likelihood of Sam coming thar Sionna. I think a strong Ros would be good for Galway and vice versa.
The gas thing is, both Mayo and Galway were shite the last time Roscommon won AI titles! It's kinda like saying Leinster needs to be strong for Dublin to win AI titles! The reality is it does not matter. If anything it's a hindrance.
That is only one example
The last time Galway won they did it on the shoulders of Mayo.
The last decent Ros team followed a very unlucky Galway team that lost 3 finals.
Galway had to beat two good Roscommon teams in 1998 (after replay) and 2001 (after Ros beat them the first day)
Quote from: sans pessimism on June 16, 2018, 08:49:49 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 16, 2018, 08:44:41 PM
If the the mods would ban our prize eejit for a few weeks we can have sensible adult discussion.
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This clears up the clutter:
Board has an ''Ignore' function.
Click on 'Profile' near the top of the page.
Select 'Account Settings'.
Then choose 'Modify Profile'.
There, click on 'Buddies/Ignore List'.
Stick in the screen name of whoever you want to ignore.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 16, 2018, 09:35:15 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 09:30:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 16, 2018, 09:11:30 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 08:02:59 PM
If there were 2 or 3 teams in the province operating at peak level it would increase thé likelihood of Sam coming thar Sionna. I think a strong Ros would be good for Galway and vice versa.
The gas thing is, both Mayo and Galway were shite the last time Roscommon won AI titles! It's kinda like saying Leinster needs to be strong for Dublin to win AI titles! The reality is it does not matter. If anything it's a hindrance.
That is only one example
The last time Galway won they did it on the shoulders of Mayo.
The last decent Ros team followed a very unlucky Galway team that lost 3 finals.
Galway had to beat two good Roscommon teams in 1998 (after replay) and 2001 (after Ros beat them the first day)
The herring cholera tend to forget how close we were in both years
Quote from: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 09:30:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 16, 2018, 09:11:30 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 08:02:59 PM
If there were 2 or 3 teams in the province operating at peak level it would increase thé likelihood of Sam coming thar Sionna. I think a strong Ros would be good for Galway and vice versa.
The gas thing is, both Mayo and Galway were shite the last time Roscommon won AI titles! It's kinda like saying Leinster needs to be strong for Dublin to win AI titles! The reality is it does not matter. If anything it's a hindrance.
That is only one example
The last time Galway won they did it on the shoulders of Mayo.
The last decent Ros team followed a very unlucky Galway team that lost 3 finals.
Just like your example above is only one example! In reality counties like Kerry have built a Dynasty from little or no opposition in a Hurling Province in Football. An easier province makes it easier to peak later for the business end. The Munster football Championship means so little that the Cup is the smallest GAA trophy and they never named it after anybody.
Quote from: Orchard park on June 16, 2018, 07:54:59 PM
I think most reasonable posters know what normal Rossies think about football and the most frequent poster here doesn't represent them.....
We have a huge chance tomorrow in a game where high teams have up to 4players who may not be deemed top quality county players......... the odds are wrong to my eyes .
Both sides defences are there to be exploited. Hopefully the murtagh and Smith brothers etc can do it better.......
I'd say most reasonable neutrals would accept this. Like the majority of those folks, I'll be rooting for Ross all the way.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0613/970274-all-you-need-to-know-about-roscommon-v-galway/
This final sees two sides that it's fair to say have not yet reached their peak. Roscommon's march to the All-Ireland series in 2017 was another indicator of their rise under Kevin McStay and their promotion in the spring, after a few narrow narrow victories, underlined a growing maturity.
The squad, while missing the influential Seán Mullooly, can take much heart from Peter Domican's return in defence.
The Rossies did well to curb Galway's attacking threat at this stage last summer and so Domican and the likes of John McManus and Fintan Cregg will have to be well primed to stifle a a forward division that's even more formidable now.
That said, Roscommon will have worked on getting the most out of their 10-15 lines against a Galway rearguard that boasts a more tougher complexion than 12 months ago.
In his column on these pages, Philip Jordan feels Galway aren't yet at the level to claim All-Ireland glory, but adds that they need to win Sunday's game by four or five points to show that they are moving further in the right direction.
Their new-found defensive solidity is underlined by the concession of only two goals in all their competitive games to date in 2018.
Did You Know
This is the first time since 1976-1977-78 that Galway and Roscommon have met in three successive Connacht finals.
Roscommon's last Connacht final win in Dr. Hyde Park was in 2001 when they beat Mayo by 2-10 to 1-12.
Galway's last Connacht final win in Dr. Hyde Park was in 1998 when they beat Roscommon in a replay (extra-time) by 1-17 to 0-17.
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https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0612/969997-jordan-galway-ros/
Galway were working hard, but they weren't organised and that's where they fell short.
Roscommon, defending champions, don't forget, and playing at home in Hyde Park, will represent a sterner test on Sunday and it's the sort of game that Galway need to go out and win by four or five points. This would show that are moving in the right direction.
In Ian Burke, Damien Comer and Shane Walsh they have three very different forwards and in a day when man-to-man marking is dwindling in football defences they are all men that need specific attention.
They pose different problems, with Burke's guile and skill, Comer's power and direct lines and Walsh (who is like Marmite to a lot of Galway fans it seems) with his pace and willingness to take a man on. They all need to be marked and that can upset the opposition's defensive game-plan.
I don't see Galway as genuine All-Ireland contenders just yet, but winning on Sunday and then three games in the Super 8 could really bring them on. Playing in a first All-Ireland semi-final, if they could make it that far, would be a huge step.
I'm not necessarily saying you have to lose one to win one, but if you look at Dublin in 2010 and Donegal in 2011 - they lost a semi-final before going on to win Sam Maguire.
Galway manager Kevin Walsh
An area Galway will continue to have to work on is the transition between defence and attack, and getting the balance right between getting men behind the ball, in the right positions and working hard, and then committing bodies forward.
May the best team win
https://youtu.be/tuRhE7y6-EA
May Roscommon win......
From a proud exile
Galway to win 5-6 points playing in first gear. Still been a great season for the rossies winning the FBD Cup and division 2 league title.
Quote from: CumminsCiderLarry on June 17, 2018, 11:53:40 AM
Galway to win 5-6 points playing in first gear. Still been a great season for the rossies winning the FBD Cup and division 2 league title.
Try harder Larrin :-*
Quote from: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 01:07:43 PM
Quote from: Manning18 on June 16, 2018, 08:29:46 AM
Stolen sheep forum is just adorable at the moment. Absolute indignation over Galway getting the bulk of the media coverage. Shocking stuff that a small GAA county with one big win in 8 years has a low media profile...
Your English comprehension must be extremely poor to get this take from that forum.
Cry me a river.
What are ya getting upset over? Do you run the site or something? For all the talk of Galway people getting ahead of themselves, it's a good read over there! Amazing what that solitary championship win can do for confidence
Weather is shite enough today in Roscommon for the match, and unless it clears up seriously before throw in, I wouldn't expect too many fireworks. It's the type of day where a poor handling mistake is more likely than a sublime piece of skill.
Anyway best of luck to the Galway lads, hopefully they'll be looking forward to the Super 8 later this evening.
Quote from: Syferus on June 17, 2018, 11:59:45 AM
Quote from: CumminsCiderLarry on June 17, 2018, 11:53:40 AM
Galway to win 5-6 points playing in first gear. Still been a great season for the rossies winning the FBD Cup and division 2 league title.
Try harder Larrin :-*
We saw what Roscommon are like when the proper football is played in a August hammered by mayo in the replay. Think rossies peaked too early in league final against cavan. Still been great season regardless what happens today. They have plenty rest for round 4 qualifier.
