6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022

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Sportacus

DUP down to one seat in North Antrim is incredible. 

Armagh18

Quote from: Rossfan on May 07, 2022, 10:36:20 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 07, 2022, 09:25:54 AM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 06, 2022, 09:31:17 PM
Not a great day TBH.

Further polarisation and we're constantly moving further away from a UI with any kind of super-majority consensus.


Things keep going as they are and the Shinners will try and ram a border poll in first chance they get - without much thought as to what happens if it did go through 51/49.

How do we know they aren't thinking of what happens after? 'Cos they sure as f**k aren't laying any ground work right now.


[Now, to be fair, the unionist parties can't face that future and are sticking their heads in the ground with respect to the inevitable. Which doesn't help, but Sinn Fein's building of an economic case for a UI - to the public BOTH sides of the border - is utterly non existent.]
Then there is a UI as laid out in the GFA...
Not unless we in the 26 vote for it too.
Takes 2 to have a wedding.

To save me the trouble of going through Constituencies - has anyone the total 1st Prefs for Nationalist (SF, SDLP, Aontú, PBP) and Unionist (DUP  UUP, TUV, Easton, Sugden)
Could you imagine people in the 26 campaigning against a United Ireland if it was there for the taking?

The Subbie

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 07, 2022, 01:35:45 PM
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Quote from: marty34 on May 07, 2022, 09:39:29 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 07, 2022, 12:09:34 AM
It will be a sad inditement of this place if Nichola Mallon loses her seat

Why?

You blaming the voters?

What's her top 5 achievements during her tenure?

I think she was a good worker , yes I suppose I would find it odd to see why she would be voted out in the same way Id argue in favour of robin swann
https://www.infrastructure-ni.gov.uk/news/mallon-looks-back-two-years-infrastructure-minister

So she picked up and rubber stamped an already developed list of priority infrastructure projects
If that's it that's a wee bit underwhelming to be honest

Did she initiate any new procurement processes in tendering ?
Did she parcel up delivery of multiple projects into delivery programmes to provide longevity of work & value to the taxpayer
The list of "achievements " you attribute to her were defined as projects , scoped up as projects & developed as projects by others
She's come in at the final 1/2 lap & press releases them for the kudos - which isn't what I originally asked
What can you legitimately point at as a "pure bred" achievement of her time in that portfolio or what has she , solely , delivered for her constituents ? Stand alone , tangible , real & positive examples , I'm curious

She was of course picking up after 3 years of no infrastructure development at all because SF/DUP sat on their holes. Where is this irish language act which caused us so much pain.  Btw gone you list what the rest have done

I have a healthy enough cynicism for politicians and their achievements but you are the person telling anyone who will listen that the assembly will be the poorer place without Mallon , you still haven't said why that is .
Like I said , I'm genuinely curious why you would say that
If you can't substantiate what you are saying that's fair enough
Maybe the electorate of North Belfast know more than you do .........

I did say in my last post, you just didn't like it, sorry I can't say no more.

Not really a like / dislike situation here fear
You made a statement & couldn't back it up with any facts
It happens

I sent you a link . You double click on these things, get one of your wains to show you

That propaganda / press release you posted there a while ago ? 🤣🤣🤣

You couldn't point to a single thing that Mallon has done that backs up why her absence is so horrific!
Not one
Pathetic attempt there fear. I thought you could at least get one or two things that would demonstrate Mallon's positive influence , you couldn't even manage one
Well done . A true titan of discussion indeed ........




Armagh18

Quote from: pbat on May 07, 2022, 10:39:35 AM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 07, 2022, 09:56:42 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 07, 2022, 09:42:40 AM
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Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on May 06, 2022, 11:20:59 PM
Pretty much all of this is bollix.
"Straight back to the troubles". Wise yourself up.

When buses are burned and there is violence on the streets over an EU protocol that most of those on the streets couldn't tell you two accurate sentences about - you actually expect a marginal border to pass off without incident?

Have you took leave of your senses?!?
Realistically the loyalists did f**k all during the troubles without British weapons, intelligence and a police force that either openly helped or turned a blind eye. Would they get that again?

That is a fair point - could they operate without that?

But if they have a sizeable support base (5-10% NoI population would be enough) then after the initial riots settle, they'd likely be able to cause ongoing sporadic trouble (which would still be fatal for those on the end of it obviously).

They already have the weapons. They're now well set up as drug dealing thugs so would know were to procure more ammo.


