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Title: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 10, 2006, 09:10:06 AM
Sorry O'Neill, thought you would have had this up already...

Pretty confident about Sunday, as I think Liverpool will struggle to score against us...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on November 10, 2006, 11:13:21 AM
Liverpool will struggle without sissoko. The gunners need to start with Adebyor and stop trying to make every goal "the perfect goal". With Eboue & Senderos back fit, it gives them a lot more options at the back
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 10, 2006, 10:16:36 PM
Liverpool are on a bit of a role, something like 5-6 wins. However, Arsenal are sure to be aware that anything other than 3 points may leave them with too much to do already. Does Adebayor get the nod over Van Persie? As someone said earlier the Togo striker is not afraid to score an ugly goal.

Some BBC facts:

ARSENAL and Liverpool may both be going well in the Champions League and have qualified for the quarter-finals of the League Cup, but the pair are well off the pace in the Premiership as they prepare to go head-to-head at the Emirates Stadium.

The Gunners are second in the Premiership's "Last Six Current Form" table, despite last Sunday's shock defeat by West Ham and the much publicised touch-line spat between the managers. But they're defending an unbeaten home League record, and manager Arsene Wenger has not seen his side suffer back-to-back Premiership defeats in over nine months. The last five Premiership clashes between Arsenal and Liverpool have been won by the club playing at home. The Gunners prevailed 2-1 most recently in March, when an error by Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard allowed Thierry Henry to score his second, and the winner, in a dramatic finish at Highbury.

LIVERPOOL notched a fifth successive win and a third clean sheet in a row in all competitions with Wednesday's 0-1 victory at Birmingham in the Carling Cup. They now make their first ever visit to the Emirates Stadium eager to add to successive home League victories over Aston Villa and Reading, but have not claimed nine points out of nine since closing last season with nine victories in a row.

The Reds' away form in the Premiership this season has been poor. They've managed just one point out of a possible 15 from an opening day 1-1 draw at newly promoted Sheffield United, and have not scored in four games on the road since. Indeed they are yet to net from open play on their League travels this season.

The Merseysiders have not taken maximum points away from Arsenal in six attempts and only once in eight visits. Titi Camara was on target in the 0-1 triumph on 13 February 2000.

REFEREE

Mark Clattenburg (Tyne & Wear)


SEQUENCES/RECENT FORM


ARSENAL
Club stats
Fixtures
Going into the weekend: 6th 18 points
(all statistics are ahead of this weekend's round of Premiership fixtures)

1. Chasing a sixth victory of this Premiership season, but the last three League games have resulted in a win, a draw and a defeat, in that order.

2. Lost one of the last eight in the Premier League (1-0, away to West Ham, last time out). The game at Upton Park is also the only occasion in the eight games when Arsenal have failed to score.

3. Not conceded more than a single goal in any League game this term.

4. Conceded just six League goals this season - that's one every two and half hours of Premiership football played, on average.

5. Hold 100% Premiership records when scoring first (won four of four) and when keeping clean sheets (won four of four).

6. Arsenal and Fulham have gained more points from losing positions in Premiership matches this season than any other clubs. Both have picked up six points from games in which they were behind. The Gunners showed their resilience by winning at Charlton and drawing at home to Aston Villa, Middlesbrough and Everton.

7. Not lost successive Premiership matches in 21 games, since beaten away to Liverpool and home to Blackburn on 14 and 25 February, respectively.

8. Unbeaten in 12 home Premiership games. Won seven and drawn five at home since a 2-3 loss to West Ham on 1 February (won two and drawn three this season).

9. Arsenal are home to Newcastle, before they host Hamburg in the Champions League.

LIVERPOOL
Club stats
Fixtures
Going into the weekend: 8th 17 points
(all statistics are ahead of this weekend's round of Premiership fixtures)

1. Won the last five against Reading (h, Carling Cup), Aston Villa (h, PL), Bordeaux (h, CL), Reading (h, PL) and Birmingham (a, Carling Cup).

2. Chasing a sixth Premiership victory of the season.

3. Hold 100% Premiership records when scoring first (won four of four) and when keeping clean sheets (won three of three).

4. Gone 21 top flight matches without a goalless draw, since the home clash with Charlton on 4 March.

5. Failed to score in five of the last seven away from home, in all competitions.

6. Gained just one point on the road, since ending the last League season with a 1-3 triumph at Portsmouth on 7 May.

7. Another away game follows this, at Middlesbrough, before PSV Eindhoven come to Anfield for a Champions League group match.

KEY PLAYER NOTES/POTENTIAL MILESTONES


ARSENAL
Squad profiles

Thierry HENRY is Arsenal's top scorer with six goals, five in the Premiership.

Henry has scored eight goals in 11 Premiership appearances against Liverpool, including a hat-trick at Highbury on 9 April 2004.

Jens LEHMANN, Cesc FABREGAS and Kolo TOURE have been on the pitch for every minute of Arsenal's Premiership matches this season.

If he plays, Lehmann will be playing the day after turning 37.

LIVERPOOL
Squad profiles

Peter CROUCH is Liverpool's top scorer with eight goals.

If he plays, Crouch will be making his 200th career League appearance (QPR, Portsmouth, Aston Villa, Norwich, Southampton and Liverpool).

Jose Manuel REINA is the only remaining player to have figured in every minute of the Reds' Premiership matches this season.

Jermaine PENNANT made his League debut for Arsenal.

Craig BELLAMY is a hat-trick shy of 50 Premier League goals (Coventry, Newcastle, Blackburn and Liverpool).

LAST SEASON'S CORRESPONDING GAME

Arsenal 2-1 Liverpool
12 March 2006 - Ref: Steve Bennett
Arsenal scorers: Henry 21, 83
Liverpool scorer: Luis Garcia 76
Sent Off: Alonso (Liverpool) 81

HEAD TO HEAD TOTALS

Home and away
League: Arsenal 57 wins, Liverpool 67, Draws 40
Prem: Arsenal 8 wins, Liverpool 13, Draws 7

at Arsenal only
League: Arsenal 36 wins, Liverpool 20, Draws 26
Prem: Arsenal 5 wins, Liverpool 5, Draws 4

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on November 10, 2006, 10:31:01 PM
Glad to see this one up and running,

Always a good read on the other board! 

Up the Gunners!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 10, 2006, 10:47:07 PM
What's going on with Wenger?

QuoteSULKING Arsene Wenger has cancelled his usual Friday Press conference — for the first time in 10 years.

The Gunners boss is still refusing to talk after being charged with improper conduct by the FA.

Wenger stormed away from Upton Park without comment after his touchline bust-up with West Ham's Alan Pardew during the 1-0 defeat. He also failed to speak to the media after the 1-0 Carling Cup win at Everton on Wednesday.

Now the moaning monsieur has extended his vow of silence and is not even talking to the club's official website.

Today's boycott will be the first time since Wenger took charge at Arsenal in 1996 he has not spoken before a big home match.

And club officials cannot guarantee their manager will speak after Sunday's clash with Liverpool at the Emirates Stadium.

As Wenger's lips remained sealed, it was left to Fulham's Chris Coleman and Watford's Aidy Boothroyd to jump to the defence of feuding bosses.

Coleman insisted the FA must be careful not to take the passion out of football.

He said: "Fans want their managers to show passion.

"It would be impossible for me not to celebrate a goal. I've found myself standing three yards on to the pitch after we have scored and could not even tell you how I got there.

"What we saw at West Ham was a manager who was under pressure and another who was disappointed that a couple of decisions didn't go his way. It was understandable."

Coleman said that Manchester United chief Alex Ferguson was the one boss he would not like to upset.

He said: "The hardest manager in the Premiership? There is only one hard man — and he's a Scot."

Boothroyd believes the FA should stop wasting money charging bosses and use it where it matters.

He said: "They should spend more time on the grassroots and educating coaches — and stop messing about with small things."



Gilberto says:

QuoteThere were no problems with Mr Wenger and the players because the problem didn't involve the players. But the situation left us scared. We know the manager and we know that he is very polite and calm. Something very bad had happened to make him react like he did. After the game, Mr Wenger didn't talk to anyone. As it wasn't a problem involving the players, he decided not to discuss it with us.

"I have seen it on TV many times, and when West Ham scored Pardew came to our bench to celebrate, but in an offensive way. That made Wenger react how he did, and that is why he had to talk to Pardew about that celebration.

"He was p***ed off about the way he celebrated and, as i said, that was the reason he reacted that way. As I saw it on TV, Pardew said some words that he, as a manager, should have thought about before saying. He should have showed a little more respect. Of course, he could celebrate the goal, but not in the offensive way he did. That is what made Mr Wenger react."


Can it be that AW is simply embarrassed? I don't get it....the media didn't cause this. He was shunning them (on Sunday) long before they had written a word.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on November 11, 2006, 11:47:33 AM
arsenal are going through a stage where they cant score but are making chance after chance. every goal has to be a thing of beauty, they need adebayor playing, he doesnt care if he scores with his head or his arse as long as it crosses the line. thierry, cesc etc need to realise that a goal is a goal wether its from 30 yards or 2yard own goal. i have a feeling some team is going to get a thrashing (as in 5-0) very soon. cant see it being liverpool but i do think we'll beat them 3-1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on November 11, 2006, 12:01:27 PM
I remember Arsenal going through stages like this before, and it came good before too much was made of it. Liverpool at home would be a good team to beat to put it behind us.

BTW Paddy Power has RVP @ 6's or Rosicky @ 8's to be tomorrow's first scorer. Worth a fiver maybe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 11, 2006, 01:02:10 PM
I see it's Liverpool v Arsenal in the Carling Cup as well. Asking the reserves to beat Everton was tough enough, but the Reds might be a Mersey journey too far.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on November 11, 2006, 01:10:41 PM
Mmmm. you're probably right O'Neill, and I can't see Wenger playing a more senior side as his outlook in the league cup has always been to experiment with the younger guys, something not many Premiership side would entertain.

A win over the "Pool" tomorrow would be enough for me, we need to get the league campaign underway before the others are out of sight  :-[
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 11, 2006, 05:32:06 PM
I believe Rosicky pulled up in training. A pity, as he was starting to shine as an attacking force.
Title: Goons 3 Liverpool 0
Post by: ONeill on November 12, 2006, 07:09:29 PM
Surprisingly easy. A piss-poor Liverpool team were overturned with relative ease. Arsenal have played better in recent games and not won. I liked the Clichy-Gallas-Toure-Eboue back four. Fairly tight defensively with an attacking element down both flanks (even though it was the central defenders who scored). Good to see Henry rolling the sleeves up and getting stuck in - played the captain's part well. Again, Hleb and Fab spent much of the game weaving nice patterns - sometimes it works.

What is slightly annoying is that having won at Old Trafford and annihilated Liverpool, Arsenal are still 10 off the pace. No more losses to bottom half teams needed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 12, 2006, 07:34:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 12, 2006, 07:09:29 PM
Surprisingly easy.

Na, always expected an easy 3 points here, Liverpool would always try and play football, once Arsenal scored first this game was never going to be in doubt.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on November 12, 2006, 08:22:29 PM
Good victory today, always nice to win at home, esp this season, and to beat Liverpool by this scoreline is always pleasing on the eye.

And not a striker on the scoreboard!!!!

I was gonna post this on the Spurs thread, but it seems to have disaperred. So here it goes:

Reading 3-1 Tottenham

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

We actually STUFFED this team 4-0 recently, I'll write it again in case Mr Fearon doesn't understand this

Arsenal 4- 0 Reading

Makes a mockery of last season where you actually thought you were a better side than Arsenal :  :D

As if!!??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on November 12, 2006, 08:25:48 PM
Sorry, Spurs thread still here, mores the pity  :-[
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 15, 2006, 10:28:25 PM
Henry scored the winner (another header!) for France v Greece friendly tonight. Surprisingly he played the 90 mins. Worryingly lacking the pace of 2004/5.
Hoyte scored the winner for Eng U21s but Walcott off injured.
Djourou/Senderos c**k-up for Switzerland v Brazil
Cygan scored for Villareal last week!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 16, 2006, 08:24:13 PM
Arsenal v Newcastle (with their 3 fit defenders) is live on RTE this Saturday at 3PM.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on November 17, 2006, 09:03:05 PM
I'm usually very cautious about the visit of Newcastle ever since they beat us at Highbury a few days before Christmas a few years back. Very embarrassing as I was going out with a Geordie for a while at Uni and I took a bit of grief for it. (Proper nutters Geordie wemen).

But it was take an amazing transformation in form for Newcastle to beat the goons tomorrow, they can't score or defend, a dangerous combination in any league.

My prediction: 2-0 to the Gunners

Baptista & Freddie are back too apparently
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 17, 2006, 09:14:54 PM
Disappointing that Gilberto is away back to Brazil for a wee while for 'personal reasons'. Love him or loathe him, the invisible wall always seems to be there when you need him most. Rosicky also out for another week. Who to start in midfield? Ljungberg-Baptista-Fabregas-Hleb? 2 players just back in there so maybe he'll hand Flamini a role in the middle third. Walcott suffered a hand injury for the England U21s. Newcastle will probably start Milner, Emre, Parker, Duff in the middle.

Up front Henry/RVP or Henry/Adebayor? I'd start the latter tomorrow.
Title: Newcastle injuries!
Post by: ONeill on November 17, 2006, 09:19:38 PM
O Bernard    hip    no return date     
M Pattison    knee    no return date     
T Bramble    back    18th Nov 06     
S Taylor    groin    18th Nov 06     
T Krul    knee       
C Babayaro    groin    6th Dec 06     
S Carr    bruised toe    18th Nov 06     
S Parker    groin    18th Nov 06     
O Martins    hamstring    18th Nov 06     
S Ameobi    hip    no return date     
M Owen    knee (ACL)    May 07
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on November 17, 2006, 09:23:59 PM
Man thats a shockin big list. The Geordie Docs will be on good overtime on the run up to Christmas!

I'd start RVP personally, Adebayor in 2nd half for Henry should we be in control.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on November 18, 2006, 02:36:12 AM
I'm a fan of Adebayor, particularly when it come to unlocking stubborn defences, but Newcadtle are so poor at the moment I believe we should start with Henry & Van Persie up front. This match should suit the gunners passing game, with the possibilty of scoring 3 or 4 goals. If Newcastle can hold out for the first hour, the bring on Adebayor for the last 30 mins  to sneak a goal for an ugly 3 points
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on November 18, 2006, 02:58:24 PM
Looks like Henry is gonna be on the bench today. I'd imagine after 90 mins midweek he'll only be used if we are in bother.
Title: Arsenal 1 Geordies 1
Post by: ONeill on November 18, 2006, 07:52:04 PM
Well, what to do? Arsenal continue to play their free-flowing version of total football without putting the ball in the net. Some of Arsenal's play was of such a high standard in the middle third that you've now become used to/spoiled by it. However, the decision to rest Henry seems to have backfired. Despite all his huffing and puffing when things don't go his way, Henry seems to be indispensable. Perhaps his 90 mins for France coupled with the match this Tuesday played a part in Wenger's decision.

I thought Arsenal upped their work-rate off the ball and I thought this was some kind of statement that we can survive without Henry. A soft soft goal to give away. Gallas talked earlier in the week that Arsenal need to find a balance between attack and defence. Newcastle scored in their first real attack after 30 mins, 2 on 2. Hleb was weaving his patterns, Fabregas seemed up for it and Clichy was bombing forward. Arsenal actually did little wrong apart from scoring - the crucial difference between the top teams. In one way it's utterly frustrating, and on the other you wouldn't want Arsenal to change their style. You know that if they're 1-up, they'll not be caught. As Wenger said after the game, it was the same old story. Arsenal don't score early on, then concede a soft goal, then spend the rest of the game chasing. He claimed this team needs to learn the right ingredients to take the title. What was the difference between the 2003/4 Invincibles and this side? Bergkamp's vision? Campbell's no frills approach? Vieira? Unless Baptista can recreate some of the Senegal man's steel, Arsenal may continue to have a soft centre. Gilberto was a loss today. He'd arguably have broken up the attack which led to Dyer's well-taken goal. However, that doesn't disguise the fact that Arsenal didn't score from play despite 60% possession and 23 attempts on goal. Newcastle, as do 99% of teams, just parked their bus in the 'D'. I'm at a loss as to the solution - forget a out trying to dominate all possession and allow opposing teams to commit themselves forward now and again and hit them on the break?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on November 19, 2006, 04:42:24 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 18, 2006, 07:52:04 PM
forget a out trying to dominate all possession and allow opposing teams to commit themselves forward now and again and hit them on the break?

But if Arsenal changed thier style of play I honestly believe they would suffer a lot more than they are right now.
For all our possesion we were careless in attack at times (Adebayor's work rate is great but he's far from the finished article)
I fear our title chances are gone now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 19, 2006, 11:59:15 PM
u sound like wenger!why do u complain that teams come and defend at your place?do they not do this when they go 2 old trafford, the bridge or anfield?and even when they do u prob make more chances than aNY OF THE OTHER MENTRIONED TEAMS!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 20, 2006, 09:31:50 AM
Gilberto was a loss on Saturday, Arsenal don't need to change their style they just need to defend better, it's one thing believeing you can out pass and beat any team but you have to defend as well, Newcastle took their chance well and in Given had the best player on the pitch. The title is probably beyond them but this experience bodes well for the future.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hows she cutting on November 20, 2006, 11:28:43 AM
what do you make of Henrys reasoning for lack of goals at The Easyjet Stadium.

Reckons they haven't got used to the new surroundings yet and have no visual references within the stadium whilst on the pitch.

Sounds like a load of codswallop to me
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 22, 2006, 10:17:41 AM
Jesus Arsenal were brutal last night, very frustrating to watch. Anyone else listen to the Setanta commentary, totaly negative about everything Arsenal and spent the whole second half given Eboube dogs so was delighted to see him score. Lou Macari you haven't a clue!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 22, 2006, 08:16:48 PM
Only got to see clips, Dinny. In what what were they brutal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 22, 2006, 10:03:16 PM
Just their whole negative attitude towards Arsenal, every time Eboube made an error they just pounced on it, started calling Henry a "big game bottler", they just kept accentuating Arsenals failings over and over again set pieces, perfect goal, can be got at etc etc etc

Lou Macari was literally saying Henry was a diving cheat, he was just negative negative not in the slightest bit constructive in his critisism and offered no tactical insight into the game whatsoever but as Walcott was British the sun shined out of his ass, for an Arsenal fan it was just a horrible television experience
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 23, 2006, 10:13:22 AM
im a lpool man and even i no that eboue is a very goofd fullback.hes so young and could develop into a gr8 one under guidANCE OF WENGER
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 24, 2006, 08:10:04 PM
Bolton v Arsenal - this is usually the game that reveals whether or not Arsenal have the balls to stand up to a wee bit of Northern biff. With RVP and Henry ruled out for this, it'll be interesting to see whether Wenger throws Walcott in for a start, alongside Adebayor. Hopefully he doesn't plump for Aliadiere.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 25, 2006, 07:33:50 PM
So predictable it's almost funny. Bolton kick Arsenal around the stadium, mostly legally, Arsenal lose the bap and completely lose their system. A 3-1 thumping spells the end of any faint hopes of the title, even if the Russians beat Salford tomorrow. Tying up 3rd is a priority. A real reality check today. Bolton were a credit to their fans - chased, harried, played to a system and thon f*cker Anelka on serious form.

Beating Fulham on Wednesday now looks a formidable task!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 28, 2006, 09:17:08 PM
Was afraid to post this earlier in the year in case it was closed down due to publicity but it doesn't seem to matter. I have been able to watch almost any game in Europe at any time using this site - eg tomorrow click on the midweek thread, click on the link at the bottom of the first post in it by admin and you'll get a plethora of ways to watch the game - I usually watch on ESPN (sky commentary mostly) but there are rakes of Chinese channels.

http://www.myp2p.eu/forum/index.php
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2006, 09:45:04 PM
Fulham 2 Arsenal 1

Oh dear.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on November 29, 2006, 10:08:19 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 28, 2006, 09:17:08 PM
Was afraid to post this earlier in the year in case it was closed down due to publicity but it doesn't seem to matter. I have been able to watch almost any game in Europe at any time using this site - eg tomorrow click on the midweek thread, click on the link at the bottom of the first post in it by admin and you'll get a plethora of ways to watch the game - I usually watch on ESPN (sky commentary mostly) but there are rakes of Chinese channels.

http://www.myp2p.eu/forum/index.php


That site is a god send!

Setanta's coverage was on there for the first few weeks of the season, but they pulled it pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 30, 2006, 09:36:52 AM
We'll beat the Spuds on Saturday, get a result in Portugal but I think we might get thonked by Chelsea, too young and just not physical enough especially now as the pitches get heavier...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hows she cutting on November 30, 2006, 10:57:37 AM
ONeill

what is the story with using that site for watching games?

do you have to download anything?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2006, 07:23:23 PM
No you shouldn't have to download anything, unless it's on 'ppmate' .If it's on that channel, download ppmate first. The likes of ESPN or the Chinese channels are fine.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on November 30, 2006, 08:21:47 PM
Tried to watch the Newcastl match to see if it worked for me, kept getting page cannot be displayed. am i doing something wrong?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2006, 08:33:18 PM
Which station? There are about 20 options there. All working for me. (although I use firefox browser)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2006, 08:35:19 PM
Download and install "tvants".  http://www.football4less.com/streams/tvants.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on November 30, 2006, 09:12:12 PM
O,Neill, on clicking Download TVANts i was greeted with this, now I know yous Tyronies speak a different lingo, but WTF, where next?

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您正在搜索的页面可能已经删除、更名或暂时不可用。
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请尝试以下操作:

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如果通过单击链接而到达了该网页,请与网站管理员联系,通知他们该链接的格式不正确。
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HTTP 错误 404 - 文件或目录未找到。
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技术信息(为技术支持人员提供)

转到 Microsoft 产品支持服务并搜索包括"HTTP"和"404"的标题。
打开"IIS 帮助"(可在 IIS 管理器 (inetmgr) 中访问),然后搜索标题为"网站设置"、"常规管理任务"和"关于自定义错误消息"的主题。
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2006, 09:34:07 PM
http://download.tvants.com/pub/tvants/tvants1/win32/bin/TvantsSetup.EXE
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on December 01, 2006, 05:40:22 PM
Thanks O'neill

i seem to have found something, the big test will come tomorrow when i actuall try and find a live match
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 02, 2006, 03:11:39 PM
Adebayor, take a bow son, fantastic game. Arsenal win never in doubt, the Spuds thought they could play football, tactics all wrong the Goons could have won 5/6 - 0. Two penalties were harsh but Arsenal were easily the better side. Roll on Porto...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 02, 2006, 09:57:26 PM
http://goonergoals.blogspot.com/

There was a crucial difference today. In those first 45 minutes, Arsenal played that sublime football they have churned out on many occasions this year. The difference was threefold

a) didn't concede breakaway goal (almost did)
b) Scored (dubious offside)
c) The players worked their collective arse off.

This time Arsenal had that wee bit of luck they needed. As Dinny pointed out, Adebayor was immense. Chased, harried, did everything Henry wasn't (twas nice to see he made a beeline for TH after the goal). Spuds were absolutely crap and Lennon was taught a lesson by the younger Fabregas. Lennon may have broken his way into the England team, and Fabregas struggling to gain a starting place in the Spanish side, but that says more about the respective countries.

The penalties were dodgy enough for differing reasons but that didn't really matter. It could've been 6-0. It'll be great to get Gallas and Henry back but this result will give the team available plenty of confidence for the Porto and Chelsea games. I've a feeling though that Hamburg will take a point at home v Moscow anyway.

By the way Dinny, that's a flipping hypnotical avatar. Find myself staring at it for minutes. Hope it ain't subliminal and I'll not be following my sister's lead and moving to Kildare.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on December 03, 2006, 01:44:34 AM
O'Neill

sorted, thanks wa able ti watch the ManYoo match, watch another few tomorrow.


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 05, 2006, 11:39:45 PM
A bit of the oul polonium 210 found at Arsenal I hear. Wonder will Spurs blame that a la lasagne.

QuotePolonium traces found at Arsenal stadium
Tue 05 Dec, 8:33 PM

LONDON (Reuters) - Investigators have found minute traces of polonium 210, the radioactive isotope that killed former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko, at a local stadium, a public health spokeswoman said on Tuesday.

The traces were found at the stadium of English Premier League club Arsenal.

"Minute quantities (of polonium) were found at barely detectable levels at localised areas," said Health Protection Agency spokeswoman Katherine Lewis. "There is no risk to public health."

British police are in Moscow investigating Litvinenko's death in a case that has strained ties between both countries since the exiled former spy on his death bed accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of ordering his assassination.

Litvinenko died in a London hospital on November 23 from a lethal dose of polonium 210 after falling ill on Nov 1.

One of the men British police want to question in Russia is Andrei Lugovoy who travelled to London on October 31 with his wife and three children to watch CSKA Moscow play Arsenal in a Champions League game on November 1.

He met Litvinenko at a London hotel earlier the same day.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 05, 2006, 11:50:30 PM
Do you think the health protection agency will get wenger to eat something while they are there?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 06, 2006, 12:06:10 AM
Hear the Geiger counter produced the best score so far at Arsenal's new ground! :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 06, 2006, 09:51:59 PM
What a boring f*cking game, didn't watch half it, result was inevitable and a nice earner. Sunday I think could be a heavy defeat but Chelsea will probably settle for a 1-0..
Title: 0-0
Post by: ONeill on December 06, 2006, 09:56:45 PM
Phew. For a few minutes when Moscow were 2-1 up on the Germans and Porto piling the pressure on Lehman, things looked as if the season would end on a cold December night. Thank the Lord the Porto manager realised that if they conceded they'd be out too and calmed his men a little. As it turned out, 2 Hamburg goals meant that both Arsenal and Porto were through anyway.

A poor, yet somewhat satisfying Arsenal performance.

Looking at the possible last 16 opponents, from most desirable to least:

Lille
Celtic
PSV
Roma
Inter Milan
Real Madrid
Barcelona
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 06, 2006, 10:17:02 PM
Cheers O'Neill. I was wondering why the bookies wouldn't take single bets on this match. Now I know.
Title: Chavski 1 Arse 1
Post by: ONeill on December 10, 2006, 11:01:46 PM
The longer this game went on, the more confident I was that Arsenal would win it. It's no coincidence that Arsenal have taken 10 points from Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool and Spurs this year. When teams come out to play, Arsenal excel. I thought Arsenal were the better team in the first half in terms of passing, movement and harrying, without really threatening to take the lead. Chelsea seemed to up the tempo when the rain started to pelt. They're a fine team though the summer signing seem to disappear completely. Ballack was a real disappointment.

As for the Gooners, Senderos was a flipping liability. Hard to assess his performance though. Some great last ditch tackles but on the ball he was heart-attack football. I thought Adebayor, for the 3rd game running, was Arsenal's MOTM. Fantastic work-rate and has really taken off since Henry headed for TLC. Flamini worked hard - seemed to like that central role. Gilberto, despite his vocal critics, is club captain in all but name. Saved Phillipe's Swiss bacon on a couple of occasions. Wished they'd put on Walcott when 1-0 up in order to push Chelsea back.

Now, sort out the small team problem. Lose to Wigan on Wednesday and it's back to square 1.
Title: from arseblog
Post by: ONeill on December 11, 2006, 10:15:28 PM
QuoteA well earned point yesterday against Chelsea could have been even better but for Michael Essien's amazing equaliser, his equally amazing miss and the woodwork.

When we took the lead through the hard-working Mathieu Flamini there were just over 10 minutes to go and you thought we could hang on but there was just no legislating for a goal as good as Essien's. Sure, Hleb was fouled in the build up, and fouled by Cuntley ****, but these things happen. The goal sparked Chelsea into life and they could have won it twice in the last couple of minutes. First Essien hit the bar from less than 4 yards when a corner landed right at his feet and then Frank Lampard hit the post when Jens Lehmann spilled Robben's tame shot. On TV they spoke about Flamini getting a touch but I couldn't see that.

RvP celebrates with the FlamsterTo be fair we could have gone ahead after Essien's goal when Alexander Hleb lashed the ball wildly over the bar from inside the box when a simple placed shot would have done. The Sun reports Arsene Wenger, who was furious at the miss, saying "He always does that!".

Mourinho said afterwards that Arsenal showed no ambition to win the game but the man is on a wind up. Sure, we played a 4-5-1 but we've won big games with that formation before and given how young our team was it made sense. Adebayor was really good up front and worked very hard and in midfield we had to make up the numbers against quality like Essien, Makelele and Ballack. To have gone gung-ho to try and win would have been madness and Gilberto had an outstanding game providing the cover to the back four. For Mourinho to suggest there was some kind of co-operation between Arsene Wenger and Alex Ferguson to ensure Chelsea dropped points just shows how far removed from the real world he is.

Defensively we were a bit dodgy at times though. Philippe Senderos had the most nervy 20 minutes I've ever seen from him before settling into the game and when Arjen Robben was brought on he skinned Eboue at least three times. Actually, he didn't have to do too much because Eboue was nowhere to be seen at least twice. He is a big worry defensively. Jens Lehmann could have cost us the game at the end and he seemed more interested in trying to wind up Didier Drogba.

I hope both of them, and remember they're 14-15 stone men of 6′2″ or 6′3″, look back at the ridiculous incident in which they got booked and feel suitably ashamed. Drogba throwing himself to the ground from the slightest shove by Lehmann was pathetic and Lehmann's leap when Drogba gave him a bit of a shoulder charge was just as bad. I worry a bit about Jens now. The World Cup was a massive motivational factor for him, he's firmly ensconsed as Germany's number one and although he's a professional and a good one at that we're starting to see things creep back into his game that I thought he'd cut out.

Of course the game was hyped up because of Ashley Cole, introduced by the Chelsea MC as 'the best left back in world'. Good job he wasn't trying to inflame an already tense situation, eh? Arsenal fans sang their songs about him and threw the fake £20 notes. Chelsea fans responded by singing about our manager wanting to have sex with children. Pure class and where is the condemnation in today's newspapers or on the TV yesterday? Whatever you do don't throw a small piece of paper and anyone who brings an inflatable mobile phone is likely to be arrested but 40,000 people can sing a despicable, vile song without so much as a word from anyone. It's truly pathetic.

Hats off to Cesc Fabregas who refused to shake Cole's hand which apparently sparked a bit of a ruckus in the tunnel in which Robin van Persie was also involved. Well done, lads. I wouldn't shake that little ****'s hand either. It's good to see he's gotten into the swing of things at Chelsea which means he's always in the referee's face moaning and complaining. John Terry is an absolute disgrace the way he tries to intimidate the officials week in week out. It was hilarious watching them moan when Cole was booked for scything down Hleb trying to say that Senderos should have been booked for a previous foul on Drogba. Senderos' foul was a bit of obstruction, Cole chopped down Hleb in full flight, the little ****. Hardly the same thing but Terry, obviously under instruction from his manager, objects to every decision the referee makes to try and gain some advantage later in the game. He is the perfect example of why football should follow the example of rugby when it comes to referees.

Afterwards Arsene Wenger said:

    The quality of our performance and our team spirit was absolutely tremendous. When you look at their age, what they did today was sensational.

On the TV they mentioned the average age of Chelsea's outfield players was 29. Arsenal's was 23. That is a big gap in terms of experience and while Chelsea had chances so did we and we weren't overawed in any way. As the manager rightly pointed out as well Chelsea had last weekend off as well so that is a factor. While it was a blow to concede an equaliser so late and we rode our luck a bit in the last few minutes a draw was no less than we deserved and overall it was a fair result.

Hopefully we can take that kind of spirit and performance to Wigan on Wednesday night. If we play like that, with the same spirit and character, we can get a result, no problem. Our problem this season though has not been games like Chelsea, it's been games like Wigan, so this will be one to watch closely.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 11, 2006, 10:21:18 PM
I've followed Amy's career since she was a young Arsenal ladette. She wrote this on Sunday morning in the Observer:

Cole better off in blue as Arsenal fret over back four


Ashley Cole faces his old team-mates for the first time and while Jose Mourinho can purr over his impervious back four, Arsene Wenger, whose defence have an average age of just 21, has plenty to worry about. Amy Lawrence reports

Sunday December 10, 2006
The Observer


Far be it for anyone to second guess the emotions of a man who virtually crashed his car at the idea of a pay rise to only £2.8million per year, but when Ashley Cole lines up against his old brotherhood for the first time this afternoon, one thing he is bound to feel is considerably more secure than the men he left behind. And not just financially.

Glancing along his back four the first face he will see is John Terry - Premiership establishment, England captain, hard as they come, backbone of the champions, and king of Jose Mourinho's 'untouchables'. Further along is Ricardo Carvalho and then Geremi, two solid and wise defenders who are both at their peak age of 28.

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Did he do the right thing? Was it all worth it? In that split second before kick-off when Cole sizes up the rest of his defensive unit, he will feel justified. Unlike Arsenal, nobody ever analyses how Chelsea will cope if somebody is missing from the equation because there are other competent cogs waiting to slot into the machine.

Down at the other end of the pitch, four of the boys Cole shared a dressing room with not so long ago will also be looking across at each other for a little bit of last-minute encouragement. With an average age of 21, and fewer than 100 Premiership appearances between them, there can seldom have been a less experienced defence fielded for a game between two of the top sides. Arsene Wenger is pinning his faith in Emmanuel Eboue, Johan Djourou, Philippe Senderos and Gael Clichy to handle 13 stones of pure Ivorian hitman. It may not be a pretty sight.

They must also contend with Andriy Shevchenko, who is aiming to take his place among the group of Mourinho's guaranteed picks. 'When I am fit I will be there too,' he said. 'Having no rest after the World Cup and having to change country, culture and team was a big pressure. It is natural to have problems adapting. I spoke a lot with Jose and I have a lot of respect for him. I have never thought once about going back to Milan.'

For the third season running, Wenger has had his plans seriously spoiled by defensive disruption and the Premiership challenge has quickly fizzed out, so there is a pattern here. In 2004-2005 he lost confidence in Jens Lehmann, dropping him for reserve keeper Manuel Almunia with miserable consequences. In 2005-2006 he used 26 different defensive combinations as Sol Campbell went walkabout, Cole was broodingly absent and Lauren needed long-term rehabilitation. And now this.

Inwardly, Wenger may be cursing that this most challenging of away fixtures takes place now. One week before or after and he would have at least had either Kolo Toure or William Gallas available. But outwardly, the Arsenal manager has no option but to argue that this could be the making of his young defence.

The focus of attention will inevitably be on the Swiss international pairing in the middle, particularly as Senderos has in previous encounters with Chelsea displayed a pathological fear of Didier Drogba. 'Those experiences affected him, of course,' Wenger admitted. 'But since then Philippe since has gone through a whole Champions League campaign well where he faced some tough opponents like Zlatan Ibrahimovic and David Trezeguet. Drogba will see a different Senderos now. He's a strong character, resilient, highly motivated and dedicated and I feel there will also be Swiss complicity. Djourou and him will support each other.'

Wenger also anticipates a big performance from Cole's replacement, Clichy, who has discovered that being understudy is easy compared to the main billing. 'This is a good challenge for him because he will be compared to his role model,' said Wenger. 'Gael has the potential to be as good as him and after a year out he is doing amazingly.'

Eboue is under the spotlight for different reasons. After a tussle last weekend with Robbie Keane, the Ivorian right-back with a liking for theatricals was told to cut out the diving by his manager. 'We had a chat about that and we don't want him to do that at all,' Wenger confirmed. 'He is a player who does everything at full speed and sometimes these players can be unbalanced easier than a player at normal speed. But we don't want him to exaggerate and he does not want to either.'

Chelsea have failed to score only once this season and logic suggests corners will be a key factor, given Chelsea's success from and Arsenal's terror of the inswinging set piece. 'Part of the game will be decided there, so the best way is not to concede any corners,' Wenger said brightly. Well, there's a first time for everything.

Wenger confesses that organising the back four is not his speciality. 'The defensive side is not my favourite part, no. When I arrived here, I had Lee Dixon, Nigel Winterburn, Steve Bould, Tony Adams and Martin Keown; they were all 30 plus. But I can show you pictures of Tony Adams at 21 and you see him again at 31 and he is not the same player. He made mistakes at 21 that you would say today of our players, it's horrendous. It is all part of the experience.'

Simply surviving Stamford Bridge, where Chelsea have never lost a league game under Mourinho, is not in Wenger's mind. Really? 'I just want us to win the game. I don't care if we are first to beat Chelsea or not. What is important to me is to close the gap between us. We have a good opportunity. In a big game, I believe 100 per cent my players can deliver. They are fearless and I want them to show that.'

Could that have the same psychological impact as when Manchester United abruptly ended Arsenal's 49-game unbeaten run? 'I feel still a bit bitter about the way that ended,' Wenger lamented. 'We want to do it in a different way.'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on December 11, 2006, 10:48:22 PM
very encouraged by y'days preformance although rode our luck a few times. thought Gilberto was immense, if im being honest i think he would make a better club captain than henry hes seems to revel in the role and gives great leadership to the younger players. also thought clichy was the best left full back on show.djourou was very solid an excellent prospect. as for senderos i dont think hes gonna cut it.
arsenals problem is they cant raise themselves for the games against the likes of watford and shef utd. more than ne thing esle this is to down to inexperience. next season will be a different prospect!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggysego on December 12, 2006, 12:01:57 PM
Change the name of this thread. I keep forgetting and come in, thinking it's the Goonies Thread. God I love that film!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 12, 2006, 12:23:30 PM
QuoteChange the name of this thread. I keep forgetting and come in, thinking it's the Goonies Thread. God I love that film!

  ::)
Title: BBC STATS
Post by: ONeill on December 12, 2006, 10:46:53 PM
WIGAN ATHLETIC are looking for a place in the top half, and Arsenal a spot in the top three, going into this midweek clash at the JJB. Both clubs are coming off 1-1 away draws at the weekend - the Latics at Middlesbrough, the Gunners at Chelsea.

Paul Jewell's men have recovered from a run of one win from their opening eight matches in League and Cup, by picking up five victories from the last nine.

This is the fifth time Wigan will have faced Arsenal in League and Cup. Their only victory to date was 1-0 in the semi-final of last season's Carling Cup. They were two places and two points above the Gunners when they went into their first ever League fixture against them in this corresponding match last season, but the Londoners put paid to Wigan's nine-match unbeaten Premiership run, and gained their first away victory of the season.

ARSENAL play their game in hand on the other contenders chasing the top two, and victory here would put them in pole position in the race for Champions League qualifying round spots, assuming the top two places have already been filled.

Arsene Wenger's side are averaging one goal per point (26 goals, 26 points).

The Gunners 'doubled' the Latics last time around - the first ever season the pair found themselves in the same division together. It was 2-3 in this identical fixture, and 4-2 at Highbury. Thierry Henry bagged the ninth hat-trick of his career in Arsenal's last ever fixture at their former home.

REFEREE

Rob Styles (Waterlooville, Hampshire)

SEQUENCES/RECENT FORM

WIGAN ATHLETIC
Club stats
Fixtures
11th 22 points
Highest achievable after Saturday's matches: 8th
Lowest could fall: 11th

1. Won one of the last five Premiership matches.

2. Won and lost League matches in equal measure so far this season (won six, lost six, drawn four).

3. Conceded the opening goal in four top flight contests. Only Chelsea have done better, allowing only Manchester United and Arsenal to score first against them.

4. Effectively dropped more points from winning positions than any other club in the Premiership (13). They lost home to Manchester United and away to Blackburn and Tottenham and drew, home to Watford and away to Middlesbrough, having led in all five games.

5. Three points worse off than at this identical stage in their first Premiership campaign last season, when they had 28 points after the first 17 games.

6. Played fewer fixtures this season than any other Premier League club (17).

7. Scored more goals in the first five minutes of Premiership matches this season than any other club (four).

8. Manchester United and Liverpool are the only clubs to have left the JJB with maximum points so far this season.

9. Scored 10 goals and conceded 10 in home League games this term, and hold the highest average of Premiership goals-per-game conceded at home (1.43).

10. This is the first of three consecutive home League fixtures before Christmas. Sheffield United and Chelsea visit the JJB after this.

ARSENAL
Club stats
Fixtures
6th 26 points
Highest achievable after Saturday's matches: 3rd
Lowest could realistically fall: 6th

1. Won one of the last five League fixtures.

2. Netted in each of the last six League matches, and failed to score in one of the last 14.

3. The current tally of 26 points after 16 matches is on a par with Arsenal's record at this same stage last season, when they eventually finished fourth.

4. On the Premiership's longest run since a goalless draw of 34 games.

5. Hold a 100% Premiership record when keeping clean sheets (won six of six).

6. Gained seven Premiership points from losing positions - no club has gained more. The Gunners showed their resilience by trailing then winning at Charlton and drawing home to Aston Villa, Middlesbrough, Everton and Newcastle.

7. Won all four League games in which leading at half time, against Watford (h), Reading (a), Liverpool (h) and Tottenham (h).

8. Arsenal have three more fixtures before Christmas. They host Portsmouth, before a Carling Cup tie away to Liverpool, and a Premiership clash away to Blackburn.

KEY PLAYER NOTES/POTENTIAL MILESTONES

WIGAN ATHLETIC
Squad profiles

Henri CAMARA is Wigan's top scorer with six goals, all scored in the Premiership.

Paul SCHARNER is the only player to have been on the field for every minute of the Latics' League and Cup matches this season.

Wigan have two remaining Premiership ever-presents. Scharner and Emmerson BOYCE have been on the field for every minute of the Latics' League fixtures.

ARSENAL
Squad profiles

Thierry HENRY and Robin VAN PERSIE are Arsenal's joint top scorers with seven goals each. Henry leads the way for the club in the Premiership with six goals.

Henry scored five goals in the two Premiership fixtures with Wigan last season.

When he next plays, Henry will be making his 250th Premiership appearance. He'll become the seventh foreign player and the second Frenchman to reach the milestone. The other also wore an Arsenal shirt, Patrick Vieira.

If he plays, Mathieu FLAMINI wil be making his 100th appearance for the Gunners.

LAST SEASON'S CORRESPONDING GAME

Wigan Athletic 2-3 Arsenal
19 November 2005 - Ref: Graham Poll
Wigan scorers: Camara 28, Bullard 45
Arsenal scorers: Van Persie 11, Henry 21, 41

HEAD TO HEAD TOTALS

Home and away
League: Wigan 0 wins, Arsenal 2, Draws 0
Prem: Wigan 0 wins, Arsenal 2, Draws 0

at Wigan only
League: Wigan 0 wins, Arsenal 1, Draws 0
Prem: Wigan 0 wins, Arsenal 1, Draws 0
Title: Wigan 0 Arse 1
Post by: ONeill on December 13, 2006, 10:47:59 PM
That's more like it. A scrappy win. Wenger rested Fabregas, Hleb and Van Persie in favour of Walcott, Baptista and Freddie. Walcott is still very raw around the edges, often taking the wrong option when tied up. However, his performance improved in the 2nd half and looked the most dangerous player on the field for a while. Baptista is still lacking match practise. Some nice touches and played a great through-ball for Walcott but not sure if he's gelling with the Arsenal passing-style. Loves to run in a straight line and shoot from distance....very Chelsea like. I thought Adebayor was excellent again, despite his misses. Ran all night and took the game to Wigan, although being a lone striker, you'd expect him to. He's definitely revelling in Henry's absence. Toure made a couple of crucial clearances yet the winning of this match occurred around the 75th minute when Wenger brought Fabregas on. The lad oozes class and seems to have grown a set of hardy balls too, judging by his tackle just before the goal. His pass to Adebayor was classy. Adebayor continues his remarkable run - he scores, Arsenal win and keep a clean sheet. All-in-all, hopefully the start of a great run...home to Pompey (on RTE) and Blackburn in the league next, followed by 2 away games before the New Year (Watford and Sheff Utd). Tonight needs to be the start of a 15-point run. Couldn't care less about the League Cup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 14, 2006, 05:55:50 PM
Great News!

Morrow Takes Over At Dallas 11/12/06

FC Dallas General Manager Michael Hitchcock announced today that former Arsenal (England) and Dallas (MLS) defender Steve Morrow will become the fourth head coach in team history. Morrow, who was an assistant coach with Dallas the last two seasons, becomes the first former Dallas player to be selected the team's head coach.

"Steve possesses all the characteristics which I feel are necessary to lead FC Dallas," said Hitchcock. "He brings a great background which not only includes success with one of the top clubs in the world, but also first hand understanding of what MLS is all about, having also played and coached in MLS. He's familiar with the team, the players, and I feel has the understanding and knowledge of what it will take to win championships."

The 36 year-old Morrow began his professional playing career at the age of 17, when he was signed by Arsenal of the English Premiership. After being loaned to various clubs, he made his Gunners' debut at the end of the 1991-92 season. The next year, he became a mainstay on the team that won the 1993 FA Cup and '93 League Cup, in which he scored the game-winning goal in the 2-1 victory over Sheffield Wednesday. He also played in the '94 European Cup Winner's Cup 1-0 win over Italian-side Parma, as well as the '95 Cup Winner's Cup final, which Arsenal lost 2-1 to Spain's Real Zaragosa.

After playing one season under current Arsenal head coach Arsène Wenger, he joined Queen's Park Rangers in 1997. Morrow played in 92 games in his four years at Rangers before coming to play for Dallas in 2002. In his two years as a defender with Dallas, he scored three goals in 41 regular season games and once in three playoff games. All four of his goals in MLS were against the Colorado Rapids.

"I'm thrilled and honored to coach what I consider to be the leading organization in MLS," said Morrow. "I believe we have an extremely talented group of players and with a few adjustments I think we can achieve great things."

Morrow, who earned 40 caps with the Northern Ireland National Team, was originally hired by Dallas as an assistant coach on Feb. 3, 2004, though he was forced to resign in late May of that year due to personal reasons. He returned to the club on Jan. 27, 2005 and has been the first assistant coach in each of the past two seasons. He acquired his UEFA "A" coaching license and also received a degree in Sports and Fitness Science from Luton University in England in 2002.

Morrow becomes the 51st coach in MLS history and the 11th that has previously played in Major League Soccer, with recently hired Kansas City head coach Curt Onalfo being the 10th. Six of the nine previous former players that coached MLS teams finished a particular season as interim coaches, but only two of those six were later named MLS head coaches. The three other former players that became MLS head coaches did so at the start of a season and have accounted for four of the last six MLS Cups Championships: Frank Yallop (San Jose – 2001, 2003); Peter Nowak (D.C. United - 2004); and Dominic Kinnear (Houston - 2006). Morrow joins Onalfo as the two most recent former players that will begin a season as an MLS head coach.

Morrow is married to Fiona and has three children, Jonathan, Sophie, and Scarlett.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 14, 2006, 08:51:25 PM
Wasn't he the guy that got injured by his team mates after the FA cup final?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 14, 2006, 08:58:47 PM
Yes, Tony Adams, of the Equus asinus variety, threw our Steve to the ground from his shoulders before the team collected their winners' medals after beating Sheff Wed in the League Cup final. Poor Steve never walked the steps that day, even though he'd scored the winner.
Title: Arse 2 Pompey 2
Post by: ONeill on December 17, 2006, 07:05:55 PM
Another disappointing result. Forget that Arsenal were 2-0 down, you need to be beating Portsmouth at home. After what happened today, it was a chance to make the gap a little easier on the eye (although a more realistic analysis is that it allowed other Champions' League pretenders to close in). Why Wenger didn't start the on-fire Adebayor is beyond me. I don't buy the groin excuse - he seemed ok when he came on. I'd say this boob contributed to Wenger's irritation at half-time. He is swiftly losing his 'cool-customer' tag.

As for the game, I thought Walcott (although tiring late on) is close to a starting berth. Ljungberg simply hasn't got it what he had anymore and it's getting to the stage that Theo is more of a threat to opposition than Freddie. Van Persie, well, he needs to convert more. How long do we wait for him to flower? Despite a few defensive lapses, Clichy tried his heart out towards the end, taking the game to Pompey when others were waiting for something to happen. Aliadiere - never had it, never will.

On to Anfield on Tuesday and I can't see our reserves putting it up to a relatively strong Liverpool line-up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 19, 2006, 08:56:52 PM
Wenger shows Rafa some Travolta.

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42371000/jpg/_42371095_wenger220.jpg)
Title: Arse 6 Blackb 2
Post by: ONeill on December 23, 2006, 10:31:33 PM
I received a text yesterday from a brother saying that the Gooners were going to rack up a high score. It was always going to happen sooner rather than later. Arsenal, in those last 20 minutes, playing absolutely orgasmic football, bordering on arrogance. Savage's swipe at Cesc down by the flag typified how the Rovers' players were feeling.

Something that surely is not resting easy on Wenger is Henry's return. If Arsenal, and a big if, can gain some form of consistency (it's not beyond the realms of Arsenal possibility that Watford and Sheff Utd will turn them over over the holidays) then who does he drop? An on-fire Adebayor or Van Persie who is getting the games he needs to confirm his massive talent. Gallas' return is vital. The defence is not breeding confidence.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 23, 2006, 11:29:35 PM
Bet ye Wenger's thinking of selling Henry?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 24, 2006, 08:51:35 PM
Some festive showboating:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDh3cDfPt3U&mode=related&search=
Title: Watford 1 Arse 2
Post by: ONeill on December 28, 2006, 09:55:32 AM
Too close for comfort. Adebayor's injury is worrying though. Baptista up front alongside Van Winkle? Walcott is impressing more and more and should rake up about 25-30 appearances this season. Captain Gilberto having the season of his career.
Title: Sheff 1 Arse 0
Post by: ONeill on December 30, 2006, 10:52:47 PM
Same old story. Head north of Birmingham and Arsenal crumble. Forget the injuries and the 'youth' factor. Until Arsenal replave Vieira's balls, they'll turn into a Liverpool.
Title: Re: Sheff 1 Arse 0
Post by: gawa316 on December 31, 2006, 12:44:34 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 30, 2006, 10:52:47 PM
Same old story. Head north of Birmingham and Arsenal crumble. Forget the injuries and the 'youth' factor. Until Arsenal replave Vieira's balls, they'll turn into a Liverpool.

What Champion's League Winners?....Doubt it ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on December 31, 2006, 12:47:47 AM
Ye hoors had to win at OT though! :-[
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on December 31, 2006, 06:51:50 AM
And a GREAT pleasure was taken at it.

;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 01, 2007, 10:19:19 PM
Anyone do French O Level? - http://www.dailymotion.com/Miss-Lili/video/xv65s_henry-ds-telefoot-by-goals-miss-lil

Meanwhile, seriously depleted squad tomorrow.

OUT: Theo Walcott, Alexander Hleb, Emmanuel Eboue, Emmanuel Adebayor, Abou Diaby, Thierry Henry, William Gallas, Johan Djourou and Freddie Ljungberg.

FIT: Lehmann, Hoyte, Toure, Senderos, Clichy, Fabregas, Gilberto, Rosicky, Baptista, van Persie, Almunia, Flamini, Aliadiere, Song, Lauren, Denilson.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2007, 08:27:58 AM
Hoyte, Senderos, Almunia, Flamini, Aliadiere and Song

These guys to me just aren't good enough, Christ even average players like John O'Shea or Darren Fletcher would be better than these guys, Aliadiere's performance on Monday was nothing short of shocking, maybe Stokes or Bentender should be given a chance...

Wenger is very myopic sometimes and it is starting to annoy...
Title: Gunners 4 Charlton 0
Post by: ONeill on January 02, 2007, 09:42:09 PM
A surprise starting place for Henry pays dividends. He scores the first from the spot, sets up Hoyte for his, and wins the penalty for RVP to convert. RVP completed the the scoring with a dinky finish. A nice way to start the year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on January 02, 2007, 10:06:06 PM
Glad that Henry was able to prove his fitness as the transfer window opens!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 03, 2007, 07:06:19 PM
Wouldn't mind cashing in......you could do a lot with 20-25m!

In all seriousness, it is noticeable that Henry has lost that seering pace - and has done so since the Madrid game. A massive pity if that's the case - TH at full pelt was orgasmic.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on January 04, 2007, 09:28:20 AM
Don't know whether Henry has disimproved or is just moody but I agree that Arsenal would be best served by moving him on for a substantial fee.
Title: arsenal.com
Post by: ONeill on January 04, 2007, 08:33:56 PM
Eboue ready to return for FA Cup trip to Liverpool

Liverpool v Arsenal
FA Cup Round 3
Anfield
Sat, Jan 6, 2007, 5.15pm



By Chris Harris

Slowly but surely, Arsenal's injury problems are clearing up.

Thierry Henry returned to action against Charlton on Tuesday and Emmanuel Eboue is the latest name to leave the treatment room and rejoin the first-team squad. The Ivorian has missed the last four games with an ankle injury but is fit for this weekend's FA Cup tie at Liverpool.

Arsène Wenger had positive news about a number of the Club's walking wounded when he spoke exclusively to Arsenal TV Online on Thursday afternoon.

"The news is quite good at the moment," said the Arsenal manager. "We have no new injuries from the Charlton game and we have Eboue available for Saturday.

"Julio Baptista might come back too and William Gallas is very close [to a return]. The news of Theo Walcott's back is very good. He and Gallas are possibles for the Carling Cup [on Tuesday].

"Lauren is ready to play. He is looking from week to week better and better in training. Emmanuel Adebayor should be back for the Blackburn game."

Freddie Ljungberg is also nearing full fitness while Abou Diaby took part in his first full training session on Thursday since suffering a fractured and dislocated ankle last May. The young Frenchman's return delighted his manager.

"It is great news, he had his first complete training session today," said Wenger. "He is so happy to play and his performance was very positive."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 04, 2007, 08:37:49 PM
No Fear lads

# Arsenal and Liverpool have contested three FA Cup Finals, Arsenal winning two in 1950 and 1971, and Liverpool winning one, in 2001.
# Arsenal have never lost at Anfield in an FA Cup tie. The Gunners drew 0-0 there in 1923 and won 2-0 in 1936.
# The two teams contested a marathon four-game Semi-Final in 1980, Arsenal finally winning 1-0 with a goal from Brian Talbot at Highfield Road.
# Arsenal have won the FA Cup 10 times to Liverpool's seven.
# The teams last met in the competition five years ago when a Dennis Bergkamp goal gave us a 1-0 win at Highbury. Liverpool's Jamie Carragher was sent off later in the game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on January 04, 2007, 09:05:15 PM
QuoteNo Fear lads

Worth a bet then O'Neill?  Wonder what the odds are?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on January 04, 2007, 09:48:07 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 04, 2007, 08:37:49 PM
No Fear lads

# Arsenal and Liverpool have contested three FA Cup Finals, Arsenal winning two in 1950 and 1971, and Liverpool winning one, in 2001.
# Arsenal have never lost at Anfield in an FA Cup tie. The Gunners drew 0-0 there in 1923 and won 2-0 in 1936.
# The two teams contested a marathon four-game Semi-Final in 1980, Arsenal finally winning 1-0 with a goal from Brian Talbot at Highfield Road.
# Arsenal have won the FA Cup 10 times to Liverpool's seven.
# The teams last met in the competition five years ago when a Dennis Bergkamp goal gave us a 1-0 win at Highbury. Liverpool's Jamie Carragher was sent off later in the game

Why the highlighting? Is what happened in the 1930s relevant given that Arsenal haven't played an FA Cup tie at Anfield since? Liverpool hadn't beaten United in the Cup since the 1920s, before last season's tie. ;)

Carragher's sending off was the time he threw the coin back into the crowd wasn't it?

I remember being in tears as a wee lad, watching that third replay in 1980. That must have been the longest cup tie ever.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 04, 2007, 09:52:53 PM
Quote from: J70 on January 04, 2007, 09:48:07 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 04, 2007, 08:37:49 PM
No Fear lads


I remember being in tears as a wee lad, watching that third replay in 1980. That must have been the longest cup tie ever.


Not as many tears as i circa 2001. Robbery.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 05, 2007, 09:55:43 AM
QuoteNot as many tears as i circa 2001. Robbery.

Damn thieving scouse feckers, Henchoz should have sent off for that blatent hand-ball. Michael Owens Coup de Grace and has done nothing since.....

Need to score first to win, Liverpool finish games for strong wouldn't be confident if it's scoreless with 20 minutes left. With Fabregas suspended it will be interesting to see who plays central midfield...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2007, 07:31:13 PM
Good result against a one dimensional Liverpool side, once we got the first goal the result was never in doubt. Rosicky and Helb played very well, might be hope for Senderos yet  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Elias on January 06, 2007, 07:46:18 PM
Good win today from the lads, Henry's goal was a joy, he skinned Carragher alive and hung him out to dry.

Rosicky, take a bow, great finishes both.

Arsenal wobbled after conceding but out defense was excellent today, and Almumia showed good form too considering he's had little or no first team action this season.

Hopefully the goon's can go on from here and finish the season strongly  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 06, 2007, 08:19:27 PM
Fairly run-of-the-mill victory over the scousers. That's 6 goals scored in 2 games against them this year. Hopefully we'll start to see the best of Rosicky now.

When teams come out to play against Arsenal, the Gunners thrive. Henry was ropey enough and was on the verge of substitution when the goal went in.

Never lost at Anfield in the Cup - the spirit remains!!

Couldn't give a toss about Tuesday though Liverpool are sure to go all out after today. Silverware and all that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on January 06, 2007, 08:22:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 06, 2007, 08:19:27 PM
Fairly run-of-the-mill victory over the scousers. That's 6 goals scored in 2 games against them this year. Hopefully we'll start to see the best of Rosicky now.

When teams come out to play against Arsenal, the Gunners thrive. Henry was ropey enough and was on the verge of substitution when the goal went in.

Never lost at Anfield in the Cup - the spirit remains!!

Couldn't give a toss about Tuesday though Liverpool are sure to go all out after today. Silverware and all that.

I doubt if most Liverpool fans give a toss about it either, especially after today. If the reserves beat Arsenal reserves, then fair enough, but I don't think many will take any pleasure out of a victory in the league cup given what happened today. Anyway, its not as if this Arsenal team are a sure bet for any silverware either, so I wouldn't get too smug.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2007, 08:28:09 PM
QuoteAnyway, its not as if this Arsenal team are a sure bet for any silverware either, so I wouldn't get too smug.

Clear off J70, this is our delusional thread, you have your own we don't need any realists spoiling our fun. If only the goons could play Liverpool every week   ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on January 06, 2007, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2007, 08:28:09 PM
QuoteAnyway, its not as if this Arsenal team are a sure bet for any silverware either, so I wouldn't get too smug.

Clear off J70, this is our delusional thread, you have your own we don't need any realists spoiling our fun. If only the goons could play Liverpool every week   ;)

I'm sorry, I'll leave you to it!

I'm off to dream of All Irelands for Donegal!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 06, 2007, 08:41:04 PM
Quote from: J70 on January 06, 2007, 08:22:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 06, 2007, 08:19:27 PM
Fairly run-of-the-mill victory over the scousers. That's 6 goals scored in 2 games against them this year. Hopefully we'll start to see the best of Rosicky now.

When teams come out to play against Arsenal, the Gunners thrive. Henry was ropey enough and was on the verge of substitution when the goal went in.

Never lost at Anfield in the Cup - the spirit remains!!

Couldn't give a toss about Tuesday though Liverpool are sure to go all out after today. Silverware and all that.

I doubt if most Liverpool fans give a toss about it either, especially after today. If the reserves beat Arsenal reserves, then fair enough, but I don't think many will take any pleasure out of a victory in the league cup given what happened today. Anyway, its not as if this Arsenal team are a sure bet for any silverware either, so I wouldn't get too smug.

Jaysus your touchy, J70. Where's the smugness? If Liverpool had beaten Arsenal today, we'd have went all-out for victory on Tuesday, and wanted it.

Saying that, it is great playing Liverpool though. They're even softer than Arsenal! My big fear though is that we'll turn into Liverpool and go a generation without a league title. Must be awful. God forbid.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 06, 2007, 09:22:32 PM
Looks like there'll be no new faces:

"I am not in for Darren Bent," said Wenger. "With the transfer window I am like somebody who is watching the rain outside from inside the window. They all hurry up out there and I am sitting here watching it with pleasure."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on January 06, 2007, 09:49:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 06, 2007, 08:41:04 PM
Quote from: J70 on January 06, 2007, 08:22:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 06, 2007, 08:19:27 PM
Fairly run-of-the-mill victory over the scousers. That's 6 goals scored in 2 games against them this year. Hopefully we'll start to see the best of Rosicky now.

When teams come out to play against Arsenal, the Gunners thrive. Henry was ropey enough and was on the verge of substitution when the goal went in.

Never lost at Anfield in the Cup - the spirit remains!!

Couldn't give a toss about Tuesday though Liverpool are sure to go all out after today. Silverware and all that.

I doubt if most Liverpool fans give a toss about it either, especially after today. If the reserves beat Arsenal reserves, then fair enough, but I don't think many will take any pleasure out of a victory in the league cup given what happened today. Anyway, its not as if this Arsenal team are a sure bet for any silverware either, so I wouldn't get too smug.

Jaysus your touchy, J70. Where's the smugness? If Liverpool had beaten Arsenal today, we'd have went all-out for victory on Tuesday, and wanted it.

Saying that, it is great playing Liverpool though. They're even softer than Arsenal! My big fear though is that we'll turn into Liverpool and go a generation without a league title. Must be awful. God forbid.

Sorry O'Neill, misunderstood. I stiil don't think Liverpool will be too bothered about the league cup, nor do I think Arsenal would have been had the roles been reversed. A Liverpool victory on Tuesday would be fairly hollow.

Were you not an Arsenal supporter before '89? That was their first since '71!

And yes, its not great not having won the title in 16 years and counting. The marvellous thing about sport though is that there is always hope that a change is around the corner! I still think Benitez is the man to do it, but we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 06, 2007, 10:04:40 PM
Arsenal's line-up on Tues may be stronger than usual for this competition. A lot of fellas returning from injury should get a run out - Gallas, Adebayor, Fabregas, Lauren, Ljungberg with non-starters like Baptista, Walcott, Aliadiere and Denilson getting a game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 09, 2007, 02:18:02 PM
Squad for tonight.....

2. Abou Diaby
4. Francesc Fabregas
5. Kolo Toure
9. Julio Baptista
15. Denilson
17. Alex Song
20. Johan Djourou
21. Mart Poom
24. Manuel Almunia
30. Jeremie Aliadiere
31. Justin Hoyte
32. Theo Walcott
33. Matthew Connolly
40. Henry Lansbury (This kid has only turned 16)  :o
43. Mark Randall
45. Armand Traore

Looks like Freddie and maybe Lauren are on the way, Freddie could go to West Ham for cash plus Reo-Coker..

Have no faith in Jeremie Aliadiere and hopefully he'll be sold....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2007, 09:02:46 PM
Poor team out tonight.

Almunia
# 31 Hoyte - age 22
# 05 Toure - age 25
# 20 Djourou - age 19
# 45 Traore - age 18
# 32 Walcott - age 17
# 04 Fabregas - age 19
# 17 Song Billong  - age 19
# 15 Denilson - age 18
# 09 Julio Baptista - age 25
# 30 Aliadiere - age 23

4-1 up though. Liverpool, with  Hyypia, Gerrard, Luis Garcia, Fowler, Alonso and Bellamy playing should peg that back though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Guillem2 on January 09, 2007, 09:12:45 PM
Now it's 1-5! Unbelievable!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2007, 09:19:14 PM
Wenger should give the 15 year old a run out.

2-5. Will age count against Arsenal in the closing stages?

Diaby, age 20, on for Walcott. Good to see him back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2007, 09:46:25 PM
Connolly, age 19, on. 6-3. Good run-out for Baptista. Would still drop him though for Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2007, 09:54:08 PM
A good run out all-round but not overly impressed with anyone beyond what we already know. Baptista's late runs are very Ljungberg circa 2002 and something to work on. Still a bit beefy. Disappointed conceding 3 goals at Anfield although Gerrards was a special.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on January 10, 2007, 08:57:01 AM
It was good to see Alliadiare having a good game last night. maybe Arsenal could get a few extra pounds for him if they sold him now during the transfer window.
With Rosicky, Hleb, Baptista & Walcott all challenging for wide mid-field positions, Ljundberg's days with Arsenal must nearly be over. They might even sell him now as he's not cup tied for the FA Cup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 10, 2007, 10:11:39 AM
unbellivable result. With Baptista scoring 4 he deserves a start on saturday against blackburn. I know the liverpool defence were not the best and blackburn will be a stiffer test. But if you score 4 it will do your confidence no good to be dropped
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on January 14, 2007, 09:52:13 AM
Great result against a battling Blackburn team who gave it a go, which was eventually their undoing! Arsenal on the break looked awesome and TH14's goal was what we've come to expect of the king, absolute brilliance! Hope im not wrong but I can see us getting a big result against the scum next weekend with Cesc showing scholes and carrick how its done!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 14, 2007, 07:33:19 PM
This was an important result - breaking down the 'northern' myth that I was starting to believe, and following up two impressive cup results with an away victory in the league. Blackburn were in the best run of form they'd experienced in years so I expected a run-around. As it panned out, it was relatively comfortable and if Gilberto hadn't reacted to Savage it could've been 3 or 4-0. Pity he's out of the Manure tie this weekend. Hopefully Fabregas's injury isn't too severe. Great goals too.

Onto Manure at the Emirates. Normally dread these games but looking forward to this one. If Utd win, I'll accept them as the Real Deal (I still think they'll falter). However, i think Fergie will take a leaf out of the likes of Sheff Utd or Villa and sit back at the Emirates, taking a 0-0 or 1-1 or sneaking a breakaway goal. This is not the time for Man Utd to make a statement of footballing prowess - they'll gladly allow Arsenal 99% possession, 54 shots on goal, but still take something from the game. Fergie knows not to play swashbuckling football at Arsenal. If Utd go 1-0 up I fear the worst. They'll sit back and hit Ronaldo on the break.

Arsenal will play the way they always play, and if they score first, forcing Utd out, it could be lights out for Utd.

Should be a clinker. Bring back Keown.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 15, 2007, 05:01:02 PM
gilberto missing is big blow. He has been very good this year. Flamini will come in for him. I would be confident if gallas was back for the game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 15, 2007, 06:58:39 PM
Rather harsh article on Eboue, some of which rings true.

Eboue and the man in the mirror

QuoteThere are players, or better put - a player, currently at the club - who are a disgrace to the shirt

Emmanuel Eboue. A fantastic talent going forward no doubt, and a key man in the defence during the Champions League run last year. But an absolute disgrace to the shirt - what is with this guy?

I read an interview with a few months ago and he came across really well, so it gives me no pleasure to say this but he is a cheat and I do not want to see him in an Arsenal shirt again. I was embarrassed to watch him once again react to an imminent booking by collapsing on the floor like a child being told off by his mother.

It isn't the first time this has happened, it happened during the north London derby in December. It happened at Bolton and it's really unnecessary, he doesn't need to do it. If you've fouled someone you should be man enough to take the booking.

This is forgetting the goal he cost us by staying on the floor expecting a free kick at home to Spurs last season, and the dive in the Champions League final that ultimately brought us a goal.

It seems to me the old adage, "Remember who you are and who you represent" needs drumming into this young lad because he's making an arse of himself right now. It was great to see Justin Hoyte replace him immediately as he went down again in the Kop end penalty area.

Seems to me Hoyte's attitude is the complete opposite of Eboue's and while the consensus maybe that Hoyte has no future here, for me, it's really refreshing to see a young lad who just wants to play for the Arsenal.

At least I can't imagine Hoyte going down with imaginary injuries! I think Eboue really needs to take a look in the mirror because the speed with which he was replaced on Saturday does not bode well for his Arsenal career.

Of course, Eboue may well be injured, but for me, he's now the boy who cried wolf and we all know what happened to him, right?

http://arsenal-mania.com/articles/3103491/Eboue-and-the-man-in-the-mirror.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 16, 2007, 12:36:43 PM
Harsh but fair O'Neill, he really annoys me and like the writer above I don't think Hoyte has a future at the club but at least he's an honest committed player
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 16, 2007, 05:55:57 PM
Fair play to the fans that identify the cheats in their own club. Well done to the writer, and to other Gunners fans who have no time for this sort of thing.

The same shite rankles me with Luis Garcia at Anfield, and Chelsea fans have voiced their disapproval with Drogba in the past.

It seems as if the fans are the only ones with a real interest in driving diving out of soccer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 21, 2007, 04:30:50 PM
Eboue still at it.
Title: Gooners 2 Goons 1
Post by: muppet on January 21, 2007, 06:46:51 PM
 Let us all give thanks and praise:

Praise them (http://www.keizersberg.be/movie/alleluia.mpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 21, 2007, 07:12:41 PM
Van Persie is out for the season gents.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 21, 2007, 08:06:49 PM
VanPersie breaks 5th metatarsal (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=443097&CPID=8&clid=3&lid=4161&title=Van+Persie+blow+for+Gunners)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 21, 2007, 09:16:37 PM
Nice to do the double over the Yanks. Utd started well and it was easy to see why they were top of the league - confident passing and secure at the back. Gradually Rosicky, Hleb and Fabregas started to hold onto the ball and show why they are best at that. I thought both sides had their spells on top and a draw wouldn't have been unfair to either team. Utd lost the game around the 70th minute when they attempted to play down the clock. Instead of maintaining what they were doing they started time wasting and completely lost focus, forgetting what got them ahead in the first place. Two great finishes and a major blow in Van Persie's injury. Hopefully this is an excuse for a quick dip in the transfer market. Forget about Aliadiere.

A good day.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 21, 2007, 11:22:43 PM
Goals:

http://goonergoals.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 22, 2007, 09:35:53 AM
Fabregas was my man of the match as the game progress he was outstanding, the front pair worked their socks off. Still questions marks over Man Ure's title creditials as this was a big test they failed. Is Ronaldo the new big game bottler  :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on January 22, 2007, 09:47:13 AM
I think it was a deserved win for the Arse (as a neutral observer), Utd seemed to think they were safe after scoring and handed the Gooners the initiative (never a good move).  I thought Arsenal were very impressive going forward, and if they can get Rosicky a bit more focussed, he looks like a matchwinner.  Was impressed by the Utd. left full Evra, very attack minded and quick, though both Arsenal goals came from down his channel.  Opens the premiership up a bit, which can't be too bad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 22, 2007, 07:19:53 PM
Highbury now. Brings a tear to the eye:

http://www.kodakgallery.co.uk/Slideshow.jsp?mode=fromshare&Uc=8gmcsbl.8zta9qkl&Uy=j37cip&Ux=0&localeid=en_GB
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2007, 11:05:33 PM
Spuds v Arsenal.

Brings back good memories of 20 years ago at the same stage...in the days when Arsenal took the cup seriously! (A young Niall Quinn played)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KybcIoeM4a8
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on January 24, 2007, 12:43:42 PM
Arsene Wenger has picked a strong squad for the game at White Hart Lane. You couldnt really call it a second string with most of the out field players appearing regularly in the premiership this season.

Philippe Senderos, Alexander Hleb, Mathieu Flamini and Emmanuel Eboue come in for Johan Djourou (injured), Alex Song(international duty), Matthew Connolly and Henri Lansbury (suspended).


2. Abou Diaby
4. Francesc Fabregas
5. Kolo Toure
6. Philippe Senderos
9. Julio Baptista
13. Alexander Hleb
15. Denilson
16. Mathieu Flamini
21. Mart Poom
24. Manuel Almunia
27. Emmanuel Eboue
30. Jeremie Aliadiere
31. Justin Hoyte
32. Theo Walcott
43. Mark Randall
45. Armand Traore

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2007, 07:30:48 PM
Match delayed:

BBC


Tottenham v Arsenal
The Carling Cup semi-final between Tottenham and Arsenal has been delayed until 2015 GMT because of the Gunners late arrival at White Hart Lane.

Tottenham midfielder Teemu Tainio misses the game at White Hart Lane because of a sprained ankle.

Skipper Ledley King (bruised foot) is also out but Jermaine Jenas (ankle), Mido (groin) and Paul Stalteri (hip) have returned to full training.

Arsenal will continue to play a team of fringe and young players.

Theo Walcott should start after being rested against Manchester United but leading marksman Robin van Persie is out because of a fractured foot.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2007, 07:32:23 PM
Reason: the Arsenal kids on the bus were annoying the driver by yelling every 10 seconds "ARE WE THERE YET?"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2007, 07:37:47 PM
Did Henry bitch-slap Neville?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAtwi0_91WY&NR
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2007, 08:29:08 PM
Great start to the game. Berbatov hits the post on 5 mins. Arsenal going close on 7.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2007, 08:31:56 PM
Spurs 1-0 - Berbatov header 12 mins
Their first victory over Arsenal (albeit youth team) since 1999?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2007, 08:38:58 PM
Mmmm Spurs 2-0 Baptista OG.

This match (tie) could be over soon...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2007, 09:10:08 PM
Spurs 2 Arsenal 0 at half time

I'd actually take that score back to the Emirates. Could've been a lot worse, although Baptista had a chance at the end. The young lads are struggling to cope with a side fiercely determined to reach the final.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on January 24, 2007, 09:17:44 PM
just had to break up the Tyrone thing

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2007, 09:44:25 PM
2-1 Baptista on 64. Away goal crucial. I'd even take 3-1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2007, 09:56:59 PM
2-2 Baptista. Away goals crucial. Would even take 5-2.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on January 25, 2007, 05:34:11 AM
Its 0-0 as away goals do not count in this competition. Spurs embarrassed, but what can you expect there is such a huge gap between the top 4 and the chasing bunch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 25, 2007, 07:40:06 AM
That's odd as Arsenal went out of the competition at the semis on away goals last year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 25, 2007, 07:46:26 AM
Away goals only come into play after extra time in the second leg.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 25, 2007, 08:37:30 AM
So, Spurs have to score because of Arsenal's away goals, or they're out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 25, 2007, 09:46:03 AM
Correct
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 25, 2007, 07:19:45 PM
QuoteHamstring will keep Hleb out for 'a good four weeks'

By Richard Clarke

The injury Alex Hleb picked up at Tottenham on Wednesday night will keep him out for "a good four weeks".

The Belarus midfielder came on as a 56th-minute substitute with Arsenal trailing 2-0 and helped Arsène Wenger's side complete a stirring comeback. However he hurt his hamstring late on and was replaced himself with four minutes to go.

Jeremie Aliadiere (back) and Emmanuel Eboue (ankle) also picked up knocks at White Hart Lane. They may miss Sunday's FA Cup tie with Bolton but should be available for the return game with Tottenham next Wednesday.

However the prognosis for Robin van Persie is not so clear-cut. When the Dutchman broke a metatarsal in his right foot in Sunday, Wenger suggested the striker might be out for six weeks. He now admits that might be optimistic and suggested he could be out for as many as 10 weeks. However, when he spoke to Arsenal TV Online on Thursday, the immediate concern was Hleb.

"I think he will be out longer than I thought last night," said Wenger on Thursday afternoon. "It will be a good four weeks.

"That is the disappointing side of last night. It puts our performance into perspective. You don't want to lose players in January because, if you lose them for a long time, then their season can be over.

"We also lost Jeremie but that is a question of days. I think he will be able to play on Wednesday. Also Eboue has done his ankle again. That is only minor too and I hope he'll be fit for Sunday but if not Wednesday."

The manager could not be so optimistic about Van Persie.

"Ideally you would say six to eight weeks but as well it could be 10," he remarked. "That means April and you are close to the end of the season and you'll need to get back to your best level. I hope it will be six weeks but that is really optimistic."

Disappointing that Hleb and Van Persie will miss this crucial part of the season with the CL about the recommence. I suppose Baptista will see a bit more of the first-team action and hopefully Freddie will fill the gap left by Hleb.
Title: Arse 2 Spurs 2
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2007, 09:00:14 PM
A nervy game. 0-0, 10 mins into the 2nd. Could go any way.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2007, 09:30:42 PM
1-0. Adebayor. 10 mins left.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2007, 09:34:15 PM
1-1 Mido. Extra time looms.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2007, 09:54:15 PM
Extra time. On a knife edge. Spurs need to score.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 31, 2007, 10:03:59 PM
Who's on top? Don't have sky either! :(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 31, 2007, 10:07:59 PM
Aresnal 2 Spurs 1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2007, 10:42:00 PM
A fairly run of the mill victory today, maintaining the home record against Spurs since 1993 (When they rested Wright and Adams after beating Spurs in the FA semi).

The question is - does Arsene continue with the likes of Almunia, Hoyte, Traore, Walcott, Denilson, Diaby and Aliadiere - or play the big guns?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2007, 11:26:20 PM
Goals:

http://goonergoals.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2007, 07:59:03 AM
QuoteThe question is - does Arsene continue with the likes of Almunia, Hoyte, Traore, Walcott, Denilson, Diaby and Aliadiere - or play the big guns?

I think he has to stick with the young guns, they got the Arse to the final and deserve their chance...

Team I'd play

Almunia, Hoyte, Gallas, Toure, Traore, Walcott, Denilson, Fabregas, Diaby, Aliadiere and Adebayor. With Henry, Silva, Rosicky, Mad German and Senderos on the bench.

As an aside the Goons never looked like losing last night and Defoe and Keane just does not work as a partneship.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2007, 11:25:44 PM
Some interesting Arsenal/Liverpool footage of yore

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzhlAQgv7kE
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 05, 2007, 09:11:17 PM
Midd 1 Arse 1

Didn't see this game. Any board member report?

End of any wild title ambitions.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on February 10, 2007, 08:38:38 AM
Arsenal & MLS club agree link up 

Colorado Rapids are owned by American billionaire Stan Kroenke
Arsenal have announced a new business partnership with Major League Soccer club Colorado Rapids.
The deal is designed to build Arsenal's brand in the United States, while also helping to develop the MLS club.

"This is a very important step for Arsenal as this becomes our first venture into the US marketplace," said managing director Keith Edelman.

Colorado Rapids are owned by American billionaire Stan Kroenke's company Kroenke Sports Enterprises.

  Unless I'm completely naive it's not a takeover

Arsene Wenger

Arsenal already have a similar tie-up with Belgian side Beveren as well as an academy in the Ivory Coast.

The arrangement between the two clubs includes the development of a Centre of Excellence in Colorado, the transfer of coaching ideas and the launch of the Arsenal Cup, a club tournament open to teams from all over the US.

The deal comes just days after Liverpool's takeover by American tycoons George Gillet and Tom Hicks, and represents an increasing trend of American businessmen linking up with English clubs.

Manchester United and Aston Villa are also owned by American business tycoons, but Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger said the deal was completely different to those takeovers.

"Unless I'm completely naive it's not a takeover," said Wenger.

"I've never heard about a possible takeover and I don't think that is at all behind our partnership."

"We develop a few partnerships sometimes with football schools and sometimes with clubs.

"We're trying to extend our brand and we're are also trying to extend our technical cooperation because the Americans might produce some players at some stage and that's why we're doing it.

"We're always trying to develop young players."

The Rapids will come to London to use Arsenal's facilities for six days while they continue training ahead of the MLS season which starts in April.


Title: Arse 2 Wigan 1
Post by: ONeill on February 11, 2007, 07:32:04 PM
That's the 11th time now at home that Arsenal have fallen behind and managed to get something from the game. Perhaps Wenger should hypnotise the players into thinking they're 1-down before the game starts.

Very lucky today. Should've been a penalty when Heskey was fouled. Arsenal then score a goal with 3-fold luck. Firstly, Wigan were denied bringing on their player who had been receiving treatment. Then the through-ball was to Flamini who was in an off-side position. Finally his cross was knocked in by a Wigan defender.

Crazy Lehman booking at the end. Mad Jens will never change.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 12, 2007, 07:38:26 PM
After all the talk last week about Ronaldo v Spurs - when he "went down to easy!"

Look at this....& not a word about it!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLZQVtKkK9k&NR

Ronaldo would have been deported for the likes of this...blatant cheating.
This is worse thean the Rivaldo incident during the World Cup in my opinion!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2007, 09:29:16 PM
An excellent dive, though not as convincing as Rooney's  - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9gwVPu6eog
Nor Ronaldo's - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkh6KQmpIxM
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 12, 2007, 09:41:28 PM
Ronaldo didnt mean to go over, sure he could have scored if he had of stayed up. Neither of these is as bad as henry's. He was about a metre away from the man when he went over.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2007, 09:46:43 PM
No, Ronaldo didn't mean to go over at all. Completely out of character.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 12, 2007, 09:50:47 PM
why didn't he take the open net goal, rather than a penalty which they had a chance of missing
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2007, 09:53:45 PM
Because he's that used to going over in the box. He actually tried to stay on his feet after initially diving.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 12, 2007, 09:58:46 PM
 
Henry fell to the ground after colliding with Carles Puyol
Next time I'll learn to dive maybe, but I'm not a woman

Thierry Henry, after the 2006 Champions League final

France striker Thierry Henry has denied cheating to win the free-kick which led to his side's second goal in their 3-1 World Cup victory over Spain.
Henry fell to the ground clutching his face after colliding with Carles Puyol.

Puyol insisted the referee had made the wrong decision, adding: "If anything it was a foul by Henry."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 12, 2007, 09:59:43 PM
he didnt just dive for the first time against wigan :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2007, 10:13:52 PM
Who said he did?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 12, 2007, 10:18:20 PM
Spanish coach Luis Aragones
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 12, 2007, 10:23:31 PM
Henry, after a game in which he was repeatedly being caught offside, chose to dive when Puyol got in his way as both men went for the ball - an arm into the chest that would not have been even a foul if Henry hadn't gone down was a free kick AND a yellow card for Carlos Puyol as Henry did a 'Rivaldo' and went down clutching his face

This was against spain
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2007, 10:28:21 PM
I'll ask again, who said he dived for the first time v Wigan?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: maxpower on February 13, 2007, 10:33:36 AM
I think the point of the original post is that when Ronaldo when over against Middlesborough or against Spurs the inquest lasted for days, and the media where only to happy to label him a cheat.

yet Henry does it regularly, and never a negative word mentioned about him, its almost as if the media are saying 'we don't want to piss him off or he'll go to Barcelona and we don't want that'

I don't just say this because of my anti arsenal bias, in the Utd spurs game ferdinand when down like an old woman when keane was nowhere near - again not a word, he's english, they don't dive, its that continential thing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 13, 2007, 11:48:27 AM
Quoteyet Henry does it regularly, and never a negative word mentioned about him, its almost as if the media are saying 'we don't want to piss him off or he'll go to Barcelona and we don't want that'

I'd have to contest that. I can only think of two occasions in the time he's been at Arsenal that he's done that. Henry was a bastion of fair play in his first 5-6 years at Arsenal but in recent years I admit he has become slightly cynical.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 13, 2007, 11:51:12 AM
That was my point Max.

Fair play O'Neil!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on February 13, 2007, 04:23:42 PM
Forget the shite talk lads, Henry is still the best player to have ever played in the premiership, on his day, completely unstoppable as many a defender will agree! This season he hasnt been his usual best but will still bang in 20+ goals!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2007, 11:54:12 PM
So Blackburn tomorrow in the cup. Brings back memories of the 05 victory.

Someone asked me recently, if Arsenal had to give their unbeaten record at Ashburton up to anyone, who'd it be? I thought a  crappy team like Hartlepool or Spurs but now think it'd be fitting if it was Barcelona or the like.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 21, 2007, 02:05:36 PM
Feck it. The crucial fortnight hasn't started too well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Fearon on February 21, 2007, 02:13:30 PM
Shane you were beaten by a Electrical Factory works team last night. ;D

The fluke win against mighty Spurs has lulled the goons into a false sense of security
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 21, 2007, 02:22:47 PM
Only saw the last 30 mins and it looked very un-Arsenal like, gave away possession, no urgency in midfield, poor communication....

The Goons should win the second leg but I think it might take extra-time to shake off PSV....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 21, 2007, 02:42:14 PM
Quote from: Tony Fearon on February 21, 2007, 02:13:30 PM

The fluke win against mighty Spurs has lulled the goons into a false sense of security

Which one are you talking about now?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 21, 2007, 03:21:59 PM
from arsenal.com

Arsenal Holdings plc half-year financial results
Group turnover increased to GBP100.8 million (2005: GBP57.0 million) as a result of higher gate and match day revenues at Emirates Stadium and sale of a property development site at Drayton Park.
Operating profits before depreciation and player trading increased to GBP20.0 million (2005: GBP8.0 million).
Profits before net finance charges and taxation increased to GBP19.6 million (2005: GBP14.3 million).
GBP210 million of fixed rate bonds and GBP50 million of floating rate bonds issued in the period to refinance all of the Group's stadium related debt. The refinancing provides a stable financial base and significant reduction in annual debt service costs for the long term. One-off, exceptional costs of GBP21.4 million associated with the refinancing result in the overall result for the period being a loss after taxation of GBP6.2 million (2005: profit of GBP9.6 million).
The redevelopment of Highbury into over 700 residential units has commenced and the demolition work has now been completed. Approximately 90% of the units released for sale at Highbury Square have already been pre-sold.
Commenting on the results for the half year Peter Hill-Wood, non-executive Chairman, said:

"As well as providing improved match day facilities and tickets for a far greater number of the Club's supporters, the Emirates Stadium project had an objective of providing Arsenal with the financial strength and resources to compete at the very highest level in all competitions. I believe that the results for the Group's first period in its new home demonstrate that we have already achieved this milestone."

The six months to 30 November 2006 has been another very successful period for the Group marked by the opening of Emirates Stadium in July 2006 and the commencement of the redevelopment works at Highbury. At the end of October 2006 we were very honoured to welcome HRH Duke of Edinburgh for the official opening of Emirates Stadium. 

In November the Emirates Stadium / Arsenal on the Move project collected two awards at the 2006 London Planning Awards — "Best Built Project Contributing to London's Future"  and the "Mayor's Award for Planning Excellence".  The project has also won "Best Mixed Use Regeneration Project" at the 2006 Regeneration Awards, a commendation from the 2006 Structural Steelwork Awards and has been nominated for the "Major Project Award" at the Quality in Construction Awards.

We have set ourselves very high targets for the standard of match day experience which we want to provide for all of our supporters at Emirates Stadium with its increased capacity, use of technology and significantly expanded corporate and hospitality facilities. This has been a major challenge and although we have been very pleased with the progress made to date we do not expect to reach our final targets for operational efficiency until the end of the season. The feedback from supporters has generally been extremely positive. Emirates Stadium has also proved to be a popular venue for conferences and other non match day events.     

In addition to the Club's own home matches, Emirates Stadium has also played host to two prestigious international friendly fixtures; in September Brazil played Argentina and earlier this month Brazil versus Portugal. We hope that international matches of a similar stature will become a regular feature of the Emirates Stadium calendar.

The redevelopment of Highbury into over 700 apartments and penthouses commenced as soon as the first match had successfully been staged at Emirates Stadium.  We have again appointed Sir Robert McAlpine as our main contractor and they expect to have some 800 workers on site at the peak of the construction work on the 3.5 hectare site. The demolition work has already been completed whilst at the same time retaining the facades to the listed East and West Stands. The level of pre-sales of the residential units remains very strong at approximately 90% of the units released for sale.

The financial results for the period are covered in more detail below - the Group's turnover for the period has exceeded GBP100 million and profits, before exceptional costs of GBP21.4 million and taxation, were GBP12.8 million against GBP14.6 million at the same stage last year." 

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 21, 2007, 03:25:26 PM
hope fully those results will give wenger a few quid for the summer transfers.

chelsea, blackburn,reading then psv. over the next fortnight, needs to be in top form reading and psv being the most important games, I hope  plays a full strength team in both.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2007, 07:52:34 PM
Intriguing match-up this Sunday. It looks like Wenger is sticking with his experiment. The Carling side has shown much more passion than the first team in recent weeks so I'm looking forward to this. Sort of a no-lose situation.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 23, 2007, 09:42:46 PM
This 'young' Arsenal side is a bit of a myth is it not? If you take the two sides from Arsenal and Chelsea that completed the 2nd leg of the LC semi, Arsenal's average age is 23.5, while Chelsea's is 25. In fact take 34yo Makalele out of if and Chelsea's age is 24.

Hardly a world of difference!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2007, 09:56:20 PM
A myth, you must be joking. Arsenal's 'average' is pumped up by Almunia and Gilberto. To average 23.5 is incredible.

In the Carling Cup, Arsenal have fielded Denilson (19), Walcott (17), Traore (17), Diaby (20), Djourou (19), Fabregas (19), Connolly (19), Randall (17), and throw in Clichy, Hoyte, Senderos and you've one hell of a young team.

Besides, the serious lack of experienced players Arsene has used has been phenomenal. In all 5 games he has played Jeremie Aliadiere, Manuel Almunia, Denilson, Armand Traore & Theo Walcott - they're our carling Cup foundation!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 23, 2007, 10:35:54 PM
Don't get me wrong O'Neill, you have some fine players coming through, but I don't think they are as good as the hype. Perhaps by 4:50 on Sunday, I might edit this post.

Chelsea have some fine youngsters coming through too, but will Jose play them...ever?

Woods, Maciene, Sahar, Jimmy Smirh, Sinclair, Jack Cork, Stoch etc etc
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2007, 10:41:58 PM
There is the possibilty that the final against a team like Chelsea is a step too far for the youngsters. I have actually bet on Chelsea on winning by 4 or more goals (and Arsenal winning on penalties to keep it interesting).

In terms of hype, the 6-3 win at Anfield against a team that possessed Dudek, Aurelio, Hyypia, Gerrard, Gonzalez, Luis Garcia, Carragher, Alonso, Bellamy and Fowler was some achievement no matter what happens on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 25, 2007, 04:20:44 PM
that was a hell of a kick on the Face JT took
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on February 25, 2007, 04:27:46 PM
jaysus your right, a savage kick he got. hopefully he will be right. score at the minute for anyone is still 1.1.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on February 25, 2007, 05:39:31 PM
The Gooners are gonners!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 25, 2007, 05:58:05 PM
Apart from the result, that was a pleasure to watch. Fair play to Wenger for keeping to his experiment. Up until the Terry incident, Diaby was playing a stormer. It seemed to affect him badly. I'd have had Adebayor on for Baptista at HT.

Well done Chelsea - Drogba always had Senderos's number. Pity the discipline of the older guys (Toure, Adebayor, Lampard) went at the end.

Very proud of the way the young'uns played. The passing was phenomenal. 

Fearon will be unbearable. Expect 409 threads on North London.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Truth on February 25, 2007, 06:03:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 25, 2007, 05:58:05 PM
Apart from the result, that was a pleasure to watch. Fair play to Wenger for keeping to his experiment. Up until the Terry incident, Diaby was playing a stormer. It seemed to affect him badly. I'd have had Adebayor on for Baptista at HT.

Well done Chelsea - Drogba always had Senderos's number. Pity the discipline of the older guys (Toure, Adebayor, Lampard) went at the end.

Very proud of the way the young'uns played. The passing was phenomenal. 

Fearon will be unbearable. Expect 409 threads on North London.

Wenger has an unbelievable ability for unearthing young players. I think todays game showed Arsenal have a bright future and they have the makings of a great team, on the other hand where will Chelsea be when Abramovich jumps ship?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 25, 2007, 06:48:18 PM
I thought the Chelsea fans were shockingly poor in one section of the crowd. This photo wasn't an isolated incident:

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42612000/jpg/_42612291_objects_getty416.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 27, 2007, 12:54:08 AM
I think Fabregas was extremely childish when the Chelsea fans were 'cloding him'. It's only a lump of fecking celery. It's a traditional Chelsea think to bring celery to Cup finals, and throw it each other, and onto the pitch. Fabregas' ability to milk it, only encouraged this behaviour.

This, his petulance at the end, and his swipe at Hughes last week is a pity for young Cesc. Fine a player he is, he'd need to start growing up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 27, 2007, 08:36:33 AM
The Chelsea fans were disgraceful. I'm fully aware of their celery tradition but it's not the done thing to throw the celery at opposing players when they're trying to take a corner. This happened on three occasions.

As for the Cesc/Hughes incident, as the Sunday Times explained, there was only one man lacking class - and that was Hughes. As he walked off, Cesc asked Hughes if he had played for Barcelona and when Hughes replied in the affirmative Fabregas said 'that's not Barcelona football'. In the context of what is said on a field every day, pretty harmless stuff. Hughes' reply was "f*** off you f*****. F*** f***' etc etc. Fabregas, unbeknownst to Arsene and Arsenal went to Hughes afterwards and apologised. This was just after Hughes went whinging to the press.

For a 19-year old, Fabregas is remarkably mature. Lampard actually apologised yesterday, saying that he thought Fabregas was being aggressive but now realises he was trying to break up Toure and Mikel.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 27, 2007, 10:52:23 AM
QuoteI think Fabregas was extremely childish when the Chelsea fans were 'cloding him'. It's only a lump of fecking celery.

Hmm, are you serious? The Chelsea fans were muppets, end of. Bring their celery but to throw it as players is wrong, simple as that, next you'll be codoning pigs heads...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 27, 2007, 11:35:31 AM
the whiney wee w**ker was lucky Sparky didnt wail into him! now THAT would have been worth watching.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on February 27, 2007, 03:24:22 PM
the highlight of sunday for me was the performance of Denilson, up against essien and lampard he was majestic, another gem unearthed by Monsieur Wenger!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 27, 2007, 11:13:28 PM
I should probably calibrate my comments by stating that I in no way condone fans throwing objects onto the pitch, but it was only celery, not coins or fireworks. The game of football is too sanitised these days. Done at the Bridge you are not allowed banners into the ground....in case they go on fire!

My point was that I fely Fabregas milked the situation, and over reacted. If he had've ignored it the first time and got on with it, it would've stoped...sorta.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gold on February 27, 2007, 11:41:52 PM
Cesc was defo the aggressive v Lampard--he needs clipped
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2007, 07:56:54 AM
Senderos, Senderos, Senderos, 2 games 2 defeats he's just not good enough....

I hate agreeing with Andy Gray because he really hasn't a clue but half way through the second half he stated Blackburn will win this 1 - 0, the Goons didn't take their chances and were mugged. Mark Hughes is a knob, 2 shots on target and they deserved to win it  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on March 01, 2007, 08:18:16 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2007, 07:56:54 AM
Mark Hughes is a knob, 2 shots on target and they deserved to win it  ::)

Thats the boy Dinny, always gracious in defeat :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 01, 2007, 08:24:46 AM
A doubt Hansen was ahead of his time....

QuoteSenderos, Senderos, Senderos, 2 games 2 defeats he's just not good enough....

Is it not 3 defeats? Or are you only talking about domestic games?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2007, 08:28:31 AM
QuoteThats the boy Dinny, always gracious in defeat

;D

Does sound a bit ungracious but I just wish managers would be honest. Two penalty appeals turned down, 1 of which was stone wall and about 6 other wasted opportunities, Blackburn didn't defend well so how he can say they deserved it is beyond me. Blackburn are a poor man's Bolton and Mark Hughes is still a knob....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2007, 08:33:06 AM
QuoteIs it not 3 defeats? Or are you only talking about domestic games?

Just the last two games where Senderos was directly culpable for the goals conceded. A season in the Championship is what he needs, he's just too young and inexperienced for the Premiership. He has no pace either but as Terry proves pace isn't everything....

Maybe I'm being harsh on the chap but I can't remember him every having a good game..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 01, 2007, 09:36:30 AM
He actually had a decent World Cup. Apart from the goal he had a good game last night. Unfortunately, the lapses in concentration are criminal though he shouldn't have been playing right back last night.

The PSV game in monumental to the season now. Strangely I wasn't upset at either defeat in the cups. My silver lining is that I am now going to see them v Bolton on the 14th April as they're out of the cup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2007, 09:45:59 AM
QuoteHe actually had a decent World Cup.

For a Swiss side that put 10 players behind the ball and the game is a lot slower. I hope he proves me wrong but he's just not good enough at the mo'.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 01, 2007, 01:39:18 PM
Hope Arsenal fans have finally realised what the madristas already cottoned onto - Baptista is a complete buffoon. No touch, no positioning, can't score and goes over very easy for a man with his build.

Awful, awful player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 02, 2007, 10:45:39 PM
For those interested - Arsenal v Reading live on RTE tomorrow.

Serious injury/suspension problems. 14 players to choose from he says.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 03, 2007, 12:57:18 PM
baptista will take time to settle, but he will come good eventually. I just hope its not too long
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 03, 2007, 04:23:52 PM
Quote from: ildanach on March 03, 2007, 12:57:18 PM
baptista will take time to settle, but he will come good eventually. I just hope its not too long

Good call - he just scored!
Title: Arse 2 Reading 1
Post by: ONeill on March 03, 2007, 10:16:11 PM
A mixed bag today. Sublime football for the majority mixed with some criminal misses - check out Fabregas's. At 2-0 and coasting, Wenger makes the 'must-not-do' substitution and brings on a defender as Arsenal are defending a corner. Who is it? - Senderos! What does he do? Gets his head onto the ball but sends it towards Lehmann. On its way it hits Fabregas and goes in. Then Senderos gets booked. All this happens after his 87th minute introduction! Senderos is quickly approaching Stephanov legendary status.

Baptista - what can you say - - strong as a bull. Intelligence of a gnat. Very frustrating player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 04, 2007, 12:23:00 PM
on the evidence of the last week, we really only have 3 reliable centre backs, gallas,toure and djourou (scaping the barrell). I dont know what connolly is going to to be like. in the summer we really need to buy another, also a keeper and maybe another striker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 07, 2007, 09:51:00 PM
Been a long time since Arsenal have had no interest in any competition from March.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 07, 2007, 10:02:05 PM
Surprised with this result. I know PSV are a decent side...but they will be the team eveyone wants in the draw on Friday!

Arsenal probably just miss a couple of, dare I say it...English type players. The likes of Hargreaves & Woodgate!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 07, 2007, 10:09:44 PM
Arsenal all fur coat and no knickers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 07, 2007, 10:11:44 PM
Arsenal just dont have the nuts for it when the going gets tight.....Too many players preening and prancing, you are allowed to shoot from outside the box.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 07, 2007, 10:26:38 PM
You boys would make great British journos. The same team reached the Champions' League final last year. You can't do it every year. Nothing to do with English players - when have England won anything worthwhile? Last year it was Henry/Pires/Reyes/Fabregas/Toure that propelled them to the final. The year they went the seaon unbeaten it was Henry/Pires/Vieira/Edu/Gilberto/Toure...don't regurgitate your British press please.

The going was tight when 1-0 down to Utd with 10 mins left. Scored 2. When they beat Liverpool 3-0, 3-1 and 6-3 there was little lacking.

Today can be put down to a serious slump in cup form not helped with with Henry on one leg, Van Persie out, Gallas unfit, Rosicky out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 07, 2007, 10:36:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 07, 2007, 10:26:38 PM
You boys would make great British journos. The same team reached the Champions' League final last year. You can't do it every year. Nothing to do with English players - when have England won anything worthwhile? Last year it was Henry/Pires/Reyes/Fabregas/Toure that propelled them to the final. The year they went the seaon unbeaten it was Henry/Pires/Vieira/Edu/Gilberto/Toure...don't regurgitate your British press please.

The going was tight when 1-0 down to Utd with 10 mins left. Scored 2.
Who is talking about English players?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 07, 2007, 10:38:28 PM
Can't you read?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 07, 2007, 10:40:04 PM
Did i mention English players in my post cocksucker?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 07, 2007, 10:42:34 PM
Was he replying to you?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 07, 2007, 10:43:58 PM
I never read your post, and now that I have I see that you've nothing to offer. This time last year they ousted Madrid, then Juventus, then Villarreal all in tight games. They've won extremely tight games at home all season when in impossible situations. They've defeated Utd twice this season in tight games. They've defeated Liverpool three times. They were minutes from beating Chelsea.

However, a lack of cup form has seen them out tonight. Nothing to do with balls (which they've shown all season be it the reserves or first team).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 08, 2007, 09:01:41 AM
Jasas Syd calm the head lad!!! - You get excited to easily!!

It was me!!! I just thought that if Arsenal had a couple of dogged English player in the spine of their team they might be a harder side to beat!

Arsenal underperformed in the league last year, & have missed Sol Campbell & Viera in my opinion! - I thought the 2 names I suggested would be adequate replacements!?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 10:28:05 AM
QuoteArsenal underperformed in the league last year, & have missed Sol Campbell & Viera in my opinion

As a regular Arsenal watcher I can assure you that going on their last season for Arsenal they most certainly were not missed. The Gooners are paying the price for being involved in too many competitions, the 2 replays in the FA Cup were a massive factor, the players simply weren't getting a enough recovery time. Henry should not have been introduced last night but hindsight is a wonderful thing, so I agree with O'Neill in that Henry on one leg, Van Persie out, Gallas unfit and were big losses. And is akin to Chelsea playing without Drogba, Terry, Shevshenko and Lampard or Man U without Ronaldo, Vidic, Rooney and Scholes or Liverpool without Carragher, Gerrard and Alonso, they have no strikers that would be missed.

Although disappointing, this season has laid a very strong foundation for years to come.

As for the Champions League Liverpool and Chelsea are serious contenders, well organised and hard teams to score against but it's wide open, PSV are similar and only a fool would think that they would be an easy touch in the quarter-finals. Personally if I was a manager, Man U look like the weakest side left in it...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 08, 2007, 10:42:47 AM

Delighted for the gooners.

Anything that takes bill gates and his "we don't buy players, we grow them" smarmy attitude down a peg is all good in my book.

FFS no club in the history of the game has spent as many tens of millions on teenagers.

Don't let the door hit yis on the arse on the way out
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 11:03:25 AM
QuoteFFS no club in the history of the game has spent as many tens of millions on teenagers.

Eh! Can you list these players and their cost? By the way didn't Man U pay intially 23 million for a teenage Rooney and 12 million for a teenage Ronaldo. Your lack of knowledge beggars belief....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 08, 2007, 11:07:43 AM

My lack of knowledge?

where have i denied any of that?

my point is united, chelsea, liverpool, etc don't play the youngsters card, pretending not to be competing in the transfer market.

your inability to read beggars belief...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: blasmere on March 08, 2007, 11:12:05 AM
The Gunners are a delight to watch unlike Chelski & Liverpool and are to be commended on their youth policy, no club in world football has better young players.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 08, 2007, 11:15:30 AM
Can't say I'm sorry for Arsenal. How long has Wenger left at arsenal anyway? Is it just next season?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 11:46:43 AM
QuoteFFS no club in the history of the game has spent as many tens of millions on teenagers.

Uladh, did you not say that? Quite simply Man U spent more on two teenagers than all Arsenals teenages put together. You should think before you type  ::)

You didn't clarify your point until you posted the second time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 08, 2007, 11:56:19 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 11:46:43 AM
QuoteFFS no club in the history of the game has spent as many tens of millions on teenagers.

Quite simply Man U spent more on two teenagers than all Arsenals teenages put together.


I very very much doubt that. for a start, walcott cost far more that CR... great bit of business that was. i'm sure you're more versed in the detail, so tell me the amounts arsenal had to stump up in tribunals for the teenagers they've nicked, plus the millions they have already outlayed?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2007, 12:31:25 PM
Again, the fools the fools - they listen the the tripe Hansen and Co spout about Arsenal continually playing youngsters and then pass it off as their own opinion.

Last night Arsenal from 1-11 played the following ages:

37,

26, 30, 30, 22

30, 20, 19, 26,

25, 23

Unless crippled by injury, or playing in the Carling Cup, Arsenal send out a team similar to the above (although missing Henry (29) and Rosicky (26) )

It's the petty lightweights who comment after the event is over, and never before, who need ignored.

Actually wasn't disappointed last night. It has been one of those seasons and believe it or not Arsenal are domestically better off than they were 12 months ago. Van Persie was shaping up as a 20-goaler this season before the injury.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 08, 2007, 12:49:15 PM

We're not talking about last night in reference to the youth myth, rather the general pr.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on March 08, 2007, 01:02:50 PM
QuoteAs for the Champions League Liverpool and Chelsea are serious contenders, well organised and hard teams to score against but it's wide open, PSV are similar and only a fool would think that they would be an easy touch in the quarter-finals. Personally if I was a manager, Man U look like the weakest side left in it...

So Liverpool are clearly better than the team that is 19 points ahead of them in the league and has beaten them twice this season?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on March 08, 2007, 01:07:08 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 10:28:05 AM
As for the Champions League Liverpool and Chelsea are serious contenders, well organised and hard teams to score against but it's wide open, PSV are similar and only a fool would think that they would be an easy touch in the quarter-finals. Personally if I was a manager, Man U look like the weakest side left in it...

Just as well you will never make a manager then Dinny-eh ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 01:14:17 PM
QuoteSo Liverpool are clearly better than the team that is 19 points ahead of them in the league and has beaten them twice this season?

On the European stage, absolutely, jesus Seanie even a myopic Man U fan like has to admit Liverpool were much the better side last Saturday, no?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 01:47:24 PM
QuoteI very very much doubt that. for a start, walcott cost far more that CR

Uladh, look you're not an Arsenal fan Wlacott cost 5 million although there are clauses which will see that rise, for a lad just turned 17 he has done quite well this season and I am happy with his progress. Ronaldo who Arsenal tried to sign cost 12.4 million and only this season has really impressed. Now piss off to the Champions Elect thread and leave myself and O'Neill to wallow in our Gooners delusion
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2007, 01:57:09 PM
Dinny, can you remember the last time Arsenal had no silverware to play for in March. Can't be arsed researching it, but from memory - (I can't remember when Arsenal exited the CL in these years so they may be added)

2006 - CL
2005 - FA Cup
2004 - PL, FA Cup
2003 - FA Cup
2002 - PL, FA Cup
2001 - FA Cup, CL
2000 - UEFA Cup
1999 - PL
1998 - PL, FA Cup
1997 - ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 02:04:59 PM
First year of Wenger , 96 -97 I think. Depressing few months ahead. Seemingly not once this season has Wenger played his first choice XI and only once have Lehamann, Eboube, Toure, Gallas and Clichy have played together. You have to look at the World Cup as a pausible excuse....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on March 08, 2007, 02:10:38 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 02:04:59 PM
You have to look at the World Cup as a pausible excuse....

Ah Dinny, thats right, the 2006 World Cup, exclusively for Arsenal players
It's actually called the 'Arsenal World Cup' & not the 'FIFA World Cup' - honest
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 08, 2007, 02:12:28 PM
arsenal time and time again are being recked by set pieces, The annoying thing is that was  a needless free kick given away by hleb and in the carling cup denillson gave away the ball for drogba to score from that cross. 2 incidents that could be avoided or if we had any luck would not have led to goals. I don feel we need a keeper who is commanding in the area and i would like to see arsenal buy woodgate, we have already struck uo the relationship with real madrid in the baptista / reyes transfer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 02:28:33 PM
QuoteAh Dinny, thats right, the 2006 World Cup, exclusively for Arsenal players

Well, if you sit down and think about it you might be shocked to learn that Arsenal and Chelsea had the most players at the World Cup, now if you think really hard you will realise that both their squads have suffered the most this year, co-incidence?, now if you think even harder you will realise that Henry had no preseason because A. He was involved in an Arsenal squad that got to the Champions League final and B A French squad that got to the World Cup final. So yes I believe the World Cup is a factor in Arsenals poor season not the total reason but a factor none the less....

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on March 08, 2007, 02:37:31 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 02:04:59 PM
You have to look at the World Cup as a pausible excuse....

Doesnt say it is a factor in your previous post!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on March 08, 2007, 02:40:35 PM
Dinny is right about the World Cup being a factor. Rooney and Heinze are definitely suffering because of it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on March 08, 2007, 02:57:01 PM
Catch a grip lads
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 08, 2007, 03:23:51 PM

Do none of the arsene lovers believe it was a massive mistake to move toure to right back and play gilberto in the heart of the defence? baffling decision by my thinking to play an unfit gallas and a midfielder at centre back when you've one of the best centre backs in the world at your disposal, no matter if he can play right back or not.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Fearon on March 08, 2007, 04:03:07 PM
Sit back all you Goons, relax, and watch a N.London team containing British and Irish players, reach a European Final and actually win it.

We are holding a victory parade through the heart of Islington by the way ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 04:20:25 PM
QuoteDo none of the arsene lovers believe it was a massive mistake to move toure to right back and play gilberto in the heart of the defence?

Have to agree unfortunately Wenger never puts much thought into his defence, but that's his philosophy I suppose...

QuoteSit back all you Goons, relax, and watch a N.London team containing British and Irish players,

Tony, why the British and Irish jibe, is that important to you and if so why?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Fearon on March 08, 2007, 04:30:22 PM
It shows that the club has some tentative link with the area in which its located.


I can't see Wenger or Henry hanging around much longer. Soon it'll be same old boring 1-0 to the Arsenal managed by Tony Adams.

I'm lovin' it! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2007, 05:27:36 PM
Sport has moved on Tony...

QuoteSoon it'll be same old boring 1-0 to the Arsenal managed by Tony Adams.

;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 08, 2007, 10:01:41 PM
Im going to be in London on the 28th of April,so i checked out the footy fixtures and see that Arsenal are at home that weekend
Anyone know where i'd get a ticket for match? Not a Arsenal fan just thought it be nice to go see stadium and catch a match while im there
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2007, 10:39:36 PM
I might be able to get you one ticket, but won't know until the end of March.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 08, 2007, 11:07:38 PM
appreciate that no hassle if you can't
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on March 09, 2007, 01:04:19 PM
Quote from: Tony Fearon on March 08, 2007, 04:03:07 PM
Sit back all you Goons, relax, and watch a N.London team containing British and Irish players, reach a European Final and actually win it.

We are holding a victory parade through the heart of Islington by the way ;D
/quote]



Well Tony you knob, at least you could hold it in Islington and have no bother - 

Imagine a parade up The High road N17!! Robbers paradise!!! ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 09, 2007, 03:59:06 PM
has been doing the rounds

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2007, 04:32:43 PM
Henry out for the rest of the season - - fairly sums up the last 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 09, 2007, 04:33:09 PM
from  arsenal.com

Thierry Henry will not play for Arsenal again this season.

The French striker damaged groin and stomach muscles in Wednesday's 1-1 draw with PSV Eindhoven and, as a consequence, will miss the next three months of domestic and international football. Arsenal hope to have him back to full fitness for the start of the 2007-08 campaign.

"Thierry Henry will be out for a minimum of three months," said Arsène Wenger on Friday afternoon. "Unfortunately this means he will now miss the rest of this season both domestically and internationally, but we are confident that he will be ready for the start of next season."

- i suppose since we are out of the cups it is best that he gets fit for next season. I just hope he is still there and that we see him back at his best.
we still should have enough to get 4th (perhaps third) with baptista, adebyor and maybe maybe van persie back in april.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 14, 2007, 08:26:08 PM
1-0 up away to Villa after 30 mins (Diaby)

Strange feeling although the team's playing with freedom.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 14, 2007, 10:01:31 PM
Finished 1-0.

Title challenge back on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 15, 2007, 01:28:45 PM
Are none of you Gooners worries at the suggestion that AW is going to spend 8mill on that clown Baptista????? :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on March 15, 2007, 07:13:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 14, 2007, 10:01:31 PM
Finished 1-0.

Title challenge back on.

As in the challenge for the title of third-best premiership team? :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 16, 2007, 09:18:34 AM
QuoteAre none of you Gooners worries at the suggestion that AW is going to spend 8mill on that clown Baptista?

Well I sooner The Beast than JAA, he has been a bit hit and miss, more miss I'd admit but his early season was dogged by injury, he's a muscular option and in RVP, TH and Adenbayor you have 4 strkers very different in their approach...
Title: Toffees 1 Arse 0
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2007, 08:39:07 PM
First league defeat of 2007, in much the same manner as those in 2006. Plenty of nice passing and possession - little bite in the box. (although having your #4 and #5 strikers doesn't help).

On the plus side the suspensions are up and RVP is nearing an end-of-season return. The game in hand v Man City is looking crucial as i think Liverpool will exact revenge for the earlier maulings, in a fortnight.

Gilberto is no centre-back. Aliadiere couldn't score against Tyrone at the minute. Good to see Rosicky back. Diaby getting back to his pre-injury form.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 28, 2007, 11:48:58 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on March 08, 2007, 10:01:41 PM
Im going to be in London on the 28th of April,so i checked out the footy fixtures and see that Arsenal are at home that weekend
Anyone know where i'd get a ticket for match? Not a Arsenal fan just thought it be nice to go see stadium and catch a match while im there

This match has sold out, sorry.
Title: http://arseblog.com/WP/2007/04/01/liverpool-make-arsenal-march-fools-at-anfield
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2007, 11:07:38 AM
Liverpool make Arsenal March fools at Anfield


As bad as going out of three cup competitions inside two weeks was yesterday's game at Anfield was, for me, the true nadir of this season. A listless, lethargic Arsenal were taken apart by Liverpool and Peter Crouch who scored a great hat-trick. About 15 minutes in I texted a mate saying 'We'll lose this by two or three goals', half hoping I'd be so incredibly wrong it'd turn things around but mostly because that's how it looked. At the end I was almost pining for the internationals. So much for having real football back.

The first came when Liverpool put it in from our left and Crouch, known for his lightning pace, got there before Kolo Toure. The second came from a cross from the right, William Gallas didn't even bother jumping and Crouch beat Diaby, who was at least trying to get back, to power a great header past Jens. Half-time 2-0 and we'd barely had a shot in anger although Adebayor headed over from a corner.

In the second half Adebayor hit the post with a good left footed effort. Their third came from a set piece. A free kick on the right was whipped in and Agger got there before a static Baptista (is there any other kind?) to glance home the header. Then Adebayor had a good header touched onto the post by Reina before Rosicky and Freddie came on for Baptista and Diaby. With 18 minutes left we got one back when Gallas touched it over the line after a corner had beaten everyone but there was no comeback, only time for Liverpool's fourth. Again the ball came in from the right, Crouch turned Kolo inside out and finished with aplomb. 4-1 Liverpool and there was only time for one more moment which summed up Arsenal's day. We had a free kick in a central position, with players in the box and Cesc just hoofed it over the bar. Awful.

We've lost heavily before. There was 6-1 at Old Trafford and a 4-0 at Anfield a few years back but I can't remember us being quite so abject before. The lack of effort from some players was worrying and the lack of any discernable footballing ability from others equally so.

I have to question the manager's team selection. With two players in Freddie and Rosicky who can play wide why did we not choose one of them? Diaby could have played in the middle with Cesc but to put him wide left with those two options on the bench is truly puzzling. Denilson is a tidy young footballer but I'm not sure he's as good as we like to think he is, yet. Hleb and Baptista were absolutely atrocious. I've had quite enough of Hleb giving the ball away and not bothering to even look as if he's going to try and get it back. Please get rid of him. Please. Baptista is just dreadful. He missed a glorious chance in the first half and if his first touch is bad his second and third are often worse. He's obviously not going to be around next season so he should only play as a last resort because he's not even trying. Freddie could easily have done a job up front today or we could have played a 4-5-1.

At the back we were a complete shambles. If that's our 'first choice' back four then I'm worried. Gallas and Toure were torn to shreds, not just once either, and I hope the fans who gave Senderos such a hard time this season will realise that perhaps our defensive woes are more down to the lack of defensive organisation and coaching than the individual abilities of the players. Gallas hardly won a header all day from Crouch. I realise there's a big height difference but I lost count of the amount of times he had free headers or even time to take the ball down and pass it because nobody went near him. That's just not good enough. Is it any coicidence that our back four last season, when Martin Keown was working with them, set a new Champions League record for clean sheets and time without conceding? Remember that was a back four with this season's scapegoat, Philippe Senderos, and Mathieu Flamini at left back. I don't know who our defensive coach at the moment is but I suspect it must be Jeff Blockley.

The one bright spot was Adebayor who, despite the almost complete lack of service did hit the post twice and looked like he was interested in the game. I want to mention Cesc too. He was quiet and ineffective but when he's got shite like Baptista in front of him, doing nothing, and shite like Hleb outside him, often not wanting the ball, then it's hard for a central midfield player. We certainly would have had much more movement if we'd started Freddie and Rosicky and the manager's insistence on packing his midfield with central midfielders is worrying. I wonder is Mathieu Flamini injured as well. As I mentioned above people seem to have decided that Denilson is a great player after a couple of no-pressure performances because nobody expected anything from him. I know he's not everyone's favourite but we could have done with Flamini's workrate and industry in midfield yesterday.

It strikes me that there's a real danger that too many fans prefer the player with the odd pretty pass and dragback to the player who is consistently effective in a game. The attitude of some of the players concerns me as well. We won the Cup Winners Cup in 94 with a squad that, in terms of technical ability, wouldn't get near most of this lot - particularly midfield - but who had a will that won them games. They knew they're weren't brilliant so they worked like c***ts to make up for it. This lot have everyone telling them how great they are and they're not putting in the hard work which would make them fantastic. Most of them haven't won anything yet. The praise of pundits and newspapers doesn't matter at the end of the day. Even at the start of the second half yesterday we were passing it around like it was a training match. There was no drive, no pace, no aggression, no determination, no snapping into tackles (although Cesc was hampered by being booked for a perfectly good challenge on Alonso).

Is that all down to the players or is the manager culpable in this? Where is the leadership? Where was the person who looked at the way we played on the pitch today and said "This is not good enough! Come on Arsenal. We can do better than this!"? I didn't see William Gallas, so eager to talk to his journalist friends, doing anything to lead the young players. I saw Kolo clap his hands once or twice but there's no doubt we missed Gilberto and overall we miss somebody who won't stand for the kind of lazy crap we got some from of our players and will give them a bollocking to snap them out of it.

Afterwards, Arsene said:

Defensively our performance was horrendous. If we want to finish third now we will have to produce better performances than that. We are not certain of being in the top four.

No arguing with any of that from here and it is positive that he's said it. It's not the normal stuff he usually comes out with in the wake of a defeat. At one stage there was a shot of him on the TV and you could see him looking in almost disbelief at some of the players.

Let's hope, because it's the only positive we can take from yesterday, that some lessons are learned from this. Not so much by the players but by the manager. Some of the faith he has in some of the players is misplaced. Some of these players have to go. Some new ones have to come in if we want to challenge for the title next season and more than anything the attitude has to change. After their first goal heads went down and that was only four minutes in. After their second if was obvious there was no way back.

He's got a whole week to work with them ahead of the West Ham game. In a way I feel sorry for him with some of them but at the end of the day they're his players, he brought them to the club he has to get them to perform. The buck stops with the manager and it's down to him now to get enough out of these guys between now and the end of the season to secure a top 4 place.

Take it away, Arsene.[/i]
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 02, 2007, 11:23:28 AM
Haven't read such an over the top whinge in quite a well, that writer exceeds himself..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on April 02, 2007, 11:41:47 AM
great result for Utd, Arsenal in need of points against chelsea suits me fine!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2007, 09:48:20 PM
Man U 3 Arsenal 3 on aggregate in extra time of Youth Cup.

Utd really should be winning this easy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2007, 09:56:42 PM
4-3 Utd.

That's more like it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 03, 2007, 09:16:34 AM
O'Neill,

Any highlights of the youths match available?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2007, 09:41:29 AM
Not as yet but there will be soon.

As regards the article above, the writer isn't too far off the mark with many of his comments although I still feel it's worth persevering with Hleb.

Ian Wright said yesterday that the days of Wenger building a team of relative unknowns and making them Champions are dead and gone. He reckons the bar has been raised so high in terms of Utd and Chelsea buying top-class ready-made talent that Wenger has to start competing for those big-name signings. He has a point here. There is no doubt we have some wonderful talent and the double over Utd, treble over Liverpool and the performance at Stamford Bridge proves that. However, when it comes to grinding out victories against teams that decide to kick you around the field, Arsenal simply don't have the maturity and experience to cope with it. Until last year, Vieira, Pires, Campbell, Keown, Henry, Ljungberg etc brought that wealth of experience and know-how wherever they went. I think AW got the balance wrong this year in terms of age and experience although his hand was forced with long term injuries to Gallas, Ljungberg, Henry and Van Persie.

The question remains, will it all have been worth it? The lads have competed in a Carling Cup final, won at Old Trafford and Anfield - will that result in a young yet dynamically experienced and technically gifted side in 6-12 month's time?

Sometimes it's good to remember the 99-01 years - some terrible results but he got it right in the end in '02 and the invincibles of '04.

I see Cygan is playing great stuff for Villarreal and Pires scored at the weekend.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 05, 2007, 07:11:31 PM
QuoteKROENKE BUYS 9.99% GUNNERS STAKE

American entrepreneur Stan Kroenke has bought a 9.99% shareholding in Arsenal.

ITV plc this evening announced they had unconditionally sold their 9.99% shareholding interest in Arsenal Holdings plc to Kroenke-controlled KSE UK INC.

Kroenke Sports Enterprise have also co-owned American Football franchise St Louis Rams following their relocation to Missouri, while NBA side Denver Nuggets and the NHL's Colorado Avalanche are now too under the group's umbrella.

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/07/04/05/SOCCER_Arsenal_Kroenke.html&TEAMH D=soccer
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 07, 2007, 08:22:26 PM
Arsenal's splendid run of form continues. 30 shots on goal. 14 corners. 0 goals.

On the bright side, my visit to the Emirates next Saturday v Bolton now has some edge to it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 17, 2007, 07:51:31 PM
Took a run down to the Emirates on Saturday. Was mightily sad seeing Highbury in its present state. Only the outside East Stand really remains. McAlpine has her well dug out now.

As for Ashburton - all I can say is that it's a big modern stadium. Nothing more and nothing less than I expected. Plenty of food, bookies, drink etc. Good views. Still not 'Arsenal' yet but that'll take time.

As for the game it was same old for the first half hour. Dominating possession but seriously nervy at the back and when Anelka scored you could see the will drain from most of the team. Only for the passion and drive of Rosicky Bolton could have grasped the game by the scruff. Hleb really disappointed me. I was a big fan of his til Saturday. Tidy on the ball but no end product. He'd make you dizzy watching him. A good player to have when your team is dominating though. Gallas and Eboue were ropey enough. Toure is captain material and Clichy is as good as Cole was at that age. Gilberto sits back and shields the defence. Fabregas oozes class but sometimes looked like no one else was on his wavelength. Ljungberg tracks hard and battles. Not many miles left on the legs though. Adebayor was horrendously lazy first half but inspirational second half. Don't see him as a league winner though.

Baptista takes serious stick from the crowd as it is affecting him. Good on the ball going forward but no brain whatsoever when it comes to pass/shoot. Diaby is a real prospect and it was refreshing to see Wenger play him up front. I like the look of him.

Man City tonight.
Title: Arse 3 Manchester 1
Post by: ONeill on April 17, 2007, 10:54:13 PM
A decent result which should secure top 4. Diaby was most impressive again but extremely unlucky to come off early. Great goal by Cesc. Rosicky becoming more and more a Ljungberg in his prime, great cross by Eboue......and the Beast even scored!

The goals:

1-0 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=894013

1-1 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=894198

2-1 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=894439

3-1 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=894460
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggysego on April 17, 2007, 10:55:28 PM
Anyone know the URL to that Chinese website that show on the Premiership Games live?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 17, 2007, 10:57:09 PM
Are you talking about www.myp2p.eu......doesn't need to be Chinese.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 18, 2007, 06:05:01 PM
David Dein has resigned  :o

God damn yanks

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=461815&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=David+Dein+leaves+Arsenal+Football+Club (http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=461815&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=David+Dein+leaves+Arsenal+Football+Club)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 18, 2007, 06:12:41 PM
could be the start of wholesale changes in the board room, looks like the yanks are wanting the whole club
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on April 18, 2007, 06:15:56 PM
Vice-chairman Dein leaves Arsenal  (From BBC)

Dein's sudden departure from Arsenal is a stunning development
Arsenal vice-chairman David Dein has left the club with immediate effect because of "irreconcilable differences" with the rest of the board.
American billionaire Stan Kroenke has bought 9.9% of Arsenal and more shares from major stakeholder Danny Fiszman.
It sparked takeover talk, but chairman Peter Hill-Wood played down moves.
He revealed remaining board members, who own 45.45% of the remaining shares, had agreed not to dispose of their shares for at least one year.
In a statement, Hill-Wood said: "On behalf of the board I would like to express our gratitude to David Dein for the many years of loyal service he has given to the club.
"We sincerely regret that irreconcilable differences between Mr. Dein and the rest of the board have necessitated a parting of the ways."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 18, 2007, 06:20:17 PM
looks like he wanted to sell his share
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 18, 2007, 10:43:52 PM
Good ridance to the scum bag.........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 18, 2007, 10:49:04 PM
The thing about Dein is that for the most part he always had Arsenal's future at heart, usually successfully so. If he thought the investment by Kroenke was a good thing, I'd have trusted him. He was up against a board who were reluctant to sell, the latter argument being one of sentimentality. I know Dein was angry that the board were still tight on the purse strings towards Wenger, especially now that Arsenal have allegedly the most lucrative stadium in terms of internal merchandise and sales in Europe.

The big worry is that Dein and Wenger were extremely close. Unless Hill-Wood can convince Arsene that their opposition to Yankee investment will not hinder his spending prowess, then it could be bye-bye Arsene in the summer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 10:52:56 PM
Arsenal statement today

Arsenal chairman snubs US buyer

Arsenal chairman Peter Hill-Wood has sent a hands-off warning to American billionaire Stan Kroenke over any potential takeover of the club.
Kroenke recently bought 9.9% of Arsenal and also acquired more shares from major stakeholder Danny Fiszman, sparking talk of a takeover.

But Hill-Wood told the Guardian: "The shareholders would prefer to stay in control than sell out to some stranger.

"We would be horrified to see ownership of the club go across the Atlantic."

606: DEBATE
I was always against a takeover and this may put some rumours to bed

BP

Hill-Wood claims that he and three of the club's major shareholders - Fiszman, Lady Nina Bracewell-Smith and the Carr family - have "no intention of selling".

He added: "These people love Arsenal, they are independently wealthy and do not need the money. Having a few extra million pounds in the bank is of no interest to them.

"We're here for Arsenal football club, not to make a few bob. The club has been run for the benefit of supporters, staff and players."



Dein obviously wants to get in bed with the yanks, and was out voted so he walked

American backers and arab sponsors, potentially explosive mix.

Word on the bush telegraph in North west england is ther "EEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIII" is possibly sussing out a move to merseydive , poor andy johnston  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 18, 2007, 11:06:04 PM
Although only speculation, Dein could be some kind of silent partner now in the takeover, having relinquished his share. Dein was well respected by all at the club and beyond and has been instrumental in making the club what it is now. I'd imagine the smaller shareholders will feel the same way and if they all head the same way as Dein...... I sincerely hope it does happen. It wouldn't change the club's ethos a jot. They talk about the "rigid backbone of tradition" that exists at Arsenal (Bank of England and all that) so it could be a messy one if a struggle for power emerges. I'd back Dein. He's a Gunner to the core. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 11:17:38 PM
Dein, has been the public figure of l'arse in recent years, always good for a soundbite. The average joe will assume he is right and when he reappears in afew weeks , dollar in hand he will rely on that factor to swing the fan/shareholder that his path is right.

it begs the same question we have been asking for a few years now at Utd. What is in it for the yanks? or more so what exaclty is going to happen to the tv deals, becasue they sure as hell are not going to make any real money from shirts and an extra fiver on a brief.

some one some where has spotted a loophole in the tv contract, and they are waiting to use it.

Rem Real Madird have just been handed a fortune for thr rights to their games in an individual deal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 18, 2007, 11:28:10 PM
I don't think American takeovers are going to affect the TV deals in the future. We were heading that way already for years now.

Dein has hardly put a foot wrong for Arsenal up until now. His pursuit of Wenger could prove to be the single most important decision in the history of the club.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on April 18, 2007, 11:40:43 PM
the americans WILL affect the relationship with emirates.

the money is in the TV deal, the yanks know how to work that, if and when it comes off the sponsorship from the likes of the emirate will be tiny in comparison. Utd already have an US sponsor, whos sole aim is to get their insurance products into asia. This week has seen the rearing head of the no alchohol sponsors brigade, which ties in nicely with the US take over of the vermin (note the lack of protest by fans of the local club for local people). The US has rule about who can sponsor what etc (see Mansion not getting sponsorship of utd becasue the gimps owned the bucks).

If the yanks get in, they will buy out emirates deal ala the chavs and emirates/samsung and you will have a nice western politcially , presbtyrian proof sponsor... and prices will rise, you will offically become a CUSTOMER
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 19, 2007, 11:30:54 PM
Away to the Spuds this Saturday morning. A win or a draw for the Gooners and we can all celebrate St Totteringham's Day with a pint or veno. Being honest, I think Spurs have a great chance to beat Arsenal for the first time this century on Saturday. Arsenal are still not firing on all cylinders.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 19, 2007, 11:37:53 PM
And...to get us in the mood....

Martin Jol is out shopping in town when he sees an old lady struggling with her shopping...
MJ "Can you manage, love?"
Old Lady: "Up yours Fat Boy, you took the job, you're stuck with it..."


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 20, 2007, 11:48:12 AM
SOme gems from Baptista here - I have a feeling Arsene has told him his desicion!

Baptista cannot settle at Arsenal 

Julio Baptista's future at Arsenal is in doubt after he revealed he is struggling to adjust to playing in the Premiership and life in England.
The 26-year-old is on a season-long loan from Real Madrid as part of a swap deal for Jose Antonio Reyes.

Baptista told The Times: "The weather over here is killing me. We get one day of sunshine for every 30 days of rain.

"The Premiership is very hard. I enjoy making clever touches but the game is so fast I don't have time to think."

There is still a possibility of Baptista's switch being made permanent but the Brazilian indicated he would rather return to the Bernabeu at the end of the season.

"I could stay at Arsenal but right now I can't see myself anywhere for definite," he explained.

"But it is clear in my mind that I'd tackle a second chance with Real with far more maturity than I did my first.

"My girlfriend and my mother are frightened about not seeing the sun in England. They miss being in Madrid."

Baptista, known as 'The Beast', has not been impressed by some of Arsenal's rivals.

"The teams from the north of England are terrible," Baptista said. "When we play them I have counted their centre-backs booting up to 30 long balls upfield per game.

"The moment you stop to think, someone has taken the ball off you and knocked you to the ground.

"Over here they value a corner kick more than a fancy flick. I am lucky to be with Arsenal, as they are a team that likes to play proper football."


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 21, 2007, 02:34:36 PM
latest

Arsenal 2
Spuds 1

Arsenal coming back from 1-0 down to take lead with ten left, c'mon arsenal!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 21, 2007, 02:52:35 PM
Spurs scrape a draw, Arsenal couldnt hold a party never mind a lead!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2007, 09:57:18 PM
Happy St Totteringham's Day everyone! Earlier than last year.

Thought Spurs would win this one. With Bolton and Evertone losing, a great point.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2007, 10:36:29 PM
The goals.

Toure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDTNQxKPb8g

Adebayor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HOxSZdy8jg
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggysego on April 23, 2007, 01:08:12 PM
I see in the papers today that the Queen of England has come out as an Arsenal supporter. ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on April 23, 2007, 01:17:12 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on April 23, 2007, 01:08:12 PM
I see in the papers today that the Queen of England has come out as an Arsenal supporter. ;)

So now their most famous supporter is the Queen? I suppose it ties in nicely with their best player being a Queen too.......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 08, 2007, 11:43:05 PM
One year on...

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=464902&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=One+year+on+since+Highbury%26rsquo;s+Final+Salute
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 12, 2007, 07:12:52 PM
ARSENAL are considering a summer move for Birmingham keeper Colin Doyle after receiving a string of rave reviews about the youngster.

The strapping 6ft 5ins shot-stopper, 21, has starred for Championship promotion-chasing Blues since displacing the experienced Maik Taylor in February.

Doyle, recently called up to the full Republic of Ireland squad, has just one year left on his contract at St Andrews.

Birmingham started discussions with the youngster about a longterm deal earlier this year, but talks are yet to be finalised.

And news of the delay has reached Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger, who is eyeing up goalkeeping talent as Jens Lehmann, 37, out of contract in the summer, is yet to sign a new one-year deal at the club.

Wenger has cover in Manuel Almunia and Mart Poom, but they are not considered good enough to be the permanent No.1.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/tm_headline=exclusive--doyle-is-no-1-pick-for-arsene&method=full&objectid=18932922&siteid=89520-name_page.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on June 05, 2007, 01:17:51 PM
(http://arseblog.com/columns/whitekit1.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 05, 2007, 08:45:27 PM
Something odd about that photo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on June 05, 2007, 08:48:19 PM
Silvs boots? and how thin are his lower legs??

The socks decrease in length from left to right?

Henrys in it?

Henrys smiling?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 09, 2007, 08:17:53 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ALLSjEYbL-8
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 09, 2007, 08:22:36 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=i3DTfA03vL0&mode=related&search=
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on June 14, 2007, 04:50:15 PM
Next seasons fixures: Hopefully not Wenger's last:

August
Sat 11 Fulham (h)
14/15 UEFA Champions League Qualifier 1st Leg
Sat 18 Blackburn Rovers (a)
Sat 25 Manchester City (h)
28/29 UEFA Champions League Qualifier 2nd Leg

September
Sat 1 Portsmouth (h)
Sat 15 Tottenham Hotspur (a)
18/19 UEFA Champions League Matchday 1
Sat 22 Derby County (h)
Sat 29 West Ham United (a)

October
2/3 UEFA Champions League Matchday 2
Sat 6 Sunderland (h)
Sat 20 Bolton Wanderers (h)
23/24 UEFA Champions League Matchday 3
Sat 27 Liverpool (a)
Wed 31 Carling Cup 4th Round

November
Sat 3 Manchester United (h)
6/7 UEFA Champions League Matchday 4
Sat 10 Reading (a)
Sat 24 Wigan Athletic (h)
27/28 UEFA Champions League Matchday 5

December
Sat 1 Aston Villa (a)
Sat 8 Middlesbrough (a)
11/12 UEFA Champions League Matchday 6
Sat 15 Chelsea (h)
Wed 19 Carling Cup Quarter-final
Sat 22 Tottenham Hotspur (h)
Wed 26 Portsmouth (a)
Sat 29 Everton (a)

January
Tue 1 West Ham United (h)
Sat 5 FA Cup 3rd Round
Wed 9 Carling Cup Semi-final 1st Leg
Sat 12 Birmingham City (h)
Sat 19 Fulham (a)
Wed 23 Carling Cup Semi-final 2nd Leg
Sat 26 FA Cup 4th Round
Tue 29 Newcastle United (h)

February
Sat 2 Manchester City (a)
Sat 9 Blackburn Rovers (h)
Sat 16 FA Cup 5th Round
19/20 UEFA Champions League K/O Round 1st Leg
Sat 23 Birmingham City (a)
Sun 24 Carling Cup Final

March
Sat 1 Aston Villa (h)
4/5 UEFA Champions League K/O Round 2nd Leg
Sat 8 Wigan Athletic (a) or FA Cup Quarter-final
Sat 15 Middlesbrough (h)
Sat 22 Chelsea (a)
Sat 29 Bolton Wanderers (a)

April
1/2 UEFA Champions League Quarter-final 1st Leg
Sat 5 Liverpool (h) or FA Cup Semi-final
8/9 UEFA Champions League Quarter-final 2nd Leg
Sat 12 Manchester United (a)
Sat 19 Reading (h)
22/23 UEFA Champions League Semi-final 1st Leg
Sat 26 Derby County (a)
29/30 UEFA Champions League Semi-final 2nd Leg

May
Sat 3 Everton (h)
Sun 11 Sunderland (a)
Sat 17 FA Cup Final
Wed 21 UEFA Champions League Final (Moscow)

To be Arranged
Newcastle United (a)

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 21, 2007, 10:30:16 PM
So, it was true afterall!

Workman finds remains at Highbury backing up piece of Arsenal folklore

A workman on the site of Arsenal's old stadium may have found evidence to back up a piece of club folklore.

It was long rumored that a horse and cart had fallen into a pit while the original North Bank stand of Highbury stadium was being built in 1913.

The story had seemingly been disproved when no remains were found during the stand's redevelopment in 1992 as part of the efforts to make the stadium an all-seater.

But on Tuesday, the Premier League club - which left Highbury a year ago for the nearby Emirates Stadium - said a worker had found two horseshoes and some wood deep beneath where the North Bank had been.

"One of the lads, who is an Arsenal fan, mentioned the story about the horse,'' said Pat Brennan, the workman who discovered the artifacts. "It's great to think that I may have found some items which have a place in Arsenal's history.''

Highbury has already been razed, with just the facades of the east and west stands remaining to be incorporated into an apartment complex.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/soccer/wires/06/19/2080.ap.eu.spt.soc.arsenal.stadium.discovery/index.html

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=472724&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Pieces+of+Arsenal+folklore+found+at+Highbury?

Van Nistlerooy?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 24, 2007, 07:19:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ4RV1qpPT8
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 02, 2007, 01:57:53 PM
Looks like Eduardo da Silva could be a decent buy..

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nREh1bD0HsY (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nREh1bD0HsY)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Mentalman on July 02, 2007, 03:34:24 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 02, 2007, 01:57:53 PM
Looks like Eduardo da Silva could be a decent buy..

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nREh1bD0HsY (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nREh1bD0HsY)

Think Arsene had turned up another gem here, guy has made a real impact over the last 24months, but at £8million, while not silly money, he'll be under a bit of pressue to show form pretty fast, it's not like he's another of the professors unknown kids.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 02, 2007, 07:10:42 PM
Croatia's big-game poacher strikes again

Goalscorers may be a dying breed but Eduardo da Silva's killer instinct has driven Slaven Bilic's side within striking distance of Euro 2008.
Jonathan Wilson
June 4, 2007

It was just over two years ago that I first began taking notice of Eduardo da Silva. I was drinking coffee in a restaurant in the mountains above Split, looking down over the Adriatic, interviewing Slaven Bilic. The former West Ham and Everton defender is somebody who, if you get him in the right mood, you don't really have to interview. Just set him going and the opinions and the anecdotes roll out.

He'd been on great form that morning, talking about Ciro Blazevic and the '98 World Cup, about the war, about his love of London, about his job as Croatia Under-21 coach. And then he leaned forward across the table with an air of seriousness. "There is a boy," he said, "who is very special. He came from Rio when he was 15, and you could put him now in the team at Manchester United and you wouldn't know he wasn't from there. Believe me, he will do things."

He was right. He has.

To say that Da Silva is the only reason that Croatia lead their Euro 2008 qualifying group would be unfair. Luka Modric, with his Jesper Olsen hair and his Arnold Muhren touch, is a sumptuous player, always finding angles; Robert Kovac remains implacably solid; and Vedran Corluka has emerged as one of the most promising right-backs in Europe. But Da Silva is the main reason.

We live, we are constantly told, is an age without goalscorers; there is a need for forwards to be able to do more than simply stick the ball in the net. A Gerd Müller, a Paolo Rossi or a Gary Lineker would, supposedly, have no place in the modern game. Zoran Filipovic, the former Red Star coach who is now manager of Montenegro, suggested that the levels of fitness and defensive organisation these days mean that the opportunities, the gaps and the mistakes, on which poachers used to rely, no longer exist.

To an extent, he is probably right. And yet, at 24, Da Silva has a goals-to-game record that stands comparison with the great goalscorers of any age. Admittedly he has yet to do it at the very highest level, but it is surely only a matter of time before he is given that opportunity. Even bearing in mind that the Croatian league is only part of Europe's middle rank, his record is extraordinary. Last season Da Silva banged in a record 34 goals in 32 games for Dinamo Zagreb, including the first ever hat-trick in a classico against their great rivals Hajduk Split. In 100 games for Dinamo, he has scored 71 times.

What he brings to the national side is obvious. England were outplayed in Zagreb, but Bilic has since admitted that he feared the game was drifting towards a draw as Paul Robinson made three or four excellent saves and a Niko Kranjcar shot deflected wide off Rio Ferdinand.

But then, just after the hour, Niko Kovac's looping cross from the left found its way to Da Silva eight yards out. He probably could have scored by taking the easy option and heading down to his right, but Robinson was moving that way and might have reached it. So he put the header in the one place he could be sure Robinson wouldn't get to it, shaping his finish back over the goalkeeper and into the top left corner. Robinson was left looking rather foolish, something that was inevitably highlighted as he subsequently missed Gary Neville's backpass to concede a second, but perhaps rather than blaming him we should have been praising the quality of the header.

Da Silva turned a draw into a win, and he was at it again in Tallinn on Saturday, scoring his sixth of the qualifying campaign. Estonia's industry and organisation limited Croatia's chances, but when Kranjcar miscontrolled Corluca's pass, Eduardo swivelled on to the loose ball and hooked a 20-yard finish into the bottom corner. "A misplaced pass, a half-chance, and again we lose," as Estonia's coach Jelle Goes reflected. And that really was how it was.

Perhaps poachers are a dying breed, and perhaps at the very highest level the modern club game has evolved beyond them, but their worth in international football should not be discounted. Perhaps there, where the limited time players have to train together means organisation is not so stifling (Hugo Meisl, the great Austrian coach, reflected on the disparity as early as 1932), those half-chances do still occur. How often, under Sven-Goran Eriksson, did Michael Owen suddenly turn a qualifier, just as Lineker used to save England in the eighties?

Bilic has been bold in promoting young players he knew from the Under-21s, and has finally ended the endless debate about the merits of the classic Balkan style 3-4-1-2 by simply binning it. His 4-1-3-2 has provided technicians like Kranjcar and Modric, even the ageing Milan Rapajic, to prosper, but the real secret of his success, as he knew it would be two years ago, is that he has a player who scores goals.

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/06/04/croatias_biggame_poacher_strik.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 14, 2007, 07:45:02 PM
Barnet 0 Arsenal 2
Adebayor 17, Barazite 66

Manuel Almunia (Lukasz Fabianski 46)
Kolo Toure (Paul Rodgers 67)
Kerrea Gilbert (Havard Nordtveit 46)
Gael Clichy (Armand Traore 46)
Mathieu Flamini
Alexandre Song (Gavin Hoyte 46)
Mark Randall (Kieran Gibbs 46)
Denilson (Henri Lansbury 56)
Theo Walcott (Francisco Merida Perez 67)
Emmanuel Adebayor (Rui Fonte 67)
Robin Van Persie (Nacer Barazite 46)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 16, 2007, 12:19:03 AM
Reyes and the Real winning goal:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=499TYSKaxKY&mode=related&search=

Loses the run of himself - http://youtube.com/watch?v=3x7gu-7WXvI&mode=related&search=

Well Holy God - http://youtube.com/watch?v=VjDyQeICLfY&mode=related&search=
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 19, 2007, 09:16:57 PM
Genclerbirligi 0
Arsenal 3
Van Persie 45, 65, Walcott 51

Arsenal

    * Manuel Almunia     * Lukasz Fabianski 46
    * Kolo Toure     * Philippe Senderos 69
    * Gael Clichy     * Armand Traore 46
    * Bacary Sagna     * Emmanuel Eboue 46
    * Denilson     * Francesc Fabregas 69
    * Mark Randall     * Tomas Rosicky 46    * Fredrik Ljungberg 69     
    * Mathieu Flamini     * Abou Diaby 69
    * Alexandre Song    * Johan Djourou 69
    * Theo Walcott    * Alexander Hleb 69
    * Robin Van Persie    * Eduardo Da Silva 69
    * Emmanuel Adebayor    * Nicklas Bendtner 69

Bacary Sagna and Eduardo made their debuts as Arsenal began their Austria tour by beating Genclerbirligi 3-0 at Bad Waltersdorf Stadion on Wednesday night.

The French full back played the first half and the Croatian striker came on for the final 21 minutes in this comprehensive victory over the side that had finished sixth in the Turkish League last season.

Robin van Persie scored two of the goals but the other player on the scoresheet, Theo Walcott, really took the eye. The 18-year-old supplied an exquisite pass for Van Persie to slide home Arsenal's first with the final kick of the first half. Six minutes after the break Emmanuel Adebayor and Denilson set up the former Southampton winger to fire low into the far corner.

The two accomplices in that move also deserve a mention for their performances. Adebayor was eager and industrious, Denilson assured and efficient. The Togolese striker set up Van Persie for his second in the 63rd minute.

Overall, it was an excellent workout for Arsène Wenger's side.

The only change from the side that had kicked-off Arsenal's pre-season campaign on Saturday at Barnet was the introduction of Sagna for Kerrea Gilbert at right back. Ten of the 12 first-team players named on the bench were making their seasonal debut, including Eduardo. The exceptions were Lukasz Fabianski and Armand Traore.

It had been roasting in this part of Austria ever since Arsenal's arrival on Tuesday. The players knew all al about it, they had been training in it for two hard days. Fortunately the heat had started to dissipate by the time the game kick-off at 7pm (CET) but it was still painfully warm.

Despite that the start was not lethargic. Within 50 seconds, Manuel Almunia was forced to tip over as Okan Ozturk let fly from the right-channel.

In the fifth minute, Robin van Persie's raking cross-field ball was controlled deftly by the sprinting Theo Walcott on the right flank but he just failed to find Adabayor in the centre.

Genclerbirligi responded when Sandro's mazy dribble and shot was smuggled around the post.

Adeabyor was looking full of energy. In the 12th minute he charged down a clearance on the halfway line, sprinted down the right, skipped past Lamin's lunge and pulled the ball back for Van Persie eight yards out. Unfortunately the Dutchman lent back as he struck the ball and skied his effort horribly over the bar.

However he did make amends on the quarter-hour by forcing Genclerbirligi keeper Gokhan into a flying save.

By now the game has seemed to settle into a pattern of Arsenal having the majority of the play, but their opponents having the best chances.

That continued in the 28th minute when Sandro's right-wing corner was nodded on to the unmarked Tolga Dogantez at the far post. Almunia was out typically quickly to smother hits shot.

Ten minutes before the break, Adebayor broke clear and fed the ball back to Randall, who in turn set up Van Persie just outside the area. His shot was low and firm but Gokhan gathered at the second attempt.

It had been a relatively mundane 45 minutes albeit with some moments of quality. The best move brought the opening goal on the whistle. Walcott picked up the ball on the right and turned on the turbo to breezed past his marker before sliding a wonderfully weighted ball to the far post. Robin van Persie did the rest with a low finish.

Walcott was involved at the start of the second half, forcing Gokhan to save with his feet at the near post. Almost immediately, Adebayor sent a cross-shot whistling past the far post.

Arsenal looked like they wanted to kill off the game. They virtually did in the 51st minute. Denilson strode through midfield and fed the ball to Adebayor on the left. He passed back to the Brazilian who elected to let the ball run. His dummy fooled the Genclerbirligi defence and Walcott found the far corner of the net with aplomb.

Suddenly the rust was starting to fall off Arsenal. They began to move through the gears with ease; a fact amply illustrated by their third goal in the 65th minute. Adebayor held up the ball with intelligence before laying the ball to Van Persie to rifle home.

Eduardo made his appearance soon afterwards. He first touch sent a questioning ball to the far post which a defender had to turn behind. Eleven minutes from time, he tricked his way past his marker on the right and sent over a teasing cross that Ljungberg nodded wide.

On the strength of his 21 minutes, they'll much more to come.



http://www.arsenal.com/matchreport.asp?thisNav=fixtures&fxid=319627
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 23, 2007, 03:02:04 PM
And Freddie is gone, one of my favourites, good business sense as he has lost his pace and is very injury prone but another experienced pro gone, the Goons average age must be 16 now....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on July 23, 2007, 05:46:15 PM
saw highlights of it on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qeu5ZeQvn7U&mode=related&search=), theo seemed sharp as hell, completely skinned defender for crossing to RVP, Sagna looks to fit in straight away with his runs down the flank, wonder will wenger use eboue as right winger this year?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 23, 2007, 08:41:28 PM
Great memories Freddie.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on July 23, 2007, 09:18:44 PM
freddie will be missed bigtime, he lost his pace due to numerous injuries over the past few seasons but he still was able to arrive into the box late and claim the odd goal...plays his heart out everytime he put on the jersey, some great memories! he'll be missed!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on July 24, 2007, 02:16:47 PM
Quote from: hitzelsperger on July 23, 2007, 09:18:44 PM
freddie will be missed bigtime, he lost his pace due to numerous injuries over the past few seasons but he still was able to arrive into the box late and claim the odd goal...plays his heart out everytime he put on the jersey, some great memories! he'll be missed!

maybe a few seasons ago, but not over the last few years. I think wenger has done well again , to get 3 million(ish) for him at this stage of his career. Took these stats from sky

                                      1998-99 1999-00* 2000-01 2001-02 2002-03 2003-04 2004-05 2005-06 2006-07
Appearances                       16           26            30      25         20        30           26        25         18
Goals                                  1             6               6       12         6          4            10        1            0
Goal Assists                          0             2              6         4          1         5              8        3            0

saying that he will probably score against us next season!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on July 24, 2007, 02:30:38 PM
Ljunberg is a  tube, even dyed his hair red for the FA Cup semi final against the authentic N.London club in 2001 >:(

Still he has made a wise choice, he is more likely to enjoy success at Upton Park next season than the Haemorrhoids Stadium ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 29, 2007, 06:30:44 PM
Watched a bit of the Emirates Cup over the weekend, poor fair on Saturday but the goons looked much sharper against Inter, peach of a goal by Van Persie to win it, will definitely be the youngest side in the premiership next season...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on July 29, 2007, 11:41:52 PM
absolutely brilliant goal by RVP today...hes gona be massive for us this coming season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 02, 2007, 10:13:13 AM
Ajax tournament tonight, should be a good warm-up..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: wesaysanchez on August 04, 2007, 10:16:09 PM
Another good win tonight, 1-0 over Ajax. Van Persie scored the winner in the 87th and was then taken out immediately after - looked serious. Ajax were extremely dirty throughout and seemed to target home-man RVP. AW lost the nut. With Adebayor out as well as this  - bad timing. Still, a second pre-season tournament trophy.

Second half coming up now on - mms://live.wm.arsenal.servecast.net/arsenal_wmlz_xx_secure_live450k
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 12, 2007, 05:04:23 PM
Arse 2 Fulham 1

Same old same old. Own he ball, try to walk it into the net. Lehmann is a serious liability now. Hleb and Rosicky are talented ball players but their goals to shots ratio must be the worst in the league, that's when Hleb decides to shoot.

A win's a win.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on August 12, 2007, 07:06:24 PM
Who's back-up keeper now at Arsenal? or will Wenger have any faith in him?
Lehmann is a real liability, laughable error today
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 12, 2007, 08:38:32 PM
Haven't seen the highlights yet so can't comment too much, will take the win and the belief this victory will give a young squad cannot be underestimated, 1 down with 7 mins to go and win 2 - 1, great stuff. The mad German is probably past it hopefully Fabianski is up to it, Wenger is odd when it comes to goalies and defending in general...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2007, 02:31:27 PM
This brought a smile to my face..

http://www.fanbanta.com/content/assets/9379.publisha (http://www.fanbanta.com/content/assets/9379.publisha)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 14, 2007, 03:08:40 PM
Is this fella sagna any good??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on August 14, 2007, 05:37:32 PM
sagna is what wenger typically looks for in a full back, strong, athletic and fast.....he seems to be exact same type of player as eboue and lauren before him...saw few clips of them combining down the right against fulham, looked pretty good. also anyone see clichys run to set up RVP for goal in Ajax tournament, quality...heres to a big season where RVP will finish top goalscorer and player of the year to add to his CL medal :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2007, 05:41:37 PM
I reckon Wenger has a little cloning machine, he cloned Ashley Cole and so far Clichy, Hoyte, Eboue and Sagna have been produced. Must admit I like the look of Eboue and Sagna down the right..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 14, 2007, 05:45:03 PM
Did any of yiz read Charlie Nicholas' article in the Sunday World supplement....he fairly goes to town on Henry and his negative influence on the players in recent years.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2007, 04:01:11 PM
Highlights v Prague

http://www.fcfootballblog.com/sparta-prague-0-2-arsenal-highlights/

Decent win against a robust side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 19, 2007, 09:38:29 PM
Black 1 Arse 1

Hughes and Allardyce have Arsenal's number, and continue to kick the new 'steelier' Gunners around the field. Still, with Gallas (off early), Rosicky and Eboue out as well as Adebayor, will take that result. Big Jens is having a 'nare season so far:

Jens error - http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1271750

RVP goal - http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1271548

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on August 20, 2007, 10:56:57 PM
correct hardstation, thats 2 goals we've conceeded due to errors by the mad german, i knew wenger should have let him go at the end of the season, i always thought almunia was as good a keeper as JL and apparently this young polish keeper is showing promise but wil need a year or two. will be interesting to see if wenger 'rotates' goalkeepers for the next game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2007, 09:43:26 PM
Goalkeeping crisis?

What crisis?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ApQDfnAQE0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 25, 2007, 09:00:26 PM
Arse 1 Manchester 0

Good start to the season continues. Serious defensive injury setbacks though. Bad enough losing Gallas, then Senderos does one warming up. Gilberto drafted in as emergency CB. A few mins in, Sagna collides with Flamini and he's off injured. Flamini covers for Sagna and Denilson comes on. Thought Fabregas was excellent - he seems to play better when Gilberto's around. Poor penalty by RVP. Hleb finally found a man after 519 attempts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 29, 2007, 10:36:16 PM
Love Is All Around At The Emirates

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44086000/jpg/_44086066_eduardo_celeb_416.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 31, 2007, 09:00:49 PM
Portsmouth on Sunday. Pompey put up a good fight v Chelsea. No walk over. Another narrow Arsenal victory will suffice.

The Russian involvement - they actually seem to be Arsenal fans but Dein's involvement seems more puzzling. He seems to have done on on his 'mate' Kroenke. A friend, and insider at the club, told me:

The Russian goes, with Boris. They go in the same box. The other guy - I don't know, but I would assume so.

Don't get me wrong, we don't need their money. But we knew that Dein was going to sell his shares at somepoint. He was it looked like going to join up with or sell to Kroenke. He has instead sold to an Arsenal fan who has stated in the media they are not looking to take over the club. By my books that is far far better than having he unstability of waiting for Dein to make up his mind or selling to Kroenke who would load the club with debt. They have also stated one of their most important aims is to keep Wenger. As Kroenke has said bugger all I certainly believe that most shareholders will see this as a very positive move and it removes a lot of speculation as Kroenke is very unlikely to be able to get enough shares together to do anything more now. Which is very good news for the club.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 01, 2007, 02:01:15 PM
Arsenal sign Lasanna Diarra for £2 million.

Decent wee signing there, although he is not as versatille as Arsene suggests. He probably didn't get the chances at Chelsea as he deserved in his best position which is the 'Maka' role. Jose tried him at RB last year, and he did ok but was turned and beat for pace many times accruing bookings along the way. Personally I'd of like to keep him over Makalele due to the age factor, but at 22 I don't think Diarra wanted to hang around.

Good Luck to him......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 14, 2007, 11:35:36 PM
BIG-MATCH FACTS

This is the 141st north London league derby between Tottenham and Arsenal, and their 31st clash in the Premier League.

Tottenham are looking for a 50th victory in the 156th competitive meeting with their near neighbours.

Arsenal have won three of their four Premier League matches this season; Tottenham have lost three of their five.

The Gunners have drawn their last four away league games; including the 2-2 stalemate at White Hart Lane on 21 April, the only occasion Arsenal have scored more than a single goal in eight Premier League outings on the road.

Spurs have not beaten Arsenal this century, nor in 18 League and Cup matches with their fierce rivals, since George Graham's side achieved a 2-1 home Premier League victory on 7 November 1999, when Steffen Iversen and Tim Sherwood were on target, and Arsenal's Martin Keown and Freddie Ljungberg were both sent off. That was Tottenham's only maximum in 23 north London League derbies.

David Pleat, Glenn Hoddle and Jacques Santini never got the better of Arsene Wenger as Tottenham managers. Now Martin Jol will make his ninth attempt to do so (in league and cup).

CLUB FORM

TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR
Club stats
Fixtures

1. Won one of five Premier League matches this season; 4-0, home to Derby on 18 August.

2. Managed only three clean sheets in 33 league matches.

3. Kept fewer clean sheets than any other club in the Premier League last season (six).

4. Four points after the first five outings is on a par with last season.

5. Scored eight league goals and conceded eight so far this season.

6. Lost one of the last eight home Premier League matches; 1-3, against Everton on 18 August.

7. The 4-0 victory over Derby in the last home game was their second clean sheet in 16 league outings at the Lane.

8. Completed 33 games since a Premier League no score draw; the most recent being away to Watford on 28 October.

9. Holding the highest number of different scorers in the Premier League (seven).

10. This match precedes the Uefa Cup first round first leg tie home to Anorthosis Famagusta of Cyprus next Thursday.

ARSENAL
Club stats
Fixtures

1. Won the last three in all competitions; 1-0, home to Manchester City (PL), 3-0 home to Sparta Prague (CL) and 3-1, home to Portsmouth (PL).

2. Unbeaten in 11 Premier League games; won six and drawn five since losing 0-1, home to West Ham on 7 April.

3. One of four clubs still holding an unbeaten Premier League record. The others are Blackburn, Liverpool and Newcastle.

4. Dropped just two points. Only Liverpool have also dropped so few.

5. Holding the joint highest Premier League points-per-game average of 2.5, equal with Liverpool.

6. Awarded and scored more penalties than any other club in the Premier League last season; converted 10 of 12. Already awarded three spot kicks in four outings, and converted two of them.

7. Without an away league victory in six; drawn four and lost two since beating Aston Villa 0-1 on 14 March - their only victory in eight on the road.

8. This match precedes the Champions League Group H tie, home to Sevilla of Spain on Wednesday.

KEY PLAYER NOTES

TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR

Steed MALBRANQUE is Tottenham's top scorer with two Premier League goals.

If he plays:-

Jermaine JENAS will be making his 200th career league appearance (Nottingham Forest, Newcastle and Tottenham).

Jermain DEFOE will be making his 200th career Premier League appearance (West Ham and Tottenham).

ARSENAL

Cesc FABREGAS is the joint top scoring Premier League player with Nicolas ANELKA of Bolton. Both have netted four goals. All four of ANELKA's goals were in the Premier League, whereas only half of FABREGAS' total were league goals.

Arsenal's joint top Premier League scorers are FABREGAS and last season's leading marksman, Robin VAN PERSIE. They have netted two each.

If he plays:-

Gilberto SILVA will be making his 150th Premier League appearance - all for the Gunners.

If on the field from the outset:-

Gael CLICHY will be making his 50th Premier League start in an Arsenal shirt.

Justin HOYTE will be making his 50th career league start.

Suspended:-

Phillipe SENDEROS (one match)

HEAD TO HEAD

Arsenal have won one and drawn six of the last seven Premier League visits to White Hart Lane.

Tottenham have managed victory in only one of the last 11 home league matches against their north London rivals.

Home and away
League (inc PL): Spurs 45 wins, Arsenal 57, Draws 38
Prem: Spurs 5 wins, Arsenal 11, Draws 14

at Spurs only
League (inc PL): Spurs 28 wins, Arsenal 22, Draws 20
Prem: Spurs 4 wins, Arsenal 3, Draws 8

LAST SEASON'S CORRESPONDING GAME

Tottenham Hotspur 2-2 Arsenal
21 April 2007 - Ref: Mike Dean
Spurs scorers: Keane 30, Jenas 90
Arsenal scorers: Toure 64, Adebayor 78

REFEREE

Mark Clattenburg (Tyne & Wear)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 16, 2007, 12:06:58 AM
Top top top of the League  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 16, 2007, 12:16:25 AM
Almost felt sorry for Spurs.

Almost.

Amazing the difference Henry's departure has made. Players who had the talent all along are now showing it, because of the freedom his absence has created. Fabregas oozes class, frightening for a lad of that age. Great to see the Gunners score unArsenal-like goals (Cesc's screamer and Adebayor's have-a-go.

Always great to bate the Spuds.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 16, 2007, 03:40:10 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 16, 2007, 12:16:25 AM
Almost felt sorry for Spurs.

Almost.

Amazing the difference Henry's departure has made. Players who had the talent all along are now showing it, because of the freedom his absence has created. Fabregas oozes class, frightening for a lad of that age. Great to see the Gunners score unArsenal-like goals (Cesc's screamer and Adebayor's have-a-go.

Always great to bate the Spuds.

While not ever talking badly about thierry, I never believed the stories of his controlling nature until the results of his departure have began to showthemselves on the field this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on September 16, 2007, 10:17:29 AM
I still feel something is missing from the team. Spurs created chances but did not take them. Maybe when gilberto is back in midfield it will tighten it. We need to get some cover at centre back. I would like to see some more of eduardo too. Championsleague game during the week could be an ideal occassion for him. Lets not forget in january we will be without Toure, Eboue, Adebayor so it is important to have everyone with plenty of game time (apart from senderos,as he is shit!)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on September 16, 2007, 12:23:04 PM
massive win yesterday, i may be biased but fabregas must be the best midfielder in the premiership and in the top 3 in europe, simply world class!!

great to see abebayor getting a couple and the second was a screamer, he works his socks off up front for us and about time he got his rewards...need fab, RVP, rosicky and toure to stay fit, key players to our season being sucessful

up the arse!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 19, 2007, 10:47:33 PM
Another nice performance. Feared Seville as I've seen plenty of them over the last year, but any team that comes out to play pure football against Arsenal usually suffer. Hleb is on serious form. Fabregas unstoppable. Senderos still the week link.

Home to Derby next.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: kinghen on September 20, 2007, 10:19:19 AM
thought arsenal were awesome last night (in parts) but your right its been proven in recent times that if you try to match arsenal as a technical, passing, footballing side then you usually get punished. its normally the blackburns, boltons etc who give us the trouble! although i think the team this year has shown more glimpses of "fighting" for posession!

cesc=unreal
rvp=more to come
toure=brilliant
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on September 24, 2007, 05:53:11 PM
Arsenal Holdings plc has announced their financial results for the year ending May 31, 2007. A brief overview is shown below.
Group turnover and operating profit at record levels:

- Turnover increased by 46% to £200.8 million (2006 - £137.2 million)

- Group operating profits* increased by 274% to £51.2 million (2006 - £13.7 million)
Match day revenues from the Club's first season at Emirates Stadium were £90.6 million, representing £3.1 million per game and being more than double the £44.1 million achieved in the previous year at Highbury.
£260 million of bonds with long-dated maturities and a weighted average fixed interest rate of 5.3% were issued in the year to refinance all of the Group's stadium related debt providing a significant reduction in annual debt service costs for the long term.
The Group's cash balances rose to £73.9 million (2006 - £35.6 million).91% of the units at "The Stadium - Highbury Square" are already pre-sold. The final completion sales value for all units is expected to comfortably exceed £300 million
Arsène Wenger has extended his contract as Arsenal manager through to 2011 and will become the longest serving manager in the Club's history.
Commenting on the results for the year, Peter Hill-Wood, non-executive chairman, said:

"The best way that Arsenal can continue to deliver success is by maintaining a business that pays its own way. This philosophy helped establish our objectives for the Club's move away from Highbury and Emirates Stadium now provides Arsenal with the increased income, profitability, cash generation and firm financial foundations from which we will continue to build trophy winning Arsenal teams for many years to come."

*(before player trading and depreciation)

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 28, 2007, 09:04:21 PM
The football Arsenal have been playing lately has been absolutely sublime. Sheer bliss and more importantly with an end product. Unfortunately Hleb, Rosicky and Eduardo appear to have picked up knocks, furthering the pressure on Fabregas to perform.

Anyone want to do a Smoking Joe and trade cheques at this early stage? I'm willing to wager £20 that Fabregas will get the Football Writers Player of the Year even though it's only Sept.

I was reading lately that he has been directly involved in Arsenal's last 11 goals - be it a direct assist or scoring. Frightening he's 20.

West Ham tomorrow. Would take a draw. Lost there last year as Wenger lost the rag.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 29, 2007, 07:04:08 PM
So the gunners march on with a decent victory at upton park. This would be the sweetest league title ever, if it happened.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hoopsaaa on September 29, 2007, 08:44:58 PM
It would be a real nice one. But we need a bit of rain and muck. we play the scum and the pool within 7 days we will know better then. Jasus Wenger is a genius he really is. ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on September 30, 2007, 12:36:29 PM
relieved after yesterdays game...no doubt freddies goal was on side and ashton should have put header away but thats the luck ya get whenb your the best team in the land  ;D

diaby seems to get better with ever game which is great to see cos he has all the attributes that a young patrick vieira had!

the tackle on hleb was a joke, i thought his ankle was broke...hopefully he'll be back soon cos hes been playing quality stuff this season!

RVP is quality!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 30, 2007, 08:19:43 PM
QuoteVery lucky today lads. Fcuk all wrong with Freddie's goal. Dean Ashton should have buried thon header!

Lucky in the sense that they got the Freddie decision but they deserved the win, Foster was man of the match and Arsenal were fantastic at times, terrible tackle on Helb and Noble should have seen red. This team can only get better....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 02, 2007, 07:38:44 PM
Lunch has been ordered, setanta is on, the desk is littered with papers making it look like im busy, and we are ready to roll!
Hup the gunners.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hoopsaaa on October 02, 2007, 08:35:15 PM
poor game so far.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 02, 2007, 08:37:05 PM
Not great at all. Poor miss by fabregas.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 02, 2007, 08:53:07 PM
Lazy from Arsenal so far. Steau are shoite but could nick one.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 02, 2007, 09:29:49 PM
Goal

http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1432279
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hoopsaaa on October 02, 2007, 10:38:04 PM
But they are starting to dig out the odd win - good sign but its so bloddy early in the season - remember the invincibles ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 05, 2007, 07:54:59 PM
The messiah speaks:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/sol/newsid_7030000/newsid_7030600/7030627.stm?bw=bb&mp=rm&news=1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 07, 2007, 05:44:29 PM
Arse 3 Sunderland 2

http://profile.imeem.com/sDhAuiX/video/IGw6k-Cf/arsenal_vs_sunderland_sports_video/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 15, 2007, 04:21:41 PM
from arsenal.com

Emmanuel Adebayor's hopes of qualifying for January's African Cup of Nations were dashed on Friday. Sevilla striker Freddi Kanoute and Mamadou Diallo scored in either half for Mali as they ran out 2-0 winners in Lome. The result is good news for Arsenal fans as it means Adebayor will not miss a large chunk of early 2008 as expected.

Thats great news. We will only be without toure and eboue now. Hopefully the games that djourou is getting with birmingham will help him fill in for toure as i dont trust senderos
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on October 15, 2007, 04:26:38 PM
Yeah, very good news indeed... If only Toure would quit internationals!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 18, 2007, 07:58:44 PM
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Arsenal commission bust of Arsène Wenger

Arsenal Football Club is delighted to announce that it has commissioned a bust of Arsène Wenger, which will take place of honour at Emirates Stadium.

An exact replica of the bust was unveiled by Arsenal Chairman Peter Hill-Wood at the Club's AGM at Emirates Stadium on Thursday in front of hundreds of Shareholders.

The final version of the bust, which will be cast in bronze and completed by the end of the year, has been created by figurative sculptor Etienne Millner, who has been painstakingly working on the piece for the past eight months.

After unveiling the bust, which the Club kept a secret from Wenger until the AGM, Arsenal Chairman Peter Hill-Wood said: "We are delighted to have commissioned a bust of Arsène Wenger, which will be located in an appropriate place of honour at Emirates Stadium.

"The bust is in recognition of the truly fantastic job which Arsène has done at Arsenal Football Club. Since joining us in 1996, Arsène has guided Arsenal teams to seven major trophies and has revolutionised the Club, not only through the brand of stylish and successful football which his teams play, but through his detailed and insightful input into the development of Emirates Stadium and our Training Centre at London Colney.

"Only recently, we were delighted to announce that Arsène signed an extension to his contract, keeping him at the Club until 2011. He will, as a result of this contract extension, become the longest serving manager in the history of the Club."

The bust of Arsène Wenger will join three other famous busts to be associated with Arsenal Football Club and particularly Highbury Stadium, where a bust of legendary manager Herbert Chapman greeted visitors to the famous Marble Halls in the East Stand of the Gunners' old stadium.

The other two busts at Highbury were of former Chairman Denis Hill-Wood (Peter's late father), which took pride of place in the Directors' Landing in the East Stand, while the West Stand was home to a bust of Claude Waterlow Ferrier, the designer of that stand at Highbury.

Since the move from Highbury, all three of these busts have been in safe storage, pending a decision on their final appropriate locations at Emirates Stadium.

Etienne Millner's previous commissions are wide ranging and have included monumental portraiture, figure groups, busts of politicians, writers and musicians. Among them are Sir Lennox Berkeley, Lord and Lady Harris of Peckham, Toyah Willcox, Adrian Daintrey, Viscount Whitelaw, Field Marshal Sir Claude Auchinleck, Lord Thurlow, Rumer Godden, Sir Derek Alun-Jones, Lord Allenby, Lord Balfour of Inchrye, Count Jules Dembinski and Alexander Wyndham.

Further details on the final location of the Arsène Wenger bust at Emirates Stadium, together with the three other famous busts, will feature on Arsenal.com in the near future.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 23, 2007, 09:35:55 PM
How impressive is that scoreline. On another note however, what about this eejit!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7058711.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7058711.stm)

Lehmann issues threat to Wenger 

Lehmann is not happy at playing second fiddle to Almunia
Arsenal keeper Jens Lehmann has warned he may publicly air his grievances with Arsene Wenger if he does not play soon.
Lehmann's errors and injuries at the start of the season gave Manuel Almunia his chance and he is now first-choice ahead of the fit-again German stopper.

The 37-year-old told German TV channel Premiere: "I think - and this is aimed at my dear manager - one shouldn't humiliate players for too long.

"It's possible that some day I'll feel like talking about the whole issue."

Lehmann's comments come after he was left out of the Arsenal squad against Bolton last Saturday - a game he expected to play in after impressing for Germany earlier this month.

Almunia has not yet showed that he can win matches for us

Jens Lehmann

But Wenger, who dropped Lehmann after he gifted Blackburn an equaliser in the 1-1 draw on 19 August, stuck with Almunia and put young keeper Lukasz Fabianski on the bench.

"At the moment I'm just swallowing it all as part of the humiliation. That's something one has to take in, " Lehmann said.

"But I'm an Arsenal player and I won't just fade away quietly."

Lehmann is also bemused by Wenger's statement that he has three "world-class" goalkeepers to pick from.

"One of them must be me," he suggested. "The other two have proved their class by winning titles? If I think about that, I can't recall any. I guess today you're nevertheless world-class."

Lehmann won the Uefa Cup in 1997 with Schalke 04, the Bundesliga title in 2002 with Borussia Dortmund and the Premier League with Arsenal in 2004.

And he made it clear he feels he should still be the number one at the Emirates Stadium.

"I'm convinced that I'll be playing again. Almunia has not yet showed that he can win matches for us," Lehmann added.

"I've experienced this situation before and know what the others are expecting from the goalkeeper. I can't imagine he'll be able to handle that."





Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 23, 2007, 09:40:19 PM
Awesome Arsenal tonight. Prague tried to pass the ball. Big mistake. Not much more to be said.

As for the German eejit: a few said to me today, Lehmann is well capable of humiliating himself on the field anyway....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Balboa on October 23, 2007, 09:46:11 PM
The Jerry seems to be a real team player...........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on October 23, 2007, 10:03:29 PM
Just seen the highlights of the match, some good goals and passing, hope mad Jens airs his dirty washing in public.... ashley cole and a phone springs to mind
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 23, 2007, 10:14:32 PM
Arsenal have scored enough goals this week now they will hardly wanna score more against Liverpool at they weekend that would be just plain greedy
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Balboa on October 23, 2007, 10:35:13 PM
In fairness to the Gunners that they are turning into a serious outfit.......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on October 23, 2007, 10:41:40 PM
gooners were awesome tonight, to be fair to prague they came to play ball but paid for it bigtime, cant give arsenal space to play or your goin to get tanked..great to see theo getting a few, hes finally starting to show the class he has. cesc is the real deal and quickly turning into best in the business and still only 21. awesome. up the arse!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hoopsaaa on October 23, 2007, 11:36:56 PM
Now that was some performance ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 24, 2007, 01:48:38 AM
December and January-feb will be crucial for this young team.
Still though, awesome performance.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 24, 2007, 08:15:10 AM
Fantastic performance, such a young side as well, Gallas must feel like a grand-dad, even two draws against Liverpool and Mau Ure will leave Arseanl sitting pretty at the top...

Fabregas - 20
Walcott - 18
Sagna - 24
Toure - 25
Clichy - 22
Flamini - 23
Adebayor - 23
Eboue - 24
Bentender - 19


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on October 24, 2007, 09:05:03 AM
Cashley Cole must feel like Pete Best when he left the Beatles!!
Lets just hope we can get two good results over the Scousers and Mancs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 24, 2007, 10:23:03 AM
Savage performance last night. Now that Henry and Cole are gone, Arsenal are a very likeable team in general, and in fairness they play some outstanding soccer. Of course I hope we (Liverpool) do ye at Anfield, but credit where credit is due. Team of the season so far without a doubt.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: corn02 on October 24, 2007, 10:45:56 AM
Will you be confident against us this weekend? Some performnce last night. Draw for me at the weekend.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 24, 2007, 10:49:17 AM
Arsenal got their fingers burned at Anfield last season. Having walloped them 3-1 and 6-3 there in the cups, the Reds humiliated Wenger 4-1 in late March.

The teams then:

Liverpool: Reina, Arbeloa, Carragher, Agger, Aurelio, Pennant, Alonso, Mascherano (Riise 82), Gonzalez (Zenden 69), Gerrard (Kuyt 56), Crouch.
Goals: Crouch 4, 35, Agger 60, Crouch 81.

Arsenal: Lehmann, Eboue (Hoyte 82), Toure, Gallas, Clichy, Hleb, Fabregas, Diaby (Rosicky 65), Denilson, Julio Baptista (Ljungberg 65), Adebayor.
Goals: Gallas 73.


As for last night, it was one of those occasions when you just needed to appreciated Wenger's artwork and forget about trophies and getting your name on a roll of honour. Occasionally in 2002 and 2004, they produced that type of football. It was a pleasure to sit back and watch it. There still is the strong possibility that Arsenal haven't the steeliness to last the long winter months.


I remember reading this article last March: Would we be prepared, as supporters, to trade last night's spectacle for trophies?

Losing in style: how Arsenal discovered an ugly truth about the Beautiful Game

Simon Barnes

Arsenal: a nation mourns. They lost the Carling Cup final, despite playing better than Chelsea. They were knocked out of the FA Cup, despite playing better than Blackburn Rovers over two matches. They have lost all chance of winning the Barclays Premiership, despite playing better than Manchester United, Chelsea and Liverpool. They are in danger of failing to qualify for the Champions League next season, despite playing better than all the clubs below them. And now they are out of Europe's premier club competition this season, despite playing better than PSV Eindhoven over two legs and playing better than all eight clubs that remain in the competition.

It's not really fair, is it? But then Arsenal's football was not better in terms of goals and victories and all that; it was better morally. Arsenal play the right way. They play with style and brio, with beautiful passes, with intricate patterns, with wit and charm. They also play with youth, plucked from the ranks and taught to seek and find greatness.

This season Arsenal produced a team of pure and dizzy talent, the distilled essence of football. They embodied every kind of footballing virtue. Question: does defeat in four competitions destroy the moral argument? Does rightness depend on victory? Or is there really a right way and wrong way to play? Is it better to lose the right way than win the wrong way?

After one season in which Arsenal had the upper hand over United, Sir Alex Ferguson, the United manager, said that his team may have lost, but they played the better — ie, the more attractive — football. The comment of Arsene Wenger, the Arsenal manager, has gone into legend: "Everyone thinks he has the prettiest wife at home."

But this season, Arsenal really are the prettiest. None but the most besotted and uxorious of one-eyed fans can deny this. They are better than everyone else, but not good enough to win anything. Where does that leave us?

Well then, what does being the best, the prettiest and most morally perfect football team entail? It is not a question of good behaviour, keeping to the rules, not diving, not kicking opponents. Arsenal have been guilty of all these things, but that does not contradict the belief that they play "the right way".

No, a team that play "good" football are one that please the senses of the observers. They are just nicer to watch. There is unquestionably an aesthetic dimension to football. The famous Danny Blanchflower dictum — that the game is not about winning but about glory and doing things in style — still has a deep resonance.

In 1988, when Liverpool played Wimbledon in the FA Cup Final, people wrote that Liverpool were "playing for the good name of English football". Liverpool were morally good because they played a game based on passing and cute triangles. Wimbledon were morally bad because they lumped the ball up the middle at a beastly centre forward. One team were moral, one team were immoral. The immoral team won 1-0, proving what?

In the early 1980s, football people were outraged by the theory of POMO: the Position Of Maximum Opportunity — ie, whack the ball into the penalty area as many times as possible and it will end up in the net by sheer statistical inevitability. This was rejected by many as heresy, not just because it is less effective than pretty football, but because it is morally wrong.

Cesc Fàbregas, the heart and soul of the young and lovely Arsenal team, rebuked Mark Hughes, the Blackburn manager and a former Barcelona player, because his team — successful against Arsenal in the FA Cup replay — did not play "Barcelona football". As if this failure was a moral outrage.

Blackburn played defensively, sought to stifle and intimidate, imposed themselves as far as the laws and the referee would allow them. Is that immoral? Would they have been more moral if they had, despite lacking the playing resources, attempted to play like Barcelona (or, for that matter, Arsenal) and lost 4-0? You tell me. We all know that football has no marks for artistic impression, but as a neutral I still wanted Arsenal to win. I can argue long and hard and probably correctly that Arsenal's moral stance is utterly bogus, but I am still a sucker for glory and doing things in style.

We all are, except when we have partisanship to deal with. In the rugby union World Cup of 2003, England were criticised for their lack of style. Is that all you've got? Look at the bloody scoreboard, we replied. Style is for wimps, we've got Jonny and Jonno.

Yet, when England choose to kick a penalty rather than run it at Twickenham, there are always boos. The crowd wants victory, but the right way, with lots of running and passing and rolling mauls and line-breaking forwards. A bit of glory. So why aren't the Barbarians everyone's favourite rugby team? They always go for glory. But it doesn't convince us because we know that there is nothing at stake. It's not real, it's just a bit of fun. We want glory in the context of the search for big prizes and persuade ourselves that there is a moral rightness in that course.

There is a tendency to see all those who play extravagantly as morally right because they entertain us. But do we really want every athlete to be like Henri Leconte, a tennis player who cared little whether he won or lost so long as he went the pretty way? Ilie Nastase was adored at Wimbledon for his style and swagger; he was twice a finalist but doomed to lose. Pete Sampras, one of the all-time greats in all sports, was disliked because he was "boring"; this was seen by some as a moral failing.

In the 1960s, cricket became so attritional, so totally based on defeat-avoidance, that they had to invent a new form of the game. One-day cricket came about because the traditional version of the game had turned its back on style and glory. The primacy of one-day cricket in the sub-continent can be traced to the hideous excesses of negativity in Test matches orchestrated by Sunil Gavaskar, the India captain from the late 1970s to the mid1980s.

Logically, we must always support every athlete's right to seek victory in whatever legal fashion he chooses. Logically, we must accept that sport is only incidentally entertaining; that the only duty of the athlete is to struggle for victory with perfect sincerity; that when an athlete seeks to be an entertainer, he loses the sport in himself.

But all the same . . . Sobers, Best, Campese, Warne, Pelé, Maradona, McEnroe, Jayasuriya . . . Pietersen, Muralitharan, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Robinson, Federer . . . yes, even Fàbregas, Henry, Denilson, at least to an extent. Style may not be a moral imperative in sport, but sport is more amusing for its presence. To say that style doesn't matter in sport does not mean that there is no style in sport. It only means that you lack this quality yourself.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on October 24, 2007, 05:48:30 PM
will be interesting to see how scousers play against us at the weekend, i have a funny feeling they'll play torres up front and pack into their own half, prague tried to play football against us and got completely tortured so i think liverpool will do the same. i'll happily take a draw but 3 points is much better :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 27, 2007, 07:32:35 PM
Big big game tomorrow. Manu sit atop the league, albeit we have two games in hand. Arsenal need to come away from anfield tomorrow with at least a point in the bag.
Wonder how it will shape up, mouthwatering tie to say the least. Ill be up early for this one!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2007, 09:13:42 AM
First time in a long time that I watced a game in the pub, gone are the days when a pub would be packed for a game like this....

Anyway from watching it on TV it was clear to see Arsenal dominated possession but were not creating the opportunites and once Liverpool got that early goal, Flamini wll have to take responsibility for that one, they were always going to sit back. But the goons were a pleasure to watch and if they had equalised earlier I have no doubt they could have gone on and won this maybe by two or three goals, that they didn't should be credited to Liverpool and the fact they played like an away team rather than a home team.

Happy with the performance and would take a draw this weekend but have a feeling the the goons will win it by the odd goal in three especially if Man Ure come and try and play, in saying that mid-day kick-offs tend to be flat games so a draw would be the better bet.

Eboue is an annoying player and I really do not like seeing him in an Arsenal shirt.....

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 30, 2007, 09:41:24 AM
Liverpool's players were very complimentary about Arsenal in the papers today. I didn't see the game, as I was at the American Football, but it sounds as if Arsenal were unreal, and Liverpool will look at it as a point gained. Of course the fact that Alonso and Torres got injured again is a bit of a sickener though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2007, 09:57:46 AM
Quotebut it sounds as if Arsenal were unreal, and Liverpool will look at it as a point gained

Wouldn't say unreal but they played very well, Torres however was a problem for Liverpool clearly unfit and he provided no outlet up front, Crouch made a big difference. I think Liverpool should have pushed on for a second goal before sitting back, their aggressive high-tempo was causing Arsenal problems but to sit back was just going to invite Arsenal to attack and Arsenal are very patient in that situation was wrong.

Liverpool had chances and think they might be unhappy not to hold on for all 3 points but Arseanal hit the woodwork twice, missed two open goals from the rebounds and also should have had a penalty but happy with a point and would take the same next Saturday....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 30, 2007, 12:06:58 PM
Jose Reina said that Arsenal are the 'best side I have ever played against'. I know soundbites are worthless, but that's some statement to make.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on October 30, 2007, 12:13:47 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 30, 2007, 12:06:58 PM
Jose Reina said that Arsenal are the 'best side I have ever played against'. I know soundbites are worthless, but that's some statement to make.

I was at the game in Anfield at the weekend and i have to say Arsenal are one of the best teams i have seen in a long time,Their movement off the ball and passing quality's is unreal and really Liverpool were very lucky to get a point in my opinion and i would see it as a point earned rather than two points dropped.Arsenal hit the post twice and missed two wide open goals.
Crouch did make a difference when he came on alright but really Arsenal deserved their point and will probably feel they should have taken all 3
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 30, 2007, 02:14:55 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2007, 09:13:42 AM

Eboue is an annoying player and I really do not like seeing him in an Arsenal shirt.....



me too. He lets himself and the side down. If he just played ball instead of that shit he would be better off. I remember he did the smae think last year in anfield in the cup. Wenger dropped him for a while after it and i thought he had grown up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2007, 03:56:34 PM
As wth Dinny I enjoyed the rarity of watching it in the pub. Maybe it was the stout but it was very enjoyable to watch even at 1-0 down. That match has convinced me more than ever that Arsenal can mount a serious challenge in 2008. Hleb was wonderful to watch.

I was slightly disappointed though that Wenger blinked and played Adebayor on his own for the first time. He stretched 5 across the middle and although it ultimately paid off, if he'd dropped Eboue for Bentner, Eduardo or Walcott Arsenal may have knocked 3-4 past them. Eboue is NOT an Arsenal player. AW will off-load him when he can afford to do so.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on October 30, 2007, 05:47:54 PM
eboue is a time bomb, always does something stupid every match, he has all the attributes wenger looks for in a player (athletic and technical ability and i think since sagna has come in hes been on the vrege of things, will be suprised if he is with us next season.

I must say my opinion of Alex Hleb has totally changed in the past few month, before i thought he was very negative and seemed to lack confidence at takin players on etc but watching him this season he along with cesc has been immense, great first touch and some wonderful pieces of skill and his work rate has risen too. can see why wenger let freddie go because hleb is almost the same style as him except doesnty dart into the box as well as the swede.

I know theres a long way to go and the weekend will have a big say on things but i feel we are the team to beat at the minute, lead by the fab-ulous cesc, we're gona take some stopping!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 31, 2007, 11:26:45 AM
does anyone know how i can watch the match on saturday on the pc. have to work and dont want to miss it. wreckin it is going to be a cracker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 31, 2007, 11:27:25 AM
myp2p.eu
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 31, 2007, 12:55:01 PM
thanks for that
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 31, 2007, 01:00:42 PM
Arsène Wenger has announced his 16-man squad for tonight's Carling Cup fourth-round tie with Sheffield United:

2. Abou DIABY (Age 21)                     
8. Lassana DIARRA (Age 22)                     
9. EDUARDO (Age 24)                     
15. DENILSON (Age 19)                     
17. Alex SONG (Age 20)                     
19. GILBERTO (Age 31)                     
21. Lukasz FABIANSKI (GK) (Age 22)                     
26. Nicklas BENDTNER (Age 19)                     
31. Justin HOYTE (Age 22)                     
32. Theo WALCOTT (Age 18)                     
34. Kieran GIBBS (Age 18)                     
39. Henri LANSBURY (Age 16)                     
40. Vito MANNONE (GK) (Age 19)                     
41. Gavin HOYTE (Age 17)                     
42. Fran MERIDA (Age 17)                     
43. Nacer BARAZITE (Age 17)

Average age of squad: 20.1 

take gilberto out and it brings it down to 19.4, i wonder what will the centre back partnership be tonight?
Song and hoyte or song and diarra? Dont think gilberto will be play there
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2007, 12:16:33 AM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2007, 12:17:31 AM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2007, 12:18:09 AM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2007, 12:18:59 AM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2007, 12:19:50 AM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 01, 2007, 02:12:20 AM
QuoteAverage age of squad: 20.1 

take gilberto out and it brings it down to 19.4, i wonder what will the centre back partnership be tonight?

I read somewhere, but it may need verified, that the average age of Arsenal's team v Liverpool on Sunday was 25. Chelsea's and Man United's at the weekend was 26. It sort of suggests that maybe all this fuss about young boys of Arsenal might be exagerated?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 01, 2007, 08:22:32 AM
The average age of the 13 players that played against Liverpool was 22. The starting XI was 24, it's the Arsenal squad that is pretty young, much younger than the Man U kids that would the title, the Sunday Times did a good comparison at the weekend.

It was a stroll in the park last night...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 01, 2007, 05:02:50 PM
i thought gilberto was very good. He was in the right place all the time and gave great cover to the centre halves. I hope he stays around in January but if he is not getting a game i doubt he will . I know wenger was making a point not making him captain last night but i felt sorry for him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on November 01, 2007, 05:11:18 PM
i hope gilberto stays too, hes been a great servant and is the type of player who has a great game but is overt shadowed by Cesc, RVP and the likes, he does the simple thing and breaks up opponents attacks and sets up ours. Wenger was harsh not giving him captaincy lastnight and not even giving the mad german a run out between the posts shows that he is no longer wanted!

More positive note lastnight the youngsters were great, the young lad at left back looked promising, in the same mould as clichy and cashley. Eduardo showed he has an eye for goal and hopefully wenger will give him a run in first team cos i think he will score goals if given game time! Should probably make cup final again as long as we stay clear of chelsea who will no doubt field a full strength side from now on in.
The future is most definately bright!

Up the gunners!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 01, 2007, 06:00:53 PM
Ah Jaysus O'Neill ya left out Giggs's goal in the 99 semi final! And the 6-1 scoreline at Highbury a few years back as well! ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on November 01, 2007, 06:06:04 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 01, 2007, 06:00:53 PM
Ah Jaysus O'Neill ya left out Giggs's goal in the 99 semi final! And the 6-1 scoreline at Highbury a few years back as well! ;)

The 6-1 was at Old Trafford.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 01, 2007, 06:10:07 PM
Whoops. :-[
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on November 01, 2007, 06:10:59 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 01, 2007, 06:10:07 PM
Whoops. :-[

It was still impressive though! :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2007, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 01, 2007, 06:00:53 PM
Ah Jaysus O'Neill ya left out Giggs's goal in the 99 semi final! And the 6-1 scoreline at Highbury a few years back as well! ;)

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2007, 07:25:43 PM
5th April 1912: Arsenal forwards give the Manchester United goalkeeper a hard time during their match at Plumstead. Arsenal won 2-1

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2007, 07:30:38 PM
Wenger has never had a problem off-loading players surplus to requirements, but I feel Gilberto is worth persevereing with until the end of the season. Arsenal will find it tough going during the African Nations Cup and with Gilberto still about he offers cover at the back. If Fabregas gets injured he'll also offer inspiration and know-how around the middle. As for Lehman....too dodgy now.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 02, 2007, 11:03:19 PM
http://www.redcafe.net/showthread.php?t=175269
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2007, 12:37:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnOjX_tVDOc
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2007, 12:39:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKj8msoEKEo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzEKOhBNlSM
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2007, 12:07:58 PM
Arsenal are unchanged from the 1-1 draw with Liverpool so Gilberto stays on the bench. For Manchester United, Patrice Evra replaces John O'Shea and Ryan Giggs comes in for Nani.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hoopsaaa on November 03, 2007, 12:24:04 PM
Anyone know where the game can be viewed on the net?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2007, 12:27:03 PM
http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=1286&part=sports
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 03, 2007, 12:39:40 PM
 any other link. that one wont open ??
can get tvu screen but nothing opens on it the right hand side

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 03, 2007, 12:43:29 PM
i do!! but i am at work
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 03, 2007, 12:49:35 PM
unfortunately no lunch break. will have to make do with today fm
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2007, 12:54:09 PM
sop://202.190.75.149:3912/1004

You need sopcast though
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2007, 03:39:37 PM
Arsenal v Manchester United: dangerous chance for ManU from Giggs
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1502232

Arsenal v Manchester United: nice shot by Giggs but goes wide
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1502244

Arsenal v Manchester United: dangerous chance for Arsenal by Gallas but Van Der Sar saves
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1502273

Arsenal v Manchester United: first goal for Manchester by Ronney
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1502292

Arsenal v Manchester United: 1st goal for Arsenal by Fabregas
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1502317

Arsenal v Manchester United: 2nd goal for Manchester by Ronaldo
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1502399

Arsenal v Manchester United: 2nd goal for Arsenal by Gallas
http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1502425

Although happy at the minute, this was a big chance to put a wee bit of daylight between the sides. Utd could see this as a valuable point in a few week's time.

I hope AW goes back to 4-4-2 next week. Although 2 points from Liverpool away and Utd home isn't bad, Arsenal are good enough to take all 6. The Adebayor sole-role doesn't maximise their game. Decent performances from most players although Rosicky looks off-form.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 05, 2007, 09:22:17 AM
Shock! Horror! Man Ure come and play their usually negaitive tactics at Arsenal. Again plenty of possession but playing Adebayor up front on his own means the Goons won't create that many clear cut chances. But as I said a couple of weeks ago I'll take two draws and I'll settle for that as the Goons had to come from beind in both games.

Agree with O'Neill about Rosicky, doesn't look fit and I think he's form is sufferiing because of it. A decent result tomorrow will mean Wenger can rest players for last 2 champions league group games, a lot of games coming up so fresh bodies will be needed..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 08, 2007, 04:38:39 PM
Don't think we can rest too many players now as if we dont get a draw in seville we wont top the group and will then have a harder draw in the next round. Thought we lacked creativity in midfield and i dont think bentner is all that he is making himself out to be- "i'm leaving if i dont get more games!!"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 12, 2007, 07:31:48 PM
Reading manager Steve Coppell:
"In my mind I have probably got about three different ways of playing against Arsenal - or trying to.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on November 12, 2007, 10:49:16 PM
Arsenal 3
Reading 1

Arsenal overcame Reading's resistance with a stylish win that sends them top of the table on goal difference.

Emmanuel Adebayor hit the post early on but the Gunners were frustrated until Alexander Hleb set up Mathieu Flamini to slot home just before half-time.

Adebayor's fine finish made it 2-0 with Arsenal's 1,000th Premier League goal and Hleb's solo strike added a third.

Nicky Shorey, who hit the woodwork with a late free-kick, managed a consolation for Reading with a close-range finish.

It was a thoroughly convincing win for Arsene Wenger's side, although Reading's approach was more than slightly perplexing.

The home side defended in numbers from the start and, with Kevin Doyle completely isolated up front, the early part of the game saw wave after wave of attacks by the Gunners.

If Adebayor's shot had rolled in, and not against the post, then the Royals would have been forced to come out and attack.

Instead, Steve Coppell's side dug in and set out to frustrate the visitors.

Their ultra-defensive approach meant Arsenal keeper Manuel Almunia had little to do, apart from push away Brynjar Gunnarsson's 30-yard shot.

But they kept the game goalless until the 44th minute when Flamini rounded off a neat move by guiding Hleb's low cross into the net despite the best efforts of Stephen Hunt on the line.

The Gunners carried on where they left off after the break and Adebayor got on the scoresheet himself when he fired past Hahnemann and into the bottom corner.

The Togo star thought he had made it 3-0 soon afterwards but his strike, following a slick passing move, was wrongly ruled out for offside.

There was no stopping Arsenal by now though and they did not have to wait long for a legitimate third goal, Hleb breaking into the area before rounding the keeper and firing cheekily home.

Reading's players were out on their feet and, with Arsenal still utterly dominant, a reply looked unlikely.

But Coppell's side did pull a goal back after finally producing a spell of pressure in the closing minutes.

The Royals had already gone close when Shorey's free-kick hit the bottom of Almunia's post and the England left-back was on hand to slot home when Stephen Hunt's header came back off the woodwork with three minutes left.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 23, 2007, 02:13:35 PM
from arsenal.com

Arsenal will be without six first-team players for their return to Premier League against Wigan on Saturday.

The leaders are likely to have five midfielders unavailable - Alex Hleb (hamstring), Mathieu Flamini (thigh), Cesc Fabregas (suspended), Abou Diaby (back) and Gilberto (fatigue). Philippe Senderos is back but Robin van Persie's long-standing knee problem has not healed sufficiently for him to return.

The Dutchman last played for Arsenal against Sunderland on October 7. He picked up his injury during the  international break that followed that game. It appears the most recent one has cost Arsenal a couple more players this time.

"Hleb came back with a hamstring injury," Wenger told Arsenal.com on Thursday afternoon. "So once again we lose someone during this [international] period. I think he'll be out for 21 days. Flamini came back with a little thigh problem too. That will be one week maximum.

"Senderos is available but Cesc is suspended. Diaby has a back problem from the Slavia Prague game and he'll be out for three weeks. Robin van Persie is not back and he will not be back for Sevilla either. Gilberto will return very, very late. In fact he only comes back on Friday. So, as for the rest of the squad, we'll see."

For the best build up to the Wigan game, please check Arsenal.com on Friday morning.

Team i would like to see this week, Almunia,
                                         Eboue,Toure, Gallas, Clichy,
                                     walcot, diarra, denilson, rosicky,
                                           Bentner  Adebayor
Bentner has to start getting goals though or i would sell him off. He got 2 international goals this week so confidence shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2007, 02:53:59 PM
Wenger seems to prefer Sagna in defence with Eboue on the right of midfield. I can see Walcott losing out again. I can also see Adebayor and Eduardo up front. The Croat showed enough v England that he can become a decent provider. Bentner and Adebayor too similar?

Will miss Hleb and Cesc greatly in terms of converting from late runs but hopefully there's enough there to dispose of Wigan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 23, 2007, 04:17:19 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 23, 2007, 02:53:59 PM
Wenger seems to prefer Sagna in defence with Eboue on the right of midfield. I can see Walcott losing out again. I can also see Adebayor and Eduardo up front. The Croat showed enough v England that he can become a decent provider. Bentner and Adebayor too similar?

Will miss Hleb and Cesc greatly in terms of converting from late runs but hopefully there's enough there to dispose of Wigan.

I prefer sagna too. But in a game like this i would let eboue play as he is our cover here. Similarly with the two "big" men up front, against a team like wigan i think decent balls into the box will yield goals and it would be a shame to drop bentner when his confidence is high
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 24, 2007, 09:44:26 PM
Well you were right about Bentner. His introduction changed the game. Involved in both goals, his intelligence on the ball was impressive and is pushing now for a start. With RVP on the mend though, I can see him moving on as it's RVP, Adebayor with him and Eduardo as impact subs. Good to see Rosicky finding some semblance of form. Walcott actually did ok and I'd probably prefer him to Eboue though Eboue has that defensive know-how that's useful with such an attacking midfield. Walcott's injury looked worrying though. Great win considering results elsewhere. I still feel Liverpool are going to be thereabouts. They're also unbeaten.

Now comes the real test. Four consecutive away games.

Sevilla v Arsenal - I think Arsenal will lose this one, their first defeat in yonks.
Aston Villa v Arsenal - Villa are flying. I'd take a draw.
Newcastle v Arsenal - Allardyce always poses a problem but 3 points hopefully
Middlesbrough v Arsenal - expecting 3 points.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 24, 2007, 09:55:47 PM
Can't say I agree with your prediction of the Seville game, O'Neill. Seville just lost today at home to Mallorca to follow up last week's defeat at Villarreal. Here's today's game babelfished:

Liga - the Majorca returns to win in the Pizjuán

The Majorca, as already it happened the last season, returns to win in the Pizjuán (1-2) before a stuck Seville without that remains offed-hook of the high zone of the table after suffering the third defeat like the premises in the present campaign. Ibagaza and the Varelas give the victory to vermilions. The Majorca has known to make profitable the 2-0 harvested in first half, in spite of being in numerical inferiority during the end of second half, with much suffering and holding the attacks of the nervión set. Seville left to the party with the intention to control the ball and to arrive at the rival frame with clarity, but they did not find its midfield players to the Mali Frederic Kanouté and the Brazilian Luis Fabiano, with few occasions of goal between both throughout everything in encounter. And under this Sevillista weather it arrived the first Majorcan goal, in the first approach that it had, exceeded the quarter of hour, when Jonás Gutiérrez went well by the left band of Hinkel, and made happens of the death within the area so that Ariel "sewer" Ibagaza beat by low and fit to a wood to Andrés Palop (0-1, min 16) The sevillista equipment could tie in two occasions with its goleador forward Luis Fabiano, but, or the ball went away outside nearly, or the doorman vermilion Germa'n Lux was for preventing it. Seville had "reflections" during the party of which fué the last season, but its thick and slow game during the mayora part of the encounter justifies its position in the classification. At the 38 minutes of the encounter the finishing nail arrived from the Majorca by means of spectacular zapatazo, from more than thirty meters, from Varela who strained themselves by the square of a Palop that could not make nothing to prevent it (0-2). Seville to the load Thanks to the heat of its liking, Seville left to the load in second half looking for the male. Luis Fabiano returned to suffer itself of his ankle, hurt after playing with his selection, and had to leave Chevantón in his place trasa the rest. Indeed Chevantón attended Kanouté in the goal of Seville after renewal (1-2 min. 50), and it made delude to the liking of overcome Pizjuán with one historical one after that tempranero goal. As of that moment Seville turns upside down completely to the attack and the ball does not leave the field vermilion desperately looking for the tie. There it is when German Lux, Majorcan arquero, are elevated in the outstanding man of the encounter after carrying out impressive sevillistas shutdowns to the man that did not guess right to beat to him. The Majorca as well began to sleep the encounter and to also cause the interruptions so that the party happened more quickly. Varela, Balearic midfield player author of the second goal, was expelled for want of quarter from hour for the end. This caused that the Majorca was still closed more back and controlled the rest of the encounter before a Seville without stuck arrival nor.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 24, 2007, 10:02:48 PM
I think Essien will miss the game v Arsenal now. A big loss, as he usually plays well and scores v The Goons.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 26, 2007, 11:37:32 PM
Poor Spud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhTDSSiMio0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdWTg7WqfL0&feature=related
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 27, 2007, 01:56:10 PM
think we might get a result tonight. I have a sneaky feeling eduardo will get a goal (8-1 on pp to score first). Cesc is back and that will give us the creativity we lacked in prague in midfield.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 27, 2007, 03:20:40 PM
O'Neill, did you just contradict yourself here on this thread within minutes of each other? Did you mean to use an alter ego? :D (Or are you schizo?)

Quote from: ONeill on November 24, 2007, 09:44:26 PM
Well you were right about Bentner. His introduction changed the game. Involved in both goals, his intelligence on the ball was impressive and is pushing now for a start. With RVP on the mend though, I can see him moving on as it's RVP, Adebayor with him and Eduardo as impact subs. Good to see Rosicky finding some semblance of form. Walcott actually did ok and I'd probably prefer him to Eboue though Eboue has that defensive know-how that's useful with such an attacking midfield. Walcott's injury looked worrying though. Great win considering results elsewhere. I still feel Liverpool are going to be thereabouts. They're also unbeaten.

Now comes the real test. Four consecutive away games.

Sevilla v Arsenal - I think Arsenal will lose this one, their first defeat in yonks.
Aston Villa v Arsenal - Villa are flying. I'd take a draw.
Newcastle v Arsenal - Allardyce always poses a problem but 3 points hopefully
Middlesbrough v Arsenal - expecting 3 points.


Followed by:

Quote from: ONeill on November 24, 2007, 09:55:47 PM
Can't say I agree with your prediction of the Seville game, O'Neill. Seville just lost today at home to Mallorca to follow up last week's defeat at Villarreal. Here's today's game babelfished:

Liga - the Majorca returns to win in the Pizjuán

The Majorca, as already it happened the last season, returns to win in the Pizjuán (1-2) before a stuck Seville without that remains offed-hook of the high zone of the table after suffering the third defeat like the premises in the present campaign. Ibagaza and the Varelas give the victory to vermilions. The Majorca has known to make profitable the 2-0 harvested in first half, in spite of being in numerical inferiority during the end of second half, with much suffering and holding the attacks of the nervión set. Seville left to the party with the intention to control the ball and to arrive at the rival frame with clarity, but they did not find its midfield players to the Mali Frederic Kanouté and the Brazilian Luis Fabiano, with few occasions of goal between both throughout everything in encounter. And under this Sevillista weather it arrived the first Majorcan goal, in the first approach that it had, exceeded the quarter of hour, when Jonás Gutiérrez went well by the left band of Hinkel, and made happens of the death within the area so that Ariel "sewer" Ibagaza beat by low and fit to a wood to Andrés Palop (0-1, min 16) The sevillista equipment could tie in two occasions with its goleador forward Luis Fabiano, but, or the ball went away outside nearly, or the doorman vermilion Germa'n Lux was for preventing it. Seville had "reflections" during the party of which fué the last season, but its thick and slow game during the mayora part of the encounter justifies its position in the classification. At the 38 minutes of the encounter the finishing nail arrived from the Majorca by means of spectacular zapatazo, from more than thirty meters, from Varela who strained themselves by the square of a Palop that could not make nothing to prevent it (0-2). Seville to the load Thanks to the heat of its liking, Seville left to the load in second half looking for the male. Luis Fabiano returned to suffer itself of his ankle, hurt after playing with his selection, and had to leave Chevantón in his place trasa the rest. Indeed Chevantón attended Kanouté in the goal of Seville after renewal (1-2 min. 50), and it made delude to the liking of overcome Pizjuán with one historical one after that tempranero goal. As of that moment Seville turns upside down completely to the attack and the ball does not leave the field vermilion desperately looking for the tie. There it is when German Lux, Majorcan arquero, are elevated in the outstanding man of the encounter after carrying out impressive sevillistas shutdowns to the man that did not guess right to beat to him. The Majorca as well began to sleep the encounter and to also cause the interruptions so that the party happened more quickly. Varela, Balearic midfield player author of the second goal, was expelled for want of quarter from hour for the end. This caused that the Majorca was still closed more back and controlled the rest of the encounter before a Seville without stuck arrival nor.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on November 27, 2007, 03:25:12 PM
Well spotted AZ, so who is his other account?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 27, 2007, 03:26:28 PM
Ah ONeill has many, many faces. We have 1820 members, and I'd say O'Neill is about 30 of them :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 27, 2007, 03:39:05 PM
QuoteWell spotted AZ, so who is his other account?

As one of the few people who read this thread I spotted that over the weekend but didn't want to offend O'Neill as he keeps this thread going  :-[
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 27, 2007, 03:39:41 PM
Sorry lads, it wasn't my place.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on November 27, 2007, 03:40:46 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 27, 2007, 03:26:28 PM
Ah ONeill has many, many faces. We have 1820 members, and I'd say O'Neill is about 30 of them :D
Ur fairly on the ball there AZ !  Should send your CV on to Horatio Caine to enhance career prospects  :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2007, 06:47:56 PM
Anyway, Wenger just text me. It's:
Almunia,
Hoyte, Traore, Senderos, Toure,
Eboue, Fibreglass, Denilson, Gilberto,
Eduardo and Bentner

A worrying defence.

Seville 2 Arsenal 0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2007, 09:51:41 PM
Well 3-1 it ended, not surprisingly so. This last game at home to Steaua is almost crucial. They need to win and hope Seville don't win in Prague. Finishing second will invite a 2nd round game against Barca, Milan, Madrid etc.

Senderos (Cygan in disguise) should never share a pitch with Gilberto again. He makes everyone nervous but for some reason Silva's game is destroyed when he plays. Cesc was very quiet. Away to Villa on Saturday. A tough one.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 27, 2007, 10:24:37 PM
Never seen it but I hear....

Fibreglass injured....
Hoyte to be hawled in front of UEFA or a stamp...
Wenger firing his toys out of the pram....
Arsenal (The saviours of football with their beautiful football) surrounding the ref and pressurising him to overturn decisions....



As I say....that's what I heard..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2007, 10:27:37 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 27, 2007, 10:24:37 PM
Never seen it but I hear....

Fibreglass injured....
Hoyte to be hawled in front of UEFA or a stamp...
Wenger firing his toys out of the pram....
Arsenal (The saviours of football with their beautiful football) surrounding the ref and pressurising him to overturn decisions....



As I say....that's what I heard..

1. Looks like it
2. Nope
3. Probably as does Fergie, Mourinho...all winners seem to.
4. Nope.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on November 27, 2007, 10:39:50 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 27, 2007, 10:24:37 PM
Never seen it but I hear....

Fibreglass injured....
Hoyte to be hawled in front of UEFA or a stamp...
Wenger firing his toys out of the pram....
Arsenal (The saviours of football with their beautiful football) surrounding the ref and pressurising him to overturn decisions....


As I say....that's what I heard..

A subject close to any Chelsea fans heart, Captain Courageous Terry (or is that turncoat Terry?) throwing the ball at the ref against Derby........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 27, 2007, 10:43:12 PM
QuoteA subject close to any Chelsea fans heart, Captain Courageous Terry (or is that turncoat Terry?) throwing the ball at the ref against Derby........


No denying that Chelsea were out of order on Saturday. However the medja tend to demonsie Chelsea, and glamorise Arsenal, even though the pretty boys of North London are fond of throwing their toys out of the pram too! And it's hard to beat a wee bit of exagerating....he threw it at the ground...not the ref!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2007, 10:43:56 PM
You have to understand this, SS. Arsenal haven't lost since April 7th. That's a lot of frustration for oppostion fans. Even in a meaningless game, an Arsenal defeat is orgasmic for them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 27, 2007, 10:50:39 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 27, 2007, 09:51:41 PM
Well 3-1 it ended, not surprisingly so. This last game at home to Steaua is almost crucial. They need to win and hope Seville don't win in Prague. Finishing second will invite a 2nd round game against Barca, Milan, Madrid etc.

Senderos (Cygan in disguise) should never share a pitch with Gilberto again. He makes everyone nervous but for some reason Silva's game is destroyed when he plays. Cesc was very quiet. Away to Villa on Saturday. A tough one.

QuoteEven in a meaningless game

So the last game is crucial, but the 2nd last is meaningless? I am nearly as confused as you were when replying to yourself!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2007, 10:53:09 PM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44265000/jpg/_44265905_senderos6666getty.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2007, 10:56:02 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 27, 2007, 10:50:39 PM
I am nearly as confused as you were when replying to yourself!!

Unfortunately even the simplest attempts at subtle humour is unappreciated on the board in 2007.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 27, 2007, 10:57:17 PM
Now the Andorra thing was funny....

....but I think in this wan you fecked up  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2007, 11:01:41 PM
Ach Jaysus, I'm now stooping to the level of explaining these things. Why do I bother...

Immediately after posting the initial post about the Seville game, I checked their recent results only to find they were in a spot a bother. I posted again in order to say my initial post was shite and ill-informed, and I attempted to do so in a, over-the-head it appears, self-depreciating way.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 28, 2007, 09:34:47 AM
I actually thought of that O'Neill. Is he doing this in an 'Alan Shearer third person' type of way. Then I said, 'It's O'Neill. Nah!!!!!!!!!!'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 28, 2007, 10:12:27 AM
QuoteArsenal (The saviours of football with their beautiful football)

Jesus, Norf Tyrone actually writes something that I can agree with.

It's great to see people whinge about Arsenal, must mean they see Arsenal as realistic title challengers... ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on November 28, 2007, 12:48:22 PM
"Fredi from the penalty spot" will now enter the White Hart Lane hymnbook, alongside "Nayim from the halfway line" ;D

On another note, Jose Ramos' team fcuked you Goons last night... a taste of things to come closer to home ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 28, 2007, 02:38:57 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on November 28, 2007, 12:48:22 PM
"Fredi from the penalty spot" will now enter the White Hart Lane hymnbook, alongside "Nayim from the halfway line" ;D

On another note, Jose Ramos' team fcuked you Goons last night... a taste of things to come closer to home ;)

.....though I would think that the Arsenal First Team demolition of Ramos' Seville, when he was actually in charge, 3-0 is a better indicator.

Pretty pathetic that Spurs can only sing about the achievement of other clubs!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 28, 2007, 03:05:08 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on November 28, 2007, 12:48:22 PM
"Fredi from the penalty spot" will now enter the White Hart Lane hymnbook, alongside "Nayim from the halfway line" ;D

its a pity none of the £40 million plus of striking talent on show at spuds can manage to do it. Maybe ye should try and buy him back? Although kanoute will hardly leave the champions league to play for a mid table team whose hilight this week is playing the likes of aalborg in the uefa cup! 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 28, 2007, 03:13:59 PM
....on Channel 5 if lucky....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 30, 2007, 05:13:18 PM
from arsenal
Gael Clichy and Alex Hleb face late fitness tests ahead of the game at Aston Villa on Saturday but Cesc Fabregas is now definitely out.

The Spaniard injured his hamstring at Sevilla on Tuesday and was rated as highly doubtful by Arsène Wenger at his press conference on Thursday. He failed a fitness test on Friday morning.

Clichy (thigh) and Hleb (hamstring) have travelled to Birmingham ahead of the game but the manager will make a late call on both.

Meanwhile Robin van Persie (knee) and Abou Diaby (back) are injured. Mathieu Flamini returns after being kept out of the midweek defeat in Spain with a thigh injury. Emmanuel Adebayor and William Gallas are back after being rested against Sevilla.

Tough task this weekend. I would be happy with a draw.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2007, 06:45:19 PM
No team would like to be playing Villa right now.

Blackburn 0-4 Aston Villa
Middlesbrough 0-3 Aston Villa
Birmingham  1-2 Aston Villa
Aston Villa  2-0 Derby
Bolton  1-1 Aston Villa
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 03, 2007, 12:07:47 AM
That was a massive win yesterday. The football played in the first half was the best I've ever witnessed from Arsenal and that includes the 2002 and 2004 seasons. As the BBC site said it mirrored the 70s Dutch football (hope not the same end results!). All 11 players played the ball on the ground, 1-2 touch football. Wonderful.

However, when Villa upped the work-rate in the second as O'Neill's teams tend to do, Arsenal struggled massively. I've never seen Wenger's men put under so much pressure right until the death and that includes the Utd or Liverpool games. Normally teams eventually tire against Arsenal after 70 mins. Villa were mightily impressive in this regard and I hope that defeat doesn't harm their confidence.

Good games from Sagna, Diarra, Hleb and Adebayor.

Newcastle on Wed night. I see Barton has upped the stakes with the crowd for this game. It'll be a cauldron though an early goal will quell that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 03, 2007, 01:12:52 AM
QuoteThat was a massive win yesterday. The football played in the first half was the best I've ever witnessed from Arsenal and that includes the 2002 and 2004 seasons.


Was a key game for the goons yesterday. I was hoping that Villa would highlight a brittle interior for Wenger's men but this doesn't appear to be the case. I didn't see the game, but on the radio, and in every forum/media outlet since they were drooling about the Arsenal performance.

Its difficult to know what will happen in the Spring during 'squeky bum' time but a tricky away victory ground out is one hurdle cleared IMHO.


C'mon the Geordies!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 03, 2007, 01:17:47 AM
Superb result from arsenes boys yesterday. The ability to grind out results is what is setting them apart from the previous few years. The football in the first half was sublime, Ive never witnessed anything like it. Was a crunch fixture, and after O'Neills prediction of the seville result, it was imperative to bounce back yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on December 04, 2007, 04:20:25 PM
From arsenal.com

Alex Hleb and Mathieu Flamini have been ruled out of the trip to Newcastle on Wednesday.

The Arsenal squad left for Tyneside on Tuesday without FOUR international midfielders. Cesc Fabregas and Abou Diaby missed the 2-1 win at Aston Villa on Saturday with hamstring and back injuries respectively. They will not be returning at St James' Park.

And during that morale-boosting victory in Birmingham, Hleb collected an Achilles/hamstring problem while Flamini fell victim to a recurrence of his thigh injury. Arsène Wenger will bolster his midfield by adding Denilson to his squad. He also has options in Lassana Diarra and Gilberto. However striker Robin Van Persie (knee) is still a couple of weeks away from a return.

"We have lost Alex Hleb and Mathieu Flamini from Saturday at Villa," Wenger told Arsenal TV Online on Tuesday afternoon. "We have no-one back so that's Diaby, Van Persie, Hleb, Flamini and Fabregas out for this game.

"At one stage we thought it was congested in midfield but now it looks bare," he joked. "But we still have quality players coming in there. We have Gilberto while Denilson is back after an injury. He is travelling with us. So we are very confident that we are still strong in the midfield."

Hleb and Fabregas are unlikely to be back for Arsenal's return to the North-East on Sunday at Middlesbrough however there is more optimism over the chances of Flamini playing at the Riverside Stadium.

i would go with  a 4 4 2, with sagna,kolo,gallas,clichy,walcott,diara,gilberto,rosiky,eduardo,adebayor.

newcastle are in a bad way at the back at the minute.Whoever i am always worried about a team who have agot a couple of bad beatings as the eventually have a lock out. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 05, 2007, 04:45:10 PM
Hoping for:

Almunia
Sagna-Toure-Gallas-Clichy
Gilberto
Walcott Diarra Denilson Rosicky
Adebayo
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on December 05, 2007, 07:58:43 PM
1-0 to the Arsenal after only 3 minutes.  Newcastle have it all to do.  I'd say Man Utd are worrying about Arsenal this year, bet they wish they could play as good as football as Arsenal... ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on December 05, 2007, 08:16:34 PM
Yes because we play such shit football ::) ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 05, 2007, 08:44:04 PM
As a Liverpool fan - I love watching them play - they are a far better team without Henry
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on December 05, 2007, 09:15:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 05, 2007, 09:06:15 PM
Wan - Wan.

another non english signing by wenger?? what age is this one?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: redcard on December 05, 2007, 09:44:40 PM
Quote from: An Fear Rua on December 05, 2007, 09:15:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 05, 2007, 09:06:15 PM
Wan - Wan.

another non english signing by wenger?? what age is this one?

Looks like he's ready to play himself  :D

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44282000/jpg/_44282818_wenger200.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 05, 2007, 11:06:39 PM
Worryingly, Arsenal forte of exhausting the opposition to submission in the second half has been missing v Seville, v Villa and now v Newcastle.

Happy with the point though. Breathing space. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on December 05, 2007, 11:41:14 PM
Quote from: new devil on December 05, 2007, 08:16:34 PM
Yes because we play such shit football ::) ::)

I never said they did.  Compleatly overated, I wouldnt say ronaldo, Rooney or Rio and a few others are hardly worth £15m.  They will do lucky to get forth this season. ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on December 06, 2007, 12:12:35 AM
QuoteThey will do lucky to get forth this season.

But they play in the Scottish 3rd Division?

Stop adding to the Galway drugs epidemic ye bone idle westerner!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on December 06, 2007, 09:15:27 AM
Thought the gooners started brightly but faded badly in the 2nd half & indeed Newcastle looked the more likely to get a winner. Arsenal miss Fabregas in the middle as when they were getting it tight there was no-one to put their foot on the ball & take control.
Good result overall :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 09, 2007, 02:56:07 PM
These are the points we cannot afford to lose, hopefully walcott can make a difference.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on December 09, 2007, 02:58:00 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on December 09, 2007, 02:56:07 PM
These are the points we cannot afford to lose, hopefully walcott can make a difference.

you are confusing me at the minute with posting at different times of the day and night, what time is it there?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 09, 2007, 03:01:07 PM
7am, coffe is brewing. :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Lecale2 on December 09, 2007, 03:07:11 PM
2-0 Boro just scored again
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 09, 2007, 03:08:19 PM
FFFFFFFS >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on December 09, 2007, 03:56:06 PM
After losing to little Middlesbrough have you changed your tune yet Galwaybhoy? ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: redcard on December 09, 2007, 05:04:20 PM
Well done Boro. Makes the league interesting

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44289000/jpg/_44289624_penalty416.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 09, 2007, 05:08:48 PM
This is getting interesting. What I seen of it today, Boro murdered the Goons, and should've won by more!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 09, 2007, 05:28:07 PM
3-0 wouldnt have been too far a stretch of the truth of the game. Shocking performance from arsenal - hopefully one that will not be repeated.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on December 09, 2007, 06:33:16 PM
QuoteThis is getting interesting. What I seen of it today, Boro murdered the Goons, and should've won by more!!

Just like when united ended their last unbeaten run, Arsenal could go into free fall now, and without Thierry merce-Henry to steady the ship, could well slip out of sight.   I have looked into the future and foresee a thrashing at the Emirates on the hoizon.  Behold.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 09, 2007, 06:36:36 PM
The team is definitely suffering without the nucleus of Fabregas/Hleb/Flamini/Diaby/Van Persie.

Arsenal really need good news this week on the injury front or it'll be a very bleak Christmas.

Chelsea must be licking their lips at the prospect of meeting that team today next Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 09, 2007, 06:42:46 PM
QuoteChelsea must be licking their lips at the prospect of meeting that team today next Sunday.


Ah C'mon the mind games start! Chelsea have no Carvalho, Essien, Drogba, Ballack, nor possibly Cech! I'll take a point if it was offered.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 11, 2007, 11:24:13 PM
Mad Jens is back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on December 12, 2007, 12:34:00 PM
so is van persie. I also see that hleb or cesc may be be back for chelski but not both. >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 14, 2007, 04:52:10 PM
What a shock!
Arsenal now hot favourites for Sunday, with all the big guns back.


Arsenal got a major boost today ahead of their Chelsea clash Sunday, with Cesc Fabregas, Mathieu Flamini and Aleksandr Hleb all resuming training.

The midfield trio - each an important part of Arsenal's success this term - have been sorely missed as Arsenal embarked on their toughest fixture run to date this season.

All three players took part in the session at Arsenal's training ground Friday and could make a timely return in Sunday's Premier League game. Chelsea are third in the table, three points behind leaders Arsenal.

Wenger is keen to see his side return to winning ways after their first league defeat against Middlesbrough last Sunday and knows the importance of having his key players back. "Fabregas, Flamini and Hleb were back in training and I will make a decision on their fitness on Sunday morning," said Wenger.

"I want to leave it as late as possible before making a decision on if they will play but the signs have looked very positive in training. If Fabregas is fit, he will play."

Wenger is cautious, however, about rushing players back from injury for short-term gain. "It is always a kind of gamble when you bring players back because they could suffer a recurrence of the injury," he added. "That is why we have to sit down and make a decision.

"We know the importance of this game and playing against direct opposition is very big. But we have shown since the start of the season that we can compete with the top teams."

After playing in the 2-1 win against Steaua Bucharest in the Champions League Wednesday, striker Robin Van Persie could be in line to start and Abou Diaby is also fit again having featured in that match. Theo Walcott, however, has been ruled out with a knee injury.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Broken_Cross on December 16, 2007, 04:55:38 PM
Gallas on target again   ;D

Sol who!?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2007, 08:18:26 PM
Big, big win. Hairy enough at the end though could've ended up 4-3. Fabregas looked ring-rusty whereas Ashley Cole just has a rusty ring. Amazing how Flamini has gone from a bit-part to almost essential in 12 months - his energy and workrate is a necessity for Hleb and Cesc to strut their stuff. Very uncharacteristic of Cech.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 16, 2007, 09:58:59 PM
Big win is right, Gael Clichy fantastic stuff, RVP looks hungry......the referee was terrible, absolutely no control and Jamie Redknapp is a knob of the highest order. 2 horse race now....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: redcard on December 16, 2007, 10:06:25 PM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44304000/jpg/_44304417_gallas_getty416.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 17, 2007, 12:08:25 AM

Strange sort of a game. Observations, and mind that I've been on the tear today, and my blue tinteds are on;

* Goal was a totally out of character error by Cech. However the Goons were aided by a push by Gallas on Ben Haim.
* Flamini, as O'Neill points out, is now a key player for Arsenal, and was excellent today.
* Eboue...the same Eboue who should've been suspended for this game...should've seen red for that tackle on JT. You can imagine the outrage if Obi one, or Essien had've done that.
* Chelsea were slightly toothless, and despite buckets of posession never convinced that a goal was coming. However I thought we played pretty well considering we were minus Drogba, Ballack, Carvalho, Essien and then JT. Essentially the spine of the team was wiped out.
* Fibreglass- Great player, but a wee p***k. Took a sneaky kick at Cole in the last minute, and then when Cole grabbed him went down holding his face.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 17, 2007, 09:28:52 AM
QuoteEboue...the same Eboue who should've been suspended for this game...should've seen red for that tackle on JT. You can imagine the outrage if Obi one, or Essien had've done that.

Rubbish, I'm no fan of Eboue but he simply tried to block the ball and his foot was not raised particularly high you see that every week. As for JT is that the same John Terry that should seen red for his over the top tackle on Fabregas  :o

Quote
Fibreglass- Great player, but a wee p***k. Took a sneaky kick at Cole in the last minute, and then when Cole grabbed him went down holding his face.

Poor tackle from Fabregas but Cashely reacted like the petulent fool that he is, lucky not to see red for rasing his hand and yes Fabregas's reaction was disappointing something that I certainly won't condone..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on December 17, 2007, 09:56:26 AM
QuotePoor tackle from Fabregas but Cashely reacted like the petulent fool that he is, lucky not to see red for rasing his hand and yes Fabregas's reaction was disappointing something that I certainly won't condone..

Poor tackle is a bit of an understatement, there has been hatred between those two for a while now, and it didn't help that Cashley blocked Fabregas' shot whenever he had practically an invite to score.  Fabregas is class, but I agree that he is one of the biggest pricks about.  Cashley, and I wouldn't be his biggest fan, barely touched him yet he rolled about for 5 minutes. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on December 17, 2007, 11:58:05 AM
great result could have been 3-1 or 1-1 hopefully we can kick on from here now spuds on saturday. Van Persie need a few more games to get back his sharpness.
I thought the referee let too many tackle go early on. This then had a knock effect with the antics in the game. He also took a lot of shit from Lampard and Terry.Eboues tackle looked bad on the tv but he was going for the ball. The tackle by j cole on him was bad too that is why Toure ran 60 yards to it. Terry went to follow through on cesc even Hansen said it on match of the day and he normally has his nose up terrys ass. Cesc in turn was oout of order with the tackle on cole at the end. But cole retalliated and so should have seen red.   
Chelsea will be still inthe shake up at the end of the season. If liverpool lose another to Arsenal, Man u or Chelsea they are out of the running.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 17, 2007, 12:21:06 PM
QuoteRubbish, I'm no fan of Eboue but he simply tried to block the ball and his foot was not raised particularly high you see that every week. As for JT is that the same John Terry that should seen red for his over the top tackle on Fabregas

Terry won the ball. It's not his fault that Fibreglass happened to be prone behind it. I think that was opportunism.

QuoteBut cole retalliated and so should have seen red.
He grabbed him by the neck as far as I could see, but it was a silly move.


The one positive after yesterday, is that Chelsea have been to the Emirates, OT and Anfield now, which makes things 'easier'.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on December 18, 2007, 02:44:12 PM
from arsenal.com
Arsène Wenger has announced his 16-man squad for tonight's Carling Cup Quarter-final tie with Blackburn Rovers.

The manager has rung the changes with the squad containing just two players involved in Sunday's win over Chelsea. Philippe Senderos was an unused substitute and Nicklas Bendtner was a 90th minute replacement for Emmanuel Adebayor.

Please note that Theo Walcott pulled out of tonight's squad after waking up this morning and feeling unwell.

2 Abou DIABY (Age 21)           
6 Philippe SENDEROS (Age 22)           
8 Lassana DIARRA (Age 22)           
9 EDUARDO (Age 24)           
15 DENILSON (Age 19)           
17 Alex SONG (Age 20)           
21 Lukasz FABIANSKI (GK) (Age 22)           
26 Nicklas BENDTNER (Age 19)           
30 Armand TRAORE (Age 18)           
31 Justin HOYTE (Age 22)           
34 Kieran GIBBS (Age 18)           
36 Mark RANDALL (Age 18)           
40 Vito MANNONE (GK) (Age 19)           
41 Gavin HOYTE (Age 17)           
42 Fran MERIDA (Age 17)           
43 Nacer BARAZITE (Age 17) 

This is a hugh test tonight against blackburn who will be fielding a strong team. A result is achieveable, although with senderos the most experience defender on display, i am worried!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on December 18, 2007, 08:41:31 PM
Quote from: ildanach on December 18, 2007, 02:44:12 PM
from arsenal.com
Arsène Wenger has announced his 16-man squad for tonight's Carling Cup Quarter-final tie with Blackburn Rovers.

The manager has rung the changes with the squad containing just two players involved in Sunday's win over Chelsea. Philippe Senderos was an unused substitute and Nicklas Bendtner was a 90th minute replacement for Emmanuel Adebayor.

Please note that Theo Walcott pulled out of tonight's squad after waking up this morning and feeling unwell.

2 Abou DIABY (Age 21)           
6 Philippe SENDEROS (Age 22)           
8 Lassana DIARRA (Age 22)           
9 EDUARDO (Age 24)           
15 DENILSON (Age 19)           
17 Alex SONG (Age 20)           
21 Lukasz FABIANSKI (GK) (Age 22)           
26 Nicklas BENDTNER (Age 19)           
30 Armand TRAORE (Age 18)           
31 Justin HOYTE (Age 22)           
34 Kieran GIBBS (Age 18)           
36 Mark RANDALL (Age 18)           
40 Vito MANNONE (GK) (Age 19)           
41 Gavin HOYTE (Age 17)           
42 Fran MERIDA (Age 17)           
43 Nacer BARAZITE (Age 17) 

This is a hugh test tonight against blackburn who will be fielding a strong team. A result is achieveable, although with senderos the most experience defender on display, i am worried!


Two up after 29 minues - great performance so far......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 18, 2007, 08:49:50 PM
You're an awful balax hardstation ....you're 3 mins ahead of my steam. Type slower please.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on December 18, 2007, 09:25:21 PM
You on the Sherry?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 18, 2007, 09:55:37 PM
Hope some one scrapes Savage with their nails.

ET.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: SeanSouth on December 18, 2007, 10:02:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 18, 2007, 09:55:37 PM
Hope some one scrapes Savage with their nails.

ET.

Did Savages mother have any children that lived? hateful hoor.......He is a prime example of a mediocre player that will retire a millionaire due to the amount of money sloshing about the Premiership.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on December 18, 2007, 10:13:09 PM
Oops
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 18, 2007, 10:15:23 PM
pelanties i'd say.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Broken_Cross on December 18, 2007, 10:37:10 PM
top result for the young guns  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 18, 2007, 10:49:07 PM
Some record Arsene's babies have in this competition over the last 5-6 years. Hope to draw Spurs again. Remember 'Are you watching....'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: dec on December 21, 2007, 02:28:56 PM
I don't know if any of you Gunners fans are on the western side of the Atlantic but if you are, FSC has 5 Arsenal cup finals on Christmas day.

http://www.soccertv.com/foxsoc.cfm

1971 English FA Cup Final
Arsenal vs Liverpool
1979 English FA Cup Final
Arsenal vs Manchester United
1993 English FA Cup Final
Arsenal vs Sheffield Wednesday
2001 English FA Cup Final
Arsenal vs Liverpool
2002 English FA Cup Final
Arsenal vs Chelsea
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on December 22, 2007, 03:38:58 PM
great result  today, although not a great performance. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on December 22, 2007, 03:42:33 PM
Quote from: ildanach on December 22, 2007, 03:38:58 PM
great result  today, although not a great performance. 

nothing to do with arsenal but that was some fetch by willie joe that you have as your avatar ildanach. 1985 gainst the dubs I presume? My 1st time in croker happy days
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 22, 2007, 05:01:09 PM
Poor performance today but a always a guaranteed 3 points against the Spuds,. I like the big Dane think he'll be something special but why did Wenger play only 1 up front at home doesn't suit the Gooners fluid style at all....happy days though  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 22, 2007, 05:07:58 PM
Very subdued Dinny. Any word on Van Persie? A great move for Adebayor's goal with Cesc always producing that wee bit of class in every game.

Wenger seems to favour the 1 up front tactic and to be fair to him it has come up trumps so often this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 22, 2007, 05:28:03 PM
Seemingly RVP has  a "little" injury and should be available for the Portsmouth game, Portsmouth were very poor today, I think their players have one eye on the ANC, think the goons will pick up all three..

This story along with the Tree House Charity gig last week restores some faith in premiership footballers, I like the comment about socialising with wives and partners wonder was that a dig at the roasters up north..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=504116&in_page_id=1779 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=504116&in_page_id=1779)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on December 23, 2007, 10:35:20 PM
[[/quote]

nothing to do with arsenal but that was some fetch by willie joe that you have as your avatar ildanach. 1985 gainst the dubs I presume? My 1st time in croker happy days
[/quote]

Ya spot on, he got up some height that day, that and brogans goal, 2 great things from 85
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2007, 02:05:48 PM
Very frustrating game. NO MORE 4-5-1 Arsene. Teams just park the bus in the middle and suffocate Fibreglass and Hleb. Wings haven't really been used since Pires left. Would love to see Adebayor given a rest - he's been playing that role non-stop recently. Away to Everton on Sat. Another 1-pointer.

Feel that this festive period is giving us a look at the final table. Utd won't slip up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 27, 2007, 05:26:19 PM
Bendter and Van persie up front could be very productive IMHO. The big Scandinavian looks a good player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on December 28, 2007, 09:46:31 AM
from arsenal.com

Robin van Persie will NOT be fit to return against Everton on Saturday - and William Gallas is a doubt for the weekend trip to Merseyside.

The Dutch striker made his first start for two months against Steaua Bucharest on December 12 after a long-term knee injury and came on as a substitute against Chelsea four days later.

He was sidelined for the north London derby with what was described by Arsene Wenger as a "little muscular problem, but a very minor one". Van Persie was expected to feature at Everton but that is no longer the case. To make matters worse, Gallas suffered an injury against Portsmouth on Boxing Day.

"Van Persie will not play on Saturday," confirmed Wenger after the 0-0 draw at Fratton Park. "We don't know about Gallas yet. He got a kick on his foot late in the first half."


I would like them to start with eduardo and bentner this weekend, i am worried though that we will have senderos playing. If he is we will be lucky to get a point!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 29, 2007, 09:32:08 PM
In conversation with Dinny on the Chelsea thread I thought this game was akin to Chelsea's visit to Blackburn in Feb 2005 where they got kicked around the placed but fought to earn a 1-0 win. The psyche of the players changed overnight, and the league was won that night in Ewood.

Tonight's game for Arsenal although not as pivotal, will give them a lot of self belief to press on from here.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2007, 09:36:24 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 29, 2007, 09:32:08 PM

Tonight's game for Arsenal although not as pivotal, will give them a lot of self belief to press on from here.

Definitely. Even when Utd lost earlier today, I was thinking that it was a stroke of luck as Arsenal'd only be 1 behind after a tough festive period. It was a freaky score. Arsenal were absolute shit in the first half. Even though I was hoping Adebayor'd be rested, Bentner showed nowt that he'd be a starter in the future. Again the midfield were lacklustre and blunt. Hleb and Fabregas have lost their pre-injury form.

West Ham at home next - the only away side to win a game of football at the Emirates.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on December 30, 2007, 02:17:01 AM
It looks like Lehman, Gilberto & Diarra could all be away in the January transfer window.

While losing Mad Jens & Gilberto to Germany & Italy probably wont hurt the gunners too much, Diarra going (possibly to Portsmouth) should be more of a concern.

Alliadiare at Middlesborough & Bentley at Blackburn have shown that there are better chances of first team football elsewhere in the premiership.

Wenger's policy of loaning players out to potential rivals may backfire on him if Djorou comes back from Birmingham to sit on the subs bench or play in the reserves for the rest of the season.

Loaning players out or playing them in the league cup, may give them more experience, but it is also the best shop window for your rivals.

Too many former young guns may come back to punish us unless we adopt a policy of only selling, or placing players on loan, to foreign leagues.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 30, 2007, 09:13:32 AM
Two ex-gunners scored yesterday - Upson v Utd and Larsson. v Fulham.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 31, 2007, 12:21:04 PM
QuoteTwo ex-gunners scored yesterday - Upson v Utd and Larsson. v Fulham.

There must be at least 20 players in the premiership that came through the Arsenal Academy, what other club produces so many players of premiership standard if not necessarily top 4 standard......


Watched the Everton game in small pokey pub down in Wexford surrounded by funny looking one eyed people who all seem to be related, for some reason they all seem Man U fans, must have been a coincidence....anyway Arsenal were poor but to come away with a 4 -1 win will as Norf Tyrone says give the young goons tremendous belief...

Funny no one has mentioned the Man U Xmas party as an excuse for their poor form, since that party and the publicity their form has been brutal, I had always thought Manure would win the title although I think the tide is changing.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on December 31, 2007, 09:44:54 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 31, 2007, 12:21:04 PM
QuoteTwo ex-gunners scored yesterday - Upson v Utd and Larsson. v Fulham.

There must be at least 20 players in the premiership that came through the Arsenal Academy, what other club produces so many players of premiership standard if not necessarily top 4 standard......


Watched the Everton game in small pokey pub down in Wexford surrounded by funny looking one eyed people who all seem to be related, for some reason they all seem Man U fans, must have been a coincidence....anyway Arsenal were poor but to come away with a 4 -1 win will as Norf Tyrone says give the young goons tremendous belief...

Funny no one has mentioned the Man U Xmas party as an excuse for their poor form, since that party and the publicity their form has been brutal, I had always thought Manure would win the title although I think the tide is changing.....


My Fantasy Football Team is called OUT-GUNNED - all ex Goons at some stage of their careers...

   
 

Hahnemann
Campbell   
Lauren
Upson
Ljungberg
Muamba
Larsson
Sidwell
Kanu
Aliadiere
Anelka (C)
   
Taylor
Pennant
Djourou
Cole 

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 31, 2007, 10:20:54 PM
Was Hahnamann a goon at one stage??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 01, 2008, 03:53:20 AM
QuoteWas Hahnamann a goon at one stage??

Subsitute Taylor for Hahnemann and you have your goalie.....


From the team below which is made up of ex Arsenal players not academy add in Bentlly  and Harper from the top of my head....more to follow when I sober up..

Just remembered Graham Stack, Reading goalie....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 01, 2008, 06:04:24 PM
http://www.videoplayer.hu/videos/play/120337
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on January 01, 2008, 09:27:20 PM
Another good wins with the two centre men showing up well - another assist for cesc!
Good start to the year, especially after the evening result.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 03, 2008, 12:41:04 AM
QPR have announced the signing of Arsenal defender Matthew Connolly - another one bites the dust.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 03, 2008, 05:35:30 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 01, 2008, 06:04:24 PM
http://www.videoplayer.hu/videos/play/120337


Some finish by the big man.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 04, 2008, 02:19:45 PM
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t309/lewisjyoung/04012008170.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 04, 2008, 02:21:32 PM
Wouldn't have minded him 2-3 years ago.

Big Jens to make his farewell on Sunday in the cup?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 04, 2008, 02:39:54 PM
more pics here

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=485997&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Exclusive+Pictures:+Beckham+trains+with+Club
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 04, 2008, 07:09:51 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 04, 2008, 02:21:32 PM
Wouldn't have minded him 2-3 years ago.

Big Jens to make his farewell on Sunday in the cup?

Just as long as he doesn't do anything stupid and were still in the cup on Monday....I hope he's professional enough not to "throw" anything...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 04, 2008, 07:20:33 PM
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/02012008/58/greatest.html

Don't know if all you gooners have seen this but....TH was one of the greatest Gooners ever and I think we should all vote for him and see if we can get him in......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 04, 2008, 10:23:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 04, 2008, 02:21:32 PM
Wouldn't have minded him 2-3 years ago.


Oh er missus.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on January 09, 2008, 09:10:37 AM
Anybody tuned into Arsenal TV on Setanta yet?
Seen a few re-runs of past years and even Highbury seems dated from 04-05 season compared to the Emirates.
Is this channel going to be ppv when it gets up and running like manure and chelski tv?
Still it is progress...
Any predictions for tonight? I have a fear we could be done in central defence with Kolo gone but we have enough attacking options available with rvp coming back and  Eduardo showing great quality, i am backing a 2.1 win....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 09, 2008, 04:35:37 PM
Arsène Wenger has announced his 16-man squad for tonight's Carling Cup Semi-Final first leg against Tottenham at Emirates Stadium.

As revealed by Arsenal.com yesterday, Robin van Persie returns to action after a muscle strain. Theo Walcott is also fit to play while Bacary Sagna and Gilberto have both been named in the squad.

Arsenal squad to face Tottenham:

2 Abou DIABY
3 Bacary SAGNA
6 Philippe SENDEROS
9 EDUARDO
11 Robin VAN PERSIE
15 DENILSON
19 GILBERTO
20 Johan DJOUROU
21 Lukasz FABIANSKI (GK)
26 Nicklas BENDTNER
30 Armand TRAORE
31 Justin HOYTE
32 Theo WALCOTT
36 Mark RANDALL
40 Vito MANNONE (GK)
41 Gavin HOYTE

Diarra must be on the way out when he didn't even make the squad. It is a pity, i thought he had the making of a great player and he was very versatile. but he just did not seem to have patience to wait. I can unerstand though as he is trying to hold a place down in the french team. i would have rated him above diaby, flamini and gilberto though.

prediction for tonight 2 v 1 ( they are bound to get 1 with that tool senderos playing!)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 09, 2008, 04:43:33 PM
Diarra is named in the squad on the BBC website  ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 09, 2008, 04:46:42 PM
 I took that from arsenal.com
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 10, 2008, 09:21:13 AM
Bloody BBC are useless....

That was a dire performance last night, Aresnal played well in patches with perhaps only Hoyte, Walcott, Traore and Bendtner coming out with any credit however Sagna must be the best right back in the Premiership and his attitude and committment is fantastic, definitely one of the signings of the season........

Sadly Senderos has to go, he is the new Gus Ceasar...........

Oh and I can't see Spurs ever beating Arsenal, that was there best chance in a long time and they just choked....

Anyway else notice Ray Wilkins drooling over Berbatov when he made a decent pass but staying strangely quiet when he gave away the ball which was pretty often, definitely a very over-rated player...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on January 10, 2008, 11:00:52 AM
Another annoying thing with Wilkins last night was he kept saying the average age of these boys was 22 ??? and the expereince they were getting, well if they are not playing by 22 they might as well forget it. Just wondering at what age does a boy become a man with ray wilkins
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 10, 2008, 12:35:58 PM
thought we were brutal, very lucky  to get the draw. Gilberto was shit with o hara totally out shinning him in midfield. Hopefully arsene will not sell diarra now as we are limited in this position. Diaby is very one footed and does not seem to use his left at all even when in trouble. I know he is a centre mid field but he is like tits on a bull out on the wing!! On the plus for someone who doesn't like playing in the centre hoyte was very composed in the second half. I fancy us to get through though in the second leg. 20 games with out a spurs win!! ;D,11 times to take the lead and not finish the job ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 10, 2008, 01:53:57 PM
Yer young lad O'Hara looks a great player.

All this talk of always beating Spurs...a few years back in 2001 or something, Chelsea had a similar record- if not better- against Spurs, and went in the league cup 2nd leg in a very similar state. Again the pysche was 'Chelsea always beat Spurs.'

Final score: Spurs 5 Chelsea 1!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 10, 2008, 02:00:58 PM
A very disappointing performance last night at home. Gilberto's gone/done/surplus to requirements. When once he was a useless CB cover, he's now a liability. Get £1m and farm him out. Senderos started badly but looked more composed second half. Again, though, he does not generate confidence for any period of the 90. Diaby is definitely no Vieira but I still feel he has shown enough to be a regular in the near future. He needs a Flamini or Fabregas beside him. Eduardo is starting to show what he's made of and his general play outside of the box is mightily impressive - even reminiscent of DB10, almost more a Bergkamp than Van Persie who was oddly subdued - almost as if he couldn't give a toss about the Carling.

I'm sure AW will stick with this squad for the second leg. Spurs should win it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 10, 2008, 02:20:45 PM
QuoteVan Persie who was oddly subdued

He was injured..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 10, 2008, 04:27:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 10, 2008, 02:20:45 PM
QuoteVan Persie who was oddly subdued

He was injured..

i see it is the flu he has, not a re occurance of the injury fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Broken_Cross on January 11, 2008, 01:49:31 PM
Quote from: spiritof91and94 on January 09, 2008, 09:10:37 AM
Anybody tuned into Arsenal TV on Setanta yet?
Seen a few re-runs of past years and even Highbury seems dated from 04-05 season compared to the Emirates.
Is this channel going to be ppv when it gets up and running like manure and chelski tv?
Still it is progress...
Any predictions for tonight? I have a fear we could be done in central defence with Kolo gone but we have enough attacking options available with rvp coming back and  Eduardo showing great quality, i am backing a 2.1 win....

Changed yesterday from Setanta on Freeview to Sky. I had got a free digibox and two months subscription as a TalkTalk customer but would not have paid £9.99 a month for 1 channel on Freeview. They changed me from Fv to Sky and I am paying £5 a month for the first 3 months (£9.99 thereafter) and I get all 12 Setanta channels including Arsenal TV, official launch tonight I think.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 17, 2008, 11:40:42 AM
See Lassana Diarra has signed for Pompey.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 17, 2008, 11:49:19 AM
QuoteSee Lassana Diarra has signed for Pompey.

Pity, he's a good prospect but he's obviously hungry to play. He could have stayed at either Chelsea or Arsenal and taking the easy life so you'd have to respect his desire...

Arsenal TV.....was that Lofty from Eastenders doing the punditry...it was surreal watching it....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 17, 2008, 12:00:56 PM
disappointed he is gone i think we are lacking in the centre of midfield and he is also a very versatile player who could have filled in in a few positions.
Big game thiis weekend we need a win. I have a feeling united will drop points this week against reading.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 21, 2008, 12:48:17 PM
from arsenal.com

Arsène Wenger could be forced to draft in a couple of first-team players for Tuesday's Carling Cup Semi-Final second leg at White Hart Lane.

The Arsenal manager has a policy of playing squad players in this competition. For example, in the first leg, Justin Hoyte was the only starter to retain his place from the previous Premiership game — and the former England Under-21 international has hardly been a regular in the top-flight this term.

Wenger is without five players at the moment — three of them centre back — and, as a result, he may employ some experience.

"The players who were on the bench at Fulham will play," he said. "But I will have to play one or two who played on Saturday because we are short in numbers."

One reporter asked if William Gallas would be one of that duo.

"I will see," replied the Arsenal manager. "Come to the game on Tuesday!"

Big game tomorrow i think we might just ge through by the a single goal 1-2.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 22, 2008, 01:50:38 PM
I think that after almost a whole decade of trying, the Spuds might finally manage to get one over the Arsenal (reserves) tonight. I think Wenger should resist playing anyone who'll run the risk of injury before the CL kicks into being again. Apparently Spurs are very much up for this (team and fans - God Help Them!) and perhaps Wenger should gift them this as thanks for allowing Jennings, Campbell, Stead, Walford, Groves, Neill and Young to move on to a bigger club.

Was reading this on Wiki:

As of January 9, 2008, there have been 158 competitive first-class meetings between the two teams since the first league meeting in 1909, of which Arsenal have won 66 and Tottenham 49. The most goals in one game were scored in the closely contested 5-4 Arsenal Premiership victory at White Hart Lane on November 13, 2004. The biggest winning margin was 6-0 to Arsenal on March 6, 1935. The last Tottenham victory over Arsenal was on November 7, 1999, when Spurs won 2-1 at White Hart Lane; the Gunners have remained unbeaten against their North London rivals in the 21 matches (seventeen Premiership, one FA Cup, three League Cup) since, as of January 9, 2008. In 2004, Arsenal won the title at their rivals' home ground, repeating their triumph of 1971

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 22, 2008, 02:20:32 PM
Arsène Wenger has announced his 16-man squad for tonight's Carling Cup Semi-Final second leg against Tottenham at White Hart Lane.

Arsenal squad to face Tottenham:

2 Abou DIABY
3 Bacary SAGNA
4 Cesc FABREGAS
9 EDUARDO
10 William GALLAS
13 Alexander HLEB
15 DENILSON
16 Mathieu FLAMINI
19 GILBERTO
21 Lukasz FABIANSKI (GK)
25 Emmanuel ADEBAYOR
26 Nicklas BENDTNER
30 Armand TRAORE
31 Justin HOYTE
32 Theo WALCOTT
40 Vito MANNONE (GK)

Stronger squad than usual. I would think that flamini,hleb, fabregas,  will be on the bench though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on January 22, 2008, 02:46:29 PM
IMO

- Fabianski
Sagna - Hoyte - Gallas - Traore
Diaby - Denilson - Gilberto - Hleb
- - - Walcott - Bendtner
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 22, 2008, 03:44:01 PM
Quote from: jaykay on January 22, 2008, 02:46:29 PM
IMO

- Fabianski
Sagna - Hoyte - Gallas - Traore
Diaby - Denilson - Gilberto - Hleb
- - - Walcott - Bendtner

a good team, but i would prefer eduardo up front. I think he will go with walcot on the wing but i would rather hleb and bring walcot on on the second half.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on January 22, 2008, 04:43:45 PM
have a good feeling about tonight, expect spurs to come out all guns blazing kicking all around them and hoping berbatov will do something, arsenal ride the storm then get into their rythmn hitting spurs on the break. dreams of 3-0 to the arsenal (reserves) but think  1-0 will do us!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 22, 2008, 06:44:02 PM
I'd be slightly concerned about starting Gallas. This match is way down in terms of what Arsenal want to achieve this year. For him to get injured, with Toure, Eboue and Djourou out, would be a disaster. Stick Gilberto back there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 22, 2008, 07:55:40 PM
Fabianksi---------------

Sagna---Hoyte-----Gallas---Traore

Hleb---Denilson---Gilberto---Diaby

---------Walcott----Bendtner--

Good call Jaykay.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on January 22, 2008, 08:04:04 PM
Quote from: jaykay on January 22, 2008, 02:46:29 PM
IMO

- Fabianski
Sagna - Hoyte - Gallas - Traore
Diaby - Denilson - Gilberto - Hleb
- - - Walcott - Bendtner

do you do lotto numbers?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 22, 2008, 09:07:42 PM
2 nil down half time ,could this be the end of the great 9 year run against spurs? if we get one early we could still do it(but thats a big if!!)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 22, 2008, 09:50:56 PM
Well done Spuds every dog has his day...

How long before Fearon exclaims Spurs greatest every victory........

Damn, Arsenal have just the Premiership, FA Cup and Champions League to worry about now.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 22, 2008, 09:52:06 PM
And to be fair, they beat (well) a decent Arsenal side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on January 22, 2008, 10:30:28 PM
no need for that fat w"£ker fearon to come on here and gloat he starts another pointless thread that gets a few replies then slips into oblivion after a few days, as dinny said plenty of bigger fish to fry, great experience for the young boys against spurs first team. hopefully bendtner and the likes come thru and do it for the first team...up the arse!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 22, 2008, 10:40:35 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 10, 2008, 01:53:57 PM
Yer young lad O'Hara looks a great player.

All this talk of always beating Spurs...a few years back in 2001 or something, Chelsea had a similar record- if not better- against Spurs, and went in the league cup 2nd leg in a very similar state. Again the pysche was 'Chelsea always beat Spurs.'

Final score: Spurs 5 Chelsea 1!!!!!!!


Now if only I'd money on that............
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on January 22, 2008, 11:52:07 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 22, 2008, 10:40:35 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 10, 2008, 01:53:57 PM
Yer young lad O'Hara looks a great player.

All this talk of always beating Spurs...a few years back in 2001 or something, Chelsea had a similar record- if not better- against Spurs, and went in the league cup 2nd leg in a very similar state. Again the pysche was 'Chelsea always beat Spurs.'

Final score: Spurs 5 Chelsea 1!!!!!!!


Now if only I'd money on that............
;D ;D ;D

About bloody time we won, and did it in style. Sure it might "only" be the League Cup, but a win's a win, especially after so long, and sure the non-"big 4 (soon to be 3)" teams get rare enough opportnities for success, so it's nice to get there.

Only thing is, I hope the final has a better ending this time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 23, 2008, 12:01:14 PM
very good win for for spurs, They deserved it. I thought the 3rd goal was the clincher. If we had got one back at that stage they may have imploded. But they were by far the hungerier sharper team -  Important to refocus now as newcastle in the cup at the weekend.
on a plus side that was a screamer adebayor got!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2008, 12:06:33 PM
Quote from: ildanach on January 23, 2008, 12:01:14 PM
very good win for for spurs, They deserved it. I thought the 3rd goal was the clincher. If we had got one back at that stage they may have imploded. But they were by far the hungerier sharper team -  Important to refocus now as newcastle in the cup at the weekend.
on a plus side that was a screamer adebayor got!

Aye it was some dig he hit Bendtner alright......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 23, 2008, 12:59:53 PM
How in Earth did Adebayor escape a red card, never mind a yellow for that slap at Lee?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 23, 2008, 01:14:54 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 23, 2008, 12:59:53 PM
How in Earth did Adebayor escape a red card, never mind a yellow for that slap at Lee?

Not to mention the head butt on Bentdner.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tintin25 on January 23, 2008, 01:19:28 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 23, 2008, 01:14:54 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 23, 2008, 12:59:53 PM
How in Earth did Adebayor escape a red card, never mind a yellow for that slap at Lee?

Not to mention the head butt on Bentdner.

As a neutral...have to say that Adebayor is a great player.

Adebayor > Berbatov
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 23, 2008, 02:14:03 PM
QuoteHow in Earth did Adebayor escape a red card, never mind a yellow for that slap at Lee?

Nice fishing, Lee went down like Elias in Platoon.....

(http://www.moviewallpapers.net/images/wallpapers/1986/platoon/platoon-1-1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 23, 2008, 02:24:14 PM
I thought that too Dinny. Another example of that sort of sh1te that is turning me more and more off soccer. Once, just once, I'd love to see the like of that lad at the bottom of a ruck on a wet Saturday out in Clifford Park or somewhere. They don't know they're born.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2008, 02:26:33 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 23, 2008, 02:24:14 PM
I thought that too Dinny. Another example of that sort of sh1te that is turning me more and more off soccer. Once, just once, I'd love to see the like of that lad at the bottom of a ruck on a wet Saturday out in Clifford Park or somewhere. They don't know they're born.

Have to agree AZ,it is becoming more and more difficult to identify with.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 23, 2008, 02:51:52 PM
What's this all about? I just got it in an RSS feed. I wasn't really looking at all the game, but I didn't notice it. What happened? Is there history here?

QuoteDuring the closing stages, with the tie already lost, Nicklas Bendtner - who had earlier scored an own goal - became involved in an altercation with team-mate Emmanuel Adebayor, and appeared to complain of being headbutted by the Togo international.

Arsenal captain William Gallas stepped in to try to calm matters down, before then himself being confronted by the angry young Danish striker. Eventually, referee Webb had to intervene to restore order.

As the Yorkshire official revealed he did not witness the events in their entirety, the FA have now asked broadcasters to provide any relevant television footage.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 23, 2008, 02:59:32 PM
What it says on the tin. He stuck the nut on him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 23, 2008, 03:01:14 PM
Is there a history there?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 23, 2008, 03:14:57 PM
from arsenal.com

Emmanuel Adebayor believes Arsenal's unity and focus will enable them to put last night's defeat at Tottenham behind them and achieve "a fantastic season".

The Togolese striker came off the bench to score the visitors' only goal in the 5-1 defeat at White Hart Lane in the Carling Cup Semi-Final second leg.

It was a disappointing night for Arsenal and passions were running high late on as they sought to find a way back into the tie. Afterwards, Adebayor remained optimistic about the team's chances in the remaining three competitions this season.

"We are a strong unit and what happened last night against Spurs will strengthen our desire and determination to compete for other targets," he said.

"Overall I think that we should have been more calm during the game and although I was pleased to get a goal back for the team when I came on, I am sorry for the disagreement with my team-mate Nicklas.

"We are both passionate about this Club and sometimes that can be projected in the wrong way. It was a mistake. We want to focus on the games ahead and rely on our squad's great togetherness to achieve a fantastic season."


This shows to me that neither liked getting stuffed by spurs.  It shows they care!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 23, 2008, 03:20:46 PM
Quote from: ildanach on January 23, 2008, 03:14:57 PM
from arsenal.com

Emmanuel Adebayor believes Arsenal's unity and focus will enable them to put last night's defeat at Tottenham behind them and achieve "a fantastic season".

The Togolese striker came off the bench to score the visitors' only goal in the 5-1 defeat at White Hart Lane in the Carling Cup Semi-Final second leg.

It was a disappointing night for Arsenal and passions were running high late on as they sought to find a way back into the tie. Afterwards, Adebayor remained optimistic about the team's chances in the remaining three competitions this season.

"We are a strong unit and what happened last night against Spurs will strengthen our desire and determination to compete for other targets," he said.

"Overall I think that we should have been more calm during the game and although I was pleased to get a goal back for the team when I came on, I am sorry for the disagreement with my team-mate Nicklas.

"We are both passionate about this Club and sometimes that can be projected in the wrong way. It was a mistake. We want to focus on the games ahead and rely on our squad's great togetherness to achieve a fantastic season."


This shows to me that neither liked getting stuffed by spurs.  It shows they care!!!!

Nutting your own teammate is a hell of a way to show you care.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 23, 2008, 03:25:10 PM
QuoteIs there a history there?

None that I am aware of, Bendtner though seemingly is very arrogant about his ability.....it wasn't a full on headbutt but disappointing and probably would have led to a red card if the referee saw it, Gallas handled it pretty well, nice to see passion about the humiliation as ildanach says....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on January 23, 2008, 03:26:17 PM
Off to London on Saturday and touched for 2 tickets for the Arsenal Newcastle game ... arm and a leg by the way..

1. Anyone suggest a good place for a pint b4hand..

2. Is it a silly idea to try and get a tube just after the game? or how should I try and get back to the centre of London...

Much obliged
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: Hurler on the Bitch on January 23, 2008, 03:26:17 PM
Off to London on Saturday and touched for 2 tickets for the Arsenal Newcastle game ... arm and a leg by the way..

1. Anyone suggest a good place for a pint b4hand..

2. Is it a silly idea to try and get a tube just after the game? or how should I try and get back to the centre of London...

Much obliged

There are a number of decent pubs around the area, The Tavern and The Gooner in order of preference. Just ask around, you'll be directed. Do not attempt to go into any of the Irish bars around Finsbury Park. The tube is worse on CL nights as no-one will be hanging around. You should be Ok for this game and during the match there'll be updates if any problems arise. It all depends on what time you need to be in the city for.

Disappointed to hear you paid over-the-odds for tickets. You should've PMed me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on January 23, 2008, 04:29:15 PM
Thanks for that .. will in future as I feel the crack on Saturday will be 90... ps - Irish pubs in Finsbury Park.... dodgy or too packed..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 06:25:14 PM
Dodgy. One was owned by a woman from Omagh. She told us not too stay too long as she'd had a few problems with stabbings and muggings. The good thing about it though is that she will start serving at 7am if you knock on the window. I always hit the Tavern though it's a wee walk from the Arsenal tube station. You have to pass Highbury though - a sad sight. Make sure you walk up Avenell Road to see the old entrance to Highbury - it's still maintained.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 07:17:03 PM
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/830/arsemaniata6.gif
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 23, 2008, 08:10:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 06:25:14 PM
Dodgy. One was owned by a woman from Omagh. She told us not too stay too long as she'd had a few problems with stabbings and muggings. The good thing about it though is that she will start serving at 7am if you knock on the window. I always hit the Tavern though it's a wee walk from the Arsenal tube station. You have to pass Highbury though - a sad sight. Make sure you walk up Avenell Road to see the old entrance to Highbury - it's still maintained.

Yeh i was in the gooner and the tavern the last time i was over...Prefered the Gooner's there was a lot of Irish in there....Tube was ok as well even tho there was a muslim rally in central London that day...We were going straight back to the airport.....I swear if that guy beside me has have went anywhere his backpack he was getting it.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on January 23, 2008, 08:16:18 PM
O'Neill - last time I was at Highbury was the day before the last ever game at Highbury.. I was in the area and took a wander down. Crikey! There were thousands around the place.. All were getting a special tee-shirt from backs of lorries .. it was like a military operation... Still, I have been a Gunner since 1977.. and cried with Chippy when Ipswich beat us etc ... but what joy - 12.05.79!  looking forward to the game ... with the Missus so the beer will be a couple of swift ones before the match... will the tubeline be okay - say at 1.00 from central London?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on January 23, 2008, 09:14:07 PM
heading on tuesday the the newcastle league game, first time at the emirates, miss highbury bigtime!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 09:22:02 PM
Leaving at one for the three kick-off will be no problem, provided Tube is running normally.

As for yesterday's game, disillusioned big time with Diaby and Walcott. Diaby seems to be chronically one-footed and wastes so much possession. Lacks any creativity and seems to be dining out on the odd long-range strike. Walcott simply doesn't have the footballing brain of the foreigners. I think AW will shortly lose patience with him.

For Newc (league game and rest of season) I'd like to see

Sagna - Senderos - Gallas - Clichy
Hleb - Fabregas - Flamini - Rosicky
Eduardo - Adebayor

When the Africans return, Toure in for Phillipe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 23, 2008, 09:32:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 09:22:02 PM
Leaving at one for the three kick-off will be no problem, provided Tube is running normally.

As for yesterday's game, disillusioned big time with Diaby and Walcott. Diaby seems to be chronically one-footed and wastes so much possession. Lacks any creativity and seems to be dining out on the odd long-range strike. Walcott simply doesn't have the footballing brain of the foreigners. I think AW will shortly lose patience with him.

For Newc (league game and rest of season) I'd like to see

Sagna - Senderos - Gallas - Clichy
Hleb - Fabregas - Flamini - Rosicky
Eduardo - Adebayor






When the Africans return, Toure in for Phillipe.

RVP will push hard for a place when he returns also....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 09:35:43 PM
Yes, forgot about him - he's been out so long. Some say Hleb is more effective in a central area but I cannot see AW moving Flamini onto the wing. He seems to be an Eboue fan though  - I just hope he doesn't resort back to a 4-5-1.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 23, 2008, 09:41:30 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 09:35:43 PM
Yes, forgot about him - he's been out so long. Some say Hleb is more effective in a central area but I cannot see AW moving Flamini onto the wing. He seems to be an Eboue fan though  - I just hope he doesn't resort back to a 4-5-1.

Yeh I hope he keep's Flamini where he is...You shouldn't mess with something that isn't wrong.. The guy has been a revelation this season.I love his attitude, he always gets stuck it where it hurts...Eboue plays well with Sagna as he can drop back too and let Sagna attack but hes not in the same class as Hleb or Rosicky...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Pietas on January 23, 2008, 09:55:39 PM
I wouldn't normally comment on an arsenal thread, but I have to say the attitude of the team, manager and supporters (the ones I have listened to today, anyway) is a complete and utter disgrace.

Arsenal finished with about nine 1st choice players on the pitch, but all we've heard about is their 'youth team' or their 'under-16s.'

Arsenal were well beaten and took to fighting amongst themselves.

The Arsenal end of the ground was empty long before the end of the match and the manager's post match comments reflected very poorly on him. Ferguson, bad and all as he is, would not have done it.

Shame on arsenal. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Pietas on January 23, 2008, 09:59:33 PM
Quote from: Hurler on the Bitch on January 23, 2008, 03:26:17 PM
Off to London on Saturday and touched for 2 tickets for the Arsenal Newcastle game ... arm and a leg by the way..

1. Anyone suggest a good place for a pint b4hand..

2. Is it a silly idea to try and get a tube just after the game? or how should I try and get back to the centre of London...

Much obliged

last time i was theryre was at highbury.

the woodbine is a nice pub and a tube back into town shouldnt be too much bother
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 10:00:44 PM
Yes, the Eboue-Sagna partnership seems to reap dividends mostly and Eboue isn't afraid to whack in a cross for Adebayor. It's a tough call for the run-in.

Rosicky/Fabregas/Hleb are attack minded whereas Eboue/Flamini are defence first. If he gives Adebayor and Eduardo a run together I can see Rosicky losing out.

Although, when Arsenal were flying earlier in the season he was going with

Sagna, Toure, Gallas, Clichy
Eboue  Fabregas, Flamini, Hleb,
Rosicky 
Adebayor
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2008, 10:01:12 PM
Nothing happening here, everyone move along now please.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 10:06:09 PM
Quote from: Pietas on January 23, 2008, 09:55:39 PM
Ferguson, bad and all as he is, would not have done it.


Shreeves had questioned winger Cristiano Ronaldo over a controversial penalty award

Shreeves: 'I asked him'
Fergie: 'F*****g bastard.'
Shreeves: 'Don't talk to me like that.'
Fergie: 'F**k off to you.'
Shreeves: 'Don't talk to me like that. Don't even think about it.'
Fergie: 'Don't you think about it, you c***. F**k off. Right?'
Shreeves: 'Listen, are you going to do the interview in a professional manner or not? Do you want to do it or not?'
Fergie: 'You f*****g be professional. You be professional. You're the one.'
Shreeves: 'I'm entitled to ask . . . . Cristiano gave the right answer.'
Fergie: 'F*****g hell with your answers.'
Shreeves: 'Don't talk to me like that. Go away. If you want to behave civilly, fine. Don't talk to me like that.'
Fergie: 'F**k off.'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Pietas on January 23, 2008, 10:20:38 PM
and your point is....
face it, wenger is a sour, ungracious man, he cant take a beating at all and is patently dishonest
im not questioning his abilities as a manager or the football his team play.
both are outstanding
but he can be an awful asshole
most rational arsenal fans agree

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 10:24:34 PM
F*****g hell with your answers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 23, 2008, 10:29:57 PM
Quote from: Pietas on January 23, 2008, 10:20:38 PM
and your point is....
face it, wenger is a sour, ungracious man, he cant take a beating at all and is patently dishonest
im not questioning his abilities as a manager or the football his team play.
both are outstanding
but he can be an awful asshole
most rational arsenal fans agree



Lucky he doesn't get beat too often then isn't it....At least he will do a interview when he does....He is a born winner..

"In Arsene we trust"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 10:30:47 PM
F*****g bastard.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 23, 2008, 10:34:56 PM
QuoteArsenal finished with about nine 1st choice players on the pitch, but all we've heard about is their 'youth team' or their 'under-16s.'

Team that started.....

Fabianksi
Sagna
Hoyte
Gallas
Traore
Hleb
Denilson
Gilberto
Diaby
Walcott
Bendtner

Of that team only Sagna, Gallas and Hleb would be first choice of the 3 subs used only Adebayor and Fab,  so Arsenal finished with 5 1st choice not 9. So there is obviously another reason why you don't comment on Arsenal because you haven't a clue. Show me a man gracious in defeat and I'll show you a loser. Anyway O'Neill Fergie doesn't give interviews because his son is a fraudster....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 10:38:46 PM
Everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife at home.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 11:51:25 PM
Walcott progress proving slow going

Two years ago Sven-Göran Eriksson surprised everyone with the addition of the 17-year-old Theo Walcott in England's World Cup squad. On Tuesday night, after yet another ineffective performance, the suggestion is that England's bright young hope is fading fast.

A player of obvious potential, as it takes a lot to catch the eye of Arsene Wenger, Walcott has struggled to continue his development among a squad of more talented individuals at Arsenal.

Signing from Southampton for a fee of £5million (rising to £12million after a set number of appearances for club and country) just over two years ago, there has been precious little to suggest that Wenger's 'massive gamble' will pay off.

The Englishman has started only 11 times this season, lasting the full 90 minutes just five times and has seen his first-team opportunities limited to substitute appearances, dead-rubber Champions League matches and the Carling Cup.

Indeed, while Walcott impressed against Slavia Prague in the 7-0 demolition back in October, scoring two goals and receiving widespread praise; the kind of hype that has followed him around since his unexpected journey to Germany has continued to dog a player who, in reality, has only ever shown glimpses of his talent.

Hindered by a congenital shoulder ligament problem that he inherited from his father, the youngster's form was adversely affected last season; although an operation over the summer which caused him to miss out on England's U21 European Championship campaign has cured the ailment.

Even when fully fit, Walcott has failed to impress and Wenger himself has recently voiced some concern over his development.

With Robin Van Persie struggling for fitness this season, one would have assumed that Walcott would be given a chance to shine. Not so. Wenger often chooses to play Alexander Hleb or Thomas Rosicky as a second striker behind the untouchable Emmanuel Adebayor, and Walcott's cause has not been helped by the emergence of Eduardo and Nicklas Bendtner either.

While Wenger may have made a mistake by playing him out of position on the wing (a trick he successfully managed with Thierry Henry before converting him into one of the world's best strikers), it seems that the player himself has a lot of work to do if he is to succeed in the side, as whenever he is given the chance to play through the middle he looks out of his depth.

Lacking the physical presence of an Adebayor or a Van Persie, Walcott's game is based on pace. He has speed in abundance, but rarely gets the chance to use it as Arsenal tend to prefer short passing moves to a long ball over the top.

Without being able to stretch his legs, Walcott is bullied by centre-halves. Tottenham's Ledley King and Michael Dawson had him in their pockets during Tuesday's Carling Cup game, and it took the introduction of Adebayor for Arsenal to cause Spurs' defence any trouble.

While the game should have represented Walcott's big chance to impress, in fact it did almost the opposite and only served to highlight the young striker's limitations - as he was removed from proceedings shortly after the first half.

On a positive note, Wenger has always maintained, if you're good enough, you'll play. An 18-year-old Nicolas Anelka proved himself worthy of a starting place, with 23 goals in 50 starts for the club back in 1998, before deciding to join Real Madrid; and, as a player in the same mould, Walcott can take solace from the fact that Wenger has a history of success in this area.

Yet, while Anelka emerged from out of the shadow of Ian Wright during his two years at Highbury, Walcott has struggled to lay to rest the ghost of another Gunners legend, Thierry Henry.

The comparisons between the two are obvious, especially if you happen to have seen the goal scored by Walcott in the Carling Cup final last year and the added pressure of replacing the talismanic Frenchman cannot have been easy to bear for one so young. That said, the rest of the team have stepped up a gear after Henry's departure to Barcelona and it seems to be Walcott alone who has felt it hardest.

His well-documented admiration for training with Arsenal's leading scorer may mean that while the rest of Wenger's young crop blooms, Walcott mourns. He has yet to net in the League and his recent performances have meant he is not even considered in the same breath as Henry now.

Indeed, not scoring may prove to be a bigger psychological mountain than Henry's legacy for the youngster in the long term, but if he can regain some confidence and add consistency to his obvious potential then the goals should come.

Wenger may maintain that: 'The expectation level is very high because he is young and he has been projected early in the spotlight', but pressure is to be expected at this level. Elsewhere in the Premier League there are players of a similar age who have set the benchmark for success.

A 16-year-old Wayne Rooney shot to fame scoring against Arsenal for Everton and his subsequent £30million transfer to Manchester United made him a household name. Although many would argue that Rooney's build is more suited to the style of the Premier League, the stocky striker has shown that he is more than capable of handling the pressure of a big game (one mad moment against Portugal aside).

Other young Englishman to make the grade after being thrust into the spotlight include Tottenham's Aaron Lennon and Newcastle's James Milner, who have both cemented their places in their club sides and are pushing for further international honours.

Unless Walcott can follow suit, it seems unlikely that he will catch the eye of new England boss Fabio Capello and is destined to go the way of other English talents to pass through the gates at Arsenal. Francis Jeffers, Matthew Upson, Richard Wright, Steven Sidwell and David Bentley were all tipped for the top but failed to make the right impression on Wenger and have continued their careers elsewhere.

While Walcott can consider himself unlucky in his situation, with a large price tag, some over inflated press talk and the fact that he is struggling for that first goal (always more noticeable in the public eye), the time will come when he has to prove himself capable of handling the pressure at a club like Arsenal. Or leave, even if it's only on loan.

Whatever the expectation level heaped upon him, there are few who would bet against Walcott making the grade in the Premier League one day. Whether that is at the Emirates or, like so many before him, it is with another club, remains to be seen.

He's in the right place to further his development, but any progress he makes from now on, is simply up to him.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=501025&root=england&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1&cc=5739
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on January 24, 2008, 01:01:45 AM
Ferguson comes from the back streets of Glasgow and doesn't hide the fact.  When he's annoyed he lets blast and when his team are second best he admits it and never makes excuses about not playing his best 11 - if they are ManU players they are expected to get the result ManU fans expect.  He has no back doors.   

Wenger plays the high class professor type but behind the veil everyone can see he's ungracious, sleeked and deceitful. A great manger but unlike Ferguson doesnt have the repect of many premiership managers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2008, 07:49:09 AM
Fergie's excuses, let's compare:

Fergie makes excuses (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6618279.stm)
Wenger makes no excuses (http://www.4thegame.com/club/arsenal-fc/news/212866/wenger_makes_no_excuses.html)
Fergie makes excuses (http://www.arsenal.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=501936)
Wenger makes no excuses (http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8689_2956971,00.html)


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 24, 2008, 09:46:08 AM
Don't let the truth get in the way O'Neill, we all know Ferguson good, Wenger bad  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2008, 09:56:09 AM
Arsene always managed to bring out the worst (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/1975624.stm) in Fergie
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 24, 2008, 10:23:41 AM
'I'm only on because you are so s**t!' Adebayor to Bendtnar.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 24, 2008, 12:50:32 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 23, 2008, 09:22:02 PM

As for yesterday's game, disillusioned big time with Diaby and Walcott. Diaby seems to be chronically one-footed and wastes so much possession. Lacks any creativity and seems to be dining out on the odd long-range strike.

I said that weeks ago on here!! i think diarra was better.  As for walcott, i think he has great pace but is not good enough for the first team at then minute, maybe he will develop into a good player but for me he is not as good as either barazite as a midfielder or vela as striker so i don't know what the future  holds for him. In truth of Kevin Keegan offered 12M for him in the morning I would bite the hand off him

Would like to see a new centre back coming in (as cover for gallas/toure)and another tackling midfielder but i cannot see any spending unitl the summer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 24, 2008, 06:16:52 PM
Farce.


The FA are charging Chelsea weekly for, well whatever takes their fancy. However in the last few weeks we have seen;

* Ferguson gesticulate at Reading fans.
* Carragher climb onto advertising hoarding and 'have a go' at Luton fans.
* Adebayor push Lee in the face, right under the ref's nose.
* Bentdner and Adebayor go toe to toe, and indeed Adebayor headbutt Bendtner.
* Fabregas throw an object into the Spurs fans.

And guess what....none of them charged by the FA!!! People wonder why Chelsea fans are paranoid!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2008, 10:30:56 PM
Simple, Norf, Chelsea ain't a big enough club to get off with misdemeanours.

Manure v Spuds on Sunday - who do we want to win that one? A draw, followed by a bad tempered replay as Ronaldo is banned for 3 years for making Hitler gestures.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 24, 2008, 10:52:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 24, 2008, 10:30:56 PM
Simple, Norf, Chelsea ain't a big enough club to get off with misdemeanours.


(http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTefaqFplHQWwB92mjzbkF/SIG=122uedhkk/EXP=1201301546/**http%3A//springvalleytroutfarm.com/fisherman.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on January 25, 2008, 09:18:03 AM
QuoteFarce.


The FA are charging Chelsea weekly for, well whatever takes their fancy. However in the last few weeks we have seen;

* Ferguson gesticulate at Reading fans.
* Carragher climb onto advertising hoarding and 'have a go' at Luton fans.
* Adebayor push Lee in the face, right under the ref's nose.
* Bentdner and Adebayor go toe to toe, and indeed Adebayor headbutt Bendtner.
* Fabregas throw an object into the Spurs fans.

And guess what....none of them charged by the FA!!! People wonder why Chelsea fans are paranoid!!

What have been Chelsea been charged for lately?  They deserved to be charged for their heckling of referee's.  But I do agree with regards to Adebayor, its a complete joke how he has got away with this.  He was lucky not to see red for the push on lee.  And you have Wenger and his 'I never seen anything' attitude - he has cancelled the press conference today too.  Typical Wenger, hiding away instead of being a man and actually admitting that Adebayor has done something wrong.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 25, 2008, 09:37:17 AM
QuoteTypical Wenger, hiding away instead of being a man and actually admitting that Adebayor has done something wrong.

I can't believe someone actually took time out of their lives to write that....... ::)

Will be interesting to see what team Wenger names on Saturday (That's if someone can find the French National hide and seek champion) although with an amazing 33 first players the team he picks will no doubt be first choice....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 25, 2008, 09:40:41 AM
"The FA will not take any formal disciplinary action against over the incident involving Arsenal team-mate Nicklas Bendtner during the Carling Cup semi-final second leg against Tottenham but will write to both players to remind them of their responsibilities."

Storm in a tea-cup. Wenger has told both to write a 1000-word essay on Kieran McGeeney.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on January 25, 2008, 12:22:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 24, 2008, 09:56:09 AM
Arsene always managed to bring out the worst (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/1975624.stm) in Fergie

Where as anyone can bring out the worst in wenger.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on January 25, 2008, 12:23:53 PM
But to cheer ONeill up

I present this


Chelsea's Cole is a love cheat , who has a small dick and cant hold his ale apparently.....

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article725180.ece (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article725180.ece)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 25, 2008, 12:55:28 PM
Quote from: An Fear Rua on January 25, 2008, 12:23:53 PM
But to cheer ONeill up

I present this


Chelsea's Cole is a love cheat , who has a small dick and cant hold his ale apparently.....

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article725180.ece (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article725180.ece)

How can we be sure the other fella is telling the truth ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 25, 2008, 01:01:02 PM

Arsenal v Newcastle
FA Cup

Emirates Stadium
Saturday 26 January
Fourth Round
Kick-off: 1500 GMT
Referee: Martin Atkinson (West Yorkshire)
Replay: Wed, 13 February, 1945 GMT
BBC coverage: BBC Sport website, BBC Radio Five Live & highlights on Match of the Day.

Arsenal defenders Philippe Senderos and Gael Clichy are available for the FA Cup fourth round clash with Newcastle.

But Denilson is out for a month with a hamstring injury while Johan Djourou (groin) and Robin van Persie (thigh) remain in the treatment room.

Newcastle team news to follow later.

Arsenal (from): Almunia, Sagna, Senderos, Gallas, Clichy, Rosicky, Fabregas, Flamini, Hleb, Eduardo, Adebayor, Lehmann, Gilberto, Diaby, J Hoyte, Bendtner, Walcott.

1st 11 there look good.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 25, 2008, 01:40:04 PM
"For a footballer, I didn't think he was in great shape. His legs weren't that big and he wasn't completely toned up top.

"He asked me to lie down next to him and before long his hands were all over me.


"We started having sex but it wasn't long before he said he felt sick again.


"Then he just rolled over and vomited on the floor, all over the cream carpet. It was disgusting."


But Cole was not going to let that stop him scoring. Aimee said: "He had some mouthwash, then jumped back into bed.


"We started having sex again but his mates piled into the room.


That lad's went up in my estimation.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 25, 2008, 01:56:48 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 25, 2008, 01:40:04 PM
"For a footballer, I didn't think he was in great shape. His legs weren't that big and he wasn't completely toned up top.

"He asked me to lie down next to him and before long his hands were all over me.


"We started having sex but it wasn't long before he said he felt sick again.


"Then he just rolled over and vomited on the floor, all over the cream carpet. It was disgusting."


But Cole was not going to let that stop him scoring. Aimee said: "He had some mouthwash, then jumped back into bed.


"We started having sex again but his mates piled into the room.


That lad's went up in my estimation.

That fella should have a bit more self respect & dignity, he should not be trailing Coles name through the mud in this manner.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 25, 2008, 02:18:46 PM
QuoteWhat have been Chelsea been charged for lately?  They deserved to be charged for their heckling of referee's.  But I do agree with regards to Adebayor, its a complete joke how he has got away with this.  He was lucky not to see red for the push on lee.  And you have Wenger and his 'I never seen anything' attitude - he has cancelled the press conference today too.  Typical Wenger, hiding away instead of being a man and actually admitting that Adebayor has done something wrong.

They were charged for failing to control ther players after Essien's red card v Derby. I am not defending Chelsea's actions in every instance, although some of the so-called offences are very watery. However the system should be equal for all. At the minute I believe Chelsea are getting a raw deal, and are effectivelly paying for Wembley by direct debit!

Every week I see players of various teams surrounding the ref, but NEVER charged. Essien was given a straight red for an identical challange to that of Adebayor! In addition the recent failed appeal over Ashley Cole's red card also leaves a bitter taste.

Are the FA getting back at Chelsea for 'crimes' committed during the Jose era, that they were too frightened to act on?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 25, 2008, 06:36:08 PM
Oh...and will that be amother £100k into Ashley's pocket from 'The Sun'?

Cole has clashed with the Sun before. In June 2006 the Sun and sister paper the News of the World are understood paid more than £100,000 in libel damages to the footballer as part of an out-of-court settlement.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 28, 2008, 10:51:36 AM
Quote

A third club - reported to be Arsenal - is in the running to sign Middlesbrough defender Jonathan Woodgate after agreeing a fee for the England international.

Tottenham were thought to be favourites ahead of Newcastle to sign the 28-year-old but Boro chief executive Keith Lamb has revealed they have also accepted an offer from another side, with Sky sources reporting it is Arsenal.

"We've agreed a fee with Tottenham and as far as I'm aware he went down at the weekend to have a medical and we're just waiting to see," Lamb said.

"We agreed a fee with Tottenham, Newcastle and another club but we left it up to Jonathan, he could stay or go."

Woodgate is one of Middlesbrough's prize assets but the player has been troubled by injuries in the last few years and Lamb said manager Gareth Southgate was happy to let the player go providing his valuation - believed to be around £8million - was met.

"We've got an abundance of centre-backs and with the emergence of David Wheater and with Robert Huth back and Emanuel Pogatetz, Gareth felt he could let one of them go," Lamb told talkSPORT.

Really don't know what to make of this, he was a good player but hasn't really impressed me in years. Will be interesting to see if he comes at least it shows he's willing to comptete for his place rather than taking the soft option of Newcastle or the spuds...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 28, 2008, 05:28:45 PM
Tough FA cup draw, still if we are going to win it we would have to meet them somewhere along the way. I see we have drifted to 13/2 in the bookies for the cup, might be worth a punt closer to the utd game depending on injuries
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 29, 2008, 09:50:13 PM
Can we play Newcastle every week?

That was enjoyable to watch - Newcastle allow you to play the ball wherever and whenever you want. Adebayor is oozing goalscoring (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/1737306) confidence at the min, but the main man was Flamini. His goal (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1737477) was as good as any scored this year. Fabregas, who was relatively quiet again, notched the third (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1737495).

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 29, 2008, 10:26:09 PM
...and 30 points ahead of Spuds. St Totteringham's day will hopefully fall on March 1st when I'm over.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Broken_Cross on January 30, 2008, 01:37:46 PM
Three cracking goals. Cheers for the links ONeill, missed all but the result lastnight (training).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2008, 11:50:45 PM
Flamini's or Ronaldo's?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZhV2J7bZ9k
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on February 01, 2008, 08:19:05 AM
QuoteFlamini's or Ronaldo's?

Great goal by Flamini however you see one like it every mopnth on goal of the month.  Roanldo's free kick is 1 in 1000.  the only free kick I can vivdly recall being better was Roberto Carlos's banana shot against France and that's nearly 10 years ago.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2008, 08:34:48 AM
Very good O'Neill  :D

But in fairness Ronaldo is probably going to deny Arsenal the title, he's scored more goals than Tevez and Rooney combined, actually Tevez has been pretty impressive as well, the boy Rooney could be another Michael Owen, peaked too early, watched him against Portsmouth and he looked devoid of confidence and has only scored 6 goals this season however Ferdinand, Vidic, Ronaldo and Tevez are all playing too well, need those 4 to lose form because at the moment teams are beaten even before they kick a ball against Man U..

Maybe the Spuds might do the Goons a favour tomorrow....

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2008, 08:58:57 AM
Quotethe only free kick I can vivdly recall being better was Roberto Carlos's banana shot against France and that's nearly 10 years ago.

Under the bar is your name Jamie...

Ronaldo is playing fantastic stuff but lets not getting carried away with the hyperbole of Skysports, check out Jose Manuel Rey's below and de rosario

RVP

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/859783/van_persie_free_kick_against_sunderland/ (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/859783/van_persie_free_kick_against_sunderland/)

Elano


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6vPMBG0xATs
(http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6vPMBG0xATs)

Hunt

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjq2xT-tx38 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjq2xT-tx38)

Jose Manuel Rey


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KfOFifTBNjM (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KfOFifTBNjM)


de rosario

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K-z6iPk_9vM (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K-z6iPk_9vM)


Perspective gentleman please and I didn't even include any of the Brazlian boys, Zico, Ronaldhino or Carlos  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on February 01, 2008, 09:09:51 AM
Quotethe boy Rooney could be another Michael Owen, peaked too early, watched him against Portsmouth and he looked devoid of confidence and has only scored 6 goals this season

He has 10 goals in 22 appearances this season for United, 6 goals in 14 league games.  When you consider he has been injured a few times then I would hardly say he has peaked too early.  It usually takes him a while to get back to his best after being out, as it does with any player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2008, 10:18:45 AM
Quote6 goals in 14 league games.

I said could be by the way, for a free scoring attacking side like Man U that is still a poor return for there main striker...for example RVP has 5 goals in 8 appearances...
Rooney for all the hype has yet to fulfill his talent, he should took at look at Ronaldo, you can only sit back and admire that lad, good attitude as well you never see him mouth of at refs or linesmen, doesn't even dive as much, one of the few premiership stars that I admire.......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on February 01, 2008, 10:27:53 AM
I would agree, but there is no evidence that Rooney could or will fade out like Owen - and Owen's problem is more to do with injury than anything.  Before Rooney hurt his ankle he was in brilliant form, scoring frequently for United both at home and Europe and also scred in Russia for England - what a goal by the way!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2008, 10:38:40 AM
QuoteOwen's problem is more to do with injury than anything

Partly but his attitude to me always poor and in fairness to Rooney he has an excellent work rate and unlike Owen he has an exellent man manager in Fergie I just think Rooney should be consistently better than he is, those chances he missed Wednesday night were criminal and if a Premiership XI was picked in the morning he'd be nowhere near it....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on February 01, 2008, 12:33:51 PM
Some of his misses of late have been bad, especially against Newcastle.  As for a premiership 11, what would yours be then? 

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 01, 2008, 11:19:52 PM
Prob me favourite Arsenal Vid - know him rightly well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXVT6haqutg
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Son_of_Sam on February 01, 2008, 11:24:05 PM
Liverpool fan, but was @ the league game on tuesday Arsenal V Newcastle, great goal by Flemeni. Denis Wise was sitting in section just above us.

Newcastle where utter muck.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on February 02, 2008, 11:27:18 PM
Another good result and results went our way only for our neighbours to let Utd get a point....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 03, 2008, 08:29:07 PM
Go Guinea! Sent our boys home.

Thought Arsenal were returning back to their early-season form yesterday. Adebayor (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1745529)  is simply untouchable (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1745829) at the minute, Eduardo (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1745573) is improving, Hleb and Flamini on top form and Fabregas slowly returning to his normal self. Uncharacteristic mistake from Clichy (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1745596) .With 13 games left you're sort of looking to where you may drop points - the games at Old Tramford and Stamford are going to be hum-dingers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on February 03, 2008, 10:06:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 03, 2008, 08:29:07 PM
Go Guinea! Sent our boys home.

You wish, just gone 3-0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 03, 2008, 10:08:09 PM
QuoteGo Guinea! Sent our boys home.

Feck ye O'Neill...I thought Ivory Coast had lost reading that!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 04, 2008, 02:40:08 PM
this new lad might be a good one for the future?

from arsenal.com

Luke Freeman has been at Arsenal for less than a fortnight - but he has already impressed Arsène Wenger.

The 15-year-old striker had three appearances for Gillingham under his belt when the Frenchman made him his solitary signing during January's transfer window. Wenger took Freeman under his wing on his first day at Arsenal's training ground and liked what he saw.

"When he came in on the first day, I took him with me to see what his characteristics were," revealed Wenger.

"He has had a good education at Gillingham and I am impressed by his personality.

"He is brave, knows what he wants and he is a lively guy in the box.

"He is 15 years old and it is down to him to progress
."


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 04, 2008, 09:01:41 PM
He made his debu for the U18s at the weekend but they lost to West Ham. One of the West Ham scorers was a West Belfast 16 yr old and a certain Mr O'Neill appeared in the second half.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 04, 2008, 09:20:15 PM
It is a very interesting title race. Arsenal should beat Blackburn next Monday, Utd (hopefully) will beat City and Chelsea will beat Liverpool I'd say. As mentioned before in this thread, the team who loses the least amount of points will win the league at this stage.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 04, 2008, 09:23:26 PM
QuoteAs mentioned before in this thread, the team who loses the least amount of points will win the league at this stage.

Plato stuff there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on February 05, 2008, 07:40:25 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 04, 2008, 09:20:15 PM
It is a very interesting title race. Arsenal should beat Blackburn next Monday, Utd (hopefully) will beat City and Chelsea will beat Liverpool I'd say. As mentioned before in this thread, the team who loses the least amount of points will win the league at this stage.

Mystic Meg or what! ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on February 07, 2008, 10:15:43 AM
Great news for Champions League, our prospects are looking up ;D

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=574708


They still have a quality panel to pick from but he's one less worry about.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 07, 2008, 10:25:09 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 04, 2008, 09:20:15 PM
It is a very interesting title race. Arsenal should beat Blackburn next Monday, Utd (hopefully) will beat City and Chelsea will beat Liverpool I'd say. As mentioned before in this thread, the team who loses the least amount of points will win the league at this stage.

I spit my Lemsip out laughing at that :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 07, 2008, 12:03:54 PM
I see Flamini picked up an ankle injury playing for france in a B international. Hope he is not out for too long as Gilberto has definately lost a yards of pace and diaby is not ready for the middle yet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 10, 2008, 10:41:43 PM
I think United suffered a defeat too much today. Fergie was on about having to go unbeaten for the rest of the season if Utd were to win the league this year. Well we were beaten toda  and Arsenal should win the league now. Only 12 games left...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 11, 2008, 08:38:32 AM
Can't see any of the Gooners on this thread can't carried away. If Arsenal win tonight it sends out a statement, if they lose or draw it could be a big blow. Tonight could be the making of this Arsenal side....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 11, 2008, 08:42:31 AM
Massive game. Blackburn have been a thorn in Arsenal's side for years - or rather Hughes has. Tonight's result could mean we're in it for the long haul. It'll be interesting to find out how this side reacts to the 'pressure' of possibly nabbing a 5-point lead.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 11, 2008, 05:00:56 PM
With the oportunity for a 5 point lead available, it is important to go for it with a 4-4-2. An ealy goal will settle us down and then take it from there. Lehmann, Sagna, Hoyte, Gallas, Clichy, Diaby, Flamini,Cesc, Hleb, Eduadro & Adeybayor. I would rather see Hoyte in the middly than gilberto at this stage. He has pace and mccarthy & santa cruz could be a handful. Lets hope bently doesn't come back with a point to prove . I predict 3-1 (hopefully!!!) . 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 11, 2008, 08:18:15 PM
Sendhimhome (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1774840)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 11, 2008, 10:03:16 PM
Well they passed that test but never looked comfortable at 1-0. Helb was excellent, the maligned Gilberto was good and Cesc looked like he was returing to form and Flamini was again the heart beat of this team. Adebayor was terrible all night but took his goal brilliantly...no Toure, no RVP, no Rosicky.....looking good......








Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 11, 2008, 10:06:46 PM
They have played the best football of any club in the Premier League this year
They deserve to win it,I hope they do
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggysego on February 11, 2008, 10:08:06 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on February 11, 2008, 10:06:46 PM
They deserve to win it,I hope they do

Over Liverpool?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 11, 2008, 10:10:25 PM
Quote from: ziggysego on February 11, 2008, 10:08:06 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on February 11, 2008, 10:06:46 PM
They deserve to win it,I hope they do

Over Liverpool?



Ziggy there is more chance of Tyrone winning the Liam McCarthy than Liverpool winning the Premier League this year.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 11, 2008, 10:42:38 PM
Passed the first test is correct. Senderos was fine again and he'll feel a little hard done by when Toure returns. Hleb has been effective all year and the Flamini-Fabregas-Hleb partnership is blossoming brilliantly. Adebayor had an off-night but was mighty determined to keep his run going and forged three chances towards the end. Eduardo is also increasing in confidence and will also feel a little cheesed off if RVP automatically replaces him. The speed and strength at which Clichy, Sagna and Gallas fire accurate passes at each other is frightening.

Lehmann's hop, skip and jump before the kick-outs is sublime. Nutter.

Onto Utd in the cup. Because of the way Arsenal's title challenge is panning out, it's away down in the list of priorities. Does a victory for either offer a psychological advantage?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on February 11, 2008, 10:45:12 PM
arsenal should send out their youth team for united game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on February 12, 2008, 09:48:59 AM
QuoteLehmann's hop, skip and jump before the kick-outs is sublime

Is Almunia injured?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Declan on February 12, 2008, 09:55:34 AM
Enjoyed that game last night and thought Blackburn played really well. Arsenal are a joy to watch when they move the ball at pace. League is over
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2008, 10:59:35 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on February 12, 2008, 09:48:59 AM
QuoteLehmann's hop, skip and jump before the kick-outs is sublime

Is Almunia injured?

Yes, some kind of thumb injury. Lehmann's performed well since.

As for the league being over - Arsenal have yet to visit Old Trafford and Stamford. All it takes is one black patch and this week will seem a million years ago.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 12, 2008, 11:34:59 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 12, 2008, 10:59:35 AM
[Yes, some kind of thumb injury. Lehmann's performed well since.

As for the league being over - Arsenal have yet to visit Old Trafford and Stamford. All it takes is one black patch and this week will seem a million years ago.

Your right there, but the one thing it does,is it creates a little breathing space. 
With regard to the cup game at the weekend. It is a tough one to call especially with  the champions league game on wednesday night. If we field a weakened team then any psycological advantage utd would gain is out the window. I think we will go with a full team though. Although i fancy man utd to take it. As long as we get a least a point in the league game there i will settle for that!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2008, 11:54:22 AM
I wonder if Utd will also have one eye on the trip to Lyon. I'd like to see:

Lehmann
Eboue - Hoyte - Toure - Traore
Walcott - Song - Gilberto - Hleb (If Diaby or Denilson fit - start them)
Eduardo - Bendtner

Give rests to: Sagna, Gallas, Clichy, Fabregas, Flamini and Adebayor (or on bench).

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2008, 11:58:32 AM
Adebayor - Henry is keeping me focused on the title


By Richard Clarke

Emmanuel Adebayor has revealed that Thierry Henry is helping to keep him motivated for the title run-in.

The Togolese striker scored his 19th Premier League goal of the campaign on Monday night as Arsenal beat Blackburn 2-0 to go five points clear at the top of the table.

It is a far cry from the pre-season predictions of doom and gloom; much of which was based on Henry's departure to Barcelona. Since then Adebayor has filled his shooting boots with aplomb but the Frenchman is still having an influence.

"Thierry to me is like a big brother," said the 23-year-old in the tunnel less than an hour after the match. "He already sent a message to me after the game to congratulate me.

"He talked to me a lot during the summer when he was leaving, he calls me and we have a lot of chats. He believes in my strength and my quality so I just want to thank him a lot because he helped me out a lot.

"A lot of times he sends me messages saying that I may have scored 15 or 16 but I know you can score more if you concentrate in every game.

"That is what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to listen to the advice and at the moment it's working so I'm very happy. I think Thierry keeps in touch with a lot of people [here]."

Monday's victory put a little daylight between Arsenal and the chasing pair. However, if anything, it only adds to the pressure on Wenger's side. As the questions to Adebayor demonstrated.

"I don't know about it being our title to lose," he replied to one. "The feeling I have is that we have a good squad, we want to win it and we can achieve it. So we just have to keep doing our job and enjoy ourselves on the pitch.

"Five points [clear] is very good and we are very happy. Like we always said, the title is really something this year but we know Man United can always come from behind somewhere. We just want to keep our focus and keep what we are doing at the moment.

"We are enjoying ourselves on the pitch," he concluded. "We can talk about whether we win the title at the end of the season."

Arse.com
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on February 12, 2008, 07:50:06 PM
Quote from: Declan on February 12, 2008, 09:55:34 AM
Enjoyed that game last night and thought Blackburn played really well. Arsenal are a joy to watch when they move the ball at pace. League is over

:D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 12, 2008, 08:44:53 PM
League is not over, but the Goons have one hand on it me think. I think that away cruise in Goodison a few weeks back was the game that Arsenal dispelled a few myths (Including my own) that people may have had regarding them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 12, 2008, 09:25:16 PM
They weren't myths, they were serious problems arsenal used to have against teams like everton Bolton Blackburn etc. They seem to have conquered those issues.

I still think there's a bit more drama left this season.

'There's many a slip twixt cup and lip'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: supersarsfields on February 12, 2008, 09:48:59 PM
Naw the league isn't over yet. As they say there's the games at OT and Stamford. But it does mean if Arsenal get any sort of a result in these games then it's hard to look past them. Cheski and MU will know if they slip up in those games then it's going to make things very hard for them!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 13, 2008, 08:31:03 AM
Anyone notice that the Gooners on this thread are the ones not counting chickens now the lot of you clear of to....

The Biggest Bestest player in the whole wide world aka The Man U thread....or This is going to be our year thread aka the The Dellusionists Thread aka the Liverpool Thread or the 1 post a month thread aka The Chelsea Thread...... :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 13, 2008, 09:14:32 AM
QuoteThis is going to be our year thread aka the The Dellusionists Thread aka the Liverpool Thread

We'll be right some time Dinny. And then we will be insufferable :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 13, 2008, 09:52:07 AM
QuoteAnd then we will be insufferable

There's irony there somewhere  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 13, 2008, 09:56:21 AM
I thought you might pick up on that :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 14, 2008, 07:08:56 PM
List of injuries:

Johan Djourou (groin)
Robin van Persie (thigh)
Abou Diaby (calf)
Manuel Almunia (sick)
Denilson (hamstring)
Tomas Rosicky (hamstring)
Walcott (thigh)
Clichy (hamstring)
Sagna (personal reasons)
Senderos (knee/thigh).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 15, 2008, 10:50:28 AM
Adebayor spake:

http://arseblog.com/columns/2008/02/12/adebayor-comprehension-made-easy-part-2/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 16, 2008, 12:07:09 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 14, 2008, 07:08:56 PM
List of injuries:

Johan Djourou (groin)
Robin van Persie (thigh)
Abou Diaby (calf)
Manuel Almunia (sick)
Denilson (hamstring)
Tomas Rosicky (hamstring)
Walcott (thigh)
Clichy (hamstring)
Sagna (personal reasons)
Senderos (knee/thigh).

If it was the league, I doubt they'd be as many injuries. Is Wenger holding back on the FA Cup to preserve his side for the league. Maybe a defeat at OT of a first choice Goons side, would be a pyschological blow and Wenger is aware of that, and wants to avoid that scenario.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on February 16, 2008, 10:03:51 PM
Lucky tonight that ManuU din't win 10-0 such was the gulf in class.  With any luck yis will only have to play them once more this season!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2008, 10:17:58 PM
Class had nothing to do with it. Fergie knows it. What Utd had was spirit, hunger and the pain of last week's defeat. Arsenal were simply too concerned with the visit of the European Champions on Wednesday. I say fair play to Utd.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on February 16, 2008, 10:23:13 PM
QuoteClass had nothing to do with it. Fergie knows it.

If you didn't see a gulf in class on the pitch tonite then buy a new telly.  Both teams had an equal eye on Europe but United outclassed Arsenal in every dept, which was why Arsenal players resorted to kicking and did well to finish with 10 men.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 16, 2008, 10:32:19 PM
Quote from: under the bar on February 16, 2008, 10:23:13 PM
QuoteClass had nothing to do with it. Fergie knows it.

If you didn't see a gulf in class on the pitch tonite then buy a new telly.  Both teams had an equal eye on Europe but United outclassed Arsenal in every dept, which was why Arsenal players resorted to kicking and did well to finish with 10 men.

I never knew Arsenal had 10 men until I read that! Is there an irony there on the day JT makes his comeback from an Eboue (I think) challange that probably should've merited a red card!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 16, 2008, 11:12:24 PM
QuoteIf you didn't see a gulf in class on the pitch tonite then buy a new telly.  Both teams had an equal eye on Europe but United outclassed Arsenal in every dept, which was why Arsenal players resorted to kicking and did well to finish with 10 men.

Such rubbish, nothing to do with class Arsenal were simply beaten by the better side on the night who were hurting from last week. For God's sake Fletcher was the best player on the pitch  ::)

One less game for Arsenal to worry about, as NT mentions if that was a league game Arsenal would have played more than four first choice players. Fergie knows that Wenger didn't giive a damn about the FA Cup this year and his own team selection reflected that as did the Arsenal players attitude which was probably the most disappointing thing about that game.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 16, 2008, 11:14:43 PM
Quote from: under the bar on February 16, 2008, 10:23:13 PM
QuoteClass had nothing to do with it. Fergie knows it.

If you didn't see a gulf in class on the pitch tonite then buy a new telly.  Both teams had an equal eye on Europe but United outclassed Arsenal in every dept, which was why Arsenal players resorted to kicking and did well to finish with 10 men.

Just what I was wondering, if they didn't give a shite about the game why did they go around kicking? 
Nani was lucky to walk of the field. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2008, 08:42:18 AM
QuoteNani was lucky to walk of the field.

Yea he could have died  ::)

Fair dues to Gallas for not going down when hit by Nani's pathetic head butt.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2008, 09:25:11 AM
Fair dues to Fergie for criticising Nani.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 17, 2008, 10:21:17 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2008, 08:42:18 AM
QuoteNani was lucky to walk of the field.

Yea he could have died  ::)

Fair dues to Gallas for not going down when hit by Nani's pathetic head butt.

You'd hardly die from kn**ker cowards kicking at you when you're back is turned.
I wish he had to go down with the "head butt" - the other lanky fella from Arsenal going down in the box looking a penalty was  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 17, 2008, 11:52:10 AM
i really hope arsenes plan works!! We can now concentrate on the league & champions league. In truth we don't have the depth in squad to chalenge on 3 fronts and could have ended up with nothing. I know that can still happen but, ig by going out of the cup we have a better chance of winning the league so be it. United although not at full strength either were by far the hungrier team, we were totally out played so there can be no quible about the result. With regard to nani though. If someone is showboating like that players are going to get pissed off and then try to foul him. Somehow I dont think the league game in old trafford will have any room for that type of shit, although the tackles will no doubt be flying but for different reasons!.

Roll on wednesday night!! my prediction arsenal by 2 but lets hope we can keep the clean sheet.     
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 17, 2008, 12:56:40 PM
QuoteWith regard to nani though. If someone is showboating like that players are going to get pissed off and then try to foul him.

Oh that's alright then  ::)

If someone shows a bit of skill to keep the ball they're "showboating"?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2008, 01:01:45 PM
Anyone can do it in their own half running away from the opposition goal, I wouldn't call it showboating I'd call it stupid...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2008, 01:15:56 PM
I see Milan drew 0-0 yesterday.

MILAN:
Kalac; Cafu, Nesta, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Emerson, Ambrosini, Serginho; Kakà; Inzaghi

from babelfish

the Milan to the Tardini

The rossoneri of Ancelotti do not go al.di.là.dello 0-0 to the Tardini against a careful and very disposed Parma in field. Presence number 1000 for capitan Maldini. Milan that momentarily catches up the Fiorentina to the quarter place in classifies In the first minuteren of game the Parma us test above all with shooting from the long distance.

To 12' with Pisanu and the 4 minuteren after with Reginaldo but, both tried ones, they finish to you high over the crosspiece. The Milan answers to the 18' with a free kick struck from Kakà of right, the ball ends but on the bottom. Always number 22 rossonero little after attracts on himself the attention when ago to leave left a powerful one that finishes to the right of Bucci. The Parma, that it grazes the goal in more than an occasion in the ten final minuteren, demonstrates however not to have no reverenziale fear in the comparisons of the adversaries indeed, interprets R-al.meglio the challenge, with grinta and conviction. In the Ancelotti resumption it inserts Pirlo and Gilardino in place of Gattuso and Serginho for giving pushed more to the centrocampo. While Dida comes removed from the park bench in stretcher for one strange and unexpected pain to the back.

The entered neo Pirlo is made endured to notice with a violent punishment from defiladed position, Bucci rejects with the fists blanketing the first occasion of the Milan in this according to time. Us test also Inzaghi but its turn of left goes high over the crosspiece. Of Carl it tries to give oxygen to the square and recalls Reginaldo and Lucarelli for Gasbarroni and Budan. And the hoped effect arrives immediately. Gasbarroni constructs the action and supplies the ball of the possible one assist for Budan. The Croatian avoids the game outside and forces Kalac to the parade save-result. Kakà puts in extension its class on a traversone from the right of Cafu: stop of chest and right to the flight that forces Bucci to the extraordinary ones. The 0-0 is not unblocked but the rossonero people have however a valid reason in order to sing and make themselves to feel: in field official contest enters in fact the stainless Paul Maldini to its 1000a. Maldini, than I reach it will complete 40 years, it goes to replace Jankulovski. The rossoneri ones still believe us and to 28' on free kick the Pirlo usual it makes to remain of Bucci chalk, the ball exits of least.

It is not ended I besiege of the devils. Before (29) Inzaghi test, rejects the opposing porter to us, then Gilardino, and this time is Zenoni that avoids to the Parma the net of the disadvantage. They do not let go the men of Ancelotti, to prescribed time practically expired Emerson it sends the balls to stars, or to the ortiche, from the tribune Braida and Galliani they chew bitter. Also Budan makes to shake the public gialloblu in contest closing. It tries the conclusion from the right and succeeds nearly in the impossible enterprise of beffare Kalac on its pole. It finishes therefore 0-0, for the Parma a half full glass, for the Milan a glass empty means inasmuch as it hardly scrapes together 2 points in two contests and, above all, does not go to sign for before the time after 14 consecutive contests.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 17, 2008, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2008, 01:01:45 PM
Anyone can do it in their own half running away from the opposition goal, I wouldn't call it showboating I'd call it stupid...

Using his head to keep on to the ball that was slow coming down and someone on his heels, I'd call it skill.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2008, 01:22:46 PM
Anyone else agree the babelfish translations makes more sense than the dimwit above!! (where's the rolling laughter sign)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 17, 2008, 03:41:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 17, 2008, 01:22:46 PM
Anyone else agree the babelfish translations makes more sense than the dimwit above!! (where's the rolling laughter sign)

Don't be taking your bad form out on me shane, it's not my fault Utd beat you 4-0.
I thought you didn't care anyway?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2008, 05:43:14 PM
Unlucky lad. If tears of laughter at your attempts to pretend you know a little about what you're talking about I hope I'm in bad form for a few years!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2008, 06:11:32 PM
They were well earned though.

Back to the thread - anyone on here going over to the Villa game on March 1st by any chance?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2008, 06:15:48 PM
I wonder will they be showing it in London.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2008, 06:44:12 PM
The link between this loss, the CC loss to Spuds and the beating by Sevilla all have is that Hoyte and Traore were starters on the back line in each match.

Now, I hope AW has taken note.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 18, 2008, 02:17:21 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 17, 2008, 12:56:40 PM
Oh that's alright then  ::)
If someone shows a bit of skill to keep the ball they're "showboating"?

Do you think nani would have tried that if man utd were not 3-0 up at the time? So yes i would call it show boating. I am not disputing the fact that he was displaying skill. But in a tight game he would not have attempted it, because alex ferguson would have given him the bollocking of a lifetime and maybe even kicked a boot at him!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on February 18, 2008, 05:10:47 PM
Amazed at the response to Nani's keeping the ball up. Just shows how pathetic soccer fans can be (and I know I am one, sort of). People pay hundreds to see these games. A young Portuguese player dares to keep the ball up and away from an Arsenal player on his back, and they are all criticising him, saying he deserves a kicking. If he can do it fair play to him, Arsenal's respons was a disgrace.
Henry done many similar things in his time. Look at that penalty fluff with Pires, arrogance and almost humiliating the opponent thinking he was so far above their levels. But who cares, if you're good enough go out and entertain, for f**ks sake it's not against the rules. Henry was rightly lauded as a genius for the things he tried, love to see players doing something new or interesting.
Title: Arsen-nil fans set new world record
Post by: T Fearon on February 18, 2008, 06:48:58 PM
After Man City fans poignantly respected the one minute's silence at Old Trafford last week, Arsenal fans produced 90 minutes of silence at the same venue last Saturday ;D
Title: Re: Arsen-nil fans set new world record
Post by: doire na raithe on February 18, 2008, 06:56:46 PM
I'm sure some interpetation of one of the rules will enable me to report this thread.
Title: Re: Arsen-nil fans set new world record
Post by: doire na raithe on February 18, 2008, 07:00:55 PM
I refer you to rule 5. Creating facetious or duplicate topics. This clearly could have been posted on any of the recent threads such as: the Manchester United thread, offical gooners thread or on the neutral 'FA Cup on the BBC' thread. I will be bringing this total disrespect for the GAA community on this board to the attention of the mods and I hope you are dealt with accordingly.
Title: Re: Arsen-nil fans set new world record
Post by: Double Cross on February 18, 2008, 07:02:54 PM
Is the truth in breach of a rule?
Title: Re: Arsen-nil fans set new world record
Post by: doire na raithe on February 18, 2008, 07:08:00 PM
The meaning of 'facetious': lacking serious intent; concerned with something nonessential, amusing, or frivolous remark.

I believe it is also strongly in breach of the 'duplicating topics' part of the rule.
Title: Re: Arsen-nil fans set new world record
Post by: Double Cross on February 18, 2008, 07:10:05 PM
There is nothing facetious in the original post. I think even the most ardent Arsenil fan would have to admit that they did observe a 90 minute silence at the weekend.
Title: Re: Arsen-nil fans set new world record
Post by: Square Ball on February 18, 2008, 07:11:06 PM
to the gallows with him
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 19, 2008, 03:43:58 PM
from arsenal.com

Arsène Wenger has six players back to full fitness for the visit of Milan on Wednesday.

Gael Clichy, Mathieu Flamini and Emmanuel Adebayor were on duty at Manchester United last Saturday despite being troubled by hamstring injuries. All those will be ready to play against the Champions League holders at Emirates Stadium.

Bacary Sagna is available while Denilson and Theo Walcott have been added to the squad. However Manuel Almunia is still recovering from a virus so Jens Lehmann will keep his place.

"Bacary Sagna is back so are Gael Clichy, Mathieu Flamini and Emmanuel Adebayor," said Wenger at his pre-match press conference on Tuesday.

"Manuel Almunia is not completely ready to play. But he is getting there and is very close now. Jens Lehmann will start.

"Denilson is back in the squad and Theo Walcott is in too. But Johan Djourou, Robin van Persie, Abou Diaby, Tomas Rosicky are all still out."

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 19, 2008, 10:09:35 PM
ARSENAL goalkeeper Manuel Almunia's house is being HAUNTED by the ghost of a monk.

The star's wife spotted the ghoul at their swish pad on the site of an old asylum.

Spaniard Almunia, 30, has also heard chains rattling and had stereos turning on at full volume on their own. He is so spooked boss Arsene Wenger has given him permission to go home for lunch to avoid leaving wife Ana alone at the house in Abbots Langley, Herts.

Terrified Almunia said yesterday: "My house is small but there is a lot of history to it and it seems there are ghosts.

"It's in a place where there was a psychiatric hospital. They sent mental patients there and people who were sick after the Second World War.

"When we first moved in we heard a lot of strange noises like chains being dragged around.

"Then when we were sleeping the stereo came on at full volume. Some very strange things were happening.

"One night, we were sleeping and my wife suddenly woke me up with a shout. She said there was this monk-like figure with a candle in his hand. She was in bed, next to me. I didn't see him but I was s*** scared.

"We've spoken to neighbours, and they said this was normal.

"Perhaps it's black magic, I don't know. But some weird things were definitely going on."

Locals believe the mental institution Almunia's home was built on was The Leavesden Hospital, which was shut in the 1990s.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article817076.ece


Is this why he has been ill?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 19, 2008, 10:29:41 PM
I wonder if Mad Jens has been at his work?
Title: Adebayor up thr Kyber
Post by: An Fear Rua on February 19, 2008, 11:03:03 PM
http://arseblog.com/columns/2008/02/03/adebayor-comprehension-made-easy/ (http://arseblog.com/columns/2008/02/03/adebayor-comprehension-made-easy/)

http://arseblog.com/columns/2008/02/12/adebayor-comprehension-made-easy-part-2/ (http://arseblog.com/columns/2008/02/12/adebayor-comprehension-made-easy-part-2/)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 21, 2008, 12:19:19 PM
toure out for 3 or 4 weeks according to arsenal.com.

Thought we would have snatched a goal last night. WE had them under some serious pressure late on. The good thing though is that we didn't conceed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 21, 2008, 05:04:18 PM
The second half was all arsenal - how we didnt make better chances is beyond me. In the last 15 minutes we had something like 6 shots straight at the milan keeper.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on February 21, 2008, 05:07:24 PM
Great to see the Goons struggle against OAP's like Maldini and I fancy Milan to finish the job emphatically at the San Siro in a fortnight's time, just as they did last year against Man Ure, leaving Chelsea and Spurs as London's only hope of European Honours this season ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 23, 2008, 03:39:54 PM
(http://chelsea2.chelseafc.com/chat/uploads/86194619.jpg)

Holy feck  :o

Haven't seen the tackle yet, teletext states a horror tackle while radio 5 says not as bad as it looks! Good luck to the lad regardless.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 23, 2008, 04:05:34 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/search/arsenal/video/x4h4u3_arsenal-blessure-horrible-eduardo_sport (http://www.dailymotion.com/search/arsenal/video/x4h4u3_arsenal-blessure-horrible-eduardo_sport)


The tackle.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 23, 2008, 04:12:25 PM
That was sickening and Taylor should get a 6 month ban minimum.

Commenting on the game after that would not feel right. It will be a long road to recovery, very sad day.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on February 23, 2008, 04:29:59 PM
Eduardo will miss Euro 2008 with Croatia.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 23, 2008, 04:36:02 PM
QuoteThat was sickening and Taylor should get a 6 month ban minimum.
I thought it was simply mistimed, I don't think there was any intent there.


Hopefully the lad will make a full recovery and get back on the pitch as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 23, 2008, 04:46:41 PM
QuoteI thought it was simply mistimed, I don't think there was any intent there.

The only person who knows whether there was intent is Taylor, the fact that he got a straight red is obvious the ref thought there was intent. It was a stupid reckless tackle  and Taylor deserves a lot more than a poxy 3 game ban..

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 23, 2008, 04:52:40 PM
Terrible injury. I hope he recovers from it. He is young enough to. I had not seen it during the game. But the stills would make you want to puke. It reminds me of that break that larrson suffered.

It definately efffected the first half performance. Second half we should have closed out the game, Gallas was rightly disgusted at full time, however he acted like a school boy and went huffing. As captain he should be rallying the team together.
Injury list is mounting, only 2 fit strikers, although maybe with walcott in the goals today, he will get some confidence and may fill in up front.
2 points droped lets hope king kev can do us a favour!!- what is it he says himself" i would love it if we beat them" (well i would too kev!!)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 23, 2008, 04:55:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 23, 2008, 04:46:41 PM
[The only person who knows whether there was intent is Taylor, the fact that he got a straight red is obvious the ref thought there was intent. It was a stupid reckless tackle  and Taylor deserves a lot more than a poxy 3 game ban..



i wonder willl there be legal action, i remember after the tackle on diaby v sunderland a couple of years ago wenger hinting at it. IMO this was worse
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 23, 2008, 04:58:52 PM
Personally- and casting any bias aside- I don't think it was the worst tackle I've ever seen. He wasn't really over the top nor high, and it looked simply very badly timed. Probably deserved a red card, but don't agree there was a lot of intent.

Tacke of legal action is stupid. Sure why doesn't Nani get Gallas charged for his assault last week?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 23, 2008, 05:00:39 PM
Poor fella, that just brought back memories of Big Peter throwing up when Busst got his leg done.


Points dont really matter after that, but It would be great if United get beaten.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on February 23, 2008, 05:07:35 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 23, 2008, 04:58:52 PM
Personally- and casting any bias aside- I don't think it was the worst tackle I've ever seen. He wasn't really over the top nor high, and it looked simply very badly timed. Probably deserved a red card, but don't agree there was a lot of intent.

Tacke of legal action is stupid. Sure why doesn't Nani get Gallas charged for his assault last week?

(http://www.4thegame.com/media/gallery/3379.jpg)

I'm sure he didn't mean to break his leg, but that was a dangerous, high tackle. Even if he had got there in time, he would have went over the top of the ball.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 23, 2008, 05:10:08 PM
QuoteSure why doesn't Nani get Gallas charged for his assault last week?

What a stupid comment, Eduardo has a broken leg probaly career threatening and you trivialise it with that comment. Yet you're the same clown you cliamed Eboue tried to do Terry and should have been banned. You should really take your hypocritical comments to the one post a month thread, I think every Gooner here is getting tired off your anti-Arsenal paranoid rantings and ravings......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 23, 2008, 05:21:43 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 23, 2008, 04:58:52 PM
Personally- and casting any bias aside- I don't think it was the worst tackle I've ever seen. He wasn't really over the top nor high, and it looked simply very badly timed. Probably deserved a red card, but don't agree there was a lot of intent.

Tacke of legal action is stupid. Sure why doesn't Nani get Gallas charged for his assault last week?

As a chelsea fan you have a short memory remember  paul elliot (chelsea) taking dean saunders (liverpool)  to court? I know he lost the case but there is precedent for legal action.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on February 23, 2008, 06:18:10 PM

Should the punishment for a tackle be dependent on the outcome of that tackle?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tintin25 on February 23, 2008, 06:22:07 PM
It was a bad tackle but I don't think there was any intent on Taylor's part. It's unfortunate for Eduardo but Wengers comments after the game were ridiculous....saying Taylor should never play footy again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 23, 2008, 06:23:55 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on February 23, 2008, 06:22:07 PM
It was a bad tackle but I don't think there was any intent on Taylor's part. It's unfortunate for Eduardo but Wengers comments after the game were ridiculous....saying Taylor should never play footy again.
Typical Wenger though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on February 23, 2008, 06:32:52 PM
Quote from: Uladh on February 23, 2008, 06:18:10 PM

Should the punishment for a tackle be dependent on the outcome of that tackle?

I don't think so. Bad tackles happen - there's no getting around it, and its a risk everyone who steps onto a football field takes. Taylor caught Eduardo's standing leg, which is always going to come out much worse. However, a high, studs-showing tackle should be harshly punished, no matter what the outcome.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 23, 2008, 06:58:11 PM
QuoteIt was a bad tackle but I don't think there was any intent on Taylor's part. It's unfortunate for Eduardo but Wengers comments after the game were ridiculous....saying Taylor should never play footy again.

So Wenger's not allowed be emotive after a game that saw him lose a player to an horrendous disgraceful tackle and then saw the referee gift Birmingham a point with a penalty that never was, I swear people on this board have never played sport at any level.....



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on February 23, 2008, 07:02:50 PM
Horrible injury and wish Eduardo all the best

What was Gallas doing over kicking the 4th officials box while the peno was being taken ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2008, 07:13:37 PM
He definitely didn't set out to break his leg and, as it was so early in the game, you can only accept it was badly timed and reckless. I'm sure Taylor is distraught right now. Feel very sorry for Eduardo. The first year of his big move, and he was becoming a mainstay. I'd imagine RVP is being fast-tracked.

Terrible result. Terrible concentration. Gallas is a very passionate player and would have been incensed at the way Arsenal didn't kill them off. Every game is a cup final now, starting with Villa on Saturday.

Worried though. Utd need to drop a few soon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tintin25 on February 23, 2008, 07:24:04 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 23, 2008, 06:58:11 PM
QuoteIt was a bad tackle but I don't think there was any intent on Taylor's part. It's unfortunate for Eduardo but Wengers comments after the game were ridiculous....saying Taylor should never play footy again.

So Wenger's not allowed be emotive after a game that saw him lose a player to an horrendous disgraceful tackle and then saw the referee gift Birmingham a point with a penalty that never was, I swear people on this board have never played sport at any level.....





Of course he's allowed to be emotive but his comments were still OTT. As O'Neill said....you can only accept it was badly timed and reckless whilst Taylor prob feels like crap. I wish Eduardo a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2008, 07:35:43 PM
Some horrific tales circulating regarding his condition, to the extent of amputation due to blood supply problem - I'm hope that's just the internet Chinese whispers. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 23, 2008, 09:34:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 23, 2008, 05:10:08 PM
QuoteSure why doesn't Nani get Gallas charged for his assault last week?

What a stupid comment, Eduardo has a broken leg probaly career threatening and you trivialise it with that comment. Yet you're the same clown you cliamed Eboue tried to do Terry and should have been banned. You should really take your hypocritical comments to the one post a month thread, I think every Gooner here is getting tired off your anti-Arsenal paranoid rantings and ravings......

I am far from trivialising the matter Dinny. It's a life serious incident for the fella no doubt. I appreciate you are emotive tonight, as you are peeved with the result, and more importantly with the incident. I still agrere that Eboue should've been banned, as should and will Taylor. However my reposte was to the call for legal action. I never called for legal action for ANY incident, but agree it should be governed within the laws of the game 99.9% of the time. My reply, maybe was OTT re Nani, but it was to show how OTT the original comment was in my opinion.
As I said I know your pissed, but the name calling is not your style I'd of thought......


Idanach "As a chelsea fan you have a short memory remember  paul elliot (chelsea) taking dean saunders (liverpool)  to court? I know he lost the case but there is precedent for legal action. "

I am not sure what Paul Elliott does with his life has anything to do with me? I never told him to sue Saunders!

O'Neill fair play for throwing some reason on the debate, as I am unsure I could do in the circumstances.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on February 23, 2008, 09:55:46 PM
Lads lets keep it in perspective,youse are losing the run of yourselves,of course it was a horrible injury but nobody died,he will receive the best medical treatment. It looked a similar one to cisses against blackburn a few years ago and he made a full recovery
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on February 23, 2008, 10:25:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 23, 2008, 07:13:37 PM
He definitely didn't set out to break his leg and, as it was so early in the game, you can only accept it was badly timed and reckless. I'm sure Taylor is distraught right now. Feel very sorry for Eduardo. The first year of his big move, and he was becoming a mainstay. I'd imagine RVP is being fast-tracked.

Terrible result. Terrible concentration. Gallas is a very passionate player and would have been incensed at the way Arsenal didn't kill them off. Every game is a cup final now, starting with Villa on Saturday.

Worried though. Utd need to drop a few soon.

Don't forget Chelsea.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 24, 2008, 04:22:39 AM
Sensible:
Arsene Wenger has retracted his statement concerning Taylor and if he should play football citing that it was an emotional afternoon for all involved.


Ricidulous:
Former Birmingham manager Steve Bruce on the tackle:

"He would never, ever do anything malicious. He has mis-timed the tackle, and I've seen it. Some would say it is not even a yellow card."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on February 24, 2008, 10:30:18 AM

There's a very strong argument that only for the unfortunate damage edwardo suffered, taylor would not have been sent off
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 24, 2008, 11:35:05 AM
Quote from: Uladh on February 24, 2008, 10:30:18 AM

There's a very strong argument that only for the unfortunate damage edwardo suffered, taylor would not have been sent off

Nonsense. The ref flashed the red card immediately without going anywhere near Eduardo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on February 24, 2008, 12:59:35 PM
The actual tackle wasn't the worst ive seen...it was just bad luck that Eduardo got so badly injured  :-\

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on February 24, 2008, 02:00:23 PM
horrific injury, if he makes a full  recovery it'll be a miracle!read somewhere that the ambulance paramedic said the ankle and foot was hangin on by skin..sickening
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 24, 2008, 02:06:43 PM
First of all I'd like to wish Eduardo all the best with his recovery, I actually think he's a very good player and once he had settled in the Prem I think he would have been a star (and I'm a Chelsea fan).

It was by no means the worst tackle I've ever seen (anyone remember Gerrard's two footed, studs up tackle against Everton a few years ago??) but obviously the outcome was horrific and on another day Eduardo's shinpad would have taken most of the impact and a free kick and yellow card might have ensued.  However I have noticed recently the one or two footed studs up lunge creeping into the game and the FA should act to nip it in the bud.

As for Eduardo, I hope he can come back...Cisse managed to come back from a similar injury and Henrik Larsson came back from a similar injury to be an even better player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 25, 2008, 09:58:52 AM
from arsenal.com

Eduardo has given his account of the terrible events at Birmingham City on Saturday.

The Croatian, 25 on Monday, broke his leg following a challenge from Blues defender Martin Taylor in the third minute of the game at St Andrews. He was taken to hospital and underwent surgery that night. The striker has since returned to a London-based hospital for further treatment.

Speaking for the first time after the incident, the summer signing  from Dinamo Zagreb ruled himself out of the rest of the season and Euro 2008 in the summer. However, he added that he is 'determined to overcome this injury'.

"I don't remember the incident very well and it is not something that I want to see again on television or in the newspapers," said Eduardo.

"All I remember is that when I fell, I looked down at my foot and it had turned the other way. The rest is just a blank. It was an unfortunate situation but these things can happen in football.

"I am unsure at the moment of the extent of the injury and how long I will be out of action for but I know that I won't be able to play for Arsenal for the rest of the season or be ready in time for the Euros this summer.

"But I'm not worried about that. My concentration and determination is on making as quick a recovery as possible. I am determined to overcome this injury.

"I would like to thank the medical team here at Arsenal for their efforts as well as the staff at Selly Oak Hospital who carried out the operation on Saturday night. Everyone there made me feel as comfortable as possible. 

"I would also like to say how touched I am by the many messages of support I have received and to be surrounded by my loved ones at this time."


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 25, 2008, 10:03:29 AM
Quote from: J70 on February 23, 2008, 05:07:35 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 23, 2008, 04:58:52 PM
Personally- and casting any bias aside- I don't think it was the worst tackle I've ever seen. He wasn't really over the top nor high, and it looked simply very badly timed. Probably deserved a red card, but don't agree there was a lot of intent.

Tacke of legal action is stupid. Sure why doesn't Nani get Gallas charged for his assault last week?

(http://www.4thegame.com/media/gallery/3379.jpg)

I'm sure he didn't mean to break his leg, but that was a dangerous, high tackle. Even if he had got there in time, he would have went over the top of the ball.

As someone said, only Taylor will know whether he meant to do damage or not, but regardless, as a professional footballer, you KNOW the risks of going in late, high and with studs showing. It was a disgraceful tackle in my opinion. Professionals know that tackles like that are potential career enders, so at the very least Taylor was reckless.

The images remind me of David Busst's career ender (accidental of course) against United. I hope Eduardo doesn't suffer the same fate.

As for Taylor, I would love to ban him for the length of time that Eduardo is out, but at least until the end of this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 25, 2008, 05:20:00 PM
Just heard on the radio.Eduardo will hopefully be back in 9 months. He fractured his left fibula and dislocated his ankle.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 25, 2008, 05:24:46 PM
Quote from: ildanach on February 25, 2008, 05:20:00 PM
Just heard on the radio.Eduardo will hopefully be back in 9 months. He fractured his left fibula and dislocated his ankle.

Arsenal are saying a year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: thebandit on February 25, 2008, 05:28:00 PM
I had much the same injury, without severing the foot!

Haven't been able to string 3 training sessions in a row together since....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 29, 2008, 02:02:09 PM
Just at the right time too! Its a pity he won't be fit for milan though

Robin van Persie came back to full training on Friday.

The Dutchman will not figure against Aston Villa or Milan but his return is welcome news after the loss of Eduardo for the season with a broken leg.

Van Persie has played only three games since late October because of injury. He has been out since early January because of a thigh problem. He was one of two players back on the field at the training ground on Friday.

"The news is good," said Wenger. "It is Robin's first time back in full training. He looks quite good but I won't rush him back because I have made that mistake before.

"The other one who is back is Johan Djourou but he is not in the squad tomorrow."

The only player returning for the game against Villa on Saturday is Abou Diaby. The full list of absentees is: Alex Song (knee), Tomas Rosicky (hamstring), Kolo Toure (calf), Johan Djourou (groin), Van Persie (thigh) and Emmanuel Eboue (suspended).


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 04, 2008, 08:30:00 PM
milan 0 arsenal 0
we need a goal for all the posession we have!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2008, 08:36:20 PM
Bastard ref has been bribed. See the Hleb incident?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 04, 2008, 08:39:41 PM
Joke. A free from the edge at the very least. How the hell do Italians get away with this shit. They get frees for next to nothing.
Very impressed by Arsenal, but they need a goal soon or them pricks will steal something. Fabregas deserves one.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2008, 08:40:01 PM
Adebayor shot (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1841156)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2008, 08:41:36 PM
Fabregas hits bar (http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=1841168)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 04, 2008, 08:43:03 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on March 04, 2008, 08:39:41 PM
Joke. A free from the edge at the very least. How the hell do Italians get away with this shit. They get frees for next to nothing.
Very impressed by Arsenal, but they need a goal soon or them pricks will steal something. Fabregas deserves one.
definate free, the ref was in a good position to give it. i am afraid though that we really needed a goal with that much position. earlier in the season that would have been straight in the top corner from cesc. luck just not with us in first half
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2008, 08:46:58 PM
I can see Walcott's rawness causing bother. Milan seemed to be tiring as the half progressed. Worryingly though Kaka is being given more room than last time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 04, 2008, 08:51:22 PM
i grow to dislike senderos more and more each day
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2008, 09:03:30 PM
Quote from: ildanach on March 04, 2008, 08:51:22 PM
i grow to dislike senderos more and more each day

Was talking to a fella who told me a true story. A group of Limerick men were at the Emirates and after the game they were in the Arsenal shop inside the ground. He says Wenger walks in flanked by a few minders to do some kind of signing. The Shannonsiders approached him and shared pleasantries - 'you're a great manager Mr Wenger', 'we really admire you Mr Wenger' etc. Before they left one of them asked if he would answer one more question. Wenger replied 'of course' in his best French accent. Yer man asks ' Why the fcuk, Mr Wenger, do you keep on playin thon cnut Senderos?' He says Arsene and his minders just smirked.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 04, 2008, 09:12:48 PM
walcott about to be introduced. will he be the hero?????
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 04, 2008, 09:23:54 PM
we need another change. hleb to the wing and bring on van persie. if it goes to extra time we will lose
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 04, 2008, 09:27:04 PM
goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooallll!!!!!
get in there cesc
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2008, 09:29:30 PM
Yahoooooooooooooooo

The Joy of Cesc.

Houl out lads.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 04, 2008, 09:30:16 PM
Great Goal,Delighted for the gunners
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 04, 2008, 09:32:05 PM
100% deserved, especially Fabregas. Stood up and outshone Kaka. Wish Ronaldo would do it.
Hope that's the end of that Milan team, couldn't stand the sight of Inzaghi & Co for much longer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 04, 2008, 09:44:39 PM
great result. lets hope our season can kick on from here. Totally out played milan
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2008, 09:49:37 PM
This is the result Arsenal needed. Wenger's teams feed off confidence moreso than any other of the top sides who can grind out results.
First English side to defeat Milan in Italy?

Would swop it for the Carling Cup though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: superblues on March 04, 2008, 09:51:56 PM
great result for the gooners glad to see it don t like that milan  :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 04, 2008, 09:55:09 PM
Yip Arsenal the first English side to win away to Milan. More than deserved, Arsenal looked to be happy to shake off the pressure of th premiership tonight, and more than deserved their win. Fibreglass especially looked back to his pre-Christmas form, and a fine Walcott cameo.

A few things noted;

* Was there no segregation? Kept panning to shots of pockets of Goons celebrating among glum Milanese.
* Had the camera man a fetish with the AC crerst. He spent the last 5 minutes shooting close ups of Milan scarves, hats. Everything!
* The draw will be VERY interesting. It looks (Fingers crossed for Chelsea) that there will 4 Eng sides, and 3 from Spain. Everyone hoping to get Porto or Schalke then!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on March 04, 2008, 10:15:32 PM
Great result for Arsenal tonight and totally deserved.

Woudn't like to be the new milan coach next season, 3/4 of the team will have to go

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 05, 2008, 09:41:14 AM
I have to grudingly applaud the Goons, recovering from a potentially shattering 5-1 defeat by North London's most glamorous club only a few weeks ago, shows admirable mental strength.

However allowances must be made for the fact that the average age of Milan's defence is 153, and when Martin O'Neill and Alex Mc Leish can induce average teams to take points of the Goons in the league, I fear that last night may be the highlight of the season for the Goons.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2008, 09:48:10 AM
Yes, the same Martin O'Neill whose side went 4-1 up at Shite Hart Lane on Spuds' night of celebration? The same MArtin O'Neill whose side beat Spuds 2-1 at home? The same McLeish whose side beat Spuds 4-1 at the weekend? The same Birmingham who won 3-2 at Spuds?

Keep it coming Fatman.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 05, 2008, 09:51:06 AM
QuoteIt looks (Fingers crossed for Chelsea) that there will 4 Eng sides, and 3 from Spain. Everyone hoping to get Porto or Schalke then!

Whatever about Liverpool and Chelsea, there won't be three spanish sides anyway. Sevilla were beaten by Fenerbache.

Great result for the Arsenal last night, fair play to them. It's not easy to go and win in the San Siro. I hope Liverpool can emulate them next week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 05, 2008, 10:25:00 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 05, 2008, 09:51:06 AM
QuoteIt looks (Fingers crossed for Chelsea) that there will 4 Eng sides, and 3 from Spain. Everyone hoping to get Porto or Schalke then!

Whatever about Liverpool and Chelsea, there won't be three spanish sides anyway. Sevilla were beaten by Fenerbache.

Great result for the Arsenal last night, fair play to them. It's not easy to go and win in the San Siro. I hope Liverpool can emulate them next week.

Yip. I sent that pre the demise of Sevilla assuming they'd get through. Wrong again!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on March 05, 2008, 12:32:52 PM
Not often you see Gattuso and Pirlo completely overrun in midfield, though they were (badly) missing Seedorf - Man Utd. fell at this hurdle last year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 05, 2008, 01:48:45 PM
Did United not fall at the semi's?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on March 05, 2008, 01:53:14 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 05, 2008, 01:48:45 PM
Did United not fall at the semi's?

Correct. Remember we were all nervously anticipating a potential Liverpool v Man Utd champions league final? :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 05, 2008, 02:55:56 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 05, 2008, 01:48:45 PM
Did United not fall at the semi's?

Think he meant the hurdle being Milan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 05, 2008, 04:29:32 PM
Good review of the Italian reports of last night.

Paolo Bandini
guardian.co.uk

Milan - The End
 
Defeat to Arsenal saw Milan fail to reach the quarter-finals of the Champions League for the first time since the second group stage was abandoned in 2003-04, and the first time they have failed to reach the semi-finals since 2004-05. With Milan's starting XI boasting an average age of over 30 last night, and 39-year-old captain Paolo Maldini set to retire at the end of the season, it is unsurprising, perhaps, that the Italian press have greeted last night as the end of an era.

"Milan: The End", booms the front page headline - written in English - of today's Gazzetta dello Sport, while other papers have taken a similar tack. "[Milan manager Carlo] Ancelotti's era is over", insists a Corriere dello Sport headline, despite the fact the club's owner, Silvio Berlusconi, has insisted he plans to stick by his manager even if he fails to qualify for next year's Champions League. "End of the Road", concurs the Corriere della Sera.

Nevertheless, few writers have been particularly critical of Ancelotti's team - most preferring to reflect simply on a remarkable spell of European dominance. "Now that it is finished, before explaining why it is finished, let's have a round of applause for the exit of the champions of everything," says Gazzetta's Franco Arturi. "Milan deserves it. They carried for a long time a legend, founded on their play, class, and desire, around the world; they are one of the most successful Italian brands. They burned themselves out as they did so often, pushing themselves to the very edge of their limits. A serene end, if not a glorious one, to years spent in the very best way.

"Ancelotti knew he had a squad on its knees, one that had been bouncing for months between Wednesdays and Sundays to an unsustainable rhythm: the last high, the intercontinental cup won last winter, was paid for at the highest price possible, with an impossible calendar. To try to repeat the miracle achieved last year would have required a complete turnover of players between the championship and the [Champions League] - 10 players in and 10 players out each time. Milan's precarious position in the league wouldn't permit such a course of action."

To a man the Italian press corps seem in accordance that Arsenal fully deserved their victory, but nevertheless a few were left ruing the timing of Cesc Fábregas's opener. "I have to admit I allowed myself to be fooled in the last 20 minutes of the game, when the exhausted Milan drew out their very best, through sheer heart and positive thinking," says Gazzetta's senior writer and former editor Candido Cannavò. "Some members of the team called for the physio, but the flashes from Kaka and [Alexandre] Pato allowed one to keep dreaming."

Corriere della Sera's Mario Sconcerti agrees. "With the sort of irony that often accompanies goodbyes, Milan's run ended with the concession of a goal in their best moment of the match," he says. "Arsenal were no longer managing to hold on to the ball, [Arsenal striker Emmanuel] Adebayor, extraordinary atypical monument of modern football, had disappeared. Indeed, Fábregas had understood the slowness of his team and took the responsibility of going it alone. He got lucky, but neither he nor his team-mates stole anything. They dominated the game. In the first leg and the second."

Arsenal are lauded for their attacking intent, La Repubblica's Gianni Mura noting that: "Arsenal brought seven players looking to play the ball in Milan's half, while Milan for long periods were restricted to two: Pato and [Filippo] Inzaghi forward, sometimes supported by Kaka, and the rest a long way behind." Fábregas, meanwhile, comes in for special praise from Mura's colleague Andrea Sorrentino. "Here he is, the splendid midfielder who disappointed a little in the first leg. This time he was the master of the pitch, in front of the defence to shut down (well) Kaka, then indefatigable weaver of the play, often the furthest forward, avoiding Gattuso and Ambrosini's traps and even getting himself into positions from which to shoot."

Inevitably, however, the acknowledgement of the end of an era has also opened the discussion of how Milan can progress from here. "The elimination now opens the route to a remodernisation," says Sconcerti, "maybe even a real refounding. The last time, at the beginning of the 2000s, Ancelotti managed to find new solutions on the fly. He had a 23-year-old Pirlo, a 28-year-old Inzaghi, a 25-year-old Nesta. He had leaders as well as champions. This team now, however, is a decadent Milan that no longer has a firm point of reference. Kaka goes on his own, Pato is a kid and outside of any communal initiative. Pirlo follows but doesn't lead. I don't think it was by chance that their worst night arrived when they were missing the one truly charismatic player they have left - [Clarence] Seedorf."

The last word was saved for Maldini, for whom last night marked the sad end of a glorious European career in which he has picked up five European Cups across three decades. All of the major Italian dailies named him Milan's man of the match. "In London, Maldini had been 'magnificent' according to the English press," concludes Corriere della Sera's Paolo Tomaselli. "Yesterday Paolino was simply one of the best in Ancelotti's team. One of the last to give in to the evidence of a generational clash which Milan couldn't win."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 05, 2008, 04:53:33 PM
QuoteThink he meant the hurdle being Milan.

I know, but I'm in a fran mood.  Plus, I hate talking about the Milan games last year.  Circumstances were definitely in Arsenals favour last night. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on March 05, 2008, 07:09:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 04, 2008, 09:49:37 PM
This is the result Arsenal needed. Wenger's teams feed off confidence moreso than any other of the top sides who can grind out results.
First English side to defeat Milan in Italy?

Would swop it for the Carling Cup though.
Was going to congratulate the Gooners on their win, but I suppose some people have no class, having a snide swipe at Spurs, couldn't resist it ONeill could you?

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 04, 2008, 09:55:09 PM
* Was there no segregation? Kept panning to shots of pockets of Goons celebrating among glum Milanese.
I'd well believe that. Know a few who went to see Celtic there in the group stages and they were sitting amongst the Milan supporters. Strange when you consider all the trouble at Italian football games in recent times.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 05, 2008, 07:40:45 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 05, 2008, 04:53:33 PM
QuoteThink he meant the hurdle being Milan.

I know, but I'm in a fran mood.  Plus, I hate talking about the Milan games last year.  Circumstances were definitely in Arsenals favour last night. 

What circumstances would they be?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2008, 11:56:00 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on March 05, 2008, 07:09:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 04, 2008, 09:49:37 PM
This is the result Arsenal needed. Wenger's teams feed off confidence moreso than any other of the top sides who can grind out results.
First English side to defeat Milan in Italy?

Would swop it for the Carling Cup though.
Was going to congratulate the Gooners on their win, but I suppose some people have no class, having a snide swipe at Spurs, couldn't resist it ONeill could you?


Have you absolutely no knowledge of the Spurs/Arsenal friendly rivalry? If that annoys you, you'd be best supporting Barnet or the like. As for snide, no - completely open and above board. Finally, I'd say Arsenal fans the breadth of the country are seriously peeved you cannot congratulate us. Now, away with you before I annoy you further and resurrect the Totteringham thread.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2008, 07:31:07 PM
Disastrous result. With only 9 games left, it's looking like 9 wins, and that includes visits to Old Trafford and Stamford. Crap pitch is no excuse.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2008, 07:33:26 PM
Happy St Totteringham's Day by the way.........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 14, 2008, 01:45:57 PM
Very happy with that draw. Should turn them over. The only downside is the fixure list now:

Chelsea (A)
Bolton (A)
Liverpool (H)
Liverpool (H)
Liverpool (A)
Man Utd (A)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 14, 2008, 01:57:39 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 14, 2008, 01:45:57 PM
Very happy with that draw. Should turn them over. The only downside is the fixure list now:

Chelsea (A)
Bolton (A)
Liverpool (H)
Liverpool (H)
Liverpool (A)
Man Utd (A)

On current form?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 14, 2008, 02:01:22 PM
Remained unbeaten in big games and with the squad strengthening by the day I'm fairly confident.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 14, 2008, 02:03:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 14, 2008, 02:01:22 PM
Remained unbeaten in big games and with the squad strengthening by the day I'm fairly confident.

Drawing three crucial consecutive games you would have expected 9 points from is surely patchy form
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 14, 2008, 02:10:04 PM
Going to the San Siro and tanking the European Champions indicates what Arsenal can do in 'big' games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 14, 2008, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 14, 2008, 02:10:04 PM
Going to the San Siro and tanking the European Champions indicates what Arsenal can do in 'big' games.

If you're going for the title they are all 'big' games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 14, 2008, 02:17:53 PM
No, unfortunately for this side they fail to adhere to that. Was over at the Arsenal/Villa game and Arsenal played like a side with all eyes on the Milan game. They cantered through it. 3 days later and it was a completely different side that took to the field in the SS yet the same players. Then back to Wigan with half the side sleeping through the game.

I feel we're looking at a repeat of the 2006 final, with Henry on the losing side again, sending him around the bend.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 15, 2008, 07:28:12 PM
O'Neill you would have to admit youse have shit on the nest badly
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on March 15, 2008, 08:23:15 PM
Cannot see us winning the league now - we arent scoring and this is worrying goven the stage of the season - we have gave it away by squandering a 5 point lead.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 15, 2008, 08:49:44 PM
It's going to come down to the top 4 games, starting next Sunday. I expect Utd and Chelsea to win midweek. That'll leave Utd 3 ahead with Arsenal and Chelsea level. Then on Easter Sunday (families ruined) Liverpool to beat Utd and Arsenal/Chelsea draw.....or the former a draw and a winner in the latter....or....

As for today - if the linesman had called Adebayor's goal correctly, Arsenal would've been 1-0 up after 5 would have pished all over Boro. Luck hasn't been on their side lately. Going to be one hell of a next 4 weeks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 16, 2008, 08:39:38 PM
On the other hand - Utd and Chelsea both win on Wednesday and Sunday.....I'm digging a hole in the yard.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2008, 11:15:38 PM
Great result tonight. Win at Old Trafford in a few weeks like last year in the league and it's Arsenal's title. Utd won't beat Liverpool or Chelsea.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on March 19, 2008, 11:18:44 PM
Nurse!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on March 19, 2008, 11:20:56 PM
They will need to stop dropping points like the home draws with Villa and Boro though, even though two may have been gained with late goals. Still it may be that by holding Chelski tongiht, that Spurs did ye no harm tonight. :-\
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on March 19, 2008, 11:22:26 PM
I reckon Samson needs some hair extensions ,quickly. Arse to win the euro ties, and lose the league game in the middle
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 19, 2008, 11:30:26 PM
If the Mancs won on Sunday, Arsenal and Chelsea kick off 6 and 8 points behind. At that stage, it's a case of who is motivated enough to overcome that gap to eek a win in their game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 19, 2008, 11:31:00 PM
What odds two draws?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 20, 2008, 09:26:01 AM
Looks like another trophyless season for the Goons. I mean if you can't beat the likes of Birmingham and Boro, you cannot aspire to win the Premiership.Also the Goons are the worst of the four English sides (or shoud that be english based sides crammed full of foreign players) left in the Champions League and much as it would delight me to see the Arse lose a second final in three seasons I think it will all end on the banks of the mersey on April 8th
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 23, 2008, 08:15:10 PM
A real kick in the knackers that one. Chelsea just had too much experience all over the field, even though it was the long ball to Anelka/Drogba which did the damage. Both sides had periods of dominance. You could say 'only if' regarding the rash of injuries in the one minute before the equaliser but I still feel Arsenal weren't the better side.

The future - the three games v Liverpool will now dictate the reason. No one really to come back apart from Rosicky. Badly need a goal scorer on form.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 24, 2008, 01:50:54 PM

One thing that that has surprised me with the press and gooner supporters is how they've allowed wenger to get away with playing almunia over lehman, especially at this stage of the season. almunia is a rank bad keeper at this level who has cost arsenal a fair few points this season and sticking with him when you've a top class keeper sitting on the bench, for no other reason than personal ones, is mismanagement of the highest order. i know wenger can do no wrong in a lot of gooner eyes but its just one glaring example of poor decision making from wenger since christmas.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on March 24, 2008, 04:36:24 PM
Quote from: Declan on February 12, 2008, 09:55:34 AM
Enjoyed that game last night and thought Blackburn played really well. Arsenal are a joy to watch when they move the ball at pace. League is over

Still over Declan  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 24, 2008, 05:31:19 PM
Have to say that's complete bollocks Uladh. Wenger dropped Lehmann after some serious clangers,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/6931066.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/6941871.stm

at the very start of the season. Alumnia has come in and has rarely put a foot wrong. His performances in Europe have been mistake-free. In fact I can't remember any mistakes all year. Arsenal have only conceded 24 goals this season in 31 games.

Lehmann was well past his best-before date and had become a complete liability/laughing stock. Wenger played him in the cups this year - including the 4-0 at Old Trafford.

Wenger has blinkers OK when it comes to his style of play and the 'fruitiness' of his teams, but he has been spot on with the Jens decision.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on March 24, 2008, 05:53:58 PM
agree totally o'neill, jens is over the hill and almunia has done nothing wrong this season..made one unreal save down to his left against chelsea and was unlucky for the drogs second...definately made number 1 his own, our major problem is that we want to play beautiful football every game for 90mins, we need to learn to play bolton type football where we can hoof it up and get a few scrappy goals.

would love the dixon, keown, adams and winterburn back four again, no nonsense and no goals conceeded
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 24, 2008, 06:00:46 PM
Not a sniff.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Declan on March 25, 2008, 11:11:17 AM
QuoteStill over Declan  Wink

Sure is. Didn't think the Gooners would implode like they have in the last few games. It's their worst run of form in 9 years. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 25, 2008, 11:39:01 AM
Very disappointed with Arsenal, they really seem to have hit a wall, not enough squad dept and seriously need a centre-back ala Vidic or Carvalho who was immense on Sunday. Adebayor has been terrible the last month. Will struggle against Liverpool's long ball game and I can see the season ending on a damp squip...very demoralising
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 25, 2008, 11:49:25 AM
Arseblog


Four points from fifteen does not make champions

Chelsea 2-1 Arsenal

It's impossible to be anything other than bitterly disappointed this morning. A 2-1 defeat at Chelsea has probably killed off our title chances for this season and while defeat against them hurts it's our current form that's the most disturbing to me. Four points from the last fifteen is not the kind of run title winning teams go on.

The team looks tired and I think we're beginning to pay the price for having such a small squad. There's no chance to rest players, there's no real competition for positions and while I wouldn't dream of suggesting any of them have been taking things for granted that extra bit of pressure on you to perform when you know there's someone itching to get a chance really does make a difference.

For a while it looked positive. The first half was pretty even I thought. There were a couple of chances, Gallas, a couple of van Persie shots and a goalmouth scramble, while Chelsea had a great opportunity with Drogba but he fucked it up. It wasn't great football though from either side. In the second half we took the lead through Bacary Sagna's smart header from Cesc's corner. It was a great finish and I did think we had the ability to hang to it.

However, a couple of things happened which put us under pressure. The first was when Emmanuel Eboue was moving down the right, a Chelsea player lay 'injured' and the crowd were beginning to call for him to put the ball out. Eboue, who wants to be everyone's friend it seems, did just that when he should have just played on and waited for the ref to stop play. This bollocks convention is creeping back into the game and frankly it's down to managers to make sure their players don't do it. If the ref stops the play then fine, otherwise play on. Then John Terry, great sportsman that he is, instead of giving the ball back to us kicked it down towards our corner flag then Chelsea attacked the throw-in. Poxy stuff, and what a great example the England captain set there. w**ker.

Cesc ...From that moment we found ourselves under pressure and Bacary Sagna injured his ankle clearing a ball. Not to be outdone Eboue had to pretend to be injured too and when Kolo needed treatment we found ourselves with just 8 players on the pitch at one stage as Chelsea had a throw in. Sagna went off, Eboue to right back, and we just lost our shape from then on. Both Drogba and Anelka were offside when the pass was played forward but Gallas completely missed the header and when the ball fell to Drogba on the edge of the box he lashed it home to equalise. To my mind that all came about from Chelsea's unsportsmanlike behaviour. I'm not saying they wouldn't have scored in the game, because they had players capable of it and had been putting us under pressure, but that sequence of play came about from that.

The second came when Gallas was beaten in the air again, this time by Nicolas Anelka (hardly renowned as an aerial threat). He flicked on, Kolo kicked air and the ball fell to Drogba. His shot into the ground might have Almunia thinking he could have done better but I think the keeper got caught out by the bounce. Drogba was denied a hat-trick just minutes later when Almunia made a great stop at the near post after that **** Beletti had opened us up down the right hand side.

We threw on Theo who, to my mind at least, seemed to be ignored by his teammates. At least twice I saw Hleb look up and see him in space on the right only to turn back infield and try the impossible pass. I know he didn't do much with it the one time he did get it but I didn't like what I saw there. Bendtner came on but it was too little, too late - and Chelsea's bench showing where the sportsmanship comes from in the club by holding onto the ball when we had a throw sums up everything about that despicable club. The same fans who were chanting 'You don't know what you're doing' to their manager were the ones cheering loudest at the end. c***ts. Three vital points lost and it leaves us with plenty to discuss.

I don't really want to go too far down the road of criticising inviduals because as a whole the team is not playing well. But when that happens you need your big players to take on that bit of extra responsibility and make something happen. We seem to have regressed into the frustrating Arsenal of last season, everything through the middle, no width, and always looking for the eye of the needle pass. We know how good it is when it comes off but when it doesn't come off you have to be able to try something different. Get wide, get crosses in, something.

The bottom line though is that we're lacking personnel. I don't understand how Arsene thinks Emmanuel Eboue is good enough to play on a regular basis for this Arsenal team. He is a joke of a footballer, rubbish again yesterday and one cross aside has contributed nothing to what this side has achieved this season. No goals, just that one assist, and this is from the right hand side of midfield - where if you really want to win the title you need players who can contribute something. Anything! He was also lucky not to be sent off yesterday, if Clattenburg had seen his deliberate handball he'd have been off. He's a liability. Give Theo a run in the team on the right hand side now. I just can't understand why Arsene persists with him. I really can't.

We have players off the boil too. Adebayor is struggling but he made an outstanding contribution to this season already - and you have to say he's not really getting the same kind of service at the moment. Alex Hleb when on song is a fine player. Alex Hleb when not on song is a hindrance. He slows things down, always looks for a difficult pass, never shoots and overall, on song or not, doesn't produce enough in terms of goals or assists for a player of his ability and responsibility. He probably does need a rest but we can't give him one. That's not his fault, that's down the manager for not augmenting the wide areas like he should have done in either the summer or the January transfer window, but he's got to give us more than he's giving at the moment.

I'd also question why van Persie, a striker, was played left so Hleb could play behind Adebayor. If Hleb was in sparkling form that'd be something but he's not producing at the moment and van Persie's effectiveness is lessened with him out there. Play your best striker as a striker. Makes sense to me. Hopefully the time on the pitch will do Robin good because it's fairly obvious he's finding his touch again after so long out. There were a couple of moments where I think a fully sharp RVP would have caused some serious damage to Chelsea yesterday.

At the back I don't really understand why the Gallas - Senderos partnership was broken up. I know Kolo has been a big player but this has not been his finest season and I've always maintained that he and Gallas are too similar. I lost count of how many times they simply stood off Drogba, not challenging him in the air, and let him take the ball down as easy as you like. Hopefully the runaround Drogba gave both Toure and Gallas might dispel the myth that it's only Senderos that has ever found Drogba difficult to play against. Drogba's scoring record in the last couple of seasons suggests that pretty much every defender in the league has found him hard going. We needed somebody to challenge for headers yesterday and neither Kolo or Gallas did. I'd drop Kolo and bring Senderos back - or if Sagna is out for a while I'd consider moving Kolo to right back, especially if it means Eboue doesn't play. You've got to pick a team on merit, not reputation, and Senderos did not deserve to get dropped.

Afterwards Arsene Wenger was critical of the defence, saying:

    It is a big setback for us when you add the four games we drew and today's loss. Now we just have to come back and win games before we dream of the title. We needed a bit more defensive authority as the game was there to be taken. We had plenty of chances on the counter-attack when they went 4-4-2. It was just a matter of time to score the second goal. We were not serene enough defensively.

I don't know that you need to be defensively 'serene'. Solid, would be good. More committed would also be fine. You need your experienced centre-halves to not kick fresh air. Of course it's a team thing, defending from the front and all that, but the fact is we're still prone to conceding sloppy goals and it's costing us.

Anyway, like I said there's plenty to discuss and everybody has their opinion. On the other hand though, before everyone gets too downhearted, there's still a lot of football to play this season. If by some miracle we do find our form again we still have a chance in this league. A win at Old Trafford would cut the gap to 3, and we just need United to slip up once more (remember they have to play Chelsea as well) and it's all open again. I know it's unlikely but it's not impossible. And that's saying nothing about the Champions League. So, while it's perfectly normal to be pissed off and upset and angry about yesterday let's not start wallowing in it. The fat lady might be warming up but she hasn't sung yet. We've got to find our form again though, and quickly.

So, with Steve Bennet doing his best to make life easy for Demento at Old Trafford (Mascherano's sending off was quite disgraceful, as was the yellow card Torres got for being kicked in the back of legs three times) it's been a good weekend for United. And it seems like way too long since we had a good weekend ourselves.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on March 27, 2008, 12:26:42 PM
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=dvn8HYp_RD0&feature=related
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 27, 2008, 01:12:19 PM

Poor management from arsene:

appointing gallas as captain. unbelievable. toure's form has dipped this season having been inexplicably overlooked.
perserveing with almunia in goal despite him being adequate at best (second goal on sunday just the latest example of not making anything above functional saves - If wenger was not sure about Lehman he should have bought in january.
not purchasing a centre back with physical presence in january. despite losing toure to ACN wenger was more concerned with protecting his reputation of not spending big in the transfer market. he seems to be intent on playing footballers at centre half, hence their inability to deal with Drogba, etc.
refusal to take "stars" out of the firing line when in a rut of bad form. wenger's poilicy over the last 6 weeks when Adebayor and cesc hit periods of very poor form has been to close his eyes and cross his fingers.
He has introduced no width to his teams. teams block the centre and arsenal have no answer. there isn't a single player in the squad who can beat a man on the outside and provide the crosses adebayor is crying out for.
wenger has consistently given his players excuses for poor performances. "no protection from the ref", "still traumatised over the eduardo incident", etc in the vital stages of the season. squeaky bum time is for strength of charachter and mental resolve, which wenger's teams patently lack.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 28, 2008, 05:30:48 PM
Arsène Wenger has hinted that he may rest Emmanuel Adebayor for the trip to Bolton on Saturday.

The Togolese striker has been the mainstay of the Arsenal attack this season. He has featured in 29 of his side's 31 Premier League games this term scoring 19 goals in the process. However he has hit the net only once in his last eight appearances in all competitions. It came in the solitary win of that sequence - the 2-0 win in Milan. Otherwise the 24-year-old's difficult spell has coincided with the struggles of his side. With three games against Liverpool then another at Manchester United on the horizon, it is no surprise that Wenger was suggesting he might rotate Adebayor this weekend.

"I believe he has given a lot this year and so he would need a little breather, maybe," said the manager. "He has played a lot on his own up front and has had to fight very hard. So at the moment, to refresh him a bit would do him some good.

"He has not scored recently but then, as a team, we have made less chances. Also physically he was a bit jaded because he has played in nearly every single game since the start of the season.

"He is an important player in our squad. But I have Bendtner there and I have van Persie coming back."


He has looked tired alright for a few weeks now. I thought he was very well marshalled at chelsea. Hopefully bentner will take his chance now.. we need goals!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 28, 2008, 07:53:25 PM
appointing gallas as captain. unbelievable. toure's form has dipped this season having been inexplicably overlooked.

Bollocks. Toure's form dipped since his injury at the ACN. As Arsene says, when Arsenal were riding high a couple of month's ago Gallas was the bees' knees in the eyes of all and sundry. I'd have Gallas a million times as captain material.

perserveing with almunia in goal despite him being adequate at best (second goal on sunday just the latest example of not making anything above functional saves - If wenger was not sure about Lehman he should have bought in january.

Already covered. Almunia has been solid all year.

not purchasing a centre back with physical presence in january. despite losing toure to ACN wenger was more concerned with protecting his reputation of not spending big in the transfer market. he seems to be intent on playing footballers at centre half, hence their inability to deal with Drogba, etc.

Yes, it's Arsene's philosophy and we're stuck with it. When it works it is fantastic but will come a-cropper at times. The first signs were when Adams, Bould and Keown starting playing the ball on the ground between themselves - twas heart in the mouth stuff but we got used to it. Arsene recently stated that winning trophies wasn't the be-all-and-end-all for him - it was winning through beautiful football as he sees it and if they don't win, at least they played the way he wanted to. Again, as Arsenal fans we're stuck with that.

refusal to take "stars" out of the firing line when in a rut of bad form. wenger's poilicy over the last 6 weeks when Adebayor and cesc hit periods of very poor form has been to close his eyes and cross his fingers.

In the past Arsene has rested players regularly. Henry, Vieira, Campbell etc all had free weekends in the past. However, this year the fringe players are mightily young and not ready to sustain a title challenge. I think his starting team matured 1-2 years early in terms of challenging for a title and has surprised everyone connected to the club.

He has introduced no width to his teams. teams block the centre and arsenal have no answer. there isn't a single player in the squad who can beat a man on the outside and provide the crosses adebayor is crying out for.

Arsene has never played that way. Even in 1998 and 2002/04 with Overmars, Pires and Ljungberg he made his wingers play through the middle. That's just Wenger's way of doing it. In fact this year has been the first he has veered towards the less innovative system you are indicating, with Walcott and Eboue both sporadically hugging the touchline. As for Adebayor crying out for crosses, have you not watched him play? Apart from one game when he scored two headers, he almost shirks aerial contact. His ground play is much more impressive.


wenger has consistently given his players excuses for poor performances. "no protection from the ref", "still traumatised over the eduardo incident", etc in the vital stages of the season. squeaky bum time is for strength of charachter and mental resolve, which wenger's teams patently lack.



Wenger had lifted two doubles plus another title in which he went the whole season unbeaten, and beyond. For any side to manage that they need serious mental strength and character. Add to that the panache with which they achieved it. He has also won something like 4-5 FA Cups, reached the UEFA and CL finals. His sides have set records in almost all competitions in recent years.

Now, all Arsenal fans know we'll never be a Liverpool or Man Utd. We (I know that's frowned upon here) will never be a massive club which almost demands success no matter how it is obtained. Utd fans will be happy with Fergie nicking the talent off his nearest rivals or the cream of the rest in his division (Cantona, Rooney, Yorke, Cole, Keane, Ferdinand, Carrick, Saha, Tevez...the list is endless) and that's their prerogative as they demand success. Arsenal have always done it the Arsenal way and unlike every other club, have won titles in almost every decade, the 30s, 40s, 50s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s but will never dominate for a concerted period of time. Under Wenger, the Arsenal way has been to nurture talent or spot the diamond in the rough, gel them and challenge regularly. We accept he'll never go berserk in the market in order to achieve silverware. He'll do it his way. And despite the occasional frustration, we love the club and the man for it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 29, 2008, 10:39:54 AM
you actually only disagree with 3 of my 6 points (that was easier than i expected!). i'm a little confused why you can just accept avoidable failings such as not strenghtening the squad, over loyalty and stubborn persistence with a failing style of play. anyway...

Quote from: ONeill on March 28, 2008, 07:53:25 PM
appointing gallas as captain. unbelievable. toure's form has dipped this season having been inexplicably overlooked.

Bollocks. Toure's form dipped since his injury at the ACN. As Arsene says, when Arsenal were riding high a couple of month's ago Gallas was the bees' knees in the eyes of all and sundry. I'd have Gallas a million times as captain material.

Gallas was always a terrible choice for captain. Gilberto has been ostracised for his public disgruntlement over the choice (to the detrement of arsenal's title aspirations) and his strops and disloyalty at chelsea should have been warning enough about the strength of the man's character. gallas' public criticisms of teammates recently are unbelievable from the captain of a team at the sharp end of a crumbling title challenge.

Quote from: ONeill on March 28, 2008, 07:53:25 PM
perserveing with almunia in goal despite him being adequate at best (second goal on sunday just the latest example of not making anything above functional saves - If wenger was not sure about Lehman he should have bought in january.

Already covered. Almunia has been solid all year.

He has been far from solid unless arsenal are winning. almunia is one of the worst pressure game performers ive seen in a long time. when arsenal go one down he gets more like grobalaar with every passing minute. but lets say he has been solid. he is still not amongs the best 1o keepers in the division, which is unforgivable for a manager with title aspirations. How much would Friedel or James have cost in january? less than £2m.


Quote from: ONeill on March 28, 2008, 07:53:25 PM
wenger has consistently given his players excuses for poor performances. "no protection from the ref", "still traumatised over the eduardo incident", etc in the vital stages of the season. squeaky bum time is for strength of charachter and mental resolve, which wenger's teams patently lack.


Wenger had lifted two doubles plus another title in which he went the whole season unbeaten, and beyond. For any side to manage that they need serious mental strength and character. Add to that the panache with which they achieved it. He has also won something like 4-5 FA Cups, reached the UEFA and CL finals. His sides have set records in almost all competitions in recent years.

there has been no middle in wenger's teams since the departure of the players with that quality whom he inherited. wenger would never sign an adams or keown. they have consistently faild to convert from winning positions in recent seasons. how many years trophyless now? the only player who could have improved arsenal in this respect, gilberto, has been standing in the bold corner for 6 months.

this story that is spun about wenge never spending money doesn't wash. he has recently spent big money on walcott, eduardo, hleb, gallas and rosicky. i will give him his dues though... his policy of sending his scouts to watch the academy teams of the major european clubs rather than to scout players themselves was a masterstroke. tribunal fees or cut price fees for academy contracted players is the cheaper option by far.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 29, 2008, 12:18:52 PM
Quote from: Uladh on March 29, 2008, 10:39:54 AM
Gallas was always a terrible choice for captain. Gilberto has been ostracised for his public disgruntlement over the choice (to the detrement of arsenal's title aspirations) and his strops and disloyalty at chelsea should have been warning enough about the strength of the man's character. gallas' public criticisms of teammates recently are unbelievable from the captain of a team at the sharp end of a crumbling title challenge.


there would not have been any point making gilberto captain considering he is not getting a game. Toure has been away on african cup duty with ivory coast so how would he have captained when he was not there. That left gallas as the choice of captain.
Now i am not his biggest fan as captain. He is a good centre back and indeed a versatile player as he can play in a either full back position too, but he does seem to have a tendency to be distant from other players and imho is not the best motivator ala adams and viera. But at the time he was the best available to be captain. Someone who has already won a championship and has premier league experience.over time we will see cesc, denilson & maybe diaby develop the traits necessary to be a great captain.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on March 29, 2008, 12:27:26 PM
thats better ildanach you weren't the same with your avatar missing
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 29, 2008, 03:39:11 PM
Diabby (31) sent off for a very dangerous tackle. Will be interesting to see to see if Wenger seen the incident!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 29, 2008, 03:57:51 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 29, 2008, 03:39:11 PM
Diabby (31) sent off for a very dangerous tackle. Will be interesting to see to see if Wenger seen the incident!

