Should An Glenn object?

Started by OrchardOrange, January 24, 2023, 11:37:12 AM

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AI club final controversy

Yes - Typical Dubs up to no good as usual
30 (19.1%)
No - Typical Nordies causing mischief as usual
21 (13.4%)
Should not have to. GAA HQ should already have called a replay
106 (67.5%)

Total Members Voted: 157

Voting closed: January 26, 2023, 11:37:12 AM

tonto1888

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2023, 10:34:21 PM
It can be exploited also, so it's got to be no subs in injury time

or just add on 30s per sub regardless of when they come on

tonto1888

Quote from: fearbrags on January 24, 2023, 11:05:35 PM
In Fairness  if it was a Tyrone team in place of Dubs,  we would already have decided that they did it on purpose and  a replay would already be ordered a or the game would be awarded to the opposition ;)

and we would be correct haha

tonto1888

Quote from: fearbrags on January 24, 2023, 11:21:52 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 24, 2023, 11:12:12 PM
Quote from: fearbrags on January 24, 2023, 11:05:35 PM
In Fairness  if it was a Tyrone team in place of Dubs,  we would already have decided that they did it on purpose and  a replay would already be ordered a or the game would be awarded to the opposition ;)
But they definitely would have done it on purpose!
It would have made the decision easier I guess, ;) but the Dubs are no angels  , One all Ireland finished the Dubs one point ahead Mayo , Mayo Goalkeeper trying to kick the ball out and four sets of players grappling on the ground , No remarks past   ""they were all at it ""  8)

were the Dubs grappling with themselves?

seafoid

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 25, 2023, 05:36:23 AM
Quote from: J70 on January 25, 2023, 01:54:23 AM
Good for Glen.

Disgrace that they had to take the initiative to force action however.

Rules is rules. Club has to object. Could be a good time to revisit that rule and get something on the agenda for the next Congress to allow the CCC to order a replay without having to wait for the club to put something in.
That wouldn't be fair. I can't wait to see KC's objection.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

RedHand88

How do you get a cork back into a bottle of Moet?

seafoid

KC need to come up with something to counter Wattys and avoid a replay. What can they come up with ?

Wattys failed to bring on an extra sub so it's their fault
Everybody is just jealous of us
It's the ref's fault. The ref should be forfeited
What about them ?
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Milltown Row2

Quote from: seafoid on January 25, 2023, 08:22:47 AM
KC need to come up with something to counter Wattys and avoid a replay. What can they come up with ?

Wattys failed to bring on an extra sub so it's their fault
Everybody is just jealous of us
It's the ref's fault. The ref should be forfeited
What about them ?

So what did KC do wrong here?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

RedHand88

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2023, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: seafoid on January 25, 2023, 08:22:47 AM
KC need to come up with something to counter Wattys and avoid a replay. What can they come up with ?

Wattys failed to bring on an extra sub so it's their fault
Everybody is just jealous of us
It's the ref's fault. The ref should be forfeited
What about them ?

So what did KC do wrong here?

They had 17 men on the pitch during play.

seafoid

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2023, 07:35:04 AM
Quote from: seafoid on January 25, 2023, 07:16:11 AM
The reason why Robbie Brennan had a picture of Kilcoo's last minute goal on his screensaver was because that goal last year not only lost them the match.
It also scared the bejaysus out of KC.
Mullin's position on the goal line inside the goal must have been deliberate. They were paranoid about another goal right at the death. And there were only 2 points in it.
They could match up with all the players outfield and still have an extra man on the line.

You are mad in the head with those theories.

Within the rules KC have the right to appeal any decision, should be interesting to read that account
Psychology is rampant in the GAA, as in any sport.
KC had that flakiness until they won but maybe it'll be back for the replay.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2023, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: seafoid on January 25, 2023, 08:22:47 AM
KC need to come up with something to counter Wattys and avoid a replay. What can they come up with ?

Wattys failed to bring on an extra sub so it's their fault
Everybody is just jealous of us
It's the ref's fault. The ref should be forfeited
What about them ?

So what did KC do wrong here?
Rule 6.44 Tsk tsk
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/01/24/16th-man-kilmacud-glen-crokes-all-ireland-club-final-controversy/
Sportsmanship cuts both ways and it was equally open to Kilmacud to offer a replay on the basis they had broken the rules and they too must be dismayed at how their "victory" has been submerged in controversy.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Milltown Row2

Quote from: RedHand88 on January 25, 2023, 08:44:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2023, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: seafoid on January 25, 2023, 08:22:47 AM
KC need to come up with something to counter Wattys and avoid a replay. What can they come up with ?

