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That's a new one there! That's a joke in fairness.

England have to peak from the group stages onwards. I have my doubts about England I just don't see a World Cup in that squad.

Wales game is key. I don't ser either of them beating the Aussies and Wales are smash merchants as well at this stage so it will just be a savagely tight claustrophobic game probably decided on kicking and Wales have the advantage there. I'll be glued to it though I think it will be fascinating.

And that's why I think Owen Farrell will get the nod ahead of George Ford. Fiji as well in that group will be no pushovers either. Aussies are looking good though.

England have to peak from the group stages onwards. I have my doubts about England I just don't see a World Cup in that squad.

I see England have announced their squad. . . some big calls in there no Twelvetrees and the 2 Rugby league lads in. A statement of intent there with the bang crash game with those centres.

Also no place for Easter or Cipriani? If anything happens to George Ford they are goosed!!

It'll be interesting to see what Schmidt does. Trimble away back to Ulster this weekend is a big call. I would have thought he was ahead of Dave Kearney but I guess injury is a problem. Fitzgerald and Henshaw in the midfield this weekend is a very interesting one I think it's a partnership that could do well but is Fitzgerald strong enough in defence for that role?

Still more questions than answers at this stage but an intriguing few weeks ahead!

Tommy Bowe is playing with Ulster this weekend as well. I think the pair of them will be in the final 31. I'm not a huge fan of Fitzgerald at either centre or wing but seems to be a favourite of Schmidts. For me Healy is the interesting one. No one seems to know for certain what is going on there? I think he'll risk him in his squad though.

I definitely don't think that was a game Tyrone threw away! I think people are over estimating Tyrones performance a slight bit this morning. Kerry were comfortable enough for an all Ireland semi final up to the penalty and then upped it again thereafter to get the last 4 points. Tyrone played well but any losing team at any level always points to the what ifs afterwards.

No reason not to have a full schedule of remaining league and championship fixtures for the remainder of the year published this week.

Any dates for the junior semi finals lads?

Whats amazing in all this is that no-one has started a facebook campaign or petition to get McCann off.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Supporting-Tiernan-McCann/964948586880172?fref=ts

Brillant! Some great posts including flying a Tyrone flag in support of him. Feck me, ye love a flag in the North.

Free the Killyclogher one!!

That page is almost as embarrassing at the original incident!

Think he was taken off with a few minutes to go. Just didn't get going at all yesterday guess he just had one of those days.

The vast majority of Tyrone fans here have outright condemned McCann's actions.

But they haven't. They've rejoiced in it. You wouldn't expect any more from Tyrone people.

I know you're a pure WUM but show us a few examples of people 'rejoicing' in it??

The attitude from Tyrone people has been depressing but not at all surprising. Apologists for McCann and for Tyrone's cynicism and gamesmanship have been on full time duty here since 5:30pm yesterday. Tyrone people have form for this. After all, they've been defending the shameless diving of Philip Jordan, who deliberately got an opponent sent off for nothing in All-Ireland final, since 2003. Tyrone people are so practised in propaganda that they could work for Fox News.

Are you still moaning about Martin O'Connell and John McDermott by the way? Two players who had more manliness in their little fingers than than the current Tyrone panel put together can muster

Again show me these apologists for McCann?? I have yet to see one man defending him on here!

Agree with the above post about mccarron he seemed to have got serious abuse!

And an you anyone clear up whether Hughes got the red for the McCann hair ruffling or for clipping Richie Donnelly before that?

Can't condone McCann's actions. I've said since the days of Aidan O'Mahoneys dive v Cork it should carry a 1 match ban applied retrospectively. T'is the only way to address it.

Think there's a lot of hysteria about the rest of the game. Meath took out our talisman and team leader in 96 before trying a frontal lobotomy on Brian Dooher. They're remembered as a good hard team from a golden era from the rose-tinted brigade. The ending to today's game which ended in farce had a lot to do with the terrible refereeing of Duffy. f**k the match would have stood a better chance from the likes of Pat McEnaney or even god forbid Paddy Russell. The standard of refereeing today is f**king shambolic, Padraic Hughes, the Duffy's (because one wasn't enough) and Joe McQuillan represent the fresh-faced bullshit from modern HQ on how to be a ref, ie, pointless f**king box-tickers. The match had all the hallmarks of a ref who'd lost the respect of the players and hence the closing anarchy. Having handed out some very soft frees early to McAliskey, Cavanagh and McCrory he then turned his attention to screwing Tyrone instead of Monaghan by black carding Meyler. Several potential black cards for Tyrone were then overlooked off the back of this shitty call.

Cavanagh was very pumped for this game and put in a savage performance but was too highly strung. His yellow card had been coming and following it, Harte put him into FF where he couldn't rush in so rashly again. McNamee too became increasingly frustrated and aggressive towards the end of the game and many managers would have recognised as a player starting to lose the head and called him ashore. But Monaghan players too, most notably Finlay and Hughes crossed the line as regards their conduct. However, much to the ire of the players on the pitch, Duffy carried out no serious punishment for any of the indiscipline which in turn creates a scenario where players feel the need to meat out their out retribution.

I can't lay all the blame at Duffy's door. Finlay, Hughes, Cavanagh and McNamee were all over involved in the indiscipline and some or all of them could have seen the line but Duffy made matters much, much worse. By pedantically punishing minor indiscretions or wronging penalising the innocent and then fcking ignoring the incidents he should have controlled he lost control of the players around him.

Donnelly was excellent. McCann was a f**king terrible substitution, near cost us the match. Brennan was the man to take up Meyler's role, they're very similar, failing that McNulty could've been trusted with it. McCurry is a top forward, very reliable and consistent, McAliskey isn't as much but tries hard to be fair to him. Never seen Colm as a sweeper but f**k he can do it well enough. Bradley was very quiet after a busy 4 weeks. McNamee bar his moments of madness, managed McManus well. McNabb is a safe pair of hands too. McCrory is an enigma now, no longer a man-marker can he really play a box to box strategy? Morgan was excellent too and his awareness and quality of kickouts is a major factor in our success. Arguably a poorer stopper and weaker under the high ball than O'Neill but his quality with ball in hand or off the deck is priceless.

In the midst of all the hysteria, a well balanced analysis of the game! Well done sir!

Very good performance by Tyrone today. Mattie Donnelly exceptional again. Monaghan bottle job as per! As Gabriel said the seethe will be strong for the next few hours . . .

Embarrassing from McCann!

Mind games . . .

http://tyronetribulations.com/2015/08/06/malachy-orourkes-bin-not-collected-in-ballygawley-after-latest-wave-of-pre-match-intimidation/

In fairness Clogher have played twice since we last had a game.

Nah. No change in management. Hadn't heard that rumour.

Yeah right enough sorry they did have! It probably would have made sense to have played that preliminary round game back in May with the senior and intermediate? Management change was just that then - a rumour. You had a good run the 2nd half of last years league so maybe all not lost though a big blow to go out of the championship nonetheless.