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[Up against a club that financially outstripped its competitors in the PL by so much for the duration of his stint]

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC ...

Last post by Milltown Row2 - Today at 03:57:48 PM

Maybe he will stand in the centre circle and tell the fans their job now is to support the new manager aka 'the chosen one'.

Klopp is leaving Liverpool far better than he found them. If he had would nothing else apart from the Premier League he would still be considered a legend imo. The fact he won everything there was to win (apart from the Europa League obvs) means he will go down as one of the greatest managers the club has ever had.

Certainly whomever comes in has big boots to fill but they should be given time because it's probably going to take next season at the least to find his feet at such a big club. 

Genuinely intrigued that Liverpool fans will hold him in such high esteem, or maybe is it recency bias? He delivered one league title in 9 years?

I get that he is an iconic figure and was box office and even fans of other teams will miss him from the EPL.

You have to look at what he was up against. He has been up against the monster that is city. Up against a club that financially outstripped its competitors in the PL by so much for the duration of his stint. And he still managed to get a title and run them close in another few. Not to mention the champions league.
Given where Liverpool came from, it was an unreal feat. Look at the status of the club now compared to before he came. There is no comparison. IMO at least.

Been told a lot that Utd have spent more money than City? So which club uses its money wisely would be best to judge?

City have the best manager and Liverpool equally as good a team with less money spent than Utd, but their manager used it wisely and bought players which suited his system of play.

Whereas Utd and Chelsea have spent bucket fulls of money or poor players and a string of managers

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC ...

Last post by Armamike - Today at 03:54:34 PM

Klopp has left Liverpool in a very strong position compared to where he started.  So that's the ultimate assessment of his contribution.  Changed the culture around the club where the expectation now is the pursuit of excellence on and off the pitch.  There will be regrets over not winning another PL title or another champions league but we know the context around Man City and the PL.  Judge him as well on the finances made available to him compared to other clubs.  Will really miss his infectious personality and sheer presence as will just about all Liverpool fans. He's a one off.

#23

GAA Discussion / Re: Casement Park in line for ...

Last post by Rossfan - Today at 03:48:41 PM

Exchequer gets nothing from match tickets here.

Heard this at the weekend, GAA pay taxes on Northern games but no on Southern games

Yep, no VAT on sports admission in the 26.

#24

General discussion / Re: Premier League 2023-2024

Last post by Blowitupref - Today at 03:47:48 PM

I still think Man City could finish on around 86 points so this season was a chance to topple them, Arsenal might yet if form sticks.

From Premierleague.com.

Shots on target top 5 players

E Haaland 48
M Salah 47
O Wakins 45
D Nunez 44
C Palmer 40

Nunez is top of the list for hitting the post or crossbar (9 times) next is O Wakins at 5.

Total shots top 5
D Nunez 105    (goals 11)
E Haaland 102  (goals 20)
M Salah 100  (goals 17)
O Wakins 100  (goals 19)
D Solanke 98  (goals 17)

Cole Palmer the best 20 goals from 82 shots.

[What we have seen so far in Ulster is the favourite's are getting their balls slapped]

#25

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...

Last post by illdecide - Today at 03:36:03 PM

As for Armagh game...Armagh will always give you good chances in a game and if you take most of them then you'll be in touching distance, if you fail they'll have a wee spell where they can pull away from you easily and game could be over (this is for the lesser teams BTW). Armagh are very unpredictable and could win by 1-2 pts or 15pts it's all down to the other teams taking the chances Armagh give them in the game.
What we have seen so far in Ulster is the favourite's are getting their balls slapped so hope this is different and Armagh have taken note of the previous weeks, a sending off or lose goal or two and anything can happen but I expect Armagh to win by 5-6pts as they should have too much for Down

not exactly true as we didnt have any issues against Fermanagh

True, but Fermanagh didn't take the early chances we gave them

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC ...

Last post by trueblue1234 - Today at 03:18:19 PM

Maybe he will stand in the centre circle and tell the fans their job now is to support the new manager aka 'the chosen one'.

Klopp is leaving Liverpool far better than he found them. If he had would nothing else apart from the Premier League he would still be considered a legend imo. The fact he won everything there was to win (apart from the Europa League obvs) means he will go down as one of the greatest managers the club has ever had.

