Money, Dublin and the GAA

Started by IolarCoisCuain, October 04, 2016, 07:27:37 PM

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tippabu

I'd love to see the true costs counties put into teams. All these figures that go about regarding counties, in Dublin, tipp, Galway, cork how much of it goes to the football teams and how much towards the hurling teams. I know we had both senior teams away at fota island last weekend. With these 4 counties especially you have both teams playing at reasonably high standards. Compare that with mayo, Tyrone, Donegal, how much of the teams expenditure figures go towards each of their county hurling teams?

Last year the ones I'd like to focus on would be for example is all mayo just over 1.5m and limerick just over 1.1m. It's fair to say neither would be overly worried about hurling or football in limericks case. Compare that to galway almost 1.3m and tipp just over 1m who would both have reasonably good football teams as well as the best hurling teams. You'd imagine the majority would be going towards their hurlers but take Wicklow, 2nd lowest spenders, they're funds would primarily be going on football and they spend almost 400k on their team. If tipp were spending 600k on the hurlers then that's 400k on the footballers being 2nd lowest in the country.

Sorry if this is all over the place and could be completely wrong, just something I was thinking

The Hill is Blue

Quote from: mup on May 09, 2018, 09:15:38 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2018, 04:22:56 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/dublin-gaa-and-aig-agree-new-fiveyear-sponsorship-deal-36885688.html

Well done Dublin GAA!!

Amateur sport my hole!

Sure everything is fine.  The cash cow keep the coffers healthy at HQ.

So pipe down minions.



Kildare went through a few bob in their time - not too much to show for it though.
I remember Dublin City in the Rare Old Times http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T7OaDDR7i8

mup

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on May 09, 2018, 07:35:01 PM
Quote from: mup on May 09, 2018, 09:15:38 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2018, 04:22:56 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/dublin-gaa-and-aig-agree-new-fiveyear-sponsorship-deal-36885688.html

Well done Dublin GAA!!

Amateur sport my hole!

Sure everything is fine.  The cash cow keep the coffers healthy at HQ.

So pipe down minions.



Kildare went through a few bob in their time - not too much to show for it though.

Another Dub programmed to deflect.

Kuwabatake Sanjuro

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on May 09, 2018, 07:35:01 PM


Kildare went through a few bob in their time - not too much to show for it though.

The Kildare supporters club when headed up by Michael Osbourne was successful at raising funds 30 years ago and by getting Micko was successful in taking Kildare out of the doldrums but I don't see how that is relevant these days when local businessmen would have more interest in rugby or golf. When there is no prospect or hope of success it is hard to get going. Maybe a B championship might change everything.

From the Bunker

Quote from: mup on May 09, 2018, 09:30:04 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on May 09, 2018, 07:35:01 PM
Quote from: mup on May 09, 2018, 09:15:38 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2018, 04:22:56 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/dublin-gaa-and-aig-agree-new-fiveyear-sponsorship-deal-36885688.html

Well done Dublin GAA!!

Amateur sport my hole!

Sure everything is fine.  The cash cow keep the coffers healthy at HQ.

So pipe down minions.



Kildare went through a few bob in their time - not too much to show for it though.

Another Dub programmed to deflect.


Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

highorlow

#786
QuoteAccording to a recent report Dublin have received €16,612,847 in coaching and development grants in the past decade and a half while Laois have picked up €864,376.

Fair play to the Examiner, they bring this up every so often , the above quote is from today, the below quotes are from last March


QuoteIn the period 2007-2017, Dublin received €16.6m in direct coaching assistance, €15.4m more than Cork, the next highest county, and €15.8m more than Galway (€784,077).

Connacht in its entirety collectively received €3.1m.


QuoteMost clubs across Dublin receive subsidies of around €15,000 to €20,000 towards the employment of club coaches, which in turn help clubs drive large membership incomes.


Another source of funding for Dublin clubs is the use of the Clubhouse for social functions. I played a junior match in the Thomas Davis club (on one of their fields) on a Sunday morning and by the time our match was finished the clubhouse was full for one of those sky "super sunday" days. I was told that it's the same every Sunday during the year. Clean up operation here in Dublin.











They get momentum, they go mad, here they go

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: highorlow on May 10, 2018, 11:43:54 AM
QuoteAccording to a recent report Dublin have received €16,612,847 in coaching and development grants in the past decade and a half while Laois have picked up €864,376.

Fair play to the Examiner, they bring this up every so often , the above quote is from today, the below quotes are from last March


QuoteIn the period 2007-2017, Dublin received €16.6m in direct coaching assistance, €15.4m more than Cork, the next highest county, and €15.8m more than Galway (€784,077).