Very well observed thing here :
https://www.rte.ie/sport/football/2018/0615/970790-no-more-glitz-roscommon-show-worth-of-provinces/
For Roscommon, by contrast, there is probably no Croker humiliation so great that it could take the sheen off a Connacht title. At the end of the day, a Connacht title is a Connacht title and they ain't taking that away from you
What time is throw in and what station is it on? Thanks
Quote from: on the sideline on June 17, 2018, 02:00:41 PM
What time is throw in and what station is it on? Thanks
4pm, RTE 1.
Galway have strong breeze behind them here and not using it. could be in big trouble. Walsh unimpressive apart from Mayo matches!
Quote from: Tubberman on June 17, 2018, 04:17:15 PM
Galway have strong breeze behind them here and not using it. could be in big trouble. Walsh unimpressive apart from Mayo matches!
Only man doing ought for Galway
Quote from: JoG2 on June 17, 2018, 04:22:45 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 17, 2018, 04:17:15 PM
Galway have strong breeze behind them here and not using it. could be in big trouble. Walsh unimpressive apart from Mayo matches!
Only man doing ought for Galway
I meant the manager :D
Quote from: Tubberman on June 17, 2018, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on June 17, 2018, 04:22:45 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 17, 2018, 04:17:15 PM
Galway have strong breeze behind them here and not using it. could be in big trouble. Walsh unimpressive apart from Mayo matches!
Only man doing ought for Galway
I meant the manager :D
I wondered as I typed tbh!
Galway very poor.
0-05 with the wind for Galway in the first half! Galway seem content on defending being three points in arrears
I know it is only halftime but you wonder wtf is Kevin Walsh doing tactically. Shambles
I have good forwards, I have a very strong wind and ah sure let's play with 12 back behind the Ball.
Roscommon to their credit are playing very well and deserving of their lead.
Up de Ros.
Glad to be proven wrong. Congratulations Roscommon. Diarmuid Murtagh and Enda Smith have been immense. 3 Connacht final defeats for Kevin Walsh.
Galway haven't quite managed the blanket in the summertime.
Kevin Walsh doesn't have a clue.
Quote from: joemamas on June 17, 2018, 04:42:27 PM
I know it is only halftime but you wonder wtf is Kevin Walsh doing tactically. Shambles
I have good forwards, I have a very strong wind and ah sure let's play with 12 back behind the Ball.
Roscommon to their credit are playing very well and deserving of their lead.
Roscommon have 13 behind the ball on several occasions in that half as Marty pointed out. Their big problem is that Galway are not settled or composed inside and they're not marking tight enough in defence. Tactically there's no great difference in the two sides. Ros are finishing more clinically and making the right decisions on the ball.
Quote from: trileacman on June 17, 2018, 04:58:45 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 17, 2018, 04:42:27 PM
I know it is only halftime but you wonder wtf is Kevin Walsh doing tactically. Shambles
I have good forwards, I have a very strong wind and ah sure let's play with 12 back behind the Ball.
Roscommon to their credit are playing very well and deserving of their lead.
Roscommon have 13 behind the ball on several occasions in that half as Marty pointed out. Their big problem is that Galway are not settled or composed inside and they're not marking tight enough in defence. Tactically there's no great difference in the two sides. Ros are finishing more clinically and making the right decisions on the ball.
12 and 13 at the back is fine but counts for nothing if you can't pressure the ball. That's Brolly's gripe with the zonal defence and he does have a point. Roscommon have played well in the eat half will be interesting to see what changes in the second half of anything!
Quote from: screenexile on June 17, 2018, 05:02:34 PM
Quote from: trileacman on June 17, 2018, 04:58:45 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 17, 2018, 04:42:27 PM
I know it is only halftime but you wonder wtf is Kevin Walsh doing tactically. Shambles
I have good forwards, I have a very strong wind and ah sure let's play with 12 back behind the Ball.
Roscommon to their credit are playing very well and deserving of their lead.
Roscommon have 13 behind the ball on several occasions in that half as Marty pointed out. Their big problem is that Galway are not settled or composed inside and they're not marking tight enough in defence. Tactically there's no great difference in the two sides. Ros are finishing more clinically and making the right decisions on the ball.
12 and 13 at the back is fine but counts for nothing if you can't pressure the ball. That's Brolly's gripe with the zonal defence and he does have a point. Roscommon have played well in the eat half will be interesting to see what changes in the second half of anything!
Brolly was full of shit. He said Ros were playing like Kerry and had his usual personal attack on individuals, only Gooch tried to analyse the game. Colm got in his "ah it wasn't like this in my day" routine so he'll collect the paycheck for another week.
Ros v poor since ht.
Quote from: trileacman on June 17, 2018, 05:06:20 PM
Quote from: screenexile on June 17, 2018, 05:02:34 PM
Quote from: trileacman on June 17, 2018, 04:58:45 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 17, 2018, 04:42:27 PM
I know it is only halftime but you wonder wtf is Kevin Walsh doing tactically. Shambles
I have good forwards, I have a very strong wind and ah sure let's play with 12 back behind the Ball.
Roscommon to their credit are playing very well and deserving of their lead.
Roscommon have 13 behind the ball on several occasions in that half as Marty pointed out. Their big problem is that Galway are not settled or composed inside and they're not marking tight enough in defence. Tactically there's no great difference in the two sides. Ros are finishing more clinically and making the right decisions on the ball.
12 and 13 at the back is fine but counts for nothing if you can't pressure the ball. That's Brolly's gripe with the zonal defence and he does have a point. Roscommon have played well in the eat half will be interesting to see what changes in the second half of anything!
Brolly was full of shit. He said Ros were playing like Kerry and had his usual personal attack on individuals, only Gooch tried to analyse the game. Colm got in his "ah it wasn't like this in my day" routine so he'll collect the paycheck for another week.
He's wrong about plenty but his point about the zonal defence and Galway not putting any pressure on the ball carrier was bang on. The personal attacks are a bit much I agree.
Rossies have really imploded
Ros need some forwards.
Galway streets ahead. roscommon with zero leaders on the field. No score from play in 2nd half, very poor.
Well done Galway. Turned on the style in 2nd half when chips were down. Roscommon have to improve in the round 4 game.
Well done Galway, first team into the super 8's. Good commanding second half but you get the feeling it was down to Ross imploding rather than anything Galway did different from the first half. Bradshaw had a mighty game and seems to be playing his best football in a long time!!
Will this guy ever shut up,
Connacht council fella
Tom Flynn man of match. Shane Walsh stepped up today and Armstrong made huge impact off bench. Roscommon kicked 4/5 bad wides 2 shots dropped short in second half. Also Roscommon didn't score from play in second half.
Roscommon are in a bad place and all the bravado from posters in here cant paper over that. Very limited side overall.
a poor show for connacht final. massive opportunity for ros 2 in a row lost. Galway where they want to be, albeit still with major question marks over them
Quote from: larryin89 on June 17, 2018, 05:51:54 PM
Roscommon are in a bad place and all the bravado from posters in here cant paper over that. Very limited side overall.
Poster
Hard luck to the rest of the posters. It's not nice losing a CF.
That was a mighty win considering we had to overcome our own dismal first half tactics which put us in a hole and twice come from behind. I almost pulled my hair out when I saw us sitting back with a big wind at our backs. Shane Walsh was imperious. Everyone knows he has that talent. Just has to produce it more often.
Anyway, more later after a drink.
Galway won in spite of Kevin Walsh.
Overall they have better players than Roscommon, but were not allowed to play football.
Galway management can say it was part of some plan. Bullshit.
Roscommon kicked some really bad wides in second half, and yet they were a point up in 62 minute,
Think they had another goal chance after that.
Just a quick word on Coldrick, a disaster. Anybody see phantom free / point in 38th minute for Roscommon,
A number of his decisions were baffling.
Quote from: joemamas on June 17, 2018, 06:17:55 PM
Galway won in spite of Kevin Walsh.
Overall they have better players than Roscommon, but were not allowed to play football.
Galway management can say it was part of some plan. Bullshit.
Roscommon kicked some really bad wides in second half, and yet they were a point up in 62 minute,
Think they had another goal chance after that.