I wonder will Diaby be allowed to play football again?

2-0 to Notlob....the Goons implosion continues.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on March 29, 2008, 04:14:27 PM
Arsenal have imploded ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 29, 2008, 04:25:47 PM
Billy G 2-1 now............
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 29, 2008, 04:29:38 PM
they have a pen

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 29, 2008, 04:30:01 PM
2-2
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 29, 2008, 04:33:09 PM
Could the Gunners, restart their title challenge with another goal while possibly further securing the relegation of their Nemisis Bolton?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 29, 2008, 04:59:39 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 29, 2008, 04:33:09 PM
Could the Gunners, restart their title challenge with another goal while possibly further securing the relegation of their Nemisis Bolton?

Mission accomplished!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on March 29, 2008, 07:40:55 PM
I think Bolton are down alright given the other results today, not so sure about arsenals title challenge though, six points behind with six games to go.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 29, 2008, 08:30:09 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 29, 2008, 03:39:11 PM
Diabby (31) sent off for a very dangerous tackle. Will be interesting to see to see if Wenger seen the incident!

Shock horror Wenger sees "A protective Tackle" ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 31, 2008, 01:42:18 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 29, 2008, 08:30:09 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 29, 2008, 03:39:11 PM
Diabby (31) sent off for a very dangerous tackle. Will be interesting to see to see if Wenger seen the incident!

Shock horror Wenger sees "A protective Tackle" ;)

from arsenal.com
Arsène Wenger admits that Abou Diaby deserved his red card at Bolton on Saturday but dismissed comparisons with the tackle which left Eduardo with a broken leg and a dislocated ankle.

Diaby was sent off after sliding in and catching Gretar Steinsson with his studs raised at the Reebok Stadium. The Frenchman's dismissal left Arsenal a man down as well as a goal down but Wenger had no complaints.

However, the Arsenal manager insisted that Diaby's tackle was not as bad as Martin Taylor's challenge on Eduardo at Birmingham last month or indeed the lunge by Sunderland's Dan Smith which sidelined Diaby for nine months in May 2006.

"I knew the injury [to Steinsson] was not bad," said Wenger after Arsenal's 3-2 win at Bolton.

"Diaby certainly hit him but it was not comparable with what happened [to Eduardo] a few weeks ago. Diaby's tackle was a fraction high but as long the foot is off the ground you cannot complain.
"Diaby was injured and out for nine months but that tackle [from Smith] was very bad. It was malicious. Diaby's tackle was not malicious but your intention does not count. It is where your foot is that counts."


i think this shows wenger is not complaining about the sending off
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Old Bill on March 31, 2008, 03:46:49 PM
PROB THE FIRST TIME THAT WENGER HAS ACTUALLY SEEN A MAJOR INCIDENT INVOLVING ONE OF HIS PLAYERS!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 31, 2008, 03:48:11 PM
Caps lock stuck? :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Old Bill on March 31, 2008, 03:53:25 PM
No, it was just to emphasise the point!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 31, 2008, 04:31:43 PM
aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 31, 2008, 04:34:14 PM
Relax Dinny. It's all good :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 31, 2008, 05:08:36 PM
Quote from: Old Bill on March 31, 2008, 03:46:49 PM
PROB THE FIRST TIME THAT WENGER HAS ACTUALLY SEEN A MAJOR INCIDENT INVOLVING ONE OF HIS PLAYERS!
sure it was right in front of the dug out- how could he miss it ;D
Alot of the other incidents that he doesn't see happen either end of the field  :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2008, 11:38:35 PM
Gallas was always a terrible choice for captain. Gilberto has been ostracised for his public disgruntlement over the choice (to the detrement of arsenal's title aspirations) and his strops and disloyalty at chelsea should have been warning enough about the strength of the man's character. gallas' public criticisms of teammates recently are unbelievable from the captain of a team at the sharp end of a crumbling title challenge.

Gilberto? I can only assume you haven't really been following Arsenal all that closely. Arsene saw in the Brazilian what he noticed in Vieira, Henry, Pires etc - his time was done. Gilberto was living on borrowed time towards the end of last season despite his goal tally from penalties. His passing and tackling this year was of a man in serious decline and the invisible wall has now completely disappeared. Wenger brought him on recently for a decent spell in a game. His first pass was straight to the opposition. His second was a glorious through ball to no one. He'll not be here come August. Gilberto, like Lehmann, had become a liability. Gallas is a motivator who plays with his heart on his sleeve. He has scored against Chelsea and Utd this year and leads the side by example. Forget the Birmingham incident. In my book that showed how much he cared. Gallas has not publically criticised his teammates so don't fall into the trap of tabloid sensationalism. He made honest remarks about Walcott, more encouraging than anything.


He has been far from solid unless arsenal are winning. almunia is one of the worst pressure game performers ive seen in a long time. when arsenal go one down he gets more like grobalaar with every passing minute. but lets say he has been solid. he is still not amongs the best 1o keepers in the division, which is unforgivable for a manager with title aspirations. How much would Friedel or James have cost in january? less than £2m.

Almunia is a top-class shot stopper. Read the stats (or watch the games). Most of Arsenal goals against this year have been defensive errors.

there has been no middle in wenger's teams since the departure of the players with that quality whom he inherited. wenger would never sign an adams or keown. they have consistently faild to convert from winning positions in recent seasons. how many years trophyless now? the only player who could have improved arsenal in this respect, gilberto, has been standing in the bold corner for 6 months.

Wenger did not inherit Vieira, Gilberto, Campbell, Toure, Flamini etc.
You don't seem to grasp what Arsene and his side have done this season. We expected nothing due to the loss of quite a few of the Invincibles recently. However, he led the league for yonks, progressed to the QF of the champions' league and is still challenging on both fronts. This is not bad for a side with no middle. As for Gilberto again, you must be joking.

this story that is spun about wenge never spending money doesn't wash. he has recently spent big money on walcott, eduardo, hleb, gallas and rosicky..

If you want to, list the starting teams this weekend. List how much they cost. Arsenal would trail Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs and I wouldn't be surprised if one or two more sides were more expensive to assemble.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2008, 12:26:32 AM
Any thoughts on the line-out?

I'd be thinking along the lines of:

Eboue - Toure - Gallas - Clichy
Walcott - Flamini - Fabregas - Hleb
         RVP
         Adebayor.

The debate seems to be do Arsenal go Toure - Senderos - Gallas - Clichy as they did v Bolton. I don't think Arsene needs 3 central defenders on Torres. If he did, Eboue would probably offer defensive cover instead of Walcott. I'd expect Flamini to disrupt Gerrard but for Cesc to receive the same treatment from the Argie or Alonso. That'll allow Hleb to strut his stuff. Babel v Eboue and Kuyt v Clichy. Babel and Kuyt have a tendancy to play narrow so I can see Clicy and Eboue bombing up both wings - they're fit and fast enough to recover.

Hope that if Eboue starts, Gallas and Toure have a word with him to stay on the field for 90 mins. Adebaypr up front needs to run the Liverpool defence (aged?) ragged as he did Milan. Not confident of him netting. Van Persie could hold the key. He has been getting into scoring positions lately but needs to bring his accuracy to the game tomorrow.

Looking forward to watching Wenger v Benitez - in some respects (well, all) Benitez is the master at this comp.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 02, 2008, 11:13:36 AM
I really hope Senderos doesn't play, he wouldn't play him would he?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 02, 2008, 11:36:56 AM
I think Van Persie is the ace in the hole for Arsenal tonight, and over the whole tie. I think Liverpool will try and soak up Arsenal pressure, and hit them on the break with Torres, Gerrard and Babel breaking with pace. I think that's a mistake, because I really feel Liverpool need a goal, as I have to assume Arsenal will score 1 at least at Anfield. I admire Arsenal for their philosphy to the game, and they would be great Champions of Europe, I just hope it's not this season, because that will mean they've knocked Liverpool out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: corn02 on April 02, 2008, 12:22:39 PM
2-1 to Arsenal would be a good result for Liverpool.

If Arsenal score within 15 minutes, they could easily hit the net three times.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on April 02, 2008, 12:29:37 PM
I had a premunition that Arsenal would win 3-0 tonight..

So i just put £4 on 3-0 @ 20/1 and £1 on Arsenal 3-0 and Fabregas to score first@ 135/1..

Fingers Crossed.....

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on April 02, 2008, 04:12:45 PM
I hope you're right O'Neil but I fear it might be

Toure - Gallas - Senderos - Clichy
Eboue - Flamini - Fabregas - Hleb
       RVP - Adebayor
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 02, 2008, 05:17:55 PM
I think he will go with

Eboue - Gallas - Toure - Clichy
Diaby - Flamini - Fabregas - Hleb
       RVP - Adebayor

i have a feeling we will win, i really hope we keep a clean sheet.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 02, 2008, 05:21:14 PM
hope send-him-home doesnt play cos he's slow as a funeral and torres will leave him for dead..toure and gallas have to play at centre back. van the man is going to be key to arsenal tonight and i hope theo gets a run down the right cos he could expose the liverpool lack of pace at the back. 2-0 to the arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2008, 07:00:32 PM
Senderos starts.

My monthly emoticon -  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 02, 2008, 07:43:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 02, 2008, 07:00:32 PM
Senderos starts.

My monthly emoticon -  :o

he is going to prove us all wrong and score!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 02, 2008, 10:34:32 PM
frustrating night for the arsenal..had most of the play for the whole of game but couldnt capitalise on it. hleb was terrible and proved he is not up to the level we need, rosicky is twice the player and is badly missed. thought gallas was brilliant and senderos makes me have heart in mouth every time he touches the ball. stone wall penalty turned down, i dunno what the ref was thinking. 1 all goin to anfield is ok but the away goal could do us bigtime! up the arse
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2008, 11:02:06 PM
Pleased enough. Arsenal need something to fight for in games and this offers it to them. I think you're being a bit harsh on Hleb. He hadn't much luck tonight but he's the only one playing the way the team did 5 months ago.

I can see a 3-1 win at Anfield.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 02, 2008, 11:13:07 PM
yeah bein harsh but he has to keep the ball and stop giving it away too easy..after the penalty appeal he seemed to lose the plot completely, walcott looked lively but doesnt take man on enough with his pace...gallas is a class act! i wil be happy with a 1-0 victory at anfield nxt wk but can see it being 2-1 to the arse
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 02, 2008, 11:23:08 PM
QuotePleased enough. Arsenal need something to fight for in games and this offers it to them. I think you're being a bit harsh on Hleb. He hadn't much luck tonight but he's the only one playing the way the team did 5 months ago.

I can see a 3-1 win at Anfield.

Agree with that, much the better side but i think this quarter-final will head to penalties......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 02, 2008, 11:25:52 PM
Quote from: hitzelsperger on April 02, 2008, 11:13:07 PM
yeah bein harsh but he has to keep the ball and stop giving it away too easy..after the penalty appeal he seemed to lose the plot completely, walcott looked lively but doesnt take man on enough with his pace...gallas is a class act! i wil be happy with a 1-0 victory at anfield nxt wk but can see it being 2-1 to the arse

Would not be so confident, Arsenal have been struggling of late,

Milan D 0-0
Milan W 0-2

Manchester United L 0-4
Birmingham City D 2-2
Aston Villa D 1-1
Wigan Athletic D 0-0
Middlesbrough D 1-1
Chelsea L 1-2
Bolton Wanderers W 3-2

Bar the result v (mid-table Italy) Milan and v Bolton who will be relegated Arsenal have collapsed.

I am not saying they are not up to the Liverpool Challenge, it's just they are volitile at the moment and Liverpool are cute in Europe!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2008, 11:31:05 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/sport/football/video/163000/bb/163358_16x9_bb.asx
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2008, 11:39:47 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/sport/football/video/163000/bb/163357_16x9_bb.asx
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2008, 11:44:02 PM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44535000/jpg/_44535101_rafa_getty.jpg)
Constipation

(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44535000/jpg/_44535132_hleb_getty.jpg)

Romeo, Romeo.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 02, 2008, 11:57:24 PM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44535000/jpg/_44535101_rafa_getty.jpg)

I suppose that is how you look holding onto a 1-1 away result!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 03, 2008, 08:56:25 AM
Arra sure, all Arsenal have to do is to pretend that they're Man Utd when playing against Benitez's Liverpool. Should do the job then! ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 03, 2008, 09:36:31 AM
Well lads, I don't know whether to say well done, or hard luck to ye. The tie is still alive, very much so, but ye were very unlucky not to win last night. For what it's worth (not a lot i suspect), this is my post on the Liverpool thread.

*****************88

Funny old game last night. 1-1 is a result I'd be happy enough with, because if Arsenal score at Anfield, which I'm convinced they will do, at least Liverpool won't have a mountain to climb. Last night specifically, I thought Arsenal were very good for about 60 minutes. There was a spell after Arsenal scored (similar to the Chelsea game actually) where Liverpool were dominant, and the goal came quickly in that spell. Arsenal weathered the storm though, and should have scored at least one more (I thought it was a stonewall penalty), but they didn't and that might come back to haunt them. I was actually disappointed that Rafa took off Torres, even though he was poor last night, he looked tired and flat footed. I'd definitely rest him for Saturday and give big crouchy a chance to batter away at them. The reason I was disappointed was because I knew Arsenal would tire in the last 5 or 10 minutes, and bringing on Voronin was the equivalent of just filling a jersey. If Torres, or indeed Babel was up front on his own in the last 5 minutes when Arsenal did get tired and started being really sloppy at the back with passing and clearences, I think Liverpool would have gotten another chance, and that could be just as pivotal as Arsenal not scoring in the second half.

For Liverpool, I thought Reina was dodgy enough under crosses again, especially set pieces. He needs to do some work on that at traiining to make him more confident again, but Adebeyor's goal was fantastic in it's simplicity. It looked way too easy from a Liverpool standpoint, but to give credit where it's due Wenger obviously devised this to exploit the zonal marking. Standing on the line, great movement into the unmarked space and a pinpoint cross. Excellent stuff.

The back four looked solid enough, and buttressed by Mascherano and Alonso/Lucas from the front, they kept Arsenal largely going across in front of them, which would have been the game plan. Hleb's break for the penalty and Walcott's run were the only real times they got around the back of Liverpool, and all the other Arsenal passes through the channels had to be overhit to make it through, which meant they normally ran out of play or into Reina. Having said that Flamini's excellent ball to van Persie in the first half deserved better. Mascherano was a bit uncomfortable when Arsenal passed the ball around him, he loves being able to bite into people who are receiving the ball and dallying on it. Fabergas, when he was going well, wasn't doing that but Mascherano still perservered and got in a few good interceptions, and cleaned up a lot of 'second ball' that came out of the defence into that 'hole' area. Alonso was poor enough again, and will want to forget this season. I hope he stays at Anfield, because we need a player like him in that 4-2-3-1 formation but it's just not happening for him this season.

The attacking midfield trio were a mixed bag. I thought Gerrard was excellent for the 15 minutes when Liverpool got on top in the first half, and was constantly looking for the ball and even though his influence waned as Arsenal reasserted, he was always the out ball for Liverpool, and didn't give it away stupidly. Babel was disappointing, but I do think he will improve and is a long term bet. Kuyt worked hard and deserved his goal for workrate, but I can't help feeling he's a bit, well, thick. His first touch is shocking, and he does some awful stupid things. He can count himself a lucky man this morning that he wasn't apologising for a penalty incident.

Torres, as I mentioned, was disappointing last night, and looked tired to me. He was caught flatfooted a lot of the time when passes cam towards him, and while Gallas and Toure are quick, there were a couple of occasions when, had he been at his sharpest, he would have gotten away. I'd rest him on Saturday. As someone else said, he needs to knock that diving shit on the head too. There's no need for it. I don't know if he feels he has been kicked a lot this season or something, and has decided to go down in contact, but it does him no favours and is rotten to look at.

All in all, satisfactory result, but this tie is far, far from over. It'll be a big test on Tuesday night, but likewise Arsenal will probably not be prepared for the atmosphere at Anfield that night. They've obviously played there loads of times in the league, but this will be a bit different. I expect Liverpool to be cagey, Arsenal to dominate possession again, Liverpool to score from a break or a set piece, and Arsenal to press for an equaliser. If they get it, we could be on for a shoot out, depending on when it comes. If it goes to extra time, I would fancy Liverpool, because I think Arsenal are stretched physically at the moment. It'll be edgy stuff though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on April 03, 2008, 10:29:17 AM
I watched the Fans Forum late last night on Arsenal TV - the main phone in was the conspiracy theory that the referee last night lives five miles from where Kuyt grew up and where his family still reside! Surely this is wrong and Uefa should know these facts - and remember the stonewall well wasnt it good old Dirk who pulled Hleb back 5 yards from the ref......

All is not lost although all the talk of Liverpool getting the best result of the night doesnt faze me at all..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2008, 12:22:26 PM
Was very disappointed Wenger started Senderos last night, even tough he didn't do much wrong. Walcott is playing his best football of the year right now and to sacrifice him for the more defensive Eboue was too conservative for this game. Why did Arsenal need Toure, Senderos, Gallas and Eboue as well as Clichy when facing a Liverpool who aren't exactly goal-merchants? Walcott, when he came on, tortured Carragher to the point that it was only a matter of time before the Liverpudlian was going to either give away a penalty or simply implode. Puzzlingly, Wenger moved Walcott in order to cater for Hleb's erratic form. Toure seemed slow to me throughout and Eboue limited.

Hleb had a bad night at the office. His passes were slightly off kilter and easily intercepted. He's still worth the 90 mins though - his run for the 'penalty' was majestic. However, you feel he needs Fabregas, Rosicky and Van Persie around him as they're the only players on the same wavelength. As the game wore on Fabregas was becoming more central as he was at Anfield in the league in the second half. There is a slight worry though that he is running out of steam this season. He's falling over the finishing line. Fair play to Kuyt though. He harassed Hleb and Cesc throughout and did a real 'Flamini' on them.

Up front it was frustrating to see Van Persie get the cotton wool treatment again. He's had a serious run of bad luck this season. He did look good in the first 25 mins though. Adebayor - didn't put himself about as much as I thought he would. In the San Siro he ran their centre backs ragged - another sign that perhaps a few of the players are in badly need of a breather Arsene can't afford to give them.

A major criticism of Arsenal yesterday for me was their attitude in the 2-3 minutes between the two goals. They had the chance to steady the ship and continue what they were doing. Instead, and I'd like to see it again, Arsenal tried to play 5-a-side, nutmegging, backheels etc. They gave the ball back to Liverpool repeatedly during instead of retaining possession. They deserved what they got.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2008, 05:51:22 PM
Some amazing stats from last night on http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/champions-league/2007-2008/arsenal-liverpool-229682.html

Clichy passed the ball 91 times
Fabregas 79
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 03, 2008, 05:55:09 PM
Arsenal's style of play is lovely in fairness. It's actually a throw back to the old Liverpool pass and move. As opposed to now, which is hoof and stand.

I notice they gave Skrtel the man of the match, that's interesting. I would have thought Gallas or Flamini, or even Fabergas. For Liverpool Gerrard or maybe headless Dirk.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 03, 2008, 05:58:43 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 03, 2008, 05:51:22 PM
Some amazing stats from last night on http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/champions-league/2007-2008/arsenal-liverpool-229682.html

Clichy passed the ball 91 times

Gave it away 24 times mind. ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2008, 06:01:42 PM
He had almost as many accurate passes as the whole Liverpool defence put together. Goes to show the differing game plans.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 03, 2008, 06:02:41 PM
That's bullshit. At least 80% of the Liverpool defence's clearences found the target. The fact that the target was sitting in Row G, Section 10 is irrelevent.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 03, 2008, 06:07:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 03, 2008, 06:01:42 PM
He had almost as many accurate passes as the whole Liverpool defence put together. Goes to show the differing game plans.

Luckily there's no bonus points in football for artistic merit then. ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2008, 06:45:18 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 03, 2008, 06:02:41 PM
That's bullshit. At least 80% of the Liverpool defence's clearences found the target. The fact that the target was sitting in Row G, Section 10 is irrelevent.

Accurate passes:

Clichy - 67

Hyypia 13
Aurelio 26
Carragher 14
Skrtel 20

What was impressive about Liverpool was that neither Carragher nor Skrtek had any 'bad' passes. That mightily impressive. Only bettered by Toure with 56 successes and zero bad and Eboue on 29-0. Hlebs 50-20 tells a story. Clichy also had 7 tackles, with Kuyt running away with that on 11. Also says a lot about his performance - mighty stats for a 'forward'.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on April 03, 2008, 07:14:06 PM
Kuyt has to make that many tackles because of his woeful touch!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on April 05, 2008, 11:25:11 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2008, 11:38:35 PM
Gilberto? I can only assume you haven't really been following Arsenal all that closely. Arsene saw in the Brazilian what he noticed in Vieira, Henry, Pires etc - his time was done. Gilberto was living on borrowed time towards the end of last season despite his goal tally from penalties. His passing and tackling this year was of a man in serious decline and the invisible wall has now completely disappeared. Wenger brought him on recently for a decent spell in a game. His first pass was straight to the opposition. His second was a glorious through ball to no one. He'll not be here come August. Gilberto, like Lehmann, had become a liability. Gallas is a motivator who plays with his heart on his sleeve. He has scored against Chelsea and Utd this year and leads the side by example. Forget the Birmingham incident. In my book that showed how much he cared. Gallas has not publically criticised his teammates so don't fall into the trap of tabloid sensationalism. He made honest remarks about Walcott, more encouraging than anything.

And yet Gilberto still holds down his place in midfield and the vice captaincy for Brazil, and no attempt was made to move him on last summer. Wenger wouldn't stoop so low as to freeze a player out for not doing what he wants? Edu tells a different story. Gilberto's interview telling of his "surprise" at wenger's choice of Gallas as captain had nothing to do with it. please don't tell me you expected gilberto to hit the ground running coming on in a game when he's hardly played in 6 months? misplaced his first 2 passes - what a surprise. you're right about one thing though- he'll not be there come august but he'll be at a top club.

Who exactly does gallas motivate? we saw enough of a snapshot of his character against chelsea when he refuesed to challenge drogba in the air for the last half hour, costing arsenal their title aspirations. tony adams was spitting feathers in the studio after at gallas' lack of "intestinal fortitude" and told richard keys he'd love a go at marking drogba. In fact the rte panel openly laughed out loud when old bill asked them about gallas' strengths as a captain.

Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2008, 11:38:35 PM
Almunia is a top-class shot stopper. Read the stats (or watch the games). Most of Arsenal goals against this year have been defensive errors.

The majority of goals conceded by any team are as a result of defensive errors ffs. It still has to get past the keeper. I've watched as many games as any gooner fan this season. Arguing that Almunia is good enough to be a top 4 keeper is laughable, absolutely laughable. how many premiership clubs would swap their keeper with wenger for the remainder of the season? derby? birmingham? maybe bolton as jussi is injured. the proof of the pudding will be in the summer when wenger will buy a number one of course. Basing arguments on stats is for those who cannot read a game themselves.

Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2008, 11:38:35 PM
Wenger did not inherit Vieira, Gilberto, Campbell, Toure, Flamini etc.
You don't seem to grasp what Arsene and his side have done this season. We expected nothing due to the loss of quite a few of the Invincibles recently. However, he led the league for yonks, progressed to the QF of the champions' league and is still challenging on both fronts. This is not bad for a side with no middle. As for Gilberto again, you must be joking.

You're right - i don't seem to have grasped what wenger has done this season? Am i right in saying f**k all? we're talking about professional soccer in the richest league in the world and a manager with one of the largest stadia and budgets in the world.

Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2008, 11:38:35 PM
If you want to, list the starting teams this weekend. List how much they cost. Arsenal would trail Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs and I wouldn't be surprised if one or two more sides were more expensive to assemble.

I'm sure that's a comfort.

By the way - Adebayor demonstrated again on wednesday night how much he detests those pesky crosses and how poor he is in the air....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 05, 2008, 12:24:47 PM
Arsenal have Gilberto, Nicklas Bendtner, Armand Traore, Justin Hoyte and Theo Walcott in starting 11
Emmanuel Adebayor on the bench.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 06, 2008, 08:34:35 PM
(http://clientimages.teamtalk.com/08/04/240/Football_Premier_League_Arsenal_Liverpool_Ars_769357.jpg)

Arsene is looking more comfortable as the season draws to a close ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 08, 2008, 09:44:02 AM
Fairly pessimistic about tonight. The two games in the last week won't have much of an impact on tonight if Liverpool play in the same manner - 'away' yet at home. If Liverpool, buoyed on by the home crowd (the best in Europe in terms of atmosphere bar Celtic), have a more gung-ho approach then Arsenal have a chance. Benitez knows exactly how to approach this game though. He's a bit of a master of the second legs.

I can see Wenger going with the one up front again in Adebayor. Van Persie shouldn't start, even if fit. Hoping he'll go for

Eboue - Toure - Gallas - Clichy
Walcott - Diaby - Fabregas- Flamini - Hleb
Adebayor

Options on the bench - Bendtner/Van Persie

More likely:

Toure - Senderos - Gallas - Clichy
Eboue - Fabregas- Flamini - Hleb
Van Persie
Adebayor

Liverpool, in the two games, seem to be suspect with high crossed  - Bendtner, Gallas, Toure and Adebayor have all connected fairly unchallenged.

Can Torres be contained again?


 

Beyond that options are fairly limited
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 08, 2008, 10:31:43 AM
Still think this game is going to penalties, Liverpool have the better keeper and wlll go through  :'(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on April 08, 2008, 10:55:32 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 08, 2008, 10:31:43 AM
Still think this game is going to penalties, Liverpool have the better keeper and wlll go through  :'(

I don't know how you can say that az, given that -

Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2008, 11:38:35 PM
Almunia is a top-class shot stopper. Read the stats (or watch the games). Most of Arsenal goals against this year have been defensive errors.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 08, 2008, 11:06:17 AM
Almunia is an excellent shot-stopper and has a brillinat record with penalty shoot-outs (when he was the Carling Cup keeper). If it does go to penalties, I'd be confident Almunia would be the hero of the hour. Lehmann let 4 in out of 5 against Utd in the Cup final.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 08, 2008, 11:47:22 AM
Quote from: Uladh on April 08, 2008, 10:55:32 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 08, 2008, 10:31:43 AM
Still think this game is going to penalties, Liverpool have the better keeper and wlll go through  :'(

I don't know how you can say that az, given that -

Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2008, 11:38:35 PM
Almunia is a top-class shot stopper. Read the stats (or watch the games). Most of Arsenal goals against this year have been defensive errors.

i didn't say it Uladh. That was Dinny.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on April 08, 2008, 11:52:30 AM

Sorry az - misrepresented you. heaven forbid i'd associate you with the views of a kildare man.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 08, 2008, 11:54:24 AM
Feckin' right. Although in fairness myself and Dinny are nearly singing off the saym hymnsheet when it comes to Munster Rugby at this stage. His new jersey is in the post :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 08, 2008, 12:10:31 PM
Uladh,

I don't have O'Neills faith in Almunia and think Reina is the better goalie. AZ do doubt is honoured to be mistaken for one of God's chosen people. Munster Rugby though will be ripped a new arse-hole this forthcoming Saturday by a side playing the kind of rugby Munster can only aspire to.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 08, 2008, 12:14:28 PM
What's that Dinny? Ah sure we might let ye have the Magner's league again (if ye can avoid choking of course).

"Only play on Setanta, ye only play on Setanta!!"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 08, 2008, 01:45:29 PM
the only way we will win this one is if we score first. If we can get the lead it will be advantage arsenal as liverpool will have to come out and play a bit. as can be seen by my posts i am not a senderos fan, however he did a good enough job last week. Dont know will wenger throw caution to the wind and go with walcott. on the wing think he will go with diaby.
I would like to see us go 4-3-1-2

                                                   almunia
                                        eboue gallas toure clichy
                                       
                                            diaby cesc flamini
                                                   
                                                    hleb
                                              walcott adebayor
     
with van persie to come on and bentner in reserve

Also did anyone see that barcelona may want to off load Henry in the summer??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 08, 2008, 08:01:21 PM
YESSSSS

I was just telling the wife how crap Diaby was!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 08, 2008, 08:18:42 PM
Senderos really is crap.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 08, 2008, 09:37:08 PM
Nice. ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 08, 2008, 09:41:34 PM
Brady gave fair analysis.

"Stonewall peno not given, debatable one given but that's football. Not a good night for Arsenal but a great night for football." Won't argue with that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 08, 2008, 09:55:37 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 08, 2008, 09:41:34 PM
Brady gave fair analysis.

"Stonewall peno not given, debatable one given but that's football. Not a good night for Arsenal but a great night for football." Won't argue with that.

Yeah, difficult for Chippy on a night like tonight, being so close to the Arse.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 08, 2008, 10:05:19 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2008, 09:55:37 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 08, 2008, 09:41:34 PM
Brady gave fair analysis.

"Stonewall peno not given, debatable one given but that's football. Not a good night for Arsenal but a great night for football." Won't argue with that.

Yeah, difficult for Chippy on a night like tonight, being so close to the Arse.
After getting all stroppy when they showed a piece about Wenger getting animated/frustrated on Saturday. Not taking another CL failure that well either.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 08, 2008, 10:13:51 PM
Jaysus how can a manager like Wenger continue to play Senderos. He is the reason we are through tonight.

Surely Toure should have been in there with eboue rb and walcott/a.n. other on the right?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 08, 2008, 10:34:31 PM
We're not a big team. But we're better than Spurs. That's enough.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 08, 2008, 10:35:08 PM
I think the panel were unfair on Liam Brady tonight. They know the position he is in, and if they want him to continue as a member of their panel, they have a funny way of showing it. He was obviously hurting from an extremely brave performance coming up short, and to have to sit through Dunphy giggling like a schoolkid about Arsene being like John Cleese was, as he said, a stitch up. There was a serious point, which Brady tried to make, about Wenger getting frustrated at how things are transpiring towards the season's end, and Souness was being serious enough too. But Dunphy and the editors obviously went and said 'If Arsenal lose, we'll use this piece to show him losing it'. That's a stitch up, and Brady was right.

Hard luck tonight lads, but ye have nothing to be down about. That's another fabulous team, playing fabulous football, in the oven there. They are just not 'done' yet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 08, 2008, 10:38:39 PM
You have to credit Liverpool. There's something for that physical pressure on opposition that Arsenal neglect that's admirable.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 09, 2008, 12:04:27 AM
5 16-Feb-08 A Manchester United L 0-4 (0-3)

2 L1 20-Feb-08 H Milan D 0-0 (0-0)  60,082
2 L2 04-Mar-08 A Milan W 2-0 (0-0) Fabregas 84; Adebayor 90 81,879  
QF L1 02-Apr-08 H Liverpool D 1-1 (1-1) Adebayor 23 60,041
QF L2 08-Apr-08 A Liverpool L 2-4 (1-1) Diaby 13; Adebayor 84


27 23-Feb-08 A Birmingham City D 2-2 (0-1) Walcott 50, 55 27,195
28 01-Mar-08 H Aston Villa D 1-1 (0-1) Bendtner 90 60,097
29 09-Mar-08 A Wigan Athletic D 0-0 (0-0)  19,676
30 15-Mar-08 H Middlesbrough D 1-1 (0-1) Toure 86 60,084
31 23-Mar-08 A Chelsea L 1-2 (0-0) Sagna 59 41,824
32 29-Mar-08 A Bolton Wanderers W 3-2 (0-2) Gallas 62; Van Persie 68p; Samuel(og) 91 22,431  
33 05-Apr-08 H Liverpool D 1-1 (0-1) Bendtner 54

Two wins in twelve games since Feb 11 win over Blackburn. God Arsenal play great football, but that statistic is shocking. All well and good passes completed, tackles made, etc. But the lack of squad has seriously hurt Arsenal at the Business end of the season (again).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: SLIGONIAN on April 09, 2008, 12:16:43 AM
Have to say hard luck to arsenal. I dont support any of the top 4 but admire all of them for different reasons. Ye were the better team over all 3 games and just got done on huge mistakes by ref which is outside yer control. That was no peno tonight. Ive seen from 5 different angles and it not a peno in my opinion.

The piece on wenger was a skit, to show emotion is HUMAN and we all get frustrated. If I were arsenal fan or player you would feel shafted. People go on about mental resolve, in anfield and played all the football first 30mins that shows resolve then to 2-1 down and comeback again shows resolve. Are people blind can they not see and ADMIRE it. Both teams showed it. It was great to watch as a neutral but call a spade a spade. Was coming back from bolton with 10men not a huge show of mental toughness...........Arsenal were the better team over 2 legs but the best team doesnt always win.

Sometimes in defeat you learn your greatest lessons and wenger will do that and move on and ye'll be stronger for it. ;) Yee do need to buy and get rid of some and games like tonight make ut alot clearer. Fantastic game to watch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on April 09, 2008, 12:41:04 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 08, 2008, 10:34:31 PM
We're not a big team. But we're better than Spurs. That's enough.

:D

I think the white flag has officially been raised. If you are content to be better than the spuds and that is enough for all you goner fans then fair fecks to you, mission accomplished. ;D

Arsenal were sublime for thirty minutes tonight and then started to play it safe a bit, Liverpool were always going to have a few chances but they didnt deserve to win it in the manner they did.

Liverpool are very tough in the CL and they have every chance to progress to the final again but they are brutal defensively and that will ultimately cost them.

Arsne is a yappy bastard, does he ever quit moaning at all at all?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 09, 2008, 12:42:54 AM
wenger has every right to be frustrated, never in a million yrs a penalty and comparing it to the hleb one in last game everyone who has half a clue about football can see that it wasnt.

great game of football and very very disappointed that we didnt win but glad to see theo has finally started to show what he can do...must be one of the quickest players in europe?

hopefully wenger can see now that senderos is terrible and has to go, hleb can be magic but gives the ball away easily and is just not consistent enough so probably has to go aswell!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 09, 2008, 12:46:44 AM
Quote from: stew on April 09, 2008, 12:41:04 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 08, 2008, 10:34:31 PM
We're not a big team. But we're better than Spurs. That's enough.
Liverpool are very tough in the CL and they have every chance to progress to the final again but they are brutal defensively and that will ultimately cost them.

Liverpool have scored more goals than Arsenal this season in all competitions. Not bad for such an alleged "defensive" side compared to an attacking one.

The two teams play in different styles but it would be incorrect to label Liverpool defensive.

Oops my bad. You said brutal defensively rather than brutall defensive. ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 09, 2008, 01:31:03 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 08, 2008, 10:35:08 PM
I think the panel were unfair on Liam Brady tonight. They know the position he is in, and if they want him to continue as a member of their panel, they have a funny way of showing it. He was obviously hurting from an extremely brave performance coming up short, and to have to sit through Dunphy giggling like a schoolkid about Arsene being like John Cleese was, as he said, a stitch up. There was a serious point, which Brady tried to make, about Wenger getting frustrated at how things are transpiring towards the season's end, and Souness was being serious enough too. But Dunphy and the editors obviously went and said 'If Arsenal lose, we'll use this piece to show him losing it'. That's a stitch up, and Brady was right.
I'd agree with most of that. But it's not so much that it was unfair on Brady it was pure and utter Podge and Rodge disrespect with giggling at a manager going through all the intense emotions on the sidelines and pontificate that he's losing it.
Dunphy is an embarrassment to the entire RTE sports dept.
If I want to be entertained by sarcastic abuse I can watch Podge and Rodge.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 09, 2008, 04:35:04 AM
Lasy year when Chelsea drew 1-1 at the Erimrates to signal the end of Chelsea's championship chances, the Arsenal fans sang 'LIVERPOOL' to acclaim the Scousers CL victory over Chelsea. It's funny how these things can swing round.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stevo-08 on April 09, 2008, 09:33:19 AM
Quote from: stew on April 09, 2008, 12:41:04 AM
Liverpool are very tough in the CL and they have every chance to progress to the final again but they are brutal defensively and that will ultimately cost them.


The most clean sheets in PL (15) & 25 goals conceded, with only man utd & chelsea conceding fewer. They've let in a few soft goals recently but hardly grounds to call them brutal defensively!!!

Regarding brady, dunphy & souness. Agree with most posters that brady was right to feel wenger was shafted. Dunphy is a wind up merchant, plain & simple. And a complete hypocrite also - Ridiculing wenger when only a few months ago he was praising him from the rooftops.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 09, 2008, 09:47:42 AM
Dunphy always has the grain of a point, but as I've said before he is not big on consistent viewpoints, to say the least. I'd say the rooms in his house get a new colour of paint every week.

Anyway, his stance on Wenger now is based on his call in January that Wenger needed to strengthen the depth of his squad. It was a good shout, but I would have thought a fairly obvious one, even if Wenger is not a manager who splashes cash at the drop of a hat. If Eduardo and Rosicky hadn't been injured, this would probably not be an issue, but injuries are part and parcel of life at the top level. But now that Dunphy has been proved right, he is going on, and on, and on, and on about it, and the remarks last night were just silly stuff. I felt it was unfair on Brady because Brady, don't forget, works for Wenger at Arsenal. If he is associated with comments or skits like that, it puts him in a very compromising position with Wenger. I felt he was spot on to blow the lid to be honest.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on April 09, 2008, 09:55:10 AM
QuoteIf Eduardo and Rosicky hadn't been injured

And Sagna too.  Just goes to show the Arsenal squad is too small to win without being lucky (which they're not).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 09, 2008, 09:58:13 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 09, 2008, 04:35:04 AM
Lasy year when Chelsea drew 1-1 at the Erimrates to signal the end of Chelsea's championship chances, the Arsenal fans sang 'LIVERPOOL' to acclaim the Scousers CL victory over Chelsea. It's funny how these things can swing round.

So, in the hours that follow Chelsea's victory in the quarter finals of the CL you prefer to write in the Arsenal thread about some nondescript fan bantering at half four in the morning rather than contribute to the Chelsea thread whatsoever.

And who says Chelsea fans are plastic?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 09, 2008, 10:31:31 AM
How can we and everybody else see how poor Senseros is? I know Wenger has ahem poor eyesight but even Ray Charles can see how brutal Senderos is.......

Ah well, this season could well be the making of this Arsenal side, played some fantastic football and been so young can only learn from the these defeats...

Life could be worse, you could be a spud....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 09, 2008, 10:38:15 AM
Cygan, Senderos, Luzhny, Stephanovs ....what was the name of the other eejit....began with L I think.

Wenger has bought some bloody brillant defenders in his time....

One moment of madness from Toure cost us.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stevo-08 on April 09, 2008, 10:48:04 AM
or as souness said last night at HT: "30 minutes of brilliance wiped out by one moment of dopiness". Liverpool dont score from corners, it just doesnt happen - but that was an absolute gift.

couldnt believe wenger kept senderos on. as someone else said, toure should have been moved into cb and eboue at rb with walcott on. obviously the flamini injury restricted his options but senderos was a complete liability for the entire game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 09, 2008, 10:50:39 AM
it was encapsulated in one moment for me. When Torres received the ball in the penalty area, Senderos was touch tight. When Torres executed a fairly standard turn, Senderos was probably 2 yards away. That's brutal defending from a centre half.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on April 09, 2008, 10:57:55 AM
Have to say I was gutted last night for Arsenal and being a Blackburn fan I had no particular allegiance to either side. Ultimately it was the strength in depth that has cost Arsenal this season. Eduardo, VP, Sagna, Toure, Eboue ( who has been shite this past few weeks and I think is a FB or nothing), Rosicky. When you're missing that calibre of player for a large chunk of the season it is going to cost you. They have played some amazing football this year and to be honest I think that they have probably over achieved given the injuries they have had because let's face it, United would not be in the position they are in had Ronaldo played the same amount of games as VP this year.

Anyway I think Wenger's main problem to sort out for next year is his defence. Toure and Gallas are the only decent Centre Halves they have and if one is injured or needs a rest Senderos is just not up to the standard as he will make mistakes at the wrong time. Because of this both have looked tired coming to the end of the season and they need a real backup to keep fresh for the season. If he can keep the rest of the squad together then I fancy Arsenal for a Double Next year! Blackburn for the Cup though ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on April 09, 2008, 11:05:33 AM
QuoteUnited would not be in the position they are in had Ronaldo played the same amount of games as VP this year

What kind of bollox statement is that.  Every team has a player that is seen as their main man, and RVP is not the main man at Arsenal anyway.  He spends more time in police stations and the treatment table than he does on the pitch.  Sure Liverpool would be nowhere without Torres this season, as would Arsenal without Fabregas/Adebayor!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 09, 2008, 01:57:18 PM
totally gutted today. But the plain truth is we need a few players to strengthen the squad. IMO we need a goalkeeper, a centre back, a combative centre midfield and right sided midfielder.Here is the list of the arsenal squad. There is some that are surplus to requirement at the club. Clear them out and buy in experienced players in these postions and we will challenge next year
here is my thoughts on the present squad
1.   Jens Lehmann
2.   Abou Diaby - i have hopes for him, although at this stage he needs to be becoming a viera like player(please god as good)
3.   Bacary Sagna- great first season
4.   Cesc Fabregas - is now world class
5.    Kolo Toure - lets keep him in the centre
6.    Philippe Senderos
7.    Tomas Rosicky- needs to stay injury free - but he is not as good as i had hoped he would be
9.     Eduardo- will be like a new player next year all being well
10.    William Gallas- less spoiled brat and more leadership like last night
11.    Robin Van Persie- needs a full season, a good euro 08 will put him in good shape
13.    Alexander Hleb- had a good season, although off the boil now. need to sort his head out is he staying or leaving
15.    Denilson- must become the player he has the potential to be
16.    Mathieu Flamini- the same as this year hopefully
17.    Alexandre Song- i think he can offer something, he has a great African cup
19.    Gilberto
20.    Johan Djourou - keep him as a back up player,he is versatile
21.    Lukasz Fabianski- i think can become number 1 but defo number 2 if we we off load
22.    Gael Clichy-needs not to overplay the ball, but developing well
24.    Manuel Almunia- i would get rid of him
25.    Emmanuel Adebayor- more of the same but maybe work on his offside trap?
26.    Nicklas Bendtner - keep for another year
27.    Emmanuel Eboue-
30.    Armand Traore- needs to follow clichys development
31.    Justin Hoyte
32.    Theo Walcott- needs to start becoming the player he has the potiental to be
        Kerrea Gilbert         
               Mark Randall- dont know enough about him yet?
 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 09, 2008, 05:20:40 PM
When it is said that Wenger should get out his cheque book, does it mean that the Board had already provided cash for signings?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 09, 2008, 06:42:42 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 09, 2008, 09:58:13 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 09, 2008, 04:35:04 AM
Lasy year when Chelsea drew 1-1 at the Erimrates to signal the end of Chelsea's championship chances, the Arsenal fans sang 'LIVERPOOL' to acclaim the Scousers CL victory over Chelsea. It's funny how these things can swing round.

So, in the hours that follow Chelsea's victory in the quarter finals of the CL you prefer to write in the Arsenal thread about some nondescript fan bantering at half four in the morning rather than contribute to the Chelsea thread whatsoever.

And who says Chelsea fans are plastic?


So it's ok for an Arsenal fan on here to post a personal insult about myself, but it's not ok for me to come and give a wee bit back?

Unfortuantely I was at work right through the night, so had very little time to contribute to the Chelsea thread on a game of which there is little to debate. Hopefully I'll find time to populate it tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 09, 2008, 07:18:30 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 09, 2008, 05:20:40 PM
When it is said that Wenger should get out his cheque book, does it mean that the Board had already provided cash for signings?

They have always maintained the money is there should he want it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 09, 2008, 07:55:09 PM
I'm still a bit touchy Norf!

Great viewing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjpkz_CZs8M
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 10, 2008, 05:22:52 PM
Flamini out for 3 weeks. Lehmann on the warpath. Anyone else thing Utd are going to twist the dagger in on Sunday?

I can see Walcott and Van Persie up front on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 10, 2008, 05:46:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 10, 2008, 05:22:52 PM
Flamini out for 3 weeks. Lehmann on the warpath. Anyone else thing Utd are going to twist the dagger in on Sunday?

I can see Walcott and Van Persie up front on Sunday.

nah, he will go with van persie and adebayor with walcot on the wing. senderos will get dropped and eboue will go to full back and toure to the centre
He will go with adebayor because of the aerial threat with ferdinand & vidic hopefully out!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on April 10, 2008, 06:18:21 PM
Should have went that way on Tuesday. Ferdinand just cut his foot last night in a separate injury and should be fit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 10, 2008, 06:29:08 PM
I think Adebayor might be benched for the simple reason that with 5 games left he'll try something different. For some reason he's persisting with Eboue in midfield. Diaby has played his way in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 10, 2008, 10:54:58 PM
hopefully he'll send senderos on the euro star to france on a one way ticket and ensure he doesnt come back...theo deserves his start and van persie didnt look anywhere near fit the other night so wil be interesting to see how he pulled up after the game...flamini will be massive loss, our best player this yr and deserves his big contract which i think he will get..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 10, 2008, 11:03:41 PM
Senderos is the sort of fellow who'll do a fine job for an average team. He actually stars for Switzerland. However, in order to play the type of game Arsenal do, you cannot have lads like him f**king about - you know when he plays he'll make at least two errors.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 13, 2008, 09:49:08 PM
Lads, its gone very quiet in here! Anyway look at the bright side Arsenal are out of all competitions, so this is the perfect opportunity for them to give the young lads at the club a run!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on April 13, 2008, 10:52:41 PM
The gonners are finished for yet another year, another champions league nightmare only sets up another loss fuelled by a penalty, the gonners are almost becoming the lovable losers of the premiership/champions league. The spuds better look out, the arse look to be trying to outdo them in the oveable losers bracket.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 13, 2008, 11:33:28 PM
Quote from: stew on April 13, 2008, 10:52:41 PM
The gonners are finished for yet another year, another champions league nightmare only sets up another loss fuelled by a penalty, the gonners are almost becoming the lovable losers of the premiership/champions league. The spuds better look out, the arse look to be trying to outdo them in the oveable losers bracket.
(http://clientimages.teamtalk.com/08/04/146/210290.jpg)
Look there are feck all clubs/fans who have sympathy for Arsenal. Sympathy is usually consigned to relegation battle clubs, And the Arse are light years away from that. If anything there is always a sense of pleasure for rivals to see their peers going through a bad patch.

Wenger has a big job ahead over the summer, in holding onto some of his gems, culling the herd of unwanted players and purchasing some quality as well as experience. I suppose Wenger has been a victim of the over-achievement of this group earlier in the season that gave supporters, players and the Media false hope. I do believe that the Gunners have been unlucky. But you'll often find being unlucky follows inexperience, hot heads, youth, belief, fear, Paranoia, weak mindset, etc.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: FermGael on April 14, 2008, 01:59:39 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A34604039 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A34604039)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on April 15, 2008, 03:47:35 PM
looks like they are moving on from it all
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk182/MUFCPICS/arsena_zoolander_animation1.gif)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on April 15, 2008, 04:32:33 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Its the only time I've seen anyone connected with the Goons in an animated state
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2008, 10:05:43 AM
A decent performance on Sunday. A little rub of the green and Arsenal could've taken the three points (thanks to Ferdinand's clanger). However, a decent season. We expected little and exceeded all expectations. Remarkably, if Arsenal take 12 points in their last 4 games, they'll end up with 80-odd points. Amazing what it takes to win the title. Even last week, with Arsenal more or less out of it, they'd only lost 2 league games all season. It has got to the stage when a draw is a disastrous result for the big three.

Anyone see Archer's article in the IN today about Arsenal? A 12-year old Liverpool fan must've written it for him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 16, 2008, 10:18:17 AM
Good post O'Neill, agree with most of that. Conversely expectations will be very high for next season, personally would like to see Wenger sign a quality centre-half, another goalie and 2 holding mid-fielders.

QuoteAnyone see Archer's article in the IN today about Arsenal? A 12-year old Liverpool fan must've written it for him.

Can this be posted up?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 16, 2008, 01:17:07 PM
perhaps another raid on chelsea, ben haim seems to be unhappy there and although not world class is better than senderos (then again that would not be hard), is up to premier league speed. Him along with another great centre half would leave us with 5 very good centre halfs. toure, gallas & djouru & 2 new.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 16, 2008, 01:27:54 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 16, 2008, 10:05:43 AM
Amazing what it takes to win the title. Even last week, with Arsenal more or less out of it, they'd only lost 2 league games all season. It has got to the stage when a draw is a disastrous result for the big three.


Yip. I was just thinking the same a few days back. A few years back you would get a bit of jip at work for losing games. These days if you draw, it's time to hide!
Arsenal's unbeatables, and Jose's double champions have raised the bar for United. I think Ferguson has come along and to be fair has met the challange. However in my opinion what it has done, is that it has improved English teams performance in Europe. Four finals in the last four years suggests that, and perhaps this is what ultimately may provide the platform for United to be better in Europe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on April 16, 2008, 01:58:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 16, 2008, 10:05:43 AM

Anyone see Archer's article in the IN today about Arsenal? A 12-year old Liverpool fan must've written it for him.

I did alright, it was pretty and juvenile and had a large dose of being wise after the event. It belonged in the "Total tool Journalists" thread........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 19, 2008, 11:43:54 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 16, 2008, 10:05:43 AM
A decent performance on Sunday. A little rub of the green and Arsenal could've taken the three points (thanks to Ferdinand's clanger). However, a decent season. We expected little and exceeded all expectations. Remarkably, if Arsenal take 12 points in their last 4 games, they'll end up with 80-odd points. Amazing what it takes to win the title. Even last week, with Arsenal more or less out of it, they'd only lost 2 league games all season. It has got to the stage when a draw is a disastrous result for the big three.

Anyone see Archer's article in the IN today about Arsenal? A 12-year old Liverpool fan must've written it for him.

Ah yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. So much for not losing games. Arsenal have only won 2 in your last 13. That is terrible form and you can hide behind how much of a remarkable season (Bull Sh*t) all you like, but the reality is that when Arsenal came to the "Business" end of the season, Arsenal faded. All the big Games Against Liverpool, Man u, Chelsea and even the Spuds in the League Cup, were put down to bad luck, bad refereeing, bad tackles, etc. You say your expectations were exceeded. Not from the posts i've seem over the last couple of months. (And rightly so Expectations should be high for an established top three club such as Arsenal). And yes as you say it will be remarkable if Arsenal end up with 12 points from their last 4 games. Actually they should do it now the pressure of having anything to win is off!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 19, 2008, 07:30:58 PM
I apologise to you for not being devastated at Arsenal's demise. I also apologise that I said Arsenal had a decent season as decent means remarkable to you.

From your recent posts you seem to be happy to speak after the event, merrily reveling in Arsenal's poor form. Were you not loved?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 20, 2008, 12:24:49 AM
Ah no ONeill,  I apologise, I did realise you were not devistated with Arsenals demise. Anyway, the reality is that Arsenal played some of the Best football untill mid-february, to the envy of every other club in the Premier League. There was a level of cockiness to Arsenal and truthfully they looked unbeatable. This caused amongst the other fans the Steve Davis syndrome (where some one is so good you want to see them lose). And remarkably over the last couple of weeks this happened, much to the Happiness of other rivals, it's the way it goes, Sorry (kinda don't mean it). My recent post you refer to just point to Arsenals recent form. Yes i revelled in their demise, but that is because they were shit hot at the begining of the season. The Biggest insult to Arsenal this season was Fergie giving his (Belittling) words of comfort to Wenger after beating them last week. Arsenal are a top club who (by thier high recent standards are disappointingly) are going to finish 3rd in the league (probably on 80ish points as you said), lost 4-0 to the FA Cup to Man Ure, Lost to the Spuds 6-2 on AGG in LC and lost to Scouse 5-3 on AGG in CL. They have not won anything in 3 years, but Wenger is still the man because we still hate him and the day we begin to like him will be the end.

PS. I was cheering for the Arse last week and also i was never loved.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 22, 2008, 12:19:01 AM
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3271/roastspurspn7.gif)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 22, 2008, 11:46:32 AM
(http://i30.tinypic.com/jr4r3s.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on April 23, 2008, 12:06:38 AM
 :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on April 23, 2008, 12:10:14 AM
That is class! ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 23, 2008, 12:25:11 AM
Good to see the lads enjoying themselves.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 24, 2008, 04:57:44 PM
from sky.com

Internazionale coach Roberto Mancini has confirmed Arsenal ace Alexander Hleb is one of his summer transfer targets.
Hleb has been continually linked with a possible summer switch to Inter in the last few months, after reports emerged that the Belarus midfielder and an agent had met with Inter officials last month.
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has spoken of his fears of losing the talented midfielder, with Hleb having just two years to run on his current contract at Emirates Stadium.
Inter boss Roberto Mancini is a big admirer of Hleb and he says the Arsenal man, along with Genoa's Abdoulay Konko and Udinese's Gokhan Inler, are on his transfer wish-list.
Targets
"We have already spoken about the players we would like to sign," Mancini told the Corriere dello Sport.
"We are interested in Hleb, Inler and Konko."
Wenger admitted he is keen to keep hold of his best players, but he could face a major fight to hang onto Hleb, who will miss Arsenal's last three games of the season through suspension.
No problems
Meanwhile, Mancini has played down reports of unrest between himself and Inter president Massimo Moratti.
Mancini's position at the club has been the subject of debate with reports suggesting Inter have lined up a move for former Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho to replace him at Giuseppe Meazza.
However, Mancini has played down the rumours and insists he has no problem with Moratti.
"Between me and Moratti there are no problems and everything is quiet," added Mancini.


hope he doesn't go. he has been one of our best players this year
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 24, 2008, 06:37:13 PM
Re the above regarding Hleb. Chelsea went through this with Robben last year and the Real president shouting from the roof tops about buying him.

Is this not tapping up??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 24, 2008, 06:47:06 PM
I'm a massive fan of Hleb. He's a throwback to the talented played at school who used to have the ball stuck to his foot as if it was glued there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 24, 2008, 10:17:00 PM
i have said it before that hleb is a good player but not good enough, cannot be counted upon to do it in the big games...he'll be a big miss if he does go but wont be too worried to be honest as i think rosicky is twice the player
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 24, 2008, 11:16:41 PM
Any chance of editing the thread title Dinny in recognition of our champions (http://www.arsenal.com/matchreport.asp?thisNav=fixtures&fxid=325777)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 25, 2008, 10:15:35 AM
Quote from: hitzelsperger on April 24, 2008, 10:17:00 PM
i have said it before that hleb is a good player but not good enough, cannot be counted upon to do it in the big games...he'll be a big miss if he does go but wont be too worried to be honest as i think rosicky is twice the player

the problem i have  with rosicky is he spends more time on the treatment table than on the field.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 28, 2008, 12:36:58 PM
I wonder will there be an announcement on whether flamini has signed or not today? Normal practice seems to be on the day of a game to do it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 28, 2008, 10:02:29 PM
6-2. Should've been 16-2.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 29, 2008, 12:03:34 AM
Man Utd 0 West Ham 0
Arsenal 2 Everton 1
Newcastle 1 Chelsea o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpSFExhRdBA
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on April 29, 2008, 11:49:45 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 29, 2008, 12:03:34 AM
Man Utd 0 West Ham 0
Arsenal 2 Everton 1
Newcastle 1 Chelsea o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpSFExhRdBA

Chelsea O 1 Bolton
Arsenal 2 Sunderland 0
Wigan 1 Man Utd 0

Champions!!!!!!! This is a Carlsberg Moment!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on May 01, 2008, 09:38:46 AM
Arsenal MD has fucked off, is it all falling apart? , hleb, flamini want out, wengers lost the plot........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 01, 2008, 09:42:40 AM
What's this about AFR?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on May 01, 2008, 09:45:38 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 01, 2008, 09:42:40 AM
What's this about AFR?

just broke on sky sports that the Managing Director has quit, loves the club we have grown as a business etc . Looks ripe for a take over at the grove
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 01, 2008, 09:47:14 AM
Will Dein try and move back in? I read an interview about him recently, it sounded like he'd go back in the morning.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on May 01, 2008, 09:49:37 AM
i belive theres a big russian billionaire lurking in the background, would be funny to watch them eat humble pie after all this time looking down their noses at chelsea
Title: Looks like Flamini is heading for Italy
Post by: Uladh on May 01, 2008, 11:16:04 AM

http://english.gazzetta.it/Football/Primo_Piano/2008/04_Aprile/25/flamini.shtml
Title: Flamini signed for milan.
Post by: Puckoon on May 05, 2008, 05:56:36 PM
Must have been the food  he didnt like.  :-\

Any thoughts on who could do a job for us now that flamini is gone?
Title: Re: Flamini signed for milan.
Post by: Uladh on May 05, 2008, 09:05:43 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on May 05, 2008, 05:56:36 PM
Must have been the food  he didnt like.  :-\

Or the paucity of medals?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2008, 10:19:09 AM
QuoteOr the paucity of medals?

As if that matters anymore   ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on May 06, 2008, 11:45:44 AM

Of course not. as o'neill says, arsenal fans aren't interested in trophies but rather the joy of the exhuberant football arsene has his team playing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2008, 11:49:14 AM
Money my friend is all that matters, you are as delusional as the aveage Liverpool supporter if you think any professional footballer signs for a team to win trophies...is that why Lucas Neill joined the Hammers??  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on May 06, 2008, 11:54:23 AM

in all seriousness, i would suggest that for the majority of players, if the money is there or there abouts then it'd come down to potential for silverware. there are obvious exceptions in the likes of neil.

are you suggesting there is less chance of flamini picking up medals next year than if he'd stayed with the goons?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 06, 2008, 11:56:56 AM
I'd sort of agree with Uladh here. I think if the money is there or thereabouts, then the chance of winning stuff, and therefore ensuring another bumper payday in the next contract, would certainly be a factor.

But if the money from a lesser team is stupid money, then a lot of players will take the easy pay day with no expectations, no doubt about it.

And then you'll have the greedy f*ckers who almost crash their cars at 'only' getting £60k a week rather than £65.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiff breeze on May 06, 2008, 11:57:40 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2008, 11:49:14 AM
Money my friend is all that matters, you are as delusional as the aveage Liverpool supporter if you think any professional footballer signs for a team to win trophies...is that why Lucas Neill joined the Hammers??  ::)

why do players sign for arsenal then? Its definately not money as there is a salary cap in place and its not to win trophys either. Im baffled to tell ya the truth
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on May 06, 2008, 12:00:15 PM

Most of them sign straight from some continental team's academy so they're on fcuk all to start with
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2008, 12:12:05 PM
Quotein all seriousness, i would suggest that for the majority of players, if the money is there or there abouts then it'd come down to potential for silverware. there are obvious exceptions in the likes of neil.

Yes but in all fairness things aren't going to be there or there abouts, they'll just use one teams offer as leverage until they get the best deal.  And to answer your other question Flamini would have a better chance to win medals with Arsenal than Milan, Milan will just about squeeze into the Champions League, were completely outplayed by Arsenal in the 2nd round and are very much an aging side, it's hard to see how Flamini will improve them or how they will challenge in the Serie A next year. Even the most blinded Man U fan will have to agree that up until Feb Arsenal were the best side in the premiership. Eduardo's leg break was the catalyst for a very bad run of form/luck where Arsenal's lack of squad dept was crucial and Arsenal couldn't turn the tide. The future is very bright for this Arsenal side and Flamini will find out as did Anelka, Cole, Henry, Reyes, Wiltord, Pires that you don't become a better player by leaving Arsenal but you do by joining and staying at Arsenal.

Quote
why do players sign for arsenal then? Its definately not money as there is a salary cap in place and its not to win trophys either. Im baffled to tell ya the truth

You're not the only one....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiff breeze on May 06, 2008, 12:26:10 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2008, 12:12:05 PM
Quotein all seriousness, i would suggest that for the majority of players, if the money is there or there abouts then it'd come down to potential for silverware. there are obvious exceptions in the likes of neil.

Yes but in all fairness things aren't going to be there or there abouts, they'll just use one teams offer as leverage until they get the best deal.  And to answer your other question Flamini would have a better chance to win medals with Arsenal than Milan, Milan will just about squeeze into the Champions League, were completely outplayed by Arsenal in the 2nd round and are very much an aging side, it's hard to see how Flamini will improve them or how they will challenge in the Serie A next year. Even the most blinded Man U fan will have to agree that up until Feb Arsenal were the best side in the premiership. Eduardo's leg break was the catalyst for a very bad run of form/luck where Arsenal's lack of squad dept was crucial and Arsenal couldn't turn the tide. The future is very bright for this Arsenal side and Flamini will find out as did Anelka, Cole, Henry, Reyes, Wiltord, Pires that you don't become a better player by leaving Arsenal but you do by joining and staying at Arsenal.

Quote
why do players sign for arsenal then? Its definately not money as there is a salary cap in place and its not to win trophys either. Im baffled to tell ya the truth

You're not the only one....

are anelka and cole not challenging for the title this year and in a champions league final? better for leaving arsenal, me thinks yes
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2008, 12:31:33 PM
Quoteare anelka and cole not challenging for the title this year and in a champions league final? better for leaving arsenal, me thinks yes

Are they better players? They might be better rewarded but Cole for example has gone from being the best left-back in England to a player who will struggle to get his England place and is probably the least popular footballer in the premeirship.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiff breeze on May 06, 2008, 12:35:33 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2008, 12:31:33 PM
Quoteare anelka and cole not challenging for the title this year and in a champions league final? better for leaving arsenal, me thinks yes

Are they better players? They might be better rewarded but Cole for example has gone from being the best left-back in England to a player who will struggle to get his England place and is probably the least popular footballer in the premeirship.

If they win the CL  i think they will count themselves better players yes. As for being unpopular dont think he will mind when he picks up that pay check every week. he is still the best LB in england though I hate to say it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2008, 12:44:04 PM
Quotehe is still the best LB in england though I hate to say it.

Not a chance Clichy or Evra any day...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiff breeze on May 06, 2008, 12:46:27 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2008, 12:44:04 PM
Quotehe is still the best LB in england though I hate to say it.

Not a chance Clichy or Evra any day...

sorry mate put that the wrong way , he is the best english LB in the country. Clichy is on a par with nhim though evra the hateful tr**p is the best in the prem IMO. watch out for Insua from LFC, lad is a talent
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2008, 12:57:39 PM
What about players that have improved after leaving Arsenal...Bentley and Sidwell  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 06, 2008, 02:30:45 PM
Not concerned at all at Flamini leaving. In terms of workrate, it was fantastic this year but that is replaceable. He was probably the least talented of our midfielders. He's had one good season - last year he on the verge of being farmed out to Birmingham and I think he naver forgave AW for that. I'm more concerned at Hleb possibily leaving.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on May 06, 2008, 03:11:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 06, 2008, 02:30:45 PM
Not concerned at all at Flamini leaving. In terms of workrate, it was fantastic this year but that is replaceable. He was probably the least talented of our midfielders.

Unless, of course, you consider the ability to tackle, win possession and shield your defence a talent...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 06, 2008, 04:39:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 06, 2008, 02:30:45 PM
Not concerned at all at Flamini leaving. In terms of workrate, it was fantastic this year but that is replaceable. He was probably the least talented of our midfielders. He's had one good season - last year he on the verge of being farmed out to Birmingham and I think he naver forgave AW for that. I'm more concerned at Hleb possibily leaving.

I can not agree with you totally o neill about flamini. True enough up to this year i would not have rated him very highly and indeed he was not even getting a game because gilberto was playing very well. However this year he went up in my estimation and had developed a great partnership with fabregas. He bossed the midfield in a number of games and with gilberto on the decline it is imperative that we buy a proven tackler in midfield. In a year or so denilson will be ready to slot into this position but we definately need someone for now.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 06, 2008, 06:46:20 PM
Quote from: ildanach on May 06, 2008, 04:39:16 PM


I can not agree with you totally o neill about flamini. True enough up to this year i would not have rated him very highly and indeed he was not even getting a game because gilberto was playing very well. However this year he went up in my estimation and had developed a great partnership with fabregas. He bossed the midfield in a number of games and with gilberto on the decline it is imperative that we buy a proven tackler in midfield. In a year or so denilson will be ready to slot into this position but we definately need someone for now.


Whilst there's no doubt that he had his best year, there are a few players out there who can do what he offered - Milan now have 3 in midfield! Flamini played behind Fabregas/Hleb/Rosicky/Van Perise who were keeping possession like schoolyard bullies although he had a habit of playing well against the big boys. Yes, there's no one at the club who can do that role right now but I fully expect AW to beef up all areas this summer. I'd be quite excited by the Flamini replacement as I feel we'll get a better model. I honestly believe he'll struggle to nail a starting place at Milan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on May 06, 2008, 10:22:23 PM
i think he'll struggle too, the 70grand a week is only thing he went for..not sure who will replace him..heard rumours of gareth barry but not sure if hes up to the standard! ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Rav67 on May 06, 2008, 11:42:56 PM
Flamini was fantastic this season, could maybe even have made the team of the year.  To replace him properly with an established defensive midfielder that can also play a bit would cost in excess of £15million (Mascherano and Hargreaves went for at least this amount).  His move has also damaged Arsenal's reputation a lot and has contributed to rumours about the likes of Farbregas and Hleb leaving.  I can't believe Wenger left it so long to offer him a contact.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 07, 2008, 12:00:23 AM
Flamini was correct in his decision. He realised that his stock is highest right now, and probably will not enjoy the same market value again. Arsenal cannot compete with Milan and Madrid if a player decides he really wants to go and play at the biggest clubs, unless AW works his magic. Wenger will always hold on to the players he knows he cannot do without - Vieira, Henry, Bergkamp etc stayed at Arsenal at their peak despite being heavily courted every summer. That was down to Arsene's power of persuasion. I get the feeling he would like to have kept Flamini but is not overly worried.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on May 07, 2008, 05:41:21 PM
What exactly is the wage structure at Arsenal like? Who is top earner? Thought with the new stadium and all Arsenal could pay what's needed for top players these days. Unbelievable that during a hugely successful season, until a month or so ago, Hleb and Flamini could be allowed to drift to the end of their contracts. Bad management or questionable characters involved, I'd say the latter with agents looking for top dollar.
Agree with O'Neill though, can see Flamini becoming a squad player at AC, nothing more.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 08, 2008, 11:59:42 AM
Quote from: ExiledGael on May 07, 2008, 05:41:21 PM
Hleb and Flamini could be allowed to drift to the end of their contracts. Bad management or questionable characters involved, I'd say the latter with agents looking for top dollar.
Hleb is still under contract  for 2 more years. It is a buy out clause that inter are trying to use to get him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on May 08, 2008, 02:43:43 PM
QuoteWhat exactly is the wage structure at Arsenal like? Who is top earner?

Flamini was offered £55k a week to stay right?   Wenger then said he could not offer more due to their wage structure?  Surely you'll need to pay the likes of Fabregas more then £55k a week when his contract comes up?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on May 08, 2008, 08:11:13 PM
Quote from: ildanach on May 08, 2008, 11:59:42 AM
Quote from: ExiledGael on May 07, 2008, 05:41:21 PM
Hleb and Flamini could be allowed to drift to the end of their contracts. Bad management or questionable characters involved, I'd say the latter with agents looking for top dollar.
Hleb is still under contract  for 2 more years. It is a buy out clause that inter are trying to use to get him.

Ah I see. Still that's the type of stipulations you get at smaller clubs if that's the case. Surprising here. Arsene has a bit of a go at whoever was conducting Arsenal's contract dealings in the papers today. Doesn't seem happy, not only with the wage cap, but how the dealings were handled.
"It is a problem, the salaries on offer, but we did not master this situation because when a player is out of contract he can sign where he wants"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on May 09, 2008, 01:05:27 PM
55 grand is the limit that wenger will apparently go to in paying players but i think he broke it for campbell who came on a free, henry who got 90grand and maybe vieira. i think cesc is probably on more than 55 cos wenger can build a team around him, i personally think its ridiculous that there is a wage limit in a club the size of arsenal because it will limit the number of world class players we can sign (all will be looking 70grand+ per week)

agree that flamini will probably be a bit-part player at the san siro and would have been happier to lose Hleb than him!

the first man out the door after next weekend should and hopefully will be senderos, hes just not up to the standard! also wonder who wenger will by as goalkeeper to replace the mad german...still have to see more of fabianski and almunia is only goin to last another season or two!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 09, 2008, 01:13:00 PM
I would love to see them sign Micah richards. It would give us cover at right back and him and toure in the centre would be great.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 09, 2008, 01:20:46 PM
Quote from: hitzelsperger on May 09, 2008, 01:05:27 PM
agree that flamini will probably be a bit-part player at the san siro and would have been happier to lose Hleb than him!

Flamini will probably be a regular at Milan next season. Gattuso is off to Bayern Munich apparently.

Hleb may soon be following Flamini out the door if his agent has his way.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 11, 2008, 11:08:15 PM
83 points. Didn't see that coming last August. Although that's a plus, it's not often you hit that amount of points and a club like Arsenal need to make it count. Hard to believe that despite losing only 3 times in the league, Arsenal were more or less out of it by late March. The transfer market will be crucial this summer, with a player similar to Flamini needed as well as a season injury free for Van Persie, Eduardo and Rosicky. Walcott has improved as the season progressed. The back four of Clichy, Toure, Gallas and Sagna is top class (as well as Song), although the cover is rather dubious. In Walcott, Rosicky, Fabregas, Hleb, Diaby and Denilson is impressive but needs steel. Adebayor, Van Persie and Bendtner (with Eduardo) has goals in it

With 83 points, the league would have been won in 2003, 2001, 1999, 1998, 1997, 1996. All that says is that the bar has been raised.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on May 11, 2008, 11:14:01 PM
Saw Wenger on Arsenal TV being interviewed on a question and answer session. He seemed happy with this season and talked about how clubs who moved to new stadiums took a while to settle into them. He seemed pretty confident about the years ahead. I'd say Arsenal would be a good bet for next years Championship.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 13, 2008, 09:07:47 PM
New home shirt apparently

(http://i29.tinypic.com/331g6s1.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 14, 2008, 11:59:03 AM
Jaysus Gab, you're mad into the new kits. Are you some sort of fashion icon or something? :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on May 14, 2008, 03:17:13 PM
As long as they're commercially produced in Leprechaun size, Gab is the main man for style.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 19, 2008, 01:54:14 PM
Premier League - Arsenal in talks with Aquilani
Eurosport - Mon, 19 May 13:46:00 2008

Arsenal are holding talks with Roma midfielder Alberto Aquilani, according to the Italy international's agent.

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger is reportedly keen on recruiting the highly-rated 23-year-old in a bid to fill the gap left following Mathieu Flamini's departure to Milan.

And following comments from Aquilani's agent, Vincenzo Morabito, there appears to be some substance to those reports.

Morabito told Italia Uno: "Aquilani is speaking to Arsenal. We will have to see if Roma will be able to match his demands."

The Rome-born midfielder has enjoyed a solid season at the Stadio Olimpico, playing a major role in the Giallorossi's title bid - which they sustained until the final day of the season - as well as contributing to runs to the quarter-final of the Champions League and the final of the Coppa Italia, which they will play against Inter at the weekend.

Aquilani made 28 appearances in total for Roma this season, scoring four times. He has been capped by Italy four times.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 19, 2008, 04:42:23 PM
i see flamini wont be partaking in champions league football next season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 19, 2008, 04:46:07 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 19, 2008, 01:54:14 PM
Premier League - Arsenal in talks with Aquilani
Eurosport - Mon, 19 May 13:46:00 2008

Arsenal are holding talks with Roma midfielder Alberto Aquilani, according to the Italy international's agent.

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger is reportedly keen on recruiting the highly-rated 23-year-old in a bid to fill the gap left following Mathieu Flamini's departure to Milan.

And following comments from Aquilani's agent, Vincenzo Morabito, there appears to be some substance to those reports.

Morabito told Italia Uno: "Aquilani is speaking to Arsenal. We will have to see if Roma will be able to match his demands."

The Rome-born midfielder has enjoyed a solid season at the Stadio Olimpico, playing a major role in the Giallorossi's title bid - which they sustained until the final day of the season - as well as contributing to runs to the quarter-final of the Champions League and the final of the Coppa Italia, which they will play against Inter at the weekend.

Aquilani made 28 appearances in total for Roma this season, scoring four times. He has been capped by Italy four times.



i would rather see them get makoun from lille
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 20, 2008, 09:07:08 AM
Anyone else watch the Cesc Fabregas Show, cringeworthy TV, felt embarrassed for the lad. This however I like..

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=anwlpTgbQTE (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=anwlpTgbQTE)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 21, 2008, 12:46:06 PM
from sky.com

Arsenal are closing in on a triple French swoop with Samir Nasri, Clement Chantome and Francis Coquelin all understood to be on the verge of moving to North London.

First 2 I have heard of the third i dont know anything about. Nasri would hopefully fit into the midfiled nicely. However although Chantome is a centre midfielder dont know will he be ready straight away which is what we need
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on May 21, 2008, 01:42:30 PM
Quote from: ildanach on May 21, 2008, 12:46:06 PM
from sky.com

Arsenal are closing in on a triple French swoop with Samir Nasri, Clement Chantome and Francis Coquelin all understood to be on the verge of moving to North London.

First 2 I have heard of the third i dont know anything about. Nasri would hopefully fit into the midfiled nicely. However although Chantome is a centre midfielder dont know will he be ready straight away which is what we need


Not more Gallic Players - we need a good hard as nails player who will stick it on the line now and again - Chelsea and United have them and the bottom line is they are in Moscow tonight and we arent.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 21, 2008, 04:13:25 PM
Quote from: spiritof91and94 on May 21, 2008, 01:42:30 PM
Quote from: ildanach on May 21, 2008, 12:46:06 PM
from sky.com

Arsenal are closing in on a triple French swoop with Samir Nasri, Clement Chantome and Francis Coquelin all understood to be on the verge of moving to North London.

First 2 I have heard of the third i dont know anything about. Nasri would hopefully fit into the midfiled nicely. However although Chantome is a centre midfielder dont know will he be ready straight away which is what we need


Not more Gallic Players - we need a good hard as nails player who will stick it on the line now and again - Chelsea and United have them and the bottom line is they are in Moscow tonight and we arent.

are you forgetting mssrs petite and viera?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 21, 2008, 11:45:20 PM
Not a bad night's work for Gooners. Cashley wins nowt, Anelka misses penalty, Terry slips, Crynoldo bombs again, Fergie cocks up only for Terry to hand it to him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on May 21, 2008, 11:59:48 PM
What sort of dream land are u in o neill? Ronaldo bombs again, di u even watch the match? Missed penalty is not a bad game, every time he reeicieved a pass in Chelseas half he had essien on toast, as he had sagna by the way but we will not mention that as we are too busy celebrating three stars on utds shirt next season, how manys on arsenals?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2008, 12:03:36 AM
Ronaldo was in Red Square between the 30th and 120th minute. Against Arsenal, he had his worst league game of the year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on May 22, 2008, 12:08:32 AM
Against arsenal he scored twice this season, keep taking the pills o neill, when was the last time an arsenal winger scored 42 goals per season?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2008, 12:12:33 AM
Typical Utd fan - always asking questions. Buy a Rothman's good man.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on May 22, 2008, 12:36:38 AM
No question he did score two goals against arsenal this season and as for the rothmans, taste very nice thank u
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2008, 12:41:11 AM
Jaysus, your side has just won the European Cup. Go celebrate somewhere and stop letting me wind you up.

Fergie, though, to his credit will keep going until his side goes through a league season unbeaten. Don't think he can manage it though. Rooney's stock fairly went down today and I can see Real pulling out of their bid for Crynoldo the seriel big-game flopper.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 22, 2008, 12:15:47 PM
Ronaldo is just a bully, fairly choked on his penalty alright last night. I agree he was terrible against Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on May 22, 2008, 12:24:50 PM

What a header last night. it essetially won the CL for United.

It takes a proper footballer to deliver a goal of that quality on the big occasion. so many before him have choked badly at in the biggest games. Henry and Drogba come to mind.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 22, 2008, 12:42:25 PM
Quote from: Uladh on May 22, 2008, 12:24:50 PM

What a header last night. it essetially won the CL for United.

It takes a proper footballer to deliver a goal of that quality on the big occasion. so many before him have choked badly at in the biggest games. Henry and Drogba come to mind.

strange how rooneys performance last night never came into mind when you were compiling the list!

In fairness Henry was not fit when arsenal played in the champions league final.
Ronaldo did get a great goal last night but after the first 30mins he went missing until extra time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 22, 2008, 12:52:27 PM
QuoteWhat a header last night. it essetially won the CL for United.

What a strange thing to say, maybe it's just me but I think Terry's penalty miss was a little bit more important.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: wherefromreferee? on May 22, 2008, 12:56:02 PM
I just think its great that the above discussion is taking place on this thread  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on May 22, 2008, 01:02:52 PM
QuoteFergie, though, to his credit will keep going until his side goes through a league season unbeaten. Don't think he can manage it though. Rooney's stock fairly went down today and I can see Real pulling out of their bid for Crynoldo the seriel big-game flopper.

Who gives a f**k about going through the season unbeaten if you win the league and champions league.  Ronaldo played well last night, alot better than Terry Henry did against Barcelona - he wasn't fit my hole! 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on May 22, 2008, 01:24:07 PM
In fairness NRico that record of going through a season unbeaten is the finest Premiership achievement whether you like it or not.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2008, 01:28:53 PM
It was. I think Fergie will die with that unease that Wenger produced the most beautiful record ever witnessed that year, during Fergie's tenure. I also thought it was a pity Utd betrayed their footballing heritage inherited from Busby by sitting on their hole in defence for 80 mins, afeard to attack. But I suppose it puts a trophy in the cabinet and keeps the Japs happy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on May 22, 2008, 01:41:07 PM
I would hardly say United were afraid to attack, Chelsea gained the edge in the second half simple as that. 

Minder - I would love United to go unbeaten through a season, but if you win the league without doing so it doesn't make a difference.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on May 22, 2008, 01:47:45 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 22, 2008, 01:41:07 PM
I would hardly say United were afraid to attack, Chelsea gained the edge in the second half simple as that. 

Minder - I would love United to go unbeaten through a season, but if you win the league without doing so it doesn't make a difference.

I think it does, its just United fans are always obsessed with "lists"......"Best supported", "Biggest club" "best premiership season", until a team equals Arsenals unbeaten season there can never be a comparison.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on May 22, 2008, 02:00:49 PM
I didn't know that on the roll of honour (League Titles, FA Cups, Eurpean Cups etc) that there was one for going through a season unbeaten.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on May 22, 2008, 02:03:09 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 22, 2008, 02:00:49 PM
I didn't know that on the roll of honour (League Titles, FA Cups, Eurpean Cups etc) that there was one for going through a season unbeaten.

Where did i say Roll Of Honour? On another point is Tony Baloney in work today or a course again?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on May 22, 2008, 02:23:23 PM

Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 22, 2008, 12:52:27 PM
QuoteWhat a header last night. it essetially won the CL for United.
What a strange thing to say, maybe it's just me but I think Terry's penalty miss was a little bit more important.

And would there have been penalties without CR's goal?

Quote from: ONeill on May 22, 2008, 12:41:11 AM
Go celebrate somewhere and stop letting me wind you up.

Ok.  :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on May 22, 2008, 02:28:58 PM
QuoteI think it does, its just United fans are always obsessed with "lists"......"

In what way is a 'Roll of Honour' not a list?

I take it he is out today again, where is he away?  He has the life of it, nearly as much as you! 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 23, 2008, 07:36:51 PM
Wenger Claims Diarra Panicked

Arsene Wenger believes Lassana Diarra "panicked" when he left Arsenal to join Portsmouth in January, and the Gunners boss has defended his own decision not to strengthen the squad during the transfer window.

The 23-year-old had only been at Emirates Stadium since August following his switch from Chelsea where the midfielder had become frustrated at a perceived lack of first-team opportunities.

However, after 13 appearances for the Gunners, he decided another move was necessary to push his claim for a place in the France squad at Euro 2008 and secured a transfer to Portsmouth, where he would go on to win the FA Cup final at Wembley.

Wenger, though, is in no doubt had the young midfielder shown more "patience", the opportunities would have come his way with the Gunners, especially following the departure of Mathieu Flamini to AC Milan.

"I came to the conclusion that Diarra could not cope with the fact that he was behind the other players here in midfield," said the Gunners boss.

"I thought the best option was to let him go because I already had Denilson, [Abou] Diaby and Gilberto all trying to get into the team as well. It was a congestion."

Wenger told the June edition of the official Arsenal magazine: "I bought Diarra in the summer because I thought Flamini might leave at the end of the season and if he was able to be patient, he would get his chance.

"It turned out he wasn't capable of that. With Euro 2008 in mind, he panicked.

"I did explain when he joined that he might have to be patient, and he acknowledged it, but he couldn't cope with the situation, and also did not want to go on loan anywhere either."

Wenger insisted his decision not to bolster the squad during January was a sound one, given the position his team were then in, standing two points clear of Manchester United at the top of the Premier League after the final matches of 2007.

However, the Arsenal manager could not envisage the way the season would quickly unravel following injury to key men Eduardo da Silva, Tomas Rosicky and Robin van Persie while main marksman Emmanuel Adebayor suddenly hit a goal drought.

"The transfer window was open, but at the time I didn't feel we were in need of any more players," reflected Wenger, whose young squad would eventually finish third and exit the Champions League in the quarter-finals to Liverpool.

"We had [Theo] Walcott and [Nicklas] Bendtner making big strides forward, and Eduardo was on form then and Adebayor on top form too. Overall when he is on fire, he scores in every game.

"I thought van Persie would be back shortly, and also did not expect to lose Rosicky for so long either."

Wenger maintained: "You have to keep the balance right between having competition in the squad, and having too many players. The squad did not look light at any time."

Just what shape Arsenal will be in for the start of next season remains to be seen.

With Flamini already gone, speculation continues that winger Alexander Hleb will soon follow him out of Emirates Stadium, with Real Madrid and Inter said to be leading the chase.

Meanwhile, reports in Italy claim Roma are ready to move for veteran Brazilian Gilberto, who saw his impact limited last season and is entering the final 12 months of his existing deal.

His compatriot Robinho, at Real Madrid, could be one potential target for Wenger, who is awaiting an answer on the club's move for Samir Nasri as the Marseille playmaker weighs up his options while Cameroon international midfielder Jean II Makoun is said to be ready to quit Lille for the chance to play in England, with the Emirates Stadium his preferred destination.

Arsenal, though, look set to continue to invest in youth.

A deal for France Under-17 international Francis Coquelin is expected to be concluded before the European Championships, while Cardiff's highly-rated teenager Aaron Ramsey is said to be another on Wenger's radar.

Yahoo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 28, 2008, 09:26:17 PM
I hear Flamini has been dropped from the France panel for the Euros......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on May 28, 2008, 09:38:31 PM
glad he was, he'll get very little football at AC cos they have a pile of defensive midfielders! only reason he went was cos arsenal only offered 55grand a week and he'll probably get 75 in italy for sitting on the bench...greedy cnut!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on May 28, 2008, 09:41:41 PM
Clichy not selected either, is that not quite a surprise. Would put Evra ahead of him, but it's close and surely Clichy has been a better performer than Abidal.
Trezeguet another casualty.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 28, 2008, 09:48:28 PM
QuoteClichy not selected either

Didn't even make the provisional 30, close call but he'd be fairly inexperienced at international level.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 28, 2008, 09:58:04 PM
Happy to see Clichy not making it. Badly needed a rest. Also happy to see Flamini dropped. Don't know why as I still have some affection for Cole who left in even more greedy circumstances. Maybe because he was only there since '04.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 28, 2008, 10:10:44 PM
QuoteDon't know why as I still have some affection for Cole who left in even more greedy circumstances

Shocked, Cashley is the epitomy of the greedy premiership footballer and while I am never wishing him harm I do find myself bitterly disappointed anytime I see him in a Chelsea shirt.

Agree about Clichy and I think Flamini will realise soon enough what a mistake it was to leave.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 28, 2008, 10:24:30 PM
I just can't forget Cole's 7 years at Arsenal though - 2 titles, 3 cups - and he was a key player who gave his all for the cause.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on May 28, 2008, 10:25:44 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 28, 2008, 10:24:30 PM
I just can't forget Cole's 7 years at Arsenal though - 2 titles, 3 cups - and he was a key player who gave his all for the cause.

Ill go one step further and say he was my favourite. He always gave it everything.

For some reason I hate what he did,in a completely irrational way.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 28, 2008, 10:28:52 PM
I still can't believe what Cole said in his book. If he had of said it in an interview off the cuff I'd of understood, but surely an advisor or his agent or someone would've said, Ashley you might want to re-evaluate that bit! Did he not realise how it would look?

The only thing in his favour is that at least he gives it 100% on the pitch, and wants to earn his money.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on May 28, 2008, 10:54:12 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 28, 2008, 10:28:52 PM
I still can't believe what Cole said in his book.

What did he say?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 28, 2008, 11:17:16 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on May 28, 2008, 10:54:12 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 28, 2008, 10:28:52 PM
I still can't believe what Cole said in his book.

What did he say?

Can't remember exactly but something about he was offered a new deal worth about 55k a week, and then the club went back and said they were only offering 50k. Ashley had a whole chapter lamenting this, and the way he was treated.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 28, 2008, 11:44:10 PM
I think he said he nearly crashed his car........when he heard Arsenal were 5000 less.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on May 29, 2008, 02:41:28 AM
Hate him even more now >:( >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Shrewdness on May 29, 2008, 12:06:24 PM
Reported that the Nasri deal is done. Any of you boys able to confirm or deny.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 29, 2008, 02:01:03 PM
from the bbc

Arsenal insist reports they have signed Marseille midfielder Samir Nasri for £12.5m are premature. (Press Association, 1301 BST)

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Shrewdness on June 03, 2008, 10:59:38 AM
Seems like bad news for Arsenal on the transfer front. The signing of Nasri is in jeopardy. Apparently, due to Arsenal's strict wage structure, the wages on offer to Nasri are not acceptable, and the transfer is hanging in the balance. The deal may now be on hold until after Euro 2008.

Also, strong word today that Hleb will be joining Barcelona later this week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 03, 2008, 01:24:41 PM
Flamini recalled?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on June 03, 2008, 01:49:26 PM

Back in the squad as cover in case viera doesn't recover from injury
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 03, 2008, 09:20:06 PM

Bundesliga - Lehmann joins Stuttgart

Eurosport - Tue, 03 Jun 17:36:00 2008

Jens Lehmann has finally left Arsenal and signed a one-year deal with German side Stuttgart.


The 38-year-old finalised the move before flying to Mallorca with the Germany squad to begin their Euro 2008 preparations.

Lehmann made 147 appearances for the Gunners after joining in 2003 from Borussia Dortmund.

After replacing David Seaman, he won the title in his first season when he played every game of Arsenal's unbeaten league campaign. He also won the FA Cup the following season.

Stuttgart require a new goalkeeper after Raphael Schafer, who was signed from Nurnberg last summer, failed to live up to expectations.

Stuttgart, who finished sixth in the Bundesliga, have offered an option for a second year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 03, 2008, 09:49:31 PM
yahoo Germany

Jens Lehmann becomes Swabian. The national goalkeeper plays starting from the coming season for the VfB Stuttgart. The 38-Jährige comes to long Hickhack replace-free from the FC arsenal London to the Neckar, where it receives an a annual contract up to the end of the play time 2008/2009. With " Gunners" Lehmann did not fit any longer into the concept of coach Arsene Wenger, which degradierte the Keeper to the number two and referred to the spare bank. " I know Jens Lehmann already for many years and am of it convinced that he has still the fire in itself, maximum performances too bringen" , VfB Sportdirektor explained refuge Heldt opposite Spiegel online, which made the deal with Lehmann clear finally. Preference for the VfB The association was in the search for a new goal keeper, after master goal keeper Raphael shepherd was pushed after disappointing conceptions to the end the federal league season on the siding. " Jens Lehmann was from the beginning our Wunschkandidat" , Stuttgart coach Armin Veh meant. Lehmann praised the discussions with the Swabians as " much angenehm". " I look forward to the VfB and the Bundesliga" , said the Routinier, which referred the EM-accomodation at the beginning of the week with the national team. Silence over contract details Lehmann had expressed its preference already last for the VfB, which already made itself two weeks ago ago on the search for a replacement for after for only one season superseded shepherd. " The VfB is led respectablly, has a good crew, the attractive football plays and logically a good Trainer" , so the national goalkeeper, who denied altogether 55 international matches and since the WM 2006 mastergate-waits the DFB selection is. Before its change to the FC arsenal played the native Essener for the FC Schalke 04 and Borussia Dortmund (329 Bundesliga-Spiele/2 of gates). Over contract details Lehmanns agreed upon with the Swabians are however with approximately two million euro to lie with sides silence, the annual salary. " In addition we generally give no information. Jens Lehmann called today the other associations, which were likewise interested in an obligation, and we parallel the last details off with its lawyer besprochen" , so Heldt. The conclusion man had lost his master place with arsenal to the Spaniard Manuel Almunia. Altogether Lehmann, which completed 1998/99 also five plays for the AC Milan in the season, stood with which " Gunners" 147-mal between the posts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on June 04, 2008, 11:28:16 AM
Quote from: Shrewdness on June 03, 2008, 10:59:38 AM
Seems like bad news for Arsenal on the transfer front. The signing of Nasri is in jeopardy. Apparently, due to Arsenal's strict wage structure, the wages on offer to Nasri are not acceptable, and the transfer is hanging in the balance. The deal may now be on hold until after Euro 2008.

Also, strong word today that Hleb will be joining Barcelona later this week.

Think the nasri deal will go through on the after euro 08. He was supposed to go for a medical at the weekend but logistics prevented it
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on June 04, 2008, 01:54:16 PM
Sagna signs new long-term contract with Arsenal
Arsenal Football Club is delighted to announce that Bacary Sagna has signed a new long-term contract with the Club.

Sagna ,25, who joined Arsenal from French side Auxerre last summer, impressed greatly in his first season with Club, making a total of 40 appearances, before his season was unfortunately cut short as a result of an ankle injury.

Bacary's great performances last season did not go unnoticed as he was voted into the PFA Team of the Year by his fellow professionals.

Everyone at the Club is looking forward to Bacary's continued contribution in the forthcoming years.

[ Wednesday, June 04, 2008]

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=492226&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Sagna+signs+new+long-term+contract+with+Arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 04, 2008, 03:04:37 PM
I dont have a good feeling about signing nasri and selling hleb i think hleb is the kind of player arsenal are all about.
wat about niko krancjar from portsmouth he seems to be quality.
Glad to see sagna getting a new contract, arsenal's player of the season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on June 04, 2008, 05:32:32 PM
this stupid cnut of a wage cap that arsenal have is going to put alot of players off coming! what is the max wage they will pay per week? 55grand?

glad sagna has resigned, great player

i've said before i dont rate hleb, never does it on the big day, and he's going to go to madrid or somewhere and sit on the bench all yr like flamini!

need a keeper, couple of defenders and midfielders signed!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 04, 2008, 05:46:03 PM
I wish more clubs had a wage cap....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 04, 2008, 10:19:06 PM
i think we need one very big name signing but knowing wenger he'd rather make which i have no problem but we've plenty of funds go out and buy Kaka or someone like that just take the risk.
A trusted centre back wouldn go a miss bcuz senderos is poor
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 04, 2008, 10:43:37 PM
What's the betting Senderos is player of the tournament....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 23, 2008, 07:18:46 PM

Premier League - Arsenal complete Nasri signing

Eurosport - Mon, 23 Jun 18:44:00 2008

According to the player, who turns 21 on Thursday, he joins the Gunners for a fee of £16.8 million after completing a medical with the north London side last week.

A statement on the player's personal website reads: "We inform you that Samir won't be an Olympique de Marseille player next season and that he has signed a four-year contract with London club Arsenal."

Arsenal themselves are yet to officially announce the deal.

The acquisition is Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger's second of the close-season, following the capture of teenager Arron Ramsey from Cardiff City for £5 million.

The deal was delayed while Nasri was at Euro 2008 with the France squad. The versatile winger, who can play on both flanks, made two appearances, both as a substitute.

Nasri holds the dubious distinction of being taken off in the same match as being brought on at the tournament, during the crunch Group C match against Italy.

He replaced the injured Franck Ribery after just 10 minutes of that 2-0 defeat, only to be substituted himself 15 minutes later when manager Raymond Domenech brought on defender Jean-Alain Boumsong after Eric Abidal was sent off.

Nasri was voted Marseille's player of the year by the club's fans at the end of the 2006/2007 season, and scored six goals in 30 appearances last term.

The signing is another strong indication that Alexander Hleb is leaving the club, as Arsenal will now be more willing to let his much-touted move to Inter Milan go through.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on June 23, 2008, 09:34:15 PM
O'Neill dont do a fearon on it and curse the move. Nothing is confirmed yet!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 23, 2008, 10:23:57 PM
Here are the squad numbers in full:

1. Manuel ALMUNIA
2. Abou DIABY
3. Bacary SAGNA
4. Francesc FABREGAS
5. Kolo TOURE
6. Philippe SENDEROS
7. Tomas ROSICKY
8.
9. EDUARDO
10. William GALLAS
11. Robin VAN PERSIE
12. Carlos VELA
13. Alexander HLEB
14.
15. DENILSON
16. Aaron RAMSEY
17. Alexandre SONG
18.
19. GILBERTO
20. Johan DJOUROU
21. Lukasz FABIANSKI
22. Gael CLICHY
23.
24. Vito MANNONE
25. Emmanuel ADEBAYOR
26. Nicklas BENDTNER
27. Emmanuel EBOUE
28.
29.
30. Armand TRAORE
31. Justin HOYTE
32. Theo WALCOTT
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on June 25, 2008, 12:44:32 PM
Hopefully the Nasri signing will be completed today....According to Sky Sports the Marseille chairman has conceded that a deal was immenent....

Sort of glad we didn't see too much of him at the Euro's...If he was really good it would have knocked his price up a lot.....plus he will be relatively fresh.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 25, 2008, 07:49:08 PM
im guessin what the papers are saying about Silva the spanish winger being linked as Hlebs replacement is pure shit, seeing we've got Nasri??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on June 27, 2008, 02:09:40 PM
from bbc.co.uk

Emmanuel Adebayor has ended speculation about his immediate future by announcing he is staying at Arsenal.

The Togo striker, who scored 30 goals in 48 games for Arsenal last season, has been a target for both Italian side AC Milan and Catalan club Barcelona.

But the 24-year-old said in Vienna: "I am an Arsenal player and have three years left on my contract.

"The most important thing for me is to keep on enjoying my football. I'm staying at Arsenal."

AC Milan, who signed Mathieu Flamini from the Gunners in May, had previously announced that Adebayor was their only other target this summer. 

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger has also been in Austria for the European Championship, but has not spoken to Adebayor about the player's future.

Should talks ever take place over a move, the former Monaco striker insisted money would not be a factor.

"When I was young I had a dream to be a good footballer and play for a big team," said Adebayor, who was in Vienna with his sponsors.

"I was born in Togo so I never cared about playing for money, my happiness was to play to enjoy myself. That's what I've been doing until now.

"You can see people changing clubs because of money, because they want a change of atmosphere or to get their names in the big leagues. I just play football to enjoy myself. I play because I love it."


good to see a bit of loyalty. Maybe hleb will will show some too!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 27, 2008, 04:32:37 PM
Bollox. I'd hoped he was going.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on June 27, 2008, 05:48:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 27, 2008, 04:32:37 PM
Bollox. I'd hoped he was going.
???
and where were the goals going to come from our new no 14 theo???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 28, 2008, 12:46:46 AM
Adebayor is a poor man's Drogba. His value is highest now. Cash in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Malone Aristocrat on June 28, 2008, 08:24:47 AM

I agree, bleed them for every penny before they realise how mediocre ade is.

arsene will be thinking the same
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 28, 2008, 10:11:59 AM
Did you hear Adebayor yesterday saying he thought he was worth 40m or 47m. Had to laugh. If Arsene got 20m, spash out on 2 decent players, one to complement Van Persie, Walcott, Bentner and Eduardo and the other a defensive midfielder.

Adebayor is mostly a donkey who hits a purple patch once in a while.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiff breeze on June 28, 2008, 10:47:09 AM
Quote from: ONeill on June 28, 2008, 10:11:59 AM
Did you hear Adebayor yesterday saying he thought he was worth 40m or 47m. Had to laugh. If Arsene got 20m, spash out on 2 decent players, one to complement Van Persie, Walcott, Bentner and Eduardo and the other a defensive midfielder.

Adebayor is mostly a donkey who hits a purple patch once in a while.

why buy 2 decent players to compliment the bench warmers you named?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 28, 2008, 10:55:48 AM
They'll not be bench warmers this year. That's the way Wenger works. He rarely thrusts young players straight in, usually spending 24 months as bit-part players until they get the green light. I'm expecting Bendtner to start alongside RvP with Walcott winger. However, with Robin so injury prone, he needs another top class striker. Eduardo'll probably not get back to near his best til late season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 28, 2008, 11:01:06 AM
I see Lehmann says he's proud to represent the Arse tomorrow in the final

Jaysus Mad Jens, don't say that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 28, 2008, 11:01:36 AM
if adebayor goes we need to buy a top striker, adebayor is a very good overall striker but you can't trust him to score when one on one it usualy takes a few chances. Bendtner is cat and he needs to go.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on June 28, 2008, 11:43:11 AM
Quote from: ONeill on June 28, 2008, 10:11:59 AM
Did you hear Adebayor yesterday saying he thought he was worth 40m or 47m. Had to laugh. If Arsene got 20m, spash out on 2 decent players, one to complement Van Persie, Walcott, Bentner and Eduardo and the other a defensive midfielder.

Adebayor is mostly a donkey who hits a purple patch once in a while.
i cann't agree with you there. He got 30 odd goals last season. He was a donkey when he came first but has developed into a good striker. He gave us real options up front in the post henry era. If he goes where will the goals come from persie is injury prone, bentner couldn't hit a barn door, eduardo might not be the same player he was and theo is over rated.
If he does go and we have 24 or 25 million to spend who is available peter crouch, santa cruz ?? not in the same league  as adebayorand wouldn't give 10million for either. leaving 15 million for a defensive midfielder. which i agree we do need to get pronto. But we have that money already so why not have our cake and eat it!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Malone Aristocrat on June 28, 2008, 12:48:52 PM

santa cruz is a better all round striker than ade. with the supply arsenal would give him he'd score bucket fulls
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 28, 2008, 01:08:41 PM
We'll agree to disagree on Adebayor. I don't rate him - the majority of last year's goals were set on a plate by Fabregas and Hleb for him. I think his general attitude stinks when the chips are down and some of his decisions when put clean through were beyond belief. His mouthing off to the press this week sums up what I always suspected of him

Walcott is only overrated by those who think he's the new Maradona! His form improved dramatically over the last 10 games last year and I expect him to kick on. Bendtner has the potential but this year will tell a tale.

Eduardo was starting to show the speed and guile needed to finish off the good work weaved by our midfield and it's a striker in that mould that'll see Arsenal reach the next level.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on June 28, 2008, 11:25:27 PM
Do you think the now infamous derogatory chant directed at him mainly by Spurs & Chelsea fans has had anything to do with his requesting a transfer?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 29, 2008, 12:33:32 AM
Did he request a transfer?
What was the song?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on June 29, 2008, 01:25:14 PM
QuoteWhat was the song?

Adebayor, Adebayor, his dad washes elephants, his mothers a wh*re.   Racism thinly veiled as humour
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 29, 2008, 06:30:56 PM
Quote from: under the bar on June 29, 2008, 01:25:14 PM
QuoteWhat was the song?

Adebayor, Adebayor, his dad washes elephants, his mothers a wh*re.   Racism thinly veiled as humour

So he has handed in a transfer request because of racism....and heading to Italy?  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 02, 2008, 02:33:10 PM


QuoteArsenal are demanding over £35m for Emmanuel Adebayor, according to AC Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani.

He says the deal is too rich for Milan's blood, with Italian teams struggling to compete with Chelsea and Barcelona for the world's top players.

The Gunners are reported to have turned down a £25m bid from Barcelona for the Togo striker, with Galliani suggesting that Arsenal are looking for another £10m.

"Adebayor is overridden by continuous requests for €45 million (£35.6 m), these figures are impossible for clubs in Italy," said Galliani. "In fact, the top footballers in the world do not come here anymore.

"When big clubs like Barcelona and Chelsea arrive it is impossible to compete, because they have a much more advantageous fiscal situation."

According to a number of reports, Barcelona's bid was turned down yesterday, although it is distinctly possible that the Spanish giants will make an improved offer given the need of Joan Laporta, the club's president, to make a significant splash in the transfer market before he faces a vote of no-confidence from members at the weekend.

A bid of £30m could actually be sufficient to persuade Arsenal to sell Adebayor, especially as he continues to request a hefty wage rise. According to The Times, 'During all his discussions with the club, Adebayor has told Arsenal, where he has three years left on his contract, that he wants to stay, but that they must keep to a promise of a new deal as a reward for an outstanding season.'

The African is understood to be paid around £35,000 a week. While that is a fortune in most people's eyes, it is a relative pittance in Premier League terms.

Moreover, Adebayor would be entitled to expect his salary to reflect Arsenal's valuation of his services. Were he to be sold for £30m, the transfer would be the sixth largest in the history of football.

Adebayor is not due to return to Arsenal to begin pre-season training until the end of the month, although his agent Stéphane Courbis is expected to meet with Arsene Wenger this week. Speaking to The Times, Courbis indicated that a pay rise would persuade Adebayor to stay in north London, remarking: "It is important for Emmanuel that Arsenal show their motivation to keep him. Whatever they will decide, the decision will be taken with respect."

If Wenger gets £35m for Adebayor, it will be an astonishing piece of business and an offer he can't refuse. I'm undecided to as whether Ade is a  Drogba or an Andy Cole and this season if he stays will show his true worth.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 02, 2008, 02:56:08 PM
Take the feckin 25m.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 03, 2008, 11:40:06 PM
Those were the days:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gx_uKCsNwlc&feature=related

Great wee song at the end.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 04, 2008, 06:58:55 PM
Televised Games 08/09 Premier League
July 4, 2008
Sky/Setanta Televised live fixtures for the season 2008/09.

Sat Aug 16 12.45pm Sky – Arsenal v West Brom
Sat Aug 16 5.15pm Setanta – Sunderland v Liverpool
Sun Aug 17 1.30pm Sky – Chelsea v Portsmouth
Sun Aug 17 4.00pm Sky – Man Utd v Newcastle
Sat Aug 23 12.45pm Sky – Man City v West Ham
Sat Aug 23 5.15pm Setanta – Fulham v Arsenal (Liverpool v Middlesbrough if blocked by police)
Sun Aug 24 1.30pm Sky – Wigan v Chelsea
Sun Aug 24 4.00pm Sky – Portsmouth v Man Utd
Sat Aug 30 12.45pm Sky – West Ham v Blackburn
Sat Aug 30 5.15pm Setanta – Everton v Portsmouth
Sun Aug 31 1.30pm Setanta – Aston Villa v Liverpool
Sun Aug 31 4.00pm Sky – Chelsea v Tottenham
Sat Sep 13 12.45 Sky – Liverpool v Man Utd
Sat Sep 13 5.15 Setanta – Man City v Chelsea
Sun Sep 14 4.00pm Sky – Tottenham v Aston Villa
Mon Sep 15 8.00pm Setanta – West Brom v West Ham
Sat Sep 20 12.45pm Sky – Bolton v Arsenal
Sat Sep 20 5.15pm Setanta – Sunderland v Middlesbrough (West Ham v Newcastle if blocked by police)
Sun Sep 21 1.30pm Sky – West Brom v Aston Villa
Sun Sep 21 4.00pm Sky – Chelsea v Man Utd
Sat Sep 27 12.45pm Sky – Everton v Liverpool
Sat Sep 27 5.15pm Setanta – Stoke v Chelsea
Sun Sep 28 4.00pm Sky – Portsmouth v Tottenham
Mon Sep 29 8.00pm Setanta – Fulham v West Ham
Sat Oct 4 12.45pm Sky – West Ham v Bolton
Sat Oct 4 5.15pm Setanta – Blackburn v Man Utd
Sun Oct 5 1.30pm Sky – Everton v Newcastle
Sun Oct 5 4.00pm Sky – Man City v Liverpool
Sat Oct 18 12.45pm Sky – Arsenal v Everton
Sat Oct 18 5.15pm Setanta – Middlesbrough v Chelsea
Sun Oct 19 4.00pm Sky – Aston Villa v Portsmouth
Mon Oct 20 8.00pm Setanta – Hull v West Ham
Sat Oct 25 12.45pm Sky – Sunderland v Newcastle
Sun Oct 26 12.00pm Setanta – Portsmouth v Fulham (Sunday as after UEFA cup game)
Sun Oct 26 2.00pm Sky – Everton v Man Utd (West Ham v Arsenal if blocked by police)
Sun Oct 26 4.10pm Sky – Chelsea v Liverpool
Tue Oct 28 8.00pm Sky – Newcastle v West Brom
Wed Oct 29 8.00pm Sky – Arsenal v Tottenham
Sat Nov 1 12.45pm Sky – Tottenham v Liverpool
Sat Nov 1 5.15pm Setanta – Stoke v Arsenal
Sun Nov 2 4.00pm Sky – Newcastle v Aston Villa
Mon Nov 3 8.00pm Setanta – Bolton v Man City
Sat Nov 8 12.45pm Sky – Blackburn v Chelsea
Sat Nov 8 5.15pm Setanta – Man City v Tottenham
Sun Nov 9 1.30pm Sky – Sunderland v Portsmouth
Sun Nov 9 4.00pm Sky – Arsenal v Man Utd
Sat Nov 15 12.45pm Sky – Hull v Man City
Sat Nov 15 5.15pm Setanta – Arsenal v Aston Villa
Sun Nov 16 1.30pm Sky – Fulham v Tottenham
Sun Nov 16 4.00pm Sky – West Brom v Chelsea
Sat Nov 22 12.45pm Sky – Man City v Arsenal
Sat Nov 22 5.15pm Setanta – Aston Villa v Man Utd
Sun Nov 23 4.00pm Sky – Tottenham v Blackburn
Mon Nov 24 8.00pm Setanta – Sunderland v West Ham
Sat Nov 29 12.45pm Sky – Middlesbrough v Newcastle
Sun Nov 30 1.30pm Setanta – Man City v Man Utd
Sun Nov 30 4.00pm Sky – Chelsea v Arsenal
Mon Dec 1 8.00pm Setanta – Tottenham v Everton
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 04, 2008, 11:11:59 PM
I hear there was a hoax TV schedule doing the rounds yesterday on the night, so not sure if yours is right or not Shane.
Hope not, as I am working a lot of the TV games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on July 11, 2008, 09:47:01 AM

Nasri agrees to join Arsenal from Marseille
French international midfielder Samir Nasri has agreed to join Arsenal from Olympique Marseille on a long-term contract for an undisclosed fee.

Nasri (21), who made two appearances for France in Euro 2008, was voted as the French Ligue 1 'Young Player of the Year' for 2006/07 and was also Olympique Marseille's Player of the Year for 2007.

Nasri, has made twelve appearances (scoring twice) for the French national team, making his debut for his country in March 2007 in the 1-0 friendly win over Austria. He was also a French Under-21 international and part of the French Under-17s who won the European Championships in 2004.

The young attacking midfielder made 145 appearances (scoring 11 goals) for Olympique Marseille, during which time he won the UEFA Intertoto Cup in 2005, was a French Cup runner-up in 2006 and 2007 and helped his side into third place in Ligue 1 last season, thus securing a UEFA Champions League place for next season.

Manager Arsène Wenger said: "We are delighted to be signing Samir Nasri. He is young, quick and technically an outstanding player. He has shown great potential with his performances for Marseille and the French national team over the past two seasons and he will add great quality to our squad."

Nasri added: "I'm very happy to become an Arsenal player, it means such a lot to me. This is a very important step in my life as a football player because Arsenal is a massive club. I really hope everything will go well for me here. I will do my best for Arsenal and its fans and I am honoured to be part of such a great football club."

Samir Nasri is due to join up with his new Arsenal team mates for pre-season training on 21st July

http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=493818&lid=NewsHeadline&Title (http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=493818&lid=NewsHeadline&Title)

Finally this transfer is complete.

It's good to see Arsenal bring in a new player as opposed to all the current rumours about players leaving
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on July 16, 2008, 01:23:54 PM
from the beeb

Arsenal's Belarus midfield man Alexander Hleb is undergoing a medical at Barcelona on Wednesday ahead of an £11.9m move to the Nou Camp.

Barcelona confirmed the deal for the 27-year-old on the club website and he arrives as Ronaldinho travels to Italy for a medical at AC Milan.

Hleb had been linked with Inter Milan, but Barcelona have won the race.

Arsenal have also lost Matthieu Flamini to AC Milan and Gilberto Silva is poised to sign for Panathinaikos.

Barcelona have announced that Hleb will have medical tests throughout Wednesday and is expected to sign a contract on Thursday.

Barcelona vice-president Marc Ingla confirmed in June that they were in talks to sign Hleb, saying: "Barcelona's negotiations with Hleb are still in progress.

"But despite him being a player with special qualities, if his club are not ready to sell him, we have other options in mind."

Hleb's departure from the Emirates Stadium has seemed likely all summer after the player admitted he was "mentally tired" of the combination of living in London and playing top-level football.

He joined Arsenal in 2005 after the club paid Stuttgart £11.2m for his services, and if he signs he will become Barcelona's fifth summer signing following the arrivals of Seydou Keita, Gerard Pique, Martin Caceres and Daniel Alves


not big profit on the sale but a profit all the same. Lets hope nasri can fill the void. We need more goals from mdfield ala pires and freddie
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on July 16, 2008, 01:42:33 PM
Quote from: ildanach on July 16, 2008, 01:23:54 PM


not big profit on the sale but a profit all the same. Lets hope nasri can fill the void. We need more goals from mdfield ala pires and freddie


Do any of ye think that Nasri and Cesc are very similar players.  Will they be able to play in the same team or has Wenger another role planned for Nasri in the same way he moved Henry from the wing?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on July 16, 2008, 04:31:54 PM
i think he will play him on the wing as he can play either through the centre or out there. Dont think he will be an  out and out winger though e.g overmars but more a player who will tuck in when needed to link play. Hopefully he will chip in with a few goals though as they have been like hens teeth from midfield over the last few years
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 16, 2008, 07:46:32 PM
Mixed feelings about Hleb leaving. Loved watching him play - sort of a schoolyard approach, dribbling around 3-4 players and then doing it again. However, his stats were atrocious and was a bit of a luxury when it was backs to the wall. Replacing Pires still haunts AW.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on July 16, 2008, 11:12:17 PM
im the same as o'neill, still dont know how wenger is going to replace all these midfielders the has sold, no holding player now that flamini and silva are gone, nasri will come in but is more attacking, think barry would be a good addition but ideal player would be senna that played for spain, a younger model of makalele and knows exactly how cesc plays. will be interesting to see how rosicky fits in after long lay off with injury..hope Van Persie stays fit as i think he has the potential to rip teams apart, like bergkamp what he lacks in pace he makes up in awareness and doing the unexpected.

what about the defence...will arsene contine to play gallas and toure...id prefer to see gallas out of the centre but clichy and sagna have made the wing back rolls their own and senderos needs to be got rid of wether its released on a free or sacked for being rubbish!also what about goalkeepers...we have almunia but who is the back up now that the mad german is away..

alot of questions for arsenal fans to think about though i honestly dont think arsene would let players go if he didnt think he could replace them!

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on July 17, 2008, 02:38:53 PM
Quote from: hitzelsperger on July 16, 2008, 11:12:17 PM
im the same as o'neill, still dont know how wenger is going to replace all these midfielders the has sold, no holding player now that flamini and silva are gone, nasri will come in but is more attacking, think barry would be a good addition but ideal player would be senna that played for spain, a younger model of makalele and knows exactly how cesc plays. will be interesting to see how rosicky fits in after long lay off with injury..hope Van Persie stays fit as i think he has the potential to rip teams apart, like bergkamp what he lacks in pace he makes up in awareness and doing the unexpected.

what about the defence...will arsene contine to play gallas and toure...id prefer to see gallas out of the centre but clichy and sagna have made the wing back rolls their own and senderos needs to be got rid of wether its released on a free or sacked for being rubbish!also what about goalkeepers...we have almunia but who is the back up now that the mad german is away..

alot of questions for arsenal fans to think about though i honestly dont think arsene would let players go if he didnt think he could replace them!



Younger, but not by much. According to WSC he is 32.

Edit: Just wiki'd him. He's 32 today. Happy Birthday dear Marcos, happy birthday to you.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on July 17, 2008, 05:47:36 PM
gilberto & hleb both gone on the one day.ENOUGH IS ENOUGH THE SUMMER SALE HAS TO FINISH TODAY!! We need to sign 2 midfielders & a centre back and a keeper to challenge for the title next season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 17, 2008, 06:57:37 PM
Good man Gilberto. A rock in the Invincibles. Good luck and thanks for the service.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywzn18ihtsc
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on July 18, 2008, 12:01:22 AM

AHEM......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 18, 2008, 12:48:33 AM
Yes, but shit 07/08.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 19, 2008, 01:50:49 PM
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=14912&part=sports

First game of season v Barnet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on July 19, 2008, 03:42:15 PM
What division is Barnet in ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 20, 2008, 12:12:28 AM
Arse 2 Barnet 1

Goals:

http://101greatgoals.magnify.net/item/LDYCDZSTRT79842W
http://101greatgoals.magnify.net/item/TCN0JKV6HJSDKKKG
http://101greatgoals.magnify.net/item/6HK9CFT8CR68KP6X
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Yes I Would on July 20, 2008, 12:26:44 AM
Yis can add a new keeper to the shopping list as well!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 22, 2008, 10:07:05 AM
Tough test today against Szombathelyi Haladás of Hungary. Haladás is the Hungarian word for progress which spells danger in my book.
The picture on their home page ( http://haladasfc.nyugat.hu/ ) looks a bit intimidating.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 22, 2008, 10:19:23 AM
Martin Keown - still a laugh a minute.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/22072008/58/60-seconds-martin-keown.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 22, 2008, 05:43:02 PM
Walcott, Bendtner, Denilson, Sagna, Ramsey and Clichy (capt) playing.

Nerves destroying me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 22, 2008, 05:59:46 PM
1-0 down. A wonderful mix-up between the Hoyte Brothers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 22, 2008, 06:36:05 PM
1-1. Walcott. Seems to be in good shape. Could be worth a few early fantasy points.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on July 23, 2008, 01:10:54 PM
i read toure has malaria, we need a cente back pronto, i coan not bear the though of the season starting with senderos at the back!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on July 23, 2008, 04:17:33 PM
i honestly dont know how senderos has lasted so long and played so many games under wenger..he is slow, always seems to panic on the ball and is slow to react to situations...if toure is out for a while we are fcuked..djurou, song, the hoytes, no where near good enuf to play at the top level so wenger has to see that signings are needed!

i hope theo can show doubters (including myself) what hes made of this year, after that run against liverpool i dont see why he cant do it week in week out in the league, pace like his scares the shité out of defenders!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on July 24, 2008, 06:33:36 AM
Was just reading a bit about Hlebs departure there. Now I wouldnt claim to know much about transfers and so on, but surely 600 thousand pounds of profit of the sale of a player of his quality - to a club like barcelona is bad business in any language. Its almost like paying the same about of money for Darren Bent as for Thierry Henry. Hleb was bought for 11.2 million in 05 and at 27 years old was sold to barca for 11.8.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 25, 2008, 06:54:41 PM
I think Arsenal stand to make a good few million more depending on appearances.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on July 25, 2008, 09:02:26 PM
 
New Arsenal away kit – Anfield '89 20th Anniversary
http://onlinestore.arsenal.com/






Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 28, 2008, 08:33:58 AM
Burgenland XI v Arsenal today. Not a fast-food select, but an Austrian select.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: kinghen on July 28, 2008, 01:29:40 PM
Quote from: hitzelsperger on July 23, 2008, 04:17:33 PM
i honestly dont know how senderos has lasted so long and played so many games under wenger..he is slow, always seems to panic on the ball and is slow to react to situations...if toure is out for a while we are fcuked..djurou, song, the hoytes, no where near good enuf to play at the top level so wenger has to see that signings are needed!

i hope theo can show doubters (including myself) what hes made of this year, after that run against liverpool i dont see why he cant do it week in week out in the league, pace like his scares the shité out of defenders!

i was a doubter of young theo myself, however i have high hopes for him this season, alas i dont think him tryin to run the pitch solo, ala against liverpool, is the answer, too often he takes one touch too many and loses it in the tackle, beating 2 men is no use if he loses it tryin to beat the 3rd! i think playing 1-2's withe the like of fabregas and getting him in behind defenders is the key, hopefully we see more of him gettin to the end line and squaring it for a tap-in, eg ade's goal against milan!!

re;senderos, i can only assume that this is stubborness on wengers part, tryin to prove that he will come good, i really do think that he should just listen to the critics and get rid of this kryton *sp* lookalike waste of space!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 28, 2008, 04:11:28 PM
Senderos was terrific in Arsenal's run to the CL final in 2006 - I think Arsenal set a record then for clean sheets. He was also performing heroics for the Swiss then. An injury and he has never really recovered that sharpness.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiff breeze on July 28, 2008, 04:28:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 28, 2008, 04:11:28 PM
Senderos was terrific in Arsenal's run to the CL final in 2006 - I think Arsenal set a record then for clean sheets. He was also performing heroics for the Swiss then. An injury and he has never really recovered that sharpness.

cant believe there is only 1 club interested in him. He is such a talent.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 28, 2008, 06:10:43 PM
5-0 up after 29 mins. Should've been 8. Wouldn't like to be a Burgenlander tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 28, 2008, 06:12:23 PM
6-0 31 mins. Think of the children. Bendtner hattrick
Title: Fibreglass Rejects Exit Spec....
Post by: Niall Quinn on July 29, 2008, 03:17:42 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7529194.stm
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 30, 2008, 08:56:11 AM
Finished 10-2 that game.

First decent opposition tonight in Stuttgart with Mad Jens in goals for his new club.

(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/jens%20lehmann%20levitating%20ireland-thumb.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on July 30, 2008, 05:05:25 PM
from  arsenal.com

Portuguese midfielder Amaury Bischoff joins Arsenal
Arsenal can today confirm the signing of midfielder Amaury Bischoff.

The French-born Portugal Under-21 international, 21, was a youngster with French clubs SR Colmar and Strasbourg before moving to Werder Bremen in 2005.

Bischoff, who can play either in the centre of midfield or on the right, was a regular at youth levels for Werder Bremen. His one senior appearance for the Bundesliga club came against Celta Vigo in the UEFA Cup in 2007.

Amaury has played for France's Under-18 team, however in 2007 he elected to train with Portugal and to date has appeared for their Under-21 side.

Everyone at Arsenal Football Club would like to welcome Amaury, who will wear squad No 28, and will join up with his team-mates for pre-season when the squad returns from their training camp in Austria.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on July 30, 2008, 05:14:49 PM
Quote from: spiritof91and94 on July 25, 2008, 09:02:26 PM
 
New Arsenal away kit – Anfield '89 20th Anniversary
http://onlinestore.arsenal.com/








Bastids!!! Psychological Warfare. I can still see Steve McMahon holding up 1 finger. I minute left!! Why oh why didn't Steve Nicol put Michael Thomas out into the Stand!?!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 30, 2008, 05:26:16 PM
Ah, the memories as an innocent 14-year old. Smith's barely touched header. Aldridge (I think) having the chance late on to sink Arsenal. It's Up For Grabs Now. 18 years in the wilderness wiped out. Liverpool, this year, are in a similar position.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on July 30, 2008, 05:31:59 PM
I was 15, almost 16, and one of my most vivid memories is turning the telly off in disgust the next evening as the UTV news (I think) showed pictures of Arsenal's homecoming in London. God I was as sick as a plane to Lourdes.

For years I took perverse pride that Nicol didn't hack him down that time. Now I wish he had, especially as United have crept up to within 1 title, and are probably favourites to draw level this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 30, 2008, 07:22:04 PM
Full strength line-up bar Fabregas and Rosicky.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 30, 2008, 08:39:29 PM
1-1 after 60. Vela scored - looks a lively lad.

2-1 - good finish from Bendtner after 1-2 with Vela.

Arsenal much sharper since Vela and Bendtner replaced RVP and Ade.

3-1 Wilshire - I think this lad's a better talent that Walcott
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 30, 2008, 09:37:34 PM
Quote3-1 Wilshire - I think this lad's a better talent that Walcott

You might be right, impressed with this kid, no wonder Wenger is confident about this season, this could be a great year yet....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 30, 2008, 09:45:51 PM
I see he has been christened JFW - Jack effing Wilshire. Definitely a better brain than Walcott - very young though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 30, 2008, 10:17:30 PM
Too lazy to check as I am at work but who is Vela?

New signing, new kid?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Corporal on July 30, 2008, 10:31:34 PM
Vela was bought a couple of seasons ago but was loaned out to different teams in Spain. Played for Osasuna (i think) last year and scored a good few goals. Still very young.

How did Nasri go 2nite?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 30, 2008, 10:35:16 PM
Nasri was quiet. Has shown nothing yet. Interestingly, he played Eboue as a defensive midfielder. It worked well but too early to judge. Don't think his temperament is suitable to that job.

Vela is in the same mould as Eduardo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on July 31, 2008, 01:21:18 PM
very nice of spurs to give us six million euro. our share of the bentley transfer from blackburn to them! ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Real1995 on August 01, 2008, 05:40:09 AM
Wenger has ruled out buying another striker which is fair enuf but we are crying out fore a central defender and central midfielder.....hav 2 admit i would b v temped wit Barry.......vela looks an exciting prospect.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: An Fear Rua on August 01, 2008, 09:41:18 AM
Quote from: ildanach on July 31, 2008, 01:21:18 PM
very nice of spurs to give us six million euro. our share of the bentley transfer from blackburn to them! ;D

must be great to have your biggest rivals setting your transfer budget for the summer  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 01, 2008, 07:55:30 PM
Quote from: An Fear Rua on August 01, 2008, 09:41:18 AM
Quote from: ildanach on July 31, 2008, 01:21:18 PM
very nice of spurs to give us six million euro. our share of the bentley transfer from blackburn to them! ;D

must be great to have your biggest rivals setting your transfer budget for the summer  ;D

Biggest rivals?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Real1995 on August 04, 2008, 09:39:19 PM
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has rejected reports linking Philippe Senderos with a move to Newcastle.

Weekend reports suggested Newcastle were lining up a move for Senderos and could even offer Shay Given in a swap deal.

Wenger, though, has rubbished the rumours and says he has no plans to sell the Swiss international.

Asked if he had heard anything from Newcastle about Senderos, Wenger told Sky Sports News: "Nothing, no.

"I will not react because we want to keep our best players. ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on August 04, 2008, 09:58:01 PM
is wenger having a laugh when he says Send-him-home is one of our best players? :o

this man has my heart in mouth every time he comes near to the ball or another player... how he has lasted this long is beyond me!

on another note this young wilshire lad seems to be the real deal, hopefully wenger gives him time to come thru instead of playing him too early..but dont worry i trust AW's judgement (despite the senderos comment)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 05, 2008, 03:06:01 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on August 04, 2008, 09:39:19 PM
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has rejected reports linking Philippe Senderos with a move to Newcastle.

Weekend reports suggested Newcastle were lining up a move for Senderos and could even offer Shay Given in a swap deal.


please let it be true!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 06, 2008, 07:10:11 PM
About to start v Huddersfield.

Fabianski
J.Hoyte G.Hoyte Djourou Gibbs
Lansbury Randall Ramsey Wilshere
Walcott Vela

Didn't ge to see the weekend tournament. Heard Wilshire put in another decent display.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 08, 2008, 09:18:02 PM
Gunners getting a bit of a spanking at the minute, 2-0 down to Ajax at half time. Does not bode well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 08, 2008, 09:55:00 PM
2-2

Bodes well
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 08, 2008, 09:58:51 PM
Arse 3-2 up. Bodes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 09, 2008, 11:33:16 PM
1-1 draw with Seville tonight, winning that tournament again. Despite being relatively outplayed, Arsenal's side had an average age of 19.5 against the Spaniards' full team. Remarkable.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: galwayman on August 11, 2008, 12:47:14 AM
Ye could do with buying a central midfielder lads? I read that Arsenal have been linked with Yaya Toure of Barca. I saw him play against Inter last summer (albeit in a friendly) and thought he looked a very good player. I had never heard of him before that game but he did look impressive.Scored a cracking goal as well.
Not an Gooner myself but In fairness Arsenal are a joy to watch.Play lovely stuff.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 11, 2008, 12:49:19 AM
Unfortunately, we'll play lovely stuff again - the sort of total football stuff they talk about - and will probably put on major performances in the CL but, again, Arsenal still need a break-yer-legs competitor to win the League.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 11, 2008, 04:25:05 PM
i see diaby is out for a month. that means it will be denilson and cesc in the middle on wedneday night. We need to buy cover (or even better a world class player) in the centre of midfield pronto!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 13, 2008, 08:22:04 AM
FC Twente v Arsenal

Arsenal are without Cesc Fabregas and several other first-team stars for the game against FC Twente in Holland.

Fabregas (hamstring) joins the likes of Kolo Toure (hip), Abou Diaby (thigh), Philippe Senderos (hamstring) and summer signing Samri Nasri (knee/thigh) on the sidelines along with Tomas Rosicky and Eduardo, who are both recovering from long-term injuries.

The number of absentees for the third qualifying round first-leg tie at the Grolsch Veste means Wales Under-21 international Aaron Ramsey - who joined the Gunners in a £5 million deal from Cardiff - could be handed a full competitive debut alongside young Brazilian Denilson in midfield.

Yahoo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on August 13, 2008, 08:29:24 AM
Here lads.  Putting my fantasy team together.  Will it be Adebayor & Van Persie as the 1st choices up from?  Who's gonna parter Fabregas in MF?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 13, 2008, 08:36:54 AM
Most definitely they'll be first choice. RVP's prone to injury which should see Bendtner getting a clamp of games. Walcott will probably be a starter this year as well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on August 13, 2008, 08:51:46 AM
Cheers.   Will the young lad from Cardiff be a starter or who's gonna fill flamini's position?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 13, 2008, 09:08:02 AM
Initially he will be - tonight will tell a tale. However, a fully fit squad should see Walcott-Diaby-Fabregas-Rosicky with Nasri, Denilson and Eboue pushing for starts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 13, 2008, 09:15:20 AM
Tonights's game in Arnhem could be a Bridge Too Far for these young goons especially with Fabregas out  :-\
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 13, 2008, 09:06:15 PM
1 nil up gallas (63 min)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on August 13, 2008, 09:12:39 PM
Anyone hear McClaren talk before the match  ???
He has a Dutch accent,He is only in the fecking country 5 weeks  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 13, 2008, 09:20:28 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on August 13, 2008, 09:12:39 PM
Anyone hear McClaren talk before the match  ???
He has a Dutch accent,He is only in the fecking country 5 weeks  :D

they will be using the jaap stam character on gift grub for him!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 13, 2008, 09:25:29 PM
2 nil adebayor, hopefully this puts the tie to bed
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Real1995 on August 13, 2008, 09:47:18 PM
McLaren was speakin as if he was talking to some1 with really bad english...couldn believe it - laughed my head off


good result....gr8 skill by walcott for the goal....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2008, 09:31:42 AM
Was worried about this game but the kids look sharp, augers well with so many missing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stevo-08 on August 14, 2008, 11:13:36 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 13, 2008, 08:22:04 AM
FC Twente v Arsenal

Arsenal are without Cesc Fabregas and several other first-team stars for the game against FC Twente in Holland.

Fabregas (hamstring) joins the likes of Kolo Toure (hip), Abou Diaby (thigh), Philippe Senderos (hamstring) and summer signing Samri Nasri (knee/thigh) on the sidelines along with Tomas Rosicky and Eduardo, who are both recovering from long-term injuries.

The number of absentees for the third qualifying round first-leg tie at the Grolsch Veste means Wales Under-21 international Aaron Ramsey - who joined the Gunners in a £5 million deal from Cardiff - could be handed a full competitive debut alongside young Brazilian Denilson in midfield.

Yahoo.

Lads, whats the story with the injury to Fabregas? Any chance of him starting this weekend.
I have him on my fantasy football team.  :(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on August 21, 2008, 09:19:55 AM
Arsenal announce signing of Mikael Silvestre
Arsenal has today signed French defender Mikael Silvestre on a two year deal having joined the Gunners from Manchester United for an undisclosed fee.

Silvestre (31), an experienced and versatile player, has been with Manchester United since 1999 winning a host of domestic honours including four Premier League titles, one FA Cup winner's medal and a League Cup winner's medal. Silvestre was also part of the UEFA Champions League winning side of 2008 and made a total of 361 appearances for the Manchester side, scoring 10 goals.

Silvestre, who debuted for French national side in 2001, has also made a total of 40 appearances for Les Bleus. Highlights of his international career so far are winning the Confederations Cup in both 2001 and 2003 and reaching the World Cup Final in 2006.

Mikael said on signing for the Gunners: "I've spent a large part of my career at United, the last nine years, and I'll remember that time fondly but feel I'm ready for a new challenge. Arsenal is known for playing technical and skilful football, and has a young but experienced squad. I'm really excited about this next stage of my career, hopefully playing my part in helping the Club to new successes." 

Arsenal manager Arsène Wenger said: "We have a strong squad but a young squad and Mikael's versatility, experience and calibre will provide the extra depth we need to reinforce our challenge for honours this season. His defensive adaptability will serve us well and it's a big plus that Mikael has top level experience and a great understanding of football in the Premier League."

Mikael will join up with his team-mates immediately and will wear shirt number 18.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2008, 09:24:46 AM
What?

Typical Wenger - cards close to the chest.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 21, 2008, 09:30:22 AM
Really don't know what to make of this, expereinced player yes but only a fringe player in his last days at Man U how poor is his form if John O'Shea is selected ahead of him  :o

Might be inspired and hopefully will keep Senderos out of the Arsenal team...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on August 21, 2008, 09:38:59 AM
I think he'll be a good adition to the squad.  He should be good enough to keep Senderos on the bench for a few games at least or maybe even play as a holding mid-fielder.

Oh, I didnt post it but that story was on arsenal.com
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on August 21, 2008, 12:07:41 PM
F**k this club is becoming a joke;
Thought Wengers policy was once over 30 a one year contract was offered - wtf are we taking utd rejects for anyway - says it all about our expectations this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on August 21, 2008, 12:11:43 PM
Initially i thought WTF when i saw that we had signed Silvestre but hopefully his signing will mean the end of Senderos at arsenal..Silvestre aint great but hes good cover to have at the back. Wenger surely has to make one more midfield signing before the window closes....i still think Alonso or Barry will come! Alonso and Cesc midfield sounds good to me!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 21, 2008, 01:35:27 PM
Quote from: hitzelsperger on August 21, 2008, 12:11:43 PM
i still think Alonso or Barry will come! Alonso and Cesc midfield sounds good to me!

alonso and barry are both cup tied for the champions league so i dont think either will be signed now. maybe alonso in january
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on August 21, 2008, 04:44:19 PM
Bit of a surprise this? Did any money change hands? From a Utd point of view it suggests to me that Fergie fancies his young brazilian full back more than silvestre for cover for Evra this season. Who was the last player to go from OT to Arsenal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: kinghen on August 21, 2008, 11:16:22 PM
750,000 trnsfer fee, but he's injured at the minute, so thtas bischoff and silvestr singed whilst injures, i think its a bit of a risk, although his experience in the premiership might be good for our young squad,


ps viv anderson was the last playerto move directly between the clubs, but that was in the opposite direction, that was in 87 and was one of fergies 1st signings,


stil agree that we need to buy a centre-mid, also would b great, scoed 2 for spain last night i think???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 22, 2008, 01:34:35 AM
Sweet mother of god has anyone seen this?? What a twat!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l9BFJYiPxA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l9BFJYiPxA&feature=related)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on August 22, 2008, 11:57:42 AM
McLaren definately is a complete ballox...never seen worse!

I think it said somewhere that brian kidd was last player to join Arsenal from United.longgggggg time ago
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on August 22, 2008, 12:21:06 PM
From arsenal.com

Jimmy Rimmer
Man Utd (1967-72): 46 apps - Arsenal (1973-76): 146 apps
The Lancashire born goalkeeper's Old Trafford highlight was a spot on the bench for the 1968 European Cup Final, but with his chances limited he went first on loan to Swansea City, before joining the Gunners. At Highbury he replaced the retired Bob Wilson as the Club's No 1. It was with Arsenal he won his solitary England cap. He left North London for Aston Villa.
Brian Kidd
Man Utd (1967-73): 264 apps, 70 goals - Arsenal (1974-76): 90 apps, 34 goals
Like Rimmer, Brian Kidd was part of the 1968 European Cup Final squad. His time with United, though, was much more successful than the stopper. His time with Arsenal was short and he headed back up north, this time to play for Manchester City. Kidd went on to form part of Sir Alex Ferguson's backroom staff.
Jim Leighton
Man Utd (1988-93): 94 apps - Arsenal (1991 loan): 0 apps
Leighton started his career at Aberdeen under Sir Alex Ferguson, and followed his manager to Manchester in 1998. Unfortunately Jim found life at United harder than he had in Scotland and found his chances limited by Les Sealey in goal. Arsenal was his first loan stop, that later included a time at Reading.
Matt Wicks
Man Utd (1995): 0 apps, 0 goals - Arsenal (1996): 0 apps, 0 goals
Wicks was touted as 'the next Tony Adams' having graduated from the FA Centre of Excellence. Despite an attachment to Arsenal, joined Manchester United in 1995. Court cases over the move ensued and Matt eventually returned to the Gunners without featuring at Old Trafford. A similar fate occured at Highbury with Wicks eventually joining Crewe Alexandra.
Mikael Silvestre
Man Utd (1999-2008): 361 apps, 10 goals - Arsenal (2008): 0 apps, 0 goals
Mikael enjoyed nine very successful years at Old Trafford, earning four Premier League winners medals. He became a fixture in the French national time while at Old Trafford and is Arsenal's fifth signing of the summer.


Wenger: 'There is interest, always, in Barry'
By Richard Clarke
Arsène Wenger may still sign one more player before the transfer window closes and, to use his exact words, "there is interest, always," in Gareth Barry.
On Wednesday, the Arsenal manager pulled off a surprise by bringing in Mikael Slivestre from Manchester United. The Frenchman can fulfil roles at centre back or left back but not in central midfield, the area in which Wenger had said he needs re-enforcement.
"I can surprise you sometimes, as I got one who you did not expect," said the Arsenal manager at Thursday's press conference. "And there still might be one more player coming in.
"You know the position, but I cannot tell you much more than that." When asked directly about Barry, the manager replied: "There is interest always."
"I do not want to give you any names," he went on. "But we are not in a desperate situation because we have Alex Song back from the Olympics, Abou Diaby does not look too far away and hopefully we can have good news from Tomas Rosicky in the next two weeks.
"We are not short, short but one more body is possible."
[Friday, August 22, 2008
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on August 23, 2008, 08:08:54 PM
pathetic result and pathetic display - when does the window close??
fearon will love fulham now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Real1995 on August 23, 2008, 08:20:17 PM
that was the worse arsenal performance i'd say in five years, there was nothin der 2nite, but if it takes that wake up call for wenger 2sign a big player dis week, it may be worth it...if we had of won 2nite it jus would have papered over the cracks....very disapointin
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 23, 2008, 09:46:04 PM
Just highlighting how important fibreglass is to this arsenal team - walcott didnt impress much at all. On another day adebayor would have had a couple.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 23, 2008, 10:04:46 PM
Eboue and Denilson in CM says it all. What top side in Europe would have that as their midfield, even as 2nd choice?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Real1995 on August 25, 2008, 02:28:15 PM
AC Milan have completed the signing of Arsenal defender Philippe Senderos on a one-year loan deal, according to Gazzetta dello Sport.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on August 25, 2008, 03:48:50 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on August 25, 2008, 02:28:15 PM
AC Milan have completed the signing of Arsenal defender Philippe Senderos on a one-year loan deal, according to Gazzetta dello Sport.

i hope this is true....after saturdays performance a few others could follow! wenger needs to sign a decent midfielder asap

fair play to fulham they battled hard but i think if adebayors header had gone in instead of off the post we would have won the game...big improvement needed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on August 25, 2008, 04:30:31 PM
Senderos leaves for Milan


By Jonathan Chong on Monday, August 25, 2008
Defender Philippe Senderos has joined AC Milan on a one-year loan deal.

The Swiss international had fallen down the pecking order at the Emirates with the signing of former Manchester United defender Mikael Silvestre.

Senderos' career at Arsenal began as one of the more promising centre-backs in the world, but he failed to establish himself in the first team and made some costly errors.

He joins midfielder Mathieu Flamini, and the Italian club have the option of making the deal permanent with an agreed fee next summer.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on September 02, 2008, 08:19:29 AM
Im very worried how our season will pan out now, no additions to a squad that is severely lacking in midfield and defense...i trust arsene's judgement...just :S
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on September 09, 2008, 12:19:42 PM
Fantastic man of the mach performance from gilberto silva over the weekend anchoring the brazilian midfield in a their must win wc qualifier against chile.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 09, 2008, 11:47:33 PM
The next time Arsenal are drawn against Chile, we'll fairly regret it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 14, 2008, 09:37:24 AM
Another sign that when Arsenal are at full strength, there are few teams that'll match them. With Rosicky and Eduardo coming back before the end of the year and if RVP and Fabregas can stay injury free, there's nothing this side cannot achieve.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on September 17, 2008, 08:59:46 PM
game tonight is a bit stop start. i would take a point at this stage although, 3 are definately there for the taking
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 17, 2008, 11:26:24 PM
I like the new Arse away jersey
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 18, 2008, 12:20:23 AM
The jersey commemorates the Anfield '89 game.

Nervy today. Gallas has a knack of popping up with those type of match-saving goals. RVP on the wing didn't work. Although Walcott didn't see much play, he again never wasted a ball (19/19 were the stats I think). Still no wins out that part of the globe.

Amazed to see Wenger there after he buried his father yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on September 18, 2008, 11:29:37 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 18, 2008, 12:20:23 AM
Amazed to see Wenger there after he buried his father yesterday.

just shows his dedication. He was very animated at the end with the 4th offical and the ref. He said it was over the added time (or lack of it). i thought it would have been over the penalty. Your man had hold of sagna jersey and just pulled them both down and the ref bought it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 18, 2008, 02:43:51 PM
Very soft penalty but worrying that Sagna was isolated on his own in that situation. Controlled possesion well and created chances, will be a tight group but as long as the Goons win their home games I think that point will ensure qualification.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 18, 2008, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 18, 2008, 12:20:23 AM
The jersey commemorates the Anfield '89 game.



Aye I was thinking it was from that season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 18, 2008, 05:09:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 18, 2008, 12:20:23 AM
The jersey commemorates the Anfield '89 game.

Nervy today. Gallas has a knack of popping up with those type of match-saving goals. RVP on the wing didn't work. Although Walcott didn't see much play, he again never wasted a ball (19/19 were the stats I think). Still no wins out that part of the globe.

Amazed to see Wenger there after he buried his father yesterday.

Never heard that. Was it in the media?

A point away in Russia is a decent enough point IMHO.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 19, 2008, 09:35:59 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on September 18, 2008, 05:09:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 18, 2008, 12:20:23 AM
The jersey commemorates the Anfield '89 game.

Nervy today. Gallas has a knack of popping up with those type of match-saving goals. RVP on the wing didn't work. Although Walcott didn't see much play, he again never wasted a ball (19/19 were the stats I think). Still no wins out that part of the globe.

Amazed to see Wenger there after he buried his father yesterday.

Never heard that. Was it in the media?

have dynamo kiev moved to the russian league??

A point away in Russia is a decent enough point IMHO.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on September 20, 2008, 06:40:53 PM
That fat c**t Davies!!  If i ever got near him he wouldn't put in a tackle like that......If you cant play football then Fu*k off!!!

Really annoyed about that!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 20, 2008, 07:29:03 PM
3-1. Seem to have overcome the northern effect. Great cameo appearance from Walcott - the man is starting to deliver.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: centre 3/4s on September 20, 2008, 08:47:20 PM
Have to hand it to arsehole wingher he has done a top job at the gunners i love watching the whores and for the amount of money he has spent compared to some of those other clowns is amazing!! I would really like to see them win something as watching them is well worth the admission money, imagine paying a fortune every week to watch that chelsea shite it would depress the hell out of you, i get bored watching highlights of them f**ks never mind watching a whole game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on September 23, 2008, 04:11:07 PM
wonder what Wenger ever did to Platini?

from sky.com
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger admits he is stunned by Uefa president Michel Platini's attack on him in an interview with a French newspaper.

Platini, the head of European football's governing body, fired a couple of broadsides at the Arsenal manager during a frank interview with Grenoble daily Dauphine Libere.

The former France international slammed Wenger for having a business mentality rather than a football one.

And he also tore into the Gunners boss for calling for the introduction of video replays to rule on questionable refereeing decisions.

Wenger has been taken aback by Platini's criticisms.

Stunned
"I am stunned by the aggressive content of Platini's words," Wenger told L'Equipe."I am effectively a supporter of video assistance for referees, like all coaches, and I believe Uefa have an important role to play in this.

"I am for sporting justice and Uefa must be the guarantor of it."

Wenger added: "I am a supporter of good management of clubs, for financial equilibrium.

"And Uefa must equally support this idea. I am fighting for the future of the game and of football.

"I don't see why Uefa should take umbrage at ideas that are different from their own."

In Platini's interview with Dauphine Libere, Wenger's name was raised during a question about the introduction of video technology.


Blast
Platini replied: "I like to talk about football, him (Wenger) about business. We must stop with Wenger and all that."

Platini then said he hoped video assistance would never come into football, adding: "It would make me happy that Arsene Wenger never sees it."

Later in the interview, Platini again targeted Wenger when asked about his thoughts on Romanian side CFR Cluj's unexpected victory over Roma in the UEFA Champions League last week.

"That is what makes football so great," Platini said. "It is what people like Wenger do not want, little clubs beating the big clubs, because they want their business."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on September 23, 2008, 04:43:41 PM
http://msn.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_4183873,00.html?ocid=today
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on September 23, 2008, 10:24:09 PM
6 v 0 some win for the arsenal youngsters!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiffler on September 23, 2008, 10:27:28 PM
How good is your lad Vela??

will he see much time in the premier league this year, or is he more of one for the future?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: kinghen on September 24, 2008, 10:06:58 AM
Quote from: stiffler on September 23, 2008, 10:27:28 PM
How good is your lad Vela??

will he see much time in the premier league this year, or is he more of one for the future?

dont think he'll get that much playing time in the league tbf, bendtner got two goals  last night and still think he's 3rd choice after ade and rvp (untill eduardo gets back anyway)

i actually think that he is very much in the same mould as eduardo, natual goalscorer with great finishing ability, (he was the golden boot winner in the 2005 u-17 world cup finals)

but if he continues to play like that in the carling cup, i hope he does get a chance with the big boys!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on September 24, 2008, 11:26:27 AM
Quote from: stiffler on September 23, 2008, 10:27:28 PM
How good is your lad Vela??

will he see much time in the premier league this year, or is he more of one for the future?

absolute cracker on football manager
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on September 26, 2008, 11:27:06 AM
What do ye make of this plank?

http://www.goal.com/en-us/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=877301

Nolan: We Went After Theo

Bolton Wanderers captain Kevin Nolan has admitted he instructed his team-mates to target Arsenal youngster Theo Walcott during Saturday's clash at the Reebok...
Walcott came on as a second-half substitute in the Gunners' 3-1 victory over the Trotters, lighting up the game in typical fashion by providing the assist for Denilson's sealer.

The England winger is in the best form of his short career, and Nolan confessed that his defence were under orders to kick the jet-heeled teenager out of the game.

"I have never seen anybody as quick as Theo Walcott in my life," he told The Sun. "I said to Jlloyd Samuel 'Give him a little kick and see if he comes back at you!'"

Nolan's comments will no doubt enrage Arsene Wenger, as the Arsenal manager was livid with the similarly physical approach Dynamo Kiev took against Walcott during last week's Champions League clash.

But the Bolton skipper defended his side's tactics: "At the end of the day, it is a physical sport. We don't want to be like basketballers.

"We are in the gym four or five days a week to build ourselves up to try to stand up to challenges like that.

"We are in danger of losing that side — the roughing up of people."

Cecil Braun

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on September 26, 2008, 11:31:11 AM
TBH, I would expect most teams to be like this with Walcott
But to come out and say it shows the IQ of Nolan
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on September 26, 2008, 11:34:55 AM
Footballers should be banned from speaking to the media, and if they are allowed they should only be allowed to use the following phrases -

sick as a parrot
over the moon
we wuz robbed
do i not like that
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Yes I Would on September 27, 2008, 07:03:52 PM
2-1 Hull  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on September 27, 2008, 07:30:06 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 27, 2008, 07:28:23 PM
Full Time.
Arsenal put through Hull.

How sad you must have had that typed out and then hit the button at the whistle!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Yes I Would on September 27, 2008, 07:34:46 PM
Jaysus!! Wenger will be like a divil tonight!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 27, 2008, 07:36:54 PM
I remember drinking with a couple of Hull fans in Birmingham in 1999. They were crying into their beer that Hull were about to go into administration at the bottom of the league.

Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on September 27, 2008, 07:43:33 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 27, 2008, 07:31:27 PM
Had not. How long does it take to type 6 words?

Depends how many pints u have in you....Was watching the match and that msg came up bout 4 secs after the final whistle....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on September 27, 2008, 07:50:20 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 27, 2008, 07:46:28 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on September 27, 2008, 07:43:33 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 27, 2008, 07:31:27 PM
Had not. How long does it take to type 6 words?

Depends how many pints u have in you....Was watching the match and that msg came up bout 4 secs after the final whistle....
So you think it takes me 4 seconds to press the button?
as i said depends how many pints you have in you.....!

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 27, 2008, 07:52:42 PM
Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 27, 2008, 08:01:49 PM
Maybe this has been discussed before but why do Arsenal always seem to get the late kickoff on a saturday.I might be mistaken but is that the 3rd or 4th weekend in a row?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 27, 2008, 10:26:39 PM
I like thon Hull manager.  Seems to know his stuff as opposed to the normal English manager.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/match_of_the_day/7640108.stm
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on September 28, 2008, 08:24:47 PM
Your useless lot cost me £300 win yesterday!  >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on September 28, 2008, 08:26:22 PM
I know i fella it cost £2.5k
Title: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: T Fearon on September 29, 2008, 09:01:16 AM
FFS, Hull City at home :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

With Paul Mc Shane in their defence as well :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: nifan on September 29, 2008, 09:03:47 AM
Tony I am shocked you would open a topic to insult another team at the moment, when your own is the worst int he premiership!

Arsenal deserved their defeat though, Hull played some great stuff! Class goal from geovanni
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: Stalin on September 29, 2008, 09:31:46 AM
        1   2   1   Chelsea   6   4   2   0   12   3   9   14
   2   3   1   Liverpool   6   4   2   0   7   2   5   14
   3   4   1   Aston Villa   6   4   1   1   12   8   4   13
   4   1   3   Arsenal   6   4   0   2   12   4   8   12
   5   6   1   West Ham United   6   4   0   2   13   10   3   12
   6   7   1   Hull City   6   3   2   1   9   11   -2   11
   7   10   3   Blackburn Rovers   6   3   1   2   8   12   -4   10
   8   5   3   Manchester City   6   3   0   3   16   9   7   9
   9   13   4   Portsmouth   6   3   0   3   7   12   -5   9
   10   14   4   Wigan Athletic   6   2   2   2   9   5   4   8
   11   15   4   Manchester United   5   2   2   1   6   4   2   8
   12   17   5   West Bromwich Albion   6   2   1   3   6   7   -1   7
   13   8   5   Sunderland   6   2   1   3   6   8   -2   7
   14   9   5   Everton   6   2   1   3   9   13   -4   7
   15   11   4   Fulham   5   2   0   3   5   6   -1   6
   16   12   4   Middlesbrough   6   2   0   4   6   9   -3   6
   17   16   1   Bolton Wanderers   6   1   1   4   5   9   -4   4
   18   18      Stoke City   6   1   1   4   7   12   -5   4
   19   19      Newcastle United   6   1   1   4   5   11   -6   4
   20   20      Tottenham Hotspur   6   0   2   4   4   9   -5   2
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: supersub on September 29, 2008, 09:34:58 AM
awfully steady table :D
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: ziggysego on September 29, 2008, 11:01:32 AM
Jesus Tony, let it go. You're showing yourself up to be a right old fool.
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2008, 11:22:22 AM
Grammar police ne naw ne naw. When talking about TF's foolishness, surely all the tenses are applicable ziggy? By only using the present, you have inadvertantlyimplied that this is a recent behavioural trait :)
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: full back on September 29, 2008, 11:23:43 AM
Being such a lucky sod (copmpetitions etc) , how the fcuk is Fearon such a jinx?
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: ziggysego on September 29, 2008, 11:31:59 AM
Quote from: theskull1 on September 29, 2008, 11:22:22 AM
Gammar police ne naw ne naw. When talking about TF's foolishness, surely all the tenses are applicable ziggy? By only using the present, you have inadvertantlyimplied that this is a recent behavioural trait :)

Gammar?
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2008, 11:43:09 AM
Is it too late to say that that was intentional, in the hope the real grammar police would jump on me and take the pressure off TF?

:)
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: Square Ball on September 29, 2008, 01:02:41 PM
Tony are you trying to deflect from the fact that Spurs really are crap!!!!
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: Puckoon on September 29, 2008, 03:13:36 PM
The most spectacular stat from this weekend, is that this is Tottenhams worst league start in 34 years. 34 years!!

That is impressive going, considering some of the atrocious spurs starts to the season - particularly in the last 5 years.

2 points from 18 with hull coming up next weekend - there is no end in sight for the white heart lane misery train.
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: full back on September 29, 2008, 03:22:59 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 29, 2008, 03:13:36 PM
The most spectacular stat from this weekend, is that this is Tottenhams worst league start in 34 years. 34 years!!

Thought it was 53 years
Anyway, is it any wonder. They have sold 3 strikers in the past year & a half or so and replaced them with Pavlyuachenko (sp).
Then after the game on Sunday Poyet said the reason Bent was put on to replace the Russian is because they cant play together, even though they were 2 down :D
I mean WTF
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: ziggysego on September 29, 2008, 03:31:37 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 29, 2008, 03:13:36 PM
2 points from 18 with hull coming up next weekend - there is no end in sight for the white heart lane misery train.

With Tony laughing at Arsenal today...... this has the making to be Spur's biggest defeat of the year.
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: stew on September 29, 2008, 03:35:32 PM
Eh, why is it wrong for somebody to laugh at their arch enemies defeat ????

The spuds are going down unless they develop a backbone but I would have thought a spuds fan has the right to laugh at the pitiful Arse getting beaten by Hull.

Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: ziggysego on September 29, 2008, 03:44:03 PM
Pitiful Arsenal?
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on September 29, 2008, 03:51:08 PM
Team in 20th laughing a a team in 4th  ???
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: full back on September 29, 2008, 03:52:24 PM
Would rather be an Arsenal fan now than a spud
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: stew on September 29, 2008, 06:01:59 PM
Quote from: full back on September 29, 2008, 03:52:24 PM
Would rather be an Arsenal fan now than a spud


You cant help being a spud fan, you cant switch off if you have supported a team like fearon has all his days.

You have no idea how many times i would have liked to forget about Armagh football, you cant, it sucks you in no matter how many times it breaks your heart.

That said, gaelic is a different animal than sawker, i cannot imagine people being that into the paid mercenary game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gaaboard on September 29, 2008, 06:25:21 PM
The "Lets all laugh at Arse-nil" topic has been merged into this one as there was no need to start a new topic.
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 29, 2008, 06:29:02 PM
Quote from: stew on September 29, 2008, 06:01:59 PM
Quote from: full back on September 29, 2008, 03:52:24 PM
Would rather be an Arsenal fan now than a spud



That said, gaelic is a different animal than sawker, i cannot imagine people being that into the paid mercenary game.

If you have been supporting a team for 25+ years its very easy to be "that into" such a club...I don't see why you can't imagine that
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 21, 2008, 07:56:33 PM
Jaysus this had dropped to page 14.

Anyways, in Turkey.

No defence.

RVP dropped.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 21, 2008, 07:57:58 PM
1-0 Adebayor
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 21, 2008, 07:59:17 PM
2-0 Walcott

2 goals in a minute
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 21, 2008, 08:02:15 PM
Should've been three.

Fenebache's backs cat.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 21, 2008, 08:13:34 PM
Some score line with the game 30 mins old.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 21, 2008, 08:20:06 PM
3-1. Flippin stream died at 2-0.

Got it back at: http://www.ustream.tv/videoplayerpopup/channel/327976
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 21, 2008, 08:38:30 PM
1-0 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2391001
2-0 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2391019
2-1 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2391035
3-1 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=2391041
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on October 22, 2008, 01:54:36 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2008, 08:04:00 PM
The first time I was ever at Old Trafford, they bate Man Utd 1 nil.

Let me guess...1998,overmars??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on October 22, 2008, 05:42:27 AM
Quote from: new devil on October 22, 2008, 01:54:36 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2008, 08:04:00 PM
The first time I was ever at Old Trafford, they bate Man Utd 1 nil.

Let me guess...1998,overmars??

to win the league  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 22, 2008, 09:06:27 AM
Quoteet me guess...1998,overmars??

Happy days.....

Great result and a win in the next round could ensuire qualification. The Turks were fairly poor defensively, how Roberto Carlos's star has fallen..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: YogiBear on October 22, 2008, 11:25:34 AM
Good performance going forward last night but very very poor in defence.  We have no chance of winning anything this year with no enforcer in midfield and a decent centre half who is a bit of a savage but sure we have known that for three years and wenger does nothing really pissed of with him now thinks it time for him to move up stairs as director of football and let a young manager in who will spend like a David Moyes type.  Silvestre looks to have lost 5 yards of pace since his manure days. Diaby was impressive though would like to see him in for Denilson for a few games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on October 23, 2008, 12:07:23 AM
Quote from: hitzelsperger on October 22, 2008, 05:42:27 AM
Quote from: new devil on October 22, 2008, 01:54:36 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 21, 2008, 08:04:00 PM
The first time I was ever at Old Trafford, they bate Man Utd 1 nil.

Let me guess...1998,overmars??

to win the league  ;D
[/quote

Yea was that the game..Father nearly got killed for celebrating when Arsenal scored....I would of helped them that day to  >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 07:34:06 AM
First big game of the season tonight. When the fixtures first came out, it was feasible to believe that Arsenal would be sitting on full points (27) when meeting Spurs. Out of the 9 games played so far, they'll dropped points in three: Hull, Fulham and and Sunderland. It was the easiest start to a season in living memory but to gather 19 points from 27 is disappointing given all the tough games are about to arrive thick and fast: Spurs tonight, Utd on the 8th and Chelsea on the 30th with the likes of Villa and City in between.

Tonight is tough given the circumstances but Arsenal are a much better side and playing at home should be enough to see the three points in the bank. He has been rotating the strikeforce in recent games, with Adebayor rested for most of the West Ham game, RVP before that and Walcott as well. I'd settle for:

Almunia,
Sagna, Gallas, Toure, Clichy,
Walcott  Fabregas, Diaby, Nasri
Adebayor Van Persie

In terms of what AW's thinking, Silvestre seems to be getting the nod over Toure recently and maybe Denilson ahead of Diaby.

Sink the Yids.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: YogiBear on October 29, 2008, 08:18:59 AM
Cant wait for this game tonight anything less than a convincing win will be unacceptable.  It may be a derby but the spuds are bottom of the league for a reason because they are worst team in the league.  There is also the small matter of revenge for the Carling cup last year which Adebayor talks about in the Mirror this morning.  He says he has scored 7 goals against spuds in six games and would love if it was 10 in seven games after tonight thats the spirit.
On a side issue I have a sneaky feeling oul donkey might mastermind a first defeat for Liverpool tonight which would really leave us right back in the mix even after such a poor start.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 08:18:40 PM
Bentley screamer 0-1.

Spurs on top in general.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 08:42:36 PM
FISHFACE!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 09:02:40 PM
H-T 1-1.

Spurs working hard and deserved to take the lead. One hell of a strike from Bentley; the sort of goal regularly scored against Arsenal this season. However, after the goal the Gunners really turned the screw and pinned Spuds back for the guts of 25 minutes solid before Silvestre nodded in from their 290th corner. The final 5 mins or so were simply played out with Arsenal taking a breather and Spurs refusing to attack.

Walcott has been lively but extremely frustrating. His final pass/shot taking can be chronic at times, but at least he's still looking for the ball. RVP has been disastrous again. Hard to justify his starting place at the minute and has that disinterested appearance again. Fabregas is a delight to watch. Towards the end of the half, Spurs stopped even attempting to dispossess him. His control on the ball is something else and he's trying to probe an opening. Walcott's looking like the only outlet but as we know Adebayor can be dangerous. Nasri is also seeing a lot of the ball a la Fabregas and is putting in a decent display as is Sagna, Clichy and Fishface.

Spurs are parking the bus. They don't seem to have much pace in order to hurt Clichy and Sagna on the break though thon big fella up front seems to have put the willies up Almunia. He's punching everything.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 09:07:56 PM
2-1 Gallas 46 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 09:25:09 PM
Jays thon's a serious facial twitch Redknapp has. Adebayor had a gilt-edged chance to bury the game.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 29, 2008, 09:26:52 PM
3-1 what a ball by van persie ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 29, 2008, 09:28:23 PM
3-2 bent...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 09:28:54 PM
Deadly ball. Harry'll have Gomez out the door in the morn.

Almunia may follow....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 29, 2008, 09:29:52 PM
van persie 4-2. lets finish the f$$kin job this time
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 09:31:32 PM
Need to bury them.

Edit: How much would you give for another goal - it'd be their biggest defeat of the season. It's already the most they've conceded in a game.....new dawn indeed!

Edit: How does the delete button work?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 29, 2008, 09:51:14 PM
4-3 jenas. bad slip by clichy. good finsih
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 29, 2008, 09:55:29 PM
4-4... disaster
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: FermGael on October 29, 2008, 09:55:54 PM
How many threads will he start.........................
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 09:56:52 PM
Smply unbelieveable - the majority of the Spurs supporters had left..........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on October 29, 2008, 09:57:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 09:31:32 PM
Need to bury them.

Edit: How much would you give for another goal - it'd be their biggest defeat of the season. It's already the most they've conceded in a game.....new dawn indeed!


Are you Fearon in disguise?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 09:58:24 PM
Could be edit-of-the-year.

Some kick in the arse for Arse. Had the chances to bury the game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on October 29, 2008, 10:02:47 PM
Heartbreak!!!!!!!!!!!!! fcukkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 10:04:34 PM
The only positive is up to third in the league and Spuds still bottom. Not that it makes one feel good right now.

Some slip by Clichy, 2 Almunia mistakes and a rebound off the post....Harry's the devil. Eboue and Fabregas had the chances to kill the ball a couple for times after the 7th goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on October 29, 2008, 10:10:26 PM
Jamie Redknapp has just declared that David Bentley is a "genius", did you ever hear such indulgent shite.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 10:14:24 PM
Cannot see Arsenal sustaining any type of title challenge. Although Spuds had 5 chances and took 4, Arsenal look extremely vunerable in CD. Gallas simply isn't a leader, but I don't know who is in that team.

6 points off the lead but still to meet a top side. Doesn't bode well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiffler on October 29, 2008, 10:25:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 10:14:24 PM
Cannot see Arsenal sustaining any type of title challenge. Although Spuds had 5 chances and took 4, Arsenal look extremely vunerable in CD. Gallas simply isn't a leader, but I don't know who is in that team.

6 points off the lead but still to meet a top side. Doesn't bode well.


Fabregas?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 10:30:12 PM
He'd be the No.1 candidate I suppose.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 29, 2008, 10:30:53 PM
I was watching Sky Sports News.  Got to 3-1 and put my boot through the TV.  Came on here thinking I'd see O'Neill gloating and realise it's 4-4??????  Get in!!!!!!!!!!!!

Goal of the Season David Bentley.  No doubt about it!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Old Bill on October 29, 2008, 10:32:29 PM
2154: GOAL Arsenal 4-4 Tottenham
Did I really just write that? That's the most amazing thing I've ever seen. Luka Modric hits a stunning, dipping, outrageous volley from the edge of the box that flies over Manuel Almunia and cannons back off the post and substitute Aaron Lennon is on hand to tap in the rebound. Utterly, utterly incredible scenes.

Fuckin fantastic!

You are a fairweather fan The Gs Man!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on October 29, 2008, 10:45:33 PM
Quote from: Old Bill on October 29, 2008, 10:32:29 PM


You are a fairweather fan The Gs Man!


Fairweather feck all!!!  My heads been wrecked this past two months.  The wife left me and took the kids with her.  I've turned into a right grumpy bastard.  Only Harry has come in and steadied the ship I'd be found lying in some backstreet with a binliner round me to keep the cold out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 29, 2008, 10:47:40 PM
Spurs have to be luckiest side in the world, Arsenal completely outplayed them bar a 15 minute spell at the start. Arsenal will win nothing but Spurs are so poor I can see them been relegated Arsenal could have scored 10 goals tonight. Very frustrating!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2008, 11:03:41 PM
Good game all the same  - 8 different scorers.

Did you see the Spurs fan who got caught up in the goal celebration?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/default.stm
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Old Bill on October 29, 2008, 11:07:05 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 29, 2008, 10:47:40 PM
Spurs have to be luckiest side in the world, Arsenal completely outplayed them bar a 15 minute spell at the start. Arsenal will win nothing but Spurs are so poor I can see them been relegated Arsenal could have scored 10 goals tonight. Very frustrating!!!

Dry your eyes man!
build up first arsenal goal: bents foul no foul given
1st arsenal goal: goalie howler.
2nd arse goal: no foul for free for van persie and huddlestone hard done by.
4th goal: Hutton mistake let in adebayor.
Spurs had lucky goals too but that post of yours was ridiculous.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2008, 08:52:13 AM
Spurs creating absolutly nothing after the adrenaline died down, Bentleys goal was a 1 in a million shot where Denillson was fouled firstly, the 2nd goal was again a speculative shot which Almunia made a balls off, the third goal, great finsh but was a mistake by Clichy and the last goal was a long ball with another speculative shot that was deflected. All jammy goals, Spurs were completely played off the park for the majority and only myopic Spurs supporters would deny that.

One cannot deny that Spurs are relegation fodder, they are bottom of the premier league hence the worst side in the premiership hence I can see them been relegated and with that defence I didn't anything last night to convince me otherwsie.

::)
Title: From Yahoooooooo
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2008, 09:24:38 AM
Modern history

Thu Oct 30 08:58AM
Pile on! Here lies a story of two football clubs who reside in North London. One wears red, the other wears white; one is usually good, the other usually shi... well let us not finish that little limerick.

But let's look at the pair: first you have Arsenal - in just the last 10 years they have won three league titles and claimed five second place finishes; they have become Champions League regulars; and they are third in the Premier League just six points behind leaders Liverpool.

Then you have Tottenham - they have not won a league title since 1961 or indeed finished in the top two since 1963; their fans have never heard heavenly voices singing "the champions" at White Hart Lane on a Wednesday night; and they currently lie bottom of the Premier League with just six points all season.

Last night the two sides met and it was a draw - who would you rather support?

Well this morning the birds are singing, the sun is shining, and all feels well with the world if you are a Tottenham fan; while Arsenal fans are scratching their heads trying to think of an excuse that will allow them to call in sick for work.

Those Gooners who are brave enough to solider in and face their baiting Tottenham mates will no doubt regale the history lesson above to their success famished rivals, but the Spurs fans won't care.

Such is the beauty of football, the beauty of the derby, the beauty of the last minute equaliser.

Sorry Arsenal fans, but you're just going to have to suck this one up.

Forget Jesus, Allah, Vishnu and Buddah - for one week at least the only messiah that counts down at White Hart Lane is good old 'Arry.

Arsene Wenger said before last night's epic encounter that he thought Spurs were too hasty in their sacking of Juande Ramos, but it is hard to imagine there is a football fan in the country who thinks Tottenham would have got anything from the Emirates last night had the Spaniard still been charge.

Tottenham had a belief and a spirit about them throughout the game that has been sadly lacking all season. David Bentley and Luka Modric looked fresh and invigorated after their comatose starts to their careers at White Hart Lane. And Spurs might have even won the game if they had a decent goalkeeper - heck they might have even won the match with Paul Robinson between the sticks.

ED has laughed with the rest of country at Spurs' calamitous start to the season, and will laugh even harder when Redknapp's pixie dust wears off and they are relegated, but credit where credit is due - for now we will let them enjoy their moment.

A small minority of Spurs fans though must be having mixed feelings about last night's escapades.  Yes, we are of course talking about those few fans who left the stadium before the final whistle.

One painful lesson that those moronic Liverpool fans who flew all the way to Istanbul for the Champions League final in 2005 only to then leave at half-time when they saw their side go 3-0 down to Milan will tell you is that you should NEVER leave a match before the final whistle if there is even a slither of hope that your side might make a miraculous comeback.

It is understandable that when your team is 4-2 down to your main rivals with a minute to go that you might be tempted to end the agony early; and judging by the amount of empty seats that could be seen in the Tottenham end when the late goals went in lots of Spurs fans took that option.

The majority stayed of to be fair, it is not like the stand was as empty as the Jonathon Ross studio will be this Friday or anything, but how must those fans who did leave be feeling this morning knowing that they missed a sensational comeback from their team that will be talked about for years to come?

Almost as sick as the Arsenal fans I'd imagine.

Almost!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on October 30, 2008, 09:27:09 AM
What a pleasure to shit on your parade with an unsettled team and new management. Cant wait for the return at WHL at which stage we'll have a fully settled team and be in top form as well. At least the Goons fans might have woken up last night when they realised for once an entertaining team was playing. I heard a few of them broke out into a whisper! :D
Title: Re: From Yahoooooooo
Post by: corn02 on October 30, 2008, 09:34:31 AM
Quote from: ONeill on October 30, 2008, 09:24:38 AM
Modern history

Thu Oct 30 08:58AM
Pile on! Here lies a story of two football clubs who reside in North London. One wears red, the other wears white; one is usually good, the other usually shi... well let us not finish that little limerick.

But let's look at the pair: first you have Arsenal - in just the last 10 years they have won three league titles and claimed five second place finishes; they have become Champions League regulars; and they are third in the Premier League just six points behind leaders Liverpool.

Then you have Tottenham - they have not won a league title since 1961 or indeed finished in the top two since 1963; their fans have never heard heavenly voices singing "the champions" at White Hart Lane on a Wednesday night; and they currently lie bottom of the Premier League with just six points all season.

Last night the two sides met and it was a draw - who would you rather support?

Well this morning the birds are singing, the sun is shining, and all feels well with the world if you are a Tottenham fan; while Arsenal fans are scratching their heads trying to think of an excuse that will allow them to call in sick for work.

Those Gooners who are brave enough to solider in and face their baiting Tottenham mates will no doubt regale the history lesson above to their success famished rivals, but the Spurs fans won't care.

Such is the beauty of football, the beauty of the derby, the beauty of the last minute equaliser.

Sorry Arsenal fans, but you're just going to have to suck this one up.

Forget Jesus, Allah, Vishnu and Buddah - for one week at least the only messiah that counts down at White Hart Lane is good old 'Arry.

Arsene Wenger said before last night's epic encounter that he thought Spurs were too hasty in their sacking of Juande Ramos, but it is hard to imagine there is a football fan in the country who thinks Tottenham would have got anything from the Emirates last night had the Spaniard still been charge.

Tottenham had a belief and a spirit about them throughout the game that has been sadly lacking all season. David Bentley and Luka Modric looked fresh and invigorated after their comatose starts to their careers at White Hart Lane. And Spurs might have even won the game if they had a decent goalkeeper - heck they might have even won the match with Paul Robinson between the sticks.

ED has laughed with the rest of country at Spurs' calamitous start to the season, and will laugh even harder when Redknapp's pixie dust wears off and they are relegated, but credit where credit is due - for now we will let them enjoy their moment.

A small minority of Spurs fans though must be having mixed feelings about last night's escapades.  Yes, we are of course talking about those few fans who left the stadium before the final whistle.

One painful lesson that those moronic Liverpool fans who flew all the way to Istanbul for the Champions League final in 2005 only to then leave at half-time when they saw their side go 3-0 down to Milan will tell you is that you should NEVER leave a match before the final whistle if there is even a slither of hope that your side might make a miraculous comeback.

It is understandable that when your team is 4-2 down to your main rivals with a minute to go that you might be tempted to end the agony early; and judging by the amount of empty seats that could be seen in the Tottenham end when the late goals went in lots of Spurs fans took that option.

The majority stayed of to be fair, it is not like the stand was as empty as the Jonathon Ross studio will be this Friday or anything, but how must those fans who did leave be feeling this morning knowing that they missed a sensational comeback from their team that will be talked about for years to come?

Almost as sick as the Arsenal fans I'd imagine.

Almost!

Ehh? where is this soming from. The same halftime were a handful left like any game and the crowd sung 'you'll never walk alone' n masse?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on October 30, 2008, 09:42:22 AM
Fabregas-bag picks his week to claim that Arsenal Women would beat Spurs!   :D

Ranks alongside Hansen's "You'll win nothing with kids" and Keegans "Only one team will win it now & that's England!"  remarks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hectorsheroes on October 30, 2008, 09:56:05 AM
Fair play to Spurs - you drew a match - cue wild celebrations.

Yes Arsenal threw it away and have only themselves to blame and the fans rightly feel sick but spare us the Spurs goading and Fabregas didn't actually say what was reported. You drew a match that Arsenal contrived to throw away courtesy of several mistakes
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: corn02 on October 30, 2008, 10:05:21 AM
Jesus do you expect them not to celebrate that result - they were dead and buried ffs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The GAA on October 30, 2008, 01:34:18 PM

How bad a keeper is almunia?

am i right in saying he is arsenal vice captain?

why o why have arsenal not got a defensive midfielder?

when did united, chelsea or liverpool last concede 4?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2008, 01:47:58 PM
March 20th 2008 Chelsea 4 - Spurs 4  ::)

Some people really should try better
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on October 30, 2008, 02:08:38 PM
Have to say I am a follower of Arsenal (Blacburn supporter) and I do admire the quality of player they have and the way they play football but I seriously think Wenger has lost the plot.

Silvestre is a liability at the back as well as Gallas not to mention Clichy (although a fabulous player btw) who is always liable to make mistakes in big games that cost results. Allied to that the lack of a proper Captain, Fabregas was mooted previously but he gve the ball away with a minute left last night when he should have played keep ball in the corner. Then you have the lack of a proper holding midfielder and Arsenal are just going to haemorrhage goals for the season. In fairness people have been waiting for Wenger to get the blend right for almost 4 years now and somebody needs to have a word in his ear. Arsenal will not win anything the way things are going!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on October 30, 2008, 02:12:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on October 30, 2008, 02:08:38 PM
Have to say I am a follower of Arsenal (Blacburn supporter) and I do admire the quality of player they have and the way they play football but I seriously think Wenger has lost the plot.

Silvestre is a liability at the back as well as Gallas not to mention Clichy (although a fabulous player btw) who is always liable to make mistakes in big games that cost results. Allied to that the lack of a proper Captain, Fabregas was mooted previously but he gve the ball away with a minute left last night when he should have played keep ball in the corner. Then you have the lack of a proper holding midfielder and Arsenal are just going to haemorrhage goals for the season. In fairness people have been waiting for Wenger to get the blend right for almost 4 years now and somebody needs to have a word in his ear. Arsenal will not win anything the way things are going!!

Clichy's mistake was out of character, he is the best LB in the PL by a margin in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2008, 02:14:36 PM
Fair enough post SE but other than Clichy's slip last night when were these other mistakes that you talk about for Clichy and Gallas?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on October 30, 2008, 02:18:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 30, 2008, 02:12:58 PM
Clichy's mistake was out of character, he is the best LB in the PL by a margin in my opinion.

No chance, Evra is a far better player
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on October 30, 2008, 02:20:19 PM
Quote from: full back on October 30, 2008, 02:18:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 30, 2008, 02:12:58 PM
Clichy's mistake was out of character, he is the best LB in the PL by a margin in my opinion.

No chance, Evra is a far better player

He isnt
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The GAA on October 30, 2008, 02:20:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2008, 01:47:58 PM
March 20th 2008 Chelsea 4 - Spurs 4  ::)

Some people really should try better

there were three strands to that question...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2008, 02:32:07 PM
Quotewhen did united, chelsea or liverpool last concede 4?

???

So assuming want the answer for all three, I think Man U was two seasons ago Blackburn beat them 4-3 and for Liverpool (a very defensive team) I think Arsenal beat them 6-3 in 2007. Really fail to see your point Arsenal before last nights game had conceded the same amount of goals as Liverpool but with a much better goals for record.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The GAA on October 30, 2008, 02:36:30 PM

arsena concede far too many goals. as has been said about them for two years or more now, they need a keeper, a dm and a centre half
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 30, 2008, 04:53:22 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2008, 02:14:36 PM
Fair enough post SE but other than Clichy's slip last night when were these other mistakes that you talk about for Clichy and Gallas?

Gallas' behaviour as captain against Birmingham last year was a mistake IMHO. Also I think that perhaps Clichy made an error in that game too, although I don't agree that young Clichy is a 'problem' for Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2008, 05:13:11 PM
He was behaviour was shocking but considering the circumstances he can be excused and is hardly a mistake, inappropiate yes mistake no. Clichy played a loose pass in that game recovered well but the referee made a shocking decision and awarded a penalty to Birmingham.

Those two are not Senderos, Arsenal's back four are very dependable but suffer from a lack of height and when defending a lead will sit too deep and that height problem then becomes an issue, needless to say corners and set-pieces are the ruination of Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 30, 2008, 06:46:03 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2008, 05:13:11 PM
He was behaviour was shocking but considering the circumstances he can be excused and is hardly a mistake, inappropiate yes mistake no. Clichy played a loose pass in that game recovered well but the referee made a shocking decision and awarded a penalty to Birmingham.

Those two are not Senderos, Arsenal's back four are very dependable but suffer from a lack of height and when defending a lead will sit too deep and that height problem then becomes an issue, needless to say corners and set-pieces are the ruination of Arsenal.

Just noticed that it's Stoke and Rory Delap this Saturday. I'd say the tabloids will be milking this angle for Saturday morning's previews.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2008, 06:51:08 PM
Exactly NT. Dreading that. Hopefully there'll be 3-4 in the other net.

An all-French back 4 - not the force (as a nation) as they were - coincided with Arsene's best years.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on October 30, 2008, 09:30:03 PM
QuoteFair play to Spurs - you drew a match - cue wild celebrations.

In the same way Arsenal do when they draw against United?  ;)
Title: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: T Fearon on November 01, 2008, 05:06:12 PM
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: Square Ball on November 01, 2008, 05:13:37 PM
but they scored, should that not be Arse-one
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggysego on November 01, 2008, 05:17:42 PM
It's you hardstation!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggysego on November 01, 2008, 05:23:53 PM
More like Agent 99
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 01, 2008, 05:54:05 PM
just when i thought the week could not get any worse.  i am afraid man utd next saturday will be a masacree. With van persie suspended, walcott and adebayor injured things do not look good. we would be llukcy to escape with a draw
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on November 01, 2008, 06:12:34 PM
Bloody depressing made worse by the fact that I was watching the whole thing live on the net!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2008, 06:32:34 PM
I'm out of it on stout.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on November 01, 2008, 07:33:06 PM
Pass the bottle :(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 01, 2008, 07:37:53 PM
I'm afraid Arsene no longer knows  :(

He'll have to buy in January, will make or break him
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: milltown row on November 01, 2008, 07:41:56 PM
di*kheads beat my bet. total nob heads. serious contenders????? my arse
Title: Re: Lets all laugh at Arse-nil
Post by: Owenmoresider on November 02, 2008, 02:03:47 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on November 01, 2008, 05:06:12 PM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Beaten by Stoke, plus picking up injuries, silly red cards, and another Almunia blunder. Marvellous.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on November 02, 2008, 03:35:21 PM
we are pathetic and need to spend big time.
perhaps wenger has lost the dressing room - no doubt we will hear something on this over the week. The points we hae dropped this season are inexcusable and is it time for changes throughout the club?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: YogiBear on November 03, 2008, 02:15:40 PM
I hope we lose the next five games so the board are forced into taking action against Wenger.  He is a joke and a disgrace.  He has turned us into a laughing stock who no longer can strike fear into any team Stoke were relishing the change to place us as spineless and softies were just some of the words they used to describe us. 
I am now convinced Wenger is not the great coach I thought he was.  All the titles he won he had a defence that he inherited who were awesome.  He has not replaced any of them with any quality.  He is good offensive coach but has not a clue about defending so we are paying the price.  We will win nothing ever again with this clown as manger.  Really hate Wenger and the sooner he moves up stairs the better.   We are leaderless both on and off the Field.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 03, 2008, 03:47:30 PM
Quote from: YogiBear on November 03, 2008, 02:15:40 PM
I hope we lose the next five games so the board are forced into taking action against Wenger.  He is a joke and a disgrace.  He has turned us into a laughing stock who no longer can strike fear into any team Stoke were relishing the change to place us as spineless and softies were just some of the words they used to describe us. 
I am now convinced Wenger is not the great coach I thought he was.  All the titles he won he had a defence that he inherited who were awesome.  He has not replaced any of them with any quality.  He is good offensive coach but has not a clue about defending so we are paying the price.  We will win nothing ever again with this clown as manger.  Really hate Wenger and the sooner he moves up stairs the better.   We are leaderless both on and off the Field.

::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2008, 07:24:02 PM
Arsenal have sort-of managed to get away with it. Despite dropping 5 points from 6, they still only find themselves 6 off the lead. Wenger says this season could be more about beating the top-guns for his side in order to maintain some kind of challenge. Saturday morning's game v Manure is massive.

Black November is an Arsenal trait. I still believe in Arsene.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 03, 2008, 10:06:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 03, 2008, 07:24:02 PM
Arsenal have sort-of managed to get away with it. Despite dropping 5 points from 6, they still only find themselves 6 off the lead. Wenger says this season could be more about beating the top-guns for his side in order to maintain some kind of challenge. Saturday morning's game v Manure is massive.

Black November is an Arsenal trait. I still believe in Arsene.

And tonight's game helps too!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on November 03, 2008, 10:07:55 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 03, 2008, 10:06:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 03, 2008, 07:24:02 PM
Arsenal have sort-of managed to get away with it. Despite dropping 5 points from 6, they still only find themselves 6 off the lead. Wenger says this season could be more about beating the top-guns for his side in order to maintain some kind of challenge. Saturday morning's game v Manure is massive.

Black November is an Arsenal trait. I still believe in Arsene.

And tonight's game helps too!

Depending on their aspirations for this season.........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on November 03, 2008, 11:05:37 PM
Just discovered I have Arsenal TV free!

34 mins gone Arsenal reserves 0 Fulham reserves 0.

All small fast skillful players, I would like to see a few more Viera's and proper Centre halves.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on November 03, 2008, 11:12:34 PM
Goal Arsenal

Brilliant 30 yards strike by some one called Amaury Bischoff.

Age 21
Born France
Position Midfield
Height 3 foot 3 inches.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: billy the kid on November 05, 2008, 04:37:01 PM
Does anyone know where I could view the Gunners or Celtic V Man U online?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on November 05, 2008, 07:16:32 PM
http://www.myp2p.eu/competition.php?competitionid=&part=sports&discipline=football


Try here to watch the match
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 05, 2008, 07:32:59 PM
Big changes from le boss. Great to see it. Almunia huffing.

Ramsey to shake up European football tonight. Or we'll lose 2-0.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 05, 2008, 09:40:45 PM
If I had tits, they'd be off me. Clean. Bored.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 06, 2008, 01:27:58 AM
How did Fabianski play O'Neill?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on November 06, 2008, 10:07:00 AM
I see Wenger is blaming referees again after last nights game, has he got a point?  Are Gooners being targeted as 'soft touches' by opponents?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 06, 2008, 10:29:49 AM
I think there is little doubt that people see Gallas' men as soft touches. Could the refs protect them more? Maybe they could but blaming the refs is only a diversion tactic by Wenger, and a shrewd move too. The spotlight and thus the pressure is now firmly on the man in the middle this Saturday morning to be watching for challanges that are deisgned to intimidate the Goons.

I don't think O'Neill, Dinny and co would argue that Arsenal badly lack leadership primarilly but also a ball winning midfielder which is a by word for 'dirty w***e', and a centre half. Possibly a keeper too, but what I seen of Fabianski might suggest he's the answer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 06, 2008, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 06, 2008, 10:29:49 AM
I think there is little doubt that people see Gallas' men as soft touches. Could the refs protect them more? Maybe they could but blaming the refs is only a diversion tactic by Wenger, and a shrewd move too. The spotlight and thus the pressure is now firmly on the man in the middle this Saturday morning to be watching for challanges that are deisgned to intimidate the Goons.

I don't think O'Neill, Dinny and co would argue that Arsenal badly lack leadership primarilly but also a ball winning midfielder which is a by word for 'dirty w***e', and a centre half. Possibly a keeper too, but what I seen of Fabianski might suggest he's the answer.

On the button, I'm actually disappointed Fabregas has stood up and shown leadership qualities, I always thought he was captain elect. RVP and Clichy to me seem to the only ones with a bit of bite at the moment.

To paraphrase Sgt. Red O'Neill 'I have got a bad feeling about this Saturday'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 06, 2008, 01:02:08 PM
I actually have a funny feeling Arsenal could get something from Saturday's game. These games tend to not go the way it's expected to in the build up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 07, 2008, 08:10:36 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 06, 2008, 01:27:58 AM
How did Fabianski play O'Neill?

Not really tested. One poor decision that was almost costly.

Always looked forward to the Utd games, more so than any others. Did the double over them in 06/07, a draw and defeat last year so it has been fairly even in recent years.

However, crapping myself a wee bit about this. The last time Arsenal played Utd depleted was the 6-1 game 8-9 years ago. On the other hand, the pressure's off somewhat (2-1 odds at home). Time for a wee bit of freedom from a side stifled with frustration. Fabregas has been a shell of the player he was during the summer - probably serious burnout given his age. Can Bendtner step up to the mark? He's cocky enough to think he can. Walcott's injury has been kept under wraps so I wouldn't be surprised to see him tomorrow. Utd at full strength mostly v Arsenal without RVP, Eboue, Sagna and Adebayor as well as crushed confidence....the bookies aren't wrong. AW has pulled these games out of the fire before. Don't know what to think. Head says 2-0 Utd (Rooney/Berb). Heart 2-1 Gooners (Vela/Nasri)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 08, 2008, 01:28:11 PM
some brutal refereeing decisions here. its normally the home team that get decisions not the other way around! >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 08, 2008, 02:46:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 07, 2008, 08:10:36 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 06, 2008, 01:27:58 AM
How did Fabianski play O'Neill?

Not really tested. One poor decision that was almost costly.

Always looked forward to the Utd games, more so than any others. Did the double over them in 06/07, a draw and defeat last year so it has been fairly even in recent years.

However, crapping myself a wee bit about this. The last time Arsenal played Utd depleted was the 6-1 game 8-9 years ago. On the other hand, the pressure's off somewhat (2-1 odds at home). Time for a wee bit of freedom from a side stifled with frustration. Fabregas has been a shell of the player he was during the summer - probably serious burnout given his age. Can Bendtner step up to the mark? He's cocky enough to think he can. Walcott's injury has been kept under wraps so I wouldn't be surprised to see him tomorrow. Utd at full strength mostly v Arsenal without RVP, Eboue, Sagna and Adebayor as well as crushed confidence....the bookies aren't wrong. AW has pulled these games out of the fire before. Don't know what to think. Head says 2-0 Utd (Rooney/Berb). Heart 2-1 Gooners (Vela/Nasri)

Good shout O'Neill!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 08, 2008, 04:36:33 PM
Good result, Man U reminded me off Arsenal at times very toothless up front and Berbatov is just a luxury player. If teams play football against Arsenal they generally is only one winner but Utd out passed Arsenal today and Anderson kept Fabregas very quiet but it was Arsenal's work-rate without the ball that was fantastic too watch, Bentner really worked hard and deserved a goal, Nasri tormented the Neviller and he looked the player that everyone thought Helb would be. Clichy was out-standing and was my motm, Arsenal really won this game down the left.

Kudos to Keane for speaking out against the Media witch hunt of Wenger, wonder will they eat humble pie in the tabloids tomorrow. Plenty to build on and still only 6 points behind, good day for the Goons.

P.S Keep up those feelings Norf Tyrone
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 08, 2008, 10:03:38 PM
Dinny I feel unclean thinking like that!

Traditionally I find that when one of the so called big 4 are backs to the wall, they produce a result. In addition this year as soon as a team are started to be built up (See Chelsea and Lpool for example) or pulled down (Spurs or Stoke for example) they also tend to get a result.

It has the potential to be the best ever Premiership season because of this if it keeps up!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 08, 2008, 10:50:23 PM
100% there NT. There was always the sneaking feeling that Arsenal would fight tooth and nail after the media focus this week. Arsenal were rather fortunate in that Rooney and Ronaldo couldn't hit a barn door today. At the same time, Utd were gaping at the back and you feel that if RVP or Ade had been on at 2-0 in those last 20 mins, Arsenal could have run up 3-4 goals.

Nasri's workrate was immense and although Hleb was pleasing on the eye, Nasri has almost scored more in 3 months than Hleb did in 3 years. If Arsenal can get Rosicky and Eduardo back to complement a full hand, Arsenal won't be far away. Still suspect at the back, more so than Liverpool and Chelsea. Fabregas badly needs a break.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 08, 2008, 11:19:11 PM
Not fancying that Arsenal defence. Gave too much space to Ronaldo and if he'd been on it the result would have been different.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on November 09, 2008, 03:54:44 AM
Bentdner's finishing just isn't good enough. When Adebyaor & Eduardo are both fit along with Van Persie & Vela, I don't think there will be a place for Bendtner in the panel. Wenger should sell him in January and pay whatever it takes to get a big centre half to shore up a dodgy looking defence. I think Fabianski has shown enough to justify a run in the first team.

If we get Rosicky back soon we still might give the premiership a run this season.

My prefered 1st 11  from the current panel are:     
                 Fabianski

  Sagna     Toure     Gallas    Clichy

Walcott    Fabregas  Diaby   Rosicky

        Adebyaor    Eduardo

Subs    Almunia, Silvestre, Denilson, Van Persie, Song.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on November 09, 2008, 05:39:00 AM
Awesome win for the Gunners against the Manc's. Hopefully this will drive us on to get a few results and to close in on chelski and the pool...Im still not convinced by Bendtner myself but Wenger must see something in him, if he comes good he could score a few important goals what with the number of chances he gets. I would like to see a big centre half brought in along side gallas and Kolo going to centre midfield alongside cesc. kolo play the holding roll and let cesc pull the strings. Rosickys injury must have been bad, hes been out a long time, heard at one stage his career was being questioned, hopefully he and eduardo come back in after xmas along with a few new faces we could pick up sonme silverware and with good vibes about Vela we aint short in strikers! my preferred line up would be

GK Almunia / Fabianski
RB Sagna
LB Clichy
CB Gallas
CB Metzhelder / Toure
RM Theo
DM Toure / Diaby
AM Cesc
LM Nasri / Rosicky
CF Adebayor / RVP
CF Eduardo
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on November 11, 2008, 11:32:10 AM
looking forward to seeing some of the youngsters getting a run tonight in the carling cup. this competition will bring the likes vela, ramsey and wilshere on leaps and bounds..and no doubt unearth a few other gems that wenger has kept from us!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: billy the kid on November 11, 2008, 12:39:53 PM
Any idea where tonites game could be caught on internet or radio.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on November 11, 2008, 01:06:21 PM
its on sky sports 1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: billy the kid on November 11, 2008, 01:10:09 PM
Dont ave sky, Is it on the radio as I will be on the road at that time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on November 11, 2008, 01:12:18 PM
There are Updates on BBC Radio 5 Live, but dont think its live
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 11, 2008, 01:33:00 PM
i see Amaury Bischoff is set to make his debut tonnight. he could be what we are missing in midfield!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Bensars on November 11, 2008, 01:38:09 PM
Just seen this. Most of you gooners may have already seen this.

(http://i37.tinypic.com/azb9n5.gif)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on November 11, 2008, 01:56:22 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on November 11, 2008, 12:39:53 PM
Any idea where tonites game could be caught on internet or radio.

justin.tv.  Just log on a couple of minutes before kick off and you'll be able to watch Sky Sports coverage of the game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 11, 2008, 11:34:00 PM
Another good win for the kids:

http://www.boxofficefootball.com/arsenal-vs-wigan-athletic-live/

Highlights were Wilshire's pass for the first goal, devastating counter for the second and Vela's chip for the third.

Seems to be a pattern every year. The U18s are too good for most senior sides until the semis or final. I think they said the average age was 17.9 tonight!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on November 11, 2008, 11:49:54 PM
Any posters on this thread 'silver' members of Arsenal by any chance?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 11, 2008, 11:54:30 PM
Third year as a red. Probably a few years to go yet before an upgrade. Looking for a ticket?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 11, 2008, 11:59:25 PM

Premier League - Rosicky in operation blow

Eurosport - Tue, 11 Nov 23:38:00 2008

Arsenal midfielder Tomas Rosicky has undergone further surgery on a tendon injury which has sidelined the Czech Republic international since January.

The 28-year-old suffered the injury in an FA Cup tie against Newcastle on January 26 but has made slower progress than expected after originally having surgery back in May.

A statement released by Arsenal read: "Tomas Rosicky yesterday underwent routine revision surgery in Germany.

"The operation went as planned and Tomas will now spend at least a few weeks convalescing in Germany.

"Thereafter he will follow a tailored rehabilitation programme devised by our medical team."

The injury has restricted Rosicky to just 61 first-team appearances for the Gunners since joining from Borussia Dortmund in May 2006.

It is not yet clear when he will be fit to return to training.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on November 12, 2008, 12:03:24 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 11, 2008, 11:54:30 PM
Third year as a red. Probably a few years to go yet before an upgrade. Looking for a ticket?

No. Red myself for 3 years. Have a mate who is a silver and he was llooking to team up with someone and maybe lend for certain matches. Would be advantageous to both.
I in the same boat as you but could be years before I get offered a silver.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 12, 2008, 12:07:58 AM
The neighbour's a silver but I think he has it tied up with a Belfast pub. Will ask to make sure.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 12, 2008, 08:40:33 AM
Vela I think will be a superstar, good week to be a Gooner...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on November 12, 2008, 08:47:09 AM
As a Utd fan I was very impressed with the Arsenal young lads last night.  Fair play to Wenger for giving them the chance and they repaid him in full.  Hard to believe some gunners fans want a change at the top.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: lurganblue on November 12, 2008, 09:02:34 AM
only caught about 20 mins of this but i was really surprised at the quality of the youngsters at arsenal. where do they keep pulling these left backs from? that lads gibbs look very good....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: YogiBear on November 12, 2008, 09:25:56 AM
Great performance by the kids last nite.  Hope Wenger can keep a hold of the main ones and they dont get restless to young and start to look elswhere for first team football.   As with any bunch of kids if we can four or five through to the first team over the next few years we will be doing well.  Think Rambo is ready to steo up now and Vela probably next year.   The rest we may just have to wait a bit longer
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on November 12, 2008, 09:26:15 AM
Quote from: under the bar on November 12, 2008, 08:47:09 AM
As a Utd fan I was very impressed with the Arsenal young lads last night.  Fair play to Wenger for giving them the chance and they repaid him in full.  Hard to believe some gunners fans want a change at the top.

i cant believe gooners would want some one new in charge..there is no one else in world football could do the job as well as AW.

Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 12, 2008, 08:40:33 AM
Vela I think will be a superstar, good week to be a Gooner...

Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 12, 2008, 08:40:33 AM
Vela I think will be a superstar, good week to be a Gooner...

Have been keeping an eye on him since arsenal signed him, when he went to spain apparently he was outstanding and would have been back to AFC only for Visa problems. hopefully he makes the step up from reserves and gets a chance to show what he can do. his pace for the second goal was brilliant, similar to Eduardo but quicker!

When he gets to the stage that he wants to quit managing, Arsene HAS TO BE KEPT AT ARSENAL! but unfortunately i can see him getting a youth performance job with French Football Assoc.!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on November 12, 2008, 09:29:43 AM
Asenal have the best young players in the premiership no doubt

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on November 12, 2008, 09:59:20 AM
Quote from: Gaffer on November 12, 2008, 12:03:24 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 11, 2008, 11:54:30 PM
Third year as a red. Probably a few years to go yet before an upgrade. Looking for a ticket?

No. Red myself for 3 years. Have a mate who is a silver and he was llooking to team up with someone and maybe lend for certain matches. Would be advantageous to both.
I in the same boat as you but could be years before I get offered a silver.

Red myself too.  From what I hear the waiting list is up to 7 or 8 years before you become Silver.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on November 12, 2008, 10:11:13 AM
How did Arsenal reserves do last year and how are they doing this year?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on November 12, 2008, 01:39:59 PM
QuoteArsene HAS TO BE KEPT AT ARSENAL! but unfortunately i can see him getting a youth performance job with French Football Assoc.!

I should expect that the FFF will be offering him a slightly higher profile job than youth performance. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on November 12, 2008, 09:41:27 PM
Quote from: jaykay on November 12, 2008, 09:59:20 AM
Quote from: Gaffer on November 12, 2008, 12:03:24 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 11, 2008, 11:54:30 PM
Third year as a red. Probably a few years to go yet before an upgrade. Looking for a ticket?

No. Red myself for 3 years. Have a mate who is a silver and he was llooking to team up with someone and maybe lend for certain matches. Would be advantageous to both.
I in the same boat as you but could be years before I get offered a silver.

Red myself too.  From what I hear the waiting list is up to 7 or 8 years before you become Silver.

I would be delighted if that were true but a large number of people joined Red in 2006 when they moved to the Emirates so it could be alot longer than 7 or 8 unfortunately.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on November 13, 2008, 12:40:33 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on November 12, 2008, 01:39:59 PM
QuoteArsene HAS TO BE KEPT AT ARSENAL! but unfortunately i can see him getting a youth performance job with French Football Assoc.!

I should expect that the FFF will be offering him a slightly higher profile job than youth performance. 

I know that was just saying it will probably be a job in that area!

On another note i hope rosicky comes through rehab ok, the injury must have been pretty severe for him to be out so long!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Niall Quinn on November 14, 2008, 03:45:10 AM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on November 12, 2008, 09:29:43 AM
Asenal have the best young players in the premiership no doubt

But sometimes they can come across just a little to 'playerish' don't you think?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on November 15, 2008, 01:07:54 AM
massive game this week against the villans..3 points a must!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on November 15, 2008, 10:07:00 AM
Think this game is perfect for the Gooners, on the back of last weeks win against Utd coupled with Villas recent poor form.  We have played well though on our last two visits to the Emirates, Arsenal needed a late late Bendter goal last season to rescue a point and the season previous Villa scored the first ever league goal there.
Anyway, would be delighted with a draw.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 15, 2008, 10:27:56 AM
If this is a draw/loss, I'm going to wreck the house. Arsenal cannot afford to drop points immediately after beating Manure, especially at home. Villa are a tough nut and Agbonlawhore and Carew (if fit) are the type of players Arsenal struggles with.

However, if Adebayor plays I can see a 2-0 victory with the Togo man (Togonese?) scoring both.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on November 15, 2008, 10:45:04 AM
We need to get a bit of momentum going like this time last year. Inconsistent at the moment. You dont know which Arsenal is going to turn up today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 15, 2008, 05:14:30 PM
!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on November 15, 2008, 05:24:28 PM
Hope the house is not too bad O'Neill :D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on November 15, 2008, 05:35:43 PM
Is the house wrecked O Neill?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 15, 2008, 05:39:09 PM
The wife's in the corner shivering.

Lifeless. Clueless. Predictable. Lame. Title challenge over. Fcuk it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: fred the red on November 15, 2008, 05:41:52 PM
How many defeats is that now in the league this season?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 15, 2008, 05:43:03 PM
4. And to middlin teams.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on November 15, 2008, 05:43:45 PM
I wonder will the "Wenger out" brigade be out in force again?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: fred the red on November 15, 2008, 05:46:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 15, 2008, 05:43:03 PM
4. And to middlin teams.

f**k thats frustrating. Whats your views on wenger then oneill, do you believe its time to give the job to someone else?

im not an arsenal fan, but i believe martin o'neill could do wonders there(though the silky skills would be minimilised)

question- are arsenal supporters happier under the current regime, or under George Grahams tenure?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on November 15, 2008, 05:48:25 PM
I would love to see O Neill get a job at one of the top four just to see if is as good as some people believe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on November 15, 2008, 06:12:18 PM
ah the heartbreak of loving arsenal. Just as they give you a glimmer of hope.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 15, 2008, 06:24:01 PM
Jees would take Wenger's football 100 million times over Graham. Don't forget, twas only 4 seasons ago that he managed to go through a league season unbeaten.

I think AW is trying to win the league playing total football. And I mean total.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 15, 2008, 06:44:42 PM
I think the best Arsenal can do now is stay as close to the top 2 as possible, not with pretentions of winning the league, but in order to stay in the top 4. Away games now to City and Chelsea.

I'm sure Arsenal can still salvage something from the season (they usually have a 10-game unbeaten streak at some stage). Can't see both Chelsea and Liverpool collapsing so probably need to look at the CL. Get qualified and when it resumes in February, get going.

I can see what AW wants to achieve and last year he almost managed it; finished 4 points behind playing dreamy football. However, their main rivals just keep buying top class talent to replace anyone on the wane. Arsene doesn't and simply breeds new young talent to take their place. 4 years (now nearing 5) without a title tells the tale.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on November 15, 2008, 09:41:35 PM
QuoteIf this is a draw/loss, I'm going to wreck the house.

! bottle of buckie and 6 stella required.

QuoteHowever, if Adebayor plays I can see a 2-0 victory with the Togo man (Togonese?) scoring both.

It's Togolese. Feck me aren't you a teacher?  Please say it's PE! 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 15, 2008, 09:47:14 PM
Geography.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 16, 2008, 12:03:40 AM
Wenger would need to seriously consider played a couple of the Carling squad. The most alarming negative is Fabregas. He plays like a man running on empty - his passes are lazier and doesn't seem to be making the late runs a la last season. How much of that is down to his increased workload since Flamini's departure I don't know. Denilson is not providing the same level of cover. As much as Wenger loves his 'footballers', he need a player who'll do the agricultural stuff.

Bendtner offers zilch as a lone striker. He's not fast and he's not all that intelligent in possession. When Adebayor same on, Arsenal looked more threatening. Walcott also looks like a player who has little left in the tank and needs a month off. Nasri was non-existent; disappointing after last week's exertions. Diaby is not a RVP, feeding off the striker.

Hard to know what AW can do with this squad, except use Ramsey and the like in order to give the regulars time to regain some semblance of consistent form. Arsenal aren't a team to fear at the minute, even by the likes of WBA. Tired, lifeless and devoid of creativity so needed for this side to be effective.
Title: Great News!
Post by: ONeill on November 19, 2008, 09:37:06 AM
Int Football - Walcott out after dislocating shoulder
Arsene Wenger's dislike of international friendlies is set to intensify after Arsenal's Theo Walcott suffered a dislocated shoulder in training ahead of England's encounter with Germany in Berlin.


The 19-year-old was taken to hospital in agony after suffering the dislocation in a freak accident as he fell in the rain at the Olympic Stadium.

Although Walcott's shoulder was quickly put back into place, the player was in understandable discomfort when he returned to England's team hotel, where an assessment will be made in the morning over his return to London.

"Our priority is Theo and making him as comfortable as possible before he returns to England," said coach Fabio Capello.

"We are all very disappointed but the important thing is for Theo to travel home and make a quick recovery."

An hour earlier, Capello had been stressing how understanding England's major club bosses were over his new philosophy for examining players apparently unfit for international combat only a few days after completing duties for the teams which pay their wages.

If ever there was a test of Capello's relationships, this will be it.

Along with Sir Alex Ferguson, Rafael Benitez and Martin O'Neill, Wenger has never made any secret of his belief that friendly matches are a meaningless inclusion in a packed schedule.

And in the immediate aftermath of his side's defeat to Aston Villa on Saturday, he again outlined his opposition to this week's matches.

"It is particularly not welcome at the moment because it is at a period where you want your players to recover a little bit," he said.

"I don't see what you gain from this friendly because there is no game. You can explain a friendly to prepare for an official match but after this there is no international game for four months."

As he digests the news from Germany, Wenger will know Arsenal are the ones who will suffer most from Walcott's unfortunate accident.

With eight major stars missing already, the loss of Walcott is just another name added to that list.

His absence gives someone else, probably Shaun Wright-Phillips, an opportunity to excel in a makeshift team, with Capello knowing Walcott will be fully fit again before England resume their World Cup qualifying campaign against the Ukraine on April 1.

For Wenger, the consequences are much more immediate and far-reaching.

Last season, Derby midfielder Stephen Pearson was ruled out for a month after suffering a similar injury.

If Walcott equalled that timescale, he would miss four league games and the rest of Arsenal's Champions League group campaign.

That would include key visits to Manchester City and Chelsea, with Liverpool due at the Emirates on December 21, while Arsenal's place in the Champions League knock-out phase is by no means secure even though they currently top Group G.

Wenger's opinion is not hard to guess and the fall-out could be explosive, no matter what soothing words the FA tried to use in their statement confirming Walcott's injury.

"During tonight's training session Theo Walcott dislocated his right shoulder after falling on the pitch," said an FA statement.

"Theo was taken to hospital, where he has had the shoulder put back into place.

"Theo will return to the team hotel and a decision will be made in the morning by the medical staff as to when Theo can fly home.

"Arsenal's medical staff were advised of the injury soon after the incident."

Eurosport
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on November 19, 2008, 01:36:41 PM
The news re: Walcott sould make the battle for 4th spot interesting for a while at least.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on November 20, 2008, 07:08:06 PM
What the hell is William warbling about?

From BBC

Gallas questions Arsenal courage 

Gallas says Arsenal's dressing room is becoming increasingly fractious
Arsenal captain William Gallas has warned the Gunners' young stars that they are "not brave enough" to challenge for the Premier League title.

Saturday's 2-0 defeat by Aston Villa made it four losses in total this term for Arsenal, leaving them nine points adrift of Chelsea and Liverpool.

And 31-year-old Gallas said: "We are not brave enough in battle.

"I think we need to be soldiers. To be champions, you have to play big matches every weekend and fight."

Speaking to the Associated Press, he added: "We are coming up against teams who are not scared to play football against us, who are not scared to take us on at our place, and this is becoming dangerous for Arsenal.

"We have to be warriors. That is how the team will forge their character and experience."

Frenchman Gallas has come under severe personal scrutiny as Arsenal skipper, most recently receiving criticism after being photographed leaving a nightclub with a cigarette in his mouth.

And he was also barracked following a show of petulance at the end of his side's 2-2 draw with Birmingham City last season - and he has admitted friction is creeping into the Arsenal camp.


"There was a problem at half-time of the 4-4 draw with Tottenham," he said. "The only thing that I could say at half-time was 'guys, we resolve these problems after the match, not at halftime'."

Gallas revealed that on another occasion some Arsenal players had been insulted by their own team-mate.

"When as captain some players come up to you and talk to you about a player... complaining about him... and then during the match you speak to this player and the player in question insults us, there comes a time where we can no longer comprehend how this can happen," he said.

Gallas would not reveal the player's name, although he said the incident occurred during an attacking phase of play, saying: "I am trying to defend myself a bit without giving names. Otherwise I'm taking it all (the blame). I'm 31, the player is six years younger than me."

Still, the centre-half believes his side can still challenge for honours this season, though he added another season without silverware "would be a kind of failure".

"I have to win something this year. I have to win something, Arsenal has to win something. It's four or five years since Arsenal won anything - 2004 (the league title). That's nearly five years, and that's not good.

"(Big contracts) make the difference, perhaps. You can rest on your laurels, that's for sure."

Arsenal travel to Manchester City in the league on Saturday hoping to avoid their first back-to-back defeats in 58 Premier League encounters.


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on November 20, 2008, 07:31:41 PM
Robin Van Persie then...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on November 21, 2008, 08:06:44 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 20, 2008, 07:31:41 PM
Robin Van Persie then...

Thats the name that seems to be mentioned. The Dutch can be a little too honest for their own good.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on November 21, 2008, 08:26:45 AM
I would sat Gallas would be as well looking at how he is performing as captain before starting this sh1te :-\
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on November 21, 2008, 09:06:23 AM
Could you imagine Patrick Viera or Roy KEane belating about "a player 6 years younger picking on me"?  Time to admit you picked the wrong man as captain Arsene.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 21, 2008, 10:56:36 AM
time a new captain was appointed. This has to be the final straw with gallas. Cesc or Toure for the job?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 21, 2008, 03:21:01 PM
Billy G is a bit touched in my humble opinion. I notice he still hasn't got round to taking José to court for claiming Gallas was going to deliberately score an OG.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 21, 2008, 03:40:04 PM
What's happening to this great club?

Ok, still 4th in the league, in the CL and cup, but something's badly wrong within the squad and although a great player, Gallas is doing little to address it in the appropriate manner as capt.

I never liked the attitudes of Adebayor, Eboue, RVP and Bendtner. Something a bit prima donna about them, especially with no league titles to their name.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 21, 2008, 03:48:29 PM
Bitching again:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/21112008/58/int-football-gallas-slams-cheeky-french-team-mate.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on November 21, 2008, 03:51:47 PM
Gallas is an excellent defender in his own right, he should not have the added responsibility of being captain. I would have Vela on before Bendtner, who is crap, and even more crap when he is being asked to play as a lone striker. He does not have the pace or mobility.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on November 21, 2008, 03:54:02 PM
Wenger is becoming an even bigger pain in the hole than he already was..The man seems stressed  and not happy to me,always giving out and complaining about something..
Had a go and internationl players this week...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 21, 2008, 03:58:54 PM
At International Players, or at friendly Internationals? A lot of club managers have no time for Internationals, including Rafa. Having said that, I think Wenger is getting frustrated this past few years. Either he cannot or will not buy some experienced players to bolster his fantastic youth development policy, and it's costing them in terms of consistency. On any given day Arsenal can beat any of the top teams, but their struggles against some of the lesser lights is indicative of either not being able to get 'up' for those games, or else not being experienced enough or deep enough to survive in adversity.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on November 21, 2008, 04:03:37 PM
he needs to get out the chequebook and buy Andy Reid
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on November 21, 2008, 04:06:43 PM
Wenger Fury at no shows

By Chris Burton   Last updated: 21st November 2008




Arsene Wenger wants Fifa to punish those sides who withdraw players from international friendlies.

The Arsenal boss is furious at clubs that continue to pull their key men from international duty, only to then call upon those stars when domestic action resume days later.

The Frenchman insists that he never prevents any members of his squad from joining up with their respective countries, but feels that policy now puts him in the minority.

Arsenal's Premier League title rivals Liverpool and Chelsea both withdrew players ahead of the midweek round of fixtures, while Manchester United ruled out Wayne Rooney and Rio Ferdinand before England boss Fabio Capello had announced his squad to face Germany.

The Gunners, though, paid the price for their leniency, as Theo Walcott is facing three months on the sidelines after dislocating his shoulder while training with the Three Lions in Berlin.

It is precisely that kind of situation which top clubs are unwilling to risk, but Wenger believes any player who failed to fulfil their commitments to their country should be barred from playing in their club's next game.

"It would be very interesting for Fifa and Uefa to make a study of players who have not played in any national team and who will play on Saturday or on Tuesday and Wednesday in the Champions League," said the Gunners chief.

"That would be the interesting thing to see.

Cautious
"I just think it's a sad situation that a friendly game was before games five and six in the Champions League and before important league fixtures.

"Many players have pulled out because this friendly is very badly positioned.

"We've never withdrawn any player. Our players, unless they have a big injury, we send them.

"We ask them to be cautious with them, especially in friendlies - and this usually happens with national teams because they are not crazy.

"The rules exist. If players are injured and did not play the game before, they do not have to report for the game.

"If the player has played in the game before, you have to send them to get examined by the doctor and they decide if a player comes back or not.

"Theoretically, if you do not play in the national team, you cannot play in the game after in the championship - that is the rule. That is why we always send our players.

"You have to ask the question is the fixture wrong or are the players wrong? I say the fixture."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on November 21, 2008, 05:59:54 PM
Gallas has been stripped of the Arsenal captaincy and dropped from the squad for tomorrows game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on November 21, 2008, 06:52:19 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on November 21, 2008, 05:59:54 PM
Gallas has been stripped of the Arsenal captaincy and dropped from the squad for tomorrows game

Jaysus what is their defence going to be like tomorrow?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 21, 2008, 07:40:49 PM
Tomorrow

No Toure
No Gallas
No Fabregas
No Walcott
No Eboue

Time for the wannabes to beabes.

Good call Nigel:


Gallas will stay on - Winterburn

Former Gunner Nigel Winterburn insists Arsene Wenger will not sack William Gallas as Arsenal captain, despite the defender's public attack on his team.

Gallas launched a stunning critique of his team-mates, revealing the mood in the camp has become fractious.

But Winterburn, who made 440 appearances in 13 years at Arsenal, told BBC Radio 5 Live: "I know Arsene and he'll be very hurt by the comments.

"But sacking Gallas would undermine everything about Arsenal right now."

It is not the first time Frenchman Gallas's position as skipper has been called into question this year.

His petulant reaction to last season's draw with Birmingham drew heavy criticism and earlier this campaign, he was photographed with a cigarette in his mouth leaving a nightclub.

His most recent comments have further angered Arsenal fans after he revealed he was forced to break up a fight in the dressing room during the Gunners' 4-4 draw with Tottenham while accusing an unnamed player of disrupting team morale.

Many supporters have called for Gallas to be demoted as captain, but Winterburn said: "In my view he won't sack Gallas.

"Arsene has put his trust in Gallas to lead Arsenal forward - to suddenly turn round and sack him says I don't trust you as a player.

"And if you don't trust him as a player it also means he's not going to pick him. Is he going to do that? I don't think so."

Bobby Barnes, assistant chief executive of the Professional Footballers' Association, said his organisation was not overly concerned by Gallas' comments.
   
"There are disputes at every club, every day, just like there are in other places of work," the former West Ham midfielder told BBC Sport.

"In a dressing room, there are always different personalities and dynamics.

"It's just unfortunate that this has come into the public domain. I visit Arsenal regularly and they have one of the most friendly and polite atmospheres of any club.

"The team spirit is good and it's a very well-run club."



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on November 21, 2008, 10:39:48 PM
I remember a few years ago a cerain Mr Keane, in an infamous MUTV interview, lambasting some of the younger Utd players for their attitude. He was lauded in certain quarters for calling a spade a spade.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 21, 2008, 11:17:07 PM
Gallas has tried this before. Didn't work. The fact that Wenger has stripped him of captancy suggests he has had enough too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on November 22, 2008, 09:06:38 AM
Quote from: Minder on November 21, 2008, 10:39:48 PM
I remember a few years ago a cerain Mr Keane, in an infamous MUTV interview, lambasting some of the younger Utd players for their attitude. He was lauded in certain quarters for calling a spade a spade.

Probably the only time I have ever thought Keane was right,especially his comments regarding that donkey Ferdinand
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on November 22, 2008, 09:12:50 AM
Quote from: Minder on November 21, 2008, 10:39:48 PM
I remember a few years ago a cerain Mr Keane, in an infamous MUTV interview, lambasting some of the younger Utd players for their attitude. He was lauded in certain quarters for calling a spade a spade.

The difference between Keane & Gallas is that Keane backs up what he says on the pitch. Keane gets away with it because he led by example, Gallas on the other hand seems to be blaming everyone else.
Mind you, it was the beginning of the end for the Keane/Fergie partnership
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 22, 2008, 11:11:49 AM
Hope to see one hell of a reaction today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 22, 2008, 02:36:27 PM
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# 18 Silvestre
# 22 Clichy
# 08 Nasri
# 15 Denilson
# 17 Song Billong
# 02 Diaby
# 11 Van Persie
# 26 Bendtner

Only three outfield players who would be regarded as definite starters in a strongest line out. They may as well go for it. Could be a humdinger.

Man City:

    * 01 Hart
    * 05 Zabaleta
    * 02 Richards
    * 22 Dunne
    * 15 Garrido
    * 08 Wright-Phillips
    * 07 Ireland
    * 33 Kompany
    * 12 Vassell
    * 10 Robinho
    * 27 Benjani
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Yes I Would on November 22, 2008, 06:07:26 PM
Looks like the ball is over the wall at the emirates!! 
This should have been the day for the young side to stand up and make a statement!
All very puzzling. Was Wenger not aware of his captains concerns, many of which may have been valid?  Why did Gallas feel the need to go public?
Why appoint Gallas as captain? Surely a manager ought to know the character of any man who is delegated to lead the troops into battle!!
Has Wenger lost the plot?

Sad to see as i still believe the Gunners on techinical ability are the best team in the premier league and on song the most enjoyable to sit down and watch!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on November 22, 2008, 06:08:12 PM
Don't worry too much lads my money's still on you for the Carling Cup ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 22, 2008, 10:57:46 PM
O'Neill is quiet. Seen the highlights on Motd and Wenger said the result flattered City! Well his tie must have been cutting off the oxygen supply to his brain as on what i saw it could have been 5-0.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2008, 11:00:15 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 22, 2008, 10:57:46 PM
O'Neill is quiet.

Ach, just deflated. A troubled time simply because of the heights achieved over the last decade. To be 10 behind in November is not insurrmountable, given that there are 9 first teamers to return. If Arsenal are 6-7 behind at Christmas, I'll be pleased.

However, all is not well in so many areas and it's abundantly clear to all that no side fears the Gunners now. Away at the Bridge next Sunday. Gulp.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on November 23, 2008, 08:45:18 PM
OK gooners, what do you think is the answer to the implosion at the Emirates?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 23, 2008, 08:54:29 PM
Arsenal have the guts of a good side. Need one good centre half (Our man at SB Ivanovic has been superb coincidentally), a tackler in the midfield a la Viera, and a vocal goalkeeper.

The need some steel to match their silk. It's obvious and as simple as that IMHO.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2008, 09:18:50 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on November 23, 2008, 08:45:18 PM
OK gooners, what do you think is the answer to the implosion at the Emirates?

Losing Flamini was crucial. Heard that 85% of goals conceded this season by Arsenal have been from midfield mistakes. Defensively at full strength (Sagna/Toure/Gallas/Sagna) is as good as any. Fabregas needs protection if he makes those last year late bursts into the box. Flamini provided that. Up front, between Adebayor, RVP, Vela, Bendtner and Eduardo, Arsenal can compete at the top.

IMO, a defensive midfielder would make the world of difference.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on November 23, 2008, 09:30:56 PM
Sorry O Neill but if you think 1 defensive midfielder is all you need you are kidding yourself. More like two defensive midfielders, at least one centre half, a clinical striker and wingers who track back. Its all very nice looking good going forward but you need some steel in your team and some hard graft when things are going badly. Your squad is far too shallow and a couple of injuries have you in trouble thats basically what cost you last season. If he has any money Wenger needs to spend in January and again in June. There will be no league this season although you will remain a dangerous cup side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Yes I Would on November 23, 2008, 09:33:14 PM
With Flamini and Gilberto gone, it was clear that there was little protcetion for Cesc i lar na bpairce and the back 4.
Wengers belief in his young players is admirable but sometimes a bit of muscle and niggle is required and had either Gilberto or Fllamini been retained or adequately replaced then the Gunners wouldnt be rolled over the way they are in the league at the moment and would be right there to the bitter end.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2008, 09:39:43 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on November 23, 2008, 09:30:56 PM
Sorry O Neill but if you think 1 defensive midfielder is all you need you are kidding yourself. More like two defensive midfielders, at least one centre half, a clinical striker and wingers who track back. Its all very nice looking good going forward but you need some steel in your team and some hard graft when things are going badly. Your squad is far too shallow and a couple of injuries have you in trouble thats basically what cost you last season. If he has any money Wenger needs to spend in January and again in June. There will be no league this season although you will remain a dangerous cup side.

Arsenal lost the title last year by 4 points. They led Utd 1-0 in the second half of their match late in the season at Old Trafford. If they had held on they'd have won the league. That was the difference. A penalty/free kick. The main difference to now was Flamini and injuries.

When teams go through a bad patch people find it wonderfully easy to analyse what is wrong, usually taking their lead from tabloids or MOTD analysts. When they turn it around, the same people shower plaudits on the same side.

Wenger will get it right with the current squad and maybe one addition in the new year. Confidence is low at the minute.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on November 23, 2008, 09:57:03 PM
Have to agree with the Gunner here, a good defensive midfielder in ther would make the world of difference at Arsenal.
Wenger has to take the blame for some of that though. It's obvious Denilson isn't up to protecting himself, let alone Cesc and the back four, at least not yet. Someone really should have been brought in and at the minute he's partially to blame for a number of others completely losing form.
Fabregas is a different player of late and someone in there breaking up the play and passing it simple and well would give him that freedom to go and play again. Losing that one key player in there has meant Arsenal have lost at least two other players really. Kolo is a shadow of the player he was but leave any centre-half exposed from midfield and any premier league team can take advantage. Him and Fabregas have suffered most.
Wright Phillips robbed RVP yesterday, dribbled maybe 20/30 yards without encountering any Arsenal midfielder, bore down on a flat back four and picked out an easy through ball which Robinho finished superbly.
In saying all that I still think Almunia and Bentner are rubbish. Pink f**king boots.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on November 24, 2008, 02:50:15 PM
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4543058,00.html

Arsene Wenger has appointed Cesc Fabregas as the new captain of Arsenal.

Speculation had been mounting as to whether the Gunners chief would decide to strip former skipper William Gallas of the honour.

The Frenchman had been openly critical of his team-mates last week, putting his position under threat.

Wenger has now decided that it is time for change, rewarding Fabregas for his continued progress into a world-class performer.

The Spaniard will lead the club for the first time in their UEFA Champions League contest with Dynamo Kiev on Tuesday.

Pressure
Wenger refused to comment as to why he had taken the decision at this juncture, but did admit that Gallas will be included in his side for the midweek European contest at Emirates Stadium.

"He will play against Kiev," he said.

He then added on the captaincy: "It will be Fabregas. I don't think I have to explain why. It is a permanent thing."

Wenger was also quick to dismiss reports that he had suffered a falling out with Gallas in the wake of the recent controversy.

"William is a player that I rate. I have big respect for him," he added.

"He was working as a captain under a difficult media environment and he was under big pressure. At some stage, you do not want that pressure to affect him or the team.

"For me he is committed to the club and he can become stronger as a player. I think it can be a new start for him."


Leaders
The Arsenal boss, keen to avoid going into detail regarding his new choice of captain, went on to outline what he expects from those charged with leading his side.

"I believe the captain is the voice of the club," he said.

"He (Fabregas), though, is just one of the leaders of the team. A successful team is a shared leadership - he will be one of many leaders."

Wenger is also confident that his troops can bounce back from consecutive defeats in the Premier League to make Fabregas' first game as captain a positive occasion on Tuesday.

"When we don't win then frustration kicks in, but this a good opportunity for us to show that we have strength and ability," he added.

"You go from catastrophe to fantastic and we are in between at the moment.

"We are frustrated, but it is not all doom and gloom. We have faith in our ability and we have a good opportunity to show that we care about the club."




Fabregas isnt having that good of a season so far, dont know if this is a good move or not
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 24, 2008, 02:58:01 PM
Looking at last year's league table is dangerous IMHO O'Neill. Arsenal IMHO- despite what the table says- were much further behind than 4 point suggested, as much as Chelsea were actually further behind United than the two points or whatever it was in the end up.

I still don't rate Almunia to be honest. He was brought in as a sub keeper, and has ended up in goals more than he deserves. He is decent but I wouldn't see his as the rock that league winning keepers need to be.

Would Fabianski not be a better keeper?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on November 24, 2008, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 23, 2008, 09:39:43 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on November 23, 2008, 09:30:56 PM
Sorry O Neill but if you think 1 defensive midfielder is all you need you are kidding yourself. More like two defensive midfielders, at least one centre half, a clinical striker and wingers who track back. Its all very nice looking good going forward but you need some steel in your team and some hard graft when things are going badly. Your squad is far too shallow and a couple of injuries have you in trouble thats basically what cost you last season. If he has any money Wenger needs to spend in January and again in June. There will be no league this season although you will remain a dangerous cup side.

Arsenal lost the title last year by 4 points. They led Utd 1-0 in the second half of their match late in the season at Old Trafford. If they had held on they'd have won the league. That was the difference. A penalty/free kick. The main difference to now was Flamini and injuries.

When teams go through a bad patch people find it wonderfully easy to analyse what is wrong, usually taking their lead from tabloids or MOTD analysts. When they turn it around, the same people shower plaudits on the same side.

Wenger will get it right with the current squad and maybe one addition in the new year. Confidence is low at the minute.

Since January 2008 Arsenal have allowed Diarra, Gilberto and Flamini to leave, none of them have been replaced. They have replaced the ineffective Senderos with the ineffective Silvestre. Eduardo was your only striker who was close to clinical and has not been replaced since he got injured, even if he comes back this season it will take hime quite a while to get fit. Arsenal did not loose the league at Old Trafford they lost it at Birmingham and Gallas knew it and thats why he cracked up. Once Utd and Chelsea got their noses in front they were not going to slip, one side might have both certainly would not. So far this season Arsenal have lost 5 games they have five more top four fixtures to go and a trip to villa to look forward to. Many more points will be lost in these fixtures and as of now your best hope is fourth place and maybe a cup. Will that be enough to keep Fabregas at the club? He is on record as saying that he wanted a trophy this eason or he would consider a switch to Spain. Making him captain is a step in the right direction for Arsenal but Wenger needs to spend and spend well in January and June otherwise the rumbilngs ammong the fans will continue to grow and the dissatisfaction will spread to the players. What are the odds on Robin Van Persie or Gallas leaving after the last weeks events? Excpect the spanish to come sniffing in January.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 25, 2008, 01:42:47 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on November 24, 2008, 09:57:53 PM
What are the odds on Robin Van Persie or Gallas leaving after the last weeks events? Excpect the spanish to come sniffing in January.

I think gallas will go but van persie will stay if wenger wants him! Worried about cesc going in the summer but not in january. we need 4 new players 2 centre halves and 2 defensive midfielders. If we are within 8 of the top at christmas i would not  right the season off yet!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on November 25, 2008, 03:10:06 PM

Quote from: ONeill on May 06, 2008, 02:30:45 PM
Not concerned at all at Flamini leaving. In terms of workrate, it was fantastic this year but that is replaceable. He was probably the least talented of our midfielders. He's had one good season - last year he on the verge of being farmed out to Birmingham and I think he naver forgave AW for that. I'm more concerned at Hleb possibily leaving.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 25, 2008, 03:22:22 PM
Yes, and as you can see I said he was replaceable. Unfortunately, he wasn't replaced. Get some donkey-worker to hold up in front of the back 4 and we'll be whistling dixie. Not sure who Wenger thought would do it in the present squad. Maybe Song.

Tonight - who knows. New Fabregas-led dawn perhaps.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on November 25, 2008, 07:17:29 PM
Hopefully this idea of turning fiberglass into the captain will be a master stroke - it needs to be. Something needs to get him out of his present funk - maybe this will be it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 25, 2008, 10:09:23 PM
Will take that tonight, Fabregas had a good game but Song, Ramsey and Denilson were poor and they seem to be the cause of Arsenal's lack of cohesion. Clichy again a class act and Wiltshire looked impressive in his little cameo. A win is a win and will shut the media up for a while...

Sunday will be interesting but anything other than a Chelsea win will be a shock...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ludermor on November 25, 2008, 10:11:40 PM
Is it the medias fault Gallas went public?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 25, 2008, 10:17:15 PM
QuoteIs it the medias fault Gallas went public?

Is that directed at me, if so I'm sorry I really don't see the merit in discussing any tabloid generated mini-soap opera because quite frankly it's boring..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 25, 2008, 11:19:01 PM
We're gonna win the quadruple.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: billy the kid on November 26, 2008, 10:49:53 AM
Up da Gunners.

Was a bit nervy at the end as Gunners were really dominant but not getting the goals. Kiev were very defensive but very well organised and their tactics made it very hard to create clear cut chances, but no complaints they took the approach they thought would serve them best and they nearly got the point they came for.

but a win is a win and considering how many players the Gunners are missing at the minute us Arsenal fans have to be happy.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ludermor on November 26, 2008, 10:54:32 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 25, 2008, 10:17:15 PM
QuoteIs it the medias fault Gallas went public?

Is that directed at me, if so I'm sorry I really don't see the merit in discussing any tabloid generated mini-soap opera because quite frankly it's boring..

Bit touchy Dinny, it was a genuine question. You mihg think its boring and a soap opera but the fact is the captain was stripped of his role after i presume a breach of club protocal. You dont thik there is a story to be told?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 26, 2008, 11:44:58 AM
QuoteBit touchy Dinny, it was a genuine question. You mihg think its boring and a soap opera but the fact is the captain was stripped of his role after i presume a breach of club protocal. You dont thik there is a story to be told?

Not touchy in the slightest I just find the whole circus around the Premiership tedious and boring. Gallas had breached club protocol a few times and deservedly was stripped of the captaincy but headline news seriously  ::)

Most of the Gooners on this thread are aware of Arsenal's limitatiions, you can be sure Wenger is aware of these as well. Wenger showed belief in his young players, a belief that unfortunately that has not been repaid by the players.

Arsenal have never had a good relationship with the media and as the biggest London Club they are subjected to tabloid sensationalism more than any other club, that unfortunately is how the British press act. Ever since Wenger arrived in London when he was subjected to those horrendous rumours and threatened to sue any tabloid if they published them he has been critisied for been myopic, his teams sendings off, his footballing philosphy, his refusal to spend big, his selection of non-english players etc etc

Wenger should be admired and respected but instead the media just want to tear him down, quite sad really.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ludermor on November 26, 2008, 11:56:29 AM
he has been criticised for been myopic, his teams sendings off, his footballing philosophy, his refusal to spend big, his selection of non-english players etc etc

But surely he deserves criticism for some of the above??

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 26, 2008, 12:21:38 PM
QuoteBut surely he deserves criticism for some of the above??

Nope the over-reaction in the Britsh media is not deserved, why should he buy young English talent at inflated prices, he got his fingers burnt with Jeffers and learnt from that. His footballing philosophy is fantastic why would anyone feel the need to criticise that. Shock Horror Team manager refuses to criticise his team in the media and refuses to comment on contraversial incidents involving his players, good management in my opinion.

Wenger is non-English and is in charge of what was traditionally the most English of clubs, in my opinion if he was English we wouldn't even be having this discussion..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on November 26, 2008, 01:20:51 PM
I think that Chelsea's long-standing false sense of superiority will play into Wengers hands and Arsenal will get a result.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 26, 2008, 01:28:10 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 25, 2008, 10:09:23 PM
Will take that tonight, Fabregas had a good game but Song, Ramsey and Denilson were poor and they seem to be the cause of Arsenal's lack of cohesion. Clichy again a class act and Wiltshire looked impressive in his little cameo. A win is a win and will shut the media up for a while...

Sunday will be interesting but anything other than a Chelsea win will be a shock...

Listen to him...  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on November 26, 2008, 01:33:30 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 26, 2008, 12:21:38 PM
why should he buy young English talent at inflated prices

I thought he did do this?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on November 30, 2008, 06:18:26 PM
Arsenal 3 Chelsea 0  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: glens73 on November 30, 2008, 06:19:45 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 30, 2008, 06:18:26 PM
Arsenal 3 Chelsea 0  ;D

And there was me thinking it was 2-1 to the Gunners  ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on November 30, 2008, 06:25:08 PM
Good stuff from the gunners
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on November 30, 2008, 06:37:27 PM
two great strikes from robin, great second half by the goons. Denilson was awful though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2008, 08:07:51 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on November 30, 2008, 06:37:27 PM
Denilson was awful though.

I've heard that a couple of times tonight. Brain-dead analysis. Denilson was bloody brilliant. Lampard and Ballack were totally ineffective.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on November 30, 2008, 08:22:44 PM
Very good win today maybe get a few more wins and we might just be close enough at the the end of the season. just glad to be back in the top 4 for now though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 30, 2008, 08:33:47 PM
Maybe whiskey nose gave them the boost they needed when he said Arsenal's season was in crisis. Yawn we're heard it all before.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on November 30, 2008, 08:38:35 PM
QuoteMaybe whiskey nose gave them the boost they needed when he said Arsenal's season was in crisis.

Another masterstroke by the Glasgow Genius!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on November 30, 2008, 10:02:40 PM
I'll rephrase that then O'Neill as even you can't argue with what was on my tv! On the ball he was terrible.  His touch, shot and vision were drastic.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 30, 2008, 11:39:42 PM
Only seen the highlights but some slice of luck for the first goal which seemed to change the game.

Shockin tackle from Terry in the second half as well. Certain red card but MOTD didn't even highlight it. I don't like being paranoid about cover ups for England players but you'd wonder now and again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 01, 2008, 08:52:05 PM
Badly need to follow that up by wrapping up the 3 points v Wigan on Saturday. Not to do so just means they're a club who just raise their game for big games.

Hard to know how they won. Not exactly a clinical performance. Defence as well as midfield were hard working but not exactly inventive. Adebayor also worked is bollocks off at times. Probably caught Chelsea at a good time. Arsenal definitely aren't back, just papering over cracks. Good win, however, whilst AW sorts the mess out.

Tough game tomorrow, the youths v Burnley who are flying.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on December 02, 2008, 12:16:50 AM
Knowing Arsenal we'll drop more points against wigan after great result against the russians! 2 great finishes from RVP hopefully will get him started and he can bang in a few more, theres no reason why he shouldnt be hitting 20 this season with a left foot like his!

Burnley will be a great test for the youngsters but no doubt they'll go out and play great football! hopefully 2-0 to the Gunners!

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 06, 2008, 05:23:35 PM
1-0 but serious abuse dished out to Eboue by the Arsenal fans. Didn't reflect too well on the Gooners. Eboue had a complete breakdown in the last 5 mins before Wenger hauled him off. I don't like the player personally, but felt sorry for him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: corn02 on December 06, 2008, 05:34:43 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 06, 2008, 05:23:35 PM
1-0 but serious abuse dished out to Eboue by the Arsenal fans. Didn't reflect too well on the Gooners. Eboue had a complete breakdown in the last 5 mins before Wenger hauled him off. I don't like the player personally, but felt sorry for him.

Read that, what was the scenario, what happened?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 06, 2008, 05:38:23 PM
QuoteI don't like the player personally, but felt sorry for him.

Can't agree O'Neill, his on-field personality is quite frankly dispicable. The Arsenal fans are right to display their disgust with him, he's very very well rewarded for being a professional footballer, maybe this might help him to act with some sort of professional decency.

That November just gone reminded my of 97' and we all know what happened then  8)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 06, 2008, 07:40:06 PM
He wasn't the worst today Dinny but received the brunt.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 06, 2008, 07:42:40 PM
What did eboue do? Did he just play shite?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on December 07, 2008, 07:10:46 PM
QuoteWhat did eboue do? Did he just play shite?

He played like it was the first time in his life he'd seen a football.   Got booed by the Arsenal fans every time he touched the ball then they cheered when he got substituted
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on December 08, 2008, 10:43:25 AM
I know a few Arsenal lads that cant stand Eboue but surely booing him is counter productive, one of the reasons they give for disliking him is the feigning injury. I never remember Pires receiving that sort of treatment........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2008, 10:57:05 AM
It's out of order. Eboue does 'grind our gears' at times but he is also an accomplished footballer who was coming back from injury. He came on because on an early injury to Nasri. He was used as a scapegoat for another lazy Arsenal performance. When 60'000 are on your back and you're not match fit, it would make anyone crumble. I blame Arsene more than Eboue, especially with Ramsey and Wilshere on the bench.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: corn02 on December 08, 2008, 11:14:28 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 08, 2008, 10:57:05 AM
It's out of order. Eboue does 'grind our gears' at times but he is also an accomplished footballer who was coming back from injury. He came on because on an early injury to Nasri. He was used as a scapegoat for another lazy Arsenal performance. When 60'000 are on your back and you're not match fit, it would make anyone crumble.

Spot on, a total disgrace. The man was near in tears coming off. I thought the Pool fans were bad booing last week, but this was shameful.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 08, 2008, 11:53:28 AM
Not his biggest fan but I felt really sorry for him on Saturday.

Must have been a terrible experience for him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: StGallsGAA on December 08, 2008, 03:05:57 PM
Anyone got a link to it?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on December 08, 2008, 07:17:13 PM
i would not be his biggest fan but booing him will do his confidence no good at all. boro away at the weekend fingers crossed a win there and maybe we are starting to get some momenteum going.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2008, 07:44:41 PM
He probably needs to play out in Porto, away from the boos and pressure of the home crowd. Unless, that is, it was 'Eboue' they were shouting all along!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on December 11, 2008, 04:32:14 PM
so we can get one of the following in the nest round. The one to avoid is Barcelona. Apart from them think we have the beat of any of them on our day!- but not a day like last night. jesus we were shit last night

AS Roma
Panathinaikos
FC Barcelona
Bayern Munich
Juventus



Title: Bit of good news
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2008, 09:57:05 PM
Premier League - Eduardo makes playing return

Croatia forward Eduardo successfully returned from injury to start for Arsenal's reserves in a 2-0 win over Portsmouth.

Eduardo has been out for almost 10 months after suffering a horrific ankle and leg break in Arsenal's 2-2 Premier League draw with Birmingham City last season.

"I'm just so happy to be back playing after 10 months out," the player told Arsenal TV after the match. "I hope to be back playing at the same level or even better, but now it's just good to forget about all the bad things in my life."

The Brazilian-born striker lasted only 45 minutes, but seemed fit and had two chances to open the scoring before coming off complaining of stiffness.

"I think everything will be okay with my hamstring and I should be playing before the New Year," he continued.

"I really enjoy playing for Arsenal and the national team of Croatia. There is a Croatia game in February and I should be able to play in that."

The former Croatia Zagreb man had a quiet opening period but looked comfortable with the pace of the game as he got some early touches and ran freely.

Initially he did not look entirely sharp, as shown when he failed to control a Fran Merida pass which played him through on goal.

Later in the first half, the 25-year-old found himself with a half-chance after Jack Wilshere and Jay Simpson combined; however he was forced wide by Pompey's defence and was unable to get a shot in.

As the game progressed Eduardo improved and almost broke the deadlock on 41 minutes.

With a superb touch on the edge of the box, he cut left and sent in a sweet, curling effort that Asmir Begovic acrobatically tipped behind for a corner.

He was withdrawn at half-time for midfielder Amaury Bischoff, a summer signing who has also struggled with injury.

Eduardo's career-threatening injury, suffered after a tackle by Blues centre-back Martin Taylor, was successfully operated on and he was reported to be walking without crutches in the summer, although it has taken him until December to be considered fit enough for contact training.

His return will be a welcome boost for Gunners boss Arsene Wenger, who is without England forward Theo Walcott until spring because of a shoulder injury
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on December 16, 2008, 10:39:03 PM
Nice to see Eduardo back.  A dreadful injury and you can only wish he has a long career following his recovery.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 21, 2008, 06:11:11 PM
Some observations

Good point for Arsenal and we saw today why Liverpool won't win the title because if that was Manure or Chelski playing against 10 men they would have gone for the juggular instead Liverpool persisted with their boring long ball football and kept 9 men the ball, Fat Sam would be proud of that.

Nice to see the Arsenal young lads show a bit of dog.

Howard Webb is a w**k*r, Adebayor won the ball with his body, Liverpool player makes a meal of the slighest contact and hey presto 2nd yellow and the game was ruined.

Diaby is a stick..

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: corn02 on December 21, 2008, 06:46:47 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 21, 2008, 06:11:11 PM
Some observations

Good point for Arsenal and we saw today why Liverpool won't win the title because if that was Manure or Chelski playing against 10 men they would have gone for the juggular instead Liverpool persisted with their boring long ball football and kept 9 men the ball, Fat Sam would be proud of that.

Nice to see the Arsenal young lads show a bit of dog.

Howard Webb is a w**k*r, Adebayor won the ball with his body, Liverpool player makes a meal of the slighest contact and hey presto 2nd yellow and the game was ruined.

Diaby is a stick..




Liverpool still had the best oppurtunities after the sending off. It was a weird game.

Also, it was a second yellow. A touch harsh but still a yellow. Look a the smack Arbeloa takes, I don't know if he "made a meal of it".
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 21, 2008, 07:53:30 PM
QuoteLook a the smack Arbeloa takes, I don't know if he "made a meal of it".

He like the vast majority Premiership footballers went down like he was shot, it was not a yellow card imho and Webb got it wrong. Liverpool were very poor after the sending and created very little, they won't win the premiership.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J70 on December 21, 2008, 09:46:18 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 21, 2008, 07:53:30 PM
QuoteLook a the smack Arbeloa takes, I don't know if he "made a meal of it".

He like the vast majority Premiership footballers went down like he was shot, it was not a yellow card imho and Webb got it wrong. Liverpool were very poor after the sending and created very little, they won't win the premiership.

I thought the second was a definite yellow. First maybe was harsh, but on the replays it looks like he went over the top of the ball and caught Insua, which is presumably why he was booked.

As for the premiership, we'll see. They're still hanging in there, and United and Chelsea, while they would have to be more heavily favoured on past performances, haven't been setting the world alight either. I think Liverpool just didn't want to lose the game, which, combined with Arsenal raising their performance in the last 20, meant that they remained cautious - both goals came from defences getting caught by long balls (obviously more hopeful in Liverpool's case), and there was no reason why Van Persie couldn't conjure up something again if given the space that would have been created by Liverpool charging forward. I would have loved them to go on and win it, but at the same time, I was very fearful watching it that Arsenal would score again. Overall, a draw like this will not be the reason for Liverpool not maintaining a challenge.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 21, 2008, 10:03:31 PM
QuoteOverall, a draw like this will not be the reason for Liverpool not maintaining a challenge.

No but if they had went for it and got the three points, the belief and the pure statement of intent that it would have given off might have given them the impetus to really press on and win the title. They didn't and they won't Liverpool are more afraid of losing than trying to win.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 21, 2008, 10:20:56 PM
As with both sets of supporters, don't know what to think. If still harbouring ambitions of the title, it wasn't good enough. Having beaten Utd and Chelsea so far, Arsenal needed to win this to stay within an ass's roar. Played middlin against limited opposition. Liverpool were clueless when one man up. Arsenal upped the tempo but with RVP holding a lone fort up front after Adebayor's dismissal and Fabregas on the treatment table, options were limited. Denilson was a bit better than normal. Diaby is lost. Djourou's mistake led to the goal. Nasri came into the game late on and could see why Liverpool were double-teaming him.

Disappointed that Liverpool seemed happy with a point from 20 mins out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on December 21, 2008, 10:21:34 PM
I'm not so sure that they sat back in the last 20 minutes rather than the remaining Arsenal players upped their game considerably and started working twice as hard. We had actually started the 2nd half in complete control of the game and the sending off seemed to give Arsenal a kick up the backside more than giving Liverpool a boost. Still we had the better chances but couldn't capatalize.

On the booking I thought Adebayor's second yellow was a booking alright. Nobody would have kicked up a fuss if it had been his first. He was unlucky with his first one though. Same as Keane.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 21, 2008, 10:42:26 PM
See Ade on MOTD2.

He misses the Boxing Day game against Villa

HE'S OVER THE MOON!!!

He can ate and drink all he wants on Xmas Day

If you re gonna be suspended for a game or three , make sure its at xmas time.

Would say Cesc mightn't be overly bothered about being out for 3 weeks either!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: corn02 on December 21, 2008, 10:43:52 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on December 21, 2008, 10:21:34 PM
I'm not so sure that they sat back in the last 20 minutes rather than the remaining Arsenal players upped their game considerably and started working twice as hard. We had actually started the 2nd half in complete control of the game and the sending off seemed to give Arsenal a kick up the backside more than giving Liverpool a boost. Still we had the better chances but couldn't capatalize.

On the booking I thought Adebayor's second yellow was a booking alright. Nobody would have kicked up a fuss if it had been his first. He was unlucky with his first one though. Same as Keane.

Good post.

Also, on Arbeloa, i want to change my statement. He did take a smack on the gob, but he did make a bit too much of it. Not a meal of it, but went a bit too easy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on December 22, 2008, 02:08:12 PM
Good to see Robbie on the score sheet, pleasing all Spurs fans as usual ;D

Arsenal surely no longer deserve to be knwn as one of the so called Big Four
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on December 23, 2008, 05:16:07 PM
Arsenal's season officially over

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7794770.stm


Fabregas faces four-month lay-off

Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas has been ruled out for up to four months after rupturing knee ligaments in Sunday's Premier League draw with Liverpool.

The 21-year-old Spanish midfielder suffered the injury going for a 50-50 challenge with compatriot Xabi Alonso.

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger admitted he could now make a move for new players in the January transfer window.

"It is more likely but we also have internal solutions and we are not desperate," said Wenger.

"But we also have a small squad so we have to be realistic."

Fabregas hobbled off the pitch in obvious discomfort after going in for the challenge with Alonso at full stretch just before half-time in the 1-1 draw at the Emirates Stadium.

"The news is not good. It will take three to four months, we count four," added Wenger.

"He will be working hard to come back earlier but I count four months."

If Wenger's assessment is correct, Fabregas will be sidelined until late April, and would miss all but the last five or six of Arsenal's Premier League matches.

The Gunners are eight points off leaders Liverpool in fifth place, and face a key encounter with third-placed Aston Villa on Boxing Day.

Fabregas will also miss the Champions League quarter-finals, if Arsenal get past Roma in the last-16 stage.

"We will miss him, of course, but how much is difficult to say," Wenger added.

"We have to find a way and we want to find a way to compensate the fact that he is not on the pitch to give everyone a bit more. I'm sure we can deal with it.

"When he comes back he can help us get over the line in the final months. I believe we are able to do it."

The Gunners are already without midfielders Theo Walcott and Tomas Rosicky, who are out until well into the new year.

Fabregas's injury leaves Wenger short of options and experience in midfield with Alex Song, Abou Diaby, Denilson and Aaron Ramsey likely to contest the slot left by the skipper.

Wenger is yet to decide who will take the captain's armband from Fabregas.

Goalkeeper Manuel Almunia took over when William Gallas was stripped of the captaincy and Fabregas was serving a suspension.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 23, 2008, 05:42:05 PM
A hammer blow.

2 months ago it looked like a bright 2009. RVP was injury free. Walcott was maturing. Eduardo and Rosicky were nearing the end of their time out. Toure was back.

Now it has gone tits-up with Walcott, Rosicky and now Fabregas. Arse-shaving might be arriving sooner than first thought.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2008, 09:45:07 AM
How predictable was that? This group of players, albeit supremely talented, have one hell of a brittle nature. When Arsenal were 2-0 up and pressing, RVP smacked one off the post. At that moment you knew the doubts would begin the surface...the fans felt it too. That's how fragile this side is. I long now for the days of Adams, Keown, Campbell, Vieira, Bergkamp, Pires etc who knew they could and probably would win every game. Denilson, Diaby, Nasri, RVP et al have their moments but just lack that bit of drive needed when the screw is being turned against you. How long can AW wait for this to mature whilst other sides are simply buying their way to the title at the start of every year with 2-3 ready-made winners?

To have beaten Man Utd and Chelsea, drawn with Liverpool and Villa having been ahead in both, shows that Arsenal have a side capable of great things. Unfortunately the lack of experience at key times in matches is killing them, coupled with moments of madness every other game from Gallas. Fairly disillusioning. You'd accept it if the players were mediocre.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 28, 2008, 02:04:48 PM
RVP on the bench, Bendtner preferred. Nothing less than 5-1 will suffice.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on December 28, 2008, 02:24:37 PM
Is that The watcher pats cousin right back?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Our Nail Loney on December 28, 2008, 02:27:03 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on December 28, 2008, 02:24:37 PM
Is that The watcher pats cousin right back?

Aye Marc Wilson, think he is number 35? Hit the post the other day, he has about eight million cousins though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on December 28, 2008, 02:29:47 PM
 :D :D
Seems like a decent player. Commentator says Harry Redknapp picked him as young player of the year at the club, not a bad acheivement.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 28, 2008, 04:00:52 PM
Win ugly. That's the future!

Phew.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on December 28, 2008, 04:03:10 PM
Poor game alright but a wins a win!
Any news on Arsenals injurys? Rosicky?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 28, 2008, 10:57:42 PM
Wenger eyes Andrei Arshavin to fill midfield gaps

Arsène Wenger will move next month to bring Andrei Arshavin to Arsenal and he is cautiously optimistic about his chances of success. The Arsenal manager had already said he was "more likely" to strengthen his squad when the mid-season transfer window opened, after Cesc Fábregas's knee injury which will sideline the central midfielder for four months, but he has addressed the subject of the Zenit St Petersburg playmaker for the first time.

"I don't need to announce a name," Wenger said with a smile when asked by the French television channel Canal Plus about Arshavin, "because when you do that there is 50% less chance of making the signing. But I need a creative midfielder and eventually another midfielder, because we are short."

Wenger has seen a clutch of midfielders depart the club in the past 12 months — Lassana Diarra left for Portsmouth last January before moving on to Real Madrid, and Mathieu Flamini, Alex Hleb and Gilberto Silva went in the summer — and although he signed Samir Nasri and Aaron Ramsey his ambitions have been undermined by the injuries to Fábregas, Theo Walcott and Tomas Rosicky. Walcott is out until the middle of February after shoulder surgery and there are fears that Rosicky will not play again this season because of his long-standing hamstring tendon problem.

"The transfer window opens [on Thursday] and, although we are not close to signing anyone at the moment, if we do buy I think what we need is maybe someone with a bit of experience," Wenger wrote in his programme notes for the visit of Portsmouthtoday's .

"We already have many young players so, if we buy, it will be somebody who is ready to play straight away. A loan deal could also be a possibility.

"Cesc is a long way from playing again, so are Tomas Rosicky and Theo Walcott, and these are three creative players that we count on at the start of the season. So what we might need is someone who can create a little spark."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 10, 2009, 05:13:52 PM
Phew again.

Bendtner was getting serious stick from the crowd and then pops up with the winner.

Emirates crowd a bit ratty this weather.

Hanging in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 10, 2009, 05:15:46 PM
That was squeaky bum time that!!

4 strikers on the field at one stage...Needs to get the cheque book out..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 10, 2009, 05:17:54 PM
do they have are internet connection in the vintage/celtic club pat?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 10, 2009, 05:26:18 PM
Terrible performance until Vela came on, he started running at players and creating space and give the rest of the team impetus. Cracking finish from the Dane, keep expecting Villa's luck to run out but fair dues they're getting the results, still with the quality of players to come back Arsenal should finish 4th.

Must be great to be Kevin foul all you want Davies and never get booked  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: jaykay on January 14, 2009, 01:58:31 PM
That p***k is mouthing off again, he was at the same shite last year too   >:(

http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1766_4782703,00.html

Bolton striker Kevin Davies has accused Arsenal players of cheating referees by "screaming" to con officials into awarding them free-kicks.

Davies: Unimpressed with 'screaming' Gunners

The Gunners edged to a 1-0 win over Wanderers at the Emirates Stadium, where the visitors' stubborn resistance was finally broken six minutes from time when substitute Nicklas Bendtner volley in a late winner.

While it was not an over-physical encounter, there is certainly little love lost between the two sides.

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger was left seething following what he saw as an X-rated challenge by forward Davies on full-back Gael Clichy during the encounter at the Reebok Stadium earlier in the season.

Davies, though, maintains several of the Arsenal team play act to get decisions their way.

"Sometimes it feels like they are trying to earn you a booking, which is bit disappointing and in some of the challenges, I felt that I won the ball," the Bolton forward said.

"A few of them let out a big scream, which is a bit embarrassing really because it is a man's game.

"[Kolo] Toure did one, and he is big, strong man. He was screaming 'my leg' which is a bit unnecessary - but they get the free-kicks.

"In my eyes that is cheating the referee, they have conned him, but they are good at than and you just have to get on with the game."

Bolton were only able to name three outfield players on the substitutes' bench, such was the selection problems for manager Gary Megson.

Davies feels the team can take credit from their efforts in difficult circumstances as they prepare for the visit of champions Manchester United.

"We have only got a small squad, then we had a suspensions and a few injuries, so we are all trying to work hard and can take a lot of positives out of the game because we probably deserved a point," he said.

"If we can perform like that against Manchester United next week, then we will give them a game."


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 17, 2009, 08:16:32 PM
Decent enough performance apart from a squeaky period after their goal. RVP was outstanding as provider as was the improving Nasri. Bendtner seems to be best employed as a 75 min sub. His running at their defence opened up chances for the rest.

Keeping in touch as Walcott, Fabregas, Gallas, Rosicky and Silvestre near fitness.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: centre 3/4s on January 17, 2009, 08:40:13 PM
Grinded out a result tonight thought bentder done well when he came on thought. Thought Eboue totally outdone himself tonight be being absolutely shite again he has the touch of an elephant and thought he was trying to kill the right back tonight by booting the ball at him continuously. Rumour has it inter milan were looking him, well now that would be a turn in fortunes for us if someone really did want him,don't believe it though!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on January 18, 2009, 01:42:20 AM
What is happening with Eduardo? Is he not impressing with the reserves or has injury brought about a premature end to his premiership career? While it is easy to believe that most injuries are treatable, sometimes the damage is too much, both physical and mental.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 18, 2009, 10:12:44 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on January 18, 2009, 01:42:20 AM
What is happening with Eduardo? Is he not impressing with the reserves or has injury brought about a premature end to his premiership career? While it is easy to believe that most injuries are treatable, sometimes the damage is too much, both physical and mental.

he is just being eased back. playing for the reserves again this week. think we will see him before end of feb
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on January 18, 2009, 10:18:31 PM
cant remember where i read it but fairly sure in his first few comeback games he pulled/strained his hamstring which was to set him back about a month so assuming that was the case,it would sound about right if hes back playing reserves again.i guess with an injury as serious as his,he cant be rushed!hopefully tie up the deal for arshavin this week.as great as it would be to see him sign i still feel we desperately need a defensive midfielder in the vieira/gilbertio mould and definitely need a centre half.arsenal never look comfortable defending a lead.anyone feel adebayors work rate has been poor in recent games?i noticed steve mcmanaman showing recent examples of this in the pre game coverage last nite.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2009, 08:14:57 PM
Extremely difficult tie tomorrow. Cardiff are unbeaten since November and on some kind of record run at home. Will be happy to take them back to the Emirates.

Would've been nice to see Eduardo back for this but looks like Wenger things it's too early.

Also, I see Le Boss has had a dig about Utd's fixtures as well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 23, 2009, 08:17:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 23, 2009, 08:14:57 PM
Extremely difficult tie tomorrow. Cardiff are unbeaten since November and on some kind of record run at home. Will be happy to take them back to the Emirates.

Would've been nice to see Eduardo back for this but looks like Wenger things it's too early.

Also, I see Le Boss has had a dig about Utd's fixtures as well.
Was it a "rant" or clever "mind games" ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 28, 2009, 11:07:30 PM
Ah feck it anyway.

The NFL is starting.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 28, 2009, 11:51:54 PM
I m beginning to worry that we'll not achieve even a fourth place which will be disasterous for the club.

Heading over for the Fulham game at end of Feb.

Have already told Arsene I'd better get a good show !!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on January 29, 2009, 12:04:04 PM
I'm worrying myself but i think Villa will start to slide once europe starts again they've been playing since July and with a small enough squad. i hope eduardo comes back good.

Need to see more of Adebayor and Nasri.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on January 29, 2009, 02:47:57 PM
We are turning into a joke really - 29th Jan and still signed nobody - Silvestre has been our best signing in a year ffs. Where is the money going? David Dein needs back in there and a bit of cop on about the place - we are going to be left behind.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on January 29, 2009, 02:50:12 PM
Quote from: spiritof91and94 on January 29, 2009, 02:47:57 PM
We are turning into a joke really - 29th Jan and still signed nobody - Silvestre has been our best signing in a year ffs. Where is the money going? David Dein needs back in there and a bit of cop on about the place - we are going to be left behind.

yous already have been. Time to join everton and those kind of times battling for UFEA Cup

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 29, 2009, 03:11:49 PM
To be honest I don't believe a year out of the Champions League would be the worst thing to happen to Arsenal.

A. It would make Wenger sit down and re-assess his squad and realise that maybe the kids aren't the future

and

B. Arsenal can focus completely on retaining the Premier League.

Anyways I still believe Arsenal will grap a top 4 spot, Man U will piss away with the League, even I got caught up in the delusional desease that infects Liverpool supporters and thought they were better than they are, Villa will have to run out of luck eventually, don't they?, and Chelsea aren't the side of old. Those 3 won't pull away from The Arsenal, so it's going to be a very interesting time and hopefully the injured players come back earlier rather than later..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on January 30, 2009, 01:52:38 PM
Arsenal moved a step closer to signing Andrei Arshavin after successfully applying for a work permit for the Zenit St Petersburg forward. (Sky Sports News 1230 GMT)

IMHO not what we were looking for. would have prefered to see a centre half and a defensive midfielder. The window does not close until monday. so i live in hope!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 30, 2009, 04:10:32 PM
Arsene finally gets Arshavin

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3075/3239302508_5c63af570c.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 02, 2009, 05:09:06 PM
Haven't been this excited about an Arsenal signing since Bergkamp signed...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gkw-Gq2_op0 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gkw-Gq2_op0)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 02, 2009, 05:34:24 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 02, 2009, 05:09:06 PM
Haven't been this excited about an Arsenal signing since Bergkamp signed...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gkw-Gq2_op0 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gkw-Gq2_op0)


Not signed yet according to Sky Sports
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 02, 2009, 05:40:32 PM
Na mere formalities, fee agreed, medical passed, personal terms agreed just the mula to be deposited and dot the i's and cross the t's....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2009, 05:43:42 PM
Arse/Cardiff called off tomorrow.

Feckin Keane will score against the Arse this Sunday. You just know it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 02, 2009, 05:45:37 PM
QuoteFeckin Keane will score against the Arse this Sunday. You just know it.

Jaysus O'Neill are you me or am I you, just posted something similar on the Yids thread  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 02, 2009, 05:49:56 PM
Zenith say deal is off
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2009, 05:52:02 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on February 02, 2009, 05:49:56 PM
Zenith say deal is off

Not exactly.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 02, 2009, 05:53:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 02, 2009, 05:40:32 PM
Na mere formalities, fee agreed, medical passed, personal terms agreed just the mula to be deposited and dot the i's and cross the t's....

:D :D :D :D

How did they manage to f**k that up?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2009, 05:55:27 PM
A Zenit St Petersburg official has told the Associated Press that Andrei Arshavin's move to Arsenal could fall through as the player and club have been unable to agree the repayment of a signing-on fee. Hearts in mouths for Arsenal fans.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 02, 2009, 05:57:40 PM
Sky News reporting that the deal is off   :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2009, 06:03:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 02, 2009, 05:09:06 PM
Haven't been this excited about an Arsenal signing since Bergkamp signed...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gkw-Gq2_op0 (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gkw-Gq2_op0)

Strange as I never really got excited about this. He just seemed like a short-term stopgap in the mould of Fabregas and Rosicky until they were back. Where would he have fitted with Walcott, Nasri, Fabregas, Rosicky, Diaby and Denilson all parading in that area? Pumping any dough into a Flamini deal would've been more in our line.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2009, 06:10:05 PM
Are Paddy Power offering any odds on this still happening?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 02, 2009, 06:15:28 PM
FFS  >:(

Anyway I just think he's a smashing player, thought he was great in the UEFA cup final and his performances for Russia in the Euro's confirmed this. Don't really think Arsenal need a defensive midfielder, centre half yes definitely.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 02, 2009, 06:17:19 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 02, 2009, 06:10:05 PM
Are Paddy Power offering any odds on this still happening?

Window closed at 5.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2009, 06:24:49 PM
What it may have done was inject a freshness into the squad I suppose.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2009, 06:50:34 PM
Deal still not off according to SNN
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2009, 06:52:28 PM
Wenger says it's a formality.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on February 02, 2009, 07:32:55 PM
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4888110,00.html

Looks like he's signed
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: cavan4ever on February 02, 2009, 08:49:02 PM
That was dramatic.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 03, 2009, 11:00:55 AM
Zenit St Petersburg have confirmed Arsenal have signed Andrei Arshavin.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 04, 2009, 09:58:26 PM
ARSEnal:

ARSEne Wenger
GallASS
FabregASS
ARSEshavin

Anyone else on the horizon?

Dean WindASS?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 04, 2009, 10:01:34 PM
Mark Van BUMMell?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 04, 2009, 10:10:34 PM
Marc Overmearse
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 05, 2009, 08:35:29 AM
Danny Shittu?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 06, 2009, 11:04:28 AM
10 years.

Spurs have not beaten Arsenal in 18 Premier League meetings, since George Graham's side achieved a 2-1 home victory on 7 November 1999, when Steffen Iversen and Tim Sherwood were on target, and Arsenal's Martin Keown and Freddie Ljungberg were both sent off. That was Tottenham's only maximum in 26 north London League derbies.

If Arsenal avoid defeat they will equal their longest unbeaten streak against a specific opponent in the Premier League; matching the 19 games against Chelsea between 16 December 1995 and 20 April 2005, and the 19 without loss against Aston Villa between 16 May 1999 to 1 March 2008.

David Pleat, Glenn Hoddle, Jacques Santini, Martin Jol and Juande Ramos all failed as Tottenham managers to get the better of Arsene Wenger's men in a league game. Now Harry Redknapp will be doing his utmost to ensure he does not join the list.


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on February 06, 2009, 01:20:20 PM
A must win for both teams with very different goals. I hope arsenal can lift there game because this one is gona be tough.

Is arshavin definitly 23???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on February 08, 2009, 03:35:39 PM
given that we were down to 10 men and modrics late sitter,a draw isnt a bad result away from home but seriously beginning to doubt if we will make the top 4.i know we are missing a few players but unless we get fabregas,theo,rosicky,eduardo and arshavin on board and firing on all cylinders i believe we are in trouble.whilst we battled well today against the odds,we were seriously devoid of quality.i cant see how even the most faithful gooner could argue that eboue,bentner,song and denilson would start for a team in the top ten in the premiership,in particular the first 2 names and more so eboue than bentner.eboue is a shocking right sided midfielder,hes a decent back up for right back but thats it.bentners touch for a striker is very poor at times and his goals to games ratio is nowhere near good enough for a striker at arsenal.the other 2 simply dont have enough quality to play in an arsenal midfield.they regularly give the ball away.

how and why wenger persists in playing eboue and bentner is beyond me,the man seems to be getting very stubborn in his ways,its a joke he didnt buy more than one player in the transfer window.i have never questioned the man because he has brought us success and produced teams who played breathtaking football but i am beginning to question his methods and beliefs on certain players.what do any of the other fans think about clichy and adebayor.clichy for me hasnt been the same player since the c**k up at birmingham last year and adebayor before he got injured today wasnt trying a leg either just like he hasnt been in recent games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 08, 2009, 03:59:20 PM
Eboue was actually playing quite well before the madnes set in - in fact he was probably Arsenal's best player up to that point. He's too much of a liability and hopefully he won't see much action with Arshavin, Fabregas, Rosicky (remember him?) and Walcott returning.

13 games left, need to start winning. Drawing against crap teams like West Ham at home and Spuds away is not good enough, despite the unbeaten run (10 games?)

I'd have to disagree on Bendtner today - he worked his arse off and was more of a threat that RVP.

Plenty of clean sheets lately - not enough in the onion bag. Good to see Eduardo warming up although where are the clever through-balls? They're not coming from Denilson or Song.....again, the sooner we see what the Russian is made of the better.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on February 08, 2009, 04:06:04 PM
aye hopefully arshavin doesnt need too much time to settle in.we are lacking creativity in the final third.eboue was getting involved well early on but certainly wudnt say he was the best player.he got himself in a few good positions but then again fcked it up with his final pass,he fell on the ground at one stage and passed it straight to a spurs player.bentner did work his arse off but so what,thats the very least a top striker at this level should be doing,he had a good effort near the end but went on a few runs like a headless chicken and lost it and lost the ball a fair bit 2,nowhere near technically good enough for this level.even on his loan at birmingham he didnt score a lot of goals.
RVP was subdued but hes always capable of pulling something out of the bag given his class,such as the recent everton game.for once i thought the two centre halfs were reasonably solid today!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on February 08, 2009, 08:46:17 PM
QuoteIs arshavin definitly 23???

28
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on February 08, 2009, 11:34:17 PM
Was at the game today and feel we deserved the draw although we need more back up but this will come with returning players.
Spurs will have to wait a whole lot longer to beat us though!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on February 09, 2009, 10:53:22 AM
Yesterday we had a very strong bench in attack, but the red card kinda meant that we were always going to be limited going forward. If we don't beat sunderland at home next we can forget about top four.

In wenger we trust!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 09, 2009, 10:55:47 AM
5 home games on the bounce now - 2 league, 2 FA Cup and one CL v Roma. By the end of Feb we'll have a good idea as to the possible legacy of this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 09, 2009, 10:59:01 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 09, 2009, 10:55:47 AM
5 home games on the bounce now - 2 league, 2 FA Cup and one CL v Roma. By the end of Feb we'll have a good idea as to the possible legacy of this season.

I wouldn't be so sure on beating Cardiff, the way arsenal are playing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on February 09, 2009, 11:21:52 AM
all without Adebayor which mightn't be a bad thing, it could give arshavin and eduardo a chance.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on February 09, 2009, 02:59:39 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on February 08, 2009, 08:46:17 PM
QuoteIs arshavin definitly 23???

28

aged 28 his jersey number is 23!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 16, 2009, 07:41:08 PM
Hopefully Eduardo does well tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 16, 2009, 07:49:45 PM
 link for game (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/506888)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 16, 2009, 08:12:22 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on February 16, 2009, 07:41:08 PM
Hopefully Eduardo does well tonight.

Attaboy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2009, 08:13:53 PM
Deadly. Side playing like Arsenal of old so far. (cue collapse)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 16, 2009, 08:23:38 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on February 16, 2009, 07:41:08 PM
Hopefully Eduardo does well tonight.

glad for the fella, hard to believe its almost a year ago he got injured
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 16, 2009, 08:23:52 PM
2 zip.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 16, 2009, 08:26:27 PM
a bit like kerry yesterday all gunners first half
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 16, 2009, 08:35:58 PM
how they not score
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2009, 08:38:32 PM
Very enjoyable.

No coincidence it coincides with Adebayor's absence.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2009, 09:08:26 PM
Class, class football.

Cardiff haven't lost a game since November.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2009, 09:18:01 PM
Arsene should make a bid for the Cardiff keeper immediately. Impressive, Given-like qualities.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 118cmal on February 16, 2009, 10:25:32 PM
I think cardiff's keeper tonight is on loan from United.  A lad Tom Heaton was it? Very highly thought of at OT
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2009, 04:26:27 PM
Eduardo suffers new injury blow 

Eduardo scored twice on his return against Cardiff in the FA Cup
Arsenal striker Eduardo has been ruled out for two weeks after picking up a hamstring injury in his comeback game against Cardiff on Monday.

The Croatia international made a dream return with two goals in the 4-0 FA Cup fourth-round replay victory.

Boss Arsene Wenger said: "He picked up a hamstring injury two minutes before I took him off. What a nightmare."


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 19, 2009, 05:08:28 PM
Ah FFS. His presence had injected a fresh confidence in the side. With Roma coming up next week he would have been handy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on February 20, 2009, 10:36:29 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 19, 2009, 04:26:27 PM
Eduardo suffers new injury blow 

Eduardo scored twice on his return against Cardiff in the FA Cup
Arsenal striker Eduardo has been ruled out for two weeks after picking up a hamstring injury in his comeback game against Cardiff on Monday.

The Croatia international made a dream return with two goals in the 4-0 FA Cup fourth-round replay victory.

Boss Arsene Wenger said: "He picked up a hamstring injury two minutes before I took him off. What a nightmare."






Well fcuk that. I am heading over to the Fulham game next Saturday and was really looking forward to seeing him.

Drat , Drat and Double Drat !!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 20, 2009, 11:22:06 AM
Looks like it an Irishman is going to sort out Arsenal's medical problems

QuoteIreland rugby team doctor Gary O'Driscoll was presented with a Manchester United jersey before he took up a new role -- with rivals Arsenal.

The tongue-in-cheek gift was handed to Dr O'Driscoll before Ireland's Six Nations win against Italy at the weekend.

The match was his last game as doctor to the Irish team before joining Premier League giants Arsenal.

An expert in sports injuries, he has taken on the challenging role of ensuring top athletes such as Cesc Fabregas and Emmanuel Adebayor receive the best treatment.

He will be under the watchful eye of Gunners boss Arsene Wenger.

Dr O'Driscoll, who is thought to be a Red Devils fan, took up his new post with immediate effect following Sunday's game in which Ireland ran out 38-9 winners against Italy.

The performance of his cousin, Ireland team captain Brian O'Driscoll, shows just how good he is at his job.

O'Driscoll revealed his troublesome hamstring injuries are a thing of the past.

He scored a wonderful intercept try with four minutes to go in the game, helping Ireland to stay on track for a Grand Slam title.

"In the past, if I was faced with a 70-metre sprint for a try at the close of a very physical game, there could be trouble," O'Driscoll said to reporters.

"But I was able to go flat-out and didn't feel a thing. I'm thrilled," he said.

Dr O'Driscoll's first fixture as Arsenal team doctor was last night's FA Cup tie with Cardiff, while his first Premier League game will be a home match against Sunderland on Saturday.

While the Premier League is known for its physicality, Dr O'Driscoll is prepared.

One of his last jobs for Ireland was to stem the blood gushing from the face of Paddy Wallace. There were a number of other blood injuries which he had to contend with as the tough tackling Italians made their presence felt.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on February 20, 2009, 02:11:34 PM
team for weekend??

almunia
sagna gallas toure clichy
eboue song denilson nasri
Van persie arshavin
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 21, 2009, 09:00:13 AM
Tomas Rosicky could be back in Reserve team action within three weeks.

It is now over a year since the Czech midfielder last appeared for Arsenal in an FA Cup tie against Newcastle United at Emirates Stadium. However, his long-awaited return to the fold is closer than ever.

Speaking ahead of Saturday's clash with Sunderland, Arsène Wenger delivered some positive news on Rosicky before revealing the latest on his other injured personnel.

"Tomas needs three weeks to play in training fully fit," Wenger said. "He is still doing special training but in three weeks he will join in with the first team. It will be three weeks to play in the Reserves, touch wood.

"Rosicky looks very good in training, he looks unbelievably strong. Fabregas looks good, Diaby will come back. Rosicky is three weeks, Cesc four weeks, Theo two weeks."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on February 21, 2009, 10:00:13 AM
Great boost getting all back around the same time....Eduardo should be 2-3 weeks as well..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 22, 2009, 12:46:45 AM
Balax.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 24, 2009, 09:26:09 PM
Good to see Eboue having a decent game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on February 26, 2009, 11:25:59 AM
i don't think eboue is a bad player he just needs more experience. but he's definitly better and his defensive duties.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 26, 2009, 12:17:51 PM
Chelsea forward Salomon Kalou has revealed he would welcome the opportunity to play for Arsenal.

The 23-year-old has failed to nail down a regular starting berth this season but has benefited from Joe Cole's absence through injury by starting Guus Hiddink's first two games in charge.

The Ivory Coast international has scored nine times in all competitions this term and set up striker Didier Drogba for the only goal of the game in the firsrt leg of their UEFA Champions League last 16 tie against Juventus at Stamford Bridge on Wednesday.

But after his recent comments the former Feyenoord ace could find his place in jeopardy, especially after he responded favourably to reported interest from London rivals Arsenal.

"Wenger said he thought of signing me? That's an honour for me, an honour," he told.

"Because he is a very great coach and I know that every single player in the world dreams of playing for him.

"I have a lot of respect for him, he is one of the best coaches in the world so why not?

Friends
"I am still under contract with Chelsea but of course I have plenty of friends who play for Arsenal in Kolo Toure, Emmanuel Eboue and Emmanuel Adebayor.

"They are achieving huge things at Arsenal and watching them play is just beautiful."

With just 12 starts to his name in the Premier League this campaign Kalou is aware of the challenge that he faces if he is to hold on to his first team place until the end of the season.

"You are never guaranteed to be in the Chelsea starting XI," he added.

"Every single player fights to earn his place, including me, and the coach is the one that has the final word.

"At the present I'm happy at Chelsea and I hope that the things that I want to happen will happen.

"I will think of my future once the season is over."

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on February 26, 2009, 04:26:47 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on February 26, 2009, 11:25:59 AM
i don't think eboue is a bad player he just needs more experience. but he's definitly better and his defensive duties.


Hes had a fair bit of experience.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 28, 2009, 09:54:49 AM
Good ole Jens. Still mad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfKvnEMEIOU

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xo6LsUuppc&NR=1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2009, 05:08:03 PM
No Champions League next season  ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 28, 2009, 06:20:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2009, 05:08:03 PM
No Champions League next season  ???

Brutal today - Fulham deserved to win.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 01, 2009, 03:47:25 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 28, 2009, 09:54:49 AM
Good ole Jens. Still mad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfKvnEMEIOU

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xo6LsUuppc&NR=1

Now I know what U2's 'Get on your boot' was about.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on March 01, 2009, 06:34:45 PM
Just back from the Fulham game .

Met the Gooch and Eoin Brosnan at it. Quiet lads but pleasant.

On the flight home to Belfast this afternoon was Tom Watts ( Lofty from Eastenders  and now presenter of Arsenal Forum Live every Friday nifght on Arsenal TV.)

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 03, 2009, 10:19:56 PM
Title challenge well and truely on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 03, 2009, 10:31:12 PM
Villa will count the cost of sundays slip up at home to Stoke.  We are away to Anfield and Old Trafford soon and that could be where the six points are made up by the gooners (if they win their games). 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on March 04, 2009, 09:55:02 AM
If arsenal can continue to play well against the big teams fourth place should be ours. Didn't see the goals last night but i heard bentner's second was good. With goal difference very tight with us and Villa it will go down the last match of the season imo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: shark on March 04, 2009, 10:30:18 AM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on March 04, 2009, 09:55:02 AM
If arsenal can continue to play well against the big teams fourth place should be ours. Didn't see the goals last night but i heard bentner's second was good. With goal difference very tight with us and Villa it will go down the last match of the season imo.

With Villa at home to an already relegated Newcastle  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 05, 2009, 11:02:45 PM
Nice to see the young guns continue the tradition of beating the Spuds  :D

QuoteTwo late goals at White Hart Lane saw Arsenal book an FA Youth Cup semi final place at the expense of North London rivals Tottenham on Thursday evening.

The young Gunners saw off their counterparts 3-1 in the quarter finals of the competition after initially falling behind to an early Jonathan Obika goal, live in front of the Setanta Sports cameras.

The Spurs striker turned home Andros Townsend's cross from the left wing after just six minutes to give the hosts the lead after a confident start, and the half continued to offer chances for both sides.

Obika could have added a second but sidefooted Ryan Mason's dinked ball wide, while Jack Wilshere's run and shot were blocked. Gilles Sunu had Arsenal's best chance of the half towards the break when he took on Wilshere's perfectly-weighted through ball, but Oscar Jansson denied the striker with a save low to his right.

Arsenal were level within five minutes of the start of the second half when Kyle Bartley met a near-post corner with the back of his head, and Jansson had to foil Gunners captain Jay Emmanuel-Thomas as Steve Bould's youngsters gleaned a confidence from their equaliser.

Sanchez Watt skimmed the bar with a shot for Arsenal while Mason fired wide for Spurs as the game became more stretched and the action flowed from end to end.

However, Emmanuel-Thomas stepped up in the 90th minute to fire a shot from the edge of the area past Jansson – with the help of a slight deflection – as Arsenal snatched an advantage at the death.

There was enough injury time for Ryhs Murphy to latch onto a long ball forward and confidently send a low effort past Jansson as Arsenal added gloss to the scoreline.

The Gunners will now face either Norwich or Manchester City away in the semis.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on March 08, 2009, 01:27:12 PM
C,mon lads. Need a comfortable win here today !
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on March 08, 2009, 02:43:33 PM
What a goal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 11, 2009, 10:30:11 PM
Is Almunia gonna try and save any of these Pens...........?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 11, 2009, 10:34:40 PM
Well done Gooners, i was expecting Riise to put his out of the stadium
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 11, 2009, 10:39:00 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 11, 2009, 10:32:04 PM
Both 'keepers are dung.

For about 4 pens in a row the Roma keeper just fell on his hole.

Arse lucky enough tonight. Thankfully for them Baptista couldn't kick snow off a rope.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 11, 2009, 11:08:12 PM
(http://filmtunes.net/MICHULI/ambulance.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on March 11, 2009, 11:59:27 PM
What a relief is all I can say !!!!

Hate the penalty shootout when the Gunners are involved. It dates back to 1980 when we lost the Cup Winners Cup Final shootout against Valencia ( whatever happened to them)  when Rixie missed the penalty.

Thank God we 're through so I dont have to listen to the Man U ones tomorrow at work.

Going to the Man City game on April 4TH. Got a ticket on Ticket Exchange in the Section behind the Arsenal Dugout Row 18.

Might take a dander up and get some autographs
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 12, 2009, 09:30:19 AM
Terrible game, Almunia is terrible at penalty shoot-outs really shocking.

Still a quarter-final to look forward to and apart from maybe Barca there really is nothing there to fear for this Arsenal side but still would be happy for Arsenal to avoid any of the other English sides.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 12, 2009, 01:37:19 PM
poor performance but still we are through. qf will be on early april so hopefully cesc will be back then too.
Two big games in the next week. Blackburn on saturday & Hull in the cup on tuesday. a win against blackburn and we are back level with villa .pressure on them then on sunday against spuds then hull in the qf of the cup
would like to see eduardo and bentner together up front on saturday,then use van persie and eduardo or (adebayor if he is back) on tuesday. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 12, 2009, 01:51:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 12, 2009, 09:30:19 AM
Terrible game, Almunia is terrible at penalty shoot-outs really shocking.

Jaysus are you serious? Almunia is well known for his penalty shootout ability and has made a collection of important saves from the spot. Rem the cup v Sheff Utd as well as a few others (Doncaster I think stands out). His penalty saved v Robbie Keane made him a shot-stopping legend.

Yesterday he saved one and went the correct way three times. You have to give the penalty takers credit too, they can make the keeper look like a dick if they send him the other way.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 12, 2009, 02:03:44 PM
ONeill,

He never looked like saving any last night and both goalies were truly terrible during the spot kicks I was really only referring to last nights game although two Carling cup games against lower league team isn't really a vindication, he's just not an imposing goalkeeper and does not inspire me. Actually some of the penalties last night were terrible imho, just look at the only one he saved and he should have saved at least two others.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 12, 2009, 05:52:23 PM
eduardo is out for the blackburn game. groin injury. This might explain his brutal peno. Would go with Arshevin and Bentner up front then.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on March 12, 2009, 09:45:39 PM
Quoteeduardo is out for the blackburn game. groin injury. This might explain his brutal peno.

errr...no.  it would take another broken leg to explain that effort of a penalty.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Maiden1 on March 13, 2009, 02:30:01 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 12, 2009, 02:03:44 PM
ONeill,

He never looked like saving any last night and both goalies were truly terrible during the spot kicks I was really only referring to last nights game although two Carling cup games against lower league team isn't really a vindication, he's just not an imposing goalkeeper and does not inspire me. Actually some of the penalties last night were terrible imho, just look at the only one he saved and he should have saved at least two others.
Have to agree with Dinny, Almunia did not look imposing at all in the shootout.  He scrunched himself up really small and looked like a little boy in the middle of the net.  He should take a leaf out of Dudek's book and stand tall and wave his arms or something.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 13, 2009, 03:02:20 PM
Was reading that Walcott said Arsenal celebrated like they had won the world cup after Weds night, I am hoping they were wrecked as it is tough physical game against Blackburn this weekend so hoping they drop some points. 
Also if Arsenal win the CL (no pressure) then Villa finishing fourth would mean eff all anyway as Arsenal would qualify for next seasons CL.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on March 14, 2009, 11:14:47 AM
Hoping for a victory today an early goal would settle the nerves and i bet Arshavin to get it inside the first 20minutes. 3-0 ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 14, 2009, 04:30:13 PM
Arsehavin spares bentners blushes with a cracking finish!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 14, 2009, 04:34:43 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on March 14, 2009, 11:14:47 AM
Hoping for a victory today an early goal would settle the nerves and i bet Arshavin to get it inside the first 20minutes. 3-0 ;) ;) ;)

You could be on to something here.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 14, 2009, 04:42:26 PM
Bentner is having an uber mare :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 14, 2009, 04:50:42 PM
3 zip - Eboue with the 3rd.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 14, 2009, 04:54:55 PM
4 zip - Eboue with wait for it....



A penalty!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 14, 2009, 07:12:55 PM
Sort of a nice day all-round today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 14, 2009, 07:17:07 PM
Good week for the gooners, pressure on Villa tomorrow, need to see a reaction from them otherwise goodbye to 4th with Anfield on the horizon next week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 15, 2009, 08:21:07 AM
Great performance from Arshavin yesterday. He's a tricky customer and his goal was very Messi-like. Bendtner missed 27 chances yesterday. Funny only because Arsenal knocked four in, but had it been another 0-0, the Dane would've been strung up outside Highbury.

A great pity all those draws and injuries. Arsenal haven't lost in the league since November, and have hardly conceded a goal since then too.

Diouf is a complete twat.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 15, 2009, 11:04:08 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 15, 2009, 08:21:07 AM
Great performance from Arshavin yesterday. He's a tricky customer and his goal was very Messi-like. Bendtner missed 27 chances yesterday. Funny only because Arsenal knocked four in, but had it been another 0-0, the Dane would've been strung up outside Highbury.

A great pity all those draws and injuries. Arsenal haven't lost in the league since November, and have hardly conceded a goal since then too.

Diouf is a complete t**t.

Awful tackle by Diouf, and probably should've had a red card.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on March 15, 2009, 02:10:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 12, 2009, 02:03:44 PM
ONeill,

He never looked like saving any last night and both goalies were truly terrible during the spot kicks I was really only referring to last nights game although two Carling cup games against lower league team isn't really a vindication, he's just not an imposing goalkeeper and does not inspire me. Actually some of the penalties last night were terrible imho, just look at the only one he saved and he should have saved at least two others.

keepers arent really expected to save from 12 yards in fairness
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 15, 2009, 04:17:51 PM
Villa 0 Spuds 1!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gunnergael on March 15, 2009, 10:32:17 PM
Thought the crowd treatment of Bendtner was bad form yesterday.  He misses an awful lot of chances but he's only 21 and still learning his trade....between this and the eboue incident, makes me think the prawn sandwhich brigade are out in force at the Emirates this season.

Great performance from the team though, Arshavin looks the business.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gunnergael on March 15, 2009, 10:37:57 PM
Aye lol you can always rely on Jimmy to call it as he sees it!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on March 15, 2009, 10:49:57 PM
They re getting their act together cos they know that yours truely will be over for the Man City game.

Managed to get a seat in Block 1 which is directly behind the Gunners dugout.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 15, 2009, 11:00:45 PM
What did Jimmy Magee say about Bendtner? He is rubbish right enough - does not have the touch you'd associate with an Arsene Wenger player.

Eboue looks better now - he went through a phase where his head seemed well and truly up his arse.

I have a feeling arsenal could win something this year - something tells me the champions league...

Can Arshavin play CL?(didn't see the roma game)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on March 15, 2009, 11:05:33 PM
Quote from: hardstation on March 15, 2009, 10:34:22 PM
Aye, but Jaysus, he was crap.

Did ya hear Jimmy Magee about him?

Jimmy would know all about being crap.

Remember when UTV employed him in the mid 90s to do their GAA commentary.

It was embarrassing listening to him, Total CRAP !!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on March 15, 2009, 11:07:03 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 15, 2009, 11:00:45 PM
What did Jimmy Magee say about Bendtner? He is rubbish right enough - does not have the touch you'd associate with an Arsene Wenger player.

Eboue looks better now - he went through a phase where his head seemed well and truly up his arse.

I have a feeling arsenal could win something this year - something tells me the champions league...

Can Arshavin play CL?(didn't see the roma game)

Read somewhere that he is cup-tied which is very disappointing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 15, 2009, 11:10:50 PM
Yep he played for Zenit earlier so he's cup tied. But if Rosicky and Fabregas are fit by then, Arsenal can progress with a nicer draw (Porto/Villarreal).

Well done Spuds today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on March 15, 2009, 11:15:30 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 15, 2009, 11:10:50 PM
Yep he played for Zenit earlier so he's cup tied. But if Rosicky and Fabregas are fit by then, Arsenal can progress with a nicer draw (Porto/Villarreal).

Well done Spuds today.

Yes. They did us a favour . Villa are on the wane so hopefully we can secure 4th spot without too much trouble.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on March 16, 2009, 01:05:52 PM
Quote from: Gunnergael on March 15, 2009, 10:32:17 PM
Thought the crowd treatment of Bendtner was bad form yesterday.  He misses an awful lot of chances but he's only 21 and still learning his trade....between this and the eboue incident, makes me think the prawn sandwhich brigade are out in force at the Emirates this season.

Great performance from the team though, Arshavin looks the business.

Bendtner was rubbish and the fans have had enough of his inconsistancy in front of goal - if mr Henry had of had those chances he would have bagged at least 4 - this has been our problem all year.
I enjoyed the announcer when eboue scored - 'the third goal by the arsenal goalscoring machine eboue!'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on March 16, 2009, 06:46:20 PM
My prediction wasn't too far wrong.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 17, 2009, 09:59:43 PM
Hull manager not happy!! Says Fabregas spat at the Hull assistant manager. Wenger wouldnt shake his hand either!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 17, 2009, 10:16:12 PM
Fabregas has a history of spitting. It'll be interesting to see if Dinny Breen opens another spitting thread for the Cesc incident as he did previously.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 17, 2009, 11:16:31 PM
Lucky in one sense that the goal was offside. However, if you attack incessantly you'll get that rub sometimes. The Russian has made some difference to his side. His energy and fight is contagious.

So, a final berth. Chelsea should pose no problems in the semi.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on March 17, 2009, 11:44:31 PM
Good result though I was hoping it would have been more convincing. 

Want to keep the momentum of the past fortnight going. Remember that I am expected at the Emirates on 4th April for the Man City game so everybody over there better be on their toes for then.!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 18, 2009, 06:40:52 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 17, 2009, 11:16:31 PM
Lucky in one sense that the goal was offside. However, if you attack incessantly you'll get that rub sometimes. The Russian has made some difference to his side. His energy and fight is contagious.

So, a final berth. Chelsea should pose no problems in the semi.

Firstly. What position does Arshavin play? I thought he was a midfielder but he seems to have a roving role.
Secondly. Delighted you have predicted Chelsea's demise as the last time you predicted that you came a cropper.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2009, 09:28:42 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 18, 2009, 06:40:52 AM
Secondly. Delighted you have predicted Chelsea's demise as the last time you predicted that you came a cropper.

Mmm, always amazes me the way some can remember things on this board. I can barely recall the previous day's posts on the best of occasions. What did I say?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 18, 2009, 09:37:59 AM
QuoteFabregas has a history of spitting. It'll be interesting to see if Dinny Breen opens another spitting thread for the Cesc incident as he did previously.

Show me the evidence and I'll condemn it as easily as I condemned the scum that is John Terry or is this just another one of your idiotic posts around Arsenal.  ::)


As for the game goal was offside no arguements but without a replay no-one would have called that.

Looking forward to the semi hopefully Arsenall will put those Russians to the sword, will be interesting to see if Chelsea will actually try and play or just try to bully Arsenal as usual.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 18, 2009, 02:01:47 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 18, 2009, 09:37:59 AM
QuoteFabregas has a history of spitting. It'll be interesting to see if Dinny Breen opens another spitting thread for the Cesc incident as he did previously.

Show me the evidence and I'll condemn it as easily as I condemned the scum that is John Terry or is this just another one of your idiotic posts around Arsenal.  ::)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNh67eCJ0A8
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 18, 2009, 02:03:37 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 18, 2009, 09:28:42 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 18, 2009, 06:40:52 AM
Secondly. Delighted you have predicted Chelsea's demise as the last time you predicted that you came a cropper.

Mmm, always amazes me the way some can remember things on this board. I can barely recall the previous day's posts on the best of occasions. What did I say?

There is a direct correlation between what I remember, and how easilly I am annoyed.  :)
It was when Chelsea were on that 70, 80 odd game unbeaten run, and you asked when was the last time Chelsea lost with the retort that it'll end today (Chelsea v Arsenal).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 18, 2009, 02:16:50 PM
In that clip he looks like he spit on Ballack pretty vile and puts him up there as sc**bag just like John Terry.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 18, 2009, 02:23:29 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 18, 2009, 02:16:50 PM
In that clip he looks like he spit on Ballack pretty vile and puts him up there as sc**bag just like John Terry.

Are you still maintaining Terry spat/gobbed on Tevez in the Champions Legaue final even though it was inconclusive.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 18, 2009, 02:25:12 PM
QuoteAre you still maintaining Terry spat/gobbed on Tevez in the Champions Legaue final even though it was inconclusive.

Nothing inconclusive in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 18, 2009, 03:19:17 PM
lucky decision to get us through. but sometimes things go that way and othertimes decisions go against you.
i dont think whether or not cesc spat will not be solved.as it is his word against the fellow from hull. He may be in trouble though for being on the field when he is not in the squad though hopefully not!

qualifying for FA Cup semi and a champions league quarter as well as returning to 4th place so not a bad week!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 18, 2009, 04:16:48 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on March 17, 2009, 09:59:43 PM
Hull manager not happy!! Says Fabregas spat at the Hull assistant manager. Wenger wouldnt shake his hand either!

(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00683/wenger_brown_682x40_683224a.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 18, 2009, 04:18:21 PM
Spitting really is the lowest of the low - Id kick the arse of a team mate who did it, what happens among these professional sportsmen that makes it acceptable so often?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: YogiBear on March 18, 2009, 04:20:07 PM
Just listening to Ian Wright on Talksport giving a very angry and passionate defence of Cesc and Arsenal.  Said Phil Brown loves the attention and its all about him and he loves the drama(remember their Man City game), Wright said he was disgusted Brown did what he did on Setanta last nite.  Said an problem he had should have been dealt with away from cameras.  Have to agree with him hope Hull don't get 1 more pt this year and go down.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2009, 04:29:33 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 18, 2009, 02:01:47 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 18, 2009, 09:37:59 AM
QuoteFabregas has a history of spitting. It'll be interesting to see if Dinny Breen opens another spitting thread for the Cesc incident as he did previously.

Show me the evidence and I'll condemn it as easily as I condemned the scum that is John Terry or is this just another one of your idiotic posts around Arsenal.  ::)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNh67eCJ0A8

Ach don't insult the intelligence of all on the board. That clip shows Cesc shouting something in Ballack's face. The ref, players and Ballack all saw it. No one complained of spitting. I suppose you also think Ricey spat at Ballack.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 18, 2009, 04:42:52 PM
Quote from: YogiBear on March 18, 2009, 04:20:07 PM
Just listening to Ian Wright on Talksport giving a very angry and passionate defence of Cesc and Arsenal.

Who takes Ian Wright seriously these days? In fact who ever took him seriously?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 18, 2009, 05:06:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 18, 2009, 04:29:33 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 18, 2009, 02:01:47 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 18, 2009, 09:37:59 AM
QuoteFabregas has a history of spitting. It'll be interesting to see if Dinny Breen opens another spitting thread for the Cesc incident as he did previously.

Show me the evidence and I'll condemn it as easily as I condemned the scum that is John Terry or is this just another one of your idiotic posts around Arsenal.  ::)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNh67eCJ0A8

Ach don't insult the intelligence of all on the board. That clip shows Cesc shouting something in Ballack's face. The ref, players and Ballack all saw it. No one complained of spitting. I suppose you also think Ricey spat at Ballack.
The Times also made reference today to FibreGlass spitting at Ballack. They are obviously insulting the intelligence of their readers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 18, 2009, 05:11:46 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 18, 2009, 04:16:48 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on March 17, 2009, 09:59:43 PM
Hull manager not happy!! Says Fabregas spat at the Hull assistant manager. Wenger wouldnt shake his hand either!

(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00683/wenger_brown_682x40_683224a.jpg)

Watch!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IydNU152eQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IydNU152eQ)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 18, 2009, 05:21:11 PM
Setanta spent 10 mins after game going on about it, even Wenger in his interveiw said that no one came to him to shake hands, which it did look like cause he looked towards the Hull bench several times before going down the tunnel.  My only thinking is that the picture may have been at the start of game!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 18, 2009, 05:22:39 PM
Is Brown not wearing a different coloured shirt in the press conference?  Was the photo from an earlier meeting maybe?...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 18, 2009, 05:39:43 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on March 18, 2009, 05:22:39 PM
Is Brown not wearing a different coloured shirt in the press conference?  Was the photo from an earlier meeting maybe?...

Think your right! This was from last night. Not saying he didnt take it off! but its hardly the night for t shirts like some of the crowd in the other photo!
(http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xt/85469166.jpg?v=1&g=editorial17&s=1)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2009, 05:41:24 PM
Is that not from the earlier league game?

Wenger looked towards Brown. He was walking onto the pitch. Wenger then shrugged and walked down the tunnel.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 18, 2009, 05:43:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 18, 2009, 05:41:24 PM
Is that not from the earlier league game?

Wenger looked towards Brown. He was walking onto the pitch. Wenger then shrugged and walked down the tunnel.

Thats what i saw to O Neill ! Brown seems to have blown everything out of proportion last night!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 18, 2009, 05:44:09 PM
Quote from: YogiBear on March 18, 2009, 04:20:07 PM
Just listening to Ian Wright on Talksport giving a very angry and passionate defence of Cesc and Arsenal.  Said Phil Brown loves the attention and its all about him and he loves the drama(remember their Man City game), Wright said he was disgusted Brown did what he did on Setanta last nite.  Said an problem he had should have been dealt with away from cameras.  Have to agree with him hope Hull don't get 1 more pt this year and go down.

I agree with that. I am sure it was 'emotions', but he should not have vented to the nation.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2009, 05:52:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 18, 2009, 05:06:02 PM
The Times also made reference today to FibreGlass spitting at Ballack. They are obviously insulting the intelligence of their readers.

The Times said Fabregas spat at Ballack? I'm amazed they did that. What was the exact quote?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 18, 2009, 09:00:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 18, 2009, 05:52:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 18, 2009, 05:06:02 PM
The Times also made reference today to FibreGlass spitting at Ballack. They are obviously insulting the intelligence of their readers.

The Times said Fabregas spat at Ballack? I'm amazed they did that. What was the exact quote?

http://timesonline.typepad.com/thegame/2009/03/are-you-sure-yo.html

Are you sure you've never spat, Cesc?

So 'whiter than white' Cesc Fabregas has released a statement in which he claims that not only did he not spit at Brian Horton, the Hull City assistant manager, at the Emirates last night but that he has never spat during his short career.

Just to remind you, Fabregas's statement read: "I categorically deny that I spat at anybody after the match. I have never done this in my whole career on the pitch, so why would I do it when I am not even playing?"

Well Cesc, some may beg to differ after watching this clip, taken from Arsenal's Champions League match with Bayern Munich in March 2005. Fabregas clashes with Michael Ballack, now at Chelsea, before appearing to spit in the German's face from close-range. He was booked by referee Massimo De Santis and no further action was taken by Uefa.

Draw your own conclusions.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2009, 09:49:21 PM
A blog? 'appears'?

I remember ballack stating he wasn't spat at.

The Internet is not to be trusted.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 19, 2009, 01:53:16 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 18, 2009, 09:00:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 18, 2009, 05:52:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 18, 2009, 05:06:02 PM
The Times also made reference today to FibreGlass spitting at Ballack. They are obviously insulting the intelligence of their readers.

The Times said Fabregas spat at Ballack? I'm amazed they did that. What was the exact quote?

http://timesonline.typepad.com/thegame/2009/03/are-you-sure-yo.html

Are you sure you've never spat, Cesc?

So 'whiter than white' Cesc Fabregas has released a statement in which he claims that not only did he not spit at Brian Horton, the Hull City assistant manager, at the Emirates last night but that he has never spat during his short career.

Just to remind you, Fabregas's statement read: "I categorically deny that I spat at anybody after the match. I have never done this in my whole career on the pitch, so why would I do it when I am not even playing?"

Well Cesc, some may beg to differ after watching this clip, taken from Arsenal's Champions League match with Bayern Munich in March 2005. Fabregas clashes with Michael Ballack, now at Chelsea, before appearing to spit in the German's face from close-range. He was booked by referee Massimo De Santis and no further action was taken by Uefa.

Draw your own conclusions.


he was booked for the tackle. he would have gotten more than a yellow card had he spat at him and ballack would have made more of it had he been spat at.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 20, 2009, 12:18:23 PM
villareal in the quater final. Away in the first leg
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 20, 2009, 12:22:31 PM
The return of Bobby Pires and Cygan. Good memories of the semi in 06. Riquelme and Lehmann.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 20, 2009, 12:41:32 PM
Good draw especially been away in the 1st leg, think the Goons will definitely nick an away goal.

7/1 not a bad price for this comp.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: YogiBear on March 20, 2009, 01:30:27 PM
Big advantage having them back at emirites plus they are a small team who try to play football not bully players so should suit us well.  Be good to see Bobby back a true legend and playing very well by all accounts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 20, 2009, 01:38:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 20, 2009, 12:22:31 PM
The return of Bobby Pires and Cygan. Good memories of the semi in 06. Riquelme and Lehmann.

please god he is playing!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 20, 2009, 04:00:16 PM
04 Sat   H Manchester City 
07 Tue  A Villarreal 
11 Sat   A Wigan Athletic 
15 Wed  H Villarreal 
18 Sat  The FA Cup N Chelsea 
21 Tue   A Liverpool 
26 Sun  H Middlesbrough 
and hopefully!
29 Wed  UEFA Champions League A Man Utd / FC Porto 

thats sum amount of football in april!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on March 22, 2009, 12:12:09 PM
Agreed thats alot of games, just hope theres very little injuries and we have a big enough squad to cope. Good Result last night in the toon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on March 22, 2009, 01:04:02 PM
Quote from: ildanach on March 20, 2009, 01:38:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 20, 2009, 12:22:31 PM
The return of Bobby Pires and Cygan. Good memories of the semi in 06. Riquelme and Lehmann.

please god he is playing!

He's bald he's shit get's on when no one's fit....Cygan   Cygan
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 25, 2009, 10:41:45 PM
Eh? (http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/03/25/1175134/arsenal-striker-emmanuel-adebayor-to-start-for-togo)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 30, 2009, 10:17:31 PM
Interesting article on a heart breaker (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/mar/29/arsenal-liverpool-1989-football)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 30, 2009, 10:28:14 PM
Reminds me of Ride the Donkey at the Washingbay Sports in 1986. The fcuker threw a wobbly (probably cos some drunk bs'trds from Mountjoy were feedin it lager) and ran towards the lough, rampaging over the sunbathers. Some wee lad who was competing in the air rifle competition thought he'd be the hero with all the commotion and ran after it, shooting it in the head. The young fella was then bate around the field by his uncle.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 30, 2009, 10:28:59 PM
I remember playing an U-14 or U-12 match against Ballycastle that night and we were listening to it on the radio on the way home, just as i opened the door to get out of the car in Waterfoot that bastard Thomas scored.................  :'(  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 31, 2009, 12:33:31 AM
Great article minder, cheers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jiBIdtUKhs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jiBIdtUKhs)

Re-live it again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2009, 10:00:47 PM
Diaby, Bendtner and RVP injured already.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on March 31, 2009, 10:21:52 PM
Dont care about Diaby and Rodney Trotter.

Pissed off about RVP !!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 31, 2009, 10:35:17 PM
Season Ticket are doing a Pat Jennings special now on BBC1, no doubt there will be a thread opened about it at 8.59am tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiffler on March 31, 2009, 10:38:29 PM
2nd best keeper on this island ever. (after neil collins  ;))
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 05, 2009, 11:52:41 PM
Pin stripes are back!!

http://banterpit.channelbee.com/viewtopic.php?p=313839#313839

Another good win yesterday. Cesc ran the show first game back. Unbeaten in 17 now. Pity about the draws.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on April 07, 2009, 08:34:28 PM
Cracking strike from Sena.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 07, 2009, 08:37:27 PM
1-0 down at half time.

Almunia and Gallas off injured.

3 players booked.

Outplayed (outarsenaled)

Season going up in smoke....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on April 07, 2009, 08:41:15 PM
It would be wonderful if you were wrong, but I fear the worst. That has to be some of the best passing football Ive seen this season from villareal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on April 07, 2009, 09:07:02 PM
Decent spell by arsenal here, just not making the breakthrough.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on April 07, 2009, 09:09:19 PM
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOL.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 07, 2009, 09:09:50 PM
What a goal it was as well!  :o :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on April 07, 2009, 09:10:23 PM
Crackin, I scored 2 of those on the all weather pitch with a tennis ball as an 11 year old.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 07, 2009, 09:13:35 PM
Pick that one out ye big Togo ballbag.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on April 07, 2009, 09:24:11 PM
Yer man Senna can hit a ball.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiffler on April 07, 2009, 11:01:26 PM
Loving that goal tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 07, 2009, 11:37:36 PM
Looks like Gallas out for the rest of the season...knee ligament.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 08, 2009, 09:16:32 AM
Great result last night particularly after that 1st half when Arsenal were our Arsenaled, definitely a team spirit and belief there now that was missing at the start of the season.  Gallas will be a loss if he's out but I think Johan Djourou can step up to the mark and Sagna and Clichy look like their back to their defensive best and I think Song could be the best partner for Fabregas going forward, I like his attitude and he has a bit of bite about him. Two goals in the Emirates should be enough to progress as I can't see Villarreal scoring twice because for all their possession they remind me of Arsenal early season no penetration.

I really think the signing of Arshavin has kicked started Arsenal's season and the players returning from injury are returning to a side full of confidence, can definitely progress to the final and would prefer Man U in the semi-final as Arsenal would be heavy favourites against Porto.

Still hopefully good times ahead...

Oh and what a f*cking goal  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mortified on April 08, 2009, 07:37:19 PM
what a goal by ade!! stuff of legends.............role on rome
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on April 08, 2009, 07:44:09 PM
What a goal....the mans quality
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on April 09, 2009, 01:07:49 PM
Gallas out for season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gunnergael on April 10, 2009, 10:27:35 PM
Big game against Wigan.  A good physical test for a young midfield who had an average age of just over 20 on Tuesday night.  Any thoughts on a starting midfield?  Do you perservere with the both Song and Denilson as defensive midfielders.  If so one from Walcott, Nasri and Arshavin will miss out as Fabregas is a certainty.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 11, 2009, 04:57:07 PM
Happy St Totteringham's Day all Gooners!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 11, 2009, 06:46:37 PM
QuoteHappy St Totteringham's Day all Gooners!!!

And to you O'Neill, was she early this year? Actually when was the last time the spuds even finished ahead of Arsenal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 11, 2009, 11:00:13 PM
Sort of average timing. Last year was the earliest on record. 94/95 was the last time there wasn't one.

QuoteSeason      Number of Arsenal games needed (Length of season)
   
07/08   9 March 2008    29 (38)   Earliest date in Premier league and Spurs' return to the top flight.
06/07   21 April 2007   35 (38)   St T's achieved at WHL: Spurs 2 - 2 Arsenal
05/06   7 May 2006   38 (38)   Lasagne anyone? Celebrated last game at Highbury with 4th place.
04/05   2 April 2005   31 (38)   
03/04   13 March 2004   28 (38)   League champions. Earliest in Premier league! Earliest since Spurs return to top flight. Also won the league at WHL (26-April-04)
02/03   24 March 2003   31 (38)   
01/02   18 March 2002   30 (38)   Double season
00/01   17 April 2001   33 (38)
99/00   16 April 2000   32 (38)
98/99   6 April 1999   32 (38)
97/98   28 March 1998   29 (38)   Double season
96/97   5 April 1997   33 (38)
95/96   5 May 1996   38 (38)   Rioch's season
94/95   (none)   Graham sacked, European final
93/94   26 March 1994   34 (42)   ECWC winners
92/93   (none)   Double cup winners. Helge adds: "lost to them at the last day, came 3 points behind them..."
91/92   11 April 1992   38 (42)   
90/91   3 April 1991   31 (38)   League champions
89/90   (none)   Helge: "1 point behind, as we only draw in the last match (they won)"
88/89   8 April 1989   32 (38)   League champions.
87/88   3 April 1988   33 (40)   
86/87   (none)   
85/86   29 April 1986   40 (42)   
84/85   (none)   
83/84   12 May 1984   42 (42)   Andrew McKinnon: "Last day of the season. Thanks ManU."
82/83   (none)   
81/82   (none)   
80/81   20 April 1981   40 (42)   2 points for a win
79/80   12 April 1980   36 (42)   
78/79   21 April 1979   38 (42)   
77/78   Open to debate   McKinnon: "Spurs were taking a break from the top flight"
76/77   23 April 1977   37 (42)   Spurs relegated
75/76   (none)   
74/75   26 April 1975   41 (42)   Arsenal 1 Spurs 0 on 26 April.
73/74   11 May 1974   42 (42)   
72/73   7 April 1973   37 (42)   
71/72   8 May 1972   41 (42)   
70/71   17 April 1971   37 (42)   Double season. Won league at WHL.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on April 11, 2009, 11:20:35 PM
great win today ;D.going by le tissier on sky sports,bentner wasnt great up front(no shock there) and adebayor and van persie made the difference coming on.a goal for walcott will also do his confidence the world of good.hopefully get past villareal,an early goal might bring them out and suit us down to the ground with our pace on counter attack.pity we dont have arshavin eligible for champions league,if we were to get through which i think we will he could have made the difference in a tight game against utd or porto.wenger still needs 3/4 players in the summer.definitely need a commanding player to play in beside cesc,denilson isnt good enough for a team hoping to challenge for all the top honours and no harm to you dinny but song is a very very poor player.he along with eboue need shipped out to a far off country.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 11, 2009, 11:28:09 PM
Quoteno harm to you dinny but song is a very very poor player.he along with eboue need shipped out to a far off country.

I hope not but I going to beat this drum, I really see potential in Song, scored a good goal today as well and I can him having a big future at the Arsenal, give the kid time.  8)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on April 11, 2009, 11:46:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 11, 2009, 11:28:09 PM
Quoteno harm to you dinny but song is a very very poor player.he along with eboue need shipped out to a far off country.

I hope not but I going to beat this drum, I really see potential in Song, scored a good goal today as well and I can him having a big future at the Arsenal, give the kid time.  8)

Song has made a great improvement this year due to getting an extended run in the team. Was at the Man City game last week and Bendtner(AKA Rodney Trotter)  had another unbelievable miss. It was about 10 minutes to go so we had the game won but I swear, the whole stadium burst out laughing. It was as loud as if the team had scored. It was ridiculous. When I got home on Sunday evening I went through the recordings but it wasn t shown.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 11, 2009, 11:51:27 PM
Song a very very poor player? You must be joking.

You don't make the African Cup of Nations best XI being a very poor player. It's no coincidence that Arsenal's unbeaten run and improved number of clean sheets has coincided with his spell in the side. His presence is essential to allowing Cesc and Arshavin to strut their stuff. He's doing the dirty work Arsenal have been missing since Flamini left.

Villarreal hammered at home by Malaga tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 12, 2009, 11:37:26 AM
QuoteVillarreal hammered at home by Malaga tonight.

And Senna went off with his knee injured, looked pretty bad and I'd imagine he's out for the game on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 12, 2009, 02:41:52 PM
Now confirmed that Senna is out. Cockney knees up in Rome?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on April 12, 2009, 02:47:27 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 12, 2009, 02:41:52 PM
Now confirmed that Senna is out. Cockney knees up in Rome?

Martin Samuel on Sky's Sunday Supplement thinks so anyhow.!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 15, 2009, 09:48:37 PM
Fair play to the Gunners tonight excellent result.
Brilliant goal from Walcott.
Hope ye go all the way now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on April 15, 2009, 09:51:29 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on April 15, 2009, 09:48:37 PM
Fair play to the Gunners tonight excellent result.
Brilliant goal from Walcott.
Hope ye go all the way now
Hope you win your next league match too ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2009, 12:17:38 AM
Job done.

Chelsea will be no problem at the weekend.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 16, 2009, 12:23:08 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 16, 2009, 12:17:38 AM
Job done.

Chelsea will be no problem at the weekend.

Ye should probably rest a few tuesday night
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2009, 12:27:09 AM
To be honest, if I thought Liverpool had a chance of winning the league I'd feel no regret at losing a 19-game unbeaten streak at Anfield.

Having humiliated Chelsea this Saturday, I'd imagine that might happen.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 16, 2009, 12:30:11 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 16, 2009, 12:27:09 AM
To be honest, if I thought Liverpool had a chance of winning the league I'd feel no regret at losing a 19-game unbeaten streak at Anfield.

Having humiliated Chelsea this Saturday, I'd imagine that might happen.

19 game unbeaten streak at Anfield? For who Arsenal  ???
Neil Mellor might tell you different

Edit: Never mind I know what you meant now...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 16, 2009, 12:54:23 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 16, 2009, 12:17:38 AM
Job done.

Chelsea will be no problem at the weekend.

:P
Hopefully the first of 3 meetings between now and season end.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 16, 2009, 11:51:04 AM
Solid performace from the Goons last night, the non-penalty and red card killed the game and Arsenal's luck is definitely in, anyway just some observations

RVP and Ade are definitley starting to form a very formidable partneship although someone should explain off-side to Ade....
Song is getting better and better with every game and is a good foil to a refreshed Cesc....
Toure is back to his best and if gets injured the goons are f*cked......
Walcott like Cesc has his match fitness back and looking very very sharp, still needs more composure on the ball...
Still look vunerable to set-pieces but much happier to see Fabanski in goal than Almunia he just seems to be more of a presence..
Saturday is a big test for one reason and one reason only Didier Drogba, has been a thorn in Arsenal's side (Senderos still having nightmares I'm sure) for the last 3 years, and he's hitting form at the right time.....I think this game will be decided by the odd goal in 5....Chelski have the experience and should edge it.....

Still good times to be a gooner.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2009, 12:00:23 PM
Some run-in:

Saturday, 18 April 2009
The FA Cup sponsored by E.ON
Arsenal v Chelsea, SF, 17:15

Tuesday, 21 April 2009
Barclays Premier League
Liverpool v Arsenal, 20:00

Sunday, 26 April 2009
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Middlesbrough, 13:30

Wednesday, 29 April 2009
UEFA Champions League
Man Utd v Arsenal, SF, L1, 19:45

Saturday, 02 May 2009
Barclays Premier League
Portsmouth v Arsenal, 15:00

Tuesday, 05 May 2009
UEFA Champions League
Arsenal v Man Utd, SF, L2, 19:45

Sunday, 10 May 2009
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Chelsea, 16:00

Saturday, 16 May 2009
Barclays Premier League
Man Utd v Arsenal, 12:45

Sunday, 24 May 2009
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Stoke, 16:00

Then the Barca game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 16, 2009, 12:31:44 PM
QuoteThen the Barca game.

love it  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on April 16, 2009, 01:26:20 PM
That's a big run in alright...I think AW will rest a few players V Liverpool and Middlesboro...Don't think he will rest Cesc, Adeybayor or Walcott as they are the 3 who need games.

RVP might get a rest as he would be more prone to injury..With Asharvin taking his place.

Diaby will probably play in place of Nasri. And who ever is not going to play between Song and Denilson in the Utd game will probably play against Liverpool.


Just glad to still be involved in the business end the way things were going...

Oh by the way ONeill your going to have to fit the FA Cup final in there somewhere as well.... ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Diet Coke on April 16, 2009, 01:32:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 16, 2009, 12:00:23 PM
Some run-in:

Saturday, 18 April 2009
The FA Cup sponsored by E.ON
Arsenal v Chelsea, SF, 17:15

Tuesday, 21 April 2009
Barclays Premier League
Liverpool v Arsenal, 20:00

Sunday, 26 April 2009
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Middlesbrough, 13:30

Wednesday, 29 April 2009
UEFA Champions League
Man Utd v Arsenal, SF, L1, 19:45

Saturday, 02 May 2009
Barclays Premier League
Portsmouth v Arsenal, 15:00

Tuesday, 05 May 2009
UEFA Champions League
Arsenal v Man Utd, SF, L2, 19:45

Sunday, 10 May 2009
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Chelsea, 16:00

Saturday, 16 May 2009
Barclays Premier League
Man Utd v Arsenal, 12:45

Sunday, 24 May 2009
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Stoke, 16:00

Then the Barca game.

Toughest match of the lot ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 16, 2009, 05:52:20 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on April 16, 2009, 01:26:20 PM

Oh by the way ONeill your going to have to fit the FA Cup final in there somewhere as well.... ;)

its the saturday after the champions league final!!! ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 16, 2009, 06:57:40 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on March 31, 2009, 10:21:52 PM
Dont care about Diaby and Rodney Trotter.

Pissed off about RVP !!

:D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 16, 2009, 07:04:51 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on April 15, 2009, 09:48:37 PM
Fair play to the Gunners tonight excellent result.
Brilliant goal from Walcott.
Hope ye go all the way now

id second that unreal awareness by cesc and great finish from theo.  used think he was all pace and not much end product last 12 months changed my mind though very good player!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on April 16, 2009, 10:52:50 PM
Any of you Gooner fans happen to be a silver member?
Headin over for the second leg of the Champs League with a mate who is a silver member and who in all likelihood will get a ticket when they go on sale next Thursday morning. I am a Red member and theres no chance that the tickets will be offered to Reds.
So if you are a silver member but dont intend to use it for the game then could you PM me about a lend for the match?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2009, 11:36:56 PM
Nope, just a red.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on April 16, 2009, 11:39:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 16, 2009, 11:36:56 PM
Nope, just a red.

Ah Jaysus, O Neill, when I saw that you had posted I started getting all excited thinking you were gonna weigh in with the old silver!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on April 16, 2009, 11:45:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 16, 2009, 11:41:56 PM
A lend? You swear you'll give the stub back?

Just the membership card, hardstation .
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on April 18, 2009, 07:21:54 PM
disappointing result today.a clear lack of quality in key positions (fabianski,silvestre,denilson in paticular) and bad team selection by wenger(arshavin?what was going on there?) cost us dearly in pursuit of a creditable finish to the season.as much as im his biggest critic i actually feel playing a team like chelsea would have suited song because hes physical and chelsea are all very physical too but no he was dropped.would never beat utd with a performance and team like that
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 18, 2009, 07:42:08 PM
Why the feck to wenger take off Adebayor and to a lesser extent Van Persie? The FA cup was the arses best chance of a trophy and with 4th all but sealed there is no need to safe them for the Liverpool game on tues.

Where either injured?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on April 18, 2009, 08:01:53 PM
Hopefully Fabianski keeps her lit on Tuesday night.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 20, 2009, 12:37:08 AM
That was a really odd selection from Wenger. I know the back 4 were crocked but dropping Arshavin and Nasri was puzzle-some to say the least. Wenger hasn't really taken the FA Cup seriously since he was a serial finalist but I thought after a few years of a drought he'd be going for the balls. Dropping the Russian was the biggest shock, as he cannot play CL football anyway. It does look like Wenger and Fergie are unwilling to risk full teams ahead of the CL games.

Chelsea, and fair play to their manager, went for it in terms of selection and deservedly reached the final.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 20, 2009, 09:08:32 AM
Just can't fathom what Le Boss was thinking with Arshavin, he's been the catalyst for Arsenal's run in the league and cup, just defies belief especially as O'Neill points out he's not playing CL, just as amazing was that he didn't start Song and left Diaby on the pitch, really that was a game they could have won if Arsenal really wanted it, Wenger obviously feels Man U are their for the taking and has put all his eggs into the CL.

Although far from my favourite club bloody Malouda, Drogba, Lampard, Essien and Ballack were all excellent for Chelsea on Sunday, thank god GH is not hanging around for next season, a fantastic manager and he and his team fully deserved their victory although what has happened Cech  :o

What is it about new stadiums and pitches, Croke Park, Millenium and now Wembley, how hard is it to get it  right from the start....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 20, 2009, 01:41:46 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 20, 2009, 09:08:32 AM
Just can't fathom what Le Boss was thinking with Arshavin, he's been the catalyst for Arsenal's run in the league and cup, just defies belief especially as O'Neill points out he's not playing CL, just as amazing was that he didn't start Song and left Diaby on the pitch, really that was a game they could have won if Arsenal really wanted it, Wenger obviously feels Man U are their for the taking and has put all his eggs into the CL.

Although far from my favourite club bloody Malouda, Drogba, Lampard, Essien and Ballack were all excellent for Chelsea on Sunday, thank god GH is not hanging around for next season, a fantastic manager and he and his team fully deserved their victory although what has happened Cech  :o

What is it about new stadiums and pitches, Croke Park, Millenium and now Wembley, how hard is it to get it  right from the start....

I thought Essien was quiet to be honest, and Lampard immense.

Do you Goons think that the rest of the Arsenal team seen their line-up and went into a shell i.e. lacked belief? There was never any stage Saturday that I thought Arsenal looked like they might win it. I also thought Wenger's pre match comments about the pitch etc etc set the wrong tone. It gave the players a get out clause as such.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2009, 08:51:22 PM
Well well - Wenger does his best to give Liverpool a chance at the title - no Walcott, Adebayor, Diaby, Van Persie - and the Pool are making a hash of it.

Benitez needs to get the finger out at half time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 21, 2009, 09:08:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 21, 2009, 08:51:22 PM
Well well - Wenger does his best to give Liverpool a chance at the title - no Walcott, Adebayor, Diaby, Van Persie - and the Pool are making a hash of it. Benitez needs to get the finger out at half time.
both injured ....so not taking a chance before man u next week
we seem to be doing ok at the minute!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 21, 2009, 09:08:55 PM
spoke to soon >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2009, 09:11:34 PM
Defence crap. Liverpool really should take this.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2009, 09:18:20 PM
Gibbs looks like he's 15
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2009, 09:25:17 PM
Walcott on - should offer some kind of threat.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on April 21, 2009, 09:26:54 PM
Walcott may offer threat but he will not strengthen your non existent defence!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on April 21, 2009, 09:28:07 PM
What a screamer! Fair play to the ruskie
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2009, 09:29:41 PM
Maybe not, but if Liverpool are pushing, he'll hurt them on the break.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on April 21, 2009, 09:31:49 PM
You Ruskie beauty! get in there
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on April 21, 2009, 09:34:34 PM
some match 3-3 now keeper a bit weak
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2009, 09:42:19 PM
I don't think Arshavin was there for the teamtalk.

Arsene 'Take her aisey lads, I wanna wind up big Whiskey Nose'

Arshavin 'Whatski he sayski?'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2009, 09:48:48 PM
Someone stick a rocket up Arshavin's hole?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on April 21, 2009, 09:50:30 PM
Get in there u ruskie beauty, yeehaa
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2009, 09:56:29 PM
Can't believe he's ineligible for the CL.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on April 21, 2009, 09:57:51 PM
delighted he is ineligible  for the CL,lol Great game from both teams draw fair result Arsharvin is class
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on April 21, 2009, 10:06:36 PM
would have taken a draw before hand but being 4-3 up at anfield in the 90th minute,i would expect west brom to close it our.our defence totally rubbish.toure seems to be the only player with half an idea of what he is doing.silvestre totally done,shouldnt be there.for the 4th liverpool goal i think liverpool had more men in the box than us,please explain that one arsene.also another fantastic decision of wengers not to start him on saturday since he was pretty average tonight ::)wenger has totally transformed the club and taken them to a new level in the last ten years but jees i dont understand him at times.he needs to swallow his pride and go out and buy some quality players,not relying on complete duds like silvestre,bentner,eboue,denilson and song
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2009, 10:07:40 PM
Never seen Arsenal defend so badly bloody comical at times, the Gooners just couldn't live with Liverpools intensity, game by-passed a lot of Arsenal players and they didn't deserve anything from that game, enjoyable all the same. I suppose a little bit of pay back for the FA Cup robbery in 2001.

O'Neill, can you see now why I was so excited about Arshavin signing  8)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2009, 10:09:28 PM
Quotenot relying on complete duds like silvestre,bentner,eboue,denilson and song

What ever about the merits of the others Song played very well tonight and seemed to fighting a losing battle on his own...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2009, 10:11:01 PM
Left - Right - Right - Left.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on April 21, 2009, 10:11:57 PM
i wouldnt say he played very well tonight but he played better than he has been.im basing that comment on this season and last season or two's performance dinny
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 21, 2009, 10:14:46 PM

Liverpool gifted  Arshavin 4 goals
Though his 3rd and 4th and especially his 3rd were brilliant
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2009, 10:15:41 PM
I agree Song was poor last season but he hadn't settled into a position but he has had a run of games this year cemented the defensive mid-field role and is one of the main reasons Arsenal are unbeaten in 18 in the league. Good in the tackle and his distribution has really improved, imho he's getting better and better.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on April 21, 2009, 10:16:11 PM
we arent talking about arshavin rll,we are talking about song,tune in :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on April 21, 2009, 10:23:18 PM
song has improved since he has came to the club and yes he had been previously switched between midfield and defence but hes still not good enough to be a commanding defensive midfielder in the way silva or vieira was or petit.he is young but we cant afford to wait another 2 or 3 years for him to mature into a top class player if he ever does.we need at least 3/4 quality players in now otherwise we wont be able to keep of cesc and RVP who are quite clearly our two main men at the minute!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2009, 11:13:24 PM
Cesc was a wee bit subdued today as well. Looks like he's only up for the CL at this end of the season. I was impressed with Song again. Gilberto wasn't flashy and Song has grown into that role rapidly this season. The likes of Denilson only seems to perform when the side is well on top. On the back foot,games can pass him by. Diaby worked hard for the short time he was on.

Badly need a full strength side next week, especially Clichy and even Djourou.

Can see a very weakened side v Middlebrough this Sunday morning, maybe with Eduardo/Bendtner starting, especially if Villa and Everton drop points on Saturday. He may even rest Cesc with Denilson and Diaby in the centre, Arshavin and Nasri on the wings. If Toure picks up an injury Arsenal are fecked completely.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on April 21, 2009, 11:21:43 PM
i could be wrong but im pretty sure djourou out for the season,clichy must be a big doubt for next week,could badly do with him back tho.silva wasnt a flashy player.i thot he was a very good passer of the ball.when he was struggling for games at arsenal he was still getting a regular game with brazil.if you look at the other top teams and compare their holding midfield players to ours,well thats the problem there is no comparison!even with everton and villa,well maybe not so much everton now with arteta being injured.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 21, 2009, 11:24:59 PM
I'm loath to admit it but Liverpool were probably a bit unlucky there. Superb attacking from Arsenal at times. Arshavin's second was pure class. Neat build up for the first as well. Think Wenger needs to let his defence know that there are times when hoofing the ball 40 yards up the pitch is the right thing to do!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 22, 2009, 07:23:49 AM
both defences we're brutal though Pool had to take chances cos they needed the win. Silvestre is another Cygan (every time he touches it i expect a mistake) and Sagna looked to be running on empty last 20mins!

Arsenal on the counter attack were brilliant and Arshavin, if he was available, would probably make the difference in us winning the CL! Arshavin was out of the game for the first half hour but once he got the 1st he was a thorn in Liverpools side! Cesc was played out of position and I cant believe Denilson wasn't subbed before half time. He constantly gave the ball away and gave Arsenal nothing coming forward! I have been critical of Song but in the last month he has held down the position in midfield and as said above, he aint flashy but does the job and not afraid to put the foot or shoulder in when its needed! Bendtner is useless and gives us no threat either in the air of on the deck, has to go!

Theo yet again scared the shíte out of the pool defence, his pace is ridiculous!

All in all was happy with a 4 all draw but should and could have been 7-6 either way!

Few big signings needed Especially at the back! Hope to God RVP and Adebayor are fit for CL against the Mancs or we are screwed!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on April 22, 2009, 10:02:43 AM
AS a Gooner I took very little from this game.
Defending was shocking and Arshavin can t even play in ther Champions League cos he is cup tied.
Cant see us competing with United at this rate.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyronefella on April 22, 2009, 12:04:36 PM
I think eduardo could still make a impact this season. hopefully hel get game time against boro to set him up for the manchester game, definetly worth putting on in front of donkey bendtner.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrsandman on April 22, 2009, 12:13:32 PM
Arshavin Abú
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 22, 2009, 12:44:29 PM
Quote from: Tommy Tight Lips on April 21, 2009, 11:21:43 PM
i could be wrong but im pretty sure djourou out for the season,clichy must be a big doubt for next week,could badly do with him back tho.

djourou will be back,read somewhere that he and clichy will both be fit for utd game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 23, 2009, 09:02:48 PM
RVP out - bollocks to that

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/23042009/58/champions-league-van-persie-united-clash.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on April 23, 2009, 10:14:03 PM
RVP- one of the most frustrating players i know. Goes through most of season fit and coming up to the important time of year and he's injured. i know hes a great player when fully fit but i would get rid of him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on April 23, 2009, 11:56:24 PM
Agree about RVP.

Far too injury prone and like Sol Campbell  before him when it comes to the big matches towards the end of the season he is nowhere to be seen.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on April 24, 2009, 11:10:10 AM
Arsenal's attacking options are very good for next season with or without RVP. In the summer we need a quality center back and a defensive Midfielder. i know song hasn't had a bad season but i dont think he good enough to be at one of europes top teams.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 26, 2009, 01:46:22 PM
Arsenal players walking on egg shells for fear of injury. That's when injuries often occur. Fabregas looked fecked for a minute there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 26, 2009, 02:00:59 PM
Lucky he wasn't - he just scored. Arsenal training session. Can't believe Boro are meant to be a side fighting relegation.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 26, 2009, 03:20:29 PM
And again. Middlesbro are crap
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on April 26, 2009, 03:41:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 26, 2009, 03:20:29 PM
And again. Middlesbro are crap

So were Spurs yesterday in the second half !!!
So I have no real fear heading for Wednesday night.
If we can just hold them to a draw and then take them at the Emirates.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyronefella on April 27, 2009, 10:37:32 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on April 26, 2009, 03:41:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 26, 2009, 03:20:29 PM
And again. Middlesbro are crap

So were Spurs yesterday in the second half !!!
So I have no real fear heading for Wednesday night.
If we can just hold them to a draw and then take them at the Emirates.


silvestre is giving me nightmares for wednesday night. :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mortified on April 27, 2009, 10:41:03 PM
Quote from: tyronefella on April 27, 2009, 10:37:32 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on April 26, 2009, 03:41:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 26, 2009, 03:20:29 PM
And again. Middlesbro are crap

So were Spurs yesterday in the second half !!!
So I have no real fear heading for Wednesday night.
If we can just hold them to a draw and then take them at the Emirates.


silvestre is giving me nightmares for wednesday night. :o

still doesnt seem right having Silvestre in a gooners shirt, get rid in summer and get some world class centre-half  in
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on April 28, 2009, 12:33:24 AM
Quote from: mortified on April 27, 2009, 10:41:03 PM
Quote from: tyronefella on April 27, 2009, 10:37:32 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on April 26, 2009, 03:41:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 26, 2009, 03:20:29 PM
And again. Middlesbro are crap

So were Spurs yesterday in the second half !!!
So I have no real fear heading for Wednesday night.
If we can just hold them to a draw and then take them at the Emirates.




silvestre is giving me nightmares for wednesday night. :o

still doesnt seem right having Silvestre in a gooners shirt, get rid in summer and get some world class centre-half  in

Just have to trust Arsene on this one !!!
My view is , he 'll pack midfield with Ade up front with fingers crossed that we'll get a draw or a 1-0 defeat and then do the business at Ashburton Grove.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 28, 2009, 10:54:34 PM
No feckin defence tomorrow. Could be missing all of Clichy, Gallas, Gibbs, Sagna and Silvestre. Could end up seeing Eboue, Toure, Song and Djourou. Shiver.

On the plus side Bendtner's due a goal!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 29, 2009, 02:55:58 PM
If Arsenal somehow manage to get out OT only a goal down heading to the 2nd leg it will be a fantastic result.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 29, 2009, 03:19:29 PM
Any word of what defence they might be putting out tonight?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 29, 2009, 03:30:26 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on April 29, 2009, 03:19:29 PM
Any word of what defence they might be putting out tonight?
Think Johhny Cochrane is on the left and Niall Murphy on the right. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 29, 2009, 04:54:33 PM
Was it Vela who was quarantined due to the swine flu?

Deadly tactic to bring him on and get him to grunt and sneeze. Rio wouldn't want to know.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on April 29, 2009, 06:26:51 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 29, 2009, 04:54:33 PM
Was it Vela who was quarantined due to the swine flu?

Deadly tactic to bring him on and get him to grunt and sneeze. Rio wouldn't want to know.

Rio probably wouldn't know what he was doing....I would say that the only News he watches id Sky Sports News and probably only reads the Daily Sport.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on April 29, 2009, 06:59:50 PM
Im gonna go on a limb here and say arsenal to win the tie 4-1 on aggregate.

1 each tonight with a 3-0 spanking at the emirates.

2-1 to arsenal in the final with Thierry Henry not sniffing leather. Kolo will have him for breakfast.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hoopsaaa on April 29, 2009, 07:10:36 PM
This is the biggest match since Anfield in 89.

Cannot wait on this one ;D 1 each 2nite and 2.0 to the gunners in the second leg.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 29, 2009, 08:37:17 PM
Utd making a dick out of Gibbs on the back foot. No protection whatsoever from Diaby who is also having a shocker.

Gibbs handy going forward though and if he can find some kind of composure he can get a handy cross in. Arsenal dominated the last 10-15 mins without any penetration at all. Walcott should've lashed that last one.

Almunia to thank for still being in it after 30.

Tevez a brilliant worker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 29, 2009, 08:43:49 PM
No coincidence that those last 15 mins saw Cesc back in central midfield where he works best. He controlled it from there on in. If he stays there though Arsenal need another striker on in Eduardo. Go 4-4-2. Utd afraid of Walcott and are doubling on him. That'd free up the likes of Nasri. I'd take off Diaby who couldn't control his bladder.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 29, 2009, 09:42:01 PM
Take that, much better 2nd half performance from Arsenal, Man U couldn't sustain that tempo and intensity and fairly fell off the pace not helped that when Arsenal passed they really moved Man U around...

Toure is back to his best, Arsenals best player tonight..

Diaby is he even related to a footballer, Ade's second touch was a tackle...

Rooney is wasted on the wing, Tevez great attitude...

All to play for 2nd leg, Gibbs no offence but Arsenal need Clichy back...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 29, 2009, 09:47:28 PM
Need to win by 2 clear goals next week. I think Wenger will be happy enough. Could've been out of it after 30. If van p and clichy return it's game on. If not, that team won't do it. Gonna be a nervy night, unless utd score first.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 29, 2009, 09:52:55 PM
Arsenal only had half a defense and half a midfield. Very lucky to get away only 1 - 0 down.

That 11 won't do it next week. Clichy is desperately needed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 29, 2009, 09:53:48 PM
Think RVP is still a doubt  :(

Nice to see Almunia back as well, proved to me, and I'm sure he was worried about that, that he's more than capable at this level and still Arsenal number 1...

Penalties could be on the horizon...

Btw he gets a lot of criticism on this board for some reason but John O'Shea was very very good tonight.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 29, 2009, 10:56:07 PM
To be fair to Gibbs, he improved greatly in the second half and was getting to grips with the game. He weighed in with a few timely interceptions. I think his nerves were shot at the start of the game - understandable for a 19 yr old at Old Trafford facing Ronaldo Tevez and Rooney maurading all over the joint and a non-existent midfield for protection.

My hope is that Arsenal won't play that badly again and have some record at home in the CL. I think they're unbeaten in something like 24 home games. Goals are needed and hopefully he doesn't go 4-5-1 again. Hopefully Rio's out. Keeping a clean sheet is another matter. With Shrek, the crap Ronaldo, Dracula and Scarface about it'll be some task.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on April 29, 2009, 10:59:16 PM
QuoteToure is back to his best, Arsenals best player tonight..

I think Almunia might just have pipped him somehow...........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 29, 2009, 11:53:24 PM
Wenger Bullish!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8026039.stm
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on April 30, 2009, 12:56:34 AM
Heading over for the second leg next week!
Job has been done tonight.
Glad to see Eduardo make an appearance so hopefully he ll be about next week when we need the goals.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on April 30, 2009, 08:10:38 AM
Quote from: Gaffer on April 30, 2009, 12:56:34 AM
Heading over for the second leg next week!
Job has been done tonight.
Glad to see Eduardo make an appearance so hopefully he ll be about next week when we need the goals.



By United i take it you mean? Can you see Arsenal keeping Utd scoreless and if not scoring 3 goals? Why is Bendtner still a professional footballer?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyronefella on April 30, 2009, 11:17:14 AM
adebayor was rank last night. Great assit from silvestre for the first goal  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on April 30, 2009, 11:48:34 AM
rodney trotter is in the same bracket as pascal cygan and igor stepanovs were before their departures,he needs to go.totally totally out of his depth!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 30, 2009, 11:56:33 AM
Arsenal have got to be happy with that result last night, it could have been a lot worse.  The problem which has has been well documented is preventing utd from scoring at the Emirates with a less than convincing defence.  All to play for now though.  Walcott really has potential to be top class, great pace and skill, with a bit more composure last night he could and should have had a one on one with VDS.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenmachine on April 30, 2009, 12:05:47 PM
Bendtner makes me sick...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The GAA on April 30, 2009, 12:20:33 PM

Arsenal's lack of a ball winner in midfield really shows against top opposition. anderson, fletcher and carrick sliced through them last night until fabregas was pulled back to help out
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hitzelsperger on April 30, 2009, 12:33:22 PM
Bad performance to say the least but there is no way we can play as bad next week!

Why oh why does AW continue to play Fab just off the front man..he clearly is needed in the centre to pull the strings! I hope to god RVP is back next week!

Rodney Trotter has to go.he has had his chances and clearly ain't good enough!

Next week we have to go for it big time which will be a nightmare with a defense leaky as fcuk :-[
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 30, 2009, 02:15:10 PM
That's as good as Man U can play, Arsenal can play much better and thankfully through poor finishing, excellent goal-keeping and at times good defending as well, Arsenal are only a goal down. Arsenal will win the 2nd leg but they need to stop Man United scoring easier said than done but hopefully Clichy will be available and RVP as well. Confident Arsenal will win but maybe only 2-1.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 01, 2009, 04:44:13 PM
Eduardo out for 3 weeks! The poor fella is having a mare. Prob best wrap him up now until mid July.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on May 01, 2009, 05:44:58 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 30, 2009, 02:15:10 PM
That's as good as Man U can play, Arsenal can play much better and thankfully through poor finishing, excellent goal-keeping and at times good defending as well, Arsenal are only a goal down. Arsenal will win the 2nd leg but they need to stop Man United scoring easier said than done but hopefully Clichy will be available and RVP as well. Confident Arsenal will win but maybe only 2-1.....

I would take that even if I had no nails left at the end :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 03, 2009, 12:04:30 AM
That's what ye call a young squad. Too late for Bendtner's POTY award though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on May 03, 2009, 12:08:14 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 03, 2009, 12:04:30 AM
That's what ye call a young squad. Too late for Bendtner's POTY award though.
I would say he isnt the best player in his house.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 03, 2009, 01:18:33 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 03, 2009, 12:08:14 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 03, 2009, 12:04:30 AM
That's what ye call a young squad. Too late for Bendtner's POTY award though.
I would say he isnt the best player in his house.

He's wouldn't even be the best player in my house and theres only me my mum and my sister here!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 03, 2009, 10:20:19 AM
Bendtner's actually a better option than Adebayor at the minute. At least he's willing to try things whereas the man from Togo is having one of his strolling months.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 03, 2009, 10:23:21 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 03, 2009, 10:20:19 AM
Bendtner's actually a better option than Adebayor at the minute. At least he's willing to try things whereas the man from Togo is having one of his strolling months.

He can try all he wants he's just not good enough...He really frustrates me so much...Very arrogant player for one with a very limited talent!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 03, 2009, 10:27:25 AM
Well, for the few minutes he was on against Utd, he was the one player who actually had an attempt. That header wasn't a million miles from leaving Arsenal in a wonderful position. He can do those things - get his head on the end of a hospital ball. Fair enough, he can frustrate at times, but I've seen enough of him this year to suggest he can be of use. Wenger has played him all over the joint this year, mainly as a winger in the middle season.

If Arsenal were one up with 15 mins left on Tues and Bendtner came one, you have some hope that he'd be awkward enough to do something different.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 03, 2009, 10:35:59 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 03, 2009, 10:27:25 AM
Well, for the few minutes he was on against Utd, he was the one player who actually had an attempt. That header wasn't a million miles from leaving Arsenal in a wonderful position. He can do those things - get his head on the end of a hospital ball. Fair enough, he can frustrate at times, but I've seen enough of him this year to suggest he can be of use. Wenger has played him all over the joint this year, mainly as a winger in the middle season.

If Arsenal were one up with 15 mins left on Tues and Bendtner came one, you have some hope that he'd be awkward enough to do something different.

He really should have scored that header thats what frustrates me. The keeper was off the line with a empty goal at his mercy....The funny thing is when i slag him off he ends up scoring....Lol so i'm just going to continue.....

Hopefully i'll get a top from the match yesterday...my cousin is in the pompey first team squad and i've told him not to bother coming home in a few weeks if he doesn't bring me home a Arsenal top from that match...Knowing my luck it'll be Bendner's... :D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 03, 2009, 08:33:47 PM
Can anyone tell me how to embed videos on this site?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 03, 2009, 11:07:24 PM
Always wanted to know that too. Must be one of those hoors above the posts like:

http://[url=http://[email][ftp=ftp://[/ftp][/email]][email][ftp]][/ftp][/email]][email][ftp][/ftp][/email][/url] or something like that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 04, 2009, 10:32:09 AM
A different Arsenal

By Asser Ghozlan on Monday, May 4, 2009


I am quite frankly fed up of all the hype surrounding big games, pumping myself up for a memorable occasion, with a cacophony of similar emotions shared by family, friends, and of course the mouthy Arsenal FC crew. I don't know about you, but it is becoming rather boring, the build-up, the readiness to realise potential, the match day nerves, only to fall flat on our faces against a fellow "big team" who are in reality superior opposition.

As I mentioned last week, the Champions League semi finals were our one chance for Wenger to be vindicated in his quest for realising our undoubted potential and strength, to kill off any lingering doubts that we are a big club, but only a second-rate one. To put us back on the map right at the very top when compared to our opponents and against the other two semi-finalists.

Sadly, as I sat and grimaced through the match at Old Trafford, at least certainly for the first half-hour, the painful realisation crept in on me and must have amongst many of you passionate Gooners out there- we are probably not as good as the Manchester Uniteds and Chelseas of this world, and we have been cruelly found out! As Rooney, Ronaldo, Anderson and many others ran rings around our clueless defence and outmuscled our flimsy midfield, creating chance after chance, chances they may yet hopefully regret, many questions ran through my mind. I asked myself then, and I plead with you all to ask yourselves now, that's if you already haven't done so- when are we to finally class ourselves as ready to challenge for top honours? When can we go into a semi-final against Chelsea or Manchester United and know that we will be equal to the task?

Indeed, there is also the possibility that the first leg defeat to the European champions was a mere blip. A defeat that any team can suffer at such a late stage of the season, especially when considering it was away from home. However, we were meant to be the team in form, remember? The team ready to put paid to United's hopes of two consecutive continental crowns, and most importantly, ready to wipe out years of underachievement and criticism and nagging doubt.

But the match last Wednesday, coupled with the FA Cup defeat to Chelsea, perhaps suggested that our defeats were in no way an unfortunate coincidence.

Starting with the selection and tactics, Wenger opted to deploy Fabregas and Nasri in similar ways that had worked so effectively against Middlesbrough, with the skipper in the "hole" and the young Frenchman occupying a defensive role. To be fair, with the success that had reaped in the Premier League, you might perhaps have forgiven Wenger for sticking to the idea. Not when we are in a Champions League semi final against the world's top team I'm afraid. This was always doomed to failure, particularly in giving the defensive role to such a novice in Nasri, and sticking Diaby, a player who is usually so inept in his own real position, out on the left wing!

This was not all as far as tactical blunders ago. Wenger opted for the "experience" of Silvestre in the centre of defence alongside Touré, and, although the pair improved as the match wore on, they were given a torrid time by Rooney and Tevez in the United frontline. Not only that, Wenger finally decided to play two strikers with Bendtner's introduction on seventy-seven minutes. Hardly all the time in the world to come back in such a crucial match is it?

With the manager making such costly mistakes at such crucial moments of the season, first in dropping Arshavin and Song for the FA Cup semi final defeat, and then on Wednesday, mistakes that any lay person can pick up on, it hardly does much to endear the underachieving Wenger to the success-starved supporters and the media's vultures, does it?

With regards to the players out on the pitch, well it doesn't need a genius to come up with the conclusion that we were second best throughout the ninety minutes. With the defence an absolute and utter shambles as the match began, exactly the opposite to what is required early on a European semi final, it was no surprise when John O'Shea (O'Shea!?) thumped the ball into the roof of the net with less than an eighth of the tie gone, with Ronaldo and Anderson queuing up for the finish too incidentally, and with our defence ball-watching, all at sea!

As the match wore on, we improved, and despite having the greater possession in the second half, it was United who threatened to score again, and we failed to create one meaningful chance. Interestingly, one stat that popped up late during the match stat pointed out that we had completed 295 passes to United's 200, a stat that, if anything, highlights our lack of functionality and inability to be potent when it counts. A stat that can be thrown right in Wenger's face by any laughing rival manager, player or fan!

In attack, Adebayor's publicised mare and the midfield's profligacy contributed to our lack of a cutting edge, something that we will surely have to improve on, and with the correct personnel come Tuesday.

After the match, listening to Wenger's post-match conference, I didn't know whether to admire his fighting talk or ridicule his nonchalant attitude to the press. Sounding almost triumphant, Wenger predicted that we would see "a very different Arsenal team" next week and make United "regret their missed chances". Now, whilst it is part and parcel of the game that every manager builds his team up or else there would be no point in turning up, Wenger's chat sounded more like a man desperate to combat his stubbornness and tactical naïvety; a ploy to keep his dejected supporters on-side.

On last Wednesday's viewing, many of the mistakes highlighted will have to spot on. A two-goal victory will do, and as it is not as easy it sounds, a clean sheet will probably be required. Not the easiest of tasks against a side as free-scoring and as powerful in attack as Manchester United are, but then again, and despite our known defensive vulnerabilities, 2009 is yet to see us let in a goal against European or Premier League opposition at the Emirates, and so we will hope to be fighting tooth-and-nail for that record to continue come Tuesday night.

The players will have to be up for it, realising that it is simply now or never. Time to prove that we are indeed back on the big stage, and that we will not lie down and give up in the face of every big match. Time to justify the manager's unwavering support and confidence to the whole world, the time to prove the doubters wrong. The time has come to show that Arsenal Football Club can fight for the biggest prizes and not simply be the nearly-men when it comes to the business end of every season, prompting the media to say that "now is not their time" and the fans craving success to predict that "next year is the year".

Enough excuses, enough "next years", this has to be our year!

A different Arsenal please, Arsène! A better, stronger one.

http://arsenal-mania.com/articles/3106785/A-different-Arsenal.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 04, 2009, 03:32:20 PM
van persie and silvestre both in the squad for tomorrow night.
Think we will go with almunia
                            sanga toure djouru gibbs
                                   song denilson
                                nasri cesc walcott
                                    van p  adebayor
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on May 04, 2009, 03:40:31 PM
Quote from: ildanach on May 04, 2009, 03:32:20 PM
van persie and silvestre both in the squad for tomorrow night.
Think we will go with almunia
                            sanga toure djouru gibbs
                                   song denilson
                                nasri cesc walcott
                                    van p  adebayor

12 players...good luck to that ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 04, 2009, 03:55:00 PM
Quote from: ildanach on May 04, 2009, 03:32:20 PM
van persie and silvestre both in the squad for tomorrow night.
Think we will go with almunia
                            sanga toure djouru gibbs
                                   song denilson
                                nasri cesc walcott
                                    van p  adebayor

Song or Denilson probably won't start leaving it at 11. I really wish Clichy was there instead of Gibbs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 04, 2009, 03:58:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 04, 2009, 03:55:00 PM
Quote from: ildanach on May 04, 2009, 03:32:20 PM
van persie and silvestre both in the squad for tomorrow night.
Think we will go with almunia
                            sanga toure djouru gibbs
                                   song denilson
                                nasri cesc walcott
                                    van p  adebayor

Song or Denilson probably won't start leaving it at 11. I really wish Clichy was there instead of Gibbs.

I would even prefer to play Sagna at left back and Eboue at right..Think Gibbs is a weakness and UTD could exploit him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 04, 2009, 04:24:50 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on May 04, 2009, 03:58:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 04, 2009, 03:55:00 PM
Quote from: ildanach on May 04, 2009, 03:32:20 PM
van persie and silvestre both in the squad for tomorrow night.
Think we will go with almunia
                            sanga toure djouru gibbs
                                   song denilson
                                nasri cesc walcott
                                    van p  adebayor

Song or Denilson probably won't start leaving it at 11. I really wish Clichy was there instead of Gibbs.

I would even prefer to play Sagna at left back and Eboue at right..Think Gibbs is a weakness and UTD could exploit him.

Gibbs was actually one of our strongest links in the second half. Started poorly, but I'd blame Diaby's ineptitude for that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 04, 2009, 04:37:06 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 04, 2009, 04:24:50 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on May 04, 2009, 03:58:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 04, 2009, 03:55:00 PM
Quote from: ildanach on May 04, 2009, 03:32:20 PM
van persie and silvestre both in the squad for tomorrow night.
Think we will go with almunia
                            sanga toure djouru gibbs
                                   song denilson
                                nasri cesc walcott
                                    van p  adebayor

Song or Denilson probably won't start leaving it at 11. I really wish Clichy was there instead of Gibbs.

I would even prefer to play Sagna at left back and Eboue at right..Think Gibbs is a weakness and UTD could exploit him.

Gibbs was actually one of our strongest links in the second half. Started poorly, but I'd blame Diaby's ineptitude for that.

I think towards the end of the game the supply from the left wing didn't look too bad in comparison to Bendtner trying to give the killer pass from the right.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 04, 2009, 06:31:10 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on May 04, 2009, 03:40:31 PM
Quote from: ildanach on May 04, 2009, 03:32:20 PM
van persie and silvestre both in the squad for tomorrow night.
Think we will go with almunia
                            sanga toure djouru gibbs
                                   song denilson
                                nasri cesc walcott
                                    van p  adebayor

12 players...good luck to that ;)

worth a try!!
song and nasri will probably play the holding role
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 04, 2009, 08:11:01 PM
I don't know if he'll start Van Persie.

Not really up for this one yet - feel strangely calm about it. Arsenal need one of those days that everything goes in. Earlier in the year when Arsenal led Utd 2-0 at the Emirates, it was fairly comfortable but they could've scored more, didn't, and almost let Utd back in to it.

Arsenal need to keep Utd on the back foot from the first whistle like they did at Old Trafford. Although Adebayor doesn't deserve it, he'll start. He's due a goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on May 04, 2009, 09:45:46 PM
Heading over in the morning.
Desperate for the right result.
Too many Man U fans around here that I would have to listen to if the result went the wrong way.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 05, 2009, 11:12:55 AM
All the right noises coming from Wenger, going to be a very tight game despite Fergie's sound bites I can't see Man U pushing for an early goal, they'll look to contain Arsenal and hit on the break...

Bendtner to hit the late winner and put Arsenal through 2-0  :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The GAA on May 05, 2009, 11:49:39 AM

You've had enough of a sporting week dinny. no luck tonight. i can't see how arsenal can get through. at a stretch a 1-0 win and hrough on penalties is probably arsenal's best chance.

The arsenal team that was outplayed and frozen with fear in the first leg cannot beat united at the emerates or anywhere else.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenmachine on May 05, 2009, 11:57:04 AM
Bendtner couldn't score furniture...easily the worst stiker at any of the big clubs in the EPL and tbh I think he wouldn't even make much of an impact at a championship outfit, absolutely ket!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 05, 2009, 12:13:30 PM
QuoteThe arsenal team that was outplayed and frozen with fear in the first leg cannot beat united at the emerates or anywhere else.

Eh won 2-1 earlier in the season at the Emirates anyway tonight is about hope more than expectation..

Only Anelka, Torres and Rooney are strikers from Man U, Liverpool or Chelsea that have scored more goals than Bendtner, just because he doesn't run around like a headless chicken like Tevez or Kyut doesn't actually make him a bad player and considering he's only maybe 4th choice at Arsenal his return is quite good.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 05, 2009, 12:14:56 PM
http://www.premierleague.com/page/Headlines/0,,12306~1648400,00.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The GAA on May 05, 2009, 12:32:28 PM

He's some craic
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: YogiBear on May 05, 2009, 12:36:32 PM
Bendtner shouldn't sell himself short he ALREADY is the best striker in the world and he is on a roll after his 2 against Pompey.  Bendtner to get 2 and arsenal to win 4 - 2. Up the Gunners!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 05, 2009, 12:39:14 PM
Quote from: YogiBear on May 05, 2009, 12:36:32 PM
Bendtner shouldn't sell himself short he ALREADY is the best striker in the world and he is on a roll after his 2 against Pompey.  Bendtner to get 2 and arsenal to win 4 - 2. Up the Gunners!!!!

There would be more chance of John O'Shea scoring a hat trick
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 05, 2009, 12:42:25 PM
He should get a hat-trick tonight, a player of his quality against Vidic and Ferdinand, no contest...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenmachine on May 05, 2009, 12:52:21 PM
The quality of players around him at arsenal will help his goal tally due to the service he will receive.  He would struggle dreadfully outside of a big club due to the fact that he is shit, the same cannot be said about Anelka (Bolton), Rooney (Everton) or Torres (Atletico).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 05, 2009, 01:10:11 PM
Quote from: screenmachine on May 05, 2009, 12:52:21 PM
The quality of players around him at arsenal will help his goal tally due to the service he will receive.  He would struggle dreadfully outside of a big club due to the fact that he is shit, the same cannot be said about Anelka (Bolton), Rooney (Everton) or Torres (Atletico).

He would struggle with the Inisturk U-12 B team.

Now prove me wrong ya Danish lug.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 05, 2009, 01:37:48 PM
That's more like it! Let's get behind the Bender tonight.

Is there a song about him?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on May 05, 2009, 01:41:16 PM
'he's big, he's long, has a first touch like king kong - bendtner, bendtner'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenmachine on May 05, 2009, 01:41:41 PM
I would happily take a slaggin here tomorrow if bendtner scores the winner tonight, i would even retract my comments and put him in at least the top 5 strikers in the world bracket...'mon bendtner. :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: billy the kid on May 05, 2009, 01:55:50 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on May 05, 2009, 01:41:16 PM
'he's big, he's long, has a first touch like king kong - bendtner, bendtner'


One of the best football songs I have ever heard.  :D :D :D


Right up there with this about Celtics Nakamura;

There is only one Nakamura

He eats Chow Mein

He Votes Sinn Fein

Theres only one Nakamura
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: irunthev on May 05, 2009, 02:18:28 PM
Desperately want to see Utd knocked out and think Wenger is a superb manager, but................... there is something so frustratingly infuriating about the way Arsenal play and I can see them being mobbed by the Utd defence and midfield. Their silky passing is way too easy to break up against a packed midfield. Whichever of either Rooney or Tevez start up front along with the incredible sulk, then they will act as an extra midfielder and probably work harder than any of the other midfielders. Arsenal may well get the majority of possession but I don't think it will come to anything... although I sincerely hope it does.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 05, 2009, 06:48:01 PM
Fergie usually sticks on a few spoilers against Arsenal. Fletcher, Carrick, Anderson or Park - prob 2 from those.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 05, 2009, 07:00:00 PM
Robin van Persie starts for Arsenal. Carlos Tevez and Dimitar Berbatov are BOTH on the bench for Man United, Ji-Sung Park starts.

(BBC)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 05, 2009, 07:01:18 PM
TEAMS Arsenal v Man Utd
Arsenal: Almunia, Sagna, Fabregas, Toure, Nasri, Van Persie, Walcott, Song, Djourou, Adebayor, Gibbs. Subs to follow.
Man Utd: Van der Sar, Evra, Ferdinand, Ronaldo, Anderson, Rooney, Park, Vidic, Carrick, O'Shea, Fletcher. Subs to follow.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on May 05, 2009, 07:02:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 05, 2009, 06:48:01 PM
Fergie usually sticks on a few spoilers against Arsenal. Fletcher, Carrick, Anderson or Park - prob 2 from those.

Carrick should play for sure, I would not be surprised to see park play either. I dont rate park at all, his work rate is excellent but apart from that he is fairly average.

prediction. The Arse 2- United 2
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 05, 2009, 07:04:51 PM
5-1 Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 05, 2009, 07:51:11 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 05, 2009, 07:04:51 PM
5-1 Arsenal.

3-1.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 05, 2009, 08:04:58 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 05, 2009, 07:51:11 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 05, 2009, 07:04:51 PM
5-1 Arsenal.

3-1.

Anything else on?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on May 05, 2009, 08:05:54 PM
Muppet you may kick walk the dog.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 05, 2009, 08:06:40 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on May 05, 2009, 08:05:54 PM
Muppet you may kick walk the dog.

The dog went in the wheelie bin after the 1st goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 05, 2009, 08:07:29 PM
Not a bad oul night for gardening to be honest.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on May 05, 2009, 08:08:03 PM
O'Neill you may give us a wheen of your poetry. :-[
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on May 05, 2009, 08:08:51 PM
Does anyone else have a remote control sized hole in the wall?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 05, 2009, 08:13:30 PM
Get bendtner on. He could score 4. With two shots.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 05, 2009, 08:15:27 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 05, 2009, 08:13:30 PM
Get bendtner on. He could score 4. With two shots.

Don't you mean two chances?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 05, 2009, 08:33:26 PM
I see George Lee is running in the Dublin South by-election, wonder how he'll get on?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 05, 2009, 08:35:38 PM
Holby City is class tonight
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 05, 2009, 08:46:19 PM
Any diagnosis as to why Gibbs keeps falling over at critical times?   ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 05, 2009, 08:49:04 PM
Just opened a bottle of stout with my Michael Thomas '89 bottle opener.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 05, 2009, 08:53:12 PM
FFS Arsenal have a go at least
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 05, 2009, 08:56:49 PM
might as well bring on 2 more strikers go 3 at the back and give it a go for fucks sake
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 05, 2009, 09:03:19 PM
I believe in Bendtner.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: milltown row on May 05, 2009, 09:07:22 PM
arsenal need a clear out after that performance tonight, to think i actually bet them to win 2-1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: fred the red on May 05, 2009, 09:07:47 PM
wenger out
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 05, 2009, 09:14:19 PM
If Arsenal score I'm gonna brak every window in celebration
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 05, 2009, 09:23:19 PM
For Sale, 57000 flags, all as good as new only waved for seven minutes  :-[
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 05, 2009, 09:25:17 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 05, 2009, 09:23:19 PM
For Sale, 57000 flags, all as good as new only waved for seven minutes  :-[

:o I got that in a text at half time. They travel quick...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 05, 2009, 09:30:21 PM
ref has robbed Arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 05, 2009, 09:44:18 PM
i hope this is the final straw now and wenger realises we need to spend some money. We need to go out and spend 40 or 50 million on 2 centre backs, a keeper and a central midfielder.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 05, 2009, 09:47:37 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 05, 2009, 09:30:21 PM
ref has robbed Arsenal

:D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 05, 2009, 10:00:42 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on May 04, 2009, 03:58:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 04, 2009, 03:55:00 PM
Quote from: ildanach on May 04, 2009, 03:32:20 PM
van persie and silvestre both in the squad for tomorrow night.
Think we will go with almunia
                            sanga toure djouru gibbs
                                   song denilson
                                nasri cesc walcott
                                    van p  adebayor

Song or Denilson probably won't start leaving it at 11. I really wish Clichy was there instead of Gibbs.

What should have been the two full backs from the start.. Too much pressure on a player so young. And he was exploited which put us under pressure right from the start. Get the money out a good defender, YaYa Toure and Artur Boruc will do me...

I would even prefer to play Sagna at left back and Eboue at right..Think Gibbs is a weakness and UTD could exploit him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: highorlow on May 05, 2009, 11:08:14 PM
QuoteFor Sale, 57000 flags, all as good as new only waved for seven minutes 


Sell them to Munster Fans....................em oh ya i forgot
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on May 06, 2009, 08:14:29 AM
Arsenal ladies team would have put up a better show last night.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: irunthev on May 06, 2009, 08:38:25 AM
By selling some of the "not-quite-good-enough" talent that Wenger has nurtured he would probably be able to buy two top class performers. Add to that the £25m or so he could get for Adebayor and all of a sudden he could have a decent transfer fund. Total respect for the guy for what he is trying to do at Arsenal, but the reality is that the best players he develops are inevitably snapped up by bigger clubs who will pay them what they want and give them a huge transfer signing on fee too and the lesser players he has developed just aren't good enough.... eg hammer Wigan in the League Cup and then get embarrassed by Burnley. He does need a top keeper, he does need two centre halves and he does need two midfielders. If he sells Adebayor, which I think he should, he also needs a new striker. With good trading he could probably completely rebuild the team for a net of £10-15m. He needs more experience there and he needs more winners. His initial success was built around a defence he inherited and then around a team of players  bought who had been at big clubs too... although maybe not a success there.
The dream of self sufficiency will only ever get them fourth place.... although in itself it is a remarkable achievement.
Utd will happily pay £20m + for a player they think can make a difference regardless of age etc....... I appreciate Wenger's principles on money, but he is also in danger of seeing what he has built crumble around him with the likes of Van Persie and Fabregas leaving.
Just consider the difference that Arshavin has made since he joined..... that's what real quality players with experience can do for a team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 06, 2009, 09:18:07 AM
I have to echo Souness' sentiments and hope Almunia declares for England!  At fault for both early goals.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: YogiBear on May 06, 2009, 09:57:35 AM
Looks like Bendtners performance after match was as poor as the rest of the teams during it.  Just seen picture of him on news getting carried out of niteclub clean blocked with his head cut and trousers around his ankles, just sums up arsenal last nite.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on May 06, 2009, 10:00:31 AM
Quote from: YogiBear on May 06, 2009, 09:57:35 AM
Looks like Bendtners performance after match was as poor as the rest of the teams during it.  Just seen picture of him on news getting carried out of niteclub clean blocked with his head cut and trousers around his ankles, just sums up arsenal last nite.

Where'd you see that?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: YogiBear on May 06, 2009, 10:28:21 AM
Daily Mail - he looks like a right tool
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on May 06, 2009, 10:34:03 AM
Beat in Semi Finals of both Big cups and finishing fourth again. is this season Very dissapointing, dissapointing, average, encouraging??
im saying its dissapointing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on May 06, 2009, 10:37:33 AM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/06/article-0-04D2B940000005DC-876_224x423.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/06/article-0-04D2B95C000005DC-173_224x423.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on May 06, 2009, 10:41:28 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 06, 2009, 09:18:07 AM
I have to echo Souness' sentiments and hope Almunia declares for England!  At fault for both early goals.

i thought thats what he said . i wonder would he make the same comment on Sky i doubt it. Was there a bit of a barney between the lads on Rte after the match i missed it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenmachine on May 06, 2009, 10:43:40 AM
Quote from: Minder on May 06, 2009, 10:37:33 AM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/06/article-0-04D2B940000005DC-876_224x423.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/06/article-0-04D2B95C000005DC-173_224x423.jpg)

Brilliant!  What a clown!  He's big, he's long, he's a first touch like king kong - bendtner, bendtner...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on May 06, 2009, 11:01:06 AM
I think he plays some games with his eyes covered as per that bottom photo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyronefella on May 06, 2009, 11:17:16 AM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on May 06, 2009, 10:34:03 AM
Beat in Semi Finals of both Big cups and finishing fourth again. is this season Very dissapointing, dissapointing, average, encouraging??
im saying its dissapointing.

so dissapointed in their two performances in the semi finals. Really just showed the difference in quality between man utd and arsenal. Wenger needs to have a very busy summer bringing in some established players for a change.  :'(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2009, 11:17:28 AM
Young man loses biggest game of his career, goes out and drowns sorrows, what the f*ck is wrong with that, I'm sure we've all done it. Seriously I wonder about some of you at times.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenmachine on May 06, 2009, 11:22:13 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2009, 11:17:28 AM
Young man loses biggest game of his career, goes out and drowns sorrows, what the f*ck is wrong with that, I'm sure we've all done it. Seriously I wonder about some of you at times.

Nobody said he done anything wrong Dinny.  If I was being led from a club with a coat over my head and trousers half off, I would feel like a clown too.  Maybe its your kind of nite out?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 118cmal on May 06, 2009, 11:24:51 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2009, 11:17:28 AM
Young man loses biggest game of his career, goes out and drowns sorrows, what the f*ck is wrong with that, I'm sure we've all done it. Seriously I wonder about some of you at times.

As a professional footballer, he has some sacrifices to make.  It's an awful example to set younger players.  And what the hell is going on with his jeans???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: irunthev on May 06, 2009, 11:29:19 AM
Bendtner is a frustrating player and needs too many chances to get his goals. However, I seem to remember Adebayor being similarly wasteful when he used to deputise for Henry and now we are talking about him being worth in excess of £20m. Don't think Bendtner will ever be in that price bracket, but he would be a useful sale even now to help fund bringing in a few proper players. A lad that has scored 14 goals this season and with his self-professed "potential" has to be worth £8m in anyone's money. He reminds me very much of Neil Mellor who played for Liverpool about four years ago and is now with....... Preston North End I believe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on May 06, 2009, 11:41:04 AM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on May 06, 2009, 10:41:28 AM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on May 06, 2009, 09:18:07 AM
I have to echo Souness' sentiments and hope Almunia declares for England!  At fault for both early goals.

i thought thats what he said . i wonder would he make the same comment on Sky i doubt it. Was there a bit of a barney between the lads on Rte after the match i missed it.

Dunno, I didn't watch the post match analysis
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2009, 11:48:36 AM
Quote from: screenmachine on May 06, 2009, 11:22:13 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2009, 11:17:28 AM
Young man loses biggest game of his career, goes out and drowns sorrows, what the f*ck is wrong with that, I'm sure we've all done it. Seriously I wonder about some of you at times.

Nobody said he done anything wrong Dinny.  If I was being led from a club with a coat over my head and trousers half off, I would feel like a clown too.  Maybe its your kind of nite out?

Eh, you called him a clown!!! He's a young man, when we are young we all do foolish things, the fact that people feel the need to comment on him getting drunk and how he should be a role model is just insane.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenmachine on May 06, 2009, 12:06:29 PM
Of course he's a clown, look at the shape of the lad there.  There's nothing wrong with gettin messed up, but gettin led from a club with your trousers half off certainly makes him look like a clown in my eyes.  I didnt call him a disgrace or a bad role model, just a clown.
(http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/cinema/2636/pic-coll1/it-clown.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 06, 2009, 12:06:43 PM
Last night was probably the wake up call Wenger and the board needed. They may play the best football on the planet on their day but when it comes to the crunch in April/May you need a mix of everything - and Arsenal are seriously lacking in the leadership department. After those opening 7 mins yesterday, Wenger needed someone on the pitch who was aware of the bigger picture - having the composure and focus to keep shape and stick to the task of concentrating on defence first of all. Although Gibbs was unlucky, you don't find mistakes like that at the highest level and on the biggest stage.  Arsenal were like a bunch of greyhounds running rings around a rotweiler but when Utd decided to bite Arsenal went into their shell. The other three semi-finalists have strong characters throughout their lines. Arsenal looked exactly what they are - a bunch of kids with limited experience. Utd didn't actually play all that well. They scored two fortunate goals that killed the game and just let Arsenal have the ball knowing they'd never get through a bank of 8 players the way Arsenal play.

If you look at the team that so nearly won the CL in '06 -

Lehmann, Eboue, Toure, Campbell, Cole, Pires, Gilberto, Fabregas , Hleb, Ljungberg, Henry

that has almost the perfect mix.

Last night:

Almunia, Sagna, Toure, Djourou, Gibbs, Walcott, Fabregas, Song Billong, Nasri, Van Persie, Adebayor

and it's hard to believe they actually reached the last 4 in Europe.

