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#31
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 13, 2024, 11:06:52 AM
Quote from: Johnnysboys on February 12, 2024, 10:40:18 PMDespite the Red High - St Colmans and Abbey are massively underachieving in A grade football. 11 years without winning a title on the field of play and almost 20 years for Abbey.
Every school in every area can't be complaining they are not getting quality players. St Joes and St Marks have won a few lesser titles in recent times - maybe it comes down to coaching?? Do we need more coaching officer roles in the county to visit the schools?? What are St Louis at? Since their school amalgamation they have gone backwards.. Let's hope that doesn't happen in Downpatrick..

Without a doubt, our coaches need to be working with our secondary school football teams.The new school in Downpatrick first on the list.
#32
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 12, 2024, 11:18:26 AM
The Red High should be playing at a higher level with the pick they have
#33
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 09, 2024, 01:29:52 PM
Quote from: Johnnysboys on February 08, 2024, 08:35:13 PMI'm a bit lost here with all this... what have the LGFA done???

What I have heard is that the camogie and LGFA boards got together to decide when to schedule games. After a deal was reached, the county ladies' secretary reneged and sent out fixtures that were all over the place. The LGFA were forced to revert to their previous timeslots due to the outcry it provoked.
#34
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 08, 2024, 05:09:17 PM
Quote from: manwithnoplan on February 08, 2024, 04:32:00 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 08, 2024, 02:49:03 PM
Quote from: manwithnoplan on February 08, 2024, 12:55:59 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 08, 2024, 11:59:24 AM
Quote from: manwithnoplan on February 08, 2024, 11:32:49 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on February 08, 2024, 10:55:00 AMI've heard that the LGFA sent out a fixture plan without consultation with other codes which has sparked criticism. Is it just me, or does the LGFA enjoy arguments and making strange decisions?

Did the county board consult with the LGFA prior to announcing the dates for the ACFL/ACHL and championships this year?

Open communications should always be practiced.

But let's be realistic here. One association owns about 95% of Gaelic Games fields in Down. The other owns 0%.

There is a remarkably different onus on the group with 0% to consult with others before publishing any fixtures.

To think otherwise is wanton and unhelpful mucksavagery.


Quite the hyperbole there. Hopefully the LGFA in future remember to get the go ahead from the county board before organising their own games, can't be allowed to potentially impact the attendances and gate receipts of the vastly more important men's games.

The bit about LGFA not owning any facilities to host their games, it just seems to fly over your head.

The bit about clubs working together internally to develop plans on use of their facilities seems to fly over your head. Perhaps your club is divided in this regard.

Equal time on pitches is something I support wholeheartedly, but the Ladies Association's attitude towards other codes is shocking. It's even worse than Hurling snobs.
#35
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 08, 2024, 02:08:38 PM
That attitude will get you a job on the ladies' county executive. There are dual players, pitch issues, and referees to sort. It's very easy to talk. Very easy. Some people enjoy getting into arguments.
#36
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 08, 2024, 10:55:00 AM
I've heard that the LGFA sent out a fixture plan without consultation with other codes which has sparked criticism. Is it just me, or does the LGFA enjoy arguments and making strange decisions?
#37
"So the lads are coming to the pub, sitting at the bar counter with their 0.0 alcohol bottle perched in front of them off their face on cocaine.

"That's what they're doing because you can't be seen to be drinking in the GAA anymore".
#38
he cocaine problem in the GAA is now 'in every corner of Ireland', a Clare referee has said.

Pat Byrne-O'Connell said players have turned to the drug after being told not to drink alcohol.

He told Lunchtime Live he believes the problem is in every club across the country, and that it is one of the GAA's own making



"Massive," he said. "Out of control - and it's in every club in every county in every corner of Ireland."

"Anyone that thinks it's not is totally lost and blind.

"It's out of control and it's the GAA's own fault; they've created this monster by introducing what's called the alcohol ban.

"All these coaches coming in who know little or nothing about the social life of young people banning alcohol.