Just a quick word on Coldrick, a disaster. Anybody see phantom free / point in 38th minute for Roscommon,
A number of his decisions were baffling.
Did he not manage them for the 2nd half?
Flynn and S Walsh were top drawer today.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 17, 2018, 06:02:05 PM
That was a mighty win considering we had to overcome our own dismal first half tactics which put us in a hole and twice come from behind. I almost pulled my hair out when I saw us sitting back with a big wind at our backs. Shane Walsh was imperious. Everyone knows he has that talent. Just has to produce it more often.
Anyway, more later after a drink.
Fully agree, I was fit to be tied at HT - pints later after a drive home though!!
Quote from: joemamas on June 17, 2018, 06:17:55 PM
Just a quick word on Coldrick, a disaster. Anybody see phantom free / point in 38th minute for Roscommon,
A number of his decisions were baffling.
Yeah he gave Roscommon a free against Wynne in the 2nd half that they scored. Was never a foul in a million years. Also didn't give Comer a free in the first half when he clearly had his arm pulled back while shooting. Had we lost by a point or two I'd probably be as angry with him as I was with Kevin Walsh at half-time.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 17, 2018, 06:26:15 PM
Quote from: joemamas on June 17, 2018, 06:17:55 PM
Just a quick word on Coldrick, a disaster. Anybody see phantom free / point in 38th minute for Roscommon,
A number of his decisions were baffling.
Yeah he gave Roscommon a free against Wynne in the 2nd half that they scored. Was never a foul in a million years. Also didn't give Comer a free in the first half when he clearly had his arm pulled back while shooting. Had we lost by a point or two I'd probably be as angry with him as I was with Kevin Walsh at half-time.
Nailed on penalty for Roscommon not given too
Galway got away with fouls at midfield on kickouts for the whole game - what game was he watching! The fouling was obvious!
Quote from: larryin89 on June 17, 2018, 05:51:54 PM
Roscommon are in a bad place and all the bravado from posters in here cant paper over that. Very limited side overall.
dont you mean connacht
its been painful to watch for years
Quote from: joemamas on June 17, 2018, 06:17:55 PM
Galway won in spite of Kevin Walsh.
Overall they have better players than Roscommon, but were not allowed to play football.
Galway management can say it was part of some plan. Bullshit.
Roscommon kicked some really bad wides in second half, and yet they were a point up in 62 minute,
Think they had another goal chance after that.
Just a quick word on Coldrick, a disaster. Anybody see phantom free / point in 38th minute for Roscommon,
A number of his decisions were baffling.
I thought Coldrick was very good and is one of the best out there and that's something from a cavan man to a Meath man. He have one or two frees wrong, that's all. Jesus he is human. He got the big calls right.
Appalling 1st half but very good second half. Delighted to get the win considering what we were faced with at half time. There was nothing intensive about that 1st half, it was pathetic.
I'm laughing at the suggestion Coldrick favoured Galway, one of those early frees for Roscommon against Sean Andy looked very very soft and Donie Smith took a long time before hopping the ball for his score and Comer was clearly fouled late in the first half and thats before Roscommon's only point of the 2nd half is mentioned which was the most ridiculous of the lot. Would have to watch it again though.
Galway hit 16 scores to their 8, its a conclusive stat.
Shane Walsh. That's all.
Connacht titles are valued in Ros mar an rud is annamh is íontach. They have to get over the rhubarbs and the herrins. A team of heron chokers has to be good to beat the rhubarbs. So Ros have to be good to best them. And that is not easy .
Syferus is fairly quiet tonight
Shane Walsh gave the championship performance he has threatened for years. He deserves now to be mentioned in the same breath as the Master.... but wtf were the 3 lugs on the Rosvommon sideline doing giving him the freedom of the park. All defensive focus seemed to be Comer with walsh and to a lesser extent totally ignored.
Flynn looked like s footballer today .... lucky to stay on though.......
Kyne fouled murtsgh in a rugby tackle for the high ball lavelle won in first half........
But better team won....... Roscommon subs bewildering......
Quote from: Laoiseabu on June 17, 2018, 07:28:05 PM
Syferus is fairly quiet tonight
I was actually cheering on the rossiez then I remembered that cnut and promptly changed my mind.
The difference in our composure on the ball between the two halves was hard to understand, we forced too many shots. I think losing Compton was massive in that it forced Enda into a more typical midfield role and destabilised a midfield that was dominating Galway. I hope he's fit for the next game.
Galway just about deserved it based on how wasteful we were in the second half. But as I suspected there was never much between these two sides, the same as it has generally been for many years now. Walsh probably had his best performance in a senior jersey today.
We have to dust ourselves down and come again - we gave Galway their fill despite our mistakes so if we have the right mindset this won't be the final word in our season. No matter who we get in Round 4 we should be winning it if we clean up our errors today and keep the same level of defensive discipline. Getting to the Super 8s opens up the season again and brings with it a lot of experience that will serve this team well in the years ahead.
Diarmuid Murtagh did not deserve to be on the losing side today. Pure class.
Galway played fairly shite and won, absolutely dreadful in the first half Walsh aside. Rossies went to pieces when Galway put on a modicum of pressure in the 2nd half.
Compton going off was a pivotal moment for Roscommon, destroyed at midfield afterwards.
The Rossie fans behind the Galway goals chanting "Rory, Rory, Rory" at Lavelle for the entire 1st half are a stain on the nature of good sportsmanship, delighted to see Roscommon beaten if for nothing else than to shut those idiots up.
Brannigan, Comer not in it at all, Flynn excellent for the most part. Shane Walsh was imperious and the standout player by a country mile, no one else on the pitch to touch him.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 17, 2018, 07:43:56 PM
Galway played fairly shite and won, absolutely dreadful in the first half Walsh aside. Rossies went to pieces when Galway put on a modicum of pressure in the 2nd half.
Compton going off was a pivotal moment for Roscommon, destroyed at midfield afterwards.
The Rossie fans behind the Galway goals chanting "Rory, Rory, Rory" at Lavelle for the entire 1st half are a stain on the nature of good sportsmanship, delighted to see Roscommon beaten if for nothing else than to shut those idiots up.
Brannigan, Comer not in it at all, Flynn excellent for the most part. Shane Walsh was imperious and the standout player by a country mile, no one else on the pitch to touch him.
Heard some chanting like that on and off in the first half alright. I thought it was Galway Galway Galway.
Quote from: Syferus on June 17, 2018, 07:34:54 PM
Diarmuid Murtagh did not deserve to be on the losing side today. Pure class.
"Deserves got nothing to do with it." W Munny
Quote from: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 02:25:23 PM
Nah. Straightforward Ros win is on the cards.
Compton going off was a game changer. He was playing well and you'd feel for Lavin in goals as nobody from Ross was looking for the ball for his kick outs.
Maybe Ross got a bit complacent at half time thinking the game was won?
Whatever the Galway lads giving out about Walsh he made some brave substitutes in the 2nd half that swung the game.
Quote from: highorlow on June 17, 2018, 07:58:13 PM
Compton going off was a game changer. He was playing well and you'd feel for Lavin in goals as nobody from Ross was looking for the ball for his kick outs.
Maybe Ross got a bit complacent at half time thinking the game was won?
Whatever the Galway lads giving out about Walsh he made some brave substitutes in the 2nd half that swung the game.
To me it looked like they panicked when Galway up their game a bit.
Quote from: highorlow on June 17, 2018, 07:58:13 PM
Whatever the Galway lads giving out about Walsh he made some brave substitutes in the 2nd half that swung the game.
Yeah the Galway subs nearly all made a contribution. Armstrong won a free that was scored and scored his own point, Varley scored a point, Duggan and Cooke helped stiffen up the midfield considerably.
On the plus side for Galway they managed to grind out the win with some notable names like Comer, Brannigan, Conroy and Heaney all having off days. McHugh even missed his frees which he usually nails.
