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Seemingly this is the only permitted descriptor for the 6 county economy
Seemingly this is the only permitted descriptor for the 6 county economy
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Show posts MenuQuote from: armaghniac on March 29, 2024, 04:15:54 PMQuote from: JoG2 on March 29, 2024, 12:58:44 PMQuote from: armaghniac on March 29, 2024, 12:47:34 PMQuote from: JoG2 on March 29, 2024, 12:11:28 PMQuote from: armaghniac on March 28, 2024, 12:41:23 PMQuote from: lurganblue on March 12, 2024, 01:48:36 PMThere are no shortages of jobs going at the minute. At least it curtails the "them foreigners coming over here and taking all our jobs" rhetoric/excuse.
they can have our jobs, it is the houses they take that are the problem
Have 'they' taken your job or your house or a house from anyone you know ? Genuine question
It is simple logic that if you allow in more immigrants than you build houses then you somebody is going to have problems getting a house. I'm quite comfortable and am not one of those people. In general, this debate seems to be unable to distinguish between the aggregate effect and situations of individuals.
So you're worried for others (us Irish with the great bloodline that will hopefully never get diluted by the bad foreigner's bloodline).. Helping out other folk who need our help isn't the issue, they are not your enemy. Why not worry and look out for those less fortunate than us?
The real enemy here looks very like you and me, not the unfortunate on the boats, not trans etc...
I am not in the least worried about the bloodline, and nothing that I said indicated that I was, so you are making it up. I also did not say that we should not help the less fortunate. The people who come here are not the most deserving, the most deserving are stuck in some camp and do not have tens of thousands of Euro to pay people smugglers, those who cannot come are those that we should help, not the chancers who lie their way across the world.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 28, 2024, 04:00:09 PMWhat are "woke NGOs"?
Why is wanting fairness, equality, human dignity, a fair wage, etc treated as an insult?
The billionelaires have done their brainwashing well.
By the way most of the monet spent on IPA people and Ukrainians is going into the hands of Irish property owners, food businesses etc.
In other words circulating in the Irish Economy.
I wonder who the ex blueshirts in Mayo are going to vote for?
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 28, 2024, 12:25:37 PMThe number of licenses in Belfast hasn't went up in year (I've been led to believe). New bars just come in at the expense of old ones. Not sure on where restaurants fit - but there do seem an awful lot more. I do wonder is that a factor at all.
Quote from: general_lee on March 27, 2024, 10:26:12 PMQuote from: Tony Baloney on March 27, 2024, 01:53:24 PMThey'll be heavily backed by whatever group they're owned by so not as much risk attached, compare thatQuote from: general_lee on March 27, 2024, 12:11:01 PMSo why is a pint in Belfast £6+?I was in Belfast over the weekend and plenty of hoardings up around construction sites for new "coming soon" bars, restaurants etc. You'd think Belfast is a saturated market but business owners must think there is profit to be made from the tourist sector in particular.
Is it solely because of some imaginary cabal price gouging (see Beannchor) or is there actually more to it?
Belfast city centre pubs pay 20% VAT, in Dublin it's 13.5% (was 9%). UKGov refuses to reduce VAT for hospitality & tourism.
There is no rates relief in Belfast city centre (or NI) for hospitality businesses that is available elsewhere in the UK. So when the council raise their non-domestic rates, pubs and restaurants here get slaughtered.
Despite handsome profits last year, Diageo have announced their latest price increase - this is the one that makes the news but other breweries and suppliers have also put their prices up in the past 12 months.
Many Belfast city centre pubs employ people on minimum wage. When that goes up next month, they will be paying their bar staff more. They then have to pay supervisors, managers etc more as well. If they hire external contractors such as a cleaning company, that bill will also increase.
Wetherspoons, despite being a messy, under-staffed, McDonald's that serves alcohol and cheap, nasty food, has still increased prices twice in the last 6 months. The industry is fucked.Quote from: Franko on March 27, 2024, 04:14:14 PMBeannchor are the cabal. They can set prices to whatever they want in their establishments and people will pay it. A few others often follow suit but that's a lot different to saying the Downeys, Conlons etc are all in on it.Quote from: general_lee on March 27, 2024, 12:11:01 PMSo why is a pint in Belfast £6+?
Is it solely because of some imaginary cabal price gouging (see Beannchor) or is there actually more to it?
Belfast city centre pubs pay 20% VAT, in Dublin it's 13.5% (was 9%). UKGov refuses to reduce VAT for hospitality & tourism.
There is no rates relief in Belfast city centre (or NI) for hospitality businesses that is available elsewhere in the UK. So when the council raise their non-domestic rates, pubs and restaurants here get slaughtered.
Despite handsome profits last year, Diageo have announced their latest price increase - this is the one that makes the news but other breweries and suppliers have also put their prices up in the past 12 months.
