Tyrone County Football and Hurling

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marty34

Quote from: redzone on November 15, 2020, 07:19:54 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 15, 2020, 12:58:50 PM
Quote from: Angelo on November 15, 2020, 12:52:20 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 15, 2020, 12:35:07 PM
Tyrone need to appoint an experienced inter county manager, to control expectations and maintain the team at the highest level. Malachy O Rourke is the stand out candidate in this respect, lives in Tyrone. Great knowledge of the players already. He would have high expectations of bringing further success to the team. Throw in  F.Logan , C.Holmes , R Mc Menamin into the coaching team, to move the county forward.

Malachy O'Rourke recently took on the Glen job in Derry.

So you think, Tyrone haven't the option of approaching Malachy O Rourke because he has taken over in Glen  or is it unreasonable to think Glen could get a different manager .

Either way, an experienced manager for Tyrone is needed, it ain't the time to appoint a novice !
Yes orouke has got to be the preferred candidate. Tally was never a contender, certainly not in as manager anyway.
An ulster title within 2 years would be the minimum I'd expect with the new management, whoever they are. In theory we should have a much stronger squad available next year presuming everyone puts themselves forward

Gaa people are getting like soccer people now. Give him a set period of time or he's out!!

Does anybody think it's always the manager's fault?

Anybody ever think the players just aren't good enough...yet?

Same today with Tally, all his fault is it? When do players actually show a bit of metal 10 mins into the second half and try to wrestle control back.

People talk about kickouts - do you really think the manager is telling a senior inter-county player where to kick the kick out to every time?

Get real.  Players need to take some responsibility.

redzone

Quote from: marty34 on November 15, 2020, 07:28:38 PM
Quote from: redzone on November 15, 2020, 07:19:54 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 15, 2020, 12:58:50 PM
Quote from: Angelo on November 15, 2020, 12:52:20 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 15, 2020, 12:35:07 PM
Tyrone need to appoint an experienced inter county manager, to control expectations and maintain the team at the highest level. Malachy O Rourke is the stand out candidate in this respect, lives in Tyrone. Great knowledge of the players already. He would have high expectations of bringing further success to the team. Throw in  F.Logan , C.Holmes , R Mc Menamin into the coaching team, to move the county forward.

Malachy O'Rourke recently took on the Glen job in Derry.

So you think, Tyrone haven't the option of approaching Malachy O Rourke because he has taken over in Glen  or is it unreasonable to think Glen could get a different manager .

Either way, an experienced manager for Tyrone is needed, it ain't the time to appoint a novice !
Yes orouke has got to be the preferred candidate. Tally was never a contender, certainly not in as manager anyway.
An ulster title within 2 years would be the minimum I'd expect with the new management, whoever they are. In theory we should have a much stronger squad available next year presuming everyone puts themselves forward

Gaa people are getting like soccer people now. Give him a set period of time or he's out!!

Does anybody think it's always the manager's fault?

Anybody ever think the players just aren't good enough...yet?

Same today with Tally, all his fault is it? When do players actually show a bit of metal 10 mins into the second half and try to wrestle control back.

People talk about kickouts - do you really think the manager is telling a senior inter-county player where to kick the kick out to every time?

Get real.  Players need to take some responsibility.
Were above did anyone say about a set period of time or he's out you moron. Then you go off on a rant about kick outs.

marty34

Quote from: redzone on November 15, 2020, 08:22:42 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 15, 2020, 07:28:38 PM
Quote from: redzone on November 15, 2020, 07:19:54 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 15, 2020, 12:58:50 PM
Quote from: Angelo on November 15, 2020, 12:52:20 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 15, 2020, 12:35:07 PM
Tyrone need to appoint an experienced inter county manager, to control expectations and maintain the team at the highest level. Malachy O Rourke is the stand out candidate in this respect, lives in Tyrone. Great knowledge of the players already. He would have high expectations of bringing further success to the team. Throw in  F.Logan , C.Holmes , R Mc Menamin into the coaching team, to move the county forward.

Malachy O'Rourke recently took on the Glen job in Derry.

So you think, Tyrone haven't the option of approaching Malachy O Rourke because he has taken over in Glen  or is it unreasonable to think Glen could get a different manager .

Either way, an experienced manager for Tyrone is needed, it ain't the time to appoint a novice !
Yes orouke has got to be the preferred candidate. Tally was never a contender, certainly not in as manager anyway.
An ulster title within 2 years would be the minimum I'd expect with the new management, whoever they are. In theory we should have a much stronger squad available next year presuming everyone puts themselves forward

Gaa people are getting like soccer people now. Give him a set period of time or he's out!!

Does anybody think it's always the manager's fault?

Anybody ever think the players just aren't good enough...yet?

Same today with Tally, all his fault is it? When do players actually show a bit of metal 10 mins into the second half and try to wrestle control back.