Arsenal can't wait forever for these players to hit their peak as the lack of trophies means they'll be easily tempted elsewhere. It all depends what Arsene wants. He may leave the club in profit and with a bank of good young players but having won 2 doubles and three titles with the unbeaten runs he accumulates, it would be a pity way to see out his tenure as 4th best in the country.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on May 06, 2009, 12:45:51 PM
if last nite turns out to be the wake up call that wenger needed then ill gladly take the defeat to utd but in truth why has it went on this long before he has realised we arent anywhere near good enough to challenge utd and chelsea on a regular basis.you cant put the barren spell arsenal have had down to bad luck or injuries,its lack of quality and wenger has to give in to his stubborness and accept this.
i still wouldnt rule out wenger coming out in the press in the next week or 2 with a statement along the lines of "my young players are good enough,bla bla,with a little more luck and time to develop certain qualities,we will challenge for trophies,bla bla" so if this was the case he would only buy one or 2 players in the summer.he needs a clearout.
whilst the likes of song denilson diaby have improved in the last couple of years they still arent up to the standard thats required to win a major trophy.if wenger is happy to keep finishing 4th so be it,the current panel of players may be just about good enough to finish 4th next year,villa and everton are closing the gap all the time.wenger has to hold his hands up,and revamp the squad with quality signings and get rid of some of the deadwood or else its time for him to move on himself.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: irunthev on May 06, 2009, 01:01:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 06, 2009, 12:06:43 PM
Last night was probably the wake up call Wenger and the board needed. They may play the best football on the planet on their day but when it comes to the crunch in April/May you need a mix of everything - and Arsenal are seriously lacking in the leadership department. After those opening 7 mins yesterday, Wenger needed someone on the pitch who was aware of the bigger picture - having the composure and focus to keep shape and stick to the task of concentrating on defence first of all. Although Gibbs was unlucky, you don't find mistakes like that at the highest level and on the biggest stage.  Arsenal were like a bunch of greyhounds running rings around a rotweiler but when Utd decided to bite Arsenal went into their shell. The other three semi-finalists have strong characters throughout their lines. Arsenal looked exactly what they are - a bunch of kids with limited experience. Utd didn't actually play all that well. They scored two fortunate goals that killed the game and just let Arsenal have the ball knowing they'd never get through a bank of 8 players the way Arsenal play.

If you look at the team that so nearly won the CL in '06 -

Lehmann, Eboue, Toure, Campbell, Cole, Pires, Gilberto, Fabregas , Hleb, Ljungberg, Henry

that has almost the perfect mix.

Last night:

Almunia, Sagna, Toure, Djourou, Gibbs, Walcott, Fabregas, Song Billong, Nasri, Van Persie, Adebayor

and it's hard to believe they actually reached the last 4 in Europe.

Arsenal can't wait forever for these players to hit their peak as the lack of trophies means they'll be easily tempted elsewhere. It all depends what Arsene wants. He may leave the club in profit and with a bank of good young players but having won 2 doubles and three titles with the unbeaten runs he accumulates, it would be a pity way to see out his tenure as 4th best in the country.



Totally agree and unless they change their approach to transfer fees, contracts and wages they will continue to be a young inexperienced team, for as their players improve, so they will be snapped up by the biggest paying clubs in Europe. Also, if you insist on getting rid of players when they are 30 or 31 then you won't have experience. Would Fergie want to be rid of 35 year old Footballer of the Year Ryan Giggs or Scholes? With the appliance of science that Wenger implements at Arsenal surely players should be good until they are mid-30s... just look at Milan, breaking their neck to get 33 year old Beckham and already they have at east four first teamers over the age of 33. Wenger is a wonderful manager..... he now needs to reassess and I think he will.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: highorlow on May 06, 2009, 01:14:56 PM
QuoteWas there a bit of a barney between the lads on Rte after the match i missed it.

Aye the 2 buckos Dumphey and Giles had a right go at Souness.....I got the feeling they had the Gooners backed moneywise and were pissed off.

Dumphey turned to Souness and told him he didn't know what he was talking about, Souness asked Dumphey who did he manage. Dumphy in typical fashion said "i managed to stay alive for the last 63 years sunshine' or something to that effect.

Billo took an ad break and the 2 bucko's had a go at him on another issue after the break.

Charlie kept quiet all the way through though  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2009, 01:49:26 PM
Good post O'Neill.

Arsenal have the parts of a team that are difficult to find, the quality elemant shall we say. Lack the productivity elemant. A keeper, centre half or two, and a hallion in the middle of the park is all the miss. However the four signings need to be leaders.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 06, 2009, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: highorlow on May 06, 2009, 01:14:56 PM
QuoteWas there a bit of a barney between the lads on Rte after the match i missed it.

Aye the 2 buckos Dumphey and Giles had a right go at Souness.....I got the feeling they had the Gooners backed moneywise and were pissed off.

Dumphey turned to Souness and told him he didn't know what he was talking about, Souness asked Dumphey who did he manage. Dumphy in typical fashion said "i managed to stay alive for the last 63 years sunshine' or something to that effect.

Billo took an ad break and the 2 bucko's had a go at him on another issue after the break.

Charlie kept quiet all the way through though  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8P2jtn4J4M
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on May 06, 2009, 02:17:46 PM
Took it bad  :-\

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25440670-23215,00.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 06, 2009, 02:23:56 PM
Lads, you reminded me of us (Spurs) against Seville in 2007 when we gave away two early goals and lost the tie before it had really started... though mind you we eventually showed balls (unlike the Goons last night) to salvage a draw in the game at least. I almost felt sorry for Arsenal!! ;D

You are easily the weakest of the so called top four in England ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2009, 02:32:30 PM
Arsenal imho have a pretty good squad but I would move the following on

Abou Diaby - Very frustrating player would probably command between 3 - 5m
Denilson    - Limited likewise would command 3 - 5m
Mikael Silvestre - The less said
Emmanuel Adebayor - Capable of brilliance but just a lazy sh*t - should have taken the money last season, probably only worth 15m now
Emmanuel Eboue - Has talent, just a terrible attitude although has improved in that regards since been booed at the emirates - 2m - 4m.

Leaving a budget of between 23 - 29m in sales plus maybe another 20m form the board. So is 40 - 50m enough to but 2 centre backs, 2 defensive midfielders and 2 goalkeeprs? Probably not but the players Wenger should target are

GK
Boruc from Celtic
Stekelenburg from Ajax - fantastic 2 seasons ago but injuries have cost him his place this year

CB
Yobo, Lescott from Everton
Demichelis from Munich

Holding/Defensive MF
Alonso from Liverpool
Barry from Everton
Senna from Vilarreal, 32 but would bring great experience and a bit of bite
Zyryanov from Petersburg, 32 as well I think but a good holding midfielder


If Arsenal could buy any of the above or players of their ilk, they can really challenge next season, the talent is there, the energy is there, the guile just that bit of dog and experience is all that is missing.


Seriously how good would Arsenal be if they could field a team from the following squad

Boruc/Almunia
Sagna/Toure/Hoyte
Demichelis/Gallas
Lescott/Yobo
Clichy/Gibbs
Walcott/Nasri/Wilkshire
Senna/Alonso/Zyryanov
Fabregas/Barry/Song/Ramsey
Arshavin/RVP/Bendtner/Eduado/Vela

That would be the perfect blend of experience and youth imho so hopefully the defeat last night will be a watershed and Arsenal and Wenger will move on from that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on May 06, 2009, 02:44:18 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2009, 02:32:30 PM
GK
Boruc from Celtic
Stekelenburg from Ajax - fantastic 2 seasons ago but injuries have cost him his place this year

CB
Yobo, Lescott from Everton
Demichelis from Munich

Holding/Defensive MF
Alonso from Liverpool
Barry from Everton


Jaysus Dinny, why would you ever want Boruc? Wouldnt be worth a fcuk in the PL

The fat spanish waiter wouldnt sell Alonso to another top 4 club

Who is Barry from Everton? If it is him from Villa, Arsene wouldnt splash the cash for him
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2009, 02:51:08 PM
I've always like the look of Boruc, perhaps haven't seen enough of him..

He was close to selling him last year, so you never know. Yea sorry meant Barry from Villa, don't think transfer fees will be as high this summer and reckon someone like Barry will go for 6-9m.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: full back on May 06, 2009, 02:58:56 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2009, 02:51:08 PM
I've always like the look of Boruc, perhaps haven't seen enough of him..

He was close to selling him last year, so you never know. Yea sorry meant Barry from Villa, don't think transfer fees will be as high this summer and reckon someone like Barry will go for 6-9m.

Could be right there
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on May 06, 2009, 03:00:30 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on May 06, 2009, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: highorlow on May 06, 2009, 01:14:56 PM
QuoteWas there a bit of a barney between the lads on Rte after the match i missed it.

Aye the 2 buckos Dumphey and Giles had a right go at Souness.....I got the feeling they had the Gooners backed moneywise and were pissed off.

Dumphey turned to Souness and told him he didn't know what he was talking about, Souness asked Dumphey who did he manage. Dumphy in typical fashion said "i managed to stay alive for the last 63 years sunshine' or something to that effect.

Billo took an ad break and the 2 bucko's had a go at him on another issue after the break.

Charlie kept quiet all the way through though  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8P2jtn4J4M


Just watched that and it reminded me why I pay for sky... Those muppets really should not be on TV.  Not that the sky boys are great but that is just embarrassing :-\
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on May 06, 2009, 03:33:20 PM
embarassing they may be but i actually find it quite entertaining!when i watched the video on you tube there i also watched a few other ones of dunphy in action.his rant at terry venables a few years back was particularly amusing i thought!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on May 06, 2009, 04:30:42 PM
Quote from: irunthev on May 06, 2009, 11:29:19 AM
Bendtner is a frustrating player and needs too many chances to get his goals. However, I seem to remember Adebayor being similarly wasteful when he used to deputise for Henry and now we are talking about him being worth in excess of £20m. Don't think Bendtner will ever be in that price bracket, but he would be a useful sale even now to help fund bringing in a few proper players. A lad that has scored 14 goals this season and with his self-professed "potential" has to be worth £8m in anyone's money. He reminds me very much of Neil Mellor who played for Liverpool about four years ago and is now with....... Preston North End I believe.

Adebayor is a waste of space £20million is a joke....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: irunthev on May 06, 2009, 04:44:04 PM
Quote from: spiritof91and94 on May 06, 2009, 04:30:42 PM
Quote from: irunthev on May 06, 2009, 11:29:19 AM
Bendtner is a frustrating player and needs too many chances to get his goals. However, I seem to remember Adebayor being similarly wasteful when he used to deputise for Henry and now we are talking about him being worth in excess of £20m. Don't think Bendtner will ever be in that price bracket, but he would be a useful sale even now to help fund bringing in a few proper players. A lad that has scored 14 goals this season and with his self-professed "potential" has to be worth £8m in anyone's money. He reminds me very much of Neil Mellor who played for Liverpool about four years ago and is now with....... Preston North End I believe.

Adebayor is a waste of space £20million is a joke....

I think he is over-rated too but I do think that when he goes he will command a fee in that region.. weren't one of the Milan sides willing to pay £25m for him last year...... he is young enough and he scored 25 goals last season and a dozen or so this season when it has been interrupted by silly injuries. Agree though..... not good enough.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 06, 2009, 05:15:42 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 06, 2009, 10:37:33 AM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/06/article-0-04D2B940000005DC-876_224x423.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/06/article-0-04D2B95C000005DC-173_224x423.jpg)

Does the fella carrying Bendtner play? Centre half maybe?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 06, 2009, 05:34:07 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 06, 2009, 02:23:56 PM
Lads, you reminded me of us (Spurs) against Seville in 2007 when we gave away two early goals and lost the tie before it had really started... though mind you we eventually showed balls (unlike the Goons last night) to salvage a draw in the game at least. I almost felt sorry for Arsenal!! ;D

You are easily the weakest of the so called top four in England ;D

Tony spurs were the weakest of the bottom 4 in England for a long time this year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 06, 2009, 09:18:52 PM
would like to see them sign

defenders
lescot from everton
richards from man city
chygrynskiy from shaktar donetsk

toure from barca for central midfield

and a new keeper maybe that lad that utd had on loan at cardiff?

they would all cost in the region of 50m
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 07, 2009, 02:06:52 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/arsenal/5289493/Arsene-Wenger-promised-transfer-funds-for-Arsenal-squad.html

transfer funds are available according to Hill Wood. About time he proved it!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: irunthev on May 08, 2009, 01:13:15 PM
As expected Theo Walcott signed a new deal..... after being nurtured by Wenger for the past few years in the early-Henry role out wide, will we see Walcott unleashed as an out and out striker next season..... Walcott and RVP up front and flog Adebayor for £20m?? RVP has a great brain and Walcott incredible speed and both can finish. Along with the sale of a few squad players that should realise another £10-15m that would leave £35m in the bank along with whatever the board have scraped together. Surely a budget in that region will bring in three top players with decent experience?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on May 08, 2009, 01:29:02 PM
walcott aint the answer up front,definitely not.we need a big man up front with rvp,someone who can score in the air and on the deck,proven quality,not easy to find i know but thats what we need.i wouldnt be sure of the stats but walcott hasnt scored that many this season but i do appreciate he was out for 3months,still dont think hes a clinical finisher considering the positions he gets himself into with his pace,needs 3 chances for every 1 he converts.we need rid of rodney trotter and let adebayor go to fcuk,wud generate a fair wee bit of money to buy a proven striker and you would have rvp,eduardo with a full pre season behind him and vela another year experience behind him.
dont get me started on the midfield or back four or id end up writing a dissertation!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 08, 2009, 01:34:38 PM
Quote from: irunthev on May 08, 2009, 01:13:15 PM
Along with the sale of a few squad players that should realise another £10-15m that would leave £35m in the bank along with whatever the board have scraped together. Surely a budget in that region will bring in three top players with decent experience?

we need closer to 50m though. 35m buys sfa now look what utd paid for berbatov and he has been shit this season!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: irunthev on May 08, 2009, 01:36:57 PM
Quote from: Tommy Tight Lips on May 08, 2009, 01:29:02 PM
walcott aint the answer up front,definitely not.we need a big man up front with rvp,someone who can score in the air and on the deck,proven quality,not easy to find i know but thats what we need.i wouldnt be sure of the stats but walcott hasnt scored that many this season but i do appreciate he was out for 3months,still dont think hes a clinical finisher considering the positions he gets himself into with his pace,needs 3 chances for every 1 he converts.we need rid of rodney trotter and let adebayor go to fcuk,wud generate a fair wee bit of money to buy a proven striker and you would have rvp,eduardo with a full pre season behind him and vela another year experience behind him.
dont get me started on the midfield or back four or id end up writing a dissertation!!

The thing about the Arsenal players is that individually they are very good players and plenty of Premiership clubs would want them, it is just collectively they do not make a Premiership winning team. That blend of youth and experience is missing and the two most experienced players that Arsenal have Gallas and Toure have both had horrible seasons. Toure is unrecognizable from a couple of seasons ago and I can only assume that Gallas and Drogba were room mates at Chelsea.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on May 08, 2009, 01:54:16 PM
aye was reading a column on sky sports of andy grays,he reckoned they have a quite a bit of experience,despite their ages he felt adebayor,fabregas,likes of clichy were experienced,add that in with toure,gallas almunia,rvp,there is experience there.but ask yourself the question of how many of the arsenal players would get on for utd,chelsea and liverpool and a regular basis,very few!!

in fact the likes of eboue,bentner,song,diaby,denilson would certainly not get on for villa or everton and even a few others in the top ten.toure hasnt been the same since sol campbell left the club,gallas for a centre half isnt physically commanding enough,he never attacks the ball in the air or plays centre forwards in the fashion that vidic,terry or even ferdinand would.
i
n an ideal world we would get a new keeper,two defenders,two midifielders and a striker but will be very surprised if that happens.i think we really need two centre halfs,toure beside a quality one may come again but we have no cover as djourou and silvestre have showed.if we could get one commanding figure in the middle of the park wenger may feel thats enough with arshavin available,and rosicky hopefully with a pre season behind him.what about santa cruz in place of adebayor??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: irunthev on May 08, 2009, 02:30:02 PM
Quote from: Tommy Tight Lips on May 08, 2009, 01:54:16 PM
aye was reading a column on sky sports of andy grays,he reckoned they have a quite a bit of experience,despite their ages he felt adebayor,fabregas,likes of clichy were experienced,add that in with toure,gallas almunia,rvp,there is experience there.but ask yourself the question of how many of the arsenal players would get on for utd,chelsea and liverpool and a regular basis,very few!!

in fact the likes of eboue,bentner,song,diaby,denilson would certainly not get on for villa or everton and even a few others in the top ten.toure hasnt been the same since sol campbell left the club,gallas for a centre half isnt physically commanding enough,he never attacks the ball in the air or plays centre forwards in the fashion that vidic,terry or even ferdinand would.
i
n an ideal world we would get a new keeper,two defenders,two midifielders and a striker but will be very surprised if that happens.i think we really need two centre halfs,toure beside a quality one may come again but we have no cover as djourou and silvestre have showed.if we could get one commanding figure in the middle of the park wenger may feel thats enough with arshavin available,and rosicky hopefully with a pre season behind him.what about santa cruz in place of adebayor??

I have yet to be convinced by any of the South Americans that have come to the Premiership with the exception of a few of the Brazilians and Argentineans. I would be very surprised if Wenger spent £20m on a player with a reputation for sulking like Cruz. They have ability but their attitudes seem to stink. Nobby Solano is about the only exception I can think of.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2009, 04:40:44 PM
Quote from: irunthev on May 08, 2009, 02:30:02 PM
Quote from: Tommy Tight Lips on May 08, 2009, 01:54:16 PM
aye was reading a column on sky sports of andy grays,he reckoned they have a quite a bit of experience,despite their ages he felt adebayor,fabregas,likes of clichy were experienced,add that in with toure,gallas almunia,rvp,there is experience there.but ask yourself the question of how many of the arsenal players would get on for utd,chelsea and liverpool and a regular basis,very few!!

in fact the likes of eboue,bentner,song,diaby,denilson would certainly not get on for villa or everton and even a few others in the top ten.toure hasnt been the same since sol campbell left the club,gallas for a centre half isnt physically commanding enough,he never attacks the ball in the air or plays centre forwards in the fashion that vidic,terry or even ferdinand would.
i
n an ideal world we would get a new keeper,two defenders,two midifielders and a striker but will be very surprised if that happens.i think we really need two centre halfs,toure beside a quality one may come again but we have no cover as djourou and silvestre have showed.if we could get one commanding figure in the middle of the park wenger may feel thats enough with arshavin available,and rosicky hopefully with a pre season behind him.what about santa cruz in place of adebayor??

I have yet to be convinced by any of the South Americans that have come to the Premiership with the exception of a few of the Brazilians and Argentineans. I would be very surprised if Wenger spent £20m on a player with a reputation for sulking like Cruz. They have ability but their attitudes seem to stink. Nobby Solano is about the only exception I can think of.

Gustavo Poyet, Mascherano?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 08, 2009, 05:27:56 PM
Quote from: YogiBear on May 06, 2009, 10:28:21 AM
Daily Mail - he looks like a right tool
[/quotebendtner has went up in my estimation!a clown on the pitch and off it!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 08, 2009, 05:42:50 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2009, 02:32:30 PM
Arsenal imho have a pretty good squad but I would move the following on

Abou Diaby - Very frustrating player would probably command between 3 - 5m
Denilson    - Limited likewise would command 3 - 5m
Mikael Silvestre - The less said
Emmanuel Adebayor - Capable of brilliance but just a lazy sh*t - should have taken the money last season, probably only worth 15m now
Emmanuel Eboue - Has talent, just a terrible attitude although has improved in that regards since been booed at the emirates - 2m - 4m.

Leaving a budget of between 23 - 29m in sales plus maybe another 20m form the board. So is 40 - 50m enough to but 2 centre backs, 2 defensive midfielders and 2 goalkeeprs? Probably not but the players Wenger should target are

GK
Boruc from Celtic
Stekelenburg from Ajax - fantastic 2 seasons ago but injuries have cost him his place this year

CB
Yobo, Lescott from Everton
Demichelis from Munich

Holding/Defensive MF
Alonso from Liverpool
Barry from Everton
Senna from Vilarreal, 32 but would bring great experience and a bit of bite
Zyryanov from Petersburg, 32 as well I think but a good holding midfielder


If Arsenal could buy any of the above or players of their ilk, they can really challenge next season, the talent is there, the energy is there, the guile just that bit of dog and experience is all that is missing.


Seriously how good would Arsenal be if they could field a team from the following squad

Boruc/Almunia
Sagna/Toure/Hoyte
Demichelis/Gallas
Lescott/Yobo
Clichy/Gibbs
Walcott/Nasri/Wilkshire
Senna/Alonso/Zyryanov
Fabregas/Barry/Song/Ramsey
Arshavin/RVP/Bendtner/Eduado/Vela

That would be the perfect blend of experience and youth imho so hopefully the defeat last night will be a watershed and Arsenal and Wenger will move on from that.


r u serious?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: irunthev on May 08, 2009, 06:04:28 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 08, 2009, 04:40:44 PM
Quote from: irunthev on May 08, 2009, 02:30:02 PM
Quote from: Tommy Tight Lips on May 08, 2009, 01:54:16 PM
aye was reading a column on sky sports of andy grays,he reckoned they have a quite a bit of experience,despite their ages he felt adebayor,fabregas,likes of clichy were experienced,add that in with toure,gallas almunia,rvp,there is experience there.but ask yourself the question of how many of the arsenal players would get on for utd,chelsea and liverpool and a regular basis,very few!!

in fact the likes of eboue,bentner,song,diaby,denilson would certainly not get on for villa or everton and even a few others in the top ten.toure hasnt been the same since sol campbell left the club,gallas for a centre half isnt physically commanding enough,he never attacks the ball in the air or plays centre forwards in the fashion that vidic,terry or even ferdinand would.
i
n an ideal world we would get a new keeper,two defenders,two midifielders and a striker but will be very surprised if that happens.i think we really need two centre halfs,toure beside a quality one may come again but we have no cover as djourou and silvestre have showed.if we could get one commanding figure in the middle of the park wenger may feel thats enough with arshavin available,and rosicky hopefully with a pre season behind him.what about santa cruz in place of adebayor??

I have yet to be convinced by any of the South Americans that have come to the Premiership with the exception of a few of the Brazilians and Argentineans. I would be very surprised if Wenger spent £20m on a player with a reputation for sulking like Cruz. They have ability but their attitudes seem to stink. Nobby Solano is about the only exception I can think of.

Gustavo Poyet, Mascherano?

Mascherano is Argentinean... I made an exception for them and the Brazilians. Fair point on Poyet though...... there have been a heck of a lot more though that have been total flops and it is usually the clubs desperate to make a mark that sign them.... eg Birmingham, Wigan Newcastle and Blackburn. I think half these S Americans come from absolute poverty and once they get a few bob it's a case of job done and let's head back to the good weather.

I do feel that Brett Hangeland has Arsenal player written all over him and if he wants to move from Fulham then the only one of the top four who would be in for him would be Arsenal. Man U have plenty of centre halves.... Liverpool would only leave him on the bench and Chelsea are well stocked there too. Seems an intelligent and level headed guy too.... just the sort of character that Arsenal need and he also knows the Premiership. Would be perfect partner for Toure
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 08, 2009, 08:04:05 PM
Interesting to see Arsenal's reaction this Sunday. A win keeps the run going and puts a wee bit of pressure on Chelsea to hold on to 3rd. A draw and that dream's over but it'll be 22 games undefeated. A loss and it's a horrendous end to the season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: irunthev on May 08, 2009, 08:07:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 08, 2009, 08:04:05 PM
Interesting to see Arsenal's reaction this Sunday. A win keeps the run going and puts a wee bit of pressure on Chelsea to hold on to 3rd. A draw and that dream's over but it'll be 22 games undefeated. A loss and it's a horrendous end to the season.

I think it will be just as hard for Chelsea to pick themselves up. An 2-2 draw.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 08, 2009, 09:07:27 PM
Bendtner to score 2 and to celebrate by pulling his shorts down and banging his head off the crossbar repeatedly.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on May 08, 2009, 09:22:00 PM
Fairly important not to finish fourth because as this coming season top three go directly into group stages and fourth enters third qualifying round and it is an open draw.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 09, 2009, 07:54:29 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8040878.stm


Arsene more open these days.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 09, 2009, 08:12:00 AM
You really should take a lie in at the weekend O'Neill.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 09, 2009, 08:13:57 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 09, 2009, 07:54:29 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8040878.stm


Arsene more open these days.

"Bendtner has been fined by the club"

I'd say that was one dear and embarrassing night out....LoL
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 08:18:14 AM
Did you get that jersey Pat?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on May 09, 2009, 08:41:02 AM
Haven't been speaking to Marc from last week....Must just make a point to ring him later...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 09, 2009, 09:37:19 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 09, 2009, 08:12:00 AM
You really should take a lie in at the weekend O'Neill.

Impossible my good man. 2 bairns need feeding, clothed and waterbombed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 09, 2009, 09:40:29 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 09, 2009, 09:37:19 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 09, 2009, 08:12:00 AM
You really should take a lie in at the weekend O'Neill.

Impossible my good man. 2 bairns need feeding, clothed and waterbombed.

There appears to be a clutch of us in the same brigade. Most Saturday mornings, I too arise at 7-8 am, make the breakfast, change the arses, etc etc. Keep the laptop on in the kitchen, as it's one of the few times I get a chance to surf in peace while Dora, Ben 10, The Wonder Pets etc is on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on May 09, 2009, 09:44:01 AM
I always felt the Arsenal thread was getting more and more childish.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 09, 2009, 09:50:20 AM
Arshavin has the flipping flu. Thought he'd be the injection Arsenal needed on Sunday. Instead of whalloping Chelsea, will probably only draw now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 09, 2009, 12:34:06 PM
Unhappy' Arshavin attracting interest of other clubs, claims agent

Andrey Arshavin's agent claims other clubs have already shown an interest in the Russian - just three months after he joined Arsenal.

According to Russian media reports, Dennis Lachter has been quoted in the Russian press as saying some Arsenal players are jealous of Arshavin - and that he is unhappy at being played out of position.

"To put it mildly he doesn't like playing on the left. But at the moment Wenger has a problem in that zone. So until they buy a good left-winger, Andrey is going to play there.

"It's not only Barcelona (who want Arshavin]. After the game at Liverpool, where Andrey scored four goals, several teams told me they were interested in him.

"But currently he is an Arsenal player... my client is not going to leave."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on May 10, 2009, 04:57:26 PM
typical!!bossed the first half hour,could have a couple up and then two suckerpunches.the inability to defend routine set pieces costs us again and then our defence keeps backing off anelka for his goal which was a great strike.walcott has definitely proved that he isnt a proven finisher and certainly wouldnt be the answer up front.diaby having another stormer >:(.hes nowhere near good enough,the shape of him taking the chance off the foot of cesc.

heard bits of a interview/press conference wenger had during the the week.he was rambling on something along the lines of he wasnt worried because his team got to the last four in europe yet his midfield was so young and will develop,balls balls balls.im gona take an eamonn dunphy stance with this,pains me to say it but i wouldnt mind us taking a pasting today and next week against utd so that wenger might finally open his f**king eyes and go out and buy some quality!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on May 10, 2009, 05:12:45 PM
Think you're getting your wish. Fabianski looks lost out there, so do a lot of Arsenal players.
Walcott is showing everything that you worry about in pacy players out there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 10, 2009, 06:46:12 PM
Bloody hell!! Created loads of chances, not clinical enough and not lucky enough neither side looked interested and still the ref was annoying...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on May 10, 2009, 07:10:11 PM
not clinical enough,not lucky enough and nowhere near good enough!im very worried about going to old trafford next week.utd would like nothing more than to win the title whilst embarassing us with a 4 or 5nil hammering after the year the invincibles won the title at old trafford.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 10, 2009, 07:30:21 PM
The Invincibles won it at Spurs.

Even mention of the invincibles makes me weep.

Arsenal actually played well today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on May 10, 2009, 07:34:39 PM
you cant put getting beat 4-1 at home down to bad luck if uve played well.aw rite,i thought the year wiltord scored the winner at old trafford,it was a midweek game was the year of the invincibles.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 10, 2009, 07:51:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7PEAhGEIig&feature=channel_page

About 3 mins in.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 10, 2009, 07:52:05 PM
Quote from: Tommy Tight Lips on May 10, 2009, 07:34:39 PM
you cant put getting beat 4-1 at home down to bad luck if uve played well.aw rite,i thought the year wiltord scored the winner at old trafford,it was a midweek game was the year of the invincibles.

It wasn't bad luck.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on May 10, 2009, 08:16:04 PM
well how can you claim we played well when we got beat 4-1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 10, 2009, 08:41:32 PM
i see that Alisher Usmanov says we need to spend big to be the top team in the world. no shit sherlock!

As he is the major shareholder you would imagine it is in his remit to provide the funds to do so. He says that man utd had 100m of talent on the bench against us on tuesday. Hopefully that gives him a ball park figue for what he needs to provide to wenger to spend!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 10, 2009, 08:43:00 PM
An own goal, an off-side and a free- kick. Arsenal have serious defensive worries but apart from 2-3 poor performances today, arsenal played some excellent football. Could've scored 4-5. It was actually heartening seeing Arsene have 4-5 attacking players on the field got the last 20
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on May 10, 2009, 08:44:35 PM
Petit didn't play in the 'invincibles' ? Redknapp mentioned him but pretty sure he left before that campaign.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on May 10, 2009, 08:50:15 PM
the free kick highlighted our inability to defend set pieces,IMO that reflects on a team playing badly.the own goal wouldnt have happened if a)theo had bothered his balls to track back after cole and b)that clown fabianski had of stayed on his line or even had better positioning,he nearly tripped over/fell into toure whereas if he had been on his line he would have cleared toures attempt.we could have scored 4/5,we conceded 4 and easily could have conceded another 2-3 goals,that would made the scoreline 7-5.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hound on May 10, 2009, 09:12:02 PM
Arsenal werent as bad as the scoreline suggested. Could easily have got it back to 3-2 and that would have made for a helter skelter last 5/10 minutes.

I know its cliched, but they do seem to lack a bit of passion. My bet is they have more players in the first team squad who don't actually give a ballix about the club than any other team. I wouldnt have been the biggest fan of Bendtner, but in recent weeks he's made a difference because he comes on and gives a 100%, a bit of energy and enthusiasm - and he's hardly reknowned for such qualities!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gunnergael on May 10, 2009, 09:22:58 PM
I think the Gallas injury has been a massive blow.  We haven't defended without him, the long unbeaten league run built on 0-0's and 1-0's when we weren't creating alot of chances was built on a solid foundation with Gallas the rock.  For all his deficiencies as a captain he is a top class defender who sees the danger early and has good positional sense.

I see on the Arsenal website, Wenger wants one or two players but doesn't know what funds will be available.  We need a top class centre back and defensive midfielder.  Chiellini of Juventus and Yaya Toure would do just fine.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 11, 2009, 10:11:17 AM
Quote from: Tommy Tight Lips on May 10, 2009, 08:50:15 PM
the free kick highlighted our inability to defend set pieces,IMO that reflects on a team playing badly.the own goal wouldnt have happened if a)theo had bothered his balls to track back after cole and b)that clown fabianski had of stayed on his line or even had better positioning,he nearly tripped over/fell into toure whereas if he had been on his line he would have cleared toures attempt.we could have scored 4/5,we conceded 4 and easily could have conceded another 2-3 goals,that would made the scoreline 7-5.

Really? I don't remember one other Chelsea shot on goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenmachine on May 11, 2009, 10:41:03 AM
I heard them comparing Walcott to Henry at half time yesterday???  You're havin a giraffe commentator, I don't rate Theo at all, charges down the line at 100mph and then can't cross or shoot when the oppurtunity arises.  You'd be as well having Usain Bolt running down the line and just stickin his boot through the ball when he gets there, he'd be quicker than Theo and probably have better feet.
The fact that he is English means that a) Arsenal paid over the odds for him and b) We'll be fed enough shit by pundits, commentators, etc. to begin to believe that he is better than he actually is.
I think the co-commentator yesterday even said that Henry is just a totally different animal and the other man asked then does he have the potential to be as good as Henry and all your man could say was, 'Uh? Yeah if he works hard enough!'  Lets face facts he's a poor man's Aaron Lennon this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 11, 2009, 10:54:28 AM
Did you know that when Christano Ronaldo in season 2004 - 2005 only scored 9 goals in 50 appearance and many Man U supporters and neutrals didn't think he would be good enough, he was 20. Theo Walcott turned 20 2 months ago.

Thierry Henry scored one goal in his first 15 games for Arsenal and was considered a flop, patience is a virtue, Wenger might be myopic but he gets the best out of players, he's not a fool and I expect Arsenal to be challenging next seaon. He's hardly going to declare to the market place what or who he's going to buy, is he?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyronefella on May 12, 2009, 11:24:29 AM
See a few people saying they should but yaya toure, cant see him even being intertested in going to arsenal at the minute!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 12, 2009, 11:33:17 PM
Tell me it's not:

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6635/ars0910awaykitnike.jpg
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tommy Tight Lips on May 12, 2009, 11:40:17 PM
aye its not the best sure its not!!fairly plain and simple but not great.wud maybe does as a 3rd kit or even a goalies jersey!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on May 13, 2009, 01:05:36 AM
Not much different to what we have already !!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 13, 2009, 08:15:27 AM
Not that bad reminds me of the old 94/94 away jersey

(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g122/blackmans/-1994-95homeaway.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 13, 2009, 09:58:00 AM


It looks like an official statement not a rumour!!
So hopefully something will come of it.

from  the daily telegraph

Alisher Usmanov, Arsenal's second-largest shareholder, has offered to pay off a significant chunk of the club's £318 million debt to create fresh transfer funds for Arsene Wenger.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/arsenal/5314550/Alisher-Usmanov-offers-to-pay-off-chunk-of-Arsenals-debt.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 16, 2009, 09:55:50 AM
Ok Arsenal, wade into these mercenaries. Rocket up Arshavin's hole and let him rip. Bendtner to make a tube out of Vidic and Gibbs to cross for 3 assists. 1-5.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on May 16, 2009, 12:29:47 PM
Adebeyor giving out stick about arsenal fans on FF :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 16, 2009, 01:13:31 PM
Arsenal pissing all over them....but everyone hiding when it's time to shoot or a cross comes in. Sums season up. Will prob concede.

http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch3.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 16, 2009, 01:39:24 PM
60% possession at HT but barely a shot on goal. Badly needed someone like Eduardo on, hanging off Vidic's shoulder. Maybe Vela or Walcott could do that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 16, 2009, 02:06:31 PM
Arsenal rotating the yellow cards brilliantly.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 18, 2009, 04:03:50 PM
By allowing the talk of real madrid stay in the publin domain this time. i think it is wengers way of ensuring a proper transfer fund this time. Every other year he would distance himself immediately. I dont acutually think he would go but i do feel he is giving the board a polite ultimatium!
Sell adebayor for £15 million and get another 30 to 40 from the board adn we can challenge next year for honours
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: longball on May 18, 2009, 05:00:28 PM
Quote from: ildanach on May 18, 2009, 04:03:50 PM
By allowing the talk of real madrid stay in the publin domain this time. i think it is wengers way of ensuring a proper transfer fund this time. Every other year he would distance himself immediately. I dont acutually think he would go but i do feel he is giving the board a polite ultimatium!
Sell adebayor for £15 million and get another 30 to 40 from the board adn we can challenge next year for honours

who would you buy?
Have a notion that Martins ofa Newcastle could be on his way to the Gooners
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on May 18, 2009, 05:06:16 PM
Quote from: ildanach on May 18, 2009, 04:03:50 PM
By allowing the talk of real madrid stay in the publin domain this time. i think it is wengers way of ensuring a proper transfer fund this time. Every other year he would distance himself immediately. I dont acutually think he would go but i do feel he is giving the board a polite ultimatium!
Sell adebayor for £15 million and get another 30 to 40 from the board adn we can challenge next year for honours

Yeah cause Wenger has previously went mad with money, it's just not his style.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 18, 2009, 08:35:18 PM
i think this time he has realised that not spending money however admirable has not worked. you can see it in recent comments he has made. He spend 16m on arshavin in january and that looks like a promising signing. perhaps the catalyst he needed!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 18, 2009, 08:38:52 PM
Quote from: longball on May 18, 2009, 05:00:28 PM
[who would you buy?
Have a notion that Martins ofa Newcastle could be on his way to the Gooners

lescot ( everton)
richards (man city)
chygrynskiy (shaktar donetsk)
at the back

take appiah on a free as hes a free agent and another tackling central midfielder

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyronefella on May 19, 2009, 11:34:57 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 18, 2009, 05:06:16 PM
Quote from: ildanach on May 18, 2009, 04:03:50 PM
By allowing the talk of real madrid stay in the publin domain this time. i think it is wengers way of ensuring a proper transfer fund this time. Every other year he would distance himself immediately. I dont acutually think he would go but i do feel he is giving the board a polite ultimatium!
Sell adebayor for £15 million and get another 30 to 40 from the board adn we can challenge next year for honours

Yeah cause Wenger has previously went mad with money, it's just not his style.

2001 -

franics jeffers £8 million
richard wirght £6 million  :D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 19, 2009, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: tyronefella on May 19, 2009, 11:34:57 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on May 18, 2009, 05:06:16 PM
Quote from: ildanach on May 18, 2009, 04:03:50 PM
By allowing the talk of real madrid stay in the publin domain this time. i think it is wengers way of ensuring a proper transfer fund this time. Every other year he would distance himself immediately. I dont acutually think he would go but i do feel he is giving the board a polite ultimatium!
Sell adebayor for £15 million and get another 30 to 40 from the board adn we can challenge next year for honours

Yeah cause Wenger has previously went mad with money, it's just not his style.

2001 -

franics jeffers £8 million
richard wirght £6 million  :D :D

That was back in the days before Mickey Harte won the Booker prize.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 20, 2009, 11:38:07 AM

talk of wenger leaving a definate non starter

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/0520/arsenal.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2009, 12:11:18 AM
Shove it up yer hole Brown:

Cesc cleared: FA rule Arsenal skipper has no case to answer in 'spitting' row

Cesc Fabregas has been cleared by the Football Association of all charges in relation to the spitting row with Hull City.

FA officials wanted to delay the announcement until Hull had contested Sunday's relegation clash with Manchester United. But Sportsmail can reveal that Arsenal captain Fabregas has escaped punishment after being hit with two charges of improper conduct in the wake of the controversial events that concluded the FA Cup quarter-final tie between the sides at the Emirates Stadium.

Hull manager Phil Brown publicly accused Fabregas of spitting at his assistant Brian Horton, while the FA also charged the Spaniard over 'his behaviour in coming on to the pitch after the final whistle'. Fabregas missed the game because of injury but stormed on to the field in what was seen by Hull as an overly aggressive manner. The spitting incident was alleged to have taken place in the tunnel soon afterwards.

The FA received statements from Brown, Horton, fitness coach Sean Rush and a number of Hull players as well as video evidence.
Cleared: Fabregas has escaped punishment

But, after Fabregas declined to appear at a hearing, the FA's disciplinary body reviewed the evidence and concluded he had no case to answer.

Hull are sure to be furious. The FA will no doubt argue that a lack of conclusive evidence left them to make an impossible choice between the conflicting statements of Hull and Arsenal.

But Hull will no doubt feel that their evidence has simply been dismissed, with the possibility of a fine for Brown - he, too, was charged with improper conduct for remarks about referee Mike Riley - adding insult to injury.

Fabregas has, however, consistently denied spitting at Horton, saying: 'I have never done this (spit) in my whole career, so why would I when I am not even playing?' Brown saw things differently. He said: 'We really just want the truth to come out.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1186213/EXCLUSIVE-Cesc-cleared--FA-rule-Arsenal-skipper-case-answer-spitting-row.html?ITO=1490
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on May 22, 2009, 10:07:34 AM
if i didnt hate shearer so much id hope that p***k and hull would go down! Hopefully Boro Win and they  both lose and i can kill 2 birds with the one stone!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 26, 2009, 09:20:50 PM
2-1 up at the minute in the second leg of the FA Youth final and 6-2 on aggregate over Liverpool.

That's next year's Premiership in the bag.

http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch3.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyronefella on May 27, 2009, 11:53:55 PM
wel at least it was good to see a few ex arsenal players winning the european cup. Silvinho still looks classy player. its a pity wenger put his faith on cashly cole all those years ago. ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 27, 2009, 11:56:42 PM
I heard Ian Wright on earlier saying he didn't want to see Henry lift it as it meant he had to leave to win it.

I thought it was great to see him win the CL. Silvinho too. Less so Hleb, though he looked a bit pissed off he wasn't even on the bench.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 11:57:43 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 26, 2009, 09:20:50 PM
2-1 up at the minute in the second leg of the FA Youth final and 6-2 on aggregate over Liverpool.

That's next year's Premiership in the bag.

http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch3.html

Saw the first leg, they look a super team. The striker is so clever.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on May 28, 2009, 12:37:30 AM
Watched the match in a bar in Dungannon tonight.

Nice to see the Man u ones whinging and weeping.

They thought theres no one like them!!!!

They thought wrong !!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 28, 2009, 12:42:31 AM
Can't believe I forgot the 20-year commemoration of Mickey Thomas's goal on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on June 13, 2009, 02:44:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvyxpdX7WRw&feature=fvw


Wengers glasses are sooooo funny



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on June 17, 2009, 01:43:24 PM
who makes the fixure list up?
How could we get 3 games like that in a row?
January
30 Man Utd (H)
February
6 Chelsea (A)
9 Liverpool (H)

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on June 17, 2009, 09:30:17 PM
Arsenals 50 greatest players, Jimmy Carter just missed out i believe.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/arsenal/article6503542.ece
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2009, 09:32:56 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 17, 2009, 09:30:17 PM
Arsenals 50 greatest players, Jimmy Carter just missed out i believe.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/arsenal/article6503542.ece

At least he got the nobel peace prize instead.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on June 17, 2009, 09:35:16 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2009, 09:32:56 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 17, 2009, 09:30:17 PM
Arsenals 50 greatest players, Jimmy Carter just missed out i believe.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/arsenal/article6503542.ece

At least he got the nobel peace prize instead.

That Jimmy Carter was probably a better player
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on June 19, 2009, 04:50:22 PM
Belgian international defender Thomas Vermaelen has joined from ajax
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on June 21, 2009, 03:32:15 PM
Quote from: ildanach on June 19, 2009, 04:50:22 PM
Belgian international defender Thomas Vermaelen has joined from ajax

A tribute to Vermaelen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfo6LZa3NsA&feature=related) with music by Captain Van Der Kennedy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 06, 2009, 02:07:51 PM
Any of you Goons hear any rumours about Rosicky's absence?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyronefella on July 09, 2009, 02:25:39 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 06, 2009, 02:07:51 PM
Any of you Goons hear any rumours about Rosicky's absence?

what is the rumour?

arsenal have been very quiet in the tranfer front .
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 09, 2009, 03:17:03 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 06, 2009, 02:07:51 PM
Any of you Goons hear any rumours about Rosicky's absence?

What's this? He was training on Monday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 09, 2009, 05:46:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 09, 2009, 03:17:03 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 06, 2009, 02:07:51 PM
Any of you Goons hear any rumours about Rosicky's absence?

What's this? He was training on Monday.

There was a net whisper of Rosicky's absence being NOT injured related last season. Prob the usual net rubbish.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 09, 2009, 06:49:10 PM
Quote from: ildanach on June 19, 2009, 04:50:22 PM
Belgian international defender Thomas Vermaelen has joined from ajax

any you boys seen him play?hadnt heard much of him before!will he be able tighten up your defence?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 10, 2009, 03:58:10 PM
Adebayor's brochure - believed it for a second

http://www.oleole.com/blogs/arseblog/posts/exclusive-adebayor039s-michael-owen-style-brochure
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on July 10, 2009, 05:49:58 PM
His strike rate for Arsenal's not too bad all the same.

A goal every 2 games is not too bad!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on July 12, 2009, 03:22:15 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on July 10, 2009, 05:49:58 PM
His strike rate for Arsenal's not too bad all the same.

A goal every 2 games is not too bad!

Incredible, given that he only bothers trying 1 game in every 3.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 13, 2009, 12:46:36 PM
City must have seen the brochure then. In talks now with Arsenal now Adebayor.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 13, 2009, 01:24:27 PM
Great opportunity to get an overpriced offer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 13, 2009, 01:31:07 PM
Yeah, hopefully no truth in it as don't want Adebayor at City. Already have Santa Cruz as the target man and he's not in the same league as other City targets Eto'o and Luis Fabiano.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gunnergael on July 13, 2009, 02:07:11 PM
Surely Arsenal could squeeze more than £20 million out of City for Adebayor.  In fairness I would take hand and all of the Sheikhs at this stage after the way he played last season.  The beat on the street is that Marouane Chamakh is lined up to come in from Bordeaux.  Would prefer to use some of the funds to sign Felipe Melo from Udinese to add some steel to midfield. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 14, 2009, 10:25:33 AM
Vieira to Spurs??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 14, 2009, 02:17:51 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1199522/Emmanuel-Adebayor-fee-agreed-Manchester-City-continue-summer-spending-Arsenal-accept-25m-Togo-striker.html?ITO=1490

Hopefully Wenger has someone in mind when it comes to accepting 25m.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on July 14, 2009, 04:50:17 PM
good bit of business if it goes through. bought him for 7m sell him for 25m
Bordeaux striker Marouane Chamakh has a 7m ger out clause in his contract so leaving 18m to buy a defensive midfielder.

might be a chance of landing richards or dunne from city if they sigh terry as there could be foundations of relationship between us if this deal goes through ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 14, 2009, 05:50:23 PM
Adebayor having a meeting in Manchester tomorrow morning about a work permit. Seems the deal is almost done. Good business by Arsenal in selling him, for City it doesnt matter what they paid as they are going to be taken to the cleaners for every transfer now but can still well afford it.

Won't be much of a relationship between City and Arsenal. Wenger was one of the first ones to start slabbering about City's wealth, since then it's been Benitez, Ferguson and Redknapp. Although Wenger has since admitted that City could be a force this next few seasons, whereas the others havent. Brian Marwood is working for City now though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 15, 2009, 01:12:25 AM
Quote
Home  Sport
ARSENAL FANS HOLD PRAYER VIGIL FOR ADEBAYOR MOVE       
ARSENAL fans staged a candlelight vigil at the Emirates stadium last night praying that Manchester City's bid for Emmanuel Adebayor is successful.


Is God listening to Arsenal?
Candles were lit in front of a hastily erected shrine depicting the striker in a taxi heading up the M6, while others released white doves clutching ceremonial transfer cheques.

Adebayor fell out of favour with Arsenal fans after sitting in a deckchair and reading a book on the halfway line during a Champion's League match.

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger said: "City are keen to sign Ade, as well as the tea lady and a really nasty painting of Ray Parlour in the board room.

"I offered them a brace of cheap Ivory Coastians and as many Frenchmen as they could fit in their van. The next thing I heard was the 'beep-beep' of a forklift backing up with all the money."

City will pay by the hundred-weight for the players, with Wenger offloading whatever leftovers are hanging around the changing room, and Tomas Rosicky.

He added: "I've completely forgotten what we originally bought him for. Does he clean the bogs?"

City are expected to field a 1-1-8 formation with Adebayor playing in the inside-wide-right-secondary-holding striker position until someone explains to Mark Hughes what midfield is.

Wayne Hayes, secretary of the Arsenal Supporters' Club, said: "Arsene brought us success, beautiful football and the glorious Thierry Henry. But if the Adebayor deal falls through, I swear I'll rip his c**k out through his nose."

Meanwhile, as Chelsea captain John Terry ponders a move to Man City, his agent said: "John's a winner which means we'll need enough money so he can buy a solid gold Aston Martin and then pretend he won it by playing football."
 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 15, 2009, 01:17:36 AM
Such an unpopular player especially with Gooners, up there with Eboue.

Personally I think if they can get Eduardo fit, it will be like a new player, a deadly finisher who could form a a lethal partnership with RVP.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on July 15, 2009, 01:25:35 AM
http://goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/07/14/1382414/tomas-rosicky-included-in-arsenal-pre-season-squad  (http://goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/07/14/1382414/tomas-rosicky-included-in-arsenal-pre-season-squad)

Tomas Rosicky Included In Arsenal Pre-Season Squad
The Czech dynamo could make his long-awaited return sooner than we thought...

Arsenal have released - via their official website - a probable squad list for Saturday's annual pre-season friendly match against Barnet. The most notable of the inclusions being one Tomas Rosicky.

It comes as a surprise that the crocked midfielder could be making a return to the first team in light of his recent admission that it might take until the turn of the year until a full recovery is made.

And while Arsenal.com have made it clear that nobody is guaranteed a place at this point, the official squad list is expected to be released by the website on Friday.

Partnering Rosicky in the shock return department, Phillipe Senderos has found his name on the shortlist, despite rumours linking the Swiss defender with a move elsewhere.

A full list of the players available is as follows: Almunia, Rosicky, Eduardo, Clichy, Mannone, Gallas, Djourou, Wilshere, Nasri, Denilson, Silvestre, Arshavin, Traore, Senderos and Vermaelen.

Noticable absentees from the list would include Theo Walcott and Kieran Gibbs, both players on extended leave due to their international duties, while Emmanuel Adebayor seems set to make the switch to Manchester City.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: centre 3/4s on July 15, 2009, 11:57:44 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on July 15, 2009, 01:17:36 AM
Such an unpopular player especially with Gooners, up there with Eboue.

Personally I think if they can get Eduardo fit, it will be like a new player, a deadly finisher who could form a a lethal partnership with RVP.




will be great to see the back of him, must be the laziest player to ever play football, missed as many as he scored... 25m is some offer Hughes is taking some chance with this nob!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on July 15, 2009, 03:15:36 PM
Kick-off times confirmed for ESPN fixtures

Today the Premier League have confirmed that the matches being shown on ESPN have had the kick off time amended from 5.15pm to 5.30pm.

Everton v Arsenal
Goodison Park
Saturday 15th August 2009, Kick Off will now be 5.30pm
Live on ESPN

Fulham v Arsenal
Craven Cottage
Saturday 26th September 2009, Kick Off will now be 5.30pm
Live on ESPN

Wolverhampton Wanderers v Arsenal
Molineux Stadium
Saturday 7th November 2009, Kick off will now be 5.30pm



How/Where do you get this channel. Haven't seen any advertisements or anything asking people to subscribe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 15, 2009, 03:21:14 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on July 15, 2009, 03:15:36 PM
Kick-off times confirmed for ESPN fixtures

Today the Premier League have confirmed that the matches being shown on ESPN have had the kick off time amended from 5.15pm to 5.30pm.

Everton v Arsenal
Goodison Park
Saturday 15th August 2009, Kick Off will now be 5.30pm
Live on ESPN

Fulham v Arsenal
Craven Cottage
Saturday 26th September 2009, Kick Off will now be 5.30pm
Live on ESPN

Wolverhampton Wanderers v Arsenal
Molineux Stadium
Saturday 7th November 2009, Kick off will now be 5.30pm



How/Where do you get this channel. Haven't seen any advertisements or anything asking people to subscribe.

On freeview it has just automatically replaced Setanta. I don't subscribe so I don't know how you'd go about it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyronefella on July 18, 2009, 07:10:38 PM
well adebayor is away now, for his record at arsenal he got some abuse! im getting very concern about how quiet they have been in the transfer market huntlaar would be a good siging. wat u lads think?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: StGallsGAA on July 18, 2009, 10:12:12 PM
Quotewell adebayor is away now, for his record at arsenal he got some abuse! im getting very concern about how quiet they have been in the transfer market huntlaar would be a good siging. wat u lads think?

I think it's quite obvious Arsenal have no money.  The £25M for Adebayor should help tho
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: centre 3/4s on July 19, 2009, 11:29:20 AM
Great to see the back of that whore
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 19, 2009, 11:37:00 AM
Quote from: centre 3/4s on July 19, 2009, 11:29:20 AM
Great to see the back of that whore

Bit harsh, wasn't great last season but had a fantastic season the year before, personally I wasn't his biggest fan, very wasteful and slowed up the play too much. African footballers are a strange fish, very selfish and rarely see the bigger picture glad he's gone to be honest, 18m is a nice profit but as St Galls points out the goons have no money so Wenger won't be spending..

Now I off to put a big wad on the genius that is Bendtner to be top scorer 2009/10  8)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 19, 2009, 08:24:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 19, 2009, 11:37:00 AM
Quote from: centre 3/4s on July 19, 2009, 11:29:20 AM
Great to see the back of that whore

Bit harsh, wasn't great last season but had a fantastic season the year before, personally I wasn't his biggest fan, very wasteful and slowed up the play too much. African footballers are a strange fish, very selfish and rarely see the bigger picture glad he's gone to be honest, 18m is a nice profit but as St Galls points out the goons have no money so Wenger won't be spending..

Now I off to put a big wad on the genius that is Bendtner to be top scorer 2009/10  8)


Why is that? Drogba can be the same, and it feels like something that is common among the Africans. Hopefully people do not interpret this in a negative way, but you'd imagine that the African mind set would be more industrious and appreciative of their standing, especially when you consider their base line.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 19, 2009, 08:36:20 PM
Don't know socio-economic I suppose and what drives their ambition, Kanu, Drogab, Adebayor, Fortune, Diouf etc all seem driven by money but you have players like Toure, Essien you seem to have more personal ambition than the size of their bank balance so probably shouldn't taint them all but still...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 20, 2009, 10:13:30 AM
QUOTE OF THE DAY: Emmanuel Adebayor suffers a logic bypass justifying his move to Manchester City: "People who think that I have joined City for the money are wrong. If I had made a move for that reason then I would have been playing for Barcelona or Milan last season. They gave me bigger offers than Arsenal did for me to stay."

Eurosport
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 21, 2009, 01:50:50 PM
Nasri reported to have broken his leg in pre-season training.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyronefella on July 21, 2009, 02:13:46 PM
typical
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 21, 2009, 02:38:01 PM
And so it begins  >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 21, 2009, 04:14:11 PM
What are Wenger's players made of?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on July 21, 2009, 04:29:25 PM

Sugar and spice?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on July 21, 2009, 07:06:25 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on July 21, 2009, 01:50:50 PM
Nasri reported to have broken his leg in pre-season training.

Hes out for 2-3 mths according to teletext...Then he will have to start as if pre season again...typical season not even started and were picking up injuries already...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on July 21, 2009, 08:19:32 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 19, 2009, 08:36:20 PM
Don't know socio-economic I suppose and what drives their ambition, Kanu, Drogab, Adebayor, Fortune, Diouf etc all seem driven by money but you have players like Toure, Essien you seem to have more personal ambition than the size of their bank balance so probably shouldn't taint them all but still...

IMHO Anelka would be the first player on that particular team sheet, possibly followed by Shearer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 21, 2009, 11:04:02 PM
Quote from: muppet on July 21, 2009, 08:19:32 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 19, 2009, 08:36:20 PM
Don't know socio-economic I suppose and what drives their ambition, Kanu, Drogab, Adebayor, Fortune, Diouf etc all seem driven by money but you have players like Toure, Essien you seem to have more personal ambition than the size of their bank balance so probably shouldn't taint them all but still...

IMHO Anelka would be the first player on that particular team sheet, possibly followed by Shearer.

I know the point you're making muppet, but you could never fault Shearer's efforts and work rate.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 22, 2009, 02:54:35 PM
7-1 run out yesterday.

    * Bendtner 36, 44,
    * Ramsey 39, 83,
    * Van Persie 56 (pen), 73,
    * Gallas 77

Nicklas Bendtner, Robin van Persie and Aaron Ramsey scored two apiece as Arsenal kicked off their mini-European tour with a comfortable victory over SC Columbia.

Arsène Wenger's side did suffer a minor embarrassment when a freakish goal from Patrick Lehner gave the amateurs a shock first-half lead.

That delighted a record crowd of 6,900 at the Schwarzlackenau Stadium but it merely stung Arsenal into action. Bendtner equalised within a minute and grabbed another after Ramsey had fired the visitors ahead.

Van Persie slotted home a penalty early in the second half and nodded in Bacary Sagna's cross to make it five. William Gallas got in on the act before the end and Ramsey fired in late on to round off another useful workout.

In truth this was a straightforward assignment against vastly inferior opponents. But Wenger's men will slowly crank up the intensity as they put the building blocks in place for the new campaign. Their next stop is just across the border in Hungary for Monday's friendly at Szombathelyi.

The build-up to this game was dominated by the news that Samir Nasri will be out for up to three months after fracturing his right fibula in training. It is a substantial blow to Arsenal even if the return of Tomas Rosicky will compensate for his loss.

The Czech was rested for this game after making his long-awaited comeback at Barnet on Saturday but we did get a first glimpse of Emmanuel Eboue, Denilson, Abou Diaby, Ramsey and Bendtner this summer. They made the starting line-up while Kolo Toure, Bacary Sagna, Van Persie and Alex Song were named on the bench. Armand Traore and Philippe Senderos, back from season-long loan spells, were also among the substitutes.

The biggest name on the SC Columbia teamsheet was their 44-year-old free-kick specialist Julius Simon - although he would not get a chance to show off his party trick on this occasion. The Slovakia international scored 10 times last season as his team finished halfway up the Austrian Fourth Division.

The amateurs from the Floridsdorf district of Vienna weren't expected to trouble their illustrious visitors but that didn't stop the locals packing out the Schwarzlackenau Stadium – with the help of a small but boisterous Arsenal contingent. Beer and music were in plentiful supply as a festival atmosphere kicked in well before kick-off.

As expected the game was played almost exclusively in the Austrians' half but Arsenal's radar was off in the first half-hour or so.

Andrey Arshavin slotted wide after two minutes, Bendtner followed suit shortly afterwards, Ramsey also missed the target from just outside the box and Thomas Vermaelen squandered a decent chance for his first Arsenal goal, lashing a shot wide after Ramsey's clever chip had fallen for him eight yards out.

Meanwhile, Gerhard Taschwer earned his corn in the Columbia goal. The keeper pushed away Diaby's fierce shot at his near post and denied the Frenchman again when he tried his luck from long range.

Despite the pedestrian pace of what was essentially a training exercise, it seemed a matter of time before Arsenal broke the deadlock. Then Columbia raised the biggest cheer of the evening with a goal completely against the run of play.

It was a farcical one from Arsenal's perspective. Mikael Silvestre played the ball back to Almunia but the Spaniard's first touch was slightly heavy. As Lehner slid in, Almunia's attempted clearance ricocheted off the striker and into the net.

Suitably embarrassed, Arsenal were stung into action. Within a minute they were level as Diaby charged down the right channel and squared the ball for Bendtner to tap into the roof of the net.

The scoreline soon had a more predictable look to it. Within three minutes of the Dane's equaliser, Ramsey evaded a challenge on the edge of the Columbia box and slammed a shot into the bottom corner.

Four minutes later, Bendtner doubled his own tally. Running from deep, the striker flicked the ball to Ramsey and then collected the return pass inside the box before jinking past Taschwer and rolling the ball into the net.

It was a sign that Arsenal could pick up the pace at will.

Wenger made eight changes at the break with Senderos deployed in a defensive midfield role – quite possibly a first for the Swiss. And two of those substitutes linked up for Arsenal's fourth goal as Traore's cross was handled and Van Persie fired home from the spot.

The Dutchman so nearly set up a fifth for Denilson on the hour mark but, once again, Taschwer did well, rushing out to block the Brazilian's low shot.

Wilshere and Ramsey returned to the fray with 20 minutes to go as Arshavin and Eboue were given a breather. Regardless of their personnel, Arsenal kept the scoreboard ticking over.

First Van Persie buried a header from Sagna's right-wing cross and Gallas did likewise with 14 minutes remaining. Then Ramsey rounded things off with a fizzing shot which flew in off the post.

http://www.arsenal.com/match-menu/171602/first-team/-v-arsenal?tab=report

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on July 22, 2009, 05:01:05 PM
Being honest if arsenal want to challenge for trophies this year they need a center defender center midfielder and a big stiker. Any rumours going around about signing's??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 27, 2009, 06:40:06 PM
http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch4.html

2-0 up so far, Bender and Eduardo
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on July 27, 2009, 09:42:23 PM
Probably one of the worst penalties I've ever seen....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Fch5XLkPU&feature=channel_page
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyronefella on July 28, 2009, 03:53:14 PM
looks like toure is going to city as well. this season is going to be a disastor.... :-\
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 29, 2009, 11:37:45 AM
Toure agrees 4 year deal with City, subject to completing a medical.

£15 million not bad for a purchase of £150,000. Read earlier that Arsenal have made £83 million profit from 5 players who wanted away from the club. Not bad work.

Eboue could be next to go.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 29, 2009, 11:47:08 AM
Is the money his though?

The property crash seems to have hit the Highbury development badly.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: JohnDenver on July 29, 2009, 11:49:35 AM
Wouldn't have minded seeing the dunney monster coming the other way in exhange.  Do you reckon he's part of Sparky's plans Archie?

Arsenal need an old school centre half, talk of Hangeland coming in.  Gallas could throw the dummy out at any stage of the season.

Mark Hughes must think he's playing football manager the way he just keeps buying players.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 29, 2009, 12:03:35 PM
As far as I know, Dunne is part of Hughes plans and Dunne has no intention of going. This will be his 10th season at City as well so would be good to see him stay on and get a testimonial which he deserves. He also might benefit from not being team captain and can concentrate on football again as he plays well for Ireland as doesn't have burden of being the captain. Only downside for Ireland is that he might not be playing regularly and will need him playing well for World Cup Qualifers.

Hangelaand will cost £15million, don't think Wenger will spend that much saying as he spent £10 million on a defender already.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 29, 2009, 06:19:37 PM
http://www.iraqgoals.net/game1189.html

1-0 up. Class Cesc goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: irunthev on July 30, 2009, 10:42:00 AM
With the sale of Adebayor and Toure and the possible sale of Eboue, could it be that Wenger has lost faith with his African contingent, given that in a  season as critical as this for the club, they will all probably be away for two months at the African Cup. Great business although its a pity to  see Toure go as he seemed like a class act, but at the same time, the team needs a new look in several positions and as has been stated by other Gallas and Toure were not a convincing partnership.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 30, 2009, 10:45:34 AM
Quote from: irunthev on July 30, 2009, 10:42:00 AM
With the sale of Adebayor and Toure and the possible sale of Eboue, could it be that Wenger has lost faith with his African contingent, given that in a  season as critical as this for the club, they will all probably be away for two months at the African Cup. Great business although its a pity to  see Toure go as he seemed like a class act, but at the same time, the team needs a new look in several positions and as has been stated by other Gallas and Toure were not a convincing partnership.

If he can use the cash to bring into another defender and a wrecking midfielder it'll be money well earned. The defence still needs work, but a forward foursome of Vela, Eduardo, RVP and Bentdner (And is Arshavin a forward?) is good enough..... IMHO.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyronefella on July 30, 2009, 10:47:07 AM
Latest rumor is veiara is on his way back to arsenal!!! wat use think of that good or bad move??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on July 30, 2009, 10:50:07 AM
I think Arsenal did well the past week or so, they got rid of Adebayor who is a mercenary and they already have one of - if not - the best strike forces in the league (Van Persie, Arshavin, Eduardo, Nasri, Rosicky, Bendt..ok).
Toure always seemed to think he was bigger than the club a bit like Gallas I suppose.  Really think Arsenal will give it a good crack this year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: irunthev on July 30, 2009, 01:22:33 PM
Quote from: tyronefella on July 30, 2009, 10:47:07 AM
Latest rumor is veiara is on his way back to arsenal!!! wat use think of that good or bad move??

Viera on a one year deal would be an excellent signing for Arsenal, if a little unlike Wenger. He would be able to step in to big games and bring a bit of experience and steel to the side. If you got 30 games in the whole season out of Viera it could be the difference between 4th and 5th.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 30, 2009, 01:33:17 PM
Wenger says he won't be spending any of the £40 million from City as he feels his squad is still strong enough though if need be will have £ there to spend.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 01, 2009, 04:28:03 PM
Rosicky starts first game at The Emirates for 16 months. Some craic if he gets injured again Hasn't had much luck this past few years.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on August 01, 2009, 05:24:15 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on August 01, 2009, 04:28:03 PM
Rosicky starts first game at The Emirates for 16 months. Some craic if he gets injured again Hasn't had much luck this past few years.

hes playing great...some of the players (eboue) arent on the same wavelength!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: corn02 on August 01, 2009, 10:02:21 PM
Tje linesman decided not to play offside in the second half.

Wiltshire looks a potential star.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 02, 2009, 12:21:38 AM
In all fairness yiz only have one world class player and I can see Man City coming in 4th......SPEND SOME MONEY! oh fabregas as well but thats it. When wenger spends money he does well full stop
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on August 02, 2009, 08:46:32 AM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 02, 2009, 12:21:38 AM
In all fairness yiz only have one world class player and I can see Man City coming in 4th......SPEND SOME MONEY! oh fabregas as well but thats it. When wenger spends money he does well full stop


World class players? Asharvin, Fabregas, Rosicky, Van Persie, Walcott, Sagna, are all world class and the rest are pretty good too...If city are coming 4th which of Manu u, Chelsea or Liverpool are 5th then...Liverpool haven't really strenghtened and will lose Alonso
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on August 02, 2009, 12:00:27 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on August 02, 2009, 08:46:32 AM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 02, 2009, 12:21:38 AM
In all fairness yiz only have one world class player and I can see Man City coming in 4th......SPEND SOME MONEY! oh fabregas as well but thats it. When wenger spends money he does well full stop


World class players? Asharvin, Fabregas, Rosicky, Van Persie, Walcott, Sagna, are all world class and the rest are pretty good too...If city are coming 4th which of Manu u, Chelsea or Liverpool are 5th then...Liverpool haven't really strenghtened and will lose Alonso

Walcott world-class ? LOL

Citeh won't overtake Arsenal this season, not with that Hughes at the helm.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: corn02 on August 02, 2009, 12:29:13 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on August 02, 2009, 08:46:32 AM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 02, 2009, 12:21:38 AM
In all fairness yiz only have one world class player and I can see Man City coming in 4th......SPEND SOME MONEY! oh fabregas as well but thats it. When wenger spends money he does well full stop


World class players? Asharvin, Fabregas, Rosicky, Van Persie, Walcott, Sagna, are all world class and the rest are pretty good too...If city are coming 4th which of Manu u, Chelsea or Liverpool are 5th then...Liverpool haven't really strenghtened and will lose Alonso

Come off it Pat.

Fabregas and at a stretch Van Persie. Naming Walcott is laughable.

Gerrard, Reina and Torres are Liverpool's world class players.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on August 02, 2009, 12:33:06 PM
...and Alonso.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: corn02 on August 02, 2009, 12:46:08 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 02, 2009, 12:33:06 PM
...and Alonso.

Probably, but only because very few can play that role at present.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 02, 2009, 11:01:24 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 02, 2009, 12:46:08 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 02, 2009, 12:33:06 PM
...and Alonso.

Probably, but only because very few can play that role at present.
For liverpool or the whole world?!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on August 02, 2009, 11:12:35 PM
How good is Wiltshire, looked immense today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mortified on August 03, 2009, 01:09:02 PM
Wiltshire looks quality, hopefully will get more games this season and avoid injury. impressed yesterday
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on August 03, 2009, 01:12:39 PM
Outside chance of him being included in England WC squad i think.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 03, 2009, 01:34:57 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 03, 2009, 01:12:39 PM
Outside chance of him being included in England WC squad i think.
Lampard, gerrard, barry, carrick, hargreaves, parker even....don't hold your breath.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on August 06, 2009, 11:26:03 AM
Arsenal forward Andrey Arshavin is being mocked by his Gunners team-mates who say his accent sounds like the meerkat featured on the Compare the Market television advert. (The Sun)  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: irunthev on August 06, 2009, 12:17:01 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 02, 2009, 12:00:27 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on August 02, 2009, 08:46:32 AM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 02, 2009, 12:21:38 AM
In all fairness yiz only have one world class player and I can see Man City coming in 4th......SPEND SOME MONEY! oh fabregas as well but thats it. When wenger spends money he does well full stop


World class players? Asharvin, Fabregas, Rosicky, Van Persie, Walcott, Sagna, are all world class and the rest are pretty good too...If city are coming 4th which of Manu u, Chelsea or Liverpool are 5th then...Liverpool haven't really strenghtened and will lose Alonso

Walcott world-class ? LOL

Citeh won't overtake Arsenal this season, not with that Hughes at the helm.

Would have to agree with DtM. Walcott has potential but isn't word class, neither rs Rosicky. Wenger often leaves it late in the day to buy, but he has the cash now to buy at least one very good player and one with potential. Getting Viera back too would secure 4th this term. City under Hughes won't manage it. He has too many egos up there now and once the novelty of all the cash wears off on the players, he will struggle to keep a few of them interested.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 06, 2009, 11:16:34 PM
Rosicky injured again. Hurt his hamstring in training. Could be out for 6 weeks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/8188609.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/8188609.stm)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on August 07, 2009, 11:30:57 AM
Need to beat the Celts or we're in for some stick !!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on August 07, 2009, 06:35:56 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 02, 2009, 12:29:13 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on August 02, 2009, 08:46:32 AM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 02, 2009, 12:21:38 AM
In all fairness yiz only have one world class player and I can see Man City coming in 4th......SPEND SOME MONEY! oh fabregas as well but thats it. When wenger spends money he does well full stop


World class players? Asharvin, Fabregas, Rosicky, Van Persie, Walcott, Sagna, are all world class and the rest are pretty good too...If city are coming 4th which of Manu u, Chelsea or Liverpool are 5th then...Liverpool haven't really strenghtened and will lose Alonso

Come off it Pat.

Fabregas and at a stretch Van Persie. Naming Walcott is laughable.

Gerrard, Reina and Torres are Liverpool's world class players.




Reina's not even the spanish no 1!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 07, 2009, 11:59:45 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on August 06, 2009, 11:16:34 PM
Rosicky injured again. Hurt his hamstring in training. Could be out for 6 weeks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/8188609.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/8188609.stm)
Rosicky injured? Shock horror!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on August 08, 2009, 12:52:47 AM
Darren Anderton MK II
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on August 08, 2009, 02:18:01 AM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 08, 2009, 12:52:47 AM
Darren Anderton MK II

More like Mickey Owen !!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on August 08, 2009, 10:47:23 AM
Tickets for home match v  the Celts on sale next Wednesday to Red members.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on August 08, 2009, 10:56:06 AM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 07, 2009, 11:59:45 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on August 06, 2009, 11:16:34 PM
Rosicky injured again. Hurt his hamstring in training. Could be out for 6 weeks.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/8188609.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/8188609.stm)
Rosicky injured? Shock horror!

Dont believe everything you hear in the Sun!! They hate Arsenal and were the only paper to carry that story.......Go straight to the source...


http://www.arsenal.com/news/injury-news
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on August 08, 2009, 10:58:07 AM
Is Wenger going to start with RVP and Eduardo up front this season ?

The latter will be like a new player for Arsenal, bit like Essien at Chelsea, two excellent players who will make their respective teams stronger.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 04:37:23 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on August 08, 2009, 10:58:07 AM
Is Wenger going to start with RVP and Eduardo up front this season ?

The latter will be like a new player for Arsenal, bit like Essien at Chelsea, two excellent players who will make their respective teams stronger.
I wouldve thought it would be bentdner and Eduardo with rvp wide left?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on August 08, 2009, 04:55:17 PM
And where's Asharvin going to play then?

No RVP and Eduardo up front with Asharvin on the left and Walcott on the right. Cesc and AN Other in the middle, Clichy Vermallen Gallsa and Sagna, Almunia in nets..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 05:00:57 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on August 08, 2009, 04:55:17 PM
And where's Asharvin going to play then?

No RVP and Eduardo up front with Asharvin on the left and Walcott on the right. Cesc and AN Other in the middle, Clichy Vermallen Gallsa and Sagna, Almunia in nets..
actually yeah sorry that's a lot better can't leave out your finest player since Henry....is it time to give Wiltshire a run beside fabregas? if not it has to be diaby.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 05:08:54 PM
Quote from: tyronefella on August 08, 2009, 05:07:26 PM
Alumina
almunia
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on August 08, 2009, 05:23:22 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 05:00:57 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on August 08, 2009, 04:55:17 PM
And where's Asharvin going to play then?

No RVP and Eduardo up front with Asharvin on the left and Walcott on the right. Cesc and AN Other in the middle, Clichy Vermallen Gallsa and Sagna, Almunia in nets..
actually yeah sorry that's a lot better can't leave out your finest player since Henry....is it time to give Wiltshire a run beside fabregas? if not it has to be diaby.

Think he may be a bit young yet...Maybe play a few games but not against celtic at PH..Hopefully Vieira would be great to teach Ramsey, Wiltshire, Denilson Song and Diaby
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 05:26:49 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on August 08, 2009, 05:23:22 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 05:00:57 PM


Think he may be a bit young yet...Maybe play a few games but not against celtic at PH..Hopefully Vieira would be great to teach Ramsey, Wiltshire, Denilson Song and Diaby
I cant wait to see your midfield In 5 years it could as good as madrids, aand with British homegrown talent!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 689908 on August 08, 2009, 05:30:27 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 05:26:49 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on August 08, 2009, 05:23:22 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 05:00:57 PM


Think he may be a bit young yet...Maybe play a few games but not against celtic at PH..Hopefully Vieira would be great to teach Ramsey, Wiltshire, Denilson Song and Diaby
I cant wait to see your midfield In 5 years it could as good as madrids, aand with British homegrown talent!

They said that about Arsenal five years ago. 

A Walcott-Wilshire-Fabregas-Arshavin midfield would get over-run IMO.  I'd say Song, Denilson or Diaby will partner Fabregas
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 05:36:59 PM
But Wiltshire fabregas and Ramsey are all future international captains and Walcott could show his true potential the season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 689908 on August 08, 2009, 05:39:33 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 05:36:59 PM
But Wiltshire fabregas and Ramsey are all future international captains and Walcott could show his true potential the season

How do you know this?

Are you mystic meg? :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 05:40:43 PM
Quote from: 689908 on August 08, 2009, 05:39:33 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 05:36:59 PM
But Wiltshire fabregas and Ramsey are all future international captains and Walcott could show his true potential the season

How do you know this?

Are you mystic meg? :D
Mystic Meg ain't got nothin on me......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 689908 on August 08, 2009, 05:44:02 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 05:40:43 PM
Quote from: 689908 on August 08, 2009, 05:39:33 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 05:36:59 PM
But Wiltshire fabregas and Ramsey are all future international captains and Walcott could show his true potential the season

How do you know this?

Are you mystic meg? :D
Mystic Meg ain't got nothin on me......

I'd say not.  Anyway getting back to the point, even if they were all to be future captains (highly unlikely), their midfield could still be over-run.  All three players are two similar.  I think Ramsey and Wilshire will be groomed for the Fabregas role.  I think it's inevitable he will move on in the next couple of years.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: 689908 on August 08, 2009, 05:44:02 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 05:40:43 PM
Quote from: 689908 on August 08, 2009, 05:39:33 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 05:36:59 PM
But Wiltshire fabregas and Ramsey are all future international captains and Walcott could show his true potential the season

How do you know this?

Are you mystic meg? :D
Mystic Meg ain't got nothin on me......
highly unlikely my arse Wiltshire and Ramsey have been captains of their respective countries since they were 15! Ramsey played a very impressive amount of games for his age and Wiltshire probably the best player in the reserves league
anyway I'm a chelsea fan I don't like arsenal but I knw quality when I see it

I'd say not.  Anyway getting back to the point, even if they were all to be future captains (highly unlikely), their midfield could still be over-run.  All three players are two similar.  I think Ramsey and Wilshire will be groomed for the Fabregas role.  I think it's inevitable he will move on in the next couple of years.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 08, 2009, 10:16:35 PM
Arsenal looking very dodgy defensively. http://www.atdhe.net/8345/watch--valencia-vs-arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 08, 2009, 10:34:01 PM
Went down 2-0. Arsenal looked jaded.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 689908 on August 08, 2009, 11:39:37 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 08, 2009, 10:34:01 PM
Went down 2-0. Arsenal looked jaded.

And the season hasn't even started  :D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 08, 2009, 11:50:24 PM
Sunbed jaded.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 10, 2009, 12:47:48 AM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/article6789124.ece

The top 10 teams of the last 25 years.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: irunthev on August 11, 2009, 01:30:07 PM
You gotta say that this is a classy guy.... great player and very intelligent.... fits the Wenger mould lovely.

http://www.skysports.com/video/clips/0,23791,12602_5484700,00.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyronefella on August 12, 2009, 10:57:25 AM
what line up would you people like to see against everton?
i would go with
                Alumina
Clicy     Gallas        Vermealen     Sagna
                 Song
      Denilson     Fabregas   Ramsey
RVP            Eduardo               Arshavin

Very week looking in midfield though.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: downtown on August 12, 2009, 11:15:49 AM
Quote from: tyronefella on August 12, 2009, 10:57:25 AM
what line up would you people like to see against everton?
i would go with
                Alumina
Clicy     Gallas        Vermealen     Sagna
                 Song
      Denilson     Fabregas   Ramsey
RVP            Eduardo               Arshavin

Very week looking in midfield though.....

Im afraid thats def not gona be the line V everton as you can only play 11 players!!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 12, 2009, 11:39:53 AM
You'd still have to be worried about the midfield. Maybe the new CB will shore that area up and if all the strikers stay fit, they'll do some damage. However, what if Fabregas gets injured? Some nice ball playing midfielders but no invisible walls or Doohers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hectorsheroes on August 12, 2009, 11:54:20 AM
We still need to make signings BIG time - we are a tiny team - we'll get pummelled from corners etc. Need a Hangeland but I be really worried when Wenger says we have a good squad - we don't!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: irunthev on August 12, 2009, 12:39:21 PM


Quote from: hectorsheroes on August 12, 2009, 11:54:20 AM
We still need to make signings BIG time - we are a tiny team - we'll get pummelled from corners etc. Need a Hangeland but I be really worried when Wenger says we have a good squad - we don't!!

Be patient... I think there will be two significant signings before the widnow closes..... Wenger often leaves it late.... look at the Arshavin scenario.... even the day after the window was closed they still didn't know if he had signed or not. Agree, need a few muck-savages in there just to give them that edge. They don't have a great squad, they have an attractive squad in terms of ability, but no more than that... it's a long way from great.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyronefella on August 12, 2009, 02:07:12 PM
Quote from: downtown on August 12, 2009, 11:15:49 AM
Quote from: tyronefella on August 12, 2009, 10:57:25 AM
what line up would you people like to see against everton?
i would go with
                Alumina
Clicy     Gallas        Vermealen     Sagna
                 Song
      Denilson     Fabregas   Ramsey
RVP            Eduardo               Arshavin

Very week looking in midfield though.....

Im afraid thats def not gona be the line V everton as you can only play 11 players!!  ;)

whoops ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 12, 2009, 03:06:19 PM
Anybody wishing to get a ticket for the Arsenal/Celtic game at the Emirates - the Red Membership selection is available now - plenty of tickets left behind the goals.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: lfdown2 on August 12, 2009, 04:49:13 PM
lads hopefully getting my hands on tickets for the arsenal celtic match, would ye wear a celtic scarf in the arsenal home end?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on August 12, 2009, 05:15:28 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on August 12, 2009, 04:49:13 PM
lads hopefully getting my hands on tickets for the arsenal celtic match, would ye wear a celtic scarf in the arsenal home end?

Risky one I would say.  Anytime I ve been at the Emirates I ve never seen away supporters in anywhere other than the away section.

Just bought 2 for the Emirates game. Its fast approaching sell out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 12, 2009, 05:27:07 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on August 12, 2009, 04:49:13 PM
lads hopefully getting my hands on tickets for the arsenal celtic match, would ye wear a celtic scarf in the arsenal home end?

dodgy one. I was told this week about a couple of Liverpool fans who were thrown out of the home section at Arsenal 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 12, 2009, 05:29:02 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 12, 2009, 05:15:28 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on August 12, 2009, 04:49:13 PM
lads hopefully getting my hands on tickets for the arsenal celtic match, would ye wear a celtic scarf in the arsenal home end?


Just bought 2 for the Emirates game. Its fast approaching sell out.

Are you staying up overnight or booking accomodation?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on August 12, 2009, 05:34:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 12, 2009, 05:29:02 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 12, 2009, 05:15:28 PM
Quote from: lfdown2 on August 12, 2009, 04:49:13 PM
lads hopefully getting my hands on tickets for the arsenal celtic match, would ye wear a celtic scarf in the arsenal home end?


Just bought 2 for the Emirates game. Its fast approaching sell out.

Are you staying up overnight or booking accomodation?






Gonna book somewhere in  Russell Square
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 12, 2009, 07:38:27 PM
The last time they met - a friendly in 2003 - finished 1-1

Celtic:-
Hedman (Marshall 74), Balde (Laursen 63), Mjallby (Varga 45), Crainey (Valgaeren 63, Sylla, McNamara (Agathe 45), Lennon, Petrov (Lambert 63), Smith (Petta 45), Miller (Wallace 74), Maloney (Beatie 64).
Substitutes: Kennedy, Prunty

Goal:- Miller 57.

Arsenal:-
Lehman, Lauren, Cole (Clichy 78), Toure (Cygan 57), Campbell, Pennant (Kanu 46), Parlour, Silva (van Bronckhorst 46), Ljumgberg (Viera 57), Jeffers, Aliadiere (Edu 46).
Substitutes: Taylor, Senderos

Goal:- Kanu 70.

Hard to believe that Arsenal's only link to then is the boul Senderos!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 12, 2009, 07:40:49 PM
And Clichy sorry.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on August 12, 2009, 07:44:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 12, 2009, 07:40:49 PM
And Clichy sorry.

Wenger and Paddy Rice as well  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 12, 2009, 07:53:36 PM
Pat Rice also scored in their previous friendly in 1977 as did Malcom MacDonald, who was sent home after it for going on the rip.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Nailed On on August 12, 2009, 09:14:36 PM
Cowboy Bob banned.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 14, 2009, 05:24:46 PM
Good interview with the voyeur here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1206377/ARSENE-WENGER-INTERVIEW-The-transcript-Martin-Samuels-fascinating-meeting-Arsenal-manager--I.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1206377/ARSENE-WENGER-INTERVIEW-The-transcript-Martin-Samuels-fascinating-meeting-Arsenal-manager--I.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2009, 06:15:00 PM
2-0 up.

The new CB having a blinder
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 15, 2009, 06:17:26 PM
3-0 now, another free header from Gallas.

Good to see the ginger one getting a hiding.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: downtown on August 15, 2009, 06:24:24 PM
is there anywhere you can watch these games online?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 15, 2009, 06:31:20 PM
http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=45161&part=sports (http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=45161&part=sports)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: downtown on August 15, 2009, 06:35:07 PM
thanks archie, wat do i click on on that site??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 15, 2009, 06:35:47 PM
http://hq-soccer.blogspot.com/2009/08/stream-2_15.html (http://hq-soccer.blogspot.com/2009/08/stream-2_15.html)

just in from work not sure what qty like
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 15, 2009, 06:46:42 PM
4 up, a great start to the season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 15, 2009, 06:53:02 PM
Four, and f**king Arshavin not involved in any of them.

FFF.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2009, 06:53:43 PM
That's the title in the bag.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 15, 2009, 07:02:24 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 15, 2009, 06:53:43 PM
That's the title in the bag.

That's your other team. This one will come 2nd.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on August 15, 2009, 07:06:26 PM
Quote from: downtown on August 15, 2009, 06:24:24 PM
is there anywhere you can watch these games online?

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sat15.8/Everton_Arsenal.html

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 15, 2009, 07:06:47 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 15, 2009, 06:53:43 PM
That's the title in the bag.

it is now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 15, 2009, 07:07:44 PM
http://www.hostream.net/channel-3.html (http://www.hostream.net/channel-3.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 15, 2009, 07:12:55 PM
Superb performance from Arsenal. Everton are rubbish though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 15, 2009, 07:21:41 PM
Wonder what Celtic are thinking?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on August 15, 2009, 07:25:37 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 15, 2009, 07:21:41 PM
Wonder what Celtic are thinking?

Oh Sh1t probably !!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2009, 07:30:37 PM
1-6
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on August 15, 2009, 07:32:21 PM
Any of you Gooners heading to Parkhead?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on August 15, 2009, 07:44:43 PM
Was gonna go with lads from the Celtic club but couldn't keep my mouth shut if (when) Arsenal score so gave it a miss.....If they play like tonite they will rip Celtic to shreds!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 15, 2009, 09:09:00 PM
QuoteIf they play like tonite they will rip Celtic to shreds

While Arsenal are undoubtedly favourites I think that should read:

If they are allowed to play like tonight and if Celtic play as badly and with as little heart as Everton they will rip Celtic to shreds....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on August 15, 2009, 09:13:43 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 15, 2009, 09:09:00 PM
QuoteIf they play like tonite they will rip Celtic to shreds

While Arsenal are undoubtedly favourites I think that should read:

If they are allowed to play like tonight and if Celtic play as badly and with as little heart as Everton they will rip Celtic to shreds....
[/quote

Agree. Everton played like Donegal did against Cork
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 17, 2009, 10:57:16 PM
Fabregas, Denilson and Sagna all doubts for tomorrow. Walcott definitely out. Changes things a little if all are out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 18, 2009, 09:38:40 AM
Would take 1-1, if Arsenal score an away goal can't not seeing them going through, think Sagna is the only real doubt I hope.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 18, 2009, 05:30:53 PM
Up The Arse.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 18, 2009, 06:57:53 PM
Where is the game on? I need Arshavin to score a hat-trick!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 18, 2009, 07:01:42 PM
Gunners full strength I'm hearing. Eduardo on bench.

TV3
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 18, 2009, 07:19:58 PM
Arsenal same as for Everton game. Celtic drop O'Dea, Fortune and McDonald and bring in Loovens, Brown and Samaras.

Can you get TV3 on freview in Belfast? Chipped NTL has messed up so cant get Sky Sports  :(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on August 18, 2009, 07:20:49 PM
Arsenal from Arsenal.com

   
      Manuel Almunia
      Bacary Sagna
      Thomas Vermaelen
      William Gallas
      Gael Clichy
      Denilson
      Alex Song
      Cesc Fabregas
      Andrey Arshavin
      Robin Van Persie
      Nicklas Bendtner
   
* Substitutes
    *

      Vito Mannone
    *

      Abou Diaby
    *

      Eduardo
    *

      Aaron Ramsey
    *

      Mikael Silvestre
    *

      Emmanuel Eboue
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on August 18, 2009, 07:40:39 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on August 18, 2009, 07:19:58 PM
Arsenal same as for Everton game. Celtic drop O'Dea, Fortune and McDonald and bring in Loovens, Brown and Samaras.

Can you get TV3 on freview in Belfast? Chipped NTL has messed up so cant get Sky Sports  :(

Bad move dropping McDonald, he was instrumental in a lot of Celtics success in the opener, very cool customer and they will miss that against the arsenal. Celtic will do well to get the draw but I think Arsenal will win 3-1.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 18, 2009, 09:55:48 PM
comfortable win. only one scarey moment. should progress now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 18, 2009, 10:29:06 PM
Fabregas took som abus tonight.

Very poor game in general. Arsenal rarely troubled but still think they need a few more players to progress.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 19, 2009, 12:42:41 AM
That was very comfortable. Twas a bit of a kickabout. Celtic harried plenty but never gave Almunia anything to think about. The likes of Blackburn, Bolton, Hull would've.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 19, 2009, 01:11:56 AM
Wenger on Celtic - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/8208605.stm
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 19, 2009, 01:19:25 AM
Mowbray - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/8208623.stm
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: irunthev on August 19, 2009, 08:42:43 AM
It was an intense match in that the pace hardly dropped all the way through. For all of Celtic's possession they didn't actually manage a shot on goal the whole game and while I appreciate that both of Arsenal's goals were lucky, they just seemed so much more in control. While you could argue that they may not have deserved to win that match 2-0, by the same token, they never looked like losing it. Vermalen looks the part, although it must be added he hasn't really been tested in his first two games, but looks like an excellent long term prospect, while Gallas, just can't stop scoring at the moment. That should help him keep his toys in the pram for a week or two at least.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 19, 2009, 09:22:37 AM
It was intense in that Celtic harried all day but they never threatened whatsoever. They just crowded the defence and attempted to have a few races between Sagna, Clichy, Maloney and McGeady. The Arsenal full backs were well able for them. I thought Celtic's passing was awful at times. Although McGeady was Celtic's most danderous player, he wouldn't cut it at the top level in England. Runs into cul-de-sacs and doesn't really know what he's going to do with it. Apart from the crowd, you wouldn't have known who was at home as Celtic's attack was non-existent and they just concentrated on crowding out Arshavin and Van Persie. As Celtic tired they just resorted to small-time fouling which was fair enough.

Song played well in midfield and Vermaelen steady. Offensively Arsenal were below par but I thought it was a fairly comfortable game for this time of the season in Europe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on August 19, 2009, 09:48:54 AM
Vermaelen is some player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerrykeegan on August 19, 2009, 10:06:13 AM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on August 18, 2009, 07:19:58 PM
Arsenal same as for Everton game. Celtic drop O'Dea, Fortune and McDonald and bring in Loovens, Brown and Samaras.

Can you get TV3 on freview in Belfast? Chipped NTL has messed up so cant get Sky Sports  :(

Tv3 is a joke, Trevor Welch last night, "Arshavins get free and is taken down, thats a bad tackle, sorry it was Robin VanPersie", 30 seconds later Lauro pipes up "I think Trevor that was Fabregas"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 19, 2009, 12:53:50 PM
Bodes well for arsenal that they can beat the 2nd best team in Scotland 2-0 without exerting themselves at all.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 19, 2009, 12:57:49 PM
Rumours in Spain suggesting that Arsenal and Barcelona have agreed a deal for Fabregas to join Barcelona next summer for £25-£30 million. If it's true, surely he's worth more than that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on August 19, 2009, 01:22:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 19, 2009, 09:22:37 AM
Although McGeady was Celtic's most danderous player, he wouldn't cut it at the top level in England. Runs into cul-de-sacs and doesn't really know what he's going to do with it.
Is this what passes for football analysis these days in the brand sky epl threads? ;D
Running into a cul de sac, means he reaches a dead end and is either dispossessed or cant find a  team player.
Neither of which happened to McGeady. He retained possession well when running deep into Arsenal packed defense or when receiving a rare decent pass. He rarely lost his ball and his passing success rate in the 2nd half was about 95%.
Considering how far off his teammates were from his wavelength, that's no mean achievement.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 19, 2009, 01:26:47 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 19, 2009, 01:22:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 19, 2009, 09:22:37 AM
Although McGeady was Celtic's most danderous player, he wouldn't cut it at the top level in England. Runs into cul-de-sacs and doesn't really know what he's going to do with it.
Is this what passes for football analysis these days in the brand sky epl threads? ;D
Running into a cul de sac, means he reaches a dead end and is either dispossessed or cant find a  team player.
Neither of which happened to McGeady. He retained possession well when running deep into Arsenal packed defense or when receiving a rare decent pass. He rarely lost his ball and his passing success rate in the 2nd half was about 95%.
Considering how far off his teammates were from his wavelength, that's no mean achievement.

I think you'd need to watch it again. Time and time again, McGeady would have an option to pass to a player in a better position. Instead he'd run with the ball, Arsenal would crowd him out and he'd simply play the ball back to where he started with the Arsenal defence in position.

I also think you'd need to read up on cul de sacs. Just incase you drive into one, you can get out so don't abandon the car young man.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 118cmal on August 19, 2009, 01:29:08 PM
McGeady is very much overrated.  Too selfish.  He'll never make it at a big club.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on August 19, 2009, 01:29:42 PM
I agree with O'Neill about McGeady. I think he's just like a child in a schoolyard. It can be refreshing to see someone like that, but it's pretty hard to dribble past the top defenders and defensive teams. It's rare that a lad will only have to beat one man before doing something, because there'll be cover. McGeady just has the head down, runs and runs until he either a) scores, b) passes it off or c) loses it. Against Aberdeen and Dundee United he might do a and b a lot, but against top teams, it's frequently c.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on August 19, 2009, 01:53:39 PM
Still sounds like lazy rehashed armchair hyped cliches with no relation to last nights efforts by McGeady.

Taking too much out of the ball was an old failing, taking on too many defenders was also an old failing. He has changed his game and that reflected in much of his intelligent play last night.
He did not try to dribble through lost causes, did not get dispossessed and his distribution was very good.
Weakest point is is his crosses, can be sublime but mostly sub par.





















Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on August 19, 2009, 02:34:20 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 19, 2009, 01:53:39 PM
Still sounds like lazy rehashed armchair hyped cliches with no relation to last nights efforts by McGeady.

Taking too much out of the ball was an old failing, taking on too many defenders was also an old failing. He has changed his game and that reflected in much of his intelligent play last night.
He did not try to dribble through lost causes, did not get dispossessed and his distribution was very good.
Weakest point is is his crosses, can be sublime but mostly sub par.

Have to disagree Main Street. Several times last night I saw him dribbling around in what could be loosely called 'circles' before either getting dispossessed or just passing it backwards.

He does have talent with the ball at his feet, but I think he still overdoes it, and would be better served beating one man and quickly looking for the pass or cross. Make the ball do the work. Looking at him, to me, it looks like he himself doesn't have a clear plan and tries to run to daylight with the ball.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 19, 2009, 02:43:41 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 19, 2009, 02:34:20 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 19, 2009, 01:53:39 PM
Still sounds like lazy rehashed armchair hyped cliches with no relation to last nights efforts by McGeady.

Taking too much out of the ball was an old failing, taking on too many defenders was also an old failing. He has changed his game and that reflected in much of his intelligent play last night.
He did not try to dribble through lost causes, did not get dispossessed and his distribution was very good.
Weakest point is is his crosses, can be sublime but mostly sub par.

Have to disagree Main Street. Several times last night I saw him dribbling around in what could be loosely called 'circles' before either getting dispossessed or just passing it backwards.

He does have talent with the ball at his feet, but I think he still overdoes it, and would be better served beating one man and quickly looking for the pass or cross. Make the ball do the work. Looking at him, to me, it looks like he himself doesn't have a clear plan and tries to run to daylight with the ball.
The thing is, playing against teams of the calibre of Hamilton Academical, he is allowed to do this because they will just sit back and watch. If you want to see a perfect example of a good running game watch Stephen Hunt's game vs Italy. I think McGeady meeds to take a leaf  out of his book because, if he masters the art a a goodrunning pattern, he will take Ireland to the world cup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 19, 2009, 05:15:17 PM
i see lescott has been dropped by everton over his attitude. would love to see him signed before the deadline. Moyes will not sell him to man city. I think wenger could step in and get him for 13m + senderos !
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 19, 2009, 07:07:20 PM
Better attitude in the squad so far this year. Van Persie, Bender and Arseshaving are working their butts off. Vermaelen hoofs it which is nice to see too!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: lfdown2 on August 22, 2009, 06:11:44 PM
Folks any of ye know the ticket prices for the game Wednesday night?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on August 23, 2009, 10:43:56 AM
a good result yesterday, a very good performance from Diaby i always thought he was a good player just finding the right position for him is difficult.

It's looking good so far but were still in August.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 23, 2009, 02:53:21 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on August 23, 2009, 10:43:56 AM
a good result yesterday, a very good performance from Diaby i always thought he was a good player just finding the right position for him is difficult.

It's looking good so far but were still in August.

Next two league games test them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 24, 2009, 03:25:18 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 23, 2009, 02:53:21 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on August 23, 2009, 10:43:56 AM
a good result yesterday, a very good performance from Diaby i always thought he was a good player just finding the right position for him is difficult.

It's looking good so far but were still in August.

Next two league games test them.
if they have 8-10  points by October they  will be serious title contenders for deifinite. IMO they are now but in the past they usually stepped up to the big teams.
When you go to City it will be their first big test as well so they are going to be seriously up for it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ludermor on August 24, 2009, 11:10:31 AM
8-10 point by october? they will be lucky not to be relagated if they only have 10 points by october!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: centre 3/4s on August 24, 2009, 01:46:17 PM
I was thinking that myself.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 25, 2009, 02:51:41 PM
From the next four games i mean.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on August 26, 2009, 07:15:56 PM
   
Tonights team

      Manuel Almunia (c)
      Bacary Sagna
      William Gallas
      Thomas Vermaelen
      Gael Clichy
      Emmanuel Eboue
      Denilson
      Alex Song
      Abou Diaby
      Eduardo
      Nicklas Bendtner
    * Substitutes
    *

      Vito Mannone
    *

      Robin Van Persie
    *

      Aaron Ramsey
    *

      Mikael Silvestre
    *

      Jack Wilshere
    *

      Andrey Arshavin
    *

      Armand Traore
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 26, 2009, 07:33:24 PM
would like to have seen ramsey getting a start.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on August 26, 2009, 07:48:12 PM
Anyone else hear Wenger's David Brent impersonation, 'The biggest room in the world, is the room for improvement'. What a zuke.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on August 26, 2009, 08:12:40 PM
Eduardo = pathetic
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on August 26, 2009, 08:13:31 PM
Quote from: AFS on August 26, 2009, 08:12:40 PM
Eduardo = pathetic

+1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 26, 2009, 08:14:54 PM
Some dive by Eduardo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiffler on August 26, 2009, 08:17:19 PM
Eduardo the new ronaldo  >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 26, 2009, 08:17:30 PM
Pity to see Eduardo dive as I have great time for him disappointing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 26, 2009, 08:22:08 PM
Why would anyone have time for a cheating cnut like that? No doubt wenger wont have seen it. A deflection, an og and a cheat- some team
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 26, 2009, 08:28:15 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 26, 2009, 08:22:08 PM
Why would anyone have time for a cheating cnut like that? No doubt wenger wont have seen it. A deflection, an og and a cheat- some team

The irony of a Tyrone supporter calling anyone a cheat will probably be lost on you.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 26, 2009, 08:33:20 PM
Very good dinny.That aul chestnut again. Say it enough times and people will ignore the lack of actual evidence and believe it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 26, 2009, 08:40:16 PM
Rte quoting wenger- players who dive should be banned. Now thats irony.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 26, 2009, 08:47:37 PM
He didn't dive he simulated a foul.....

Who knows maybe Wenger will condemn it in public but I doubt it somehow....

Ideally Eduardo should be charged and maybe a one game ban but it's endemic in the sport and leadership needs to come from FIFA or UEFA or somebody.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: oakleafgael on August 26, 2009, 08:49:25 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 26, 2009, 08:28:15 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 26, 2009, 08:22:08 PM
Why would anyone have time for a cheating cnut like that? No doubt wenger wont have seen it. A deflection, an og and a cheat- some team

The irony of a Tyrone supporter calling anyone a cheat will probably be lost on you.

Dinny,

I for one thought you where big enough to play the ball and not the man, obviously not.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 26, 2009, 08:57:14 PM
I didn't appreicate Eduardo being abused on what is after all an Arsenal supporters thread. Tyroneman can say what he wants elsewhere.

Please note that I have actually condemed Eduardo and have not defended him in the slightest.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 26, 2009, 09:03:02 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 26, 2009, 08:22:08 PM
A deflection, an og and a cheat- some team
if you put a coma where you have the dash, it would describe the 4th goal ;)

but seriously, very disappointing to see eduardo lower himself to that. he does not need it in his game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 26, 2009, 09:12:40 PM
Sorry dinny, as a celtic fan i  thought i might comment on a disgraceful act. I guess you will now absent yourself from all threads about teams other than those you support?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 26, 2009, 09:22:37 PM
Apology accepted  ;)

If I called McGeady a cnut on the Celtic thread I'm sure I'd be shot down pretty quickly and I try not to comment on Arsenal on other threads. Look there is no fear of me going on to the Celtic thread and defending the indefensiblem Eduarado cheated pure and simple and I would have time for him after his horrific leg break and his fight to recover his form and his career. Alas all the good will he received after the leg break will now probably dissipate and as he is not English the red-tops will have a field day.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 26, 2009, 09:23:58 PM
another great night for arsenal, should be a good game on saturday
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 26, 2009, 09:28:26 PM
Might disagree with you about mcgeady but by all means feel free to refer to donati, naylor, fortune, mcdonald, caldwell, maloney and mcmanus as useless cnuts one and all.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 26, 2009, 09:31:05 PM
its a pity that the penalty has taken the gloss off anotherwise great performance. karma dictates that we will get shafted at some stage during the season for a dogey peno. hoepfully not this weekend though!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on August 26, 2009, 09:52:31 PM
Please let us have Rangers from pot 2......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 26, 2009, 10:46:39 PM
Handy enough oul win. Pity to see Eduardo dive but sure every club seems to suffer from this now and again - remember Samaras getting booked for diving for Celtic v Barca last year and Nakamura v Dundee Utd over a year ago. At least Eduardo knows how not to get caught!

Van P and Cecs hopefully fit for Rooney and Nani (both divers).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: carribbear on August 26, 2009, 10:49:05 PM
Disappointing to see Eduardo dive like that. Arsenal are a good footballing team but to have to resort to those tactics (not forgetting a fair few dives in the first leg) takes the gloss off any win.

Respect - thats a joke.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 26, 2009, 10:58:04 PM
Do yis remember Larsson getting booked for diving - on his birthday too? Ach sure it happens.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 26, 2009, 11:00:46 PM
Great dive from Petrov here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE04TLs_sTE

Needs a bit of work though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 27, 2009, 12:12:41 AM
I managed to find the origins of the Dive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEHnrKPY5iQ
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 27, 2009, 08:08:37 PM
Very decent draw.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 29, 2009, 03:38:50 PM
Worked it out there that if Arsenal continue to score in the league at the same rate, they'll notch 190 goals.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 29, 2009, 03:52:40 PM
And that's without the strikers hitting form  :o

No better team than Man U to put Arsenal in their box, so hoping for a win but would gladly take the draw.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on August 29, 2009, 03:54:54 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 29, 2009, 03:52:40 PM
And that's without the strikers hitting form  :o

No better team than Man U to put Arsenal in their box, so hoping for a win but would gladly take the draw.

I ll gladly take a Gooners win.
5 or 6 goals would please me no end.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 29, 2009, 03:57:22 PM
I'd be happy with 5 goals. Gallas to score 2 with his left nipple.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on August 29, 2009, 04:00:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 29, 2009, 03:57:22 PM
I'd be happy with 5 goals. Gallas to score 2 with his left nipple.

And the other 3 bouncing off his hole as he trys to get the fcuck out of the road !
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 29, 2009, 05:13:31 PM
    *  01 Almunia
    * 03 Sagna
    * 05 Vermaelen
    * 10 Gallas
    * 22 Clichy
    * 27 Eboue
    * 02 Diaby
    * 15 Denilson
    * 17 Song Billong
    * 23 Arshavin
    * 11 Van Persie
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 29, 2009, 06:19:45 PM
SSSShhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 29, 2009, 06:39:28 PM
Great dive from Rooney, can't wait to see the headlines tomorrow. oh wait Wayne is English so it was a definte penalty...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 29, 2009, 06:42:27 PM
Arsenal much the better side, would love to see the foul count, can't believe the Goons are losing this game  >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 29, 2009, 06:52:02 PM
I can't believe what Eboue just did.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 29, 2009, 06:53:46 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 29, 2009, 06:52:02 PM
I can't believe what Eboue just did.

He did a Lucas. Worse in fact as he had nobody even near him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 29, 2009, 07:03:16 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 29, 2009, 06:19:45 PM
SSSShhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

iiiiiiiitttttttttttttttteeeeeeeeeee.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 29, 2009, 07:04:43 PM
Odd sort of game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on August 29, 2009, 07:23:43 PM
First Tyrone and now this.

My life is collapsing around me !!! :( :( :(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 29, 2009, 07:23:54 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 29, 2009, 07:04:43 PM
Odd sort of game.

United were jammy as feck to win it in fairness. Arsenal comfortably the better side until the penalty and OG. That seemed to knock the stuffing out of them really. United look pretty average without Ronaldo in truth although they'll be delighted to have 3 points from that one. Chelsea's league to lose so far.

With the penalty, the OG, the disallowed goal and Wenger getting sent off you'd have to think God is a Celtic fan with a sense of humour though. ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 29, 2009, 07:27:35 PM
Wenger turning into the right comedian, although verging on the insanity.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 29, 2009, 07:29:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 29, 2009, 07:27:35 PM
Wenger turning into the right comedian, although verging on the insanity.

(http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww357/ericburndogg/Untitled-12.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 29, 2009, 07:30:59 PM
Great picture, Wenger is already mad...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 29, 2009, 09:00:35 PM
Our leader:

(http://img.skysports.com/09/08/800x600/Arsene-Wenger-water-bottle-Manchester-United-_2354032.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 29, 2009, 09:41:05 PM

On bad luck during the match...
"I think what is the most difficult to take is that we were the better team and we lost the game. And no matter how long you are in the game, I think if you produce the expected performance, we're in front and have a chance to score the second goal and got punished on two goals. It is beyond belief. So overall I would like to keep the positives of this game because I believe that we can deal well with the disappointment of losing the game today, we have a great future and we can be a real force. But of course, it's difficult to sort out tonight, but we go home without any points."

On being sent off at the end of the match...
"I kicked the bottle of water when the goal was canceled from disappointment and the fourth official called the referee and sent me off. Frankly, I don't know what to say. Thirty seconds to go. It was really spectacular. I didn't even know where to go. He told me to go into the stands, but there was no way to get into the stands. Just because I kicked a bottle of water, I didn't say a word to anybody. It was quite a good kick."

On Robin van Persie's canceled goal...
"I didn't kick the bottle because Gallas was not offside, but because I was disappointed. I thought we had equalized."

On missing out on a penalty in the first half...
"Maybe I'm not the most objective, but for me I believe it was a penalty in the first half.

On the differences between Rooney's and Eduardo's penalties...
"It will be a big difference tomorrow in the newspapers. I don't know...I have not seen it, I do not want especially to see it. He kicked the ball on the corner flat, Rooney, and after was he touched or not, was it a penalty or not, these decisions – leave them to the referee."

On the referee's positioning for the Rooney penalty...
"I don't really know, he was in the middle of their half. I don't know."

On the frustration of not getting any points from the match...
"Football is unpredictable. I believe this team we lack some confidence and maturity and experience when we were in moments where we were not under panic at all. We assess wrongly two situations. The first one was nobody, Rooney, was no danger to score, there was no need to panic. And on the second one as well. On the second own goal, there was not one player of Man United on their place, so it's lack of communication and still little bit I feel in these situations that we might be lacking a little bit of experience."

On the missed opportunities at 1-0...
"We couldn't finish the game off. You play at Old Trafford you get 1-1 of course. And any mistake and then you're down. We had the chances to kill this game and even to come back to 2-2."

On whether the FA will enquire about the bottle-kicking incident...
"I don't know really, I'm always in touch with the FA."

On UEFA's case against Eduardo...
"UEFA you know has made the case with Eduardo. You watched the game last night. They will have to charge Messi for head butting last night or they will lose credibility. They've opened something there. Over the weekend, I'll find you fifty situations where they can intervene, and if they don't Eduardo will be singled out for being the wrong victim because Pedro of Barcelona dived as well last night. I don't think that Eduardo's case has any logic because you look again well at what happened; he was touched. We had clear proof from behind; he was touched on his right leg."

[Saturday, August 29, 2009]
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 29, 2009, 10:30:42 PM
Liking the new Mad Arsene

(http://i30.tinypic.com/311mk2f.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 29, 2009, 10:45:46 PM
feck the OG looks worst now on MOTD than it did in the pub earlier
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: clarshack on August 29, 2009, 11:14:35 PM
arsenal were much the better team and must be kicking themselves for losing that match. if arsenal had have won that match 4-1 utd couldnt have complained. on another day van persie would have had a hat trick. i couldnt believe eboue diving after what happened with eduardo and if i was wenger i would give him a kick up the h*le. also - i've always respected wenger but when he keeps saying there was contact between eduardo and boruc well you lose a bit of respect.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 30, 2009, 12:40:59 PM
Wenger to receive apology
(UKPA)

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger can expect an apology from Premier League referees chief Keith Hackett following his dismissal in the closing seconds of Saturday's 2-1 defeat to Manchester United.

League Managers Association chief executive Richard Bevan has spoken to Hackett about the Old Trafford incident which saw Wenger sent to the stands by referee Mike Dean on the advice of fourth official Lee Probert.

On the decision to penalise Wenger, Bevan said: "Although correct in 'law', it was completely out of context in the game and it was followed by the nonsense which followed over where Arsene Wenger should sit."

Bevan has been told that Wenger will receive an apology from the Premier Game Match Officials Board which appoints officials to top-flight games in England.

The Gunners boss caught Probert's attention when he kicked an empty water bottle down the touchline following a disallowed goal for Arsenal.

There was then confusion as Wenger seemed unaware of where he was supposed to go - moving first to the back of Arsenal dugout then starting to walk down the touchline as the whistle was blown.

Bevan added: "I've spoken to Keith Hackett and he fully recognises the situation was an error and an apology will follow to Arsene Wenger.

"Lee Probert totally failed to manage the situation and created a needless pressure point taking the focus away from the pitch in a big event with only a minute to go."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 30, 2009, 12:52:17 PM
Wenger has gone up even futher in my estimation balls of steel...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on September 01, 2009, 04:53:17 PM
Two game ban confirmed for Eduardo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 01, 2009, 05:18:41 PM
(http://giftchooser.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/20080328-joke-book.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on September 04, 2009, 01:19:52 PM
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/04092009/58/united-retain-most-valuable-title.html

I see Arsenal came 7th in the most valuable sports team in the world.

Its about time the cheque book came out!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 06, 2009, 11:39:01 AM
Check out this bad boy from Bendtner yesterday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkXl9fUz5kg
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 06, 2009, 11:41:14 AM
Van P yesterday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvkIVMlvtZQ
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on September 06, 2009, 11:43:53 AM
He's a different player this yaer. Sometimes his first touch is terrible.That wasn't half bad though!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyronefella on September 07, 2009, 10:52:09 AM
Did rosicky play for the ckeczs on saturday???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ludermor on September 07, 2009, 10:57:50 AM
Quote from: tyronefella on September 07, 2009, 10:52:09 AM
Did rosicky play for the ckeczs on saturday???

WTF????
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyronefella on September 08, 2009, 06:32:42 PM
Czech Republic  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on September 08, 2009, 07:14:57 PM
No.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/international-watch-weekend-round-up

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ludermor on September 08, 2009, 10:39:43 PM
Quote from: tyronefella on September 08, 2009, 06:32:42 PM
Czech Republic  ;D
i gathered that but have you ever seen a worse attempt!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 09, 2009, 05:24:18 PM
Rosicky has just played the first half for the Czechs. Fairly surprising.

Vermaelen not in Belgium squad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: botman on September 09, 2009, 05:30:12 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 09, 2009, 05:24:18 PM
Rosicky has just played the first half for the Czechs. Fairly surprising.

Vermaelen not in Belgium squad.

Going out on limb here - but do you think it's because he is shite?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 09, 2009, 05:42:17 PM
Subbed on 57 (Rosicky)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyronefella on September 09, 2009, 07:54:23 PM
Quote from: botman on September 09, 2009, 05:30:12 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 09, 2009, 05:24:18 PM
Rosicky has just played the first half for the Czechs. Fairly surprising.

Vermaelen not in Belgium squad.

Going out on limb here - but do you think it's because he is shite?

lol wat do u mean by shite? probably the best player Belgium have but he was suspended for the game. Good to see Rosicky getting some game time for the chezcks ludermor  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 10, 2009, 09:52:49 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 09, 2009, 05:24:18 PM
Rosicky has just played the first half for the Czechs. Fairly surprising.

great news for everybody concerned but will he be back to what he was, it's been a long time since he played
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 10, 2009, 10:18:58 PM
Arshavin out for 3 games after playing for Russia.

Will be a big miss v City at the weekend. This has the makings of a good game. Id settle for a result like the last time the teams met @ Eastlands. Are Adebayor and Toure certs to score?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on September 10, 2009, 10:30:35 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on September 10, 2009, 10:18:58 PM
Arshavin out for 3 games after playing for Russia.

Will be a big miss v City at the weekend. This has the makings of a good game. Id settle for a result like the last time the teams met @ Eastlands. Are Adebayor and Toure certs to score?

Yes. 1-1 draw then.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 11, 2009, 09:40:36 AM
Do any of the gooners on here believe rvp is not all he is made out to be?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 11, 2009, 11:38:12 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 11, 2009, 09:40:36 AM
Do any of the gooners on here believe rvp is not all he is made out to be?

i think he's one the best forwards in the premiership but injuries are a big thing with him
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 12, 2009, 09:23:57 AM
Adebayor:   

I have never been a bad influence in the dressing room. I had a little difficult moment with Nicklas Bendtner.

    There was a rule at Arsenal where no one is allowed to come into the dressing room with trainers or house shoes on. I cannot understand why Nicklas came every day with his shoes on.

    [Adebayor confronts Bendtner:] "Nicklas, you are a footballer, I am a footballer. Maybe I am better than you, maybe you are better than me but you have to respect everyone. There are rules saying you cannot come into the dressing-room with your house shoes. Take them off.

    He never took them off and things started from there. I cannot accept that. Even if that happened tomorrow at City, I would fight with somebody.

    The Boss jumped on me. 'Why me?' I said. 'Nicklas is 20, he has to do the things that [William] Gallas, Robin Van Persie and Cesc Fabregas are doing.

    Nicklas had a very easy route [into football]. He had the chance to be in the Arsenal Academy, the chance to be an international for Denmark. Football doesn't stop there. You are young, you have to learn. No matter what quality you have, you have to listen to people, let people help you to be good.

    I was not born with a golden spoon in my mouth. I left Africa at 15, came to Europe [with Metz] and it was very difficult but I knew if I listened I would be better. That's what pushed me to where I am today.

    People in my country love me. I represent my country very well. My family are very proud of me. But I can do more. That's why I am always fighting to improve and be one of the best strikers in the world. I am fighting in games to see how many goals I can score, how many passes I can make, how many tackles, how many times I am coming back to help my team-mates.

    If Ronaldo had gone to Manchester United and thought 'I'm good' he would not have become the best player in the world. He worked with the United players, who helped make him big. Nicklas just thinks he can make himself big.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 12, 2009, 09:59:56 AM
All the pundits on R5 were tipping Arsenal to win this today, but I've a feeling City's players will have something to prove, and nick it 2-1. Surprised how many and how easilly people are writing City off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on September 12, 2009, 10:22:39 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 12, 2009, 09:23:57 AM
Adebayor:   

I have never been a bad influence in the dressing room. I had a little difficult moment with Nicklas Bendtner.

    There was a rule at Arsenal where no one is allowed to come into the dressing room with trainers or house shoes on. I cannot understand why Nicklas came every day with his shoes on.

    [Adebayor confronts Bendtner:] "Nicklas, you are a footballer, I am a footballer. Maybe I am better than you, maybe you are better than me but you have to respect everyone. There are rules saying you cannot come into the dressing-room with your house shoes. Take them off.

    He never took them off and things started from there. I cannot accept that. Even if that happened tomorrow at City, I would fight with somebody.

    The Boss jumped on me. 'Why me?' I said. 'Nicklas is 20, he has to do the things that [William] Gallas, Robin Van Persie and Cesc Fabregas are doing.

    Nicklas had a very easy route [into football]. He had the chance to be in the Arsenal Academy, the chance to be an international for Denmark. Football doesn't stop there. You are young, you have to learn. No matter what quality you have, you have to listen to people, let people help you to be good.

    I was not born with a golden spoon in my mouth. I left Africa at 15, came to Europe [with Metz] and it was very difficult but I knew if I listened I would be better. That's what pushed me to where I am today.

    People in my country love me. I represent my country very well. My family are very proud of me. But I can do more. That's why I am always fighting to improve and be one of the best strikers in the world. I am fighting in games to see how many goals I can score, how many passes I can make, how many tackles, how many times I am coming back to help my team-mates.

    If Ronaldo had gone to Manchester United and thought 'I'm good' he would not have become the best player in the world. He worked with the United players, who helped make him big. Nicklas just thinks he can make himself big.


so thats what it's all about Bentdner wore the wrong shoes! Fcuk me stick the head in him now.....

Never seen him make a tackle in my life....Seems to be a better atmosphere there without him...Hope bentdner rams his words down his throat today.....Nothing like motivating a player like that...Bet you sparky is raging!

Nor back to the Chelsea thread you go there quit trying to wind gooners up or i will set Bentdner on you!

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 12, 2009, 10:39:30 AM
I genuinelly wasn't trying to wind the Goons up, but I honestly think people are writing City off very quickly.

To prove it. Signing of the season so far.... Vermullen?

Spelling might be ropy there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 12, 2009, 10:54:53 AM
In fairness to NT, I thought it was fair comment but I think Man City and in particular Hughes have a lot to prove and many pundits would have reservations about Hughes ability to deliver and I thinking let Dunne go could prove very costly. The game itself I think will be a draw but hoping for a good reaction from the goons after the Manchester robbery...

Also I think Adebayor talks a lot of sense, all he is saying is common sense, team rules need to be observed and young players should respect senior players, hardly vengeful stuff now...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 12, 2009, 11:17:38 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 12, 2009, 10:54:53 AM
In fairness to NT, I thought it was fair comment but I think Man City and in particular Hughes have a lot to prove and many pundits would have reservations about Hughes ability to deliver and I thinking let Dunne go could prove very costly. The game itself I think will be a draw but hoping for a good reaction from the goons after the Manchester robbery...

Also I think Adebayor talks a lot of sense, all he is saying is common sense, team rules need to be observed and young players should respect senior players, hardly vengeful stuff now...

Agree that the Dunne deal (Pardon the pun) was a strange one. They could do with good, experienced cover in that role. Also IF City have a good year, it would have been a good reward for Dunne for his loyalty.

I think that this is City's first game where-by people are going to stand back and wait to see how they cope. In that regard I believe motivation for Hughes, and the players will be huge.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on September 12, 2009, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on September 12, 2009, 10:39:30 AM
I genuinelly wasn't trying to wind the Goons up, but I honestly think people are writing City off very quickly.

To prove it. Signing of the season so far.... Vermullen?

Spelling might be ropy there.


Only keeping you going....If i thought you were serious i would really send Martin Keown on to you!!! 3-1 Arsenal 2day by the way!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 12, 2009, 12:16:12 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on September 12, 2009, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on September 12, 2009, 10:39:30 AM
I genuinelly wasn't trying to wind the Goons up, but I honestly think people are writing City off very quickly.

To prove it. Signing of the season so far.... Vermullen?

Spelling might be ropy there.


Only keeping you going....If i thought you were serious i would really send Martin Keown on to you!!! 3-1 Arsenal 2day by the way!

Keown? KEOWN? Ach sure I'd get Nigel Spackman to him.

Kudos to anyone that remembers Spackman lamping Keown one time!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 12, 2009, 12:20:21 PM
I don't rate Hughes as a top class manager capable of winning the title.

City 4 Arsenal 0.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 12, 2009, 12:34:20 PM
Robinho and Tevez out of todays game. Big blow for City. Not sure if Hughes will stick with 4-3-3 or switch to 4-4-2 for todays game. Northern Irelands midweek tormentor, Vladimier Wiess could get a start today.

Fancy a draw today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on September 12, 2009, 05:32:18 PM
I  have a sneaking suspicion City will win 4-2.  ;)

The Arse might well finish in eight if this run of form keeps up, they cannot seem to beat quality sides.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 12, 2009, 07:40:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr2O9a-kJ-o

Could've been mayhem.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on September 12, 2009, 07:46:13 PM
Should lead to a ban, could have been very ugly that, what a tube!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 12, 2009, 08:00:09 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on September 12, 2009, 07:46:13 PM
Should lead to a ban, could have been very ugly that, what a tube!

I know if that was someone against Chelsea I'd be whining, but to me that's fair game. I am sure he got dog's abuse the whole game, so he has to give some back. Football fans are easilly offended.

Oh aye..... and I told you City were easilly wrote off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 12, 2009, 08:24:22 PM
No Norf, it's not. It's completely irresponsible for a professional footballer to do that. You're not dealing with The Windsors in the crowd here. You're antagonising a hardcore away support, probably rightly inebriated, in an already pressure-cooker situation. Looking at the footage, it could've been extremely nasty and I wouldn't like to be him at the Emirates. Sad it's like that but that's the reality of it.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on September 12, 2009, 08:35:25 PM
Running the length of the pitch to do it was stupid and that is why he saw yellow, if the arse fans had been at the end he scored at and he did it he would not even have been booked. He will not get banned for this as the referee dealt with it at the time. He may however be in trouble for stamping on RVP ( acording to the radio ) which the referee missed. By the way Arsenal have a long tough season ahead to hold onto fourth.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 12, 2009, 08:35:53 PM
Van Persie reaction to Adebayor incident

Robin van Persie has issued the following statement following an incident with Emmanuel Adebayor at Saturday's game:

"I am sad and disappointed by my former team-mate Emmanuel Adebayor's mindless and malicious stamp on me during today's match.

"We are both professional footballers and I know that the game is physical, I too have made hard and sometimes mis-timed challenges but never with the intention of hurting an opponent. He set out to hurt me today.

"I knew he was aiming for a collision because he changed the angle of his body to allow contact to be made.  He moved backwards when his natural momentum would have taken him forward. I find that deeply disrespectful. He has shown a real lack of class today, to me and the fans.

"I do feel lucky that I have not suffered a greater injury. The contact was only centimetres from my eye. I have not received an apology from him, there were no words exchanged afterwards. He had his own agenda today and that is bad for football. It's bad for the game we all love.

"I want to make it clear that this has nothing to do with the result of today's match.  We do not hide from that disappointment but I need to speak out about his behaviour."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on September 12, 2009, 08:38:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 12, 2009, 08:24:22 PM
No Norf, it's not. It's completely irresponsible for a professional footballer to do that. You're not dealing with The Windsors in the crowd here. You're antagonising a hardcore away support, probably rightly inebriated, in an already pressure-cooker situation. Looking at the footage, it could've been extremely nasty and I wouldn't like to be him at the Emirates. Sad it's like that but that's the reality of it.

I agree with O'Neill on this one, the man is paid vast sums of money to be a professional sportsman and for him to incuite a bunch of drunken fans by taking the time to run over a hundred yards at them and then to taunt them put peoples health at risk, not just his own.

To be a professional you have to rise above the taunting that you are going to get and focus on the game, he made it about him and in the process endangered the health of fans and security men. I would have sent him for that no questions asked.

Arsenal fans are very passionate, they booed him before the start of the game, big deal, it happens on every ground in the country and he needs to grow up and learn to deal with it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on September 12, 2009, 08:42:26 PM
Do you think Mr Van Persie wants to make sure Mr Adebayor get banned :D While he may have a point it kinda goes against the unwritten rules in football, ie when someone does something like this to you react like Roy Keane, say nothing play dumb then do them in the next match. Keano was not the only player to ever do this ( he was the only one stupid enough to write about it in a book)
As someone who likes to put it about himself RVP is lining himself up for trouble/ ridicule at a later date. All he needed to do was get Lee Dixon to highlight it on MOTD and Adebayor was looking at a ban anyway.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on September 12, 2009, 08:43:17 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 12, 2009, 08:35:53 PM
Van Persie reaction to Adebayor incident

Robin van Persie has issued the following statement following an incident with Emmanuel Adebayor at Saturday's game:

"I am sad and disappointed by my former team-mate Emmanuel Adebayor's mindless and malicious stamp on me during today's match.

"We are both professional footballers and I know that the game is physical, I too have made hard and sometimes mis-timed challenges but never with the intention of hurting an opponent. He set out to hurt me today.

"I knew he was aiming for a collision because he changed the angle of his body to allow contact to be made.  He moved backwards when his natural momentum would have taken him forward. I find that deeply disrespectful. He has shown a real lack of class today, to me and the fans.

"I do feel lucky that I have not suffered a greater injury. The contact was only centimetres from my eye. I have not received an apology from him, there were no words exchanged afterwards. He had his own agenda today and that is bad for football. It's bad for the game we all love.

"I want to make it clear that this has nothing to do with the result of today's match.  We do not hide from that disappointment but I need to speak out about his behaviour."

RVP is a class act and is the consummate professional footballer, he is obviously disappointed in his former team mate and he is correct in being so given the way yer man acted to both himself and the crowd. I hope that Hughes has the balls to put manners on him however i wouldnt bet the farm on it given the fact that united are on the horizon, I hope the FA ban this tube for a month and I also believe that RVP means it when he says it was not because of the result.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on September 12, 2009, 08:45:13 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on September 12, 2009, 08:42:26 PM
Do you think Mr Van Persie wants to make sure Mr Adebayor get banned :D While he may have a point it kinda goes against the unwritten rules in football, ie when someone does something like this to you react like Roy Keane, say nothing play dumb then do them in the next match. Keano was not the only player to ever do this ( he was the only one stupid enough to write about it in a book)
As someone who likes to put it about himself RVP is lining himself up for trouble/ ridicule at a later date. All he needed to do was get Lee Dixon to highlight it on MOTD and Adebayor was looking at a ban anyway.

The rules go out the window if you feel like the hoor is trying to take your livelyhood away from you.

I agree with you, Keane is stupid.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 12, 2009, 08:51:57 PM
Great win for City today. Haven't seen the Adebayor incidents yet so can't really comment. May have a bit over the top but he was out to make a point today and he did it. He has received countless criticism before and after his move from players, managers and fans. If you got the chance to ram it down their throats would you not do it.

Arsenal fans seem to have short memories, after scoring against Spurs @ Highbury, Henry ran to the other end of the pitch to celebrate in front of the Spurs fans. Also remember incidents involving Rooney, Neville, Gerrard etc. The usual excuse was rolled out that he was showing some passion, and as he's English, they get away with it, not so if it's a foreigner or a controversial character.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on September 12, 2009, 08:54:36 PM
Cobblers I remember Van Persie seeing red in a league cup game at OT years ago for an attempt to elbow Kieran richardson, if he had connected he would have broke his jaw. Then he comes out with I have never attempted to injure another player, bollocks. Trevor Brooking was a consumate professional, how many times did he get kicked/elbowed/intiomidated in the seventies? Did he feel the need to run crying to the media in an attempt to get another professional banned? If it was not about the result why did Van P not wait until after the weekend to see if the FA did anything about the incident on Monday? He is pissed off because he can see a former teamate who he did not get on with basically waving two fingers at him and the arsenal club and since he cannot get revenge on Adebayor on the pitch he wants to do it via the media.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 12, 2009, 09:00:13 PM
It's more the City fans I feel for. Adebayor thought of Arsenal when he scored.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on September 12, 2009, 09:01:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 12, 2009, 09:00:13 PM
It's more the City fans I feel for. Adebayor thought of Arsenal when he scored.

Arsenal and his goalscoring/ win bonus
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 12, 2009, 09:04:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 12, 2009, 09:00:13 PM
It's more the City fans I feel for. Adebayor thought of Arsenal when he scored.

And rightly so. First game against his former team, and he scores. Why not think of them to let them know they were wrong to sell him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 12, 2009, 09:06:06 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on September 12, 2009, 09:04:15 PM

And rightly so. First game against his former team, and he scores. Why not think of them to let them know they were wrong to sell him.

Ahem. Indeed. Give it 4 months my son. You'll see why.

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on September 12, 2009, 09:06:21 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on September 12, 2009, 08:54:36 PM
Cobblers I remember Van Persie seeing red in a league cup game at OT years ago for an attempt to elbow Kieran richardson, if he had connected he would have broke his jaw. Then he comes out with I have never attempted to injure another player, bollocks. Trevor Brooking was a consumate professional, how many times did he get kicked/elbowed/intiomidated in the seventies? Did he feel the need to run crying to the media in an attempt to get another professional banned? If it was not about the result why did Van P not wait until after the weekend to see if the FA did anything about the incident on Monday? He is pissed off because he can see a former teamate who he did not get on with basically waving two fingers at him and the arsenal club and since he cannot get revenge on Adebayor on the pitch he wants to do it via the media.

I dont recall RVP crying to the media much in the past, it is ridiculous that you bring up Trevor Brooking, a man who by the way reminds me of our very own Rufus T Firefly.
In brookings day there might have been a handful of reporters at a game and a few cameramen and commentators, nowadays you have hundreds of the hoors at game, microphones everywhere and you have youtube etc, players of today have many more demands on them than players from the past, that said it does seem that RVP wanted to have the incident highlighted because he felt strongly that he could have lost an eye in the tackle, i would be piised too, oh and he doesnt make a habit of it so give him the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 12, 2009, 11:24:38 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on September 12, 2009, 11:56:26 PM
Thats unreal, no excuse for that,  was it highlighted on MOTD?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on September 13, 2009, 12:46:45 AM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on September 12, 2009, 08:51:57 PM
Also remember incidents involving Rooney, Neville, Gerrard etc. The usual excuse was rolled out that he was showing some passion, and as he's English, they get away with it, not so if it's a foreigner or a controversial character.

Don't remember Gerrard ever reacting like this, I may be wrong but please enlighten me
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on September 13, 2009, 12:56:51 AM
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on September 13, 2009, 12:05:26 AM
A natural reaction when a man goes in to mow you, van persie wasnt going in easy on Ade...

A natural reaction is to stamp on their face?

Quote from: Carmen Stateside on September 12, 2009, 11:56:26 PM
Thats unreal, no excuse for that,  was it highlighted on MOTD?

Sure was.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on September 13, 2009, 02:01:00 AM
Quote from: slow corner back on September 12, 2009, 08:42:26 PM
Do you think Mr Van Persie wants to make sure Mr Adebayor get banned :D While he may have a point it kinda goes against the unwritten rules in football, ie when someone does something like this to you react like Roy Keane, say nothing play dumb then do them in the next match. Keano was not the only player to ever do this ( he was the only one stupid enough to write about it in a book)
As someone who likes to put it about himself RVP is lining himself up for trouble/ ridicule at a later date. All he needed to do was get Lee Dixon to highlight it on MOTD and Adebayor was looking at a ban anyway.

Read Lawrenson's book.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 13, 2009, 12:56:56 PM
that adebayor is nothing but scum i hope he gets banned for a few games, i dont mind scoring goals as this is what he's good at but running the whole up the pitch to celebrate with the away is pointless its a pity he didn't do his hamstring on the run.

Good to rosicky back playing, need to get 3points in our next league game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on September 13, 2009, 03:40:23 PM
Yesterday was the first time I have ever seen him in his own half.

He was lazy, full of himself cod at Areal and will prove to be the same at City. Mark my words !!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 13, 2009, 06:53:28 PM
So, apart from all the Adebayor shenanagins yesterday, what did use Gooners think of City's performance yesterday? Are City now rightful challengers to the big 4 monopoly?

I thought once Arsenal equalised they would have piled on the pressure and I would have settled for a draw, but City seemed to find another gear or 2 and tore Arsenal open in a brilliant 15 minute spell. The teams workrate, especially by Bellamy for the 4th goal, was key for City's performance yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on September 13, 2009, 08:06:32 PM
Quote from: stew on September 12, 2009, 09:06:21 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on September 12, 2009, 08:54:36 PM
Cobblers I remember Van Persie seeing red in a league cup game at OT years ago for an attempt to elbow Kieran richardson, if he had connected he would have broke his jaw. Then he comes out with I have never attempted to injure another player, bollocks. Trevor Brooking was a consumate professional, how many times did he get kicked/elbowed/intiomidated in the seventies? Did he feel the need to run crying to the media in an attempt to get another professional banned? If it was not about the result why did Van P not wait until after the weekend to see if the FA did anything about the incident on Monday? He is pissed off because he can see a former teamate who he did not get on with basically waving two fingers at him and the arsenal club and since he cannot get revenge on Adebayor on the pitch he wants to do it via the media.

I dont recall RVP crying to the media much in the past, it is ridiculous that you bring up Trevor Brooking, a man who by the way reminds me of our very own Rufus T Firefly.
In brookings day there might have been a handful of reporters at a game and a few cameramen and commentators, nowadays you have hundreds of the hoors at game, microphones everywhere and you have youtube etc, players of today have many more demands on them than players from the past, that said it does seem that RVP wanted to have the incident highlighted because he felt strongly that he could have lost an eye in the tackle, i would be piised too, oh and he doesnt make a habit of it so give him the benefit of the doubt.

The only reeason Trevor Brooking was mentioned was because of your reference to consumate professional which Brooking undoubtedly was. By the way what was RVP the consumate professional doing sliding in two footed from behind on Adebayor in the first place? As they said on MOTD  last night RVP could have seen red if he connected with Adebayor. There is no question he was trying to do him, those two have history from last season. Adebayor then responded with a dirty tr**p of his own, ban them both I say. Three games for RVP and six for Adebayor
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 14, 2009, 12:31:46 AM
No harm to Arsenal but Wengers refusal to acknoledge that several of his first 11 are not good enough will cost them the title again this year. Song, Diaby, Denilson, Bentdner, Eboue, Walcott all nowhere near the level they need ot be at.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 14, 2009, 12:44:15 AM
I'd have doubts about Bendtner and agree regarding Eboue, but the rest i'm warming to this year. Diaby was terrific against Utd. Why he then played him out wide v Man City is puzzling. I thought Arsenal are slowly showing signs of a side maturing nicely but there's still that wee bit of cuteness, or tactical fouling, that seems to harm them when others hit them on the break. Bring back Gilberto. No shame losing to Man Utd but City was a wee bit disappointing as it's hard to take them seriously. They'll implode soon.

Onwards and upwards - Champions League this week - always a great distraction.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 14, 2009, 08:41:00 AM
Is there actually a dumber footballer out there than Adebayor, he makes Eboue look like Einstein, looks like he's going to get a record ban for his 3 acts of stupidity and fully deserved for the clown.

Man City remind me of Villa last season so expect them to implode after Christmas, can't take them serious at all, imagine if Wenger came out with this classic quote as Hughes did regarding the village idiot's celebrations

Quote"He [Adebayor] wanted to share the moment with the fans in the corner with whom he has a special affinity. It is the same area that the Arsenal fans were in so there is the potential for people to see it as the wrong thing to do."

Gobshite!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 14, 2009, 08:50:04 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 14, 2009, 08:41:00 AM
Is there actually a dumber footballer out there than Adebayor, he makes Eboue look like Einstein, looks like he's going to get a record ban for his 3 acts of stupidity and fully deserved for the clown.

Man City remind me of Villa last season so expect them to implode after Christmas, can't take them serious at all, imagine if Wenger came out with this classic quote as Hughes did regarding the village idiot's celebrations

Quote"He [Adebayor] wanted to share the moment with the fans in the corner with whom he has a special affinity. It is the same area that the Arsenal fans were in so there is the potential for people to see it as the wrong thing to do."

Gobshite!

Wenger has been saying stuff like that for years. His number 1 excuse is "I didn't see it". He even said himself he does it to protect his players. What manager is going to condem his own player?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: filthydog on September 14, 2009, 05:46:27 PM
Gooners fans really showed their true colours on Saturday. They completely over reacted to EA when he simply wanted to share his moment with them. This could have been a complete disaster on major scale. I think the stewards should be issued with tazers for all Arsenal games in order to control this unruly mob.

RVP tried to end EA's career with a wild lunge and was fortunate that EA had quick feet to avoid his reckless challenge.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on September 14, 2009, 05:57:27 PM
Quote from: filthydog on September 14, 2009, 05:46:27 PM
Gooners fans really showed their true colours on Saturday. They completely over reacted to EA when he simply wanted to share his moment with them. This could have been a complete disaster on major scale. I think the stewards should be issued with tazers for all Arsenal games in order to control this unruly mob.

RVP tried to end EA's career with a wild lunge and was fortunate that EA had quick feet to avoid his reckless challenge.

I knew Alistair Campbell was on this site.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on September 14, 2009, 07:05:50 PM
So Eduardo's ban is quashed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8236689.stm

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 14, 2009, 07:23:20 PM
Quote from: AFS on September 14, 2009, 07:05:50 PM
So Eduardo's ban is quashed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8236689.stm



A bit of common sense, even though he's guilty as hell. Can't ban him and not others.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on September 14, 2009, 08:45:26 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on September 14, 2009, 07:23:20 PM
Quote from: AFS on September 14, 2009, 07:05:50 PM
So Eduardo's ban is quashed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8236689.stm



A bit of common sense, even though he's guilty as hell. Can't ban him and not others.
Ah yeah but there's always "making an example" of players. Now is the time to start a crackdown on this type of thing. No time like the present!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on September 14, 2009, 09:50:12 PM
Pathetic cop out from Eufa, I fully expect them to fold on the chelsea transfer ban also. Uefa/Fifa are terrified of the G14 breaking away to form a super league
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 14, 2009, 09:57:22 PM
Not a cop out at all. What UEFA realised was that it's impossible to determine intent when there is contact.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 14, 2009, 10:04:09 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 14, 2009, 09:57:22 PM
Not a cop out at all. What UEFA realised was that it's impossible to determine intent when there is contact.

What contact? Only contact there was, was between Eduardo and the ground. Definately a dive, he cheated the ref, but hard for Uefa to ban him as would have to do it for other cases.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on September 14, 2009, 10:05:43 PM
A dive is a dive O Neill, Eduardo was nailed on guilty and everyone knew it, ( even Wenger admitted it was not a penalty ) however when Arsenal threatened tying Eufa up with lawyers and precedents and nonsense like that Eufa bottled it afraid to upset a G14 club. There was as much contact with eduardo as there was with Dida when he did his dying swan at Celtic park a few years back only difference being Eufa had the balls to ban Dida ( mainly because Milan did not have the brass neck to appeal )
Eufa are terrified of the G14 and wil fold before Chelseas lawyers too when Chelsea put the appeal in. It does not make what Eduardo or Chelsea ( or lots of other players and clubs ) do right. Until footballs governing bodies deal with cheating in a firm proper manner it will continue to be rife ion the game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: longrunsthefox on September 14, 2009, 10:12:09 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 14, 2009, 09:57:22 PM
Not a cop out at all. What UEFA realised was that it's impossible to determine intent when there is contact.

Jees! O'Neill I expected better from you. was so clearly a dive
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 14, 2009, 10:59:22 PM
You don't seem to understand what i've written.

There was contact - of that there's no doubt given the video angles - even UEFA admit there was on review. Whether it was a dive or not (most likely was) is impossible to ascertain in such cases and won't stand up on appeal.

If you think there was no contact, please leave the thread.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: clarshack on September 15, 2009, 09:49:17 AM
there was NO contact. take the blinkers off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 15, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: slow corner back on September 14, 2009, 09:50:12 PM
Pathetic cop out from Eufa, I fully expect them to fold on the chelsea transfer ban also. Uefa/Fifa are terrified of the G14 breaking away to form a super league

Wrong on three counts.
The G14 I believe no longer exist.
Chelsea were never part of the G14.

And.... UEFA really pander to Chelsea??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on September 15, 2009, 02:23:06 PM
Quote from: clarshack on September 15, 2009, 09:49:17 AM
there was NO contact. take the blinkers off.

Uefa hadn't a leg to stand on (sorry). Angry Celtic fans can say what they like but Uefa can't invent/circumnavigate their own rules.

If there was a case for a suspension imposed by Uefa it would be for Boruc manhandling the referee.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: longrunsthefox on September 15, 2009, 07:08:25 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 14, 2009, 10:59:22 PM
You don't seem to understand what i've written.

There was contact - of that there's no doubt given the video angles - even UEFA admit there was on review. Whether it was a dive or not (most likely was) is impossible to ascertain in such cases and won't stand up on appeal.

If you think there was no contact, please leave the thread.

No contact... no leave thread  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on September 15, 2009, 10:12:10 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on September 15, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: slow corner back on September 14, 2009, 09:50:12 PM
Pathetic cop out from Eufa, I fully expect them to fold on the chelsea transfer ban also. Uefa/Fifa are terrified of the G14 breaking away to form a super league

Wrong on three counts.
The G14 I believe no longer exist.
Chelsea were never part of the G14.

And.... UEFA really pander to Chelsea??

OK Mr Pedantic the G14 is now G18 or G20 big deal still all the big clubs grouping together and Chelsea are part of it now. And yes since Chelsea are part of the G20 ( or whatever number it is ) UEFA do pander to them. Why were Chelsea not hammered ( ie thrown out of the competition ) for the behaviour last year? Chelsea have form with referees, remember Jose seeing Rijkard "talking " to the ref even though it was proved Jose was nowhere near the incident? That is now two officials who have had death threats after refereeing Chelsea in the champions league.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 15, 2009, 10:20:12 PM
There's no g-anything.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on September 15, 2009, 10:21:17 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 15, 2009, 10:20:12 PM
There's no g-anything.

string?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 16, 2009, 08:02:49 AM
force?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 16, 2009, 12:05:17 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 15, 2009, 10:20:12 PM
There's no g-anything.

Muppet's top grade in school.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 16, 2009, 04:52:01 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on September 15, 2009, 10:12:10 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on September 15, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
Quote from: slow corner back on September 14, 2009, 09:50:12 PM
Pathetic cop out from Eufa, I fully expect them to fold on the chelsea transfer ban also. Uefa/Fifa are terrified of the G14 breaking away to form a super league

Wrong on three counts.
The G14 I believe no longer exist.
Chelsea were never part of the G14.

And.... UEFA really pander to Chelsea??

OK Mr Pedantic the G14 is now G18 or G20 big deal still all the big clubs grouping together and Chelsea are part of it now. And yes since Chelsea are part of the G20 ( or whatever number it is ) UEFA do pander to them. Why were Chelsea not hammered ( ie thrown out of the competition ) for the behaviour last year? Chelsea have form with referees, remember Jose seeing Rijkard "talking " to the ref even though it was proved Jose was nowhere near the incident? That is now two officials who have had death threats after refereeing Chelsea in the champions league.

Hello Mr Chatting rubbish, Mr pedantic here.
The G14, G18, Gee me te father or whatever you choose to call it doesn't exist in any capacity. I was just trying to highlight the fact that Chelsea are not/ were never part of this group, which watered your point somewhat.

I am not gonig to go over the rest of the points, as they have been argued to death on here already. But remember UEFA did say that Rijkard WAS talking to the ref in an inapproriate area, no matter what Jose did or did not see in the Nou Camp.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on September 16, 2009, 05:20:31 PM
Sorry to post this on the Gooners thread as I'm widening the discussion out a bit here.  But one thing that gets me with commentators/pundits/managers is the phrase "there was contact" implying that any contact between defender/goalkeeper and attacker inside the penalty area is an automatic penalty.  Surely if this were the case then any contact outside the penalty area should be a direct free kick?  By extension there could be no such thing as a tackle as 99% of these result in contact??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on September 16, 2009, 07:57:10 PM
2-0 down after 5 minutes WTF  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on September 16, 2009, 08:04:30 PM
4-0 now :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on September 16, 2009, 08:09:44 PM
Sorry false alarm :D
still 2-0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 16, 2009, 08:12:51 PM
links anyone
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on September 16, 2009, 08:14:50 PM
Take your pick

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=48884&part=sports (http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=48884&part=sports)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 16, 2009, 08:25:39 PM
cheers carmen, although it could be tough to watch
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 16, 2009, 08:28:25 PM
http://www.justin.tv/cheveyosporttv1/popout

Never a dull moment with le Arse
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 16, 2009, 08:33:25 PM
Timely goal from Bentdner. Great run from Diaby.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 16, 2009, 10:03:46 PM
good recovery in the second half, need a few wins to get the confidence going again
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on September 16, 2009, 10:15:27 PM
Good comeback but how did they miss that offside for the second?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on September 16, 2009, 11:16:39 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 16, 2009, 10:15:27 PM
Good comeback but how did they miss that offside for the second?

Hand ball too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 19, 2009, 06:11:03 PM
Aisey enough today. Eboue had his annual clinker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 19, 2009, 07:09:16 PM
good win today next few league very winable hopefully go on a bit of a winning streak.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 19, 2009, 08:07:01 PM
Any more crying from the gooners today?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 19, 2009, 08:09:18 PM
What is it about Man City, their players and fans, being obsessed with Arsenal. I'd go months without thinking about Man City.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on September 19, 2009, 08:22:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 19, 2009, 08:09:18 PM
What is it about Man City, their players and fans, being obsessed with Arsenal. I'd go months without thinking about Man City.

To be fair I was thinking it was the other way round. People are obviously realising city are a threat this year...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 19, 2009, 08:41:14 PM
How many Man City supporters does it take to turn on a light bulb?































None there use to living in the shadows....boom!  boom!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 20, 2009, 09:42:51 AM
Leaving aside their admittedly great football- is there any other team that gets away with as much as arsenal? Diving, offsides, handballs, all unseen by wenger of course
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 20, 2009, 07:05:23 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 20, 2009, 09:42:51 AM
Leaving aside their admittedly great football- is there any other team that gets away with as much as arsenal? Diving, offsides, handballs, all unseen by wenger of course

Being offside is hardly cheating, its a mistake from the officials.

Nice joke D B
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 20, 2009, 07:10:28 PM
What about Eboue's blatant attempt at cheating yesterday when he tried to handle it into the net? Yet again, Wenger doesn't see it. He does himself and his team no favours by saying this after each incident. I wonder will Eboue be charged with improper conduct for celebrating a la Adebayor in front of the Wigan fans. Hardly think it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 20, 2009, 07:36:34 PM
Jaysus does this nutter Archie ever stop whinging?

And for the record Wenger did see it and he makes perfect sense but I love the blind man parody when he performs it...

A nonsense story emanating from the tabloids...

Quote"Of course we want to stamp out cheating in the game," Wenger said. "It is not necessarily cheating sometimes, it (handball) can be a reflex as well.

"I do not encourage cheating and we all have to fight against it, but in this particular situation it can be a reflex as well.

"When the player goes down sometimes it is not always because he wants to cheat.

"It can be a foul and he makes a bit more of it, but the personality I feel in England that the personality of the player who does it is more important than the importance of the foul and the cheating.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on September 20, 2009, 07:45:31 PM
Don't you mean Wenger?

In fairness, you have to admire Wenger for sticking up for his players. Any manager would, but it's the embarrassing crap Wenger comes out with that makes it so annoying and makes a fool of himself. He see's the incidents he wants to see.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 20, 2009, 07:50:21 PM
And you're still whinging   :D Let it go lad, let it go..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on September 21, 2009, 03:14:02 AM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on September 20, 2009, 07:45:31 PM
Don't you mean Wenger?

In fairness, you have to admire Wenger for sticking up for his players. Any manager would, but it's the embarrassing crap Wenger comes out with that makes it so annoying and makes a fool of himself. He see's the incidents he wants to see.

You'll cringe when you are in second year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 21, 2009, 01:52:56 PM
Arsene Wenger isn't the only manager to defend his players, Mark Hughes defended adebayor for stamping on a person's face and for Bellamy hitting an over passionate fan.

I enjoyed this weekend of football, it the first time i cheered United in a long time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 26, 2009, 08:51:46 PM
Good win today, good performance from Cesc Mannone and all the defence. Keep it up
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 26, 2009, 09:03:23 PM
Cesc was actually crap for 3/4 of the game. Worried about his plans. Mannone the Great.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 26, 2009, 09:32:18 PM
Mannone made the kind of saves Almunia never seems to make  :-\

It was a good win for Arsenal and they should make up points on either Chelsea or Liverpool next week hopefully it will be a draw..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 29, 2009, 07:38:13 PM
Arsenal: Mannone, Eboue, Gallas, Vermaelen, Clichy, Song Billong, Rosicky, Fabregas, Diaby, Arshavin, van Persie.

Subs: Szczesny, Sagna, Senderos, Eduardo, Vela, Ramsey, Gibbs.

Olympiakos: Nikopolidis, Zewlakow, Avraam Papadopoulos, Mellberg, Raul Bravo, Ledesma, Torosidis, Dudu, Zairi, Leonardo, Diogo.

Subs: Urko, Domi, Galitsios, Stoltidis, Oscar, Mitroglou, Giannis Papadopoulos.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 29, 2009, 09:23:52 PM
1-0 RVP. Clooney doing a great job in goal for the Greeks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 29, 2009, 09:29:50 PM
Arseshaving 2-0. 5-a-side goal. Perhaps off-side but worth watching tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 29, 2009, 09:45:25 PM
maybe it was but good to get a win.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Declan on September 30, 2009, 07:47:42 AM
Arsenal are a joy to watch in that form
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 02, 2009, 12:45:28 PM
Surprised there is no mention of Wenger's records yesterday on here.

Anyhow. In the interests of camaraderie, and fairness. After Dinny posted the Drogba article last week, have any of you seen the Walcott article in Sunday's observer sport monthly. The fella literally came from nowhere to play top class football. Cannot find it online, but will scan it later if needs.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 02, 2009, 12:48:12 PM
Ahem. Would've helped if I looked in the right site.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/20/theo-walcott-interview-arsenal (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/sep/20/theo-walcott-interview-arsenal)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on October 04, 2009, 03:32:44 PM
excellent result today, great to see walcott scoring, i wonder will fabio pick him???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 04, 2009, 03:54:11 PM
That was bloody sexy, sexy football.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jimmy Two Times on October 04, 2009, 06:14:12 PM
Fabregas was unrecognisable from the player who was misplacing passes and losing the ball against Fulham.  Four assists and one goal was some return.  Rosicky looks like he is getting back to his best.  Glad to see Big Sam getting taught a football lesson.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 04, 2009, 08:15:48 PM
It was one of those Arsenal games, usually 2-3 a season, that was just like watching fantasy football. You could sense the Blackburn players just wanted out of there around 70 mins. Fabregas was titanic. His goal was special but his simple lay-off for Walcott was telepathic. That goal was a poorer version of the famous Brazil 70 WC final goal.

Pity there's an international break now. What about Vermaelen?? Some buy so far. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 04, 2009, 08:27:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 04, 2009, 08:15:48 PM
It was one of those Arsenal games, usually 2-3 a season, that was just like watching fantasy football. You could sense the Blackburn players just wanted out of there around 70 mins. Fabregas was titanic. His goal was special but his simple lay-off for Walcott was telepathic. That goal was a poorer version of the famous Brazil 70 WC final goal.

Pity there's an international break now. What about Vermaelen?? Some buy so far.
They need to pay attention in the other 30 odd matches if they want back up with the big boys. Having said that, in full flow there is no better team to watch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jimmy Two Times on October 04, 2009, 08:29:24 PM
Vermaelen has been immense, you have to credit him and Gallas.  They have the toughest assignment in the team as they are left in a lot of one on one situations on counter attacks as the midfielders and full backs bomb on.  Chelsea, Man U and Liverpool's centre halves get more protection.  More of the same will do against the brum next up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 04, 2009, 10:03:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 04, 2009, 08:15:48 PM
It was one of those Arsenal games, usually 2-3 a season, that was just like watching fantasy football. You could sense the Blackburn players just wanted out of there around 70 mins. Fabregas was titanic. His goal was special but his simple lay-off for Walcott was telepathic. That goal was a poorer version of the famous Brazil 70 WC final goal.

Pity there's an international break now. What about Vermaelen?? Some buy so far.

very true. we are just gathering some momentum. however we still need to sign a defensive midfielder though in january
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on October 05, 2009, 06:55:10 PM
Quote from: ildanach on October 04, 2009, 10:03:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 04, 2009, 08:15:48 PM
It was one of those Arsenal games, usually 2-3 a season, that was just like watching fantasy football. You could sense the Blackburn players just wanted out of there around 70 mins. Fabregas was titanic. His goal was special but his simple lay-off for Walcott was telepathic. That goal was a poorer version of the famous Brazil 70 WC final goal.

Pity there's an international break now. What about Vermaelen?? Some buy so far.

very true. we are just gathering some momentum. however we still need to sign a defensive midfielder though in january

100% agree as song will be in african nations i wonder would Viera do the trick?? i'm glad theo isn't picked for england.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 17, 2009, 10:47:31 AM
Jaysus lads, page 9!!

Anyways, back on the road today. A few injuries - Diaby, Eduardo, Clichy, Bendtner - not sure about Walcott.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on October 17, 2009, 11:16:13 AM
Does Martin Taylor still play for birmingham, i hope he doesn't get any abuse. I was hoping to see Bendtner playing ah well asharvin and van persie will have to do.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 17, 2009, 12:06:59 PM
Yep, the Bender would've been useful......http://channelbee.com/forums/8/topics/40683/posts
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on October 17, 2009, 12:25:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 17, 2009, 12:06:59 PM
Yep, the Bender would've been useful......http://channelbee.com/forums/8/topics/40683/posts

There was definitely contact.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 17, 2009, 08:42:40 PM
Motoring nicely.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on October 17, 2009, 10:25:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 17, 2009, 08:42:40 PM
Motoring nicely.

Sure are and the only one of the 'top 4' who are playing well.

Will be top soon ;D

Utd are playing shite and their luck willl soon run out (Hopefully)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on October 19, 2009, 11:22:21 AM
Tough game next week for arsenal west ham away but i think we should win it, hopefully the boys come back from holland injury free.

Quick question is Defoe suspended for the derby game???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on October 19, 2009, 11:29:29 AM
Playing the best football, but they look vulnerable at the back still, another centre half needed at least. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 20, 2009, 08:27:17 PM
nice goal by Fabregas, even i could have tapped it in
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 20, 2009, 09:42:55 PM
feck that 1 1, should have had it wrapped up at the start on the second half
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 20, 2009, 09:44:29 PM
Crappy enough game. Arsenal just strolled through it as if couldn't be bothered. Should hammer them at the Emirates though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 20, 2009, 09:49:59 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 20, 2009, 09:44:29 PM
Crappy enough game. Arsenal just strolled through it as if couldn't be bothered. Should hammer them at the Emirates though.

Just saying the same thing, the group games are fairly boring although I did enjoy flicking over to the delusionists game.

A win for Arsenal and Olympiakos in their next game sees both qualified, even a draw in the Olympiakos game since the goons qualified.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 22, 2009, 03:54:56 PM
Happy 60th Birthday Arsene

Quotes robbed from Football365

1) [Upon being asked what he does with his spare time] "I watch football."

2) "I tried to watch the Tottenham match on television in my hotel yesterday, but I fell asleep."

3) "When I first came to Arsenal, I realised the back four were all university graduates in the art of defending. As for Tony Adams, I consider him to be a doctor of defence. He is simply outstanding."

4) [On the qualities of Dennis Bergkamp] "Intelligence and class. Class is of course, most of the time linked to what you can do with the ball, but the intelligence makes you use the technique in an efficient way. It's like somebody who has a big vocabulary but he doesn't say intelligent words, and somebody who has a big vocabulary but he can talk intelligently, and that's what Dennis is all about. What he does, there's always a head and always a brain. And his technique allows him to do what he sees, and what he decides to do."

5) [After the Arsenal fans booed a 1-1 draw with Middlesbrough in November 1998] "If you eat caviar every day it's difficult to return to sausages."

6) "A company works best when everybody does the job he is paid to do."

7) "Sometimes now, when I watch continental games on television, I'm a bit bored. I'm thinking: 'Where is the intensity?'"

8) [In 2003] "It's not impossible. I know it will be difficult for us to go through the season unbeaten. But if we keep the right attitude it's possible we can do it."

9) [On Jose Mourinho after the then Chelsea boss accused him of being a voyeur] "He's out of order, disconnected with reality and disrespectful. When you give success to stupid people, it makes them more stupid sometimes and not more intelligent."

10) "A football team is like a beautiful woman. When you do not tell her, she forgets she is beautiful."

11) [In response to Sepp Blatter's accusation that big clubs were guilty of 'child slavery] "If you have a child who is a good musician, what is your first reaction? It is to put them into a good music school, not in an average one. So why should that not happen in football?"

12) [After the departure of Sol Campbell to Portsmouth] "It is a big surprise to me because he cancelled his contract to go abroad. Have you sold Portsmouth to a foreign country?"

13) "I believe the target of anything in life should be to do it so well that it becomes an art. When you read some books they are fantastic, the writer touches something in you that you know you would not have brought out of yourself. He makes you discover something interesting in your life. If you are living like an animal, what is the point of living? What makes daily life interesting is that we try to transform it to something that is close to art. And football is like that. When I watch Barcelona, it is art."

14) "When you represent a club it's about values and qualities, not about passports."

15) "If I go into a season and I say, 'For fu*k's sake, if we don't win anything, they will all leave,' I have already lost. The problem of the media is always to imagine the worst. The problem of the manager is always to imagine the best."

16) [After the success of the Great Britain team at the Olympics] "I didn't know the English were good at swimming. I have been in this country for 12 years and I haven't seen a swimming pool."

17) "The biggest things in life have been achieved by people who, at the start, we would have judged crazy. And yet if they had not had these crazy ideas the world would have been more stupid."

18) "There is no better psychological education than growing up in a pub when you are five or six because you meet all different people and hear how cruel they can be. You hear the way they talk to each other like saying 'You're a liar.' And from an early age you get a practical psychological education into the minds of people."

19) "I started at 33 as a manager and sometimes I felt I wouldn't survive. Physically I was sick."

20) "Politically, I am for efficiency. Economically first. Until the 1980s the world was divided into two, people were either communist or capitalist. The communist model does not work economically, we all realised that, but the capitalist model in the modern world also looks to be unsustainable. You cannot ignore individual interests, but I believe the world evolves slowly. The last 30 years have brought a minimum amount of money for everybody in the west, the next step, politically, would be a maximum amount of money earned by everybody."

21) "As long as no-one scored, it was always going to be close."

22) "If I asked you who was the best team in the world you would say Brazil. And do they play good football? Yes. Which club won everything last year? Barcelona. Good football. I am not against being pragmatic, because it is pragmatic to make a good pass, not a bad one. If I have the ball, what do I do with it? Could anybody argue that a bad solution like just kicking it away is pragmatic just because, sometimes, it works by accident?"

23) [In response to Sir Alex Ferguson's claim that he possessed the best team in the league despite Arsenal winning the title in 2002] "Everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife at home."

24) "Ferguson should calm down. Maybe it would have been better if he had put us against a wall and shot us."

25) "He [Ferguson] doesn't interest me and doesn't matter to me at all. I will never answer to any provocation from him any more."

26) [To journalists regarding Ferguson] "What I don't understand is that he does what he wants and you are all at his feet."

27) "Ferguson's out of order. He has lost all sense of reality. He is going out looking for a confrontation, then asking the person he is confronting to apologise. He's pushed the cork in a bit far this time."

28) [Upon being asked if he had received the apology that Sir Alex had announced he had sent to Wenger] "No. Perhaps he sent it by horse."

29) "I'm ready to take the blame for all the problems of English football if that is what he wants."

30) [After Jose Royes announced he wanted to leave Arsenal] "It's like you wanting to marry Miss World and she doesn't want you. I can try to help you but if she does not want to marry you what can I do?"

31) "Despite the global warming, England is still not warm enough for him."

32) "Gerard Houllier's thoughts on the matter [international football] echo mine. He thinks that what the national coaches are doing is like taking the car from his garage without even asking permission. They will then use the car for ten days and abandon it in a field without any petrol left in the tank. We then have to recover it, but it is broken down. Then a month later they will come to take your car again, and for good measure you're expected to be nice about it."

33) "Gerard is an open-minded and passionate man. I am the opposite: stubborn and stupid. But sometimes stupid behaviour makes you win."

34) "I do not think about the national team too much because footballistically it is not of too much interest."

35) [On losing the lead of the league in November 2004] "It's like a child who is used to having ice cream whenever he wants. When it doesn't come when he asks he tends to get confused and nervous."

36) "Any man who concentrates his energies totally on one passion is, by definition, someone who hurts the people close to him."

37) "We were considering him [Ruud van Nistelrooy] and Francis Jeffers and, in the end, we went for Jeffers."

38) "Maybe people will be surprised that I have signed an Englishman but I looked at his quality and not his passport. Francis is a 'fox in the box'."

39) [On Ruud van Nistelrooy in 2003] "He can only cheat."

40) "I think in England you eat too much sugar and meat and not enough vegetables."

41) "I lived for two years in Japan and it was the best diet I ever had. The whole way of life there is linked to health. Their diet is basically boiled vegetables, fish and rice. No fat, no sugar. You notice when you live there that there are no fat people."

42) "One of the things I discovered in Japan was from watching sumo wrestling. At the end you can never tell who has won the fight, and who has lost, because they do not show their emotion because it could embarrass the loser. It is unbelievable. That is why I try to teach my team politeness. It is only here in England that everybody pokes their tongue out when they win."

43) "What's really dreadful is the diet in Britain. The whole day you drink tea with milk and coffee with milk and cakes. If you had a fantasy world of what you shouldn't eat in sport, it's what you eat here."

44) "If you do not believe you can do it then you have no chance at all."

45) [On Arsenal's recruitment policy] "If I give you a good wine, you will see how it tastes and after you ask where it comes from."

46) "I don't kick dressing room doors or the cat or even football journalists."

47) "At some clubs success is accidental. At Arsenal it is compulsory."

48) "Nobody has enough talent to live on talent alone. Even when you have talent, a life without work goes nowhere."

49) "You have to be a masochist to be an international manager."

50) "For me, when you change more than three players in a team, you always take a technical risk because you change the deep structure of the team and the deep balance of the team, mentally and technically."

51) "We do not buy superstars. We make them."

52) "The real revelation of a player's character is not in his social life but in how he plays. In my social life I can hide my real personality."

53) [After Martin Taylor snapped Eduardo's leg in half] "The guy should never ever play football again."

54) [On how long Tomas Rosicky would be ruled out for at the start of his 18-month recuperation] "Days not weeks."

55) "I am in a job where you always look in front of you. Unfortunately, the older you get, the less distance there is in front of you."

56) "We try to go a different way that, for me, is respectable. Briefly, these are the basics. I thought: "We are building a stadium, so I will get young players in early so I do not find myself exposed on the transfer market without the money to compete with the others. I build a team, and we compensate by creating a style of play, by creating a culture at the club because the boy comes in at 16 or 17 and when they go out they have a supplement of soul, of love for the club, because they have been educated together. The people you meet at college from 16 to 20, often those are the relationships in life that keep going. That, I think, will give us strength that other clubs will not have."

57) "What motivates me is an ideal of thinking about how football should be. And to try to get near this way of playing. And to try to improve all aspects of my personality that can help me get near this ideal way of playing football."

58) [On Emmanuel Adebayor's stamp on Robin van Persie] "I watched it when I got home and it looked very bad. You ask 100 people, 99 will say it's very bad and the hundredth will be Mark Hughes."

59) "I did not see the incident."

60) "I do not like to make a fuss, it'll just be another day. I want to stay 59."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 25, 2009, 04:36:10 PM
Jaysus that was crap from Robert Green.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 25, 2009, 05:09:22 PM
2-0 at HT, RVP and Gallas header.

West Ham don't look too hot right now. (Cue a Carlton Cole hat trick)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on October 25, 2009, 05:18:03 PM
Some transformation from West Ham this season and last season. Nothing going right for them and relying too heavily on Cole. Arsenal in great form at the minute too after A few early season slip ups. Have the talent there, but not sure if they can sustain it for a full season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 25, 2009, 05:57:15 PM
Worse goalkeeping from Mannone - 2-1 now - Arsenal hanging on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 25, 2009, 05:59:02 PM
2-2

Typical Arsenal - coasting, step off the gas and can't get it back again when they concede one.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 25, 2009, 06:04:30 PM
Flip - harsh on Wham - Cesc fouls Parker, and Parker gets sent off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on October 25, 2009, 06:12:54 PM
F**k. Turned it over as Arse were coasting. Great weekend  :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 25, 2009, 06:24:30 PM
Same again as midweek - pissing all over the opposition, relax and then bang. Fortunately Utd also lost and with Chelsea looking dodgy losing to Villa and Wigan and struggling v Stoke, this could be a close season. The pity of not wining today is that after beating Spuds on Saturday morning coming, the Goons would've been top for a few hours.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on October 25, 2009, 07:20:42 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 25, 2009, 06:24:30 PM
Same again as midweek - pissing all over the opposition, relax and then bang. Fortunately Utd also lost and with Chelsea looking dodgy losing to Villa and Wigan and struggling v Stoke, this could be a close season. The pity of not wining today is that after beating Spuds on Saturday morning coming, the Goons would've been top for a few hours.
....but turned it around with a thumping win against Blackburn.... ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 25, 2009, 07:31:26 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on October 25, 2009, 07:20:42 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 25, 2009, 06:24:30 PM
Same again as midweek - pissing all over the opposition, relax and then bang. Fortunately Utd also lost and with Chelsea looking dodgy losing to Villa and Wigan and struggling v Stoke, this could be a close season. The pity of not wining today is that after beating Spuds on Saturday morning coming, the Goons would've been top for a few hours.
....but turned it around with a thumping win against Blackburn.... ::)

Nope, still big question marks over Chelsea away from home. Beating Blackburn 12-0 at home doesn't address that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on October 27, 2009, 04:27:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 25, 2009, 07:31:26 PM
Quote from: Eastern_Pride on October 25, 2009, 07:20:42 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 25, 2009, 06:24:30 PM
Same again as midweek - pissing all over the opposition, relax and then bang. Fortunately Utd also lost and with Chelsea looking dodgy losing to Villa and Wigan and struggling v Stoke, this could be a close season. The pity of not wining today is that after beating Spuds on Saturday morning coming, the Goons would've been top for a few hours.
....but turned it around with a thumping win against Blackburn.... ::)

Nope, still big question marks over Chelsea away from home. Beating Blackburn 12-0 at home doesn't address that.
That may be so but they still have the 2nd best(joint) away record behind Tottenham in the Premiership...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/table/default.stm

Chelsea and United are still in pole position to win the unless Arsenal can learn to be consistent, (which, admittedly will not take too long) there'sa two team race for the title like the days of Mourinho and Avram....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 07:08:39 PM
Liverpool: Cavalieri, Degen, Insua, Skrtel, Kyrgiakos, Plessis, Spearing, Babel, Kuyt, Voronin, Ngog. Subs: Reina, Aquilani, Benayoun, Darby, Dossena, Eccleston, Ayala.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 07:17:48 PM
Arsenal: Fabianski, Gilbert, Senderos, Silvestre, Gibbs, Merida, Eastmond, Ramsey, Nasri, Bendtner, Eduardo Subs: Szczesny, Bartley, Coquelin, Frimpong, Randall, Sunu, Watt
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 07:18:46 PM
Some bench for Arsenal!! Who the feck are they?

And Eastmond???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 07:50:49 PM
http://www.ustream.tv/channel-popup/foot-streams
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 07:59:03 PM
Some beautiful football from the unknowns early on with little end product. I'd worry a little about Babel's pace.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:01:58 PM
Nasri looks up for it. Bamboozles 3 Liverpool players on edge of box, hacked down and then hits a Mayo-esque free.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:03:49 PM
Gibbs with a very shaky start. Babel has roasted him twice and caught out attacking once.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on October 28, 2009, 08:07:43 PM
SCREAMER THAT ONE
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:08:32 PM
What a goal. Some boy scored it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:13:06 PM
Amusing commentary as usual on the Guardian:

Kuyt, arriving late 15 yards out, gets his body into a very awkward position – he looked a Rik Mayall character dry-humping fresh air – and sidefoots a volley wide of the far post.

"The likes of creaky 32-year-old Silvestre and the ancient 26-year-old Eduardo have pushed the average age of the starting line-up up to a staggering 22.4 years. Wasn't last year's side full of 16-year-olds and random schoolchildren that happened to be hanging around the Emirates at the time?"

Arsenal are passing the ball round pretty well, although without Wilshere and Vela there is less excitement about the game. There's always Aaron Ramsey I suppose. Good old Aaron Ramsey.

Voronin charges down Fabianski's clearance, but the ball flies safely for a throw-in. Voronin, amusingly, had injured himself in the unusual act of doing something and will probably need to go off.

"I can't help suspecting you've made up the names on the Arsenal bench," says Hugh Barker. "Coquelin? Frimpong? Really??"

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:14:37 PM
Can't see Liverpool not scoring. Some dodgy Arsenal defending from Senderos.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:16:18 PM
Oooh, that was even better from Liverpool. 2 cracking goals. 1-1.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on October 28, 2009, 08:18:00 PM
Have to watch it on the stream, got thrown off the TV so the daughter can watch Twitchers 2
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:18:24 PM
Babel does extremely well to cushion a long, angled pass on the corner of the six-yard box. He then lays it back to Voronin, whose first touch is Dawson's-Creek-conversation-heavy and allows Senderos to clear easily. Voronin, sadly for Liverpool, looks okay to carry on now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on October 28, 2009, 08:21:19 PM
2 very good strikes!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:21:34 PM
Liverpool look like they could cut Arsenal open. The Gunmen seem to attack en masse and awol for the breakaway. Eduardo hardly touched leather.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:23:47 PM
"Johan Cruyff used to say he enjoyed hitting the post as much as scoring," says Mike Shallcross. "He loved the sound. This might be why he is the greatest player of all time but doesn't have a World Cup winner's medal." It is a fiercely erotic sound.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:25:01 PM
Why are goals that go in off the woodwork so much more rewarding? It's like the best foreplay ever.

"I believe the 'best foreplay ever' involves woodwork, a stick of butter and the smooth sounds of Kenny G," says Colin Greer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:26:19 PM
Fcuk Arsenal play some lovely football at times.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:28:03 PM
Merida goal - http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=3254030
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:32:17 PM
Insua equaliser - http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=3254070
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 28, 2009, 08:32:29 PM
how any of those shots not go in
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:33:53 PM
39 min Voronin is utter garbage.

41 min See 39 min.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:36:13 PM
That was enjoyable. 1-1 at HT.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:39:59 PM
Bendtner is some yoke. Defending on the edge of the box, playing suicide short passes, storming along the sideline, swiping in the box. Don't know what to make of him. Sort of like the older lad who is isn't all that good but bigger and stronger than the rest.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:52:13 PM
Liverpool's bench may hold the key. Dwarfs Arsenal's in terms of experience.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:54:00 PM
"The thing about Voronin is that he looks like he'd be good in Europe. Not the Champions League obviously, I mean the 1980s c**k-rock band"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 28, 2009, 08:55:27 PM
another great goal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 08:58:58 PM
Up Bender.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 28, 2009, 09:01:58 PM
got this the other morning, great value for under £15.00  23-Arshavin-Dark-Blue-Soccer-Jersey (http://www.lightinthebox.com/09-10-Arsenal-Away-No-23-Arshavin-Dark-Blue-Soccer-Jersey---Short-Kit--GZZQH559-_p55008.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 09:07:04 PM
Sort of want Voronin to score. Comes in for some flak.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on October 28, 2009, 09:08:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 09:07:04 PM
Sort of want Voronin to score. Comes in for some flak.

He doesent get the flak for nowt
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on October 28, 2009, 09:12:33 PM
Voronin has to be one of the worst players to have played in the premiership.

Nasri is a classy player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 09:19:06 PM
Arsenal sitting back too early. Go for the juggler. Always hated jugglers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 09:22:44 PM
Good performance from Barney Eastwood's lad. Who's Watt?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 09:26:29 PM
Jaysus - why can Arsenal defenders not hit Row Z.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 09:31:34 PM
Arsene with poppy. And him a French German.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 28, 2009, 09:32:05 PM
What odds a late Liverpool equaliser?

Hard to believe Ramsey is only 18  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 28, 2009, 09:33:35 PM
that was lucky
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 09:34:53 PM
Coquelin on. That's what the oul blade next to be would've called the budley. Or 'tacklin' sometimes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on October 28, 2009, 09:39:55 PM
Great save by Senderos
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 28, 2009, 09:41:21 PM
thats another day out for us
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 28, 2009, 09:41:45 PM
Great result for the young goons, enjoyed that....

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2009, 09:44:22 PM
Thoroughly enjoyable. Down the line you know that they'll never be able to compete with Chelsea who play next to full strength or Utd who keep the big guns on the bench the closer they get to the final.

Good win and decent performances from Barney's lad, Nasri, Gibbs eventually who nullified Kuyt and Bendtner in parts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2009, 11:31:52 AM
Good ole Arsene:

QuoteArsene Wenger is a man who knows how to celebrate.

Following Arsenal's Carling Cup victory over Liverpool (20 team changes from the weekend's teams between them), the Gunners boss added insult to injury for Rafael Benitez with a cheeky double-whammy.

Wenger revealed that the Gunners had taken a look at Alberto Aquilani - who came on to make his Liverpool debut last night three months and infinite column inches after joining them - but dismissed signing him for fears that he was a crock and, well, not very good.

"We were not interested in Aquilani. He didn't play a lot last year but we felt we didn't need someone in his position this year. When you see our youngsters play so well, you understand why we don't sign players. We're only in the market for extra special quality."

He then followed that up reserving praise for Philippe Senderos and Mikael Silvestre, surely the most maligned defensive pairing this side of Coloccini-Cacapa.

ED is not sure which will annoy Benitez more - casually glancing over and sneering in contempt at your £20m signing upon whose shoulders so much of your season depends, or hailing the contribution of a defender (Senderos) who denied said player a debut goal by blocking his overhead kick with both hands.

The upshot of the result - apart from having another clutch of Arsenal kids to rave about before most of them fail to deliver - is that Liverpool are the only big four side not in the last eight of this year's competition. In fact, the whole quarter-final line-up is made up of Premier League sides as Manchester City and Chelsea also won last night.

Ten years ago, Bolton and Tranmere were in the quarter-finals of what was then the Worthington Cup, and the year after Crystal Palace, Sheffield Wednesday and Birmingham city all reached that stage.

The season before last is the only other time in the past decade that the top flight has dominated the League Cup's last eight. Counting back from this year, here's a look at the lower league sides to make the last eight:

2008-09 Derby

2007-08 All Premier League

2006-07 Wycombe, Southend

2005-06 Doncaster

2004-05 Watford

2003-04 West Brom

2002-03 Wigan (L1), Sheffield United, Crystal Palace

2001-02 Sheffield Wednesday, Watford

2000-01 Crystal Palace, Sheffield Wednesday, Birmingham

1999-00 Bolton, Tranmere

So, is this a sign that the big clubs are taking the League Cup more seriously these days or, as Jim White argues, the gap in quality is so huge that even a Premier League youth or reserve side is far superior to a Championship first team?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mortified on October 29, 2009, 12:59:40 PM
I taught Ramsay impresses and in my opinion Bendtner is showing better than Eduardo. Merida can hopefully push on now after super goal last night.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2009, 03:10:49 PM
Eduardo was poor enough last night.

Bendtner comes in for some abuse but he worked his nuts off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: High Wide and Handsome on October 29, 2009, 03:17:41 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 29, 2009, 03:10:49 PM
Eduardo was poor enough last night.

Bendtner comes in for some abuse but he worked his nuts off.

was a good team performance last night but still dont rate bendtner and what the f**k do we have to do to get a decent keeper?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on October 30, 2009, 04:21:50 PM
is it true the Spuds haven't beat Arsenal this decade in the league?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2009, 04:38:31 PM
is it true the Spuds haven't beat Arsenal this decade in the league?

On this thread we like to think Millenium  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on October 30, 2009, 04:48:35 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 30, 2009, 04:21:50 PM
is it true the Spuds haven't beat Arsenal this decade in the league?

Bí cúramach, we don't want to be like the United fans in the run up to the Liverpool boobytrap last weekend.

Spurs are obviously hot favourites this time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 31, 2009, 12:09:09 AM
Wenger's on 997 points in charge of Arsenal.

Spurs haven't won at Arsenal since 1993

Spurs haven't beaten Arsenal in the league since 1999

Surely.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on October 31, 2009, 12:13:50 AM
I hope Arsenal hammer Spurs, just so I can hear Harry Redknapp whinging about something as usual.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on October 31, 2009, 02:09:09 AM
 :D :D And you say i talk shit  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 31, 2009, 08:47:09 AM
There is very little for Tottenham to celebrate in their recent rivalry with Arsenal, but Harry Redknapp demonstrated yesterday, that does not mean you cannot still wind up the old enemy. The Spurs manager claimed that Arsenal were not real contenders for the Premier League title because their young team would be no match for the experience of Chelsea and Manchester United.

Meanwhile, Arsène Wenger was pointing out that if Spurs ever wish to be considered Arsenal's equals then all they have to do is win three Premier League titles and qualify for the Champions League 12 years in a row. By his demeanour, you would not have guessed that the Arsenal manager expects that to happen soon.

The knackered old cliché goes that in a derby game the formbook goes out the proverbial window. Well, not in the north London derby. In north London, the formbook says that Arsenal do not lose to Spurs and that has rung true for the last 10 years, since Spurs last beat Arsenal in the league in November 1999.

Having drawn both league games with Arsenal last season, the first a thrilling comeback to 4-4 in October, Redknapp is better qualified than most of his predecessors to cast a critical eye over Wenger's team. His assessment of them was polite but it hinted at a distrust of the principles of youth that Wenger has adhered to, as well as a frostiness towards the manager in charge of them.

"They [Arsenal] are potential winners but personally I don't think they will win it, that's only my opinion," Redknapp said. "I'm not writing them off, they've got a good chance. But I think the winners will come from Chelsea or Manchester United. I've been wrong a million times before, I could well be wrong again, but I see those two.

"I still think that Chelsea are powerful. They are men, you just feel they have that power. I think they will take all the beating. Even the other night [against Bolton in the Carling Cup], they made loads of changes. They bring people in and look at the people who came into the team. They're proper players, ain't they?

"I don't think it's a soft centre [at Arsenal], I think it's maybe a little bit of a lack of experience still. They're not an experienced team, it's still a young team, a fantastic young team. But I just feel Chelsea and United, they have players who have been there and done it all and been the full course in the championship race. And Liverpool, I'm not writing them off but I do fancy one of the two."

Redknapp has faced Wenger 23 times as a manager and beaten him just once, as West Ham manager, in October 1999. Nothing he said yesterday suggested that the two men enjoy much of a bond apart from a post-match glass of wine. "He helped me at Portsmouth when he loaned me [Armand] Traoré," Redknapp said. "I find him OK." He pointed out that it was Wenger's scouts, not him, who was finding all those bright young players, "No disrespect but Arsène isn't standing on Hackney Marshes is he?"

Today Redknapp has key players missing. Aaron Lennon and Luka Modric are injured, Jermain Defoe is suspended and much will depend on Peter Crouch and David Bentley. Last October, Bentley scored a brilliant goal at the Emirates but his fall from grace since then means that is his only league goal for the club. This is as good a chance as any to resurrect what little, if anything, is left of his Spurs career.

Bentley used to be regarded as the superstar that Wenger wrongly let go. Now he is the waster that Arsène was right to get shot of. The truth is probably somewhere in between: not quite good enough for Arsenal but, if he gets his act together, he should have a decent career. There was too much praise too soon for the 25-year-old or, as Wenger said yesterday: "When I was playing a guy had to play well for five years and then eventually someone would say 'He's not a bad player'."

As for Robbie Keane's claim that the Spurs squad was stronger than Arsenal's, Wenger tried very hard not to pretend he was not annoyed by it and almost succeeded. "Let people talk. There's nothing else to say," he said. "What is important is how we play. I don't share that opinion at all." Given that it was the week that Fran Merida, Kieran Gibbs, Craig Eastmond et al knocked Liverpool out of the Carling Cup, the timing did not exactly help Keane's point.

On the relative strengths of the two clubs, Wenger was contemptuous without ever being impolite. Asked the nebulous old question of whether Spurs would ever be considered a bigger club than Arsenal, he responded with his own question. "How do you measure the dimension of a club? Success. Exactly. So if you look at success historically they have a lot of work to do. We have been in the Champions League 12 consecutive years so once they have done that they can say, of course, that they are similar."

The clue is in the word similar. It was a more diplomatic way of rephrasing Sir Alex Ferguson's promise that Manchester City would never be bigger than his club in his lifetime. "You can never say 'Never'," Wenger said. "They have the potential, the supporters, they are a big club. But what comes next is the consistency of achievement. At the moment nobody would deny that Arsenal is in front of them."

There have been 13 managers in charge of Spurs since Wenger took over. During that time they have tried to replicate his system by employing the former Arsenal scout Damien Comolli as their director of football. They are building a new stadium that, but for one stand, is virtually identical to the Emirates. Yes, Spurs have done their best to beat their old enemy at their own game but if they really want to put Arsenal in their place they need to beat them today.

Tottenham's decade of pain: How Arsenal won upper hand

*Tottenham's run of misery

19 Mar 2000 Arsenal 2 (Armstrong og, Henry) Spurs 1 (Armstrong)

18 Dec 2000 Spurs 1 (Rebrov) Arsenal 1 (Vieira)

31 Mar 2001 Arsenal 2 (Pires, Henry) Spurs 0

17 Nov 2001 Spurs 1 (Poyet) Arsenal 1 (Pires)

6 Apr 2002 Arsenal 2 (Ljungberg, Lauren pen) Spurs 1 (Sheringham pen)

16 Nov 2002 Arsenal 3 (Henry, Ljungberg, Wiltord) Spurs 0

15 Dec 2002 Spurs 1 (Ziege) Arsenal 1 (Pires pen)

8 Nov 2003 Arsenal 2 (Pires, Ljungberg) Spurs 1 (Anderton)

25 Apr 2004 Spurs 2 (Redknapp, Keane pen) Arsenal 2 (Vieira, Pires)

13 Nov 2004 Spurs 4 (Naybet, Defoe, King, Kanoute) Arsenal 5 (Henry, Lauren pen, Vieira, Ljungberg, Pires)

25 Apr 2005 Arsenal 1 (Reyes) Spurs 0

29 Oct 2005 Spurs 1 (King) Arsenal 1 (Pires)

22 Apr 2006 Arsenal 1 (Henry) Spurs 1 (Keane)

2 Dec 2006 Arsenal 3 (Adebayor, Gilberto 2 pens) Spurs 0

21 Apr 2007 Spurs 2 (Keane, Jenas) Arsenal 2 (Toure, Adebayor)

15 Sep 2007 Spurs 1 (Bale) Arsenal 3 (Adebayor 2, Fabregas)

22 Dec 2007 Arsenal 2 (Adebayor, Bendtner) Spurs 1 (Berbatov)

29 Oct 2008 Arsenal 4 (Silvestre, Gallas, Adebayor, Van Persie) Spurs 4 (Bentley, Bent, Jenas, Lennon)

8 Feb 2009 Spurs 0 Arsenal 0

*Games 19 Arsenal wins 10 Draws 9

Five Tottenham near-misses

*18 Dec 2000: Spurs 1 Arsenal 1

Sergei Rebrov put Spurs ahead and Neil Sullivan performed heroics in goal before Patrick Vieria rescued a point.

*8 Nov 2003: Arsenal 2 Spurs 1

Darren Anderton gave Spurs the lead for over an hour before Robert Pires and Ljungberg turned things around.

*29 Oct 2005: Spurs 1 Arsenal 1

A Ledley King header raised home hopes, only for Pires to level matters late on.

*22 Apr 2006: Arsenal 1 Spurs 1

Thierry Henry's equalised with six minutes left after Robbie Keane's opener.

*22 Dec 2007: Arsenal 2 Spurs 1

Keane missed a penalty as substitute Nicklas Bendtner scored the winner from the bench. James Mariner
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on October 31, 2009, 12:43:35 PM
City again in the Carling Cup.

Could be a great game, given what went on during and after the last game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on October 31, 2009, 12:56:42 PM
Should Bentley have been sent off already after 8 minutes? Deliberate hand ball and a shocking tackle on Vermalen, both of which he escaped without a booking.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 31, 2009, 12:57:59 PM
QuoteShould Bentley have been sent off already after 8 minutes? Deliberate hand ball and a shocking tackle on Vermalen, both of which he escaped without a booking.

Yep of course he should have but Premiership refs aren't the best around.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on October 31, 2009, 01:05:55 PM
He's let alot go so far. Maybe he thinks big derby's like this be spoiled by an early sending off. But if he lets stuff like that go early on, players will push the boundaries and could end up being a dirty game with bad tackles throughout.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on October 31, 2009, 01:33:27 PM
Gooners creaming them! :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 31, 2009, 01:38:07 PM
Spuds have defended well but Arsenal were controlling the game pretty well although not creating a whole and those two sucker punches were delicious...

Spuds long ball tactics not working, they need to move Keane up front and get Bently and Huddlestone of the paddock, in fact their entire midfield has been dire.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on October 31, 2009, 01:39:44 PM
50 seconds between the 2 goals hitting the net, 41:52 and 42:42.

Great skill from Cesc for the 2nd goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 31, 2009, 02:07:22 PM
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on October 31, 2009, 02:08:15 PM
Controversial 3rd, but great advantage played by Clattenberg. He gave a similar advantage in City v Arsenal earlier in year for Adebayor's goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on October 31, 2009, 02:33:37 PM
Will Spurs finally accept they are a mid table team ;D ;D
And here comes Alan Hutton into the mix - bet Fearon has just smashed his tv ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 31, 2009, 02:47:43 PM
Ole!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 31, 2009, 02:48:54 PM
Ole!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 31, 2009, 02:49:37 PM
The Spuds bench really made the difference  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 31, 2009, 02:50:27 PM
Saw Hardstation score a goal like Fabregas's, albeit 5-a-side pitch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 31, 2009, 02:51:51 PM
Flabbyarse goal - http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=3260446
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on October 31, 2009, 03:12:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 31, 2009, 02:49:37 PM
The Spuds bench really made the difference  ;D

really came back to bite him in the arse!!
great win but that almunia bollocks would put years on ya- he is a liability
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: centre 3/4s on October 31, 2009, 09:26:21 PM
Totally agree he gives me the shites too! hope he does not claim a save from bentley free kick he could of caght it in his shorts ffs..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on November 01, 2009, 03:42:55 PM
The spuds would do well not to provoke a deadly arsenal outfit but it appears they are too stupid to keep quiet.

this proves that Spurs, although improving have a way to go to break into the top 4 and Arsenal play the most attractive brand of soccer anywhere, they are a great team to watch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on November 02, 2009, 12:53:40 AM
Mark Clattenburg's "great" decision to play advantage while the linesman was waving his flag may have been justified by Arsenals goal. It nevertheless can not cover up the fact that he ignored both of Bentley's (hand ball & clumsy tackle) and the very aggresive tackle on Eduardo. The challenge on Eduardo should still have received a booking after the goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 02, 2009, 12:56:00 AM

Van Persie makes a mockery of Spurs' class pretensions

It was 70 minutes before the "Olés" started echoing round the stadium, but when they did there was an extra glee greeting every Arsenal touch, an audible rebuke to neighbours who had been unwise enough to suggest they might be approaching the standards set by Arsène Wenger these past 13 years. Five minutes earlier Tottenham's captain, Robbie Keane, had been hauled off, presumably regretting his words earlier in the week about the respective strength of the squads; the performance of Arsenal's understudies in seeing off Liverpool in the Carling Cup had already provided sufficient evidence to the contrary.

The boy wonders have played their part when required in Arsenal's run of nine successive home wins in all competitions, in which 29 goals have now hit the opposition net. Had their elders and supposed betters not taken so long to find the right gear yesterday, the average would have soared above three per game and we would have been checking for Tottenham's biggest derby defeat in recent times.

For 42 minutes, as Harry Redknapp pointed out with considerable frustration, there seemed no possibility of any such outcome. In that period the visiting bench were more concerned by the spectators behind them – Sir Alex Ferguson has complained about the same thing in the past – than anything happening on the pitch.

When Keane latched on to a downward header from Peter Crouch in almost the first threatening attack by either side, there had been promise of better things. That tactic, limited as it was, worked successfully enough, for Crouch was still winning headers right at the finish and William Gallas would have required a lift from Thomas Vermaelen in the manner of a rugby line-out to stop him. But without the attacking talents of Aaron Lennon, Luka Modric and Jermain Defoe, there was little else to offer.

Further back, the hustlers supposed to be shaking up Arsenal's dainty midfield passing failed to make an impression, physical or otherwise, and a ponderous defence always looked likely to be exposed by pace and craft; notably that of Robin van Persie, who is becoming a mobile modern centre-forward of rare ability. His two goals were his seventh and eighth in the past nine games.

Concerned by five matches without a clean sheet, and especially the late collapse at West Ham last weekend that cost two points, Wenger instructed Alex Song and Abou Diaby to sit tight, freeing Cesc Fabregas to weave his magic wherever he wished. Scoring the second goal 11 seconds after the kick-off following Van Persie's first, in this of all games, added another little tale to the Arsenal story.

"In the first half-hour we couldn't find our usual fluency and played a little with the handbrake on," Wenger admitted. After that, it was top gear. "We scored the first goal and straight away took advantage of their shock for the second," he added. "It was important not to concede a goal, as that could have caused a panic, but we had a good defensive performance and the back five were very efficient."

That included Manuel Almunia, back in goal for the first time since 12 September, who got away with a couple of slight fumbles and made one excellent save from David Bentley's free-kick in the second half.

So the two Manchester clubs are still the only ones to have lowered the Arsenal flag this season. Whether or not the Londoners find City's full team too strong when the young Gunners return to Eastlands in the Carling Cup quarter-final, Wenger has always believed more strongly than most – including Redknapp – that they can win the League for the first time in six years. "I have said so since the first day of the season and I'm not going to change after today," he said. "We have the attitude and spirit in the squad and that's what we want to show."

The handbrake, as he said, was on for a while in an opening 40 minutes of only a couple of chances. Heurelho Gomes pulled off a good save from Fabregas from the first of them and Van Persie wasted the second before contriving an opportunistic opening goal.

Bacary Sagna's low cross following a throw-in on the right ought to have been a defender's ball but Van Persie stole in ahead of Ledley King to squeeze it past Gomes. Straight from the kick-off Eduardo, who was on early for the injured Nicklas Bendtner, dispossessed Wilson Palacios. With Spurs in shock Fabregas veered through three challenges and ran on to score.

The whole mood of the afternoon changed and could only have been altered by Tottenham claiming the next goal. Bentley's free-kick was their one opportunity to do so but within 60 seconds of Almunia turning it over the bar the referee, Mark Clattenburg, played a good advantage, allowing Sagna – once he had stopped and then started again – to supply Van Persie again, this time for a tap-in.

Thereafter it was all mocking and gloating at Spurs' expense, of which there would have been more if Eduardo, clean through, and the substitute Emmanuel Eboué, with a free header, had done what they should.

Wenger, having reached 1,000 points in the Premier League with yesterday's three, summed up: "I think it's been a fantastic week for the club. We beat Liverpool and Tottenham with the style that is now our style and I am very proud of that."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 02, 2009, 01:00:38 AM
Van Persie eager to face Adebayor in Carling Cup tie

Robin van Persie has risked reigniting his feud with former Arsenal team-mate Emmanuel Adebayor after it was announced that the two will face each other in the Carling Cup quarter-finals early next month.

Arsenal will travel to Manchester City at the beginning of December in a rematch of the fiery encounter at Eastlands in September, which saw Adebayor receive a three-match ban for stamping on Van Persie's face, a challenge the Arsenal star described as "mindless and malicious".

When asked about the Carling Cup tie, Van Persie expressed excitement about the possibility of going head-to-head with the City striker again, and hinted that there was unfinished business between the pair.

He admitted he will ask Arsène Wenger to pick him for the match at Eastlands. "Nice. I want to play in that. I'd love to play. If the boss decides to let me play, I'm happy," Van Persie said. Wenger, the Arsenal manager, traditonally selects a side full of youngsters for Carling Cup matches.

Meanwhile, Adebayor has spoken out again about the incident during his side's 4-2 victory on 12 September, in which he also controversially celebrated scoring City's third goal by sliding on his knees in front of the Arsenal supporters. In contrast to Van Persie's comments, the Togo striker said there was no bad blood between the two and apologised for his actions that day.

When asked if he regretted the clash with Van Persie, Adebayor said: "Of course, yes. I saw Robin in the tunnel [after the game] and I told him: 'I'm very sorry for what happened.' He's like: 'Why, why you do that?' and I told him: 'Robin, I don't know, that does happen, I'm sorry.' And at the time he told me 'OK it's fine'."

On his goal celebration, which outraged Arsenal fans and led to ground security officials having to stop supporters charging onto the pitch to confront him, Adebayor said he was repentant but it was insults from the away support that led him to act that way. He said: "When I come to the stadium, for me it was a special game because you're playing against your former team and was coming up against people who were like brothers.

"When I get to the tunnel and see my friends, I try to shake their hands... but they don't want to shake my hand and it was a shock. I felt very hurt. After that I thought – OK, that's part of life and I just have to deal with it. After that, when I get on the pitch and when I hear some singing insulting my dad, insulting my mum, I think, we can't take everything. We are only human beings. We have all got our limit. You can insult me, you can judge me on the pitch, that's normal. But don't touch my family, I love them more than everything on this earth. So when I heard fans singing, insulting my family, yes, then my mind was like, I had to respond. I don't have a choice.

"I cannot go into the fans and start shouting, I cannot do anything, better way to respond is to score a goal against them. And that is what I managed to do. At that time, emotions took over me and I have done it. And you can see that I'm not insulting anyone, I just calm down, sliding on my knee, showing them that yes, you insult me, you sack me from your team, I go, and now this means I'm not the bad player you think I was when I was playing for you."

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/van-persie-eager-to-face-adebayor-in-carling-cup-tie-1813216.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: RedBolts on November 02, 2009, 12:27:15 PM
Good win on Saturday. Looked dodgy for most of the first half (in that i thought we might struggle to open Spurs up), but two goals in literally 11 seconds took care of the game. Would be a little worried at how were subdued for large parts of the game, with Arshavin particularly quiet, but to come out with a 3-0 against Spurs despite that is very satisfying.

I'm not too sure about spurs assertions that they could take over from Arsenal in the prem. I don't expect them to compete significantly for a top 4 finish. They barely have enough to finish top 6. Players like Jenas, Bentley, Lennon, Assou Ekoto (awful player) etc. leave them basically spineless. Fabregas' goal showed this spectacularly. Great finish btw.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2009, 08:28:52 PM
Strong team out tonight. 2-0  - Fabregas and a lovely Nasri goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2009, 08:38:24 PM
Nasri goal - http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=3270346

Fabregas goal - http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=3270318
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2009, 08:54:23 PM
3-0, Fabregas again. He's in some form.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2009, 09:13:17 PM
4-0 Diaby.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 04, 2009, 09:22:48 PM
Ole
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 04, 2009, 09:24:55 PM
Not having even an average goalie will probably cost the goons eventually :(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2009, 09:25:04 PM
4-1. Wenger out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on November 04, 2009, 09:26:38 PM
Rafa should be available soon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 04, 2009, 09:48:38 PM
did you hear Alan Smith commentating tonight. arsenal had an in-direct free kick on the corner of the SIX yard box. smith said he couldnt believe the ref let them take it when the wall werent 10 yards back ! WTF. Where were they  going to go ? The Stand ?

Love watching Arsenal though. As a neutal, they are who i would pay to see.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on November 04, 2009, 09:53:17 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 04, 2009, 09:48:38 PM
did you hear Alan Smith commentating tonight. arsenal had an in-direct free kick on the corner of the SIX yard box. smith said he couldnt believe the ref let them take it when the wall werent 10 yards back ! WTF. Where were they  going to go ? The Stand ?

Love watching Arsenal though. As a neutal, they are who i would pay to see.

Agree totally plus Fabregas is the best player around at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 04, 2009, 11:57:50 PM
just in from the pub, great game and great stout
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggysego on November 05, 2009, 12:09:37 PM
Anyone know where I can get tickets for a home Arsenal game? Doesn't matter which game. Not a member of any supporters club.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 05, 2009, 12:18:13 PM
How many?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggysego on November 05, 2009, 12:20:48 PM
Two please.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 05, 2009, 12:22:07 PM
I'm no good to you then. Only the wan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggysego on November 05, 2009, 12:24:39 PM
No worries, thanks anyway.

Do you know if there's anywhere I can get two? Ticketmaster, etc..?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 05, 2009, 12:57:46 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 05, 2009, 12:22:07 PM
I'm no good to you then. Only the wan.

If I got a membership number as well can you get two together. Boyo works with me is a regular.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on November 05, 2009, 01:02:19 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 05, 2009, 12:57:46 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 05, 2009, 12:22:07 PM
I'm no good to you then. Only the wan.

If I got a membership number as well can you get two together. Boyo works with me is a regular.

May be able to help with 2, Ziggy . PM me
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on November 05, 2009, 03:22:38 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on November 05, 2009, 12:57:46 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 05, 2009, 12:22:07 PM
I'm no good to you then. Only the wan.

If I got a membership number as well can you get two together. Boyo works with me is a regular.

Yes you can. You need the two membership numbers at the time of purchase and bring both membership cards to the ground to gain access.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 07, 2009, 06:22:19 PM
Gunners purring right now. 3-0 at HT.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on November 07, 2009, 06:30:15 PM
Lovely stuff, waiting for them to get my bet up
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 07, 2009, 06:41:19 PM
1-0 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=3277244
2-0 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=3277253
3-0 = http://www.d1g.com/video/show/?id=3277296
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 07, 2009, 07:05:01 PM
4-0 Arseshaving.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 07, 2009, 07:58:24 PM
Finished 4-1. Arsenal are like an hotel in Omagh - they don't do clean sheets.

Mesmerising at times nonetheless. Shoulda been 10-1.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on November 07, 2009, 08:32:44 PM
Playing great stuff indeed. Similar to the early season form of 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 07, 2009, 08:35:50 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on November 07, 2009, 08:32:44 PM
Playing great stuff indeed. Similar to the early season form of 2 years ago.

Yep, we've seen this so many times in the last few years. Maybe this time they've matured enough to be doing this in March. Suspect at set pieces.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on November 08, 2009, 01:11:48 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 07, 2009, 07:58:24 PM
Finished 4-1. Arsenal are like an hotel in Omagh - they don't do clean sheets.

Mesmerising at times nonetheless. Shoulda been 10-1.

down to the last one standing?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nutsy--1 on November 08, 2009, 06:51:31 PM
Good going by Arsenal at the minute i think the international break has come at a good time. Just hope we get few injuries.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on November 08, 2009, 06:53:26 PM
There isn't a better team to watch in the Premier League than Arsenal,breathtaking at times
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 14, 2009, 09:49:07 PM
Apparently RVP was stetchered off with suspected cruciate damage tonight. Might be just a rumour though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 14, 2009, 10:10:35 PM
Looked bad. Eduardo hit 2 tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 14, 2009, 10:21:15 PM
Aaron Ramsay looked the part today too. Score one, involved in all three.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 15, 2009, 08:26:13 AM
Torn ankle ligaments - depending on the tear anything between 4 - 8 weeks, although it will be the Arsenal's medical staff treating him so he's probably gone for season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mortified on November 15, 2009, 08:56:58 AM
massive loss, eduado needs to step up now with Bendtner out as well
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 15, 2009, 10:27:32 AM
Only Fabregas would be a bigger loss in terms of quality. It's not a disaster though. Eduardo, Arshavin, Vela and the returning Walcott and Bendtner means there are still options. RVP
is hardly prolific.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 15, 2009, 02:01:04 PM
Whats Arsenals fixtures before christmas?

I think its crucial that they are up round the top come the new year if they are being serious about title contenders.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on November 15, 2009, 02:21:31 PM
Quote from: stiffler on November 15, 2009, 02:01:04 PM
Whats Arsenals fixtures before christmas?

I think its crucial that they are up round the top come the new year if they are being serious about title contenders.

They have Liverpool X2, Chelsea X2, Villa X2, Everton and United over their next dozen or so games. I'd be surprised to still see them challenging after that run of games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on November 15, 2009, 02:28:30 PM
Prepare to be surprised then...Were not a 1 man team.

The goals are shared out..Asharvin will move up front and his place will be taken by Rosicky or Walcott.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on November 15, 2009, 02:33:58 PM
Remain to be convinced by Arsenal this season, think they've had a very easy start. Of their three games against top half of the league teams, they lost two.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 15, 2009, 02:40:22 PM
QuoteRemain to be convinced by Arsenal this season, think they've had a very easy start. Of their three games against top half of the league teams, they lost two.

:D

Go away, you'll find no delusion on this thread so no fishing, judgement will only be cast at the end of the season.

RVP would be a loss but the new Arsenal system allows players to slip in seamlessly 29 goals have been scored by other players. Vela will step up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on November 15, 2009, 02:44:43 PM
Quote from: AFS on November 15, 2009, 02:33:58 PM
Remain to be convinced by Arsenal this season, think they've had a very easy start. Of their three games against top half of the league teams, they lost two.

Should have won both games, Against Man U were pick pocketed..Rooney went down far too easy for that pen...Should have had City out of sight before they scored. Have them 2 tough away games outta the way and have got better from them IMO
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on November 15, 2009, 03:15:13 PM
Fair enough they should have got a result v Utd, but they didn't deserve anything v City. That was probably the best City have played this season and fully deserved the victory. Adebayor-gate took all the headlines and not Citys great play that day. There was a late flurry from Arsenal in the last 5 minutes but the game was well won before that.

RVP won't be missed that much. Great player but plenty of other good plaers to get the goals. Fabregas or Arshavin would be a bigger miss.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on November 15, 2009, 08:05:24 PM
Confirmed as torn ankle ligaments by the Dutch FA. Could be anything up to 3/4 months out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on November 17, 2009, 12:24:01 AM
Total shame to lose RVP. I think right now he is one of the top, if not the top striker in yourope. He's matured fantastically.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiffler on November 17, 2009, 07:09:39 PM
Arsharvin admits Emirates is 'Highbury Mark II'


Andrey Arshavin has risked the wrath of Gunners by labelling Liverpool fans the best in the world. 
The Arsenal striker claims Russian fans should learn how to support their team better by taking lessons from Kopites.
 
He said: "Our fans need to learn from the English football supporters, and in particular from Liverpool fans."
 
Told that Chelsea star Yuri Zhirkov was awestruck by Manchester United fans after CSKA Moscow's trip to Old Trafford, Arshavin added: "It's only because he hasn't played against Liverpool yet." 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on November 17, 2009, 08:02:56 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/8365400.stm

Looks like Gibbs out now too..Not good new's when Clichy is out as well.

Armand Traore is injured as well i think. 3 Left backs out at one time...Probably be Gallas to left back then and Senderos or Silvestre in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on November 17, 2009, 08:37:49 PM
hopefully gallas will go to left back and bring in senderos. i know he is shit but he is still a better option than silvestre.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on November 17, 2009, 08:41:48 PM
Wenger is bound to have some other left back. He seems to have a left back factory at the training ground.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 17, 2009, 11:16:31 PM
Horse placenta.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on November 18, 2009, 12:24:22 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 17, 2009, 11:16:31 PM
Horse placenta.

He's at the South American U-21 Championships.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on November 18, 2009, 01:02:05 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 17, 2009, 11:16:31 PM
Horse placenta.

Nightmare injury though, Chiellini's studs just went straight through him. I thought someone was trying to foal me when I read about this, but turns out its true. Many would say he has neigh chance of a quick recovery after deviating from manestream medicine like this. Suppose as he's been saddled with Arsenal's mane goal threat this season, he'll have to try anything to get back to where he's jockeying for a starting place again. I'm sure Wenger just hopes he's able to keep a level head without blinkers on and get through this with a minimum amount of horsing around.

Done and done.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 18, 2009, 09:54:27 AM
Your coat has been f**ked out onto the street AFS.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 19, 2009, 10:12:56 AM
After Henry's cheating last night, it's nice to see a positive side to the sport

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 19, 2009, 11:36:45 AM
No Arshavin at the World Cup next year then. I wonder will that have any impact for the better in terms of his application to the Gunners.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: TirEoghaingodeo on November 19, 2009, 02:26:37 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 19, 2009, 11:36:45 AM
No Arshavin at the World Cup next year then. I wonder will that have any impact for the better in terms of his application to the Gunners.

Priceless
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 21, 2009, 03:57:20 PM
0-0 at HT

Very lethargic so far, devoid of ideas. Sunderland in good shape, well organised and more confident that I thought.

12 months ago Arsenal would lose this. Big test now.

Walcott and Arseshaving on the bench though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 21, 2009, 04:35:58 PM
1-0 down with 15 left. Very Arsenal of old. Still fannying about.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 21, 2009, 04:59:08 PM
And that's that. Need to beat Chelsea 12-0 next week. Fairly lost out there in attack minus RVP. Eduardo didn't really slot into the striker role and they played a 6-man midfield!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 21, 2009, 05:09:30 PM
Sunderland worked their bollox off in fairness, International break didn't suit particularly having to play away from Ashburton. Need to beat Chelsea though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 21, 2009, 05:54:30 PM
That looked like a penalty at the end. Any chance the FAI could get this replayed?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on November 21, 2009, 05:55:40 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 21, 2009, 05:54:30 PM
That looked like a penalty at the end. Any chance the FAI could get this replayed?

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 21, 2009, 08:08:56 PM
Where is the Chelsea game?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 21, 2009, 08:51:04 PM
Emirates, Sunday, 4pm, Bot.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 21, 2009, 08:51:37 PM
Bollocks, Galls are playing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 21, 2009, 09:10:35 PM
heading to the home game of this fixture for the gunners after the new year, lets hope for a better result
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 21, 2009, 09:17:43 PM
Song was excellent today. Flabbyarse had one of his disinterested games. Playing Nasri, Cesc, Song, Rosicky, Eduardo and Ramsey just caused confusion. Nasri wanted to play in the Bergkamp role so that left six players stepping on each others' toes. Bit of a mess.

Actually missed Bendtner. He's just mad enough to think he's RVP and would've had a pop.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 21, 2009, 10:00:04 PM
lets hope we can bounce back with a good result on tuesday
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on November 22, 2009, 12:26:28 AM
Damn these international breaks.

We were going rightly there !!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on November 22, 2009, 12:35:01 AM
So Arsenal can be beaten? Who would have thunk it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 24, 2009, 11:23:35 PM
Although the easiest victory of the year there's still something very disjointed post-Van Persie. They still haven't found a rhythm yet and Fabregas's through-balls are finding empty space. It was so one sided that after 16 mins, Arsenal had 9 shots. The 2 they scored were fortunate.

Still the problem of so many playmakers. Cesc, Rosicky, Arshavin, Walcott, Song, Vela .... all looking to play 1-2s all night in the dee.

Walcott came on and was all speed, no end product. He must've attempted 10 crosses and none were aimed at anyone in particular. Early days for him but he's slipping from the World Cup radar which is a good thing for Arsenal as he'll have to up it now.

Song was outstanding again.

Play like that and Chelsea will just pick Arsenal off on Sunday. Eduardo rested tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on November 24, 2009, 11:30:50 PM
Gibbs broken foot
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 24, 2009, 11:33:09 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 24, 2009, 11:30:50 PM
Gibbs broken foot

Ah Jaysus. Feck sake. He did that shooting late on. Disastrous run of key injuries. Traore didn't impress last weekend.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on November 24, 2009, 11:46:55 PM
Merson wasn't too impressed with Arsenal tonight even though they won 2-0. Chelsea could go to town on them on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 24, 2009, 11:52:34 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on November 24, 2009, 11:46:55 PM
Merson wasn't too impressed with Arsenal tonight even though they won 2-0. Chelsea could go to town on them on Sunday.

For starters I cannot see Arsenal keeping a clean sheet. Even tonight, Standard had about 2 shots on goal and both hit the woodwork with Almunia well beaten. Gibbs would've kept Chelsea on the back foot. Traore won't. It's going to take a few stormers from the likes of Song, Denilson, Fabregas and the Russian. Nasri is lost. He wants to play in the middle but so seems every Arsenal player bar Senderos and Silvestre.

Pinning hopes on Eduardo but he has shown nothing lately to suggest he'll make a difference.

Arsenal must be one of the smallest teams in England, Europe, the World.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 28, 2009, 09:55:26 PM
RVP out for months now. I just smashed the wife's Denby.

Van Persie - I felt nobody could stop me

Robin Van Persie will be out for longer than expected.

After a new scan and study in hospital, it was discovered that three of the four ligaments in his right ankle were ruptured in the friendly international game between Holland and Italy.

The Arsenal striker had his ankle put in plaster yesterday [Friday] and will be operated on by one of the world's most renowned ankle specialists very soon. Van Persie is expected to be out for another four months.

During his time with the Dutch national team, and shortly after the tackle by Giorgio Chiellini in Pescara, doctors diagnosed that Van Persie had only a tear in one of the ligaments in his right ankle. He would be out for six weeks.

The healing of that kind of injury could be speeded up, according to his Dutch team-mate Orlando Engelaar and Van Persie's former team mate at PSV Eindhoven, Danko Lazovic, if he would use the skills of Mariana Kovacevic.

The player could not know the damage in his right ankle was more severe. "If I had known at the time what I know now, I would have been operated [on] immediately,'' Van Persie says in his home in Rotterdam, where he sits with his leg up and his ankle in plaster. "We have all been steered in the wrong direction.''

However the Dutch international does not regret his visit to Kovacevic.

He says: "In the area of torn muscles and partly torn ligaments she has treated players in the majority of cases with success. A number of Liverpool and Chelsea players have all benefited from her treatments. They were all back on the pitch in a very short time.

"As I was enjoying a fantastic period with Arsenal and the first official diagnosis from the doctors was that I would be out for six weeks, I wanted to bring that period back to three or four weeks.

"But the ligaments in my ankle were completely ruptured. That's why the treatment in Serbia, we know now, never had the chance to be successful from the start.

"I have never wanted to go for alternative medical help before. Normally I am too cool for that kind of thing.

"But because I wanted to grab every opportunity to get fit again and to be back on the pitch with Arsenal, I decided to have a go. If it does not help me, it won't harm me either. That was my motto.

"I had the treatment methods checked intensively before I went out there. I demanded to know if there was any way it could do any damage. It couldn't. Which is why I went.

"A lot has been said and written about it. But the method of treatment in Serbia is not a bizarre thing. I did not have anything injected in my body. The treatment was solely on the surface.''

Van Persie says he did underestimate the impact of his visit to Serbia. "People say I should have kept it quiet. But because I always want to be honest and I felt as if I had nothing to hide, I wanted to be open about it.

"I was in continuous contact with the medical staff at Arsenal, with whom I have an excellent relationship. In fact, I admire our medical people at the club for giving me the chance to work on a really fast return into the team. A lot of other people made comments without having any knowledge of the treatment methods in Serbia.''

Van Persie says he understands the curiosity after the injury moment in the friendly against Italy. He is the star striker of the Netherlands and one of the main attackers at Arsenal.

"But I was surprised by the hype and some of the bizarre comments. All those people forget I only had one goal with all this: I wanted to get back in the team at Arsenal as quick as possible.''

Van Persie now knows he needs to be patient.

"It is so frustrating to be out for months. I was having a super season with the team. I had never felt as strong and powerful as this year. Apart from, I think, two matches, I either scored or made goals in all the games we played this season.

"I was getting so strong, that I felt nobody could stop me anymore. That is the greatest feeling you can have as a player.

"It is such a pity that great run has been stopped for the time being by one kick in a friendly international match. It is a real shame for me, for the team and for the fans of Arsenal.''

Van Persie hopes he can still play a major role in Arsenal's season. The team, he feels, deserve a trophy. "I want to wish them luck against Chelsea this weekend. I hope the boys keep believing in themselves. I am absolutely convinced they will keep improving and keep the good form of the last few months going.''

Robin says he feels supported by the positive reactions he has received since damaging his ankle.

"In Serbia complete strangers came up to me to wish me well. In London, the same thing. In Amsterdam, at the AMC hospital, everyone told me I had been so unlucky. People tell me they want to enjoy watching me play again soon for Arsenal. That has really lifted my spirit in a difficult time.''

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jimmy Two Times on November 28, 2009, 10:20:42 PM
Big test tomorrow.  Looking like Traore at left back with Billy Gallas a doubt.  Someone needs to step up to the mark and replace RVP.  Ballack, Essien and Drogba might just have too much power....we will struggle at set pieces without Bendtner and Diaby.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2009, 06:00:56 PM
Only Arsenal could depress you like that, probably time for Wenger to call a halt to the experiment and splash the cash in January and next summer..

Drogba will get the plaudits but Anelka worked his bollox off and their back four were so good, can't see any team beating them to the title.

:'(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on November 29, 2009, 06:23:26 PM
Arsenal form against the top 8
P5 W1 D0 L4

Arsenal form against the rest
P8 W7 D1 L0

Talk about Gattuso being a bit unsettled at Milan, getting him in might settle that unbalanced midfield a bit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on November 29, 2009, 07:34:40 PM
Quote from: AFS on November 29, 2009, 06:23:26 PM
Arsenal form against the top 8
P5 W1 D0 L4

Arsenal form against the rest
P8 W7 D1 L0

Talk about Gattuso being a bit unsettled at Milan, getting him in might settle that unbalanced midfield a bit.

No more talk please of the big four, there is now the big two with four other clubs at least two notches below them.

Arsenal cannot get it done against the big two when it matters most but the are still the third best team in the league and easily the best to watch in any league,, scant consolation for their league season aspirations being over before december starts but they are.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on November 29, 2009, 09:32:26 PM
I reckon we can now challenge the Goons for thrid place ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mortified on November 29, 2009, 09:37:15 PM
very poor performance today, dont rate Eduardo at all, are all Arsenal players afraid to shoot from outside the box? really annoying today!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on November 29, 2009, 09:49:59 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2009, 06:00:56 PM
Only Arsenal could depress you like that, probably time for Wenger to call a halt to the experiment and splash the cash in January and next summer..

Drogba will get the plaudits but Anelka worked his bollox off and their back four were so good, can't see any team beating them to the title.

:'(

Chelsea were just fantastic today. Arsenal were not bad in the first half. The goal wasnt really on the cards until it came - fantastic finish by drogba, but what about that ball from john terry of all people!

The most frustrating aspect of the game today was arsenals insistence on knocking it in from wide and constant overlapping - we had no size in the box at all, unless it was from set pieces. Eduardo, Vela, and fabregas were not going to beat Terry, Carvalho and the eastern European. More often than not the ball wasnt beating the first defender anyway.

Van Pierse is a huge loss, as is Diaby.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 29, 2009, 09:56:30 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2009, 06:00:56 PM
Only Arsenal could depress you like that, probably time for Wenger to call a halt to the experiment and splash the cash in January and next summer..

Drogba will get the plaudits but Anelka worked his bollox off and their back four were so good, can't see any team beating them to the title.
:'(

Fair comments on here. I thought that the last few weeks especially, Anelka's work rate has been phenomenal. The amount of time he comes deep, gets the ball in the last third, shirks a few tackles and retains posession is phenomenal.

Again as Dinny said our back four were excellent. Ivanovic had a very good game, and Terry was immense.

I think Arsenal actually shaded the midfiled battle but they have no width and everything is congested. It allowed Ashley Cole time to bomb forward and pick out a few crosses. Push Cole back and you are a long way to matching Chelsea.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2009, 10:38:16 PM
If ever there was a time for Wenger to abandon his dream of coaching a title winning side mostly from youth, it's now. Chelsea were bigger and stronger as the game progressed and that told in the end. You simply cannot do it in the modern era with other teams capable of addressing any deficency by throwing a few million at it.

Arsenal can play any team in Europe off the park if allowed. However, their mental strength is questionable. After going 1 down when they dominated play, they were incapable of grabbing the game by the balls. Gallas won the war v Toure but Arsenal may be weaker for it.

I was never a fan of the Abramovich Chelsea as I saw it as a way to buy success without the foundations. It still is. But after today, I hope they win the thing. In Terry, Anelka, Drogba, Lampard and Cole they have players who'll roll up the sleeves and work their knackers off, off the ball. Arsenal could learn a lot from that. Cole took some abuse, kept his head down and delivered.

Arsene needs to dig deep this winter. Eduardo, Vela and Walcott are weak against the best teams. Denilson, Song and Nasri need that steely experience alongside them. And feck me, Arsenal are small. Pires, Henry, Gilberto, Bergkamp, Vieira etc were all 6 foot plus. This side is like Tyrone of '95!

Well done Chelsea - at 2-0 up, they shut up shop and did it well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2009, 10:57:53 PM
QuoteWell done Chelsea - at 2-0 up, they shut up shop and did it well.

Did it very very well tactically and their committment to every block and tackle, the feckers must have won every 50/50.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on November 29, 2009, 11:11:14 PM
Pires was 6ft plus?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 29, 2009, 11:18:13 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2009, 10:57:53 PM
QuoteWell done Chelsea - at 2-0 up, they shut up shop and did it well.

Did it very very well tactically and their committment to every block and tackle, the feckers must have won every 50/50.

That's a culture José installed in the club that still resonates. It helps when you've people like Terry and Lampard there. Without getting two sickly they are the rock of the club.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2009, 11:29:28 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on November 29, 2009, 11:11:14 PM
Pires was 6ft plus?

Well over.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: norabeag on November 29, 2009, 11:36:29 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 29, 2009, 11:29:28 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on November 29, 2009, 11:11:14 PM
Pires was 6ft plus?

Well over.
Doubt if Bergkamp was 6ft+
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2009, 11:37:33 PM
Yes he was.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 04, 2009, 11:49:43 AM
Feck it anyway. Any good news?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: bingobus on December 04, 2009, 11:55:00 AM
Arashavin is making bad noises in public and Wenger has cut his hands off so he doesn't have to shake hands ever again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 04, 2009, 12:00:02 PM
Classy Arsenal fans again on Wednesday night singing the Adebayor song, AGAIN, as well as singing "Thierry Henry" at Shay Given in the 2nd half on Wednesday night. Sure what else would you expect with Wenger in charge of this lot? They play good football though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: JohnDenver on December 04, 2009, 12:06:01 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 04, 2009, 12:00:02 PM
Classy Arsenal fans again on Wednesday night singing the Adebayor song, AGAIN, as well as singing "Thierry Henry" at Shay Given in the 2nd half on Wednesday night. Sure what else would you expect with Wenger in charge of this lot? They play good football though.

Just right they were, if Given had of came and taken that ball floated into the box we could have been waiting to see who we would get in the World Cup draw today.  He'll know for again to play to the whistle.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 04, 2009, 12:11:14 PM
Premier League - Arshavin: We're not very good

Arsenal's Andrei Arshavin has bemoaned his team's physical limitations as the main reason for why they are "not very good" this season.

The Gunners have fallen 11 points behind leaders Chelsea in the Premier League after the 3-0 defeat the Blues meted out to them at the Emirates Stadium on Sunday.

That result was their second league loss on the spin following the 1-0 defeat at Sunderland the previous week.

Arsenal have also lost to both Manchester United and City in the league this season, and their young side went down at City again in midweek in the Carling Cup.

Russia international Arshavin, who stands at 5ft 8in, believes it is a lack of height and strength that has seen them suffer against the top sides this term.

He said: "The fact that we have lost against our direct rivals this season signifies that we are not very good.

"We are not very good on set pieces because we don't have many tall players - every other team has an advantage over us in this area.

"(Chelsea) were much stronger than us when it came to physical power. Had we possessed a tall player then things would have been better for us. We had nobody capable of holding on to the ball."

Arsenal lost in-form striker Robin van Persie to a long-term ankle injury during the international break and their very next match, the defeat at Sunderland, was the first game all season in which they failed to score.

In their subsequent four matches without the Dutch forward Arsenal have scored just twice, in the 2-0 win over Standard Liege in the Champions League.

"We played good football against all these top teams but that is not enough. We score a lot of goals, but we always let in one or more," Arshavin added.

The Russian, who has scored five times this season for the Gunners, has backed his manager Arsene Wenger to turn things around, but hopes that the French boss will add to his squad once the January transfer window opens.

He said: "What we can change only Arsene Wenger knows. He has been at the club for 13 years and knows the problems better than anyone.

"All the Arsenal players are behind him - and if he leaves they will all leave. It would be good if the club could sign some great players.

"It is up to the manager whether he will sign a new striker in January - I have my own ideas but I won't say what they are."

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on December 04, 2009, 12:14:22 PM
I think everyone knows arsenal lack a bit of steel in the middle I have been saying that for ages, but the loss of V. Persie for me is the main reason they will struggle now.  He is a top class leader, always an option for the midfielders and so strong on the ball.  They have no one near his quality to replace, though in fairness players like him are hard to replace anyway. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 04, 2009, 12:27:52 PM
That JohnDenver is full of shit. It was McShanes fault anyway.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: bingobus on December 04, 2009, 12:51:50 PM
Quote from: JohnDenver on December 04, 2009, 12:06:01 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 04, 2009, 12:00:02 PM
Classy Arsenal fans again on Wednesday night singing the Adebayor song, AGAIN, as well as singing "Thierry Henry" at Shay Given in the 2nd half on Wednesday night. Sure what else would you expect with Wenger in charge of this lot? They play good football though.

Just right they were, if Given had of came and taken that ball floated into the box we could have been waiting to see who we would get in the World Cup draw today.  He'll know for again to play to the whistle.

Cheers Keano.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 04, 2009, 01:25:39 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 04, 2009, 12:00:02 PM
Classy Arsenal fans again on Wednesday night singing the Adebayor song, AGAIN, as well as singing "Thierry Henry" at Shay Given in the 2nd half on Wednesday night. Sure what else would you expect with Wenger in charge of this lot? They play good football though.

So is it stupidity or badness you're full of?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 04, 2009, 01:48:44 PM
Just a bit of badness ;) Have to amuse myself somehow to get over this hangover!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 04, 2009, 02:01:12 PM
QuoteJust right they were, if Given had of came and taken that ball floated into the box we could have been waiting to see who we would get in the World Cup draw today.  He'll know for again to play to the whistle.

Absolutely, if Given was any good he'd be playing for a big club by now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 04, 2009, 02:18:47 PM
Which is why he's not playing for the Arse.

One of the best goalkeepers in the world at the minute.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 04, 2009, 02:25:28 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 04, 2009, 02:27:32 PM
I'm laughing at Arsenal and their deluded fans as well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 05, 2009, 09:00:08 AM
Home v Stoke today. Either the road to recovery or complete disintegration (draw or loss).

Eduardo'd need to pull his finger out today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on December 05, 2009, 09:56:57 AM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 04, 2009, 02:27:32 PM
I'm laughing at Arsenal and their deluded fans as well.

1 win in the last 8 games against a Arsenal reserve team..Well done Archie

Seems to me your the deluded one Archie.

Look forward to watching you on C5 next year if you make it that is.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 05, 2009, 08:47:47 PM
All over Stoke but still a rattled team. Arshavin missed a boatload.

Away to Liverpool next Sunday. Fear that already.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 05, 2009, 08:49:45 PM
QuoteAway to Liverpool next Sunday. Fear that already.

Draw written all over it...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on December 05, 2009, 08:50:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 05, 2009, 08:49:45 PM
QuoteAway to Liverpool next Sunday. Fear that already.

Draw written all over it...

4-4 or 5-5 ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 05, 2009, 09:12:32 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 05, 2009, 08:50:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 05, 2009, 08:49:45 PM
QuoteAway to Liverpool next Sunday. Fear that already.

Draw written all over it...

4-4 or 5-5 ?

1-1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 05, 2009, 11:11:15 PM
You have to laugh at Eboue.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 05, 2009, 11:12:44 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 05, 2009, 11:11:15 PM
You have to laugh at Eboue.

Only after 3 points. If he was defending he wouldn't get in the way.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 05, 2009, 11:19:04 PM
Every time he does something like that he has that 'aw crap, i'm in for it now' look. Cygan had it as well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 06, 2009, 12:04:51 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 05, 2009, 11:19:04 PM
Every time he does something like that he has that 'aw crap, i'm in for it now' look. Cygan had it as well.

Senderos, the pair of them.

Imagine how Arsenal training matches go with the likes of Eboe, Senderos and Gibbs (who may go on to be a good player) defending against the likes of Flabby, Arshavin, Rosicky, RVP?

No wonder the goalkeepers have no confidence.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on December 10, 2009, 07:10:44 PM
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arshavin-double-the-odds-exclusive

Paddy Power offering 12/1 Arshavin for first goal on Sunday!! Pile on now!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 10, 2009, 07:39:36 PM
Enjoyed watching that yesterday. Ramsey and Song were tremendous. Vela is a weak link right now and Walcott's too eager.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 12, 2009, 07:46:40 PM
Some lifeline today with Chelski  drawing and the Mancs losing.

A win tomorrow would be unreal result now !!!

C'mon the Gooners !!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 12, 2009, 07:50:33 PM
QuoteSome lifeline today with Chelski and the Mancs losing.

Wishful thinking, I think it was more important that The Spuds and The Manchester Wannabes dropped points.

Liverpool like Man City can raise their game when playing the big sides so expect a draw or loss tomorrow for the goons.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 12, 2009, 07:53:33 PM
No reason why we can t win tomorrow. !!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 12, 2009, 08:02:27 PM
QuoteNo reason why we can t win tomorrow. !!!

No but confidence is not where it should be and Liverpool are a good side albeit playing poorly, Liverpool making all the right sounds and are developing a siege mentality (thanks to Souness). A draw tomorrow would be a good result for Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on December 12, 2009, 09:08:26 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 12, 2009, 07:46:40 PM
Some lifeline today with Chelski  drawing and the Mancs losing.

A win tomorrow would be unreal result now !!!

C'mon the Gooners !!!!

The league is dead to the arse, forget the league.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 12, 2009, 09:15:03 PM
Quote from: stew on December 12, 2009, 09:08:26 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 12, 2009, 07:46:40 PM
Some lifeline today with Chelski  drawing and the Mancs losing.

A win tomorrow would be unreal result now !!!

C'mon the Gooners !!!!

The league is dead to the arse, forget the league.

Dunno about that. If Wenger can get a good quality striker in January then its game on. Chelski and Man U have shown today they are beatable.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 13, 2009, 05:19:01 PM
Some finish by Arshavin.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2009, 05:21:55 PM
Great stuff, lads !!!!!

Keep 'er tight !!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 13, 2009, 05:25:34 PM
Torres a bit like George Michael last night on the X Factor. No doubting his class but short of practise.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 13, 2009, 05:26:59 PM
Quote from: stew on December 12, 2009, 09:08:26 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 12, 2009, 07:46:40 PM
Some lifeline today with Chelski  drawing and the Mancs losing.

A win tomorrow would be unreal result now !!!

C'mon the Gooners !!!!

The league is dead to the arse, forget the league.

me arse ::) arsenal win this today & their game in hand they will then be ahead of man united in the table
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on December 13, 2009, 05:32:19 PM
QuoteDunno about that. If Wenger can get a good quality striker in January then its game on. Chelski and Man U have shown today they are beatable.

LOL.  An Arsenal fan whos thinks they can still win the league.   Funniest thing I've heard this weekend!   ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2009, 05:39:41 PM
Quote from: under the bar on December 13, 2009, 05:32:19 PM
QuoteDunno about that. If Wenger can get a good quality striker in January then its game on. Chelski and Man U have shown today they are beatable.

LOL.  An Arsenal fan whos thinks they can still win the league.   Funniest thing I've heard this weekend!   ;D

Funniest thing you've heard this weekend? Wouldn't fancy your life ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 13, 2009, 05:41:28 PM
3 Agger dives all bought by the ref. Yellow card Arshavin.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 13, 2009, 05:56:22 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 13, 2009, 05:39:41 PM
Quote from: under the bar on December 13, 2009, 05:32:19 PM
QuoteDunno about that. If Wenger can get a good quality striker in January then its game on. Chelski and Man U have shown today they are beatable.

LOL.  An Arsenal fan whos thinks they can still win the league.   Funniest thing I've heard this weekend!   ;D

Funniest thing you've heard this weekend? Wouldn't fancy your life ;)

It was funny, in a 2nd class primary school sort of way..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2009, 05:58:24 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 12, 2009, 08:02:27 PM
QuoteNo reason why we can t win tomorrow. !!!

No but confidence is not where it should be and Liverpool are a good side albeit playing poorly, Liverpool making all the right sounds and are developing a siege mentality (thanks to Souness). A draw tomorrow would be a good result for Arsenal.

And a win's even better result!!!!!!!  GET IN THERE !!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 13, 2009, 06:16:43 PM

Some observations

- Firstly glad I called that wrong
- Awful awful first half performance and a very poor goal to give away
- Very comfortable 2nd half and Liverpool created nothing, could have played another 45 and Liverpool would created anything serious problems in that team
- Vermaelen was immense but Song was my man of the match, will be a big loss in January
- Actually glad to see Silvestre come on and Diaby - can't believe I said that
- Arshavin is mystery but glad he is an Arsenal mystery
- Have a nice run of games coming up and Arsenal could be top come end of January
- Almunia is still rubbish

Burnley     A
Hull City    H
Aston Villa    H
Portsmouth A   
Bolton Wanderers  H    
Everton    H
Bolton Wanderers A    
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: trileacman on December 13, 2009, 06:22:20 PM
(http://dynimg.rte.ie/0002d50710dr.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 13, 2009, 06:56:24 PM
Life is good again. Amazing what 3 points can do.

Arsenal were atrocious first half and marginally better the second. If Arsenal can stay within touching distance and get RVP back in March, things can happen. Still need a striker over 5 foot 3 in the Jan sales though.

Walcott badly needs games, and a role.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2009, 07:08:19 PM
I ve given up on Walcott to be honest.
Think he s got long enough to prove himself and he hasn t done it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 14, 2009, 09:50:09 AM
Mad Jens still keeping it lit.

Stuttgart keeper Jens Lehmann was again entangled in controversy when he was red-carded three minutes from time in the Bundesliga match against Mainz and had a minor scuffle with a fan afterwards.

Stuttgart were leading 1-0 against Mainz until former Germany keeper Lehmann, 40, pushed striker Aristide Bance for no apparent reason and was sent off.

Earlier last week, Lehmann was pictured urinating against an advertising hoarding during Stuttgart's Champions League game against Unirea Urziceni.

Mainz converted the penalty and equalised, denying Stuttgart their third league win this season.

"The scene with Jens was unnecessary," Stuttgart coach Christian Gross said. "I know the player Lehmann very well but know little about the person Lehmann.

"I will intensively analyse the situation with him. The success of the team is above everything."

Lehmann, who was recently fined 40,000 euros (£35,000) for what the club said were damaging comments about Stuttgart fans, left the stadium without speaking to reporters and had a minor altercation with a fan outside.

The keeper ripped the man's glasses off before returning them a little later.

Eurosport.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 14, 2009, 09:57:02 AM
Didn't Lens take a piss pn the pitch during the CL last week too!

I see Wenger being embarassingly voyeuristic again too!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on December 14, 2009, 10:20:40 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 14, 2009, 09:57:02 AM
Didn't Lens take a piss pn the pitch during the CL last week too!

I see Wenger being embarassingly voyeuristic again too!

Nah, they didn't qualify for it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 14, 2009, 11:41:51 AM
QuoteI see Wenger being embarassingly voyeuristic again too!

The irony
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 14, 2009, 10:07:55 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 14, 2009, 11:41:51 AM
QuoteI see Wenger being embarassingly voyeuristic again too!

The irony

Ack c'mon now Dinny. He's been spurting an old anti-Chelsea comment every few days for the last few weeks. In my opinion it's getting embarassing, and laughable.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 14, 2009, 10:33:14 PM
QuoteAck c'mon now Norf. He's been spurting an old anti-Wenger comment every few days for the last few years. In my opinion it's getting embarassing, and laughable.

corrected that for you  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 14, 2009, 11:10:39 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 14, 2009, 10:33:14 PM
QuoteAck c'mon now Norf. He's been spurting an old anti-Wenger comment every few days for the last few years. In my opinion it's getting embarassing, and laughable.

corrected that for you  ;)

Whoosh on me that one. Who's the 'he'?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on December 15, 2009, 12:43:49 PM
Arsenal fans - what's the story with Eduardo? I bought him for my fantasy football team after Van Persie's injury but he's not getting a look in at the mo. Didn't even come off the bench on Sunday. Any chance of him getting a game soon or should i cut my losses and sell?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 15, 2009, 12:47:26 PM
Alas not the same player since his leg break, low on confidence at the moment, I'd sell..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on December 15, 2009, 12:57:10 PM
Cheers Dinny. Think ill trade him in and buy Rodallega.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 15, 2009, 01:31:55 PM
Quote from: Asal Mor on December 15, 2009, 12:57:10 PM
Cheers Dinny. Think ill trade him in and buy Rodallega.

I bought thon whore on Saturday. Missed a penalty and cost me dear!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 11:01:18 AM
No point in beating the Scousers and then dropping points at Burnley. With Manure and Villa winning, it's vital to keep in the race over Christmas.

Burnley are a tough nut at home. They've beaten Manure, Everton, Sunderland, Birmingham, Hull and drew with Villa at Turf Moor.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 08:04:22 PM
1-0 Flabbyarse
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 08:16:24 PM
1-1. Stupid feckin penalty.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 08:31:59 PM
Fabregas off injured.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 16, 2009, 08:32:25 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 08:04:22 PM
1-0 Flabbyarse

and he now of to, another injury we do not need
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 08:46:23 PM
Going to be really pissed off if 3 points aren't taken here.

Defence is v ropey. Arshavin a devil though - just give him the ball. Painful watching Walcott.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: TheGreatRambo on December 16, 2009, 08:47:05 PM
Quote from: gerry on December 16, 2009, 08:32:25 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 08:04:22 PM
1-0 Flabbyarse

and he now of to, another injury we do not need

Another injury, me fantasy footie team falling apart
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 08:50:11 PM
Getting uncontrollably angry. Feck Christmas.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 16, 2009, 08:53:02 PM
do many teams have their entrance behind their goals like burnley, first time to notice it tonight
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 08:54:55 PM
Stick yer feckin foot in Walcott. Gallas looks up for it. Diaby....waken up ye big lazy hoor.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 08:57:02 PM
Get Theo off te feck.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 09:01:05 PM
At training, Wenger must ban shots from 15 yards out.

Almunia as edgy as feck.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 09:06:38 PM
Jaysus Arsene, what more wrong can Walcott do - even Eboue on would be a better option.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 09:07:42 PM
Walcott you f@c@ing dick.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 16, 2009, 09:08:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 08:57:02 PM
Get Theo off te feck.

what a miss
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 09:09:23 PM
Burnley hit post.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 16, 2009, 09:10:35 PM
lucky not to be another goal down
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 09:10:51 PM
Burnley crowd now laughing at Theo's attempted passes. Batin the wall here.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 16, 2009, 09:11:56 PM
he off now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 09:13:46 PM
How'd that happen? Didn't see him slip off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 09:14:56 PM
Burnley the better side right now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 16, 2009, 09:15:01 PM
How long left?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 09:15:17 PM
20 mins
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 16, 2009, 09:16:19 PM
eduardo on for him
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 09:17:04 PM
Burnley just scored but offside, so they didn't. Close.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 16, 2009, 09:17:27 PM
very close, we are poor
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 09:18:25 PM
Burnley v comfortable. Arsenal posing no threat at all.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 16, 2009, 09:19:12 PM
after a good game against pool now this rubbish
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 09:20:11 PM
Quote from: gerry on December 16, 2009, 09:19:12 PM
after a good game against pool now this rubbish

How bad are Liverpool!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 09:21:59 PM
It's gonna take a bolt from the blue to win this. An Arshavin special?

Almunia and Gallas now having a barney.

Did you see Almunia's dive for the offside goal??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 16, 2009, 09:22:22 PM
would leave us

1     Chelsea     17     27     38
2    Man Utd    17    23    37
3    Arsenal    16    21    32
4    Aston Villa    17    14    32
5    Tottenham   17    14    30
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 16, 2009, 09:22:29 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 09:20:11 PM
Quote from: gerry on December 16, 2009, 09:19:12 PM
after a good game against pool now this rubbish

How bad are Liverpool!!
:-\

Online for 3 points tonight, while we are dwaddling.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 16, 2009, 09:23:39 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 09:21:59 PM
It's gonna take a bolt from the blue to win this. An Arshavin special?

Almunia and Gallas now having a barney.

Did you see Almunia's dive for the offside goal??

posting on here, missed it
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 16, 2009, 09:27:30 PM
ed making a difference
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 16, 2009, 09:29:21 PM
Silvestre lucky not to give away penalty
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 16, 2009, 09:38:52 PM
I'd be better off following David Blunkett than Arsenal,
at least he can hang on to a f**king lead
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 09:42:11 PM
Crock of dung.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on December 16, 2009, 09:45:04 PM
useless c***ts
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on December 16, 2009, 09:46:00 PM
Quote from: new devil on December 16, 2009, 09:45:04 PM
useless c***ts

I thought you of all people would be able to spell c*nt
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: wallyman on December 16, 2009, 09:49:44 PM
Thanks for ruining my bet :(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 09:51:49 PM
Stan Collymore reckons it's a good point for Arsenal and Wenger will be pleased. Good man Stan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on December 16, 2009, 09:54:21 PM
Quote from: new devil on December 16, 2009, 09:45:04 PM
useless c***ts

They got more than United got at Burnley
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 16, 2009, 10:03:11 PM
Considering the performance it was a good point, Burnley played well and created the better chances. Lost a little bit of ground but ffs it's a marathon not a sprint..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 16, 2009, 10:08:35 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 16, 2009, 09:54:21 PM
Quote from: new devil on December 16, 2009, 09:45:04 PM
useless c***ts

They got more than United got at Burnley

they did indeed & that burnley 1-0 man united result could cost us the title only time will tell  :-\
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: wallyman on December 16, 2009, 10:09:55 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 16, 2009, 10:08:35 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on December 16, 2009, 09:54:21 PM
Quote from: new devil on December 16, 2009, 09:45:04 PM
useless c***ts

They got more than United got at Burnley

they did indeed & that burnley 1-0 man united result could cost us the title only time will tell  :-\

On the other hand it could save burnleys bacon come the crunch!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2009, 10:43:06 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 16, 2009, 10:03:11 PM
Considering the performance it was a good point, Burnley played well and created the better chances. Lost a little bit of ground but ffs it's a marathon not a sprint..

It's more the performance Dinny. After Sunday's result, this was a chance to commence a bit of a streak coming up to Christmas. It was spineless and losing Fabregas is another blow.

Maybe this weekend with the Goons home to Hull and Utd at Fulham things might look rosier again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: fer fox ache on December 16, 2009, 10:50:22 PM
The lack of some one to lead the line sticks out like a sore thumb, how many times did we pass the ball across the front of the Burnley area before attempting to slip a five a side ball that was inevitably cut out.
I know it's not comparing like with like but Burnley always had an outlet with the big lad Fletcher up front. We could be doing with a big Alan Smith type to allow the likes of Arshavin to play off. I'm worried about Eduardo as well he seems to be too aware of when the contact is coming not that I'd blame after his horrific injury
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on December 16, 2009, 11:10:15 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 16, 2009, 10:03:11 PM
Considering the performance it was a good point, Burnley played well and created the better chances. Lost a little bit of ground but ffs it's a marathon not a sprint..

Ye hardly still have hopes on the title. That would be a bit delusional now in fairness.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 17, 2009, 12:09:27 AM
More importantly, surely Wenger realises that he needs to buy at least one ready-made European class player. People talk about a centre forward..I'd be happy with a winger. Walcott's delivery is atrocious, Nasri ain't a winger and Arshavin's best work is in the middle. Get Bender back and Eduardo with a few games under his belt - if quality ball is delivered in then things can happen. At the minute it's 13 touches in the dee.

Like this lad - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28S8kFG7hBM
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 17, 2009, 07:27:21 AM
QuoteYe hardly still have hopes on the title. That would be a bit delusional now in fairness.

I asked for that  :D


QuoteIt's more the performance Dinny. After Sunday's result, this was a chance to commence a bit of a streak coming up to Christmas. It was spineless and losing Fabregas is another blow.

I agree to an extent but I wouldn't say spineless, they went out to win the match and continuously attacked but again as ffa alludes to Arsenal only have plan A, when this doesn't work they look clueless not spineless. After the man-shaming that Chelsea gave, they have responded well in attitude if not performance, it takes a while for confidence to build but the next 4 games, 3 at home will give us a a clearer picture f where they stand.

What has happended Walcott, his confidence is shattered  ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 17, 2009, 10:56:53 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 17, 2009, 07:27:21 AM

I agree to an extent but I wouldn't say spineless, they went out to win the match and continuously attacked but again as ffa alludes to Arsenal only have plan A, when this doesn't work they look clueless not spineless.

Did you not see the amount of 50/50s Diaby, Walcott, Nasri etc lost or pulled out of? Wenger complained afterwards that the ref let a lot go - he may have done but would probably also have done so if the Arsenal midfield displayed the same bravery Burnley showed. Rooney, Scholes, Fletcher and Carrick  - even one of those players would've been a better option at places like that. That's why Ferguson always plays Fletcher against Arsenal; he knows they calf against tacklers. Song fought a lone battle last night.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 17, 2009, 12:25:23 PM
Yea but Arsenal really haven't had a tough tackling midfield since Petit, PV4 and Parlour so I expect them to actually lose most 50/50s.....in the bigger picture I don't think it's a bad point, more worried about the loss of Fab and the form of Walcott than Arsenal's inability to win a 50/50 against Burnley, it's a hard place to goto on a cold miserable December evening....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 17, 2009, 11:56:29 PM
Do you not think it's wrong to expect to lose most 50/50s?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 18, 2009, 12:23:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrw4IlKRPmc&feature=youtube_gdata
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 18, 2009, 12:25:06 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 18, 2009, 12:23:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrw4IlKRPmc&feature=youtube_gdata

took some time to do that
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 18, 2009, 12:19:25 PM
QuoteDo you not think it's wrong to expect to lose most 50/50s?

No but you to be realistic about their physical limitations
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 18, 2009, 06:18:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d30ra6x0ui0

Miss Mad Jens
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 19, 2009, 03:53:32 PM
Few good articles here about the youth system:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1236765/EXCLUSIVE-Step-inside-Arsene-Wengers-talent-factory-Arsenals-football-nursery-laid-bare.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1236765/EXCLUSIVE-Step-inside-Arsene-Wengers-talent-factory-Arsenals-football-nursery-laid-bare.html)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1236755/Steve-Bould-From-Arsenals-famous-production-world-class-players.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1236755/Steve-Bould-From-Arsenals-famous-production-world-class-players.html)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1237045/Kids-fast-lane-How-Arsenal-mould-latest-batch-Arsene-Wengers-talent-factory.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1237045/Kids-fast-lane-How-Arsenal-mould-latest-batch-Arsene-Wengers-talent-factory.html)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1237044/Arsene-Wenger-Can-new-breed-Arsenal-youngsters-fight-suffer-make-sacrifices-real-winners.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1237044/Arsene-Wenger-Can-new-breed-Arsenal-youngsters-fight-suffer-make-sacrifices-real-winners.html)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1236772/Inside-Arsenals-talent-factory-Cedric-Evina-case-study.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1236772/Inside-Arsenals-talent-factory-Cedric-Evina-case-study.html)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1237026/Inside-Arsenals-talent-factory-Emmanuel-Frimpongs-case-study.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1237026/Inside-Arsenals-talent-factory-Emmanuel-Frimpongs-case-study.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 20, 2009, 08:41:20 PM
Slow and steady wins the race.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on December 20, 2009, 10:01:59 PM
QuoteSlow and steady wins the race

For Arsenal it won't premiership one tho' unfortunately  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jimmy Two Times on December 27, 2009, 12:44:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders

A team with a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game doesn't have too many gears to go up son.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: wallyman on December 27, 2009, 12:54:34 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 27, 2009, 12:44:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders

A team with a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game doesn't have too many gears to go up son.

Hargreaves is on the way back son.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 01:53:21 PM
Badly need a striker. Eduardo really off form. So far he has wasted three decent chances by dithering. (cue hat-trick).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 27, 2009, 02:19:56 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders

come june/july roscommon i expect will be 20 points behind the leaders
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 27, 2009, 02:51:22 PM
how we not scoring
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 27, 2009, 02:58:02 PM
Great free kick from Fabregas. Was only a matter of time. Eduardo wasn't at the races at all today. Shocking poor attempt in first half, RVP would have buried that chance.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: wallyman on December 27, 2009, 03:08:21 PM
Fabregas the only true quality player in that team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on December 27, 2009, 03:12:57 PM
Game set and match!
That was some speed from fabregas, he is pure class!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 03:17:08 PM
He's some boy.

Injured again though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on December 27, 2009, 03:20:50 PM
They should still be to strong for Portsmouth next day even without him!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 27, 2009, 03:23:16 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on December 27, 2009, 03:20:50 PM
They should still be to strong for Portsmouth next day even without him!

46 goals at the half way point in the season. Won't make the ton.

Edit: 47 goals.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 03:26:08 PM
Diaby's some hoor. He scores goals like that which keeps him in the team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 27, 2009, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders

probably 30 points in fairness, 2nd gear not even 1st gear....

QuoteFabregas the only true quality player in that team.

He's not even quality....

Great 2nd half performance from the Goons, one of the best 30 minute cameo's I can ever remember from the Cesc Bomb, with Traore and Sagna in the backline Villa needed some guile from midfield to add to their pace that on today's performance they don't have.

Diaby was my man of the match has looked very confident and sharp since his return as has Nasri who is provided some leadership and I thought Almunia looked narky, focused and confident as well today, hopefully this is a sign of some form returning for him

Good to beat one of the challengers for the CL spot, if Wenger signs intelligently in the Jan market the Arse could be contenders yet. He normally signs well with Arshavin and Adebayor been his last two.

Credit to the ref, he had a good game nice to see Song and Young booked for diving, although Song was lucky, he did a fletcher today and should have got another yellow for persisting fouling......

Onwards and upwards...

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 05:57:29 PM
Wouldn't it be great to have a Rooney-type up front. He's the only Utd player I'd take. Class control and vision.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 27, 2009, 06:01:25 PM
QuoteWouldn't it be great to have a Rooney-type up front. He's the only Utd player I'd take. Class control and vision.

Freaky was only saying the same thing  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on December 27, 2009, 06:03:32 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 27, 2009, 06:01:25 PM
QuoteWouldn't it be great to have a Rooney-type up front. He's the only Utd player I'd take. Class control and vision.

Freaky was only saying the same thing  :o

Vidic? Van der Sar? Evra?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 27, 2009, 06:07:36 PM
QuoteVidic? Van der Sar? Evra?

On current form, no chance.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on December 27, 2009, 06:12:33 PM
Two of those players were on the world team of the year and you must admit Almunia is and always will be a liability.
I do agree United's squad is a bit short on quality, especially around midfield, but there are a few world class players there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 27, 2009, 06:14:26 PM
CURRENT FORM, not past glories....

Almunia for all his problems is still better than the pole and an injured VDS, just about mind you...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jimmy Two Times on December 27, 2009, 07:02:13 PM
Quote from: wallyman on December 27, 2009, 12:54:34 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 27, 2009, 12:44:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders

A team with a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game doesn't have too many gears to go up son.

Hargreaves is on the way back son.

Been hearing that for 3 months.  He's not exactly Roy Keane either.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 27, 2009, 07:39:21 PM
What's the deal with Cesc's injury?

Every f**king player I have on my team seems to get injured. I had 4 missed penalties one weekend a few weeks back!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 27, 2009, 12:44:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders

A team with a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game doesn't have too many gears to go up son.

yup a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game that still won three league title's in a row or maybe you forgot that my old dad?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 27, 2009, 08:42:31 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 27, 2009, 12:44:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders

A team with a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game doesn't have too many gears to go up son.

yup a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game that still won three league title's in a row or maybe you forgot that my old dad?

Has Gibson won 3 league titles?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 08:55:55 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 27, 2009, 08:42:31 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 27, 2009, 12:44:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders

A team with a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game doesn't have too many gears to go up son.

yup a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game that still won three league title's in a row or maybe you forgot that my old dad?

Has Gibson won 3 league titles?

he was part of the squad but was out on loan to wolves & Royal Antwerp so maybe not?

but the united fan's chant today sums up jimmy quote best,  "we are s**t & but we are champions" :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 27, 2009, 09:03:06 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 08:55:55 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 27, 2009, 08:42:31 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 27, 2009, 12:44:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders

A team with a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game doesn't have too many gears to go up son.

yup a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game that still won three league title's in a row or maybe you forgot that my old dad?

Has Gibson won 3 league titles?

he was part of the squad but was out on loan to wolves & Royal Antwerp so maybe not?

but the united fan's chant today sums up jimmy quote best,  "we are s**t & but we are champions" :D

That doesn't even scan. Awful chant.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 09:05:52 PM
we're s**t but we're champions or something like that  ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jimmy Two Times on December 28, 2009, 07:45:54 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 27, 2009, 12:44:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders



A team with a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game doesn't have too many gears to go up son.

yup a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game that still won three league title's in a row or maybe you forgot that my old dad?

That was when they had a certain number 7 masking their deficiencies with 20 plus goals a season...............
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 28, 2009, 11:46:03 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 28, 2009, 07:45:54 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 27, 2009, 12:44:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders



A team with a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game doesn't have too many gears to go up son.

yup a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game that still won three league title's in a row or maybe you forgot that my old dad?

That was when they had a certain number 7 masking their deficiencies with 20 plus goals a season...............

apart from 2007/08 where that certain no 7 scored 31 league goals the other two title winning seasons he scored 17 & 18 last season (which were all scored in old trafford)

so maybe your still asking yourself where will the goals come from??

let's take Rooney as a example, title winning seasons he scored 14, 12 & 12 already this season he has scored 13!





Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 28, 2009, 11:48:25 PM
Ross4life, run along to the Manure thread like the good boy you are, cheers...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 28, 2009, 11:56:29 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 28, 2009, 11:48:25 PM
Ross4life, run along to the Manure thread like the good boy you are, cheers...

in the language of your great dear wenger, Embrassez mon âne ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 28, 2009, 11:59:25 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jimmy Two Times on December 29, 2009, 01:11:44 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 28, 2009, 11:46:03 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 28, 2009, 07:45:54 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 27, 2009, 12:44:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders



A team with a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game doesn't have too many gears to go up son.

yup a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game that still won three league title's in a row or maybe you forgot that my old dad?

That was when they had a certain number 7 masking their deficiencies with 20 plus goals a season...............

apart from 2007/08 where that certain no 7 scored 31 league goals the other two title winning seasons he scored 17 & 18 last season (which were all scored in old trafford)

so maybe your still asking yourself where will the goals come from??

let's take Rooney as a example, title winning seasons he scored 14, 12 & 12 already this season he has scored 13!

Did I say league goals?............and no I wasn't asking myself where will the goals come from.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 29, 2009, 06:16:05 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 29, 2009, 01:11:44 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 28, 2009, 11:46:03 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 28, 2009, 07:45:54 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 27, 2009, 12:44:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders



A team with a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game doesn't have too many gears to go up son.

yup a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game that still won three league title's in a row or maybe you forgot that my old dad?

That was when they had a certain number 7 masking their deficiencies with 20 plus goals a season...............

apart from 2007/08 where that certain no 7 scored 31 league goals the other two title winning seasons he scored 17 & 18 last season (which were all scored in old trafford)

so maybe your still asking yourself where will the goals come from??

let's take Rooney as a example, title winning seasons he scored 14, 12 & 12 already this season he has scored 13!

Did I say league goals?............and no I wasn't asking myself where will the goals come from.

the whole discussion is about the league title is it not?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jimmy Two Times on December 29, 2009, 07:42:51 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 29, 2009, 06:16:05 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 29, 2009, 01:11:44 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 28, 2009, 11:46:03 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 28, 2009, 07:45:54 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 27, 2009, 12:44:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders



A team with a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game doesn't have too many gears to go up son.

yup a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game that still won three league title's in a row or maybe you forgot that my old dad?

That was when they had a certain number 7 masking their deficiencies with 20 plus goals a season...............

apart from 2007/08 where that certain no 7 scored 31 league goals the other two title winning seasons he scored 17 & 18 last season (which were all scored in old trafford)

so maybe your still asking yourself where will the goals come from??

let's take Rooney as a example, title winning seasons he scored 14, 12 & 12 already this season he has scored 13!

Did I say league goals?............and no I wasn't asking myself where will the goals come from.

the whole discussion is about the league title is it not?

Well observed...I stated that Ronaldo was a 20 plus goals a season player and his inclusion masked the deficiencies in United's midfield....he obviously scored the majority of these goals in the league...Rooney will not score enough goals to compensate for the loss of Ronaldo and Tevez's goals from last season...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 29, 2009, 07:52:18 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 29, 2009, 07:42:51 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 29, 2009, 06:16:05 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 29, 2009, 01:11:44 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 28, 2009, 11:46:03 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 28, 2009, 07:45:54 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 27, 2009, 12:44:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders



A team with a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game doesn't have too many gears to go up son.

yup a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game that still won three league title's in a row or maybe you forgot that my old dad?

That was when they had a certain number 7 masking their deficiencies with 20 plus goals a season...............

apart from 2007/08 where that certain no 7 scored 31 league goals the other two title winning seasons he scored 17 & 18 last season (which were all scored in old trafford)

so maybe your still asking yourself where will the goals come from??

let's take Rooney as a example, title winning seasons he scored 14, 12 & 12 already this season he has scored 13!

Did I say league goals?............and no I wasn't asking myself where will the goals come from.

the whole discussion is about the league title is it not?

Well observed...I stated that Ronaldo was a 20 plus goals a season player and his inclusion masked the deficiencies in United's midfield....he obviously scored the majority of these goals in the league...Rooney will not score enough goals to compensate for the loss of Ronaldo and Tevez's goals from last season...

i thought i already proved with the stats he has already?

ronaldo scored 18 league goals last season, Rooney already scored 13

as for tevez last season he only scored 5 league goals, his replacement owen has already scored 2 goals & should be able to score 5?

i for one WON'T use the loss of ronaldo & tevez as the reasons if why united lost the league (if it does happen)

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 11:44:53 AM
Why do managers always seem to get sacked before the Arse are due to play them, Bolton has gone from a handy 6 points to a dog fight twice in 3 weeks...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: wallyman on December 30, 2009, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 11:44:53 AM
Why do managers always seem to get sacked before the Arse are due to play them, Bolton has gone from a handy 6 points to a dog fight twice in 3 weeks...

I think you'l find Avram Grant's first game as Pompey boss was against utd.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 30, 2009, 12:56:02 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 29, 2009, 07:52:18 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 29, 2009, 07:42:51 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 29, 2009, 06:16:05 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 29, 2009, 01:11:44 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 28, 2009, 11:46:03 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 28, 2009, 07:45:54 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Two Times on December 27, 2009, 12:44:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2009, 12:18:39 AM
Massive game tomorrow. Can't understand how Arsenal are in the title race. They're still playing middlin.

BECAUSE chelsea & man united are not even out of 2nd gear yet!

come april/may arsenal i expect will be 9/10 points behind the leaders



A team with a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game doesn't have too many gears to go up son.

yup a midfield where Park, Gibson, Obertan, Carrick, an over the hill Scholes and last but not least Nani can get a game that still won three league title's in a row or maybe you forgot that my old dad?

That was when they had a certain number 7 masking their deficiencies with 20 plus goals a season...............

apart from 2007/08 where that certain no 7 scored 31 league goals the other two title winning seasons he scored 17 & 18 last season (which were all scored in old trafford)

so maybe your still asking yourself where will the goals come from??

let's take Rooney as a example, title winning seasons he scored 14, 12 & 12 already this season he has scored 13!

Did I say league goals?............and no I wasn't asking myself where will the goals come from.

the whole discussion is about the league title is it not?

Well observed...I stated that Ronaldo was a 20 plus goals a season player and his inclusion masked the deficiencies in United's midfield....he obviously scored the majority of these goals in the league...Rooney will not score enough goals to compensate for the loss of Ronaldo and Tevez's goals from last season...

i thought i already proved with the stats he has already?

ronaldo scored 18 league goals last season, Rooney already scored 13

as for tevez last season he only scored 5 league goals, his replacement owen has already scored 2 goals & should be able to score 5?

i for one WON'T use the loss of ronaldo & tevez as the reasons if why united lost the league (if it does happen)

I would !!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 01:20:19 PM
Quote from: wallyman on December 30, 2009, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 11:44:53 AM
Why do managers always seem to get sacked before the Arse are due to play them, Bolton has gone from a handy 6 points to a dog fight twice in 3 weeks...

I think you'l find Avram Grant's first game as Pompey boss was against utd.

Who's talking about Pompey? Gary Megson has been sacked and Bolton are due to play the Goons next Wed...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: wallyman on December 30, 2009, 01:33:34 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 01:20:19 PM
Quote from: wallyman on December 30, 2009, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 11:44:53 AM
Why do managers always seem to get sacked before the Arse are due to play them, Bolton has gone from a handy 6 points to a dog fight twice in 3 weeks...

I think you'l find Avram Grant's first game as Pompey boss was against utd.

Who's talking about Pompey? Gary Megson has been sacked and Bolton are due to play the Goons next Wed...

Your point is that managers always get sacked before Arsenal play their team. Well, I think you will find that Arsenal play Portsmouth tonight. Grant was appointed manager a few weeks ago...and low and below their first opponents were Utd (not arsenal!  ;))
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 01:46:31 PM
I wasn't stating fact only perception..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: wallyman on December 30, 2009, 01:54:26 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 01:46:31 PM
I wasn't stating fact only perception..

Well you need to take them arse tinted glasses off!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 30, 2009, 04:01:44 PM
Apprehensive about tonight. After beating the Scousers, Arsenal drew away with Burnley. Now after hammering Villa, they need to justify their title challengers tag, or feck them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 30, 2009, 04:08:30 PM
Portsmouth are no pushovers, especially at home. Arsenal's small forward line will get it tough tonight. Still expect them to sneak it tonight though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 04:50:16 PM
Hoping the shennanigans going on in Pompey today will demoralise their players, there's only so much playing for the shirt can keep professionally footballers focused....their professionals for one reason, money.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 30, 2009, 04:59:43 PM
Doesn't look good for Portsmouth indeed especially after 2 buy outs already this season. I think the infrastructure at the club isn't right to make them a good proposition for an investor. Harry jumped the sinking ship.

Speaking of Harry, Arsene is using one of Harry's tricks in saying he would like to buy a player. He has said he would like to buy Bellamy, but said he wouldn't be able to.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 30, 2009, 05:01:32 PM
Wonder if Bellamy would buy into the arsenal philosophy. Not the type of player you automagically associate with the way they play. Could be brilliant, or a waste.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 05:10:12 PM
QuoteSpeaking of Harry, Arsene is using one of Harry's tricks in saying he would like to buy a player. He has said he would like to buy Bellamy, but said he wouldn't be able to.

Was a not a case he was responding to a question about rumours that he was interested in Bellamy and he simply stated that he likes him as a player but didn't think City would sell him to a rival.

I like Bellamy's attitude I remember Wenger also professed to liking Bowyer but he never follows through and buys a player with a bit of dog in him, more's the pity...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 30, 2009, 05:18:54 PM
Here's the story here:

Arsene Wenger has admitted that he would love to sign Craig Bellamy but concedes he will never be able to buy the striker, or any other player, from Manchester City.

Arsenal are in the market for a front-man after injuries to attacking spearhead Robin van Persie and back-up forward Nicklas Bendtner have reduced the Gunners' attacking threat.

And Wenger would love to bring the in-form Wales man to the Emirates Stadium to boost Arsenal's title bid, although he has not lodged a formal bid.

Wenger said: 'I like the player but I've not done anything on that one. I don't know if we will do anything because I don't think we can buy players from Manchester City.'

Bellamy has netted six times for City so far this season, including in the Blues' 4-2 win over Wenger's side at Eastlands in September.


No concrete proof, but still showing a liking for a player is a form of tapping up. But i'm almost sure there is some sort of tapping up involved in alot of transfers these days

Bellamy has been fantastic this season. He know's this is probably his last chance at the big time. Maybe not the best player on the team, but the work he does for the team far outweighs this. There was a good few interviews past few days with him in the Mirror.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 30, 2009, 06:11:32 PM
Let's get stuck into these bell ringing hoors.

To be fair to Pompey, Arsenal players always have a good word on their supporters. Henry was a bit of a fan.

Is Song away already?

Nasri-Ramsey-Diaby-Walcott-Eduardo

Arshavin

??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 06:51:52 PM
QuoteIs Song away already?

Available to the 4th of Jan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 30, 2009, 06:54:27 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on December 30, 2009, 05:18:54 PM
Here's the story here:

Arsene Wenger has admitted that he would love to sign Craig Bellamy but concedes he will never be able to buy the striker, or any other player, from Manchester City.

Arsenal are in the market for a front-man after injuries to attacking spearhead Robin van Persie and back-up forward Nicklas Bendtner have reduced the Gunners' attacking threat.

And Wenger would love to bring the in-form Wales man to the Emirates Stadium to boost Arsenal's title bid, although he has not lodged a formal bid.

Wenger said: 'I like the player but I've not done anything on that one. I don't know if we will do anything because I don't think we can buy players from Manchester City.'

Bellamy has netted six times for City so far this season, including in the Blues' 4-2 win over Wenger's side at Eastlands in September.


No concrete proof, but still showing a liking for a player is a form of tapping up. But i'm almost sure there is some sort of tapping up involved in alot of transfers these days

Bellamy has been fantastic this season. He know's this is probably his last chance at the big time. Maybe not the best player on the team, but the work he does for the team far outweighs this. There was a good few interviews past few days with him in the Mirror.

But sure the article suggests he's not joining Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 30, 2009, 07:04:35 PM
Who said he was? He has said himself his time at City could be his last chance at the big time so why would he want to ruin it.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 30, 2009, 07:07:41 PM
Song in - Walcott not even on bench
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on December 30, 2009, 07:40:53 PM
From the BBC:

1933: Now then, observants among you will have noticed that there are no Englishmen in either starting line-up at Fratton Park tonight. That, apparently, has never happened in the Premier League before. Ever.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 30, 2009, 08:18:02 PM
Will Eduardo be able to claim that one?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 30, 2009, 08:47:04 PM
Would love to get hold of that puke with the drum and shove it...........

right up his 'arris
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 08:51:06 PM
Looks like Pompey's morale is low and they are more worried about whether they are getting paid tomorrow or not, fairly understandable....

Grant's team tallk will be 'show your f*cking professional pride, get the early goal and you can take the Arse, everyone knows their mentally f*cking weak, if want to get out of this club next month you've 45 minutes to impress now get out there and get stuck in'

Calm the storm and the Goons should cruise it...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on December 30, 2009, 09:00:02 PM
Arsenal are a very good side and seem determined to keep pace with the Chelsea and Man U despite what Fergie said 2 day.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 09:19:01 PM
Arsenal would be average without Ramsey, a one man team....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 30, 2009, 09:21:35 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 09:19:01 PM
Arsenal would be average without Ramsey, a one man team....

Yea, taught Cesc and Co all they know ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on December 30, 2009, 09:23:55 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 30, 2009, 09:21:35 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 09:19:01 PM
Arsenal would be average without Ramsey, a one man team....

Yea, taught Cesc and Co all they know ::)

Utd fans will try and claim that Giggs taught him everything as he is Welsh. Wait, thats right, Giggs hardly played for Wales.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on December 30, 2009, 09:25:33 PM
That goal just cost me 5 points on fantasy football. Useless Arsenal c***ts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 30, 2009, 09:28:06 PM
Quote from: orangeman on December 30, 2009, 09:00:02 PM
Arsenal are a very good side and seem determined to keep pace with the Chelsea and Man U despite what Fergie said 2 day.

arsenal play their game in hand before chelsea & united play again, so they should be 1pt ahead of united & 1 behind chelsea

but in late jan early feb they have united & pool at home, villa & chelsea away better to judge them after those games
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on December 30, 2009, 09:28:43 PM
Pure class there !!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 09:37:13 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 30, 2009, 09:21:35 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 09:19:01 PM
Arsenal would be average without Ramsey, a one man team....

Yea, taught Cesc and Co all they know ::)

Ah Gaffer my tongue was firmly in my cheek, it was the lazy puditry after the Villa game re: Fabregas
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 09:37:59 PM
Quote from: AFS on December 30, 2009, 09:25:33 PM
That goal just cost me 5 points on fantasy football. Useless Arsenal c***ts.

Cost me 9  >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 30, 2009, 09:46:21 PM
The fantasy football is getting on my tits now.

Anyhow.... I have seen little of Ramsey, but has he the potential to be as good as Fabregas? He always gets rave reviews, and appears to sure great maturity every time he plays.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 30, 2009, 09:52:01 PM
another good result tonight
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: wallyman on December 30, 2009, 09:52:56 PM
ramsey is the best teen in the premiership at the min.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 30, 2009, 09:54:01 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 09:37:13 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 30, 2009, 09:21:35 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 09:19:01 PM
Arsenal would be average without Ramsey, a one man team....

Yea, taught Cesc and Co all they know ::)

Ah Gaffer my tongue was firmly in my cheek, it was the lazy puditry after the Villa game re: Fabregas

No worries Dinny. Couldn t figure ye out there at all. Anyway, great result tonight, End Jan/first half of Feb iwill decide our season. Big matches then. Getting exciting now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 30, 2009, 09:54:20 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on December 30, 2009, 09:46:21 PM
The fantasy football is getting on my tits now.

Anyhow.... I have seen little of Ramsey, but has he the potential to be as good as Fabregas? He always gets rave reviews, and appears to sure great maturity every time he plays.

Improving with every outing, only just turned 19 but plays with a maturity beyond his years, very comfortable on the ball and never gives it away, behind Fabregas at the same age but then Ramsey came from Cardiff whereas Fab came from Barca. Christ if the Arse don't win a title in then next few years then something is wrong, Song, Fabregas, Wilshire and Ramsey all 22 or younger....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 31, 2009, 01:46:21 PM
You'd be hoping for 9 points before the big Villa-Utd-Chelsea-Liverpool series.

Wednesday, 6 January 2010
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Bolton, 19:45

Saturday, 9 January 2010
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Everton, 15:00

Sunday, 17 January 2010
Barclays Premier League
Bolton v Arsenal, 16:00

Wednesday, 27 January 2010
Barclays Premier League
Aston Villa v Arsenal, 19:45

Sunday, 31 January 2010
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Man Utd, 16:00

Sunday, 7 February 2010
Barclays Premier League
Chelsea v Arsenal, 16:00

Wednesday, 10 February 2010
Barclays Premier League
Arsenal v Liverpool, 19:45
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on December 31, 2009, 01:48:17 PM
4 games that could make/break the season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 31, 2009, 01:50:12 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on December 31, 2009, 01:48:17 PM
4 games that could make/break the season.

No matter what Wenger said last night, it'd be better to go into those games with a big striker from the January fire sales. He'll probably say Bender will be back by then.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on December 31, 2009, 01:53:06 PM
Totally Agree need a good striker, Not just some cheap make weight until RVP gets back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 31, 2009, 01:59:33 PM
One of those goals last night reminded me of this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIzqOJdk7Jo - every time I watch this it gets better.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on December 31, 2009, 02:04:25 PM
Aye Nasri's they only show the last bit when Eduardo get's it in the replays and focus on the terrible defending but the move started at the edge of the box with Ramsey..Great goal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 01, 2010, 08:49:24 PM
Too right. Feel nothing for this competition since the mid-noughties.

Wenger will not compromise title bid

Arsene Wenger has reassured Arsenal fans he can understand their love affair with the FA Cup, but insists the Gunners must not compromise their fight for the Barclays Premier League title.

Arsenal gave their supporters a day out at Wembley last season when reaching the semi-finals, before being beaten by Chelsea after taking the lead. While Wenger can understand the need for another decent run in the world's oldest knockout competition, which starts at West Ham on Sunday, sustaining their challenge for the championship must come first.

"We want to win, but we want to protect our home games against Bolton and Everton as well, to keep the momentum going," said Wenger.

"The Premier League is always more important [than the FA Cup], but, in the eyes of the fans, we are looking for trophies.

"However, the Premier League is so hard that you want to take care of your position.

"Two years ago we had a very good chance [at the title], and we were not far away.

"At the moment we have to keep our spirit and out attitude, then we have a chance."

Wenger added: "A season is judged on the overall achievement, and people look to who has won the trophies - but I also look at how we have done and how consistently we have played.

"This team is enjoyable to watch, but also to manage because I want to win every game."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Owenbeg on January 03, 2010, 06:02:36 PM
Lethal, pity he couldnt do it a bit more often!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 03, 2010, 06:20:47 PM
Phew! Thought schadenfreude was going to come back and bite me in the ass...

- Is Eduardo playing himself into form, starting to look sharp and great header for the goal, still need to buy a stiker in Jan though...
- Another game under the belts for Wilshire, Merida and Vela, thought Vela's movement was excellent and thought his work rate was deserving of a goal in the end.
- Is Ramsey the new Fabregas and can they play together without a holding player
- Arsenal so far have coped at different stages without Almiunia (not hard), RVP and Fabregas, if they can now cope without Song it could be a very promising year, lets hope Vermaelen doesn't get injured


Although not playing today Carlton Cole would be my choice for the striker berth....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 03, 2010, 06:48:26 PM
Quote from: wallyman on December 30, 2009, 09:52:56 PM
ramsey is the best teen in the premiership at the min.

been very impressed with him last wek agaainst pompey,today and against scotland for wales.  diaby has been very good also
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 03, 2010, 06:57:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 03, 2010, 06:20:47 PM
Phew! Thought schadenfreude was going to come back and bite me in the ass...

- Is Eduardo playing himself into form, starting to look sharp and great header for the goal, still need to buy a stiker in Jan though...
- Another game under the belts for Wilshire, Merida and Vela, thought Vela's movement was excellent and thought his work rate was deserving of a goal in the end.
- Is Ramsey the new Fabregas and can they play together without a holding player
- Arsenal so far have coped at different stages without Almiunia (not hard), RVP and Fabregas, if they can now cope without Song it could be a very promising year, lets hope Vermaelen doesn't get injured


Although not playing today Carlton Cole would be my choice for the striker berth....

eduardo goal was excellent had a lot to do and did very well to beat upson in the air.the goals arsenal; are getting this season very goo,when you consider supporters feel they need a striker
was disappointed with wilshere today
arsenal appear to be playing a 3 man midfield, so suppose you could have a holding player and ramsey and diaby
denilson i presume will hve to step up to the plate in jan to replace song.i thought he was rubbish,but has been good the few times i saw him this year

cole may be the type of striker you require more physical type of player.depends on west hams situation financially though.  if he is sold i think they will go down.  think dzeko has been priced at £20 mill.  wenger in his interview today appeared hint he may buy if correct player available
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 06, 2010, 12:09:21 AM
Wonder if the game v Bolton will go ahead.

On one hand it'd be good to get it out of the road, on the other the squad is a bit stretched at the minute.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 06, 2010, 12:31:00 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 06, 2010, 12:09:21 AM
Wonder if the game v Bolton will go ahead.

On one hand it'd be good to get it out of the road, on the other the squad is a bit stretched at the minute.

Maybe not if the Bolton fans can't make their way to the ground. I hope it goes ahead. Bolton are there for the taking and this is the all important game in hand which we MUST capatilise on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 06, 2010, 03:39:29 PM
well looks like the Bolton v Arsenal game is going ahead! makes no sense when you consider the Carling cup ties were called off

the Reebok staduim is only 20miles from the City of manchester & all of northern england has been hit bad by snow
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 06, 2010, 03:42:58 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 06, 2010, 03:39:29 PM
well looks like the Bolton v Arsenal game is going ahead! makes no sense when you consider the Carling cup ties were called off

the Reebok staduim is only 20miles from the City of manchester & all of northern england has been hit bad by snow

Sure the Bolton v Arsenal game is not a for a few weeks. Plently of time for the snow to clear. Don't understand your coparison at all.

While you're there. Any word if Arsenal v Bolton will be on tonight?  ;) :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 06, 2010, 03:45:12 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 06, 2010, 03:42:58 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 06, 2010, 03:39:29 PM
well looks like the Bolton v Arsenal game is going ahead! makes no sense when you consider the Carling cup ties were called off

the Reebok staduim is only 20miles from the City of manchester & all of northern england has been hit bad by snow

Sure the Bolton v Arsenal game is not a for a few weeks. Plently of time for the snow to clear. Don't understand your coparison at all.

While you're there. Any word if Arsenal v Bolton will be on tonight?  ;) :D

thanks for the correction i was sure it was in the Reebok ???

anyways the Arsenal v bolton game is now off!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 06, 2010, 03:47:20 PM
Bolton has a capital B, typical big club arrogance.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: bingobus on January 06, 2010, 04:03:33 PM
Thats really fecked up my Fantasy team for this week, was hoping for a good double week from my Arsenal defenders!!  >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 06, 2010, 04:07:50 PM
Quote from: bingobus on January 06, 2010, 04:03:33 PM
Thats really fecked up my Fantasy team for this week, was hoping for a good double week from my Arsenal defenders!!  >:(

Me too. FFS- Have been planning for this week for a couple of weeks now. 3 Stoke players (2 didn't play) and 3 Goons including captain Arshavin. It's really f**king me off the this fantasy footie now!  >:(

The other quandry is what games will survive Saturday!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 07, 2010, 12:19:30 AM
http://www.highburysquare.com/gallery.html - sad seeing this still.

Plenty available - http://www.highburysquare.com/availability.cfm

http://www.savills.co.uk/newhomes/PropertyDetailsAll.aspx?id=795
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:07:56 PM
1-1 at half time. Arsenal poor, lucky to be level.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 09, 2010, 04:08:23 PM
Poor 1st half but the Goons seem to be a 2nd half team, we'll soon find out...and Lou Macari has to be the worst pundit on the planet....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:14:14 PM
I blame snow.

Arsenal sleeping.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:20:16 PM
Have you ever seen Arsenal lose so much possession?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:27:06 PM
63 mins 1-1.

Played in a blizzard.

Bit of a mad game this half. Arshavin should be at home in this weather but anonymous.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:28:01 PM
Rosicky on for Ramsey. The Welshman gave away a lot of ball today. Snow joke.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:30:26 PM
Come on Arsenal - at least fcukin test Howard. In these conditions the ball could go anywhere.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:34:39 PM
70 mins. Starting to press.

Players falling all over the joint. Exciting stuff. Playing in the snow is great.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 09, 2010, 04:37:00 PM
Supporting you here O'Neill as well as the Gooners.
Don't want you to think you're talking to yerself
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:37:38 PM
Vela on for Eduardo.

Big 15 mins - can't miss this chance.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:38:27 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on January 09, 2010, 04:37:00 PM
Supporting you here O'Neill as well as the Gooners.
Don't want you to think you're talking to yerself

I practise it at home.

Almunia looking even dodgier in the conditions.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:41:19 PM
Fellaninianinini getting his big head in the way of everything.

Everton pressing now. 78 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:43:07 PM
Fcuk.......1-2
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:44:41 PM
80 mins.

Denilson banjaxed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Schkite on January 09, 2010, 04:45:14 PM
Super finish by Pienaar.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:45:41 PM
Should've been 3-1 Everton. Arsenal's defence crumbling, as well as their recent run.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2010, 04:46:08 PM
60,000 at the Emirates today. Really?

As an aside, there is a Gooner who works along with me. He worked all last night and went home at 4am. He'll be in bed at 4.45am. Up at 8.30am, and getting the 11.30 flight out of Aldegrove for the game today. I think his plane back after the game is 8ish, with a view to being back at work Midnight tonight. Clean mad sur.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:47:03 PM
Merida on for Denilson who looks in bad shape.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on January 09, 2010, 04:47:17 PM
The Everton 2nd goal must have been outrageuosly cheeky ??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:48:12 PM
Why did they clear that snow this morning?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 09, 2010, 04:51:06 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2010, 04:46:08 PM
60,000 at the Emirates today. Really?

As an aside, there is a Gooner who works along with me. He worked all last night and went home at 4am. He'll be in bed at 4.45am. Up at 8.30am, and getting the 11.30 flight out of Aldegrove for the game today. I think his plane back after the game is 8ish, with a view to being back at work Midnight tonight. Clean mad sur.


Def would get it tight to catch that flight. Its getting onto the tube after the match is the problem though the tube does go straight to Heathrow.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:51:47 PM
Fair play to Everton - they'd kept the ball in the Arsenal half since the goal. 88 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 09, 2010, 04:53:10 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2010, 04:46:08 PM
60,000 at the Emirates today. Really?

As an aside, there is a Gooner who works along with me. He worked all last night and went home at 4am. He'll be in bed at 4.45am. Up at 8.30am, and getting the 11.30 flight out of Aldegrove for the game today. I think his plane back after the game is 8ish, with a view to being back at work Midnight tonight. Clean mad sur.

Said on BBC text commentary Emirates is nowhere near full.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on January 09, 2010, 04:53:24 PM
5 mins injury time - time for an eqauliser
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on January 09, 2010, 04:54:17 PM
Quote from: orangeman on January 09, 2010, 04:53:24 PM
5 mins injury time - time for an eqauliser


Told you so !!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Schkite on January 09, 2010, 04:54:26 PM
Quote from: orangeman on January 09, 2010, 04:47:17 PM
The Everton 2nd goal must have been outrageuosly cheeky ??

Pienaar one on one with Almunia, as Almunia went to ground Pienaar just scooped it over his head and into the net, great goal.
Good build up play too, very good pass through by Cahill from his own half, though the Arsenal defence were all over the shop.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on January 09, 2010, 04:55:06 PM
2-2


Both Arsenal goals huge defelections.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:55:13 PM
You feckin beauty
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on January 09, 2010, 04:58:17 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:55:13 PM
You feckin beauty

Jammy bastids.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 04:58:39 PM
Almunia wrote off 2 players in one swipe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: boojangles on January 09, 2010, 04:59:14 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 09, 2010, 04:53:10 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2010, 04:46:08 PM
60,000 at the Emirates today. Really?

As an aside, there is a Gooner who works along with me. He worked all last night and went home at 4am. He'll be in bed at 4.45am. Up at 8.30am, and getting the 11.30 flight out of Aldegrove for the game today. I think his plane back after the game is 8ish, with a view to being back at work Midnight tonight. Clean mad sur.

Said on BBC text commentary Emirates is nowhere near full.

60,083 it said on SKY.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on January 09, 2010, 04:59:43 PM
Arsenal will be relieved to get a draw there.


Arsenal looking good.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 05:01:00 PM
2-2. Phew.

Keeps the run going - Arsenal were due a tough one. Good to get within a win of Chelsea with superior goal difference.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 09, 2010, 05:01:17 PM
Could be an important point, awful performance and out-fought by Everton, big Fellini and Cahill instrumental but nice to see the Arse show a bt of character and spirit as according to that clown Macari it's not skill but character that wins you titles  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on January 09, 2010, 05:04:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 09, 2010, 05:01:17 PM
Could be an important point, awful performance and out-fought by Everton, big Fellini and Cahill instrumental but nice to see the Arse show a bt of character and spirit as according to that clown Macari it's not skill but character that wins you titles  ::)


great sides get late goals that the have t have, Arsenal did that, played like shite and still got a point, another traits the really good teams have.

if wegner stops selling off the cream of his squad this arsenal team will be winning premierships for fun.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2010, 05:07:36 PM
Some nerve from Pienaar. Thought the ball was gonna get caught in the mire though when it landed behind Almunia.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 09, 2010, 05:13:11 PM
Big Pat make lots of valid points on Setanta reckons the Prof forced the game to be played but the conditions and mental side (will game go ahead/not etc) suited Everton, hard to argue with that.

Everton will climb the league I'd imagine, not a bad side and I'd be a big fan of angry Tim..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 09, 2010, 05:21:14 PM
Everton reminds me of the Wimbledon team of a few years ago , just when you think your gonna get a easy 3 points they spring a surprise with a battling display
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on January 09, 2010, 05:46:23 PM
Bit of 'Wenger time' today I see  :o :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 09, 2010, 07:53:06 PM
Do you think the Adebayor ran the lenght of the bus yesterday to celebrate in front of the gunners.....?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on January 10, 2010, 02:11:02 AM
Always thought Arsenal should've bought Pienaar from Ajax. Ripped them a new one when he played against them in the CL and has always looked good for everton. Goal today was sublime.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 10, 2010, 09:40:01 AM
As feared, Song was fairly missed for physical presence.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 12, 2010, 06:12:55 PM
Sol to return

Defender Sol Campbell is to play for Arsenal reserves at West Ham on Tuesday as the 35-year-old moves closer to a permanent return to the Gunners.
Former England defender Campbell has been a free agent since being released from his contact with League Two side Notts County in December.
Arsenal say he is playing for the reserves "with a view to a permanent move back to Arsenal Football Club".
Campbell played only one game for Notts County after joining from Portsmouth.
The former Tottenham, Arsenal and Portsmouth defender joined County in August, but left less than a month into a five-year deal.
Campbell, who was capped 73 times by England and played at two World Cups, was keen to resume his career as quickly as possible after settling his contract dispute with County.
It is understood offers were also on the table from Hull and Newcastle, but Arsenal were always Campbell's first choice and he is still held in high regard by manager Arsene Wenger.
"He has a fantastic attitude and good fitness," said Wenger last week.
"Of course he is not the youngest, but he is in a very good shape. He can still play in the Premier League, I've said that many times.
"He is important in the dressing room as well. He's positive with the young players.
"Every year we have one or two like that and I think a Premier League club will sign him."
Campbell spent five years at Arsenal between 2001-2006, during which time he won two Premier League titles, three FA Cups and scored in the 2006 Champions League final defeat by Barcelona.
Wenger's decision to bring back the veteran defender, who will provide cover for Thomas Vermaelen and William Gallas alongside the 32-year-old Mikael Silvestre, will cast further doubt over the future of Philippe Senderos.
Campbell is able to play for Arsenal reserves on Tuesday under a special registration.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 12, 2010, 06:40:35 PM
Better than Senderos, should provide good cover so nice to see the big man back..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 12, 2010, 07:00:41 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 12, 2010, 06:40:35 PM
Better than Senderos, should provide good cover so nice to see the big man back..

A central defense of Berbatov and Voronin would be better than one with Senderos in it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 12, 2010, 07:35:57 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 12, 2010, 07:00:41 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 12, 2010, 06:40:35 PM
Better than Senderos, should provide good cover so nice to see the big man back..

A central defense of Berbatov and Voronin would be better than one with Senderos in it.

The Vog has just been told of this prospective partnership and seems to be a little, how you say in English, aroused.

(http://www.drunkenstepfather.com/cms/ul/20100104-36698PCN_Veronin19.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2010, 08:16:01 PM
There's no way Campbell can be anywhere up to speed with Premier League football. The likes of Torres would surely murder him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 12, 2010, 08:18:21 PM
todays interview
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2030/dsc01155cr.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiffler on January 12, 2010, 08:20:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 12, 2010, 08:16:01 PM
There's no way Campbell can be anywhere up to speed with Premier League football. The likes of Torres would surely murder him.


not too many premier league footballers that are like torres
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 12, 2010, 08:26:45 PM
I heard about Adebayor's outfit and thought it was a wind up! Footballers!!!  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2010, 08:28:08 PM
Campbell played the first half tonight. Kept a clean sheet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 12, 2010, 08:29:00 PM
He obviously didn't plan this "holiday" to Togo. Still doesn't excuse him for wearing it though.

Can't see the sense in Campbell coming back. Surely Arsenal have money to spend to go out and get another player the same way they got Vermalen in the summer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2010, 08:32:24 PM
They all try their hand at being a Gooner  -

(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00437/SNN1627GX1_437399a.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 12, 2010, 08:44:06 PM
I think that's worse. At least Adebayor was wearing his old team's colours. What's Essien's excuse?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 15, 2010, 07:59:24 PM
Straight red for Eboue in ACN.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 15, 2010, 08:02:15 PM
The Arsenal midfield man thundered into poor old Agyemang with a two-footed scissor tackle from behind, near halfway.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 15, 2010, 08:06:47 PM
Hopefully his ban will carry over into the PL...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 17, 2010, 08:29:20 AM
Massive, massive, massive 3 days for Arsenal. Win away and home v Bolton by a combined +4 goal difference and the Gunners are top of the league before the 4 game run against the big clubs. Nervous about today though. Hate playing Bolton and throw in their hero manager's first game......get stuck in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 17, 2010, 05:57:11 PM
Damn Gooners really don't like it up them....

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 18, 2010, 12:33:28 AM
Massive win. Finish the job on Wednesday and then take all 4 games one at a time.

Hopefully Bendtner, Walcott and Clichy will be back by then.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on January 18, 2010, 12:41:08 AM
Quote from: stiffler on January 12, 2010, 08:20:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 12, 2010, 08:16:01 PM
There's no way Campbell can be anywhere up to speed with Premier League football. The likes of Torres would surely murder him.


not too many premier league footballers that are like torres

Its a good job or they would always be injured  :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 18, 2010, 07:57:22 AM
QuoteHopefully Bendtner, Walcott and Clichy will be back by then.

Clichy came on in the 2nd half, nice tactical change by Wenger, brought him into left midfield to give Traore a dig out, it completely annulled Bolton's attacking threat (it was all coming down that side) and made the last 20 quite comfortable. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 18, 2010, 10:51:05 AM
Yea, I mean in the starting line up. If Arsenal can approach the final third of the season with Clichy-Verm-Gallas-Sagna
Walcott-Fab-Song-Nasri
Arshavin-Bendtner

with Rosicky, Eduardo, Diaby and Denilson chomping at the bit, Arsenal have a great chance of lasting the pace. Probably relegate Walcott unless his form returns.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on January 18, 2010, 10:56:24 AM
Is Bendtner going to be any good?  Never impressed with his technique or finishing; but he certainly knows how to get into position up front.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 18, 2010, 11:04:08 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on January 18, 2010, 10:56:24 AM
Is Bendtner going to be any good?  Never impressed with his technique or finishing; but he certainly knows how to get into position up front.

He's always on the verge of being good. Even when Wenger played him out on the wing last year he had his moments. Unfortunately he has that Forlan-at-Utd disease and misses some clinkers. He definitely thinks he's good though.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 18, 2010, 11:07:39 AM
What is going on at the Arsenal training ground though. Nasri and Ramsey both out now for a while.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on January 18, 2010, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 18, 2010, 11:04:08 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on January 18, 2010, 10:56:24 AM
Is Bendtner going to be any good?  Never impressed with his technique or finishing; but he certainly knows how to get into position up front.

He's always on the verge of being good. Even when Wenger played him out on the wing last year he had his moments. Unfortunately he has that Forlan-at-Utd disease and misses some clinkers. He definitely thinks he's good though.

Yeah, I get the impression that his team mates don't share his opinion.  When he does score he seems to come late into the box - not a good portent for a man who wants to lead the line. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 19, 2010, 05:23:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 18, 2010, 10:51:05 AM
Yea, I mean in the starting line up. If Arsenal can approach the final third of the season with Clichy-Verm-Gallas-Sagna
Walcott-Fab-Song-Nasri
Arshavin-Bendtner

with Rosicky, Eduardo, Diaby and Denilson chomping at the bit, Arsenal have a great chance of lasting the pace. Probably relegate Walcott unless his form returns.

Rosicky in for Walcott.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 19, 2010, 05:38:00 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 19, 2010, 05:23:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 18, 2010, 10:51:05 AM
Yea, I mean in the starting line up. If Arsenal can approach the final third of the season with Clichy-Verm-Gallas-Sagna
Walcott-Fab-Song-Nasri
Arshavin-Bendtner

with Rosicky, Eduardo, Diaby and Denilson chomping at the bit, Arsenal have a great chance of lasting the pace. Probably relegate Walcott unless his form returns.


I don't see why they would change to 4-4-2 either. Have been doing well with 4-4-3 so far this year.
Rosicky in for Walcott.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 19, 2010, 05:42:54 PM
Quote
I don't see why they would change to 4-4-2 either. Have been doing well with 4-4-3 so far this year.
Rosicky in for Walcott.

Well if they're getting away with it....

Diaby for Walcott  for me plus I'd leave Eduardo alone in the 4-3-3, 3 goals and 3 assists last 6 games, The Great Dane would make a greater impact off the bench, the missing plan b maybe...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 20, 2010, 12:00:25 PM
Surely Sol Campbell can't be in that much financial problems. No suing Portsmouth for £1.7m which he claims he is owed. I think I read somewhere before that when Campbell was at Portsmouth, he was on of the top 10 earners in the PL, getting well over £100,000 a week. If that's true, then you can see why Portsmouth are in the situation they are in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 20, 2010, 05:52:03 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 20, 2010, 12:00:25 PM
Surely Sol Campbell can't be in that much financial problems. No suing Portsmouth for £1.7m which he claims he is owed. I think I read somewhere before that when Campbell was at Portsmouth, he was on of the top 10 earners in the PL, getting well over £100,000 a week. If that's true, then you can see why Portsmouth are in the situation they are in.

It doesn't matter how much money he has earned. If he's owed the money it should be paid. Why should whoever owns Portsmouth keep this money?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 07:15:51 PM
Arsenal: Almunia, Sagna, Gallas, Vermaelen, Clichy, Fabregas, Denilson, Diaby, Rosicky, Arshavin, Eduardo
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 07:19:16 PM
Subs: Fabianski, Vela, Walcott, Silvestre, Traore, Eastmond, Emmanuel-Thomas
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 20, 2010, 07:39:24 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 07:15:51 PM
Arsenal: Almunia, Sagna, Gallas, Vermaelen, Clichy, Fabregas, Denilson, Diaby, Rosicky, Arshavin, Eduardo

Very strong side out tonight. Only RVP and Song would get in the side if fit/available. No excuses for us tonight if we don't go top.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 20, 2010, 07:59:31 PM
1-0 Bolton, Gary Cahill.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 08:02:11 PM
Sloppy.

Eduardo up front with Arshavin on left.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 20, 2010, 08:04:06 PM
Would Arsenal have the smallest strikeforce in the Premier League? City's must be up there as well - Tevez, Bellamy, Robinho/Petrov/SWP.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 08:17:53 PM
Shambolic (or choking) 0-2
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 20, 2010, 08:19:52 PM
some scoreline :o i'll be expecting a gooners fight back from here
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 20, 2010, 08:20:14 PM
Choking big time - time for the leaders to stand up
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 20, 2010, 08:21:42 PM
How often as arsenal fans have we felt this way - things are nicely set up and then it all goes to shit.

Continual heartbreak.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 20, 2010, 08:22:21 PM
Is this really happening Bolton winning by two goals after 35 minuntes!!!!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 08:27:12 PM
3?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 20, 2010, 08:28:05 PM
think it's still 2 unless i got a delayed stream?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 20, 2010, 08:28:43 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 20, 2010, 08:28:05 PM
think it's still 2 unless i got a delayed stream?
aye never mind that, got confused - it happens a lot
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 08:33:18 PM
Beauty 1-2
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 20, 2010, 08:33:48 PM
Get in there, just before half-time too
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 20, 2010, 08:34:14 PM
as expected  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 20, 2010, 08:36:25 PM
Glad to get that one just before the half. The score was up here before the sky sports website!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 20, 2010, 08:39:13 PM
Should be level in fairness, Song's absence is been felt. Aluminum should have saved the peno too, he won't win the Goons games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 08:39:37 PM
Hope Wenger throws another wobbler.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 08:42:37 PM
WTF is wrong with Arshavin? Way off the pace.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 08:48:29 PM
Goals - http://arsenalist.com/2010/01/20/arsenal-vs-bolton-highlights-wednesday-game/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Declan on January 20, 2010, 09:08:16 PM
2 all but Gallas should have got the line
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 20, 2010, 09:08:57 PM
great goal, what foul.... play on
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 20, 2010, 09:09:14 PM
Super Cesc, awful tackle from Gallas in a 50/50 in the lead up  - should have been a free out.

Need to push on for the winner, creating loads.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:09:27 PM
Certain foul on Bolton player but sure, it's Bolton.

2-2.

Eduardo off pace too. If only Arsenal had a striker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 20, 2010, 09:12:47 PM
3-2
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:13:23 PM
One more lads.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:13:59 PM
Can see Bolton scoring again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 20, 2010, 09:14:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:13:23 PM
One more lads.

Just the 1?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 20, 2010, 09:14:19 PM
one more would be nice, you got there before me oneill
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:15:11 PM
Rosicky, Fabregas and Vermaelan - says a lot about Arsenal's strike force!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 20, 2010, 09:18:32 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 20, 2010, 08:19:52 PM
some scoreline :o i'll be expecting a gooners fight back from here

8)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dakota on January 20, 2010, 09:23:42 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 20, 2010, 09:18:32 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 20, 2010, 08:19:52 PM
some scoreline :o i'll be expecting a gooners fight back from here

8)

You truly are a genius  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:27:31 PM
Davies winning every feckin header.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:28:31 PM
Get Walcott on and get him to run at them - plenty of space.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 20, 2010, 09:31:30 PM
Surprise surprise penalty not given
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on January 20, 2010, 09:32:58 PM
4 - 2 top of the league!!! ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:33:50 PM
Arsenal actually looked buggered.

Hold on, lads.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 20, 2010, 09:34:11 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:15:11 PM
Rosicky, Fabregas and Vermaelan - says a lot about Arsenal's strike force!!

Arshavin!!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 20, 2010, 09:34:24 PM
Oh yes let's go!!!

Lets just stay there now!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on January 20, 2010, 09:35:53 PM
Mighty comeback.  Will make for an interesting few weeks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:36:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 20, 2010, 09:34:11 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:15:11 PM
Rosicky, Fabregas and Vermaelan - says a lot about Arsenal's strike force!!

Arshavin!!!!!  ;)

One bit of magic - it's worth it..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 20, 2010, 09:37:34 PM
It's the heart to come back from 2-0 down that pleases me most about this.

Other years heads would have went down.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 20, 2010, 09:39:11 PM
well i said it before, the next four league games shall show us what this gooners side are made of?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 20, 2010, 09:40:00 PM
I was only kidding anyway. :-\
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 20, 2010, 09:40:42 PM
some comeback
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:41:13 PM
Greedy from Arshavin there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 20, 2010, 09:42:17 PM
2 years ago an horrfic tackle ended Arsenals Title bid, could an horrific tackle 2 years later ignite it, karma is a funny thing..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 20, 2010, 09:43:29 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 20, 2010, 09:39:11 PM
well i said it before, the next four league games shall show us what this gooners side are made of?

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10    Wed        Barclays Premier League    H    Liverpool    19:45    SS1

If we come out of this still on top or thereabouts we have a great chance. Good to see Villa in Cup final around the time we play them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 20, 2010, 09:44:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:41:13 PM
Greedy from Arshavin there.

O'Neill, where are you viewing the match?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:44:50 PM
Yahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Sopcast.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 20, 2010, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:44:50 PM
Yahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Sopcast.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahh

My Sopcast wouldn't load.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on January 20, 2010, 09:50:42 PM
Might get the goals on BBC1 after the Villa match. They have rights for Premiership.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 20, 2010, 09:51:35 PM
Its on Sky at 10pm.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:51:48 PM
goals - http://arsenalist.com/2010/01/20/arsenal-vs-bolton-highlights-wednesday-game/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 20, 2010, 09:54:25 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on January 20, 2010, 09:43:29 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 20, 2010, 09:39:11 PM
well i said it before, the next four league games shall show us what this gooners side are made of?

27      Wed         Barclays Premier League     A      Aston Villa      19:45     
31    Sun        Barclays Premier League    H    Manchester United    16:00    SS1       
07    Sun       Barclays Premier League    A    Chelsea    16:00    SS1    
10    Wed        Barclays Premier League    H    Liverpool    19:45    SS1

If we come out of this still on top or thereabouts we have a great chance. Good to see Villa in Cup final around the time we play them.

Is it not 4 weeks between the Arsenal/ Villa and the LC final?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 20, 2010, 09:56:40 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 20, 2010, 09:54:25 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on January 20, 2010, 09:43:29 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 20, 2010, 09:39:11 PM
well i said it before, the next four league games shall show us what this gooners side are made of?

27      Wed         Barclays Premier League     A      Aston Villa      19:45     
31    Sun        Barclays Premier League    H    Manchester United    16:00    SS1       
07    Sun       Barclays Premier League    A    Chelsea    16:00    SS1    
10    Wed        Barclays Premier League    H    Liverpool    19:45    SS1

If we come out of this still on top or thereabouts we have a great chance. Good to see Villa in Cup final around the time we play them.

Is it not 4 weeks between the Arsenal/ Villa and the LC final?

Yep. Final is on 28th Feb.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 10:00:07 PM
Possibly some change in the league table this Saturday night. Utd beat Hull and Chelsea drop to third in the space of 4 days.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 20, 2010, 10:01:27 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 10:00:07 PM
Possibly some change in the league table this Saturday night. Utd beat Hull and Chelsea drop to third in the space of 4 days.

Ancellotti OUT!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 10:10:43 PM
Well - you have to give Wenger credit for his prediction after Chelsea hammered Arsenal at the Emirates:

Although Wenger accepted the 3-0 reverse was a "big blow" to Arsenal's title chances he said the race was far from over.

"I believe at the moment they are in a very strong position, but this team, for me, they can drop points," he said. "I'm convinced of that. That's an impression I have."


Arsene Knows

(and I realise that this actually could be the highlight of Arsenal's season, these next 3 days!!)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dakota on January 20, 2010, 10:11:09 PM
Did Arsenal not only play Bolton last week?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 10:13:53 PM
As for the game, again very average performances by a sizeable minority of Arsenal players. Eduardo made some cripplingly poor passes, Arshavin hardly touched it, Denilson had a horrendous first half and Rosicky's only real contribution for the majority of the game was the goal. It's remarkable they're top. Fabregas shites gold in every game.

Still disappointed the Russian didn't pass to Walcott.

Savour the moment - it has been a long, long time.

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 20, 2010, 10:25:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:44:50 PM
Yahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Sopcast.

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Owenbeg on January 20, 2010, 10:28:11 PM
Commical defending for 2 goals but quality goals as always. Still think we need a keeper, compare almunia to given,cech,van der sar, renia, and hes not in same league and it could cost us latter in year. Need no nosense defender in the keown/adams mode and definetly need a new forward, big, strong and quick, give then a different threat. wenger says he has the money so he should splash the cash now to keep them at top
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 20, 2010, 10:31:07 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 20, 2010, 10:25:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:44:50 PM
Yahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Sopcast.

(http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/153/caught.gif)

Is that not you watching Utd? Especially Berbatov or a Fergie interview.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dakota on January 20, 2010, 10:32:53 PM
Gallas some tr**p, what had Wenger to say about it ?Did he even see it ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 10:35:35 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 20, 2010, 10:31:07 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 20, 2010, 10:25:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:44:50 PM
Yahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Sopcast.

(http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/153/caught.gif)

Is that not you watching Utd? Especially Berbatov or a Fergie interview.

Looks more like Ronaldo getting word of his Real contract.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Owenbeg on January 20, 2010, 10:40:05 PM
12.10 Sky Sports News understands Arsenal have made an approach for Fulham defender Chris Smalling in a deal which could eventually rise to £7million. However, Fulham want to hang on to the promising young centre-half.
??? ???

Anybody ever heard of him????

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: downtown on January 20, 2010, 10:43:18 PM
That smalling lad scored an own goal v chelsea few weeks ago.  Thats as much as i no bout him! Big big fella though
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 20, 2010, 10:44:17 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 20, 2010, 10:31:07 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 20, 2010, 10:25:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 09:44:50 PM
Yahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Sopcast.

(http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/153/caught.gif)

Is that not you watching Utd? Especially Berbatov or a Fergie interview.


no more like

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 20, 2010, 11:05:12 PM
Quote from: Dakota on January 20, 2010, 10:32:53 PM
Gallas some tr**p, what had Wenger to say about it ?Did he even see it ::)

It was a bad tackle but I don't think the intent was there it was a 50/50 to be won after Davies lost control, probably a yellow and a free out for Bolton.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: bingobus on January 20, 2010, 11:10:33 PM
Just seen the tackle, terrible tackle, nowhere near the ball. Red card for me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 20, 2010, 11:18:30 PM
Quote from: bingobus on January 20, 2010, 11:10:33 PM
Just seen the tackle, terrible tackle, nowhere near the ball. Red card for me.

yep just saw it, shocking but hey Gallas is french what do you expect?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2010, 11:21:30 PM
Does look bad - http://www.videodesport.com/video-tacle-william-gallas-sur-mark-davies-arsenal-bolton/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Videodesport+%28Videodesport%29&utm_content=Twitter
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 20, 2010, 11:22:02 PM
Quote from: bingobus on January 20, 2010, 11:10:33 PM
Just seen the tackle, terrible tackle, nowhere near the ball. Red card for me.

Definite red alright. Could have easily broken an ankle. In fact they said the Bolton player left on crutches for a scan. Not sure what Alan Wiley was looking at to not even give a free. A yellow card or even a free would have been something but to ignore it completely was bizarre. Refs in the Premier League the last couple of years are woeful. It would make you all nostalgic for the days of David Ellery.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 20, 2010, 11:26:41 PM
Thats not that bad a tackle at all, what the hell is all the fuss about?

His eyes are on the ball, and the bolton player gets to it first?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 20, 2010, 11:30:48 PM
It's not a great tackle, but it's not the worst i've seen. Red card would have been harsh as he went for the ball.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 21, 2010, 12:04:50 AM
Coyle is raving about "assault" here? Not on his nelly. Unfortunate tackle, but no malice evident in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 21, 2010, 10:45:31 AM
Just seen the Gallas tackle. Hmmm. It wasn't that bad. I think he went for the ball, and Davies got their first. Maybe slightly high. I think the clumsiness of it merited a red, and definately a free, but don't think their was too much malice in it.

The bigger crime was not stopping, as I think he would've known that he had caused damage.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: bingobus on January 21, 2010, 11:08:24 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 21, 2010, 10:45:31 AM
Just seen the Gallas tackle. Hmmm. It wasn't that bad. I think he went for the ball, and Davies got their first. Maybe slightly high. I think the clumsiness of it merited a red, and definately a free, but don't think their was too much malice in it.

The bigger crime was not stopping, as I think he would've known that he had caused damage.

Spot on. It wasn't intended but still done harm and was dangerous.

He let himself down more by running off straight away to rejoin the attack, he was the only one who knew the contact he made and could have made an effort to halt play.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 21, 2010, 08:16:51 PM
Since signing Sol Campbell, Wenger is rumoured to be bidding for Oprah, Barry White and Luther Vandross in an attempt to switch to a fat black four.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 21, 2010, 10:18:08 PM
no i'll stop your there!

even by your standards that joke is truly awful!

what next? more unexpected winter warmers  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dakota on January 21, 2010, 10:19:19 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 21, 2010, 08:16:51 PM
Since signing Sol Campbell, Wenger is rumoured to be bidding for Oprah, Barry White and Luther Vandross in an attempt to switch to a fat black four.
:D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 21, 2010, 10:19:44 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 21, 2010, 10:18:08 PM
no i'll stop your there!

even by your standards that joke is truly awful!

what next? more unexpected winter warmers  ::)

But i had finished so how could you stop me?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 21, 2010, 11:05:15 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 21, 2010, 10:19:44 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 21, 2010, 10:18:08 PM
no i'll stop your there!

even by your standards that joke is truly awful!

what next? more unexpected winter warmers  ::)

But i had finished so how could you stop me?

Defending Roscommon style.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 22, 2010, 10:04:00 PM
Still top of the league.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on January 22, 2010, 11:24:09 PM
A lad at work yesterday was hoping Tunisia would bate Cameroon in the Africa Cup of Nations. His reasoning being Alex Song would be back for this weekend. This lad is having desperate reservations about Traore at left back but still has him in his fantasy team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on January 22, 2010, 11:25:56 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on January 22, 2010, 11:24:09 PM
A lad at work yesterday was hoping Tunisia would bate Cameroon in the Africa Cup of Nations. His reasoning being Alex Song would be back for this weekend. This lad is having desperate reservations about Traore at left back but still has him in his fantasy team.

Probably because he costs fcuk all.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on January 22, 2010, 11:30:16 PM
True. Traore did though get a handy 6pts for Bolton away clean sheet but just the 1 for the home 'leg'. This guy has over 1,100 pts for the season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 22, 2010, 11:31:34 PM
I was also praying for that too. Close to happening.

v Villa (away)- if they have serious designs on the title they should win that. Draw not end of world.
v Utd (Home) Bate the hoors. Really need to send a message but I see Utd are nearing full squad.
v Chelsea (away) - Be v happy with a draw
v Liverpool (home) - If Torres and gerrard missing, they need to win it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on January 22, 2010, 11:53:36 PM
But Alex Song will be back for them ;)

Africa Cup of Nations is ridiculous with it (1) being in Jan and (2) being in the same year as the World up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2010, 11:44:05 AM
Nuisance game today. Hopefully he rests the two central defenders as they've barely had a rest in months. I'd expect Walcott and Vela to get a start and a few other reserves.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2010, 01:38:14 PM
Great start for Campbell. 65 secs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: aontroim on January 24, 2010, 03:14:52 PM
GAME OVER!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dakota on January 24, 2010, 03:15:21 PM
3-1 Stoke
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 24, 2010, 03:25:07 PM
Team selection showed Wengers priorities, the 5th round is the weekend before the CL one presumes he's probably delighted Arsenal are out.

Stoke fully deserved win but jaysus I'd hate to have to watch that every week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dakota on January 24, 2010, 03:30:36 PM
His face at the end didn't look like he was to delighted, strange he wouldn't want to won FA Cup seeing as it's so long since they have won anything and haven't a hope of winning Champions League
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 24, 2010, 03:37:27 PM
Quotehaven't a hope of winning Champions League

What a strange statement.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 24, 2010, 04:03:54 PM
Eggs and basket(s). This puts pressure on AW now to win either the league or Cl or it's another silverless year. IMHO of course.

BTW> Did you see the effort of Denilson for the second??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 24, 2010, 04:10:35 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 24, 2010, 04:03:54 PM
Eggs and basket(s). This puts pressure on AW now to win either the league or Cl or it's another silverless year. IMHO of course.


What pressure? The board won't sack Wenger and the Arsenals fans will whinge but they won't ask for his head, he'll want from within but that's a different pressure from what you and bad football writers who need copy will write.

QuoteBTW> Did you see the effort of Denilson for the second??

Awful, can't see what the likes of him or Lucas, Mikel and Anderson offer. Poor players riding on the coat tails of superior players.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 24, 2010, 05:28:30 PM
I see AW cracking in front of bad football writers regularly!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on January 24, 2010, 05:34:47 PM
Sad to say but the FA Cup has become a bit of an inconvenience. Sure Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool would like to be in it still, but as the dust settles and an FA Cup Saturday comes around and these clubs can rest players and better prepare for mid week matches. Champions League, Champions League places and retaining Premiership status are the prime goals in the money rich game. The Europa league, Carling Cup and FA Cup are inconveniences where the only bonus is to give new signings, fringe players and sub goalies games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 24, 2010, 05:41:47 PM
I saw that Sol Campbell was playing.  How did he do and that must be some kick in the nuts to Senderos.

Sol Campbell for South Africa?  What odds would you get on that?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on January 24, 2010, 05:44:12 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 24, 2010, 05:41:47 PM
I saw that Sol Campbell was playing.  How did he do and that must be some kick in the nuts to Senderos.

Sol Campbell for South Africa?  What odds would you get on that?

Ahh he might go and work as a steward or something like that....  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 24, 2010, 05:44:49 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 24, 2010, 05:44:12 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 24, 2010, 05:41:47 PM
I saw that Sol Campbell was playing.  How did he do and that must be some kick in the nuts to Senderos.

Sol Campbell for South Africa?  What odds would you get on that?

Ahh he might go and work as a steward or something like that....  ;D

I'd prefer Gregory Campbell to Senderos.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 24, 2010, 05:45:15 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 24, 2010, 05:41:47 PM
I saw that Sol Campbell was playing.  How did he do and that must be some kick in the nuts to Senderos.

Sol Campbell for South Africa?  What odds would you get on that?

He was like a Black Senderos, good at times, bad at times, slow all the time..

Zero chance of going to SA.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 24, 2010, 06:41:13 PM
Dinny what your honest Opinion on the Arsenal Team Selections for Cup games?

for the past couple of Seasons Wenger has been putting all his eggs in one basket yet it backfires! does Wenger really think it will be any different this season?

2005 since you last wonrobbed a cup, if i was a Gonners fan i wouldn't be too happy
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 24, 2010, 06:43:25 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 24, 2010, 06:41:13 PM
Dinny what your honest Opinion on the Arsenal Team Selections for Cup games?

for the past couple of Seasons Wenger has been putting all his eggs in one basket yet it backfires! does Wenger really think it will be any different this season?

2005 since you last wonrobbed a cup, if i was a Gonners fan i wouldn't be too happy

If you were a 'Gonners' or even a Gunners fan I'd be distraught.

Grand at the moment though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 24, 2010, 06:59:11 PM
QuoteDinny what your honest Opinion on the Arsenal Team Selections for Cup games?

Ross4life, while I'm an Arsenal fan I would never lose sleep over Wengers selections, i don't see the point in debating it as it's not something that stirs my passions hence I don't have an opinion on it, sorry. Also the FA Cup is not something stirs my soul either, I'd struggle to name the last 4 winners and was listening to the Kildare O'Byrne cup game on the radio with only a passing look at the TV to see what the score in the Arsenal game was.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 24, 2010, 07:08:16 PM
fair Enough Dinny but i kinda have the same feeling about United Cup Games because fergie more often than not chooses to pick weakened team

but you Can't tell me your lack of interest hasn't anything to do with Wenger's Team selections?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on January 24, 2010, 07:22:55 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 24, 2010, 06:41:13 PM
Dinny what your honest Opinion on the Arsenal Team Selections for Cup games?

for the past couple of Seasons Wenger has been putting all his eggs in one basket yet it backfires! does Wenger really think it will be any different this season?

2005 since you last wonrobbed a cup, if i was a Gonners fan i wouldn't be too happy

I would, there in quite a good position financially.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on January 24, 2010, 09:35:54 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 24, 2010, 05:44:49 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on January 24, 2010, 05:44:12 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 24, 2010, 05:41:47 PM
I saw that Sol Campbell was playing.  How did he do and that must be some kick in the nuts to Senderos.

Sol Campbell for South Africa?  What odds would you get on that?

Ahh he might go and work as a steward or something like that....  ;D

I'd prefer Gregory Campbell to Senderos.

:D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on January 25, 2010, 02:49:59 AM
Quote from: Galwaybhoy on January 24, 2010, 07:22:55 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 24, 2010, 06:41:13 PM
Dinny what your honest Opinion on the Arsenal Team Selections for Cup games?

for the past couple of Seasons Wenger has been putting all his eggs in one basket yet it backfires! does Wenger really think it will be any different this season?

2005 since you last wonrobbed a cup, if i was a Gonners fan i wouldn't be too happy

I would, there in quite a good position financially.

Might be grand now, but they're only 0.1% away from having a loving American owner of their own.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 27, 2010, 07:32:51 PM
Get wired in.

Almunia, Sagna, Gallas, Vermaelen, Clichy, Denilson, Fabregas, Ramsey, Rosicky, Eduardo, Arshavin /// Subs: Fabianski, Nasri, Walcott, Traore, Campbell, Eastmond, Bendtner
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Owenbeg on January 27, 2010, 07:35:32 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 27, 2010, 07:32:51 PM
Get wired in.

Almunia, Sagna, Gallas, Vermaelen, Clichy, Denilson, Fabregas, Ramsey, Rosicky, Eduardo, Arshavin /// Subs: Fabianski, Nasri, Walcott, Traore, Campbell, Eastmond, Bendtner
[/quote

Bench looks a hell of alot stronger tonite. Tough game thou
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 27, 2010, 07:47:28 PM
Denilson  :-X
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 27, 2010, 07:57:30 PM
You watch that defence and think there's no way they could win a title. Awfully shaky.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 27, 2010, 08:04:51 PM
17 mins - Arsenal haven't really got their passing game going. Villa fired up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 27, 2010, 08:08:09 PM
Hey O'Neill, what sopcast channel u watching on, can't get a good stream
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 27, 2010, 08:09:10 PM
'Yes'

Even though it loads ok, there'll be a blank screen for 3-4 mins, then it'll kick in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: downtown on January 27, 2010, 08:12:40 PM
have you a web address for that o neill
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 27, 2010, 08:25:50 PM
Quote from: downtown on January 27, 2010, 08:12:40 PM
have you a web address for that o neill

'No'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 27, 2010, 08:47:24 PM
Quote from: downtown on January 27, 2010, 08:12:40 PM
have you a web address for that o neill
check out myp2p.eu

Horrible performance from Arsenal so far. Cesc carrying team again, almost scored a wonder goal. Arshavin, Eduardo, Ramsey and Denilson are having shockers. 0-0 at HT
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 27, 2010, 09:09:20 PM
good 2nd half, The Big Dane is on, the script awaits his greatness..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 27, 2010, 09:11:52 PM
Bendtner on the wing and Rosicky up front? Looks like that. Opening up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 27, 2010, 09:40:07 PM
0-0

good defensive performance, had chances (hit the woodwork twice). Fair result I think.

Sunday is a must - extra-time at OT would be nice
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 27, 2010, 09:42:56 PM
Yes, also agree a fair result, even though Arsenal hit post and crossbar. I really enjoyed Campbell's performance tonight. Just what Arsenal needed and maybe a better option than Gallas? You could see him directing proceedings and even gave Almunia a few rockets. Denilson is a liability.

You have to laugh at Bendtner. He really does think he's Pele.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 27, 2010, 09:50:46 PM
Yea big Sol did well, the Goons actually looked comfortable-ish under the long ball - could be an asute signing..
Quote
Denilson is a liability.

Aye - did his best at the end to lose the game - thank God Song is back for Sunday.

QuoteYou have to laugh at Bendtner. He really does think he's Pele.

He's a legend, had a chance to slip a pass through in the Villa box but in his head dribbling past 3 defenders was the easier option. He could be the new Song though...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 27, 2010, 11:35:12 PM
FFS you couldn't make this shit up

Vermaelen may have suffered a broken leg

QuoteArsenal manager Arsene Wenger fears defender Thomas Vermaelen may have suffered a broken leg during Wednesday's 0-0 draw at Aston Villa.

The 24-year-old Belgium international limped off after 35 minutes at Villa Park and was replaced by Sol Campbell.

"The news is not good," Gunners boss Arsene Wenger told BBC Sport. "He will have an X-ray on Thursday morning.

"He is on crutches. It could be a fracture to the top of the fibula. We'll have to wait and see."

Wenger added: "Whether it is just a nerve problem or the bone is broken is what we have to check on."

Vermaelen joined Arsenal from Ajax last summer and has started all 23 of their Premier League games this season.

He has scored six goals in all competitions and formed an impressive centre-half partnership with Williams Gallas.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on January 27, 2010, 11:42:12 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 27, 2010, 11:35:12 PM
FFS you couldn't make this shit up

Vermaelen may have suffered a broken leg

QuoteArsenal manager Arsene Wenger fears defender Thomas Vermaelen may have suffered a broken leg during Wednesday's 0-0 draw at Aston Villa.

The 24-year-old Belgium international limped off after 35 minutes at Villa Park and was replaced by Sol Campbell.

"The news is not good," Gunners boss Arsene Wenger told BBC Sport. "He will have an X-ray on Thursday morning.

"He is on crutches. It could be a fracture to the top of the fibula. We'll have to wait and see."

Wenger added: "Whether it is just a nerve problem or the bone is broken is what we have to check on."

Vermaelen joined Arsenal from Ajax last summer and has started all 23 of their Premier League games this season.

He has scored six goals in all competitions and formed an impressive centre-half partnership with Williams Gallas.

Very bad news if it is broken, a hell of a player Arsenal will really miss.

United to win 3-1 Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 28, 2010, 05:07:41 PM
Good news for the Vermaelator, the leg is not broken...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 28, 2010, 05:09:05 PM
Great news for arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: bingobus on January 28, 2010, 05:12:37 PM
Forget Arsenal and Vermaelen, great news for my Fantasy football team  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 28, 2010, 05:27:36 PM
The Great Dane has spoken, selective quotes from Football365 report :-

Quote"Is this a chance to become the number one striker? That is my plan. Is it achievable? Of course.

"Why am I so confident? It is simple. I am a good player. I've always had that belief. People ask me everytime we speak 'why are you like that?' and that's just the way it is.

"If I didn't think I could do it, I wouldn't be standing here telling you I could!"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 28, 2010, 06:17:31 PM
I don't think United will win on Sunday. They are playing a good team and Rooney will show his true character and do nothing. In fact I predict a gloomy scenario for United...4-0 to the home team. :'(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 28, 2010, 06:27:45 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 28, 2010, 06:17:31 PM
I don't think United will win on Sunday. They are playing a good team and Rooney will show his true character and do nothing. In fact I predict a gloomy scenario for United...4-0 to the home team. :'(

you are talking about the same Arsenal Team that were hammered at home by Chelsea a few Weeks ago?

this Game has Score Draw written all over it! but hopefully united can nick it with yet another late Goal 8)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 28, 2010, 06:52:55 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 28, 2010, 06:27:45 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 28, 2010, 06:17:31 PM
I don't think United will win on Sunday. They are playing a good team and Rooney will show his true character and do nothing. In fact I predict a gloomy scenario for United...4-0 to the home team. :'(

you are talking about the same Arsenal Team that were hammered at home by Chelsea a few Weeks ago?

2 months ago actually.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 28, 2010, 09:31:50 PM
Arsenal game to be shown in 3D this weekend in selected pubs across the UK and Ireland, including 1 in Dublin.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11096_5889013,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11096_5889013,00.html)

Any of use on any of the Arsenal forums to find out where it is being broadcast? I'll be in Manchester at the weekend so would be interested to see it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 28, 2010, 09:35:53 PM
Don't think they have announced the pubs yet, open to correction.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 28, 2010, 09:37:58 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 28, 2010, 09:35:53 PM
Don't think they have announced the pubs yet, open to correction.

f**kers. If you manage to find out through any other forums can you let me know? Would imagine there would be a big demand for it as it's the first game. Though good chance it could be in the Utd end of Manchester as involving Utd, well in that case it wouldn't be in Manchester at all  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Worker on January 28, 2010, 09:43:44 PM
Hope you stay out of obsessions gentlemen's club archie. the bouncers arent too welcoming after your 'performance' the last time you frequented the premises.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on January 28, 2010, 09:43:51 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 28, 2010, 06:17:31 PM
I don't think United will win on Sunday. They are playing a good team and Rooney will show his true character and do nothing. In fact I predict a gloomy scenario for United...4-0 to the home team. :'(

You are dreaming mate.

With Vermaelin out that probably means a start for the Sol Campbell, United will fancy Rooney chances of getting a goal or two, or a penalty or two against Campbell.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Worker on January 28, 2010, 09:45:57 PM
Quote from: stew on January 28, 2010, 09:43:51 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 28, 2010, 06:17:31 PM
I don't think United will win on Sunday. They are playing a good team and Rooney will show his true character and do nothing. In fact I predict a gloomy scenario for United...4-0 to the home team. :'(

You are dreaming mate.

With Vermaelin out that probably means a start for the Sol Campbell, United will fancy Rooney chances of getting a goal or two, or a penalty or two against Campbell.

he has a history of diving for penalties against campbell right enough
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on January 28, 2010, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: The Worker on January 28, 2010, 09:43:44 PM
Hope you stay out of obsessions gentlemen's club archie. the bouncers arent too welcoming after your 'performance' the last time you frequented the premises.

Lies. Know plenty of skeletons in your closet though. The Robinsons wouldn't have a look in!  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Worker on January 28, 2010, 09:58:13 PM
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on January 28, 2010, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: The Worker on January 28, 2010, 09:43:44 PM
Hope you stay out of obsessions gentlemen's club archie. the bouncers arent too welcoming after your 'performance' the last time you frequented the premises.

Lies. Know plenty of skeletons in your closet though. The Robinsons wouldn't have a look in!  :D

archie make sure u get ur northern bank notes changed to bank of england notes. dont think them call girls accept them!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 28, 2010, 10:19:49 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 28, 2010, 06:52:55 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 28, 2010, 06:27:45 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 28, 2010, 06:17:31 PM
I don't think United will win on Sunday. They are playing a good team and Rooney will show his true character and do nothing. In fact I predict a gloomy scenario for United...4-0 to the home team. :'(

you are talking about the same Arsenal Team that were hammered at home by Chelsea a few Weeks ago?

2 months ago actually.

Wow that long ago! i remember that day well... walking along the beach in Playa del Inglés Gran Canaria, popping over to the local beach Bar to see could Arsenal do united a favour?

i checked the big screen to see Arsenal 0 Chelsea 3 (let's just say the cocktails didn't taste as nice after that)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 29, 2010, 10:58:44 PM
Bad feeling about this.

Worst case - Utd hammer Arsenal a la CL SF last year. 0-2 or 0-3. League season over.

Arsenal scrape 1-1 or 0-0. Chelsea stride ahead.

I just can't see Arsenal winning. Rooney is the most fanstatic talent and is finally getting the delivery he needs. Fabregas is ploughing a lonely one.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 29, 2010, 11:10:22 PM
And our mate Senderos is away. He never recovered from this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib06W_tWkLA&feature=related
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on January 29, 2010, 11:27:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 29, 2010, 10:58:44 PM
Bad feeling about this.

Worst case - Utd hammer Arsenal a la CL SF last year. 0-2 or 0-3. League season over.

Arsenal scrape 1-1 or 0-0. Chelsea stride ahead.

I just can't see Arsenal winning. Rooney is the most fanstatic talent and is finally getting the delivery he needs. Fabregas is ploughing a lonely one.

Do you ever write what you actually mean or are you always full of shite?


The Arse do tend to lose to United when they absolutely have to get a result, that hopefully will continue.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 29, 2010, 11:50:55 PM
Quote from: stew on January 29, 2010, 11:27:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 29, 2010, 10:58:44 PM
Bad feeling about this.

Worst case - Utd hammer Arsenal a la CL SF last year. 0-2 or 0-3. League season over.

Arsenal scrape 1-1 or 0-0. Chelsea stride ahead.

I just can't see Arsenal winning. Rooney is the most fanstatic talent and is finally getting the delivery he needs. Fabregas is ploughing a lonely one.

Do you ever write what you actually mean or are you always full of shite?


The Arse do tend to lose to United when they absolutely have to get a result, that hopefully will continue.

What's shite about that? I'm not blinkered.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hassletravel on January 30, 2010, 08:43:56 AM
Arsenal have a lot of players coming back, two one to arsenal
Title: O'Neill has some go at Wenger.
Post by: ONeill on January 30, 2010, 12:10:30 PM
Angry Martin O'Neill tells Arsène Wenger to keep opinions to himself



Martin O'Neill last night delivered a withering attack on Arsène Wenger, accusing the Arsenal manager of being obsessed with his own importance and describing him as someone who has an opinion on every subject in the world. The Aston Villa manager, who remains furious with Wenger's jibe after Wednesday's goalless draw that his side "play a very long-ball game", also suggested the Frenchman was deluded to believe his own team set the standard and claimed that he might "learn something" from watching Barcelona.

O'Neill revealed how he felt compelled to confront Wenger after Wednesday's match to tell the Arsenal manager just how unhappy he was with his comments. Almost 48 hours later and there was no evidence that the Northern Irishman's mood had mellowed as he strongly defended his methods and tore into Wenger again, including accusing him of using Arsenal's style of play as a convenient excuse for their failure to compete with Chelsea and Manchester United.

"[Wenger's remarks] have actually caused a bit of amusement within the camp [among people] like James Milner, Ashley Young and Stewart Downing," O'Neill said. "Long ball suggests that you are in there all day battling for things. But it is interesting, in the last 20 minutes of the game, I didn't count them, but he did actually bring on a 6ft 3in centre-forward [Nicklas Bendtner], and hit him about six times in the game from [Gaël] Clichy and his people. So it is a nonsense.

"It is interesting, the point he makes, that nobody can play football in the manner that they do. If he believes that, good luck to him," said O'Neill. "He might want to take a wee look at Barcelona: he might learn something, as we all could. Anybody worth their salt would want to aspire to playing like Barcelona, it is a wonderful thing. You have to have really, really gifted players.

"What we are doing here, and I don't care what anybody says, we have flair players picking the ball up, attacking. I thought Ashley Young was fantastic on Wednesday night. We have been more creative now than at any time in the three and a half years that I have been here, primarily because we have more creative players on the field at the same time."

O'Neill acknowledged Wenger is a "top-quality manager" but, echoing the thoughts of José Mourinho when he was in charge at Chelsea, believes the Frenchman is too quick to wade into territory that has nothing to do with him. The Villa manager claimed that at times Wenger is saying things for "effect" and suggested that, on other occasions, in particular when the subject matter concerns Arsenal and his own players, he would benefit from being more honest.

"He has an opinion on everything," O'Neill said. "There is not a subject in this world at this minute, political, religious, anything, that he does not have an opinion on. I really don't mind, I just don't want it shoved down my throat. If I totally and utterly disagree with his opinion, I will say so. I'm not the only one to disagree with him. He does say things for effect. When he talks about this particular Arsenal side, and teams going out deliberately to kick them, nobody does that. Manchester United wouldn't do that."

He added: "You can get carried away with your own importance, you really can. Sometimes he does. He has made a great contribution to the game here, but he is not on a different planet. He is a very skilful manager – well done him, but he has another record, like he has had something like 99 sendings-off this year, and 98 of them weren't his fault. That is the problem."

"There are things that happen in the game that you cannot always be fantastically proud of your team," said O'Neill. claimed that Wenger had "conveniently forgotten" how his Arsenal teams from yesteryear were also capable of "dishing it out" at times, saying: "There can be some nasty challenges made by Arsenal players. You cannot condone everything. If what you say stands up, and people can see it, people will accept it. But I don't think there is any acceptance with his [latest] comments. We will continue to play in the manner in which we play until we drop."

The Villa manager believes Wenger's outspoken remarks and reactions to decisions are often "deliberate ploys", aimed to deflect attention from Arsenal's shortcomings and, in some cases, influence referees: "What he wants to do is try and point out to everyone who is under his spell that Arsenal are the only delightful team around. When you are looking for that, you can spot a weakness. You are trying to get an excuse ready if you cannot compete with Manchester United and Chelsea. That is the point. The fact is they probably are able to compete, because they have enough physical players in their side to cope."

"He is trying to influence things. He knows the game inside out. Does this mean that an Arsenal player does not make a tackle? Richard Dunne was actually fouled going through in the last minute of the game [on Wednesday], a clear foul. They do actually foul players. [But] there is a plan throughout. If he puts his hands in the air enough times, they will probably accept the fact that he can see it from that distance, that Sol Campbell hadn't fouled Richard Dunne, and the referee obviously agrees with him."

O'Neill did, however, reflect that Wenger's comments had "brought a bit of merriment" to Villa's training ground this weekand joked his players are going to "blitz" Fulham with their long-ball game at Craven Cottage today. He also suggested the fallout from a particular Champions League tie this year would be interesting. "We should hold opinions until Arsenal play Barcelona," added O'Neill. ". And if they lose to Barcelona, Barcelona will be considered a long-ball team."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jan/30/martin-oneill-arsene-wenger
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 30, 2010, 12:25:39 PM
QuoteThe Villa manager believes Wenger's outspoken remarks and reactions to decisions are often "deliberate ploys", aimed to deflect attention from Arsenal's shortcomings

Ah delicious irony, wonder what team is now having their now traditional post-Christmas choke/slump.

Wenger must have touched a nerve anyway, Martin O'Neill has there ever been a more over-rated manager?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 30, 2010, 01:28:28 PM
He really has touched a nerve. The thing about it all is that Wenger's comment wasn't a criticism. He was commenting on how difficult Villa were to play against. The reporter was being a bit mischievous and took that sentence and put it to O'Neill.

You'll miss that when Wenger goes. He's good value for the post-match comments especially if they have lost or drawn.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2010, 12:24:05 PM
Get wired in.

I'd say Clichy - Gallas - Campbell - Sagna
Arshavin - Rosicky - Fabregas - Song - Nasri
Bender
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: centre 3/4s on January 31, 2010, 04:38:03 PM
That cnut almunia again
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 04:42:19 PM
Almunia I give up on and that Denilson could have cleared the 2nd if had half the desire of Rooney, two awful goals to give away meanwhile the Arse waste chance after chance...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 31, 2010, 04:58:18 PM
I was been sarcastic about my prediction the other day! Just all the Gooners saying Rooney only scores against Hull and all those crap teams.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 31, 2010, 05:11:29 PM
On  way home from work. Anybody  good links save me looking.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dakota on January 31, 2010, 05:13:10 PM
Quote from: gerry on January 31, 2010, 05:11:29 PM
On  way good from work. Anybody  good links save me looking.

Hope you didn't drive home seeing as you are obviously drunk
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 05:14:32 PM
QuoteJust all the Gooners saying Rooney only scores against Hull and all those crap teams.

You can add Arsenal to that list of crap teams
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on January 31, 2010, 05:16:58 PM
GONE!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 31, 2010, 05:21:28 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 05:14:32 PM
QuoteJust all the Gooners saying Rooney only scores against Hull and all those crap teams.

You can add Arsenal to that list of crap teams

Arsenal are not Crap! just the 3rd best team in England
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dakota on January 31, 2010, 05:23:02 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 31, 2010, 05:21:28 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 05:14:32 PM
QuoteJust all the Gooners saying Rooney only scores against Hull and all those crap teams.

You can add Arsenal to that list of crap teams

Arsenal are not Crap! just the 3rd best team in England

You spend an awful amount of time on here when your beloved team are playing...............
Small minds have small attention spans I suppose
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 31, 2010, 05:27:16 PM
Quote from: Dakota on January 31, 2010, 05:23:02 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 31, 2010, 05:21:28 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 05:14:32 PM
QuoteJust all the Gooners saying Rooney only scores against Hull and all those crap teams.

You can add Arsenal to that list of crap teams

Arsenal are not Crap! just the 3rd best team in England

You spend an awful amount of time on here when your beloved team are playing...............
Small minds have small attention spans I suppose

this whole Gaaboard thing is not working out for you is it??

(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2230/26277qt8.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dakota on January 31, 2010, 05:28:05 PM
Interesting and yet strange response...You not watching the game?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 31, 2010, 05:39:43 PM
Quote from: Dakota on January 31, 2010, 05:13:10 PM
Quote from: gerry on January 31, 2010, 05:11:29 PM
On  way home from work. Anybody  good links save me looking.

Hope you didn't drive home seeing as you are obviously drunk

thats right
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on January 31, 2010, 06:05:40 PM
If ever a team flatter to decieve it's arsenal. Players like nasri, bentdner, eboue (first contribution to fall on his ar$e), almunia, eduardo, rosicky, denilson and walcott are not of the standard nor have the character to win titles. Serious questions must also be asked of wenger who pit a b team out for a winnable fa cup and who Has failed to strengthen the team now on several occasions where they may have had a chance of doing something. How does rafa get calls for the sack and wenger is untouchable.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 06:10:51 PM
In hind-sight that game could have ended 6-6, alas Man U should why their are champions and Ferguson why he is the best manager of all time where the team is everything and he gets average players to consistently play above themselves. Very clinical performance from them, Fabregas, Rosicky and Nasri all below par, mentally Arsenal just don't have the experience to compete in these games.

Chelsea might switch off next week and if Arsenal can seek a point they have a the easier run in and will probably finish the season unbeaten which will give them a chance, lose badly though next week and I wouldn't be surprised if they finished out of the top four.

What has happened Clichy?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on January 31, 2010, 06:20:35 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on January 31, 2010, 06:05:40 PM
If ever a team flatter to decieve it's arsenal. Players like nasri, bentdner, eboue (first contribution to fall on his ar$e), almunia, eduardo, rosicky, denilson and walcott are not of the standard nor have the character to win titles. Serious questions must also be asked of wenger who pit a b team out for a winnable fa cup and who Has failed to strengthen the team now on several occasions where they may have had a chance of doing something. How does rafa get calls for the sack and wenger is untouchable.

Wegner is light years ahead of benitez as a manager, he has done wonders with the arsenal youngsters bringing them on and all rafa can do is sign expensive duds and lose to teams on a consistent basis they should be beating.

Wegner is not untouchable but tell me this, if he were to go who could do better that Wegner?

I'd say nobody, Arsenal would do well to keep him, Liverpool should get rid of that clown benitez as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 06:26:36 PM
Well done on you prediction Stew, very Cassandra like ya fecker...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on January 31, 2010, 06:36:05 PM
Quote from: stew on January 31, 2010, 06:20:35 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on January 31, 2010, 06:05:40 PM
If ever a team flatter to decieve it's arsenal. Players like nasri, bentdner, eboue (first contribution to fall on his ar$e), almunia, eduardo, rosicky, denilson and walcott are not of the standard nor have the character to win titles. Serious questions must also be asked of wenger who pit a b team out for a winnable fa cup and who Has failed to strengthen the team now on several occasions where they may have had a chance of doing something. How does rafa get calls for the sack and wenger is untouchable.

Wegner is light years ahead of benitez as a manager, he has done wonders with the arsenal youngsters bringing them on and all rafa can do is sign expensive duds and lose to teams on a consistent basis they should be beating.

Wegner is not untouchable but tell me this, if he were to go who could do better that Wegner?

I'd say nobody, Arsenal would do well to keep him, Liverpool should get rid of that clown benitez as soon as possible.

There are plenty of managers who would do as good as Wenger has done over the last 6 years. They probably would not play attractive football, hide behind the endless talk of bringing young players through and show little or no respect for the domestic Cups. But i'd bet they'd still qualify for knockout rounds of the Champions league and finish 3rd or 4th in the league.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on January 31, 2010, 06:37:03 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 06:26:36 PM
Well done on you prediction Stew, very Cassandra like ya fecker...

here dinny, i wish i had a bet on that socreline, twenty quid would have been a nice bet, i am sure i would have gotten about 20-1 odds.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 06:55:08 PM
QuoteThere are plenty of managers who would do as good as Wenger has done over the last 6 years. They probably would not play attractive football, hide behind the endless talk of bringing young players through and show little or no respect for the domestic Cups. But i'd bet they'd still qualify for knockout rounds of the Champions league and finish 3rd or 4th in the league.

Really, who are these magical managers? And at the same time it would be a bit stupid to bring in some who will get the same results but playing less entertaining football in what is after all an enterntainment business.

You didn't answer the question, what manager could bring Arsenal onto a higher level?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on January 31, 2010, 07:00:38 PM
QuoteAlmunia I give up on and that Denilson could have cleared the 2nd if had half the desire of Rooney, two awful goals to give away meanwhile the Arse waste chance after chance...

hmm... Arsenal did have a couple of chances but a fair reflection of scoring chances would be about 5-2 to united.  'Dominated' would not be too strong a word to sum up Arsenal's day
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 07:17:16 PM
Don't be so rose tinted, Man U deserved the win but Arsenal had 7 shots on target to Man U's 5 and had 11 off-target shots compared to Man U's 6, throw in 8 corners to 5 and it's obvious Arsenal wasted their chance whereas Man U were far more clinical and mentally a hell of a lot stronger.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on January 31, 2010, 07:47:00 PM
QuoteQuote
There are plenty of managers who would do as good as Wenger has done over the last 6 years. They probably would not play attractive football, hide behind the endless talk of bringing young players through and show little or no respect for the domestic Cups. But i'd bet they'd still qualify for knockout rounds of the Champions league and finish 3rd or 4th in the league.

Really, who are these magical managers? And at the same time it would be a bit stupid to bring in some who will get the same results but playing less entertaining football in what is after all an enterntainment business.

You didn't answer the question, what manager could bring Arsenal onto a higher level?
.

rafa - and I'm not a fan of his either - has at least secured a cl title for Liverpool in the past 5 years. What has wenger done in that time? If the ambitions of arsenal fans are limited to finishing 3 or 4 in the epl and playing pretty football then fair enough. The myth of the arsenal youngsters  is also Bullsh1t. Fabregas was stolen from barca for a start and what other youngster has helped arsenal win anything? They preen about in the carling cup, until getting put out in the semis. That's it.

In terms of managers who could take arsenal to the next level I would suggest mourinho and hiddinck for starters.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 31, 2010, 07:48:47 PM
I hear Gary Megson is available.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on January 31, 2010, 07:55:02 PM
Is the real story at Arsenal not the fact that since they built the emirates they have not had the money to sign top line players. Wenger has built a strategy of bringing through young players and selling them on for a profit, Adebayor, Toure etc. I think he has done well to maintain a champions league position and I think his spin is amazing. "We have millions to spend but dont because my young players are good enough" meanwhile signing Sol Campbell and Mikhael Silvestre as centre half cover. It is patent nonsense but Arsenal fans keep swallowing it. Whatever you think of Wenger you have to admit he can argue that a black crow is white and people believe him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 07:55:38 PM
QuoteIn terms of managers who could take arsenal to the next level I would suggest mourinho and hiddinck for starters.

I would say that would be your starters, main course and dessert, Hiddink hasn't won anything of signifigance since the 88 European Cup, when it was knockout, it has won no league title outside of Holland and failed miserably in Spain with Madrid and Betis, his myth is greater than the fact.

Mourhino won't be right for Arsenal and without an open cheque book I'd have my doubts about him too be honest.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: slow corner back on January 31, 2010, 07:59:55 PM
Mourinhio won the Eufa cup and European cup with Porto without any stand out expensive players. He has won leagues in Portugal,England and Italy now. Much as I dislike the man he is a very succesful manager by any standards.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 31, 2010, 08:02:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 07:17:16 PM
Don't be so rose tinted, Man U deserved the win but Arsenal had 7 shots on target to Man U's 5 and had 11 off-target shots compared to Man U's 6, throw in 8 corners to 5 and it's obvious Arsenal wasted their chance whereas Man U were far more clinical and mentally a hell of a lot stronger.

fair point with the stats but nearly all united's off target shot's could have been goals & i don't think Arsenal would have got half those chances if Rio & vidic was playing?

the main point from today's game was United's pace & movement that ripped apart Arsenal's first choice back four & that has to be a major worry for Wenger
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on January 31, 2010, 08:11:34 PM
QuoteQuote
In terms of managers who could take arsenal to the next level I would suggest mourinho and hiddinck for starters.

I would say that would be your starters, main course and dessert, Hiddink hasn't won anything of signifigance since the 88 European Cup, when it was knockout, it has won no league title outside of Holland and failed miserably in Spain with Madrid and Betis, his myth is greater than the fact.

Mourhino won't be right for Arsenal and without an open cheque book I'd have my doubts about him too be honest.
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hiddinck won the FA cup with Chelsea. So I guess that's the first argument taken care of.

Jose will have won 6 leagues in the last 7 years if Inter take the title this time round. So I guess he wouldn't be right for arsenal who seem to prefer pretty losers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 08:21:16 PM
Quotehiddinck won the FA cup with Chelsea. So I guess that's the first argument taken care of.

What is significant about that? League titles and Champions Leagues are what I consider significant.

Mourihno is class but apart from Porto, which is a lower standard league, he has had an open cheque, he would not have that at Arsenal. 

Still no other alternatives I see.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 08:30:08 PM
Quotefair point with the stats but nearly all united's off target shot's could have been goals & i don't think Arsenal would have got half those chances if Rio & vidic was playing?

the main point from today's game was United's pace & movement that ripped apart Arsenal's first choice back four & that has to be a major worry for Wenger

The simply counter to your first point is that Arsenal were missing RVP, Arsenal's most clinical striker, do you think he would have missed all those chances?

Man U were very impressive and deseved their win but their 1st goal was an a dreadful og, the 2nd was horrific defending Rooney was behind 4 Arsenal players when he started the run and the 3rd again was horrfic with Alumina and Clichy  showing Park a clear path to goal.

Fletcher, Scholes and Carrick squeezed Fabregas everytime he got the ball and he had no help from Denilson who was a passenger, they dominated the middle of the park, Ferguson tactically was superb, throw in excellent performances from  Nani and Rooney who were the games best performers and you have the template to beat Arsenal, and the 4-5-1 Man U played nearly always works for them against Arsenal.

Wenger's strengths are sometimes his biggest weakness.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 31, 2010, 08:42:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 08:30:08 PM
Quotefair point with the stats but nearly all united's off target shot's could have been goals & i don't think Arsenal would have got half those chances if Rio & vidic was playing?

the main point from today's game was United's pace & movement that ripped apart Arsenal's first choice back four & that has to be a major worry for Wenger

The simply counter to your first point is that Arsenal were missing RVP, Arsenal's most clinical striker, do you think he would have missed all those chances?

Man U were very impressive and deseved their win but their 1st goal was an a dreadful og, the 2nd was horrific defending Rooney was behind 4 Arsenal players when he started the run and the 3rd again was horrfic with Alumina and Clichy  showing Park a clear path to goal.

Fletcher, Scholes and Carrick squeezed Fabregas everytime he got the ball and he had no help from Denilson who was a passenger, they dominated the middle of the park, Ferguson tactically was superb, throw in excellent performances from  Nani and Rooney who were the games best performers and you have the template to beat Arsenal, and the 4-5-1 Man U played nearly always works for them against Arsenal.

Wenger's strengths are sometimes his biggest weakness.


Van Persie played in the Champion's league semi final last May & i wouldn't exactly call him clinical (only 11 goals his best so far for a season) Arsenal haven't had a Clinical striker since Henry & Fabregas is Arsenal top scorer this season, proves my point
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2010, 08:49:09 PM
I said Arsenal's most clinical, 7 goals in 11 appearances this alas he's never had a full season, stop looking for an arguement wore non exists, I'm not going to blindly worship at the Man U altar.

All immaterial, Chelsea will win the league at a canter, far better start xi and squad than any team in the premier league imho.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on January 31, 2010, 09:06:19 PM
Quotehiddinck won the FA cup with Chelsea. So I guess that's the first argument taken care of.


What is significant about that? League titles and Champions Leagues are what I consider significant.

Mourihno is class but apart from Porto, which is a lower standard league, he has had an open cheque, he would not have that at Arsenal.

Still no other alternatives I see.

For most fans the FA cup still holds significance. For the deluded among the Arsenal set who believe they must eat at a better table, obviously not. Chatting to  lot of Arsenal fans I believe that patience is wearing thin - the booing at the Emirates today suggested that.

Wenger has, and has had, money to spend. It may not be the billions of chelsea but enough to but a top class striker and DM that would at least give Arsenal a chance.

His insistance on trying to win the EPL / CL with "kids" is rapidly turning him into Roy "Tin Cup" McAvoy.

As said before - who exaclty are these "kids" who have come through the Arsenal set up and make a real impact this past 5 years???

When Arsenal were winning titles under Wenger - who were the "kids" in the team then????

Lippi
Del Bosque
Capello
Mourinho
Guardiola (on evidence so far)
Hiddinck
Hitzfelt

would all be able to bring Arsenal on, maybe at the expense of 50 passes a move but at least with 3 points in the bag.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 31, 2010, 09:08:55 PM
well for what it's worth Chelsea do have the strongest Squad in premier league no thanks to the now departed Ronaldo & Tevez but when it come's to first xi united's is every bit as good as Chelsea's IMHO! & should be a very close title run-in, one which i wouldn't like picking a winner from ???

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on January 31, 2010, 09:18:18 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 31, 2010, 09:08:55 PM
well for what it's worth Chelsea do have the strongest Squad in premier league no thanks to the now departed Ronaldo & Tevez but when it come's to first xi united's is every bit as good as Chelsea's IMHO! & should be a very close title run-in, one which i wouldn't like picking a winner from ???

Ross i don't think united have a better starting 11 that chelsea either...midfield especially..we have to add another midfielder i know hargreaves is coming back but the man hasnt kicked a ball in 18 months..who knows if he will ever be the same again...need a striker badly to help rooney out if he runs dry
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2010, 09:19:52 PM
Saw this coming. Arsenal shed goals against good sides. 0-3 Chelsea, 1-3 Utd, 2-4 City etc. Clichy, Denilson and Almunia had mares.

I think Wenger's project has to stop. He seems to set the highest of targets and usually gets them. Going through a season unbeaten was the magical high. This time, it's not working. Winning a title with a group of players he has nurtured since their teens, playing total football, just won't cut it against experience, power and class.

Even if RVP had been there, the gaping holes at the back would also still exist. It's a pity he didn't back up his squad this Jan with experience like a Gattuso or a Villa or an Upson - or players similar to that. I think he is stubbornly holding out hope he can still do it with this squad, winning with this type of football.

Fergie's a different breed to Wenger. Alex just wants to win every year and will do what it takes. Amazing the amount of times he plays Park and Fletcher against Arsenal, and Wenger has yet to find an answer to that. It was a replica of last year's CL game.

As for Arsenal fans, I honestly do believe they are the most patient. They don't demand success. They're the only club who consistently win titles every decade, albeit just 1 or 2 titles, and are always thereabouts. I think the 60s was the only decade they didn't since the 30s. Even during the dark old days of the George Graham years when the football was dire, we grinned and bore it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on January 31, 2010, 09:38:27 PM
QuoteDon't be so rose tinted, Man U deserved the win but Arsenal had 7 shots on target to Man U's 5 and had 11 off-target shots compared to Man U's 6, throw in 8 corners to 5 and it's obvious Arsenal wasted their chance whereas Man U were far more clinical and mentally a hell of a lot stronger.

Quote stats all you like but the fact is Arsenal were completely dominated today by a united team still trying to cope with a crippling injury list.  Arsenal defence was torn to shreds and if united had taken their chances they could have won by 5 or 6.   It was men against boys.  United probably dominated even more than last seasons CL semi final, a complete thrashing in terms of play and scores.
Title: The Guardian
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2010, 10:42:59 PM
Arsène Wenger goes public with criticism of Arsenal's frailties

Arsène Wenger was ashen faced on emerging from a desolated home dressing room. Players in whom he had publicly placed his trust, often while those around this club questioned the depth of quality at his disposal, had sunk without trace to veer from the script the manager had envisaged. Wenger had seen this as a chance to prove his team were "mentally prepared" to challenge for the title. In the end it felt like a rude awakening.

The Frenchman's uncharacteristic ­public criticism of his players exposed a sense of near betrayal that was eating away at him after the match. His desperate calls for unity – "It's our job to stick together and show we are strong" – rang hollow amid his more caustic observations. He spoke of "massive individual errors" that will have left Manuel Almunia, Denilson, Gaël Clichy and Samir Nasri numbed and of this being "a massive blow and a massive disappointment". It had been a nightmarish afternoon.

His honesty was brutal. "We were naïve," said Wenger. "We never had any cohesion, offensively or defensively. We were completely not at our level. Why? I believe there are some mental reasons in there." That, perhaps, was the most scathing of his criticisms. This team has been growing under his stewardship and the 10-match unbeaten league sequence that had hauled them back into contention was supposed to have served as confirmation that they were ready to win the club's first silverware since 2005. This team had, apparently, matured.In the context of that optimism this was a regression.

What made it all the more painful was that it was so familiar. The frailties exposed when Chelsea rampaged to victory in this arena back in November, establishing an 11-point lead over their London rivals in the process, had reared again. Lessons have not been learned. Arsenal had been toothless up front that afternoon and unable to cope with Didier Drogba and the visitors' scythingcounter-attacks. Manchester United enjoyed the same prosperity on the break here, while a near identical front-line, Tomas Rosicky having replaced Eduardo, proved just as gummy.

Andrey Arshavin was swamped at times, even by a makeshift and, apparently, vulnerableUnited back-line. The visitors' industry and sheer quality in midfield eclipsed anything the home side could muster and Arsenal were only a sporadic attacking force once chasing the contest. Wenger admitted that he would not be active in the transfer market tomorrow, his efforts at securing a forward to replace the injured Robin van Persie having come to nothing in the midwinter window. Rather, his only reinforcement had been the return of a 35-year-old centre-half. Those Arsenal supporters who had been hoping for a late boost to ease their pain should have known better.

This team still lacks a focal point in its front line. Everything United slid up to Rooney stuck on his instep, allowing an effervescent midfield to charge up in support. Arsenal could summon no such get-out ball. Arshavin veered from flank to centre, desperately trying to eke out space, but was confounded by United's aggression in midfield and clever positioning in defence. Where the visitors were assured, Arsenal merely became flustered."They were better than us today," said Wenger. "We were never close in our marking and you do not win big games like this when you are off your level. We just gave them too much room everywhere and the players are really down because they know we can do much better than that. Two of their goals came from our corners. Their win owed too much to the lack of intelligence of our positioning. We are all conscious that we didn't deliver, but I don't know why we didn't.We were a bit inhibited and tense."

The tension will persist until his own charges can produce drubbings such as this against the others at the top. At the moment they feel frail. Sunday brings a trip to Stamford Bridge, by which time Chelsea could be eight points ahead again. Drogba, this team's nemesis, will be salivating at the thought of flattening their challenge for good. "We will have to deliver a different kind of performance in that game," said Wenger. "We need to do something special to stay in the race.Of course. I'm conscious of that."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 01, 2010, 08:50:45 AM
Arsenal must be a crap team if Rooney managed to score against them.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2010, 11:53:25 AM
QuoteAs for Arsenal fans, I honestly do believe they are the most patient. They don't demand success. They're the only club who consistently win titles every decade, albeit just 1 or 2 titles, and are always thereabouts. I think the 60s was the only decade they didn't since the 30s. Even during the dark old days of the George Graham years when the football was dire, we grinned and bore it.

True, the fact that Arseal have only 16 managers in it's entire history tells it's own story and having lived through the O'Neill and Don Howe era's I'm accustomed to Arsenal not been a great success, Arsenal is a club that has a culture of trying to do things the right way which is why there was such aghast over Graham's bungs. Arsenal are a club that until recently had gentleman serve players their afternoon tea on away trips, they have a very old, strong and unique culture and I hope that never changes.

Wenger won't be fired because it's just not the Arsenal way and any Arsenal fan over 20 must truly appreciate and accept that.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 02, 2010, 10:21:07 PM
Avoid defeat Sunday and the Gooners are back in the title race and actually have the easier run it of the big three, big if considering their Nemesis is back and scoring...the door is ever so slightly ajar...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2010, 10:48:01 PM
The game last year - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_91RmRaioNk
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 03, 2010, 10:48:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 31, 2010, 09:19:52 PM
Saw this coming. Arsenal shed goals against good sides. 0-3 Chelsea, 1-3 Utd, 2-4 City etc. Clichy, Denilson and Almunia had mares.

I think Wenger's project has to stop. He seems to set the highest of targets and usually gets them. Going through a season unbeaten was the magical high. This time, it's not working. Winning a title with a group of players he has nurtured since their teens, playing total football, just won't cut it against experience, power and class.

Even if RVP had been there, the gaping holes at the back would also still exist. It's a pity he didn't back up his squad this Jan with experience like a Gattuso or a Villa or an Upson - or players similar to that. I think he is stubbornly holding out hope he can still do it with this squad, winning with this type of football.

Fergie's a different breed to Wenger. Alex just wants to win every year and will do what it takes. Amazing the amount of times he plays Park and Fletcher against Arsenal, and Wenger has yet to find an answer to that. It was a replica of last year's CL game.

As for Arsenal fans, I honestly do believe they are the most patient. They don't demand success. They're the only club who consistently win titles every decade, albeit just 1 or 2 titles, and are always thereabouts. I think the 60s was the only decade they didn't since the 30s. Even during the dark old days of the George Graham years when the football was dire, we grinned and bore it.

Excellent post. IMHO the only progress that Arsenal has made this year is Vermallen- a very good signing. I think Arsenal would be dramatically transformed by one player, and that player is Darren Fletcher!

A hard-working, busy midfielder a la Fletcher, and a goalkeeper is all Arsenal are shy when they have their squad fit and healthy. The other thing I think they miss out on is that winning spirit. I think winning a trophy will give some of 'the kids' a winning mentality. That's why I cannot understand Wenger's approach to the cups. A great chance to change the mentality.

Hopefully they still suffer that mentality for Sunday!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on February 03, 2010, 11:05:23 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 03, 2010, 10:48:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 31, 2010, 09:19:52 PM
Saw this coming. Arsenal shed goals against good sides. 0-3 Chelsea, 1-3 Utd, 2-4 City etc. Clichy, Denilson and Almunia had mares.

I think Wenger's project has to stop. He seems to set the highest of targets and usually gets them. Going through a season unbeaten was the magical high. This time, it's not working. Winning a title with a group of players he has nurtured since their teens, playing total football, just won't cut it against experience, power and class.

Even if RVP had been there, the gaping holes at the back would also still exist. It's a pity he didn't back up his squad this Jan with experience like a Gattuso or a Villa or an Upson - or players similar to that. I think he is stubbornly holding out hope he can still do it with this squad, winning with this type of football.

Fergie's a different breed to Wenger. Alex just wants to win every year and will do what it takes. Amazing the amount of times he plays Park and Fletcher against Arsenal, and Wenger has yet to find an answer to that. It was a replica of last year's CL game.

As for Arsenal fans, I honestly do believe they are the most patient. They don't demand success. They're the only club who consistently win titles every decade, albeit just 1 or 2 titles, and are always thereabouts. I think the 60s was the only decade they didn't since the 30s. Even during the dark old days of the George Graham years when the football was dire, we grinned and bore it.

Excellent post. IMHO the only progress that Arsenal has made this year is Vermallen- a very good signing. I think Arsenal would be dramatically transformed by one player, and that player is Darren Fletcher!

A hard-working, busy midfielder a la Fletcher, and a goalkeeper is all Arsenal are shy when they have their squad fit and healthy. The other thing I think they miss out on is that winning spirit. I think winning a trophy will give some of 'the kids' a winning mentality. That's why I cannot understand Wenger's approach to the cups. A great chance to change the mentality.

Hopefully they still suffer that mentality for Sunday!!!

One of the papers at the weekend had a stat that showed that Arsenal's first team squad had fewer winner's medals than any of the top seven teams. United's squad had almost six times as many. Even Spurs had more than Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 06, 2010, 11:16:05 AM
Good feeling about this match, despite Drogba's tendency to humiliate the Arsenal defence every time he togs out against them.

There's a feeling of nothing to lose - just throw the sink at Chelsea. If it works (even a point is acceptable) then with Arsenal's handy enough 13 game run-in it's game on.

The big doubt though is finding a reason to believe the defence has shored up in a week. Big Campbell, if fit, would be worth a shot.
Title: Uladh was right - gulp!
Post by: ONeill on February 07, 2010, 10:36:12 AM
Manuel Almunia's nerves add extra edge to Arsenal's visit to Chelsea

Right from the beginning of his Arsenal career, Arsène Wenger has been aware of the particular tension that gnaws at goalkeepers. One of his earliest signings was Alex Manninger, a young Austrian with a strapping physique, terrific reflexes, and bags of potential. What Manninger did not have, however, was big-match temperament. The slightest mistake would antagonise him, and his team-mates soon became used to the sight of him sitting in the dressing room with a towel on his head barking at himself in German.

Arsenal's current custodian shows his torment in a different way. Manuel Almunia is capable of looking so vexed, with the baggage under his eyes causing such strain, it seems he can not have slept for a week. Perhaps he has not. There has been plenty to toss and turn about in between a sobering and error-strewn defeat at home to Manchester United and a visit to a Chelsea team who have slammed seven goals past him in the past two meetings.

Visible nervousness is hardly a useful asset for a goalkeeper. Arsenal's season has been punctuated by individual errors at the back. Not all of them are Almunia's, but sometimes the defenders in front of him lapse in concentration because they appear to be worried about what the man behind them is – or is not – going to do. Will he clear the ball or shank it? Will he come for the cross or stay? Will he catch or flap?

Earlier this season, when Chelsea went through an uncharacteristically vulnerable spell and conceded virtually any time a high ball was hurled into their box, you could sense their defence was similarly uneasy about Petr Cech, whose form hit a rocky patch. Uncertainty is virulently contagious.

As the former double-winning captain Frank McLintock says: "The goalkeeper is absolutely vital. It all starts from there. If he's nice and calm and full of authority it sets everything up in front of him. Almunia has lost confidence in himself. When the ball is knocked back to him he swings at it, he panics."

Even Wenger admits Almunia worries too much. "I think he puts a lot of pressure on his shoulders. Too much," he mused at the training ground last week. "If you look well across Europe you see that goalkeeper is the most difficult job in the world today. And it is even harder in England. Everything is quick, people stand on your feet at crosses. It is a terrible job."

The Frenchman tries to be empathetic. "A goalkeeper is always in a negative publicity. If a striker misses two chances and scores two he is a hero. If a goalkeeper makes a fantastic game and makes one mistake he is a villain. They are under massive pressure because of that fear to make one mistake, knowing that it can kill the team and the game. It is may be the most pressurised job in football."

Almunia's mistakes have been worryingly numerous this season. His ranking, in terms of saves to shots ratio, charts him as 19th in the Premier League. Hardly the foundation required to win titles. Brian Clough used to say that Peter Shilton won him 15 points per season. At some point Wenger has to calculate how many points his keeper is costing him.

Although Arsenal's manager still pledges faith in the Spaniard, the view in the Emirates audience is an overwhelming lack of trust in the club's No1. It is the most hotly debated topic in N5. For how long can he keep his place?

But the trouble is, none of the three young understudies on the books looks ready yet to elbow him out of the way – Lukasz Fabianski has had his own hairy moments, Vito Mannone looked raw when he was promoted earlier this season, and although Wojciech Szczesny (probably the most gifted of the lot) is earning rave reviews on loan at Brentford he is 19 years old and rightly honing his skill.

If there was an argument for strengthening a position of weakness in the transfer window, Wenger didn't want to hear of it.

An eye for a goalkeeper has never been his greatest gift. David Seaman was the perfectly solid base at the club when the manager first arrived, but the selection recruited to emulate him include Manninger, Richard Wright, Rami Shaaban and Almunia, who have all struggled with varying degrees to prove they have nerves for the task. Jens Lehmann, who nobody would accuse of having a nervous disposition, was the exception to that rule, and he was a law unto himself.

Before joining Arsenal in 2004, Almunia had spent the majority of his career in the Spanish second division. Even he did not expect to become first choice for a member of the Champions League establishment. Five years into his time in north London, with nearly 150 Arsenal appearances under his belt, the 32-year-old is still heavily burdened with the pressure of his position.

Wenger has dealt with goalkeepers going through a rotten spell in hardline fashion before. Lehmann never forgave Almunia for stepping in when Wenger suddenly dropped the controversial German. The Arsenal manager is adamant he has no qualms about doing the same again.

"I am not afraid to make a tough decision," he says. "My only target is to make the right decision for the club. But after a game like Sunday we have to believe in our players rather than change half of the team. Almunia has done very well recently. People always look for a scapegoat when you lose a big game, you know."

He then added that Fabianski has "a little issue" with Chelsea after handing their London rivals a gift in the FA Cup semi-final last year, which suggests a change is not imminent. Even so, the Pole is not the only one who must wonder how many more flaps he must watch from a distance before he gets another chance.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/feb/07/arsene-wenger-manuel-almunia-arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on February 07, 2010, 04:52:13 PM
Groundhog day for Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on February 07, 2010, 05:18:47 PM
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2008/writers/the_limey/11/18/arsenal/arsene-wenger.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Worker on February 07, 2010, 05:20:24 PM
Goonhog day
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 07, 2010, 05:27:54 PM
Actually playing rightly
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 07, 2010, 05:54:18 PM
Once again completely toothless against a decent defence

Once again bullied by a decent striker

Once again nothing on the bench

why spend money eh Arsene?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 07, 2010, 05:57:24 PM
Eboue did more in 5 mins than Walcott did in 70.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on February 07, 2010, 06:02:33 PM
Arsenal did alright in 2nd half but relying too much on Fabregas to create and score goals.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 07, 2010, 06:13:43 PM
Arsenal's problems aren't going go to disappear in a week, mentally fragile and not clinical or cynical enough. Chelseas had two chances and converted both. Not out of it but mentally they are not ruthless. In just as weill every other team apart fom the top two in the EPL are complete dross.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 07, 2010, 08:21:27 PM
Dinny, I was actually a lot happier after the game today than last week. I honestly think Arsenal have turned the corner. Arsenal started brightly and for 10 minutes before the second goal they dominated Chelsea, and continued to do so after the second. Thankfully, for the rest of the season, there's no Drogba or Rooney.

Looking at the remaining 13 games - if Arsenal start with a win v Liverpool on Wed, they're capable of picking up 30 points if they play like that. I don't think I'm deluded in saying that. At the minute it's about staying ahead of Liverpool and City but i'd be fairly confident with that.

The goals were defensive nightmares but beyond that I thought they shut out Chelsea well in the second when Chelsea decided to attack. Bendtner actually added a bit to the side but the biggest improvement was Eboue for Walcott. An awful pity Wenger didn't strengthen with Sorenson.

Albeit 9 behind Chelsea and most likely won't make that up, I'd be more optimistic regarding the CL and keeping on the tails of second place at least. With Song, Rosicky and Nasri getting more games, things may just be looking up.

I thought Chelsea would win this league but less sure now. On the basis of the last 2 weeks, Utd are the better side right now, and that's not at full strength.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 07, 2010, 08:57:20 PM
I do agree O'Neill but the problem as I see it is that Wenger has demonstarted great belief in this group of players but this group don't seem to have that beleif in themselves, he should have started a full strength side against Stoke, winnng is a habit and that defeat brought an end to their run and mentally had an effect on the Arsenal squad.

Chelsea and Man U are side full of winners, Arsenal aren't and they need to win something sooner rather than later if they are going to achieve their potential, if they avoid English opposition they have a great chance in the CL.

QuoteAn awful pity Wenger didn't strengthen with Sorenson.

Cried when I read that, fine goalie but then again a bucket of frogs would be better than Almunia, at least it's recogintion of a serious problem.

Still fancy Chelsea to win it, almost better man for man than Man U - probably only Rooney would get in the Chelsea side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on February 07, 2010, 09:10:33 PM
Arsenal did well in the second half because Chelsea had the job done and were closing out the game. Wenger has done well with the 'Bringing on the Kids' stuff, but he is short three (rough and ready) players in key positions. Kids, silky football and not opening the purse strings will only get you so far! Have to agree winning is a habit, a couple of years ago when Man U were struggling for silverware with a young and inexperienced squad they made sure they won the League Cup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: centre 3/4s on February 07, 2010, 09:56:17 PM
To be fair to Arsene he is Arsenal through and through plain to see and financially he has the clubs best interests at heart which is refreshing to see concidering the win at all cost mentality there is in football, i just feel that we are 4 players short of the finished article and that we are carrying too many fringe players. Almunia, Bendtner, Eduardo,Walcott,Denilson, and clichy are all playing crap and are not helping matters!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 07, 2010, 10:09:05 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 07, 2010, 09:10:33 PM
Arsenal did well in the second half because Chelsea had the job done and were closing out the game.

Arsenal did well from the start.

It seems to be if top teams score first against Arsenal, it's game over. They'll sit back and bang them on the counter.

Hasn't Walcott gone back something shocking. His World Cup is disappearing before his very eyes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 07, 2010, 10:27:54 PM
Wednesday, 10 February 2010
Arsenal v Liverpool, 19:45

Saturday, 20 February 2010
Arsenal v Sunderland, 15:00

Saturday, 27 February 2010
Stoke v Arsenal, 17:30

Saturday, 6 March 2010
Arsenal v Burnley, 15:00

Saturday, 13 March 2010
Hull v Arsenal, 15:00

Saturday, 20 March 2010
Arsenal v West Ham, 17:30

Saturday, 27 March 2010
Birmingham v Arsenal, 15:00

Saturday, 3 April 2010
Arsenal v Wolverhampton, 15:00

Saturday, 10 April 2010
Tottenham v Arsenal, 15:00

Saturday, 17 April 2010
Wigan v Arsenal, 15:00

Saturday, 24 April 2010
Arsenal v Man City, 15:00

Saturday, 1 May 2010
Blackburn v Arsenal, 15:00

Sunday, 9 May 2010
Arsenal v Fulham, 15:00
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 08, 2010, 09:48:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 07, 2010, 10:09:05 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 07, 2010, 09:10:33 PM
Arsenal did well in the second half because Chelsea had the job done and were closing out the game.