*how much money toward "community groups" ends up in the hands of paramilitaries? I'd be confident its a pretty significant amount.

They will be in the same position as dissent republicans are now, small hardcore support in some areas but will be infiltrated by the spooks and not fit to raise much of a stir. Unfortunately like Lyra Mc Kee there may be one or two  people killed but nothing sustained.
Realistically we can't be letting a few hundred gobshites like that hold the thing back. On either side

marty34

Quote from: pbat on May 07, 2022, 01:43:34 PM
Mervyn Storey - TUV screwed him over by not transferring. Hilarious

Yeah, transfers have such a big impact.

Hard to believe wee Jim will have nobody else in with him. A lot of votes, protest votes but nobody transferring to them and they themselves don't transfer to the DUP.

Ironic alright.

seafoid

Quote from: Armagh18 on May 07, 2022, 02:01:33 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 07, 2022, 10:36:20 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 07, 2022, 09:25:54 AM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 06, 2022, 09:31:17 PM
Not a great day TBH.

Further polarisation and we're constantly moving further away from a UI with any kind of super-majority consensus.


Things keep going as they are and the Shinners will try and ram a border poll in first chance they get - without much thought as to what happens if it did go through 51/49.

How do we know they aren't thinking of what happens after? 'Cos they sure as f**k aren't laying any ground work right now.


[Now, to be fair, the unionist parties can't face that future and are sticking their heads in the ground with respect to the inevitable. Which doesn't help, but Sinn Fein's building of an economic case for a UI - to the public BOTH sides of the border - is utterly non existent.]
Then there is a UI as laid out in the GFA...
Not unless we in the 26 vote for it too.
Takes 2 to have a wedding.

To save me the trouble of going through Constituencies - has anyone the total 1st Prefs for Nationalist (SF, SDLP, Aontú, PBP) and Unionist (DUP  UUP, TUV, Easton, Sugden)
Could you imagine people in the 26 campaigning against a United Ireland if it was there for the taking?
It isn't there for the taking. It has to be planned and it hasn't been

Itchy

Quote from: seafoid on May 07, 2022, 02:09:46 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 07, 2022, 02:01:33 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 07, 2022, 10:36:20 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 07, 2022, 09:25:54 AM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 06, 2022, 09:31:17 PM
Not a great day TBH.

Further polarisation and we're constantly moving further away from a UI with any kind of super-majority consensus.


Things keep going as they are and the Shinners will try and ram a border poll in first chance they get - without much thought as to what happens if it did go through 51/49.

How do we know they aren't thinking of what happens after? 'Cos they sure as f**k aren't laying any ground work right now.


[Now, to be fair, the unionist parties can't face that future and are sticking their heads in the ground with respect to the inevitable. Which doesn't help, but Sinn Fein's building of an economic case for a UI - to the public BOTH sides of the border - is utterly non existent.]
Then there is a UI as laid out in the GFA...
Not unless we in the 26 vote for it too.
Takes 2 to have a wedding.

To save me the trouble of going through Constituencies - has anyone the total 1st Prefs for Nationalist (SF, SDLP, Aontú, PBP) and Unionist (DUP  UUP, TUV, Easton, Sugden)
Could you imagine people in the 26 campaigning against a United Ireland if it was there for the taking?
It isn't there for the taking. It has to be planned and it hasn't been

Hasn't been planned YET by FF, FG, Labour etc despite SF pleas to get it up and running.


trileacman

Is there a page showing seats lost/gained? BBC NI who usually do Stirling work have a very poor results page on their website. Even RTÉ is better.
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Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

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Quote from: The Subbie on May 07, 2022, 02:01:41 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 07, 2022, 01:35:45 PM
Quote from: The Subbie on May 07, 2022, 01:27:08 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 07, 2022, 01:00:12 PM
Quote from: The Subbie on May 07, 2022, 12:49:18 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 07, 2022, 12:24:40 PM
Quote from: The Subbie on May 07, 2022, 11:07:02 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 07, 2022, 10:41:49 AM
Quote from: The Subbie on May 07, 2022, 10:38:21 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 07, 2022, 10:04:45 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 07, 2022, 09:39:29 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on May 07, 2022, 12:09:34 AM
It will be a sad inditement of this place if Nichola Mallon loses her seat

Why?

You blaming the voters?

What's her top 5 achievements during her tenure?