Quote from: Itchy on June 17, 2018, 08:03:02 PM
Quote from: highorlow on June 17, 2018, 07:58:13 PM
Compton going off was a game changer. He was playing well and you'd feel for Lavin in goals as nobody from Ross was looking for the ball for his kick outs.
Maybe Ross got a bit complacent at half time thinking the game was won?
Whatever the Galway lads giving out about Walsh he made some brave substitutes in the 2nd half that swung the game.
To me it looked like they panicked when Galway up their game a bit.
They had three wides in a row at one stage in the second half.
Looked like a sizeable difference in the fitness of the 2 sides, Galway's new fitness coach has certainly had an impact.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 17, 2018, 07:49:13 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 17, 2018, 07:43:56 PM
Galway played fairly shite and won, absolutely dreadful in the first half Walsh aside. Rossies went to pieces when Galway put on a modicum of pressure in the 2nd half.
Compton going off was a pivotal moment for Roscommon, destroyed at midfield afterwards.
The Rossie fans behind the Galway goals chanting "Rory, Rory, Rory" at Lavelle for the entire 1st half are a stain on the nature of good sportsmanship, delighted to see Roscommon beaten if for nothing else than to shut those idiots up.
Brannigan, Comer not in it at all, Flynn excellent for the most part. Shane Walsh was imperious and the standout player by a country mile, no one else on the pitch to touch him.
Heard some chanting like that on and off in the first half alright. I thought it was Galway Galway Galway.
They spent the first thirty five minutes hurling abuse at the Ruairi Lavelle :( You will always get one two gobs1tes but rarely 10-15, a horrible bunch of people. To any one that says this happens at all matches, it doesn't.
A lot of embarassing wides by Roscommon. The 2 goals takes the bad look off the score.
The best forwards in Connacht (from Roscommon) kicked some wides today
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 17, 2018, 08:47:51 PM
The best forwards in Connacht (from Roscommon) kicked some wides today
The Best forward in the country from Galway went missing until the game was won today!
Galway footballers' first game in the AI quarters/Super 8's v the Munster champions in Croke Park on Jul 14/15.
Galway pressing up in the second half shouldve been the gameplan to begin with. Once systems went out the window, the gulf in class was quickly evident. Flynn's really becoming a man this year and Kerin is a wonderful little corner back now. Walsh obviously was superb, and Army very lively off the bench. Don't think we'll ever have a half as bad as the first again. To endure that, be hit with two sucker punches of goals and still win by a comfortable margin in the end is positive.
Shoutout to the crowd of drunken muppets behind the goal. The type of fans that gave Roscommon fans a bad name around the turn of the century, but an element I thought was gone as ive seen nothing bad the last two years. Perhaps it was because the game was in the Hyde, as I suspect theyre the type of lads that dont make it out of the small town too often
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 17, 2018, 08:52:48 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 17, 2018, 08:47:51 PM
The best forwards in Connacht (from Roscommon) kicked some wides today
The Best forward in the country from Galway went missing until the game was won today!
Ah come on now. He was quiet most of the game (thought the Ros man marker, McInerney I believe, played very well, for all that Comer shouldve had a penalty), but the time he did hit his purple patch was right at the crunch stage of the game
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 17, 2018, 08:53:35 PM
Galway footballers' first game in the AI quarters/Super 8's v the Munster champions in Croke Park on Jul 14/15.
They should have ours on the Saturday night, but the Sunday games clash with the WC final and ive a feeling they won't allow the Dubs game to clash with that, meaning the Galway game will.
Also if our hurlers lose the Leinster final, we could end up with the footballers in Croker and the Hurlers in Pairc ui Caoimh playing a QF at the same time. At best it would be a trip to Dublin and Cork on consecutive days. Important the hurlers win
On a good note, we've a home Super 8 game in Salthill the Saturday night of race week. Epic
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 17, 2018, 08:52:48 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 17, 2018, 08:47:51 PM
The best forwards in Connacht (from Roscommon) kicked some wides today
The Best forward in the country from Galway went missing until the game was won today!
I'd say he came alive when the game was there to be won
Quote from: Manning18 on June 17, 2018, 09:05:33 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 17, 2018, 08:52:48 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 17, 2018, 08:47:51 PM
The best forwards in Connacht (from Roscommon) kicked some wides today
The Best forward in the country from Galway went missing until the game was won today!
Ah come on now. He was quiet most of the game (thought the Ros man marker, McInerney I believe, played very well, for all that Comer shouldve had a penalty), but the time he did hit his purple patch was right at the crunch stage of the game
Damien Comer still has it all to prove. At the moment he is the most overrated player in the country.
Quote from: Manning18 on June 17, 2018, 09:00:37 PM
Galway pressing up in the second half shouldve been the gameplan to begin with. Once systems went out the window, the gulf in class was quickly evident. Flynn's really becoming a man this year and Kerin is a wonderful little corner back now. Walsh obviously was superb, and Army very lively off the bench. Don't think we'll ever have a half as bad as the first again. To endure that, be hit with two sucker punches of goals and still win by a comfortable margin in the end is positive.
Shoutout to the crowd of drunken muppets behind the goal. The type of fans that gave Roscommon fans a bad name around the turn of the century, but an element I thought was gone as ive seen nothing bad the last two years. Perhaps it was because the game was in the Hyde, as I suspect theyre the type of lads that dont make it out of the small town too often
Interesting point on once systems went out the window... I thought walsh setup galway terribly and then eventually systems did go out the window. In the games against the big boys this could really count against them. I think he may have progressed them a bit but at some point they may need a new manager to really challenge.
It wasn't roscommons wide count was the problem - it was generally they were taking on shots they shouldn't have been.
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The best forwards in Connacht (from Roscommon) kicked some wides today
The Best forward in the country from Galway went missing until the game was won today!
Ah come on now. He was quiet most of the game (thought the Ros man marker, McInerney I believe, played very well, for all that Comer shouldve had a penalty), but the time he did hit his purple patch was right at the crunch stage of the game
Damien Comer still has it all to prove. At the moment he is the most overrated player in the country.
Had a quietish day as Roscommon had a sweeper stationed right in front of him along with his own marker. Still kicked 0-2 when the game was still in the balance in the long injury time period. If that's the floor level performance for him then he's doing ok.
I've always thought of Shane Walsh as a lad with great talent, but lacked composure, and possibly lacking in bottle.
But he was superb today. Hats off to him, he's an absolute joy to watch, and let's hope this is the game which is the start of him being consistently good.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 17, 2018, 08:22:37 PM
Looked like a sizeable difference in the fitness of the 2 sides, Galway's new fitness coach has certainly had an impact.
Pace rather than fitness in my view. Ros have an awful lot of big lumbering lads, and a lot of talented footballers, but very little in the way of raw pace.
Roscommon very average to be honest. Won't be too many worried about drawing the rossies
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 17, 2018, 08:47:51 PM
The best forwards in Connacht (from Roscommon) kicked some wides today
The Best forward in the country from Galway went missing until the game was won today!
Have you been drinking?
Comer didn't have a good game today granted but you do realise that the two points he kicked in a row were when the scores were deadlocked towards the end of the game!
And you think the game was won at that stage,ya?
God help us.
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 17, 2018, 08:47:51 PM
The best forwards in Connacht (from Roscommon) kicked some wides today
The Best forward in the country from Galway went missing until the game was won today!
Ah come on now. He was quiet most of the game (thought the Ros man marker, McInerney I believe, played very well, for all that Comer shouldve had a penalty), but the time he did hit his purple patch was right at the crunch stage of the game
Damien Comer still has it all to prove. At the moment he is the most overrated player in the country.
Thats absolute nonsense. This isnt some stylish hype player with a big reputation coming in from underage. Comer couldnt even make his school team in leaving cert. He's an unstylish player who nobody knew anything about who has built a reputation for himself through performing consistently well. He's already had about 5 man of the match performances in championship by age 24
Quote from: Hound on June 17, 2018, 09:20:35 PM
I've always thought of Shane Walsh as a lad with great talent, but lacked composure, and possibly lacking in bottle.