Arsenal did well from the start.

It seems to be if top teams score first against Arsenal, it's game over. They'll sit back and bang them on the counter.

Hasn't Walcott gone back something shocking. His World Cup is disappearing before his very eyes.

I was thinking that myself - Im not sold on this arsenal played well thing. They didnt play badly, but nowhere near enough to beat a top side.

Chelsea didnt have to chase the game after going 2-0 up and knew that arsenal were toothless in attack. John Terry and Cashley were outstanding without having to really worry all that much. I think they made arsenal look "good" with letting them have possession while knowing they werent going to do anything substantial with it.

Nasri had in my opinion two chances to take a shot, which when you are 2-0 down, you need to take to have any chance of scoring, and he looked again for another pass. That was the most frustrating for me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on February 08, 2010, 10:06:54 PM
Interesting article from Phil McNulty. Wenger is really starting to get to me with all his whinging after games about this and that.

2 Years ago around this time Arsenal were going well and put out a makeshif side in the FA CUp against United where they got an absolute thumping and it set the tone for the rest of their year where they were toothless and never any threat to the championship. Again this year against Stoke they do the same and what has happened to their season since?? Down the tubes again!

Wenger can talk all he wants about his kids but he won titles with experienced seasoned campaigners, Viera, Overmars, Petit, Keown, Dixon etc. We've been waiting 5 years for this young team to blossom yet when players are reaching their prime he sells them a la Adebayor, Toure, Hleb, Diarra, Reyes.

I think Wenger needs to have a long head look for some seasoned campaigners in the Summer and bring in at least 3, one for each area of the pitch!!

Good article from Phil McNulty about the Arsenal way:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2010/02/john_terry_parted_with_the.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 09, 2010, 08:18:43 AM
Screenexile are you losing it, that is a terrible article, it is like all poor tabloid sports writing in that it completly eulogises the winners and condemns the losers, i mean ffs

QuoteTerry concluded a one-man lap of honour after the final whistle by throwing his Chelsea shirt into the crowd and carefully presenting a supporter in the Matthew Harding Stand with the armband. Redemption time.

Redemption? He's meet caught out as a serial adulterer, how can winning a game of soccer bring about redemption for that, do you think his wife and kids feel redeemed?

QuoteArsenal also played their part by flatly refusing to burden Terry with any of those nasty defender's worries, such as the fear that the opposition might have a few shots at goal or exert even the slightest modicum of physical pressure. Perish the thought.

Arsenal had almost twice as many shots on target and off target than Chelsea, they are not clinical enough, saying they don't shoot is just a journalistic fallacy where the evidence is contrary.

QuoteWenger's assessment of Terry was one of his better moments in an after-match briefing that was at best wildly optimistic and at worst delusional. Amid damning this vastly-superior Chelsea side with churlish faint praise - "we didn't get a demonstration of football but they were efficient"

What is churlish about that, he praised their clinical football and how the hell were Chelsea vastly superior in that game? Less possession, less territory and less shots - they were incredibly effecient not superior.

I stopped reading after that, most of the contributers on this thread know why Arsenal won't win the Premiership, if you're going to give us something to read at least give us a balance article, that one belongs firmly in the recycle bin.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on February 09, 2010, 09:27:55 AM
Quotethat one belongs firmly in the recycle bin

Why would we want to see it again Dinny?  You do know what recycle means, don't you?  :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 09, 2010, 10:06:14 AM
 :D

I was thnking you could salvage the bulls*it and use it to fertilise  :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on February 09, 2010, 12:30:56 PM
That would be composting Dinny, not recycling.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 09, 2010, 01:53:15 PM
Never read the article (Can't be arsed), but re the shots on goal quote. For all Arsenal's domination of posession, they had two shots on goal over 90 minutes. A stat generated from Arsenal's over complication of the football, and Chelsea's excellent defence, and tactical organisation.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 09, 2010, 02:43:15 PM
Arsenal had 6 shots on target, all abysmal..

QuoteChelsea's excellent defence, and tactical organisation.

No arguement here.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 09, 2010, 07:37:37 PM
Picked this up on football365 of all places - brought a wry smile to my face

Arsenal's Summer Foreseen
Seeing as football news is quiet, I thought I would predict the future as accurate as can be. This is what summer 2010 holds for Arsenal.

* After yet another trophyless season, Arsene Wenger tells Arsenal fans that he has spotted the problems in the side and will regulate them in the transfer market.

* One month after making these comments, and with no one still signed, the apologists begin by claiming that 'Arsene needs to wait for the World Cup to finish' before signing anyone.

* Apologists then come to the realisation that the 15 year olds Wenger intends on signing aren't at the World Cup, since Burundi, Burkina Faso and Zamunda aren't taking part.

* Chamakh comes in on a free. He adds firepower to 'new signings' Eduardo, RVP and Vela (all back from injury of course).

* The World Cup finishes and still no sign of a top defender, top midfielder or top striker. Wenger apologists then claim that Arsene is 'waiting for Godot'.

* A week later, Wenger bemoans the inflated nature of the transfer market.

* One day after this, Wenger sells Cesc to Barca for 65 million GBP

* Almunia gets a job waitering at the Ivy and Fabianski is hailed as the new Lev Yashin.

* With 2 weeks to go until the start of the season, and still no sign of further additions, Wenger picks up a turd from Hampstead heath and puts it in the squad.

* One day after watching the turd in training, Wenger insists that 'he cannot find anything better than what he currently has'.

* Arsene's cult agree. Some random 'diehard' claims that anyone criticising Wenger's decision to sign the turd should 'go and support Chelski or Citeh'. If Wenger has seen the turd in training then he Knows best.

* The season begins. Arsenal destroy Ebbsfleet 15-1 on the opening day, with the turd even getting in on the act.

* Cue riotous celebrations. 'Arsene Knows' and 'the turd has proved his critics wrong'.

* Turd is given a massive contract extension and bumper pay rise the following day.

* With one week to go until transfer window close, Wenger with the 60 million profit from the Fabregas sale has Still found no one. Arsenal are top of the league by alphabetical order mind, so why would he need anyone else?

* Transfer window slams shut. Only then does Wenger reveal he was 'very close' to signing Lio Messi, David Villa, Whitney Houston and Robert Mugabe.

* Arsenal surge to a great run and are top on new year's day!

* Wenger goes on to throw the FA Cup. Range of deluded apologists defend this disgraceful decision.

* In the following weeks, Arsenal play Man United. Despite 100% possession, Arsenal have no shots on goal and lose 5-0 at home to Man United's 3 shots ongoal (plus a Denilson + Fabianski og).

* Random Arsenal player gives a loudmouth interview claiming 'we will learn from this'.

* Two days later, Arsenal go to Stamford Bridge and only manage 80% possession. Didier scores a hat-trick inside 15 minutes.

* The Chelsea back-line and keeper decide to sunbathe for the rest of the match, safe in the knowledge that Arsenal will play one thousand pretty passes in front of the D, without anyone actually shooting.

* Wenger gives post-match interview, furious about Chelsea's 'anti-football' and disgusted that Ancelotti has invented a new on-field collective known as a 'defence'.

* Wenger is even more disgusted at the 6 foot plus fella on the nets preventing the ball going in. Arsene had always thought that bloke's job was to pick the ball out of the net once it had gone in?

* Robin Van Persie injures himself doing the moonwalk. Out for the season.

* Rosicky injures himself eating a Krispy Kreme, Out for '4-6 weeks'. Ends up being out for a decade.

* Arsenal fans claim that 'with a fit Rosicky and RVP' that the UK would definitely have won the Eurovision song contest.

* Now out of the league cup, FA Cup and title race, Arsene Wenger claims that these 3 competitions don't matter, and that only the CL does.

* After his kids have their undies pulled down my Man United in the CL yet again, AW claims he has discovered a new mathematical theory whereby third place is actually superior to first.

* Arsenal fans happily digest this and serenade Wenger, who is offered a contract for life.

Repeat to fade.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 09, 2010, 10:02:33 PM
Now, that is funny.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 12:24:24 PM
Impossible to predict tonight.

1. Arsenal continue their run of form. Play well enough but can't score. Gerrard and Kuyt have Liverpool 2-0 up on 60 mins and se the game out. Boos. City and Liverpool are now favourites to clinch CL places. 1 point from the 4 big games.

2. Arsenal and Liverpool happily play out a bore draw. Two teams going nowhere and afraid to lose.

3. Arsenal have actually turned the corner and pummel Liverpool. Denilson and Clichy start to run, Bendtner is the player his head tells him he is and Arsenal win 3-1. Almunia makes a save. Chelsea and/or Utd drop points and with the easier run-in things are rosier in the garden again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 07:43:29 PM
Almunia,
Eboue, Gallas, Vermaelen, Clichy,
Fabregas, Song, Diaby, Nasri, Arshavin
Bendtner

Subs: Fabianski, Sagna, Rosicky, Walcott, Denilson, Traore, Campbell.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Worker on February 10, 2010, 07:44:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 12:24:24 PM
Impossible to predict tonight.

1. Arsenal continue their run of form. Play well enough but can't score. Gerrard and Kuyt have Liverpool 2-0 up on 60 mins and se the game out. Boos. City and Liverpool are now favourites to clinch CL places. 1 point from the 4 big games.

2. Arsenal and Liverpool happily play out a bore draw. Two teams going nowhere and afraid to lose.

3. Arsenal have actually turned the corner and pummel Liverpool. Denilson and Clichy start to run, Bendtner is the player his head tells him he is and Arsenal win 3-1. Almunia makes a save. Chelsea and/or Utd drop points and with the easier run-in things are rosier in the garden again.


i have a few pound on this outcome
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Worker on February 10, 2010, 07:50:54 PM
any links?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 08:11:58 PM
Loads on myp2p

Bore so far.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 08:15:02 PM
Bendtner goes close. First real shot of the game from both sides - 25 mins..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 08:16:32 PM
Arsenal starting to press. Probably means a counter attack goal for Liverpool.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 08:21:20 PM
Bendtner making a difference at times. Good to see a striker on the team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 08:22:29 PM
Nasri off after 33. Rosicky on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: centre 3/4s on February 10, 2010, 08:25:05 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 08:21:20 PM
Bendtner making a difference at times. Good to see a striker on the team.



Are you watching the same game as me? He is running about like a spare p***k!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 08:28:25 PM
Bendtner is bursting a gut - even when he loses the ball he's bulling about after it - Arsenal missed that this last 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 10, 2010, 08:30:21 PM
Cannot get near a pc to watch this and radio five live covering the other two games. Feck.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 08:30:38 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 10, 2010, 08:30:02 PM
What happened to Nasri? Thought he was doing alright.

Injury.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 08:31:23 PM
Clichy playing much better but on a yellow already.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 08:36:21 PM
Boring as feck. Very quiet. Sort of glad to not be behind at half time for a change.

Looking like a 0-0 or 1-0 to either.

Nervous game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 10, 2010, 08:39:16 PM
Settle for 1 nil. 3 points is 3 points
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 08:41:10 PM
Song playing well. Fabregas's passing way off. Arshavin and Bendtner looking lively but too many players going it alone, especially the Russian. Liverpool offering no attacking threat but it just takes one. Almunia actually fisted a corner about 30 yards which is a rarity.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 08:52:18 PM
Away we go. No changes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 08:53:40 PM
Jeez you panic when Arsenal attack in droves. You know it'll lead to a counter attack. If Babel comes on at 0-0 it could spell trouble.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 08:55:24 PM
Arshavin greedy again, although he has a history in this fixture.

Decent try by Lucas. Arsenal stood off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 08:57:50 PM
Fabregas has been terrible. Some of Arsenal's passing is chronic. Rosicky too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:00:51 PM
Brilliant tackle from Gallas on Ngog.

Rosicky fecks up in the box. Why doesn't anyone shoot - even from 7 yards?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:01:33 PM
Carragher off for Degen.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:02:49 PM
Agricultural run from Bender. Almost came off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:05:08 PM
57 mins. You can see why Liverpool have been keeping clean sheets lately. They are working their bollocks off. Kuyt back in his own full back line running like a cat with a mustard hole.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 10, 2010, 09:11:12 PM
Well do the gunners look like scoring
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:11:47 PM
64 mins. If Fabregas wasn't Fabregas he'd be subbed. But he's still liable to do something.

Deserved yellow for Bender for diving in box. Worth a try I suppose.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:13:27 PM
Oooh close. Rosicky from distance. Tipped over. No sustained pressure though. They haven't really managed a 5-10 minute rally.

Walcott warming up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on February 10, 2010, 09:14:22 PM
What was that shithouse Gray talking about, replay clearly shows Agger didn't touch Bendtner yet Gray says "Liverpool have gotten away with one there".
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:14:59 PM
Arshavin off - Walcott on. The Russian had hardly touched it this half. 67 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:22:47 PM
Liverpool not as brittle as a month ago. Limiting Arsenal to one decent attack every 10 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:28:41 PM
Board goes down as do Liverpool. Great ball from Bender to Rosicky and Arsenal's first cross of the night headed in by Diaby. Sagna on for Bender.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:32:01 PM
How bad is Walcott's touch?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:33:16 PM
Heart in mouth there. Good save from the nervous mentalist.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:35:02 PM
All Liverpool. 88 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:35:59 PM
Just isolate Walcott and give him 50 yrds to take one touch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:37:32 PM
4 mins injury time. Arsenal hanging on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:38:46 PM
Gallas has been magnificent this half.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:39:03 PM
92 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:40:12 PM
Jesus Walcott you tit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on February 10, 2010, 09:43:06 PM
Lucky, lucky Fabregas.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:43:14 PM
Phew 1-0.

That was a handball by Cesc too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on February 10, 2010, 09:44:22 PM
How did the ref not see that?
No complaints Arsenal way better side in second half.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Lady GAA GAA on February 10, 2010, 09:45:14 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on February 10, 2010, 09:44:22 PM
How did the ref not see that?
No complaints Arsenal way better side in second half.

No they weren't  :-\
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 10, 2010, 09:48:23 PM
Eboue was great tonight as well as Gallas.

Some save by Almunia.

No doubt the delusionalists will claim a peano at the end but it was a never a free kick in the first place.

Still not a great performance but the confidence will be helped, jaysus watching Arsenal trying to close a game is not good it would like watchiing John Terry going to a knocking shop and asking him not to have sex.

Not gone yet!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:48:50 PM
Even if Chelsea get an equaliser, it's a good night for the Gunners.

Nice to get an ugly 3 points. Arsenal's back four were steady but came up against little. Song and Diaby provided decent protection. That's about it.

Something has to be done about Walcott. Wenger was doing his nut.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:53:30 PM
Fabregas - "I might have touched it a wee bit with my hand." Maybe he didn't say wee.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:56:33 PM
Jaysus Senderos on for Everton with 10 secs left.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 10:00:24 PM
Saturday, 20 February 2010
Arsenal v Sunderland, 15:00

Saturday, 27 February 2010
Stoke v Arsenal, 17:30

Saturday, 6 March 2010
Arsenal v Burnley, 15:00

Saturday, 13 March 2010
Hull v Arsenal, 15:00

Saturday, 20 March 2010
Arsenal v West Ham, 17:30

Saturday, 27 March 2010
Birmingham v Arsenal, 15:00

Saturday, 3 April 2010
Arsenal v Wolverhampton, 15:00

Saturday, 10 April 2010
Tottenham v Arsenal, 15:00

Saturday, 17 April 2010
Wigan v Arsenal, 15:00

Saturday, 24 April 2010
Arsenal v Man City, 15:00

Saturday, 1 May 2010
Blackburn v Arsenal, 15:00

Sunday, 9 May 2010
Arsenal v Fulham, 15:00

If Arsenal are serious about this, they should be targeting the 7 wins next up before the Spurs game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Lady GAA GAA on February 10, 2010, 10:01:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 09:53:30 PM
Fabregas - "I might have touched it a wee bit with my hand." Maybe he didn't say wee.

'he got so many decisions wrong that maybe another won't hurt.'

LAUGH OUT LOUD

Webb is awful.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 10:02:35 PM
And Webb's going to the World Cup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on February 11, 2010, 12:20:13 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 10, 2010, 10:02:35 PM
And Webb's going to the World Cup.

Thats the baldy git, innit?

He's done Arsenal no favours in the past if my memory serves me right
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 13, 2010, 12:21:27 PM
Arshavin out now. Nasri too. Eduardo proabably back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hassletravel on February 14, 2010, 12:16:21 PM
arsenal keep on getting niggly injuries, must be something up with the training or medical treatment, dont think we've had a full squad to pick from in any game this season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 14, 2010, 11:26:52 PM
Pleasant video of the Arsenal v Liverpool game. Captures it perfectly for anyone who has been over - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8oGGm13qWo&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: RedBolts on February 16, 2010, 11:34:37 AM
What about tomorrow night's game folks? It's been really low-key heading into the champs league for some reason. I suppose all talk has been about Beckham v Man United. Arsenal need to up the tempo.

Serious match. I remember last year Porto v unlucky to be beat by United. They're a decent team.

I'm worried for us if we play the way we have been. Would prob be happy enough with a narrow defeat, maybe 1-0/2-1. Would love a goal. 1-1 would set us up nicely.

Arshavin out is obv a miss, but he's been in the worst form of his Arsenal career. Perhaps Eduardo and Bendtner can form a more effective away partnership. Fingers crossed anyway.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2010, 04:46:55 PM
Good few out tonight, Eduardo, Gallas and Arshavin being hard felt.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 17, 2010, 05:07:00 PM
The Hulk is one to Watch Tonight  ;)

interesting to see Wenger Comparing Porto as the Portuguese Arsenal (fair point) but I'm sure Arsenal would love to have two European Cups in the bag

i Expect Porto to win tonight but Arsenal to win the Tie
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 17, 2010, 05:11:49 PM
Porto are 8/11 draw no bet tonight.  Worth a ton?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on February 17, 2010, 08:07:26 PM
Sol Campbell LOL. He must be about 55 now and gets himself a goal :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 17, 2010, 08:12:52 PM
He's 35 age doesn't matter if your still good enough, Maldini was 40 when he retired & was still one of the best defenders in world football

awful goalkeeping & defending for those two goals
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Catch the high ball on February 17, 2010, 08:24:34 PM
Bendtner is actually playing reasonably well this evening with a few good efforts on goal. That Porto keeper is real gobshite!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2010, 08:37:14 PM
Porto aren't all that good but Arsenal's defence is fairly low on confidence especially away in Europe.

Arsenal could hammer them. Nasri, Rosicky and Fabregas (when he's not being kicked into orbit) are getting buckets of room. Bendtner working his balls off again. However, Fabianski has Needs and is liable of anything here. I think Campbell has been class.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 17, 2010, 08:55:17 PM
that has to be the most stupid goal ever!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on February 17, 2010, 08:55:42 PM
That ref Hansen is a complete w**ker...Clear cut penalty at one end then that at the other!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: red hander on February 17, 2010, 08:57:10 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on February 17, 2010, 08:55:42 PM
That ref Hansen is a complete w**ker...Clear cut penalty at one end then that at the other!!!

Course he's a w**ker, wasn't he the clown reffed us in Paris when Henry was playing basketball
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2010, 08:58:21 PM
Wenger must search the planet for the crappiest keepers. So bad it's laughable.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on February 17, 2010, 08:59:50 PM
Quote from: red hander on February 17, 2010, 08:57:10 PM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on February 17, 2010, 08:55:42 PM
That ref Hansen is a complete w**ker...Clear cut penalty at one end then that at the other!!!

Course he's a w**ker, wasn't he the clown reffed us in Paris when Henry was playing basketball

That's him...shouldn't have been allowed to referee again after that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Onion Bag on February 17, 2010, 09:00:11 PM
Paul Hearty could get run on that team as keeper, he wouldnt look out of place
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2010, 09:01:54 PM
I don't think the ref did much wrong there regarding the goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on February 17, 2010, 09:04:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 17, 2010, 09:01:54 PM
I don't think the ref did much wrong there regarding the goal.

Unless you don't count the clear cut penalty at the other end. Then they go up the other end and score..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on February 17, 2010, 09:08:12 PM
Fabregas would need to watch he doesn't get booked or he's out of the return.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2010, 09:09:18 PM
They're doing everything to get him booked.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2010, 09:10:44 PM
Was sort of hoping they'd bring on Walcott for Fabianski. Might as well spice it up further.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2010, 09:13:01 PM
Walcott watch: 1 run - lost possession.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2010, 09:19:08 PM
Just hug the fecking touchline Walcott. That way you stay out of trouble.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 17, 2010, 09:22:57 PM
Some of those arsenal boys are seriously easy to push off the ball.

Wenger needs to get a few of them boys on a weights training program...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2010, 09:24:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 17, 2010, 09:22:57 PM
Some of those arsenal boys are seriously easy to push off the ball.

Wenger needs to get a few of them boys on a weights training program...

Yep, Campbell looks like a monster beside them.

Denilson is having another horror show.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: centre 3/4s on February 17, 2010, 09:25:40 PM
pure pish!!!   at least bender is now off..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2010, 09:26:52 PM
How many yellows given now for fouls on Fabregas?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Worker on February 17, 2010, 09:28:23 PM
why did arsene not sign given  ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2010, 09:29:56 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 17, 2010, 09:28:16 PM
Where's Walcott?

Changed wings. Arsenal refuse to go down the left now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 17, 2010, 09:31:10 PM
What is happening with Walcott? He now looks a pretty rubbish player.

Porto like their cheating - fouling and diving non stop...

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2010, 09:36:19 PM
Poor performance but reasonably confident they'll go through.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on February 17, 2010, 09:41:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 17, 2010, 09:24:05 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 17, 2010, 09:22:57 PM
Some of those arsenal boys are seriously easy to push off the ball.

Wenger needs to get a few of them boys on a weights training program...

Yep, Campbell looks like a monster beside them.

Denilson is having another horror show.

Campbell looks like a monster beside most people. Thought he had a great game tonight. Denilson, Bentdner terrible, Diaby in and out of it.

No one will ever convince me that Bendtner is a good player. Think Arsenal will go through at home with Gallas( although Campbell would do ok) Song and Asharvin back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 17, 2010, 11:03:35 PM
not only was Hansen the Ref, in the other game Tom Henning Remember him? was given the job of Florentina v bayern & yet again he did a balls of a job, are uefa taking the piss appointing these refs?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on February 17, 2010, 11:54:46 PM
Fair play t Campbell, I thought he played really well and his goal was the icing on the cake for him, he put in an excellent performance.

Arsenal desperately need a decent keeper, if they had a decent keeper they would be right there with the best of them, with a world class keeper they would hardly ever lose and be winning trophies despite a somewhat dodgy defence, they are that good.

I fully expect them to go through, they are better than Porto and I think they, along with United and Chelsea will advance to the quarters.

One last thing though, Wegner is the mickey harte of the premiership, I have never seen a bigger whinger that wegner in my life and that makes him worse than Ferguson.
Crying about quickly taken frees, the arse used to be famous for that in Henry's day, no complaints when it suited him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on February 18, 2010, 04:42:12 AM
Wenger's whingeing is hilarious.   Perfectly fine goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Declan on February 18, 2010, 08:30:12 AM
Two very soft goals. The bould ref again up to his tricks. To me it looked like a peno on Rosicky and then not only does he hand the ball to the Porto lad. He stands in the way of Campbell and then doesn't even signal the free kick till the ball is on it's way - Not excusing Fabianski or Cambpell just pointing out the ref's incompetence.
Still think the Gunners will go through if they have a few lads back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 18, 2010, 08:36:19 AM
Arsene Whinger anyone?? ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 18, 2010, 10:07:13 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 17, 2010, 09:31:10 PM
What is happening with Walcott? He now looks a pretty rubbish player.

Porto like their cheating - fouling and diving non stop...

Nah..Fabregas plays for Arsenal...great player but he comes across as a little shit....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 18, 2010, 11:21:13 AM
QuoteNah..Fabregas plays for Arsenal...great player but he comes across as a little shit....

He could be worse he could be a great player but a big sc**bag shit like John Terry, Ashely Cole, Michael Ballack.....etc etc  ::)


Bizarre circumstances for the 2nd Porto goal, never seen anything like it. Still disappointed with the Arsenal response to it, they same to get worse as the game progressed.

Think they'll win the 2nd leg comfortable enough.

I think the media spotlight on Arsenal's goal keeping failings is certainly not helping and they really need a 30 year old  + goalie with plenty of experience. A 32 year old Buffon would be just the job. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 18, 2010, 12:20:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 18, 2010, 11:21:13 AM
QuoteNah..Fabregas plays for Arsenal...great player but he comes across as a little shit....

He could be worse he could be a great player but a big sc**bag shit like John Terry, Ashely Cole, Michael Ballack.....etc etc  ::)


Bizarre circumstances for the 2nd Porto goal, never seen anything like it. Still disappointed with the Arsenal response to it, they same to get worse as the game progressed.

Think they'll win the 2nd leg comfortable enough.

I think the media spotlight on Arsenal's goal keeping failings is certainly not helping and they really need a 30 year old  + goalie with plenty of experience. A 32 year old Buffon would be just the job.

When is your 12th birthday Dinny??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 18, 2010, 12:23:25 PM
So you are pretty dumb and don't understand someone been sardonic. FFS I even gave the roll eyes to make it easier for you, idiot.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 18, 2010, 12:27:32 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 18, 2010, 12:23:25 PM
So you are pretty dumb and don't understand someone been sardonic. FFS I even gave the roll eyes to make it easier for you, idiot.

Are you being ironic...or maybe sardonic
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 18, 2010, 12:30:18 PM
Now now boys...

Fabregas was poor enough last night. He seems to have got cocky and thinks he can round around with the ball and hold onto it. Could be one of the best in the world if he had that kind of thing knocked out of him.

I don't understand why Wenger won't invest in a good keeper.Some of the poor relations of the premiership have 2+ keepers better than any of arsenal's.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 18, 2010, 12:36:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 18, 2010, 11:21:13 AM
QuoteNah..Fabregas plays for Arsenal...great player but he comes across as a little shit....

He could be worse he could be a great player but a big sc**bag shit like John Terry, Ashely Cole, Michael Ballack.....etc etc  ::)


Bizarre circumstances for the 2nd Porto goal, never seen anything like it. Still disappointed with the Arsenal response to it, they same to get worse as the game progressed.

Think they'll win the 2nd leg comfortable enough.

I think the media spotlight on Arsenal's goal keeping failings is certainly not helping and they really need a 30 year old  + goalie with plenty of experience. A 32 year old Buffon would be just the job.

The most bizarre thing about the second Porto goal was that Jim Beglin made a good point...a quick free anywhere else on the pitch and there's not a word about it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 18, 2010, 12:47:03 PM
Idiots who offer nothing constructive expect childish playground insults annoy me, seriously 'he comes across as a liitle shit'.  WTF is the point of that post, if he was off shagging the mother of his Spanish team-mate's children behind his wife's back, yea well then he would come across as a liitle sh*t. But no he's a combative mid-fielder who at 22 still isn't close to maturity mentally or physically, ships an awful lot of punishment, is probably burdened by the weight of captaincy and expectation, speaks from the heart, shows the occassonal sign of petulance and like any young player suffers dips in form.

The menatlly to criticise every uttering, mistake of sportspeople of any level with vitirol and hyperbole particularly on forums such as this with any qualifcation of said stance is reaching new levels, you can see why so many posters are giving up on this board.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 18, 2010, 12:51:41 PM
QuoteThe most bizarre thing about the second Porto goal was that Jim Beglin made a good point...a quick free anywhere else on the pitch and there's not a word about it.

Have you ever seen a ref run 30 yards, demand the ball, hand the ball to the opposition and proceed to block the defender anywhere on the pitch ever? As soon as the ref touched the ball the whole dynamic changed not to mention he had his back turned and the free kick was taken 5 yards from where the ball occurred. - Like I said quite bizarre that it was allowed stand and since when does anyone ever use Jim Beglin to back them up?

Sure it's all just a UEFA conspiracy against Arsenal  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 18, 2010, 12:55:26 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 18, 2010, 12:51:41 PM
QuoteThe most bizarre thing about the second Porto goal was that Jim Beglin made a good point...a quick free anywhere else on the pitch and there's not a word about it.

Have you ever seen a ref run 30 yards, demand the ball, hand the ball to the opposition and proceed to block the defender anywhere on the pitch ever? As soon as the ref touched the ball the whole dynamic changed not to mention he had his back turned and the free kick was taken 5 yards from where the ball occurred. - Like I said quite bizarre that it was allowed stand and since when does anyone ever use Jim Beglin to back them up?
Sure it's all just a UEFA conspiracy against Arsenal  ::)

Don't you just hate those childish playground insults??

Ironic?? Sardonic??  Do us all a favour and try being laconic.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 18, 2010, 12:57:37 PM
Dom't be getting Norf Tyrone started on conspiracies  :P, the Norwegian Henning distinguished himself last night again I see!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 18, 2010, 12:58:29 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on February 18, 2010, 12:57:37 PM
Dom't be getting Norf Tyrone started on conspiracies  :P, the Norwegian Henning distinguished himself last night again I see!

The truth is out there Doogie  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 18, 2010, 01:00:56 PM
Thanks for spelling that out to AQMP Doogie, he probably didn't get it.

Fewer words would probably appeal to your IQ as well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 18, 2010, 01:02:03 PM
Liked arseblog's description of Fabianski on the first goal - "Somehow Fabianski contrived to chuck it into his own net. Sunday League players would hold their heads in despair if their 51 year old, hungover, half blind, somewhat lame and one armed keeper did that."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 18, 2010, 01:12:33 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 18, 2010, 01:00:56 PM
Thanks for spelling that out to AQMP Doogie, he probably didn't get it.

Fewer words would probably appeal to your IQ as well.

Childish, playground etc
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on February 18, 2010, 01:13:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 18, 2010, 01:02:03 PM
Liked arseblog's description of Fabianski on the first goal - "Somehow Fabianski contrived to chuck it into his own net. Sunday League players would hold their heads in despair if their 51 year old, hungover, half blind, somewhat lame and one armed keeper did that."

arseblog has obviously seen me play then ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: sandwiches_in_the_boot on February 18, 2010, 03:41:32 PM
I was ready for the Sol Campbell story next week on True Movies 2 starring Adrian Lester after his header.

Talk about resurrecting careers, why doesn't Arsene bring back Lou Ferrigno. Let the psychological warfare begin!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 19, 2010, 10:20:21 PM
For the love of God, don't slip up to Sunderland tomorrow at home. If there's one team who are affected psychologically by one defeat it's Arsenal. If they'd lost 2-1 in midweek in a friendly with DC they'd lose their next 3 games as a reaction.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 20, 2010, 10:31:31 PM
It was nervy but job done. Amazing they find themselves 2 behind Utd and 2 wins off Chelsea given the way they're playing. Defensively a mess, passengers in midfield and no attack, yet they could still be standing come April.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 20, 2010, 11:20:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 20, 2010, 10:31:31 PM
It was nervy but job done. Amazing they find themselves 2 behind Utd and 2 wins off Chelsea given the way they're playing. Defensively a mess, passengers in midfield and no attack, yet they could still be standing come April.

if Arsenal had a striker that could score 20+ goals this season they would be top right now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hassletravel on February 27, 2010, 09:42:13 AM
big game for us today, if we get a win today we would be in with a great chance, come on the arse
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on February 27, 2010, 06:07:10 PM
1 - 1

Good old Rodney Trotter
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 06:56:40 PM
horrible injury
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Geoff Tipps on February 27, 2010, 07:06:47 PM
Sickening yeah.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 27, 2010, 07:07:57 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 06:56:40 PM
horrible injury

Went to the loo and missed it, it must being that bad sky not showing it again
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: glens73 on February 27, 2010, 07:08:36 PM
Quote from: gerry on February 27, 2010, 07:07:57 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 06:56:40 PM
horrible injury

Went to the loo and missed it, it must being that bad sky not showing it again

I think his leg, below the kneee, snapped in half. Horrible.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 27, 2010, 07:10:24 PM
Quote from: gerry on February 27, 2010, 07:07:57 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 06:56:40 PM
horrible injury

Went to the loo and missed it, it must being that bad sky not showing it again

what happened to who?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on February 27, 2010, 07:11:33 PM
from the BBC

1858: Shawcross appeared to be wiping away tears as he walked off in shock. Ramsey is being stretchered off. The likes of Thomas Vermaelen and Cesc Fabregas, in particular, look completely stunned. It's bringing back unhappy memories of the Eduardo injury at Birmingham. Ramsey has an oxygen mask as he is carried off down the tunnel.

 
Stoke red card: No, no, no. Even Ryan Shawcross looks traumatised by this - as are a lot of other players. Aaron Ramsey has suffered a horrific injury after a tackle by the Stoke defender. They aren't replaying the incident. I'm not surprised. Ramsey was holding his injured ankle up in the aftermath and it was not at the right angle in any way. Horrible

hope hes OK, dont want to watch that on the TV tonight
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 27, 2010, 07:13:03 PM
I went to the loo in the pub
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 07:13:18 PM
his ankle was twisted the wrong way after the tackle  (Ramsey was tackled by Shawcross who was sent off & was in tears going off)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on February 27, 2010, 07:13:51 PM
His leg was just hanging there, not good at all. Shawcross knew immediately what had happened.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 27, 2010, 07:16:49 PM
Guardian's take on it.

66 min: SHAWCROSS SENT OFF AND RAMSEY SUFFERS HORRIFIC INJURY Oh this is horrible. Shades of Eduardo's injury. A number of players from both sides have their hands on their heads in horror. I genuinely can't look because it's so horrible. Shawcross is walking off in tears. Even now, Vermaelen is on his knees, hands on his head. This is horrible. They are not showing the replay and that must mean it is really, really bad.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 07:21:19 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/27/article-0-087F7134000005DC-891_468x360.jpg

not pretty

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiffler on February 27, 2010, 07:30:04 PM
important 3 points

hope arsenal push on from here now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Catch the high ball on February 27, 2010, 07:32:26 PM
This has to be one of the biggest wins of Arsenals season and I hope they can really kick on with a big title tilt. Very unfortunate what happened to Ramsey, didn't look good, could have been very useful in the run in. Get well soon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on February 27, 2010, 07:33:04 PM
Good man Stiffler!!

Get well soon Rambo!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on February 27, 2010, 07:38:25 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on February 27, 2010, 07:10:24 PM
Quote from: gerry on February 27, 2010, 07:07:57 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 06:56:40 PM
horrible injury

Went to the loo and missed it, it must being that bad sky not showing it again

what happened to who?

I missed it too and was just hoping it wasn't Cesc..Not that I want it to be anyone I actually feel bad now myself..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 07:48:50 PM
i  think the league winners will finish on 84/86 pts so If My Calculations Are Correct arsenal will need to win 9 of there Remaining Games to become the champions
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 08:49:32 PM
Quote from: Boycey on February 27, 2010, 08:36:16 PM
Great spirit shown by Arsenal to win today after what happened... Having seen the tackle several times now it looks a total accident to me. Hope the lad makes a full recovery, hes a great prospect.

yup seen the tackle few times myself yellow card at the most, guys on premier soccer saturday are saying the same

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 27, 2010, 10:50:56 PM
I thought it was reckless - http://www.twitvid.com/CA36B

Great win. 10 wins left.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on February 27, 2010, 10:55:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 27, 2010, 10:50:56 PM
I thought it was reckless - http://www.twitvid.com/CA36B

Great win. 10 wins left.

That type of tackle seems to be described as "full blooded". Just very unlucky for Ramsey, you see tackles every week that look as if they should break legs, but do not.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 10:57:49 PM
it's on Match of the day now will be interesting to see what they make of the tackle?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on February 27, 2010, 11:01:28 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 10:57:49 PM
it's on Match of the day now will be interesting to see what they make of the tackle?

Why, can you not make your own mind up ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 27, 2010, 11:01:58 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 10:57:49 PM
it's on Match of the day now will be interesting to see what they make of the tackle?

You'd probably get a fairer assessment if the tackler had a foreign name.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on February 27, 2010, 11:04:24 PM
Was a mistimed tackle - no malice in the challenge - IMO
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on February 27, 2010, 11:06:12 PM
Wenger is a winge bag.


Pulis said he wouldn't give tuppence for Wenger's opinon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:07:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 27, 2010, 11:01:28 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 10:57:49 PM
it's on Match of the day now will be interesting to see what they make of the tackle?

Why, can you not make your own mind up ?

can't you read up? i made my view on it already ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on February 27, 2010, 11:07:38 PM
Quote from: orangeman on February 27, 2010, 11:04:24 PM
Was a mistimed tackle - no malice in the challenge - IMO

Agree totally, Shawcross took a bad first touch and went in to redeem the ball, no malice whatsoever, ramseys foot unfortuately was  planted on the ground which resulted in the horrific break.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 27, 2010, 11:07:55 PM
Quote from: orangeman on February 27, 2010, 11:04:24 PM
Was a mistimed tackle - no malice in the challenge - IMO

Agreed

Quote from: orangeman on February 27, 2010, 11:06:12 PM
Wenger is a winge bag.


Pulis said he wouldn't give tuppence for Wenger's opinon.

always has been

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on February 27, 2010, 11:08:51 PM
Arsenal have a handy enough run in - could they possibly win it ??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on February 27, 2010, 11:09:06 PM
You see far worse tackles ever week, usually not with that result. I had a feeling Wenger would want him castrated.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on February 27, 2010, 11:11:24 PM
To be fair to Wenger he did apologise for his comments in the immediate aftermath of the Eduardo incident 2 years ago. Spur of the moment stuff.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 27, 2010, 11:11:55 PM
Quote from: orangeman on February 27, 2010, 11:06:12 PM
Wenger is a winge bag.


Pulis said he wouldn't give tuppence for Wenger's opinon.

Jaysus open your eyes. BBC ask him 'what did you think of the tackle?'. Then they run over the Pulis and say 'Wenger says.....'

Shite journalism but people buy it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:12:22 PM
Wenger never sees a Arsenal player doing a bad tackle, yet since he's taken over Arsenal they must have a record for the most players sent off?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 27, 2010, 11:13:08 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 27, 2010, 11:09:06 PM
You see far worse tackles ever week, usually not with that result. I had a feeling Wenger would want him castrated.

Why, what did Wenger say he wanted done to Shawcross?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: bingobus on February 27, 2010, 11:16:15 PM
A full blooded challenge but not a malicous one. Sorry for young ramsey and hope he makes a full recovery. The fact his foot was planted on groung, give him no chance and he was simply too quick for shawcross.

Unfortunate it has happened to Arsenal again but some of the paranona from them and on this thread is uncalled for. They'll see it as the want.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 27, 2010, 11:16:51 PM
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2753483/Ryan-Shawcross-tells-Arsene-Wenger-Im-no-hatchet-man.html

Unfortunate headline from last year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 27, 2010, 11:20:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:12:22 PM
Wenger never sees a Arsenal player doing a bad tackle, yet since he's taken over Arsenal they must have a record for the most players sent off?

Link?



As in you are the missing one.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:24:48 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 27, 2010, 11:20:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:12:22 PM
Wenger never sees a Arsenal player doing a bad tackle, yet since he's taken over Arsenal they must have a record for the most players sent off?

Link?



As in you are the missing one.....

the Question mark maybe a big hint ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 27, 2010, 11:26:55 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:24:48 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 27, 2010, 11:20:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:12:22 PM
Wenger never sees a Arsenal player doing a bad tackle, yet since he's taken over Arsenal they must have a record for the most players sent off?

Link?



As in you are the missing one.....

the Question mark maybe a big hint ;)

So you think a question mark removes any burden such as providing facts to support your nonsense?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:30:24 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 27, 2010, 11:26:55 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:24:48 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 27, 2010, 11:20:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:12:22 PM
Wenger never sees a Arsenal player doing a bad tackle, yet since he's taken over Arsenal they must have a record for the most players sent off?

Link?



As in you are the missing one.....

the Question mark maybe a big hint ;)

So you think a question mark removes any burden such as providing facts to support your nonsense?

what did you just started watching football last week? it's common knowledge the amount of Red Cards Wenger's arsenal teams has got over the last number of years



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 27, 2010, 11:32:47 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:30:24 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 27, 2010, 11:26:55 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:24:48 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 27, 2010, 11:20:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:12:22 PM
Wenger never sees a Arsenal player doing a bad tackle, yet since he's taken over Arsenal they must have a record for the most players sent off?

Link?



As in you are the missing one.....

the Question mark maybe a big hint ;)

So you think a question mark removes any burden such as providing facts to support your nonsense?

what did you just started watching football last week? it's common knowledge the amount of Red Cards Wenger's arsenal teams has got over the last number of years

Could you post a link to this common knowledge?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:36:35 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 27, 2010, 11:32:47 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:30:24 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 27, 2010, 11:26:55 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:24:48 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 27, 2010, 11:20:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:12:22 PM
Wenger never sees a Arsenal player doing a bad tackle, yet since he's taken over Arsenal they must have a record for the most players sent off?

Link?



As in you are the missing one.....

the Question mark maybe a big hint ;)

So you think a question mark removes any burden such as providing facts to support your nonsense?

what did you just started watching football last week? it's common knowledge the amount of Red Cards Wenger's arsenal teams has got over the last number of years

Could you post a link to this common knowledge?

for you yes!
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 27, 2010, 11:39:41 PM
Here's the Fair Play league - http://www.premierleague.com/page/FairPlayTable

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:42:31 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 27, 2010, 11:39:41 PM
Here's the Fair Play league - http://www.premierleague.com/page/FairPlayTable

that's this season!

i'm talking about over a number of years & how wenger never sees a bad tackle by one of his own
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on February 27, 2010, 11:49:48 PM
The current Arsenal team isn't dirty, you could argue if they had someone that could put a few tackles in and disrupt a game they wouldn't have capitulated as badly in certain games this year, notably United.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:53:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 27, 2010, 11:49:48 PM
The current Arsenal team isn't dirty, you could argue if they had someone that could put a few tackles in and disrupt a game they wouldn't have capitulated as badly in certain games this year, notably United.

yep there not dirty now but i wonder would that someone be Mascherano?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 27, 2010, 11:56:04 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2010, 11:42:31 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 27, 2010, 11:39:41 PM
Here's the Fair Play league - http://www.premierleague.com/page/FairPlayTable

that's this season!

i'm talking about over a number of years & how wenger never sees a bad tackle by one of his own

Well, Wenger is fairly open (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/arsenal/article6795557.ece) about this.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 27, 2010, 11:57:15 PM
FFS regardless of intent it was wreckless and stupid and a deserved red, the consequence of the tackle is a broken leg, that is what Shawcross has to be judged on.

It was probably drilled into Shawcross that Arsenal don't like it up 'em subsequently he made a tackle that he normally wouldn't attempt, I don't think he meant to break his leg but only he know his intention and to me it looked like he wanted to take man and ball.

Why anyone would pay attention to Wenger's comments is beyond me, are people that stupid that they don't realise the manipulation that is coming from all sides, the media trying to create a nonsense debate and Wenger in turn using the horrendous tackle as an opportunity to put more pressure on officials and gain his team a possible competitive advantage.

Personally I belive Wenger should take the ignorance approach of Ferguson and just bycott the media altogether.

Generally this thread is reasoned debate even if I did lose the plot a little last week so Ross4life please take your ridiculous banal pointless 'facts' to the childrens thread thanks.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 28, 2010, 12:02:35 AM
Unfathomable how Arsenal are still in this title race. If they beat Burnley 4-0 or by at least 4 goals on Saturday, they'll be top for at least a few hours, and I sorta feel a bit guilty about that!!!

Crazy stuff. Arsenal haven't really clicked this last few months. Today they worked hard. Campbell has been immense every time he has played.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on February 28, 2010, 12:06:07 AM
I am actually glad Campbell is having a renaissance, he was immense at his peak. When he went home at half time against West Ham a few years back, allied to the fact that he is black and allegedly gay, he became a soft touch for vitriol.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 28, 2010, 12:08:55 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 27, 2010, 11:57:15 PM
FFS regardless of intent it was wreckless and stupid and a deserved red, the consequence of the tackle is a broken leg, that is what Shawcross has to be judged on.

It was probably drilled into Shawcross that Arsenal don't like it up 'em subsequently he made a tackle that he normally wouldn't attempt, I don't think he meant to break his leg but only he know his intention and to me it looked like he wanted to take man and ball.

Why anyone would pay attention to Wenger's comments is beyond me, are people that stupid that they don't realise the manipulation that is coming from all sides, the media trying to create a nonsense debate and Wenger in turn using the horrendous tackle as an opportunity to put more pressure on officials and gain his team a possible competitive advantage.

Personally I belive Wenger should take the ignorance approach of Ferguson and just bycott the media altogether.

Generally this thread is reasoned debate even if I did lose the plot a little last week so Ross4life please take your ridiculous banal pointless 'facts' to the childrens thread thanks.

Hmm coming from someone that said a few weeks ago "Chelsea will win the league at a canter" & didn't you also complain about insults & now your trying (quiet poor) yourself
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2010, 12:13:34 AM
QuoteCampbell has been immense every time he has played.

Pretty inspired signing by Wenger but what I like is that he actually been a leader since he has returned. Always liked Sol.

Mentally that win tonight is massive for Arsenal.

No goalie, no striker, no luck, beaten 4 times by their rivals yet will be there or there abouts till the last day, mental stuff altogether....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 28, 2010, 12:18:29 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2010, 12:13:34 AM
QuoteCampbell has been immense every time he has played.

Pretty inspired signing by Wenger but what I like is that he actually been a leader since he has returned. Always liked Sol.

Mentally that win tonight is massive for Arsenal.

No goalie, no striker, no luck, beaten 4 times by their rivals yet will be there or there abouts till the last day, mental stuff altogether....

Losing Ramsey is a blow - he was playing well this year and complemented Fabregas better than Denilson or Diaby. Fcuk me, there's some boys out now with injuries. Wilshere could've been needed!

Great header from Maradona/Pele Bendtner. I'd like to see him do more of that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2010, 12:19:58 AM
QuoteHmm coming from someone that said a few weeks ago "Chelsea will win the league at a canter" & didn't you also complain about insults & now your trying (quiet poor) yourself

Did I hurt your little feelings  :-*

But to qualify the 'at a canter', hindsight is a wonderful thing but if I knew then what I know now, i.e the mental strain on Chelsea's talisman well then I wouldn't have made that rash statement.

Man U will win the league now run along and play somewhere else before I take your ball off you.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2010, 12:23:04 AM
QuoteLosing Ramsey is a blow - he was playing well this year and complemented Fabregas better than Denilson or Diaby. Fcuk me, there's some boys out now with injuries. Wilshere could've been needed!

He was excellent over Christmas and will be a real loss, would imagine Whilshere can be recalled. Diaby I don't mind but if Arsenal have to play Denilson god help us all...


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 28, 2010, 12:28:00 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2010, 12:13:34 AM
QuoteCampbell has been immense every time he has played.

Pretty inspired signing by Wenger but what I like is that he actually been a leader since he has returned. Always liked Sol.

Mentally that win tonight is massive for Arsenal.

No goalie, no striker, no luck, beaten 4 times by their rivals yet will be there or there abouts till the last day, mental stuff altogether....

& you say i talk pointless dribble  ::)

you have plenty of Strikers simply don't score enough of goals!

our main Rival last year was liverpool & they beat united home & away yet united still finished with 90pts

as for your no luck? they get just as much as United & Chelsea......

P.S your really hurting my feelings by not tipping Arsenal   :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 28, 2010, 12:15:28 PM
I'd agree with most of this, from Arseblog.

Stoke 1-3 Arsenal : Ramsey's injury sickening - the media have blood on their hands


May 1st 2006 - Abou Diaby has his ankle fractured and dislocated by a challenge from Dan Smith.

Feb 23rd 2008 - Eduardo has his left fibula fractured and sustains an open dislocation of his ankle joint after Martin Taylor's tackle.

Feb 27th 2010 - Aaron Ramsey has his fibula and tibia broken, his leg left hanging in the air, by Ryan Shawcross.


Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas said immediately after the game:

    In five years I've seen three of them, Abou, Edu and now Aaron. What can I say? It's difficult.

I love Cesc but he's wrong. It's not five years. It's less than four years. These kinds of horror injuries can happen in football. It's a physical sport and such injuries are thankfully rare but they do happen. However, I have never in all my years known one club to suffer three of these potentially career ending injuries, let alone in such a short period of time.

Is it just coincidence? Arsene Wenger said afterwards he doesn't believe in coincidence and I'm with him 100% on this one. I believe that these three injuries are a direct consequence of the 'Arsenal don't like it up 'em' ethos which has become conventional wisdom in recent years.

'They don't like being kicked', the implication that the wimpy foreigners can't take it. And it has been peddled across the football world by reporters, TV pundits, radio commentators, Sky Sports presenters and anyone else you can think of. 'Arsenal don't like it up 'em', as if Arsenal were somehow unique in this. Let me tell you, nobody likes it 'up em'.

No other club has suffered three horrendous injuries like this in the last four years. My honest opinion is that the belief that it's ok to be overly physical with Arsenal because, surprise surprise, they don't like it, is the root cause. If I had to trace it back I think it'd probably start with Sam Allardyce and if I had a time machine that **** would get it good and proper but sadly we can only deal with the here and now.

Before I go on, I'll make this point : I don't think any of the players who carried out these tackles wanted to break another professional's leg. And in that I'm giving Dan Smith the serious benefit of the doubt because his tackle was by far the worst, well late and I think a bit nasty. Even still I don't think he intended to do that kind of damage. Now, let me address the people who say "Well, he's is not that kind of player'.

Duh, you are a f**king moron and you should shut up. Unless the person in question is an actual psychopath of course they're not that kind of player. It goes without saying. Nevertheless they've been told to go out there and get stuck in and give Arsenal a bit extra because, as we all know, they don't like it up 'em. So you have Dan Smith's snide tackle, Martin Taylor's 'reducer' and last night Shawcross's reckless hack at Aaron Ramsey. Did he mean to break his leg? Of course not. Did he want to? No, of course not. The bottom line though is that he did. I feel his tackle was absolutely reckless. Watch it again if you can - via @twistedgambino. If it happened on a football pitch at the very poor level I play at there would have been war, because everyone could see it was unnecessary. At this level of the professional game it was a horrendous challenge.

If I can liken to it something else it's speeding. The young guy in his car who goes out, thinking he's Johnny Invincible, until he careers around a corner too fast and mows down a child. He didn't mean to, but he did it, and he is responsible. "I didn't meant to run the kid over" and "He's not that kind of driver" aren't acceptable excuses in a courtroom so spare me the mealy-mouthed crap over Shawcross. He looked distraught but his tears don't matter. What matters is that a talented young footballer has been the victim of a ridiculous tackle and his leg is broken in pieces.

We know Aaron is going to get the best possible medical care and all we can do is wish the best for him as his career takes an unexpected and horrific diversion. We've seen the impact of these injuries, the fallout is not pretty, and he is probably going to have to battle the same niggles that Eduardo and Diaby have to struggle against all the time. The physical damage is tremendous, not just the broken leg but try to redevelop the muscle and everything else, but so too is the mental damage. Thankfully he's got two guys who can show him the way, who can help through when things get really difficult and when it's time to come back they can help him cross the white line again without fear.

But how f**king heartbreaking is it that we have those two players? I will admit to being rather emotional watching that game last night. It was obvious from the first instant what had happened and I felt sick for Aaron Ramsey. A kid of 19. It leaves you angry. And angrier because this is not the first time it has happened to Arsenal. Nor the second. But the third inside four years and quite frankly enough is enough.

Immediately afterwards on Sky we had Richard Keys and Andy Gray making excuses. "Is it because Arsenal are too quick?", said Keys. f**k me. No. It's not because we're too quick, it's because we've been on the receiving end of some obscene tackles. "Sometimes you have to play them like that", said Gray, referring to the fact that Arsenal don't like it up 'em. Well, he's the thing - as far as I'm concerned, Andy Gray, Richard Keys, the rest of those utter c***ts at Sky, and anyone else who has helped perpetrate that myth over the years is in some way culpable for the fact that Aaron Ramsey had his leg busted like a twig last night. They have gone on and on and on about it and this, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens.

(http://www.oleole.com/media/main/images/blogs/images/group1/subgrp31/blogimg_1650_6107-20100228091338288141.jpg)

Aaron Ramsey's leg broken

Arsene Wenger addressed it already this season at one his press conferences.

    I am always absolutely amazed that people get away with it. When we get kicked and lose the game, the question I get from the press is 'oh, you did not fancy that'. But nobody is upset or shocked by it. When we are kicked they find that it is absolutely all right.

And the assembled hacks had a little titter and off they went to do exactly that. The furore over Gallas's tackle after the Bolton game was incredible. I don't remember any pundit saying "He's not that kind of player", only slamming him for what was, I agree, a bad challenge. The Shawcross apologists are out in force today yet these are the same people who made such a mountain out of the molehill that was Eduardo's dive against Celtic that UEFA 'investigated' and tried to ban him. A dive. Yet when a young man has his leg broken in bits they keep their mouths shut or come out in defence of the honest English clogger (any coincidence all three challenges have been by Englishmen?). Honestly, they make me f**king sick. This willingness to overlook acts of horrific violence yet focus on trivia like diving.

Shawcross gets a three match ban, Alex Song is now banned for two matches for a booking that never was. How the f**k does that work in any sane kind of world? It's rotten to the core, is what it is.

And back to Sky for a moment. If anything sums up their hypocrisy it's the decision not to show replays of the tackle. Why not? They say it's because the images are too upsetting. Firstly, who the f**k made them the arbiters of good taste? Why do they get to decide what is and isn't acceptable? People have buttons on their remote which say 'off' or 'channel up'. If they don't want to watch it, advise them and they can turn it off. As the broadcaster who has done most to big up the 'Arsenal don't like it up 'em' thing they have a responsibility to show what happened to Aaron Ramsey. To show what a tackle like that can do. To show that when you egg people on enough and they think it's ok to behave recklessly that there are consequences.

For Ramsey it's a broken leg and a year out of the game, all going well. For Arsenal we lose a talented player at a crucial part of the season ... and we have to watch another of our lads injured in a way that would bring tears to your eyes. And there are consequences even for Shawcross who I think was utterly reckless. The tackle on Ramsey was not his first wild lunge of the night but he's been told to go out and play like that. He didn't want to break Ramsey's leg. I'm sure it'll make him sick, give him nightmares and all the rest. I'm not suggesting he's a victim by any means but he is a byproduct of this media led scheme too. I don't feel sorry for him but I think it's a fair point in the grand scheme of things.

I'm sure there are some reading this who will say 'Arsenal aren't whiter than white'. And that's true. No team that plays a high intensity physical sport can say that. Yet no other team has been on the receiving end of the kind of injuries we have. That is a fact. One you can put down to an accident, two could be just unfortunate, three ... too much. And enough is enough. I'm sure this will get plenty of coverage on Arsenal blogs, many of whom I'm sure feel the same way about this as I do, but there are good journalists and sports writers out there who also have a platform and, in my opinion, a duty to address this issue. If they love football then they can't ignore this.

Some will, Shawcross has been called up the England squad which affords a player a certain amount of protection from the most jingoistic and snide journalists. I do hope there are others who will take up the baton though. Not against Shawcross in particular but on the general issue. It is not ok to kick Arsenal, or any other team, out of a game. We all love the physical aspect of football, it's part of what makes it such a great game, but there's a line you don't cross and too often now teams have crossed it with us, without so much as a word of condemnation. Instead there's the sly smile, the snigger and the sneering about how 'Arsenal don't like it up 'em'.

It is not acceptable. The consequences of that mindset were obvious last night as a 19 year old boy screamed in agony as his leg hung at a sickening angle. This is the outcome of your sly smiling and your sneering. Are you happy now?

Before I finish on this particular section, props to Stoke's Glen Whelan who stayed with Aaron Ramsey from the moment it happened. A cut above the rest. To the Stoke fans who applauded Aaron off the field, fair play to you. To the rest who chanted abuse as he lay injured and gave him w**ker signs as he was taken off the pitch on a stretcher, you are f**king pondlife. I hope you die roaring.

Finally, it seems a bit trite and redundant but I want to wish Aaron Ramsey all the best and I hope we see him back in an Arsenal shirt, where he belongs, as soon as possible.

As for the game, what can you say? It doesn't bear much analysis in terms of the performance but one thing stood out for me. Cesc Fabregas. Our captain. When Eduardo was injured against Birmingham we went to pieces, culminating in the toe-curling sight of then captain William Gallas throwing a tantrum when we gave away a late penalty. Last night we were a bit tentative after the incident, which is only natural, but it became clear this is a different Arsenal team. There was no feeling sorry for ourselves. No dwelling on things we couldn't change.

Cesc Fabregas became the leader Arsenal fans have so dearly wanted for so long. I won't hear a thing about how he's not a captain because he f**king well is. First goal - assist for Bendtner's fantastic header. Second goal - a penalty under the most intense pressure imaginable. He had the balls to get up there, take it and score it. Third goal - assist for Vermaelen. Nor did he stand for any of Stoke's baiting. He had a little kick at one of their players who had kicked him earlier. He Sssshhh'd Tony Pulis. He dragged his Arsenal team over the line. He led by example last night and at the end of the game our players stood in a huddle, knowing they'd shown what they're made of, and the captain rallied his troops. Each one of them was fantastic last night. The lessons of Birmingham have been learned.

I know people all have their opinions of this team, the players, the managers and everything else but if last night didn't make you proud to be an Arsenal fan then there's something wrong with you. My spine is tingling even thinking about it.

I think that sometimes we lose sight of why and how we support our football club, and while you'd never want to be reminded because of what happened to Aaron Ramsey last night did just that. Our reaction, our desire, our spirit, our togetherness, it was the Arsenal.

I love the Arsenal.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 28, 2010, 12:33:41 PM
Good blog and hard to argue with. Andy Gray and Sam Allardyce are dungbags. The type of skill and flair shown by Arsenal over the years is an alien concept to "Big Sam" and managers of other teams lower down the table. The only way to counter it is to take the fancy dans out at the knees.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on February 28, 2010, 03:56:05 PM
Quote from: Boycey on February 28, 2010, 12:31:59 PM
Rubbish mate - the lad was simply unlucky and Arsenal have been unlucky as a club over the last number of years with such injuries.

To be honest I don't remember Dan Smiths tackle but the other two I thought were just desperately unlucky incidents where the real harm was done because the two players had just planted their feet at the moment of impact rather than any malicious intent. I've never bought into this "Arsenal don't like it up em" crap. Football is a physical/contact sport and teams like Stoke etc are perfactly entitled to play to their physical strengths. Being physical doesn't equate to being dirty in my opinion. Wengers first championship team at Arsenal was as physical a team as has been about in the last 20 years but it didn't stop them playing great football.

Agree, irrational ramblings of an overemotional supporter. Arsenal have probably played somewhere in the region of 150-175 games since Diaby's injury. Another two similar injuries in that time is unfortunate, but it takes a certain frame of mind to see a trend in such sporadic events.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2010, 04:07:30 PM
Quotebut it takes a certain frame of mind to see a trend in such sporadic events.

Or a certain frame of mind not to see the trend, Arsenal are the most fouled team in the Premiership, wood for trees comes to mind.

The fact that Shawcross boke Jefferies Ankle a few years ago and now Ramsey's leg is all just a terrible coincidence.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Lady GAA GAA on February 28, 2010, 04:13:53 PM
Everyone's out to get 'the Arsenal'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2010, 04:20:17 PM
Quote from: Lady GAA GAA on February 28, 2010, 04:13:53 PM
Everyone's out to get 'the Arsenal'

Na just limited English plodders who inevitably aren't that type of player...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Lady GAA GAA on February 28, 2010, 04:26:46 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2010, 04:20:17 PM
Quote from: Lady GAA GAA on February 28, 2010, 04:13:53 PM
Everyone's out to get 'the Arsenal'

Na just limited English plodders who inevitably aren't that type of player...

Honestly,I'm just off the phone to everyone and they said they're gonna try to break your players' legs next time out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on February 28, 2010, 04:51:11 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2010, 04:07:30 PM
Quotebut it takes a certain frame of mind to see a trend in such sporadic events.

Or a certain frame of mind not to see the trend, Arsenal are the most fouled team in the Premiership, wood for trees comes to mind.

The fact that Shawcross boke Jefferies Ankle a few years ago and now Ramsey's leg is all just a terrible coincidence.

If this is true it'd be nice to see the stats somewhere. You may well be right, but it wouldn't be unlike Arsenal to be economical with the truth (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/arsenal-victims-of-a-conspiracy-claims-wenger-790052.html) in these matters. Like I said, it's fine if you want to see a trend in once in eighty events, but surely you can see why others don't.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2010, 05:28:30 PM
It's based only my own one eyed perception and conjecture. In the 130 odd games how many broken legs have other teams suffered, surely it should be on average three, even one? The EPL has less yellow cards and red cards per game than any of the other top leagues, it allows these humble genuine plodders commit bad foul after bad without been properly sanctioned, these plodders wouldn't survive in Spain or Germany yet in the EPL they are allowed forge a career out of it.

The likes of Ferdinand, King are top defenders when do you seem them revert to a 'he doesn't like it up em' attitude. That is what the media constantly protray about Arsenal and your average plodder buys it hook line and sinker hence Arsenal suffer a disportionate number of leg breaks and ankle ligament injuries.

What also amazes me is that Billy Gallas commited a bad foul against Bolton followed by a media witch hunt to get him suspended but Billy is Johnny Foreigner, Shawcross is an upcoming English Plodder despite his previous so he gets treated differently.

Wonder what would have if someone like Mascherano happens to break Wayne Rooney's leg, would Mascerano be protrayed as ' not that kind of lad', would he f*ck....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on February 28, 2010, 05:41:24 PM

That's bollox Dinny. I don't remember the diaby one but edwardo and ramsey were very unlucky. i happen to believe that taylor did not deserve a red for his challenge and i definately believe Shawcross was unlucky to be sent off. By the way, Shawcross is no plodder. he's a fantastic footballer in my view. football isn't just about passing the ball, thank god, and that sort of snobbery does arsenal no favours.

You make the point that shawcross deserved to go based on the result of the challenge. again, that's bollox. A tackle should be judged by the conventions of the game and the perceived intent. consequences and results of tackles can be so inadvertant.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2010, 05:51:20 PM

QuoteYou make the point that shawcross deserved to go based on the result of the challenge. again, that's bollox. A tackle should be judged by the conventions of the game and the perceived intent. consequences and results of tackles can be so inadvertant.

The intent was clear he went in to win man and ball and to lay down a marker, it was wreckless and stupid, he got nowhere the ball and broke Ramsey's leg, if that's not a straight red good help us all.

And to claim Taylor's tackle wasn't a red when he went straight over the ball beggers belief.

Shawcross is a plodder, he maimed Adebayor last year as well who incidently had to be stretchered off not to mention breaking Franny Jeffries ankle. It's nothing to with snobbery (more media manipulation) but appreciation of talented footballers who can actually play a bit not a plodder like Shawcross who can head the odd goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on February 28, 2010, 06:02:20 PM

I can see the argument for taylr getting a red and i'd expect refs to send him off, but i wouldn't. I thought he genuinely attempted to play the ball and edwardo's feet were too quick for him.

Shawcross is a fantastic centre half - top 5 in the league and superior to any of arsenal's centre halves. being a good footballer at centre half means anticiapting play, tackling well, winning headers, organising, etc. you're view of a talented footballer is obviously different to mine. for example, denilson is a player i wouldn't have in the united reserve team. what use is a midfielder that can't tackle, has no mental strength and whose only redeeming feature is the capacity to pass the ball sideways to a teammate? at least the original crab could tackle
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2010, 06:18:45 PM
Quotedenilson is a player i wouldn't have in the united reserve team. what use is a midfielder that can't tackle, has no mental strength and whose only redeeming feature is the capacity to pass the ball sideways to a teammate? at least the original crab could tackle

Don't think anyone would take up that arguement.  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2010, 06:48:53 PM
QuoteWent back and had another look at tackle there I'm sorry (f**k that sounds like Andy Gray) I just can't see what you see in it

Did he win the ball? Was he even close? It was wreckless and stupid and that is my last comment.

Was Shawcross not released by Man U, can't see Chelsea or Arsenal signing him because they need guys who are comfortable on the ball and have concentration levels due to their teams possession games, Shawcross will never play at Champions League level, he's your typical over-rated English plodder who can head a ball and make good honest tackles. He's no Rio Ferdinand or John Terry.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on February 28, 2010, 07:06:39 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2010, 06:48:53 PM
QuoteWent back and had another look at tackle there I'm sorry (f**k that sounds like Andy Gray) I just can't see what you see in it

Did he win the ball? Was he even close? It was wreckless and stupid and that is my last comment.

Was Shawcross not released by Man U, can't see Chelsea or Arsenal signing him because they need guys who are comfortable on the ball and have concentration levels due to their teams possession games, Shawcross will never play at Champions League level, he's your typical over-rated English plodder who can head a ball and make good honest tackles. He's no Rio Ferdinand or John Terry.

No, he was sold for a million, which has probably doubled in add on fee since then. Probably seemed like good business at the time considering he was behind seventh or eight in the pecking order, but in hindsight it would've been better to hold onto him for another while.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 28, 2010, 08:12:05 PM
I hadn't really paid much attention to Shawcross in the past, but I see he has a bit of a record:

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2hno10x.jpg)

and

http://twitvid.com/3BCE0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Lady GAA GAA on February 28, 2010, 11:43:09 PM
Jesus, would younse quit with the persecution complex and also the vilification of Shawcross. His initial touch was too heavy, it's instinct to take a swing for the ball when it's there in front of you and there's an immediate threat that someone might get there before you. Ramsey nicked it away, there was no way Shawcross could avoid it. There was zero intent on Shawcross' behalf.

Wenger's comments are ludicrous, especially set against the backdrop of the disgraceful challenge by Gallas v Bolton and the ensuing comments by Wenger essentially brushing it aside as a nothing challenge. His bias and refusal to be reasoned in his assessments is nothing short of ridiculous.


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 01, 2010, 12:02:37 AM
Quote from: Lady GAA GAA on February 28, 2010, 11:43:09 PM
His initial touch was too heavy, it's instinct to take a swing for the ball when it's there in front of you and there's an immediate threat that someone might get there before you. Ramsey nicked it away, there was no way Shawcross could avoid it.

I'd disagree with this.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 01, 2010, 12:41:22 AM
I'm a neutral who likes Arsenal and admire them for the football they play but in all fairness I've looked at it 4 times now. . . there are VERY few players who play/have played soccer that would not have made that tackle Shawcross did, it was instinctive and just unfortunate.

I hope Ramsey makes a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 01, 2010, 12:42:29 AM
Quote from: Lady GAA GAA on February 28, 2010, 11:43:09 PM


Wenger's comments are ludicrous, especially set against the backdrop of the disgraceful challenge by Gallas v Bolton and the ensuing comments by Wenger essentially brushing it aside as a nothing challenge. His bias and refusal to be reasoned in his assessments is nothing short of ridiculous.

How does this equate with Wenger saying - "I am sorry if the tackle was not good, and I apologise".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/arsenal/7041770/Arsenal-manager-Arsene-Wenger-sorry-for-William-Gallas-tackle-on-Boltons-Mark-Davies.html

Please, as Dinny says, use this thread to say something constructive. This is not a Man Utd/Liverpool thread.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 01, 2010, 12:43:57 AM
Quote from: screenexile on March 01, 2010, 12:41:22 AM
I'm a neutral who likes Arsenal and admire them for the football they play but in all fairness I've looked at it 4 times now. . . there are VERY few players who play/have played soccer that would not have made that tackle Shawcross did, it was instinctive and just unfortunate.

I hope Ramsey makes a speedy recovery.

I have never been hacked like that and i'd imagine if I was it'd be viewied as clueless/reckless.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 01, 2010, 01:34:30 AM
Quote from: screenexile on March 01, 2010, 12:41:22 AM
I'm a neutral who likes Arsenal and admire them for the football they play but in all fairness I've looked at it 4 times now. . . there are VERY few players who play/have played soccer that would not have made that tackle Shawcross did, it was instinctive and just unfortunate.

I hope Ramsey makes a speedy recovery.

As an Arsenal supporter IMHO it was a total accident. Very unlucky for Ramsey and hopefully, as seems to be the norm these days, he will make a full recovery.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on March 01, 2010, 07:09:36 AM
http://i48.tinypic.com/2rz7uid.jpg

Maybe check this out. It would appear that the damagewas done BEFORE any contact from Shawcross :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 01, 2010, 08:09:02 AM
Although i'm not an Arsenal fan i do have alot of time for Arsene Wenger and admire the way he sets his teams up to play and i also have sympathy for what he said at the weekend. Over a relatively short period of time he has lost 3 players to horrific broken legs. Is this a conincidence?
I dont for one minute think people intentionaly go out to break legs but i have no doubt that teams go out to "hammer it into arsenal" and "put it up em" as this will put arsenals skillful players off their game. This physical approach to playing against arsenal, in my opinion has led to the over zealous tackles that have led to the 3 broken legs - so i feel wenger has a point.
The three teams who arsenal has suffered the injuries against Sunderland (i think), Birmingham and now Stoke couldnt live with Arsenal on football ability so they compensate by increasing the physicality! I'm not saying that these teams shouldnt do this - just saying that i think that was Wenger's point.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on March 01, 2010, 08:17:05 AM
Arsenal have no cutting edge......would the same teams that "put it up to Arsenal" have done it when Vierra, Adams and Keown played?

I don't think so. Hope Ramsey makes a full recovery and is back playing soon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on March 01, 2010, 08:33:04 AM
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2rz7uid.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on March 01, 2010, 11:06:44 AM
I feel very sorry for Ramsey and hope he's back as soon as possible however the comments by AW after the game were disgraceful.  Has the man no shame?   It was a 50/50 ball and Shawcross could just as easily have been the one with broken leg.  Had Ramsey not suffered such a horrific injury Shawcross woould not have been sent off and perhaps not even booked!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 01, 2010, 11:18:53 AM
Which comment in particular did you find disgraceful?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 01, 2010, 11:25:08 AM
I remember Liverpool suffering something similar a while ago, I think Cisse broke his leg twice, and Carragher broke his too. All in a relatively short period. I think Lucas Neil broke two of them.

Shocking stuff for young Ramsey, but I don't think it was malicious. It wasn't studs out that usually characterises these leg breakers, it looked like he was trying to kick the ball. Ramsey's foot was planted and that was the problem.

I think Shawcross was unlucky enough to get a red card, but at the same time, it was late and possibly without due care, i.e. reckless. You do have a duty of care to your opponents in all games, and if you get 'loose' with that, you have to expect unfortunate results to your actions, and possibly red cards.

I hope Ramsey recovers quickly, and that it is a clean break.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: J OGorman on March 01, 2010, 11:35:42 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 01, 2010, 12:02:37 AM
Quote from: Lady GAA GAA on February 28, 2010, 11:43:09 PM
His initial touch was too heavy, it's instinct to take a swing for the ball when it's there in front of you and there's an immediate threat that someone might get there before you. Ramsey nicked it away, there was no way Shawcross could avoid it.

I'd disagree with this.

I'd completely agree with GAA GAA, not sure how you can not agree...very very unfortunate result, but not done with intent.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on March 01, 2010, 11:40:50 AM
QuoteWhich comment in particular did you find disgraceful?

That it was no coincidence that 3 arsenal players have got injured and his inference that team set out to injure Arsenal players.  An unfortunate accident yet he tries to make it out as part of an underhand conspiracy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 01, 2010, 11:44:18 AM
How on earth is it instinct to take a swing at a ball because someone else might get it? If that was the case there'd be very few men left standing at the end of a game.

Shawcross's tackle was reckless, clumsy - call it what you will - and for the second time he has broken a leg/ankle of an opposing player in 3 years. He also put Adebayor out for three weeks last year with another ankle cruncher.

In any other discipline, errors like that which result in serious injury to others would be harshly dealt with.

Wenger spoke out last year about Shawcross and now this happens - he is totally to blame for this, not through maliciousness but by stupidity.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 01, 2010, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: under the bar on March 01, 2010, 11:40:50 AM
QuoteWhich comment in particular did you find disgraceful?

That it was no coincidence that 3 arsenal players have got injured and his inference that team set out to injure Arsenal players.  An unfortunate accident yet he tries to make it out as part of an underhand conspiracy.

No, he didn't make out that there was a conspiracy. He was intimating that opposing sides set out to rough Arsenal up and it's a fair assessment that this Arsenal side don't really like it. Unfortunately, some players/managers take it too far with the result being what you saw on Saturday. Watch Arsenal v Sunderland a couple of weeks ago. Fabregas was battered/kicked around the field. Is that what top level soccer is about?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Bensars on March 01, 2010, 11:57:27 AM
Think it was an accident.

"How on earth is it instinct to take a swing at a ball because someone else might get it?"  Thats part and parcel of midfield play. Patrick Viera was never too backward, but then again maybe top level soccer has moved on since his time at Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on March 01, 2010, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 01, 2010, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: under the bar on March 01, 2010, 11:40:50 AM
QuoteWhich comment in particular did you find disgraceful?

That it was no coincidence that 3 arsenal players have got injured and his inference that team set out to injure Arsenal players.  An unfortunate accident yet he tries to make it out as part of an underhand conspiracy.

No, he didn't make out that there was a conspiracy. He was intimating that opposing sides set out to rough Arsenal up and it's a fair assessment that this Arsenal side don't really like it. Unfortunately, some players/managers take it too far with the result being what you saw on Saturday. Watch Arsenal v Sunderland a couple of weeks ago. Fabregas was battered/kicked around the field. Is that what top level soccer is about?

The premiership is all about survival for most of the teams, and any manager worth his salt will know that where Arsenal are concerned if you can stop Fabregas then there is a good chance that you will stop Arsenal.
Quit whingeing, you are in with a great chance of winning the premiership, something you wouldn't have believe at Xmas.   
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: bingobus on March 01, 2010, 12:08:58 PM
If teams went out to delibarately injure/hurt/nail Arsenal players, that Fab would have been creamed long ago by one of these tackles. Gallas "tackle" V Bolton was every bit as bad but luckily the outcome was less.

These things happy in football, players can suffer terrible injuries, be it from tackles like that or just by turning with no-one round them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 01, 2010, 12:13:47 PM
Quote from: Bensars on March 01, 2010, 11:57:27 AM
Think it was an accident.

"How on earth is it instinct to take a swing at a ball because someone else might get it?"  Thats part and parcel of midfield play. Patrick Viera was never too backward, but then again maybe top level soccer has moved on since his time at Arsenal.

You're not getting it. Of course it was an accident. No one sets out to break someone's leg. No one is saying that. The point is that it was dangerously reckless and should've been harshly dealt with. When Shawcross nails a third player will action be taken? You can't smash into and injure someone on the road and say 'it was an accident' expecting the minimum punishment. Recklessness is a danger.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on March 01, 2010, 12:15:28 PM
QuoteFabregas was battered/kicked around the field. Is that what top level soccer is about?

Fabregas is a midfielder and gives as much as he takes.  He didn't get a fraction of the kickings/hatchet jobs that Ronaldo got.  Highly skillful players must live with that and yes that's what top level soccer is about.   Hypocrite Wenger "never sees it" when his own players dish it out funnily enough.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Bensars on March 01, 2010, 12:18:36 PM
You cannot compare driving on the road and a contact sport. Never mind a contact sport comprising of professional athletes.

He was punished. He was sent off and by your very own admission "Of course it was an accident. No one sets out to break someone's leg".
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 01, 2010, 12:29:56 PM
In order to close this debate, I think it's best if you admit I'm right and move along.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: bingobus on March 01, 2010, 12:38:44 PM
If you are right then and Wenger is right, what is the outcome?

No tackle rule introduced against Arsenal? Any player who has previously injured an opponent/been red carded/considered dirty/considered potential dirty isn't allowed to take to the field against Arsenal? Arsenal to appoint their own referee and he will take charge of all there matches?

I fail to see what can be done?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on March 01, 2010, 01:41:49 PM
QuoteIn order to close this debate, I think it's best if you admit I'm right and move along.

By resorting to this as a response you've effectively admitted you are wrong by the fact you are incapable of credible response.   AW eat your heart out.   On that note let's see if he's got the nads to accept Adebayor's challenge to debate his exit from the club with him on air.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on March 01, 2010, 01:54:44 PM

By the reasoning on this thread, Rooney should have been sent off the day he broke his metatarsal. He was clumsy and reckless.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2010, 01:55:58 PM
Some people it seems are as mypoic about Wenger as Wenger is about his players, any excuse to have a pop whether there is merit or not.

At least we learned one thing from the weekend, Almunia is no longer the worse keeper in the EPL.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 01, 2010, 02:00:10 PM
Quote from: under the bar on March 01, 2010, 01:41:49 PM
QuoteIn order to close this debate, I think it's best if you admit I'm right and move along.

By resorting to this as a response you've effectively admitted you are wrong by the fact you are incapable of credible response.   AW eat your heart out.   On that note let's see if he's got the nads to accept Adebayor's challenge to debate his exit from the club with him on air.

Au contraire my good man. It's my policy, and one on this thread moreso, that you don't repeat the same opinion over and over and over. It gets silly then. No one ever changes sides...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on March 01, 2010, 03:16:33 PM
QuoteIn order to close this debate, I think it's best if you admit I'm right and move along.

By resorting to this as a response you've effectively admitted you are wrong by the fact you are incapable of credible response.   AW eat your heart out.   On that note let's see if he's got the nads to accept Adebayor's challenge to debate his exit from the club with him on air.

Au contraire my good man. It's my policy, and one on this thread moreso, that you don't repeat the same opinion over and over and over. It gets silly then. No one ever changes sides...

If AW had said the following we would not even be having this debate.

"Ramsey has suffered a terrible injury however I also feel sorry for the boy Shawcross because even tho he went in hard, I accept he did intend to injure Aaron". 

Every team gets players legs broken at some point but only one manager complains every time and tries to apportion 100% of the blame to the other team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 01, 2010, 03:43:47 PM
I can't make head nor tail of Wenger's fictional statement there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 01, 2010, 06:08:44 PM
1) Can we have the pots on one side, then all the kettles on the other.

2) Then you can all beat the crap out of each other for 5 minutes.

3) Afterwards the pots will be allowed 5 minutes of pointing out comments that were disgraceful.

4) Then the kettles will be allowed to defend any such comments.

If that doesn't settle it go back to 1) above and start again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on March 01, 2010, 06:56:13 PM
Quote from: Bensars on March 01, 2010, 12:18:36 PM
You cannot compare driving on the road and a contact sport. Never mind a contact sport comprising of professional athletes.

He was punished. He was sent off and by your very own admission "Of course it was an accident. No one sets out to break someone's leg".

Except if your name is Roy Keane.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Worker on March 01, 2010, 06:57:48 PM
Quote from: stew on March 01, 2010, 06:56:13 PM
Quote from: Bensars on March 01, 2010, 12:18:36 PM
You cannot compare driving on the road and a contact sport. Never mind a contact sport comprising of professional athletes.

He was punished. He was sent off and by your very own admission "Of course it was an accident. No one sets out to break someone's leg".

Except if your name is Roy Keane.

he should have done time for that
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 01, 2010, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: stew on March 01, 2010, 06:56:13 PM
Quote from: Bensars on March 01, 2010, 12:18:36 PM
You cannot compare driving on the road and a contact sport. Never mind a contact sport comprising of professional athletes.

He was punished. He was sent off and by your very own admission "Of course it was an accident. No one sets out to break someone's leg".

Except if your name is Roy Keane.

More libel Stew? Prove it or take that shit down.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Lady GAA GAA on March 01, 2010, 07:44:44 PM
ONeill does your condescension know no bounds?

Recklessness has an element of foreseeability about it. I don't think one can be said to be reckless in making a split-second decision to try and kick the ball.

You're like a little pup, hinging on Wenger's every word and backing him to the hilt (eg your attempt to slur Shawcross.)

Oh, and here is where Wenger makes light of the Gallas challenge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5mpzn75kmE
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 01, 2010, 11:40:16 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 01, 2010, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: stew on March 01, 2010, 06:56:13 PM
Quote from: Bensars on March 01, 2010, 12:18:36 PM
You cannot compare driving on the road and a contact sport. Never mind a contact sport comprising of professional athletes.

He was punished. He was sent off and by your very own admission "Of course it was an accident. No one sets out to break someone's leg".

Except if your name is Roy Keane.

More libel Stew? Prove it or take that shit down.

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 01, 2010, 11:42:04 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 01, 2010, 11:40:16 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 01, 2010, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: stew on March 01, 2010, 06:56:13 PM
Quote from: Bensars on March 01, 2010, 12:18:36 PM
You cannot compare driving on the road and a contact sport. Never mind a contact sport comprising of professional athletes.

He was punished. He was sent off and by your very own admission "Of course it was an accident. No one sets out to break someone's leg".

Except if your name is Roy Keane.

More libel Stew? Prove it or take that shit down.

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 01, 2010, 11:50:02 PM
Maybe he meant Roy Keane is a crap driver.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on March 02, 2010, 03:54:04 AM
Quote from: muppet on March 01, 2010, 07:00:31 PM
Quote from: stew on March 01, 2010, 06:56:13 PM
Quote from: Bensars on March 01, 2010, 12:18:36 PM
You cannot compare driving on the road and a contact sport. Never mind a contact sport comprising of professional athletes.

He was punished. He was sent off and by your very own admission "Of course it was an accident. No one sets out to break someone's leg".

Except if your name is Roy Keane.

More libel Stew? Prove it or take that shit down.

More shit talk from the kn**ker that is stew!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 02, 2010, 10:31:04 PM
To add to Jeffers, Adebayor and Ramsey - here's our good friend 'he's not like that' Shawcross in action again when he played for Antwerp on loan....even the Dutch are afeard of him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JImCLHKXTOs
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 02, 2010, 11:06:34 PM
Let it go O'Neill, let it go us Kettles or are we the Pots have virtue on our side we know how reckless Shawcross can be...

At the rate Arsenal are clearing their debt, I'd imagine Le Prof could be pretty busy in the summer..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/arsenal/7323207/Arsenal-post-large-half-year-pre-tax-profits.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/arsenal/7323207/Arsenal-post-large-half-year-pre-tax-profits.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 02, 2010, 11:23:11 PM
France v Spain tomorrow. Hoping to get through that unscathed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 03, 2010, 07:55:18 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 02, 2010, 11:23:11 PM
France v Spain tomorrow. Hoping to get through that unscathed.

What position are you playing?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 03, 2010, 09:56:32 AM
Left settee. Wife on the right. Remote in the middle. Could cut up rough.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on March 03, 2010, 10:34:18 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 02, 2010, 11:06:34 PM
At the rate Arsenal are clearing their debt, I'd imagine Le Prof could be pretty busy in the summer..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/arsenal/7323207/Arsenal-post-large-half-year-pre-tax-profits.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/arsenal/7323207/Arsenal-post-large-half-year-pre-tax-profits.html)

£35 million? Nice one, that's at least half a dozen tackle averse French 17 year olds right there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 03, 2010, 07:22:10 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 03, 2010, 09:56:32 AM
Left settee. Wife on the right. Remote in the middle. Could cut up rough.

Who's marking John Terry?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 03, 2010, 09:12:38 PM
Fabregas played the first half just and came through unscathed. Torres just came on and polaxed Gourcuff who was stretchered off. Sagna playing well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2010, 11:17:15 AM
So, a four goal win tomorrow at home to Burnley and they're top outright. Mad position to be having after the hammerings from Manure and the BNP.

Talk of Diaby, Denilson and Arshavin being fit again. Sol should be able to handle one game a week.

Walcott's crappy performance v Egypt is good news for Arsenal. He needs to play blinders between now and the end of the season to have a chance of heading to SA.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2010, 10:47:09 PM
For those with itunes - listen to today's Arsecast.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 06, 2010, 09:49:15 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 05, 2010, 11:17:15 AM
So, a four goal win tomorrow at home to Burnley and they're top outright. Mad position to be having after the hammerings from Manure and the BNP.

Don't forget Chelsea beat yousons twice too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 11:34:21 AM
He might rub some up the wrong way but his press conference every Friday is great viewing at times.

Small section of this week's - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/8552620.stm
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 02:25:23 PM
                 Almunia,
Eboue, Silvestre, Vermaelen, Clichy,
                 Denilson
Walcott, Rosicky, Fabregas, Nasri,
                Bendtner

Subs: Fabianski, Diaby, Sagna, Eduardo, Arshavin, Traore, Eastmond
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 02:27:00 PM
You'd worry about that balax Silvestre.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Yes I Would on March 06, 2010, 03:37:18 PM
1 up. Cesc.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 03:38:27 PM
Lovely 1-2 with Nasri.

Arsenal have the rarest of fans. Sort of a polite hand clapping session for the goal.

Should've been 2-0.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 03:41:29 PM
Walcott lookin boxin.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 03:42:09 PM
Fabregas subbed after 38 mins??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 03:53:06 PM
1-0 at ht. Could easily have had 4.

Hopefully Fabregas's subbing was a precaution.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 03:56:28 PM
Fabregas goal (http://www.d1g.com/video/space/sports/show/?id=3640665)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 06, 2010, 04:00:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 03:42:09 PM
Fabregas subbed after 38 mins??

another injury for us
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:04:12 PM
Didn't seem too bad. He was hobbling a bit around 20 mins, stayed on, scored the goal and then dandered off. Looked like hamstring tweek.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:05:57 PM
Walcott is fired up and has put in 2 crosses which Bendtner has fluffed. Just wish he'd tear at the defenders.

Song is a big loss already. Denilson is trying to do the same job but seems nervous on the ball.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:09:32 PM
Make that three crosses. First minute, great ball from Walcott. Bender fluffs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:12:07 PM
Make that 4. Unbelieveable.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:13:23 PM
...and Burnley score...1-1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 06, 2010, 04:13:38 PM
is Bendtner still chewing the gum after that Burnley goal?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:15:15 PM
Another Bendtner miss. Fcuk sake.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 06, 2010, 04:16:11 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:13:23 PM
...and Burnley score...1-1

thats not in the script
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:20:19 PM
I honestly believe I'd have scored 3 of Bendtner's chances.

Walcott has taken to shooting now instead of passing to him.

Should be 10-1 already. 57 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:22:21 PM
Nasri playing a stormer. Walcott seeing a lot of the ball too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:23:17 PM
Goal Walcott - AT last - took them on, turned inside and whallop.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:26:04 PM
This is a joke of a game. 4-5 Arsenal players in the box every time waiting on the pass and they're cocking up. Arshavin misses from 6 yrds. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 06, 2010, 04:27:33 PM
how much would arsenal be winning this if Bendtner wasn't playing??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:28:04 PM
Bendtner. Un f**king believeable. Walcott tees him up 4 yrds out. Wide.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:28:53 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 06, 2010, 04:27:33 PM
how much would arsenal be winning this if Bendtner wasn't playing??

Beyond funny now. Really is.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:31:28 PM
Fcuk. Now he won't pass to anyone and is running in zigzags with the ball around the penalty area.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 06, 2010, 04:35:39 PM
I remember watching this years ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD93d2Blkhc

but it i think even Bendtner tops that display today
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:36:19 PM
Bender off.

Even the foreign commentator says "finally".
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:43:57 PM
This is a dodgy lead.

Burnley seeing more of ball.

81 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:47:56 PM
Eff me pink. That was a chance for Burnley. 85 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:49:07 PM
Arshavin miss.

Bendtner went off laughing. If Burnley score he'll be permanently smiling.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:56:29 PM
3-1. Arshavin

That was a massive chance to pile on the goal difference. Bendtner's performance a memorable one.

Still that's win 4 out of the 13.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 06, 2010, 04:58:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:56:29 PM
3-1. Arshavin

That was a massive chance to pile on the goal difference. Bendtner's performance a memorable one.

Still that's win 4 out of the 13.

I'm beginning to believe he has Mayo Gaa connections.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 05:01:18 PM
Would have to give Walcott MOTM. He tortured them, along with Eboue down that side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 06, 2010, 05:03:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 04:56:29 PM


Still that's win 4 out of the 13.

the best i think Arsenal have done this Season is 4 win's in row do you honestly think they can win 13 in a row?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 05:07:38 PM
After Chelsea, they had 13 relatively winnable games left. 4 down, 9 to go.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 06, 2010, 05:22:27 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 05:07:38 PM
After Chelsea, they had 13 relatively winnable games left. 4 down, 9 to go.

winnable yes but even Chelsea & united on top form would find it hard to win 13 in a row
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 06, 2010, 05:24:37 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 06, 2010, 05:22:27 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 05:07:38 PM
After Chelsea, they had 13 relatively winnable games left. 4 down, 9 to go.

winnable yes but even Chelsea & united on top form would find it hard to win 13 in a row
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 05:29:15 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 06, 2010, 05:22:27 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 06, 2010, 05:07:38 PM
After Chelsea, they had 13 relatively winnable games left. 4 down, 9 to go.

winnable yes but even Chelsea & united on top form would find it hard to win 13 in a row

If Van Persie had been fit, it'd be very possible. Without a striker of note, Arsenal will probably come unstuck somewhere. Prob away to Spuds.

Nasri was excellent today playing Cesc's role. Eduardo's loss of pace is alarming - sad to see.

You really have to give it to Bendtner. When his number came up, the crowd clapped and you could almost hear laughing. He then laughs himself and puts his arms out as if 'it's not my fault'. Some ego.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on March 08, 2010, 01:44:12 PM
Saturdays game was the one to convince me the title will be ours in May - on the way back to Stansted on Saturday night this feeling was echoed by all Arsenal supporters.

By the way - Bendtner may have had a bad day in front of goal but his workrate was excellent throughout and I would rather have him fit and playing in the team than out with an injury - remember his goal last week probably won us the game...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on March 08, 2010, 02:55:18 PM
quote]Saturdays game was the one to convince me the title will be ours in May [/quote]

It would be a travesty should that occur when you're not even the best team in your own city never mind the country.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 08, 2010, 03:28:08 PM
Quote from: under the bar on March 08, 2010, 02:55:18 PM
QuoteSaturdays game was the one to convince me the title will be ours in May

It would be a travesty should that occur when you're not even the best team in your own city never mind the country.

It would be travesty alright.

Just like it's a travesty that some rich Russian oligarch decides to put hundreds of millions into buying titles thereby defeating prudently run teams with sound business models.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 08, 2010, 05:55:13 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 08, 2010, 03:28:08 PM
Quote from: under the bar on March 08, 2010, 02:55:18 PM
quote]Saturdays game was the one to convince me the title will be ours in May

It would be a travesty should that occur when you're not even the best team in your own city never mind the country.

It would be travesty alright.

Just like it's a travesty that some rich Russian oligarch decides to put hundreds of millions into buying titles thereby defeating prudently run teams with sound business models.
[/quote]


prudently run teams as in enticing teenage players over from france/spain with huge wages?

Chelsea may have used a rich Russian man's money for title's but City must have spent as much now?

speaking of money spent... Sure in the last 3 years Arsenal must have spent as much as Chelsea?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 08, 2010, 06:03:32 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 08, 2010, 05:55:13 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 08, 2010, 03:28:08 PM
Quote from: under the bar on March 08, 2010, 02:55:18 PM
QuoteSaturdays game was the one to convince me the title will be ours in May

It would be a travesty should that occur when you're not even the best team in your own city never mind the country.

It would be travesty alright.

Just like it's a travesty that some rich Russian oligarch decides to put hundreds of millions into buying titles thereby defeating prudently run teams with sound business models.


prudently run teams as in enticing teenage players over from france/spain with huge wages?

Chelsea may have used a rich Russian man's money for title's but City must have spent as much now?

speaking of money spent... Sure in the last 3 years Arsenal must have spent as much as Chelsea?

Read it again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 08, 2010, 06:33:35 PM
so sound business = not winning anything since 2005 fa cup? of course if arsenal win the league this Season like most on here are starting to believe it may be better business
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 08, 2010, 06:42:42 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 08, 2010, 06:33:35 PM
so sound business = not winning anything since 2005 fa cup? of course if arsenal win the league this Season like most on here are starting to believe it may be better business

Do you even know what I am talking about?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 08, 2010, 07:04:49 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 08, 2010, 06:42:42 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 08, 2010, 06:33:35 PM
so sound business = not winning anything since 2005 fa cup? of course if arsenal win the league this Season like most on here are starting to believe it may be better business

Do you even know what I am talking about?

your taking about Chelsea using money for short time success while you  believe in the long run Arsenal will be greater than them with their better business sense.......... right??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 08, 2010, 07:10:23 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 08, 2010, 07:04:49 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 08, 2010, 06:42:42 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 08, 2010, 06:33:35 PM
so sound business = not winning anything since 2005 fa cup? of course if arsenal win the league this Season like most on here are starting to believe it may be better business

Do you even know what I am talking about?

your taking about Chelsea using money for short time success while you have believe in the long run Arsenal will be greater than them with their better business sense.......... right??

Do you think that the only possible conversation about football is we are great and will win everything while everyone else is useless?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/apr/07/champions-league-football-liverpool-arsena-chelsea-manchester-united-wealth (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/apr/07/champions-league-football-liverpool-arsena-chelsea-manchester-united-wealth)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 08, 2010, 07:28:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 08, 2010, 07:10:23 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 08, 2010, 07:04:49 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 08, 2010, 06:42:42 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 08, 2010, 06:33:35 PM
so sound business = not winning anything since 2005 fa cup? of course if arsenal win the league this Season like most on here are starting to believe it may be better business

Do you even know what I am talking about?

your taking about Chelsea using money for short time success while you have believe in the long run Arsenal will be greater than them with their better business sense.......... right??

Do you think that the only possible conversation about football is we are great and will win everything while everyone else is useless?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/apr/07/champions-league-football-liverpool-arsena-chelsea-manchester-united-wealth (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/apr/07/champions-league-football-liverpool-arsena-chelsea-manchester-united-wealth)

i never said anything about a team been useless if they don't win anything?

but when a team is good like Arsenal are now! don't you think they should be winning more trophies than they are

united/Chelsea success won't last forever but at least they can look back on what they won & not what might have been


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 08, 2010, 08:16:10 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 08, 2010, 07:28:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 08, 2010, 07:10:23 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 08, 2010, 07:04:49 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 08, 2010, 06:42:42 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 08, 2010, 06:33:35 PM
so sound business = not winning anything since 2005 fa cup? of course if arsenal win the league this Season like most on here are starting to believe it may be better business

Do you even know what I am talking about?

your taking about Chelsea using money for short time success while you have believe in the long run Arsenal will be greater than them with their better business sense.......... right??

Do you think that the only possible conversation about football is we are great and will win everything while everyone else is useless?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/apr/07/champions-league-football-liverpool-arsena-chelsea-manchester-united-wealth (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/apr/07/champions-league-football-liverpool-arsena-chelsea-manchester-united-wealth)

i never said anything about a team been useless if they don't win anything?

but when a team is good like Arsenal are now! don't you think they should be winning more trophies than they are

united/Chelsea success won't last forever but at least they can look back on what they won & not what might have been

Do you understand the difference in the finances of the clubs?

Chelsea and now Manchester City are financial basket cases who only survive because of 'loans' from a wealthy benefactor. All clubs have a certain amount of debt but not all have to pay it off. Prudent clubs with sensible business models are at a disadvantage because they must divert funds to service their debt. The other clubs can use all their funds to buy the best players and pay them better salaries. This gives them an unfair advantage. See Mick McCarthy's comments on Portsmouth.

Looking further down the line if nothing is done about this the successful clubs will be those which are simply a plaything for a billionaire while the rest will become also-rans. As these benefactors can pull the plug on their clubs at any time which would be disaster for their respective leagues (and catastrophic for the clubs themselves) these individuals will ultimately end up in a position to control football completely.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 08, 2010, 08:26:17 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 08, 2010, 08:16:10 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 08, 2010, 07:28:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 08, 2010, 07:10:23 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 08, 2010, 07:04:49 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 08, 2010, 06:42:42 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 08, 2010, 06:33:35 PM
so sound business = not winning anything since 2005 fa cup? of course if arsenal win the league this Season like most on here are starting to believe it may be better business

Do you even know what I am talking about?

your taking about Chelsea using money for short time success while you have believe in the long run Arsenal will be greater than them with their better business sense.......... right??

Do you think that the only possible conversation about football is we are great and will win everything while everyone else is useless?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/apr/07/champions-league-football-liverpool-arsena-chelsea-manchester-united-wealth (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/apr/07/champions-league-football-liverpool-arsena-chelsea-manchester-united-wealth)

i never said anything about a team been useless if they don't win anything?

but when a team is good like Arsenal are now! don't you think they should be winning more trophies than they are

united/Chelsea success won't last forever but at least they can look back on what they won & not what might have been

Do you understand the difference in the finances of the clubs?



Yes! & Barcelona are a good example on how a club should be run with great success!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 11:23:24 AM
This Champions' League is a bit of a nuisance. The league is the eggs in basket job.

Will the Bender continue his hot streak?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 09, 2010, 07:56:37 PM
First chance tonight & he scores "football bloody hell"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 07:58:54 PM
Pele.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 08:12:09 PM
Ha! another for the Bender.

He's gonna be unbearable now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 09, 2010, 08:16:04 PM
well at least he's not wearing those pink boots tonight
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 09, 2010, 08:20:07 PM
Great start just need to keep it tight at the back
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 08:23:39 PM
Some miss from the Russian. Need that 3rd goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 08:29:43 PM
Bendtner's first (http://www.d1g.com/video/space/sports/show/?id=3646060)

Commentator says he has never scored a hat trick in senior football.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 09, 2010, 08:39:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 08:23:39 PM
Need that 3rd goal.

How so? it's porto that Need to Score! Arsenal are through as it stands
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 09, 2010, 08:40:40 PM
Good start but need the third goal to take the pressure of, need to make sure with all the chances we are getting we need to make them count not like sat when we missed loads.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 08:40:58 PM
I wouldn't be too convinced by Arsenal's defence. Campbell looking dodgy. A third goal will settle any nerves.

Mad as Jens:

Bendtner started the new season by announcing a change in his Arsenal squad number for the 2009/10 season. "Before the season starts I wanted to change my squad number from 26 which I've obviously had for a number of seasons. I chose to move to 52 because it's a special number to me personally, and I hope that it brings me good luck for the new season. I appreciate that a good number of fans have bought their kits for 2009/10 already with names and numbers printed up so I'd like to personally cover the cost of replacing anyone's shirt that has my previous number. It means a lot to see supporters wearing your name and number, and I want to ensure people aren't inconvenienced by the change."

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Keyser soze on March 09, 2010, 08:51:19 PM
Hi any links to the game?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 09, 2010, 08:57:25 PM
On phone so no links but google justin tv, p2p and livefootie.org
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 09:00:33 PM
Porto the better team this first 10 mins of the second half. Very exposed at the back.

I'd say we'll see Eboue and Walcott before long to put them on the back foot.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 09:04:28 PM
Jays Arsenal really sloppy this half. Porto goal looking imminent.

Eboue on for Rosicky. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 09:08:47 PM
What a goal from Nasri!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 09:09:57 PM
Was about to say he'd been fairly shite today.

Must try it. Arshavin has been shite.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 09, 2010, 09:11:23 PM
Messi like goal from Nasri! while the 4th goal was a united type goal  :o this game is done & dusted time to switch over to other game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 09, 2010, 09:17:59 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 09:09:57 PM
Was about to say he'd been fairly shite today.


Clears one of line one minute and them goes up the field and scores another
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on March 09, 2010, 09:19:18 PM
That porto team is pathetic. 2 goals which they shouldnt have got in portugal and hammered in london. Have to say though if united do make it through wouldnt mind getting arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 09, 2010, 09:28:46 PM
Nearly a hat trick
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on March 09, 2010, 09:32:24 PM
When Arsenal are in the mood they really are entertaining to watch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 09:36:39 PM
World Footballer of the Year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerrykeegan on March 09, 2010, 09:37:46 PM
At 4 nil I backed porto, think i should get a mention in the Dumb people thread!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 09, 2010, 09:38:45 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 11:23:24 AM
This Champions' League is a bit of a nuisance. The league is the eggs in basket job.



Well it's gonna become a even bigger nuisance now! after arse play their 2nd leg in the next round they have to play spurs away at 1245 the following Saturday
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on March 09, 2010, 09:39:07 PM
Quote from: gerry on March 09, 2010, 09:28:46 PM
Nearly a hat trick

Should have had about 7 in 2 games
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 09:39:23 PM
Remarkably, that's the first time in 30 yrs Arsenal have overturned a first leg deficit in Europe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 09, 2010, 09:53:12 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on March 09, 2010, 09:39:07 PM
Quote from: gerry on March 09, 2010, 09:28:46 PM
Nearly a hat trick

Should have had about 7 in 2 games
But he got there in the end
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 09, 2010, 11:00:24 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 09:09:57 PM
Was about to say he'd been fairly shite today.

Must try it. Arshavin has been shite.

Nasri? I thought he was excellent throughout the game and it seems that when he plays that Fabregas role he is every bit as good as him! Big boost for Wenger for when Cesc has to go to Barca.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 11:40:53 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 09, 2010, 11:00:24 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 09:09:57 PM
Was about to say he'd been fairly shite today.

Must try it. Arshavin has been shite.

Nasri? I thought he was excellent throughout the game and it seems that when he plays that Fabregas role he is every bit as good as him! Big boost for Wenger for when Cesc has to go to Barca.

Don't mind me, Nasri and Arshavin (despite his tendancy to lose possession in key areas) were the best players on the field.

However, serious concerns about Nasri's underwear:

(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n44/del77_2000/nasris.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 09, 2010, 11:45:12 PM
Anyone got a link for nasris goal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 11:49:35 PM
Nasri's goal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uNKGiyM_Vw)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 11:55:05 PM
Ref tells Porto keeper to give Bendtner the hattrick (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F_CSSPxmjc)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on March 10, 2010, 10:08:51 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 09, 2010, 11:55:05 PM
Ref tells Porto keeper to give Bendtner the hattrick (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F_CSSPxmjc)

He wasn't as generous as the defenders for Nasri's goal.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 10, 2010, 05:12:25 PM
Watched the first half last night - Big Sol was all at sea. He'd have been destroyed by a decent set of forwards. He just kept bumping into people and sticking his arm up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 10, 2010, 06:00:56 PM
QuoteHe wasn't as generous as the defenders for Nasri's goal

Ah yes the auld it wasn't a great goal it was terrible defending arguement. Tut! Tut! It was quite simply a thing of beauty it wasn't the Longford defence he was up against now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 10, 2010, 10:45:00 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on March 10, 2010, 05:12:25 PM
Watched the first half last night - Big Sol was all at sea. He'd have been destroyed by a decent set of forwards. He just kept bumping into people and sticking his arm up.

Definitely. Arsenal's only chance now is to score more than their opponents, home and away. No 2006 clean sheet run here.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 10, 2010, 10:54:55 PM
Need the Spuds to beat Fulham in the FA Cup  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 12, 2010, 10:54:37 PM
Our friennd Tango Brown tomorrow at 5.30. Will be depending on wireless tomorrow on way to Omagh.

No Cesc, Song and Rosicky. Sol also doubtful. Will be a matter of getting the 3 points anyway possible. I'd imagine Bendtner has a stinker/sent off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 12, 2010, 11:11:53 PM
hull are pretty awful away 5-1 to Everton & 6-1 liverpool proves that but they are decent enough at home beating city & Drawing with chelsea in recent weeks but i expect Arsenal to win this 2-1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on March 13, 2010, 07:37:14 PM
Bender in the ninety f**king fourth minute  >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 13, 2010, 09:48:46 PM
in arsenals last two away games both looked to be heading for 1-1 draws until stoke & hull went down to 10 men & injury time goals made 2 points become 6

the gooners will need this kind of luck to continue if they hope to win the league

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on March 13, 2010, 09:50:25 PM
I am really startin to fancy the arse for this league but can't really understand how the feck they can win it ???

If that makes sense
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Yes I Would on March 13, 2010, 10:03:56 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on March 13, 2010, 09:50:25 PM
I am really startin to fancy the arse for this league but can't really understand how the feck they can win it ???

If that makes sense

Everything says they shouldnt! Keeper is a clown, Centre half is almost 40, and bout 4 months ago was playin in third division, main striker out for most of season, and everything about his replacement says he just cant be any good at football, but if i were bettin on the front three now, id be backing the Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 13, 2010, 10:04:57 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on March 13, 2010, 09:50:25 PM
I am really startin to fancy the arse for this league but can't really understand how the feck they can win it ???

If that makes sense

Me too, the Stoke game and tonights would have been games they wouldn't have won before. They are not unlike Liverpool last year, coming with the wet sail but with very little margin for error. Would have to win 7 out of last 8 I would think. Would like to see them winning the league.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on March 13, 2010, 10:12:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 13, 2010, 10:04:57 PM
Would like to see them winning the league.

Me too only I have 2 mates who support them and they are the cockiest f**kers ever and I'll never hear the end of it. At least I'll always have the europe card ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on March 13, 2010, 10:14:27 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on March 13, 2010, 10:03:56 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on March 13, 2010, 09:50:25 PM
I am really startin to fancy the arse for this league but can't really understand how the feck they can win it ???

If that makes sense

Everything says they shouldnt! Keeper is a clown, Centre half is almost 40, and bout 4 months ago was playin in third division, main striker out for most of season, and everything about his replacement says he just cant be any good at football, but if i were bettin on the front three now, id be backing the Arsenal.

That pretty much sums up my confusion
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 13, 2010, 11:05:40 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 13, 2010, 11:17:52 PM
Gooners Still have Birmingham, Spurs away & Man city at home these games won't be easy! as for the other 5 games i expect them to win

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 13, 2010, 11:22:24 PM
Bendtner will don a crown for the West Ham game, most likely.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 13, 2010, 11:25:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 13, 2010, 11:22:24 PM
Bendtner will don a crown for the West Ham game, most likely.

3-0 bendtner hat trick so  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on March 14, 2010, 02:13:29 AM
C'mon my sons !!

Get in there !!!

This title is ours !!

No doubt about it !!!

!!!! GET IN THERE !!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on March 14, 2010, 12:51:40 PM
Disgraceful antics from Boateng yesterday. No chance he would get a ban like the rugby boys though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on March 18, 2010, 06:08:38 PM
New Arsenal jersey for next season? Looks the part.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/03/18/article-0-08C47F55000005DC-14_468x367.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2010, 11:20:07 AM
Barca. Bollocks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 19, 2010, 12:08:53 PM
The two best footballing sides in Europe, what price a 0-0 draw in the 1st leg though?!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 19, 2010, 01:48:22 PM
About time the goons got a soft draw, wonder who'll they'll play in the final..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 19, 2010, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: Doogie Browser on March 19, 2010, 12:08:53 PM
The two best footballing sides in Europe, what price a 0-0 draw in the 1st leg though?!!

lol
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2010, 02:46:03 PM
Arsenal will do well to keep clean sheets. Sol squaring up to Messi gives me nightmares.

Henry to miss a last minute penalty on purpose.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 19, 2010, 03:23:42 PM
Barcelona have a football team apparently.

Does anyone know anything about them?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 19, 2010, 03:41:16 PM
so it's  barca for ye boys! will be interesing to see how Arse cope with 30% possession?

http://www.soccer-training-info.com/barcelona_greatest_team_or_possession_kings.asp

this tie will be won & lost in camp nou

& have a feeling inter (maureen factor) will beat the winners
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Paul Mc Graths Da on March 19, 2010, 07:44:15 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 19, 2010, 03:41:16 PM
so it's  barca for ye boys! will be interesing to see how Arse cope with 30% possession?

http://www.soccer-training-info.com/barcelona_greatest_team_or_possession_kings.asp

this tie will be won & lost in camp nou

& have a feeling inter (maureen factor) will beat the winners

What a dick!!             

BORE OFF!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 19, 2010, 07:47:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 19, 2010, 02:46:03 PM
Arsenal will do well to keep clean sheets. Sol squaring up to Messi gives me nightmares.

Henry to miss a last minute penalty on purpose.

Big Sol has already stuck one past Barca in the latter stages of the champions league. We may as well get the feckers now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2010, 08:36:52 PM
This is a great test for Fabregas to see how good he really is...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2010, 10:43:08 PM
Great test all round. You'd worry in the Nou Camp second leg, although in the semis last year Arsenal did well enough at Oul Tramford.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2010, 10:48:20 PM
The Hammers tomorrow. A chance to go top overnight to put a wee bit of pressure on the Yanks before the visit of the Scousers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 20, 2010, 05:14:59 PM
Almunia,
Eboue, Campbell, Vermaelen, Clichy,
Fabregas, Song, Denilson,
Nasri, Bendtner, Arshavin.

Subs: Fabianski, Diaby, Sagna, Rosicky, Eduardo, Walcott, Silvestre
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on March 20, 2010, 05:24:24 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 19, 2010, 10:48:20 PM
The Hammers tomorrow. A chance to go top overnight to put a wee bit of pressure on the Yanks before the visit of the Scousers Yanks.

Fixed that for you ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on March 20, 2010, 06:56:34 PM
Links for the match?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on March 20, 2010, 06:58:11 PM
Another terrible decision for the sending off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 20, 2010, 07:35:25 PM
Phew. Dodgy sending off but can't see it being overturned. Silvestre and Sol in the run-in may be the straw that broke the baste's back. Song very important to this side now.

Onwards and upwards though. 7 wins left.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 24, 2010, 07:46:43 AM
(http://www.oleole.com/media/main/podcasts/arsecast/newkit10.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Uladh on March 24, 2010, 08:30:49 AM

Were the "The Emirates" flying 125 years ago?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Olly on March 24, 2010, 09:50:03 AM
Vermaelen only gets the one match ban. Hopefully the players have their minds well away from the Barca clash next week. Birmingham could be a tricky venue this Saturday.

Hard to see him playing Campbell on Saturday and Wednesday. Silvestre could be wheeled out alongside Song.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on March 24, 2010, 09:52:36 AM
You follow the Arse then Olly?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: supersarsfields on March 24, 2010, 09:53:19 AM
Was that under the wrong user olly???  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Olly on March 24, 2010, 09:59:40 AM
I have been an Arsenal supporter since 1999 and have been attending matches since 2002. My first game was a game at Old Trafford that won a league that year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 24, 2010, 10:54:38 AM
Welcome on board young Olly. I don't think he'll save Campbell for the Barcelona game. Sol might b more suited to the Birmingham game with Silvest a little bit more mobile for Messi alongside the Belgian.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: supersarsfields on March 24, 2010, 12:00:48 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 20, 2010, 07:35:25 PM
Phew. Dodgy sending off but can't see it being overturned. Silvestre and Sol in the run-in may be the straw that broke the baste's back. Song very important to this side now.

Onwards and upwards though. 7 wins left.

Quote from: Olly on March 24, 2010, 09:50:03 AM
Vermaelen only gets the one match ban. Hopefully the players have their minds well away from the Barca clash next week. Birmingham could be a tricky venue this Saturday.

Hard to see him playing Campbell on Saturday and Wednesday. Silvestre could be wheeled out alongside Song.

Ummm, interesting use of spacing in both posts.  :P
Title: Good man Andrey!
Post by: ONeill on March 24, 2010, 12:17:06 PM
Andrey Arshavin Thinks Arsenal Are Not Strong Enough To Win The Premier League Title

Arsenal winger Andrey Arshavin believes that his team are not strong enough to compete with Manchester United and Chelsea in the race for the Premier League title.

The Russian international thinks that the Gunners need more players if they are going to win trophies in the future.

"I am still of the opinion that to win trophies Arsenal needs more players," Arshavin told The Mirror.

"There is the simple fact that last summer we sold two players [Emmanuel Adebayor and Kolo Toure] and bought only one. So there is an obvious deficit of at least one.

"Then we lost Robin van Persie, Kieran Gibbs and Aaron Ramsey for a long time, obviously until the end of the season. So for me it is natural that we need new players."

With Arsenal trailing United by two points with seven games remaining, Arshavin is of the belief that the Gunners will have a hard time winning the championship with their current squad.

He said: "The English Premier League is very interesting for me, at least as long as we continue fighting to win it.

"But without new experienced players, real stars, it will be difficult to achieve success.

"Ideally we need three or four such experienced players and then among our youths there should be guys who are not only playing good football - but have real character."

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 25, 2010, 08:43:23 AM
How did Vermaelen not have his ban increased as a result of a failed appeal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 25, 2010, 09:12:00 AM
Because it wasn't frivolous, it was a dodgy sending off in fairness.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 25, 2010, 09:20:39 AM
If it was dodgy then would the appeal not have been successful.  The fact remains that both Rio and Vermaelen were sent off, appealed and lost their appeals.  Yet one of them had their ban increased based on the fact they lost their appeal, while the other didn't.  Fergie surely has a point regarding to the FA discriminating against United players.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 25, 2010, 09:43:49 AM
No one was frivolous and one wasn't, it's not rocket science, it's not like Vermaelen smashed his forearm into somebody's face  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 25, 2010, 09:59:25 AM
Looks like Arsenal have goal difference as well as an obstacle in the run in. Big win for Chelsea last night.

Any word on when this Spurs games will be played? Prob between May 1st and May 9th?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 25, 2010, 10:16:51 AM
April 14th I think
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 25, 2010, 10:31:35 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 25, 2010, 09:43:49 AM
No one was frivolous and one wasn't, it's not rocket science, it's not like Vermaelen smashed his forearm into somebody's face  ::)

But Ferdinands extra suspension was given as a result of unsuccessfully appealing the initial card, not because of the actual incident.  Therefore Vermaelen should have had the same punishment dished out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 25, 2010, 10:33:09 AM
Look up frivolous will you....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 25, 2010, 10:41:10 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 25, 2010, 10:31:35 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 25, 2010, 09:43:49 AM
No one was frivolous and one wasn't, it's not rocket science, it's not like Vermaelen smashed his forearm into somebody's face  ::)

But Ferdinands extra suspension was given as a result of unsuccessfully appealing the initial card, not because of the actual incident.  Therefore Vermaelen should have had the same punishment dished out.

I haven't seen the Vermaelen incident, but the reason Rio got the extra game was because it was very clear that he deserved the suspension i.e. it was a very obvious elbow. The extra game is to stop people wasting time by appealing these cases when they have zero chance of winning it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 25, 2010, 10:44:57 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 25, 2010, 10:16:51 AM
April 14th I think

Oh No.

Tis me birthday and I have a vague memory of Spurs (Gazza) and the FA Semi Final.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 25, 2010, 10:46:41 AM
I am not disputing whether or not one of the sendings-off was frivolous and one was not, my grape lies with the fact that there seems to be one rule for a United player and another for non-United players.  Irrelevant of the actual incident that led to the red card, if a player decides to appeal then the additional punishment handed dished out to one player who is unsuccessful should also be dished out to any other player who is also unsuccessful. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 25, 2010, 10:50:34 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 25, 2010, 10:46:41 AM
I am not disputing whether or not one of the sendings-off was frivolous and one was not, my grape lies with the fact that there seems to be one rule for a United player and another for non-United players.  Irrelevant of the actual incident that led to the red card, if a player decides to appeal then the additional punishment handed dished out to one player who is unsuccessful should also be dished out to any other player who is also unsuccessful.

There is not one rule for a United player and one for a non United player. There is one rule for those who appeal friviously and one rule for those who don't.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 25, 2010, 10:56:48 AM
Tottenham 3-1 Arsenal, FA Cup semi-final, 14 April 1991

Paul Gascoigne's two visits to Wembley in 1991 both ended with him weeping. The first featured "the best free-kick in the history of the FA Cup", in the words of Terry Venables. The second, Spurs' final win over Nottingham Forest, was cut short by a knee injury that nearly destroyed his career. But Gascoigne's greatest moment, and there were many in that Cup run, came in the semi-final against Arsenal. He almost didn't make it – he'd had an abdominal operation just 34 days earlier – but he quickly stamped his authority on the game by thumping a 30-yard howitzer past David Seaman. "Wasn't bad, was it?" he surmised.

"I don't think they took anything out when they operated," said the watching Lawrie McMenemy, commentating for BBC radio. "I think they put something in." Gascoigne, who needed two injections on the night before the match to cure "stomach nerves", lasted just an hour before being replaced, knackered, by Nayim. Seaman, incidentally, blamed himself for that and one of Gary Lineker's two goals. "Sorry lads," he said at half-time, "my studs got caught in the turf." Tottenham, some £18m in debt, badly needed some cheer. Arsenal were to get some of their own when they sealed the league title a few weeks later.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 25, 2010, 10:57:28 AM
Quote from: Boycey on March 25, 2010, 10:53:08 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on March 25, 2010, 10:50:34 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on March 25, 2010, 10:46:41 AM
I am not disputing whether or not one of the sendings-off was frivolous and one was not, my grape lies with the fact that there seems to be one rule for a United player and another for non-United players.  Irrelevant of the actual incident that led to the red card, if a player decides to appeal then the additional punishment handed dished out to one player who is unsuccessful should also be dished out to any other player who is also unsuccessful.

There is not one rule for a United player and one for a non United player. There is one rule for those who appeal friviously and one rule for those who don't.

Anyone know what the rule is for Stevie Starfish ??

The Rule for Gerrard is that he is currently suffering enough as it is, and therefore no extra punishment is merited under the Geneva Convention and human rights legislation.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 25, 2010, 11:23:03 AM
Why is he called Stevie Starfish?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 25, 2010, 11:59:37 AM
Because of a rare muscular condition whereby his 5 extremeties (head, left hand, right hand, right foot, left foot) all fly in different directions when he comes in contact with an opposition player, usually after he has just allowed the ball to run away from him. This condition, also known as Divitis has also been known to affect people when they just think they might have been touched, or might be about to be touched.

Other well known victims are Didier Drogba, Christiano Ronaldo and Wayne Rooney. Formerly Robert Pires was the most obviously afflicted.

A Starfish, yesterday.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11/05/article-1083319-025C380C000005DC-799_468x495.jpg)

Gerrard : unavailable for comment.
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/willow/starfish-info0.gif)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 25, 2010, 12:09:28 PM
Very good  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 25, 2010, 08:24:24 PM
Heading over to my first game against wolves next weekend with my son, any recommendations of what to do or go. Not flying out to monday morning so i will have sunday free

As he only 13, girls and poles are out of the question
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on March 25, 2010, 09:36:03 PM
Quote from: gerry on March 25, 2010, 08:24:24 PM
Heading over to my first game against wolves next weekend with my son, any recommendations of what to do or go. Not flying out to monday morning so i will have sunday free

As he only 13, girls and poles are out of the question

Covent Garden on Sunday morning. Full of street entertainers . Your lad will enjoy it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 25, 2010, 10:52:19 PM
Might have to give him a miss going by the facebook photos
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: john mcgill on March 26, 2010, 06:49:32 PM
Barcelona have asked to train at Lords Cricket Ground before the Champions League fixture
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Watcher Pat on March 26, 2010, 06:57:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 25, 2010, 10:16:51 AM
April 14th I think
Weds night after FA cup semi.. Hopefully Pompey will give the spuds all the want. Heading over to watch it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on March 26, 2010, 07:31:06 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 25, 2010, 11:59:37 AM
Because of a rare muscular condition whereby his 5 extremeties (head, left hand, right hand, right foot, left foot) all fly in different directions when he comes in contact with an opposition player, usually after he has just allowed the ball to run away from him. This condition, also known as Divitis has also been known to affect people when they just think they might have been touched, or might be about to be touched.

Other well known victims are Didier Drogba, Christiano Ronaldo and Wayne Rooney. Formerly Robert Pires was the most obviously afflicted.

A Starfish, yesterday.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11/05/article-1083319-025C380C000005DC-799_468x495.jpg)

Gerrard : unavailable for comment.
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/willow/starfish-info0.gif)

:D

Feck 'do the bartman' it should be renamed ' do the starfish'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 27, 2010, 04:46:31 PM
Golatto!

Need to hang on now. Villa getting pasted 6-1 by Chelski.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 27, 2010, 04:51:57 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on March 27, 2010, 04:52:17 PM
Off side - freak goal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on March 27, 2010, 04:55:02 PM
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 27, 2010, 04:55:47 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on March 27, 2010, 04:55:02 PM
:D :D :D

Will you be doing a sad face in the Chelsea thread?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 27, 2010, 04:58:11 PM
Freaky goal but Alumnia should have done better, could prove a crucial point though if Bolton get something from the Man U game..

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 27, 2010, 05:03:03 PM
yep 1-1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 27, 2010, 05:06:09 PM
Gutted. Bye bye.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 27, 2010, 05:08:42 PM
I know everyone said Arsenal had an easy run in but they had absolutely no margin for error, like Liverpool last year when they ran out of luck when they drew 4-4 with Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiffler on March 27, 2010, 05:09:25 PM
Hopefully Utd will fall a cropper this evening.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 27, 2010, 05:10:36 PM
Senderos
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on March 27, 2010, 05:16:01 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 27, 2010, 05:09:25 PM
Hopefully Utd will fall a cropper this evening.


Rooney and Rio out so it could happen.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 27, 2010, 05:18:42 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 27, 2010, 05:06:09 PM
Gutted. Bye bye.

If Bolton get something tonight then it's still a chance and a draw next week and the Goons are right back in it, not over yet..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stiffler on March 27, 2010, 05:21:50 PM
Quote from: orangeman on March 27, 2010, 05:16:01 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 27, 2010, 05:09:25 PM
Hopefully Utd will fall a cropper this evening.


Rooney and Rio out so it could happen.

rio not playing is a help to utd
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 27, 2010, 06:02:57 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 27, 2010, 05:18:42 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 27, 2010, 05:06:09 PM
Gutted. Bye bye.

If Bolton get something tonight then it's still a chance and a draw next week and the Goons are right back in it, not over yet..

Nah it's over. Almunia's a fcukin dick. Chelsea goal difference and Arsenal still to visit WHL etc, too much. Haven't felt this bad in yonks. Gonna hit bottle big time. Then there's fcukin Kerry.

Jaysus.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 27, 2010, 06:05:02 PM
Shane, don't forget Barcelona in midweek as well ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 27, 2010, 07:20:39 PM
Barca rest Messi today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 27, 2010, 07:30:23 PM
Why on earth did the wee russian not start? Was he injured? Baffling decision to me if he wasnt injured.

Shit series of results today - especially with the feckin spuds getting 4th handed to them on a silver platter.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on March 27, 2010, 11:26:40 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 27, 2010, 06:02:57 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 27, 2010, 05:18:42 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 27, 2010, 05:06:09 PM
Gutted. Bye bye.

If Bolton get something tonight then it's still a chance and a draw next week and the Goons are right back in it, not over yet..

Nah it's over. Almunia's a fcukin dick. Chelsea goal difference and Arsenal still to visit WHL etc, too much. Haven't felt this bad in yonks. Gonna hit bottle big time. Then there's fcukin Kerry.

Jaysus.

Hope your a bit happier now O'Niell !!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on March 27, 2010, 11:32:55 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 27, 2010, 06:02:57 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 27, 2010, 05:18:42 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 27, 2010, 05:06:09 PM
Gutted. Bye bye.

If Bolton get something tonight then it's still a chance and a draw next week and the Goons are right back in it, not over yet..

Nah it's over. Almunia's a fcukin dick. Chelsea goal difference and Arsenal still to visit WHL etc, too much. Haven't felt this bad in yonks. Gonna hit bottle big time. Then there's fcukin Kerry.

Jaysus.

In fairness shane  the arse never looked like they were good enough to win the league, it is a two horse race now and that will be saome game next week, chelsea are flying as are united but 7-1 against Villa is an amazing result.

prediction, Chelsea 2- United 1.  :(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 27, 2010, 11:52:38 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 27, 2010, 05:18:42 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 27, 2010, 05:06:09 PM
Gutted. Bye bye.

If Bolton get something tonight then it's still a chance and a draw next week and the Goons are right back in it, not over yet..

The delusion is strong with this one.......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on March 28, 2010, 02:01:05 AM
Watched the match online this evening and to say I was gutted would be a masive understatement.

Went for a hour long drive to try to get my head around the result!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 28, 2010, 12:19:27 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on March 28, 2010, 02:01:05 AM
Watched the match online this evening and to say I was gutted would be a masive understatement.

Went for a hour long drive to try to get my head around the result!!!!

Same here. Found it hard to accept.

Stew, they really could've won this title. Next weekend, if Arsenal had won yesterday, was going to be the time to strike with Utd and Chelsea kicking lumps outta each other and Arsenal home to Wolves.

What's the betting the Gunners fall apart now although a performance against Barca on Wed can change the face of the season yet again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on March 28, 2010, 03:50:26 PM
Arsenal will not fall apart, they are too good to fall apart, i think they will play well against barca but i do question why they farmed that stud  Wilsherebout to bolton, he is some player and should be starting for Arsenal.

Arsenal are a great keeper away from winning the title,they will never get it done with the balloon they have now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 28, 2010, 11:05:36 PM
Can't get that Almunia fcuker out of my head.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Paul Mc Graths Da on March 29, 2010, 01:19:43 AM
IMO Wenger's a bigger problem than Almunia at the business of a season! His inability to control his emotions puts pressure on his young team.  If there's one thing to be said about that lowlife sc**bag Ferguson, it's that he knows how to take the pressure of his team!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 31, 2010, 07:51:31 PM
under pressure
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 31, 2010, 07:52:45 PM
Quote from: gerry on March 31, 2010, 07:51:31 PM
under pressure

Playing like Jedward
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 31, 2010, 07:55:34 PM
Lucky for Arsenal that Ibra still thinks HE'S the best player in the world. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 31, 2010, 08:00:14 PM
Almunia better than Pele?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: glens73 on March 31, 2010, 08:00:45 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 28, 2010, 11:05:36 PM
Can't get that Almunia fcuker out of my head.

Almunia's keeping Arsenal in the tie
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 31, 2010, 08:01:11 PM
feck should be 2 or 3 down at this stage with 5 shots on target
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2010, 08:02:15 PM
get the heap on Barca?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: glens73 on March 31, 2010, 08:03:17 PM
Don't think I've seen as one sided a game (so far) at this level before!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: clarshack on March 31, 2010, 08:06:59 PM
could be a night where barca dont take their chances and arsenal fluke a late goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 31, 2010, 08:09:02 PM
what sort of pressure will the gunners be on next week when we get this pressure at home
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 08:13:23 PM
Jaysus, Barca totally owned Arsenal for 20 mins there. Never before experienced that under Wenger. Didn't know Barca worked so hard off the ball. They'll tire.....gulp.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Sawyer on March 31, 2010, 08:13:39 PM
Quote from: clarshack on March 31, 2010, 08:06:59 PM
could be a night where barca dont take their chances and arsenal fluke a late goal.

God I hope so. If ths was a boxng matc it would have been stopped early on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 31, 2010, 08:14:20 PM
 With Arshavin now of, things not looking any better
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 31, 2010, 08:22:22 PM
jasus
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 31, 2010, 08:23:54 PM
Barcelona work like dogs, the fact that they pass the ball so well makes them as close to the perfect team as you will get. Barca may regret all those missed early chances though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 31, 2010, 08:29:37 PM
things getting worst
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 08:32:13 PM
Phew! Glad to hear the long whistle.

1. Arshavin off
2. Gallas off
3. Cesc banned from away leg.
4. Outplayed
5. 0-0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 08:35:04 PM
I wonder was that booking hanging over Cesc. Might play like a lion this half.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on March 31, 2010, 08:38:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 08:35:04 PM
I wonder was that booking hanging over Cesc. Might play like a lion this half.

Hes not Roy Keane  :P
Barca even money to win,get the house on them
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 08:43:37 PM
Rosicky - Eduardo - Walcott -Campbell left on bench.

Get Wally on at 67 mins. Point him in the right direction and take Puyol to the cleaners.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 08:44:58 PM
http://audioboo.fm/boos/111619-arsenal-0-0-bcn-half-time
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Catch the high ball on March 31, 2010, 08:48:18 PM
FFS
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 31, 2010, 08:48:27 PM
feck
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 08:49:31 PM
Feckin Manuel.

Just go for it now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 31, 2010, 08:55:54 PM
should have been 1 each there
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 31, 2010, 08:58:38 PM
Quote from: ildanach on March 31, 2010, 08:55:54 PM
should have been 1 each there

Bentner needs 6 more chances before he'll score. Not sure if there is enough time left.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 31, 2010, 09:01:46 PM
In fainess lads they are some fecking team
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on March 31, 2010, 09:05:07 PM
In a different class...as they were last May :-\
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 31, 2010, 09:05:47 PM
Best team I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 31, 2010, 09:06:12 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on March 31, 2010, 09:05:07 PM
In a different class...as they were last May :-\

I actually think they are better than last year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 09:07:57 PM
And Iniesta's not there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 31, 2010, 09:12:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 08:43:37 PM
Rosicky - Eduardo - Walcott -Campbell left on bench.

Get Wally on at 67 mins. Point him in the right direction and take Puyol to the cleaners.

spot on
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 31, 2010, 09:12:56 PM
Quote from: gerry on March 31, 2010, 09:12:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 08:43:37 PM
Rosicky - Eduardo - Walcott -Campbell left on bench.

Get Wally on at 67 mins. Point him in the right direction and take Puyol to the cleaners.

spot on

Uncanny, any other predictions? Quickly now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 31, 2010, 09:14:01 PM
goal from a free kick
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 31, 2010, 09:15:54 PM
keep the pressure on now. 2-2 at least it will be respectable
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 31, 2010, 09:18:09 PM
cheater coming on
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 31, 2010, 09:19:41 PM
king henry around the emirates
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 31, 2010, 09:22:06 PM
Enjoying this even more than Parus 2006 ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 09:23:33 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 31, 2010, 09:12:56 PM
Quote from: gerry on March 31, 2010, 09:12:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 08:43:37 PM
Rosicky - Eduardo - Walcott -Campbell left on bench.

Get Wally on at 67 mins. Point him in the right direction and take Puyol to the cleaners.

spot on

Uncanny, any other predictions? Quickly now.

I'm gonna get another Bavaria on 88 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 31, 2010, 09:26:18 PM
come on
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 31, 2010, 09:26:31 PM
draw all over it
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 31, 2010, 09:27:18 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on March 31, 2010, 09:22:06 PM
Enjoying this even more than Parus 2006 ;D

Glad to oblige.

2-2
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 31, 2010, 09:28:07 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on March 31, 2010, 09:22:06 PM
Enjoying this even more than Parus 2006 ;D
can you type something else quick! i think we can get a third
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 31, 2010, 09:28:44 PM
Puyol is a tool. Never rated him, even Healy scored a hat trick against him at Windsor Park >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Celt_Man on March 31, 2010, 09:29:29 PM
Some peno... a definite one too - never mind Haughton on RTÉ
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on March 31, 2010, 09:30:06 PM
Some come back :o I still doubt if Arsenal will be in the semi but I hope they are!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 31, 2010, 09:31:18 PM
Quote from: new devil on March 31, 2010, 08:38:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 08:35:04 PM
I wonder was that booking hanging over Cesc. Might play like a lion this half.

Hes not Roy Keane  :P
Barca even money to win,get the house on them

house for sale then
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 31, 2010, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: gerry on March 31, 2010, 09:31:18 PM
Quote from: new devil on March 31, 2010, 08:38:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 08:35:04 PM
I wonder was that booking hanging over Cesc. Might play like a lion this half.

Hes not Roy Keane  :P
Barca even money to win,get the house on them

house for sell then

A banker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Bensars on March 31, 2010, 09:32:51 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on March 31, 2010, 09:28:44 PM
Puyol is a tool. Never rated him, even Healy scored a hat trick against him at Windsor Park >:(

LOL   wise up man. youre obviously on the wind up. Great player.

If your beloved celtic were to sign him in the morning Poyntzpass would need a lorry load of tissues delivered.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on March 31, 2010, 09:34:10 PM
Quote from: gerry on March 31, 2010, 09:31:18 PM
Quote from: new devil on March 31, 2010, 08:38:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 08:35:04 PM
I wonder was that booking hanging over Cesc. Might play like a lion this half.

Hes not Roy Keane  :P
Barca even money to win,get the house on them

house for sale then

Thankfully i don't have an online account  :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on March 31, 2010, 09:36:22 PM
Quote from: Celt_Man on March 31, 2010, 09:29:29 PM
Some peno... a definite one too - never mind Haughton on RTÉ

Did Haughton seriously think it was not a pen? I'm watching it on ITV.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 31, 2010, 09:36:33 PM
Never mind, job will be finished at Nou Camp.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggysego on March 31, 2010, 09:37:43 PM
Quote from: Bensars on March 31, 2010, 09:32:51 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on March 31, 2010, 09:28:44 PM
Puyol is a tool. Never rated him, even Healy scored a hat trick against him at Windsor Park >:(

LOL   wise up man. youre obviously on the wind up. Great player.

If your beloved celtic were to sign him in the morning Poyntzpass would need a lorry load of tissues delivered.

:D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 31, 2010, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on March 31, 2010, 09:36:33 PM
Never mind, job will be finished at Nou Camp.  ;D

That's in Europe Tony.... way beyond Brighton.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 31, 2010, 09:41:38 PM
Great to see an ex North London superstar back for this game...Edgar Davids analysing on ITV ;D,
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 09:41:53 PM
Not really sure what happened there.

Arsenal were destroyed - injuries, suspensions - but 2-2.

That's Walcott at the World Cup btw.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Lady GAA GAA on March 31, 2010, 09:43:15 PM
Not a penalty imo. Fair play to the Gunners for keeping at it, but they were ridiculously lucky. A real freak result there in my eyes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 31, 2010, 09:43:36 PM
I wouldn't underestimate the loss that Puyol and Pique will be next week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 09:45:16 PM
http://audioboo.fm/boos/111654-arsenal-2-2-barcelona-full-time
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: clarshack on March 31, 2010, 09:45:21 PM
arsenal were completely outclassed tonight but somehow got a bit of luck. barca would have settled for 2-2 before the game though. even though they are missing puyol and pique for the 2nd leg were barca not missing a few 1st choice defenders against utd in last year's final and things turned out ok?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 31, 2010, 09:46:19 PM
No peno but at least it makes a game of it (for hopefully a half anyway).

Wouldn't be optimistic but sometimes games can be very different, remember the World cup Play offs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Bensars on March 31, 2010, 09:46:38 PM
In real time definitley looked a penalty. With the benefit of replay it could be argued it wasnt. Not many referees wouldnt have gave it
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 31, 2010, 09:46:50 PM
Quote from: Lady GAA GAA on March 31, 2010, 09:43:15 PM
Not a penalty imo. Fair play to the Gunners for keeping at it, but they were ridiculously lucky. A real freak result there in my eyes.

Barca thought it was job done and went to sleep. Amazing that it finished level really. One of the most one-sided 2-2 draws you'll ever see.

Even without their centre-halves can't see anything but a Barcelona win next week. While their away form has been up and down this season their home form has been brilliant.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on March 31, 2010, 09:50:12 PM
I thought it was def a pen even on the replay ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on March 31, 2010, 09:51:14 PM
Dunphy and Giles some craic tonight
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on March 31, 2010, 09:51:45 PM
Arsenal are a team that eats up possession, to see them get led by the nose like that was incredible, Barcelona had something like 70% posession in the first half, and they were the away team.

Fair play to Arsenal though, they stuck at it and usually they capitulate in situations like this a la the united game last year but I thought they fought hard and incredibly got the draw.

Barca are light years ahead of everybody else on this form, they should have won this game by four at least and insted they give up two late and now have to put Arsenal away at home, they should do it but this result will baffle them, they are the best side in the world bar none.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on March 31, 2010, 09:59:06 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 09:45:16 PM
http://audioboo.fm/boos/111654-arsenal-2-2-barcelona-full-time

That guy sounds like a bit of a dick.

''Cesc f**king c***ts home the penalty''  :-\
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 31, 2010, 10:24:38 PM
How can it be argued that it wasn't a penalty??!! A clear goal scoring opportunity was stopped by Puyol who didn't get the ball.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 10:27:13 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 31, 2010, 09:59:06 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 09:45:16 PM
http://audioboo.fm/boos/111654-arsenal-2-2-barcelona-full-time

That guy sounds like a bit of a dick.

''Cesc f**king c***ts home the penalty''  :-\

Cos he says a bad word? He was voted Ireland's best sports-blogger at the weekend for the second year running.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 31, 2010, 10:30:43 PM
I think the kids are starting to grow, you could only be man shamed so many times before you eventually realise you have to fight back. Great character, who knows an early goal in Barca and the Goons might have a chance but it's Barca's UCL Title to lose...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Bensars on March 31, 2010, 10:36:11 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 31, 2010, 10:24:38 PM
How can it be argued that it wasn't a penalty??!! A clear goal scoring opportunity was stopped by Puyol who didn't get the ball.

All three analysts on RTE said it was no penalty. Claimed the ball had past him and it was fabergas who connected with him.

I thought it was a penalty at the time and after seeing it again, but it is one of those that could create debate depending on your viewpoint.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Lady GAA GAA on March 31, 2010, 10:37:43 PM
Would you fault Almunia for both goals, the first, or neither?

I think probably just the first. Have seen goals like the second get past great keepers like Reina on occasion.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Lady GAA GAA on March 31, 2010, 10:41:57 PM
Quote from: Bensars on March 31, 2010, 10:36:11 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 31, 2010, 10:24:38 PM
How can it be argued that it wasn't a penalty??!! A clear goal scoring opportunity was stopped by Puyol who didn't get the ball.

All three analysts on RTE said it was no penalty. Claimed the ball had past him and it was fabergas who connected with him.

I thought it was a penalty at the time and after seeing it again, but it is one of those that could create debate depending on your viewpoint.

I thought the ball was past Cesc. Id give more weight to this factor than the other factor (ie the contact). However i still think that the contact side of things is negligible in any case; no penalty.

Totally lost the run of myself there and cant be bothered revising it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 31, 2010, 10:45:12 PM
Great game of football tonight but one of the most onesided 2-2 draws i ever seen :o

but like i said before it's will be won & lost in the camp nou
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on March 31, 2010, 10:48:13 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on March 31, 2010, 09:51:14 PM
Dunphy and Giles some craic tonight

Why what where they saying?  Would have liked to hear their views actually.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 31, 2010, 10:50:47 PM
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on March 31, 2010, 10:48:13 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on March 31, 2010, 09:51:14 PM
Dunphy and Giles some craic tonight

Why what where they saying?  Would have liked to hear their views actually.

Basically said Arsenal were outplayed and were poxed to get a draw out of it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on March 31, 2010, 10:52:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 10:27:13 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 31, 2010, 09:59:06 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 09:45:16 PM
http://audioboo.fm/boos/111654-arsenal-2-2-barcelona-full-time

That guy sounds like a bit of a dick.

''Cesc f**king c***ts home the penalty''  :-\

Cos he says a bad word? He was voted Ireland's best sports-blogger at the weekend for the second year running.

Nah, it was more the silly emphasis he used, as if saying **** made him cool or something. I don't really get this, why would anyone want to listen to some fan's the hazy recollections immediately after a game? He doesn't even really try to give any analysis, just lots of 'emmms' and 'ehhs' as he tries to remember what happened and then a 'f**king c'mon you gonners' to finish. Whatever floats your boat I suppose.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 10:54:49 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 31, 2010, 10:52:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 10:27:13 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 31, 2010, 09:59:06 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2010, 09:45:16 PM
http://audioboo.fm/boos/111654-arsenal-2-2-barcelona-full-time

That guy sounds like a bit of a dick.

''Cesc f**king c***ts home the penalty''  :-\

Cos he says a bad word? He was voted Ireland's best sports-blogger at the weekend for the second year running.

Nah, it was more the silly emphasis he used, as if saying **** made him cool or something. I don't really get this, why would anyone want to listen to some fan's the hazy recollections immediately after a game? He doesn't even really try to give any analysis, just lots of 'emmms' and 'ehhs' as he tries to remember what happened and then a 'f**king c'mon you gonners' to finish. Whatever floats your boat I suppose.

Read his blogs and essays. Audioboo is a 2-3 min analysis outlet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 31, 2010, 10:58:27 PM
Quote from: Bensars on March 31, 2010, 10:36:11 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 31, 2010, 10:24:38 PM
How can it be argued that it wasn't a penalty??!! A clear goal scoring opportunity was stopped by Puyol who didn't get the ball.

All three analysts on RTE said it was no penalty. Claimed the ball had past him and it was fabergas who connected with him.

I thought it was a penalty at the time and after seeing it again, but it is one of those that could create debate depending on your viewpoint.

No way for me he's connecting with that if it isn't for Puyol!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC9r7NfdBuM
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on March 31, 2010, 11:20:49 PM
Broken leg for Fabregas? On BBC.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 31, 2010, 11:24:08 PM
Nothing online. :(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on March 31, 2010, 11:26:34 PM
No penalty and therefore no sending off.

Bad news about Fabregas if true.


I expect Barca to go through.


Commentators said at half time that it was 0-0 in an absolute rout for Barca.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 31, 2010, 11:47:26 PM
Giles was quite vehement that Arsenal have no 'moral courage'. Basically said they only started playing when they thought the fame was lost and when Barca had become complacent.

Daylight robbery it has to be said. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on March 31, 2010, 11:50:39 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on March 31, 2010, 11:24:08 PM
Nothing online. :(

Quote"I am not good," said Fabregas, who left Emirates Stadium on crutches. "We have to wait for tomorrow, but I hope I can wear the Arsenal shirt again this season.

"I fear the worst, which is that I have broken something. I do not think it is going to be good news, but still I hope there will be."

"When I took the penalty, I was quite strong, but after when I went to get the ball, I could not walk any more. It is the fibula. I think I put my leg between Puyol's when I was fouled, and kicked it."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/arsenal/article7083675.ece


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Declan on April 01, 2010, 08:52:04 AM
Great spectacle and a very enjoyable game. Barca destroyed them but took their foot of the pedal. Arsenal blessed to get a draw and it was never a penalty. Think Barca will win comfortably at home
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Overthebar! on April 01, 2010, 10:24:00 AM
Quote from: Declan on April 01, 2010, 08:52:04 AM
Great spectacle and a very enjoyable game. Barca destroyed them but took their foot of the pedal. Arsenal blessed to get a draw and it was never a penalty. Think Barca will win comfortably at home

how was it not a penalty? i am not sure if it warranted a red card but it was a clear cut penalty
can't see arsenal going through....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 01, 2010, 10:37:21 AM
Almunia has proven again that Goalkeeper is the worst position to play in, possibly the best 45mins of his career in the 1st half and he was quite possibly at fault (or at least could have done a lot better) for the 2 goals.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 01, 2010, 11:51:01 AM
Quote from: screenexile on March 31, 2010, 10:24:38 PM
How can it be argued that it wasn't a penalty??!! A clear goal scoring opportunity was stopped by Puyol who didn't get the ball.

That's the rule for a red card not a penalty.  The question is, was it a foul??  I don't think so.  Fabregas seeemd to make contact with Puyol rather than the other way round.  Strange game.  Arsenal were handed their arse on a plate for 60 mins yet scraped a draw.  Bit harsh to blame Almunia for the 2nd goal, sweet strike by Ibrahimovic.  3-0 Barca next week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Declan on April 01, 2010, 01:57:43 PM
Quotehow was it not a penalty

Because Fabregas kicked Puyol and then fell over
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on April 01, 2010, 02:00:22 PM
Quote from: Declan on April 01, 2010, 01:57:43 PM
Quotehow was it not a penalty

Because Fabregas kicked Puyol and then fell over
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(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47572000/jpg/_47572191_fabregasb466.jpg)


That's how it looked to me. Puyol got there to put his body in the way of the ball.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 01, 2010, 02:05:21 PM
Great game, thought it was one of the best matches I've ever seen. Barca were as good as you could inagine for the first 70 minutes but Arsenal showed great courage to make it an exciting finish. Didn't think it was a penalty it makes a match of the 2nd leg. Fabregas looks like he's out for the season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: guevara on April 01, 2010, 02:13:25 PM
In my opinion it was a clear cut penalty. Puyol knew exactly what he was doing & instead of trying to play the ball he deliberately tried to prevent Fabregas scoring.
Barca destroyed Arsenal in the first 40 mins but showed little end product for such domination.
Almunia was sensational but ultimately he cost Arsenal another goal in a rush of blood moment.
Wenger seems to persist with guys everyone else writes off & although he is fabulous manager I think guys like Almunia, Senderos, Bendtner & Jeffers wouldnt have got near other teams & ultimately he is too loyal.

Both goals were Song's fault as he failed to mark Ibrahimovich & allowed him to make the same run twice & score.
Campbell should have been brought on for Gallas & I think the goals may have been prevented.

The only way Arsenal were ever going to get back into the game was by pegging back the Barca full backs & when both were attacked by Nasri & Walcott Barca collapsed!
Bendtner isnt a good enough finisher & wasted numerous chances & ultimately these misses may cost Wenger dear.
In the Nou Camp Wenger needs to be brave & go with an attacking team because as Barca have shown if you invite them on they will cut through you at will.
The only way to beat them is attack just as much as they do & go toe to toe with them. They are poor defensively & Arsenal proved this soft underbelly once they had nothing to lose & finally started playing the brilliant attacking football they are capable of
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GBXII on April 01, 2010, 02:27:01 PM
It was a clear penalty and obvious what Puyol was doing. He knew he couldn't get to the ball before Fabregas so he put his body right in front of where Fabregas was swinging. Clumsy challenge which deserved a penalty but a red is very harsh. Sometimes I wonder if Ray Houghton has actually played football before...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 01, 2010, 03:51:07 PM
Quote from: GBXII on April 01, 2010, 02:27:01 PM
It was a clear penalty and obvious what Puyol was doing. He knew he couldn't get to the ball before Fabregas so he put his body right in front of where Fabregas was swinging. Clumsy challenge which deserved a penalty but a red is very harsh. Sometimes I wonder if Ray Houghton has actually played football before...
What you describe is called obstruction. The physical contact was made by Fabregas not by Puyol. Even if Puyol, as you claim, deliberately placed himself in the line of fire it is not a penalty, it is an indirect free kick, even if the infringement happens in the box.
The ref appears to have given a penalty for what he though was a deliberate foul, hence the red card.

Anyway imo, it was typical piece of excellent defending by Puyol which when viewed from another angle (the refs) looked very illegal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 01, 2010, 04:16:48 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 01, 2010, 03:51:07 PM
Quote from: GBXII on April 01, 2010, 02:27:01 PM
It was a clear penalty and obvious what Puyol was doing. He knew he couldn't get to the ball before Fabregas so he put his body right in front of where Fabregas was swinging. Clumsy challenge which deserved a penalty but a red is very harsh. Sometimes I wonder if Ray Houghton has actually played football before...
What you describe is called obstruction. The physical contact was made by Fabregas not by Puyol. Even if Puyol, as you claim, deliberately placed himself in the line of fire it is not a penalty, it is an indirect free kick, even if the infringement happens in the box.
The ref appears to have given a penalty for what he though was a deliberate foul, hence the red card.

Anyway imo, it was typical piece of excellent defending by Puyol which when viewed from another angle (the refs) looked very illegal.

Puyol hooked him. Great in hurling, not so sure about soccer.

Also if Cesc's leg is broken it was quite an achievement to score a penalty with it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 01, 2010, 04:54:01 PM
It's a peno in my opinion. Fabregas starts to swing his leg. Puyol walks in front of him as he's swinging at the ball and blocks his swing. You can't do that.

If it happened out the field (as it often does where the man trying to play the ball kicks a lad coming in from the side) it's a free kick 99/100.

No different in the box. If Puyol was making an attempt to play the ball instead of just blocking Fabregas' swing ,then it probably wouldn't be a peno.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 01, 2010, 05:10:43 PM
Broken Leg, out for the season, hope the kid makes the World Cup.

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6069251,00.html (http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6069251,00.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 01, 2010, 05:12:35 PM
Feck it anyway, slim hopes of EPL gone and even slimmer hopes of UCL gone as well. Still a season of promise and the Gooners now need to kick on and heed the lessons of Liverpool from last year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 01, 2010, 05:17:57 PM
Can't understand why Wenger did not buy a centre half in January (lack of decent one perhaps?). He clearly had no confidence in Campbell/Silvestre to do a job last night - which is fair enough, but if Arsenal had have strengthened in a couple of key positions rather than rely on kids/old pros they could have had some silverware. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 01, 2010, 05:18:32 PM
If Fabregas had control of the ball you might have a case for an indirect free kick
The Catalan maestro Puyol, is perfectly entitled to be in that position.

The second replay at 36 seconds shows beyond doubt that the ball was anybodies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJizvW9zdow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJizvW9zdow)

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on April 01, 2010, 06:03:24 PM
Dunno if it has been mentioned, but f**k Henry is finished. He makes Dirk Kuyt look quite pacey.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on April 01, 2010, 06:35:42 PM
Billy Gallas and Arshavin both out for at least 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: guevara on April 02, 2010, 08:48:04 AM
Henry has made the same mistake  Flamini, Hleb, Reyes, Adebayor, Toure & Edu made in that the grass isnt always greener on the other side.
Yes Henry won the Champions League with Barca but at Arsenal Thierry was their main man. He gave that up to become a bit part player like the rest of the guys named.
How many of the players that Wenger lets go honestly better themselves??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 02, 2010, 09:41:42 AM
Quote from: GBXII on April 01, 2010, 02:27:01 PM
It was a clear penalty and obvious what Puyol was doing. He knew he couldn't get to the ball before Fabregas so he put his body right in front of where Fabregas was swinging. Clumsy challenge which deserved a penalty but a red is very harsh. Sometimes I wonder if Ray Houghton has actually played football before...

Dunno...is getting your body between your opponent and the ball a foul...for me no. :-\
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on April 02, 2010, 09:46:12 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 01, 2010, 05:12:35 PM
Feck it anyway, slim hopes of EPL gone and even slimmer hopes of UCL gone as well. Still a season of promise and the Gooners now need to kick on and heed the lessons of Liverpool from last year.

A season of promise?  If anything, Arsenal have gone backwards.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2010, 11:45:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqZngcYrSEA&feature=related - the pen
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 02, 2010, 12:00:51 PM
QuoteA season of promise?  If anything, Arsenal have gone backwards.

How do work you that out? Still not out of the league and will probably finish 2nd all without RVP and long stretches with Fab, the new Michael Laudrup and Billy Gallas..where as last season they were a poor 4th.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 02, 2010, 12:49:31 PM
The point is considering the injuries  they actually have progressed in the league which means the squad is getting stronger which is essence is an example of a team moving forward and certainly not backwards.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 02, 2010, 12:55:41 PM
Quote from: guevara on April 02, 2010, 08:48:04 AM

How many of the players that Wenger lets go honestly better themselves??
Not Henry ;D

That Nasri looks a damn good player and a good buy for £12m
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2010, 10:20:16 PM
Another angle of the pen - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYIzVOrkhRg&playnext_from=TL&videos=pJT6E-5YgYk&feature=sub

Pat Rice playing tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 09:07:26 AM
So, who are we supporting today again? Chelsea, Utd or the draw? A win for one and an Arsenal win leaves the Gunners also in the mix, or does it? I don't know what to do so will open a bottle of ether and boo everyone.

Wolves in good form too. Can see Wenger playing the likes of Eduardo and Silvestre with the bodies still bruised from Wed night.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 03, 2010, 09:27:14 AM
Can both lose?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on April 03, 2010, 11:34:16 AM
Having my first pint in the blackstock
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 03, 2010, 12:01:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 03, 2010, 09:27:14 AM
Can both lose?

If we can get the Financial Regulator to appoint Administrators maybe. Sean Quinn has a couple he can do without.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 01:53:00 PM
Quote from: gerry on April 03, 2010, 11:34:16 AM
Having my first pint in the blackstock

Knock on the windows in that place at any time of the night (from 1am-7am) and you'll still get in. Watch out for the young pickpockets.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 02:22:18 PM
    *  01 Almunia
    * 03 Sagna
    * 05 Vermaelen
    * 18 Silvestre
    * 27 Eboue
    * 31 Campbell
    * 07 Rosicky
    * 14 Walcott
    * 15 Denilson
    * 17 Song Billong
    * 09 Eduardo
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 02:24:54 PM
Substitutes

    * 21 Fabianski,
    * 22 Clichy,
    * 37 Eastmond,
    * 02 Diaby,
    * 08 Nasri,
    * 12 Vela,
    * 52 Bendtner
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 03:11:52 PM
Walcott's confidence through the roof. Running at Wolves a la a young Ryan Giggs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 03:15:21 PM
Jaysus Eduardo is shot to pieces. Clear sight of goal and embarrassingly screws it wide. Walcott hammering them down the right.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 03:16:56 PM
Bad miss (save) from Sagna after another Wally blitz.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 03:27:43 PM
Arsenal missing a cool head up front. Plenty of crosses, nobody even close to getting on the end of them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 03:51:17 PM
0-0 at HT. A bit like the Barca game in reverse. Wolves came into it a bit in the last 10. Terrible through ball from Eboue in injury time - Arsenal were steaming through the middle unmarked.

You'd like to think Nasri, Bendtner and Diaby would make a difference in the second half. Eduardo non-existent and doesn't really want the ball.

Rosicky and Walcott running the show.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 04:17:54 PM
Walcott acting the balax this half. Normal service resumed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 04:26:18 PM
Bender on for Eboue 64 mins. Getting nervy now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 04:27:32 PM
Wolves down to 10. Red for Henry for foul on Rosicky.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 04:33:17 PM
Nasri on for Song. 71 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 04:42:10 PM
Vela on for Eduardo. 80 mins.

10 mins of season left.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 04:46:17 PM
85 mins. 9 Wolves players in their box.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 04:49:55 PM
88 mins....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 04:50:45 PM
89 mins....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 04:51:20 PM
5 mins to be added on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 04:52:54 PM
91 mins...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 04:54:18 PM
93 mins. Heads shaking.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 04:56:00 PM
BENTDNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 03, 2010, 04:56:40 PM
THE GREAT DANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 04:58:05 PM
The Bender on 94 mins from Walcott's cross wins it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 03, 2010, 05:00:03 PM
Still in there but that was very harsh on Wolves who defended very well and worked their bollixes off.

Some spirit in the young goons all the same.

Nasri was the catalyst when he came on.


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 05:06:28 PM
We saw all 4 seasons in Walcott there. First half he tortured them. Second half he was doing his Iain Dowie impression again. That's some amount of late winners.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on April 03, 2010, 05:10:48 PM
My Sopcast went down with about 2 minutes left.
Missed the goal and it was Rocket Nose Thompson on Sky whose roar told me that Big Rodney Trotter does the business.
YEEHAWW!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 05:13:10 PM
Barca must be quaking in their boots with Bender on that form.

Only for that stupid Almunia error last week, they'd be second, 1 behind Chelsea.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on April 03, 2010, 05:31:07 PM
well arsenal have a great chance to finish 2nd after todays results but will that even matter?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on April 03, 2010, 05:47:55 PM
Gunners took their time to win on my first time here. Time for more pints i guess.

Ps give me croker and the big tree/quinns any day
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 07:24:54 PM
Barca moreorless full strength at the min v Bilbao. Just Xavi on the bench.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on April 03, 2010, 07:37:17 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 07:24:54 PM
Barca moreorless full strength at the min v Bilbao. Just Xavi on the bench.

I would say only 3 of that 11 will be playing against Arsenal, maybe Abidal or Chygrynski to play in central defence with Milito.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 07:50:37 PM
They'll start Valdes, Maxwell, Messi, Busquets and there's a good shout for Toure, Abidal or Chygrynskiy. Add to that Puyol and Pique playing today, you'll have probably only have Jeffren not involved.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on April 03, 2010, 07:54:27 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 07:50:37 PM
They'll start Valdes, Maxwell, Messi, Busquets and there's a good shout for Toure, Abidal or Chygrynskiy. Add to that Puyol and Pique playing today, you'll have probably only have Jeffren not involved.

Probably only one of that three.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 08:18:06 PM
2-0 Barca. Xavi on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 08:24:59 PM
3-0 Barca. Frighteningly easy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2010, 08:27:24 PM
4-0. Messi.

Bilbao were 2 pts off 4th too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on April 03, 2010, 10:11:50 PM
Ibrahimovic out of game on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: clarshack on April 03, 2010, 11:25:45 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 03, 2010, 10:11:50 PM
Ibrahimovic out of game on Tuesday.

what happened him?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on April 03, 2010, 11:37:42 PM
Quote from: clarshack on April 03, 2010, 11:25:45 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 03, 2010, 10:11:50 PM
Ibrahimovic out of game on Tuesday.

what happened him?

Dunno, heard on Sky Sports News he was out. He didn't feature at all tonight so must have been at training.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on April 04, 2010, 01:46:38 AM
Have to say Eduardo looks a complete donkey. The second coming of Francis Jeffers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on April 04, 2010, 09:34:41 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on April 04, 2010, 01:46:38 AM
Have to say Eduardo looks a complete donkey. The second coming of Francis Jeffers.

Before the Brummie injury he was potentially world class. We spent a yesr or so waiting for his return thinkig it'll be like a new signing, And he's been absolute S%%%E
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on April 04, 2010, 08:39:19 PM
Just finishing of my weekend at the gunners with a pint of stout in the 12 pins. Have to say why the supporters club have to go to the black?? Pub or what ever it called beats me as the auld triangle and this one loads better but i guess cause they all are DUP supporters answers the question.

Convent garden was good today and my son loved it with all the entertainment in it. Thanks for the heads up earlier, we even saw the the guy with the chainsaw that was posted on here earlier.

toured about and ended up at b'ham palace. We went inside and asked your women  for country back, for what it was worth.

Overall a good weekend esp for my son, next year a home game against spurs is on the agenda.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 05, 2010, 06:04:47 PM
So Arsenal have no one to tog out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on April 05, 2010, 06:10:45 PM
Bookies think it will be 2-0 barca about right i think
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 06, 2010, 08:05:12 PM
Game on. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 06, 2010, 08:07:00 PM
Messy goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 06, 2010, 08:08:58 PM
Told you.

If scores stays this way do Barcelona go through?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 06, 2010, 08:10:03 PM
Barca 2 away goals Arsenal 1 away goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on April 06, 2010, 08:10:36 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 06, 2010, 08:08:58 PM
Told you.

If scores stays this way do Barcelona go through?

That's a 10/4
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 06, 2010, 08:16:14 PM
Arsenal been ridden by the ref.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 06, 2010, 08:20:30 PM
Players from both teams chancing their arm because the ref hasn't a clue what is or isn't a foul.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: omagh_gael on April 06, 2010, 08:21:42 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 06, 2010, 08:16:14 PM
Arsenal been ridden by the ref.

Unreal...he's creaking under the crowds pressure!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: omagh_gael on April 06, 2010, 08:22:58 PM
Messi 2 Gooners 1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 06, 2010, 08:24:00 PM
Best player in the World....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: omagh_gael on April 06, 2010, 08:27:29 PM
What a goal!!!

Messi 3 Gooners 1

He's so clinical you'd put your house on him nearly every time he's a clear shot in the box!

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on April 06, 2010, 08:27:48 PM
f**k me. What a player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on April 06, 2010, 08:28:37 PM
The man is Magic! Unreal!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 06, 2010, 08:28:57 PM
It's all Bendtner's fault......for annoying him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 06, 2010, 08:29:55 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on April 06, 2010, 08:28:37 PM
The man is Magic! Unreal!

Yeah but Rooney is better ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: omagh_gael on April 06, 2010, 08:30:49 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 06, 2010, 08:29:17 PM
Should have had a 4th. Useless baxtard.

He wouldn't make the Cliftonville reserves 1st XI ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on April 06, 2010, 08:32:51 PM
If Andy Gray calls him "the little man" again I'm gonna throw my remote through the TV
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on April 06, 2010, 08:34:40 PM
Andy Gray waited to Barca equalised then said "I knew both teams would score in both legs.

Charlie Uniform November Tango.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: glens73 on April 06, 2010, 08:36:49 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 06, 2010, 08:34:40 PM
Andy Gray waited to Barca equalised then said "I knew both teams would score in both legs.

Charlie Uniform November Tango.

To be fair to the hun, he said that in Super Duper Sunday just gone
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: omagh_gael on April 06, 2010, 08:39:16 PM
It's also on TV3 (to those who have it avaiable) for anyone who can't stand that p***k Grey.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on April 06, 2010, 08:42:24 PM
any good online links
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on April 06, 2010, 08:46:42 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on April 06, 2010, 08:42:24 PM
any good online links

x2
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 06, 2010, 08:51:30 PM
This might get messy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 06, 2010, 08:55:12 PM
the talk all week was about walcott, and about what what he was going to do. he shouldnt even be sharing a pitch with those barce players
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 06, 2010, 09:03:48 PM
Toure a weak link
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on April 06, 2010, 09:04:23 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 06, 2010, 08:51:30 PM
This might get messy.

At least you have a sense of humour :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 06, 2010, 09:08:57 PM
Bender's first touch is wonderful
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on April 06, 2010, 09:11:06 PM
ref is  barca 12th man tonight even though they do not need it
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 09:13:33 PM
Henry to come on & score the 4th?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 06, 2010, 09:14:38 PM
If Arsenal can sneak one Barca will be nervy. Throw on Eduardo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on April 06, 2010, 09:15:09 PM
FECK
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 06, 2010, 09:16:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 06, 2010, 09:08:57 PM
Bender's first touch is wonderful

Like the Eiffel Tower doing riverdance.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on April 06, 2010, 09:16:39 PM
unlucky should have finshed it though
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Schkite on April 06, 2010, 09:16:57 PM
Quote from: gerry on April 06, 2010, 09:11:06 PM
ref is  barca 12th man tonight even though they do not need it

Aye, that yellow Denilson got was a joke, just because Messi went to ground even though the ball was won cleanly.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on April 06, 2010, 09:20:29 PM
[quote\]

If Arsenal can sneak one Barca will be nervy. Throw on Eduardo.
[/quote]

Feck me, sure Eduardo is worse than bentner.

MakeS me laugh all over again bentner saying he would be the best striker in the world.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 06, 2010, 09:21:26 PM
When's Almunia's circus moment happening?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 06, 2010, 09:24:05 PM
Big Sol up front surely. Tell him to lep about like a hoor.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 09:25:58 PM
just like the 1st leg barca has eased off!

Arsenal allowed more of the ball now & maybe they will nick another goal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Schkite on April 06, 2010, 09:30:01 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 09:25:58 PM
just like the 1st leg barca has eased off!

Arsenal allowed more of the ball now & maybe they will nick another goal?

If that happened Barca would just up a gear and score again, never in doubt.

There's your fourth, not too bad this lad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on April 06, 2010, 09:30:54 PM
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on April 06, 2010, 09:31:36 PM
Arsenal are very poor tonight :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: FermGael on April 06, 2010, 09:32:09 PM
Tony you would think that you would learn!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: RedandGreenSniper on April 06, 2010, 09:33:18 PM
How can anyone who follows football use this moment to gloat on Arsenal losing and ignore the absolute brilliance we are witnessing? Sad.

Messi - thank you. That was some privilege.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 06, 2010, 09:33:50 PM
Just a brilliant performer. You can't be disappointed losing to that. Unlike Utd, Arsenal can unlock Barca so not a disgrace.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 09:34:02 PM
Quote from: Schkite on April 06, 2010, 09:30:01 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 09:25:58 PM
just like the 1st leg barca has eased off!

Arsenal allowed more of the ball now & maybe they will nick another goal?

If that happened Barca would just up a gear and score again, never in doubt.

There's your fourth, not too bad this lad.

well that lad messi never eased off

one of the best displays i've seen from a player in a big game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on April 06, 2010, 09:35:52 PM
True to form Eduardo gets a free header from 6yrs out and puts it over the bar. Clown.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on April 06, 2010, 09:36:08 PM
I'm sure Barca would have appreciated a sterner task tonight ahead of their big clash with Real Madrid at the weekend.

Arsenal totally out of their depth at this level.

Ronaldo not fit to lace Messi's boots
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 09:37:59 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 06, 2010, 09:33:50 PM
Unlike Utd, Arsenal can unlock Barca so not a disgrace.

if my memory is correct united knocked out a messi barca in 2008 semi  ;)

& btw messi first goal v a English team was in last year final
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 09:41:35 PM
well the Gooners were outplayed & outclassed in both legs

but huge credit to Arsenal as they played there part in two classic champions league ties
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on April 06, 2010, 09:44:06 PM
No shame to get beaten by the best team in the world.

Arsenal were well short and did their best under the circumstances.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on April 06, 2010, 09:49:30 PM
Goons outclassed lasy year by Man Ure and this year by Barca, not up to competing at the latter stages of the Champions League. Great and all as Barca are I guarantee that they'll not outclass Inter the way they outclassed Aresenal, who along with Bordeaux were the weakest of the quarter finalists.

I only hope Bayern send Man Ure packing tomorrow night as well

I'm loving it ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Geoff Tipps on April 06, 2010, 09:51:10 PM
Martin Keown reckons the Argies will be a handful in the world cup with Messi,Tevez and ahem Alves bombing down the right  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 06, 2010, 09:51:32 PM
jose's inter wont lose 6-3 on aggregate that's for sure - or win 6-3 either. The group matches between the 2 were 0-0 at San siro and 2-0 at Nou Camp
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on April 06, 2010, 09:52:56 PM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on April 06, 2010, 09:51:10 PM
Martin Keown reckons the Argies will be a handful in the world cup with Messi,Tevez and ahem Alves bombing down the right  ;D

The same Alves that plays for Brazil?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Geoff Tipps on April 06, 2010, 09:54:58 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 06, 2010, 09:52:56 PM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on April 06, 2010, 09:51:10 PM
Martin Keown reckons the Argies will be a handful in the world cup with Messi,Tevez and ahem Alves bombing down the right  ;D

The same Alves that plays for Brazil?

I guess so!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 06, 2010, 09:56:45 PM
Quote from: orangeman on April 06, 2010, 09:44:06 PM
No shame to get beaten by the best team in the world.

And the best player in the World
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Declan on April 06, 2010, 10:02:30 PM
Barca a joy to watch and Messi is simply the best in the world and by a distance
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 10:04:27 PM
inter won't allow barca play like arse did

it will be a similar tie to the Chelsea v barca semi last year

but Barca will have puyol pique iniesta and ibrahimovic back & that will make them even stronger



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on April 06, 2010, 10:06:48 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on April 06, 2010, 09:56:45 PM
Quote from: orangeman on April 06, 2010, 09:44:06 PM
No shame to get beaten by the best team in the world.

And the best player in the World

Rooney transfered? ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 06, 2010, 10:09:18 PM
That kid Messi, he's a bit small not sure he has a future in the game...

Barca, you could watch then all night some work-rate, best team I have seen since the 94' Milan team.

What odds the Portuguese clown knocks them out with his brand of death by boredom football?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 06, 2010, 10:12:11 PM
It'll be interesting to see how Mourinho sets Inter up. Barca are simmering nicely. He'll be interested in that Arsenal did create openings tonight. Arshavin and Cesc could've made hay with the chances Clichy and Bendtner wasted. Utd couldn't get close to scoring against that Barca team who made them look like Dunmurry Rec; Arsenal unlocked them three times and showed how lazy the Catalans can get when comfortable - just can't see Inter getting close with the likes of Iniesta back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Mario on April 06, 2010, 10:18:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 06, 2010, 10:12:11 PM
It'll be interesting to see how Mourinho sets Inter up. Barca are simmering nicely. He'll be interested in that Arsenal did create openings tonight. Arshavin and Cesc could've made hay with the chances Clichy and Bendtner wasted. Utd couldn't get close to scoring against that Barca team who made them look like Dunmurry Rec; Arsenal unlocked them three times and showed how lazy the Catalans can get when comfortable - just can't see Inter getting close with the likes of Iniesta back.
Arshavin and Fabregas could have done what they did in the first leg, not an awful lot.

To be fair to united last year, barcelona took the lead against the run of play, ronaldo had 4 or 5 chances in the first 15min. Once they went behind it was very difficult. They also beat barcelona the year before.

Also iniesta is having a very bad season by his standards.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 06, 2010, 10:23:15 PM
Barca have moved on from last year, the little genius is a year old and Man United have gone backwards, it would be no contest only Chelsea of the English sides could give them a proper game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Shamrock Shore on April 06, 2010, 10:26:28 PM
QuoteRonaldo not fit to lace Messi's boots

Oh God, I agree with Tony Fearon!

Need to lie down.

But before I do I too would like to fall down at the altar of Messi.

Up there with the Gooch now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Minder on April 06, 2010, 10:35:43 PM
Yis are being abit unfair on Mourinho, all he does is win. Unlike Arsenal he sets his teams up not to concede a bagful of goals. I cant see Inter beating Barcelona but i cant imagine Inter defending like an Irish League team as Arsenal did tonight. Barca are better than last year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on April 06, 2010, 10:36:26 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 06, 2010, 10:23:15 PM
Barca have moved on from last year, the little genius is a year old and Man United have gone backwards, it would be no contest only Chelsea of the English sides could give them a proper game.

Jesus I thought he was older than that! He is very small though!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 06, 2010, 10:37:07 PM
On to Spurs next week with a good seven day rest. God, some comedown, from Barca to Spurs - like playing Kerry one week and Maghery reserves the next.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 10:39:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 06, 2010, 10:23:15 PM
Barca have moved on from last year, the little genius is a year old and Man United have gone backwards, it would be no contest only Chelsea of the English sides could give them a proper game.

have they Really?

They are currently level on points with Real Madrid unlike last year when they were walking the Spanish league beating Madrid 6-2 along the way

they also got knocked out of the Spanish cup & in the champions league this season Rubin Kazan beat them 1-0 in the camp nou & drew with them 0-0 at home to prove it was no fluke (barca won every cup they entered last year)

as for united they have gone back alittle but if they get over Bayern? they will have a great chance for replay of last years final unlike the mighty Chelsea who are OUT



   
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Paul Mc Graths Da on April 06, 2010, 10:39:52 PM
Only the tragically delued and clueless mank hoardes would ever suggest that ronaldo + rooney are comparible to Messi!  They're not in the same league.

Let's hope Bayern finish the job tomorrow!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: muppet on April 06, 2010, 10:42:07 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 06, 2010, 10:35:43 PM
Yis are being abit unfair on Mourinho, all he does is win. Unlike Arsenal he sets his teams up not to concede a bagful of goals. I cant see Inter beating Barcelona but i cant imagine Inter defending like an Irish League team as Arsenal did tonight. Barca are better than last year.

I'd to see how Mourinho would keep a clean sheet with Silvestre in the centre of his defense. He'd have to have Messi sweeping behind him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: T Fearon on April 06, 2010, 10:42:27 PM
SS,I, by coincidence, passed through LongfordTown  and Granard to-day on my way home from an Easter break. Obviously I have left my influence on your fair county ;D

Shane stop talking shite about Arsenal unlocking Barca..its another trophyless season at the Haemorrhoids Stadium ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: muppet on April 06, 2010, 10:43:51 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on April 06, 2010, 10:42:27 PM
SS,I, by coincidence, passed through LongfordTown  and Granard to-day on my way home from an Easter break. Obviously I have left my influence on your fair county ;D

Shane stop talking shite about Arsenal unlocking Barca..its another trophyless season at the Haemorrhoids Stadium ;D

Another spell in Castlerea?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 10:47:13 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 06, 2010, 10:42:07 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 06, 2010, 10:35:43 PM
Yis are being abit unfair on Mourinho, all he does is win. Unlike Arsenal he sets his teams up not to concede a bagful of goals. I cant see Inter beating Barcelona but i cant imagine Inter defending like an Irish League team as Arsenal did tonight. Barca are better than last year.

I'd to see how Mourinho would keep a clean sheet with Silvestre in the centre of his defense. He'd have to have Messi sweeping behind him.

i thought Silvestre was at fault for the first two goals
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 06, 2010, 10:48:19 PM
If you can't see how Barca have improved on last year, the clue is watch them when they don't have the ball, then you really shouldn't be passing comment on them.

When I look at Man U i see the end of a legacy when I look at Barca I see the start of a legacy....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on April 06, 2010, 10:52:08 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 10:39:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 06, 2010, 10:23:15 PM
Barca have moved on from last year, the little genius is a year old and Man United have gone backwards, it would be no contest only Chelsea of the English sides could give them a proper game.

have they Really?

They are currently level on points with Real Madrid unlike last year when they were walking the Spanish league beating Madrid 6-2 along the way

they also got knocked out of the Spanish cup & in the champions league this season Rubin Kazan beat them 1-0 in the camp nou & drew with them 0-0 at home to prove it was no fluke (barca won every cup they entered last year)

as for united they have gone back alittle but if they get over Bayern? they will have a great chance for replay of last years final unlike the mighty Chelsea who are OUT

Where do i start. Barca have lost one league game this season, they are really regressing in La Liga. Madrid are going great but having no Champions League football will benefit them (see Chelsea). Spanish Cup, no comment necessary, Madrid & Barca dont give a shite about it. Rubin Kazan? Are you taking the piss? Two group games where Barcelona were probably playing at 40% of what they are capable of. If Rubin are as good as you believe why are they now out of the UEFA Cup?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 10:58:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 06, 2010, 10:48:19 PM
If you can't see how Barca have improved on last year, the clue is watch them when they don't have the ball, then you really shouldn't be passing comment on them.

When I look at Man U i see the end of a legacy when I look at Barca I see the start of a legacy....

Barca have been playing that way for years! what you just noticed it when they play your team?

the united legacy was suppose to over when maureen took over chelsea  ::)


Barcelona in 2008/09 had a perfect season ! the best club team i have seen & how could they improve on a perfect season?



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Minder on April 06, 2010, 11:05:18 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 10:58:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 06, 2010, 10:48:19 PM
If you can't see how Barca have improved on last year, the clue is watch them when they don't have the ball, then you really shouldn't be passing comment on them.

When I look at Man U i see the end of a legacy when I look at Barca I see the start of a legacy....

Barca have been playing that way for years! what you just noticed it when they play your team?

the united legacy was suppose to over when maureen took over chelsea  ::)


Barcelona in 2008/09 had a perfect season ! the best club team i have seen & how could they improve on a perfect season?

More bollocks Ross4life, Barcelona never worked as hard without the ball under Rijkaard. They will always pass the ball well but when they work as hard as they do, well they are close to being unbeatable.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 06, 2010, 11:12:02 PM
No they haven't they've always shown a fondness for 4-3-3 but since Guardiola has been installed as first team coach 2 years ago their work rate off the ball and their fitmess levels have improved immensely and the speed at which they press with each player knowing his role and responsibility I have never seen in a Barca team.

By the way I don't just watch Barca when they play Arsenal but ever since I read Jimmy Burns book Barca A peoples passion they have always held my interest, if you ever get a chance it's a fantastic read.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 11:15:03 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 06, 2010, 11:05:18 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 10:58:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 06, 2010, 10:48:19 PM
If you can't see how Barca have improved on last year, the clue is watch them when they don't have the ball, then you really shouldn't be passing comment on them.

When I look at Man U i see the end of a legacy when I look at Barca I see the start of a legacy....

Barca have been playing that way for years! what you just noticed it when they play your team?

the united legacy was suppose to over when maureen took over chelsea  ::)


Barcelona in 2008/09 had a perfect season ! the best club team i have seen & how could they improve on a perfect season?

More bollocks Ross4life, Barcelona never worked as hard without the ball under Rijkaard. They will always pass the ball well but when they work as hard as they do, well they are close to being unbeatable.

bollocks my ass

i had the pleasure of watching Barca first hand in camp nou v Real betis under Rijkaard in 2007 & i was amazed the workrate of there players off the ball, & in the terms keeping possession there's no better team around

Messi didn't score that night but he was a joy to watch

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Minder on April 06, 2010, 11:22:44 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 11:15:03 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 06, 2010, 11:05:18 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 10:58:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 06, 2010, 10:48:19 PM
If you can't see how Barca have improved on last year, the clue is watch them when they don't have the ball, then you really shouldn't be passing comment on them.

When I look at Man U i see the end of a legacy when I look at Barca I see the start of a legacy....

Barca have been playing that way for years! what you just noticed it when they play your team?

the united legacy was suppose to over when maureen took over chelsea  ::)


Barcelona in 2008/09 had a perfect season ! the best club team i have seen & how could they improve on a perfect season?

More bollocks Ross4life, Barcelona never worked as hard without the ball under Rijkaard. They will always pass the ball well but when they work as hard as they do, well they are close to being unbeatable.

bollocks my ass

i had the pleasure of watching Barca first hand in camp nou v Real betis under Rijkaard in 2007 & i was amazed the workrate of there players off the ball, & in the terms keeping possession there's no better team around

Messi didn't score that night but he was a joy to watch

Irrelevant.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: imtommygunn on April 06, 2010, 11:28:31 PM
Barca's workrate was immense. They definitely didn't play like that before. Arsenal weren't getting a look-in.

Also man u have regressed significantly. Only for Rooney having a wonder season that would be much more obvious.

Arsenal were missing a shed load of players. They'd never have been close anyway but I'd have been very interested to see how Fabregas would have got on in that kind of game.

A few I know reckon arsenal will win the league based on their run in. Not sure they're right... Not enough up front - not good when you're relying on Bendtner!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 06, 2010, 11:30:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 06, 2010, 11:22:44 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 11:15:03 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 06, 2010, 11:05:18 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 10:58:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 06, 2010, 10:48:19 PM
If you can't see how Barca have improved on last year, the clue is watch them when they don't have the ball, then you really shouldn't be passing comment on them.

When I look at Man U i see the end of a legacy when I look at Barca I see the start of a legacy....

Barca have been playing that way for years! what you just noticed it when they play your team?

the united legacy was suppose to over when maureen took over chelsea  ::)


Barcelona in 2008/09 had a perfect season ! the best club team i have seen & how could they improve on a perfect season?

More bollocks Ross4life, Barcelona never worked as hard without the ball under Rijkaard. They will always pass the ball well but when they work as hard as they do, well they are close to being unbeatable.

bollocks my ass

i had the pleasure of watching Barca first hand in camp nou v Real betis under Rijkaard in 2007 & i was amazed the workrate of there players off the ball, & in the terms keeping possession there's no better team around

Messi didn't score that night but he was a joy to watch

Irrelevant.

He's getting as bad as Fearon in that regard
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 11:42:50 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 06, 2010, 11:22:44 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 11:15:03 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 06, 2010, 11:05:18 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 10:58:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 06, 2010, 10:48:19 PM
If you can't see how Barca have improved on last year, the clue is watch them when they don't have the ball, then you really shouldn't be passing comment on them.

When I look at Man U i see the end of a legacy when I look at Barca I see the start of a legacy....

Barca have been playing that way for years! what you just noticed it when they play your team?

the united legacy was suppose to over when maureen took over chelsea  ::)


Barcelona in 2008/09 had a perfect season ! the best club team i have seen & how could they improve on a perfect season?

More bollocks Ross4life, Barcelona never worked as hard without the ball under Rijkaard. They will always pass the ball well but when they work as hard as they do, well they are close to being unbeatable.

bollocks my ass

i had the pleasure of watching Barca first hand in camp nou v Real betis under Rijkaard in 2007 & i was amazed the workrate of there players off the ball, & in the terms keeping possession there's no better team around

Messi didn't score that night but he was a joy to watch

Irrelevant.

when united beat barca in 2008 they had 60% possession but united held on because they defended for their lives, same goes for Chelsea the year after & were very unlucky not to knock barca out

but i guess that's irrelevant also  ::)

let's judge barca after the inter games as both chelsea & united also looked great after beating arsenal in the Emirates Stadium

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnzKK0WcoI8&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Main Street on April 07, 2010, 01:42:07 AM
Quote from: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 11:15:03 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 06, 2010, 11:05:18 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 10:58:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 06, 2010, 10:48:19 PM
If you can't see how Barca have improved on last year, the clue is watch them when they don't have the ball, then you really shouldn't be passing comment on them.

When I look at Man U i see the end of a legacy when I look at Barca I see the start of a legacy....

Barca have been playing that way for years! what you just noticed it when they play your team?

the united legacy was suppose to over when maureen took over chelsea  ::)


Barcelona in 2008/09 had a perfect season ! the best club team i have seen & how could they improve on a perfect season?

More bollocks Ross4life, Barcelona never worked as hard without the ball under Rijkaard. They will always pass the ball well but when they work as hard as they do, well they are close to being unbeatable.

bollocks my ass

i had the pleasure of watching Barca first hand in camp nou v Real betis under Rijkaard in 2007 & i was amazed the workrate of there players off the ball, & in the terms keeping possession there's no better team around

Messi didn't score that night but he was a joy to watch

Yes Rijkaard had them buzzing. He had Barca playing 11 man football, fantastic workrate, defending/closing down all over the pitch and attacking as unit. Guardiola has just taken it to another level.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: T Fearon on April 07, 2010, 09:18:25 AM
Surely Wenger now needs to be examined seriously, both as a credible football manager and person? His tactics were naive in both games against Barca. Also the fact that he has spurned the likes of Real Madrid etc in recent years, in favour of staying at Arsenal must throw doubt on his ambition and self belief. After all he wouldn't last 5 years or anything like it at the Bernabeu without winning a trophy. Is he a chancer content to remain in the comfort zone of the Haemorrhoids where his job is secure regardless of the lack of silverware and where the home supporters sleep through most games?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 07, 2010, 09:21:50 AM
"lack of silverware and where the home supporters sleep through most games?"

Leave Spurs out of this.....how many managers have there been at sh*te fart lane since Wenger has been at Arsenal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 07, 2010, 09:27:19 AM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on April 06, 2010, 09:51:10 PM
Martin Keown reckons the Argies will be a handful in the world cup with Messi,Tevez and ahem Alves bombing down the right  ;D

Sent my mate that as soon as I heard it too!

What does the fact that his goal last year against United was his first against an English team? How many times prior to that had he played against them? Besides, if memory serves me correctly, he schooled Evra in both those legs. However, you can't attempt to compare the dying days of Rijkaard's final season with the glory Guardiola has presided over.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 07, 2010, 09:30:15 AM
Quote from: ross4life on April 06, 2010, 10:39:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 06, 2010, 10:23:15 PM
Barca have moved on from last year, the little genius is a year old and Man United have gone backwards, it would be no contest only Chelsea of the English sides could give them a proper game.

have they Really?

They are currently level on points with Real Madrid unlike last year when they were walking the Spanish league beating Madrid 6-2 along the way

they also got knocked out of the Spanish cup & in the champions league this season Rubin Kazan beat them 1-0 in the camp nou & drew with them 0-0 at home to prove it was no fluke (barca won every cup they entered last year)

as for united they have gone back alittle but if they get over Bayern? they will have a great chance for replay of last years final unlike the mighty Chelsea who are OUT

Level on points with Real. How does that have anything to do with Barca's performance? They've lost one league match all season and have more points than at this stage last year. I'd call that progress.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: bingobus on April 07, 2010, 10:13:10 AM
Jaysus Fearon, you're been far too obvious here and not getting the bites you're looking for as result.

Must try Harder.

Messi is a genius. The fact that Maradonna refuses to play him in a similar role as he played himself or as Messi plays for Barca could cost them a decent shot at a world cup. Too much ego.
Title: Fair judges
Post by: ONeill on April 08, 2010, 02:23:41 PM
Keys and Gray caught slating Walcott


Sky Sports presenters Richard Keys and Andy Gray got caught out live on air after a technical glitch meant some of their comments were heard during a match.

..Veteran anchor Keys and chief analyst Gray were reportedly heard talking over some feeds of Arsenal's 4-1 defeat in Barcelona on Tuesday criticising Gunners winger Theo Walcott, with Keys also joking about someone's flatulence in the studio.

England international Walcott helped create the opening goal, but had an otherwise disappointing performance at the Camp Nou.

At one point during the match, the 21-year-old went to ground, Keys was heard to say on an online stream of the match: "Get up, you stupid little boy.

"You've been s***e, son, in your daft pink boots - absolute rubbish."

Later on, former TV-am presenter Keys asked studio pundits Graeme Souness and Ruud Gullit: "Who's farted? It's not me."

Gray was also heard laying into Walcott on a feed picked up on Dutch television.

The former Everton, Wolves and Aston Villa striker said: "That Walcott's s***e, isn't he?"

With Lionel Messi's sensational first-half hat-trick ending the tie as a contest, Gray's attentions turned to half-time refreshments, and he was also heard asking: "Is someone going to get the teas on?"

A Sky spokesman denied the incidents, saying: "There were no technical issues with the audio on the night.

"On Sky coverage no conversations could be heard behind the live match commentary, and we did not supply any feeds to outside broadcasters. Richard has no reaction."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 08, 2010, 02:34:31 PM
On the night their analysis seems pretty spot on...unusual for those two eejits
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 08, 2010, 02:58:23 PM
They're years behind O'Rourke and Spillane in that regard.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 09, 2010, 09:57:32 AM
Pesky Gooners:

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/5308242/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 12, 2010, 04:27:23 PM
I have learned that one of the biggest shareholders in Arsenal Football Club has put her stake on the market, a move that will effectively kick off a fresh battle for control of the Premier League side.
Lady Nina Bracewell-Smith has hired bankers at Blackstone to find a buyer for her roughly-16 per cent stake, which has been owned by her and her family for many years.
At first glance, Blackstone may not need to look further than Arsenal's two biggest investors to find a willing buyer: Kroenke Sports Enterprises, the vehicle of the American sports tycoon Stan Kroenke; and Red & White Holdings, which is fronted by the Russian oligarch Alisher Usmanov.
However, I'm told that while Red & White may add modestly to its 26 per cent stake, Usmanov does not want to bid for the club at the moment, an action that would be automatically triggered under the City takeover code if its stake went to 30 per cent or more.
Kroenke, though, is unlikely to have such reservations, given that he has been slowly accumulating shares to stand on the brink of mounting a full takeover. Reports say that he is due to decide today whether he will sell his shares in the St Louis Rams, an NFL team, which would give him some of the financial firepower required to lodge an acceptable bid.
Kroenke made his debut on the Arsenal shareholder register in 2007, when he bought a 9.9 per cent stake from ITV. Since then, the club has enjoyed little real success on the pitch despite playing what most purists believe is the most attractive football in the Premier League.
My City sources say they are slightly puzzled as to why Lady Bracewell-Smith has appointed City advisers to sell the stake, given that she served on the board alongside Kroenke and knows many of the protagonists well already. Her decision to appoint Blackstone may therefore suggest that she has no intention of selling to the American.
This news about Arsenal caps a frenetic few weeks in the world of football finance. Last month, I revealed that a group of City financiers known as the Red Knights was plotting a bid to buy Manchester United; and on Saturday, I broke the news that Liverpool's American owners, are to appoint Barclays Capital to find a buyer for the club.
Nobody involved in the Arsenal situation was available for comment today, while Blackstone declined to comment.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: muppet on April 12, 2010, 06:22:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 12, 2010, 04:27:23 PM
I have learned that one of the biggest shareholders in Arsenal Football Club has put her stake on the market, a move that will effectively kick off a fresh battle for control of the Premier League side.
Lady Nina Bracewell-Smith has hired bankers at Blackstone to find a buyer for her roughly-16 per cent stake, which has been owned by her and her family for many years.
At first glance, Blackstone may not need to look further than Arsenal's two biggest investors to find a willing buyer: Kroenke Sports Enterprises, the vehicle of the American sports tycoon Stan Kroenke; and Red & White Holdings, which is fronted by the Russian oligarch Alisher Usmanov.
However, I'm told that while Red & White may add modestly to its 26 per cent stake, Usmanov does not want to bid for the club at the moment, an action that would be automatically triggered under the City takeover code if its stake went to 30 per cent or more.
Kroenke, though, is unlikely to have such reservations, given that he has been slowly accumulating shares to stand on the brink of mounting a full takeover. Reports say that he is due to decide today whether he will sell his shares in the St Louis Rams, an NFL team, which would give him some of the financial firepower required to lodge an acceptable bid.
Kroenke made his debut on the Arsenal shareholder register in 2007, when he bought a 9.9 per cent stake from ITV. Since then, the club has enjoyed little real success on the pitch despite playing what most purists believe is the most attractive football in the Premier League.
My City sources say they are slightly puzzled as to why Lady Bracewell-Smith has appointed City advisers to sell the stake, given that she served on the board alongside Kroenke and knows many of the protagonists well already. Her decision to appoint Blackstone may therefore suggest that she has no intention of selling to the American.
This news about Arsenal caps a frenetic few weeks in the world of football finance. Last month, I revealed that a group of City financiers known as the Red Knights was plotting a bid to buy Manchester United; and on Saturday, I broke the news that Liverpool's American owners, are to appoint Barclays Capital to find a buyer for the club.
Nobody involved in the Arsenal situation was available for comment today, while Blackstone declined to comment.


Maybe she just wants the best price? ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ross4life on April 12, 2010, 07:27:00 PM
No talk here about having Van Persie Back in Training

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d121/itsthejason/29082006114027g.gif)

I'm sure Wenger is Happy

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 13, 2010, 08:19:57 PM
Cmon Bolton. Just 70 mins to houl out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ildanach on April 13, 2010, 08:39:38 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 12, 2010, 04:27:23 PM
I have learned that one of the biggest shareholders in Arsenal Football Club has put her stake on the market, a move that will effectively kick off a fresh battle for control of the Premier League side.
Lady Nina Bracewell-Smith has hired bankers at Blackstone to find a buyer for her roughly-16 per cent stake, which has been owned by her and her family for many years.
At first glance, Blackstone may not need to look further than Arsenal's two biggest investors to find a willing buyer: Kroenke Sports Enterprises, the vehicle of the American sports tycoon Stan Kroenke; and Red & White Holdings, which is fronted by the Russian oligarch Alisher Usmanov.
However, I'm told that while Red & White may add modestly to its 26 per cent stake, Usmanov does not want to bid for the club at the moment, an action that would be automatically triggered under the City takeover code if its stake went to 30 per cent or more.
Kroenke, though, is unlikely to have such reservations, given that he has been slowly accumulating shares to stand on the brink of mounting a full takeover. Reports say that he is due to decide today whether he will sell his shares in the St Louis Rams, an NFL team, which would give him some of the financial firepower required to lodge an acceptable bid.
Kroenke made his debut on the Arsenal shareholder register in 2007, when he bought a 9.9 per cent stake from ITV. Since then, the club has enjoyed little real success on the pitch despite playing what most purists believe is the most attractive football in the Premier League.
My City sources say they are slightly puzzled as to why Lady Bracewell-Smith has appointed City advisers to sell the stake, given that she served on the board alongside Kroenke and knows many of the protagonists well already. Her decision to appoint Blackstone may therefore suggest that she has no intention of selling to the American.
This news about Arsenal caps a frenetic few weeks in the world of football finance. Last month, I revealed that a group of City financiers known as the Red Knights was plotting a bid to buy Manchester United; and on Saturday, I broke the news that Liverpool's American owners, are to appoint Barclays Capital to find a buyer for the club.
Nobody involved in the Arsenal situation was available for comment today, while Blackstone declined to comment.

do your sources in the city give you much info ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 13, 2010, 08:40:31 PM
Cmon Bolton. Just 50 mins to houl out.

Get stuck in Jack effing Wilshere.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Puckoon on April 13, 2010, 08:41:11 PM
Have Arsenal and the spuds ever played in such a vital game to both sides in recent history?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 13, 2010, 08:42:24 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on April 13, 2010, 08:41:11 PM
Have Arsenal and the spuds ever played in such a vital game to both sides in recent history?

Probably not. A draw ruins both chances too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ildanach on April 13, 2010, 08:43:07 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on April 13, 2010, 08:41:11 PM
Have Arsenal and the spuds ever played in such a vital game to both sides in recent history?
the race for 4th a couple of years back
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 13, 2010, 08:44:42 PM
Quote from: ildanach on April 13, 2010, 08:43:07 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on April 13, 2010, 08:41:11 PM
Have Arsenal and the spuds ever played in such a vital game to both sides in recent history?
the race for 4th a couple of years back

Don't remember them playing each other to decide that?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 13, 2010, 08:45:36 PM
Anelka ye hoor. 1-0, 43 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Gaffer on April 13, 2010, 09:00:27 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 13, 2010, 08:44:42 PM
Quote from: ildanach on April 13, 2010, 08:43:07 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on April 13, 2010, 08:41:11 PM
Have Arsenal and the spuds ever played in such a vital game to both sides in recent history?
the race for 4th a couple of years back

Don't remember them playing each other to decide that?
Yes, remember something about that alright. Near end of season. Remember the incident where two Arsenal men went down and Spurs manager ordered his players to play on and they scored a goal from it. Wenger and him had a right barney about that on the touchline.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ildanach on April 13, 2010, 09:02:36 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on April 13, 2010, 09:00:27 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 13, 2010, 08:44:42 PM
Quote from: ildanach on April 13, 2010, 08:43:07 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on April 13, 2010, 08:41:11 PM
Have Arsenal and the spuds ever played in such a vital game to both sides in recent history?
the race for 4th a couple of years back

Don't remember them playing each other to decide that?
Yes, remember something about that alright. Near end of season. Remember the incident where two Arsenal men went down and Spurs manager ordered his players to play on and they scored a goal from it. Wenger and him had a right barney about that on the touchline.

last derby in highbury, we were 4 points behind and went 1 nil down when spuds played on when eboue was injured in midfield. henry scored the equaliser and we went on to get 4th.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 13, 2010, 09:13:00 PM
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41589000/jpg/_41589668_wenger_jol.jpg)

(http://www.readersdigest.com.au/global/AU/images/au/GB_healthy_lasagne.gif)

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Gaffer on April 13, 2010, 09:17:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzsOq3CM5qY

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 13, 2010, 09:38:26 PM
Still 1-0 to Chelsea with 15 left. A nervy performance from Chelsea with Bolton edging closer.

Chelsea prob end up 3-0 though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 13, 2010, 09:40:33 PM
How does Kevin Davies get away with fouls like that every week?

He must be the highest fouler every year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 13, 2010, 09:47:25 PM
Eff me, Elmander had a chance to make it 1-1 there. 85 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 13, 2010, 09:58:47 PM
Finished 1-0 - result everything for Chelsea.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Boycey on April 13, 2010, 10:16:24 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 13, 2010, 09:40:33 PM
How does Kevin Davies get away with fouls like that every week?

He must be the highest fouler every year.

Far from it, hes actually the highest foulee (poetic licence)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1164216/WEB-EXCLUSIVE-Even-stats-Ronaldo-reveal-Premier-Leagues-fouled-players-season.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 14, 2010, 07:20:03 PM
 Arsenal: Almunia
Sagna Sol Vermaelen Clichy
Denilson Diaby Nasri Eboue Rosicky
Bendtner
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 14, 2010, 07:21:52 PM
RvP on bench along with Fabianski, Walcott, Eduardo Eastmond Silvestre Merida
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ross4life on April 14, 2010, 07:34:01 PM
well i hope you not all alone like last night  ;) should be a good derby with plenty of goals
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ildanach on April 14, 2010, 07:56:18 PM
sol to score the winner! 2 v 1 to the arsenal (bentner to equalise!)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: new devil on April 14, 2010, 08:15:10 PM
 :o :o What a goal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: gerry on April 14, 2010, 08:16:30 PM
feck thats not a good start
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: centre 3/4s on April 14, 2010, 08:18:43 PM
great strike but that tosser almunia should have caught the cross...ballbag!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 14, 2010, 08:19:19 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 13, 2010, 09:40:33 PM
How does Kevin Davies get away with fouls like that every week?

He must be the highest fouler every year.

He is! His 'header' on Zhirkov last night had a suspicious ring to it IMHO.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: gallsman on April 14, 2010, 08:39:56 PM
Cracking connection alright, not bad on your full debut!

Cue Fearon demanding a World Cup call-up...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 14, 2010, 08:53:41 PM
This is due to happen. Arsenal have had some luck over the years against Spurs - you don't go 20 games without defeat to a side like Spurs without a bit of luck. This time, the Gunners have played Spurs completely off the field but fall to the only touch Rose gets in the half.

A part of me wants Spurs to put me out of my misery regarding the lingering title hopes.

Can't see Arsenal scoring two never mind one due to the lack of a predator. Bendtner's positioning is chronic. Spurs shite though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: EC Unique on April 14, 2010, 08:54:36 PM
Lively half. I would like to see a 1-1 so as to keep Liverpool in the race for 4th. Maybe they could by some miracle beat Chelsea and do Utd a favour!


Tony will be hard to listen to is spuds can hold on:

(http://www.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:Zv_mUZdx9M7iEM::www.cenobyte.ca/words/uploaded_images/fat-tony-wallpaper-buono-760200.jpg&h=94&w=125&usg=__E1E0rAztDqz2E7jws_ixV3jMCuw=)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: gerry on April 14, 2010, 09:08:25 PM
feck
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 14, 2010, 09:13:31 PM
Can see a few days Gaaboard sabbatical coming up.

What's this HoganStand like?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: gerry on April 14, 2010, 09:17:00 PM
no doubt tony be on soon
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ross4life on April 14, 2010, 09:25:12 PM
only the 4th placed team has to play Champions league Play-off next season so United & Arsenal are into the Group Stages whatever happens
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: gerry on April 14, 2010, 09:29:41 PM
RVP is back
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: new devil on April 14, 2010, 09:46:26 PM
arsenal will win this game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: imtommygunn on April 14, 2010, 09:48:07 PM
Bendtner has 9 in 11...

He's probably about ~20 chances though!

Shows you if arsenal had a clinical sstriker they'd be a serious threat. If only Franny Jeffers the goal poacher had worked out....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: new devil on April 14, 2010, 09:49:15 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 14, 2010, 09:46:38 PM
Fearon stops mid-w**k....

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 14, 2010, 09:50:20 PM
gomes is single handedly keeping spurs in it !
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: The Real Laoislad on April 14, 2010, 09:51:05 PM
How Wenger would love some Fergie Time now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ross4life on April 14, 2010, 09:51:56 PM
Chelsea will beat spuds at at least 3-0 on Saturday
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: new devil on April 14, 2010, 09:57:33 PM
Quote from: new devil on April 14, 2010, 09:46:26 PM
arsenal will win this game

So they won't!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 14, 2010, 09:58:51 PM
Fair play to Gomez - he's some keeper on form.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: The Gs Man on April 14, 2010, 09:59:14 PM
2-1......

HAPPY BRITHDAY O'NEILL   :-*
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Shamrock Shore on April 14, 2010, 10:00:39 PM
Bit pathetic booing Sol..

Unless it was Boo-Urns!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: imtommygunn on April 14, 2010, 10:01:07 PM
What does Wenger see in Eboue? He's useless.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 14, 2010, 10:02:07 PM
There have been three big games on this date - the 1991 cup semi final v Spurs when Gazza scored the clinker and they won 3-1, the Utd semi final when Giggs scored that mazy goal and it finished 2-1 to them and now this.

Cursed date.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: The Gs Man on April 14, 2010, 10:03:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTto4v_t0lU

Non-Fail

8)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ross4life on April 14, 2010, 10:04:52 PM
Arsenal didn't really get clear cut chances until van Persie & Walcott came on
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: T Fearon on April 14, 2010, 10:23:59 PM
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: muppet on April 14, 2010, 10:24:35 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on April 14, 2010, 10:23:59 PM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Single handed?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: TirEoghaingodeo on April 14, 2010, 11:39:21 PM
I'd just like to add

Quote from: T Fearon on April 14, 2010, 10:23:59 PM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Great week for the Arse alright, but sure at least all thise nice tippy-tappy sideways passes are nice to look at.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 15, 2010, 07:53:10 AM
Sure if the Spuds didn't exist you'd have to make them up they're that entertaining....

Damn you RVP, why did you have to put in that 20 min cameo and make us all wonder what if.........

Wonder who Wenger will clear out in the summer..

Eboue?
Sagna?
Clichy?
Eduardo?
Vela?
Diaby?
Denilson?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: nrico2006 on April 15, 2010, 11:20:39 AM
Quote from: TirEoghaingodeo on April 14, 2010, 11:39:21 PM
I'd just like to add

Quote from: T Fearon on April 14, 2010, 10:23:59 PM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Great week for the Arse alright, but sure at least all thise nice tippy-tappy sideways passes are nice to look at.
I am sure Wenger will come out soon with his old line that 'My team is very young blah blah blah' for the hundredth year in a row.  But sure as is so often mentioned, Arsenal are the best footballing side in the league ;)

Too many duds in that team, and why has RVP been seen by many as such a key man to the mighty Goons?  I nearly fell of my seat the other day when I heard Wenger say that RVP would be up there with Messi, Ronaldo and Rooney if he hadn't been injured this year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ildanach on April 15, 2010, 11:26:09 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 15, 2010, 07:53:10 AM
Sure if the Spuds didn't exist you'd have to make them up they're that entertaining....

Damn you RVP, why did you have to put in that 20 min cameo and make us all wonder what if.........

Wonder who Wenger will clear out in the summer..

Eboue?
Sagna?
Clichy?
Eduardo?
Vela?
Diaby?
Denilson?
could see sagna and eduardo going dont think any of the rest will stay.
to many sideways passes last night. very disappointing
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: blewuporstuffed on April 15, 2010, 11:30:17 AM

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I am sure Wenger will come out soon with his old line that 'My team is very young blah blah blah' for the hundredth year in a row.  But sure as is so often mentioned, Arsenal are the best footballing side in the league ;)

Too many duds in that team, and why has RVP been seen by many as such a key man to the mighty Goons?  I nearly fell of my seat the other day when I heard Wenger say that RVP would be up there with Messi, Ronaldo and Rooney if he hadn't been injured this year.
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maybe not at that level, but is certainly in the next tier down of players.
a top top player IMO
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Doogie Browser on April 15, 2010, 11:36:58 AM
How good was that RVP cameo last night?  He was best player on the park and looked brilliant for 20 mins.  On the flip side how bad was Silvestre?  :D  His touch was awful and in injury time he just passed the ball back to Spuds when Arsenal needed possession, commentators never even mentioned it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: AZOffaly on April 15, 2010, 12:09:11 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on April 15, 2010, 11:30:17 AM

I am sure Wenger will come out soon with his old line that 'My team is very young blah blah blah' for the hundredth year in a row.  But sure as is so often mentioned, Arsenal are the best footballing side in the league ;)

Too many duds in that team, and why has RVP been seen by many as such a key man to the mighty Goons?  I nearly fell of my seat the other day when I heard Wenger say that RVP would be up there with Messi, Ronaldo and Rooney if he hadn't been injured this year.
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maybe not at that level, but is certainly in the next tier down of players.
Quotea top top player IMO
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Are you Alan Hansen? :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: blewuporstuffed on April 15, 2010, 12:26:48 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 15, 2010, 12:09:11 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on April 15, 2010, 11:30:17 AM

I am sure Wenger will come out soon with his old line that 'My team is very young blah blah blah' for the hundredth year in a row.  But sure as is so often mentioned, Arsenal are the best footballing side in the league ;)

Too many duds in that team, and why has RVP been seen by many as such a key man to the mighty Goons?  I nearly fell of my seat the other day when I heard Wenger say that RVP would be up there with Messi, Ronaldo and Rooney if he hadn't been injured this year.

maybe not at that level, but is certainly in the next tier down of players.
Quotea top top player IMO
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Are you Alan Hansen? :D
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dam, cover blown  :D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: orangeman on April 18, 2010, 03:22:35 PM
2 up and beaten 3-2 Jesus Christ !!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on April 18, 2010, 03:25:37 PM
3 goals in last 10 mins for Wigan.  Feck's sake Chelsea play them in last game :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: TirEoghaingodeo on April 18, 2010, 03:27:02 PM
At the risk of repeating myself

Quote from: TirEoghaingodeo on April 14, 2010, 11:39:21 PM
I'd just like to add

Quote from: T Fearon on April 14, 2010, 10:23:59 PM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Great week for the Arse alright, but sure at least all thise nice tippy-tappy sideways passes are nice to look at.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: TirEoghaingodeo on April 18, 2010, 04:06:16 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 18, 2010, 03:34:27 PM
What a f**king goal the winner was.

Lovely
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Minder on April 18, 2010, 04:54:13 PM
Quote from: A Quinn Martin Production on April 18, 2010, 03:25:37 PM
3 goals in last 10 mins for Wigan.  Feck's sake Chelsea play them in last game :o

They will prob be safe by then.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: AFS on April 18, 2010, 05:03:47 PM
Saw the second half. Both teams were shit. Arsenal didn't look bothered and let Wigan dominate. Wigan were terrible up front and messed up chance after chance, before eventually getting their act together in the last 10 minutes. No one in the Arsenal team to give them a kick up the hole when they went into autopilot after Silvestre's goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 18, 2010, 05:27:17 PM
You have to laugh.

You just have to.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Gaffer on April 18, 2010, 05:56:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 18, 2010, 05:27:17 PM
You have to laugh.

You just have to.

Def not. Simply awful to watch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 18, 2010, 06:26:35 PM
That's what my psychologist says though. He reckons the alternative is dangerous.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Gaffer on April 18, 2010, 07:31:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 18, 2010, 06:26:35 PM
That's what my psychologist says though. He reckons the alternative is dangerous.

I'll need to see hm quickly!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: under the bar on April 18, 2010, 08:00:48 PM
Tinkerbell has bigger balls than that Arsenal team
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ross4life on April 18, 2010, 09:01:50 PM
So that's 5 years without a Trophy, 6 since they last won the league yet Wenger is still under no pressure at Arsenal

Why?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: mortified on April 18, 2010, 09:26:29 PM
Ridiculous again, another season where they come up short. Really need goalie, centre back, centre midfielder and striker. Cant stand Eduardo (dont rate), Rosicky (inconsistent) and Silvestre (United reject, why is he good enough for Arsenal?). Please Arsene actually sign some top notch players. Hopefully Wilshere and Djorou will be back in August as well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: under the bar on April 18, 2010, 09:47:43 PM
QuoteSilvestre (United reject, why is he good enough for Arsenal?).

You only need look at the 3 most recent United-Arsenal games to find the answer to that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Gaffer on April 18, 2010, 09:48:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 18, 2010, 09:01:50 PM
So that's 5 years without a Trophy, 6 since they last won the league yet Wenger is still under no pressure at Arsenal

Why?

Why is Man U in such a financial mess with an uncertain future? Why don't Man U supporters demand that they get new stadium instead of putting up with the absolute DUMP that is Ancient Trafford. Man U have not invested n the future like Arsenal have done. Yes, trophies have been light the past few years but Arsenal are in a good financial footing,(unlike Man U) with a stadium that will cater for the 21st Century (unlike Man U) and any Arsenal supporter should be content with the investments . Man U supporters face a more uncertain future
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ross4life on April 18, 2010, 10:03:41 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on April 18, 2010, 09:48:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 18, 2010, 09:01:50 PM
So that's 5 years without a Trophy, 6 since they last won the league yet Wenger is still under no pressure at Arsenal

Why?

Why don't Man U supporters demand that they get new stadium instead of putting up with the absolute DUMP that is Ancient Trafford. Man U have not invested n the future

Are you for Real? Old Trafford is one of UEFA Elite stadiums
As for underage/future united still have one of the best in Europe

answer my question before you start talking rubbish! if fergie went all those years without winning anything he would have been under huge pressure now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Boycey on April 18, 2010, 10:08:19 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on April 18, 2010, 09:48:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 18, 2010, 09:01:50 PM
So that's 5 years without a Trophy, 6 since they last won the league yet Wenger is still under no pressure at Arsenal

Why?

Why is Man U in such a financial mess with an uncertain future? Why don't Man U supporters demand that they get new stadium instead of putting up with the absolute DUMP that is Ancient Trafford. Man U have not invested n the future like Arsenal have done. Yes, trophies have been light the past few years but Arsenal are in a good financial footing,(unlike Man U) with a stadium that will cater for the 21st Century (unlike Man U) and any Arsenal supporter should be content with the investments . Man U supporters face a more uncertain future


U do know that there is an American guy who is 6 shares short of making a compulsory bid for Arsenal. Do you know his intentions???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: under the bar on April 18, 2010, 10:09:31 PM
QuoteWhy is Man U in such a financial mess with an uncertain future? Why don't Man U supporters demand that they get new stadium instead of putting up with the absolute DUMP that is Ancient Trafford. Man U have not invested n the future like Arsenal have done. Yes, trophies have been light the past few years but Arsenal are in a good financial footing,(unlike Man U) with a stadium that will cater for the 21st Century (unlike Man U) and any Arsenal supporter should be content with the investments . Man U supporters face a more uncertain future

What a load of crap.   You got a new stadium cos you sold your soul to the highest bidder be it McDonalds, CocaCola or Arab Airlines.  And don't go thinking that you couldn't get taken over by blood-sucking vultures once you become successful on the big stage.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Gaffer on April 18, 2010, 10:14:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 18, 2010, 10:03:41 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on April 18, 2010, 09:48:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 18, 2010, 09:01:50 PM
So that's 5 years without a Trophy, 6 since they last won the league yet Wenger is still under no pressure at Arsenal

Why?

Why don't Man U supporters demand that they get new stadium instead of putting up with the absolute DUMP that is Ancient Trafford. Man U have not invested n the future

Are you for Real? Old Trafford is one of UEFA Elite stadiums
As for underage/future united still have one of the best in Europe

answer my question before you start talking rubbish! if fergie went all those years without winning anything he would have been under huge pressure now

Trafford is a dump for supporters. Too many have said the same thing to me. They are in a financial mess and the worst is yet to come. Fergie has wasted millions on players over the years. This isn't rubbish.

If Arsenal had spent the money that Fergie has spent then yes they may have had a few trophies the past 6 years. But, instead they chose to  invest for the future which meant limited amounts of money being spent on players thereby not winning anything. Sensible Arsenal supporters can see this and are prepared to be patient cos they know that success will return in the (not too distant, I hope) future.
United, on the other hand have spent millions on players that wasn't theirs and will soon reap what they have sown.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Boycey on April 18, 2010, 10:17:57 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on April 18, 2010, 10:14:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 18, 2010, 10:03:41 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on April 18, 2010, 09:48:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 18, 2010, 09:01:50 PM
So that's 5 years without a Trophy, 6 since they last won the league yet Wenger is still under no pressure at Arsenal

Why?

Why don't Man U supporters demand that they get new stadium instead of putting up with the absolute DUMP that is Ancient Trafford. Man U have not invested n the future

Are you for Real? Old Trafford is one of UEFA Elite stadiums
As for underage/future united still have one of the best in Europe

answer my question before you start talking rubbish! if fergie went all those years without winning anything he would have been under huge pressure now

Trafford is a dump for supporters. Too many have said the same thing to me. They are in a financial mess and the worst is yet to come. Fergie has wasted millions on players over the years. This isn't rubbish.

If Arsenal had spent the money that Fergie has spent then yes they may have had a few trophies the past 6 years. But, instead they chose to  invest for the future which meant limited amounts of money being spent on players thereby not winning anything. Sensible Arsenal supporters can see this and are prepared to be patient cos they know that success will return in the (not too distant, I hope) future.
United, on the other hand have spent millions on players that wasn't theirs and will soon reap what they have sown.

I'm now convinced ur on a wind up so i'll let others argue with u.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ross4life on April 18, 2010, 10:31:55 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on April 18, 2010, 10:14:52 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 18, 2010, 10:03:41 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on April 18, 2010, 09:48:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 18, 2010, 09:01:50 PM
So that's 5 years without a Trophy, 6 since they last won the league yet Wenger is still under no pressure at Arsenal

Why?

Why don't Man U supporters demand that they get new stadium instead of putting up with the absolute DUMP that is Ancient Trafford. Man U have not invested n the future

Are you for Real? Old Trafford is one of UEFA Elite stadiums
As for underage/future united still have one of the best in Europe

answer my question before you start talking rubbish! if fergie went all those years without winning anything he would have been under huge pressure now

Trafford is a dump for supporters. Too many have said the same thing to me. They are in a financial mess and the worst is yet to come. Fergie has wasted millions on players over the years. This isn't rubbish.

If Arsenal had spent the money that Fergie has spent then yes they may have had a few trophies the past 6 years. But, instead they chose to  invest for the future which meant limited amounts of money being spent on players thereby not winning anything. Sensible Arsenal supporters can see this and are prepared to be patient cos they know that success will return in the (not too distant, I hope) future.
United, on the other hand have spent millions on players that wasn't theirs and will soon reap what they have sown.

Well i've been to most the best Stadiums in Europe (San Siro, camp Nou, Stade de France among others) & Old Trafford is up there with the best & every fan worldwide knows this if they hate or love united!!

Every manager waste money on players! but look at all the money United have saved on the Current Squad Scholes,Giggs,Neville,Evans,Brown,O' Shea,Flecther,Gibson,Owen & not forgetting the great players united having coming through the youth system

& btw Arsenal have spent millions on Arshavin, Van Persie, Rosicky among others
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 18, 2010, 11:18:33 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 18, 2010, 09:01:50 PM
So that's 5 years without a Trophy, 6 since they last won the league yet Wenger is still under no pressure at Arsenal

Why?

Because this is Arsenal. They're a different class. For any team to break the financial stranglehold Utd and Chelsea have on that league, it'll take a monumental effort. Wenger has been close so many times since the obscene wages/transfers became a norm at those clubs. And he has done it playing scintillating football at times, albeit short of the finished product.

The Arsenal board and fans know what Arsene is capable of. Twas only six years ago they went through an entire season unbeaten. Knocking down that side and rebuilding on limited funds is a mighty task. He even reached a Champions League final and repeatedly qualified for that competition in that time.

At other clubs, the lack of silverware no matter what means your neck on the line. Arsenal are a different gravy. You'll take your trophies over what your club stands for, any time, and that's fine. Chelsea became a different club overnight a few years ago, unrecognisable from the Chelsea everyone grew up with. Their ethos was sold out. Utd don't really know what they are or who runs the joint. The forsake domestic competitions to brand themselves in another continent. The trophies keep rolling in and that keeps the fans happy. I'll keep my Arsenal thank you.

Although Senderos as player/manager is an attractive prospect.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ross4life on April 18, 2010, 11:34:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 18, 2010, 11:18:33 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 18, 2010, 09:01:50 PM
So that's 5 years without a Trophy, 6 since they last won the league yet Wenger is still under no pressure at Arsenal

Why?

Because this is Arsenal. They're a different class. For any team to break the financial stranglehold Utd and Chelsea have on that league, it'll take a monumental effort. Wenger has been close so many times since the obscene wages/transfers became a norm at those clubs. And he has done it playing scintillating football at times, albeit short of the finished product.

The Arsenal board and fans know what Arsene is capable of. Twas only six years ago they went through an entire season unbeaten. Knocking down that side and rebuilding on limited funds is a mighty task. He even reached a Champions League final and repeatedly qualified for that competition in that time.

At other clubs, the lack of silverware no matter what means your neck on the line. Arsenal are a different gravy. You'll take your trophies over what your club stands for, any time, and that's fine. Chelsea became a different club overnight a few years ago, unrecognisable from the Chelsea everyone grew up with. Their ethos was sold out. Utd don't really know what they are or who runs the joint. The forsake domestic competitions to brand themselves in another continent. The trophies keep rolling in and that keeps the fans happy. I'll keep my Arsenal thank you.

Although Senderos as player/manager is an attractive prospect.

well thanks for the more sensible answer! i still can't understand why Wenger doesn't play a better team in the Fa cup & league cup

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Boycey on April 19, 2010, 12:13:51 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 18, 2010, 11:18:33 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 18, 2010, 09:01:50 PM
So that's 5 years without a Trophy, 6 since they last won the league yet Wenger is still under no pressure at Arsenal

Why?

Because this is Arsenal. They're a different class. For any team to break the financial stranglehold Utd and Chelsea have on that league, it'll take a monumental effort. Wenger has been close so many times since the obscene wages/transfers became a norm at those clubs. And he has done it playing scintillating football at times, albeit short of the finished product.

The Arsenal board and fans know what Arsene is capable of. Twas only six years ago they went through an entire season unbeaten. Knocking down that side and rebuilding on limited funds is a mighty task. He even reached a Champions League final and repeatedly qualified for that competition in that time.

At other clubs, the lack of silverware no matter what means your neck on the line. Arsenal are a different gravy. You'll take your trophies over what your club stands for, any time, and that's fine. Chelsea became a different club overnight a few years ago, unrecognisable from the Chelsea everyone grew up with. Their ethos was sold out. Utd don't really know what they are or who runs the joint. The forsake domestic competitions to brand themselves in another continent. The trophies keep rolling in and that keeps the fans happy. I'll keep my Arsenal thank you.

Although Senderos as player/manager is an attractive prospect.

Arsenal and Wenger in particular are to be praised for the way they haved handled their finances and remained competitive but please spare us the Arsenal are a little community club in amongst the "nasty boys" routine. Its far from the truth. They left their spiritual home at Highbury to chase the corporate pound the same as everyone else. The moved to a soulless 60,000 seater arena to which they sold the naming rights to the highest bidder, branding???. The cheapest season ticket into the place is close on £1000 stg with premium level seats costing up to 5k. Their matchday revenue is the highest in the premiership. I think they are going to the US this summer, that'd be for the fans I'm sure.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ONeill on April 19, 2010, 02:53:07 PM
Arsenal simply had to leave Highbury. Every supporter I knew wanted it too. The old stadium  was heading towards dilapidation and couldn't be built upon due to the residential area. It was quite a unique experience walking towards the old Highbury, like walking along a row of terraced housing and the middle section being the ground.

But Arsenal's continued success in term of Champions League football qualification meant that demand left season ticket waiting lists at 8-10 yrs. 38'000 has turned into 60'000 with a slight reduction in the waiting list.

It was a pity to leave Highbury for sentimental reasons but the club and its support had long outgrown the bricks and mortar from 1913.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ross4life on April 19, 2010, 03:04:41 PM
just watching back the highlights from yesterdays game Lukasz Fabianski has to be the worst goalkeeper in the premier league since Massimo Taibi
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: Eastern_Pride on April 19, 2010, 03:05:33 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 19, 2010, 03:04:41 PM
just watching back the highlights from yesterdays game Lukasz Fabianski has to be the worst goalkeeper in the premier league since Massimo Taibi
Is there no case for Mannone anymore?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: stew on April 19, 2010, 06:30:28 PM
3 goals conceeded in 11 minutes at the business end of the game with a two nil lead against a perennial premiership struggler, how low can it go for thei Arsenal squad?

First the spuds take them, fair enough they are a quality team and one that is playing lights out at the moment, but then an unbelievable loss to lowly wigan with a two goal lead tells me that Arsenal are brittle at the minute, they now have nothing to play for except trying to hold on to their third place position in the premiership and even that is not a given anymore.

Wegner needs to add a bit of steel to their game, all the pretty football is great to watch but it is not worth a damn if you cannot win games when you absolutely have to have it a la United V City this year. (twice)
Title: Arseblog
Post by: ONeill on April 20, 2010, 02:29:24 PM
The feel-good factor is gone

Tuesday, 20 April 10

I'll admit this morning that at no stage this season did I ever believe Arsenal would win the league or the Champions League.

Even when we'd clawed back the points having been so far behind at the end of January I thought it was too much to expect. Similarly when we saw the side of the draw we were in for the Champions League. If we'd managed to beat Barcelona it would have been Inter Milan in the next round. Perhaps, with all our players fit and healthy and at the top of their games, we might have given it a good go but even still I think we'd have fallen short.

Of course the idea that we might have all our best players fit and healthy is one which would be almost unbelievable fiction. The injuries suffered by van Persie, Cesc, Arshavin, Gallas, Walcott, Clichy, Bendtner and Nasri, all of whom missed significant chunks of the season, have certainly had an impact. I'm not blaming them or making excuses but that's the reality.

Anyway, my point is that my expectation level wasn't so high as to view not landing a trophy as a failure. I was looking for progress and until the Wigan game I was relatively assured that it had been achieved. More or less nailed on for third in the league, with second still to fight for and the outside chance of first if all the stars lined up in the right way, I couldn't really complain.

We'd shown great character at times this season. I go back to the game against Standard Liege away and how we were 2-0 down very early on. It had been so long since I'd seen an Arsenal team win a game from that position and I remember saying at the time it'd be a brilliant thing for this team to do. It would instill in them a belief that they could do it in subsequent games, that they could move on from the mindset which told them that even going one down was more or less game over. The comeback that night was fantastic and I'm quite sure it laid the foundation for some of the results this season, the late winners and so on.

I saw a team go to Fulham, the rookie keeper have the game of his life and a moment of quality from Robin van Persie in the game for us. We spanked 6 past Blackburn to add to the 6 we stuck past Everton on the opening day of the season. A north London derby triumph. A backs to wall win against Liverpool away. Cesc's remarkable cameo against Villa. And while the United and Chelsea games hurt, because the two best teams in the country exposed our weaknesses mercilessly, that we got ourselves back into things was a credit to the players and the manager.

Individuals who had been on the periphery had, it appeared, matured somewhat and responded to the manager's continued belief in them. Diaby had a spell when he looked like the energetic, dynamic powerhouse we all hoped he might be. Denilson has his critics but 6 goals from midfield was no bad return at all. Clichy looked to be finding some form again. Alex Song's emergence as an important first team player continued. Cesc had the best season of his Arsenal career so far, not just because he's a great player and the new formation suited him, but because he had decent support from his midfield partners who allowed him to play so well. Nicklas Bendtner scored 3 goals when playing in the wide right position. When he returned from injury and took up the central striking position he got 9 goals in 12 games. I know he doesn't convince everyone but he's the only player in our team who could have scored the goal against Stoke away, the Hull goal, the Wolves goal, scrappy, poachers goals. Strikers goals.

As for the flaws they've been apparent all season but not difficult to fix. As I pointed out many of the goals we concede come from individual errors. Improve concentration and defensive discipline and they don't happen. Invest in a decent goalkeeper and they don't happen. While some of us would have liked to see him go out and spend money in January to find a new number 1 I think the majority realised that summer is the best time for that and we'd muddle on until then.

Despite that though the season felt better, more positive, the atmosphere around the ground and even online, for what it's worth, was better. It reached a low point last season with players openly barracked from the stands as fans frustration with the manager was projected onto players who weren't performing, for one reason or another. They were the easy targets. This season was different. Had Nicklas Bendtner's incredible sequence of misses against Burnley happened last season he would not have been applauded off the pitch. The fans would not have acknowledged the fact that the player had worked hard, got in all the right positions and just had one of those days (and I don't think I've ever seen a striker have a game like before, I don't expect to again). The applause helped and in the next game Bendtner scored a hat-trick in the Champions League.

And this is because fans could see the progress and take the positives. Now though it's like the feel-good factor is well and truly gone. The Wigan game was as poor a defeat as any Arsene Wenger Arsenal team has suffered. I fully understand why people are so upset about it because it's like the last eight months has been pissed away by a bunch of carefree slackers. Where was the fight against Wigan? Where was the energy, commitment and will to win? Why did an Arsenal team who still had a chance, albeit very small, of winning the title play like that and capitulate like that?

We've all seen Arsenal suffer defeat in the past, we've seen Arsenal lose to teams they shouldn't, lose games they shouldn't, but I've been racking my brains to try and remember the last time a title chasing Arsenal side threw away a 2-0 lead with 10 minutes to go against a relegation zone team and ended up losing the game. I can't remember it ever happening before and it has damaged our season in a big, big way.

Those of us who looked at this campaign and saw more positives than negatives are having to think again. I'm not saying it has undone everything that came before it. I spent some time yesterday watching goal clips from earlier games and the excitement and the enjoyment is palpable. Yet the Wigan game has opened up old wounds, if you will. Doubts about certain players in terms of attitude and ability have come to the fore. It's all well and good performing and winning when things are going well but when it comes to the crunch do you have what it takes? It reminds me a bit of William Gallas's captaincy. I said at the time it's a fairly easy job to captain a side which is playing well, winning games and is top of the league. But you earn your stripes is when things go wrong, when your team needs leadership, when things aren't easy - and when that happened Gallas was found wanting.

The same goes - in the big games this season too many of these players didn't perform. And you can say what you want about Chelsea or Man United or even Barcelona, but Wigan away was a big game. Not because the opposition was glamorous and played beautiful football but because of what was at stake. My conclusion is that the manager needs to get ruthless, accept that there's a problem within his team, weed out the flat track bullies, and put things right for next season. Perhaps others came to that conclusion long before I did, good for them, but I prefer to look at what's in front of me before I make my mind up.

However, for all the concerns we might have about the team and the way they let us down when push came to shove, we've got three games left to go this season. On Saturday Man City visit the Grove. I don't know about you but the contempt I hold for what Man City have become far outweighs the issues I have with our own team. The extent to which I want Adebayor to suffer makes the fact that I want to grab Diaby and slap his face and say 'What the f**k is wrong with you? You have the chance of a lifetime at this club and you can't be arsed, you lazy twat', irrelevant. I want his every touch to be met with a chorus of Arsenal boos and if Paddy gets on I want to cheer and make Adebayor realise that for all the goals he scored he's viewed as nothing more than a greedy, troublemaking mercenary.

I want this team to go to Blackburn and stand up to the physical onslaught the Walrus's team will inflict on us. I want a repeat of that game when we were 4-0 up at half time there. I want us to go through the second half looking at a broken Blackburn side and a puce Walrus whose veins throb on his neck as every 'Olé' rings out from the away end. And on the final day of the season I want this Arsenal side to win against Fulham to finish off the season.

My point is that while the fans have a role to play it is entirely down to the players and the manager to put things right. They've let us down this week. A defeat to Sp*rs and a defeat in those circumstances to Wigan is about as trying as it gets. It's down to them to restore the feel-good factor. It's down to them to work harder than the opposition, it's down to them to want to win more than they do, it's down to them to make amends.

I'll be over for the City game and, depending how many kids are around me, I'll call Adebayor a **** at the top of my voice. But I want it to be a gloaty, 'look at the score you ****!', ****. Not the 'Why did nobody mark that ****?', ****. Three games to go, nine points up for grabs, achieving that won't make everything rosy in the garden again, but it'd be a decent start.

http://www.oleole.com/blogs/arseblog/posts/the-feel-good-factor-is-gone
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: DennistheMenace on April 20, 2010, 06:57:50 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 14, 2010, 09:51:56 PM
Chelsea will beat spuds at at least 3-0 on Saturday

Good shout..

Wenger has to be coming under pressure to deliver a trophy like Rafa, it's been 5 years now without silveware which shouldn't be acceptable to a supposed top club.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - lying down at the altar of one Lionel Messi
Post by: ross4life on April 20, 2010, 07:08:43 PM
Quote from: DennistheMenace on April 20, 2010, 06:57:50 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 14, 2010, 09:51:56 PM
Chelsea will beat spuds at at least 3-0 on Saturday

Good shout..



Yes it was a weird set of Results last weekend that even i got wrong, i was only expecting at best a Draw for united also
As fergie would say "football bloody hell"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: ONeill on April 24, 2010, 09:50:52 PM
Awful game.

Arsene will explain:

On the 0-0 draw...
"It was an afternoon I am not used to because we created very few chances and Man City didn't create anything. They were highly focussed on defending well. They didn't give us any space and we could not find the opener. For as long as we couldn't do that it was a locked game basically. There were very few chances. It was two teams who played well defensively, had very good discipline but created very few chances."

On if he was surprised that City weren't more attacking...
"They think if they can get a point here and beat Tottenham at home then they will get above them."

On if Arsenal are assured of a top-three finish...
"Ninety per cent, not 100. We are nearly there."

On who will finish fourth...
"That is very difficult to predict. You would expect the two teams to win their next games and then it will be Man City v Tottenham that will be the decider. Man City has a little home advantage but it will be interesting until the end. It is difficult to predict."

On Emmanuel Adebayor's substitute appearance...
"He made it a bit livelier because our supporters suddenly got lively and he was focussed and motivated and sharp and he wants some longer balls and that is why suddenly it was a bit livelier. But even then they didn't create a lot. They played a lot on the counter attack and when you could break the counter attacks we weren't a lot in trouble."

On if recent defeats had an impact on the game...
"You could see that it was in our heads, yes. We didn't follow everything forward blindly, that is for sure, because we knew we couldn't afford to lose the game today. On top of that Man City made it difficult for us."

On if Inter Milan have shown Arsenal how they should have played against Barcelona...
"Barcelona played at a different pace collectively. The regret we have against Barcelona is the way we gave the goals away. In the second game I believe there was room to beat then."

On Robin Van Persie's performance...
"He was sharp for 60 minutes, 70 minutes. After he dropped physically, I left him on because I thought we can only win on set pieces today and that he could score a free kick or give a corner that could allow us to score. But overall he was very sharp, in the first half especially. But for having been out for such a long time it is quite positive."

On Sol Campbell's performance...
"Maybe you should take him to South Africa."

On if Campbell will be an Arsenal player next season...
"I don't know yet. I said yesterday I have to sit down with him and see. Since he has been in the team he has been outstanding. I never expected that from him and that is great credit to him. You can compare him with any centre-back in the League. He has been very, very good."

On Lukasz Fabianski...
"I believe it was important that he can play a game without having a lack of concentration. Today he was spot on from the first to the last minute. He read all the situations very well and that is what you want from him. I always said he is one of the most talented goalkeepers and when he gets the concentration right he will get there."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: orangeman on April 24, 2010, 11:08:01 PM
On MOTD Arsenal fans had a poster showing ex Arsenal player Adebayor in an Arsenal jeresy kissing the Arsenal jersey and then Adebayor in a Man City jersey - the poster declared " Apparently you CAN put a price on love !!! ".

Class.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: ONeill on April 28, 2010, 08:09:24 PM
Celtic, Lyon and Milan at the Emirates Cup on 31st July and 1st Aug.
Title: Andrey the Eejit
Post by: ONeill on May 03, 2010, 01:50:24 PM
Andrey Arshavin: I Will Leave Arsenal For Barcelona In The Summer

Arsenal forward Andrey Arshavin has claimed that he is set to sensationally depart the Emirates in the summer and join Barcelona.

The Russian recently claimed that it would be the pinnacle of any player's career to feature for the Catalan giants, prompting his manager Arsene Wenger to express disappointment that the player seemed to want to move.

And Arshavin also claims that Gael Clichy will be joining him in swapping London for Catalonia.

"I am going to Barcelona in the summer," said the Russian, according to The People.

"I have always dreamed about going to Spain and playing for the best team in the world.

''They were unsure about me when I was playing in Russia but I have shown them that I'm the real deal and I know they are ready to talk to me.

"I want to play for the top team and be trying to win every competition, I don't think you can rate one better than the other, it is all about winning. I want to play for them and that is never going to change.

"I know Gael Clichy would love to play out there as well, and he would work well in their team."

Arshavin is also unfazed by the competition for places he would face at Camp Nou.

"It would be tough trying to compete with Xavi and Iniesta but that is the competition I want, I don't want to walk into a team," he added.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: ONeill on May 03, 2010, 01:52:14 PM
So close to St Totteringham's Day. A point tonight moreorless guarantees it, a win mathematically does. Still an outside chance of the title if the top two are deducted points for something.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: ross4life on May 03, 2010, 07:28:41 PM
So another defeat for the Gooners today just noticed Wenger stormed off at the final whistle with no hand shakes for big Sam, if Fulham beat ye & spurs win there remaining games they finish 3rd right?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on May 03, 2010, 08:03:41 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 03, 2010, 07:28:41 PM
So another defeat for the Gooners today just noticed Wenger stormed off at the final whistle with no hand shakes for big Sam, if Fulham beat ye & spurs win there remaining games they finish 3rd right?




Do you already know the answer to this question?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: stew on May 03, 2010, 09:23:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 03, 2010, 07:28:41 PM
So another defeat for the Gooners today just noticed Wenger stormed off at the final whistle with no hand shakes for big Sam, if Fulham beat ye & spurs win there remaining games they finish 3rd right?
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The professor is making a mistake acting like that, he might not Big Sam but he cant fall out with everybody and he cant shake no ones hand after a defeat, he lets the club down when he acts like this, not to mention himself.

If the arse get bate in their last game and the spuds win out which is a big ask the two teams would flip flop in the league standings.

Arsenail could be in bother with the wee ruskie sayin he is going to Espania along with a colleague, it appears the professor has lost the respect of his team members, I wonder why that is. ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: under the bar on May 03, 2010, 09:31:32 PM
QuoteSo another defeat for the Gooners today just noticed Wenger stormed off at the final whistle with no hand shakes for big Sam,

Can anyone, Arsenal fan or otherwise, explain what Wenger expects to gain by doing this time after time? 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: stew on May 03, 2010, 09:50:07 PM
Quote from: under the bar on May 03, 2010, 09:31:32 PM
QuoteSo another defeat for the Gooners today just noticed Wenger stormed off at the final whistle with no hand shakes for big Sam,

Can anyone, Arsenal fan or otherwise, explain what Wenger expects to gain by doing this time after time?

Despie the fact the man can speak 6 languages fluently he is a terrible communicator when he does not get his way, grow up Arsne, the right team won and big sam abused the prof from a tactical perspective.

Angry Wenger blasts at Rovers and referee

May 3, 2010
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Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger refused to blame goalkeeper Lucasz Fabianski for his side's 2-1 defeat at Blackburn, choosing instead to accuse Rovers of "unfair" tactics and blaming referee Martin Atkinson for not providing the Gunners with more protection. 

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Wenger anger at Rovers tactics.


Fabianski appeared unsettled in the concession of Christopher Samba's winning goal but Wenger said no blame could be attached to his goalkeeper. The Poland international endured heavy criticism after his display at Wigan last month, when he conceded three goals in the last 10 minutes in a defeat which effectively ended Arsenal's title challenge.

"There is no purpose to play the ball from the Blackburn players - they don't even watch the ball," he said. "He (Fabianski) had two players in front of him all the time and every time it was to stop him getting the ball.

"In football when you don't go for the ball and you stop the keeper going for the ball it is a foul. I think the referee cannot allow that. I am very disappointed the referee lets that happen in a football game, it is unfair to a goalkeeper.

"They (Blackburn) do it well but when you feel that as a referee you have to give more protection. It doesn't take away the fact we weren't good but that is completely unfair."

Wenger said he had no concerns about Fabianski's form or confidence and deflected the attention towards Atkinson's performance. "I think Lucasz had a good game - it should affect the confidence of the referee," he added.

An unrepentant Blackburn manager Sam Allardyce was, unsurprisingly, delighted to have irked his Arsenal counterpart. "If you expose the opposition's weaknesses enough then in the end those weaknesses will be exposed," he said. "The amount of balls we put into the box on the keeper, who has obviously been a weak link for them, paid off.

"We beat Arsenal fair and square. The referee gave some that were fouls, he gave some that weren't fouls and he didn't give some that might have been fouls.

"You can't give everything as a foul on the goalkeeper and he certainly gave his fair share.

"You can argue all you want about those two particular incidents but we could argue Morten Gamst Pedersen should have had a penalty when he got brought down in the second half.

"I'm not overly concerned about what Arsene says - he's said it before about my tactics. But we know these tactics work against Arsenal and they've worked again today."

Allardyce added: "We play the game as managers, we look at each other and you see if you can find any weaknesses in the opposition manager as well as the team.

"Criticising me is great because I'd sooner him criticise me when I've beaten them rather than him praising me when they've beaten us. It is very pleasing we have won the game and I think we won the game because we deserved to."



rom a tactical perspective.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: muppet on May 03, 2010, 09:58:12 PM
Wenger has a condition known as small bladder and can only go 45 minutes maximum before he has to go for a oui oui.

Simples.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2010, 09:59:20 PM
QuoteI'm not overly concerned about what Arsene says - he's said it before about my tactics. But we know these tactics work against Arsenal and they've worked again today."

What a strange comment, Arsenal's away record at Ewood is bettered only by their away record at Man City and in fact the previous 4 games against Blackburn is 16-2 on aggregate.  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: DennistheMenace on May 03, 2010, 10:00:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2010, 09:59:20 PM
QuoteI'm not overly concerned about what Arsene says - he's said it before about my tactics. But we know these tactics work against Arsenal and they've worked again today."

What a strange comment, Arsenal's away record at Ewood is bettered only by their away record at Man City and in fact the previous 4 games against Blackburn is 16-2 on aggregate.  ::)

Yeah because Fat Sam was manager of Blackburn for those 18 games  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 03, 2010, 10:03:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2010, 09:59:20 PM
QuoteI'm not overly concerned about what Arsene says - he's said it before about my tactics. But we know these tactics work against Arsenal and they've worked again today."

What a strange comment, Arsenal's away record at Ewood is bettered only by their away record at Man City and in fact the previous 4 games against Blackburn is 16-2 on aggregate.  ::)

Probably talking about his Bolton days.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2010, 10:05:29 PM
His other games against Arsenal as Blackburn manager,  6-2 and 4-0 defeats, awesome tactics.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2010, 10:14:24 PM
QuoteProbably talking about his Bolton days.

Then why say "we", Arsenal rarely lose to long ball teams, in 9 years managing against Arsenal he has manged a whopping 4 EPL wins. He is an insufferable bafoon who thinks long ball is cutting edge tactics and who is probably a fluffer for Sir Alex on his days off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: thewobbler on May 03, 2010, 10:18:11 PM
St Totteringham's day goes down to the last week of the season. Who'd a thunk it?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2010, 10:20:10 PM
There'll be no lasagne eaten this week
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: ross4life on May 03, 2010, 10:22:33 PM
ohh btw Dinny

Chelsea Pts 83
United  Pts 82
Arsenal Pts 72

Now that's what i call really at a canter  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: tyroneboi on May 03, 2010, 10:23:27 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2010, 10:14:24 PM
QuoteProbably talking about his Bolton days.

Then why say "we", Arsenal rarely lose to long ball teams, in 9 years managing against Arsenal he has manged a whopping 4 EPL wins. He is an insufferable bafoon who thinks long ball is cutting edge tactics and who is probably a fluffer for Sir Alex on his days off.

Couldnt agree more. Allardyce is an absolute bell end! When they win its all down to his tactics and how he got them spot on but if they lose its the players fault. Cant stand the man.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2010, 10:25:03 PM
this board needs an ignore function
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: magpie seanie on May 03, 2010, 10:29:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2010, 10:25:03 PM
this board needs an ignore function

Long overdue.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: ross4life on May 03, 2010, 10:34:05 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2010, 10:25:03 PM
this board needs an ignore function

With City, Spurs Villa & even liverpool sure to be Stronger next season Arsenal has to be worried they will take the champions league spots

now try ignoring that Dinny
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: muppet on May 03, 2010, 10:35:08 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 03, 2010, 10:34:05 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2010, 10:25:03 PM
this board needs an ignore function

With City, Spurs Villa & even liverpool sure to be Stronger next season Arsenal has to be worried they will take the champions league spots

now try ignoring that Dinny

Schoolyard slagging doesn't work as well as you think it does.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: Bensars on May 03, 2010, 10:41:54 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 03, 2010, 10:34:05 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2010, 10:25:03 PM
this board needs an ignore function

With City, Spurs Villa & even liverpool sure to be Stronger next season Arsenal has to be worried they will take the champions league spots

now try ignoring that Dinny

ROSS YOU TALK SOME SH*TE SUR !

Liverpool were supposed to be stronger this year !   

Arsenal have definately improved this year. If they could get a few players they wouldnt be far away. I would be very suprised if Villa and spurs keep their momentum gained this year , through to the season end next year.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2010, 10:42:56 PM
(http://bluemooncandles.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/angry2.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: ross4life on May 03, 2010, 10:43:14 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 03, 2010, 10:35:08 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 03, 2010, 10:34:05 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2010, 10:25:03 PM
this board needs an ignore function

With City, Spurs Villa & even liverpool sure to be Stronger next season Arsenal has to be worried they will take the champions league spots

now try ignoring that Dinny

Schoolyard slagging doesn't work as well as you think it does.

No Slagging! City will spent millions, O Neill should improve villa if he stays, Spurs will love to overtake their neighbours while Liverpools target will be Champions league football next season

So where does that leave the poor mans Barcelona?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: ross4life on May 03, 2010, 10:50:12 PM
Quote from: Bensars on May 03, 2010, 10:41:54 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 03, 2010, 10:34:05 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2010, 10:25:03 PM
this board needs an ignore function

With City, Spurs Villa & even liverpool sure to be Stronger next season Arsenal has to be worried they will take the champions league spots

now try ignoring that Dinny

ROSS YOU TALK SOME SH*TE SUR !

Liverpool were supposed to be stronger this year !   

Arsenal have definately improved this year. If they could get a few players they wouldnt be far away. I would be very suprised if Villa and spurs keep their momentum gained this year , through to the season end next year.

Liverpool punched above there weight last year stronger than last year? they got 86pts & IMO  won't get the total again for many years

Arsenal have not improved almost a repeat of last season from them & are more likely to lose more top players than gain
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: Puckoon on May 03, 2010, 11:13:16 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 03, 2010, 10:43:14 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 03, 2010, 10:35:08 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 03, 2010, 10:34:05 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2010, 10:25:03 PM
this board needs an ignore function

With City, Spurs Villa & even liverpool sure to be Stronger next season Arsenal has to be worried they will take the champions league spots

now try ignoring that Dinny

Schoolyard slagging doesn't work as well as you think it does.

No Slagging! City will spent millions, O Neill should improve villa if he stays, Spurs will love to overtake their neighbours while Liverpools target will be Champions league football next season

So where does that leave the poor mans Barcelona?

I would love to ride my neighbour - but there is not much chance of it happening.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: DennistheMenace on May 03, 2010, 11:23:58 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on May 03, 2010, 11:13:16 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 03, 2010, 10:43:14 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 03, 2010, 10:35:08 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 03, 2010, 10:34:05 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2010, 10:25:03 PM
this board needs an ignore function

With City, Spurs Villa & even liverpool sure to be Stronger next season Arsenal has to be worried they will take the champions league spots

now try ignoring that Dinny

Schoolyard slagging doesn't work as well as you think it does.

No Slagging! City will spent millions, O Neill should improve villa if he stays, Spurs will love to overtake their neighbours while Liverpools target will be Champions league football next season

So where does that leave the poor mans Barcelona?

I would love to ride my neighbour - but there is not much chance of it happening.

I'm sure you'd have a chance if you just grew a set and asked him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: Puckoon on May 03, 2010, 11:26:38 PM
(http://th08.deviantart.net/fs16/300W/i/2007/210/b/1/Shock__Horror_by_super_fergus.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: ONeill on May 09, 2010, 08:22:34 PM
Happy St Totteringham's Day, be it March, April or May.

Finish the season with more points and goals as the last but could've been so much more with a decent keeper and a striker. Anyways.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: ross4life on May 09, 2010, 08:29:57 PM
Ashley Cole quote after he won the league today  "Hopefully now people won't doubt why I came here."

What does the Arsenal fan's think of that?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: ExiledGael on May 09, 2010, 08:53:01 PM
They will probably think that he has a point, for once, but he's still an arsehole.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: ONeill on May 09, 2010, 09:22:11 PM
Arsenal need to wrap RVP up in cotton wool for next season. Oozed class today.

Wenger made it clear after that he'll be addressing the defence/GK issues over the summer.

Also needs to look at why the long-term injury list is massive again.

Pluses from the year: Vermaelen, Campbell, Fabregas and the last minute goals.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: ONeill on May 09, 2010, 09:23:28 PM
Sorry the other plus was Adebayor.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: magpie seanie on May 10, 2010, 12:51:27 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 09, 2010, 09:23:28 PM
Sorry the other plus was Adebayor.

Agree completely. Well rid of that tosser.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: Billys Boots on May 10, 2010, 10:13:57 AM
Is Kevin Doyle really a Wenger target?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on May 10, 2010, 10:30:41 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 10, 2010, 12:51:27 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 09, 2010, 09:23:28 PM
Sorry the other plus was Adebayor.

Agree completely. Well rid of that t**ser.

Why??????????  Do you like getting rid of quality, world class strikers or something???

Tell me, where Arsenal any better this year without him?  What more did they achieve without him?  He had injuries this year, suspensions and the shooting incident in Angola and he still hit around 13/14 prem goals this year i think (without checking).  Plus his celebration after scoring against Arsenal at Eastlands was priceless stuff, i loved that!!

Ade Adebayor in!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: ONeill on May 18, 2010, 04:51:14 PM
Looks like Cesc more or less gone.

Would be disappointed to get less than 45-50m for him. Barca saying 30m.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: ildanach on May 18, 2010, 07:30:11 PM
I would take toure and ibrahimavoic as a swap! if not toure + 15m to buy a centre half. To tell the truth, although i will be disappointed to see cesc go. i think nasri will do a job in that position and wiltshire and ramsy have the makings of great players too! we don't really lack for creativity just defensively and fire power oh and a good keeper
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: ballinaman on June 02, 2010, 01:25:50 PM
Looks like Fab is on is way to Barca......no real surprise.

Any chance of getting a ticket for the Barca V Real games next year...jesus...gonna be some games!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: Norf Tyrone on June 02, 2010, 02:10:15 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 02, 2010, 01:25:50 PM
Looks like Fab is on is way to Barca......no real surprise.

Any chance of getting a ticket for the Barca V Real games next year...jesus...gonna be some games!

Was thinkning that myself. I'll take Real v Barce even!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Turning Choking into an Art Form....
Post by: Gaffer on June 03, 2010, 01:39:41 AM
Dinny....................Any chance of a title change?????????????????
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 05, 2010, 11:53:32 PM
Arsenal really seem to be digging the heels in here.

Cesc says he trusts Wenger will do what's right for him. The board says he's definitely not for sale.

Odd one. I thought he was a goner. Not so sure now. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on June 16, 2010, 07:55:25 PM

The new away kit


(http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/images/jun_10/gun__1276513073_awaykitemail04.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Catch the high ball on June 16, 2010, 08:02:40 PM
Not a bad shirt, I like the bits of burgundy on the sleeves and collar, gives it a retro look.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Catch the high ball on June 16, 2010, 08:07:37 PM
Is there a new home shirt for next season as well?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on June 16, 2010, 08:26:50 PM
Quote from: Catch the high ball on June 16, 2010, 08:07:37 PM
Is there a new home shirt for next season as well?

on sale from july 29
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Catch the high ball on June 16, 2010, 10:03:34 PM
Quote from: gerry on June 16, 2010, 08:26:50 PM
Quote from: Catch the high ball on June 16, 2010, 08:07:37 PM
Is there a new home shirt for next season as well?

on sale from july 29

Any previews of it?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on June 16, 2010, 10:24:22 PM
1st july
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 17, 2010, 12:15:48 AM
??

(http://www.bornprosper.com/product_images/1566-10-12-Arsenal-h-shirt.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on June 20, 2010, 07:45:56 PM
http://www.southasiablog.com/2010/06/madjid-bougherra-and-federico-marchetti.html (http://www.southasiablog.com/2010/06/madjid-bougherra-and-federico-marchetti.html)

Madjid Bougherra and Federico Marchetti on Arsenal Target List

While World Cup 2010 is going on with full swing, Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is trying his best to complete the necessary signing as early as possible. Marouane Chamakh has so far been the lone signing for the North London club and it is pretty much understandable that Arsenal is now looking for a central defender and goalkeeper.


Reports available in the media suggest that Wenger has been impressed by Algerian defender Madjid Bougherra who starred in Algeria's recent goalless stalemate with England.


Bougherra is currently playing for Scottish club Rangers. The 27-year-old has 2 more seasons left in his current contract with Rangers, but it seems Bougherra could move to Premier League if Arsenal and Rangers can reach an agreement. Wenger is reportedly lining up a £4 million bid for Madjid Bougherra.


Bougherra, though a defender, has very good attacking intent and very often contribute to his side's attack. Moreover, he is also very strong in the air thanks to his 6 feet and 3 inches height.


Meanwhile, Arsenal has been reportedly linked with Italian goalkeeper Federico Marchetti. The Cagliari keeper is currently starting for Italy in the World Cup as Gianluigi Buffon is injured out. In the race of acquiring his service, Arsenal faces competition from German club Bayern Munich.


Bayern Munich is also in search of a goalkeeper in the Summer transfer market. It seems Marchetti fits the bill very well for both Arsenal and Bayern.


Bougherra is not the only defender Arsenal has been interested in since the end of the last season. In fact, the Gunners are still tracking Lorient defender Laurent Koscielny.


When it comes to goalkeeper, Arsenal has been linked with at least half a dozen keepers including Italy's no. 1 Buffon. Most recently, Arsenal courted Fulham's Australian keeper Mark Schwarzer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on June 20, 2010, 09:18:39 PM
Will you get Fabregas printed on the back?? ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on July 01, 2010, 10:25:09 PM
Quote from: Catch the high ball on June 16, 2010, 10:03:34 PM
Quote from: gerry on June 16, 2010, 08:26:50 PM
Quote from: Catch the high ball on June 16, 2010, 08:07:37 PM
Is there a new home shirt for next season as well?

on sale from july 29

Any previews of it?




(http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/images/jun_10/gun__1277825461_newsletter_homekit_10.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 07, 2010, 10:07:45 AM
Just looking through the other threads and it prompts the question how many current or ex Arsenal players played at the World Cup?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 07, 2010, 10:17:29 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 07, 2010, 10:07:45 AM
Just looking through the other threads and it prompts the question how many current or ex Arsenal players played at the World Cup?

to start this moving :-

sagna
gallas
clichy
fabregas
van persie
anelka
gilberto
ashley cole
van bronchurst
vela
song
bendtner
diaby
eboue
senderos
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 07, 2010, 10:19:12 AM
Including HH I make it 21, practically a WC squad..

1.Sagna
2.Gallas
3.Henry
4.Clichy
5.Diaby
6.Anelka
7.Vela
8.A Cole
9.Upson
10.Song
11.Bendtner
12.Inamoto
13.RVP
14.Van Bronckhurst
15.Gilberto
16.Toure
17.Eboue
18.Kanu
19.Owusu-Abeyie
20.Fabregas
21.Senderos
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 07, 2010, 10:22:08 AM
cant believe i forgot Henry  :D Probably the best of the lot.

where did you pull Owusu-Abeyie out of ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 07, 2010, 10:25:14 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 07, 2010, 10:22:08 AM
cant believe i forgot Henry  :D Probably the best of the lot.

where did you pull Owusu-Abeyie out of ?

Me arse  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 07, 2010, 05:54:53 PM
Quote

Arsenal have signed defender Laurent Koscielny from French side Lorient.

The 24-year-old moves to north London on a long-term contract for an undisclosed fee.

Manager Arsene Wenger told Arsenal's official website: "Koscielny is a central defender with great ability who performed extremely well last season for Lorient.

"We identified him as a very strong centre-half, who has made big progress very quickly. He has shown he is mentally strong, he's a fighter and a very strong competitor. Koscielny is a great addition to our squad."

Koscielny, who will wear the number six shirt, said: "I'm very excited to be joining Arsenal. They are one of the biggest teams in Europe with many great players. I'm really looking forward to playing in the English Premier League and the Champions League with my new club.

"Also, in Arsene Wenger, Arsenal have one of the best managers in the world and I can't wait to work with him and do my best for the Arsenal supporters."

Wenger had tracked the 24-year-old for some time as Koscielny, who is also eligible to play for Poland, impressed in the French domestic league.

Anyone seen him play?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on July 12, 2010, 11:22:43 PM
Did you see the spanish players celebrating tonight in madrid ? Puyol and Pique thrust Fabregas forward and with a little help from Reina stuck a Barcelone jersey on him  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on July 12, 2010, 11:37:27 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on July 12, 2010, 11:22:43 PM
Did you see the spanish players celebrating tonight in madrid ? Puyol and Pique thrust Fabregas forward and with a little help from Reina stuck a Barcelone jersey on him  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C36LisjvNuA&feature=player_embedded   :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 14, 2010, 04:15:06 PM
Thierry signs for NY Bulls. That's the same as retired I suppose.

http://www.newyorkredbulls.com/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 17, 2010, 03:13:55 PM
No appetite for this at all but ...

Starting XI v Barnet: Fabianski, Nordtveit, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Traore, Frimpong, Rosicky, Wilshere, Arshavin, Simpson, Emmanuel-Thomas
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 17, 2010, 03:19:22 PM
Barnet 0-1 Arsenal - Arshavin gives Arsenal the lead after just two minutes
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on July 17, 2010, 03:31:37 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 17, 2010, 03:19:22 PM
Barnet 0-1 Arsenal - Arshavin gives Arsenal the lead after just two minutes

Is this FM or real?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 17, 2010, 03:31:53 PM
Barnet 0-2 Arsenal - Jay Simpson finds the bottom corner (16 mins)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 17, 2010, 04:03:06 PM
HALF-TIME: Barnet 0-3 Arsenal - Arshavin and Simpson (x2) the scorers
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 17, 2010, 04:52:37 PM
Barnet 0-4 Arsenal - Nasri slots home after Bees defender slip
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 21, 2010, 06:48:12 PM
Arsenal team: Fabianksi - Verm - Nordtveit - Djourou - Traore - Nasri - Theo - Pingpong - Wilshere - Arshavin - Chamakh
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 21, 2010, 06:49:40 PM
1-0 Arsenal, Samir Nasri
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 21, 2010, 06:51:32 PM
 Graz 0-2 Arsenal - Samir Nasri scores again, this time from a free kick (43 mins)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 21, 2010, 07:25:54 PM
 Graz 0-3 Arsenal - Henri Lansbury scores the Gunners' third (57 mins)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 21, 2010, 07:27:51 PM
Live - http://www.iraqgoals.tv/ch1.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on July 21, 2010, 08:32:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 21, 2010, 07:25:54 PM
Graz 0-3 Arsenal - Henri Lansbury scores the Gunners' third (57 mins)

Any relation to Angela?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 21, 2010, 09:36:15 PM
Son of Charlie.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on July 21, 2010, 10:20:37 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 21, 2010, 09:36:15 PM
Son of Charlie.

George?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 21, 2010, 10:25:05 PM
Foreman.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 21, 2010, 10:35:47 PM
Eduardo to Shaktar Donestk has come out of left field a wee bit.

How much was it?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on July 21, 2010, 10:37:46 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 21, 2010, 10:35:47 PM
Eduardo to Shaktar Donestk has come out of left field a wee bit.

How much was it?

6 million?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 22, 2010, 09:59:13 AM
Want a giggle on a Thursday morning?


Joe Cole 'wanted to join Tottenham' - Harry Redknapp

Harry Redknapp has revealed that new Liverpool signing Joe Cole had "wanted to come to Tottenham".

Cole, 28, joined the Reds on a free transfer this week after he was released by Chelsea in May.

"I spoke to him a month ago and I thought he was coming here," said Tottenham manager Redknapp, who managed the midfielder at West Ham.

"He wanted to come to Spurs. He'd made his mind up - I had no doubt. But a month went by and Liverpool moved in."

England international Cole signed a four-year deal with the Anfield club and will reportedly earn £90,000 per week.
   
Meanwhile, Redknapp believes Tottenham could win the Premier League this season.

The 63-year-old helped Spurs to their highest Premier League finish last season, with fourth spot also guaranteeing the club a place in the Champions League.

"I feel we could contend for the title; we have got the players here," added Redknapp.

"We have to aim for it. We could win the championship.


"Last year, we went in saying we wanted to finish in the top four and if you don't aim for things, you have no chance."

However Redknapp, whose only signing of the summer so far is Brazilian midfielder Sandro, said he would need to strengthen the squad in order to challenge strongly on both European and domestic fronts.
   
I feel that, if we can bring one or two players in, it will make a difference

Harry Redknapp

"The Champions League is massive - forget budgets - we just want to be there," stated Redknapp.

"If we can get into the group stages, we can make an impact. We have good players - some fantastic ones at our club. And they can get better.

"We are going to have to rotate at times - we cannot play the best players all the time. I feel that, if we can bring one or two players in, it will make a difference."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 27, 2010, 06:04:45 PM
Some Team v Arsenal at the min - http://iraqgoals.tv/ch112.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 27, 2010, 06:22:58 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 22, 2010, 09:59:13 AM
Want a giggle on a Thursday morning?


Joe Cole 'wanted to join Tottenham' - Harry Redknapp

Harry Redknapp has revealed that new Liverpool signing Joe Cole had "wanted to come to Tottenham".

Cole, 28, joined the Reds on a free transfer this week after he was released by Chelsea in May.

"I spoke to him a month ago and I thought he was coming here," said Tottenham manager Redknapp, who managed the midfielder at West Ham.

"He wanted to come to Spurs. He'd made his mind up - I had no doubt. But a month went by and Liverpool moved in."

England international Cole signed a four-year deal with the Anfield club and will reportedly earn £90,000 per week.
   
Meanwhile, Redknapp believes Tottenham could win the Premier League this season.

The 63-year-old helped Spurs to their highest Premier League finish last season, with fourth spot also guaranteeing the club a place in the Champions League.

"I feel we could contend for the title; we have got the players here," added Redknapp.

"We have to aim for it. We could win the championship.


"Last year, we went in saying we wanted to finish in the top four and if you don't aim for things, you have no chance."

However Redknapp, whose only signing of the summer so far is Brazilian midfielder Sandro, said he would need to strengthen the squad in order to challenge strongly on both European and domestic fronts.
   
I feel that, if we can bring one or two players in, it will make a difference

Harry Redknapp

"The Champions League is massive - forget budgets - we just want to be there," stated Redknapp.

"If we can get into the group stages, we can make an impact. We have good players - some fantastic ones at our club. And they can get better.

"We are going to have to rotate at times - we cannot play the best players all the time. I feel that, if we can bring one or two players in, it will make a difference."

Harry is always coming out with some nonsense. But the English media love him for some reason.


Fabregas sure to stay now, for this season at least, after Barca revealed their debt is now £370m. Where are UEFA now regarding clubs with high debt and denying them entry into the Champions League?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on July 27, 2010, 06:25:48 PM
QuoteThe 63-year-old helped Spurs to their highest Premier League finish last season, with fourth spot also guaranteeing the club a place in the Champions League.

It only guaranteed them a chance of getting into the Champions League via a playoff.
It be worth anything if they lost the playoff like Everton in 2005/06  :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on July 27, 2010, 06:26:14 PM
Where did you hear that Archie?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on July 27, 2010, 06:34:54 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/8859257.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/8859257.stm)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1298047/Barcelona-finances-Cesc-Fabregas-doubt.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1298047/Barcelona-finances-Cesc-Fabregas-doubt.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 28, 2010, 11:02:51 AM
Good luck to Sol at the Toon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on July 29, 2010, 01:56:22 AM
i thought with a few pound to spare we would have signed a few players, looks like another runner up season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 08, 2010, 10:02:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gaICf6cxZo&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gaICf6cxZo&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 08, 2010, 10:51:09 PM
no RVP or Fabregas  for next sunday. a winner against pool could be hard
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 08, 2010, 11:01:36 PM
Quote from: Boycey on August 08, 2010, 11:06:46 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 08, 2010, 10:02:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gaICf6cxZo&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gaICf6cxZo&feature=player_embedded)

I must be missing something, theres also one of a United fan and a City fan doing the rounds and neither of them even raised a smile with me.......

Are these the new Hitler videos???

I thought it was amusing more than funny. Sorry Boycey. It'll not happen again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 08, 2010, 11:15:18 PM
Quote from: gerry on August 08, 2010, 10:51:09 PM
no RVP or Fabregas  for next sunday. a winner against pool could be hard

Why's Van Persie out?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 08, 2010, 11:31:37 PM
not sure but read it here

http://www.arsenal.com/match-menu/3279614/first-team/legia-warsaw-v-arsenal?tab=report (http://www.arsenal.com/match-menu/3279614/first-team/legia-warsaw-v-arsenal?tab=report)


At his pre-match press conference, Wenger had admitted his side this afternoon would have little bearing on the one he'd put out at Liverpool next Sunday. Cesc Fabregas and Robin van Persie were never going to be involved (and will not travel to Anfield either) but Andrey Arshavin, Abou Diaby and Alex Song were not here either. The Russian had a small muscular problem while the other two were simply rested.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 09, 2010, 04:10:50 PM
Cannot believe Wenger has not bought a goalkeeper yet, is he turning into the nutty professor?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: ONeill on August 14, 2010, 08:48:10 AM
Yep Dinny. Sort of hoping that the Given situ means Wenger'll be in there like a shot. Still, a bit late in the day for sorting this out. Defensively worried too. See some of the goals v Legia? Check youtube. At the minute, looking like a 3rd-4th place again unless he has one-two last transfers up his sleeve.

It'd be great if Van Persie stayed fit for 30 games as well as Cesc.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2010, 09:35:48 AM
A goal-keeper and a centre back and they willl go close, just don't understand it. Should pick up a handy 3 points tomorrow though  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: AFS on August 14, 2010, 03:28:48 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 14, 2010, 08:48:10 AM
Yep Dinny. Sort of hoping that the Given situ means Wenger'll be in there like a shot. Still, a bit late in the day for sorting this out. Defensively worried too. See some of the goals v Legia? Check youtube. At the minute, looking like a 3rd-4th place again unless he has one-two last transfers up his sleeve.

It'd be great if Van Persie stayed fit for 30 games as well as Cesc.

Arsenal would be the last club City would sell Given to.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2010, 03:19:24 PM
Almunia; Sagna, Koscielny, Vermaelen, Clichy; Eboue, Nasri, Diaby, Wilshere, Arshavin; Cham

Almunia captain!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: Catch the high ball on August 15, 2010, 03:51:29 PM
Any idea where I could watch this on the net?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: The Worker on August 15, 2010, 03:58:32 PM
Arsenal 2- 0

should have enough quality for 3 points today
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 15, 2010, 03:58:53 PM
Quote from: Catch the high ball on August 15, 2010, 03:51:29 PM
Any idea where I could watch this on the net?

Sure the hurling is still on  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: muppet on August 15, 2010, 04:56:12 PM
Joe Cole sent off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 15, 2010, 05:59:54 PM
God Arsenal were awful, just as well as they were playing a huff and puff team, Chelsea, City or Man U would have all beaten that Liverpool side today though, 2 points dropped for the goons already.

A bucket of frogs would be better than Almunia, christ he is useless...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: Catch the high ball on August 15, 2010, 06:03:39 PM
Very lucky result today, good to get that game out of the way early on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2010, 06:05:05 PM
Looking like a stale season ahead. Pass pass pass pass pass pass pass
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 15, 2010, 06:21:37 PM
and pass pass pass
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2010, 11:46:30 PM
Quote from: AFS on August 14, 2010, 03:28:48 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 14, 2010, 08:48:10 AM
Yep Dinny. Sort of hoping that the Given situ means Wenger'll be in there like a shot. Still, a bit late in the day for sorting this out. Defensively worried too. See some of the goals v Legia? Check youtube. At the minute, looking like a 3rd-4th place again unless he has one-two last transfers up his sleeve.

It'd be great if Van Persie stayed fit for 30 games as well as Cesc.

Arsenal would be the last club City would sell Given to.

Why are you so sure?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: Puckoon on August 16, 2010, 12:13:22 AM
Arsenal looked pretty average today - could be a shite shite season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2010, 12:36:08 AM
Rumours of Given deal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: AFS on August 16, 2010, 12:52:06 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 15, 2010, 11:46:30 PM
Quote from: AFS on August 14, 2010, 03:28:48 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 14, 2010, 08:48:10 AM
Yep Dinny. Sort of hoping that the Given situ means Wenger'll be in there like a shot. Still, a bit late in the day for sorting this out. Defensively worried too. See some of the goals v Legia? Check youtube. At the minute, looking like a 3rd-4th place again unless he has one-two last transfers up his sleeve.

It'd be great if Van Persie stayed fit for 30 games as well as Cesc.

Arsenal would be the last club City would sell Given to.

Why are you so sure?

Why would a club, especially one with so little want for money, sell a problem position solution to one of their main competitors? It would be bizarre.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2010, 12:58:02 AM
Main competitors?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: AFS on August 16, 2010, 01:01:55 AM
For third or fourth place.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2010, 10:01:35 AM
Shay Given set for Arsenal transfer as Mark Schwarzer interest is dropped
Arsenal have cooled their interest on a potential deal to sign Fulham veteran Mark Schwarzer after opening talks with Manchester City over goalkeeper Shay Given.

The Irishman was relegated to a back-up role for City against Spurs on Saturday, and watched as England international Joe Hart put in an excellent performance to cement his first-team place.
The selection of Hart, 23, above Given, 34, looks set to herald the departure of the veteran goalkeeper, who is reluctant to be used as a back-up at this stage in his career.

However, City are not keen to sell a top-rated player who only joined from Newcastle United in January 2009 and will only sanction a loan with a recall clause.
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is more interested in securing a permanent move for Given, who he still sees as having three or four years at the top level to help bring his younger goalkeepers through.

And although the two clubs are set for an impasse this week, they are expected to thrash something out before the weekend - or, failing that, by the end of the transfer window at the latest.
The move for Given means Schwarzer, who missed Fulham's opening match of the season with a back injury, is left somewhat in limbo.

The 37-year-old had been linked with a £4million transfer to Arsenal, which appeared to be edging closer last week.
However, Wenger is said to see Given as a better replacement with more longevity and is testing the water at Eastlands before finalising any talks with new Cottagers manager Mark Hughes.

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/838143-shay-given-set-for-arsenal-transfer-as-mark-schwarzer-interest-is-dropped
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - tickets please
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on August 18, 2010, 04:19:33 PM
Well how are yous. The younger bro is looking tickets for home match round start of nov. What's the best way for him to go about doing this??

Any feedback appreciated. Could you pm me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ildanach on August 19, 2010, 02:05:41 PM
bid made for french centre back Squillaci

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Easy Start Anfield 150810
Post by: stew on August 19, 2010, 02:14:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 16, 2010, 10:01:35 AM
Shay Given set for Arsenal transfer as Mark Schwarzer interest is dropped
Arsenal have cooled their interest on a potential deal to sign Fulham veteran Mark Schwarzer after opening talks with Manchester City over goalkeeper Shay Given.

The Irishman was relegated to a back-up role for City against Spurs on Saturday, and watched as England international Joe Hart put in an excellent performance to cement his first-team place.
The selection of Hart, 23, above Given, 34, looks set to herald the departure of the veteran goalkeeper, who is reluctant to be used as a back-up at this stage in his career.

However, City are not keen to sell a top-rated player who only joined from Newcastle United in January 2009 and will only sanction a loan with a recall clause.
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is more interested in securing a permanent move for Given, who he still sees as having three or four years at the top level to help bring his younger goalkeepers through.

And although the two clubs are set for an impasse this week, they are expected to thrash something out before the weekend - or, failing that, by the end of the transfer window at the latest.
The move for Given means Schwarzer, who missed Fulham's opening match of the season with a back injury, is left somewhat in limbo.

The 37-year-old had been linked with a £4million transfer to Arsenal, which appeared to be edging closer last week.
However, Wenger is said to see Given as a better replacement with more longevity and is testing the water at Eastlands before finalising any talks with new Cottagers manager Mark Hughes.

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/838143-shay-given-set-for-arsenal-transfer-as-mark-schwarzer-interest-is-dropped

Arsenal with Given are about 5-6 points better than they would be with the clown they have now, they would be a serious side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 19, 2010, 08:40:37 PM
William Gallas having a medical at Spurs tomorrow. A reverse of Sol Campbell. Wonder if he will get as much bad manners.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ross4life on August 19, 2010, 08:48:42 PM
I wonder will spurs pay the 80,000 plus Gallas was asking for before he left the Gooners.. at 33 i can imagine only Man city would paid out those type of wages?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: Real1995 on August 20, 2010, 12:28:07 AM
Just prooves how gready he is to stoop this low.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 20, 2010, 12:35:08 AM
He's a balax. Always was. Never trusted the hoor and thought he brought a bad atmosphere to the club. Should fit in rightly at Shoite Fart Lane. Make him captain.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 01:26:48 PM
Fancy a big win v Blackpool today. Something like 5-0, 6-0, 7-0, 5-1, 6-1, 7-1 or 7-2.

Though I thought the same v Hull 2 yrs ago.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: muppet on August 21, 2010, 01:31:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 01:26:48 PM
Fancy a big win v Blackpool today. Something like 5-0, 6-0, 7-0, 5-1, 6-1, 7-1 or 7-2.

Though I thought the same v Hull 2 yrs ago.

I was thinking exactly that this morning.

Is Cesc fit to start yet?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 01:46:30 PM
He should be involved at some stage. Nasri out for a while which is a bit of a bummer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 02:13:20 PM
Arsenal team to play Blackpool: Almunia, Sagna, Song, Vermaelen, Clichy, Rosicky, Wilshere, Diaby, Walcott, Arshavin, Chamakh
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 21, 2010, 02:37:46 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 20, 2010, 12:35:08 AM
He's a balax. Always was. Never trusted the hoor and thought he brought a bad atmosphere to the club. Should fit in rightly at Shoite Fart Lane. Make him captain.

People scoffed Chelsea's cliam that he threatenend to score an OG against them if they didn't leat him leave. I'd say known what Gallas has did the last few seasons people might reconsider now. The man's a loop.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 03:09:51 PM
http://www.tvoo.eu/ch3.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 03:12:12 PM
Blackpool get forward in some numbers when they're attacking. Impressive.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 03:13:43 PM
1-0 Walcott. 12 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: paco on August 21, 2010, 03:15:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 03:13:43 PM
1-0 Walcott. 12 mins.

The wee ****! I took him out ofmy fantasy team. Now we'll see what Blackpool are made of. Alas, they nearly scored!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: gerry on August 21, 2010, 03:16:09 PM
he got a nice handy one to get the season started
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 03:25:14 PM
Should've been 3-0. Walcott playing a stormer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 03:33:22 PM
2-0 Arshavin pen. Blackpool down to 10.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: gerry on August 21, 2010, 03:36:06 PM
he should have let Chamakh take it
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: gerry on August 21, 2010, 03:40:23 PM
number two for theo
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 03:42:50 PM
3-0. Wally on form.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 03:46:09 PM
Should be 7-0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: gerry on August 21, 2010, 03:52:13 PM
blackpool should have 11 players as well
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 04:07:10 PM
4-0 Diaby

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 04:13:54 PM
Jeez Wilshere having a really crap game again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ross4life on August 21, 2010, 04:19:39 PM
A real welcome to premier league for Blackpool today if cesc & van p were playing today from the start it would be 10-0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 04:20:52 PM
5-0 Wally hattrick.

Fabregas and Van Persie on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: gerry on August 21, 2010, 04:22:34 PM
big guns on, how many Chamakh going to miss today
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ross4life on August 21, 2010, 04:25:02 PM
Walcotts best ever game for Arsenal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 04:26:15 PM
Quote from: ross4life on August 21, 2010, 04:25:02 PM
Walcotts best ever game for Arsenal?

Blackpool gave him the freedom of the field. He still managed to c**k up a few great passing moves.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 04:30:17 PM
Arsenal disjointed since the 2 big guns came on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: gerry on August 21, 2010, 04:32:46 PM
rvp should have done better there
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: gerry on August 21, 2010, 04:35:31 PM
rvp on ten minutes and he needs attention, not a good sign
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: gerry on August 21, 2010, 04:42:37 PM
on my head mate
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 04:42:46 PM
6-0 - Chamakh.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: gerry on August 21, 2010, 04:45:35 PM
tells you what sort of game it is when gunners have 22 goal attempts compared to pools 2
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 04:47:15 PM
Wonder where Bendtner fits in in all of this. The knew lad looks like a better version of what they do.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: muppet on August 21, 2010, 04:49:36 PM
Quote from: gerry on August 21, 2010, 04:45:35 PM
tells you what sort of game it is when gunners have 22 goal attempts compared to pools 2

1995 Leichtenstein 0 Republic of Ireland 0

Leichtenstein 1 goal attempt
Republic of Ireland 40 goal attempts.

Leichtenstein should have scored too.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2010, 05:13:18 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 04:47:15 PM
Wonder where Bendtner fits in in all of this. The knew lad looks like a better version of what they do.

Explain
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 05:16:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2010, 05:13:18 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 04:47:15 PM
Wonder where Bendtner fits in in all of this. The knew lad looks like a better version of what they do.

Explain

Chamakh was born in a place called knew in Malaria. Malarians don't use capital letters for proper nouns.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 05:20:07 PM
malaria sorry.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: Gaffer on August 21, 2010, 07:05:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 05:16:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2010, 05:13:18 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 04:47:15 PM
Wonder where Bendtner fits in in all of this. The knew lad looks like a better version of what they do.

Explain

Chamakh was born in a place called knew in Malaria. Malarians don't use capital letters for proper nouns.

Sorry O'Neill but you should have said 'proper adjective'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: muppet on August 21, 2010, 07:10:05 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on August 21, 2010, 07:05:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 05:16:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 21, 2010, 05:13:18 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 21, 2010, 04:47:15 PM
Wonder where Bendtner fits in in all of this. The knew lad looks like a better version of what they do.

Explain

Chamakh was born in a place called knew in Malaria. Malarians don't use capital letters for proper nouns.

Sorry O'Neill but you should have said 'proper adjective'

It's o'neill now, he's gone malarian.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: gerry on August 27, 2010, 12:29:11 AM
Ajax stopper snubs move to Arsenal (http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/7874/ajax-stopper-snubs-move-arsenal)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 28, 2010, 12:38:09 AM
ALEX FERGUSON AND SAM ALLARDYCE SLAM ARSENE WENGER

SIR Alex Ferguson and Sam Allardyce joined forces yesterday to slam Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger.
The northern army were in full march in their attack on the Frenchman as Ferguson hit back at Wenger's criticism of Paul Scholes and Allardyce insisted the Gunners used to be the "dirtiest team in the League" to raise the tempo ahead of their visit to Ewood Park today.

Ferguson was angry after Wenger claimed Paul Scholes – who, at 35, has arguably been the best player in the Premier League so far this season – has a "dark side" to his game.
Ferguson believes Wenger should keep his opinions to himself if he cannot focus on the positives of one of the greatest midfielders. "I don't know why Arsene Wenger said that," said Ferguson, whose team play West Ham today. "If you ask about someone with the ability and performance levels of Paul Scholes, you know he is not the best tackler, but he has not injured anyone.

"It's easy to look into the dark side of any player. I could say the same about one of the Arsenal players in particular, but I don't need to do that.
"He [Wenger] should focus on the strengths and abilities of someone and the contribution he has made to English football over an 18-year period. It is phenomenal."
Wenger has been critical of the robust way Allardyce's teams – Blackburn now, Bolton in the past – play, but the Rovers boss was quick to counter. "I have to remind Arsene about his own team that used to win the league, that used to be the dirtiest team in the league," he said.
"If you cast your mind back to when they used to win the league, they had more sendings-off and bookings than anyone else ever before, I think – when players like Vieira, Petit, Campbell and Keown would mix it any way you wanted to mix it.
   
"They would say, 'C'mon, what kind of game do you want to play?', and then completely dominate you whichever way you wanted to play. His change of tactics from that day to this are quite remarkable.
"He has gone from that team and changed it into a team bred on getting the ball down and passing and moving and we all agree it is the most pleasing football anyone can watch. But it is still not as good as that team he used to have that could do it anyway you wanted to win the league and the cup.
"It caused anyone huge fear whenever you faced them because you wondered, 'What way can we play to beat them?'. Now there is a way to beat them because I've done that over many matches.
"But in those days there wasn't a way you could see to get your result – you got beat. It will be a tough afternoon, they are not without players who aren't physically capable.
"Don't be suckered in by Arsene's talk they are nice, pretty team. They can stand up for themselves and can mix it if they want to mix it."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 28, 2010, 02:44:17 PM
Squeaked a 2-1 win. Another decent performance from Walcott and a well taken goal. Fabregas way off the pace and RVP's ankle gone again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ross4life on August 28, 2010, 03:23:43 PM
Not a lot wrong with the above piece, everyone knows Scholes can't tackle & Wenger can't give praise without a dig as for today RVP must be made of glass? winning in Ewood park is always a excellent result
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: ONeill on August 28, 2010, 03:28:33 PM
It was a very pleasing result, a real physical battle from start to finish.

Van Persie made of bubbles. Cesc started ahead of Rosicky but Arsenal improved late on when the switch was made. I know it's early days and he's just coming back after a long season but I hope Fabregas's head is in it this year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 29, 2010, 09:07:18 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11126887 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11126887)

Wilshere arrested, and bailed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 29, 2010, 09:41:24 PM
Jaysus what is it about young English footballers  ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 29, 2010, 11:34:14 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 29, 2010, 09:41:24 PM
Jaysus what is it about young English footballers  ???

Reading between the lines it sounds like he did little wrong. A lot of the time it's the company as opposed to the player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 29, 2010, 11:45:48 PM
Young and impressionable, hopefully he'll learn from it, a serious talent, it would be terrible see him go the way of Pennant or Bentley...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 01, 2010, 08:59:27 AM
Can't believe Wenger didn't buy a goalie, just lost for words..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 01, 2010, 09:20:51 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 01, 2010, 08:59:27 AM
Can't believe Wenger didn't buy a goalie, just lost for words..

I'll be honest, I was out all day and after Chelsea's ins and outs that's the first thing I checked when I got in last night.

Bad move.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 01, 2010, 09:58:02 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on September 01, 2010, 09:20:51 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 01, 2010, 08:59:27 AM
Can't believe Wenger didn't buy a goalie, just lost for words..

I'll be honest, I was out all day and after Chelsea's ins and outs that's the first thing I checked when I got in last night.

Bad move.

Terrible move, also-runs again this year for The Arsenal...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: lilpaulie85 on September 01, 2010, 01:59:23 PM
Shocking no sign of a keeper, could cost a top four spot if things go badly
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: ONeill on September 01, 2010, 03:55:54 PM
Almunia actually had a good season 2 years ago when they went close. He is a decent keeper but those few mistakes have made the whole defence jittery.

These days you can see the self-doubt in his face as the teams file in the tunnel before a game. His eyes start twitching, the blood drains from his face and suddenly looks like he hasn't slept in months, especially if Drogba's on the other side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: ONeill on September 01, 2010, 04:23:21 PM
Today's Arseblog -

Find a keeper, lose him weep ... er ...

Wednesday, 01 September 10, 08:06 AM

It's easy to know where the focus of this morning's blog is going to be. The lack of a new goalkeeper at the club.

Firstly, let me state for the record, I am disappointed. I thought it was vital that we bring in a new keeper this summer and I can't quite understand why we didn't. I don't think we'll ever know because Arsene is not going to tell us. He's going to talk about the 'four great keepers' he's got at the club right now and how they're all going to challenge for the number 1 spot etc etc.

It was clear last season that it was a position that was troublesome and I believed the only way to solve the problem was with the chequebook. As the summer went on and time went by it looked as if all our eggs were in one Australian basket, and so it seems. Leaving it so late meant any complications to the deal could prove very costly. In the past we've played a dangerous game with transfers, letting things go to the final day of the window in order to drive the best bargain.

From the outside (and I stress that because none of us know exactly what went on behind the scenes) it looks as if that's what happened. Fulham's inability to find a replacement and the injury to Stockdale, which will keep him out for a couple of months, meant it was almost impossible for it go through. I'm also told that the price tag Fulham put on the player, even before that, was ludicrously prohibitive. How can you deal with people who slap an eight figure fee on a 37 year old (and I don't mean £199,999.99p)? Work it out.

The bottom line is that if we had really wanted Schwarzer we should have done it much earlier. I know it was complicated due to the fact Hodgson was leaving for Liverpool and they had to find a new manager. And then when they found a new manager it was a big f**king **** but still.

Then you step back from it a bit and you think - Mark Schwarzer. A journeyman and a good professional but a player who has never attracted interest from a big side until now. Middlesbrough and Fulham for most of his career. At the start of the summer most of us would have thought that was a rather unsatisfactory answer to the goalkeeping question, by yesterday people were utterly distraught we didn't get him. I think that says a lot.

Was he the solution to Arsenal's goalkeeping problems or just a stop-gap? How many times have we heard this summer about how he could come in and do a job without getting in the way of Wojscez©® from whom big things are expected? At 37 years of age he was always going to be a temporary fix. I will fully accept that he's far better than Fabianski but his improvement over Almunia is based more on the fact that he's not Almunia rather than on his goalkeeping abilities. We needed a change for the sake of change as much as anything.

And I am disappointed, as I said, but not quite as angry as some people seem to be. I think Almunia had a terrible season last time around. There were reasons for it though. He had personal issues, the least of which was the death of a relative, which undoubtedly affected his game. And we know any player can get themselves into a run of bad form. However, I don't buy into this nonsense about him being one of the two worst keepers in the league. He's clearly not the best, not by a long way, but he's some distance off being the worst. As for him being the worst Arsenal keeper anyone has ever seen there are plenty who have watched Arsenal down the years who would beg to differ.

I think the goalkeeping problem - with regard to Almunia - has been overplayed and I think Schwarzer was overhyped as the potential solution. People wonder why we didn't just throw £4m at Fulham to get it done as if £2m is some trifling amount of money. I think even £2m for a player of his standing and his age was pushing the limit of his value. Why would you pay double that when it is just a small upgrade on what you've already got?

So I'm disappointed that we didn't sign a goalkeeper but not hugely disappointed that we didn't sign Mark Schwarzer. Had we been in for a better goalkeeper and failed to get him due to carelessness/parsimony etc then I think I'd be a lot more unhappy this morning.

My main worry is not Manuel Almunia. People wonder about his confidence and how he must feel knowing the club wanted to replace him. Personally I think it could act as a motivating factor. He knows he's got another chance and if he continues to play well then he will maintain his place in the team. I agree the whole thing might have been handled better but let's remember this - it wasn't Arsenal who were talking publicly about Schwarzer. It was Fulham. Arsene Wenger quite pointedly said nothing but 'I want to focus on the keepers I have', it was Fulham who went public then accused us of unsettling their player. Weirdos.

My real worry is Lukasz Fabianski. An injury to Almunia and it's the Pole between the sticks again and that scares the life out of me. People talk about a signing pushing Fabianski further from the team but from what I can gather had we made a signing it would have been Manuel who made way. It was Almunia for whom vague offers came this summer. Nobody, quite understandably, made any enquiries about Fabianski.

So even if we'd signed Schwarzer we'd be in a situation where Fabianski is a broken finger or a dodgy groin away from a run in the team. And that is what worries most of all about the Arsenal goalkeeping situation. At the moment we have four keepers. Lower division clubs have until the end of next week to finalise their squads and get players in on loan. It's quite conceivable that Wojscez©® could go out on loan again for the season. Certainly he or Mannone will go. If it's the Italian then I have some hope that the younger Pole will challenge Fabianski strongly for the number 2 position. Otherwise I fear it's Lukasz again.

And with the best will in the world he is to goalkeeping what the Keystone Cops were to copping. A slapstick Polish Basil Fawlty with an unparalleled record in high profile, comedy mistakes almost every time he gets a game for us. That is my goalkeeping worry.

I can't claim to come close to understanding the manager over this one. I wouldn't even try. I can fully understand people's ire and fingers will undoubtedly be pointed, in a very pointy way, at him every time anything approaching a goalkeeping mistake is made. But the same manager who hasn't bought a keeper is the same manager who bought Chamakh and Koscielny, who people seem to approve of, the same manager who is overseeing Theo Walcott's upsurge in form, the same manager who assured the future of Cesc at the club and who brought his team to Blackburn and won last weekend. A little give and take is required.

Like it or not, and I know many don't, we have what we have right now. I read some pretty angry stuff around the place yesterday which, as I said, I understand. I don't understand anyone wanting us to fail however. I don't understand anyone who wants this team to do badly or for players to play badly just so they can say I told you so.

What I'm hoping for is that Almunia, instilled with the confidence of knowing he's number 1 and with a resolute determination to hold on to that position, plays more like the Manuel Almunia from the couple of seasons before last. A fine shot stopper, a good pelanty saver and a generally decent keeper even if he's never going to be the most commanding. Yes, he was capable of the odd mistake but then so is every goalkeeper. It might actually be interesting to run some kind of keeper f**k-up watch throughout the season.

We might also find that an Arsenal team that is better defensively might lead to better goalkeeping. And above all else I hope he stays injury free because it's what lies beneath that worries me most of all.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next up the real Pool - 210810
Post by: AZOffaly on September 01, 2010, 05:23:29 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on August 29, 2010, 11:34:14 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 29, 2010, 09:41:24 PM
Jaysus what is it about young English footballers  ???

Reading between the lines it sounds like he did little wrong. A lot of the time it's the company as opposed to the player.

£££££££££ is what's wrong with young English footballers. They're told from when they are 14 that they are great, they have agents telling them they're the best thing since sliced bread, and if they make it they get pay packets that no human being needs at this stage.

They're targetted by hanger ons, and the media are all over them, because of the money.

Finally, they are young guys, from working class backgrounds in a lot of cases, who have more money than they've ever dreamed of. It's not surprising some of them go off the rails a bit. In fairness, there's a lot who don't.

I think the PFA should operate a trust fund for them until they are 25 at least. Give them a salary capped at 5k a week (the poor things) and put the rest of their salary into a blue chip investment fund. When they reach 25 they can then access all their back wages, including interest/returns.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: paco on September 07, 2010, 07:50:30 PM
Bad news, RVP injured again:

ttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1309881/Robin-van-Persie-injury-rocks-Arsenal-striker-ruled-weeks.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: gerry on September 07, 2010, 08:38:12 PM
theo stretcher off tonight in the england game, away for a x ray on his ankle
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: ONeill on September 07, 2010, 08:42:56 PM
Honestly. They're feckin made of paper down at the Emirates.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: ross4life on September 07, 2010, 08:53:52 PM
I think Owen Hargreaves is available on free transfer next Summer i wonder will Wenger be interested?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 11, 2010, 04:04:59 PM
Another long ball another goal conceded...

The fish in goals is playing well though...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 11, 2010, 04:23:26 PM
Is there a dumber footballer than Kevin Davies, on a yellow, the Arsenal fans baying for his blood and he's still throwing himself into stupid tackles, will be surprised if sees the game out...

Gary Cahill sent off, stupid tackle but not a red didn't seem that much intent in it...referee is very weak and bows to the Arsenal players and fans demands...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: ross4life on September 11, 2010, 04:28:13 PM
I think that chap in crowd ate all the pies  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 11, 2010, 04:36:59 PM
Delicious finish from Song  :o

Should be the game for the Gooners unless they collapse like the has-beens earlier on..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: ross4life on September 11, 2010, 04:39:56 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 11, 2010, 04:36:59 PM
Delicious finish from Song  :o

Should be the game for the Gooners unless they collapse like the has-beens earlier on..

Don't worry the young pretenders should hold out
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 11, 2010, 04:41:46 PM
olé olé olé olé olé olé olé olé olé olé olé olé olé olé olé olé olé olé olé olé  goal

Vela the best Mexican striker in the league....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2010, 09:50:35 PM
Another good win. Tell you this, all the Wenger whining is working. Rarely does a team finish with 11 men against Arsenal .

Defence fairly small? Looked that way for the Bolton goal. Almunia's some craic.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 11, 2010, 10:01:12 PM
In fairness the biggest whinger today was the co-commentator Stewart Robson hard to believe he works for Arsenal TV, moaned about Wenger, the fans, the ref, he just moaned moaned moaned almost made me miss Lou Macari...

Will be interesting to see if Wolves or Stoke can keep 11 men on the pitch in the Emirates...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2010, 10:28:24 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 11, 2010, 10:01:12 PM
In fairness the biggest whinger today was the co-commentator Stewart Robson hard to believe he works for Arsenal TV, moaned about Wenger, the fans, the ref, he just moaned moaned moaned almost made me miss Lou Macari...


Is that right? What kind of stuff was he saying?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 11, 2010, 11:07:54 PM
It was cringeworthy but it was seems to be Setanta policy when Arsenal are playing big up the Arsenal/Wenger whinge factor anyhow Robson had a go at Squillaci and his ability, that the Arsenal players were winning soft frees and make meals out of the slightest touch, a had right pop at whinging Wenger (his words), Fabregas and Eboue, claimed the fans were trying to get players sent off (well never) and that they don't like their players been tackled hard, he then defended an awful tackle on Diaby by that liitle runt Robinson, Diaby left injured because of it....

Had to turn the sound off as it was just too negative, it was like listening to Martin Carney or some other RTE buffon...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2010, 11:19:25 PM
What about Squillaci? What did you (and Robson) think?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Next Up Bolton - 110910
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 11, 2010, 11:32:14 PM
Robson didn't say much about anything really I thought Squillaci was tidy, just did simple things well, good positioning and quietly effective, good debut will get sharper with games and can see him as 1st choice ahead of Koscielny..

But it was Chamakh and Arshavin would stood out today, Chamakh is a good player and is settling in quicker than I thought, the little Russian is showing good form too. Gibbs is close to being 1st choice left back very solid today..

Considering none of RVP, Clichy, Sagna, Vermaelen, Nasri, Bendtner, Diaby, Ramsey, Denilison, Walcott started then the Arsenal squad is looking very strong, if only the Goons had someone to replace the fish in goals (who in fairness was solid today)...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 11, 2010, 11:50:17 PM
24 passes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on September 12, 2010, 12:29:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 11, 2010, 11:50:17 PM
24 passes.

Did you score?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 15, 2010, 08:45:34 PM
Same old Arsenal. Liquid football in September and maybe October.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on September 15, 2010, 09:01:58 PM
Did you hear Eamo before the game? "Braga are excellent in defence.. Arsenal will do well to break them down" 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on September 15, 2010, 09:04:59 PM
Watching the Real Madrid game. On this scoreline, it's hard to believe that Braga beat Sevilla at home and away. Have they threatened at all?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on September 15, 2010, 09:16:57 PM
Porto got a 5-0 beating off Arse in March & now Braga are getting the same.. maybe more?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 15, 2010, 09:26:31 PM
Quote from: paco on September 15, 2010, 09:04:59 PM
Watching the Real Madrid game. On this scoreline, it's hard to believe that Braga beat Sevilla at home and away. Have they threatened at all?

Zero. Showed one glimpse of counter attacking football around 12 minutes but that was it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 15, 2010, 09:38:15 PM
Great football and a great result
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 17, 2010, 10:05:04 PM
Some fine debate over the last few days concerning Wenger's criticism of English football and their acceptance of dangerous tackling. Good arguments on both sides (well, Wenger v Allardyce, Pullis, Redknapp, Mick Quinn). That was until Allardyce came out with this! (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/17092010/58/premier-league-allardyce-m-suited-real.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EagleLord on September 18, 2010, 12:35:35 AM
Thought Gunners were a different class the other night, love watching that sexy football. Cant for the life of me think why I dont support them, but I have got stuck with Liverpool since I was a kid, and gotta stick it out. Poor me haha! Love that kid Vela, knew he was a good when I first saw him! Hes very fond of that wee dink finish. My favourite type of goal, I could watch it all day long.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 18, 2010, 08:35:18 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 17, 2010, 10:05:04 PM
Some fine debate over the last few days concerning Wenger's criticism of English football and their acceptance of dangerous tackling. Good arguments on both sides (well, Wenger v Allardyce, Pullis, Redknapp, Mick Quinn). That was until Allardyce came out with this! (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/17092010/58/premier-league-allardyce-m-suited-real.html)

Fat Sam is getting a lot of grief for this but the point he is making seems lost, the resources available at the Madrids, Barcas, Milans and until recently the Chelseas and Man U meant that managing those teams from a footballing perspective would be pretty easy and you would almost guranteed to be there or thereabouts every year. Obviously managing egos, expectations, media etc would be a different skill one certainily Allardyce doesn't have...

Also the whole thing about Wenger and refs is very valid, Wenger has now got the Arsenal fans going mental at the slightest touch of his players, they seem to get in quite a frenzy, stokes up atmosphere and puts pressure on the ref. Anyone watching the Bolton game could see a red card coming because the ref just lost the plot and poor Cahill got sent for a nothing tackle really...

Wenger/Fergie really do have the media in their pockets...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on September 18, 2010, 07:27:04 PM
Poor display by Gooners today, Sunderland got lucky with the late late goal & the missed peno which kinda made up for that freak goal but they deserved at least a draw
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 21, 2010, 09:30:55 PM
extra time looming
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on September 21, 2010, 09:34:07 PM
Gees would youse ever get some men in the box to support the men running through!!

Midfielders running out the wings and all the strikers behind them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 21, 2010, 09:47:53 PM
thats better
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 21, 2010, 10:00:17 PM
Why was that wee Spurs lad crying in the crowd? Is he tired?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 21, 2010, 10:03:08 PM
Have missed most of this, sure I can always buy the DVD...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 21, 2010, 10:04:26 PM
he knows he has to go to school tomorrow and meet his junior gunners schoolmates
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 21, 2010, 10:05:34 PM
Ole x 125.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 21, 2010, 10:09:07 PM
Redknapp on twitching overload.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 21, 2010, 10:11:49 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 21, 2010, 10:05:34 PM
Ole x 125.
we not be doing that in two weeks time against Chelsea
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on September 21, 2010, 10:13:44 PM
Judging by the subs Wenger has made in this match does it mean he's gonna take this competition more serious this season?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 21, 2010, 10:13:52 PM
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg843/scaled.php?tn=0&server=843&filename=n8qg.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on September 21, 2010, 10:17:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 21, 2010, 10:13:52 PM
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg843/scaled.php?tn=0&server=843&filename=n8qg.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)

He's from County Down. Life's hard at the moment !!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 21, 2010, 10:19:18 PM
Fearon just ate his Snickers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 03:52:45 PM
Looking like one of those days. 0-0 at HT at home to WBA. It'd be criminal tp drops points the day Chelsea lose.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on September 25, 2010, 04:01:51 PM
TBH could be a goal & man down at half time
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 04:03:49 PM
Quote from: ross4life on September 25, 2010, 04:01:51 PM
TBH could be a goal & man down at half time

Could be 5 up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on September 25, 2010, 04:06:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 04:03:49 PM
Quote from: ross4life on September 25, 2010, 04:01:51 PM
TBH could be a goal & man down at half time

Could be 5 up.

Could be worse, could be Liverpool.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 04:09:26 PM
Arsenal's defence shaky as feck. Look like conceding.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 04:10:48 PM
....and there it is
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 04:12:09 PM
Sagna a bollix.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 04:12:59 PM
0-2 now. Almunia a bollix.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on September 25, 2010, 04:15:29 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 25, 2010, 04:06:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 04:03:49 PM
Quote from: ross4life on September 25, 2010, 04:01:51 PM
TBH could be a goal & man down at half time

Could be 5 up.

Could be worse, could be Liverpool.

Wasn't Liverpool's only win vs West Brom
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 04:17:10 PM
Wilshere and Rosicky on now please.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on September 25, 2010, 04:17:29 PM
Quote from: ross4life on September 25, 2010, 04:15:29 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 25, 2010, 04:06:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 04:03:49 PM
Quote from: ross4life on September 25, 2010, 04:01:51 PM
TBH could be a goal & man down at half time

Could be 5 up.

Could be worse, could be Liverpool.

Wasn't Liverpool's only win vs West Brom

Ever?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 04:19:07 PM
Badly miss Fabragas's coolness.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Yes I Would on September 25, 2010, 05:02:06 PM
And badly need Almunia just to stay at home from now on.. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on September 25, 2010, 05:06:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 04:19:07 PM
Badly miss Fabragas's coolness.

He doesn't play in goal though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on September 25, 2010, 05:20:29 PM
Given might be available in January. Are West Brom now the new Hull only 1 point off 2nd place after beating Arsenal away 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 07:11:11 PM
FUBAR
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 25, 2010, 08:15:43 PM
I don't understand was West Brom not one of the 'easy' games that Chelsea had? I think West Ham (A) that was another 'easy' one too!

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 08:21:41 PM
Who is that aimed at on this thread?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on September 25, 2010, 08:23:52 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on September 25, 2010, 08:15:43 PM
I don't understand was West Brom not one of the 'easy' games that Chelsea had? I think West Ham (A) that was another 'easy' one too!

3 points down on last years total after 6 games! must be a little worried Norf?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 25, 2010, 09:56:31 PM
yet to see the game but it was a bad day at the office.  can't see city selling given to us come jan
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 10:02:25 PM
Almunia's performance was beyond a joke although he wasn't helped by the likes of Sagna and Song.

Make sure you watch his positioning for the third goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 25, 2010, 10:22:29 PM
what has happen from the spurs game untill today
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 25, 2010, 10:34:40 PM
motd  on now, can i watch it
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 25, 2010, 10:36:29 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on September 25, 2010, 08:15:43 PM
I don't understand was West Brom not one of the 'easy' games that Chelsea had? I think West Ham (A) that was another 'easy' one too!

Eh! Ross4life is normally found on the Has Beens thread, no point in posting that here as the Gooners still have the bucket of frogs in goal so ever game is a test...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 25, 2010, 10:41:02 PM
feck me fist two goals poor defending and goal keeping, only one more to see
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 25, 2010, 10:46:46 PM
third one, what was Almunia  thinking
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 25, 2010, 10:48:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 08:21:41 PM
Who is that aimed at on this thread?

Almunia. But he missed it.

Quote from: ross4life on September 25, 2010, 08:23:52 PM
3 points down on last years total after 6 games! must be a little worried Norf?
[/quote]

I thought your theory was comparative results. 5 points up on that total Rossy. Looking good.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 10:52:15 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on September 25, 2010, 10:48:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 08:21:41 PM
Who is that aimed at on this thread?

Almunia. But he missed it.



Still don't understand. Who said this 'easy' thing?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on September 25, 2010, 10:55:42 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 25, 2010, 10:36:29 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on September 25, 2010, 08:15:43 PM
I don't understand was West Brom not one of the 'easy' games that Chelsea had? I think West Ham (A) that was another 'easy' one too!

Eh! Ross4life is normally found on the Has Beens thread, no point in posting that here as the Gooners still have the bucket of frogs in goal so ever game is a test...

If i had a penny for every time i heard united are has been's finished etc..i would be a rich man now as for Arsenal i suppose you think the reason why they haven't won anything for 5 years & counting is because of goalkeeping problems
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on September 25, 2010, 11:07:36 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on September 25, 2010, 10:48:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 25, 2010, 08:21:41 PM
Who is that aimed at on this thread?

Almunia. But he missed it.

Quote from: ross4life on September 25, 2010, 08:23:52 PM
3 points down on last years total after 6 games! must be a little worried Norf?

I thought your theory was comparative results. 5 points up on that total Rossy. Looking good.
[/quote]

Nope i think Magpie Seanie was doing comparative results but on depressing week for Chelsea FC whatever makes you happy  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 26, 2010, 11:57:02 AM
Henry in trouble over in MLS. Accidently injures goalkeeper when celebrating a teammate's goal. Plenty of YouTube clips.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 28, 2010, 07:32:25 PM
anybody 50p for the lights
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 28, 2010, 08:16:31 PM
Same old story. 1-0 up, should be 4.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 28, 2010, 08:19:07 PM
...and of course Denilson handles it. Penalty 1-1.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 28, 2010, 08:21:38 PM
Soft penality
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 28, 2010, 09:00:46 PM
Softer penalty
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 28, 2010, 09:01:31 PM
maybe.  need to put this to bed now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 28, 2010, 09:03:02 PM
Fruits.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 28, 2010, 09:11:01 PM
Denilson- not good enough.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 28, 2010, 09:12:50 PM
if we cannot shut this out tonight, this sunday could be scary come 4pm
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 28, 2010, 09:26:39 PM
3-1. Still fruits though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on September 28, 2010, 09:33:37 PM
So two games in Arsenal/Chelsea have more or less secured passage to the next round while Spurs & manu have it all to do
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 28, 2010, 09:38:18 PM
In reality, any team worth its salt should have 6 points by now in the league stage.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 03, 2010, 04:39:32 PM
Was thinking that an acceptable scenario would be a narrow defeat whilst showing a good deal of backbone. Getting the latter so far. 0-0 after 35.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 03, 2010, 04:41:58 PM
...and Drogba scores. His first goal ever v Arsenal I think.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on October 03, 2010, 05:22:15 PM
That should have been game over.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 03, 2010, 06:05:11 PM
Marginally better. Missed Fabregas today esp with all that possession. Rarely troubled Cech. What the feck has happened Song? Can't ride a tackle nor make one.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on October 03, 2010, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 03, 2010, 04:41:58 PM
...and Drogba scores. His first goal ever v Arsenal I think.

Classic ONeill  :D & Tevez loves to play v Chelsea
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 03, 2010, 10:12:39 PM
Diaby - not good enough
Denilson - not good enough
Song - lost form completely
Sagna - Lost it
Clichy - lost it
Bendtner - dungbag
RVP - made of daisies
Eboue - liability
Goalkeepers - jaysus
Chamack - underwhelming
Squillachi - no
Vela - scores against Huddersfield

Nasri, Vermaelan, Cesc and Rosicky are winners.

Walcott makes a difference.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 03, 2010, 10:56:28 PM
QuoteNasri, Vermaelan, Cesc and Rosicky are winners.

you include Arshavin in this as well i guess
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 03, 2010, 10:58:29 PM
Quote from: gerry on October 03, 2010, 10:56:28 PM
QuoteNasri, Vermaelan, Cesc and Rosicky are winners.

you include Arshavin in this as well i guess

Not sure about him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 15, 2010, 09:05:40 PM
Theo back for tomorrow so hopefully he can start back by scoring a few goals that we have being missing. Cesc back for tuesday hopefully.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 15, 2010, 10:12:43 PM
King Bendtner back. 30 goals by Christmas.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on October 15, 2010, 10:15:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 15, 2010, 10:12:43 PM
King Bendtner back. 30 goals by Christmas.

He probably won't get enough reserve games to reach that total.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 15, 2010, 10:56:43 PM
City in a fortnight could be fun
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 15, 2010, 11:06:03 PM
Yea, but it's time Arsenal won a 'big' game.

Still think Diaby, Denilson, Walcott, Sagna, Clichy etc crap themselves v the best teams.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 16, 2010, 12:53:18 AM
agree there is no point in winning against lower teams when you can not make it against the top 4
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on October 16, 2010, 07:21:11 PM
Excellent set of results for the Gooners today, what do you guys make of the Chamakh dive for the penalty?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on October 17, 2010, 02:21:04 AM
Quote from: ross4life on October 16, 2010, 07:21:11 PM
Excellent set of results for the Gooners today, what do you guys make of the Chamakh dive for the penalty?

Hard to decide between the Oscar, the All-Star or Solvency.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 19, 2010, 09:33:05 AM
With Man City looming on the horizon I wonder if Wenger will give the likes of Bendtner a start tonight. The Great Dane hasn't lost any of that unshakeable self confidence during the recovery and reckons he'll net 20 before the end of the season. I suppose he's under pressure to perform now. He's not the first choice CF when RVP is out any more.

Sort of hope he doesn't give Cesc a game. Badly need him injury free v City.

Eduardo says he won't celebrate if he scores tonight. He's gonna score.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 19, 2010, 07:07:56 PM
Arsenal team: Fabianski, Eboue, Squillaci, Djourou, Clichy, Song, Wilshere, Fabregas, Rosicky, Nasri, Chamakh

subs: Wojscez, Diaby, Walcott, Gibbs, Arshavin, Denilson, Bendtner.

Eduardo starts on the bench for Shaktar
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on October 19, 2010, 07:09:28 PM
I didn't even know arse sold Eduardo
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 19, 2010, 07:33:27 PM
Jaysus - catch Keown on TV3 - Planet of the Apes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 19, 2010, 07:36:33 PM
well oneill whats the score going to be tonight
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 19, 2010, 07:40:46 PM
Strong team. 3-1 or 4-1 though know feck all about opposition.

Fancy a Nasri double.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 19, 2010, 07:43:18 PM
2 1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 19, 2010, 08:04:47 PM
close
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Sean O Grady on October 19, 2010, 08:06:06 PM
1-0 Song the scorer
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 19, 2010, 08:07:10 PM
closer, another goalie fecked up
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 19, 2010, 08:28:54 PM
2-0 Nasri.

He has been Arsenal's POTY so far.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 19, 2010, 08:30:14 PM
could see a few subs soon
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 19, 2010, 08:39:27 PM
Yep, would like to see Cesc off and the Bender on as well as Wally.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 19, 2010, 08:56:42 PM
wally warming up
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 19, 2010, 09:05:44 PM
Denilson - yawn.

Good to see Eduardo on. Wouldn't mind seeing him net one.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 19, 2010, 09:07:55 PM
nice goal jack
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on October 19, 2010, 09:28:50 PM
I see arse 3rd goal was a penalty so how many penalties have arse got this season now?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 19, 2010, 09:37:46 PM
622.

Who makes way when RVP comes back, or even Walcott? Nasri's playing well. Chamack is working well. Wilshere has been best central midfielder. Rosicky I suppose. Will he play Van P behind Cham?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on October 19, 2010, 09:40:38 PM
When is RVP due back anyway?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 19, 2010, 09:52:09 PM
mid november
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on October 20, 2010, 02:39:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 19, 2010, 09:37:46 PM
622.

Who makes way when RVP comes back, or even Walcott? Nasri's playing well. Chamack is working well. Wilshere has been best central midfielder. Rosicky I suppose. Will he play Van P behind Cham?

Planning for an RVP comeback is like organising a BBQ in Ireland months in advance.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on October 20, 2010, 02:42:09 PM
Quote from: gerry on October 19, 2010, 09:52:09 PM
mid november

What year?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 20, 2010, 07:12:22 PM
FFS - Van Persie injury jinx strikes again - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1hvKYOnhLQ&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 24, 2010, 06:08:32 PM
Nasri is playing great stuff at the minute.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 24, 2010, 07:41:54 PM
Another great performance today. Although for a while i thought the second goal was never going to come.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 24, 2010, 08:54:34 PM
Liked Fabregas's attitude afterwards. He dismissed the importance of the win in terms of title credentials - the same crap Sky journos come out with at this time of year with Arsenal.

Nasri has been a star all year though he can still be found wanting on the back foot. Chamakh gets through some work and holds the ball up well. Don't think he'll be a prolific striker. Good to see the Bender back. His ratio is a goal every 15 mins this season! Also, Flappyhandski hasn't put a glove wrong in weeks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 24, 2010, 09:40:10 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 24, 2010, 08:54:34 PM
Liked Fabregas's attitude afterwards. He dismissed the importance of the win in terms of title credentials - the same crap Sky journos come out with at this time of year with Arsenal.

Nasri has been a star all year though he can still be found wanting on the back foot. Chamakh gets through some work and holds the ball up well. Don't think he'll be a prolific striker. Good to see the Bender back. His ratio is a goal every 15 mins this season! Also, Flappyhandski hasn't put a glove wrong in weeks.

Cesc appears hell-bent on Carling Cup glory.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 24, 2010, 10:00:49 PM
That's true. Think he wants to lift anything this year as captain.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 27, 2010, 06:48:28 PM
We don't know all the details of Wenger's team for St James' Park. But this much has been established:

- The squad is '80 per cent' first-team and will be at least as strong as the one fielded at White Hart Lane in the last round.
- Theo Walcott, Nicklas Bendtner and Laurent Koscielny are likely to start
- Keeper Wojciech Szczesny will definitely start
- Youngsters Jay Emmanuel-Thomas, Craig Eastmond and Henri Lansbury are in the squad
- A few members of the first-team squad will be rested
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2010, 07:25:40 PM
Newcastle: Krul, Perch, Williamson, Kadar, Ryan Taylor, Routledge, Guthrie, Smith, Vuckic, Lovenkrands, Ranger.
Subs: Soderberg, Coloccini, Jose Enrique, Barton, Carroll, Gutierrez, Tiote.

Arsenal: Szczesny, Eboue, Djourou, Koscielny, Gibbs, Denilson, Eastmond, Rosicky, Walcott, Bendtner, Vela.
Subs: Fabianski, Sagna, Fabregas, Arshavin, Emmanuel-Thomas, Lansbury, Nordtveit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 27, 2010, 07:26:22 PM
i see the big guns on the bench just incase

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on October 27, 2010, 07:32:59 PM
Would any of that Arse starting 11 tonight be classed as first teamers?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2010, 07:43:55 PM
At full strength Koscielny and Walcott.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2010, 07:50:24 PM
Vela should've scored after 15 secs.

Forced three saves in three mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 27, 2010, 07:57:08 PM
some shots at goal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2010, 07:58:48 PM
Gibbs plays like Cole at that age.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 27, 2010, 08:01:35 PM
let of there
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2010, 08:02:41 PM
Did he just say that Smith hasn't scored for 90 games? (or 19?)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 27, 2010, 08:06:10 PM
90 games, feck he went of the boil.  some shot though
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2010, 08:27:19 PM
He is rubbish...

What is the deal with Emmanuel Eboue? He comes across, when he plays , as an asolute eejit.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2010, 08:30:23 PM
He appears to be the most popular player in the squad but you're right, he's an eejit. Sort of fella who'll make a Maradona-esque run and then do something ridiculous with it at the end. Still, creates openings.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on October 27, 2010, 08:32:48 PM
FFS crazy OG
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 27, 2010, 08:34:05 PM
it will do but
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on October 27, 2010, 08:35:21 PM
cracker
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2010, 08:35:43 PM
Bendtner will say he knew what he was doing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 27, 2010, 09:00:09 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 27, 2010, 08:35:43 PM
Bendtner will say he knew what he was doing.

for the second goal to
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2010, 09:02:31 PM
That's typical of Bender. He could have caused a perfectly good goal to be wiped out for being an ass.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 27, 2010, 09:15:14 PM
fab getting some game time
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2010, 09:20:43 PM
Why do commentators call Rosicky 'Ro zi ski'?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2010, 09:28:12 PM
Bendtner is Socrates.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 27, 2010, 09:28:38 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 27, 2010, 08:35:43 PM
Bendtner will say he knew what he was doing.

like
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2010, 09:34:04 PM
4-0.

Walcott - low and hard like a terrior's tool.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on October 27, 2010, 09:34:44 PM
wally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2010, 09:37:05 PM
Joey Barton's some cnut.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on October 27, 2010, 09:38:21 PM
Was never a 0-4 game Newcastle deserved better but saying that it's hard to see how they beat Chelsea in Stamford bridge?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2010, 09:40:12 PM
Chesney looked good in goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on October 27, 2010, 09:55:06 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 27, 2010, 09:20:43 PM
Why do commentators call Rosicky 'Ro zi ski'?

Ro-zit-ski
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2010, 09:57:07 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 27, 2010, 09:55:06 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 27, 2010, 09:20:43 PM
Why do commentators call Rosicky 'Ro zi ski'?

Ro-zit-ski

And is that correct?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on October 28, 2010, 09:48:46 AM
Arsenal some price last night @ 5/6!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on October 28, 2010, 11:01:35 AM
Walcott scores 2 goals against mediocre opposition . . . could he be the new Chicarito/Mexican Pelé. . .
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on October 28, 2010, 01:44:14 PM
Quote from: screenexile on October 28, 2010, 11:01:35 AM
Walcott scores 2 goals against mediocre opposition . . . could he be the new Chicarito/Mexican Pelé. . .

Wrong thread.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 28, 2010, 01:49:14 PM
Did anyone else hear the rumour that Chris Hughton had to win the game last night to keep his job?  WTF?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on October 28, 2010, 02:40:56 PM
Quote from: screenexile on October 28, 2010, 11:01:35 AM
Walcott scores 2 goals against mediocre opposition . . . could he be the new Chicarito/Mexican Pelé. . .

In the last 5 months Javier Hernández has scored v Chelsea,Valencia,France,Spain,Netherlands & Argentina yes very mediocre opposition  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 28, 2010, 05:29:07 PM
Quote from: ross4life on October 28, 2010, 02:40:56 PM
Quote from: screenexile on October 28, 2010, 11:01:35 AM
Walcott scores 2 goals against mediocre opposition . . . could he be the new Chicarito/Mexican Pelé. . .

In the last 5 months Javier Hernández has scored v Chelsea,Valencia,France,Spain,Netherlands & Argentina yes very mediocre opposition  ::)

Wrong thread, anyway he is a poor man's Vela...by the way that goal against Chelese was just a deflection of him...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on October 28, 2010, 05:42:22 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 28, 2010, 05:29:07 PM
Quote from: ross4life on October 28, 2010, 02:40:56 PM
Quote from: screenexile on October 28, 2010, 11:01:35 AM
Walcott scores 2 goals against mediocre opposition . . . could he be the new Chicarito/Mexican Pelé. . .

In the last 5 months Javier Hernández has scored v Chelsea,Valencia,France,Spain,Netherlands & Argentina yes very mediocre opposition  ::)

Wrong thread, anyway he is a poor man's Vela...by the way that goal against Chelese was just a deflection of him...

All goals count! i just hope he's not another Vela & his goals per games for Mexico would suggest he's not  :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2010, 02:38:01 PM
Arsenal: Fabianski, Sagna, Squillaci, Koscielny, Clichy, Song, Denilson, Nasri, Fabregas, Arshavin, Chamakh.
Subs: Szczesny, Rosicky, Vela, Walcott, Djourou, Eboue, Bendtner.

West Ham: Green, Jacobsen, da Costa, Gabbidon, Ilunga, Parker, Behrami, Noble, Boa Morte, Obinna, Piquionne.
Subs: Stech, Reid, Tomkins, Cole, Barrera, Kovac, Faubert.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2010, 03:27:29 PM
Arsenal stale so far. West Ham playing well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2010, 04:13:17 PM
Arsenal could well lose this. 0-0 after 53. The Hammers surprisingly composed on the ball.

Crying out for Wally and Bender.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2010, 04:26:20 PM
Walcott for Denilson 66 mins. 0-0.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2010, 04:31:49 PM
Walcott beats the keeper but not the post. 0-0 72 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2010, 04:38:46 PM
Bendtner on for Arshavin. 79 mins.

West Ham have defended brilliantly.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2010, 04:46:08 PM
0-0 86 mins.

Rob Green having a stormer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Ludraman on October 30, 2010, 04:50:50 PM
det got 1 but so did chelsea who will win de leage anyway. no?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2010, 04:51:02 PM
Song scores 88 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2010, 05:06:39 PM
Very dogged display from West Ham but they lack creativity in the last 3rd. Super game from Parker.

Good result though, Cesc who was patchy today reflected the team performance. Looks like Clichy is finally finding some form too...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2010, 05:21:54 PM
Phew! Some relief that goal. Song seems to be popping up like that. Chelsea would've been 7 ahead already. Need to keep pace and bate them at Ashburton.

Agree about Cesc and, at last, Clichy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on October 30, 2010, 05:24:19 PM
Couple of great saves from Green in the first half kept the hammers in it for so long.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2010, 08:34:58 PM
And another Black November begins.

Arsenal 2-1 down to Shaktar at HT. Brilliant Henry-esque goal from Walcott put the Gunners one up. Eduardo, class as always, puts his crowd ahead in injury time, doesn't celebrate.


Clichy being the dick.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2010, 09:57:31 PM
Clichy at fault for that. Poor games from Eastmond and Bendtner.

Hopefully the fellows resting at home will make it worthwhile against the Toon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Family guy on November 03, 2010, 10:24:11 PM
What was clichy at??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2010, 10:29:49 PM
He does that too often now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 05, 2010, 07:09:51 PM
Rvp back at full training and now we have a club country row starting.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 06, 2010, 10:22:58 AM
Arsene you dirty dog.

(http://a.yfrog.com/img522/5974/nkyr.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 06, 2010, 10:28:09 AM
O'Neill I thought this thread had more class than that....who cares really  ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 06, 2010, 10:29:56 AM
Wenger speaks out over allegations

(UKPA) – 17 minutes ago

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has spoken out after allegations concerning his private life were carried in a national newspaper.
The football manager said the claims were a "serious matter" that he wished to deal with "privately".

Arsenal Football Club echoed the sentiment, calling for Wenger and his family's privacy to be respected.
The comments follow a front page article in The Sun containing allegations surrounding the 61-year-old's personal life.

Responding to the story, Wenger said in a statement: "This is a very serious matter. I do not intend to make any comment and wish to deal with the matter privately."

A club statement read: "Arsenal Football Club considers the allegations concerning our manager Arsene Wenger strictly a private matter and we ask that the privacy of Arsene and his family be respected."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 06, 2010, 10:36:30 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 06, 2010, 10:28:09 AM
O'Neill I thought this thread had more class than that....who cares really  ???

I'm afraid that's not the way with the world in 2010, Dinny, as much as we'd like to ignore it. These things can spiral out of proportion and often have some side effects. Wenger has been manager for a generation and is the sole figurehead for the club. From my POV, it'll be interesting to see if this has any effect on the great man and how he deals with it.

Good chance there's nothing in it/a business friend but sure isn't it great to have a bit of character about the place.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 06, 2010, 10:41:42 AM
But he's French, even he is having an affair it's part of their psych. I understand where you are coming from and from that perspective it will be interesting telling but it's The Arsenal they're not media whores and will close ranks and the story will probably filter out...

I'm just awaiting the trolls to arrive now though....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 06, 2010, 10:43:50 AM
To be honest I thought I'd pre-empt the trolls....

We need an action plan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Worker on November 06, 2010, 10:46:03 AM
Fair play to Arsene!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 07, 2010, 12:55:09 PM
Team v Newcastle:
Fabianski
Sagna Squillaci Koscielny Clichy
Song Wilshere Nasri Walcott Fabregas
Chamakh.

Van Persie on the bench
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 07, 2010, 01:35:09 PM
A day in the pub is in order, could be messy come 12 tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 07, 2010, 02:14:27 PM
Similar pattern to the West Ham game last week.

Fairly flat and when they do forge a chance the keeper's in great form.

Cesc, Nasri and Wilshere - too many cooks at the minute.

Don't really know where Walcott's playing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 07, 2010, 02:18:44 PM
...and Fabianski fcuks up.

1-0 Newcastle.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 07, 2010, 03:09:37 PM
Still 0-1. 77 mins. Newcastle impressively composed. Van Persie has made no difference.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on November 07, 2010, 03:14:05 PM
Arsenal have been atrocious.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 07, 2010, 03:16:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on November 07, 2010, 03:14:05 PM
Arsenal have been atrocious.

Crap. Just wish some hoor would swing a boot at it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on November 07, 2010, 03:25:54 PM
The performance by the Gooners was as bad as the Result.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 07, 2010, 03:27:01 PM
Fcuk I hate November.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 07, 2010, 07:22:24 PM
True can't remember Arsenal ever having a good November...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on November 07, 2010, 08:14:43 PM
Jack Wilshere getting ripped by alot of Arsenal fans on Talksport. Was he that bad? Bit rough on a young lad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 07, 2010, 09:09:58 PM
Really? He had an off-day but not much worse than Cesc. What were they saying?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on November 07, 2010, 11:02:17 PM
Problems with goalkeeper are well documented. Should have bought Given 2 years ago. Should have bought Schwarzer in the summer.

However problesm go deeper than that. When they are on song they can destroy teams, but they seem to be finding it harder to break teams down this year, particularly at home.

West Ham last week, Newcastle today.

Having said that they will probably beat my beloved Everton next Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 07, 2010, 11:50:33 PM
Have to say poor game but on a bright side vod and bull good great. And i am talking shit to a blonde all night so you never know.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballygawleyman on November 08, 2010, 08:52:29 AM
Another dreadful November ahead. Only seen highlights on MOTD2 last night. Krul made a great great save. Should of had Bendtner on earlier.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 08, 2010, 12:01:58 PM
Quote from: gerry on November 07, 2010, 11:50:33 PM
Have to say poor game but on a bright side vod and bull good great. And i am talking shit to a blonde all night so you never know.

Well?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 08, 2010, 01:22:24 PM
The CC game away to Wolves is a big game now. Never thought I'd ever say that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on November 08, 2010, 01:32:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 08, 2010, 01:22:24 PM
The CC game away to Wolves is a big game now. Never thought I'd ever say that.
Wenger has realised the fans would like a trophy after 5yrs so they will go all out for the Carling Cup this year.  Team to avoid for everyone else left in it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 08, 2010, 01:34:45 PM
Just realised it's not the CC Cup. League.

Wolves no push overs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 10, 2010, 07:09:41 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 08, 2010, 12:01:58 PM
Quote from: gerry on November 07, 2010, 11:50:33 PM
Have to say poor game but on a bright side vod and bull good great. And i am talking shit to a blonde all night so you never know.

Well?

meeting again so you never know
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 10, 2010, 07:11:03 PM
no slip up tonight please

Arsenal

    * 21 Fabianski
    * 03 Sagna
    * 18 Squillaci
    * 20 Djourou
    * 22 Clichy
    * 04 Fabregas
    * 07 Rosicky
    * 17 A Song
    * 19 Wilshere
    * 23 Arshavin
    * 29 Chamakh


Substitutes

    * 53 Szczesny,
    * 27 Eboue,
    * 08 Nasri,
    * 14 Walcott,
    * 15 Denilson,
    * 10 Van Persie,
    * 52 Bendtner
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 10, 2010, 08:07:11 PM
another header by Chamakh
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 10, 2010, 08:12:09 PM
Wolves playing well. They're a nice outfit.

Interesting that he left Nasri out of Wishere/Cesc/Nasri. He must see Nasri as defensively suspect. He needed to leave one out though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 10, 2010, 08:24:10 PM
wolves look like scoring
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 10, 2010, 09:18:45 PM
holding on
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 10, 2010, 09:37:32 PM
thats better

Wolves    0-2    Arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 10, 2010, 09:45:00 PM
Fabianski - Zero to Hero.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 10, 2010, 09:49:07 PM
to zero, no doubt sometime soon
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Frank Booth on November 12, 2010, 04:00:19 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 10, 2010, 09:45:00 PM
Fabianski - Zero to Hero.

Yes, but the underlying problem remains - he is no better than Almunia. If the money is there, we need a long term, top class replacement, and I would still like to see a top class striker which Bendtner is not.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 14, 2010, 01:28:51 PM
Looks like the Bender has been chastised for giving Wenger an ultimatum!

Fabianski,
Sagna, Djourou, Squillaci, Clichy,
Nasri, Song, Wilshere, Arshavin, Fabregas,
Chamakh

Bench warmers: Szczesny, Rosicky, van Persie, Walcott, Denilson, Eboue, Gibbs
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on November 14, 2010, 02:29:05 PM
Any web links??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 14, 2010, 02:36:16 PM
Plenty on myp2p.eu

Arsenal still way off the boil. Have been that way since end of October. Passing off-kilter.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 14, 2010, 02:39:35 PM
And Sagna scores. Everton's defending slightly worse than Liverpool's.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 14, 2010, 03:02:38 PM
Fab lucky that that was not a goal. Whats happen to our lovely one touch football. Need to up our game for europe and spurs this week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 14, 2010, 03:20:39 PM
Cesc seems determined to get a red card these days. Must be after a break.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 14, 2010, 03:24:39 PM
What a miss
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 14, 2010, 03:24:50 PM
What a run by Nasri and what a miss by Chamakh.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 14, 2010, 03:25:32 PM
Quote from: gerry on November 14, 2010, 03:24:39 PM
What a miss

Twas unlucky but it'll be in a clip show soon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 14, 2010, 03:27:55 PM
Should have headed it. Lol
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 14, 2010, 03:28:53 PM
Thought he'd replace Cham by now. No game for Walcott/RVP again? Walcott could tear them apart on the break.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 14, 2010, 03:51:40 PM
Oh dear. 1-2. 89 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 14, 2010, 03:58:11 PM
Phew! Been a good week. Fabianski crucial for those 6 points.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Frank Booth on November 14, 2010, 05:43:47 PM
Turning into a vey good day and weekend!!   :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 14, 2010, 07:33:48 PM
QuotePhew! Been a good week. Fabianski crucial for those 6 points. [/quote

Haven't seen much in the last week but have Arsenal found a goalie?

Plus amazing how the Wenger story just died, that's how to run a club...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 14, 2010, 08:08:24 PM
Turn over the Spuds on Saturday afternoon and they're top for a couple of hours. Strange year so far.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on November 14, 2010, 11:24:39 PM
Most wide open league in years.

United not going great, Chelsea have good first 11 but squad is poor.

Fabianski has had a few good games but I'd still be waiting for the shoe to drop, probably vs Utd.

If Wenger makes a real move for Schwarzer in Jan and gets Van Persie and Vermaleen fit then Arsenal could go close this year.
Title: v Spuds
Post by: ONeill on November 20, 2010, 12:13:46 PM
Arsenal:
Fabianski,
Sagna, Squillaci, Koscielny, Clichy,
Song, Denilson, Nasri, Fabregas, Arshavin,
Chamakh.

Subs: Szczesny, Rosicky, van Persie, Walcott, Wilshere, Djourou, Eboue.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on November 20, 2010, 12:16:53 PM
This is a massive game in the race for the title. If spurs can hold to a draw or win I will be happy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on November 20, 2010, 01:09:10 PM
1-0 to the gunners.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 20, 2010, 01:14:16 PM
Nasri's finish was from a very tight angle. I'm not sure if all clubs have it but at Arsenal there's a serious dip in the turf in towards the goal which encourages a trickle to dip into the net.

2-0 now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 20, 2010, 01:21:06 PM
Nasri didn't shake Gallas' hand before the game. In the first minute Fabregas put Nasri through. Gallas executed a brilliant tackle. Whatever happened in the challenge Nasri's vision seemed to be troubling him. Wonder was it a smack of some sort from Gallas. The smelling salts were called for. Then Nasri scored the opener. Gallas is captain today so I'd imagine he'll either score, score an own-goal or get a red.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2010, 01:26:31 PM
Free money today on Arsenal beating Spurs.

How many times have Spurs beaten Arsenal outside of WHL?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 20, 2010, 01:29:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2010, 01:26:31 PM
Free money today on Arsenal beating Spurs.

How many times have Spurs beaten Arsenal outside of WHL?

Last time was 1993 but Arsenal sent out a skeleton side as it was just before the FA Cup final. But with Arsenal losing at home to WBA and Newcastle this year, Spurs'll fancy their chances of getting something today. Both defences are ropey.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 20, 2010, 01:34:20 PM
Last time before that was 1985 but that was New Year's Day which doesn't count really.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2010, 01:38:59 PM
Aye Spurs Beat Utd one New Years. will doubt they will through it away today!! top of the league then
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 20, 2010, 01:56:57 PM
2-1. Really poor defending from Arsenal. Spurs could get something from this alright.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2010, 01:59:58 PM
Spoke too soon!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2010, 02:11:23 PM
Arsenal's first corner after 63 minutes!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on November 20, 2010, 02:12:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2010, 01:59:58 PM
Spoke too soon!

that was a stupid pen to give away
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Worker on November 20, 2010, 02:12:32 PM
Big Woman!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerrykeegan on November 20, 2010, 02:13:48 PM
At half time it was 9 to 1 the draw 40 to
1 the Spuds win. I ignored both bets
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on November 20, 2010, 02:24:03 PM
That is a horrible Arsenal keepers kit
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2010, 02:32:31 PM
Unreal!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2010, 02:34:23 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on November 20, 2010, 02:13:48 PM
At half time it was 9 to 1 the draw 40 to
1 the Spuds win. I ignored both bets


::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerrykeegan on November 20, 2010, 02:35:28 PM
Believe me I looked and said don't be a fool
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on November 20, 2010, 02:37:36 PM
the worst thing about this score, if it remains the same, is that Tony F will be back to glote no doubt, and start another thread about it
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 20, 2010, 02:43:41 PM
Fair play to Spurs. You can only give them credit for that. They took the game by the balls and exposed Arsenal's defence for what they were.

Possibly the worst Arsenal/Spurs experience in my living memory. Fcuk it. Drinking at 5 anyway.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2010, 02:46:24 PM
Well Ireland should improve your spirits!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on November 20, 2010, 02:48:45 PM
I'll be having a wee drink myself after that....... Come on ye Spooors!

Gallas, man of the match.......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on November 20, 2010, 02:58:43 PM
Brilliant game to watch. Going by Arsenal today the league is between Utd and Chelsea. Arsenal just don't have the consistency.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 20, 2010, 03:04:18 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 20, 2010, 02:58:43 PM
Brilliant game to watch. Going by Arsenal today the league is between Utd and Chelsea. Arsenal just don't have the consistency.

Heart missing. Arsenal have talent in abundance. But they lack the guts/balls when a side begins to turn the tide.

This is not a nice feeling.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 20, 2010, 03:25:38 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on November 20, 2010, 02:37:36 PM
the worst thing about this score, if it remains the same, is that Tony F will be back to glote no doubt, and start another thread about it

thats exactly what i was thinking ! If nobody bites and he got no replies he will go away again
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: fer fox ache on November 20, 2010, 03:40:33 PM
What a bunch of ball-less hooers, thank f**k it's the club dinner dance tonight. I can get a few beer in me and forget about it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2010, 07:45:20 PM
Arsenal need to fcuk it into them. Agricultural Bendtner to horse about.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 23, 2010, 07:49:09 PM
willie to score tonight
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2010, 08:14:15 PM
Strange game. Arsenal playing fairly manically, as if they've something to prove to themselves, but playing a odd brand of 100mph football. Walcott having a real stinker. Honker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2010, 08:33:34 PM
No injury time sums it up. Breathless football - not in terms of high standard, just sorta urgent. Eboue better on the right wing than Walcott. Bendtner trying his best to forge something but coming out to centre field. Arsenal playing 1-4-6-0.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 23, 2010, 08:56:02 PM
giving a serious amount of ball away tonight
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 23, 2010, 09:09:31 PM
                        Team    P    GD    PTS
1    S. Donetsk                 5    3    12
2    Arsenal                    5    11    10
3    Braga                    5    -6    7
4    Partizan Belgrade    5    -8    0

an fab of again, i say sell him to feck
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2010, 09:17:13 PM
Nasri, Chamakh and Vela on. Wenger going for it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2010, 09:19:07 PM
Unbelieveable.

Vela cleaved in the penalty area and the ref books him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2010, 09:23:47 PM
Braga 1-0. Kamikaze defending.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 23, 2010, 09:27:10 PM
not good, same points as braga now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2010, 09:29:16 PM
Jees Wilshere's had a stinker too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2010, 09:33:12 PM
November hasn't long to go. Just a Villa defeat.

2-0 Braga.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: fer fox ache on November 23, 2010, 09:39:47 PM
f**king hell I hate this f**king month
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2010, 09:44:44 PM
Embarrassing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 24, 2010, 12:23:26 PM
Arsenal are at a cross-roads..

Th template to beat Arsenal is simple soak up the pressure, let Arsenal play tippy-tappy, tackle hard and hit them on the break, Man U do it, Chelsea do it and Braga did it last night, although it was Stone Wall penalty and the game dynamic changed because of it should not be used as excuse as Braga had the better chances before that...

Denilson, Bendtner, Eboue, Koscielny, Vela are just not good enough, yes they can put in good performances by they are not consistent enough If Wenger is serious about winning titles and not deflecting from it with his marketing strategy about winning titles with young players who play fantastic football he needs to clear out the not good enoughs and buy three quality players in January, a striker and a goalkeeper and a centre back....

If doesn't and Arsenal don't win anything well then he needs to move on next summer, Arsenal are stuck in a cycle....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 24, 2010, 10:51:16 PM
Remarkably Dinny if Arsenal win on Saturday morning they're top of the league for a while. I know what you're saying though. There have been many watershed moments in the last two seasons but nothing has been done. Even that oul fellow Weir playing for Rangers tonight would've done better than the central defence on Saturday and Tuesday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2010, 08:16:54 AM
Is there method in Arsène Wenger's mad, mad world?


I might as well be the first to say it. There seems to be a feeling abroad that the Arsenal manager may have gone – or may be on the verge of going – a bit mad

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2010/11/26/1290778529966/Arsene-Wenger-007.jpg)

Something important seems to be happening at Arsenal and, like everything else there, it seems to be happening around the towering centrepiece of the manager, Arsène Wenger. Wenger has been emitting puffs of cautionary smoke for some time now and fresh tremors appeared again this week after the unfortunate – but also strangely unsurprising – Champions League defeat by the Portuguese third‑raters Braga.

There was a sharpness to reports of Wenger's testiness afterwards. Among some Arsenal fans there is even the same sense of bunched and tearful frustration you might feel with an increasingly stubborn and militant aged parent who inexplicably refuses to understand about the internet or mobile phones or to be twinkly and unflappable and discreet like the aged parents in daytime TV adverts for low-interest loans that can consolidate all your debts into one low monthly payment. The phrase "lost the plot" has even been cautiously trotted out. So far we have danced around this, but I might as well be the first to say it openly. There seems to be a feeling abroad that Wenger may have gone – or may be on the verge of going – a bit mad.

This must be introduced with the obvious caveat that all football managers need a bit of madness in them. After his retirement as Liverpool manager, Bill Shankly would leave his matchday seat in the stands 10 minutes early and take up a raised position near one of the empty stairwells, perhaps on a ledge or a set of railings, in order to declaim and wave and gesture in pious fashion more effectively when everybody else came filing out. This was considered entirely normal. Alf Ramsey celebrated Ipswich's league title by sitting in furrowed silence until everybody else had left and then performing a solo late-night air-punching lap of honour around a darkened Portman Road. Don Howe would train Arsenal's 1971 Double winners by repeatedly shouting the word "Explode!" at them while they ran up the steps of the Highbury stands – and yet he remains a porkpie-hatted emblem of sobriety.

These days it isn't so much managing that brings out the madness. It is going on television. Roy Hodgson was once notable for his air of calm. Greater exposure at Liverpool has left him looking strangely wild-eyed and haunted, prone to leaping about wearing an oversized padded sports coat with teeth clenched and hair flapping, like some habitually-imploding rogue 1970s detective in a Granada TV series called Roy's Game or Hodgson!

Every manager reacts to these pressures differently. Before this season Ian Holloway would often pretend to be mad for tactical reasons, an affectation that has now dissolved into something more rabidly convincing. At Wolves Mick McCarthy flaunts a certain telegenic madness, affecting the thrillingly windblown hairstyle of a quixotic New York tug-boat captain.

It is different with Wenger. There has always been a suspicion, even during his early flush of success, that madness would one day claim him, that this would be his flaw. It is partly a physical thing. Wenger has peculiarly long arms and legs. Aloof in his touchline rectangle, cloaked in his floor-length quilted gown, he seems to be always on the verge of some burst of frighteningly angular expressiveness. There is also a sense that we have never quite forgiven him for turning up and making us all look so dim and retrograde all those years back, parading his oversized spectacles, inventing pasta, and suggesting a single glass of sparkling mineral water as an alternative form of recreation to leaping up and down in a lager-fuelled circle inside a wine bar called Facez.

The thing about Wenger's low-level madness is that it is very specific. This is the madness of the ascetic and the idealist, one that narrows with age. Wenger has only one way, interpreting all he sees through the prism of frictionless, nimble-footed, free-market Euro-Wengerball. Life has become very simple. If his team loses this is now due to some imperfection in the footballing universe, a failing in his opposition or in the game's administrators that has allowed this ideological catastrophe to occur. Such all-consuming zeal can be deeply seductive. There is a sense that his opinions on everything – on whimsical west coast acoustic coffee shop music, or supermarket own-brand yoghurts – will all be robustly, even angrily infused with this galvanising belief in supra-national sideways-pinging soft-shoe spreadsheet football.

There is a beauty, as well as robust economic good sense, in his absolute one-note convictions. Wenger has gambled all on being right, on refusing, for example, to spend jarring sums of money on an essentially unexciting, non-shirtsleeved, unspiky-haired goalkeeper with a tedious expertise in catching footballs. He remains convinced that the world will ultimately bend his way. And perhaps it already has a little. Wenger will take the journey into the promised new world of Fifa fair-play rules and revenue-based austerity with an ideology in hand and a set of self-drawn maps. He may or may not be allowed to get madder from here. But for the mad-curious neutral it would fascinating if he could be proved right just one more time.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/nov/27/madness-arsene-wenger-method-arsenal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 27, 2010, 10:27:25 AM
The Guardian football Blogs are always interesting and really spark some great debate but are populist in that they seem very Arsenal, Man United, Liverpool centric and you else sense that the writer doesn't really believe what he is writing...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2010, 12:07:36 PM
Yep, good point. His last sentence wasn't convincing.

Fabianski,
Sagna, Koscielny, Squillaci, Clichy,
Nasri, Song, Wilshere, Rosicky (c), Arshavin,
Chamakh

Subs:
Szczesny, van Persie, Walcott, Denilson, Djourou, Gibbs, Bendtner

Pires starts for Villa
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 27, 2010, 12:21:42 PM
I get the impression that Arsenal have change their approach as regards injury management with RVP and Walcott again on the bench and Djourou and Gibbs been limited to one game per week, hopefully it's a step in the right direction..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 27, 2010, 12:31:14 PM
sky sports news give the gunners a bit of a slaggiing this morning
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 27, 2010, 01:33:15 PM
2-0 Nasri - have only tuned in and after watching the last 10 minutes it could be 4-0...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 27, 2010, 01:35:25 PM
2-0, lets hope we do not do a spurs this weekend
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 27, 2010, 01:45:24 PM
True what odds Villa 3-2  ???

Gerry, what did Skysports News say about The Arsenal, probably all deserved after the week they've had...

On that subject Wenger has never gotten a fair deal from the UK media, from the he's managed in Japan he can't be any good jibes, to the dirty Arsenal jibes (I miss those days), to his current frugal approach where you aren't allow touch an Arsenal player all while never seeing a thing.

But the point they seem to miss his always open to the media, gives interviews and always has an opinion not just on football, great for the quotes "everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife been my favourite"...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerrykeegan on November 27, 2010, 01:58:02 PM
Nice goal from the Paddy
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 27, 2010, 01:59:59 PM
Great finish but Carew was miles off-side standing in front of Fabanski..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 27, 2010, 02:00:59 PM
QuoteTrue what odds Villa 3-2  ???

18-1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 27, 2010, 02:03:17 PM
3-1

What odd 4-3 to Villa, hard to have any faith in the Arse defence,,
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerrykeegan on November 27, 2010, 02:14:19 PM
Useless Paddy
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 27, 2010, 02:14:38 PM
QuoteGerry, what did Skysports News say about The Arsenal, probably all deserved after the week they've had...

they were saying that arsenal  have a problems with the back four and that the back four midweek were all french and that they need an old fashion english defender.  the fact we have being blaming the goalkeeper for leaking goals when infact it was the back four were to blame.

also that arsenal talk themselves up to winning the champions league and the premier league when they can not hold on to a lead and grind out results.

btw i had hangover at the time so was not listening 100%
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 27, 2010, 02:16:03 PM
good old skysports news always intelligent insightful analysis...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerrykeegan on November 27, 2010, 02:16:26 PM
Brilliant Paddy
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on November 27, 2010, 02:18:06 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 27, 2010, 02:03:17 PM
3-1

What odd 4-3 to Villa, hard to have any faith in the Arse defence,,

Could have got 100/1 though as i type it's now only 30/1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 27, 2010, 02:18:47 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 27, 2010, 02:03:17 PM
3-1

What odd 4-3 to Villa, hard to have any faith in the Arse defence,,

25 - 1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 27, 2010, 02:40:54 PM
Never in doubt... :-X

Crisis over for Arsenal...

Must be Liverpool's turn again, although Chelsea are getting there...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerrykeegan on November 27, 2010, 02:46:13 PM
I have seen very little of Clark, but he seems a big strong lad who can play a bit of football
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on November 27, 2010, 05:27:24 PM
I love the way the old fashioned English way of doing things is always the best way, hard to beat a big of romanticism! Clark's Irish, isn't he? Thought he was a CB but he seemed to do well in midfield today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2010, 09:38:46 PM
Highlights - http://videa.hu/videok/sport/aston-villa-arsenal-2-4-angol-foci-gunners-MnBXScpyun3itUu6

Check out the amount of chances in the first 16 mins.

Also, Clichy - he's half the player he was. Notice his decision to stand off the Villa player for the first goal. Perhaps it'd be a bit much to blame him for the second.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on November 27, 2010, 09:55:14 PM
Quote from: paco on November 27, 2010, 05:27:24 PM
I love the way the old fashioned English way of doing things is always the best way, hard to beat a big of romanticism! Clark's Irish, isn't he? Thought he was a CB but he seemed to do well in midfield today.

He has declared for the ROI but he represented England at various underage levels.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2010, 07:11:38 PM
Szczesny,
Eboue, Koscielny, Djourou, Gibbs,
Denilson, Wilshere, Walcott, Bendtner,
Van Persie (c),
Vela
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2010, 07:48:21 PM
Bendtner misses a complete sitter with the head after a minute. jaysus.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2010, 08:45:05 PM
1-0 up at HT. Disjointed performance. Vela missed two chances he'd usually put away. Van Persie showing some touches. Walcott's on the ball a lot but old habits - poor final ball. Bender has been brutal. Goal was an OG from a corner.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 30, 2010, 08:51:17 PM
just in from work, seems to be a poor enough game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2010, 08:52:19 PM
If they'd a finisher on (or Nasri) they'd be 4-5 nil up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 30, 2010, 08:54:33 PM
is it my stream, or are them fecking horns from thw world cup that i hear
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2010, 08:57:12 PM
For all Wilshere's talent, he does try too many flicks/backheels in dangerous positions. Gibbs and Kochelny playing well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2010, 08:57:58 PM
Quote from: gerry on November 30, 2010, 08:54:33 PM
is it my stream, or are them fecking horns from thw world cup that i hear

Stream I think.

Snowing down.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 30, 2010, 09:06:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 30, 2010, 08:57:12 PM
For all Wilshere's talent, he does try too many flicks/backheels in dangerous positions.
like there now from the corner
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2010, 09:13:28 PM
What was the Bender's goal like? Stream froze.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2010, 09:19:15 PM
How many is Vela gonna miss?

Eastmond and Nasri on. RVP off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 30, 2010, 09:19:29 PM
vela passed the ball into box and bendtner just about put it in
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 30, 2010, 09:37:31 PM
some missed chances
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2010, 09:42:56 PM
Yep, still fairly disjointed (Walcott has regressed) but through to the semis.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on November 30, 2010, 09:45:16 PM
Gooners to win there 1st trophy for 6 years?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 30, 2010, 09:46:25 PM
the two young boys that came on at the end looked lively
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2010, 09:48:05 PM
Quote from: gerry on November 30, 2010, 09:46:25 PM
the two young boys that came on at the end looked lively

Eastmond's not ready yet though.

The other fellow - JET - has plenty of strength about him. He'll either be a Heskey or a Drogba.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 01, 2010, 10:03:32 PM
Ispwich great tie sure final place?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 01, 2010, 10:31:29 PM
Revenge for 1978.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 02, 2010, 12:28:53 AM
Will roy be there come jan
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on December 03, 2010, 11:43:35 PM
Anyone think Arshavin will get a frosty reception at the Emirates tomorrow?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 04, 2010, 01:25:01 PM
Quote from: paco on December 03, 2010, 11:43:35 PM
Anyone think Arshavin will get a frosty reception at the Emirates tomorrow?

From who, the press box?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 04, 2010, 03:54:19 PM
1-1 at HT home to Fulham. Started brightly with Nasri running the show, scoring a clinker. Tippy-tappy though when through on goal too many times. Kamara a class act for Fulham, causing serious problems. Scored when Koscielny was dazed. Unfortunate.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on December 04, 2010, 04:51:32 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 04, 2010, 01:25:01 PM
Quote from: paco on December 03, 2010, 11:43:35 PM
Anyone think Arshavin will get a frosty reception at the Emirates tomorrow?

From who, the press box?

As far as I'm aware England lost out on the World Cup in 2018 to Russia during the week. Apparently their fans weren't too happy and I thought maybe it wouldn't have been unlike the English fans to boo one of their own players, namely Arshavin who was on the Russian bid team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 04, 2010, 04:54:46 PM
Top of the table. Wenger out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 04, 2010, 04:55:52 PM
Quote from: paco on December 04, 2010, 04:51:32 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 04, 2010, 01:25:01 PM
Quote from: paco on December 03, 2010, 11:43:35 PM
Anyone think Arshavin will get a frosty reception at the Emirates tomorrow?

From who, the press box?

As far as I'm aware England lost out on the World Cup in 2018 to Russia during the week. Apparently their fans weren't too happy and I thought maybe it wouldn't have been unlike the English fans to boo one of their own players, namely Arshavin who was on the Russian bid team.

It is a media and blazers row. The supporters probably don't care.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 04, 2010, 05:01:13 PM
Some performance from Nasri again today his second goal was one Messi would be proud of!

I saw a stat yesterday, Arse are unbeaten in December for 3 years so the gooners to stay top for xmas day?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 04, 2010, 05:02:15 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 04, 2010, 04:54:46 PM
Top of the table. Wenger out.

More due to Chelsea's implosion than anything Arsenal are doing.

Any Arsenal fan with heart issues should not watch them look like conceding everytime a ball goes into the box. Although in saying that Djourou looks like a player himself and Vermaelen could be quite the pairing.

So Arsenal's crisis is now over and officially Chelsea's has begun, funny old game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 04, 2010, 05:27:28 PM
Those last 5 minutes fairly knocked the raging hangover outta me. How the fcuk are Arsenal top?

Might book a flight for the trophy parade in May.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 04, 2010, 05:56:22 PM
Nasri was fantastic. Two special goals.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 04, 2010, 06:02:15 PM
Super save from Fabanski at the end as well, the fish wouldn't have made that..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 04, 2010, 06:10:15 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on December 04, 2010, 05:56:22 PM
Nasri was fantastic. Two special goals.

He has been terrific. Ghosts past players like a 5-a-sider.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 04, 2010, 10:42:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 04, 2010, 09:51:27 PM
Just saw the 2nd. Superb.

just seen the first one, it was not to bad either
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 04, 2010, 10:54:05 PM
lucky to get the 3 points, look still dodgy at the back
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 04, 2010, 10:54:44 PM
he have a great season so far
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 04, 2010, 11:13:54 PM
Quote from: gerry on December 04, 2010, 10:54:44 PM
he have a great season so far

he have a great session today?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 07, 2010, 11:36:04 PM
So, if Arsenal finish second (1st or 3rd still possible), they'll face one of these:

Schalke, Barca, Munich or Madrid.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 07, 2010, 11:57:15 PM
Germans are in poor form this season would fancy Arse to beat them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 07:37:02 PM
Fabianski;
Sagna Koscielny Squillac Gibbs;
Song Denilson;
Nasri Van Persie Arshavin;
Chamakh
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 08:12:26 PM
Arsenal groggy. Need a goal in Donetsk to settle the nerves.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 08, 2010, 08:15:18 PM
made the most of it
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 08:16:50 PM
The goalie was giving Van Persie some talking to before the penalty.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: lurganblue on December 08, 2010, 08:18:21 PM
I always thought it was an arsenal policy that if you were fouled for a penalty you didn't take it? Or was that an Henry thing?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 08, 2010, 08:19:58 PM
Still awaiting the first attempt on target in this game? (in open play)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 08, 2010, 08:22:06 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 08, 2010, 08:19:58 PM
Still awaiting the first attempt on target in this game? (in open play)

Have you not counted all the throw-ins?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 08:23:07 PM
Paper-lite Van Persie. What's the betting he pulls something.

Quote from: ross4life on December 08, 2010, 08:19:58 PM
Still awaiting the first attempt on target in this game? (in open play)

Why are you waiting?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 08:24:02 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 08, 2010, 08:18:21 PM
I always thought it was an arsenal policy that if you were fouled for a penalty you didn't take it? Or was that an Henry thing?

They abandoned that a while ago.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 08, 2010, 08:28:17 PM
every time rvp goes down you think that the stretcher coming on
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 08:29:59 PM
Van Persie very rusty tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on December 08, 2010, 08:31:29 PM
Presuming he gets back on top form and fitness where does he fit into the Arsenal team or who loses out?
Does Wenger know his best first 11 this season?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 08, 2010, 08:36:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 08:23:07 PM
Paper-lite Van Persie. What's the betting he pulls something.

Quote from: ross4life on December 08, 2010, 08:19:58 PM
Still awaiting the first attempt on target in this game? (in open play)

Why are you waiting?

With players like Chamakh,Van Persie,Nasri,Arshavin i shouldn't be waiting at all.. you would expect better v a team with 0 pts?

When is fibreglass back? he sure looks cold tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 08:38:53 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 08, 2010, 08:36:57 PM


Quote from: ross4life on December 08, 2010, 08:19:58 PM


With players like Chamakh,Van Persie,Nasri,Arshavin i shouldn't be waiting at all.. you would expect better v a team with 0 pts?


No. It's cold.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 08:40:50 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on December 08, 2010, 08:31:29 PM
Presuming he gets back on top form and fitness where does he fit into the Arsenal team or who loses out?
Does Wenger know his best first 11 this season?

That is what has kept me awake for a couple of months now. I'm not sure at all where to play him. Chamakh is a tougher nut and can ship punishment. RVP is miles more talented but plays about 3 games in succession before breaking down with a new ailment.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on December 08, 2010, 08:50:28 PM
After scoring the penalty, RVP slid along on his knees on the turf.
I'm a big fan of his, but that was a crazy thing to do for an injury-prone player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 08:52:30 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on December 08, 2010, 08:50:28 PM
After scoring the penalty, RVP slid along on his knees on the turf.
I'm a big fan of his, but that was a crazy thing to do for an injury-prone player.

Exactly. I think he hurt himself before doing that. He also was out for ages in the act of scoring against Utd one year.

A goal for Donetsk still desirable.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 08, 2010, 08:53:06 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on December 08, 2010, 08:50:28 PM
After scoring the penalty, RVP slid along on his knees on the turf.
I'm a big fan of his, but that was a crazy thing to do for an injury-prone player.

Me neither.

I wear shin guards at home in case I bump them off a coffee table or something. Can't be too careful.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on December 08, 2010, 08:54:05 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 08:40:50 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on December 08, 2010, 08:31:29 PM
Presuming he gets back on top form and fitness where does he fit into the Arsenal team or who loses out?
Does Wenger know his best first 11 this season?

That is what has kept me awake for a couple of months now. I'm not sure at all where to play him. Chamakh is a tougher nut and can ship punishment. RVP is miles more talented but plays about 3 games in succession before breaking down with a new ailment.

RVP's positioning is totally different to Chamakh's too. One or the other leading the line makes the entire shape up front completely different.
I far prefer Van Perise as a player but it may actually be the case that they are a better attacking unit without him. Van Perise drifts into positions that Fabregas, Walcott, Nasri, Rosicky, Arshavin and others all also do but Chamakh may be the only man to give them a proper point of attack. Suppose they could work as a partnership but someone's losing out somewhere.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 08:57:21 PM
Feck me. 1-1.

Arsenal very predictable. Get Walcott on as even he doesn't know what he's gonna do.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: leaveherinsir on December 08, 2010, 08:59:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 08:57:21 PM
Feck me. 1-1.

Arsenal very predictable. Get Walcott on as even he doesn't know what he's gonna do.
You are right about Walcott! He will probably come on and score now tho!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:00:03 PM
Fcuk sake Robin. Quit the backheels and lamp it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:02:56 PM
Following the Braga game on this (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/champions-league/2010-2011/shakhtar-donetsk-sporting-braga-384232.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:04:11 PM
You get the impression Arsenal want Nasri to do something on his own.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: lurganblue on December 08, 2010, 09:05:29 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on December 08, 2010, 08:50:28 PM
After scoring the penalty, RVP slid along on his knees on the turf.
I'm a big fan of his, but that was a crazy thing to do for an injury-prone player.

I think that thought popped into his head just before he did it too. He was going for a big high jump first then caught himself on
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 08, 2010, 09:05:42 PM
going by tonights performance, next monday night looks bad for us
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on December 08, 2010, 09:06:01 PM
Arshavin worse than pathetic here.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:06:44 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on December 08, 2010, 09:06:01 PM
Arshavin worse than pathetic here.

You'd have thought he'd be a pig in shite in this weather.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:10:33 PM
Theo on. How many times will he just kick it into the crowd in 23 mins?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on December 08, 2010, 09:13:07 PM
If Braga get a goal? They must have jet-lag, Portugal to Ukraine is one long trip.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:16:41 PM
Never doubted Theo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 08, 2010, 09:17:54 PM
 a Braga goal be nice now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:19:16 PM
Quote from: gerry on December 08, 2010, 09:17:54 PM
a Braga goal be nice now

No fcukin way. Not yet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:19:49 PM
Quote from: gerry on December 08, 2010, 09:17:54 PM
a Braga goal be nice now

Now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 08, 2010, 09:21:19 PM
second it is then
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:21:36 PM
...and Donetsk score.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: leaveherinsir on December 08, 2010, 09:22:15 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on December 08, 2010, 08:59:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 08:57:21 PM
Feck me. 1-1.

Arsenal very predictable. Get Walcott on as even he doesn't know what he's gonna do.
You are right about Walcott! He will probably come on and score now tho!
Told ye so!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:23:39 PM
Get Van Persie off to feck. His ear'll fall off or something.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:26:07 PM
Impressed with Bender since he came on. Two good balls.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on December 08, 2010, 09:27:51 PM
Any Fantasy Football recommendations from tonight?
I have Nasri in my team and no Arsenal defenders.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:29:40 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on December 08, 2010, 09:27:51 PM
Any Fantasy Football recommendations from tonight?
I have Nasri in my team and no Arsenal defenders.

That sums it up well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 08, 2010, 09:30:07 PM
the hairdresser got that call wrong and braga 2 down now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 08, 2010, 09:36:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:26:07 PM
Impressed with Bender since he came on. Two good balls.

He is complete Senderos.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:37:48 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 08, 2010, 09:36:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:26:07 PM
Impressed with Bender since he came on. Two good balls.

He is complete Senderos.

Yip, the 2 balls went to his head.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on December 08, 2010, 09:39:08 PM
What does Pat Rice do?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:53:35 PM
Arsenal have now scored more goals (14) in three home group stage games than any other team in Champions League history
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on December 08, 2010, 09:57:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:53:35 PM
Arsenal have now scored more goals (14) in three home group stage games than any other team in Champions League history

Ross4life would be proud of that stat.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 10:00:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 08, 2010, 09:57:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:53:35 PM
Arsenal have now scored more goals (14) in three home group stage games than any other team in Champions League history

Ross4life would be proud of that stat.

He's still waiting for a shot on target.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 08, 2010, 10:06:40 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 10:00:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 08, 2010, 09:57:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:53:35 PM
Arsenal have now scored more goals (14) in three home group stage games than any other team in Champions League history

Ross4life would be proud of that stat.

He's still waiting for a shot on target.

Arsenal 2nd & 3rd goals were there 1st & 2nd shots on target..... Now thats a impressive strike rate/stat.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 08, 2010, 10:09:36 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 08, 2010, 10:06:40 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 10:00:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 08, 2010, 09:57:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:53:35 PM
Arsenal have now scored more goals (14) in three home group stage games than any other team in Champions League history

Ross4life would be proud of that stat.

He's still waiting for a shot on target.

Arsenal 2nd & 3rd goals were there 1st & 2nd shots on target..... Now thats a impressive strike rate/stat.

Very impressive alright when your 1st shot on target is your second goal.

Are you an advisor to Brian Lenihan by any chance?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 08, 2010, 10:13:38 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 08, 2010, 10:09:36 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 08, 2010, 10:06:40 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 10:00:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 08, 2010, 09:57:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:53:35 PM
Arsenal have now scored more goals (14) in three home group stage games than any other team in Champions League history

Ross4life would be proud of that stat.

He's still waiting for a shot on target.

Arsenal 2nd & 3rd goals were there 1st & 2nd shots on target..... Now thats a impressive strike rate/stat.

Very impressive alright when your 1st shot on target is your second goal.

Are you an advisor to Brian Lenihan by any chance?

I'm sure if you read my OP i said open play! VP also had a free-kick before the 2nd goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 08, 2010, 10:18:19 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 08, 2010, 09:16:41 PM
Never doubted Theo.

Yer some eejit.

Arsenal sloppy enough tonight - but a touch of class from Cleo after a lucky break in the box, and then the big fella and Nasri combining nicely.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: David McKeown on December 09, 2010, 01:43:55 AM
One of my friends sent me this earlier today thought it quite funny not a bad way to prepare for a game either. 

‎"In tonight's show, I want the first half to be really entertaining and the second to be unbelievably nerve-wracking and difficult to watch. Let's see how you like it" – stand-up comic and Arsenal season ticket holder Dara O Briain's opening line at a charity gig attended by the Arsenal first-team squad Monday night.

Apparently Dara then took the piss all night
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 09, 2010, 09:59:43 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on December 09, 2010, 01:43:55 AM
One of my friends sent me this earlier today thought it quite funny not a bad way to prepare for a game either. 

‎"In tonight's show, I want the first half to be really entertaining and the second to be unbelievably nerve-wracking and difficult to watch. Let's see how you like it" – stand-up comic and Arsenal season ticket holder Dara O Briain's opening line at a charity gig attended by the Arsenal first-team squad Monday night.

Apparently Dara then took the piss all night

O'Brien tweeted it a day or two ago.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 11, 2010, 06:52:41 PM
Looking forward to Monday night. Some great memories of success at Old Trafford. I suppose Wiltord's goal in 2002 was the most crucial. Adebayor's goal in 2006 was enjoyable too in the season they did the double over Utd.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 12, 2010, 11:00:49 PM
There's a trend here. Arsenal's memorable victories seem to come in 4-year cycles.

2006 - Man Utd 0 Arsenal 1 = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcrNnSQ6cV0
2002 - Man Utd 0 Arsenal 1 = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPkxEvl3GYg
1998 - Man Utd 0 Arsenal 1 = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RrK-ifLCZc
1994 - didn't play them away that calendar year.
1990 - Man Utd 0 Arsenal 1 = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjG7ZNK_MBY
1986 - didn't play

Adebayor, Wiltord, Overmars, Limpar. In terms of geography, the scorer is heading south. Eboue or Song? Where the feck is Togo?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 13, 2010, 12:03:28 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2010, 11:00:49 PM
There's a trend here. Arsenal's memorable victories seem to come in 4-year cycles.

2006 - Man Utd 0 Arsenal 1 = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcrNnSQ6cV0
2002 - Man Utd 0 Arsenal 1 = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPkxEvl3GYg
1998 - Man Utd 0 Arsenal 1 = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RrK-ifLCZc
1994 - didn't play them away that calendar year.
1990 - Man Utd 0 Arsenal 1 = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjG7ZNK_MBY
1986 - didn't play

Adebayor, Wiltord, Overmars, Limpar. In terms of geography, the scorer is heading south. Eboue or Song? Where the feck is Togo?

AWOL? What can it mean?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 13, 2010, 07:28:38 AM
You can see Arsenal dominating Man United, creating chance after chance while Man U have only 1 shot on traget and still losie 4-0 to two deflected goals, an o.g and a Rooney 'dive special' penalty....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 13, 2010, 07:19:42 PM
Szczesny,
Sagna, Koscielny, Squillaci, Clichy,
Song, Wilshere, Nasri, Rosicky, Arshavin,
Chamakh
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 13, 2010, 07:34:28 PM
Man U 0 (Fletcher sent-off 89)
Arsenal 1 (Song 86)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 13, 2010, 08:53:19 PM
Half Time Utd 1 Arsenal 0

Park scored his 100th consecutive goal v Arsenal. Arsenal have been very poor. Evra has Nasri in his pocket with Sagna covering for Nasri as he won't track back. Park also standing in front of Nasri. It's the same every time - Fergie picks 4 workhorses to give Arsenal no room to play their game and it works, every time.

With Nasri tied up, there's no creativity with their final ball fairly shocking. I'd throw Fabregas on from the start.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 13, 2010, 08:57:02 PM
No shock here, Arsenal struggling to hold to the ball and a freak goal score (1988 Wim Kieft like)...

Pity Fabregas is not fit, he'd run riot against that Man U midfield (Carrick, Anderson, Fletcher and Park), worst Man U midfield I have ever seen...

Goal keeping choice has backfired, no distribution what so ever...

Pftt same old Arsenal at ht....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 13, 2010, 08:58:02 PM
QuoteFergie picks 4 workhorses

Insult to workhorses...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 13, 2010, 09:03:28 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 13, 2010, 08:57:02 PM


Pity Fabregas is not fit, he'd run riot against that Man U midfield (Carrick, Anderson, Fletcher and Park), worst Man U midfield I have ever seen...



Fergie always plays a midfield like that v Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 13, 2010, 09:18:07 PM
Took Wenger 50 mins to move Nasri into the centre. Better than never I suppose.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on December 13, 2010, 09:20:55 PM
Wilshire looks far from the future of English soccer tonight.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 13, 2010, 09:25:54 PM
2 world cup finalist on. So all is good. Btw in the pub surrounded by utd wankers
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 13, 2010, 09:34:06 PM
Feck in justice done
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: scud on December 13, 2010, 09:41:39 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 13, 2010, 08:58:02 PM
QuoteFergie picks 4 workhorses

Insult to workhorses...

:D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on December 13, 2010, 09:47:32 PM
1-0 down at ht and arsenal have managed, what, 1 maybe 2 shots?  None on target. A team with no heart and no b@lls. Wenger needs to take a long look at himself. Man U play the same way against Arsenal every single time and never look remotely in trouble. So infuriating cos every time you think ah yeh they are bound to have figured this out by now. And yetthey never do.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 13, 2010, 09:59:51 PM
Poor result, poor game, poor performance and disappointing especially as Man U were there for the taking, not a good side.

Ah well Man U deserved it, defended well but were comfortable, Evra probably motm, pity they've turned into a long ball side...

The young pole needs to work on his distribution, put Arsenal under pressure and led to the goal but looks promising..

Farcical decision for the penalty..

Will be back top for Christmas...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 13, 2010, 10:06:40 PM
Strangely not all that disappointed. Dinny covers all the bases. Thought Arshavin was crap. Utd's 4 engines just buzzed around when Arsenal were on the ball for 94 mins.

Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 13, 2010, 09:59:51 PM

Will be back top for Christmas...

Next Saturday night hopefully.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on December 13, 2010, 10:10:44 PM
Arsenal will never win the EPL or CL with second rate bargain buys (Squill, Cham & Kosc being  the main 3 offenders). They also need a plan b as the tippy tappy sh!te that beats Fulham just doesn't work against the big boys. Pretending to be the English barca Is delusional. Barca would embarrass them  The great Arsenal teams had leaders, grit, dig, whatever you want to call it. This lot should be sat down and made watch the invincibles DVD

Ah maybe it'll look brighter in the morning. Prob shouldn't get my hopes up each time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on December 13, 2010, 10:15:30 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on December 13, 2010, 10:10:44 PM
Arsenal will never win the EPL or CL with second rate bargain buys (Squill, Cham & Kosc being  the main 3 offenders). They also need a plan b as the tippy tappy sh!te that beats Fulham just doesn't work against the big boys. Pretending to be the English barca Is delusional. Barca would embarrass them  The great Arsenal teams had leaders, grit, dig, whatever you want to call it. This lot should be sat down and made watch the invincibles DVD

Ferguson always puts out his midfield cloggers (Fletcher, Anderson, Park, etc) against Arsenal and they always seem to beat them through sheer workrate and energy. Works like a charm for him everytime.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 13, 2010, 10:31:59 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on December 13, 2010, 10:10:44 PM
Arsenal will never win the EPL or CL with second rate bargain buys (Squill, Cham & Kosc being  the main 3 offenders). They also need a plan b as the tippy tappy sh!te that beats Fulham just doesn't work against the big boys. Pretending to be the English barca Is delusional. Barca would embarrass them  The great Arsenal teams had leaders, grit, dig, whatever you want to call it. This lot should be sat down and made watch the invincibles DVD

Ah maybe it'll look brighter in the morning. Prob shouldn't get my hopes up each time.