People talk about kickouts - do you really think the manager is telling a senior inter-county player where to kick the kick out to every time?

Get real.  Players need to take some responsibility.
Were above did anyone say about a set period of time or he's out you moron. Then you go off on a rant about kick outs.


Have a quiet word with yourself.

Million

Mickey just on Radio Ulster there, seems a shame he didn't get the extra year based on what he was saying. Very well spoken as always, the man who masterminded it all, a legend whose shoes will be very hard to fill by the eventual successor.

Unfortunately all good things must come to an end. He mentioned about making the players better people, obviously failed with the Instagram dog accounts a couple of players have!

Angelo

Quote from: marty34 on November 15, 2020, 07:28:38 PM
Quote from: redzone on November 15, 2020, 07:19:54 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 15, 2020, 12:58:50 PM
Quote from: Angelo on November 15, 2020, 12:52:20 PM
Quote from: delgany on November 15, 2020, 12:35:07 PM
Tyrone need to appoint an experienced inter county manager, to control expectations and maintain the team at the highest level. Malachy O Rourke is the stand out candidate in this respect, lives in Tyrone. Great knowledge of the players already. He would have high expectations of bringing further success to the team. Throw in  F.Logan , C.Holmes , R Mc Menamin into the coaching team, to move the county forward.

Malachy O'Rourke recently took on the Glen job in Derry.

So you think, Tyrone haven't the option of approaching Malachy O Rourke because he has taken over in Glen  or is it unreasonable to think Glen could get a different manager .

Either way, an experienced manager for Tyrone is needed, it ain't the time to appoint a novice !
Yes orouke has got to be the preferred candidate. Tally was never a contender, certainly not in as manager anyway.
An ulster title within 2 years would be the minimum I'd expect with the new management, whoever they are. In theory we should have a much stronger squad available next year presuming everyone puts themselves forward

Gaa people are getting like soccer people now. Give him a set period of time or he's out!!

Does anybody think it's always the manager's fault?

Anybody ever think the players just aren't good enough...yet?

Same today with Tally, all his fault is it? When do players actually show a bit of metal 10 mins into the second half and try to wrestle control back.

People talk about kickouts - do you really think the manager is telling a senior inter-county player where to kick the kick out to every time?

Get real.  Players need to take some responsibility.

The work on kickouts is done on the training ground. If you look at the Down game yesterday, in the second half the Down keeper kept bombing it down on the right flank and Cavan kept winning them. The top management teams will have plans and strategies to deal with this rather than repeating something that keeps going wrong. Donegal blew Armagh away in about a 5 minute spell yesterday due to their kickout dominance.

I think its something whoever the new manager is will have to do a serious amount of work with us on. If you look at the last three games against Donegal we've played - we have got eaten alive on kickouts that went long into the middle of the field. We're not very good at chasing games, tight games when we're a few points down and have to go and win that primary possession.
GAA FUNDING CHEATS CHEAT US ALL

bannslide

Looking from the outside in here but following with interest.

Feargal Logan has been hotly tipped as the man to take over in Tyrone along with his back room team from 2015 all Ireland success.

Who exactly does this involve and where have they been since then?

Massive pressure on this new ticket to deliver within their initial 2 years.

GetOverTheBar

Quote from: bannslide on November 16, 2020, 02:11:20 PM
Looking from the outside in here but following with interest.

Feargal Logan has been hotly tipped as the man to take over in Tyrone along with his back room team from 2015 all Ireland success.

Who exactly does this involve and where have they been since then?


Massive pressure on this new ticket to deliver within their initial 2 years.

It was Logan, with Brian Dooher and Peter Canavan as selectors I believe. No idea what Dooher has been doing in football, I think maybe still with some of the development teams in some capacity? Canavan is obviously on the TV.

Lorcan Martin was in that set up too, he recently led Edendork to an Intermediate Double as a manager in his own right. He was the S+C coach at the time, I don't know how Harte leaving affects Jonny Davies role in the set up - I assume that means he's out too.

Club boi

Quote from: GetOverTheBar on November 16, 2020, 02:23:16 PM
Quote from: bannslide on November 16, 2020, 02:11:20 PM
Looking from the outside in here but following with interest.

Feargal Logan has been hotly tipped as the man to take over in Tyrone along with his back room team from 2015 all Ireland success.

Who exactly does this involve and where have they been since then?


Massive pressure on this new ticket to deliver within their initial 2 years.

It was Logan, with Brian Dooher and Peter Canavan as selectors I believe. No idea what Dooher has been doing in football, I think maybe still with some of the development teams in some capacity? Canavan is obviously on the TV.

Lorcan Martin was in that set up too, he recently led Edendork to an Intermediate Double as a manager in his own right. He was the S+C coach at the time, I don't know how Harte leaving affects Jonny Davies role in the set up - I assume that means he's out too.

