The IRISH RUGBY thread

Started by Donnellys Hollow, October 27, 2009, 05:26:16 PM

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manfromdelmonte

Watch England go after sexton next weekend. They will make it ultra physical

JPGJOHNNYG

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 12, 2023, 08:21:02 PM
Watch England go after sexton next weekend. They will make it ultra physical

It couldn't get much more physical than today. It was brutal

trailer

A great win. The sort of performance World Cup winners put together

An Watcher

This weekends matches make an even bigger joke of the world cup groups.  The winner of the group containing Eng, Jap and Arg more than likely playing Wales for a place in the semi final.  Meanwhile, two of Ireland, SA, NZ and France getting eliminated and Scot potentially not even reaching the quarters.  Joke

thewobbler

Quote from: An Watcher on March 12, 2023, 10:54:55 PM
This weekends matches make an even bigger joke of the world cup groups.  The winner of the group containing Eng, Jap and Arg more than likely playing Wales for a place in the semi final.  Meanwhile, two of Ireland, SA, NZ and France getting eliminated and Scot potentially not even reaching the quarters.  Joke

There's flaws in the WC system no doubt. But here. Soccer has an almost egalitarian qualifying and seeding system for its WCs and it routinely throws up groups of death, and  produces both subjectively and clearly easier and tougher paths to the final.

Short of an entirely objective AI, fed with all the data on form, talent and injury reports intervening the week before a finals to split everyone fairly, no perfect system is possible. Such an AI doesn't exist. And even if it was possible, coaches and teams would then game that AI to the point that we would end up not much different to what's currently ordained.

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It's a bit like the early years of the All Ireland qualifiers. One year the media would leap on the back door as not providing stiff enough  competition for a team that follows that route to the last 4, to be suitably prepared for the level needed. The next year the same pundits would then tell you that teams coming out of the back door were better prepared for same challenge, by virtue of having played more games.

People see what they want to see. Championships though, they rarely produce an undeserved winner.


Bord na Mona man

Quote from: thewobbler on March 12, 2023, 11:33:53 PM
Quote from: An Watcher on March 12, 2023, 10:54:55 PM
This weekends matches make an even bigger joke of the world cup groups.  The winner of the group containing Eng, Jap and Arg more than likely playing Wales for a place in the semi final.  Meanwhile, two of Ireland, SA, NZ and France getting eliminated and Scot potentially not even reaching the quarters.  Joke

There's flaws in the WC system no doubt. But here. Soccer has an almost egalitarian qualifying and seeding system for its WCs and it routinely throws up groups of death, and  produces both subjectively and clearly easier and tougher paths to the final.

Short of an entirely objective AI, fed with all the data on form, talent and injury reports intervening the week before a finals to split everyone fairly, no perfect system is possible. Such an AI doesn't exist. And even if it was possible, coaches and teams would then game that AI to the point that we would end up not much different to what's currently ordained.
This will be the last World Cup where the groups are set so far in advance.
It is often the case that the 9th ranked team is as good as the 4th ranked team. The Groups of Death are bound to occur.

seafoid

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU


JPGJOHNNYG

It's the same every year when you watch France Wales. Whichever team you need to win that year to help Ireland they dont ffs

Milltown Row2

Ireland are 1/10 today... if they don't beat England that would be a calamity of huge proportions

They'll be nervous for first few minutes
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

JPGJOHNNYG

Calamity on the cards. Ireland struggling against the rush defense

seafoid

England have conceded 7 penalties.  Last one creates a try for Ireland.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Blowitupref

Harsh red for the English lad but a huge boost to Irelands chances of winning now.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Blowitupref on March 18, 2023, 05:49:52 PM
Harsh red for the English lad but a huge boost to Irelands chances of winning now.
Very harsh but ref explained the framework.

Helix.

Butchering a good few chances but should open up in the 2nd half. Hopefully Keenan is ok after the hit.