Strange as I thought Squllachi and Koscielny were excellent tonight as were the entire back 4 Uniteds goal was pretty fortuitous and their other chances came on the Counter Attack. . . my money for worst players were Rosicky, Song, Arshavin and Chamakh!!! The 3 'main men' who came on hardly covered themselves in glory as VP couldn't get on the ball, Fabregas must have given at least 3/4 passes away and Walcott has the first touch of a rapist!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on December 13, 2010, 11:00:14 PM
S.E is 100% correct.

Couldn't be summed up better.

Arsenal just lack the bottle.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on December 13, 2010, 11:04:16 PM
Also really glad we weren't disappointed by the typical Old Trafford penalty.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 13, 2010, 11:10:27 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 13, 2010, 09:59:51 PM
Poor result, poor game, poor performance and disappointing especially as Man U were there for the taking, not a good side.

Ah well Man U deserved it, defended well but were comfortable, Evra probably motm, pity they've turned into a long ball side...

The young pole needs to work on his distribution, put Arsenal under pressure and led to the goal but looks promising..

Farcical decision for the penalty..

Will be back top for Christmas...

So your expecting Chelsea to beat United?

A draw would keep United top for Xmas.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 13, 2010, 11:22:37 PM
QuoteSo your expecting Chelsea to beat United?

No flies on you, based on yesterday and this evening Chelsea had the best performance of the 4 sides who played, Arsenal the worst btw and they are a simply a better side than Man U so yes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on December 14, 2010, 08:47:39 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 13, 2010, 11:22:37 PM
QuoteSo your expecting Chelsea to beat United?

No flies on you, based on yesterday and this evening Chelsea had the best performance of the 4 sides who played, Arsenal the worst btw and they are a simply a better side than Man U so yes.

United will beat Chelsea, United have the better side and bar a refereeing blunder at the weekend United will take all 3 points. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on December 14, 2010, 01:27:06 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on December 13, 2010, 11:04:16 PM
Also really glad we weren't disappointed by the typical Old Trafford penalty.

The penalty that was given was questionable but Utd def should have had one in the 1st half.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on December 14, 2010, 01:34:44 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on December 14, 2010, 01:27:06 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on December 13, 2010, 11:04:16 PM
Also really glad we weren't disappointed by the typical Old Trafford penalty.

The penalty that was given was questionable but Utd def should have had one in the 1st half.


Yeah you could be right about the 1st but the ref missed it.

That happens sometimes.

The 2nd penalty decision was a joke.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 14, 2010, 02:03:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 13, 2010, 08:57:02 PM
Pity Fabregas is not fit, he'd run riot against that Man U midfield (Carrick, Anderson, Fletcher and Park), worst Man U midfield I have ever seen...


Where were you for the two 1-3 defeats? same midfield & Fabregas played in both games.

Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 13, 2010, 11:22:37 PM
QuoteSo your expecting Chelsea to beat United?

No flies on you, based on yesterday and this evening Chelsea had the best performance of the 4 sides who played, Arsenal the worst btw and they are a simply a better side than Man U so yes.

Your definition of Simply better is slighty different to mine. past 6 seasons both have 3 titles each & United haven't gone 6 games in a row without beating Chelsea like Arse have with United or will they finish 10/15 points behind.




Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 14, 2010, 02:53:18 PM
QuoteWhere were you for the two 1-3 defeats? same midfield & Fabregas played in both games.

Does time stand still in your world, Carrick is a shadow of his former self and only Anderson is in any sort of form. Man U by-passed their midfield last night.


QuoteYour definition of Simply better is slighty different to mine. past 6 seasons both have 3 titles each & United haven't gone 6 games in a row without beating Chelsea like Arse have with United or will they finish 10/15 points behind.

I don't care for your stats only Vidic and Nani would definitely make a joint XI between those two sides, toss of a coin between Rooney, Drogba or Anelka up front. Chelsea have a better starting XI period and from what I saw on Sunday and the leadership been displayed by Terry I'd expect Chelsea to win.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 14, 2010, 03:37:41 PM
There is no doubting that is a poor united side - as poor as there has been in maybe the last 2 decades - however they somehow just keep on winning. I couldnt be arsed to pull out the computer as the game started yesterday - but as I was watching the warm up and the camera was on Park - I just couldnt help but think that that little shite-san was going to cause us some level of trouble. I thought about posting to that effect - but then I thought he couldnt possibly do it again.

Arsenal were actually pretty composed at the back - bar a couple mistakes by Squillachi and of course Clichey giving Nani far too much time on the ball - but we were inept in pretty much every other sector of the park.

I thought a premier leage debut by the keeper in arsenals nightmare position - he had a great game - bar the two hospital balls he gave Sagna Dinny?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on December 14, 2010, 04:19:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 14, 2010, 02:53:18 PM
QuoteWhere were you for the two 1-3 defeats? same midfield & Fabregas played in both games.

Does time stand still in your world, Carrick is a shadow of his former self and only Anderson is in any sort of form. Man U by-passed their midfield last night.


QuoteYour definition of Simply better is slighty different to mine. past 6 seasons both have 3 titles each & United haven't gone 6 games in a row without beating Chelsea like Arse have with United or will they finish 10/15 points behind.

I don't care for your stats only Vidic and Nani would definitely make a joint XI between those two sides, toss of a coin between Rooney, Drogba or Anelka up front. Chelsea have a better starting XI period and from what I saw on Sunday and the leadership been displayed by Terry I'd expect Chelsea to win.

Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Rooney, Valencia (when fit) and Nani would make the starting 11 of a combined Chelsea/United team.  Toss of a coin between VDS and Cech.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on December 14, 2010, 04:22:40 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 14, 2010, 04:19:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 14, 2010, 02:53:18 PM
QuoteWhere were you for the two 1-3 defeats? same midfield & Fabregas played in both games.

Does time stand still in your world, Carrick is a shadow of his former self and only Anderson is in any sort of form. Man U by-passed their midfield last night.


QuoteYour definition of Simply better is slighty different to mine. past 6 seasons both have 3 titles each & United haven't gone 6 games in a row without beating Chelsea like Arse have with United or will they finish 10/15 points behind.

I don't care for your stats only Vidic and Nani would definitely make a joint XI between those two sides, toss of a coin between Rooney, Drogba or Anelka up front. Chelsea have a better starting XI period and from what I saw on Sunday and the leadership been displayed by Terry I'd expect Chelsea to win.

Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Rooney, Valencia (when fit) and
Nani would make the starting 11 of a combined
Chelsea/United team.  Toss of a coin between VDS and Cech.

I take it you are totally disregarding Rooneys form since March when you are lining out your United/Chelsea combined team?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 14, 2010, 06:57:33 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 14, 2010, 02:53:18 PM
QuoteWhere were you for the two 1-3 defeats? same midfield & Fabregas played in both games.

Does time stand still in your world, Carrick is a shadow of his former self and only Anderson is in any sort of form. Man U by-passed their midfield last night.


QuoteYour definition of Simply better is slighty different to mine. past 6 seasons both have 3 titles each & United haven't gone 6 games in a row without beating Chelsea like Arse have with United or will they finish 10/15 points behind.

I don't care for your stats only Vidic and Nani would definitely make a joint XI between those two sides, toss of a coin between Rooney, Drogba or Anelka up front. Chelsea have a better starting XI period and from what I saw on Sunday and the leadership been displayed by Terry I'd expect Chelsea to win.

If Scholes was fit last night it's fair to say he & not Carrick would have played last night.  in the 1st half United overpowered Arse midfield thanks to the brilliance of Park, Anderson,Fletcher & in the 2nd half United were happy enough to sit back soak up the pressure & hit the gooners on the break (on another night they would have scored more)

As for your XI only two? it's good to see you didn't let your hatred for United cloud your judgement.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 14, 2010, 09:21:05 PM
QuoteAs for your XI only two? it's good to see you didn't let your hatred for United cloud your judgement.

Hatred, what a strange word to use, I have no love of Man U but have always admired their football and not the long ball shite they played last night equally I have no love of Chelsea but I'm a fan of Drogba the man. So I'm pretty neutral, the team I'd pick would be Cech, Ivanovic, Terry, Vidic, Cole, Malouda, Essien, Obi Mikel, Lampard, Nani, Drogba.

The thing about Man U is that currently they are playing beyond the sum of their parts, Fergie takes credit for that, a tremendous manger but the EPL winners will come from London this year.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 14, 2010, 09:52:42 PM
Yep, credit has to go to Fergie. He definitely gets the best out of sides which lack natural flair.

Still flummoxed by Wenger last night, leaving Nasri on Evra for 50 minutes. Arsenal's most creative and in-form player, who has no intention of tracking Evra, negated out on the wing for so long. Clichy's form has nose-dived alarmingly.

Also, when RVP came on, it was obvious that it's a bit of a mess with him, Cesc and Nasri on the same pitch. All three were at one stage in their own half looking for a pass. Walcott, for all his faults, at least had a go through the middle a couple of time. Hoor can't pass though.

It's a strange season. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see Arsenal top again by Sunday night.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 14, 2010, 10:19:28 PM
No idea why where comparing XLS but for the hell of it


Cech/VDS
Ivanovic/Rafael
Terry/Vidic
Alex/Ferdinand
Cole/Evra
Mikel/Valencia
Essien/Scholes
Lampard/Anderson
Malouda/Nani
Drogba/Berbatov
Anelka/Rooney

Bosingwa instead of Ivanovic & Benayoun instead of Mikel when fit?

Seeing that it's a Arsenal thread how many gooners would make the XL fabregas &....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on December 14, 2010, 10:37:39 PM
Not even going to bother with the best XI though on current form Rafael is way ahead of Ivanovic and Bosingwa.

Intriguing game last night but the person who comes out of it all with the least credit is Wenger.
Don't think he has a clue anymore of his best team and what shape to play in. Nasri only became an influence when he moved and Arshavin probably didn't deserve to start on recent form. He was shocking, not for the first time lately. Starting to see why he never got a big move until he was in his late twenties.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 14, 2010, 11:00:52 PM
QuoteSeeing that it's a Arsenal thread how many gooners would make the XL fabregas &....

On form Sagna and Nasri and maybe Chamakh although he looks like he could need a rest...


Anyway looking back Arsenal started without Fabregas, RVP, Vermalean, Diaby, 4 definite starters when all fit under Wenger, so for Arsenal to be top 2 is steady progess..

Wenger hasn't surprised anyone tactically since the 2005 FA Cup final when he bored everyone to tears, funny enough that was Arsenals last trophy....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 17, 2010, 11:24:17 AM
Phew! It's only Barca again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Yes I Would on December 17, 2010, 12:04:53 PM
I hope the pitch in Nou Camp is up to scratch!!
Criminal they didnt top their group! 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 17, 2010, 01:02:59 PM
Didn't deserve to top group..

Good draw all the same.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 17, 2010, 02:24:19 PM
Wee buns as everyone expects the gooners to get beat. Pity we not at home for second leg, need a big first game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 17, 2010, 02:29:01 PM
If they met now, Barca would hammer them out of sight. End of Feb/March the form might be different or Messi may have moved on to West Brom in the Jan sales.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 18, 2010, 01:02:55 PM
Game off

(http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/images/dec_10/gun__1292676834_stadium_snow.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 18, 2010, 03:44:22 PM
Dinnys Christmas ruined?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 27, 2010, 09:23:46 AM
Any chance the Drogba will drop a jar of marmalade on both feet this morning?

I'd say most Arsenal's player wake up on these mornings feeling like a prisoner on a Texas Death Row hoping for a pardon but they just need to ask Philippe Senderos, that pardon never seems to arrive in time...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2010, 12:08:52 PM
Sendo had him in his pocket.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/01/article-1316939-066A4EA10000044D-203_468x363.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 27, 2010, 04:08:13 PM
No f**king about now Gunners !

Do the business !
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: lurganblue on December 27, 2010, 04:20:04 PM
Hoping to watch this match in 3G tonight. Never watched football in 3d. Any good?

I've also done drogba first goal and 2-2. As well as nasri first goal and arsenal 2-0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: fer fox ache on December 27, 2010, 04:25:16 PM
Sadly I now approach these games with the sense of dread of Turkey who's just been give an advent calendar.
More fear than hope
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 27, 2010, 05:30:12 PM
Arsenal at home with Van Persie Fabregas fit, Chelseas worst form since the days of Dave Beasant,Tony Cascarino & Drogbas worst form since the days of Scolari!

Great chance for the Gooners to end that awful record vs the big two tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 27, 2010, 06:19:33 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 27, 2010, 05:30:12 PM
Arsenal at home with Van Persie Fabregas fit, Chelseas worst form since the days of Dave Beasant,Tony Cascarino & Drogbas worst form since the days of Scolari!

Great chance for the Gooners to end that awful record vs the big two tonight.

(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/cwl/lowres/cwln598l.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 27, 2010, 07:23:33 PM
Rosicky, Arshavin, Chamakh on the bench & starting Wilshere, Walcott what do you Gooners make of that?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on December 27, 2010, 07:48:27 PM
Arshavin deserves to be where he is and Walcott probably deserves his chance after a few decent outings lately.
Him and Cashley should be an interesting match up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 27, 2010, 08:47:48 PM
Well deserved HT lead for Arse.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on December 27, 2010, 09:00:01 PM
Fabregas will be sore in the morning. Being clipped and kicked at every opportunity
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 27, 2010, 09:58:28 PM
Never in doubt  :P

That's a razor back gorilla of their back...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 27, 2010, 10:04:39 PM
Any more wacky cartoons for me Dinny  ;)

Wasn't 100% right as i had money on Arsenal to win 2-1  :(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 27, 2010, 10:15:00 PM
(http://facepwn.com/posters/disbelief.jpg)

In fairness Ross4life you did call it but most goons on this board were raised on the pragmatism of Terry Neill, Don Howe and George Graham we just didn't believe but belief is a funny thing and I think Arsenal will really push on from this win, the average age of that side was 23 I think...

And for 18 years of age I thought Wilshere was superb...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 27, 2010, 10:56:12 PM
Won't be getting too carried away by tonights result, two years ago Arsenal beat Chelsea in Stamford bridge & still finished 12 points behind them.

Though saying that i expect Arsenal to win the league Cup (first cup for 6 years) & won't be surprised if they shock the footballing world by knocking Barcelona out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 28, 2010, 05:09:24 PM
Great result - although for a period of time Chelsea defended like 5 year olds in a little kickers league. Positives were plentiful - Wilshire, Song and Fiberglass were very controlling in the midfield - Cesc always oozes class but Wilshire put in a great shift. How so many players fall for that same 270 degree spin that Nasri uses to go back outside on his right foot after cutting inside is funny to me, but he had a good game also. Walcott was fantastic after his early jitters, even if one or two of his final touches werent the best. I was glad he saw the square ball to Fabregas for the second - I wouldnt have seen him scoring it against the advancing Petr Chech. That said - what a finish for the third! I was a bit nervous when Wenger took him off - a majority of our good defense yesterday was based through the attacking threat of walcott on the break. I'd have keep that side intact until maybe the 80th or 85th minute - but then what would I know?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 28, 2010, 06:09:53 PM
great night last night, beer, a win and a curt.  things can only go one way now.


some nice goals from the last 12 months here

Arsenal's Goals of the Year (http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/free-video-arsenal-s-goals-of-the-year)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 28, 2010, 06:15:58 PM
Tremendous result. Chelsea shite.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 28, 2010, 06:19:34 PM
Was that the last time Rosicky Scored? He was straight through yesterday (offside albeit) and still hit the post.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 28, 2010, 06:21:51 PM
Quote from: gerry on December 28, 2010, 06:09:53 PM

some nice goals from the last 12 months here

Arsenal's Goals of the Year (http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/free-video-arsenal-s-goals-of-the-year)

Nasri has to be POTY in this form. Only for Cech's great save his effort last night would've been right up there with the best.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 28, 2010, 06:25:55 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on December 28, 2010, 06:19:34 PM
Was that the last time Rosicky Scored? He was straight through yesterday (offside albeit) and still hit the post.

Completely lost that knack of hitting a scorcher since his injury. Still troubles regarding starting striker - thought Chamakh would've loved those early crosses.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2010, 10:23:39 AM
6 goal win away to Wigan tonight and the Gunners are top.

Return to the scene where Flappyhandski got his name.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 29, 2010, 01:06:41 PM
its a while since we scored 6 goals
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 29, 2010, 04:33:09 PM
Chelsea won this fixture 0-6 so it's possible.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2010, 04:47:34 PM
Houl on, 5-0 will do. Phew!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Worker on December 29, 2010, 05:29:50 PM
50/1 for 5nil.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2010, 06:20:05 PM
Or a repeat of the 3-2 win for Wigan earlier in the year - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6NUKfhmwoA

50/1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 29, 2010, 06:30:37 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 29, 2010, 06:20:05 PM
Or a repeat of the 3-2 win for Wigan earlier in the year - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6NUKfhmwoA

50/1

How many of that Arsenal team will play tonight 4/5? & that was Wigans one & only PL win over Arse.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2010, 06:42:02 PM
Try not to take posts so seriously my good man.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 29, 2010, 07:10:45 PM
8 changes for Arse tonight
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2010, 07:22:36 PM
Fabianski,
Eboue, Squillaci, Koscielny, Sagna,
Diaby, Rosicky, Denilson,
Bendtner, Chamakh, Arshavin.

Subs: Szczesny, Nasri, Vela, Walcott, Wilshere, Djourou, Clichy.

Mad changes. Van Persie out because he played a match! Thought Djourou was fantastic v Chelsea. I understand the need for rest but I'd've thought the confidence from 2 nights ago was enough reason to keep a very similar team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 29, 2010, 07:29:09 PM
Mad Changes alright - this is the time to ride the crest of the wave. Squillachi gives me the shits sometimes, very poor looking across the midfield in comparison to what we just played.

Well, time will tell.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 29, 2010, 07:47:10 PM
Wigan make just one change sure to be fatigued compared to the fresh gooners side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2010, 08:05:03 PM
Ooooh v controversial. Wigan player takes a dive in the box. Penalty scored.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 29, 2010, 08:18:14 PM
Watched the replay 4 times, the slightest of touches from the arse defender tripped the Wigan man, correct decision by the ref.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2010, 08:25:56 PM
Watch it a 5th time and you'll see that the fictional contact was outside the box.

1-1.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2010, 08:31:51 PM
2-1. Arshavin takes the piss for 40 mins, then scores a screamer and sets up Bender.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2010, 08:39:03 PM
2-1 up at HT.

Very sluggish for the first half hour. Wilshere then came on for Diaby, why not sure, and Arsenal started to physically impose themselves. Wigan were rocky towards the end and Arsenal could easily have been two or three up. Chamackh ropey first touch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 29, 2010, 08:41:05 PM
I thought that was poor pass by arshavin that fell kindly to Bender. Wigan are piss poor Arse should win this at a canter.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 29, 2010, 08:41:35 PM
only 4 more goals to go then
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2010, 09:08:11 PM
Arsenal really need that 3rd goal. Don't trust the defence with N'Zogbia about.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2010, 09:22:16 PM
Wigan getting closer and closer. Backs to the wall. 75 mins. They deserve a draw - played better than Arsenal for most of the game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2010, 09:23:55 PM
Headbutt on Wilshere sees red card for N'Zogbia.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2010, 09:25:55 PM
Make a couple of changes Arsene ffs. Tis all Wigan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2010, 09:26:59 PM
....and there it is 2-2. Corner. Was coming a mile off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 29, 2010, 09:28:45 PM
Just switched it over when wigan scored, Fabianski all at sea for the goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2010, 09:29:08 PM
Nasri and Walcott on for Arshavin and Wilshere.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2010, 09:43:35 PM
Finished 2-2. Arsenal were never in control of that game and a fair result even though their two goals were a dive and an OG. Handball in the penalty box also ignored. All the same, didn't think Arsenal deserved the three points. Wigan worked their arses off.

Still, an improvement on last year....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 29, 2010, 09:43:56 PM
Only watched the last 15mins but Arse must have been terrible in 2nd half to draw with that wigan side?

Can only blame one man. Wenger for making so many changes!! though they should have got a peno at the end.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2010, 10:02:46 PM
Another bad day at the office for Arsene. That side he sent out should've been good enough but just when Arsenal needed reinforcements he sat there and waited until the inevitable equaliser arrived before he made a move.

Birmingham away next.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 29, 2010, 11:20:32 PM
This is a disaster. Why Oh Why can the average armchair fan see what Wenger cannot. A few changes to freshen things up - sure... 8 changes across the board - and in the heart of our most dysfunctional area (the defence) is just folly. Strength in depth is one thing - but you cant find any continuity with 8 changes. Squillachi again was awful - and Wilshire coming back in for Diaby added a little something to us. We were in control for plenty of the game - but with that idiot at the back we were never comfortable. Squilliachi actually makes the other defenders worse. No doubt about it the penalty can be forgiven for being given in real time - but it was a farce in slow motion. Not to mention the handball from Nasri's free kick right at the end.

Fecking Depressing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on December 30, 2010, 02:43:25 AM
Where's Dinny to analyse this? United's midfield might be mediocre but Arsenal can't win the league with that "defense".

If United don't win it I hope Arsenal do but I can't see Arsenal finishing above United.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 30, 2010, 10:05:35 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on December 29, 2010, 11:20:32 PM
This is a disaster. Why Oh Why can the average armchair fan see what Wenger cannot. A few changes to freshen things up - sure... 8 changes across the board - and in the heart of our most dysfunctional area (the defence) is just folly. Strength in depth is one thing - but you cant find any continuity with 8 changes. Squillachi again was awful - and Wilshire coming back in for Diaby added a little something to us. We were in control for plenty of the game - but with that idiot at the back we were never comfortable. Squilliachi actually makes the other defenders worse. No doubt about it the penalty can be forgiven for being given in real time - but it was a farce in slow motion. Not to mention the handball from Nasri's free kick right at the end.

Fecking Depressing.

Too much pussy-footing around the first 11. Djourou finally looked liked the answer against Chelsea, yet he's rested 2 days later. Bad judgement. The FA Cup is coming up - there's a time to rest a few. It's all very disappointing from Wenger. Was Song injured?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: centre 3/4s on December 30, 2010, 11:11:51 AM
Same old shite one result and for a minute ye thought they had finally turned the corner and were genuine title challengers and the next minute go and blow there chances to a pub team. Those two clowns at the back need roaded in january every time they play they are pure dung, saw koschelney play one descent game since he came which by the way is one more than scillachi. If arsenal dont win something this year and i dont mean the league cup then surely Arsene has to hit the road, to be honest he has made more mistakes this year than any other season and to say players need rested dosen't sell with me!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 30, 2010, 04:31:24 PM
Arsene leaving is not the answer. There arent too many better than him with the coaching merry go round that is football. I'd rather have him stay myself. Who would you want in place? Many of those players are there because of Wenger (I realise that statement could backfire spectacularly).

O'Neill - tell him to buy Roger Johnson from Birmingham and start playing 3 out of Nasri, Fiberglass, Wilshire, Song, Walcott and Rosicky ( :-\ ), across the middle every game. Will ya?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 31, 2010, 04:23:49 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on December 30, 2010, 02:43:25 AM
Where's Dinny to analyse this? United's midfield might be mediocre but Arsenal can't win the league with that "defense".

If United don't win it I hope Arsenal do but I can't see Arsenal finishing above United.

Away for the week so didn't see the Wigan game and in fairness Seanie you'll never see anyone on this thread singing the virtues of the Arsenal defence. Clichy in particular has gone back at a rate of knots and Sagna/Eboue both lack defensive responsibility when they attack and as for the middle of their defense many including me believe Djourou and Vermaelan will be the solution but have played zero games together, same as Gibbs who will make left back his own.

Anyhow Wenger was right to rotate against Wigan but 3/4 players max but I believe he was trying to manage injury recovery hence Djourou, Walcott and RVP rested but also with a January transfer window coming up he was also trying to manage ego's Arshavin, Bendtner and Eboue by giving them a start.

If Arsenal beat Birmingham them 7pts from the 3 games is excellent and he will be vindicated, lose to Birmingham and I feel he'll receive more flak than he deserves.

You don't sack managers mid-season, you sit down a the end and review, if Arsenal fail to deliver a trophy then the solutions are simple - Wenger abandons his project or he moves upstairs and appoints Steve Bould as his successor.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 08:08:10 PM
From www.mirrorfootball.co.uk

Wenger fuming as Arsenal denied penalty at Wigan after a MANCHESTER UNITED player handled the ball

Sub Samir Nasri cried foul when Wigan's on-loan Tom Cleverley raised his arm in the wall to block his free kick as Gunners tried for the win that would have put them level at the top.

Cleverley leapt and the ball clearly struck him, with Wenger saying: "I did not see it but Nasri is adamant that it was 100 per cent a penalty."


(http://i54.tinypic.com/20zdzqc.jpg)

More great stuff from Wenger/Nasri  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 31, 2010, 09:35:14 PM
Did Wenger or Nasri say it was Cleverly that handed it?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 31, 2010, 09:39:17 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 08:08:10 PM
From www.mirrorfootball.co.uk

Wenger fuming as Arsenal denied penalty at Wigan after a MANCHESTER UNITED player handled the ball

Sub Samir Nasri cried foul when Wigan's on-loan Tom Cleverley raised his arm in the wall to block his free kick as Gunners tried for the win that would have put them level at the top.

Cleverley leapt and the ball clearly struck him, with Wenger saying: "I did not see it but Nasri is adamant that it was 100 per cent a penalty."


(http://i54.tinypic.com/20zdzqc.jpg)

More great stuff from Wenger/Nasri  ::)


? When did Nasri/Wenger say that??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 10:01:45 PM
So are you claiming it's poor journalism? much like the piece O'neill posted about fergie re-calling loaned players.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 31, 2010, 10:03:39 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 10:01:45 PM
So are you claiming it's poor journalism? much like the piece O'neill posted about fergie re-calling loaned players.

Sigh. Happy New Year Rossy!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 31, 2010, 10:06:30 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 10:01:45 PM
So are you claiming it's poor journalism? much like the piece O'neill posted about fergie re-calling loaned players.

Extremely poor posting I thought.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 31, 2010, 10:06:30 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 10:01:45 PM
So are you claiming it's poor journalism? much like the piece O'neill posted about fergie re-calling loaned players.

Extremely poor posting I thought.

Extremely indeed! Tony Pulis also re-called Tonge and Pugh from loans at Preston due to the sacking. i suppose fergie told him to do this also?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on December 31, 2010, 10:26:07 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 31, 2010, 10:06:30 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 10:01:45 PM
So are you claiming it's poor journalism? much like the piece O'neill posted about fergie re-calling loaned players.

Extremely poor posting I thought.

Extremely indeed! Tony Pulis also re-called Tonge and Pugh from loans at Preston due to the sacking. i suppose fergie told him to do this also?

Pulis has been described today as a "close friend" of Ferguson.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 31, 2010, 10:30:51 PM
Indeed - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1343019/Tony-Pulis-follows-pal-Sir-Alex-Fergusons-lead-scrapping-Preston-loans.html

If Fat Sam had a job he'd be getting the call too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 31, 2010, 10:26:07 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 31, 2010, 10:06:30 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 10:01:45 PM
So are you claiming it's poor journalism? much like the piece O'neill posted about fergie re-calling loaned players.

Extremely poor posting I thought.


Extremely indeed! Tony Pulis also re-called Tonge and Pugh from loans at Preston due to the sacking. i suppose fergie told him to do this also?

Pulis has been described today as a "close friend" of Ferguson.

Which PL manager isn't, Wenger perhaps?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on December 31, 2010, 10:37:24 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 31, 2010, 10:26:07 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 10:18:28 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 31, 2010, 10:06:30 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 10:01:45 PM
So are you claiming it's poor journalism? much like the piece O'neill posted about fergie re-calling loaned players.

Extremely poor posting I thought.


Extremely indeed! Tony Pulis also re-called Tonge and Pugh from loans at Preston due to the sacking. i suppose fergie told him to do this also?

Pulis has been described today as a "close friend" of Ferguson.

Which PL manager isn't, Wenger perhaps?

So every PL manager is a "close friend" bar Wenger? Jaysus.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 31, 2010, 10:39:28 PM
close friends my hole, they are shit f**king feard of him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 31, 2010, 10:43:57 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 31, 2010, 10:39:28 PM
close friends my hole, they are shit f**king feard of him.

The one PL manager that Red Face feared was Jose Mourinho. Never got involved in spats/mind games with him cos he knew he d end up second best !
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 31, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 31, 2010, 10:43:57 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 31, 2010, 10:39:28 PM
close friends my hole, they are shit f**king feard of him.

The one PL manager that Red Face feared was Jose Mourinho. Never got involved in spats/mind games with him cos he knew he d end up second best !

He was a tougher nut to crack but once he became friends with him Chelsea finished 2nd.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 01, 2011, 05:44:38 PM
Shaping up to be a bad tempered affair!!

VP scores as I post!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 01, 2011, 06:07:42 PM
Yep it's definitely a downside to this team. Lesser sides know if they fcuk it into them, Arsenal might fold. Didn't happen under Vieira, Adams et al. Also get the impression refs like to see it happening too!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 01, 2011, 06:09:22 PM
Arsenal getting the rub of the green today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 01, 2011, 06:12:16 PM
I didn't see the incident.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 01, 2011, 06:13:04 PM
Yer balls! Van persie has the touch of a rapist today... He could have had 4 already.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 01, 2011, 06:17:38 PM
Wish some hoor would refuse to pass inside the box and just have a thud at it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 01, 2011, 06:19:24 PM
Well if your watching it on ESPN the two main taking points of that half will be the award of the free kick that led to the goal & the non award of the penalty to Birmingham.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 01, 2011, 06:21:40 PM
I'm watching it on fox sports en espanol: so I've no f**king clue what they are saying.

I did understand Gooooolllllllllllllllll de Arsenal though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 01, 2011, 06:45:13 PM
Bowyer with a dirty stamp on a black player. There's a surprise.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 01, 2011, 06:46:31 PM
How many are they going to miss??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 01, 2011, 06:48:43 PM
You know what usually happens now...1-1 or 2-1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 01, 2011, 06:49:32 PM
That's it game over!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 01, 2011, 06:58:05 PM
Build up to the third was sexy football.

I'd never tire of punching lee boywer. Nor Barry ferguson.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 01, 2011, 06:58:16 PM
That was a fantastic move for the 3rd.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 01, 2011, 06:59:30 PM
Lee Bowyer is one w@n*3r!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 01, 2011, 07:12:16 PM
Really hate to speak too soon but fabianski is turning into the real deal for me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 01, 2011, 07:13:14 PM
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sat1.1/Birmingham_Arsenal3.php
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 01, 2011, 07:23:20 PM
So is Wenger justified resting the 8 v Wigan? Now looks like a gamble that just fell short.

Some nice football between Nasri and Fabregas tonight. Song makes things a little more stable.

Fairly taught Fergie and Utd a lesson on how to win at St Andrews.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 01, 2011, 07:44:28 PM
QuoteSo is Wenger justified resting the 8 v Wigan? Now looks like a gamble that just fell short.

Absolutely, Arsenal looked fresh and hungry, Birmingham tired and irritable, no other side has had 3 games in 6 days. So 2 wins and a draw is actually 6 points more than compared to the same fixtures last season and a good weeks work.

Should have won 5 or 6-0 Birmingham are an awful side and are set up not to lose and Bowyer/Thomas and Johnson all lucky not to see red.

Agree with Puckoon Fabanski is looking better and better with each game and is obviously gaining in confidence from an extended run, hopefully the fish will be sold in January.

I think Wenger has probably now has his first XI with only TV missing with Arshavin/Walcott inter-changeable and Diaby,Gibbes, Koscielny and Chamakh putting players under pressure. Rosicky, Bendtner, Squillaci and Denilson all good squad players. Ramsey will strengthen the midfield options on his return. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on January 02, 2011, 12:33:07 PM
Dinny - thanks for the earlier reply. On the United thread you won't see many (well maybe one) singing the praises of the United midfield!

In a "normal" season I'd be very confident that United would see off the Others and take the title. Arsenal have a suspect back and have no experience of a close title run in. Man City side are too reliant on one player, play a bit too negatively and have no experience of contending for anything. Chelsea have all the experience, their best players coming back but I'd normally expect United not to drop 7 more points than them in the second half of the season. However, United are not the animal they've been for most of the last 18 years or so and crucially, other teams seem to know this. You rightly point out that its Ferguson's management alone that has United where they are but if they get hit with one or two more injuries United could be goosed.

All in all I think any of the four teams I've mentioned can win it (don't think Spurs can win playing badly but as good as anyone on their day). United are in a good position but have a tougher second half than the first was so the points in the bank could evaporate easily. Will some team(s) take off in the second half of the season or will 81 points win it?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 02, 2011, 02:03:20 PM
I find it staggering the way Utd fans underestimate their midfield. They may lack flair but they have a combination of every other quality needed. Carrick may not be at the same level as 2 years ago but he quietly does everything asked of him. Completes most passes, involved defensively and in attack, Utd are poorer without him. Unfortunately a high percentage of their fans don't seem to realise that. Fergie's no mug though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on January 02, 2011, 02:18:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 02, 2011, 02:03:20 PM
I find it staggering the way Utd fans underestimate their midfield. They may lack flair but they have a combination of every other quality needed. Carrick may not be at the same level as 2 years ago but he quietly does everything asked of him. Completes most passes, involved defensively and in attack, Utd are poorer without him. Unfortunately a high percentage of their fans don't seem to realise that. Ferries' no mug though.

Yourself and Ross4life are in agreement on that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2011, 02:35:08 PM
O'Neill I know where you're coming from but Man United's midfield is purely functional compared to previous reincarnations and lack creativity when Scholes is not playing. When I think of midfield play in England the benchmark will always be Giggs, Keane, Scholes and Beckham. In the years after that they had the majestic play of Ronaldo, so it's a pretty high benchmark and their current lot just don't live up to those standards.

Watching Chelsea v Villa at the moment and they've lost something, just doesn't seem to be the same hunger, definitely heading towards a transition period (something only Ferguson has truly managed with success and Wenger if he claims the EPL).

It's a funny league this year but all the more enjoyable, the quality has dropped but Man United have an amazing belief that just carries them from game to game but I think that belief will be tested when they actually lose a game, the longer that goes on there will only be one winner but they have away games against Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and the Spuds (this is the key game imho, Spurs are flying playing the best football, a win there for Spurs will really open up the league, I rate this Spurs side and they have a great team spirit and with VDV and Assou-Ekotto they have two of the players of the season, bring in Beckham and they now have added a little bit of experience and more hype (a dangerous thing but can be beneficial).

Man City - will revert to type under Mancini and will drop too many points from negative play, bet your bottom dollar they will arrive at Ashburton set-up for a draw.

Arsenal are the dark horses, suspect defence but not suspect as many lazy pundits think especially with TV to come back, if Arsenal win the Carling Cup it might just propel them to greater things...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 02, 2011, 03:53:10 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2011, 02:35:08 PM
O'Neill I know where you're coming from but Man United's midfield is purely functional compared to previous reincarnations and lack creativity when Scholes is not playing. When I think of midfield play in England the benchmark will always be Giggs, Keane, Scholes and Beckham. In the years after that they had the majestic play of Ronaldo, so it's a pretty high benchmark and their current lot just don't live up to those standards.



That's the problem there! trying to compare United's midfield or any other with the above mentioned.

& do agree with O'Neill (no surprise) that United's current midfield lack Flair but have guile & winners though yesterday they were absolutely woeful!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 02, 2011, 04:42:39 PM
Some fair, and mature analysis on this thread!

For the record, yesterday's win v Brum is probably more telling than the win against Chelsea in my opinion. Arsenal showing a bit of balls at last, which is what cost them in the past!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 02, 2011, 04:49:05 PM
If you were to ask me now, CL or Premiership, it would be the Prem hands down.

Being put out by Barca wont be a bad thing in my view as we can go for the Premiership head on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 02, 2011, 08:34:48 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2011, 02:35:08 PM
O'Neill I know where you're coming from but Man United's midfield is purely functional compared to previous reincarnations and lack creativity when Scholes is not playing. When I think of midfield play in England the benchmark will always be Giggs, Keane, Scholes and Beckham. In the years after that they had the majestic play of Ronaldo, so it's a pretty high benchmark and their current lot just don't live up to those standards.



I don't see why that comparison needs to be made. If you're thinking of in terms of flair and attacking tendencies this year's model don't match up but in the case of workrate and efficiency, the class of Carrick/Fletcher/Park/Anderson/Scholes are unrivalled. Maybe it says more about Arsenal but the Gunners' old midfield stood toe-to-toe with the Utd midfield. The Fletcher brigade have Arsenal's number every time. Also, Utd's start to the league is unprecedented in their own history. Near the top of the scoring charts, near the bottom of goals conceded, unbeaten - they're no mugs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 02, 2011, 09:05:59 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 02, 2011, 04:42:39 PM
Some fair, and mature analysis on this thread!


Exactly:

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on January 02, 2011, 09:13:51 PM
QuoteWhen I think of midfield play in England the benchmark will always be Giggs, Keane, Scholes and Beckham.

Never mind England it's hard to think of many better midfield 4 in the world.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2011, 11:54:23 PM
QuoteI don't see why that comparison needs to be made

Because that is Man United's legacy, same way many call for Wenger's head...

United position is in term's of natural footballing ability is unfathomable imho, but when you consider their culture and their manager it's easy to understand but I still believe that the current midfield options are more reflected in the West Brom performance than the Arsenal victory, those guys just can't perform away from OT.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: leaveherinsir on January 03, 2011, 12:11:05 AM
Quote from: under the bar on January 02, 2011, 09:13:51 PM
QuoteWhen I think of midfield play in England the benchmark will always be Giggs, Keane, Scholes and Beckham.

Never mind England it's hard to think of many better midfield 4 in the world.
Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi
Ljunberg, Viera, Petit, Overmars
Viera,Petit. Deschamps, Zidane

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 03, 2011, 01:02:24 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2011, 11:54:23 PM
those guys just can't perform away from OT.

They're the only side unbeaten away from home.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 03, 2011, 01:47:01 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 03, 2011, 01:02:24 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2011, 11:54:23 PM
those guys just can't perform away from OT.

They're the only side unbeaten away from home.

Let's compare with the best Barcelona by taking a look at their away record in the CL for the last 2 years:

Barca P 12 W2 D9 L1  hammered by Inter & drawing with the likes of Rubin Kazan & Copenhagen...

Man United P11 W 9 D1 L1 injury time defeat to Bayern Munich & a 0-0 draw with Inter... United seem to be performing ok away from home?

Want to see how Arsenal,Chelsea,United PL away form compares the last 12 months?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 03, 2011, 09:06:21 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 03, 2011, 01:02:24 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2011, 11:54:23 PM
those guys just can't perform away from OT.

They're the only side unbeaten away from home.

Yea sure Birmigham were unbeaten at home last year. If one is to isolate away performances only and not results (blah! blah! results business blah! blah!) they've been awful and have only 2 wins all season, one of those defied belief. That normally is not title winning form, more competitive season this year so who knows but if they only get two more away wins all season and remain unbeaten in the other away fixtures they won''t win the EPL imho.

Anyhow point taken and there's not a team in the EPL that wouldn't love to have their results and perhaps their midfield is doing something right...

Back to the Arse, so would the goons be happy with a draw on Wednesday night?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: StGallsGAA on January 03, 2011, 11:31:01 AM
QuoteLjunberg, Viera, Petit, Overmars

That midfield really set Europe alight!!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 03, 2011, 12:04:15 PM
Big game Wednesday night. City will be hurting at how Le Arse turned them over at theirs. A draw suits Utd.

Then Leeds at home in the Cup, then away to Ipswich in the other Cup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 03, 2011, 01:46:44 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 03, 2011, 09:06:21 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 03, 2011, 01:02:24 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2011, 11:54:23 PM
those guys just can't perform away from OT.

They're the only side unbeaten away from home.

Yea sure Birmigham were unbeaten at home last year. If one is to isolate away performances only and not results (blah! blah! results business blah! blah!) they've been awful and have only 2 wins all season, one of those defied belief. That normally is not title winning form, more competitive season this year so who knows but if they only get two more away wins all season and remain unbeaten in the other away fixtures they won''t win the EPL imho.

Anyhow point taken and there's not a team in the EPL that wouldn't love to have their results and perhaps their midfield is doing something right...

Back to the Arse, so would the goons be happy with a draw on Wednesday night?


Gooners need to beat City on Wednesday night.

Keep the pressure on them and Utd.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 04, 2011, 11:36:47 AM
I don't think it would be a bad result if Arsenal only draw tomorrow night but it wil be important not to allow a big gap develop betweeen Arsenal and Man United if they are to entertain any thoughts of challenging for the title..

And Arsenal must be contenders of Fergie is now coming out with his usual pop psychology dribble..

QuoteSir Alex Ferguson has slammed Arsene Wenger's criticism of Stoke ahead of Manchester United's clash with the Potters on Tuesday night.

Red Devils chief Ferguson praised Stoke counterpart Tony Pulis for the way he prepares his side and also for the way in which he copes with the occasional question marks rival bosses raise against it.

Wenger, who Ferguson has enjoyed some memorable years of sparring with, was named by the Scot as one such manager.

"People have criticised their physical style of play but they stick to what they do best," said Ferguson.

"I suppose Arsene Wenger has been one of their main critics, but then he does go off on a tangent at times. For instance, he criticised our pitch after they lost here before Christmas and I was at a loss to understand why.

"I have a great admiration for Tony and the wry way he rides the criticism levelled at his team. If anything the criticism galvanises the players."

Wenger, who was incensed by the Ryan Shawcross challenge which led to Aaron Ramsey's broken leg last year, has previously accused Pulis's side of employing "rugby style" tactics and suggested some were "cowards" after a bruising encounter in 2008.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 05, 2011, 08:28:03 AM
Manchester City have not won away at Arsenal since beating them 3-2 at Highbury in October 1975 through goals from Asa Hartford, Rodney Marsh and Joe Royle. Their winless run spans 27 games in all competitions.

Can city beat the bogey tonight?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 05, 2011, 08:50:44 AM
Quote from: ross4life on January 05, 2011, 08:28:03 AM
Manchester City have not won away at Arsenal since beating them 3-2 at Highbury in October 1975 through goals from Asa Hartford, Rodney Marsh and Joe Royle. Their winless run spans 27 games in all competitions.

Can city beat the bogey tonight?

They have a good chance.........but then again the Gunners might put them to the same sword Chelsea got.

Time will tell...............
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 05, 2011, 10:36:34 AM
With United winning last night, a win is a MUST for the Gunners to keep up momentum/pressure against the best team in Manchester at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2011, 07:36:12 PM
Arsenal:
Fabianski,
Sagna, Djourou, Koscielny, Clichy,
Song, Wilshere, Fabregas, Nasri, Walcott,
van Persie.

Subs: Szczesny, Rosicky, Denilson, Squillaci, Arshavin, Chamakh, Bendtner.

Man City:
Hart, Richards, Kompany, Toure, Zabaleta, De Jong, Barry, Toure Yaya, Milner, Tevez, Jo.
Subs: Given, Bridge, Wright-Phillips, Adam Johnson, Boateng, Lescott, Vieira.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2011, 07:49:32 PM
Jaysus, glaring miss after 2 mins for Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2011, 07:54:50 PM
Van Persie off the post 8 mins.

House on fire but no goals.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2011, 07:56:12 PM
Wilshere nearly 9 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 05, 2011, 07:58:47 PM
any links as p2p coming up with an error
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on January 05, 2011, 07:59:58 PM
Arsenal giving shitty a lesson, but they need to score while on top. I watching it on Soppcast 105144
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2011, 08:00:09 PM
http://goalstreams.webs.com/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2011, 08:01:52 PM
Those first ten minutes were reminiscent of Arsenal v Barca last year when Arsenal were overrun. Finished 2-2....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 05, 2011, 08:02:38 PM
top man, just in from work.  sounds to be a good game going by 5 live
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on January 05, 2011, 08:17:19 PM
How in under god have Arsenal not scored at least once in this game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2011, 08:17:38 PM
I know. Post rattled again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 05, 2011, 08:21:17 PM
Keano in the crowd looks like he came from the cattle mart
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2011, 08:26:25 PM
City will be very pleased to have survived this with a clean sheet so far.

Arsenal defence would need to stay alert.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 05, 2011, 08:35:41 PM
QuoteArsenal defence would need to stay alert

tev nearly got one in at the end
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 05, 2011, 08:38:40 PM
City - Well, Tevez - is always dangerous on the break. He has talent to burn. Arsenal well in control however, just not scoring. Hart was dead on his feet for Fabregas' post hit.

Big Yaya is scary when he gets on a run too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 05, 2011, 08:41:01 PM
City won't change their tactics in 2nd half of two banks of four & hope to hit arse on the break! they are like the Birmingham with billion pounds.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on January 05, 2011, 08:49:06 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 05, 2011, 08:38:40 PM
City - Well, Tevez - is always dangerous on the break. He has talent to burn. Arsenal well in control however, just not scoring. Hart was dead on his feet for Fabregas' post hit.

Big Yaya is scary when he gets on a run too.

Always said he was a very good footballer, not just a destroyer. He's no Xavi, but he can play a lot more than the likes of Mascherano, De Jong and Barry.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 05, 2011, 09:01:51 PM
Quote from: paco on January 05, 2011, 08:49:06 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 05, 2011, 08:38:40 PM
City - Well, Tevez - is always dangerous on the break. He has talent to burn. Arsenal well in control however, just not scoring. Hart was dead on his feet for Fabregas' post hit.

Big Yaya is scary when he gets on a run too.

Always said he was a very good footballer, not just a destroyer. He's no Xavi, but he can play a lot more than the likes of Mascherano, De Jong and Barry.

Must be a culture shock for Yaya to play in this City team compared to Barca
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2011, 09:04:21 PM
Arsenal need to stay calm.

City'll try every trick in the book to wind the clock down.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2011, 09:08:05 PM
This is more one-sided than any match at the Emirates this season. It'd be shattering if City nicked one.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 05, 2011, 09:08:44 PM
It will be shattering indeed - and Adam Johnston is just the man to make it happen for them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2011, 09:10:47 PM
What changes? Arshavin for a bit of unpredictability? Cham or Bender for the route one?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 05, 2011, 09:12:52 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 05, 2011, 09:08:05 PM
This is more one-sided than any match at the Emirates this season. It'd be shattering if City nicked one.

62% gooners
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2011, 09:13:10 PM
More support required down the wings...(Moreso the left - Walcott unlucky to be taken off)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 05, 2011, 09:14:21 PM
theo not happy
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2011, 09:15:01 PM
Wally shows emotion shocker!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 05, 2011, 09:15:35 PM
Nasri hasnt been great this game. Wilshire is everywhere, though starting to tire
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2011, 09:22:53 PM
Why don't they shoot when they have the chance?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 05, 2011, 09:24:41 PM
Kolo Toure to score and cap a hell of a performance. :-\
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 05, 2011, 09:25:57 PM
shared points i guess
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 05, 2011, 09:35:15 PM
What f**king stupidity.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2011, 09:36:08 PM
City fella didn't do much wrong.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2011, 09:36:24 PM
giving the title to united now. Ferguson laughing right now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 05, 2011, 09:36:54 PM
Not at all. Bacary had 2 goes at him and went back for a third.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on January 05, 2011, 09:38:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 05, 2011, 09:36:08 PM
City fella didn't do much wrong.

agree ONeill, handbags mostly, but Sanga was just a silly ballox for bending into him with the head
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 05, 2011, 09:40:50 PM
Bit of a discussion between Mancini and Fiberglass at the end there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2011, 09:41:26 PM
"Boring boring City"

Great night for Utd but plenty of games left.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 05, 2011, 09:42:53 PM
Couldnt be a better night for Man United - bar the teams getting into a point deducting brawl.

Still though - a draw isnt a very bad result, and the performance was fantastic. Joe Hart, Toure, Kompany and De-Jong kept it from being 4 zip to the gunners.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 05, 2011, 09:43:54 PM
Ah well negativity wins out...

Performance not bad, deserved 3 points but you don't always get what you deserve and the two Toure's were very good for City.

Sagna the clown, Zabaleta did nothing, will win his appeal hopefully.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 05, 2011, 10:36:38 PM
Looks like it Utds league to loose.

Arsenal to run them a close 2nd.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 05, 2011, 10:37:48 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 05, 2011, 09:43:54 PM
Ah well negativity wins out...

Performance not bad, deserved 3 points but you don't always get what you deserve and the two Toure's were very good for City.

Sagna the clown, Zabaleta did nothing, will win his appeal hopefully.

Absolutely ridiculous by Sagna.

However Zab must have said something really hateful to him to get that reaction.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 05, 2011, 11:53:47 PM
If Mourinho was manager of City tonight it would have been heralded as some sort of Zen masterclass in defensive play.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 06, 2011, 12:05:59 AM
Quote from: Minder on January 05, 2011, 11:53:47 PM
If Mourinho was manager of City tonight it would have been heralded as some sort of Zen masterclass in defensive play.

A Mourinho team would have more desire to win the game. Mancini played for a draw & got it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 06, 2011, 12:33:53 AM
Do any Arsenal fans scream 'Shoot for fucks sake' at the TV? I was watching for a while and its very frustrating. They play lovely football, but Jaysus, have a pop.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2011, 09:57:35 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 06, 2011, 12:33:53 AM
Do any Arsenal fans scream 'Shoot for f**ks sake' at the TV? I was watching for a while and its very frustrating. They play lovely football, but Jaysus, have a pop.

Ah welcome to our world AZ, we're just conditioned to it..

...to sound like another poster, you do realise Arsenal have the most shots on target and the highest on target to shot ratio in the EPL....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 06, 2011, 06:28:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2011, 09:57:35 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 06, 2011, 12:33:53 AM
Do any Arsenal fans scream 'Shoot for f**ks sake' at the TV? I was watching for a while and its very frustrating. They play lovely football, but Jaysus, have a pop.

Ah welcome to our world AZ, we're just conditioned to it..

...to sound like another poster, you do realise Arsenal have the most shots on target and the highest on target to shot ratio in the EPL....

Doesn't say much for the Arse strikers? midfielder Nasri top scorer this season & fabregas the season before.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: StGallsGAA on January 06, 2011, 09:22:29 PM
QuoteDoesn't say much for the Arse strikers? midfielder Nasri top scorer this season & fabregas the season before.

Peanuts .... monkeys .......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: supersarsfields on January 06, 2011, 09:39:27 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 06, 2011, 06:28:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2011, 09:57:35 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 06, 2011, 12:33:53 AM
Do any Arsenal fans scream 'Shoot for f**ks sake' at the TV? I was watching for a while and its very frustrating. They play lovely football, but Jaysus, have a pop.

Ah welcome to our world AZ, we're just conditioned to it..

...to sound like another poster, you do realise Arsenal have the most shots on target and the highest on target to shot ratio in the EPL....

Doesn't say much for the Arse strikers? midfielder Nasri top scorer this season & fabregas the season before.

Mustn't have said much for United's strikers for a couple of years there when Ronnie was top scoring either then!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 06, 2011, 09:55:43 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on January 06, 2011, 09:39:27 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 06, 2011, 06:28:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2011, 09:57:35 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 06, 2011, 12:33:53 AM
Do any Arsenal fans scream 'Shoot for f**ks sake' at the TV? I was watching for a while and its very frustrating. They play lovely football, but Jaysus, have a pop.

Ah welcome to our world AZ, we're just conditioned to it..

...to sound like another poster, you do realise Arsenal have the most shots on target and the highest on target to shot ratio in the EPL....

Doesn't say much for the Arse strikers? midfielder Nasri top scorer this season & fabregas the season before.

Mustn't have said much for United's strikers for a couple of years there when Ronnie was top scoring either then!

Exactly!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: StGallsGAA on January 06, 2011, 10:06:21 PM
QuoteMustn't have said much for United's strikers for a couple of years there when Ronnie was top scoring either then!

Exactly!!

If Nassi sees half of Ronaldos 42 in the season he'll be doing more than well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: supersarsfields on January 06, 2011, 10:12:37 PM
He also top scored with 23 and 26.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 06, 2011, 10:18:51 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on January 06, 2011, 09:39:27 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 06, 2011, 06:28:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2011, 09:57:35 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 06, 2011, 12:33:53 AM
Do any Arsenal fans scream 'Shoot for f**ks sake' at the TV? I was watching for a while and its very frustrating. They play lovely football, but Jaysus, have a pop.

Ah welcome to our world AZ, we're just conditioned to it..

...to sound like another poster, you do realise Arsenal have the most shots on target and the highest on target to shot ratio in the EPL....

Doesn't say much for the Arse strikers? midfielder Nasri top scorer this season & fabregas the season before.

Mustn't have said much for United's strikers for a couple of years there when Ronnie was top scoring either then!

Do i need to post the poor return of goals for the Arsenal strikers last two seasons? in 2008 the year Ronaldo scored 42 goals United 2 strikers scored 37 goals between something Arsenal strikers won't do this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 06, 2011, 10:25:01 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 06, 2011, 10:18:51 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on January 06, 2011, 09:39:27 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 06, 2011, 06:28:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2011, 09:57:35 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 06, 2011, 12:33:53 AM
Do any Arsenal fans scream 'Shoot for f**ks sake' at the TV? I was watching for a while and its very frustrating. They play lovely football, but Jaysus, have a pop.

Ah welcome to our world AZ, we're just conditioned to it..

...to sound like another poster, you do realise Arsenal have the most shots on target and the highest on target to shot ratio in the EPL....

Doesn't say much for the Arse strikers? midfielder Nasri top scorer this season & fabregas the season before.

Mustn't have said much for United's strikers for a couple of years there when Ronnie was top scoring either then!

Do i need to post the poor return of goals for the Arsenal strikers last two seasons? in 2008 the year Ronaldo scored 42 goals United 2 strikers scored 37 goals between something Arsenal strikers won't do this season.

Big Odds  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: supersarsfields on January 06, 2011, 10:36:36 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 06, 2011, 10:18:51 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on January 06, 2011, 09:39:27 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 06, 2011, 06:28:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2011, 09:57:35 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 06, 2011, 12:33:53 AM
Do any Arsenal fans scream 'Shoot for f**ks sake' at the TV? I was watching for a while and its very frustrating. They play lovely football, but Jaysus, have a pop.

Ah welcome to our world AZ, we're just conditioned to it..

...to sound like another poster, you do realise Arsenal have the most shots on target and the highest on target to shot ratio in the EPL....

Doesn't say much for the Arse strikers? midfielder Nasri top scorer this season & fabregas the season before.

Mustn't have said much for United's strikers for a couple of years there when Ronnie was top scoring either then!

Do i need to post the poor return of goals for the Arsenal strikers last two seasons? in 2008 the year Ronaldo scored 42 goals United 2 strikers scored 37 goals between something Arsenal strikers won't do this season.
well you could have said that from the start then. My point is it's not unheard of for a midfielder to outscore the forwards. In fact it's more likely with a team like arse where they pass and move and bring the midfielders into the game more than  a lot of others!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 06, 2011, 10:39:17 PM
Can you imagine if the Ian Wright or Henry of old had played last night or indeed this season?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 06, 2011, 10:41:31 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on January 06, 2011, 10:36:36 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 06, 2011, 10:18:51 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on January 06, 2011, 09:39:27 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 06, 2011, 06:28:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2011, 09:57:35 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 06, 2011, 12:33:53 AM
Do any Arsenal fans scream 'Shoot for f**ks sake' at the TV? I was watching for a while and its very frustrating. They play lovely football, but Jaysus, have a pop.

Ah welcome to our world AZ, we're just conditioned to it..

...to sound like another poster, you do realise Arsenal have the most shots on target and the highest on target to shot ratio in the EPL....

Doesn't say much for the Arse strikers? midfielder Nasri top scorer this season & fabregas the season before.

Mustn't have said much for United's strikers for a couple of years there when Ronnie was top scoring either then!

Do i need to post the poor return of goals for the Arsenal strikers last two seasons? in 2008 the year Ronaldo scored 42 goals United 2 strikers scored 37 goals between something Arsenal strikers won't do this season.
well you could have said that from the start then. My point is it's not unheard of for a midfielder to outscore the forwards. In fact it's more likely with a team like arse where they pass and move and bring the midfielders into the game more than  a lot of others!!

Your point is taken but Ronaldo,Messi goal scoring from midfield is on different planet from the rest.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: supersarsfields on January 06, 2011, 10:50:29 PM
Without a doubt, but I have to say Nasri has looked pretty good this year aswell. Certainly one of the best attacking midfielders in the PL this year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 06, 2011, 10:57:16 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on January 06, 2011, 10:50:29 PM
Without a doubt, but I have to say Nasri has looked pretty good this year aswell. Certainly one of the best attacking midfielders in the PL this year.

Yes Nasri has been excellent
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 06, 2011, 11:06:56 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 06, 2011, 10:57:16 PM
Quote from: supersarsfields on January 06, 2011, 10:50:29 PM
Without a doubt, but I have to say Nasri has looked pretty good this year aswell. Certainly one of the best attacking midfielders in the PL this year.

Yes Nasri has been excellent

I see Barca are sniffing round him as well.

Another Hleb story in the making.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 08, 2011, 08:40:28 AM
Can't see anything but a win for the Goons against dirty Leeds today particularly with all the talk about dirty Leeds not wanting to lose momentum in the Championship with a cup run distraction..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 08, 2011, 10:07:35 AM
Wouldn't rule out a draw, Dinny. Leeds haven't been losing many lately. You'd imagine he'll play a side similar to the Wigan game - Bender, Cham, Arshavin, Denilson, Squillachi, Chesney, Eboue etc. Who partners the Italian in defence though. Can't see Wenger risking Djourou and he said Koscielny needs a break.

Would like to see the new Japanese fellow though might be too early for Ramsey.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 08, 2011, 11:42:37 AM
Maybe a draw but these Leeds play good football and don't really resort to the long ball but just can't see going toe to toe with Arsenal on that front..

Ramsey will hopefully come on from the bench, Arsenal finally look like they've learned how to manage injuries properly but I'm a big fan of Ramsey and along with Song, Fabregas, Nasri and Wilshere all 23 or younger. Some midfield options going forward...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 08, 2011, 12:24:57 PM
 Szczesny;
Eboue, Djourou, Squillaci, Gibbs;
Denilson, Song;
Bendtner, Rosicky, Arshavin;
Chamakh.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 08, 2011, 01:01:35 PM
The drop in class in the Arsenal team is very noticeable. Playing the same way but without the accuracy and speed of a Nasri, VP or Cesc.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2011, 01:03:14 PM
Arsenal could end up with egg on their faces today

Leeds well up for it so far
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 08, 2011, 01:06:00 PM
Subs: Fabregas Vela Walcott Ramsey Fabianski Clichy Miquel.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2011, 01:11:35 PM
Hate that, Ferguson does the same in "easier" games.

Bad tackle there
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on January 08, 2011, 01:20:33 PM
Shades of the Man City game, Arsenal should be a few goals up by now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 08, 2011, 01:29:00 PM
Real lack of understanding between Arshavin, Bendtner, Chamakh and Rosicky. The first two are determined not to pass it to each other.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 08, 2011, 02:00:03 PM
Set up nicely now. Wenger has never lost to a lower league team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 08, 2011, 02:12:00 PM
For the neutral, set up nicely as Arsenal have to chase the game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 08, 2011, 02:17:20 PM
Arse fans really getting at the team, don't like to see that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2011, 02:21:30 PM
 Just shows you how much the big teams hate this competition, Arsen won't lose sleep tonight

The fans have paid their money to watch a team that wouldn't be playing against Chelsea or United, I'd be pissed off if i was watching a second string team
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2011, 02:36:22 PM
Soft penalty really but penalty all the same.

A replay doesn't suit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 08, 2011, 02:43:56 PM
Phew! Walcott and Fabregas terrorised them those last 10 mins.

Don't mind a replay, especially as squad fairly injury free right now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on January 08, 2011, 03:09:24 PM
The little Russian has lost his touch. Not the same player that bagged 4 against Liverpool..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 08, 2011, 03:11:05 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on January 08, 2011, 03:09:24 PM
The little Russian has lost his touch. Not the same player that bagged 4 against Liverpool..

That game seems like more of an aberration from him the more i see of him. I think he would drive you round the bend if you supported the Goons.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 08, 2011, 03:22:46 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on January 08, 2011, 03:09:24 PM
The little Russian has lost his touch. Not the same player that bagged 4 against Liverpool..

Mark Viduka wasn't the same player after his 4 against Liverpool either.

As for the game today like the Wigan match poor team selection resulted in a draw! I'm sure Wenger will pick more first-teamers for the replay & Ipswich in League cup

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: SLIGONIAN on January 08, 2011, 03:23:41 PM
We are on the up we are the up, Super Leeds, MOT

Not be long till this is a Premiership fixture again... cant wait.

The only thing that undone us was Walcotts pace on Parker who is just back from a long term injury and looked sluggish but hes decent player. Proud of Leeds though..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on January 08, 2011, 05:23:50 PM
Surely Bentdner must have the biggest ego v talent imbalance in Europe. A truly shocking player.

Simples seems to want away, just doesn't seem bothered.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: SLIGONIAN on January 08, 2011, 05:38:08 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on January 08, 2011, 05:23:50 PM
Surely Bentdner must have the biggest ego v talent imbalance in Europe. A truly shocking player.

Simples seems to want away, just doesn't seem bothered.

One of the worst professional footballers i ever seen, if he was 5.5ft he would be struggling to make junior soccer teams in ireland, donkey. Its his size thats got him were he is but he has no talent.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 08, 2011, 06:28:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 08, 2011, 02:17:20 PM
Arse fans really getting at the team, don't like to see that.

Agree with that, Arshavin's confidence is a low ebb so good to see Wenger not playing the popular card and leave him on.

As O'Neill said Arsenal have a large squad so replay is no big deal although the quality of the second team is questionable..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 08, 2011, 07:05:08 PM
I see young Theo admitted taking a dive today! I should be slagging the wee faker off, but I thought he was fouled, so fair play to him for coming out and holding the hands up!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on January 08, 2011, 07:16:14 PM
What a ridiculous statement he came out with "I'm not the type of player to do it". Eh but you just did.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 08, 2011, 07:37:29 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on January 08, 2011, 05:38:08 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on January 08, 2011, 05:23:50 PM
Surely Bentdner must have the biggest ego v talent imbalance in Europe. A truly shocking player.

Simples seems to want away, just doesn't seem bothered.

One of the worst professional footballers i ever seen, if he was 5.5ft he would be struggling to make junior soccer teams in ireland, donkey. Its his size thats got him were he is but he has no talent.

He's not that bad. He has scored goals for every team he played for at all levels. Scored a classy effort against City at their ground. He has off days and compounds it by not hiding - he'll always want the ball and try to produce something whereas others will disappear. Last year he had a horrendous game in the league to the point that the crowd and Bendtner were finding it hilarious. Barn door and all that. The next game was a Champions' League group game and Wenger played him from the start. He scored a hat-trick.

His ego is inflated and does think he's a better play than what he is but when he's on the field, things tend to happen. He gets into good positions. Wenger often plays him wide right which doesn't help matters.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 08, 2011, 11:31:01 PM
If I was going home to this every night I'd be pretty cocky too, oh and she's worth close to €500 million

(http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/eb/archive/00366/Modeuge_i_K_benhavn_366372d.jpg)


Can't help but think he'll be a success away from the Arsenal, perhaps with a team that plays more direct..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 09, 2011, 12:03:48 AM
Having been to Denmark she would be only average looking there! though the money would be a major draw for Nicklas
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 09, 2011, 03:00:57 AM
Quote from: ross4life on January 09, 2011, 12:03:48 AM
Having been to Denmark she would be only average looking there! though the money would be a major draw for Nicklas

That wasn't Denmark, that was Tarmonbarry.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2011, 09:48:14 AM
That game is also a good shot in the arm before the Ipswich game. Hate playing a side with a new manager - they usually play out of their skins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 09, 2011, 02:36:08 PM
Arshavins on a slippery slope with the fans.

Hope he can turn it round a bit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2011, 06:11:57 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 08, 2011, 07:05:08 PM
I see young Theo admitted taking a dive today! I should be slagging the wee faker off, but I thought he was fouled, so fair play to him for coming out and holding the hands up!

Yea - sorta weird to hear a player to admit that - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/9351043.stm

It wasn't as if it was an obvious dive too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 09, 2011, 06:18:11 PM
I like Walcott, honest, articulate and intelligent just a pity he has the first touch of a rapist...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 09, 2011, 06:22:47 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 09, 2011, 06:18:11 PM
I like Walcott, honest, articulate and intelligent just a pity he has the first touch of a rapist...

Starting to show a bit of consistency though

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2011, 10:11:17 PM
What effect will that 7-0 hammering today have on Ipswich for Wednesday? Feel uneasy about it now, although the fact that it's two legs is a help. Hard to believe this competition is getting me nervous.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Rouge_Diablo on January 09, 2011, 10:17:10 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 09, 2011, 10:11:17 PM
What effect will that 7-0 hammering today have on Ipswich for Wednesday? Feel uneasy about it now, although the fact that it's two legs is a help. Hard to believe this competition is getting me nervous.

Arse will win the cup, keeps Wenger sweet for a few more years until the ground is paid for (£100 quid tickets now) everyone is happy (except the faithful)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 10, 2011, 10:51:46 PM
http://www.arsenal.com/match-menu/3305232/reserves/aston-villa-res-v-arsenal-res?tab=report (http://www.arsenal.com/match-menu/3305232/reserves/aston-villa-res-v-arsenal-res?tab=report)

WTF happend here!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on January 10, 2011, 11:30:38 PM
What is with Arshivan?

Unbelievably talented player. Technique, control,eye for a pass. Look at the goal he scored against Wigan a few games ago.

When I first saw him against Everton for St Petersburh a few years ago and then in Euro 2008 he looked world class.

So why is he not even first choice for Arsenal? Bad attitude simply or inconsistent?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 11, 2011, 11:07:04 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 10, 2011, 10:51:46 PM
http://www.arsenal.com/match-menu/3305232/reserves/aston-villa-res-v-arsenal-res?tab=report (http://www.arsenal.com/match-menu/3305232/reserves/aston-villa-res-v-arsenal-res?tab=report)

WTF happend here!!

lol with that result why are the AV 1st team staring at relegation.

Best to be taken with a pinch of salt but some hammering all the same.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 12, 2011, 07:28:38 PM
Arsenal: Szczesny, Eboue, Koscielny, Djourou, Gibbs, Walcott, Denilson, Fabregas, Wilshere, Arshavin, Bendtner.
Subs: Shea, Vela, Ramsey, Song, Chamakh, Eastmond, Miquel.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 07:42:22 PM
Will be glad to turn my mind to something else for 2 hours.

Strong Arsenal team. No Van P or Rosicky?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 08:18:05 PM
30 mins gone. Ipswich holding their own. 2 banks of four on the edge of their box. Perfect way to play Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 12, 2011, 08:19:49 PM
any goods links as anyone i try keep buffering or its a link to the pool game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 08:34:49 PM
http://footylive.info/index.html

Really poor performance so far. Wickham of Ipswich the best player on the park. Arsenal one shot at goal and a tame one at that. Really poor. 0-0 at HT.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 12, 2011, 08:37:12 PM
Arsenal are on a hiding to nothing and Ipswich are free rolling. Lost the manager, thumped at the weekend - what is there to lose for them?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 12, 2011, 08:39:53 PM
hope this is not another leeds game as we  need to get it wrapped up before the next leg. Arshavin seems to have lost the plot.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 08:44:11 PM
Quote from: gerry on January 12, 2011, 08:39:53 PM
hope this is not another leeds game as we  need to get it wrapped up before the next leg. Arshavin seems to have lost the plot.

Truly awful again. Will probably score. Arsenal going through a poor spell at the min. 0-0, 1-1 and 0-0 at HT again. Very flat.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 12, 2011, 08:50:51 PM
QuoteHate playing a side with a new manager - they usually play out of their skins.

your right about that, compared to their last game against chelsea
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 08:52:16 PM
Days like this I'm sure Fabregas is looking around him thinking I could be close to home hammering sides in front of 100'000 surrounded by world class players.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 12, 2011, 08:53:49 PM
but would he get starting in that team
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 08:58:03 PM
Arsenal being really fruity in the tackle. Pulling out all over the shop. Verging on a disgraceful performance so far.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 09:03:09 PM
This really is crap. Merson said at HT that Arsenal look like they are thinking of Wembley already. He's right. No one is talking, no passion for a semi-final. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 12, 2011, 09:04:12 PM
SHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT !!!!!!!    FFSSSSSSSAKKKKKE
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 09:06:42 PM
Nearly wishing for an Ipswich goal.

Arsenal playing in first gear thinking it's enough. Eboue and Arshavin playing like cnuts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 09:12:54 PM
Bendtner has just played his worst 65 mins in an Arsenal geansai.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 12, 2011, 09:13:38 PM
good man gibbs take a shot
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 12, 2011, 09:16:37 PM
handball
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 09:17:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 12, 2011, 09:07:07 PM
Wtf? Why did your man not shoot? This is dire.

Must be a percentages thing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 09:21:04 PM
This coulda been Keane's finest moment.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 12, 2011, 09:21:36 PM
1-0 ipswich and well deserved
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 12, 2011, 09:22:29 PM
61% possession and we can't even score ffs
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 12, 2011, 09:22:54 PM
Shades of Derby 1 Man united 0 league cup semi final two years ago
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 09:25:24 PM
Wenger finally draws off Areshaving. Need to be careful not to concede 2. Ipswich not tiring.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 12, 2011, 09:28:05 PM
well taken goal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 09:30:07 PM
Arsenal players still strolling about, probably thinking they'll hammer them at home. Disgraceful attitude today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 09:34:09 PM
Worst thing is, this is nearly a full strength team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 12, 2011, 09:38:39 PM
First off it wasn't a strong Arsenal line-up as suggest here, Wenger paid the price for yet again selecting a weakened team, if the likes of Nasri,RVP had started tonight the 2nd leg would be a formality now.

Really have to question the quality of Arsenal's reserves.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 12, 2011, 09:40:33 PM
radio 5 saying how arsenal fielded a strong team and that they learned from the leeds game.  so much for that.

on a bright note, the last time ispwich won the first leg of their last two semi finals they got beat on the return leg.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 09:41:31 PM
Wise up - Arsenal reserves. Fabregas, Walcott, Arshavin, Kolchielny, Djourou, Denilson, Song, Chamakh etc all all first teamers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 12, 2011, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 09:41:31 PM
Wise up - Arsenal reserves. Fabregas, Walcott, Arshavin, Kolchielny, Djourou, Denilson, Song, Chamakh etc all all first teamers.

I think only 4/5 of tonights team started v Man City (last pl game) & when Arsenal have everyone fit would you consider walcott,Kolchielny, Djourou first XL?

Song,Chamakh only came off the bench why didn't they start?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 09:47:15 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 12, 2011, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 09:41:31 PM
Wise up - Arsenal reserves. Fabregas, Walcott, Arshavin, Kolchielny, Djourou, Denilson, Song, Chamakh etc all all first teamers.

I think only 4/5 of tonights team started v Man City (last pl game) & when Arsenal have everyone fit would you consider walcott,Kolchielny, Djourou first XL?

Yes, all three. Walcott def ahead of Arshavin. Those two centre backs are Arsenal's top two at the min.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 12, 2011, 09:56:36 PM
Well Arsenal will start the 2nd leg with Nasri,RVP,Song plus both fbs will be back & new keeper
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 10:04:38 PM
Nasri and RVP yes. Gibbs is better option than Clichy. Sagna was suspended so Wenger had no choice tonight. Your argument is seriously misinformed if you're trying to pin this on Wenger.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on January 12, 2011, 10:43:12 PM
I would pin it on Wenger, Fabregas stormed about in a bad mood not seeming to care . . . Eboue is ket, Bendtner and Arshavin likewise. Why the ball wasn't thrown to Walcott every time aftre O'Dea got booked I'll never know.

Having looked composed all night Koscielny and Djourou had an absolute nightmare last 15 minutes. Wenger has to take criticism because that team went out with the wrong attitude.

I agree however about the team. Except for Eboue, Denilson and Bendtner that was as close to full strength as Arsenal will get!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 12, 2011, 10:44:37 PM
Poor attitude from the Arsenal players epitomised by Fabregas's performance absolute disgrace imho

Will probably still go through but very annoying to watch..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 12, 2011, 10:46:14 PM
Agree with the attitude sreeenexile, but that's a long term thing. In terms of the team picked tonight, including niggles that was the strongest team in Wenger's League Cup past!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 13, 2011, 02:27:21 AM
Rumours brewing of a BIG story involving an Arsenal player being caught with a few ladies. Apparently he was being blackmailed by 3 Man City players! Anyone here this, or is this one of the silly internet rumours?

Very sketchey and on the surface sounds like a non-story!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 13, 2011, 08:24:45 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 13, 2011, 02:27:21 AM
Rumours brewing of a BIG story involving an Arsenal player being caught with a few ladies. Apparently he was being blackmailed by 3 Man City players! Anyone here this, or is this one of the silly internet rumours?

Very sketchey and on the surface sounds like a non-story!

It is true.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 13, 2011, 08:38:26 AM
3 Swedish blondes in Vegas, sounds like a good story/vid  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 13, 2011, 10:11:25 AM
Arseblog:

Ipswich 1-0 Arsènal: Not good enough, Mr Wenger

Well that wasn't very good, was it?

Before I start let me credit Ipswich for their performance. After a 7-0 thrashing at the weekend they could easily have gone to pieces again last night but when it became obvious, fairly early on, they were facing an Arsenal side at less than half-throttle they not only continued to defend well but they had more of a go at us than Man City did. At the end of 90 minutes it's hard to say they didn't deserve their win.

It was clear from the team selection that Arsene had sent out a team with some fresh legs and enough first team quality to make sure we won this game. A starting XI with Cesc back in midfield, Theo Walcott up front, Djourou and Koscielny at the back (not that he had much choice there), mixed with fringe players and guys like Arshavin and Bendtner was more strong enough to beat a team lying 19th in the Championship.

Yet after a couple of bright early minutes you could see things weren't right. The same malaise as against Leeds, players caught on their heels, passes just out of reach because of that, and little or no craft or attacking threat in the final third. At half-time, despite dominating possession, it was Ipswich who had had more shots on goal, better chances to score (without any of them being clear cut), and who looked the most threatening coming forward. Off the top of my head we had one shot on target in the first half, an effort from Walcott which was easily saved.

The warning signs were there for Arsenal and if we expected better in the second half we really didn't get it. When, after just a minute or so, we're playing long, high diagonal balls across field to that renowned target man Theo Walcott (which go straight out for a throw) you can't help but be worried. Arsenal dominated possession, as you would expect, and while we still struggled to create anything from an attacking point of view we went to pieces defensively.

Denilson's sloppy pass led to an Ipswich free kick, Eboue bottled a 50-50 in the Ipswich half which saw them come forward and threaten, Eboue's control let him down on the halfway line when they cleared from a corner and nearly went clean through on goal. We were shambolic at the back. At the other end we were the worst of ourselves, too many touches, not enough conviction. That commentator cliché about Arsenal trying to walk it into the net annoys me most of the time but it would have been true if they'd rattled it off last night.

Ipswich should have gone ahead a little after the hour. A clearance from the back went over the head of Koscielny and left Priskin clean through. It was there to be finished but he delayed and allowed Djourou to nip in at the last second and put it out from a corner. Being caught out so easily by a hopeful punt up-field is really unacceptable. If it happened in a Sunday league game the defenders would get a bollocking. At this level? Not good enough.

Yet Arsenal being Arsenal should have been 1-0 up just before their goal. A Gibbs cross from the left dropped just over Chamakh's head, hit Cesc on the thigh and went over from about 5 or 6 yards out. And when you see Cesc miss from there you know it's not going to be your night. Almost straight away they scored. Arsenal played a high line, and I'm pretty sure Priskin was offside when the ball was played through to him, but there was no flag, he took it on and finished calmly into the bottom corner to make it 1-0. Even now it's hard to argue they didn't deserve it.

With Chamakh and Song on for Bendtner and Wilshere, Arsene's last throw of the dice was Carlos Vela for Andrei Arshavin. Are there really 10 clubs after him? I'd only believe it if you told me they were nightclubs. Cesc fashioned a chance for Theo which the keeper did well to save but for the biggest danger wasn't that we wouldn't score, it was that we would concede again.
As we pressed to try and find a goal another long ball from the back, and I think it was a kick out from the keeper's hands, saw one of their men all on his own down our right hand side. He seemed confused by how much time and space he had and Wojscez©®, after making a save, was clearly asking where the fcuk his defence was. A very good question indeed. Answers on a postcard etc etc.

So, final whistle 1-0 Ipswich. A team battered by Chelsea at the weekend manage to turn things around to beat Arsenal. And while I give them plenty of credit for their performance they were aided and abetted by a lacklustre, disinterested and complacent Arsenal.

Afterwards Arsene said:

I think we had an off night. You could see from the start, every single pass was a problem. We rely a lot on our sharp, crisp passing and that was always a problem tonight. I would say in every department we were below our usual level. It would be unfair to only put the blame on the defenders tonight because I believe in every single department we were not at our usual level.

Ok, no arguments with that. Passing was a problem, check. Below usual level, check (I suppose, although you wonder what exactly our usual level is). Not only blame defenders, check. Every department, check.

Then he went on to say this:

I felt we got more and more problems as the game went on. We looked in control in the first half but in the second half we looked much more vulnerable defensively, I put that down to fatigue.

Fatigue? Really? Eboue – hardly played recently. Gibbs – just back after an injury lay-off, should be fresh. Arshavin – been on the bench. Bendtner – hardly played this season. Walcott – fit and able. Denilson – hardly played. If you really wanted to make a case for Djourou, Koscielny and perhaps Cesc and Wilshere you could try but it wouldn't sway too many people. They're highly trained professional athletes, not kindergarten kids who need afternoon naps.

And Arsenal played Leeds at 12.45 on Saturday afternoon. Ipswich came off the park at 5pm on Sunday having been battered by Chelsea. Where was their fatigue? That's pathetic excuse making from Arsene. There's no reason this team should have been tired. If there's any reason for the display it comes from him and the way he prepares his team. Yes, he picked a side that had added quality and experience which showed he wanted to win it, but this was a cup semi-final and his team looked about as motivated as a man who is faced with the job of washing the crusty poo off an ancient basset's arse.

Compare and contrast Chelsea performance v Ipswich. For the former we were up for it, determined, energetic and driven to beat a team we knew we had to be at our best to get a result against. Last night we were sloppy, careless and lazy against a team we thought we just had to turn up to beat. The same old problem with this Arsenal team. Arsene said:
I believe we will turn it around but we got a good warning tonight that we have to produce a different performance.

Why did we need a warning? How many times have we been here in the past? How many times do we need to learn that if you give less than 100% you open yourselves up to punishment and how many times does it need to be made crystal f**king clear that you have to produce the same effort in games against so-called smaller opposition as in games against the big boys? The list of these performances is almost endless now and while it's very easy to point fingers at players and their lack of performance on an individual basis this is a team malaise.
Just over 14 days ago we beat Chelsea. That day was a lesson to this team that if you work hard, press the opposition, concentrate and take your chances you will be rewarded. Yet here we are with that lesson well and truly forgotten, once again we've gone into a game against a smaller team thinking we just have to show up to win. And that we're capable of going from one level to another in such a short space of time is entirely down the manager.

That we have players who cannot maintain a level of performance for a little over two weeks, let alone over the course of the season, is one of the reasons why we continue to hear how long it is since we've won a trophy. And these are Arsene's players, this is his team, and ultimately the buck stops with him. Complain all you like about individual performances – and some of them certainly merit a good moan – but at the end of the day he picks them, pays them, trains them, motivates them. I can't remember where I read it but in the immediate aftermath of last night's game someone said this team has a fear of success. It's hard to argue.
That was a cup semi-final, a chance to get closer to a piece of silverware after so long, and it was a monster's abortion of a performance. So disappointing.

However, it is only 'half-time' in the tie and we've got 90 minutes at home to put things right. We've got one foot in the grave instead of one foot in the final but there's still time to make it better. This team needs to find some form though, the inconsistency of performance is our Vermaelen's heel and until we sort that out we're going to make hard work of things.
We travel to West Ham, potential Carling Cup final opponents, on Saturday. More of the same and we'll make Avram Grant look like he knows what he's doing. And I don't think it gets any more damning than that. Sort it out, Arsene.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 13, 2011, 10:34:15 AM
Well what's the big rumour then?

Who's being blackmailed?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 118cmal on January 13, 2011, 12:20:35 PM
Apparently a player met three swedish blondes in a bar in vegas, I think one of them was a waitress.  So him and his two mates bring them back up to the room and someone videos him having sex with one of them on a Blackberry.  Complete non-story.  Fair play to him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 13, 2011, 12:30:27 PM
Quote from: 118cmal on January 13, 2011, 12:20:35 PM
Apparently a player met three swedish blondes in a bar in vegas, I think one of them was a waitress.  So him and his two mates bring them back up to the room and someone videos him having sex with one of them on a Blackberry. Complete non-story.  Fair play to him.

Not quite. If it is true he is being blackmailed then whoever is involved could be eating porridge.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 118cmal on January 13, 2011, 12:33:34 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 13, 2011, 12:30:27 PM
Quote from: 118cmal on January 13, 2011, 12:20:35 PM
Apparently a player met three swedish blondes in a bar in vegas, I think one of them was a waitress.  So him and his two mates bring them back up to the room and someone videos him having sex with one of them on a Blackberry. Complete non-story.  Fair play to him.

Not quite. If it is true he is being blackmailed then whoever is involved could be eating porridge.

Yes sorry, obviously the Blackmailing part of it is serious.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 13, 2011, 10:36:14 PM
Rumours its a Spurs man........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 13, 2011, 10:42:44 PM
Arsenal have to get the ship back on course on Saturday. A draw/defeat away to West Ham is looking a distinct possibility. With Spurs/Utd on Sunday this is a chance to make some ground.

Still think that was a disgraceful performance last night. There was no urgency apart from Wilshere, Gibbs and Walcott. No one shouted or encouraged. Stank of complacency.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 15, 2011, 01:03:56 PM
Bloody hell why is it Arsenal always seem to play teams that have just sacked their manager (Grant's last game*). Bad feeling about this one


* Can't see Martin O'Neill's long ball football going down well at the Academy..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 15, 2011, 01:07:08 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 15, 2011, 01:03:56 PM
Bloody hell why is it Arsenal always seem to play teams that have just sacked their manager (Grant's last game*). Bad feeling about this one


* Can't see Martin O'Neill's long ball football going down well at the Academy..

Funny, I feel better about this one. Wham are bound to be fairly befuddled about the whole shenanigans. With Nasri about anything is possible. Is Scott Parker out? If so, another plus. 0-3.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 15, 2011, 06:01:54 PM
1-0 up after 30 mins. Nice Van P goal. But by God are Arsenal shaky at the back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 15, 2011, 06:10:15 PM
Should be 4-0 up. Van Persie just hit the post again. A lot of fannying about in the West Ham box again with no one willing to shoot. It's a strange formation again. Sorta 4-6-0 so you have 2-3 of them 1-2ing on the edge of the box looking for that killer dink. Where's Ray Parlour when you need him. You just wish someone had the knackers to toe poke it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 15, 2011, 06:13:04 PM
2-0. Walcott from Van Persie pull back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on January 15, 2011, 06:14:43 PM
How the hell does Wayne Bridge earn money for playing football? And 90 bloody grand a week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Rocky Mc Guigan on January 15, 2011, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: 118cmal on January 13, 2011, 12:20:35 PM
Apparently a player met three swedish blondes in a bar in vegas, I think one of them was a waitress.  So him and his two mates bring them back up to the room and someone videos him having sex with one of them on a Blackberry.  Complete non-story.  Fair play to him.
Must be  a player with some balance
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 15, 2011, 06:19:15 PM
West Ham Woeful, should be 0-5 at HT.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 15, 2011, 06:22:26 PM
0-2. West Ham had 2 good chances. Great save from the Arsenal keeper and one bad miss from Cole.

Arsenal playing relatively well but still short on confidence. Nasri more influential than Cesc as he has been all season.

Djourou ropey today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 15, 2011, 06:34:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 15, 2011, 06:22:26 PM

Djourou ropey today.
Just today? every time i seen him play he reminds me of Mikael Silvestre.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 15, 2011, 07:04:11 PM
Considering Djourou's been out for so long he's been ok.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 15, 2011, 07:19:29 PM
Does O'Neill have money on the 0-3 scoreline?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 15, 2011, 07:30:19 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 15, 2011, 01:07:08 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 15, 2011, 01:03:56 PM
Bloody hell why is it Arsenal always seem to play teams that have just sacked their manager (Grant's last game*). Bad feeling about this one


* Can't see Martin O'Neill's long ball football going down well at the Academy..

Funny, I feel better about this one. Wham are bound to be fairly befuddled about the whole shenanigans. With Nasri about anything is possible. Is Scott Parker out? If so, another plus. 0-3.

(http://www.talking-cats.com/images/submissions/userSubmissions/puck_bowDown_120108.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 15, 2011, 07:37:59 PM
If only I was a betting man.

That was the most comfortable second half in a good while. Worked hard though which was good to see. Arshavin might be in the cold from now on.

Leeds at Elland Rd will be a different proposition on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 15, 2011, 11:30:36 PM
MOTD commentator was slagging off John Jensen, now of Blackburn, for coaching them how to shoot.


This wasn't bad for his only goal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5WQ8phrh7A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5WQ8phrh7A)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 15, 2011, 11:57:45 PM
BBC have been slagging Jensen for years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q66sbVUOx7M&feature=related
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 16, 2011, 12:21:37 AM
Quote from: ross4life on January 15, 2011, 11:57:45 PM
BBC have been slagging Jensen for years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q66sbVUOx7M&feature=related

Jensen has what those tools will never have.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 12:41:01 AM
Eye-opening interview with Denilson, especially regarding Fabregas.  - http://vimeo.com/18913253
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on January 19, 2011, 10:36:42 AM
I'm off to the Emirates on Saturday - though I'd prefer to be going to Elland Road tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 10:38:03 AM
Bring a packed lunch. Hotdogs dearer that Croke.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on January 19, 2011, 01:52:54 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 10:38:03 AM
Bring a packed lunch. Hotdogs dearer that Croke.

Thanks Shane, am not anticipating seeing many eating hang sangwiches out of the boots of cars around Islington.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 08:01:28 PM
Only 6 changes this time!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 08:04:48 PM
Wish Bendtner wouldn't chew chewing gum with his gob open. Comes across even cockier.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 08:06:24 PM
Arshavin watch: One possession - lost dribble.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 08:07:45 PM
Suppose that was an assist from Arshavin.

Great finish from POTY Nasri.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on January 19, 2011, 08:07:53 PM
Anyone else's Setanta commentary way ahead of the play?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 08:10:36 PM
ITV well synced.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on January 19, 2011, 08:13:18 PM
What a save...Narsi is head and shoulders above anyone in the premiership at the moment
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 08:14:49 PM
From Optastats - Andrey Arshavin has been involved in more PL goals than any other Arsenal player (4 goals, 9 assists).

More effective than imagined.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 08:23:08 PM
Arsenal working their butts off. Even the Russian.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 19, 2011, 08:24:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 08:14:49 PM
From Optastats - Andrey Arshavin has been involved in more PL goals than any other Arsenal player (4 goals, 9 assists).

More effective than imagined.

R4L already knew that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 08:35:13 PM
Where's Bendtner? Scratching his hole no doubt. Chewing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 08:39:00 PM
2 great goals from both sides.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on January 19, 2011, 08:39:39 PM
 :o :o great goals
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on January 19, 2011, 08:39:48 PM
What a strike!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on January 19, 2011, 08:45:53 PM
Weaker!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 08:47:32 PM
Arshavin seemed to be fouled before their goal. No replays though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 19, 2011, 09:01:33 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 19, 2011, 08:24:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 08:14:49 PM
From Optastats - Andrey Arshavin has been involved in more PL goals than any other Arsenal player (4 goals, 9 assists).

More effective than imagined.

R4L already knew that.

Anyone that plays FPL know's that.

Didn't see the 1st half any good? sounds like i missed some good goals.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 19, 2011, 09:04:28 PM
here we go again, need a earliy goal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 19, 2011, 09:19:08 PM
Arshavin, how many chances does he need
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 19, 2011, 09:39:54 PM
nice goal by rvp
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 09:45:32 PM
Can't fault the workrate today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 19, 2011, 09:59:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 09:45:32 PM
Can't fault the workrate today.

What about the workrate tonight?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 10:10:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 19, 2011, 09:59:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 19, 2011, 09:45:32 PM
Can't fault the workrate today.

What about the workrate tonight?

Leeds is 5 hours behind.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 19, 2011, 11:03:16 PM
The Goons looked fresh, nice to see Sagna smile.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 21, 2011, 10:37:08 PM
Back to porridge for the quadruplers. Wigan away was embarrassing a while ago. No slip ups.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 22, 2011, 04:58:56 PM
3-0, RVP hat trick.

Great midfield performance today, especially Wilshere who was outstanding. Song, Fabregas, Walcott and VP also had fine games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 22, 2011, 06:01:56 PM
Very comfortable for an Arsenal game, RVP looking very sharp so expect him to break his little toe toenail during the week and be out for 63 days. Walcott starting to deliver consistency but a run of games helps, the long lay-offs for Fabregas, Walcott and RVP coupled with no World Cup for Nasri should leave Arsenal pretty strong for their attempt at the quadruple..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on January 22, 2011, 11:20:16 PM
Is it possble Little Lord RVP might throw off his under-achiever-of-a-career mantle?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 24, 2011, 12:53:16 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1349674/Arsenal-boss-Arsene-Wenger-wins-race-sign-Alex-Oxlade-Chamberlain.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1349674/Arsenal-boss-Arsene-Wenger-wins-race-sign-Alex-Oxlade-Chamberlain.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on January 24, 2011, 10:48:04 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 22, 2011, 04:58:56 PM
3-0, RVP hat trick.

Great midfield performance today, especially Wilshere who was outstanding. Song, Fabregas, Walcott and VP also had fine games.

Having been there, I thought Song was easily man of the match, essentially for his stamina - he was at the heart of absolutely everything.  Wilshere was brilliant too, and Fabregas was himself - Caldwell kicked him everytime he got the ball in the first half, so he was a little subdued, but his vision is brilliant (really reminded me of Johnny Giles in his pomp, bossy little bollix).  I have to disagree about Walcott; seeing it later on MOTD, it was edited to look like he had a major influence on proceedings, but it certainly didn't happen like that - he was quite poor, and he really has no end-product (and he knows it).  Arshavin looks like he wants to be somewhere else too.

Fantastic stadium, very comfortable and great views for everyone, including kids behind big, stupid gooners.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 24, 2011, 11:00:00 AM
QuoteI have to disagree about Walcott; seeing it later on MOTD, it was edited to look like he had a major influence on proceedings, but it certainly didn't happen like that - he was quite poor, and he really has no end-product (and he knows it).

He still had two assists and created another 4 chances although he should have taken one those himself what more end product those he need? He has improved as the season progressed, I like what he brings, teams have to defend deep because of his pace which creates room in midfield and his work-rate in tracking back is very high as well. Walcott is 21 has played 22 games this year and has 16 positive contributions (10 goals and 6 assists) good stats in any mans language. He's not as confident as should be but he's getting there and I think he will only get better.


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on January 24, 2011, 11:12:01 AM
I dunno Dinny; I'll grant you he's young and he's quick, but experienced defenders don't appear to be afraid of him.  He gets a lot of chances because of quick ball to him from Sagna and from that fantastic midfield trio.  For me, when a lad is one on one with the keeper and is looking to pass (to a covered player), I'd be worried (very worried).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 24, 2011, 11:20:39 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on January 24, 2011, 11:12:01 AM
For me, when a lad is one on one with the keeper and is looking to pass (to a covered player), I'd be worried (very worried).

I think that is purely confidence and clearly the wrong decision, was it Hansen who said Walcott struggles when he has too much time to think, he might have a point but not many wingers at 21 put fear into the opposition. I think he's going to move more central anyhow as his game develops and we got a glimpse of that when went up the middle and set up RVP's hat trick goal.  A frustrating player yes but an improving player in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 24, 2011, 11:32:15 AM
Isn't the hope that Walcott will become a central striker playing up the middle rather than as winger?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 24, 2011, 12:01:28 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 24, 2011, 11:32:15 AM
Isn't the hope that Walcott will become a central striker playing up the middle rather than as winger?

The fans just want a new Henry and the hope is that Walcott might be that player...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on January 24, 2011, 12:15:17 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 24, 2011, 12:01:28 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on January 24, 2011, 11:32:15 AM
Isn't the hope that Walcott will become a central striker playing up the middle rather than as winger?

The fans just want a new Henry and the hope is that Walcott might be that player...

Well, he's no striker. 

Should also have named Clichy as one of the best players on the field.  Would have been interesting to see that central defensive partnership put under some pressure - they looked comfortable though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 24, 2011, 01:38:55 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 24, 2011, 12:53:16 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1349674/Arsenal-boss-Arsene-Wenger-wins-race-sign-Alex-Oxlade-Chamberlain.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1349674/Arsenal-boss-Arsene-Wenger-wins-race-sign-Alex-Oxlade-Chamberlain.html)


The young lad seems a good prospect but would this money not be worth investing in a new centre half??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2011, 01:57:28 PM
Billy, we're all aware of Walcott's limitations but in terms of his influence on goal chances, he seems to be thereabouts. I think Cesc reads his game brilliantly now and can predict where Theo's going to put it even if Walcott's not!

He's never going to be a Pires, Merson or Overmars (or even Glen Helder) but he has that unpredictability about him which worries defenders - remember Barca in the first leg last year. Even in the second leg he set up Bendtner's goal (badly). It's all about his headless pace.

In terms of his finishing, he has improved in that regard and has scored quite a few one-on-ones this season. That pass to Cesc could've been executed by any number of Arsenal players as they seem to do that.

This Ipswich game tomorrow is massive. Win that, turn over Huddersfield on Sat (two games they should in reality be strolling but prob won't) and the season looks vibrant again all of a sudden. I'll be gutted if they don't knock Ipswich out. Arsenal will be the butt of every joke going and they'll deserve it.

What did you think of the centre backs in general? What was the reaction to Arshavin?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 24, 2011, 02:08:21 PM
It's 2016 on my FM and finally after years of trying I have sold Bendtner, to Everton. The useless fecker has 2 CL medals and 4 PL though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 24, 2011, 02:14:27 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 24, 2011, 02:08:21 PM
It's 2016 on my FM and finally after years of trying I have sold Bendtner, to Everton. The useless fecker has 2 CL medals and 4 PL though.

Who's your keeper and 2 centre halfs??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 24, 2011, 02:20:55 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on January 24, 2011, 02:14:27 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 24, 2011, 02:08:21 PM
It's 2016 on my FM and finally after years of trying I have sold Bendtner, to Everton. The useless fecker has 2 CL medals and 4 PL though.

Who's your keeper and 2 centre halfs??

Bauer and Simaos are my two keepers and the third is a guy I got from Derry City for €30,000.

Sakho and Tony Heuston are my starting CHs but I have a load of them.

I put anyone who is over 25 years of age up for sale every year and the board goes mad. I am trying to get my transfer dealings into minus by buying good young players cheap.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 24, 2011, 03:05:01 PM
Imagine if they could get Given from Man City.  The search for Centre Halves would be so pressing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on January 24, 2011, 03:44:45 PM
QuoteIt's all about his headless pace.

That sums it up for me - he's not an Arsenal player.  While football is all about pace; pace doesn't always accompany football.  Arsenal are a team of impressive footballers - Walcott looks like the odd-man-out.

QuoteThat pass to Cesc could've been executed by any number of Arsenal players as they seem to do that.

I thought it was Nasri, who had a solid, if unspectacular, game.

QuoteWhat did you think of the centre backs in general?

As I say, they looked composed and comfortable - apparently, Djouru reckons he's the best midfielder in the squad and doesn't want to play there long-term.  Kosnielski (or whatever they call him) looks solid, if unspectacular - I guess what you're looking for from a centre-half.  Because of the circumstances, they didn't even leave their own halves for corners - they probably didn't have more than 20 touches each for the 90 mins.  Hard to call on the evidence of that game.

QuoteWhat was the reaction to Arshavin?

Em, encouragement (like for someone making their debut), and pity.  He could be on his way; he looks like he's gone already in spirit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 25, 2011, 07:34:19 PM
Arsenal: Szczesny, Sagna, Djourou, Koscielny, Clichy, Denilson, Wilshere, Fabregas, Bendtner, Arshavin, van Persie.


Subs: Shea, Nasri, Walcott, Song, Eboue, Gibbs, Chamakh.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 25, 2011, 07:42:27 PM
Away goals only count after extra time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 25, 2011, 08:01:51 PM
the clash of heads looked sore
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 25, 2011, 08:06:36 PM
Bit of fear in Arsenal's play tonight. A bit nervy. Ipswich v well organised. Need to settle.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 25, 2011, 08:46:25 PM
Need Theo on for pace.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 25, 2011, 08:51:54 PM
tractor boys doing well, they only need to hang on for another 45 minutes
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on January 25, 2011, 08:52:05 PM
Arsenal need Chamakh on I think, RVP coming too deep for possession and the midfield area is too crowded.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 25, 2011, 08:59:42 PM
only 3 shots on target ffs
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: supersarsfields on January 25, 2011, 09:05:55 PM
Arshavin has just spent the whole game staring at his boots. Time to get him of!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 25, 2011, 09:09:21 PM
G'wan ya big fruit!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 25, 2011, 09:49:50 PM
a day on the beer with my son beckons, it will be pints of stout and bottles of coke all round
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 25, 2011, 10:18:03 PM
Right Arsenal!

Time to go on this unbelieveable run we've all been dreaming about!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 25, 2011, 10:26:35 PM
Can't help but be deflated after watching the real time "as it stands" premier league table and watching untieds points total go from 48, to 49, and then 51 in the second half.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 25, 2011, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 25, 2011, 10:26:35 PM
Can't help but be deflated after watching the real time "as it stands" premier league table and watching untieds points total go from 48, to 49, and then 51 in the second half.

The league will take care of itself. It's only January and the situation is the same. Arsenal will always have to beat Utd at the Emirates. I'm confident Utd will drop more than 2 points as well as that. However, Arsenal would need to win every game themselves and I cannot see that happening but tonight was always going to be about Utd winning that game in hand. The key is not to allow Utd build up more than the current gap. If Arsenal are sitting 5 points behind at the start of March I'd be relatively pleased.

As for the Carling Cup, thank feck for that. Feb 27th is a day to look forward to. But what about Arshavin eh? Assists coming out of his ears but his general play is pathetic right now. Oddly, Arsenal have conceded very few this year; in fact none in the league atall.

Onwards to the quadruple.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 25, 2011, 11:04:06 PM
Spot on O'Neill squeaky bum isn't till mid March onwards

Hopefully it will be Birmingham in the final, big pitch won't suit their park a bus tactics...


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 25, 2011, 11:42:01 PM
Thought it was going to be a perfect night with us primed to win at half time and Utd down by 2 .

Well, I was half right !!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 25, 2011, 11:46:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 25, 2011, 10:52:34 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 25, 2011, 10:26:35 PM
Can't help but be deflated after watching the real time "as it stands" premier league table and watching untieds points total go from 48, to 49, and then 51 in the second half.

The league will take care of itself. It's only January and the situation is the same. Arsenal will always have to beat Utd at the Emirates. I'm confident Utd will drop more than 2 points as well as that. However, Arsenal would need to win every game themselves and I cannot see that happening but tonight was always going to be about Utd winning that game in hand. The key is not to allow Utd build up more than the current gap. If Arsenal are sitting 5 points behind at the start of March I'd be relatively pleased.

As for the Carling Cup, thank feck for that. Feb 27th is a day to look forward to. But what about Arshavin eh? Assists coming out of his ears but his general play is pathetic right now. Oddly, Arsenal have conceded very few this year; in fact none in the league atall.

Onwards to the quadruple.

If United can't lose a game 2-0 down with 30 to go - it certainly makes our plight all the more daunting.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 25, 2011, 11:57:01 PM
I think the Utd unbeaten thing is bugging the feck outta Arsenal fans.

Surely they won't. It's the one thing we have.

Surely not.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 26, 2011, 09:55:08 AM
They won't
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 30, 2011, 12:37:36 PM
Nasri off with hamstring

Judst our luck !!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 30, 2011, 01:27:38 PM
still need a keeper
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 30, 2011, 01:38:27 PM
How many times have any of those new centre halves got booked or sent off?

Cat!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 30, 2011, 01:50:57 PM
strange penalty from cesc could have went wrong big time. just fecking hit it
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 30, 2011, 02:01:15 PM
Close shave but the Nasri injury the big news.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 30, 2011, 04:14:59 PM
Next round

away to orient
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 08:55:47 AM
By the sounds coming from Wenger its unlikely that there will be any new faces @ the Emirates this transfer window.

Thought a new defender would have been brought in.

Hope he doesnt regret it around March time............
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 02:00:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 30, 2011, 02:01:15 PM
Close shave but the Nasri injury the big news.

Just when Barca are approaching as well!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 31, 2011, 07:52:08 PM
Very quiet here today.


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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 08:21:56 PM
Someone please buy Bendtner.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 31, 2011, 08:22:58 PM
Why? Lets hold on to him a bit yet. His part in the title race isnt over.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 31, 2011, 08:24:02 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 31, 2011, 08:22:58 PM
Why? Lets hold on to him a bit yet. His part in the title race isnt over.

Sell, sell, sell.

He is complete Senderos. He is so bad he is almost Konch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 31, 2011, 08:25:12 PM
He is nt a complete Senderos! Sell in the summer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 08:25:23 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 08:21:56 PM
Someone please buy Bendtner.

Only a bit of a joke.

I reckon he still has a part to play- this season anyway.

If only he was half as good as he thought he was.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 31, 2011, 08:34:23 PM
From twitter:

Torres = £50m
Carroll = £35m
Szczesny-Clichy-Djourou-Vermaelen-Sagna -Nasri -Walcott -Fabregas -Song -Wilshere - RVP = £44m
Bendtner = Priceless
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 08:50:35 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 31, 2011, 08:34:23 PM
From twitter:

Torres = £50m
Carroll = £35m
Szczesny-Clichy-Djourou-Vermaelen-Sagna -Nasri -Walcott -Fabregas -Song -Wilshere - RVP = £44mBendtner = Priceless

Is that £44million altogether?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 31, 2011, 08:56:25 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 08:50:35 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 31, 2011, 08:34:23 PM
From twitter:

Torres = £50m
Carroll = £35m
Szczesny-Clichy-Djourou-Vermaelen-Sagna -Nasri -Walcott -Fabregas -Song -Wilshere - RVP = £44mBendtner = Priceless

Is that £44million altogether?

Apparently.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 09:00:14 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 31, 2011, 08:56:25 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 08:50:35 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 31, 2011, 08:34:23 PM
From twitter:

Torres = £50m
Carroll = £35m
Szczesny-Clichy-Djourou-Vermaelen-Sagna -Nasri -Walcott -Fabregas -Song -Wilshere - RVP = £44mBendtner = Priceless


Is that £44million altogether?

Apparently.

Thats very cheap. A real bargain.

City should try to buy them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2011, 09:10:44 PM
Szczesny - free
Clichy - free
Djourou - free
Vermaelen - €10m
Sagna - €9m
Nasri - €15m
Walcott €11m
Wilshere - Free
Fabregas - Free
Song - €1.2m
RVP - €3m

Yea just under €50 euro - amazing really, less than the cost of one Torres.

When you see black and white figures like that it shows what an amazing job Wenger has done
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 31, 2011, 09:12:49 PM
The prices of Song and RVP really stand out there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 09:15:16 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2011, 09:10:44 PM
Szczesny - free
Clichy - free
Djourou - free
Vermaelen - €10m
Sagna - €9m
Nasri - €15m
Walcott €11m
Wilshere - Free
Fabregas - Free
Song - €1.2m
RVP - €3m

Yea just under €50 euro - amazing really, less than the cost of one Torres.

When you see black and white figures like that it shows what an amazing job Wenger has done

Excellent work from Wenger but the previous post suggests that this is the current value of this group of players collectively.

And yes before anyone gets on to me i know its just a joke.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on January 31, 2011, 09:16:20 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 31, 2011, 09:12:49 PM
The prices of Song and RVP really stand out there.

Unreal value for money!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on January 31, 2011, 09:35:18 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2011, 09:10:44 PM
Szczesny - free
Clichy - free
Djourou - free
Vermaelen - €10m
Sagna - €9m
Nasri - €15m
Walcott €11m
Wilshere - Free
Fabregas - Free
Song - €1.2m
RVP - €3m

Yea just under €50 euro - amazing really, less than the cost of one Torres.

When you see black and white figures like that it shows what an amazing job Wenger has done

No doubting Wengers scouting abilities but it always amuses me how Arsenal fans wear his refusal to spend money as a badge of honour, if the stubborn p***k spent a few quid maybe you would win something more often.. Pretty sure too I could cobble together a fairly competitive United team too was a similiar amount of money (as I'm sure others could do for their own clubs)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2011, 09:48:22 PM
QuotePretty sure too I could cobble together a fairly competitive United team too was a similiar amount of money

You've missed the point, that is the Arsenal's 1st choice XI not a fairly competitive side or in Man U terms less than a Berbatov and Anderson combined or a Ferdinand and Bebe combined or a Rooney and Valencia combined or a Carrick, Nani and Hargreaves combined.

Oh and the average age of that Arsenal side is about 23.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on January 31, 2011, 10:26:30 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2011, 09:48:22 PM
QuotePretty sure too I could cobble together a fairly competitive United team too was a similiar amount of money

You've missed the point, that is the Arsenal's 1st choice XI not a fairly competitive side or in Man U terms less than a Berbatov and Anderson combined or a Ferdinand and Bebe combined or a Rooney and Valencia combined or a Carrick, Nani and Hargreaves combined.

Oh and the average age of that Arsenal side is about 23.

You have missed the point, Arsenal are a big club, 60,000 every week, dearest seats in premier league, money in the bank, hey you even got your own rich yank on the board. If the manager splashed the cash an odd time to supplement the obvious talent at his disposal they'd undoubtable be serious contenders for the league/cl but most years they come up short and the same stuff gets trotted out - "Arsenal play the best football" "outr team only cost four and sixpence".

United are a big club they (used to)  fork out money when required, its what big teams do. Barcelona for all the homegrown talent they have they still forked out for Ibra, Villa and Mascherano in last couple of years.

By the way Koscielni, Arshavin and Denilson could be switched into that team pretty easily and raise the cost by €30 mill
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 31, 2011, 10:32:59 PM
200 mill in jan is crazy money, still 1hr 1/2 to go

sky sport news link (http://veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4d45330a57f86)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 31, 2011, 10:34:32 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2011, 09:10:44 PM
Szczesny - free
Clichy - free
Djourou - free
Vermaelen - €10m
Sagna - €9m
Nasri - €15m
Walcott €11m
Wilshere - Free
Fabregas - Free
Song - €1.2m
RVP - €3m

Yea just under €50 euro - amazing really, less than the cost of one Torres.

When you see black and white figures like that it shows what an amazing job Wenger has done

Would Arsenal have paid any sort of fee or compensation to Legia Warszawa, Cannes and barca for Szczesny, clichey and fabregas?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 31, 2011, 10:38:02 PM
Only half an hour Gerry - transfer window closes at 11pm GMT.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2011, 10:38:37 PM
 Arsenal do have 60K every week, in a stadium not yet paid for

They have controllable debts and refuse to risk their future for short term success, most intelligent Arsenal fans understand that.

QuoteBy the way Koscielni, Arshavin and Denilson could be switched into that team pretty easily and raise the cost by €30 mill

So less than 1 Ferdinand, interesting.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 31, 2011, 10:43:48 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 31, 2011, 10:38:02 PM
Only half an hour Gerry - transfer window closes at 11pm GMT.

is it not english to 11pm and midnight for europe players
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 31, 2011, 10:46:39 PM
I dunno the specifics of it to be honest. I just figured English transfer window meant it closed. Isnt midnight in continental europe 11pm in the UK anyway?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on January 31, 2011, 10:50:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2011, 10:38:37 PM
Arsenal do have 60K every week, in a stadium not yet paid for

They have controllable debts and refuse to risk their future for short term success, most intelligent Arsenal fans understand that.

QuoteBy the way Koscielni, Arshavin and Denilson could be switched into that team pretty easily and raise the cost by €30 mill

So less than 1 Ferdinand, interesting.

Yeah one Ferdinand or one Torres or maybe both in a three year spell, add a decent goalie and bobs your uncle you would win more and still be able to comfortably service the relatively small (by current standards) debt thats the whole point I'm making.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 31, 2011, 10:51:33 PM
your probably right, only half listening to it as i trying to do my GL team
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 31, 2011, 10:54:45 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 31, 2011, 10:26:30 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2011, 09:48:22 PM
QuotePretty sure too I could cobble together a fairly competitive United team too was a similiar amount of money

You've missed the point, that is the Arsenal's 1st choice XI not a fairly competitive side or in Man U terms less than a Berbatov and Anderson combined or a Ferdinand and Bebe combined or a Rooney and Valencia combined or a Carrick, Nani and Hargreaves combined.

Oh and the average age of that Arsenal side is about 23.

You have missed the point, Arsenal are a big club, 60,000 every week, dearest seats in premier league, money in the bank, hey you even got your own rich yank on the board. If the manager splashed the cash an odd time to supplement the obvious talent at his disposal they'd undoubtable be serious contenders for the league/cl but most years they come up short and the same stuff gets trotted out - "Arsenal play the best football" "outr team only cost four and sixpence".

United are a big club they (used to)  fork out money when required, its what big teams do. Barcelona for all the homegrown talent they have they still forked out for Ibra, Villa and Mascherano in last couple of years.

By the way Koscielni, Arshavin and Denilson could be switched into that team pretty easily and raise the cost by €30 mill

And how are the finances of those clubs?

The most fascinating thing about the frenzy in the transfer market is that football has learned absolutely nothing from the world financial crisis.

Arsenal have behaved sensibly and don't rely on the whims of wealthy (paper or political wealth in some cases) owners (yet!).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 31, 2011, 11:01:22 PM
There you go, a Japanese schoolboy signed and immediately loaned to Feyenoord. Probably cost dinner for two at a sushi bar.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/ryo-miyaichi-completes-move-to-arsenal (http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/ryo-miyaichi-completes-move-to-arsenal)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2011, 11:36:26 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 31, 2011, 10:50:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2011, 10:38:37 PM
Arsenal do have 60K every week, in a stadium not yet paid for

They have controllable debts and refuse to risk their future for short term success, most intelligent Arsenal fans understand that.

QuoteBy the way Koscielni, Arshavin and Denilson could be switched into that team pretty easily and raise the cost by €30 mill

So less than 1 Ferdinand, interesting.

Yeah one Ferdinand or one Torres or maybe both in a three year spell, add a decent goalie and bobs your uncle you would win more and still be able to comfortably service the relatively small (by current standards) debt thats the whole point I'm making.

It's just not the Arsenal/Wenger way. I know it's hard for other sides to fathom, especially those who win things like Chelsea or Utd, but Arsenal fans take immense pride that the club go about their finances the proper way. Today Chelsea reported another 70m loss for the previous year, yet go out and spend that again today. That's the way they want to run their ship and it'll probably win them trophies. But there's just something cheap in that.

Look at the current Arsenal squad - how many were bought from Premier League rivals? Fergie and Chelsea raid their direct competitors (Rooney, Berba, Ferdinand, Valencia, Van Der, Carrick, Cole, Anelka, Lampard etc etc). Wenger doesn't do that as he takes no pride in buying ready made players from their own league. Again, it has brought them trophies but personally I take pride in being an Arsenal supporter as they're unique from the rest. And they play football.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on February 01, 2011, 12:37:44 AM
Fair enough O'Neill but I do havea big gripe with a lot of Arsenal fans about "The Wenger Way". As a Blackburn fan and having Big Sam for a while I got the typical "oh are you not annoyed at the way he plays football blah blah blah" after Sambagoes and makes a nuisance of himself and bustles and kicks the Arsenal defenders. The point I like to make is that all of the Arsenal fans who espouse "The Wenger Way" did not become Arsenal supporters during Wengers reign. Rather when George "Boring Boring Arsenal" Graham was in charge. . . in other words get off yer feckin high horse lads!!!

Having said that I have a lot of respect for what Arsenal have become but don't be giving out lectures about other teams style of play when that is what Arsenal were built on . . . and also win a few trophies before getting holier than thou with everyone else!!!

Rant Over!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 01, 2011, 12:47:31 AM
Quote from: screenexile on February 01, 2011, 12:37:44 AM
Fair enough O'Neill but I do havea big gripe with a lot of Arsenal fans about "The Wenger Way". As a Blackburn fan and having Big Sam for a while I got the typical "oh are you not annoyed at the way he plays football blah blah blah" after Sambagoes and makes a nuisance of himself and bustles and kicks the Arsenal defenders. The point I like to make is that all of the Arsenal fans who espouse "The Wenger Way" did not become Arsenal supporters during Wengers reign. Rather when George "Boring Boring Arsenal" Graham was in charge. . . in other words get off yer feckin high horse lads!!!

Having said that I have a lot of respect for what Arsenal have become but don't be giving out lectures about other teams style of play when that is what Arsenal were built on . . . and also win a few trophies before getting holier than thou with everyone else!!!

Rant Over!!

But Wenger has been there and done that. He has won 2 doubles, gone another season unbeaten, reached the final of the Champions League and Uefa Cup, won countless FA Cups and played scintillating football. He has dismantled the Invincibles and in the last 5 years has attempted to recreate some form of Dutch total football squad but it hasn't quite worked out as you cannot compete with the millions others spend.

I understand what you're saying about the Big Sam/Arsenal fans gripe and I'm also embarrassed by the whinging. Adams, Bould, Winterburn, Dixon and Keown were no total-footballers!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: SLIGONIAN on February 01, 2011, 01:09:37 AM
With bolton buying wheater and arsenal short on CB with vermaelen injured why did ye not sign Gary cahill? Think thats a mistake tbh.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2011, 09:24:47 AM
Quote from: screenexile on February 01, 2011, 12:37:44 AM
Fair enough O'Neill but I do havea big gripe with a lot of Arsenal fans about "The Wenger Way". As a Blackburn fan and having Big Sam for a while I got the typical "oh are you not annoyed at the way he plays football blah blah blah" after Sambagoes and makes a nuisance of himself and bustles and kicks the Arsenal defenders. The point I like to make is that all of the Arsenal fans who espouse "The Wenger Way" did not become Arsenal supporters during Wengers reign. Rather when George "Boring Boring Arsenal" Graham was in charge. . . in other words get off yer feckin high horse lads!!!

Having said that I have a lot of respect for what Arsenal have become but don't be giving out lectures about other teams style of play when that is what Arsenal were built on . . . and also win a few trophies before getting holier than thou with everyone else!!!

Rant Over!!

In fairness Screenexile The Arsenal have always run their club in a very old fashion proper way and when Wenger arrived he bought into that culture, Arsenal were always financially prudent but he brought a way playing football that was more pass and move than physical and direct, I suppose some of the Johnny come latelys would espouse this wheneve lack of trophies are mentioned but Arsenal over the last 100 years have always been there or thereabouts and have generally picked up one or two trophies per decade. The football at Arsenal played always depended on the managers philosophy (to me only West Ham and Man United have true cultures of playing pas and move), something that is still important to West Ham fans whereas Man United fans just care about trophies these days and seem oblivious to the more direct football they are playing (getting results but sh*t to watch).

Would love to see Bould in the centre of the Arsenal defence now and trust me he wasn't what you called as tidy footballer...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2011, 09:35:15 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on February 01, 2011, 01:09:37 AM
With bolton buying wheater and arsenal short on CB with vermaelen injured why did ye not sign Gary cahill? Think thats a mistake tbh.

Would Cahill make a difference, he currently plays in a defence that has conceded more goals than Arsenal's, he's English so inflated transfer price. All conjecture but imho certainly not a mistake..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on February 01, 2011, 10:28:39 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 31, 2011, 11:36:26 PM
Look at the current Arsenal squad - how many were bought from Premier League rivals? Fergie and Chelsea raid their direct competitors (Rooney, Berba, Ferdinand, Valencia, Van Der, Carrick, Cole, Anelka, Lampard etc etc). Wenger doesn't do that as he takes no pride in buying ready made players from their own league. Again, it has brought them trophies but personally I take pride in being an Arsenal supporter as they're unique from the rest. And they play football.

Wenger doesn't buy from direct competitors because he cannot compete financially. that's no disgrace but its certainly not dictated by some higher moral compass.

Has this approach brought them trophies? AW's trophy winning years were built on a back 5 that he inherited and internationals that he bought like petit, viera, overmars, henry, etc (even though they all improved at arsenal).

Has the era of harvesting europe's best kids in a bid to nurture them produced trophies? not so far.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 10:30:02 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2011, 09:24:47 AM
Quote from: screenexile on February 01, 2011, 12:37:44 AM
Fair enough O'Neill but I do havea big gripe with a lot of Arsenal fans about "The Wenger Way". As a Blackburn fan and having Big Sam for a while I got the typical "oh are you not annoyed at the way he plays football blah blah blah" after Sambagoes and makes a nuisance of himself and bustles and kicks the Arsenal defenders. The point I like to make is that all of the Arsenal fans who espouse "The Wenger Way" did not become Arsenal supporters during Wengers reign. Rather when George "Boring Boring Arsenal" Graham was in charge. . . in other words get off yer feckin high horse lads!!!

Having said that I have a lot of respect for what Arsenal have become but don't be giving out lectures about other teams style of play when that is what Arsenal were built on . . . and also win a few trophies before getting holier than thou with everyone else!!!

Rant Over!!

In fairness Screenexile The Arsenal have always run their club in a very old fashion proper way and when Wenger arrived he bought into that culture, Arsenal were always financially prudent but he brought a way playing football that was more pass and move than physical and direct, I suppose some of the Johnny come latelys would espouse this wheneve lack of trophies are mentioned but Arsenal over the last 100 years have always been there or thereabouts and have generally picked up one or two trophies per decade. The football at Arsenal played always depended on the managers philosophy (to me only West Ham and Man United have true cultures of playing pas and move), something that is still important to West Ham fans whereas Man United fans just care about trophies these days and seem oblivious to the more direct football they are playing (getting results but sh*t to watch).

Would love to see Bould in the centre of the Arsenal defence now and trust me he wasn't what you called as tidy footballer...

So you prefer this tippy tappy poor man barca stuff now over the George "Boring Boring Arsenal" Graham stuff that won league titles?



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 01, 2011, 10:32:33 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 01, 2011, 10:28:39 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 31, 2011, 11:36:26 PM
Look at the current Arsenal squad - how many were bought from Premier League rivals? Fergie and Chelsea raid their direct competitors (Rooney, Berba, Ferdinand, Valencia, Van Der, Carrick, Cole, Anelka, Lampard etc etc). Wenger doesn't do that as he takes no pride in buying ready made players from their own league. Again, it has brought them trophies but personally I take pride in being an Arsenal supporter as they're unique from the rest. And they play football.

Wenger doesn't buy from direct competitors because he cannot compete financially. that's no disgrace but its certainly not dictated by some higher moral compass.

Has this approach brought them trophies? AW's trophy winning years were built on a back 5 that he inherited and internationals that he bought like petit, viera, overmars, henry, etc (even though they all improved at arsenal).

Has the era of harvesting europe's best kids in a bid to nurture them produced trophies? not so far.

Lauren, Keown, Toure and Cole were the back four that started the Invincibles season and Sol Campbell was also a key member.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 01, 2011, 10:34:30 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 10:30:02 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2011, 09:24:47 AM
Quote from: screenexile on February 01, 2011, 12:37:44 AM
Fair enough O'Neill but I do havea big gripe with a lot of Arsenal fans about "The Wenger Way". As a Blackburn fan and having Big Sam for a while I got the typical "oh are you not annoyed at the way he plays football blah blah blah" after Sambagoes and makes a nuisance of himself and bustles and kicks the Arsenal defenders. The point I like to make is that all of the Arsenal fans who espouse "The Wenger Way" did not become Arsenal supporters during Wengers reign. Rather when George "Boring Boring Arsenal" Graham was in charge. . . in other words get off yer feckin high horse lads!!!

Having said that I have a lot of respect for what Arsenal have become but don't be giving out lectures about other teams style of play when that is what Arsenal were built on . . . and also win a few trophies before getting holier than thou with everyone else!!!

Rant Over!!

In fairness Screenexile The Arsenal have always run their club in a very old fashion proper way and when Wenger arrived he bought into that culture, Arsenal were always financially prudent but he brought a way playing football that was more pass and move than physical and direct, I suppose some of the Johnny come latelys would espouse this wheneve lack of trophies are mentioned but Arsenal over the last 100 years have always been there or thereabouts and have generally picked up one or two trophies per decade. The football at Arsenal played always depended on the managers philosophy (to me only West Ham and Man United have true cultures of playing pas and move), something that is still important to West Ham fans whereas Man United fans just care about trophies these days and seem oblivious to the more direct football they are playing (getting results but sh*t to watch).

Would love to see Bould in the centre of the Arsenal defence now and trust me he wasn't what you called as tidy footballer...

So you prefer this tippy tappy poor man barca stuff now over the George "Boring Boring Arsenal" Graham stuff that won league titles?

Would you prefer to win the league for 5 years and then go broke with the Glaziers or would you prefer a sustainable financial model?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on February 01, 2011, 10:38:33 AM
Quote from: muppet on February 01, 2011, 10:34:30 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 10:30:02 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2011, 09:24:47 AM
Quote from: screenexile on February 01, 2011, 12:37:44 AM
Fair enough O'Neill but I do havea big gripe with a lot of Arsenal fans about "The Wenger Way". As a Blackburn fan and having Big Sam for a while I got the typical "oh are you not annoyed at the way he plays football blah blah blah" after Sambagoes and makes a nuisance of himself and bustles and kicks the Arsenal defenders. The point I like to make is that all of the Arsenal fans who espouse "The Wenger Way" did not become Arsenal supporters during Wengers reign. Rather when George "Boring Boring Arsenal" Graham was in charge. . . in other words get off yer feckin high horse lads!!!

Having said that I have a lot of respect for what Arsenal have become but don't be giving out lectures about other teams style of play when that is what Arsenal were built on . . . and also win a few trophies before getting holier than thou with everyone else!!!

Rant Over!!

In fairness Screenexile The Arsenal have always run their club in a very old fashion proper way and when Wenger arrived he bought into that culture, Arsenal were always financially prudent but he brought a way playing football that was more pass and move than physical and direct, I suppose some of the Johnny come latelys would espouse this wheneve lack of trophies are mentioned but Arsenal over the last 100 years have always been there or thereabouts and have generally picked up one or two trophies per decade. The football at Arsenal played always depended on the managers philosophy (to me only West Ham and Man United have true cultures of playing pas and move), something that is still important to West Ham fans whereas Man United fans just care about trophies these days and seem oblivious to the more direct football they are playing (getting results but sh*t to watch).

Would love to see Bould in the centre of the Arsenal defence now and trust me he wasn't what you called as tidy footballer...

So you prefer this tippy tappy poor man barca stuff now over the George "Boring Boring Arsenal" Graham stuff that won league titles?

Would you prefer to win the league for 5 years and then go broke with the Glaziers or would you prefer a sustainable financial model?

Two completely seperate issues United are winning trophies in spite of the Glazers not because of them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 10:44:19 AM
Quote from: Boycey on February 01, 2011, 10:38:33 AM
Quote from: muppet on February 01, 2011, 10:34:30 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 10:30:02 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2011, 09:24:47 AM
Quote from: screenexile on February 01, 2011, 12:37:44 AM
Fair enough O'Neill but I do havea big gripe with a lot of Arsenal fans about "The Wenger Way". As a Blackburn fan and having Big Sam for a while I got the typical "oh are you not annoyed at the way he plays football blah blah blah" after Sambagoes and makes a nuisance of himself and bustles and kicks the Arsenal defenders. The point I like to make is that all of the Arsenal fans who espouse "The Wenger Way" did not become Arsenal supporters during Wengers reign. Rather when George "Boring Boring Arsenal" Graham was in charge. . . in other words get off yer feckin high horse lads!!!

Having said that I have a lot of respect for what Arsenal have become but don't be giving out lectures about other teams style of play when that is what Arsenal were built on . . . and also win a few trophies before getting holier than thou with everyone else!!!

Rant Over!!

In fairness Screenexile The Arsenal have always run their club in a very old fashion proper way and when Wenger arrived he bought into that culture, Arsenal were always financially prudent but he brought a way playing football that was more pass and move than physical and direct, I suppose some of the Johnny come latelys would espouse this wheneve lack of trophies are mentioned but Arsenal over the last 100 years have always been there or thereabouts and have generally picked up one or two trophies per decade. The football at Arsenal played always depended on the managers philosophy (to me only West Ham and Man United have true cultures of playing pas and move), something that is still important to West Ham fans whereas Man United fans just care about trophies these days and seem oblivious to the more direct football they are playing (getting results but sh*t to watch).

Would love to see Bould in the centre of the Arsenal defence now and trust me he wasn't what you called as tidy footballer...

So you prefer this tippy tappy poor man barca stuff now over the George "Boring Boring Arsenal" Graham stuff that won league titles?

Would you prefer to win the league for 5 years and then go broke with the Glaziers or would you prefer a sustainable financial model?

Two completely seperate issues United are winning trophies in spite of the Glazers not because of them.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 01, 2011, 10:57:23 AM
Quote from: Boycey on February 01, 2011, 10:38:33 AM
Quote from: muppet on February 01, 2011, 10:34:30 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 10:30:02 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2011, 09:24:47 AM
Quote from: screenexile on February 01, 2011, 12:37:44 AM
Fair enough O'Neill but I do havea big gripe with a lot of Arsenal fans about "The Wenger Way". As a Blackburn fan and having Big Sam for a while I got the typical "oh are you not annoyed at the way he plays football blah blah blah" after Sambagoes and makes a nuisance of himself and bustles and kicks the Arsenal defenders. The point I like to make is that all of the Arsenal fans who espouse "The Wenger Way" did not become Arsenal supporters during Wengers reign. Rather when George "Boring Boring Arsenal" Graham was in charge. . . in other words get off yer feckin high horse lads!!!

Having said that I have a lot of respect for what Arsenal have become but don't be giving out lectures about other teams style of play when that is what Arsenal were built on . . . and also win a few trophies before getting holier than thou with everyone else!!!

Rant Over!!

In fairness Screenexile The Arsenal have always run their club in a very old fashion proper way and when Wenger arrived he bought into that culture, Arsenal were always financially prudent but he brought a way playing football that was more pass and move than physical and direct, I suppose some of the Johnny come latelys would espouse this wheneve lack of trophies are mentioned but Arsenal over the last 100 years have always been there or thereabouts and have generally picked up one or two trophies per decade. The football at Arsenal played always depended on the managers philosophy (to me only West Ham and Man United have true cultures of playing pas and move), something that is still important to West Ham fans whereas Man United fans just care about trophies these days and seem oblivious to the more direct football they are playing (getting results but sh*t to watch).

Would love to see Bould in the centre of the Arsenal defence now and trust me he wasn't what you called as tidy footballer...

So you prefer this tippy tappy poor man barca stuff now over the George "Boring Boring Arsenal" Graham stuff that won league titles?

Would you prefer to win the league for 5 years and then go broke with the Glaziers or would you prefer a sustainable financial model?

Two completely seperate issues United are winning trophies in spite of the Glazers not because of them.

Its the same club.  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on February 01, 2011, 11:11:26 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 31, 2011, 11:36:26 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 31, 2011, 10:50:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2011, 10:38:37 PM
Arsenal do have 60K every week, in a stadium not yet paid for

They have controllable debts and refuse to risk their future for short term success, most intelligent Arsenal fans understand that.

QuoteBy the way Koscielni, Arshavin and Denilson could be switched into that team pretty easily and raise the cost by €30 mill

So less than 1 Ferdinand, interesting.

Yeah one Ferdinand or one Torres or maybe both in a three year spell, add a decent goalie and bobs your uncle you would win more and still be able to comfortably service the relatively small (by current standards) debt thats the whole point I'm making.

It's just not the Arsenal/Wenger way. I know it's hard for other sides to fathom, especially those who win things like Chelsea or Utd, but Arsenal fans take immense pride that the club go about their finances the proper way. Today Chelsea reported another 70m loss for the previous year, yet go out and spend that again today. That's the way they want to run their ship and it'll probably win them trophies. But there's just something cheap in that.

Look at the current Arsenal squad - how many were bought from Premier League rivals? Fergie and Chelsea raid their direct competitors (Rooney, Berba, Ferdinand, Valencia, Van Der, Carrick, Cole, Anelka, Lampard etc etc). Wenger doesn't do that as he takes no pride in buying ready made players from their own league. Again, it has brought them trophies but personally I take pride in being an Arsenal supporter as they're unique from the rest. And they play football.

Maybe I got off to a bad start I'm not slagging Wenger off, the job he's done is pretty amazing. The point is I think he's selling the fans short at this stage its like hes on some moral crusade. I'm not suggesting Arsenal go out and spend £100s of millions on star names but add one or two high profile signing over the last 2-3 years could have been the difference in being the eternal bridesmaid and being the bride...

Can I ask whats wrong with buying players from other Premier league clubs? Uniteds policy in general (I'm not qualified to talk on Chelsea) is to buy young players ready to make the step to the next level from the premier league and beyond. Its how the transfer market has worked for the last hundred years. Sometimes you pay big money but I don't think there is much wrong with that. I take pride in being a United supporter we too are unique and we play football, most of the time
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on February 01, 2011, 11:14:29 AM
Quote from: muppet on February 01, 2011, 10:57:23 AM
Quote from: Boycey on February 01, 2011, 10:38:33 AM
Quote from: muppet on February 01, 2011, 10:34:30 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 01, 2011, 10:30:02 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2011, 09:24:47 AM
Quote from: screenexile on February 01, 2011, 12:37:44 AM
Fair enough O'Neill but I do havea big gripe with a lot of Arsenal fans about "The Wenger Way". As a Blackburn fan and having Big Sam for a while I got the typical "oh are you not annoyed at the way he plays football blah blah blah" after Sambagoes and makes a nuisance of himself and bustles and kicks the Arsenal defenders. The point I like to make is that all of the Arsenal fans who espouse "The Wenger Way" did not become Arsenal supporters during Wengers reign. Rather when George "Boring Boring Arsenal" Graham was in charge. . . in other words get off yer feckin high horse lads!!!

Having said that I have a lot of respect for what Arsenal have become but don't be giving out lectures about other teams style of play when that is what Arsenal were built on . . . and also win a few trophies before getting holier than thou with everyone else!!!

Rant Over!!

In fairness Screenexile The Arsenal have always run their club in a very old fashion proper way and when Wenger arrived he bought into that culture, Arsenal were always financially prudent but he brought a way playing football that was more pass and move than physical and direct, I suppose some of the Johnny come latelys would espouse this wheneve lack of trophies are mentioned but Arsenal over the last 100 years have always been there or thereabouts and have generally picked up one or two trophies per decade. The football at Arsenal played always depended on the managers philosophy (to me only West Ham and Man United have true cultures of playing pas and move), something that is still important to West Ham fans whereas Man United fans just care about trophies these days and seem oblivious to the more direct football they are playing (getting results but sh*t to watch).

Would love to see Bould in the centre of the Arsenal defence now and trust me he wasn't what you called as tidy footballer...

So you prefer this tippy tappy poor man barca stuff now over the George "Boring Boring Arsenal" Graham stuff that won league titles?

Would you prefer to win the league for 5 years and then go broke with the Glaziers or would you prefer a sustainable financial model?

Two completely seperate issues United are winning trophies in spite of the Glazers not because of them.

Its the same club.  ::)

Good point, well made.

Either you want to have an adult debate about subject or you don't. I'm easy either way
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 01, 2011, 11:19:56 AM
Quote from: Boycey on February 01, 2011, 11:14:29 AM
Good point, well made.

Either you want to have an adult debate about subject or you don't. I'm easy either way

I didn't think I had to spell it out but there you go.

You criticise Arsenal for not winning trophies because they won't spend money. You are countered with the financial prudence argument. You then promote United as an example of spending and winning. However when it is pointed out how screwed United are financially you claim it (finance) is an entirely separate issue, blaming it on the Glaziers.

It is the same club.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on February 01, 2011, 11:38:05 AM
Quote from: muppet on February 01, 2011, 11:19:56 AM
Quote from: Boycey on February 01, 2011, 11:14:29 AM
Good point, well made.

Either you want to have an adult debate about subject or you don't. I'm easy either way

I didn't think I had to spell it out but there you go.

You criticise Arsenal for not winning trophies because they won't spend money. You are countered with the financial prudence argument. You then promote United as an example of spending and winning. However when it is pointed out how screwed United are financially you claim it (finance) is an entirely separate issue, blaming it on the Glaziers.

It is the same club.

United being financially screwed has nothing to do with spending on players as I'm sure you well know so yes I'm blaming it on the Glazers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2011, 11:49:27 AM
QuoteUnited being financially screwed has nothing to do with spending on players as I'm sure you well know so yes I'm blaming it on the Glazers.

Did you really just type this?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 01, 2011, 11:51:12 AM
Quote from: Boycey on February 01, 2011, 11:38:05 AM
Quote from: muppet on February 01, 2011, 11:19:56 AM
Quote from: Boycey on February 01, 2011, 11:14:29 AM
Good point, well made.

Either you want to have an adult debate about subject or you don't. I'm easy either way

I didn't think I had to spell it out but there you go.

You criticise Arsenal for not winning trophies because they won't spend money. You are countered with the financial prudence argument. You then promote United as an example of spending and winning. However when it is pointed out how screwed United are financially you claim it (finance) is an entirely separate issue, blaming it on the Glaziers.

It is the same club.

United being financially screwed has nothing to do with spending on players as I'm sure you well know so yes I'm blaming it on the Glazers.

It has everything to do with running a club prudently. You bank with Anglo you endorse Seanie Fitz.

TBH if some wealthy git bought Arsenal as his plaything it would be the final straw for me. I wouldn't care about the trophies.

I hope my young fella ignores it (though I concede that is unlikely) and sticks to Gaa or even rugby.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on February 01, 2011, 11:54:04 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2011, 11:49:27 AM
QuoteUnited being financially screwed has nothing to do with spending on players as I'm sure you well know so yes I'm blaming it on the Glazers.

Did you really just type this?

I did, u disagree??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on February 01, 2011, 12:02:52 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 01, 2011, 11:51:12 AM
Quote from: Boycey on February 01, 2011, 11:38:05 AM
Quote from: muppet on February 01, 2011, 11:19:56 AM
Quote from: Boycey on February 01, 2011, 11:14:29 AM
Good point, well made.

Either you want to have an adult debate about subject or you don't. I'm easy either way

I didn't think I had to spell it out but there you go.

You criticise Arsenal for not winning trophies because they won't spend money. You are countered with the financial prudence argument. You then promote United as an example of spending and winning. However when it is pointed out how screwed United are financially you claim it (finance) is an entirely separate issue, blaming it on the Glaziers.

It is the same club.

United being financially screwed has nothing to do with spending on players as I'm sure you well know so yes I'm blaming it on the Glazers.

It has everything to do with running a club prudently. You bank with Anglo you endorse Seanie Fitz.

TBH if some wealthy git bought Arsenal as his plaything it would be the final straw for me. I wouldn't care about the trophies.

I hope my young fella ignores it (though I concede that is unlikely) and sticks to Gaa or even rugby.

Well thats one thing we agree on then cause the day the sugar daddy comes to United is the day I finally quit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 01, 2011, 07:36:31 PM
Back to the standard league selection tonight with Rosicky replacing Nasri. Thought Arshavin or Bendtner would've received the nod but a strong midfield nonetheless.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 01, 2011, 07:58:58 PM
Everton starting brightly. Seem to be full of confidence, winning most 50/50s.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 01, 2011, 08:02:40 PM
nice touch by rvp to fab
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 01, 2011, 08:07:23 PM
Fabgregas is narky these days. Playing like a demon, just on the right side of agression. Needs to be careful. Wishere on a yellow  too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 01, 2011, 08:14:56 PM
WTF?

3 yards offside.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 01, 2011, 08:20:55 PM
These are the games that United go on to win.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 01, 2011, 08:21:37 PM
Some pressure on the officials now, especially the linesman. It seems the lino didn't know the rules.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2011, 08:38:51 PM
Need a lineswoman in there - that was a shocking decision - Fellaini the big bollix having his usual good game against Arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 01, 2011, 09:23:31 PM
needed that 20 minutes to keep with in touching distance of utd
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 01, 2011, 09:49:29 PM
Great second half performance. Keeping in touch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 01, 2011, 09:51:35 PM
And the spuds are 16 points off the pace.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 01, 2011, 09:53:13 PM
Any links to the goals?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2011, 10:03:13 PM
Last season Arsenal might have only drawn that game after going a goal down, great attitude in the 2nd half, really worked hard and deserved the win, the little Russian starting to show form as well...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 01, 2011, 10:27:01 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on February 01, 2011, 09:53:13 PM
Any links to the goals?

Saha goal - http://arsenalist.com/video/?id=xgujyz

Arshavin - http://arsenalist.com/video/?id=xguksl

Winner - http://arsenalist.com/video/?id=xgukvs
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 01, 2011, 10:30:27 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2011, 10:03:13 PM
Last season Arsenal might have only drawn that game after going a goal down, great attitude in the 2nd half, really worked hard and deserved the win, the little Russian starting to show form as well...

I like how he was all business and right out to the centre circle to get it going again after he scored.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 01, 2011, 10:33:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 01, 2011, 10:27:01 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on February 01, 2011, 09:53:13 PM
Any links to the goals?

Saha goal - http://arsenalist.com/video/?id=xgujyz

Arshavin - http://arsenalist.com/video/?id=xguksl

Winner - http://arsenalist.com/video/?id=xgukvs

Good man.

2 good goals.

Hopefully Arshavin kicks on from this and the big centre half knocks in a few more.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 01, 2011, 10:34:06 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on February 01, 2011, 10:30:27 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2011, 10:03:13 PM
Last season Arsenal might have only drawn that game after going a goal down, great attitude in the 2nd half, really worked hard and deserved the win, the little Russian starting to show form as well...

I like how he was all business and right out to the centre circle to get it going again after he scored.

Liked that as well Puck.

An eagerness to go for the kill.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 01, 2011, 11:03:55 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 01, 2011, 10:33:14 PM

Saha goal - http://arsenalist.com/video/?id=xgujyz

Arshavin - http://arsenalist.com/video/?id=xguksl

Winner - http://arsenalist.com/video/?id=xgukvs

Thanks for that. HTF was the first one allowed?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2011, 12:09:10 AM
Heard someone going on about 'first phase' and 'second phase' but surely as soon as the ball left the assist's feet the flag should have gone up.

Bit of a palaver afterwards with Moyes saying Cesc's abuse of the ref in the tunnel at HT was a red card incdient. Cesc is very ratty these days.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 02, 2011, 12:15:19 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 02, 2011, 12:09:10 AM
Heard someone going on about 'first phase' and 'second phase' but surely as soon as the ball left the assist's feet the flag should have gone up.

Bit of a palaver afterwards with Moyes saying Cesc's abuse of the ref in the tunnel at HT was a red card incdient. Cesc is very ratty these days.

If that was Wenger they would be asking him if he saw the offside.

Saha was offside when the pass was made. The fact that it wasn't a perfect pass and the defender got a toe to it doesn't change that. Do the authorities want the defender to be afraid to play the ball?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2011, 12:50:49 AM
Wenger sorta says Moyes is talking bollocks - http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,12602_6717595,00.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 02, 2011, 08:50:07 AM
Opposition manager tries to deflect from a defeat what a shocker..

Good to see Wenger has hearing issues to add to his blindness...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: johnneycool on February 02, 2011, 09:32:04 AM
Quote from: muppet on February 02, 2011, 12:15:19 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 02, 2011, 12:09:10 AM
Heard someone going on about 'first phase' and 'second phase' but surely as soon as the ball left the assist's feet the flag should have gone up.

Bit of a palaver afterwards with Moyes saying Cesc's abuse of the ref in the tunnel at HT was a red card incdient. Cesc is very ratty these days.

If that was Wenger they would be asking him if he saw the offside.

Saha was offside when the pass was made. The fact that it wasn't a perfect pass and the defender got a toe to it doesn't change that. Do the authorities want the defender to be afraid to play the ball?

Moyes was asked on Sky and he said it was offside but the assistant didn't give it. what do you want him to say? That he never saw it perhaps.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 02, 2011, 12:58:43 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on February 02, 2011, 09:32:04 AM
Quote from: muppet on February 02, 2011, 12:15:19 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 02, 2011, 12:09:10 AM
Heard someone going on about 'first phase' and 'second phase' but surely as soon as the ball left the assist's feet the flag should have gone up.

Bit of a palaver afterwards with Moyes saying Cesc's abuse of the ref in the tunnel at HT was a red card incdient. Cesc is very ratty these days.

If that was Wenger they would be asking him if he saw the offside.

Saha was offside when the pass was made. The fact that it wasn't a perfect pass and the defender got a toe to it doesn't change that. Do the authorities want the defender to be afraid to play the ball?

Moyes was asked on Sky and he said it was offside but the assistant didn't give it. what do you want him to say? That he never saw it perhaps.

So in conclusion he wanted Fabregas red carded for over-reacting to an injustice which he agreed had happened? If Cesc was out of order he should be dealt with by the authorities. What Moyes wanted was to have his cake (offside goal) and eat it (Cesc red-carded for complaining about it).

I love Premiership football logic.

Maybe we should have a thread on this subject. You know the logic whereby Torres is a sc**bag to some fans for leaving a club for more money while Carroll and Suarez are heroes to the same fans even though they did exactly the same thing. Not to mention that Torres did the same thing to go there in the first place.

This sport and its heros are advertised as role models and this is targeted at our kids and I'm not ignoring Fabregas as a bad example here either.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on February 02, 2011, 02:00:10 PM

I think Moyes' point was that 'the game changed' after cesc's (alleged) ht outburst at the ref - inferring that the officials rode them in the second half to compensate for the first half 'error' - brought about by cesc's intervention. its a stretch...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: johnneycool on February 02, 2011, 03:46:21 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 02, 2011, 02:00:10 PM

I think Moyes' point was that 'the game changed' after cesc's (alleged) ht outburst at the ref - inferring that the officials rode them in the second half to compensate for the first half 'error' - brought about by cesc's intervention. its a stretch...

What, its a stretch that a high profile player vilifies and abuses (allegedly) a match official at half time for an obvious error which was probably confirmed to him at half time, gives the sinned against team the benefit of the doubt in the second half in an attempt to counteract the initial mistake?

I'd say it happens all the time, Ferguson is renowned for it, but I don't think that's what Moyes was getting at. I think he was implying that Fabregas's abuse was sufficient to warrant a red card, even in the tunnel, now if anyone should know it would be Moyes who's been fined on several occasions for abusing match officials, but sure Fabregas didn't even speak to the ref according to Arsene.
For what its worth I don't think any of the Arsenal goals were directly or indirectly attributed to the ref being harsh on Everton.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 05, 2011, 10:49:42 AM
What's everyones thoughts on todays game?

A win is the only option in IMO.

Really important to close this gap ASAP!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 05, 2011, 03:06:38 PM
0-2 game over after 3mins?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 05, 2011, 03:27:32 PM
0-3 after 10, game over!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 05, 2011, 04:38:55 PM
Newcastle winning this half 2-0 another goal for them would make it a very interesting last 10mins
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on February 05, 2011, 04:50:07 PM
4-4 now. Unreal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 05, 2011, 04:51:15 PM
FFS - 3 dives = 2 penalties + free kick = 3 goals

Awful refereeing

Will probably lose now

Joey Barton is an odious creature

Daiby is just dumb
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: sammymaguire on February 05, 2011, 04:55:41 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 05, 2011, 03:27:32 PM
0-3 after 10, game over!

Hope you didnt lump on them at 100/1 on  :o :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 05, 2011, 04:58:23 PM
unbelievable  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 05, 2011, 05:00:05 PM
First port of call for blame is Diaby. Stupid Stupid Stupid. f**king Stupid.

Penalty call for the 3rd goal is beyond a disgrace. Wenger will quite rightly have a canary about this one - and probably get fined. Stupid Stupid Stupid.


f**king Stupid game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 05, 2011, 05:01:40 PM
Ah now lads, less of the sour grapes deflecting attention from a great comeback/almost total collapse.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 05, 2011, 05:03:47 PM
Where was Van Persie,Fabregas in that 2nd half? gone missing when Arsenal needed leaders

Newcastle could have won 5-4
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 05, 2011, 05:06:36 PM
RVP scores the winner and it's ruled off-side, clearly on-side unbelievable

Oh throw in Nolan replicating Diaby's actions on Chesney Hawkes and the Arsenal goal-keeper gets booked, you couldn't make it up.

Absolute imcompetence from the match officials.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on February 05, 2011, 05:12:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 05, 2011, 05:06:36 PM
RVP scores the winner and it's ruled off-side, clearly on-side unbelievable

Oh throw in Nolan replicating Diaby's actions on Chesney Hawkes and the Arsenal goal-keeper gets booked, you couldn't make it up.

Absolute imcompetence from the match officials.

That argument will go as far as two goals or maybe three but to throw away a four goal lead is almost unheard of.
The Arsenal team and the officials should be ashamed.
It's pathetic how often the same old failings haunt Arsenal yet every transfer window they're linked with some flying winger or a midfield wonderkid. Crazy club.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on February 05, 2011, 05:16:08 PM
Mental midgets
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on February 05, 2011, 05:17:33 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 05, 2011, 05:06:36 PM
RVP scores the winner and it's ruled off-side, clearly on-side unbelievable

Oh throw in Nolan replicating Diaby's actions on Chesney Hawkes and the Arsenal goal-keeper gets booked, you couldn't make it up.

Absolute imcompetence from the match officials.

I see myopia isn't confined to the manager.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 05, 2011, 05:19:46 PM
Menatally fragile absolutely and throw in match official incompetence, well we saw the result today..

Arsenals defence suffered a double blow the defensive midfield cover was sent off and Djourou was replaced by something resembling a footballer..

Still good away point.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 05, 2011, 05:21:19 PM
And the children come to this thread in their droves, shall leave it till Monday when the adults return.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on February 05, 2011, 05:26:26 PM
Arsenal's spine of jelly comes to the fore once again!

lmfao! :D ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 05, 2011, 05:29:25 PM
Im beginning to warm to the Glaziers despite their greed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 05, 2011, 05:36:13 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on February 05, 2011, 04:55:41 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 05, 2011, 03:27:32 PM
0-3 after 10, game over!

Hope you didnt lump on them at 100/1 on  :o :o

Went for a walk with the dogs and land back to 4-4, holy shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 05, 2011, 06:18:38 PM
Seriously Ref what the f**K!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 05, 2011, 07:26:19 PM
Quote from: under the bar on February 05, 2011, 05:26:26 PM
Arsenal's spine of jelly comes to the fore once again!

lmfao! :D ;D :D ;D

You must be delighted Man United were able take advantage of Arsenal's slip up
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on February 05, 2011, 07:26:40 PM
Good point away from home for the Arse today gaining ground on the scum . . .  well die lads!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 05, 2011, 07:29:00 PM
Point gained on Man U
and goal difference reduced
Goals scored increased - after 1989 never rule this out.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 05, 2011, 07:31:14 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 05, 2011, 07:29:00 PM
Point gained on Man U
and goal difference reduced
Goals scored increased - after 1989 never rule this out.

Yeah that's one way to look at it Dinny
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 05, 2011, 07:43:15 PM
What a day! Disappointment to total relief. Arsenal totally lacking balls when the Newcastle crowd tried to create a cauldron at 1-4. Can't blame the officials for being 4-0 up after 67 mins and not winning.

However, Fergie will retire having failed to emulate the great Wenger team of 03/04. ANd that makes me very, very happy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Rossfan on February 05, 2011, 07:43:54 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 05, 2011, 05:06:36 PM
RVP scores the winner and it's ruled off-side, clearly on-side unbelievable

Oh throw in Nolan replicating Diaby's actions on Chesney Hawkes and the Arsenal goal-keeper gets booked, you couldn't make it up.

Absolute imcompetence from the match officials.

You must of missed the Leon Bests perfectly good goal that was ruled offside.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 05, 2011, 07:46:10 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 05, 2011, 07:43:54 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 05, 2011, 05:06:36 PM
RVP scores the winner and it's ruled off-side, clearly on-side unbelievable

Oh throw in Nolan replicating Diaby's actions on Chesney Hawkes and the Arsenal goal-keeper gets booked, you couldn't make it up.

Absolute imcompetence from the match officials.

You must of missed the Leon Bests perfectly good goal that was ruled offside.

Did you log in with this username by mistake? You don't like or watch soccer I thought...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 05, 2011, 07:47:23 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 05, 2011, 07:43:54 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 05, 2011, 05:06:36 PM
RVP scores the winner and it's ruled off-side, clearly on-side unbelievable

Oh throw in Nolan replicating Diaby's actions on Chesney Hawkes and the Arsenal goal-keeper gets booked, you couldn't make it up.

Absolute imcompetence from the match officials.


Watch that one again slim.
You must of missed the Leon Bests perfectly good goal that was ruled offside.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on February 05, 2011, 07:49:54 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 05, 2011, 07:43:15 PM
What a day! Disappointment to total relief. Arsenal totally lacking balls when the Newcastle crowd tried to create a cauldron at 1-4. Can't blame the officials for being 4-0 up after 67 mins and not winning.

However, Fergie will retire having failed to emulate the great Wenger team of 03/04. ANd that makes me very, very happy.

I'm sure as he looks at his 11/12 league titles plus blah blah blah he'll sleep sound enough
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 05, 2011, 07:57:14 PM
Quote from: Boycey on February 05, 2011, 07:49:54 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 05, 2011, 07:43:15 PM
What a day! Disappointment to total relief. Arsenal totally lacking balls when the Newcastle crowd tried to create a cauldron at 1-4. Can't blame the officials for being 4-0 up after 67 mins and not winning.

However, Fergie will retire having failed to emulate the great Wenger team of 03/04. ANd that makes me very, very happy.

I'm sure as he looks at his 11/12 league titles plus blah blah blah he'll sleep sound enough

Couldn't care how Fergie sleeps. It makes me happy. Petty but it's about the only thing Arsenal have alone.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 05, 2011, 08:05:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 05, 2011, 07:57:14 PM
Quote from: Boycey on February 05, 2011, 07:49:54 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 05, 2011, 07:43:15 PM
What a day! Disappointment to total relief. Arsenal totally lacking balls when the Newcastle crowd tried to create a cauldron at 1-4. Can't blame the officials for being 4-0 up after 67 mins and not winning.

However, Fergie will retire having failed to emulate the great Wenger team of 03/04. ANd that makes me very, very happy.

I'm sure as he looks at his 11/12 league titles plus blah blah blah he'll sleep sound enough

Couldn't care how Fergie sleeps. It makes me happy. Petty but it's about the only thing Arsenal have alone.

United could have gone the season unbeaten but still lose out on the title & that kinda thing would give fergie sleepless nights! Arsenals unbeaten record is up there with the most goals scored & points got by Chelsea.

Anyways that United defeat opens up the title race & nobody wants to see a team winning the league at a canter.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 05, 2011, 08:06:55 PM
Spurs are creeping up too. Seem to be winning by the odd goal regularly. Could be a 5-team race by mid-March.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 05, 2011, 08:11:16 PM
Newcastle scored 4 in 19 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on February 05, 2011, 09:31:06 PM
QuoteHowever, Fergie will retire having failed to emulate the great Wenger team of 03/04. ANd that makes me very, very happy.

That would be akin to Roger Federer failing to emulate Greg Rudetski!

When Arsenal's titles are counted up the only further stat that will count is that they haven't managed to retain one.    No need to ask why.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 05, 2011, 09:37:44 PM
Quote from: under the bar on February 05, 2011, 09:31:06 PM
QuoteHowever, Fergie will retire having failed to emulate the great Wenger team of 03/04. ANd that makes me very, very happy.

That would be akin to Roger Federer failing to emulate Greg Rudetski!

When Arsenal's titles are counted up the only further stat that will count is that they haven't managed to retain one.    No need to ask why.

Funny you should mention Federer. Along with Woods they set targets of beating and setting all of the records within their games. Kilkenny and Kerry will forever think of 2010 and 1982 respectively, not because of the individual title. That is what most at the top of their games do.

It is likely Ferguson does too, but then we have loads of posters here who can tell us exactly how he sleeps never mind how he thinks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 05, 2011, 09:38:30 PM
Jaysus lads yiz are awful sensitive. This is an Arsenal Delusion thread. Locals only.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 05, 2011, 09:43:06 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 05, 2011, 09:38:30 PM
Jaysus lads yiz are awful sensitive. This is an Arsenal Delusion thread. Locals only.

Sorry O'Neill I think I might have attracted some of the outsiders over here...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 05, 2011, 09:49:32 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 05, 2011, 05:06:36 PM
RVP scores the winner and it's ruled off-side, clearly on-side unbelievable

Oh throw in Nolan replicating Diaby's actions on Chesney Hawkes and the Arsenal goal-keeper gets booked, you couldn't make it up.

Absolute imcompetence from the match officials.

i closed my eyes there and pictured that being said in a French accent. Hows it going Dinny Wenger !
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 05, 2011, 10:17:45 PM
I didn't read that post
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 05, 2011, 10:26:25 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 05, 2011, 10:17:45 PM
I didn't read see  that post
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on February 05, 2011, 10:39:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 05, 2011, 09:37:44 PM
Quote from: under the bar on February 05, 2011, 09:31:06 PM
QuoteHowever, Fergie will retire having failed to emulate the great Wenger team of 03/04. ANd that makes me very, very happy.

That would be akin to Roger Federer failing to emulate Greg Rudetski!

When Arsenal's titles are counted up the only further stat that will count is that they haven't managed to retain one.    No need to ask why.

Funny you should mention Federer. Along with Woods they set targets of beating and setting all of the records within their games. Kilkenny and Kerry will forever think of 2010 and 1982 respectively, not because of the individual title. That is what most at the top of their games do.

It is likely Ferguson does too, but then we have loads of posters here who can tell us exactly how he sleeps never mind how he thinks.

At least O'Neill admits he's being petty you are still clinging to the thought that when Fergie retires despite all he's won he'll think dammit Arsene has a longer unbeaten run than me my lifes incomplete.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 05, 2011, 10:42:00 PM
Quote from: Boycey on February 05, 2011, 10:39:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 05, 2011, 09:37:44 PM
Quote from: under the bar on February 05, 2011, 09:31:06 PM
QuoteHowever, Fergie will retire having failed to emulate the great Wenger team of 03/04. ANd that makes me very, very happy.

That would be akin to Roger Federer failing to emulate Greg Rudetski!

When Arsenal's titles are counted up the only further stat that will count is that they haven't managed to retain one.    No need to ask why.

Funny you should mention Federer. Along with Woods they set targets of beating and setting all of the records within their games. Kilkenny and Kerry will forever think of 2010 and 1982 respectively, not because of the individual title. That is what most at the top of their games do.

It is likely Ferguson does too, but then we have loads of posters here who can tell us exactly how he sleeps never mind how he thinks.

At least O'Neill admits he's being petty you are still clinging to the thought that when Fergie retires despite all he's won he'll think dammit Arsene has a longer unbeaten run than me my lifes incomplete.

Why does it bother you though?

You can't let it go that someone somewhere might think Fergie had a bad day.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 05, 2011, 11:03:08 PM
I honestly do think it eats Fergie up. He knows that Wenger achieved something he probably never will. I think I read it somewhere though not sure where. May have been on here by a poster.

It might be a blessing in disguise for Utd. They could've become all defensive to protect the unbeaten run which they've now failed in. Now they can let loose with Gibson an all.

Back to the Gunners - what did today tell us - that the soft underbelly is still there. It never went away as it's still the same players. Amazing that they're only four off the pace.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on February 06, 2011, 12:28:31 AM
Ferguson, Wenger et al are in the trophy business.  That's all they are concerned about.  Unbeaten runs, winning streaks, cleans sheets etc are merely for fans to self-satisfy themselves with.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 06, 2011, 12:35:43 AM
Quote from: under the bar on February 06, 2011, 12:28:31 AM
Ferguson, Wenger et al are in the trophy business.  That's all they are concerned about.  Unbeaten runs, winning streaks, cleans sheets etc are merely for fans to self-satisfy themselves with.

Not money?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 06, 2011, 12:37:04 AM
as everyone is probably aware by now im a neutral (forest fan) but i love football, especially the premier league, as most people do, but even though fergie, mourinho, etc etc have their faults, Wenger is an absolute w**ker.


I love Arsenal as a team, and i hope they win the league, but this tool is becoming increasingly hard to listen to. "I did not see it" is obviously a famous phrase but after midweek, according to Moyes, I did not hear it seems to be a new phrase. No sympathy for him today, just the team, cause i hate them geordie bastards
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 06, 2011, 12:37:19 AM
Quote from: under the bar on February 06, 2011, 12:28:31 AM
Ferguson, Wenger et al are in the trophy business.  That's all they are concerned about.  Unbeaten runs, winning streaks, cleans sheets etc are merely for fans to self-satisfy themselves with.

Nonsense. Huddersfield won a few titles in the 20s but who remembers that? 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on February 06, 2011, 12:39:28 AM
I read something a few years ago that Mr Ferguson is "consumed" by winning the Champions League, yet the fans seem more interested in the EPL, go figure.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 06, 2011, 12:40:02 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 06, 2011, 12:37:04 AM
as everyone is probably aware by now im a neutral (forest fan) but i love football, especially the premier league, as most people do, but even though fergie, mourinho, etc etc have their faults, Wenger is an absolute w**ker.


I love Arsenal as a team, and i hope they win the league, but this tool is becoming increasingly hard to listen to. "I did not see it" is obviously a famous phrase but after midweek, according to Moyes, I did not hear it seems to be a new phrase. No sympathy for him today, just the team, cause i hate them geordie b**tards

Have it admit I didn't know you were a neutral nor a Forest fan. Actually didn't know you were a soccer fan. I did know you posted on here. Honestly thought you were from Connaught or maybe even America.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 06, 2011, 12:52:36 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 06, 2011, 12:39:28 AM
I read something a few years ago that Mr Ferguson is "consumed" by winning the Champions League, yet the fans seem more interested in the EPL, go figure.

When Fergie arrived at OT in 86 he said i came here to knock liverpool (18 league titles to United's 7) Off Their F***ing Perch. thats why we are more interested in EPL & why Fergie will retire a happy man.

Winning cups along the way is added bonus.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Mike Tyson on February 06, 2011, 12:57:00 AM
Back to today's match. Thought it was a wild bit of officiating from Phil Dowd. Think Wenger and Wilshire have every right to be pissed off
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on February 06, 2011, 12:57:45 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 06, 2011, 12:39:28 AM
I read something a few years ago that Mr Ferguson is "consumed" by winning the Champions League, yet the fans seem more interested in the EPL, go figure.

So ONeill read somewhere that he's eaten up by Wengers "invincibles" and you read someone he's "consumed" by winning the CL  :D :D.

Go figure
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 06, 2011, 12:59:19 AM
Quote from: Boycey on February 06, 2011, 12:57:45 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 06, 2011, 12:39:28 AM
I read something a few years ago that Mr Ferguson is "consumed" by winning the Champions League, yet the fans seem more interested in the EPL, go figure.

So ONeill read somewhere that he's eaten up by Wengers "invincibles" and you read someone he's "consumed" by winning the CL  :D :D.

Go figure

Hmmmm if I were Doctor House I'd say..........Necrotizing fasciitis
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 06, 2011, 01:00:08 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 06, 2011, 12:52:36 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 06, 2011, 12:39:28 AM
I read something a few years ago that Mr Ferguson is "consumed" by winning the Champions League, yet the fans seem more interested in the EPL, go figure.

When Fergie arrived at OT in 86 he said i came here to knock liverpool (18 league titles to United's 7) Off Their F***ing Perch. thats why we are more interested in EPL & why Fergie will retire a happy man.


I always shed a quiet tear when I hear pseudo-Utd fans quote that. Cos he said it in 2002.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 06, 2011, 01:02:10 AM
Quote from: Boycey on February 06, 2011, 12:57:45 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 06, 2011, 12:39:28 AM
I read something a few years ago that Mr Ferguson is "consumed" by winning the Champions League, yet the fans seem more interested in the EPL, go figure.

So ONeill read somewhere that he's eaten up by Wengers "invincibles" and you read someone he's "consumed" by winning the CL  :D :D.

Go figure

I don't think you're really getting it atall are you. Anyway, I once read that Fergie dressed up in his granny's underwear. It may also have been on here. Maybe by me. Right now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 06, 2011, 01:39:25 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2011, 01:00:08 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 06, 2011, 12:52:36 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 06, 2011, 12:39:28 AM
I read something a few years ago that Mr Ferguson is "consumed" by winning the Champions League, yet the fans seem more interested in the EPL, go figure.

When Fergie arrived at OT in 86 he said i came here to knock liverpool (18 league titles to United's 7) Off Their F***ing Perch. thats why we are more interested in EPL & why Fergie will retire a happy man.


I always shed a quiet tear when I hear pseudo-Utd fans quote that. Cos he said it in 2002.


Liverpool were long knocked off their perch in 2002 thats why he felt the need to repeat the quote in an interview! though united fans & i'm sure fergie will want to make it official sooner rather than later

BTW pseudo-Utd fan please your not the Dinny of this board your better than that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 06, 2011, 03:00:47 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 05, 2011, 07:43:15 PM
What a day! Disappointment to total relief. Arsenal totally lacking balls when the Newcastle crowd tried to create a cauldron at 1-4. Can't blame the officials for being 4-0 up after 67 mins and not winning.

However, Fergie will retire having failed to emulate the great Wenger team of 03/04. ANd that makes me very, very happy.

Thank God!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 06, 2011, 03:06:22 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 06, 2011, 12:52:36 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 06, 2011, 12:39:28 AM
I read something a few years ago that Mr Ferguson is "consumed" by winning the Champions League, yet the fans seem more interested in the EPL, go figure.

When Fergie arrived at OT in 86 he said i came here to knock liverpool (18 league titles to United's 7) Off Their F***ing Perch. thats why we are more interested in EPL & why Fergie will retire a happy man.
Winning cups along the way is added bonus.

He'll never be an invincible.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 06, 2011, 09:01:07 AM
Quoteas everyone is probably aware by now im a neutral (forest fan) but i love football, especially the premier league, as most people do, but even though fergie, mourinho, etc etc have their faults, Wenger is an absolute w**ker.

Is that not a paradox?

Wenger suffers from a refusal to be critical of his team in public (All managers do it but somehow this is used as a constant stick to beat him with) but is honest on every other question and has an opinion on everything so the media love him because he's a rent a quote and he's foreign the anti-little englander.

Wenger was very similar to Fergie in that both were consumed by winning and both had philosophies of attractive high tempo football, they have taken different paths in recent years with Fergie it's now just about the winning (driven more by the greedy owners) and now his team is essentially a long ball side with no guile in midfield apart from an aging Scholes and Giggs but it's effective as he has instilled a fantastic work-rate in aveage footballers such as Fletcher, Anderson, Carrick and Park etc and they have this belief because they play for Man United, all great sporting cultures have that belief, something money can't buy.

With Wenger it now seems to be more winning in the right way (is there such a thing?) and his project is a thing of beauty in full flow and when you consider the economics behind it truly amazing but when it goes wrong such as yesterday Wenger and his supporters will roll out the excuses and refuse to accept that perhaps they're other uglier ways to winning and that rather than blame a perhaps flawed philosophy and a mental fragiliity which is perhaps due more to the age profile that anything else (I think last season Arsenal threw away 2 goal leads against Villa, West Ham and Wigan).

It galls me to see Mourhinho mentioned in the same breath as  Wenger and Fergie, those two have created legacies, if they were women they would be marriage material, Mourhino looks good and would be a a bit of fun for a couple of years but with him on your arm you'd lose yoiur friends and family and once you broke up you'd just stumble from bad relationship to bad relationship and eventually hit the bottle and die a lonely man...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 06, 2011, 09:42:42 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 06, 2011, 01:39:25 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 06, 2011, 01:00:08 AM
Quote from: ross4life on February 06, 2011, 12:52:36 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 06, 2011, 12:39:28 AM
I read something a few years ago that Mr Ferguson is "consumed" by winning the Champions League, yet the fans seem more interested in the EPL, go figure.

When Fergie arrived at OT in 86 he said i came here to knock liverpool (18 league titles to United's 7) Off Their F***ing Perch. thats why we are more interested in EPL & why Fergie will retire a happy man.


I always shed a quiet tear when I hear pseudo-Utd fans quote that. Cos he said it in 2002.


Liverpool were long knocked off their perch in 2002 thats why he felt the need to repeat the quote in an interview! though united fans & i'm sure fergie will want to make it official sooner rather than later

BTW pseudo-Utd fan please your not the Dinny of this board your better than that.

When/where was the original quote? Accuracy please, on this thread.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 06, 2011, 09:46:33 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 06, 2011, 09:01:07 AM
if they were women they would be marriage material, Mourhino looks good and would be a a bit of fun for a couple of years but with him on your arm you'd lose yoiur friends and family and once you broke up you'd just stumble from bad relationship to bad relationship and eventually hit the bottle and die a lonely man...

Yea, and she'd grow a beard probably.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: FermGael on February 06, 2011, 10:23:50 AM
Arsenal defensive record is excellent whenever Djourou plays.
He was subbed yesterday after Arsenal were 4-0 up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 06, 2011, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 06, 2011, 09:01:07 AM
Quoteas everyone is probably aware by now im a neutral (forest fan) but i love football, especially the premier league, as most people do, but even though fergie, mourinho, etc etc have their faults, Wenger is an absolute w**ker.



Wenger was very similar to Fergie in that both were consumed by winning and both had philosophies of attractive high tempo football, they have taken different paths in recent years with Fergie it's now just about the winning (driven more by the greedy owners) and now his team is essentially a long ball side with no guile in midfield apart from an aging Scholes and Giggs but it's effective as he has instilled a fantastic work-rate in aveage footballers such as Fletcher, Anderson, Carrick and Park etc and they have this belief because they play for Man United, all great sporting cultures have that belief, something money can't buy.


You don't watch many united games do you? even yesterday in the mud of Molineux united kept the ball down & tried to play football but where outfoxed by Wolves long ball tactics & relying on setpieces to score goals

Sure Uniteds standard of play is no where near of recent years (hard to keep up the the incredible high standards they set in the early 90s) but reading your posts you would be lead to believe United have been playing similar football to Birmingham or Stoke city?

The likes of Fletcher, Park etc average? the same guys that have won it all & to think a fellow poster called for accuracy on this thread

Anyways I'm off to Longford to see real muck football where winning is all the matters in the hell-hole of Division 4.


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Mike Tyson on February 06, 2011, 03:48:50 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 06, 2011, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 06, 2011, 09:01:07 AM
Quoteas everyone is probably aware by now im a neutral (forest fan) but i love football, especially the premier league, as most people do, but even though fergie, mourinho, etc etc have their faults, Wenger is an absolute w**ker.



Wenger was very similar to Fergie in that both were consumed by winning and both had philosophies of attractive high tempo football, they have taken different paths in recent years with Fergie it's now just about the winning (driven more by the greedy owners) and now his team is essentially a long ball side with no guile in midfield apart from an aging Scholes and Giggs but it's effective as he has instilled a fantastic work-rate in aveage footballers such as Fletcher, Anderson, Carrick and Park etc and they have this belief because they play for Man United, all great sporting cultures have that belief, something money can't buy.


You don't watch many united games do you? even yesterday in the mud of Molineux united kept the ball down & tried to play football but where outfoxed by Wolves long ball tactics & relying on setpieces to score goals

Sure Uniteds standard of play is no where near of recent years (hard to keep up the the incredible high standards they set in the early 90s) but reading your posts you would be lead to believe United have been playing similar football to Birmingham or Stoke city?

The likes of Fletcher, Park etc average? the same guys that have won it all & to think a fellow poster called for accuracy on this thread

Anyways I'm off to Longford to see real muck football where winning is all the matters in the hell-hole of Division 4.

Were you watching the same match as the rest of us?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on February 06, 2011, 04:30:23 PM
Arsenal will not win the league any time soon, they simply dont have the bottle and that was a complete choke job yesterday, yeah the ref got a decision wrong but that should not have mattered, to conceed four in  less than twenty minutes is a disgrace for a club that have a four goal lead, especially a great footballing side like arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 06, 2011, 10:20:43 PM
1st team in premiership history to go unbeaten away from home

1st team in premiership history to go unbeaten all season

1st premiership team in history to drop points when leading by 4 goals

Yes The ARSENAL. Unbelievable!!!!             
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on February 07, 2011, 06:24:23 AM
What was the name of the trophy that Arsenal won for going the season unbeaten?? I've looked everywhere online and can't find it  ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: downtown on February 07, 2011, 09:18:18 AM
There were  nicknamed the invincibles and won the invisable trophy which they still have to this day!!!

No other team is gona take their trophy this yr either!! lol  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 07, 2011, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: new devil on February 07, 2011, 06:24:23 AM
What was the name of the trophy that Arsenal won for going the season unbeaten?? I've looked everywhere online and can't find it  ???

The premiership?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on February 07, 2011, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 06, 2011, 09:01:07 AM
Quoteas everyone is probably aware by now im a neutral (forest fan) but i love football, especially the premier league, as most people do, but even though fergie, mourinho, etc etc have their faults, Wenger is an absolute w**ker.

Is that not a paradox?

Wenger suffers from a refusal to be critical of his team in public (All managers do it but somehow this is used as a constant stick to beat him with) but is honest on every other question and has an opinion on everything so the media love him because he's a rent a quote and he's foreign the anti-little englander.

Wenger was very similar to Fergie in that both were consumed by winning and both had philosophies of attractive high tempo football, they have taken different paths in recent years with Fergie it's now just about the winning (driven more by the greedy owners) and now his team is essentially a long ball side with no guile in midfield apart from an aging Scholes and Giggs but it's effective as he has instilled a fantastic work-rate in aveage footballers such as Fletcher, Anderson, Carrick and Park etc and they have this belief because they play for Man United, all great sporting cultures have that belief, something money can't buy.

With Wenger it now seems to be more winning in the right way (is there such a thing?) and his project is a thing of beauty in full flow and when you consider the economics behind it truly amazing but when it goes wrong such as yesterday Wenger and his supporters will roll out the excuses and refuse to accept that perhaps they're other uglier ways to winning and that rather than blame a perhaps flawed philosophy and a mental fragiliity which is perhaps due more to the age profile that anything else (I think last season Arsenal threw away 2 goal leads against Villa, West Ham and Wigan).

It galls me to see Mourhinho mentioned in the same breath as  Wenger and Fergie, those two have created legacies, if they were women they would be marriage material, Mourhino looks good and would be a a bit of fun for a couple of years but with him on your arm you'd lose yoiur friends and family and once you broke up you'd just stumble from bad relationship to bad relationship and eventually hit the bottle and die a lonely man...

Good post Dinny.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 07, 2011, 10:57:57 AM
Quote from: new devil on February 07, 2011, 06:24:23 AM
What was the name of the trophy that Arsenal won for going the season unbeaten?? I've looked everywhere online and can't find it  ???

Is that a serious question?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on February 07, 2011, 01:53:08 PM

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder of course and i for one have got to the stage where i can't look at arsenal for a 90 min game. that tippy tappy shite where noone is allowed to tackle does my head in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on February 07, 2011, 02:50:56 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on February 07, 2011, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 06, 2011, 09:01:07 AM
Quoteas everyone is probably aware by now im a neutral (forest fan) but i love football, especially the premier league, as most people do, but even though fergie, mourinho, etc etc have their faults, Wenger is an absolute w**ker.

Is that not a paradox?

Wenger suffers from a refusal to be critical of his team in public (All managers do it but somehow this is used as a constant stick to beat him with) but is honest on every other question and has an opinion on everything so the media love him because he's a rent a quote and he's foreign the anti-little englander.

Wenger was very similar to Fergie in that both were consumed by winning and both had philosophies of attractive high tempo football, they have taken different paths in recent years with Fergie it's now just about the winning (driven more by the greedy owners) and now his team is essentially a long ball side with no guile in midfield apart from an aging Scholes and Giggs but it's effective as he has instilled a fantastic work-rate in aveage footballers such as Fletcher, Anderson, Carrick and Park etc and they have this belief because they play for Man United, all great sporting cultures have that belief, something money can't buy.

With Wenger it now seems to be more winning in the right way (is there such a thing?) and his project is a thing of beauty in full flow and when you consider the economics behind it truly amazing but when it goes wrong such as yesterday Wenger and his supporters will roll out the excuses and refuse to accept that perhaps they're other uglier ways to winning and that rather than blame a perhaps flawed philosophy and a mental fragiliity which is perhaps due more to the age profile that anything else (I think last season Arsenal threw away 2 goal leads against Villa, West Ham and Wigan).

It galls me to see Mourhinho mentioned in the same breath as  Wenger and Fergie, those two have created legacies, if they were women they would be marriage material, Mourhino looks good and would be a a bit of fun for a couple of years but with him on your arm you'd lose yoiur friends and family and once you broke up you'd just stumble from bad relationship to bad relationship and eventually hit the bottle and die a lonely man...

Good post Dinny.  ;)

Good post indeed I meant to comment on it yesterday.. The only thing I'd really challenge is the notion that Fergies given up his principles of playing high tempo attractive football, maybe its the other way round maybe Wengers sacrificed his principles of winning for the idea of playing the beautiful game. Fergusons a realist and at the minute sends out his teams to play a certain way because hes hamstung with the players he has at his disposal or can buy. They aren't the prettiest United team of all time but they are damn effective and are far from the long ball team you suggest.  All the players you mention as being average were integral parts of a squad that appeareed in a couple of CL finals only a couple of years ago and wth the addition of 1-2 top drawer players United could be back playing their trademark football.

All teams can lose matches as United proved on Sat but in my honest opinion no Ferguson team would have surrendered the lead Arsenal did on Saturday so Maybe Wenger needs to be more of a realist sometimes too.

You are spot on re Mourinho but as I think its written in the stars that he's gonna be next United manager I'm ready for an affair with him
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 07, 2011, 03:35:44 PM
Bocey, like many Man U fans you are not seeing the wood for the tress, Man U this season just by-pass midfield (euphenism for long-ball) and it's probably one the reasons Rooney is suffering the quote below is from Football365 this morning talking about the Wolves game, so at least I'm alone in my madness in saying this and he's been kind in saying rarely seen it's how they have played away all season and definitely at home against Arsenal

QuoteHis absence also brought into sharper focus the the glaring absence of creativity in midfield. Ponderous from the outset and no better after the introduction of Paul Scholes, United didn't even try to disguise their disfigurement and spent the final 70 minutes hitting the ball from cumbersome defence towards indifferent attack with no thought other than hope. It was the ultimate damnation and an ugly, rarely-seen side of United, a club that has built its reputation on an attacking brand of football.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 07, 2011, 03:44:25 PM
TBH that quote is a load of BS when most team's are losing a game with 15mins to go they throw the tactics they had out the window

Most use the big centre back as a extra striker & knock up the high ball in a hit & hope

rarely-seen side of United my arse! have been doing it for years
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on February 07, 2011, 06:05:03 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 07, 2011, 03:35:44 PM
Bocey, like many Man U fans you are not seeing the wood for the tress, Man U this season just by-pass midfield (euphenism for long-ball) and it's probably one the reasons Rooney is suffering the quote below is from Football365 this morning talking about the Wolves game, so at least I'm alone in my madness in saying this and he's been kind in saying rarely seen it's how they have played away all season and definitely at home against Arsenal

QuoteHis absence also brought into sharper focus the the glaring absence of creativity in midfield. Ponderous from the outset and no better after the introduction of Paul Scholes, United didn't even try to disguise their disfigurement and spent the final 70 minutes hitting the ball from cumbersome defence towards indifferent attack with no thought other than hope. It was the ultimate damnation and an ugly, rarely-seen side of United, a club that has built its reputation on an attacking brand of football.

Quoting Football365 hardly helps your argument.. I look at it every day and enjoy it thoroughly but don't take anything I read too seriously (a bit like this forum)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 08, 2011, 02:01:08 PM
I thnik you're been dismissive of Football365 as it doesn't fit your arguement, I referenced it because it made the same observation less than 24hours after my own post and it was somewhat reaffriming, Man United are very much akin to the Emperors new clothes at the moment, just becuase it's Manchester United does not mean it's nice to watch. Damining statistic of the week, Michael Carrick has neither scored or assisted an EPL goal all season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 08, 2011, 02:36:34 PM
I see Bendtner in the paper justifying his 50k a week wages, this lad really is great craic!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 08, 2011, 02:53:08 PM
He's worth 5 times that amount, superb player
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on February 08, 2011, 03:02:41 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 08, 2011, 02:01:08 PM
I thnik you're been dismissive of Football365 as it doesn't fit your arguement, I referenced it because it made the same observation less than 24hours after my own post and it was somewhat reaffriming, Man United are very much akin to the Emperors new clothes at the moment, just becuase it's Manchester United does not mean it's nice to watch. Damining statistic of the week, Michael Carrick has neither scored or assisted an EPL goal all season.

I'm dismissing F365 because its the internet equivalent of the tabloid newspapers, every article etc they publish is designed to provoke a reaction. All day long yesterday the headline was something about Torres being a "flop" after one fecking game. On looking at the quote again I would agree with everything your man says but maybe just maybe he was talking about the game on Saturday "It was the ultimate damnation and an ugly, rarely-seen side of United"

Anyway it wasn't the point I was making, suppose you are right and United are a long ball team THIS SEASON, Fergusons a realist and must feel that it the best way to remain competitive in the short term. In 05-06 United played some of the most turgid uninspiring shite I've ever seen but out of that came a team that won 3 leagues and played in 2 CL finals. Wenger on the other hand (commendably or foolishly depending on your point of view) seems to have sacrificed winning for the beautiful game so maybe its him thats changed his principles not Ferguson? The other day I used Fergusons United as an example of a team that wouldn't have surrendered a 4-0 lead I could also have used Wengers Invincibles....

On Carrick, I wouldn't be the forums resident stat expert but as Uniteds holding/destructive midfielder you would hardly expect much more from him..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 08, 2011, 03:48:23 PM
QuoteOn Carrick, I wouldn't be the forums resident stat expert but as Uniteds holding/destructive midfielder you would hardly expect much more from him..

Destructive midfielder - Carrick?? Scholes since August has had two assists, Anderson, 2 and Fletcher 5 - so 9 assists from the Man United midfield. Fabrgeas has the same amount in considerable less games, Man United lack creativity in midfield so to counter this they either hit the ball in wide from the wings or deep from defence, it's effective but not pretty in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 08, 2011, 05:10:06 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 08, 2011, 03:48:23 PM
QuoteOn Carrick, I wouldn't be the forums resident stat expert but as Uniteds holding/destructive midfielder you would hardly expect much more from him..

Destructive midfielder - Carrick?? Scholes since August has had two assists, Anderson, 2 and Fletcher 5 - so 9 assists from the Man United midfield. Fabrgeas has the same amount in considerable less games, Man United lack creativity in midfield so to counter this they either hit the ball in wide from the wings or deep from defence, it's effective but not pretty in my opinion.

Using Carrick to suit your argument (a guy that has played the sweeper role all season passing backwards) if you want to compare him with someone try Denilson or Diaby & long ball teams don't use the wings.

As for the wings..without the need of stats anyone that has watched united this season will know the like's of Giggs,Park & Nani have been three of the most creative players this season

But i can't end without a stat...United's lack of creativity in midfield 55 goals v Arsenal loads of creativity in midfield 54 goals.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on February 08, 2011, 05:15:24 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 08, 2011, 03:48:23 PM
QuoteOn Carrick, I wouldn't be the forums resident stat expert but as Uniteds holding/destructive midfielder you would hardly expect much more from him..

Destructive midfielder - Carrick?? Scholes since August has had two assists, Anderson, 2 and Fletcher 5 - so 9 assists from the Man United midfield. Fabrgeas has the same amount in considerable less games, Man United lack creativity in midfield so to counter this they either hit the ball in wide from the wings or deep from defence, it's effective but not pretty in my opinion.

I give up mate, you are beginning to remind me of my woman. We're not even debating the same point..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 08, 2011, 06:37:45 PM
Bocey I know your point, Fegruson is a pragmatist and out of pragmatism something beautiful might be born whereas now Wenger is a romantic who is now lost in delusion, Wenger might be delusional but I admire him for it, we have to have pur dreams. The premiership would be very boring without him. And I agree no Ferguson team would ever give up a 4 goal lead but then no professional football team should, alas then you have Arsenal..

But if Man United don't win anything will the ugly football have been worth it...

Also anyone ever feel they have a stalker? You know when a person keeps addressing you and responding to your posts even though you don't like to entertain their myopia and have them on mental ignore...


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 08, 2011, 07:00:10 PM
You can ignore me all you like Dinny as the saying goes.. keep your words soft & sweet as you may have to eat them  :-*
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 15, 2011, 01:54:18 PM
So Arsenal's main man this season Nasri is Back for the Barca game on Wed! do you gooners fans think you can do better than last season & take a lead to the Camp Nou?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on February 15, 2011, 11:12:33 PM
Only chance of beating Barca is a radical overhaul of how Arsenal play.

5 in midfield with Nasri ( if fit) and Walcott sitting deep and playing on the break with Van Persie up front and Fabregas, Song and Wilshere holding the centre.

Teams that have beaten Barca such as Inter and Utd a few years ago have packed their defence and played on break. Eto was virtually playing right back last season.

You would fear if Arsenal go toe to toe with Barca there will only be 1 winner.
Title: Wenger on the brink of another great signing?
Post by: muppet on February 16, 2011, 02:11:25 AM
Great prospect trains with Arsenal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbnCFFEckh4&feature=rec-LGOUT-real_rn-3r-43-HM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbnCFFEckh4&feature=rec-LGOUT-real_rn-3r-43-HM)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 11:19:49 AM
I'd rather Arsenal go toe-toe-toe.

Last year Barca blitzed Arsenal in the first half without scoring. What stood out most was their workrate off the ball. As soon as an Arsenal player got possession, they were hounded and then the carousel started all over again. Their two goals were fairly uncharacteristic Barca goals. Messi was substituted as well. Arsenal weren't that far away in the first leg. Walcott fairly exposed their defence for the 20 mins he was on the field and did the same in the second leg. Strangely they found Bendtner hard to contain. He set up both goals in the first leg and scored in the second. This time Arsenal have an in-form RVP and a much fitter Fabregas. There's also the unpredictability of Arshavin.

In the second leg, this was the Arsenal team - Almunia, Sagna, Vermal, Silvestre, Clichy, Diaby, Rosicky, Nasri, Walcott, Bendtner, Denilson. That's not a great side to take to Barcelona. Even at that, they went 1-0 up, should've made it two and were only breached by Messi alone (albeit 4 times). Bendtner also missed 2 sitters in the second half.

I think that if Arsenal can match Barca's workrate, they can give them bother with their style of football. I say go toe-to-toe at home and see how far Barca are ahead. I'd hate to think Wenger would set his side out to defend for 180 mins a la Mourinho or Ferguson. They need to use Walcott effectively though. Make room for Theo and you never know. It'll be enjoyable to watch, sort of pressure-free given Barca's status.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 16, 2011, 11:32:26 AM
I think Arsenal will go for it and can see the Goons leading 2-0 but Barca will get an away goal so will probably finish 2-1. Barca are vulnerable after putting so much effort into their La Liga winning run so a good time to play them I think.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 11:53:45 AM
Dinny, definitely think Arsenal have to attempt to put them on the back foot, simply because you don't trust the Arsenal defence to track or intercept those through balls. Need Song and Wilshere to work their balls off in front of the defence, harassing Messi, Xavi, Iniesta and Pedro.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 12:04:22 PM
Who do you think is the bigger loss - Puyol for Barca or Sagna for Arsenal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 16, 2011, 12:24:38 PM
Puyol for Barca, I think Arsenal can cover Sagna, Eboue when he maintains his defensive responsiblities and doesn't try and get forward at every opportunity is a good full back and will annoy the Barca players, but with Eboue playing it's important Walcott starts because Walcott this season is working really hard in tracking back. Barca losing Puyol is the equivilent of Man U losing Vidic, he's a stopper who played really well against the Arse last year. Who's the likely replacement for him?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 12:44:52 PM
I think they'll play Abidal at CB and bring in Maxwell, the fella Theo tortured.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 16, 2011, 12:45:58 PM
I like that..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 02:59:31 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 12:04:22 PM
Who do you think is the bigger loss - Puyol for Barca or Sagna for Arsenal?

With Iniesta,Xavi playing keep ball it's difficult to exploit there defence whoever is playing while it's vital to have two good full back's when playing Barca

Diaby will be missed who will do the holding role tonight?

I expect wenger will pick this midfield five tonight Nasri,Song,Fàbregas, Wilshere & Walcott meaning alot of responsibility on the shoulders of 19 year old.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 07:15:03 PM
Arsenal: Szczesny, Eboue, Koscielny, Djourou, Clichy, Song, Wilshere, Walcott, Fabregas, Nasri, van Persie.
Subs: Almunia, Rosicky, Denilson, Squillaci, Arshavin, Gibbs, Bendtner.

Barcelona: Valdes, Dani Alves, Pique, Abidal, Maxwell, Xavi, Busquets, Iniesta, Pedro, Messi, Villa.
Subs: Pinto, Bojan, Mascherano, Keita, Milito, Afellay, Adriano Correia.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hassletravel on February 16, 2011, 07:17:19 PM
No chammak on bench, strange
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 08:01:26 PM
Messi is human afterall
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2011, 08:10:51 PM
If i was a manager I'd have Song off before he gets sent off
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 08:15:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2011, 08:10:51 PM
If i was a manager I'd have Song off before he gets sent off

3rd Song foul in 5 mins. Does he realize he's on a yellow?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2011, 08:17:55 PM
How many passes was that? 30?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballinaman on February 16, 2011, 08:33:37 PM
Arsenal are a bankrupt man's barcelona.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 08:34:03 PM
Fairly happy. Need to bring Nasri into the game somehow. Wilshere playing a clinker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 08:35:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2011, 08:17:55 PM
How many passes was that? 30?

That happened twice and they ended hitting it back to Abidal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 16, 2011, 08:38:23 PM
Still in with a shout, its not like we had not our chances. On a bright note the stout is flowing nicely.  Hard to beat watching footie with my son.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 16, 2011, 08:39:00 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 16, 2011, 08:33:37 PM
Arsenal are a bankrupt man's barcelona.

concerning Barca's debts that's pretty ironic..

Goons need to take one of their chances, Barca really exploiting Clichy who is getting no help from Nasri.

I'd actually take off Nasri and send on Bendtner at least he'll track Alves.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 08:44:05 PM
Nasri needs to be in a central position but that can't be done with Cesc and RVP clogging it up. You're right about Bendtner. He probably thinks he'll be auditioning for Barca.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballinaman on February 16, 2011, 08:44:21 PM
True that Dinny :D. Barcelonas passing is sensational. I fancy Arsenal to score on the break this half but stopping Barcelona scoring again is the kicker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 08:45:18 PM
If the linesman did his job right Barca would be leading 2-0 at HT
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2011, 08:51:58 PM
I backed 3-1 Arsenal. still in with a shout, but i'm not confident here
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 08:53:06 PM
Song off surely for Denilson. Song's important but 10 men will mean crucifixion.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 16, 2011, 08:55:34 PM
Fab to score and gooners to win , myself
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 16, 2011, 08:58:37 PM
Van Persie is having a complete stinker!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 09:05:08 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on February 16, 2011, 08:58:37 PM
Van Persie is having a complete stinker!

Yep, though still getting into good positions.

Can see Arshavin and Bender on soon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 16, 2011, 09:09:16 PM
Lucky for Arsenal that Messi couldn't finish his dinner tonight or the tie would be over by now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 09:12:19 PM
Absolutely love Barca's attitude - when they lose possession, they take it personally and set about the opposition like demons. Serious energy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 16, 2011, 09:15:51 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 09:12:19 PM
Absolutely love Barca's attitude - when they lose possession, they take it personally and set about the opposition like demons. Serious energy.

Was just about to post that myself O'Neill. The great teams understand that you have to work hard to get the ball back, and then you try to let your own quality come to the fore. I think Arsenal are happy to let the ball come back to them because they are so used to that working in the Premier League. They don't need to work as hard to get it back.

Whoever said Arsenal are a bankrupt man's Barcelona is being needlessly harsh. They are not a million miles away, and if they could introduce the same steel as Barcelona have, they'd be very similar in style at least. They are already similar when they have the ball.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2011, 09:17:33 PM
Arsenal have done rightly so far and could still steal a draw as it stands.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: John Martin on February 16, 2011, 09:19:55 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on February 16, 2011, 08:58:37 PM
Van Persie is having a complete stinker!

Commentators curse. 1-1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 09:20:35 PM
Can't say arse didn't deserve that for the 2nd half play but awful goalkeeping
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2011, 09:24:24 PM
one more and i've got a few quid coming to me ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 09:24:49 PM
Classic break away goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 16, 2011, 09:25:26 PM
Wahoooooooo!

If that was Barca everyone would rave about it but who cares.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballinaman on February 16, 2011, 09:25:58 PM
some goal!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 09:28:07 PM
Barca on the ropes! arse need to find that knock out punch...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 16, 2011, 09:28:51 PM
All set up for a moment of brilliance from messi!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 16, 2011, 09:29:22 PM
I love the finish from Arshavin. I think it's a real sign of cleverness and control when they just sidefoot the ball into the net from 10 -15 yards out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on February 16, 2011, 09:31:02 PM
Great finish alright az but the build up was class as well. Fair dues to Arsenal. Some game. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 16, 2011, 09:33:04 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 16, 2011, 09:09:16 PM
Lucky for Arsenal that Messi couldn't finish his dinner tonight or the tie would be over by now.

Arsenal 8 shots on target, 3 off target
Barca 6 shots on target, 3 off target

Just keepin' it real like.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 16, 2011, 09:33:54 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 16, 2011, 11:32:26 AM
I think Arsenal will go for it and can see the Goons leading 2-0 but Barca will get an away goal so will probably finish 2-1. Barca are vulnerable after putting so much effort into their La Liga winning run so a good time to play them I think.

You got the order of the goals wrong (that would be massive odds) but good call on the score.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: All of a Sludden on February 16, 2011, 09:35:34 PM
Great result, great second half.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 09:37:26 PM
Barcelona changed their tactics at HT sat back,took Villa off & were rubbish in that 2nd half. 2-1 about right i feel.

Had money on Arsenal to win so a good night's work for me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2011, 09:37:42 PM
Well done Arsenal, should be some away game. give me 6 minutes of a chance for £70 quid
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 16, 2011, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on February 16, 2011, 09:33:04 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 16, 2011, 09:09:16 PM
Lucky for Arsenal that Messi couldn't finish his dinner tonight or the tie would be over by now.

Arsenal 8 shots on target, 3 off target
Barca 6 shots on target, 3 off target

Just keepin' it real like.

Not sure what the relevance is?

You can have a shot on target from 35 yards that isn't likely to go in or you can have a one on one with the goalkeeper which should be scored. Messi in particular missed some clear cut chances and was very wasteful.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 16, 2011, 09:39:54 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 16, 2011, 09:37:42 PM
Well done Arsenal, should be some away game. give me 6 minutes of a chance for £70 quid

You'd have to feel Arsenal can score over in Catalunya. I think Barca will have to score 3 to go through.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on February 16, 2011, 09:40:32 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 09:37:26 PM
Barcelona changed their tactics at HT sat back,took Villa off & were rubbish in that 2nd half. 2-1 about right i feel.

Had money on Arsenal to win so a good night's work for me.

Don't believe you !
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 16, 2011, 09:42:16 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 16, 2011, 09:33:54 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 16, 2011, 11:32:26 AM
I think Arsenal will go for it and can see the Goons leading 2-0 but Barca will get an away goal so will probably finish 2-1. Barca are vulnerable after putting so much effort into their La Liga winning run so a good time to play them I think.

You got the order of the goals wrong (that would be massive odds) but good call on the score.

I watched them Sat night and they worked really hard against Sport Gijon to try and maintain their winning run so thought the Arse had a good chance, superb 2nd goal.

This win will give Arsenal real belief and I think they'll go very close in the EPL, Barca will go through but a great result for Arsenal in the long term.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerrykeegan on February 16, 2011, 09:42:38 PM
The lad who works work me stuck 5 on the spurs arsenal double,i told him he was fool. Pays over 90. Who is the fool now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on February 16, 2011, 09:44:27 PM
Jack Wilshere was the best player on the park. Complacency was definitely the problem for Barcelona, only Guardiola knows why David Villa came off...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 16, 2011, 09:45:08 PM
Jaysus Giles and Dunphy talk some bollox sound bitter that Arsenal won so they can't stick the knife into Wenger..

And I say Ronnie Whelan is some craic on the beer..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on February 16, 2011, 09:48:20 PM
Arsenal have a serious side - amazing.

To beat Barca in that fashion was incredible.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 16, 2011, 09:49:06 PM
Quote from: paco on February 16, 2011, 09:44:27 PM
Jack Wilshere was the best player on the park. Complacency was definitely the problem for Barcelona, only Guardiola knows why David Villa came off...

They were very casual in the 2nd half. Probbaly got a bit cocky and thought they could cruise to the end of the game. Guess it's easy to be cocky when you're as good as they are. Missed a few chances and left the door open and fair play to Arsenal they took advantage.

Set up nicely for the 2nd leg but you'd still have to fancy Barca. They do have an away goal and Messi is unlikely to be so profligate next time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on February 16, 2011, 09:49:29 PM
Well done to the Gunners. Really enjoyed that and have to agree about Wilshere, class act! Arshavins finish was something else!
Going to be interesting now with Barca having to come out looking goals.  Arsenal have the perfect players to kill them on the break.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on February 16, 2011, 09:52:20 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 09:37:26 PM
Barcelona changed their tactics at HT sat back,took Villa off & were rubbish in that 2nd half. 2-1 about right i feel.

Had money on Arsenal to win so a good night's work for me.

You're trying too hard to get into these boys good books..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 09:54:00 PM
f**king yeah.

That is all.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on February 16, 2011, 09:54:37 PM
The past few games should be a good kick up the back side for Pep, in case he needed it. Credit to Arsenal though, great atmosphere with the crowd really getting behind them and they deserved to win. A bit lucky though with a possible penalty shout at the end? Set up brilliantly for the second leg anyway.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerrykeegan on February 16, 2011, 09:57:24 PM
Was it a bit strange to see arshavin going off down the tunnell as the rest of the arsenal lads congratulated each other.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballinaman on February 16, 2011, 10:04:51 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on February 16, 2011, 09:57:24 PM
Was it a bit strange to see arshavin going off down the tunnell as the rest of the arsenal lads congratulated each other.
No, he's russian. Therefore he is a bit strange himself
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 10:05:36 PM
Quote from: Boycey on February 16, 2011, 09:52:20 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 09:37:26 PM
Barcelona changed their tactics at HT sat back,took Villa off & were rubbish in that 2nd half. 2-1 about right i feel.

Had money on Arsenal to win so a good night's work for me.

You're trying too hard to get into these boys good books..

My honest opinion on the game not trying to get into any one's good books whatever that means?

Also i have gone on record.. if Arsenal win the 1st leg there will win the tie not sure is a 2-1 lead enough but we'll see.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 16, 2011, 10:17:11 PM
Good result. Thought Wilshire was excellent. I was also impressed by Kocilney (Spelling dodgey), which is something I never thought I'd hear myself say!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on February 16, 2011, 10:18:00 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 10:05:36 PM
Quote from: Boycey on February 16, 2011, 09:52:20 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 09:37:26 PM
Barcelona changed their tactics at HT sat back,took Villa off & were rubbish in that 2nd half. 2-1 about right i feel.

Had money on Arsenal to win so a good night's work for me.

You're trying too hard to get into these boys good books..

My honest opinion on the game not trying to get into any one's good books whatever that means?

Also i have gone on record.. if Arsenal win the 1st leg there will win the tie not sure is a 2-1 lead enough but we'll see.

So you are changing your mind?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: boojangles on February 16, 2011, 10:19:10 PM
Fair play Gunners. brilliant stuff. Wiltshire is some talent. What age is he??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on February 16, 2011, 10:20:03 PM
Quote from: boojangles on February 16, 2011, 10:19:10 PM
Fair play Gunners. brilliant stuff. Wiltshire is some talent. What age is he??

He's only 19 the wee f**ker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on February 16, 2011, 10:23:40 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 10:05:36 PM
Quote from: Boycey on February 16, 2011, 09:52:20 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 09:37:26 PM
Barcelona changed their tactics at HT sat back,took Villa off & were rubbish in that 2nd half. 2-1 about right i feel.

Had money on Arsenal to win so a good night's work for me.

You're trying too hard to get into these boys good books..

My honest opinion on the game not trying to get into any one's good books whatever that means?

Also i have gone on record.. if Arsenal win the 1st leg there will win the tie not sure is a 2-1 lead enough but we'll see.

Fair play to Arsenal they hung in there and when Barca switched off they took full advantage but I'd have to say that over the 90 mins 2-1 to Arsenal was hardly a fair reflection but hey that's why we love football.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Big Puff on February 16, 2011, 10:27:35 PM
Great finish from the Russian, but what was he at with the header/handball in the dying mins in his own box!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 10:32:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on February 16, 2011, 10:18:00 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 10:05:36 PM
Quote from: Boycey on February 16, 2011, 09:52:20 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 09:37:26 PM
Barcelona changed their tactics at HT sat back,took Villa off & were rubbish in that 2nd half. 2-1 about right i feel.

Had money on Arsenal to win so a good night's work for me.

You're trying too hard to get into these boys good books..

My honest opinion on the game not trying to get into any one's good books whatever that means?

Also i have gone on record.. if Arsenal win the 1st leg there will win the tie not sure is a 2-1 lead enough but we'll see.

So you are changing your mind?

I'm like one of those undecided voters at the moment & the return leg is not for three weeks so injuries could play a big part.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 16, 2011, 10:33:07 PM
Quote from: Big Puff on February 16, 2011, 10:27:35 PM
Great finish from the Russian, but what was he at with the header/handball in the dying mins in his own box!

I suspect he was told going on that Nasri wasn't tracking Alves so get after him. He probably will be relieved of tracking duty.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 10:33:52 PM
Great result. Arsenal deserved it. Can't remember any crucial Chesney saves. I thought Wilshere was the best player on the pitch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 16, 2011, 10:35:30 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 10:33:52 PM
Great result. Arsenal deserved it. Can't remember any crucial Chesney saves.

That's because Messi actually ended up putting them wide.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 16, 2011, 10:38:18 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on February 16, 2011, 10:35:30 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 10:33:52 PM
Great result. Arsenal deserved it. Can't remember any crucial Chesney saves.

That's because Messi actually ended up putting them wide.

I thought Chesney Hawkes did very well 1:1 with Messi, stayed very big schmeichel like, no VDS with the ball at his feet but a great prospect..

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgqc9eJCO51qz9e2ao1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 16, 2011, 11:03:12 PM
Quote from: paco on February 16, 2011, 09:44:27 PM
Jack Wilshere was the best player on the park. Complacency was definitely the problem for Barcelona, only Guardiola knows why David Villa came off...

100% agree with that.

He was incredible.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 11:07:34 PM
Wilshere completed 10 of 11 passes in the attacking third.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 16, 2011, 11:08:54 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 11:07:34 PM
Wilshere completed 10 of 11 passes in the attacking third.

Yea but how did he play tonight?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 16, 2011, 11:10:03 PM
Had a jab at Arsenal, Shakhtar and...Wigan treble! Greedy bastard! Well done Arsenal, still in the hunt for 4 trophies.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 11:12:14 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 16, 2011, 11:08:54 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 11:07:34 PM
Wilshere completed 10 of 11 passes in the attacking third.

Yea but how did he play tonight?

He was tremendous.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 16, 2011, 11:19:09 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 11:12:14 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 16, 2011, 11:08:54 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 11:07:34 PM
Wilshere completed 10 of 11 passes in the attacking third.

Yea but how did he play tonight?

He was tremendous.
Was the best player on the park tonight. Bar none.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 11:21:45 PM
In seven matches, Lionel Messi is yet to score a single goal in England & 120 passes Xavi made, 69 more passes than any Arsenal player (Fabregas, 51) on the pitch tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2011, 11:46:12 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 11:21:45 PM
In seven matches, Lionel Messi is yet to score a single goal in England & 120 passes Xavi made, 69 more passes than any Arsenal player (Fabregas, 51) on the pitch tonight.
Do you just read google (or substitute any statistical fotball web-site for google) and copy and paste?!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 11:50:57 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 11:21:45 PM
In seven matches, Lionel Messi is yet to score a single goal in England & 120 passes Xavi made, 69 more passes than any Arsenal player (Fabregas, 51) on the pitch tonight.

Gilberto used to have those figures too. He passed backwards as well.

Wenger fairly taught Mourinho and Fergie how to beat Barca the right way tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 17, 2011, 12:12:34 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 11:50:57 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 11:21:45 PM
In seven matches, Lionel Messi is yet to score a single goal in England & 120 passes Xavi made, 69 more passes than any Arsenal player (Fabregas, 51) on the pitch tonight.

Gilberto used to have those figures too. He passed backwards as well.

Wenger fairly taught Mourinho and Fergie how to beat Barca the right way tonight.

Only half time in the tie yet! Barca fan's on SSN said before the game "i don't care if we lose tonight as we'll win the return leg 5-0"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 17, 2011, 12:27:01 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 11:50:57 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 11:21:45 PM
In seven matches, Lionel Messi is yet to score a single goal in England & 120 passes Xavi made, 69 more passes than any Arsenal player (Fabregas, 51) on the pitch tonight.

Gilberto used to have those figures too. He passed backwards as well.

Wenger fairly taught Mourinho and Fergie how to beat Barca the right way tonight.


That's right. Sure José only put the 4 past them at the Bridge a few years back AND won it over two legs. Over to you Arsene.

Let's just hope Barce's biggest asset isn't back in a few weeks time!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: David McKeown on February 17, 2011, 12:37:17 AM
Talking about passing stats. When Barca played Real in Dec Only two players on the pitch had completed 100 passes in a game. Xavi and Xabi Alonoso whose only 100 pass game came against Barnsley. I think tonight was something like Xavi's 8th 100 pass game in 12 months.  As the modern game is soo much about possession I'm always surprised when he plays that well and still loses. Got to give credit to Arsenal for that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2011, 12:56:46 AM
He he. There's always 1 or 2 or maybe 3.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 17, 2011, 01:24:13 AM
Big Sam on twitter tonight  :D

Wonder if Theo Walcott and Jack Wilshere use the same spirit level to cut their hair.

Imagine a Rory Delap in this team. What takes this Xavi fella 14 passes to achieve, Rory does with one throw.

Pep Guardiola is wearing the fcuk out of that jumper. Simply gorgeous

What a battle awaits us tonight. There'll be style, skill & panache galore as two greats go head to head. Yep, the wife is giving me a ride.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2011, 07:53:43 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 17, 2011, 12:56:46 AM
He he. There's always 1 or 2 or maybe 3.

The same 1 or 2 though
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on February 17, 2011, 08:53:28 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 11:50:57 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 11:21:45 PM
In seven matches, Lionel Messi is yet to score a single goal in England & 120 passes Xavi made, 69 more passes than any Arsenal player (Fabregas, 51) on the pitch tonight.

Gilberto used to have those figures too. He passed backwards as well.

Wenger fairly taught Mourinho and Fergie how to beat Barca the right way tonight.

Both Mourinho and Fergie beat Barcelona properly - by winning the tie.  Lets see if Wenger can achieve this in a couple of weeks, I somehow don't think it will happen.  Two good goals from Arsenal but Arsenals defence is still to easily cut open, if it wasn't for a dodgy linesmans call Arsenal would be travelling with 2 away goals against them. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Declan on February 17, 2011, 09:06:30 AM
Great game and fair play to Arsenal for having the ability to take advantage of Barca's second half slump. Gooners opened well but then Barca took complete control and really should have been a couple up. On another night Kuschelny would have got red and a peno given and Song was a lucky boy considering he was on a yellow. Sets it up nicely for the second leg.
Wilsher will be some player as I thought he was outstanding last night against the best in the business.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 17, 2011, 09:43:21 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 17, 2011, 08:53:28 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 11:50:57 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 11:21:45 PM
In seven matches, Lionel Messi is yet to score a single goal in England & 120 passes Xavi made, 69 more passes than any Arsenal player (Fabregas, 51) on the pitch tonight.

Gilberto used to have those figures too. He passed backwards as well.

Wenger fairly taught Mourinho and Fergie how to beat Barca the right way tonight.

Both Mourinho and Fergie beat Barcelona properly - by winning the tie.  Lets see if Wenger can achieve this in a couple of weeks, I somehow don't think it will happen.  Two good goals from Arsenal but Arsenals defence is still to easily cut open, if it wasn't for a dodgy linesmans call Arsenal would be travelling with 2 away goals against them.

They fairly missed Overbo last night.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on February 17, 2011, 09:56:54 AM
couldn't watch the match last night but was listening to the boys on Newstalk discussing the 1st half while driving all they were going on about was how good Barcelona were, the gulf in class, men v's boys ect ect ect so i thought happy days the gunners are getting an afull hammering toninght  ;) couldn't believe my eyes when i got home to see that they has won 2-1  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2011, 10:08:48 AM
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8867/arsenalgk2.gif)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EagleLord on February 17, 2011, 10:25:20 AM
Seen that myself Oneill! I imagined something else though! :D
Heard the commentator last night say after they took the lead, 'Arsenal score a goal, the Barcelona way' it was either that or 'a Barcelona goal'..I dont remember! The point is the same though! Thats abit stupid calling it a Barcelona goal. Arsenal have played that kind of football for years. Barcelona arent f**king gods, every chance he got he was arse kissing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on February 17, 2011, 11:56:32 AM
(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2011/0216/lionelmessicrowdedvafc20110216_275x155.jpg)

Not hard to work out the defensive game plan last night :D

BBC sports reporter on bbc news this morning ''Arsenal passed Barca off the pitch'' :D

I still expect Barca will go through. 3-1 in return fixture but I really hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2011, 12:07:17 PM
In all honesty I expect Barca to beat them well in Spain. But it was a good night nonetheless and perhaps the highlight of the season. Orient will beat them on Sunday, lose on penalties in the Carling Cup final and finish below Spurs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: omagh_gael on February 17, 2011, 01:16:04 PM
Good man O'Neill. A pessimist never gets let down.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 17, 2011, 01:18:31 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 17, 2011, 01:16:04 PM
Good man O'Neill. A pessimist never gets let down.

I'd say that was a response to appease the schoolyard warriors above who support other clubs. It worked too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2011, 01:27:06 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 17, 2011, 01:18:31 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 17, 2011, 01:16:04 PM
Good man O'Neill. A pessimist never gets let down.

I'd say that was a response to appease the schoolyard warriors above who support other clubs. It worked too.

Amazing how after all these years people still don't get this thread  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on February 17, 2011, 02:31:22 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 17, 2011, 11:56:32 AM
(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2011/0216/lionelmessicrowdedvafc20110216_275x155.jpg)

Not hard to work out the defensive game plan last night :D


They could almost be mistaken for Tyrone footballers in that picture..apart from the black fellas of course

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m266/laoislad/0001bae1189r.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: omagh_gael on February 17, 2011, 04:02:16 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 17, 2011, 01:18:31 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on February 17, 2011, 01:16:04 PM
Good man O'Neill. A pessimist never gets let down.

I'd say that was a response to appease the schoolyard warriors above who support other clubs. It worked too.

I suppose I should have put a smiley face at the end of that as I was messing. Soccer just doesn't appeal to me that much anymore. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 17, 2011, 05:28:59 PM
Sometimes you take yourselves too seriously in this thread...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 17, 2011, 05:39:44 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 17, 2011, 09:43:21 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 17, 2011, 08:53:28 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 16, 2011, 11:50:57 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 16, 2011, 11:21:45 PM
In seven matches, Lionel Messi is yet to score a single goal in England & 120 passes Xavi made, 69 more passes than any Arsenal player (Fabregas, 51) on the pitch tonight.

Gilberto used to have those figures too. He passed backwards as well.

Wenger fairly taught Mourinho and Fergie how to beat Barca the right way tonight.

Both Mourinho and Fergie beat Barcelona properly - by winning the tie.  Lets see if Wenger can achieve this in a couple of weeks, I somehow don't think it will happen.  Two good goals from Arsenal but Arsenals defence is still to easily cut open, if it wasn't for a dodgy linesmans call Arsenal would be travelling with 2 away goals against them.

They fairly missed Overbo last night.

Barca have been paying big time for all those decisions they got vs Chelsea at The Bridge.

Away at Inter last season and last night.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 17, 2011, 10:36:57 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 17, 2011, 05:28:59 PM
Sometimes you take yourselves too seriously in this thread...

You take us too seriously.......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on February 18, 2011, 12:01:31 AM
Great game last night. Arsenal deserved at least a draw but to win gives them a reasonable chance in the away leg. Can definitely see Arsenal scoring over there.

Really impressed with Wilshere.Have saw him a few times and thought he played too may safe square passes but he was brilliant last night. Taking the ball out of tight situations and always making himself available.

With the Carling cup final comng up, Arsenal are now in the hunt for 4 trophies at the minute.Is there a danger they could overstretch themselves?

United will drop more points but Arsenal cannot afford to drop too many more to be in with a chance of the league.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 18, 2011, 12:02:46 AM
Quote from: muppet on February 17, 2011, 10:36:57 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 17, 2011, 05:28:59 PM
Sometimes you take yourselves too seriously in this thread...

You take us too seriously.......

....about to say the same!

Was browsing a few Barca forums and the criticism is something savage. Whereas we thought they were a delight to watch, their fans were scathing of Messi's selfishness and the substitutions. The general consensus was that the team is tired and their style of play (pressing when not in possession) sees them wilt after an hour.

I remember thinking a couple of weeks ago that Guardiola seems to play his strongest side in every game in all competitions.

However, they all think it'll be OK at the Camp.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 18, 2011, 12:04:16 AM
Quote from: Orangemac on February 18, 2011, 12:01:31 AM
Great game last night. Arsenal deserved at least a draw but to win gives them a reasonable chance in the away leg. Can definitely see Arsenal scoring over there.

Really impressed with Wilshere.Have saw him a few times and thought he played too may safe square passes but he was brilliant last night. Taking the ball out of tight situations and always making himself available.

With the Carling cup final comng up, Arsenal are now in the hunt for 4 trophies at the minute.Is there a danger they could overstretch themselves?

United will drop more points but Arsenal cannot afford to drop too many more to be in with a chance of the league.

A French station did a little collage of Wilshere's best plays - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXPmXaW60C0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on February 18, 2011, 09:16:51 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on February 17, 2011, 02:31:22 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 17, 2011, 11:56:32 AM
(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/images/2011/0216/lionelmessicrowdedvafc20110216_275x155.jpg)

Not hard to work out the defensive game plan last night :D


They could almost be mistaken for Tyrone footballers in that picture..apart from the black fellas of course

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m266/laoislad/0001bae1189r.jpg)

Good comparison alright LL. Both extremely effective on the day. Tyrone's led to the end product that year, will Arsenal's?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on February 20, 2011, 12:55:25 AM
Will Johann Cryuff accuse Arsenal of "puke football" if they go through? :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on February 20, 2011, 01:39:54 AM
Quote from: Orangemac on February 20, 2011, 12:55:25 AM
Will Johann Cryuff accuse Arsenal of "puke football" if they go through? :D

And why would he do that?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 20, 2011, 12:39:28 PM
The young lad- Kyle Bartley- on loan @ Rangers is doing himself no favours in todays derby.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 20, 2011, 04:08:23 PM
utd it is then
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 20, 2011, 06:26:00 PM
The O's on their way to Vegas then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 20, 2011, 06:31:02 PM
Sorta glad to see these draws. Keeps the second string happy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 20, 2011, 06:49:37 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 20, 2011, 06:31:02 PM
Sorta glad to see these draws. Keeps the second string happy.

wierd just made the same comment to a friend..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: downtown on February 23, 2011, 06:52:52 PM
anyone know a good stream to watch the game online tonight?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on February 23, 2011, 07:09:13 PM
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/wed23.2/Arsenal_Stoke.php

Download Sopcast and away you go.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: downtown on February 23, 2011, 07:14:13 PM
gud man, cheers
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2011, 08:06:06 PM
1-0 up but fcuk sake, Cesc injured.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 23, 2011, 08:19:51 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 23, 2011, 08:06:06 PM
1-0 up but fcuk sake, Cesc injured.

What happened?

Hamstring?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 23, 2011, 08:22:28 PM
Not so good if fab and rvp missing for sunday
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 23, 2011, 08:24:33 PM
Jesus lads you have to beat those blue nose cnuts on sunday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2011, 08:29:44 PM
They think hamstring again. Feck sake.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 23, 2011, 08:51:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 23, 2011, 08:29:44 PM
They think hamstring again. Feck sake.

Taken off as a 'precaution'.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 23, 2011, 09:01:41 PM
 from  bbc   the reason Arsenal midfielder Cesc Fabregas went off (after 14 minutes) was a knee injury
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2011, 09:06:22 PM
Terrible this half. Stoke could score.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 23, 2011, 09:14:51 PM
wally now added to injury list
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2011, 09:15:04 PM
Walcott stretchered off. Disaster.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2011, 09:41:35 PM
Scrappy but did the job. Hopefully Cesc just a slight knock and Walcott was pretending cos he was having a shocker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 23, 2011, 09:46:02 PM
wally looked sore http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh69d1_stkwalcinjr255#from=embed (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh69d1_stkwalcinjr255#from=embed)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Big Puff on February 23, 2011, 09:49:03 PM
good result for the gooners in what was a potential banana skin
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2011, 10:27:47 PM
Walcott ankle sprain confirmed. Wenger: 'Definitely out for Sunday. Cesc has a hamstring problem, will be assessed tomorrow'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on February 24, 2011, 08:38:04 AM
Is Fabregas' injury problems turning more serious?  He seems to constantly be out of action, and it is usually his hamstring that is the problem.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 24, 2011, 02:14:05 PM
David Villa is convinced Barca will make the quarter finals.

"We will go through to the next round, I'm sure, because we were far superior in everything expept for the result at the Emirates, we just need to perform better in front of goal in the Camp Nou"

Wenger has a bit of dilemma on Sunday if Fabregas,VP are passed fit because playing them on a poor Wembley pitch before the Camp Nou return is high risk IMO
Title: Barcalona impressed by Wenger's transfer acumen.
Post by: muppet on February 24, 2011, 07:23:19 PM
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/246886359.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1298575726&Signature=2BY19nwQMkUY5PpYvUVcZrHTEPU%3D)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 24, 2011, 07:24:41 PM
Walcott will be a huge loss at the Nou Camp - especially with Pique out injured. Id have fancied him for an away goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on February 24, 2011, 10:08:36 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on February 24, 2011, 07:24:41 PM
Walcott will be a huge loss at the Nou Camp - especially with Pique out injured. Id have fancied him for an away goal.

Is he definitely out? What's the damage?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 24, 2011, 10:12:03 PM
Sprained ankle with the game 2 weeks away. There's no word yet - I was just talking in possibilities.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 24, 2011, 10:50:12 PM
Fabregas absent from the final on Sunday - big pity. I suppose Nasri will get the central role with hopefully Van Persie and Kochielny back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 25, 2011, 03:19:01 PM
Rvp to be the captain. Lets hope no more injuries
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 25, 2011, 10:43:58 PM
Just watched the 07 final with chelsea on espn. Can't see as many red cards this weekend
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 26, 2011, 11:24:28 AM
Schwarzer reveals his agony after missing out on Arsenal move


The Fulham goalkeeper Mark Schwarzer has admitted that he was devastated by the transfer window dealings which saw him refused a move to Arsenal. He said that Shay Given turned down a move to Craven Cottage to dash his hopes at the at the end of the summer.

Schwarzer said in today's Australian Daily Telegraph: "Mark Hughes and the staff made it absolutely clear that they wanted to keep me and would only let me leave if they found a keeper of equal standing at the very least.

"They only had one option [Given]. Unfortunately, the day before the window closed, he made himself unavailable.

"It was a huge letdown, I won't deny it, and it took me quite a while to get over things and get my head around it, get everything right, because my head was all over the pace."

"It was very difficult to take and people deal with it in different ways. But you try and hold it all together because you want your family to think you're on top of things. It was a very tough period for me."

This may have been a blessing in disguise for Arsenal, as Wojciech Szczesny has emerged from being third-choice at the Gunners to become an integral part of the team as they challenge for all four trophies this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 27, 2011, 04:09:25 PM
lucky not a penalty in the first minutes
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on February 27, 2011, 04:19:21 PM
Quote from: gerry on February 27, 2011, 04:09:25 PM
lucky not a penalty in the first minutes

PHEW !
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 27, 2011, 04:35:14 PM
Should be 3 down at this stage
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2011, 04:37:25 PM
& Szczesny should have been sent off
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2011, 04:40:29 PM
Out of the blue & gooners are level VP injured again?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on February 27, 2011, 04:44:14 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2011, 04:37:25 PM
& Szczesny should have been sent off

Just like Rooney yesterday
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 27, 2011, 05:00:29 PM
The bbc football experts at half time talk some shit
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 27, 2011, 05:32:01 PM
Now is your chance bent to put the talking behind you
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 27, 2011, 05:42:10 PM
If it goes to pens we are fecked
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 27, 2011, 05:51:59 PM
What a feck up
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2011, 05:56:25 PM
Well they don't win much so well done Birmingham..arse keeper will have nightmares after that!

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on February 27, 2011, 05:58:20 PM
What an absolute disaster. Same old problems that Wenger has never adressed properly.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Rocky Mc Guigan on February 27, 2011, 06:03:26 PM
Which wheel of the quad was that?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 27, 2011, 06:03:35 PM
Since Wenger has been in charge how many decent CHs has he brought in?

Gallas, Vermalen and ........ is that it?

Djourou isn't bad but far from a top class leader of men

Koschelny (sp).......pure dung
Squillachi......worse
Senderos............awful
and yr man who was finished at Man U beofre he even got to Asenal (can't rem his name)

A terrible blind spot and one which I reckon has cost Arsenal more trophies than enough
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Shrewdness on February 27, 2011, 06:05:48 PM
Can't see Arsenal being good enough to win the Champions League, so they will have to win the Premier League or FA Cup to end a trophy famine that has now lasted for almost 6 years.

Despite all Wenger's talk about how talented his young players are, and the stylish football they play, it's producing nothing.
Birmingham have won the Carling Cup, and a couple of season's ago, even Portsmouth won the FA Cup!!

Arsenal are winning nothing. If they don't win a trophy this season, how much longer before Wenger starts to come under a little bit of pressure from the powers that be at Arsenal.

Not taking anything away from Birmingham, but Arsenal have blown a great chance to win a trophy today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2011, 06:06:42 PM
Wasn't Szczesny taking the piss outta Cashley on Twitter last week? i think it's best that he stays off Twitter for a while.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 27, 2011, 06:16:04 PM
Well done to Birmingham, Arsenal tend to lose in clusters so expect another 2 defeats in the next 3 games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 27, 2011, 06:20:14 PM
Nice touch by Bowyer patting the Arsenal defender on the head during the celebrations. He was always a class act.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 27, 2011, 06:22:53 PM
Paul Merson is taking this defeat badly i think he'll hit the pub big time tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 27, 2011, 07:14:37 PM
Since Arsenal last won anything of note..................

Terry & Carvalho
Terry & Ivanovic
Ferdinanad & Vidic
Lucio & Samuel
Pique & Puyol
Maldini & Nesta

anyone see a pattern..............
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 27, 2011, 07:19:19 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on February 27, 2011, 07:14:37 PM
Since Arsenal last won anything of note..................

Terry & Carvalho
Terry & Ivanovic
Ferdinanad & Vidic
Lucio & Samuel
Pique & Puyol
Maldini & Nesta

anyone see a pattern..............

♬ The animals went in two by two, hurrah, hurrah ♬
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 27, 2011, 07:56:41 PM
so much for 4 trophies, they will be lucky to win one, that was their "cert"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 27, 2011, 07:57:43 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on February 27, 2011, 07:56:41 PM
so much for 4 trophies, they will be lucky to win one, that was their "cert"

T'was the blueshirts weekend.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on February 27, 2011, 08:25:29 PM
Thought Merson was a bit disingenuous in his comments after the match implying Arsenals centre back and goalkeeper weren't up to it because they weren't English?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on February 27, 2011, 08:55:51 PM
Quote from: Boycey on February 27, 2011, 08:25:29 PM
Thought Merson was a bit disingenuous in his comments after the match implying Arsenals centre back and goalkeeper weren't up to it because they weren't English?

Merson loves it, it is like a gentlemans club on a Saturday afternoon with those other tossers. He is actually starting to play on the fact that he is thick as pig shit and mispronouncing words to the whoops of delight of the others.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 27, 2011, 09:06:18 PM
Felt wrong from the start. Don't know whether it was the attitude of the players or nerves but I didn't see Arsenal winning this. Wilshere played well and had Persie not f**king injured himself afcukinggain from scoring he may have kicked on from that. But, Brum wanted it from Keeper to the big hoor. 

For me, this feels worse than Zaragoza95, Luton88, Liverpool01, Barcelona06 and it's a shitty trophy. It meant something more than just a trophy though and you suspect it signals a sharp change in fortunes over the next 4 weeks whereas Arsenal may have been primed to kick on from this.

Just balls.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on February 27, 2011, 10:58:24 PM
alot of gooners tweets about how sorry they are, as if that helps
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 27, 2011, 11:00:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2011, 06:06:42 PM
Wasn't Szczesny taking the piss outta Cashley on Twitter last week? i think it's best that he stays off Twitter for a while.

Was just reading hiw twitter page earleir. Some karma there for him!  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 27, 2011, 11:02:51 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 27, 2011, 11:00:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2011, 06:06:42 PM
Wasn't Szczesny taking the piss outta Cashley on Twitter last week? i think it's best that he stays off Twitter for a while.

Was just reading hiw twitter page earleir. Some karma there for him!  :D

Arsenal still in cup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 28, 2011, 12:59:58 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on February 27, 2011, 11:00:13 PM
Quote from: ross4life on February 27, 2011, 06:06:42 PM
Wasn't Szczesny taking the piss outta Cashley on Twitter last week? i think it's best that he stays off Twitter for a while.

Was just reading hiw twitter page earleir. Some karma there for him!  :D

(http://i54.tinypic.com/2zfkg3s.gif)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 28, 2011, 01:26:46 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 27, 2011, 06:20:14 PM
Nice touch by Bowyer patting the Arsenal defender on the head during the celebrations. He was always a class act.

It might of been Barry Ferguson.

No suprise there either.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2011, 01:32:06 PM
http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,495334/ (http://www.wsc.co.uk/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,73/func,view/catid,27/id,495334/)

'Twas as foul and base a spectacle as any conjured up by the poet Pope in The Dunciad, one which caused the nostrils of those of a properly Augustan sensibility to wrinkle with disdain, to watch the rank, blue-clad hordes spill out of Wembley stadium yestreen. The friction of knuckles against paving stones, the discernible motion in their trouser seats of hidden tails wagging furiously, the loud, collective mooing; one does not wish to descend into whimsical anthropomorphism by ascribing human emotions to these cattle but one could imagine that they were experiencing what we as sentient, thinking, feeling beings would call "joy". Evidently, in their bovine obtuseness, these sub-people had misinterpreted entirely yesterday's association football result and its ramifications.

Yes, the score read 1-2 (it as as well that there were no further goals as this would have confounded the numerical capability of the average West Midlander) but this fails to take into account a raft of exquisite, aesthetic intangibles, beyond the ken of a mere scoreboard. What of poise? Deportment? Grace? Elan? Panache?

To descend into the linguistic cesspit that is the element of the "Brummie", here is what they imagined to have occurred upon the football field yesterday. "Weeaoow put the ball more toimes than thiy did in the nit, loike – and at the end, we got a coop." Ah yes, the Carling Cup – had the game resolved itself in such a way that this trophy had been presented to Arsenal, then in the unlikely event that our players had accepted the trophy, M Wenger would have marched furiously onto the pitch and prevented the exchange, in the manner of Sir Alfred Ramsey intervening physically in 1966 to stop an English player from swapping his shirt with his Argentinean counterpart.

Arsenal do not play football purely out of some base, banal, magpie-like desire for the acquisition of cheap and vulgar baubles, sponsored by the brewers of urinal alcoholic products. Does one imagine, for example, that Da Vinci was motivated to paint purely in the hope that he might one day be awarded the Luigi's Grog Pot? He did not; he painted for the betterment of men, and so that such men, in being bettered thus could know that they were better than other men.

So it is with Arsenal. Once again, the troglodytes could be heard to bray, "WHY DOESN'T ONE OF THEM SHOOT? JUST FOR f**king ONCE, ONE OF YOU MINCING LITTLE f**king BANTAMWEIGHTS JUST PUT YOUR f**king FOOT THROUGH IT RATHER THAN LOOKING TO LAY IT BACK TO BACARY f**king SAGNA WHEN YOU'VE A f**king OPEN GOAL GAPING UP IN FRONT OF YOU!"

All of which is to miss the point. Many a time in training some raw swain from the youth team is invited to play in a session with the masters of the first eleven – and, with his impetuosity having got the better of him, he is liable, upon receipt of the ball six or seven yards out, to let fly and blast it in into the top corner of the net. Whereupon both the manager on the touchline and the senior players will wince and tut-tut at his grotesque gaffe, for he has committed a faux pas equivalent to Rembrandt, having only half-completed one of his canvases, punching a hole in it with his fist.

No no, it will be impressed upon the neophyte; this is not the Arsenal way. And, session by session, he will be versed in the more sublime, tantric delights of the endless passing game – the eternal dance of the cut-off, the layback, the forward jab, the flick, the succession of triangular motions, the Euclidian spectacle which is the true end in itself. And then, once this philosophy is ingrained in every fibre of his being, his initiation will be complete when he is at last invited to visit the Emirates trophy room and behold its cabinet, a contemporary masterpiece of uncluttered minimalism, a triumph of form over content. Here, he will be invited to marvel at the spotless glass through which all is visible is one's own reflection, the finish
of teak shelving, untouched by base metal. For this, is the Arsenal way, and thus it is destined to remain. Rosicky!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on February 28, 2011, 01:52:58 PM
Thanks for that ringing testimonial dinny,and to once more descend into the "linguistic cesspit" that is Brummie   ARSE n ALL ARSE n ALL when yow goo ta wash yer ands yow must wash ARSE n ALL.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 28, 2011, 02:24:05 PM
Would Man City sell you Given? 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: maddog on February 28, 2011, 03:12:46 PM
Funny i heard a lad singing that last night.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on March 01, 2011, 12:23:50 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 28, 2011, 02:24:05 PM
Would Man City sell you Given?
Chickens are coming home to roost for Wenger.

2 years ago he could have Given for £8m but apparently thought he was commanding enough in the area!

£20m would have got Given and Haangeland from Fulham and left Arsenal as a team epxecting to win things rather than hoping.

In 15 years in charge of Arsenal how many good defenders has Wenger bought? Sol Campbell. Vermalleen.Any more?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on March 01, 2011, 10:19:58 AM

He got sol free - hence why he took him.

jury still out on vermalleen
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on March 01, 2011, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on February 28, 2011, 01:26:46 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 27, 2011, 06:20:14 PM
Nice touch by Bowyer patting the Arsenal defender on the head during the celebrations. He was always a class act.

It might of been Barry Ferguson.

No suprise there either.

of course it was number 23 the hun from glasgow....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2011, 02:03:39 PM
Arsenal have just built a stadium, they have no money why do people find that hard to understand.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 01, 2011, 05:32:41 PM
Van Persie out for a while.

The sky is falling.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 01, 2011, 05:57:28 PM
3 weeks. Can we play 2 keepers and 9 defenders against Barca?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 01, 2011, 09:41:36 PM
are things on the up, well sure can't  get any worst

Team           P    GD    PTS

1    Man Utd    28    35    60
2    Arsenal    27    30    56
3    Man City    28    19    50
4    Chelsea    27    25    48
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 01, 2011, 09:45:32 PM
Sunderland have lost their last four games. Arsenal 0 Sunderland 3.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on March 01, 2011, 10:08:35 PM
Possibly no Walcott, Fab & defo no RVP v Barca.

Nightmare.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2011, 10:23:10 PM
FFS why couldn't Man U just beat Chelsea, it will make the defeat by Sunderland feel even worse...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 01, 2011, 10:30:29 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2011, 10:23:10 PM
FFS why couldn't Man U just beat Chelsea, it will make the defeat by Sunderland feel even worse...

Ha! That's the spirit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on March 01, 2011, 11:27:54 PM
Congrats lads its all yours...6 years of heartache is over  :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 02, 2011, 07:43:10 PM
Wenger makes 10 changes, fair to say not many of tonight's team will play in the next round.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on March 02, 2011, 08:02:25 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 02, 2011, 07:43:10 PM
Wenger makes 10 changes, fair to say not many of tonight's team will play in the next round.

None if we're beat
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 02, 2011, 08:42:45 PM
3-0 at HT. Fairly straight forward although with Arsenal you never know...

3 good goals and good to see the 2 strikers getting amongst them.

Did you see the cut of Almunia coming out for that ball near the end? Feck me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 02, 2011, 09:06:41 PM
need to get a few more goals to get the confidence back for sunderland and barca
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 02, 2011, 09:12:00 PM
Bender hattrick. Surely he's up there with Messi and Puskas now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on March 05, 2011, 03:28:54 AM
In his own head he was a long time ago  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: hassletravel on March 05, 2011, 07:42:25 AM
Massive game for us today, win and it'll put a lot of pressure on utd, come on arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2011, 09:40:26 AM
11 matches left. Win them all and the job's a good'un.

Sunderland will be fired up for this. They've lost their last four but Bruce has been getting wired into them all week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2011, 09:54:45 AM
This Orient fan sums it up well - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dckPdiDjrnE
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 05, 2011, 10:13:34 AM
Sign me up for the rest of the season lads.


Nasri proclaims Arsenal as title favourites

www.times.co.uk

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Samir Nasri laid out the weight of evidence to conclude that Arsenal were title favourites, but if only things were that predictable for them this season.
It might not have been the boldest of the midfield player's statements, which included that Barcelona, their Champions League opponents, are weaker than last season, but it will be guaranteed to provoke a strong response from Old Trafford.
Arsenal would move to one point of Manchester United with victory against Sunderland today. With 11 matches left, Arsenal's hardest tests are a trip to Tottenham Hotspur and hosting Liverpool and United. "Yes we have a better chance [than United] and I am convinced of our quality," Nasri said. "We have the best schedule. Man United are very strong at the back but have defenders out and Liverpool hate each them. It is time for us to win not just this year but in the future as well. In France we say: 'Now or never' meaning it is our best chance."
Nasri believes that United are short of special players and Chelsea are fallible. "Man United were untouchable Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlo Tevez two years ago," Nasri said. "They scored and made the difference with smaller teams. United have been unconvincing away this season. Chelsea just fell down after eight games. We can feel the Premier League."
Arsenal, who lost 1-0 at Old Trafford in December, can strike a psychological blow when they return in the FA Cup quarter final a week today. "They didn't play in the normal way in the league game, they were scared and had three defensive midfielders," he said. "They know that we can beat them. We can."
Arsenal's record has been questionable against smaller sides this season and Arsene Wenger, the manager, left it 24 hours before he addressed the players after losing to Birmingham City in Sunday's Carling Cup final. "It was a massive blow as sometimes when you didn't win a trophy you become scared of winning," Nasri said, speaking at the launch of the adidas Champions League ball. "Winning a trophy would bring more confidence and convinces you that you can fight with every team and that is what you need. We are aware that we cannot [slip up]. We have guts to show our answers in the other competitions. It would be a huge blow not to win one."
They include the Champions League. Arsenal hold a 2-1 advantage entering Tuesday's round of 16 second leg away to Barcelona, where they lost 4-1 in the quarter final, second leg, last season. "Last year their first touch was a nightmare," he said. "For the first time in my life I was frustrated. We didn't touch the ball. It was like playing 16 against 11. Maybe we were scared. They are not as strong this year. This time we had nothing to lose. We won and are convinced we can beat them. They have to attack and will leave plenty of space for the counter attack."

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 05, 2011, 01:15:22 PM
I think you missed out out on the main part of that article Minder "I can almost 'feel' Arsenal's hands on Premier League trophy"

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2011, 03:51:59 PM
0-0 at HT.

Sunderland playing as I thought - a team determined to end their losing run at all costs. They're biting into tackles (legally) and working their arses off for that 0-0.

Arsenal disjointed with only Nasri showing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on March 05, 2011, 03:55:00 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 05, 2011, 03:51:59 PM
0-0 at HT.

Sunderland playing as I thought - a team determined to end their losing run at all costs. They're biting into tackles (legally) and working their arses off for that 0-0.

Arsenal disjointed with only Nasri showing.

Making chances though. I'm confident of victory at this stage
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 05, 2011, 05:50:30 PM
 0-0 in the next game & the gooners here will be in dream land.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2011, 05:53:31 PM
Unlucky with 2 wrong officials' decisions but couldn't fault effort second half. Very close on so many occasions.

Still, a point closer. Fairly confident of catching and overtaking Utd.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on March 05, 2011, 05:54:02 PM
1 point is better than nothing.

Better than losing, like United did the other night -  Ferguson would have been delighted with a point the other night against Chelsea in the end.


Wenger wasn't a happy boy walking down that tunnel.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2011, 05:59:59 PM
It was a really poor offside decision.

As for the penalty, Arshavin should've gone down. Linesman was up with play though and should have flagged but there were other chances - Chamakh rattled the crossbar and Bendtner had chance at the end.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 05, 2011, 06:24:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 05, 2011, 05:53:31 PM
Fairly confident of catching and overtaking Utd.

What happened to your reverse psychology?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2011, 06:37:35 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 05, 2011, 06:24:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 05, 2011, 05:53:31 PM
Fairly confident of catching and overtaking Utd.

What happened to your reverse psychology?

I speak from the heart.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 05, 2011, 06:45:15 PM
I just hope Liverpool can do us a favour tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 05, 2011, 06:47:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 05, 2011, 06:45:15 PM
I just hope Liverpool can do us a favour tomorrow.

So were you playing today?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 05, 2011, 06:50:54 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 05, 2011, 06:47:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 05, 2011, 06:45:15 PM
I just hope Liverpool can do us a favour tomorrow.

So were you playing today?

When you have such a deep affinity with a club as I do with Arsenal I have every right to refer to them as "us".
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 05, 2011, 06:53:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 05, 2011, 06:50:54 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 05, 2011, 06:47:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 05, 2011, 06:45:15 PM
I just hope Liverpool can do us a favour tomorrow.

So were you playing today?

When you have such a deep affinity with a club as I do with Arsenal I have every right to refer to them as "us".

Good stuff Minder...good stuff!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2011, 06:53:53 PM
Minder is Pat Rice
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on March 05, 2011, 07:00:41 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 05, 2011, 06:53:53 PM
Minder is Pat Rice

Has Paddy Rice ever done a media interview in his role as assistant Manager.

Can never recall one.

Maybe he has a high pitched squeaky voive like Alan Ball
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 05, 2011, 07:20:22 PM
Dissapointing result today given the performance. Nasri really has to be POTY. He's been fee-nominal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 05, 2011, 07:29:37 PM
No need for the assistant manager to speak to the press when your manager does not refuse to speak to certain media outlets.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 05, 2011, 07:49:59 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x18bzu_patrice40thyeararsenal_sport
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2011, 07:55:58 PM
Arsenal at home today? too lazy to check.

Barca had the ball for nearly 41 minutes there, but only managed one goal so far.  Arsenal can hold this team and score
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 05, 2011, 09:14:57 PM

QuoteIt was a really poor offside decision.

offside? (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhduz0_sunarsoffon457_tech#from=embed)
Quote
As for the penalty, Arshavin should've gone down.

penalty? (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhduw2_sunpenshtars56889_travel#from=embed)

should have won by two goals and have had three point from this game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on March 05, 2011, 09:15:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkQiE3Ia7Rw&feature=player_embedded

Cheers Brucey
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: centre 3/4s on March 05, 2011, 09:36:06 PM
my god being an arsenal fan this season is serious hard work, for once i am now starting to doubt arsene. His tactics are spot on and his commitment is 100% but he is to loyal to too many average players who are not up to Arsenal standard. Bendtner, rosicky, denilson, arshavin, eboue, to name a few. Diaby and van persie are too injury prone so to have them miss two thirds of the season every year ans still pick up mamouth pay packets is not good and they should be shipped on. We need players with genuine strength and who are physically intimadating, we will never have an opportunity to win silverware again like we do this year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on March 05, 2011, 09:49:41 PM
Quote from: gerry on March 05, 2011, 09:14:57 PM

QuoteIt was a really poor offside decision.

offside? (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhduz0_sunarsoffon457_tech#from=embed)
Quote
As for the penalty, Arshavin should've gone down.

penalty? (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhduw2_sunpenshtars56889_travel#from=embed)

should have won by two goals and have had three point from this game

Quote from: Minder on March 01, 2011, 09:50:27 PM
Sure these things even themselves out over the course of the season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2011, 10:39:38 PM
I'd turn, and run past your man Bramble from Sunderland!!

he's worst defender in the league, and Welbeck should have done Utd a favour
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 05, 2011, 11:09:18 PM
Could be a valuable point, Arsenal always play badly in clusters so will probably lose Tues and Sat and then remain unbeaten for the rest of the season, should be enough to clinch the title..

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2011, 11:12:15 PM
Yep, despite the 5-0 win on Wed night, Arsenal are not in good form right now. If they can hang in there, get Fabregas, Walcott and Song fit for the final 10 games they'll not be far away.

The Barca game is a strange one. Don't think I give a damn even though a draw will see Arsenal through. The league is the biggie.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 05, 2011, 11:31:40 PM
A early CL exit last season helped Chelsea win the league so I'm sure the gooners fan's will hope the same can happen for them.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 05, 2011, 11:44:27 PM
QuoteThe Barca game is a strange one. Don't think I give a damn even though a draw will see Arsenal through. The league is the biggie.

A good peformance on Tues would be important not pushed on the result either though - still think Chelsea will win it, plus the way Man U are set-up and throw in Madrid and I just don't think Arsenal have it in them to get past any 2 of those clubs over 2 legs.

It's all about the league.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on March 06, 2011, 02:39:36 PM
Arsenal in the driving seat now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2011, 03:10:58 PM
Quote from: orangeman on March 06, 2011, 02:39:36 PM
Arsenal in the driving seat now.

If Arsenal had a 4 point lead going into the last game, they'd find a way to c**k it up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 06, 2011, 03:22:18 PM
Favour done, don't f**k it up now!!!!!  dirk Kuyt will get the keys to Highbury if ye win it!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 06, 2011, 03:26:24 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 06, 2011, 03:22:18 PM
Favour done, don't f**k it up now!!!!!  dirk Kuyt will get the keys to Highbury if ye win it!

I'm sure he can afford to buy one of the appartments there, always liked Kuyt good work rate and attitude but definitely gone up my estimation now but we all know the Arse will somehow find a way to f**k it up...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 06, 2011, 07:01:48 PM
Arsenal have it all in their hands now I hope they don't mess it up!

Also talk about early CL or FA Cup exits is wrong in my opinion. I think it was 3 or 4 years ago maybe when Arsenal were right up there with Utd and Wenger fielded a weakened team against Man Ure in the cup and they got absolutely tanked. It was a demoralising loss and the team spiralled after that with United getting stronger!! A win against Barca on Tue and Utd on Saturday would give Arsenal some lift for the run in!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on March 06, 2011, 09:18:27 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 06, 2011, 07:01:48 PM
Arsenal have it all in their hands now I hope they don't mess it up!


I also hope Arsenal can do it I but I don't think it is Arsenals to lose as such. A draw would suit United at the Emirates.

Arsenal have still a great chance as both sides will drop points. Probably be the lowest winning points tally in a long time.


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 07, 2011, 06:15:34 PM
RVP travelled to Barcelona. I hope Wenger doesn't take an unnecessary risk with him. Yet I also understand the temptation with their defence rightly weakened.

Possible Barca -
Valdes;
Alves, Busquets, Abidal, Maxwell;
Xavi, Mascherano, Iniesta;
Pedro, David Villa, Messi.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 08, 2011, 06:18:13 PM
It's on tonight

(http://www.intro-spective.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/arsenal-barcelona-1.jpg)

But this place is like















(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7630/tumbleweed.gif)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 08, 2011, 06:31:12 PM
Not much to be said Ross. It is very much the calm before the storm. We could get trounced, and I could be seeing this post quoted and edited in a couple of hours. Or, we could play to our potential and actually win this game and tie in the nou camp. I think deep down a lot of Arsenal fans may be very positive about tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 08, 2011, 06:46:53 PM
Near full strength team named v Barca with a makeshift back four

I fancied Arse to go through if they had a lead going into Camp Nou so i won't change my mind now! i think Barca will win tonight but Arse will win the tie.


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on March 08, 2011, 07:01:01 PM
Big gamble with RVP.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on March 08, 2011, 07:06:50 PM
Good to see Rafa working for Sky,at least he knows what he his talking about when discussing winning in the Nou Camp with a English club.
Hope Barca win.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 08, 2011, 07:10:51 PM
Arsenal are 9-1!

What!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2011, 07:19:28 PM
They are 6/1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 08, 2011, 07:21:36 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 08, 2011, 07:06:50 PM
Good to see Rafa working for Sky,at least he knows what he his talking about when discussing winning in the Nou Camp with a English club.
Hope Barca win.

A spanish man calling it "Nou Camp" are you sure RLL?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: thejuice on March 08, 2011, 07:23:28 PM
You can watch it here for free.

http://www.esport3.cat/directes/especials/


You can find english radio commentary if your Catalan is a bit rusty.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 07:27:32 PM
I just want Arsenal to come through this without injury. To get through the tie is a bonus. Not bullshitting either and maybe not sentiments shared by Arsenal fans. Very calm about this to the point of almost apathy.

It'd be great to score. I can see 4-1, 3-0, or 3-1 Barca.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Big Puff on March 08, 2011, 07:31:39 PM
Really looking forward to this game tonight. Should be taped and showed to kids on how to play soccer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2011, 07:38:22 PM
I've went for a 3-1 win for Barca (sorry O'Neill) if there's any consolation I'm rubbish at picking bets this last while.

3-1 Villa to score first
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 08, 2011, 07:40:04 PM
Quote from: Big Puff on March 08, 2011, 07:31:39 PM
Really looking forward to this game tonight. Should be taped and showed to kids on how to play soccer.

Wenger taped it last season & showed it to his kids, he'll be hoping they learned something from watching it & not men against boys again tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on March 08, 2011, 07:40:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2011, 07:19:28 PM
They are 6/1

They are 9.4 on Betfair, ridiculous price. Ive had a few quid on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 07:42:09 PM
How fit are Fabregas and Van Persie? We'll know after 10 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2011, 07:51:38 PM
Be some craic in the stadium for this match!!  Arsenal doing alright after 5 minutes, 85v to go
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2011, 08:04:00 PM
Oh that's gotta hurt, not bad replacement though
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 08:23:22 PM
Have Arsenal attacked yet?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2011, 08:26:13 PM
don't need to, they are winning!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 08, 2011, 08:27:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 08:23:22 PM
Have Arsenal attacked yet?

Not much point in starting Van Persie really!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 08:27:47 PM
Some concentration levels needed however.

This is relentless.

Coped well so far.

Fabregas touched it?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2011, 08:35:15 PM
that was some touch
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 08, 2011, 08:35:36 PM
Bad time to let in a goal, wenger will have to change his 10 men behind the ball tactics now & two defenders on yellows risky business in the 2nd half.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 08, 2011, 08:36:15 PM
I didn't realise how good that finish was until the replay!! What was Fabregas doing?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 08:36:55 PM
Yep, Fabregas's fault.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 08:39:52 PM
WTF was Cesc doing backheeling there?

First half stats: Barcelona v Arsenal: Shots 8-0 Possession 75%-25%.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Bingo on March 08, 2011, 08:42:07 PM
Serious stuff from messi. Was that good it took a replay to spot it. Crazy from fabergas, if he did that on edge of barca box you'd be unhappy with him. Is that his first assist for barca?  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2011, 08:43:12 PM
Tony talks a lot of shite
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 08:44:34 PM
Yep, Cascarino talking balls. This time last year Arsenal were 3-1 down yet Tony says this is one of the worst performances by an English team in Europe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2011, 08:47:46 PM
Can't have him, Martin's grand knows a bit.

Game not lost, needs to hold it for next 20 minutes and then go for it. Would actually like Arsenal to go through
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 08:50:44 PM
Arsenal were never going to hold Barca for 90-odd minutes. So in that regard nothing has changed - they need to score somehow.

You have to admire the way Barca win the ball back. 3 players crowd the man in possession. It's like 18 yr olds v 9 yr olds.

At the minute Arsenal being taught a lesson too in that kind of football.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 08:52:45 PM
Cascarino thinks Cesc and Van Persie have lied to Wenger and aren't fit....and Bendtner is the man to win it....

Keown not a fan of Rosicky.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 08, 2011, 08:53:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2011, 07:19:28 PM
They are 6/1

9-1 in bookies in Derry  today!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 08:55:13 PM
Just don't leave the field without one good shot on goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2011, 09:02:06 PM
First corner? goal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 08, 2011, 09:03:34 PM
Arsenal players still haven't had a shot on goal though!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2011, 09:04:11 PM
Keeper holding face and was not hit there?????
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 08, 2011, 09:06:10 PM
Very soft, both bookings were for nothing, common sense ref?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2011, 09:06:21 PM
That's a joke, seriously bad craic
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 09:07:08 PM
Not really make a difference I suppose.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 09:08:14 PM
Arsenal should play dirty now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 08, 2011, 09:09:04 PM
Barce getting the ref's rub over an English side. Surely not.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 118cmal on March 08, 2011, 09:10:17 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 09:08:14 PM
Arsenal should play dirty now.

And get more sent off?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 09:11:16 PM
No I mean feign injury, time waste etc.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 08, 2011, 09:11:53 PM
Barca are every bit as big a bunch of cheating, whining w@nkers as you will see. Yes they play nice football but every ref at the CN is in their pocket and they go through every cheat in the book over 90min.

Disgraceful refereeing. Expect a penalty if Barca don't score soon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 08, 2011, 09:14:22 PM
Inter played last year's game with 10 men for one hour so there's hope for Arse yet
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on March 08, 2011, 09:15:29 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on March 08, 2011, 09:11:53 PM


Disgraceful refereeing. Expect a penalty if Barca don't score soon.

They should have had one already
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2011, 09:16:09 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on March 08, 2011, 09:11:53 PM
Barca are every bit as big a bunch of cheating, whining w@nkers as you will see. Yes they play nice football but every ref at the CN is in their pocket and they go through every cheat in the book over 90min.

Disgraceful refereeing. Expect a penalty if Barca don't score soon.

To be fair the referee should have given one in the first half for Messi
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 08, 2011, 09:16:39 PM
Villa misses a lot of chances.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 09:17:04 PM
Arsenal still have 8 yellows to spread about. Get wired into them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on March 08, 2011, 09:19:41 PM
No Row Q defending from Arsenal.  Though it might be an option.

What did Van Persie get his first yellow card for?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 08, 2011, 09:20:58 PM
Odds on a 3-2 win?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2011, 09:21:16 PM
Get up and win another corner!!!

too early for my bet as Barca will score more now :(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 08, 2011, 09:22:27 PM
Excellent article in Sunday times yesterday  interviewing last 10 or so managers who stopped Barca. Effectively need to press them high and be in their faces for 90. Arsenal too nice by far.

Jose had their number at Inter. Played nicey nice in the group stage and let Barca waltz around then nailed them in the knockout. Real still not on his wavelength that way yet.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 09:26:15 PM
You can see how a good team who are used to the way Arsenal are defending tonight can squeeze out Barca.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 08, 2011, 09:27:25 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 08:52:45 PM
Cascarino thinks Cesc and Van Persie have lied to Wenger and aren't fit....and Bendtner is the man to win it....

Keown not a fan of Rosicky.

Neither am I. What does he contribute exactly - ever?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 09:29:02 PM
Can Arsenal test their keeper yet? 80 mins without a shot on goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 09:33:45 PM
Just one shot, please. 17-0 in attempts is a wee bit embarrassing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 09:40:00 PM
Was it a shot on goal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 08, 2011, 09:44:11 PM
Had money on 3-2 barca win bollix to that  >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 08, 2011, 09:48:15 PM
Bendtner. A joke of a footballer. Gifted a chance to win the game. Couldn't control a bag of sh!te.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 09:48:59 PM
Barcelona attempted more shots on their own goal than Arsenal managed themselves (0) in this match.

That's simply a crap stat and I don't care how good Barca are.

2 weeks ago, Arsenal were chasing the quadruple. On Sat night, it might be the wan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: clarshack on March 08, 2011, 09:50:10 PM
van persie sending off was very harsh but can it really be argued it was a turning point as arsenal barely attacked?

aluminia kept it from being a humiliation -  who would have thought!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 09:50:20 PM
Barcelona v Arsenal stats: Shots 20-0 Possession 76%-24%.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 08, 2011, 09:52:12 PM
If you were to criticise Barcelona it is that they try and walk the ball into the net and were wasteful tonight. It was ridiculous that they were that Bentner chance away from going out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 09:55:30 PM
Wenger swinging digs in the tunnel.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 08, 2011, 09:55:47 PM
For all Barcelonas domination and possession if that long string of misery had taken that chance the Gunners would be in the next round.
My mind boggles what a manager of Wengers quality ever saw in him.
Chamahak would have taken that chance.

Barca really know how to get a referee on their side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 08, 2011, 09:56:34 PM
Wenger needs shot of everyone bar Sagna, Wilshire and Nasri. RVP while a great player isn't up to a full season and taking £35mill for Fabregas (who will be a Barca benchwarmer) would be great business.

In fact surely questions must be asked about Wenger. Is he really taking Arsenal any
Closer to the CL?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2011, 09:57:00 PM
Well my 10/1 shot came up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 08, 2011, 09:57:31 PM
Why was Wenger wearing a sleeping bag?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 09:58:19 PM
RVP - "In my opinion the ref killed the game. The sending off had a big influence. It was a total joke. How can I hear the whistle?"

Not, Robin, no shots on goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 08, 2011, 09:58:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 09:50:20 PM
Barcelona v Arsenal stats: Shots 20-0 Possession 76%-24%.
Embarassing. Time to put Wenger out to grass.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 10:01:07 PM
What Keown said is important. Arsenal don't believe they're better than Barca. Utd, even if they're more limited than Arsenal, would have that belief. Wilshere again was the only player who thought he could compete.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: boojangles on March 08, 2011, 10:08:44 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 10:01:07 PM
What Keown said is important. Arsenal don't believe they're better than Barca. Utd, even if they're more limited than Arsenal, would have that belief. Wilshere again was the only player who thought he could compete.

While I agree about Arsenals lack of belief I don't think for one minute that Man United could take that Barca team. Thats a better team than the team that destroyed Man U in the CL Final.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 10:09:28 PM
Some crap being tweeted about Arsenal being done over by the ref.

Here's a startling fact - Arsenal are the only side to create ZERO shots on goal in this year's CL. That includes Rangers and all the other shite teams.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 08, 2011, 10:11:16 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on March 08, 2011, 09:56:34 PM
Wenger needs shot of everyone bar Sagna, Wilshire and Nasri. RVP while a great player isn't up to a full season and taking £35mill for Fabregas (who will be a Barca benchwarmer) would be great business.

In fact surely questions must be asked about Wenger. Is he really taking Arsenal any
Closer to the CL?

Nonsense. This isn't all doom and gloom. How good a season are Arsenal having? Who wouldn't swap with them in the PL at this moment - even though they are out of the CL?

This team WILL deliver - my only concern is Wenger keeping the squad together long enough, and all happy long enough for it to happen. Clinical strikers and some steel in the defence. Best midfield in the PL, maybe even the second best in Europe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2011, 10:16:53 PM
I love the opinions on this thread that this player is shit or that player is brilliant or Wenger hasn't a clue why does everything have to be the extreme end of the hyperbole spectrum. Are people now afraid to make rational judgements?

Beaten 4-3 on aggregate is not a disgrace, Barca are an exceptional side, maybe the best ever and will go very close to winning the UCL again.

The most disappointing thing as O'Neill has mentioned is that Arsenal didn't have a cut just didn't go for the jugular until it was too late. They defended pretty well I thought but just couldn't retain possession and fair play to Alumnia, kept Arsenal in it.

Wenger will rightly complain about the farcical red card more as a means of deflection and of creating a siege mentality. 

Arsenal don't have the squad to compete on so many fronts so hopefully they'll push on really challenge for the EPL.

My only negative is Clichy, he really can't defend in an organisational sense, always seems to be caught out of position.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 10:21:29 PM
The Clichy thing was horrible tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2011, 10:23:22 PM
yea need to get Gibbes in there I think
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on March 08, 2011, 10:24:30 PM
And weren't Arsenal only playin Barca cause they finished 2nd in their (handy) group.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 10:28:30 PM
‎Wenger:

"Surprised Barcelona didn't get one yellow? No. And I won't say more."
‎   
"Would it have been unjust for football a team that didn't shoot on goal would qualify? It wasn't easy for us."

‎   
"I'm convinced we would have qualified if Van Persie hadn't been sent off"

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 08, 2011, 10:29:51 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on March 08, 2011, 10:24:30 PM
And weren't Arsenal only playin Barca cause they finished 2nd in their (handy) group.

Shakhtar Donetsk topped that group & are looking decent, i think the hardest pill to swallow for Arse fan's will be seeing Spurs in the next round.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Rocky Mc Guigan on March 08, 2011, 10:30:03 PM
Wee Jack Ham and the lads will need the Wenger arm, or whatever he calls it, around the shoulder before the kick fest that will be Saturday evening at Old Trafford
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on March 08, 2011, 10:31:00 PM
Rough justice when Van Persie got sent off - it was really a huge turning point  -

To be fair, Barcelona outplayed Arsenal over the 2 legs but Arsenal could have still sneaked it at the end, in spite of having been dominated.


Arsenal are about 2 players short of being a great side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Rocky Mc Guigan on March 08, 2011, 10:32:28 PM
It was backs against forwards before he went off and something very similar after he went off
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 10:32:55 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 08, 2011, 10:29:51 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on March 08, 2011, 10:24:30 PM
And weren't Arsenal only playin Barca cause they finished 2nd in their (handy) group.

Shakhtar Donetsk topped that group & are looking decent, i think the hardest pill to swallow for Arse fan's will be seeing Spurs in the next round.

Not in the slightest. Arsenal have experienced decades of that over the Spuds. Spurs are still a threat with 10 games to go. If they can prolong their CL involvement for another 3-4 weeks it should finish them off. I'll be sorta cheering them on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 08, 2011, 10:37:08 PM
VP has done a Fergie on the interview "Ref was a joke he shouldn't be here"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 10:38:27 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 08, 2011, 10:37:08 PM
VP has done a Fergie on the interview "Ref was a joke he shouldn't be here"

No, Fergie stupid enough to do it with the FA.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on March 08, 2011, 10:38:57 PM
Quote from: orangeman on March 08, 2011, 10:31:00 PM
Rough justice when Van Persie got sent off - it was really a huge turning point  -

To be fair, Barcelona outplayed Arsenal over the 2 legs but Arsenal could have still sneaked it at the end, in spite of having been dominated.


Arsenal are about 2 players short of being a great side.

Definitely. Arsenal were really coming into the game at that stage and threatening heavily, they even managed to get out of their own half once or twice.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 08, 2011, 10:41:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 10:38:27 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 08, 2011, 10:37:08 PM
VP has done a Fergie on the interview "Ref was a joke he shouldn't be here"

No, Fergie stupid enough to do it with the FA.

So UEFA will turn a blind eye?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 08, 2011, 10:51:10 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2011, 10:16:53 PM
I love the opinions on this thread that this player is shit or that player is brilliant or Wenger hasn't a clue why does everything have to be the extreme end of the hyperbole spectrum. Are people now afraid to make rational judgements?

Beaten 4-3 on aggregate is not a disgrace, Barca are an exceptional side, maybe the best ever and will go very close to winning the UCL again.

The most disappointing thing as O'Neill has mentioned is that Arsenal didn't have a cut just didn't go for the jugular until it was too late. They defended pretty well I thought but just couldn't retain possession and fair play to Alumnia, kept Arsenal in it.

Wenger will rightly complain about the farcical red card more as a means of deflection and of creating a siege mentality. 

Arsenal don't have the squad to compete on so many fronts so hopefully they'll push on really challenge for the EPL.

My only negative is Clichy, he really can't defend in an organisational sense, always seems to be caught out of position.
Do you really think Hill-Wood and the rest of the board will continue to accept Arsenal being nearly men? It's years since Arsenal have won anything of note.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2011, 10:55:16 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 08, 2011, 10:51:10 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2011, 10:16:53 PM
I love the opinions on this thread that this player is shit or that player is brilliant or Wenger hasn't a clue why does everything have to be the extreme end of the hyperbole spectrum. Are people now afraid to make rational judgements?

Beaten 4-3 on aggregate is not a disgrace, Barca are an exceptional side, maybe the best ever and will go very close to winning the UCL again.

The most disappointing thing as O'Neill has mentioned is that Arsenal didn't have a cut just didn't go for the jugular until it was too late. They defended pretty well I thought but just couldn't retain possession and fair play to Alumnia, kept Arsenal in it.

Wenger will rightly complain about the farcical red card more as a means of deflection and of creating a siege mentality. 

Arsenal don't have the squad to compete on so many fronts so hopefully they'll push on really challenge for the EPL.

My only negative is Clichy, he really can't defend in an organisational sense, always seems to be caught out of position.
Do you really think Hill-Wood and the rest of the board will continue to accept Arsenal being nearly men? It's years since Arsenal have won anything of note.

Do you know anything about the culture of Arsenal football club, 6 years is nothing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on March 08, 2011, 11:01:25 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 08, 2011, 10:37:08 PM
VP has done a Fergie on the interview "Ref was a joke he shouldn't be here"
2nd booking was harsh, although VPs reaction after putting the ball wide was not one of great disappointment which would suggest he heard the whistle.

He has no excuses over the 1st booking which was down to his own stupidity.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 08, 2011, 11:02:37 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2011, 10:55:16 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 08, 2011, 10:51:10 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2011, 10:16:53 PM
I love the opinions on this thread that this player is shit or that player is brilliant or Wenger hasn't a clue why does everything have to be the extreme end of the hyperbole spectrum. Are people now afraid to make rational judgements?

Beaten 4-3 on aggregate is not a disgrace, Barca are an exceptional side, maybe the best ever and will go very close to winning the UCL again.

The most disappointing thing as O'Neill has mentioned is that Arsenal didn't have a cut just didn't go for the jugular until it was too late. They defended pretty well I thought but just couldn't retain possession and fair play to Alumnia, kept Arsenal in it.

Wenger will rightly complain about the farcical red card more as a means of deflection and of creating a siege mentality. 

Arsenal don't have the squad to compete on so many fronts so hopefully they'll push on really challenge for the EPL.

My only negative is Clichy, he really can't defend in an organisational sense, always seems to be caught out of position.
Do you really think Hill-Wood and the rest of the board will continue to accept Arsenal being nearly men? It's years since Arsenal have won anything of note.

Do you know anything about the culture of Arsenal football club, 6 years is nothing.

28 years Man Utd didn't win the title, Fergie was on his way only for Robbins in the FA Cup. Arsenal have been lucky to have Arsen in my view
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 11:04:17 PM
Fabregas: Great support from the arsenal fans. I take full blame for the result tonight. One of the worst moments of my life. I apologise.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2011, 11:08:44 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 11:04:17 PM
Fabregas: Great support from the arsenal fans. I take full blame for the result tonight. One of the worst moments of my life. I apologise.

In fairness to the Arsenal players they're all so young that they just take everything to heart, they were in bits after the CC final. It's hard not to believe that these defeats will only develop a resolve that will ultimately lead to glory.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on March 08, 2011, 11:15:32 PM
Only 4 capital cities have seen one of their clubs win the CL/European Cup - and London ain't one of those 4 cities.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2011, 11:17:12 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on March 08, 2011, 11:15:32 PM
Only 4 capital cities have seen one of their clubs win the CL/European Cup - and London ain't one of those 4 cities.

Really fancy Chelsea this year, in a one off game they'd really rattle Barcelona.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on March 08, 2011, 11:21:05 PM
Hard luck lads...even thou yous were outplayed for large parts of the 2 legs yous could of very easily went tru
Would hate to see what Barcas midfield would do to United  :-\
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 11:22:56 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/UZrXG.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on March 08, 2011, 11:26:08 PM
With that back 3 barca would still of won  :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: anportmorforjfc on March 08, 2011, 11:35:51 PM
fcuk she looks alot like Nasri!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2011, 11:45:12 PM
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/254637149.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1299628855&Signature=7OnhZT1DJ8b5V%2Bt5kUhF2grHShI%3D)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 09, 2011, 12:04:47 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2011, 11:17:12 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on March 08, 2011, 11:15:32 PM
Only 4 capital cities have seen one of their clubs win the CL/European Cup - and London ain't one of those 4 cities.

Really fancy Chelsea this year, in a one off game they'd really rattle Barcelona.

Madrid, Lisbon, Belgrade, Bucharest?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Niall Quinn on March 09, 2011, 12:17:12 AM
Hamster jam too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 09, 2011, 12:18:49 AM
Must be five what about Amsterdam?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 09, 2011, 12:33:57 AM
Jeez, didn't even think of Ajax!

The match. Barca are incredible. Yes, Arsenal got treated unbelievably harshly with the sending off, but they were getting torn apart anyway.

Fabregas clearly wasn't fit.

Arsenal didn't appear to have any tactics. Not one shot? Come on Arsene, at least give the thing a go.

Messi's goal will live long in the memory. That dink was one of the most special things I've ever seen on a football pitch. I didn't cop on until the replay just what he'd actually tried. Regardless of the backheel, the build up play to it from Iniesta was phenomenal.

Daniel Alves, for all the theatrical whinging and crying, is absolutely outstanding. Without doubt the best right back on the planet. He should actually shoot a bit more and learn to be a little more selfish. Unreal player.

Wilshere is brilliant. Needs to keep the temper and agro in check as well. Tweeting a little too much for a first year pro.

Bendtner is a donkey. Apparently some sports psychologist analysed him and said he'd never come across someone with so much self-confidence. He genuinely believes he's an all time great.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballinaman on March 09, 2011, 01:40:21 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 09, 2011, 12:04:47 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2011, 11:17:12 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on March 08, 2011, 11:15:32 PM
Only 4 capital cities have seen one of their clubs win the CL/European Cup - and London ain't one of those 4 cities.

Really fancy Chelsea this year, in a one off game they'd really rattle Barcelona.

Madrid, Lisbon, Belgrade, Bucharest?
Paris, Rome, Berlin?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 09, 2011, 01:57:14 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 09, 2011, 01:40:21 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 09, 2011, 12:04:47 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2011, 11:17:12 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on March 08, 2011, 11:15:32 PM
Only 4 capital cities have seen one of their clubs win the CL/European Cup - and London ain't one of those 4 cities.

Really fancy Chelsea this year, in a one off game they'd really rattle Barcelona.

Madrid, Lisbon, Belgrade, Bucharest?
Paris, Rome, Berlin?

Nope, plenty of final's in those places i think Roma got the closest (beaten by pool on penalties)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballinaman on March 09, 2011, 02:56:42 AM
Quote from: ross4life on March 09, 2011, 01:57:14 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 09, 2011, 01:40:21 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 09, 2011, 12:04:47 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2011, 11:17:12 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on March 08, 2011, 11:15:32 PM
Only 4 capital cities have seen one of their clubs win the CL/European Cup - and London ain't one of those 4 cities.

Really fancy Chelsea this year, in a one off game they'd really rattle Barcelona.

Madrid, Lisbon, Belgrade, Bucharest?
Paris, Rome, Berlin?

Nope, plenty of final's in those places i think Roma got the closest (beaten by pool on penalties)
Ah right, thought it was which capital cities has never won a european cup/champions league....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on March 09, 2011, 08:44:28 AM
Quote from: gallsman on March 09, 2011, 12:04:47 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2011, 11:17:12 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on March 08, 2011, 11:15:32 PM
Only 4 capital cities have seen one of their clubs win the CL/European Cup - and London ain't one of those 4 cities.

Really fancy Chelsea this year, in a one off game they'd really rattle Barcelona.

Madrid, Lisbon, Belgrade, Bucharest?

Correct 4 here. The Hague is capital of Holland.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 09, 2011, 09:16:54 AM
Can you pur your trivia somewhere else and for the record the Dutch government sits in the The Hague but Amsterdam is the actually capital.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on March 09, 2011, 09:51:54 AM
Sore this morning Dinny?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Bingo on March 09, 2011, 09:57:11 AM
Read on twitter last night:

Arsenal had one shot at goal and had a man sent off for it.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 09, 2011, 10:36:20 AM
The other one is that Arsenal are going off winning trophies for lent again this year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: deiseach on March 09, 2011, 10:45:09 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 09, 2011, 09:16:54 AM
Can you pur your trivia somewhere else and for the record the Dutch government sits in the The Hague but Amsterdam is the actually capital.

You are correct. The bane of my life, that one
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2011, 10:50:30 AM
A lot of Arsenal fans still blaming the referee. He did make a mistake but for Arsenal to go through it would have been daylight robbery. I know a lot of teams and their supporters couldn't give a damn about that but personally I'd rather see the best footballing side progress. Twenty attempts versus zero attempts is enough for me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 09, 2011, 11:01:56 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on March 09, 2011, 09:51:54 AM
Sore this morning Dinny?

Every morning Billy I'm that age now plus will have to listen to the Arsenal cliches for the next while i.e. 'Bottlers, Soft Underbelly (what ever that is?), chokers, need a centre back, need a goalie etc etc etc....'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Archie Mitchell on March 09, 2011, 11:57:31 AM
The ref did balls up the RVP red card but still wouldn't have made a difference, especially when you look at the stats in bold below.

Were Barca that good or were Arsenal that poor that Arsenal didn't even have a shot at all?

Pure genius from Messi from the goal, and some of the passing play in the 2nd half was out of this world.


Barcelona v Arsenal: The Statistics from F355

* Depending on the method of calculation, Arsenal had somewhere between 24% (Opta) and 32% (UEFA) of possession in the Nou Camp.

* UEFA conclude that Barcelona had the ball for 49' 3" while Arsenal had control for 22' 41'' of the game.

* According to Sky Sports, Barcelona completed 724 passes versus Arsenal's 199.

* According to Opta's figures, Arsenal completed 71% of their passes while Barcelona's completion figure was 90%.

* Barcelona's midfield trio was Javier Mascherano (95 passes, 86% success), Xavi (133 passes, 90% success) and Andres Iniesta (105 passes, 92% success).

* Arsenal's midfield trio was Abou Diaby (24 passes, 88% success), Jack Wilshere (33 passes, 79% success) and Cesc Fabregas (30 passes, 70% success).

* No Arsenal player had a single shot - on, off target or blocked. Seven Barca players had attempts on goal - including both full-backs.

* Barcelona recorded 21 shots - 12 were on target, five off target and the remainder were blocked.

* In his 56 minutes on the pitch Robin van Persie had attempted eight passes.

* The Dutchman had not touched the ball in the opposition penalty area and Opta track his average position as well inside Arsenal's own half of the pitch.


* According to their figures, the only Arsenal player who logged an average position in the opposition half was substitute Andrey Arshavin.

* Arsenal committed 19 fouls to Barcelona's eight. Five of those fouls were attributed to Jack Wilshere.

* Laurent Koscielny has been yellow carded in each of his last three games for Arsenal. He has picked up nine yellows and two reds in total this season.

* Arsenal have scored more goals (21) than any other team in the Champions League this season. But ten teams have had more shots.

* Seven Barcelona players grace the top ten 'total passes' chart for the Champions League this season. Sergio Busquets, Xavi and Iniesta are the top three.

* Arsenal's first entrant on that list is Jack Wilshere down in 17th place - just below FC Copenhagen's William Kvist Jorgensen.

* Abou Diaby has conceded nine goals in his last three Champions League games - all against Barcelona.

* Manuel Almunia has conceded ten goals in the 271 minutes he has played against Barcelona in his career. That's a goal conceded every 27 minute
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Geoff Tipps on March 09, 2011, 12:01:50 PM
Since Opta started analysing every Champions League game in August 2003, Arsenal are the only team ever to record zero shots in a match.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 09, 2011, 12:12:11 PM
Yet for all those damining statistics Arsenal could have won it if Bendtner had scored 3 mins from the end. Sport eh! Although the internet probably would have broken down with the injustice of it all if he had....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on March 09, 2011, 12:33:32 PM
The internet didn't break down with the injustice of Liverpool winning undeservedly (or to be more correct, Milan losing undeservedly) in 2005.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 09, 2011, 12:38:06 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on March 09, 2011, 12:33:32 PM
The internet didn't break down with the injustice of Liverpool winning undeservedly (or to be more correct, Milan losing undeservedly) in 2005.

2001 FA Cup fnal was a greater injustice...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 09, 2011, 12:39:49 PM
Ara get over it lads. 5 v 0 v 0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Bingo on March 09, 2011, 12:41:50 PM
Shite happens lads, get over it.  :D

Can anyone explain what has happened Chamack (sp?)? At start of season he looked very good,  I know LFC supporters regretted not been able to attract him based on his early season form. He looks a totally different player now and rarely gets a look in.

Has he started to struggle with the pace of the premiership or has his confidence been shot to pieces?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 09, 2011, 12:47:19 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 09, 2011, 12:39:49 PM
Ara get over it lads. 5 v 0 v 0


Since we're back in the school yard 21 years and counting AZ even Leeds don't have that long a wait...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 09, 2011, 12:48:41 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 09, 2011, 12:47:19 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 09, 2011, 12:39:49 PM
Ara get over it lads. 5 v 0 v 0


Since we're back in the school yard 21 years and counting AZ even Leeds don't have that long a wait...

I don't think we really want to do the counting thing Dinny. I'd run out of fingers and toes very quickly.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Geoff Tipps on March 09, 2011, 12:48:52 PM
Quote from: Bingo on March 09, 2011, 12:41:50 PM
Shite happens lads, get over it.  :D

Can anyone explain what has happened Chamack (sp?)? At start of season he looked very good,  I know LFC supporters regretted not been able to attract him based on his early season form. He looks a totally different player now and rarely gets a look in.

Has he started to struggle with the pace of the premiership or has his confidence been shot to pieces?

By his own admission he's been feeling tired of late. Modern day footballers eh  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on March 09, 2011, 01:17:25 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 09, 2011, 12:47:19 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 09, 2011, 12:39:49 PM
Ara get over it lads. 5 v 0 v 0


Since we're back in the school yard 21 years and counting AZ even Leeds don't have that long a wait...

Thanks for bringing that up again Dinny!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on March 09, 2011, 02:31:27 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 09, 2011, 12:38:06 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on March 09, 2011, 12:33:32 PM
The internet didn't break down with the injustice of Liverpool winning undeservedly (or to be more correct, Milan losing undeservedly) in 2005.

2001 FA Cup fnal was a greater injustice...

Or the 2005 Cup Final?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 09, 2011, 03:12:02 PM
Quote from: Boycey on March 09, 2011, 02:31:27 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 09, 2011, 12:38:06 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on March 09, 2011, 12:33:32 PM
The internet didn't break down with the injustice of Liverpool winning undeservedly (or to be more correct, Milan losing undeservedly) in 2005.

2001 FA Cup fnal was a greater injustice...

Or the 2005 Cup Final?

Without doubt
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 10, 2011, 11:26:40 PM
This FA Cup game - can remember zero about it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4gXvz9nIy4
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 11, 2011, 02:23:56 PM
This amused me from Football 365

So it is Man U v Arsenal in FA Cup. Arsenal are out of Europe with no game until the following weekend, Man U on the other hand will be playing mid week.

What an ideal opportunity for Arsenal to put one over on Man U, however, unfortunately Chris Foy is referring. So how will the game go, here are my predications:

3 minutes of the game have gone, Arshavin bursts through into the Man U penalty box, he is brought down by last man Rafael. It is a bad tackle, Arshavin stays down, Foy waves play on, Wenger flaps his arms so hard he levitates. Arshavin has to be substituted. Replays show that even Stevie Wonder would have given a penalty and a red card.

5 minutes have gone. Scholes goes right through the back of Nasri, the ball is not even in the frame. Nasri is booked for diving. He manfully caries on for a couple of minutes after treatment but cannot carry on. Air traffic controllers at Manchester Airport are warned of a man in a long sleeping bag hovering near the airport.

8 minutes have gone, a light breeze blows across the Old Trafford pitch, Berbatov is blown over. It is three yards outside the box. Djourou is booked. Rooney has a shot, it is yards wide, Fergie screams, a corner is given. Andy Townsend says how much Rooney reminds him of Maradona/Cruyff/Pele/Best at their peak.

13 minutes. Foy waves away another cast iron Arsenal penalty claim. Wenger enters to stratosphere

17 minutes. Foy waves away another cast iron Arsenal penalty claim. Wenger is clinging to the ITV satellite.

25 minutes. Foul by Clichy on Rooney. Later Wenger claims he did not see it (to be fair he was over Australia at the time).

33 minutes have gone, Gibson shoots from 45 yards out, it hits four different players, takes a bobble and sneaks past Almunia who hasn't even realised he is in goal. "Man U Dave" from Croydon emails F265 to say Man U have found the new Robson/Ince/Hughes/Coppell and that Gibson is the future.

45 minutes. Van Persie is clean through on goal, he rounds the keeper but before the ball crosses the line, Fergie blows the whistle for half time.

Adrian Chiles is woken up by Gareth Southgate, makes some chippy comment about how brilliant WBA are and goes to an advert break.

ITV avoid showing any controversial moments, but focus instead on Rooney's free kick from 9,000 different angles and fail to mention that even though it went nowhere near an Arsenal player, a corner was given.

47 minutes, Scholes goes through the back of Wilshere. Foy waves play on.

48 minutes, Wilshere looks at Scholes. He is booked for offensive gazing.

49 minutes Van Persie is brought down by Smalling 5 yards inside the box. Foy gives a free kick 3 yards outside the book and gives Smalling a good talking to. Showing what a strong ref he is, he makes the Man U wall go back a full 4 yards. Van Persie's shot hits Gigg's upraised arm. Goal kick given.

50 minutes Arsenal are totally dominant. Van Persie finally gets the ball in the net. Foy disallows it for a foul last week by Song.
48 minutes, Wilshere looks at Scholes. He is booked for offensive gazing.

Another 39 minutes of Arsenal dominance follows. Three Arsenal goals are disallowed for off-side/pushing/rudeness/wrong kind of shot

90 minutes Eboue on as a sub, is clean through on goal. Berbatov get blown over by another breeze. From 95 yards away, Foy give Man U a penalty. Wilshere, Van Persie and Almunia are all sent off for complaining (ensuring they miss the next 3 matches Foy makes sure they are all straight red).

Rooney bobbles the pen in off his shin. (It will later be voted goal of the season by Andy Townsend).

Fergie blows for full time.

Rooney is given Man of the Match.

Wenger lands in the Mohave desert.

Fergie breaks his silence to say how Man U dominated and totally deserved to win.

Pat Rice, in the absence of Wenger, says the ref had "a bad game". The FA ban him for life.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 12, 2011, 09:00:38 PM
Nothing shocking in that result, didn't see game but fully expected it.

- The sooner that Ferguson bollox retires the better, from reading the reports he won the tactical battle hands down. He has no peer.
- Wenger's project is at a crisis point, he now needs to deliver the EPL, the faithful are getting disgruntled and if he doesn't deliver he has two options either abandon his utopian dream or move upstairs. The concern is not the fans or board but I'm starting to sense the players are losing faith in Arsene. Next few weeks will tell the tale....

On a positive great to see Ramsey back and hopefully Djourou isn't too injured.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 12, 2011, 09:03:35 PM
Wenger on  Djourou - "dislocated shoulder, season over."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 12, 2011, 09:10:16 PM
Only saw last 10 mins cos of the rugby.

The onetuple is still on. Badly miss the first teamers of Walcott, Cesc, Song, Clichy, Chesney and Vermaelan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 12, 2011, 09:11:16 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 12, 2011, 09:03:35 PM
Wenger on  Djourou - "dislocated shoulder, season over."

FFS, is there an unluckier side than Arsenal  >:(

Thank god they have Squillaci to call upon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on March 14, 2011, 04:50:45 PM
Lehmann making a comeback?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/mar/14/jens-lehmann-arsenal-talks
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on March 14, 2011, 06:28:20 PM
Quote from: paco on March 14, 2011, 04:50:45 PM
Lehmann making a comeback?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/mar/14/jens-lehmann-arsenal-talks

lol now that would be some craic.

Great keeper.

Clean nutter but.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on March 14, 2011, 11:14:15 PM
Lehmann you're having a laugh?

Are Arsenal as broke as Everton despite this new stadium? Could have had Mark Schwarzer for £3m last summer but wouldn't pay it.

Sol Campbell last year. Is Perry Groves still palying 5 a side somehwere? Maybe he could do a job for the rest of the season?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 15, 2011, 11:00:42 AM
Djourou injury not as bad as first thought, hopes to play again this month, according to BBC.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 15, 2011, 02:30:41 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 15, 2011, 11:00:42 AM
Djourou injury not as bad as first thought, hopes to play again this month, according to BBC.

Probably in goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2011, 02:23:21 PM
Almunia;
Sagna, Koscielny, Squillaci, Clichy;
Nasri, Denilson, Wilshere, Ramsey, Arshavin;
van Persie.

Ramsey the big news.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2011, 03:08:01 PM
1-0 down after 3 mins. Ramsey sleeping for a corner. Reid scores.

That's the stuff indeed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2011, 03:33:18 PM
Similiar pattern to recent weeks. Pass, pass, pass, pass. Van Persie hit the bar and Ramsey missed with the rebound (straight at keeper) from 5 yards. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2011, 03:49:54 PM
Arsenal are 10/3 to win the match, is it possible?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2011, 03:52:42 PM
Possible yes as they're attacking flat out. But....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on March 19, 2011, 03:56:31 PM
Any links to the game?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2011, 04:07:56 PM
HT Stats

WBA v Arsenal
Shots 1-5
On target 1-2
Fouls 3-3
Duels Won 46%-54%
Passing accuracy 67%-86%
Possession 26%-74%

Links - http://www.thefoottv.com/ch4.html
http://atdhenet.tv/35903/watch-west-bromwich-vs-arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on March 19, 2011, 04:13:54 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on March 19, 2011, 03:56:31 PM
Any links to the game?

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sat19.3/WestBrom_Arsenal.php
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2011, 04:16:50 PM
Should've been 2-0 WBA.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2011, 04:19:52 PM
It is now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2011, 04:21:02 PM
Another Almunia fcuk up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2011, 04:23:11 PM
That's unbelievable. Almunia looks as if he wants the rope. Lehmann smirking.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2011, 04:33:52 PM
2-1. Arshavin just leathered it. 72 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2011, 04:40:19 PM
2-2. RVP.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2011, 04:48:19 PM
Here's Almunia's moment of glory - http://arsenalist.com/video/?id=xhpop0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2011, 04:58:15 PM
2-2 FT.

Almunia coats Arsenal 2 points. No real change though. Still need to beat Utd.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on March 19, 2011, 04:59:44 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 19, 2011, 04:48:19 PM
Here's Almunia's moment of glory - http://arsenalist.com/video/?id=xhpop0

thats dreadful stuff
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 19, 2011, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 19, 2011, 04:40:19 PM
2-2. RVP.

BBC had it down for Meite og?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on March 19, 2011, 05:07:34 PM
Quote from: ross4life on March 19, 2011, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 19, 2011, 04:40:19 PM
2-2. RVP.

BBC had it down for Meite og?

Arsenal dont have what it takes to win the league, they are brittle at the business end of every season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on March 19, 2011, 11:17:26 PM
If Arsenal are broke, they should bring in Richard Dunne for next to nothing in the summer and put him on the slim fast diet

At least he would take man and ball and prevent these shiity type of goals Arsenal keep conceding.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on March 19, 2011, 11:29:10 PM
Arsenal are doing my f**king head in.

Same shit year after year

This time of the year and they fcuk up away to some mid table team

Anyone want my red membership?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 20, 2011, 01:22:35 PM
Positives

- comeback just before international break will revitalise mental fortitude
- Fabregas, Walcott and Song should return to energise squad
- Maintains unbeaten record
- People will be quick to write off Arsenal rolling out the usual cliches so alleviating any possible media pressure
- Win all their remaining games they'll win the title, so nothing has changed

Negative

- Almunia the fish - impossible to see Arsenal win anything with him the side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 29, 2011, 09:08:11 PM
I hear RVP got injured tonight again! Not sure though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 29, 2011, 09:12:36 PM
Subbed at HT. Wouldn't surprise me though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 29, 2011, 09:45:32 PM
They should sign up his son (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OV5eUBVl7V0) who might be better than Bendtner right now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 29, 2011, 10:20:18 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 29, 2011, 09:45:32 PM
They should sign up his son (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OV5eUBVl7V0) who might be better than Bendtner right now.

This girl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Oxp1dbKcHA&feature=related) is better than Bendtner.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 29, 2011, 10:47:35 PM
VP seems alright.

Best Bendtner goal ever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40tdzKEFY7A&feature=related)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2011, 12:24:09 PM
Dicks.

Is all.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 03, 2011, 12:34:37 PM
All I need now is Kildare to lose to wrap up a truly shit weekend sport wise.

The most unfathomable thing is that Man United squad is probably the worst squad ever to win the EPL just goes to show how we over rate the Arsenal squad. No Vidic's, Evra's, Giggs. Schole's, Rooney's no leaders period. Good enough to qualify for UCL and eh that's it.....summer will be interesting...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 03, 2011, 01:06:05 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 03, 2011, 12:34:37 PM
All I need now is Kildare to lose to wrap up a truly shit weekend sport wise.

The most unfathomable thing is that Man United squad is probably the worst squad ever to win the EPL just goes to show how we over rate the Arsenal squad. No Vidic's, Evra's, Giggs. Schole's, Rooney's no leaders period. Good enough to qualify for UCL and eh that's it.....summer will be interesting...

Yea but Almunia and Lehman are there. I'd rather Pat Jennings came out of retirement.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 09, 2011, 12:40:31 AM
Wenger hits out against 'superficial judgment

By Chris Harris

Arsène Wenger is fighting back against the "superficial judgment" that has been passed down on his team this week.

Arsenal's 0-0 draw with Blackburn last weekend left them seven points adrift of Manchester United in the title race - albeit with a game in hand - and deepened the gloom that set in among fans after cup defeats to Birmingham, Barcelona and United.

But the media coverage of Arsenal's so-called 'disastrous' predicament bothers Wenger and he put his point across strongly when he faced reporters at Friday's pre-match press conference.

"I'm against superficial judgment, that's what I fight against," said the manager.

"For example people ask 'why don't you buy central defenders?'. We have a better defence than Man United if you look at the numbers, but nobody mentions that. And should we kick Vermaelen, Djourou and Szczesny out? What for?

"We've done well for our age as we're second in the league. Is that a disaster for you? There are teams who invest ten times more than us, one player cost more than the whole team and they're behind us. I don't understand the way people think.

"Do you judge this season or the last four seasons? Some of the clubs behind us have done nothing for 20 years, yet suddenly they get a lot of praise. I don't understand.

"We have eight games to go and are in a position to fight for the championship so let's give the maximum. If we're disappointed at the end then OK. Why do you say it's a disaster when we're second in the league? Do the 18 clubs behind us have a fantastic disaster?

"Trophies are one way to judge a club. They're not overrated as it allows you to say you've won a trophy, but would you swap winning the FA Cup for playing in the Champions League? Is it a trophy or not to be in the Champions League? Is it more important to win the FA Cup?

"We do as well as we can, and if it's not good enough it's not good enough. But what I deny is that everything is suddenly negative. We've built this club. Look at the players in this team I'll speak to you in ten years."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 09, 2011, 08:20:18 AM
Oh do shut up Arsene, no matter how legitimate your argument it will be portrayed as a whinge in the media about feeble excuses.

My own only fear is that Wenger is prepared to go 20 years without winning a trophy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 09, 2011, 03:11:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 09, 2011, 08:20:18 AM
Oh do shut up Arsene, no matter how legitimate your argument it will be portrayed as a whinge in the media about feeble excuses.

My own only fear is that Wenger is prepared to go 20 years without winning a trophy.

FFS even Mayo will win something before that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 09, 2011, 03:19:48 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 09, 2011, 03:11:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 09, 2011, 08:20:18 AM
Oh do shut up Arsene, no matter how legitimate your argument it will be portrayed as a whinge in the media about feeble excuses.

My own only fear is that Wenger is prepared to go 20 years without winning a trophy.

FFS even Mayo will win something before that.

aye right  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on April 09, 2011, 09:38:45 PM
be thankfull with second  ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 10, 2011, 11:01:53 PM
Good News/Bad News?

Stan Kroenke is poised to launch a full takeover of Arsenal after agreeing deals to buy shares owned by Danny Fiszman and Lady Nina Bracewell Smith.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/default.stm
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 10, 2011, 11:04:00 PM
Keeping an eye on this over the last 2 hours.

He seems well respected.

http://twitter.com/timpayton
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 11, 2011, 01:47:24 PM
A Sad Day I think

QuoteEnglish Premier League soccer club Arsenal said this morning that
it has agreed to be taken over by American billionaire Stan
Kroenke in a deal which would value the club at UK£ 731m.

Kroenke, who already owns close to 30 pc of the North London club,
said he had offered Arsenal shareholders UK£ 11.75 per share and
had already secured the backing of 16.1 pc shareholder Danny
Fiszman and 15.9 pc shareholder Nina Bracewell-Smith.

Kroenke, who owns several major sports teams in the United States,
now controls 63 pc of the club, which currently lies second in the
league behind rivals Manchester United.

"Arsenal is a fantastic club with a special history and tradition
and a wonderful manager in Arsene Wenger. We intend to build on
this rich heritage and take the club to new success," Kroenke said
in a statement.

Arsenal have gone six years without a trophy since their FA Cup
success in 2005 and fans have been frustrated as their spending on
players lagged behind rivals such as Chelsea and Manchester City.

Manager Wenger welcomed the takeover.

"I have worked with Stan Kroenke at board meetings over the past
couple of years and I believe he has the best interests of Arsenal
at heart. He understands the club's heritage and traditions and
our ambition to run the club in a way which protects our long term
future," he said.

Under Takeover Panel rules, Kroenke is now compelled to make an
offer for the remaining shares.

Russian steel magnate Alisher Usmanov is Arsenal's other major
shareholder, holding a 27 pc stake through his Red and White
vehicle.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 11, 2011, 02:38:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 11, 2011, 01:47:24 PM
A Sad Day I think

Agreed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on April 11, 2011, 04:33:17 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 11, 2011, 02:38:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 11, 2011, 01:47:24 PM
A Sad Day I think

Agreed.

So Arsenal will become another Man City,Chelsea?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 11, 2011, 04:44:32 PM
Not a big deal really, this fella has been part of the club for years.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 11, 2011, 04:57:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 11, 2011, 04:44:32 PM
Not a big deal really, this fella has been part of the club for years.

Now he is the club.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 11, 2011, 05:18:52 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 11, 2011, 04:57:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 11, 2011, 04:44:32 PM
Not a big deal really, this fella has been part of the club for years.

Now he is the club.

He's not. I cannot see anything changing apart from maybe a more astute marketing side. Arsenal are not a Utd who let someone waltz in and throw debt into the club. Silent Stan has been part of the furniture there for years. Any of his soundbites over the years have been supportive of the status quo. I never really took to the Russian fellow. I'd imagine the club have encouraged those who sold to Kroenke to do so for the same reason. Whether the Russian sells the rest remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 11, 2011, 05:25:23 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 11, 2011, 05:18:52 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 11, 2011, 04:57:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 11, 2011, 04:44:32 PM
Not a big deal really, this fella has been part of the club for years.

Now he is the club.

He's not. I cannot see anything changing apart from maybe a more astute marketing side. Arsenal are not a Utd who let someone waltz in and throw debt into the club. Silent Stan has been part of the furniture there for years. Any of his soundbites over the years have been supportive of the status quo. I never really took to the Russian fellow. I'd imagine the club have encouraged those who sold to Kroenke to do so for the same reason. Whether the Russian sells the rest remains to be seen.

He has been on the Board for 3 years and around for 4.

If he gets sole ownership of the club it is his baby. Up to now the ownership structure of Arsenal has ensured its stability, now it will be reliant on one man for stability. He may be rock solid but all the eggs are in one basket. If he makes a mistake (Sean Quinn?) who knows what the future might hold.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 11, 2011, 05:36:34 PM
What is crucial here is that Stan has bit by bit taken over the club by winning the trust of the major shareholders (some of whom were totally against him at the start) reassuring them that he will continue to run the club in a financially self-sustaining model.

I know it's a wait and see element but I don't think you'll see any change atall. Wenger will still try to scour Bulgaria for a 16-year old left back.

As a few have stated, this 'foreign ownership' is a laugh. Arsenal have been over 50% foreign owned for a good while now, as well as having a foreign manager and employing mostly foreign footballers with a foreign sponsored stadium.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 11, 2011, 05:45:38 PM
But it will be the first single owner in 80 years and in those previous 80 years the share holders never cared about profit....you think Stan is in it for the love of the club?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on April 11, 2011, 11:38:10 PM
just read the statement on the club website. board is remaining the same, and the club is not being used to secure the debt ala man u and liverpool. so imho it is a good thing for the club. I have a feeling that we might see David Dein back as well. Wasn't he all for getting him on the board when he was at arsenal. Wenger and Dein had a great relationship in dealing with transfers and contracts so hopefully this will mean bigger transfer budget and holding on to what we have - except bentner and arshavin and allmunia and clichy they can all get their coats now!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 12, 2011, 12:35:42 AM
I don't think there'll be any change at all. Kroenke has never been a spender.

Q Will Kroenke be borrowing large amounts to buy the club and saddling it with a huge debt, like the Glazers at Manchester United?

A Arsenal say not. In their statement, in which they recommend that shareholders take up Kroenke's offer of £11,750 per share, the board said: "Kroenke Sports Enterprises [the purchasing vehicle] has stated that the offer will not be funded by debt finance secured against the club." Kroenke's deal values Arsenal at £731m, which means he has to find around £500m in cash if he is to buy up all the remaining shares. His fortune is estimated at £1.77bn, made through real estate and constructing shopping centres, and business developments, so he is not short of cash. His firm KSE own the St Louis Rams NFL team, NBA basketball franchise, the Denver Nuggets, the Colorado Avalanche NHL ice hockey team and Major League Soccer side the Colorado Rapids.

Q Will Usmanov now decide to sell his shares?

A Not just yet. He was reported yesterday to be furious that the other large shareholders were selling to Kroenke and was disappointed that the Arsenal board had recommended others did the same with their shares.

Q So how has Kroenke gone from the "wrong sort" to a "safe custodian"?

A When Kroenke first bought 9.9 per cent of the club in 2007, Arsenal chairman Peter Hill-Wood said of 'Silent Stan': "Call me old-fashioned but we don't need his money and don't need his sort. He knows sweet FA about our football." Yesterday, Mr Hill-Wood said: "We are confident that he will be a safe custodian of its [Arsenal's] future," in reference to the man who has agreed to give him £4.7m for his 400 Arsenal shares.

Q Will the change of ownership make any real difference?

A Not too much on the face of it. Arsenal have effectively been in foreign hands for the past four years, and nothing drastic has happened. And Usmanov still owns 27 per cent of the club and as such can prevent any major structural changes to the company. However, Kroenke will have the power to appoint a new manager, or new directors, as he likes. In his other sporting clubs, Kroenke has been a supportive owner, so it is unlikely he will sack Wenger, bring in Jose Mourinho, and order a £200m splurge on new players. There will undoubtedly be changes. A more aggressive marketing strategy is likely, with a focus firmly on the Far East. Wenger has managed to resist the club's desire to tour Asia, but it is a losing battle and they are heading to Malaysia this summer, after a trip to Japan was cancelled following the tsunami. There will be money available to buy players, but that has been the case for years at Arsenal – it's just that Wenger refuses to spend it. Kroenke is well aware of the Arsenal way of nurturing young talent and is not expected to start changing the club's transfer policy.

Q So will he be able to end six years without a trophy?

A He certainly thinks so. Kroenke said yesterday: "Arsenal is a fantastic club with a special history and tradition and a wonderful manager in Arsène Wenger. We intend to build on this rich heritage and take the club to new success." But he is no Roman Abramovich – he is not about to plough his personal fortune into the club. His policy will be to allow Arsenal to continue to the self-sustaining strategy of the previous regime. Money, however, will be there for a couple of new players in the summer, and Kroenke does have an excellent record of delivering trophies in American sports.

Q Isn't Kroenke a close friend of former Arsenal vice-chairman David Dein? Will Dein be returning to the board?

A Dein did indeed give Kroenke his backing in 2007, recommending a takeover of the club which resulted in Dein falling out with board members and losing his job. Although Dein later that year sold his 14.6 per cent stake of the club to Usmanov for £75m, he is still close to Kroenke and a return to The Emirates cannot be ruled out.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 17, 2011, 06:23:21 PM
Good for Arsenal to keep the unbeaten record going.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 17, 2011, 06:27:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 17, 2011, 06:23:21 PM
Good for Arsenal to keep the unbeaten record going.

That's a bit of a sickener for the Gooners. I can understand how Wenger must be absoloutely fuming, but it was clumsy by Eboue.

Maybe the pressure is off Arsenal now though. United are not great, by their standards, so maybe there will be a couple of slips and twists between now and then.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 17, 2011, 06:32:07 PM
(http://i52.tinypic.com/28sbzpi.jpg)


In case you haven't seen it :P 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 17, 2011, 06:35:33 PM
I'd say Wenger was fuming out of frustration - frustrated in the immediate that the ref didn't blow for full-time once the free-kick was blocker, frustrated that Arsenal couldn't hold the lead for 2 mins and and also the fact that Liverpool were time wasting towards the end but they received the benefit, always an anomaly that one. But over all I'd say deep down he knew that was the last chance, cannot see Man United dropping 7 points.

Daglish did what any sane person would do and told Wenger to piss off, doubt either manager will give it a 2nd thought.

The league final defeat has left a bad hang-over on this Arsenal side and I can't see any seeds of recovery as their form since has been very poor. They might never recover.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 17, 2011, 08:15:40 PM
Dinny, O'Neill et al, 6 years, no trophies and let's face it no real sense that they can close the gap to the top, has Wenger maybe gone as far as he can? Seriously doubt any other manager in the top 6 would last that long and while he is not necessarily a big spender, he still has spent a fair bit of money.  Maybe time to get a fresh face, Pep will be free and I reckon could do something with Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on April 17, 2011, 08:27:25 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 17, 2011, 08:15:40 PM
Dinny, O'Neill et al, 6 years, no trophies and let's face it no real sense that they can close the gap to the top, has Wenger maybe gone as far as he can? Seriously doubt any other manager in the top 6 would last that long and while he is not necessarily a big spender, he still has spent a fair bit of money.  Maybe time to get a fresh face, Pep will be free and I reckon could do something with Arsenal.

Pep will definitely not be free. Pure contract negotiations.
Arsenal would be foolish to get rid of Wenger and I'm certain they won't. He does need to have a long hard look at his transfer policies though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 17, 2011, 08:46:46 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 17, 2011, 08:15:40 PM
Dinny, O'Neill et al, 6 years, no trophies and let's face it no real sense that they can close the gap to the top, has Wenger maybe gone as far as he can? Seriously doubt any other manager in the top 6 would last that long and while he is not necessarily a big spender, he still has spent a fair bit of money.  Maybe time to get a fresh face, Pep will be free and I reckon could do something with Arsenal.

I think Exiled Gael has touched the crux of the issue not necessarily his transfer policy but his overall policy. He'll argue that he has closed the gap, in all inevitability with the pressure off Arsenal will finish 2nd (important in its self in that it allows for a longer off-season and reduces the work-load by 2 games). But we have spoken about it on this thread before the history of Arsenal football generally shows a great loyalty to managers and Arsenal have always won trophies in clusters, a couple or so every decade. What I expect from Arsenal FC is a good attitude on and off the pitch and I think that the last couple of seasons Arsenal's attitdue on the pitch hasn't been good enough and there is a distinct lack of leadership. Wenger is at fault here as this is the culture he has created by selling experience and trusting youth.

Personally what I would like to see from Wenger is an acceptance that his 'project' has failed, impossible to keep up with Manchester and Chelsea by putting your faith in youth and youth alone.  Pep who is a disciple of Wenger, did the overseas component of his UEFA badges at Arsenal, would be an alternative one of the few but as it stands Wenger isn't a million miles away and deserves a chance to make the personnel changes that could make it happen.

It's very frustrating and playing at home in from of nervous fans can not be good for the mental side of any young footballer, they were like deer in headlights during those closing minutes.  Arsenal need someone like Fellani in midfield and a Drogba up front, TV will provide leadership in the defence, so a midfield enforcer, an experience top striker and a couple of utility players ala Park and Fletcher for Man United.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 17, 2011, 09:25:13 PM
Dinny, awfully pissed off after that. Forget winning the league or pressurising Utd, that match is the new nadir for that squad. f**king Eboue.

From the first minute to the 97th, Arsenal played no more like a team going for the title than Barnet. It has been like that since the CC final in Feb. f**king Eboue.

Then they get a stroke of luck. Van Persie, who did feck all beforehand, celebrates as if he has rescued the side. Any other team would have being thinking, 'right, just get the ball into the corner and run down the clock'. Arsenal feck about, give away a dangerous free and then, f**king Eboue.

It's not Eboue's fault. It's not Almunia's fault. Wenger picks them. I'd have Wenger as manager until he croaks it but as you say, it's time to bite the bullet and buy ready made talent.

Too many spineless, ball-lacking fruits to win anything of note. Fabregas may have looked resigned before the penalty equalizer but where was he during the game?

f**king Eboue.

Where's the plum poteen?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballinaman on April 17, 2011, 09:36:48 PM
Don't blame it on Henry,
Don't blame it on the injuries,
Don't blame it on the referees,
Blame it on Eboue...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2011, 09:43:10 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 17, 2011, 06:35:33 PM
I'd say Wenger was fuming out of frustration - frustrated in the immediate that the ref didn't blow for full-time once the free-kick was blocker, frustrated that Arsenal couldn't hold the lead for 2 mins and and also the fact that Liverpool were time wasting towards the end but they received the benefit, always an anomaly that one. But over all I'd say deep down he knew that was the last chance, cannot see Man United dropping 7 points.

Daglish did what any sane person would do and told Wenger to piss off, doubt either manager will give it a 2nd thought.

The league final defeat has left a bad hang-over on this Arsenal side and I can't see any seeds of recovery as their form since has been very poor. They might never recover.

Aye but will he get a two match ban for swearing on tv?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on April 17, 2011, 09:46:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2011, 09:43:10 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 17, 2011, 06:35:33 PM
I'd say Wenger was fuming out of frustration - frustrated in the immediate that the ref didn't blow for full-time once the free-kick was blocker, frustrated that Arsenal couldn't hold the lead for 2 mins and and also the fact that Liverpool were time wasting towards the end but they received the benefit, always an anomaly that one. But over all I'd say deep down he knew that was the last chance, cannot see Man United dropping 7 points.

Daglish did what any sane person would do and told Wenger to piss off, doubt either manager will give it a 2nd thought.

The league final defeat has left a bad hang-over on this Arsenal side and I can't see any seeds of recovery as their form since has been very poor. They might never recover.

Aye but will he get a two match ban for swearing on tv?

Mild swearing caught by a camera or intentionally walking up to a camera and swearing?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 17, 2011, 09:58:05 PM
Is there a team more calamitious than Arsenal? The c**k-up in the CC Final. The Almunia blunders, too many to mention. Fabianski last year. Bender blocking his own player's shot. Fcuk me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 17, 2011, 10:00:51 PM
I might add I concur f**king Eboue
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 17, 2011, 10:08:29 PM
When you're sat in Row Z
and the ball hits your head
That's Eboue!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 17, 2011, 10:37:37 PM
Arsène Wenger is angry with everyone, but only Arsenal are to blame

Once again the Arsenal manager blamed everybody but himself and his players for some very familiar failings

If this truly was the day that Arsène Wenger's Premier League title dream died for another season, then the abiding images will be of the Arsenal manager towering above the three match officials at full-time, as he berated them for the award of the late penalty that brought his team to their knees.

The ironies were plentiful. Dirk Kuyt's successful penalty for Liverpool saw their bitter rivals, Manchester United, clamp one hand upon a record 19th championship win. In the directors' box, Sir Alex Ferguson might have cursed Arsenal's goal, Robin van Persie's penalty coming in the eighth minute of the time added on for Jamie Carragher's head injury. Yet Fergie-time would come back around for him. Kuyt's goal was timed at 102 minutes.

Up the road at Wembley, Stoke City, a team that Wenger has in the past derided for their "rugby tactics", stuck five goals past Bolton to set up an FA Cup final against Manchester City, another team whose ethics Wenger has questioned. One of them will enjoy a silver-lined finish to the season. Despite what Wenger perceives as Arsenal's superior brand of football, his side will surely not.

Wenger burned with a sense of injustice. For him, there was rage and frustration, a familiar cocktail in what has been a relentlessly trying season and as he lashed out at a variety of targets he projected a certain helplessness too. He lambasted the referee, Andre Marriner, not only for the penalty decision against Emmanuel Eboué but also his time-keeping. Kenny Dalglish got it as well, for having the temerity to set up his Liverpool team in a defensive vein. It was a familiar lament. Why can't visiting teams simply lay themselves open for Arsenal to take apart?

The unpalatable truth was that Arsenal had let themselves down. This was a third successive home draw in the league and with Wenger having outlined the imperative of a victory to keep their title hopes alive, the last thing he wanted was to see his players so flat and so lifeless. All of his creative talents endured afternoons to forget and only the most blinkered of Arsenal fans could have argued that the opening goal had been coming, although Van Persie did blow his team's best chance of the second half in the 85th minute.

Arsenal looked laboured and one-paced and this felt like one battle too far for tired legs. The penalty that Arsenal got for Jay Spearing's nibble at the back of Cesc Fábregas felt like a lifeline out of the blue. Yet it would be dramatically cut off.

Liverpool's comfort for most of the afternoon was depressing from an Arsenal point of view and Wenger's players seemed to run out of ideas. They had flickered in the first half and they will wonder what might have happened if Laurent Koscielny's 16th-minute header had been six inches lower. But one of the damning indictments against them was that in the second half, despite the home team hogging possession, Liverpool had the better chances, through Luis Suárez.

Liverpool finished the game with three teenagers on the pitch - the rookie full-backs John Flanagan and Jack Robinson emerged with honours - and having lost Fabio Aurelio, Carragher and Andy Carroll to injuries of varying severity. When they conceded so late, the game looked up and so it was not surprising to hear Dalglish praise the character of his players.

Arsenal had been charged with breaking down a Liverpool team whose back four and defensive midfielders rarely got ahead of the ball. Dalglish prized the solidity that his protectors provided even when Arsenal broke, for example, in first-half injury-time with four fliers, they were immediately out-numbered. It was a theme of the afternoon. Curiously, for such an attack-minded side, Arsenal struggled to get bodies into the box. Their final ball was repeatedly dreadful.

It had been a momentous week for the club, with Stan Kroenke's takeover and the death of Danny Fiszman. The Arsenal players' black armbands were as much for the visionary director as the victims of the Hillsborough tragedy. Kroenke was in the directors' box; he missed his Denver Nuggets in NBA play-off action for the first time and he might have squirmed with every other Gooner.

And so to Tottenham on Wednesday, the scene of the last rites on Arsenal's challenge last season. It feels as though they have already been read this time.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/apr/17/arsene-wenger-arsenal-liverpool-emirates?utm
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 17, 2011, 11:50:15 PM
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2e50588.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 17, 2011, 11:54:28 PM
Ha!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 18, 2011, 11:28:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYYH1A2FmEk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYYH1A2FmEk)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 20, 2011, 05:41:49 PM
I have my airbag installed for tonights game against the Spuds

(http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/rjo1262l.jpg)
Title: Re: the united ireland referendum
Post by: screenmachine on April 20, 2011, 08:33:41 PM
It's ding dong...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 20, 2011, 08:34:17 PM
If Arsenal were 5-0 up with three minutes left and the opposition were down to 8 men it'd finish 5-5.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 20, 2011, 09:18:13 PM
i wonder who's fault that will be. Surely he couldnt blame his own goalie !
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 20, 2011, 09:20:34 PM
What a game. Say what you like about the Arsenal, but they are some entertainment, on both ends of the field. I can't imagine being a fan though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on April 20, 2011, 09:22:41 PM
One of the games of the season! both sides going for the win & it could indeed finish 5-5
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 20, 2011, 09:23:22 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 20, 2011, 09:20:34 PM
What a game. Say what you like about the Arsenal, but they are some entertainment, on both ends of the field. I can't imagine being a fan though.

any fans who are in their forties or over with dodgy tickers must go through the mill in 90 minutes watching them !
are you still with us muppet old mate ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on April 20, 2011, 09:26:46 PM
Fecking Ray Wilkins... last week it was "stay on your feet" and this week it's "stand up" I can't listen to much more of this so I may turn off the volume! Some game though!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 20, 2011, 09:28:45 PM
Is that Clive Allen on the Spurs bench? He was a good one. Remember that season in 1987 (I think) when he score 49 goals or something like that?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on April 20, 2011, 09:34:25 PM
Quote from: screenexile on April 20, 2011, 09:26:46 PM
Fecking Ray Wilkins... last week it was "stay on your feet" and this week it's "stand up" I can't listen to much more of this so I may turn off the volume! Some game though!!!!

Aye but not easy for "Crouchie" to stand up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 20, 2011, 09:47:26 PM
Chelsea right back in it. They beat Utd, Arsenal turn over Utd and it's some final day of the season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on April 20, 2011, 09:48:45 PM
Spurs should have won there tonight!!  ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 20, 2011, 09:52:33 PM
In fairness I thought that was a good effort from the Goons and a draw was a fair result. Spurs looked fresher at the end, great away record this season, RVP was on-side for the disallowed goal but it looked Gomes had stopped.

And you have idiots on here whinging about Wenger (non Arsenal fans), they don't know how good they have it with him around, where would you get entertainment like that.....if the EPL was a soap opera Wenger would be Bet Lynch....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 20, 2011, 09:57:37 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 20, 2011, 09:52:33 PM
In fairness I thought that was a good effort from the Goons and a draw was a fair result. Spurs looked fresher at the end, great away record this season, RVP was on-side for the disallowed goal but it looked Gomes had stopped.

And you have idiots on here whinging about Wenger (non Arsenal fans), they don't know how good they have it with him around, where would you get entertainment like that.....if the EPL was a soap opera Wenger would be Bet Lynch....

tits wouldn't be as big
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on April 20, 2011, 10:05:52 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 20, 2011, 09:47:26 PM
Chelsea right back in it. They beat Utd, Arsenal turn over Utd and it's some final day of the season.

Yep not so long ago Chelsea were 15 pts behind United (now only 6).. i always fancied Chelsea to finish ahead of Arsenal & it looks very likely now.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on April 20, 2011, 10:57:29 PM
QuoteYep not so long ago Chelsea were 15 pts behind United (now only 6)..

Yes  but they always had a game or two in hand.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Bingo on April 21, 2011, 11:42:36 AM
1-0 up at Sunderland - Bent equalises in the 95th minute = 2 points dropped
2-0 up v Spurs at HT - lose 3-2 = 3 points dropped
2-1 up at Wigan (down to 10 men) - own goal with 9 mins left brings it back to 2-2 = 2 points dropped
4-0 up at HT v Newcastle - somehow let it slip to 4-4 = 2 points dropped
1-0 up v Liverpool in the 98th minute - give away a pen = 2 points dropped
3-1 up v Spurs just before HT, let it back to 3-3 = 2 points dropped

I know all teams lose leads but this is amazing stats for Arsenals season, ignoring the League cup final as well. It also ignores a couple of poor 0-0 at home results.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2011, 12:02:00 PM
If you look at that is isiolation and when you add in all the decisions that went in Man Uniteds favour it's easy to see why Wenger should be placed on suicide watch as Aresnal could conceivably be 10 points clear at the top. But that is the vagaries of sport and impossible to rationalise, for example if Arsenal had won at Sunderland the dynamic of their whole season probably would have changed and none of the subsequent results would have stayed the same, they might have won a couple more but could have lost some tight ones as well.

In essence in sport nothing is black and white and in EPL terms all that matters is the final league table and this season a team epitomising the concept 'sum of the whole is greater than the parts' will win the league. A young side like Arsenal should look and learn from that alas I wouldn't put money on it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Bingo on April 21, 2011, 12:09:13 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2011, 12:02:00 PM
If you look at that is isiolation and when you add in all the decisions that went in Man Uniteds favour it's easy to see why Wenger should be placed on suicide watch as Aresnal could conceivably be 10 points clear at the top. But that is the vagaries of sport and impossible to rationalise, for example if Arsenal had won at Sunderland the dynamic of their whole season probably would have changed and none of the subsequent results would have stayed the same, they might have won a couple more but could have lost some tight ones as well.

In essence in sport nothing is black and white and in EPL terms all that matters is the final league table and this season a team epitomising the concept 'sum of the whole is greater than the parts' will win the league. A young side like Arsenal should look and learn from that alas I wouldn't put money on it.

But those this highlighted bit hold water anymore? This arsenal side has been around a while now and all have grown from young players to regular EPL players with CL and internantional experience.

I defo wouldn't class them as a young side who will deliver in the future, that ship has sailed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 21, 2011, 12:09:44 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 20, 2011, 09:23:22 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 20, 2011, 09:20:34 PM
What a game. Say what you like about the Arsenal, but they are some entertainment, on both ends of the field. I can't imagine being a fan though.

any fans who are in their forties or over with dodgy tickers must go through the mill in 90 minutes watching them !
are you still with us muppet old mate ?


Balloons!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2011, 12:28:29 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 21, 2011, 12:09:13 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2011, 12:02:00 PM
If you look at that is isiolation and when you add in all the decisions that went in Man Uniteds favour it's easy to see why Wenger should be placed on suicide watch as Aresnal could conceivably be 10 points clear at the top. But that is the vagaries of sport and impossible to rationalise, for example if Arsenal had won at Sunderland the dynamic of their whole season probably would have changed and none of the subsequent results would have stayed the same, they might have won a couple more but could have lost some tight ones as well.

In essence in sport nothing is black and white and in EPL terms all that matters is the final league table and this season a team epitomising the concept 'sum of the whole is greater than the parts' will win the league. A young side like Arsenal should look and learn from that alas I wouldn't put money on it.

But those this highlighted bit hold water anymore? This arsenal side has been around a while now and all have grown from young players to regular EPL players with CL and internantional experience.

I defo wouldn't class them as a young side who will deliver in the future, that ship has sailed.

Chesney Hawkes is 21, Koscielny is 25, Clichy is 25, Djourou is 24, Song, Nasri and Fabregas all 23 and Wlacott 22. Whilshere is only 19 ffs.  Are they not all young men forget about their football experience as adults you only peak physically around 26/27 and mentally they are all young boys still.

For example the champions elect's youngest guranteed starter when all fit and available is Nani who turns 25 this year, even the little Mexican diver is 23 this year. 

So yes are Arsenal are a young side, no one is offering excuses we'll leave that to the Tabloids and the blogs but to deny Arsenal are a young is that they can't learn from defeat is just wrong in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 21, 2011, 12:30:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2011, 12:28:29 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 21, 2011, 12:09:13 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2011, 12:02:00 PM
If you look at that is isiolation and when you add in all the decisions that went in Man Uniteds favour it's easy to see why Wenger should be placed on suicide watch as Aresnal could conceivably be 10 points clear at the top. But that is the vagaries of sport and impossible to rationalise, for example if Arsenal had won at Sunderland the dynamic of their whole season probably would have changed and none of the subsequent results would have stayed the same, they might have won a couple more but could have lost some tight ones as well.

In essence in sport nothing is black and white and in EPL terms all that matters is the final league table and this season a team epitomising the concept 'sum of the whole is greater than the parts' will win the league. A young side like Arsenal should look and learn from that alas I wouldn't put money on it.

But those this highlighted bit hold water anymore? This arsenal side has been around a while now and all have grown from young players to regular EPL players with CL and internantional experience.

I defo wouldn't class them as a young side who will deliver in the future, that ship has sailed.

Chesney Hawkes is 21, Koscielny is 25, Clichy is 25, Djourou is 24, Song, Nasri and Fabregas all 23 and Wlacott 22. Whilshere is only 19 ffs.  Are they not all young men forget about their football experience as adults you only peak physically around 26/27 and mentally they are all young boys still.

For example the champions elect's youngest guranteed starter when all fit and available is Nani who turns 25 this year, even the little Mexican diver is 23 this year. 

So yes are Arsenal are a young side, no one is offering excuses we'll leave that to the Tabloids and the blogs but to deny Arsenal are a young is that they can't learn from defeat is just wrong in my opinion.

Yes but it would be nice if they grew up before I grow old and die.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2011, 12:37:14 PM
Muppet alas you will die wondering...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on April 21, 2011, 02:36:23 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2011, 12:28:29 PM
Quote from: Bingo on April 21, 2011, 12:09:13 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2011, 12:02:00 PM
If you look at that is isiolation and when you add in all the decisions that went in Man Uniteds favour it's easy to see why Wenger should be placed on suicide watch as Aresnal could conceivably be 10 points clear at the top. But that is the vagaries of sport and impossible to rationalise, for example if Arsenal had won at Sunderland the dynamic of their whole season probably would have changed and none of the subsequent results would have stayed the same, they might have won a couple more but could have lost some tight ones as well.

In essence in sport nothing is black and white and in EPL terms all that matters is the final league table and this season a team epitomising the concept 'sum of the whole is greater than the parts' will win the league. A young side like Arsenal should look and learn from that alas I wouldn't put money on it.

But those this highlighted bit hold water anymore? This arsenal side has been around a while now and all have grown from young players to regular EPL players with CL and internantional experience.

I defo wouldn't class them as a young side who will deliver in the future, that ship has sailed.

Chesney Hawkes is 21, Koscielny is 25, Clichy is 25, Djourou is 24, Song, Nasri and Fabregas all 23 and Wlacott 22. Whilshere is only 19 ffs.  Are they not all young men forget about their football experience as adults you only peak physically around 26/27 and mentally they are all young boys still.

For example the champions elect's youngest guranteed starter when all fit and available is Nani who turns 25 this year, even the little Mexican diver is 23 this year. 

So yes are Arsenal are a young side, no one is offering excuses we'll leave that to the Tabloids and the blogs but to deny Arsenal are a young is that they can't learn from defeat is just wrong in my opinion.

Who's to say half of these guys will be Arsenal players by the time they peak? Fabregas is certain to go back to Spain & i can't see Nasri sticking around.

United may have an old side now but don't forget they won titles with younger sides than Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2011, 02:46:48 PM
QuoteUnited may have an old side now but don't forget they won titles with younger sides than Arsenal.

Which sides were these?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on April 21, 2011, 02:57:12 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2011, 02:46:48 PM
QuoteUnited may have an old side now but don't forget they won titles with younger sides than Arsenal.

Which sides were these?

Not United fan however i do remember Alan Hansen saying you can't win anything with kids & i believe they had a good young side in the 50s?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrsandman on April 21, 2011, 03:11:07 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on April 21, 2011, 02:57:12 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2011, 02:46:48 PM
QuoteUnited may have an old side now but don't forget they won titles with younger sides than Arsenal.

Which sides were these?

Not United fan however i do remember Alan Hansen saying you can't win anything with kids & i believe they had a good young side in the 50s?

Hansen said that after they got beat by Aston Villa in the first game of the 1995/1996 season, if my memory serves me correctly Gaz & Phil Neville, Becks, Scholes, Butt etc were all 20, giggs was 22, andy cole was 24ish, they were a few others that were young..needless to say they won they title that year and it was with a youngish squad but also included pallister, schmicheal, keane, irwin and cantona fresh from his suspension!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2011, 03:30:33 PM
For comparatives you can't include the Busby babes it was a different era you didn't even have subsitutes in those days.

I'm curious as to what the average age of that Man U side in 95/96 was based on memory that team's 1st choice would have had Schmeichael the racist in goals, Irwin, Bruce, Palliaster and G Neville in the defence, Keane, Giggs, Butt and Beckham in midfield and Cantona and Cole up front. Also in the squad you had experienced players such as McClair, Parker, Sharpe proven EPL winners. Arsenal's don't have anything like that experience and I love this one-up man ship always been displayed by Man United fans in particular, Arsenal have a young squad either them or Sunderland have the youngest in the EPL, as aside is no wonder Sunderland are looking relegation in the face. So bottom line Ferguson won the EPL that season with a back-bone of experience players blended with youth, Wenger has no such experience players in the squad of his own making I might add.

So this isn't about Man United, it's about Arsenal's young inexperienced squad that lack leaders and in the natural world you would expect them to learn from this chastising experience.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on April 21, 2011, 03:53:26 PM
Dinny your like a man trying to convince yourself that everything will be ok when these lads gets older. the main point in your last post is a good one "lack of leaders" look at the leaders you had in the late 90s & early 00s teams however do you really see any of the current crop developing into those type of players?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2011, 04:25:11 PM
QuoteA young side like Arsenal should look and learn from that alas I wouldn't put money on it.

QuoteMuppet alas you will die wondering...

Yea really trying to convince myself, I am just pointing that Arsenal are a young side without leaders, many people jump on the annoying bottlers, chokers band-wagon without recognising Arsenal's obvious failings, mental fortitude generally only comes with age. Will this Arsenal side ever mature, personally I believe not because Wenger's policy at the moment is to promote from within so in the summer we will probably see Eboue, Clichy, Almunia, Arshavin and probably 1 of Fabregas/Nasri leave, how he replaces those players is the question.




Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 118cmal on April 21, 2011, 04:42:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2011, 03:30:33 PM
For comparatives you can't include the Busby babes it was a different era you didn't even have subsitutes in those days.

I'm curious as to what the average age of that Man U side in 95/96 was based on memory that team's 1st choice would have had Schmeichael the racist in goals, Irwin, Bruce, Palliaster and G Neville in the defence, Keane, Giggs, Butt and Beckham in midfield and Cantona and Cole up front. Also in the squad you had experienced players such as McClair, Parker, Sharpe proven EPL winners. Arsenal's don't have anything like that experience and I love this one-up man ship always been displayed by Man United fans in particular, Arsenal have a young squad either them or Sunderland have the youngest in the EPL, as aside is no wonder Sunderland are looking relegation in the face. So bottom line Ferguson won the EPL that season with a back-bone of experience players blended with youth, Wenger has no such experience players in the squad of his own making I might add.

So this isn't about Man United, it's about Arsenal's young inexperienced squad that lack leaders and in the natural world you would expect them to learn from this chastising experience.

He has Almunia, Sagna, Rosicky, Squillaci, Arshavin who are all experienced.  They're just not good enough.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on April 21, 2011, 04:55:48 PM
Quote from: 118cmal on April 21, 2011, 04:42:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2011, 03:30:33 PM
For comparatives you can't include the Busby babes it was a different era you didn't even have subsitutes in those days.

I'm curious as to what the average age of that Man U side in 95/96 was based on memory that team's 1st choice would have had Schmeichael the racist in goals, Irwin, Bruce, Palliaster and G Neville in the defence, Keane, Giggs, Butt and Beckham in midfield and Cantona and Cole up front. Also in the squad you had experienced players such as McClair, Parker, Sharpe proven EPL winners. Arsenal's don't have anything like that experience and I love this one-up man ship always been displayed by Man United fans in particular, Arsenal have a young squad either them or Sunderland have the youngest in the EPL, as aside is no wonder Sunderland are looking relegation in the face. So bottom line Ferguson won the EPL that season with a back-bone of experience players blended with youth, Wenger has no such experience players in the squad of his own making I might add.

So this isn't about Man United, it's about Arsenal's young inexperienced squad that lack leaders and in the natural world you would expect them to learn from this chastising experience.

He has Almunia, Sagna, Rosicky, Squillaci, Arshavin who are all experienced.  They're just not good
enough.

Is this the same Sagna that has just been voted to the EPL team of the year, or a different one?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 118cmal on April 21, 2011, 06:08:53 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 21, 2011, 04:55:48 PM
Quote from: 118cmal on April 21, 2011, 04:42:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2011, 03:30:33 PM
For comparatives you can't include the Busby babes it was a different era you didn't even have subsitutes in those days.

I'm curious as to what the average age of that Man U side in 95/96 was based on memory that team's 1st choice would have had Schmeichael the racist in goals, Irwin, Bruce, Palliaster and G Neville in the defence, Keane, Giggs, Butt and Beckham in midfield and Cantona and Cole up front. Also in the squad you had experienced players such as McClair, Parker, Sharpe proven EPL winners. Arsenal's don't have anything like that experience and I love this one-up man ship always been displayed by Man United fans in particular, Arsenal have a young squad either them or Sunderland have the youngest in the EPL, as aside is no wonder Sunderland are looking relegation in the face. So bottom line Ferguson won the EPL that season with a back-bone of experience players blended with youth, Wenger has no such experience players in the squad of his own making I might add.

So this isn't about Man United, it's about Arsenal's young inexperienced squad that lack leaders and in the natural world you would expect them to learn from this chastising experience.

He has Almunia, Sagna, Rosicky, Squillaci, Arshavin who are all experienced.  They're just not good
enough.

Is this the same Sagna that has just been voted to the EPL team of the year, or a different one?

Of course it's the same one.  Can you think of any others?

I shouldn't have included him in the 'not good enough' bracket.

But the others are not.  Almunia and Squillachi are dung, Rosicky is a crock and Arshavin doesn't seem to have the correct mentality.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on April 21, 2011, 06:16:26 PM
The Arsenal players mentioned above don't alll have experience of English football though, unlike Pallister, Sharpe, etc. And, if you believe what they tell you, the Premier League is much more different than other top leagues.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 118cmal on April 21, 2011, 06:26:54 PM
Quote from: paco on April 21, 2011, 06:16:26 PM
The Arsenal players mentioned above don't alll have experience of English football though, unlike Pallister, Sharpe, etc. And, if you believe what they tell you, the Premier League is much more different than other top leagues.

Yes but many of his younger players have been playing in the PL for years?  Clichy, Eboue, Fabregas, Song, Van Persie etc.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2011, 09:09:07 PM
The root problem is that the players Arsene has in place to play the game he wants are simply not good enough over the course of a season. Individually/talent-wise they are probably the best team in that league. Collectively they are not. Too many majorly lack intestinal fortitude, something the Invincibles, the '02 and '98 double sides had in abundance. Wenger said Bergkamp was a real bastard in training. Diaby would cry.

There are a lot of players in that squad who would not be even remotely considered for other great clubs. Look at the likes of Hleb, Flamini, Adebayor, Reyes etc. It speaks volumes for Wenger that he can bring such players close to major honours, playing first team roles. As soon as they leave (get ahead of themselves) they're found out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 24, 2011, 04:44:10 PM
Bolton 1-0 up. Typical Arsenalesque defending from a corner.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 24, 2011, 04:58:39 PM
Let's see some of this "mental strength". At the minute they look like the holidays have been booked.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 24, 2011, 05:09:42 PM
Some start to second half. Bolton awarded penalty after 40 seconds. Saved. Arsenal go down field and 1-1. Nice finish by RVP.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: under the bar on April 24, 2011, 05:10:20 PM
I doubt if the arsenal players really believe they have realistic chance of the league even if they do win today, never mind the supporters.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 24, 2011, 05:45:38 PM
And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 24, 2011, 05:50:21 PM
Only turned on the last 10 minutes but fail to see how Clichy gets his game, can't cross and can't play off-side.

Sucker punched!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 24, 2011, 05:51:03 PM
Despair comes knocking
But what does he want?
Is he here to stay?
Or just here to taunt?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 24, 2011, 05:51:37 PM
Arsenal 80% possession. Bolton corner. Goal.

Ha!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on April 24, 2011, 05:52:50 PM
Very emotional for the goalscorer. That was his father's picture he had on his T shirt, ex Liverpool player Avi cohen, who was killed earlier this year
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 24, 2011, 05:56:10 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on April 24, 2011, 05:52:50 PM
Very emotional for the goalscorer. That was his father's picture he had on his T shirt, ex Liverpool player Avi cohen, who was killed earlier this year

And was promptly booked. Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EagleLord on April 26, 2011, 02:35:59 PM
Ridiculous booking him for that. FIFA or FA or whoever makes these rules need to take a look at themselves. ITs protocal gone mad. Would be interested to see what the actual rule is. It used to be showing the skin, then it was personal messages, the ntaking the shirt off altogether. Where is the line drawn?

Also seen a few weeks ago in an american MLS game, a player scored a pen, celebrated by taking off his shirt and throwing it into the crowd, but he had another shirt on underneath. So he was wearing the 2 identical jerseys the whole game! So whats the rule there?? He showed no skin, no personal message, no advertising, ye know what I mean? He still got booked for it by the way, and as it was his second yellow, he got sent off!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 01, 2011, 04:40:10 PM
(http://www.creativewritersdesk.com/images/frustration.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dave on May 01, 2011, 04:42:38 PM
Pity Arsenal didn't put their hands down their jocks a few weeks ago and found the balls they had today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on May 01, 2011, 05:05:23 PM
(http://80.190.240.186/phpBB2/files/applause.gif)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 01, 2011, 06:20:42 PM
Arsenal proved one thing today - if Utd win the league they are poor champions, the best of a bad bunch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on May 01, 2011, 06:30:29 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 01, 2011, 06:20:42 PM
Arsenal proved one thing today - if Utd win the league they are poor champions, the best of a bad bunch.

I agree this is not the best United side in recent memory and Barcelona should win the Champions League quite comfortably but I'm getting a bit sick of hearing this.
How many teams are there in the world who are better than United this season? They are certainly in the top five, Barcelona Madrid, maybe Dortmund. German league is mostly very poor, Serie A the same. Porto might be up there.
Does this mean the standard of world football is woeful at the minute? Or are we just used to watching one of the best teams of all time (Barca) and comparing everyone to that standard.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on May 01, 2011, 06:39:05 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 01, 2011, 06:20:42 PM
Arsenal proved one thing today - if Utd win the league they are poor champions, the best of a bad bunch.

Arsenal beat Barcelona in the CL does that make them the best of a bad bunch also? & must be remembered they also beat Chelsea 3-1

On their day Arsenal can beat the best (above three results prove that) however games v Blackburn,Birmingham & Stoke they struggle in.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 01, 2011, 06:40:42 PM
Beaten Man United at home is no achievement I think any team in the world would fancy it, beating them at OT different kettle of fish. They are just better at beating the poor sides, simple flat track bullies who get all the majority of decisions in their favour but they do have a briiliant manager.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 01, 2011, 06:47:23 PM
Rooney and Vidic are the only players I'd be interested in seeing play live. There are many better sides out there than Utd with much more flair and creativity. There are no better managers though. Fergie has somehow managed to get this limited side to overachieve and fair fcuks to him. It's a personal thing I suppose in terms of taste I suppose but this utd side, esp their midfield, won't live long in the memory.

As for Arsenal, buckets of individual talent but lack knackers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on May 01, 2011, 06:51:35 PM
have to admit Uniteds home record is superb this season & i can't remember many game changing decisions go their way in OT this season, though i think that away form will cost them this season.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on May 01, 2011, 06:52:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 01, 2011, 06:47:23 PM
Rooney and Vidic are the only players I'd be interested in seeing play live. There are many better sides out there than Utd with much more flair and creativity. There are no better managers though. Fergie has somehow managed to get this limited side to overachieve and fair fcuks to him. It's a personal thing I suppose in terms of taste I suppose but this utd side, esp their midfield, won't live long in the memory.

As for Arsenal, buckets of individual talent but lack knackers.

Unlike Coalisland !
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 01, 2011, 07:00:44 PM
Right might close this thread before the kids with the ludicrous sense of entitlement, paranoia and red colored glasses arrive.

Anyway this one bizarre decison that went Man U's way at OT, matching changing no, Arsenal never get these decisions..

(http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/empics/20101213/22/708115416-soccer-barclays-premier-league-manchester-united-v-arsenal-old-trafford.jpg)


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on May 01, 2011, 07:04:01 PM
Ramsey was some loss to United. Their plan to loan him back to Cardiff meant he chose Arsenal.
He is good enough to build a midfield around at the top level.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 01, 2011, 07:14:08 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 01, 2011, 07:00:44 PM
Right might close this thread before the kids with the ludicrous sense of entitlement, paranoia and red colored glasses arrive.

Anyway this one bizarre decison that went Man U's way at OT, matching changing no, Arsenal never get these decisions..

(http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/empics/20101213/22/708115416-soccer-barclays-premier-league-manchester-united-v-arsenal-old-trafford.jpg)

Hoy, Leave the Liverpool fans out of this, we've done nothing to ye :D

As for Arsenal 'never' getting decisions? Hmmm.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2011, 07:18:41 PM
Arsenal the better team and having played less games recently it showed ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on May 02, 2011, 09:09:15 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 01, 2011, 06:40:42 PM
Beaten Man United at home is no achievement I think any team in the world would fancy it, beating them at OT different kettle of fish. They are just better at beating the poor sides, simple flat track bullies who get all the majority of decisions in their favour but they do have a briiliant manager.

Huh?  So what you are trying to say is that United are easy pickings when on their travels?  Try telling the cream of Europe that, as United have been pretty much unbeatable away from home in Europe for a few years now.  As for them being better at beating the poorer sides, it makes me laugh when you get fans of Arsenal or whoever trying to bum that its the fact that they cant beat the less fashionable names that costs them success.  It is against these teams that win teams titles, and these games are the ones where the oppostion are usually fighting for every ball, being extremely physical and defend in their own half for the majority of the match.  But the fact that United beat these teams more often than their rivals is a negative thing?  I think if you go back a few weeks you will find United beat Chelsea twice and their record against Arsenal over the past 4 years is great.

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Quote from: ONeill on May 01, 2011, 06:47:23 PM
Rooney and Vidic are the only players I'd be interested in seeing play live. There are many better sides out there than Utd with much more flair and creativity. There are no better managers though. Fergie has somehow managed to get this limited side to overachieve and fair fcuks to him. It's a personal thing I suppose in terms of taste I suppose but this utd side, esp their midfield, won't live long in the memory.

As for Arsenal, buckets of individual talent but lack knackers.

Name me the 'many better sides out there than Utd'.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 02, 2011, 09:19:48 AM
QuoteRight might close this thread before the kids with the ludicrous sense of entitlement, paranoia and red colored glasses arrive.

They never disappoint - Man U have won 5 away games in the EPL (Wigan - dodgy decision, Blackpool - dodgy decision, West Brom dodgy decision, Stoke - Dodgy decision, West Ham - Dodgy decision) so not one victory where they didn't get the rub of the green. So I'll reiterate away from OT any team would fancy their chances.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on May 02, 2011, 12:07:53 PM
I'm not one of these ludicrous red colored glasses United fans however in most of the away games they lost there was dodgy decision v them & the 9 draws from 18 away games is a big help to their total now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 05, 2011, 12:35:23 AM
It's lonely in here.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on May 06, 2011, 09:53:57 PM
If Arsenal finish 3rd does it mean they have to play a qualifying round to get into next years Champions league?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 06, 2011, 11:38:29 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 06, 2011, 09:53:57 PM
If Arsenal finish 3rd does it mean they have to play a qualifying round to get into next years Champions league?

I don;t think so. Think it's only 4th that play the qualifying round now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 07, 2011, 01:29:23 PM
lovely people the stoke fans  :o

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=161211#
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on May 07, 2011, 02:44:26 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 07, 2011, 01:29:23 PM
lovely people the stoke fans  :o

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=161211#

Some nutters on that board.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 07, 2011, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on May 07, 2011, 02:44:26 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 07, 2011, 01:29:23 PM
lovely people the stoke fans  :o

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=161211#

Some nutters on that board.

aye, makes a few guys on here seem like angels !!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 08, 2011, 12:40:11 AM
Sums up a Gooner's year - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQYob9E0q-Y
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dave on May 08, 2011, 02:38:06 PM
1-0 to the Rugby team  :D

Joking aside,the Arse are lucky there is only 2/3 games left.
I believe if there was a dozen games left Arse wouldn't even finish in Top 4,think Liverpool would get in ahead of them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 08, 2011, 02:41:30 PM
Quote from: Dave on May 08, 2011, 02:38:06 PM
1-0 to the Rugby team  :D

Joking aside,the Arse are lucky there is only 2/3 games left.
I believe if there was a dozen games left Arse wouldn't even finish in Top 4,think Liverpool would get in ahead of them.

Yes you of course are right. Current form is always a precise predictor of future performance.

Did you use this theory to buy lots of houses in 2006/7? Rising prices always means prices will rise.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dave on May 08, 2011, 02:45:42 PM
2-0 to the Rugby team  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on May 08, 2011, 02:52:28 PM
I suppose this image fits in well today aswell.

(http://clotheslineblog.com/files/images/man_shouting_at_laptop.preview.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 08, 2011, 02:52:43 PM
I think it's very unfair of you to call Stoke a rugby team. They're a decent outfit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2011, 02:53:42 PM
Quote from: Dave on May 08, 2011, 02:38:06 PM
1-0 to the Rugby team  :D

Joking aside,the Arse are lucky there is only 2/3 games left.
I believe if there was a dozen games left Arse wouldn't even finish in Top 4,think Liverpool would get in ahead of them.

Bizarre post, you are aware the EPL is a finite league and Arsenal have already qualified for the UCL.

Speaking of bizarre does any side concede as many bizarre/unlucky goals as Arsenal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2011, 02:55:21 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 08, 2011, 02:52:28 PM
I suppose this image fits in well today aswell.

(http://clotheslineblog.com/files/images/man_shouting_at_laptop.preview.jpg)

Not at all, Arsenal haven't anything to play for, would expect Stoke to win pulling away, big final for those boys next week..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dave on May 08, 2011, 02:56:24 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2011, 02:55:21 PM


Not at all, Arsenal haven't anything to play for

Because they haven't any balls.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 08, 2011, 02:57:20 PM
Thread danger alert

Thread danger alert
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on May 08, 2011, 02:58:00 PM
Arsenal had to nothing to play for last weekend either.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dave on May 08, 2011, 02:58:10 PM
@IanJamesPoulter
Ian Poulter
Very amusing Arsenal being beat by 2-0 at home to stoke. When will wenger realize something isn't quite right need some players with balls.

@IanJamesPoulter
Ian Poulter
Yes they are away that's what I meant. Too funny being totally out played.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 08, 2011, 02:59:08 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 08, 2011, 02:58:00 PM
Arsenal had to nothing to play for last weekend either.

That means Stoke would probably annihilate Utd.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2011, 03:00:30 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 08, 2011, 02:58:00 PM
Arsenal had to nothing to play for last weekend either.

Eh!!, UCL qualification!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2011, 03:01:45 PM
Quote from: Dave on May 08, 2011, 02:58:10 PM
@IanJamesPoulter
Ian Poulter
Very amusing Arsenal being beat by 2-0 at home to stoke. When will wenger realize something isn't quite right need some players with balls.

@IanJamesPoulter
Ian Poulter
Yes they are away that's what I meant. Too funny being totally out played.

Good old Ian Poulter, multiple major winner and top top top soccer pundit...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dave on May 08, 2011, 03:03:42 PM
@teridyer
Teri Dyer
Sometimes I see trending topics & feel absolutely clueless. Who are Kenwyne Jones & Kris Commons? Thank god I know who Dolores Umbridge is.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2011, 03:11:53 PM
This thread has become surreal and it's not even school holidays yet, Terri Dyer? who or what is that?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on May 08, 2011, 03:24:43 PM
CL football has been more or less secured for weeks, i'm  just going back on my post from last week e.g Arsenal having no problem rasing their game v the bigger boys.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dave on May 08, 2011, 03:49:55 PM
Chokers
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Worker on May 08, 2011, 03:52:29 PM
Where did the season all go wrong for the arse? carling cup final?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2011, 03:52:46 PM
Cerebral hypoxia
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on May 08, 2011, 03:57:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2011, 03:52:46 PM
Cerebral hypoxia
Too much scuba diving?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2011, 04:00:16 PM
Quote from: The Worker on May 08, 2011, 03:52:29 PM
Where did the season all go wrong for the arse? carling cup final?

I think so, that and the lack of experience/leadership. TV5 loss has also been under-stated.

Stoke well worth their win, typical Stoke their 3 goals all came from 3 Arsenal defensive errors but they're very good at what they do, applying pressure in the right areas. However Arsenal had no interest and just went through the motions more less sin é for 2011. Good season none the less.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2011, 04:02:56 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 08, 2011, 03:57:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 08, 2011, 03:52:46 PM
Cerebral hypoxia
Too much scuba diving?

Well I'm fully qualified but it's not something that excites me, plus I'm an O2 hog and my buddies hate me for cutting short their diving experience...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on May 08, 2011, 04:04:19 PM
Feck me, what a joke
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on May 10, 2011, 09:46:13 PM
Hopefully not a repost.

Football fan loses the plot - Arsenal vs. Newcastle 4-4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQYob9E0q-Y&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 11, 2011, 05:20:45 PM
Just read this on Opta. Sums up Arsenal's overpassing approach!

The Emirates Stadium is the only Premier League ground not to see a goal scored from outside the box this season. Shoot!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on May 11, 2011, 05:36:39 PM
Looks like Arsenal have something to play for afterall, failure to win their remaining games will mean City will possibly pip them for 3rd & that could mean a CL qualifying game v Bayern Munich.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 14, 2011, 08:25:31 AM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1897235/Arsenal%20Report/Matches%202011/v%20Stoke%2C%208%20May%202011/goals.jpg)

Build up play for the 3 Stoke goals and then the Arsenal goal!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 15, 2011, 04:19:53 PM
Fell asleep watching Donegal/Antrim. Turned on Arsenal/Villa. Much more entertaining watching that Arsenal defence. 0-2 down after 15 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on May 15, 2011, 04:21:34 PM
Man City look a good bet for 3rd.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 15, 2011, 04:40:33 PM
That's very true. Arsenal have totally switched off now. Must fancy an early return after the summer break.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 15, 2011, 04:47:23 PM
Chorus of boos at half time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 15, 2011, 05:13:54 PM
This is dire.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 15, 2011, 05:26:45 PM
Somebody shoot ffs.

Empty seats.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 15, 2011, 05:35:16 PM
Sums it up - Arsenal camp out in the Villa half for 20 mins - pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, back pass, get into box and pass, one on one with keeper and pass, pass, pass. Villa finally break out in the 73rd minute with just 3 players and force two saves from Chesney.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 15, 2011, 05:46:57 PM
The lap of "honour" might be embarrassing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 15, 2011, 05:48:10 PM
1-2 (Van Persie 89)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 15, 2011, 05:50:50 PM
Wenger out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on May 15, 2011, 06:03:26 PM
Wenger will have to sort out that home form next season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 15, 2011, 06:08:10 PM
Meh! Good result for Arsenal in the long-term.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on May 15, 2011, 06:11:32 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 15, 2011, 06:08:10 PM
Meh! Good result for Arsenal in the long-term.
Eh? anyways Merson is sure Fabregas is on his way out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on May 15, 2011, 06:13:16 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 15, 2011, 06:11:32 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 15, 2011, 06:08:10 PM
Meh! Good result for Arsenal in the long-term.
Eh? anyways Merson is sure Fabregas is on his way out.

Put the house on him staying then.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 15, 2011, 06:30:48 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 15, 2011, 06:13:16 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 15, 2011, 06:11:32 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 15, 2011, 06:08:10 PM
Meh! Good result for Arsenal in the long-term.
Eh? anyways Merson is sure Fabregas is on his way out.

Put the house on him staying then.
Merson probably will.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballinaman on May 15, 2011, 06:32:01 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 15, 2011, 06:08:10 PM
Meh! Good result for Arsenal in the long-term.
Really?? Looking like being caught for 3rd now...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 15, 2011, 06:42:58 PM
I am too tired to construct meaningful discussion but Wenger is stubborn, the more games Arsenal loses the less belief he will retain in his philosophy. Currently it's my belief that Wenger's utopian ideals have strangled his vision, the summer will tell the story. Mr Wenger will be the gentleman to lead..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on May 15, 2011, 11:00:43 PM
Few Arsenal fans seem to be turning on Wenger. Pressure for top 4 will be heating up with City/Liverpool improving.

For Arsenal to improve then ironically they need to stop being linked with players who are "promising" or "the next ***".

Out Fabregas, Bendtner, Clichy, Rosicky, Eboue, Almunia, Arshavin

In Buffon/Jaaskalinen, Haangeland, Ashley Young, Parker, Klose and keep Nasri.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Rocky Mc Guigan on May 15, 2011, 11:28:27 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 15, 2011, 06:11:32 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 15, 2011, 06:08:10 PM
Meh! Good result for Arsenal in the long-term.
Eh? anyways Merson is sure Fabregas is on his way out.
Merson was sure what was going to win the 3.55 at Pontefract but unfortunately it didn't work out
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on May 20, 2011, 08:05:19 PM
Quote from: Orangemac on May 15, 2011, 11:00:43 PM
Few Arsenal fans seem to be turning on Wenger. Pressure for top 4 will be heating up with City/Liverpool improving.

For Arsenal to improve then ironically they need to stop being linked with players who are "promising" or "the next ***".

Out Fabregas, Bendtner, Clichy, Rosicky, Eboue, Almunia, Arshavin

In Buffon/Jaaskalinen, Haangeland, Ashley Young, Parker, Klose and keep Nasri.
Heard today Arsenal are signing Karim Benzema for £25m and are in a battle with Man. City Man. U and Chelsea for Leighton Baines
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 20, 2011, 10:12:08 PM
Alan Davies' podcast was interesting this week. He reminded us that Wenger has miraculously kept Arsenal in the top four for nearly 15 years consecutively now. Before Wenger's time, 3-4 years in a row in the top 4 was a golden period!

However, he is also aware that if Arsenal want to build on the 3 titles and few FA Cups in that period then it's time to abandon faith in some players.

I'd like to see the following go:

Denilson
Diaby
Rosicky
Bender
Squillachi
Eboue
Almunia
Arshavin

Unfortunately, the following may move on:

Nasri
Fabregas
Sagna
Van Persie.

Wenger has some job on his hands keeping the latter group. Moreso though, he's going to have to abandon his belief that the players he has nurtured from teenage can win the title. They've gone close but lack that final 5% needed. Can Arsene make that call?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on May 21, 2011, 11:00:41 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 20, 2011, 10:12:08 PM
Alan Davies' podcast was interesting this week. He reminded us that Wenger has miraculously kept Arsenal in the top four for nearly 15 years consecutively now. Before Wenger's time, 3-4 years in a row in the top 4 was a golden period!

Wenger has some job on his hands keeping the latter group. Moreso though, he's going to have to abandon his belief that the players he has nurtured from teenage can win the title. They've gone close but lack that final 5% needed. Can Arsene make that call?
Would agree O'Neill, that Arsenal aren't that far away from where they need to be but could that 5% be found somewhere else .

Should Wenger replace Pat Rice for someone younger with fresh ideas rather than trying to hang on to him?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on May 22, 2011, 08:53:29 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 20, 2011, 10:12:08 PM
Alan Davies' podcast was interesting this week. He reminded us that Wenger has miraculously kept Arsenal in the top four for nearly 15 years consecutively now. Before Wenger's time, 3-4 years in a row in the top 4 was a golden period!

However, he is also aware that if Arsenal want to build on the 3 titles and few FA Cups in that period then it's time to abandon faith in some players.

I'd like to see the following go:

Denilson
Diaby
Rosicky
Bender
Squillachi
Eboue
Almunia
Arshavin

Unfortunately, the following may move on:

Nasri
Fabregas
Sagna
Van Persie.
Wenger has some job on his hands keeping the latter group. Moreso though, he's going to have to abandon his belief that the players he has nurtured from teenage can win the title. They've gone close but lack that final 5% needed. Can Arsene make that call?

Can't see him leaving.He'll be made captain when Fabregas leaves.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on May 22, 2011, 11:55:47 PM
What are your feelings about finishing 4th? i guess it depends on who you get in the draw.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 23, 2011, 08:04:22 AM
Delighted to be going through the back door, no traditionalists on this thread.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on May 23, 2011, 10:31:00 AM
nice to Fabregas  at the spanish grand prix yesterday while his team was battling for third place

(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg616/scaled.php?tn=0&server=616&filename=iqlol.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on May 23, 2011, 03:28:37 PM
Quote from: gerry on May 23, 2011, 10:31:00 AM
nice to Fabregas  at the spanish grand prix yesterday while his team was battling for third place

(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg616/scaled.php?tn=0&server=616&filename=iqlol.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)

Imagine an injured united captain spending the last day away from a match - fergie would sell him straight away - fabregas is getting to be a little p***k.
Stevie Gerrard spent yesterday with the scouse away supporters - a leader.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on May 23, 2011, 09:42:20 PM
Who care's whether Fabregas leaves or not it's fairly obvious he doesn't want to be there anymore.We'll get 50million for him.Hope Wenger spends big this summer!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on June 05, 2011, 03:05:00 PM
Nasri trending on twitter. Not committing to Arsenal and not ruling out united.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on June 08, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Arsenal have announced the signing of 19-year-old Finland Under-21 defender Carl Jenkinson from Charlton.

GREATTTTTT!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 08, 2011, 12:04:20 PM
awesome!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on June 08, 2011, 02:21:49 PM
Quote from: spiritof91and94 on June 08, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Arsenal have announced the signing of 19-year-old Finland Under-21 defender Carl Jenkinson from Charlton.

GREATTTTTT!

19? Hardly the Finnish article is he?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on June 08, 2011, 11:00:59 PM
still behind the other big spenders.

tomorrows sun
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on June 11, 2011, 07:59:40 PM
Quote from: spiritof91and94 on June 08, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Arsenal have announced the signing of 19-year-old Finland Under-21 defender Carl Jenkinson from Charlton.

GREATTTTTT!

He can't be much worse than Squillaci.Vermaelen was badly missed this season.I could've seen him and Koscielny building a pretty good partnership.Any other transfer rumours ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 11, 2011, 11:49:31 PM
It seems like Arsenal are slowly losing their appeal. Whether it's wage appeal or club appeal I'm not sure. I think Wenger is losing out to potential players he may have secured easily enough 7-8 years ago.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on June 12, 2011, 11:02:49 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 11, 2011, 11:49:31 PM
It seems like Arsenal are slowly losing their appeal. Whether it's wage appeal or club appeal I'm not sure. I think Wenger is losing out to potential players he may have secured easily enough 7-8 years ago.
There does seem to be a bit of a loser vibe about Arsenal at the minute. See Van Perise today mouthing off about being sick of winning nothing over the last few years.

Surely the onus is on Wenger to clear out some of the deadwood and bring in 3/4 proven players. He should start by testing Man Citys resolve over Shay Given.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 12, 2011, 11:32:39 PM
I've been a Red Member for yonks now, hoping for a Silver soon. However, if Nasri heads off to Utd then feck them. I don't think he will, but if he does it means Arsenal have become a feeder club to the side who rapes their competition every year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2011, 11:39:23 PM
No chance, it's the middle of silly season, if Nasri doesn't get his pay rise expect him to be sold to Madrid or Munich or someone of that ilk.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 12, 2011, 11:46:34 PM
Hope so (and think so) Dinny but it'd be a fair kick in the knackers if it happened, even though Nasri has been fairly inconsistent.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on June 13, 2011, 03:06:25 PM
I thought Nasri said a few months ago that the only club he'd leave Asrenal for would be Marseille because he wants to end his career there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on June 16, 2011, 04:31:26 PM
The cahill signing seems to be on
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on June 16, 2011, 05:54:27 PM
where did you see that?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on June 16, 2011, 10:23:52 PM
Quote from: ildanach on June 16, 2011, 05:54:27 PM
where did you see that?

mail online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2002796/Arsenal-offer-Ignasi-Miquel-bid-sign-Gary-Cahill.html)

the mirror (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Arsenal-ahead-of-Manchester-City-in-race-for-Bolton-Gary-Cahill-article747079.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on June 17, 2011, 09:02:01 AM
nice easy start for us


Newcastle(a), Liverpool(h) and then Manchester United (a)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on June 17, 2011, 09:12:38 AM
August
13 Newcastle (A)
20 Liverpool (H)
27 Man Utd (A)

September
10 Swansea (H)
17 Blackburn (A)
24 Bolton (H)

October
1 Tottenham (A)
15 Sunderland (H)
22 Stoke (H)
29 Chelsea (A)

November
5 West Brom (H)
19 Norwich (A)
26 Fulham (H)

December
3 Wigan (A)
10 Everton (H)
17 Man City (A)
21 Aston Villa (A)
26 Wolverhampton (H)
31 QPR (H)

January
2 Fulham (A)
14 Swansea (A)
21 Man Utd (H)
31 Bolton (A)

February
4 Blackburn (H)
11 Sunderland (A)
25 Tottenham (H)

March
3 Liverpool (A)
10 Newcastle (H)
17 Everton (A)
24 Aston Villa (H)
31 QPR (A)

April
7 Man City (H)
9 Wolverhampton (A)
14 Wigan (H)
21 Chelsea (H)
28 Stoke (A)

May
5 Norwich (H)
13 West Brom (A)

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on June 17, 2011, 11:20:08 AM
great run in there! April we could get 15 points! ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 18, 2011, 10:48:21 AM
http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on June 21, 2011, 01:38:18 PM
Joey Barton..good signing??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 21, 2011, 02:01:16 PM
Don't really like speculating in the silly season but Arsenal do seem to lack a bit of dog in the midfield, Fabregas and Wilkshere have only shown in it in glimpses however not convinced Barton is the dog we need seem more hype than substance. In saying that he has ability and would be interesting with him around.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on June 21, 2011, 02:34:18 PM
i think it would be a signing that could work..he mightnt be as talented as our other midfielders but hes not afraid to put the foot in and kick a few boys if need be. he doesnt give the opposition time on the ball(something arsenal are very guilty of) and i think he could inspire others around him to do the same.

having said that theres alot of baggage and has a tendancy to shout his mouth off to the press which could unsettle the team..plus i can see him putting the head in wenger!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 21, 2011, 04:15:53 PM
Quote from: ThatsTheFootball on June 21, 2011, 01:38:18 PM
Joey Barton..good signing??

16 years ago today Arsenal signed Bergkamp. Barton....Bergkamp...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on June 21, 2011, 09:33:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 21, 2011, 04:15:53 PM
Quote from: ThatsTheFootball on June 21, 2011, 01:38:18 PM
Joey Barton..good signing??

16 years ago today Arsenal signed Bergkamp. Barton....Bergkamp...

Both surnames begin with the letter B.......................Cynics would say that's were the similarities end...........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 21, 2011, 10:57:44 PM
The Iceman could be a dirty bastard too.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Ludraman on June 22, 2011, 12:01:27 AM
Quote from: ONeill on June 21, 2011, 04:15:53 PM
Quote from: ThatsTheFootball on June 21, 2011, 01:38:18 PM
Joey Barton..good signing??

16 years ago today Arsenal signed Bergkamp. Barton....Bergkamp...

i taught his name was dennis no?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on June 23, 2011, 11:49:01 PM
(http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr92/gerrylala/328906037.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Forever Green on June 24, 2011, 02:56:18 AM
I think they will need to add another £10million onto that for it to be considered
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on June 27, 2011, 02:16:53 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13928823.stm - Arsenal prepared to sell Fabregas to Barca.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on June 28, 2011, 11:12:48 PM
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd328/gerry-gaa/3330goon.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on June 29, 2011, 01:26:56 AM
I'd say the older hairy guy got treatment.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 29, 2011, 11:45:54 AM
Def.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on June 30, 2011, 10:45:48 PM
nasri to city for 15 to 20 million

(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd328/gerry-gaa/nasa.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on June 30, 2011, 10:55:04 PM
first signing

(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd328/gerry-gaa/ars.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on July 01, 2011, 02:07:42 AM
(http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr92/gerrylala/goo.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on July 02, 2011, 11:00:31 AM
Arsenal Rocked By Gervinho Bombshell

Arsenal's new signing Gervinho has rocked the Emirates Club by demanding a transfer.

The Ivory Coast international shook hands on an £11million switch from French champions Lille late Friday afternoon but then immediately called a press conference to announce that he wanted a move.

The diminutive forward thanked the manager and fans for their support over the previous twelve minutes but claimed it was time move on.

He said:

"I've enjoyed my time with Arsenal, the people have been fantastic and i'll never forget the cup of tea they gave me when I arrived, but I came to Arsenal to win trophies and this hasn't happened,"

"In football you have to take risks, I want to be a winner and test myself at the highest level, I hope people will understand."

Gervinho's exit comes on the back of news that Gail Clichy and Samir Nasri may both be heading out of the Emirates, with Manchester City tipped as their likely destination, but manager Arsene Wenger still believes the club will win something soon.

"Fans must be patient, I'm sure that next year or maybe the year after that we will win a trophy"

"I am confident that if we avoid the big teams in cup competitions and manage to avoid any hiccups against the small teams we will win something" said Wenger.

There was no confirmation of where the Ivorian will go next but there has been previous interest from North London rivals Tottenham Hotspur.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 02, 2011, 11:02:42 AM
Bastard!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on July 02, 2011, 11:15:46 AM
its a hoax from the net, but with rvp and walcott having two years left on their contract, we can expect to read the same next summer
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on July 02, 2011, 05:04:45 PM
Quote from: gerry on July 02, 2011, 11:15:46 AM
its a hoax from the net, but with rvp and walcott having two years left on their contract, we can expect to read the same next summer

No shit
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on July 02, 2011, 05:27:43 PM
Quote from: gerry on July 02, 2011, 11:15:46 AM
its a hoax from the net, but with rvp and walcott having two years left on their contract, we can expect to read the same next summer

Hopefully it's not the only time he hits the net.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on July 03, 2011, 01:11:25 AM
Arsène Wenger's grand vision is falling apart as Robin van Persie and Andrei Arshavin linked to exodus (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/8613269/Arsene-Wengers-grand-vision-is-falling-apart-as-Robin-van-Persie-and-Andrei-Arshavin-linked-to-exodus.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on July 03, 2011, 06:28:35 PM
Quote from: gerry on July 03, 2011, 01:11:25 AM
Arsène Wenger's grand vision is falling apart as Robin van Persie and Andrei Arshavin linked to exodus (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/8613269/Arsene-Wengers-grand-vision-is-falling-apart-as-Robin-van-Persie-and-Andrei-Arshavin-linked-to-exodus.html)

*sigh*
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BarryBreensBandage on July 04, 2011, 12:36:13 PM
Reports of Kevin Doyle moving to Arsenal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on July 04, 2011, 11:31:39 PM
(http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr92/gerrylala/gun.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on July 04, 2011, 11:35:08 PM
(http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr92/gerrylala/g.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 05, 2011, 11:36:20 AM
Gerry, I think you need to lay off the tabloids.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on July 05, 2011, 04:24:10 PM
Just rename it to Offical Gooners tabloid thread.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on July 05, 2011, 09:40:14 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 05, 2011, 11:36:20 AM
Gerry, I think you need to lay off the tabloids.

sure there is feck all happen in here if i didn't
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AFS on July 07, 2011, 05:09:30 PM
Quote from: Orangemac on July 07, 2011, 12:51:17 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 06, 2011, 11:21:40 PM
So, the only transaction has been Clichy to City. Disappointing so far. Gervinho apparently had a medical - his youtube clips are uninspiring. Unfortunately I think Nasri will sign for Utd. Sad, sad day.
Instead of £7m for Clichy why didn't Wenger ask for Shay Given instead? Seems like a no brainer unless there are doubts about Given's injuries over the last few years.

Perhaps Given isn't as highly rated as you presume.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on July 09, 2011, 11:33:54 PM
Quote from: AFS on July 07, 2011, 05:09:30 PM
Quote from: Orangemac on July 07, 2011, 12:51:17 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 06, 2011, 11:21:40 PM
So, the only transaction has been Clichy to City. Disappointing so far. Gervinho apparently had a medical - his youtube clips are uninspiring. Unfortunately I think Nasri will sign for Utd. Sad, sad day.
Instead of £7m for Clichy why didn't Wenger ask for Shay Given instead? Seems like a no brainer unless there are doubts about Given's injuries over the last few years.

Perhaps Given isn't as highly rated as you presume.
Obviously not rated by Wenger but then has he ever signed a decent keeper in his time at Arsenal? Lehmann who even Arsenal fans would admit is as crazy as bag of frogs would probably be the best in 15 years.

Could have had Schwarzer last summer who would have brought stability and assurance to the defence ( and won the league cup at least) but lost out over a minor transfer fee.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 10, 2011, 12:26:36 AM
Why would he buy a keeper when he has Chesney Hawkes  ???

Given doesn't have the required concentration levels to play for a team like Arsenal or Man U.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on July 10, 2011, 01:24:05 AM
Arsenal goalkeeper Manuel Almunia and striker Nicklas Bendtner are in talks with unnamed clubs over moves away from the Emirates.

Bendtner, 23, and Almunia, 34, were left out a 23-man squad that will travel to Asia for a pre-season tour. (http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/07/09/arsenal-to-announce-another-two-player-sales-on-monday/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Forever Green on July 10, 2011, 03:47:22 AM
http://ballbetweentwo.blogspot.com/2011/07/day-in-life-of-cesc-fabregas.html (http://ballbetweentwo.blogspot.com/2011/07/day-in-life-of-cesc-fabregas.html)
;D
09:51 Wake up. Pre-season training hasn't started yet so stay in bed watching Jeremy Kyle. Check phone. Two unread text messages. Both are from Arsène. The first one was sent at three in the morning, possibly under the influence of a few glasses of red wine. 'Cesc u r making a mistake', it reads. 'We were ment 2 b. We will b gr8 together. U and me, heroes of arsenal. Plz dont goooo :( '. Sigh in exasperation and open up the second text. This one is more succinct. 'Ignore last night's text. Please call me soon - Arsène.' Get up and make breakfast.

10:24 Watch DVD of Barcelona beating Manchester United at Wembley. Imagine that it is you that sets up Pedro to score the opening goal. Celebrate each of Barcelona's goals by sliding along the floor on your knees, just like you do every morning. Go up to the attic and fetch your Barcelona jersey. Hug it tightly and mutter 'soon, soon' surreptitiously.

12:34 Phone rings. Think it's Arsène so leave it go unanswered. Begin throwing darts at Brian Horton dartboard in your kitchen. Phone rings again. Answer it this time. It's a hack. Ask how he got your number but he ignores you. Hang up. Hack rings again. Tell hack that you love Arsenal but who knows what the future holds. Change phone number. Again. Begin to cook lunch (pizza) and return to dartboard.

14:11 Doorbell rings. It's Arsène. He asks if you got his text messages. Tell him you lost your phone. He smiles and invites himself in. Sit down on the couch and listen to Arsène talk about His Plan. Avoid eye contact. Stare at ground and tell Arsène that your mind is made up and there is nothing he can do about it. He starts to get angry and begins talking about League Cup runner-up medals. Ask him to leave. He slams the door while shouting, 'I don't need you, Denilson and Diaby are the best midfielders in the world.' You know he is lying. It still hurts.

16:01 Turn on Sky Sports News. The quote you fed the hack earlier is scrolled across the yellow ticker. Notice that quote has been altered to say that '[you] loved Arsenal but Barcelona is what the future holds.' Watch fans burn your Arsenal shirt outside the Emirates. Ring agent and ask him to clarify what you really said in the press. Read news of Thiago extending his contract with Barcelona and begin to panic. Text Gerard and tell him how much you miss him. Wait sixteen minutes and forty three seconds before you get a reply. Gerard says that he misses you too and that he and Carles are doing everything they can to bring you home. Smile.

18:35 Win the Champions League with Barcelona on Fifa 11. Score two goals as captain in the final. Finish the season as topscorer. Sell Thiago.

19:57 Doorbell rings. It's Wilshere. Don't answer. He climbs in through an open window. He starts to tell you off for making Arsène sad. He asks if you're really leaving for Barcelona. Tell him that you are. Enjoy the confused look on his face. 'But Barcelona's not even in England', he says. Usher him out when he starts singing God Save the Queen. Return to Fifa 11. Drop Messi and play yourself up front. Score a hattrick in a 3-0 victory against Real Madrid.

23:21 Go to bed. There is nothing on telly and you have no one to go out with. Sleep with picture of the time Pepe put a Barcelona shirt on you under your arm. Dream of the Champions League final. Again.

02:42 Woken up by a text. It's Arsène. 'Plz Cesc, i can change. Dont leave. Plz dont leave.'

Change phone number.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on July 11, 2011, 01:25:12 PM
QuoteGiven doesn't have the required concentration levels to play for a team like Arsenal or Man U.

