Paddy Jackson apology

[Tony Baloney]

Happy that these English clubs are being held to account. If they're toxic in Ireland why wouldn't they be in the same country they were tried?

You're toxic. They sent and received a few dodgy messages. Big deal, they should be allowed to apologise and move on the way adults do in the real world.

[Syferus]

Happy that these English clubs are being held to account. If they're toxic in Ireland why wouldn't they be in the same country they were tried?

You're toxic. They sent and received a few dodgy messages. Big deal, they should be allowed to apologise and move on the way adults do in the real world.

Most people believe they gang-raped a girl. And even if you don't, if you think their behaviour was morally good or something any sponsor or family-orientated club would want to associate itself with you are, in a word, wrong.

[Gmac]

They should be sent to hell or to Connacht

[seafoid]

You would wonder if there isn't some deal that could be struck with the complainant to get the boys out of the untouchable zone.

[brokencrossbar1]

You would wonder if there isn't some deal that could be struck with the complainant to get the boys out of the untouchable zone.

What like?  For her to make a statement that they didn't actually rape her and that she in fact perjured herself? Or write a reference to the clubs on the back of them paying her £100k saying that even though she said under oath they are rapists that actually they're good guys? Seriously what do you expect. Unfortunately in the court of public opinion they are deemed untouchable. They will carry the stigma of 'no smoke without fire' for the rest of their lives. They'd be as well to learn the rules of American Football and head to the stars and play that out there!!!

[general_lee]

At this point, I find it incredibly difficult to grasp how people can be 100% certain the men are guiltily. I likewise can't understand how anyone can be 100% sure they're innocent. The only person(s) who can be 100% certain are the complainant and the accused, and even they weren't sure of their stories. The next best placed people are the jury, and I have enough confidence that going on the evidence presented and under the current legislation they made the correct decision. Being misogynistic over whatsapp is not a crime and does not indicate guilt.

While I agree the law does not sit favourably with women who may be the victims of rape, why the outcry now? Why not before?  Just because the accused were famous? Are they now not permitted to return to their profession because they and their mates were sleazy in a whatsapp group?

[Minder]

Happy that these English clubs are being held to account. If they're toxic in Ireland why wouldn't they be in the same country they were tried?

You're toxic. They sent and received a few dodgy messages. Big deal, they should be allowed to apologise and move on the way adults do in the real world.

Most people believe they gang-raped a girl. And even if you don't, if you think their behaviour was morally good or something any sponsor or family-orientated club would want to associate itself with you are, in a word, wrong.

Eh?

[brokencrossbar1]

Happy that these English clubs are being held to account. If they're toxic in Ireland why wouldn't they be in the same country they were tried?

You're toxic. They sent and received a few dodgy messages. Big deal, they should be allowed to apologise and move on the way adults do in the real world.

Most people believe they gang-raped a girl. And even if you don't, if you think their behaviour was morally good or something any sponsor or family-orientated club would want to associate itself with you are, in a word, wrong.

Eh?

If you repeat a lie often enough you soon start believeing your own BS!

[seafoid]

You would wonder if there isn't some deal that could be struck with the complainant to get the boys out of the untouchable zone.

What like?  For her to make a statement that they didn't actually rape her and that she in fact perjured herself? Or write a reference to the clubs on the back of them paying her £100k saying that even though she said under oath they are rapists that actually they're good guys? Seriously what do you expect. Unfortunately in the court of public opinion they are deemed untouchable. They will carry the stigma of 'no smoke without fire' for the rest of their lives. They'd be as well to learn the rules of American Football and head to the stars and play that out there!!!

Something left field.  Like establishing a foundation to explain consent to all 17 year olds in NI.
Jsckson could lose £2 m if this situation persists indefinitely. He and Olding are trapped in a toxic discourse and they have to reframe it. Everyone has the potential to change and they deserve this to be recognised. But they have to make the first move.

[brokencrossbar1]

You would wonder if there isn't some deal that could be struck with the complainant to get the boys out of the untouchable zone.