Wattys failed to bring on an extra sub so it's their fault
Everybody is just jealous of us
It's the ref's fault. The ref should be forfeited
What about them ?

So what did KC do wrong here?

They had 17 men on the pitch during play.

They made the subs, they gave the 4th official the slips and did what they had to do
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

RedHand88

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2023, 08:47:20 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 25, 2023, 08:44:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2023, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: seafoid on January 25, 2023, 08:22:47 AM
KC need to come up with something to counter Wattys and avoid a replay. What can they come up with ?

Wattys failed to bring on an extra sub so it's their fault
Everybody is just jealous of us
It's the ref's fault. The ref should be forfeited
What about them ?

So what did KC do wrong here?

They had 17 men on the pitch during play.

They made the subs, they gave the 4th official the slips and did what they had to do

Apart from slightly important bit of taking the other lad off. Do you have a horse in this race or why are you blindly defending it?

Smokin Joe

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2023, 08:47:20 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 25, 2023, 08:44:52 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 25, 2023, 08:43:33 AM
Quote from: seafoid on January 25, 2023, 08:22:47 AM
KC need to come up with something to counter Wattys and avoid a replay. What can they come up with ?

Wattys failed to bring on an extra sub so it's their fault
Everybody is just jealous of us
It's the ref's fault. The ref should be forfeited
What about them ?

So what did KC do wrong here?

They had 17 men on the pitch during play.

They made the subs, they gave the 4th official the slips and did what they had to do

substitution (noun)
"the action of replacing someone or something with another person or thing."

KC didn't do what they had to do. They didn't make a substitution, they sent an extra player on to the pitch.

Hound

#148
Quote from: whitey on January 25, 2023, 12:08:32 AM
Quote from: fearbrags on January 24, 2023, 11:21:52 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 24, 2023, 11:12:12 PM
Quote from: fearbrags on January 24, 2023, 11:05:35 PM
In Fairness  if it was a Tyrone team in place of Dubs,  we would already have decided that they did it on purpose and  a replay would already be ordered a or the game would be awarded to the opposition ;)
But they definitely would have done it on purpose!
It would have made the decision easier I guess, ;) but the Dubs are no angels  , One all Ireland finished the Dubs one point ahead Mayo , Mayo Goalkeeper trying to kick the ball out and four sets of players grappling on the ground , No remarks past   ""they were all at it ""  8)

I believe the keepers tee was also thrown into the Hill and the spare ball behind the goal was booted away for good measure

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-20470478.html

Comment at the time was that the ref could have issued 4 Black Cards to the Dubs, but of course he bottled it



(That might have been another game though)
Mad that so many swallow the lies fed by the Mayo and the media!

There was enormous whinging and lies by Mayo and the media over this incident (2017 final).  Maybe to deflect they'd bottled it, or to avoid Lee Keegan getting a ban for the most blatant piece of cheating even seen in an All Ireland final!

Rock had a last gasp free to win the match after the majestic Connolly was fouled for the umpteenth time. Ciaran Kilkenny was to pick up Keegan for the resulting kickout so had his eyes on Keegan when the threw the GPS at Rock (who didn't flinch and calmly slotted over the winning point) so Kilkenny went for Keegan and wrestled him to the ground. That was the only Dublin player who pulled an opposing player on the ground. Despite there being video proof of this (see 1.42.15 of this video), the outright lie that 4 or 5 Dublin players had wrestled opponents to the ground is still is taken as fact and often referred to in analysis (some even praise the Dubs for it as "doing all it takes to win a game" - morons, as the only impact it had was for the Dubs to fack thne kickout with a man less!).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYBFoI-fznE

Costello did throw the kicking tee. But the ref dealt with those two incidents appropriately, black for Kilkenny, yellow for Costello.

So it actually couldn't have worked out worse for the Dubs. Rock took his kick exactly on 76 minutes (there was 6 mins injury time), the initial kickout by Clarke was kicked to an area where there 3 Dubs v 2 Mayo, so Dubs were favs to win it. But the kickout had to be retaken, Dublin were thus a man down, and the ref added on another 3 minutes! (blew up at 78.55 when a Dub would have been clean through on goal). All Clarke had to do was find a Mayo man with his kickout and it's pretty certain that Mayo would have worked a scoring opportunity. But Clarke blazed it over the sideline!!

Anyway, sorry for the digression, but it's a game I love reminiscing about!

Armagh18

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2023, 10:34:21 PM
It can be exploited also, so it's got to be no subs in injury time
I know refs arent the brightest but surely they can add time on for subs....