Starting tomorrow defending champions Down against Fermanagh in Pairc Esler
Quarter finals April 1st
Monaghan v Cavan
Derry v Antrim
Donegal v Armagh
Tyrone v Down or Fermanagh
Game will be live on this link https://ulster.gaa.ie/tv/
Semi finals
Monaghan/Cavan v Derry/Antrim
Donegal/Armagh v Tyrone/Down/Fermanagh
Routine win for Down tonight 2-13 to 0-7.
Half time in the Quarter-Finals (Tyrone v Down is on Saturday)
Donegal 1-7 Armagh 0-1
Derry 0-5 Antrim 0-5
Monaghan 0-1 Cavan 1-5
Results
Donegal 1-13 Armagh 0-9
Derry 0-12 Antrim 0-9
Monaghan 0-3 Cavan 1-11
Christ Monaghan were poor. A free 13 yards out put wide. Cavan don't look that hot.
Donegal very impressive but Armagh stood of them in the first half and the damage was done at by half time. No 6 for Donegal looks v good. St
Eunans man
About 3 Downeys missing from the U-20 team, they all injured?
Great and unexpected win from Cavan and yes there was a lot of mistakes but conditions were slippery. Derby matches between these 2 always produce errors such is the fear of losing to the other. Monaghan were ulster minor champs 3 yrs ago and one of the favourites for the u20s this year.
To answer Wildweasel's query re the Downeys.Yes, all three Downeys are injured as are goalkeeper Jack Scullion,Ronan McFaul and Eoin McEvoy.James McGurk is suspended as a result of being sent off in last year's Ulster U20 championship.
With the possible exception of Calum Downey, the other six would be considered definite starters.So, it is going to be an uphill battle for Derry to progress.However, the improvement between the first half performance and the second half display last night shows that there is potential when the players get to know each other properly on the field of play.Hopefully, that potential will be developed further during the incoming week, despite the fact that there is a very short time to do so.
Both semi finals live on the TG4 YouTube channel tonight.
Quote from: Derry Optimist on April 02, 2022, 12:26:43 PM
To answer Wildweasel's query re the Downeys.Yes, all three Downeys are injured as are goalkeeper Jack Scullion,Ronan McFaul and Eoin McEvoy.James McGurk is suspended as a result of being sent off in last year's Ulster U20 championship.
With the possible exception of Calum Downey, the other six would be considered definite starters.So, it is going to be an uphill battle for Derry to progress.However, the improvement between the first half performance and the second half display last night shows that there is potential when the players get to know each other properly on the field of play.Hopefully, that potential will be developed further during the incoming week, despite the fact that there is a very short time to do so.
If Calum is fit, he walks onto that team.
Enda Downey possibly back tonight, McEvoy also has a chance, James McGurk back from suspension. Any of the others in with a chance?
That young Lavey contingent all have had a bad run of injuries. Them 3 Downey's are riddled with injuries, as was Shea Doweny before them.
Fancied a Tyrone Derry final in this prior to the Leo Murphy
Hard to look past Donegal & Cavan on the evidence we've seen to date.
By my count, 11 of the Derry team have All Ireland Minor medals. The handicap of -2 seems very low.
Half time in both semi finals
Tyrone 0-8 Donegal 0-4
Derry 0-5 Cavan 0-5
Results
Donegal 2-10 Tyrone 1-13 (extra time to be played)
Cavan 0-11 Derry 0-9
Very good 2nd half in Donegal v Tyrone on tg4 youtube
As an aside are there ever any Donegal managers at any age grade who come in and play a long ball game? Are they all tied to the same hand passing / running game by a county board diktat?
Mighty entertainment the second half between Donegal & Tyrone, pure off the cuff stuff. Loads of mistakes, but great scores too, some dreadful defending, some high catches, restore your faith in the game, instead of the usual robotic control we get from Ulster football.
Quote from: bennydorano on April 08, 2022, 09:25:22 PM
Very good 2nd half in Donegal v Tyrone on tg4 youtube
As an aside are there ever any Donegal managers at any age grade who come in and play a long ball game? Are they all tied to the same hand passing / running game by a county board diktat?
No, I played some club football in Donegal & always tried to hit 30 to 50 m kicks into space, got bollicked out of it, even when I got my man. Some reckon the short passing game is due to wet windy conditions that usually prevail in coastal areas of Donegal.