But he was superb today. Hats off to him, he's an absolute joy to watch, and let's hope this is the game which is the start of him being consistently good.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 17, 2018, 08:22:37 PM
Looked like a sizeable difference in the fitness of the 2 sides, Galway's new fitness coach has certainly had an impact.
Pace rather than fitness in my view. Ros have an awful lot of big lumbering lads, and a lot of talented footballers, but very little in the way of raw pace.
completely agree. Think we do very well for what we have.
Against who and at what stage ?
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 17, 2018, 08:47:51 PM
The best forwards in Connacht (from Roscommon) kicked some wides today
The Best forward in the country from Galway went missing until the game was won today!
Ah come on now. He was quiet most of the game (thought the Ros man marker, McInerney I believe, played very well, for all that Comer shouldve had a penalty), but the time he did hit his purple patch was right at the crunch stage of the game
2 points from a hype player.... dhoukd have had a free not a penalty, was fouled outside , Mcinerney got the better of the bsttle..... comer lucky not to be booked for hit on Lavin.....
Quote from: larryin89 on June 17, 2018, 09:26:37 PM
Against who and at what stage ?
Connacht final replay in 16 and Mayo last year would be two (Sligo & Leitrim were two others). He was also Galways only good performer vs Tipp in 16 and was superb vs Dublin in the league final. That's 4 of Galways biggest games since he started playing, if your insinuation is that he doesnt do it in big games?
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Quote from: From the Bunker on June 17, 2018, 08:52:48 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 17, 2018, 08:47:51 PM
The best forwards in Connacht (from Roscommon) kicked some wides today
The Best forward in the country from Galway went missing until the game was won today!
Ah come on now. He was quiet most of the game (thought the Ros man marker, McInerney I believe, played very well, for all that Comer shouldve had a penalty), but the time he did hit his purple patch was right at the crunch stage of the game
2 points from a hype player.... dhoukd have had a free not a penalty, was fouled outside , Mcinerney got the better of the bsttle..... comer lucky not to be booked for hit on Lavin.....
McInerney did well. BeidH lá eile ag an bPaorach.
Comer's class may surface in the next match.
Last year Ros had the psychological upper hand but Galway seemed to play conistentky and seize it easily enough today. Lots to learn for Ros if they are in the mood to learn.
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Quote from: Manning18 on June 17, 2018, 09:05:33 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 17, 2018, 08:52:48 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 17, 2018, 08:47:51 PM
The best forwards in Connacht (from Roscommon) kicked some wides today
The Best forward in the country from Galway went missing until the game was won today!
Ah come on now. He was quiet most of the game (thought the Ros man marker, McInerney I believe, played very well, for all that Comer shouldve had a penalty), but the time he did hit his purple patch was right at the crunch stage of the game
2 points from a hype player.... dhoukd have had a free not a penalty, was fouled outside , Mcinerney got the better of the bsttle..... comer lucky not to be booked for hit on Lavin.....
It should have been a sending off. Two strange teams, Galway could have destroyed Roscommon today if they were not so pathetic in the 1st half while if Roscommon were not so wasteful all game then they should have won. Roscommon have the ability to cause upsets but if they make the last 8 they will likely suffer a bad hammering or 2 again. Galway definitely have the ability of a top 4 team but the way they set up in the 1st half today was insane.
Quote from: Manning18 on June 17, 2018, 09:00:37 PM
Shoutout to the crowd of drunken muppets behind the goal. The type of fans that gave Roscommon fans a bad name around the turn of the century, but an element I thought was gone as ive seen nothing bad the last two years. Perhaps it was because the game was in the Hyde, as I suspect theyre the type of lads that dont make it out of the small town too often
No harm to the decent Rossie fans that were in my area of the terrace but them clowns were absolute apes of the highest order. I genuinely don't know have I ever heard such personalised targeting of a player at a match before, struggling to recall anything similar.
Quote from: Manning18 on June 17, 2018, 09:00:37 PM
Galway pressing up in the second half shouldve been the gameplan to begin with. Once systems went out the window, the gulf in class was quickly evident. Flynn's really becoming a man this year and Kerin is a wonderful little corner back now. Walsh obviously was superb, and Army very lively off the bench. Don't think we'll ever have a half as bad as the first again. To endure that, be hit with two sucker punches of goals and still win by a comfortable margin in the end is positive.
Shoutout to the crowd of drunken muppets behind the goal. The type of fans that gave Roscommon fans a bad name around the turn of the century, but an element I thought was gone as ive seen nothing bad the last two years. Perhaps it was because the game was in the Hyde, as I suspect theyre the type of lads that dont make it out of the small town too often
Same shower that were abusing Andy Moran in Croke Park last summer. Theyd be better off to stay at home
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Quote from: Manning18 on June 17, 2018, 09:00:37 PM
Shoutout to the crowd of drunken muppets behind the goal. The type of fans that gave Roscommon fans a bad name around the turn of the century, but an element I thought was gone as ive seen nothing bad the last two years. Perhaps it was because the game was in the Hyde, as I suspect theyre the type of lads that dont make it out of the small town too often
No harm to the decent Rossie fans that were in my area of the terrace but them clowns were absolute apes of the highest order. I genuinely don't know have I ever heard such personalised targeting of a player at a match before, struggling to recall anything similar.
What's the story, who were they targeting and why?
Congrats the Galway lads.
Good game and would have been a savage second half if Roscommon had a kick in them at the end but they had nothing really - which is surprising. The Compton injury was a big hit for them I think and they got beaten up around the middle in the second half. Harney is good but he looks short of conditioning - I know he's just back from injury. The Smiths seemed to disappear? I know that Galway might have more natural pace but I thought in general Ros legs were shot last 10 mins. Galway looked far better conditioned imo.
Kevin Walsh gets a lot of criticism for being negative. I think he will be pleased his tactics worked today. A lot of pundits saying Galway played their natural traditional game in second half today. They didn't. It was as un-natural as their 1-13-1 se-up in first half. That intensive high pressing game can't be sustained for 70 mins. So a manager decides when to do it. Galway did it today when Ros had thrown their best shots but hadn't pulled away. Galway won pulling up in the end. Roscommon players looked shell-shocked by the literally hands-on intensity of some Galway players. How Bradshaw was let away with bear hugging fellas is beyond belief. There is supposed to be a card for that kind of thing? Checking a player making a run. Coldrick and his team did not have a great day and I thought Ros came out on the wrong side of it, but mostly can have not much complaints about result.
Well ''twas a long, miserable day in the Hyde today. To stand for six hours and get beaten in two Connacht finals by both Mayo and Galway with about ten different showers of rain and forget to bring a flask of tea... and then to be reminded of the team that bate us in the worst ever Connacht final in 1993... and have Oh the Green and Red of Mayo blast out over the Tannoy only goes to prove a long held theory that God is not a Roscommon man, or maybe that he hates us for once stealing the lamb of God.
Well done to Galway. As I had hoped, they would play defensive but even I could not believe they would play so defensive with that first half wind, which was tricky but Mayo had put to great use in the second half of U.20. At half time, it was ours to lose. But Galway pushed up in second half and we lost composure after a few bad wides, the loss of Compton, and the intensity Galway brought. They were far the better team in the end and Tom Flynn who had a nightmare in Salthill last Summer for me was the man of the match.... and it was dispiriting to see us lose so many of our kick outs.
While we have never won a qualifier as a losing provincial finalist, I still back this team to change that. And of course congrats to the Mayo team of 92/93 that was honoured, some fine footballers.
Far from a classic Connacht final those set of players can show so much better IMO. Galway won that game due to the individual performances of Tom Flynn,Ian Burke and Shane Walsh. While Roscommon lost due to losing Compton to injury and some awful shooting and shot selection in that 2nd half.
