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No Oisin Mullin and Eoghan McLaughlin and as expected no Cillian O'Connor

back to the football....

Cahair O'Kane
@CahairOKane1
Mayo team #GAA
1. Rob Hennelly
2. Padraig O'Hora
3. Lee Keegan
4. Michael Plunkett
5. Paddy Durcan
6. Stephen Coen
7. Enda Hession
8. Matthew Ruane
9. Conor Loftus
10. Diarmuid O'Connor
11. Aidan O'Shea
12. Bryan Walsh
13. Kevin McLoughlin
14. Tommy Conroy
15. Ryan O'Donoghue

Will Morgan have one of his awful days or will he keep the head and be awesome?

I'm puzzled over why Tyrone people are so hard on Niall Morgan. Can you give us some examples of these awful days you mention? I don't remember him having any particular disasters. If anything, I'd have thought of him as one of the elite inter-county goalkeepers currently playing. Am I nuts, or what? What am I missing?

Vital free missing is the only real issue with him. He can be erratic with kickouts but I think he mostly puts them in a good area. Games against Kerry, Mayo and Donegal have all been lost in recent years when he's had a bad day from the 45 yard mark off the ground.

That being said I wouldn't want anyone else in his place and he is an elite keeper.

Maybe the key is to get a 5 point lead and not 4 points lol.

[If Tyrone should go 7 points in front, Mayo can kiss goodbye to Sam for yet another year.]

Maybe it's time to get a little bit serious here.....

I hope we have a great game and that, one way or the other, we'll have a clear cut winner.
Obviously, I'm hoping that Mayoo will prevail but neither team can afford to get cocky bases on their Given what's been said and written, both teams beat their respective opponents off the field and they played with class, determination knocking their opponents about like skittles.
But a little bit of adverse luck here and there and both results could have been very different..
Mayo were blessed that Robbie Henelly goe the proverbial second bite of the cherry and brought the game to extra time. If we lost at that stage, we'd have only ourselves to blame. If Tyrone should go 7 points in front, Mayo can kiss goodbye to Sam for yet another year.
My one fear is that Mayo will do what Mayo are very inclined to do and that is to fade out of the game at times.
Just hope they won't do this next Saturday!
Tyrone?
They got a rub of the green, like Mayo. Kerry stayed with them right to the very end and literally there was only a kick of the ball between them. If Stephen O'Brien didn't act the fool, Kerry would have gotten a goal and I couldn't see Tyrone coming back after that.
David Clifford's cramp came  at the right time for Tyrone. If he had played to the end,  feel Mayo could very well be facing Kerry on Saturday.
In short, both teams rode their luck in their respective semis. Both sides can't be lucky in the same game so let the best team win.

I keep seeing this being posted and mentioned by pundits and it's a really strange one given our actual history of holding on to leads against good sides.

2021 AISF Vs Kerry - 5 points up and scraped over the line by 1
2020 Ulster Vs Donegal - 4 points up at first water break and lost by 2
2019 AISF Vs Kerry - 4 points up at half time and lost by 3
2018 AIF Vs Dublin - 4 points up at the start and lost by 6


That's the last 3 times we've been put out of the championship prior to this year. We've had 4/5 point leads in all those games and blew them. Tyrone do not defend leads well against top teams regardless of the narrative. We've gone back into a shell of defending deep, we'll get black and red cards and give away a heap of frees. Hopefully those lessons will finally be learnt.

That Larry in the match thread is come craic lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB3j5ZQKZf4

Mugsy and Alan Brogan. Decent chat about the game.

[wouldn't be able to match the intensity they brought to the Kerry game.]

Cootehill Cavan?

Yes. Niall Moyna on TV  tonight has predicted Mayo to win because he thinks Mayos hunger will be greater and Tyrone wouldn't be able to match the intensity they brought to the Kerry game.

That line of thinking is just so stupid to me.

Team A has done something before so there's no way they can the very same thing again. Idiotic imo.

Cootehill having the craic.

Cootehill Cavan?

Ah who gives a monkeys it's a bitta craic.

FFS if you listen to the podcast I just heard with Brian mcguigan you'd be saying that was pure arrogance too.

