Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[Scoring Zone]

We can debate starting 15's til the cows come home but can't see any major changes next year bar 1 or2 forward positions dictated on weather cavanagh gives it another year

mayo highlighted we need a forward that can score 3-4 points from play against quality sides, and S Cavanagh is the only man consistently can do it and at a push McCurry, this is where the difference is between the top 2-3 teams.

also another point is in 2013 and 2015 in the two semi-finals Tyrone marched into them matched on the back of a very big siege mentality - 2013 the uproar over the cavanagh tackle against monaghan in the quarters and the penrose and gormley yellow and red cards and 2015 - the rte bias and the tiernan mccann bitchfest and they couldn't get over it even with the biggest chips on their shoulder, and compare to this year, although only beaten by a point by a mayo team with no forwards, the performance was very flat after the hype machine of the ulster final and two wonder scores to win it in injury time.

Realistically in the next 1-2 years (given harte is manager) they need to push to an all-ireland final and win ulster again but this will the most I think we will get out of this team unless a top consistent forward comes to the fore

A top consistent forward !!! Seriously ?
As mentioned before a top forward is useless given the system tyrone play. This top forward will be marked by two or possibly three defenders, then has to win his own ball (usually in the corner) where all he can do is recycle the ball back out for someone else to shoot. We can argue all we want the pros and cons of the way gavin devlin makes tyrone play, but don't be silly enough to believe that a good forward would make a difference

Doubt your concussed chief, Canavagh - 3points from play - ulster title, costello (although hasn't proven himself)- 3points from play - All-Ireland title, P Geany Kerry, 2-3 points in semi-final and pushed dublin all the way, Conor McManus - do monaghan win ulster titles without him?, Paddy McBearty etc etc these guys make the difference   

Currently we have no forwards to really worry top opposition and therefore the lethargic buildup play and wait to Harte, Donnelly or cavanagh comes on a burst, a top forward inside would force tyrone to move the ball quicker and stretch the opposition  but on a side note would start lee brennan and carry him for a few years just for the frees 

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We can debate starting 15's til the cows come home but can't see any major changes next year bar 1 or2 forward positions dictated on weather cavanagh gives it another year

mayo highlighted we need a forward that can score 3-4 points from play against quality sides, and S Cavanagh is the only man consistently can do it and at a push McCurry, this is where the difference is between the top 2-3 teams.

also another point is in 2013 and 2015 in the two semi-finals Tyrone marched into them matched on the back of a very big siege mentality - 2013 the uproar over the cavanagh tackle against monaghan in the quarters and the penrose and gormley yellow and red cards and 2015 - the rte bias and the tiernan mccann bitchfest and they couldn't get over it even with the biggest chips on their shoulder, and compare to this year, although only beaten by a point by a mayo team with no forwards, the performance was very flat after the hype machine of the ulster final and two wonder scores to win it in injury time.

Realistically in the next 1-2 years (given harte is manager) they need to push to an all-ireland final and win ulster again but this will the most I think we will get out of this team unless a top consistent forward comes to the fore

A top consistent forward !!! Seriously ?
As mentioned before a top forward is useless given the system tyrone play. This top forward will be marked by two or possibly three defenders, then has to win his own ball (usually in the corner) where all he can do is recycle the ball back out for someone else to shoot. We can argue all we want the pros and cons of the way gavin devlin makes tyrone play, but don't be silly enough to believe that a good forward would make a difference

Doubt your concussed chief, Canavagh - 3points from play - ulster title, costello (although hasn't proven himself)- 3points from play - All-Ireland title, P Geany Kerry, 2-3 points in semi-final and pushed dublin all the way, Conor McManus - do monaghan win ulster titles without him?, Paddy McBearty etc etc these guys make the difference   

Currently we have no forwards to really worry top opposition and therefore the lethargic buildup play and wait to Harte, Donnelly or cavanagh comes on a burst, a top forward inside would force tyrone to move the ball quicker and stretch the opposition  but on a side note would start lee brennan and carry him for a few years just for the frees

Whatever you say chief !!!
Cormac Costello scored 3 points all year btw. You tell us Tyrone don't have a top consistent forward and then you say sean cavanagh is a top consistent forward
Can you read ?
Give my post another go

[southtyronegael]

mc gleenan away to cavan anyway. mickeys possible successors are droppin like flys. [m o'rourke gone too]. wouldnt be surprised if mark harte gets the job.lol

[Club boi]

I wouldn't joke at that ........