This game is a great spectacle btw.
Half time in extra time Donegal 2-14 Tyrone 2-15.
Result Donegal 2-16 Tyrone 3-16.
Better team won in extra time
Tyrone were probably the better and worse team. They should have been more clinical and made a good few silly mistakes. Some boys who look they could be players.
Quote from: HokeyPokey on April 08, 2022, 10:05:27 PM
Tyrone were probably the better and worse team. They should have been more clinical and made a good few silly mistakes. Some boys who look they could be players.
Long time lads.....only the 12 years. Hope everyone is well?
Bang on Hokey, some great potential there coupled with some naivety.
Very good use of the mark as well ..
Great entertainment. Thought Tyrone were a fair bit the better team for majority of the normal time but then conceded a couple of soft goals, second in particular daft, which really lifted Donegal. Donegal went into the extra time with the momentum and were looking good until Tyrone found the net and it shifted again. Fair play to both sides for serving up an excellent contest.
Ref lost control a bit at the end, near enough 6 minutes injury time in a 10 minute half :o.
Derry and Donegal was favourites coming into tonights games the unpredictable nature of underage football strikes again.
Tyrone was the better side in normal time yet could have let the win slip through their fingers. The other game a lot more defensive, that style of play brought Cavan success at U21 level so can't blame them for playing to their strengths. Maybe a year too soon for Derry with their 2020 All-Ireland winning minor team still underage next year.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 08, 2022, 10:15:55 PM
Derry and Donegal was favourites coming into tonights games the unpredictable nature of underage football strikes again.
Tyrone was the better side in normal time yet could have let the win slip through their fingers. The other game a lot more defensive, that style of play brought Cavan success at U21 level so can't blame them for playing to their strengths. Maybe a year too soon for Derry with their 2020 All-Ireland winning minor team still underage next year.
Cavan weren't defensive. Derry brought bodies back to negate the threat of Lovett and so played through the hands.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 08, 2022, 10:15:55 PM
Derry and Donegal was favourites coming into tonights games the unpredictable nature of underage football strikes again.
Tyrone was the better side in normal time yet could have let the win slip through their fingers. The other game a lot more defensive, that style of play brought Cavan success at U21 level so can't blame them for playing to their strengths. Maybe a year too soon for Derry with their 2020 All-Ireland winning minor team still underage next year.
Dunno why anybody would have Donegal favourites ahead of Tyrone given the sides history in the minor championship in 2019.
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 08, 2022, 10:47:09 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 08, 2022, 10:15:55 PM
Derry and Donegal was favourites coming into tonights games the unpredictable nature of underage football strikes again.
Tyrone was the better side in normal time yet could have let the win slip through their fingers. The other game a lot more defensive, that style of play brought Cavan success at U21 level so can't blame them for playing to their strengths. Maybe a year too soon for Derry with their 2020 All-Ireland winning minor team still underage next year.
Dunno why anybody would have Donegal favourites ahead of Tyrone given the sides history in the minor championship in 2019.
Might had something to do with the Leo Murphy cup final result 4 weeks ago (Donegal 2-10 Tyrone 1-06) looks like Tyrone learnt the most from that defeat.
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 08, 2022, 10:03:21 PM
Ref added almost 6 minutes on to the 10 minutes. Ffs!
It happens ;)
How you work out Derry were favourites missing half a forward line. Thought the defensive football was hard to watch for this age group in the Derry v Cavan game.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2022, 11:08:21 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 08, 2022, 10:03:21 PM
Ref added almost 6 minutes on to the 10 minutes. Ffs!
It happens ;)
Far too often I think as strangely 21 and a half minutes of extra time which would be the equivalent doesn't happen very often at the end of a normal match.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 09, 2022, 01:50:42 AM
How you work out Derry were favourites missing half a forward line. Thought the defensive football was hard to watch for this age group in the Derry v Cavan game.
Cavan are without their two best players at this level, McEvoy and McGovern. Probably missing 2 more starters through short term injury. Haven't won a game in the minor championship in the last 3 years. Playing a Derry side who started with 11 lads with All Ireland Minor medals. Cavan were 15/8 with PP. How would Derry not have been favourites?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on April 09, 2022, 01:50:42 AM
How you work out Derry were favourites missing half a forward line. Thought the defensive football was hard to watch for this age group in the Derry v Cavan game.