Many Belfast city centre pubs employ people on minimum wage. When that goes up next month, they will be paying their bar staff more. They then have to pay supervisors, managers etc more as well. If they hire external contractors such as a cleaning company, that bill will also increase.
Wetherspoons, despite being a messy, under-staffed, McDonald's that serves alcohol and cheap, nasty food, has still increased prices twice in the last 6 months. The industry is fucked.
Bollocks
As someone pointed out, Beannchor Group posted a 5m (net... I repeat net) profit after tax on a 28m turnover in 2022.
They are printing money
And wanting an already underfunded BCC to put the cherry on top
Quote from: general_lee on March 27, 2024, 12:11:01 PMSo why is a pint in Belfast £6+?
Is it solely because of some imaginary cabal price gouging (see Beannchor) or is there actually more to it?
Belfast city centre pubs pay 20% VAT, in Dublin it's 13.5% (was 9%). UKGov refuses to reduce VAT for hospitality & tourism.
There is no rates relief in Belfast city centre (or NI) for hospitality businesses that is available elsewhere in the UK. So when the council raise their non-domestic rates, pubs and restaurants here get slaughtered.
Despite handsome profits last year, Diageo have announced their latest price increase - this is the one that makes the news but other breweries and suppliers have also put their prices up in the past 12 months.
Many Belfast city centre pubs employ people on minimum wage. When that goes up next month, they will be paying their bar staff more. They then have to pay supervisors, managers etc more as well. If they hire external contractors such as a cleaning company, that bill will also increase.
Wetherspoons, despite being a messy, under-staffed, McDonald's that serves alcohol and cheap, nasty food, has still increased prices twice in the last 6 months. The industry is fucked.
Quote from: thewobbler on March 27, 2024, 11:15:01 AMQuote from: Tony Baloney on March 27, 2024, 10:31:23 AMQuote from: toby47 on March 27, 2024, 09:06:54 AMSo a 7 quid pint has a fiver going to the publican - 440 for a keg. Obviously that doesn't take into account the many overheads a business owner has, but it's mad that small places operating at low volumes can charge much less and still keep going.Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on March 26, 2024, 07:33:32 PMWhat are pubs paying Diageo per pint nowadays? Couldn't be much over £2?
Yeah nearly £2 on the button.
The traditional pub model was a ratio of 3:1 on purchases i.e if a drink sold at £3, roughly £1 was for the wholesaler, £1 was for cost of business (staff, heat, light, insurance, tv, etc), and £1 was profit/loan repayments/reinvestment.
Diageo (and other brewers) have made this model unsustainable in recent years, as bars attempting to charge £6 for a pint when the same core product is available in off sales for around £1, should put themselves out of business.
When I say should, Belfast city centre's pub scene is effectively a cartel and they got together during Covid to agree minimum pricing i.e. a return to 3:1 ratios on pints.
Which as a move I suppose I'd support in general, except those shower of profiteering c***ts are now using a baseline 3:1, and are charging upwards on 8:1 ratios for mixed drinks and "premium" bottled beers.
Then they appear in the press every few weeks claiming poverty.
No harm to any of them. If they're converting £12 bottles of Smirnoff into £120 cash on repeat, and still claiming poverty, then they're on the take.
Quote from: gallsman on March 27, 2024, 12:00:57 PM3 course meal and near enough a whole bottle of wine for £80? You're hardly boasting about your Michelin star experience the way some folk are suggesting.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2024, 06:15:57 PMQuote from: Franko on March 26, 2024, 03:35:00 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2024, 02:51:59 PMOut for a meal on Sat afternoon.. bill was £80 a head! Is what it is, had a great time and decent food..Ya only live once!
Anyone else baffled as to the point of this post?
The point is.. people complaining about going out and spending money in Belfast when they are aware of the cost!
Go out, enjoy it and stop your gurning.
Or just sit in
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2024, 02:51:59 PMOut for a meal on Sat afternoon.. bill was £80 a head! Is what it is, had a great time and decent food..Ya only live once!
Quote from: seafoid on March 26, 2024, 12:14:23 PMQuote from: Franko on March 26, 2024, 12:02:26 PMFinally, Franko. I can't believe it.Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 12:12:22 PMQuote from: Rossfan on March 16, 2024, 11:24:02 AMAs pointed out by others that's nothing to do the split season.It's isn't about the split season. They could run any kind of championship in the time available.
It's a good argument for abolishing the Provincials or the link between them and the AI.
OK, so we're agreed
This has everything to do with the structure of the championship and the relative weaknesses of the provincial championships compared to Ulster
And nothing to do with the split season
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 12:12:22 PMQuote from: Rossfan on March 16, 2024, 11:24:02 AMAs pointed out by others that's nothing to do the split season.It's isn't about the split season. They could run any kind of championship in the time available.
It's a good argument for abolishing the Provincials or the link between them and the AI.