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[I am even more confused now by the rule than I was when i didnt actually know what it was]

Even this bit doesnt make sense

5.44   
When an Aggressive Foul is committed, the Referee may allow the play to continue if the referee considers that this presents the potential of a goal-scoring opportunity or another advantage to the team offended by creating or capitalising on time and space. The Referee shall signal that advantage by raising an arm upright and shall allow the advantage to run by maintaining that arm in the upright position for up to five seconds after the foul or for less time if it becomes clear that no advantage has accrued. If the referee deems no advantage to have accrued, the Referee may subsequently award a free for the foul from where it occurred, except as provided under Exceptions (v) and (vi) of Rule 2.2

The referee may allow the play to continue if there is a potential for an advantage in the next five seconds but can allow less if no advantage accrues in that lesser time.  What if no advantage accrues after say 3 seconds but one might still occur.  What does the ref do?  The tenses are wrong are they not?

I am even more confused now by the rule than I was when i didnt actually know what it was

 

[Foul Subsequent to Advantage AwardIf, during the advantage period, a foul is committed by a player of the team which was originally fouled then the advantage is cancelled and a free kick/puck awarded for the "second" foul.]

And how is the fouled player to know he has an advantage? eyes in the back of his head?
It's a totally idiotic advantage rule when you can lose the advantage inside 4 seconds.

If a player does happen to notice that he has the advantage, can he stop play and say, 'thanks ref but I want the free kick not the so called advantage'?

No, he has to 'honestly' play on and make the ref call it that no advantage is being gained.

I think a ref would give the free in the case of getting bottled up, as it would be clear no advantage is being gained at the start of the bottling up.

It's where the attacking player overcarries for no ones fault but their own that a foul would be called.

A simple rule made into a minefield by the powers that be. The addition to the rule in the official guide / rules (effective from March 2024), in the referee's handbook (which was obviously news to me yesterday, and I want state on record that I'm delighted to have this new rule add-on learnt to let rip at a future game) states:

Foul Subsequent to Advantage Award
If, during the advantage period, a foul is committed by a player of the team which was originally fouled then the advantage is cancelled and a free kick/puck awarded for the "second" foul.

The above is not stated in the Official Playing Rules.

5.44   
When an Aggressive Foul is committed, the Referee may allow the play to continue if the referee considers that this presents the potential of a goal-scoring opportunity or another advantage to the team offended by creating or capitalising on time and space. The Referee shall signal that advantage by raising an arm upright and shall allow the advantage to run by maintaining that arm in the upright position for up to five seconds afterthe foul or for less time if it becomes clear that no advantage has accrued. If the referee deems no advantage to have accrued, the Referee may subsequently award a free for the foul from where it occurred, except as provided under Exceptions (v) and (vi) of Rule 2.2

For clarity Rule 2.2 (v and vi)

(v)When play is restarted by throwing in the ball after a foul(s) within 13m ofthe sideline, the throw-in shall be given 13m from the sideline and directly infield from where the foul(s) occurred.
(vi) When play is restarted by throwing in the ball after a foul(s) between the endline and the 20m line, the throw-in shall be given on the 20m line opposite where the foul(s)        occurred, subject to the provisions stated in



On the rule itself, if a player (hypothetical scenario, the player is bursting into the big D, 20m out from goal) is fouled, the ref's hand goes up to signal 5 seconds advantage, the player breaks free and shoots from 15m out, dead centre, misses, the ref will call it back. 2 bites of the cherry if you will.
Now, the same player takes 6 steps trying evade another defender, maybe he's been knocked off balance during the first tackle, commits a technical foul, maybe charges into another player, and loses the advantage.
Before the advantage rule was brought in, the player would have just got the very scorable free. Now, he could get either 2 easy shots for a score or nothing. Once the hands goes up, he has 5 seconds to not foul or he loses the free. He can't shout to ref  'here, I'll take the free thanks'..

If, for example, Conor Loftus during the final play in yesterday's Connacht final had been initially fouled and Gough's hand was up giving Loftus his 5 seconds advantage when the 2 Galway players tackled him (you can't tackle a man's neck and face, but that's for another day), Loftus was deemed to have committed a technical foul ie over carried the ball and would therefore have lost his advantage. In the olden days, Loftus gets his free, batters it up the pitch, game over.

Advantage 101 by the GAA

You don't seem happy to stand corrected, if I'm honest.

 , thank you too. If the GAA could sync the official rulebook with the referees handbook, that would make the island happier, not just me

[Foul Subsequent to Advantage Award]

During the advantage period of 5 seconds, I thought any technical fouls by the attacking player was a free against them. i.e you can't just stand there or overcarry to claim the free.

Eamonn Fitzmaurice said the ref came back for the advantage after Conroy overcarried in the 1st half.

I thought you could. Otherwise what's the point of the advantage it would actually at times be a disadvantage

No a technical foul during the advantage should result in reversal of the original decision

Eh? Where you getting this from? It's literally an advantage, not 'might be an advantage'! Have you ever seen advantage reversed in any game due to a technical foul, ever?

