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Show posts MenuQuote from: Rebel84 on Today at 08:20:11 PMQuote from: Itchy on Today at 06:01:21 PMQuote from: whitey on Today at 03:33:04 PMI seriously don't know what your question is
Are you saying that people (legal Irish Residents) of low moral character (with criminal convictions) shouldn't be allowed (on principal) to lead protests or are you saying that people (legal Irish citizens) of low moral character (with criminal convictions) should be legally prohibited from leading protests?
In some jurisdictions you can be prohibited by a court of law from associating with "known criminals" as part of a sentencing agreement. If that, or similar processes are in place in Ireland, then I would expect and demand that the Gardai fully enforce it
Let's start with my 1st Question...
Can you explain to me how you do "rigorous background checks" on someone fleeing a warzone.
What war are the Georgians fleeing from?
Quote from: whitey on Today at 03:33:04 PMI seriously don't know what your question is
Are you saying that people (legal Irish Residents) of low moral character (with criminal convictions) shouldn't be allowed (on principal) to lead protests or are you saying that people (legal Irish citizens) of low moral character (with criminal convictions) should be legally prohibited from leading protests?
In some jurisdictions you can be prohibited by a court of law from associating with "known criminals" as part of a sentencing agreement. If that, or similar processes are in place in Ireland, then I would expect and demand that the Gardai fully enforce it
Quote from: whitey on Today at 02:43:30 PMQuote from: Itchy on Today at 02:31:36 PMQuote from: whitey on Today at 10:57:41 AMQuote from: Itchy on Today at 09:44:26 AMQuote from: whitey on Today at 12:27:16 AMIt's not really that complicated
Enforce existing laws
Deport people whose claims are denied
Rigorous background checks on new arrivals
Set Welfare benefits in line with European averages (not double)
Can you explain to me how you do "rigorous background checks" on someone fleeing a warzone. Do you send a form to their local police station?
Also, do you think their should be rigourous checks on all sides. Would there be anything to be said for some checks on these far right goons? I mean if they were involved in local sports, foroige, community games etc then they'd already have been Garda vetted, but we know none of them do anything in their community. I'm all for rigorous checks on them so we can see who has criminal records, beats their wife and sells drugs etc. I'm sure you'd agree you wouldn't want those type of people heading up your racist protests
Great
So we're in agreement then. More rigorous checks on incoming applicants are a good thing.
So we don't end up with a shambolic situation like the one highlighted last week where a guy (convicted sex offender) denied asylum in 3 separate countries can get in having destroyed a fake Swedish passport
And he then took a (taxpayer funded) legal action against the government to avoid deportation
I asked you a question, you afraid to answer it
Your "question" makes absolutely no sense and is actually irrelevant as to whether rigorous background checks should be carried out on people seeking international protection (some of whom have no id)
So you're in agreement with me on these rigorous checks......thats fantastic!
If you want to start a separate thread about "legal Irish residents" who have criminal convictions, and what activities, they should and shouldnt be allowed to partake in go right ahead. There are laws already in place and I would think (and hope) they are being fully enforced. If theyre not....then they should be
Quote from: whitey on Today at 10:57:41 AMQuote from: Itchy on Today at 09:44:26 AMQuote from: whitey on Today at 12:27:16 AMIt's not really that complicated
Enforce existing laws
Deport people whose claims are denied
Rigorous background checks on new arrivals
Set Welfare benefits in line with European averages (not double)
Can you explain to me how you do "rigorous background checks" on someone fleeing a warzone. Do you send a form to their local police station?
Also, do you think their should be rigourous checks on all sides. Would there be anything to be said for some checks on these far right goons? I mean if they were involved in local sports, foroige, community games etc then they'd already have been Garda vetted, but we know none of them do anything in their community. I'm all for rigorous checks on them so we can see who has criminal records, beats their wife and sells drugs etc. I'm sure you'd agree you wouldn't want those type of people heading up your racist protests
Great
So we're in agreement then. More rigorous checks on incoming applicants are a good thing.
