Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

[Norf Tyrone]

Urney won this morning. I thought all games had to stay at same time?

Gortin v Rock called off?

[on the sideline]

Urney won this morning. I thought all games had to stay at same time?

Gortin v Rock called off?

Rock not fielding.  What's the punishment for not fielding at adult level?

[GlenMan]

Urney won this morning. I thought all games had to stay at same time?

Gortin v Rock called off?

Rock not fielding.  What's the punishment for not fielding at adult level?

There isn't one. As long as you give notice.

[on the sideline]

Urney won this morning. I thought all games had to stay at same time?

Gortin v Rock called off?

Rock not fielding.  What's the punishment for not fielding at adult level?

There isn't one. As long as you give notice.

Seriously? Surely there has to be something! Look at that one today just as an example - Rock not fielding effects the 3 teams above them - by not fielding they are rendering the scoring difference scenario for deciding which of Urney, Loughmacrory or Gortin ends up in the playoff void*  Had they fielded and been beaten then the scoring difference would have been enough to decide who ended up in the playoff. It's hardly fair on the two teams with the better scoring difference that they're now in a playoff for the playoff just because the Rock didn't field.  There has to be some kind of sanction to stop teams just not bothering to play.

*provided Loughmacrory beat Kildress

[clarshack]

looks like loughmacrory have beaten kildress. rock have created a clusterf*ck at the bottom of division 2 by not fielding today.

[leenie]

Augher to stay in division one
Moy to go automatically down
Clarkes and donaghmore in playoffs

[WT4E]

How did div 2 go today! Lough got the points off Kildress but how did everyone else do?

[on the sideline]

How did div 2 go today! Lough got the points off Kildress but how did everyone else do?

As expected - Urney and Loughmacrory won. Gortin got the points as Rock didn't field. Aghyaran beat Moortown. Derrylaughan beat Kileeshil.

[WT4E]

Apologies just found out lough beat Kildress fair and square - I wasn't at them match!!!!

[GaelTheGael]

According to Teamtalk Gortin go into a play off game against the Rock.
Surely that has to be a mistake considering Gortin have the best score difference of the three and have beaten both Loughmacrory and Urney in the league this year. Unless the Rock forfeiting points affects that scenario.
Anyone shed any light?

[Norf Tyrone]

The below has not copied very well but I am not sure Teamtalk are right. (1) There are more than 2 teams involved so head to head doesn't count so (2) as there was a W/O today scoring difference can't count.

My guess is Urney, Loughmacrory and Gortin (Edited) play off to see who meets Rock.


Except where provided for otherwise in County
Bye-Law or in Competition Regulation, when
Teams finish with equal points for Qualification
for the Concluding Stages, or for Promotion
or Relegation, the tie shall be decided by the
following means and in the order specified:
(i) Where two Teams only are involved - the
outcome of the meeting of the two Teams
in the previous game in the Competition;
(ii) Scoring Difference (subtracting the total
Scores Against from total Scores For);
(iii) Highest Total Score For;
(iv) A Play-Off.
Exceptions to (c):
(1) In relation to means (ii) and (iii) above,
CHAMPIONSHIPS
CLUB CHAMPIONSHIPS
Chapter 6 GA
MES &
COMPETITIONS
89
if the accumulated scores of a team, so
involved, are affected by a disqualification,
loss of game on a proven objection,
retirement or walk over, the tie shall be
decided by a Play-Off.

[on the sideline]

According to Teamtalk Gortin go into a play off game against the Rock.
Surely that has to be a mistake considering Gortin have the best score difference of the three and have beaten both Loughmacrory and Urney in the league this year. Unless the Rock forfeiting points affects that scenario.
Anyone shed any light?

They are wrong. 3 way playoff to see who plays Rock. Had Rock fielded today then it would have come down to scoring difference and it would have been Urney vrs Rock.  Seeing as they didn't field against Gortin then scoring difference cannot be used anymore between the 3 teams tied. 

Which brings me back to my point earlier - surely there has to be a sanction for not fielding in a senior match?

[tyroneboi]

CCC regulations say £100 fine so not much of a deterrent to clubs.

[clarshack]

According to Teamtalk Gortin go into a play off game against the Rock.
Surely that has to be a mistake considering Gortin have the best score difference of the three and have beaten both Loughmacrory and Urney in the league this year. Unless the Rock forfeiting points affects that scenario.
Anyone shed any light?

They are wrong. 3 way playoff to see who plays Rock. Had Rock fielded today then it would have come down to scoring difference and it would have been Urney vrs Rock.  Seeing as they didn't field against Gortin then scoring difference cannot be used anymore between the 3 teams tied. 

Which brings me back to my point earlier - surely there has to be a sanction for not fielding in a senior match?

there should be a substantial fine for not fielding even if notice is given.

[on the sideline]

According to Teamtalk Gortin go into a play off game against the Rock.
Surely that has to be a mistake considering Gortin have the best score difference of the three and have beaten both Loughmacrory and Urney in the league this year. Unless the Rock forfeiting points affects that scenario.
Anyone shed any light?

They are wrong. 3 way playoff to see who plays Rock. Had Rock fielded today then it would have come down to scoring difference and it would have been Urney vrs Rock.  Seeing as they didn't field against Gortin then scoring difference cannot be used anymore between the 3 teams tied. 

Which brings me back to my point earlier - surely there has to be a sanction for not fielding in a senior match?

there should be a substantial fine for not fielding even if notice is given.

I agree.