I believe that Seamus is considered 'hard to work with'.  Apparently.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on July 11, 2011, 05:56:35 PM
Arsenal signed this guy with the big forehead http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13759774.stm
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on July 11, 2011, 05:59:39 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 11, 2011, 05:56:35 PM
Arsenal signed this guy with the big forehead http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13759774.stm

Should be good in the air then.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on July 11, 2011, 06:04:10 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on July 11, 2011, 05:59:39 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 11, 2011, 05:56:35 PM
Arsenal signed this guy with the big forehead http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13759774.stm

Should be good in the air then.

Looks like Worf.

Should see more shooting so.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 13, 2011, 03:40:42 PM
Just beat Malaysia 4-0. Nasri came on after 60 mins or so.

Def gonna win the league.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 13, 2011, 03:57:41 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 13, 2011, 03:40:42 PM
Just beat Malaysia 4-0. Nasri came on after 60 mins or so.

Def gonna win the league.

Hope he kissed the badge when came on!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on July 19, 2011, 01:47:17 PM
Barcelona in talks over Fabregas

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/article3098811.ece

Cesc Fabregas could finally be granted his dream move to Barcelona after Pep Guardiola claimed today that Arsenal had agreed to negotiate his sale.
The Arsenal and Spain midfield player, who moved to North London from the Catalan giants in 2003, has made clear his desire to return to his home club.
But despite Arsène Wenger, the Arsenal manager, claiming last week that the club would do everything in their power to keep their captain, it appears that his departure is inevitable with Guardiola claiming that his club would do everything in their power to secure his signing.
"This year Arsenal has agreed to negotiate and we are working on it," Guardiola, flanked by sporting director Andoni Zubizarreta, said.
"Barcelona has made an offer, Arsenal another and we have time until August 31 and we'll try to reach an agreement.
"There is a sum of money in the strong box set aside for this signing but if it doesn't work out it will be kept in the box for something else.
"We will fight to the end to try to get Cesc because we believe he will improve the team and the squad."
Fabregas discussed his situation with Wenger when he returned for pre-season training this month and, with speculation rife about his future, did not join his team-mates on a tour to Asia because of a hamstring injury.
It is no secret that Fabregas wants to return to the club he has supported since he was a child. He joined the Barcelona youth academy aged 10 before moving to Arsenal at 16.
However, Wenger has remained positive about his chances of persuading his captain to stay. When asked whether Fabregas would stay last week, Wenger said: "Yes. As simple as that. I never speak about what's happening behind closed doors. I think Cesc loves the club and hopefully we'll manage."
Wenger was equally adamant about the future of Samir Nasri, who has been linked with a move to Manchester City and Manchester United, although his future remains a source of conjecture.
Guardiola said that despite the push to land Fabregas, his priority was to sign a forward and Zubizarreta said the club were close to completing the purchase of Alexis Sanchez, the Chile striker, from Serie A side Udinese.
Barcelona were also on the verge of selling striker Bojan Krkic to Roma, who have hired Luis Enrique, former Barcelona B coach, to lead them for the coming season.
"As we understand it we are in the final stages of the negotiations to sign Sanchez and an agreement will happen very soon," Zubizarreta, the former Barcelona and Spain goalkeeper, said.
"But I would have said the same thing this time last week. As in a good film, it seems sometimes the end takes a little longer."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on July 20, 2011, 11:24:47 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14190573.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14190573.stm)

Denilson back home on a season loan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on July 21, 2011, 01:19:28 PM
read somewhere this morn that everton have rejected a £12million bid from arsenal for jagielka. i wish wenger would hurry up a sign a centre half or two. i would take jag but would much prefer cahill but look like wenger wants to pay the money for him. samba isnt an option, way overrated for me
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on July 27, 2011, 10:03:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i59BHsnWLms
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on July 28, 2011, 11:34:48 PM
Quote from: ThatsTheFootball on July 21, 2011, 01:19:28 PM
read somewhere this morn that everton have rejected a £12million bid from arsenal for jagielka. i wish wenger would hurry up a sign a centre half or two. i would take jag but would much prefer cahill but look like wenger wants to pay the money for him. samba isnt an option, way overrated for me
Arsenal can feck off with their £12m. If Utd paid £17m for Jones from Blackburn Jags is worth at least £20m.

Far better defender than Cahill ( who looks good on the ball but not sure if he is prepared to throw himself at shots the way Jagielka is).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on July 31, 2011, 01:48:20 AM
If Arsenal are to part with Fiberglass - I wouldn't mind their current number four moving in the other direction as part of the deal. Watching him against United here and he's been very very good.

Just scored a cracker too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Forever Green on July 31, 2011, 01:56:04 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on July 31, 2011, 01:48:20 AM
If Arsenal are to part with Fiberglass - I wouldn't mind their current number four moving in the other direction as part of the deal. Watching him against United here and he's been very very good.

Just scored a cracker too.

Is it Thiago? Unbeleivable talent and there is zero chance that Guardioula will let him leave imo
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on July 31, 2011, 02:01:55 AM
Fabregas really only has this or next year to get a shot at getting in that team.

Yeah - thiago.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: paco on July 31, 2011, 10:32:56 AM
Thiago just signed a contract extension, a long term one. Guillem Balague (and quite a few other journalists on Twitter) seems to reckon Mata to Arsenal is almost done, if his opinion means anything to the Arsenal fans!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 03, 2011, 01:07:13 PM
Agree with the majority of this -

Part 1

The Summer Of Our Discontent

In the increasingly polarized world of Arsenal support, it seems that there is only room for unrelenting positivity or cataclysmic doom. But I'd like to suggest that there's a third option. Perhaps it is possible to question some of the decision making at the club, without implying that Arsene Wenger is some anachronistic fool who's lost his understanding of the modern game and the people controlling Arsenal FC are all avaricious monsters hoping to destroy everything good at the club. I don't think it's necessary to be so intractable.

At this point, I am ready to concede that the club have made some egregious mistakes this summer. The club have failed to deal truthfully with the fans, and once again left crucial transfer business to be done far too late. On the one hand there are issues where Arsene is choosing sporting concerns over pecuniary realities, while simultaneously ignoring certain other sporting deficiencies in the name of financial considerations.

When you add up all the facts, there's simply no avoiding the conclusion that the people controlling Arsenal are in the midst of bottling this pivotal transfer window much the way their players recently bottled the Carling Cup Final. If we're going to be critical of the players for such transgressions, we should be allowed to be equally critical of the leadership at Arsenal.

Consider the following questions:

Will Cesc stay at Arsenal? If he does, when will he be ready to play? What can we expect from him? If he's sold, how will we replace him?
Will Nasri sign? If he doesn't, will he be sold? If he is sold, will he be replaced? Would we let him leave for free?
Will we buy a central defender? Will we go into the season depending on Gibbs and Traore at left-back?
Will Bendtner, Eboue and Almunia be sold?
Without Bendtner, and with Chamakh's dip in form, do we genuinely have enough quality at center-forward beyond van Persie?
Arsenal knew that it faced virtually every one of these questions at the end of last season. And with less than two weeks until the start of the new season, none have been answered. Maybe we shouldn't expect to have every answer. A few can only be provided in time. But it's unconscionable that we should be asking the same questions on August 3rd that we were asking in May.

It all starts with Cesc Fabregas. Last summer there was endless speculation that he would leave for Barcelona. Arsene was clear that Arsenal had no intention of selling him. However, there was no denial that Cesc wanted a move to the Nou Camp. Some people close to the situation suggested that Arsene asked Cesc to give him one more year at the Arsenal. Regardless, Arsenal's public statements about the player proved truthful and accurate. Arsenal said Cesc would stay and Cesc stayed.

This summer has been entirely different. We began the summer with declarations from the manager that Cesc was staying and that the player was not for sale. Slowly, as the summer progressed, those statements changed. Now we know that the club will sell the player to Barcelona but only if the Catalans meet our valuation.

In the background, there has been speculation that the player is quietly on "strike." He did not accompany the team to Asia. He did not play for the team in the Emirates Cup. And while the club initially tried to mollify supporters with claims of a continued hamstring problem, they have since acknowledged that he's "unsettled."

Whether the player is in fact on "strike" is irrelevant. It's clear that the Cesc issue is directly effecting the team's preparation. Cesc Fabregas is arguably the best player at Arsenal. You can't possibly prepare for a new season, especially one so front-loaded with key fixtures, when you don't know the status of your most influential player.

Moreover, we are now hearing claims that Arsenal's ability to proceed with essential transfer business hinges, to some extent, on what happens with Cesc. Not only are the team unable to prepare with their best player, but they're also unable to conduct the business necessary to improve the team.

The team have left this too late. Next week there are international fixtures. Most players will spend that week with their country rather than their club. By the time they return to London Colney, the match at St. James' Park will be 48 hours away. So it's safe to say we are down to the last five days of meaningful preseason preparation for Arsenal. And we still don't know if our captain and best player will be with the team, or if a replacement will be bought should he leave.

At this point it almost doesn't matter. If Cesc were to stay, it's unlikely to expect much from him for the first few weeks. If Cesc is sold, and Arsenal were to buy a replacement, it's hard to imagine that the new player could be ready in time. So we should simply expect neither to have Cesc at the start of the season, nor have any reinforcements at his position.

It's a bad outcome to a bad situation. But the club have created their own fortune. If they had just been honest at the beginning of the summer, they could've taken control of the situation. Frankly, I'm not sure why they haven't anyway. Arsenal could have come out and said:

"Cesc will be sold to Barcelona if they meet our valuation of the player. We value Cesc at £40 million and will not entertain any bid below that price. We are prepared to hold Cesc Fabregas to his contract if we do not receive an offer at our asking price. If the necessary bid is not received by the start of our Asian Tour, then Cesc will be an Arsenal player for the upcoming season."

I might be over simplifying a complex situation but frankly I fail to see how. This transfer is down to one thing; price. They want the player, the player wants them. By hesitating in our approach to this transfer we've given Barcelona and Cesc Fabregas reason to believe that we can be bullied into accepting a lower bid. If I were Barcelona, that's precisely how I would interpret Arsenal's behavior. I wouldn't pay what Arsenal are asking if I didn't have to. Especially when Cesc isn't even Barcelona's primary transfer target.

Some people might argue that Cesc's own behavior is what's put us in such a difficult position. I don't accept that. We could tell Cesc that he's free to go if Barca meet our price and explain to him why the price is reasonable given other market valuations. If Cesc threatened to go on strike for the season, we call his bluff.

Everything Cesc has done in his Arsenal career has been geared towards achieving success for himself and his team while garnering the respect and admiration of the fans. Can anyone believe the player would sit out a season, right before the European Championships, in his mid 20s, because Barcelona wouldn't pay what he's worth? Would he trash his reputation, lose the money, give up a year of football, and possibly lose a spot in the Spain squad over this? Nothing about Cesc suggests that he would behave that way. I think he would accept that his "dream move" to Barca has to wait and do his best for Arsenal once again.

The fact that we are now in this confused situation with Cesc Fabregas has nothing to do with Barcelona or the player. It has to do with Arsenal showing a stunning lack of conviction or direction on an issue that they knew would be prominent again this summer.

If that was the only thing the club did wrong this summer, then you might say it's not the end of the world. But there's the Samir Nasri situation to consider as well. Nasri became a popular figure at the Emirates last season. While there's no denying his spectacular start to the campaign, there's also no avoiding the deterioration of his contribution over the last 5 months.

Nasri is still essentially unproven, but he wants to be the highest paid player at the club. Despite his obvious motives, he has dazzled some fans with spectacular bullshit about wanting to see ambition from Arsenal before he signs. I find it interesting that when Denilson claimed he was a winner and wanted to win trophies, most people dismissed that as lunacy. But when Nasri says it, while negotiating a contract, many people are quick to lap it up.

If you believe the reports, and there's reason to believe them, Arsenal can get £22 million for Samir Nasri. Yet for some reason, Arsene Wenger has departed from his usual policy of fiscal responsibility and said that Nasri is not for sale. It's hard to understand really. Nasri is far more replaceable than Cesc. We can get more money for him than he's probably worth. We're likely going to lose him for free next summer anyway. But Arsene has chosen this moment to show a callous disregard for finances. Why?

Wenger said earlier in the summer that you cannot sell Cesc and Nasri and claim that you are still an ambitious club. Perhaps he is right. But that depends entirely on what you do in connection with those sales. If you fleece City for £22 million and use it to buy Juan Mata and a dependable center back, then you will not only be seen as ambitious, but improved!

Wenger's stance on Nasri has started to change recently, just as his stance on Cesc has changed. Wenger now says that Nasri will only stay if he shows clear signs of his commitment. Personally, I don't care if he agrees to sign for Arsenal for half his current wages. He's not a £22 million player in my opinion. He's not capable of playing Cesc's role in the center of the park. And wingers are something we have in abundance at the club. Selling him gives us the resources to properly strengthen.

But now that situation is shrouded in uncertainty. Nasri can't play in the first leg of our Champions League playoff tie. Had we sold him early in the summer and spent that money already, we'd be a stronger side to start the season. Now there's little chance he'll be sold before the season begins, if he's sold at all. He won't help us start our qualifying campaign for the Champions League, but we won't have a replacement for him in time to help us if he is sold. As far as I can tell, it's a situation that's been badly mismanaged and the ultimate decision on Nasri may eventually prove to be the wrong one.

And as bad as the Cesc and Nasri situations have been this summer, the handling of our defensive issues has probably been probably worse. We were told very clearly at the beginning of the summer that Arsenal would be active in the transfer market and that the defense would be strengthened. It was a decisive statement that the manager was aware of our deficiencies and intended to rectify them.

But actions speak louder than words. Wenger sold our established left-back and bought an untested, young right-back. Carl Jenkinson looks a bright young talent but right-back is the most settled position in our defense. Meanwhile, Gael Clichy's departure means two untested left-backs will battle for that starting role. Gibbs is the player Wenger has identified as Clichy's successor, but injury problems have consistently kept him from finishing matches, let alone playing for several months consecutively.

And none of those moves addressed the problem in the center of defense. Time has ticked away and Arsenal have yet to sign the central defender that we were assured was arriving. Early in the transfer window we heard that Samba and Cahill were likely. Now we hear that Jagielka is a target. But in each case, Arsenal did not see fit to buy the player. By most accounts, our bids were deemed insufficient in each instance.

Even as recently as last week, Ivan Gazidis has said that Arsenal were certain to make more moves in the transfer market, but the question of timing is again paramount. Arsenal play five times from August 14 to August 27. Is it reasonable to expect the same XI to play every one of those matches? Probably not. That means that an out-of-form Johan Djourou will probably have to play in a key fixture. Traore and even Squillaci could have to do the same. Which begs the question: how has the defense improved from last season?

Arsenal's manager publicly acknowledged that the defense had to be strengthened. If we enter the season having sold our longest serving first-team defender and having bought a young back-up right-back, how can anyone expect a better defensive record? There's no denying the importance of Thomas Vermaelen's return from injury, but with so many fixtures so early in the season, Arsenal need strength in depth.

By waiting so long to buy a defender, Arsenal may also find that the market becomes less favorable. The perception right now is that we need a center-back. As a result, teams will want full-price to sell us one. But if we start the season by conceding a few bad goals, the prices won't improve, they'll worsen. If we are seen as desperate, then players like Cahill and Jagielka will suddenly become even more overpriced than we seem to think they are already.

We have plenty of evidence that Arsenal are not always the best when playing games of brinkmanship with transfers. We narrowly missed out on Xavi Alonso, and had to wait until January to complete what should have been the summer signing of Andrei Arshavin's. Often when we've waited until too late to secure a target, we've wound up with consolation prizes like Silvestre and Squillaci. Then we have the case of last summer's pursuit of a goal-keeper.

Last summer Arsene privately identified goal-keeper as a position that needed to be addressed. We had targets. We pursued them. We balked at the prices. Right until the very very end of the summer transfer window, Arsene coyly suggested that the business would get done. But it didn't. We started the season with Manuel Almunia as our number one when there was no excuse in the world for that happening. Without arguing about whether it turned out for the best due to Szczesny's rise to prominence, Arsenal's transfer tactic's last summer were an abysmal failure. If you identify an problem area and don't address it, you've failed. Pretty simple conclusion.

Right now we're facing the same fate. Defense was identified as a problem after last season. We've failed to address it, and we will now struggle to have addressed it before the season starts. Is there any possible excuse for going into the 2011-2012 season with a weaker defense than the one we had last campaign?

You could argue that we have to respect our financial realities. We are not a club that can afford to just pay whatever price we're quoted. And that's absolutely correct. But it's not an exculpatory argument in this case. Arsene can't say we are able to lose Nasri for free next summer, then suggest we are not able to pay the asking price for a top quality center back. If we had conducted our Cesc business or Nasri business is a timely fashion, then we'd be well positioned to pay what's required to secure the services of someone like Gary Cahill.

The signing of Gervinho shows that Arsene is still a top evaluator of talent. He finds gems at prices that fit the Arsenal financial model. And for that reason, he often balks at buying players that he perceives as being overpriced. But surely Arsene knows that £22 million for Samir Nasri is more than he's worth. If you can sell a player for an inflated price, why can't you then pay a little extra to improve an area of the squad that desperately needs it?

And if money is really the issue, then why haven't the outgoing players moved already? We knew that Arsenal had to make some signings this summer, but it was almost equally clear that some players had to be sold. Proceeds from those sales could've been used to fund signings regardless of how Cesc and Nasri's situations are resolved.

It's easy to argue that we've tried to move out certain players but can't find willing buyers. Maybe that is the case. Of course that raises the issue of their wages, but I don't want to broach that topic.

Whether we've done all we can to move players like Bendtner, Eboue and Almunia remains to be seen. But if we're sitting around waiting for the dream offer for these players while simultaneously haggling for the lowest possible price for our targets, you can see the hypocrisy. Ultimately that's a recipe for being stuck with unwanted players and failing to acquire new ones.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 03, 2011, 01:07:46 PM
With all the broken promises, equivocation and indecision this summer, it's no wonder supporters are antsy. I fully believe the booing at the Emirates Cup was more an expression of frustration with Arsenal's summer business than with the team's performance on the pitch. (Not that I believe is was the proper expression of that frustration, but that's another topic.) It's hard to argue that the nervousness among the supporters isn't mostly justified. And when a club's supporters are nervous and on edge, the club needs to find ways to ease the tension. Cue Peter Hill Wood.

When the Chairman of Arsenal FC speaks to the media, it should only be to praise the supporters for their commitment, and thank them for their patronage. That's what you do when you're in the customer satisfaction business. And when you know that your club is going through a challenging, transitional period, it's even more incumbent upon the Chairman to show some circumspection in his public comments.

So it's hard to defend Mr. Hill-Wood for his latest outburst in the Star. He criticizes the fans as essentially some impatient mob that doesn't understand the business of football. Even if he's right, he is completely out of line saying such things. In any other business, he'd be in peril of losing his job.

Right now fans are frustrated that Arsenal's new owner, Stan Kroenke, has remained relatively silent regarding his plans for the club. The only men doing the talking are Ivan Gazidis and Peter Hill-Wood. Since Kroenke remains silent, fans will inevitably assume that Mr. Hill-Wood's words represent the sentiment of the club's leadership. That only makes his comments more stinging.

Mr. Hill-Wood is a millionaire who attends Arsenal matches for free alongside fans who pay the most money in England for their ticket and are still coping with a new 6% increase. Those fans were treated to a disgraceful capitulation by their team at the end of last term and promised changes this summer, most of which haven't come. And to add insult to injury, those fans are experiencing the range of emotions that come with losing our captain and best player to the team that knocked Arsenal out of European competition the last 2 seasons after a protracted tapping-up campaign.

All Peter Hill-Wood has done is help entrench a sense of disillusionment among a major segment of the support. He's furthering an "us against them" mentality between the supporters and club's leadership. It's the last thing the club needs right now. More than anything the players need Emirates Stadium to be fortress that intimidates the opposition. But the Chairman's comments hardly make fans want to sing their hearts out. Instead he's helping foment more of the very unrest he so clearly despises.

In fact, Mr. Hill-Wood indirectly slighted his own players. Jack Wilshere is the latest Arsenal player to come forward and suggest we need signings. He joins the likes of Ramsey, van Persie and Szczesny is making that observation. Other players have gone farther, questioning the ambition of the club. Players like Denilson, Nasri and Clichy have all made statements to that effect. I'm not saying I agree with them, because I don't. I still believe we are an ambitious club. But when the players make these kinds of comments, it's hard to blame the fans for following suit. And it's totally unacceptable for the Chairman to respond by dismissing all of it as aberrant behavior.

This isn't an issue of where Arsenal will finish in the upcoming season. We all live in hope. Even if we lost Cesc and Nasri and failed to make another signing, I'd get right behind the players wearing an Arsenal shirt, and right behind Arsene Wenger, and I'm sure they'd put up one hell of a fight for silverware. That's not the point.

Arsenal were confronted with a summer that presented very clear challenges and required very decisive action. But the club failed to act decisively. While we accept that it is not our right as fans to know everything the club are doing behind the scenes, they are in the business of pleasing fans. After all, that's what a professional football team is supposed to do. It's supposed to please its customers.

Arsenal can please the fans through positive results on the pitch. But Arsenal can also endear itself to fans by taking decisive action to rectify acknowledged problem areas. Ivan Gazidis obviously understands that. Why else would he appear on camera and say that Arsenal understand where the weaknesses have been, that there are significant resources to invest, and that we will definitely still be active in this transfer window? He didn't make that statement for the benefit of our bargaining position with other clubs. He said it to calm the fans. He said it to reassure us. But those statements were made more than two weeks ago already. And still no sign of "activity."

Having said all of this, there's still a positive viewpoint. Cesc could stay. Nasri could stay. We could add a defender or two. Maybe even a striker will arrive. We could even have all of that resolved this week. It seems unlikely, but it's not impossible. And if that happened, some people would be inclined to say we had a fantastic summer. I might even have been one of those people. After all, we'd have everything we wanted.

But upon further reflection, I just can't fully agree with that anymore. We will start the season unsettled. It's a foregone conclusion now. Because even if all of the aforementioned miracles occur, it's too late. We can't get everyone settled and ready before NUFC. Especially when few players will be with the club next week.

We're 48 hours from Member's Day and there are rumors that a version of the team photo will be taken with and without Cesc to allow for either eventuality. Who knows if that's true. But having that kind of uncertainty this close to the season is obviously not in anyone's best interest.

A new season should come with excitement and hope. Right now, there's more trepidation and animosity. The fans are fighting amongst themselves over these very issues, and that's sad to see. It's hard to mentally prepare for this season when the most pressing questions from last season are still hanging over us. Only when those questions are answered, will most fans feel ready to start thinking about what transpires on the pitch.

But I don't want to end this stern examination on a sour note. As I said earlier, I live in hope. When the curtain rises on the 2011-2012 season, I will be ready to support every player wearing the famed blue and light blue of Arsenal. (Sorry, couldn't resist. The joke comes courtesy of the very funny @feverpitch on twitter.)

I recently received my new Jack Wilshere shirt. (Yes, the new away shirt. I'm a sucker for marketing.) And as I slipped it on, I noticed that familiar motto behind the crest as always. "Victoria Concordia Crescit."

Ultimately it's up to the management at Arsenal to conduct the club's business. And it's up to us as fans, to support our players in what they do on the pitch.  A long time ago Arsenal adopted that latin motto meaning "Victory Through Harmony." Never has it seemed so appropriate as it does now. It's time to stop worrying about the business of football and leave that to the business people at Arsenal. It's time for us to come together as supporters and see a common ground. Maybe the easiest way to do that is to remember the common enemy. They're the ones wearing the other shirt.

Meaningful football will soon be upon us and I for one am excited to support The Arsenal once again. As always.


http://yankeegunnerblog.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/the-summer-of-our-discontent/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 03, 2011, 01:30:52 PM
I am way too optimistic to read all of that. Can you summarise?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 03, 2011, 02:08:11 PM
Summary - Sol Campbell is back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 03, 2011, 03:46:39 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 03, 2011, 02:08:11 PM
Summary - Sol Campbell is back.

Meh, better than Senderos.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on August 03, 2011, 04:23:10 PM
Great article
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 03, 2011, 04:38:12 PM
With Kildare knocked out I end up here, I'm definitely a sporting masochist   :'(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 03, 2011, 04:39:01 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 03, 2011, 04:38:12 PM
With Kildare knocked out I end up here, I'm definitely a sporting masochist   :'(

And you have a Mayo grandmother. Jebus.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on August 03, 2011, 05:23:13 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 03, 2011, 04:39:01 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 03, 2011, 04:38:12 PM
With Kildare knocked out I end up here, I'm definitely a sporting masochist   :'(

And you have a Mayo grandmother. Jebus.

And Westmeath connections. Jebus2
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 05, 2011, 11:21:40 AM
Arsenal v Udinese. Home first leg.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 05, 2011, 11:58:40 AM
Bloody hell, that could be season defining.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on August 05, 2011, 12:29:10 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 05, 2011, 11:58:40 AM
Bloody hell, that could be season defining.


Not the ideal draw but in fairness you would expect Arsenal to progress. I'm sure Fabragas won't feature but it'll be interesting to see if Nasri does.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: wherefromref on August 05, 2011, 02:50:16 PM
I hope Fabregas features against Udinese leaving him cup tied for any team wishing to buy him ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 05, 2011, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: wherefromref on August 05, 2011, 02:50:16 PM
I hope Fabregas features against Udinese leaving him cup tied for any team wishing to buy him ;D

Arsenal meeting Barcelona officials according to the Beeb.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 08, 2011, 09:10:51 PM
Is this what Arsenal fans are thinking?  Don't know how reliable the Evening Standard is but interesting article.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/article-23976417-ive-full-respect-for-arsene-wenger-and-he-should-be-given-more-time-but-i-fear-the-end-is-near-for-him.do
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on August 10, 2011, 08:03:39 AM
Arsene Wenger would remind you of the character "Even better that that" from The Fast Show.

"Did you get what we needed at the shops - solid goalkeeper, commanding centre half, holding midfilelder?"

"Even better that that!"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14448089.stm
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 10, 2011, 08:26:21 AM
Arsenal only need a centre-back, one will be signed. Wenger for all his stubbornness is not stupid, he wouldn't have bought AOC if he didn't have another signing lined up. If he didn't he would only be creating a bigger stick for the media and for the first time an increasing minority of Arsenal fans to hit him with.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 10, 2011, 09:28:56 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 08, 2011, 09:10:51 PM
Is this what Arsenal fans are thinking?  Don't know how reliable the Evening Standard is but interesting article.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/article-23976417-ive-full-respect-for-arsene-wenger-and-he-should-be-given-more-time-but-i-fear-the-end-is-near-for-him.do

On one hand you can get swept away with the whole trophyless malarky and say yes. At the same time, Arsenal are competitive every year - usually at some stage challenging for the title and doing well enough in cup competitions/CL - and we don't really know what the true financial burden of the Emirates is.

However, if there is no change to the defensive set-up this year and the same mistakes are made....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on August 10, 2011, 10:29:20 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 03, 2011, 05:23:13 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 03, 2011, 04:39:01 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 03, 2011, 04:38:12 PM
With Kildare knocked out I end up here, I'm definitely a sporting masochist   :'(

And you have a Mayo grandmother. Jebus.

And Westmeath connections. Jebus2

And coaching a game with laws rather than rules. Jebus3
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on August 10, 2011, 11:03:38 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 10, 2011, 09:28:56 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 08, 2011, 09:10:51 PM
Is this what Arsenal fans are thinking?  Don't know how reliable the Evening Standard is but interesting article.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/article-23976417-ive-full-respect-for-arsene-wenger-and-he-should-be-given-more-time-but-i-fear-the-end-is-near-for-him.do

On one hand you can get swept away with the whole trophyless malarky and say yes. At the same time, Arsenal are competitive every year - usually at some stage challenging for the title and doing well enough in cup competitions/CL - and we don't really know what the true financial burden of the Emirates is.

However, if there is no change to the defensive set-up this year and the same mistakes are made....

Arsenal is constantly put forward as the way to run a club but alls not rosy here either. The cost of going to a match is ridiculous, the manager is clearly being denied funds yet the Fizmans, Lady Bracewell etc are taking money out of the club hand over fist.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/apr/20/arsenal-stan-kroenke-board
Quote

Arsenal's board cash in from Stan Kroenke after 30 expense-free years

The Gunners' status as the club whose self-sustaining way all others should follow does deserve to be challenged


Cesc Fábregas's pointed questioning of the "Arsenal way" and the sudden outbreak of fans querying the club's direction are coming, in a neat coincidence, just days after Arsenal's chairman, Peter Hill-Wood, sang his and the board's own praises as they sold their shares to Stan Kroenke.

Arsenal's "self-sustaining business model", as Hill-Wood and his fellow directors have come to call it, has been paraded to the parliamentary select committee's inquiry into football and to Uefa as the embodiment of virtue, compared to the plutocrat-subsidised loss-making at Chelsea and Manchester City. In a nutshell it means that Arsenal spend what they earn, from the 60,361-seat Emirates Stadium and other income they make, and the directors or shareholders do not put their own money in.

It is the sensible way for football clubs to be run and what Uefa requires in its financial fair-play rules, but there are some serious problems with the fairness of the self-congratulatory Arsenal "model". Over almost 30 years not one director or shareholder of Arsenal has put a penny into the club itself, while they have made vast personal millions for themselves out of selling their Arsenal shares.

Hill-Wood last week said that as directors, "protecting the ethos and spirit" of the club was "a key responsibility", so they were selling to Kroenke because they are confident he will be a "safe custodian". Secure that they were doing their duty, Hill-Wood banked £4.7m for his shares, Lady Nina Bracewell-Smith £116m and Danny Fiszman, who was terminally ill by then and has since died, £117m for his family.

None of that money is going back into Arsenal, whether to buy and fund the wages of some senior experienced players Fábregas argues they desperately need – that would be contrary to the "self-sustaining model" – or to keep ticket prices the right side of extortionate. It is all for the custodians to keep.

Arsenal's self-sustaining model now apparently requires prices to rise again, 6.5%, at the stadium that already has the most expensive tickets in the Premier League – and therefore the world. Arsenal Supporters' Trust, managing creditably to campaign for the club's soul while diplomatically seeking an influence, is challenging what these price rises are to be spent on, while other fans are simply, angrily, objecting to forking out more.

Arsène Wenger's resistance to signing the kind of colonels Fábregas is calling for is said to be due to the manager's own philosophical insistence that he wants to win things with kids. Hill-Wood and his fellow board members, all senior citizens, appear to have left that to the manager over the years, using the club's money to pay down the stadium debt rather than buy players. While sensible, of course, to reduce the debt, that also made the trophy-less club, and the directors' shares, more attractive financially for Kroenke to buy.

Arsenal's status as the club whose way set an example to all does deserve to be challenged. It never was a "sustainable model", which other clubs could follow, if a 60,000-seat stadium, in the nation's richest catchment area – London and the south-east – is what football now requires to be competitive.

Now, though, the model appears to be to hit the fans with another 6.5% ticket-price rise, while the directors, who put no money into the club, pat themselves on the back as they put multiple millions into their own bank accounts.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 10, 2011, 12:37:57 PM
QuoteArsenal is constantly put forward as the way to run a club but alls not rosy here either. The cost of going to a match is ridiculous, the manager is clearly being denied funds yet the Fizmans, Lady Bracewell etc are taking money out of the club hand over fist.

The Arsenal board for the previous 10 years did not make one cent out of Arsenal they refused to take any dividends, that money was put towards the stadium. This year with the emergence of the Yank and Ukrainian who both wanted a ROI dividends were paid and some directors sold shares disgruntled the way the business model of the club was heading.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: whitegoodman on August 10, 2011, 01:20:54 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 10, 2011, 08:26:21 AM
Arsenal only need a centre-back, one will be signed. Wenger for all his stubbornness is not stupid, he wouldn't have bought AOC if he didn't have another signing lined up. If he didn't he would only be creating a bigger stick for the media and for the first time an increasing minority of Arsenal fans to hit him with.

He is stupid enough and pigheaded enough too.  He has need one for at least 2 years now and still hasnt bought one.  He would have won at least 1 more title if he had of invested in his defence.

He is going to start the league with Djourou ( excuse the spelling ) at centre half who wouldnt get on a good pub side whilst he had 2 months to buy a decent centre half and have them settled in and ready for the start of the season.  Utter madness imo
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 10, 2011, 01:33:15 PM
Is Vermullen back fit this year?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on August 10, 2011, 06:23:38 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 10, 2011, 08:26:21 AM
Arsenal only need a centre-back, one will be signed. Wenger for all his stubbornness is not stupid, he wouldn't have bought AOC if he didn't have another signing lined up. If he didn't he would only be creating a bigger stick for the media and for the first time an increasing minority of Arsenal fans to hit him with.

Arsenal need more than just a centre back they need to improve the squad depth, last year when they got a few injuries they couldn't cope.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on August 10, 2011, 06:30:02 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 10, 2011, 01:33:15 PM
Is Vermullen back fit this year?

Yep,  he was one of Arsenals best players at the Emirates Cup.

Fabregas and Nasri have been named in Arsenals squad for next weeks CL game.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/fabregas-and-nasri-in-arsenals-euro-squad-2844079.html (ftp://http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/fabregas-and-nasri-in-arsenals-euro-squad-2844079.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 10, 2011, 09:29:32 PM
naming the two players in next tuesday team has moved things on today
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 10, 2011, 10:18:38 PM
(http://c0013904.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_7a77cbf)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 10, 2011, 11:41:02 PM
bbc.co.uk/sport

Quote

Arsenal's Cesc Fabregas on verge of Barcelona move


By Dan Roan
BBC sports news correspondent Cesc Fabregas Fabregas started his career with Barcelona at the age of 10

Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas is close to signing for European champions Barcelona for a fee believed to be about £35m.

The transfer, one of the most protracted in Premier League history, is yet to be completed but Arsenal expect it to be done by the weekend.

According to a senior source at the club, all the funds generated by the sale will be reinvested in new players.

The Gunners have been linked with Scott Dann, Phil Jagielka and Gary Cahill.

Gunners boss Arsene Wenger looks intent on strengthening his defence and reports have suggested centre-backs Dann of Birmingham, Everton's Jagielka and Cahill of Bolton could be targets.

Fabregas, 24, would be unable to feature for Barcelona in the Champions League if he plays a part in Arsenal's match with Udinese on Tuesday, motivating both clubs to complete a deal before that game.

The BBC understands a fee of £30m, plus over £5m of additional performance-related payments, is close to being reached for Fabregas.

It is believed that, if he is sold, the Spaniard will be due £4m in compensation - £1m for each year of his contract he did not complete - but may be prepared to forego that payment in order to facilitate a deal.

Negotiations have been conducted by Barcelona's Vice-President Josep Maria Bartomeu and is believed to be a final take-it-or-leave-it offer, leaving Arsenal having to sell one of the major assets or keep a player who has his heart set on a move.

The transfer fee is significantly less than the £40m that Arsenal had been holding out for and suggests that the Gunners felt they had no choice but to sell a player who wanted to leave.

Fabregas, who has 58 caps for Spain, joined Arsenal from the Catalan giants in 2003 and, since making his name in north London, has been persistently linked with a return to his boyhood club.

Wenger will now turn his attention to keeping Samir Nasri at the club, who has refused to sign a new deal at the Emirates amid speculation of interest from Manchester City.

If the Fabregas deal goes through as expected, he will become Barcelona's second major signing of the summer following their £23m purchase of Chilean forward Alexis Sanchez.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 10, 2011, 11:50:47 PM
Closed till Saturday in a social experiment, hopefully a centre-back will be signed and it will be all the best to the Cesc Bomb and hopefully he'll stay fit for Barca and fulfill his undoubted talent, the kid has a touch of class and demonstrate that it's not always about the money....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 12, 2011, 09:16:21 PM
Any truth in the rumour Wenger wants the league to be called over now, not sure why.

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Barclays Premier League table
Friday, 12 August 2011 12:39 UK

       P   GD   PTS
1   Arsenal   0   0   0
2   Aston Villa   0   0   0
3   Blackburn   0   0   0
4   Bolton   0   0   0
5   Chelsea   0   0   0
6   Everton   0   0   0
7   Fulham   0   0   0
8   Liverpool   0   0   0
9   Man City   0   0   0
10   Man Utd   0   0   0
11   Newcastle   0   0   0
12   Norwich   0   0   0
13   QPR      0   0      0
14   Stoke      0   0      0
15   Sunderland   0   0   0
16   Swansea   0   0   0
17   Tottenham   0   0   0
18   West Brom   0   0   0
19   Wigan   0   0   0
20   Wolves   0   0   0


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 13, 2011, 05:01:59 PM
Szczesny,
Sagna, Koscielny, Vermaelen, Gibbs,
Song, Ramsey, Rosicky, Arshavin,
Gervinho, Van Persie
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on August 13, 2011, 05:14:37 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 13, 2011, 05:01:59 PM
Szczesny,
Sagna, Koscielny, Vermaelen, Gibbs,
Song, Ramsey, Rosicky, Arshavin,
Gervinho, Van Persie

How much did it cost Arsene to put that starting team together out of interest
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 13, 2011, 05:23:51 PM
0m
6m, 10m, 10m, 0m
1m, 5m, 7m, 15m
10m, 3m
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 13, 2011, 06:04:25 PM
Getting easily robbed of the ball. 30 minutes in no goals and two yellow cards. Some change from this game last season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 13, 2011, 06:26:09 PM
Chez looks good in goal but I was waiting for him to mess it up when he came out of his box.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 13, 2011, 07:10:40 PM
Mighty stuff. There's a spirit here hopefully thus year.

We still want Barton on a free?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 13, 2011, 08:07:23 PM
i hope barton is ok, the poor man seems very fragile


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkizj5_newbartonincident_news (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkizj5_newbartonincident_news)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Shrewdness on August 14, 2011, 08:36:50 AM
Even though i'm a United fan, i'm going to make a prediction here now that is sure to incur the wrath of you Arsenal fans.

I believe that Arsene Wenger will leave Arsenal BEFORE this new season ends.

He has backed himself into a corner, and the end is near.
Arsenal's failure to win a trophy since 2005 is well documented...I believe he has handled the Fabregas/Nasri situations very badly. The dogs on the street knew since the end of last season that both players wanted out of Arsenal this summer.Instead of dealing with the issue head on, Wenger buried his head in the sand, and indulged himself in some fantasy world where both players would stay.
He has allowed both situations to drift, maybe to get more money, but mainly in the hope that one or both of them would stay.
Anyone knows that unhappy players leave a club sooner rather than later.

Now what happens. Both players are on the verge of leaving, the new season has already started, the transfer deadline is looming large, the heart has been ripped out of the Arsenal midfield, and Arsenal have not bought anyone to replace them, and are fast running out of time to do so.
A man of Wenger's experience should have handled this better. He will now be under huge pressure from Arsenal fans to deliver. How he has failed to buy a central defender this summer is unbelivable...Imagine the clamour for his head if Arsenal get knocked out by Udinese.

I'm afraid that the Wenger project at Arsenal is about to implode.I believe he won't see out the season, probably resigning rather than being sacked.
With Clichy, Fabregas and Nasri either gone or going, how long before Van Persie follows.

Taxi for Wenger :'(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 14, 2011, 11:24:37 AM
Quote from: Shrewdness on August 14, 2011, 08:36:50 AM
Even though i'm a United fan, i'm going to make a prediction here now that is sure to incur the wrath of you Arsenal fans.



We're not that type around here!

I was thinking along the same lines yesterday. If things went pear-shaped against Udinese and by November Arsenal were mid-table, would the previously unsackable Wenger be in danger by the twitchy owner?

Arsene will still produce good football and Arsenal have one hell of a record reaching the CL. Even last year they were fighting well on 4 fronts in February and beat Barcelona at home. But, as you say, his interviews and press conferences are bewildering now and, I have to admit, annoying. His proclamations are empty and without any value at times - on Friday he said no one was leaving and three hours later Cesc was packaged up.

Although defensively they were never troubled yesterday, it was Newcastle after all (forget about the 4 last year) and it just takes for one to be injured and all hell breaks loose. In midfield Ramsey and Wilshere will form a nice partnership, as talented as any, and Arshavin, Rosicky and Walcott (sporadically) have a bit of creativity about them. Song (I know some don't) I like in that Gilberto role. It's actually up front I'm concerned. RVP isn't an out and out striker and will break down for 10 games at some stage. Gervinho looks more of an attacking wide player. Arsenal have no one who'll get their head on a fine cross - sometimes there'll be no one in the box at all as VP found out yesterday twice when he crossed it. They've no lightening paced predator - it's a pity Eduardo or Vela didn't work out.

To answer your post, yes, there's a possibility that this could be Arsene's last season unless he pulls a rabbit out of the hat.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 14, 2011, 11:30:29 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 14, 2011, 11:24:37 AM
Quote from: Shrewdness on August 14, 2011, 08:36:50 AM
Even though i'm a United fan, i'm going to make a prediction here now that is sure to incur the wrath of you Arsenal fans.



We're not that type around here!

I was thinking along the same lines yesterday. If things went pear-shaped against Udinese and by November Arsenal were mid-table, would the previously unsackable Wenger be in danger by the twitchy owner?

Arsene will still produce good football and Arsenal have one hell of a record reaching the CL. Even last year they were fighting well on 4 fronts in February and beat Barcelona at home. But, as you say, his interviews and press conferences are bewildering now and, I have to admit, annoying. His proclamations are empty and without any value at times - on Friday he said no one was leaving and three hours later Cesc was packaged up.

Although defensively they were never troubled yesterday, it was Newcastle after all (forget about the 4 last year) and it just takes for one to be injured and all hell breaks loose. In midfield Ramsey and Wilshere will form a nice partnership, as talented as any, and Arshavin, Rosicky and Walcott (sporadically) have a bit of creativity about them. Song (I know some don't) I like in that Gilberto role. It's actually up front I'm concerned. RVP isn't an out and out striker and will break down for 10 games at some stage. Gervinho looks more of an attacking wide player. Arsenal have no one who'll get their head on a fine cross - sometimes there'll be no one in the box at all as VP found out yesterday twice when he crossed it. They've no lightening paced predator - it's a pity Eduardo or Vela didn't work out.

To answer your post, yes, there's a possibility that this could be Arsene's last season unless he pulls a rabbit out of the hat.

if this happens, he maybe wont see the end of august never mind the end of the season !
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2011, 01:18:50 PM
Arsenal have had only 16 managers in 100 years, the culture of Arsenal football club means Arsene Wenger will never be fired. He might resign and considering the nature of the agenda setting modern media who would blame him.

The media reporting of Arsenal is very unbalanced and often they will try and create a story where none exists.

Unless you are privy to the meetings between Wenger and Gazidis no one has one iota surrounding the financial constraints the new stadium has places on Wenger particular as Arsenal are committed to paying off that stadium as quickly as possible.

The short term view taken by many and driven by a sensationalist media is quite frankly annoying. Arsenal will be competitive this season, our failings I firmly believe will be addressed before the transfer window end.

Transfer talk is all  about games, Arsenal's stance on Fabregas and Nasri has insured they get the best price, the actual valuation of Fabregas is interesting because Barce placed a sell on clause on him when he joined Arsenal so he real price is probably 40m + and if they get 22m for Nasri (1 year left on his contract), again good business.

In nutshell Arsenal will be fine, Wenger will still be there next year in some capacity and Arsenal will win the EPL sometime in the next 5 years once the stadium debt has been paid off. 

Wenger is planning Arsenal's future, some people want that future now but you can't bring the future to the present. That's what people need to understand.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 14, 2011, 02:03:20 PM
Dinny, I never thought I'd see the day when Wenger's interviews were starting to annoy me. No big deal in terms of AFC as a club and interviews are pointless I suppose but his myopia is out of control. An example was when he tried to claim that Song did nothing wrong yesterday. This 'mental strength' mantra is simply hollow.

Quoteour failings I firmly believe will be addressed before the transfer window end.

And if not....?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2011, 02:31:04 PM
His comments on Friday we tongue in cheek and amusing I thought.

His interviews have also annoyed me from his myopia to his honesty but then every EPL's managers interviews annoy me.

I suppose we'll wait and see on the transfers, we could be here all day speculating a bit like discussing why John Terry and Vidic never seem to get penalties given against them.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on August 14, 2011, 02:32:07 PM
Who on earth would you bring in that is going to do any better?

One of the best managers about, I'd be sticking with him
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 14, 2011, 02:35:35 PM
If the money's not there, then you're right - no one will do better.

If the money is there then he could be doing a lot better.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 14, 2011, 10:04:33 PM
well that it done then


Arsenal manager Arsène Wenger said: "We have been clear that we didn't want Cesc to leave and that remains the case. However, we understand Cesc's desire to move to his home town club and have now accepted an offer from Barcelona. We thank Cesc for his contribution at Arsenal and wish him future success."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on August 14, 2011, 11:26:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2011, 01:18:50 PM
Unless you are privy to the meetings between Wenger and Gazidis no one has one iota surrounding the financial constraints the new stadium has places on Wenger particular as Arsenal are committed to paying off that stadium as quickly as possible.

In nutshell Arsenal will be fine, Wenger will still be there next year in some capacity and Arsenal will win the EPL sometime in the next 5 years once the stadium debt has been paid off. 
If funds are limited at Arsenal, why consistently say they have money to spend which puts pressure on Wenger when he doesn't spend it?

It makes sense that they want to pay off the debt but without some investment in the team qualifying for the CL which would be a crucial source of income will get harder.

Look at Arsenals bench yesterday, a squad in serious need of strengthening.

Subs: Frimpong,Djourou, Walcott, Fabianski, Oxdale-Chamberlain, Jenkinson, Chamakh.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2011, 11:36:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 14, 2011, 11:32:37 PM
Some putt by Bradley. from 5 in it to 1.

If only Bradley would spend some cash on a decent putter!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 14, 2011, 11:40:36 PM
He'd buy a 15-year old one from Lyon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 14, 2011, 11:49:16 PM
I hear Fabregas is leaving Arsenal for Barca.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2011, 11:50:29 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 14, 2011, 11:49:16 PM
I hear Fabregas is leaving Arsenal for Barca.

Are you stupid Arsenal don't sell their best players  >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 14, 2011, 11:51:52 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 14, 2011, 11:49:16 PM
I hear Fabregas is leaving Arsenal for Barca.

Balls. He has a contract.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on August 15, 2011, 10:41:43 AM
I know I shouldn't be surprised, but that was disgraceful carry-on by Barton on Saturday. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 15, 2011, 10:58:01 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on August 15, 2011, 10:41:43 AM
I know I shouldn't be surprised, but that was disgraceful carry-on by Barton on Saturday.

He's an idiot and if he was a foreign player he'd be hung out to dry but because he is the latest media TWITter darling his actions were conveniently by-passed.

The media in England have turned the EPL into a soap opera, it really is becoming impossible to sit down enjoy a bit of escapism without some idiot pundit or journalist talking uninformed balderdash telling you what you should think.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on August 15, 2011, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 15, 2011, 10:58:01 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on August 15, 2011, 10:41:43 AM
I know I shouldn't be surprised, but that was disgraceful carry-on by Barton on Saturday.

He's an idiot and if he was a foreign player he'd be hung out to dry but because he is the latest media TWITter darling his actions were conveniently by-passed.

The media in England have turned the EPL into a soap opera, it really is becoming impossible to sit down enjoy a bit of escapism without some idiot pundit or journalist talking uninformed balderdash telling you what you should think.

No disagreement there Dinny; what surprised me was that the ref decided to send off Gervinho and only gave a yellow to Barton.  Gervinho went down (a bit easily) in the box, Barton ran over screaming at him, grabbed him and started pushing him around, other players intervene to calm matters down, then Barton takes a dive.  I'm not sure what positioning the officials had, but the ref seems to have 'bought' the Barton dive and sent Gervinho off.  He then had a chat with the officials and gave Barton a yellow.  Personally, I'm at a loss as to how he came to those decisions - if he was going to send Gervinho off (presumably for 'striking'), then would the equitable thing not have been to dismiss Barton for 'ungentlemanly conduct'?  Though I suppose if he'd been applying that rule, Barton would have been sent off prior to kick-off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Bingo on August 15, 2011, 12:16:27 PM
Will Wenger bite the bullet and spend big, you'd have to imagine he should be after the likes of Sneijder, Mata, Cahill at the very least, but rarely do Arsenal even be linked with these time of players. Its all been well documented before about his strategy and eye for a player that will fit Arsenal but surely its time to act now.

As a few others have pointed out, he's now under fierce pressure and might not last the season. Luckily Udinese aren't the team they were last year, but neither are Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 15, 2011, 12:46:38 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on August 15, 2011, 11:58:13 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 15, 2011, 10:58:01 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on August 15, 2011, 10:41:43 AM
I know I shouldn't be surprised, but that was disgraceful carry-on by Barton on Saturday.

He's an idiot and if he was a foreign player he'd be hung out to dry but because he is the latest media TWITter darling his actions were conveniently by-passed.

The media in England have turned the EPL into a soap opera, it really is becoming impossible to sit down enjoy a bit of escapism without some idiot pundit or journalist talking uninformed balderdash telling you what you should think.

No disagreement there Dinny; what surprised me was that the ref decided to send off Gervinho and only gave a yellow to Barton.  Gervinho went down (a bit easily) in the box, Barton ran over screaming at him, grabbed him and started pushing him around, other players intervene to calm matters down, then Barton takes a dive.  I'm not sure what positioning the officials had, but the ref seems to have 'bought' the Barton dive and sent Gervinho off.  He then had a chat with the officials and gave Barton a yellow.  Personally, I'm at a loss as to how he came to those decisions - if he was going to send Gervinho off (presumably for 'striking'), then would the equitable thing not have been to dismiss Barton for 'ungentlemanly conduct'?  Though I suppose if he'd been applying that rule, Barton would have been sent off prior to kick-off.

It was the easy thing to do and send off Gervinho, there was contact but not enough to merit a penalty but Barton man-handled him when the ball was in play, that was a penalty. Barton's profile saved him.

Then again Song should have been sent off for his stupid stamp, so Arsenal will now face Liverpool and Man United without those 2 available.

I miss the days when league tables weren't published until September....

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on August 15, 2011, 02:13:34 PM
Any of you good Arsenal folk point me in the direction of 2 tickets for home game with Swansea on the 10th September (I think).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on August 15, 2011, 02:51:31 PM
fabregas signs for barca - now the breking news is eboue is in talks with galatasary - talk about Black Monday ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on August 15, 2011, 03:01:28 PM
Quote from: spiritof91and94 on August 15, 2011, 02:51:31 PM
fabregas signs for barca - now the breking news is eboue is in talks with galatasary - talk about Black Monday ;)

Racist.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Forever Green on August 15, 2011, 03:30:25 PM
Really Arsenal are fucked if they lose Nasri. With the money going to be coming in from both deals, ideal players for Arsenal would be Scott Dann, Gary Cahill, Scott Parker and Kevin Doyle. Was going to say Barton as well but you lads wouldn't be too happy about that. Two decent wingers are needed as well. Lukasz Podolski can easily play in that position and Lavezzi from Napoli would be class as well.
Dann-10 milion
Cahill-20 million
Parker-season loan
Doyle0-11 million
Podolski-10 million
Lavezzi-15 million

Wenger really needs to spend the cash this summer because it they lose out on CL football, they wont be able to attract big name players anymore. With the new signings this should be the team:

Sochjezny

Sagna
Dann
Cahill
Vermaelan

Parker
Wiltshire

Lavezzi
Van Persie
Podolski

Doyle
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 15, 2011, 03:53:14 PM
Does anyone feel like we got raped a bit when you see the breakdown of the transfer fees?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on August 15, 2011, 04:05:04 PM
I think when a player makes it public knowledge that he wants to go, you're always going to get shafted as a club, in terms of market value. The extent of the shafting depends on how much you stick to your guns and are prepared to let him rot in the stands.

Arsenal did a reasonable job, over 12 months, but that shit would wear you down.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2011, 04:56:26 PM
It's a bit of a relief that it has all ended.

I see Nasri has criticised the Arsenal fans on Twitter for singing songs about him. Bad songs I guess.

Eboue apparently arriving in Turkey tonight (good place for him) and Bendtner trying everything he can to find a club.

It's some challenge for Wenger now. He has lost the player with the most assists in Europe over the last five years - will Wilshere effortlessly step into his shoes?

The same defensive doubts remain and won't be fixed by one player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 15, 2011, 05:06:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 15, 2011, 04:56:26 PM
It's a bit of a relief that it has all ended.

I see Nasri has criticised the Arsenal fans on Twitter for singing songs about him. Bad songs I guess.

Eboue apparently arriving in Turkey tonight (good place for him) and Bendtner trying everything he can to find a club.

It's some challenge for Wenger now. He has lost the player with the most assists in Europe over the last five years - will Wilshere effortlessly step into his shoes?

The same defensive doubts remain and won't be fixed by one player.

My doubts have lessened, TV5 back for the season and Chesney Hawkes looks the real deal and a fit Gibbs is a much better defender than Clichy, so one quality CB and one good left back and I think Arsenal will be quite good defensively, experience in defence is always the key and another year older will only be of benefit.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2011, 05:09:13 PM
Hope you're right. That Carling Cup final still gives me nightmares...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ross4life on August 15, 2011, 05:50:10 PM
If Gibbs,Sagna gets injured whos the full back cover?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 15, 2011, 05:55:46 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 15, 2011, 04:05:04 PM
I think when a player makes it public knowledge that he wants to go, you're always going to get shafted as a club, in terms of market value. The extent of the shafting depends on how much you stick to your guns and are prepared to let him rot in the stands.

Arsenal did a reasonable job, over 12 months, but that shit would wear you down.

He was never staying - they had no chance at persuading him. Release a statement at the start of the summer. Yes - Cesc is for sale.  fixed price (40-50 million) - non negotionable by transfer deadline. Stuck to it. Arsenal are as spineless at times in the boardroom as they are at the back. This deal now is awful.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Evil Genius on August 15, 2011, 06:38:12 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 15, 2011, 04:05:04 PMI think when a player makes it public knowledge that he wants to go, you're always going to get shafted as a club, in terms of market value.
Not necessarily. For instance Berbatov had been agitating to move to MU right from the moment he heard they were interested. And iirc, MU's opening bid was around £20m. Spurs held out until the very last minute of the window and got £30m*.

And it will be exactly the same with Modric and Chelsea, if the latter are determined to get him, Spurs already having turned down bids of £22m and £27m.


* - Incidentally, Berba's fee was almost three times what Spurs paid for him (£11m). With Luca having cost £16.5m, the equivalent return for Spurs would be £50m, but my guess is that Chels might get him for around £35m.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on August 15, 2011, 07:14:56 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on August 15, 2011, 06:38:12 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 15, 2011, 04:05:04 PMI think when a player makes it public knowledge that he wants to go, you're always going to get shafted as a club, in terms of market value.
Not necessarily. For instance Berbatov had been agitating to move to MU right from the moment he heard they were interested. And iirc, MU's opening bid was around £20m. Spurs held out until the very last minute of the window and got £30m*.

And it will be exactly the same with Modric and Chelsea, if the latter are determined to get him, Spurs already having turned down bids of £22m and £27m.


* - Incidentally, Berba's fee was almost three times what Spurs paid for him (£11m). With Luca having cost £16.5m, the equivalent return for Spurs would be £50m, but my guess is that Chels might get him for around £35m.

Slight difference with Berba would be that there was a 3rd party involved, City, who pushed the price up. As much as Berba wanted to join United he was also prepared to join for City if he had to, sure he was City bound before Fergie kidnapped him. But with Fabregas he was never going anywhere but Barca who could afford to play hardball..

Barca will hardly feel they got a bargain anyway as the player was basically stolen from them when he was 16. Note, this isn't a dig at Arsenal, all English clubs have taken advantage of the laws in other European countries not allowing clubs to offer youngsters professional contracts til they're 18? United did it with Rossi and Pique to name 2.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Go home ref on August 16, 2011, 01:17:18 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 15, 2011, 10:58:01 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on August 15, 2011, 10:41:43 AM
I know I shouldn't be surprised, but that was disgraceful carry-on by Barton on Saturday.

He's an idiot and if he was a foreign player he'd be hung out to dry but because he is the latest media TWITter darling his actions were conveniently by-passed.

The media in England have turned the EPL into a soap opera, it really is becoming impossible to sit down enjoy a bit of escapism without some idiot pundit or journalist talking uninformed balderdash telling you what you should think.

Conveniently by passed? He was slated by every pundit and paper in England and also Song's actions were far worse than Barton's stamping on a player like that is disgraceful also Gervihno dived and then slapped Barton across the face that's a red simple as if Barton had done what Gervihno or Song had done we'd never hear the end of it
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2011, 08:28:08 AM
Quote from: Go home ref on August 16, 2011, 01:17:18 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 15, 2011, 10:58:01 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on August 15, 2011, 10:41:43 AM
I know I shouldn't be surprised, but that was disgraceful carry-on by Barton on Saturday.

He's an idiot and if he was a foreign player he'd be hung out to dry but because he is the latest media TWITter darling his actions were conveniently by-passed.

The media in England have turned the EPL into a soap opera, it really is becoming impossible to sit down enjoy a bit of escapism without some idiot pundit or journalist talking uninformed balderdash telling you what you should think.

Conveniently by passed? He was slated by every pundit and paper in England and also Song's actions were far worse than Barton's stamping on a player like that is disgraceful also Gervihno dived and then slapped Barton across the face that's a red simple as if Barton had done what Gervihno or Song had done we'd never hear the end of it

Every pundit and every newspaper, really?

This is an extract from The Guardian match report, the first one I looked at at.

QuoteGervinho was lying on the floor attempting to make a meal of minimal contact in a fair challenge by Cheik Tioté when Joey Barton came across to tell him to get on with the game. Gervinho took offence, a scuffle turned into a melee and, amid all the handbags, the Ivorian connected with a girly slap to Barton's temple. Barton probably did not need to fall down as if poleaxed, though he did, and Peter Walton probably did not have to produce a red card, though he did. Barton was given a yellow card, which was possibly slightly harsh,

Currently the negativity in the reporting around The Arsenal has reached epidemic proportions, there is no middle ground in sports reporting anymore and it's not confined to soccer either (just look at the reaction in some quarters to England's defeat in a World Cup warm-up). Joey Barton is been indulged by the media because of his current twitter exploits and is making good copy, Arsenal on the other hand are a story of a team in decline whose manager has gone insane. This is all because they compete in an environment against the 3rd largest club in the world and a money-making machine but indebted to millions who need sustained success to stave off creditors and 2 teams funded by billionaires who work off false financial models.  Anyone who knows Arsenal football club know they often go years without winning a trophy, I'm a child of the 80s and winning the league cup in 87 was fantastic, losing it in 88 not so good, anyhow I divulge. Success is relative and trophies use only be a reward of success now they are the definition of failure.

Sports reporting has become seriously unbalanced and where no story exists the media try and try to create, the EPL has become the worst model, a soap opera for men where flash cars and super models wives have replaced tactical insight and debates around formations and the benefit of the catenaccio system of play.

And it's easy to become wrapped up in such stories, that is the power of media manipulation but I now find myself only reading an article in an on-line newspaper as a basis so that I can go through the comments sections as that is generally where the insightful and knowledgeable analysis is to be found, likewise on forums, taking the EPL as the context the Arsenal and Liverpool threads on this board are generally full of good discussion and observations.

Liverpool and Arsenal play this weekend, the losers will be in crisis but in reality a team will have just lost it's first football match of the season, players come and players go but the club as Leeds fans will testify will always remain constant.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ludermor on August 16, 2011, 08:32:57 AM
Ah Jasus Dinny almost every report i have seen of the match ( and seperate articles after) have vilified Barton!! And most only give a passing reference to Song stamping on him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 16, 2011, 09:20:39 AM
How come all arsenal games seem to be big games. If we lose these two european games and do not qualify for the CL it will be harder to get quality players in seeing that we will not break the bank to sign them. No rvp and the boss sitting in the stands will lead to a interesting night.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on August 16, 2011, 10:07:41 AM
QuoteLiverpool and Arsenal play this weekend, the losers will be in crisis but in reality a team will have just lost it's first football match of the season, players come and players go but the club as Leeds fans will testify will always remain constant.

Yep.  Leeds are in crisis already; two games played, no points.  Still getting full houses though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 10:14:15 AM
Dinny, I don't share your dismissiveness. Like you, I was a child of the times when Arsenal would pop their head out of the clouds every now and again and disappear, although never a bottom half team. The Don Howe era was uninspiring but competitive.

All that changed 25 years ago when George Graham took over. 1987, 1888, 1989 and 1991. The were winning things and making finals. They became the first English side back into the European Cup. People across the globe were taking notice. The first team to do the cup double in '93. Back to back Euro finals in '94 and '95. That type of international exposure allowed Arsenal to attract the likes of Bergkamp. Then Wenger, the stadium, the players and it elevated Arsenal to almost superpower level without actually winning the CL.

The Arsenal of 2011 is a different club to the Arsenal of 1986. I would find it unacceptable if Tyrone reverted back to the footballing county it was before 1986, winning one title a decade and getting hammered any time they met a non-Ulster side. Those days are gone because the county has developed. Arsenal, through reaching the CL every year and attracting world class players, have become a different club from what they were 25 years ago and should never return to that. That's the challenge.

At the minute, given the quality of the squad, there's a chance that Wenger's present side could be left behind and lose what they've built. It's not a crisis but anyone with a smidgeon of foresight can see that the next 12 months are potentially choppy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2011, 10:48:41 AM
Unacceptable? - If they end up ala Villa, Everton or worse Leeds, will you give up on them?

I'm not dismissive as such, there is validity in some of the criticisms but too many seem like personal attacks on Wenger and the negativity around any article on Arsenal is what I'm actually dismissive of, there is no middle ground or objective reporting.

Even 12 months is short-term-ism in my opinion, when the stadium is clear of debt, when UEFA's financial fair-play kicks in, that should be the time to judge Arsenal. Even Wenger's comments on the Fabregas transfer fee(see below) are pure common sense, Wenger cares about Arsenal and cares about his players, the more I actually think about it, the future of Arsenal is dependent on Wenger staying. If he leaves then Arsenal will be in crisis because all his future planning will be evaporated and Arsenal could well turn into a Leeds or Newcastle as they try to compete in the now.

Arsenal supporters in my opinion should be wary of what they wish for.
Quote
We sold Cesc for a reduced fee," said the Arsenal manager.

"If Cesc is for sale and you can make an auction between Real Madrid, Chelsea and Manchester City, you will certainly get more money, but he just wanted to go to Barcelona.

"If he was on the market to any club we would have got more money, but we did want to get a decent fee.

"That's what I'm paid for. You cannot say because you want to get the deal done as quickly as possible: 'Just take him and give us what you want'.

"You have to fight for your rights. What is good is that you call multi-million pound players 'cheap'."

Wenger believes there is a possibility that Fabregas will return to the Emirates Stadium at some point in the distant future.

He said: "Cesc went because he was desperate to play for his hometown club, where he was educated.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on August 16, 2011, 11:10:58 AM
I'm with Dinny on this one; as a football fan I'd hate to see Arsenal doing anything differently, even at the cost of trophies.  Gambling the hard-built system for temporary successes would be a significant backwards step.  And allowing the beancounters/MBA graduates to run the football side of the organisation will just result in another financial nightmare. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 11:48:20 AM
It's not a case of doing anything different. It's a matter of player judgement. Buying Squillaci represents what I'm on about. It doesn't have to be about money. Wenger in the past has bought quality players for next to nothing. Success also attracts the type of player Arsenal need to remain at the top.

Denilson, Eboue and even Walcott. Not good enough. Chamackh, Rosicky, Bendtner - flattered to deceive. A back four the likes of Bolton, Stoke and Wigan intimidate. There are holes developing all over the squad and the problems don't appear to be addressed; at the minute they've worsened. The better players are leaving.

If other sides start to overtake Arsenal then they'll have a hard job getting back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2011, 12:38:59 PM
Harsh on Walcott and Chamackh and Eboue was good until about 2 years ago. Bendtner and Denislon had youthful promise but agree aren't good enough and Rosicky was ruined by injury.

Squillaci, hindsight is wonderful but every manager signs a dud or 2.

Stoke intimidate most sides at the set-piece, it's what they do, even Lionheart Terry was uncomfortable at times on Sunday Arsenal aside from have lost only twice to Bolton or Wigan in about 4 years, and those two defeats wee more Arsenal choking than anything Wigan or Bolton did.

Assess the squad on the 1st of Sept.

Keep the faith O'Neill.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 12:49:17 PM
I enjoy the bad days.

Diaby - not good enough. Kochelney - too light. Gibbs - not convinced. Sagna - he worried me on Sat. Walcott is stupid. Arshavin is in no man's land. Ramsey and Wilshere - fine I suppose. Vela - in space?

5-0 tonight. RVP hat trick from the stands.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: seafoid on August 16, 2011, 03:37:54 PM
2 very good articles about Fabregas

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/aug/15/cesc-fabregas-barcelona-return

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/15/barcelona-cesc-fabregas-arsenal-tears
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on August 16, 2011, 05:29:15 PM
Why did Gervinho not get an extra game ban for a "frivolous" appeal or does that rule only apply to United?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 05:47:05 PM
Nasri giving off stink to French press about Arsenal fans. I thought fans were wrong to sing what they did at the weekend.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on August 16, 2011, 05:58:59 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 05:47:05 PM
Nasri giving off stink to French press about Arsenal fans. I thought fans were wrong to sing what they did at the weekend.

Was it the Arsenal fans singing "spend some f**king money" on Sat. Heard it on TV and assumed it was Newcastle fans getting at Ashley but I've seen in a couple of places that it was Arsenal..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 06:30:47 PM
No, twas the Sami is a Cnut one.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on August 16, 2011, 06:54:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 06:30:47 PM
No, twas the Sami is a Cnut one.

Sorry, poorly worded question the first time. During the game the other evening you could clearly here fans singing "spend some f**king money" was it Arsenal fans as ive seen suggested? I'd consider that to be as bad or worse than slagging off a player who clearly wants away??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 07:00:12 PM
Anyway, will they win tonight? I've stuck my gaa bet winnings over the weekend on them ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 07:24:08 PM
Arsenal:
Chesney,
Sagna, Vermaelen, Kochelney, Gibbs,
Song,
Ramsey, Rosicky, Walcott,
Gervinho Chamakh
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 07:35:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 12:49:17 PM
I enjoy the bad days.

Diaby - not good enough. Kochelney - too light. Gibbs - not convinced. Sagna - he worried me on Sat. Walcott is stupid. Arshavin is in no man's land. Ramsey and Wilshere - fine I suppose. Vela - in space?

5-0 tonight. RVP hat trick from the stands.

Ok put a couple of pounds on that and a 5-1. On TV?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 07:38:43 PM
TV3.

Have no idea what Udinese are like apart from the fact that only Ronaldo has scored more league goals in 2011 than Di Natale!

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 07:45:06 PM
Plenty of empty seats.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 07:49:03 PM
Great ball in by Ramsey for Walcott's goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 07:55:55 PM
Tasty game - plenty of heavy tackles.

Udinese look rusty but lightning on the break.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 08:00:26 PM
1 down 4 to go ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 08:04:27 PM
Arsenal's goal - http://i.imgur.com/qBiPS.gif
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 08:12:30 PM
Bit of passion from the Arse today but can be carved right open. Pathetic attempt at a tackle by Sagna.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 08:19:57 PM
Arsenal brilliant leading up to the box but terrible when giving that final ball!! Must be frustrating being a Arsenal fan at times
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 08:20:54 PM
35 mins 1-0. Arsenal could score a few here but are very dodgy in defensive midfield.

Arsenal lacking that bit of class with the final ball.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 08:24:10 PM
Seeing nothing worthwhile in Chamakh
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 08:38:36 PM
1-0 at HT.

Arsenal need to keep a clean sheet here. They'll be some prospect in Italy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 09:03:20 PM
Arsenal really poor this half. (60 mins).

Udinese the better side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 09:05:23 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 08:38:36 PM
1-0 at HT.

Arsenal need to keep a clean sheet here. They'll be some prospect in Italy.

At this rate Arsenal will concede a goal. Can't/wont pass the ball into dangerous areas (like Tottenham)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 09:12:33 PM
Horrible offensively. Walcott's as thick as two planks and Chamakh is nothing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 16, 2011, 09:27:54 PM
Hanging on like a snotter here.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2011, 09:29:08 PM
would be typical that i bet them and they can only draw
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 09:34:17 PM
A lot of fine agricultural defending but feck me - this is a different Arsenal.
Title: Caption Competition
Post by: muppet on August 16, 2011, 09:37:04 PM
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2011/8/16/1313504753116/Laurent-Koscielny-Tomas-R-007.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 09:38:41 PM
A bit of a shambles.

OK, Wilshere and Van Persie add a bit of class but Arsenal are very ordinary.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 16, 2011, 10:20:44 PM
would have being nice to have an extra goal for next wednesday night. liverpool up next could be interesting. :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Caption Competition
Post by: Puckoon on August 16, 2011, 10:24:44 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 16, 2011, 09:37:04 PM
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2011/8/16/1313504753116/Laurent-Koscielny-Tomas-R-007.jpg)

да, хорошо я спрашивал у Самира его проход стоянки, и он отдал меня и сказал, что "я - все еще игрок Арсенала Вы небольшое российское влагалище".
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 16, 2011, 10:29:56 PM
Wenger got his wrists slapped for phoning pat rice during the first half by uefa
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orangemac on August 16, 2011, 11:06:55 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 11:48:20 AM
It's not a case of doing anything different. It's a matter of player judgement. Buying Squillaci represents what I'm on about. It doesn't have to be about money. Wenger in the past has bought quality players for next to nothing. Success also attracts the type of player Arsenal need to remain at the top.

If other sides start to overtake Arsenal then they'll have a hard job getting back.
Man City have already overtaken Arsenal and it is unlikely Chelsea will slip out of the top4 so Arsenal are battling with Liverpool and possibly Spurs for the 4th spot.

It is about judgement. Squillaci, Kochelny are just 2 examples. The dogs in the street knew Fabregas was going so why wasn't this sorted at the end of the season. £30m invested would have made a big difference, bring in Jagielka £20m, Scott Parker from West Ham and take Shay Given as part of Clichy deal.

Arsenal were rudderless tonight, no backbone and no leaders in the team. Van Persie and Wilshere will help but not enough. There is a sense of sloppiness and drift around Arsenal which should worry Arsenal fans.

The Carling Cup debacle, finishing 2nd in their CL group last year which meant playing Barca, finishing 4th in the league which meant the tough tie they now face.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2011, 11:11:38 PM
Didn't see the whole game only the highlights but will accentuate the positive.

Successive clean sheets
A goal for Walcott who could progress in the central striker role
Ground out a win, the trademark of champions no?
The quadruple is still on
more game time for Ramsey
Chesney Hawkes is going to top class for the Goons this season.
Gervinho and Chamakh bringing back Hall and Oates...

A Centre-back, a left back, defensive midfielder and a striker please Mr Wenger.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 11:27:39 PM
Walcott didn't play the central role.
Chesney was dodgy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2011, 11:41:30 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 16, 2011, 11:27:39 PM
Walcott didn't play the central role.
Chesney was dodgy.

into central role I meant , only say Chesney's saves not the dodgyness

O'Neill I feel you are starting to drown in the sea of negativity surrounding Arsenal, chin up old bean.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 17, 2011, 08:33:38 AM
Nasra now saying he is not bitter and angry this morning.  Thanks for clearing that up. Another count of a lazy journalist.

Nanas08 Samir Nasri Official
Just to make things clear i dont have a facebook so i never said i was leaving with bitterness the guy who said that use a fake account
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 17, 2011, 10:59:06 AM
How many days left in this transfer window?

Iniesta, Xavi and Messi would be nice. Throw in Vidic, Puyol and Rooney. London life, good football, £5 hotdogs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on August 17, 2011, 11:44:52 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 17, 2011, 10:59:06 AM
How many days left in this transfer window?

Iniesta, Xavi and Messi would be nice. Throw in Vidic, Puyol and Rooney. London life, good football, £5 hotdogs.

here is a surprise;;;;;;;;;;

SOCCER Tottenham Snap

2011-08-17 10:32:27.525 GMT





     Aug. 17 (Press Association) -- Tottenham are in talks with Manchester City over a move for striker Emmanuel Adebayor, Spurs manager Harry Redknapp confirmed today.



-0- Aug/17/2011 10:32 GMT


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 17, 2011, 12:24:11 PM
Arsene: "Campbell could join the Club, Gervinho has joined the Club, Carl Jenkinson and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain have joined the Club and people forget that. "

That's alright then.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 17, 2011, 11:20:45 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/football_focus/14516217.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/football_focus/14516217.stm)

Patrick Viera on Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 18, 2011, 11:51:57 AM
Looks like Nasri could be gone by tomorrow, £22m for a player in the last year of his contract, £200k a week plus £5m signing on fee. Seriously I know Wenger likes to shop in Aldi but how can any club compete with that  ???

It will be only be good business if Wenger though does a bit of shopping in Harrods. He must has close to £100m to spend so bloody well spend some of it ya tight git....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on August 18, 2011, 12:03:09 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 18, 2011, 11:51:57 AM
Looks like Nasri could be gone by tomorrow, £22m for a player in the last year of his contract, £200k a week plus £5m signing on fee. Seriously I know Wenger likes to shop in Aldi but how can any club compete with that  ???

It will be only be good business if Wenger though does a bit of shopping in Harrods. He must has close to £100m to spend so bloody well spend some of it ya tight git....

Does that include the 30 mil they've already spent this summer?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 18, 2011, 12:49:28 PM
£30 million  ???

Arsenal try their best not to disclose fees but from the Guardian

Chamberlain was £5m up front with another £5m in add-ons, Gervinho £10m and Campbell and Jenkinso signed for a reported £1m each so £22m so that leaves about £70m plus in the kitty if you base it on Fabregas (£35m), Nasri (£22m), Bendtner (£11m) and Eboue (£3m) plus the alleged £30m in the kitty for Mr Wenger already.

They could just pay money of the stadium though  8)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 18, 2011, 01:30:35 PM
i wonder has fabregas any regrets ? Years trying to win a medal in London and he is barely off the plane in Spain until he had a winners medal !
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on August 18, 2011, 03:15:11 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 18, 2011, 12:49:28 PM
£30 million  ???

Arsenal try their best not to disclose fees but from the Guardian

Chamberlain was £5m up front with another £5m in add-ons, Gervinho £10m and Campbell and Jenkinso signed for a reported £1m each so £22m so that leaves about £70m plus in the kitty if you base it on Fabregas (£35m), Nasri (£22m), Bendtner (£11m) and Eboue (£3m) plus the alleged £30m in the kitty for Mr Wenger already.

They could just pay money of the stadium though  8)

Sorry thought the southampton kid went for 18 mil.

Has Bendtner left? Who in their right mind would pay 11 mil?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Bingo on August 18, 2011, 03:23:36 PM
Should Arsenal not be all over Modric and others. I know its early but i'm sure they know for weeks that Fab and Nasri were going and replacements will be needed.

I thought Rafa was stubborn but Wegner takes the biscuit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 18, 2011, 04:08:29 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on August 18, 2011, 03:15:11 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 18, 2011, 12:49:28 PM
£30 million  ???

Arsenal try their best not to disclose fees but from the Guardian

Chamberlain was £5m up front with another £5m in add-ons, Gervinho £10m and Campbell and Jenkinso signed for a reported £1m each so £22m so that leaves about £70m plus in the kitty if you base it on Fabregas (£35m), Nasri (£22m), Bendtner (£11m) and Eboue (£3m) plus the alleged £30m in the kitty for Mr Wenger already.

They could just pay money of the stadium though  8)

Sorry thought the southampton kid went for 18 mil.

Has Bendtner left? Who in their right mind would pay 11 mil?

Stoke, Munich and Lisbon all interested, Lisbon have had a 9 mill offer rejected as The Arse as is their stubborn way are holding out for 11 m.

He's a better player than Chamakh just not as good as he thinks he is..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 18, 2011, 05:27:15 PM
So Arsene has some money to spend - trouble is anyone we go for is going to be over inflated right now due to this perception (truth) that we desperately need to strengthen the squad.

Should he pay over the odds?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 18, 2011, 11:04:50 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on August 18, 2011, 05:27:15 PM
So Arsene has some money to spend - trouble is anyone we go for is going to be over inflated right now due to this perception (truth) that we desperately need to strengthen the squad.

Should he pay over the odds?

Yes but he won't.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 18, 2011, 11:12:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 18, 2011, 11:04:50 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on August 18, 2011, 05:27:15 PM
So Arsene has some money to spend - trouble is anyone we go for is going to be over inflated right now due to this perception (truth) that we desperately need to strengthen the squad.

Should he pay over the odds?

Yes but he won't.

He wont, or is not allowed ? If it's the latter, it;s a hard situation for a manager
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 18, 2011, 11:15:29 PM
scott dann didn't play for birmingham tonight. presume that was to stop hime getting cup tied for the champions league / europa league.
So it will be him cahill or jagekla tomorrow / monday (hopefully)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hashtag on August 19, 2011, 09:21:10 AM
Quote from: ildanach on August 18, 2011, 11:15:29 PM
scott dann didn't play for birmingham tonight. presume that was to stop hime getting cup tied for the champions league / europa league.
So it will be him cahill or jagekla tomorrow / monday (hopefully)

If Dann had to played last night it would of meant he would only of been ineligible for any Champions League qualifiers. He would of been available for the Group Stages. In saying that if Arsenal fail to qualify for the CL he would of been ineligible for the Europa League (if he had of been played)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 20, 2011, 09:49:21 AM
I know Liverpool haven't won at Arsenal in yonks but I fear what they could do today.

Who's in midfield today? Ramsey, Dinny and Puckoon. Gerry on the wing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 20, 2011, 11:53:23 AM
Chesney
Sagna - Kos - Verm - Jenkinson
Frimpong - Ramsey - Arshavin - Walcott
NASRI
Van P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 20, 2011, 11:55:04 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 20, 2011, 11:53:23 AM
Chesney
Sagna - Kos - Verm - Jenkinson
Frimpong - Ramsey - Arshavin - Walcott
NASRI
Van P

who the f**k is he ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 20, 2011, 11:56:10 AM
He's one of the Frimpongs from Glenelly.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 20, 2011, 11:57:34 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 20, 2011, 11:56:10 AM
He's one of the Frimpongs from Glenelly.

:D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on August 20, 2011, 12:31:49 PM
anyone know which sopcast channel the game is on?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on August 20, 2011, 12:55:29 PM
Be funny if Nasri scored and kissed the badge
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Worker on August 20, 2011, 01:18:20 PM
Quote from: new devil on August 20, 2011, 12:55:29 PM
Be funny if Nasri scored and kissed the badge

all footballers aren't as daft as wazza
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: new devil on August 20, 2011, 01:19:44 PM
Yea because he's the only player that does it

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 20, 2011, 01:54:40 PM
Has 0-0 all over it though Suarez might change the nature of the game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on August 20, 2011, 01:58:15 PM
Quote from: The Worker on August 20, 2011, 01:18:20 PM
Quote from: new devil on August 20, 2011, 12:55:29 PM
Be funny if Nasri scored and kissed the badge

all footballers aren't as daft as wazza

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WpqfL7wS8aM/TVACJwcmmsI/AAAAAAAAAe8/TwBR5IUZIMM/s1600/180827_199042680109925_100000125824424_827404_3418195_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 20, 2011, 02:03:02 PM
Oxlade-Chamberlain, Chamakh, Miyaichi, Lansbury, Bendtner = the bench.

Put the fear of God in any team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 20, 2011, 02:22:47 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 20, 2011, 02:03:02 PM
Oxlade-Chamberlain, Chamakh, Miyaichi, Lansbury, Bendtner = the bench.

Put the fear of God in any team.

Of that lot I'd bring on the bench.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2011, 04:58:54 PM
Time to get behind the Arsenal Ladies. One more win and the title is ours.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: CorkMan on August 21, 2011, 06:59:01 PM
Nasri gone yet?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2011, 08:10:39 PM
(http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/desktops/oct_10/gun__1286530443_0.jpg)

Sun 28th Aug Away to Liverpool    14:00.

Win that and it's the 8th straight title.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on August 22, 2011, 10:17:24 AM
and then Chelsea sign Mata!!!!!!! ffs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on August 22, 2011, 02:44:49 PM
Utd getting more money from dhl for their training bibs than we get for our first team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: onefaircounty on August 22, 2011, 02:48:17 PM
Quote from: Boycey on August 20, 2011, 01:58:15 PM
Quote from: The Worker on August 20, 2011, 01:18:20 PM
Quote from: new devil on August 20, 2011, 12:55:29 PM
Be funny if Nasri scored and kissed the badge

all footballers aren't as daft as wazza

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_WpqfL7wS8aM/TVACJwcmmsI/AAAAAAAAAe8/TwBR5IUZIMM/s1600/180827_199042680109925_100000125824424_827404_3418195_n.jpg)

Deceptive camera angle, another one shows clearly he is not kissing the badge he never kissed the Liverpool badge.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 23, 2011, 02:02:34 PM
Quote from: CorkMan on August 21, 2011, 06:59:01 PM
Nasri gone yet?

Yip, on his way to Etihad to sign her up, don't know what fee is but would imagine would be up to £30m.  So the professor has at least £65m in the bank and probably another £30M available, but who is there out there to buy.  Liverpool seem to have turned attention to Coates so maybe leaves a clear run for the likes of Cahill or Shawcross. Who else though?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 23, 2011, 02:43:19 PM
Problem is though BC1, if Arsenal don't qualify for the UCL group stages tomorrow night the financial model needs adjusting, so at least £40m will have to be redirected to clear stadium debt. The cost of financial prudence.

Arsenal need a CB, LB, DM and an out and out striker. The CB and striker need to be top class, can't see it happening to be honest and come the 1st of Sept will probably be making arrangements to visit O'Neill in the hospital after his melt-down.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 23, 2011, 02:45:49 PM
Unbelievable to me but certainly not others, Wenger 7/1 for the chop...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 23, 2011, 02:50:26 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 23, 2011, 02:43:19 PM
Problem is though BC1, if Arsenal don't qualify for the UCL group stages tomorrow night the financial model needs adjusting, so at least £40m will have to be redirected to clear stadium debt. The cost of financial prudence.

Arsenal need a CB, LB, DM and an out and out striker. The CB and striker need to be top class, can't see it happening to be honest and come the 1st of Sept will probably be making arrangements to visit O'Neill in the hospital after his melt-down.

If they don't qualify it will be a very hard season for Wenger as any hopes of bringing in the requires talent will be severly dented by not having CL football.  The only thing is that long term the club will be stable but short term there will be no trophies on the side board.  No trophies since 2005 and it likely that there will be none this season, Wenger's principles may be his undoing.  £22m for Nasri btw, should have had £5m more IMHO.

O'Neill having a meltdown? I@d pay to see that ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: EC Unique on August 23, 2011, 02:53:48 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14628121.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14628121.stm)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 23, 2011, 03:07:44 PM
Quote£22m for Nasri btw, should have had £5m more IMHO.

In isolation brilliant business, free agent in January and £8m profit on him especially that has only 1 good 6 month spell in England. They were never going to get anymore, only Man City were interested in him.

Resigned to the fact that Arsenal are this years Liverpool....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on August 23, 2011, 03:32:49 PM
Quote from: Boycey on August 15, 2011, 02:13:34 PM
Any of you good Arsenal folk point me in the direction of 2 tickets for home game with Swansea on the 10th September (I think).

I'll try again, will this match go on general sale or do I need to look for someone with a membership to buy the tickets for me??

Please and thanks  :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Bingo on August 23, 2011, 04:01:41 PM
Quote from: Boycey on August 23, 2011, 03:32:49 PM
Quote from: Boycey on August 15, 2011, 02:13:34 PM
Any of you good Arsenal folk point me in the direction of 2 tickets for home game with Swansea on the 10th September (I think).

I'll try again, will this match go on general sale or do I need to look for someone with a membership to buy the tickets for me??

Please and thanks  :)

Apparently the liverpool game last week was on general sale in the days before hand. Thats according to a few on LFC forums who acquired tickets that way.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on August 23, 2011, 04:25:01 PM
Quote from: Boycey on August 23, 2011, 03:32:49 PM
Quote from: Boycey on August 15, 2011, 02:13:34 PM
Any of you good Arsenal folk point me in the direction of 2 tickets for home game with Swansea on the 10th September (I think).

I'll try again, will this match go on general sale or do I need to look for someone with a membership to buy the tickets for me??

Please and thanks  :)

arsenal will all go general sale this season - last year they were easy to get, this year they will be giving them away for swansea etc.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 23, 2011, 04:31:26 PM
Ladies draw Bobruichanka from Belarus in Champions League.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on August 23, 2011, 05:12:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 23, 2011, 04:31:26 PM
Ladies draw Bobruichanka from Belarus in Champions League.

Who did Peamount get?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 23, 2011, 05:34:01 PM
Paris Saint-Germain FC

Urging all Gooners to get behind their ladies. Our best (only) shot in Europe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 23, 2011, 06:23:38 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 23, 2011, 05:34:01 PM
Paris Saint-Germain FC

Urging all Gooners to get behind their ladies. Our best (only) shot in Europe.

I'll definitely be behind my lady  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 09:41:06 AM
Fight or flight, Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on August 24, 2011, 01:54:12 PM
Quote from: spiritof91and94 on August 23, 2011, 04:25:01 PM
Quote from: Boycey on August 23, 2011, 03:32:49 PM
Quote from: Boycey on August 15, 2011, 02:13:34 PM
Any of you good Arsenal folk point me in the direction of 2 tickets for home game with Swansea on the 10th September (I think).

I'll try again, will this match go on general sale or do I need to look for someone with a membership to buy the tickets for me??

Please and thanks  :)

arsenal will all go general sale this season - last year they were easy to get, this year they will be giving them away for swansea etc.

thought as much, cheers
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 24, 2011, 02:40:29 PM
It's gotten to the stage where the signing of Joey Barton would make me smile.

I reckon that Mike Ashley is a total tool wagon - Barton is playing good ball at the minute.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: EC Unique on August 24, 2011, 04:30:20 PM
Heard on the radio today - 4 wins in the last 17 games! Wenger's repalcement is prob being sought right now!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on August 24, 2011, 06:39:07 PM
Rumours going around that Arsenal could still qualify even if Udinese knock them out tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 07:00:04 PM
Chesney
Jenkinson, Vermaelen, Djourou, Sagna;
Song, Frimpong, Ramsey;
Walcott, Gervinho, Van Persie.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 07:42:07 PM
Fenerbahce have been booted out of the Champions League because their hospitality buffets only stretch to 14 courses, not the 16 demanded by Uefa, and that means there is a spare place in this year's tournament. It has been suggested it may go to the play-off losers with the highest coefficient (Arsenal are second on that list behind Bayern Munich, who are already through), although this has not been confirmed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 24, 2011, 07:44:30 PM
There was to be an announcement at 7.30. I assume in typical UEFA fashion it will be at 9pm following multiple long speeches and musical interludes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:02:08 PM
Gervinho lively but they're feckin dangerous on the break. Speedy hoors down both wings.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:03:51 PM
Jenkinson struggling down that side. Yer man's a flier.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:07:59 PM
Ramsey's having a stinker. That's three in a row.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:14:56 PM
Fcuk sake Walcott. Just run in a straight line towards goal. Don't pass, don't try to dribble past players, don't cross.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 24, 2011, 08:18:30 PM
Entertainment value is high so far. Walcott should have buried his chance.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:21:22 PM
Walcott - whole net to aim at - hits it at the keeper.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 24, 2011, 08:24:03 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 07:42:07 PM
Fenerbahce have been booted out of the Champions League because their hospitality buffets only stretch to 14 courses, not the 16 demanded by Uefa, and that means there is a spare place in this year's tournament. It has been suggested it may go to the play-off losers with the highest coefficient (Arsenal are second on that list behind Bayern Munich, who are already through), although this has not been confirmed.


2016: BREAKING NEWS
UEFA has confirmed that Trabzonspor have replaced fellow Turkish side Fenerbahce in the Champions League group stage. Fenerbahce were withdrawn by the Turkish federation earlier today because of an ongoing match-fixing investigation.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on August 24, 2011, 08:25:44 PM
Mixed night for Udinese, great goal by Di Natale.....

...but ex-player Gadaffi having a rough time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:27:41 PM
.....rock bottom....

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 08:29:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:27:41 PM
.....rock bottom....

I have I missed the second goal for Udinesse..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:29:41 PM
(http://addictionrecoveryhope.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/rockbottom.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:30:39 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 08:29:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:27:41 PM
.....rock bottom....

I have I missed the second goal for Udinesse..

Ah come on Dinny - they're being outplayed in a Champions League qualifier.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 08:32:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:30:39 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 08:29:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:27:41 PM
.....rock bottom....

I have I missed the second goal for Udinesse..

Ah come on Dinny - they're being outplayed in a Champions League qualifier.

Yea but the haven't reached the bottom yet, won't be long mind...

I'm an optimist Arsenal will score



but Udinesse will probably score 4...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:37:30 PM
Do Arsenal have to play in the Europa Cup?

Humiliating.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:40:51 PM
Captain Van Persie - what do you have?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: stew on August 24, 2011, 08:42:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:37:30 PM
Do Arsenal have to play in the Europa Cup?

Humiliating.

Get used to it pal, if the professor is allowed to stay and spend no money you will be fighting for survival in the Premiership.

Even if they get through they will be lucky to get through the group stage and that being the case maybe having a rattle at the Europa would be a better bet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:51:33 PM
At no stage over the two legs can it be said that Arsenal were the better team or deserve to be in the CL.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:56:16 PM
That's it you Dutch man.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 08:56:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:40:51 PM
Captain Van Persie - what do you have?

8)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 24, 2011, 08:56:58 PM
get in there robin..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 24, 2011, 09:00:35 PM
what a save
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:03:11 PM
Szczesny is big f*cker, going to be a superb goalie, wonder how much he will got to Man City for?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: whitegoodman on August 24, 2011, 09:04:37 PM
Great save.  I could see these boys getting another 2 but i could also see arsenal getting another one so yas should be safe enough..........I think.

Am not an arsenal fan but would like to see them go through to see if and who wenger will spend the money on.  It would really be make or break time for him imo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 09:05:36 PM
Also think Arsenal need another.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 24, 2011, 09:09:07 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 09:05:36 PM
Also think Arsenal need another.
+1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:09:48 PM
Walcott and Ramsey need to go off, the Russian and the Ox couldn't be any worse..

Definitely need another..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 09:10:41 PM
Theo you useless dumb hoor.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: whitegoodman on August 24, 2011, 09:11:00 PM
whats that ur saying dinny lol
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:11:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:09:48 PM
Walcott and Ramsey need to go off, the Russian and the Ox couldn't be any worse..

Definitely need another..

f*cking walcott..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 24, 2011, 09:11:13 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:09:48 PM
Walcott and Ramsey need to go off, the Russian and the Ox couldn't be any worse..

Definitely need another..

premature call there!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 24, 2011, 09:11:45 PM
Nice. He can go off now Dinny.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 09:12:46 PM
Newcastle scored 4 around this time onwards.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:14:56 PM
Walcott just needed the motivation of a bunch of paddies on a forum whinging about him, it worked.

Still need another...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on August 24, 2011, 09:15:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:14:56 PM
Walcott just needed the motivation of a bunch of paddies on a forum whinging about him, it worked.

Still need another...

Another... Paddy?.......or Walcott?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 09:16:56 PM
Jenkinson is a young Kilbane
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on August 24, 2011, 09:18:05 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:51:33 PM
At no stage over the two legs can it be said that Arsenal were the better team or deserve to be in the CL.
Has the two Arsenal goals changed your opinion?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 24, 2011, 09:15:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:14:56 PM
Walcott just needed the motivation of a bunch of paddies on a forum whinging about him, it worked.

Still need another...

Another... Paddy?.......or Walcott?

Shut up you, no doubt we'll hear how proud you are of their performance and how you'll refuse to criticise them...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 09:19:58 PM
Quote from: ross4life on August 24, 2011, 09:18:05 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 08:51:33 PM
At no stage over the two legs can it be said that Arsenal were the better team or deserve to be in the CL.
Has the two Arsenal goals changed your opinion?

No. Not as fickle as the plastic Manures.

Arsenal are leaking everywhere. Luckily, Udinese's heads have dropped.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 09:21:30 PM
We're gonna win the league.

Arsene knows.

Theo. Theo. Theo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 24, 2011, 09:22:48 PM
if we qualify for the champions league we have close on 50 million out of today 25 for nasri & 25 for tv. Surely we can get 4 players for the near on 100 million he has to spend with the lure of champions league as an incentive
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 09:23:54 PM
Messi, Di Natale, Vidic and yer man from Glentoran who scored the back heeler.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 24, 2011, 09:28:35 PM
cahill, jakelka, hazard, joe cole (think he could do a job!), and a holding midfielder?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on August 24, 2011, 09:29:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 24, 2011, 09:15:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:14:56 PM
Walcott just needed the motivation of a bunch of paddies on a forum whinging about him, it worked.

Still need another...

Another... Paddy?.......or Walcott?

Shut up you, no doubt we'll hear how proud you are of their performance and how you'll refuse to criticise them...

I'm currently looked out of the house.

How are we doing?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 24, 2011, 09:31:31 PM
Quote from: ildanach on August 24, 2011, 09:28:35 PM
cahill, jakelka, hazard, joe cole (think he could do a job!), and a holding midfielder?
Who do you spend the other 99 million on?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 09:35:16 PM
That's a feckin massive result in terms of the next 3-4 days.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on August 24, 2011, 09:36:55 PM
Someone said we will be this year's Liverpool.

As long as it is the Liverpool that scraped to a Champions League victory I won't mind.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:37:17 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 24, 2011, 09:29:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 24, 2011, 09:15:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:14:56 PM
Walcott just needed the motivation of a bunch of paddies on a forum whinging about him, it worked.

Still need another...

Another... Paddy?.......or Walcott?

Shut up you, no doubt we'll hear how proud you are of their performance and how you'll refuse to criticise them...

I'm currently looked out of the house.

How are we doing?

We won, that noise you heard was 1000 sports journalists closing their laptops in disgust...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 24, 2011, 09:39:46 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:37:17 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 24, 2011, 09:29:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 24, 2011, 09:15:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:14:56 PM
Walcott just needed the motivation of a bunch of paddies on a forum whinging about him, it worked.

Still need another...

Another... Paddy?.......or Walcott?

Shut up you, no doubt we'll hear how proud you are of their performance and how you'll refuse to criticise them...

I'm currently looked out of the house.

How are we doing?

We won, that noise you heard was 1000 sports journalists closing their laptops in disgust...
Not the auld "no-one likes us, we don't care" lament! All the sports journos I follow on Twitter said the wanted to see an Arsenal win.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: whitegoodman on August 24, 2011, 09:41:11 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:37:17 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 24, 2011, 09:29:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 24, 2011, 09:15:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:14:56 PM
Walcott just needed the motivation of a bunch of paddies on a forum whinging about him, it worked.

Still need another...

Another... Paddy?.......or Walcott?

Shut up you, no doubt we'll hear how proud you are of their performance and how you'll refuse to criticise them...

I'm currently looked out of the house.

How are we doing?

We won, that noise you heard was 1000 sports journalists closing their laptops in disgust...

A serious chip on that shoulder, ya would want to get that seen to
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 09:41:25 PM
I don't think that's what Dinny means. Many journos know that an Arsenal loss = 2 weeks of broken Arsenal crest stories.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Minder on August 24, 2011, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:37:17 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 24, 2011, 09:29:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 24, 2011, 09:15:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:14:56 PM
Walcott just needed the motivation of a bunch of paddies on a forum whinging about him, it worked.

Still need another...

Another... Paddy?.......or Walcott?

Shut up you, no doubt we'll hear how proud you are of their performance and how you'll refuse to criticise them...

I'm currently looked out of the house.

How are we doing?

We won, that noise you heard was 1000 sports journalists closing their laptops in disgust...

Yeah they were queuing up for Wengers head, for that reason alone i am happy enough with that result.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 09:43:54 PM
Liam Brady just said the gaaboard is a good gauge of supporters' temperature.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Minder on August 24, 2011, 09:44:10 PM
JackWilshere: Sorry Spurs fans....we will not be joining you this year! Enjoy :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on August 24, 2011, 09:45:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 09:43:54 PM
Liam Brady just said the gaaboard is a good gauge of supporters' temperature.

As in the anus is a more accurate place to measurement temperature than the mouth.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 24, 2011, 09:53:20 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 24, 2011, 09:44:10 PM
JackWilshere: Sorry Spurs fans....we will not be joining you this year! Enjoy :D

Speaking of Tweets I liked this exchange between Frimpong and Wilshere

@JackWilshere: Good luck to my friend @Nanas08 (mr Nasri) learnt a lot from him. World class player!

@EmmanuelF4: Will be missed!"Pffffff comeon Jack

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 09:56:10 PM
That was one hell of a save. Seaman like.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 24, 2011, 09:58:27 PM
were in pot 1 tomorrow , some tough teams in pots 2 and 3 though!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 10:00:10 PM
Utd on Sunday now.

Hopefully there'll be at least two quality new faces.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 24, 2011, 10:01:52 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 24, 2011, 09:56:10 PM
That was one hell of a save. Seaman McGreevy like.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 24, 2011, 11:53:33 PM
Probably shouldn't post this after the great result.

I wonder when all these "debts of gratitude" owed to Mr Wenger will result in money for new players!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14657732.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14657732.stm)

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 25, 2011, 10:55:04 AM
Great game last night.  Now for the group stages but it showed that the knockout stages give the most exciting football.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: irunthev on August 25, 2011, 03:53:48 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on August 24, 2011, 11:53:33 PM
Probably shouldn't post this after the great result.

I wonder when all these "debts of gratitude" owed to Mr Wenger will result in money for new players!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14657732.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14657732.stm)

You can't help but think as you look at the video that Nasri can't stop  smiling because of all the money he has made.... nothing to do with clubs or anything else.... he's just doubled his wages.... why wouldn't he smile
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ThatsTheFootball on August 25, 2011, 04:16:51 PM
any chance of at less one signing before the utd game? i doubt it,it will run right into the last hour of the window. a few i would love to see at arsenal:

One marquee signing- preferably Kaka, if not then Snedjier.
this M'Vila boy sounds like the business for midfield, Cahill and Baines.

thats my wishlist!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 25, 2011, 05:47:45 PM
ARSENAL, Marseille, Olympiakos, Borussia Dortmund

Tricky enough assignments on current form.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: CorkMan on August 25, 2011, 10:05:38 PM
Look at the group Man. City got. Good look geting out of that one mr. Nasri.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on August 25, 2011, 10:16:37 PM
I think City will win the group they are in. Munich, Villareal and Napoli are not going to be happy to have Citeh.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Minder on August 25, 2011, 10:30:27 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 25, 2011, 10:16:37 PM
I think City will win the group they are in. Munich, Villareal and Napoli are not going to be happy to have Citeh.

I agree. They have such a strong squad now, and can put out a stronger first XI than any of those teams.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on August 25, 2011, 10:36:59 PM
Spurs got out of a similar group last year shouldn't be any problem for City, Arsenal should also make the last 16.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 26, 2011, 09:34:15 PM
2nd trophy for Cesc in a fortnight, he must wonder why he left in the first place. A goal tonight too
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 26, 2011, 11:04:12 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on August 26, 2011, 09:34:15 PM
2nd trophy for Cesc in a fortnight, he must wonder why he left in the first place. A goal tonight too

3rd trophy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: CorkMan on August 28, 2011, 01:52:48 PM
Bad feeling about today. United gonna open a can o' whoopass
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Forever Green on August 28, 2011, 03:40:44 PM
ehm.....Arsenal are going to get fucked up today. Sorry Arsenal fans :(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: EC Unique on August 28, 2011, 05:40:32 PM
Spot on to the 2 boys above :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 28, 2011, 07:51:24 PM
CHAMPIONS

By Oliver Yew at Skelmersdale United FC

Arsenal Ladies clinched the inaugural FA Women's Super League title with a convincing 3-1 win over Liverpool Ladies.

Laura Harvey's side were inspired by Rachel Yankey's first-half brace before Liverpool pulled a goal back after a defensive mistake. But Kim Little's confident second-half penalty sealed the Gunners' win as they lifted the FA WSL trophy at Skelmersdale United Football Club.

Arsenal's next goal? The Continental Cup, which starts next weekend with another game against Liverpool.

With the destination of the WSL trophy riding on the outcome of the match Harvey's team could have been forgiven for feeling some nerves in the opening stages.

But if they did it did not show and the Gunners made the best possible start as Yankey fired the visitors ahead in the ninth minute.

Liverpool were looking to spoil Arsenal's rhythm and Michelle Evans nearly caught Emma Byrne off her line with a long-range effort but the Irish keeper recovered to make the save.

Despite Liverpool's resurgence it was Arsenal who looked the more threatening in front of goal with Yankey at the heart of everything.

And it was the forward who doubled her side's advantage and her tally for the afternoon after Ellen White made a excellent run down the right and picked out the lively Yankey, who poked home from 10 yards.

After the break Jayne Ludlow had the chance to extend her side's lead even further but her weak shot from the edge of the penalty area was easily saved by Gibbons.

The Gunners kept pressing for a third but to Liverpool's credit they never caved in and the home side were handed a lifeline by an Arsenal defensive mix-up.

In the 59th minute Byrne fumbled a regulation cross after a heavy collision with captain Faye White. The ball fell kindly for Reds striker Katie Brussell, who kept her composure to find the back of the net.

Despite the setback Arsenal looked to restore their advantage quickly and in the 73rd minute they had their opportunity as Liverpool full-back Emma James pulled down Ellen White in the box and the referee pointed to the spot.

Little stepped up to score her ninth goal of the season, restore her side's two-goal lead and leave them just over 15 minutes away from the Super League crown.

Harvey reacted by bringing Jordan Nobbs on for Carter as Arsenal looked to hold onto their advantage and the Gunners used all of their experience to hold on for the three points.

The final whistle sparked joyous celebrations from the Arsenal players and staff and they continued as Faye White held aloft the FA Women's Super League trophy for the first time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on August 28, 2011, 08:13:25 PM
Since the lockdown i have forgot what i was going to type

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/12/14/article-0-001BB67900000258-984_233x348.jpg)

All well congrats to the Arsenal Ladies.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 28, 2011, 09:10:01 PM
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Clubs/Club_Home/2011/8/28/1314557652292/Faye-White-and-Rachel-Yan-007.jpg)

Brilliant for the Ladies. Well done. Will raise a glass in celebration.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: CorkMan on August 28, 2011, 09:27:25 PM
So.........we just going to pretend today didn't happen?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 28, 2011, 09:35:08 PM
Quote from: CorkMan on August 28, 2011, 09:27:25 PM
So.........we just going to pretend today didn't happen?

There's nothing new to be said that hasn't been in the previous 3 weeks.

If nothing happens in the next three days then there's something badly up.

Those girls should have a parade.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: CorkMan on August 28, 2011, 09:41:05 PM
He'll probably make one more signing before Wednesday. Only thing wrong will be the signing will be some 'undiscovered' Ugandan teenager.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: tommysmith on August 28, 2011, 10:28:42 PM
Arsenal (http://www.nomad-forum.com/fudforum/images/smiley_icons/icon_lol.gif)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: The Worker on August 28, 2011, 10:35:40 PM
Can the thread title be changed to Arsenalol?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on August 28, 2011, 10:37:00 PM
Thanks to Dinny's ravings, I have that keeper in my fantasy team :) By the way, fair play to the Arsenal fans that applauded their team off at the end.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 28, 2011, 11:42:17 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2011, 10:37:00 PM
Thanks to Dinny's ravings, I have that keeper in my fantasy team :) By the way, fair play to the Arsenal fans that applauded their team off at the end.

:-[

In fairness did you see what he had playing in front of him today...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 28, 2011, 11:46:38 PM
Nasri must be breathing a sigh of relief tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 28, 2011, 11:47:26 PM
I miss Highbury - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgCJCrpiEiI&feature=related
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Orior on August 29, 2011, 12:19:53 AM
Why does everyone blame Wenger? Maybe its all the fault of Pat Rice?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 29, 2011, 01:39:31 AM
Quote from: Orior on August 29, 2011, 12:19:53 AM
Why does everyone blame Wenger? Maybe its all the fault of Pat Rice?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OemF_CV7ub4
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on August 29, 2011, 05:58:30 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 28, 2011, 09:35:08 PM
Quote from: CorkMan on August 28, 2011, 09:27:25 PM
So.........we just going to pretend today didn't happen?

There's nothing new to be said that hasn't been in the previous 3 weeks.

If nothing happens in the next three days then there's something badly up.

Those girls should have a parade.

Open-top?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on August 29, 2011, 08:58:12 AM
Wenger has annoyed the hell out of me at times over the years, but was not nice to see him in that situation yesterday.  Felt bad for the man, hopefully he gets things back on track and proves the doubters wrong. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 29, 2011, 10:14:30 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 29, 2011, 08:58:12 AM
Wenger has annoyed the hell out of me at times over the years, but was not nice to see him in that situation yesterday.  Felt bad for the man, hopefully he gets things back on track and proves the doubters wrong.
Right, who has hacked into nrico's account?!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 29, 2011, 01:55:37 PM
****UPDATE****

Wenger bought some wheaten bread this morning.

****UPDATE****
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 29, 2011, 02:29:13 PM
Arsenal Football Club has announced it will be writing to fans who travelled to Old Trafford on Sunday with an offer to cover the cost of a match ticket at a future Barclays Premier League away game.

A Club statement issued today said: "Sunday's result was obviously disappointing for everyone connected with the Club. Our travelling fans were magnificent throughout and we want to recognise their fantastic support. We will be writing to them shortly with the details."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 29, 2011, 02:57:31 PM
Maybe Arsenal players saw this thread and started playing like ladies.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Bingo on August 29, 2011, 03:04:45 PM
Lee Dixon hit the nail on the head last night. The combined squad numbers on the Arsenal bench was nearly twice the combined squad numbers on the United bench!!

I can see the point he was making ie inexperienced bench but it was a bizarre way of making it! He took some stick for it on twiiter. In fairness to Dixon, i think he is excellent on MoTD and is very insightful with his analysis. This was a step too far.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 29, 2011, 03:24:43 PM

Harry Redknapp is sitting in a pub drowning his sorrows when in walks a glum Arsene Wenger.

"Et tu Brute?" says Harry.

"Don't you f**king start, I'm fed up hearing the f**king score," replied Wenger
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on August 29, 2011, 05:49:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdpzyaMUp4c&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: CorkMan on August 29, 2011, 06:14:53 PM
Arsenal have signed a Korean fella. His name is Sum-Young-Wan.:D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Bingo on August 29, 2011, 08:22:43 PM
Yossi to arsenal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Boycey on August 29, 2011, 08:38:19 PM
Piers Morgan not happy about it on twitter, sad indictment on the world when his opinion on football is forced on us. He was waxing lyrical on Fox sports yesterday too. Give me Gary Neville any day ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 29, 2011, 08:51:40 PM
Fabregas starts ahead of Xavi tonight...and scores. Great understanding between him and Messi. We have Walcott and Chamakh
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Minder on August 29, 2011, 09:54:57 PM
Arsenal close to signing Brazilian LB Andre Santos from Fenerbache.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: irunthev on August 29, 2011, 10:02:14 PM
And they have fobbed Armand Traore off on QPR..... Don't care about how bad things seemed yesterday, but things have just got a whole let better for you by getting rid of him. Sadly we are the recipients. Warnock must have spent his Sunday taking one of his famous cycles around Richmond Park and missed yesterday's horrow display by the so called defender. Don't think even Jim McGuinness could make a defender out of Traore.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on August 30, 2011, 12:29:57 PM
QuoteArsenal Football Club has announced it will be writing to fans who travelled to Old Trafford on Sunday with an offer to cover the cost of a match ticket at a future Barclays Premier League away game.

A Club statement issued today said: "Sunday's result was obviously disappointing for everyone connected with the Club. Our travelling fans were magnificent throughout and we want to recognise their fantastic support. We will be writing to them shortly with the details."

If you receive mail regarding this BEWARE It may actually contain tickets to an Arsenal away match.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 30, 2011, 01:23:09 PM
Arsenal are in advanced talks with Werder Bremen's German international defender Per Mertesacker.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14717213.stm

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on August 30, 2011, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 30, 2011, 01:23:09 PM
Arsenal are in advanced talks with Werder Bremen's German international defender Per Mertesacker.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14717213.stm

Decent centre-half, but had a horror show during his time at Real Madrid, if I remember correctly. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 30, 2011, 03:52:24 PM
Yer man Santos doesn't inspire me. A Fernebache hack says he'll make Clichy look like Maldini. Unfit, indisciplined and can't hold a line he said. Should fit right in.

Sorry, positive thoughts. Positive thoughts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Minder on August 30, 2011, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 30, 2011, 03:52:24 PM
Yer man Santos doesn't inspire me. A Fernebache hack says he'll make Clichy look like Maldini. Unfit, indisciplined and can't hold a line he said. Should fit right in.

Sorry, positive thoughts. Positive thoughts.

Loves a night out according to some Turkish journalist.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: paco on August 30, 2011, 05:12:23 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on August 30, 2011, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 30, 2011, 01:23:09 PM
Arsenal are in advanced talks with Werder Bremen's German international defender Per Mertesacker.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14717213.stm

Decent centre-half, but had a horror show during his time at Real Madrid, if I remember correctly.

Mertesacker never played for Real Madrid, that was Christoph Metzelder.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on August 30, 2011, 05:14:06 PM
Quote from: paco on August 30, 2011, 05:12:23 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on August 30, 2011, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 30, 2011, 01:23:09 PM
Arsenal are in advanced talks with Werder Bremen's German international defender Per Mertesacker.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14717213.stm

Decent centre-half, but had a horror show during his time at Real Madrid, if I remember correctly.

Mertesacker never played for Real Madrid, that was Christoph Metzelder.

i hope they got the right Fella
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on August 31, 2011, 08:18:13 PM
feck me, we are not given arteta 90K a week so its of. wenger on his last legs i guess.

how many more 8 - 2 do need to have before wenger and the board wakens up
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on August 31, 2011, 08:37:09 PM
Bendtner loaned to sunderland
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on August 31, 2011, 08:39:17 PM
arshavin anyone?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: new devil on August 31, 2011, 08:50:44 PM
Arshavin has said he'd 8 2 leave........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Minder on August 31, 2011, 09:43:52 PM
Arteta back on, apparently.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 31, 2011, 10:05:17 PM
Quote from: new devil on August 31, 2011, 08:50:44 PM
Arshavin has said he'd 8 2 leave........

That was brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 31, 2011, 10:19:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 31, 2011, 10:05:17 PM
Quote from: new devil on August 31, 2011, 08:50:44 PM
Arshavin has said he'd 8 2 leave........

That was brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.
That's the standard unfortunately.

Although getting Arteta in at the last minute might seem good business I think the Gooners would have wanted someone more A-list.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 31, 2011, 10:32:45 PM
If he stays free from injury he would be A List imo. As good a midfielder in the Premiership on his day!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on August 31, 2011, 10:42:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 31, 2011, 10:05:17 PM
Quote from: new devil on August 31, 2011, 08:50:44 PM
Arshavin has said he'd 8 2 leave........

That was brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

I h8 2 agree with you but I give 8 out of 2 for originality.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 31, 2011, 10:43:41 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 31, 2011, 10:32:45 PM
If he stays free from injury he would be A List imo. As good a midfielder in the Premiership on his day!
To be discussed in April!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Orangemac on August 31, 2011, 10:49:43 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 31, 2011, 10:32:45 PM
If he stays free from injury he would be A List imo. As good a midfielder in the Premiership on his day!
He was average enough for Everton last year after coming back from injury but the 2 seasons before that was as good a central midfielder as there was around.

In any other era he would be a Spanish international and he deserves a chance at a bigger club, although how much longer Arseanl are seen as a big club is open to question.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ildanach on August 31, 2011, 10:54:51 PM
arteta deal almost through ;D.. was hoping for a holding midfielder though too :'(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 31, 2011, 11:01:18 PM
Quote from: ildanach on August 31, 2011, 10:54:51 PM
arteta deal almost through ;D.. was hoping for a holding midfielder though too :'(

I hate to be agreeing with Robbie Savage but you would have to think that Arsenal should have went for Scottie Parker for £5m ... Wenger certainly missed a trick there I think he would have been a huge player for them!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Orangemac on August 31, 2011, 11:40:24 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 31, 2011, 11:01:18 PM
Quote from: ildanach on August 31, 2011, 10:54:51 PM
arteta deal almost through ;D.. was hoping for a holding midfielder though too :'(

I hate to be agreeing with Robbie Savage but you would have to think that Arsenal should have went for Scottie Parker for £5m ... Wenger certainly missed a trick there I think he would have been a huge player for them!
Parker would have been a good option for Arsenal, would have added solidity to the team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on August 31, 2011, 11:46:21 PM
Arsenal players - in      
Mikel Arteta   Everton   MID
Per Mertesacker   Werder Bremen   DEF
André Santos   Fenerbahçe   LB
Yossi Benayoun   Chelsea   MID
Park Chu-young   Monaco   FWD
Gervinho   Lille   FWD
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain   Southampton   MID
Joel Campbell   Deportivo Saprissa   FWD
Hector Bellerin   Barcelona   FWD
Jon Toral   Barcelona   MID
Carl Jenkinson   Chalrton & Finland U19   DEF
      
      
Arsenal players - Out      
Gilles Sunu      
Jay Emmanuel-Thomas      
Joel Campbell      
Henri Lansbury      
Nicklas Bendtner      
Armand Traore      
Gaël Clichy      
Cesc Fabregas      
Samir Nasri      
      

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on September 01, 2011, 08:39:49 AM
Quote from: paco on August 30, 2011, 05:12:23 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on August 30, 2011, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 30, 2011, 01:23:09 PM
Arsenal are in advanced talks with Werder Bremen's German international defender Per Mertesacker.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14717213.stm

Decent centre-half, but had a horror show during his time at Real Madrid, if I remember correctly.

Mertesacker never played for Real Madrid, that was Christoph Metzelder.

Thanks paco for correcting my senility - in the past I would have been embarrassed by this.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ballinaman on September 01, 2011, 09:38:28 AM
What do the Arsenal lads here make of the signings??

More of the same type of player which they didn't need IMO. Seems like buying Arteta was a panic buy almost.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 01, 2011, 11:22:23 AM
Arteta - Fabregas lite?

The next game will be interesting as how much time have these signings given Wenger?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on September 01, 2011, 11:42:23 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 01, 2011, 09:38:28 AM
What do the Arsenal lads here make of the signings??

More of the same type of player which they didn't need IMO. Seems like buying Arteta was a panic buy almost.

Was thinking along the same lines, it seems like Wenger has been in a cocoon all summer and had no idea that he would have to replace both Nasri and Fabregas.  They will struggle to finish top 4 this year, they have not adequately replaced the aforementioned two players and even with them last year, they were not so good.  I honestly think that Wilshere was made to look far better than he is because of the players he had beside him in midfield last year, and I think he will be exposed more this year.  They needed a bit of steel in the team and yet they have not added it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 01, 2011, 01:57:19 PM
There's a chance that the German will be a hit. In a perfect world the back 4 Sagna - Merte - Verm - Gibbs or Santos in front of Chesney stay fit for the next 30 games or so.

Ahead of that you have Song. Then you've Wilshere, Ramsey, Walcott, Arshavin, Van Persie, Benayoun, Arteta, Gervinho and the Korean to play about with. In this perfect world where the key players (9 at least) have a season-long run of games Arsenal are capable of anything (that is, getting back into the title race and competing well in Europe). That might happen.

The problem is that there's more of a chance it won't happen and if the back 4 are affected, Arsenal are banjaxed no matter how good their attack/midfield is. One more good central defender or a defensive midfielder would have been a successful transfer window.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 01, 2011, 02:24:00 PM
The thing about Wenger/ Arsenal is that you look at some of the 'ins' and you think who the hell are they? However 75% of the time they turn into decent signings. Wenger has a habit of pulling something from the hat.

However I think that United, City, Liverpool and Chelsea will be ahead of them come mid May. IMHO.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 01, 2011, 08:30:41 PM
(http://www.talksport.co.uk/sites/default/files/imagecache/ts_magazine_big_picture/ARSENAL%20STARTING%20LINEUP.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 01, 2011, 08:41:10 PM
One thing I like about the Arteta signing is that he isnt afraid to have a pop. Hopefully that isnt beaten out of him in search of the wonderful passing goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: spiritof91and94 on September 02, 2011, 10:38:37 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 01, 2011, 08:30:41 PM
(http://www.talksport.co.uk/sites/default/files/imagecache/ts_magazine_big_picture/ARSENAL%20STARTING%20LINEUP.jpg)

no frimpong?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on September 02, 2011, 11:09:31 AM
Twitter: To put it in perspective, tha'ts Gervinho, Park, Santos, Mertesacker, Arteta, & Yossi for about the price of Andy Carroll
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 04, 2011, 07:59:42 AM
Jack Wilshere out for three months (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Arsenal-midfielder-Jack-Wilshere-ruled-out-for-three-months-with-ankle-injury-article794849.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 08, 2011, 10:53:42 PM
Arsenal have finally earned their first win of the season, but it's not an on-pitch victory: the club has won a court case in Spain forcing the owner of a hat shop to change the name of her premises.

The Gunners have won their case against Seville resident Alicia Simon, who has now been told by the Spanish Patent and Trademark Office to change the name of her hat shop 'Arsenale'.

Simon registered the name of her shop before she even opened it in 2007 despite protestations from the club, but Arsenal's lawyers have been petitioning the Spanish authorities ever since, trying to convince them that she has infringed their trademark.

The stunned shopkeeper, who admits to having no knowledge of football, pointed out that her shop does not even share the same spelling or pronunciation as the English football club, and that it is a word which carries "more connotations of culture than sport".

But despite the apparent ridiculousness of their case, Arsenal have now successfully persuaded the Spanish authorities that there was a "risk of confusion" between the monolithic English football club and the tiny hat shop.

Simon named her shop after the Italian word 'arsenale', which was the name given to the shipbuilders' yards in medieval Pisa and Venice. Her premises are in Seville's Arenal de Sevilla district, where Seville's ancient shipyards were located - hence her choice of the name.

Her shop concentrates on selling her self-designed hats, but she also sells shoes - bringing her under the umbrella of "clothes, hats and shoes" as seen by the patent and trademark office, and thus causing the infringement.

Simon has no intention of backing down, however: despite admitting that she feels in a 'David v Goliath' situation, she will not change the name of her shop and has already appealed the decision - thanks to a pair of friends who are lawyers - to a Madrid tribunal which will have the final say.

"I will fight this to the end," she insists.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: The Worker on September 08, 2011, 10:54:49 PM
Will benayoun start this weekend?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 08, 2011, 11:23:33 PM
Quote from: The Worker on September 08, 2011, 10:54:49 PM
Will benayoun start this weekend?

If fit I'd expect so, will know tomorrow..

Arsenal just need a win..

Still excited by this guy....

Wonder Save (http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/wojciech-szczesnys-sensational-save-polandgermany-15374066/)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 10, 2011, 02:08:13 PM
Szczesny,
Sagna, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Gibbs,
Frimpong, Arteta, Ramsey,
Walcott, Arshavin, Van Persie
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on September 10, 2011, 02:10:40 PM
Any decent links to the game?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 10, 2011, 03:29:41 PM
Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on September 10, 2011, 02:10:40 PM
Any decent links to the game?

http://asialivestream.com/freefootball.php?channel=england6012 (http://asialivestream.com/freefootball.php?channel=england6012)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 10, 2011, 03:42:40 PM
Jaysus some mistake from the Swansea keeper, maybe the Gooners luck is changing...1-0..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 10, 2011, 04:59:08 PM
A win is a win is a win....and a clean sheet

3 new signings blooded, the Spaniard and the German did well..

Just need to go on an unbeaten run to build confidence and see where they are in November..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 11, 2011, 02:11:58 AM
feck me, an one nil against Swansea is not good enough. could be a long season. 

Borussia Dortmund on Tuesday night could be fun
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Forever Green on September 11, 2011, 02:18:00 AM
Dortmund away or home? Either way, I can see Mario Gotze ripping Arsenal a new arsehole
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 11, 2011, 12:03:54 PM
Quote from: gerry on September 11, 2011, 02:11:58 AM
feck me, an one nil against Swansea is not good enough. could be a long season. 

Borussia Dortmund on Tuesday night could be fun

Last time I checked you get the same 3 points for 1-0 as 5-0. They were hammered 8-2, a win in their next game is all that mattered after that.

Have a read of Arseblog (http://arseblog.com/), just a common sense blog about Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 13, 2011, 08:13:38 PM
That Arsenal defence are some accident waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 13, 2011, 08:30:31 PM
good old rvp
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 13, 2011, 08:36:58 PM
He has some record this calendar year.

Strange game. Dortmund are a tidy side - Arsenal have no discernible pattern as you'd expect with the likes of Merte, Benny, Arteta and Gervinho barely having played together.

Defensively Arsenal have no strategy at all - all for one. As Gerry says, thank the Lord for RVP!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 13, 2011, 08:44:34 PM
we need him to sign a new contract or we will have another cesc next summer
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 13, 2011, 09:01:30 PM
Walcott really is a crap player at this level. He has brilliant pace which gets him into goalscoring positions or offers him great attacking options. However, 98.4% of the time he wastes it. You just hope that the 1.6% success rate occurs in a big game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 13, 2011, 09:11:24 PM
song is on song tonght
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 13, 2011, 09:16:40 PM
Theo's a dick. Get him off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 13, 2011, 09:17:38 PM
Feck we are casual at the back with our passing with only 20 minutes to go
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 13, 2011, 09:19:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 13, 2011, 09:16:40 PM
Theo's a dick. Get him off.

pat heard ya
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on September 13, 2011, 09:31:58 PM
Super strike
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 13, 2011, 09:32:08 PM
feck, some strike
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerrykeegan on September 13, 2011, 09:32:22 PM
What a goal, was it his first touch
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: laoislad on September 13, 2011, 09:33:10 PM
Quote from: gerry on September 13, 2011, 09:32:08 PM
feck, some strike
Excellent.
What a stadium aswell.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 13, 2011, 09:34:48 PM
Brilliant goal and they deserve it too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 13, 2011, 09:36:46 PM
That's a fine result for Arsenal. Probably the hardest fixture in the group.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 13, 2011, 09:42:07 PM
given the start we had, a point tonight was a good result but we nearly had three.  Szczeny being a big improvement from last year
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 13, 2011, 09:47:54 PM
Quote from: gerry on September 13, 2011, 09:42:07 PM
given the start we had, a point tonight was a good result but we nearly had three.  Szczeny being a big improvement from last year

Agree. The timing was slightly disappointing but overall a draw was fair. Baby steps....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 13, 2011, 09:56:12 PM
making wenger wait until 15 minutes after the game was over before he could go into the dressing room is taking the piss
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 13, 2011, 10:06:55 PM
Quote from: gerry on September 13, 2011, 09:56:12 PM
making wenger wait until 15 minutes after the game was over before he could go into the dressing room is taking the piss

It's unbelievable. Platini v Wenger in a ring will sort it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 13, 2011, 10:10:06 PM
feck, some strike  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfYxDYd6t0Q&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 13, 2011, 11:17:04 PM
Just watched the highlights, good result but very close to 3, some goal in fairness. Baby steps is right unbeaten in 2....

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 14, 2011, 06:57:56 AM
What's the verdict on Gervinho so far?

Doesn't seem he will be a prolific goalscorer but shows some nice touches. Could go either way......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on September 14, 2011, 10:16:50 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 14, 2011, 06:57:56 AM
What's the verdict on Gervinho so far?

Doesn't seem he will be a prolific goalscorer but shows some nice touches. Could go either way......

Showing glimpses of his ability from France but just like Walcott he sticks the head down, sprints and often runs into defenders.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 14, 2011, 11:15:13 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 14, 2011, 06:57:56 AM
What's the verdict on Gervinho so far?

Doesn't seem he will be a prolific goalscorer but shows some nice touches. Could go either way......

He was bought as Nasri's replacement, Arsenal actually do have some forward planning and is having a better start to his Gooners career than Nasri, odes well..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on September 14, 2011, 11:56:51 AM
The German stadiums seem unrivalled for atmosphere on the CL nights, the fans were getting warmed up to Van Halen's 'Jump' and a rendition of 'You'll never walk alone' beforehand and the place was rocking.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 14, 2011, 07:57:10 PM
By and large German football could be used as the model way forward. Financially well run. Little crowd trouble. Decent attendances. Low prices. Good football and you can have a beer or two.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 17, 2011, 12:32:02 PM
    3 Szczesny
    03 Sagna
    04 Mertesacker
    06 Koscielny
    11 Santos
    08 Arteta
    16 Ramsey
    17 Song
    23 Arshavin
    10 Van Persie
    27 Gervinho

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 17, 2011, 01:12:19 PM
all over blackburn then we let the easiest goal ever in. feck
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gawa316 on September 17, 2011, 01:31:23 PM
2-1 now to the arse, arteta with the 2nd. Just brought him into my fantasy football team...happy days!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 17, 2011, 01:35:18 PM
all the new boys scoring

Blackburn    1 -   2 Arsenal    HT

Yakubu 25      Gervinho 10
                      Arteta 34
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 17, 2011, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: gerry on September 17, 2011, 01:12:19 PM
all over blackburn then we let the easiest goal ever in. feck

again
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: EC Unique on September 17, 2011, 01:56:59 PM
Oops!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 17, 2011, 02:03:15 PM
this zone marketing working a storm,  going to be a long season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 17, 2011, 02:12:25 PM
no motd again tonght
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 17, 2011, 02:30:17 PM
Chamakh first goal  since last November says it all
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 17, 2011, 02:33:52 PM
Arsenal have had a long history of being meagre at the back. Worst Arsenal defence in 20 years?

Sack Wenger  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Bannaman on September 17, 2011, 02:42:24 PM
Yak attack!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 17, 2011, 02:44:36 PM
thank feck for up for the match tonight.  come on kerry
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 17, 2011, 02:44:36 PM
Words escape me - worst defense in 20 years? - George Graham was coach 20 years ago - worst defence that I can ever remember simply shocking organisation. It's absolutely nothing to with ability and everything to do with coaching. Arsenal looking at relegation if they maintain this and at the moment you can't see anything changing in the short term. FFS Backburn had 3 shots on target and scored 4 goals... :'(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 17, 2011, 06:42:37 PM
5 goals scored on their travels in the north. Great form altogether.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: whitegoodman on September 17, 2011, 06:57:45 PM
As a neutral that was absolutely pathetic today and I have absolutely no sympathy for wenger.

He could have went at the start of June and got cahill and dann for around 15 mill combined but instead decided to haggle all summer as if it was his own communion money and had to panic buy in the last wk.

The way they r playing 6th looks like the best they r going to get. Question, how many world class players have arsenal left, 2?? Rvp/wilkshire
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 17, 2011, 08:03:19 PM
I wonder is cesc missing us tonight. There 5 up at half time
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 17, 2011, 09:02:25 PM
If Arsenal genuinely have proper money to spend on players then I'm afraid Wenger needs sacked. To have thought about entering the CL and the EPL season with only one decent FB and one decent -though injury prone -CH was scandalous. Fan pressure got to him but again he couldn't pRt with decent money.  Per was signed as a panic buy. It was clear Arsenal had already scouted him years ago and decided he wasnt good enough. Now he's first choice. Give me a break.

The fact that arsenal were in pole position to buy Phil Jones before Man U and let him drift away for the want of a few extra quid is unreal. Same for Mata.

Instead they end up with the c list  Fabregas and a bunch of others who may or may not make the grade in the long run but certainly look like damn all so far.

Expect to see RVP out the door in August 2012.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 17, 2011, 09:22:42 PM
Quote from: gerry on September 17, 2011, 08:03:19 PM
I wonder is cesc missing us tonight. There 5 up at half time


Barcelona beat Osasuna 8-0 and had more than 80% possession.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 17, 2011, 09:24:19 PM
Quote from: gerry on September 17, 2011, 09:22:42 PM
Quote from: gerry on September 17, 2011, 08:03:19 PM
I wonder is cesc missing us tonight. There 5 up at half time


Barcelona beat Osasuna 8-0 and had more than 80% possession.

Where's the craic in that?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 17, 2011, 10:12:52 PM
Exactly Dinny. It's just a new phase. I've experienced the Don Howe era of being a Villa/Everton. Then the George Graham ultra defensive but successful phase. After that was the Houston/Rioch stint which was a sort of limbo. Even Arsene's era has been up and down. 99/00 - 00/01 was trying at times.

We're now entering a period of mediocrity. It might last a month or maybe 2 years. Let's ride the wave baby.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gawa316 on September 17, 2011, 10:18:03 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 17, 2011, 09:24:19 PM
Quote from: gerry on September 17, 2011, 09:22:42 PM
Quote from: gerry on September 17, 2011, 08:03:19 PM
I wonder is cesc missing us tonight. There 5 up at half time


Barcelona beat Osasuna 8-0 and had more than 80% possession.

Where's the craic in that?

Would it have been good craic if Osasuna scored twice?!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 17, 2011, 10:20:13 PM
Although I'd disagree with you Dinny about ability. There's a lot of shite floating about in that defence.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Minder on September 17, 2011, 10:26:06 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 17, 2011, 10:20:13 PM
Although I'd disagree with you Dinny about ability. There's a lot of shite floating about in that defence.

I watched  first half hour and though Arsenal were gonna beat them out the gate.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on September 17, 2011, 10:27:39 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 17, 2011, 10:18:03 PM
Would it have been good craic if Osasuna scored twice?!

Can he play CB?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Orangemac on September 17, 2011, 10:58:27 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 17, 2011, 09:02:25 PM
The fact that arsenal were in pole position to buy Phil Jones before Man U and let him drift away for the want of a few extra quid is unreal. Same for Mata.

Instead they end up with the c list  Fabregas and a bunch of others who may or may not make the grade in the long run but certainly look like damn all so far.

Expect to see RVP out the door in August 2012.
Arsenal and United were both interested in Jones, Smalling and Chamberlain. Guess which one Arsenal wanted the most?

Wenger should have brought in Given, Scott Parker and Haangeland/Jagielka with the money he had. There is no leadership/backbone in this team. When you look back at Wengers 15 years at Arsenal he has signed very few good defenders, he inherited the backbone of Seaman, Dixon, Keown, Adams and Ashley Cole came through the ranks.

As for Gervinho was he signed as Wenger neeed a headless chicken on the left to balance the headless chicken that is Walcott on the right?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 18, 2011, 02:38:20 PM
Arsenal Record Since Carling Cup Loss

P16 W3 D7 L6 F21 A30 GD -9 Pts 16

7.72% — Conversion rate (goals/shots) in those 16 games
16.67% — Defensive conversion rate (goals allowed/opposition shot on goal) in those 16 games
12.77% – Manchester United conversion rate 2010-2011
8.03% — Manchester United defensive conversion rate 2010-2011

I think I will take my head out of the sand as there is now obviously, even to the most myopic of Arsenal fans, something fundamentally wrong at Arsenal football club there is a malaise there that extends beyond just the defensive short-comings. Alas as much as I want Wenger to be the man to get Arsenal out of the mess they are in I just don't believe he can do it on his own. Decisions need to be made, not rash decisions but measured decisions to demonstrate to the Arsenal fans that the club aren't going mad because the definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results which exactly what Arsenal have done over the last 4/5 years.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 18, 2011, 08:26:30 PM
Are you ok Dinny?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on September 18, 2011, 08:37:50 PM
Well the Gaa season over till next year so I can return to Arsenal till at least the end of the League.

So how are we doing so far? Comfortable top 4 or realistic challengers this year?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Orangemac on September 18, 2011, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 18, 2011, 08:37:50 PM
Well the Gaa season over till next year so I can return to Arsenal till at least the end of the League.

So how are we doing so far? Comfortable top 4 or realistic challengers this year?
Lets just say you may be looking at page 2 on Ceefax for a while.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 18, 2011, 11:02:02 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 18, 2011, 08:37:50 PM
Well the Gaa season over till next year so I can return to Arsenal till at least the end of the League.

So how are we doing so far? Comfortable top 4 or realistic challengers this year?

Going great guns. Scored 2 goals up at Old Trafford and even missed a penalty. Scored 5 goals up in Blackburn. Arsene has unearthed another Walcott in Gervinho and Wilshere/Vermaelan have been getting a great rest.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on September 18, 2011, 11:24:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 18, 2011, 11:02:02 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 18, 2011, 08:37:50 PM
Well the Gaa season over till next year so I can return to Arsenal till at least the end of the League.

So how are we doing so far? Comfortable top 4 or realistic challengers this year?

Going great guns. Scored 2 goals up at Old Trafford and even missed a penalty. Scored 5 goals up in Blackburn. Arsene has unearthed another Walcott in Gervinho and Wilshere/Vermaelan have been getting a great rest.

Cool.

How are Samir and Cesc playing?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 18, 2011, 11:31:47 PM
Cesc has been in rampant form and won 3 trophies for his efforts and Samir has been assisting like no tomorrow. Bendtner getting some gametime and Denilson has developed a nasty edge. Eboue missing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on September 18, 2011, 11:36:55 PM
Has O'Neill,Dinny Breen swapped roles as Arsenal's negative,positive supporters?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 19, 2011, 12:06:50 AM
Dinny has entered realm 2 - realism.
I have reached phase 3 - delirium.
Gerry and Puckoon have been at sector 4 since 2008.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 19, 2011, 08:37:13 AM
Form is temporary, class is permanent. Unless, of course, you have to sell your class. Then it belongs to somebody else.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 19, 2011, 09:08:16 AM
That delirium stage sounds good, when do I get there?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 19, 2011, 04:24:59 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 19, 2011, 09:08:16 AM
That delirium stage sounds good, when do I get there?

Oh, you'll know when it happens.

You'll have heartily as they contrive to invent a novel way to concede a goal. Real belly laughs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: tommysmith on September 20, 2011, 09:23:16 AM
(http://c0016417.cdn2.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/353va4.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 20, 2011, 08:02:36 PM
...and Shrewsbury have scored.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 20, 2011, 08:03:07 PM
Djourou ball-watching they say. Eff me pink like.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 20, 2011, 08:15:59 PM
Sweet god.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 20, 2011, 08:21:06 PM
Wenger is going to be found in the Thames with rocks in his pockets at this rate.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 20, 2011, 08:21:36 PM
Gibbs. 1-1.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 20, 2011, 08:46:38 PM
Should've stuck out the first team. They're sitting at home wallowing in their own shite.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 20, 2011, 09:02:56 PM
radio (http://yanying.yolasite.com/chan7.php) link

now 2  1 to the gunners
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 20, 2011, 09:06:54 PM
Well done Gooners (so far). Thought you'd found your level.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 20, 2011, 09:23:38 PM
3-1. On course for the quadruple.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 20, 2011, 09:26:07 PM
heard that before
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 20, 2011, 09:42:07 PM
"Can we play you every week?"

Seriously, is it possible?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 20, 2011, 10:31:42 PM
Just hope to avoid Spurs in next round.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 20, 2011, 10:42:17 PM
well it not be spurs anyway
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 20, 2011, 10:44:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 20, 2011, 10:31:42 PM
Just hope to avoid Spurs in next round.

Think the delirium might be kicking in but were they not beaten by Stoke.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 20, 2011, 10:48:25 PM
Djourou was captain! Is Wenger trying to get fired?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 24, 2011, 12:11:00 AM
here we go again     Jack Wilshere to undergo ankle surgery  (http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/jack-wilshere-to-undergo-ankle-surgery)

hopefully when i am back on here again we might have beat bolton, but we  probably have throw away a 2 1 lead to loose  3 2
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 24, 2011, 01:49:02 PM
Arsene's a polar bear.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 24, 2011, 02:57:08 PM
Strame - http://myp2p.cm/live.php?v=www.megavip.tv%2Fch1.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 24, 2011, 03:06:51 PM
1 min 20 secs. First high ball into Arsenal box. 5 Gunners, 2 Bolts. First Wanderer wins header, second Wanderer stabs knockdown at goal. Great save but ffs. Star Donaghy would make hay.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 24, 2011, 03:49:36 PM
0-0 at HT. Disappointingly uninspiring. Heavy touch from Gervinho when straight through on 5 minutes sums up the dearth of quality.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 24, 2011, 04:08:24 PM
That one bit of quality they have, RVP, just let rip with his chocolate foot. 1-0.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 24, 2011, 04:32:35 PM
2-0. Van Persie's 100th.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 24, 2011, 04:37:04 PM
Walcott's getting worse every year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 24, 2011, 09:30:23 PM
looking forward to motd as want to see how we played rather than see the goals on twitter.  the papers today on about the players who have one year left on their contract.  i will not lose any sleep if theo and andrey leave us because every game i think maybe this one, then i am proved right
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 24, 2011, 09:34:29 PM
What gets me about Theo is the great British media cover up. The fcukers won't call it as it is. Today he was an arse. He was given acres of room to use his pace. He fooked up 99% of his chances to ether shoot or assist. He finally got one on target for RVP's second goal. A decent winger would see Arsenal nab 15 more goals a season. He's the greatest fraud ever.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 24, 2011, 09:38:36 PM
aye but its your fault as i want to play through the middle
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 24, 2011, 09:43:21 PM
Did you see the two chances he had at the end? Striker my hole.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 24, 2011, 09:46:40 PM
just in from work, so i have seen nothing yet.  btw teachers get handy. lol
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 24, 2011, 09:49:52 PM
Quote from: gerry on September 24, 2011, 09:46:40 PM
just in from work, so i have seen nothing yet.  btw teachers get handy. lol

Don't be surprised if they don't show them. It's all part of the great cover-up. They'll show his assist and then his injury.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 24, 2011, 09:52:20 PM
Did Arsenal win or am I in the delirium stage?

Firmly in the Walcott is sh*t camp.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 24, 2011, 09:58:47 PM
Yea they won. A poor first half and an especially torried opening 3 minutes. They failed to deal with any high ball played in.

RVP took it by the knackers in the second half and won the game on his own. Mertesecker started to look assured but you could see he didn't trust his defensive partners. The sooner Vermaelan's back the better. Theo went off before he was hauled off. Gervinho's hard to work out. Full of beans and can beat his man but often makes the wrong choice. He was put clean through after 6 minutes but completely fluffed his first touch. He might be a foreign Walcott. Ramsey was so-so but slightly more composed than in previous weeks. Song covered some ground and kept an eye on his defence.

Really seeing what Fabregas brought to Arsenal. He made others look a lot better than what they are.

Chesney was secure.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 24, 2011, 10:06:19 PM
QuoteFirmly in the Walcott is sh*t camp.

Richard Keys: Walcott's a stupid little boy in daft pink boots  (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/2923918/Sky-Sports-Richard-Keys-makes-gaffe-with-mic-still-switched-on.html)


its a pity keys left sky
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 24, 2011, 10:19:47 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 24, 2011, 09:58:47 PM
Yea they won. A poor first half and an especially torried opening 3 minutes. They failed to deal with any high ball played in.

RVP took it by the knackers in the second half and won the game on his own. Mertesecker started to look assured but you could see he didn't trust his defensive partners. The sooner Vermaelan's back the better. Theo went off before he was hauled off. Gervinho's hard to work out. Full of beans and can beat his man but often makes the wrong choice. He was put clean through after 6 minutes but completely fluffed his first touch. He might be a foreign Walcott. Ramsey was so-so but slightly more composed than in previous weeks. Song covered some ground and kept an eye on his defence.

Really seeing what Fabregas brought to Arsenal. He made others look a lot better than what they are.

Chesney was secure.

So money on the Spuds next week so..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 25, 2011, 12:10:58 AM
Thierry Henry           
Ian Wright             
Cliff Bastin           
John Radford           
Ted Drake               
Jimmy Brain             
Doug Lishman           
Joe Hulme               
David Jack             
Dennis Bergkamp         
Reg Lewis             
Alan Smith             
Jack Lambert           
Frank Stapleton         
David Herd             
Joe Baker   
Robin Van Persie
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Minder on September 25, 2011, 12:21:26 AM
Thierry Henry           
Ian Wright             
Cliff Bastin           
John Radford           
Ted Drake               
Jimmy Brain             
Doug Lishman           
Joe Hulme               
David Jack             
Dennis Bergkamp         
Reg Lewis
The Fox In The Box             
Alan Smith             
Jack Lambert           
Frank Stapleton         
David Herd             
Joe Baker   
Robin Van Persie

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 25, 2011, 07:14:34 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 24, 2011, 01:49:02 PM
Arsene's a polar bear.

Why Arsene Wenger IS like a polar bear: they're both endangered species


(http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/michael-calvin/Michael-Calvin-column-Why-Arsene-Wenger-IS-like-a-polar-bear-they-re-both-endangered-species-article803879.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 25, 2011, 08:25:12 AM
just seen motd and except for theo awful shot at the goalie you would think he had a great game.  how many chance did rvp miss.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 25, 2011, 10:32:17 AM
I know. It's quite remarkable. Did they even mention his injury?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 25, 2011, 01:46:20 PM
The Sunday Times gave Walcott 8/10 I kid you not...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 25, 2011, 02:02:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 25, 2011, 10:32:17 AM
I know. It's quite remarkable. Did they even mention his injury?

no injury mention
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 25, 2011, 03:57:40 PM
Glad some hoor saw what I did - http://www.arsenalinsider.com/walcott-still-lacking-a-footballing-brain/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 25, 2011, 11:54:04 PM
now 11 months of this

(http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr92/gerrylala/407559613.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 27, 2011, 10:02:14 PM
any chance ONeill  that you can ring your colleagues in omagh's drumragh colleage and get them to change my son's parent teacher meeting to another night when the gooners are not playing
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 27, 2011, 10:13:17 PM
Bit early for that craic. Sure how could they know his name so soon?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 28, 2011, 05:29:44 PM
team looks like.  : Szczesny; Sagna, Mertesacker, Song, Gibbs; Frimpong, Arteta; Ox-Ch, Ramsey, Arshavin; Rvp
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 28, 2011, 06:32:17 PM
Great news, school meeting is next tuesday night
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 28, 2011, 06:47:58 PM
Rvp on the bench. SZCZ - Sanga - Metesacker - Song - Santos - Frimpong - Arteta - Rosicky - Arshavin - Chamakh - Oxlade-Chamberlain
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 28, 2011, 08:07:15 PM
new boys doing well

Arsenal    2-0    Olympiakos    L

    Oxlade-Chamberlain 8
    Santos 20

   
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on September 28, 2011, 08:12:57 PM
Need another 6 to make it safe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 28, 2011, 08:13:54 PM
what a f**k up that was. school boy stuff
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 28, 2011, 08:30:58 PM
Pat needs to tell them to get dug in at half time, to many players prepared to let someone else doing the work. The captains armband seems to be just doing the rounds at the moment. Feck me the cat will wear it next.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 28, 2011, 09:12:25 PM
any chance a team will come  for arshavin in jan
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: beer baron on September 28, 2011, 09:20:24 PM
Any chance of you scoring another to get my treble up  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on September 28, 2011, 09:34:44 PM
no lost matches under our boy pat. 

wenger out pat in   :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 28, 2011, 09:46:14 PM
Sorry sentiment but would definitely take a draw at Spurs on Sunday. That'll be a real result.

3 wins but Arsenal are a pale shadow of the team they almost were a year ago. Maybe one big win, like this Sunday, will release the shackles but Arsenal are very stiff at the minute.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 28, 2011, 09:54:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 28, 2011, 09:46:14 PM
Sorry sentiment but would definitely take a draw clean sheet at Spurs on Sunday. That'll be a real result.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 28, 2011, 09:56:38 PM
Clean sheet? No way in hell. I'll run naked from Glenavy to Canada.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2011, 11:20:31 PM
The Ox in the box.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 30, 2011, 09:20:15 PM
Any other Gooners dunging the togs about Sunday? I can see 5-1.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ildanach on September 30, 2011, 09:43:17 PM
1 v 2 with rvp getting both!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 30, 2011, 09:47:41 PM
I just cannot see that Arsenal defence coping atall. Who's gonna partner the German? If Spurs score early (prob after 48 seconds) it could be the nadir.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 30, 2011, 10:03:39 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 30, 2011, 09:20:15 PM
Any other Gooners dunging the togs about Sunday? I can see 5-1.

Won't get to see it, never so happy to be missing an Arsenal game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Minder on September 30, 2011, 10:05:12 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 30, 2011, 09:47:41 PM
I just cannot see that Arsenal defence coping atall. Who's gonna partner the German? If Spurs score early (prob after 48 seconds) it could be the nadir.

Who does he play for?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Orangemac on September 30, 2011, 11:13:51 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 30, 2011, 10:05:12 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 30, 2011, 09:47:41 PM
I just cannot see that Arsenal defence coping atall. Who's gonna partner the German? If Spurs score early (prob after 48 seconds) it could be the nadir.

Who does he play for?
He is a cousin of Nayim.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on September 30, 2011, 11:58:25 PM
Arsenal won't be a million miles away this year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 01, 2011, 12:09:34 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on September 30, 2011, 11:58:25 PM
Arsenal won't be a million miles away this year.

950'000?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Forever Green on October 01, 2011, 12:43:02 AM
4-0 to Arsenal or 7-0 to Spurs
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 02, 2011, 08:57:58 AM
can't see a win today but i hope arsenal can keep it close.  i see we have went back to man marking rather than zone marking for todays game. 

finally think wenger has lost the plot given arshaven a £6million pay rise. wtf
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Orangemac on October 02, 2011, 10:19:17 AM
Quote from: gerry on October 02, 2011, 08:57:58 AM
can't see a win today but i hope arsenal can keep it close.  i see we have went back to man marking rather than zone marking for todays game. 

finally think wenger has lost the plot given arshaven a £6million pay rise. wtf
Extremely talented player, extremely bad attitude. Should be shipped out asap.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 02, 2011, 10:35:42 AM
Arsenal's away record is dung. Since 1st Jan 2011, they've won only 3 times away in the league and those were to the three relegated teams last year. They haven't won since April away from the Emirates in the league.

I just cannot see how an injury-hit and weakened Arsenal 11/12 can compete with this Spuds squad. Maybe a few lads will play out of their skins but every chance needs to be taken as there's no chance Arsenal will keep a clean sheet. A 4-4 would be great but think 3-0 or 3-1 Spuds.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on October 02, 2011, 10:44:28 AM
I think I'll take another break from here.

See you after the WC.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 02, 2011, 12:08:04 PM
Apparently Walcott is completely unmarkable in Fifa12. The conspiracy deepens.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 02, 2011, 03:46:48 PM
    13 Szczesny
    03 Sagna
    04 Mertesacker
    28 Gibbs
    08 Arteta
    14 Walcott
    16 Ramsey
    17 Song
    39 Coquelin
    10 Van Persie
    27 Gervinho
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 02, 2011, 04:22:37 PM
How can pros not be able to pass the ball to their team mates
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: tyroneman on October 02, 2011, 04:40:15 PM
Gervinho is a fcukin clown. How much did AW pay for him???

Mertesacker too. Woeful.

Santos can't even get in ahead of Gibbs who can't defend in any level of football.

Wenger has thrown good money away this summer and come nowhere near addressing the problems in that team.

The only person who looks useful is the Ox and he was hardly what was essential.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 02, 2011, 04:45:38 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on October 02, 2011, 04:40:15 PM
Gervinho is a fcukin clown. How much did AW pay for him???

10 mill
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: tyroneman on October 02, 2011, 04:48:50 PM
10mill for a forward who can't direct a shot on target from 10 yards......

And Arteta......a d list Fabregas. Rubbish in Scotland. Can't get near the Spanish side and had 1 decent season on merseyside where he had little competition in the side for a place.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 02, 2011, 05:18:45 PM
Maybe, just maybe
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: tyroneman on October 02, 2011, 05:41:13 PM
Not sure how they will persuade RvP to stay after this shambles.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 02, 2011, 06:10:44 PM
Mertesacker centre forward? FFS.

Toothless. Lacking any passion too. Shower of fruity hoors. Van Persie needs to leave that club and play with good players.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: thewobbler on October 02, 2011, 06:13:13 PM
Doesn't look like your going to have your Totteringham's Day this season Shane.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: tyroneman on October 02, 2011, 06:17:35 PM
Bar RvP not one of that Arsenal team today would get near the top 4.

Walcott is f**king awful.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on October 02, 2011, 06:27:46 PM
I'm undecided myself so was the first Spurs goal a hand ball? & was the winner a goalkeeping mistake?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 02, 2011, 11:46:26 PM
it gets no easier with sagna out for 3 months with a fractured fibula
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 02, 2011, 11:51:11 PM
It's meltdown all over the shop. This time last year Arsenal were looking good. In the title race, easing through the CL, Fabregas/Nasri/RVP firing on all cylinders...the Arsene project was heading towards some form of silvery vindication.

If Wenger can somehow managed to challenge for 4th (City, Utd and Chelsea are too strong) come March it'll be his greatest achievement.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on October 03, 2011, 12:31:29 PM
It's going all Rafa-shaped.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ballinaman on October 03, 2011, 12:41:32 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on October 02, 2011, 06:17:35 PM
Bar RvP not one of that Arsenal team today would get near the top 4.

Walcott is f**king awful.
He's still young though, how old is he now? 17?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: EC Unique on October 03, 2011, 12:43:43 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 02, 2011, 11:51:11 PM
It's meltdown all over the shop. This time last year Arsenal were looking good. In the title race, easing through the CL, Fabregas/Nasri/RVP firing on all cylinders...the Arsene project was heading towards some form of silvery vindication.

If Wenger can somehow managed to challenge for 4th (City, Utd and Chelsea are too strong) come March it'll be his greatest achievement.

With the form spurs and Liverpool are showing I really doubt Arsenal will get a sniff of 4th. Massive money needs spent and the type of players that are needed do not become available in January windows. Arsenal are this years Liverpool.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 03, 2011, 01:23:09 PM
Any chance we can just restrict this thread to Gooners only as all other comments just seem to come straight from the tabloids and equally laughable.

Any Arsenal watcher knows Arsenal's problems aren't related to money. Money can't buy you attitude and commitment.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Boycey on October 03, 2011, 01:29:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 03, 2011, 01:23:09 PM
Any chance we can just restrict this thread to Gooners only as all other comments just seem to come straight from the tabloids and equally laughable.

Any Arsenal watcher knows Arsenal's problems aren't related to money. Money can't buy you attitude and commitment.

Maybe you should just lock the thread..... again.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 03, 2011, 01:35:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 03, 2011, 01:23:09 PM
Any chance we can just restrict this thread to Gooners only as all other comments just seem to come straight from the tabloids and equally laughable.

Any Arsenal watcher knows Arsenal's problems aren't related to money. Money can't buy you attitude and commitment.

Nah Dinny, you have to suffer the fools the way we have to suffer them over on the Liverpool thread.  I thin to k the big issue that Arsenal have is that Wenger bought late and consequently cheaply to replace the 2 players who everyone knew were leaving.  If he had said well f**k it they are gone now so lets spend big and get Mata and AN Other as opposed to the funny head shaped and Cesc very lite then there would have been a better start.   You are right though that the attitude is not great but surely it is the managers job to address that?  If he can't and if his purchases are not working then surely he has to accept responsibility.  I am not saying he should be sacked but the same arguments that were made to get rid of Rafa for years and Hodgson last year can now be made against Wenger. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Boycey on October 03, 2011, 01:55:09 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 03, 2011, 01:35:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 03, 2011, 01:23:09 PM
Any chance we can just restrict this thread to Gooners only as all other comments just seem to come straight from the tabloids and equally laughable.

Any Arsenal watcher knows Arsenal's problems aren't related to money. Money can't buy you attitude and commitment.

Nah Dinny, you have to suffer the fools the way we have to suffer them over on the Liverpool thread.  I thin to k the big issue that Arsenal have is that Wenger bought late and consequently cheaply to replace the 2 players who everyone knew were leaving.  If he had said well f**k it they are gone now so lets spend big and get Mata and AN Other as opposed to the funny head shaped and Cesc very lite then there would have been a better start.   You are right though that the attitude is not great but surely it is the managers job to address that?  If he can't and if his purchases are not working then surely he has to accept responsibility.  I am not saying he should be sacked but the same arguments that were made to get rid of Rafa for years and Hodgson last year can now be made against Wenger.

Arsenals problems go way deeper than a couple of poor buys at the tail end of the transfer window. The signs have been there for 18-24 months?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 03, 2011, 03:07:19 PM
Quote from: Boycey on October 03, 2011, 01:55:09 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 03, 2011, 01:35:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 03, 2011, 01:23:09 PM
Any chance we can just restrict this thread to Gooners only as all other comments just seem to come straight from the tabloids and equally laughable.

Any Arsenal watcher knows Arsenal's problems aren't related to money. Money can't buy you attitude and commitment.

Nah Dinny, you have to suffer the fools the way we have to suffer them over on the Liverpool thread.  I thin to k the big issue that Arsenal have is that Wenger bought late and consequently cheaply to replace the 2 players who everyone knew were leaving.  If he had said well f**k it they are gone now so lets spend big and get Mata and AN Other as opposed to the funny head shaped and Cesc very lite then there would have been a better start.   You are right though that the attitude is not great but surely it is the managers job to address that?  If he can't and if his purchases are not working then surely he has to accept responsibility.  I am not saying he should be sacked but the same arguments that were made to get rid of Rafa for years and Hodgson last year can now be made against Wenger.

Arsenals problems go way deeper than a couple of poor buys at the tail end of the transfer window. The signs have been there for 18-24 months?

Locking the thread only results in personal abuse from same said idiots so let them have their say and be shown for the tabloid monkeys they are.

Anyhow as Boycey points out the malaise has been there for a few years, you could say since they moved to the new stadium which has been a financial strain on Arsenal.

Arsenal's model over the last 5 years has been to bring in young talent on high wages and all are coached to play a certain way, this has been done at the expense of experience, players over 30 were only offered 1 year extensions. This lack of experience has been an issue in Arsenal's failure to win trophies, you look at the Arsenal team and there are no leaders. The Arsenal faithful though understood the financial constraints and bought into this new model but the believers are losing faith and what is sparking that loss of faith is that the players have lost faith. Fans respond to the actions on the field and too many times in the last 2 years these fans have seen poor work-rate, poor commitment and too many players hiding.  The sum of the parts is defintely less than what it should be and Arsenal are the polar opposite to Manchester United when it comes that metric, Manchester United are a team Arsenal are 11 individuals.

I only saw the last 10 minutes yesterday I saw no hunger, no drive no desire to get an equaliser, this was a derby against the Spuds, disgusting attitude.

Wenger is the architect, comparisons to Rafa and Hodgson in particular are flawed, Rafa tried to build something at Liverpool but even for a Madrid manager struggled with the Anfield politics, the way is Arsenal is run is entirely down to Wenger. This is his model and it's a model that has failed. The cross-roads that Arsenal are at is simple, do they allow Wenger time to rebuild or do they jettison him.

The Tabloid response is to get rid of him. That is not Arsenal way nor should it be. Wenger deserves the chance to build confidence in his team and give them back their faith. It's not going to be done over night and the players need to start to show the fans that they care about more than their bank balance and start showing some pride.

And on the transfers, Arsenal had to qualify for the UCL before they could determine a transfer budget hence the late deals and for the last time I will say this Gervinho was bought in advance to replace Nasri. The Fabregas saga was a gamble that failed.

Still apart from the top 3, Arsenal have nothing to fear, will be surprised if they make 4th now but wouldn't be shocked if they did.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Orangemac on October 04, 2011, 12:44:06 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 03, 2011, 01:23:09 PM
Any chance we can just restrict this thread to Gooners only as all other comments just seem to come straight from the tabloids and equally laughable.

Any Arsenal watcher knows Arsenal's problems aren't related to money. Money can't buy you attitude and commitment.
I know Arsenal fans will not value his opinion but thought Bendtner's comments today that he enjoys coming into training at Sunderland are interesting. He says that there is great banter and camaraderie there.

There doesn't seem to be enough strong characters on or off the pitch at Arsenal. Wenger should have brought in the likes of Shay Given and Scott Parker (who ran the show yesterday) in the summer for next to nothing instead of the likes of Gervinho and Chamberlain..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 16, 2011, 08:30:12 AM
League resumes. Gulp.

The Bender cannot play against Arsenal today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on October 16, 2011, 11:07:24 AM
Quote from: ONeill on October 16, 2011, 08:30:12 AM
League resumes. Gulp.

The Bender cannot play against Arsenal today.

No Gaa or RWC to hide behind. When does the fantasy golf start again?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 16, 2011, 11:31:29 AM
Are we still on the philosophical thread?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 16, 2011, 12:10:01 PM
Trawlers and sardines
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Gaffer on October 16, 2011, 12:41:10 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 16, 2011, 08:30:12 AM
League resumes. Gulp.

The Bender cannot play against Arsenal today.

He could never play against anyone if the truth be told.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gawa316 on October 16, 2011, 01:43:40 PM
Van Persie almost did a cantona :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 16, 2011, 01:45:08 PM
In what sense? A sublime chip? A stamp on a grounded player? A karate kick into the crowd? Or is he wearing an upturned collar?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 16, 2011, 02:07:01 PM
What a free kick from Larsson. And then what a save from Cze..Sceze....Ches.... The Arsenal keeper.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gawa316 on October 16, 2011, 02:17:22 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 16, 2011, 01:45:08 PM
In what sense? A sublime chip? A stamp on a grounded player? A karate kick into the crowd? Or is he wearing an upturned collar?

A. Sublime chip ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 16, 2011, 02:18:51 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on October 16, 2011, 02:17:22 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 16, 2011, 01:45:08 PM
In what sense? A sublime chip? A stamp on a grounded player? A karate kick into the crowd? Or is he wearing an upturned collar?

A. Sublime chip ;)

Ah, I aww. I only turned on the game when I saw your comment so I thought I'd missed something apart from the 29 second goal :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gawa316 on October 16, 2011, 02:34:54 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 16, 2011, 02:18:51 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on October 16, 2011, 02:17:22 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 16, 2011, 01:45:08 PM
In what sense? A sublime chip? A stamp on a grounded player? A karate kick into the crowd? Or is he wearing an upturned collar?

A. Sublime chip ;)

Ah, I aww. I only turned on the game when I saw your comment so I thought I'd missed something apart from the 29 second goal :)

Came back of the post, was a lovely attempt though
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 16, 2011, 02:37:51 PM
By the way, that was 'I see'. not 'I aww'. Touch typing and the fingers found the wrong keys :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: tyroneman on October 16, 2011, 02:49:30 PM
Jaysus - only just realised Walcott was on the pitch. 

Much like the Tyrone team in the post PtG era Arsenal seems to have no-one capable of taking a right footed free kick.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 04:24:17 PM
That was a thrilling relegation battle at the Emirates, Arsenal can breath a bit easier now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 19, 2011, 07:23:45 PM
What's to worry

Szczesny, Jenkinson, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Andre Santos, Song, Arteta, Rosicky, Walcott, Arshavin, Van Persie.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 19, 2011, 07:57:43 PM
There's more at a county final.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 19, 2011, 07:59:35 PM
Quote from: gerry on October 19, 2011, 07:23:45 PM
What's to worry

Szczesny, Jenkinson, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Andre Santos, Song, Arteta, Rosicky, Walcott, Arshavin, Van Persie.
Who?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 19, 2011, 08:19:38 PM
Jenkinson have a good game, pity arshavin not doing the same work load as him
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 19, 2011, 08:30:59 PM
Walcott and arshavin both on £60K per week and neither can cross a ball. Plus we gave arshavin a payrise a month a go
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 19, 2011, 08:38:37 PM
Santa lucky to be still on the pitch. He must think he's playing gaa
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on October 19, 2011, 08:55:32 PM
Quote from: gerry on October 19, 2011, 08:30:59 PM
Walcott and arshavin both on £60K per week and neither can cross a ball. Plus we gave arshavin a payrise a month a go

In fairness it is further up for them than most.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 19, 2011, 09:04:34 PM
When did Marseille change to that horrible orange kit? Their old white/blue colour scheme was nice.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 19, 2011, 09:06:35 PM
It lOoks like a top ur granny would have knitted you
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 19, 2011, 09:08:00 PM
And now there's an Arsenal Sub coming on with Offaly wristbands. Excellent. Why did Walcott just back pass to the Marseille keeper?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on October 19, 2011, 09:08:36 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 19, 2011, 09:08:00 PM
And now there's an Arsenal Sub coming on with Offaly wristbands. Excellent. Why did Walcott just back pass to the Marseille keeper?

Is it Darby by any chance?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 19, 2011, 09:10:06 PM
Nope, doesn't look like him. Might be one of the Rhode boys though alright.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 19, 2011, 09:16:39 PM
What was Arshavin at there, back heeling the ball out over the sideline with a big donkey kick like a stubborn ass. He looks to have little interest tonight. If he did that for Newport Town he'd get a kick in the arse himself.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 19, 2011, 09:36:22 PM
van Persie is a fine player.

Looks like the Offaly buck gets an assist with Ramsey's goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 19, 2011, 09:39:41 PM
Great result but a poor game for the neutrals
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 19, 2011, 10:17:42 PM
Quote from: gerry on October 19, 2011, 09:39:41 PM
Great result but a poor game for the neutrals
Walcott can't cross for shit. Can they not put him in the middle.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 19, 2011, 11:05:42 PM
Robbed this from the Guardian..

Arsenal got lucky? Arsenal lack conviction? Arsenal looked too relaxed? Arsenal looked too tense? Arsenal don't have enough fun? Arsenal need to tighten and remember that football isn't all about fun? A 1-0 would have been unacceptable to the old Arsenal? Arsenal in crisis? Arsenal have turned a corner? Arsenal need a big strong defender? Arsenal need a more cultured defender because the big strong one they got is part of an antiquated breed. Yes Arsenal have done exactly what we moaned at them to do for over a year but it doesn't count because their strongman defender lacks the key attribute for the role: ENGLISHNESS!?

Arshavin is lazy? Arshavin is a temperamental genius? Arshavin is under appreciated? Aaron Ramsey is quality and Wales are the dark horses of Europe. Aaron Ramsey doesn't get enough playtime? Aaron Ramsey hasn't developed fast enough? An off hand comment to start a 12 page comment war between Liverpool and Man U fans? This was more convincing than the Chelsea/Man U/ Man City victory? This was less convincing than the Chelsea/Man U/ Man City victory?

Arsenal lack replacements for Fabregas and Nasri? Arsenal don't need replacements? Arsenal need to go back to their old shape? Arsenal's new shape is brilliant? Wenger is brialliant? Wenger is misguided? Wenger is an optimist? Wenger is a hero? Wenger is a pragmatist?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 23, 2011, 01:04:51 PM
Van Persie on the bench today. Without his name on the team sheet, Arsenal are very average looking indeed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 23, 2011, 02:06:15 PM
Feck 1 each.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 23, 2011, 02:20:15 PM
Same old. A bit of head tennis in the Arsenal box - goal. Absolutely useless at defending anything above shoulder height.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 23, 2011, 02:49:36 PM
not long until rvp comes on
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 23, 2011, 03:02:11 PM
who else 2  1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 23, 2011, 03:11:03 PM
Van the Man.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 23, 2011, 03:21:24 PM
panic off up to 7th now.  Chelsea next sunday will be a harder test.  Gervinho had a good game and i even seen arshavin tracking back once.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 23, 2011, 03:26:23 PM
Just doing the math here, when do we play city?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 23, 2011, 03:27:09 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on October 23, 2011, 03:26:23 PM
Just doing the math here, when do we play city?

14-0?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 23, 2011, 03:31:11 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on October 23, 2011, 03:26:23 PM
Just doing the math here, when do we play city?

sunday 18 December  could be a dark day
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: laoislad on October 23, 2011, 03:36:09 PM
At least you can watch Match of the Day tonight gerry.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 23, 2011, 03:39:24 PM
its not often i can
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 23, 2011, 04:42:37 PM
Need to place Van Persie in some sort of vault in between games. He's single-handedly lifting Arsenal from the cloud of despair.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 23, 2011, 04:50:26 PM
Quote from: gerry on October 23, 2011, 03:39:24 PM
its not often i can

It's going to be some show with goals and red cards.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 23, 2011, 07:36:51 PM
Slowly she does it need a secondary striker, wonder what the story with Park is, not getting a look in. Maybe that Danish lad at Sunderland could be worth a look at...

An injury to RVP and the Goons would be fecked...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 23, 2011, 10:20:41 PM
I see Walcott wants to firm up his contract(well according to the Sun Ind. so maybe they are flying a kite).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 24, 2011, 07:13:09 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 23, 2011, 07:36:51 PM
Slowly she does it need a secondary striker, wonder what the story with Park is, not getting a look in..



Arsene Wenger confirms Park Chu Young will make his debut against Bolton in the Carling Cup on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 25, 2011, 08:49:44 PM
1 down
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 25, 2011, 08:56:47 PM
all square,  arshavin
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 25, 2011, 08:59:35 PM
Quote from: gerry on October 24, 2011, 07:13:09 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 23, 2011, 07:36:51 PM
Slowly she does it need a secondary striker, wonder what the story with Park is, not getting a look in..



Arsene Wenger confirms Park Chu Young will make his debut against Bolton in the Carling Cup on Tuesday.

got his first tonight

2 1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 25, 2011, 10:57:39 PM
Quote from: gerry on October 25, 2011, 08:59:35 PM
Quote from: gerry on October 24, 2011, 07:13:09 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 23, 2011, 07:36:51 PM
Slowly she does it need a secondary striker, wonder what the story with Park is, not getting a look in..



Arsene Wenger confirms Park Chu Young will make his debut against Bolton in the Carling Cup on Tuesday.

got his first tonight

2 1

nice finish too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXpONZXOyQg&feature=channel_video_title (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXpONZXOyQg&feature=channel_video_title)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 25, 2011, 11:13:54 PM
Was really impressed with Arshavin's performance tonight. From the first minute he chased and harried. At throw ins or free kicks against he was constantly directing and goading other players. Scored a typical Arshavin goal and cleverly set up Park's. If he can maintain that performance level, RVP has a partner.

Vermaelan was steady - do you drop the German or Koscielny?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 25, 2011, 11:18:41 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 25, 2011, 11:13:54 PM
Was really impressed with Arshavin's performance tonight. From the first minute he chased and harried. At throw ins or free kicks against he was constantly directing and goading other players. Scored a typical Arshavin goal and cleverly set up Park's. If he can maintain that performance level, RVP has a partner.

Vermaelan was steady - do you drop the German or Koscielny?

TV5 injured his calf tonight..

Any of the fringe players play well?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 25, 2011, 11:30:19 PM
Park rarely wasted a ball but seemed a bit light on it. He's clever but hard to see him being prolific.

Ox-Chamb definitely has more natural ability than Theo but needs a run of games. Didn't play particularly well and made a few poor decisions/caught on the ball but has the ability to hold off players which Walcott lacks. I read where someone wrote a few weeks ago that he was faster than Walcott. He's not.

Frimpong was so-so. Again, possesses good physical strength but has a habit of losing the ball unchallenged with a heavy touch and then throws himself at the ball - liable for a few reds.

Coquelin had a decent game but again lacks a bit of concentration and he gave a suicide pass for their goal.

Fabianski had a real Almunia moment and let the ball squirm through his hands and somehow over the bar.

Nobody really stood out though, as it has been in this competition over the years, that natural flair they produce in glimpses is enough to overcome most non-top 4 teams.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: EC Unique on October 29, 2011, 02:35:50 PM
Great result in great game. Arsenal look like they could make the top 4 after all.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 29, 2011, 02:42:43 PM
Bizarre game, you won't see worse defending from again..

Wenger talks about belief a lot, that game will give Arsenal massive belief..

Walcott had a very good game..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on October 29, 2011, 02:47:06 PM
Didn't see it - mad result. 

I hear Bayern Munich are sniffing (£20M) for RVP; it'll be a complete disaster for the Gooners if he leaves. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: EC Unique on October 29, 2011, 02:51:16 PM
Currently top scorer in PL. Would he not be worth more?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 29, 2011, 07:47:41 PM
Half-time at the Chelsea game..

(https://p.twimg.com/Ac70MaVCAAAGFCp.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2011, 08:11:01 PM
First match I've not seen live in yonks.

Therein lies the solution. Drive to the backwoods of Tyrone when the Arse are on.

2 goals at Old Trafford, 3 at Blackburn, 5 at Chelsea.

If somehow they learn how to defend before the end of the season and RVP completes one full season they could make the top 4 yet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on October 29, 2011, 10:54:49 PM
great result today, long may it continue



John terry is now famous for three slips.

1) the champions league final.
2) Vs Arsenal when arsenal won 5-3
3) and the one into Wayne Bridges Wife
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 29, 2011, 11:11:46 PM
Quote from: gerry on October 29, 2011, 10:54:49 PM
great result today, long may it continue



John terry is now famous for three slips.

1) the champions league final.
2) Vs Arsenal when arsenal won 5-3
3) and the one into Wayne Bridges Wife

had he not a slip of the tongue last weekend too
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: tyroneman on October 29, 2011, 11:26:20 PM
What was with RvPs 'salute' today after his second goal. Bit odd ....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on October 29, 2011, 11:32:44 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on October 29, 2011, 11:26:20 PM
What was with RvPs 'salute' today after his second goal. Bit odd ....

Looked a bit RvP uber alles?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2011, 11:42:21 PM
Was he taking the piss outta Terry?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mM0wFCoAKo
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2011, 12:11:52 PM
Looking forward to Rod Fanni tonight.

Remember the headline - Rod Fanni excites Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on November 01, 2011, 08:57:21 PM
how long until its rvp time
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 01, 2011, 09:41:15 PM
Very flat tonight. Although Park did rightly in the Carling Cup, he was exposed at this level. The centre backs were solid. Mertesecker plays like Tony Adams mid-90s - does the job and no more.

Again, without RVP Arsenal are ordinary.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 02, 2011, 07:52:38 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 01, 2011, 09:41:15 PM
Very flat tonight. Although Park did rightly in the Carling Cup, he was exposed at this level. The centre backs were solid. Mertesecker plays like Tony Adams mid-90s - does the job and no more.

Again, without RVP Arsenal are ordinary.

Jaysus O'Neill you're a hard task master, it was Park's first proper start with a midfield that he had never played with before and against a team that would actually know him pretty well. He worked hard but had a heavy first touch, patience you can't judge him after just one game.

Without RVP they had chances, Ramsey in particular, RVP had a great chance as well. It was a tidy clean sheet, OM had 1 shot on target all night and it was the first time TV5 and the BFG played together, looked good I thought. Top of their group with 4 points against their main rivals. You'd take that every day of the week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 02, 2011, 10:01:08 AM
Agree that the centre back partnership looks good. Where to play Koscielny now? He has arguably been Arsenal's best CB this season, especially recently. Does it spell trouble for Gibbs?

Santos is no Lauren. Hopefully he works on that defensive side of things - the holes he left last night were frightening.

RVP is a bit like Cesc - he makes players like Walcott and Gervinho look a lot better than they are.

As for Park - fair enough - but I think he's a lightweight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 05, 2011, 03:56:03 PM
2-0 at HT. RVP tap in and an assist for Vermaelen.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on November 05, 2011, 04:37:55 PM
RVP goal from Walcott...shooting at the keeper again!

That santos buck makes me nervous. Classy finish from arteta thoigh
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 05, 2011, 05:00:43 PM
2 assists and a goal by RVP. How he wasn't nominated for the ballon d'or is beyond me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on November 05, 2011, 05:16:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 05, 2011, 05:00:43 PM
2 assists and a goal by RVP. How he wasn't nominated for the ballon d'or is beyond me.
Yep should have been nominated. Arsenal in fine form now! thanks to Wenger astute signings.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on November 05, 2011, 06:50:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 05, 2011, 05:00:43 PM
2 assists and a goal by RVP. How he wasn't nominated for the ballon d'or is beyond me.

The Light Pelé?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 05, 2011, 07:17:08 PM
...and Wenger's down for an award. For what?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on November 05, 2011, 07:25:40 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 05, 2011, 07:17:08 PM
...and Wenger's down for an award. For what?
Must be the win v Barcelona?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 19, 2011, 01:05:45 PM
Big mistake by the German CB - http://arsenalist.com/video/?id=xmfuih

1-0 Norwich.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 19, 2011, 01:14:36 PM
1-1 RVP. - http://arsenalist.com/video/?id=xmfust

Arsenal could have scored 5 already. They're waltzing through Norwich. Theo looks like he could skin their FB all day long.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: CorkMan on November 19, 2011, 01:33:42 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 19, 2011, 01:14:36 PM
1-1 RVP.

Arsenal could have scored 5 already. They're waltzing through Norwich. Theo looks like he could skin their FB all day long.

Not watching it. Have they really looked that good? They have been in some form lately.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 19, 2011, 01:36:05 PM
Before they equalised, yes. Van Persie missed a couple, Walcott had one cleared off the line and Gevinho's had two half-chances. Since RVP's goal though they've stepped off the gas a little.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on November 19, 2011, 02:01:38 PM
What a fecking miss
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on November 19, 2011, 02:04:06 PM
Its a pity he is leaving
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 19, 2011, 02:42:54 PM
That'll do nicely. No stopping the Van.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 19, 2011, 10:41:50 PM
Just watched the game. Walcott looking good and starting to put in consistent performances, still expect him to fall over his little toe at any moment.

Artea has brought a lot of composure to the Arsenal midfield where as last year the Arse were a disaster in the last 15 minutes of games as Fabregas in particular drove us on to still attack now the difference is they're slowing down the game and playing the safer pass. I love the Brazilian Andy Reid.

Interesting stat RVP has scored 1 league goal less this season than the whole of Liverpool FC.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: tommysmith on November 20, 2011, 10:07:29 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 19, 2011, 02:42:54 PM
That'll do nicely. No stopping the Van.

It will be interesting to see how things will go  when he gets injured.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: under the bar on November 20, 2011, 10:17:28 AM
Arsene throwing towel in at end of season? Silk purse etc
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: bridgegael on November 20, 2011, 11:09:41 AM
van persie is playin wel so he is.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 20, 2011, 11:10:16 AM
Quote from: under the bar on November 20, 2011, 10:17:28 AM
Arsene throwing towel in at end of season? Silk purse etc

Who said that?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gawa316 on November 20, 2011, 12:38:37 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 19, 2011, 10:41:50 PM
Just watched the game. Walcott looking good and starting to put in consistent performances, still expect him to fall over his little toe at any moment.

Artea has brought a lot of composure to the Arsenal midfield where as last year the Arse were a disaster in the last 15 minutes of games as Fabregas in particular drove us on to still attack now the difference is they're slowing down the game and playing the safer pass. I love the Brazilian Andy Reid.

Interesting stat RVP has scored 1 league goal less this season than the whole of Liverpool FC.

Borin..er interesting fact, Liverpool have let in 2 goals more this season than Arsenal FC have in 1 game!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 22, 2011, 11:06:52 AM
(http://www.balls.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/o02f4fj-iphone.jpg)

Destiny..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2011, 07:23:46 PM
This will be a tough one tonight. Dortmund are flying at the minute, hammering teams at home and had a great away win in Munich at the weekend.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on November 23, 2011, 07:43:53 PM
Both on unbeaten runs both not great at the back a score draw looks likely.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2011, 08:48:35 PM
The media consensus seems to be that it was a dull half. I found it a sort of 100mph mesmerising. Not much quality but two teams full of confidence playing typical Premier League football. Losing the Goat is a massive blow to the Germans.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on November 23, 2011, 08:53:39 PM
who else
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on November 23, 2011, 08:56:39 PM
Position    Team                  P    GD    PTS
1            Arsenal                    5    3    11
2            Marseille                    5    3    8
3            Olympiakos             5    -1    4
4            Borussia Dortmund      5    -5    4
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on November 23, 2011, 08:58:11 PM
Delete that Gerry for fucks sake!!!  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2011, 08:59:24 PM
That was some work by Song. Didn't he do that earlier in the year as well?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2011, 09:06:05 PM
Gervinho has wasted some good ball tonight. Get the Russian on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on November 23, 2011, 09:06:15 PM
thats twice in two weeks gervinho done that
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on November 23, 2011, 09:07:19 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 23, 2011, 09:06:05 PM
. Get the Russian on.

thats says it all
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2011, 09:10:41 PM
Quote from: gerry on November 23, 2011, 09:07:19 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 23, 2011, 09:06:05 PM
. Get the Russian on.

thats says it all

To be fair to Gervinho, he won't hide no matter how many times he cocks up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2011, 09:30:32 PM
What can you say about VP?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on November 23, 2011, 09:33:04 PM
Position    Team          P    GD    PTS
1              RVP                 5    4    11
2           Marseille              5    2    7
3          Olympiakos        5    0    6
4    Borussia Dortmund         5    -6    4
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 23, 2011, 09:35:54 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 23, 2011, 09:30:32 PM
What can you say about VP?

Its an awful shame he's joining Madrid next summer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2011, 10:21:34 PM
Arsenal worked their collective balls off tonight. Whereas in previous years they may have had all the talent in the world but a suspect work-rate, this year seems to have seen a flip in that regard.

Under no illusions though; take Van Persie out and Arsenal are middlin to good.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 24, 2011, 10:18:50 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 23, 2011, 10:21:34 PM
Arsenal worked their collective balls off tonight. Whereas in previous years they may have had all the talent in the world but a suspect work-rate, this year seems to have seen a flip in that regard.

Under no illusions though; take Van Persie out and Arsenal are middlin to good.

Agree with the work-rate, Worf, Song, Arteta, Ramsey and even Walcott were all excellent without the ball. They seem more direct as well and finally seem to be getting that balance right between tippy-tappy and just having a pop, the direct running of the two wingers is helping in that regard. The BFG is settling and while I wouldn't be a 100% confident in him I like the fact that he doesn't let a mistake affect him and he just gets on with it.

If they can a secure a striker with a good EPL record in the January window,personally I think Shane Long would be worth a punt, good pace and movement, then they should finish comfortable enough in the UCL places.  If you look at the Arsenal team last night and add in Diaby, The Russian, Wishere, Sagna, Gibbes, Benny, Coquelin and Frimpong, there is plenty of dept in midfield and defence, they're just really scarce on options upfront..

Team last night

Poland, France, Germany, Belgium, Brazil, England, Spain, Cameroon, Wales, Ivory Coast, Holland

Has that ever happened before 11 different nationalities with an Israeli and a Swiss national coming off the bench as well...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 25, 2011, 10:22:24 PM
Some facts on Van the Man

The Flying Dutchman has netted 44 goals in 50 games for club and country this calendar year at an average of 0.88 goals a game. That's a better strike rate than Lionel Messi. Only Cristiano Ronaldo can better it with 53 in 55 games!

He's now gunning for records. His 13 goals in the first 12 league matches has only ever been bettered in the Premier League by Les Ferdinand, who hit 14 by this stage but failed to score in game 13.

The Arsenal captain has netted 31 Premier League goals in 2011. Only Alan Shearer (36 in 1995) and Thierry Henry (34 in 2004) have scored more in a calendar year. Van Persie still has a possible seven games left in which to smash Alan Shearer's record number of goals in a calendar year

(http://news.arseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Henry.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 26, 2011, 06:42:40 PM
Flat and lethargic so far. Started Arshavin over Gervinho with little return. Was hoping he'd start without Van Persie and Gervinho and bring them on after 65 or so. RVP well marked.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 26, 2011, 06:57:49 PM
Big trouble now. 0-1 with 20 to go.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Blowitupref on November 26, 2011, 07:29:17 PM
Are Spurs going to take Gooners normally guaranteed CL spot?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 26, 2011, 07:43:00 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 26, 2011, 07:29:17 PM
Are Spurs going to take Gooners normally guaranteed CL spot?

I would think this year there will be a clear split with the 2 Manc clubs top 2 with the other 2 places taken from 2 out of Spurs, the Arse, Chelski and Liverpool.  Hard at this stage to tell who it will b with Spurs probably strongest for 1 place with a straight 3 way shoot out for the other one between the other 3.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: rossie mad on November 26, 2011, 08:00:54 PM

I wouldnt cement man utds place in the top two just yet.there is obviously a glaring hole in the middle of the park with them and they seem to be just scrapping results lately.spurs have the best midfield pairing in the premier league at the moment with modric and parker both complimenting each other brillantlly.if you dont have creativity coming from the middle of the park you will struggle
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 26, 2011, 08:25:27 PM
That performance was coming. After the run they'd been on and the effort they put in on Wednesday night, there was going to be a flat performance. Still should have won it in those last 10 minutes. Arteta can be that split second slow on the ball at times. Gervinho is Walcott minus the predictability. Theo probably a better crosser at the minute though. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 26, 2011, 08:52:05 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 26, 2011, 07:43:00 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 26, 2011, 07:29:17 PM
Are Spurs going to take Gooners normally guaranteed CL spot?

I would think this year there will be a clear split with the 2 Manc clubs top 2 with the other 2 places taken from 2 out of Spurs, the Arse, Chelski and Liverpool.  Hard at this stage to tell who it will b with Spurs probably strongest for 1 place with a straight 3 way shoot out for the other one between the other 3.

Way too early to tell yet. Spurs are on a great run at the moment but they have a very difficult last third of the season fixtures wise with having to go away to nearly all the top teams.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on November 29, 2011, 07:23:38 PM
Only one starter from the saturday game. Surprising line out seeing that we are going to win feck all other cups this year.

Nasri the only saturday starter the city to.

#Fabianski, #Djourou, #Squillaci, #Koscielny, #Miquel, #Frimpong, #Coquelin, #Benayoun, #Ox-Chamberlain, #Park, #Chamakh.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on November 29, 2011, 07:24:19 PM
Only one starter from the saturday game. Surprising line out seeing that we are going to win feck all other cups this year.

Nasri the only saturday starter the city to.

#Fabianski, #Djourou, #Squillaci, #Koscielny, #Miquel, #Frimpong, #Coquelin, #Benayoun, #Ox-Chamberlain, #Park, #Chamakh.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on November 29, 2011, 07:30:24 PM
Quote from: gerry on November 29, 2011, 07:24:19 PM
Only one starter from the saturday game. Surprising line out seeing that we are going to win feck all other cups this year.


Yeah surprising, Wenger has next weeks CL tie to rest players.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2011, 07:37:33 PM
Quote from: gerry on November 29, 2011, 07:24:19 PM
Only one starter from the saturday game. Surprising line out seeing that we are going to win feck all other cups this year.

Nasri the only saturday starter the city to.

#Fabianski, #Djourou, #Squillaci, #Koscielny, #Miquel, #Frimpong, #Coquelin, #Benayoun, #Ox-Chamberlain, #Park, #Chamakh.

To be fair the first string looked flat on Saturday. Also, winning a trophy this year isn't as important as it was last year. To finish in the top 4 and secure CL football having lost Fabregas, Nasri and Clichy would be one hell of an achievement.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on November 29, 2011, 08:03:11 PM
i like this stat

#City have not won at #AFC for 28 games since Oct 1975,
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on November 29, 2011, 08:21:47 PM
Chamberlain looks a dog in heat
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2011, 08:52:27 PM
Half time 0-0. Decent performances from Frimpong and Coquelin. Still hard to know what to make of Park. He's confident and has good control but where does he play? He's not a flying winger or a fox in box. Chamakh is a dozy hoor.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on November 29, 2011, 08:55:15 PM
city have 10 internationals playing tonight.  what was nasri at?  can he not stand the heat
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2011, 09:00:36 PM
Quote from: gerry on November 29, 2011, 08:55:15 PM
city have 10 internationals playing tonight.  what was nasri at?  can he not stand the heat

He looked quite happy to be heading off too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2011, 09:56:38 PM
That was a pity. Didn't think that Arsenal side deserved to lose. Aguero cost more than the Arsenal team but he made the difference I suppose.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on November 29, 2011, 09:59:17 PM
all well, another day of gooner slagging at work to look forward to
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2011, 10:02:21 PM
Don't think the arse deserved that, beaten by City's only shot on target.

Still the absence of RVP really shows up the lack of a quality replacement, Park and Chamakh just huffed and puffed.

Still the Kos, Ox, Frimpong and Coquelin were Arsenal's best players and the effort and commitment is definitely gone a up a level from previous seasons.

Probably not the worst thing in the world to get knocked out as the semi-final's normally come around the UCL time and the Arse squad is too short on real quality to compete on all fronts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2011, 10:09:06 PM
Jamie Redknapp talking about Ox-Chamberlain's manly physique, surreal moment there...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2011, 10:17:13 PM
Rumours of a Frimpong/Nasri fight in the tunnel. Feck sake Frimpong. That's not fair.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2011, 11:28:29 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 29, 2011, 10:17:13 PM
Rumours of a Frimpong/Nasri fight in the tunnel. Feck sake Frimpong. That's not fair.

Frimpong took off his jersey to reveal a t-shirt the said BENCH. He then walked over to Nasri and stood right in front of him so he knew who Frimpong was talking about.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Bingo on November 30, 2011, 11:04:21 AM
Dinny/O'Neill, thought i'd take it over here.

Culching at straws - don't think so. Two games don't make Koscienly a success, sure Downing was MOTM V Sunderland. Kosciencly has largely struggled badly to date - so he improved in the last few games and suddenly he is a success. While Henderson and Downing haven't struggled but have yet to justify their fee and they are doomed to failure.

I'm sure that a a majority of Arsenal fans are happy with stats, MOTM awards, international caps, profit on transfers etc to judge a season and team but the main area i look at it is the end of season positions. When Arsenal have spent big to compliment their so called golden generation from the youth ranks I would expect that the money would result in trophies - in the last 5/6 years Arsenal are drifting further away from the top spot, no trophies, plenty of question marks. If Arsenal had spent wisely they wouldn't be in that position.

Liverpool have spent very well in comparison - Suarez, Adam, Enrqiue, Reina. Of course we've had some bad buys. But the 3 you single out far from bad buys at this stage.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 30, 2011, 11:35:16 AM
Quote from: Bingo on November 30, 2011, 11:04:21 AM
If Arsenal had spent wisely they wouldn't be in that position.


Arsenal are a meritocratically run club, they do spend wisely that is why they are in the position they are, Wenger would look at Carroll and Henderson and see young potential but would he spend £55m on potential not a hope in hell. Liverpool have gambled this season, failure to make the UCL will set them back, for all that investment they are still not in the top four standings and are level on points with Arsenal who had only 4 points from their first 5 games. Liverpool can't wait for the Carroll and Henderson to develop and they would have expected Downing to hit the ground running, they haven't and are looking at the moment like very poor signings.

Most Arsenal fans have no ludicrous sense of entitlement and as long as commitment, attitude and effort is maintained then they tend to be happy with their lot although O'Neill and Gerry might disagree.

I think if Spurs get through January in the same position, they'll finish top 4, Chelsea's results are not to be unexpected as any coach will tell you that a change in style nearly always results in short-term pain, Man U reverted back to their awful crap after their early season promise was wiped out by the Man City result, so I expect Chelsea if they stick with AVB to be very good in the new year and real challengers next season. Man City will win it and I think Arsenal and Liverpool's lack of dept will mean they will miss out, all that could change after January mind.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Bingo on November 30, 2011, 11:59:02 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 30, 2011, 11:35:16 AM
Quote from: Bingo on November 30, 2011, 11:04:21 AM
If Arsenal had spent wisely they wouldn't be in that position.


Arsenal are a meritocratically run club, they do spend wisely that is why they are in the position they are, Wenger would look at Carroll and Henderson and see young potential but would he spend £55m on potential not a hope in hell. Liverpool have gambled this season, failure to make the UCL will set them back, for all that investment they are still not in the top four standings and are level on points with Arsenal who had only 4 points from their first 5 games. Liverpool can't wait for the Carroll and Henderson to develop and they would have expected Downing to hit the ground running, they haven't and are looking at the moment like very poor signings.

Most Arsenal fans have no ludicrous sense of entitlement and as long as commitment, attitude and effort is maintained then they tend to be happy with their lot although O'Neill and Gerry might disagree.

I think if Spurs get through January in the same position, they'll finish top 4, Chelsea's results are not to be unexpected as any coach will tell you that a change in style nearly always results in short-term pain, Man U reverted back to their awful crap after their early season promise was wiped out by the Man City result, so I expect Chelsea if they stick with AVB to be very good in the new year and real challengers next season. Man City will win it and I think Arsenal and Liverpool's lack of dept will mean they will miss out, all that could change after January mind.

I agree largely with that - not much in many of the teams fighting for 3/4 places and a few points could separate the lot.

I think Liverpools squad has largely improved and we have options now we never had - no way could we have gone to Chelsea and rest some of our main players and still get a win in the past. I genuinely think that our squad is stronger while arsenals is going the other way.

Also by spending wisely i meant targetting the right areas - namely goalkeeper and CB, even in CM the last few years. I think Arsenal could have taken one of the recent league titles had they a decent keeper, another strong CB and a strong defensive midfielder. For years they have had a weak spine that got exposed and cost them a league title and a cup or two.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carntogher on November 30, 2011, 03:30:28 PM
Quote from: Bingo on November 30, 2011, 11:04:21 AM
Dinny/O'Neill, thought i'd take it over here.

Culching at straws - don't think so. Two games don't make Koscienly a success, sure Downing was MOTM V Sunderland. Kosciencly has largely struggled badly to date - so he improved in the last few games and suddenly he is a success. While Henderson and Downing haven't struggled but have yet to justify their fee and they are doomed to failure.

I'm sure that a a majority of Arsenal fans are happy with stats, MOTM awards, international caps, profit on transfers etc to judge a season and team but the main area i look at it is the end of season positions. When Arsenal have spent big to compliment their so called golden generation from the youth ranks I would expect that the money would result in trophies - in the last 5/6 years Arsenal are drifting further away from the top spot, no trophies, plenty of question marks. If Arsenal had spent wisely they wouldn't be in that position.

Liverpool have spent very well in comparison - Suarez, Adam, Enrqiue, Reina. Of course we've had some bad buys. But the 3 you single out far from bad buys at this stage.

You are way off the mark on Koscielny.  He has been outstanding all season and earned a call up and start for France in the last Euro qualifying game.  I doubt you have watched every one of his performances this season before reaching your conclusion.

Henderson, Carroll, Downing....all vastly overpriced, Kenny just throwing enough of mud and hoping some of it sticks....a real scattergun approach that has reaped success (suarez, adam, enrique) and failure.  The 100 plus million could have been far better spent.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Bingo on November 30, 2011, 03:41:15 PM
Quote from: Carntogher on November 30, 2011, 03:30:28 PM
You are way off the mark on Koscielny.  He has been outstanding all season and earned a call up and start for France in the last Euro qualifying game.  I doubt you have watched every one of his performances this season before reaching your conclusion.

Henderson, Carroll, Downing....all vastly overpriced, Kenny just throwing enough of mud and hoping some of it sticks....a real scattergun approach that has reaped success (suarez, adam, enrique) and failure.  The 100 plus million could have been far better spent.

Yes by all accounts Koscienly has been better this year but has this improvement not been more recent since Varmalen and Arteta has come into the team and the whole team has had more balance. I don't watch him too closely but Arsenal have looked shakey at the back when he the main CB.

Henderson has impressed at times - Chelsea 1-1 in league he comes on, tightens up midfield and impresses as the game turns and Liverpool win 1-2. Its far from failure, Downing the same. Has yet to hit the heights but he's not exactly on the scraphead yet.

I hope you's didn't take the same approach with Henry when he signed for Arsenal  - rate a player on the 1st Dec and class him a failure.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on December 01, 2011, 02:15:31 PM
 125 years today

(http://www.heroesforkids.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/3/small_image/170x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/r/arsenal_sound_200.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on December 03, 2011, 09:41:50 PM
we are up 5th tonight on motd, good to see others scorers than rvp


1. Newcastle/Chelsea, 2. Man City/Norwich, 3. Blackburn/Swansea, 4. Spurs/Bolton, 5. Wigan/Arsenal, 6. Villa/Man Utd, 7. QPR/WBA.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on December 04, 2011, 12:17:17 AM
jasus lada no posts on our 4 0 win today. is o'neill and dinny dead?  if its that quiet on here when we win 4  0.      i will give here a miss when we meet city in two weeks
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 04, 2011, 09:20:22 AM
Quote from: gerry on December 04, 2011, 12:17:17 AM
jasus lada no posts on our 4 0 win today. is o'neill and dinny dead?  if its that quiet on here when we win 4  0.      i will give here a miss when we meet city in two weeks

Na, just don't get to see many Saturday games but watched MOTD there, comfortable enough and a good cure to last weeks European hangover. A really like the balance of the way Arsenal are playing and the directness of their wing play is a tonic to all the tippy tappy toothlessness of the Cesc era. Whisper it but I think Arsenal will get something out of the City game, Arsenal fans have a lot of hostility towards them and motivation for the players won't be a problem (a chance to showcase their talents to their next club as well  :P ). A defence that contains both Richards and Clichy will give up chances and the new direct approach means Arsenal aren't as frivolous plus corners are now a threat with the Verminator...

Up to 5th and the treble is still on.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 04, 2011, 10:01:41 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 04, 2011, 09:20:22 AM
Quote from: gerry on December 04, 2011, 12:17:17 AM
jasus lada no posts on our 4 0 win today. is o'neill and dinny dead?  if its that quiet on here when we win 4  0.      i will give here a miss when we meet city in two weeks

Na, just don't get to see many Saturday games but watched MOTD there, comfortable enough and a good cure to last weeks European hangover. A really like the balance of the way Arsenal are playing and the directness of their wing play is a tonic to all the tippy tappy toothlessness of the Cesc era. Whisper it but I think Arsenal will get something out of the City game, Arsenal fans have a lot of hostility towards them and motivation for the players won't be a problem (a chance to showcase their talents to their next club as well  :P ). A defence that contains both Richards and Clichy will give up chances and the new direct approach means Arsenal aren't as frivolous plus corners are now a threat with the Verminator...

Up to 5th and the treble is still on.....

Walcott seems to be able to ride the physical stuff these last few months. I've noticed a more aggressive streak to his game recently too and it seems to be paying off. Still relatively brain-dead in terms of creative football but he's giving full backs a bit of a headache with pace and strength. Again it was good to see the work-rate. Song, Gervinho and Arteta gave the centre backs as little to do as possible by working their balls off. The Verminator spent a lot of the time in their half - even for Arteta's goal I think he was the player closing in on the keeper.

Starting to stroke the ball about too. Beating the teams they should. Need to keep winning as Spurs don't seem to be letting up. Just finish above Spurs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on December 04, 2011, 03:10:35 PM
Arsenal's record against Leeds United in the FACup is P15 W6 D7 L2.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 04, 2011, 06:59:39 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 05, 2011, 04:40:35 PM
What is he saying?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 05, 2011, 04:54:44 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on December 05, 2011, 04:40:35 PM
What is he saying?
I'm off in the summer?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 05, 2011, 05:31:06 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on December 05, 2011, 04:40:35 PM
What is he saying?

And its Arsenal, Arsenal FC ! We're by far the greatest team the world has ever seen!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 05, 2011, 11:17:34 PM
Got an auld tear in my eye looking at Senderos playing for Fulham tonight, he was a useless big lump but he was our big useless lump...could have been sent off too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 05, 2011, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 05, 2011, 11:17:34 PM
Got an auld tear in my eye looking at Senderos playing for Fulham tonight, he was a useless big lump but he was our big useless lump...could have been sent off too.

Same here. He still has that look of 'where the fcuk am I?'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on December 06, 2011, 06:37:08 PM
Fabianski, Djourou, Vermaelen, Squillaci, Santos, Frimpong, Coquelin, Benayoun, Arshavin, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Chamakh.

subs

Mannone, Miquel, Yennaris, Eastmond, Ozyakup, Rosicky, Park.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on December 06, 2011, 08:19:37 PM
Coquelin looked sore. feck they falling like flies tonight
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 06, 2011, 08:44:38 PM
What was the Arse keeper at on that 2nd goal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on December 07, 2011, 10:19:10 PM
A big congratulation to Samir Nasri for transferring from the champions league to the Europa league!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on December 07, 2011, 10:30:40 PM
take your pick  Napoli, Lyon, Zent, CSKA, Bayer Leverkusen, AC Milan, Basel
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 07, 2011, 10:50:03 PM
Love to draw Basel.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2011, 05:47:20 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 08, 2011, 05:56:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 07, 2011, 10:50:03 PM
Love to draw Basel.
Trace and sketch

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 10, 2011, 04:17:22 PM
TV5 enjoying himself at full back, arsenal still struggling to knock one in though
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 10, 2011, 04:30:55 PM
f**k me what a goal!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 10, 2011, 04:43:21 PM
Deadly. - http://arsenalist.com/video/?id=xmw8m7
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 10, 2011, 11:16:44 PM
Just saw it on MoTD. Tasty.

They're fucked when he leaves/gets injured which is a shame.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: michaelg on December 10, 2011, 11:41:23 PM
Anyone see the Tony Adams statue on MOTD?  Looks f**k all like him
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 10, 2011, 11:47:28 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 10, 2011, 11:26:31 PM
I scored a very similar goal the other night in indoor soccer. Only difference is that some boy from Omagh crossed it to me.
Smaller goals so yours is more impressive.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on December 11, 2011, 12:03:03 AM
Statues outside grounds are funny things, do you do all-time-legends or recent heroes.

Healy Park should have one of Mickey in that case.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Karl Kennedy on December 12, 2011, 09:19:50 PM
What would be the chances, if any, of getting three tickets for the Arsenal section for the game v Blackburn at the Emirates on Saturday 4th February?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 12, 2011, 11:27:57 PM
Quote from: Karl Kennedy on December 12, 2011, 09:19:50 PM
What would be the chances, if any, of getting three tickets for the Arsenal section for the game v Blackburn at the Emirates on Saturday 4th February?

Have you an Arsenal membership?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Karl Kennedy on December 12, 2011, 11:40:32 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 12, 2011, 11:27:57 PM
Quote from: Karl Kennedy on December 12, 2011, 09:19:50 PM
What would be the chances, if any, of getting three tickets for the Arsenal section for the game v Blackburn at the Emirates on Saturday 4th February?

Have you an Arsenal membership?
No sorry no arsenal membership.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 12, 2011, 11:45:26 PM
Unless the tickets go to general sale about a week before it then you would need to borrow three memberships from people.

You may know an Arsenal supporter who is a member and they could get you 2 other members who would be willing to lend you

their card for that game. It would be no skin of their nose if they did.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Orangemac on December 12, 2011, 11:46:22 PM
How did Arsenal decide on the players to get statues? Did the fans vote on it?

Great player that Henry was, the whole handball incident has spoiled my memories of him, Bergkamp on the other hand what a player!

Could Arsenal not have had statues of Dixon,Keown and Winterburn alongside Adams with his hand in the air :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 16, 2011, 12:53:12 PM
Milan in UCL - interesting draw.

Wonder will Na$ri play on Sunday? Pity Clichy is suspended.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: CorkMan on December 16, 2011, 10:44:10 PM
Milan - I think we could take them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2011, 10:46:48 PM
Arsenal aren't as good as they were 12 months ago when they beat Barca and an injury to RVP changes everything. But if they were to meet now I'd be fairly confident. It's just great to be in the CL.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on December 16, 2011, 11:09:45 PM
Twas great to see us in the CL draw today while ribbing others in the Thursday draw
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 16, 2011, 11:14:50 PM
If Spurs managed to beat AC Milan Robin Van Persie FC can do likewise.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2011, 11:23:26 PM
Quote from: gerry on December 16, 2011, 11:09:45 PM
Twas great to see us in the CL draw today while ribbing others in the Thursday draw

I think they should have made the Europa League managers draw out the CL balls.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on December 17, 2011, 01:54:57 AM
QuoteI think they should have made the Europa League managers draw out the CL balls.

Would you really want Rudolph the Red Nosed Manager pulling out your balls?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 17, 2011, 01:24:02 PM
Strong rumours fueled by Wenger that Henry could be rejoining Arsenal on loan in January.

I'm warming to that idea...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 17, 2011, 01:30:04 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 17, 2011, 01:24:02 PM
Strong rumours fueled by Wenger that Henry could be rejoining Arsenal on loan in January.

I'm warming to that idea...

will all Irish/Arsenal fans feel the same ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 17, 2011, 02:02:53 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 17, 2011, 01:24:02 PM
Strong rumours fueled by Wenger that Henry could be rejoining Arsenal on loan in January.

I'm warming to that idea...

Would love to see that and to be honest they need some type of back-up.

Did ye hear Bendtner's been doing a bit of wrecking?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 17, 2011, 02:08:31 PM
You would hope and expect Henry to realise he's there to allow RVP recovery time, think he'd enjoy it as he genuinely loves the club.

Good old Nick between that and the pizza drama he really is looking like a knob, MON should knock that immaturity out of him..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 17, 2011, 02:17:29 PM
Every time I see Bendtner I think of this: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Nicklas-Bendtner-has-stunned-Arsenal-s-sports-psychologist-with-the-highest-self-confidence-rating-ever-recorded-article690591.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on December 17, 2011, 02:51:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 17, 2011, 02:17:29 PM
Every time I see Bendtner I think of this: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Nicklas-Bendtner-has-stunned-Arsenal-s-sports-psychologist-with-the-highest-self-confidence-rating-ever-recorded-article690591.html

On missing a chance.....

Quoteyou can also view it as this guy has a remarkably ability to come back after setbacks.

Maybe it is because he gets so much practice.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 18, 2011, 08:50:40 AM
What a man.

Denmark striker Nicklas Bendtner issued a public apology on Saturday following his arrest in Britain on Thursday.

Bendtner and his Sunderland team-mate Lee Cattermole were arrested on suspicion of causing criminal damage to parked cars near Newcastle United's St James' Park stadium.

The 23-year-old, who is on loan from Arsenal, was also involved in a recent incident in a Copenhagen pizzeria when his credit card was rejected.

Bendtner released a statement to the Ekstra Bladet newspaper in Copenhagen in which he said he was "sorry that I have let so many people down" and promised to end the "extracurricular activities" that have got him in trouble.

"Dear friends, fans, Sunderland and family," he said. "The past couple of weeks have seen me involved in several incidents that have attracted much negative attention from the media."

He explained: "After the friendly international against Finland (on November 15) I was part of an unfortunate incident at the team hotel where I more or less was portrayed as a violent character.

"Anybody who knows me can testify that I am not. Police in the end decided not to press charges.

"In connection with a birthday celebration with my girlfriend I was part of an incident at a pizzeria in downtown Copenhagen where my credit card got rejected. I bet you all know the feeling but in this case it was also described in the media.

"The latest incident involves two of my team-mates and me who were picked up by polite and friendly English policemen as CCTV footage allegedly shows us in the process of damaging parked cars after a night out on the town.

"This case now has to make its way through the British system of justice and a verdict is expected by February next year. In connection with all these incidents I have to make one thing very, very clear.

"I am extremely sorry for all of this. I apologise sincerely that I have allowed myself to get involved in things that are interpreted in such dramatic fashion. I fully assume responsibility for not distancing myself from these incidents before they got out of hand.

"The error is mine alone and I am sorry that I have let so many people down. Basically, I am a normal guy with an extraordinary job."

He added: "My primary objective right now is to get rid of my injury and get back into full fitness for Sunderland and Denmark. I hope you will understand that I now promise to concentrate fully on football and only football. My focus has to be here -- and not anywhere else."


Nicklas Bendtner was involved in an embarrassing incident in a Copenhagen diner when the Sunderland striker begged other customers for free pizza, the UK's Daily Mail reports.

The Barclays Premier League star's credit card was declined, forcing the on-loan Arsenal forward to ask diners if he could have some of their food instead.

Bendtner, on a season-long loan at the Stadium of Light, tried to persuade staff to give him the food for free and then rolled out the age old cliche: "Don't you know who I am? I can buy the whole pizzeria."

A member of staff, who did not want to be named, said: "We told him that it did not matter who he was. If he could not pay, there was no pizza."

A customer said: "He was arrogant, acted as if he owned the place. All the people just stood and looked at each other and shook their heads over the way he behaved."

Two female diners eventually stumped up for the multi-millionaire footballer who left soon after in a taxi.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: CorkMan on December 18, 2011, 11:16:47 AM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 17, 2011, 01:30:04 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 17, 2011, 01:24:02 PM
Strong rumours fueled by Wenger that Henry could be rejoining Arsenal on loan in January.

I'm warming to that idea...

will all Irish/Arsenal fans feel the same ?

I could forgive him for what happened in Paris if he started scoring for Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on December 18, 2011, 11:48:50 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 18, 2011, 08:50:40 AM
What a man.

Denmark striker Nicklas Bendtner issued a public apology on Saturday following his arrest in Britain on Thursday.

Bendtner and his Sunderland team-mate Lee Cattermole were arrested on suspicion of causing criminal damage to parked cars near Newcastle United's St James' Park stadium.

The 23-year-old, who is on loan from Arsenal, was also involved in a recent incident in a Copenhagen pizzeria when his credit card was rejected.

Bendtner released a statement to the Ekstra Bladet newspaper in Copenhagen in which he said he was "sorry that I have let so many people down" and promised to end the "extracurricular activities" that have got him in trouble.

"Dear friends, fans, Sunderland and family," he said. "The past couple of weeks have seen me involved in several incidents that have attracted much negative attention from the media."

He explained: "After the friendly international against Finland (on November 15) I was part of an unfortunate incident at the team hotel where I more or less was portrayed as a violent character.

"Anybody who knows me can testify that I am not. Police in the end decided not to press charges.

"In connection with a birthday celebration with my girlfriend I was part of an incident at a pizzeria in downtown Copenhagen where my credit card got rejected. I bet you all know the feeling but in this case it was also described in the media.

"The latest incident involves two of my team-mates and me who were picked up by polite and friendly English policemen as CCTV footage allegedly shows us in the process of damaging parked cars after a night out on the town.

"This case now has to make its way through the British system of justice and a verdict is expected by February next year. In connection with all these incidents I have to make one thing very, very clear.

"I am extremely sorry for all of this. I apologise sincerely that I have allowed myself to get involved in things that are interpreted in such dramatic fashion. I fully assume responsibility for not distancing myself from these incidents before they got out of hand.

"The error is mine alone and I am sorry that I have let so many people down. Basically, I am a normal guy with an extraordinary job."

He added: "My primary objective right now is to get rid of my injury and get back into full fitness for Sunderland and Denmark. I hope you will understand that I now promise to concentrate fully on football and only football. My focus has to be here -- and not anywhere else."


Nicklas Bendtner was involved in an embarrassing incident in a Copenhagen diner when the Sunderland striker begged other customers for free pizza, the UK's Daily Mail reports.

The Barclays Premier League star's credit card was declined, forcing the on-loan Arsenal forward to ask diners if he could have some of their food instead.

Bendtner, on a season-long loan at the Stadium of Light, tried to persuade staff to give him the food for free and then rolled out the age old cliche: "Don't you know who I am? I can buy the whole pizzeria."

A member of staff, who did not want to be named, said: "We told him that it did not matter who he was. If he could not pay, there was no pizza."

A customer said: "He was arrogant, acted as if he owned the place. All the people just stood and looked at each other and shook their heads over the way he behaved."

Two female diners eventually stumped up for the multi-millionaire footballer who left soon after in a taxi.


I don't believe it! He is only there on loan?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on December 18, 2011, 05:18:19 PM
Me and the son the only two in mc gurks in omagh watching the game. Its either a sign of the times or a sign of the teams
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on December 18, 2011, 05:46:43 PM
All Arshavin had to do was roll the ball across the box and it's 1-1. He's paid £90k per week and can't even do that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 18, 2011, 06:21:20 PM
Enjoyed that. City are a decent, physically strong team but not as good as I'd imagined them to be. They could easily have lost that game but that'll stand them in good stead. Arsenal need to lift themselves straight away and get 3 points at Villa on Wednesday to stay with the top 4.

Big pity Walcott hid for most of it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 18, 2011, 06:26:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 18, 2011, 06:21:20 PM
Enjoyed that. City are a decent, physically strong team but not as good as I'd imagined them to be. They could easily have lost that game but that'll stand them in good stead. Arsenal need to lift themselves straight away and get 3 points at Villa on Wednesday to stay with the top 4.

Big pity Walcott hid for most of it.

That won't be hard villa are truly awful
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 18, 2011, 07:07:34 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 18, 2011, 06:26:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 18, 2011, 06:21:20 PM
Enjoyed that. City are a decent, physically strong team but not as good as I'd imagined them to be. They could easily have lost that game but that'll stand them in good stead. Arsenal need to lift themselves straight away and get 3 points at Villa on Wednesday to stay with the top 4.

Big pity Walcott hid for most of it.

That won't be hard villa are truly awful
Won't be as awful if Agbonlahor,Bent return on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 19, 2011, 11:12:17 AM
Good performance yesterday, probably deserved a point as two key decisions went against the Arse, RVP's off-side and the clear handball, if that was a home fixture they probably gone the Goons way. Over all though City had more quality going forward and no matter how hard you try to dislike them they do have a good attitude and play the game the way I like to watch it played, good tempo, honest and intense with plenty of skill.

Need to get two full backs on the paddock as it's making a lot harder for Gervinho and Walcott to find space and they have to and are working really hard in tracking back.

Villa will be tough as McLeish will have them fired up as he does all his teams when they play Arsenal, expect a few yellows and maybe a red card.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Evil Genius on December 19, 2011, 03:53:11 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 19, 2011, 11:12:17 AMVilla will be tough as McLeish will have them fired up as he does all his teams when they play Arsenal, expect a few yellows and maybe a red card.
Villa are a VERY poor side, whose three home League wins to date have come against Norwich, Wigan and Blackburn (they've lost to Bolton and WBA  :o ). Meanwhile, L'pool and MU have both won at Villa Park.

Anything less than 3 points for the Arse will be a blow to their Top Four hopes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on December 19, 2011, 03:59:50 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on December 19, 2011, 03:53:11 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 19, 2011, 11:12:17 AMVilla will be tough as McLeish will have them fired up as he does all his teams when they play Arsenal, expect a few yellows and maybe a red card.
Villa are a VERY poor side, whose three home League wins to date have come against Norwich, Wigan and Blackburn (they've lost to Bolton and WBA  :o ). Meanwhile, L'pool and MU have both won at Villa Park.

Anything less than 3 points for the Arse will be a blow to their Top Four hopes.
The Bolton game was a CC match, we beat them 2-1 at the Reebok last week.  We are a piss-poor side though with too many passengers (Warnock, Hutton, Heskey etc).  Arsenal should beat them going on what I have seen from Villa recently but we have had a relatively good record against them in past 3/4 seasons.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 19, 2011, 04:13:57 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on December 19, 2011, 03:53:11 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 19, 2011, 11:12:17 AMVilla will be tough as McLeish will have them fired up as he does all his teams when they play Arsenal, expect a few yellows and maybe a red card.
Villa are a VERY poor side, whose three home League wins to date have come against Norwich, Wigan and Blackburn (they've lost to Bolton and WBA  :o ). Meanwhile, L'pool and MU have both won at Villa Park.

Anything less than 3 points for the Arse will be a blow to their Top Four hopes.

Have seen how McLeish sets his teams up against Arsenal? If Villa adapt that Caveman approach expect to see Villa fight tooth and nail and don't forget Arsenal will have an emotional and physical hangover from their efforts on Sunday. A loss indeed will be a big blow.

@Doogie

Villa haven't beaten the Arse at home in the league since 1998, they do have a smashing record at Ashburton though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on December 19, 2011, 04:21:53 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 19, 2011, 04:13:57 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on December 19, 2011, 03:53:11 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 19, 2011, 11:12:17 AMVilla will be tough as McLeish will have them fired up as he does all his teams when they play Arsenal, expect a few yellows and maybe a red card.
Villa are a VERY poor side, whose three home League wins to date have come against Norwich, Wigan and Blackburn (they've lost to Bolton and WBA  :o ). Meanwhile, L'pool and MU have both won at Villa Park.

Anything less than 3 points for the Arse will be a blow to their Top Four hopes.

Have seen how McLeish sets his teams up against Arsenal? If Villa adapt that Caveman approach expect to see Villa fight tooth and nail and don't forget Arsenal will have an emotional and physical hangover from their efforts on Sunday. A loss indeed will be a big blow.

@Doogie

Villa haven't beaten the Arse at home in the league since 1998, they do have a smashing record at Ashburton though.

You are right Dinny, we have won 2 of last 3 at Emirates and had a few draws at VP, not confident about getting anything this week though!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 19, 2011, 05:03:41 PM
Villa may have the shopper Bent back and Arsnal are missing Song as well as Djourou.

Is I'dbangthewhore fit?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 19, 2011, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 19, 2011, 05:03:41 PM
Villa may have the shopper Bent back and Arsnal are missing Song as well as Djourou.

Is I'dbangthewhore fit?

Think so, he was just suspended against Liverpool
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on December 19, 2011, 05:11:13 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 19, 2011, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 19, 2011, 05:03:41 PM
Villa may have the shopper Bent back and Arsnal are missing Song as well as Djourou.

Is I'dbangthewhore fit?

Think so, he was just suspended against Liverpool
Bent snapped out shopping during the match yesterday - crazy stuff!  These hoors don't give a hoot what the fans think, why he was not made to attend in first instance baffles me.  Bent has not looked interested for 6/8 weeks now, blamed lack of service and last week had a hatful of chances against Bolton and couldn't put any away.  Possibly the reason why the big clubs have steered clear of him. Still think he is quality but a lazy player at times.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on December 21, 2011, 09:17:12 PM
we are making villa look good
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on December 21, 2011, 09:24:21 PM
down to ten men now, feck
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on December 21, 2011, 09:34:57 PM
And that's why Chelsea shouldn't lend a player to one of their rivals!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 21, 2011, 09:38:05 PM
Hutton's a dirty balax. He spit on VP?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 21, 2011, 09:44:23 PM
Great result for Arsenal especially after the energy exerted on Sunday. They're not the best Arsenal team I've seen but definitely showing great spirit.

If Wenger wants to sell the Russian he better stop playing him...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on December 21, 2011, 09:51:36 PM
Alan Hutton - you can take the boy out of rangers but..........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on December 21, 2011, 09:58:49 PM
a soft enough penalty to get

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xn5vgj_av10236_webcam?start=61#from=embed (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xn5vgj_av10236_webcam?start=61#from=embed)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 21, 2011, 10:03:01 PM
Quote from: gerry on December 21, 2011, 09:58:49 PM
a soft enough penalty to get

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xn5vgj_av10236_webcam?start=61#from=embed (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xn5vgj_av10236_webcam?start=61#from=embed)

Do you think? I thought it was straight forward enough, good skill by Walcott, Clarke had an attempt at a pull back and then went for another go and pulled back across the chest. Hard to argue I thought.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 21, 2011, 10:52:37 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 21, 2011, 09:44:23 PM
Great result for Arsenal especially after the energy exerted on Sunday. They're not the best Arsenal team I've seen but definitely showing great spirit.

If Wenger wants to sell the Russian he better stop playing him...

I was thinking about these new-found qualities earlier Dinny. Losing Fabregas and Nasri seemed like a chronic change but the replacements, albeit of lesser ability, seem to have altered the mindset. Or is it down to a different philiosophy with the existing players? I know the main culprits of Almunia, Bender, Denilson and Eboue are gone but there's a steeliness we haven't witnessed since the Vieira days.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 24, 2011, 09:58:17 AM
Looks like Tierry might be back for a limited run.  Possibly shore up top 4 finish?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 12:53:01 PM
Had a dream last night that Chamakh scored 4 goals v QPR on NYE.

Some stuff that brandy poitin.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on December 27, 2011, 12:58:07 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 12:53:01 PM
Had a dream last night that Chamakh scored 4 goals v QPR on NYE.

Some stuff that brandy poitin.

Is that his nickname? Pretty hard to put it in a song.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 01:09:54 PM
Well, I'm gonna get wired into him tonight to see if Collie McCullagh can score 1-9 in the 2012 AIF.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 02:22:04 PM
Walcott out with illness. Yossi Benny starts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 03:10:29 PM
1-0 Gervinho. He doesn't half make a meal of easy chances, even when he scores.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 27, 2011, 03:39:24 PM
1-1 at the moment any streams?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 03:40:06 PM
It was too easy for Arsenal up to that equaliser.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on December 27, 2011, 03:46:07 PM
First goal on BBC website:

Former Tottenham manager David Pleat at the Emirates Stadium on BBC Radio 5 live: "Gervinho certainly has the ability to unbalance defenders with his ability to go either way, but I am not so certain about his final ball."

1508: GOALFLASH Arsenal 1-0 Wolves (Gervinho)


Second goal:

Former Tottenham manager David Pleat at the Emirates Stadium on BBC Radio 5 live: "Thomas Vermaelen has been excellent at left-back, using all his experience as a centre-back to cover the men defending inside him."

1538: GOALFLASH Arsenal 1-1 Wolves (Steven Fletcher)


Pleat is a Pratt.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 04:04:24 PM
RVP has half the Wolves team marking him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 04:16:17 PM
Arsenal badly need another striker on. Everything is played to RVP who has zero room.

Arshavin on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Square Ball on December 27, 2011, 04:23:16 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 27, 2011, 03:39:24 PM
1-1 at the moment any streams?
[/quotesopcast channel 122909
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 04:28:00 PM
Wolves keeper playing a blinder. Mertesecker and Van Persie denied.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 27, 2011, 04:42:51 PM
Wolves will do well to hold on with 10 men.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on December 27, 2011, 04:52:07 PM
Former Tottenham manager David Pleat at the Emirates Stadium on BBC Radio 5 live: "The Wolves supporters in that far corner of the Emirates are beginning to believe that their magnificent defensive work might just pay off with a draw here."

Pleat tees it up....come on!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 04:56:28 PM
No one seems to want 4th place this year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2011, 05:10:33 PM
Mountains of possession and shots. Some goalkeeping performance from Hennessey.

After Arsenal scored in the 8th minutes, they proceeded to keep possession in and around the centre circle and own half. There must've been about 40 passes. They just stopped doing what had worked for the previous 8 minutes - attack Wolves. It came back to bite them as after Wolves scored they played with 2 banks of four on the edge of the penalty box. Extremely frustrating not to capitalise on yesterday's draws.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on December 27, 2011, 05:18:30 PM
Arsenal could do with a big target man up front.

One with a ponytail.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on December 27, 2011, 05:21:50 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on December 27, 2011, 05:18:30 PM
Arsenal could do with a big target man up front.

One with a ponytail.

Carroll + £40,000,000 for Bendtner?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on December 29, 2011, 09:55:07 PM
Arsenal offer short-term deal to Thierry Henry  (http://www.espn.co.uk/espn/sport/story/128206.html)

hopefully a few more to follow
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2011, 11:59:34 PM
What needs to happen is a full back (temp) and a striker (perm). Henry would be a class addition for the romantics but if something happened RVP, a 34 yr old MLS player for 2 months and Park will see Arsenal fall away from 4th. They need a world class forward - someone like Marco Reus. The full back situation is troublesome to solve. Arsenal need someone on loan as Santos, Gibbs and Jenkinson will probably see action before long and there are a glut of CBs who can play FB. Wayne Bridge possibly but he scares me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on December 30, 2011, 11:47:39 PM
£48.50 for a henry t shirt on ebay, with 5 days left.  (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Shirt-Arsenal-2004-05-L-14-Henry-Maillot-Jersey-New-York-Nike-France-/190619329120?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c61cc2260)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on December 31, 2011, 12:33:47 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Shirt-Arsenal-2004-05-L-14-Henry-Maillot-Jersey-New-York-Nike-France-/190619329120?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c61cc2260 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Shirt-Arsenal-2004-05-L-14-Henry-Maillot-Jersey-New-York-Nike-France-/190619329120?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c61cc2260)

Has anyone told Theo he is no longer 14
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on December 31, 2011, 04:15:17 PM
Walcott has to finish that! Terrible miss.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 31, 2011, 05:06:37 PM
Well well well 4 points from their first 5 games including a humiliation and now the Arsenal lie comfortably in 4th and have only conceded 12 goals since that 5th game.

What I learned from that game on Setanta is that David Fairclough is a clown though, had to turn down the volume in the end.

Oh and Mikel Arteta is a seriously handsome man, I think I could lick him..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 31, 2011, 05:56:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 31, 2011, 05:06:37 PM
Oh and Mikel Arteta is a seriously handsome man, I think I could lick him..
Hoof Hearted asked the question on the Sinead O'Connor thread i think we may have one here?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 31, 2011, 08:18:49 PM
Walcott is some balax.

Arsenal badly need someone to put the ball in the net alongside RVP. He's actually going through a poorish spell right now (converting 1 in 7) but is getting no help. When Walcott was through 1-on-1 he was too busy wiping the wing mirrors.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 31, 2011, 08:32:35 PM
So the arrival of Henry can't come soon enough? 

Let's hope he is as successful/good as Larsson was at Man U but is it true that he and Van Persie didn't on?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 01, 2012, 08:55:15 AM
TV5 out for 3 weeks, big Tony was at the game yesterday, could he be doing an Henry

(http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/31/article-1325343269124-0F4E2EE300000578-348069_636x571.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 01, 2012, 09:28:26 AM
WTF? He's out? Is there someone assassinating FBs or stand-in FBs?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 01, 2012, 09:34:58 AM
Liam Brady was about yesterday too, maybe that is the creative midfielder that Arsene needs ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 02, 2012, 05:09:23 PM
Chelsea result a bad one for Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 02, 2012, 07:08:48 PM
Another red card, enjoying watching Coquelin at full back. He's got the minerals.

Edit: theo and gerviniho shite as usual
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 02, 2012, 07:12:49 PM
Silly f**king bastard chesney. Has come for a couple balls and not been remotely close. What a tit
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on January 02, 2012, 07:13:53 PM
feck that but its being all fulham the last 20 minutes
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 02, 2012, 07:17:33 PM
Had a bad feeling about this all day. Haven't seen Arsenal play as badly in a long time. Fulham by far the best side second half.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 02, 2012, 07:20:09 PM
Well f**k.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Minder on January 02, 2012, 07:20:38 PM
That was coming.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 02, 2012, 07:22:06 PM
Don't know what happened to Arse in that 2nd half? fine result for Chelsea,Spurs & if they win tomoro Liverpool.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on January 02, 2012, 07:26:38 PM
@ladyarse is quite funny:

"Pretty sure Arsenal know I've stopped smoking and are testing my resolve."
"You deserve that Arsenal for this second half performance because you have been SHIT."
"Well done Fulham. f**k you Arsenal."
"Ok, I've calmed down now, you can come back Arsenal, I forgive you."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 02, 2012, 07:27:18 PM
Talk about a team running out of steam. Depressing but saw it coming. The FA Cup break couldn't have been timed better.

Picked a bad day to detox.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2012, 07:28:41 PM
Sébastien Squillaci - why put him on?

Interesting if they had won they would have only been 6 points behind City, still the mental frailties are there and Djourou was only looking for it..

Lack of attacking full backs is killing Arsenal's attack, that and the finishing from Walcott and Gervinho... 

Fulham eh?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 02, 2012, 07:31:27 PM
Yes, bucking Squillaci. Arsenal had no outlet of pace when Wally and Gervinho went off. Should have kept those two hoors on and made them run themselves into the ground as they'll probably not play next weekend. B@stards.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Main Street on January 02, 2012, 07:36:50 PM
10 minutes of sublime football from Fulham was enough to get the goal against Chelsea. Arsenal were a tougher nut to crack in the 2nd half but the goalie was a soft spot for the first.
Jol has done well, Fulham are a joy to watch compared to Hodgson's Fulham. I like the look of Ruiz, their big signing this season.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 02, 2012, 07:39:51 PM
Really surprised at the quality of Fulham's football in the second. Arsenal couldn't get near them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 02, 2012, 07:42:58 PM
Arsenal didn't lie comfortably in 4th for too long.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on January 02, 2012, 07:43:11 PM
Ruiz looks good right enough.  Although he does try to chip the ball at every opportunity!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2012, 07:50:02 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 02, 2012, 07:42:58 PM
Arsenal didn't lie comfortably in 4th for too long.

When are you moving back to Laois or is it Wicklow?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Main Street on January 02, 2012, 07:53:53 PM
I didn't see where the foul was that got Djourou the second yellow.
Was there a foul?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2012, 07:56:04 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 02, 2012, 07:53:53 PM
I didn't see where the foul was that got Djourou the second yellow.
Was there a foul?

There was contact, slight but seemingly that's all that's needed in the hustle and bustle of the EPL.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 02, 2012, 08:01:40 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 02, 2012, 07:31:27 PM
Yes, bucking Squillaci. Arsenal had no outlet of pace when Wally and Gervinho went off. Should have kept those two hoors on and made them run themselves into the ground as they'll probably not play next weekend. B@stards.
According to TonyEvansTimes Walcott had a bug over Christmas and probably wasn't match fit but was asked to play regardless.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 02, 2012, 08:05:54 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2012, 07:50:02 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 02, 2012, 07:42:58 PM
Arsenal didn't lie comfortably in 4th for too long.

When are you moving back to Laois or is it Wicklow?
Eh? i never left the orchard county.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 02, 2012, 08:22:28 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 02, 2012, 07:36:50 PM
10 minutes of sublime football from Fulham was enough to get the goal against Chelsea. Arsenal were a tougher nut to crack in the 2nd half but the goalie was a soft spot for the first.
Jol has done well, Fulham are a joy to watch compared to Hodgson's Fulham. I like the look of Ruiz, their big signing this season.

Was thinking that myself. Dembele looks a very good player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 02, 2012, 08:38:58 PM
What would be the worst scenario -

Spurs finishing above Arsenal for the first time in 17 years
Sinead O'Connor arriving at your bedside with The Krankies telling you 'this might hurt'.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: onefaircounty on January 02, 2012, 08:43:53 PM
Happy with the result as a 'Pool fan, but that was a penalty.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 02, 2012, 08:48:57 PM
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h477/intermania71/arsen.gif)

Le Boss can't even find his pocket now...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 02, 2012, 08:58:09 PM
Very good! He's away to seek Pat's advice.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 03, 2012, 11:46:52 PM
(http://www.abload.de/img/wenger-guitarepa4d.gif)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ludermor on January 05, 2012, 12:03:24 PM

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/bendtner-arrested-after-hotel-brawl-2980600.htmlSunderland striker Nicklas Bendtner was arrested following an early morning brawl at a hotel, it emerged today.

The Danish 23-year-old was one of two men detained by police after the incident at the Hilton Newcastle Gateshead Hotel in the autumn.


A Northumbria Police spokesman said: "At 2.18am on Tuesday September 13, police received a report of a fight at the Hilton hotel in Gateshead.


"Officers attended and two men aged 23 were arrested to prevent a continued breach of the peace. After investigation, both men were released without a charge."


Bendtner, who is on loan from Arsenal, is on bail after being arrested on suspicion of criminal damage last month.


WTF is up with Bendtner?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 06, 2012, 11:53:25 PM
Enjoyed this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5DrdPrPpMU&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5DrdPrPpMU&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 06, 2012, 11:58:18 PM
V funny.

What odds can you get that Henry gets an injury during or after his first appearance and is ruled out for the rest of the contract? You know it'll happen.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 07, 2012, 12:03:45 AM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on January 06, 2012, 11:53:25 PM
Enjoyed this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5DrdPrPpMU&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5DrdPrPpMU&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

Mancini a big fan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B2mqZHSPw4E
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 07, 2012, 12:09:00 AM
Arsenal linked with move for Suarez.......



















.....Matias - plays for Anderlecht and sounds like an Wenger signing (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2083232/Arsenal-target-Matias-Suarez.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 07, 2012, 12:09:27 AM
Got to be some feeling for him when he arrives to play a game and drives past a statue of himself outside.  Always liked Henry (accept when he played for France), great signing for the Gooners.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 07, 2012, 12:15:28 AM
Was thinking about Larsson's stint at Utd around this time 5 years ago. He scored on his debut in the FA Cup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 07, 2012, 12:34:47 AM
If his last game is against Spurs, he has to score the winner.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on January 09, 2012, 07:14:43 PM
Szczesny, Coquelin, Koscielny, Squillaci, Miquel, Song, Arteta, Ramsey, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Arshavin, Chamakh.

subs: Martinez, Yennaris, Benayoun, Ryo, Walcott, Park, Henry.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Shamrock Shore on January 09, 2012, 07:50:34 PM
Any link lads to a live feed?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on January 09, 2012, 07:59:08 PM
http://www.firstrow.tv/watch/101227/1/watch-arsenal-vs-leeds-united.html (http://www.firstrow.tv/watch/101227/1/watch-arsenal-vs-leeds-united.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on January 09, 2012, 08:02:12 PM
i am watching it on espn and they are over a minute behind the internet links
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 09, 2012, 08:33:38 PM
45 minutes of Arsenal passing not much else to report.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: sammymaguire on January 09, 2012, 09:10:43 PM
The french hand of God just cantering on to the Emirates turf right now  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on January 09, 2012, 09:18:21 PM
Andy Townsend's son is taking rings round them!  COYS
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 09, 2012, 09:20:43 PM
Had to be !
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on January 09, 2012, 09:21:24 PM
Onion bag striker!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 09, 2012, 09:22:06 PM
It just had to be.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: sammymaguire on January 09, 2012, 09:22:59 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on January 09, 2012, 09:20:43 PM
Had to be OFFSIDE!!!

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 09, 2012, 09:32:02 PM
Henry is just pure class!  Delighted for him.  Scholesy should take note, that's the way to mark your return.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 09, 2012, 09:33:44 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on January 09, 2012, 09:32:02 PM
Henry is just pure class!  Delighted for him.  scholesy should take note, that's the way to mark your return.
Yeah mark his return with a win, oh wait...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 09, 2012, 09:35:19 PM
No Ross, Scholesy came on and gifted 10 man city a goal.  Henry has come on and scored the winner, big difference.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 09, 2012, 09:40:02 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on January 09, 2012, 09:35:19 PM
No Ross, Scholesy came on and gifted 10 man city a goal.  Henry has come on and scored the winner, big difference.
Gifted really? & many a 10 man team has won in the past including City http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/fa_cup/3447235.stm
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 09, 2012, 09:41:33 PM
Nice to see the King not making it all about him at the end   ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on January 09, 2012, 09:42:45 PM
When all's said and done, he's still a cheatin basterd!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 09, 2012, 09:46:13 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 09, 2012, 09:42:45 PM
When all's said and done, he's still a cheatin basterd!
And forever will be.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: SLIGONIAN on January 09, 2012, 09:57:11 PM
Gutted, honestly thought Ross was going to score his header, It was set up for Henry, poor defending by Zak, even if it was offside which i think theres fair claim to be, everyone was getting carried away with herny and the scriptwriters to care. Arsenal deserved to win, were better team but leeds heroicly hung on at stages and i was proud... mot.

PS my lecturer said to me totally out of context "your gonna get hammered tonight" in front of the class, i said "im staying in tonight" he said i mean leeds, i was wearing my leeds top, this lecturer is my law one and he was saying 10 mins before about rights, he "one has the right to walk down the street without being molested", he continued " it only happened me once in budapest" :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ziggysego on January 09, 2012, 10:09:11 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 09, 2012, 09:46:13 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 09, 2012, 09:42:45 PM
When all's said and done, he's still a cheatin basterd!
And forever will be.
And should never be forgotten.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 09, 2012, 10:23:56 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on January 09, 2012, 09:32:02 PM
Henry is just pure class!  Delighted for him. 

This. Good man Thierry!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Minder on January 09, 2012, 10:34:08 PM
Great to see.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on January 09, 2012, 10:48:51 PM
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/407256_2789880239068_1620232346_2529677_1122717281_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: trileacman on January 09, 2012, 10:54:23 PM
Quote from: gerry on January 09, 2012, 10:48:51 PM
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/407256_2789880239068_1620232346_2529677_1122717281_n.jpg)

You get the feeling they had that half written beforehand.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2012, 11:36:39 PM
Good start for the kid Thierry. If he keeps his head down and works hard he might make it. I thought he was a bit lost for pace and his tackling needs work but he has a few years on his side and hopefully will turn out to be a bit better than Chamakh. Walcott's a class act and playing alongside Theo can only work wonders for the Frenchman's career.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on January 09, 2012, 11:53:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 09, 2012, 11:36:39 PM
Good start for the kid Thierry. If he keeps his head down and works hard he might make it. I thought he was a bit lost for pace and his tackling needs work but he has a few years on his side and hopefully will turn out to be a bit better than Chamakh. Walcott's a class act and playing alongside Theo can only work wonders for the Frenchman's career.

Are you certain you are not from Mayo?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: BennyCake on January 10, 2012, 12:45:22 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on January 09, 2012, 10:09:11 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 09, 2012, 09:46:13 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 09, 2012, 09:42:45 PM
When all's said and done, he's still a cheatin basterd!
And forever will be.
And should never be forgotten.

Get over it, lads.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on January 10, 2012, 07:51:29 AM
Henry scores a gimme against probably the Championships worst defence (which was also ravaged by injury) and celebrates like he has just punched the winner in a world cup qualifier. Meanwhile the press nearly cream all over the back pages. I thought I was over it - but I'm not.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on January 10, 2012, 08:36:38 AM
Scholes hardly gifted City a goal, he played a poor pass that Evra didn't even attempt to win back and there was alot still to do to score.

On Henry, great scenes last night.  Not sure about his new look though, has he found god or something?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on January 10, 2012, 08:57:59 AM
Grayson needs to improve that back four or Leeds are stuck where they are for the forseeable future.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on January 10, 2012, 09:23:19 AM
Must sicken Arshavin to see Henry come back and make an impact like that, was talk of Barca looking for him a few years ago (Arshavin).  Currently I doubt if even Barnsley would be interested in him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: supersub on January 10, 2012, 09:30:56 AM
Quote from: BennyHarp on January 10, 2012, 07:51:29 AM
Henry scores a gimme against probably the Championships worst defence (which was also ravaged by injury) and celebrates like he has just punched the winner in a world cup qualifier. Meanwhile the press nearly cream all over the back pages. I thought I was over it - but I'm not.

I take it this is just being dramatic for effect. It was a brilliantly composed finish. Something which everyone but Van Persie is lacking in the current Arsenal team!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: bridgegael on January 10, 2012, 12:12:26 PM
cannot help but think henrys return will have a bad affect on van persies performance,  at the min vp is the main man, but now that henry is bac all attention will be on him.  henry is top dog again.   i could be talking bollocks too though. time will tell
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on January 10, 2012, 12:16:31 PM
Quote from: bridgegael on January 10, 2012, 12:12:26 PM
cannot help but think henrys return will have a bad affect on van persies performance,  at the min vp is the main man, but now that henry is bac all attention will be on him.  henry is top dog again.   i could be talking bollocks too though. time will tell

Funnily enough - i was thinking thinking this myself last night as I watched Henry strut around and milk the crowd for all it was worth. Van Persie has thrived under the pressure of being the top man and the undisputed crowd favourite since Henry and Fabregas left. I wonder will the change in dynamics that Henry brings impact on him. Probably not!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: fearbrags on January 10, 2012, 12:50:49 PM
Did Mr Henry use his hand last night????????
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: new devil on January 10, 2012, 01:08:01 PM
Great stuff....Henry is a legend of the game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 10, 2012, 02:11:43 PM
Got hand it to him I thought he handled the situation very well last night.

Any reservations I had dissipated with that goal, think he will be an immense influence over the next 2 months but this is The Arsenal so he will probably pick up an injury against Swansea..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on January 14, 2012, 10:30:43 PM
Martin O'Neil on Bendtner today "A blundering full-back from four leagues below could have put some of those in".
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 15, 2012, 12:36:57 AM
Sunderland will be wrecked tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 15, 2012, 07:05:01 AM
From BBC- Last Monday Thierry Henry scored his 12th goal In 12 games against Leeds with 12 mins remaining wearing the No.12 shirt In 2012.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on January 15, 2012, 08:59:43 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 15, 2012, 07:05:01 AM
From BBC- Last Monday Thierry Henry scored his 12th goal In 12 games against Leeds with 12 mins remaining wearing the No.12 shirt In 2012.
what about thierry henry who has 12 letters in his name. A glaring omission by the bbc . 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on January 15, 2012, 11:37:31 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 15, 2012, 07:05:01 AM
From BBC- Last Monday Thierry Henry scored his 12th goal In 12 games against Leeds with 12 mins remaining wearing the No.12 shirt In 2012.

But it was January?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 15, 2012, 05:18:37 PM
Swansea from 1-0 down are now 2-1 up
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 15, 2012, 05:21:37 PM
Swansea are really nice team. Giving Arsenal a bit of a run around here. Arsenal struggling to get the ball off them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: tyroneman on January 15, 2012, 05:24:43 PM
While I don't support them I do have a soft spot for Arsenal but fcuk me they are muck this year.  If Wenger has no money due to debt repayments or whatever then fair enought but if he is refusing to spend the serious questions need asked. Having said that how much did he spend on Arteta ( b list) and the 3 donkeys: Gervinho, Mert and Santos. A colossal waste of money.

And Walcott....................
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 15, 2012, 05:29:46 PM
Some game this, 2-2 and now 3-2 Swansea.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: everymanaman on January 15, 2012, 05:59:32 PM
Arsenal outgunned by the Welsh Barcelona
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 15, 2012, 06:15:46 PM
Only saw the last 20 mins and in that 20 mins Ramsey must have given the ball away 20 times. He needs a rest as his form is very very poor, didn't see that rest but the stats show Arsenal were poor at keeping possession which has been their downfall this season, Arteta was a big loss. Need to stay on the tails of Chelsea if they are to have chance of top four, from looking comfortable to looking vulnerable in 2 games. The keyboard warriors will be happy as they move back into Arsenal in crisis mode but might only be temporary if City lose tomorrow night....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 15, 2012, 06:24:52 PM
Only saw the second half too. Arsenal fairly paying the price for having no bench. Song, Ramsey and RVP are running on empty. Walcott and Arshavin are healthily competing for the worst player of the year. Rosicky came on and looked lively amongst that lot - shows how much the Arsenal midfield are spiralling downwards. Mertesecker - Jaysus that was some miss. Arsenal haven't played well for a month now and the Utd game next week could make or break the season. Hopefully the 8-2 is still hurting, though I wouldn't bank on it. Arsenal need Vermaelen next week.

Nice football Swansea although Arsenal made Fulham look that good too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on January 15, 2012, 06:41:49 PM
#tears4Piers trending on twitter.  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: under the bar on January 15, 2012, 08:23:03 PM
Other than van Persie did any Arsenal player today deserve their wages?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on January 15, 2012, 08:49:07 PM
I can't say you missed much in the first 45 minutes.  Ramsey getting death treats on twitter tonight.  Nothing beats getting beat to see who the real fans are
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on January 15, 2012, 09:02:42 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on January 15, 2012, 09:05:26 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on January 15, 2012, 09:45:30 PM
Quality post Gerry. Good to see you're not influenced by the soccer yob mentality!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 15, 2012, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on January 15, 2012, 09:45:30 PM
Quality post Gerry. Good to see you're not influenced by the soccer yob mentality!

Is Gerry not just highlighting how the world is full of stupid people and the poor performance of a footballer can lead to idiotic nonsense like above?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Minder on January 15, 2012, 10:11:25 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 15, 2012, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on January 15, 2012, 09:45:30 PM
Quality post Gerry. Good to see you're not influenced by the soccer yob mentality!

Is Gerry not just highlighting how the world is full of stupid people and the poor performance of a footballer can lead to idiotic nonsense like above?

Yeah, I don't know how you could read it any other way.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 15, 2012, 10:48:18 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 15, 2012, 10:11:25 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 15, 2012, 10:09:43 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on January 15, 2012, 09:45:30 PM
Quality post Gerry. Good to see you're not influenced by the soccer yob mentality!

Is Gerry not just highlighting how the world is full of stupid people and the poor performance of a footballer can lead to idiotic nonsense like above?

Yeah, I don't know how you could read it any other way.

Surely there is plenty in those Twitter posts that athe police can act on. Sad stuff.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: CorkMan on January 20, 2012, 06:51:53 PM
That tweet about Gary Speed was way out of line.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 22, 2012, 05:58:53 PM
Wenger will take some heat for this one! Arshavin seems to be well liked!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 22, 2012, 06:03:13 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on January 22, 2012, 05:58:53 PM
Wenger will take some heat for this one! Arshavin seems to be well liked!

Completely changed the game that substitution. Arsenal were on top before it and went to shite almost immediately after. Fastest Arse Shavings moved all day was to run off the pitch at the final whistle.

Some amount of diving in that game too. Rooney spent more time chucking himself to the ground that standing upright.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 22, 2012, 06:14:38 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on January 22, 2012, 06:03:13 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on January 22, 2012, 05:58:53 PM
Wenger will take some heat for this one! Arshavin seems to be well liked!

Completely changed the game that substitution. Arsenal were on top before it and went to shite almost immediately after. Fastest Arse Shavings moved all day was to run off the pitch at the final whistle.

Some amount of diving in that game too. Rooney spent more time chucking himself to the ground that standing upright.
I guess we'll turn a blind eye to the lumps kicked out of Rooney not a surprise to see him picking up a injury.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 22, 2012, 08:18:16 PM
Probably deserved a draw from that game but the absence of full backs is killing the Arsenal. Won't qualify for UCL unless they win it...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: whitegoodman on January 22, 2012, 08:27:37 PM
Thought Arsenal played well for the majority of that game but same old failings keep costing them, why they didnt go for Cahill instead of the slow german is beyond me.

Arsenals first 11 is a match for most but as said the missing FBs and Wilkshire is costing them dearly.

Im not an avid Arsenal follower but that is the first time Ive seen Wenger getting booed when taking a player off. Maybe some how watch them more than me can confirm that??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 22, 2012, 08:46:13 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 22, 2012, 08:18:16 PM
Probably deserved a draw from that game but the absence of full backs is killing the Arsenal. Won't qualify for UCL unless they win it...
Got what they deserved, apart from 15 minute period in the 2nd half Arsenal were poor today. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: CorkMan on January 22, 2012, 08:59:24 PM
Major plus from that game was Ox-Chamberlains performance. He was our best player. Miles better than Walcott.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 22, 2012, 09:38:46 PM
Quote from: CorkMan on January 22, 2012, 08:59:24 PM
Major plus from that game was Ox-Chamberlains performance. He was our best player. Miles better than Walcott.
Watching him today he's a similar talent to Ravel Morrison but one 18 year old is given a chance to impress while the other (with in house problems) is held back.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 28, 2012, 09:27:05 AM
Wilshere possibly out til next season.

Balls to that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on January 29, 2012, 03:47:04 PM
 Fabianski, Coquelin, Koscielny, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ramsey, Song, Rosicky, Walcott, van Persie

Subs: Szczesny, Sagna, Arteta, Park, Henry, Arshavin, Benayoun.

And we get sunderland or m'borough  If we pass villa today
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 29, 2012, 04:51:00 PM
Bad half for the Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 29, 2012, 04:55:38 PM
Keano having some game!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: tyroneman on January 29, 2012, 04:59:15 PM
Were there not rumours around months ago that JW would be out for season at least and maybe lucky to play again?

Time for Wenger to go. So many of his buys not up to scratch and a complete refusal to fix problems that have been evident for years now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 29, 2012, 05:15:05 PM
How does dunne not get a second yellow there??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 29, 2012, 05:22:16 PM
Aston Villa have imploded in this second half.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on January 29, 2012, 07:00:35 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 29, 2012, 05:22:16 PM
Aston Villa have imploded in this second half.

Sure did you must have to play for Ireland or be an ex spurs player to make the Villa team these days
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 29, 2012, 07:39:52 PM
More like it from the Arse in the 2nd half, Villa just couldn't live with Arsenal in the first 15 mins of that half, good response to the defensive shambles of the first.

Good to see Sagna back too..

Hopefully that will kick start the the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on January 29, 2012, 08:19:28 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on January 29, 2012, 07:00:35 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 29, 2012, 05:22:16 PM
Aston Villa have imploded in this second half.

Sure did you must have to play for Ireland or be an ex spurs player to make the Villa team these days

...............and ex-Man City!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 29, 2012, 10:02:32 PM
A really terrible performance in the first half. They cannot defend high or low. Fabianski's short releases were crippling the side. Hopefully Sagna's return will help to shore it up somehow.

For the first 20 minutes of the second half they finally started to use both wingers and pummelled Villa whose full backs are very limited. Rosicky finally realised he can enter the opponent's penalty box.

How poor was Henry when he came on? Couldn't do a thing right for the 4 minutes he waddled about.

The pressure on Wenger would have been immense had they lost that. A bit of a reprieve. They need to start where they left off this Wednesday away at Bolton.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on February 01, 2012, 07:14:18 PM
Szczesny, Sagna, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Vermaelen, Arteta, Ramsey, Song, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Van Persie

Subs: Fabianski, Rosicky, Park, Henry, Arshavin, Benayoun, Coq

link
(http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/31162/3/bolton-wanderers-vs-arsenal-live-stream-online.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on February 01, 2012, 08:51:51 PM
started well but slipped away near the end.  we need another wenger pek talk
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2012, 10:08:54 PM
Good old Arsenal, create chances miss chances, create and miss more chances, hit woodwork, allow opposition come into game and then finish up hanging on for dear life, should have been a penalty for Bolton at the end too..

Can't say Arsenal games are boring that's for sure...

Liverpool now look like getting the run going that could seal 4th spot...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 01, 2012, 10:22:03 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2012, 10:08:54 PM
Good old Arsenal, create chances miss chances, create and miss more chances, hit woodwork, allow opposition come into game and then finish up hanging on for dear life, should have been a penalty for Bolton at the end too..

Can't say Arsenal games are boring that's for sure...

Liverpool now look like getting the run going that could seal 4th spot...

Fruits, Dinny.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: EC Unique on February 01, 2012, 10:58:15 PM
Who is favourite to replace wenger?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 01, 2012, 11:38:30 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 01, 2012, 10:58:15 PM
Who is favourite to replace wenger?

Dunno but he'd need to be good. When he crapped over Ferguson's managerial career by going the season unbeaten he set one helluva precedent.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 01, 2012, 11:43:46 PM
Serious question for more in the know gunners - Does Arsene have many bad games left in him from a stand point of not being let go? Will he be let go in the off season?

37 points and a goal difference of 6 at the start of February. It's depressing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 02, 2012, 09:25:23 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on February 01, 2012, 11:43:46 PM
Serious question for more in the know gunners - Does Arsene have many bad games left in him from a stand point of not being let go? Will he be let go in the off season?

37 points and a goal difference of 6 at the start of February. It's depressing.

Arsenal did well to recover from the bad start, injuries then kicked in and Arsenal don't have the strength in dept anymore hence the current bad run, although I don't think any team could lose 4 full backs, they will come out of it but it has been probably fatal to any top 4 hopes, I think it's only 1 point out of 12. Arsenal are sensibly run so I'll imagine Wenger will get the choice in May.

If he decides to move up stairs who they appoint will be interesting. I'd like someone like Pep Guardiola, he seems to me to be not to be enjoying his season with Barca, Mourhino has that affect, and he was mentored by Wenger and did some of his UEFA badges at Arsenal but money to supplement his squad at Barca was never an issue. Jurgen Klopp as well would be interesting, coming from the German model he would work well under Arsenal's fiscal constraints, if they were looking for more experience maybe Felix McGath (sp) would be one to look to.

It will all be idle speculation regardless, it would be fun if we could just confine it to the adults....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on February 02, 2012, 09:43:33 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 02, 2012, 09:25:23 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on February 01, 2012, 11:43:46 PM
Serious question for more in the know gunners - Does Arsene have many bad games left in him from a stand point of not being let go? Will he be let go in the off season?

37 points and a goal difference of 6 at the start of February. It's depressing.

Arsenal did well to recover from the bad start, injuries then kicked in and Arsenal don't have the strength in dept anymore hence the current bad run, although I don't think any team could lose 4 full backs, they will come out of it but it has been probably fatal to any top 4 hopes, I think it's only 1 point out of 12. Arsenal are sensibly run so I'll imagine Wenger will get the choice in May.

If he decides to move up stairs who they appoint will be interesting. I'd like someone like Pep Guardiola, he seems to me to be not to be enjoying his season with Barca, Mourhino has that affect, and he was mentored by Wenger and did some of his UEFA badges at Arsenal but money to supplement his squad at Barca was never an issue. Jurgen Klopp as well would be interesting, coming from the German model he would work well under Arsenal's fiscal constraints, if they were looking for more experience maybe Felix McGath (sp) would be one to look to.

It will all be idle speculation regardless, it would be fun if we could just confine it to the adults....

Alexander The Great wunker  McCleish?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on February 02, 2012, 09:45:08 AM
QuoteFelix McGath

I thought you were going to make a McGrath out of him for a minute.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 02, 2012, 09:49:54 AM
Jose Mourinho is rumoured to be leaving Madrid. Would he fit in at Arsenal? I can't see the fans there liking that too much, although it would be a throwback to George Graham's style a bit, which was successful too.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 02, 2012, 09:53:39 AM
Great manager but could never see him at Arsenal personally but he has shown that he can work on fiscal prudence and his style of play is only important when you are not winning.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ballinaman on February 02, 2012, 10:19:44 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 02, 2012, 09:49:54 AM
Jose Mourinho is rumoured to be leaving Madrid. Would he fit in at Arsenal? I can't see the fans there liking that too much, although it would be a throwback to George Graham's style a bit, which was successful too.
I think its a great shout. Mourinho said he wants back in the premiership for a prolonged time, likes London, will be given time at Arsenal...Wenger could be shown the door this summer. Swap to Real Madrid isn't beyond the realms of possibility either.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: paco on February 02, 2012, 10:42:14 AM
Can't see either of those scenarios taking place. Rafa Benitez is the favourite to take over in Madrid, and for Mourinho's last 2 jobs, he's basically been able to spend as much as he want (definitely more than rival teams in the league), and this won't be the case at Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: under the bar on February 02, 2012, 11:06:19 AM
Unfortunately Arsenal, not really being considered a 'big' club, will be quite restricted in terms of who they can attract.     If recruiting from outside of the EPL they are unlikely to land a big name, probably an unknown like Wenger himself when he arrived.    I believe the manager of Matsumoto Yamaga F.C., who has a good reputation of working within a limited budget, is in the frame.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 02, 2012, 11:14:59 AM
Arsenal are a huge club for God's sake. Financially sound, big fan base, successful history. Arsenal would be a great job for a big manager.

Ah. I should have read to the end of your post before replying. "I believe the manager of Matsumoto Yamaga F.C., who has a good reputation of working within a limited budget, is in the frame." Sorry.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on February 02, 2012, 11:44:52 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 02, 2012, 11:14:59 AM
Arsenal are a huge club for God's sake. Financially sound, big fan base, successful history. Arsenal would be a great job for a big manager.

Ah. I should have read to the end of your post before replying. "I believe the manager of Matsumoto Yamaga F.C., who has a good reputation of working within a limited budget, is in the frame." Sorry.

He should be made Minister for Finance.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2012, 11:45:43 AM
I think Wenger will take a clean break if he goes (or is advised to go). He's very much his own man and I just cannot imagine him overseeing someone's footballing philosophy that's different to his.

There has to be something regarding the financial restrictions that we're not aware of, especially since the new stadium was built. How he can build a team with Pires, Henry, Ljungberg, Lauren, Campbell, Toure, Vieira etc and then attempt to rebuild with the quality Bendtner, Denilson, Eboue, Vela, Diaby and all the crap at the back (albeit with Fabregas, Nasri, RVP). The year Hleb and Flamini were flying they went close and maybe if they'd lasted the course things would be different. The project failed though and this is what we're left with - a 5th-7th placed team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 02, 2012, 12:18:02 PM
Will Arsenal be the best placed club in Britain when the Financial constaint rules from FIFA come into force?  Next year isn't it?

I supposes there will be ways around it though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 02, 2012, 05:12:54 PM
Quote from: paco on February 02, 2012, 10:42:14 AM
Can't see either of those scenarios taking place. Rafa Benitez is the favourite to take over in Madrid, and for Mourinho's last 2 jobs, he's basically been able to spend as much as he want (definitely more than rival teams in the league), and this won't be the case at Arsenal.

Are Madrid going to make the same mistake as Inter Milan? To get Mourinho you need loads of money to pay his wages & open check book for transfers so only City a return to Chelsea or maybe John Henry can afford him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on February 04, 2012, 06:44:19 AM
Don't forget ur bin bag today
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: paco on February 04, 2012, 02:41:30 PM
RVP as captain in Fantasy Football, never fails!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: carnaross on February 04, 2012, 02:58:01 PM
Hat trick and two assists (plus 3 bonus pts to come?)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gawa316 on February 04, 2012, 03:00:13 PM
Quote from: paco on February 04, 2012, 02:41:30 PM
RVP as captain in Fantasy Football, never fails!

Snap plus I had Arteta as well
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: paco on February 04, 2012, 03:19:32 PM
20 points so far and I assume he'll get a few more bonus points. Ox seems to be playing some stuff as well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gawa316 on February 04, 2012, 03:24:16 PM
Quote from: paco on February 04, 2012, 03:19:32 PM
20 points so far and I assume he'll get a few more bonus points.

I'm on the skysports one and he has 46 points!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 05, 2012, 11:18:30 PM
The two games I've missed this year - Chelsea 3 Arsenal 5 and Arsenal 7 Blackburn 1.

Good results this weekend. Within striking distance of 4th.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Orangemac on February 05, 2012, 11:28:58 PM
Big test for the Gunners at Sunderland next week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 05, 2012, 11:34:09 PM
Quote from: Orangemac on February 05, 2012, 11:28:58 PM
Big test for the Gunners at Sunderland next week.

100%. Sunderland are top of the 'last 6 games' table.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 06, 2012, 12:31:28 AM
Hiring Rafa would be the second dumbest move in RMs impressive history of dumb moves.

The first being sacking VdB
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 08, 2012, 10:01:23 PM
A good 120 minutes should keep the Sunderland legs in good shape for the weekend.

Do we want them to win or lose?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2012, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 08, 2012, 10:01:23 PM
A good 120 minutes should keep the Sunderland legs in good shape for the weekend.

Do we want them to win or lose?
Doesn't Arsenal play the winner of this tie in the next round?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 08, 2012, 10:04:29 PM
They do.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 11, 2012, 03:50:30 PM
Boring enough game. No chances for either side. Sunderland are a hard-working group. Van Persie has three defenders on him any time he touches it. Crap pitch. Rosicky playing well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on February 11, 2012, 04:27:31 PM
would settle for one of those 7 goals from last week
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on February 11, 2012, 04:28:58 PM
it gets no easier
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 11, 2012, 04:31:21 PM
Jaysus that was real bad luck. Mertesecker crumbled with injury with no one near him and McClean takes the ball, knocks her in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 11, 2012, 04:33:05 PM
Can Martin O'Neills team hold Van Persie FC scoreless? i guess not.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 11, 2012, 04:33:40 PM
No.

1-1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on February 11, 2012, 04:34:33 PM
hardly goal of the season, but we will take it
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 11, 2012, 04:34:48 PM
Some sorta karma there. Ramsey came on for the stretchered off German - and scored within 2 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 11, 2012, 04:51:49 PM
MAN-LOVE.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 11, 2012, 04:54:19 PM
The King leaves a parting gift. What a man.

http://youtu.be/SsqzjHEsPLU
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 11, 2012, 04:55:16 PM
Much bigger goal than the one v Leeds. 4th place again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 11, 2012, 04:55:32 PM
Love him...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on February 11, 2012, 04:57:29 PM
good weekend with the other results going our way
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Orangemac on February 11, 2012, 11:53:08 PM
Henry will get the plaudits but it was a great ball in from the unloved Arshavin.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 15, 2012, 06:47:42 PM
I know that Milan were worried about Arsenal's width but they appear to have addressed that problem:

http://yfrog.com/occ7jlzj
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 15, 2012, 06:50:13 PM
Szczesny,
Sagna, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Gibbs,
Song, Arteta, Rosicky, Walcott, Ramsey,
Van Persie.

Arsenal subs: Fabianski - Djourou - Benayoun - Coquelin - Henry - Oxlade-Chamberlain - Arshavin
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 15, 2012, 07:41:57 PM
AC Milan: Abbiati, Abate, Mexes, Thiago Silva, Antonini, Seedorf, Van Bommel, Nocerino, Boateng, Ibrahimovic, Robinho. Subs: Amelia, Alexandre Pato, Nesta, Ambrosini, Bonera, Emanuelson, El Shaarawi

Silva top defender some old heads in midfield and the unpredictable Ibrahimovic,Robinho.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on February 15, 2012, 07:54:59 PM
the pitch looks poor down the sides alright
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 15, 2012, 08:03:52 PM
Milan 1 up fine strike.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on February 15, 2012, 08:06:01 PM
some goal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 15, 2012, 08:24:20 PM
Walcott needs a visit from the Balls Fairy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on February 15, 2012, 08:25:37 PM
gunners up against it now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 15, 2012, 08:27:13 PM
Looking all too easy for Milan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 15, 2012, 08:29:36 PM
Clueless and gutless. Everyone hoping for the other to take responsibility.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 15, 2012, 08:33:01 PM
Feck this is frustrating. No balls. Winning no 1-on-1s, they'd rather pass back to the keeper when they actually have it. Fruity display. Gibbs having a mare.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2012, 08:43:15 PM
Better being in it than not, Utd and City are playing in the crap cup
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 15, 2012, 08:49:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2012, 08:43:15 PM
Better being in it than not, Utd and City are playing in the crap cup

They were in it and weren't good enough and shouldn't be allowed to play in another cup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 15, 2012, 08:56:19 PM
Robinho in the mood tonight 3-0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 15, 2012, 08:57:13 PM
Oh deary me.

Henry should've jumped on the plane on Sunday night.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 15, 2012, 09:25:32 PM
4-0 bring out the fat lady.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 15, 2012, 09:25:45 PM
Embarrassing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2012, 09:30:14 PM
You'd be better of watching One born every minute on Ch 4!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Lecale2 on February 15, 2012, 09:31:53 PM
Milan were 11/10 to win tonight. A gift.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 15, 2012, 09:34:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 15, 2012, 09:30:14 PM
You'd be better of watching One born every minute on Ch 4!!

this could have been a sequel  One Goal Every Minute! It was that bad..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 15, 2012, 09:37:33 PM
Top two in England knocked out in the group stages and now 4th place Arsenal trounced premier league overrated,overhyped much?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on February 15, 2012, 10:03:30 PM
Just the four?

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/11/1/1225577025606/Harry-Redknapp-002.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 15, 2012, 10:19:41 PM
Interesting to see if the same pattern that has formed in recent years occurs again. Arsenal have a habit of exiting every competition in the space of 10 days or so.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: screenexile on February 16, 2012, 12:21:16 AM
Arsenal's next European game reminds me of Heather Mills.

The second leg is just for show!!! lolololol
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: AQMP on February 16, 2012, 09:21:26 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/14/arsene-wenger-arsenal-chelsea-champions-league

"Arsène Wenger believes that Arsenal can make a statement of intent against Milan in the Champions League which could in turn raise the temperature at their Premier League rivals Chelsea"

24 hours is a long time in football :-\

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 16, 2012, 10:59:15 AM
That was worse Arsenal performance I can remember under Wenger, worse than the 8-2 because there was mitigating circumstances around that. There was a complete abdication of responsibility and leadership, something is not right at the core of Arsenal, can't put my finger on it but with no money I'll be shocked if Wenger is in charge next August, too many things are going against him and I would question whether he has senior player support anymore.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: screenexile on February 16, 2012, 11:20:49 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 16, 2012, 10:59:15 AM
That was worse Arsenal performance I can remember under Wenger, worse than the 8-2 because there was mitigating circumstances around that. There was a complete abdication of responsibility and leadership, something is not right at the core of Arsenal, can't put my finger on it but with no money I'll be shocked if Wenger is in charge next August, too many things are going against him and I would question whether he has senior player support anymore.

I think that the problem is none of Arsenal's Senior players stand up. Bar Van Persie and possibly Koscielny (who can be a liability) none of the Senior players showed up last night. Back 4 bar Koscielny were woeful. Song, Ramsey, Arteta, Rosicky, Walcott were brutal.

This young team thing doesn't wash anymore either. Arsenal had 7 players on last night over the age of 25!! Something needs done or Arsenal will be on a slippery slope!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 16, 2012, 11:34:08 AM
Arsenal have been on a slippery slope since they moved to Ashburton, just happens to be getting steeper.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 18, 2012, 06:32:43 PM
Arsenal must be the biggest pack of pansies going. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on February 18, 2012, 06:36:09 PM
not looking god
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 18, 2012, 06:38:46 PM
Keane in gloves shocker.

http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/51874774.jpg?x=x&dasite=GettyImages&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=AB27D0502010942142FA577A88D8E25A94F167D85D3E7FDB50D699D05FF621AA
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on February 18, 2012, 06:43:09 PM
Feel sorry for Wenger, days could be numbered if they cant pull something from this last 20 mins. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 18, 2012, 06:58:38 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on February 18, 2012, 06:43:09 PM
Feel sorry for Wenger, days could be numbered if they cant pull something from this last 20 mins.

He assembled this shit team
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 18, 2012, 07:04:00 PM
Didn't get to watch the Milan game but this is woeful. Not a drop of fight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: EC Unique on February 18, 2012, 07:04:50 PM
Very bad week for the gunners. Well done to MON and Sunderland. They will be my adopted team in the FA cup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: The Worker on February 18, 2012, 07:11:55 PM
Martin O'Neill in the wrong dug out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 18, 2012, 07:13:36 PM
Wenger out! Smileys working now  :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 18, 2012, 07:22:01 PM
(http://www.outofur.com/upload/2010/06/rome_thumbs_down.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 18, 2012, 07:30:30 PM
How many years has that happened now? Out of every competition in the space of a few days. At least in the past we'd console ourselves that Arsenal play the prettiest football. Now it's dung. DUNG. DUNG. DUNG. DUNG.

Spurs in 8 days. Jaysus.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 18, 2012, 08:04:09 PM
Wenger has been great for Arsenal (at least for the first half of his time there) but they are hardly going to give him another 2 to 3 years to build a new team are they? It's a fairly big rebuilding job considering Van Persie (who will be 29 in August) will probably want out in the Summer. Time is running out for him to want to go out and win stuff.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 18, 2012, 10:22:08 PM
Yet another trophyless season for the gooners.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: sammymaguire on February 18, 2012, 10:24:57 PM
Spend some money £££££££££££££ Arsenal

Selling club now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 18, 2012, 10:39:28 PM
the boys on ITV were talking a bit of smack on about injury crises and losing fabregas and nasri and then having to rush out to buy lads.
for starters a lot of the top teams have struggled with injuries but aresenal just have no strength in depth especially at the back.like utd had to play carrick at CB and valencia a few times at RB.
also jesus like its not like fabregas goin wasnt on the cards for so long that he could have bought players. and then when he does buy lads it's always the same type who is tidy on the ball but with no edge. benayoun, gervinho, the south korean guy?, etc.
my mate is a gooner and he always points to the fact that wenger built on the foundations of graham and he has never rebuilt a proper defence since.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 18, 2012, 11:30:45 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on February 18, 2012, 10:39:28 PM

my mate is a gooner and he always points to the fact that wenger built on the foundations of graham and he has never rebuilt a proper defence since.

The Wenger '04 defence of Lauren - Campbell - Toure - Cole was possibly their best ever and not a patch of Graham on it. Conceded 26 goals in 38 games and went through the season unbeaten. There's something else amiss. He knows how to build a team that can win things.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Orangemac on February 19, 2012, 09:55:15 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 18, 2012, 11:30:45 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on February 18, 2012, 10:39:28 PM

my mate is a gooner and he always points to the fact that wenger built on the foundations of graham and he has never rebuilt a proper defence since.

The Wenger '04 defence of Lauren - Campbell - Toure - Cole was possibly their best ever and not a patch of Graham on it. Conceded 26 goals in 38 games and went through the season unbeaten. There's something else amiss. He knows how to build a team that can win things.
Unfortunately I doubt Wenger is going to get the 2/3 years he will need to rebuild another team.

Anyone see the Piers Morgan V Frimpong scrap on Twitter last night. Morgan is one irritating twat.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 19, 2012, 10:27:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 18, 2012, 11:30:45 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on February 18, 2012, 10:39:28 PM

my mate is a gooner and he always points to the fact that wenger built on the foundations of graham and he has never rebuilt a proper defence since.

The Wenger '04 defence of Lauren - Campbell - Toure - Cole was possibly their best ever and not a patch of Graham on it. Conceded 26 goals in 38 games and went through the season unbeaten. There's something else amiss. He knows how to build a team that can win things.

Arsenal are stuck in a cycle - something has to change, maybe the manager certainly plenty of players have to leave - but there is something wrong with the culture of the club. Nobody likes losing but the last 2 displays have been pretty gutless...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 19, 2012, 10:32:13 AM
What has caused this? When Brian Clough's judgement was shot his alcoholism was a possible excuse. Is it the Dein factor with Arsene? His ability to spot a Ljungberg, Pires or Henry seems to have left him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 19, 2012, 10:48:05 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 19, 2012, 10:32:13 AM
What has caused this? When Brian Clough's judgement was shot his alcoholism was a possible excuse. Is it the Dein factor with Arsene? His ability to spot a Ljungberg, Pires or Henry seems to have left him.

Many put forward that theory, has merit I think, he left in 2007 and it is certainly a factor in the decline along with the stadium debt, the billions at City and Chelsea, the rise of Barca, Wenger's failings as a coach and the failure of certain players to deliver...

It's frustrating watching from the outside, there seems to be a clear lack of leadership at Arsenal from the pitch to the boardroom, Wenger has now endured the longest period an Arsenal manager has ever gone without winning a trophy, still a bit short of the 18 years without a trophy between 53 and 70 mind. In the current climate it's hard to see Wenger been in charge come August, for his own sanity he probably should move on..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: screenexile on February 19, 2012, 10:53:13 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 19, 2012, 10:48:05 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 19, 2012, 10:32:13 AM
What has caused this? When Brian Clough's judgement was shot his alcoholism was a possible excuse. Is it the Dein factor with Arsene? His ability to spot a Ljungberg, Pires or Henry seems to have left him.

Many put forward that theory, has merit I think, he left in 2007 and it is certainly a factor in the decline along with the stadium debt, the billions at City and Chelsea, the rise of Barca, Wenger's failings as a coach and the failure of certain players to deliver...

It's frustrating watching from the outside, there seems to be a clear lack of leadership at Arsenal from the pitch to the boardroom, Wenger has now endured the longest period an Arsenal manager has ever gone without winning a trophy, still a bit short of the 18 years without a trophy between 53 and 70 mind. In the current climate it's hard to see Wenger been in charge come August, for his own sanity he probably should move on..

José then in a look back to the Graham days  built on consitency rather than flair?!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 19, 2012, 11:04:33 AM
Quote from: screenexile on February 19, 2012, 10:53:13 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 19, 2012, 10:48:05 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 19, 2012, 10:32:13 AM
What has caused this? When Brian Clough's judgement was shot his alcoholism was a possible excuse. Is it the Dein factor with Arsene? His ability to spot a Ljungberg, Pires or Henry seems to have left him.

Many put forward that theory, has merit I think, he left in 2007 and it is certainly a factor in the decline along with the stadium debt, the billions at City and Chelsea, the rise of Barca, Wenger's failings as a coach and the failure of certain players to deliver...

It's frustrating watching from the outside, there seems to be a clear lack of leadership at Arsenal from the pitch to the boardroom, Wenger has now endured the longest period an Arsenal manager has ever gone without winning a trophy, still a bit short of the 18 years without a trophy between 53 and 70 mind. In the current climate it's hard to see Wenger been in charge come August, for his own sanity he probably should move on..

José then in a look back to the Graham days  built on consitency rather than flair?!!

A valid point, when you look at Man United after they were hammered by City, Ferguson went all defensive, they grounded out a ridiculous amount of 1-0 victories and confidence was restored and the flair is returning, Wenger use to do that a bit,  most memorable on the way to the 2006 UCL final. He hasn't since as his philosophy seem to take control and pragmatism went out the window.

Mourhino is not an Arsenal type manager, the board would never accept him..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Scarlet on February 19, 2012, 01:34:35 PM
Jaysus my mate isnt much of a fan so. and i just agreed. he must be just a stubborn hoor. like everyone says he is an intelligent man but for the last five years everyone knew they needed a powerhouse CM player, keeper and CB.
feck me like they could have bought cahill umpteen times.
bergkamp was saying they have too many similar players and then you hear they are after another creative midfielder in the form of hazard. they have enough of his type already.
although the worst thing i always found about aresenal in recent years is they come across as moany holes. like when chelsea came on the scene i remember utd tried to bully them and were kicked back. arsenal need some bite.
if spurs do a job on them wenger is in big trouble.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 19, 2012, 04:16:45 PM
There's an interesting transfer table here,  from 2003-2011.

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/2003-2011.html (http://www.transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/2003-2011.html)

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on February 19, 2012, 06:02:42 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 19, 2012, 04:16:45 PM
There's an interesting transfer table here,  from 2003-2011.

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/2003-2011.html (http://www.transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/2003-2011.html)

Interesting reading, but stats like this can often lie. Since the emergence of Bosman and players allowed to move on a free, transfer fees go away from the clubs and into the pockets of the players. You may get a player for 'Free', but you could end p paying million extra in wages.

The footnote to all this is that Arsenal usually don't follow this model!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Evil Genius on February 19, 2012, 06:21:53 PM
Any Arsenal fans want two spare tickets for their End-of-Season party which I've just been offered?

I can't use them myself because I've already got a prior engagement for tomorrow...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on February 19, 2012, 06:25:42 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on February 19, 2012, 06:21:53 PM
Any Arsenal fans want two spare tickets for their End-of-Season party which I've just been offered?

I can't use them myself because I've already got a prior engagement for tomorrow...

A Rangers Wind Up?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 20, 2012, 01:03:06 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 19, 2012, 06:02:42 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 19, 2012, 04:16:45 PM
There's an interesting transfer table here,  from 2003-2011.

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/2003-2011.html (http://www.transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/2003-2011.html)

Interesting reading, but stats like this can often lie. Since the emergence of Bosman and players allowed to move on a free, transfer fees go away from the clubs and into the pockets of the players. You may get a player for 'Free', but you could end p paying million extra in wages.

The footnote to all this is that Arsenal usually don't follow this model!
Of course there are many things to consider. Free signings are listed in the team transfer details.
Wage bill and income are other matters.
If you see the table since 2006 -11,  http://www.transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/2006-2011.html (http://www.transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/2006-2011.html)
Arsenal  have spent less than most teams in the EPL and in the last 3 years have hemorrhaged talent.
However, spending for this season hit the roof,  Gervinho, Arteta, Santos, Mertesacker, Chamberlain and a few others.
What Wenger has achieved at Arsenal is proven way beyond doubt. But Arsenal FC are asking him to keep performing miracles in the transfer market year after year.
Sign 6 or 7 players and have them up to Arsenal speed in a few months.
No top 4 (or even a top 6 manager) can be expected to do that year after year, make a profit for the club on transfer fees at the same time and remain competitive for a top 4 place. It is inevitable there will be a slide.





Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 21, 2012, 10:09:55 PM
Arsène Wenger has only £55 million to spend this summer to strengthen Arsenal's underperforming squad

Arsène Wenger will have only £55 million with which to reconstruct his Arsenal squad in the close season, and much less if they fail to qualify for the next Champions League campaign.


That is the message from Arsenal's small shareholders, who shed light on the financial constraints Wenger must operate under as he strains to guide his team into the top four.
The north London club declared in their accounts last November that their cash reserves stood at £160 million. Although this might suggest they are thriving, much of those funds were spoken for before the season.
A detailed breakdown by the Arsenal Supporters' Trust (AST) ahead of the football club's release of interim accounts later this week reveals that about two-thirds of what the club holds at the bank is to meet unavoidable costs.
Prepaid season-ticket money accounts for £65 million but disappears over the course of the season as Arsenal service their £125 million-plus player-wage bill.
Tax demands drain another £13 million. A further £36 million is ring-fenced to repay future debts on the Emirates Stadium and to pay operating costs on ongoing property developments near the ground.

The departures of Cesc Fábregas, Gaël Clichy, Samir Nasri and others produced net summer transfer income of about £4 million after Mikel Arteta, Gervinho and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain were brought in.
The £55 million Wenger has available must cover the fees for any new signings as well as their wages. More revenues might flow if players can be moved on.

But as Wenger found last summer in his abortive attempts to find buyers for players such as Denilson, Nicklas Bendtner and Abou Diaby, the lavish salaries earned by Arsenal squad players makes underachievers difficult to move on.
There is also the pressing concern – reinforced by Sunday's north London derby which starts with Tottenham 10 points clear of their rivals – that Arsenal might not qualify for next season's Champions League. That, the AST estimates, would cost Arsenal about £45 million in prize money and match-day and media income.

Few other leading managers would operate under such constraints, but they arise as a result of Wenger's decision to pay his fringe players wages commensurate to those of Gareth Bale or Luka Modric.
"The wage bill of £130 million is sizeable and in the view of the AST there is clear inefficiency in wage spend evidenced by poor performances on the pitch and the number of players the club have either on loan (ie can't be sold) or deemed not good enough to play in the first team," the AST commented.

The precariousness of Arsenal's self-sustaining model was displayed at an AST meeting last night. Several fans who own executive seats threatened to withhold their season-ticket renewals until the club "shows some ambition".
If such disgruntled voices become more widespread and begin to vote with their feet, Arsenal's ability to meet their financial obligations will be under greater threat.

Simon Hill, the AST's financial analyst, said: "The great irony of Financial Fair Play is Arsenal run the club as break-even and fail to qualify for the Champions League and suffer a £40 million to £50 million drop in revenue and can't quickly lose players, they'll be the first club to fail to meet FFP."

Can someone explain that last paragraph for me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 22, 2012, 12:05:39 AM
I can explain it, but I don't understand it   :)
In what way would Arsenal violate FFP if CL income doesn't come?  Isn't FFP is an assessment to be done over a few years?

I don't get why the Arsenal trust shareholders put the whole blame on Wenger for over-priced contracts.
"Few other leading managers would operate under such constraints, but they arise as a result of Wenger's decision to pay his fringe players wages commensurate to those of Gareth Bale or Luka Modric"

On another matters,
Arsenal made £46m pre-tax profits in 2008/9 and £56m in 2009/10, quite remarkable by EPL standards, maybe by any standards.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Evil Genius on February 22, 2012, 12:17:53 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 21, 2012, 10:09:55 PM
Simon Hill, the AST's financial analyst, said: "The great irony of Financial Fair Play is Arsenal run the club as break-even and fail to qualify for the Champions League and suffer a £40 million to £50 million drop in revenue and can't quickly lose players, they'll be the first club to fail to meet FFP."

Can someone explain that last paragraph for me.
As I understand it, the FFP Rules broadly require clubs only to spend what they bring in by purely footballing means (i.e. no injection of cash by some Sugar Daddy).

In recent years the Arse have been almost unique amongst leading EPL clubs in matching their spending with their (football) revenue. However, in order to do so, much of that has depended on the £40m-odd they have got each year from qualifying for the CL. Therefore if they fail to qualify next time out, they'll either have to raise their (football) revenues and/or cut their spending.

The former is difficult (recession, fans resistance to higher ticket prices etc), though the latter could be achievable by cutting the wage bill, which is much higher than people imagine. For example, according to an analysis in tonights London Evening Standard, Arse have 71 (Seventy One) paid professionals on their books, including one Johan Djourou on £50k per week!  :o Further, they speculate that so bloated is their wage bill that the most they will be able to offer RVP is £100k per week, which may not be enough to keep him. That said, if he does sign, a four year contract, plus a £5m(?) re-signing fee will still cost them the thick end of £25m.

Of course, they could always sell Van Persie and raise a huge amount of dosh, but...    ... well I'm sure you know where that  would lead!  :D

Anyhow, here's that article I referred to:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/football/article-24037169-arsene-wenger-faces-being-left-with-just-pound-10m-to-rebuild-arsenal.do

Enjoy!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 22, 2012, 12:48:37 AM
Thanks EG - That makes a lot of sense (unfortunately).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Evil Genius on February 22, 2012, 01:01:24 AM
Quote from: Main Street on February 22, 2012, 12:05:39 AM
I don't get why the Arsenal trust shareholders put the whole blame on Wenger for over-priced contracts.
"Few other leading managers would operate under such constraints, but they arise as a result of Wenger's decision to pay his fringe players wages commensurate to those of Gareth Bale or Luka Modric"
One of the reasons why Wenger stays at the Arse is because of the autonomy they allow him over all matters footballing, including player contracts.
Therefore if he is granting generous contracts to excessive numbers of average players, then a bloated wage bill is down to him. (For example, £50k p.w. to Djourou is reportedly what Modric was tied down to for 5 years at Spurs, until Chelsea's interest caused a significant renegotiation).

Quote from: Main Street on February 22, 2012, 12:05:39 AM
On another matters,
Arsenal made £46m pre-tax profits in 2008/9 and £56m in 2009/10, quite remarkable by EPL standards, maybe by any standards.
Remarkable, indeed, except that much of that profit was boosted by income from the ongoing redevelopment of the old stadium. There is still more to come, but since it effectively consists of selling off flats as and when they're built (and buyers can be found), that revenue must be finite.

Tbh, when it comes to explaining Wenger's policy towards signing and selling players etc, I have my own theory that like everyone else, he has actually been screwed by the Recession. For he is nothing if not a long-termist, and I suspect by far the most significant influence on his thinking and planning was the move from the Library to Cashburden Grows.

I don't know the exact figures, but I think I read somewhere that it was initially envisaged that the overall project would see the new stadium built and completely paid for, from the proceeds of the redevelopment of the old one, sometime by 2010(?).

Had that been the case, then the Arse would have been clear of debt by now, with the profits from 60k fans every fortnight going exclusively towards the player kitty. In which case, he could have hoped to have had enough of a budget to fend off the likes of Barca and Man. City etc and keep players like Fabregas, Nasri and Clichy etc, who were still only teenagers when the Stadium project was starting.

As we know, however, thanks to the Recession, it will be another 3 or 4 years(?) before the whole project is complete, so that Wenger is as yet unable to offer the £100k+ weekly wages needed to keep his existing star players, never mind sign new ones.

Of course, one might have expected the Board to step in and bridge the gap, except that it is hopelessly divided. That is, I suspect Kronke doesn't want to stump up an advance to Wenger, in case Usmanov subsequently wrests control from him and reaps the benefit. And Usmanov isn't going to fund new players until he has control.

Which means that in the light of the FFP Rules, along with the emergence of Citeh and THFC as genuine contenders, CL qualification is more vital than ever.

Well that's how I see it anyhow, and if I'm even a quarter right, it all spells potentially Big Trouble Ahead for old Arsene & Co.

To quote a Great Philosopher: "Oh Dear. How Sad. Never Mind."  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 22, 2012, 10:35:38 AM
Interesting stuff EG if somewhat depressing reading..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 22, 2012, 06:55:06 PM
Arsenal are not the top spenders on wages down through the years, this season they are 4th in both the salary table and the league table.
Even if Wenger had total control in that player contract area,  he would match the spend with a final position of 4th place.

In general, there are some players' wages at the top level which are preposterous.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on February 24, 2012, 07:04:35 PM
a strange move letting arhavin go on loan to Zenit St Petersburg at this stage of the season. 

Arshavin league stats in 2009 & 2010: 60 games, 20 goals, 15 assists. In 2011 & 2012: 38 games, 3 goals, 5 assists.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2012, 07:12:39 PM
Fits in with the current theme of this thread - wages - Zenith will pick up his wage bill - probably around 100K per week

Getting a high earner like him off the wage bill leaves more room to pay RVP...

Still he was damn good in his first year and a half - all downhill since - will remember him most for the 4 goals in anfield...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 24, 2012, 09:33:38 PM
His goal v Barca was his most memorable.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 25, 2012, 10:22:16 AM
Anyone else trembling about Sunday?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 25, 2012, 10:50:53 AM
Interesting article though there are a couple of points I'd question.

Top of the pyramid: why Arsene Wenger has little blame in Arsenal's woes


As Arsenal once again come crashing out of dreamland into the reality that another season has been lost in disappointment, the annual discontent is getting louder for every passing year. Many supporters are once again calling for a managerial change, claiming Wenger has reached the limit of what he's capable of. But is Wenger really the main problem?

At the height of Wenger's career at Arsenal, a couple of interesting things happened. The first thing is the hubris installed in the board room after our historic unbeaten season, leading them to believe we could win anything with just some kids and a couple of pennies in the bank. The second thing is that a couple of years later, a board room rift resulted in the ousting of David Dein.

The role of David Dein
David Dein bought 16.6% of Arsenal in 1983, and slowly built his portfolio to 42% over the next eight years. Since then, he was our middle-man, our transfer broker and our fixer. He was the link between Wenger and the board, and he was the man you trusted to get things done. He was not only instrumental in bringing Wenger to the club, but also brokered the deals for Wright, Bergkamp, Vieira, Henry, Pires – the list is endless.

So when the board got rid of Dein, we lost one of the most important backroom staff members we ever had. His departure was also similar to our recent squad departures, in that no one was brought in as a proper like-for-like replacement. Dein's club responsibilities were delegated to others, just like our departed holding midfielder responsibilities have been delegated to other positions.

With this extra burden of having to get involved with transfer details and contract negotiations, Wenger has lost some of the focus on the pitch. With Dein as his go-to guy for negotiations and making things happen behind the scenes, Wenger was able to put more effort into nurturing the project initiated by the club as soon as the contracts were signed for building the Emirates Stadium – competing at the highest level while spending less than others.

It was more of a necessity than a choice to do so, as the cost of building a new stadium meant we had to look at alternative ways of putting together a football team. And so the mighty transition started, with Wenger looking to bring in new teenagers every other year or so, to build a continuous wave of talent breaking into the first team as the older generations dwindled in quality.

But with Dein leaving the club, we lost a ruthlessness not evident in the likes of Wenger, or any other backroom staff for that matter. That ruthlessness could have meant a difference in how Barcelona spent years tapping up our best player – it's doubtful Dein would've allowed such blatant disrespect from the catalans. It could also have meant the difference in both the kind of quality we could attract, and also the amount of money we'd spend on that quality.

Current tug-of-war causing trouble
When Dein left the club in 2007, he teamed up with Russian oligarch Alisher Usmanov and Iranian investor Farhad Moshiri to form investment group Red & White Holdings – dedicated to buy as many Arsenal shares as possible to resume ownership of the club and get Dein back in the board room to usher Arsenal into a new era of success as the stadium debts were having less influence on the financial policy than in the early 2000′s.


Current chairman Peter Hill-Wood saw this as an aggressive form of revenge from Dein, and started looking for an alternative – someone who could compete with Dein and Usmanov for shares and keep Red & White Holdings away from the club.

That person was Stan Kroenke, a US businessman with billions to spend and a good track record in American sports. In other words; the only reason Stan Kroenke is the owner of Arsenal Football Club is because Peter Hill-Wood didn't want David Dein – one of Wenger's closest allies – to return to the club.

Meanwhile, Wenger is left to try and control several areas of responsibility when he should be focused on just one – getting the first team to play proper football.

Wenger trying to be the dealmaker has resulted in a couple of blunders – most recently the mix-up with AS Monaco over summer signing Park Chu-Young, who escaped his hotel room after a late plea to pack his things and head to London. Trying to be business-savvy and merciless towards the young men he's attempting to coach in both football and people skills just won't work. He is forced to wear too many hats, and at some point he needs another Dein – someone who can play the bad cop while Wenger is playing the good one.

State of Arsenal's finances
When the Arsenal Supporter's Trust met a couple of days ago, some worrying numbers emerged – the biggest one being that Arsenal's annual £50m transfer budget is 90% made up by Champions League money. A total of £45m disappears from the war chest if Arsenal fail to qualify for the Champions League, and that means we'll have £5m left for transfer fees, wages, add-ons, bonuses, etc.

We also revealed numbers on Twitter recently showing Arsenal purchased 40 players since the 2008-2009 season – but only six of those players have since left the club on a permanent basis. Of the 34 players left, only six or seven would be considered to be first XI starters. It all results in the fourth highest wage bill in the Premier League, despite the fact that Arsenal have an internal wage cap around £110-120k/week, and despite the fact that Man City and Chelsea have some players on £180k/week or more.

This summer will be quite interesting in terms of how our frugal board will approach the imminent need for success, especially if Arsenal finish below fourth place in the Premier League. Buying players isn't the ultimate answer, but strengthening the team with a couple of high class footballers in the right areas, all while trying to clear out the personnel we don't really need, could be the first step on a new path.

If Wenger will be here for that transition, no one knows. But one thing is for certain; Wenger is not the man to try and broker the deals and make things happen. He needs a right hand man, someone who's not afraid to get things done. From one perspective you might say that we have the same problems off the pitch as on it; inability to adapt and win ugly.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 25, 2012, 11:51:19 PM
Paul Merson pulls no punches

This game is Arsenal's cup final for this season.

In years gone by this hasn't been the biggest game for them - Manchester United and Chelsea were bigger - but all of a sudden this is the defining game of the year.

If they lose this game then I don't know where Arsenal are going. Three or four years ago they were a million miles ahead of Tottenham, but now Spurs can win this game and show that they're the ones way out in front.

Even if Arsenal win I very much doubt they can catch Tottenham in the table. They'd need to win five games on the trot to do that and I don't think this team is good enough to do that.

They're not a very good team; it's as simple as that. You can go around the houses with ways to be polite about it, but that's the issue. There were players in the team against AC Milan that shouldn't be playing for Arsenal. It's not fair to single individuals out, but there are guys that shouldn't be at the club, let alone playing in big European ties.

When David Dein was there, they were bringing in players like Thierry Henry, Dennis Bergkamp, Patrick Vieira, Marc Overmars and Emmanuel Petit. Those were class footballers in the top 20 in the world at the time. Now they're bringing in players that Fulham wouldn't take if they came up for sale tomorrow. That's the way it's gone.

You have to look at the manager. He hasn't won anything for seven years, so questions have to be asked. You've got to forget what he's done before - seven years ago I was still a footballer, but I don't think anybody would pick me now!

Arsene Wenger has done a great job for Arsenal, but time moves on and you've got to look at what's happening now. And what's happening right now is that they're falling way behind their arch rivals from up the road.

Sunday's game is bigger for Arsenal than it is for Tottenham and I can't remember the last time I said that. When I was at Arsenal I remember the whole first team being rested against Spurs because we had a cup final the next weekend. All of a sudden this <>is the cup final.

Tottenham will want to go there and rub their noses in it and Arsenal need to start well. If they fall behind in the first 15-20 minutes I think I'll turn the telly over because it could get really bad.

I don't think a draw will be much good to Arsene Wenger, but that's what I think will happen because I don't see them keeping Tottenham to nil.

PAUL PREDICTS: 1-1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 26, 2012, 09:29:55 AM
This David Dein thing is appearing alot this week. Agenda?

Won't see the game, probably a blessing...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on February 26, 2012, 02:15:23 PM
Bale is a diving b8astard but Arsenal's defence really is shite. Sagna just scores, no more than Arsenal deserve. Absorbing game it could go anyone's way now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on February 26, 2012, 02:18:50 PM
RVP equaliser, great strike.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: EC Unique on February 26, 2012, 02:47:05 PM
Arsenal deserve the lead. Arry getting some abuse ;D great game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on February 26, 2012, 03:02:57 PM
Unreal! Happy for Walcott, he has took a lot of stick recently. Great viewing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on February 26, 2012, 03:28:22 PM
I see they just gave RVP the MOM, I thought he played really well but for me Tomas Rosicky was. Parker deserved his Red, that last tackle was very nasty. Great advert for the PL. Btw that Ian Wright would sicken your hole.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on February 26, 2012, 03:30:29 PM
crazy season for arse
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 26, 2012, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on February 26, 2012, 03:28:22 PM
Parker deserved his Red that last tackle was very nasty.
It was a bad tackle but not with nasty intent.

QuoteGreat advert for the PL.
The game was great advert for Arsenal and in particular Wenger, regardless of the overhyped football quality of Spurs this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on February 26, 2012, 03:45:01 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 26, 2012, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on February 26, 2012, 03:28:22 PM
Parker deserved his Red that last tackle was very nasty.
It was a bad tackle but not with nasty intent.

QuoteGreat advert for the PL.
The game was great advert for Arsenal and in particular Wenger, regardless of the overhyped football quality of Spurs this season.

It was intentional IMHO, and regarding your opinion of Spurs football this season why do you think it has been overhyped?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: under the bar on February 26, 2012, 11:19:27 PM
Why was Sagna wearing lederhosen in his post match interview??  bit s&m looking!!! :-X ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 26, 2012, 11:59:14 PM
Well, that was nice.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 27, 2012, 10:38:51 AM
Quote from: ziggy90 on February 26, 2012, 03:45:01 PM
It was intentional IMHO, and regarding your opinion of Spurs football this season why do you think it has been overhyped?
They have a good team, better than previous seasons, they play better football than Liverpool -  but that's not saying very much.  IMO, Chelsea played the better football in their last encounter and now in a high pressure game, Arsenal have played them off the park after going behind to two freakish goals.  There are many factors over a whole season that we can use to determine the quality of a team. Spurs current achievement is to be in 3rd place, ahead of a dysfunctional Arsenal & Chelsea.
I think Arsenal's decline has been over-egged and the feared demise of Wenger's magic, premature.  I also don't subscribe to the fears around Arsenal's supposed dire financial straights. They could go through some tight times but I would still back Arsenal for 4th place and I suspect that Arsenal will finish stronger than Spurs. There's plenty of room for Arsenal FC to tighten their financial belt and provide the necessary funds for Wenger to buy a few more decent players.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 27, 2012, 11:00:46 AM
The rollercoaster continues... ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on February 27, 2012, 01:19:23 PM
QuoteI think Arsenal's decline has been over-egged and the feared demise of Wenger's magic, premature.

I think a lot of the criticism (of Wenger) over the years is down to the English media's distrust/dislike of foreigners.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 27, 2012, 04:10:26 PM
Even Arsenal fans are getting sucked in by fear and caution judging by the Arsenal Trust take on the financial figures. Wenger/Arsenal are supposed to be overspending on wages, despite the fact that they are just 4th in the salary table, a position they have rarely rose above in the EPL, down through the seasons.  Wenger's been making a profit from the transfer market year in year out, less is spent on signing players than most teams in the EPL, less is spent on salaries than ManU/City and Chelsea? yet Arsenal Trust put the blame on him for overspending on salaries?
I use to like the idea of fans buying shares until I read that mumbo jumbo from Arsenal Trust.

PS. far be it for me to be countering the misinformation recently spread on this thread  by a Spurs supporter, to a very gullible readership.
Contrary to that misinformation, Arsenal FC's made a healthy profit from football affairs and some, much smaller profit from the property portofolio

The figures from 2011 do not record the transfers made after May 2011.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zcqrzXOZAyo/To1YtD_SHuI/AAAAAAAAEFo/UfNSlcHW-QQ/s400/5%2BArsenal%2BImpact%2Bof%2BPlayer%2BSales.jpg)



Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 27, 2012, 05:11:00 PM
I thought Sagna's performance was overlooked in the reviews. He hardly put a foot wrong for most of the game and when the hapless Walcott was imploding in the first half, it was Bacary who kept plugging down the right. Bale wasn't in the game much at all and ended switching wings. His dive was another aspect of the game overlooked.

Walcott's first half performance was terrible - possibly the worst I've witnessed in an Arsenal shirt. The more he erred the worse he got to the point that he was just off-loading the ball to anyone in any shirt. In the second half he found himself twice in a position where he couldn't pass it so had to go for broke and it paid off.

I know that his assist rate was decent in the first half of the season but having watched those games he had no idea where the ball was going and it was only Van Persie's talent that bumped up his figures. It's a strange thing to say about a player who has just scored 2 goals in a North London derby but I'd cash in on Theo this summer and buy some real wing talent.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on February 27, 2012, 05:55:13 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on February 26, 2012, 02:15:23 PM
Bale is a diving b8astard but Arsenal's defence really is shite. Sagna just scores, no more than Arsenal deserve. Absorbing game it could go anyone's way now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 29, 2012, 07:45:48 PM
International Gooner watch:

On-loan - Arshavin scores for Russia.
On-loan  - Lansbury scores twice for England U21s
Chamberlain scores for England U21s
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 03, 2012, 08:53:58 AM
What to expect today?

It'll be interesting to see who takes responibility if Robin's missing. Sort-of looking forward to see what happens if he doesn't play.

It'll be disappointing if they don't show a similar desire to win as they did against the Spuds.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 03, 2012, 02:50:10 PM
A lot of huff and puff in that game, draw would have been a fair result but RVP is the difference, some finish and it deserved to win a game...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Main Street on March 03, 2012, 02:53:00 PM
That was one of the great goals of all time, imo.
Comparable to this one  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J_DwsO9bIY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J_DwsO9bIY)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 03, 2012, 03:24:43 PM
Smash 'n' Grab.

Arsenal average to poor but scored all three goals. Can smell Harry's squeaky bum.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2012, 08:08:40 PM
Some effort from the Gunners so far. Biting into tackles like never before. The ref's a bit card-happy though.

1-0 up but AC are capable of scoring against that defence again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on March 06, 2012, 08:12:01 PM
2-0, game on!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 06, 2012, 08:12:22 PM
2-0 just need another 2 or 3
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 06, 2012, 08:14:36 PM
Come on the Gooners ! You would never know!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2012, 08:16:57 PM
Milan don't seem to be up for this at all.

All the same - all they need is one and Arsenal need 6.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 06, 2012, 08:29:16 PM
3-0 that ref took his time to give the penalty.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 06, 2012, 08:29:51 PM
Ha. What a second half in store.  Come on. Milan are very poor.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 06, 2012, 08:32:13 PM
Lucky! Milan goal there would have been a real kick in the stones!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 06, 2012, 08:32:35 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 06, 2012, 08:29:16 PM
3-0 that ref took his time to give the penalty.

Official behind the goal gave it - first time I've ever seen them do anything.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on March 06, 2012, 08:36:54 PM
Just checked PP odds Arsenal only 13/8 to qualify for the next round. 5-0 has odds of 11/2.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 06, 2012, 08:39:32 PM
Did anyone just see that ad for "Match Attax" with Robbie Keane and Shay Given?! Jesus, it was mortifying.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Gazzler on March 06, 2012, 08:39:42 PM
Bingo time?? WTF!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
Incredible first half. Zlatan hardly touched it. Robinho and El Shaarawy very ineffective. The rest of the Milan side never seemed up for it since the 1st minute.

For Arsenal, Kolcielny has been outstanding with Chamberlain running him close. If he runs at them from MF all they can do is foul. With Van Bommel on a yellow it could be dodgy territory for Milan. Gervinho has been very average but at least is getting back. As Neville says - all Arsenal need to do is concentrate on defending and that goal will come. Rosicky is playing like the midfielder we thought he was. No matter how this pans out, at least they've shown a bit of bottle in recent weeks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Orior on March 06, 2012, 08:43:46 PM
Betting scam?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: J70 on March 06, 2012, 08:47:08 PM
Holy f**k! Still at work, so I only got HT score when I checked online! Hope they finish the job after Robinho telling them they've no chance!

On Kocielny, despite his og, I thought he looked a very decent player against Liverpool.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 06, 2012, 08:48:43 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 06, 2012, 08:16:57 PM
Milan don't seem to be up for this at all.

All the same - all they need is one and Arsenal need 6.

Yeah, back to square one, if that happens!

I would not risk to much at the back for the first 20 minutes of the second half, they are one goal away from penalties!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2012, 08:58:38 PM
Milan playing a bit this half. Need to ride this out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 06, 2012, 09:01:39 PM
Should have been the one!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2012, 09:03:55 PM
If they do it fair fcuks to them. End to end!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 06, 2012, 09:04:50 PM
Some man sick behind Wenger! Puke all over the sign behind him!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2012, 09:05:19 PM
Can smell a Milan goal. Arsenal have lost that zip. So much space since Chamberlain got a knock.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 06, 2012, 09:12:00 PM
Would you look at this coming!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 06, 2012, 09:14:47 PM
The 'Liverpool' Boy is on for Milan! ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 06, 2012, 09:17:00 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on March 06, 2012, 09:12:00 PM
Would you look at this coming!
Aquaman.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2012, 09:18:09 PM
Jaysus Chamakh on. Hasn't scored since 1986.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2012, 09:19:09 PM
What a miss/save!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 06, 2012, 09:19:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 06, 2012, 09:19:09 PM
What a miss/save!!


Unreal! Has to be Arsenals night!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 06, 2012, 09:20:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 06, 2012, 09:18:09 PM
Jaysus Chamakh on. Hasn't scored since 1986.

When he was 2!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2012, 09:21:17 PM
A real Bendtner there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 06, 2012, 09:23:30 PM
After watching this i might fly emirates.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2012, 09:26:38 PM
Walcott and Chamberlain crocked. Costly night.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 06, 2012, 09:31:43 PM
Arsenal are out on their legs........One more chance.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Gold on March 06, 2012, 09:32:20 PM
Some first half. Gave up in 2nd half though. Chamach?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: EC Unique on March 06, 2012, 09:35:59 PM
Nice try but ultimately a fail.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 06, 2012, 09:36:11 PM
At least Arsenal went down fighting and produced a better champions league exit than the Manchester clubs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 06, 2012, 09:37:02 PM
Good effort.  Two boys going off didn't help, lost the pace and direct running. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 06, 2012, 09:38:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 06, 2012, 09:18:09 PM
Jaysus Chamakh on. Hasn't scored since 1986.

Did he touch the ball?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Gazzler on March 06, 2012, 09:38:56 PM
At least they don't have the embarrassment of having to play Europa League now.
Fair play Arsenal pity they couldn't finish the job.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2012, 09:40:31 PM
Just ran out of gas.

That Van Persie chance was the turner.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 06, 2012, 09:47:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 06, 2012, 09:40:31 PM
Just ran out of gas.

That Van Persie chance was the turner.

Yeah, credit to the goalkeeper, VP did the right thing with the chip!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 06, 2012, 09:49:03 PM
Thought Walcott was actually quite poor, particularly in second half. I'd barely credit him with a role in the Rosicky goal - his cross was abysmal. Held onto ball too much and tends to float across box from right to left, too scared to have a crack on his left.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2012, 09:58:41 PM
Hopefully the injuries will be OK by Monday.

Having hammered Spurs and Milan as well as winning at Anfield, they're in decent form.

RE Walcott - he NEVER plays well. Now and again he'll use his pace if played clean through and may score.

WTF was Song at with that last attack? 2 men free on his left.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2012, 10:13:25 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on March 06, 2012, 09:04:50 PM
Some man sick behind Wenger! Puke all over the sign behind him!

Excitement too much.

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423237_384947514850314_100000052072958_1503962_1470049109_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on March 06, 2012, 10:51:38 PM
That happened when Arsene told Chamakh he was going on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 07, 2012, 09:27:21 PM
Podolski?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on March 08, 2012, 12:08:31 PM
looks like a done deal for £11 million


PODOLSKI AT A GLANCE

    Born: Gliwice, Poland, 1985
    1997: Family move to Germany
    1995: Joins Cologne, first-team debut in 2003
    2006: Joins Bayern Munich after scoring 51 goals in 84 games for Cologne
    2009: Rejoins Cologne after scoring 26 goals in 106 games for Bayern
    2010-12: Has scored 14 and 16 goals in last two seasons
    Germany: 91 caps, 43 goals
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2012, 12:26:56 PM
Sounds like good business, always liked the look of him with Germany. A 27 year old Germany International with 91 caps, how much would he cost if he was English? 11m looks like good business. Is Germany the new France for Arsenal...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 08, 2012, 12:49:57 PM
Has always done well for Germany but never really lit the club scene up.  Could be very good, could be very average.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2012, 12:56:54 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 08, 2012, 12:49:57 PM
Has always done well for Germany but never really lit the club scene up.  Could be very good, could be very average.

He was good before he joined Munich, probably too big a move for a 21 year old, he might not be an Andy Carroll but at 11m definitely worth a punt...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 08, 2012, 01:47:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2012, 12:56:54 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 08, 2012, 12:49:57 PM
Has always done well for Germany but never really lit the club scene up.  Could be very good, could be very average.

He was good before he joined Munich, probably too big a move for a 21 year old, he might not be an Andy Carroll but at 11m definitely worth a punt...

At £11m worth a pot alright, as I said he could be very good and with no big fee round his neck there is less pressure(unless RVP heads in the summer then all the pressure will be on him ;))
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on March 09, 2012, 02:43:48 PM
So Arsenal are obviously going to sell Van Persie and pocket the spare change. Am I right ire am I right?

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Main Street on March 10, 2012, 08:22:51 AM
I think Koln and Podolski have done a good bit of business here. Koln selling on a player who has a year left on his contract for £1m more than they payed and Podolski securing a contract with a 100% pay hike (some £6m p/a), as well as escaping from a club languishing way down the Bundesliga.

Wenger is one generous benefactor and a great man to do business with.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 10, 2012, 10:52:34 AM
Let's hope he experiences a more productive couple of years than Chamakh if he arrives.

If there was a firesale in the summer, what price would you put on:

Bendtner
Chamakh
Djourou
Squillachi
Arshavin
Vela
Denilson
Almunia


?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Carntogher on March 10, 2012, 12:12:08 PM
You would save at least 450k a week in wages for a start.  Enough to pay the wages of three RVP's!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Main Street on March 10, 2012, 12:27:53 PM
If Podolski is on £115k p/w, then what price Van Persie?
But I suppose VP's tolerance of such a parity in wages with Podolski would depend on what he could get elsewhere, except Man City of course  :)

I thought Wenger would have taken on board  some financial constraints but it appears he is raising the bar higher and higher.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 10, 2012, 12:32:26 PM
I would fear for a player who was let go by Bayern Munich, True he has done it on the international stage, but there are alot of players who do that and are muck when it comes to the bread and butter club scene. Arsenal should know, they have had a few of them over the last couple of seasons.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 10, 2012, 12:55:30 PM
Chamakh was claimed on a free and has a great rep in France so he could still get around £6m for him. Bendtner the same for an English club. I can't see much dough being made out of the rest unless the Brazilians are loving Denilson. Also, hopefully Arshavin lights up the Russian league.

Arsenal are still in a precarious place concerning finances simply because in the past there was always the potential resale value of good players and the CL money. Now, the stars are few and far between. Also, many don't understand profit when it comes to football and take it at face value. It's a case of assets and amortisation. If Arsenal bought a player for 4m over 4 years, the accountants see it as 4x1m. So if Arsenal resold him in year two for 5m, the accounts will show a 2m profit (they reckon he's worth 4m in year 1, 3m in year 2, 2m in year 3, etc). The profit figures are distorted. Arsenal showed a '63m' profit last year even though 50m was spent on transfers. Wages are also included in this profit. The wages they didn't have to pay for the remainder of their contract is also included in the profit tally. Shady figures.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Main Street on March 10, 2012, 02:26:07 PM
The last finance year ended in May 2011, many things happened after that time.

May 2011 - 2012 will still show a profit. Arsenal are in quite a good position to exploit the finance regulations and get a jump start on some of their rivals who have been purchasing players with no such club related income
But a lot has been staked on Podolski.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 10, 2012, 03:15:59 PM
Quote from: Main Street on March 10, 2012, 02:26:07 PM

But a lot has been staked on Podolski.

That's why I think there'll be a bit of a clear-out (instead of loans) this Summer.

In terms of future income there is still money owed for Cesc. These were the figures:

Initial Fee: £25.3m
The transfer fee was split up over two payments. Arsenal received £12.65m in August 2011, and the other £12.65m a month later, in September 2011.

Instalments: £4.3m
£860k every year, spread over five years. This is taken from Fabregas' salary in a £16.8k/week "wage cut" from €80k/week to €60k/week. Barcelona can improve his contract at any time, so the "wage cut" is a goodwill smoke screen.

Performance: £4.3m
£1.72m for every La Liga title and £860k for a Champions League title during his first five years, capping out at £4.3m.

In total, the transfer was a guaranteed £29.6m over the next five years, possibly rising to about £34m in total.


It's reckoned that 90% of Arsenal's annual transfer kitty comes from CL money. Even if they do qualify again this year, Wenger can either get a couple of lesser lights (like Gervinho/Arteta) or splash out on one £20-30m which would blow the whole load when you include wages and all the other trappings around a big player like agent fees etc.

All the while the teams with trophies will pay big dollar for the best players and Arsenal will find themselves further from the top in England. It's frustrating that the Arsenal financial model doesn't allow for the best players to play Arsene's football but that's the price you pay for substandard shirt and kit deals.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Main Street on March 10, 2012, 06:32:17 PM
I hadn't realised that it was painlessly easy for a club like Man City to circumvent the FFP rules and guarantee a flood of income through owner related sponsorship.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 10, 2012, 10:06:22 PM
13 points behind Spurs after 40 mins of the North London derby a couple of weeks ago. Possibly 1 point on Monday night. Need to turn the screw.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 11, 2012, 10:52:42 AM
Man City on full throttle hype now re Van Persie. 210'000 a year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on March 12, 2012, 07:14:51 PM
Szczesny; Sagna, Koscielny, Vermaelen, Gibbs; Song, Arteta; Walcott, Rosicky, Oxlade-Chamberlain; Van Persie.


looking forward to tonights match,  as its being a few weeks since i have being able to watch them. so if we get beat tonight i will have jinked them
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 12, 2012, 08:23:24 PM
Good game so far. 1-1. Walcott is some hoor though. He hasn't a clue who he's crossing it to, just hoping that VP can make the best of whatever ball is put in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on March 12, 2012, 08:42:53 PM
Very sporting of newcastle kicking the ball out of play. Can't understand why they don't play to the whistle
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 12, 2012, 08:56:41 PM
Arsenal looking a bit subdued the longer the game went on there. They need a bit of a spark this half.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on March 12, 2012, 09:51:27 PM
With all the possession we had and we can't make it count
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 12, 2012, 09:57:40 PM
GERRY I FECKIN' LOVE YOUR NEGATIVITY!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 12, 2012, 10:00:44 PM
Phew.

Walcott will get the credit again!

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on March 12, 2012, 10:04:45 PM
what a finish again by arsenal. no love lost between krul and van persie.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on March 12, 2012, 10:05:55 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on March 12, 2012, 09:57:40 PM
GERRY I FECKIN' LOVE YOUR NEGATIVITY!  ;D

we had these stats and we neary came away with 1 point


FT Stats Arsenal v Newcastle Shots 23-4, On target 8-2, Fouls 11-12, Duels Won 49%-51%, Pass Accuracy 85%-75%, Possession 61%-39%
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 12, 2012, 10:07:00 PM
Quote from: gerry on March 12, 2012, 10:05:55 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on March 12, 2012, 09:57:40 PM
GERRY I FECKIN' LOVE YOUR NEGATIVITY!  ;D

we had these stats and we neary came away with 1 point


FT Stats Arsenal v Newcastle Shots 23-4, On target 8-2, Fouls 11-12, Duels Won 49%-51%, Pass Accuracy 85%-75%, Possession 61%-39%

I know we have a heavy French influence - but that is just redonkulous right there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Minder on March 12, 2012, 10:07:18 PM
Fair fucks to Wenger for turning things round.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 12, 2012, 10:07:31 PM
What was going on anyway? Did Krul head over to VP after the goal to hurry him up? Odd time to pick a fight, though it was brewing all game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on March 12, 2012, 10:19:13 PM
RVP accused Krul of time wasting in the 1st half, then told him "time waste now" after Vermaelen scored the winner.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 12, 2012, 10:38:02 PM
Those crazy dutch..

Given up trying to analyze the arse, just enjoying the ride at the moment..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ildanach on March 12, 2012, 11:08:40 PM
one point behind spurs. everton away next and they are home to stoke. then we have villa after that and they have chelsea.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Go home ref on March 12, 2012, 11:10:32 PM
Sickened! It would of been a great point for the toon Arsenal the better team no doubt but the 5 mins added on was a disgrace it seemed to be a case of add on enough time for Asenal to score. The conduct of RVP was shameful a club captain should have more cop on
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: blewuporstuffed on March 13, 2012, 12:46:39 PM
gary neville 'your asking the wrong man' LOL

http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/gary-neville-analysis-of-the-robin-van-persie-v-tim-krul-spat/ (http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/gary-neville-analysis-of-the-robin-van-persie-v-tim-krul-spat/)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 13, 2012, 04:52:27 PM
NEVER write lol on this thread again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 13, 2012, 05:03:25 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 13, 2012, 04:52:27 PM
NEVER write lol on this thread again.
;D Should really be extended to the whole board.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 21, 2012, 08:03:08 PM
I'd happily settle for a point tonight v Everton. The Toffees are in no great shape at the minute but they've a habit of turning over a top 4er every now and again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 21, 2012, 08:16:02 PM
Arsenal totally murdering the Toffees first 10 mins. Could have 4, only have 1. No doubt Everton will score 2 with their first shot on target.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 21, 2012, 08:49:11 PM
1-0 up at half time but Everton had the best of the last 20 minutes. Some dodgy offside calls in Arsenal's favour.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 21, 2012, 09:16:54 PM
Only a matter of time before Everton score, unless Le Arse can get a breakaway.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on March 21, 2012, 09:17:42 PM
great to see a fighting spirit with the gooners tonight
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on March 21, 2012, 09:21:59 PM
sp*rs falling apart
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 21, 2012, 09:22:48 PM
Quote from: gerry on March 21, 2012, 09:17:42 PM
great to see a fighting spirit with the gooners tonight

Would still take a point.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 21, 2012, 09:42:57 PM
Spuds get a point.

Oh God. Not Djourou.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 21, 2012, 09:48:42 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 21, 2012, 09:42:57 PM
Spuds get a point.

Oh God. Not Djourou.

Pennant should have had a peno at the end!
Ref bottled it!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 21, 2012, 09:52:16 PM
Phew again.

Can't believe Arsenal have pulled it back to third place now. How the feck did that happen?

As Gerry says - a fighting performance from circa 1988.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 21, 2012, 09:57:02 PM
That was like George Graham's Arsenal with the amount of off-sides from Everton, although due more to dodgy officiating than an Arsenal high line. Still defended pretty well and Everton were just all huff and puff without creating any clear chances, apart from the off-side goal which should have stood. To counter that the Gooners should have a penalty for a blatant foul on Rosicky.

3rd now and only 15 points off Man U now.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 21, 2012, 10:28:59 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 21, 2012, 09:57:02 PM
That was like George Graham's Arsenal with the amount of off-sides from Everton

Was expecting to see Adams' statue appear in the box, arm stretched, glaring at the lino.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 21, 2012, 11:00:40 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 21, 2012, 09:57:02 PM
That was like George Graham's Arsenal with the amount of off-sides from Everton, although due more to dodgy officiating than an Arsenal high line. Still defended pretty well and Everton were just all huff and puff without creating any clear chances, apart from the off-side goal which should have stood. To counter that the Gooners should have a penalty for a blatant foul on Rosicky.

3rd now and only 15 points off Man U now.....

Love it Dinny.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Main Street on March 22, 2012, 07:02:11 PM
Is this the sound of the vessels filling up?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 22, 2012, 08:01:47 PM
Interesting that Wenger still prefers Walcott over Oxlade. Apart from experience I cannot see what Theo offers above the younger lad. Even Gervinho was more dangerous for the 15 mins he was on the field.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 22, 2012, 10:25:23 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 22, 2012, 08:01:47 PM
Interesting that Wenger still prefers Walcott over Oxlade. Apart from experience I cannot see what Theo offers above the younger lad. Even Gervinho was more dangerous for the 15 mins he was on the field.

It might be a case of easing him in gently so he doesn't burn out like Wilshere?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on March 23, 2012, 10:48:38 PM
QuoteInteresting that Wenger still prefers Walcott over Oxlade. Apart from experience I cannot see what Theo offers above the younger lad. Even Gervinho was more dangerous for the 15 mins he was on the field.

QuoteIt might be a case of easing him in gently so he doesn't burn out like Wilshere?

if wenger has a weakness. it is introducing prospective talent too early
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 23, 2012, 11:06:26 PM
Need to keep the run going tomorrow. Our very own Gerry is off to the Emirates to see the Villa game tomorrow. Hope he has a better day than I did the three times I watched Arse v Villa. 0-1, 2-3 and 1-1. Got to see Bendtner play in the flesh though.

Hard to know what to think about Chelsea/Spuds. A Spurs win will make Chelsea's top 4 chances much weaker. A draw is ok. Yet, watching Spurs' present demise is sorta warming. Spurs have a decent run-in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on March 23, 2012, 11:34:20 PM
a draw would do ok but seeing spurs drop further is hard to beat
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 24, 2012, 06:16:10 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 23, 2012, 11:06:26 PM
Need to keep the run going tomorrow. Our very own Gerry is off to the Emirates to see the Villa game tomorrow. Hope he has a better day than I did the three times I watched Arse v Villa. 0-1, 2-3 and 1-1. Got to see Bendtner play in the flesh though.

Hard to know what to think about Chelsea/Spuds. A Spurs win will make Chelsea's top 4 chances much weaker. A draw is ok. Yet, watching Spurs' present demise is sorta warming. Spurs have a decent run-in.

Wow, one for the grand-children..

Like Gerry I would take the draw as McLeish always parks the bus and sends his teams out to work hard but I think with the rumors of discontent in Villa I can't see them having the spirit to apply the work rate required to frustrate The Arsenal so it should be 7 in a row...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on March 24, 2012, 06:19:33 AM
Your early at it today dinny
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 24, 2012, 08:17:57 AM
I think Gerry was talking about a draw in the Chelsea/Spuds game Dinny. I'd be v disappointed if Arsenal only drew today. Have to beat a bottom half team at home. Was looking through Villa's results and they rarely lose by more than a goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Orangemac on March 24, 2012, 08:47:56 AM
Wenger has done a fantastic job turning Arsenal around and things look great because of the run they are on but everything is relative.

Would Arsenal fans have been happy last summer, if they had been told they would finish 3rd, be 15 points off the top and have another trophyless season?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 24, 2012, 09:34:57 AM
That is the reality. You cannot run from the fact that the squad possesses a lot of players who aren't capable of being part of a title winning side and this run has deflected from that. Yet, in Arsene we still trust and let's ride the rollercoaster in the mean time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on March 24, 2012, 06:02:36 PM
2011/2012 EPL table after 5 games played (http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/league-table.html?season=2011-2012&timelineView=played&matchNo=4&tableView=CURRENT_STANDINGS)


Some turnaround in 25 games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 24, 2012, 06:57:59 PM
Powerful first half performances from Rosicky, Song and Arteta. Gervinho was prominent in that period two whilst Sagna and Gibbs showed well. Walcott managed to control a couple of passes. Good to have 2 fit full backs. Villa didn't offer much at all.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 24, 2012, 09:48:47 PM
Only 12 points off top now, all to play for....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 24, 2012, 10:40:35 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 24, 2012, 09:48:47 PM
Only 12 points off top now, all to play for....
Arsenal have Manchester City at home next target to catch them?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 24, 2012, 10:58:13 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 24, 2012, 10:40:35 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 24, 2012, 09:48:47 PM
Only 12 points off top now, all to play for....
Arsenal have Manchester City at home next target to catch them?

QPR away next but if Arsenal come within single points of Man City or Man United it would be an excellent end to the season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 24, 2012, 11:49:08 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 24, 2012, 10:58:13 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 24, 2012, 10:40:35 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 24, 2012, 09:48:47 PM
Only 12 points off top now, all to play for....
Arsenal have Manchester City at home next target to catch them?

QPR away next but if Arsenal come within single points of Man City or Man United it would be an excellent end to the season.
Must be tempting to think what might have been? Have had some couple of months.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ballinaman on March 26, 2012, 12:26:13 PM
G'wan the Arse! :D

http://fuldans.se/?v=tpoljgeecn
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on March 26, 2012, 02:08:05 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 26, 2012, 12:26:13 PM
G'wan the Arse! :D

http://fuldans.se/?v=tpoljgeecn

Brilliant.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 26, 2012, 11:19:33 PM
Celebrating Eboue's transfer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 30, 2012, 08:42:35 PM
Was looking at the figures for this latest winning run (7).

It's right up there with the best of Arsenal teams which is quite bewildering as it's one of the worst Arsenal sides (in my opinion) since '96.

Arsenal's longest runs overall in top flight

Games    Date

14**    2002
10    1998
10    1987
9    2004
9    1971
8    2000
7*    2012
7    2007
7**    2004
7**    1968
7    1955

* = ongoing record.
** = record set over two seasons.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 30, 2012, 09:17:56 PM
Probably explained by saying this is one of the weakest Premier Leagues in quite some time. It would explain that run, how United are on top despite being at their weakest for some time and how the promoted sides are more than safe. The gap to the top clubs in the Championship is minimal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2012, 05:44:34 PM
Well feck that anyway.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 31, 2012, 05:47:39 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2012, 05:44:34 PM
Well feck that anyway.

Didn't deserve anything from that, TV5 had a mare and personally think Ramsey should be rested up, in awful form at the moment.

I would hate to be a fan of QPR, quite capable of getting up for the so called big clubs but not the lower table clubs, poor professionally attitude imho.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2012, 05:53:33 PM
Didn't see any of it Dinny and glad.

Some tough fixtures ahead.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: CorkMan on April 04, 2012, 08:14:31 PM
Yann M'Vila has said he would prefer to come to Arsenal than Inter or Real Madrid.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Minder on April 04, 2012, 08:28:36 PM
Quote from: CorkMan on April 04, 2012, 08:14:31 PM
Yann M'Vila has said he would prefer to come to Arsenal than Inter or Real Madrid.

Has he a history of substance abuse?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: EC Unique on April 04, 2012, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on March 30, 2012, 09:17:56 PM
Probably explained by saying this is one of the weakest Premier Leagues in quite some time. It would explain that run, how United are on top despite being at their weakest for some time and how the promoted sides are more than safe. The gap to the top clubs in the Championship is minimal.

Chelsea progressing nicely in the champions league but can't get into the top four of this weak premier league. Utd had a bad year in europe but were in 3 of the last four champion league finals.

I just don't buy this weak league fad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on April 04, 2012, 08:38:19 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 04, 2012, 08:28:36 PM
Quote from: CorkMan on April 04, 2012, 08:14:31 PM
Yann M'Vila has said he would prefer to come to Arsenal than Inter or Real Madrid.

Has he a history of substance abuse?

He said he loves the auld grass.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: CorkMan on April 04, 2012, 08:46:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on April 04, 2012, 08:28:36 PM
Quote from: CorkMan on April 04, 2012, 08:14:31 PM
Yann M'Vila has said he would prefer to come to Arsenal than Inter or Real Madrid.

Has he a history of substance abuse?

That's what I said when I heard.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 04, 2012, 08:56:28 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on April 04, 2012, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on March 30, 2012, 09:17:56 PM
Probably explained by saying this is one of the weakest Premier Leagues in quite some time. It would explain that run, how United are on top despite being at their weakest for some time and how the promoted sides are more than safe. The gap to the top clubs in the Championship is minimal.

Chelsea progressing nicely in the champions league but can't get into the top four of this weak premier league. Utd had a bad year in europe but were in 3 of the last four champion league finals.

I just don't buy this weak league fad.

Think your lost, close the door on your way out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: CorkMan on April 05, 2012, 12:52:47 PM
Wenger lining up a bid for Sigurdson according to The Sun.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4239541/Arsene-Wenger-is-lining-up-a-shock-summer-move-for-Swansea-goal-ace-Gylfi-Sigurdsson.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4239541/Arsene-Wenger-is-lining-up-a-shock-summer-move-for-Swansea-goal-ace-Gylfi-Sigurdsson.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 07, 2012, 12:32:16 PM
Didn't know that Mark Chamberlain was young Chamberlain's father.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on April 08, 2012, 04:29:59 PM
Good start and we nearly one up except for vermaelen
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on April 08, 2012, 05:50:40 PM
In the words of the mortal (thankfully) Piers Morgan....BBBooooommmm!

1-0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Gazzler on April 08, 2012, 05:57:31 PM
Where are the experts now who said Wenger was finished?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on April 08, 2012, 06:01:53 PM
Arsenal First XI: £45.55m. Man City Substitutes: £113.5m...The look on the Sheikhs face when Arteta scored #PRICELESS
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 08, 2012, 06:09:45 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on April 08, 2012, 05:57:31 PM
Where are the experts now who said Wenger was finished?
Hiding like the experts who said Manchester City would win the league.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: CorkMan on April 08, 2012, 06:49:02 PM
Jesus, if we made some decent signings we'd be genuine contenders for next seasons Premier League.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on April 08, 2012, 11:54:41 PM
Rodisky is begining to live up to his previous billing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 08, 2012, 11:57:48 PM
Rosicky has been one of the main reasons for the recent form. Simply can't understand what he was at before that.

Great win but wouldn't get carried away. City are in shite form and Spurs still have the better run-in. The Arsenal/Chelsea game looking pivotal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 09, 2012, 11:58:08 PM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/09/article-0-12878056000005DC-801_468x1565.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 10, 2012, 12:19:50 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/WEl5j.jpg)

8 points should clinch a UCL spot which would be quite remarkable especially when you consider 4 points form the first 5 games and maybe only Sagna of this Arsenal side would make it in a composite "Wenger's duration at Arsenal" XI

My own version of that would be

Seaman
Sagna
Adams
Toure
Cole
Pires
Viera
Fabregas
Overmars
Bergkamp
Henry

Bench

Lehmann
Dixon
Campbell
Petit
Ljungberg    
RVP
Anelka

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 10, 2012, 12:46:10 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 10, 2012, 12:19:50 PM

Seaman
Sagna
Adams
Toure
Cole
Pires
Viera
Fabregas
Overmars
Bergkamp
Henry

Bench

Lehmann
Dixon
Campbell
Petit
Ljungberg    
RVP
Anelka

I wouldn't be far off that either. Would probably have Campbell over Adams. I always liked Lauren too but Sagna offers more. Parlour would deserve a place on that bench - from 98-02 he was solid. Freddie v Overmars is tight but I suppose Marc was the extra ingredient that started the trophy haul. Wiltord was a handy player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 10, 2012, 01:57:29 PM
No bench spot for Ian Wright Wright Wright?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 10, 2012, 02:03:15 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 10, 2012, 01:57:29 PM
No bench spot for Ian Wright Wright Wright?

Forgot about Wrighty - yep even allowing for his personality disorder I'd have him on the bench ahead ahead of Anelka.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 10, 2012, 02:22:14 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 10, 2012, 02:03:15 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 10, 2012, 01:57:29 PM
No bench spot for Ian Wright Wright Wright?

Forgot about Wrighty - yep even allowing for his personality disorder I'd have him on the bench ahead ahead of Anelka.

That's a tight one. Wright only had one real season under Wenger.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on April 11, 2012, 07:58:36 PM
Cool pen my rvp, shoud be a easy 3 points now with wolves down to ten
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 11, 2012, 07:59:46 PM
2-0!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 11, 2012, 08:00:44 PM
Still think Walcott could have done better for his goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 11, 2012, 08:04:49 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 11, 2012, 08:00:44 PM
Still think Walcott could have done better for his goal.

Seemingly he is a w**ker too..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 11, 2012, 08:20:32 PM
Wally getting some abuse.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 11, 2012, 08:24:19 PM
RVP has scored 45 goals in his last 50 Premier League appearances
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on April 11, 2012, 08:33:06 PM
 if doyle keeps going the way he is it, could be nine men soon
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 11, 2012, 08:46:42 PM
Wish Arsenal would go for the jugular. Sitting on 2-0.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on April 11, 2012, 09:06:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 11, 2012, 08:46:42 PM
Wish Arsenal would go for the jugular. Sitting on 2-0.

To an Arsenal player the jugular is a fella who is good at keepie uppie.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 11, 2012, 09:07:04 PM
Two nil up, playing 10 men, Wolves collecting yellows like Panini cards and Arsenal on the back foot, bloody annoying...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 11, 2012, 09:11:25 PM
although not as annoying as Tony Gale..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 11, 2012, 09:15:13 PM
Up your hole Tony Gale

and that should be that..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on April 11, 2012, 09:17:19 PM
RVP Arsenal is only 27 goals behind City on goal difference.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 11, 2012, 10:49:43 PM
Spuds and Chelsea have their irons elsewhere this weekend. A chance for the Goons to stretch 8 ahead at home to Wigan on Monday. Then they've Chelsea at home.

Other clubs would mock this, but it'll feel like a trophy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 11, 2012, 11:04:42 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 11, 2012, 10:49:43 PM
Spuds and Chelsea have their irons elsewhere this weekend. A chance for the Goons to stretch 8 ahead at home to Wigan on Monday. Then they've Chelsea at home.

Other clubs would mock this, but it'll feel like a trophy.

Listen, credit to the Gunner Board, they stuck by their man, amongst the dirt press and Sky trying to get him sacked. They could have gone down the Wolves road and listened to the wrong voices.

Arsenal football club will finish this season with more credit for that stance, than they would have got for winning any trophy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 15, 2012, 11:57:33 PM
2 home games - Wigan tomorrow night and Chelsea early Saturday. Win those 2 and 3rd is in the bag.

Two tough games though. Wigan are probably the most in-form team in the lower half. Chelsea are starting to build a winning momentum.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 16, 2012, 08:09:52 PM
Arsenal 0 Wigan 2  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on April 16, 2012, 08:16:25 PM
from the time i leave the car to switching on the telly we are 2 nill down wtf
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 16, 2012, 08:23:03 PM
Goal for Arsenal game on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Radda bout yeee on April 16, 2012, 08:32:43 PM
Whose the Irish co commentator in arsenal game?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Declan on April 16, 2012, 08:34:21 PM
QuoteWhose the Irish co commentator in arsenal game?
Niall Quinn  -very enjoyable game so far
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: gerry on April 16, 2012, 08:36:30 PM
i see Quinn back managing again
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on April 16, 2012, 08:46:35 PM
Konscielny is a huge loss tonight. Santos is a chubby shite isn't he?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2012, 09:03:41 PM
Bit mad, Ted.

Rosicky is flying. Where's Wally?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Declan on April 16, 2012, 09:18:57 PM
First time I've watched McCarthy in a while - impressive game so far bar one mistake
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2012, 09:57:00 PM
Did I not like that.

Saturday morning crucial now. Wouldn't be overly confident after that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 16, 2012, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 15, 2012, 11:57:33 PM
2 home games - Wigan tomorrow night and Chelsea early Saturday. Win those 2 and 3rd is in the bag.

Two tough games though. Wigan are probably the most in-form team in the lower half. Chelsea are starting to build a winning momentum.

Damn you O'Neill
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Orangemac on April 16, 2012, 10:09:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 16, 2012, 09:57:00 PM
Did I not like that.

Saturday morning crucial now. Wouldn't be overly confident after that.
Chelsea will have a tough 90 mins chasing after Barca on Wed night which should make it a bit easier for Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on April 16, 2012, 10:09:41 PM
Wigan continued that good form with another deserved win. A Chelsea win on Saturday will make the race for CL spots very interesting.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: orangeman on April 16, 2012, 10:16:47 PM
Wigan are real battlers. Very hard to play against a team like that. They weren't going to be denied. They worked so hard it was incredible they were able to keep going to the end.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 16, 2012, 10:24:56 PM
Very tidy game by Wigan. McCarthy played well, kept plugging the space and held the ball well.
He plays mostly a holding role with Wigan but he's a natural box to box footballer.
Caldwell ?? who could have guessed there was a centre half underneath.
Looked bad form by Van Persie not to shake hands.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: orangeman on April 16, 2012, 10:29:01 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 16, 2012, 10:24:56 PM
Very tidy game by Wigan. McCarthy played well, kept plugging the space and held the ball well.
He plays mostly a holding role with Wigan but he's a natural box to box footballer.
Caldwell ?? who could have guessed there was a centre half underneath.
Looked bad form by Van Persie not to shake hands.

He did shake hands.

His right hand was sore - as was his pride.  :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Gaffer on April 16, 2012, 10:30:38 PM
I m for it now !

:-[ :-[ :-[

Did some slabbering to the Utd fans I know when Wigan nipped them.

Tin Hat time !!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: EC Unique on April 16, 2012, 10:46:33 PM
Would not rule spurs out of 3rd yet. Their bad run has to stop soon!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 16, 2012, 11:01:53 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on April 16, 2012, 10:46:33 PM
Would not rule spurs out of 3rd yet. Their bad run has to stop soon!

The Spuds are in free fall. Gas thing is that nearly all their games that are left are against relegation sides. Jez, i bet on Newcastle before them!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2012, 11:46:12 PM
Looks like Arteta's season is over. Arsenal need to fall over the line here. Will probably need favours elsewhere.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on April 17, 2012, 10:22:29 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 16, 2012, 11:01:53 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on April 16, 2012, 10:46:33 PM
Would not rule spurs out of 3rd yet. Their bad run has to stop soon!

The Spuds are in free fall. Gas thing is that nearly all their games that are left are against relegation sides. Jez, i bet on Newcastle before them!

They're the hardest games of all at this time of the season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2012, 02:57:05 PM
....falling over the line.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on April 21, 2012, 04:14:46 PM
I thought that was a decent game ...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2012, 04:20:49 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 21, 2012, 04:14:46 PM
I thought that was a decent game ...

I thought it awful and boring with both teams of giving away possession very easily.

Chelsea needed the win so surprised they were so defensive..

Interesting few weeks ahead but with Newcastle having to play Man City and Chelsea away Arsenal should finish top 4.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2012, 05:24:08 PM
The more I think about it, and especially if Spuds win later, that was a very bad result for Chelsea.

Arsenal have two away games at Stoke and WBA with a home game against Norwich sandwiched in between. Spurs have a decent run-in. Newcastle will be targeting the Chelsea game to forge a gap between them. Assuming Barca dump them out on Tues, it looks bleak for them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: EC Unique on April 21, 2012, 06:05:16 PM
If Chelsea stumble past barca they will be in with a good chance of winning the CL in which case 4th will not be needed!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on April 21, 2012, 06:59:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2012, 04:20:49 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 21, 2012, 04:14:46 PM
I thought that was a decent game ...

I thought it awful and boring with both teams of giving away possession very easily.

Chelsea needed the win so surprised they were so defensive..

Interesting few weeks ahead but with Newcastle having to play Man City and Chelsea away Arsenal should finish top 4.

Ah now, there was a bit of loose play from time to time, and there were few clear-cut chances, but both teams build-up play was quite good - Chelsea were hardly going to be razor-sharp with 8 changes from Wednesday.  I thought Gervinho was good when he came on, but Ramsey wasn't a great replacement for Arteta. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2012, 07:00:29 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on April 21, 2012, 06:05:16 PM
If Chelsea stumble past barca they will be in with a small chance of winning the CL in which case 4th will not be needed!

Corrected that for you, if the they somehow manage to get past Barca, they'll have to beat either the machine that is Madrid or Munich in Munich.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2012, 07:03:11 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 21, 2012, 06:59:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2012, 04:20:49 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 21, 2012, 04:14:46 PM
I thought that was a decent game ...

I thought it awful and boring with both teams of giving away possession very easily.

Chelsea needed the win so surprised they were so defensive..

Interesting few weeks ahead but with Newcastle having to play Man City and Chelsea away Arsenal should finish top 4.

Ah now, there was a bit of loose play from time to time, and there were few clear-cut chances, but both teams build-up play was quite good - Chelsea were hardly going to be razor-sharp with 8 changes from Wednesday.  I thought Gervinho was good when he came on, but Ramsey wasn't a great replacement for Arteta.

Gervinho was doing well until he went off to the ANC was much better today than last Monday against Wigan, Ramsey just needs a break, very long season for him considering his leg break.

Looks like the Russians are putting all their eggs in the UCL basket.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2012, 07:33:50 PM
Spuds are boiled.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2012, 11:37:17 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 21, 2012, 06:59:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 21, 2012, 04:20:49 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 21, 2012, 04:14:46 PM
I thought that was a decent game ...

I thought it awful and boring with both teams of giving away possession very easily.

Chelsea needed the win so surprised they were so defensive..

Interesting few weeks ahead but with Newcastle having to play Man City and Chelsea away Arsenal should finish top 4.

Ah now, there was a bit of loose play from time to time, and there were few clear-cut chances, but both teams build-up play was quite good - Chelsea were hardly going to be razor-sharp with 8 changes from Wednesday.  I thought Gervinho was good when he came on, but Ramsey wasn't a great replacement for Arteta.

Jeepers I thought it was a poor game. Arsenal were sluggish and Chelsea sent out a second string. Koscielny was tremendous.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on April 22, 2012, 04:17:09 PM
It's probably safe from morons to discuss it here - I thought Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea was a better game than Manure 4-4 Everton.  The defending in the latter was awful - Manure will come to realise they lost 2 points here by not showing Darron Gibson the respect he deserved; he ran the show in midfield for long periods.  Utd will come to woe the pitiful midfield they are currently fielding - depending on a self-retired 36-yr-old to drag them to respectability.  They would have lost today had Everton one defender in the class of Vermaelen, Koscielny, Cahill or Terry. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Orangemac on April 22, 2012, 04:36:24 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 22, 2012, 04:17:09 PM
It's probably safe from morons to discuss it here - I thought Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea was a better game than Manure 4-4 Everton.  The defending in the latter was awful - Manure will come to realise they lost 2 points here by not showing Darron Gibson the respect he deserved; he ran the show in midfield for long periods.  Utd will come to woe the pitiful midfield they are currently fielding - depending on a self-retired 36-yr-old to drag them to respectability.  They would have lost today had Everton one defender in the class of Vermaelen, Koscielny, Cahill or Terry.
Is this the same Koscielny who cost Arsenal the league cup last year and helped keep Utd to 8 goals earlier in the season? I'll keep Jagileka,Heitinga and Distin ( mistake last week aside).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 22, 2012, 04:40:39 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 22, 2012, 04:17:09 PM
I thought Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea was a better game than Manure 4-4 Everton. 

You still have pics of George Graham's 91 side on your wall don't you.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on April 22, 2012, 04:46:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 22, 2012, 04:40:39 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 22, 2012, 04:17:09 PM
I thought Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea was a better game than Manure 4-4 Everton. 

You still have pics of George Graham's 91 side on your wall don't you.

(http://www.epltalk.com/media/2008/11/fullmonty.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Gaffer on April 22, 2012, 04:50:03 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 22, 2012, 04:46:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 22, 2012, 04:40:39 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 22, 2012, 04:17:09 PM
I thought Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea was a better game than Manure 4-4 Everton. 

You still have pics of George Graham's 91 side on your wall don't you.

(http://www.epltalk.com/media/2008/11/fullmonty.jpg)


OFFSIDE !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on April 22, 2012, 06:00:31 PM
Yes, hilarious.  Georgie Graham's teams didn't defend so much as refuse to attack (in a structured way), so I have no admiration for that kind of display. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on April 22, 2012, 06:01:35 PM
Quote from: Orangemac on April 22, 2012, 04:36:24 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 22, 2012, 04:17:09 PM
It's probably safe from morons to discuss it here - I thought Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea was a better game than Manure 4-4 Everton.  The defending in the latter was awful - Manure will come to realise they lost 2 points here by not showing Darron Gibson the respect he deserved; he ran the show in midfield for long periods.  Utd will come to woe the pitiful midfield they are currently fielding - depending on a self-retired 36-yr-old to drag them to respectability.  They would have lost today had Everton one defender in the class of Vermaelen, Koscielny, Cahill or Terry.
Is this the same Koscielny who cost Arsenal the league cup last year and helped keep Utd to 8 goals earlier in the season? I'll keep Jagileka,Heitinga and Distin ( mistake last week aside).

I wasn't proposing to take them off you. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ross4life on April 22, 2012, 06:40:35 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on April 22, 2012, 04:17:09 PM
It's probably safe from morons to discuss it here - I thought Arsenal 0-0 Chelsea was a better game than Manure 4-4 Everton.  The defending in the latter was awful - Manure will come to realise they lost 2 points here by not showing Darron Gibson the respect he deserved; he ran the show in midfield for long periods.  Utd will come to woe the pitiful midfield they are currently fielding - depending on a self-retired 36-yr-old to drag them to respectability.  They would have lost today had Everton one defender in the class of Vermaelen, Koscielny, Cahill or Terry.
Written from the passion of true Leeds United supporter.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Puckoon on April 23, 2012, 12:12:15 AM
Koncielny is fast becoming the most important defensive player at the Emirates.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Declan on April 23, 2012, 01:59:17 PM
Good man Billy - You'll educate them yet!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 28, 2012, 05:02:02 PM
Still stumbling.

Looks like no one wants that Champions' League place(s).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: centre 3/4s on April 30, 2012, 11:20:03 AM
Holy sh*t just read that Diaby pulled his calf muscle on saturday, I honestly think he is taking the piss now out of us.. Time to ship him out at least dick turpin wore a mask ffs!!!! When he is hobbling out the door i hope he takes Gervinho, Djourou, and Schillatchi with him!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 30, 2012, 02:11:19 PM
Good signing for ye Gooners I think.


QuoteLukas Podolski to sign for Arsenal: "The move to Arsenal provides a great opportunity for me to gain experience in international competitions at a top European club.

"I have made this decision not against FC Cologne but for this great opportunity and the good of my own individual development. This was not an easy decision for me at all, as Cologne, our fans and the city are something special for me. I will always carry FC Cologne in my heart. We need to pool our strengths now and have to be fully focused on our survival in the Bundesliga."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 30, 2012, 10:37:04 PM
This is a great chance for Arsenal to sneak in and lift the title.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 02, 2012, 09:49:05 PM
3   Arsenal   P36   GD24   PTS66
4   Tottenham   P36   GD22   PTS65
5   Newcastle   P36   GD9   PTS65

Arsenal fans worried?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on May 02, 2012, 10:13:07 PM
Why would they be?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Minder on May 02, 2012, 10:20:54 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 02, 2012, 09:49:05 PM
3   Arsenal   P36   GD24   PTS66
4   Tottenham   P36   GD22   PTS65
5   Newcastle   P36   GD9   PTS65

Arsenal fans worried?

Norwich at home and West Brom away, I am sure they are shitting it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on May 02, 2012, 10:24:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 02, 2012, 10:20:54 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 02, 2012, 09:49:05 PM
3   Arsenal   P36   GD24   PTS66
4   Tottenham   P36   GD22   PTS65
5   Newcastle   P36   GD9   PTS65

Arsenal fans worried?

Norwich at home and West Brom away, I am sure they are shitting it.

Agreed, both mid-table teams with nothing to play for.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 02, 2012, 10:27:25 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 02, 2012, 10:20:54 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 02, 2012, 09:49:05 PM
3   Arsenal   P36   GD24   PTS66
4   Tottenham   P36   GD22   PTS65
5   Newcastle   P36   GD9   PTS65

Arsenal fans worried?

Norwich at home and West Brom away, I am sure they are shitting it.
Roy Hodgson will want to go out on high.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 02, 2012, 10:33:18 PM
Sorta hoping it'll be done and dusted on Sunday night. Spuds away to a Villa fighting for their lives. Newc v Man City.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on May 02, 2012, 10:38:40 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 02, 2012, 10:33:18 PM
Sorta hoping it'll be done and dusted on Sunday night. Spuds away to a Villa Vile fighting for their lives. Newc v Man City.

I hope they help to send them down.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2012, 11:53:41 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 02, 2012, 10:33:18 PM
Sorta hoping it'll be done and dusted on Sunday night. Spuds away to a Villa fighting for their lives. Newc v Man City.

Looks like a draw at best for Newcastle but I'd fancy the Spuds to beat Villa, Villa have just been dire.

Still if Arsenal can't beat two mid-table teams more worried about the beach then they deserve not to be in the UCL and ironically enough it they weren't in the UCL next season could be their best chance yet in recent years of winning the PL, they just don't have the squad to compete on both fronts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 03, 2012, 11:56:39 AM
Careful Dinny, that's almost Liverpool-esque delusion :) Most of Arsenal's cat, cat form this year came before the CL started or after they were knocked out didn't it?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2012, 12:20:16 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 03, 2012, 11:56:39 AM
Careful Dinny, that's almost Liverpool-esque delusion :) Most of Arsenal's cat, cat form this year came before the CL started or after they were knocked out didn't it?

Yea probably is but we'll see...

Arsenal had two blips - start of the season 7 points in 7 games and post Christmas with 5 points in 5 games - of course they would play Man United in those 2 spells

Both blips highlight how fragile Arsenals squad is as they came when games were coming thick and fast.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 03, 2012, 05:40:47 PM
Possibly in the midst of a third blip - 2 pts from 3 games.

Mad season. The crappiest Arsenal side in recent years but on ther verge of a higher finish. Somehow, a c**k-up v WBA (or Norwich) seems apt.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: GAA_Talk on May 03, 2012, 07:47:05 PM
Lucas Podolski said he moved to Arsenal to win trophies. And they say the Germans don't have a good sense of humour. :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on May 05, 2012, 02:01:19 PM
2-1 To Nowich could be a great result for Spurs and Newcastle fans if is stays like this
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 05, 2012, 02:01:47 PM
Capitulation?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on May 05, 2012, 02:03:16 PM
Its been a funny auld season no one seems to want to win the league or qualify for the champions league.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 05, 2012, 02:13:41 PM
Part of me wants this to happen.

I'm sick.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on May 05, 2012, 02:18:36 PM
2-2 Van Persie appears to be a cracker of a game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on May 05, 2012, 02:26:50 PM
van persie again 3-2
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: The Worker on May 05, 2012, 02:27:00 PM
god bless rvp.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on May 05, 2012, 02:28:49 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 05, 2012, 02:26:50 PM
van persie again 3-2

this would not be a great result for spurs or newcastle fans if it stays like this
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Minder on May 05, 2012, 02:32:40 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on May 05, 2012, 02:28:49 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 05, 2012, 02:26:50 PM
van persie again 3-2

this would not be a great result for spurs or newcastle fans if it stays like this

3-3
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 05, 2012, 03:28:28 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 05, 2012, 02:32:40 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on May 05, 2012, 02:28:49 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 05, 2012, 02:26:50 PM
van persie again 3-2

this would not be a great result for spurs or newcastle fans if it stays like this

3-3
Any chink of light for Newcastle could spell disaster against City.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 05, 2012, 03:29:19 PM
f**k I hate arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 05, 2012, 08:59:25 PM
They deserve everything they get. Spurs and Newcastle have shown more guts and deserve to be higher placed than Arsenal. One man carried the Gunners all season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 05, 2012, 09:15:39 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 05, 2012, 08:59:25 PM
They deserve everything they get. Spurs and Newcastle have shown more guts and deserve to be higher placed than Arsenal. One man carried the Gunners all season.
Fucked when thon boy leaves.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 06, 2012, 09:25:06 AM
Still fairly angry at that performance yesterday and, although you always want them to finish in the highest position possible, a 4th or 5th place below Spurs is what they deserve. They were complacent, unorganised and tactically clueless. Wenger came out with the same guff about underestimating or subconsciously thinking it'd be easy. That's his fault, not the team's. It was a miracle that Arsenal got themselves into position to finish 3rd in the first place. They had a run of jammy results and RVP netting everything that sniffed.

Although you hope Villa get a point today, I also can't help but feel it'll let a team off the hook that needs to be taught a lesson. That was the last home game yet Song and Ramsey strolled through it thinking it was only a matter of time before they cut loose. A Fergie side would never have that attitude. Or Pulis, Hughes, Moyes.

They don't deserve to add to the 18 years of finishing above Spurs. They were great teams.

Up the Villa (sort of).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on May 06, 2012, 09:44:39 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 06, 2012, 09:25:06 AM
Still fairly angry at that performance yesterday and, although you always want them to finish in the highest position possible, a 4th or 5th place below Spurs is what they deserve. They were complacent, unorganised and tactically clueless. Wenger came out with the same guff about underestimating or subconsciously thinking it'd be easy. That's his fault, not the team's. It was a miracle that Arsenal got themselves into position to finish 3rd in the first place. They had a run of jammy results and RVP netting everything that sniffed.

Although you hope Villa get a point today, I also can't help but feel it'll let a team off the hook that needs to be taught a lesson. That was the last home game yet Song and Ramsey strolled through it thinking it was only a matter of time before they cut loose. A Fergie side would never have that attitude. Or Pulis, Hughes, Moyes.

They don't deserve to add to the 18 years of finishing above Spurs. They were great teams.

Up the Villa Vile (sort of).
FFS ONeill.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on May 06, 2012, 01:46:38 PM
I don't think Wenger is getting the best out of that squad - never thought I'd hear myself saying that.  I'd imagine that knowing the high standards he sets for himself and the team's performance, he will be on a self-imposed way out this summer. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2012, 04:56:55 PM
Arsenal qualifying for the UCL would be a joke and probably the worst thing that could happen for them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 06, 2012, 05:01:56 PM
What a great point that was yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2012, 05:07:42 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 06, 2012, 05:01:56 PM
What a great point that was yesterday.

Is that you Arsene? How have you let such mentally weak players still play for Arsenal, it's a long time since I was so disgusted with 2 players performances as I was yesterday with Song and Ramsey.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2012, 06:42:08 PM
Arsenal and Spurs are having some kind of existentialist season run-in:

"Do we want third? What does 'third' even mean?"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 06, 2012, 06:48:18 PM
(https://p.twimg.com/AsN3mBxCEAEYmoB.jpg:large)

Arsene prepares for next week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: muppet on May 06, 2012, 07:19:11 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 06, 2012, 06:48:18 PM
(https://p.twimg.com/AsN3mBxCEAEYmoB.jpg:large)

Arsene prepares for next week.

And my entrée: Turd Plaice over choked spud.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: centre 3/4s on May 06, 2012, 08:48:03 PM
I am a wenger supporter and honestly believe he has the best interests of the club at heart but if we don't finish 3rd i think it is time the great man moved aside. He has been brilliant for this club and i honestly believe that the players are much more to blame than Arsene but the buck does stop with him and he did sign all the goats.. Ramsey, Djourou, Schillachi, Chamack, Santos, to name a few. All those and a few others need to be shipped out if we are serious about competing at the highest level
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Main Street on May 06, 2012, 10:04:03 PM
3rd place is wrap, you backsliders  ;D

Where's your backbone?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 06, 2012, 10:53:54 PM
Quote from: centre 3/4s on May 06, 2012, 08:48:03 PM
I am a wenger supporter and honestly believe he has the best interests of the club at heart but if we don't finish 3rd i think it is time the great man moved aside. He has been brilliant for this club and i honestly believe that the players are much more to blame than Arsene but the buck does stop with him and he did sign all the goats.. Ramsey, Djourou, Schillachi, Chamack, Santos, to name a few. All those and a few others need to be shipped out if we are serious about competing at the highest level

It depends what the club want. If they're happy with jockeying for a CL place every year whilst not forking out too much in the transfer market then Wenger's the man. He's the master at that. If they're after a league title forget it. Whe France were in the top 2 in the world Arsenal were flying. Outside of Zidane, he could persuade any member of that team to join Highbury. And they were damn brilliant players. He still likes to dabble in the French market or league. Now Arsenal have Diaby, Sagna, Koscielny, Squillaci, Coquelin whilst picking up the likes of Gervinho, Park and Chamakh from the French league. Second rate players he cannot turn to gold.

I'm still convinced that his memoirs will reveal how tight the purse was since the new stadium was mooted.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 07, 2012, 12:17:10 AM
Maybe it's a maturer.

(https://p.twimg.com/AsP1z9MCAAASMf5.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Declan on May 10, 2012, 01:36:58 PM
http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/sport/rice-to-leave-arsenal-3104215.html (http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/sport/rice-to-leave-arsenal-3104215.html)

Good servant
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on May 10, 2012, 01:57:39 PM
A forerunner to Wenger's departure??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 10, 2012, 02:06:44 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on May 10, 2012, 01:57:39 PM
A forerunner to Wenger's departure??

Na he was suppose to go last season but Wenger persuaded him to hang on. Steve Bould will be the new number 2 so expect plenty of red cards for the Gonners next season, from players going straight through the back legs of the opposition.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on May 10, 2012, 02:27:09 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 10, 2012, 02:06:44 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on May 10, 2012, 01:57:39 PM
A forerunner to Wenger's departure??

Na he was suppose to go last season but Wenger persuaded him to hang on. Steve Bould will be the new number 2 so expect plenty of red cards for the Gonners next season, from players going straight through the back legs of the opposition.

That'll be a pleasant change!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on May 10, 2012, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: Declan on May 10, 2012, 01:36:58 PM
http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/sport/rice-to-leave-arsenal-3104215.html (http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/sport/rice-to-leave-arsenal-3104215.html)

Good servant

A Throwback, I mean that in a positive way. Arsenal have had some loyal servants over the years but I think Rice has been the best of the lot. How many Irishmen were in that famous Arsenal team of the 70's? Best of luck to him in his retirement.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on May 10, 2012, 02:32:39 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on May 10, 2012, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: Declan on May 10, 2012, 01:36:58 PM
http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/sport/rice-to-leave-arsenal-3104215.html (http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/sport/rice-to-leave-arsenal-3104215.html)

Good servant

A Throwback, I mean that in a positive way. Arsenal have had some loyal servants over the years but I think Rice has been the best of the lot. How many Irishmen were in that famous Arsenal team of the 70's? Best of luck to him in his retirement.

Jennings, Rice, Nelson, O'Leary, Brady & Stapleton.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Declan on May 10, 2012, 02:42:48 PM
QuoteO'Leary, Brady & Stapleton.

and Johhny Murphy!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 10, 2012, 02:45:10 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on May 10, 2012, 02:32:39 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on May 10, 2012, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: Declan on May 10, 2012, 01:36:58 PM
http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/sport/rice-to-leave-arsenal-3104215.html (http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/sport/rice-to-leave-arsenal-3104215.html)

Good servant

A Throwback, I mean that in a positive way. Arsenal have had some loyal servants over the years but I think Rice has been the best of the lot. How many Irishmen were in that famous Arsenal team of the 70's? Best of luck to him in his retirement.

Jennings, Rice, Nelson, O'Leary, Brady & Stapleton.

I have a birthday card from the early 80s that John Devine sent over with most of their autographs. A good memory.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on May 10, 2012, 03:21:36 PM
I've just googled that team and for the life of me I can't remember David Price. :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Gaffer on May 11, 2012, 07:07:41 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on May 10, 2012, 03:21:36 PM
I've just googled that team and for the life of me I can't remember David Price. :o

Blond haired geezer. Midfield, Wore number 4
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Gazzler on May 11, 2012, 07:17:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiYt3iNWau0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on May 11, 2012, 07:59:24 PM
I would have put it in the top 20 of all time if wasn't for who he beat!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 11, 2012, 09:45:48 PM
Well, what's the predictions?

WBA 2 Arsenal 1
Spuds 1 Fulham 1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Anders Limpar on May 13, 2012, 12:56:21 AM
Doubt remains if this team can be trusted.  Haven't won a game all season without Arteta and that's because nobody sits when Song goes on those marauding runs.  Need to win this one as surely the Spuds won't slip up again.  Let's hope the tiny tots have another dodgy pre-match lasagne! ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ardchieftain on May 13, 2012, 02:57:30 AM
I have wagered on both the arse and the yids to win, newcastle supporters can pm me for my bank details
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Gaffer on May 13, 2012, 03:01:32 AM
C'mon lads. Just win this one without too much fuss. You are well capable.

Just don't be  giving me heart attacks FFS.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 13, 2012, 01:33:25 PM
WBA 2-2 The Arsenal
Spuds 2-0 Fulham
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 13, 2012, 01:38:57 PM
I think the blow of finishing below Spurs (if it happens) is cushioned by the fact that they deserve to be. The attitude of some of the players in recent games makes it hard to will them to achieve over and beyond what should be theirs.

All the same, St Totteringham's Day is nice.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 13, 2012, 02:45:01 PM
Szczesny, Jenkinson, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Santos, Song, Coquelin, Rosicky, Gervinho, Benayoun, Van Persie

There's a title winning side....gulp!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 13, 2012, 03:22:40 PM
Not going so well for Arsenal at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 13, 2012, 03:38:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 13, 2012, 01:33:25 PM
WBA 2-2 The Arsenal
Spuds 2-0 Fulham

Looking good.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 13, 2012, 04:13:53 PM
That WBA goalie must be on the take...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 13, 2012, 04:36:47 PM
Surely they'll c**k it up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 13, 2012, 05:00:01 PM
They did their best, how the f**k did that team finish 3rd. Some achievement from Wenger...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Agent Orange on May 13, 2012, 05:01:27 PM
Happy St. Totteringhams day. Later than usual, but well worth the wait.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 13, 2012, 05:01:55 PM
Van the Man grabbed them by the scruff when they were drowning.

Happy St Totteringham's Day.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 13, 2012, 05:04:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 13, 2012, 05:01:55 PM
Van the Man grabbed them by the scruff when they were drowning.

Happy St Totteringham's Day.

Happy St Totteringham's Day indeed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Main Street on May 13, 2012, 05:14:05 PM
Well done to Wenger for guiding his team to a credible 3rd place .
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Minder on May 13, 2012, 06:04:45 PM
Sounds ominous from RVP
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: EC Unique on May 13, 2012, 06:28:00 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 13, 2012, 06:04:45 PM
Sounds ominous from RVP

Missed it. What did he say? Fair well?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Minder on May 13, 2012, 06:30:05 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 13, 2012, 06:28:00 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 13, 2012, 06:04:45 PM
Sounds ominous from RVP

Missed it. What did he say? Fair well?

He was asked would his future be sorted out quickly and he said -

"You never know. #AFC is a massive club, a great club. I have been playing here for eight years and I love this club. Whatever happens that will never change."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: norabeag on May 13, 2012, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on May 13, 2012, 06:28:00 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 13, 2012, 06:04:45 PM
Sounds ominous from RVP

Missed it. What did he say? Fair well?
No says he is moving to a much better place and will sign for Liverpool but only if they widen the goals as apparently the post was hit 40 times this year.  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 13, 2012, 11:25:18 PM
Had them wrote off at Xmas and Dinny set everyone straight. Up the Arse.

If they kept RVP and had Podolsky they'd give it a lash next season. Still suspect at the back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 14, 2012, 12:11:55 AM
Far too suspect at the back and worryingly Vermaelan seemed to be rocking as the season ended. 49 league goals conceded this season. That tally seems to be rising by the year. I just cannot see how that defensive squad could ever shore up. The reinforcements this year were dubious. Santos is no defender. Mertesecker - 50/50. Jenkinson. Szczesney started to wobble too but I'm fine with him. I'll never be convinced by Gibbs.

There's enough talent in midfield and attack to challenge but only if the back 4 can offer some kind of encouragement. A good defensive midfielder would help. I see Gattuso's available.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 14, 2012, 12:19:00 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 14, 2012, 12:11:55 AM
Far too suspect at the back and worryingly Vermaelan seemed to be rocking as the season ended. 49 league goals conceded this season. That tally seems to be rising by the year. I just cannot see how that defensive squad could ever shore up. The reinforcements this year were dubious. Santos is no defender. Mertesecker - 50/50. Jenkinson. Szczesney started to wobble too but I'm fine with him. I'll never be convinced by Gibbs.

There's enough talent in midfield and attack to challenge but only if the back 4 can offer some kind of encouragement. A good defensive midfielder would help. I see Gattuso's available.
Ten years ago it would have been half that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 14, 2012, 07:52:30 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 14, 2012, 12:11:55 AM
Far too suspect at the back and worryingly Vermaelan seemed to be rocking as the season ended. 49 league goals conceded this season. That tally seems to be rising by the year. I just cannot see how that defensive squad could ever shore up. The reinforcements this year were dubious. Santos is no defender. Mertesecker - 50/50. Jenkinson. Szczesney started to wobble too but I'm fine with him. I'll never be convinced by Gibbs.

There's enough talent in midfield and attack to challenge but only if the back 4 can offer some kind of encouragement. A good defensive midfielder would help. I see Gattuso's available.

Arsenal use to have a great defensive record under Wenger including once only conceding 17 goals in an EPL season, the personal has changed though so hopefully Steve Bould will be giving the responsibility of sorting it out once and for all but I have too have doubts over Santos and TV5 but conversely think Mertesecker and Gibbs are good defenders but Jenkinson and Kos have serious positional sense issues that needs to addressed. Song I think is the root of Arsenal's recent blip, he bloody thinks he's Xavi and Makelele rolled into one and his lack of defensive discipline is shocking especially without Arteta along side him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Ladies Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 14, 2012, 08:03:57 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 13, 2012, 11:25:18 PM
Had them wrote off at Xmas and Dinny set everyone straight. Up the Arse.

If they kept RVP and had Podolsky they'd give it a lash next season. Still suspect at the back.

Na I can be just as delusional as a Liverpool supporter.

The continuous anti-Wenger and Arsenal in crisis copy just aggravated as it was all just based on subjective opinion and not fact and people just seemed to base their opinions on this.

So the worst Arsenal side of the Wenger era finished ahead of the best Spurs side in recent memory, a rejuvenated Liverpool under KK and the billions of Chelsea, go figure. Somehow it will still be Arsenal in crisis come the summer and I see the RVP will he won't has already started.

If it was me I'd sell him, the Euro's will kn**ker him....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 14, 2012, 10:57:48 PM
ONeill when things aren't going The Gooners way!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IoxJXqWAG4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IoxJXqWAG4&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on May 18, 2012, 09:26:56 AM
Disaster looming -


Robin van Persie has made it clear that he is not willing to sign a new contract in the immediate future, sparking fears that Arsenal are facing yet another damaging summer transfer saga.

Arsenal had hoped to resolve Van Persie's future before Euro 2012 but a meeting involving Arsene Wenger and chief executive Ivan Gazidis provided limited encouragement.

It is understood Van Persie, who yesterday joined up with the Holland squad, made it known he was not currently prepared to commit his long-term future to the club. Manchester City and Juventus are both closely monitoring the situation and there is now a mounting sense that Van Persie is waiting to see what options emerge and how the transfer window unfolds. Juventus are prepared to at least match Arsenal's offer of around £130,000-a-week but Manchester City could pay well in excess of £200,000-a-week.

Van Persie has not said he wants to leave but, with only one year left on his contract, he is in a strong position. Arsenal have indicated they would be prepared to hold Van Persie to his contract for one more season, even if that meant losing him for nothing next year. However, they did also make the same threat last year to Samir Nasri before accepting £24m from City.

There is now a private acceptance at Arsenal that the Van Persie situation is unlikely to be swiftly resolved, with Patrick Vieira, their former captain, yesterday questioning his old club's strategy.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: centre 3/4s on May 18, 2012, 12:48:43 PM
Thought all this transfer and contract sh*te was going to be sorted out before the Euro's? A case of deja vu here looming as was the case with Fabregas and Nasri waiting till the season was upon us again to piss off.... If he wants to go let him run on and we will take as much as we can get for him, after all he has had one good season. I think people tend to forget that he is injury prone and hardly kicked a descent ball for us in the past 3 or 4 years yet when his contract is coming to an end he can seem to play through the pain barrier, f**king mercenary if ye ask me. Yes he is a good striker and has been scoring a few goals this year but he will get his nose out of joint if he stays because Podolski will be the main man and VP will be playing second fiddle
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 18, 2012, 11:03:55 PM
Ach let him go if he wants to. He hasn't all that long left and if he wants to experience a medal or two and Arsenal cannot match that ambition then good luck to him.

As for Podolski - I wouldn't get too excited by him. Average club stats. Munich let him go a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on June 09, 2012, 06:59:32 PM
Decent result/performance there.
Might get a lock of shillings for Nicklas too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 04, 2012, 05:29:35 PM
QuoteThis is an update for the fans about my current situation. I have kept quiet all this time out of respect and loyalty for the club and as agreed with Mr. Gazidis and Mr. Wenger, but since there is so much speculation in the media, I think it is fair for you guys to know what's really going on at the moment.

    As announced earlier this year I had a meeting with the Boss and Mr. Gazidis after the season. This was a meeting about the club's future strategy and their policy. Financial terms or a contract have not been discussed, since that is not my priority at all.

    I personally have had a great season but my goal has been to win trophies with the team and to bring the club back to its glory days. Out of my huge respect for Mr. Wenger, the players and the fans I don't want to go into any details, but unfortunately in this meeting it has again become clear to me that we in many aspects disagree on the way Arsenal FC should move forward.

    I've thought long and hard about it, but I have decided not to extend my contract. You guys, the fans, have of course the right to disagree with my view and decision and I will always respect your opinions.

    I love the club and the fans, no matter what happens. I have grown up and became a man during my time with Arsenal FC. Everybody at the club and the fans have always supported me over the years and I have always given my all (and more) on and off the pitch. I am very proud of being part of this fantastic club for the last 8 years.

    As soon as Mr. Gazidis is back from his 2-week holiday in America further meetings will follow and I will update you if and when there are more developments.

    Robin van Persie

Ah feck it anyway, if anyone asks I'm now from Kerry raised in New Zealand and support Man United.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 05:35:33 PM
Not a worry. Sure isn't Bendtner still at the club.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 04, 2012, 05:42:47 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 05:35:33 PM
Not a worry. Sure isn't Bendtner still at the club.

Not for much longer, there's rumours of swap deal from Barca, Messi + 10m cash...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 05:47:32 PM
He's seen who Arsene got in and thought feck this for a game of cricket. If only they'd gone for Defoe, Walker, Parker and Kaboul.

Here's hoping that the EPL is shite enough for Podolski to net 30 goals.

Any chance this is a warning shot to Wenger to up his targets in the next month?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Worker on July 04, 2012, 05:50:37 PM
Spurs in for van persie apparently
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Evil Genius on July 04, 2012, 07:13:17 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 05:47:32 PMHe's seen who Arsene got in and thought feck this for a game of cricket. If only they'd gone for Defoe, Walker, Parker and Kaboul.
You know things are grim when the best (only?) consolation for the loss of your star player is a silly dig at your rivals...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 07:16:48 PM
Arsenal hit back. They expect him to stick it out for another season.

Quote from: Evil Genius on July 04, 2012, 07:13:17 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 05:47:32 PMHe's seen who Arsene got in and thought feck this for a game of cricket. If only they'd gone for Defoe, Walker, Parker and Kaboul.
You know things are grim when the best (only?) consolation for the loss of your star player is a silly dig at your rivals...

You kill me. "Rivals". Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on July 04, 2012, 07:19:20 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 04, 2012, 07:18:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 07:16:48 PM
Arsenal hit back. They expect him to stick it out for another season.
Quote from: Evil Genius on July 04, 2012, 07:13:17 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 05:47:32 PMHe's seen who Arsene got in and thought feck this for a game of cricket. If only they'd gone for Defoe, Walker, Parker and Kaboul.
You know things are grim when the best (only?) consolation for the loss of your star player is a silly dig at your rivals...


