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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: Today at 04:37:09 PM »
You've a one track mind when it comes to Mourinho Seanie, not everything is his fault.


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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: Today at 10:43:45 AM »
'Individually too many players are crap'. Utd in a nutshell.

Not too far from the truth!!

Meant to add Lukaku to that list of Matic & Sanchez. I thought all 3 were great signings at the time.

United have needed a major clearout since Mourinho arrived and its never happened, might happen this summer as Mata, Herrera, Smalling, Jones, Darmian, Young & Valencia are all out of contract.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: Today at 09:37:57 AM »
Didn't expect a lot from yesterday and didn't get it. Pogba frustrates the hell out of me but if if he's ever needed for one game its against City where his ability on the ball is desperately needed. United tactcailly got a lot right for the majoirty of the game but individiaully too many players were crap. City had a lot of possession but De Gea did't have too much to do. All 3 goals were poor to concede but Agueor is the only player you'd want in that situation as he's best player in the world from that positon given the way he strikes the ball. Shaw fell asleep for the first goal but there was still enough players in the United box to react and they didn't. The 3rd goal is the worst of the lot, Matic just fell asleep just 2 seconds after Lindelof reminding him. Young too is making far too many mistakes.

Every single time City broke in the first half it was because of Herrera giving the ball away; The pair of them seen a fair bit of the ball and although there not exactly the most technically gifted players around they should be good enough to show some composure and work the ball out.

Gary Neville spoke a lot of sense after the game with regards to the players, I do think United should have more points though as we under performed at the beginning of the season but in the last 5 weeks I've seen enough to be hopeful going forward. Matic & Sanchez have been 2 of the best players in their positions in the league since they arrived but both have turned up and been major let downs.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: November 09, 2018, 12:12:53 PM »
Replacing Smalling is the first priority, his lack of ability on the ball causes United so many problems. He's incapable of heading the ball to a team mate either, the amount of times he gives the ball away is unforgivable; I think Lindelof gave the ball away once needlessly the other night and that was because Smalling passed him the ball when he shouldn't off.

Lukaku was good last season and there were signs his work rate had improved as the season went on but this year he's been shocking as has his work rate. He looks overweight too, just hope he's not brought back into the starting 11 when fit. Just heard on the radio now he's back in training.

I don't think centre forward is a prority though with Rashford & Sanchez capable of playing up front alone. A centre half and right winger are we're short and we still lack a centre mid who's a superb passer of the ball. Angel Gomes is 18 now although he's still very small, would like to think he'll be in the first team squad next season.


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General discussion / Re: man city new invincibles
« on: November 09, 2018, 09:37:00 AM »
Its mental stuff if true, little or no coverage thus far but I see journos on Twitter starting to call it out now..

Here's today revelations, I'm sure link to previous articles is in it.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/manchester-city-exposed-chapter-3-recruiting-pep-guardiola-a-1236621.html

Heres the original overview.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/football-leaks-manchester-city-paris-saint-germain-gianni-infantino-a-1236277.html

I know a bit about football revenues and it was obvious what City were up to but didn't know to that extent. They've not just broken the rules they've absolutely taken the piss out of it. The likelihood is that of City's turnover of 500m that at least 120m is complete fabrication. They wouldn't have won any of those league titles without doing so.

The Glazers don't care as its not really affecting them too much but can see why the likes of Real, Barca & Bayern want something done about it.
Are your concerns, and the concerns of Real, Barca and Bayern for ethical reasons, or purely because City can now challenge you all for honours? I don't remember too many concerns from United fans or fans of other big clubs of the financial advantages they had and still have over their fellow competitors? And lets be honest that advantage is significantly greater than any advantage City now exert over their immediate rivals. Financial doping ruined the competiveness of professional football a long time before City came on the scene, so don't expect the average fan to shed tears for United and other big clubs that don't like what City are doing.

FFP is also their to protect those clubs who've seen owners come in and completely mismanage the club and its ended in financial disaster like Portsmouth and various other clubs.

Irrespective of the rights and wrongs of FFP and the financial doping thats gone on before it doesn't make what City have done right, they've allegedly broken the rules and continue to do so should face the consequences.

I think you need to differentiate the likes of what happened at Portsmouth, Leeds Rangers, etc, etc where "owners" leveraged the club into huge debts based on fanciful notions of the return of European football and whatever would cover the mess from what is happening at City and PSG where the investors are pumping their own hard cash in.

