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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: September 12, 2018, 04:32:29 PM »
I wouldn’t be too complimentary.

I could think of at least one,who shall we say,is less committed in
the role than Ciaran ever was,and that’s damning him with faint praise.

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: September 12, 2018, 02:41:48 PM »
I see Ciaran Muldowney has stepped down as a Laois GDA.

Got a nice text off him last week thanking me for the work I do in the club. I always got on well with him. He’ll be a loss.
I see His job has been advertised.

Hard to stay fresh in a job like for 17 years,I was under the impression that Ciaran was taking a leave of absence for a year,but it now looks like the position is being advertised as a long term role.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Attendances
« on: September 05, 2018, 12:25:47 PM »
What were the average per game attendance in 2018 in both hurling and football and how do they compare to previous years?

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: August 28, 2018, 04:10:51 PM »
Those Tipp, Limerick, Cork teams etc will reconvene in November and follow a 12-14 week s&c programme before beginning training 2-3 times a week next year, our lads won’t have that continuity
It will be meet up again next spring for an hour of a Saturday.

We have no overarching plans to bring a groups through improving them all the time

Me and my three sisters are at an age where, between us, we have four teenage sons and two twelve year olds all of whom play hurling. Three of the boys are currently on development squads so basically we're on the road the whole time and I see first hand a lot of what's going on. Last year, The U14s did 8 weeks of S+C work in Heywood before Christmas and 8 after Christmas (as U15s). That's a bit more than "meeting up next spring for an hour". The current 15 year olds are an excellent group, both the players and management. Their results and progress are of the highest order. This year's 14s mentors carried 48 at any one time. Overall, between injuries, call ups etc over 50 players were involved in a county set up. They all improved dramatically and they were very competitive in their games. All players, including the very weakest, were treated very fairly and got lots of game time each day.

Our biggest problems i think are:

1. Our playing population is just too small. Contrast our numbers with Tipp, Cork and Galway.

2. Dual issue. While players are encouraged to play both the simple fact of the matter is you can't be a top level hurler if you're equally committed to anything else.

3. Our Secondary Schools are just not operating at a high enough level.

Zoom while I agree with you on the u15’s in terms of players and mentors,the one issue I would have is that didn’t run trials for anyone outside the group this year or last.

The 3 points that you have raised are correct,how would you overcome or try and bridge the gap?

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: August 28, 2018, 01:54:10 PM »
From reading a lot about Limericks underage academy, led by Joe McKenna & Gerry McManus you can see the detail & efforts they have gone to,

Same with Kilkenny, who are excellent at upskilling coaches and giving kids & parents something to belong to & want to be part of, their s&c programme led by Sean Kelly for all of the kids from u14 upwards,

Cork also, as said earlier here their set up is miles ahead as can be seen from last weekend with their s&c coaches & hurling coaches with the u14s,
We have to have a plan!! Otherwise it’s just a wish!!

 at the National Coaching conference this year Brian Cuthnert have a presentation on a great plan about implementing the acadamey through secondary schools have a look below


https://youtu.be/ZLlu4F-Lhcw

We have beaten Limerick in each of the last two Tony Forristals. There's obviously some good work being done.

I’m not for a minute being critical of the coaches there at the minute,Zoom

In fact I’m the opposite

I want to deepen the number of options the mentors can choose and improve everyone that picks up a Hurley at u15 in this county.

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: August 28, 2018, 11:55:17 AM »
How would you suggest addressing the athletic development issue ?
Laps

We have no structure or Co-ordinated plan,we are  a long way behind the big and even medium  guns so we need to work smart and hard to catch up

We have 16 u15 hurling teams with roughly 300 players in total

Here’s my plan October to March

Friday/Saturday evening hire a sizeable sports hall or school hall in laois

Week 1
Get 2 clubs full u15 panels in both the Friday and Saturday nights with mentors,go through and show the requirements needed,these go home and do the 3 weeks program as set out by the GDA’s/S&C person

Week 2 next 4 clubs,Week 3 next 4 clubs,Week 4 next 4 clubs

Week 1 clubs come back in Week 5 for an assessment of where they are and what tweaks/adjustments need to be put in place.

They then come back in Week 9/13/17

GDA’s should be on hand to visit clubs when they are doing their 3 week “home” cycle if at all possible

I look forward to Ye ripping it to shreds.


Not the worst idea I have ever heard but should be applied to both football and hurling

You’d have crossover already with a certain amount of footballers on hurling teams

But,yes it could and should be rolled out to cover all u15’s

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: August 27, 2018, 11:26:49 PM »
How would you suggest addressing the athletic development issue ?
Laps

We have no structure or Co-ordinated plan,we are  a long way behind the big and even medium  guns so we need to work smart and hard to catch up

We have 16 u15 hurling teams with roughly 300 players in total

Here’s my plan October to March

Friday/Saturday evening hire a sizeable sports hall or school hall in laois

Week 1
Get 2 clubs full u15 panels in both the Friday and Saturday nights with mentors,go through and show the requirements needed,these go home and do the 3 weeks program as set out by the GDA’s/S&C person

Week 2 next 4 clubs,Week 3 next 4 clubs,Week 4 next 4 clubs

Week 1 clubs come back in Week 5 for an assessment of where they are and what tweaks/adjustments need to be put in place.