"So the lads are coming to the pub, sitting at the bar counter with their 0.0 alcohol bottle perched in front of them off their face on cocaine.

"That's what they're doing because you can't be seen to be drinking in the GAA anymore".

'Either blind or stupid'
Mr Byrne-O'Connell said there is "no difference" between the problem at club and county level.

"It's the same players, you're talking [about] the same players," he said.

"They're young fellas, they're social fellas, they're out with their friends at the weekends and that's what they're doing.

"Anyone that says it's not happening is either blind or stupid, and I don't think there's many stupid people involved in the GAA.

"They've turned their back on it because it's the easy way out".

rural drug useA man divides lines of cocaine. Image: Riccardo Ceccherini / Alamy
Mr Byrne-O'Connell, who has been working in the pub industry for 20 years, said he has seen the changes.

"I have lads coming in from training and coming in from matches [saying], 'Pat give me €100 cashback'," he said.

"They go down straight to their 'friend', get their €100, hand it over, into the toilet and come up to the bar counter [for] a 0.0.

"That's what they're doing in every club in the county, and not one club can say that it's not happening because it is".

'Easier to get drugs than drink'
Mr Byrne-O'Connell said he believes the level of drug-taking is "easily" over 50% of players.

"I would say one-in-two players in every club is taking cocaine on a weekly basis.

"It's every pub, it's every house party, it's everywhere.

"If you went down and did a drug test at a GAA match every weekend, you would capture at least one fella with cocaine in his system.

"It's easier to get drugs than drink," he added.

Mr Byrne-O'Connell believes testing will not happen because it is an amateur sport.
#39
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
February 02, 2024, 10:19:45 AM
John Devine is in as senior football goalkeeping coach.
#40
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
January 25, 2024, 03:31:34 PM
Quote from: Targetman on January 25, 2024, 01:37:32 PM
Quote from: downtothecore on January 24, 2024, 08:41:52 PMI would guess the football manager would have wanted a commitment from the team to fully focus on football so that liatriom could best realise their potential in the higher league and senior championship but they also have a strong hurling team with a potential to win something.....
More or less, had a meeting with the hurling manager who apparently was quite accommodating but he wasn't happy with the outcome so he walked.

I heard that a few dual players were not committing to football.
#41
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
January 24, 2024, 12:53:01 PM
 J O'Hare; P Fegan, R McEvoy, F McElroy; D Guinness, A Docherty, P Laverty ; O Murdock , J Flynn; G McKibben, L Kerr , J Guinness; R Mason, P Havern , O Savage

#42
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
January 24, 2024, 10:26:31 AM
Are there any injuries for this week's game in Aughrim?
#43
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
January 22, 2024, 02:30:56 PM
Areas that could be targeted are Newcastle and Downpatrick. Is there a hurling GPO?
#44
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
January 22, 2024, 12:14:37 PM
Quote from: DuffGael on January 22, 2024, 11:12:04 AMThe only way to improve hurling in Down is to get more clubs playing, we punch way above where we should and produce hurlers of real quality but just dont have the critical mass to be a top tier team. Some of the bigger football only clubs should start hurling.


Could it be that larger football teams would not be affiliated with a hurling club? Would the young men from Kilcoo not play for Liatroim? Kilcoo had a few talented players in the 80s.
#45
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
January 22, 2024, 09:18:01 AM
Quote from: Splash on January 22, 2024, 02:07:29 AMDisappointing defeat to Kildare for the hurlers yesterday in the Kehoe Cup. No pre-season silverware this year.

Close enough game in the end. Ultimately you have to be happy enough with the pre-season. Beat Meath, and have the potential to beat Kildare. At the end of the day, when we play these teams later in the year, they will be, in all likelihood, must-win games to avoid relegation in the league and championship, let alone gain promotion. Hopefully we finish this preseason off well with a good performance over Wicklow in the next round.

Have to say, Kildare's Hurling Action Plan has been quite remarkable over the past few years, and would be great to see us implement something similar in Down.

How would you improve hurling in the county?