I think she was a good worker , yes I suppose I would find it odd to see why she would be voted out in the same way Id argue in favour of robin swann
https://www.infrastructure-ni.gov.uk/news/mallon-looks-back-two-years-infrastructure-minister

So she picked up and rubber stamped an already developed list of priority infrastructure projects
If that's it that's a wee bit underwhelming to be honest

Did she initiate any new procurement processes in tendering ?
Did she parcel up delivery of multiple projects into delivery programmes to provide longevity of work & value to the taxpayer
The list of "achievements " you attribute to her were defined as projects , scoped up as projects & developed as projects by others
She's come in at the final 1/2 lap & press releases them for the kudos - which isn't what I originally asked
What can you legitimately point at as a "pure bred" achievement of her time in that portfolio or what has she , solely , delivered for her constituents ? Stand alone , tangible , real & positive examples , I'm curious

She was of course picking up after 3 years of no infrastructure development at all because SF/DUP sat on their holes. Where is this irish language act which caused us so much pain.  Btw gone you list what the rest have done

I have a healthy enough cynicism for politicians and their achievements but you are the person telling anyone who will listen that the assembly will be the poorer place without Mallon , you still haven't said why that is .
Like I said , I'm genuinely curious why you would say that
If you can't substantiate what you are saying that's fair enough
Maybe the electorate of North Belfast know more than you do .........

I did say in my last post, you just didn't like it, sorry I can't say no more.

Not really a like / dislike situation here fear
You made a statement & couldn't back it up with any facts
It happens

I sent you a link . You double click on these things, get one of your wains to show you

That propaganda / press release you posted there a while ago ? 🤣🤣🤣

You couldn't point to a single thing that Mallon has done that backs up why her absence is so horrific!
Not one
Pathetic attempt there fear. I thought you could at least get one or two things that would demonstrate Mallon's positive influence , you couldn't even manage one
Well done . A true titan of discussion indeed ........

She didn't write it , have you bothered to read it.

Nanderson

Quote from: trileacman on May 07, 2022, 02:28:06 PM
Is there a page showing seats lost/gained? BBC NI who usually do Stirling work have a very poor results page on their website. Even RTÉ is better.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/northern_ireland that link shows seats gained/lost at the top but doesnt show where the seats were won/lost

seafoid

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2022, 10:24:07 AM
Yeah seafoid actually thought Newtownards was full of money! It's actually a shithole
So is most of Belfast. It's all relative

seafoid

Quote from: Itchy on May 07, 2022, 02:21:48 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 07, 2022, 02:09:46 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 07, 2022, 02:01:33 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 07, 2022, 10:36:20 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 07, 2022, 09:25:54 AM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 06, 2022, 09:31:17 PM
Not a great day TBH.

Further polarisation and we're constantly moving further away from a UI with any kind of super-majority consensus.


Things keep going as they are and the Shinners will try and ram a border poll in first chance they get - without much thought as to what happens if it did go through 51/49.

How do we know they aren't thinking of what happens after? 'Cos they sure as f**k aren't laying any ground work right now.


[Now, to be fair, the unionist parties can't face that future and are sticking their heads in the ground with respect to the inevitable. Which doesn't help, but Sinn Fein's building of an economic case for a UI - to the public BOTH sides of the border - is utterly non existent.]
Then there is a UI as laid out in the GFA...
Not unless we in the 26 vote for it too.
Takes 2 to have a wedding.

To save me the trouble of going through Constituencies - has anyone the total 1st Prefs for Nationalist (SF, SDLP, Aontú, PBP) and Unionist (DUP  UUP, TUV, Easton, Sugden)
Could you imagine people in the 26 campaigning against a United Ireland if it was there for the taking?
It isn't there for the taking. It has to be planned and it hasn't been

Hasn't been planned YET by FF, FG, Labour etc despite SF pleas to get it up and running.
It's less popular in the south than the Tailteann Cup

Armagh18

Quote from: Itchy on May 07, 2022, 11:06:06 AM
Here's a question one for ye, Alliance now more a nationalist based party than unionist?
i would say so yes.

Rossfan

By my reckoning
SF +SDLP + Aontú+PBP = 351,200.
DUPUDA +UUP +TUVUDA = 346,180.
Alliance 116,681
Greens 16,433
Independents (2 Unionist?) 25,315
Others 6,894.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: Armagh18 on May 07, 2022, 02:47:04 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 07, 2022, 11:06:06 AM
Here's a question one for ye, Alliance now more a nationalist based party than unionist?
i would say so yes.

But they are not "nationalist based". They are happy to remain within the Union