Agreed. Both teams more worried about getting bodies back, and not losing possession when they were going forward. At one stage the Cavan corner back hit a beautiful 30 yard top of the boot pass straight across the field to the other side - The problem for me is he was only 25 yards from goal, why didn't he fecking shoot!
Derry all talk but no trousers as usual! ;D
All quiet on here with the big game tomorrow. Brewster has been a happy hunting ground for Cavan U21s in the past and what this team lacks in skill it makes up in heart and fight. Could be a very interesting match tomorrow.
Tyrone have serious firepower about them. Very hard to see Cavan getting on top of enough of Tyrones forwards to win the game.
Cavan will make it a dog fight and try to make it hard for tyrone but they should have too much. However, its a final and Cavan aren't there by chance
Game live on TG4
Should be called the Ulster bowl cut final.
6-5 Cavan at HT, they should defo be further ahead. Played the best football.
The Donegal ref would remind you of Collina, but he is picky on the rules
Quote from: Aaron Boone on April 22, 2022, 08:36:43 PM
6-5 Cavan at HT, they should defo be further ahead. Played the best football.
The Donegal ref would remind you of Collina, but he is picky on the rules
Picky one way. Couple times hands high on Cavan player and never gave a free. Definitely should be more ahead. Dominated kickouts and Tyrone have kicked a lot of aimless ball in.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on April 22, 2022, 08:36:43 PM
6-5 Cavan at HT, they should defo be further ahead. Played the best football.
The Donegal ref would remind you of Collina, but he is picky on the rules
Picky on rules for one team. Turned down at least 3 stonewall scorable frees for cavan
Quote from: Aaron Boone on April 22, 2022, 08:36:43 PM
6-5 Cavan at HT, they should defo be further ahead. Played the best football.
The Donegal ref would remind you of Collina, but he is picky on the rules
Tyrone fortunate to be only a point down at half time given how much more of the ball Cavan have had.
Has the feel of a game where Cavan will end up regretting their missed scoring chances in the first half.
Holy f**k, a yellowcard for that ::)
An absolute embarrassing display of refereeing here
Very poor refereeing with decisions mostly favoring Tyrone.
Some fine football being played by our Cavan brethren.
Even as a Tyrone supporter I have to say the referee is being very sore on Cavan.
Quote from: square_ball on April 22, 2022, 09:05:45 PM
Even as a Tyrone supporter I have to say the referee is being very sore on Cavan.
Indeed he seems very poor. Very fussy blowing frees for every tackle by both sides. Not allowing any contact.
Jesus wept, how did he not yellow card that cynical drag back on the Cavan player considering his other decisions
V soft frees for sure and all the worse with a free taker like canavan
Hate seeing young guys miss those chances late on as it can sit with them. Good tight game there that could have went either way.
Nothing between those sides a missed free away from extra time. Hard luck Cavan and congrats to Tyrone.
It was better from Tyrone in the 2nd half but they were beatable out there and Cavan will rue those late free kicks and choices taken.
Tyrone man said to me at game the ref was a disgrace against Cavan.
Quote from: Main Street on April 22, 2022, 09:25:02 PM
It was better from Tyrone in the 2nd half but they were beatable out there and Cavan will rue those late free kicks and choices taken.
Would agree with that, Tyrone just about deserved the win. In the second half they were on top and converted frees well. Cavan never got going second half.
Watched it here, thought ref was very hard on Cavan.
In a close match with nothing between the sides, the referee won that game for Tyrone tonight. That said Cavan will be left rueing those late missed chances.
Quote from: full moon on April 22, 2022, 09:36:44 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 22, 2022, 09:25:02 PM
It was better from Tyrone in the 2nd half but they were beatable out there and Cavan will rue those late free kicks and choices taken.
Would agree with that, Tyrone just about deserved the win. In the second half they were on top and converted frees well. Cavan never got going second half.
Tyrone looked a bit complacent in the first half. Cavan were more hungry. They stepped it up around the middle in the second half and could have scored a couple of goals. But a good battling performance from Cavan
Darragh Lovett showed really well again in the full forward line, didn't get enough ball in the second half. Canavan kicked some great scores.