You kill me. "Rivals". Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Where you haer this???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 07:26:09 PM
Club statement: Robin van Persie


Arsenal Football Club has issued the following statement with regard to Robin van Persie's future:

"

We have to respect Robin's decision not to renew his contract. Robin has one year to run on his current contract and we are confident that he will fulfil his commitments to the Club.

"We are planning with ambition and confidence for next season with Arsenal's best interests in mind."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on July 04, 2012, 07:39:11 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 07:26:09 PM
Club statement: Robin van Persie


Arsenal Football Club has issued the following statement with regard to Robin van Persie's future:

"

We have to respect Robin's decision not to renew his contract. Robin has one year to run on his current contract and we are confident that he will fulfil his commitments to the Club.

"We are planning with ambition and confidence for next season with Arsenal's best interests in mind."

Interesting quote there. I've thought for a while now that they will keep him until Jan then sell to Juve!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 04, 2012, 08:26:09 PM
That would mess up the CL value then. I thought it was a damage limitation quote from Arsenal - making interested clubs up their fee in order to 'prize' him away.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on July 04, 2012, 09:15:10 PM
Yeah read a few blogs and a similar statement was released prior to Nasri being sold last year.

Got this from Arseblog. Take it they are referring to City!

It is reported that the club had no idea van Persie was releasing a statement today and were rather blindsided by the captain's online declaration which was drafted for him by lawyers and agents.

What could have been a civilised, if difficult, situation now looks as if it's going to get nasty as speculation over the need to release such a divisive statement mounts. Will this make the club dig their heels in and hold him to his final year or will the remarks about the 'fundamental disagreements' mean van Persie's position becomes untenable?
It seems a real shame that Robin, who claims to love the club and care for the fans, has gone about this in such a disrespectful manner, and it looks as if the reason behind it is to force a move to a club that he couldn't go to without a fight. And I think we all know which club that is.

Meanwhile, Mark Gonnella, the club's Director of Communications, has denied that Ivan Gazidis is away on two weeks holiday, saying, "Ivan is not on a two week holiday. Such things do not exist for Chief Executives at football clubs or anywhere else."
So you'd have to ask why van Persie made reference to that in his statement, if not to cause trouble.
What a shame this all is
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 23, 2012, 07:35:46 PM
Well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 23, 2012, 08:15:29 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 23, 2012, 07:35:46 PM
Well.

(http://www.hauntedattraction.com/wp-content/files_flutter/1303228312thering_well-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on August 01, 2012, 03:19:09 PM
Santi Cazorla due in Llondon to finalise his transfer to Arsenal in the next 48 hours.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 01, 2012, 03:45:51 PM
All our Christmases coming at once...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 07, 2012, 12:10:41 AM
No craic in here, we're missing Muppets positive outlook on life..

So anyone know much about this Cazrola fella, rated pretty highly..

Wry smile Twitter offerings..

So Arsenal will have signed Podolski, Giroud and Cazrola for the same price as Andy Carroll - Ladies and Gentleman I give you Arsene Wenger..

Cazorla, Podolski and Giroud = 155 caps, £35m. Downing, Carroll and Henderson = 46 caps, £70m.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 07, 2012, 12:19:21 AM
Chim chiminy chim chiminy chim chim cheroo
Who needs Van Persie when we've got Giroud.

So, Corporal Jenkinson says there's a plan B this year. He's gonna hit the wings and cross her in.
Chesney says some great work is being done in defence during pre-season.

Humph. Trying to see some positives.

Wilshere still months away. Ramsey has stalled badly. Walcott wants out.

Low expectations this year. The board seems edgy too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 07, 2012, 11:33:37 AM
QuoteHumph. Trying to see some positives.

Cazrola made the Guardian European Team of the Year and they had this to say about him

Possibly the signing of the season, despite the significant transfer fee. Cazorla swapped Villarreal for Málaga – and as Villarreal went from 4th to 18th, Málaga went from 11th to 4th. He's not the only reason, of course, as Málaga have shelled out other star names, but his consistency over the course of the season has been highly commendable. He's not particularly fast and doesn't score many goals from open play, but his positioning and movement marks him out as one of the most intelligent players around – he's selfless and precise with his passing, and also one of the best free-kick takers in Europe.

Giroud and Podolski are also positive signings, Gervinho will be much better this year, Vermaelen will be fit for the start of the season, Chesney has another years experience under his belt and Wilshere will return before Christmas and RVP hasn't even left yet. Pretty confident the Gooners will be top 3 and might actually challenge Man City for title for longer than normal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on August 11, 2012, 09:48:39 AM
A proper high profile signing for Arsenal at last maybe?

http://www.metro.co.uk/olympics/908145-arsenal-ladies-consider-bid-for-olympic-boxing-champion-katie-taylor#ixzz23A1PPHhi
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 12, 2012, 03:56:25 PM
Mannone, Yennaris, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Gibbs, Coquelin, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Cazorla, Walcott, Giroud, Podolski

In a few mins v Cologne. RVP on bench.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on August 14, 2012, 11:46:50 AM
Any truth in the rumour that Arsenal Ladies have made overtures to Katie Taylor to join them?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 14, 2012, 11:56:16 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on August 14, 2012, 11:46:50 AM
Any truth in the rumour that Arsenal Ladies have made overtures to Katie Taylor to join them?

That seemed to be the considered opinion of the boxing pundits on RTE.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: supersarsfields on August 14, 2012, 12:04:09 PM
Not sure about Arsenal, But Mr Stallone has said he would love to make a movie from Katie's story.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2012, 12:46:28 AM
AN interesting breakdown of Arsenal's injury enigma -here (http://www.arsenalreport.com/editorial/misfortune-myth-or-neglect-arsenals-injury-problems-investigated/) - which although doesn't offer a definitive reason or solution, does pose questions of how our injured players are treated.

Some interesting tables.

(http://www.arsenalreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/lewin2.jpg)

(http://www.arsenalreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Injuries-Per-Season.jpg)

(http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/317/5144/original.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on August 15, 2012, 09:47:27 AM
It is not great reading from a Utd prospective either :-\
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2012, 07:56:14 PM
Hmmmm.

Captain fantastic.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2012, 08:46:57 PM
Great business and all that but it's a watershed moment for Arsenal. Fabregas, Nasri, Adebayor, Flamini, Hleb, Toure, Clichy, Cole.......now RVP. Who next? Wilshere, Song, Vermaelen? Arsenal sell players when they're at their most valuable. A selling club but i suppose it's more indicative of player power today.

Someone on here, a few years ago, said they were once a big fan of a club but lapsed when they realised it was a filthy operation, full of overpaid primadonnas who were worshiped by the Sky-Sports brainwashing machine and, in turn, the great unwashed. I was foolish to think he'd jumped the gun. He was 100% correct.

Kissing the crest, proud to be captain - bastards all.

Who's going to read Wally's crosses now?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 15, 2012, 08:57:30 PM
Hard to see how Arsenal couldn't have sold him to the likes of Juve, Bayern or either of the Spanish teams even if it meant settling for a bit less cash. Selling your best players to your direct rivals is not going to keep the fans onside. And Arsenal have done it two Summers in a row now. Seems to be strong rumours that Song is for the off as well.

I imagine Arsenal will try to make at least one big signing to appease the fans if nothing else. I imagine they are fuming.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 15, 2012, 09:18:13 PM
Totally agree GBB. I heard the fee was 15 million plus add on's. Sick of this selling within England business. Its hard to know whether Wenger sanctions these moves or his hands are tied by the board. Given the fact that he is such an intelligent economist makes me think its his call. If the likes of Llorente or even Clint Dempsey was signed I'd be happy enough but honestly can't see that happening! Huge pressure on Podolski and Giroud to start well now!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 15, 2012, 09:18:27 PM
Chelsea and the Manchester clubs target is a league title for Arsenal it's champions league qualification they signed Lukas Podolski,Olivier Giroud two good forwards that can keep the target on track.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballinaman on August 15, 2012, 09:20:49 PM
Alex Song on the way out too. Jaysus.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 15, 2012, 09:48:36 PM
Arsenal are a Feeder club for the big boys ;D

I was sure he was heading for Juve, hopefully he stays fit and bangs in the goals for Utd. If Arsenal loose Song they are fooked..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 15, 2012, 09:59:00 PM
Song despite all his assists is a complete liability at defending. This was evident in that amount of goals that Arsenal shipped when Arteta got injured. It was his discipline that made Song look good!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 02:03:41 AM
Meh! Scoring goals is hardly a problem for Man United, only one winner in that transfer. Impossible for Arsenal to contest for the EPL, they are a selling club and can't compete with either Manchester club or the big two in Spain and Chelsea as well. No big deal, they'll still finish top 4, no deluded sense of entitlement on this thread.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 16, 2012, 02:15:12 PM
Arsenal will have Bendtner back from Sunderland I assume so along with Podolski & Giroud, they have plenty of attacking options.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on August 16, 2012, 02:52:06 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 02:03:41 AM
Meh! Scoring goals is hardly a problem for Man United, only one winner in that transfer. Impossible for Arsenal to contest for the EPL, they are a selling club and can't compete with either Manchester club or the big two in Spain and Chelsea as well. No big deal, they'll still finish top 4, no deluded sense of entitlement on this thread.

Did you just contradict yourself? If Arsenal don't watch themselves, they'll not finish top 4. They wouldn't have last year without RVP.

I remember when Liverpool fans went from the target being 'Win the title' to 'Challenge for the Title' to 'Finish in the Top 4' to 'Qualify for European Football'. And look at us now. Make sure ye don't follow suit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 03:35:30 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 16, 2012, 02:52:06 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 02:03:41 AM
Meh! Scoring goals is hardly a problem for Man United, only one winner in that transfer. Impossible for Arsenal to contest for the EPL, they are a selling club and can't compete with either Manchester club or the big two in Spain and Chelsea as well. No big deal, they'll still finish top 4, no deluded sense of entitlement on this thread.

Did you just contradict yourself? If Arsenal don't watch themselves, they'll not finish top 4. They wouldn't have last year without RVP.

I remember when Liverpool fans went from the target being 'Win the title' to 'Challenge for the Title' to 'Finish in the Top 4' to 'Qualify for European Football'. And look at us now. Make sure ye don't follow suit.

How can you say that? Strange thing to say, who knows how the Arsenal dynamic would have changed.

As for entitlement that was tongue in cheek irony.

However as for Arsenal I would be quite confident they'll contest for the title but will fall short due to lack of real quality in the squad I believe that for a number of reasons

1. Steve Bould as number 2 will ensure a far better focus on defence, has already switched from man-to-man to zonal.
2. Chesney will be a year older
3. Mertesacker has the first season under his belt and will ensure far better organisation in defence and Koscielny is a superb centre-back probably the most under-rated in the EPL, he's far better defender the TV5 for example.
4. Giroud, Podolski and Cazorla are all real quality not potential for a change, Cazorla I feel will be the next Arsenal superstar after Henry, Cesc and RVP.
5. The return of Wilshere will be a fantastic fillip and a real boast to the squad.
6. A defensive midfielder will be bought before end of August.

Plenty of other minor variables as well but ultimately I think Arsenal will have too many key players that can't be replaced as they could be at either Manchester club or Chelsea. So injuries and suspensions will cause Arsenal to suffer particularly around Christmas and Feb when the UCL returns but their squad and manager is still way ahead of any other EPL team in my opinion.




Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Geoff Tipps on August 16, 2012, 03:47:14 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 03:35:30 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 16, 2012, 02:52:06 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 02:03:41 AM
Meh! Scoring goals is hardly a problem for Man United, only one winner in that transfer. Impossible for Arsenal to contest for the EPL, they are a selling club and can't compete with either Manchester club or the big two in Spain and Chelsea as well. No big deal, they'll still finish top 4, no deluded sense of entitlement on this thread.

Did you just contradict yourself? If Arsenal don't watch themselves, they'll not finish top 4. They wouldn't have last year without RVP.

I remember when Liverpool fans went from the target being 'Win the title' to 'Challenge for the Title' to 'Finish in the Top 4' to 'Qualify for European Football'. And look at us now. Make sure ye don't follow suit.

How can you say that? Strange thing to say, who knows how the Arsenal dynamic would have changed.

As for entitlement that was tongue in cheek irony.

However as for Arsenal I would be quite confident they'll contest for the title but will fall short due to lack of real quality in the squad I believe that for a number of reasons

1. Steve Bould as number 2 will ensure a far better focus on defence, has already switched from man-to-man to zonal.
2. Chesney will be a year older
3. Mertesacker has the first season under his belt and will ensure far better organisation in defence and Koscielny is a superb centre-back probably the most under-rated in the EPL, he's far better defender the TV5 for example.
4. Giroud, Podolski and Cazorla are all real quality not potential for a change, Cazorla I feel will be the next Arsenal superstar after Henry, Cesc and RVP.
5. The return of Wilshere will be a fantastic fillip and a real boast to the squad.
6. A defensive midfielder will be bought before end of August.

Plenty of other minor variables as well but ultimately I think Arsenal will have too many key players that can't be replaced as they could be at either Manchester club or Chelsea. So injuries and suspensions will cause Arsenal to suffer particularly around Christmas and Feb when the UCL returns but their squad and manager is still way ahead of any other EPL team in my opinion.

Should a squad that is "way ahead of any other EPL team" not be able to cope with injuries and suspensions??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on August 16, 2012, 03:47:57 PM
I think you're right Dinny - I don't think that Arsenal would have the entitlement complex that Liverpool seem to suffer from, and that they (Arsenal) willl work hard at maintaining a quality, competitive squad, rather than focussing on hard luck and near-misses.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 04:00:15 PM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on August 16, 2012, 03:47:14 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 03:35:30 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 16, 2012, 02:52:06 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 02:03:41 AM
Meh! Scoring goals is hardly a problem for Man United, only one winner in that transfer. Impossible for Arsenal to contest for the EPL, they are a selling club and can't compete with either Manchester club or the big two in Spain and Chelsea as well. No big deal, they'll still finish top 4, no deluded sense of entitlement on this thread.

Did you just contradict yourself? If Arsenal don't watch themselves, they'll not finish top 4. They wouldn't have last year without RVP.

I remember when Liverpool fans went from the target being 'Win the title' to 'Challenge for the Title' to 'Finish in the Top 4' to 'Qualify for European Football'. And look at us now. Make sure ye don't follow suit.

How can you say that? Strange thing to say, who knows how the Arsenal dynamic would have changed.

As for entitlement that was tongue in cheek irony.

However as for Arsenal I would be quite confident they'll contest for the title but will fall short due to lack of real quality in the squad I believe that for a number of reasons

1. Steve Bould as number 2 will ensure a far better focus on defence, has already switched from man-to-man to zonal.
2. Chesney will be a year older
3. Mertesacker has the first season under his belt and will ensure far better organisation in defence and Koscielny is a superb centre-back probably the most under-rated in the EPL, he's far better defender the TV5 for example.
4. Giroud, Podolski and Cazorla are all real quality not potential for a change, Cazorla I feel will be the next Arsenal superstar after Henry, Cesc and RVP.
5. The return of Wilshere will be a fantastic fillip and a real boast to the squad.
6. A defensive midfielder will be bought before end of August.

Plenty of other minor variables as well but ultimately I think Arsenal will have too many key players that can't be replaced as they could be at either Manchester club or Chelsea. So injuries and suspensions will cause Arsenal to suffer particularly around Christmas and Feb when the UCL returns but their squad and manager is still way ahead of any other EPL team in my opinion.

Should a squad that is "way ahead of any other EPL team" not be able to cope with injuries and suspensions??

Eh? It's all relative they will cope to a point but would anticipate Arsenal maybe going on a run of games during the season where they will only pick up may 4/5 out of 15, if they had the extra quality in their squad they would turn some of those draws/defeats into victories/draws but their squad will ensure that those bad runs are less frequent that every team bar Man City and Man United who will probably only have 2/3 bad runs between them all season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on August 16, 2012, 04:23:52 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on August 16, 2012, 03:47:57 PM
I think you're right Dinny - I don't think that Arsenal would have the entitlement complex that Liverpool seem to suffer from, and that they (Arsenal) willl work hard at maintaining a quality, competitive squad, rather than focussing on hard luck and near-misses.

What exactly is the entitlement complex that Liverpool suffer from? Have you seen any Liverpool publications, or 'sane' fans predicting, or indeed hoping, for anything other than a top 4 spot at most.

I think the days of Liverpool expecting to win the title are gone, and everyone is only too aware that it will take a lot of hard work to get them days back again. (Or a Billionaire).

Dinny, obviously I can't say what the impact of RVP missing would have been last year for definite, but I'd have said he was by far your most important player, and without his goals I don't think ye'd have been in the top 4. I could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 16, 2012, 04:34:18 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 03:35:30 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 16, 2012, 02:52:06 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 02:03:41 AM
Meh! Scoring goals is hardly a problem for Man United, only one winner in that transfer. Impossible for Arsenal to contest for the EPL, they are a selling club and can't compete with either Manchester club or the big two in Spain and Chelsea as well. No big deal, they'll still finish top 4, no deluded sense of entitlement on this thread.

Did you just contradict yourself? If Arsenal don't watch themselves, they'll not finish top 4. They wouldn't have last year without RVP.

I remember when Liverpool fans went from the target being 'Win the title' to 'Challenge for the Title' to 'Finish in the Top 4' to 'Qualify for European Football'. And look at us now. Make sure ye don't follow suit.

How can you say that? Strange thing to say, who knows how the Arsenal dynamic would have changed.

As for entitlement that was tongue in cheek irony.

However as for Arsenal I would be quite confident they'll contest for the title but will fall short due to lack of real quality in the squad I believe that for a number of reasons

1. Steve Bould as number 2 will ensure a far better focus on defence, has already switched from man-to-man to zonal.
2. Chesney will be a year older
3. Mertesacker has the first season under his belt and will ensure far better organisation in defence and Koscielny is a superb centre-back probably the most under-rated in the EPL, he's far better defender the TV5 for example.
4. Giroud, Podolski and Cazorla are all real quality not potential for a change, Cazorla I feel will be the next Arsenal superstar after Henry, Cesc and RVP.
5. The return of Wilshere will be a fantastic fillip and a real boast to the squad.
6. A defensive midfielder will be bought before end of August.

Fair play Dinny. You are an optimistic old soul.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on August 16, 2012, 04:36:32 PM
Reports of RVP's house on Fire.

Police think its Arsene.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on August 16, 2012, 04:57:30 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 16, 2012, 04:23:52 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on August 16, 2012, 03:47:57 PM
I think you're right Dinny - I don't think that Arsenal would have the entitlement complex that Liverpool seem to suffer from, and that they (Arsenal) willl work hard at maintaining a quality, competitive squad, rather than focussing on hard luck and near-misses.

What exactly is the entitlement complex that Liverpool suffer from? Have you seen any Liverpool publications, or 'sane' fans predicting, or indeed hoping, for anything other than a top 4 spot at most.

I think the days of Liverpool expecting to win the title are gone, and everyone is only too aware that it will take a lot of hard work to get them days back again. (Or a Billionaire).

Dinny, obviously I can't say what the impact of RVP missing would have been last year for definite, but I'd have said he was by far your most important player, and without his goals I don't think ye'd have been in the top 4. I could be wrong though.

Thanks for playing ...  :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 05:04:30 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on August 16, 2012, 04:57:30 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 16, 2012, 04:23:52 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on August 16, 2012, 03:47:57 PM
I think you're right Dinny - I don't think that Arsenal would have the entitlement complex that Liverpool seem to suffer from, and that they (Arsenal) willl work hard at maintaining a quality, competitive squad, rather than focussing on hard luck and near-misses.

What exactly is the entitlement complex that Liverpool suffer from? Have you seen any Liverpool publications, or 'sane' fans predicting, or indeed hoping, for anything other than a top 4 spot at most.

I think the days of Liverpool expecting to win the title are gone, and everyone is only too aware that it will take a lot of hard work to get them days back again. (Or a Billionaire).

Dinny, obviously I can't say what the impact of RVP missing would have been last year for definite, but I'd have said he was by far your most important player, and without his goals I don't think ye'd have been in the top 4. I could be wrong though.

Thanks for playing ...  :P

It was too easy for you..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 05:05:08 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 16, 2012, 04:34:18 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 03:35:30 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 16, 2012, 02:52:06 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 02:03:41 AM
Meh! Scoring goals is hardly a problem for Man United, only one winner in that transfer. Impossible for Arsenal to contest for the EPL, they are a selling club and can't compete with either Manchester club or the big two in Spain and Chelsea as well. No big deal, they'll still finish top 4, no deluded sense of entitlement on this thread.

Did you just contradict yourself? If Arsenal don't watch themselves, they'll not finish top 4. They wouldn't have last year without RVP.

I remember when Liverpool fans went from the target being 'Win the title' to 'Challenge for the Title' to 'Finish in the Top 4' to 'Qualify for European Football'. And look at us now. Make sure ye don't follow suit.

How can you say that? Strange thing to say, who knows how the Arsenal dynamic would have changed.

As for entitlement that was tongue in cheek irony.

However as for Arsenal I would be quite confident they'll contest for the title but will fall short due to lack of real quality in the squad I believe that for a number of reasons

1. Steve Bould as number 2 will ensure a far better focus on defence, has already switched from man-to-man to zonal.
2. Chesney will be a year older
3. Mertesacker has the first season under his belt and will ensure far better organisation in defence and Koscielny is a superb centre-back probably the most under-rated in the EPL, he's far better defender the TV5 for example.
4. Giroud, Podolski and Cazorla are all real quality not potential for a change, Cazorla I feel will be the next Arsenal superstar after Henry, Cesc and RVP.
5. The return of Wilshere will be a fantastic fillip and a real boast to the squad.
6. A defensive midfielder will be bought before end of August.

Fair play Dinny. You are an optimistic old soul.

Kildare fan - years of conditioning...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on August 16, 2012, 05:09:44 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 05:04:30 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on August 16, 2012, 04:57:30 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 16, 2012, 04:23:52 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on August 16, 2012, 03:47:57 PM
I think you're right Dinny - I don't think that Arsenal would have the entitlement complex that Liverpool seem to suffer from, and that they (Arsenal) willl work hard at maintaining a quality, competitive squad, rather than focussing on hard luck and near-misses.

What exactly is the entitlement complex that Liverpool suffer from? Have you seen any Liverpool publications, or 'sane' fans predicting, or indeed hoping, for anything other than a top 4 spot at most.

I think the days of Liverpool expecting to win the title are gone, and everyone is only too aware that it will take a lot of hard work to get them days back again. (Or a Billionaire).

Dinny, obviously I can't say what the impact of RVP missing would have been last year for definite, but I'd have said he was by far your most important player, and without his goals I don't think ye'd have been in the top 4. I could be wrong though.

Thanks for playing ...  :P

It was too easy for you..

Sorry, don't know what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2012, 05:29:38 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 03:35:30 PM


1. Steve Bould as number 2 will ensure a far better focus on defence, has already switched from man-to-man to zonal.
2. Chesney will be a year older
3. Mertesacker has the first season under his belt and will ensure far better organisation in defence and Koscielny is a superb centre-back probably the most under-rated in the EPL, he's far better defender the TV5 for example.
4. Giroud, Podolski and Cazorla are all real quality not potential for a change, Cazorla I feel will be the next Arsenal superstar after Henry, Cesc and RVP.
5. The return of Wilshere will be a fantastic fillip and a real boast to the squad.
6. A defensive midfielder will be bought before end of August.


To play devil's advocate:

1. Steve Bould's promotion guarantees nothing of the sort, nor does the decision to go for zonal marking. Bould could well be a yes man, someone who Wenger handpicked to sit beside him and nod. There's no proof that Bould has any track record of brilliant defensive coaching.

2. Chesney is a lot better than the 3 Stoogies in Almunia, Fabianski and Mannone. Yet his performance in the Euros raises doubts about his big game temperament.

3. Mertesecker had an average to poor first season when fit. He was roasted by Welbeck and displayed a shockingly poor desire to win ball from corners and free kicks into his box. Kocielney has his moments. The c**k-up with Chesney in the Cola Final was monumental in terms of how Arsenal progressed since then.

4. Giroud was extremely wasteful in the friendly v Cologne. He didn't seem to be rated by the French management either in the Euros. Podolski can finish but where do we play him? I'd prefer to see him in the centre as opposed to Giroud and Wally. But can he read Theo's blind crosses the way RVP did. Cazorla is excellent and I expect a fine season injury permitting. But what if he gets caught in the Tube door or something?

5. For Wilshere read Ramsey or Eduardo or Diaby. Not a leg breaker but Arsenal seem to have a history of long term injury = shell of the player.

6. Will he?

Stick that in yer feckin optimistic pipe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: centre 3/4s on August 16, 2012, 08:50:03 PM
I am glad to see the bacl of that mercenary Van Persie to be honest with you, The cnut has a very short memory. They say he has been at Arsenal for 8 years but most of that time was spent on the treatment table and when fit was only a bit part player. Wenger always stood by him as he does with all his signings ans somtimes he gets it right and other times wrong but at the end of the day players have absolutely no loyalty anymore and unlike Arsenal are paying astronomical wages to these pre modonas for very little return. The lad to be fair to him has a wond for a left peg but i believe he is getting slower and this season will prove to be very difficult for him as he is no longer the main man and is just another striker at utd
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 09:48:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 16, 2012, 05:29:38 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 03:35:30 PM


1. Steve Bould as number 2 will ensure a far better focus on defence, has already switched from man-to-man to zonal.
2. Chesney will be a year older
3. Mertesacker has the first season under his belt and will ensure far better organisation in defence and Koscielny is a superb centre-back probably the most under-rated in the EPL, he's far better defender the TV5 for example.
4. Giroud, Podolski and Cazorla are all real quality not potential for a change, Cazorla I feel will be the next Arsenal superstar after Henry, Cesc and RVP.
5. The return of Wilshere will be a fantastic fillip and a real boast to the squad.
6. A defensive midfielder will be bought before end of August.


To play devil's advocate:

1. Steve Bould's promotion guarantees nothing of the sort, nor does the decision to go for zonal marking. Bould could well be a yes man, someone who Wenger handpicked to sit beside him and nod. There's no proof that Bould has any track record of brilliant defensive coaching.

2. Chesney is a lot better than the 3 Stoogies in Almunia, Fabianski and Mannone. Yet his performance in the Euros raises doubts about his big game temperament.

3. Mertesecker had an average to poor first season when fit. He was roasted by Welbeck and displayed a shockingly poor desire to win ball from corners and free kicks into his box. Kocielney has his moments. The c**k-up with Chesney in the Cola Final was monumental in terms of how Arsenal progressed since then.

4. Giroud was extremely wasteful in the friendly v Cologne. He didn't seem to be rated by the French management either in the Euros. Podolski can finish but where do we play him? I'd prefer to see him in the centre as opposed to Giroud and Wally. But can he read Theo's blind crosses the way RVP did. Cazorla is excellent and I expect a fine season injury permitting. But what if he gets caught in the Tube door or something?

5. For Wilshere read Ramsey or Eduardo or Diaby. Not a leg breaker but Arsenal seem to have a history of long term injury = shell of the player.

6. Will he?

Stick that in yer feckin optimistic pipe.

Ah feck ya O'Neill I'm off to hang myself..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 16, 2012, 11:22:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFOUFihDp2w
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 17, 2012, 05:22:36 PM
Twitter is going mad with reports that Song is already gone. Will be announced on Monday. To be honest I'm not overly bothered as he dallys in possession too much. I'd love to see M'Villa bought but think they will get Sahin on loan and Wenger will promote Coqelin to be the holding midfielder!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on August 17, 2012, 07:04:19 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 16, 2012, 05:29:38 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 03:35:30 PM


1. Steve Bould as number 2 will ensure a far better focus on defence, has already switched from man-to-man to zonal.
2. Chesney will be a year older
3. Mertesacker has the first season under his belt and will ensure far better organisation in defence and Koscielny is a superb centre-back probably the most under-rated in the EPL, he's far better defender the TV5 for example.
4. Giroud, Podolski and Cazorla are all real quality not potential for a change, Cazorla I feel will be the next Arsenal superstar after Henry, Cesc and RVP.
5. The return of Wilshere will be a fantastic fillip and a real boast to the squad.
6. A defensive midfielder will be bought before end of August.


To play devil's advocate:

1. Steve Bould's promotion guarantees nothing of the sort, nor does the decision to go for zonal marking. Bould could well be a yes man, someone who Wenger handpicked to sit beside him and nod. There's no proof that Bould has any track record of brilliant defensive coaching.

2. Chesney is a lot better than the 3 Stoogies in Almunia, Fabianski and Mannone. Yet his performance in the Euros raises doubts about his big game temperament.

3. Mertesecker had an average to poor first season when fit. He was roasted by Welbeck and displayed a shockingly poor desire to win ball from corners and free kicks into his box. Kocielney has his moments. The c**k-up with Chesney in the Cola Final was monumental in terms of how Arsenal progressed since then.

4. Giroud was extremely wasteful in the friendly v Cologne. He didn't seem to be rated by the French management either in the Euros. Podolski can finish but where do we play him? I'd prefer to see him in the centre as opposed to Giroud and Wally. But can he read Theo's blind crosses the way RVP did. Cazorla is excellent and I expect a fine season injury permitting. But what if he gets caught in the Tube door or something?

5. For Wilshere read Ramsey or Eduardo or Diaby. Not a leg breaker but Arsenal seem to have a history of long term injury = shell of the player.

6. Will he?

Stick that in yer feckin optimistic pipe.

Brilliant moment alright ;D!! Grand Lads.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 17, 2012, 08:57:34 PM
I want to feel optimistic about the upcoming season. We are rid of all our want-a-way players and some good quality has come in. Obviously it's nigh on impossible to replace the RVP of last year but all we heard from chelsea, city and united fans last year was how fooked we when RVP got injured. That might have been true - but what I really took from it was just how injury prone he was.

I'm hopeful for big years from Koscielny, TV5 and hopefully Wilshire. Ramsey can't be as laxadasical as he was last year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 17, 2012, 09:34:38 PM
Togetherness. I'll miss Song a bit because for all his lack of alarm, he did have a bit of a brain and experience. I honestly don't know who'll be our defensive midfielder.

But, this is Arsenal. They've lost some deadly players over the last few years but are still only below moneybags in the table and above the likes of Spurs and Liverpool. Every year. Up the Arse!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 18, 2012, 06:05:10 PM
Pretty blah game. Amazingly Gerviniho was not the worst performer. Cazorla was really great, even with a man marker. Shocking miss by Giroud, didn't even hit the target!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 18, 2012, 09:37:25 PM
Ah that was frustrating. I still think Arsenal play the best brand of football - the difference now is that the players aren't of the best quality. Diaby, Gervinho, Walcott, Arshavin, Ramsey and Arteta aren't clinical enough. The crosses are hit and hope and there's still a lot of pansying about in the penalty box, trying to score the perfect goal. Cazorla is head and shoulders above the rest of his team. Giroud looks like a Bendtner mark 2. Podolski - too early to judge.

On a positive - they're working harder and the defence was sound after a couple of rusty moments in the first 10.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on August 18, 2012, 09:47:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 18, 2012, 09:37:25 PM
Ah that was frustrating. I still think Arsenal play the best brand of football - the difference now is that the players aren't of the best quality. Diaby, Gervinho, Walcott, Arshavin, Ramsey and Arteta aren't clinical enough. The crosses are hit and hope and there's still a lot of pansying about in the penalty box, trying to score the perfect goal. Cazorla is head and shoulders above the rest of his team. Giroud looks like a Bendtner mark 2. Podolski - too early to judge.

On a positive - they're working harder and the defence was sound after a couple of rusty moments in the first 10.

Need a decent striker to avoid the duck egg scorelines.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Geoff Tipps on August 18, 2012, 09:49:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 18, 2012, 09:37:25 PM
Ah that was frustrating. I still think Arsenal play the best brand of football - the difference now is that the players aren't of the best quality. Diaby, Gervinho, Walcott, Arshavin, Ramsey and Arteta aren't clinical enough. The crosses are hit and hope and there's still a lot of pansying about in the penalty box, trying to score the perfect goal. Cazorla is head and shoulders above the rest of his team. Giroud looks like a Bendtner mark 2. Podolski - too early to judge.

On a positive - they're working harder and the defence was sound after a couple of rusty moments in the first 10.

So it's too early to judge Podolski but you can judge Giroud after he play less than half a game for ye. That makes sense  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 18, 2012, 10:02:38 PM
I've watched Giroud play a good bit. Every time he seems to miss more than he scores.

Podolski - there is something in him that clicks but is unpredictable. Throughout his career he has had a good year followed by a crap one. Just don't know how his form his yet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 19, 2012, 01:30:31 PM
Have seen zilch of the game but Martin O'Neill always sets his teams out to frustrate Arsenal, always better to play his teams towards the end of the season when they are bollixed due to lack of rotation so no surprise with the result especially when you factor in that is the 3rd nil all draw with Sunderland at the Emirates in the last 3 years.

Important that the defence settles early and from reports apart from the opening spell Arsenal were comfortable, can take strikers a while to settle so concerned but they should have more space away from home.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: joemamas on August 19, 2012, 02:16:44 PM
Was at the game yesterday, underwhelming to say the least, maybe when injuries clear we will be better, a shadow of the team that was there even two years ago. more hope than anything for this season I am afraid. Song also gone. Mertesacker seems very labored in his movement. Fast forward will cause him problems.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on August 19, 2012, 03:41:22 PM
Oneill, if Giroud really misses more than he be scores Wenger is the man to sort that out.  Henry was a headless chicken for months after his arrival at Highbury and kept the advertising-hoarding repair men in work for half a season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 19, 2012, 10:39:36 PM
looks like M'Vila and Sahin could be coming our way.  seemly song wanted wanted his 55k a week contract bumped up inline with other players and was pissed of when wenger said no

(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/640766452.jpg?key=15362048&Expires=1345414336&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=jnN9wCTH-C~maAAI759KVTftxc66supE6btfYDVBxjp7S2uM0ZOcVVHNu4htzp037~R3smEfl8Xt-Ou4oTSbQ8out1t6p5~uRXNrCpq3cCxs6pdq0vrX2m0POflEDwbUFumYrqDvYPz9zn5k27xQlElN2te2ze0tz0fVSosTUxs_)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 19, 2012, 10:51:36 PM
If that happens, and allowing for bedding in time, that changes everything. Two class acts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 20, 2012, 12:07:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 19, 2012, 10:51:36 PM
If that happens, and allowing for bedding in time, that changes everything. Two class acts.

Are you bi-polar per chance?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 20, 2012, 12:35:08 PM
If those lads arrive, it gives Le Arse a squad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 20, 2012, 10:04:03 PM
(https://p.twimg.com/A0xQoZCCIAAa3Pk.jpg)

(https://p.twimg.com/A0wgLBaCMAE6vcc.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 25, 2012, 10:09:27 AM
Quote from: gerry on August 20, 2012, 10:04:03 PM

(https://p.twimg.com/A0wgLBaCMAE6vcc.jpg:large)

Post of the year gerry  :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on August 25, 2012, 12:09:11 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 25, 2012, 10:09:27 AM
Quote from: gerry on August 20, 2012, 10:04:03 PM

(https://p.twimg.com/A0wgLBaCMAE6vcc.jpg:large)

Post of the year gerry  :)

I'm guessing he's gone to Liverpool.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 26, 2012, 07:37:26 PM
Arsenal very poor today. Too many b-list players and not enough grit. No leaders anywhere in MF or forward line.

Carzola a bright spark but Giroud and Podolski are far from capable of being the main striker. Both are players who can flourish in support roles though so Arsenal need another striker. Simple as.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 26, 2012, 10:51:12 PM
Listen, that was shit today.

Arsenal have replaced good players (Fabregas, Nasri, Clichy, RVP, Flamini etc) with inferior ones over the last few years. It's quite amazing how Wenger has kept them in the top 4 every year although VP did it almost single-handedly last year.

Walcott - crap, brainless, fruity, overhyped but the penny is dropping.
Gervinho - no bite, stupid, no awareness.
Ramsey - balls have disappeared since the injury. Lost.
Mertesecker - Just doesn't really care that much for the cause. Will do simple things but now losing aerial battles regularly.
Giroud/Podolski - no world beaters. Didn't impose themselves at all.
Chamberlain - overhyped
Arteta - a good player
Cazorla - excellent so far but noticeably greedier though he probably looks around him and knows to go it alone
Diaby - give me strength. No bite in the tackle. Doesn't want to know if someone slaps into him.
Vermaelen - fine player
Gibbs - can't pass accurately
Jenkinson - puts in a 'shift'

If Wenger can get that shower into the top four the man is a magician. Two 0-0s. I'd fear this year. I know this time last year was worse but VP was still there.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 26, 2012, 11:00:50 PM
Gerviniho isn't even the distant relative of a player. Mertesacker is shite. Or as they say in Germany, f**king shite.

Arteta and TV5 are good, jenkinson just brings nothing. Him and Gervinhio on the same wing is painful to watch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 27, 2012, 12:01:08 AM
But it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that Arsene will get them playing well for a strong 3-4 month period which'll throw them into the mix again.

Outside of Cazorla, I saw nothing that made Arsenal a better side than the likes of Everton today.

I think Liverpool will give them a beating next week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 27, 2012, 12:02:30 AM
The question must be asked - where has Wenger's judgement of a player gone this last few years...def more miss than hit....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 27, 2012, 09:47:33 AM
An away draw against Stoke is a good result, it does actually take players time to settle. Arsenal will be fine.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 27, 2012, 03:07:02 PM
The performance didn't indicate that the players weren't settled. It was just lifeless in the final third.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 27, 2012, 03:18:47 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on August 27, 2012, 03:07:02 PM
The performance didn't indicate that the players weren't settled. It was just lifeless in the final third.

So it's just a coincidence that Arsenals' new signings all play in the final third and that is where Arsenal struggled?

Arsenal have won only once away to Stoke in 4 years and have lost 3 times in that period, a draw is a good result and Arsenal dominated possession and territory and had more shots than Stoke. It wasn't the worse performance in the world, Arsenal aren't the side of old but given time and patience they'll come good this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 27, 2012, 07:37:03 PM
Fair enough point Dinny - I just worry about a total lack of spark up there. Settling period or not, one decent sniff of a goal in 2 games is a little iffy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 28, 2012, 09:55:16 PM
I see Walcott refused a contract extension and unbelievably Arsenal look like getting 15 to 20m for him this week  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 28, 2012, 10:29:36 PM
...as Swindon score 4 past a near full-strength Stoke at the Brittania tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 29, 2012, 12:17:16 PM
Are Gooners worried?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19406655

Theo Walcott has rejected a contract offer from Arsenal but talks are ongoing between the club and player.

The 23-year-old winger, whose contract expires in 2013, wants to stay and is willing to continue negotiations.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Forever Green on August 29, 2012, 02:30:35 PM
Getting rid of Walcott will be the best bit of business Arsenal do this tansfer window. f**king dreadful footballer

I like how everyone is writing Arsenal off already, I did at the same stage last year as well but they recovered brilliantly. Once Giroud and Podolski settle, they will be a force to be reckoned with this year. Cazorla is a brilliant wee player, probably the signing of the season imo. They could do with another striker and a defensive midfielder though

3rd and a CL quarter final for Arsenal this year me thinks
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 29, 2012, 06:39:00 PM
All is well.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19406655

I heard he was linked with Man City but also Liverpool was mentioned.  Could he function in the BR type of play?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 29, 2012, 11:06:19 PM
i see our friend came on as a sub tonight
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 29, 2012, 11:11:47 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 29, 2012, 11:26:17 PM
Quote from: gerry on August 29, 2012, 11:11:47 PM
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Man City are planning on paying for Theo Walcott with their Arsenal club card points.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Armaghgeddon on August 29, 2012, 11:31:34 PM
Who are these gooners you all speak of?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 30, 2012, 09:43:04 AM
(https://p.twimg.com/A1e10DOCEAA8TfV.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on August 30, 2012, 11:29:09 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Forever Green on August 31, 2012, 01:16:34 AM
 ;D  ;D

Thats class. I love those wee pictures
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 02, 2012, 06:45:49 PM
Routine win for the Arse today against a md-table side.

Quite disappointed by not bringing that defensive midfielder in but Arteta, Diaby and Carzola were excellent today and The OX and Podolski worked their asses off and Ramsey looked fresh when he came on, so with Wilshere returning perhaps that midfielder wasn't needed.

3 clean sheets in a row now.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 02, 2012, 07:29:12 PM
It's back on! Wenger Knows!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 02, 2012, 07:36:13 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 02, 2012, 06:45:49 PM
Routine win for the Arse today against a md-table side.

Quite disappointed by not bringing that defensive midfielder in but Arteta, Diaby and Carzola were excellent today and The OX and Podolski worked their asses off and Ramsey looked fresh when he came on, so with Wilshere returning perhaps that midfielder wasn't needed.

3 clean sheets in a row now.....
Mid-table? Should be so lucky!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 02, 2012, 09:33:07 PM
Arteta worked his arse off today. Great shift, hard working and intelligent. Mert vs Suarez gave me fits a few times but we got away with that. Podolski and Carzola were great together.

That said Liverpool were woejus. Easily the worst side/performance we've faced so far.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on September 02, 2012, 09:57:52 PM
What happened to Liverpool, like, they used to be good?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on September 02, 2012, 10:01:43 PM
Quote from: CorkMan on September 02, 2012, 09:57:52 PM
What happened to Liverpool, like, they used to be good?

All about money..... Owners let the club spend a fortune last season and it was wasted. Now the have no more to spend and have a shit squad. Bottom half team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on September 02, 2012, 10:04:34 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on September 02, 2012, 10:01:43 PM
Quote from: CorkMan on September 02, 2012, 09:57:52 PM
What happened to Liverpool, like, they used to be good?

All about money..... Owners let the club spend a fortune last season and it was wasted. Now the have no more to spend and have a shit squad. Bottom half team.

*cough* Andy Carroll *cough*
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 02, 2012, 11:34:01 PM
it was a great day until somebody scored 3
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 02, 2012, 11:35:48 PM
Ach I can't bring myself to dislike Van Persie.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 02, 2012, 11:55:32 PM
i bet u can before the years out.  pity i sent the texts out after the penalty, wished i waited till ft.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 03, 2012, 11:45:27 AM
Was pretty non-pulsed by RVP's hat-trick, he's quality is there for everyone to see but while I think he will score buckets of goals for Man United I think he will have a negative impact on their team dynamic. He is quite selfish and doesn't have a likeable personality, he really seems to be a bit of an arsehole and if their game evolves with him leading the line I can see goals drying up for rest of the Man United team which will probably be there downfall this season, that and a defence that looks anything but assured, they get very little protection from their midfield.

It's an international week so no doubt Diaby will pick up an injury, would be nice if Wenger did a Ferguson on it and pulled him altogether...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 03, 2012, 11:47:06 AM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jonah on September 03, 2012, 12:00:30 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 03, 2012, 11:45:27 AM
Was pretty non-pulsed by RVP's hat-trick, he's quality is there for everyone to see but while I think he will score buckets of goals for Man United I think he will have a negative impact on their team dynamic. He is quite selfish and doesn't have a likeable personality, he really seems to be a bit of an arsehole and if their game evolves with him leading the line I can see goals drying up for rest of the Man United team which will probably be there downfall this season, that and a defence that looks anything but assured, they get very little protection from their midfield.


;D
(http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/rmo0206l.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on September 05, 2012, 09:58:26 PM
should Mannone keep the Arsenal No 1 jersey when Szczesny is fit?

He has replaced the injured Szczesny in the Gunners last two Premier League games recording a clean sheet in both & he kept a club record six consecutive clean sheets with Hull last year
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: trileacman on September 05, 2012, 10:00:36 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on September 05, 2012, 09:58:26 PM
should Mannone keep the Arsenal No 1 jersey when Szczesny is fit?

He has replaced the injured Szczesny in the Gunners last two Premier League games recording a clean sheet in both & he kept a club record six consecutive clean sheets with Hull last year
That's a record?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on September 05, 2012, 10:21:32 PM
Quote from: trileacman on September 05, 2012, 10:00:36 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on September 05, 2012, 09:58:26 PM
should Mannone keep the Arsenal No 1 jersey when Szczesny is fit?

He has replaced the injured Szczesny in the Gunners last two Premier League games recording a clean sheet in both & he kept a club record six consecutive clean sheets with Hull last year
That's a record?

for hull and most teenage boys
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 05, 2012, 11:45:34 PM
Wenger'll throw Chesney back in. He usually does that but wouldn't it be nice if he changed that policy and kept Mannone until he throws one into his own net in a big game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on September 07, 2012, 08:24:25 PM
Fabregas back to Arsenal?

He's unhappy at Barcelona and apparently there was a clause in his contract when we sold him that we get first choice if Barca choose to sell him or if they sell him to someone else we get half the transfer fee.

Barca spent 35mil on him so you'd imagine they'd try to recoup most of that money if they do sell him. They won't do that by selling him to anyone other than Arsenal unless they get 60/70mil for him, which they won't. He can't be worth much more than 20/25mil.

So if Barcelona choose to sell him on rather than leave him unhappy at being a bit-part player in Spain, it wouldn't make sense, financially, to sell him to anyone other than Arsenal.

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000065604&story_title=Cesc-Fabregas-unhappy-at-Barcelona,-may-go-back-to-Arsenal (http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000065604&story_title=Cesc-Fabregas-unhappy-at-Barcelona,-may-go-back-to-Arsenal)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 15, 2012, 05:07:21 PM
Good performance today. Southampton look doomed already though.

Cazorla was some buy. Finds every pass. RVP would've thrived on it. Szczesney was the weak link though. Don't understand why Mannone was dropped, having not put a foot wrong so far this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 15, 2012, 09:59:18 PM
here we go

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 18, 2012, 10:16:01 AM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 20, 2012, 11:27:00 AM
Hmm very little activity here, are Gooners all just pessimists and disciples of despair?

Excellent 3 points on Tuesday night, kind of game in the last few years Arsenal would have lost so augers well.

Anyhow good start to the season, nice balance to the attack and defence with a midfield that works very hard. Think the Arse will get a result against City maybe even sneak the three points as City seem to be lacking something so far this year.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: belleaqua on September 20, 2012, 01:32:39 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 20, 2012, 11:27:00 AM
Hmm very little activity here, are Gooners all just pessimists and disciples of despair?

Excellent 3 points on Tuesday night, kind of game in the last few years Arsenal would have lost so augers well.

Anyhow good start to the season, nice balance to the attack and defence with a midfield that works very hard. Think the Arse will get a result against City maybe even sneak the three points as City seem to be lacking something so far this year.

The fear of getting too excited only to have hopes cruelly dashed I reckon. All going very promisingly so far but Sunday will be a big test irrespective of form.

Be brilliant to stay unbeaten over the next 2 games and after that all I would ask for is a goal from Giroud. If he gets a bit of confidence at all he could be the final piece.

Podolski has settled perfectly and I see somewhere that Gervinho needs one more goal to equal his tally of last season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 24, 2012, 11:23:47 AM
Should have beaten City yesterday, the BFG had a great game.

Arsenal will beat Chelsea.

Cazorla, what a buy!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 24, 2012, 12:02:09 PM
Only saw bits yesterday but what is impressive this year is the work rate. No strutting or pouting. Jenkinson sums up the attitude.

I suppose you're right Dinny - positive attitude and all that. I like the fact that the penny has dropped re Walcott.

Game by game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 24, 2012, 02:49:20 PM
There's a lot to say, but fear of egg on your face is always there.
Jenkinson is having a few solid solid games. Arteta and Cazorla looking good, and for once even Ramsey looked good.

Get Giroud to bang a few in and we should do well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on September 24, 2012, 10:15:58 PM
I watched the last 20 minutes of the game against Man City,
Arsenal looked contenders for the EPL title, not just a top 4 spot. The title is there for the taking.
Wenger is one relentless coach.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 26, 2012, 07:41:13 PM
Let's hope we don't do a city tonight

Martinez, Miquel, Djorou, Angha, Yennarris, Coquelin, Santos, THE OX, Walcott, Arshavim, Giroud
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 26, 2012, 10:24:07 PM
Giroud scores!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 26, 2012, 10:39:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 26, 2012, 10:24:07 PM
Giroud scores!

and then...?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on September 26, 2012, 10:42:04 PM
What is going on with the Arse, they are kicking arse and taking names these days......................to bad they are going to fold like a tent well before they business end of the season. :)

I dont think they will be within ten points of the winners and also think they will finish in the top four.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on September 26, 2012, 11:39:27 PM
Quoteto bad they are going to fold like a tent well before they business end of the season.

I dont think they will be within ten points of the winners and also think they will finish in the top four

QuoteArsenal seem to be the real deal
posted by you yesterday on the liverpool thread

Most wum's are not so obvious

stick to the Man Utd Thread stew
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 26, 2012, 11:43:43 PM
a good night all round and we beat Barcelona as well
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 29, 2012, 12:50:52 PM
Good test today to see where Arsenal are at in terms of competing with the big guns.

I see he has dropped Mertesecker for this. Horses for courses. Cazorla v Hazard should make good viewing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 29, 2012, 12:52:08 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 29, 2012, 01:00:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 29, 2012, 12:50:52 PM
Good test today to see where Arsenal are at in terms of competing with the big guns.

I see he has dropped Mertesecker for this. Horses for courses. Cazorla v Hazard should make good viewing.

My first thought this morning was that I hope he is dropped for this game. Could you imagine those little feckers running at him!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 29, 2012, 01:03:06 PM
Diaby off injured again. Hard to believe how often he's crocked.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 29, 2012, 01:07:27 PM
Torres scores. Poor marking from Koscielny.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 29, 2012, 01:08:05 PM
Can we bring mertesacker on for corners?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 29, 2012, 01:24:31 PM
Since Diaby went off Arsenal have completely lost shape.

Chelsea are playing 11 behind the ball and countering. Very hard to score against.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 29, 2012, 01:31:19 PM
Great finish by Gervinho. Not convinced Chamberlain meant to find him. 1-1.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 29, 2012, 01:35:28 PM
Have to eat the humble pie and say Jenkinson is looking much better on both sides of the ball than I gave him credit for a few weeks back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 29, 2012, 01:44:04 PM
Some nice football but no real quality out there apart from Cazorla, Arteta, Oscar and Hazard. Didn't realise how defensive Chelsea were but it's working for them. They're hitting Arsenal on the break repeatedly and only for that dodgy tackle on Torres they could have been 2-up.

The Wenger 4-6-0 means there are plenty of options for the defence and midfield but it gets a bit congested. Terry and Luiz are just marking the space. Haven't seen much of Podolski at all.

Yea - Corporal Jenkinson is putting in a quare shift.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 29, 2012, 02:01:49 PM
Another freekick. Another mistake by Koscielny. 1-2.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 29, 2012, 02:04:03 PM
He's having a nightmare out there
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 29, 2012, 02:05:12 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 29, 2012, 02:04:03 PM
He's having a nightmare out there

Totally. Giving away ball, fouling and the 2 goals.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 29, 2012, 02:25:44 PM
Chelsea have never lost a game that this fella has refereed
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 29, 2012, 02:39:23 PM
Disappointing defeat. First big test and failed it.

Giroud missed a great chance at the end, again. Is he any better than Bendtner?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 29, 2012, 03:01:00 PM
Tough game to lose, couple mistakes cost us.

Performance ok for me, we were well in the game after the first Chelsea goal.

The dude will come good hopefully. Arteta is really going well. Plenty of fight in him. Cazorla another day would have buried his chance at the end too.

Chelsea will be hard caught
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Square Ball on October 03, 2012, 10:16:50 PM
So Aaron Ramsey scored tonight, will his curse strike again? tomorrow will tell its own tale
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 03, 2012, 10:22:04 PM
Gervinhio = POTY.  :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: centre 3/4s on October 06, 2012, 01:20:50 PM
Anyone recommend a good stream for downloading  tonights game ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 06, 2012, 07:43:15 PM
Cazorla is a real gem of a player. Hope he stays fit.

Podolski put in a good shift on the left wing too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on October 06, 2012, 07:58:22 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 06, 2012, 07:43:15 PM
Cazorla is a real gem of a player. Hope he stays fit.

Podolski put in a good shift on the left wing too.

Cazorla will turn out to be the best signing of the season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on October 06, 2012, 11:33:17 PM
Extremely rare for me to come into this thread but just wanted to say how much I like Cazorla. I really like watching him play.
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 20, 2012, 07:24:31 PM
Good result for Chris Hughton.
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 20, 2012, 07:32:01 PM
Balls.

Schalke on Wednesday.

Gulp.
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 20, 2012, 07:44:34 PM
Will Cazorla be another Overmars, Petit, Henry, Pires,Adebayor,Hleb, Nasri Fabregas,RVP, and eventually move on, for a bigger offer eleswhere?
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 23, 2012, 03:58:50 PM
http://www.balls.ie/football/former-arsenal-keeper-jens-lehmann-gave-a-louth-gaa-side-a-motivational-talk-before-their-intermediate-club-final/ (http://www.balls.ie/football/former-arsenal-keeper-jens-lehmann-gave-a-louth-gaa-side-a-motivational-talk-before-their-intermediate-club-final/)

I miss mad Jens he was in Louth last week and gave a team talk to Clan na Gael before their Intermediate final...
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: tyroneman on October 24, 2012, 09:16:30 PM
Gervinho is just dreadful. And a cheat.

Commentators blaming Mert and Verm when it was Jenkinson played him onside.

Why is it keepers dive for shots right beside them. They could just stick out a foot and make the save???
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 24, 2012, 09:24:22 PM
Brutal stuff. Average side.
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: tyroneman on October 24, 2012, 09:29:30 PM
Wenger and/or the Arsenal board need to take a long hard look at themselves. You can't charge extortionate ticket prices and serve up second rate muck like this.

Santos, Gervinho, Podolski, Giroud, Chamak, Arteta etc all wouldn't get near the top 3 teams.
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 24, 2012, 09:38:12 PM
Apart from Walcott, where's the pace?

Ahhhh - it's hard to watch but replacing very good players with very average players over 36 months is paying the dividends we're watching. AGM tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 24, 2012, 09:41:26 PM
Should name this the bi-polar thread but that was pretty shite to watch!

How was the booing that loud at the end? There was only 100 people left in the stadium...
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2012, 08:53:07 PM
A win is a win is a win is a win is a win.

But, by Jaysus, it's hard to watch that football having been served great stuff for a decade. Limitless possession for 3/4 of the field but no one to play the ball to after that.

Possibly a Wilshere-Cazorla partnership will work in terms of creating and scoring goals. Neither are prolific though.
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 30, 2012, 08:06:51 PM
Reading 3-0 up the Arsenal goalkeeper is poor.
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: gerry on October 30, 2012, 08:43:20 PM
Feck this is embarrsing, fans all chanting: "We want our money back", then "We want our Arsenal back"

But sure as long as we get fourth we have achieve our goal  for this season
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: laoislad on October 30, 2012, 09:12:52 PM
Big Niall wearing the poppy loud and proud.
I don't see Brian McDermott with it on though.
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 30, 2012, 09:38:58 PM
4-4  :o
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: micko12368 on October 30, 2012, 09:57:36 PM
4-5 :)
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: Orior on October 30, 2012, 10:03:08 PM
This match has everything!

After 35 mins or so,

Reading 4 Arsenal 0

And a few Arsenal fans walked out.

And the score after 94 minutes?

Reading 4 Arsenal 4

At the final whistle, a couple of Arsenal players through their jerseys into the crowd, but then had to go get them back for extra time.

12 mins into extra time

Reading 4 Arsenal 5

Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 30, 2012, 10:07:58 PM
How was Koscielny not sent off near the end of normal time?

Already booked and he does one rugby tackle and then trips up a Reading player a minute later for good measure. How bad are match officials these days?
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: All of a Sludden on October 30, 2012, 10:18:46 PM
5-5
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: micko12368 on October 30, 2012, 10:20:05 PM
5-6
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: All of a Sludden on October 30, 2012, 10:21:25 PM
5-7
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: micko12368 on October 30, 2012, 10:21:40 PM
5-7
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 30, 2012, 10:22:04 PM
5-7 In fairness that was some game. One of the best comebacks?
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 30, 2012, 10:23:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 30, 2012, 10:22:04 PM
5-7 In fairness that was some game. One of the best comebacks?
Would be checking the Reading players PP accounts  ;)
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 30, 2012, 10:29:33 PM
"drici" would have had bother keeping up with that tonight - i thought this was his latest scores thread !!
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 30, 2012, 10:34:00 PM
What a comeback!
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2012, 10:49:41 PM
Don't know what to make of that.

Yippee?
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2012, 11:07:44 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 30, 2012, 10:49:41 PM
Don't know what to make of that.

Yippee?

Ffs O'Neill just enjoy it, it's only sport after all
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2012, 11:18:42 PM
Nah, these fcukers are on more money in a week that'd feed a small village in Uganda for the same period.

I enjoy a good cream.
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on October 31, 2012, 09:15:33 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2012, 11:07:44 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 30, 2012, 10:49:41 PM
Don't know what to make of that.

Yippee?

Ffs O'Neill just enjoy it, it's only sport after all

I think even Hardy would have enjoyed that - Georgie Graham wouldn't.  :P
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 31, 2012, 11:31:49 AM
That was great craic. In fairness Arsenal are great value. The remind me of Brazil back in the Zico days. :D
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on October 31, 2012, 11:49:42 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 31, 2012, 11:31:49 AM
That was great craic. In fairness Arsenal are great value. The remind me of Brazil back in the Zico days. :D

Yeah, there's always a Paulo Rossi waiting for them at the next bus-stop!
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: Puckoon on November 03, 2012, 02:33:26 PM
Yiz wanna change the name of this before he ends up worse than Arshavin?
Title: Re: Official Santiago "Santi" Cazorla González Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 03, 2012, 04:05:24 PM
Sick to the teeth of everything to do with Arsenal FC these days. Used to be a huge fan of Wenger but this past few years have been like a nightmare version of groundhog day. Christ I'm that depressed I don't even know where to begin. From the snakes running the club to some of the shit that's on the field. I used to hate nasri and rvp. Now i don't even blame them for leaving!! #WENGEROUT
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 03, 2012, 07:36:47 PM
Arsenal are in a transition period and have been now probably since 2005/2006, whether Wenger is the the right man to lead them out of the transition who knows but better the devil you know and all that. Arsenal are competing for 4th spot and have been the last 6 years, it always amuses me that so many Arsenal fans seem to have this ludicrous notion of entitlement and that they should be challenging for league honours. If they know their history of Arsenal they should be aware that this trophy drought is nothing new. Arsenal have a mortgage to pay and only when that mortgage is paid will they have a chance to compete and only then if FFP delivers a somewhat even playing field. And if FFP doesn't deliver Arsenal under the current model of ownership will not compete with the money making machine Man United or the 2 billionaire play things and will probably be surpassed by QPR or some other play thing in the near future.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 03, 2012, 08:03:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 03, 2012, 07:36:47 PM
Arsenal are in a transition period and have been now probably since 2005/2006, whether Wenger is the the right man to lead them out of the transition who knows but better the devil you know and all that. Arsenal are competing for 4th spot and have been the last 6 years, it always amuses me that so many Arsenal fans seem to have this ludicrous notion of entitlement and that they should be challenging for league honours. If they know their history of Arsenal they should be aware that this trophy drought is nothing new. Arsenal have a mortgage to pay and only when that mortgage is paid will they have a chance to compete and only then if FFP delivers a somewhat even playing field. And if FFP doesn't deliver Arsenal under the current model of ownership will not compete with the money making machine Man United or the 2 billionaire play things and will probably be surpassed by QPR or some other play thing in the near future.

I take on board everything you are saying Dinny but that still doesn't explain the lack of fight and passion in the Arsenal teams of the last 7+ years. Constantly getting rolled over and bullied out of it against United/Chelsea and the likes. I am convinced that Wenger has instilled a French mentality into the whole club and it is killing us from the inside out. Constant silly errors by defenders and goalkeepers for years now. Explain to me how a team like Borrusia Dortmund can be assembled for a snippet of the price of the current Arsenal squad and yet fight and die for their club and manager. Gazidis, Hill-Wood and Kroenke are bleeding the club dry and making a nice bonus' in the process. The fans do have a right to expect better when they pay the most expensive tickets in the league!!


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 03, 2012, 09:07:56 PM
Fight and passion are interesting qualities and I have seen plenty of teams that display these qualities being regularly relegated.  Chelsea and Man United over the last 7 years are simply better squads than Arsenal they will beat Arsenal more than not Arsenal in turn beat the other 18 teams in the Premiership more than not because they have a better squad, or is it when those teams lose to Arsenal it's because of lack of fight and passion.

Arsenal tend to dominate possession therefore their defenders and goalies need high levels of concentration and they spend large portions of games not defending so when they do suffer lapses it tends to be catastrophic but the quality isn't as good because they have been bought on the cheap within budget or brought through the academy and that bring inexperience.

QuoteI am convinced that Wenger has instilled a French mentality into the whole club and it is killing us from the inside out.

Seriously where does one even start with that!
Quote
Explain to me how a team like Borrusia Dortmund can be assembled for a snippet of the price of the current Arsenal squad and yet fight and die for their club and manager.

Dortmund were facing financial ruin they had debts of over a 100m and had to sell their ground, their model which they copied from Arsenal ironically enough (buy young talent at cheap prices and sell later on for a hefty profit) was forced onto them, but with young players you get loyalty and hunger. Wenger was close to succeeding with his project but the oil money at Chelsea and City were game changers, Dortmund don't have to compete with oil money. Dortmund are in affect a German Arsenal with less competition.

QuoteGazidis, Hill-Wood and Kroenke are bleeding the club dry and making a nice bonus' in the process. The fans do have a right to expect better when they pay the most expensive tickets in the league!!

Was their a dividend paid this year? Gazidis is on less than 90% of the 1st team squad, Hill-Wood's family have been on the Arsenal board for generations, I doubt he is in it for the money. As for Kroenke he is an investor and wants a return on his investment, funny enough that is how business works, he is not like the Glaciers and unless you have hard evidence I doubt he is bleeding the club dry.

QuoteThe fans do have a right to expect better when they pay the most expensive tickets in the league!!
So you should only buy a season ticket if you are guaranteed success? Arsenal is a London club, supply and demand, socioeconomic conditions, quality of stadium are also a factor in the price of a season ticket.

I understand your frustration but I personally can't see anything changing in short-term with or without Wenger, you'll get a good cup run, UCL football and more wins than losses. As fans we suck it up, bide our patience and always look to next year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 03, 2012, 09:34:25 PM
So you should only buy a season ticket if you are guaranteed success? Arsenal is a London club, supply and demand, socioeconomic conditions, quality of stadium are also a factor in the price of a season ticket.

Of course you shouldn't buy a ticket on the basis of success but I feel it is totally unfair that they continue to rise season on season. This new scheme basing prices on the 'quality' of opposition is a farce. Of course the stadium has to be paid for but not at the expense of the ordinary working fan. Arsenal could very easily find themselves in the position of Liverpool very shortly if they were to lose out on CL spot this year. The whole thing is just extremely frustrating!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2012, 01:11:59 PM
Dinny, it has nothing to do with a sense of entitlement or knowing history. It's what you see in front of you. It's players on massive sums of money not prepared to bleed for the club. The Hilliers and Selleys weren't top class players but they ran all day; you got the feeling they cared. When you see Santos asking for an opposing player's jersey before even reaching the tunnel at half time it's infuriating. When you see Cazorla laughing on the field at the end of a game having been a part of Arsenal's worst home European performance in over a decade then you start to ask questions.

There's a poisonous malaise evident that's obvious to anyone who watches Arsenal which has seeped into the club since the Invincibles broke up. The drop in talent is one thing and you can accept that. But the attitude of many of the players Wenger has brought in over the last five years is not the Arsenal I've supported since the 80s. Gallas, Nasri, Adebayor, Djourou, Bendtner, Hleb, Santos, Chamakh - you could double that list - didn't or don't really care about Arsenal. That's how I see it. That's why the away fans, the real supporters, were singing 'We Want Our Arsenal Back' yesterday and against Norwich and Reading. I'd rather have a team of Jenkinsons who'll burst a lung for 90 mins over prima donna £70'000 a weekers who spent more time gelling their hair before pansying around the field passing 2 yards and complaining to the ref if tackled.

Then you have Walcott who seems to spend most of his time issuing statements through his agent about where he should be playing. FFS. Theo f**king Walcott.

Wenger has allowed this. He's the man to do something about it but when?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on November 04, 2012, 07:04:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 04, 2012, 01:11:59 PM
I'd rather have a team of Jenkinsons who'll burst a lung for 90 mins over prima donna £70'000 a weekers who spent more time gelling their hair before pansying around the field passing 2 yards and complaining to the ref if tackled.
That sounds okay but would you accept the results and achievements of the lung bursters?

It's easy to see on this chart what Arsenal were about before Wenger -  a club with a great tradition who were occasional competitors.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Arsenal_league_positions_1947-2012.png/800px-Arsenal_league_positions_1947-2012.png)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on November 04, 2012, 09:21:19 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 04, 2012, 01:11:59 PM
Then you have Walcott who seems to spend most of his time issuing statements through his agent about where he should be playing. FFS. Theo f**king Walcott.

I could be completely wrong here, but I always got the feeling Walcott does care about the club. He's frustrated about being played wide right, which is understandable if he's so sure he's a centre-forward. He's going about changing Wengers mind the wrong way, but I do think he cares.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballinaman on November 04, 2012, 10:29:57 PM
Things are definitely not right at Arsenal....


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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 06, 2012, 08:11:53 PM
Looking good tonight lads.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 06, 2012, 08:19:42 PM
Taking Europe by storm.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 06, 2012, 09:11:07 PM
...for a half.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on November 07, 2012, 09:06:20 AM
Not a bad result against a form team in Germany
The Bundesliga has certainly crept ahead of the EPL.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 07, 2012, 12:34:16 PM
Draw was a good result, either side could have won it but I have to say the referee blowing up when Podolski was through was very bizarre and then booking him as well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 10, 2012, 10:04:47 AM
Would like to see Cazorla rested but unlikely. Need 3 points. Others will drop this weekend.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 10, 2012, 03:24:37 PM
maybe we might hold on to this lead
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 10, 2012, 04:27:08 PM
Good game this 3-3 at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 10, 2012, 04:58:57 PM
Chronic defending from both sides but a good game. It was never a penalty at the end so Schwarzer's brilliant save was justice for Fulham.

Serious problems at Arsenal, at this moment just thinking the lack of real quality is the issue but as talked about here before it might run deeper than just quality.

The French Niall Quinn might be a player, needs a good run of games now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 10, 2012, 05:00:12 PM
Awful. Can't take this any more.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 10, 2012, 05:02:38 PM
Don't do it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 10, 2012, 05:04:54 PM
Haha may just go on the rip.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 10, 2012, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 10, 2012, 05:00:12 PM
Awful. Can't take this any more.

(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/delta4062/ani-hug5.gif)

There's a lot more stages to go through yet!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on November 10, 2012, 05:18:41 PM
Defcon 5 depression imminent
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 10, 2012, 05:28:58 PM
I was just coming off the crystal meth too from last year.

Can't defend. Walcott is taking free kicks. Spurs next week. I'm not watching it. Blood pressure was 140/90 last week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on November 10, 2012, 09:37:31 PM
so much for this

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on November 11, 2012, 10:30:59 AM
Interesting, but how about a chart on game changing goals scored in injury time?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on November 11, 2012, 10:45:39 AM
Who would have thought Diaby would have been such a loss.......

Wenger needs an M'Vila, Tiote or dare I say it..a Wanyama to patrol MF and give the team some b*lls

A 20 goal a season striker also needed..linked with Cavani for £30m in today's papers.......prob BS

Walcott useless...get him signed and then get rid to LFC if they will pay decent money

Arteta...the fact he is nowhere near the Spanish team says it all. A squad player..nothing more.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 17, 2012, 06:23:20 PM
Hmmm where are all the Gooners today then? On the piss?  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on November 17, 2012, 06:51:49 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 17, 2012, 06:23:20 PM
Hmmm where are all the Gooners today then? On the piss?  ;)

Dinny Breen is probably out celebrating Towers' first Kildare minor title in over 50 years
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 18, 2012, 08:23:44 AM
Be nice to put a few wins back to back. Away to Villa on Saturday. A win there and the challenge for top four starts.

Cazorla had some game yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on November 18, 2012, 08:34:45 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 18, 2012, 08:23:44 AM
Be nice to put a few wins back to back. Away to Villa on Saturday. A win there and the challenge for top four starts.

Cazorla had some game yesterday.

He is a quality player oneill . The sending off of the lanky one changed the game though. Harry still thinks tottenham will finish above Arsenal though so there ya go .
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 18, 2012, 03:47:47 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on November 17, 2012, 06:51:49 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 17, 2012, 06:23:20 PM
Hmmm where are all the Gooners today then? On the piss?  ;)

Dinny Breen is probably out celebrating Towers' first Kildare minor title in over 50 years

On the ball DH..

In a heap today though..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 22, 2012, 08:43:17 PM
Giroud's a crowd favourite. He has a quare knack of getting his head under an opposition's corner. He seems to be a fox in le box - gets his toe or head on a cross.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on November 26, 2012, 10:05:00 AM
I just knew it wasn't going to be a great day for Arsenal at Villa Pk, when they tried to score during the 19th minute applause, in tribute for a cancer stricken player/ team captain.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 26, 2012, 10:59:19 AM
Quote from: Main Street on November 26, 2012, 10:05:00 AM
I just knew it wasn't going to be a great day for Arsenal at Villa Pk, when they tried to score during the 19th minute applause, in tribute for a cancer stricken player/ team captain.

Footballers live in a bubble - doubt they had a clue what was happening.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on November 26, 2012, 11:17:42 AM
So everything is supposed to come to a complete stop for the 19th minute in every Villa home game??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 26, 2012, 11:20:48 AM
Talk of Huntelaar in the press this morning. Would be a bargain at 6 million!! I'd imagine his wages would be in the 75-100k mark. Thoughts??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on November 26, 2012, 11:28:50 AM
Yes I do believe the game should have stopped and the players join in the applause  ;D

I forgot, when in the Arsenal thread, use appropriate smileys to indicate that the post should not be taken literally even if there is only a 1% chance that the post could be taken seriously.

Sorry, Billy and Dinny, I was just extrapolating a bit of humour out of an observation of an event in the game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 27, 2012, 09:55:51 PM
(http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/604098_492372080783846_2104799791_n.jpg)

Why did Wenger have to spoil it with the trophy pledge.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on November 28, 2012, 09:15:23 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 27, 2012, 09:55:51 PM
(http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/604098_492372080783846_2104799791_n.jpg)

Why did Wenger have to spoil it with the trophy pledge.

And the spelling mistake!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on November 28, 2012, 09:52:27 AM
Quote from: screenexile on November 28, 2012, 09:15:23 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 27, 2012, 09:55:51 PM
(http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/604098_492372080783846_2104799791_n.jpg)

Why did Wenger have to spoil it with the trophy pledge.

And the spelling mistake!

I note that you (are) totally committed and dedicated to this sport and that you won the RTE Player of the Year Award in 2012.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 01, 2012, 11:28:33 PM
(http://soccernet-assets.espn.go.com/design05/DJ/20051019/wenger_bongarts.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 01, 2012, 11:29:33 PM
(http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Arsene+Wenger+Southampton+v+Arsenal+Markus+ebd0ScZye4fl.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 01, 2012, 11:30:48 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 01, 2012, 11:31:45 PM
Wonder will the prof go?

The tide has definitely turned...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 01, 2012, 11:40:21 PM
Arsenal will probably finish in the top 4 again.

Wenger is so good that he'll do it with a shower of shite.

But he's further from the title than ever in terms of creating a squad capable of achieving.

Is it him? Are his hands tied? Are the players not listening to him?

Wenger is a brilliant manager and I'll always place him ahead of Fergie through bias and Ferguson's tendency to buy players others dicovered but .......

The board will never sack him. He makes them a fortune. He gets them into the CL knock-out year on year whilst selling his best players.


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 01, 2012, 11:45:04 PM
If they are set on selling their best players and not splashing out big money on buying the best players they will remain a viable business however will any manager make inroads under those circumstances?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 01, 2012, 11:50:25 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 01, 2012, 11:45:04 PM
If they are set on selling their best players and not splashing out big money on buying the best players they will remain a viable business however will any manager make inroads under those circumstances?

Exactly. That's why Wenger will never be sacked. Why should he? In monetary terms their wage structure is light years behind the top clubs. Arsenal cannot compete.

However, his judgement on players is questionable now. Santos. Squillachi. Park. Denilson. Eboue. Almunia. Bender.

Gervinho was a player of the year. Arshavin was a clinker. Something is wrong.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 01, 2012, 11:57:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 01, 2012, 11:50:25 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 01, 2012, 11:45:04 PM
If they are set on selling their best players and not splashing out big money on buying the best players they will remain a viable business however will any manager make inroads under those circumstances?

Exactly. That's why Wenger will never be sacked. Why should he? In monetary terms their wage structure is light years behind the top clubs. Arsenal cannot compete.

However, his judgement on players is questionable now. Santos. Squillachi. Park. Denilson. Eboue. Almunia. Bender.

Gervinho was a player of the year. Arshavin was a clinker. Something is wrong.

Is it really light years behind?? I thought i heard it was like in the top 10 in europe in terms of expenditure. Ok they don't pay the huge salaries but they have a large squad with very poor players earning vast sums. The likes of Chamakh, Djourou, Squillaci, Bendtner all earn 50k plus which is criminal!!!For a long time I idolised Wenger but think he has to go at the end of the season. Arsenal are stuck in a rut and very easily could become the next Liverpool. Fans should also be turning their attention to silent Stan and gazidis who have got off to lightly in this whole debacle!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 02, 2012, 12:06:26 AM
They're in the top 10 because of the size of the wage bill which includes the largest squad in the EPL including London dwelling costs.

Yes- too many no-action players earning equal wages to the top players in the squad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on December 02, 2012, 12:09:45 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on December 01, 2012, 11:57:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 01, 2012, 11:50:25 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 01, 2012, 11:45:04 PM
If they are set on selling their best players and not splashing out big money on buying the best players they will remain a viable business however will any manager make inroads under those circumstances?

Exactly. That's why Wenger will never be sacked. Why should he? In monetary terms their wage structure is light years behind the top clubs. Arsenal cannot compete.

However, his judgement on players is questionable now. Santos. Squillachi. Park. Denilson. Eboue. Almunia. Bender.

Gervinho was a player of the year. Arshavin was a clinker. Something is wrong.

Arsenal are stuck in a rut and very easily could become the next Liverpool.

http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/ (http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 02, 2012, 03:12:47 PM
The gravy train of best players that we have sold is coming to a tremendous halt. Who have we left to lose? Wilshire?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Evil Genius on December 02, 2012, 07:11:28 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 01, 2012, 11:50:25 PMThat's why Wenger will never be sacked. Why should he? In monetary terms their wage structure is light years behind the top clubs. Arsenal cannot compete.
Not claiming that Spurs are a "top club" or anything, but in recent seasons they've been reasonably competitive with Arsenal, despite paying considerably lower wages:

Last Updated: 26th November 2012

ARSENAL'S board will face more questions when bitter rivals Spurs release their figures for last season.

They are set to reveal Tottenham spent £1million less PER WEEK on wages than the Gunners.

Arsenal have already confirmed a wage hike of 15 per cent to £143.4m in 2011-2.

If reports are correct, that Spurs remained at their 2010-11 level of £91.1m — or below it — it would mean Arsenal spent £52m more to finish just a point ahead.

Some Arsenal fans will also see further evidence the club are not using their wage budget effectively.

There is particular dismay about "deadwood" like Marouane Chamakh, Sebastien Squillaci and Johan Djourou, who earn the best part of £150,000 per week between them but are yet to make a Premier League appearance this season.


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4664753/Arsenals-board-face-cash-quiz-furore-as-Spurs-release-figures.html#ixzz2DvIoAfbX
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 02, 2012, 10:20:52 PM
Might have something to do with how many are on the payroll.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 11, 2012, 08:16:39 PM
sweet god, we make it hard
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 11, 2012, 08:56:26 PM
Very embarrassing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 11, 2012, 09:01:12 PM
And this with nearly full strength team
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on December 11, 2012, 09:13:42 PM
Commentator saying Bradford don't look like a div2 team. Wrong. They look every inch a div2 team. However the brutal truth is... so do arsenal.

When did Wenger's team become so boring and so devoid of ideas.

Bar Wilshire, Sagna and maybe, maybe Carzola none of the rest of that overinflated squad would make the starting 11 at Citeh, Utd or Chelsea
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 11, 2012, 09:41:14 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 11, 2012, 09:43:29 PM
That man is a disgrace!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 11, 2012, 10:27:10 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on December 11, 2012, 09:13:42 PM
Commentator saying Bradford don't look like a div2 team. Wrong. They look every inch a div2 team. However the brutal truth is... so do arsenal.

When did Wenger's team become so boring and so devoid of ideas.

Bar Wilshire, Sagna and maybe, maybe Carzola none of the rest of that overinflated squad would make the starting 11 at Citeh, Utd or Chelsea

They aren't a division 2 side, they are a League 2 side which is Divison 4!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 11, 2012, 10:33:51 PM
It was too cold up north.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 11, 2012, 10:38:00 PM
Not a Arsenal fan, but that result is a disgrace. No trophy in 7 years, it should have been a priority to win the Carling Cup this season especially as it was at the quarter Final stages  not a Mickey Mouse 3rd round tie.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on December 11, 2012, 10:48:18 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 11, 2012, 10:38:00 PM
Not a Arsenal fan, but that result is a disgrace. No trophy in 7 years, it should have been a priority to win the Carling Cup this season especially as it was at the quarter Final stages  not a Mickey Mouse 3rd round tie.

In fairness Wenger put out a strong side. Which makes it an even worse result I suppose.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 11, 2012, 10:50:05 PM
Jesus its like having Stockholm Syndrome with Wenger and Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 11, 2012, 11:36:02 PM
Wrexham
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on December 11, 2012, 11:56:59 PM
Wegner is a great manager, world class and has been for ages, that said I think he has run his course at Arsenal, they are not going to win anything soon and I think a different gig with a different CL contender would rejuvenate him.

the top teams can lose in the Carling cup to lower teams, it happens because players switch off and managers don't make it a priority, this does not make the manager a bad un, nor should any rash decisions be made directly after this result.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 12, 2012, 12:03:01 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 11, 2012, 11:36:02 PM
Wrexham
I remember the Mickey Thomas free-kick. Must be getting on for 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 12, 2012, 12:23:12 AM
He was 37 then. Seemed ancient at the time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 12, 2012, 12:44:46 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2012, 12:23:12 AM
He was 37 then. Seemed ancient at the time.
3 more months  :'(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 12, 2012, 12:57:06 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 12, 2012, 12:03:01 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 11, 2012, 11:36:02 PM
Wrexham
I remember the Mickey Thomas free-kick. Must be getting on for 20 years ago.

Yes January 1992 and Arsenal were reigning league champions back then.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on December 12, 2012, 07:03:35 AM
I don't support any EPL team but Arsenal were always the one I said I would happily pay to watch. Not now. Dull, predictable and insipid.

With no RvP to rescue them with a moment of madness or even Fabregas to actually drive in a straight line into the 18yd box they have become stultifying pedestrian.

One also has to question how Wenger seems unable to get any sort of decent football out of Gervinho, a former French player of the year I think? He looks like he has wandered in from netball or some other sport but surely can't be as inept as he appears.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on December 12, 2012, 10:16:43 AM
I wouldn't be too hard on the team, penalty shoot-outs are a lottery.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 12, 2012, 10:42:53 AM
Something is rotten in the state of Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 12, 2012, 12:14:32 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jonah on December 13, 2012, 06:49:17 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 12, 2012, 10:16:43 AM
I wouldn't be too hard on the team, penalty shoot-outs are a lottery.

The fact that it went all the way to a penalty shootout against a Div 4 team is what's bad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on December 13, 2012, 08:45:33 PM
Quote from: Jonah on December 13, 2012, 06:49:17 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 12, 2012, 10:16:43 AM
I wouldn't be too hard on the team, penalty shoot-outs are a lottery.

The fact that it went all the way to a penalty shootout against a Div 4 team is what's bad.

Reaally, I must have missed that little detail ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jonah on December 13, 2012, 09:32:31 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 13, 2012, 08:45:33 PM
Quote from: Jonah on December 13, 2012, 06:49:17 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 12, 2012, 10:16:43 AM
I wouldn't be too hard on the team, penalty shoot-outs are a lottery.

The fact that it went all the way to a penalty shootout against a Div 4 team is what's bad.

Reaally, I must have missed that little detail ;D

It was pretty obvious so you really shouldn't have.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on December 14, 2012, 11:37:56 AM
Quote from: Jonah on December 13, 2012, 09:32:31 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 13, 2012, 08:45:33 PM
Quote from: Jonah on December 13, 2012, 06:49:17 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 12, 2012, 10:16:43 AM
I wouldn't be too hard on the team, penalty shoot-outs are a lottery.

The fact that it went all the way to a penalty shootout against a Div 4 team is what's bad.

Reaally, I must have missed that little detail ;D

It was pretty obvious so you really shouldn't have.
if you consider that I might have already taken Bradford's quality into the equation when I made my reply, then in all probability I was being ironic.
More than a probability when you also consider the content of a few posts preceding and when my post contained that well known cliché.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on December 14, 2012, 01:44:26 PM
Bradford have won their last nine penalty shoot-outs now!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on December 14, 2012, 08:11:27 PM
Well, in that case Arsenal were really up against it, after it went to penalties.

You'll always have the 7-5.




Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on December 16, 2012, 05:13:29 PM
Long story but will prob be travelling over to the Emirates as part of a stag next year  - where is best to fly into / home from if you are trying to get over and back on the Saturday  - bearing in mind the tubes being packed near the stadium?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 16, 2012, 05:57:37 PM
Fly into heathrow then hop onto the Piccadilly tube line from the airport which runs straight to and beyond the stadium. You can get off at holloway road and its 5 minute walk from ground. Getting home on Saturday night from the match could be problem as the last time I checked there isn't  a flight on Saturday evening which would suit if you want to return to international or city airport.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 17, 2012, 07:18:01 PM
surely not another night of pain,  theo playing up the middle, so lets see what he can do

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: micko12368 on December 17, 2012, 09:54:57 PM
5-2 to the Gooners, Cazorla hat trick
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on December 17, 2012, 09:59:33 PM
Cazorla has that Mickey Thomas look about him, maybe it's the nose.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 17, 2012, 10:02:28 PM
Quote from: micko12368 on December 17, 2012, 09:54:57 PM
5-2 to the Gooners, Cazorla hat trick
Santi has come early for Arsenal fans...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 23, 2012, 10:27:08 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 23, 2012, 11:54:20 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2012, 08:17:19 PM
That was interesting enough now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 29, 2012, 08:20:55 PM
Newcastle will no longer have Virgin on their jerseys as they were well and truly fucked at Emirates.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 29, 2012, 08:39:16 PM
Can't be totally satisfied with conceding 3 goals at home to an average side
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2012, 08:45:03 PM
A real sign of ambition would be to cash in on Walcott at this moment and purchase a real quality forward or winger. His price will have rocketed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 29, 2012, 08:59:29 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 29, 2012, 08:45:03 PM
A real sign of ambition would be to cash in on Walcott at this moment and purchase a real quality forward or winger. His price will have rocketed.
On ESPN Kevin Keegan said Walcott's agent will be doing cartwheels around the stadium.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: leaveherinsir on January 01, 2013, 04:59:34 PM
Now waitin on Arsenal for a tidy wee accum. Should i cover this bet?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 01, 2013, 06:05:44 PM
maybe now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on January 01, 2013, 06:48:54 PM
Quote from: leaveherinsir on January 01, 2013, 04:59:34 PM
Now waitin on Arsenal for a tidy wee accum. Should i cover this bet?

I'm waiting on them too - wouldn't be too confident at the minute
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on January 01, 2013, 07:10:00 PM
Having Wilshire and Arteta in MF at same time is redundant. Both there to keep play linked, neither particularly adept at breaking play up, neither break into the box.

Arsenal direly in need of a Lampard type player and  a proper DM

I feel sorry for Arsenal fans having to watch Gervinho. An abysmally poor player. Simply woeful in everything he does on a pitch.

Walcott showing tonight why he is vastly overrated. A nonentity over the first 87 min.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 01, 2013, 08:30:47 PM
When Cesc and Robin arrived, they were learning from Pires, Bergkamp, Henry, Sol, Keown etc every day. Now if some young talent from Derrylaughan arrives, he's playing alongside Gervinho, Chamakh, Gibbs and Fabianski. He'd learn more togging out at the shore swallowing midges.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 02, 2013, 12:33:25 AM
Gervinho is a total and absolute  'word censored'

He is a 'word censored' of the highest order

He needs a kick in the 'word censored' and told to 'word censored' off
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 02, 2013, 11:12:50 AM
I liked Arseblog's ratings this morning:

Having played like a harem of hungover New Year's Eve carousers Arseblog News has little choice but to speculate over what each player drank and did ahead of yesterday's god-awful draw with Southampton.

Wojciech Szczesny: 8/10 – half pint of lager shandy. Had an early night.

Kieran Gibbs: 4/10 – 70cl bottle of Glen's vodka. Woke up with his trousers around ankles.

Bacary Sagna: 2/10 – a box of red wine. Drank through till lunchtime before dozing off at 5.30pm.

Thomas Vermaelen: 4/10 – moonshine. Stayed up smoking fags with a random bloke until 4am.

Laurent Koscielny: 4/10 – 5 pints of eggnog. Lost his wallet and keys in the pub.

Santi Cazorla: 4/10 – bucket of sangria with sherry chasers. Tried his luck with a girl, failed, consoled himself with a kebab.

Mikel Arteta: 5/10 – festive sized bottle of Baileys. Woke up on the sofa (hair was still fine).

Jack Wilshere: 5/10 – tray of Jagerbombs. Shoving match with a big fella then puked in a taxi.

Theo Walcott: 4/10 – petrol from a rusting can. Disappeared, yet to be found.

Lukas Podolski: 3/10 – Scheiss beer (lots). Passed out on the tube home, woke up in the depot spooning a tr**p.

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain: 4/10 – tequila slammers. Wistfully called his ex...ten times.

Subs

Olivier Giroud: 4/10 – absinthe. Back to his for coffee.

Gervinho: 4/10 – White Lightning. Sobbed alone on a park bench.

Aaron Ramsey: 4/10 – Carlsberg Special Brew. Got his head stuck in a bin.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 13, 2013, 09:25:28 PM
Only 216 days till the start of the new season, can't wait.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 13, 2013, 11:19:08 PM
Do you think it'll snow the night?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 13, 2013, 11:30:20 PM
Wenger wasn't looking happy after Dzeko's goal

https://twitter.com/CiaranLen/status/290596100849692672
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on January 16, 2013, 09:01:07 PM
times are that bad that we cant even spell the players names right

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 16, 2013, 09:46:20 PM
That second half performance was like the old Arsenal, without the finishing talent.

Away to Chelsea on Sunday. If Rafa's men click I'd fear a hammering though that second half today offers a chink of light.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on January 16, 2013, 10:39:18 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 16, 2013, 09:46:20 PM
That second half performance was like the old Arsenal, without the finishing talent.

By "Old Arsenal",  you mean Arsenal in earlier days of the Wenger era?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 16, 2013, 11:53:06 PM
Has Wenger changed his first name to Mr?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 17, 2013, 12:03:38 AM
Yes sorry - pre the current side and post Mr Rioch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 20, 2013, 07:15:55 PM
What's Terry Neill up to these days? Could he bring back the glory days?

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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2013, 08:05:29 PM
Arsenal out of the blocks like a well oiled greyhound again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2013, 08:27:03 PM
Frustrating to watch. Wenger's teams always try to play lovely football, this team included. This side simply doesn't have the quality to make it sing. Can still hammer teams on their day but so many promising moves are ruined by the lack of quality in and around the box.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 23, 2013, 09:08:58 PM
On their day....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on January 23, 2013, 09:27:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 20, 2013, 07:15:55 PM
What's Terry Neill up to these days? Could he bring back the glory days?
Glory days  ;D   the one glory day under Terry - winning a FAI cup final.
And lest I forget, the one man Liam Brady show, away to Juve in the late 70's.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 23, 2013, 10:00:31 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 23, 2013, 09:27:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 20, 2013, 07:15:55 PM
What's Terry Neill up to these days? Could he bring back the glory days?
Glory days  ;D   the one glory day under Terry - winning a FAI cup final.
And lest I forget, the one man Liam Brady show, away to Juve in the late 70's.

Very late 1970s, after the 1980 lost 2 Finals.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on January 24, 2013, 05:26:44 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 23, 2013, 10:00:31 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 23, 2013, 09:27:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 20, 2013, 07:15:55 PM
What's Terry Neill up to these days? Could he bring back the glory days?
Glory days  ;D   the one glory day under Terry - winning a FAI cup final.
And lest I forget, the one man Liam Brady show, away to Juve in the late 70's.

Very late 1970s, after the 1980 lost 2 Finals.
Perhaps, losing a cup final in the old days was regarded as a glory day? ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on January 24, 2013, 10:29:06 PM
Ah, the FA Cup was a real competition in those days. Not something you played your reserve team in when meeting 2nd, 3rd and non league sides. It was a Trophy worth winning. Now it's a Trophy that is useful if you win another Trophy - and complete a double or a treble. Teams near the top see it as a hassle to stop them winning the league or finishing in the top 4. Teams near the bottom are more concerned with relegation.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 24, 2013, 11:34:33 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 24, 2013, 05:26:44 PM
Quote from: muppet on January 23, 2013, 10:00:31 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 23, 2013, 09:27:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 20, 2013, 07:15:55 PM
What's Terry Neill up to these days? Could he bring back the glory days?
Glory days  ;D   the one glory day under Terry - winning a FAI cup final.
And lest I forget, the one man Liam Brady show, away to Juve in the late 70's.

Very late 1970s, after the 1980 lost 2 Finals.
Perhaps, losing a cup final in the old days was regarded as a glory day? ;D

Don't forget the glorious defeat to Valencia in the 1980 European Cup Winners Cup final! A proper European comp not like this airy fairy champions league....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 29, 2013, 07:56:35 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on January 29, 2013, 08:56:56 PM
As the hopeful bid to sign David Villa has bitten the dust, Arsene does not believe that the transfer chequebook exists for the short term, satisfying fans with false hope.

"When you speak about 'anyone' coming in, I could go out and buy someone just to give people hope. What is important is that you bring in players who can strengthen your team, or you do nothing and are strong enough to do nothing.
"That is what is important for us, to bring in a player who can strengthen the squad. 'Anyone' to me means exactly what the modern game has become. As numbers we have enough. We have plenty of quality strikers."

When it comes to "anyones" I think Arsene knows what he's talking about, from bitter expensive experience.


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 29, 2013, 09:25:37 PM
Massive game tomorrow.

Hopefully the new signings will do the business.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 30, 2013, 09:13:36 PM
Andre fuckin' Santos, and Per slowasamotherfuckersaker, and Jordan f**king Henderson!

Nice to be back at 2's but christ we are not getting into 4th place this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 30, 2013, 09:19:50 PM
2 shite sides. Defending a lost art at two clubs once renowned for it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 30, 2013, 10:17:10 PM
Disappointing to draw at home to that side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on January 30, 2013, 10:19:49 PM
That talk earlier in the season about Bould improving the Arsenal defence seems like a long time ago.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on January 30, 2013, 10:59:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 30, 2013, 10:17:10 PM
Disappointing to draw at home to that side.

You were not thinking that on the hour mark. Gunners got outta Jail. A point gained for Wenger and Co. Two average sides with allot of baggage of selling of decent players over the last 3 to 4 years and replacing them with sub standard players.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 30, 2013, 11:30:17 PM
The final score is only relevant to what you hoped for before the game. Even with 20 mins left Arsenal were only level with a poor league side. Says a lot for Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 30, 2013, 11:35:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on January 30, 2013, 10:19:49 PM
That talk earlier in the season about Bould improving the Arsenal defence seems like a long time ago.

and the f**kers aren't even going through the back of anyone's legs either...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 31, 2013, 12:37:43 AM
Just watched the match. Worst Arsenal defence in living memory.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2013, 10:50:56 AM
It's not as if Arsenal don't a few shillings to spend today...


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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 31, 2013, 12:52:46 PM
Wohoo, top of the league. I'm off on the piss.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on January 31, 2013, 12:55:10 PM
They're still saying Villa is coming to the Arse today ...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 31, 2013, 01:11:05 PM
Liam Brady leaving as Head of the Youth academy in May. A front runner to possibly replace Trappatoni
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on January 31, 2013, 08:12:53 PM
Are there any relatively decent (safe) pubs near the Emirates to have a pint and let the crowds disperse after the game?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 31, 2013, 09:05:51 PM
Never had any problem with pubs around the stadium.

Go to any of them on Holloway Road

Which match are you going over for?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on January 31, 2013, 09:16:58 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on January 31, 2013, 12:55:10 PM
They're still saying Villa is coming to the Arse today ...
Who they?
Strong strong (very very strong) rumours of a Malaga LB on his way for £8m.

Seeing as Malaga are in a state of disintegration, he probably could have been nabbed for 1/2 that fee.
I suppose it depends if there were other suitors.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 01, 2013, 06:59:14 AM
Quote.  Never had any problem with pubs around the stadium.

Go to any of them on Holloway Road

Which match are you going over for?   

Heading over for the Stoke game tomorrow. Place called 'twelve pins' mentioned to me..does that sound right?

Just want somewhere to chill out afterwards. Is there even a decent restaurant round those parts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 09, 2013, 02:53:34 PM
A Tweet.

Andre Santos linked with return to Brazil ... Understand a loan move to Gremio could happen in the next few days. #AFC @Iandennisbbc
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 09, 2013, 11:24:35 PM
Seriously ropey defence.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 09, 2013, 11:32:45 PM
Wilshere - a fine midfielder.

I didn't like how he signalled to be subbed two seconds after the tackle. Wenger says it's not serious and he should be available for next weekend. Would Vieira or Keane have done that? Even Ian Selley?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 16, 2013, 04:56:00 PM
And when you build a team around mediocrity like Diaby and Areta that's the result......out the EPL.....even out of the CL places...out of the League cup (to a lower div side)...out of the FA cup (to a lower div side) and soon to be out of the CL......

Arsenal are a disgrace, pure and simple.

For all the plaudits about how well run they are and how good the stadium is...serving up that sh*te to the fans is a disgrace

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on February 16, 2013, 04:56:55 PM
Another trophyless year. FA Cup was our last chance of a trophy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on February 16, 2013, 05:08:48 PM
Shite club,and in permanent decline now.About to scrap it out with Liverpool in the coming season for a Europa League place.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 16, 2013, 06:43:32 PM
Season over. Another year of complete tripe. It will soon be time for the PR machine at Arsene Wenger FC to crank up the heat over who we are going to buy in the summer. Fans screwed over once again! I don't give a monkeys about playing pretty football (which we haven't done this 3-4 years). I'd rather a team that gives it all. Sadly something Arsenal don't do! Anyone who thinks selling RVP for 24 million is off their trolley! Missing out on 30 million from CL qualification does not add up!

No doubt I'll get hammered by the pro Wenger crowd on here!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2013, 07:26:08 PM
Munich haven't conceded a goal since December 14th. I think Arsenal will tank them 5-1.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 16, 2013, 07:29:51 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 16, 2013, 06:43:32 PM
Season over. Another year of complete tripe. It will soon be time for the PR machine at Arsene Wenger FC to crank up the heat over who we are going to buy in the summer. Fans screwed over once again! I don't give a monkeys about playing pretty football (which we haven't done this 3-4 years). I'd rather a team that gives it all. Sadly something Arsenal don't do! Anyone who thinks selling RVP for 24 million is off their trolley! Missing out on 30 million from CL qualification does not add up!

No doubt I'll get hammered by the pro Wenger crowd on here!

Meh...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2013, 07:45:43 PM
Ah, sure the same happened in both competitions in 1984. And Tyrone went on to win Ulster.

Sadly, it looks like Wenger can only rally the troops once in a while now. They're probably be up for it on Tuesday but will follow that up with another lazy performance against a side they think they're superior to.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on February 16, 2013, 10:47:10 PM
I haven't enjoyed an Arsenal season as much as this since Nayim from the half way line.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2013, 11:15:44 PM
Even the 5-2?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 16, 2013, 11:27:54 PM
Always next season!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 19, 2013, 10:51:32 AM
Hope Arsenal go gung-ho tonight. Throw everything at the bastards. Accept that you're not as good as them and just do a Celtic (apart from the recent game). Theo - head down, don't think, just run in a straight line towards the goal. Cazorla and Wilshere to shoot from all angles - none of this tippy-tappy shite. Podolski and Giroud to rough up the centre backs. Agricultural. Even if they lose 4-1, go down fighting.

Munich are a serious outfit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on February 19, 2013, 11:52:49 AM
I have a feeling Arsenal could win tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballinaman on February 19, 2013, 12:43:09 PM
Munich are in some form this year. 1 goal conceded away from home in the league all season. No disgrace to Arsenal if they get clipped tonight. Dortmund, Munich and Barcelona will make up 3 of the last 4 IMO.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 19, 2013, 02:16:52 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 19, 2013, 10:51:32 AM
Hope Arsenal go gung-ho tonight. Throw everything at the b**tards. Accept that you're not as good as them and just do a Celtic (apart from the recent game). Theo - head down, don't think, just run in a straight line towards the goal. Cazorla and Wilshere to shoot from all angles - none of this tippy-tappy shite. Podolski and Giroud to rough up the centre backs. Agricultural. Even if they lose 4-1, go down fighting.

Munich are a serious outfit.

Probably a situation where Arsenal will perform as there is no pressure of expectation. Knowing Le Arse they will go into a 3-0 lead and ending conceding 2 soft goals and then get hammered in the return leg.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 19, 2013, 07:36:37 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 19, 2013, 12:43:09 PM
Munich are in some form this year. 1 goal conceded away from home in the league all season. No disgrace to Arsenal if they get clipped tonight. Dortmund, Munich and Barcelona will make up 3 of the last 4 IMO.

Form has been very good away from home in the league not so much in the champions league. BATE beat them 3-1 maybe some hope for Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 19, 2013, 08:12:04 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 19, 2013, 07:36:37 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on February 19, 2013, 12:43:09 PM
Munich are in some form this year. 1 goal conceded away from home in the league all season. No disgrace to Arsenal if they get clipped tonight. Dortmund, Munich and Barcelona will make up 3 of the last 4 IMO.

Form has been very good away from home in the league not so much in the champions league. BATE beat them 3-1 maybe some hope for Arsenal.

I doubt it, they will finish without 11 players at this rate
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 19, 2013, 08:23:29 PM
Only good thing is watching Piers Morgan getting slaughtered on twitter.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 19, 2013, 08:27:31 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 19, 2013, 08:23:29 PM
Only good thing is watching Piers Morgan getting slaughtered on twitter.

YES!


Wait, that was a metaphor, right?


>:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 19, 2013, 08:29:40 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on February 19, 2013, 08:27:31 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 19, 2013, 08:23:29 PM
Only good thing is watching Piers Morgan getting slaughtered on twitter.

YES!


Wait, that was a metaphor, right?


>:(

So far........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 19, 2013, 08:33:19 PM
Any hope is lost now. No fight in the Arsenal side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballinaman on February 19, 2013, 08:36:17 PM
Munich should have won the Champions League last year. Not surprised by this game so far at all.

Aaron Ramsey is out of his depth. Anonymous
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on February 19, 2013, 08:40:11 PM
Bayern are Quality. Great side to watch.

Agree they should have won the CL last season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 19, 2013, 08:41:55 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 09, 2013, 11:24:35 PM
Seriously ropey defence.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on February 19, 2013, 09:38:15 PM
The season just got better...for every Spurs fan! ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 19, 2013, 09:51:20 PM
Arsene's swansong may be to keep Arsenal in the top 4. I don't think he'll overhaul Chelsea this time. Spurs will choke as always but Everton are proving sticky.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 19, 2013, 10:12:43 PM
Who would you replace him with?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: leaveherinsir on February 19, 2013, 10:16:34 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 19, 2013, 10:12:43 PM
Who would you replace him with?
Piers Morgan with a backroom team of O'Neill and Joey Barton. They could be a secret sect known as the twitteratti
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 19, 2013, 10:19:28 PM
I wouldn't get rid of him.

But the Yank might.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 19, 2013, 10:27:51 PM
Morgan on BBC5Live in 8 mins.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 19, 2013, 10:38:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 19, 2013, 10:19:28 PM
I wouldn't get rid of him.

But the Yank might.

Does the yank even know where the club is!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 19, 2013, 10:43:19 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 19, 2013, 10:38:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 19, 2013, 10:19:28 PM
I wouldn't get rid of him.

But the Yank might.

Does the yank even know where the club is!

Exactly
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 19, 2013, 11:23:03 PM
Quote from: muppet on February 19, 2013, 10:27:51 PM
Morgan on BBC5Live in 8 mins.
Morgan? The madness is growing. Has the guy ever kicked a ball?

That was some sleepwalk by Neuer for Arsenal's goal.
At least Wenger can look to one of the positives, Arsenal's CL did last 3 minutes longer than Celtic's.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 20, 2013, 12:03:46 AM
Quote from: muppet on February 19, 2013, 10:27:51 PM
Morgan on BBC5Live in 8 mins.

Do you like Piers Morgan?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on February 20, 2013, 05:12:56 AM
So that's the boast now? Champs league campaign lasted three mins longer than an SPL side that has access to 1/100 of the finances available to the Woolwich itinerants?

For how much longer will Wenger demean himself fronting up a penny pinching regime in front of eejits who pay £92 for tickets to be put to sleep every second Saturday?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 20, 2013, 09:31:05 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 20, 2013, 12:03:46 AM
Quote from: muppet on February 19, 2013, 10:27:51 PM
Morgan on BBC5Live in 8 mins.

Do you like Piers Morgan?

It is the only think that makes Arsenal's performances bearable.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on February 20, 2013, 12:06:58 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on February 20, 2013, 02:16:34 PM
Wenger is an unbelievable manager, but what is the story at Arsenal.  Is it a case of not having the money to spend or is Wenger reluctant to spend big?  Imagine what he could achieve at a club with lots of money like City or Chelsea.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Canalman on February 20, 2013, 02:37:37 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on February 20, 2013, 02:16:34 PM
Wenger is an unbelievable manager, but what is the story at Arsenal.  Is it a case of not having the money to spend or is Wenger reluctant to spend big?  Imagine what he could achieve at a club with lots of money like City or Chelsea.


Was told that Arsenal have a fairly tight wage structure ( I am being generous in my terminology) and alot of their good players move on for the higher wages.
Maybe they are also taking the longterm approach of waiting for the" fairplay rules "of UEFA  to kick in and then to prosper. A ground paid for, sellouts every week, London based, CL every year (so far anyway) is imvho not a bad base to start from again.

Chelsea, 2 Manchester clubs are living in a financial cuckooland at the moment.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 20, 2013, 10:15:16 PM
Unfortunately not. I used to think it was a money issue but Wenger's recent buys suggest he's not the soundest judge of a player.

Back when France were a major power, he raided them for Henry, Pires, Petit, Vieira, Wiltord, Anelka and after a while Flamini, Gallas, Sagna, Nasri, Diaby and Clichy. When the French talent dried up he was nabbing players like Chamakh and Squillaci and then the French league for Gervinho and Giroud whilst players like Michu and Ba went under the radar.

He appears to be dependent on his native country's talent and as it has taken a dip, so has his judgement.

He has a great philosophy as to how the game should be played but he needs the best players to execute it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on February 20, 2013, 10:41:48 PM
A Spurs win on Sunday week will confirm the demise of Arsenal and the return of N.London's original club to it's natural heritage as Kings of the Area.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 20, 2013, 10:45:09 PM
Yes, a win for Spurs should see Totteringham finish above Arsenal for the first time in 20 years.

I couldn't give a feck about North London bragging rights.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on February 20, 2013, 10:48:26 PM
You haven't even bragging rights in Islington these days ;D aye the goons don't care about bragging rights! St Totteringham's Day wasn't bragging at all,was it? ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 20, 2013, 10:57:34 PM
No, it was taking the piss out of the Spurs' natural inferiority complex.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on February 20, 2013, 11:17:54 PM
twitpic.com/c5g89c
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 21, 2013, 07:01:44 AM
The minute Wenger started trying to build a midfield fulcrum around Arteta as a replacement for Fabregas the games was well and truly up.

Bar Wilshire and Carzorla there are no other truly top class players in that team.

The "Verminator" has been exposed so many times recently its unreal and Walcott was paid 3 times what he deserves to try and pacify the fans.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on February 21, 2013, 09:15:08 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 20, 2013, 10:41:48 PM
A Spurs win on Sunday week will confirm the demise of Arsenal and the return of N.London's original club to it's natural heritage as Kings of the Area.

That must be great for you. Do they present the trophey on the day or is there a big presentation night?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on February 21, 2013, 10:29:28 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 21, 2013, 09:15:08 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 20, 2013, 10:41:48 PM
A Spurs win on Sunday week will confirm the demise of Arsenal and the return of N.London's original club to it's natural heritage as Kings of the Area.

That must be great for you. Do they present the trophey on the day or is there a big presentation night?

No matter how bad Arsenal have become, I would still fancy them to finish ahead of Spurs this year. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 21, 2013, 12:39:13 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2011, 09:10:44 PM
Szczesny - free
Clichy - free
Djourou - free
Vermaelen - €10m
Sagna - €9m
Nasri - €15m
Walcott €11m
Wilshere - Free
Fabregas - Free
Song - €1.2m
RVP - €3m

Yea just under €50 euro - amazing really, less than the cost of one Torres.

When you see black and white figures like that it shows what an amazing job Wenger has done

I just get annoyed thinking about the Arse and what could have been...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 21, 2013, 03:49:01 PM
Wenger has scored a tidy fortune for the club in transfer profits.
There's a lot to be said for having a few quid in the bank.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 21, 2013, 04:56:30 PM
There's a lot to be said for winning a few thing too though, starting to feeling the 80s...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on February 21, 2013, 08:28:18 PM
Spurs 3 Lyon 2 on aggregate! Flying the flag for N.London in Europe! ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2013, 10:21:05 PM
IT'S BACK ON!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 23, 2013, 11:12:04 PM
For those who had faith in Wenger, it was always on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 23, 2013, 11:15:37 PM
Sarcasm.

It's not on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Apparently so on February 23, 2013, 11:40:43 PM
Carlo Ancelotti to Madrid in the summer

Arsene Wenger to PSG

Davie Moyes to Arsenal

Trust me, this will happen  8)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on February 23, 2013, 11:50:55 PM
Today this happened.Tottenham u21s 4 Arsenal u21s 2!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2013, 12:31:28 AM
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Even God loves Jack...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 24, 2013, 09:10:11 AM
After 27 games, Arsenal are only 2 points behind last season's mark and 3 points closer to Spurs.
The Van Persie effect was overrated.


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on February 24, 2013, 02:21:11 PM
On this day two years ago (not the actual date) approximately 50,000 Birmingham fans went to London for a day out, they left there as happy as they could ever hope to be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42Q_2MaS3Wo

Then the club went tits up.


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2013, 03:54:06 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2013, 09:10:11 AM
After 27 games, Arsenal are only 2 points behind last season's mark and 3 points closer to Spurs.
The Van Persie effect was overrated.

But where would they be if he was still playing for Arsenal, challenging?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 24, 2013, 09:59:59 PM
That's fantasy football Dinny.
Van Persie has moved on, looks the better player for it and Man U are a much better team for having him. He got the credit for keeping Arsenal in the top 3 last season, from those who couldn't find it in their hearts to give Wenger his due credit.
He's not with Arsenal in this troubled season, yet Wenger has Arsenal in very similar position, in what matters, the league.
The proof will be in the position at the end of the season.
I doubt if the Podolski gamble has paid the expected dividend but I haven't seen enough of his games.
I'd say you can look forward to better signings and lasting a bit longer than 6 minutes in the last 16 of next year's CL.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 24, 2013, 10:15:04 PM
Yes but this time last year Arsenal won 7 out of the next 8 games as well as watching Spurs crash and burn. If he does that again he truly wears a magic hat.

Also, you can see the year on year deterioration of overall quality in the football.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2013, 10:22:02 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2013, 09:59:59 PM
That's fantasy football Dinny.
Van Persie has moved on, looks the better player for it and Man U are a much better team for having him. He got the credit for keeping Arsenal in the top 3 last season, from those who couldn't find it in their hearts to give Wenger his due credit.
He's not with Arsenal in this troubled season, yet Wenger has Arsenal in very similar position, in what matters, the league.
The proof will be in the position at the end of the season.
I doubt if the Podolski gamble has paid the expected dividend but I haven't seen enough of his games.
I'd say you can look forward to better signings and lasting a bit longer than 6 minutes in the last 16 of next year's CL.

Podolski, Giroud Cazorla and now Monreal were good buys and having the Dutch sulk would have given Arsenal better options, of course it's all hypothetical and it really is Arsenal's defensive structure that's the main problem. I think as you hint that Wenger will learn from this season but with Spurs developing, the Manchester machine looking relentless and the 2 oil clubs not to mention a possible resurgent Liverpool will it be enough to keep him beyond the end of next season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 27, 2013, 12:07:26 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2013, 10:22:02 PM


Podolski, Giroud, Cazorla and now Monreal were good buys

I'd hold fire on that. Unable to break down Bradford and Blackburn.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on February 27, 2013, 12:13:51 AM
There will be no Spurs meltdown this year.We have an undistracted and totally focussed manager this season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 27, 2013, 09:38:16 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 27, 2013, 12:07:26 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2013, 10:22:02 PM


Podolski, Giroud, Cazorla and now Monreal were good buys

I'd hold fire on that. Unable to break down Bradford and Blackburn.

Better Arsenal teams lost to worse teams than those, you can't look at games in isolation. Arsenal league position is pretty relative to what they spend on wages. They refuse to spend more, should we expect them to, do Arsenal fans now have a sense of entitlement?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: trileacman on February 27, 2013, 10:14:12 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2013, 10:22:02 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2013, 09:59:59 PM
That's fantasy football Dinny.
Van Persie has moved on, looks the better player for it and Man U are a much better team for having him. He got the credit for keeping Arsenal in the top 3 last season, from those who couldn't find it in their hearts to give Wenger his due credit.
He's not with Arsenal in this troubled season, yet Wenger has Arsenal in very similar position, in what matters, the league.
The proof will be in the position at the end of the season.
I doubt if the Podolski gamble has paid the expected dividend but I haven't seen enough of his games.
I'd say you can look forward to better signings and lasting a bit longer than 6 minutes in the last 16 of next year's CL.
A possible resurgent Liverpool.

Whatever about the others, you have nothing to fear from us. West Brom, Everton or Stoke are as likely to become regular top 4 finishers as Liverpool.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 28, 2013, 08:50:26 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 27, 2013, 09:38:16 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 27, 2013, 12:07:26 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 24, 2013, 10:22:02 PM


Podolski, Giroud, Cazorla and now Monreal were good buys

I'd hold fire on that. Unable to break down Bradford and Blackburn.

Better Arsenal teams lost to worse teams than those, you can't look at games in isolation. Arsenal league position is pretty relative to what they spend on wages. They refuse to spend more, should we expect them to, do Arsenal fans now have a sense of entitlement?

I'd argue the better Arsenal teams losing to worse opposition statement. Can only think of Wrexham in '92.

What gets me about the wage structure - Wenger is the best paid manager in the Premier League (Or was until recently - not sure of Fergie's latest deal). Yet the players are nowhere near the top earners in the league, far from it. I read that the gap between a manager's wage and his team's top player's wage was the greatest at Arsenal than at any other team in Europe.

It's healthy to ask these questions - not a form of entitlement.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on March 02, 2013, 11:31:35 PM

Consortium set to bid £1.5bn for Arsenal
By ESPN staff

An Arab consortium is considering making a bid for Arsenal in the near future, according to reports in The Sun on Sunday and Sunday Telegraph.

Arsenal fans will hope the news means further reinvestment in the team

American Stan Kroenke is currently the club's majority shareholder, while Uzbek Alisher Usmanov also holds a significant stake, and the offer for Arsenal would reportedly see the potential investors bid around £20,000 per share, making Kroenke's holding worth £830 million.

The papers report that the offer for 100% ownership will come in at around £1.5 billion - twice the amount at which Arsenal were valued two years ago - and, if successful, would wipe out debts that stand at around £250 million.

A bid source told Telegraph Sport: "Arsenal is at a pivotal position at the moment. The fear is that the club is facing a cycle of decline like Liverpool. From our point of view it is the perfect moment to make this bid because at this moment in time you can still genuinely justify this extraordinary valuation on the club.

"We will not bid for Arsenal if they go into decline. Kroenke and Usmanov will not get this kind of valuation if Arsenal do not succeed and will not get this kind of valuation ever again.

"We think that bidding now is the key because it is going to give every shareholder maximum value. We are giving them peak valuation. The amount of capital required to pump into Arsenal to make it competitive within England, Europe and the world means that the valuation cannot go any higher."


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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 02, 2013, 11:41:18 PM
Quote from: gerry on March 02, 2013, 11:31:35 PM

Consortium set to bid £1.5bn for Arsenal
By ESPN staff

An Arab consortium is considering making a bid for Arsenal in the near future, according to reports in The Sun on Sunday and Sunday Telegraph.

Arsenal fans will hope the news means further reinvestment in the team

American Stan Kroenke is currently the club's majority shareholder, while Uzbek Alisher Usmanov also holds a significant stake, and the offer for Arsenal would reportedly see the potential investors bid around £20,000 per share, making Kroenke's holding worth £830 million.

The papers report that the offer for 100% ownership will come in at around £1.5 billion - twice the amount at which Arsenal were valued two years ago - and, if successful, would wipe out debts that stand at around £250 million.

A bid source told Telegraph Sport: "Arsenal is at a pivotal position at the moment. The fear is that the club is facing a cycle of decline like Liverpool. From our point of view it is the perfect moment to make this bid because at this moment in time you can still genuinely justify this extraordinary valuation on the club.

"We will not bid for Arsenal if they go into decline. Kroenke and Usmanov will not get this kind of valuation if Arsenal do not succeed and will not get this kind of valuation ever again.

"We think that bidding now is the key because it is going to give every shareholder maximum value. We are giving them peak valuation. The amount of capital required to pump into Arsenal to make it competitive within England, Europe and the world means that the valuation cannot go any higher."


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Very interesting. Another pr stunt by the board to appease fans and encourage season ticket sales?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 03, 2013, 04:53:44 PM
Now where did I put that Heroin?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2013, 05:05:27 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 03, 2013, 04:53:44 PM
Now where did I put that Heroin?

Still think he is the right man Dinny??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 03, 2013, 05:15:53 PM
I think it's kicking in now as I could have sworn I saw Mertesacker score.

End of season is when you judge. Be careful what you wish for as they say.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2013, 05:34:24 PM
Madness taking jenkinson off. He offers threat in behind. Giroud is bi-polar. Either great or awful. Get podolski on and Walcott up top!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 03, 2013, 05:57:34 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 03, 2013, 06:56:48 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 03, 2013, 05:15:53 PM

End of season is when you judge. Be careful what you wish for as they say.

What does that actually mean Dinny? What do you wish for?

Wenger to remain and finish top 4 again, and again, and again whilst all the time getting further away from winning the league, champions' league or anything for that matter? Is that it? Is that what we want?

Wenger's genius in the early years will never be forgotten but the club needs a new direction now, even if that means finishing outside the top 4 for a while. This top 4 thing - what has it actually done for the club? I cannot see Arsenal luring world class players or the money being used to keep their best. Every year they're getting tanked in the knock-out stage now. What's the point of finishing in the top four if there's nothing to show for it - to the point that the standard of football is worsening.

I'd rather get a new man in with a new approach - we know what Wenger can do and the football he wants to produce but if the club are happy with 3rd or 4th every year without even coming close to winning anything - well - there's something cowardly in that.  It's repetitively boring and the gradual slide is hard to watch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: trileacman on March 03, 2013, 07:21:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 03, 2013, 06:56:48 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 03, 2013, 05:15:53 PM

End of season is when you judge. Be careful what you wish for as they say.

What does that actually mean Dinny? What do you wish for?

Wenger to remain and finish top 4 again, and again, and again whilst all the time getting further away from winning the league, champions' league or anything for that matter? Is that it? Is that what we want?

Wenger's genius in the early years will never be forgotten but the club needs a new direction now, even if that means finishing outside the top 4 for a while. This top 4 thing - what has it actually done for the club? I cannot see Arsenal luring world class players or the money being used to keep their best. Every year they're getting tanked in the knock-out stage now. What's the point of finishing in the top four if there's nothing to show for it - to the point that the standard of football is worsening.

I'd rather get a new man in with a new approach - we know what Wenger can do and the football he wants to produce but if the club are happy with 3rd or 4th every year without even coming close to winning anything - well - there's something cowardly in that.  It's repetitively boring and the gradual slide is hard to watch.

Methinks you'll beg for the Wenger days to return not long after he leaves. Like Armagh post-Kernan you'll look back with fondness at the time you were competitors even if back then not everything was golden. Ask any Liverpool fan. Were we happier with a clueless Benitez ingraining a "hoof-to-Torres" mantra whilst playing CL football or are we now better off with a potentially good but unproven passing manager settling us in to mid-table mediocrity? I'd have Carragher and Kuyt earning an often underserved 4th everyday over the flipside of supporting a team and saying "our football deserves more than 8th".
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 03, 2013, 07:29:27 PM
What are these 'Wenger days'? Keeping the club in the top 4 whilst travelling at speed away from the top?

I know it's miraculous what he's done over the last 16 years but it's stagnant now. There's no sign of improvement or returning to the days when world class players gave the club a chance of competing at the highest level.

It all depends on what Arsenal want. Wenger might keep them at the top table indefinitely but a blind man can see the gradual decline.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 03, 2013, 07:38:05 PM
Who would be the best man to lead Arsenal forward? If the Arsenal board decided to part company with Wenger.

Not a Arsenal fan, but how could they get they get any momentum from one seaon to the next when the best players leave every summer. Can't be all for Financial reasons, Arsenal don't pay as high as wages as other clubs, and are generating money from the CL every season, reaching the knockout stages most years.

Since Petit and Overmas, its been a constant flow Leaving Le Arsenal..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 03, 2013, 07:46:54 PM
It's been clear recently that it's not financial alone. Wenger's judgement on players has been worsening each year. The list of sub-standard signings is lengthening. The you have players who seem to be going backwards at the club. Vermaelen, Gervinho, Rosicky, Ramsey, Gibbs, Mertesecker, Diaby, Koscielny. Players like Chamakh and Gervinho came to the club with glowing reputations but wilted at Arsenal. Santos FFS. That fella Park? What was that. Bendtner. I fear for Cazorla, Podolski, Giroud and Oxlade Chamberlain - that they might depreciate as players here.

As for Wilshere - how does he feel when he looks around that the shower around him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2013, 07:47:30 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 03, 2013, 07:38:05 PM
Who would be the best man to lead Arsenal forward? If the Arsenal board decided to part company with Wenger.

Not a Arsenal fan, but how could they get they get any momentum from one seaon to the next when the best players leave every summer. Can't be all for Financial reasons, Arsenal don't pay as high as wages as other clubs, and are generating money from the CL every season, reaching the knockout stages most years.

Since Petit and Overmas, its been a constant flow Leaving Le Arsenal..

I'd love to see either Jurgen Klopp from Dortmund or Diego Simone from Athletico Madrid. Both teams break with pace and play fast counter attacking football. This style works best in the premiership. If your going to play the passing style then you need 11 players with excellent technique. Arsenal maybe have 2-3 players that can play to that level. Look at Mertesacker, Ramsey, Giroud, Podolski to name but a few. Not that style of player. Can someone tell me what the hell has the ox done wrong not to get a game. This theory that Wenger is great at bringing through young players is a myth. Fabregas and Wilshere are just super talents. Nothing to do with Wenger!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 03, 2013, 08:09:11 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2013, 07:47:30 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on March 03, 2013, 07:38:05 PM
Who would be the best man to lead Arsenal forward? If the Arsenal board decided to part company with Wenger.

Not a Arsenal fan, but how could they get they get any momentum from one seaon to the next when the best players leave every summer. Can't be all for Financial reasons, Arsenal don't pay as high as wages as other clubs, and are generating money from the CL every season, reaching the knockout stages most years.

Since Petit and Overmas, its been a constant flow Leaving Le Arsenal..

I'd love to see either Jurgen Klopp from Dortmund or Diego Simone from Athletico Madrid. Both teams break with pace and play fast counter attacking football. This style works best in the premiership. If your going to play the passing style then you need 11 players with excellent technique. Arsenal maybe have 2-3 players that can play to that level. Look at Mertesacker, Ramsey, Giroud, Podolski to name but a few. Not that style of player. Can someone tell me what the hell has the ox done wrong not to get a game. This theory that Wenger is great at bringing through young players is a myth. Fabregas and Wilshere are just super talents. Nothing to do with Wenger!

Yeah Klopp has been a breath of fresh air with the football Dortmund have been playing in the Bundesliga and CL. He is contracted there for another 2 years. The German League is getting stronger, starting to attract big name players again, and big name managers like Pep. German clubs. The German

Average age of the Dortmund side is 23, only way is up for them. Marco Reus joined Dortmund over Munich so that was a big statement.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2013, 08:39:15 PM
Reus is an excellent player. Think he started his career at Dortmund. Big fan of the Bundesliga!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on March 04, 2013, 10:16:48 AM
The Dortmund style is interesting in that they don't appear to be interested in the possession game - they regularly (comfortably) win games with less than 40% possession.  They are smash and grab artists, and are very good at it - I think they'll make the last 4 of the CL and who knows after that. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 04, 2013, 10:46:14 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 03, 2013, 06:56:48 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 03, 2013, 05:15:53 PM

End of season is when you judge. Be careful what you wish for as they say.

What does that actually mean Dinny? What do you wish for?

Wenger to remain and finish top 4 again, and again, and again whilst all the time getting further away from winning the league, champions' league or anything for that matter? Is that it? Is that what we want?

Wenger's genius in the early years will never be forgotten but the club needs a new direction now, even if that means finishing outside the top 4 for a while. This top 4 thing - what has it actually done for the club? I cannot see Arsenal luring world class players or the money being used to keep their best. Every year they're getting tanked in the knock-out stage now. What's the point of finishing in the top four if there's nothing to show for it - to the point that the standard of football is worsening.

I'd rather get a new man in with a new approach - we know what Wenger can do and the football he wants to produce but if the club are happy with 3rd or 4th every year without even coming close to winning anything - well - there's something cowardly in that.  It's repetitively boring and the gradual slide is hard to watch.

It means that that maybe just maybe that Arsenal have plateaued as a club and that no matter who you have as a manager results will not get better. Everyone knows Arsenal cannot compete with Man United, Chelsea and Man City on buying players and paying the kind of wages they pay, there is probably 30 players between those 3 clubs earning more than Arsenal's top player. There is no salary cap, it's not a fair market and that is a reality, Arsenal are at their level whether the fans like it or not.  I just can't see some magical appointment changing all that so for me it's definitely better the devil you know. 

You know this pressure from fans, this ludicrous sense of entitlement is having a negative affect on Arsenal, Arsenal are performing better away from home, why is that? 

Arsenal will probably still finish 3rd/4th, that to me is an achievement so when the stadium is finally paid off and some sort of FFP is in place then I think Wenger should be judged and only then. Just don't hold your breath waiting for FFP
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Premier Emperor on March 04, 2013, 10:55:36 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 04, 2013, 10:46:14 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 03, 2013, 06:56:48 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 03, 2013, 05:15:53 PM

End of season is when you judge. Be careful what you wish for as they say.

What does that actually mean Dinny? What do you wish for?

Wenger to remain and finish top 4 again, and again, and again whilst all the time getting further away from winning the league, champions' league or anything for that matter? Is that it? Is that what we want?

Wenger's genius in the early years will never be forgotten but the club needs a new direction now, even if that means finishing outside the top 4 for a while. This top 4 thing - what has it actually done for the club? I cannot see Arsenal luring world class players or the money being used to keep their best. Every year they're getting tanked in the knock-out stage now. What's the point of finishing in the top four if there's nothing to show for it - to the point that the standard of football is worsening.

I'd rather get a new man in with a new approach - we know what Wenger can do and the football he wants to produce but if the club are happy with 3rd or 4th every year without even coming close to winning anything - well - there's something cowardly in that.  It's repetitively boring and the gradual slide is hard to watch.

It means that that maybe just maybe that Arsenal have plateaued as a club and that no matter who you have as a manager results will not get better. Everyone knows Arsenal cannot compete with Man United, Chelsea and Man City on buying players and paying the kind of wages they pay, there is probably 30 players between those 3 clubs earning more than Arsenal's top player. There is no salary cap, it's not a fair market and that is a reality, Arsenal are at their level whether the fans like it or not.  I just can't see some magical appointment changing all that so for me it's definitely better the devil you know. 

You know this pressure from fans, this ludicrous sense of entitlement is having a negative affect on Arsenal, Arsenal are performing better away from home, why is that? 

Arsenal will probably still finish 3rd/4th, that to me is an achievement so when the stadium is finally paid off and some sort of FFP is in place then I think Wenger should be judged and only then. Just don't hold your breath waiting for FFP
Wages? I thought Wenger was earning more than Ferguson and that Arsenal tickets are the dearest in the Premier League.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2013, 11:14:23 PM
Robin must be kicking himself.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 13, 2013, 08:39:29 PM
If still 1-0 after 66, fire on Gervinho, Arshavin and Oxlade. Take off three defenders. 1-8-1. Go down in flames 6-6.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 13, 2013, 09:30:34 PM
My word.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Bord na Mona man on March 13, 2013, 09:31:33 PM
Another Michael Thomas?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 13, 2013, 09:35:31 PM
Well done Arsenal fine win and effort.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 13, 2013, 09:38:19 PM
Great effort. Now do it again at Swansea.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on March 13, 2013, 09:41:30 PM
Great effort me hole. Two shots on target and both went in.
They done nothing from the time the first goal went in till they scored at the end.
Munich were poor and the score line masks how bad Arsenal were.
I'm glad they are out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 13, 2013, 09:42:51 PM
Lol Seeing Arsenal win 2 nil and knowing it's not good enough is even more enjoyable than seeing them lose!  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 13, 2013, 09:44:01 PM
Lol Seeing Arsenal win 2 nil and knowing it's not good enough is even more enjoyable than seeing them lose!  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballinaman on March 13, 2013, 09:44:12 PM
Bizarre game. Arsenal win 2-0 and remember how to defend. Munich were muck.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 13, 2013, 09:46:17 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 13, 2013, 09:44:12 PM
Bizarre game. Arsenal win 2-0 and remember how to defend. Munich were muck.

Great to see that type of defending again. Fantastic effort.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 13, 2013, 09:46:49 PM
Arteta really demonstrating his nous as captain by fouling twice in injury time and ensuring Arsenal dont even get a last hoof into the box.

So second rate it's untrue.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 13, 2013, 09:51:22 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on March 13, 2013, 09:46:49 PM
Arteta really demonstrating his nous as captain by fouling twice in injury time and ensuring Arsenal dont even get a last hoof into the box.

So second rate it's untrue.

Yes - infuriating.

If Arsenal can defend like that they'll be thereabouts around 4th. Even Mertesecker.

Are they the first team to keep Munich scoreless at home this season?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 13, 2013, 09:52:45 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 13, 2013, 09:46:17 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on March 13, 2013, 09:44:12 PM
Bizarre game. Arsenal win 2-0 and remember how to defend. Munich were muck.

Great to see that type of defending again. Fantastic effort.

No surprise, the Belgian wasn't playing. Jenkinson is turning into a good full-back. Arteta was poor tonight and Ramsey is just infuriating.

The race for the final 2 UCL will be interesting, Spuds will implode as usual, Chelski very inconsistent and the delusionalists might not be so delusion for the next 10 games....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 13, 2013, 09:59:01 PM
Yep - thought Kochelney did well. Even Gibbs stayed in position for the entire game. Munich seemed to be clueless as to how to play that game. They were surprisingly nervous but Arsenal made them look average due to the chasing down all over the field.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 13, 2013, 10:09:04 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 13, 2013, 09:41:30 PM
Great effort me hole. Two shots on target and both went in.
They done nothing from the time the first goal went in till they scored at the end.
Munich were poor and the score line masks how bad Arsenal were.
I'm glad they are out.

Back to your own thread you clown!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 14, 2013, 08:30:09 AM
Unlucky last night, especially considering who they were missing.

I asked this question before, but is Wenger given money to spend and he simply choses to not spend it or is he not being given any dosh?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on March 14, 2013, 09:16:21 AM
Strange game indeed, Arsenal coming away with a 2 nil win, though not quite as bizarre a game as when Bendtner missed that gilt edge chance at the Camp Nou.
Rosicky, a player in a key position, took about 60 minutes to get tuned in to stroking an accurate pass. Bayerns' ineffectiveness in front of goal was more due to their ineptitude on the night, than Arsenals' defending. Robben couldn't pass or shoot straight. The Arsenal forays on the right side, with a clutter of players, was headless chicken stuff. Yet they won and with a bit more ..... (insert some word of choice) they could have managed to knock Bayern out on their backside.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 17, 2013, 10:18:09 AM
Nice to see Ramsey and the Head make an impact off the bench. Looks like the cycle is going to continue.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 17, 2013, 04:57:59 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 17, 2013, 10:18:09 AM
Nice to see Ramsey and the Head make an impact off the bench. Looks like the cycle is going to continue.

The Belgian's absence still not missed.

Great win.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 31, 2013, 12:24:43 PM
(http://www.thedaisycutter.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/84707450_rocastle_135099c-e1364304392461.jpg)

Hard to believe 12 years dead today, one of my all time favourite Arsenal players.

Nice article here...

http://www.thedaisycutter.co.uk/2013/03/david-rocastle-rip-gentleman-and-arsenal-footballing-legend/ (http://www.thedaisycutter.co.uk/2013/03/david-rocastle-rip-gentleman-and-arsenal-footballing-legend/)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 07, 2013, 11:27:14 PM
That was a nervy last 20 yesterday. Gervinho's some crack. Plays like me sometimes and then does something match-winningly good.

Interesting scenario now. Arsenal play three times (home to Norwich and Everton/away to Fulham) before Spurs play their next game (home to City). If they managed somehow to win those three they'll be 8 ahead having played two games more.

Just hope the Mertesecker suspension doesn't unnerve the side. They can be brittle like that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 13, 2013, 04:49:05 PM
Another comfortable afternoon!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on April 13, 2013, 04:53:39 PM
http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 13, 2013, 05:04:42 PM
Quote from: laoislad on April 13, 2013, 04:53:39 PM
http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/

Long time since we won the League alright.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 13, 2013, 05:05:06 PM
Yes, don't feel any older after that. All under control.

v Everton midweek. Massive. The big 6 (Utd, City, Arse, Chel, Spurs, Eve) all in position for the final few games again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 13, 2013, 06:24:02 PM
The worst team Wenger has managed since he arrived in England yet only 6 points of second. EPL standards are declining.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 13, 2013, 06:56:53 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 13, 2013, 06:24:02 PM
The worst team Wenger has managed since he arrived in England yet only 6 points of second. EPL standards are declining.

But 18 off top... 8)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 13, 2013, 07:45:18 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 13, 2013, 06:24:02 PM
The worst team Wenger has managed since he arrived in England yet only 6 points of second. EPL standards are declining.
That's beyond doubt. Last season, Man U's performance against Basel and Bilbao was more of a true reflection of the EPL standard than Chelsea winning the CL. And as good a magician as we know Wenger to be, not even he could manage this sustained 'attack' (without Van Persie) for a top 4 place, achieving the same points as last season, unless EPL standards have dropped even lower than last season.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2013, 08:34:25 PM
0-0 at half time. Two teams playing with confidence. Everton are extremely well organised and much more physical than I expected. A draw wouldn't be a bad result.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 16, 2013, 08:47:08 PM
Second half needs a few goals or the main talking point will be Ian Wright glasses.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2013, 08:49:04 PM
I can see Wilshere milling Mirrallas the first chance he gets.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2013, 09:12:15 PM
That's the first I've seen of Ross Barkley. Great prospect for Everton.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on April 16, 2013, 09:18:43 PM
@Woolberto: Classic move by Mirallas squirting the water on Wilshire. I once did the same thing to Paul Casey in Croker #COYB
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 16, 2013, 09:38:10 PM
Good result for Tottenham and Chelsea.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2013, 09:39:02 PM
0-0. Fair result. Everton one of the better teams Arsenal have played at the Emirates.

Could be a crucial point with Chelsea to play Spurs in a few rounds.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on April 16, 2013, 10:39:44 PM
Will Wilshere start next game? What i seen Saturday he was poor and same tonight,is Wenger afraid of leaving him out  :o ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2013, 10:46:31 PM
You'd imagine he'll give Jack a break at the weekend, bringing Rosicky back in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 16, 2013, 10:56:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 16, 2013, 09:39:02 PM
0-0. Fair result. Everton one of the better teams Arsenal have played at the Emirates.

Could be a crucial point with Chelsea to play Spurs in a few rounds.

Yep draw keeps Everton at arms length and with Arsenal's superior goal difference it means UCL qualification is in their own hands still.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 17, 2013, 04:27:24 PM
It looks doable but barely.
Though I don't know if Wenger can take the pressure. He could spontaneously combust should Fulham put in a tackle on Saturday.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on April 17, 2013, 04:58:19 PM
I hear there's talk of Real Madrid wanting to talk to Wenger - could be an out for the Prof and Arsenal.  Any talk about it among Gooners?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 17, 2013, 05:11:43 PM
He has one year left on his contract, could be just posturing.

He's a control freak so can't see Madrid been a realistic opportunity for him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on April 17, 2013, 11:15:19 PM
bad result yesterday and tonight for us
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 17, 2013, 11:39:52 PM
Quote from: gerry on April 17, 2013, 11:15:19 PM
bad result yesterday and tonight for us

Didn't think it was that bad, Gerry. Everton are a good side. Spurs yet to play City and Chelsea. Chelsea have the Euro games to be thinking about as well as Spurs and Everton.

Need to be beating Fulham on Sat. Draw that and it's uphill.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 18, 2013, 12:44:18 AM
Chelsea have Lpool and Utd away with Everton and Spurs at home.

I think Arsenal will come 3rd tbh.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 18, 2013, 09:21:58 AM
Yes Chelsea's run in is by far the most difficult but they are in impressive form.
It will be very tight if they get past Basel. Tottenham can afford to have a couple of spring breaks with their schedule especially if their game with Chelsea is postponed for a week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on April 18, 2013, 10:22:01 AM
First away since January isn't that impressive of form.

Hopefully now with a more rigid schedule it can focus the players a bit better.

Some goal by Luiz!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on April 18, 2013, 12:27:37 PM
I know Everton are a good side and still have something to play for. Hopefully it's not the start if the a a slide
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 18, 2013, 01:58:47 PM
I haven't seen much of Fulham but I thought they were quite good against Arsenal earlier this season and considering they had Arsenal on the ropes at Craven Cottage last season when Arsenal had the remnants of a top team, one can reasonably suspect a repeat of last season's win for Fulham.
Jol has a good record against Wenger, since he took charge at Fulham.

Arsenal board should consider giving Pellegrini a call. What's the worst that can happen?
You'd think, considering how quick Chelsea dispose of managers, that an Arsenal with cash available to build a team, would be the perfect challenge for Pellegrini. Pellegrini is more Arsenal than Chelsea.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 20, 2013, 07:05:06 PM
 
Quote from: ONeill on April 17, 2013, 11:39:52 PM
Quote from: gerry on April 17, 2013, 11:15:19 PM
bad result yesterday and tonight for us

Didn't think it was that bad, Gerry. Everton are a good side. Spurs yet to play City and Chelsea. Chelsea have the Euro games to be thinking about as well as Spurs and Everton.

Need to be beating Fulham on Sat. Draw that and it's uphill.

What's that they say about teams who win while playing poorly. Falling over the UCL qualification line....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 20, 2013, 09:24:11 PM
What's that they say about teams who win while playing poorly ....... against 10 men?

I suspect that in the future, the name Sidwell (whenever mentioned) will raise a happy memory and yet some bemusement at the same time, as in a bizarre (assist) intervention which happened along the way.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 20, 2013, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 20, 2013, 09:24:11 PM
What's that they say about teams who win while playing poorly ....... against 10 men?

I suspect that in the future, the name Sidwell (whenever mentioned) will raise a happy memory and yet some bemusement at the same time, as in a bizarre (assist) intervention which happened along the way.

(http://www.7amkickoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/sidwell1.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 20, 2013, 10:49:35 PM
That was a dreadful last 20 mins to watch. The Gods are smiling on the Arse.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on April 21, 2013, 04:04:28 PM
Massive win for spurs today. Arsenal barely scraping past poor teams. Will (as usual) be destroyed by Utd and will have to pray Chelsea and a.n.other do them some favours..

This is the tipping point season. At least every other year Arsenal have had a world class player to bail  them out. This year THFC have that player and Arsenal are stuck with the likes of Arteta and Ramsey.

The Diaby experiment was doomed to failure.  He's not even that good when fit.

Carzola is a less effective, less consistent Mata. A nice cog in a good team. Not the main man.

Wilshire is just back from (another) injury and Arsenal really need to find his best position. At present he is far from the saviour of English football.

Gervinho. Lets just say it hasn't worked in the EPL and leave it at that.

Gotta wonder how Verm has gone so badly downhill.
Giroud is a decent player with a solid return for his first season (more than Bergkamp and RvP in theirs) and should not be blamed.

Players in positions of need like Loris, Vertongen etc  were available - Spurs bought, Arsenal didn't. Blame lies either with the board or Wenger........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 22, 2013, 08:37:11 PM
What ever happened to that waster Van Persie?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 22, 2013, 10:12:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 22, 2013, 08:37:11 PM
What ever happened to that waster Van Persie?

He was no Jeremie Aliadiere.

Hope Man Utd go on the beer for the week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: front of the mountain on April 23, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
What do the Gunners & Ryan Giggs have in common???

Ans: Same amount of league titles......:)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 23, 2013, 09:57:40 AM
That is absolutely brilliant. Well done.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 23, 2013, 02:29:11 PM
Quote from: front of the mountain on April 23, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
What do the Gunners & Ryan Giggs have in common???

Ans: Same amount of league titles......:)

Both scored with a late ball to Thomas.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on April 26, 2013, 09:09:45 PM
It think I posted something like this before but,

Why Arsenal really COULD get Cesc Fabregas back.....

There has been an eruption of Arsenal rumours lately suggesting that Cesc Fabregas' emotional return to Barcelona has gone wrong and he is now regularly left on the bench. This could have something to do with his old "father" Pep Guardiola leaving the club last summer, and it seems that the new coach Tito Villanova wants to offload the ex-Arsenal captain to fund some new arrivals during the coming transfer window.

Obviously just because Barca don't want him doesn't mean he'll return to Arsenal. Or does it? Well the Mirror is reporting that as Barcelona were negotiating a cut-price return for their prodigal son, they also agreed that Arsenal would have first refusal if they decided to sell at some point in the future, and not only that but Barca would have to give the Gunners FIFTY PER CENT of the fee if Cesc was sold to any other club!

With that premise Barcelona would make much less money if Fabregas went somewhere other than Arsenal, and if you add to that the fact that Barca bought Cesc in installments which are still to be paid to us then it all starts to make sense that the best and most logical thing for Barcelona to do is to let Fabregas return to the Emirates.

I am sure that Wenger would like nothing more than to bring back his prodigy, as he said when the sale finally went through. Wenger said: "We sold Cesc for a reduced fee. If he was on the market to any club, we would have got more money; but we wanted to get a decent fee.

"You cannot say, because you want to get the deal done as quickly as possible, 'Just take him and give us what you want.' You have to fight for your rights.

"If Cesc is for sale and you can make an auction between Real Madrid, Chelsea, Man City, you will certainly get more money, but he just wanted to go to Barcelona.

"Cesc has given us eight years. It was a pleasure to work with him on a daily basis. I didn't know how determined Barcelona was to go to the end of this deal.

"But I think he was quite clear in his head. If you understand one thing, it is Cesc did not go for financial reasons, or that he did not love this club – Cesc went because he was desperate to play for his home town where he was educated.

"You know how highly I rate him. I think he is one of the best midfielders in the world for sure."

So although yesterday it seemed like Fabregas returning to Arsenal seemed to be unattainable, in reality it is LIKELY to happen if Barcelona do decide he is surplus to requirements...

http://justarsenal.com/why-arsenal-really-could-get-cesc-fabregas-back/22441 (http://justarsenal.com/why-arsenal-really-could-get-cesc-fabregas-back/22441)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on April 27, 2013, 04:27:46 PM
worth a read before tomorrow

This Sunday every Arsenal fans worst nightmare is happening. When Van Persie left and joined Man United in the Summer, there was always the possibility that he would win the league. Now he returns to the Emirates for the first time as a League Champion, and the Arsenal players will be giving the United team a guard of Honour.

As much as every Arsenal fan would love to vent their anger at Van Persie and jeer the Guard of Honour, the fans should instead change their attention to the board.

All the boards fault

Every year Arsenal fans have become accustomed to losing their best players during the summer, from Fabregas to Nasri to Van Persie last summer. These players leave and the board takes in all the money, without spending it on quality replacements. It is for this reason why the players are leaving.

When our best players are continually sold and not replaced, while ticket prices increase, it shows how our board lack ambition and are only after profit, so why would any player want to stay and play in a mediocre team when they could be off winning titles.

As much as Gunners may be in uproar with players decisions to leave, most notably Van Persie and Samir Nasri, you have to ask the question, can you really blame them? Since they left the Gunners they have both vindicated their decision to leave by winning the league (with Nasri looking set to add an FA Cup), whilst Arsenal have stagnated.

Don't disrespect the guard of honour

Many Arsenal fans will be looking at Sunday's game for a chance to take aim at Van Persie, and disrespect the Guard of Honour. I would suggest not to do this.

Arsenal is a club built on strong traditions and class, and to disrespect Van Persie or the Guard of Honour, would show a complete lack of class, diminishing what Arsenal stand for.

Instead Arsenal fans should turn their attention to the board, whose sole intent appears to be to increase their wealth, while Arsenal fall further behind the other clubs in the league, as we currently sit 21 points behind united. This simply is not good enough.

If Arsenal want to compete again in the near future then things need to change at board level, and we need to keep our best players, as well as spending the 'warchest' which we a promised each transfer window.

The board need a kick start to get them spending, so it is up to Arsenal fans to show the board what they think.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 27, 2013, 08:42:26 PM
Unlike most Arsenal supporters (I think) I bear no ill-will against Van Persie. At his stage in his career he was correct to go seek silverware that his talent deserves. He was at Arsenal for 7-8 years, albeit injured for a lot of it. I was happy to see him get his medal and play so well. Envious but not angry.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 27, 2013, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2013, 02:29:11 PM
Quote from: front of the mountain on April 23, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
What do the Gunners & Ryan Giggs have in common???

Ans: Same amount of league titles......:)

Both scored with a late ball to Thomas.

Oh come on, I thought that was actually a good one. Have any of you an Imogenation?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 27, 2013, 08:50:53 PM
No laughing in the library please.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 27, 2013, 08:51:17 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 27, 2013, 08:50:53 PM
No laughing in the library please.

Sorry Professor, won't happen again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 08:56:58 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 27, 2013, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2013, 02:29:11 PM
Quote from: front of the mountain on April 23, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
What do the Gunners & Ryan Giggs have in common???

Ans: Same amount of league titles......:)

Both scored with a late ball to Thomas.

Oh come on, I thought that was actually a good one. Have any of you an Imogenation?

It gave me a wry smile.

As for RVP - I don't believe players leave looking for silverware I think that is always a smoke screen like in any job you leave for more money. That's why I would respect Steven Gerrard more than RVP, Nasri or any player who proclaims he's leaving for the trophies. All bullshit they leave for the fat wedge that lines their and their agents pockets.

RVP great player but just another mercenary to me same as 99% of footballers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 27, 2013, 09:16:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 08:56:58 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 27, 2013, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2013, 02:29:11 PM
Quote from: front of the mountain on April 23, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
What do the Gunners & Ryan Giggs have in common???

Ans: Same amount of league titles......:)

Both scored with a late ball to Thomas.

Oh come on, I thought that was actually a good one. Have any of you an Imogenation?

It gave me a wry smile.

As for RVP - I don't believe players leave looking for silverware I think that is always a smoke screen like in any job you leave for more money. That's why I would respect Steven Gerrard more than RVP, Nasri or any player who proclaims he's leaving for the trophies. All bullshit they leave for the fat wedge that lines their and their agents pockets.

RVP great player but just another mercenary to me same as 99% of footballers.

Yeah, I say their ego get a rap on the knuckles when these players meet up with other players during the international breaks. You can imagine rooming with a player with less ability than yourself and him talking about winning, it would have to affect you?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 27, 2013, 09:28:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 08:56:58 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 27, 2013, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2013, 02:29:11 PM
Quote from: front of the mountain on April 23, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
What do the Gunners & Ryan Giggs have in common???

Ans: Same amount of league titles......:)

Both scored with a late ball to Thomas.

Oh come on, I thought that was actually a good one. Have any of you an Imogenation?

It gave me a wry smile.

As for RVP - I don't believe players leave looking for silverware I think that is always a smoke screen like in any job you leave for more money. That's why I would respect Steven Gerrard more than RVP, Nasri or any player who proclaims he's leaving for the trophies. All bullshit they leave for the fat wedge that lines their and their agents pockets.

RVP great player but just another mercenary to me same as 99% of footballers.
I think you are lacking some thought process Dinny.
Though I don't know what his financial gain was, I'd say Van Persie left Arsenal for the chance of winning some medals and will also gladly take the financial renumeration that his talent is currently paid by such a club as Man U.
If it was just about money, do you think he would have left Arsenal to  sign a 4 year deal with some billionaire japanese team that offered him twice the money he would get from joining ManU?
That's a hypothetical question of course, but if the answer to that is no  then we can say that the fat wedge is not everything, it's a part of the equation, the other part is competition with the best team in the country.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 27, 2013, 09:33:48 PM
Of course he is a mercenary, otherwise he would have never left Excelsior.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 09:58:33 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 27, 2013, 09:28:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 08:56:58 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 27, 2013, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2013, 02:29:11 PM
Quote from: front of the mountain on April 23, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
What do the Gunners & Ryan Giggs have in common???

Ans: Same amount of league titles......:)

Both scored with a late ball to Thomas.

Oh come on, I thought that was actually a good one. Have any of you an Imogenation?

It gave me a wry smile.

As for RVP - I don't believe players leave looking for silverware I think that is always a smoke screen like in any job you leave for more money. That's why I would respect Steven Gerrard more than RVP, Nasri or any player who proclaims he's leaving for the trophies. All bullshit they leave for the fat wedge that lines their and their agents pockets.

RVP great player but just another mercenary to me same as 99% of footballers.
I think you are lacking some thought process Dinny.
Though I don't know what his financial gain was, I'd say Van Persie left Arsenal for the chance of winning some medals and will also gladly take the financial renumeration that his talent is currently paid by such a club as Man U.
If it was just about money, do you think he would have left Arsenal to  sign a 4 year deal with some billionaire japanese team that offered him twice the money he would get from joining ManU?
That's a hypothetical question of course, but if the answer to that is no  then we can say that the fat wedge is not everything, it's a part of the equation, the other part is competition with the best team in the country.

You are been romantic - his deal is worth in the region of £200k  a week plus a 10m loyalty bonus. Arsenal were offering in the region of £130k a week. It was a no brainer and nothing to do with trophies that was just an added bonus.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 27, 2013, 10:00:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 08:56:58 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 27, 2013, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2013, 02:29:11 PM
Quote from: front of the mountain on April 23, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
What do the Gunners & Ryan Giggs have in common???

Ans: Same amount of league titles......:)

Both scored with a late ball to Thomas.

Oh come on, I thought that was actually a good one. Have any of you an Imogenation?

It gave me a wry smile.

As for RVP - I don't believe players leave looking for silverware I think that is always a smoke screen like in any job you leave for more money. That's why I would respect Steven Gerrard more than RVP, Nasri or any player who proclaims he's leaving for the trophies. All bullshit they leave for the fat wedge that lines their and their agents pockets.

RVP great player but just another mercenary to me same as 99% of footballers.

Don't agree. Could've done a Beckham.

I'm sure RVP looked around him last season and saw Walcott, Chamakh et al and thought what the hell. The squad was weakening year on year since he won the cup in 2005. VP wanted proven world class talent in the squad. Wenger couldn't/wouldn't guarantee that. He deserved an arena like Old Trafford.

As for being a mercenary - he's Dutch - not born and bred in Islington.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 10:07:59 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 27, 2013, 10:00:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 08:56:58 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 27, 2013, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2013, 02:29:11 PM
Quote from: front of the mountain on April 23, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
What do the Gunners & Ryan Giggs have in common???

Ans: Same amount of league titles......:)

Both scored with a late ball to Thomas.

Oh come on, I thought that was actually a good one. Have any of you an Imogenation?

It gave me a wry smile.

As for RVP - I don't believe players leave looking for silverware I think that is always a smoke screen like in any job you leave for more money. That's why I would respect Steven Gerrard more than RVP, Nasri or any player who proclaims he's leaving for the trophies. All bullshit they leave for the fat wedge that lines their and their agents pockets.

RVP great player but just another mercenary to me same as 99% of footballers.

Don't agree. Could've done a Beckham.

I'm sure RVP looked around him last season and saw Walcott, Chamakh et al and thought what the hell. The squad was weakening year on year since he won the cup in 2005. VP wanted proven world class talent in the squad. Wenger couldn't/wouldn't guarantee that. He deserved an arena like Old Trafford.

As for being a mercenary - he's Dutch - not born and bred in Islington.

That's my point 99% are mercenaries and they all follow the money. Talking about trophies is just romantic bullshit imho.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 27, 2013, 10:12:31 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 10:07:59 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 27, 2013, 10:00:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 08:56:58 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 27, 2013, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2013, 02:29:11 PM
Quote from: front of the mountain on April 23, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
What do the Gunners & Ryan Giggs have in common???

Ans: Same amount of league titles......:)

Both scored with a late ball to Thomas.

Oh come on, I thought that was actually a good one. Have any of you an Imogenation?

It gave me a wry smile.

As for RVP - I don't believe players leave looking for silverware I think that is always a smoke screen like in any job you leave for more money. That's why I would respect Steven Gerrard more than RVP, Nasri or any player who proclaims he's leaving for the trophies. All bullshit they leave for the fat wedge that lines their and their agents pockets.

RVP great player but just another mercenary to me same as 99% of footballers.

Don't agree. Could've done a Beckham.

I'm sure RVP looked around him last season and saw Walcott, Chamakh et al and thought what the hell. The squad was weakening year on year since he won the cup in 2005. VP wanted proven world class talent in the squad. Wenger couldn't/wouldn't guarantee that. He deserved an arena like Old Trafford.

As for being a mercenary - he's Dutch - not born and bred in Islington.

That's my point 99% are mercenaries and they all follow the money. Talking about trophies is just romantic bullshit imho.

Compare Shearer and Andy Cole.

Does the number of trophies won matter?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 10:21:27 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 27, 2013, 10:12:31 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 10:07:59 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 27, 2013, 10:00:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 08:56:58 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 27, 2013, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2013, 02:29:11 PM
Quote from: front of the mountain on April 23, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
What do the Gunners & Ryan Giggs have in common???

Ans: Same amount of league titles......:)

Both scored with a late ball to Thomas.

Oh come on, I thought that was actually a good one. Have any of you an Imogenation?

It gave me a wry smile.

As for RVP - I don't believe players leave looking for silverware I think that is always a smoke screen like in any job you leave for more money. That's why I would respect Steven Gerrard more than RVP, Nasri or any player who proclaims he's leaving for the trophies. All bullshit they leave for the fat wedge that lines their and their agents pockets.

RVP great player but just another mercenary to me same as 99% of footballers.

Don't agree. Could've done a Beckham.

I'm sure RVP looked around him last season and saw Walcott, Chamakh et al and thought what the hell. The squad was weakening year on year since he won the cup in 2005. VP wanted proven world class talent in the squad. Wenger couldn't/wouldn't guarantee that. He deserved an arena like Old Trafford.

As for being a mercenary - he's Dutch - not born and bred in Islington.

That's my point 99% are mercenaries and they all follow the money. Talking about trophies is just romantic bullshit imho.

Compare Shearer and Andy Cole.

Does the number of trophies won matter?


Shearer signed for Southampton as a kid and then followed the money to Blackburn (could have signed for Man U but less money) and won one league title before following the money to Newcastle.

Cole signed for Arsenal as kid, didn't work out and joined Bristol, did well and followed the money to Newcastle and then Man U, won a heap of trophies. Maximised his revenue potential in latter years as moved from club to club.

Shearer was the better player, Cole won more trophies. Not sure what point you are making to be honest.

If RVP was offered the same money at Arsenal as Man U were offering and still moved well then yea he moved to win trophies but he wasn't and he didn't.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 27, 2013, 10:26:35 PM
I should have been clearer.

It doesn't matter that Cole won more than Shearer.

The only things that matter are how much money they have and the more intangible, how they are regarded.

Shearer probably wins on both counts, if that is the case then trophies don't matter.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 10:31:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 27, 2013, 10:26:35 PM
I should have been clearer.

It doesn't matter that Cole won more than Shearer.

The only things that matter are how much money they have and the more intangible, how they are regarded.

Shearer probably wins on both counts, if that is the case then trophies don't matter.

I get you, yea same page.

Trophies mean more to fans than players, a sad reality.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 27, 2013, 10:52:43 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 10:07:59 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 27, 2013, 10:00:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 08:56:58 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 27, 2013, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2013, 02:29:11 PM
Quote from: front of the mountain on April 23, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
What do the Gunners & Ryan Giggs have in common???

Ans: Same amount of league titles......:)

Both scored with a late ball to Thomas.

Oh come on, I thought that was actually a good one. Have any of you an Imogenation?

It gave me a wry smile.

As for RVP - I don't believe players leave looking for silverware I think that is always a smoke screen like in any job you leave for more money. That's why I would respect Steven Gerrard more than RVP, Nasri or any player who proclaims he's leaving for the trophies. All bullshit they leave for the fat wedge that lines their and their agents pockets.

RVP great player but just another mercenary to me same as 99% of footballers.

Don't agree. Could've done a Beckham.

I'm sure RVP looked around him last season and saw Walcott, Chamakh et al and thought what the hell. The squad was weakening year on year since he won the cup in 2005. VP wanted proven world class talent in the squad. Wenger couldn't/wouldn't guarantee that. He deserved an arena like Old Trafford.

As for being a mercenary - he's Dutch - not born and bred in Islington.

That's my point 99% are mercenaries and they all follow the money. Talking about trophies is just romantic bullshit imho.

I suppose that's all it can be - an opinion. My reading, from having probably read everything about him or what he has said since he joined Arsenal, is that he's not your Nasri or Adebayor. He had no obligation or moral responsibility to stay with Arsenal. A wealthy man already, he had some glaring omissions in his trophy cabinet.

I've always found Alan Smith to be a sober judge - too sober for TV though. He said at the time:

Former Gunners striker Alan Smith does not believe, however, that the Dutchman was swayed to turn his back on the club by the riches the likes of City can offer.

"From what I have heard from people close to Robin he's not motivated by money," he said.

"I think at his age, he's 28, it's about winning medals. He's in his peak years now. I truly believe in this case he wants to win things in the next few years when he can.

"That doesn't reflect well, of course, on Arsenal. It's really disappointing from Arsenal's point of view.

"But Robin van Persie is looking at the next few years when he's 28, 29, 30; he thinks they can't win trophies. You don't want to say it but you probably have to agree with him."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 11:04:45 PM
Alan Smith is the business of selling newspapers, he hardly wants to alienate his audience, his opinion has it's own agenda. Football is a soap opera, people want to believe the fairy tale.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 27, 2013, 11:28:08 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 11:04:45 PM
Alan Smith is the business of selling newspapers, he hardly wants to alienate his audience, his opinion has it's own agenda. Football is a soap opera, people want to believe the fairy tale.

Don't understand that view about Smith. Surely by saying that he's alienating Arsenal fans. If he said he left for money, the only 'audience' he alienates is the Van Persie family.

Ian Wright, who'd be quick to shoot his mouth off said "The Londoners' club skipper is heading to Old Trafford because he must believe playing for United will give him a better chance of winning things."

Frank McClintock said at the start of the previous season that Van Persie would leave because Arsenal were showing no ambition to win things and he was proven 100% correct.

George Graham: "He knows he can get a better offer elsewhere but it's not just about an offer, it is about winning trophies and Arsenal haven't won a trophy for five or six years and that comes into the equation, whether the club are ambitious enough."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 27, 2013, 11:45:36 PM
I remember as a kid reading one of those soccer mag interview. The player was Arsenal's Frank Stapleton. The only answer I remember was to the question "Fav other club?:. Frank said "Man. Utd."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 27, 2013, 11:50:09 PM
(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/VanPersie.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 28, 2013, 12:03:27 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 27, 2013, 11:28:08 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 11:04:45 PM
Alan Smith is the business of selling newspapers, he hardly wants to alienate his audience, his opinion has it's own agenda. Football is a soap opera, people want to believe the fairy tale.

Don't understand that view about Smith. Surely by saying that he's alienating Arsenal fans. If he said he left for money, the only 'audience' he alienates is the Van Persie family.

Ian Wright, who'd be quick to shoot his mouth off said "The Londoners' club skipper is heading to Old Trafford because he must believe playing for United will give him a better chance of winning things."

Frank McClintock said at the start of the previous season that Van Persie would leave because Arsenal were showing no ambition to win things and he was proven 100% correct.

George Graham: "He knows he can get a better offer elsewhere but it's not just about an offer, it is about winning trophies and Arsenal haven't won a trophy for five or six years and that comes into the equation, whether the club are ambitious enough."

Most of those guys played when there was no money in the game unless in a brown envelope in George's case. They are no relation to the modern footballer. Smith writes for a national newspaper his audience is bigger than just Arsenal fans, he knows football is soap opera and fans want to believe players care more about trophies than money. The others are all Arsenal fans to a man and the bottom lie in their thinking if Arsenal spent money on players they can't afford and paid RVP his worth, well he would have stayed. It's all about the money.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 28, 2013, 12:09:38 AM
Do you honestly thing he left for 200'000 a year instead of 130'000 a year and no other reason?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 28, 2013, 12:14:13 AM
Quote from: muppet on April 27, 2013, 11:45:36 PM
I remember as a kid reading one of those soccer mag interview. The player was Arsenal's Frank Stapleton. The only answer I remember was to the question "Fav other club?:. Frank said "Man. Utd."

Yeah, I remember Frank going up to receive a winners FA Cup medal (with Arsenal) wearing a Man Utd Jersey in 1979!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 28, 2013, 12:19:40 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 28, 2013, 12:09:38 AM
Do you honestly thing he left for 200'000 a year instead of 130'000 a year and no other reason?

Do I think he left for the money? Yes I do and I don't begrudge him over 4 years he was going to be 25m approx better off. (70k x 52 x 4 + 10m reported loyalty bonus + 10% signing fee. )

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 28, 2013, 12:22:46 AM
Ha! A year says I.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 28, 2013, 11:38:32 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 10:21:27 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 27, 2013, 10:12:31 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 10:07:59 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 27, 2013, 10:00:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2013, 08:56:58 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 27, 2013, 08:45:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 23, 2013, 02:29:11 PM
Quote from: front of the mountain on April 23, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
What do the Gunners & Ryan Giggs have in common???

Ans: Same amount of league titles......:)

Both scored with a late ball to Thomas.

Oh come on, I thought that was actually a good one. Have any of you an Imogenation?

It gave me a wry smile.

As for RVP - I don't believe players leave looking for silverware I think that is always a smoke screen like in any job you leave for more money. That's why I would respect Steven Gerrard more than RVP, Nasri or any player who proclaims he's leaving for the trophies. All bullshit they leave for the fat wedge that lines their and their agents pockets.

RVP great player but just another mercenary to me same as 99% of footballers.

Don't agree. Could've done a Beckham.

I'm sure RVP looked around him last season and saw Walcott, Chamakh et al and thought what the hell. The squad was weakening year on year since he won the cup in 2005. VP wanted proven world class talent in the squad. Wenger couldn't/wouldn't guarantee that. He deserved an arena like Old Trafford.

As for being a mercenary - he's Dutch - not born and bred in Islington.

That's my point 99% are mercenaries and they all follow the money. Talking about trophies is just romantic bullshit imho.

Compare Shearer and Andy Cole.

Does the number of trophies won matter?


Shearer signed for Southampton as a kid and then followed the money to Blackburn (could have signed for Man U but less money) and won one league title before following the money to Newcastle.

Cole signed for Arsenal as kid, didn't work out and joined Bristol, did well and followed the money to Newcastle and then Man U, won a heap of trophies. Maximised his revenue potential in latter years as moved from club to club.

Shearer was the better player, Cole won more trophies. Not sure what point you are making to be honest.

If RVP was offered the same money at Arsenal as Man U were offering and still moved well then yea he moved to win trophies but he wasn't and he didn't.
That's where you meet your own standards of the bullshit argument :)  Arsenal didn't offer the same contract.
As it stands, his agent managed to secure an excellent improved contract and Van Persie was also able to follow an ambition. 

It would have been silly to think his agent would have settled for a similar contract in the current player salary madness, from the club Van Persie chose.
Just because the agent & Van Persie weren't silly, does not mean that ambition had no place in Van Persie's reasons for leaving Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 28, 2013, 12:33:52 PM
Wenger calls Robin an oul woman:

"He's an honest guy, Robin. He got to 29 and thought, "Can we win the Championship here or do I have more chances somewhere else?" There's a kind of timescale like for a woman who has no baby at 39. She starts to think, "I have not much time left".'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2013, 12:49:21 PM
Think Arsenal will beat UTD today, a lot of hangovers I'd say after the celebrations of last week. No need to push hard and risk injuries, lot of players thinking of holidays now I'd say and not interested. Arsenal have a different agenda, Arsenal -1 11/4
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on April 28, 2013, 02:37:23 PM
Anyone know where I can get a stream of the game?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2013, 02:52:57 PM
Quote from: CorkMan on April 28, 2013, 02:37:23 PM
Anyone know where I can get a stream of the game?

http://www.firstrow1.eu/

I use this site, just scroll down to the fixture click on one of the links and it should work ok
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2013, 03:27:39 PM
Went for the enhanced offer today, RVP to score and Arsenal win, 9/1!!

I wonder will Tony put his up before teh end of the game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on April 28, 2013, 03:51:52 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2013, 02:52:57 PM
Quote from: CorkMan on April 28, 2013, 02:37:23 PM
Anyone know where I can get a stream of the game?

http://www.firstrow1.eu/

I use this site, just scroll down to the fixture click on one of the links and it should work ok

Sound
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 28, 2013, 04:44:15 PM
I think Sagna wanted Van Persie to score there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 28, 2013, 04:44:43 PM
Clown
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2013, 04:44:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 28, 2013, 03:27:39 PM
Went for the enhanced offer today, RVP to score and Arsenal win, 9/1!!

I wonder will Tony put his up before teh end of the game

Come on Arsenal lets get me a few quid up!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 28, 2013, 11:49:59 PM
3 games now.

away v QPR. The Harry hoor would love it. Just love it.
Home v Wigan. Fighting for their survival.
away v Newcastle. Hope they've survived by then.

Spurs:

Home v Southampton
Away v Chelsea
Away v Stoke
Home v Sunderland
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 28, 2013, 11:54:21 PM
The game in hand can be considered to be the Chelski - Spuds game.

If the 3 teams win all their other games then the only result in the above game that dooms Arsenal is a Spuds win. Any other result in that game and we simply have to match Spuds in their other 3 games which shouldn't be too hard.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 29, 2013, 12:02:46 AM
Yep. That Chelsea game is a midweek one. Hard to cheer on Terry et al but needs must.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 29, 2013, 12:24:47 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 28, 2013, 11:49:59 PM
3 games now.

away v QPR. The Harry hoor would love it. Just love it.
Home v Wigan. Fighting for their survival.
away v Newcastle. Hope they've survived by then.

Spurs:

Home v Southampton
Away v Chelsea
Away v Stoke
Home v Sunderland

On paper Chelsea have the toughest run-in

Away v Manchester United
Home v Tottenham
Away v Aston Villa
Home v Everton
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 04, 2013, 07:23:21 PM
Finished 1-0. Walcott after 18 secs. No fingers left.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 04, 2013, 07:34:23 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 04, 2013, 07:23:21 PM
Finished 1-0. Walcott after 18 secs. No fingers left.

I thought was awful stuff, like a pre-season friendly. Arsenal scored and that was it, QPR had near a bit of  bite. Would have liked a second goal mind.

Spurs were awful today, really poxed it and can't seem them getting anything against Chelsea.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 05, 2013, 11:36:50 PM
So what do we want on Wednesday?

A Spurs defeat or draw. I fancy a draw as it keeps Chelsea still in the mix if they slip up.

A Spurs win and it's a disaster.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 06, 2013, 01:21:58 AM
If there is a God he will surely grant Spurs a victory on Wednesday night to make up for the injustices of 2006 and 2012.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 06, 2013, 06:25:52 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 05, 2013, 11:36:50 PM
So what do we want on Wednesday?

A Spurs defeat or draw. I fancy a draw as it keeps Chelsea still in the mix if they slip up.

A Spurs win and it's a disaster.

A Chelsea win and Arsenal only need 4 points for the last spot. So for me it's blue is the colour, football is the game, we're altogether, winning is the aim.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on May 06, 2013, 10:53:11 AM
Chelsea winning at Man U was the worst possible result for Arsenal. You can write the script now with a 89th minute Bale winner coming on Wed night.

Not that Arsenal deserve a CL place on this years showing....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 06, 2013, 12:59:55 PM
Where's that chef?

"Prawns, Gareth?"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 14, 2013, 08:36:03 PM
1-1 at half time. Arsenal start flicking the ball when they go ahead. Wenger needs to fcuk it into them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on May 14, 2013, 09:10:44 PM
Big game for both teams, 21st goal for theo this season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 14, 2013, 09:38:23 PM
So, lasagne?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on May 14, 2013, 10:03:17 PM


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKQRRM8CYAA2Rh4.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 20, 2013, 04:49:42 PM
A Gooners season review in quotes..

Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 16, 2012, 02:03:41 AM
Meh! Scoring goals is hardly a problem for Man United, only one winner in that transfer. Impossible for Arsenal to contest for the EPL, they are a selling club and can't compete with either Manchester club or the big two in Spain and Chelsea as well. No big deal, they'll still finish top 4, no deluded sense of entitlement on this thread.

Quote from: ONeill on August 26, 2012, 10:51:12 PM
Listen, that was shit today.

Arsenal have replaced good players (Fabregas, Nasri, Clichy, RVP, Flamini etc) with inferior ones over the last few years. It's quite amazing how Wenger has kept them in the top 4 every year although VP did it almost single-handedly last year.

Walcott - crap, brainless, fruity, overhyped but the penny is dropping.
Gervinho - no bite, stupid, no awareness.
Ramsey - balls have disappeared since the injury. Lost.
Mertesecker - Just doesn't really care that much for the cause. Will do simple things but now losing aerial battles regularly.
Giroud/Podolski - no world beaters. Didn't impose themselves at all.
Chamberlain - overhyped
Arteta - a good player
Cazorla - excellent so far but noticeably greedier though he probably looks around him and knows to go it alone
Diaby - give me strength. No bite in the tackle. Doesn't want to know if someone slaps into him.
Vermaelen - fine player
Gibbs - can't pass accurately
Jenkinson - puts in a 'shift'

If Wenger can get that shower into the top four the man is a magician. Two 0-0s. I'd fear this year. I know this time last year was worse but VP was still there.

Quote from: Main Street on September 24, 2012, 10:15:58 PM
I watched the last 20 minutes of the game against Man City,
Arsenal looked contenders for the EPL title, not just a top 4 spot. The title is there for the taking.
Wenger is one relentless coach.


Quote from: AZOffaly on October 31, 2012, 11:31:49 AM
That was great craic. In fairness Arsenal are great value. The remind me of Brazil back in the Zico days. :D

Quote from: screenexile on December 12, 2012, 12:14:32 PM
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Quote from: T Fearon on February 16, 2013, 05:08:48 PM
Shite club,and in permanent decline now.About to scrap it out with Liverpool in the coming season for a Europa League place.

Quote from: T Fearon on February 27, 2013, 12:13:51 AM
There will be no Spurs meltdown this year.We have an undistracted and totally focussed manager this season

Quote from: ONeill on March 13, 2013, 09:51:22 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on March 13, 2013, 09:46:49 PM
Arteta really demonstrating his nous as captain by fouling twice in injury time and ensuring Arsenal dont even get a last hoof into the box.

So second rate it's untrue.

Yes - infuriating.

If Arsenal can defend like that they'll be thereabouts around 4th. Even Mertesecker.

Are they the first team to keep Munich scoreless at home this season?

Quote from: ONeill on April 20, 2013, 10:49:35 PM
That was a dreadful last 20 mins to watch. The Gods are smiling on the Arse.

Quote from: Minder on May 14, 2013, 10:03:17 PM


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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: deiseach on May 20, 2013, 04:52:10 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on February 16, 2013, 05:08:48 PM
Shite club,and in permanent decline now.About to scrap it out with Liverpool in the coming season for a Europa League place.

Wow, a Europa League place, what riches! Next year will be our year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 20, 2013, 04:54:19 PM
It's like Groundhog Day and we can't jump off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 20, 2013, 05:14:51 PM
Wenger has money to spend this summer, 70 million. Why do ye think he will get
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 20, 2013, 05:17:17 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 20, 2013, 05:14:51 PM
Wenger has money to spend this summer, 70 million. Why do ye think he will get

They have a chance of getting whoever Chelsea, Man City, Man United, Barca, Real Madrid, Munich don't want...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 20, 2013, 05:24:50 PM
Would love to see Rooney at the club and maybe Wanyama. Arteta's 31, Cazorla'll be 29, Sagna 30, Mertesacker turning 29, Koscielny turning 28, Vermaelen turning 28. Dunno what point I'm making.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 20, 2013, 05:48:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 20, 2013, 05:17:17 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 20, 2013, 05:14:51 PM
Wenger has money to spend this summer, 70 million. Why do ye think he will get

They have a chance of getting whoever Chelsea, Man City, Man United, Barca, Real Madrid, Munich don't want...

The way they celebrated at the final whistle yesterday was like news that Messi was joining the club. Another year of CL Fusball, bit ott celebrations - even if it's a money spinner.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 20, 2013, 06:07:31 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 20, 2013, 05:48:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 20, 2013, 05:17:17 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on May 20, 2013, 05:14:51 PM
Wenger has money to spend this summer, 70 million. Why do ye think he will get

They have a chance of getting whoever Chelsea, Man City, Man United, Barca, Real Madrid, Munich don't want...

The way they celebrated at the final whistle yesterday was like news that Messi was joining the club. Another year of CL Fusball, bit ott celebrations - even if it's a money spinner.

It's like a drug, finishing ahead of Spurs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 20, 2013, 09:26:28 PM
Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB4tk1LNM74&feature=youtube_gdata_player


The last game,the only one that counts ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 20, 2013, 10:35:57 PM
Jaysus Anthony that makes it even sweater. Thanks for that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on May 21, 2013, 12:45:39 AM
Wenger managed Arsenal to better last year's points total, minus Van Persie and with a better defensive record.
One of the managerial feats of the season, if not thee managerial feat of the season.
Another bright spot for Arsenal fans is that they won't have to grind their teeth over a best player leaving this summer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballinaman on May 21, 2013, 02:39:54 PM
http://eaglesthatlooklikearsenewenger.tumblr.com/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: deiseach on May 21, 2013, 03:06:42 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 21, 2013, 02:39:54 PM
http://eaglesthatlooklikearsenewenger.tumblr.com/

;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballinaman on May 21, 2013, 03:53:25 PM
Quote from: deiseach on May 21, 2013, 03:06:42 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 21, 2013, 02:39:54 PM
http://eaglesthatlooklikearsenewenger.tumblr.com/

;D
Pacing eagle is genius.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2013, 03:54:27 PM
Very good  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 21, 2013, 04:14:08 PM
Gary Lineker Gary Lineker ‏@GaryLineker  26m 
Astonishing stat that all 91 clubs, aside from Arsenal, have changed managers since Arsene Wenger last won a trophy








Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 03, 2013, 02:07:38 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 03, 2013, 02:10:01 PM
So while we await the announcement or not of Higuain

Higbury Images 1931-67 (http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/arsenal/169285/the-black-and-white-years-30-marvelous-vintage-photos-of-arsenals-highbury-stadium-between-1931-1967.html)

This one seems bizarre

(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/PA-2341750.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 03, 2013, 03:42:54 PM
(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/PA-634415.jpg)

Derrytresk still use this method today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 12, 2013, 10:45:26 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BO9oK8bCYAEUu6d.jpg:large)

Theo rarin to go.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 18, 2013, 11:40:51 AM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on July 18, 2013, 04:14:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMuUAtB9TtI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMuUAtB9TtI)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on July 19, 2013, 08:18:18 PM
ESPN Brasil reporting that Arsenal have signed Bernard form Atletico Mineiro. Just from watching this guys cameo appearances at the Confederations Cup, I think he'd be a great signing.

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/07/19/breaking-arsenal-agree-21m-deal-to-sign-brazilian-wonderkid-bernard-final/ (http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/07/19/breaking-arsenal-agree-21m-deal-to-sign-brazilian-wonderkid-bernard-final/)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 25, 2013, 01:28:32 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on July 18, 2013, 04:14:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMuUAtB9TtI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMuUAtB9TtI)

>:(

Different theme to the Transfer Soap Opera so far this summer, instead of who the Goons will sell it's more like who they won't buy..

At least THSTEL is still on the books...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on July 25, 2013, 08:57:05 AM
Wouldnt be surprised to see a winger signed and Theo be given a role up front!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 25, 2013, 10:45:58 AM
Sure Diaby will be back....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: All of a Sludden on July 25, 2013, 10:22:17 PM
(http://thumbsnap.com/s/FlWtqGuv.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 28, 2013, 08:04:23 PM
Another busy summer for Arsene.

(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Wenger1.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 29, 2013, 10:10:59 PM
Some more Arsene fun in the meantime


http://fuldans.se/?v=tpoljgeecn
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 03, 2013, 09:19:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcPsA2xybrc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 03, 2013, 09:27:27 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 03, 2013, 09:19:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcPsA2xybrc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Is the morning of a big match making you feel philosophical and reflective O'Neill?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on August 04, 2013, 10:17:08 AM
On a more somber note, Kenny Samson not doing so well at the moment.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23531912
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 08, 2013, 08:07:30 PM
Gervhino away to Roma for 8mil
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 09, 2013, 10:39:22 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on August 08, 2013, 08:07:30 PM
Gervhino away to Roma for 8mil

Not a fan's favourite but I thought there was something about him but given plenty of chances.

Weirdest transfer window yet under Wenger.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 09, 2013, 11:16:57 AM
Fenerbahce in the UCL qualifier.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 11, 2013, 09:06:13 AM
Tough enough draw that.

Looks like the Arse will be starting the season with the same side that finished 4th again.

Ramsey looks in good shape.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 14, 2013, 08:39:42 AM
Well lads, how do you see it going this year?

Same as usual?

League - hover around top 6. See off Liverpool by February, Spurs by April. Not good enough to challenge the top 3.

Cups - too focused on finishing in a CL place so rests a couple against Swansea and get dumped out.

CL. Squeeze into the knock outs. Draw Madrid or Barca.

Promises of big buys next summer.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2013, 02:28:45 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 14, 2013, 08:39:42 AM
Well lads, how do you see it going this year?

Same as usual?

League - hover around top 6. See off Liverpool by February, Spurs by April. Not good enough to challenge the top 3.

Cups - too focused on finishing in a CL place so rests a couple against Swansea and get dumped out.

CL. Squeeze into the knock outs. Draw Madrid or Barca.

Promises of big buys next summer.

Agree with that except think the History Channel will be gone by November and if Bale goes the Spuds will be gone by Christmas.

Good Blog post here

http://swissramble.blogspot.fr/ (http://swissramble.blogspot.fr/)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Declan on August 14, 2013, 03:34:58 PM
Question for Gooner fans. What are the chances of picking up a ticker for a home PL game at the Emirates?? I'm in London for a weekend in Nov and looking at the Liverpool game but I'd say it's unlikely they go on general admission?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Fuzzman on August 14, 2013, 03:55:12 PM
I used to go to matches in London the odd time when I lived there back in 2000. If you're going on your own and prepared to wait until just before KO then you'll be grand. It's harder getting two or more tickets together.

I used to go to Spurs games quite often but I went to Highbury twice. I used to set myself a rule of not paying more than £20 more than face value but I never ever had to. I would haggle or just wait til near kickoff. The last thing people want is to be stuck with a ticket and the match started

You have to be prepared to go round asking everyone though or use a wee sign saying ticket needed.
Not all sellers will walk around shouting tickets for sale. I tried to avoid touts and often laughted at the mad prices they'd be looking for.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on August 14, 2013, 04:40:14 PM
Quote from: Declan on August 14, 2013, 03:34:58 PM
Question for Gooner fans. What are the chances of picking up a ticker for a home PL game at the Emirates?? I'm in London for a weekend in Nov and looking at the Liverpool game but I'd say it's unlikely they go on general admission?

Dec, you can usually get your hands on a season ticket for €60-70 as long as it's not one of the major games - I can make inquiries for you if you have a particular game in mind.  Most of the Irish season ticket holders only attend 3-4 games annually and sell the rest through their contacts. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 14, 2013, 10:35:57 PM
Quote from: Declan on August 14, 2013, 03:34:58 PM
Question for Gooner fans. What are the chances of picking up a ticker for a home PL game at the Emirates?? I'm in London for a weekend in Nov and looking at the Liverpool game but I'd say it's unlikely they go on general admission?

I've a red ticket which moreorless guarantees a seat every home game apart from Spurs. Get in touch if you want it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on August 14, 2013, 11:17:20 PM
Its not all doom and gloom at Arsenal, Wenger has had a decluttering frenzy, got rid off about 30 players
and Bendtner is back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: All of a Sludden on August 17, 2013, 04:46:40 PM
Sin é
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 17, 2013, 04:50:02 PM
A bad start to the season for Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 17, 2013, 04:59:39 PM
Is David Healy available?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on August 17, 2013, 05:13:18 PM
Should give Fergie a call
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on August 17, 2013, 05:30:57 PM
Should've bought Benteke.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 17, 2013, 06:59:02 PM
That was a good season while it lasted.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 17, 2013, 07:09:40 PM
First 5 mins were class. Pace, power, clinical.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 17, 2013, 07:28:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 17, 2013, 07:09:40 PM
First 5 mins were class. Pace, power, clinical.
They mustn't have the desire to continue on though.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 17, 2013, 07:32:18 PM
Has there been a worse transfer decision than selling RVP to the best team in the country?
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 17, 2013, 07:55:01 PM
I'd say the Villa fans were over the moon with that third goal.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 17, 2013, 07:59:01 PM
Think Guus H is available.

Time for Wenger to get the boot.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Syferus on August 17, 2013, 08:01:32 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 17, 2013, 07:32:18 PM
Has there been a worse transfer decision than selling RVP to the best team in the country?

What choice did they have? Let him leave for next to nothing the next season? Arsenal weren't going to be in the title race with or without RVP.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: All of a Sludden on August 17, 2013, 08:06:38 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 17, 2013, 07:32:18 PM
Has there been a worse transfer decision than selling RVP to the best team in the country?

Was thinking the same myself.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 17, 2013, 08:11:28 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 17, 2013, 08:01:32 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 17, 2013, 07:32:18 PM
Has there been a worse transfer decision than selling RVP to the best team in the country?

What choice did they have? Let him leave for next to nothing the next season? Arsenal weren't going to be in the title race with or without RVP.

They could have taken a 10 million hit and sold him in Jan. Worst transfer in clubs history!
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Main Street on August 18, 2013, 01:04:10 AM
 It's patent nonsense to claim it's the worst transfer,
even to think Arsenal are rivals to Man U is delusional.
And even if it was considered a bad transfer, how quickly ye have forgotten the transfer of the century for Arsenal, Henry to Barca.
Probably one of the most ridiculous things a club can do is attempt to bludgeon one of their players as if they own him and hold their interests above and beyond the interests of the player. Clubs have no qualm about getting rid of other faithful players if they feel it's in their interests. Maybe Van Persie after serving his time with Arsenal, wanted to move to the best or a better team in England and didn't want to move out of England.
If Arsenal had any valid claims to hold onto Van Persie or attempt to control which club he goes to,  then they would have showed that ambition by making serious moves to sign players like Sanchez and Suarez around the time of WC 2010. Maybe then, Van Persie would not have got itchy feet. Probably most Arsenal fans wouldn't have had a clue about the quality of either player.
Arsenal was a plodding English club with occasional trophy success before Wenger came along. Now that he's raised Arsenal's standards to the point where top 4 is considered a failure of sorts, you think he's past his his end date.
There appear to be too many Arsenal supporters who just don't know how crap they could be, before Wenger came along. Even at his worst, Wenger is a country mile ahead of what went on before he came along.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: gerry on August 18, 2013, 07:19:13 AM
going to be a long two weeks

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p480x480/1098208_10201182751283776_46258779_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 18, 2013, 08:58:19 AM
Quote from: Main Street on August 18, 2013, 01:04:10 AM
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Arsenal was a plodding English club with occasional trophy success before Wenger came along. Now that he's raised Arsenal's standards to the point where top 4 is considered a failure of sorts, you think he's past his his end date.
There appear to be too many Arsenal supporters who just don't know how crap they could be, before Wenger came along. Even at his worst, Wenger is a country mile ahead of what went on before he came along.

That is incorrect. In the decade before Wenger arrived (under Graham) they won the league twice, league cup twice, FA Cup once, European Cup Winners' Cup once, reached that final again, went through a season losing 1 game conceding something like 17 goals.

Even under Rioch they finished 4th.

Wenger revolutionised the club ok but his judgement in recent years is undoubtably questionable. What's the point in qualifying for the CL every year when there's nothing to show for it - on the field or off. His failure to strengthen the side for the 4th consecutive year is baffling. Those fans pay for the most expensive seats in Europe but are left watching a worsening quality of player. 
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 18, 2013, 09:50:09 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 18, 2013, 08:58:19 AM
Quote from: Main Street on August 18, 2013, 01:04:10 AM
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Arsenal was a plodding English club with occasional trophy success before Wenger came along. Now that he's raised Arsenal's standards to the point where top 4 is considered a failure of sorts, you think he's past his his end date.
There appear to be too many Arsenal supporters who just don't know how crap they could be, before Wenger came along. Even at his worst, Wenger is a country mile ahead of what went on before he came along.

That is incorrect. In the decade before Wenger arrived (under Graham) they won the league twice, league cup twice, FA Cup once, European Cup Winners' Cup once, reached that final again, went through a season losing 1 game conceding something like 17 goals.

Even under Rioch they finished 4th.

Wenger revolutionised the club ok but his judgement in recent years is undoubtably questionable. What's the point in qualifying for the CL every year when there's nothing to show for it - on the field or off. His failure to strengthen the side for the 4th consecutive year is baffling. Those fans pay for the most expensive seats in Europe but are left watching a worsening quality of player. 

+1

Main Street continues to back Wenger to the hilt and snaps at anyone who dares question him!
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: joemamas on August 18, 2013, 12:59:59 PM
was at the game yesterday, very apparent after 20 mins that Villa were way more aggressive than Arsenal. midfield was pure crap, ramsey not good enough, walcott didn't want to know about it, mertisacker is not worth a shite, Bentek beat him in the air for almost every ball.

fans around me reckon that with this squad they will be luck to be in top six.  According to some of them Arsenal have no intention in signing Suarez and just bid that much up to screw real madrid, who seemingly screwed arsenal when a deal for hauigin was done at 24MM. Madrid came back a two weeks later and said price was now 33MM.

Met an older guy (season ticket holder for 40 years) on way out, was disgusted at criticism of Wenger, as according to him, Arsenal were pure crap until he came around 17 years ago, he credits him with having them play great football. he said the boo birds were all relatively new fans that have come on board in last 10-15 years. He also mentioned that stadium has been paid off, and unlike united, chelsea and others they are not up to their you know what in debt.

He said Wenger will right the ship eventually. interesting comments.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 18, 2013, 02:27:36 PM
Letter from Black scarf movement to Ivan Gazidis!

Dear Ivan,

We write to you as Arsenal's largest and fastest growing supporters' group, to convey our deep concern at the current state of our team going into the new season.

In early June, around season ticket renewal time, you were widely quoted following your Q&A event where you spoke about the club's new financial firepower and ambition moving forward. Many fans saw this as the club finally about to break free from the shackles of moving stadium; new commercial deals were coming into place, we had a vast amount of cash available in the bank, profit from the Queensland Road property project was secured, the vast increase in TV revenue was about to land on our doorstep, and after treading water since moving from Highbury it seemed as if we were finally going to push on.

What has happened since then is nothing short of a disgrace.

There have been noises coming out of the club over the summer that the market was slow, that other clubs weren't doing much, and that things take time if you're after top quality players. We feel all of these were poor excuses, designed to deflect focus away from our shortcomings.

The only positive of the summer has been the release of many players who were generally considered 'dead wood' – and naturally this frees up more cash for investment in the team. But with the departure of these players, virtually no movement has come in the opposite direction and we're now left with a squad severely lacking in depth and experience. Indeed, the squad registered for the Champions League in the last week had to be padded out with kids.

As a group we have been concerned for some time that the Board running our club has lost sight of the raison d'être i.e. we are Arsenal Football Club; not a business purely focused on posting profits year after year.

You will have seen the results of our end of season survey, which came out in favour of Arsene Wenger but with 70% stating that he has too much control over transfer negotiations and setting of wage levels at the club. The same survey revealed that 87% of fans feel the current Board of Arsenal is out of touch with the feeling among fans, and that 73% feel less valued by the club since we moved stadium.

It is our view as a group that the Board of Arsenal is too relaxed about the competitiveness of our team, and that as long as a top four place is secured, it is a case of 'job done'. This should never be the case but despite hearing you say you're not happy every time we end a season with nothing to really cheer about, nothing changes.

So in June following your statement of intent, fans were rightly hopeful but what has happened since then? Yet again we've spent the summer dithering while others around us have strengthened, and once more we start the season playing catch-up. With five competitive matches due before the transfer window closes, there is every chance that our season could be dealt a hammer blow before we've had a chance to take stock, and this weekend's defeat at home to Aston Villa should act as a huge wake-up call.

We are now in a situation where we're faced with a carbon copy of 2011, where it took an 8-2 humiliation at Manchester United to force a 'trolley dash' on the final day of the transfer window. Of course by then it was too late. For Arsenal to be in that situation once is unacceptable; for it to happen twice in three years will be unforgivable.

It is imperative that the Board of Arsenal does its job and manages the Manager – an employee of the club you are supposed to be running. What are Arsene Wenger's targets / KPIs set by the Board every year? Is the he not even answerable to the Board, with free rein to do as he pleases as long as he helps the business achieve a profit? Is he having to do all the running himself when it comes to transfers or if support is there, is he taking it? Clarity is required here because something clearly isn't right at the club when it comes to the acquisition of new players.

You put all the focus on the Arsene Wenger yourself at that Q&A session in June, but to fans there is little evidence of questions being asked of him; this despite approaching the end of the transfer window with no sign of needed, established quality coming in. Does the Board feel that it's been a good summer? Because we've now lost our opening game of the season, our squad is already blitzed by injury, once more today there were fans coming to blows in the stands. As a Board member, does this even bother you?

Of course if we used the funds we do have available, brought in top quality players and competed for prizes, in would come better commercial deals, you wouldn't have as much trouble trying to get corporate punters back into the stadium, and naturally the more successful we are it becomes easier to attract better players. Or is the Board too short-sighted to realise this?

A competitive team isn't one which scrapes the position of 4th best team in the league on the final day of the season and gets dumped out of domestic cup competitions by lower league opposition; you need to realise that most fans are aware of this fact. They're not duped by finishing in a position which may result in us playing in the Champions League. So what, if the cash from that competition is simply banked and never sees the light of day?

It should be noted that as long term fans of The Arsenal we've seen plenty of lean times and poor teams over the years. Silverware isn't the be all and end all; we follow this club out of pure love and will always do so. However, loyal matchgoing fans continue to walk away from Emirates Stadium, unwilling to part with their hard-earned cash when they feel let down and lied to by our Board. We pay the highest ticket prices in football after being sold a dream, but it's always a case of 'jam tomorrow' and many have seen through the spin.

Enough is enough.

If the Board is actually intent on making Arsenal a successful force in football once again, changes have to be made. Arsene Wenger should have experienced, qualified support to help bring in top quality players, and he needs to be managed effectively if the right business isn't being done.

Or if the Board is simply intent on milking the Arsenal brand for all its worth to the detriment of the team (but to the benefit of our bank account), season ticket prices at Emirates Stadium should be reduced accordingly. Our loyal fans should no longer have to bear the burden after doing so for many years.

Make no mistake, if there is not significant improvement in our playing squad over the next couple of weeks, the rapidly growing anger in the stands will become difficult to overturn. There hasn't been a poisonous atmosphere like this at Arsenal for over 30 years and the Board has simply stood by, while things have gone from bad to worse. I am sure you appreciate, this can no longer happen.

We look forward to your response in due course.

Yours faithfully,

Where Has Our Arsenal Gone (the Black Scarf Movement)
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 18, 2013, 07:03:11 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 17, 2013, 07:59:01 PM
Think Guus H is available.

Time for Wenger to get the boot.

Tyroneman after the game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7gSFEaI4HdA)
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: michaelg on August 18, 2013, 07:10:28 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 18, 2013, 07:03:11 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 17, 2013, 07:59:01 PM
Think Guus H is available.

Time for Wenger to get the boot.

Tyroneman after the game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7gSFEaI4HdA)
"I've had a - f**king - nough" Quality.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 19, 2013, 08:44:28 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/13578_438311092950173_1734134240_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 19, 2013, 10:42:02 AM
More bad news for Arsenal http://t.co/EC9Vxih6Sq
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 19, 2013, 12:50:26 PM
Some crack alright. Bender might even tog out,
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 19, 2013, 01:27:58 PM
Arsenal have made a bid for Johan Kebabs.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 19, 2013, 01:37:28 PM
What's going on with these bids?

Arsenal used to be stealth-like.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 19, 2013, 01:40:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 19, 2013, 01:37:28 PM
What's going on with these bids?

Arsenal used to be stealth-like.

Because Dick Law couldnt tie his shoe lace never mind close a deal.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 19, 2013, 11:02:40 PM
(http://www.abload.de/img/15wgo0nghp2p.gif)
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2013, 07:47:12 PM
Need a wee bit of bite tonight. Noisy crowd these Turks.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2013, 08:21:21 PM
Eventful few days for Koscielny - (http://i.minus.com/ib1QupugsK1gv7.gif)
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2013, 09:16:44 PM
Quadruple still on. Ramsey playing well tonight.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 21, 2013, 09:22:56 PM
Stroll in the park for Arsenal & this was suppose to be a tough tie away..
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 21, 2013, 11:15:54 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 21, 2013, 09:16:44 PM
Quadruple still on. Ramsey playing well tonight.

Definitely turned his career around. Playing at the emirates might be a noose for these guys....
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: pullhard on August 22, 2013, 07:26:16 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23790314

Been here before.
These two would be great signings, provided he signs a few centre backs and a decent midfielder or two...
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 22, 2013, 09:23:48 AM
Vintage!

Arsene gets criticised for not buying enough after a poor result, puts the word out Arsenal are going after a few big names, the results pick up then the fans settle down and still no transfers are made then Arsenal plod along in 4th again.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 22, 2013, 10:05:15 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 22, 2013, 09:23:48 AM
Vintage!

Arsene gets criticised for not buying enough after a poor result, puts the word out Arsenal are going after a few big names, the results pick up then the fans settle down and still no transfers are made then Arsenal plod along in 4th again.

Hey don't mock the cycle, it's what we Gooners live for...
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 22, 2013, 10:33:58 AM
Haha!
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 22, 2013, 11:15:12 AM
This is a good conspiracy theory

http://ladyarse.co.uk/arsenal/2013/08/did-arsenal-play-liverpool-in-order-to-sign-benzema/ (http://ladyarse.co.uk/arsenal/2013/08/did-arsenal-play-liverpool-in-order-to-sign-benzema/)
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 22, 2013, 08:27:10 PM
Wenger splashing out already, re-signing Flamini on a free.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: muppet on August 22, 2013, 08:45:28 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 22, 2013, 08:27:10 PM
Wenger splashing out already, re-signing Flamini on a free.

He was a good un but has only made 5 appearances in 2 years. Bad knee injury. He is exactly what Arsenal need though if he can re-find his form from when he played with Cesc.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: trileacman on August 22, 2013, 09:12:25 PM
Just considering how great the Arse made average players look. Flamini, Hleb, i'd even add Nasri. There is a host of others whom they sold for 20 odd million and went to piss afterwards. Even Cesc has not reached the preformances of his Arsenal days.

Any others I'm missing out on? Van Persie, Cole and Henry are some of the few I can think of who lived up to there reputation.

I'm not slighting arsenal, I'm just thinking of Flamini returning on a free compared to the player he once was.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on August 22, 2013, 09:49:01 PM

Any chance aston villa are just severely underestimated?
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 23, 2013, 08:48:36 PM
Podolski out to Shalke on loand and Wilshire saying he is committed to Arsenal as long as Arsene is there?
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2013, 02:42:13 PM
Handy win. You could be right about playing at home Dinny. Spurs next week.

But bejaysus that squad is thin.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Main Street on August 25, 2013, 11:46:39 PM
There may well be plenty of thunder coming from the chorus of empty vessels at the Emirates but I'm sure Wenger will have the team gritted for that treacherous possibility.

Strange one with Podolski, not good enough to be a first team default starter, about 3 years past his peak, but folly at the moment to let go.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 28, 2013, 12:05:08 AM
Another CL campaign awaits. Between now and next week I honestly can see Messi, Schweinsteiger and Lahm arriving.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: muppet on August 28, 2013, 03:56:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 28, 2013, 12:05:08 AM
Another CL campaign awaits. Between now and next week I honestly can see Messi, Schweinsteiger and Lahm arriving.

Patience, if we wait another 12 years we can get them on frees.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: All of a Sludden on September 01, 2013, 04:24:23 PM
Get IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 01, 2013, 06:40:44 PM
Thought the Spuds would have played some of their big signings today, ah well!
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 01, 2013, 06:51:17 PM
Boring mashing the Spuds. Wenger Out!
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 01, 2013, 06:58:37 PM
Good to see Flamini bring some anger to midfield. Absolute bargain.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Main Street on September 01, 2013, 08:27:47 PM
Wenger has said something to the extent that they are looking for special players for Arsenal, not just any tom dick or harry.
But somehow I get the impression that Arsenal have an 'inconspicuous agent' outside many of the epl  training grounds, "psst... wanna join Arsenal" "anyone for Arsenal".

Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 01, 2013, 09:40:26 PM
Ozil they say. Can he play CB?
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 01, 2013, 10:03:45 PM
Deal agreed between the clubs for 45 million. Yet another player Utd miss out on.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on September 02, 2013, 11:18:59 AM
United appear to be trying to hijack this... Arsenal also after Angel Di Maria apparently?
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: blewuporstuffed on September 02, 2013, 11:37:47 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 01, 2013, 10:03:45 PM
Deal agreed between the clubs for 45 million. Yet another player Utd miss out on.
apparently PSG have now come in with a better offer!!
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Main Street on September 02, 2013, 11:47:40 AM
That will offer some hope for Ozil.
According to reports in Spain, he definitely doesn't want to end up at Arsenal.

Do Arsenal have an image problem?
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 02, 2013, 01:06:45 PM
Quote from: Main Street on September 02, 2013, 11:47:40 AM
That will offer some hope for Ozil.
According to reports in Spain, he definitely doesn't want to end up at Arsenal.

Do Arsenal have an image problem?

He seems to have changed his mind. Looks odds on to sign by the 11pm deadline.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on September 02, 2013, 03:24:34 PM
Well looks like Arsene has taken note of the title of this thread. £42.5m apparently for Ozil.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on September 02, 2013, 03:26:30 PM
If he can get Di Maria as well he'll have done better business than any of his detractors. 
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on September 02, 2013, 03:44:06 PM
Apparently Real made a decision as to which they'd prefer to leave, and they decided they'd prefer to take the money for Ozil.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 02, 2013, 05:41:53 PM
So anyone sign yet?
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: muppet on September 02, 2013, 07:01:44 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 02, 2013, 05:41:53 PM
So anyone sign yet?

We have nearly, nearly completed the singing of Ozil.

We are this close:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTLOY77CMAArtZQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 02, 2013, 07:25:24 PM
Ozil would be prefect fit for Arsenal is Kaká still available?
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on September 02, 2013, 08:05:34 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 02, 2013, 07:25:24 PM
Ozil would be prefect fit for Arsenal is Kaká still available?

Kaka is gone back to AC I think.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 02, 2013, 08:22:45 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on September 02, 2013, 07:25:24 PM
Ozil would be prefect fit for Arsenal is Kaká still available?

Dunno about perfect fit when they have Cazorla, Ramsey, Rosicky, Wilshire and how many other attacking type midfield players. A striker is what they needed.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Syferus on September 02, 2013, 08:27:13 PM
I always look for the cheapest and youngest lad over 72 overall when I'm playing career mode in FIFA when I want a good striker, maybe Wenger can take a leaf from my book?
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: gerry on September 02, 2013, 08:30:31 PM
the ba deal seems to be of
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Main Street on September 02, 2013, 09:06:31 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 02, 2013, 01:06:45 PM
Quote from: Main Street on September 02, 2013, 11:47:40 AM
That will offer some hope for Ozil.
According to reports in Spain, he definitely doesn't want to end up at Arsenal.

Do Arsenal have an image problem?

He seems to have changed his mind. Looks odds on to sign by the 11pm deadline.
He didn't change his mind, he just had no other options.
Ozil is a very good player but must carry the most ridiculously overpriced transfer fee since Carroll's to Liverpool and probably has a hyper salary to boot.
His price has tripled in a few years, but he 's about the same quality player as he was when he first went to RM from the Bundesliga.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: gerry on September 02, 2013, 09:12:51 PM
 'Thrift Shop - Arsenal Deadline Day Remix' (Arsene Wenger ft. Ivan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO5nfQEqGOg&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Main Street on September 02, 2013, 09:20:56 PM
Any takers for Bendtner?
How much will Arsenal pay to entice a taker?
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Minder on September 02, 2013, 09:52:00 PM
@SiClancy There are a few nerves jangling about Ozil to Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: gerry on September 02, 2013, 09:55:19 PM
Quote from: Main Street on September 02, 2013, 09:20:56 PM
Any takers for Bendtner?
How much will Arsenal pay to entice a taker?

looks like he is staying, seeing the Ba deal fell through
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: laoislad on September 02, 2013, 10:45:57 PM
BREAKING NEWS: Arsenal have just sold Mesut Ozil to Manchester City for €60million.
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2013, 10:49:59 PM
Plenty of good players now but no real out and out striker
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: orangeman on September 02, 2013, 11:45:47 PM
Ozil good player - big money. He'd want to be good for that sort of money.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 03, 2013, 11:25:41 AM
Will be interesting to see where Wenger plays Ozil. Despite people feeling Arsenal dont need a creative player, they actually were poor last year in breaking teams down. Ozil has the best assist record in Europe and weighs in with 10-15 goals regularly. A top buy in my view!
Title: Re: Official "Spend Some F****** Money" Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 03, 2013, 12:10:59 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 02, 2013, 10:45:57 PM
BREAKING NEWS: Arsenal have just sold Mesut Ozil to Manchester City for €60million.

Plus Clichy and Nasri in return.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 03, 2013, 05:16:33 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on September 03, 2013, 11:25:41 AM
Will be interesting to see where Wenger plays Ozil. Despite people feeling Arsenal dont need a creative player, they actually were poor last year in breaking teams down. Ozil has the best assist record in Europe and weighs in with 10-15 goals regularly. A top buy in my view!

Yes, a striker would've been nice or a DM but the squad seems to have matured collectively.

Don't think it's good enough to challenge the 2 Manchesters and Chelsea but you never know.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on September 05, 2013, 11:50:59 AM
Germany, a football nation was in despair at the news that their most cherished player was forced to leave the Galactico Real Madrid and sent to coventry or in this case Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: deiseach on September 05, 2013, 12:05:47 PM
Quote from: Main Street on September 05, 2013, 11:50:59 AM
Germany, a football nation was in despair at the news that their most cherished player was forced to leave the Galactico Real Madrid and sent to coventry or in this case Arsenal.

There was a time when a wisecrack about what a German player's father might have done to Coventry would have worked. In the case of Mesut Özil though, not so much.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on September 05, 2013, 12:11:16 PM
Quote from: deiseach on September 05, 2013, 12:05:47 PM
Quote from: Main Street on September 05, 2013, 11:50:59 AM
Germany, a football nation was in despair at the news that their most cherished player was forced to leave the Galactico Real Madrid and sent to coventry or in this case Arsenal.

There was a time when a wisecrack about what a German player's father might have done to Coventry would have worked. In the case of Mesut Özil though, not so much.

There used to be a similar chant at Maine Rd, back in the day, something to do with Uwe Rossler's Da bombing various opponents towns - incidentally, Mr. Rossler is now manager of Brentford FC. 
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: deiseach on September 05, 2013, 12:25:39 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on September 05, 2013, 12:11:16 PM
There used to be a similar chant at Maine Rd, back in the day, something to do with Uwe Rossler's Da bombing various opponents towns - incidentally, Mr. Rossler is now manager of Brentford FC.

That's the one I was thinking of, much obliged for the refresher.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 05, 2013, 01:25:54 PM
Since the intellectual heavyweights of the board seem to be setting up camp here do Arsenal have the best midfield in the Premier League?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 05, 2013, 01:30:13 PM
Quote from: Main Street on September 05, 2013, 11:50:59 AM
Germany, a football nation was in despair at the news that their most cherished player was forced to leave the Galactico Real Madrid and sent to coventry or in this case Arsenal.

Well if we can take their national coach as a pointer, they are dismayed yes that Real Madrid sold him. They are delighted however that he came to a club like Arsenal, with a coach like Arsene.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 05, 2013, 01:42:34 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 05, 2013, 01:25:54 PM
Since the intellectual heavyweights of the board seem to be setting up camp here do Arsenal have the best midfield in the Premier League?

Potentially they do. I'm sure a few will allude to the fact they are missing a big powerful defensive mid. However Spurs had 3 big lads in the middle on Sunday and at times couldnt get near Arsenal.

Ramsey/Wilshere & Arteta/Flamini

Ox/Walcott       Ozil      Cazorla

Looks decent enough
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on September 05, 2013, 02:23:57 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on September 05, 2013, 12:11:16 PM
Quote from: deiseach on September 05, 2013, 12:05:47 PM
Quote from: Main Street on September 05, 2013, 11:50:59 AM
Germany, a football nation was in despair at the news that their most cherished player was forced to leave the Galactico Real Madrid and sent to coventry or in this case Arsenal.

There was a time when a wisecrack about what a German player's father might have done to Coventry would have worked. In the case of Mesut Özil though, not so much.

There used to be a similar chant at Maine Rd, back in the day, something to do with Uwe Rossler's Da bombing various opponents towns - incidentally, Mr. Rossler is now manager of Brentford FC.
I forgot, this is the Arsenal thread ::) where occasional intellect deficit outbreaks,
where getting 'sent to coventry', that well known phrase, gets confused with being a wisecrack about 'what a German player's father might have done to Coventry', even though there's absolutely no context for the confusion.


Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: deiseach on September 05, 2013, 02:38:04 PM
Quote from: Main Street on September 05, 2013, 02:23:57 PM
I forgot, this is the Arsenal thread ::) where occasional intellect deficit outbreaks,
where getting 'sent to coventry', that well known phrase, gets confused with being a wisecrack about 'what a German player's father might have done to Coventry', even though there's absolutely no context for the confusion.

Hmm. Looking back on it, I can see why you might think that I thought you were making a (failed) wisecrack. I can assure you I did not. I was using your point to make a general point about associating Germans with the city of Coventry and how that association is breaking down in these multicultural days. Apologies for the confusion.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 05, 2013, 03:48:26 PM
Quote from: Main Street on September 05, 2013, 02:23:57 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on September 05, 2013, 12:11:16 PM
Quote from: deiseach on September 05, 2013, 12:05:47 PM
Quote from: Main Street on September 05, 2013, 11:50:59 AM
Germany, a football nation was in despair at the news that their most cherished player was forced to leave the Galactico Real Madrid and sent to coventry or in this case Arsenal.

There was a time when a wisecrack about what a German player's father might have done to Coventry would have worked. In the case of Mesut Özil though, not so much.

There used to be a similar chant at Maine Rd, back in the day, something to do with Uwe Rossler's Da bombing various opponents towns - incidentally, Mr. Rossler is now manager of Brentford FC.
I forgot, this is the Arsenal thread ::) where occasional intellect deficit outbreaks,
where getting 'sent to coventry', that well known phrase, gets confused with being a wisecrack about 'what a German player's father might have done to Coventry', even though there's absolutely no context for the confusion.

Why do you hate the world?

You need love. We give you love.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 05, 2013, 03:51:15 PM
Walcott is slowly being surrounded by better players. It took Van Persie four years to work out where his passes were heading. Giroud is ahead of schedule.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 06, 2013, 03:12:17 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTfCVI-IgAAUikB.jpg)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on September 08, 2013, 02:02:43 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTo7qpwCAAEW3OY.jpg)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on September 08, 2013, 09:55:21 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2415392/Mesut-Ozil-chased-ex-Miss-Venezuela-Aida-Yespica-offloaded-Real-Madrid.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2415392/Mesut-Ozil-chased-ex-Miss-Venezuela-Aida-Yespica-offloaded-Real-Madrid.html)

All worn out! Madrid couldn't wait to offload Ozil after German star 'exhausted himself' chasing after former Miss Venezuela
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 08, 2013, 10:12:22 PM
John Terry - there's a new sheriff in town.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 08, 2013, 10:32:24 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 08, 2013, 10:12:22 PM
John Terry - there's a new sheriff in town.

Magic!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on September 14, 2013, 06:31:16 PM
Meh.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 14, 2013, 06:31:58 PM
Theo was crap. Arsene out.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 16, 2013, 07:42:27 PM
Bit crap having nothing to complain about. Top of the league. Giroud scoring. World class midfielder. Champions' League on horizon.

The women's team have been slipping this year. Sort it out FFS.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 16, 2013, 07:45:26 PM
Very tough CL group for Arsenal though. Dortmund no doubt, and Napoli with an impressive looking Squad.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 16, 2013, 07:50:11 PM
Yep - toughest in yonks. The squad is v thin at the minute too so no resting opportunities either.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 16, 2013, 07:52:27 PM
Say a few Hail Marys Giroud stays fit,. Don't know why they didn't bring in a forward with Podolski out. Plus a centre back.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Syferus on September 16, 2013, 08:16:22 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 16, 2013, 07:52:27 PM
Say a few Hail Marys Giroud stays fit,. Don't know why they didn't bring in a forward with Podolski out. Plus a centre back.

Mesut Ozil. Mesut Ozil.

Mesut Ozil. Put him anywhere. In goal, even.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 18, 2013, 07:30:20 PM
Subs: Fabianski, Vermaelen, Monreal, Jenkinson, Hayden, Ryo, Akpom

Who, who and who?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 18, 2013, 09:40:42 PM
Alright I suppose. Nice to be winning.

Napoli beating Dortmund means this is going to the wire.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 19, 2013, 01:16:16 AM
Ramsey?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 19, 2013, 09:48:46 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 19, 2013, 01:16:16 AM
Ramsey?

Mans on fire!! Got to hand it to him. Bouncing back from that injury. Be nice to see him score against Stoke at the weekend!!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 22, 2013, 11:06:40 PM
TOP
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 23, 2013, 06:57:38 AM
"Arsenal in Crisis" in crisis!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 24, 2013, 07:06:22 PM
(http://media.joe.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/BendtnerNick-Zlatan.jpg)

Like a new signing.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 25, 2013, 10:34:43 PM
Some performance by The Greatest Striker That Ever Lived. Banged into the post, whacked a couple of ballboys, an assist, flopped when completely through....will he score his penalty?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 25, 2013, 10:36:19 PM
....scores (chewing Wrigleys)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on September 25, 2013, 11:39:35 PM
Seeing as the other Championship is over for us now, I will take the annual hop out of the Mayo frying pan, into the Arsenal fire.

So where are we?

Let me guess.

10 points behind Spurs,
Sold Wilshere to Juvetus,
Bought Titus Bramble and Glenn Whelan,
Out of the League, Littlewoods, Carling, Onlychanceofa, Cup to Sotckport,
Fans baying for Wenger's blood;

Plus ça change....eh Arsene?


Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 28, 2013, 07:35:11 PM
It'll end in tears
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2013, 07:58:18 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 28, 2013, 07:35:11 PM
It'll end in tears

Poor old Tyroneman probably thinks he's finally lost it..
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2013, 08:10:39 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVPhvtAIMAAzi0b.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 29, 2013, 10:00:33 PM
Women lose their title.

Questions need to be asked.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on September 30, 2013, 07:42:46 PM
Liverpool won it.  An omen for the men? Ok maybe not.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 01, 2013, 10:08:10 PM
That was a very strong Arsenal performance. I liked Arteta and Flamini sitting in front of the back 4. That left Ozil, Ramsey, Rosicky and Giroud free to do what they want. When Theo, Cazorla, Podolski, Oxlade (and Wilshere) are fit there's a good opportunity for rotation.

Possible worries: Something happening to the back 4 or specifically the CBs (Verm an option). Giroud is also shouldering a lot of the weight up front.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 06, 2013, 05:57:54 PM
It's like 1989 all over again.

Good point today I thought, West Brom were well set-up. Big few week coming up after the inter-lull. Promising start regardless. Giroud was quiet today and the lack of a plan B in those instances is the only worry.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 08, 2013, 07:14:25 AM
If Arsene tops up the squad in Jan, Arsenal have a chance of doing something big this year. Flamini has been a cute buy. A Henrik Larsson type mid-season purchase would go down well.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 08, 2013, 09:07:48 AM
I said something similar back in May. Probably a bit premature for me to say I told you so though :)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 19, 2013, 03:41:42 PM
Nice - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uUcjadx7sU
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on October 19, 2013, 05:25:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 19, 2013, 03:41:42 PM
Nice - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uUcjadx7sU

That is unbelievable.

So is this:

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70584000/jpg/_70584972_240ed771-3268-4c19-8ee7-bf199d89eed1.jpg)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: J70 on October 19, 2013, 05:32:52 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 19, 2013, 03:41:42 PM
Nice - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uUcjadx7sU

Wow!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 19, 2013, 08:22:40 PM
http://youtu.be/7BpdNvSgjUY
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 19, 2013, 11:41:22 PM
Wenger out.

Rolls-Royce stuff.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 20, 2013, 12:03:28 AM
Now the big tests start. Arsenal have been blessed with a nice opening schedule.

Within the next month they meet Dortmund x2, Liverpool and Utd. We'll know then.

Still v worried at the back. After Flamini went off they crumbled.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 20, 2013, 12:07:29 AM
Read an interview with Bergkamp in The Times today (he has an autobiography out/coming out). Went back to look at some of his highlights on youtube. What a player - sublime first touch.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 20, 2013, 12:11:11 AM
Ah he was deadly. Added a couple of years onto Wright's career and I believe made Henry.

That young lad at Utd has similar vision.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: gawa316 on October 20, 2013, 04:59:09 AM
If  Bara or Spain had scored that goal today you would've never heard the end of it.

Simply magnificant
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 20, 2013, 11:32:07 AM
Quote from: ONeill on October 20, 2013, 12:03:28 AM
Now the big tests start. Arsenal have been blessed with a nice opening schedule.

Within the next month they meet Dortmund x2, Liverpool and Utd. We'll know then.

Still v worried at the back. After Flamini went off they crumbled.

Sight exaggeration, they lost some of their shape for the 15 minutes either side of half-time but they still look organized and Arsenal now allow teams have the ball and hit them on the break, exemplified by Özil's goal after a lung-busting run. They are defending much better as a team this year.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 20, 2013, 12:25:15 PM
No exaggeration. I watched the whole game and from 25 mins in and up until the last 20 Norwich were the more dangerous side.

Arsenal didn't look organised at all - players were leaving the Norwich player with the ball to each other, especially in that hole in front of the German.

They were really crap for a long spell.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 20, 2013, 12:57:33 PM
And what chances did they create? Arsenal are allowing teams the ball more and hitting on the break, Norwich played well for sustained periods so why not give them credit rather than saying Arsenal crumbled. In fact if they really crumbled would not have drawn or even lost the game, they won the game 4-1 so yes you are exaggerating.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 20, 2013, 01:09:43 PM
That's an opinion, Dinny - people don't need to force theirs on others. In my opinion, from the way they played in the opening 15 mins and against a side in the relegation positions, they crumbled - badly. That was NOT a 4-1 game for anyone who watched it.

They weren't allowing Norwich possession - Arsenal were being dispossessed. Ozil, Cazorla and Wilshere couldn't hold the ball. Twice Norwich were 5 on 4 but due to the lack of quality they fcuked up. Their goal was coming as was another until that fine breakaway. Arsenal were not even contesting headers around the middle but it wasn't because they had men in place behind the ball - our midfield just stopped for 45 mins.

Arsenal have a lot of quality and that they can score at any time but have conceded more than any side in the top 5 against crap opposition. They'd conceded 6 after 9 games last season. This year it's 9 from 8 games.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 20, 2013, 01:34:14 PM
Course it's about opinions, we are allowed disagree you know. Arsenal have changed their set-up this season and are quite willing to allow teams possession and no other team has conceded as many shots on goal as Arsenal. The key though is the vast majority of these shots like yesterday are from a distance. So even before Flamini took a knock to his head Norwich were imposing their game on Arsenal but I never thought they were that threatening, their goal came from a poor clearance but was still an excellent finish. Flamini has a lot of game time and his role is clearly defined in the team, that type of clarity doesn't exist for the team when he had to be replaced because how many minutes have Wilshere, Ramsey and Arteta played together but as the game progressed Arteta and Wilshere became more disciplined. So you say Arsenal crumbled, I disagree Arsenal played the way they have all season allowing the opposition possession but their defensive shaped looked off due to lack of understanding in the midfield three.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 20, 2013, 01:39:01 PM
But I don't necessarily think they're defensively better. One clean sheet in the league so far. I'm still worried about that.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on October 20, 2013, 02:02:44 PM
I thought you guys would be cracking open champagne bottles by now.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on October 20, 2013, 02:11:20 PM
If you think the Arsenal defence is dodgy you want to watch what I'm looking at now.
>:(
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 20, 2013, 02:25:36 PM
Eh.....Jamie Oliver in the buff?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on October 20, 2013, 02:28:38 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 20, 2013, 02:25:36 PM
Eh.....Jamie Oliver in the buff?

Might as well be 11 of 'em!!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: maddog on October 20, 2013, 04:25:22 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on October 20, 2013, 02:28:38 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 20, 2013, 02:25:36 PM
Eh.....Jamie Oliver in the buff?

Might as well be 11 of 'em!!

Bad day for the peaky blinders. Ah well hopefully you will cheer up within an hour or so. SOTV
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on October 20, 2013, 04:48:01 PM
Cheers "Our Kid".
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 22, 2013, 09:40:02 PM
Arsenal weren't too far away. Still too brittle defensively against the best sides.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 22, 2013, 09:51:26 PM
Napoli,Dortmund to face away that could be a real damaging defeat for Arsenal tonight.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 22, 2013, 10:17:04 PM
I'm not overly worried about the CL this year but wouldn't surprise me to see Arsenal pick up 4 away from home.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 23, 2013, 09:33:24 AM
Quote from: ONeill on October 22, 2013, 10:17:04 PM
I'm not overly worried about the CL this year but wouldn't surprise me to see Arsenal pick up 4 away from home.

Aye - suckered punched but tremendous away record so no panic yet.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 24, 2013, 12:33:08 PM
Very interesting article on Wenger and spending (transfers/wages) and how it reflects in the EPL.

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2013/10/24/arsene-wenger-what-is-he-good-for-251001/ (http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2013/10/24/arsene-wenger-what-is-he-good-for-251001/)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on October 25, 2013, 10:36:26 AM
Quote of the week:

Wenger: "I will read Ferguson's book, at the moment I am a bit busy"
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on October 25, 2013, 10:39:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 24, 2013, 12:33:08 PM
Very interesting article on Wenger and spending (transfers/wages) and how it reflects in the EPL.

http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2013/10/24/arsene-wenger-what-is-he-good-for-251001/ (http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2013/10/24/arsene-wenger-what-is-he-good-for-251001/)
It's interesting compilation. I suspect the Arsenal Trust just wanted mud to throw at Wenger.
Though SI failed to emphatically answer the question it was asked to answer, it concludes with a wooly,
'Until now, Wenger has also been good for equality in the dressing room. I'm sure he still is.
It's been one of the many reasons Arsenal should be thankful for him. Debatably'

Why shove in the last word 'debatably'? - a typical academic approach when pressed for an answer to a direct question.
Its a small gripe with the SI study, because any one with a bit of sporting intelligence can see by reading the study, that he was worth it :)

Here's an interesting graph from FFP, scaled wages to points, I think Everton got the best return. 1m per point. But Spurs came closest to getting a best return for their wages paid.
(http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/resources/Scaled%202012%20to%202013.jpg.opt558x904o0%2C0s558x904.jpg)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 25, 2013, 11:41:39 PM
I think the word debatably is pertinent. What if he never wins another trophy again - it's in the eye of the beholder then.

If you're employed on an wonderful wage for a top 4 club - what should be your brief?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on October 26, 2013, 12:44:17 PM
Arsenal starting XI

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWeY3RnIQAAsBrx.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 26, 2013, 11:13:56 PM
The season starts now. I think Arsenal will lose the next 10 games.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on October 27, 2013, 12:19:36 AM
Next 10 games:

(H) Liverpool 2 Nov
(A) Man Utd 10 Nov
(H) Southampton 23 Nov
(A) Cardiff 30 Nov
(H) Hull City 4 Dec
(H) Everton 8 Dec
(A) Man City 14 Dec
(H) Chelsea 23 Dec
(A) West Ham Utd 26 Dec
(A) Newcastle 29 Dec

That is a tough 10 game run.

If the next two are productive (3/4 points) I would hope the following three will also be productive. Then the Everton/City/Chelsea trio will be massive followed by a tricky two away matches. Keeping key players fit is vital.

Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 27, 2013, 09:59:50 AM
Heading over to the Southampton game so hopefully the Goons will still be top. Arsenal just need to box clever, draws against the top teams will keep them at arms length and just keep picking up the Ws against lesser sides. So would take draws against Liverpool, Everton, City and Chelsea and would expect wins in the rest - even allowing for a blip - 20 points from 30 would leave Arsenal on 42 heading in to the NY, whisper it but that is title challenging material.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2013, 09:18:05 AM
What do ye think about tonight? Too many big games to be risking anyone really.

Tonight you should see the real difference in spending power. Chelsea's weakened side are probably all capped at international level.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on October 29, 2013, 08:29:32 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 25, 2013, 11:41:39 PM
I think the word debatably is pertinent. What if he never wins another trophy again - it's in the eye of the beholder then.
The future effects of Wenger era is 'debatable' because nothing is known right now.
SI used the word debatable in the final summary of the past events. They give an answer to the question and then say 'debatably'.
But possibly it was just an 'add on', humorously put in,  as if to say  - we have given our opinion but in football everything is up for debate.
QuoteIf you're employed on an wonderful wage for a top 4 club - what should be your brief?
The wages a manager earns is only one economic factor. The SI study dealt with the effects of the manager on the team, in the wider context of the club.  By definition, the study is asked to value the managerial nous of Wenger in the context of the club (finance etc). On that question, it's not that relevant what salary Wenger's being paid.


Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2013, 09:25:26 PM
The wage was irrelevant in my question. As manager of a top 4 club, what should be your brief?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: laoislad on October 29, 2013, 09:34:59 PM
http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2013, 09:41:53 PM
Well, that was a bit crap. No positives at all from the fringe players. Chelsea showed yet again that if you squeeze as many players into their defensive third and hit Arsenal on the break with quality players, you'll win.

If Brendan Rodgers has any brain at all he'll do the same because he has the players to hurt Arsenal on the counter.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 29, 2013, 11:08:57 PM
Didn't see game so can't comment.

Think your over estimating Liverpool as well, they're not defensively structured as a Mourhino team nor defensively disciplined as Dortmond. Can only see Chelsea and Southampton causing Arsenal those types of problems in the EPL. Would take 3 draws next 3 games.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2013, 11:42:43 PM
I hope you're right.

Bendtner was atrocious. Kyo offered nothing. Jenkinson second rate. It was just 2005-2013 all over again when meeting a decent side with world class-ish finishers and midfielders. Chelsea/Mourinho were very comfortable letting Arsenal tippy-tap.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2013, 07:19:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on October 29, 2013, 11:42:43 PM
I hope you're right.

Bendtner was atrocious. Kyo offered nothing. Jenkinson second rate. It was just 2005-2013 all over again when meeting a decent side with world class-ish finishers and midfielders. Chelsea/Mourinho were very comfortable letting Arsenal tippy-tap.

That Chelsea team cost 250m and had 690 International caps,. You alluded to the chasm earlier yet still expect Arsenal to compete even though their attack was led by a guy they've been trying to get rid off for 3 years whereas Chelsea were led by Eto and Mata. Chelsea then brought on Ba Arsenal Park!

Maybe I'm like the battered wife whose husband brings her home flowers and she thinks he can change but I think this year can be different.......
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 30, 2013, 06:46:11 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2013, 07:19:33 AM
Quote from: ONeill on October 29, 2013, 11:42:43 PM
I hope you're right.

Bendtner was atrocious. Kyo offered nothing. Jenkinson second rate. It was just 2005-2013 all over again when meeting a decent side with world class-ish finishers and midfielders. Chelsea/Mourinho were very comfortable letting Arsenal tippy-tap.

That Chelsea team cost 250m and had 690 International caps,. You alluded to the chasm earlier yet still expect Arsenal to compete even though their attack was led by a guy they've been trying to get rid off for 3 years whereas Chelsea were led by Eto and Mata. Chelsea then brought on Ba Arsenal Park!

Maybe I'm like the battered wife whose husband brings her home flowers and she thinks he can change but I think this year can be different.......

You do know whoyou sound like..... :P
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 02, 2013, 07:49:55 PM
Pretty comfortable.

2 Draws next 2 games will be good but Arsenal are better away from home so you never know.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on November 02, 2013, 08:38:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 02, 2013, 07:49:55 PM
Pretty comfortable.

2 Draws next 2 games will be good but Arsenal are better away from home so you never know.

Yea but they are not getting good results against teams above them in the League lately.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2013, 02:25:02 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on November 02, 2013, 07:49:55 PM
Pretty comfortable.

2 Draws next 2 games will be good but Arsenal are better away from home so you never know.

Indeed. Liverpool were fairly mediocre outside of Suarez. I see Dortmund won 6-1 on Friday. These next two games are the litmus test as in whether Le Arse are a better side than last year.

No word on the injury boys?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 06, 2013, 06:59:13 PM
Szczesny,
Sagna, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Gibbs,
Arteta, Ramsey,
Rosicky, Ozil, Cazorla,
Giroud

Weidenfeller,
Grosskreutz, Subotic, Papastathopoulos, Schmelzer;
Bender, Sahin;
Blaszczykowski, Mkhitaryan, Reus;
Lewandowski.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: trileacman on November 06, 2013, 07:33:24 PM
Very strong midfield but that back 5 aren't really up to it. Giroud may prove to be a star but that rearguard is distinctly average.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on November 06, 2013, 09:25:29 PM
(http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/creatista/creatista1108/creatista110800123/11799285-surprised-young-caucasian-man-with-raised-eyebrows-and-open-mouth.jpg)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 06, 2013, 09:49:27 PM
Quote from: trileacman on November 06, 2013, 07:33:24 PM
Very strong midfield but that back 5 aren't really up to it. Giroud may prove to be a star but that rearguard is distinctly average.

With the second best defensive record last season and a good start this season they are doing ok I think!!

This media obsession about Arsenals defense is complete pap.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 06, 2013, 09:50:29 PM
Brilliant performances from Mertesecker and Giroud. Ramsey et al will get the plaudits but those two at either end were the crucial battering rams tonight. Giroud must be hateful to mark - never shirks his duties and as strong as an ox.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on November 06, 2013, 11:13:32 PM
Superbly set up by Wenger, outwitting the other anorak freak. Arsenal took complete control of the game after scoring that goal and had Dortmund playing the game they don't like playing - breaking the other team down and just ended up lumping balls into the box.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 07, 2013, 12:13:58 AM
I don't think they were set up particularly different from any other game recently. The difference this time was that they were forced to show more defensive qualities as the game progressed because of how good Dortmund were when Arsenal had the ball or tried to play their passing game. Ozil was dispossessed umpteen times as Giroud was being hounded when he got any service. The meant that was ball was being overturned and Ramsey, Rosicky and Cazorla were stopped in their tracks before they could really push up. Dortmund's hounding was first class but ran out of steam.

The CBs had their best game as a partnership and I was surprised to see Dortmund play to Mertesecker's strengths with the repeated crossing from early on although they nearly scored three times in the first half. Arsenal rode their luck especially with the 1-on-1 miss but sometimes it falls for you. I thought the sides were well matched over the two legs.

Hard to see how Theo will start. Rosicky has worked his arse off recently. Cazorla, Ozil and Ramsey are undroppable if fit. Even Wilshere will struggle to find a start in a full strength side. Flamini will come in for Rosicky probably.

Giroud is the unsung hero and you just hope he remains healthy.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: belleaqua on November 07, 2013, 12:56:56 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 07, 2013, 12:13:58 AM
I don't think they were set up particularly different from any other game recently. The difference this time was that they were forced to show more defensive qualities as the game progressed because of how good Dortmund were when Arsenal had the ball or tried to play their passing game. Ozil was dispossessed umpteen times as Giroud was being hounded when he got any service. The meant that was ball was being overturned and Ramsey, Rosicky and Cazorla were stopped in their tracks before they could really push up. Dortmund's hounding was first class but ran out of steam.

The CBs had their best game as a partnership and I was surprised to see Dortmund play to Mertesecker's strengths with the repeated crossing from early on although they nearly scored three times in the first half. Arsenal rode their luck especially with the 1-on-1 miss but sometimes it falls for you. I thought the sides were well matched over the two legs.

Hard to see how Theo will start. Rosicky has worked his arse off recently. Cazorla, Ozil and Ramsey are undroppable if fit. Even Wilshere will struggle to find a start in a full strength side. Flamini will come in for Rosicky probably.

Giroud is the unsung hero and you just hope he remains healthy.

Jeez I don't know about that. He offers a constant threat and some balance to this side. While things have been going great I think a Mourinho or maybe even Moyes on Sunday knows how to shut this team down. Teams will pack the middle and hit us on the counter. Walcott prevents that. I am actually fearful we will miss him badly on Sunday despite his frustrations.

I also think Ozil will make a hero out of him with through balls, etc.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on November 07, 2013, 09:05:33 AM
Fascinating game last night - two strong teams that play to their own strengths and both mugged at home.  The group is going to the the wire, with Dortmund in trouble now, though I could see them beating Napoli. 
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 07, 2013, 10:44:11 AM
QuoteI think a Mourinho or maybe even Moyes on Sunday knows how to shut this team down. Teams will pack the middle and hit us on the counter

That the same David Moyes who had only 3 wins against Arsenal in 13 years with Everton? Moyes is no tactical genius, gets teams organised but seems to have little flexibility in his approach. Also think people are looking too much into that COC defeat.

Man United will have to attack Arsenal and Arsenal are much better now when they don't have the ball compared to previous years, Arsenal will be comfortable with Man United's long ball and they lack creativity in midfield. If Arsenal minimize the defensive error count they have a good chance of winning this and would be quite confident of the draw at least.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on November 07, 2013, 12:14:12 PM
I would think that Arsenal will be expecting to take three points at Old Trafford - I will be surprised if they don't. 
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: EC Unique on November 07, 2013, 01:16:01 PM
Quote from: Billys Boots on November 07, 2013, 12:14:12 PM
I would think that Arsenal will be expecting to take three points at Old Trafford - I will be surprised if they don't.

Considering the teams that have got points of Utd this year I would be surprised if Arsenal will want anything but a win. Utd have put a string of fair to reasonable results together of late but this will show where they are really at. As a Utd fan I would be happy with a draw and delighted with a win. Utd will have to dig in physically and grind out a result. If Utd try to play nice football Arsenal will get 3 points.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ballinaman on November 07, 2013, 02:42:53 PM
Dortmund fans reaction to Arsenal goal last night.....priceless.  ;D The guy with the flag is my favourite

(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/775095792.gif)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on November 07, 2013, 05:31:08 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on November 07, 2013, 02:42:53 PM
Dortmund fans reaction to Arsenal goal last night.....priceless.  ;D The guy with the flag is my favourite

(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/775095792.gif)

Brilliant, the guy at the front on the left looks like my 5 year old when he does something he shouldn't.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 10, 2013, 11:49:00 PM
Middlin
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 11, 2013, 12:47:19 AM
It was like watching Arsenal get beat by Everton. That United team are poor but 3rd big game in week, flu ridden squad and a team that fought like the their lives depended on it. Draw would have been a better reflection of the game. Still the wins over Dortmond and Liverpool were far more important. Forgot to add fluke goal as well, hit his shoulder then his head. Only Walter White could be as lucky.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Lecale2 on November 11, 2013, 01:23:26 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1461749_10151984186069914_1496670326_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2013, 06:52:42 PM
Played alright I suppose. On the downside Theo's back.

Giroud a horse of a player.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 23, 2013, 11:39:12 PM
The way Boruc fckd about with the ball you would swear he had money on the match ;)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: belleaqua on November 23, 2013, 11:46:49 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 23, 2013, 06:52:42 PM
Played alright I suppose. On the downside Theo's back.

Giroud a horse of a player.

Are we supporting the same team??

Probably the most critical player to the potential success of Arsenal this year.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: tyroneman on November 24, 2013, 12:00:30 AM
Quote from: belleaqua on November 23, 2013, 11:46:49 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 23, 2013, 06:52:42 PM
Played alright I suppose. On the downside Theo's back.

Giroud a horse of a player.

Are we supporting the same team??

Probably the most critical player to the potential success of Arsenal this year.

Top of the league without him. Not sure how Arsenals success hinges on his return. Gives options alright but ............
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 25, 2013, 10:33:46 AM
(http://ak.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/2030089/preview/stock-footage-happy-young-man-relaxing-on-sunbed-on-the-beach.jpg)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 25, 2013, 12:11:47 PM
Give Bendtner the nod over Giroud for Marseille. Tell him he's Lineker.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 25, 2013, 12:24:05 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 25, 2013, 12:11:47 PM
Give Bendtner the nod over Giroud for Marseille. Tell him he's Lineker.

(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/2R1QABw5v_w/maxresdefault.jpg)

This image comes to mind..
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 26, 2013, 07:24:39 PM
Have went for Giroud to score first 3-0 18/1 just for a interest. Should beat this team handy in fairness, the French teams aren't great away from home
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 26, 2013, 10:19:11 PM
Very easy. Much easier than it would be against every other side in the domestic league.

Theo still a bollocks.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: sensethetone on November 29, 2013, 09:01:38 AM
need to make sure they get the points at cardiff with chelsea and city  matches coming soon.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 30, 2013, 04:58:12 PM
Decent I suppose. Midfield lost a lot of battles. Giroud looked knackered.

Theo cocked up at the end. w**ker.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 30, 2013, 06:50:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 30, 2013, 04:58:12 PM
Decent I suppose. Midfield lost a lot of battles. Giroud looked knackered.

Theo cocked up at the end. w**ker.

Give in O'Neill, you know you want to.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: belleaqua on November 30, 2013, 08:08:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 30, 2013, 04:58:12 PM
Decent I suppose. Midfield lost a lot of battles. Giroud looked knackered.

Theo cocked up at the end. w**ker.

Brilliant cameo from Walcott - shows what he can bring to this team.

That midfield that lost a lot of battles provided 3 goals and 3 assists.

Not bad.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on November 30, 2013, 08:10:14 PM
Arsenal's average points per match by month in the Premier League:

January – 1.78
February – 1.94
March – 2.1
April – 1.93
May – 1.79
August – 1.88
September – 2.02
October – 2.08
November – 1.55
December – 1.8


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2483399/Arsenals-worst-month-Premier-League-N

Nov 2013 - 2.25

Also: 1 goal conceded in the 4, including 3 away games.

Wenger out.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 01, 2013, 12:01:55 PM
Hull midweek. Black December I think.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on December 01, 2013, 12:19:39 PM
21 May 2005

http://balls.ie/football/17-things-that-have-happened-since-arsenal-won-a-trophy/ (http://balls.ie/football/17-things-that-have-happened-since-arsenal-won-a-trophy/)

;D
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 01, 2013, 12:27:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 01, 2013, 12:19:39 PM
21 May 2005

http://balls.ie/football/17-things-that-have-happened-since-arsenal-won-a-trophy/ (http://balls.ie/football/17-things-that-have-happened-since-arsenal-won-a-trophy/)

;D

You forgot to mention you not getting the ride!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on December 01, 2013, 03:06:53 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on December 01, 2013, 12:27:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 01, 2013, 12:19:39 PM
21 May 2005

http://balls.ie/football/17-things-that-have-happened-since-arsenal-won-a-trophy/ (http://balls.ie/football/17-things-that-have-happened-since-arsenal-won-a-trophy/)

:D

You forgot to mention you not getting the ride!

Meeeoooow! :DD
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on December 01, 2013, 04:18:06 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 01, 2013, 12:19:39 PM
21 May 2005

http://balls.ie/football/17-things-that-have-happened-since-arsenal-won-a-trophy/ (http://balls.ie/football/17-things-that-have-happened-since-arsenal-won-a-trophy/)

;D

This also happened: Hull 3 - 1 Liverpool (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25074365)  ;)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 01, 2013, 06:19:57 PM
Omens bad. Hull stuck 3 past Liverpool. Arsenal just the two.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 01, 2013, 06:34:29 PM
I think its only a matter of time before Manchester City,Chelsea overtake Arsenal. Will the gunners supporters be happy enough with third place finish?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on December 01, 2013, 07:25:43 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 01, 2013, 04:18:06 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 01, 2013, 12:19:39 PM
21 May 2005

http://balls.ie/football/17-things-that-have-happened-since-arsenal-won-a-trophy/ (http://balls.ie/football/17-things-that-have-happened-since-arsenal-won-a-trophy/)

;D

This also happened: Hull 3 - 1 Liverpool (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25074365)  ;)

What goes around comes around!  ;D
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 02, 2013, 09:57:00 PM
Arsenal agreed to sign Alvaro Morata in Jan on loan, decent business , he was class in the u21 European Championships last summer. Won the Golden boot http://t.co/Fbo4dO08EL
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 04, 2013, 08:40:46 PM
Same old Arsenal. Go one up then sit on it. What usually happens is they score 2-3 late on through sheer class. Hopefully.

Good to see Bender ahead of Theo.

Walcott the balax.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 04, 2013, 09:39:20 PM
Fair enough I spose.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 04, 2013, 10:50:21 PM
(http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/chillin_319ab7_1997653.jpg)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 07, 2013, 06:46:52 PM
(http://waltercomms.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/thinker.jpg)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 08, 2013, 04:48:57 PM
Everton the better team in the half. Its a while since Arsenal had so little possession of the ball.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: J70 on December 08, 2013, 05:51:37 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 08, 2013, 04:48:57 PM
Everton the better team in the half. Its a while since Arsenal had so little possession of the ball.

I've only seen Barkley in the last couple of weeks. Looks a serious player. Reminds me of Gazza in his youth with his speed and balance and ability to play a nice through-ball on the run.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 08, 2013, 05:56:20 PM
Arsenal could have won it could have lost it. Great equaliser from Everton. Lead stretched to 5 points.

Walcott did well with his air assist. Played well when he came on  ;)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on December 08, 2013, 06:11:15 PM
It doesn't feel like a stretch, Dinny :)
Better chances fell to Arsenal though, that last one was freaky.

Lead "shrunk" to 5  (from a 7) with a couple of tough games coming up.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: The Worker on December 08, 2013, 06:17:27 PM
Good game, fair result in the end.

Martinez proving again his managerial quality.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on December 08, 2013, 06:26:50 PM
Martinez doesn't really have to prove himself, he's already done that.
He had a very crafty win against Arsenal at the end of 2011/12 season,  made Arsenal sweat a bit for their annual complimentary CL spot.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: The Worker on December 08, 2013, 06:47:23 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 08, 2013, 06:26:50 PM
Martinez doesn't really have to prove himself, he's already done that.
He had a very crafty win against Arsenal at the end of 2011/12 season,  made Arsenal sweat a bit for their annual complimentary CL spot.

He is showing this year that he is capable of managing a team at the top end of the league, there were some question marks over this previously.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on December 08, 2013, 07:01:49 PM
Sure, to some extent, because he hasn't been with a team in this part of the table before.
I thought he had proved himself with Wigan and already more than proved himself with Everton.

The next step for him is Man U ;D  he's already too good for Everton.

Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: The Worker on December 08, 2013, 07:12:11 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 08, 2013, 07:01:49 PM
Sure, to some extent, because he hasn't been with a team in this part of the table before.
I thought he had proved himself with Wigan and already more than proved himself with Everton.

The next step for him is Man U ;D  he's already too good for Everton.

He had already proved himself to some extent, which is why I stated that he is proving AGAIN his managerial qualities. The last week has only enhanced his reputation.

Some would say he is already too good for utd  :P
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 08, 2013, 07:27:45 PM
Martinez was the manager that got Wigan relegated and the FA cup win shouldn't mask over that. He said no to Liverpool and later chose Everton if hes as good as some think then maybe Martinez can prove a point by finishing ahead of his neighbours this season.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 08, 2013, 07:29:42 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 08, 2013, 07:27:45 PM
Martinez was the manager that got Wigan relegated and the FA cup win shouldn't mask over that. He said no to Liverpool and later chose Everton if hes as good as some think then maybe Martinez can prove a point by finishing ahead of his neighbours this season.

Did he?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 08, 2013, 07:39:07 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 08, 2013, 07:29:42 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 08, 2013, 07:27:45 PM
Martinez was the manager that got Wigan relegated and the FA cup win shouldn't mask over that. He said no to Liverpool and later chose Everton if hes as good as some think then maybe Martinez can prove a point by finishing ahead of his neighbours this season.

Did he?
http://www.kopsource.com/everton-boss-martinez-has-no-regrets-after-rejecting-liverpool-advances/
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 08, 2013, 07:44:20 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 08, 2013, 06:11:15 PM
It doesn't feel like a stretch, Dinny :)
Better chances fell to Arsenal though, that last one was freaky.

Lead "shrunk" to 5  (from a 7) with a couple of tough games coming up.

It was 4 before this weekend, 5 after! When was it ever 7?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 08, 2013, 07:46:10 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 08, 2013, 07:39:07 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 08, 2013, 07:29:42 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 08, 2013, 07:27:45 PM
Martinez was the manager that got Wigan relegated and the FA cup win shouldn't mask over that. He said no to Liverpool and later chose Everton if hes as good as some think then maybe Martinez can prove a point by finishing ahead of his neighbours this season.

Did he?
http://www.kopsource.com/everton-boss-martinez-has-no-regrets-after-rejecting-liverpool-advances/

Depends on who you want to believe I suppose.
How does one turn down a job they were never offered?

However, Martinez's claims are contrary to those of Liverpool co-owner Tom Werner.

The American, talking to the BBC last week, claimed that while a number of people were spoken to about the position vacated by Dalglish, Rodgers was the only one to receive an offer.

Werner said: 'We engaged with a number of very experienced football people whose names have never been mentioned. We ended up focussing only on Brendan Rodgers. We never made an offer to any other manager.


Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on December 08, 2013, 07:48:38 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 08, 2013, 07:27:45 PM
Martinez was the manager that got Wigan relegated and the FA cup win shouldn't mask over that.[/b] He said no to Liverpool and later chose Everton if hes as good as some think then maybe Martinez can prove a point by finishing ahead of his neighbours this season.

Au contraitre, winning the FA Cup should mask some what over Relegation! Have you looked at the Roll of Honour since 1988?  Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool and Spurs have been champions. Bar 2008 when Portsmouth had to go Bankrupt to win the thing, it is near impossible for anyone outside of these six to win it.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 08, 2013, 09:00:03 PM
Lead will be wiped out by the New Year. Luckily City and Chelsea didn't win - the 2 sides you fear and who will beat Arsenal in the next fortnight.

Since Theo came back the side has been nervous. Some hoor.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on December 08, 2013, 11:30:56 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 08, 2013, 07:44:20 PM
Quote from: Main Street on December 08, 2013, 06:11:15 PM
It doesn't feel like a stretch, Dinny :)
Better chances fell to Arsenal though, that last one was freaky.

Lead "shrunk" to 5  (from a 7) with a couple of tough games coming up.

It was 4 before this weekend, 5 after! When was it ever 7?
It was 7 before the game as Arsenal were expected to beat a team like Everton at home.
It was 7 before  Everton equalised in a game they should not have been let equalise.
You are a hard ass with a stiff poker up there :)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 10, 2013, 11:58:15 PM
Massive 10 days or so.

Tits up or game on?

Away to City on Sat morning looking daunting.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on December 11, 2013, 02:31:02 PM
I miss the Fergie v Arsene  flare-up potential, I suppose it had died down a bit when Arsenal dropped out of serious contention. But now that Arsenal are sorta up there, 'I would love it' if Fergie was there on the sidelines getting wound up by Arsene, his facial blood veins popping one by one.
When you think of personalities that you would like beside you in the trenches, Wenger's doesn't exactly jump out, but when it came to Fergie and Utd, Wenger was just about the only man who would go toe to toe against the red nosed bully, on your behalf in enemy territory.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 11, 2013, 09:21:28 PM
FCUK.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: GAA_Talk on December 11, 2013, 09:49:12 PM
Madrid, PSG, Munich, Athletico or Barcelona.

Tasty.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 11, 2013, 09:57:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 08, 2013, 07:48:38 PM
Au contraitre, winning the FA Cup should mask some what over Relegation! Have you looked at the Roll of Honour since 1988?  Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool and Spurs have been champions. Bar 2008 when Portsmouth had to go Bankrupt to win the thing, it is near impossible for anyone outside of these six to win it.

Wigans FA cup win was against the odds like Wimbledons in 1988 however the crazy gang didn't get themselves relegated that season they finished seventh.

Quote from: ONeill on December 11, 2013, 09:21:28 PM
FCUK.

In fairness that was some group three teams on twelve points,  Zenit have reached the knock out stages on six points.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 11, 2013, 10:06:17 PM
If Arsenal can get a point at City on Sat morning it'll be their result of the year.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on December 11, 2013, 10:46:16 PM
I thought both yellows for Arteta were on the soft side, theatrically enhanced.
but probably had little bearing on the result.
Szczezny fairly dealt Tony O'D a firm backhander in the post match interview.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 11, 2013, 10:48:12 PM
Not sure how this result will affect Arsenal mentally prior to the City game. Need a much better performance if they are to get anything at the Etihad!!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 12, 2013, 08:35:07 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 11, 2013, 10:06:17 PM
If Arsenal can get a point at City on Sat morning it'll be their result of the year.

Agree but have 5 point lead for a safety net and 9 days rest to the Chelsea game. That Chelsea game is the pivotal game.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 13, 2013, 11:48:07 AM
Yep.

Don't want a 4-0er tomorrow though. But as you say, the five point cushion is a good blow-absorber.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on December 13, 2013, 11:29:08 PM
Dinny are you gutted?

http://www.independent.ie/sport/arsenal-stars-podolski-cazorla-and-ozil-show-their-support-for-munster-29835938.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/arsenal-stars-podolski-cazorla-and-ozil-show-their-support-for-munster-29835938.html)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 13, 2013, 11:46:19 PM
Feckin Jerry Flannery polluting those boys heads...
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on December 14, 2013, 01:17:13 PM
Oneill won't be happy with Walcott for that first goal. Didn't bother his arse running with michelis.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 14, 2013, 01:19:26 PM
Any links to the game lads?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 14, 2013, 02:41:30 PM
(http://realonomics.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/reality-pill.jpg)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 14, 2013, 02:47:40 PM
Although he must be doing a Dinny and putting his eggs into the Chelsea basket. Odd substitutions.

Walcott is ruining that side.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 14, 2013, 03:37:38 PM
Give over about Walcott ye tube
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on December 14, 2013, 04:29:13 PM
Arsenal thought a bit of a lesson. But it's a long season. Two points dropped (as most expected 1 at best). No disaster, unless they let it affect them from here on!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: The Worker on December 14, 2013, 04:35:09 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 14, 2013, 04:29:13 PM
Arsenal thought a bit of a lesson. But it's a long season. Two points dropped (as most expected 1 at best). No disaster, unless they let it affect them from here on!

If most expected 1 point and they got 0 points then how is it 2 points dropped?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 14, 2013, 05:02:19 PM
I don't think Arsenal have a squad strong enough to win the league and unless Mourinho can find something special Manchester City could wrap up this title by April.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on December 14, 2013, 05:05:48 PM
A defence that gets hit for 6 is going to struggle to win a title.

Having said that anyone is going to find the Etihad difficult. If City's away form doesn't improve they won't win it. I think Chelsea will win but if Arse avoid defeat against them or win, who knows.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 14, 2013, 05:27:10 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 14, 2013, 05:05:48 PM
A defence that gets hit for 6 is going to struggle to win a title.

Having said that anyone is going to find the Etihad difficult. If City's away form doesn't improve they won't win it. I think Chelsea will win but if Arse avoid defeat against them or win, who knows.

I didn't see all the game but any team that concedes 3 at home though is vulnerable if you can close up the back.  Pantaloons and Harte don't convey any sense of confidence into anyone and if Kompany isn't there then they can be breached. 
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 14, 2013, 05:56:36 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 14, 2013, 05:27:10 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 14, 2013, 05:05:48 PM
A defence that gets hit for 6 is going to struggle to win a title.

Having said that anyone is going to find the Etihad difficult. If City's away form doesn't improve they won't win it. I think Chelsea will win but if Arse avoid defeat against them or win, who knows.

I didn't see all the game but any team that concedes 3 at home though is vulnerable if you can close up the back.  Pantaloons and Harte don't convey any sense of confidence into anyone and if Kompany isn't there then they can be breached.

Gaelic has always been his first love anyways.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 15, 2013, 01:23:16 PM
Yesterday was the perfect shit storm, fatigue, awful decisions and a team unstoppable at home.

Title race is still wide open but not beating one of City and Man U and Chelsea does make you question their mental state especially if they feel to beat a below par Chelsea next Monday.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on December 15, 2013, 01:39:57 PM
I thought Arsenal were supposed to be finished after  their opening day  by 3  goals to  Villa?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 15, 2013, 05:53:44 PM
Good old Spuds just when you expect the Arsenal in crisis blogs Spurs go and do that.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 16, 2013, 12:28:03 PM
Feb 8 Liverpool A
Feb 13 Man United H
Feb 19 Bayern H
Mar 12 Bayern A
Mar 15 Totenham A
Mar 22 Chelsea A
Mar 29 ManCity H
Apr 5 Everton A
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 16, 2013, 12:32:57 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 16, 2013, 12:28:03 PM
Feb 8 Liverpool A
Feb 13 Man United H
Feb 19 Bayern H
Mar 12 Bayern A
Mar 15 Totenham A
Mar 22 Chelsea A
Mar 29 ManCity H
Apr 5 Everton A

Season defining period there.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 16, 2013, 10:04:37 PM
8 defeats.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 16, 2013, 10:47:09 PM
Being naturally superstitious I'd refrained from posting in the thread in the hope we would win the league. Since Shane just said 8 loses, I guess there's no need any more!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 17, 2013, 05:02:03 AM
What was going on with Ozil and Mertesacker (sp?!) at the end of the game?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: SLIGONIAN on December 17, 2013, 05:21:45 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on December 17, 2013, 05:02:03 AM
What was going on with Ozil and Mertesacker (sp?!) at the end of the game?
Apparently Ozil didnt go over and clap the away fans and Mertesacker was angry about that. Not sure why Ozil didnt want to acknowledge them, i think he came out and said he was embarrased to go over or something like that,

I though Ozil was very poor against city, i actually thought he hid, great player but needs to step up in the big ones.

I think Arsenal arent going to fall away either, the others will keep dropping points imo and Arsenal could of scored 6 themselves on sat, exciting season for a neutral.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on December 18, 2013, 06:25:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D807eXv94mg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D807eXv94mg)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 21, 2013, 05:13:39 PM
Do yiz remember the time Arsenal were top of the league?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 23, 2013, 10:57:32 AM
Big one tonight. 9 days rest. Wenger poor record v Mourinho.

Stand tall, Gooners.

4-3
(Walcott 1, 12, 23, 34)
(Torres 87, 88, 90)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 23, 2013, 12:38:18 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 23, 2013, 10:57:32 AM
Big one tonight. 9 days rest. Wenger poor record v Mourinho.

Stand tall, Gooners.

4-3
(Walcott 1, 12, 23, 34)
(Torres 87, 88, 90)

Very optimistic for you O'Neill. Sh*t or get off the pot time all the same.

Think it will be very tight, first goal for Arsenal and Chelsea can be opened up, first goal for Chelsea and it could be a frustrating night. Heart would love a 2-0 but head reckons 1-1.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 23, 2013, 08:50:28 PM
Arsenal have created nothing. Mourinho doing what he does best and parking the bus, knowing they've the quality to punish Arsenal on the break. Some poor passing by Ramsey tonight - looks like a Chelsea goal could come from a midfield mistake by him or Ozil. Can't see where an Arsenal goal is coming from. Get Theo off.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 23, 2013, 09:51:08 PM
A fair result the only winner was Liverpool. Wengers winless run against Mourinho continues.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 23, 2013, 09:54:18 PM
I can see Everton top by the end of Jan.

Badly need a real striker. Someone who loves getting the ball in the box. Jeffers?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: downtown on December 25, 2013, 03:04:24 PM
anyone know where i can get tickets to an arsenal game? preferably at home but if be away is ok
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 25, 2013, 04:22:05 PM
Home and away  games require red membership. This costs about 30 quid for year. You go online on the day tickets  go on sale and be prepared to wait a while for the box office to load up. Even then they may be sold out by the time you get through. If sold out you can then get them on ticket exchange where season ticket holders who can't make that particular game put them up for sale.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 26, 2013, 10:23:06 PM
Great to see Podolski back. Took his goal well.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on December 27, 2013, 12:49:53 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 26, 2013, 10:23:06 PM
Great to see Podolski back. Took his goal well.

Lads, do ye think Podolski is likely to start a few games after last night? I have him in a fantasy football draft and I'm thinking about signing him. Big money at stake here.  ;)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 27, 2013, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on December 27, 2013, 12:49:53 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 26, 2013, 10:23:06 PM
Great to see Podolski back. Took his goal well.

Lads, do ye think Podolski is likely to start a few games after last night? I have him in a fantasy football draft and I'm thinking about signing him. Big money at stake here.  ;)

Wenger has been bigging him up recently and he looked very hungry yest, he scored 16 goals last season and had double digit assists. With his directness he's always going to get on the end of chances especially with the handsome bastard up front. Looking at Arsenal's run of games I'd recommend buying him.

Newcastle game on Sunday will be interesting, considering their form a point would be a good result but always fancy Arsenal away especially with their midfield options.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on December 27, 2013, 12:11:30 PM
Cheers Dinny. Seeing as I'm bringing him in for Jermaine Defoe, it's safe to say he'll be an improvement. I think Arsenal should beat Newcastle. Newcastle have been on a great run but they've ridden their luck too. A freakish amount of refereeing decisions and deflections have been going their way recently.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2013, 02:41:16 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 27, 2013, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on December 27, 2013, 12:49:53 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 26, 2013, 10:23:06 PM
Great to see Podolski back. Took his goal well.

Lads, do ye think Podolski is likely to start a few games after last night? I have him in a fantasy football draft and I'm thinking about signing him. Big money at stake here.  ;)

Wenger has been bigging him up recently and he looked very hungry yest, he scored 16 goals last season and had double digit assists. With his directness he's always going to get on the end of chances especially with the handsome b**tard up front. Looking at Arsenal's run of games I'd recommend buying him.

Newcastle game on Sunday will be interesting, considering their form a point would be a good result but always fancy Arsenal away especially with their midfield options.

He's only 28 too. I thought he was older.

Can Arsenal win the league by beating 15 clubs home and away....and maybe pick up the odd point against City/Chelsea/Utd.....?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: tyroneman on December 27, 2013, 07:05:47 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 27, 2013, 02:41:16 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 27, 2013, 10:52:56 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on December 27, 2013, 12:49:53 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 26, 2013, 10:23:06 PM
Great to see Podolski back. Took his goal well.

Lads, do ye think Podolski is likely to start a few games after last night? I have him in a fantasy football draft and I'm thinking about signing him. Big money at stake here.  ;)

Wenger has been bigging him up recently and he looked very hungry yest, he scored 16 goals last season and had double digit assists. With his directness he's always going to get on the end of chances especially with the handsome b**tard up front. Looking at Arsenal's run of games I'd recommend buying him.

Newcastle game on Sunday will be interesting, considering their form a point would be a good result but always fancy Arsenal away especially with their midfield options.

He's only 28 too. I thought he was older.

Can Arsenal win the league by beating 15 clubs home and away....and maybe pick up the odd point against City/Chelsea/Utd.....???

Unless Arsenal start punching their weight against Citeh, Chelsea and Utd in the same season they won't win the EPL.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2013, 03:58:14 PM
Over the magic 40 points. PL football secured for next year hopefully.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 29, 2013, 05:17:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 29, 2013, 03:58:14 PM
Over the magic 40 points. PL football secured for next year hopefully.
Eighty points might be enough to win the league this season can Arsenal dare to dream?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 29, 2013, 06:14:35 PM
The reason a team might finish on 80 pts is because the teams around the top4 are all taking points from eaach other.Nothing to do with lesser quality this season, as its clearly better this season. Utd walked the league by 89pts, finished 11 ahead of city last year, and indeed utd took the foot of the gas in the final few of last year. So it could have been  more then 89tpts

. City are clearly better this season, lots of problems under mancini, plus they made good signings in the summer. Arsenal have wilshire back after missing all of last season, the emergence of ramsey as a key player, along with the signing of ozil plus flamemi, has made the squad stronger. Pudolski and walcott now back as well.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 29, 2013, 06:20:30 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 29, 2013, 06:14:35 PM
The reason a team might finish on 80 pts is because the teams around the top4 are all taking points from eaach other.Nothing to do with lesser quality this season, as its clearly better this season. Utd walked the league by 89pts, finished 11 ahead of city last year, and indeed utd took the foot of the gas in the final few of last year. So it could have been  more then 89tpts

. City are clearly better this season, lots of problems under mancini, plus they made good signings in the summer. Arsenal have wilshire back after missing all of last season, the emergence of ramsey as a key player, along with the signing of ozil plus flamemi, has made the squad stronger. Pudolski and walcott now back as well.

Do you think Manchester City are better now than when they won the title? i don't and its unlikely they will need eighty nine points to win the league this season.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 29, 2013, 06:31:46 PM
They have a better squad now then they had then so I would say they are.Tevez is the only significant player they lost since then, and he was awol for most of that seaaon, until the final few months when he came back and made the difference

Balotelli left too, not much of a loss, as he contributed feck all, only fighting with team mates
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 29, 2013, 07:08:27 PM
Debatable if their squad is better now, under Pellegrini Manchester City have lost against Sunderland,Cardiff,Aston Villa only drew with Southampton,Stoke the home form has them second.  The current Chelsea team aren't at the level of Mourinho Chelsea teams in 2004,05. The English media will hype up the quality of the Premier league however i believe the bar has been lowered this season and it gives a side like Arsenal a chance to win the league.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 29, 2013, 07:32:01 PM
The media hype up the bundesliga as the strongest in Europe, more debatable. Dortmund lie 12th pts  behind munich in 4th. Munich 7 clear of bayer with a game in hand
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 30, 2013, 10:57:33 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 29, 2013, 05:17:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 29, 2013, 03:58:14 PM
Over the magic 40 points. PL football secured for next year hopefully.
Eighty points might be enough to win the league this season can Arsenal dare to dream?

Not at all. It'll finish:

1. Manchester
2. Chelski
3. Le Arse
4. United
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 31, 2013, 01:16:00 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 30, 2013, 10:57:33 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 29, 2013, 05:17:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 29, 2013, 03:58:14 PM
Over the magic 40 points. PL football secured for next year hopefully.
Eighty points might be enough to win the league this season can Arsenal dare to dream?

Not at all. It'll finish:

1. Manchester
2. Chelski
3. Le Arse
4. United

Manchester Citys away form will have to improve if they wanted to finish ahead of Chelsea. Mourinho is the best manager in the league and Pellegrini has the best squad. I think you could be right about Arsenals third place finish.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: EC Unique on December 31, 2013, 02:28:43 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 30, 2013, 10:57:33 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 29, 2013, 05:17:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 29, 2013, 03:58:14 PM
Over the magic 40 points. PL football secured for next year hopefully.
Eighty points might be enough to win the league this season can Arsenal dare to dream?

Not at all. It'll finish:

1. Manchester
2. Chelski
3. Le Arse
4. United

This won't be far away with 3rd and 4th possibly swapping.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on December 31, 2013, 07:09:39 AM
Also first and second.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 31, 2013, 11:12:52 AM
Utd threw away an 8pt lead around march 2012. Fair play to City for winning on 89pts, goal difference the decider. City lost games at lower teams that season, and it was only really when tevez came back that they really clicked. Don't see how they are better then, then they are now.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 31, 2013, 07:29:16 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 31, 2013, 11:12:52 AM
Utd threw away an 8pt lead around march 2012. Fair play to City for winning on 89pts, goal difference the decider. City lost games at lower teams that season,and it was only really when tevez came back that they really clicked. Don't see how they are better then, then they are now.
Back then after nineteen games Manchester City had won more games, lost only two games,conceded less had a better goal difference and more points. City had thirty nine points this time last season two less than now and the only top eight side they have faced away so far this season was Chelsea.


Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 31, 2013, 07:37:00 PM
Most boring topic of the year unless you are a masochist you shouldn't be posting on this thread.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 31, 2013, 07:38:05 PM
Lost 3 this season, to 2 then at this stage. Perhaps the form of Joe Harte back then was a lot more consistent then,made very few errors that season, lost his place for a while this season., he is now back in nets and is doing alright.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 01, 2014, 07:56:57 PM
Best defence in the EPL I see and half of those goals conceded came in two games so only conceded 9 goals in the other 18 games. Defence wins championships <clings on tightly>
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 01, 2014, 09:37:25 PM
Bendtner and Walcott. Better than Iniesta and Messi.

That was tough.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on January 04, 2014, 06:12:25 PM
The body language between Keane and Ian Wright. Hilarious.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on January 04, 2014, 08:32:32 PM
Quote from: ziggy90 on January 04, 2014, 06:12:25 PM
The body language between Keane and Ian Wright. Hilarious.
Walcott baiting the spurs fans while on the stretcher was hilarious.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 04, 2014, 10:36:47 PM
He should've scored.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Gaffer on January 05, 2014, 05:18:58 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 04, 2014, 10:36:47 PM
He should've scored.

  No harm to you but  your anti Walcott thing is getting tedious, O'Neill .
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2014, 07:02:43 PM
I know. I've blocked myself.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on January 05, 2014, 07:19:49 PM
Delusions of grandeur.
If anybody does the blocking, it's Ziggy.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 05, 2014, 07:39:05 PM
Wilshere showing a bit of form in Ramsey's absence. Gazza-esque body serves in and around the box. Cazorla out of a mini-slump too.

Great to get to January without a shock defeat.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 06, 2014, 06:26:42 PM
Arsenal's Theo Walcott ruled out for at least six months with knee injury... He has been seriously unlucky with Injuries
http://t.co/XJOPU6LYTt
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 06, 2014, 07:08:07 PM
Now look what you've gone and done O'Neill  >:(

He playing well too.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 06, 2014, 07:15:16 PM
Bad blow for him with the World Cup.

Good chance for Gnabry or the Ox.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: TabClear on January 06, 2014, 09:25:17 PM
Tough for Theo. looked bad at the time but I didn't think it would be so serious. Arsene might have to get the cheque book out in Jan now. Looking a bit light up front with bendtner it and podolski only back. Maybe £40m +£2??  ;)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on January 06, 2014, 09:26:31 PM
Talk of Wenger looking at Pedro but I can't see any 'big' names moving in Jan!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 06, 2014, 09:40:42 PM
Henry surely.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 07, 2014, 11:24:45 AM
All Walcott joking aside, I'm not one bit annoyed for Arsenal. I'm sure Theo is cut up about the World Cup and that's a big pity for him.

I think that for all Walcott's pace/unpredictability/goals (I know I know), his presence worsens the side. I think there's a link between his return and the slight loss in form of Ramsey and Ozil. I've watched nearly every minute of every game and before Theo returned the goals and general play was sublime - passing/movement/ball retention. That Wilshere goal typified the football Wenger tries to play and they were back at that level.

Theo is a conundrum though. He scores goals. He might fcuk up so many plays, make poor runs, poor crosses - but he gets on the ball so often and his confidence never wavers that every now and then the ball goes in. Wenger knows that and that's why he is starting now.

But I'd prefer the controlled passing game and if Oxlade or Gnabry or Podolski fits in there they have the intelligence to play that game and will bring the best out in Ozil and co.

But he does score goals....
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on January 07, 2014, 11:40:54 AM
Has Walcott been a regular for England under Hodgson? 
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on January 09, 2014, 05:11:19 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdjAYPdCQAEy-e7.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 13, 2014, 08:57:27 PM
That was sublime football in the first half. Every attacking player can play the ball at pace accurately.

Wilshere can be a wee balax though with the showboating. No wonder he gets a kicking every game.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 13, 2014, 10:09:39 PM
Feck me. That wasn't good for the heart in the last 20.

Good to see Chamberlain back.

Still would love to see one new face this month.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 13, 2014, 10:16:01 PM
Why is Jan Molby down as 'lazy'? Is it because of his weight? You don't get into the positions he did to receive and give passes, and control games, if you are lazy. I notice there's a degree of heft about the team, so maybe what they meant was they wanted to slate Adam and Berbatov, so they filled most of the side with heavy lads after that.

Brolin at his peak wasn't lazy either, he was a bundle of energy.

Good win tonight for l'Arse. If Liverpool can't win it, and they can't, then I hope Arsenal get there. If nothing else it will be a triumph for one man's stubborn refusal to bend his principles in a world gone mad with transfer fees.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 13, 2014, 10:20:42 PM
To an extent but whereas last season you'd expect Villa to equalize I was confident Arsenal would hold out. The BFG gave Cazorla some bollicking after the Villa goal. Great midfield options plenty of chatter around Draxler but would like to see another attacking option and CB come in. Looks like the games between the top 6 will decide the title and Arsenal have 5 of those away!!!!!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on January 14, 2014, 10:21:12 AM
Jaysus Draxler will cost a bundle - Schalke are still in the CL, no?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 14, 2014, 10:39:08 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on January 14, 2014, 10:21:12 AM
Jaysus Draxler will cost a bundle - Schalke are still in the CL, no?

The chatter is he's coming in the summer but Arsenal might look to bring him in now which is typical Wenger, need a CF or CB lets buy a midfielder instead.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on January 15, 2014, 11:02:19 AM
Dortmund tried to sign Draxler at the end of last season but instead he signed an extension with Schalke.
Schalke fans then hired a truck and billboard to drive around Dortmund.

"With pride and passion until 2018 - contract extended"
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-22Y0bcNygVs/UY0FXVks-1I/AAAAAAAALng/iUu6J2nB3gY/s1600/julian-draxler-schalke-trucks.jpg)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 18, 2014, 03:54:11 PM
Poor first half. Offering nothing down the left. Need a spark from somewhere.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on January 18, 2014, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 13, 2014, 10:16:01 PM
Why is Jan Molby down as 'lazy'? Is it because of his weight? You don't get into the positions he did to receive and give passes, and control games, if you are lazy. I notice there's a degree of heft about the team, so maybe what they meant was they wanted to slate Adam and Berbatov, so they filled most of the side with heavy lads after that.

Brolin at his peak wasn't lazy either, he was a bundle of energy.

Good win tonight for l'Arse. If Liverpool can't win it, and they can't, then I hope Arsenal get there. If nothing else it will be a triumph for one man's stubborn refusal to bend his principles in a world gone mad with transfer fees.

Lazy analysis.  :P
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 18, 2014, 07:03:36 PM
Another 20 points and top 4 should be secured.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 20, 2014, 05:38:31 PM
(http://www.yliver.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/CRISIS-VIGNETTE-YLIVER.jpg)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 24, 2014, 10:14:47 PM
Fee agreed for Draxler.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: downtown on January 24, 2014, 10:20:49 PM
were you see that rodney
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on January 24, 2014, 10:30:05 PM
http://t.co/vMcvD7LfKg
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2014, 10:30:32 PM
4-0 was ok.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 26, 2014, 10:30:40 PM
Great couple of months coming up:

FEB 8 - AWAY V LIVERPOOL
FEB 12 - HOME V MAN U
FEB 15 - HOME V LIVERPOOL
FEB 19 - HOME V BAYERN

MAR 8 - QF OF FA CUP
MAR 11 - AWAY V MUNICH
MAR 15 - AWAY V SPURS
MAR 22 - AWAY V CHELSEA
MAR 29 - HOME V MAN CITY

APR 1 - QF OF CL
APR  - AWAY V EVERTON
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on January 26, 2014, 11:17:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 26, 2014, 10:30:40 PM
Great couple of months coming up:

FEB 8 - AWAY V LIVERPOOL
FEB 12 - HOME V MAN U
FEB 15 - HOME V LIVERPOOL
FEB 19 - HOME V BAYERN

MAR 8 - QF OF FA CUP
MAR 11 - AWAY V MUNICH
MAR 15 - AWAY V SPURS
MAR 22 - AWAY V CHELSEA
MAR 29 - HOME V MAN CITY

APR 1 - QF OF CL
APR  - AWAY V EVERTON

Some crunching games there!  :o
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on January 26, 2014, 11:25:59 PM
It's time for them to earn their wages

Potential champions should see this fixture list as the reason they were brought into the club.

No more excuses.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: gawa316 on January 26, 2014, 11:28:25 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 26, 2014, 10:30:40 PM
Great couple of months coming up:

FEB 8 - AWAY V LIVERPOOL
FEB 12 - HOME V MAN U
FEB 15 - HOME V LIVERPOOL
FEB 19 - HOME V BAYERN

MAR 8 - QF OF FA CUP cough
MAR 11 - AWAY V MUNICH
MAR 15 - AWAY V SPURS
MAR 22 - AWAY V CHELSEA
MAR 29 - HOME V MAN CITY

APR 1 - QF OF CL cough cough cough!
APR  - AWAY V EVERTON
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 26, 2014, 11:33:22 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on January 26, 2014, 11:25:59 PM
It's time for them to earn their wages

Potential champions should see this fixture list as the reason they were brought into the club.

No more excuses.

Exactly
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 28, 2014, 07:22:00 PM
Szczesny,
Sagna, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Monreal,
Arteta, Flamini,
Ozil, Cazorla, Gnabry,
Giroud

Need to keep winning these games before the collapse.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 28, 2014, 08:02:07 PM
16 mins gone and Arsenal haven't got out of their half yet. Southamelona.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 28, 2014, 08:11:06 PM
26 mins and Southamelona 1-0 up. Arsenal haven't strung 2 passes together.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: joemamas on January 28, 2014, 08:22:50 PM
Time for the rosary or a novena even. If you get -1 for effort or body language Arsenal would be 2-0 down. Holy shit after that miss make that 3-0
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 28, 2014, 08:34:20 PM
WTF was that half all about? Delayed arrival cannot excuse that.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 28, 2014, 09:45:27 PM
Got away with a lucky point there. Southampton should have won. Ozil kept them in that game, he was the only one who could hold onto the ball.

Don't think Arsenal play well with two defensive midfielders, both sit too deep inviting pressure and Arsenal drop back and without Walcott there is no outlet.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 28, 2014, 10:11:23 PM
Flamini misses 3. Ramsey out for 5 weeks.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on January 29, 2014, 01:10:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 28, 2014, 10:11:23 PM
Flamini misses 3. Ramsey out for 5 weeks.

Flamini banned for 4 apparently.

Arsenal in Germany to secure Draxler deal acc to Sky Sports.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 29, 2014, 09:43:45 PM
I'm forever blowin bubbles
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: gawa316 on February 01, 2014, 03:29:11 PM
Kallstrom injured in first training session...poor fecker!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 01, 2014, 06:15:40 PM
Not true. He was signed injured. Which is magnificent.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2014, 07:46:08 PM
So, into the mouth of hell.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 02, 2014, 09:08:58 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 02, 2014, 07:46:08 PM
So, into the mouth of hell.

Looking forward to it in a weird kind of way.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: laoislad on February 02, 2014, 09:10:52 PM
Arsenal will beat Liverpool handy enough next weekend.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 02, 2014, 11:04:45 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 02, 2014, 09:08:58 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 02, 2014, 07:46:08 PM
So, into the mouth of hell.

Looking forward to it in a weird kind of way.

Yes, same. Like taking your first stout.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 03, 2014, 01:06:22 AM
bringing in a player who is already injured and will miss the next nightmare few weeks must be Wengers way of conceding the title.

Giroud, while a good player, is nowhere near world class.

A shame really. Thought Arsenal had grown a set.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 03, 2014, 01:29:00 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on February 03, 2014, 01:06:22 AM
bringing in a player who is already injured and will miss the next nightmare few weeks must be Wengers way of conceding the title.

Giroud, while a good player, is nowhere near world class.


That sorta doesn't make any sense on a lot of levels.

They're top after 24 games.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 03, 2014, 01:57:17 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 03, 2014, 01:29:00 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on February 03, 2014, 01:06:22 AM
bringing in a player who is already injured and will miss the next nightmare few weeks must be Wengers way of conceding the title.

Giroud, while a good player, is nowhere near world class.


That sorta doesn't make any sense on a lot of levels.

They're top after 24 games.

I agree they are doing very well but they will need more than they currently have to beat Chelsea, Bayern and City. They couldn't even beat Man U ffs.

If Wenger was serious about competing he would have reinforced big.

Signing a crocked journeyman says to me he is lining up his excuses, knowing he won't win the title.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 03, 2014, 02:00:48 AM
You think he's not serious about competing? With 14 games left? And top?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 03, 2014, 02:30:35 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 03, 2014, 02:00:48 AM
You think he's not serious about competing? With 14 games left? And top?

If you are serious about competing with 14 games to go and a legitimate shot then you reinforce.

The world and his wife knew he needed at least another forward. What did he sign....


Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 03, 2014, 10:51:28 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on February 03, 2014, 02:30:35 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 03, 2014, 02:00:48 AM
You think he's not serious about competing? With 14 games left? And top?

If you are serious about competing with 14 games to go and a legitimate shot then you reinforce.

The world and his wife knew he needed at least another forward. What did he sign....




Now you post on this thread!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 05, 2014, 01:58:23 PM
(http://ballsdot.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/superheroars.gif)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 05, 2014, 07:49:37 PM
I think if anybody else wants that PL trophy more badly, they'll have to pry it from Arsene's cold dead hands.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 05, 2014, 08:01:46 PM
Would take a draw at Anfield but have to beat Utd midweek - even just for the development of this side.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 06, 2014, 11:40:02 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 05, 2014, 08:01:46 PM
Would take a draw at Anfield but have to beat Utd midweek - even just for the development of this side.

Agree with that Liverpool aren't a benchmark and a win over Man United would starve inner doubt and feed the belief that they can actual do something this season.

Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 08, 2014, 01:13:47 PM
Well, ahem, can't blame Walcott.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Gazzler on February 08, 2014, 01:28:08 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 06, 2014, 11:40:02 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 05, 2014, 08:01:46 PM
Would take a draw at Anfield but have to beat Utd midweek - even just for the development of this side.

Agree with that Liverpool aren't a benchmark and a win over Man United would starve inner doubt and feed the belief that they can actual do something this season.

;D
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 08, 2014, 01:36:24 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on February 03, 2014, 02:30:35 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 03, 2014, 02:00:48 AM
You think he's not serious about competing? With 14 games left? And top?

If you are serious about competing with 14 games to go and a legitimate shot then you reinforce.

The world and his wife knew he needed at least another forward. What did he sign....




And his options off the bench are..........

Amazing that Wenger sees Arteta as a holding midfielder. Couldn't tackle a paper bag.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: The Worker on February 08, 2014, 01:38:44 PM
Bring on Kim kallstrom
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 08, 2014, 01:50:05 PM
Obviously saving themselves for Utd.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 08, 2014, 01:51:01 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on February 08, 2014, 01:36:24 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on February 03, 2014, 02:30:35 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 03, 2014, 02:00:48 AM
You think he's not serious about competing? With 14 games left? And top?

If you are serious about competing with 14 games to go and a legitimate shot then you reinforce.

The world and his wife knew he needed at least another forward. What did he sign....




And his options off the bench are..........

Amazing that Wenger sees Arteta as a holding midfielder. Couldn't tackle a paper bag.

There is no validation to your opinion as you only post when things go wrong. Empty!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 08, 2014, 01:52:38 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on February 08, 2014, 01:28:08 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 06, 2014, 11:40:02 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 05, 2014, 08:01:46 PM
Would take a draw at Anfield but have to beat Utd midweek - even just for the development of this side.

Agree with that Liverpool aren't a benchmark and a win over Man United would starve inner doubt and feed the belief that they can actual do something this season.

;D

You need to look up benchmarking.

One off performances while of exceptional standard are not a benchmark.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Gazzler on February 08, 2014, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 08, 2014, 01:52:38 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on February 08, 2014, 01:28:08 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 06, 2014, 11:40:02 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 05, 2014, 08:01:46 PM
Would take a draw at Anfield but have to beat Utd midweek - even just for the development of this side.

Agree with that Liverpool aren't a benchmark and a win over Man United would starve inner doubt and feed the belief that they can actual do something this season.

;D

You need to look up benchmarking.

One off performances while of exceptional standard are not a benchmark.

;D
Are you going to lock the thread again.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Agent Orange on February 08, 2014, 02:03:19 PM
Arsenals season just won downhill gold at the winter olympics.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 08, 2014, 02:33:36 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 08, 2014, 01:51:01 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on February 08, 2014, 01:36:24 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on February 03, 2014, 02:30:35 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 03, 2014, 02:00:48 AM
You think he's not serious about competing? With 14 games left? And top?

If you are serious about competing with 14 games to go and a legitimate shot then you reinforce.

The world and his wife knew he needed at least another forward. What did he sign....




And his options off the bench are..........

Amazing that Wenger sees Arteta as a holding midfielder. Couldn't tackle a paper bag.

There is no validation to your opinion as you only post when things go wrong. Empty!

Yeh. Sure.

I'm not wrong though. 
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 08, 2014, 02:53:22 PM
Fascinating to see how Arsenal respond. It has been a strength all season.

Tyroneman, no amount of signings would have prevented that 4-0 after 20 mins....especially a forward.

That was freakish.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: The Worker on February 08, 2014, 02:57:10 PM
Still fancy arsenal to finish 3rd this year.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 08, 2014, 03:00:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 08, 2014, 02:53:22 PM
Fascinating to see how Arsenal respond. It has been a strength all season.

Tyroneman, no amount of signings would have prevented that 4-0 after 20 mins....especially a forward.

That was freakish.

Have responded well so far this season to set backs, Wednesday will be interesting.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2014, 05:01:35 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 06, 2014, 11:40:02 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 05, 2014, 08:01:46 PM
Would take a draw at Anfield but have to beat Utd midweek - even just for the development of this side.

Agree with that Liverpool aren't a benchmark and a win over Man United would starve inner doubt and feed the belief that they can actual do something this season.

Who are you kidding? Manchester United under David Moyes are no benchmark. For Arsenal to do something this season they will have to beat Liverpool in the FA cup next weekend, after today that looks unlikely to happen.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: laoislad on February 08, 2014, 05:03:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 08, 2014, 01:51:01 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on February 08, 2014, 01:36:24 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on February 03, 2014, 02:30:35 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 03, 2014, 02:00:48 AM
You think he's not serious about competing? With 14 games left? And top?

If you are serious about competing with 14 games to go and a legitimate shot then you reinforce.

The world and his wife knew he needed at least another forward. What did he sign....




And his options off the bench are..........

Amazing that Wenger sees Arteta as a holding midfielder. Couldn't tackle a paper bag.

There is no validation to your opinion as you only post when things go wrong. Empty!
He only sings when you're losing....sings when you're losing....He only sings when you're looooosssing.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on February 08, 2014, 07:01:55 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2014, 05:01:35 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 06, 2014, 11:40:02 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 05, 2014, 08:01:46 PM
Would take a draw at Anfield but have to beat Utd midweek - even just for the development of this side.

Agree with that Liverpool aren't a benchmark and a win over Man United would starve inner doubt and feed the belief that they can actual do something this season.

Who are you kidding? Manchester United under David Moyes are no benchmark. For Arsenal to do something this season they will have to beat Liverpool in the FA cup next weekend, after today that looks unlikely to happen.

Not unlikely at all. This game is not in Anfield! Liverpool have no bother getting up for the big game here and there, but they cannot do it week in week out. Wenger because of a busy schedule and a small squad will have to probably prioritise certain games this month. Will he treat the FA Cup as a secondary competition? Will be hard after today and in front of home support.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 08, 2014, 07:08:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 08, 2014, 02:53:22 PM
Fascinating to see how Arsenal respond. It has been a strength all season.

Tyroneman, no amount of signings would have prevented that 4-0 after 20 mins....especially a forward.

That was freakish.

The signing of a forward who posed a mobile threat might have given Liverpool something to think about. 

The signing of a decent lb and at least one decent defensive MF might have helped also.

The absence of Flamini was crucial today. Arteta is not a leader. Wasn't at Rangers. Wasn't at Everton. Isn't at Arsenal.

Out of the top 6 teams I would like to see Arsenal take the title.  It's just quite frustrating to see Wenger fail to strengthen from a position of strength a la Chelsea.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 09, 2014, 06:19:22 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on February 08, 2014, 07:08:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 08, 2014, 02:53:22 PM
Fascinating to see how Arsenal respond. It has been a strength all season.

Tyroneman, no amount of signings would have prevented that 4-0 after 20 mins....especially a forward.

That was freakish.

The signing of a forward who posed a mobile threat might have given Liverpool something to think about. 

The signing of a decent lb and at least one decent defensive MF might have helped also.

The absence of Flamini was crucial today. Arteta is not a leader. Wasn't at Rangers. Wasn't at Everton. Isn't at Arsenal.

Out of the top 6 teams I would like to see Arsenal take the title.  It's just quite frustrating to see Wenger fail to strengthen from a position of strength a la Chelsea.

No one is arguing with you because all you do is criticise Wenger and never give credit, measured analysis.

I would always be a half-full kinda of person always looking for a positive but would try and offer measured criticism and would have loved to see a strike come in January but it is what it is.

Anyhow Man United will be under immense pressure for a result on Wednesday night, if they have looked at the Liverpool game and the Southampton one before that they will see Arsenal didn't like been put under pressure high up the field and coughed up possession really easy. That way is the way to play the Arsenal so I'm hoping Moyes will become negative and try and park the bus, that would suit Arsenal to a tee.

Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 11, 2014, 09:58:13 PM
Nobody wants this title?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2014, 09:38:40 PM
Steadies the ship a bit.

9 points need to be taken from the next 3 mid tablers and below.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 12, 2014, 09:41:35 PM
It was a bit meh! Important not to lose but just want to see Arsenal beat one of these teams.

How shit was Mata?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: wildrover on February 12, 2014, 09:47:16 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 12, 2014, 09:41:35 PM
It was a bit meh! Important not to lose but just want to see Arsenal beat one of these teams.

How shit was Mata?

About as poor as Ozil was!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 12, 2014, 09:55:58 PM
Quote from: wildrover on February 12, 2014, 09:47:16 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 12, 2014, 09:41:35 PM
It was a bit meh! Important not to lose but just want to see Arsenal beat one of these teams.

How shit was Mata?

About as poor as Ozil was!

Really? Watch the game and not the perception. Anything good about Arsenal tonight generally came through Ozil. Lazy man's narrative.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 12, 2014, 10:04:14 PM
Spurs and Liverpool are even back in this Epl title 'race'.

Why were the crowd booing at the end of the match tonight? Arsenal didn't break down a resolute Utd, but was it really a booable performance?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 12, 2014, 10:08:03 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 12, 2014, 10:04:14 PM
Spurs and Liverpool are even back in this Epl title 'race'.

Why were the crowd booing at the end of the match tonight? Arsenal didn't break down a resolute Utd, but was it really a booable performance?

I presume it's because they were pushing for a winner (and it felt like it was coming) and then as the game went into injury time, the hand-brake came on. The crowd were frustrated with this and it just manifested itself as Boos at the end.

Very similar to the post-Man City game, consolidate and move on.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 12, 2014, 10:17:37 PM
That's what I thought too. It looked for a while like Arsenal were finally putting on some real pressure, and then it was like they just stopped.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 12, 2014, 10:45:24 PM
Arsenal are still coming out winners during this month of trial and tribulation, even if they are not actually winning the important games.
After another few weeks you can see them nudging a few points clear again, much to the chagrin of the other contenders.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: wildrover on February 12, 2014, 10:59:34 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 12, 2014, 09:55:58 PM
Quote from: wildrover on February 12, 2014, 09:47:16 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 12, 2014, 09:41:35 PM
It was a bit meh! Important not to lose but just want to see Arsenal beat one of these teams.

How shit was Mata?

About as poor as Ozil was!

Really? Watch the game and not the perception. Anything good about Arsenal tonight generally came through Ozil. Lazy man's narrative.

Is the idea to patronise me into saying Ozil was good tonight?...because he certainly wasn't. He has no penetration, his work-rate was dire and his attitude towards his team-mates was terrible. His quality can pick the lock of lower-table teams but he has yet to show that he has the stomach for the bigger teams.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 12, 2014, 11:13:23 PM
Quote from: wildrover on February 12, 2014, 10:59:34 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 12, 2014, 09:55:58 PM
Quote from: wildrover on February 12, 2014, 09:47:16 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 12, 2014, 09:41:35 PM
It was a bit meh! Important not to lose but just want to see Arsenal beat one of these teams.

How shit was Mata?

About as poor as Ozil was!

Really? Watch the game and not the perception. Anything good about Arsenal tonight generally came through Ozil. Lazy man's narrative.

Is the idea to patronise me into saying Ozil was good tonight?...because he certainly wasn't. He has no penetration, his work-rate was dire and his attitude towards his team-mates was terrible. His quality can pick the lock of lower-table teams but he has yet to show that he has the stomach for the bigger teams.

Plenty of sound bites but just perception. I never stated Ozil was good tonight.

Amazing what stats are out there, Ozil created seven chances to Mata's one, and had a 78% passing accuracy in United's half compared to Mata's 66% in Arsenal's half. Yea very similar performances.


Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: wildrover on February 12, 2014, 11:29:34 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 12, 2014, 11:13:23 PM
Quote from: wildrover on February 12, 2014, 10:59:34 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 12, 2014, 09:55:58 PM
Quote from: wildrover on February 12, 2014, 09:47:16 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 12, 2014, 09:41:35 PM
It was a bit meh! Important not to lose but just want to see Arsenal beat one of these teams.

How shit was Mata?

About as poor as Ozil was!

Really? Watch the game and not the perception. Anything good about Arsenal tonight generally came through Ozil. Lazy man's narrative.

Is the idea to patronise me into saying Ozil was good tonight?...because he certainly wasn't. He has no penetration, his work-rate was dire and his attitude towards his team-mates was terrible. His quality can pick the lock of lower-table teams but he has yet to show that he has the stomach for the bigger teams.

Plenty of sound bites but just perception. I never stated Ozil was good tonight.

Amazing what stats are out there, Ozil created seven chances to Mata's one, and had a 78% passing accuracy in United's half compared to Mata's 66% in Arsenal's half. Yea very similar performances.

Mata was completely ineffective tonight. Ozil equally so.

Do these computer generated stats tell you how clear-cut the chances Ozil created were?...Or can I just trust my own two eyes and subsequently make a judgement based on that? Arsenals two best chances were a corner cleared off the line and Sagna's whipped cross to Giroud. Outside that they created very little and only looked remotely dangerous when Wilshere came galloping into the box.

Can you also ask your friends at Opta Stats to break the 78% passing accuracy down into 'meaningful pass' accuracy and 'achieved absolutely nothing' pass accuracy?!...or again can I trust my own two eyes on that one?

Perception...
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 12, 2014, 11:48:33 PM
Classic I trust my own two eyes above stats, very 80s. What I  saw was one player very comfortable on the ball controlling the tempo of the attack, looking to make things happen, he created opportunities retained possession well. The stats just happen to back this up. Not a master class but a solid performance in a tight game.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 12, 2014, 11:53:38 PM
How the fcuk do you boys watch two midfielders in two different games at the same time?

My knitting goes to shit watching one.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: wildrover on February 13, 2014, 12:01:52 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 12, 2014, 11:48:33 PM
Classic I trust my own two eyes above stats, very 80s. What I  saw was one player very comfortable on the ball controlling the tempo of the attack, looking to make things happen, he created opportunities retained possession well. The stats just happen to back this up. Not a master class but a solid performance in a tight game.

But I have simply pointed out that the finer details are missing within those statistics and those missing details are key to unpicking Ozil's performance tonight. Ozil's job is to create chances (he certainly is asked to put in a shift defensively) and that no chances were created directly or indirectly by him, lead me to a very straightforward conclusion...that he therefore didn't do his job very well.

In any case I would be extremely worried about any individual who didn't trust what they saw with their own two eyes.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: wildrover on February 13, 2014, 12:04:08 AM
Quote from: wildrover on February 13, 2014, 12:01:52 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 12, 2014, 11:48:33 PM
Classic I trust my own two eyes above stats, very 80s. What I  saw was one player very comfortable on the ball controlling the tempo of the attack, looking to make things happen, he created opportunities retained possession well. The stats just happen to back this up. Not a master class but a solid performance in a tight game.

But I have simply pointed out that the finer details are missing within those statistics and those missing details are key to unpicking Ozil's performance tonight. Ozil's job is to create chances (he certainly is asked to put in a shift defensively) and that no chances were created directly or indirectly by him, lead me to a very straightforward conclusion...that he therefore didn't do his job very well.

In any case I would be extremely worried about any individual who didn't trust what they saw with their own two eyes.

Christ!

Chris Smalling was 'looking to make things happen'...doesn't mean he was remotely close to being able to do it!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 13, 2014, 12:20:37 AM
Best bit of advice i can give you is never judge a game in a live context on your own two eyes , review the game through gentle eyes, use the stats available and lose the narrative. It will make you a better player coach even internet pundit.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: wildrover on February 13, 2014, 12:28:02 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 13, 2014, 12:20:37 AM
Best bit of advice i can give you is never judge a game in a live context on your own two eyes , review the game through gentle eyes, use the stats available and lose the narrative. It will make you a better player coach even internet pundit.

Wonderfully profound advice Dinny. I cannot be anything but grateful that it is me that you have chosen to enlighten with your infinite wisdom...

Or go and spew out your patronising drivel to someone else who is more receptive to it...

Perception...
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Apparently so on February 13, 2014, 02:33:54 AM
Spurs could take past Arsenal in the next couple of months with the way things are  :o

Hopefully
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 13, 2014, 07:33:30 AM
http://news.arseblog.com/2014/02/arsenal-0-0-man-u-by-the-numbers/
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 13, 2014, 09:53:55 AM
Quote from: wildrover on February 13, 2014, 12:28:02 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 13, 2014, 12:20:37 AM
Best bit of advice i can give you is never judge a game in a live context on your own two eyes , review the game through gentle eyes, use the stats available and lose the narrative. It will make you a better player coach even internet pundit.

Wonderfully profound advice Dinny. I cannot be anything but grateful that it is me that you have chosen to enlighten with your infinite wisdom...

Or go and spew out your patronising drivel to someone else who is more receptive to it...

Perception...

Your welcome you can find me here most days if you need anymore advice. Moral victories a specialty.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 14, 2014, 12:53:46 PM
Fair play to Wenger for saying this. I know it's all media games and bluster, but it's nice to see someone saying 'Yeah we're in it, and we're going to try and win it'.

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has declared the Premier League title is 'Chelsea's to lose'.
Blues boss Jose Mourinho has repeatedly downplayed his side's chances of winning the league, despite being top of the table.
However, the Gunners boss believes Mourinho's comments come from a fear of failure.

"It is very open, only Chelsea can lose it now because they are in front and all the other teams can win it. I've always said many teams are in it and it will be very tight until the end," he said.
Asked why, apart from himself and Manchester City boss Manuel Pellegrini, every other manager is ruling out title success, Wenger responded: "It's a fear to fail."

Wenger maintains his only focus will be on making sure Arsenal can finish above their rivals come May.
"If you're not in the race you cannot lose it, if you declare yourself not in the race you cannot lose it, simple as that," he said.

"I think just that our job is to be ambitious and to try to win, if we do not win to take full responsibility for that. That's as simple as that and that's how I see it.

"I say yes we are in it, yes we will have a go for it, we will absolutely give everything to go for it and if we don't do it I will take responsibility for it, but I just see it like that."

Wenger added: "We live in a league and in a country where we have one advantage - everybody can think what he wants, (but) it is very difficult when you're first in the league to distract people."

The French manager said Arsenal are looking forward to putting the record straight against Liverpool this weekend in the FA Cup after they were thrashed 5-1 by the Reds at Anfield.
Wenger was asked during Friday's press conference whether Liverpool were the last team that his side wanted to play.
"No, it's the first team we want to play," Wenger answered.
"When you can put things right, what you want is an opportunity to do that and we have that opportunity."
And he dismissed claims that he was prioritising the FA Cup as he bids to end a barren run of nine years without a trophy.
"We will go for any competition we can and the FA Cup is one of the competitions, since it's our next game, of course, we will go for it."
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2014, 06:37:56 PM
A good run out for the bench.

Bayern won 4-0 I think.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on February 16, 2014, 08:16:20 PM
Lucky not to get stuck in the Webb today.

Dodgy penalty and Gerrard should have walked.

Kept Liverpool in it.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: cadhlancian on February 16, 2014, 08:23:17 PM
Dodgy penalty?? Liverpool should have had 3 penalties . 3 shots on goal at home, and Fabianski was motm. Enough said.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2014, 11:26:47 PM
His only crime was tactility

http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/16/olivier-giroud-admits-to-cheating-on-wife-via-twitter-4306355/
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on February 16, 2014, 11:27:00 PM
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01702/hi-ya_epa_1702972c.jpg)

Howard Webb believed the above to be a yellow card.

If Suarez hadn't jumped off his feet and gone down like he'd fallen off his stilettos, he might have had a case.

I'd like to see more Webb style penalty/no penalty decisions. Players should only 'go down' when they have been tripped or properly felled.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 16, 2014, 11:30:46 PM
A penalty shall only be awarded if you can show stud marks on your chest!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: muppet on February 16, 2014, 11:32:11 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 16, 2014, 11:30:46 PM
A penalty shall only be awarded if you can show stud marks on your chest!

Now you have it.

After a long career, a player like Suarez should have a chest that looks like the surface of the moon.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 17, 2014, 10:02:31 AM
Well done lads. I hope ye go on and win it now. I was happy with LFC's display in the second half, which is all I saw, and I thought the first peno was soft, but the second one was nailed on. Arsenal looked nervy in that second half, but still looked dangerous on counters and Oxade Chamberlain and Podolski give them a bit more direct threat I think.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2014, 11:06:23 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 17, 2014, 10:02:31 AM
Well done lads. I hope ye go on and win it now. I was happy with LFC's display in the second half, which is all I saw, and I thought the first peno was soft, but the second one was nailed on. Arsenal looked nervy in that second half, but still looked dangerous on counters and Oxade Chamberlain and Podolski give them a bit more direct threat I think.

Cheers AZ, I for one don't understand why Podolski doesn't start more. The penalties were both penalties but if Suarez hadn't reacted like this, it surely would have been given.

(http://beyondmediaonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/platoon.jpg)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 17, 2014, 12:18:16 PM
There you go blaming Suarez for the ref's decision.
The first penalty was softly and stupidly conceded but it was a certified penalty. The denied penalty, either the ref saw it as a fair challenge or he thought the Arsenal player got his foot to the ball.
Awarding  a 2nd penalty so late in the game, the ref would have to be 100% sure and he bottled it.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: trileacman on February 17, 2014, 12:26:53 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 17, 2014, 12:18:16 PM
There you go blaming Suarez for the ref's decision.
The first penalty was softly and stupidly conceded but it was a certified penalty. The denied penalty, either the ref saw it as a fair challenge or he thought the Arsenal player got his foot to the ball.
Awarding  a 2nd penalty so late in the game, the ref would have to be 100% sure and he bottled it.

He can't have thought that Ox got to the ball otherwise he would have had to give a corner. He knew that Suarez got the last touch which makes his call all the more bizarre.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2014, 12:27:32 PM
(http://www.kidztory.com/apps_images/the-boy-who-cried-wolf_04.jpg)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2014, 12:40:06 PM
(http://i.minus.com/irMVhlpuQdoq.gif)

Webb's view, not an obvious one from that angle but since we're discussing penalties why wasn't the foul on Cazorla by Skertel not given?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: deiseach on February 17, 2014, 12:50:04 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2014, 11:06:23 AM
Cheers AZ, I for one don't understand why Podolski doesn't start more. The penalties were both penalties but if Suarez hadn't reacted like this, it surely would have been given.

And yet referees give penalties when players fling their hands in the air all the time. I think the thing with Howard Webb is that he makes his mind up before anything happens, e.g. he was determined in the World Cup final that he wasn't going to sully his big day with a red card and only gave one when he ran out of Dutch players to whom he could give a single yellow. It has the virtue of appearing decisive and if there is one thing the authorities value in a ref, it's decisiveness.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2014, 12:55:17 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 17, 2014, 10:02:31 AM
Well done lads. I hope ye go on and win it now. I was happy with LFC's display in the second half, which is all I saw, and I thought the first peno was soft, but the second one was nailed on. Arsenal looked nervy in that second half, but still looked dangerous on counters and Oxade Chamberlain and Podolski give them a bit more direct threat I think.

I thought you were a Gooner. I need to pay attention.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: EC Unique on February 17, 2014, 02:13:11 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2014, 12:40:06 PM
(http://i.minus.com/irMVhlpuQdoq.gif)

Webb's view, not an obvious one from that angle but since we're discussing penalties why wasn't the foul on Cazorla by Skertel not given?

From that view it looks like Saurez leads in with a shoulder charge, he then comes off second best and goes down. Can see why the ref did not give it from that angle. The way he flaps up on his back is hilarious... 10/10 for effort  ;D
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 17, 2014, 02:15:03 PM
Quote from: trileacman on February 17, 2014, 12:26:53 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 17, 2014, 12:18:16 PM
There you go blaming Suarez for the ref's decision.
The first penalty was softly and stupidly conceded but it was a certified penalty. The denied penalty, either the ref saw it as a fair challenge or he thought the Arsenal player got his foot to the ball.
Awarding  a 2nd penalty so late in the game, the ref would have to be 100% sure and he bottled it.

He can't have thought that Ox got to the ball otherwise he would have had to give a corner. He knew that Suarez got the last touch which makes his call all the more bizarre.
It was a poor call but he doesn't deserve the vilification, there's a bit of doubt from his angle of vision. He's a good ref but not a top ref.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on February 17, 2014, 02:47:51 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 17, 2014, 02:13:11 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2014, 12:40:06 PM
(http://i.minus.com/irMVhlpuQdoq.gif)

Webb's view, not an obvious one from that angle but since we're discussing penalties why wasn't the foul on Cazorla by Skertel not given?

From that view it looks like Saurez leads in with a shoulder charge, he then comes off second best and goes down. Can see why the ref did not give it from that angle. The way he flaps up on his back is hilarious... 10/10 for effort  ;D

Doesnt look like a pen from that angle.......but it does from the other one available.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on February 17, 2014, 04:40:26 PM
look like a  shoulder charge from Suarez..

Quote from: STREET FIGHTER on February 17, 2014, 02:47:51 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on February 17, 2014, 02:13:11 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2014, 12:40:06 PM
(http://i.minus.com/irMVhlpuQdoq.gif)

Webb's view, not an obvious one from that angle but since we're discussing penalties why wasn't the foul on Cazorla by Skertel not given?

From that view it looks like Saurez leads in with a shoulder charge, he then comes off second best and goes down. Can see why the ref did not give it from that angle. The way he flaps up on his back is hilarious... 10/10 for effort  ;D

Doesnt look like a pen from that angle.......but it does from the other one available.
he came off worse.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 17, 2014, 06:36:01 PM
(http://f3.thejournal.ie/media/2014/02/fc-4-399x500.png)
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2014, 08:13:36 PM
Team for Bayern?

Back 4 solid.

Flamini - Arteta
Wilshere - Cazorla - Ozil
Giroud

Ox/Pod must be due a start in a big game. Rosicky?
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 19, 2014, 08:46:45 AM
Arsenal would have more experience than City but after watching City last night you'd have to worry about the standard of the EPL and really fear for Arsenal tonight, Liverpool and Southampton showed that the high press creates opportunities and what manager loves his teams playing that way and with much more quality in his team gulp!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: beer baron on February 19, 2014, 09:24:14 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 17, 2014, 08:13:36 PM
Team for Bayern?

Back 4 solid.

Flamini - Arteta
Wilshere - Cazorla - Ozil
Giroud

Ox/Pod must be due a start in a big game. Rosicky?

Think Arteta's suspended which'll probably mean Wilshere dropping back and then disappearing every few minutes and leaving Flamini very exposed
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ExiledGael on February 19, 2014, 06:56:41 PM
Sanogo??
Giroud's head must be all over the place
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: seafoid on February 19, 2014, 07:07:29 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 19, 2014, 08:46:45 AM
Arsenal would have more experience than City but after watching City last night you'd have to worry about the standard of the EPL and really fear for Arsenal tonight, Liverpool and Southampton showed that the high press creates opportunities and what manager loves his teams playing that way and with much more quality in his team gulp!
Man Utd always score, Dinny
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 19, 2014, 08:31:06 PM
Two poorly taken penalties. Bayern Munich should have enough to beat ten man Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 19, 2014, 08:41:33 PM
Ozil starting to irk me. No doubting his ability. I think he's used to being around better players.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: seafoid on February 19, 2014, 09:33:12 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 19, 2014, 08:41:33 PM
Ozil starting to irk me. No doubting his ability. I think he's used to being around better players.
He might not make it to Brazil
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on February 19, 2014, 09:55:30 PM
The title of this thread is beginning to look ironic!
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on February 19, 2014, 10:05:30 PM
Only saw the second half, but jaysus he looked a forlorn chap. Didn't exactly die for the cause.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Jonah on February 19, 2014, 10:09:16 PM
Biggest waste of money since Andy Carroll.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 19, 2014, 10:57:11 PM
Form not great and then missed penalty so confidence dropped add in new league new country new culture form in the 1st season was always going to be up an down. Wilshere I can offer no reason shell of the player he was 2 seasons ago.

Still the effort was commendable and if Arsenal score the 1st goal in the 2nd leg well then it's game on.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 19, 2014, 11:25:53 PM
Jamie Carragher reckons Arsenal should rest players in the second leg and concentrate on League and FA Cup.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 19, 2014, 11:43:16 PM
As the game wore on my attitude to Ozil changed - he did give a fcuk and was chasing down their defenders when no one else was.

That was an unfortunate game. The first 10 mins were the best Arsenal have played in yonks. Playing Munich is tough and it was expected they'd have a period of dominance. Just before the penalty they'd looked like two boxers looking forward to the end of a round and a chance to go at it again in the second half. The red card was crucial.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: seafoid on February 20, 2014, 06:47:42 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 19, 2014, 11:43:16 PM
As the game wore on my attitude to Ozil changed - he did give a fcuk and was chasing down their defenders when no one else was.

That was an unfortunate game. The first 10 mins were the best Arsenal have played in yonks. Playing Munich is tough and it was expected they'd have a period of dominance. Just before the penalty they'd looked like two boxers looking forward to the end of a round and a chance to go at it again in the second half. The red card was crucial.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/feb/19/arsenal-v-bayern-munich-live-champions-league-report

78 min "Ozil," says Sarah McLeroy. "This was definitely in the brochure. It's who Ozil is, brilliant for a while and then invisible or even a liability the rest of the time. He can be sublime but that never lasts. He has shown this inability to play at his highest level for long periods of time running at every club he has played at."
Sorry, should have made it clearer: I meant that marking a full-back wasn't in the brochure that Arsenal showed him.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 21, 2014, 11:50:11 AM
http://m.soundcloud.com/an-irishman-abroad (http://m.soundcloud.com/an-irishman-abroad)

Interesting interview with Jerry Flannery now conditioning coach with the Arsenal academy.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 22, 2014, 10:16:13 PM
Nice goal Rosicky today.

A real plus from this year has been the dominance over lower half sides...as it should be.
Title: Re: Official "Can't get Mesut Özil off you" Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 22, 2014, 10:20:11 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 22, 2014, 10:16:13 PM
Nice goal Rosicky today.

A real plus from this year has been the dominance over lower half sides...as it should be.
Flat track bullies
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2014, 05:17:45 PM
That was shit, shit game and shit performance, shit decision for the penalty but overall just shit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 02, 2014, 09:22:45 PM
Everything is shit.

Traditionally Arsenal exit every competition in the space of about 10 days at this stage.

MUST beat the Toffees in the cup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 08, 2014, 03:32:33 PM
Sanogo wouldn't be deadly now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 09, 2014, 05:24:53 PM
Arsenal's FA cup to lose if Wigan knock out Manchester City.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: naka on March 09, 2014, 08:04:46 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 09, 2014, 05:24:53 PM
Arsenal's FA cup to lose if Wigan knock out Manchester City.
wonder will they choke again
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: clarshack on March 09, 2014, 08:13:56 PM
Quote from: naka on March 09, 2014, 08:04:46 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 09, 2014, 05:24:53 PM
Arsenal's FA cup to lose if Wigan knock out Manchester City.
wonder will they choke again

guaranteed
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 10, 2014, 08:30:10 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 08, 2014, 03:32:33 PM
Sanogo wouldn't be deadly now.

He has the attributes but very raw and no where near the finished article hard to believe he's the reason le Boss didn't buy in January.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 11, 2014, 08:27:07 PM
The Ox taking this game to Bayern on his own. Super player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: seafoid on March 11, 2014, 08:51:12 PM
Ozil probably won't make it to Brazil
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 11, 2014, 08:55:09 PM
Arteta still dreadful and making dumb challenges for a man on a yellow.

Not sure how Schweinsteiger is still on the pitch. Must be in double figure fouls by now.

Great finish by Pod. Another by Arsenal and BM will be shi££in themselves
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 11, 2014, 09:42:07 PM
That wasn't too bad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: seafoid on March 11, 2014, 09:50:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 11, 2014, 09:42:07 PM
That wasn't too bad.
Sloppy Arse defending for the 1st goal.
They still haven't won the competition.
Bit like Kildare 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on March 11, 2014, 09:55:29 PM
http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 11, 2014, 09:55:38 PM
We're realistic.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: seafoid on March 11, 2014, 10:39:06 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 11, 2014, 09:55:38 PM
We're realistic.
I thought you were from Throne.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 11, 2014, 11:40:17 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 11, 2014, 09:55:38 PM
We're realistic.

Aye top 3 and FA Cup is a realistic goal, never going to win UCL.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 16, 2014, 06:32:21 PM
http://youtu.be/mGyqHWN1asM (http://youtu.be/mGyqHWN1asM)

Meh.

Win the next derby and things might get interesting.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 16, 2014, 06:38:13 PM
Well today's results confirmed the CL places. Just what order now?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 16, 2014, 09:39:20 PM
Quote from: muppet on March 16, 2014, 06:32:21 PM
http://youtu.be/mGyqHWN1asM (http://youtu.be/mGyqHWN1asM)

Meh.

Win the next derby and things might get interesting.

If Arsenal beat Chelski it's a fcuked up season. A draw would be a fine result too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 16, 2014, 11:19:13 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 16, 2014, 06:38:13 PM
Well today's results confirmed the CL places. Just what order now?
1) Manchester City
2) Chelsea
3) Liverpool
4) Arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on March 17, 2014, 02:49:06 PM
City still have to go away to arsenal, Liverpool, Utd and Everton. I think that makes Chelsea slight favs, but all 4 in with a chance
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: seafoid on March 17, 2014, 03:42:13 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on March 17, 2014, 02:49:06 PM
City still have to go away to arsenal, Liverpool, Utd and Everton. I think that makes Chelsea slight favs, but all 4 in with a chance
I think the big issue in March/April is squad depth and injury vulnerability.
Man Utd used to be the kings of the run in because they had it down to a tee . Anything can happen this year with players knackered and no definite favourite. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on March 22, 2014, 01:06:41 PM
Oh dear
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 22, 2014, 01:09:01 PM
Terrible booboo by the ref. game well and truly over.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on March 22, 2014, 01:13:19 PM
Another gut check failed miserably by the Gunners.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on March 22, 2014, 01:34:55 PM
Should not have been a red IMO regardless of the feck up, shot wasn't going in so not denying a goal scoring opportunity
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on March 22, 2014, 01:50:50 PM
Muppet looks a bit pissed off watching the game

(https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1888685_466659043467661_973484823_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BennyCake on March 22, 2014, 02:00:27 PM
It's true what they say - them black fellas all look the same  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 22, 2014, 02:08:50 PM
Shower of spineless fcukers.

No other side collapses like that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: trileacman on March 22, 2014, 02:13:48 PM
With all due respect to Arsenal and it's history but those lads have no balls at all. I mean you lads often cry about the big money mercenaries of City and Chelski but the "honest, academy select" and cut price french stars give nothing of themselves to the team. It's like watching them play for soccer aid.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 22, 2014, 02:17:28 PM
It's shocking cowardice.

Rochdale wouldn't collapse like this against Pool or Chelsea.

Fcuk them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 22, 2014, 02:32:00 PM
If theye nick one now they might get something out of it....

Should be embarrassed to call themselves footballers after that, spineless ducks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 22, 2014, 02:37:16 PM
Poor stuff from Arsenal gave up after the second goal. Liverpool should finish third at least in the table now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 22, 2014, 02:39:43 PM
No harm in losing to a drop-goal and a penalty thought they might sneak over for a try at the death.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 22, 2014, 02:46:09 PM
How can they face each other in training and think they're a top side?

Can beat 15 clubs home and away but those batterings against good sides are soul destroying.

No leaders. No guts. OK, Ramsey/Ozil/Wilshere/(ahem Theo) might have made a difference but defensively they're a shambles against quality. Mental toughness Arsene? Fcuk me.

Can't believe Samuel Jackson got sent off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 22, 2014, 02:50:25 PM
Was it not Laurence Fishbourne who got sent off?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syferus on March 22, 2014, 02:58:08 PM
Sad day for Wenger's 1000th. Probably my favourite soccer manager.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 22, 2014, 03:00:25 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 22, 2014, 01:50:50 PM
Muppet looks a bit pissed off watching the game

(https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1888685_466659043467661_973484823_n.jpg)


I can only aspire to that level of fitness.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 22, 2014, 03:58:16 PM
Said it once, I'll say it again....Arteta is simply not a top prem midfield player. Does nothing really well. The definition of meh.

Every top team needs top class talent. Arsenal had it with RvP. They might have it some day in Wilshire, Ramsey, Ox and very arguably Walcott but not yet and the rest are the archetypal decent squad players.

Wonder why RM and Barca passed on Carzola.....watch him against top sides.

No one on that team with bottle. Wenger talks about character when they rescue points against lower sides or when they get a euro win in a meaningless game....where was the bottle to take a rubbish ManU side apart. Or to get something off City and Chelsea. 

I wouldn't be surprised if they bottle the cup.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on March 22, 2014, 04:14:38 PM
An Arsenal fan/friend of mine on facebook is saying it's time for Wenger to go. Is that going too far?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2014, 04:28:38 PM
Chelsea played well in fairness but the collapse was worse.

3 horse race now, and all the advertising on Sky about it being the closes title race with 4 teams fighting it out!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 22, 2014, 05:19:00 PM
FA cup a must to save his job, otherwise he's running out if excuses. His failure to buy a striker will haunt him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 22, 2014, 05:27:56 PM
Failure to buy a striker and at least 2 dominating midfielders.

Vieria was the last Arsenal player could have went toe to toe with YaYa, Gerrard etc

Arteta lol
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 22, 2014, 05:29:21 PM
Wenger's Arsenal career really has been a game of two halves.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 22, 2014, 05:31:26 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 22, 2014, 05:29:21 PM
Wenger's Arsenal career really has been a game of two halves.

...to borrow a Clichy.......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 22, 2014, 05:32:21 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on March 22, 2014, 05:29:21 PM
Wenger's Arsenal career really has been a game of two halves.

His last couple of seasons have been a game of two halves!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 22, 2014, 10:59:29 PM
Arsene had his four most creative players ripped from him through injury but even a full strength side may not have prevented the big defeats.

This summer is massive. The board have been saying the money is finally there to compete. He has to buy ready-made players which may gall him but that's the nature of football in the Premier League these days.

In the same way I thought RVP was correct to leave, I'm glad Suarez didn't join. He deserves to play with better players.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on March 24, 2014, 12:02:25 AM
Arsenal are still performing above their station in life.
I can't remember when Arsenal had 4th place all but secured so early in the season. Even when Van Persie was in scintillating form, 4th place was a last gasp dive to the finishing tape.
Wenger has dragged the Arsenal to the point where 4th place is now a secure achievement. In order for the sound decision making to continue, Wenger's ears would have to be well protected from the usual chorus of deluded advice for the road ahead.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/19/article-2397451-1B57AE1F000005DC-519_634x412.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Never beat the deeler on March 24, 2014, 01:29:04 AM
Is that Mohamed Al Fayed?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 24, 2014, 11:32:48 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on March 24, 2014, 01:29:04 AM
Is that Mohamed Al Fayed?

I think it's Brian Cowen.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 24, 2014, 01:11:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?sns=em&v=ULhXt8TvyHU&app=desktop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?sns=em&v=ULhXt8TvyHU&app=desktop)

Dinny is taking it all quite well!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2014, 02:07:56 PM
Bayern have been ordered to close part of their stadium due to the homophobic posters towards Ozil during the Arsenal game, can't recall it being news at the time but it will be closed for Utd's game, will just mean less Germans see Utd get hammered in the ground
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 24, 2014, 02:24:23 PM
Nah, they're going to close the away end :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Armamike on March 24, 2014, 08:08:30 PM
Arsenal's lack of trophy winning has coincided with the new stadium hasn't it?  Just a case of not enough funds being made available for players the past 7-8 years?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 25, 2014, 01:09:45 AM
Quote from: Armamike on March 24, 2014, 08:08:30 PM
Arsenal's lack of trophy winning has coincided with the new stadium hasn't it?  Just a case of not enough funds being made available for players the past 7-8 years?

To an extent yes.

But even a division four side would know how to set up against world class opposition. Unfortunately Wenger's stubbornness to play it his way with average to good footballers has resulted in some of the most humiliating results in their history.

The penny has surely dropped now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 25, 2014, 08:47:39 PM
A real low right now.

Everton one up. Results stay like this and Everton in the driving seat for 4th.

Time to stand up Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: All of a Sludden on March 25, 2014, 08:58:57 PM
Arsenal have to go to Goodison, fourth isn't looking a certainty now.

Arsenal have been very shaky since Ozil got injured.

Everton 2-0 up now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on March 25, 2014, 09:18:07 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on March 25, 2014, 08:58:57 PM
Arsenal have to go to Goodison, fourth isn't looking a certainty now.

Arsenal have been very shaky since Ozil got injured.

Everton 2-0 up now.

2-1 to Ars now!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 25, 2014, 09:18:20 PM
Some turn around.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: All of a Sludden on March 25, 2014, 09:34:46 PM
2-2  >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 25, 2014, 09:37:50 PM
And lucky the ref blew it! Swansea were clean through
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 25, 2014, 09:42:13 PM
Everton could finish in fourth ahead of Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on March 25, 2014, 09:42:51 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on March 25, 2014, 09:37:50 PM
And lucky the ref blew it! Swansea were clean through
Crazy to blow the whistle yer man was through on goal!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 25, 2014, 09:44:20 PM
Everton turn Arsenal over at Goodison and it's Goodnight Vienna.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 25, 2014, 09:45:04 PM
Agree, he can't just say time was up cause it was also up when he allowed Arsenal a throw in before it!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 25, 2014, 09:57:30 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on March 25, 2014, 09:34:46 PM
2-2  >:(

I put on a bet at 13/2 that Swansea would equalise.

From now on I will bet against the f*ckers as it would appear to offer some return.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 25, 2014, 10:02:13 PM
Some shower.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 26, 2014, 11:06:54 AM
********** ****** ******* ******* ********* Wenger ***** *******
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 26, 2014, 03:24:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLGUrLXAjA0

Can't really argue with him... he can kick a ball off a nearby tree!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 29, 2014, 12:08:53 PM
Gulp. Keep it under 7 lads.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 29, 2014, 05:18:42 PM
Come on you Gooners!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 29, 2014, 05:20:50 PM
Win and your back in it!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 29, 2014, 05:52:48 PM
Scrap that! Everton going to take fourth at this rate
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: All of a Sludden on March 29, 2014, 06:41:41 PM
Get in !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 29, 2014, 06:42:24 PM
Much better ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Worker on March 29, 2014, 06:45:55 PM
Arsenal on top. Will they convert this onto the scoreboard?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 29, 2014, 07:31:35 PM
Bit of a fight shown there finally.

Need Everton to slip up somewhere.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on March 29, 2014, 07:31:56 PM
Man City didn't look that pushed about dropping 2 important points, Arsenal looked the more dauntless team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syferus on March 29, 2014, 10:56:49 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 29, 2014, 07:31:35 PM
Bit of a fight shown there finally.

Need Everton to slip up somewhere.

Or ye could just beat them next week..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 30, 2014, 12:14:48 AM
Spose. With Ramsey, Ozil and Wilshere all due back for the finish you'd imagine they'll be ok.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 30, 2014, 09:21:25 AM
What's the point? Arsenal never get any further than last 16,they're on a par with Celtic,only with about 50 times more money to spend
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: spirit0f91and94 on March 30, 2014, 11:43:29 AM
That makes spurs on par with Rangers....wasting money at every chance and a very badly managed club. In real terms "fur coat and no knickers" ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 30, 2014, 09:42:12 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on March 30, 2014, 09:21:25 AM
What's the point? Arsenal never get any further than last 16,they're on a par with Celtic,only with about 50 times more money to spend

Very philosophical tonight Tonius, No musings on Mr Sherwood dishing out alleged physical abuse to one of his team mates.

Does anyone  think winning the FA cup will break Arsenal's cycle?  I don't mean lack of trophies.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2014, 12:13:12 AM
All depends on whether Wenger spends. If, as the board reckons, the money is there and he buys another Chamakh then he has to go.

This cycle of finishing 4th and CL football, with no obvious benefit of CL football in terms of the club strengthening, is boring.

I'd rather get a new man in and finish 6-7-8th if it meant a new philosophy.

Wenger's tenure is of a time before the moneybags of Chelsea and Man City. He won't change.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 31, 2014, 11:07:14 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2014, 12:13:12 AM
All depends on whether Wenger spends. If, as the board reckons, the money is there and he buys another Chamakh then he has to go.

This cycle of finishing 4th and CL football, with no obvious benefit of CL football in terms of the club strengthening, is boring.

I'd rather get a new man in and finish 6-7-8th if it meant a new philosophy.

Wenger's tenure is of a time before the moneybags of Chelsea and Man City. He won't change.

Most of me agrees with that, you'd hope that winning the FA Cup would instill some belief in the younger players JW, AR, KG, OC, WS etc but it would need to be allied to Wenger signing a serious striker and a serious central midfielder and he would probably need to spend in the region of 60-80m.  Like you I just can't see it and a new philosophy is what's now required.

Is their manager strong enough in his own beliefs out there capable of bringing that to a club like Arsenal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on March 31, 2014, 11:23:59 AM
Quoteit would need to be allied to Wenger signing a serious striker and a serious central midfielder

What's a serious central midfielder - not winding, just curious.  I mean you have Wilshere, Ramsey and Chamberlain - is it another Song-type player?  I think ye should break the bank for Lewandowski.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on March 31, 2014, 11:31:37 AM
Diaby Imo has been a big loss for Arsenal this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 31, 2014, 11:38:17 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on March 31, 2014, 11:23:59 AM
Quoteit would need to be allied to Wenger signing a serious striker and a serious central midfielder

What's a serious central midfielder - not winding, just curious.  I mean you have Wilshere, Ramsey and Chamberlain - is it another Song-type player?  I think ye should break the bank for Lewandowski.

Well that deal is done long ago, he's joining Bayern on a free in June.

Lars Bender is the signing Arsenal need imo. A holding midfielder with enough pace to cover the ground.

Arteta has done well but he's getting on a bit and has been badly exposed in big games.

Interesting watching MOTD, where Hansen said Arsenal arent a bad side defensively, they just got their tactics all wrong away to Liverpool and Chelsea by playing a high line.

Now after reverting to a more withdrawn defence against City, the question is, how much control has Steve Bould over tactics. Did Wenger totally over power him and go with the formation away to LFC and CFC.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 31, 2014, 11:50:45 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on March 31, 2014, 11:23:59 AM
Quoteit would need to be allied to Wenger signing a serious striker and a serious central midfielder

What's a serious central midfielder - not winding, just curious.  I mean you have Wilshere, Ramsey and Chamberlain - is it another Song-type player?  I think ye should break the bank for Lewandowski.

Sorry bit ambiguous there I mean a Matuidi, Busquets, Martinez and yes Bender would be perfect ( Bender playing for the Arse) that type of player or a another Viera, Toure, Gerrard guys that physical dominate their opponent.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jonah on April 06, 2014, 02:58:50 PM
Wenger Out
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 06, 2014, 03:47:00 PM
At least Sanogo can tell the grandchildren about the offside load.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Worker on April 06, 2014, 03:54:37 PM
Merseyside doesn't agree with the gunners this year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on April 06, 2014, 06:35:41 PM
It's been said Wenger has allowed himself to believe these players are much better than they really are. Certainly seems so.

None of the back 4 are better than decent. Not 1 of them is a leader, a commander or a warrior. Carzola, Podolski, Rosicky are all window dressing. Great when winning. Nowhere when losing or need some dig.

Arteta remains a joke.

Keep Theo, Giroud, Ozil, Ramsey, Ox and Wilshere. Rest are dispensable.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 06, 2014, 10:19:10 PM
Muck.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on April 06, 2014, 10:49:31 PM
Arsenal now in a battle with Spurs and Man Ure for Europa League spots next season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Never beat the deeler on April 07, 2014, 06:12:18 AM
(https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/14577_797145756965211_1079643763_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 07, 2014, 11:52:20 AM
I see a lot of the influential blogs while not King makers are opinion makers and are coming out saying time for a change. Hardy to argue against Arsenal winning the FA Cup as the last act of a great man, although the way they're playing even that's hard to foresee.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 09, 2014, 04:48:56 PM
Totally agree with that.

Thanks Arsene, you were the club's finest but time to hit the hay.

It might mean 3-4 years of being Spursy but Groundhog Day is soul destroying. 4th place and the cup is a nice parting gift.

It'd be an awful pity if it ends up a disaster this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 09, 2014, 05:25:49 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 09, 2014, 04:48:56 PM
Totally agree with that.

Thanks Arsene, you were the club's finest but time to hit the hay.

It might mean 3-4 years of being Spursy but Groundhog Day is soul destroying. 4th place and the cup is a nice parting gift.

It'd be an awful pity if it ends up a disaster this season.

Klopp?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 09, 2014, 09:34:46 PM
Just a good manager they need.

Some hacks mention the 'Arsenal' way of playing possession football. But, traditionally, Arsenal were more renowned for their defensive approach. The Wenger way needs the top top players he had in Pires, Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira, Overmars, Fabregas....in fairness Arsenal got Wenger at the perfect time. France were the best in the world for about 4 years and he nabbed a few of them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 09, 2014, 11:09:53 PM
Traditionally Arsenal were known as a club who could play football before the dark years of defensive.
Arsenal were invested in crap football just before Wenger came along, traditionally had a bit of glory every 20 years or so and now that Wenger has defined high Arsenal standards that never existed before for them and stability of league position replacing helter skelter, some of the masses of acquired Arsenal fandom are in angst.
Wenger comes at a financial price but he is Arsenal down to the traditional bone and fortunately for Arsenal there are enough there who know that.
Use to be,  a bad season for defensive Arsenal was 10th to 15th place.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 09, 2014, 11:58:58 PM
None of that makes any sense.

Almost as much sense as:

I can't remember when Arsenal had 4th place all but secured so early in the season.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on April 10, 2014, 12:57:34 AM
The rot set in with the double winning side of 70/71,a hollow victory based in dour football and a complete contrast with the free flowing football that was the Mark of the Spurs side who won the elusive double ten years previously.

Wenger to his credit had Arsenal playing attacking football for a short period but he could not rid them permanently of the negativity that's in Arsenal's DNA
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 10, 2014, 09:22:43 AM
The 'Rot' started in the 1970/71 Double season? OK....

Since 1970/71 Arsenal's roll of honour
League Champions 1989 (pah!), 1991, 1998, 2002 and 2004 (5 times)
FA Cup Champions 1979, 1993, 1998, 2002, 2003, 2005 (6)
League Cup Champions 1987, 1993 (2)
European Cup Winners Cup 1994

Since 1970/71, Tottenhams Roll of Honour
League Champions - nil (0 times)
FA Cup Winners - 1981, 1982, 1991 (3 times)
League Cup Winners - 1973, 1999, 2008 (3 times)
UEFA Cup Winners - 1972, 1984 (2 times)

So that's 6 league titles to 0, and 14 to 8 in overall trophies won. So if that's a rot for Arsenal, Spurs must be decomposed by now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 10, 2014, 02:02:50 PM
Speaking of 1989

Came across this yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRmHrVhEegA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRmHrVhEegA)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: deiseach on April 10, 2014, 02:05:17 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 10, 2014, 02:02:50 PM
Speaking of 1989

We weren't.

No. We. Were. Not.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 10, 2014, 02:05:30 PM
I don't even want to click on that!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 10, 2014, 03:48:15 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 10, 2014, 02:02:50 PM
Speaking of 1989

Came across this yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRmHrVhEegA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRmHrVhEegA)

Adams, Bould, O'Leary, Dixon & Winterburn all started & we needed to win by 2.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 10, 2014, 04:44:15 PM
Quote from: muppet on April 10, 2014, 03:48:15 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 10, 2014, 02:02:50 PM
Speaking of 1989

Came across this yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRmHrVhEegA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRmHrVhEegA)

Adams, Bould, O'Leary, Dixon & Winterburn all started & we needed to win by 2.

Arsenal could do with some classic Bouldy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=uYz1Uqs03BY#t=65)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 12, 2014, 06:35:46 PM
Wigan 1-0 Arsenal twenty minutes to go can Wigan hold on or Arsenal save their season?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 12, 2014, 07:00:44 PM
Big goal for Arsenal and they should be good enough to see off a tired Wigan in extra time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on April 12, 2014, 07:07:47 PM
Carzola threatening to leave if Arsenal didn't bring in players - needs to take a good look at himself.

Did he appear for this game at all or head on already?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 12, 2014, 07:49:36 PM
The many trophyless seasons to end this year for Arsenal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 12, 2014, 08:08:50 PM
Back away lads back away the Gooners will prolong this for another 5 weeks your praises for Wenger can wait.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on April 12, 2014, 08:30:07 PM
Crying shame that Wigan missed their first two penalties (what was Rossler thinking about letting Gary Caldwell near a penalty ?) as this took the pressure right off Arsenal.Would have been interesting to see if Arsenal would have crumbled had they both went into the last penalty level
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 12, 2014, 10:12:20 PM
Everton quietly slip in to 4th.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 15, 2014, 09:40:31 PM
Arsenal quietly slip in to 4th.

As usual, can play some nice football when the presure is off.

If they could be hypnotised in big games that it's only a friendly, Arsenal would be world beaters.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: deiseach on April 16, 2014, 02:01:45 PM
*doffs cap at Olivier Giroud (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/16/olivier-giroud-arsenal-west-ham)*
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on April 17, 2014, 06:52:20 AM
Arsenal odds on for 4th now. I imagine there'd be no question of Wenger being sacked if Arsenal were to finish 4th and win the cup final.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 17, 2014, 08:13:15 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on April 17, 2014, 06:52:20 AM
Arsenal odds on for 4th now. I imagine there'd be no question of Wenger being sacked if Arsenal were to finish 4th and win the cup final.

Wenger hasn't signed a new contract, most Gooners respect and expect Wenger to go on his own terms. A 4th place finish would symbolise his management of the migration from Highbury to Ashburton and a FA Cup would be a hat-tip to more successful times.

Both would lay a nice foundation for a new manager to come in, UCL football, a trophy winning squad and probably enough cash for a marquee signing plus a couple of more better than what's already there players.

The timing is right....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on April 17, 2014, 02:33:23 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 17, 2014, 08:13:15 AM

The timing is right....

I suppose it probably is, since that seems to be the general feeling amongst Arsenal fans. The bookies don't seem to have much idea who the next manager will be. Jurgen Klopp , Dragan Stojkovic and Roberto Martinez lead the betting but no one is lower than 10/1.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on April 20, 2014, 04:38:28 PM
Big win for Arsenal today led by Aaron Ramsey. You could argue that the only difference between Arse and Liverpool this year was a few big injuries, most especially the ones to Ramsey and Walcott. It could also be that Arsenal, with Ramsey, Wilshere, Ozil, Walcott and Chamberlain are on the verge of something big and it would be a huge mistake to lose Wenger. Obviously, you need a squad but that involves throwing the same kind of money at it as City and Chelsea.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 20, 2014, 07:24:24 PM
Liverpool have had more than enough injuries, so I don't know about that. Gerrard missed a fair few, Suarez had a self inflicted absence, Sturridge was out for a good few games as well. Add in injuries to Johnson, Enrique, Agger, Lucas and it's not exactly as if they've been praying at Lourdes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 20, 2014, 08:23:43 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 20, 2014, 07:24:24 PM
Liverpool have had more than enough injuries, so I don't know about that. Gerrard missed a fair few, Suarez had a self inflicted absence, Sturridge was out for a good few games as well. Add in injuries to Johnson, Enrique, Agger, Lucas and it's not exactly as if they've been praying at Lourdes.
Missing all your big players for the important games in the last 1/4 of the season is different than random injuries throughout the season  that Liverpool suffered but who pretty much have had a near full selection available for the last 1/4.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: deiseach on April 20, 2014, 08:26:18 PM
If me aunt had balls etc
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: deiseach on April 20, 2014, 08:40:08 PM
On a less flippant note, Liverpool's points tally this season has already exceeded Arsenal's total in each of the last four seasons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arsenal_F.C._seasons#Seasons). What was Arsenal's excuse in those years for not getting up to the level required to have a proper shot at it?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 20, 2014, 08:48:10 PM
Quote from: deiseach on April 20, 2014, 08:40:08 PM
On a less flippant note, Liverpool's points tally this season has already exceeded Arsenal's total in each of the last four seasons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arsenal_F.C._seasons#Seasons). What was Arsenal's excuse in those years for not getting up to the level required to have a proper shot at it?
Less flippant for you, still has you in the kids playground ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 20, 2014, 08:49:56 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 20, 2014, 08:23:43 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 20, 2014, 07:24:24 PM
Liverpool have had more than enough injuries, so I don't know about that. Gerrard missed a fair few, Suarez had a self inflicted absence, Sturridge was out for a good few games as well. Add in injuries to Johnson, Enrique, Agger, Lucas and it's not exactly as if they've been praying at Lourdes.
Missing all your big players for the important games in the last 1/4 of the season is different than random injuries throughout the season  that Liverpool suffered but who pretty much have had a near full selection available for the last 1/4.

Daniel Sturridge missing today. A 20 goal striker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: deiseach on April 20, 2014, 08:57:51 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 20, 2014, 08:48:10 PM
Quote from: deiseach on April 20, 2014, 08:40:08 PM
On a less flippant note, Liverpool's points tally this season has already exceeded Arsenal's total in each of the last four seasons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arsenal_F.C._seasons#Seasons). What was Arsenal's excuse in those years for not getting up to the level required to have a proper shot at it?
Less flippant for you, still has you in the kids playground ;D

???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on April 21, 2014, 06:11:07 AM
Fair enough lads, Liverpool have had their fair share. Hopefully they'll finish the job and they'll be very deserving champions if they do.

I just wanted to make the point about Wenger and how Arsenal, if Ramsey in particular hadn't gotten injured, would probably still be in contention. Arsenal definitely need to strengthen their squad, but getting rid of Wenger(if it could be avoided) might be a huge mistake.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 21, 2014, 10:07:26 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on April 21, 2014, 06:11:07 AM
Fair enough lads, Liverpool have had their fair share. Hopefully they'll finish the job and they'll be very deserving champions if they do.

I just wanted to make the point about Wenger and how Arsenal, if Ramsey in particular hadn't gotten injured, would probably still be in contention. Arsenal definitely need to strengthen their squad, but getting rid of Wenger(if it could be avoided) might be a huge mistake.

The same probably would have been said of Moyes when he left Everton. But Martinez has bred new life and ambition into Everton as well as good football.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2014, 12:51:48 PM
Good to see Ramsey back.

I don't think Ramsey would have prevented the hammerings. Ozil and Wilshere play in that nightmare opening 20 minutes v Liverpool and could do nothing about it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on April 21, 2014, 05:13:15 PM
This site has a lot of stats regarding how much clubs have spent in the Premiership. http://transferleague.co.uk/

It's an old argument but Wenger's Arsenal have been outside the big 5 spenders and have overachieved. The Ozil signing was an aberration and one they were pressured into by the fans. If they replace Wenger, and spend proportionately the same as they did in his time there, I'd be surprised if they continue to be a top four side. Speaking as a Newcastle fan(stuck in endless mid-table oblivion to the point of barely caring anymore), Arsenal fans should be careful what they wish for. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2014, 10:19:14 PM
Arsenal fans are very well aware of the risks.

You can stick with the status quo - continuous top 4 finishes. Champions' League football. Exit last 16. Best players leave. Replace with a lesser light (eg Giroud for Van Persie....Gervinho for Nasri etc). Play nice football against the bottom half but fold embarrassingly against a top side. And repeat. And repeat.

Or, you can thank Arsene for his brilliance but decide to take the club in another direction. It might mean a couple years of being a Spurs but hopefully not.

Arsene's time at Arsenal saw three fine sides. The first one was the inherited defence & Bergkamp coupled with his own buys (Vieira/Petit/Overmars). It coincided with France winning things. Arsenal had some of the best players in the world and that was down to Arsene's nationality and timing. That team was built around Bergkamp/Vieira/Adams and it matched Utd for talent and drive.

Then came the attempt at total football spearheaded by Henry and Pires. That 2003-2006 side should have lifted the big one. They played the best football I'll ever see a side play outside of the recent Barca team. From 05-06 they started creaking and depended on Henry pulling them out in big games. The CL final saw that side break up and he built his third side around Fabregas and Van Persie. I think it was around '08 they came up just short in the league and the CL. Wenger was so close to building his third great successful side. I think they were 1-0 up at Old Trafford and threw it away with a penalty and a free kick. Unfortunately they won nothing year after year, culminating in that horrible defeat to Birmingham. Chelsea and City arrived on the scene with their endless cash. The French talent dried up. Best players were leaving in their prime. Cesc, Nasri, RVP, Flamini...even Hleb.

Arsene has one way of playing football - no matter if they are playing Barcelona or Barnet. For years it worked because they had some of the best players in the world playing his way. He never played to limit another side's strengths. But now that he has a squad full of average to good players they simply cannot just turn up and roll sides over. They think they can and this happens: 8-2 v Utd. 6-3 v City. 5-1 v Liverpool. 6-0 v Chelsea. Playing his way.

It is now 10 years since the Invincibles. Do Arsenal fans wait around to see if that can happen again? Should they remain content with 4th place and a few hammerings? Maybe. Personally I'd like to see a new era ushered in. Whatever it is. Groundhog Day is shit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2014, 10:41:50 PM
http://transferleague.co.uk/data/team/team-53.htm

This says a lot about Wenger's attitude to ruining a sustainable business. There's definitely something admirable about that. I'm sure the owners are delighted.

However, I don't really care that much. I'd rather watch 40m Suarez to free-transfer Chamakh.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 22, 2014, 12:06:20 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 21, 2014, 10:41:50 PM
http://transferleague.co.uk/data/team/team-53.htm

This says a lot about Wenger's attitude to ruining a sustainable business. There's definitely something admirable about that. I'm sure the owners are delighted.

However, I don't really care that much. I'd rather watch 40m Suarez to free-transfer Chamakh.

One of the problems with that profit/loss transfer analysis is that it completely lacks context.

For example, if a club buys 10 good young players and sells 2 at 25 years of age, for a fortune, it is clearly good business financially. But football wise is it good for a club to sell Ronaldo, Bale, Cesc etc before they reach their individual peaks?

Wenger's transfer acumen was beyond admirable when titles followed. But nowadays is it a credible argument for 4th place if you point to the profit on Cesc and RVP?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on April 22, 2014, 01:29:11 AM
Good points O Neill and I can't argue too much with any of that. I'd be delighted if Wenger came to Newcastle though. I'd say Mike Ashley would be a fan of Arsene's ecnomics. It'll be interesting to see how much transfer business Arsenal do under the new manager. The board have always maintained that the money was available for big transfers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syferus on April 22, 2014, 02:42:13 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 21, 2014, 10:07:26 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on April 21, 2014, 06:11:07 AM
Fair enough lads, Liverpool have had their fair share. Hopefully they'll finish the job and they'll be very deserving champions if they do.

I just wanted to make the point about Wenger and how Arsenal, if Ramsey in particular hadn't gotten injured, would probably still be in contention. Arsenal definitely need to strengthen their squad, but getting rid of Wenger(if it could be avoided) might be a huge mistake.

The same probably would have been said of Moyes when he left Everton. But Martinez has bred new life and ambition into Everton as well as good football.

Good football or not Everton are still looking in the window and remain built on the quick-sand of loaned players and players eyeing up transfers to real contenders. They are exactly where Moyes had them for most of his reign.

Wenger isn't just some manager, he remains one of the very best managers in the world and one who has done more with less than any of the teams he's been competing with. The correlation between him and Moyes is small at best.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on April 26, 2014, 02:40:23 PM
Big result for Arsenal today. Strong favorites for 4th now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 26, 2014, 11:24:01 PM
Meh.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2014, 06:50:29 PM
Round and round we go..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 27, 2014, 08:00:17 PM
Win tomorrow night and it's St Totteringham's Day in April for the first time in a few years.

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~mikepitt/tothistory.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: trileacman on April 28, 2014, 01:07:39 AM
That's gas, enjoyed reading that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on April 28, 2014, 12:23:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 21, 2014, 10:41:50 PM
http://transferleague.co.uk/data/team/team-53.htm

This says a lot about Wenger's attitude to ruining a sustainable business. There's definitely something admirable about that. I'm sure the owners are delighted.

However, I don't really care that much. I'd rather watch 40m Suarez to free-transfer Chamakh.
Well the people that have to take responsibility for debts for do care about running up a GBP 1bn debt.
Anyway,  Wenger does share your desire to see Suarez in an Arsenal shirt  for GBP40m,  didn't he try to sign him and didn't Suarez want to come?
The thing is Wenger use to spot those Arsenal type players like Suarez and Sanchez before they became mega expensive, before they left Ajax and Udinese respectively, at a time when they were already the outstanding prospects for the top.
Wenger is without doubt the outstanding coach of the modern era, a 20 year period  since some % of satellite subscriber money found its way to clubs' coffers to the present day. Possibly Arsenal will get someone who can lace Wenger's boots and after some years build a squad with enough depth to seriously challenge for the title, but chances are they won't, they will probably run through a few managerial stints with moderate results.
 
All will become clear soon enough because all the signs are that Wenger is considering to move on, probably next season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 28, 2014, 09:59:16 PM
Happy St Totteringhams Day  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 28, 2014, 10:52:01 PM
19 years. Holy Moly.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on April 29, 2014, 06:18:15 AM
Yes,good to see Arsenal qualify for Champions League where they will reach their absolute pinnacle- elimination at last 16 stage once more. Same old,same old
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on April 29, 2014, 08:53:51 AM
Still better than your same old, same old.  Happy St. Totteringham's Day to you, Tony.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 01, 2014, 01:08:10 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/10784226/Tottenham-tried-to-insert-clause-in-Gareth-Bale-contract-with-Real-Madrid-preventing-Mesut-Ozil-joining-Arsenal.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/10784226/Tottenham-tried-to-insert-clause-in-Gareth-Bale-contract-with-Real-Madrid-preventing-Mesut-Ozil-joining-Arsenal.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Never beat the deeler on May 01, 2014, 05:29:48 AM
Quote from: muppet on May 01, 2014, 01:08:10 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/10784226/Tottenham-tried-to-insert-clause-in-Gareth-Bale-contract-with-Real-Madrid-preventing-Mesut-Ozil-joining-Arsenal.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/10784226/Tottenham-tried-to-insert-clause-in-Gareth-Bale-contract-with-Real-Madrid-preventing-Mesut-Ozil-joining-Arsenal.html)

Misleading headline is misleading
QuoteSpurs did not specifically attempt to stop Ozil from joining Arsenal, although they were aware that it was possible once the Bale deal was agreed, but just wanted to stop him coming to England if he did not join them
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 03, 2014, 07:46:18 PM
Another year another trophy.  8)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: trileacman on May 03, 2014, 08:09:10 PM
Hey Tony? Why so quiet? Thought you'd be celebrating another progressive year at the lane.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 03, 2014, 10:47:43 PM
Surely he'll give a few fringe players a run out now in the last two games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 04, 2014, 11:23:45 PM
...and he didn't. I suppose he had the side picked long before Everton's game.

I'd imagine the final game will have an eye on the cup final. Diaby back in the squad too - Wenger has shown some loyalty to the man.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on May 05, 2014, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: trileacman on May 03, 2014, 08:09:10 PM
Hey Tony? Why so quiet? Thought you'd be celebrating another progressive year at the lane.

He's to busy slagging off Liverpool fans on their sh1te season!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 07, 2014, 07:17:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP7k1QkkhZk&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP7k1QkkhZk&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 07, 2014, 07:52:23 PM
V good!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 08, 2014, 10:06:07 AM
Talk of Sagna off to Citeh!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: sensethetone on May 08, 2014, 10:28:56 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 08, 2014, 10:06:07 AM
Talk of Sagna off to Citeh!

i'd let him go on, if only to freshen things up arteta too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on May 08, 2014, 04:34:05 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 07, 2014, 07:17:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP7k1QkkhZk&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP7k1QkkhZk&feature=youtu.be)

;D That's excellent muppet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 11, 2014, 10:43:29 PM
yeeeeeaaaa. 4th. yeeeaaaaaaa. 4th.

Some say only for that injury to Ramsey but....could he have prevented the hammerings?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 12, 2014, 11:38:58 AM
So who do the Arsenal need to make a challenge next year?

Most likely a RB, CB, DM and ST needed however thats very un-Wenger like!

Possibilities:

RB - Sebastian Jung, Nathaniel Clyne, Fabien Schar

CB - Ginter (Dortmund bound?), Chambers, Lascelles

DM - Martinez, Bender, Schneiderlin

ST - Costa, Benzema, Draxler, Greizmann, Drmic

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on May 12, 2014, 11:45:08 AM
Lars Bender announced he was staying at Leverkusen last week, could probaly tick him off the the list. Martinez could be a possibility.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 12, 2014, 11:47:16 AM
Rumours Martinez not happy at Bayern but I can see Pep playing him as a centre back next year as Dante and Boateng cant pass.  If the money is good you could see Leverkusen sell but they made the CL next year ensuring they dont really need the money. Schneiderlin more Wengers price range.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on May 12, 2014, 12:36:07 PM
QuoteSchneiderlin more Wengers price range.

And he's French.  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Shrewdness on May 15, 2014, 09:35:55 PM
Several sources reporting that Arsenal have made a big bid tonight for Cesc Fabregas. If it's true, it's a deal that could well happen.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 15, 2014, 11:22:15 PM
Spent this week watching every big defeat in recent years. Birmingham. Barcelona. Liverpool '01. Valencia 1980.

Great stuff.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 17, 2014, 01:04:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiAD38djorY
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 17, 2014, 08:19:12 AM
She wore a yellow ribbon....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 17, 2014, 08:23:07 AM
Valencia 1980 is classed as a "defeat in recent years?" Mirthful as this was to all Spurs fans it is not as recent or as pleasing as Nayim from the halfway line.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 17, 2014, 05:08:46 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 17, 2014, 05:14:17 PM
 ;D All we need now is Huddlestone from the halfway line! ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 17, 2014, 05:17:13 PM
The come back is on. Great strike.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on May 17, 2014, 05:39:32 PM
Despite being really flat Arsenal are well in this match!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 17, 2014, 05:50:01 PM
The next goal will be very important in this cup final.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 17, 2014, 06:00:39 PM
Shower of yella fcukers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 17, 2014, 06:30:22 PM
Level and Arsenal should be good enough to go on to win the final now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 17, 2014, 06:54:13 PM
Brilliant performance taking Paul Mc Shane and Co to extra time
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Shrewdness on May 17, 2014, 07:05:31 PM
Hull's legs are gone. Hope i'm wrong, but i think Arsenal will win it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on May 17, 2014, 07:07:57 PM
Is Gortnahoe's finest injured or Cup Tied?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 17, 2014, 07:12:05 PM
Can't shake this f**king monkey off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on May 17, 2014, 07:16:58 PM
Steve Bruce has been eating his burgers!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on May 17, 2014, 07:30:02 PM
Five minutes to go and they are engraving arsenal on the  cup. Talk about disrespect?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 17, 2014, 07:33:33 PM
The trophy famine over for Arsenal. Would have to feel sorry for Hull a big effort from the little underdog.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: All of a Sludden on May 17, 2014, 07:33:58 PM
Well deserved victory. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on May 17, 2014, 07:51:09 PM
Exactly. It's 30 minutes since Arsenal last won a trophy.

Wenger OUT.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BennyCake on May 17, 2014, 07:52:41 PM
I get the impression that was Wenger's last game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 17, 2014, 08:03:02 PM
They couldn't make it easy!! Sanogo big useless lump but he made the difference today.

Two trophies in one season.

http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/ (http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/)

:D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on May 17, 2014, 08:05:54 PM
No right minded individual would begrudge Wenger that win
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on May 17, 2014, 08:09:53 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 17, 2014, 08:03:02 PM
They couldn't make it easy!! Sanogo big useless lump but he made the difference today.

Two trophies in one season.

http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/ (http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/)

:D
Next chance is Community Shield.
David Moyes won it last year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 17, 2014, 08:10:05 PM
Well done arsenal. Happy for wenger. I admire his stubborn belief in his core principles. Congrats Dinny, O'Neill, muppet and the other long suffering arsenal fans on here.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: All of a Sludden on May 17, 2014, 08:12:09 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 17, 2014, 08:05:54 PM
No right minded individual would begrudge Wenger that win

Do you have anyone in particular in mind?  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 17, 2014, 08:12:43 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 17, 2014, 08:10:05 PM
Well done arsenal. Happy for wenger. I admire his stubborn belief in his core principles. Congrats Dinny, O'Neill, muppet and the other long suffering arsenal fans on here.

Cheers AZ. The anti-Fearon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on May 17, 2014, 08:14:03 PM
Well done Arsenal.

Sanogo though......jeez......the worst player in the lady 10 years at Arsenal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 17, 2014, 08:17:04 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 17, 2014, 08:10:05 PM
Well done arsenal. Happy for wenger. I admire his stubborn belief in his core principles. Congrats Dinny, O'Neill, muppet and the other long suffering arsenal fans on here.

2014 could be a good year.

Arsene Wenger and Gavin Duffy finally get their hands on trophies?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on May 17, 2014, 08:17:44 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 17, 2014, 08:05:54 PM
No right minded individual would begrudge Wenger that win
True. Fair play to him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 17, 2014, 08:27:57 PM
That feels good. Bit like the '89 league. What needs to be done can wait til tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on May 17, 2014, 09:01:51 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 17, 2014, 08:27:57 PM
That feels good. Bit like the '89 league. What needs to be done can wait til tomorrow.

Completely agree. It could be the start of something great.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on May 17, 2014, 09:10:02 PM
I was a bit disappointed that Artetta didn't get to lift the cup. I know Vermalen is club captain, but if you wear the captains armband on the day you should be the one to lift the trophy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 17, 2014, 09:11:39 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on May 17, 2014, 09:10:02 PM
I was a bit disappointed that Artetta didn't get to lift the cup. I know Vermalen is club captain, but if you wear the captains armband on the day you should be the one to lift the trophy.

Wenger probably nominated the one he thought would least likely to be injured by lifting it, or most dispensable.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on May 17, 2014, 09:15:52 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 17, 2014, 09:11:39 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on May 17, 2014, 09:10:02 PM
I was a bit disappointed that Artetta didn't get to lift the cup. I know Vermalen is club captain, but if you wear the captains armband on the day you should be the one to lift the trophy.

Wenger probably nominated the one he thought would least likely to be injured by lifting it, or most dispensable.

Where was Nicholas Bendtner when you need him
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on May 17, 2014, 09:17:33 PM
Delighted for wenger




Ok and Dinny too ....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 17, 2014, 09:38:11 PM
Are you seriously saying the goons fans who pay top dollar to be put to sleep at the Emirates every fortnight will be convinced of the future under Wenger after needing extra time to beat Hull reserves?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 17, 2014, 09:40:42 PM
Is there a word for when someone's schadenfreude is immediately reversed?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on May 17, 2014, 09:43:47 PM
Quote from: muppet on May 17, 2014, 09:40:42 PM
Is there a word for when someone's schadenfreude is immediately reversed?

Yes.  Immedenfreude.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on May 17, 2014, 09:51:26 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 17, 2014, 08:10:05 PM
Well done arsenal. Happy for wenger. I admire his stubborn belief in his core principles. Congrats Dinny, O'Neill, muppet and the other long suffering arsenal fans on here.

+1

9 years is a long time and there have been some great teams and near misses in between.

Well done.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 17, 2014, 10:22:15 PM
Quote from: All of a Sludden on May 17, 2014, 08:12:09 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 17, 2014, 08:05:54 PM
No right minded individual would begrudge Wenger that win

Do you have anyone in particular in mind?  ;D
;D I see he has arrived...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tiempo on May 17, 2014, 10:35:42 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 17, 2014, 09:51:26 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 17, 2014, 08:10:05 PM
Well done arsenal. Happy for wenger. I admire his stubborn belief in his core principles. Congrats Dinny, O'Neill, muppet and the other long suffering arsenal fans on here.

+1

9 years is a long time and there have been some great teams and near misses in between.

Well done.

As an Arsenal supporter I can say I am embarrassed by how they won the cup today, and the last 9 years. I know some will say its all about  the result and all that, and I'm not an aesthete but Giroud and Sanogo are utter toilet and I resent the fact that they are professional footballers. I would've actually laughed my head off if Hull had scored that riduclous third goal today where Mertesaker took the tumlbe etc.

There is an article in the Irish Post about how Arsenal no longer have any Irish lads in their ranks, in Wengers time he has been too biased to French players and it disgusts me, the man is genius and stubborn pillock in equal measure.

Clubs like Athletico Madrid and Dortmund have gone from bankrupt to CL final in the last 9 years while Wenger can't see the economic sense of giving RVP the bumper contract he earned.

Fingers crossed someone has a word and they get their act together for next year as they have the basis of a Championship and CL winning team there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 17, 2014, 10:57:52 PM
Haha!

Don't be embarrassed...look at what happened City last year...Cup Finals can be mad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 18, 2014, 12:20:00 AM
What happened City last year was an example of a manager who had clearly lost the dressing room.

Any right thinking Arsenal fan should be embrrassed by today
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 18, 2014, 07:58:56 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 18, 2014, 12:20:00 AM
What happened City last year was an example of a manager who had clearly lost the dressing room.

Any right thinking Arsenal fan should be embrrassed by today

Hmm how would one feel if the club they supported have gone 53 years since winning only their second League title or 24 years since their last F.A Cup win.

(http://angryofislington.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/spurs-quotes.png)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: deiseach on May 18, 2014, 09:02:27 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 17, 2014, 08:10:05 PM
Well done arsenal. Happy for wenger. I admire his stubborn belief in his core principles. Congrats Dinny, O'Neill, muppet and the other long suffering arsenal fans on here.

+1. I was mildly surprised at the venom that was spewed at Liverpool from Arsenal fans online when it looked like Liverpool might win the league. Given the teams Liverpool were lined up against, it seemed . . . disproportionate. But you didn't see any of that on here. The Gunners here are all right (my highest compliment). Hope they enjoyed the win.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Shrewdness on May 18, 2014, 01:42:09 PM
Arsenal fans would be well advised not to read too much into winning the FA Cup..Yes, it does bring to an end a barren 9 year period. But it doesn't herald the beginning of a new revolution. Before that is even remotely possible, Arsenal need to look into the reasons for their poor performances against the top teams in their head to head clashes this season.. Congrats to them on winning the FA Cup, but that's all it was. The same FA Cup won last year by Wigan Athletic, and won only a few seasons ago by Portsmouth.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 18, 2014, 01:55:53 PM
Quote from: Shrewdness on May 18, 2014, 01:42:09 PM
Arsenal fans would be well advised not to read too much into winning the FA Cup..Yes, it does bring to an end a barren 9 year period. But it doesn't herald the beginning of a new revolution. Before that is even remotely possible, Arsenal need to look into the reasons for their poor performances against the top teams in their head to head clashes this season.. Congrats to them on winning the FA Cup, but that's all it was. The same FA Cup won last year by Wigan Athletic, and won only a few seasons ago by Portsmouth.

Where would we be without Rossies telling us what to think?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on May 18, 2014, 02:25:34 PM
Quote from: Shrewdness on May 18, 2014, 01:42:09 PM
Arsenal fans would be well advised not to read too much into winning the FA Cup..Yes, it does bring to an end a barren 9 year period. But it doesn't herald the beginning of a new revolution. Before that is even remotely possible, Arsenal need to look into the reasons for their poor performances against the top teams in their head to head clashes this season.. Congrats to them on winning the FA Cup, but that's all it was. The same FA Cup won last year by Wigan Athletic, and won only a few seasons ago by Portsmouth.

Are you trying to say Arsenal will be relegated in the near future?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: trileacman on May 18, 2014, 03:43:35 PM
It ends the pointless jibe of it's been 8 years without a title but the problems at Arsenal still remain. It's not that they are a team in decline or decay it's just the stagnation at the club that seems too hurt. It's surprising really but seeming to take 2 steps forward and 2 steps back is preferable to simply staying still without solving any of the old problems or presenting any new ones.

Congrats really though, you've got to enjoy any victory you get because as many of us know they can often be few and far between!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Shrewdness on May 18, 2014, 05:40:34 PM
Ziggy90, Arsenal have a team laden with top quality players. Someone above said that yesterday's win could be a launchpad to winning the CL. My point was that winning an FA cup guarantees no such thing. Not convinced by Arsenal's defence for latter stages of CL.......Muppet, what the hell has being from Roscommon got to do with what i said.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on May 19, 2014, 09:03:54 AM
Well done Gooners, may it not be as long again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 19, 2014, 07:09:41 PM
Quote from: Shrewdness on May 18, 2014, 01:42:09 PM
Arsenal fans would be well advised not to read too much into winning the FA Cup..Yes, it does bring to an end a barren 9 year period. But it doesn't herald the beginning of a new revolution. Before that is even remotely possible, Arsenal need to look into the reasons for their poor performances against the top teams in their head to head clashes this season.. Congrats to them on winning the FA Cup, but that's all it was. The same FA Cup won last year by Wigan Athletic, and won only a few seasons ago by Portsmouth.

Phew, thank the Lord for that advice. I was thinking of world domination after Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on May 26, 2014, 12:13:05 PM
25 years ago today  :-[

Where are they now ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/10856208/Arsenals-1988-89-league-champions-where-are-they-now.html



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 26, 2014, 12:13:31 PM
Puke.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on May 27, 2014, 10:51:20 PM
Omagh man behind 'When Arsenal last won a trophy' web sensation  (http://ulsterherald.com/2014/05/27/omagh-man-behind-when-arsenal-last-won-a-trophy-web-sensation/)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on May 27, 2014, 11:11:15 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 26, 2014, 12:13:05 PM
25 years ago today  :-[

Where are they now ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/10856208/Arsenals-1988-89-league-champions-where-are-they-now.html
It never happened we all just dreamt it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on June 02, 2014, 09:29:43 PM
I am disappointed but not all that surprised Wenger has shown no interest in Cesc.

2 or even 3 out of Arteta/Diaby/Flamini could all be let go with the arrival of Cesc. I know he normally plays further forward but like Roy Keane under Fergie, he could be told to sit and hold behind Ozil and co. Arsenal have a relatively good buyback option as well so really should be going all out. They could always sell him on again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 03, 2014, 10:49:25 PM
I don't really understand why Barca would let him leave.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on June 03, 2014, 10:56:55 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 03, 2014, 10:49:25 PM
I don't really understand why Barca would let him leave.

They must have good reason, looks like he is going to Chelsea who offered him a better deal than Man Utd
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on June 03, 2014, 11:00:43 PM
I think the Arsenal buy back clause becomes active if he asks to go back to Arsenal:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/cazorla-pleads-with-unsettled-fabregas-to-return-to-arsenal-30326484.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/cazorla-pleads-with-unsettled-fabregas-to-return-to-arsenal-30326484.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 12, 2014, 04:51:22 PM
It really is a soulless game...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Bingo on June 12, 2014, 04:59:04 PM
He has been quoted as saying he was offered to Arsenal but they refused to exercise their option
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 12, 2014, 11:59:17 PM
As with VP, no problem with it. He gave Arsenal plenty on less money.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on June 13, 2014, 12:26:25 AM
Arsenal used to be a big club,now they can't even attract former players returning to London with their tails between their legs after failing elsewhere
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on June 13, 2014, 01:56:25 PM
Sagna joining City http://t.co/LnxfGgfvZs
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 13, 2014, 02:00:16 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 13, 2014, 01:56:25 PM
Sagna joining City http://t.co/LnxfGgfvZs

He was never worth 140k a week! Never showed Arsenal much loyalty after they stood by him with 2 broken legs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 13, 2014, 03:05:42 PM
I have no problem with the likes of Clichy, Sagna or even Cesc and would always wish them well. The likes of Nasri and RVP can fock right off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 13, 2014, 03:29:26 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on June 13, 2014, 02:00:16 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 13, 2014, 01:56:25 PM
Sagna joining City http://t.co/LnxfGgfvZs

He was never worth 140k a week! Never showed Arsenal much loyalty after they stood by him with 2 broken legs.

Very little loyalty in sport now..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on June 13, 2014, 04:29:29 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on June 13, 2014, 12:26:25 AM
Arsenal used to be a big club,now they can't even attract former players returning to London with their tails between their legs after failing elsewhere

You love seeing players Bale out?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 13, 2014, 10:32:25 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 13, 2014, 03:05:42 PM
I have no problem with the likes of Clichy, Sagna or even Cesc and would always wish them well. The likes of Nasri and RVP can fock right off.

Why? RVP was at the club for yonks and saw good players leave whilst he hurtled towards 30 with fcuk all to show for it. Nasri saw the writing on the wall long before that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 15, 2014, 10:33:38 AM
Quote from: ONeill on June 13, 2014, 10:32:25 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 13, 2014, 03:05:42 PM
I have no problem with the likes of Clichy, Sagna or even Cesc and would always wish them well. The likes of Nasri and RVP can fock right off.

Why? RVP was at the club for yonks and saw good players leave whilst he hurtled towards 30 with fcuk all to show for it. Nasri saw the writing on the wall long before that.

Not going to revisit this but big difference in motivations and how transfers were handled. RVP and Nasri in particular are wankers of the highest order.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 15, 2014, 01:56:46 PM
Where will Campbell fit in?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 15, 2014, 05:28:20 PM
Can play up front or out wide. Seems to have a big game temperament. Plus he has to be better than Sanogo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on June 16, 2014, 08:51:49 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 15, 2014, 05:28:20 PM
Can play up front or out wide. Seems to have a big game temperament. Plus he has to be better than Sanogo.

Can he speak French?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 19, 2014, 10:11:35 AM
Big talk of Ballotelli to the Gooners.

Good signing or potential timebomb?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 19, 2014, 10:20:36 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on June 19, 2014, 10:11:35 AM
Big talk of Ballotelli to the Gooners.

Good signing or potential timebomb?

A little from column A, a little from column B. Luis Suarez is a potential timebomb.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 19, 2014, 10:38:30 AM
Yeah you would think he has to mature at sometime.

Read also that Puma are pushing hard to get him to the Emirates and would be willing to pay part of the fee .

Arsenal signed a deal with Puma from this season onwards and Mario wears the brand.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on June 19, 2014, 11:10:11 AM
Are ye lads just glossing over this:

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-paper-round-arsenal-eye-cleverley-041030393--sow.html

???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 09, 2014, 09:44:22 AM
Sanchez deal to be confirmed today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BartSimpson on July 09, 2014, 11:22:44 PM
My weeun is a gunner, and he says the deal for 2 players will be launched tomorrow with a new jersey deal. He knows his stuff, this wee lad
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 10, 2014, 07:53:04 PM
Sanchez is officially an Arsenal player. Great signing for the Arsenal...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsNDU7rIAAI1Y6B.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: foxcommander on July 10, 2014, 07:58:37 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 15, 2014, 05:28:20 PM
Can play up front or out wide. Seems to have a big game temperament. Plus he has to be better than Sanogo.

Martin Hayes was better than Sangogo
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 10, 2014, 08:13:14 PM
Nice enough.

Remember Graham signed Jensen after the '92 Euros. He was a cracking player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 10, 2014, 08:22:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 10, 2014, 08:13:14 PM
Nice enough.

Remember Graham signed Jensen after the '92 Euros. He was a cracking player.

Loved that man, fantastic goal scoring record (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5WQ8phrh7A)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: EC Unique on July 10, 2014, 08:25:23 PM
Great signing for Arsenal alright.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 10, 2014, 08:29:03 PM
If i was an Arsenal fan i'd be excited,he will run amuck in the Premiership i think.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on July 10, 2014, 08:44:27 PM
Fantastic signing for Arsenal and good to see a player like him in the PL. Apparently Arsenal had been in talks with him in May before the WC, so he was always likely to go there
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on July 10, 2014, 09:31:45 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsNZ24yIcAAITVa.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 10, 2014, 09:34:11 PM
Wenger is getting aggressive. I like it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 10, 2014, 09:42:10 PM
Still need to address the capitulations. Plenty of time though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BartSimpson on July 10, 2014, 11:23:10 PM
number 17 for the new'un. Supposed to be a great player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on July 14, 2014, 08:22:35 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/10963024/Sami-Khedira-a-top-Arsenal-target-following-signing-of-Alexis-Sanchez.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/10963024/Sami-Khedira-a-top-Arsenal-target-following-signing-of-Alexis-Sanchez.html)

Arsène Wenger is preparing to follow up the signing of Alexis Sanchez with a new holding midfielder and has made enquiries over this past week on Germany internationals Sami Khedira and Lars Bender.
Arsenal are also now finalising deals for two new right-backs, with Mathieu Debuchy's £10 million move from Newcastle due to be confirmed in the next 48 hours and Atletico Madrid's Javi Manquillo also ready to arrive, probably on loan.
It is the possible addition of Khedira or Bender, however, that will most excite Arsenal fans and serve as further evidence, following the acquisitions of Sanchez and Mesut Ozil over the past year, that Wenger is again able to compete for the world's best players.


Wenger reminds me of Bank of Ireland and AIB. They sneered at Anglo until around 2005 and then they joined in the boom and tried to outdo them. That worked well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 14, 2014, 08:33:54 PM
But this isn't dirty money. This won't land the club in debt.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on July 14, 2014, 09:03:24 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 14, 2014, 08:33:54 PM
But this isn't dirty money. This won't land the club in debt.

Cool, Arsenal has a mountain of unencumbered money!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on July 27, 2014, 10:55:38 PM
Ospina confirmed. Chambers to be announced tomorrow.

Excellent business so far but think the Gooners need a DM and CB if a serious challenge is to be mounted.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on July 28, 2014, 02:23:45 PM
Where is the stream of Liverpool supporters wagging their fingers about spending so much money on a young Southampton fullback?????
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on July 28, 2014, 02:28:11 PM
Just surprised there's any Southampton players left now that we've bought them all.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 28, 2014, 02:59:59 PM
Official Gooners Thread

Take your Liverpool and Man United shite talk elsewhere  >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on July 28, 2014, 04:07:51 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 28, 2014, 02:59:59 PM
Official Gooners Thread

Take your Liverpool and Man United shite talk elsewhere  >:(

Ooh! That told us!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 05, 2014, 12:59:33 PM
Carvalho?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 05, 2014, 05:46:22 PM
What about 4-goal Sanogo though?? Some crack that. 4 tap ins. Fox in the box.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 05, 2014, 06:35:21 PM
All right for plan c or d. Giroud Sanchez Walcott all ahead of him for me plus Campbell. Sanogo needs to develop more. Still very raw. Would still love a genuine pacey out and out striker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 06, 2014, 09:30:52 PM
Potential CL opponents:

Athletic Bilbao
Lille
Standard Liege
Besikas
Copenhagen.