What like?  For her to make a statement that they didn't actually rape her and that she in fact perjured herself? Or write a reference to the clubs on the back of them paying her £100k saying that even though she said under oath they are rapists that actually they're good guys? Seriously what do you expect. Unfortunately in the court of public opinion they are deemed untouchable. They will carry the stigma of 'no smoke without fire' for the rest of their lives. They'd be as well to learn the rules of American Football and head to the stars and play that out there!!!

Something left field.  Like establishing a foundation to explain consent to all 17 year olds in NI.
Jsckson could lose £2 m if this situation persists indefinitely. He and Olding are trapped in a toxic discourse and they have to reframe it. Everyone has the potential to change and they deserve this to be recognised. But they have to make the first move.

Honestly they are too far gone. If their own brethren and kin won't have them about the shop how will others do so. Honestly they need to go abroad to France or Italy or bloody Canada if they have to just to reestablish themselves

[Rawhide]

The lunacy of it all. You have Tony Blair who was responsible for murdering thousands of people on the basis of a lie, all for oil, now walking about now earning a fortune, treated like a king, then you have two ruby players guilty of boasting about their sexual exploits on a WhatsApp and they are untouchable. The world is truly rotten

[longballin]

The lunacy of it all. You have Tony Blair who was responsible for murdering thousands of people on the basis of a lie, all for oil, now walking about now earning a fortune, treated like a king, then you have two ruby players guilty of boasting about their sexual exploits on a WhatsApp and they are untouchable. The world is truly rotten

aye it is not a just world, they were out of order but paying such a heavy price. Then you have Mike Tyson a convicted rapist feted in America as for the President...  so many examples

[Owen Brannigan]

You would wonder if there isn't some deal that could be struck with the complainant to get the boys out of the untouchable zone.

What like?  For her to make a statement that they didn't actually rape her and that she in fact perjured herself? Or write a reference to the clubs on the back of them paying her £100k saying that even though she said under oath they are rapists that actually they're good guys? Seriously what do you expect. Unfortunately in the court of public opinion they are deemed untouchable. They will carry the stigma of 'no smoke without fire' for the rest of their lives. They'd be as well to learn the rules of American Football and head to the stars and play that out there!!!

Something left field.  Like establishing a foundation to explain consent to all 17 year olds in NI.
Jsckson could lose £2 m if this situation persists indefinitely. He and Olding are trapped in a toxic discourse and they have to reframe it. Everyone has the potential to change and they deserve this to be recognised. But they have to make the first move.

Honestly they are too far gone. If their own brethren and kin won't have them about the shop how will others do so. Honestly they need to go abroad to France or Italy or bloody Canada if they have to just to reestablish themselves

Bennetton or Zebra would gladly take the two of them but would that become an issue for the Pro14?

Any of the struggling French teams would take Jackson but there are plenty of journeymen like Olding in the professional game.

Daily Mail has ensured that only a brave English premiership club will take these boys but the Championship might be an option if the English authorities do not close off promotion to the Premiership.

[Farrandeelin]

Happy that these English clubs are being held to account. If they're toxic in Ireland why wouldn't they be in the same country they were tried?

You're toxic. They sent and received a few dodgy messages. Big deal, they should be allowed to apologise and move on the way adults do in the real world.

Most people believe they gang-raped a girl. And even if you don't, if you think their behaviour was morally good or something any sponsor or family-orientated club would want to associate itself with you are, in a word, wrong.

Evidence of your first sentence please Syf.

[screenexile]

Happy that these English clubs are being held to account. If they're toxic in Ireland why wouldn't they be in the same country they were tried?

You're toxic. They sent and received a few dodgy messages. Big deal, they should be allowed to apologise and move on the way adults do in the real world.

Most people believe they gang-raped a girl. And even if you don't, if you think their behaviour was morally good or something any sponsor or family-orientated club would want to associate itself with you are, in a word, wrong.

Evidence of your first sentence please Syf.

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