Galway will still need to give a good account of themselves in the last eight to consider this years championship a success while the rossies have up hill task to pick things up and try to reach the last eight but surely their shooting won't be as bad in a round 4 tie?
Those are almost the most satisfying wins when it seems you are beaten twice but pull it out of the fire. Nightmare first half going in 3 points down after having a big wind at our backs. Standing off Roscommon players and letting them thread little passes around their forward line. No pressure on their kickouts at all. Roscommon then get the first score of the second half to go 4 clear. A comeback didn't really seem on given the circumstances but Roscommon wasted a few chances shooting from bad positions like they expected the wind to do all the work for them. Galway begun to get to grip on things in midfield and slowly worked themselves back into it and hit 6 points on the spin. Roscommon then reeling but get the penalty out of nowhere to go 1 up again. I thought that might swing momentum back in Roscommon's favour but Galway were impressive to be fair in closing the game out. Another 5 points on the spin and had the game gone on longer it seemed more likely that Galway would have extended the winning margin rather than Roscommon make it closer.
Kevin Walsh gets fairly tetchy about any criticism he receives for the way he sets his team out tactically but I can't believe he really thinks the approach they took in the first half with an almost gale at their backs was the right one. I mean they won in the end so he might say the end justifies the means but they put themselves in a hole of their own making. Really the only thing that kept Galway in touch in the first half was some Shane Walsh magic.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on June 17, 2018, 11:20:33 PM
Far from a classic Connacht final those set of players can show so much better IMO. Galway won that game due to the individual performances of Tom Flynn,Ian Burke and Shane Walsh. While Roscommon lost due to losing Compton to injury and some awful shooting and shot selection in that 2nd half.
Galway will still need to give a good account of themselves in the last eight to consider this years championship a success while the rossies have up hill task to pick things up and try to reach the last eight but surely their shooting won't be as bad in a round 4 tie?
Tom Flynn went to town on Ros kickouts. Why was the kickouts anywhere him, even though I know they had to be long - nowhere near him? If ye play Dublin, Cluxton wont have him cherry-picking! Why did the Smiths influence disapper? I dont go along that the individuals you listed did ye. Ye should have been fresh but Ros. couldnt handled the press and intensity in last 20mins. Looked leggy and while Galway pressed Ros players seemed to go into a shell and lose the fight. Good luck going forward but I would not like to have to lift that team after that last 5/6 minutes in particular. As a neutral ( rooting for Ros. this time but could have been Galway on other occasions) I was disappointed with Ros capitulation at the end.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 17, 2018, 11:51:34 PM
Those are almost the most satisfying wins when it seems you are beaten twice but pull it out of the fire. Nightmare first half going in 3 points down after having a big wind at our backs. Standing off Roscommon players and letting them thread little passes around their forward line. No pressure on their kickouts at all. Roscommon then get the first score of the second half to go 4 clear. A comeback didn't really seem on given the circumstances but Roscommon wasted a few chances shooting from bad positions like they expected the wind to do all the work for them. Galway begun to get to grip on things in midfield and slowly worked themselves back into it and hit 6 points on the spin. Roscommon then reeling but get the penalty out of nowhere to go 1 up again. I thought that might swing momentum back in Roscommon's favour but Galway were impressive to be fair in closing the game out. Another 5 points on the spin and had the game gone on longer it seemed more likely that Galway would have extended the winning margin rather than Roscommon make it closer.
Kevin Walsh gets fairly tetchy about any criticism he receives for the way he sets his team out tactically but I can't believe he really thinks the approach they took in the first half with an almost gale at their backs was the right one. I mean they won in the end so he might say the end justifies the means but they put themselves in a hole of their own making. Really the only thing that kept Galway in touch in the first half was some Shane Walsh magic.
Maybe Walsh got his tactics spot on? Wind not really a big issue any more - Ros have some good kickers of the ball and couldnt score from play with it! Ros only scored 8 times v Galway 16. Just saying. First half Galway played a lazy zonal defense. They didnt have lads running around chasing lads and dummy runs. They expended little energy and conceded only 1-5. That is a good result. If things ended at ht the Galway lads would not even have to shower. Their energy levels in last quarter blew Ros. away. So, good tactics imo. Unfortunately for Ros. Galway would have decked how Mayo went to town on Ros in replay last year. Up the intensity and run hard. Play football with them and they will give it loads. They will do well now to recover from that.
Congrats to Galway deserved winners on the day. 2 Connacht titles in 3 years their best run for over a decade in the province and with the age profile of the team and players to come through they could well be the best in the west for some time.
A strange game of two halves where both sides played better against the wind than with it. I think with each wide and ball that dropped short in that 2nd half the energy sapped out of Roscommon while it energized Galway. If Roscommon were to pull off another upset win today they needed half the wide count they had. Their bench made little or no impact and i'd wonder if at least one or two are county standard at all? and where was Niall Daly today and why wasn't experienced players Ian Kilbride and Sean McDermott not brought on? still serious issues on the kick outs for Roscommon, Lavin errors resulted in a few points for Galway today costly errors in a game that was only lost by 4 points. He's too slow with his re-starts and just boots it down the middle when kicking long without even looking for a target it seems.
Tom Flynn really took over in midfield when Cathal Compton wasn't there and Enda Smith seemed to pick up a knock before half time and had less influence 2nd half. Shane Walsh the deserved MOTM he ended up scoring half of Galway total and some of his points from play were outstanding. Ian Burke is a big addition to Galway forward line and Sean Kelly is a real find this year for the seniors. Ciaran Duggan,Sean Armstrong, Eoghan Kerin all made telling contributions off the bench.
Should be interesting to see how Galway now fare in the super 8s, they will more than likely face Kerry in Croke park for round 1 which should be an intriguing contest. The 3 week break should be a help to Roscommon, plenty of shooting practice will be required and hope the injury to Compton isn't serious.
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Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 17, 2018, 11:51:34 PM
Those are almost the most satisfying wins when it seems you are beaten twice but pull it out of the fire. Nightmare first half going in 3 points down after having a big wind at our backs. Standing off Roscommon players and letting them thread little passes around their forward line. No pressure on their kickouts at all. Roscommon then get the first score of the second half to go 4 clear. A comeback didn't really seem on given the circumstances but Roscommon wasted a few chances shooting from bad positions like they expected the wind to do all the work for them. Galway begun to get to grip on things in midfield and slowly worked themselves back into it and hit 6 points on the spin. Roscommon then reeling but get the penalty out of nowhere to go 1 up again. I thought that might swing momentum back in Roscommon's favour but Galway were impressive to be fair in closing the game out. Another 5 points on the spin and had the game gone on longer it seemed more likely that Galway would have extended the winning margin rather than Roscommon make it closer.
Kevin Walsh gets fairly tetchy about any criticism he receives for the way he sets his team out tactically but I can't believe he really thinks the approach they took in the first half with an almost gale at their backs was the right one. I mean they won in the end so he might say the end justifies the means but they put themselves in a hole of their own making. Really the only thing that kept Galway in touch in the first half was some Shane Walsh magic.
Maybe Walsh got his tactics spot on? Wind not really a big issue any more - Ros have some good kickers of the ball and couldnt score from play with it! Ros only scored 8 times v Galway 16. Just saying. First half Galway played a lazy zonal defense. They didnt have lads running around chasing lads and dummy runs. They expended little energy and conceded only 1-5. That is a good result. If things ended at ht the Galway lads would not even have to shower. Their energy levels in last quarter blew Ros. away. So, good tactics imo. Unfortunately for Ros. Galway would have decked how Mayo went to town on Ros in replay last year. Up the intensity and run hard. Play football with them and they will give it loads. They will do well now to recover from that.
Not sure about that, Roscommon brought intensity to the drawn game with Mayo and didn't seem to have anything left for the following weekend as they looked wrecked for the replay. Also in that replay Mayo got in for some of the easiest goals ever seen in Croke Park in that match making the game over as a contest at half time.
