Game of Thrones - Spoilers

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Frank_The_Tank

Quote from: Mayo4Sam on May 15, 2019, 10:05:19 AM
This has been a ball of sh!te to be honest. In no particular order

What was Arya's point in the last episode? To get that woman killed? Where did the white horse come outta?
How did Jamie just flip from being happy with the knight lady to heading off to Cersei for
No real reason
The mountain v the hound, brutal
Tyrion giving up Varys?


All in all terrible

For the bit in bold - Bran maybe controlling it and sent it?

All in all a disappointing season - think the screen writers are suffering from the books not been finished and while Martin obviously has an input into them - its not the same timespan effort he put into the first few books.  I think maybe Sansa sits on the Iron throne next week?
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

trueblue1234

So haven't managed to watch any GoT's at all. But gave in and ordered the book set there for Holidays as I'll struggle to get the time to watch all the series (Translation -. Are the books as good as the hype for the TV series?
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

bigarsedkeeper

Quote from: trueblue1234 on May 15, 2019, 10:41:01 AM
So haven't managed to watch any GoT's at all. But gave in and ordered the book set there for Holidays as I'll struggle to get the time to watch all the series (Translation -. Are the books as good as the hype for the TV series?
I think the books are very good but there is a lot of detail to take in, especially as you get through the latter ones. It's well written but it does depend what you're into. I found the books much easier to read than say Lord of the Rings. I started reading after watching season 1 way back so had some images in my head of people and places which helped at first but you definitely don't need it. Just think Sean Bean for Ned Stark but everyone else you can fill in yourself.

oakleaflad

Quote from: Mayo4Sam on May 15, 2019, 10:05:19 AM
This has been a ball of sh!te to be honest. In no particular order

What was Arya's point in the last episode? To get that woman killed? Where did the white horse come outta?
How did Jamie just flip from being happy with the knight lady to heading off to Cersei for
No real reason
The mountain v the hound, brutal
Tyrion giving up Varys?


All in all terrible
Arya's point was that she turned away from being the assassin so that she could live a somewhat normal life. Assuming Bran could have sent the horse (though didn't like that part myself).
Jamie one is obvious. He has always loved Cersei and for him, in the end, it was only the two of them that mattered.
Mountain vs Hound was grand.
Tyrion had to give Varys up or he was a goner himself. Daenerys already knew.

TabClear

#364
Saw this listed on a website. Even giving it a bye ball for certain things on the basis its a fantasy show, it highlights a few major internal inconsistencies from this episode.