Would feel very harshly done by if I was a Cavan man tonight, some of those frees were very dubious, to say the least. Agree with Rodney, we were very complacent and looked like a team that had to just turn up to win. Cavan much hungrier and up for it in 1st half. We definitely improved in second half and almost threw it away going after goals instead of taking the point.
Will take a hugely improved performance in 2 weeks if there is any chance to reach the final. Well done to Cavan and youd have to feel sorry for no 11 after that last free. Surprised no 24 didn't take it as his confidence would have been high after his 2 previous scores.
One of those games that Cavan would have won with a different referee, there was nothing between the sides. However, we could also have won it if we hadn't ran straight down the centre for most of the second half and let ourselves get swallowed up by Tyrone. We waited until Tyrone went 3 ahead to do the sensible thing and be patient. Proud of the effort from Cavan tonight though.
Great ref.
For balance, Cavan got much the better of the ref in the last two games.
This was just pure class...
https://twitter.com/teamtalkmagLIVE/status/1517621647599149057?t=Xon2QAR2MCrWOrdqavh3Vg&s=19
Daire Madden kicked 2 good scores when he came on. Himself and Lovett were Minor last year, so another 2 years at this level.
A shame Caoimhin McGovern and Sean McEvoy weren't available for Cavan this year.
Congrats to Tyrone but a real bitter taste after that result. Don't mind losing but that referee should never be allowed disgrace himself in a big match again. 4 pts from play for Tyrone, 7 from Cavan. I'd say free count was 3 times higher for Tyrone today. As for Cavan, I'm delighted with the effort and work rate, not everything came off but they were the better team overall for me. Cruel of Fionntain at the end but that's football.
Wouldn't agree with Itchy on most things but I thought the Ref very hard on Cavan who seemed to need to be 110% fouled to get a free while Tyrone got frees awful easy.
Mind you I only saw the second half.
Quote from: Rossfan on April 22, 2022, 11:54:28 PM
Wouldn't agree with Itchy on most things but I thought the Ref very hard on Cavan who seemed to need to be 110% fouled to get a free while Tyrone got frees awful easy.
Mind you I only saw the second half.
I just saw 2nd half as well.
I thought Tyrone were the better team in the second half but the referee gave Cavan little in terms of frees. Tyrone got their frees a lot handier.
In saying that Cavan had a decent chance to draw it at the end with a free but didn't make it. In situation like that, you'd expect the keeper to come up and hit it off the ground!
Quote from: Rossfan on April 22, 2022, 11:54:28 PM
Wouldn't agree with Itchy on most things but I thought the Ref very hard on Cavan who seemed to need to be 110% fouled to get a free while Tyrone got frees awful easy.
Mind you I only saw the second half.
First half was same, Tyrone had 5 pts, 4 frees and soft as f**k frees at that compared to the all out assaults going on unpunished at the other side
Anyone know who the referee was?
Quote from: Westside on April 23, 2022, 12:04:57 AM
Anyone know who the referee was?
His name is Enda McFeely from Donegal but he must be riding a young one from Tyrone
Not too often these days that we aren't the bitter complainers about some referee or other's performance, and we'll take it (sorry Cavan lads)! ;)
Tyrone big push now to win the AI at this grade. Be brave to win the bigger prize.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on April 23, 2022, 12:18:46 AM
Not too often these days that we aren't the bitter complainers about some referee or other's performance, and we'll take it (sorry Cavan lads)! ;)
Tyronies mostly only complain without merit when they lose, at least Cavan's complaints had genuine merit. Maybe the day will come when you'll take a close defeat on the chin, but I don't think I have those years left in my life to read the words 'yeah we got beaten on the day by the better side'.
What has dole fraud to do with refereing of game.Cavan poor tackling to blame.
Quote from: skeog on April 23, 2022, 08:48:20 AM
What has dole fraud to do with refereing of game.Cavan poor tackling to blame.
Dunno. How far is Castlefinn Co Donegal from Co Tyrone.
Quote from: skeog on April 23, 2022, 08:48:20 AM
What has dole fraud to do with refereing of game.Cavan poor tackling to blame.
