The IRISH RUGBY thread

[Tony Baloney]

If you're Irish it's a red if you're not it's a rugby incident and play on.

[seafoid]

To win a Grand Slam with that France team knocking around is a great achievement.

France were favourites at the  start of the tournament

[Wildweasel74]

Ireland got alot of lads coming down the line if injury doesn't curtail. 3 grand slams at U-20 level in the past 5yrs.

[gawa316]

When will the Prendergast fella be able to step up?

A couple of years of Byrne and then Prendergast?

[gallsman]

Red as per the modern super woke health and safety rules, but shouldn't have been a red.

Health and safety is "woke" ffs. Have you ever heard such f**king nonsense or idiocy.

[johnnycool]

Red as per the modern super woke health and safety rules, but shouldn't have been a red.

Health and safety is "woke" ffs. Have you ever heard such f**king nonsense or idiocy.

Wait till the claims pile up for the early onset of dementia and the payouts that follow, is that being super woke?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1635749284355211264

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/gordon-d-arcy-cj-stander-has-been-central-to-all-the-great-days-since-2016-1.4512263

In pro rugby eventually you need to pay the ferryman. The concussion stories, the early onset of dementia, being forced to go under the knife for corrective surgery on a mangled shoulder so you can carry your infant child, needing both hands to stand up from the dinner table, are just some of the issues that pursue rugby players into their forties and beyond.

[imtommygunn]

Red as per the modern super woke health and safety rules, but shouldn't have been a red.

Health and safety is "woke" ffs. Have you ever heard such f**king nonsense or idiocy.

Wait till the claims pile up for the early onset of dementia and the payouts that follow, is that being super woke?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1635749284355211264

You look at your man Steve Thompson who was a world cup winner in 2003 and what has happened with him. Horrific so people need protected.

[thewobbler]

Red as per the modern super woke health and safety rules, but shouldn't have been a red.

Health and safety is "woke" ffs. Have you ever heard such f**king nonsense or idiocy.

Wait till the claims pile up for the early onset of dementia and the payouts that follow, is that being super woke?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1635749284355211264

You look at your man Steve Thompson who was a world cup winner in 2003 and what has happened with him. Horrific so people need protected.

Addressing one of collisions as being the problem isn't going to solve anything by itself though.

It's the sheer volume of collisions with oversized humans, over a lengthy period of time, that really brings the house down.

Rugby needs to find ways to reduce the size of players (wider pitches, thorough to the point of zero tolerance drug testing), and to reduce the volume of games any player can be involved in.

Game will be gone for good within 2 generations if it doesn't.

[dec]

American football has a massive problem with long term brain damage. But I suspect as long as the money is there, players will be willing to take the risks.

https://www.bumc.bu.edu/busm/2023/02/06/researchers-find-cte-in-345-of-376-former-nfl-players-studied/
"The Boston University CTE Center announced today that they have now diagnosed 345 former NFL players with chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) out of 376 former players studied (91.7 percent).""For comparison, a 2018 Boston University study of 164 brains of men and women donated to the Framingham Heart Study found that only 1 of 164 (0.6 percent) had CTE. The lone CTE case was a former college football player. The extremely low population rate of CTE is in line with similar studies from brain banks in Austria, Australia and Brazil."

[seafoid]

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2016/02/11/the-collision-sport-on-trial/

"Iron Mike" Webster was a Hall of Fame center who played for the Pittsburgh Steelers, won four Super Bowl rings, and died in 2002 at age fifty. By then he was a broken man who lived in a pickup truck, estranged from his family, shocking himself with a Taser and attaching his teeth with superglue. It was his brain tissue that Dr. Bennet Omalu—the main character in Concussion—examined at the Allegheny County Coroner's Office in Pittsburgh, leading to the discovery of CTE.

Chris Borland was an inside linebacker who played one brilliant season for the San Francisco 49ers, then retired in March 2015 at age twenty-four after studying the potential long-term effects the game might have on his brain. "I want to be seventy-five and healthy if possible," he told Rebecca Carpenter in her documentary. One magazine labeled him "the most dangerous man in football."

No scene in the dramatization Concussion can match the agony of watching John Hilton, who played tight end in the NFL from 1964 to 1974, lose his train of thought, his eyes watering, a look of sheer desperation washing over him, as he tries to explain his mental condition; or the pain on the face of the wife of Mike Pyle, a center for the 1963 champion Chicago Bears, as she tells Carpenter, "One day you wake up and think, I don't have a husband anymore. He's sitting next to me, but..." The current estimates are that nearly 30 percent of all NFL players will suffer some form of dementia over the next sixty-five years. Most players, unlike Borland, will still say it is worth the risk. But David Hovda, the head of UCLA's Brain Injury Research Center, explained to Carpenter, "Brain injury does not happen to one person. It happens to an entire family."

[gallsman]

Red as per the modern super woke health and safety rules, but shouldn't have been a red.

Health and safety is "woke" ffs. Have you ever heard such f**king nonsense or idiocy.

Wait till the claims pile up for the early onset of dementia and the payouts that follow, is that being super woke?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1635749284355211264

You look at your man Steve Thompson who was a world cup winner in 2003 and what has happened with him. Horrific so people need protected.

Addressing one of collisions as being the problem isn't going to solve anything by itself though.

It's the sheer volume of collisions with oversized humans, over a lengthy period of time, that really brings the house down.

Rugby needs to find ways to reduce the size of players (wider pitches, thorough to the point of zero tolerance drug testing), and to reduce the volume of games any player can be involved in.

Game will be gone for good within 2 generations if it doesn't.

None of which has anything to do with "wokeness".

[Estimator]

Steward free to play again.

"Having reviewed all the evidence, the Committee decided that: (i) head contact with an opposing player had occurred; (ii) there had been an act of foul play in breach of Law 9.11 in that the Player had been reckless in his actions and in his upright positioning as he approached and came into highly dangerous contact with the other player; and (iii) there were sufficient mitigating factors including the late change in the dynamics and positioning of the opposing player which should have resulted in the issue of a yellow card rather than a red card."

[nrico2006]

So it wasn't a red after all.

[gallsman]

Find that ruling infuriating tbh. Rugby player picks up rugby ball is not something players can't anticipate, so completely disagree that Keenan's action mitigates things.

The cries from the English have been about how he was trying to get out of the tackle and out of Keenan's way. He turned his shoulder and jumped into him, hitting him square in the head with his elbow. How is there any evidence he was trying to get out of his way?!