1. Did Varys try to poison Daenerys?
2. Where did Varys send those letters?
3. What happened to Martha? Is Martha still alive?
4. How did Daenerys and her dragon sneak up on the Golden Company and burst through the walls of King's Landing from the inside?
5. Since when did Tyrion become such a complete idiot? Why does he continue to appeal to Cersei's good nature when she's tried to kill him a dozen times?
6. Why are those scorpions worthless all of a sudden?
7. If Drogon could to do that much damage to one city, despite about 20 scorpions aimed at him, then why were the dragons functionally useless against the White Walkers?
8. In the end, what even was the point of including the Golden Company in this show?
9. How does dragonfire destroy a fortified stone wall? Does it come out with enough force to actually explode the ramparts of King's Landing?
10. What was the point of Arya even going to King's Landing?
11. Why burn a city to the ground that you're trying to take?
12. Why kill everyone in King's Landing to hurt Cersei when Cersei made it very clear she doesn't care about anyone in King's Landing?
13. How did that horse survive all the destruction?
14. How did Arya survive the attack?
15. How did Arya and Jaime and The Hound—three very recognizable people—so easily sneak into the impenetrable Red Keep?
16. Where did Jaime and the Hound get their matching hooded cloaks? Why are Westerosi soldiers so bad at looking under hoods?
17. If it's that easy to get into the Red Keep why not just assassinate Cersei?
18. If Cersei's only motivation was to protect her child, then why did she not seem to have any battle strategy whatsoever?
19. Why didn't Cersei know the Iron Fleet had been burned? Shouldn't she have been keeping track of that kind of stuff?
20. Why didn't Cersei actually do anything with her wildfire? Wouldn't that have been useful?
21. Why didn't she have an escape plan prepared for herself and her unborn child?
22. Or why not just fly to the top of the Red Keep, assassinate Cersei with the dragon and end the war in a matter of minutes?
23. How did Euron find Jaime? What was his character motivation in trying to kill Jaime other than for writers to give him another Deus Ex Machina moment?
24. Was the Valonqar prophecy wrong?
25. What happened to the Prince That Was Promised prophecy?
26. Or the Azor Ahai prophecy?
27. Was Varys Dany's Third Betrayal? Was Tyrion her fourth? How many betrayals has she had anyway?
28. Were all of these nothing? Or will they come into play in the final episode?
29. Wouldn't it be far more satisfying to get revenge by killing Cersei personally rather than slaughtering a bunch of innocent people for no reason?
30. Why did The Undead Mountain look like a moldy, bloated Varys?
31. Who rang the bells?
32. Sup with Bran rn?
33. What are Sansa and Bran and Brienne and everyone doing back at Winterfell?
34. Does Arya's horse have some special significance? Or is it just a horse?
35. Will Dany just be queen of the ashes?
36. Why didn't Jon do anything at all in this battle or in trying to talk some sense into Dany? Or is he just so stupid and stubborn that he believed she was fine?
37. Is Dany still Jon's queen?
38. Why was Missandei's shackle literally her only possession? All these years of travel and she never picked up a book or keepsake? Did she have a change of clothes even?
39. Did the Mountain die, or is he just a well-done zombie now?
40. Where was Gendry?
41. Who took the time to light all those torches in the secret escape tunnels in the Red Keep?
4. Why was Cersei so sad that Jaime was hurt after she just sent an assassin to kill him?
43. Why did they put Davos in the front line of the battle? He old.
44. How did Cersei communicate a surrender to her peeps from all the way up in the tower?
45. Is the Iron Throne still standing or did it get destroyed with everything else?
46. Will Dragonstone be the new seat of power in Westeros?
47. Does this mean we now have to root for Jon to kill Dany?
48. Will Dany kill Tyrion now because he let Jaime escape? Does she even know he escaped? And why was it so easy for him to escape?
49. Why not make this season twice the number of episodes, scale back the massive, unnecessary production values and actually tell a story that fans deserve? Why not give Daenerys at least a few more episodes to show her descent into madness instead of flipping a switch on her?
50. Does this mean we have to wait however many years it takes George R.R. Martin to finish writing his damn books to get a worthwhile conclusion to this story?

Mayo4Sam

I don't get Bran sending the horse?
Excuse me for talking while you're trying to interrupt me

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: TabClear on May 15, 2019, 11:26:59 AM
Saw this listed on a website. Even giving it a bye ball for certain things on the basis its a fantasy show, it highlights a few major internal inconsistencies from this episode.