If anything FFP should be set up to prevent what the Glazers did at United from happening again where they didn't spend one brass farthing of their own to secure the club and mortgaged the stadium and using Unites vast income streams to service it. If those streams dry up which in fairness is unlikely then United would be couped.

Agree on all of the above but as unlikely as it may seem what happens to City & PSG if the owners decide they've had enough? Both club rely heavily on their alleged inflated commercial deals to break even.

Then they'd have to cut their cloth to suit like anyone else. Their new found global market would soften the blow but indeed changes would be made i.e. reducing the payroll and so forth. They'd still more than likely be solvent though.

That would soon disappear.

There would be a very strong chance they'd be relegated within 2 years with the financial upheaval.


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General discussion / Re: man city new invincibles
« on: November 08, 2018, 04:19:48 PM »
Its mental stuff if true, little or no coverage thus far but I see journos on Twitter starting to call it out now..

Here's today revelations, I'm sure link to previous articles is in it.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/manchester-city-exposed-chapter-3-recruiting-pep-guardiola-a-1236621.html

Heres the original overview.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/football-leaks-manchester-city-paris-saint-germain-gianni-infantino-a-1236277.html

I know a bit about football revenues and it was obvious what City were up to but didn't know to that extent. They've not just broken the rules they've absolutely taken the piss out of it. The likelihood is that of City's turnover of 500m that at least 120m is complete fabrication. They wouldn't have won any of those league titles without doing so.

The Glazers don't care as its not really affecting them too much but can see why the likes of Real, Barca & Bayern want something done about it.
Are your concerns, and the concerns of Real, Barca and Bayern for ethical reasons, or purely because City can now challenge you all for honours? I don't remember too many concerns from United fans or fans of other big clubs of the financial advantages they had and still have over their fellow competitors? And lets be honest that advantage is significantly greater than any advantage City now exert over their immediate rivals. Financial doping ruined the competiveness of professional football a long time before City came on the scene, so don't expect the average fan to shed tears for United and other big clubs that don't like what City are doing.

FFP is also their to protect those clubs who've seen owners come in and completely mismanage the club and its ended in financial disaster like Portsmouth and various other clubs.

Irrespective of the rights and wrongs of FFP and the financial doping thats gone on before it doesn't make what City have done right, they've allegedly broken the rules and continue to do so should face the consequences.

I think you need to differentiate the likes of what happened at Portsmouth, Leeds Rangers, etc, etc where "owners" leveraged the club into huge debts based on fanciful notions of the return of European football and whatever would cover the mess from what is happening at City and PSG where the investors are pumping their own hard cash in.

If anything FFP should be set up to prevent what the Glazers did at United from happening again where they didn't spend one brass farthing of their own to secure the club and mortgaged the stadium and using Unites vast income streams to service it. If those streams dry up which in fairness is unlikely then United would be couped.

Agree on all of the above but as unlikely as it may seem what happens to City & PSG if the owners decide they've had enough? Both club rely heavily on their alleged inflated commercial deals to break even.


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General discussion / Re: man city new invincibles
« on: November 08, 2018, 01:20:54 PM »
Its mental stuff if true, little or no coverage thus far but I see journos on Twitter starting to call it out now..

Here's today revelations, I'm sure link to previous articles is in it.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/manchester-city-exposed-chapter-3-recruiting-pep-guardiola-a-1236621.html

Heres the original overview.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/football-leaks-manchester-city-paris-saint-germain-gianni-infantino-a-1236277.html

I know a bit about football revenues and it was obvious what City were up to but didn't know to that extent. They've not just broken the rules they've absolutely taken the piss out of it. The likelihood is that of City's turnover of 500m that at least 120m is complete fabrication. They wouldn't have won any of those league titles without doing so.

The Glazers don't care as its not really affecting them too much but can see why the likes of Real, Barca & Bayern want something done about it.
Are your concerns, and the concerns of Real, Barca and Bayern for ethical reasons, or purely because City can now challenge you all for honours? I don't remember too many concerns from United fans or fans of other big clubs of the financial advantages they had and still have over their fellow competitors? And lets be honest that advantage is significantly greater than any advantage City now exert over their immediate rivals. Financial doping ruined the competiveness of professional football a long time before City came on the scene, so don't expect the average fan to shed tears for United and other big clubs that don't like what City are doing.

FFP is also their to protect those clubs who've seen owners come in and completely mismanage the club and its ended in financial disaster like Portsmouth and various other clubs.

