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We couldn't make down Tyrone's excellent defensive setup. Once they broke, the had oceans of space which they exploited.

Back at it tomorrow night with the U20s. Interested to see who might be able to step into the panel come the group stages.

Forbes played last year vs. Mayo if memory serves me correctly. Campbell the goalie surely be in with a shout too.

Anyone know if the u20 game is being streamed anywhere?

It's not.

I've watched last two games on the dodgy box.

Was at a game today fella scuffed a free with the wind but it bounced over the bar without a touch. 2pts or I heard ones complaining g that a bounce is 1?

2

Unless touched by another person's is worth 1

One thing which should be put forward is that hurlers should not have their helmet on in the pre game parade

On Roger's tackle after the Donegal fella took the mark.

He clearly got the ball. Is this still not allowed?

The ref decided the tackle was within 4m of the mark. Can't tackle within 4m.
Whether it was within 4m or not may be a different question, but that's what the ref decided.

Yeah I understand  the 4m thing; but if a player bounces or solos, can he still not be disposed ?

On Roger's tackle after the Donegal fella took the mark.

He clearly got the ball. Is this still not allowed?

A few of those goals came from luck of the bounce. However at the same time, Armagh cut through us with ease.


For years we were so comfortable with 13 men back, we can't do that anymore and are being found out.

Martin Brehony hit the nail on the head....

Downgrading leagues is damaging GAA business


The mere possibility that counties want to avoid deciders harms credibility
Liverpool play Newcastle in the English League Cup final on Sunday. Status-wise, the competition is third of three in England's domestic pecking order and fourth of four for the clubs qualified for Europe.

Not a whole lot to get excited about then, a low-key event which doesn't matter very much to either club or the general public. Actually, not true.
Sky Sports and indeed the rest of the English media will hype it all week, Wembley will be packed and the winners will behave as winners should - openly enjoying the occasion without self-consciously trying to conceal their delight in case rivals sneer at them for celebrating success in a lower-ranked event.
If Newcastle win, it will be their first big silverware day since lifting the FA Cup in 1955 and will be followed by a Geordie carnival, overflowing with lots of 'grown men crying' sentimentality.
Contrast that with the Allianz Leagues, specifically the approach of Division 1 teams in both codes to even reaching the final, let alone winning it.
There's a distinct impression that several counties, especially in football, prefer to finish between third and sixth, thereby missing the final, avoiding relegation and free to begin the championship build-up.
It's not quite as marked in hurling, but you still feel that none of them would care very much if they don't make the final. Tipperary manager Liam Cahill appeared to suggest otherwise after the win over Kilkenny on Sunday, saying they would be delighted to win the title.
However, he also mentioned how the first round of the Munster SHC (two weeks after the league final) was very much in their thinking even now.
That he was asked about Tipp's attitude towards the league is interesting. Still, it was a perfectly valid question.
However, it's never one that arises in other sports, where every competition is treated as important. They are not all equal, of course, but the participants never downgrade any of them by implying that they have eyes only for the super prizes.
It's different in GAA, certainly in football, where avoiding the Division 1 final isn't only deemed smart, but necessary in some cases.
Take Donegal as an example. There has been much public musing, some of it fuelled by comments from Jim McGuinness, as to whether they want to be in the final on March 30.
With an Ulster first-round tie against Derry a week later, there's a view that Donegal would be better off missing the league final and spending the weekend of March 29-30 studying Jim's indoctrination manual while locked away in a Rottweiler-guarded location.
Mayo 2023 are, allegedly, living proof of how reaching the league final can damage a season for finalists who have a championship game a week later. Mayo won the league two years ago but lost to Roscommon in the Connacht quarter-final.
The defeat was largely attributed to the quick turnaround, something of an insult to Roscommon, who had finished just two points behind Mayo on the league table. Besides, Roscommon beating Mayo can never be regarded as a major surprise.
The same applies to Derry beating Donegal. Despite that, it will be put forward as the reason if Donegal reach the league final and lose a week later. Still, it's wrong that the league finals and football championship launch are so close. A two-week break makes far more sense, not just for the teams but also from a promotional viewpoint.
The leagues are being downgraded by a schedule which has - rightly or wrongly - created the impression that reaching the finals isn't good for championship prospects.
Of course, it doesn't apply to all counties. Because of the draw restrictions imposed in Leinster and Munster, you won't find Dublin or Kerry facing a championship game a week after the league final. It's a case of success begetting privilege.
There's an obvious solution to all of this. Playing the All-Ireland finals in the second half of August would allow the season to breathe again. Instead, it's squeezed into six months, with the leagues the main casualties.
It's utterly illogical from a promotional viewpoint, but that doesn't seem to register among the decision-makers.
Other sports are working assiduously at maximising promotional opportunities - meanwhile, the GAA allow the leagues to be undermined by scheduling nonsense.
They will come to regret it.