1. Did Varys try to poison Daenerys?
2. Where did Varys send those letters?
3. What happened to Martha? Is Martha still alive?
4. How did Daenerys and her dragon sneak up on the Golden Company and burst through the walls of King's Landing from the inside?
5. Since when did Tyrion become such a complete idiot? Why does he continue to appeal to Cersei's good nature when she's tried to kill him a dozen times?
6. Why are those scorpions worthless all of a sudden?
7. If Drogon could to do that much damage to one city, despite about 20 scorpions aimed at him, then why were the dragons functionally useless against the White Walkers?
8. In the end, what even was the point of including the Golden Company in this show?
9. How does dragonfire destroy a fortified stone wall? Does it come out with enough force to actually explode the ramparts of King's Landing?
10. What was the point of Arya even going to King's Landing?
11. Why burn a city to the ground that you're trying to take?
12. Why kill everyone in King's Landing to hurt Cersei when Cersei made it very clear she doesn't care about anyone in King's Landing?
13. How did that horse survive all the destruction?
14. How did Arya survive the attack?
15. How did Arya and Jaime and The Hound—three very recognizable people—so easily sneak into the impenetrable Red Keep?
16. Where did Jaime and the Hound get their matching hooded cloaks? Why are Westerosi soldiers so bad at looking under hoods?
17. If it's that easy to get into the Red Keep why not just assassinate Cersei?
18. If Cersei's only motivation was to protect her child, then why did she not seem to have any battle strategy whatsoever?
19. Why didn't Cersei know the Iron Fleet had been burned? Shouldn't she have been keeping track of that kind of stuff?
20. Why didn't Cersei actually do anything with her wildfire? Wouldn't that have been useful?
21. Why didn't she have an escape plan prepared for herself and her unborn child?
22. Or why not just fly to the top of the Red Keep, assassinate Cersei with the dragon and end the war in a matter of minutes?
23. How did Euron find Jaime? What was his character motivation in trying to kill Jaime other than for writers to give him another Deus Ex Machina moment?
24. Was the Valonqar prophecy wrong?
25. What happened to the Prince That Was Promised prophecy?
26. Or the Azor Ahai prophecy?
27. Was Varys Dany's Third Betrayal? Was Tyrion her fourth? How many betrayals has she had anyway?
28. Were all of these nothing? Or will they come into play in the final episode?
29. Wouldn't it be far more satisfying to get revenge by killing Cersei personally rather than slaughtering a bunch of innocent people for no reason?
30. Why did The Undead Mountain look like a moldy, bloated Varys?
31. Who rang the bells?
32. Sup with Bran rn?
33. What are Sansa and Bran and Brienne and everyone doing back at Winterfell?
34. Does Arya's horse have some special significance? Or is it just a horse?
35. Will Dany just be queen of the ashes?
36. Why didn't Jon do anything at all in this battle or in trying to talk some sense into Dany? Or is he just so stupid and stubborn that he believed she was fine?
37. Is Dany still Jon's queen?
38. Why was Missandei's shackle literally her only possession? All these years of travel and she never picked up a book or keepsake? Did she have a change of clothes even?
39. Did the Mountain die, or is he just a well-done zombie now?
40. Where was Gendry?
41. Who took the time to light all those torches in the secret escape tunnels in the Red Keep?
4. Why was Cersei so sad that Jaime was hurt after she just sent an assassin to kill him?
43. Why did they put Davos in the front line of the battle? He old.
44. How did Cersei communicate a surrender to her peeps from all the way up in the tower?
45. Is the Iron Throne still standing or did it get destroyed with everything else?
46. Will Dragonstone be the new seat of power in Westeros?
47. Does this mean we now have to root for Jon to kill Dany?
48. Will Dany kill Tyrion now because he let Jaime escape? Does she even know he escaped? And why was it so easy for him to escape?
49. Why not make this season twice the number of episodes, scale back the massive, unnecessary production values and actually tell a story that fans deserve? Why not give Daenerys at least a few more episodes to show her descent into madness instead of flipping a switch on her?
50. Does this mean we have to wait however many years it takes George R.R. Martin to finish writing his damn books to get a worthwhile conclusion to this story?


51. Whoever wrote that needs a life

oakleaflad

Yeah. Almost all of those are, as of yet, unanswered questions as opposed to inconsistencies also.

lurganblue

Quote from: TabClear on May 15, 2019, 11:26:59 AM
Saw this listed on a website. Even giving it a bye ball for certain things on the basis its a fantasy show, it highlights a few major internal inconsistencies from this episode.