So we don't end up with a shambolic situation like the one highlighted last week where a guy (convicted sex offender) denied asylum in 3 separate countries can get in having destroyed a fake Swedish passport
And he then took a (taxpayer funded) legal action against the government to avoid deportation
Quote from: whitey on Today at 12:27:16 AMIt's not really that complicated
Enforce existing laws
Deport people whose claims are denied
Rigorous background checks on new arrivals
Set Welfare benefits in line with European averages (not double)
Quote from: Rebel84 on May 09, 2024, 08:41:02 PMQuote from: Horse Box on May 09, 2024, 04:27:13 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: Horse Box on May 08, 2024, 10:56:46 AMGot a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?
Same. No too chicken shit to go door to door and too easy for voters to figure out in 10 seconds that you're dealing with a total moron. Placed my leaflets in the recycle bin where they belong.
Good stuff , my one mixed in with the kindling . Under a month to go to the Elections and most of the main Parties have been around already , no Fash thankfully .
Anyone who says 'Fash' to label others usually has serious ties to Antifa.
Quote from: whitey on May 08, 2024, 06:15:29 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 05:57:47 PMQuote from: whitey on May 08, 2024, 05:00:31 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 04:44:24 PMQuote from: whitey on May 08, 2024, 12:28:30 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: Horse Box on May 08, 2024, 10:56:46 AMGot a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?
Same. No too chicken shit to go door to door and too easy for voters to figure out in 10 seconds that you're dealing with a total moron. Placed my leaflets in the recycle bin where they belong.
Speaking to total morons, what did you think of Helen McEntees performance last week when she was being grilled by McNamara?
The (non) answers given to very basic and simple questions regarding the enforcement of existing laws actually leads to people supporting these clown candidates who are runnjng
McEntee is out of her depth, I wont defend her. However, that doesn't mean a bunch of racist knuckle draggers are right in anything they say
They (the knuckle drafters) are 100% right when they say that current laws are not being enforced which is leading to a defacto open borders policy
They are also correct in saying that many people are not being adequately "vetted"
https://gript.ie/revealed-asylum-seekers-fingerprints-not-checked-against-criminal-databases/
https://www.newstalk.com/news/these-people-are-fingerprinted-biggest-myths-about-asylum-seekers-1631836
Read the two articles and see if you can figure out who's telling the truth
Gript?? Sure you might as well throw up a link to mein kampf when your at it. You've no idea about this country, not a clue.
If McEnter and Varadkar enforced the laws already on the books this would be a non issue
They only have themselves to blame
What I've learned over the years is that it doesn't matter if something is true or not. What matters is whether people believe something to be true
With the collapse in people's confidence in traditional media outlets sources like Gript play a very important role in keeping them honest
Quote from: whitey on May 08, 2024, 05:00:31 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 04:44:24 PMQuote from: whitey on May 08, 2024, 12:28:30 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: Horse Box on May 08, 2024, 10:56:46 AMGot a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?
Same. No too chicken shit to go door to door and too easy for voters to figure out in 10 seconds that you're dealing with a total moron. Placed my leaflets in the recycle bin where they belong.
Speaking to total morons, what did you think of Helen McEntees performance last week when she was being grilled by McNamara?
The (non) answers given to very basic and simple questions regarding the enforcement of existing laws actually leads to people supporting these clown candidates who are runnjng
McEntee is out of her depth, I wont defend her. However, that doesn't mean a bunch of racist knuckle draggers are right in anything they say
They (the knuckle drafters) are 100% right when they say that current laws are not being enforced which is leading to a defacto open borders policy
They are also correct in saying that many people are not being adequately "vetted"
https://gript.ie/revealed-asylum-seekers-fingerprints-not-checked-against-criminal-databases/
https://www.newstalk.com/news/these-people-are-fingerprinted-biggest-myths-about-asylum-seekers-1631836
Read the two articles and see if you can figure out who's telling the truth
Quote from: whitey on May 08, 2024, 12:28:30 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 08, 2024, 12:09:02 PMQuote from: Horse Box on May 08, 2024, 10:56:46 AMGot a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?
Same. No too chicken shit to go door to door and too easy for voters to figure out in 10 seconds that you're dealing with a total moron. Placed my leaflets in the recycle bin where they belong.
Speaking to total morons, what did you think of Helen McEntees performance last week when she was being grilled by McNamara?
The (non) answers given to very basic and simple questions regarding the enforcement of existing laws actually leads to people supporting these clown candidates who are runnjng
Quote from: Horse Box on May 08, 2024, 10:56:46 AMGot a leaflet in the Post this morning from one of the Fash EU Candidates . Is this all they are doing , are they actually going door to door ?