National Hurling Legue 1B 2018

Started by redsetanta, October 13, 2017, 04:17:52 PM

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clonadmad

Quote from: Tobias on December 12, 2017, 03:26:05 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on December 11, 2017, 09:33:44 AM
Quote from: Tobias on December 11, 2017, 03:11:16 AM
Westmeath gave a full Tipp team a good rattle in the championship last year. Man for man we are better than Westmeath.

You are delusional if you think Laois at the minute would get within 12/15 points of Tipperary

What did Dublin beat us by this year?

How much of a hiding did Tipp then dish out to Dublin?


My point is if Westmeath can do it we should be able to (albeit a once off). IMO we are better than Westmeath, as results show we have consistently beaten them in league and championship.
Its not even the new year and the pessimism is almost at max level.

Far from pessimistic but grounded in reality.

The way I see it there are 3 distinct groupings within the "elite" hurling counties at the minute

Group 1 Kerry,Westmeath,Offaly and Laois

Group 2 Dublin,Wexford,Cork,Limerick,Clare and Kilkenny

Group 3 Tipperary,Waterford and Galway

Laois should be aiming to dominate group 1 and be looking to get into a position in group 2 where we are very competitive and taking the odd scalp in the next 2/3 years

redsetanta

The gap between 2 and 3 is alot closer than the gap between 1 and 2.

We will see how the hurling league and championship goes this year to see if we are improving. We cannot afford any injuries or suspensions like last year as we simply don't have the strength in depth.
The real glory is being knocked to your knees and then coming back. That's real glory. VinceLombardi

burdizzo

You'll hardly get a year w/out a significant injury.
Also, I think there is a far bigger gap between the notional group 2 and 3, than 1 and 2. Any of that third group could expect a decent hammering off any of group 2, whereas the same cannot be said of any group 2 team playing one of the top three.

redsetanta

In fairness we lost 4 starting forwards for the Dublin game last year. King, Maher, Cha and Willie Dunphy. A small county can't compete with players of that calibre missing.
The real glory is being knocked to your knees and then coming back. That's real glory. VinceLombardi

redsetanta

The real glory is being knocked to your knees and then coming back. That's real glory. VinceLombardi

Helix

Any word if Ben Conroy back with hurlers? Football panel was cut at weekend. Would be good addition if he's back!
It's hardly possible to build anything if frustration, bitterness and a mood of helplessness prevail

redsetanta

First game of new campaign tomorrow.

Few new faces in and King captain again for the year. Good to see Joe Phelan of Camross in the team.
The real glory is being knocked to your knees and then coming back. That's real glory. VinceLombardi

redsetanta

KK in O'Moore Park tomorrow evening under lights. Most probably an U21 team however most of the Laois team will be of the same age so a good test for them. Not often we get to play the cats and hopefully the lads are up for the challenge.
The real glory is being knocked to your knees and then coming back. That's real glory. VinceLombardi

merman

Team vs Kilkenny tonight:

Eoin Fleming (Borris-Kilcotton)
Joe Phelan (Camross)
Leigh Bergin (Shanahoe)
Lee Cleere (Clough-Ballacolla)
Jack Kelly (Rathdowney-Errill)
James Ryan (Rathdowney-Errill)
Eric Killeen (Rathdowney-Errill)
Paddy Purcell (Rathdowney-Errill)
Liam Delaney (Abbeyleix)
Cian Taylor (Portlaoise)
Cha Dwyer (Ballinakill)
Aidan Corby (Clough-Ballacolla)
Podge Delaney (The Harps)
Eanna Lyons (Ballyfin)
CiarĂ¡n Collier (Camross)

Throw-in is at 7pm in OMP.

Best of luck to the lads. Going to be a tough examination.

burdizzo


redsetanta

KK really racking up the scores in the second half. Sounds like it was reasonable competitive for the first 15mins or so.
The real glory is being knocked to your knees and then coming back. That's real glory. VinceLombardi

oneflewoverthecuckoonest

#71
well that was desperate stuff tonight against an experimental Kilkenny team. you can make all the excuses you want, if Westmeath were playing that KK team, the game would have been in the melting pot with ten mins to go, and at best it would have been a single digit win for kk.
I fear we are going to get some unmerciful trimmings in the league.

what is so annoying is that the set up is costing serious money and in this age of virtually professional backroom staff, they should be able to prepare a team to give a makeshift opponent a proper test on home soil, instead of getting a 25pts plus tonking.

these players have been training for the last 8 weeks or so.............I predict any couple of ordinary guys could have gone round the county yesterday and assembled a team without training that would have given a better account than that tonight.

the professional age of GAA is simply squeezing the last flickers of hope out of small counties such as our own.

SpeculativeEffort

As far as I can see jerseys are earned in Kk on back of club form. These lads getting a chance are hungry to impress and hell bent on taking their chance. Laois on the other hand are handing jerseys to lads who havent proved themselves at club level nevermind county.

redsetanta

Just curious to know who you would have in there that hasn't been asked already. What players are better than the current squad?

Please don't include lads that were asked and declined or lads that are injured at the moment.
The real glory is being knocked to your knees and then coming back. That's real glory. VinceLombardi

redsetanta

For anyone at the game last night, of the new lads who performed well for Laois?
The real glory is being knocked to your knees and then coming back. That's real glory. VinceLombardi