The under 20 panel already exists as they have played a couple of challenge games. The minor team have won a match in the Ulster League, and I have seen neither team or panel named.
Derry LGFA seem to put out a release for panels from under 14 up although not sure they are easy to find, but at least players get a bit of recognition, and I presume feel valued.
Maybe I am being naïve in thinking players and their clubs would take a bit of pride in them being selected for the county and supporters actually knowing it.
Seems to be a problem across the counties and whilst I am sure the PROs are doing their best it does seem a simple thing to put a squad up somewhere and try to generate a bit of interest.
On an optimistic point the tweaks to the new rules might suit Derry since we don't have a big reliance on the roving goalkeeper.

Maybe the respective managers don't want to have their teams known to others.

On that, the GAA as a whole, is a strange beast. We shoot ourselves in the foot in promotion of our games. There is a culture not to let any other team know they are doing.

Their lack of player availability to the media is shocking.

We have a league here where the marketing system of the GAA refuse to promote ( hopefully Allianz is on its last legs with their continuing insurance of Elbit systems). The finals are a week before the Championship for some teams and managers who are on the cusp of winning this competition, openly state they don't want to win it.

The GAA should put in place laws where counties have to release players for media duties.

When registering players involuntarily so they can play a competition but they have yet to pay fees on an forieann; is there an option for them to pay again on an foireann later in season? Or because you have said they paid, is that it?

Is that similar to ckubzap?

Yes, they can actually redo it themselves, can't remember how mind you as I done it myself. We set up a Klubfunder link and got them to pay that way.

When registering players involuntarily so they can play a competition but they have yet to pay fees on an forieann; is there an option for them to pay again on an foireann later in season? Or because you have said they paid, is that it?

This game is a pile of crap

The highest underage level was county minor, or it was, when it was U18. Nobody wants to play in a school team of 3/4 schools, especially as local schools dislike each other. It not about progressing players to county level, that what county minor and U20 are for. It's the chance for a school team to win a MacCrory Cup, no more.

I'll counteract that.

Cathair Doire entered a team this year in McRory, really no chance of winning it, but time and time again when interviewed, the coaches said it's about experience and it's true.

Do the schools that are part of the amalgamation have single school teams for those who aren't good enough for the amalgamation (maybe playing in one of the lower competitions). The amalgamation is obviously good for the few from each school who make the team, not so good for those that would be on their own school team if it existed.

Had a quick look - both Gaoth Dobhair and Glenties schools made the quarters of the Markey Cup, GD are still in it at the semi stage. No idea if the amalgamation players from either played, or what the other schools are at. I'd imagine their normal teams would still go ahead.

My Oul school at St.  Columbs do that. Won a Markey Cup semi-final today. Think we win it a few years back. When I was at it, we got to three McLarnon finals in a row, winning one. If non-grammar schools were allowed to compete back then, I dare say we would have been a middle of the road team back then. Up the Catholic hierarchy!!

[He's done 4 houses in our street, currently across the street at a neighbours now.]

On average, what is a price of a new kitchen back home these days? How much installation on average?

What companies did people go with?

My advice would be to seek out a good joiner, pick your kitchen, and they should be able to source the units etc from a couple of wholesalers for a much better price. Obviously, if you're a big hitter, which you are, the stone worktops and boiling / fizzy water taps will cost you 😁

We got a new kitchen 2/3 years ago and that's what we did, got a joiner who specialises in kitchens, there's one place (think it's in Derry) that provides your kitchen doors, he'd a  brochure and she picked the doors, he then gutted the kitchen, I took up the existing tiles, saved a couple of hundred but wouldn't bother as it was a bitta effort, he also took the wall down off a back room that extended the kitchen, he provided the sparks and plumber, paid them separately but they all were there on time and good job.

He's done 4 houses in our street, currently across the street at a neighbours now. He's a perfectionist and did a great job.

I'd say we saved thousands rather than going to a kitchen showroom and paying them..

Ahahah craicer wan.