Connacht in its entirety collectively received €3.1m.


QuoteMost clubs across Dublin receive subsidies of around €15,000 to €20,000 towards the employment of club coaches, which in turn help clubs drive large membership incomes.


Another source of funding for Dublin clubs is the use of the Clubhouse for social functions. I played a junior match in the Thomas Davis club (on one of their fields) on a Sunday morning and by the time our match was finished the clubhouse was full for one of those sky "super sunday" days. I was told that it's the same every Sunday during the year. Clean up operation here in Dublin.
What's a clubhouse?
Dressing rooms and a small meeting room and that's it for our club

highorlow

#788
QuoteWhat's a clubhouse?
Dressing rooms and a small meeting room and that's it for our club

The massive red thing in the picture in the article here from 2015 that happens to be about tax payers funds allocation to Dublin GAA clubs.


http://www.echo.ie/news/article/local-gaa-clubs-in-south-dublin-benefit-from-over-800000-funds-allocation


QuoteThomas Davis will use its funding toward the construction of a ground floor and first floor extension to its clubhouse which will include a tuck shop, a new sports treatment room and extended lounge and games room – planning permission was granted in June.





They get momentum, they go mad, here they go


Main Street

Quote from: MayoBuck on May 09, 2018, 02:09:32 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on May 09, 2018, 01:20:33 PM
Quote from: maigheo on May 09, 2018, 11:53:25 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 09, 2018, 08:11:50 AM
Mayo were going to have a commercial manager. Nothing happened about it though.
the county board says they could not afford to hire one. :(

That's unfortunate with Mayo's all of Ireland fan base.

Money arrives in different ways for different purposes, Mayo received an additional €5 million grant from Croke Park for the redevelopment of McHale Park. Nice money if you can get it.

There was no grant. We're just making the repayments to croke park instead of the bank. It's still costing us over 30k per month.
30k a month, for how many years?


CJ2017

#791
On the financial report it says

"Loan Interest McHale Park to Croke Park for 2017 was €164,596 - 2017
for 2016 €169,095"

must be running at circa €12/€15,000 a month perhaps?

"have seen an article saying Mayo make payments of somewhere in the region of €33,000 per month over the next 29 years tho"

Under Schedule 2 it has
Sponsorship €537,445 for 2017

AIG's Dublin is around €800,000 a year.  (5mil over 4 yrs)

Still pretty good for Mayo with the sponsorship if all correct!




Main Street

Quote from: CJ2017 on May 10, 2018, 02:01:19 PM
On the financial report it says

"Loan Interest McHale Park to Croke Park for 2017 was €164,596 - 2017
for 2016 €169,095"

must be running at circa €12/€15,000 a month perhaps?

"have seen an article saying Mayo make payments of somewhere in the region of €33,000 per month over the next 29 years tho"

Under Schedule 2 it has
Sponsorship €537,445 for 2017

AIG's Dublin is around €800,000 a year.  (5mil over 4 yrs)

Still pretty good for Mayo with the sponsorship if all correct!

Though I have little in the way of financial nous, that looks to be about 3.5% interest on the €5m
And €33k a month sounds about right for a 20year loan on those terms.

Croke Park must regard Mayo to be a low risk investment :)

Maroon Manc

Quote from: Main Street on May 10, 2018, 02:34:13 PM
Quote from: CJ2017 on May 10, 2018, 02:01:19 PM
On the financial report it says

"Loan Interest McHale Park to Croke Park for 2017 was €164,596 - 2017
for 2016 €169,095"

must be running at circa €12/€15,000 a month perhaps?

"have seen an article saying Mayo make payments of somewhere in the region of €33,000 per month over the next 29 years tho"

Under Schedule 2 it has
Sponsorship €537,445 for 2017

AIG's Dublin is around €800,000 a year.  (5mil over 4 yrs)

Still pretty good for Mayo with the sponsorship if all correct!

Though I have little in the way of financial nous, that looks to be about 3.5% interest on the €5m
And €33k a month sounds about right for a 20year loan on those terms.

Croke Park must regard Mayo to be a low risk investment :)

HQ's bail out has saved them 15,000 euro's a month. They were paying the Ulster Bank 48,000 a month.

CJ2017

Anyone know how much the Kerry Group deal is worth to Kerry
doesnt seem to be anything out in the public domain that i can find,
on their website they say the Kerry group donated 1 million euros
towards the centre of excellence. Friends of Kerry 700k.

A lot of talk about Leitrim only getting 20k for the jersey sponsorship.
In light of what Dublin/AIG deal is 800k a year, Mayo appear to be 537k for last year,

Anyone know Kerrys deal or others?