They then come back in Week 9/13/17

GDA’s should be on hand to visit clubs when they are doing their 3 week “home” cycle if at all possible

I look forward to Ye ripping it to shreds.

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: August 27, 2018, 03:36:58 PM »
Great credit to u15 A hurlers winning the shield in Cashel, in the A beating the likes of Wexford and Waterford,the mentors over them have an extremely tight group and have taken ownership of that group and have driven on with them

The U14' A team missed a penalty and 5/6 very scorable chances in a game they could and should have won,still a massive improvement on the hockeying they received from the same Wexford team about 6 weeks back.

A last minute goal saw them over the line against Limerick and it was a well deserved win

Cork were the favorites to win it out and so it was proved,all huge young lads and depth in the panel


the Laois Team that took place in the C competition (they didnt qualify for the Forristal B,Westmeath won the qualifying competition in the CoE 2 saturdays ago),played and bet the likes of Down Derry and were well beaten by Meath,they lost to a well drilled Carlow team in the shield C final,easy to be critical,but if we had played our keeper in the goals, we would have been closer.

From looking at these games

2 things stand out

Firstly we don't have the support teams that nearly every other team we face has.

We are lacking in both fitness and athletic development.






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Laois / Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
« on: August 14, 2018, 01:12:04 PM »
Jesus lads Spink have had some fall in a short period of time, i know that hurling is the main sport over there and that they are getting lads from 2 hurling clubs but at this stage they would be better off letting the lads that actually want to kick ball go to cretty or wherever. Because its unfair at this stage. I remember talking to a lad a few years ago when they brought the ballinakill lads in and said it would kill off spink and split the community, seemed like madness when they were going well at inter but by jaysus that man was spot on
Some sense there, but at the same time, Spink are making massive strides at underage and hopefully will regenerate again in a few years if they can keep that coming. Amalgamations are grand if lads buy into them, but at the end of the day, a hurler will always put hurling first, and vice versa.

Where are the massive strides in Juvenile when they are in with Park at some grades and word is that they  have made approach’s to a few of their neighbors for a full Juvenile amalgamation from next year.
How many grades are they with Park for? I'm around long enough to know Spink had f**k all on their own for years ,the fact that they're doing anything at underage level is a massive stride.

Who are they are U17 with?

I agree with Ballyroan though, full amalgamations are the way forward for a number of these clubs who are on their knees.

Well if they are making the “massive” strides that you suggest they are making

Why then are going around to 2/3 clubs looking to amalgamate on a long term basis,all their Juvenile teams from next year

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Laois / Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
« on: August 14, 2018, 10:14:10 AM »
Jesus lads Spink have had some fall in a short period of time, i know that hurling is the main sport over there and that they are getting lads from 2 hurling clubs but at this stage they would be better off letting the lads that actually want to kick ball go to cretty or wherever. Because its unfair at this stage. I remember talking to a lad a few years ago when they brought the ballinakill lads in and said it would kill off spink and split the community, seemed like madness when they were going well at inter but by jaysus that man was spot on
Some sense there, but at the same time, Spink are making massive strides at underage and hopefully will regenerate again in a few years if they can keep that coming. Amalgamations are grand if lads buy into them, but at the end of the day, a hurler will always put hurling first, and vice versa.

Where are the massive strides in Juvenile when they are in with Park at some grades and word is that they  have made approach’s to a few of their neighbors for a full Juvenile amalgamation from next year.

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Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling championship 2018
« on: August 13, 2018, 01:45:29 PM »
Under a week to go and I've managed to secure a ticket for the final.. looking forward to this, just to see if Galway can back up what they did last year or can Limerick shock everyone and get over the line.. they missed the boat a few years ago 95/96?, I was at the match and remember that they wouldn't have a better chance to win, Carey was brilliant and Kirby missed a few, think he ended up with a broken hand..

The craic should be mighty

Liam Dunne,it was that done Kirby

And if roasted is a euphemism for giving a lad the butt of the hurl into the nuts before the ball was thrown in,then Brennan roasted Hickey all right

Limerick suffered heartbreak in 94 against us when our lads went mad for 5 minutes. In 96 they lost to a worse Wexford team, in my opinion. Gary Kirby's finger was broken very early in the game in 'suspicious' circumstances.

They also lost badly in 07 when they were outmatched v Kilkenny and Eddie Brennan roasted Seamus Hickey early on.

I'd love to see them win this.

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Laois / Re: Laois Club Referees
« on: August 08, 2018, 06:21:49 PM »
torn between

Eoin Scully

Artie O’Connor

Pat Moran


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Laois / Re: Laois Hurling Manager 2019
« on: August 08, 2018, 06:17:30 PM »
Eddie Brennan

Outsider,Expensive and such a success at u21 level

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Laois / Re: Under age amalgamation
« on: July 31, 2018, 11:49:04 PM »
Lads have the best of intentions but when it comes down to it a lot of them will be training hard and getting ready for football championship.
They'll find it hard to justify the risk themselves, and that's before pressure comes on from management, teammates or "supporters".

This doesn't apply at Under 9/11/13/15 level. If they only entered these teams and we got 3/4 extra hurlers per age group going in with Development Squads it would be a huge boost.
For example, only for the persistence of their parents, Laois Hurling would never have seen the Comerfords play minor/senior.
If the clubs won't allow/support adult teams fine. There is no reason they cant enter teams at juvenile level.

Well said

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