If Tyrone fans are saying frees were soft then it's nothing to do with tackling. A couple of occasions Cavan players were caught head height for tap over frees and nothing given. It was an awful performance from the referee. The overcarrying decision against a player after literally just receiving the ball is hands down the worst decision I've ever seen.
Quote from: Main Street on April 23, 2022, 02:09:28 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on April 23, 2022, 12:18:46 AM
Not too often these days that we aren't the bitter complainers about some referee or other's performance, and we'll take it (sorry Cavan lads)! ;)
Tyronies mostly only complain without merit when they lose, at least Cavan's complaints had genuine merit. Maybe the day will come when you'll take a close defeat on the chin, but I don't think I have those years left in my life to read the words 'yeah we got beaten on the day by the better side'.
Give us a few examples of when Tyrone complain without merit?
Castlefin is just 5 minutes from Tyrone but they would have no love for Tyrone around there.
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 23, 2022, 09:28:50 AM
Quote from: Main Street on April 23, 2022, 02:09:28 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on April 23, 2022, 12:18:46 AM
Not too often these days that we aren't the bitter complainers about some referee or other's performance, and we'll take it (sorry Cavan lads)! ;)
Tyronies mostly only complain without merit when they lose, at least Cavan's complaints had genuine merit. Maybe the day will come when you'll take a close defeat on the chin, but I don't think I have those years left in my life to read the words 'yeah we got beaten on the day by the better side'.
Give us a few examples of when Tyrone complain without merit?
Castlefin is just 5 minutes from Tyrone but they would have no love for Tyrone around there.
NFL final 92
All Ireland final 95.
All Ireland semi v Meath in 96
Omagh in 06 championship
Come back to me if you need any more.
Quote from: Silver hill on April 24, 2022, 10:13:07 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 23, 2022, 09:28:50 AM
Quote from: Main Street on April 23, 2022, 02:09:28 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on April 23, 2022, 12:18:46 AM
Not too often these days that we aren't the bitter complainers about some referee or other's performance, and we'll take it (sorry Cavan lads)! ;)
Tyronies mostly only complain without merit when they lose, at least Cavan's complaints had genuine merit. Maybe the day will come when you'll take a close defeat on the chin, but I don't think I have those years left in my life to read the words 'yeah we got beaten on the day by the better side'.
Give us a few examples of when Tyrone complain without merit?
Castlefin is just 5 minutes from Tyrone but they would have no love for Tyrone around there.
NFL final 92
All Ireland final 95.
All Ireland semi v Meath in 96
Omagh in 06 championship
Come back to me if you need any more.
Complain without merit?
95 Final - a legitimate point was disallowed to draw the game and a red carded player remained in the pitch therefore plenty of merit in any complaints.
Meath 96 - constant illegal/dirty tackles throughout that game therefore again plenty of merit in any complaints.
Omagh 06 - not many complaints from Tyrone fans about anything really, only problem then was the fact that Tyrone were so depleted which was the main reason for the loss.
So you haven't really came up with anything that backs up your implication.
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 24, 2022, 10:30:35 AM
Quote from: Silver hill on April 24, 2022, 10:13:07 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on April 23, 2022, 09:28:50 AM
Quote from: Main Street on April 23, 2022, 02:09:28 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on April 23, 2022, 12:18:46 AM
Not too often these days that we aren't the bitter complainers about some referee or other's performance, and we'll take it (sorry Cavan lads)! ;)
Tyronies mostly only complain without merit when they lose, at least Cavan's complaints had genuine merit. Maybe the day will come when you'll take a close defeat on the chin, but I don't think I have those years left in my life to read the words 'yeah we got beaten on the day by the better side'.
Give us a few examples of when Tyrone complain without merit?
Castlefin is just 5 minutes from Tyrone but they would have no love for Tyrone around there.
NFL final 92
All Ireland final 95.
All Ireland semi v Meath in 96
Omagh in 06 championship
Come back to me if you need any more.
Complain without merit?
Meath 96 - constant illegal/dirty tackles throughout that game therefore again plenty of merit in any complaints.
Omagh 06 - not many complaints from Tyrone fans about anything really, only problem then was the fact that Tyrone were so depleted which was the main reason for the loss.
So you haven't really came up with anything that backs up your implication.
:D :D ;D ;D ;D .....always the victim