Any decent podcasts or listen back episodes out for the final yet?? I was hoping we'd have a few yesterday but the ones I usually listen to seem to have all be about the ladies final day

the mayo news one is usually very good unless that bore Ginnigan is on it .
but the mayo news team them selves are excellent , Mcgreal ,Finnerty Flanagan Rob murphy and lately BJP as a Presenter . with top class contributors . They are pretty fair to all even allowing for natural Bias

I actually listened to the latest one last night there with Stephen Rochford and BJP. Decent listen even if it did come with the usual few hyperbolic statements about Tyrone play.

Funny the Mayo News Pod probably gives Tyrone more credit and actually analysed the Tyrone players individually better than most of the apparent neutral MSN pods who have pretty much only talked about how kerry lost the game since last week.

Listened to OTB and The GAA Hour... If you didn't know the score you'd swear Tyrone had wiped the floor with Kerry.

Hugely critical of Kerry, but at least the ones in the immediate aftermath of the game barely mentioned Tyrone.

Any decent podcasts or listen back episodes out for the final yet?? I was hoping we'd have a few yesterday but the ones I usually listen to seem to have all be about the ladies final day

the mayo news one is usually very good unless that bore Ginnigan is on it .
but the mayo news team them selves are excellent , Mcgreal ,Finnerty Flanagan Rob murphy and lately BJP as a Presenter . with top class contributors . They are pretty fair to all even allowing for natural Bias

I actually listened to the latest one last night there with Stephen Rochford and BJP. Decent listen even if it did come with the usual few hyperbolic statements about Tyrone play.

Funny the Mayo News Pod probably gives Tyrone more credit and actually analysed the Tyrone players individually better than most of the apparent neutral MSN pods who have pretty much only talked about how kerry lost the game since last week.

[No player in the country probably deserves a medal more]

Is CoC being parachuted into the team unfit to make an appearance in the last few minutes if Mayo are up just so he can get his hands on a medal? No way he could be back from an achilles Tendon in 2 and a half months.

I'm only guessing but that would be incredible from the management to use a bench space like that. No player in the country probably deserves a medal more but when you have only 11 subs and a really good chance of using a lot of them if it goes to extra time.

Surely this has to be nonsense.

Ahh would ye put a sock in it, Pete Harte is twice the player

The man couldn't even kick a ball through a tyre from point blank range

Some Mayonnaise lads expect a medal just for getting out of bed in the morning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtcy-WgTWbI

And again, I'm from Tyrone lol

Is CoC being parachuted into the team unfit to make an appearance in the last few minutes if Mayo are up just so he can get his hands on a medal? No way he could be back from an achilles Tendon in 2 and a half months.

I'm only guessing but that would be incredible from the management to use a bench space like that. No player in the country probably deserves a medal more but when you have only 11 subs and a really good chance of using a lot of them if it goes to extra time.

Surely this has to be nonsense.

It's the angle he came in at(coming from front) , made no attempt to play the ball and Harte's body was open as he was reaching for the ball. Shoulder to shoulder does not trump dangerous play. Depending on ref could be yellow or straight red so he was a lucky boy. Nobody wants to see this type of tackle and I would not complain if a Tyrone player was sent off for this.

I made and deleted a post there because I had a video of the play and explained how I thought it was a cert foul too. However I then looked at the rules and quickly deleted my post

My assumption was that it was a foul because Harte wasn't in possession of the ball, however all the rules say about a shoulder is....

1.9   Provided that he has at least one foot on the ground, a player may make a shoulder to shoulder charge on an opponent- 

(a) who is in possession of the ball,

or

(b) who is playing the ball,

or 

(c)  when both players are moving in the direction of the ball to play it


Harte didn't have the ball. He never had the ball, he touched it but wasn't in possession and the contact was after Harte had played it so situation (a) didn't exist. Situation (b) is questionable and could be argued either way, Harte attempted to play the ball, it slipped through his fingers and was hit moments later. I'd say under that stipulation it was a fair hit. However it was certainly a fair hit under stipulation (c) as both players were still moving towards the ball.

The only remaining questions are;

1) was it shoulder to shoulder and it clearly was.
2) Was TC's foot on the ground? It was.

The challenge is 45 seconds into this vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV0t36dyEBk&t=49s

Now whether the GAA should allow such a challenge is a different proposition but I think they should. It's a manly game and if you can't hit a man fair and square on the shoulder and buckle him then what are we at??