The Super(ish) Leeds United Thread

[Rufus T Firefly]

It's very difficult to see Marsch surviving after today's result, which leaves Leeds in the bottom three after eight games without a win. He was a little unlucky in a couple of them, but the overall trends are dire and relegation looks odds on if the board does not intervene. While it is possible he was always out of his depth, the club's failure to bring in a striker and a left back in the transfer window effectively finished him off. There is plenty of time to turn the season around, but the next appointment will define Radrizzani's time as chairman.

Phil Hay was suggesting that there are now concerns in the Board. However they have given Marsch the dreaded vote of confidence. The next five games are very tough, and include Liverpool, City, Newcastle and Spurs. I could see us struggling to get three points from that run, which would leave us in a very tight position by the start of 2023 and would undoubtedly invite further discussion about his future.

I'd have to say that things do not look good and there seems to nearly be an acceptance that this will end badly for the Club unless something changes. That change would surely be at the expense of Marsch.

[johnnycool]

It's very difficult to see Marsch surviving after today's result, which leaves Leeds in the bottom three after eight games without a win. He was a little unlucky in a couple of them, but the overall trends are dire and relegation looks odds on if the board does not intervene. While it is possible he was always out of his depth, the club's failure to bring in a striker and a left back in the transfer window effectively finished him off. There is plenty of time to turn the season around, but the next appointment will define Radrizzani's time as chairman.

Phil Hay was suggesting that there are now concerns in the Board. However they have given Marsch the dreaded vote of confidence. The next five games are very tough, and include Liverpool, City, Newcastle and Spurs. I could see us struggling to get three points from that run, which would leave us in a very tight position by the start of 2023 and would undoubtedly invite further discussion about his future.

I'd have to say that things do not look good and there seems to nearly be an acceptance that this will end badly for the Club unless something changes. That change would surely be at the expense of Marsch.

He looked a beaten man in that last interview, not the usual over confident Marsh.

He might get to the international/world cup break but unless Liverpool keep up their generosity to teams at the bottom then he's gone.

[SLIGONIAN]

For a man so full of confidence, his body language in the last few games has been terrible. He looks lost, resigned, and defeated. Has he lived such a sheltered life that when adversity hits he loses all that sureness in himself. It just goes to show you how shallow it was.

Making 4 changes after Arsenal and 6 changes after Leicester shows panic in my mind.

He is not the biggest problem in Leeds however, if we don't find a scoring touch soon we are toast. Bamford missing big chances is far more to blame. He looks to have slowed dramatically since his last injury. It's very optimistic to think he will regain any sort of form.

We are in big trouble. It's a very bad sign of a team that plays up to better teams and down to lower teams. You see the pressure is on against lower teams and it's that inability to handle the pressure that shows itself in missing easy chances.

Against Fulham, on 30mins one from defense and one of their players was straight through on goal. Imagine leaving yourself that open with 30mins gone. Insane naive indisciplined positioning.

We probably need a new manager but more importantly, we need a striker. Some of the 4 options that passed us by in the transfer window aren't the right option. We just need a ruthless finisher.

[seafoid]

RTÉ

"This will be Virgil van Djik's first PL loss at Anfield as a Red, which says something about the Pool over these last four years."

Whatever about the manager or strikers, that Leeds team has balls.

[Mourne Rover]

Leeds will always drive us round the bend but yesterday was by any standards one of the good days. Marsch, in fairness to a manager under intense pressure, got everything right in terms of tactics, the starting XI and all his subs. While the first goal was a freak, we were due some luck and responded brilliantly to the Liverpool equaliser. The result might even have been wrapped up by half time if Aaronson (who was definitely pushed for what should have been a penalty) and Harrison had not missed great chances. Liverpool had plenty of shots but Meslier was in outstanding form. It was great to see Gnonto, aged 18, who starts for Italy but had not previously kicked a ball for Leeds, and Sommerville, aged 20, neither of them born when we last won at Anfield, combine for the winner. There are tough fixtures coming up, before and after the World Cup break, so we really need something from the Bournemouth game next Saturday, but the momentum is with us at the moment.

[Rufus T Firefly]

Leeds will always drive us round the bend but yesterday was by any standards one of the good days.

Correct. There are bad days - plenty of them - but there is always a hope that they are capable of a big performance to overturn the odds.

Whatever about the manager or strikers, that Leeds team has balls.

Yes, they stood up, that's for sure, and the manner in which the players celebrated with the manager at the end suggests absolute commitment and togetherness in support of Marsch. With such a positive attitude, there is always hope.

For all that it was such an excellent team performance, there are still weaknesses within the team and they do need addressed. Paddy again spurned a sitter - a miss that was borne from absolute lack of confidence. Cooper too give his all, but floundered on one occasion - a mistake reminiscent of a mistake made against Sheffield United in a pivotal Championship game back in 2019 - and was bailed out by Meslier.

Three points this weekend though, at home to Bournemouth, are still badly needed. 

[seafoid]

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/leeds-must-pay-rb-leipzig-184m-for-jean-kevin-augustin-after-losing-appeal-42118858.html

[ONeill]

Leeds can't be good for the heart.

[SaffronSports]

Great game today and brilliant to see the young lads shine. I'd get Cresswell back from his loan at Millwall and fire him in too.

[ONeill]

Leeds were horrific in the first half and the boos seemed end of management stuff. Hard to believe they turned it around.

[seafoid]

If Leeds can keep on winning against teams in the bottom half they should be grand. 15 points at this stage is pretty good.

[Mourne Rover]

It's becoming clear that Leeds are a side with some brilliant young talents who are fantastic going forward but cannot really defend properly. Until we are sorted out at the back, premiership survival will still be in some doubt. We need to find a left back who will allow Struijk to move back into the centre, and, while Adams has been developing well as a defensive midfielder, the overall structure has looked vulnerable all season. However, the players plainly believe in Marsch and their spirit is beyond question. Yesterday was another epic victory but it did come against one of the weakest teams in the division. There are some tough fixtures coming up on either side of the World Cup break, and, when we get them out of the way, a couple of boring one-nil wins would take us a long way.

[Rufus T Firefly]

Leeds can't be good for the heart.

Believe me, they're not and following them by constantly refreshing Phil Hay's Twitter feed is an excruciating way to spend two hours on a Saturday afternoon.

Leeds were horrific in the first half and the boos seemed end of management stuff. Hard to believe they turned it around.

Amazing turnaround, and a lot has to do with the sense of togetherness and commitment between the players and the management. However there currently is a very fine line between triumph and disaster and it remains an accident waiting to happen. The weaknesses exposed by Bournemouth are not going to go away.

On the basis that the Wolves away game in the League Cup will not hold much importance, we have Spurs away next weekend before the World Cup. Thereafter, it is City at home and Newcastle away at Christmas.

The World Cup therefore is probably coming at a good time for us, but come New Year's Day, the likelihood of storm clouds will be much greater, with the start of a transfer window that will be hugely important in terms of addressing flaws that have been there for some considerable time.

It's never boring.     

[seafoid]

The rhythm of 15 points from 13 , if continued to the end of the season,  would result in a final total of 43, comfortably away from relegation worries.

[Mourne Rover]

It may be a little hard for non-Leeds fans to understand how any side could go in front three times and still get nothing out of a game, but the bottom line is that our defence is not of premier league standard. The World Cup break gives us a chance to consider some options and the transfer window will be crucial. With the next two fixtures at home to Man City and away to Newcastle, we are likely to be going into 2023 uncomfortably close to the relegation positions.