China Coronavirus

[armaghniac]

Cases in Derry have almost doubled  last week compared to previous week and almost one fifth of tests are positive.
Mid Ulster coming up fast, Newry and Mourne still increasing but not as quickly.

Kim Jong Un says not a single person in North Korea has contracted coronavirus, wishes South a fast recovery. 

Good honest man is Kim.

If they suspect a case they probably shoot the whole town.

We shouldn't mock. We put a guy who was up to his neck in cervical smear scandal in charge of our covid response and laud him as a hero.

That's not really fair comment. The legalistic approach of the State to such things isn't only down to one man, nor does the CMO oversee the operation of the HSE.

[RedHand88]

1012 new cases in the 26 counties today.

[armaghniac]

1012 new cases in the 26 counties today.

Sligo has done really well here, they had few cases before and although places not far away like north Roscommon, Donegal and Fermanagh have more cases, they are still very low.

[Blowitupref]

1012 new cases in the 26 counties today.

Back to weekly case count of late April.

Carlow, Leitrim, Mayo, Kilkenny, Longford, Offaly, Sligo, Westmeath, Tipperary, Waterford the counties with between 17 to 99 cases over the last two weeks.

[Capt Pat]

Back up to over 1000 cases what a disaster. The virus does not appear to be killing as many people this time around. Why is that? The old are not catchinng it as much in nursing homes? They are better at treating it? The virus has changed to a less lethal more contagious strain?

[macdanger2]

I know the virus was only officially detected on this island around the end of Feb but being realistic it was probably here in December or before, it has obviously been in existence in China months before it became apparent and its likely a domino effect to each new country it transmits to. By the time testing, tracing and knowledge of the virus, it's probably already embedded there for months

If you don't believe that it started in Wuhan in Dec, then why believe that it began in China at all? If it was around in Europe in say Nov, then there is currently no known origin

Because China was the first noted outbreak. If people are oblivious to it then the place where it first becomes apparent is likely the origin of it.

That theory makes no sense

It makes complete sense, how can you not get that?

The origin of the virus is the most likely place where it will spread and where large numbers will contract it and it first become noticed. There is probably a 2/3 month time lag (maybe longer) though in the virus being in the community and it not being recognised as something we have not seen before.

The virus was around a long time before December. It was recorded in France in December.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/french-hospital-discovers-it-had-case-of-coronavirus-in-december-1.4245275

Is this an actual theory or just something you've come up with yourself?

As I said, it makes no sense, if the virus started earlier than it's currently believed to then there's nothing to tie it to Wuhan or China. Other than your supposition that it "must have", there's no evidence of that. If what you're saying is true, then there wouldn't have been such a lag between the first cases discovered in China and the first cases discovered in Europe.

[sid waddell]

A lot of very vocal social media opinion seemed to be behind Leo Varadkar last Monday

I wonder if that's still the case

I suspect not

Populism doesn't work

[RedHand88]

Back up to over 1000 cases what a disaster. The virus does not appear to be killing as many people this time around. Why is that? The old are not catchinng it as much in nursing homes? They are better at treating it? The virus has changed to a less lethal more contagious strain?

Could be because there's alot more testing now than what there was in April. ie. We didn't really have 1000 daily cases in April, we had 5000 but they weren't picked up.

[armaghniac]

Back up to over 1000 cases what a disaster. The virus does not appear to be killing as many people this time around. Why is that? The old are not catchinng it as much in nursing homes? They are better at treating it? The virus has changed to a less lethal more contagious strain?

Could be because there's alot more testing now than what there was in April. ie. We didn't really have 1000 daily cases in April, we had 5000 but they weren't picked up.

This is true in the North, but only partly true in the South.
It seems that about 0.5% of people are dying, and so 5 will die in 3 weeks time after today's figures.
There are numerous stories of people going about spreading the thing while waiting for the results of tests ,which is grossly irresponsible.

[Rossfan]

Back up to over 1000 cases what a disaster.

900 cases in the 6 Counties, equivalent of about 2,300 cases in the 26.
Yet apart from Derry/Strabane it's full steam ahead in the rest of it.
Irresponsible or what?

[Milltown Row2]

Back up to over 1000 cases what a disaster.

900 cases in the 6 Counties, equivalent of about 2,300 cases in the 26.
Yet apart from Derry/Strabane it's full steam ahead in the rest of it.
Irresponsible or what?

It may seem full steam ahead but Belfast is quite deserted... no one wants to go into town

[JoG2]

Back up to over 1000 cases what a disaster. The virus does not appear to be killing as many people this time around. Why is that? The old are not catchinng it as much in nursing homes? They are better at treating it? The virus has changed to a less lethal more contagious strain?

Could be because there's alot more testing now than what there was in April. ie. We didn't really have 1000 daily cases in April, we had 5000 but they weren't picked up.

This is true in the North, but only partly true in the South.
It seems that about 0.5% of people are dying, and so 5 will die in 3 weeks time after today's figures.
There are numerous stories of people going about spreading the thing while waiting for the results of tests ,which is grossly irresponsible.

I've spoken with health professionals in the last week who have seen people in the North-West out and about who have recently tested positive. Some people just don't give a hoot.

[armaghniac]

People out and about is why fines are needed.

[seafoid]

Republic new infections higher than North's now.
Covid senior hurling

[marty34]

Republic new infections higher than North's now.
Covid senior hurling

Comparsions are silly - my da is bigger than your da type stuff.  Makes no difference. It is what it is.

It should have, and still should be based on an all island basis.  Like foot and foot a good few years ago.