1. Did Varys try to poison Daenerys?
2. Where did Varys send those letters?
3. What happened to Martha? Is Martha still alive?
4. How did Daenerys and her dragon sneak up on the Golden Company and burst through the walls of King's Landing from the inside?
5. Since when did Tyrion become such a complete idiot? Why does he continue to appeal to Cersei's good nature when she's tried to kill him a dozen times?
6. Why are those scorpions worthless all of a sudden?
7. If Drogon could to do that much damage to one city, despite about 20 scorpions aimed at him, then why were the dragons functionally useless against the White Walkers?
8. In the end, what even was the point of including the Golden Company in this show?
9. How does dragonfire destroy a fortified stone wall? Does it come out with enough force to actually explode the ramparts of King's Landing?
10. What was the point of Arya even going to King's Landing?
11. Why burn a city to the ground that you're trying to take?
12. Why kill everyone in King's Landing to hurt Cersei when Cersei made it very clear she doesn't care about anyone in King's Landing?
13. How did that horse survive all the destruction?
14. How did Arya survive the attack?
15. How did Arya and Jaime and The Hound—three very recognizable people—so easily sneak into the impenetrable Red Keep?
16. Where did Jaime and the Hound get their matching hooded cloaks? Why are Westerosi soldiers so bad at looking under hoods?
17. If it's that easy to get into the Red Keep why not just assassinate Cersei?
18. If Cersei's only motivation was to protect her child, then why did she not seem to have any battle strategy whatsoever?
19. Why didn't Cersei know the Iron Fleet had been burned? Shouldn't she have been keeping track of that kind of stuff?
20. Why didn't Cersei actually do anything with her wildfire? Wouldn't that have been useful?
21. Why didn't she have an escape plan prepared for herself and her unborn child?
22. Or why not just fly to the top of the Red Keep, assassinate Cersei with the dragon and end the war in a matter of minutes?
23. How did Euron find Jaime? What was his character motivation in trying to kill Jaime other than for writers to give him another Deus Ex Machina moment?
24. Was the Valonqar prophecy wrong?
25. What happened to the Prince That Was Promised prophecy?
26. Or the Azor Ahai prophecy?
27. Was Varys Dany's Third Betrayal? Was Tyrion her fourth? How many betrayals has she had anyway?
28. Were all of these nothing? Or will they come into play in the final episode?
29. Wouldn't it be far more satisfying to get revenge by killing Cersei personally rather than slaughtering a bunch of innocent people for no reason?
30. Why did The Undead Mountain look like a moldy, bloated Varys?
31. Who rang the bells?
32. Sup with Bran rn?
33. What are Sansa and Bran and Brienne and everyone doing back at Winterfell?
34. Does Arya's horse have some special significance? Or is it just a horse?
35. Will Dany just be queen of the ashes?
36. Why didn't Jon do anything at all in this battle or in trying to talk some sense into Dany? Or is he just so stupid and stubborn that he believed she was fine?
37. Is Dany still Jon's queen?
38. Why was Missandei's shackle literally her only possession? All these years of travel and she never picked up a book or keepsake? Did she have a change of clothes even?
39. Did the Mountain die, or is he just a well-done zombie now?
40. Where was Gendry?
41. Who took the time to light all those torches in the secret escape tunnels in the Red Keep?
4. Why was Cersei so sad that Jaime was hurt after she just sent an assassin to kill him?
43. Why did they put Davos in the front line of the battle? He old.
44. How did Cersei communicate a surrender to her peeps from all the way up in the tower?
45. Is the Iron Throne still standing or did it get destroyed with everything else?
46. Will Dragonstone be the new seat of power in Westeros?
47. Does this mean we now have to root for Jon to kill Dany?
48. Will Dany kill Tyrion now because he let Jaime escape? Does she even know he escaped? And why was it so easy for him to escape?
49. Why not make this season twice the number of episodes, scale back the massive, unnecessary production values and actually tell a story that fans deserve? Why not give Daenerys at least a few more episodes to show her descent into madness instead of flipping a switch on her?
50. Does this mean we have to wait however many years it takes George R.R. Martin to finish writing his damn books to get a worthwhile conclusion to this story?

I bet this person is some craic.

Wildweasel74

Tab clear, keep this up and I tell you the end before Sunday for pure badness. There's a warning for the spoilers on the thread after all

TabClear

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 15, 2019, 06:58:11 PM
Tab clear, keep this up and I tell you the end before Sunday for pure badness. There's a warning for the spoilers on the thread after all

Huh? The warning is that there are Spoilers in the thread? If you have any info on the ending get yourself down the bookies  ;) ;)

https://www.nme.com/news/tv/heres-what-betting-odds-are-predicting-for-the-game-of-thrones-finale-2488183

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 15, 2019, 06:58:11 PM
Tab clear, keep this up and I tell you the end before Sunday for pure badness. There's a warning for the spoilers on the thread after all

don't be a ****

BennyHarp

I'm surprised Bronn's role in the whole story has been so limited this season. Or maybe he has a role to play yet? Perhaps killing Tyrion if he somehow manages to be the hand to Daenerys (or possibly Jon) and goes back on his word regarding High Garden.
That was never a square ball!!

screenexile

Quote from: TabClear on May 15, 2019, 07:11:08 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 15, 2019, 06:58:11 PM
Tab clear, keep this up and I tell you the end before Sunday for pure badness. There's a warning for the spoilers on the thread after all

Huh? The warning is that there are Spoilers in the thread? If you have any info on the ending get yourself down the bookies  ;) ;)

https://www.nme.com/news/tv/heres-what-betting-odds-are-predicting-for-the-game-of-thrones-finale-2488183

f**king bookies are never too far wrong!!

Rois

We got up to watch it at 2am and have to say, it didn't keep me from falling asleep afterwards as I feared. Ending was actually fine by me, if rushed.