Irrespective of the rights and wrongs of FFP and the financial doping thats gone on before it doesn't make what City have done right, they've allegedly broken the rules and continue to do so should face the consequences.




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General discussion / Re: man city new invincibles
« on: November 08, 2018, 09:52:40 AM »
Its mental stuff if true, little or no coverage thus far but I see journos on Twitter starting to call it out now..

Here's today revelations, I'm sure link to previous articles is in it.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/manchester-city-exposed-chapter-3-recruiting-pep-guardiola-a-1236621.html

Heres the original overview.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/football-leaks-manchester-city-paris-saint-germain-gianni-infantino-a-1236277.html

I know a bit about football revenues and it was obvious what City were up to but didn't know to that extent. They've not just broken the rules they've absolutely taken the piss out of it. The likelihood is that of City's turnover of 500m that at least 120m is complete fabrication. They wouldn't have won any of those league titles without doing so.

The Glazers don't care as its not really affecting them too much but can see why the likes of Real, Barca & Bayern want something done about it.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: November 08, 2018, 09:44:38 AM »
I know Juventus should have been farther ahead before Mata scored but United weren't bad last night. There was a method and a purpose to their play and they tried to be constructive when they had the ball. A lot of it came through Martial who is showing what I've always known he was capable of....he's really driving the team on now. Sanchez worked his tail off but he's a yard off where he used to be. Still, his movement alone is an improvement though it's now patently obvious Rashford needs a run at 9. I underestimated just how much Lukaku was holding this team back. He needs to be sold in January in case Jose gets tempted to revert to him. Pogba was a bit sleepy and silly in the first half but had some nice moments in the second half at times....frustrating player but I believe he is part of the solution. Smalling and Lindelof did well at the back and Shaw and Young got through a power of work. If I'm being picky Shaw and a couple of others were a little slow at closing down shooting opportunities (albeit from very long distance) at times which nearly cost United.

I've always maintained the players are good enough to be at least competitive at all levels. All it takes is for Mourinho to rein in his ego, actually coach the players he has and let them play. Trust them. That goes against his nature and the history of his entire career so I'm not hopeful.....and of course he couldn't just enjoy the win without kidnapping the headlines. I have to for once say that tactically United looked set up properly, the right personnel on the pitch (pretty much) and the right substitutions. The players attitude in the last month especially has been excellent too.

Juve are a brilliantly well drilled team, their the most organised team defensively in Europe. Its nearly impossible to catch them on the break, their so quick at getting players back and closing the opposition team down so for United to come back and win that game in the final few minutes is a sensational result.

Pogba is the only disappointment, he was woeful and brainless for much of the game; Don't know whether the occasion got to him but that performance wasn't good enough. Martial especially in the last 15 minutes was outstanding, thought his work rate was spot on and finally seeing the best of him.

Mourinho has shown last night and against Chelsea he's still has it tactically and capable of making the correct subs that can turn games. Agree on Rashford he needs to start, his extra pace will help this team but would like to see Sanchez play on the right. Lukaku is a worry, he's miles of where he was last season.

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General discussion / Re: man city new invincibles
« on: November 07, 2018, 12:40:58 PM »
City in the news the last week.

Who'd have thought City were up to no good when their commercial revenues are over 100m more than Liverpool's and Chelsea's and so many of their sponsors are from the same part of the world as the owners.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht Club Championships 2018
« on: November 07, 2018, 12:22:06 PM »
Connacht is wide open but only Corofin have a chance of going any further. 

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General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: November 06, 2018, 09:44:11 AM »
I've just been listening to LBC where they talked about Matic, didn't even mention McClean.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Kildare GAA to move house..
« on: November 06, 2018, 09:18:39 AM »
Daniel Flynn not committed to Kildare for next season yet and according to Colm Keys there are others too; After the progress they made this year I'm surprised at that.

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GAA Discussion / Re: PuC and the Liam Miller Fundraiser
« on: November 05, 2018, 02:16:21 PM »
You're all believing those wages on the basis of an article in one newspaper.


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GAA Discussion / Re: PuC and the Liam Miller Fundraiser
« on: November 05, 2018, 01:54:49 PM »
Put up a link then . He arrived on a free transfer and United doubled the wages Celtic were offering, which was 12 k a week. He wasn't on 12k a week at Celtic. Celtic aren't big wage spenders.  Especially not that type of money in 2004 ,to a 22 year old.

Do you realise Celtic's wage bill was more in 2004 then it was in 2016?

Celtic were well able to compete financially back then with the vast majority of premier league clubs.


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