[The Sweeper.com]

mc gleenan away to cavan anyway. mickeys possible successors are droppin like flys. [m o'rourke gone too]. wouldnt be surprised if mark harte gets the job.lol

Any word on who all going along with Mattie in Cavan? Peter Reilly mentioned. Dont know if its true or not.

[redhandefender]

mc gleenan away to cavan anyway. mickeys possible successors are droppin like flys. [m o'rourke gone too]. wouldnt be surprised if mark harte gets the job.lol

Gone where ye clown. To Cavan? I'm pretty sure if he was asked to take Tyrone job he would. He's not contractually bound

[southtyronegael]

mc gleenan away to cavan anyway. mickeys possible successors are droppin like flys. [m o'rourke gone too]. wouldnt be surprised if mark harte gets the job.lol

Gone where ye clown. To Cavan? I'm pretty sure if he was asked to take Tyrone job he would. He's not contractually bound

is ur post in reply to mine? who u callin a clown?

[Club boi]

Mattie on his way to Cavan is the word on the street.

Great draw for Mattie. Manage to bate Monaghan and he's in an Ulster Final

Also love the way he sets up with Scotstown. Seriously unlucky not to win Ulster last year v Cross. Best game of Football I think I've ever witnessed

[Il Bomber Destro]

The bottom half of the draw is well set up for Armagh, they should beat an atrocious Down side and will be coming in under the radar against a side who will already have had to put at least one big performance in to get to the semi. It's a very tough draw for Monaghan and I think they will slip up somewhere down the line.

We should handle a depleted Derry without much fuss and the Donegal game is the big one. It will be interesting to see how much Gallagher shakes up the Donegal squad.

[time ticking away]

Mattie on his way to Cavan is the word on the street.

Great draw for Mattie. Manage to bate Monaghan and he's in an Ulster Final

Also love the way he sets up with Scotstown. Seriously unlucky not to win Ulster last year v Cross. Best game of Football I think I've ever witnessed

I'm wile curious to know. How do you believe Scotstown "set up"?

[leenie]

Few scotstown men aren't to happy that Mattie announced this week his move to Cavan, they don't know where that leaves them..

[keepherlit]

Few scotstown men aren't to happy that Mattie announced this week his move to Cavan, they don't know where that leaves them..

Aren't 2 happy, 3 Monaghan Senior Championships! It leaves them looking for a new manager I'd guess.

[Club boi]

Mattie on his way to Cavan is the word on the street.

would be a real shame if we let him away. he is deffo the man we are crying out for to take us forward. i love his tactics with scotstown, no sweepers, kick the ball, go man to man in an offensive minded gameplan. mattie is just the type of culture change we need in tyrone.

To Quote Southtyronegael

[Mikhailov]

Mattie on his way to Cavan is the word on the street.

would be a real shame if we let him away. he is deffo the man we are crying out for to take us forward. i love his tactics with scotstown, no sweepers, kick the ball, go man to man in an offensive minded gameplan. mattie is just the type of culture change we need in tyrone.

To Quote Southtyronegael

Lads, don't be fooled. Scotstown get plenty behind the ball when they lose it but kick it quick when in possession. Still very defensive when opposition have the ball but good when they turn you over. As someone else said earlier in this thread, they are by far the no.1 team in Monaghan with an abundance of county players at all levels so should be in contention every year - that is why they don't need to play with a sweeper in vast majority of games..... In saying that, Mattie has delivered when it has counted so kudos for that.

[time ticking away]

Scotstown have been very succesful under matt. He must get credit for that. However if anyone thinks Scotstown play some kind of 15 v 15 game then they either haven't seem them in big games and/or just believe what matt tells the papers. Indeed club boi reckons last year's ulster club final was the best game he had ever seen. Scotstown had two defenders lined out at centre half forward and corner forward that day. Don't believe all you read.