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Roscommon black card - correct call
Tyrone red card - incorrect call
Roscommon square ball - incorrect call

Both teams very good at pretending to be injured when there was nothing wrong with them. 

I actually thought black card was correct and the yellow leading to red was correct too. It was a high tackle.
Was never a square ball.
Poor enough game.
Tyrone will be happy with the young lads and the points.
Roscommon might be happy given how close they were without so many players, but they didn't play well.

Don't be confused.
It was a straight red.
The yellow was for someone else.

[Roscommon square ball - incorrect call]

Roscommon black card - correct call
Tyrone red card - incorrect call
Roscommon square ball - incorrect call

Both teams very good at pretending to be injured when there was nothing wrong with them. 

Had a look at it again. Definitely the correct call.
The square ball for the final play is tight though I think it might just be one.
However, before that the ball comes in and a Roscommon player starts in the square, then runs across the square to collect the ball.
Tough one for Roscommon but officials got it right.

If a late shoulder to shoulder warranted a black card in this game then  that late collision is a red card.

I'd say the officials thought it to be reckless and dangerous more than clumsy

What Ruane did is exactly in the wording of the black card rule, not some loose interpretation by this ref.

If Ruane's shoulder was determined to deliberately cynical then  imo the red card was fair game.

5.12 To deliberately collide with an opponent after that opponent has played the ball away


Square ball was tight but looked correct. Didn't show a great angle.

If a late shoulder to shoulder warranted a black card in this game then  that late collision is a red card.

I'd say the officials thought it to be reckless and dangerous more than clumsy

What Ruane did is exactly in the wording of the black card rule, not some loose interpretation by this ref.

You can't be drinking 3/4 days. No training in the week then try to play a top level game at the weekend.strange decision by Harte playing these men.

Were they drinking for 3/4 days though? I imagine McFaul doesn't drink now for one.
I'd be surprised if Harte played them had they been on the drink all week but chances are they weren't.
I'd say his reasoning is that they are flying at their peak and Derry might as well use it to their benefit.

They were 100% on the drink and why wouldn't they!! Surprised they played but they're adults if they want to play why shouldn't they.

Thought we were by far the better team but made hard work of it.

Great start!

Because some people don't drink. The weirdos.

You can't be drinking 3/4 days. No training in the week then try to play a top level game at the weekend.strange decision by Harte playing these men.

Were they drinking for 3/4 days though? I imagine McFaul doesn't drink now for one.
I'd be surprised if Harte played them had they been on the drink all week but chances are they weren't.
I'd say his reasoning is that they are flying at their peak and Derry might as well use it to their benefit.

An issue with injury time?
Heard that Magherafelt line were roaring on to their players that there were 4 minutes to be played but it was blown up after 2.

To be fair, perhaps I was being facetious in reference to the "good thing for Antrim" comments made previously.
Seeing as you have made it again, can I ask what that sentiment is based on?
It's just I don't think I've ever seen a link between Antrim teams doing well in this and football improving in Antrim.
Maybe I'm wrong but Antrim teams won (not just did well, but actually buckin won) this competition in 2006, 2008 and 2011 and for the life of me I can't see how it had any positive impact on the standard, quality or fortunes of football in our county.
It is of course nice to see schools from Antrim have success in colleges football but its place in the bigger picture is negligible, it seems.

Some play for Magherafelt too. I wouldn't suggest that an Antrim school is in the MacRory Cup semi final tonight.

All Antrim schools now out of the McLarnon Cup. Can't be a good thing.

Then you look at that game this evening and wonder why they are making the referee fitness tests more difficult. He could bring a deck chair with him.

Whiskey in the Jar

All versions.

Good to see St Malachys back playing a level colleges.. any reports how they getting on in the Oisin McGrath? 

Be interesting. They won the C competition last year which they should never have been in and decided to entirely bypass the B competition.

What should they do then?

A good start might be to call on the DUP to go into government rather than aiming their anger at CHH.

They don't need the DUP in Government to get a pay rise. CHH has it in his power.

What should they do then?

A good start might be to call on the DUP to go into government rather than aiming their anger at CHH.

They don't need the DUP in Government to get a pay rise. CHH has it in his power.

I actually don't think he has. He would have to suspend Stormont to do that, AFAIK... but not 100% on that.
But playing devils advocate for a moment, if he does have the power then what's the point of Stormont? Surely then we just move back to direct rule? We're kind of riding two horses.... if you get me. That would be his argument I suppose. 

That wasn't an argument when the British government gave Brandon Lewis the authority to implement abortion laws here.
Of course they can sort these pay deals and public funding without the Stormont executive. Unfortunately people don't matter to these hoors. It's all a game.

[probably trying to avoid the usual sectarian trap]

What should they do then?

A good start might be to call on the DUP to go into government rather than aiming their anger at CHH.

are they not blaming both?

Not really, the DUP have gotten away quite lightly from the unions IMO, probably trying to avoid the usual sectarian trap, but in this instance it's either CHH who doesn't give a flying fúck about this place or the DUP who believe if they hold out for long enough the UK Government are going to magically change an international trade agreement they have with the EU!

I could see how that is the case but there is more to it than that as well. The reason for the DUP not going into Stormont (the reason they are giving nor the real reason) is totally unrelated to the public sector pay increase and today's strike. The only person trying to link them is CHH. He is holding the DUP to ransom with another man's money. The other man is protesting about that today.
So, while the majority on this forum believe the DUP are wanchors and should return, it could still very well be a legitimate position for someone to feel that they are right not to return until "Act of Union blah blah" AND believe that public pay increases should be implemented.

Well he and the Tories know the DUP can be bought and paid for (ala Teresa May and the confidence and supply agreement) and if you think the Tories somehow magic'd another few billion out of their arses just for NI workers then you're as gullible as the next.
The extra few billion was the carrot for wee Jeff to sell going back into Stormont as a win to his base, he failed to do so and there's no way CHH is going to stump up on that money if they don't.

Why do you think no other party has been able to see this "deal" other than the DUP?

The ordinary worker is indeed the pawn in all this, that's not right, but these are dirty feckers when it comes to politics.

And that's why they are the focus of the anger.