Foul Subsequent to Advantage Award
If, during the advantage period, a foul is committed by a player of the team which was originally fouled then the advantage is cancelled and a free kick/puck awarded for the "second" foul.

Thanks. So this rule above, which isn't in the official GAA rule book, is only stated in the referee's handbook. Couldn't be anymore from the 'world of GAA rules' if it tried.

He's getting it straight from the rule book.

OK, send in the rule / wording, I'm happy to stand corrected

During the advantage period of 5 seconds, I thought any technical fouls by the attacking player was a free against them. i.e you can't just stand there or overcarry to claim the free.

Eamonn Fitzmaurice said the ref came back for the advantage after Conroy overcarried in the 1st half.

I thought you could. Otherwise what's the point of the advantage it would actually at times be a disadvantage

No a technical foul during the advantage should result in reversal of the original decision

Eh? Where you getting this from? It's literally an advantage, not 'might be an advantage'! Have you ever seen advantage reversed in any game due to a technical foul, ever?

Derry Away to Galway, would preferred Mayo to be honest, for no other fact than we normally play well against them,and crap against Galway. Mayo to suffer further at the hands of the Dubs. Is that Mayos home game?

Would have preferred Mayo too, parking handier and shorter drive 

Cillian O'Choker does it again!

That's your take on a man who has the balls to take the shot on with the rest of the Mayo team playing the ball laterally a minute over added time

You're some clown

That's a bad call there, Mayo man was fouled twice. Gough  made a bad mistake there.

Two extremely lucky frees to win it. The 2nd last, Maher goes down to pick the ball up when he's nowhere near it win a free(did exactly the same against Derry, indeed he threw himself across Conor Doherty injuring him), very crafty move. 3 men batter Loftus and it's a free in. Thems the breaks. Super game between two very good teams

Comer will destroy any fullback with time and space like that.

Comer not the most clinical of finishers.

Yet he's still one of the dangerous forwards the games seen... Have you seen Galway's win / loss percentages with Comer playing / not playing?

I think Galway needed to be ahead at h/t. Alot to ask men to return and put in a huge 70+ mins in championship

kerry lads exempt from been yellow carded. Do a lot of fouling.  Thee u20s were the same the other night.

The holding in the tackle (choke tackle) is probably the biggest blight in the game... Teams spread it around, rarely if ever a yellow and it stops any momentum

G getting a fair drop off the panel for some them lads named in the match day squads.

It's crazy though surely your nos 21-30 should be allowed to play with their clubs I don't understand why you wouldn't let them??

Also lads need competitive football. The worry for Derry now is Harte doesn't play challenge games so our lads have no competitive football for 4 weeks then go away to a provincial champion!

Sure we'll be fresh and not burnt out! Though, Harte didn't do warm weather training weeks, until he did, before the 1st Rd of the championship, so you never know

[he has to give a presentation on the values of the game.]

I see the ex-England player, Mike Browne, was sent off recently for a head challenge.

He then started to swear at the referee.

He is suspended for two weeks.

As part of this process, he has to give a presentation on the values of the game. This will be then used for educational purposes and help demonstrate that behaviour like this will not be tolerated in rugby.

No messing there by the rugby lads.

GAA HQ should take a good look at this. 

Hope sanctimonious w**k like this never becomes mainstream in the GAA. Too many Kool-Aid drinkers in rugby. Can promote respect for the referee without banging on how noble the game itself is.

100+ years in and how's that going? 

So there we have it, Wilson v Jones. Can't wait 🤓

Doesn't exactly wet the appetite. That Jones and Bingham game was a bit of a slog at times. Bingham be disappointed he couldn't carry on the form he showed against ROS.

Expect Wilson to win the final comfortable enough but I suppose Jones has been written off all tournament.

Wilson's to lose, unless there's another bottle job









































 

[Only a money making machine if people are going over the limit?]

Only a money making machine if people are going over the limit?

I've been done many times with the cameras over the years, no excuse, speeding and wrong, do I blame the camera for being there? No that's all on me. Anyone that thinks they can speed 'safely' is crazy

If they put the average speed cameras on the road would it make it safer? Wouldn't know the stats on the accidents  in regards to speeding, carelessness, recklessness and so on, but in the meantime till its sorted it needs some attention.

What stage is it at with planning and at what point will they government say we've taken into considerations your issues of not having it but we are going ahead with it anyways? 

Yes 100%, but it's more the optics of it. Another horrific crash on the A5, and the following morning there's a speed van (of which I'm sure there is only a limited nunber) in a safe part of the A5 trying to catch motorists doing 5mph over the 30 approaching an overtaking lane. The van definitely be out on the A5, but situated near an accident black spot.... Was a hot topic of conversation among the Strabanimals and Omagh folk in our work yesterday

If you're doing 35mph in a 30 you deserve a fine. There's a reason it's 30 and not 40.

"If you hit a pedestrian: at 40 mph there is a 90 percent chance they will be killed. at 35 mph there is a 50 percent chance they will be killed. at 30 mph there is a 20 percent chance they will be killed."

This I know, I said it's the optics of it and went on to explain. I definitely don't need lectured in road safety