Would he not be self emplyed contracted in ??

Was Logan not over stewartstown recently and didnt deliver much??
Dooher no idea
Canavan handy Sky commitments

bannslide

I thought that Peter Donnelly was also involved with that set up. He'd hardly now make another return to his own county after the the Monaghan disaster?

Was Brian Dooher with his own club or has he done anything of note since this?

You'd imagine that if Lurcan Martin has had success with Edendork that he'll want to stay there with potential of Ulster club maybe making a return in early 2021 which has been rumoured or maybe now is the best time to leave and join Tyrone after having a very successful season.

Seems that there are a lot of uncertainties around whole be involved and what experience they actually have.

Would Liam Donnelly be a potential selector?

square_ball

Cavanagh with a poor tribute to Harte on the Sunday Game last night. Lucky to inherit those minor teams? Wise up Sean.

GetOverTheBar

Quote from: bannslide on November 16, 2020, 03:24:33 PM
I thought that Peter Donnelly was also involved with that set up. He'd hardly now make another return to his own county after the the Monaghan disaster?

Was Brian Dooher with his own club or has he done anything of note since this?

You'd imagine that if Lurcan Martin has had success with Edendork that he'll want to stay there with potential of Ulster club maybe making a return in early 2021 which has been rumoured or maybe now is the best time to leave and join Tyrone after having a very successful season.

Seems that there are a lot of uncertainties around whole be involved and what experience they actually have.

Would Liam Donnelly be a potential selector?

Couldn't see it with the sons being involved in the set up. Same issue as Canavan and indeed Mickey and nephew Peter. Not worth the headache, even though both are probably starters if fit, no questions asked.

I don't think Dooher has had anything to do with CNG since retirement, but maybe some of the posters from that club could verify further.

As for Jonny Davies / Peter Donnelly. Davies was taken in because Donnelly could only offer part time. Reading between the lines, Davies is a full time employee, but under what terms probably could get something like that from the Tyrone site. He was part of Mickey Hartes team, Mickey is now gone so you assume by that so is Gavin Devlin, Davies and your man Madden. 

bigpackiechestout

Quote from: square_ball on November 16, 2020, 03:42:17 PM
Cavanagh with a poor tribute to Harte on the Sunday Game last night. Lucky to inherit those minor teams? Wise up Sean.

Cavanagh really is letting himself down a bagful on a consistent basis ever since he's retired from county football. Has there ever been a player in the GAA that's went down so much in the estimations of their own county's supporters after retiring from playing?

Angelo

Quote from: bigpackiechestout on November 16, 2020, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 16, 2020, 03:42:17 PM
Cavanagh with a poor tribute to Harte on the Sunday Game last night. Lucky to inherit those minor teams? Wise up Sean.

Cavanagh really is letting himself down a bagful on a consistent basis ever since he's retired from county football. Has there ever been a player in the GAA that's went down so much in the estimations of their own county's supporters after retiring from playing?

Cavanagh is a bit of an idiot, great player but as you said it's hard take to him on TV though it was finally good to see someone giving that w**ker O'Rourke some home truths.
GAA FUNDING CHEATS CHEAT US ALL

Club boi

Quote from: Angelo on November 16, 2020, 04:34:06 PM
Quote from: bigpackiechestout on November 16, 2020, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 16, 2020, 03:42:17 PM
Cavanagh with a poor tribute to Harte on the Sunday Game last night. Lucky to inherit those minor teams? Wise up Sean.

Cavanagh really is letting himself down a bagful on a consistent basis ever since he's retired from county football. Has there ever been a player in the GAA that's went down so much in the estimations of their own county's supporters after retiring from playing?

Cavanagh is a bit of an idiot, great player but as you said it's hard take to him on TV though it was finally good to see someone giving that w**ker O'Rourke some home truths.

WoW

We actually finally agree on something. Cavanagh is all about self promotion

tyroneman

Quote from: Club boi on November 16, 2020, 05:24:29 PM
Quote from: Angelo on November 16, 2020, 04:34:06 PM
Quote from: bigpackiechestout on November 16, 2020, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: square_ball on November 16, 2020, 03:42:17 PM
Cavanagh with a poor tribute to Harte on the Sunday Game last night. Lucky to inherit those minor teams? Wise up Sean.

Cavanagh really is letting himself down a bagful on a consistent basis ever since he's retired from county football. Has there ever been a player in the GAA that's went down so much in the estimations of their own county's supporters after retiring from playing?

Cavanagh is a bit of an idiot, great player but as you said it's hard take to him on TV though it was finally good to see someone giving that w**ker O'Rourke some home truths.

WoW

We actually finally agree on something. Cavanagh is all about self promotion

What did he say to O'Royrke??