Certainly whomever comes in has big boots to fill but they should be given time because it's probably going to take next season at the least to find his feet at such a big club. 

Genuinely intrigued that Liverpool fans will hold him in such high esteem, or maybe is it recency bias? He delivered one league title in 9 years?

I get that he is an iconic figure and was box office and even fans of other teams will miss him from the EPL.

You have to look at what he was up against. He has been up against the monster that is city. Up against a club that financially outstripped its competitors in the PL by so much for the duration of his stint. And he still managed to get a title and run them close in another few. Not to mention the champions league.
Given where Liverpool came from, it was an unreal feat. Look at the status of the club now compared to before he came. There is no comparison. IMO at least.

#27

General discussion / Re: Things that make you go .....

Last post by Lubo Moravcik - Today at 03:13:52 PM

https://www.newstalk.com/news/jim-sheridan-im-going-to-work-to-clear-ian-baileys-name-1717769

#28

General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC ...

Last post by Turf - Today at 03:09:56 PM

I've always thought Nunez was better coming off the bench, someone to cause a bit of chaos. Saying that he didn't have much impact against Palace last week but even still I think he is someone who is better coming into a game rather than a starter.
Liverpool been very unlucky with Jota missing so many games, probably the closest they have to a natural finisher.
I think they should give a few of the youngsters a game now that the title is gone and top 4 is safe, would like to see more of Danns especially.

#29

GAA Discussion / Re: Who will win 2024 All-Irel...

Last post by rrhf - Today at 03:09:36 PM

Armagh must be worth an each way bet. Likely to be top seeds having had some warm up matches to try systems/squad before the Ulster final against a jaded Donegal or Tyrone. They'll probably not have a better chance of making a semi or a final for a while.

In all seriousness, bar drawing Dublin I'd be very disappointed if we don't make a semi final. Donegal, Tyrone, Kerry, Derry, Galway, Mayo all very good teams but have their flaws, time we pushed on, sick of hard luck stories at the qf stage.

You have a serious chance of making top seed and then a 66% chance of drawing Clare or Louth/Kildare as 2nd seed in your group. Avoid the preliminary quarter final thereafter and you're set up to beat the hard luck stories!

Donegal have to be favourites for Ulster and serious All Ireland contenders after that performance at the weekend.

I Watched Donegal back last night. To say they blew Derry off the field is an understatement.  Probably the biggest shock in football since they bate the dubs in 2014 and yer man was at the helm then also.  Mc Guinness takes a lot of flak but I think he is a strategic genius and he has rebuilt Donegal again. Can they win the all Ireland. Id put them ahead of Derry at the moment who will now suffer from an inferiority complex with the teams who beat them, as they always do..

#30

General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC ...

Last post by Look-Up! - Today at 03:02:42 PM

VVD plays in a vital position. Still has plenty to give and a natural leader. I think it would be too risky to get rid, unless his heart not in it and he wants away himself. Earns 150k less than Salah, who I think is a big problem going forward not only because of his poor form, but he's putting massive upward pressure on future wage negotiations, be that existing contract renewals or new signings. 

Bank the Saudi cash for Salah and go for Ivan Toney, seriously rate that lad, he'll get 20 plus a year on a good team.

Salah is bang out of form, there's no doubting that, but Liverpools main assists used to come from wide, TTA and Robertson, TAA injured quite a lot this year and so has Robertson, who's been below par as well.

Carragher has given up on Nunez, seems to think he'll not get any better than what he is now and although his rates of scoring from really good chances is poor, surely that's something that still can be worked on, no?

Gakpo looked a bit better the last few games, probably missed last night, but not complaining..

Great shout on Toney. I don't think you can blame assists because an assist is only an assist if the chance is converted. Creating chances is not a problem for Liverpool.

I'd agree with Carragher. He's had 2 years, he's a 7-10 goals a season striker at best. He's even doing well to maintain that rate in a team where he's getting an embarrassment of chances. People saying he'll come good, or if he could just develop the finishing of Fowler he'd be class etc. You could equally say if Jozy Altidore was hypnotized to believe he was Lionel Messi, the result would be Darwin Nunez.