Niall mc was excellent..probably only Roscommon player who would walk into any county team..we did a lot right yesterday but our failure to address the Walsh issue at any stage was fatal ..he was Galway's best player in salthill last year and was fantastic yesterday..
Bad defeat yesterday.
Despite Galway's much improved 2nd half, despite being destroyed in the middle for most of the second half, despite not looking as fit ad Galway .....we had enough attacks to have stayed ahead on that second half... another 4 points and we'd have been off to Salthill next week.
If we had tacked on a few points early 2nd half ....or got one back for every 2 if Galway's. ...
We're just not good enough for long enough against the serious teams and the prospects of facing Dublin in Croker would tempt you to think a Round 4 defeat might be the best outcome now.
We're a "nice" team not physical or cynical enough (like Galway).
2 of our substitutions yesterday were lads who shouldn't even make the 26 as our cool clean hero gets it wrong again.
A better player than 9 or 10 of the 26 in his civvies yesterday.
Time to face the reality....we are maybe top 10 and no signs of us getting any higher.
Quote2 of our substitutions yesterday were lads who shouldn't even make the 26 as our cool clean hero gets it wrong again.
Time for Gay Sheerin to take over?
Sunday Game's only stat last night was that Roscommon only won 3 out of their 10 kickouts in the second half; What about the other 4 or 5?
Galway kicked 11 points in the 2nd half and had several other shots that went wide, Rossies must have had at least 14 kickouts.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 18, 2018, 09:39:44 AM
Sunday Game's only stat last night was that Roscommon only won 3 out of their 10 kickouts in the second half; What about the other 4 or 5?
Galway kicked 11 points in the 2nd half and had several other shots that went wide, Rossies must have had at least 14 kickouts.
Maybe they meant longer kick outs and the other ones were short kick outs
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 17, 2018, 11:51:34 PM
Those are almost the most satisfying wins when it seems you are beaten twice but pull it out of the fire. Nightmare first half going in 3 points down after having a big wind at our backs. Standing off Roscommon players and letting them thread little passes around their forward line. No pressure on their kickouts at all. Roscommon then get the first score of the second half to go 4 clear. A comeback didn't really seem on given the circumstances but Roscommon wasted a few chances shooting from bad positions like they expected the wind to do all the work for them. Galway begun to get to grip on things in midfield and slowly worked themselves back into it and hit 6 points on the spin. Roscommon then reeling but get the penalty out of nowhere to go 1 up again. I thought that might swing momentum back in Roscommon's favour but Galway were impressive to be fair in closing the game out. Another 5 points on the spin and had the game gone on longer it seemed more likely that Galway would have extended the winning margin rather than Roscommon make it closer.
Kevin Walsh gets fairly tetchy about any criticism he receives for the way he sets his team out tactically but I can't believe he really thinks the approach they took in the first half with an almost gale at their backs was the right one. I mean they won in the end so he might say the end justifies the means but they put themselves in a hole of their own making. Really the only thing that kept Galway in touch in the first half was some Shane Walsh magic.
Very satisfying is right, had given up at half time. They deserve credit for that second half performance and the way they responded again after the pen hitting 5 points without reply. The bench again made a huge impact which is a stark contract to the last few years.
Kerin will naturally come back in for Wynne whilst Conroy & McHugh will be battling to hold on to their places. McHugh had a poor day but I would probably give him the benefit of the doubt and think there's more to come from him but Conroy will be very lucky to retain his place. He was poor yesterday and he was average enough against Mayo & Dublin in the league final.
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Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 17, 2018, 11:51:34 PM
Those are almost the most satisfying wins when it seems you are beaten twice but pull it out of the fire. Nightmare first half going in 3 points down after having a big wind at our backs. Standing off Roscommon players and letting them thread little passes around their forward line. No pressure on their kickouts at all. Roscommon then get the first score of the second half to go 4 clear. A comeback didn't really seem on given the circumstances but Roscommon wasted a few chances shooting from bad positions like they expected the wind to do all the work for them. Galway begun to get to grip on things in midfield and slowly worked themselves back into it and hit 6 points on the spin. Roscommon then reeling but get the penalty out of nowhere to go 1 up again. I thought that might swing momentum back in Roscommon's favour but Galway were impressive to be fair in closing the game out. Another 5 points on the spin and had the game gone on longer it seemed more likely that Galway would have extended the winning margin rather than Roscommon make it closer.
Kevin Walsh gets fairly tetchy about any criticism he receives for the way he sets his team out tactically but I can't believe he really thinks the approach they took in the first half with an almost gale at their backs was the right one. I mean they won in the end so he might say the end justifies the means but they put themselves in a hole of their own making. Really the only thing that kept Galway in touch in the first half was some Shane Walsh magic.
Very satisfying is right, had given up at half time. They deserve credit for that second half performance and the way they responded again after the pen hitting 5 points without reply. The bench again made a huge impact which is a stark contract to the last few years.
Kerin will naturally come back in for Wynne whilst Conroy & McHugh will be battling to hold on to their places. McHugh had a poor day but I would probably give him the benefit of the doubt and think there's more to come from him but Conroy will be very lucky to retain his place. He was poor yesterday and he was average enough against Mayo & Dublin in the league final.
Yeah Conroy will be doing well to hold onto his place. He's not playing very intelligently this year. Just constantly running down blind alleys and getting dispossessed. Just needs to let the ball go quicker. He hasn't been winning much possession from kickouts either. Only thing that might save him is that Walsh might feel he's getting great impact off his bench from the likes of Cooke and Duggan so might not mess with that but on the balance of play he's probably been the worst performing of the four midfielders. Granted he missed much of the Mayo game after going off and the entire Sligo game.
McHugh had a day to forget yesterday. Missed his frees which is why he's in the team really. They were not easy ones to be fair but he did have the wind behind him. Then burned for pace while defending in the corner. He's probably the slowest forward we have and was exposed for his lack of speed by Murtagh there.
McHugh won't be needed for frees again. If Walsh can not over with his weaker foot do easily, surely he takes with right foot also.....
Quote from: Orchard park on June 18, 2018, 11:50:11 AM
McHugh won't be needed for frees again. If Walsh can not over with his weaker foot do easily, surely he takes with right foot also.....
He's a scorer of great frees as opposed to a great free taker though unfortunately. He loses concentration on them too often, such as Sligo where he missed a 13 yard free. Perhaps yesterday might bring him on, he looked much more focused. But even then, his final free, which was for the go ahead score before the penalty, he mishit it and was lucky it snuck over
How was Comer not booked for the cheap shot on the Roscommon goalie?
I'd agree with a lot of what the Galway posters have outlined here this morning.
For me Galway remain in a place where they still can't be fully trusted to perform on the big days, the first half yesterday was terrible, there's no other way to sugar coat it. I don't think they would have turned that around last year but Roscommon ably assisted their second half renaissance with some shocking wides, any repeat in the next 3 matches will see Galway shipping yet another hammering at the Q final stage.
It couldn't have gone much worse for McHugh yesterday, he was at fault for the Roscommon goal, missed both frees he had to take and was anonymous in general play, a day to forget, he will be under pressure to hold on to his starting place for the next match.
Kerin to come back into the starting fifteen when fully fit is a no brainer.
Sean Andy is very raw yet and I can see him maybe taking a skelping in one of the Super 8 matches but the talent is absolutely there, it shouldn't be forgotten that the fine score from Walsh that kick started Galway in the second half came from a barnstorming run by the full back into the heart of Roscommon territory. It was a moment where it looked like he said to himself: "F how this is going out the pitch, I'm going to try and do something about it". Wouldn't be something you'd want to see him at every day out but it was badly needed yesterday.
Seán Kelly has surprised me no end this year, during the Tyrone league match in Tuam when he was blown out of it in a tackle I thought he wasn't near ready for Senior football but he's been very good this year, mea culpa on that one.
If we were to base it solely on 2018 championship performances and overall form this year, the Galway midfield that starts against the Munster champs should be Flynn and Duggan. Conroy is not going well at all at the minute.
The one massive difference with Galway this year is squad depth from midfield up (it's not as good in the backs though), Cooke is a great option off the bench, Army made a telling contribution yesterday, Varley has done well in the brief time he has got and there were no minutes at all for Michael Daly. Danny Cummins not even in the 26 yesterday.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 18, 2018, 12:48:55 PM
How was Comer not booked for the cheap shot on the Roscommon goalie?
It was a straight red card in any other sport, pretty late and no mitigating circumstances. The goalie should have undergone an independent HIA as well.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 18, 2018, 09:49:11 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 18, 2018, 09:39:44 AM
Sunday Game's only stat last night was that Roscommon only won 3 out of their 10 kickouts in the second half; What about the other 4 or 5?
Galway kicked 11 points in the 2nd half and had several other shots that went wide, Rossies must have had at least 14 kickouts.
Maybe they meant longer kick outs and the other ones were short kick outs
Which would mean the stat they presented was bollix because a kick out possession stat is all about just that, getting possession. You cannot just remove data from the stat.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 18, 2018, 12:53:04 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 18, 2018, 12:48:55 PM
How was Comer not booked for the cheap shot on the Roscommon goalie?
It was a straight red card in any other sport, pretty late and no mitigating circumstances. The goalie should have undergone an independent HIA as well.
To be fair I think he was 100% going for the ball and the keeper just got there ahead of him. Certainly a booking but I think a straight red would have been pretty harsh.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 18, 2018, 12:53:04 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 18, 2018, 12:48:55 PM
How was Comer not booked for the cheap shot on the Roscommon goalie?
It was a straight red card in any other sport, pretty late and no mitigating circumstances. The goalie should have undergone an independent HIA as well.
Definitely had a bearing on the game as his kickouts faded rapidly and poor decision making cost roscommon a score and loss of possession when game was in the balance.
Quote from: moysider on June 17, 2018, 10:57:17 PM
Congrats the Galway lads.
Good game and would have been a savage second half if Roscommon had a kick in them at the end but they had nothing really - which is surprising. The Compton injury was a big hit for them I think and they got beaten up around the middle in the second half. Harney is good but he looks short of conditioning - I know he's just back from injury. The Smiths seemed to disappear? I know that Galway might have more natural pace but I thought in general Ros legs were shot last 10 mins. Galway looked far better conditioned imo.
Kevin Walsh gets a lot of criticism for being negative. I think he will be pleased his tactics worked today. A lot of pundits saying Galway played their natural traditional game in second half today. They didn't. It was as un-natural as their 1-13-1 se-up in first half. That intensive high pressing game can't be sustained for 70 mins. So a manager decides when to do it. Galway did it today when Ros had thrown their best shots but hadn't pulled away. Galway won pulling up in the end. Roscommon players looked shell-shocked by the literally hands-on intensity of some Galway players. How Bradshaw was let away with bear hugging fellas is beyond belief. There is supposed to be a card for that kind of thing? Checking a player making a run. Coldrick and his team did not have a great day and I thought Ros came out on the wrong side of it, but mostly can have not much complaints about result.
I've watched the game again and Roscommon can have no complaints about the ref, Galway were on the wrong end of the two worst decisions of the day and there was a couple of more frees Galway should have got inside the 21 in the 2nd half.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 18, 2018, 01:04:48 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 18, 2018, 12:53:04 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 18, 2018, 12:48:55 PM
How was Comer not booked for the cheap shot on the Roscommon goalie?
It was a straight red card in any other sport, pretty late and no mitigating circumstances. The goalie should have undergone an independent HIA as well.
To be fair I think he was 100% going for the ball and the keeper just got there ahead of him. Certainly a booking but I think a straight red would have been pretty harsh.
Na, his fist arrived well after the ball, he knew exactly what he was doing. He was leaving a marker but caught him sweet, was there much difference between that one and Cluxton last week?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 18, 2018, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 18, 2018, 01:04:48 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 18, 2018, 12:53:04 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 18, 2018, 12:48:55 PM
How was Comer not booked for the cheap shot on the Roscommon goalie?
It was a straight red card in any other sport, pretty late and no mitigating circumstances. The goalie should have undergone an independent HIA as well.
To be fair I think he was 100% going for the ball and the keeper just got there ahead of him. Certainly a booking but I think a straight red would have been pretty harsh.
Na, his fist arrived well after the ball, he knew exactly what he was doing. He was leaving a marker but caught him sweet, was there much difference between that one and Cluxton last week?
Well the Longford player never attempted a play on the ball at all. Comer did so I'd say there is a fair old difference alright. It was a bit late and arguably reckless but there wasn't enough there for a straight red for me. Even the Roscommon players around didn't seem overly bothered by it.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 18, 2018, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 18, 2018, 01:04:48 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 18, 2018, 12:53:04 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 18, 2018, 12:48:55 PM
How was Comer not booked for the cheap shot on the Roscommon goalie?
It was a straight red card in any other sport, pretty late and no mitigating circumstances. The goalie should have undergone an independent HIA as well.
To be fair I think he was 100% going for the ball and the keeper just got there ahead of him. Certainly a booking but I think a straight red would have been pretty harsh.
Na, his fist arrived well after the ball, he knew exactly what he was doing. He was leaving a marker but caught him sweet, was there much difference between that one and Cluxton last week?
Looked like a straight red alright. He somehow avoided any card and then booked moments later. Would have been a very different game if Galway had to play with 14 men.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 18, 2018, 12:49:04 PM
The one massive difference with Galway this year is squad depth from midfield up (it's not as good in the backs though), Cooke is a great option off the bench, Army made a telling contribution yesterday, Varley has done well in the brief time he has got and there were no minutes at all for Michael Daly. Danny Cummins not even in the 26 yesterday.
Poor old Michael Daly is the forgotten man this year so far. Missed the league with injury and it put him well behind everyone else and hasn't been able to force his way back in so far. Not even getting off the bench yesterday. You'd imagine he'd be perfect to take the number 11 jersey if McHugh were dropped but I'd say it's more likely Army would take his place at this stage.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 18, 2018, 01:33:16 PM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on June 18, 2018, 12:49:04 PM
The one massive difference with Galway this year is squad depth from midfield up (it's not as good in the backs though), Cooke is a great option off the bench, Army made a telling contribution yesterday, Varley has done well in the brief time he has got and there were no minutes at all for Michael Daly. Danny Cummins not even in the 26 yesterday.
Poor old Michael Daly is the forgotten man this year so far. Missed the league with injury and it put him well behind everyone else and hasn't been able to force his way back in so far. Not even getting off the bench yesterday. You'd imagine he'd be perfect to take the number 11 jersey if McHugh were dropped but I'd say it's more likely Army would take his place at this stage.
The Super 8 will throw up injuries and loss of form
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 18, 2018, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 18, 2018, 01:04:48 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 18, 2018, 12:53:04 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 18, 2018, 12:48:55 PM
How was Comer not booked for the cheap shot on the Roscommon goalie?
It was a straight red card in any other sport, pretty late and no mitigating circumstances. The goalie should have undergone an independent HIA as well.
To be fair I think he was 100% going for the ball and the keeper just got there ahead of him. Certainly a booking but I think a straight red would have been pretty harsh.
Na, his fist arrived well after the ball, he knew exactly what he was doing. He was leaving a marker but caught him sweet, was there much difference between that one and Cluxton last week?
Not sure if it was a Red or a Yellow, but it was no accident. Ball was well gone.
It's all over for another year so closing the thread.
Good campaign for Galway winning it and beating the 3 next best teams on the way. Disaster for Sligo, Leitrim at least beat NY which wasn't expected in many quarters.
Poor campaign for us and yesterday esp the 2nd half a major disappointment.
Indeed the last 50 minutes after the first goal we were outscored 14 pts to 1-2.
3 scores in 50 minutes!!!!
Best wishes to all the Connacht teams in the AI series.