Don't want the Basques.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 09, 2014, 02:20:30 PM
Liam Brady on his time as Arsenal academy director http://t.co/xe4FhEwpoU
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 10, 2014, 08:19:25 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 09, 2014, 02:20:30 PM
Liam Brady on his time as Arsenal academy director http://t.co/xe4FhEwpoU

Good read, feels like Brady was actually holding Arsenal's academy back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 10, 2014, 04:25:00 PM
Two months since Wenger won a trophy, at least.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 10, 2014, 06:44:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2014, 04:25:00 PM
Two months since Wenger won a trophy, at least.

If only there was a website out there to tell us that...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 11, 2014, 12:06:38 AM
Besiktas will be hard enough.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 11, 2014, 12:31:29 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 10, 2014, 06:44:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2014, 04:25:00 PM
Two months since Wenger won a trophy, at least.

If only there was a website out there to tell us that...

That would be helpful.

Can't find one.

Tony?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 11, 2014, 09:46:19 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 11, 2014, 12:31:29 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 10, 2014, 06:44:25 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 10, 2014, 04:25:00 PM
Two months since Wenger won a trophy, at least.

If only there was a website out there to tell us that...

That would be helpful.

Can't find one.

Tony?

You didn't look to hard . . .

http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 11, 2014, 11:03:14 PM
I have a soft spot for Arsenal and hope they do well but Im totally bemused by Wengers buys this year.

They absolutely positively needed a mature, ready to go centre half, right back, defensive midfielder and proven goal scorer.

They got two right backs and another winger.

AS is NOT the player Arsenal needed to spend big on. He did little for Barca and does not tend to score big numbers.

If they go into this season with Giroud as the only senior striker and Arteta as the DM they will be lucky to get 4th.

There's still time and hopefully the cash keeps being spent but it all seems a bit odd so far. Was AS the only 'big' name that would really come to Arsenal?

Martinez or Cavani, Carvalho and Agger would be a start....Reus would be icing on cake
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CorkMan on August 11, 2014, 11:22:12 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 11, 2014, 11:03:14 PM
I have a soft spot for Arsenal and hope they do well but Im totally bemused by Wengers buys this year.

They absolutely positively needed a mature, ready to go centre half, right back, defensive midfielder and proven goal scorer.

They got two right backs and another winger.

AS is NOT the player Arsenal needed to spend big on. He did little for Barca and does not tend to score big numbers.

If they go into this season with Giroud as the only senior striker and Arteta as the DM they will be lucky to get 4th.

There's still time and hopefully the cash keeps being spent but it all seems a bit odd so far. Was AS the only 'big' name that would really come to Arsenal?

Martinez or Cavani, Carvalho and Agger would be a start....Reus would be icing on cake

Sanchez got 19 goals from the eing last season, not bad for a player who doesn't score in huge numbers. You're right, though, they could definitely do with a DM and CB.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 12, 2014, 06:17:06 AM
Quote from: CorkMan on August 11, 2014, 11:22:12 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 11, 2014, 11:03:14 PM
I have a soft spot for Arsenal and hope they do well but Im totally bemused by Wengers buys this year.

They absolutely positively needed a mature, ready to go centre half, right back, defensive midfielder and proven goal scorer.

They got two right backs and another winger.

AS is NOT the player Arsenal needed to spend big on. He did little for Barca and does not tend to score big numbers.

If they go into this season with Giroud as the only senior striker and Arteta as the DM they will be lucky to get 4th.

There's still time and hopefully the cash keeps being spent but it all seems a bit odd so far. Was AS the only 'big' name that would really come to Arsenal?

Martinez or Cavani, Carvalho and Agger would be a start....Reus would be icing on cake

Sanchez got 19 goals from the eing last season, not bad for a player who doesn't score in huge numbers. You're right, though, they could definitely do with a DM and CB.

A big improvement on 8 the previous year alright. 13/14 season was a complete one off in terms of goal scoring for him. His record every other year has been modest.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tiempo on August 12, 2014, 09:57:44 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 12, 2014, 06:17:06 AM
Quote from: CorkMan on August 11, 2014, 11:22:12 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 11, 2014, 11:03:14 PM
I have a soft spot for Arsenal and hope they do well but Im totally bemused by Wengers buys this year.

They absolutely positively needed a mature, ready to go centre half, right back, defensive midfielder and proven goal scorer.

They got two right backs and another winger.

AS is NOT the player Arsenal needed to spend big on. He did little for Barca and does not tend to score big numbers.

If they go into this season with Giroud as the only senior striker and Arteta as the DM they will be lucky to get 4th.

There's still time and hopefully the cash keeps being spent but it all seems a bit odd so far. Was AS the only 'big' name that would really come to Arsenal?

Martinez or Cavani, Carvalho and Agger would be a start....Reus would be icing on cake

Sanchez got 19 goals from the eing last season, not bad for a player who doesn't score in huge numbers. You're right, though, they could definitely do with a DM and CB.

A big improvement on 8 the previous year alright. 13/14 season was a complete one off in terms of goal scoring for him. His record every other year has been modest.

Sanchez has the attributes and ability to make hay in the PL and if he gets off to a good start on the faster pitches of this time of year he could and should be getting 20+ goals.

With Arteta officially named as captain I can't see Wenger making the investment in a specialist marquee holding midfielder, having just gone two seasons with his captain on the bench he'll not want someone who cruises into Arteta's position therefore demoting him to the bench also.

That £15m from Vermaelen should be spent on Ashley Williams of Swansea.

The biggest embarrassment of the lot though is Sanogo'o. If that guy was 6'5" white, English and called John Williams he'd be nowhere near the club nevermind first team, Wengers hardon for French players could come back to bite him in the ass again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on August 12, 2014, 10:01:40 AM
Quote from: tiempo on August 12, 2014, 09:57:44 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 12, 2014, 06:17:06 AM
Quote from: CorkMan on August 11, 2014, 11:22:12 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 11, 2014, 11:03:14 PM
I have a soft spot for Arsenal and hope they do well but Im totally bemused by Wengers buys this year.

They absolutely positively needed a mature, ready to go centre half, right back, defensive midfielder and proven goal scorer.

They got two right backs and another winger.

AS is NOT the player Arsenal needed to spend big on. He did little for Barca and does not tend to score big numbers.

If they go into this season with Giroud as the only senior striker and Arteta as the DM they will be lucky to get 4th.

There's still time and hopefully the cash keeps being spent but it all seems a bit odd so far. Was AS the only 'big' name that would really come to Arsenal?

Martinez or Cavani, Carvalho and Agger would be a start....Reus would be icing on cake

Sanchez got 19 goals from the eing last season, not bad for a player who doesn't score in huge numbers. You're right, though, they could definitely do with a DM and CB.

A big improvement on 8 the previous year alright. 13/14 season was a complete one off in terms of goal scoring for him. His record every other year has been modest.

Sanchez has the attributes and ability to make hay in the PL and if he gets off to a good start on the faster pitches of this time of year he could and should be getting 20+ goals.

With Arteta officially named as captain I can't see Wenger making the investment in a specialist marquee holding midfielder, having just gone two seasons with his captain on the bench he'll not want someone who cruises into Arteta's position therefore demoting him to the bench also.

That £15m from Vermaelen should be spent on Ashley Williams of Swansea.

The biggest embarrassment of the lot though is Sanogo'o. If that guy was 6'5" white, English and called John Williams he'd be nowhere near the club nevermind first team, Wengers hardon for French players could come back to bite him in the ass again.

If he was 6ff 5" and English he would probably have a price tag of about £30m and Spurs or West Ham would buy him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 12, 2014, 12:17:07 PM
Breaking News:

@Shrewdness 5m
The cuzs tell me Liverpool have offered to buy Arsenal's John Williams. £35m mentioned. Arsenal FC has not responded yet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 12, 2014, 04:29:44 PM
I don't think goals are going to be a problem at all. There are 5 players in the squad capable of double figures this year.

It's the numbers in defence that's a problem. Very light there.

Said before, it's tactics and not really the personnel that must be addressed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 12, 2014, 08:46:30 PM
Arteta is a clean liability. Can't fathom why Wenger has such faith in him. Slows the game down at the wrong times, goes sideways at every opportunity, can't tackle and has no presence.  Pure muck.

I'm assuming Diaby won't make more than 5 appearances.

If only 1 other player arrives it's gotta be a DM.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 12, 2014, 09:28:41 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 12, 2014, 06:17:06 AM
Quote from: CorkMan on August 11, 2014, 11:22:12 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 11, 2014, 11:03:14 PM
I have a soft spot for Arsenal and hope they do well but Im totally bemused by Wengers buys this year.

They absolutely positively needed a mature, ready to go centre half, right back, defensive midfielder and proven goal scorer.

They got two right backs and another winger.

AS is NOT the player Arsenal needed to spend big on. He did little for Barca and does not tend to score big numbers.

If they go into this season with Giroud as the only senior striker and Arteta as the DM they will be lucky to get 4th.

There's still time and hopefully the cash keeps being spent but it all seems a bit odd so far. Was AS the only 'big' name that would really come to Arsenal?

Martinez or Cavani, Carvalho and Agger would be a start....Reus would be icing on cake

Sanchez got 19 goals from the eing last season, not bad for a player who doesn't score in huge numbers. You're right, though, they could definitely do with a DM and CB.

A big improvement on 8 the previous year alright. 13/14 season was a complete one off in terms of goal scoring for him. His record every other year has been modest.

He has played mainly on the wing thats why his record is modest, with Barca to accomdedate Messi, when he first went to Seria  A he was a winger too ... When he plays down the centre like he did for Chile against England last November he is lethal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 12, 2014, 09:29:05 PM
Flamini is still only 30.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BartSimpson on August 15, 2014, 12:28:15 AM
Tony Puliz gone from crystal palace, good news for you lads and the 1st game!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2014, 09:47:16 AM
Aye but Drogba's back.

So...same again? = great start, flying in all competitions, injuries to key players November, lose title lead in Jan...poor Feb and March to exit all comps...strong finish to earn a CL spot?

Or will this year be different?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 15, 2014, 09:51:04 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 15, 2014, 09:47:16 AM
Aye but Drogba's back.

So...same again? = great start, flying in all competitions, injuries to key players November, lose title lead in Jan...poor Feb and March to exit all comps...strong finish to earn a CL spot?

Or will this year be different?

O'Neill,  have faith,  this is going to be your year,  I can feel it in me bones...don't doubt that they will stick the pace...2 trophie sin the space of a few months,  sure there's only one way now...up!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2014, 11:16:52 AM
Yea, but can Arsene go to Anfield or Stamford and say to his players 'right lads, let's just get men behind the ball and pick them off on the break.'

or 'gars à droite, nous allons simplement obtenir hommes derrière le ballon et Cueillez-les hors tension lors du bris'

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on August 15, 2014, 11:22:52 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 15, 2014, 11:16:52 AM
Yea, but can Arsene go to Anfield or Stamford and say to his players 'right lads, let's just get men behind the ball and pick them off on the break.'

or 'gars à droite, nous allons simplement obtenir hommes derrière le ballon et Cueillez-les hors tension lors du bris'

More likely to be

Recht Jungs, lasst uns einfach zu bekommen Männer hinter den Ball und holen sie ab auf die Pause.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: deiseach on August 15, 2014, 11:32:38 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 15, 2014, 11:16:52 AM
Yea, but can Arsene go to Anfield or Stamford and say to his players 'uhh right lads, uhh let's just get men behind the ball and uhh pick them off on the break.'

or 'uhh gars à droite, uhh nous allons simplement obtenir hommes derrière le ballon et uhh Cueillez-les hors tension lors du bris'

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2014, 01:00:05 PM
Did Arsene just say no more will be brought in?

Gulp, if that's true....an injury to 1-2 centre backs and they're fecked.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 15, 2014, 01:01:25 PM
He hasn't ruled out more signings. Do you not read Arseblog man ;)

He'll likely bid for Reus when he needs a CB and DM.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2014, 01:04:27 PM
He'll probably get a couple of loans - Silvestre looks tasty.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 16, 2014, 06:07:08 PM
If Wenger has eyes and can see Sanogo....he's gotta get another striker.

Still no cutting edge up front.

Alexis very very poor today. Carzola as well. This game us crying out for a Diaby type player to stride through the middle. Once the tippy tappy misfires there is no plan b.

A real get out of jail from the Ram. That lad is prob the most important player in Arsenals team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on August 16, 2014, 07:27:11 PM
And so it begins. The quest for the Premiership starts with an uncomfortable victory.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 16, 2014, 07:29:07 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on August 16, 2014, 07:27:11 PM
And so it begins. The quest for the Premiership starts with an uncomfortable victory.

Lost 1-3 at home to Villa this game last year, so we already 3 points ahead!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2014, 07:29:57 PM
Yahoooo. No better winner than an injury time winner.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Armamike on August 16, 2014, 09:24:58 PM
Some lovely haircuts in that Arsenal team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 16, 2014, 09:28:41 PM
That worries me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Armamike on August 16, 2014, 10:03:17 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 16, 2014, 09:28:41 PM
That worries me.

Just saying.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 17, 2014, 11:04:06 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 16, 2014, 06:07:08 PM
If Wenger has eyes and can see Sanogo....he's gotta get another striker.

Still no cutting edge up front.

Alexis very very poor today. Carzola as well. This game us crying out for a Diaby type player to stride through the middle. Once the tippy tappy misfires there is no plan b.

A real get out of jail from the Ram. That lad is prob the most important player in Arsenals team.

Weird that he persists with Sanogo. I don't know what he's waiting for....the fella has no trick. He's the most unArsenal player in recent years. Even Bendtner had something.

You were sore on Alexis. He saw plenty of the ball but like many others (even Ramsey) the final ball was off radar. He was lively though.

Cazorla had a day to forget but we know he's better than that. I thought Arteta did well and gave the centre backs little to do. Koscielny is a vital player when the chips are down. Often pops up at set pieces.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on August 17, 2014, 11:23:15 AM
Quote from: muppet on August 16, 2014, 07:29:07 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on August 16, 2014, 07:27:11 PM
And so it begins. The quest for the Premiership starts with an uncomfortable victory.

Lost 1-3 at home to Villa this game last year, so we already 3 points ahead!

Best thing that happened. It forced Wenger to get off his hole and buy the German.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 17, 2014, 08:47:03 PM
Another Chilean attacker on the way to Arsenal. Vargas joining on a season loan from Napoli.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 17, 2014, 08:53:07 PM
Really need a centre half.  Is the Greek lad coming? And a defensive midfielder with a good engine.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 17, 2014, 09:51:32 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 17, 2014, 08:47:03 PM
Another Chilean attacker on the way to Arsenal. Vargas joining on a season loan from Napoli.

WTF. Arsene looking for 5-4 shoot-outs every week?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on August 17, 2014, 10:05:36 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 17, 2014, 08:53:07 PM
Really need a centre half.  Is the Greek lad coming? And a defensive midfielder with a good engine.

Do ye want Lucas? 40 million and 1 pound would be grand for him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on August 17, 2014, 10:45:34 PM
Wenger comes across as a lad playing Football manager at times,just keeps buying attackers when other areas clearly need to be addressed(granted a top striker wouldn't go amiss) but the big thing Arsenal need is an athletic midfielder to sit beside Arteta and do the majority of running and tackling and let him play football.

What's Arsenal fans opinion of Wilshere? Surely with a full side he won't start? How much would he make now in comparison to if he was sold 2 or 3 years back  ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 17, 2014, 10:57:33 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 17, 2014, 08:53:07 PM
Really need a centre half.  Is the Greek lad coming? And a defensive midfielder with a good engine.

Wenger probaly isn't rushing for a defensive midfielder with Diaby back to fitness, named in the Squad against Palace. He is an excellent player, missed a good chunk of the past 2 seasons.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on August 17, 2014, 11:00:18 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 17, 2014, 10:57:33 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 17, 2014, 08:53:07 PM
Really need a centre half.  Is the Greek lad coming? And a defensive midfielder with a good engine.

Wenger probaly isn't rushing for a defensive midfielder with Diaby back to fitness, named in the Squad against Palace. He is an excellent player, missed a good chunk of the past 2 seasons.



I think that's the problem the last few seasons,he keeps thinking Diabys injury problems are behind him and then another comes along.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 17, 2014, 11:03:54 PM
Probaly, although the injuries he got you couldnt predict, cruciate,  ankle break etc
http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftalksport.com%2Fmagazine%2Ffeatures%2F130403%2Fshocking-graphic-all-abou-diabys-arsenal-injuries-194920&ei=MybxU9iOC4ay7Aat1YHwCA&usg=AFQjCNGHll0ZhCAjelTKS1LBg9BH3j1ZAw
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on August 17, 2014, 11:06:50 PM
Seen that earlier alright,pretty sick. Fair play to the lad if he ever does come back to his best after all that,there was a period of a few months 3 or 4 years back he was looking an absolute beast and would be a serious addition to Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 17, 2014, 11:13:09 PM
Wishere is not the great white hope (so far) we thought he may be...but Ramsey turned it around.

Fully fit squad, he's not starting.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 18, 2014, 09:27:47 PM
Quote.      but the big thing Arsenal need is an athletic midfielder to sit beside Arteta and do the majority of running and tackling and let him play football.               

Sit beside??? An athletic, tough tackling midfielder required to get Arteta OTF and onto the bench more like.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 18, 2014, 09:56:56 PM
Unarguably man of the match in his first game back for Cesc. Too bad it wasn't in a Gunners shirt.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Armamike on August 18, 2014, 10:13:42 PM
 
Quote from: tyroneman on August 18, 2014, 09:27:47 PM
Quote.      but the big thing Arsenal need is an athletic midfielder to sit beside Arteta and do the majority of running and tackling and let him play football.               

Sit beside??? An athletic, tough tackling midfielder required to get Arteta OTF and onto the bench more like.

;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on August 18, 2014, 10:28:30 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 18, 2014, 09:27:47 PM
Quote.      but the big thing Arsenal need is an athletic midfielder to sit beside Arteta and do the majority of running and tackling and let him play football.               

Sit beside??? An athletic, tough tackling midfielder required to get Arteta OTF and onto the bench more like.

You see this i don't understand from some Arsenal fans.after Utd i've seen as much of Arsenal as any other side (i'd say i've seen about half your games the past 2/3 years)and i'd have him down as your most consistent player in that time and is badly needed in that side for organisation and control of the ball around midfield and his passing off both feet is 2nd to none.

If he wasn't there it'd just be a case of attack,attack ,attack with all the midfielders bombing forward and leaving yourselves even more exposed than is currently the case. Ramsey's turning into an excellent player but his best work is getting forward, Wilshere's badly out of form and takes far too much out of the ball anyway, Rosicky's rarely fit/inform,Flamini's a tryer but that's all he is these days and Diaby's always injured.

I'd say when he's gone his true worth will be seen. Massive fan of the man,if that's not obvious  :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 18, 2014, 10:31:39 PM
Quote from: beer baron on August 18, 2014, 10:28:30 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 18, 2014, 09:27:47 PM
Quote.      but the big thing Arsenal need is an athletic midfielder to sit beside Arteta and do the majority of running and tackling and let him play football.               

Sit beside??? An athletic, tough tackling midfielder required to get Arteta OTF and onto the bench more like.

You see this i don't understand from some Arsenal fans.after Utd i've seen as much of Arsenal as any other side (i'd say i've seen about half your games the past 2/3 years)and i'd have him down as your most consistent player in that time and is badly needed in that side for organisation and control of the ball around midfield and his passing off both feet is 2nd to none.

If he wasn't there it'd just be a case of attack,attack ,attack with all the midfielders bombing forward and leaving yourselves even more exposed than is currently the case. Ramsey's turning into an excellent player but his best work is getting forward, Wilshere's badly out of form and takes far too much out of the ball anyway, Rosicky's rarely fit/inform,Flamini's a tryer but that's all he is these days and Diaby's always injured.

I'd say when he's gone his true worth will be seen. Massive fan of the man,if that's not obvious  :P

I agree with you to a certain extent. His passing stats  Saturday class but he's  no spring chicken and a younger upgrade would be nice.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 19, 2014, 12:09:36 PM
This Demba Ba boy will take a bit of watching tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 19, 2014, 12:16:57 PM
Should  have too much for them over two legs. Tough game the weekend.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 19, 2014, 01:11:39 PM
Played 12 won 12 in this round. Unlucky 13.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 19, 2014, 08:43:45 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 18, 2014, 10:31:39 PM
Quote from: beer baron on August 18, 2014, 10:28:30 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 18, 2014, 09:27:47 PM
Quote.      but the big thing Arsenal need is an athletic midfielder to sit beside Arteta and do the majority of running and tackling and let him play football.               

Sit beside??? An athletic, tough tackling midfielder required to get Arteta OTF and onto the bench more like.

You see this i don't understand from some Arsenal fans.after Utd i've seen as much of Arsenal as any other side (i'd say i've seen about half your games the past 2/3 years)and i'd have him down as your most consistent player in that time and is badly needed in that side for organisation and control of the ball around midfield and his passing off both feet is 2nd to none.

If he wasn't there it'd just be a case of attack,attack ,attack with all the midfielders bombing forward and leaving yourselves even more exposed than is currently the case. Ramsey's turning into an excellent player but his best work is getting forward, Wilshere's badly out of form and takes far too much out of the ball anyway, Rosicky's rarely fit/inform,Flamini's a tryer but that's all he is these days and Diaby's always injured.

I'd say when he's gone his true worth will be seen. Massive fan of the man,if that's not obvious  :P

I agree with you to a certain extent. His passing stats  Saturday class but he's  no spring chicken and a younger upgrade would be nice.

He's slow, one paced, loses the ball easily, can't tackle, gets overrun and outmuscled by good midfielders, creates little, has zero presence, slows play down unnecessarily, can't dribble and continually passes sideways like a less talented Ray Wilkins.....apart from that he's ok....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on August 19, 2014, 08:53:36 PM
Each to their own. I agree he's not quick,but to say he's easily disposessed,can't dribble and slows play down "unnecessarily" i find quite ridiculous.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 19, 2014, 09:45:13 PM
Giroud is a goat.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 19, 2014, 09:47:22 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on August 19, 2014, 09:45:13 PM
Giroud is a goat.

When he's bad there are few worse to look at. Torres the exception perhaps!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 19, 2014, 09:53:37 PM
Ba was plucking chances outa thin air(albeit he didn't score) but Giroud always find himself set up in front of goal and either kicks himself or the ground first. Ain't a gooner but Wenger might again rue not buying a out and out goal scoring centre forward.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tiempo on August 19, 2014, 10:38:54 PM
If Sanogo or Giroud were English then Wenger would never have given them a sniff. That's what is really annoying. He is totally biased towards French nationals. Shane Long or Niall McGinn at Aberdeen would do a better job than that joke Sanogo. Wengers logic is quite often shite. Don't offer players over 30 more than a 1 year contract extension being one of the old ones he tried to change recently by offering Sagna 3 years. He has shat in the nest far too often and is a huge part of the problem re lack of trophies this last 10 years.

His latest thought process is that the Germans aren't ready for 1st team action yet, now I despise Mourinho but he wouldn't stand for that bullshit notion and he had Schurrle playing last night. Joel Campbell is the one who will miss out with this Sanogo experiment, the kid is ready for his chance and Wenger is searching around for reasons to leave him on the bench or better still send him out on loan, the guy scored against Man Utd in the CL knockout stage last year and was a revelation at the World Cup, if you can't get a fair crack of the whip then, then when the hell can you??? Hasten to add if Joel Campbell was French...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on August 19, 2014, 10:40:48 PM
The wenger bashing has started early this year :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 19, 2014, 11:14:21 PM
Quote from: tiempo on August 19, 2014, 10:38:54 PM
If Sanogo or Giroud were English then Wenger would never have given them a sniff. That's what is really annoying. He is totally biased towards French nationals. Shane Long or Niall McGinn at Aberdeen would do a better job than that joke Sanogo. Wengers logic is quite often shite. Don't offer players over 30 more than a 1 year contract extension being one of the old ones he tried to change recently by offering Sagna 3 years. He has shat in the nest far too often and is a huge part of the problem re lack of trophies this last 10 years.

His latest thought process is that the Germans aren't ready for 1st team action yet, now I despise Mourinho but he wouldn't stand for that bullshit notion and he had Schurrle playing last night. Joel Campbell is the one who will miss out with this Sanogo experiment, the kid is ready for his chance and Wenger is searching around for reasons to leave him on the bench or better still send him out on loan, the guy scored against Man Utd in the CL knockout stage last year and was a revelation at the World Cup, if you can't get a fair crack of the whip then, then when the hell can you??? Hasten to add if Joel Campbell was French...

Sanogo is 21 not some veteran over 30. He might develop into a decent player for Arsenal it's a long season. Campbell well get chances I'd imagine

Wenger resting the German players - what is the issue with that? Van Gaal has rested Van Persie for United. Schurrle made 6 Sub appearances in the WC - while Ozil played a lot more minutes, starting 7 games? as did Mertesacker starting 6 games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 20, 2014, 01:11:47 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 19, 2014, 10:40:48 PM
The wenger bashing has started early this year :)

It was earlier last year!

Sanogo is a goat but Giroud has a bit of quality.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on August 20, 2014, 03:59:08 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 19, 2014, 11:14:21 PM
Wenger resting the German players - what is the issue with that? Van Gaal has rested Van Persie for United. Schurrle made 6 Sub appearances in the WC - while Ozil played a lot more minutes, starting 7 games? as did Mertesacker starting 6 games.

But the World Cup finished a month ago. Should a professional athlete not be fully recovered and ready to go in a month? If I was paying them a hundred grand a week I'd expect them to be. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 20, 2014, 09:33:12 AM
If Campbell doesnt feature in the return leg it's a sure sign he'll be sold before the window closes.

There was rumours a while back of AC wanting Campbell plus 'x amount' for Balotelli.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on August 20, 2014, 09:43:33 AM
In fairness, they had to have a holiday, even sled dogs get a break sometimes. Then when they returned they'd be behind the others and need to do a mini pre-season. No idea what Schurrle's story is, he may be anxious to get and hold a place on the Chelsea team and feels he can't have that break. It will be interesting to see how he goes later in the year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 20, 2014, 09:49:54 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on August 20, 2014, 03:59:08 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on August 19, 2014, 11:14:21 PM
Wenger resting the German players - what is the issue with that? Van Gaal has rested Van Persie for United. Schurrle made 6 Sub appearances in the WC - while Ozil played a lot more minutes, starting 7 games? as did Mertesacker starting 6 games.

But the World Cup finished a month ago. Should a professional athlete not be fully recovered and ready to go in a month? If I was paying them a hundred grand a week I'd expect them to be.

A professional athlete can still suffer from fatigue. Why the rush when they will still be playing 60 odd games this season between Pl, Carling Cup, Fa Cup and the champions league along with International games.

They will probaly feature in the second leg,
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 21, 2014, 08:34:37 AM
Talk of Podolski to be let go. Scores but other than that offers very little!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: joemamas on August 21, 2014, 01:57:29 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on August 21, 2014, 08:34:37 AM
Talk of Podolski to be let go. Scores but other than that offers very little!

Would not mind seeing the back of him, is it me or does he come across as a complete idiot, with the selfies and other photo opps.

Was at a games last season and it is apparent he is not a big favourite of the fans, a lot of them were calling him a fat cu*t. It was hilarious.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2014, 11:36:50 PM
He's still a handy squad player. Quare shot on him from distance - a rare quality for an Arsenal player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 23, 2014, 06:21:52 PM
Looks like tactically nothing has changed from last year when playing away against a decent side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on August 23, 2014, 07:31:49 PM
Looks like this Sanchez boy is going to be another dud.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 23, 2014, 07:32:50 PM
I thought Wenger did well in the 2nd half tactically, changes went well and Arsenal went more direct, thought Campbell in particular did well, just his manner, very direct.

Everton's 2nd goal should never had stood, so while a draw was a fair result you do have to ponder. Anyway you have to compliment Arsenal for their attitude and Naismith is a weasel.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 23, 2014, 11:41:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 23, 2014, 07:32:50 PM
I thought Wenger did well in the 2nd half tactically, changes went well and Arsenal went more direct, thought Campbell in particular did well, just his manner, very direct.

Everton's 2nd goal should never had stood, so while a draw was a fair result you do have to ponder. Anyway you have to compliment Arsenal for their attitude and Naismith is a weasel.

Yep, the changes worked but the starting side lacked any bite at all. It seems like the side is much better with Giroud there. When Walcott is back it's hard to predict the starting side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 24, 2014, 02:01:39 AM
Naismith brought a reputation from Scotland. Off the pitch he might do nice things. On the pitch he's a weasel. Arsenal need to realise that they have no first choice striker. Giroud is ok as plan b but.....

And Alexis Sanchez.fcuk me. Unreal. A luxury buy that will add little to the team. Barcelona will be laughing all the way to the bank.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on August 24, 2014, 12:35:35 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 24, 2014, 02:01:39 AM
Naismith brought a reputation from Scotland. Off the pitch he might do nice things. On the pitch he's a weasel. Arsenal need to realise that they have no first choice striker. Giroud is ok as plan b but.....

And Alexis Sanchez.fcuk me. Unreal. A luxury buy that will add little to the team. Barcelona will be laughing all the way to the bank.

Sanchez had a very slow start in Barca too, but he is certainly a class act.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 25, 2014, 11:07:55 PM
Looks like a new striker definitely needed. Giroud broken foot, 3 months out. His critics be happy but a huge loss. No one in squad to do that role.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 25, 2014, 11:15:55 PM
Feck sake. Besiktas looking tricky now.

Surely Podolski stays
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 25, 2014, 11:21:06 PM
Podolski being given chance in that role and couldn't do it
Giroud hold up play better and brings others into it. Maybe Remy now or talk of short term Eto deal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on August 25, 2014, 11:38:10 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 25, 2014, 11:21:06 PM
Podolski being given chance in that role and couldn't do it
Giroud hold up play better and brings others into it. Maybe Remy now or talk of short term Eto deal.

Anyone else hear rumours of why Remy didn't go to Liverpool?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tiempo on August 25, 2014, 11:46:36 PM
I would rather Arsenal bought no-one than went for Remy or other players who are not up to it. As in the past we have bought some terrible players in the last minute trolley dash, Squaliacci, Park, Santos being the obvious recent examples. If the players aren't available that are going to improve the first team then promote from within.

I said it before, Vermaleen spent the last two years as captain on the bench, Wenger has just promoted Arteta to captain and isn't going to sign someone who will depose him straight away, regardless of the needs of the team Wenger has his approach, his favourites, his experiments and his stubbornness.

I think Wenger will be looking at it thinking Diaby is back soon to cover for Arteta, Walcott is back soon to cover for Giroud, and it'll be grand.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 26, 2014, 12:19:08 AM
But if Giroud is out....it's all on Sanogo who has never scored a competitive goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 26, 2014, 10:03:30 AM
Quote from: beer baron on August 25, 2014, 11:38:10 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 25, 2014, 11:21:06 PM
Podolski being given chance in that role and couldn't do it
Giroud hold up play better and brings others into it. Maybe Remy now or talk of short term Eto deal.

Anyone else hear rumours of why Remy didn't go to Liverpool?

Issue with his heart. Liverpool didn't want to take a risk after trouble with Italian keeper Doni.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 26, 2014, 11:14:36 AM
Wenger really should be shown the door if he fails to strengthen the squad properly this year.

Ozil and Sanchez were luxury buys. The type you go after when all other components have been sorted and working well.

Walcott, Ramsey, Wilshire, Podolski, Ox, Arteta, Rosicky, Sanchez, Carzola, Gnabry, Ryo, Ozil.....surely 2-3 of these could have been sacrificed for a decent DMF and CF?

The failure to replace RvP is inexcusable. Persisting with a lumbering goalless striker who has showed nothing in competitive football is madness.

Even Giroud who I believe is a decent player is still not a #1 in anyone's book.

Neither Walcott or Sanchez are centre forwards. Walcott is 50/50 anytime he is clean through and Sanchez never was a CF
Podolski was only ever a #2 option.

I fear it will be another nearly season from Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 26, 2014, 11:27:33 AM
Gnev reckons something similar Oneill:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2734343/Gary-Neville-says-Arsenal-won-t-mount-Premier-League-title-challenge-unless-Arsene-Wenger-starts-adapt-tactics-against-class-opponents.html

It really pains me but he's very good and usually not far wrong. By God I hated him when he played for Man Ure. . . hopefully the longer he is away from the Club the more of a chance I will give him!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 27, 2014, 08:19:35 PM
Hairy enough
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on August 27, 2014, 08:36:03 PM
You can breathe now o neill ;D goal came at a good time they were stringing a few nice bits of play together. That sahaan lads a decent player. You could've done worse than sign demba ba in the summer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 27, 2014, 08:38:58 PM
The threat of the away goal still strong. Need an early second.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 27, 2014, 09:03:01 PM
Debuchy and Wilshere will both be relieved men after the penalty shouts against them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 27, 2014, 09:06:34 PM
Wilshire is having a great game for Arsenal nonetheless.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 27, 2014, 09:23:16 PM
This is still feckin hairy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 27, 2014, 09:30:15 PM
Unfortunate red card. Hanging on. Up Athletic.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: clarshack on August 27, 2014, 09:41:10 PM
Besiktas gave arsenal a real game. Arsenal probably fortunate enough to go through.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 27, 2014, 10:16:20 PM
Wilshere played well.

But how are they going to compete without a striker?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on August 27, 2014, 10:30:33 PM
Zigic the man, cometh the hour.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 27, 2014, 11:10:26 PM
I'd take back nicklas bendtner over zigic. Jack class. Ox started well ran out of steam. Ozil still of pace. Calum Chambers getting England call up. Perhaps too soon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on August 28, 2014, 06:16:31 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on August 27, 2014, 10:30:33 PM
Zigic the man, cometh the hour.

Very reliable in the 90th minute  :D.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 28, 2014, 08:47:33 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 27, 2014, 11:10:26 PM
I'd take back nicklas bendtner over zigic. Jack class. Ox started well ran out of steam. Ozil still of pace. Calum Chambers getting England call up. Perhaps too soon.

The English never learn do they. Just cant help themselves. Yes the lad has had a decent start but what happens when the inevitable dip happens (like all young players) and he doesnt make the next England squad. All the hype and media that goes with it. Madness!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on August 28, 2014, 09:17:24 AM
Debuchy was some clown last night,the ref could get him a nice suspension if he wants to for his over the top appealing after the 2nd yellow,surprised there hasn't been more mention of it. Wilshere played his best game in a while which is a plus for you guys.
Serious lack of intelligence in that side at times though,last 5 minutes they kept trying  to break for another goal and then losing the ball which gave Besiktas the opportunity to counter and could've led to you going out,the smart option was obviously to keep the ball especially with some of the technical ability in your side.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on August 28, 2014, 12:56:21 PM
Quote from: beer baron on August 28, 2014, 09:17:24 AM
Debuchy was some clown last night,the ref could get him a nice suspension if he wants to for his over the top appealing after the 2nd yellow,surprised there hasn't been more mention of it. Wilshere played his best game in a while which is a plus for you guys.
Serious lack of intelligence in that side at times though,last 5 minutes they kept trying  to break for another goal and then losing the ball which gave Besiktas the opportunity to counter and could've led to you going out,the smart option was obviously to keep the ball especially with some of the technical ability in your side.
There is technical ability in the Arsenal side but (based on last night)  the tactics appear to be more dumbed down this season to running around frantically, harrying, obsessive closing down and aggression. I can't say I have been following the timeline of Wenger's tactics too closely but this appears to me to be a departure of sorts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 28, 2014, 01:00:22 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 28, 2014, 12:56:21 PM
Quote from: beer baron on August 28, 2014, 09:17:24 AM
Debuchy was some clown last night,the ref could get him a nice suspension if he wants to for his over the top appealing after the 2nd yellow,surprised there hasn't been more mention of it. Wilshere played his best game in a while which is a plus for you guys.
Serious lack of intelligence in that side at times though,last 5 minutes they kept trying  to break for another goal and then losing the ball which gave Besiktas the opportunity to counter and could've led to you going out,the smart option was obviously to keep the ball especially with some of the technical ability in your side.
There is technical ability in the Arsenal side but (based on last night)  the tactics appear to be more dumbed down this season to running around frantically, harrying, obsessive closing down and aggression. I can't say I have been following the timeline of Wenger's tactics too closely but this appears to me to be a departure of sorts.


Any chance of him returning to the 6ft plus midfield enforcer type anytime soon??

Something like Vieira, Petit, Silva, Edu would do nicely!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on August 28, 2014, 01:04:49 PM
Was petit 6 foot? That'd be ironic.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2014, 01:05:46 PM
I think when Arsenal meet Besiktas later on in the year it will be a Besiktas who'll come out on top
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 28, 2014, 01:11:45 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2014, 01:04:49 PM
Was petit 6 foot? That'd be ironic.

6'1 according to the ever reliable wiki.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on August 28, 2014, 02:14:01 PM
Vieira probably made him look smaller than he was/is. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 28, 2014, 03:04:13 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on August 28, 2014, 01:00:22 PM
Quote from: Main Street on August 28, 2014, 12:56:21 PM
Quote from: beer baron on August 28, 2014, 09:17:24 AM
Debuchy was some clown last night,the ref could get him a nice suspension if he wants to for his over the top appealing after the 2nd yellow,surprised there hasn't been more mention of it. Wilshere played his best game in a while which is a plus for you guys.
Serious lack of intelligence in that side at times though,last 5 minutes they kept trying  to break for another goal and then losing the ball which gave Besiktas the opportunity to counter and could've led to you going out,the smart option was obviously to keep the ball especially with some of the technical ability in your side.
There is technical ability in the Arsenal side but (based on last night)  the tactics appear to be more dumbed down this season to running around frantically, harrying, obsessive closing down and aggression. I can't say I have been following the timeline of Wenger's tactics too closely but this appears to me to be a departure of sorts.


Any chance of him returning to the 6ft plus midfield enforcer type anytime soon??

Something like Vieira, Petit, Silva, Edu would do nicely!

Rabiot of PSG might fit the bill, 6f 2
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 28, 2014, 04:44:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 28, 2014, 01:05:46 PM
I think when Arsenal meet Besiktas later on in the year it will be a Besiktas who'll come out on top

Stick to the reffing.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 28, 2014, 05:46:03 PM
Dortmund galatasary anderlecht. Take that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 01, 2014, 01:27:52 PM
And Wenger flys to Rome to referee a charity match on deadline day.

While he prob ( maybe) has submitted his targets and price limits it's not gonna look good if no one arrives of the calibre needed to replace Giroud.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on September 01, 2014, 03:53:43 PM
It's funny. It's as if he does it on purpose. f**k the lot of ye.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 01, 2014, 09:27:51 PM
Well they signed Danny Wellbeck for 16 mio, so someone is doing busy on his behalf!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on September 01, 2014, 09:59:43 PM
Think Welbeck will be a great signing for Arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: trileacman on September 01, 2014, 10:08:32 PM
Could be a great signing I think as well. In the "Daniel Sturridge for f**k all" bracket.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 01, 2014, 11:57:16 PM
Most stubborn man is Wenger.

I think Wellbeck is a good signing but not title challenging signing...,
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 02, 2014, 12:06:19 AM
I really don't know how to feel about Welbeck. Reserve judgement till he plays in central role.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 08, 2014, 09:57:49 PM
Welbeck is the man 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on September 08, 2014, 10:04:43 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 08, 2014, 09:57:49 PM
Welbeck is the man 8) 8) 8)
Man United have just bid £90million for him
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on September 08, 2014, 10:23:21 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 08, 2014, 10:04:43 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 08, 2014, 09:57:49 PM
Welbeck is the man 8) 8) 8)
Man United have just bid £90million for him

£90million and £1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on September 11, 2014, 03:22:28 PM
What's Wenger playing at?

QuoteDanny Welbeck would not be an Arsenal player now if manager Arsene Wenger had been in London on transfer deadline day, the Frenchman has said.
The England striker signed for Arsenal from Manchester United in a £16m deal on the final day of the window, while Wenger was in Rome for a charity game.
Wenger said on Thursday that his initial preference had been to sign the player on loan and added: "If I had not travelled that day, Welbeck would not be here. I will explain that a bit later, but if I stayed at home, Welbeck would not be here today."
He cryptically added: "I will tell you that story one day – but that is the truth."
Welbeck was using Arsenal's training base at London Colney in the build-up to England's friendly against Norway on deadline day, September 1.
It is reported that during that time Gunners duo Mikel Arteta and captain Per Mertesacker learned of the 23-year-old's availability, with Tottenham the most likely destination, and so urged the Arsenal hierarchy to make their own move.
A permanent transfer was signed off while Wenger was in Rome for the 'Match for Peace' and when asked by Press Association Sport whether he would have preferred a loan deal for Welbeck, Wenger said: "With an option to buy, yes."
"When it was a permanent transfer, or loan with an option to buy, I was happy to take a permanent transfer."
"At the start of the day the player was only available on loan, but after he became available to buy, I agreed."
Wenger's comments made it unclear to say the least whether he had been in favour of the permanent acquisition of Welbeck.
His exit from Old Trafford was prompted by their deadline-day signing of Radamel Falcao from Monaco, initially on loan.
Wenger added: "I thought when (United) bought Falcao they had to let somebody go and I was not aware at the start (of the day) when I heard that he could be available."
"It was quick because it was on the last day of the transfer window and I had no hesitation to do it."
Whatever his thoughts on the deal struck, Welbeck is very much part of Wenger's plans and the Frenchman is convinced the United academy graduate can go on to be a key player within the squad.
"He can first of all make himself a better player because I can help him," said Wenger.
"Danny is a young boy, not 24 yet and let's not forget that some players who arrived here at the age of 23 made huge careers here, so I hope we can contribute and help him."
Meanwhile, midfielder Aaron Ramsey will be assessed after turning his ankle during Wales' win in Andorra – but Wenger hopes any absence will be short-term.
"The first news is not bad," said the Arsenal boss.
"He will be assessed (on Thursday), he has a little chance to be available for Saturday. He had an ankle sprain, it is a minor one, that is for sure.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 11, 2014, 04:25:49 PM
Stupid from Wenger. Could potentially affect players confidence. Say I'm happy to sign him and move on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on September 12, 2014, 10:38:43 AM
A lot of different interpretations on Wenger's comment re: Welbeck.

Latest one being that he actually met someone in Rome to help the deal go through......

Supposedly that is why he is saying that if he hadn't of went to Rome Welbeck would not have came to Arsenal.

Who knows.....

Pictures of him and Whiskey nose out there at the time..........only a coincidence I'd say........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 12, 2014, 11:50:57 AM
Ha! Selective quotes are a wonderful thing indeed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 13, 2014, 12:23:31 PM
Szczesny, Debuchy, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Monreal, Flamini, Wilshere, Ramsey, Alexis, Ozil, Welbeck
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 13, 2014, 01:39:54 PM
Early chance for Welbeck - should have scored - hasn't sniffed it yet.

City upped the aggression when Arsenal were dominating early on and it worked.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 13, 2014, 01:47:28 PM
Thought Welbeck did as well as anyone might there, just unlucky.

Lack of a decent DMF once again causing problems.......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 13, 2014, 01:51:22 PM
Owen is rank awful to listen to and don't get me started on the morons moron I Wright....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on September 13, 2014, 02:22:34 PM
great second goal, looks like another man to add to the injury table
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 13, 2014, 02:33:13 PM
No Toure today.....a game Arsenal must win ..... and.........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 13, 2014, 04:33:21 PM
2-2 against the champs ain't bad but by God Arsenal are nowhere near defensively ready to win major trophies.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 13, 2014, 06:40:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 13, 2014, 04:33:21 PM
2-2 against the champs ain't bad but by God Arsenal are nowhere near defensively ready to win major trophies.

2-2 at home against a team starting a 36 yr old MLS player is poor. Same old vulnerabilities.

Same. Old. Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on September 13, 2014, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 13, 2014, 06:40:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 13, 2014, 04:33:21 PM
2-2 against the champs ain't bad but by God Arsenal are nowhere near defensively ready to win major trophies.

2-2 at home against a team starting a 36 yr old MLS player is poor. Same old vulnerabilities.

Same. Old. Arsenal.

Unless you can give examples of how Arsenal have been vulnerable against 36 year old MLS players, then your post is just a troll.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 14, 2014, 07:18:44 AM
Quote from: Windmill abu on September 13, 2014, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 13, 2014, 06:40:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 13, 2014, 04:33:21 PM
2-2 against the champs ain't bad but by God Arsenal are nowhere near defensively ready to win major trophies.

2-2 at home against a team starting a 36 yr old MLS player is poor. Same old vulnerabilities.

Same. Old. Arsenal.

Unless you can give examples of how Arsenal have been vulnerable against 36 year old MLS players, then your post is just a troll.

All I need to do is illustrate Arsenal displaying the same vulnerabilities they have had for years, the fact it was against a team with a 36 yr old MLS player starting just makes it worse.

The point I was making is that every year we hear how Arsenal are ready to compete for the EPL and beat the big teams. Then it doesn't happen.

Ok, they avoided getting beat but when the champions come to town without Toure and are playing a 36 yr old MLS player instead it should have given Arsenal a huge advantage.

Instead they

a) display the same old set piece vulnerability
b) still have key players switching off at crucial times
c) struggle to create chances against the other top clubs
d) don't have a marquee forward clinical enough to finish any chanes they do get.
e) have no top class DMF to protect the back 4 (Flamini had 15 yards on Aguero and still got beat to the ball)

So no, I'm not trolling, I'm just disappointed seeing the same old failings happen again, Groundhog Day.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 14, 2014, 09:37:55 AM
Disappointed Debuchy got injured. He was the one defender who actually was aggressive. Chambers replaced him and....it'd be harsh to blame him for the second goal but he was central to it.

Dortmund will be tough.

This is a stat and a half: Arsenal have conceded from the first shot on target faced in all four Premier League games this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on September 14, 2014, 02:08:53 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 14, 2014, 07:18:44 AM
Quote from: Windmill abu on September 13, 2014, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 13, 2014, 06:40:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 13, 2014, 04:33:21 PM
2-2 against the champs ain't bad but by God Arsenal are nowhere near defensively ready to win major trophies.

2-2 at home against a team starting a 36 yr old MLS player is poor. Same old vulnerabilities.

Same. Old. Arsenal.

Unless you can give examples of how Arsenal have been vulnerable against 36 year old MLS players, then your post is just a troll.

All I need to do is illustrate Arsenal displaying the same vulnerabilities they have had for years, the fact it was against a team with a 36 yr old MLS player starting just makes it worse.

The point I was making is that every year we hear how Arsenal are ready to compete for the EPL and beat the big teams. Then it doesn't happen.

Ok, they avoided getting beat but when the champions come to town without Toure and are playing a 36 yr old MLS player instead it should have given Arsenal a huge advantage.

Instead they

a) display the same old set piece vulnerability
b) still have key players switching off at crucial times
c) struggle to create chances against the other top clubs
d) don't have a marquee forward clinical enough to finish any chanes they do get.
e) have no top class DMF to protect the back 4 (Flamini had 15 yards on Aguero and still got beat to the ball)

So no, I'm not trolling, I'm just disappointed seeing the same old failings happen again, Groundhog Day.

It's sunny today. I am going to burn my coat and take the roof off the house.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on September 15, 2014, 02:49:25 PM
Mesut knows his stuff...

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/mcs/media/images/77591000/jpg/_77591223_ac2151a9-70df-4b6d-b7d5-177e0db0baba.jpg)
Arsenal midfielder Mesut Ozil: Samuel L. Jackson: he doesn't only know a lot about good movies, but he also supports the best football team!

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on September 16, 2014, 11:15:01 AM
Héctor Bellerín looks likely to start at RB.

8 appearances for Watford in the League and 1 for Arsenal in the League Cup to date.

Borussia Dortmund, nay bother.

On the plus side, he has broken Theo Walcott's record for 40m according to Wikipedia.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 16, 2014, 11:45:38 AM
You forgot the Emirates Cup!!

Good thing Reus isn't playing. A draw would do rightly.

Has Joel Campbell done something to annoy Wenger, add the Ox to that!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 16, 2014, 12:55:05 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 15, 2014, 02:49:25 PM
Mesut knows his stuff...

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/mcs/media/images/77591000/jpg/_77591223_ac2151a9-70df-4b6d-b7d5-177e0db0baba.jpg)
Arsenal midfielder Mesut Ozil: Samuel L. Jackson: he doesn't only know a lot about good movies, but he also supports the best football team!

You sure that's not the other one, fishburne


:P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 16, 2014, 08:39:34 PM
Half a Dortmund team have 15 shots, 4 on target, 7 corners and 1 goal......in the first half. 

Arsenal... 2 shots.... That's it.

No DMF presence. No defensive nous. No threat up front.

But sure ..... Wenger knows what he's doing.....and we aren't allowed to be upset, or criticise him, just accept the same aul sh!te every year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 16, 2014, 08:43:36 PM
Hopefully he reads this and sorts it out at HT....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: sensethetone on September 16, 2014, 08:53:11 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 16, 2014, 08:43:36 PM
Hopefully he reads this and sorts it out at HT....
like
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 16, 2014, 09:40:43 PM
Dung
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 16, 2014, 09:49:01 PM
Ok. At which point does Arsenal cut their losses with Wenger.

They won't win the EPL and they won't win the CL this year again.

It's clear to everyone they needed a world class striker, not Wellbeck.

They needed world class defenders, not Chambers.

They needed a world class DFM, not Sanchez.

Chelsea needed a striker....they bought Costa. They needed creativity in midfield. They bought Fabregas.

Chalk and cheese.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 16, 2014, 10:37:31 PM
What bugs me is the blind spot in defence or defensive mid.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 16, 2014, 10:53:19 PM
Lads the DM or defence is not the problem. Away from home or against the big teams Wenger never changes his tactics. Full backs should be more cautious in these games. It's the system that's the problem. Only so much our centre halves and defensive midfielders can do when they only one at home when the counter is on. When we in opposition half both full backs advanced regardless of what side of the pitch the ball is. The system is terrible and Wenger never takes the opposition into account. Too stubborn. Arteta not top class but to level all blame at him is harsh.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 16, 2014, 11:22:20 PM
I agree - Wenger is tactically inept when playing big teams and has been for years.

He has no idea how to sit tight when away from home or playing a technically superior side. Neither does he possess a plan b.

He seems to have been obsessed by recreating the pretty 1 touch passing of Pep's Barca, but has missed the fact that they actually work their b*llocks of to regain possession, not jog around the pitch at half speed (Souness was spot on when he said Wilshire actually runs faster with the ball than without, as he seems to have little to no work ethic when not in possession and going forward)

However it's crazy to think the lack of defence and DMF is not an issue. Not the ONLY issue , granted but certainly a huge factor.

Issues that could have been fixed at any stage over the past 5 years.

The maddening thing is he once upon a time seemed to 'get' it - solid defenders (albeit mainly inherited) 2 x 6 ft DMF players, speedy DIRECT wingers and strikers who could take chances. All with a serious work ethic.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on September 16, 2014, 11:26:03 PM
Those Arsenal jerseys are ridiculous.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 17, 2014, 12:24:47 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 16, 2014, 11:22:20 PM
I agree - Wenger is tactically inept when playing big teams and has been for years.

He has no idea how to sit tight when away from home or playing a technically superior side. Neither does he possess a plan b.

He seems to have been obsessed by recreating the pretty 1 touch passing of Pep's Barca, but has missed the fact that they actually work their b*llocks of to regain possession, not jog around the pitch at half speed (Souness was spot on when he said Wilshire actually runs faster with the ball than without, as he seems to have little to no work ethic when not in possession and going forward)

However it's crazy to think the lack of defence and DMF is not an issue. Not the ONLY issue , granted but certainly a huge factor.

Issues that could have been fixed at any stage over the past 5 years.

The maddening thing is he once upon a time seemed to 'get' it - solid defenders (albeit mainly inherited) 2 x 6 ft DMF players, speedy DIRECT wingers and strikers who could take chances. All with a serious work ethic.

The 04 side was his. Lehmann - Cole, Campbell, Toure and Lauren. Then Vieira and Gilberto. They were aggressive ball winners.

Since then a litany of shite mostly has replaced it. The amount of unforced errors per game is killing Arsenal. It seems that if Ozil or Wilshere lose the ball it's a goal chance at the other end. They rarely atone for their errors by tracking back. Arsenal on the back foot are bottom half of the league standard.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 18, 2014, 12:25:07 PM
Joseph Yobo and others being linked now. Panic stations already. Debuchey potentially needs operation.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 18, 2014, 12:26:11 PM
Quick question. Anyone here ever watch game in Mercantile with Arsenal supporters club?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 20, 2014, 10:34:50 PM
That was a nice way to recover from the Dortmund mauling - playing a team riddled with sickness.

The second half was a training session.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on September 20, 2014, 11:24:14 PM
Any silver members from the wee North on this thread?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 22, 2014, 09:35:10 AM
Great weekend (results wise) for the Gooners!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 23, 2014, 09:43:05 PM
I thought Arsenal played far better minus Wilshere at the weekend.

He plays tonight and the same old problems emerge - threading balls through a needle stuff.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 26, 2014, 11:15:34 PM
Derby tomorrow - Spurs expecting nothing  - fear that.

Interested in fellow Gooner preferred line ups. Much debate over Sanchez/Wilshere.

I'd go for

Whatever back 4 available

Arteta-Ramsey

Alexis-Cazorla-Ozil

Welbeck
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on September 26, 2014, 11:31:45 PM
You'll regret not signing Zigic yet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 26, 2014, 11:42:29 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 26, 2014, 11:15:34 PM
Derby tomorrow - Spurs expecting nothing  - fear that.

Interested in fellow Gooner preferred line ups. Much debate over Sanchez/Wilshere.

I'd go for

Whatever back 4 available

Arteta-Ramsey

Alexis-Cazorla-Ozil

Welbeck

I am the only who thinks Ramsey has been a bit meh! this season. Would start Wilshere and the Ox ahead of him and Arteta.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 26, 2014, 11:46:43 PM
I think that's harsh on Ramsey.

Not at the same level as last year but playing a much more defensive role, very close to Arteta.

Ox injects urgency but his crossing is chronic. Wilshere is approaching luxury material. I've no faith in any English player at Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 28, 2014, 05:17:16 PM
6 years of injuries.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 28, 2014, 10:16:49 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 26, 2014, 11:46:43 PM
I think that's harsh on Ramsey.

Not at the same level as last year but playing a much more defensive role, very close to Arteta.

Ox injects urgency but his crossing is chronic. Wilshere is approaching luxury material. I've no faith in any English player at Arsenal.

Chambers?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 11:32:10 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 28, 2014, 05:17:16 PM
6 years of injuries.

When did Arsenal move to Ashburton?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 28, 2014, 11:38:38 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 11:32:10 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 28, 2014, 05:17:16 PM
6 years of injuries.

When did Arsenal move to Ashburton?

Every Friday I check this table - http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php - and Arsenal are always top 5.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 28, 2014, 11:40:32 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 26, 2014, 11:15:34 PM
Derby tomorrow - Spurs expecting nothing  - fear that.

Interested in fellow Gooner preferred line ups. Much debate over Sanchez/Wilshere.

I'd go for

Whatever back 4 available

Arteta-Ramsey

Alexis-Cazorla-Ozil

Welbeck

Tramps. Beat my 7 timer, ah well. Always next week
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 29, 2014, 10:15:21 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 28, 2014, 11:38:38 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 11:32:10 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 28, 2014, 05:17:16 PM
6 years of injuries.

When did Arsenal move to Ashburton?

Every Friday I check this table - http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php - and Arsenal are always top 5.

Arsenal have changed medical teams and S&C teams yet still are getting injuries. Physiology Arsenal have more technical smaller footballers than the big physical athletes you see playing for Chelsea, Stoke, Man City etc. With practically two games every week it could be a case Arsenal's less athletic players can't recover as quickly, also Wenger's team seem poor at injury management, how many times as Wenger rushed players back only for a new injury to occur? Is it coincidence that Arteta and Ramsey were just after recovering from injuries and are now out again?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on September 29, 2014, 03:31:04 PM
What's been the story with Sanchez the last couple of games, dropped or injured?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 29, 2014, 07:36:41 PM
Some reckon Wenger thinks Sanchez not direct enough. Slows the build up down.

The injury situation is tough. Kos slight knock Ramsey 6 weeks Arteta 3 weeks. Joining others. Wenger hopes BFG can play next two and rest during international break.

Maybe try Coquelin holding midfield and Bellerin right back. Chambers can cover centre half. Perhaps throw Hayden in?

All other areas well covered but were an injury or two from disaster in defence and holding midfielder. Diaby or Jack could maybe played there either. Not looking forward to Chelsea game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on September 30, 2014, 03:47:11 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 29, 2014, 07:36:41 PM
Some reckon Wenger thinks Sanchez not direct enough. Slows the build up down.

Was Wenger not responsible for signing him? He's an expensive sub and more importantly it's killing my draft team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 30, 2014, 04:04:20 PM
Surely get run now with all injuries. Ox might be used centrally.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BartSimpson on September 30, 2014, 09:46:37 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 29, 2014, 10:15:21 AM
Arsenal have changed medical teams and S&C teams yet still are getting injuries.
I have read about this German guy that Wenger brought in, as I have a keen interest in S+C etc. He is one of the most highly sought after, and to be fair to him, S+C programmes, and injury prevention measures don't just happen overnight. It takes several weeks and possibly months to see the improvements.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 01, 2014, 10:46:21 PM
Pity about the red card. Would have liked a few players took of for rest before Chelsea. Welbeck movement was class. Would have took him of if no red. Not be as much space Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 02, 2014, 10:31:17 PM
Again, played far better with Wilshere on the bench.

I'm convinced he clogs play up with his tight 1-2s. He'll score one clinker a year playing that way but a lot of good play falls down around him. When he's not there, Cazorla and Ozil seem to get the ball in much more space.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 03, 2014, 04:30:16 PM
Cesc is going to tear a few new ones isn't he?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 03, 2014, 06:29:12 PM
Wenger needs to bunch centre and use pace to catch on counter. No high line either. Lets see has he learned lessons.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BartSimpson on October 03, 2014, 08:50:58 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 03, 2014, 04:30:16 PM
Cesc is going to tear a few new ones isn't he?
Ach, tis written in the stars. He'll score a goal, but not celebrate. A great result for Arsenal would be a draw, but have a feeling the pensioners will win by 2 or 3 clear goals.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 03, 2014, 09:12:44 PM
This is the side that lost 6-0 last season:

01 Szczesny
03 Sagna
28 Gibbs (red card)
15 Oxlade-Chamberlain (Flamini - 45' )
04 Mertesacker
06 Koscielny (Jenkinson - 45' )
07 Rosicky
08 Arteta
12 Giroud
19 Cazorla
09 Podolski (Vermaelen - 24' )

If no change in tactics (we know Arsene) - can Welbeck, Ozil and Sanchez make a difference......gulp
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on October 03, 2014, 09:40:27 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 03, 2014, 06:29:12 PM
Wenger needs to bunch centre and use pace to catch on counter. No high line either. Lets see has he learned lessons.

Totally agree. If he persists with the highline like last year it could be another embarassment. The problem is without Arteta who have they/you got to control the tempo of the game in the middle of the field and be patient,the rest of the midfielders are always looking  to attack,that won't work.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 03, 2014, 10:41:34 PM
Add Cesc and Costa...unless Arsene has lost his marbles he'll park le bus for the first time since FA Cup final 2005.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 03, 2014, 11:51:17 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 03, 2014, 09:12:44 PM
This is the side that lost 6-0 last season:

01 Szczesny
03 Sagna
28 Gibbs (red card)
15 Oxlade-Chamberlain (Flamini - 45' )
04 Mertesacker
06 Koscielny (Jenkinson - 45' )
07 Rosicky
08 Arteta
12 Giroud
19 Cazorla
09 Podolski (Vermaelen - 24' )

If no change in tactics (we know Arsene) - can Welbeck, Ozil and Sanchez make a difference......gulp

At least 5 of that team not starting. Kos went of and red card created a perfect storm. Put ox beside flamini and let them sit in front of defence.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 05, 2014, 05:41:44 PM
What a ball of dung. No shots on target.

Arsenal have no world class players. Chelsea have 6-7.

Ozil? - Doesn't fancy it any more. I'm sure Sanchez is wondering what he has done going to London.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AQMP on October 05, 2014, 05:43:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 05, 2014, 05:41:44 PM
What a ball of dung. No shots on target.

Arsenal have no world class players. Chelsea have 6-7.

Ozil? - Doesn't fancy it any more. I'm sure Sanchez is wondering what he has done going to London.

You forgot to add that the manager is a dick.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on October 05, 2014, 05:49:28 PM
Ozil is not performing but neither is he being used effectively. Alexis is a 35million luxury. Gone is the other 10  are top class but no chance of him being the main man.

Time for Wenger to go.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on October 05, 2014, 09:45:16 PM
Mourinho is afraid of Wenger. Mourinho feigned it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BartSimpson on October 08, 2014, 09:38:59 PM
And the injury stricken Arsenal continue with Marty Feldman injuring his knee on international duty. It will take several months for the new fitness coach to start effecting the players, but thats an awful start to the clubs year on injury front.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 08, 2014, 10:14:12 PM
Ozil serious loss. Most passes in final third in Europe's five top leagues this season. Serious questions have to be asked why always injuries. Maybe Arsenal's style of play causes more fouls against.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mouview on October 09, 2014, 11:26:12 AM
Ozil's absence likely to tip the balance in our favour for the Euro qualifier next week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 09, 2014, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: mouview on October 09, 2014, 11:26:12 AM
Ozil's absence likely to tip the balance in our favour for the Euro qualifier next week.

Did you not see him play against Chelsea?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 09, 2014, 01:41:13 PM
He plays well with Germany. Problem with Arsenal is Wenger but in Villa and Galatasary games showed a bit of form. If you see Arsenal's average players positions against Chelsea all 5 midfielders were in middle. Problem is no one wants to play out wide. Ox should start more big games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 09, 2014, 01:47:20 PM
Plus Ozil actually injured his knee in the game and played full 90. Which begs massive questions of Arsenal's medical team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 09, 2014, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 09, 2014, 01:47:20 PM
Plus Ozil actually injured his knee in the game and played full 90. Which begs massive questions of Arsenal's medical team.

Nonsense.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 09, 2014, 02:31:53 PM
Dinny I wish it was nonsense but Arsenal sent him of to International duty knowing that he was injured.

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/354201.html (http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/354201.html)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 09, 2014, 11:07:06 PM
I don't believe a bit of it.

Low was at Stamford Bridge on Sunday. I think he was well aware that Ozil's head was in the wrong place.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 10, 2014, 12:50:45 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 09, 2014, 02:31:53 PM
Dinny I wish it was nonsense but Arsenal sent him of to International duty knowing that he was injured.

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/354201.html (http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/354201.html)

They're obliged to send him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 10, 2014, 02:46:51 PM
I know they are but can you imagine Ferguson sending an injured player to International duty. Same with Kos who has acute tendinitis in both achilles and still sent. France sent him back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 10, 2014, 03:15:49 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 10, 2014, 02:46:51 PM
I know they are but can you imagine Ferguson sending an injured player to International duty. Same with Kos who has acute tendinitis in both achilles and still sent. France sent him back.

FIFA regulations but lets stick with the narrative instead.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 10, 2014, 03:36:45 PM
As I understand it, the club are obliged to send the player if requested, even if injured, for an assessment by the international team's doctors. Most times that's not required because the club and country agree it between them, but if the country looks for him, he's supposed to go.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 15, 2014, 06:47:36 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2794307/mesut-ozil-heard-crack-left-knee-against-chelsea-reveals-arsene-wenger.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

That's why the injury problems are so serious. Also Wenger thinks it's just a coincidence. 900 injuries since 2002. Rosicky doubt for weekend. Back four of Bellerin Monreal Per and Gibbs. In reserve Coquelin and Hayden. Kos may make bench.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 15, 2014, 11:05:06 PM
Fcukin deadly.

What's worse is that the replacement players have little future at the club.

Offensively Arsenal can ride a spate of injuries. Defensively it's a massacre.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 15, 2014, 11:52:48 PM
Bellerin has a future but out of his depth yet while there is high hopes for Hayden. Monreal is a back up left back not centre half. The problem was one defensive injury was gonna cause a crisis. Wenger gambled on this and lost with Debuchey injury. A supposed transfer budget of 20 million is not going to solve the two major areas that need addressing with good enough quality plus there an issue where Korenke is getting 3 million paid to his companies out of club coffers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 16, 2014, 12:15:40 AM
Yes, that £3m was a bit of a shock and I know it's pittance compared to how other owners treat their clubs.

I suppose that's what you have to expect and probably only the tip.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 17, 2014, 11:27:10 PM
A lot of talk online that Dinny is togging out at CB tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 17, 2014, 11:39:22 PM
He couldn't make the slurry cup team FFS.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 17, 2014, 11:42:06 PM
Come back Senderos. All is forgiven.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on October 18, 2014, 12:31:16 AM
Walcott played for the U-21s tonight.

Apparently he only lasted a half so hopes that he might play for the senior team are probably premature. Diaby played as well and didn't finish. What is it with great minors not making it to the top flight?

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/oct/17/theo-walcott-arsenal-under-21-blackburn (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/oct/17/theo-walcott-arsenal-under-21-blackburn)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 18, 2014, 04:07:48 PM
Just watching Fabregas the last few weeks, they really should have moved mountains to get him back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on October 18, 2014, 04:09:25 PM
He must have just read my mind.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on October 18, 2014, 04:36:04 PM
Same old same old. Positions of most need are the ones letting Arsenal down again. Everyone knew it last year, yet Wenger splashes cash on a luxury winger and a b-list striker.

Time. To. Go.

And I say that knowing both scored. They were not what Arsenal needed. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on October 18, 2014, 04:53:09 PM
Not trying to be a smartarse here but i see Wilshere was substituted,the British tabloids won't like that,they've been creaming themselves over how fantastic he's apparently been playing the last few weeks  ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 18, 2014, 09:00:39 PM
I've had enough of watching that crap. There's no point in buying rich-club cast-offs like Ozil, Sanchez and Welbeck if they're surrounded by shit.

Even Mertesecker failed to deal with a cross that was made for him. Wilshere pussies about, then when he's touched he looks to the medical team to see to him.

Are Arsenal progressing? Have they made any progression in 6-7 years?

I know some clubs would bite arms off for CL football every year but, trust me, after a decade of nothingness at the end of seasons and the whole predictable nature of it all, it really gets tedious.

The same type of tippy-tappy soft footballers (mentally and physically) will win plenty of games against 14-15 of those sides but what's the point when the top 10 in Europe can cope easily against it. Where's the Gattuso or even the Wanyama?

The monotony of it all is infuriating. A bit like lasagna.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 18, 2014, 09:33:48 PM
The frustrating part is only showing urgency with 10 minutes to go. Sanchez is a beast. Never stops trying and working but getting no help. He also played late Wednesday night. Wilshere should be allowed try balls over top like with  England instead of the tippy tappy stuff. Flamini not good enough. Should have tried Hayden centre half. I see Piers Morgan calling for Klopp but their start more shocking than ours. Only one home win all season. We'll probably finish fourth go out in last 16 in Europe and repeat next year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 18, 2014, 10:46:04 PM
Everything should be about progression.

We believed Arsene was working wonders keeping them fourth after the Invincible period and with the debts. But...it's looking different now. They are getting further from the top table. Best players are leaving, replaced with middlins. His buys are suspect. If Ozil goes the way of Arshavin......

I would love nothing more than to see Arsene's philosophy vindicated once more. It's not going to happen. He got the big stadium. The most expensive season tickets.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on October 18, 2014, 11:07:26 PM
Shite club with manager that they are afraid to let go.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 18, 2014, 11:18:07 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 18, 2014, 10:46:04 PM
Everything should be about progression.

We believed Arsene was working wonders keeping them fourth after the Invincible period and with the debts. But...it's looking different now. They are getting further from the top table. Best players are leaving, replaced with middlins. His buys are suspect. If Ozil goes the way of Arshavin......

I would love nothing more than to see Arsene's philosophy vindicated once more. It's not going to happen. He got the big stadium. The most expensive season tickets.

The best players stopped leaving after Theo decided to stay put. Squad has been getting better the last two years. The drought was ended in May, it shouldn't be forgotten.

Arsenal fans really need to have a bit more respect for Wenger, easily the best manager in the history of the EPL after Hairdryer. Welbeck is looking like an absolute steal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 18, 2014, 11:46:30 PM
Yep. Everything you wrote there is 100% on the ball.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 19, 2014, 11:46:43 AM
Arsene getting a bit ratty:



http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29677078
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on October 19, 2014, 02:05:05 PM
To be fair he wasn't close to being as ignorant as Fergie (or indeed Jim mcGuinness) was with the  press.

All the same he knows the fans and the media are right. He has once again failed to inject steel into that team. The 2 CHs have nothing nasty about them at all. Both look like they would be more interested discussing recipes with opposition forwards than stopping them play.

Wilshire as a DMF...please. That's laughable. A petulant brat who whines non stop is the usual sum of his contributions recently. Hasn't progressed one iota from 4 years ago.

The shame is that a solid defensive midfielder and 2 commanding central defenders would make that team into real challengers. You could even get away with the current forward unit if there was steel along the spine.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 19, 2014, 04:55:02 PM
When did Jack play ever as a defensive midfielder for Arsenal? Wenger even said he should not be playing there for England.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on October 19, 2014, 07:10:27 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 19, 2014, 04:55:02 PM
When did Jack play ever as a defensive midfielder for Arsenal? Wenger even said he should not be playing there for England.

English media calling for it after his recent International displays....should never happen.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 22, 2014, 10:22:03 AM
David Ospina out for the Arsenal standard three months.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 22, 2014, 09:03:56 PM
0-0 after an hour.

Not sure if a shot on goal yet. Sanchez working his arse off again. Without him, I don't know.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 22, 2014, 09:20:37 PM
1-0 Anderlecht

Abysmal stuff.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 22, 2014, 09:32:26 PM
Smash and grab..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 22, 2014, 09:34:53 PM
You have to laugh.

The most wretched victory ever!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on October 22, 2014, 09:36:54 PM
Happy Birthday Arsene.

At least Fearon will avoid this thread for a while.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on October 22, 2014, 10:19:52 PM
Never in doubt. Would arsenal swap Sanchez for ballotelli? He could be yer fox in the box, and we'd get a striker that would run to warm himself.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 22, 2014, 10:23:53 PM
Wouldn't swap Sanchez for most players in world at moment. The most impressive thing is the workrate. If only other players followed his lead.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on October 22, 2014, 11:43:27 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0lX8f2IIAAma6g.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 23, 2014, 12:00:41 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/11177441/65-best-and-worst-decisions-of-Arsene-Wengers-career.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Never beat the deeler on October 23, 2014, 01:22:45 AM
Quote from: ONeill on October 23, 2014, 12:00:41 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/11177441/65-best-and-worst-decisions-of-Arsene-Wengers-career.html

Contradictory

Item 22 is given a thumbs down, but the description is almost entirely complimentary
QuoteOne of Wenger's great feats was to stay so competitive with Chelsea, Manchester United, Liverpool and Manchester City while virtually breaking even in his net transfer spend. His refusal to "just pay the fee" if he thought that fee was excessive might have been deeply frustrating and sometimes counter-productive but it has helped lay wonderful foundations for his successor.

Item 32 he is given a thumbs down for not winning ugly - but in item 44 they give a thumbs down for playing for penalties in a game they won!

Damned if you do.......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 24, 2014, 11:02:53 AM
Kos out for four weeks at least. Would prefer to see Chambers centre half rather than Monreal with Bellerin right back. Hayden should get a chance to. Van Gaal not afraid to give youth a chance with Mc Nair.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on October 25, 2014, 09:13:35 AM
Frimpong for all his chittering on social media says what many have been thinking.....

http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/23/emmanuel-frimpong-ruthlessly-attacks-arsene-wenger-over-arsenal-transfer-record-in-twitter-rant-4918237/

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 25, 2014, 01:28:18 PM
Sunderland hurting from last week. Gonna be 0-0.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 25, 2014, 01:52:53 PM
Wouldn't disagree. If the players showed some intensity like Sanchez might help. Mertesaker right we need to mix it up sometimes too. This ponderous passing on edge of box needs to stop.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 25, 2014, 03:34:32 PM
Nice little back pass from Wesley Brown there.

https://vine.co/v/OhFAQ0v3Bhw
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 25, 2014, 04:52:09 PM
And another gift by Manonne
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 25, 2014, 06:48:46 PM
Sanchez is carrying us.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 25, 2014, 08:05:53 PM
Five goals in eight EPL games - some luxury purchase Sanchez is alright.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 25, 2014, 08:21:03 PM
It's not just goals. Assists, distance covered, workrate. I've never seen a player work so hard with that talent. Like Kuyt but more talented. Clean sheet was another bonus.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on October 27, 2014, 01:33:45 PM
It was idiotic to call Sanchez a luxury purchase.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on October 27, 2014, 07:38:26 PM
Sanchez is doing well at the minute, probably the only Arsenal player showing consistency at a high level - however the fact remains Arsenal currently look no better than they were in the 2013 /14 season - still being comfortably beaten by the big teams and still as far away from the EPL and CL as they were last year (and the year before, and the year before).

If money was no object and Arsenal had no glaring problems sure - buy players like Sanchez to put the icing on the cake and give yet another attacking option  - however the point being made is that a commanding CH and a top class DMF were by far the bigger priorities this year.

If there was a budget however and other purchases were negatively affected by the 35mill shelled out - then Sanchez was a 'luxury' buy  - becasue he came at the expense of the aforementioned 2 key areas of need to add to an area where Arsenal were already ok.





Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on October 27, 2014, 07:51:49 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on October 27, 2014, 07:38:26 PM
Sanchez is doing well at the minute, probably the only Arsenal player showing consistency at a high level - however the fact remains Arsenal currently look no better than they were in the 2013 /14 season - still being comfortably beaten by the big teams and still as far away from the EPL and CL as they were last year (and the year before, and the year before).

If money was no object and Arsenal had no glaring problems sure - buy players like Sanchez to put the icing on the cake and give yet another attacking option  - however the point being made is that a commanding CH and a top class DMF were by far the bigger priorities this year.

If there was a budget however and other purchases were negatively affected by the 35mill shelled out - then Sanchez was a 'luxury' buy  - becasue he came at the expense of the aforementioned 2 key areas of need to add to an area where Arsenal were already ok.

Matic would have been an ideal purchase for Arsenal!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 27, 2014, 07:54:08 PM
Wenger said he tried to buy a centre half but couldn't find a suitable one. Utd struggled too to find one. Need an upgrade on holding midfielder but Sanchez is an upgrade on the attacking options.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 27, 2014, 08:17:02 PM
When Luke Shaw is worth the bones of 30 million sterling and the paperweight defender that is David Luiz going for 50 million how much do you think a top class CB would be? We're just in an age where defenders of substance are very rare, even for teams with an unlimited bankroll. John Terry still battling away at the heart of the best EPL team tells you that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 28, 2014, 02:11:19 PM
And then.. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/407124/Arsenal-in-the-clear-to-sign-Man-Utd-target-Mats-Hummels

Hummels would be more than worth the wait if Arsenal get him, and there is already plenty of familiarity with Mertesacker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 28, 2014, 03:48:14 PM
Please remove Daily Star tittle tattle from the Arsenal thread.

We have standards and you're lowering them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syferus on October 28, 2014, 04:02:18 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 28, 2014, 03:48:14 PM
Please remove Daily Star tittle tattle from the Arsenal thread.

We have standards and you're lowering them.

Was also in the Daily Mail.. :-*
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: blewuporstuffed on October 28, 2014, 04:07:13 PM
Quote from: Syferus on October 27, 2014, 08:17:02 PM
When Luke Shaw is worth the bones of 30 million sterling and the paperweight defender that is David Luiz going for 50 million how much do you think a top class CB would be? We're just in an age where defenders of substance are very rare, even for teams with an unlimited bankroll. John Terry still battling away at the heart of the best EPL team tells you that.
Carragher made the point on MNF last night that clubs seem to want to just throw moneya t big name centrebacks to try and solve defensive issues rather than work with the defence.
Alot of defenders over the last year or so bought for big money have been flops (or at elast have still alot to prove)
Shaw, lovren,mangala, sahko, Rojo etc
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 02, 2014, 11:10:08 AM
What a worker Sanchez is. Trying to think of a player who put the same effort in as him for Arsenal and you have to go back to Parlour, Ljungberg or Vieira.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 02, 2014, 02:03:36 PM
Actually played a 442 yesterday to get more players in box. Better than a 4141. A change in tactics by Wenger. Amazing. Now if he could be a bit more defensive against the bigger teams. Sanchez is unreal. The pressure he puts defenders under is class.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on November 04, 2014, 09:37:45 PM
 ;D  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2014, 09:40:30 PM
Arsenal are Back!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on November 04, 2014, 09:41:59 PM
Fall apart as soon as Arteta goes off,same old
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on November 04, 2014, 09:44:28 PM
Spineless.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2014, 09:49:27 PM
Sanchez must be going through the same process as Ozil did last year - 'what's the point'.

Arsenal deserved nothing out there 3 weeks ago so it evened out.

But, Jaysus.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 04, 2014, 09:51:32 PM
Bring on Walcott and finish the game of. Poor substitutions. Carzola shouldn't have started. Looks knackered and can't buy a goal at the minute.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2014, 09:57:38 PM
But at 3-0 the game was finished off. Ramsey's form is off the radar. Flamini is done. Monreal is a very average defender.

Arsenal can have all the attacking flair they want but if they remain so brittle in defence it means nothing.

Anderlecht are one of the worst teams in the CL and they can do that. They haven't a hope in hell of beating any side in the top 10 in Europe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 04, 2014, 10:01:51 PM
So liverpool win 0-1 and arsenal lose 3-3. Is that the narrative tonight?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2014, 10:04:49 PM
Liverpool played Kerry. Arsenal took on Tattyreagh U12s.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 04, 2014, 10:05:00 PM
I meant instead of Rosicky and Podolski. Arteta loss when went of. Per being playing poorly. Unfair to criticise Monreal. Playing out of position.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2014, 10:10:09 PM
I've seen Monreal plenty of times in position. He's average. Gibbs is an OK defender. Mertesecker's best days are well behind him. Arteta and Flamini are never league-winning protection. Yet Arsene still refuses to strengthen.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 04, 2014, 10:15:00 PM
Monreal only back up defender. Per only 30 plenty of years in him. Just needs to get out of his slump. Big mistake not buying but Wenger said he tried.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on November 04, 2014, 10:20:04 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 04, 2014, 10:15:00 PM
Monreal only back up defender. Per only 30 plenty of years in him. Just needs to get out of his slump. Big mistake not buying but Wenger said he tried.

eats
shoots
&
leaves
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2014, 10:23:08 PM
There's no aggression in that defensive unit. Campbell, Toure, Lauren and Cole would have taken ball and man. Today it was Alexis and even Welbeck clearing the ball in their own box. Mertesecker was gassed by Low this year when he saw the deterioration and moreorless retired the man at 29. Koscielny isn't the answer either.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on November 04, 2014, 10:27:32 PM
https://twitter.com/1laneonly/status/529756532314226688
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2014, 10:28:34 PM
53 years Tony. 53.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 04, 2014, 10:37:04 PM
Play Bellerin right back Chambers centre half and put Kos back in when fit. Get to January and buy straight away. Should have target identified now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on November 05, 2014, 01:06:02 AM
Home draw, not the worst possible result.
How many first choice players missing.
Debuchy, Koscielny, Walcott, Ozil, Wilshire, Giroud.
While I appreciate that all these players probably wouldn't have started tonight. I think thay the ideal team selection would have been
Sczechney, Debuchy, Mertsacker, Koscielny,Gibbs, Arteta, Ramsey,Walcott, Ozil, Sanchez & Giroud. With Chambers, Wilshire, Oxlande-chamberlain & Wellback as subs.
Like everyone else apart from Arsene I see the need for another central defender, I don't think the gunners are too far away from being genuine contenders.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on November 05, 2014, 06:28:51 AM
Windmill,they were 3 nil up at home to Anderlecht and only drew! Genuine contenders for what? Next year's Capital Cup?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on November 09, 2014, 05:49:56 PM
The logic of playing a tragically poor LB, with no physical presence at CH is laughable. More incompetence from Wenger.

And for all the papers talk up this 'vaunted' attacking force Arsenal are.........not much evidence
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 09, 2014, 05:59:24 PM
Bunch of wankers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tiempo on November 09, 2014, 06:51:05 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on November 09, 2014, 05:49:56 PM
The logic of playing a tragically poor LB, with no physical presence at CH is laughable. More incompetence from Wenger.

And for all the papers talk up this 'vaunted' attacking force Arsenal are.........not much evidence

A couple of seasons ago wenger stumbled across sagna as a competent 3rd/4th choice CB in a game v sunderland when he had no other options, he now reckons any half assed full back can do it, i've been saying since monreal first went there in the charity shield that it would end in tears, an absolute half job if ever there was one. what is the point having reserves/u21s etc if they will never get promoted e.g. how LVG promoted mcnair and he's doing ok, surely the arsenal teenage cb's must have some understanding of the position and would perhaps be able to cope. i think he'll probably buy another attacking midfielder next and promote oxlade chamberlain or cazorla to full back/centre half, sure f**k it why not
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on November 09, 2014, 06:52:50 PM
What did Wenger say about Merson ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on November 09, 2014, 07:11:58 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/11218893/Arsenal-manager-Arsene-Wenger-brands-Paul-Merson-a-joke-for-his-outspoken-attack-on-clubs-defence.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: StGallsGAA on November 09, 2014, 07:13:26 PM
He also suggested Merson should stick to what he 'nose' best!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on November 09, 2014, 09:23:21 PM
So you have a very tall CH playing RB getting roasted for speed. You have a small LB playing CH, winning nothing in the air.

Then on the bench you have a natural RB who has just broken Walcotts 40m sprint record......

What does Wenger do......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 09, 2014, 10:43:13 PM
Y'know - people say he's stubborn.

He's not. His judgement is shot, especially during game time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on November 22, 2014, 05:55:34 PM
Arsenal should be two or three up at this stage
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GJL on November 22, 2014, 06:18:24 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 22, 2014, 05:55:34 PM
Arsenal should be two or three up at this stage
They should. Could also be a man down.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pullhard on November 22, 2014, 06:24:37 PM
Quote from: GJL on November 22, 2014, 06:18:24 PM
Quote from: laoislad on November 22, 2014, 05:55:34 PM
Arsenal should be two or three up at this stage
They should. Should also be a man down.

Clear headbutt ref bottled it. Worse looking Utd team i've seen
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 22, 2014, 06:51:11 PM
Poor goal for Arsenal to give away. DeGea the most overworked keeper in the premier league.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on November 22, 2014, 07:10:03 PM
Worst Utd team in over 2 decades. Arsenal still bottling it. Still don't have players with anything about them.

Arteta once again proving he should never be near that first 11

Wenger should walk if he has any pride. A complete fcking joke of a team
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on November 22, 2014, 07:13:03 PM
Game totally dominated by Arsenal and they are 2-0 down.
Crazy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 22, 2014, 07:21:18 PM
Very wasteful Arsenal and caught out badly for that second goal. Di Maria should have made it 0-3 there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 22, 2014, 07:26:58 PM
Arsenal knows what has to be done.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BennyCake on November 22, 2014, 07:38:13 PM
Arsenal can have as much of the ball as they want but they never looked like putting the ball in the net. That was the difference.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: StGallsGAA on November 22, 2014, 07:50:47 PM
Every Arsenal player ever signed by Wenger  must have nightmares about United!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pullhard on November 22, 2014, 07:55:21 PM
Setting things up nicely before a good run to take 4th place.

Talksport doing a poll asking if fans want the arse out, most fans saying aye.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 22, 2014, 08:08:23 PM
Wenger out. I was in the Wenger camp till now but he will not learn new tricks. That was a shocking bad Utd team and still lost to tactics Utd beat us with 7 8 years ago. Too simplistic to blame Arteta. Look at his interception stats and passing. All going forward when only 1 down is suicidal. Still trying to pass it in. Can't or won't organise a defence. Too much control of whole club and no one challenges him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on November 22, 2014, 11:38:04 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on November 22, 2014, 07:10:03 PM
Worst Utd team in over 2 decades. Arsenal still bottling it. Still don't have players with anything about them.

Arteta once again proving he should never be near that first 11

Wenger should walk if he has any pride. A complete fcking joke of a team

Were we watching the same game?Seriously?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2014, 12:15:12 AM
And we know that Arsenal might ride this period and probably finish top 4.

Even though that's a dream come true for many clubs, it's a worsening stalemate for Arsenal.

I'd rather finish outside the top 6 but witness a new brand of football and footballer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on November 23, 2014, 12:25:34 AM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on November 22, 2014, 07:50:47 PM
Every Arsenal player ever signed by Wenger  must have nightmares about United!!

What age are you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvl1lqUeowQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvl1lqUeowQ)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GJL on November 23, 2014, 08:47:21 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 23, 2014, 12:15:12 AM
And we know that Arsenal might ride this period and probably finish top 4.

Even though that's a dream come true for many clubs, it's a worsening stalemate for Arsenal.

I'd rather finish outside the top 6 but witness a new brand of football and footballer.

I'm not sure they will this year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on November 23, 2014, 09:34:17 AM
Quote from: beer baron on November 22, 2014, 11:38:04 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on November 22, 2014, 07:10:03 PM
Worst Utd team in over 2 decades. Arsenal still bottling it. Still don't have players with anything about them.

Arteta once again proving he should never be near that first 11

Wenger should walk if he has any pride. A complete fcking joke of a team

Were we watching the same game?Seriously?

Absolutely. Can't tackle. Passes sideways. Offers nothing. The perfect captain for sterile domination. Arteta is the embodiment of a 6/10 player. Doesn't drive the team on. Doesn't score (penalties aside). Doesn't create. The only asset he has is pass accuracy but they are all so ineffectual it's immaterial and yesterday his passing was idiotic at times, firing first touch (sideways of course) ball into Ox when Ox was double marked.

I understand the way some managers will need a metronome player, someone to keep ticking things over, recycling the ball, moving it on but the good ones all have some sense of purpose. Arteta appears happy to hit 2-3 yard passes ad infinitum.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: theticklemister on November 23, 2014, 09:39:51 AM
Was at my first ever soccer game yesterday against utd at the emirates. Some stadium
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on November 23, 2014, 10:03:32 AM
Football's a funny old game,people see things so much differently at times. That's what makes it fun.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 23, 2014, 12:24:09 PM
Arteta is a holding midfielder. It's up to Ramsey and Jack to take game by scruff of the neck. Arteta yesterday had quite a few turnovers. He done his job. Other players deserve criticism but the easy option to blame Arteta.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on November 23, 2014, 04:38:39 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 23, 2014, 12:24:09 PM
Arteta is a holding midfielder. It's up to Ramsey and Jack to take game by scruff of the neck. Arteta yesterday had quite a few turnovers. He done his job. Other players deserve criticism but the easy option to blame Arteta.

According to the match stats Arteta had 2 successful tackles and 1 interception. The majority of his passes were to Monreal (12). It's easy to criticise him when he does so little.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on November 23, 2014, 04:45:54 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on November 23, 2014, 04:38:39 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 23, 2014, 12:24:09 PM
Arteta is a holding midfielder. It's up to Ramsey and Jack to take game by scruff of the neck. Arteta yesterday had quite a few turnovers. He done his job. Other players deserve criticism but the easy option to blame Arteta.

According to the match stats Arteta had 2 successful tackles and 1 interception. The majority of his passes were to Monreal (12). It's easy to criticise him when he does so little.

Proof if ever it were needed to not rely too heavily on stats. Off the top of my head Arteta won the ball off DI Maria 2 or 3 times,Rvp,Fellaini and Rooney
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on November 23, 2014, 05:40:12 PM
Quote from: beer baron on November 23, 2014, 04:45:54 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on November 23, 2014, 04:38:39 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 23, 2014, 12:24:09 PM
Arteta is a holding midfielder. It's up to Ramsey and Jack to take game by scruff of the neck. Arteta yesterday had quite a few turnovers. He done his job. Other players deserve criticism but the easy option to blame Arteta.

According to the match stats Arteta had 2 successful tackles and 1 interception. The majority of his passes were to Monreal (12). It's easy to criticise him when he does so little.

Proof if ever it were needed to not rely too heavily on stats. Off the top of my head Arteta won the ball off DI Maria 2 or 3 times,Rvp,Fellaini and Rooney

We must have been watching different games.

But let me put it another way......Arsenal maintain they have EPL and CL winning ambitions...could you honestly see any of their rivals giving Arteta a sniff of the first 11 let alone making him captain? His continued use tells everything about Arsenal.

Would he get a game with Chelsea...no, City.....no, Barca...no, Real....no, Athletic M.....no, Bayern.....no..,.PSG.....no....while he was a capable mid table player with Everton in his prime he would not get near a side who have the capability of winning a major trophy now. He wouldn't get in the current Southampton side ffs.

That's not to excuse Ramsey and Wilshire et al either but in my mind a lot of the blame lies with Wenger. It's clear the type of players (and tactics) needed to win big games but Wenger continues to ignore this.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 23, 2014, 05:57:52 PM
I'm not saying he's a world beater. Far too easy to make him scapegoat. Welbeck has 2 league goals. Other players not scoring. To blame one player is wrong. Defence a joke. No hunger or tactics but that's all one players fault.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on November 23, 2014, 05:58:29 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on November 23, 2014, 05:40:12 PM
Quote from: beer baron on November 23, 2014, 04:45:54 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on November 23, 2014, 04:38:39 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 23, 2014, 12:24:09 PM
Arteta is a holding midfielder. It's up to Ramsey and Jack to take game by scruff of the neck. Arteta yesterday had quite a few turnovers. He done his job. Other players deserve criticism but the easy option to blame Arteta.

According to the match stats Arteta had 2 successful tackles and 1 interception. The majority of his passes were to Monreal (12). It's easy to criticise him when he does so little.

Proof if ever it were needed to not rely too heavily on stats. Off the top of my head Arteta won the ball off DI Maria 2 or 3 times,Rvp,Fellaini and Rooney

We must have been watching different games.

But let me put it another way......Arsenal maintain they have EPL and CL winning ambitions...could you honestly see any of their rivals giving Arteta a sniff of the first 11 let alone making him captain? His continued use tells everything about Arsenal.

Would he get a game with Chelsea...no, City.....no, Barca...no, Real....no, Athletic M.....no, Bayern.....no..,.PSG.....no....while he was a capable mid table player with Everton in his prime he would not get near a side who have the capability of winning a major trophy now. He wouldn't get in the current Southampton side ffs.

That's not to excuse Ramsey and Wilshire et al either but in my mind a lot of the blame lies with Wenger. It's clear the type of players (and tactics) needed to win big games but Wenger continues to ignore this.
As bad a case of voyeurism since....
Tyrone backwoods women have lost whatever it is that they have?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 26, 2014, 07:48:29 PM
Positive vibes. Positive vibes.Positive vibes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 26, 2014, 07:55:37 PM
Sanogo!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on November 26, 2014, 08:34:33 PM
Well.....no one saw that coming....lol
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 26, 2014, 08:41:00 PM
I didn't even see him playing but scoring well with French u21s. Arteta is playing well. Keeping it ticking over and some of Arsenal's passing is excellent. Ramsey still struggling. Gibbs and Chambers going forward well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 26, 2014, 08:57:30 PM
What a goal Sanchez!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 26, 2014, 08:58:12 PM
Although Dortmund aren't up for this atall.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 26, 2014, 09:55:10 PM
Pity we didn't get a third. Outside chance of topping group then.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 26, 2014, 09:58:18 PM
Even with a 2nd place, Groups C and H are attractive draws.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 26, 2014, 10:09:50 PM
But its arsenal. Bayern barcelona or real.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on November 27, 2014, 05:08:42 PM
A Wenger vintage first goal and a special bit of quality for the second. I didn't watch the game though.
Regardless of Arsenal's current  state of affairs they would be next to last on any group winner's wish list of last 16 opponents.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 02, 2014, 11:22:16 PM
It'd be sorta nice to beat Southampton tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on December 03, 2014, 06:51:16 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 27, 2014, 05:08:42 PM
A Wenger vintage first goal and a special bit of quality for the second. I didn't watch the game though.
Regardless of Arsenal's current  state of affairs they would be next to last on any group winner's wish list of last 16 opponents.

Juventus, Barcelona, Roma / Man City....all in second place right now......

Arsenal have more than enough about them to spring a last 16 surprise but I don't think the consistency is there to do it again after that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 03, 2014, 10:25:59 PM
Giroud made a massive difference coming on. Holds the ball up well but also clever in and around the box.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 03, 2014, 10:35:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 03, 2014, 10:25:59 PM
Giroud made a massive difference coming on. Holds the ball up well but also clever in and around the box.

  He s fond of a 'box' alright !!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on December 04, 2014, 10:33:17 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on December 03, 2014, 06:51:16 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 27, 2014, 05:08:42 PM
A Wenger vintage first goal and a special bit of quality for the second. I didn't watch the game though.
Regardless of Arsenal's current  state of affairs they would be next to last on any group winner's wish list of last 16 opponents.

Juventus, Barcelona, Roma / Man City....all in second place right now......

Arsenal have more than enough about them to spring a last 16 surprise but I don't think the consistency is there to do it again after that.
You have an opinion that Arsenal are possibly a 4th best team in the 2nd pot of the last 16 and you doubt they can get any further?
I don't really care whether my opinion (that they are the 2nd best team in that pot)  is more or less accurate than yours. As I remember it, the Highbury area was a red bricked shthole, alongside a soulless Finsbury pk. I suppose there are people from Highbury and the immediate environs who identify strongly with Arsenal fc, I'm not one of them.
But I do have some hope that your fancied team, Arsenal, do better than your prediction.




Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on December 05, 2014, 06:09:55 AM
Quote from: Main Street on December 04, 2014, 10:33:17 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on December 03, 2014, 06:51:16 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 27, 2014, 05:08:42 PM
A Wenger vintage first goal and a special bit of quality for the second. I didn't watch the game though.
Regardless of Arsenal's current  state of affairs they would be next to last on any group winner's wish list of last 16 opponents.

Juventus, Barcelona, Roma / Man City....all in second place right now......

Arsenal have more than enough about them to spring a last 16 surprise but I don't think the consistency is there to do it again after that.
You have an opinion that Arsenal are possibly a 4th best team in the 2nd pot of the last 16 and you doubt they can get any further?
I don't really care whether my opinion (that they are the 2nd best team in that pot)  is more or less accurate than yours. As I remember it, the Highbury area was a red bricked shthole, alongside a soulless Finsbury pk. I suppose there are people from Highbury and the immediate environs who identify strongly with Arsenal fc, I'm not one of them.
But I do have some hope that your fancied team, Arsenal, do better than your prediction.

Don't really understand the highbury point to to be honest and if you read what I posted I said Arsenal could indeed get beyond the next round but prob don't have enough consistency to go beyond that.

Still. It's all just opinion.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 06, 2014, 05:30:17 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkmhznNCUAAHDPU.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 06, 2014, 07:30:23 PM
You are caught between an Arse and a Harte place.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballinaman on December 06, 2014, 08:10:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/embed/B5wE-Ybr14A

*popcorn*
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 06, 2014, 08:39:53 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on December 06, 2014, 08:10:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/embed/B5wE-Ybr14A

*popcorn*
lolz..

We were 3-0 down to a pub side....wake up and smell the coffee...Where's the coffee?
;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on December 06, 2014, 08:42:47 PM
Imagine going to game with matching headphone/water bottle set.   ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GJL on December 06, 2014, 08:48:55 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on December 06, 2014, 08:42:47 PM
Imagine going to game with matching headphone/water bottle set.   ;D

Can you imagne what his bedroom looks like.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 06, 2014, 08:58:24 PM
Apparently Arsenal fans were kicking lumps out of each other after the game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 07, 2014, 04:52:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 06, 2014, 08:58:24 PM
Apparently Arsenal fans were kicking lumps out of each other after the game

Take 4 of them and play them at the back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 07, 2014, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 06, 2014, 08:58:24 PM
Apparently Arsenal fans were kicking lumps out of each other after the game

This has being going on a while even at games. Huge divide now between pro and anti Wenger faction.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 09, 2014, 09:42:23 PM
Arsene in!

Tune in next week when........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 09, 2014, 10:47:14 PM
Still Arsene out. Just against the abuse.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 13, 2014, 08:21:12 PM
Comfortable for the majority.

Good work ethic since the Stoke game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pullhard on December 13, 2014, 08:36:03 PM
same idiots on talksport now want wenger to stay!

Great win
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on December 15, 2014, 11:24:59 AM
Nice draw getting Monaco 8)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 15, 2014, 11:32:05 AM
And Dortmund got Juve!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GJL on December 15, 2014, 12:02:35 PM
Bye Bye City!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 21, 2014, 04:18:30 PM
Arsenal can't get near the ball. Impressive possession football from Liverpool first 20.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on December 21, 2014, 04:20:44 PM
80% some possession
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 21, 2014, 04:25:33 PM
Better than 4-0 down I suppose after 20.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 21, 2014, 04:43:09 PM
Gunners out on Black Eye Friday?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on December 21, 2014, 04:45:30 PM
Pathetic.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 21, 2014, 04:50:08 PM
If Liverpool had any teeth they'd be out of sight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on December 21, 2014, 05:56:24 PM
Mert AWOL again. Extra man and still contrive to fcuk things up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 21, 2014, 06:20:40 PM
Meh.

When is the Gaa back?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on December 21, 2014, 07:31:50 PM
Mad to think there's still people out there that reckon this is the best league in the world.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 26, 2014, 07:27:42 PM
Get over the line but crazy from Giroud. Stupid stupid stupid
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 26, 2014, 09:13:42 PM
Brilliant from Giroud. More of that please.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on December 28, 2014, 03:49:25 PM
How the Arse are leading 2-0 is beyond me.  West Ham all over them most of that half. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 28, 2014, 04:57:37 PM
Talk about hanging on. Good results elsewhere. Alexis is some operator - works his arse off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 28, 2014, 08:37:16 PM
Hung on but had lots of chances to finish it of. Coquelin is a good addition to squad. Podolski must be for the exit. Not played yet over Christmas.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tiempo on December 29, 2014, 12:04:54 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 28, 2014, 08:37:16 PM
Hung on but had lots of chances to finish it of. Coquelin is a good addition to squad. Podolski must be for the exit. Not played yet over Christmas.

Good bit of lower league scouting to sign the boy from charlton........ or a complete lack of strategy re defensive midfield. Le Coq was always decent and game
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 29, 2014, 12:26:45 AM
Or just recall from loan. Maybe an upgrade on Flamini. Certainly in games like today versus physical team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tiempo on December 29, 2014, 05:30:38 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 29, 2014, 12:26:45 AM
Or just recall from loan. Maybe an upgrade on Flamini. Certainly in games like today versus physical team.

Yeah i know he was a recall. How is a player deemed good enough to play away at liverpool and west ham sent to charlton in the first place, especially in light of how poor arteta, diaby and flamini have been. Wenger hasnt a clue. There is a run of games now to make a bit of hay, i'd say a few more wins in Jan and he'll convince himself not to buy anyone til summer
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 29, 2014, 11:27:14 AM
Still only an option. He's not the option. Matic at Chelsea is on another level to what we have. He only recalled because of injuries. There probably is no long term future for him at club.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tiempo on December 29, 2014, 01:47:34 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 29, 2014, 11:27:14 AM
Still only an option. He's not the option. Matic at Chelsea is on another level to what we have. He only recalled because of injuries. There probably is no long term future for him at club.

If you look at Le Coqs career trajectory Wenger obviously doesnt fancy him, yet he is still there or there abouts and arguably a better player than our captain. Its these kind of shite strategies by wenger that are so annoying. Meanwhile we lose successive captains to barca x2 and utd while recruiting the likes of silvestre, kallstrom, park, etc etc. I got bored of it the year we lost the league at birmingham. In the 9 year barren spell the goonas could have won the league 3 times
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2014, 09:53:54 PM
Coq is fine. Not a Gilberto.

Pity about Podolski. Looks like he's away. Thought there was an Indian Summer in him but Arsene sees a lot more than we do.

A win at Soton would be a massive result.....hard to believe that's the standard now....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on December 29, 2014, 10:37:15 PM
A win at Southampton would have been regarded as massive, by any Arsenal team in the Wenger era, as any Arsenal fan should know. I think they have only beaten Southampton once at the Dell.
Such are the standards Arsenal aspire towards since the Wenger era begun.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2014, 10:59:46 PM
No, it was never massive. It was always expected. A bit like at Stoke or Wigan. Didn't happen but not massive as in at Madrid or Milan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2014, 11:04:27 PM
Arsenal won at Southampton in '97, '99 and 01 under Arsene and drew most of the others. In fact, Soton haven't won at home v Arsenal in 12 years.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 01, 2015, 03:53:10 PM
Szczesney go fcuk yerself.

Le Coq was playing well and it was comfortable.

Then the Pole throws a wobbler.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on January 01, 2015, 04:24:56 PM
No point complaining about performances when Arsenal continue to staff themselves with second rate players. Only Sanchez out of today's team would get near the City or Chelsea first 11 (and even then not an automatic) and he would be nowhere near first choice at Madrid or Bayern.

Ozil is world class but played out of position nearly every match.

Wenger.....time to go
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 02, 2015, 03:51:34 AM
Time to open the transfer window and let some of these clowns jump out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syferus on January 02, 2015, 04:56:21 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on January 01, 2015, 04:24:56 PM
No point complaining about performances when Arsenal continue to staff themselves with second rate players. Only Sanchez out of today's team would get near the City or Chelsea first 11 (and even then not an automatic) and he would be nowhere near first choice at Madrid or Bayern.

Ozil is world class but played out of position nearly every match.

Wenger.....time to go

Sanchez is probably in the top five players in the EPL. World class talent and application. That is an incredibly rare mix.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on January 04, 2015, 07:24:04 PM
What was that fool Wenger at getting Sanchez? A luxury you cant afford poor signing  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on January 04, 2015, 07:46:31 PM
Quote from: beer baron on January 04, 2015, 07:24:04 PM
What was that fool Wenger at getting Sanchez? A luxury you cant afford poor signing  ;D

Playing well certainly but still a luxury buy at the time given the forward talent Arsenal had at their disposal.

35mill spent on a proper DMF and CH would have left Arsenal in a much more solid position. For all Sanchez does to drag Arsenal through games they would be better served with a balanced team where they could grind out 1-0 rather than put all eggs in one basket.

When it comes to playing City, Chelsea, Utd.....Sanchez is not enough.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 04, 2015, 08:25:41 PM
Alexis will jump ship at the end of the year if he sees nothing happening in the transfer market.

You see him shaking his head at the crap he's trying to play with.

When Ramsey, Ozil and Wilshere are fit he'll be in better company but for every goal they score they're liable to concede the same amount. He really is single-handedly dragging Arsenal along with a bit of help from Cazorla.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 04, 2015, 10:20:37 PM
Rumours Szczesny has played last game for club. Wenger unhappy with his attitude after Southampton game and fined him. Source is John Jensen who is still good friends with Bould.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 04, 2015, 11:32:14 PM
Szczesny had the makings of a keeper but years behind a nervous backline has riddled him with uncertainty.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 04, 2015, 11:34:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 04, 2015, 11:32:14 PM
Szczesny had the makings of a keeper but years behind a nervous backline has riddled him with uncertainty.

But he's prone to the odd brain fart moment.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 18, 2015, 11:11:47 AM
Well what do yis think? Another early collapse and subsequent hammering?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on January 18, 2015, 12:40:16 PM
[Well what do yis think? Another early collapse and subsequent hammering?]

Hopefully O'Neill. With  the saints winning yesterday United need to see Arsenal take a fall.   A dose of ebola, cholera  or the likes for Sanchez too please! ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on January 18, 2015, 03:50:40 PM
Arsenal for the win,Mertesacker for man of the match. No joking  8) Ive a fiver on Mertesacker for man of the match for an interest,he's not the awful defender he's made out to be the past 2 months,just had a few poor games where he played like a big girls blouse,still as good a reader of the game as most centre halves about for me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 18, 2015, 04:30:23 PM
Blow it up ref.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 18, 2015, 05:19:22 PM
Wenger using tactics. Wow.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on January 18, 2015, 05:33:46 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 18, 2015, 05:19:22 PM
Wenger using tactics. Wow.

Need another 3 goals here to be sure.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on January 18, 2015, 05:45:22 PM
Carzola has been outstanding!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syferus on January 18, 2015, 06:14:05 PM
Wenger out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on January 18, 2015, 06:31:37 PM
Hopefully penny has finally dropped. Wenger may finally got a plan b.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 18, 2015, 07:13:06 PM
Finally, a plan. Just caught up on it. Good performances from Bellerin and Monreal as well as Le Coq who made the centre backs' jobs a little easier. Still too stretched at times but about time they swallowed their pride and defended. Ox hasn't a clue where his feet and ball are going and messes up a few counters. Alexis harried all day and ran out of puff as did Ramsey. Cazorla in his best form.

City looked sluggish.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 01, 2015, 10:56:59 PM
Doin alright I spose.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on February 01, 2015, 11:20:32 PM
White Hart Lane on Saturday! Bring it on! ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 07, 2015, 11:14:30 PM
Bollocks to that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 07, 2015, 11:15:46 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 07, 2015, 11:14:30 PM
Bollocks to that.

No Harte.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on February 21, 2015, 06:14:51 PM
Turd.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 21, 2015, 11:41:06 PM
Good to see Chambers getting a bit of help. Le Coq and Cazorla screened him all day.

Walcott's days numbered? The injury has seen him fall a bit in the pecking order. Take £30m?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 22, 2015, 08:47:21 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 21, 2015, 11:41:06 PM
Good to see Chambers getting a bit of help. Le Coq and Cazorla screened him all day.

Walcott's days numbered? The injury has seen him fall a bit in the pecking order. Take £30m?

Definitely think he's on his way out. His contract is up in 18 months and he's currently on 100k a week.There's no way he deserves a pay rise based on injuries and performance. He'll likely end up at City/Chelsea /United and score for fun though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on February 25, 2015, 08:07:15 PM
No early goal for Arsenal, they could hv done with one. Monaco will not be winning the Champions League.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 25, 2015, 09:18:40 PM
As Arsenal a performance as you'll see
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 25, 2015, 09:37:28 PM
Great result for Monaco a fourth place side in France. Another early champions league exit for Arsenal by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on February 25, 2015, 09:42:09 PM
...Wenger didn't look to happy getting booed  at the end!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 25, 2015, 09:47:21 PM
A tactically inept performance mixed in with an off night for Giroud. Welbeck is no more a striker than a lamppost. Ozil needs the road. No heart no desire.

Sanchez ran about but it was inevitable he couldn't carry them all season.

Mertesacker proved again he is inept as a leader or player at a decent level. He may have Caps for Germany but he also has exceptional players round him there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on February 25, 2015, 10:50:15 PM
They can now concentrate on finishing 4th in the Premier League so they can be knocked out in the 2nd round again next year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 26, 2015, 09:33:06 PM
Still ripping.

So angry this morning I let no one spake til midday.

Gutless, spineless, leaderless, rudderless, useless.

Predictable and tired. And that's me.

Please Arsene - for your own sake - give yourself a new challenge.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on March 09, 2015, 10:25:56 PM
That was a mildly interesting game for a neutral  like myself, Wenger again stands tall amongst the hustle  bustle and his critics but man of the match tonight was the ref, who was inspirational.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 10, 2015, 12:01:31 AM
Average performance against an average team. 10 years ago.....so much talent.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on March 10, 2015, 09:04:55 PM
10 years ago???   in Manchester    Man Utd 2 Arsenal 0

Arsene endures,  Man Utd don't.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 14, 2015, 05:55:57 PM
The most comfortable game of the season. Would have been 10-0 only Walcott started. Cash in on Theo now Arsene. Get £20m and buy a nice coat.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: clarshack on March 17, 2015, 08:38:35 PM
monaco all over the place in the 1st half. arsenal could have had about 3 already and look like scoring every time they go forward.
will likely end up a 2-0 glorious failure though. must be frustrating to be an arsenal fan...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on March 17, 2015, 08:39:58 PM
I think Arsenal will get 3 or 4,keep things in anyway organised at the back and you'll go through i reckon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 17, 2015, 08:56:43 PM
Not sure why Ozil getting so much grief and Sanchez getting a free pas. Sanchez has been woeful tonight. Ozil at least trying to keep things moving.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on March 17, 2015, 09:26:38 PM
Is Bono an Arsenal fan?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on March 17, 2015, 09:31:12 PM
The kitchen sink is on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 17, 2015, 09:38:37 PM
Sometimes you need a sh1tty goal! Arsenal just try to score to precise a goal!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on March 17, 2015, 09:39:14 PM
Couldn't be any more Arsenal if it was scripted.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 17, 2015, 09:39:42 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on March 17, 2015, 09:41:04 PM
That was as frantic as 15 mins of football as you'll witness.  I was on tenterhooks as a neutral so can't imagine what it was like as an arse fan. Talk about getting put thru the wringer!!

Wtf Monaco were at not keeping a man on the halfway line as a breakout??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 17, 2015, 09:42:20 PM
It's 1999
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on March 17, 2015, 09:53:05 PM
Get on over to the other game folks,could be penalties coming.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: clarshack on March 17, 2015, 09:55:04 PM
said on saturday nite to somebody that arsenal would win 2-0. didnt put money on it though  :(

thought the analysts were very lazy in their arguments. kept going on about how the best team didnt go through (they just seemed to be basing it on tonights performance), but monaco played arsenal off the park in the first leg. if arsenal were complacent in the first leg then monaco were just as bad tonight. the monaco psychology was all wrong just like bayern a couple of years ago - thought they just had to turn up in the 2nd leg.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 17, 2015, 10:04:32 PM
Bono is now lobbying UEFA to have Monaco's first leg result in London cancelled >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on March 18, 2015, 11:32:26 AM
Quote from: clarshack on March 17, 2015, 09:55:04 PM
said on saturday nite to somebody that arsenal would win 2-0. didnt put money on it though  :(

thought the analysts were very lazy in their arguments. kept going on about how the best team didnt go through (they just seemed to be basing it on tonights performance), but monaco played arsenal off the park in the first leg. if arsenal were complacent in the first leg then monaco were just as bad tonight. the monaco psychology was all wrong just like bayern a couple of years ago - thought they just had to turn up in the 2nd leg.
How about, instead of thinking they just had to turn up, more probably they didn't know what game to play. Monaco were just a bundle of nerves  who for the most part  couldn't hold onto the ball, who kept giving the ball back to Arsenal, in dangerous areas. And it was their generally solid defence who handed Arsenal their 2nd goal life line on a plate, with an atrocious piece of panic defending.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on April 04, 2015, 08:45:19 PM
Arsenal have an impressive Coq.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 04, 2015, 10:16:14 PM
That wasn't too bad today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on April 05, 2015, 06:39:15 AM
Same old same old.No trophies,qualify for Champions league,Eliminated in last 16= No progress
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on April 05, 2015, 08:12:26 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on April 05, 2015, 06:39:15 AM
Same old same old.No trophies,qualify for Champions league,Eliminated in last 16= No progress

Better than No trophies, don't qualify for Champions league = no progress though eh?

Shame to hear the FA cup is no longer a trophy too. When was it Pluto'd?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syferus on April 05, 2015, 01:15:22 PM
Wenger out. Arsenal winning too many matches.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 07, 2015, 11:28:12 PM
Ah we're used to this.

When results aren't really in the melting pot Arsenal breeze past opponents. Usually Aug-Nov and March-May. It's the sticky bit in between when it all turns to shite and Arsenal exit everything worthwhile. It has always been that way. Check the Old Testament.

Even last year, against Wigan (penalties) and Hull(2-0 down) in the semi and final they almost cocked it up with a wee bit of pressure on them.

It'd be nice to beat Chelsea though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 08, 2015, 02:31:46 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 07, 2015, 11:28:12 PM
Ah we're used to this.

When results aren't really in the melting pot Arsenal breeze past opponents. Usually Aug-Nov and March-May. It's the sticky bit in between when it all turns to shite and Arsenal exit everything worthwhile. It has always been that way. Check the Old Testament.

Even last year, against Wigan (penalties) and Hull(2-0 down) in the semi and final they almost cocked it up with a wee bit of pressure on them.

It'd be nice to beat Chelsea though.

If ever Josie is going to lose to Arsene........

But Tony, come in Tony!

Granted St. Totteringham's is imminent, but what the hell would you call losing to Sligo by 11 points?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 08, 2015, 12:01:29 PM
Will this be the 20th consecutive St Totteringhams?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on April 08, 2015, 12:03:33 PM
I will definitely see it as progress from last season's campaign if we beat Chelsea this weekend.

We got thrashed last year by City, Liverpool & Chelsea and also lost out to a poor United team.

Beating Liverpool, City & finishing second would be an improvement yes, but I really do believe the standard of the English Premier League is shocking at the moment. City in Europe are as bad as ourselves, Liverpool are nothing without Suarez, United are by no means a good team, Chelsea are a tricky one for me, very tough to break down, but I still wouldn't have them in the same league as Bayern, Madrid or Barca.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 08, 2015, 03:41:10 PM
Tony?

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/2585641/tumbleweed-o.gif)

Tony, is there no Wifi in CityWest?

Or Markievicz Park?

Or Benediction?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 08, 2015, 05:15:06 PM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on April 08, 2015, 12:03:33 PM
I will definitely see it as progress from last season's campaign if we beat Chelsea this weekend.

We got thrashed last year by City, Liverpool & Chelsea and also lost out to a poor United team.

Beating Liverpool, City & finishing second would be an improvement yes, but I really do believe the standard of the English Premier League is shocking at the moment. City in Europe are as bad as ourselves, Liverpool are nothing without Suarez, United are by no means a good team, Chelsea are a tricky one for me, very tough to break down, but I still wouldn't have them in the same league as Bayern, Madrid or Barca.

Don't play Chelsea for a while yet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 19, 2015, 11:44:19 AM
Another final.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on April 19, 2015, 12:04:26 PM
With the FA cup at stake, who would you like to see selected in defence. Should he stick with his "cup team" or the team who have performed so well in the premiership.

Szenczy or Ospina
Debuchey or Bellerin
Gibbs or Monreal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 19, 2015, 07:01:04 PM
He'll not change it but Szczesney is fcuked in terms of big game temperament.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on April 19, 2015, 08:14:07 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on April 19, 2015, 12:04:26 PM
With the FA cup at stake, who would you like to see selected in defence. Should he stick with his "cup team" or the team who have performed so well in the premiership.


Ospina and Monreal. Debuchey was just rusty yesterday so see how he's going in few weeks.
Szenczy or Ospina
Debuchey or Bellerin
Gibbs or Monreal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 26, 2015, 06:03:04 PM
Jaysus that was so fcukin boring. Utd and Arsenal used to throw everything at each other. This top 2 game was unwatchable. English League a poor product.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on April 26, 2015, 06:10:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 26, 2015, 06:03:04 PM
Jaysus that was so fcukin boring. Utd and Arsenal used to throw everything at each other. This top 2 game was unwatchable. English League a poor product.

Absolutely dreadful. Yourselves and Chelsea the only 2 that should be let into the Champions league.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on April 26, 2015, 11:28:48 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 26, 2015, 06:03:04 PM
Jaysus that was so fcukin boring. Utd and Arsenal used to throw everything at each other. This top 2 game was unwatchable. English League a poor product.

Sky must be losing money on it this year. They paid massive money, 10 million a game, and a very poor league was over weeks ago. They also paid Thierry Henry 24 million and he's inversely as bad as a pundit as he was good as a player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on April 29, 2015, 10:49:52 AM
Hope Wenger doesn't sit back this summer and think "Ah we've enough to challenge for title next season" in his usual stubborn mode.

I'd like to see a real top class holding midfielder to go alongside Coquelin, and another 2 defenders, definitely missing a world class centre back, a commander, who organises the back line and has a bit of a "hard man" approach. Mertesacker not good enough IMHO, as slow as a funeral and not physically strong enough.

Also, I don't like being too harsh on him but Giroud will not win us a league or get us any further in the Champions league, he's very limited, can't run in behind defence, finishing abysmal at times unless he's in the air. Welbeck not up to it either,. So there's 3 areas that if we strengthened would turn us into chelsea-beaters.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 04, 2015, 10:00:27 PM
That was extremely comfortable. The first half football was sublime. Second half foot off the gas.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 11, 2015, 09:54:04 PM
Aye, Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on May 11, 2015, 10:13:48 PM
Not bad from Swansea,  handicapped with having their playmaker up front as striker. It looked a soft goal for a class goalkeeper to concede. Overall that was very poor from Arsenal who had something to play for against a team who were just running down their season, playing at half pace.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 11, 2015, 10:55:11 PM
That's why Wenger won't win another league. Not one world class defender. Even top class.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on May 12, 2015, 12:24:07 AM
Wenger's main problem is his inexcusable, cringeworthy,  total absence of grace, post game. And  he must be the easiest wind-up target in the ell, no wonder Mourinho has his number.
There was one  terrible piece of defending alright by Arsenal, where the 2nd defender wrongly assumed the first defender would win the ball, and left a wide path to goal exposed. But mostly it was a wasteful Arsenal attack  which failed to capatalise  when Swansea repeatedly kept gifting them the ball around the Swansea box.
I suppose it's no big deal as 3rd place is a wrap, but 2nd would be noteworthy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on May 15, 2015, 11:59:22 AM
F**K F**K F**K... the same outburst I hear myself shouting at every business time of the season. Monaco.. United.. now this. Always when it matters, couldn't break down Chelsea either.

And he's put Gotze as top target? ?? Give me strength... it is a world class.. I re-iterate WORLD-CLASS striker we need who will score goals week in-week out. and a defensive midfielder.
Coquelin is good but we never had any holding midfielder for a few years there so he had nothing to measure up to. Giroud, say what you want and argue with me, he doesn't cut it.

I'm starting to sound like a record player, but a commander in defence badly needed. Adams, Keown, Dixon, Winterburn, Bould.. have none of these guys got young ones coming through lol
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 17, 2015, 09:20:14 PM
Anyone see today's game?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on May 18, 2015, 10:50:59 AM
Chose Tyrone Donegal instead, but when I looked at the stats at half time it was 0 shots on target, 0 shots taken, horrible stuff for an arsenal fan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on May 20, 2015, 09:33:03 PM
You wouldn't bet the house on Arsenal. Very little penetration the last two home games Swansea & Sunderland. I think they already are on holiday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 20, 2015, 10:29:09 PM
The only way Arsenal were going to score today was to give the ball to Sunderland and invite them on. Cazorla must have had a record number of touches....90% going nowhere.

Wenger is too stubborn to do that though at home. Sunderland were like Donegal in the last 20 minutes of a game and that's all they needed to do to get their point.

You'd worry slightly about their form before the Cup final. Hammering WBA on Sunday might lift the confidence.

Will Villa park the bus?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 20, 2015, 10:41:47 PM
Losing and drawing at home to Swansea and Sunderland,without scoring? Arsenal have hit their Champions League knockout stages firm early or late in the season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 22, 2015, 02:48:33 PM
Talk of Vidal in the media today. Think he was injured earlier in the year but was very impressive against Madrid.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on May 22, 2015, 04:47:51 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 22, 2015, 02:48:33 PM
Talk of Vidal in the media today. Think he was injured earlier in the year but was very impressive against Madrid.

He'd take you onto another level if he signed and stayed injury free. Hell of a player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on May 25, 2015, 10:25:42 AM
Class player yes, but I'd rather see us splash big cash, £30million plus on a man who is going to score week in week out, 20+ goals a season, and will deliver in BIG games, won't go missing then score against the lesser sides... That's the missing piece for me, not enough killer instinct up front, a real poacher who is lethal in around the box in the air or on the ground.

Higuain/Jackson Martinez ??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 25, 2015, 10:27:56 AM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on May 25, 2015, 10:25:42 AM
Class player yes, but I'd rather see us splash big cash, £30million plus on a man who is going to score week in week out, 20+ goals a season, and will deliver in BIG games, won't go missing then score against the lesser sides... That's the missing piece for me, not enough killer instinct up front, a real poacher who is lethal in around the box in the air or on the ground.

Higuain/Jackson Martinez ??

Higuain is hugely over rated. No better than Giroud in my opinion. Lacks pace which is vital in the premiership. 30 goal strikers are few and far between!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on May 25, 2015, 10:41:52 AM
I'd have to disagree with you Walter,Higuain's a brilliant goalscorer. I'd have him in the top 10 or 15 finishers in the world not including the 2 mutants Ronaldo and Messi and his positioning is fantastic so gets away with not being the quickest in the world. I'd say he's going somewhere in Summer so you could do worse than get him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on May 25, 2015, 10:48:01 AM
Agreed, pace is key, If only we could have two Sanchez' up front and out wide! although in saying that Sanchez isn't an out and out striker, he just got an eye for goal this season!

I'm iffy about whether Benzema would be the right man.. going by this link - top goalscorer's in Europe as the end of the season - https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eurotopfoot.com%2Fgb%2Fsoulierdor.php3&ei=HO9iVaGSGa-O7AaAxICoBA&usg=AFQjCNEelLYU5J4M-rM7t46c52-3IAzOBw

Lacazette of Lyon or Griezmann of Athletico Madrid have pace to burn.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 25, 2015, 11:20:24 AM
Quote from: beer baron on May 25, 2015, 10:41:52 AM
I'd have to disagree with you Walter,Higuain's a brilliant goalscorer. I'd have him in the top 10 or 15 finishers in the world not including the 2 mutants Ronaldo and Messi and his positioning is fantastic so gets away with not being the quickest in the world. I'd say he's going somewhere in Summer so you could do worse than get him.

I just don't rate him BB. He's the kinda striker that needs a bagful of chances. I've been a big critic in the past of Giroud but he's got the same number of goals as Costa and both were injured for similar periods. Yet Costa is assumed to be world class! Wenger has to work out how to break teams down when they park the bus and double of triple mark Giroud!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on May 25, 2015, 11:57:00 AM
What would your views on signing Vidal be Walter? Lot of reports today suggesting he will join after Copa America, as his agent is also Sanchez' agent...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on May 25, 2015, 12:34:45 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 25, 2015, 11:20:24 AM
Quote from: beer baron on May 25, 2015, 10:41:52 AM
I'd have to disagree with you Walter,Higuain's a brilliant goalscorer. I'd have him in the top 10 or 15 finishers in the world not including the 2 mutants Ronaldo and Messi and his positioning is fantastic so gets away with not being the quickest in the world. I'd say he's going somewhere in Summer so you could do worse than get him.

I just don't rate him BB. He's the kinda striker that needs a bagful of chances. I've been a big critic in the past of Giroud but he's got the same number of goals as Costa and both were injured for similar periods. Yet Costa is assumed to be world class! Wenger has to work out how to break teams down when they park the bus and double of triple mark Giroud!

Fair enough,all entitled to our opinion. For what it's worth i like Giroud and think you guys need strengthening in other positions before a striker. That Naingolan lad from Roma seems a  hell of a midfielder from what i've seen of him and plenty of physicality too,he'd be a good fit for you guys if he's looking to leave.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 27, 2015, 10:18:56 AM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on May 25, 2015, 11:57:00 AM
What would your views on signing Vidal be Walter? Lot of reports today suggesting he will join after Copa America, as his agent is also Sanchez' agent...

I think Vidal (if back to his best) would be a serious signing for Arsenal. I think the key this summer is to strengthen in 1 or 2 areas with real quality. The players I would like to see would be:

- Cech (still a world class keeper) will Mourinho sell to Arsenal?
- Tyrone Mings (another top young defender as Mertesacker is phased out)
- Milner (great back up to Coquelin and offers energy & drive)
- Martinez (think he has the attributes for the premiership)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 30, 2015, 06:21:24 PM
Arsenal should be out of sight at half time. Aston Villa very poor.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on May 30, 2015, 06:51:29 PM
Villa didn't turn up, looked like the club who finished just above the relegation places.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gerry on May 30, 2015, 06:56:01 PM
Good day to be a gooner on the stout   #inwengerwerust
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on May 30, 2015, 06:57:07 PM
Oh, is there a match on today?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on May 30, 2015, 07:51:50 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 30, 2015, 06:57:07 PM
Oh, is there a match on today?

No! Arsenal had a short spin down the road and recollected the FA Cup! Aston Villa no shots on Target.......Yawnfest!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 30, 2015, 08:04:29 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 30, 2015, 07:51:50 PM
Quote from: laoislad on May 30, 2015, 06:57:07 PM
Oh, is there a match on today?

No! Arsenal had a short spin down the road and recollected the FA Cup! Aston Villa no shots on Target.......Yawnfest!

Not a bit. Great final :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 30, 2015, 10:34:37 PM
Villa were totally shit.

Walcott must go.

Great win. History makers again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 30, 2015, 10:45:25 PM
Does winning the FA Cup again really feel like a momentous victory to Arsenal fans?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 30, 2015, 11:06:34 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 30, 2015, 10:45:25 PM
Does winning the FA Cup again really feel like a momentous victory to Arsenal fans?

Yea, winning is overrated.

It is all about the blattiful game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on May 30, 2015, 11:08:23 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 30, 2015, 10:45:25 PM
Does winning the FA Cup again really feel like a momentous victory to Arsenal fans?

Maybe not momentous, but it makes all the smartarses who took part in the "since Arsenal last won a trophy" reset their clocks again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 30, 2015, 11:35:37 PM
Arsenal would have blown most teams aside with that performance today. Couple of signings and a title challenge can be mounted.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: orangeman on May 31, 2015, 12:51:53 AM
Arsene is a genius again. Fickle as hell.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 31, 2015, 09:41:38 AM
Quote from: orangeman on May 31, 2015, 12:51:53 AM
Arsene is a genius again. Fickle as hell.

No different to any other supporters Oranje.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on May 31, 2015, 09:56:50 AM
Just curious here but do Arsenal fans see Walcott as the answer at CF?

scored a nice goal yesterday but was offside plenty and missed at least 3 sitters (blushes saved by 1 being called offside)

A scorer of great goals is not what Arsenal need.

A great goal scorer. ...absolutely.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 31, 2015, 10:06:33 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on May 31, 2015, 09:56:50 AM
Just curious here but do Arsenal fans see Walcott as the answer at CF?

scored a nice goal yesterday but was offside plenty and missed at least 3 sitters (blushes saved by 1 being called offside)

A scorer of great goals is not what Arsenal need.

A great goal scorer. ...absolutely.

Don't see him as an out and out striker but his goal scoring record is high if you look at the stats.

People talk about this 25-30 goal striker. Can anyone give suggestions as to who he is??

Martinez? Bacca? Higuain? Would these players guarantee goals in the PL. Hard to know.

A keeper and cover/competition for Coquelin is probably more important in the summer
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on May 31, 2015, 04:53:57 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 31, 2015, 10:06:33 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on May 31, 2015, 09:56:50 AM
Just curious here but do Arsenal fans see Walcott as the answer at CF?

scored a nice goal yesterday but was offside plenty and missed at least 3 sitters (blushes saved by 1 being called offside)

A scorer of great goals is not what Arsenal need.

A great goal scorer. ...absolutely.

Don't see him as an out and out striker but his goal scoring record is high if you look at the stats.

People talk about this 25-30 goal striker. Can anyone give suggestions as to who he is??

Martinez? Bacca? Higuain? Would these players guarantee goals in the PL. Hard to know.

A keeper and cover/competition for Coquelin is probably more important in the summer

It's difficult to say who would be a guaranteed 25+ striker....Arsenal have had their share of marquee forwards like Henry and RvP and Costa, Suarez and Aguero were all available (at the right price) at one stage...

Maybe Benzema might be the man, who knows but I think it's a priority as Giroud doesn't cut it against top teams.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on June 01, 2015, 03:20:47 PM
Wenger insisting he isn't going to spend big this summer and won't be after any big names... Really disappointed to hear that.. Was hoping with £25m + on a striker and the same again on a holding midfielder with maybe an experienced keeper threw in we'd be real title challengers..

If he's going to be his old stubborn self and stick with the same squad for next season just because we finished 3rd and won the FA Cup then he's still very much deluded...

I know one thing for certain, Man City and Chelsea won't be content with a quiet summer looking for relative un-heard of names poached from Ligue One teams.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 01, 2015, 03:26:17 PM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on June 01, 2015, 03:20:47 PM
Wenger insisting he isn't going to spend big this summer and won't be after any big names... Really disappointed to hear that.. Was hoping with £25m + on a striker and the same again on a holding midfielder with maybe an experienced keeper threw in we'd be real title challengers..

If he's going to be his old stubborn self and stick with the same squad for next season just because we finished 3rd and won the FA Cup then he's still very much deluded...

I know one thing for certain, Man City and Chelsea won't be content with a quiet summer looking for relative un-heard of names poached from Ligue One teams.

Christ your a negative man.

Did Wenger say he was going to buy big before spending £42 million on Ozil and £35 million on Sanchez?? He's not foolish enough to say 'this summer we're gona spend £100 million' for clubs to go and hike prices up!!

Enjoy the cup success and leave the negativity until the transfer window is up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on June 01, 2015, 03:31:51 PM
Walter, to be fair he did say before last summer he was out to get a household name or two before landing Sanchez early on.

And any time he's said he won't be buying in transfer windows, he has kept it quiet!

I don't think anyone could be in party mode as much as Wilshere - that man can enjoy himself  8) He has the look of a man that was intoxicated behind those black sunglasses yesterday! ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 02, 2015, 02:33:59 PM
http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/ (http://www.sincearsenallastwonatrophy.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 03, 2015, 11:24:06 PM
Depends on what Arsenal owners want. If they want a title, they'll not do it under Wenger in 2016. He's not ruthless enough to tear apart that defence. Cazorla probably had his Indian Summer.

With Ozil and Sanchez Arsenal can cut open any side. However, they possess no top level full backs or central defenders and that's why the Monaco result will happen every year.

If the owners are happy with a good chance of a cup and a top 4 then Arsene is their man. If they want a title, they'll have to encourage him to go and take a hit for 2-3 years with a new manager with no loyalty to the current squad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 04, 2015, 02:22:43 AM
Koscielny has 81 Pace and is the most traded for EPL player in FIFA 15.

That's got to count for something.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tiempo on June 04, 2015, 10:34:35 AM
Quote from: ONeill on June 03, 2015, 11:24:06 PM
Depends on what Arsenal owners want. If they want a title, they'll not do it under Wenger in 2016. He's not ruthless enough to tear apart that defence. Cazorla probably had his Indian Summer.

With Ozil and Sanchez Arsenal can cut open any side. However, they possess no top level full backs or central defenders and that's why the Monaco result will happen every year.

If the owners are happy with a good chance of a cup and a top 4 then Arsene is their man. If they want a title, they'll have to encourage him to go and take a hit for 2-3 years with a new manager with no loyalty to the current squad.

Cazorla is 30, a fair way off an Indian summer, look at the likes of Xavi, Pirlo and Scholes dominating games into their mid and late 30s, Wenger would be foolish to sell him. The reason for the peak in his form is because he was finally played in the correct position, in central midfield not out wide where he is wasted.

I agree that Wenger is not ruthless enough to rip up the back 4 but I think apart from a new left back to replace Monreal and Gibbs, someone that is going to come straight in as first choice the defence is ok.

Arsenal got lucky this year, people will point to the emergence of Coquelin, in reality they got lucky with the injury to Arteta, if Arteta was fit he would've started every game, Cazorla would have been on the wing/bench and Coquelin would have finished the season on loan at Charlton before being released.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 18, 2015, 12:51:32 PM
More talk about Cech today. It seems to be gaining traction in the media.

Would be a serious signing for Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on June 22, 2015, 06:52:29 PM
It looks like the signing of Petr Cech has been completed. Will Ospina or Sczcesny be let go. I can't see them both being willing to fight for the back up keepers Jersey.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 22, 2015, 11:35:49 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on June 22, 2015, 06:52:29 PM
It looks like the signing of Petr Cech has been completed. Will Ospina or Sczcesny be let go. I can't see them both being willing to fight for the back up keepers Jersey.


Ospina to Fenerbache is apparently the rumour. Still believe Szcz has big potential and learning from Cech for a year or 2 will do him no harm.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 22, 2015, 11:38:34 PM
Cech is a great signing in fairness.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 22, 2015, 11:55:52 PM
Average signing. If he was any good he'd be at Chelsea.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on June 23, 2015, 12:13:44 AM
He had one of the best 5 keepers in the world in front of him.

Still a top notch keeper

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on June 23, 2015, 05:11:04 PM
Cech is the foundations, now lets get a commander for the back four/a powerhouse of a holding midfielder, and a clinical finisher, no fancy shite or f*cking about, ball into him, beng, back of the onion bag.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on June 24, 2015, 12:38:54 AM
Once you had Seaman covering the post and now you have a Cech on the way!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 29, 2015, 03:37:39 PM
Cech-mate!

Interesting to see this goes, at least it will change one lazy narrative.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 29, 2015, 03:46:25 PM
Szczesney the P45?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on June 29, 2015, 04:15:44 PM
Love to see Ospina stay on as he's shown throughout the season and in Copa America he's outstanding on his day. A team with two top class keepers fighting it out for no.1 is a great foundation for the defence.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 01, 2015, 02:13:40 PM
Diaby away. He owes Wenger a lot for the wage he received since that injury in 2006. Many managers would have ditched him in the last 5 years especially. Pity - he could play when fit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 21, 2015, 07:21:15 PM
Walcott stalling on contract.

Walcott signed a £90,000-a-week agreement 18 months ago and is believed to feel he is now worth in excess of £100,000,

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1897235/Dial%20Square/gifs/alan-1.gif)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on July 21, 2015, 10:10:13 PM
Walcott's next contract will be for the peak years of his career. He probably feels his wages should be more than a recently signed 33 year old goal keeper said to be £100,000 per week. It is time for Arsenal to decide if he is essential to their ambitions. If he is then give him the pay rise, if not then let him go and cash in on a big transfer fee. Worst scenario he runs down the remainder of his contract and leaves for free.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on July 21, 2015, 11:23:12 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on July 21, 2015, 10:10:13 PM
Walcott's next contract will be for the peak years of his career. He probably feels his wages should be more than a recently signed 33 year old goal keeper said to be £100,000 per week. It is time for Arsenal to decide if he is essential to their ambitions. If he is then give him the pay rise, if not then let him go and cash in on a big transfer fee. Worst scenario he runs down the remainder of his contract and leaves for free.

Worst scenario he runs down the remainder of his contract injured and leaves for free.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: trileacman on July 21, 2015, 11:25:37 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 21, 2015, 07:21:15 PM
Walcott stalling on contract.

Walcott signed a £90,000-a-week agreement 18 months ago and is believed to feel he is now worth in excess of £100,000,

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1897235/Dial%20Square/gifs/alan-1.gif)

That's the best gif I've seen this long time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 21, 2015, 11:33:33 PM
I know, to an extent, it's not Walcott's fault to think this way - agents and all that.

But FFS, that attitude is mind-blowing for the average Joe - thon boy is earning 100'000 a week, I want 100'001 a week so I feel superior on the training ground.

It's the nature of the beast.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on July 22, 2015, 12:39:45 AM
As much as I take pride in Arsenal F.C. always doing things the "Right Way", we must take notice of the current, agent controlled transfer market.

If we keep contracts in-house, we lessen the agents influence.

If we get involved with transfers for top quality players, then we should be prepared to pay what the market demands.

This also means that we pay the current wages for top quality players already on our books.

As the club with the highest ticket prices for fans for home games, are we within our rights to expect our club to pay the best wages to secure the best talent & trophies and not settle for " at least we are above spurs"


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on July 22, 2015, 12:55:53 AM
"Top quality" would be an issue here.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on July 31, 2015, 12:51:36 PM
Theo and Santi sign new deals.

1-2 more players and arguably Arsenal have the strongest squad in the league.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on August 03, 2015, 10:46:11 AM
Are we going to get a striker though? Or is it going to be a case of wait to the last day for a mad scramble and end up with some young "promising" striker, i.e. Sanogo.

Not convinced we can win a title with Giroud.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on August 03, 2015, 12:12:50 PM
Just a word of warning lads,i'm backing you boys e/w for the Premiership so if you have stinker of a season you know who to blame  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 03, 2015, 12:16:05 PM
Even Arsenal beating Chelsea couldn't raise a smile yesterday.  :-[
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 03, 2015, 07:28:42 PM
Really dependent on injury-free seasons for the midfielders. If Ramsey, Ozil, Sanchez and Cazorla play 30+ games they'll go close. I've a bad feeling about the Mertesecker/Koscielny partnership. If that goes to pieces what are the options?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 06, 2015, 08:45:38 PM
Jack crocked already.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 07, 2015, 10:04:22 AM
Should be off-loaded to City.

He wouldn't start anyway and his attitude/work rate isn't good enough.

Benzema rumours ain't going away, or is he doing a Ramos and looking a bigger deal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 09, 2015, 03:18:15 PM
Wenger out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on August 09, 2015, 03:25:48 PM
They need to be able to lump balls forward at times and mix it up, far too one dimensional for me. Walcott should have been played as a striker from the start given his pre season.

Same old Arsenal, flatter to deceive but in fairness the new keeper had a mare, hard to win when your keeper is ket!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on August 09, 2015, 03:28:37 PM
Why do you think Mourinho let Cech go?

Joke on Twitter currently.Whst has a 16 year old in his back pocket? Answer Chewing gum,comb,Ozil ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 09, 2015, 03:33:18 PM
A comb? Did we go back in time to the 60s?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 03:47:17 PM
Relax the kacks lads. Long old way to go,just one of them days. Be very shocked if you aren't within a few points if not the winners at the end of the season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 09, 2015, 04:25:25 PM
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 03:47:17 PM
Relax the kacks lads. Long old way to go,just one of them days. Be very shocked if you aren't within a few points if not the winners at the end of the season.
Would expect similar to last season with Arsenal. Cech hasn't been the same keeper since his head injury however still a better keeper than Arsenal had last year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 09, 2015, 04:38:14 PM
Normally don't look in here till Mayo are out.

Do we look like emulating the invincibles this season?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 09, 2015, 05:49:33 PM
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 03:47:17 PM
Relax the kacks lads. Long old way to go,just one of them days. Be very shocked if you aren't within a few points if not the winners at the end of the season.

Tactically inept performance though. Playing midfielders as wingers, wingers as full backs, wasting Ozil and having to rely on Sanchez who still has sand in his hair. Man for man Arsenal were technically superior so whose fault is it?

Same old excuses...fatigue (wtf) sharpness......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on August 09, 2015, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 03:47:17 PM
Relax the kacks lads. Long old way to go,just one of them days. Be very shocked if you aren't within a few points if not the winners at the end of the season.

They wont be within twelve points of the winners!

Wenger refuses to play players in their natural positions, until he does that they will lay an egg in games like this, they were outworked and stuck to playing pretty football when what they should have done was play a bit more direct at times and let Walcott, from a central position run at their big central defenders.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 06:14:08 PM
Quote from: stew on August 09, 2015, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 03:47:17 PM
Relax the kacks lads. Long old way to go,just one of them days. Be very shocked if you aren't within a few points if not the winners at the end of the season.

They wont be within twelve points of the winners!

Wenger refuses to play players in their natural positions, until he does that they will lay an egg in games like this, they were outworked and stuck to playing pretty football when what they should have done was play a bit more direct at times and let Walcott, from a central position run at their big central defenders.

Put your money where your mouth is. €100 up for grabs for the charity of our choice. I pay to yours if Arsenal aren't within 12 points of the winner and you donate to mine if they are (or the winner themselves)?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 09, 2015, 07:44:04 PM

Quote from: muppet on August 09, 2015, 04:38:14 PM
Normally don't look in here till Mayo are out.

Do we look like emulating the invincibles this season?

https://vine.co/v/ew2jp2muFOu
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on August 11, 2015, 09:30:26 AM
Early days yet, I wouldn't be panicking too much. Nevertheless a very lacklustre start, both goals were avoidable.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on August 19, 2015, 02:21:02 PM
Anyone with any inside info? Clutching at straws here but looking for some glimmer of hope that we are going to sign someone... At the minute looking like it will drag out to the last day with the same garbage talk about Benzema and Cavani. Only to land a "promising" French U21 player for an undisclosed fee. (Or two.)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on August 19, 2015, 02:22:32 PM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on August 19, 2015, 02:21:02 PM
Anyone with any inside info? Clutching at straws here but looking for some glimmer of hope that we are going to sign someone... At the minute looking like it will drag out to the last day with the same garbage talk about Benzema and Cavani. Only to land a "promising" French U21 player for an undisclosed fee. (Or two.)

Like Henry you mean? Oh the pain of it :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on August 19, 2015, 02:55:47 PM
Come on now, Henry wasn't a complete unknown, he was a prospect at Juventus after all, albeit not playing well, on that subject I'd take that Morata fella from them!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pullhard on August 19, 2015, 03:00:33 PM
Any sign of another striker?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 19, 2015, 08:46:54 PM
The only way to improve your team is by transfers. Wtf ever happened to plain old coaching and developing young players. Having a good transfer window is now a thing, good old Sky Sports News....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: smelmoth on August 20, 2015, 09:18:45 PM
Quote from: stew on August 09, 2015, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 03:47:17 PM
Relax the kacks lads. Long old way to go,just one of them days. Be very shocked if you aren't within a few points if not the winners at the end of the season.

They wont be within twelve points of the winners!

Wenger refuses to play players in their natural positions
, until he does that they will lay an egg in games like this, they were outworked and stuck to playing pretty football when what they should have done was play a bit more direct at times and let Walcott, from a central position run at their big central defenders.
He refused to play Lauren in centre midfield and stuck him at right back. What did that team win?
Petit was a superb left back in Monaco. To play him in centre mid from the off was insane and ballsed up is chances of getting in the '98 world cup squad.
Thank christ Wenger didn't buy that winger from Monaco/Juventus. We needed a striker and Henry could never be that.
We could never win a league or a double with Wiltord on the wing.
We could never get to a CL final with Flamini at left back?

Wenger knows nothing about positioning.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: smelmoth on August 20, 2015, 09:26:22 PM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on August 19, 2015, 02:21:02 PM
Anyone with any inside info? Clutching at straws here but looking for some glimmer of hope that we are going to sign someone... At the minute looking like it will drag out to the last day with the same garbage talk about Benzema and Cavani. Only to land a "promising" French U21 player for an undisclosed fee. (Or two.)
Reasonable source tells me he is serious about KB in this window. Making noises about Cavani, Lewandowski et al to keep Real honest in price terms. Still looking for a defensive midfielder but not looking for anybody else.






Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballinaman on August 24, 2015, 05:20:07 PM
Benzema just called ye clowns.

Shots fired!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2015, 07:58:41 PM
Both centre backs out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 24, 2015, 08:15:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 24, 2015, 07:58:41 PM
Both centre backs out.

Makes a change from Wenger out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 24, 2015, 08:39:18 PM
Czech out!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: galwayman on August 24, 2015, 08:44:59 PM
Playing terribly so far tonight
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 24, 2015, 08:47:06 PM
Quote from: galwayman on August 24, 2015, 08:44:59 PM
Playing terribly so far tonight
Cech is playing well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: CD on August 24, 2015, 08:52:14 PM
Feel sorry for chambers! Having a nightmare. Carzola anonymous. Lucky not to be 2 down
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 24, 2015, 08:56:29 PM
Quote from: CD on August 24, 2015, 08:52:14 PM
Feel sorry for chambers! Having a nightmare. Carzola anonymous. Lucky not to be 2 down

Both useless and Bellerin not much better.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 24, 2015, 09:02:25 PM
Arsenal don't 'need to protect their back 4' they need protection from their back 4.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 24, 2015, 09:43:07 PM
Same aul shi£e from Arsenal. Tip tap tip tap. Next year will be our year. So frustrating.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 24, 2015, 09:53:04 PM
Theo a spare part when he came on. Probably a fair result. Nearly conceded 4 first half.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on August 25, 2015, 09:22:08 AM
Failed to score in 2 of 3 opening games.... My take on it is that there are too many midfielders in the team who are good on the ball, but when it comes down to it none are clinical enough to finish it or take a shot from the edge of the box.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on August 31, 2015, 04:28:09 PM
Alexandre Pato has just followed Arsenal & Melissa Joan Hart on Twitter... either he's joining us or he's going to be the next Sabrina the Teenage Witch  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 31, 2015, 04:34:11 PM
There's hardly any ITK on gaaboard? Need a striker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: StGallsGAA on September 02, 2015, 12:05:33 AM
Do you think the Arsenal Chairman misunderstood him when he asked Arsene Wenger, "Tell me what you need to win the Premier League this year and you can have it" and Wenger replied "Just a blank cheque!"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 02, 2015, 12:10:18 AM
Welbeck coming back is like a new signing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 02, 2015, 09:04:28 AM
We might have enough if have no injury problems but that's a big if. Coquelin will have to play most games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on September 02, 2015, 10:38:39 AM
Disgusted. All this bullshit about not being any "quality & exceptional players" out there. Would any of the top Champions league teams in Europe have a Giroud/Welbeck/Walcott leading their line or even as back-up?? Not a chance.

There were plenty of players, Aubameyang - Dortmund, Icardi @ Inter, Hernandez' goalscoring record @ United was great and he went on the cheap, Charlie Austin - while he may not fit the Wenger "model" he scored 18 goals last season in the premier league .... ???? Ibrahimovic is 31 yes, but he's always on the move and his talent is second to none.

You'd swear it was his money he was spending, and whilst I admire his faith in his current squad, and that he isn't shunned by the other 19 teams in the league spending at least double what we spent, and bringing in at least 4x the players (Everton, whom we play on Saturday brought in second lowest amount of players - 4 to our 1) he really is on the back foot this season. I've always backed him but i don't give a damn this season if we win FA Cup, Carling Cup, and finish 2nd/3rd/4th. - That is a failure to me, indicating we've stood still and failed to build on a great squad of players who just needed another 2/3 powerful leaders around them to become real contenders in Europe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on September 02, 2015, 02:46:45 PM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on September 02, 2015, 10:38:39 AM
Disgusted. All this bullshit about not being any "quality & exceptional players" out there. Would any of the top Champions league teams in Europe have a Giroud/Welbeck/Walcott leading their line or even as back-up?? Not a chance.

There were plenty of players, Aubameyang - Dortmund, Icardi @ Inter, Hernandez' goalscoring record @ United was great and he went on the cheap, Charlie Austin - while he may not fit the Wenger "model" he scored 18 goals last season in the premier league .... ???? Ibrahimovic is 31 yes, but he's always on the move and his talent is second to none.

You'd swear it was his money he was spending, and whilst I admire his faith in his current squad, and that he isn't shunned by the other 19 teams in the league spending at least double what we spent, and bringing in at least 4x the players (Everton, whom we play on Saturday brought in second lowest amount of players - 4 to our 1) he really is on the back foot this season. I've always backed him but i don't give a damn this season if we win FA Cup, Carling Cup, and finish 2nd/3rd/4th. - That is a failure to me, indicating we've stood still and failed to build on a great squad of players who just needed another 2/3 powerful leaders around them to become real contenders in Europe.
We call him Zlatan (easier to type and spell), is 33 going on 34.
3 seasons worth of Zlatan in his prime, 31 -34   would probably have made a difference of around  £120m  on his transfer fee, going on today's rates of exchange, in a 4 year contract aged 31 to age 35, compared to a 4 year contract at the age 34 to age 38
But yes he's aging well, not unlike his compatriot Henrik Larsson in that respect.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on September 03, 2015, 05:06:59 PM
WElbeck out for a few months apparently. They knew about this last week too, but didn't announce it. Strange goings on at the Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 03, 2015, 05:28:32 PM
He'll be line a new signing in January and won't have to buy anyone. His initial injury was bruising on the knee so how it's esculated to this is typical Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 03, 2015, 09:54:51 PM
Is it beyond the realms of possibility that Wenger kneecapped Welbeck in the knowledge that he'll be fine in January and that'll negate the need for a signing?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on September 03, 2015, 11:29:24 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 03, 2015, 05:06:59 PM
WElbeck out for a few months apparently. They knew about this last week too, but didn't announce it. Strange goings on at the Arsenal.

They should appeal it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on September 04, 2015, 12:06:41 PM
No, instead they are going to dislocate Aguero's kneecap as well, as it's only right they lose a player too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on September 14, 2015, 12:29:17 PM
Olivier & Theo both score to make us eat our words!!  ::) ;D

Big one this week taking on a Chelsea team who are a wounded animal, surely at some stage they'll produce a performance (Hazard has yet to click also) just praying it's not against us!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 14, 2015, 12:57:30 PM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on September 14, 2015, 12:29:17 PM
Olivier & Theo both score to make us eat our words!!  ::) ;D

Big one this week taking on a Chelsea team who are a wounded animal, surely at some stage they'll produce a performance (Hazard has yet to click also) just praying it's not against us!

Arsenal play Wednesday night away in Europe. A draw would be a good result in those circumstance but a 12 45pm kick-off on a Saturday means Arsenal have greatly reduced preparation and recovery time, expect a defeat and the usual knee-jerk reactions.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on September 15, 2015, 04:59:11 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 03, 2015, 05:06:59 PM
WElbeck out for a few months apparently. They knew about this last week too, but didn't announce it. Strange goings on at the Arsenal.

Wilshere out for three months.

Not bad really, only 3 months this time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 15, 2015, 06:11:56 PM
These English lads are made of glass.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on September 16, 2015, 09:53:39 AM
Should we cut our losses and offload Wilshere to the likes of Man City etc (if they'd still take him)?
I once regarded him as our answer to the commander/general in the defensive midfield role, but he seems to have turned into an attacking central midfielder when he is fit. At the minute to me it looks like he'll just be another one of those young English lads over-hyped by the media and it went to his head, suddenly he's an average player by 27/28.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 16, 2015, 10:00:21 AM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on September 16, 2015, 09:53:39 AM
Should we cut our losses and offload Wilshere to the likes of Man City etc (if they'd still take him)?
I once regarded him as our answer to the commander/general in the defensive midfield role, but he seems to have turned into an attacking central midfielder when he is fit. At the minute to me it looks like he'll just be another one of those young English lads over-hyped by the media and it went to his head, suddenly he's an average player by 27/28.

Agree - flog him for 40million + this summer. Never mind his injuries he appears a horrible little prat!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on September 16, 2015, 10:41:10 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on September 16, 2015, 10:00:21 AM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on September 16, 2015, 09:53:39 AM
Should we cut our losses and offload Wilshere to the likes of Man City etc (if they'd still take him)?
I once regarded him as our answer to the commander/general in the defensive midfield role, but he seems to have turned into an attacking central midfielder when he is fit. At the minute to me it looks like he'll just be another one of those young English lads over-hyped by the media and it went to his head, suddenly he's an average player by 27/28.

Agree - flog him for 40million + this summer. Never mind his injuries he appears a horrible little prat!

40 Mill?? f**k me!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 19, 2015, 02:52:00 PM
Arsenal fail once again against a top team. Groundhog Day.

Wenger really needs to go after this season. If Klopp is willing to come the board should break the bank to get him.

Failing to strengthen the squad beyond a keeper is inexcusable. Doubly so when you realise Wilshire and Welbeck are out till Christmas.  No players available that would make the squad better - a joke, a pure joke.

When your rivals are spending fortunes to improve their teams you needs to be spending just to keep pace, never mind overtake them.

Maybe it will take finishing outside the top 4 to shift Wenger, that seems to be the only criteria he is judged against (or even judges himself against by the looks of it)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 20, 2015, 09:43:03 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 19, 2015, 02:52:00 PM
Arsenal fail once again against a top team. Groundhog Day.

Wenger really needs to go after this season. If Klopp is willing to come the board should break the bank to get him.

Failing to strengthen the squad beyond a keeper is inexcusable. Doubly so when you realise Wilshire and Welbeck are out till Christmas.  No players available that would make the squad better - a joke, a pure joke.

When your rivals are spending fortunes to improve their teams you needs to be spending just to keep pace, never mind overtake them.

Maybe it will take finishing outside the top 4 to shift Wenger, that seems to be the only criteria he is judged against (or even judges himself against by the looks of it)

He's a stubborn man. Believes he can transform good players into world-class.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 20, 2015, 04:17:23 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 20, 2015, 09:43:03 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on September 19, 2015, 02:52:00 PM
Arsenal fail once again against a top team. Groundhog Day.

Wenger really needs to go after this season. If Klopp is willing to come the board should break the bank to get him.

Failing to strengthen the squad beyond a keeper is inexcusable. Doubly so when you realise Wilshire and Welbeck are out till Christmas.  No players available that would make the squad better - a joke, a pure joke.

When your rivals are spending fortunes to improve their teams you needs to be spending just to keep pace, never mind overtake them.

Maybe it will take finishing outside the top 4 to shift Wenger, that seems to be the only criteria he is judged against (or even judges himself against by the looks of it)

He's a stubborn man. Believes he can transform good players into world-class.

Players seem to go backwards more than forwards under Wenger these days.

Would cut losses with Walcott, Welbeck, Wilshire and Chambers. None of them will be world class. Wilshire had potential to be but made of chocolate.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 20, 2015, 05:08:34 PM
Funny how Wenger couldn't find anyone to improve his team yet Man U and spurs managed to pick up 2 strikers who can't stop scoring
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on September 21, 2015, 12:18:28 PM
Lads I have an idea. Do you want to swap with Rodgers?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on September 21, 2015, 12:31:14 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 21, 2015, 12:18:28 PM
Lads I have an idea. Do you want to swap with Rodgers?

Klopp on!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on September 21, 2015, 06:15:28 PM
Quote from: muppet on September 21, 2015, 12:31:14 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 21, 2015, 12:18:28 PM
Lads I have an idea. Do you want to swap with Rodgers?

Klopp on!

Liverpool have already bags on Kloop so feck off
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 27, 2015, 09:45:42 AM
A timely rush of goals before Olympiacos, Utd and Munich.

He's persevering with Wally up front. To be fair to Theo, he's making the runs. No aerial threat though without Giroud.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tiempo on September 27, 2015, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 27, 2015, 09:45:42 AM
A timely rush of goals before Olympiacos, Utd and Munich.

He's persevering with Wally up front. To be fair to Theo, he's making the runs. No aerial threat though without Giroud.

Sanchez
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on September 27, 2015, 11:22:46 AM
What a ball by Ozil  :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 29, 2015, 09:41:53 PM
Exciting times for le arse now. Need to win the reverse fixtures of the first two games and take Munich in one of the games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on September 29, 2015, 09:42:43 PM
  Arsenal wouldn't beat Dundalk! ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 29, 2015, 09:43:14 PM
Sure their reserves bate Spurs last week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 29, 2015, 09:43:41 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on September 29, 2015, 09:42:43 PM
  Arsenal wouldn't beat Dundalk! ;D

But they managed to beat Spurs last week...

Fair play ONeill!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 29, 2015, 09:52:43 PM
Keeps going that way the Premier league will no longer have 4 teams competing in the Cl. Seria A closing in on the the the ranking place.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 29, 2015, 09:55:10 PM
The sad thing is....it'll happen again and again and again. It was been happening in Europe since Wenger took over. 2006 was a blip.

Wenger is a questionable decision maker in European football.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on September 29, 2015, 10:01:03 PM
piers morgan going into overdrive on twitter. i think he wants wenger out  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on September 29, 2015, 10:08:10 PM
Wenger must stay😂
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 29, 2015, 10:22:37 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on September 29, 2015, 10:08:10 PM
Wenger must stay😂

For Arsenal to finish above Spurs, yes. 20 years.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ashman on September 30, 2015, 01:36:25 AM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 29, 2015, 09:52:43 PM
Keeps going that way the Premier league will no longer have 4 teams competing in the Cl. Seria A closing in on the the the ranking place.

EPL is now a peak earning for footballers. Hunger sated when contract signed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GJL on September 30, 2015, 08:39:07 AM
Wenger is probably happy enough with Arsenal's position in their group. They are 4th after all!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on September 30, 2015, 10:49:37 AM
Maybe it's a cunning plan for an all out tilt at Premier League?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pullhard on October 04, 2015, 10:08:38 PM
A great 45 mins today
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 05, 2015, 12:05:56 AM
No outstanding side in the league. Arsenal can win it with a good run.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: pullhard on October 05, 2015, 09:23:29 AM
At the moment I think Arsenal are too nice to win it. They should have pushed on in the second half, a utd goal and the arses would have been going
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Canalman on October 05, 2015, 10:45:05 AM
I have to say that Wenger is excellent at winning a big  important game when the pressure is on him after a string of poor performances.

Always liked him and his team's style of play tbh.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on October 05, 2015, 02:37:06 PM
Hard for any honest football aficionado not to appreciate the durable management and football style of one of the select few masters of modern football.


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Maroon Manc on October 05, 2015, 03:31:54 PM
Arsenal probably won't have an easier half of football as they did yesterday. Arsenal were superb but we gave them far too much time and space and made so many tactical and individual errors.

Thursday night football could happen yet for Arsenal which would be a disaster for a title challenge.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 17, 2015, 11:09:49 PM
Arsenal will win the league.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on October 17, 2015, 11:26:06 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 17, 2015, 11:09:49 PM
Arsenal will win the league.

How long have you been feeling like this?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 17, 2015, 11:26:53 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 17, 2015, 11:26:06 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 17, 2015, 11:09:49 PM
Arsenal will win the league.

How long have you been feeling like this?

I do not know this man!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 17, 2015, 11:31:28 PM
Recently. The EPL is so average that only an elongated injury to Aguero will affect things.  Ozil and Sanchez are league winners if fit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Minder on October 17, 2015, 11:36:55 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 17, 2015, 11:09:49 PM
Arsenal will win the league.

I agree
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on October 17, 2015, 11:37:27 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 17, 2015, 11:31:28 PM
Recently. The EPL is so average that only an elongated injury to Aguero will affect things.  Ozil and Sanchez are league winners if fit.

They might be league winners, but the County Board aren't.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 17, 2015, 11:42:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 17, 2015, 11:31:28 PM
Recently. The EPL is so average that only an elongated injury to Aguero will affect things.  Ozil and Sanchez are league winners if fit.
The Premier league has been so average the last three or four years and Arsenals highest finish was third they might finish second this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on October 20, 2015, 05:47:15 PM
Even though Arsene is an outspoken critic of the Ballon D'Or award, hearty congrats are due to the indestructible, invincible Wenger for yet again being recognised as one of the world's top footballing coaches  after being named on this year's shortlist of ten.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 20, 2015, 08:09:07 PM
Men against boys!! Unreal Bayern at the moment
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on October 20, 2015, 09:19:30 PM
Hand  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 20, 2015, 09:20:41 PM
Howler from arguably the best goal keeper in Europe.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: sensethetone on October 20, 2015, 09:22:04 PM
Don't care take it when you're getting it
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ashman on October 20, 2015, 09:41:38 PM
Is your man tomas muller well overrated ??

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on October 20, 2015, 09:50:28 PM
Quote from: ashman on October 20, 2015, 09:41:38 PM
Is your man tomas muller well overrated ??

No!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 20, 2015, 09:56:27 PM
That Olympiakos goal is a blow.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: StGallsGAA on October 20, 2015, 11:16:33 PM
Arsenal have a CL winning side written all over them.  Just like Chelsea v Bayern in 2012 they spent 85 mins camped in their own penalty box and then hit on the break. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 20, 2015, 11:21:08 PM
Think the Greek side's goal tonight is crucial. They'll beat Zagreb at home.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 24, 2015, 08:01:42 PM
League over. Sam's coming home.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: StGallsGAA on October 24, 2015, 08:12:47 PM
Your forgetting that Arsenal have the distasteful record of most weeks on top of the league without actually winning it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on October 24, 2015, 10:06:05 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 24, 2015, 08:01:42 PM
League over. Sam's coming home.

I have never seen you like this before Shane.

Have you forgotten all those long Novembers?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 24, 2015, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 24, 2015, 10:06:05 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 24, 2015, 08:01:42 PM
League over. Sam's coming home.

I have never seen you like this before Shane.

Have you forgotten all those long Novembers?

Yes, the Black November still haunts us. But, these are the upcoming league fixtures:

A v Swansea
H v Spuds
A v WBA
A v Norwich
H v Sunderland
A v Villa

4-1-1 from that should keep them in good health til the demanding Christmas period.

In terms of winning the thing - the opposition isn't anything to shout about, Sanchez and Ozil are hungry and I hope he buys a couple of journeyman reinforcements in January.

Keeping Alexis fit is key. Especially over Christmas.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on October 24, 2015, 10:51:44 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 24, 2015, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 24, 2015, 10:06:05 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 24, 2015, 08:01:42 PM
League over. Sam's coming home.

I have never seen you like this before Shane.

Have you forgotten all those long Novembers?

Yes, the Black November still haunts us. But, these are the upcoming league fixtures:

A v Swansea
H v Spuds
A v WBA
A v Norwich
H v Sunderland
A v Villa

4-1-1 from that should keep them in good health til the demanding Christmas period.

In terms of winning the thing - the opposition isn't anything to shout about, Sanchez and Ozil are hungry and I hope he buys a couple of journeyman reinforcements in January.

Keeping Alexis fit is key. Especially over Christmas.

If you told me at the start of the season that with around 25% of the games gone Arsenal would have double Chelsea's points tally, that Liverpool would have sacked their manager and that Rooney was performing like a walrus at the dentist, and still being picked, I would definitely have taken it.

But I need to see Yaya seriously offended by some birthday ritual and Aguero start in the front row against the All-Blacks before I will get giddy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on October 25, 2015, 03:47:49 AM
Quote from: ONeill on October 24, 2015, 10:26:09 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 24, 2015, 10:06:05 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 24, 2015, 08:01:42 PM
League over. Sam's coming home.

I have never seen you like this before Shane.

Have you forgotten all those long Novembers?

Yes, the Black November still haunts us. But, these are the upcoming league fixtures:

A v Swansea
H v Spuds
A v WBA
A v Norwich
H v Sunderland
A v Villa

4-1-1 from that should keep them in good health til the demanding Christmas period.

In terms of winning the thing - the opposition isn't anything to shout about, Sanchez and Ozil are hungry and I hope he buys a couple of journeyman reinforcements in January.

Keeping Alexis fit is key. Especially over Christmas.

I hope Sanchez is crocked by xmas, if he is ye are fecked. )
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on October 26, 2015, 12:50:36 PM
Gabriel turning into a serious player!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 27, 2015, 08:07:40 PM
Ox and Theo off injured. Injury jinx starts again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 27, 2015, 09:03:09 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 27, 2015, 08:07:40 PM
Ox and Theo off injured. Injury jinx starts again.
And 3-0 down a bad night for Gooners
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2015, 09:51:58 PM
Middle East betting scam.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 27, 2015, 10:13:18 PM
What sort of team had Arsenal out tonight?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 27, 2015, 10:14:32 PM
A mixture of kids and back up players.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 27, 2015, 10:15:34 PM
Shit ones.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on October 27, 2015, 10:40:01 PM
That was some horrid kit they were wearing tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on October 31, 2015, 03:20:35 PM
Any streams?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 31, 2015, 04:36:09 PM
But late sorry but loads on frontrow.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 31, 2015, 05:04:11 PM
Important win. Absolutely nothing on the bench, so dependent on the starting 11.

Badly need players fit again. One more injury to that side and it'll be a struggle til December.

Wilshere, Walcott, Oxlade and Welbeck are average players but needed soon to give others a rest. Ramsey too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 31, 2015, 07:13:43 PM
Wouldn't say their average. Definitely needed back. Four defenders on bench. Bellerin is class. Potential to be best RB in world.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on November 04, 2015, 08:30:18 PM
Munich putting away the chances time around.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on November 04, 2015, 08:36:11 PM
Munich are class act, best team in Europe at the minute. Arsenal are being brushed aside with ease.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 04, 2015, 08:39:04 PM
The Arsenal win against Bayern Munich three weeks ago looks like a fluke now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2015, 08:43:10 PM
Great scoreline in Greece.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on November 04, 2015, 09:07:44 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 04, 2015, 08:43:10 PM
Great scoreline in Greece.

Arsenal would still need to win both remaining games surely so not that huge a benefit? Just lowers the goals required in the win.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 04, 2015, 09:10:08 PM
Robbed is still a hateful humpy looking hoor. He's like something out of Lord of the rings.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on November 04, 2015, 09:24:43 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 04, 2015, 09:10:08 PM
Robbed is still a hateful humpy looking hoor. He's like something out of Lord of the rings.

Reminds me a we bit of the fella in 300
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2015, 09:30:44 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on November 04, 2015, 09:07:44 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 04, 2015, 08:43:10 PM
Great scoreline in Greece.

Arsenal would still need to win both remaining games surely so not that huge a benefit? Just lowers the goals required in the win.

Exactly. Also meant if Bayern took her easy against the Greeks then there'd still be a chance. Not any more....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 04, 2015, 09:32:34 PM
Well I suppose its better having a chance to get to the knockout stages than not at all... Ah well next year is their year  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 04, 2015, 09:34:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 04, 2015, 09:30:44 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on November 04, 2015, 09:07:44 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 04, 2015, 08:43:10 PM
Great scoreline in Greece.

Arsenal would still need to win both remaining games surely so not that huge a benefit? Just lowers the goals required in the win.

Exactly. Also meant if Bayern took her easy against the Greeks then there'd still be a chance. Not any more....

A late winner for Olympiacos.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 04, 2015, 09:34:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 04, 2015, 09:30:44 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on November 04, 2015, 09:07:44 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 04, 2015, 08:43:10 PM
Great scoreline in Greece.

Arsenal would still need to win both remaining games surely so not that huge a benefit? Just lowers the goals required in the win.

Exactly. Also meant if Bayern took her easy against the Greeks then there'd still be a chance. Not any more....

A late winner for Olympiacos.

Hence 'not any more'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 04, 2015, 09:51:50 PM
Would you just not bother next game? Big chance both Bayern and Olympiacos settle for draw and Arsenal end up in Europa. Or go all out and see what happens.

Bridge too far missing so many. Bellerin huge loss. Coquelin and Ozil tried hard.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on November 04, 2015, 10:26:43 PM
How Petr Cech must long for the days when he could go to the Allianz with a London club,only concede one goal from play and leave with a Champions League medal ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2015, 10:31:32 PM
Yes Spurs should stuff Arsenal on Sunday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 05, 2015, 12:12:02 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 04, 2015, 10:31:32 PM
Yes Spurs should stuff Arsenal on Sunday.
How many threads would Tony start if that happens!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Maroon Manc on November 05, 2015, 01:16:11 PM
Another injury crisis at Arsenal, it happens most years and far too often for it to be a coincidence.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: The Trap on November 05, 2015, 03:20:18 PM
Don't know which thread to put this in so will land it in here to see what people think......whilst keeping an eye on the champions league last night I heard that Porto's third goal was scored by Miguel Layan. Turns out he is a Mexican on loan from Watford......so he isn't good enough for the Watford squad but can play for Porto who top their group in the champions league.......this sums up the premier league for me.........teams cannot get the best out of players and I believe it all comes down to money......I would say this guy works hard for his money in Porto while players in England just take their money and laugh all the way to the bank.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: smort on November 05, 2015, 03:52:52 PM
Quote from: The Trap on November 05, 2015, 03:20:18 PM
Don't know which thread to put this in so will land it in here to see what people think......whilst keeping an eye on the champions league last night I heard that Porto's third goal was scored by Miguel Layan. Turns out he is a Mexican on loan from Watford......so he isn't good enough for the Watford squad but can play for Porto who top their group in the champions league.......this sums up the premier league for me.........teams cannot get the best out of players and I believe it all comes down to money......I would say this guy works hard for his money in Porto while players in England just take their money and laugh all the way to the bank.

Layun, had him in my fantasy team at the start of the year, top player. In regards to your point, I'm not sure what the reason is but yes there definitely seems to be a problem with players reaching their potential in the BPL. layun, jovetic, felipe luis, salah, kagawa spring to mind as players who didn't seem to 'get' the premier league but are performing well elsewhere. Maybe it just doesn't happen for some players. Though money is likely a factor alright. Shaqiri at stoke could end up something similar.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Norf Tyrone on November 05, 2015, 03:59:33 PM
Quote from: smort on November 05, 2015, 03:52:52 PM
Quote from: The Trap on November 05, 2015, 03:20:18 PM
Don't know which thread to put this in so will land it in here to see what people think......whilst keeping an eye on the champions league last night I heard that Porto's third goal was scored by Miguel Layan. Turns out he is a Mexican on loan from Watford......so he isn't good enough for the Watford squad but can play for Porto who top their group in the champions league.......this sums up the premier league for me.........teams cannot get the best out of players and I believe it all comes down to money......I would say this guy works hard for his money in Porto while players in England just take their money and laugh all the way to the bank.

Layun, had him in my fantasy team at the start of the year, top player. In regards to your point, I'm not sure what the reason is but yes there definitely seems to be a problem with players reaching their potential in the BPL. layun, jovetic, felipe luis, salah, kagawa spring to mind as players who didn't seem to 'get' the premier league but are performing well elsewhere. Maybe it just doesn't happen for some players. Though money is likely a factor alright. Shaqiri at stoke could end up something similar.

Thought the same when I heard it mentioned last night too. Good enough for a top ten team in Europe but not Watford. Salah is one mentioned there that puzzles. Is it all to do with pressure?

In my opinion Salah wasn't given enough chances at Chelsea and has it in him to be a very good player as he is showing in Italy. However the pressure at English Clubs where the multiple teams can beat anyone is probably greater than in Germany, Portugal etc where there's in reality only 1 or 2 teams at a decent competitive level.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 05, 2015, 04:14:16 PM
Nuri Sahin is probably another. Klopp is being linked with him again!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on November 05, 2015, 04:45:22 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 05, 2015, 04:14:16 PM
Nuri Sahin is probably another. Klopp is being linked with him again!

Veron?

Shevchenko?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: trueblue1234 on November 05, 2015, 05:00:02 PM
Forlan
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on November 06, 2015, 11:54:59 AM
Would fellow gunners on here not agree that if we can't get out of the group, for godsake field a second team and miss 3rd place so we don't have to participate in that joke of a competition that is Europa League. Chelsea won it recently and who batted an eyelid?? The thursday night fixture would be catastrophic to our premier league fixtures at the weekend.

I'd rather finish bottom than 3rd, who gives a hoot about what the media say. Concentrate on premiership and give full 100% to it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on November 06, 2015, 12:51:35 PM
The Europa League is a nice competition to win! But as you say you are down to 9 more (8 of which are on a Thursday) games. Sunday games from then on. A big workload for a competition of it's stature. Feck the League Cup can be won in 4/5 games at most. At the end of the day both are nice trophies to add to the season team picture, A day out for a final for the fans, But both cups are not really titles of any worth!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Canalman on November 06, 2015, 02:29:56 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 06, 2015, 12:51:35 PM
The Europa League is a nice competition to win! But as you say you are down to 9 more (8 of which are on a Thursday) games. Sunday games from then on. A big workload for a competition of it's stature. Feck the League Cup can be won in 4/5 games at most. At the end of the day both are nice trophies to add to the season team picture, A day out for a final for the fans, But both cups are not really titles of any worth!


Champions league I agree has somewhat destroyed everything in its shade. Am old enough to remember when winning the UEFA or Cup Winners Cup were huge achievements. A pity really.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tiempo on November 06, 2015, 02:37:51 PM
Quote from: Canalman on November 06, 2015, 02:29:56 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 06, 2015, 12:51:35 PM
The Europa League is a nice competition to win! But as you say you are down to 9 more (8 of which are on a Thursday) games. Sunday games from then on. A big workload for a competition of it's stature. Feck the League Cup can be won in 4/5 games at most. At the end of the day both are nice trophies to add to the season team picture, A day out for a final for the fans, But both cups are not really titles of any worth!


Champions league I agree has somewhat destroyed everything in its shade. Am old enough to remember when winning the UEFA or Cup Winners Cup were huge achievements. A pity really.

Yeah i agree with that
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: deiseach on November 06, 2015, 02:48:13 PM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on November 06, 2015, 11:54:59 AM
I'd rather finish bottom than 3rd, who gives a hoot about what the media say. Concentrate on premiership and give full 100% to it.

What do the media say?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 07, 2015, 10:32:05 PM
He's definitely different.

http://news.arseblog.com/2015/11/arsene-wengers-full-interview-with-lequipe-sport-and-style/
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on November 07, 2015, 10:45:53 PM
Spurs to pile on the pressure with a win tomorrow👍
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 07, 2015, 10:57:05 PM
Yes, if Spurs win they should pile on the pressure for a side at the top.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: HiMucker on November 07, 2015, 11:01:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 07, 2015, 10:32:05 PM
He's definitely different.

http://news.arseblog.com/2015/11/arsene-wengers-full-interview-with-lequipe-sport-and-style/
"In thirty years as a manager, I've never had my players injected to make them better. I never gave them any product that would help enhance their performance. I'm proud of that. I've played against many teams that weren't in that frame of mind."

Could this quote in short explain why arsenal always have an injury crisis?  As many suspect PEDs are widespread in soccer given the money involved.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: maigheo on November 07, 2015, 11:26:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 07, 2015, 10:32:05 PM
He's definitely different.

http://news.arseblog.com/2015/11/arsene-wengers-full-interview-with-lequipe-sport-and-style/
Not an Arsenal fan but would have to say that Wenger would be my favorite manager in the premier league.May be a little different but always seemed like a good guy and a guy who cared about his players and the way the game should be played
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on November 21, 2015, 01:31:59 AM
Quote from: muppet on October 24, 2015, 10:06:05 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 24, 2015, 08:01:42 PM
League over. Sam's coming home.

I have never seen you like this before Shane.

Have you forgotten all those long Novembers?

Unbeaten so far this November!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 21, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
Lost 5-1 in Germany and a 1-1 at home to the spuds. Not exactly firing on all cylinders.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on November 21, 2015, 12:13:27 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 21, 2015, 09:31:09 AM
Lost 5-1 in Germany and a 1-1 at home to the spuds. Not exactly firing on all cylinders.

I should have said the League. Normally November ends the title challenge but there are so few games this November we might survive it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 21, 2015, 01:51:54 PM
The squad still stretched. Need to be winning games like today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on November 21, 2015, 02:37:50 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 21, 2015, 01:51:54 PM
The squad still stretched. Need to be winning games like today.

I see Ramsey became a father yesterday.

Definitely need 3 points. Other teams have been slipping up, so there is a great opportunity to stay relevant for longer this year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 21, 2015, 03:44:20 PM
Disaster so far. Coq off injured. 2-1 down. Feck November.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on November 23, 2015, 09:33:07 AM
.............


..... F*CK
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on November 24, 2015, 04:37:58 PM
Surprised there has been no mention of the Zagreb drug test failure.

UEFA say there is no team sanction unless two or more player fail the test. But how many Zagreb players were tested after that game?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on November 24, 2015, 08:35:58 PM
A lot of empty seats at the Emirates.

(https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBhgaHR0cDovL3d3dy4xMDFncmVhdGdvYWxzLmNvbS93cC1jb250ZW50L3VwbG9hZHMvMjAxNS8xMS9TY3JlZW4tU2hvdC0yMDE1LTExLTI0LWF0LTkuNTUuMjctUE0ucG5nFKgGFKgGHBTwARTwAQAAFgASAA&s=t08iGWLRe2YRkdsKJ7J1lNZ7HNqBcygh4M7AGCWDydE)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUmdGh8XIAAfLAX.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUmdGq5W4AA00Rn.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 24, 2015, 11:11:21 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2015, 08:35:58 PM
A lot of empty seats at the Emirates.

(https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBhgaHR0cDovL3d3dy4xMDFncmVhdGdvYWxzLmNvbS93cC1jb250ZW50L3VwbG9hZHMvMjAxNS8xMS9TY3JlZW4tU2hvdC0yMDE1LTExLTI0LWF0LTkuNTUuMjctUE0ucG5nFKgGFKgGHBTwARTwAQAAFgASAA&s=t08iGWLRe2YRkdsKJ7J1lNZ7HNqBcygh4M7AGCWDydE)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUmdGh8XIAAfLAX.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUmdGq5W4AA00Rn.jpg)

And to think the GAA men in suits want to copy the champions league type format.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on November 25, 2015, 11:31:59 AM
Arsenal seem to do better when Walcott isn't playing?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 25, 2015, 11:50:52 AM
Quote from: Denn Forever on November 25, 2015, 11:31:59 AM
Arsenal seem to do better when Walcott isn't playing?

Stats would suggest otherwise. Better win percentage with him than without.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 27, 2015, 04:52:20 PM
November is nearly over and still in the race.  8)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 28, 2015, 02:29:45 PM
Flam the man a crucial player for the next while.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 29, 2015, 10:56:24 PM
Bring yer boots next week.

Injuries now are crucifying them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 04, 2015, 03:22:18 PM
Corzola out for up to 3 months now. He'll be a big loss. What's the deal with injuries at arsenal is it just injury prone players, training methods??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 04, 2015, 03:26:17 PM
Discussed this with a friend the other day and what he said I thought made a lot of sense. Arsenal players are usually in possession and other sides make a lot more tackles on them. The injury to Sanchez (getting pushed into cameraman) was a bit freakish. Ramsey will have to stay fit and step up if they've any chance.

Other than that - they don't cheat like Chelsea who rarely have injuries :P
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: smort on December 04, 2015, 03:45:09 PM
Was it Rio that mentioned the other night on BTSport that the Arsenal training ground has an incredibly firm surface? Its obvious this aides their passing style but it must surely be a contributing factor to a lot of the injuries.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 04, 2015, 11:28:44 PM
A mixture of both. Some horrible luck from tackles and other players overplayed.

Walcott, for what it's worth, offers a freshness. They need it. Big Sam will be relishing tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 09, 2015, 09:46:30 PM
Treble is still on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 11, 2015, 08:24:21 PM
Be nice to have another easy draw like last year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on December 11, 2015, 09:04:57 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 09, 2015, 09:46:30 PM
Treble is still on.

Arsenal have that soft underbelly but Palace aside are the best attacking side to watch in the PL, no chance they win the league, they will drop points against teams they should beat enough times to undo them, I think they will finish second with LC city 3rd and Liverpool fourth, City will win it I believe.

The Christmas period will tell a tale, LC could have more points by the end of the xmas period that they got in the whole of last season, unreal.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 11, 2015, 10:44:26 PM
Since Vieira left in 2005, Wenger never had someone in the middle of the field who'll bring out the wing mirrors in opposing players. Vieira wasn't particularly hard but he put himself about when needed. And Parlour was clumsy enough to take the wind out of players. Wilshere, Ramsey, Ozil, Sanchez, Cazorla.......not exactly intimidating. Flamini can get involved but is stupid in the tackle.

Barca are similar but don't need brutes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on December 13, 2015, 02:19:26 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 11, 2015, 10:44:26 PM
Since Vieira left in 2005, Wenger never had someone in the middle of the field who'll bring out the wing mirrors in opposing players. Vieira wasn't particularly hard but he put himself about when needed. And Parlour was clumsy enough to take the wind out of players. Wilshere, Ramsey, Ozil, Sanchez, Cazorla.......not exactly intimidating. Flamini can get involved but is stupid in the tackle.

Barca are similar but don't need brutes.

Aye and both clubs are susceptible from set pieces.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 13, 2015, 03:26:33 PM
That was handy enough. Villa tried a bit harder in the second. 8 days rest badly needed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 14, 2015, 11:41:42 AM
Nasty enough draw for you boys!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on December 14, 2015, 11:43:01 AM
Round of 16 draw
Gent (BEL) v Wolfsburg (GER)
Roma (ITA) v Real Madrid (ESP)
Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) v Chelsea (ENG)
Arsenal (ENG) v Barcelona (ESP)
Juventus (ITA) v Bayern München (GER)
PSV Eindhoven (NED) v Atlético Madrid (ESP)
Benfica (POR) v Zenit (RUS)
Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) v Manchester City (ENG)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Canalman on December 14, 2015, 12:51:29 PM
Only now does the CL get interesting.

Four extremely interesting ties there in particular.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on December 14, 2015, 01:10:58 PM
City got the handiest draw of the English clubs, poor Arsenil, they are going to be beaten 9-0 on aggregate.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 14, 2015, 01:55:54 PM
Quote from: stew on December 14, 2015, 01:10:58 PM
City got the handiest draw of the English clubs, poor Arsenil, they are going to be beaten 9-0 on aggregate.

Who is it you mugs play again??

Better in it than not!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 14, 2015, 04:31:10 PM
Quote from: stew on December 14, 2015, 01:10:58 PM
City got the handiest draw of the English clubs, poor Arsenil, they are going to be beaten 9-0 on aggregate.

Quote from: stew on December 13, 2015, 01:17:56 AM
.......the closer I get to this fight the more I cant shake off a sensational first round knockout with McGregor unconscious, I hope I am wrong.

:D :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on December 21, 2015, 08:46:48 PM
no one going to stop the Arse
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on December 21, 2015, 10:05:35 PM
Great win.

But....

Ahead of Chelsea, United, City and Liverpool.

Clear of the likes of Spurs and Everton.

And yet still not top of the League.

I can't be bothered checking, but I reckon Arsenal are close to their usual 2 points average per game at this stage most seasons.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on December 21, 2015, 10:26:24 PM
Arsene's got real manly class, that hairspray is just spectacular, all hairs in perfect place.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 21, 2015, 10:32:43 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 21, 2015, 10:05:35 PM
Great win.

But....

Ahead of Chelsea, United, City and Liverpool.

Clear of the likes of Spurs and Everton.

And yet still not top of the League.

I can't be bothered checking, but I reckon Arsenal are close to their usual 2 points average per game at this stage most seasons.

That's was Carraghers assertion. He reckons Arsenal are basically the same as they have been but the rest of the teams have dropped a couple of levels which has them looking so good. Will be interesting to see if they can keep it up but the way the other 'big' clubs are performing they've a good a chance as they've had in a long long time!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 21, 2015, 10:46:07 PM
Yeah a great chance for them. Though they still should have added more then Cech in the summer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 21, 2015, 11:18:37 PM
Happy enough.

But Liverpool have a lot of history.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2015, 11:21:16 PM
I hope Arsenal and Wenger do it this year...

Brilliant lately at taking pressure and able to score a breakaway goal!!

Good players all over
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on December 21, 2015, 11:48:19 PM
Quote from: screenexile on December 21, 2015, 10:32:43 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 21, 2015, 10:05:35 PM
Great win.

But....

Ahead of Chelsea, United, City and Liverpool.

Clear of the likes of Spurs and Everton.

And yet still not top of the League.

I can't be bothered checking, but I reckon Arsenal are close to their usual 2 points average per game at this stage most seasons.

That's was Carraghers assertion. He reckons Arsenal are basically the same as they have been but the rest of the teams have dropped a couple of levels which has them looking so good. Will be interesting to see if they can keep it up but the way the other 'big' clubs are performing they've a good a chance as they've had in a long long time!!
That's typical Wenger reductionism from Carragher, even supposed Arsenal supporters are afflicted with it,  reducing Wenger's achievements by introducing other factors that are allegedly favourable. Who can forget the attribution of RVP's goal spree as saving Arsenal's season one year, only for Wenger to do better without Van Persie the next.
36 points from 17 games is a very good achievement and would have Arsenal either in first or second place most seasons. Arsenal have reached this points tally on their own merits and further vindication of Wenger's astounding, unparalleled durable merits as the current best coach in the game in the EPL.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 22, 2015, 09:27:04 AM
Arsenal extremely reliant on their starting 11 at the min. Badly need bodies back before a couple more break down. An injury to Ozil....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: JoG2 on December 22, 2015, 09:38:42 AM
any update on the Giroud injury? Went done badly in the 90th minute
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 22, 2015, 09:50:26 AM
He's a hardy lad. Theatrics aside, Giroud can take a tackle.

See Ozil was in bed all week with a chest infection.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: JoG2 on December 22, 2015, 10:08:41 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 22, 2015, 09:50:26 AM
He's a hardy lad. Theatrics aside, Giroud can take a tackle.

See Ozil was in bed all week with a chest infection.

;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 26, 2015, 08:10:11 PM
That was some goal by the southamoton guy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on December 26, 2015, 09:03:45 PM
Premiership inconsistency holding  this season with a top of the table team struggling against a mid table side!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 26, 2015, 09:05:40 PM
Poor flat performance.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 26, 2015, 09:10:51 PM
Arsenal at their whinging best. Losing the fight as well as the game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: annapr on December 26, 2015, 09:17:09 PM
Typical Arsenal, shit the togs when the top of the league is within reach.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on December 26, 2015, 09:18:54 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 26, 2015, 09:10:51 PM
Arsenal at their whinging best. Losing the fight as well as the game.

aka Liverpool last week. The premiership is so refreshing this season!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on December 26, 2015, 09:32:10 PM
Shane Long just horsing the two larrys around for fun
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 26, 2015, 09:38:30 PM
That side is out on its legs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2015, 11:15:43 AM
Comfortable last night. Now to fall over the line agin Newcastle and then play the stiffs in the cup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 29, 2015, 04:14:05 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 29, 2015, 11:15:43 AM
Comfortable last night. Now to fall over the line agin Newcastle and then play the stiffs in the cup.

Don't know any Arsenal fan surprised by the Southampton result. it's what Arsenal do. However Wenger played a blinder in blaming bad luck and the officials and the players responded with a comfortable win.

They'll add Elneny and one more in January then over the next few months Sanchez, Wilshere, Welbeck, Cazorla, Coquelin and Rosicky will all be phased back in giving a freshness and energy particularly Sanchez that should drive them close to the title.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 29, 2015, 04:18:58 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 29, 2015, 04:14:05 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 29, 2015, 11:15:43 AM
Comfortable last night. Now to fall over the line agin Newcastle and then play the stiffs in the cup.

Don't know any Arsenal fan surprised by the Southampton result. it's what Arsenal do. However Wenger played a blinder in blaming bad luck and the officials and the players responded with a comfortable win.



  At least someone played a blinder!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 29, 2015, 04:34:36 PM
Quote from: Gaffer on December 29, 2015, 04:18:58 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 29, 2015, 04:14:05 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 29, 2015, 11:15:43 AM
Comfortable last night. Now to fall over the line agin Newcastle and then play the stiffs in the cup.

Don't know any Arsenal fan surprised by the Southampton result. it's what Arsenal do. However Wenger played a blinder in blaming bad luck and the officials and the players responded with a comfortable win.



  At least someone played a blinder!

Shane Long and Wanyama did as well but personally I find performances like that dishonest, if they can perform like that against the 'big' clubs they should be able to do the same in every game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 02, 2016, 11:21:59 PM
Second best side today but a valuable win. Quare run of difficult games now. Be good to get some of Alexis, Le Coq, Wilshere, Cazorla, Rosicky back before March.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on January 03, 2016, 01:13:22 AM
Surprised to see Monreal get the run around that he got today, although the Ox, Ramsey and Flamini were leaving Oceans of space

Good to get the win. Great to get the win!! Really thought city were going to drop points - fantastic performance from Watford but 2 fantastic goals from City to see them through
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 15, 2016, 11:52:07 PM
Well how do yiz see the season now?

Getting Sanchez, Rosicky, Welbeck, Wilshere and Coq back will fairly strengthen the bench for the run-in. As long as no other major injuries, especially to Ozil or Giroud.

Liverpool game - disappointing. Despite looking like a hammering early on - should have been able to hold out. Although Leicester are holding up, City surely will string a few wins together soon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on January 16, 2016, 01:20:01 AM
Coquelin should regain his place over Flamini or Arteta easily. Sanchez will also be an automatic selection when fit, but who will be dropped. Joel Campbell has surely earned a starting jersey, or does Walcott deserve that place. My preferred mid-field at the moment would be Coquelin alongside Ramsey with Campbell Ozil and Sanchez in front. A bench of Walcott Wiltshire The Ox and Carzola would be a healthy situation for the run in. Good to see Giroud getting some credit for his goals which have kept the gunners at the top of the table.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on January 16, 2016, 02:49:25 PM
I am waiting for Arsenal to lose a few games against teams they should beat, that said with Ozil in the form of his life, Girou finally scoring goals for fun and Sanchez coming back, I think the Arse have what it takes, Citeh to finish second, the spuds third and the foxes fourth.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on January 16, 2016, 03:14:52 PM
Quote from: stew on January 16, 2016, 02:49:25 PM
I am waiting for Arsenal to lose a few games against teams they should beat, that said with Ozil in the form of his life, Girou finally scoring goals for fun and Sanchez coming back, I think the Arse have what it takes, Citeh to finish second, the spuds third and the foxes fourth.

Arsenals downfall will be failing to win games, like seeing wed night out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 24, 2016, 08:18:44 PM
It's like deja vu all over again.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2016, 08:57:37 PM
Theo fcukin Walcott. The lad's a hoax.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mouview on January 24, 2016, 11:28:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 24, 2016, 08:57:37 PM
Theo fcukin Walcott. The lad's a hoax.

The worst 'regarded' player in the Premier league? Worse than Milner?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on January 25, 2016, 01:03:57 AM
I don't know what the issue is here, just accept that 6 points are written off to Chelsea before the season starts and anything different is a bonus.
Playing with 10 men for over an hour  makes redundant any gripes about how Arsenal played in this particular encounter.
But sad to see such embarrassing  histrionics from Arsenal players trying to fool the ref into giving a major decisions in their favour.
Arsenal are willing scrappers but lightweight especially with the likes of Ozil, why on earth is Fabregas playing with Chelsea and not Arsenal, execute whoever fcked that one up.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syferus on January 25, 2016, 01:24:54 AM
Quote from: Main Street on January 25, 2016, 01:03:57 AM
I don't know what the issue is here, just accept that 6 points are written off to Chelsea before the season starts and anything different is a bonus.
Playing with 10 men for over an hour  makes redundant any gripes about how Arsenal played in this particular encounter.
But sad to see such embarrassing  histrionics from Arsenal players trying to fool the ref into giving a major decisions in their favour.
Arsenal are willing scrappers but lightweight especially with the likes of Ozil, why on earth is Fabregas playing with Chelsea and not Arsenal, execute whoever fcked that one up.

Arsenal don't need any more nice passers. Ozil is a better player now too and if they'd got Fab they'd probably not have been able to afford Sanchez who is one of the world's best.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on February 08, 2016, 03:58:21 PM
Still reckon we can pip Leicester and City to the title. City away at the Etihad on the last day, could it come down to that!

Leicester, United and Spurs all in the next month, with the latter two away. I think we'd need no less than 7 points from 9 here. Big ask but they have to show bottle some time, this has always been the stage of the season where Arsenal falter, then when there's no pressure cos they're out of the title race they suddenly come to life when competing for 4th in the last few games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 13, 2016, 10:55:55 PM
Interesting to see how the betting will change after tomorrow.

Can see Spurs winning at City.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on February 14, 2016, 12:46:05 PM
Surely an England international wouldn't be at that simulation/creating a penalty carry on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: StGallsGAA on February 14, 2016, 01:27:47 PM
Great acting by Giroud to get Simpson sent off. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: beer baron on February 14, 2016, 02:01:43 PM
Arsenal for Sam
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 14, 2016, 02:54:56 PM
That Welbeck winning goal could be seen as huge come the end of the season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on February 15, 2016, 11:00:31 AM
Remaning fixtures for the Gunners are brutal, with United & Spurs in the next month. Spurs @ White Hart Lane on 5th March is MASSIVE, IMO. City not to 2nd last game of the season, then in between you've crystal palace, west ham, watford, no easy games. If they win it this year no one can take it away from them, do you's think Leicester will still stay strong after yesterday?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on February 15, 2016, 11:17:06 AM
Long shot here, looking for any tickets for remaining games, obviously preferably at the Emirates, but not too fussy will go to away games, as we've quite a few other london based opposition. I've only gotten once before.  I'm taking my younger brother over,
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syferus on February 15, 2016, 02:06:27 PM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on February 15, 2016, 11:00:31 AM
Remaning fixtures for the Gunners are brutal, with United & Spurs in the next month. Spurs @ White Hart Lane on 5th March is MASSIVE, IMO. City not to 2nd last game of the season, then in between you've crystal palace, west ham, watford, no easy games. If they win it this year no one can take it away from them, do you's think Leicester will still stay strong after yesterday?

Arsenal are leagues ahead of United. They should only be dropping any points in the Spurs/City games.

Any other year I'd be rooting for Arsenal to win but Leicester are too stunning to go against. Even pulled off the near miracle of a draw yesterday. They'll be quietly happy with three points from two games away to the next best teams in the league.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: deiseach on February 15, 2016, 02:12:07 PM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on February 15, 2016, 11:17:06 AM
Long shot here, looking for any tickets for remaining games, obviously preferably at the Emirates, but not too fussy will go to away games, as we've quite a few other london based opposition. I've only gotten once before.  I'm taking my younger brother over,

You can try selling your younger brother but you'll still have to come up with some cash as part payment.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 15, 2016, 02:21:41 PM
It will end in tears and "told you so's"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on February 15, 2016, 02:35:11 PM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on February 15, 2016, 11:17:06 AM
Long shot here, looking for any tickets for remaining games, obviously preferably at the Emirates, but not too fussy will go to away games, as we've quite a few other london based opposition. I've only gotten once before.  I'm taking my younger brother over,

There are some on DoneDeal if you look...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2016, 09:45:17 PM
This Spurs game is massive though expecting Rooney to raise his game on Sunday week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 17, 2016, 09:25:52 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 16, 2016, 09:45:17 PM
This Spurs game is massive though expecting Rooney to raise his game on Sunday week.

They could have Mourinho in place by then as well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 23, 2016, 12:55:19 PM
5 years ago Arsenal where this chance (https://vimeo.com/45525786) from going through but Lord Bendtner showed why he wasn't TGFTEL.

Would be happy if Arsenal are in a similar position with 10mins to go in the second leg.

Wilshere dominated this fixture then, was only 19. A real what if.....

Arsenal should have won the league that year as well but collapsed in the run-in, what price.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on February 23, 2016, 09:34:47 PM
Can't believe all the empty seats at the Emirites! Not as if they were beaten by Midtjylland?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 23, 2016, 09:38:42 PM
The opening goal for Barcelona tonight was similar to these two goals.
http://youtu.be/jPlO2wwdprk happening to often for Wenger sides.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2016, 09:49:24 PM
While it was a well worked goal it's messi and he was unmarked. Can't do that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 23, 2016, 09:55:31 PM
At which point will Arsenal have the b@lls to bin Wenger. Around 20 odd goes at the CL and still no trophy.

This is also his best chance in years of winning the EPL and he will prob feck that up too. To Leicester. Or worse, Spurs.

Same old mistakes, same refusal to strengthen the team properly, same old Arsenal.

Fans paying extortionate ticket prices deserve much, much more.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on February 23, 2016, 10:08:20 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 23, 2016, 12:55:19 PM
5 years ago Arsenal where this chance (https://vimeo.com/45525786) from going through but Lord Bendtner showed why he wasn't TGFTEL.

Would be happy if Arsenal are in a similar position with 10mins to go in the second leg.

Wilshere dominated this fixture then, was only 19. A real what if.....

Arsenal should have won the league that year as well but collapsed in the run-in, what price.....
It was excellent defending which denied a very slight chance for Bendtner in a tie they were completely outplayed in.

Arsenal's best chance for the CL  was with that glorious team in the 2006 final  which they would have/could have won  but for a goalkeeping mishap. No epl team can live with Barca,  Bayern are the only team  who can stop Barca this year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on February 23, 2016, 10:10:33 PM
Arsenal used the excuse of the stadium debt for having an average squad and expensive ticket prices for years. They realised pretty quickly that the fans were happy with their new home and Wenger kept the coffers full with Champions League qualification year in year out.  7 years without a trophy and still no complaints. Arsenal seem happy enough to finish ahead of Spurs and in the top 4. Wenger offers stability for the board and is safe in keeping Arsenal top 4 with a FA Cup the last two years on a modest budget.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gold on February 23, 2016, 10:51:44 PM
Awk FFS dry your eyes....they were beaten by arguably the best club team in the history of the game.

They had chances but didnt have a second on the ball, relentlessly harrassed by Barca.

Get rid of Wenger?! WTF? I was laughing to my mates saying wait till you hear the idiots on five live calling for Wenger's Head..and lo and behold what do we have here!

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on February 23, 2016, 11:09:51 PM
QuoteAwk FFS dry your eyes....they were beaten by arguably the best club team in the history of the game.

Whilst this Barca team are good, they are not as good as the Xavi-Iniesta inspired team under Guardiola, despite the additions of Suarez and Neymar. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gold on February 24, 2016, 12:26:36 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on February 23, 2016, 11:09:51 PM
QuoteAwk FFS dry your eyes....they were beaten by arguably the best club team in the history of the game.

Whilst this Barca team are good, they are not as good as the Xavi-Iniesta inspired team under Guardiola, despite the additions of Suarez and Neymar.

Words cannot describe how good Xavi was....he and Iniesta together were a joy I was lucky enough to see in the not camp on more than one occasion

But that aside I think the two boys up front make them better....maybe. David Villa was unreal....Petrol and Alex is had their moments...but the 3 up front now take some beating

Look Arsenal had a punchers chance tonight but that was ithe.  The Ox should /could have done better and Girouds header could've crept in...but that was it. 1 Giroud is not equal to the magical Barca 3. Arsenal were slightly unlucky but at the same time on another day Suarez would've scored 2.

Arsenal didn't win the Champions League when they had the Invinciblesame. ..that was their chance
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Rossie11 on February 24, 2016, 05:35:59 AM
Going to the 2nd leg so was hoping Arsenal would keep it tight. Not to be.

Same as the Barca Bayern game last season. 50/50 all game but once Barca got the first it was over.
For the first goal I wouldn't be too harsh on Arsenal. They had their best attacking period of the game yet Barca still left 3 guys on the half way line. If the Gunners had scored the likes of Giles would be critical for not tracking back. However the risk and reward was high. Once the ball broke Arsenal were under pressure even with enough back as the defensive shape was gone. Saying that the passing was brilliant to create it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on February 24, 2016, 08:04:12 AM
Time to concentrate on finishing 4th,qualifying for next seasons Champions league and getting knocked out in the 2nd round.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on February 24, 2016, 10:17:15 AM
Quote from: laoislad on February 24, 2016, 08:04:12 AM
Time to concentrate on finishing 4th,qualifying for next seasons Champions league and getting knocked out in the 2nd round.

Time to focus on winning the league and automatically qualifying fir next years CL, more than the second best team in Liverpool will accomplish,  even with the hipster German at the helm.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 24, 2016, 09:18:39 PM
Quote from: Gold on February 23, 2016, 10:51:44 PM

Get rid of Wenger?! WTF? I was laughing to my mates saying wait till you hear the idiots on five live calling for Wenger's Head..and lo and behold what do we have here!

If you are a club whose ambition is to win the CL why would you keep him? He's further away than ever and repeats the same old mistakes year in year out. It looks fairly obvious that Arsenal will never win the CL with him at the helm as the gap between Arsenal and the Barca, Bayern etc from 2006 to the 2016 versions has only widened.

If all you want is top 4 and financial stability with some pretty football, then sure - keep him.

What's crazy is people thinking he's untouchable.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on February 24, 2016, 10:48:30 PM
Quote from: stew on February 24, 2016, 10:17:15 AM
Quote from: laoislad on February 24, 2016, 08:04:12 AM
Time to concentrate on finishing 4th,qualifying for next seasons Champions league and getting knocked out in the 2nd round.

Time to focus on winning the league and automatically qualifying fir next years CL, more than the second best team in Liverpool will accomplish,  even with the hipster German at the helm.

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 25, 2016, 10:36:25 PM
The reality is that Ox and Walcott are shit. Are you're as good as your weakest link at that level. It's a sad chapter in Wenger's annals that he kept faith with those two fraudsters.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 25, 2016, 10:55:46 PM
You're right about the Ox. And that was one of his better halves.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 26, 2016, 07:14:35 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 25, 2016, 10:36:25 PM
The reality is that Ox and Walcott are shit. Are you're as good as your weakest link at that level. It's a sad chapter in Wenger's annals that he kept faith with those two fraudsters.

Agree with Walcott, ever since 'sign the dam ting' he's been shot on a stick. Haven't lost hope with the Ox yet!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: stew on February 26, 2016, 09:10:48 AM
The Arse will hammer united this weekend, united are decimated by injuries and Arsenal will exploit Carrick in the middle of that defense, he is brutal in that role but I fully expect to win by 3 or 4 goals.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 26, 2016, 09:27:27 AM
Quote from: stew on February 26, 2016, 09:10:48 AM
The Arse will hammer united this weekend, united are decimated by injuries and Arsenal will exploit Carrick in the middle of that defense, he is brutal in that role but I fully expect to win by 3 or 4 goals.

Catch yourself on, when have Arsenal ever won by that amount at OT. WUM.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on February 26, 2016, 09:34:28 AM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on February 24, 2016, 10:48:30 PM
Quote from: stew on February 24, 2016, 10:17:15 AM
Quote from: laoislad on February 24, 2016, 08:04:12 AM
Time to concentrate on finishing 4th,qualifying for next seasons Champions league and getting knocked out in the 2nd round.

Time to focus on winning the league and automatically qualifying fir next years CL, more than the second best team in Liverpool will accomplish,  even with the hipster German at the helm.

;D ;D ;D
Careful Carmen, he'll think you're laughing with him not at him....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: sambostar on February 26, 2016, 09:45:18 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 25, 2016, 10:36:25 PM
The reality is that Ox and Walcott are shit. Are you're as good as your weakest link at that level. It's a sad chapter in Wenger's annals that he kept faith with those two fraudsters.

Agreed, had some hope for Ox but he's just Theo Mark2. His injury summed him up - racing away with loads of space but over-runs the ball & gets injured in the process. He's a headless chicken. No composure for the early chance either. Gunners should sell him, Walcott & Wilshere while they can still get decent money for them
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 26, 2016, 09:48:11 AM
Quote from: sambostar on February 26, 2016, 09:45:18 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 25, 2016, 10:36:25 PM
The reality is that Ox and Walcott are shit. Are you're as good as your weakest link at that level. It's a sad chapter in Wenger's annals that he kept faith with those two fraudsters.

Agreed, had some hope for Ox but he's just Theo Mark2. His injury summed him up - racing away with loads of space but over-runs the ball & gets injured in the process. He's a headless chicken. No composure for the early chance either. Gunners should sell him, Walcott & Wilshere while they can still get decent money for them

Said the exact same thing myself when he got hurt - he's for nothing!! I'd flog him and Wilshere for sure. Iwobi already looks a better player!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tiempo on February 26, 2016, 11:08:00 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 26, 2016, 09:48:11 AM
Quote from: sambostar on February 26, 2016, 09:45:18 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 25, 2016, 10:36:25 PM
The reality is that Ox and Walcott are shit. Are you're as good as your weakest link at that level. It's a sad chapter in Wenger's annals that he kept faith with those two fraudsters.

Agreed, had some hope for Ox but he's just Theo Mark2. His injury summed him up - racing away with loads of space but over-runs the ball & gets injured in the process. He's a headless chicken. No composure for the early chance either. Gunners should sell him, Walcott & Wilshere while they can still get decent money for them

Said the exact same thing myself when he got hurt - he's for nothing!! I'd flog him and Wilshere for sure. Iwobi already looks a better player!

Walcott is an athlete (sprinter) not a footballer
Ox is full of football but Wenger is ruining him
Hasn't improved in a while now and miles off his breakthrough performance against AC Milan 4 years ago which ironically was in central midfield. Wenger has to go.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 28, 2016, 02:44:40 PM
Walcott lost the ball and made no effort whatsoever to get it back.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orior on February 28, 2016, 02:50:55 PM
The quick blue fox is staying ahead of lazy gunners
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 28, 2016, 02:54:12 PM
Definitely entertaining... Rashford continuing his good form
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 28, 2016, 04:11:35 PM
Bottlers.

And Theo's on £140'000 a week. Seriously. Alexis' form a mess too.

A shower of shit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 28, 2016, 04:12:00 PM
Same old sh!t the bed from Arsenal at OT.......but sure...Wenger must stay.

Walcott, Welbeck, Ox, Gabriel all need the road. Add in Chambers and you got a question the money Wenger spends.

Anyone starting to realise why Barca didn't cry over Sanchez leaving?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 28, 2016, 04:18:27 PM
Embarrassing. Maybe Cazorla but that was Arsenal at strength against a raggle taggle outfit. Every fooking year. No wonder Ozil's head goes down when he sees the crap around him.

Even worse, Spurs might win it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 28, 2016, 04:21:11 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 15, 2016, 02:06:27 PM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on February 15, 2016, 11:00:31 AM
Remaning fixtures for the Gunners are brutal, with United & Spurs in the next month. Spurs @ White Hart Lane on 5th March is MASSIVE, IMO. City not to 2nd last game of the season, then in between you've crystal palace, west ham, watford, no easy games. If they win it this year no one can take it away from them, do you's think Leicester will still stay strong after yesterday?

Arsenal are leagues ahead of United. They should only be dropping any points in the Spurs/City games.



Was said on sky that Arsenal haven't won a league game in Old Trafford since 2006. Arsenal haven't improved one bit in recent years the rest around them aren't as good as they use to be.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syferus on February 28, 2016, 04:22:11 PM
Sanchez barely over a serious injury (Welbeck the same) and people have the neck to target him on the back of a ropey performance or two despite being one of the best players in the league over the last two seasons?

Arsenal fans would want to look at themselves first and foremost.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: seafoid on February 28, 2016, 04:38:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 28, 2016, 04:11:35 PM
Bottlers.

And Theo's on £140'000 a week. Seriously. Alexis' form a mess too.

A shower of shit.
even worse when the spuds win I imagine
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mouview on February 28, 2016, 08:59:15 PM
As I've asked here before, is Walcott the worst 'regarded' player in premier league? James Milner is maybe worse, but not quite as highly 'regarded'....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 29, 2016, 01:09:56 PM
I haven't read any posts but Arsenal under Wenger aren't going to change, there is a mental fragility that stems from his leadership, that won't go until he does. If you look through this thread it's a common and reoccurring theme. Tyroneman annoys me at times as he beats the same drum, that doesn't make him wrong and yesterday was just another example.

However you look at Liverpool and Man United and you can see that appointing the right manager to take a club forward is a hard science to get right. It's about attracting players, it's about developing players, it's about instilling belief and being tactical innovative. Diego Simone anyone?

The only thing Walcott has added to his game in 10 years is a beard. Shit on a stick.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Canalman on February 29, 2016, 01:15:45 PM
Spurs in a couple of weeks will be very interesting.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 29, 2016, 01:25:56 PM
Quote from: Canalman on February 29, 2016, 01:15:45 PM
Spurs in a couple of weeks will be very interesting.

This Saturday is it not, Spuds can draw.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: sensethetone on February 29, 2016, 01:35:08 PM
Might be following game is Spurs match.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 29, 2016, 02:46:41 PM
Spurs match this Saturday at lunch time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on February 29, 2016, 03:01:56 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 29, 2016, 01:09:56 PM
I haven't read any posts but Arsenal under Wenger aren't going to change, there is a mental fragility that stems from his leadership, that won't go until he does. If you look through this thread it's a common and reoccurring theme. Tyroneman annoys me at times as he beats the same drum, that doesn't make him wrong and yesterday was just another example.

However you look at Liverpool and Man United and you can see that appointing the right manager to take a club forward is a hard science to get right. It's about attracting players, it's about developing players, it's about instilling belief and being tactical innovative. Diego Simone anyone?

The only thing Walcott has added to his game in 10 years is a beard. Shit on a stick.

I'm happy with change for the sake of change. Sick and tired of the same  - bottling big games, CL second phase knockout, lack of leaders. I don't care if the club takes a hit and misses out on CL for a couple of years - as long as you can say, yip - these lads gave it their all. Arsenal players should be ashamed at their tame submission yesterday but they won't. Lads like Walcott will pocket the £140'000 and sent out the same old soundbites about fighting to the end etc when, in reality, they don't. Ever. Ozil and Alexis should pack their bags and head somewhere where they are surrounded by real players.

Arsene has always had a problem with the use of a 'captain'. It was glaring yesterday.

Finishing second, third or fourth.....blahhhhhh
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 29, 2016, 03:07:47 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 29, 2016, 03:01:56 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 29, 2016, 01:09:56 PM
I haven't read any posts but Arsenal under Wenger aren't going to change, there is a mental fragility that stems from his leadership, that won't go until he does. If you look through this thread it's a common and reoccurring theme. Tyroneman annoys me at times as he beats the same drum, that doesn't make him wrong and yesterday was just another example.

However you look at Liverpool and Man United and you can see that appointing the right manager to take a club forward is a hard science to get right. It's about attracting players, it's about developing players, it's about instilling belief and being tactical innovative. Diego Simone anyone?

The only thing Walcott has added to his game in 10 years is a beard. Shit on a stick.

I'm happy with change for the sake of change. Sick and tired of the same  - bottling big games, CL second phase knockout, lack of leaders. I don't care if the club takes a hit and misses out on CL for a couple of years - as long as you can say, yip - these lads gave it their all. Arsenal players should be ashamed at their tame submission yesterday but they won't. Lads like Walcott will pocket the £140'000 and sent out the same old soundbites about fighting to the end etc when, in reality, they don't. Ever. Ozil and Alexis should pack their bags and head somewhere where they are surrounded by real players.

Arsene has always had a problem with the use of a 'captain'. It was glaring yesterday.

Finishing second, third or fourth.....blahhhhhh

Back in 98' Adams and co had a pop at Wenger over the lack of defensive cover from the midfielders. Can't imagine any of those Arsenal players having a pop at Wenger. Lack of leadership is palpable indeed. I cringe when I hear Wenger talking about mental fortitude.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on February 29, 2016, 03:27:51 PM
No Totteringham's day this year!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: joemamas on February 29, 2016, 03:30:24 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 29, 2016, 03:07:47 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 29, 2016, 03:01:56 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 29, 2016, 01:09:56 PM
I haven't read any posts but Arsenal under Wenger aren't going to change, there is a mental fragility that stems from his leadership, that won't go until he does. If you look through this thread it's a common and reoccurring theme. Tyroneman annoys me at times as he beats the same drum, that doesn't make him wrong and yesterday was just another example.

However you look at Liverpool and Man United and you can see that appointing the right manager to take a club forward is a hard science to get right. It's about attracting players, it's about developing players, it's about instilling belief and being tactical innovative. Diego Simone anyone?

The only thing Walcott has added to his game in 10 years is a beard. Shit on a stick.

I'm happy with change for the sake of change. Sick and tired of the same  - bottling big games, CL second phase knockout, lack of leaders. I don't care if the club takes a hit and misses out on CL for a couple of years - as long as you can say, yip - these lads gave it their all. Arsenal players should be ashamed at their tame submission yesterday but they won't. Lads like Walcott will pocket the £140'000 and sent out the same old soundbites about fighting to the end etc when, in reality, they don't. Ever. Ozil and Alexis should pack their bags and head somewhere where they are surrounded by real players.

Arsene has always had a problem with the use of a 'captain'. It was glaring yesterday.

Finishing second, third or fourth.....blahhhhhh

Back in 98' Adams and co had a pop at Wenger over the lack of defensive cover from the midfielders. Can't imagine any of those Arsenal players having a pop at Wenger. Lack of leadership is palpable indeed. I cringe when I hear Wenger talking about mental fortitude.

Sickening to watch.

Need a quality striker and a mobile center back.
If Wenger has any you know what he would send Walcott to train with the reserves or youth team.
They have bought some very average players over past four or five years.
Frustrating to say the least, the title was within their grasp, now slipping away.

Well at least the owners are happy, another top four finish, shag all spent.
Loads of money, loads.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 29, 2016, 03:36:20 PM
The continent and South America is full of young, hungry footballers who would be willing to fight. Pampered brats like Walcott, Chamberlain and Wilshere will get you nowhere! Pathetic outfit with 8 million a year Wenger chief culprit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 29, 2016, 05:03:14 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 29, 2016, 01:09:56 PM
I haven't read any posts but Arsenal under Wenger aren't going to change, there is a mental fragility that stems from his leadership, that won't go until he does. If you look through this thread it's a common and reoccurring theme. Tyroneman annoys me at times as he beats the same drum, that doesn't make him wrong and yesterday was just another example.

However you look at Liverpool and Man United and you can see that appointing the right manager to take a club forward is a hard science to get right. It's about attracting players, it's about developing players, it's about instilling belief and being tactical innovative. Diego Simone anyone?

The only thing Walcott has added to his game in 10 years is a beard. Shit on a stick.

The only reason I beat the same drum is that the same frailties are present year after year.

It's just so frustrating that Arsenal always seem so very close to winning the EPL or progressing in the CL but never quite manage it and the postmortem continually leads back to some form of stubbornness from Wenger.

If he filled the obvious gaps (DM, striker, CH) and gave it a lash then fair enough but he always enters a season behind the curve in some shape or form personnel wise.

This year however Spurs and Leicester potentially (probably) finishing higher exposes him even more as they illustrate what good tactics, shrewd purchases and solid mentality can do for seemingly lesser (on paper) clubs.

All qualities that Wenger once had present at Arsenal..........


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 29, 2016, 10:22:28 PM
Do Arsenal fans want Wenger out or do you like 'stability' (new buzzeord) of finishing in the top 4 every year? If he left, would those guarantees be gone?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on March 02, 2016, 12:15:35 AM
Tyroneman is spot on. I haven't been on the thread for a while but I was hopeful lately that we might actually win the league, the run in of games was always going to be tough, even before United it was a much tougher remaining fixture list than that of Spurs and Leicester.

There is NO way Wenger can defend himself at the end of this season if Spurs or Leicester win the title. Not a chance, If Man City or Chelsea had have been in the running then he would have threw the "ah sure they have all the money in the world to spend it wouldn't matter who I would've bought". But for Leicester and Spurs, both with considerably less transfer kitty's in the windows to not only finish above you but to look like more complete football teams is a disgrace. I cannot defend Wenger anymore, he must be axed if this is the outcome.
Was ironically watching premiership years last night, 98 winning season and the last few fixtures of the season United were hot on their tail, they steal rolled everyone, real leaders and the goals came from everywhere - Overmars, Vieira commanding midfield, they clinched the title in a brilliant performance against Everton where Tony Adams went on a run from centre back and scored a strikers goal to hammer them 4-0, grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck.

Who the f*ck in this current crop would do that?? Yes surely Sanchez is unreal, and so is Ozil. But they aren't those sort of men who get stuck in for you on the cold, wet Tuesday nights in Stoke. Ramsey, wilshere, Ox, Walcott, Giroud to name a few, get them all out to f*ck on their hole. Happy to take their wage every week and lie down to any team with a bit of bite in them. Who are these men were buying ??? Elneny, an Egyptian unknown from the Swiss league, Jesus Christ. Peter Cech Sanchez and Ozil have been the only stars bought in the last few years, and The rest just aren't consistent.
The back line , I've defended Koscielny but as for this season he just seems to be a headless chicken, and don't get me started on Mertesacker, he's so slow he goes backwards when he starts to run.

Rant over!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: highorlow on March 02, 2016, 09:22:42 PM
2-1. Down to Swansea at home now. Absolute disaster!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 02, 2016, 09:34:06 PM
Hope it doesn't snow tonight. Was treacherous enough this morning.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: seafoid on March 02, 2016, 09:40:00 PM
2-1 down is very poor innit
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 02, 2016, 09:41:48 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/vHeF9ZY.gif)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 02, 2016, 09:43:48 PM
Wenger........ah fcuk it...what's the point.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 02, 2016, 09:47:16 PM
Win the next 10.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 02, 2016, 10:39:16 PM
Its ok.

Swansea have become our bogey team.



Along with all the rest of the teams that we play when the pressure is on.

Jaysus imagine if there was ever a season battling relegation!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 02, 2016, 11:14:45 PM
I think the only reason they beat Leicester was cos Wenger showed them last years table
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on March 03, 2016, 09:23:23 AM
If can beat Spurs Saturday we're level with them joint second on 54 points, although could be doing Leicester a favour if they win they'll be 6 points clear with 60!!

I really can't see it at this stage but IF they win Saturday, you never know.. Barcelona and the FA Cup would be better out of the way IMO.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2016, 10:05:21 AM
Who are the realistic options to replace Wenger? I cant think of many of the top of my head.

I'd be shocked if he goes at the end of this year - think his current deal runs until the end of next year.

Could Joachim Low be an option or too long in international football?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 03, 2016, 11:34:24 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2016, 10:05:21 AM
Who are the realistic options to replace Wenger? I cant think of many of the top of my head.

I'd be shocked if he goes at the end of this year - think his current deal runs until the end of next year.

Could Joachim Low be an option or too long in international football?

I would appoint Conor McGregor manager for the rest of the season. After that they should be ready for a proper manager.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on March 03, 2016, 11:39:12 AM
Quote from: muppet on March 03, 2016, 11:34:24 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2016, 10:05:21 AM
Who are the realistic options to replace Wenger? I cant think of many of the top of my head.

I'd be shocked if he goes at the end of this year - think his current deal runs until the end of next year.

Could Joachim Low be an option or too long in international football?

I would appoint Conor McGregor manager for the rest of the season. After that they should be ready for a proper manager.

You might be right.  Or threaten them with Sam Allardyce. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 03, 2016, 11:42:52 AM
We should have a referendum on a Wexit!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 03, 2016, 11:52:01 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 03, 2016, 11:42:52 AM
We should have a referendum on a Wexit!

Or Arse-out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gaah_man on March 03, 2016, 11:58:32 AM
Surely time for AW to step away at the end of the season.

The last two performances have been nothing more than bull shit. Defence is a shambles (What exactly does Steve Bould do with them in training?) and no world class goal scorer is the difference (as usual) in being top of the league and now struggling to keep in the top 4.

Diego Simeone should be targeted asap. Great style of play  , similar to Wenger, but players expected to get stuck in and if not he'll kick their arse himself!

Finally Ox, Walcott and Wilshere are not good enough and need sold on for ridiculous sums (which they will fetch being English). Arteta, Flamini, Rosicky have given their all but need to be put to the knackers yard!

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 03, 2016, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2016, 10:05:21 AM
Who are the realistic options to replace Wenger? I cant think of many of the top of my head.

I'd be shocked if he goes at the end of this year - think his current deal runs until the end of next year.

Could Joachim Low be an option or too long in international football?

Koeman will tick a lot of boxes for the Arsenal directors.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 03, 2016, 06:25:14 PM
Sam Smith
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: joemamas on March 03, 2016, 06:52:33 PM
Quote from: gaah_man on March 03, 2016, 11:58:32 AM
Surely time for AW to step away at the end of the season.

The last two performances have been nothing more than bull shit. Defence is a shambles (What exactly does Steve Bould do with them in training?) and no world class goal scorer is the difference (as usual) in being top of the league and now struggling to keep in the top 4.

Diego Simeone should be targeted asap. Great style of play  , similar to Wenger, but players expected to get stuck in and if not he'll kick their arse himself!

Finally Ox, Walcott and Wilshere are not good enough and need sold on for ridiculous sums (which they will fetch being English). Arteta, Flamini, Rosicky have given their all but need to be put to the knackers yard!


Finally Ox, Walcott and Wilshere are not good enough and need sold on for ridiculous sums (which they will fetch being English).

Could not agree more. Totally overrated English soccer players.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: joemamas on March 03, 2016, 06:55:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 03, 2016, 06:25:14 PM
Sam Smith

John Maughan or Tommy (sorry Tom) Carr.

On a serious note, like the Simeone idea. Too many fancy footballers with no guts for my liking.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 03, 2016, 10:34:07 PM
It's sad what is happening to Wenger. His side are a shadow of the squad he used to assemble. The mad thing is, one good performance v Spurs and they're still in the running for the shittiest champions ever.

I think Spurs should put a stake through his heart. After 20 years of hurt, we can give them that?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 04, 2016, 12:33:59 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 03, 2016, 10:34:07 PM
It's sad what is happening to Wenger. His side are a shadow of the squad he used to assemble. The mad thing is, one good performance v Spurs and they're still in the running for the shittiest champions ever.

I think Spurs should but a stake through his heart. After 20 years of hurt, we can give them that?

Still it's going to be

(https://regmedia.co.uk/2014/04/21/fingers_in_ears.jpg?x=648&y=348&crop=1)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2016, 10:00:00 PM
13 hours to Armageddon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 04, 2016, 11:14:32 PM
Just read this today....If you'd had a £1 bet with a friend in 1995-96 that Arsenal would finish above Spurs, and they'd insisted on 'double or quits' every year they lost, they would've owed you £524,888 at the end of last season.

Could this be the end of an era?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on March 05, 2016, 12:21:55 PM
Shit or get off the pot time
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 05, 2016, 01:34:04 PM
Ramsey scores,  who is looking over their shoulder for Death?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: laoislad on March 05, 2016, 01:35:45 PM
Great goal in fairness
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2016, 01:37:30 PM
Draw written all over this... 5/2
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Saffrongael on March 05, 2016, 01:51:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2016, 01:37:30 PM
Draw written all over this... 5/2

Where would we be without JP McManus
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2016, 02:05:45 PM
That escalated quickly!! JP does horse .. But you'd know that
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: joemamas on March 05, 2016, 02:07:53 PM
Feel for Wenger.
He cannot legislate for stupidity or for Harry Kane getting same player second yellow
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: StGallsGAA on March 05, 2016, 02:10:22 PM
Quote
Just read this today....If you'd had a £1 bet with a friend in 1995-96 that Arsenal would finish above Spurs, and they'd insisted on 'double or quits' every year they lost, they would've owed you £524,888 at the end of last season.

Looks like this season you'd owe him the cool £1mill ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 05, 2016, 02:12:25 PM
St Totteringham's Day is no longer on the calendar!😀😀😀😀😀😀
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: joemamas on March 05, 2016, 02:13:10 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on March 05, 2016, 02:10:22 PM
Quote
Just read this today....If you'd had a £1 bet with a friend in 1995-96 that Arsenal would finish above Spurs, and they'd insisted on 'double or quits' every year they lost, they would've owed you £524,888 at the end of last season.

Looks like this season you'd owe him the cool £1mill ;)

Would it be quits?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2016, 02:15:42 PM
And I did it myyyyyyyyyyy wayyyyyyy
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 05, 2016, 02:18:39 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on March 05, 2016, 02:12:25 PM
St Totteringham's Day is no longer on the calendar!😀😀😀😀😀😀

hold your horses!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on March 05, 2016, 02:37:08 PM
Arsenal have to be the happier there. Great result for Leicester.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: fearsiuil on March 05, 2016, 02:38:39 PM
Leicester win in late kick off away to Watford would be nice.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2016, 02:58:49 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 05, 2016, 01:51:06 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2016, 01:37:30 PM
Draw written all over this... 5/2

Where would we be without JP McManus

Dcik  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tiempo on March 13, 2016, 03:47:59 PM
From the manager that brought us Mikael Silvestre.

Truely horrendous collapse in the last 10 weeks. Has to go.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 13, 2016, 05:01:19 PM
Look forward to Wengers excuses this week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on March 14, 2016, 10:13:15 AM
Again he came out with his usual post match comments yesterday (French twang) "Watford were very phys-ic-ally strong" bla bla bla, then he reckons they didn't deserve to lose the game?? Did he watch the highlights yet? They were completely out-played. I think it's safe to say now that Gabriel is another one to add to the long list of flop "not-up-to-it" signings.

Brought on Welbeck when it was too late, to be fair to him he's been good since he came back. That Giroud man couldn't finish his dinner. Amount of chances it takes him to convert, 1 in every 5 attempts, f*cking useless.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on March 14, 2016, 11:31:08 PM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on March 14, 2016, 10:13:15 AM
Again he came out with his usual post match comments yesterday (French twang) "Watford were very phys-ic-ally strong" bla bla bla, then he reckons they didn't deserve to lose the game?? Did he watch the highlights yet? They were completely out-played. I think it's safe to say now that Gabriel is another one to add to the long list of flop "not-up-to-it" signings.

Brought on Welbeck when it was too late, to be fair to him he's been good since he came back. That Giroud man couldn't finish his dinner. Amount of chances it takes him to convert, 1 in every 5 attempts, f*cking useless.
Quite frankly this is one idiotic and ethnically insulting post. Adds fuel to the fire,  that in the main, Arsenal's antagonists are clueless bandwagonners who have no connection to the club.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on March 16, 2016, 09:54:09 AM
Quote from: Main Street on March 14, 2016, 11:31:08 PM
Quote from: 50fiftyball on March 14, 2016, 10:13:15 AM
Again he came out with his usual post match comments yesterday (French twang) "Watford were very phys-ic-ally strong" bla bla bla, then he reckons they didn't deserve to lose the game?? Did he watch the highlights yet? They were completely out-played. I think it's safe to say now that Gabriel is another one to add to the long list of flop "not-up-to-it" signings.

Brought on Welbeck when it was too late, to be fair to him he's been good since he came back. That Giroud man couldn't finish his dinner. Amount of chances it takes him to convert, 1 in every 5 attempts, f*cking useless.
Quite frankly this is one idiotic and ethnically insulting post. Adds fuel to the fire,  that in the main, Arsenal's antagonists are clueless bandwagonners who have no connection to the club.

Hold on a minute here Main Street, I'm hoping your a "WUM" after that statement! Wise up, ethnically insulting? Catch a grip, or start your own pro-PC thread. Idiotic - most definitely not. If you've cast your eye over any of the articles written both online and in newspapers by journalists over the last week or so, including greats such as Ian Wright may I add, there's a sense of "the time has come" which is plain to see in their writings.
Yes, he does deserve respect, he's one of the last long-serving managers and will go down as a legend in the club, but if you were an arsenal supporter (are you even?) you'd understand my frustration. And I'm no bandwagoner  ;D The board need to get a hold of things here and deal with it professionally, or have showdown talks with Arsene if he is to fulfil his contract to it ends in 2017.

No more falling over and having their belly tickled at the business end of the season, look at the team that started in 2006 champions league final vs today's team , tell me where the leaders are.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 16, 2016, 09:04:01 PM
And Welbeck, for all his athleticism and willingness to work for the teamshows shows why he will never be a top striker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2016, 10:47:33 PM
A definite last chance tomorrow. Everything is pointing at an Everton win, although I thought the same at Spurs. Surely they know that and will fcuk it into them for 90 mins and if it's not enough then so be it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on March 19, 2016, 09:02:38 AM
Now that the GAA Club Championship is over, have City or Chelsea won the League yet? When was St. Totteringham's Day and how are we fixed for 4th?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: seafoid on March 19, 2016, 10:10:27 AM
It's all Wenger's fault. That guardian journalist said Arse v Barse was like Shakin Stevens v Elvis.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2016, 10:23:09 PM
Typical Arsenal. When the pressure's off, they'll relax and stretch the legs. Need to catch these Spuds.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 31, 2016, 02:14:43 PM
"Nacho Monreal says that Arsenal have turned their form around by sticking together and defending as a team." Oh Nacho, what a tribute to Ronnie Corbett. A natural.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2016, 10:44:46 PM
More gay abandon today when the shackles are off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 09, 2016, 08:11:25 PM
Spineless hoors. Wenger out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on April 09, 2016, 08:16:26 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 09, 2016, 08:11:25 PM
Spineless hoors. Wenger out.

In fairness they did grab a draw from the jaws of Victory!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 17, 2016, 06:43:02 PM
Great win for the Arse Ladies.

Meanwhile, in Walcottland - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-hVmC9YQos
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 17, 2016, 11:07:40 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 09, 2016, 08:11:25 PM
Spineless hoors. Wenger out.

Beat your bet ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 18, 2016, 10:29:24 AM
Wexit!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on April 18, 2016, 10:39:28 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 18, 2016, 10:29:24 AM
Wexit!

Is he gone?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 18, 2016, 10:45:51 AM
No just my favourite portmanteau at the moment.

It's the usual Arsenal stick or twist with Wenger, they're not even playing good football anymore.

Arsenal are very conservative (not a bad thing) so Wenger is not going anywhere but in a parallel universe they are about to appoint a Simone or Emery and Dinny is excited.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on April 18, 2016, 12:47:54 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 18, 2016, 10:29:24 AM
Wexit!

Arsexit??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on April 18, 2016, 09:37:17 PM
1995. The last time St Totteringham's Day didn't happen. I was a scruffy long haired student. Ireland were deadly at the Eurovision. Paddy Russell and Jayo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 18, 2016, 11:32:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 18, 2016, 09:37:17 PM
1995. The last time St Totteringham's Day didn't happen. I was a scruffy long haired student. Ireland were deadly at the Eurovision. Paddy Russell and Jayo.
Well Dublin might beat Tyrone in another AIF this year so enjoy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 25, 2016, 05:44:09 PM
How are the ladies going this year? See the u21s bottled winning their league and probably promotion too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 30, 2016, 05:48:37 PM
Time for a change poster protest going on during the game. Very disrespectful to Wenger, be careful what you wish for..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on April 30, 2016, 06:25:47 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 30, 2016, 05:48:37 PM
Time for a change poster protest going on during the game. Very disrespectful to Wenger, be careful what you wish for..

It wasn't clear to me how much of it was the protest and how much was other supporters backing him.. Supposed to happen again with 12 mins left.

It's mad really when you think about it..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on May 11, 2016, 04:49:35 PM
Welbeck out for nine months.. Poor ****
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 14, 2016, 03:33:22 PM
Arsenal Ladies going well. Up the Arse!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 15, 2016, 05:53:05 PM
Happy St Totteringham's day Gooners. Have a pint.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: gawa316 on May 15, 2016, 09:52:48 PM
Wenger to stay after guiding the gooners to 2nd surely?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on May 15, 2016, 09:54:39 PM
Probably always say this at this time but surely it's a watershed summer - buy badly and he's fcuked.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 23, 2016, 12:20:04 PM
 Wenger's reign at Arsenal (7,174 days) now comfortably outstrips all other managers at current PL clubs combined (6,674 days)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syferus on May 23, 2016, 01:02:58 PM
If Wenger could get away with a starting 11 made up entirely of midfielders he'd probably do it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 23, 2016, 09:13:14 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 23, 2016, 01:02:58 PM
If Wenger could get away with a starting 11 made up entirely of midfielders he'd probably do it.

Who was it that said Roscommon have 7 first choice midfielders?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on May 25, 2016, 12:00:20 PM
And..... Another midfielder! Welcome Xhaka.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on May 25, 2016, 01:32:49 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on May 25, 2016, 12:00:20 PM
And..... Another midfielder! Welcome Xhaka.

Yes Xhaka can.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 03, 2016, 07:28:33 PM
Arsenal making a play for Vardy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on June 03, 2016, 08:55:44 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 03, 2016, 07:28:33 PM
Arsenal making a play for Vardy.
they've triggered his release clause according to 5live. interesting to see if leicester can hold on their top players this summer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ballinaman on June 03, 2016, 08:59:41 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 03, 2016, 07:28:33 PM
Arsenal making a play for Vardy.
Interesting, his game is based on counter attacking football, long ball over the top. Arsenal midfield not known for it putting it mildly.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 03, 2016, 11:04:21 PM
A completely untypical Arsene Wenger signing, which is maybe just what Arsenal need.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on June 03, 2016, 11:09:49 PM
Jeffers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on June 04, 2016, 08:11:19 AM
Utterly the wrong signing for Arsenal, based on what I've seen of Vardy so far. Unless Wenger has decided he can't go toe to toe with the big teams and is planning on a Tyrone / Donegal / Cavan like defend deep and hit on break approach.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Armamike on June 04, 2016, 01:56:29 PM
Have they offered one quid over the release amount?  Will be interesting to see if Leicester can hold on to their main players.  It's difficult for the likes of Leicester. Once clubs like this stick their head above the paraphet the bigger clubs come circling like vultures.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 05, 2016, 03:27:53 AM
Sensible choice for Arsenal and for Vardy with little competition at the club. His pace would offer something very different to the beanpole they have and make them a more dynamic team. For the money it's pretty good value even considering he's turned 29. Homegrown players cost more and with the new tv money coming online player prices are sure to inflate even more.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: GJL on June 24, 2016, 12:24:55 PM
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13516606_10154019878304279_2875421105845643019_n.jpg?oh=11e8361d66872f765fb2cdf7875463a3&oe=5809664E)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 09, 2016, 11:44:36 AM
Exciting squad accumulated.

Should be a momentous year.

String of great results in October, get through the CL group.....you know the rest....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on August 11, 2016, 02:10:43 PM
It might not turn out to be that bad of a window - Sky Sports confirmed that Mustafi has agreed to join, a fee now has to be agreed between clubs. If (a big if) we add a top class striker in addition to him before the end of the window. Things could be looking better. I expect him to add a striker with Giroud and Welbeck out, although then again who can predict Arsene..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 11, 2016, 03:01:00 PM
Love Wenger, "You can see how much it hates the media generated furor around transfers".

A good transfer window is now a thing, wtf! Shows a "statement of intent". Transfer windows are the singular worst thing about football.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 14, 2016, 06:00:11 PM
Excellent!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on August 14, 2016, 06:01:41 PM
This is our year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 14, 2016, 06:06:56 PM
Seriously though. Saw this coming a mile off. Everyone did. Should never have been fielding a side like that.

Aaarrgghhh. Leicester next.

Wouldn't blame Ozil and Sanchez if they failed to put pen to paper.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2016, 06:08:20 PM
All those new signings will take time to settle and gel.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 14, 2016, 06:16:23 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2016, 06:08:20 PM
All those new signings will take time to settle and gel.

True, true. Especially sitting on the bench.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 14, 2016, 06:20:43 PM
Wenger has hinted it is his last season, don't know why he didn't do a Ferguson and just splash the cash and go all out. He owes Arsenal nothing and the fans would have loved him for it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: redhandofgod on August 15, 2016, 02:26:35 PM
Wenger basically fielded a reserve team in a senior match yesterday. 4 guaranteed starters!
Ramsey played at Euros and Sanchez played in Copa America, what differs from allowing these 2 to play but not play Koscielny, giroud or ozil? Surely he should have played Koscielny and if he needs a rest give it to him when he gets guys fit. They are professionals ffs!! Chambers at centre back? u'd be safer with a chambers bus, it would be quicker turning and have more brains!
Ramsey shouldn't be near the team anyway. Overrated and no defence discipline whatsoever.
Wengers last year, he shoulda broke than bank and give it one last hooray
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Maroon Manc on August 15, 2016, 03:14:23 PM
Quote from: redhandofgod on August 15, 2016, 02:26:35 PM
Wenger basically fielded a reserve team in a senior match yesterday. 4 guaranteed starters!
Ramsey played at Euros and Sanchez played in Copa America, what differs from allowing these 2 to play but not play Koscielny, giroud or ozil? Surely he should have played Koscielny and if he needs a rest give it to him when he gets guys fit. They are professionals ffs!! Chambers at centre back? u'd be safer with a chambers bus, it would be quicker turning and have more brains!
Ramsey shouldn't be near the team anyway. Overrated and no defence discipline whatsoever.
Wengers last year, he shoulda broke than bank and give it one last hooray

Looks like 6 starters to me and a few more on the bench.

Don't get Wenger, Arsenal have been desperate for a good centre half and centre forward for years and he's still not done anything about it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Orior on August 15, 2016, 09:50:48 PM
Not Arsenal related but what is the safest way to buy tickets for a West Ham home game?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on August 16, 2016, 06:57:45 AM
Become a red member (about 30 quid for the year. ) and log in with your membership number and join the queue for tickets. Even if it sells out you can get some on ticket exchange. One ticket per membership though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 20, 2016, 07:05:44 PM
Is arsene watching the same game I am? Ox off, Coq still on with a yellow. Walcott still on. Wtf.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 20, 2016, 07:19:33 PM
Walcott is simply dreadful. A player that offers nothing intelligent on the pitch.

Sanchez has been worse today, clearly incapable of playing as the main striker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 20, 2016, 08:19:17 PM
It's all a load of bollocks. You read back over this thread and it's groundhog day since 2008. I get no satisfaction of being in the top 4 for 20 years, or competing for a while every year in the CL. It's all bland and monotonous. It might be a dream come true for some but after 2 decades of it.....and no nearer to the title or the CL for 12 years.

The quality of the football, something that gave Wenger a by-ball in previous years, is average now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on August 20, 2016, 09:26:56 PM
Arsenal now exist to make money for Silent Stan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 21, 2016, 10:01:37 AM
Wenger has lost his horn, impotent football from Arsenal.

Arsenal's problems won't be resolved by spending millions in the transfer market.

From ownership to manager to players to culture Arsenal are on a downward spiral.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: thewobbler on August 21, 2016, 10:34:38 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 21, 2016, 10:01:37 AM
Wenger has lost his horn, impotent football from Arsenal.

Arsenal's problems won't be resolved by spending millions in the transfer market.

From ownership to manager to players to culture Arsenal are on a downward spiral

You might want to try supporting Leeds, Villa or Newcastle to really learn what a downward spiral is. Or even Liverpool or Everton to some extent. But it's sure as f**k not something that happens when you finish 2nd in the league (unless you've won it a couple of years in a row).

While I'm sure it has to be a tad repetitive the past decade, when you consider that there are two billionaire plaything clubs and Adidas's billion pound plaything project in the EPL - yet Wenger continues to make his team competitive - that Arsenal's trajectory after replacing Wenger is much more likely to head south than north.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 26, 2016, 12:21:00 PM
Finally two signings needed but why wait till five points behind in the league and the fact you know there was a defensive crisis.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on August 28, 2016, 11:14:03 PM
Good result yesterday, without the 2 new signings.

Its time, for the critics who listen too much from Piers Morgan, to get behind Arsene and the team and stop whinging about no spending.

BTW I really like the third kit which was worn this weekend. Unfortunately that seems to be its only outing in this years Premier League..

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: trileacman on August 29, 2016, 01:20:39 PM
I don't watch Arsenal enough to know if theyre stuck in the same 10 year rut but they probably are.

This thread is at Groundhog day though, you've the same bitch on here year in year out, no money spent, need a defender, need a striker, Walcott's shite. In the cold reality of it there's not much better you could be doing. What to know what a downward spiral is? Watch your team drift into obscurity? As the man said, support Leeds, Villa or Newcastle, before that it was Wimbledon and Nott Forest. To a lesser extent look at Liverpool. We bounce around the table and there's a few ups and an awful lot of downs but could you happily switch Arsenal's current situation with Liverpools or Spurs? Because in reality that's what you are. Given the money you spend without Wenger that is Arsenal's level.

People assume that without Wenger Arsenals trajectory could only ascend. The opposite is true, Arsenal have much, much more room to slide than they have to improve.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 29, 2016, 09:23:31 PM
You have to be a supporter to understand. Arsenal exist to make money for its owners, who do not demand trophies or that money be ploughed into the squad to freshen it up. Arsene is a sure thing every year to qualify for the CL and that's enough for the board. Arsenal are a business first and foremost with an excellent manager at keeping the figures in the black whilst qualifying the club for the biggest cash cow competition out there every year.

It's been said before on here to be careful what you wish for. But when there's zero satisfaction from the monotony of a top 4 finish, lily-livered football at the business end, further every year from the big prizes, staleness around the ground, worsening quality of football and footballer, you understand why I'd take a fresh angle. Even a relegation scrap is something! There's a lack of identity and the fans are disaffected. The move to the Emirates has produced fcuk all memories in the 10 years they've been there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: trileacman on August 29, 2016, 10:01:10 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 29, 2016, 09:23:31 PM
You have to be a supporter to understand. Arsenal exist to make money for its owners, who do not demand trophies or that money be ploughed into the squad to freshen it up. Arsene is a sure thing every year to qualify for the CL and that's enough for the board. Arsenal are a business first and foremost with an excellent manager at keeping the figures in the black whilst qualifying the club for the biggest cash cow competition out there every year.

It's been said before on here to be careful what you wish for. But when there's zero satisfaction from the monotony of a top 4 finish, lily-livered football at the business end, further every year from the big prizes, staleness around the ground, worsening quality of football and footballer, you understand why I'd take a fresh angle. Even a relegation scrap is something! There's a lack of identity and the fans are disaffected. The move to the Emirates has produced fcuk all memories in the 10 years they've been there.

That's fine if you accept it.

But do you and the rest of the Gunners fans really wish to see your limited success swapped for the more entertaining but ultimately much more disappointing roller coaster enjoyed by the spuds and Liverpool?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Boycey on August 29, 2016, 10:30:29 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 29, 2016, 10:01:10 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 29, 2016, 09:23:31 PM
You have to be a supporter to understand. Arsenal exist to make money for its owners, who do not demand trophies or that money be ploughed into the squad to freshen it up. Arsene is a sure thing every year to qualify for the CL and that's enough for the board. Arsenal are a business first and foremost with an excellent manager at keeping the figures in the black whilst qualifying the club for the biggest cash cow competition out there every year.

It's been said before on here to be careful what you wish for. But when there's zero satisfaction from the monotony of a top 4 finish, lily-livered football at the business end, further every year from the big prizes, staleness around the ground, worsening quality of football and footballer, you understand why I'd take a fresh angle. Even a relegation scrap is something! There's a lack of identity and the fans are disaffected. The move to the Emirates has produced fcuk all memories in the 10 years they've been there.

That's fine if you accept it.

But do you and the rest of the Gunners fans really wish to see your limited success swapped for the more entertaining but ultimately much more disappointing roller coaster enjoyed by the spuds and Liverpool?

Is it much more disappointing though, both Liverpool and Spurs have had serious title challenges recently. Especially when u see that Leicester win the league last season it's hard to dispute that a little thinking outside the box from the powers that be at arsenal or by the management could have resulted in a title rather than being happy with the same old same old.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 29, 2016, 10:58:01 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 29, 2016, 10:01:10 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 29, 2016, 09:23:31 PM
You have to be a supporter to understand. Arsenal exist to make money for its owners, who do not demand trophies or that money be ploughed into the squad to freshen it up. Arsene is a sure thing every year to qualify for the CL and that's enough for the board. Arsenal are a business first and foremost with an excellent manager at keeping the figures in the black whilst qualifying the club for the biggest cash cow competition out there every year.

It's been said before on here to be careful what you wish for. But when there's zero satisfaction from the monotony of a top 4 finish, lily-livered football at the business end, further every year from the big prizes, staleness around the ground, worsening quality of football and footballer, you understand why I'd take a fresh angle. Even a relegation scrap is something! There's a lack of identity and the fans are disaffected. The move to the Emirates has produced fcuk all memories in the 10 years they've been there.

That's fine if you accept it.

But do you and the rest of the Gunners fans really wish to see your limited success swapped for the more entertaining but ultimately much more disappointing roller coaster enjoyed by the spuds and Liverpool?

I honestly do. It would be different if finishing top 4 meant something in terms of investment in quality but it actually appears to be the opposite. Good players leave. I think that finishing outside the top 4 should actually spark a different approach, for the better.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on August 30, 2016, 10:40:21 AM
Quote from: Boycey on August 29, 2016, 10:30:29 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 29, 2016, 10:01:10 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 29, 2016, 09:23:31 PM
You have to be a supporter to understand. Arsenal exist to make money for its owners, who do not demand trophies or that money be ploughed into the squad to freshen it up. Arsene is a sure thing every year to qualify for the CL and that's enough for the board. Arsenal are a business first and foremost with an excellent manager at keeping the figures in the black whilst qualifying the club for the biggest cash cow competition out there every year.

It's been said before on here to be careful what you wish for. But when there's zero satisfaction from the monotony of a top 4 finish, lily-livered football at the business end, further every year from the big prizes, staleness around the ground, worsening quality of football and footballer, you understand why I'd take a fresh angle. Even a relegation scrap is something! There's a lack of identity and the fans are disaffected. The move to the Emirates has produced fcuk all memories in the 10 years they've been there.

That's fine if you accept it.

But do you and the rest of the Gunners fans really wish to see your limited success swapped for the more entertaining but ultimately much more disappointing roller coaster enjoyed by the spuds and Liverpool?

Is it much more disappointing though, both Liverpool and Spurs have had serious title challenges recently. Especially when u see that Leicester win the league last season it's hard to dispute that a little thinking outside the box from the powers that be at arsenal or by the management could have resulted in a title rather than being happy with the same old same old.

Arsenal had a serious title challenge last season?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: StGallsGAA on August 30, 2016, 04:14:13 PM
Shocker!! Arsenal actually buy players valued at more than £9.99!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37223120
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 30, 2016, 04:16:00 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 30, 2016, 10:40:21 AM
Quote from: Boycey on August 29, 2016, 10:30:29 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 29, 2016, 10:01:10 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 29, 2016, 09:23:31 PM
You have to be a supporter to understand. Arsenal exist to make money for its owners, who do not demand trophies or that money be ploughed into the squad to freshen it up. Arsene is a sure thing every year to qualify for the CL and that's enough for the board. Arsenal are a business first and foremost with an excellent manager at keeping the figures in the black whilst qualifying the club for the biggest cash cow competition out there every year.

It's been said before on here to be careful what you wish for. But when there's zero satisfaction from the monotony of a top 4 finish, lily-livered football at the business end, further every year from the big prizes, staleness around the ground, worsening quality of football and footballer, you understand why I'd take a fresh angle. Even a relegation scrap is something! There's a lack of identity and the fans are disaffected. The move to the Emirates has produced fcuk all memories in the 10 years they've been there.

That's fine if you accept it.

But do you and the rest of the Gunners fans really wish to see your limited success swapped for the more entertaining but ultimately much more disappointing roller coaster enjoyed by the spuds and Liverpool?

Is it much more disappointing though, both Liverpool and Spurs have had serious title challenges recently. Especially when u see that Leicester win the league last season it's hard to dispute that a little thinking outside the box from the powers that be at arsenal or by the management could have resulted in a title rather than being happy with the same old same old.

Arsenal had a serious title challenge last season?

Arsenal weren't seriously in title race last year. Nearly were after beating Leicester but then subsequent results meant otherwise.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Maroon Manc on August 31, 2016, 01:24:17 PM
I'm not convinced Wenger has bought wisely, with the amount he's spent Arsenal should be going very close on winning the title. Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 31, 2016, 01:25:39 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 31, 2016, 01:24:17 PM
I'm not convinced Wenger has bought wisely, with the amount he's spent Arsenal should be going very close on winning the title. Only time will tell.

And Mourinho has? Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: TabClear on August 31, 2016, 01:35:23 PM
Can't believe Wilshire being allowed to leave on loan.  When fit I reckon he is one of the best in the league. I'd take him to Anfield in a heartbeat.

Can he play left back? ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on August 31, 2016, 01:37:42 PM
Quote from: TabClear on August 31, 2016, 01:35:23 PM
Can't believe Wilshire being allowed to leave on loan.  When fit I reckon he is one of the best in the league. I'd take him to Anfield in a heartbeat.

Can he play left back? ?

No way. I wouldn't want him around the place. We have enough injury issues.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: TabClear on August 31, 2016, 01:43:10 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2016, 01:37:42 PM
Quote from: TabClear on August 31, 2016, 01:35:23 PM
Can't believe Wilshire being allowed to leave on loan.  When fit I reckon he is one of the best in the league. I'd take him to Anfield in a heartbeat.

Can he play left back? ?

No way. I wouldn't want him around the place. We have enough injury issues.

FFS AZ. Can you not see him feeding  sturridge and Ings. .......
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 31, 2016, 01:49:22 PM
Quote from: TabClear on August 31, 2016, 01:43:10 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2016, 01:37:42 PM
Quote from: TabClear on August 31, 2016, 01:35:23 PM
Can't believe Wilshire being allowed to leave on loan.  When fit I reckon he is one of the best in the league. I'd take him to Anfield in a heartbeat.

Can he play left back? ?

No way. I wouldn't want him around the place. We have enough injury issues.

FFS AZ. Can you not see him feeding  sturridge and Ings. .......

Aye haribo in the treatment room
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Maroon Manc on August 31, 2016, 05:25:25 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on August 31, 2016, 01:25:39 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 31, 2016, 01:24:17 PM
I'm not convinced Wenger has bought wisely, with the amount he's spent Arsenal should be going very close on winning the title. Only time will tell.

And Mourinho has? Only time will tell.

We bought players who were the Bundesliga, Serie A & Ligue 1 players of the year from last season.

Wengers 2 recent signings may well turn out to be great signings but I'll need a lot of convincing that they are his priority signings when he's left it until the final few days of the transfer window.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Gaffer on September 01, 2016, 04:49:33 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on August 31, 2016, 01:49:22 PM
Quote from: TabClear on August 31, 2016, 01:43:10 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2016, 01:37:42 PM
Quote from: TabClear on August 31, 2016, 01:35:23 PM
Can't believe Wilshire being allowed to leave on loan.  When fit I reckon he is one of the best in the league. I'd take him to Anfield in a heartbeat.

Can he play left back? ?

No way. I wouldn't want him around the place. We have enough injury issues.

FFS AZ. Can you not see him feeding  sturridge and Ings. .......

Aye haribo in the treatment room

And Embassy Regal !
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 01, 2016, 10:35:47 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 31, 2016, 05:25:25 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on August 31, 2016, 01:25:39 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 31, 2016, 01:24:17 PM
I'm not convinced Wenger has bought wisely, with the amount he's spent Arsenal should be going very close on winning the title. Only time will tell.

And Mourinho has? Only time will tell.

We bought players who were the Bundesliga, Serie A & Ligue 1 players of the year from last season.

Wengers 2 recent signings may well turn out to be great signings but I'll need a lot of convincing that they are his priority signings when he's left it until the final few days of the transfer window.

Jesus wept sir.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 01, 2016, 12:19:20 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 31, 2016, 05:25:25 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on August 31, 2016, 01:25:39 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 31, 2016, 01:24:17 PM
I'm not convinced Wenger has bought wisely, with the amount he's spent Arsenal should be going very close on winning the title. Only time will tell.

And Mourinho has? Only time will tell.

We bought players who were the Bundesliga, Serie A & Ligue 1 players of the year from last season.

Wengers 2 recent signings may well turn out to be great signings but I'll need a lot of convincing that they are his priority signings when he's left it until the final few days of the transfer window.

I'd say Mustafi was. Wenger likes to leave it late to pay the least amount possible. Valencia had to see for financial fair play and Wenger played poker. He also identified Xhaka and Holding early. Vardy was number one choice but couldn't be guaranteed games down middle so ended up buying option C. People used to complain when he had no plan B or C yransfer wise so maybe lessons have being learned.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Maroon Manc on September 01, 2016, 12:52:02 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 01, 2016, 12:19:20 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 31, 2016, 05:25:25 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on August 31, 2016, 01:25:39 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 31, 2016, 01:24:17 PM
I'm not convinced Wenger has bought wisely, with the amount he's spent Arsenal should be going very close on winning the title. Only time will tell.

And Mourinho has? Only time will tell.

We bought players who were the Bundesliga, Serie A & Ligue 1 players of the year from last season.

Wengers 2 recent signings may well turn out to be great signings but I'll need a lot of convincing that they are his priority signings when he's left it until the final few days of the transfer window.

I'd say Mustafi was. Wenger likes to leave it late to pay the least amount possible. Valencia had to see for financial fair play and Wenger played poker. He also identified Xhaka and Holding early. Vardy was number one choice but couldn't be guaranteed games down middle so ended up buying option C. People used to complain when he had no plan B or C yransfer wise so maybe lessons have being learned.

We'll agree to differ on Mustafi, think Arsenal have ended up paying at what his clause was at and bringing in players this late on is not ideal especially considering that Arsenal are 5 points behind United, City & Chelsea already.  Given the squad you've got, the money Wenger has spent and that the 3 other main contenders for the league have new managers Arsenal should really be strong challengers for the league. Thats a very good Arsenal first 11 if they can get everyone fit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 10, 2016, 05:07:56 PM
Dodgy enough penalty there for the Arse.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Windmill abu on September 13, 2016, 09:55:30 PM
How many times have Arsenal dominated a match without killing it off, only to concede a late equalizer. It makes a change to be the other team.

A good result against PSG which will probably mean qualification for the last 16.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 13, 2016, 10:21:23 PM
Good result. Lucky as fook. Mickey out. Sorry, mixed up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on September 13, 2016, 10:25:37 PM
Got that result in spite of manager. Imagine if had someone who picked best playera in correct positions.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 13, 2016, 10:51:24 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 13, 2016, 10:21:23 PM
Good result. Lucky as fook. Mickey out. Sorry, mixed up.
Can be thankful Cavani had one of those very wasteful nights in front of goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 22, 2016, 10:17:09 AM
20 years.....still remember Paddy's first game...this is a good read.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/21/arsene-wenger-20-years-arsenal-incredible-journey (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/21/arsene-wenger-20-years-arsenal-incredible-journey)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on September 24, 2016, 11:40:14 PM
I stopped watching the game after the first half, it couldn't be repeated or bettered, once in a blue moon would or could  Ozil score that goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on September 25, 2016, 12:12:31 AM
He scored almost exactly the same goal recently
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: heganboy on October 02, 2016, 06:22:04 PM
Nice handball for the win
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 02, 2016, 11:32:15 PM
Yea. won. Nice.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 02, 2016, 11:38:30 PM
Love it. Quadruple definitely still on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on October 03, 2016, 07:10:25 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 02, 2016, 11:38:30 PM
Love it. Quadruple definitely still on.

Bypass?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 04, 2016, 12:44:38 PM
Kinnegad?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: PW Nally on October 04, 2016, 12:51:38 PM
Harry's?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 04, 2016, 06:09:05 PM
Pointz
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2016, 12:58:32 AM
Points
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 30, 2016, 01:03:40 AM
Not much activity here for a team rattling along.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2016, 01:11:00 AM
Been here. Bought the Tshirt.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2016, 06:43:34 AM
We'll see how November goes first.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 30, 2016, 10:20:39 AM
Spurs and United games will tell a lot. Squad is very good though. Giroud great plan B. Gibbs close to ousting Nacho. Elneny very classy passer. Ramsey back of bench an assist.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on November 01, 2016, 11:36:44 PM
Its the consistency that gets you.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2016, 11:41:35 PM
What a hoal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on November 01, 2016, 11:51:29 PM
It could might should will be Arsenal's big season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 02, 2016, 12:49:33 AM
The Bulgarian champions.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on November 02, 2016, 12:59:03 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 25, 2016, 12:12:31 AM
He scored almost exactly the same goal recently
Exactly which goal was that?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on November 02, 2016, 11:17:10 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwNwlO7WIAAfbER.jpg:large)

Arsene was doing some sort of rap halfway through Ozil's winner.

He said afterwards that the thought Oil should have shot earlier, but then admitted he was wrong about that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 02, 2016, 11:54:13 AM
Spurs on Sunday. Harry Kane to return. The Spuds unbeaten in the league. Big stakes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on November 02, 2016, 02:22:12 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 02, 2016, 12:59:03 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 25, 2016, 12:12:31 AM
He scored almost exactly the same goal recently
Exactly which goal was that?
Any info on the question or was it just another random discharge of nonsense?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2016, 10:35:18 PM
Is Giroud becoming Arsenal's Solskjaer? I can't see him displacing the starting eleven but a real threat off the bench.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on November 19, 2016, 02:06:36 PM
77 min gone and not 1 shot in the second half from Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: galwayman on November 19, 2016, 02:07:48 PM
Totally outplayed in the second half
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: tyroneman on November 19, 2016, 02:09:19 PM
And only now in te closing minutes does Wenger bring on thier big money summer signing. 2 x DM playing most of the match. Bottle job once again.

Not 1 shot in target all match. Sure Wenger will prob get a contract extension to reward him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: muppet on November 19, 2016, 03:07:50 PM
(http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.2875075.1479566953!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 19, 2016, 10:21:32 PM
Same old shit. Never changes. When it really matters, Ozil, Sanchez, Walcott go missing. That's why they're at Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on November 19, 2016, 10:41:26 PM
Wenger's use of subs is a sackable offence. Never makes one before 60th minute. Today 76th minute when clearly system not working. And shoehorning Ramsey into team no matter what. He's not a left winger.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Main Street on November 19, 2016, 11:09:23 PM
Good result for Arsenal, that was a brilliant traditional style equaliser, Arsenal have kept a slither  of contact with their roots.
Not much malice evident in that encounter, only a chubby looking Rooney getting a tad over excited and even that incivility seemed out of place.
I miss the outrageous dives, the regular  outbreaks of 'handbags', the abuse, the managers on the edge of killing each other, the ref being swarmed and collared every 5 minutes and Giroud (as party pooper)  winding up the Mancs with an appropriate  french gesture.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: StGallsGAA on November 19, 2016, 11:53:10 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 19, 2016, 11:09:23 PM
Good result for Arsenal, that was a brilliant traditional style equaliser, Arsenal have kept a slither  of contact with their roots.
Not much malice evident in that encounter, only a chubby looking Rooney getting a tad over excited and even that incivility seemed out of place.
I miss the outrageous dives, the regular  outbreaks of 'handbags', the abuse, the managers on the edge of killing each other, the ref being swarmed and collared every 5 minutes and Giroud (as party pooper)  winding up the Mancs with an appropriate  french gesture.

Presumably like Donkey you've been on the sauce??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on November 20, 2016, 10:04:28 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 19, 2016, 10:41:26 PM
Wenger's use of subs is a sackable offence. Never makes one before 60th minute. Today 76th minute when clearly system not working. And shoehorning Ramsey into team no matter what. He's not a left winger.

Never makes a sub before 70th min. It's based on player bonuses. Ramsey should be sold. Pathetic!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 20, 2016, 12:31:09 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 20, 2016, 10:04:28 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 19, 2016, 10:41:26 PM
Wenger's use of subs is a sackable offence. Never makes one before 60th minute. Today 76th minute when clearly system not working. And shoehorning Ramsey into team no matter what. He's not a left winger.

Never makes a sub before 70th min. It's based on player bonuses. Ramsey should be sold. Pathetic!

The result didn't marry the performance but an away point at OT is not same old Arsenal. It was an Interlull and then away with an 12 30pm ko, can never understand why these things aren't reasoned into performance.

Yes they were shit but credit to that has to go to Man U as well.

'You're not special you're a c**t.'
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on November 23, 2016, 10:23:58 PM
Another fruitless night. Creating chances a real problem at the minute. A dive and an og today. An og v Spurs and a late header from a rare chance v Utd.

People keep looking to Cazorla as the reason (his absence) but that's the easy option.

Very stale. Very November.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: screenexile on November 23, 2016, 11:59:05 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 23, 2016, 10:23:58 PM
Another fruitless night. Creating chances a real problem at the minute. A dive and an og today. An og v Spurs and a late header from a rare chance v Utd.

People keep looking to Cazorla as the reason (his absence) but that's the easy option.

Very stale. Very November.

That was a horrendous dive I hope he gets nailed for it!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: ONeill on December 07, 2016, 10:30:44 PM
Ticking along but we've been here before over 10 years running consecutively.

Nothing is shouting out at me that this side is different, despite being unbeaten in meaningful competition since August.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 08, 2016, 05:42:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 07, 2016, 10:30:44 PM
Ticking along but we've been here before over 10 years running consecutively.

Nothing is shouting out at me that this side is different, despite being unbeaten in meaningful competition since August.

The only difference is the squad depth looks better. Need to keep Sanchez and Ozil fit. Also need to come up with a pairing that works instead of Carzola.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 13, 2016, 09:34:04 AM
Déjà vu
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on December 13, 2016, 01:25:17 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 13, 2016, 09:34:04 AM
Déjà vu

He another French U16 hopeful?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Main Street on December 13, 2016, 07:14:06 PM
Football fans and their fatalism, victim-hood.  What's different with some Arsenal appreciators  is wallowing in fatalism even when the team are winning all round them.
You'd almost have the mistaken impression that Arsenal fc  was not more than a club and had such a narrow identity in society that began and ended with winning trophies.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on December 13, 2016, 07:18:24 PM
If you keep knocking on the door you have to get through some time. Then I think of Mayo and know I'm being daft. The one time Arsenal bother their hole to top the group. And if they came second they'd have got Real Madrid..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on December 13, 2016, 07:50:25 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 13, 2016, 07:18:24 PM
If you keep knocking on the door you have to get through some time. Then I think of Mayo and know I'm being daft. The one time Arsenal bother their hole to top the group. And if they came second they'd have got Real Madrid..

No they wouldn't  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on December 13, 2016, 09:44:28 PM
Ozil misses an easy chance to go 2-1 up then disappeared.  Not what you expect or need from a fella supposedly looking a big money contract.

It's fairly clear this fabled mental strength is an illusion.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on December 13, 2016, 11:00:40 PM
Yes, it's simple enough. If you get in their faces, there's a good chance Arsenal will fold. Fergie worked it out around 2005. Everton had that sort of approach today when they were 1-0 down. Fortunately, you only have a few teams capable of that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: galwayman on December 18, 2016, 05:31:06 PM
Backed City when Arsenal took the lead.
This team nowhere near title contenders.
Monreal is f*cking terrible.
Left back badly needed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on December 18, 2016, 05:33:27 PM
Just f**k off, Arsenal >:(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on December 18, 2016, 05:38:40 PM
That famed mental strength again. The big players nowhere to be seen after city scored.

Would be surprised if Sanchez stayed at any price.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on December 18, 2016, 05:42:25 PM
He's been infuriating this game. 5-6 times he's had runners coming off the shoulder and he's held onto it and killed some half chances. They look scared, and lethargic.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on December 18, 2016, 05:48:05 PM
Xhaka looks anything but a 35mill player.

IMHO The best thing for Arsenal would be to finish 5th and finally have an excuse to ditch Wenger. He's not progressed the team this past decade in terms of genuinely challenging for the league, let alone the CL and the stadium excuse cuts no ice now.

Seems to be the same old sh!t excuses wheeled out every year too.

Good players seem to soon realise they are going nowhere so they leave and win meaningful trophies elsewhere while players like Walcott hang around and continue to pick up the easy pay check year in year out.

9 points behind Chelsea, league over for Arsenal in December
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on December 18, 2016, 08:26:07 PM
He brought on Elneny instead of Perez when losing. The man in a dinosaur.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on December 18, 2016, 08:27:20 PM
https://youtu.be/JHNBttv0ceA

This guys clearly not best pleased..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on December 18, 2016, 08:36:28 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 18, 2016, 08:26:07 PM
He brought on Elneny instead of Perez when losing. The man in a dinosaur.

Indeed, the 'not quite a striker', who had 1 relatively productive season for scoring goals, that he paid 17mill or so for in the last minute shopping mall.

Another player Arsenal didn't need.
Another player Arsenal don't use.
Another piece of transfer genius.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on December 18, 2016, 08:43:04 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on December 18, 2016, 08:36:28 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 18, 2016, 08:26:07 PM
He brought on Elneny instead of Perez when losing. The man in a dinosaur.

Indeed, the 'not quite a striker' he paid 17mill or so for in at the last minute shopping mall. Another piece of transfer genius.

He scored a hatrick couple games ago and still doesn't get on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 18, 2016, 11:34:52 PM
And repeat. Be careful what you wish for they say well I say nobody can enjoy watching the same show year after year. We all know the ending...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 18, 2016, 11:43:31 PM
Time for the arrogant AW to go. The cushy shit show that is Arsenal FC are a joke!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: trileacman on December 19, 2016, 12:24:18 AM
Dont fool yourself into thinking that you'll be any more successful under a new regime. More likely than not you'll still be shite. Liverpool have went from defensive shite to pure shite to inconsistent shite to attacking shite.

The change will be nice for you though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on December 19, 2016, 11:25:14 AM
Worse than Mayo
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 19, 2016, 02:09:41 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 19, 2016, 11:25:14 AM
Worse than Mayo

Na more Galway - pretty good around the turn of the millennium and pretty shit since.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: gawa316 on December 19, 2016, 07:53:33 PM
Who's the alternative?

Simone? Not sure he would leave Atletico
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on December 19, 2016, 09:14:22 PM
Only speaking for myself but a lot of people don't understand what it's like being an Arsenal supporter when they say 'be careful what you wish for'.

Anything is better. The numbing monotony of the last 12 years is soul destroying. It's Groundhog. The lily-livered, pathetic and predictable capitulation every year around the same time, give or take a month, just tears the arse out of every season. You know it's coming, the players know it's coming and surely Arsene does too.

I honestly would take a mid table scrap for a bit of excitement, with average players bursting a gut to win a ball. Don't care who the manager is.

I'd had enough of Theo and Oxlade and their ilk. If that bollocks Walcott goes on again about how the team got together to tell some home truths to each other I'll start following spurs. 

The saddest thing is Arsene is the greatest manager in the club's history. But there is zero reward for finishing in the top 4 under him any more. The best players want to leave. The rest are pretenders.  In fact, they're further from the side of 98-04 with every passing year. The football used to be the saving grace but even now that's dodgy. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: trileacman on December 19, 2016, 09:32:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 19, 2016, 09:14:22 PM
Only speaking for myself but a lot of people don't understand what it's like being an Arsenal supporter when they say 'be careful what you wish for'.

Anything is better. The numbing monotony of the last 12 years is soul destroying. It's Groundhog. The lily-livered, pathetic and predictable capitulation every year around the same time, give or take a month, just tears the arse out of every season. You know it's coming, the players know it's coming and surely Arsene does too.

I honestly would take a mid table scrap for a bit of excitement, with average players bursting a gut to win a ball. Don't care who the manager is.

I'd had enough of Theo and Oxlade and their ilk. If that bollocks Walcott goes on again about how the team got together to tell some home truths to each other I'll start following spurs. 

The saddest thing is Arsene is the greatest manager in the club's history. But there is zero reward for finishing in the top 4 under him any more. The best players want to leave. The rest are pretenders.  In fact, they're further from the side of 98-04 with every passing year. The football used to be the saving grave but even now that's dodgy. 

As long as your prepared for that it's okay. I just have to laugh at the attitude that says a change of manager would make arsenal title winners
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on December 20, 2016, 08:15:34 AM
Change of manager worked for Chelsea. For every Moyes there's a Conte.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on January 03, 2017, 08:47:10 PM
Peak Arsenal tonight

Wenger shelled out over £50mill for Perez and Xhaka.....one can barely get a game, the other looks dreadful half the time and anonymous the rest. ....

Wonder does he regret letting Wishire out on loan yet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 03, 2017, 09:02:54 PM
Arsenal a bit of a shambles tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on January 03, 2017, 09:04:41 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 03, 2017, 09:02:54 PM
Arsenal a bit of a shambles tonight.

Arsenal a total f**king disgrace tonight. No heart, no passion, nothing
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: T Fearon on January 03, 2017, 09:07:40 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: michaelg on January 03, 2017, 09:23:07 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on January 03, 2017, 09:07:40 PM
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Said the man from County Armagh.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 03, 2017, 09:23:23 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on January 03, 2017, 09:04:41 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 03, 2017, 09:02:54 PM
Arsenal a bit of a shambles tonight.

Arsenal a total f**king disgrace tonight. No heart, no passion, nothing
Out of nothing arsenal are back in the game. Football is a funny old game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on January 03, 2017, 09:37:28 PM
Giroud gets the equaliser
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on January 03, 2017, 09:42:11 PM
Nothing should gloss over the fact that Arsenal didn't have the character or mental strength to take care of business in the first place against another average team, rather than go 3-0 down before they decided to play any ball.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 03, 2017, 09:43:12 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on January 03, 2017, 09:07:40 PM
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lol
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ballinaman on January 03, 2017, 09:44:17 PM
Giroud acting the bollox celebrating instead of going for the ball and quick restart.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on January 03, 2017, 09:45:25 PM
Just a little thing but Giroud should get a kick in the bollix for poncing around celebrating an equaliser with 5 mins left to play..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on January 03, 2017, 09:46:05 PM
Ha beaten to it..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on January 03, 2017, 09:46:16 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 03, 2017, 09:44:17 PM
Giroud acting the bollox celebrating instead of going for the ball and quick restart.  ;D

Absolutely. Wouldn't put it past them to be doing selfies in the dressing room to 'celebrate' a 3-3 against 10men
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 03, 2017, 09:53:00 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on January 03, 2017, 09:44:17 PM
Giroud acting the bollox celebrating instead of going for the ball and quick restart.  ;D

Chamberlain did that
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: The Stallion on January 03, 2017, 10:01:19 PM
I don't think celebrating a goal in those circumstances is unreasonable. Personally I'd be giving it the full triple somersault with pike after scoring a consolation goal in a 9-1 drubbing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: StGallsGAA on January 03, 2017, 10:09:28 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 03, 2017, 09:45:25 PM
Just a little thing but Giroud should get a kick in the bollix for poncing around celebrating an equaliser with 5 mins left to play..

When you don't know how to win something big you celebrate the  small stuff as if it's something big....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on January 03, 2017, 11:51:31 PM
Papers over the cracks. To be fair to Wenger, he's brilliant at that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Bord na Mona man on January 04, 2017, 10:08:30 AM
Just when you think Wenger is on the brink, his team do this!
;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on January 05, 2017, 07:32:39 AM
Tottenham saved Arsenal's record
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on January 07, 2017, 05:59:17 PM
Arsenal displaying plenty of their famed 'character' and mental strength again tonight.

Could Wenger have lost the dressing room as they look clueless?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: The Stallion on January 07, 2017, 07:02:54 PM
Getting beat would be the best possible result for Arsenal. The FA Cup is a complete irrelevance. They'd be better off concentrating on Europe and the League.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on January 07, 2017, 07:19:54 PM
Quote from: The Stallion on January 07, 2017, 07:02:54 PM
Getting beat would be the best possible result for Arsenal. The FA Cup is a complete irrelevance. They'd be better off concentrating on Europe and the League.

Not even if they could pick their own fixtures, times and locations to give them maximum rest and recuperation will Arsenal win the CL under Wenger.

Giroud papers over this weeks cracks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on January 07, 2017, 08:02:49 PM
Wenger has never really been Arsenal's problem. It's a pity he's the lazyman's way of criticising Arsenal. Keeping Sanchez and Ozil is much more important to Arsenal right now than winning the title, CL or buying a striker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on January 07, 2017, 08:40:15 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 07, 2017, 08:02:49 PM
Wenger has never really been Arsenal's problem. It's a pity he's the lazyman's way of criticising Arsenal. Keeping Sanchez and Ozil is much more important to Arsenal right now than winning the title, CL or buying a striker.

Wenger decides who, when and if Arsenal buy players, when to let them go, when to give them second, third, fourth and fifth chances. He coaches them each week, decides on a style of play and tactics for each match, is supposed to motivate them and is, crucially, responsible for in game tactical adjustments and substitutions.

He has been regularly out-thought for years by the top 4 teams in any given season and has reached 1 CL final out of 20 attempts. No other manager of a team Arsenals size and (alleged) ambition would go 5 years with no league/CL never mind over a decade without being sacked

Keeping Ozil (maybe) and Sanchez (highly unlikely) will mean nothing if he continues to surround them with mediocrity like Ramsey, Ox, Iwobi, Giroud, Elneny, Gabriel, Coquelin, Walcott etc etc

On the evidence so far Xhaka and Perez are not in the required class either, although a second season judgement would be fairer.

So I'm curious......how is Wenger not Arsenals main problem when he has almost total control of the footballing side of the club?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on January 07, 2017, 08:46:52 PM
Perez actually looks quality when gets a chance. Can't understand his treatment of Joel Campbell plus not having a recall option on Jack.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on January 07, 2017, 10:08:40 PM
Quality might be a strong word. He definitely has a brain, unlike the English contingent, which makes him stand out a bit. Somewhat like Podolski - smart but late in the career.

A plus I suppose is the return of Welbeck.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on January 14, 2017, 04:39:23 PM
Hard to tell what to make of Sanchez at the minute. Body language has been rotten for the last half dozen games. Even when we're winning and he's scored. Noticed there wasn't a rush of players to congratulate his goal today (fair enough it was #4), but his reaction to being subbed to make way for his team mate who needs game time when the game is already in the bag doesn't sit well. He could be starting to polarize the team.

Take the money and run?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tiempo on January 14, 2017, 07:53:47 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 14, 2017, 04:39:23 PM
Hard to tell what to make of Sanchez at the minute. Body language has been rotten for the last half dozen games. Even when we're winning and he's scored. Noticed there wasn't a rush of players to congratulate his goal today (fair enough it was #4), but his reaction to being subbed to make way for his team mate who needs game time when the game is already in the bag doesn't sit well. He could be starting to polarize the team.

Take the money and run?

Out
Wenger
Ozil
Sanchez

In
Simeone
Gotze
Griezmann
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on January 14, 2017, 10:23:26 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 14, 2017, 04:39:23 PM
Hard to tell what to make of Sanchez at the minute. Body language has been rotten for the last half dozen games. Even when we're winning and he's scored. Noticed there wasn't a rush of players to congratulate his goal today (fair enough it was #4), but his reaction to being subbed to make way for his team mate who needs game time when the game is already in the bag doesn't sit well. He could be starting to polarize the team.

Take the money and run?

Weird one that. I like players who hate being subbed. But a freezing day in Wales when 4-0 up? Really odd reaction I thought.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on January 14, 2017, 11:39:51 PM
He's been at it for a while now. Every stray pass, every time another player doesn't play him
The ball (even low probability balls) but finds another Arsenal
Player the hands and arms are waving around like a petulant child.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Main Street on January 18, 2017, 05:38:02 PM
Strange that it hasn't been mentioned here  but congratulation to Ozil who won the best German player of the year yet again, 5th time in 6 years. That's a truly remarkable achievement considering the competition.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on January 18, 2017, 06:00:58 PM
Ozil seems very keen on Wenger. Will probably want Wenger to commit to a new contract himself before making his call. Arsenal should just STFU and pay Sanchez and Ozil what they're worth.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Main Street on January 18, 2017, 10:39:29 PM
The financial worth of a player is a flexible concept these day and Arsenal hold steadfast to higher values :D
Arsenal use to be almost perennial crap achievers before Wenger came and raised the bar consistently to previously unknown dizzy heights.
I think Brady and Stapleton only have one FA cup medal to show for all their best years there before they both had to move on to bigger clubs. Brady's unworldly superb performance in the away leg of the European CWC sf v Juve 1980 was his ticket out of the bare Arsenal dungeons.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on January 19, 2017, 07:47:17 AM
Graham did deliver two leagues. One with one defeat all season. Also a European competition and a domestic cup double so there was success before Wenger. There was a period of average results before Graham all right.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 31, 2017, 08:05:52 PM
Sorry lads my fault I backed them tonight!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on January 31, 2017, 09:38:46 PM
Famed mental strength to the fore once again.

What does Wenger have to do to get the sack????
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on January 31, 2017, 10:10:00 PM
Ohhhhhhh the hills are alive with the sound of music
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on January 31, 2017, 10:17:21 PM
Eat sleep repeat
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 01, 2017, 12:04:39 PM
It must be February. Season over as usual see you all back in August.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: AZOffaly on February 01, 2017, 04:22:46 PM
Arsenal Fan TV is the best thing on the internet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on February 01, 2017, 08:50:07 PM
Just think where Arsenal might be if Wenger had bought the cheaper, premiership proven, supposedly scouted for years tackling machine Kante rather than 3rd most expensive central midfielder in the world Xhaka.

Who is now told not to tackle.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on February 01, 2017, 08:53:41 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 01, 2017, 04:22:46 PM
Arsenal Fan TV is the best thing on the internet.

It is mighty stuff  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: AZOffaly on February 01, 2017, 09:06:30 PM
That's right fam. That's right blood. Innit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 02, 2017, 11:07:52 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 01, 2017, 09:06:30 PM
That's right fam. That's right blood. Innit.

It's classic stuff alright. Some mad men on it - Claude is my favourite! Do Liverpool and United have anything similar?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: AZOffaly on February 02, 2017, 11:10:25 AM
I hope Liverpool don't anyway. It would be a study in mood swings and schizophrenia.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 02, 2017, 11:17:54 AM
Aye the scousers and mancs would provide serious entertainment. Geordies too!

Christ could you imagine they them in the GAA post games :D. A Derry GAA Fan TV would be unreal. Bit like Arsenal with our delusions of grandeur!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: laoislad on February 02, 2017, 11:19:07 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 02, 2017, 11:07:52 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 01, 2017, 09:06:30 PM
That's right fam. That's right blood. Innit.

It's classic stuff alright. Some mad men on it - Claude is my favourite! Do Liverpool and United have anything similar?
Was there not some lunatic United fan who kept getting interviewed the time David 'The Chosen One' Moyes was manager?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on February 03, 2017, 09:18:34 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/feb/02/arsenal-chelsea-watford-arsene-wenger-pressure
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on February 03, 2017, 09:57:34 AM
Quote from: laoislad on February 02, 2017, 11:19:07 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on February 02, 2017, 11:07:52 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 01, 2017, 09:06:30 PM
That's right fam. That's right blood. Innit.

It's classic stuff alright. Some mad men on it - Claude is my favourite! Do Liverpool and United have anything similar?
Was there not some lunatic United fan who kept getting interviewed the time David 'The Chosen One' Moyes was manager?

Andy Taite. The Arsenal fans are proper mental. Ty and Claude. Robbie the guy who runs it probably happier when Arsenal lose. More clicks, more money.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 03, 2017, 06:39:06 PM
Used to watch it but find it painful now. Yer man Claude isn't well and there were fears for his safety over the summer. And Ty ain't the full shilling.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 04, 2017, 12:24:09 PM
Up the Arse. Run at these hoors.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 04, 2017, 12:55:28 PM
Nice marking Theo.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 04, 2017, 01:25:35 PM
Arsenal playing with gay abandon. Theo runs to where the ball is. Sanchez doesn't trust anyone enough to pass to them. Gabriel can't believe he's playing at this level. Ozil has no one to assist. Oxlade and Iwobi passing it to each other for the craic. Some good players but no game plan atall really.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on February 04, 2017, 02:07:26 PM
Pure shite. Again. CBs being pulled out of position by the lack of tracking and cover from CM. Walcott once again a liability defensively and contributing nothing going forward.

Coquelin is never a top DM. Muscled out of it by Hazard, don't track back, offers nothing.

Wenger should have given Kante whatever he wanted on one of those numerous (Yeh right ) times he says he had a chance to sign him.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 04, 2017, 02:16:16 PM
Cech thought he was still playing for Chelsea there
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 04, 2017, 08:02:56 PM
Ideally, they'll announce he's gone at the end of the season. A few months of goodwill towards him, a rattle at Bayern and the FA Cup. With fans fighting in the stands over him again this year, it's time to stop the rot.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on February 04, 2017, 09:32:19 PM
Arsenal remind me of Meath when they were trying to dump Boylan
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2017, 11:55:10 PM
Big 2 weeks for Arsene. If it doesn't go well he's gone.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Main Street on February 11, 2017, 12:30:00 AM
With Chelsea already beaten in the league on head to head, a fa cup wide open for Arsenal and still stuff to play for elsewhere,  it's still Wenger's choice.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on February 11, 2017, 12:00:47 PM
Hopefully a run in Europe and the sabre rattlers will be disappointed yet again. Should be Wenger's choice entirely anyways.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on February 11, 2017, 01:23:41 PM
Thierry Henry on TV debating a handball goal :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on February 11, 2017, 05:32:54 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 11, 2017, 12:00:47 PM
Hopefully a run in Europe and the sabre rattlers will be disappointed yet again. Should be Wenger's choice entirely anyways.
.so when does he lose the right to choose his departure. ...after another decade of no league or CL success? Should the fans just put up with it?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Windmill abu on February 12, 2017, 12:27:42 AM
All of the Arsenal fans who are calling for Wenger to go, need to come up with a viable replacement. Both the Manchester clubs are now managed by "big name managers" and are unlikely to challenge for the premiership or any significant trophy this season.

Do the "Wenger Out" squad want someone with a proven track record to replace him with the hope of immediate success, or are they willing to give the next manager time to develop his own system?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on February 12, 2017, 01:30:55 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on February 12, 2017, 12:27:42 AM
All of the Arsenal fans who are calling for Wenger to go, need to come up with a viable replacement. Both the Manchester clubs are now managed by "big name managers" and are unlikely to challenge for the premiership or any significant trophy this season.

Do the "Wenger Out" squad want someone with a proven track record to replace him with the hope of immediate success, or are they willing to give the next manager time to develop his own system?

Allegri at Juventus.
Tuchel at Dortmund
Jardim at Monaco
Hassenhuttl at Red Bull Liepzig

There's 4.....out of them Allegri would be the number 1 candidate
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on February 12, 2017, 04:03:17 PM
Why Tuchel? Because they're fourth in league?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on February 14, 2017, 07:14:27 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 12, 2017, 04:03:17 PM
Why Tuchel? Because they're fourth in league?

Plays an exciting brand of football for a start, took Dortmund to 2nd last year (lets not forget Klopp only managed 6th and 5th in his first two seasons at Dortmund)

Yes of course he is a risk like any other change and Allegri would be my first choice, but he certainly fits the bill as 'viable'.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on February 14, 2017, 08:28:02 AM
Allegri my first choice too. It has to be this summer? Surely Wenger is done.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on February 15, 2017, 05:16:45 PM
If Rafa Benitez takes over Arsenal I'll be taking a sabbatical.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: laoislad on February 15, 2017, 05:22:20 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 15, 2017, 05:16:45 PM
If Rafa Benitez takes over Arsenal I'll be taking a sabbatical.
Is that the guy who has won the one trophy that Arsenal have never been able to win?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 15, 2017, 05:31:04 PM
Would take a 2-1 defeat.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: The Stallion on February 15, 2017, 05:31:55 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 15, 2017, 05:22:20 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 15, 2017, 05:16:45 PM
If Rafa Benitez takes over Arsenal I'll be taking a sabbatical.
Is that the guy who has won the one trophy that Arsenal have never been able to win?



If you don't know, you're probably best staying out of these threads until you're up to speed.

If you do know, there's no need to ask the question.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on February 15, 2017, 05:50:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 15, 2017, 05:31:04 PM
Would take a 2-1 defeat.

I know there's more chance of me winning the lotto - but wouldn't a 2003 Inter Milan type spanking that had you yelling at the TV be a great tonic?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 15, 2017, 07:03:00 PM
Wouldn't it just.

Bayern Munich XI: Neuer, Lahm, Hummels, Martínez, Alaba, Xabi Alonso, Vidal, Robben, Thiago, Costa, Lewandowski.

Arsenal XI: Ospina, Bellerin, Mustafi, Koscielny, Gibbs, Xhaka, Coquelin, Iwobi, Ozil, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Sanchez.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on February 15, 2017, 08:09:55 PM
Ozil looks like he needs a Prozac
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 15, 2017, 08:24:51 PM
Luck hanging outta Arsenal. So far.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on February 15, 2017, 08:38:10 PM
Yes and no. Arsenal goal was lucky - but they've fashioned a few chances and should have put a couple away. Not sure either was a penalty. Wish Xhaka had have buried that - he's another that could do with some positivity out of tonight's game. Ozil is completely out of it. Actively shying away from Arial challenges - not even making his presence felt.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 15, 2017, 08:43:59 PM
Ozil completely lost for a month now. Didn't he do the same last year?

Giroud and Theo to freshen her up if needed last 15.

Bellerin lucky?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on February 15, 2017, 08:46:32 PM
Luckier than Lewandowski for sure, but in an isolated incident it would be a harsh penalty call. Came right at him and his arm was by his side. He had no way to avoid it, but neither did RL for the Arsenal penalty.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: screenexile on February 15, 2017, 09:03:16 PM
Arsenal Fan TV will be some craic tonight  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on February 15, 2017, 09:06:56 PM
Blown Away.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 15, 2017, 09:11:32 PM
Groundfuckinhog has nothing on us.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: StGallsGAA on February 15, 2017, 09:19:23 PM
So you don't fancy their chances of turning it around at the Emirates then?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on February 15, 2017, 09:30:59 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on February 15, 2017, 05:50:35 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 15, 2017, 05:31:04 PM
Would take a 2-1 defeat.

I know there's more chance of me winning the lotto - but wouldn't a 2003 Inter Milan type spanking that had you yelling at the TV be a great tonic?

Toul ye.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on February 15, 2017, 09:33:20 PM
I hope Wenger resigns after game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 15, 2017, 09:38:42 PM
What's the point in fighting for top 4 again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on February 15, 2017, 09:41:17 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 15, 2017, 09:33:20 PM
I hope Wenger resigns after game.

Pitch was a bit cut up in places to be fair.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 15, 2017, 09:54:07 PM
First english team with 200 conceded goals in CL.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: SHEEDY on February 15, 2017, 10:01:15 PM
Away goal could be crucial.  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on February 15, 2017, 10:04:18 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 15, 2017, 09:38:42 PM
What's the point in fighting for top 4 again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_3LfGZpuCQ

Taunts from spuds people
Tony Fearon would be unbearable
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on February 15, 2017, 10:37:59 PM
When Arsenal do poorly it gives fuckwits like Piers Morgan the opportunity to spout on about football as if their opinion is relevant.. sadly my twitter will be full of people retweeting him 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on February 16, 2017, 02:40:44 AM
What's the story with Arsenal fans?  Last two FA cups; finished in 2nd last year; group stages in CL for the last 800 years or so.... and you need to sack the manager? 

Seriously wtf?   
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on February 16, 2017, 07:00:55 AM
According to various stat sources Bayern completed around 500 more passes than Arsenal.

But sure why not keep Wenger....it's his choice when he goes after all....he runs the club.

Joke.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on February 16, 2017, 08:03:34 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on February 16, 2017, 02:40:44 AM
What's the story with Arsenal fans?  Last two FA cups; finished in 2nd last year; group stages in CL for the last 800 years or so.... and you need to sack the manager? 

Seriously wtf?

It's the fact that it happens every single year. The collapse at the same time every year. The mentality is weak. He's created a team with no leaders. He thought Xhaka was a better signing than Kante. He spends the money like it's his own even though he takes 8 million a year in a wage. Top 4 is not a trophy. Accepting that wouldn't happen at any other big club. He's not held accountable for rubbish results because he controls the club from top to bottom. I hope we finish outside top 4 to remove any risk of him staying on. He was a great manager and I respect what he has achieved but he's soiling his reputation. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on February 16, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 16, 2017, 08:03:34 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on February 16, 2017, 02:40:44 AM
What's the story with Arsenal fans?  Last two FA cups; finished in 2nd last year; group stages in CL for the last 800 years or so.... and you need to sack the manager? 

Seriously wtf?

It's the fact that it happens every single year. The collapse at the same time every year. The mentality is weak. He's created a team with no leaders. He thought Xhaka was a better signing than Kante. He spends the money like it's his own even though he takes 8 million a year in a wage. Top 4 is not a trophy. Accepting that wouldn't happen at any other big club. He's not held accountable for rubbish results because he controls the club from top to bottom. I hope we finish outside top 4 to remove any risk of him staying on. He was a great manager and I respect what he has achieved but he's soiling his reputation.
Top 4 qualifies for the Champions League ritual humiliation process
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2017, 08:55:28 AM
Hope Arsenal bate those bastids Sutton.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2017, 09:48:16 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on February 16, 2017, 02:40:44 AM
What's the story with Arsenal fans?  Last two FA cups; finished in 2nd last year; group stages in CL for the last 800 years or so.... and you need to sack the manager? 

Seriously wtf?

Do you understand what we mean? People keep saying they'd give an arm for top 4 and the odd FA Cup but it's missing the point. That's all it is. It's so monotonous and boring now that I don't even care if I see games. I don't get nervous or angry really. It has turned us into mush. Nothing changes. Qualify for CL to get humiliated again. And again. And again. And again. Last year was the year but they couldn't even do that whilst all the top clubs were in turmoil. I can't even watch half the players now especially after scoring a goal, knowing they're going to crap themselves when the big games come. New manager. Don't care if Arsenal are 10th. Something different. Something exciting. Not another few years of knowing how the season will pan out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Denn Forever on February 16, 2017, 10:57:16 AM
Who'd want to be the next manager? 

I feel sorry for Sancez who I was surprised to hear wasn't the best paid on the team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: blewuporstuffed on February 16, 2017, 11:03:38 AM
I would say there is every chance Wenger, Sanchez and Ozil will all go in the summer
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on February 16, 2017, 12:18:09 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/feb/16/arsene-wenger-arsenal-munich-alexis-sanchez

Mesut Özil, who now has no goals and no assists in 11 last 16 knockout ties going back to 2011, played 90 minutes but barely registered as a sentient presence, completing 20 passes.
Arsenal spent £96m in the summer and £101m two years before. Their wage bill is a smidgen lower than Bayern's, their net value a touch behind, fifth in the world plays fourth in the world. And yet at times inside this wondrous illuminated giant doughnut of a stadium they looked like novices up against the all-galaxy champions, or at best an elite team that has simply sat for too long in the same place.
It is almost impossible at moments such as these to see how Wenger can take this team to a higher level, just as it is impossible to argue there is not another manager out there who could build more successfully on the stable foundations he will leave.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 16, 2017, 01:53:44 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 16, 2017, 10:57:16 AM
Who'd want to be the next manager? 

I feel sorry for Sancez who I was surprised to hear wasn't the best paid on the team.

Sanchez attitude last night was terrible. Waving his arms around and sulking like a child. The Arsenal defence folded like a pack of cards once Koscielny went off injured.

Arsenal only hanging on to fourth by their fingers nails, Liverpools poor January form and Manchester Uniteds draws is what has Arsenal in that league position. Europa league will suit Arsenals true level next season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Fuzzman on February 16, 2017, 02:27:00 PM
As an Everton fan, who were knocked out very early of both domestic cups it's interesting to see the mood of Arsenal fans. With Koeman coming in and buying a lot of new players and getting rid of a lot of the deadwood as well as the talk of a new stadium with our new owner, most Everton fans are optimistic that things are moving in the right direction. In 5-10 years time most Everton fans would be happy to be qualifying for the CL as it attracts better players but realistically it is very tough to win the premier league or champions league.

When I look at Arsenal and probably Liverpool they both seem to lack that defensive meanness that you need to win titles. You need a team mixed with a good defensive system and I think Kante has really added that to Chelsea this year and it's pretty obvious Arsenal don't have a player like that. Gana does this job well for Everton even though he's quite small. For me Arsenal tend to buy too many nice skillful footballers and not enough hard men.
Fans might want to see attractive entertaining football but if you look at most league winning teams they tend to be hard to score against first.

I'm surprised the Arsenal fans don't make more of a protest at their games to get him out but maybe that will happen now that the CL is more or less out of the equation.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 16, 2017, 02:54:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 16, 2017, 09:48:16 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on February 16, 2017, 02:40:44 AM
What's the story with Arsenal fans?  Last two FA cups; finished in 2nd last year; group stages in CL for the last 800 years or so.... and you need to sack the manager? 

Seriously wtf?

Do you understand what we mean? People keep saying they'd give an arm for top 4 and the odd FA Cup but it's missing the point. That's all it is. It's so monotonous and boring now that I don't even care if I see games. I don't get nervous or angry really. It has turned us into mush. Nothing changes. Qualify for CL to get humiliated again. And again. And again. And again. Last year was the year but they couldn't even do that whilst all the top clubs were in turmoil. I can't even watch half the players now especially after scoring a goal, knowing they're going to crap themselves when the big games come. New manager. Don't care if Arsenal are 10th. Something different. Something exciting. Not another few years of knowing how the season will pan out.

+1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: The Stallion on February 16, 2017, 03:22:11 PM
" For me Arsenal tend to buy too many nice skillful footballers and not enough hard men."

They bought Xhaka, who puts himself about with the best of them. Unfortunately he's shite at football and just fouls people. The problem is that Arsenal actually are pandering to this notion of being soft by buying physical players with no football in them like Xhaka, Gabriel etc.

If they bought more skilful players instead of just more physical players they'd be a lot better off.

Also, how Walcott continues to get a game is beyond me, he's rubbish.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: laoislad on February 16, 2017, 07:07:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on February 15, 2017, 09:03:16 PM
Arsenal Fan TV will be some craic tonight  ;D
https://youtu.be/NeM4c7lTeMY
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on February 16, 2017, 07:23:19 PM
Was gonna post that up earlier, some decent Arsenal fan should give that eejit a dig..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 16, 2017, 07:24:44 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 16, 2017, 07:07:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on February 15, 2017, 09:03:16 PM
Arsenal Fan TV will be some craic tonight  ;D
https://youtu.be/NeM4c7lTeMY
Needs subtitles that video, all I can make out is F this and F that and blood.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on February 16, 2017, 07:25:37 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 16, 2017, 07:24:44 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 16, 2017, 07:07:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on February 15, 2017, 09:03:16 PM
Arsenal Fan TV will be some craic tonight  ;D
https://youtu.be/NeM4c7lTeMY
Needs subtitles that video, all I can make out is F this and F that and blood.

Blud...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: J70 on February 16, 2017, 07:31:31 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 16, 2017, 07:07:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on February 15, 2017, 09:03:16 PM
Arsenal Fan TV will be some craic tonight  ;D
https://youtu.be/NeM4c7lTeMY

A couple of Bayern fans smirking in the background! ;D

Perhaps Arsenal need a change to move back up to the very top level, but the level of ingratitude towards Wenger and what he has built that club into is staggering!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on February 17, 2017, 12:04:34 AM
Ozil's agent claiming he feels like he's being made a scapegoat. Poor Mesut.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Aaron Boone on February 17, 2017, 07:02:50 AM
Quote from: J70 on February 16, 2017, 07:31:31 PM
Quote from: laoislad on February 16, 2017, 07:07:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on February 15, 2017, 09:03:16 PM
Arsenal Fan TV will be some craic tonight  ;D
https://youtu.be/NeM4c7lTeMY

A couple of Bayern fans smirking in the background! ;D

Perhaps Arsenal need a change to move back up to the very top level, but the level of ingratitude towards Wenger and what he has built that club into is staggering!
It's he great unknown getting rid of Wenger. Arsenal FanTV will appreciate him more if the club are struggling in 7th or 8th when he goes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2017, 09:56:41 AM
Wenger is just a class act. An would be on my list for any fictitious dinner party.

The point is that professional sport is entertainment, it has always been soap opera, the problem with Arsenal and Wenger is that we are watching the same soap opera for the last 6 years or more. Arsenal needs a reboot, yes the odds are that reboot will fail but Arsenal need something different. And the longer Wenger stays without success the more his reputation becomes tarnished. Wenger is very popular in the media now and even with rival fans, I preferred it when he wasn't and was know as Whinging Wenger and the blind professor and when the headlines were about Arsenal's disgraceful disciplinary record and not their pretty but ultimately sterile football. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on February 17, 2017, 10:00:04 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2017, 09:56:41 AM
Wenger is just a class act. An would be on my list for any fictitious dinner party.

The point is that professional sport is entertainment, it has always been soap opera, the problem with Arsenal and Wenger is that we are watching the same soap opera for the last 6 years or more. Arsenal needs a reboot, yes the odds are that reboot will fail but Arsenal need something different. And the longer Wenger stays without success the more his reputation becomes tarnished. Wenger is very popular in the media now and even with rival fans, I preferred it when he wasn't and was know as Whinging Wenger and the blind professor and when the headlines were about Arsenal's disgraceful disciplinary record and not their pretty but ultimately sterile football.

Wenger is Sean Boylan Mark 2 . Perhaps Hardy or the Juice could write an open letter to the Arsenal owner
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: AZOffaly on February 17, 2017, 10:17:47 AM
I'm curious about that statement Dinny, re entertainment. Is professional sports really entertainment, or is it a results based enterprise where fans are so emotionally invested in their team that they just want to see them win, and the players and management are rewarded based on success.

I know, as a Liverpool fan, that I love when Liverpool play open, attacking, fast football, but I hate it when they lose. So would I prefer 38 sterile 1-0 wins and a Premier League trophy, or would I prefer Brendan Rodgers 2013/2014 or Klopps Geggenpress, assuming it means a 2nd, 3rd or 4th place finish? I hate to say it, but the knots in my stomach when Liverpool are about to play are not caused by a desire to see them play with style. I want them to win. Winning with style is the perfect scenario.

I understand that for neutrals, professional sport is all about the entertainment value, but for the vested interests, I think sport, all sport at the top level really, is about winning or about seeing your team win.

The thing about Arsenal, for me as an outsider, is not that they are not entertaining, it's that they don't seem to have the intestinal fortitude to win as much as their talent should win. And that's really back to the nub of professional sport. As Al Davis said to the Raiders, Just Win Baby.

If Wenger was winning, there'd be none of this, but he's not, and the pattern of each year is so similar that it's obviously a systems failure.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: screenexile on February 17, 2017, 11:10:38 AM
It's of his own making. . . when he began in England he had strong characters and leaders in his team, lads who could lift the team when the chips were down like Campbell/Keown/Dickson/Viera/Petit/Bergkamp.

You need that in a successful team and since his success he has looked to bring in young lads he can mould rather than bring in one or two more experienced heads every couple of years who will add a bit of steel to the obvious flair the team has. I think around the time they had Van Persie and Fabregas in the team if they had signed an experience defensive midfielder and centre back they could have won a lot more!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Fuzzman on February 17, 2017, 11:16:40 AM
If you look at most of the more successful soccer teams in European football, a lot of them change their manager every 3 or 4 years. Juventus have won the Series A title the last 5 seasons and look odds on to win in this year and they've had 4 different managers since 2010 including Conte.
The two big Spanish clubs change their managers very regularly, even if they are winning trophies.
Chelsea and Man City have won titles in recent years and regularly change their manager.
Even the Germans are at it bringing in Dutch and Spanish managers over the last 5 years.

Many of us might think it's crazy but it seems to bring them success and I suppose Arsenal fans feel totally frustrated that they such a huge club who have improved off the pitch but are not really showing signs of improving on the pitch.
Other teams are spending crazy money every year bringing in and selling big players yet they are not.
It's like a few of those fans said that the board are happy with Arsenal being a successful business qualifying every year for the CL and winning the odd FA cup, bringing in decent money for their shareholders.

I would imagine most of the fans would love to see Wenger leave and take the risk of falling out of the top 4 than continue year after year stumbling at the same stages. Imagine how the Arsenal fans would feel if Utd win the League cup, FA cup and Europa cup this season.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2017, 12:59:44 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 17, 2017, 10:17:47 AM
I'm curious about that statement Dinny, re entertainment. Is professional sports really entertainment, or is it a results based enterprise where fans are so emotionally invested in their team that they just want to see them win, and the players and management are rewarded based on success.

Do you only watch Liverpool or would you sit down and watch two teams in which you have no emotional investment to be entertained?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: AZOffaly on February 17, 2017, 01:03:27 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2017, 12:59:44 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 17, 2017, 10:17:47 AM
I'm curious about that statement Dinny, re entertainment. Is professional sports really entertainment, or is it a results based enterprise where fans are so emotionally invested in their team that they just want to see them win, and the players and management are rewarded based on success.

Do you only watch Liverpool or would you sit down and watch two teams in which you have no emotional investment to be entertained?

Yeah, I get that. I referred to that later in my post. But you are an Arsenal fan, talking about the Arsenal manager, on the Arsenal thread, so I'm assuming you are referring to watching Arsenal as entertainment.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 17, 2017, 01:31:26 PM
I almost feel sorry for Wenger, its not his fault the Arsenal board haven't a clue about football matters but in fairness to them their more than happy with top 4 finishes every season although this could be the season when they finally wake up. Its 13 years since they won a title and that was probably the last time they were genuinely in a title race with a few weeks to go. What must frustrate Arsenal fans more than anything is his tactics, time and time again Arsenal get found out against the best teams and lost count of the amount of hidings they've had during that time. I don't think it matters what players he buys anymore, he's not been up to the job of challenging for top honours for well over a decade.

Arsenal are making some of same mistakes United made when Fergie left, looks like on paper he'll leave a good squad but the reality is that their short on really top players and their best player by a mile probably will leave this summer.

It could be a tough few years for Arsenal if they change their manager, he'll certainly have money to spend but as it stands their certainly not prepared to pay the wages required to entice the best players. They do have a huge wage bill but thats down to the size of their squad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: screenexile on February 17, 2017, 01:53:50 PM
It seems to have escaped Wenger's memory that British teams who have won the Champions League have done so largely by playing a compact counter attacking game. . . I've yet to remember a time Arsenal have done this in Europe home or away!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: The Stallion on February 17, 2017, 03:08:38 PM
They've done it on plenty of occasions.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: The Stallion on February 17, 2017, 03:13:59 PM
Some of which are mentioned below :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/11944977/Arsenal-have-a-new-blueprint-for-success-after-beating-Bayern-Munich.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2017, 03:44:31 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 17, 2017, 01:03:27 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 17, 2017, 12:59:44 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 17, 2017, 10:17:47 AM
I'm curious about that statement Dinny, re entertainment. Is professional sports really entertainment, or is it a results based enterprise where fans are so emotionally invested in their team that they just want to see them win, and the players and management are rewarded based on success.

Do you only watch Liverpool or would you sit down and watch two teams in which you have no emotional investment to be entertained?

Yeah, I get that. I referred to that later in my post. But you are an Arsenal fan, talking about the Arsenal manager, on the Arsenal thread, so I'm assuming you are referring to watching Arsenal as entertainment.

Sport is a bridge between reality and fantasy, for a fan there are no real life consequences to watching your team win or lose, life will carry on regardless. The same logic can be applied to the Cinema, Theater or Gaming. So I watch Arsenal for escapism and yes I want to be entertained. Are entertainment and emotional investment mutually exclusive I don't think so. When I was younger it was out-coming orientated so the entertainment was watching Arsenal win 1-0 and it was great, then Wenger came along and you could win with style and panache and it too was great. Then the stadium years, entertaining football, young players to get behind no trophies but a real vision. Now though that vision has been shattered, the football is not as good and there is no trophies to fall back on. The new process is basically repetitive and boring and just not entertaining.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2017, 03:46:31 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 17, 2017, 10:17:47 AM
I'm curious about that statement Dinny, re entertainment. Is professional sports really entertainment, or is it a results based enterprise where fans are so emotionally invested in their team that they just want to see them win, and the players and management are rewarded based on success.



In my exerpience, the older you get the more you appreciate the beauty of sport and want to be entertained - or see players giving everything to be the best they can.

As a teen or 20-something you didn't care as it was all fodder for banter with rivals.

If Arsenal were bursting a gut to finish in the top for, fighting like demons to overachieve then I'd probably take it. But 10 years of capitulations and lacklustre weeks in a row by players who can give a lot more to the cause is mindnumbing. Look back at Gallas sitting on the field after one such implosion...sorta started around then.

The players now aren't afraid of the manager or of losing their starting berth.

Wenger was the greatest thing to happen to Arsenal since Chapman. The stars and planets aligned that day in 96. France were on the cusp of becoming world powerhouses. He nabbed Vieira, Henry, Wiltord, Petit, Anelka Pires. He inherited a solid defence and made them better players all around. Great buys in Overmars, Lauren, Campbell, Toure, Lehmann, Edu, Ljungberg etc. He was the best out there alongside Fergie. Then something happened. He knew the great side was breaking up and had ready-made replacements in Van Persie, Fabgregas, Clichy, Sagna, Szczesney and to an extent Rosicky.

I don't know how much of the the problem was the stadium. Players started to leave at their peak to earn more elsewhere. Cole, Fabregas, Hleb, Clichy, Sagna....and he was replacing them with absolute tripe in Silvestre, Walcott, Jenkinson....good players seemed to go backwards - Szczesney, Adebayor, Eduardo, Toure, Eboue, Denilson (some injury, some maybe just didn't have it to progress).

But it can't just be down to money. The great team of the early 2000s weren't all blockbuster buys. He was famed for finding diamonds in the rough. It all stopped.

I remember the middlin days and don't have a sense of entitlement. But you have to be a fan to understand the soul-destroying nature of a repetitively disappointing season. Arsenal win more than most sides (I think they recently won 2 consecutive calendar years) but the winning isn't enjoyable any more. You know at the end of it you'll be pushed over by decent sides or when it comes to crunch moments in a season, year after year. The famed mentality is non-existent.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: AZOffaly on February 17, 2017, 03:49:29 PM
I'd say I'm as old/older than both of ye, and I can honestly say that when a neutral, I want to be entertained. When a vested interest, I just want to win. And as a fan of the various teams I support, my mood is absolutely affected by the results they get.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2017, 03:57:33 PM
It must be a personal thing then. I could say that 10 years ago with Tyrone, Arsenal and whoever else it affected me. Whether it was fatherhood, wising up or realising these fcukers are earning millions and don't really give a shit (not Tyrone I think), I'm only annoyed for about 5 minutes before re-focusing on more important things.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: AZOffaly on February 17, 2017, 04:02:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 17, 2017, 03:57:33 PM
It must be a personal thing then. I could say that 10 years ago with Tyrone, Arsenal and whoever else it affected me. Whether it was fatherhood, wising up or realising these fcukers are earning millions and don't really give a shit (not Tyrone I think), I'm only annoyed for about 5 minutes before re-focusing on more important things.

Yeah, I tell myself to cop on, and I'm grand, but either way, I'd prefer them to win 1-0 rather than play brilliant football and lose 4-3.

Winning 4-3 is ideal :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2017, 04:07:12 PM
And I'm contradicting myself by getting annoyed at the current state of affairs.

See. See what The Professor has done to us?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on February 17, 2017, 04:09:14 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 17, 2017, 04:02:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 17, 2017, 03:57:33 PM
It must be a personal thing then. I could say that 10 years ago with Tyrone, Arsenal and whoever else it affected me. Whether it was fatherhood, wising up or realising these fcukers are earning millions and don't really give a shit (not Tyrone I think), I'm only annoyed for about 5 minutes before re-focusing on more important things.

Yeah, I tell myself to cop on, and I'm grand, but either way, I'd prefer them to win 1-0 rather than play brilliant football and lose 4-3.

Winning 4-3 is ideal :)

I'm with you on winning being all that counts when the game is on but like ONeill I (nowadays) shrug off any defeat with ease and 5 minutes later its gone. I sometimes have a read on here and laugh at the annoyance some people carry around for days (weeks, months even for some people)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: The Stallion on February 17, 2017, 04:17:20 PM
Amazing how angry people get over what is after all only a game.

As a Liverpool supporter I'd take Arsenal's years of great football with no trophies to show for it over the 2005 Champions League and years of awful football under Rafa, Hodgson, Dalglish, Rodgers and Klopp any day.

Winning trophies is second to quality entertaining football for me. Both together is the ultimate goal of course.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: AZOffaly on February 17, 2017, 04:21:52 PM
Quote from: Boycey on February 17, 2017, 04:09:14 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on February 17, 2017, 04:02:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 17, 2017, 03:57:33 PM
It must be a personal thing then. I could say that 10 years ago with Tyrone, Arsenal and whoever else it affected me. Whether it was fatherhood, wising up or realising these fcukers are earning millions and don't really give a shit (not Tyrone I think), I'm only annoyed for about 5 minutes before re-focusing on more important things.

Yeah, I tell myself to cop on, and I'm grand, but either way, I'd prefer them to win 1-0 rather than play brilliant football and lose 4-3.

Winning 4-3 is ideal :)

I'm with you on winning being all that counts when the game is on but like ONeill I (nowadays) shrug off any defeat with ease and 5 minutes later its gone. I sometimes have a read on here and laugh at the annoyance some people carry around for days (weeks, months even for some people)

Don't get me wrong, I don't go around cursing at the wife and kids or anything, but I definitely am pissed off more than I should be about a team from a city that I visit once or twice a year :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: AZOffaly on February 17, 2017, 06:59:31 PM
Fair play to Gary Neville. God help me, I actually like him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmgVPi_YQ7E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmgVPi_YQ7E)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2017, 07:24:05 PM
He was humorous at times there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: J70 on February 17, 2017, 08:14:42 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 17, 2017, 03:57:33 PM
It must be a personal thing then. I could say that 10 years ago with Tyrone, Arsenal and whoever else it affected me. Whether it was fatherhood, wising up or realising these fcukers are earning millions and don't really give a shit (not Tyrone I think), I'm only annoyed for about 5 minutes before re-focusing on more important things.

Not just you. I'd imagine it happens to most.

I thoroughly enjoy when Liverpool play well and win, and I enjoy reading about it and watching the highlights of the games again while exercising and so on. I get frustrated as f**k watching them when they're shite, but the minute its over, I shrug it off. If Liverpool f**king up is the worst thing to happen to me that week, it'll have been a very good week. Basically, its a hobby to be either savoured or forgotten about, depending on how it goes. Its not real life.

I'd have a similar enough attitude to the Donegal county team as well, although there is obviously more of a personal connection when you come from and, in some cases, know the people involved (or at least their families).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 20, 2017, 07:57:14 PM
Plastic pitched bastids
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on February 20, 2017, 08:59:24 PM
Wouldn't mind seeing a Sutton goal here. They were 25-1 after all...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 20, 2017, 09:10:27 PM
Plenty of nice 1-2s but a dearth of technical skill you'd expect from Arsenal players.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 20, 2017, 09:42:27 PM
Was hoping he'd wash her down with a stout.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Minder on February 20, 2017, 09:58:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 20, 2017, 09:40:51 PM
The big lad munching the pie has the right idea.

"Banter" staged by the S*n
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 12:34:37 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 20, 2017, 09:58:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 20, 2017, 09:40:51 PM
The big lad munching the pie has the right idea.

"Banter" staged by the S*n

The Sun is pretty good for soccer coverage in fairness.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 21, 2017, 01:21:49 AM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 12:34:37 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 20, 2017, 09:58:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 20, 2017, 09:40:51 PM
The big lad munching the pie has the right idea.

"Banter" staged by the S*n

The Sun is pretty good for soccer coverage in fairness.
No soccer supporter should even read The Scum after their disgraceful coverage of Hillsborough 1989.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 21, 2017, 09:20:21 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 21, 2017, 01:21:49 AM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 12:34:37 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 20, 2017, 09:58:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 20, 2017, 09:40:51 PM
The big lad munching the pie has the right idea.

"Banter" staged by the S*n

The Sun is pretty good for soccer coverage in fairness.
No sane person should even read The Scum after their disgraceful coverage of Hillsborough 1989.
Fixed that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2017, 09:35:19 PM
Why did Alexis not start?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Gaffer on March 04, 2017, 09:37:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 04, 2017, 09:35:19 PM
Why did Alexis not start?

He has 5  goals to score agin Bayern
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on March 04, 2017, 09:40:02 PM
If things didn't go well Tuesday night the atmosphere could be spicy..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 05, 2017, 07:38:26 AM
Quote from: Boycey on March 04, 2017, 09:40:02 PM
If things didn't go well Tuesday night the atmosphere could be spicy..

Na it's a dead rubber game. Wenger needs to announce he is stepping down at the end of season, he deserves a long goodbye and a proper send off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: The Stallion on March 05, 2017, 09:45:51 AM
The problem wasn't the absence of Sanchez, although it obviously didn't help. It's Wenger's ridiculous decision to play Xhaka and Coquelin together in midfield. Xhaka is an awful footballer and two defensive minded players was completely unnecessary against a defence as shambolic as Liverpool's.

They should have attacked Liverpool, who would have crumbled like they usually do when forced to defend.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on March 05, 2017, 01:10:00 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on February 21, 2017, 09:20:21 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 21, 2017, 01:21:49 AM
Quote from: Syferus on February 21, 2017, 12:34:37 AM
Quote from: Minder on February 20, 2017, 09:58:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 20, 2017, 09:40:51 PM
The big lad munching the pie has the right idea.

"Banter" staged by the S*n

The Sun is pretty good for soccer coverage in fairness.
No sane person should even read The Scum after their disgraceful coverage of Hillsborough 1989.
Fixed that.

Bit like blaming Enda Kenny for the recession. The people there have nearly no relationship with something that happened 27 years ago.

The Sun bandwagon is one of the dafter elements of English society, and there are many. I think over here we should have a bit of sense and not culturally appropriate it. The Daily Mail and Telegraph have been far more insidious newspapers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Denn Forever on March 05, 2017, 01:22:17 PM
Everyone is calling for Wenger's head but isn't Steve Bould is the defence coach. 

Did this malaise start when Pat Rice retired?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2017, 08:47:11 PM
Knew something was up.

Alexis dropped for a training ground incident.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on March 05, 2017, 08:51:30 PM
G Neville and others been saying similar on twitter today. Poor form if what they saying is true but hardly surprising from a modern day footballer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on March 06, 2017, 03:23:29 AM
f**k him and f**k them all except maybe big Olivier. Even Hector can bugger away off right now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 07, 2017, 07:28:21 PM
4-0. Walcott all 4.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Main Street on March 07, 2017, 07:37:59 PM
Poor lad, got waylaid and can't find his way home.

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2017/02/21/wenger-out-trump-march-3-large_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqvUO2J18gpp-s-EyWL8nqauGVWBs8JKKIlWfxjR2tVHI.png)

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Helix on March 07, 2017, 09:29:22 PM
Arsenal TV will be a joy to watch tonight. ???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: T Fearon on March 07, 2017, 09:30:13 PM
Wenger must stay! 😂😂😂😂😂😂👍🎉👍🎉🎺🍾🎉🎺🍾🎉🍾🎉🍾

COYS!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 07, 2017, 09:30:50 PM
Weather picking up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 07, 2017, 09:31:05 PM
Ten goals conceded over two legs with some of the most shocking poor defending you will ever see in Champions league football  :o

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: laoislad on March 07, 2017, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: Helix on March 07, 2017, 09:29:22 PM
Arsenal TV will be a joy to watch tonight. ???
Wenger out fam.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 07, 2017, 09:34:59 PM
Alexis sees the funny side of things. WTF?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on March 07, 2017, 09:37:48 PM
Wenget earned over 20000 during that game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Helix on March 07, 2017, 09:38:08 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 07, 2017, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: Helix on March 07, 2017, 09:29:22 PM
Arsenal TV will be a joy to watch tonight. ???
Wenger out fam.

10-2 on aggregate. The phrase you can't polish a terd applicable to this arsenal team. No leaders. No bottle. A serious clear out required. Too many passengers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 07, 2017, 09:42:32 PM
Lincoln really gonna get it on Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: gawa316 on March 07, 2017, 10:56:24 PM
Don't Arsenal 10 2 get knocked out at this stage every year??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Jim Bob on March 07, 2017, 11:25:35 PM
This is the time the wee run of form starts to take them to 4th in the League and qualify for Champions League yet again.  Same every effin year!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: J70 on March 08, 2017, 03:00:07 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on March 07, 2017, 10:56:24 PM
Don't Arsenal 10 2 get knocked out at this stage every year??

;D

Although it would nice, as a Liverpool supporter, to have the chance to get hockeyed by Bayern or Real in the Champions League! :-\
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: gawa316 on March 08, 2017, 05:45:37 AM
Quote from: J70 on March 08, 2017, 03:00:07 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on March 07, 2017, 10:56:24 PM
Don't Arsenal 10 2 get knocked out at this stage every year??

;D

Although it would nice, as a Liverpool supporter, to have the chance to get hockeyed by Bayern or Real in the Champions League! :-\

True and it's only a bit of slegging that I saw on Facebook.

Can't understand that Wenger had Viera and Petit as his midfield axis that was part of his and probably the clubs greatest team and has never really tried replicating that since. The game has changed since then but he's went the complete opposite of those style of players since. I just find it strange
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2017, 07:40:36 AM
Highbury didn't die for this.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on March 08, 2017, 08:41:12 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/27/michael-kimmel-masculinity-far-right-angry-white-men
"There is a famous experiment by a primatologist at Stanford. He takes five monkeys and measures their testosterone. Then he puts the five monkeys in a cage. The monkeys immediately establish a hierarchy of violence – number one beats number two, number two beats number three, number three beats number four, number four beats number five. Of course, number one has the highest testosterone, and so on.
So the experiment is: he takes monkey three out of the cage and he shoots him up with testosterone, off the scale, and puts him back in. What do you think happens? When I tell this story my students always guess that he immediately becomes number-one monkey. But that's not true. What happens is that when he goes back in the cage he still avoids monkeys number one and two – but he beats the shit out of numbers four and five."

Monkey 1 and 2 can be Bayern, Real, Barse, Inter etc
Arsenal is monkey #3
Spurs are monkey #4
West Ham are monkey #5
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 08, 2017, 09:05:19 AM
Do any goons on here think the king of goons should stay??

They don't even play decent football these days. The whole club appears toxic!

Allegri surely has to be the man to take charge. Or George Graham failing that :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on March 08, 2017, 09:09:15 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2017, 07:40:36 AM
Highbury didn't die for this.

When I was 8 or so we were playing a school football match in Galway. And Frank, who was one of the lads, got hit by a car while crossing the road. He had to go to hospital. We were doped on Roy of the Rovers and Gaelsport at the time and we told the teacher, who was a man with not much imagination, that we had decided to win the match for Frank. And he told us to cop on.

Highbury was sold for money. Silent Stan Kroenke has made a lot of money out of the Arse.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on March 08, 2017, 02:57:52 PM
Somedays, you're definitely monkey #5.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Fuzzman on March 08, 2017, 03:51:12 PM
I always wonder why do managers stay on to the end of the season when they know the game is over anyway.
I presume Arsenal board would be happy enough if he left now and they pay him whatever they have to
It will just be painful for the fans and for him to stay on and see more and more protests even should they win the FA cup again.

Are people expecting Sanchez and Ozil to leave?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: AZOffaly on March 08, 2017, 04:03:16 PM
I think a lot of Arsenal fans would like an announcement that Wenger is leaving, then they'd row in behind the team and win the FA Cup and let him ride off into the sunset.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: straightred on March 08, 2017, 04:24:00 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 07, 2017, 09:31:05 PM
Ten goals conceded over two legs with some of the most shocking poor defending you will ever see in Champions league football  :o

I was coaching  a u11 team last night. They have a retreat zone at that age which basically means that in 7 a side the keeper can roll the ball out to a defender. The opposition can only press with 1 player until the defender touches the ball. Then the game is on. We have been struggling with it and giving away stupid goals.

anyway, got home last night and turned on the arsenal game. Lo and behold Bayern's 4th goal came which was exactly the point I was trying to explain to the boys earlier. Straight to the whatsapp group telling the parents to show that goal to their kids and to then ask them to stop moaning about my boring drills  :). Its was unbelievable to watch the schoolboy defending that was going on. They just gave up and that's not good.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on March 08, 2017, 10:08:05 PM
1.   Eamon Mc Gee‏@EamonMcGee 15 feb

Myself and @Ginger079 have more character than that whole Arsenal team. @seamusmicheal @tomasdiver
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: stew on March 09, 2017, 07:29:44 AM
Quote from: straightred on March 08, 2017, 04:24:00 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 07, 2017, 09:31:05 PM
Ten goals conceded over two legs with some of the most shocking poor defending you will ever see in Champions league football  :o

I was coaching  a u11 team last night. They have a retreat zone at that age which basically means that in 7 a side the keeper can roll the ball out to a defender. The opposition can only press with 1 player until the defender touches the ball. Then the game is on. We have been struggling with it and giving away stupid goals.

anyway, got home last night and turned on the arsenal game. Lo and behold Bayern's 4th goal came which was exactly the point I was trying to explain to the boys earlier. Straight to the whatsapp group telling the parents to show that goal to their kids and to then ask them to stop moaning about my boring drills  :). Its was unbelievable to watch the schoolboy defending that was going on. They just gave up and that's not good.


I have been up at Armagh coaching the u-8s-U10s, I am amazed at how indifferent the parents are, some of them drop their kids off for an hour and it only costs them 2 quid, 2 quid to get an hour to yourself whilse wee Johnny might be one to cry because he is missing his xbox or he might be tired and decide to lie down on the playing surface.

Why would anyone have a kid do a sport they have no interest in?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 11, 2017, 10:55:49 PM
Brilliant win against Lincoln. Fairly put them back in their box. Theo was mermerising.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on March 11, 2017, 10:59:44 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 11, 2017, 10:55:49 PM
Brilliant win against Lincoln. Fairly put them back in their box. Theo was mermerising.

;D

Cannon fodder for the Gunners will be lighter on the ground in the semis though..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on March 11, 2017, 11:33:19 PM
I figure I'm more of a Wenger fan than an Arsenal fan. May be the most toxic group of supporters in England, and that's saying something.

Wenger's biggest mistake has been enabling too many average players. Oxlade-Chamberlain wants to leave now? Lad is very lucky to be getting starts for a top four side at all.. it should be AW that's showing lads like that the door, not the other way round.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Main Street on March 11, 2017, 11:35:44 PM
Forfar Athletic would have scored 6 against Lincoln ::)  (not a quote from Chris Sutton, but it could have been).

In the past, Arsenal fans never had enough good times to allow a concept of entitlement to fester, that is until Wenger came.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 12, 2017, 12:04:40 AM
Quote from: Syferus on March 11, 2017, 11:33:19 PM

Wenger's biggest mistake has been enabling too many average players. Oxlade-Chamberlain wants to leave now? Lad is very lucky to be getting starts for a top four side at all.. it should be AW that's showing lads like that the door, not the other way round.

Agree with this.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on March 12, 2017, 09:14:06 AM
Quote from: Main Street on March 11, 2017, 11:35:44 PM
Forfar Athletic would have scored 6 against Lincoln ::)  (not a quote from Chris Sutton, but it could have been).

In the past, Arsenal fans never had enough good times to allow a concept of entitlement to fester, that is until Wenger came.

Chris Sutton though. Angry man.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2017, 02:13:29 PM
Lee Dixon was 53 yesterday
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2017, 02:14:22 PM
Paul Merson will be 49 on Monday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2017, 02:15:41 PM
Marc Overmars will be 44 next week.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2017, 02:17:00 PM
Best wishes to Lee, Paul and Marc, especially Marc who travelled far.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2017, 02:19:16 PM
Ted Drake will be 107 next month. I don't think he's alive.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 18, 2017, 02:21:36 PM
4 West Brom players left unmarked on that 3rd goal.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7NOknSXgAAkwmo.jpg:small)

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2017, 02:22:22 PM
He lived til 82 which one might say is a right old innings though that is ironic because he was a professional cricketer. Haha.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Armamike on March 18, 2017, 04:05:27 PM
Arsenal players on their holidays. Given up on Wenger. Sad to see Wenger leave on this note. Players can be selfish bastards when they want to be.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 18, 2017, 04:21:02 PM
Wenger Out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on March 18, 2017, 07:38:16 PM
Players out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2017, 07:52:42 PM
Everyone out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: StGallsGAA on March 18, 2017, 10:00:15 PM
Has Wenger simply given up now that Fergie isn't around to put 4, 6 or 8 goals past his team home and away? Did those thrashings motivate Wenger to be better than the rest except United?   Can the Jose factor not even make the old man bare his teeth?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2017, 10:05:02 PM
Nah, he's gone. We saw it years ago.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: StGallsGAA on March 18, 2017, 10:25:50 PM
Who to replace?  Steve Bould? Danger of the new George Graham I'd say.  On that point, quite a number of Fergie disciples became managers.  Who of Wenger's wedgelings has actually  made it to management?   Vieira and Adams in asst manager jobs perhaps.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 18, 2017, 10:31:30 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on March 18, 2017, 10:25:50 PM
Who to replace?  Steve Bould? Danger of the new George Graham I'd say.  On that point, quite a number of Fergie disciples became managers.  Who of Wenger's wedgelings has actually  made it to management?   Vieira and Adams in asst manager jobs perhaps.
Bould with a backroom of Adams, Dixon and Winterburn. They wouldn't concede a goal next season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 18, 2017, 10:47:27 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on March 18, 2017, 10:25:50 PM
Who to replace?  Steve Bould? Danger of the new George Graham I'd say.  On that point, quite a number of Fergie disciples became managers.  Who of Wenger's wedgelings has actually  made it to management?   Vieira and Adams in asst manager jobs perhaps.

Anybody. I'd take a relegaion battle for a bitta something.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 18, 2017, 10:49:58 PM
The Falling Of The Leaves - WB Yeats

AUTUMN is over the long leaves that love us,
And over the mice in the barley sheaves;
Yellow the leaves of the rowan above us,
And yellow the wet wild-strawberry leaves.
The hour of the waning of love has beset us,
And weary and worn are our sad souls now;
Let us patt, ere the season of passion forget us,
With a kiss and a tear on thy drooping brow
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on March 19, 2017, 02:43:53 PM
Make Arsenal Great Again
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2017, 06:22:37 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39322517

Get in there!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 20, 2017, 06:29:20 AM
AW staying apparently. The old stubborn bastard.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 20, 2017, 06:37:52 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 20, 2017, 06:29:20 AM
AW staying apparently. The old stubborn b**tard.

Apparently so. His arrogance has no limits. Horrible individual.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 20, 2017, 10:34:27 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 20, 2017, 06:37:52 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 20, 2017, 06:29:20 AM
AW staying apparently. The old stubborn b**tard.

Apparently so. His arrogance has no limits. Horrible individual.

Out of order WC. He just doesn't know it's time to let go, it shouldn't be his decision. As a person he's fantastic, would love to meet the man, just no longer a manager who can get the best out of his players.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 20, 2017, 10:40:50 AM
Haha so you can call him one thing and the rest of us can't.  8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: AZOffaly on March 20, 2017, 10:42:10 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 20, 2017, 10:34:27 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 20, 2017, 06:37:52 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on March 20, 2017, 06:29:20 AM
AW staying apparently. The old stubborn b**tard.

Apparently so. His arrogance has no limits. Horrible individual.

Out of order WC. He just doesn't know it's time to let go, it shouldn't be his decision. As a person he's fantastic, would love to meet the man, just no longer a manager who can get the best out of his players.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/21/FS_ETR_470-053_EC30021_120415_WC_out_of_order.jpg/399px-FS_ETR_470-053_EC30021_120415_WC_out_of_order.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 20, 2017, 10:44:09 AM
 ;D ;D ;D AZ
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Billys Boots on March 20, 2017, 10:47:11 AM
Would have to agree with Dinny; he comes across as an intelligent and thoughtful person who has had an extremely positive influence on the game in general, and especially at his club. 

I listened to an extremely interesting interview on the radio recently (don't know if it was 'Off the Ball' or the Guardian podcast) with a journalist who appears to have the inside track at The Emirates - the board are extremely happy with Wenger, and are not remotely minded to replace him (apparently).  He reported that their main criteria are to keep Arsenal competitive (in the 25th percentile or so, not top-4); keep the season tickets selling and to run the club at a profit.  The long-view is that the club is to be run sustainably, and that the big-money investors (City, Chelsea etc.) are unlikely to want to invest in that (the current) way forever.  Arsenal's day will come again, but they are not going to throw daft money at a rainbow.  Wenger is seen as a safe pair of hands who understands what the board want and is seen as an over-achiever (by the board). 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 20, 2017, 10:50:59 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 20, 2017, 10:40:50 AM
Haha so you can call him one thing and the rest of us can't.  8) 8) 8) 8)

Mine was a term of affection  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 20, 2017, 10:59:00 AM
4th highest paid manager in Europe, most expensive season tickets in Europe. Arsenal fans have been patient with Wenger for a very long time now and are fully entitled to want a change.

I do agree however that the board (Gazidis and co) are more to blame than Wenger. Its been quite the sh1t show since David Dein left.

What drives Arsenal fans potty I feel is this acceptance that they'll never match City or Chelsea. That may well be the case but stop making it known publically. How can Monaco, Dortmund, Athletico and the likes continually beat the big sides of Europe whilst Arsenal are the laughing stocks. It's the same mistakes and failings for years now. They don't even play an attractive brand of football any more.

I pray to god they finish outside the top 4 which is a crock of sh1t fabricated by Sky!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: rodney trotter on March 20, 2017, 11:09:58 AM
They would be better off in the Europa for a change. A competition they can win, instead of the regular last 16 exits in the Champions League.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on March 20, 2017, 02:37:01 PM
Arsene showing more balls than players.

Delighted. Want him to go out on a high and this was going to be going out at the lowest point in his tenure. Deserved far more respect than the nonsense he's been getting the past few seasons.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 20, 2017, 02:42:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 20, 2017, 02:37:01 PM
Arsene showing more balls than players.

Delighted. Want him to go out on a high and this was going to be going out at the lowest point in his tenure. Deserved far more respect than the nonsense he's been getting the past few seasons.

The players actions are a result of the culture of 'no accountability' which exists within the club!

This all stems from one person - Wenger! Arsenal were a big club before he arrived and will be a big club when he leaves!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on March 20, 2017, 02:59:16 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 20, 2017, 02:42:51 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 20, 2017, 02:37:01 PM
Arsene showing more balls than players.

Delighted. Want him to go out on a high and this was going to be going out at the lowest point in his tenure. Deserved far more respect than the nonsense he's been getting the past few seasons.

The players actions are a result of the culture of 'no accountability' which exists within the club!

This all stems from one person - Wenger! Arsenal were a big club before he arrived and will be a big club when he leaves!

Arsenal were unwatchable and unlikable before Arsene, in a stadium that was always going to limit their future growth. The way some of the clouts in the fan base are acting they will definitely become unlikable again if Arsene leaves the house he built. Perhaps no individual has meant more to Arsenal than Arsene Wenger.

Arsenal do things the right way off the field and practice some degree of sanity in their dealings. It should be respected far more than it is. A bit like the manager.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 20, 2017, 03:06:58 PM
Unlikeable? Yes boring at times perhaps but still arguably had the the 3rd biggest fan base behind United and Liverpool pre Wenger so there goes your unlikeable argument!

Also the stadium visionary was actually Danny Fiszman and not solely Wenger which elements in the media would like to portray. It's like Wenger built the Emirates himself.

If you charge the highest season tickets in Europe and cant even make the last 16 year on year (with no green shoots) then your fan base has every right to complain!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on March 20, 2017, 04:08:07 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 20, 2017, 03:06:58 PM
Unlikeable? Yes boring at times perhaps but still arguably had the the 3rd biggest fan base behind United and Liverpool pre Wenger so there goes your unlikeable argument!

Also the stadium visionary was actually Danny Fiszman and not solely Wenger which elements in the media would like to portray. It's like Wenger built the Emirates himself.

If you charge the highest season tickets in Europe and cant even make the last 16 year on year (with no green shoots) then your fan base has every right to complain!!

Without the success and continued European money Wenger brought the new stadium was always going to be nothing more than a pipe dream. He then kept Arsenal competitive while the stadium debt was whittled down, leaving the club in quite a strong position for the future and all without any Middle-Eastern oil money. Ever other top team in England have lost their shirt multiple times trying to chase shadows in Barcelona and Madrid.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 20, 2017, 04:22:00 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 20, 2017, 04:08:07 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 20, 2017, 03:06:58 PM
Unlikeable? Yes boring at times perhaps but still arguably had the the 3rd biggest fan base behind United and Liverpool pre Wenger so there goes your unlikeable argument!

Also the stadium visionary was actually Danny Fiszman and not solely Wenger which elements in the media would like to portray. It's like Wenger built the Emirates himself.

If you charge the highest season tickets in Europe and cant even make the last 16 year on year (with no green shoots) then your fan base has every right to complain!!

Without the success and continued European money Wenger brought the new stadium was always going to be nothing more than a pipe dream. He then kept Arsenal competitive while the stadium debt was whittled down, leaving the club in quite a strong position for the future and all without any Middle-Eastern oil money. Ever other top team in England have lost their shirt multiple times trying to chase shadows in Barcelona and Madrid.

Lol pipe dream!! Arsenal have always had money. They were owned by English aristocracy as long as I can remember.

Poor Arsene has been paid a handsome 8.5 million a year for a number of years now.

When this 2 year deal is announced there will be a serious backlash. The players obviously know its in the offing, hence them downing tools at present.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 20, 2017, 04:24:14 PM
You are both right.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on March 20, 2017, 04:46:44 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 20, 2017, 04:22:00 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 20, 2017, 04:08:07 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 20, 2017, 03:06:58 PM
Unlikeable? Yes boring at times perhaps but still arguably had the the 3rd biggest fan base behind United and Liverpool pre Wenger so there goes your unlikeable argument!

Also the stadium visionary was actually Danny Fiszman and not solely Wenger which elements in the media would like to portray. It's like Wenger built the Emirates himself.

If you charge the highest season tickets in Europe and cant even make the last 16 year on year (with no green shoots) then your fan base has every right to complain!!

Without the success and continued European money Wenger brought the new stadium was always going to be nothing more than a pipe dream. He then kept Arsenal competitive while the stadium debt was whittled down, leaving the club in quite a strong position for the future and all without any Middle-Eastern oil money. Ever other top team in England have lost their shirt multiple times trying to chase shadows in Barcelona and Madrid.

Lol pipe dream!! Arsenal have always had money. They were owned by English aristocracy as long as I can remember.

Poor Arsene has been paid a handsome 8.5 million a year for a number of years now.

When this 2 year deal is announced there will be a serious backlash. The players obviously know its in the offing, hence them downing tools at present.

The players have let their manager down many times in the past too. I'd be blaming them before I'd be blaming the lad who's already built his legacy. His only mistake was having too much faith in some of them. Them playing themselves out the door might be best for both manager and team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on April 10, 2017, 10:19:49 PM
Thought captain Theo was class.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Armamike on April 10, 2017, 10:50:23 PM
Would hate to have to support them.  Bunch of fancy dans.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on April 10, 2017, 10:53:01 PM
Not even fancy dans. Wilshere was fancy dannish. Just shite now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 10, 2017, 10:57:35 PM
A season away from european football could work in the Gooners favour just look at Chelsea and Liverpool this season..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: The Stallion on April 10, 2017, 10:58:21 PM
The problem is there aren't enough fancy dans.

Playing Elneny and Xhaka is just asking for trouble, there is no need for both and it weakens Arsenal considerably. Add in the fact some players just aren't very good like Walcott, Gabriel etc and it's no wonder they're struggling.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on April 10, 2017, 11:02:12 PM
Fcuk up about Walcott. He's our captain.

O Captain! my Captain! our fearful trip is done,
The ship has weather'd every rack, the prize we sought is won,
The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting,
While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring;
                         But O heart! heart! heart!
                            O the bleeding drops of red,
                               Where on the deck my Captain lies,
                                  Fallen cold and dead.

O Captain! my Captain! rise up and hear the bells;
Rise up—for you the flag is flung—for you the bugle trills,
For you bouquets and ribbon'd wreaths—for you the shores a-crowding,
For you they call, the swaying mass, their eager faces turning;
                         Here Captain! dear father!
                            This arm beneath your head!
                               It is some dream that on the deck,
                                 You've fallen cold and dead.

My Captain does not answer, his lips are pale and still,
My father does not feel my arm, he has no pulse nor will,
The ship is anchor'd safe and sound, its voyage closed and done,
From fearful trip the victor ship comes in with object won;
                         Exult O shores, and ring O bells!
                            But I with mournful tread,
                               Walk the deck my Captain lies,
                                  Fallen cold and dead.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: The Stallion on April 10, 2017, 11:09:29 PM
He's also shite.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on April 11, 2017, 12:45:09 AM
When Konscielny went off against city they played the second half with no captain. Clearly just a mistake but it speaks volumes. Today was an incredible low. Pounded off the park by Palace
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on April 11, 2017, 01:05:27 AM
Time to get the bi-plane out again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Never beat the deeler on April 11, 2017, 01:33:02 AM
Quote from: Syferus on April 11, 2017, 01:05:27 AM
Time to get the bi-plane out again.

Not at all. Arsenal fans have got what they wanted. All the reasons they wanted Wenger out, and they don't even need to get rid of him.

Sick of finishing fourth
Don't even care if we are mid-table for a couple of years
Don't want to qualify for Champions league just to get knocked out in the last 16

Done. Fam
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on April 11, 2017, 07:39:55 AM
Quote from: The Stallion on April 10, 2017, 10:58:21 PM
The problem is there aren't enough fancy dans.

Playing Elneny and Xhaka is just asking for trouble, there is no need for both and it weakens Arsenal considerably. Add in the fact some players just aren't very good like Walcott, Gabriel etc and it's no wonder they're struggling.

Tottenham are the fancy dans . 15/15
the Arse are the hard workers. 4/15
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Hectic on April 11, 2017, 08:41:32 AM
Yeah Spurs have a really good mix of players who are strong but can play - you look at their backbone with Alderweirald, Vertongen, Dembele, Ali, Kane - all top players technically but also all strong as an ox.  Walker, Rose, Wanyama, Son etc not too shabby either.

Sadly the Deja vu title of this thread looks like it is not even going to be relevant this season with the usual celebration of finishing top 4 looking less and less likely and celebrating St Totteringham day needing a real miracle.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 11, 2017, 09:40:38 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on April 11, 2017, 01:33:02 AM
Quote from: Syferus on April 11, 2017, 01:05:27 AM
Time to get the bi-plane out again.

Not at all. Arsenal fans have got what they wanted. All the reasons they wanted Wenger out, and they don't even need to get rid of him.

Sick of finishing fourth
Don't even care if we are mid-table for a couple of years
Don't want to qualify for Champions league just to get knocked out in the last 16

Done. Fam
Yep. It's all coming together for them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Minder on April 11, 2017, 10:47:01 PM
Very good documentary on BT Sport - Rocky & Wrighty : From Brockley to the big time
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: The Gs Man on April 13, 2017, 08:26:23 AM
Mind the gap lads...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on April 14, 2017, 11:13:48 PM
St Totteringham's a non-runner for the first time since 1995.

What else happened that year?

Buckin Dubs are gonna bate us in the final.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on April 15, 2017, 12:50:57 PM
It's amazing how in a year that featured Super Klopp's first full season, Pep failing to mount a challenge because he got rid of his best keeper and brought in a donkey to replace him, Jose finding a (typically boring) way to not lose yet still Van Gaal it and end up 5th, Leicester betraying Ranieri, Big Sam flaming out in the national job because he's a corrupt fúcker and still finding time to drag a club out of relegation and Chelsea realizing that they aren't total shite, the biggest story of the year is hysterical Arsenal fans running through the streets of London as if someone's continually setting their pants on fire.

Arsenal Fan TV really got the golden goose this year. Set up for life.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on April 23, 2017, 05:50:16 PM
21 more years!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Denn Forever on April 23, 2017, 06:04:50 PM
Why does nobody point the finger at Steve Bould?  He's defensive coach isn;t he?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on April 23, 2017, 06:32:17 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 23, 2017, 06:04:50 PM
Why does nobody point the finger at Steve Bould?  He's defensive coach isn;t he?

Coz Wenger in charge innit, bruv? Buck stops with the pitch and toss, fam.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on April 30, 2017, 11:33:48 AM
Come on, Arsenal. One last time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on April 30, 2017, 07:04:23 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 30, 2017, 11:33:48 AM
Come on, Arsenal. One last time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2VpR8HahKc

But it didn't happen
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on April 30, 2017, 08:42:20 PM
shh...listen don't you hear
I'm crying but they are silent tears
I'm crying on the inside so you can't see
all the pain running though me

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on April 30, 2017, 09:13:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs3D6ThSUug

Seal da rabhas im' mhaighdean shéimh,
'S anois im' bhaintreach chaite thréith,
Mo chéile ag treabhadh na dtonn go tréan.
De bharr na gcnoc is i n-imigcéin.

Once I was a gentle maiden,
But now I am a spent, worn-out widow,
My consort strongly plowing the waves
Over the hills and far away.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on May 01, 2017, 09:48:39 AM
Arsenal finances

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ8jPJ7bwmM
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: T Fearon on May 05, 2017, 07:33:45 PM
Have you recovered from the Feast of Arseover yet?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on May 06, 2017, 10:15:35 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 05, 2017, 07:33:45 PM
Have you recovered from the Feast of Arseover yet?

Spurs greatest ever season is finishing 2nd, no cup finals and going out in the group stages of league. Arsenals worst in a long time is being in a Cup Final and getting to last 16 in Europe. Arsenal at their poorest such as 93 94 etc at least won cups. Spurs last won the league in black and white and have a barely there trophy cabinet but the spurs way and all that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Main Street on May 06, 2017, 11:06:15 AM
Roberts passes up U20 World Cup spot to stay at Celtic.
"In such a special year for the club I want to be part of everything here."
Nice one kid.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39825899 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39825899)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on May 07, 2017, 11:08:33 PM
Nice to beat Utd but worryingly gives the club a chink of light of a CL place and another contract. Quite disturbing really.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: T Fearon on May 07, 2017, 11:09:47 PM
Thanks to Arsenal for securing Spurs Champions League place today! Maybe someday we will return the compliment! 😂👍😂👍😂👍😂
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on May 07, 2017, 11:11:55 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 07, 2017, 11:09:47 PM
Thanks to Arsenal for securing Spurs Champions League place today! Maybe someday we will return the compliment! 😂👍😂👍😂👍😂

It's ok. Arsenal have won two league titles at White Harte Lane.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on May 07, 2017, 11:12:50 PM
No bother Anthony. Spurs' CL performances are class and a delight to watch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on May 07, 2017, 11:16:07 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 07, 2017, 11:11:55 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 07, 2017, 11:09:47 PM
Thanks to Arsenal for securing Spurs Champions League place today! Maybe someday we will return the compliment! 😂👍😂👍😂👍😂

It's ok. Arsenal have won two league titles at White Harte Lane.

Which one was your favourite? I'm not old enough to remember '71 but '04 was class.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on May 07, 2017, 11:22:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 07, 2017, 11:16:07 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 07, 2017, 11:11:55 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 07, 2017, 11:09:47 PM
Thanks to Arsenal for securing Spurs Champions League place today! Maybe someday we will return the compliment! 😂👍😂👍😂👍😂

It's ok. Arsenal have won two league titles at White Harte Lane.

Which one was your favourite? I'm not old enough to remember '71 but '04 was class.

It's funny the 94 Cup Winners Cup my happiest memory as fan.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on May 07, 2017, 11:41:57 PM
For me, the 87 Littlewoods Cup. Perry Groves. Charlie Nicholas.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on May 07, 2017, 11:44:59 PM
All that's needed is Liverpool dropping any points and Arsenal winning out to get the promised land after all that drama..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on May 08, 2017, 12:00:35 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 07, 2017, 11:44:59 PM
All that's needed is zliverpool dropping any points and Arsenal winning out to get the promised land after all that drama..

It's not a promised land. Finish 4th to qualify for a tournament you won't win. Like time Liverpool played reserves against Madrid to improve chance of qualifying for tournament they played reserves in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 08, 2017, 12:09:43 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 07, 2017, 11:41:57 PM
For me, the 87 Littlewoods Cup. Perry Groves. Charlie Nicholas.
I think I still have my commerative mug at my Granny's house. Must be worth a fortune now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on May 09, 2017, 02:00:44 PM
Between 2000 and 2016 Arsenal made £123 million selling players to Barcelona. It's a feeder club, innit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: naka on May 09, 2017, 02:23:44 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 07, 2017, 11:44:59 PM
All that's needed is Liverpool dropping any points and Arsenal winning out to get the promised land after all that drama..
actually fancy arsenal to get fourth
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: From the Bunker on May 09, 2017, 02:51:04 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 09, 2017, 02:00:44 PM
Between 2000 and 2016 Arsenal made £123 million selling players to Barcelona. It's a feeder club, innit.

They must have made the same amount selling players to Man City?

Samir Nasri, Bacary Sagna, Kolo Toure, Gael Clichy and Emmanuel Adebayor

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on May 10, 2017, 10:17:03 PM
This is a nightmare.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on May 14, 2017, 12:02:31 AM
Jesus Christ. The nightmare continues.

The only positive is the hilarious nervousness of the Liverpool supporters.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on May 14, 2017, 07:56:32 AM
The usual Arsenal run when the league is out of reach continues.

Cue more sh!te about mental strength from Wenger and Groundhog Day next year.

Expect to see an inconsistent winger and a 'technical' midfielder bought, with Walcott, Giroud etc getting new contracts.



Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on May 14, 2017, 11:54:56 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on May 14, 2017, 07:56:32 AM
The usual Arsenal run when the league is out of reach continues.

Cue more sh!te about mental strength from Wenger and Groundhog Day next year.

Expect to see an inconsistent winger and a 'technical' midfielder bought, with Walcott, Giroud etc getting new contracts.

Giroud got a new contract a few months ago. You're not keeping up.

Wenger getting business done as usual.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on May 14, 2017, 12:40:46 PM
Fast forward to next March. CL qf.
Arsenal 0. Bayern Munich 15 on aggregate
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on May 14, 2017, 11:02:54 PM
With Wenger most likely staying, at least the Europa Cup offers something different. I've only about 30 years max left on this planet. Can't have another year of the famous graph:

http://s127.photobucket.com/user/thegermanflowerpot/media/Arsenal-2.jpg.html

(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p142/thegermanflowerpot/Arsenal-2.jpg)[/URL]

This is interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ8jPJ7bwmM
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 15, 2017, 11:14:52 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 18, 2016, 10:29:24 AM
Wexit!

Has this happened yet?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 16, 2017, 08:29:56 PM
Why such a small crowd at this game tonight did the season ticket holders boycott it?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on May 16, 2017, 09:06:46 PM

Matt @HoldingFC
Only Arsenal would concede an indirect free kick from 6 yards away
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on May 16, 2017, 09:08:42 PM
Making John O'Shea look like Paulo Maldini here
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: The Stallion on May 16, 2017, 09:09:21 PM
An old man with no pace?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Main Street on May 16, 2017, 09:44:21 PM
Desperate times call for an old and trusted desperate measure, to get the poison into the Liverpool team's lunchtime soup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: angermanagement on May 22, 2017, 12:16:57 AM
Tough week for Bayern. Alonso and Lahm retire and arsenal  out of  CL.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on May 24, 2017, 12:50:13 AM
Could get hammered on Saturday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on May 26, 2017, 09:15:41 PM
How do Arsenal beat Chelsea?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 26, 2017, 09:30:09 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 26, 2017, 09:15:41 PM
How do Arsenal beat Chelsea?
Two ways.

1. By scoring more goals than Chelsea will
2. Hang on for a draw and win the lottery of a penalty of shoot out.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on May 26, 2017, 09:46:10 PM
Like 2005. Read somewhere this week that Arsenal had no shots on target that day, apart from the penalty shoot-out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: AZOffaly on May 26, 2017, 09:50:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 26, 2017, 09:15:41 PM
How do Arsenal beat Chelsea?
Alphabetically?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on May 27, 2017, 07:27:39 PM
Fùcking the doubters. Wenger is one of the greats.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on May 27, 2017, 08:56:55 PM
Wasn't Mertesacker class. That's 93, 98, 02, 03, 05, 14, 15, 17 I've seen. Only blot was that bollocks Owen in 2001.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: BennyCake on May 27, 2017, 10:23:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 27, 2017, 08:56:55 PM
Wasn't Mertesacker class. That's 93, 98, 02, 03, 05, 14, 15, 17 I've seen. Only blot was that bollocks Owen in 2001.

Since they stole 2005, I think that evens up 2001.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 27, 2017, 10:43:19 PM
Now that's the send off John Terry deserved.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on May 27, 2017, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 27, 2017, 10:43:19 PM
Now that's the send off John Terry deserved.

That was an embarrassment last week. Probably the cheapest thing i've seen in sport since Eubank/Close.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 27, 2017, 10:52:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 27, 2017, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 27, 2017, 10:43:19 PM
Now that's the send off John Terry deserved.

That was an embarrassment last week. Probably the cheapest thing i've seen in sport since Eubank/Close.
Big Rogie v Fury?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Avondhu star on May 28, 2017, 12:00:55 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 27, 2017, 10:43:19 PM
Now that's the send off John Terry deserved.
Let him choke on his jellied eels. The lads on the Blackstock Rd in Highbury will Rock the Bank of Friendship tonight. Maybe Corbyn will call in and buy a round
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Declan on May 30, 2017, 01:44:12 PM
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has agreed a new two-year contract, extending his 21-year reign at the club.

Wenger and club owner Stan Kroenke met on Monday to determine the Frenchman's future, with the decision relayed to directors at a Tuesday board meeting.

Arsenal are planning to make an official announcement on Wednesday.

The Gunners were fifth in the Premier League this season, the first time they have finished outside the top four since the Frenchman joined in 1996.

They finished 18 points behind champions Chelsea, but beat the Blues to win the FA Cup at Wembley on Saturday.

Wenger's contract was set to finish at the end of the current campaign.

He led the Gunners to three Premier League titles and four FA Cups in his first nine seasons in charge.

In 2003-04, he became the first manager since 1888-89 to lead a team through an entire top-flight season unbeaten.

But after winning the 2005 FA Cup, they had to wait another nine years - or 3,283 days - for their next silverware. It came as they beat Hull City to win the 2014 FA Cup, before winning the trophy again the following year.

Some Gunners fans turned on the 67-year-old Frenchman as a result of their league performances and they lost 10-2 on aggregate to Bayern Munich in the Champions League last 16 in March.

They finished the league season with five successive victories, but it was not enough to carry them above Liverpool to take the fourth and final Champions League spot.

Wenger told BBC's Football Focus on Saturday that the criticism he has faced this season is "a disgrace" he will "never forget".

More to follow.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on May 30, 2017, 01:46:53 PM
Love that Wenger hit back, quite rightly. Being able to concentrate on the league next season might be a blessing in disguise.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ballinaman on May 30, 2017, 03:40:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 30, 2017, 01:46:53 PM
Love that Wenger hit back, quite rightly. Being able to concentrate on the league next season might be a blessing in disguise.
Thursday night football.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on May 30, 2017, 05:07:16 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 30, 2017, 03:40:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 30, 2017, 01:46:53 PM
Love that Wenger hit back, quite rightly. Being able to concentrate on the league next season might be a blessing in disguise.
Thursday night football.

Should send a reserve squad on Thursdays and Bould.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: laoislad on May 30, 2017, 05:27:13 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 30, 2017, 05:07:16 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 30, 2017, 03:40:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 30, 2017, 01:46:53 PM
Love that Wenger hit back, quite rightly. Being able to concentrate on the league next season might be a blessing in disguise.
Thursday night football.

Should send a reserve squad on Thursdays and Bould.
Might be their only route back into the Champions League.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on May 30, 2017, 05:50:00 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 30, 2017, 05:07:16 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 30, 2017, 03:40:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 30, 2017, 01:46:53 PM
Love that Wenger hit back, quite rightly. Being able to concentrate on the league next season might be a blessing in disguise.
Thursday night football.

Should send a reserve squad on Thursdays and Bould.

Not really feasible.. English clubs have treated it with various amounts of contempt over the years but at the very least Arsenal will have to treat it semi seriously til Feb  and then see whether they need to prioritise it then in the New Year a bit like United this season. The Thurs/Sun slog isn't conducive to a good league campaign either..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on May 30, 2017, 05:53:58 PM
Quote from: Boycey on May 30, 2017, 05:50:00 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 30, 2017, 05:07:16 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 30, 2017, 03:40:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 30, 2017, 01:46:53 PM
Love that Wenger hit back, quite rightly. Being able to concentrate on the league next season might be a blessing in disguise.
Thursday night football.

Should send a reserve squad on Thursdays and Bould.

Not really feasible.. English clubs have treated it with various amounts of contempt over the years but at the very least Arsenal will have to treat it semi seriously til Feb  and then see whether they need to prioritise it then in the New Year a bit like United this season. The Thurs/Sun slog isn't conducive to a good league campaign either..

Could never understand this with Champ League often Wednesday Saturday.  Big squad should be that argument redundant.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on May 31, 2017, 09:40:19 AM
News from purgatory . 2 years with presumably automatic renewal

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/may/30/arsene-wenger-arsenal-stan-kroenke
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 31, 2017, 11:07:13 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 30, 2017, 05:53:58 PM
Quote from: Boycey on May 30, 2017, 05:50:00 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 30, 2017, 05:07:16 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 30, 2017, 03:40:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 30, 2017, 01:46:53 PM
Love that Wenger hit back, quite rightly. Being able to concentrate on the league next season might be a blessing in disguise.
Thursday night football.

Should send a reserve squad on Thursdays and Bould.

Not really feasible.. English clubs have treated it with various amounts of contempt over the years but at the very least Arsenal will have to treat it semi seriously til Feb  and then see whether they need to prioritise it then in the New Year a bit like United this season. The Thurs/Sun slog isn't conducive to a good league campaign either..

Could never understand this with Champ League often Wednesday Saturday.  Big squad should be that argument redundant.

Exactly. Its a silly excuse. Possibly greater distances to travel but the argument doesn't stack up if you've a big squad. Spurs will do nothing at Wembley next year and well Liverpool are Liverpool. No reason Arsenal can't recover next season and compete if they keep Sanchez and build.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on May 31, 2017, 11:58:37 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 31, 2017, 11:07:13 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 30, 2017, 05:53:58 PM
Quote from: Boycey on May 30, 2017, 05:50:00 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on May 30, 2017, 05:07:16 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 30, 2017, 03:40:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 30, 2017, 01:46:53 PM
Love that Wenger hit back, quite rightly. Being able to concentrate on the league next season might be a blessing in disguise.
Thursday night football.

Should send a reserve squad on Thursdays and Bould.

Not really feasible.. English clubs have treated it with various amounts of contempt over the years but at the very least Arsenal will have to treat it semi seriously til Feb  and then see whether they need to prioritise it then in the New Year a bit like United this season. The Thurs/Sun slog isn't conducive to a good league campaign either..

Could never understand this with Champ League often Wednesday Saturday.  Big squad should be that argument redundant.

Exactly. Its a silly excuse. Possibly greater distances to travel but the argument doesn't stack up if you've a big squad. Spurs will do nothing at Wembley next year and well Liverpool are Liverpool. No reason Arsenal can't recover next season and compete if they keep Sanchez and build.

Taking Sanchez off with a couple minutes left in the final was Wengers way of letting him get a send off from supporters. He's gone.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: StGallsGAA on May 31, 2017, 06:41:14 PM
Within hours of Arsene Wenger signing a 2 year contract extension he has got straight to work strengthening the squad by signing  Ive Notterdovhim from Spartak Timbuktu and Zumrandum Affrikkaner from Free Nelson Mandela United for £39.99 each. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on May 31, 2017, 06:58:41 PM
If theres a funnier guy on this board than the man above ive yet to see him :o
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Armamike on May 31, 2017, 09:37:39 PM
Stallion.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: StGallsGAA on June 06, 2017, 12:16:21 PM
Looks like Wenger has decided that even Poundland is too expensive....

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jun/06/sead-kolasinac-first-summer-signing-arsenal-from-schalke
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on June 06, 2017, 12:43:14 PM
Kolasinac is a big strong LB who was one of the best performers for Shalke. Great bit of business.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on June 06, 2017, 12:45:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2017, 12:43:14 PM
Kolasinac is a big strong LB who was one of the best performers for Shalke. Great bit of business.

How do you know?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on June 06, 2017, 12:57:57 PM
Quote from: Boycey on June 06, 2017, 12:45:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2017, 12:43:14 PM
Kolasinac is a big strong LB who was one of the best performers for Shalke. Great bit of business.

How do you know?

Because I'm aware of more than the EPL?

This move was on for months. The only reason it's free and not £20-25m (lad is only 23 to boot) is the player let his contract run down.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on June 06, 2017, 01:08:18 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2017, 12:43:14 PM
Kolasinac is a big strong LB who was one of the best performers for Shalke. Great bit of business.

In the German League Team of Year too. He's well built and physical. Not a Wenger like signing. Bellerin looks to be off as well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 06, 2017, 01:14:29 PM
Bit stocky looking. Hopefully more Ivanovic than Andre Santos
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: TabClear on June 06, 2017, 01:29:10 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2017, 12:57:57 PM
Quote from: Boycey on June 06, 2017, 12:45:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2017, 12:43:14 PM
Kolasinac is a big strong LB who was one of the best performers for Shalke. Great bit of business.

How do you know?

Because I'm aware of more than the EPL?

This move was on for months. The only reason it's free and not £20-25m (lad is only 23 to boot) is the player let his contract run down.

Same way liverpool picked up Matip last year. Turned out decent value for £0
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on June 06, 2017, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2017, 12:57:57 PM
Quote from: Boycey on June 06, 2017, 12:45:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2017, 12:43:14 PM
Kolasinac is a big strong LB who was one of the best performers for Shalke. Great bit of business.

How do you know?

Because I'm aware of more than the EPL?

This move was on for months. The only reason it's free and not £20-25m (lad is only 23 to boot) is the player let his contract run down.

I'd say you have seen him play as many times as myself... and are working off what you have read on the internet rather than your own knowledge.

Not a criticism aimed at you in particular, similar will be posted on all the footie threads over the summer. I'll probably even do it myself  ;D

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on June 06, 2017, 02:04:44 PM
Quote from: Boycey on June 06, 2017, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2017, 12:57:57 PM
Quote from: Boycey on June 06, 2017, 12:45:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 06, 2017, 12:43:14 PM
Kolasinac is a big strong LB who was one of the best performers for Shalke. Great bit of business.

How do you know?

Because I'm aware of more than the EPL?

This move was on for months. The only reason it's free and not £20-25m (lad is only 23 to boot) is the player let his contract run down.

I'd say you have seen him play as many times as myself... and are working off what you have read on the internet rather than your own knowledge.

Not a criticism aimed at you in particular, similar will be posted on all the footie threads over the summer. I'll probably even do it myself  ;D

If Wenger wants to get serious about 3ATB this lad is exactly the sort of player you need at WB. Similar size to Marcos Alonso and probably a good bit stronger too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 08, 2017, 09:30:34 AM
Sanchez to Citeh apparently.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tiempo on June 08, 2017, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on June 08, 2017, 09:30:34 AM
Sanchez to Citeh apparently.

Bet he cant wait to tog out alongside Clichy and Otamendi in the most ill balanced squad in the top 6, with Timmy Chocolate-Wrists in nets for good measure. After his performances in Feb and March he can get fúcked, good riddance.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on June 08, 2017, 10:11:10 AM
Clichy released. If you believe every clickbait transfer rumour this summer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: johnneycool on June 08, 2017, 03:36:26 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 08, 2017, 10:11:10 AM
Clichy released. If you believe every clickbait transfer rumour this summer.

Sagna gone also. Neither he nor Clichy could defend for toffee.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 08, 2017, 06:38:32 PM
Talk of Barca after Bellerin. Are they mental. He's fairly average and his pace makes up for his lack of spatial awareness. As for his final ball  :o

If Wenger intends to play a 3-5-2 Ox is better at wing back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on June 08, 2017, 06:58:19 PM
Bellerin is better than Chamberlin, who is lucky to be at a big club in the first place.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 08, 2017, 08:57:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 08, 2017, 06:58:19 PM
Bellerin is better than Chamberlin, who is lucky to be at a big club in the first place.

How many live Arsenal games have you been to this season?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on July 05, 2017, 08:35:38 PM
Finallyreplaced VanPersie.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on July 05, 2017, 11:24:23 PM
If Arsenal keep Sanchez and Mahrez and/or Lemar arrive this is going to be one hell of a team going forward. As in they may be the best attacking team in the league bar none.

I say overpaying Sanchez is worth it to keep such a good player and keep him from jumping to a direct rival. If this is Wenger's last run at it it's time to put the marbles on the table and open the cheque book. Big clubs don't sell their best player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on July 05, 2017, 11:35:15 PM
All the wrong buys.

Arsenal need a Kante or Wanyama or a couple of defenders.

A good striker didn't prevent 10 goals against Munich.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on July 06, 2017, 12:14:05 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 05, 2017, 11:35:15 PM
All the wrong buys.

Arsenal need a Kante or Wanyama or a couple of defenders.

A good striker didn't prevent 10 goals against Munich.

How could a top class striker be a wrong buy when Giroud is the best on the go? A front three of Sanchez, Lacazette and Mahrez with Ozil sitting behind them pinging passes would be as good if not better than any in the EPL and only bettered internationally by Barca and Real. If you can score goals for fun a weak defence is the least of your problems - ask Barca.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on July 06, 2017, 12:31:24 AM
Hahahahaha.

You're some crack.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on July 06, 2017, 07:54:23 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 05, 2017, 11:35:15 PM
All the wrong buys.

Arsenal need a Kante or Wanyama or a couple of defenders.

A good striker didn't prevent 10 goals against Munich.

Kos going of didn't help in both games. 2 1 Arsenal when he on field  9 0 Munich when he of.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on August 02, 2017, 10:49:39 PM
Well lads, ready for another year of brilliance?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 03, 2017, 09:25:50 AM
This is the only the time of the year that I wish I was a Liverpool fan, their unbridled confidence that this will be their year, such innocence. Alas we all know how the Arsenal season will end before it even starts, don't we?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 03, 2017, 09:32:16 AM
No group of fans display the confidence of Liverpool. Mind you all seem to be in their 40s.

Centre mid still a massive issue for me. Ramsey and Granit doesn't work.

Anyone know much on this Jean Michel Seri?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on August 03, 2017, 10:07:59 AM
Xhaka and Ramsey was showing signs of working but won't be able to play every game. Carzola is such a huge loss.

Seri looks really good but it's dependent on Arsenal getting rid of a lot of dead wood and clearing wage bill. Jack has decided he wants to stay because nobody will pay his wages.

Lemar will probably be done before end of transfer window.

Take Seri and Lemar will help but still reckon we're short a top class central defender with Kos achilles a problem. Kolasnic looks good and so physical.

Overall early season optimistic feeling to be replaced by post January collapse. And repeat.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on August 04, 2017, 07:08:35 PM
Sanchez kissing the badge yesterday, Barry Solan must have got Andy on the phone for a chat.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 06, 2017, 04:06:55 PM
WTF was the that penalty shootout format? and WTF was Courtois taking a penalty for?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on August 06, 2017, 04:59:32 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on August 06, 2017, 04:06:55 PM
WTF was the that penalty shootout format? and WTF was Courtois taking a penalty for?

It's been well flagged up that they're changing the shoot format.. Traditional format favours the team going 1st something like 60/40. As for the goalie taking a peno what odds sure it's a pre season friendly. If memory serves me right Seaman took one in same fixture in 1994ish, a game I was at. He missed too I think
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 11, 2017, 09:28:17 PM
Wenger out. Too early?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on August 11, 2017, 09:37:01 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 11, 2017, 09:28:17 PM
Wenger out. Too early?

Yeah
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 11, 2017, 09:40:48 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 11, 2017, 09:37:01 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 11, 2017, 09:28:17 PM
Wenger out. Too early?
I think so too.

Yeah
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: galwayman on August 11, 2017, 09:50:30 PM
How did Monreal play tonight?
Always seems like a liability to my eyes anyway.
Defence a huge weakness in this team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on August 11, 2017, 09:57:01 PM
Quote from: galwayman on August 11, 2017, 09:50:30 PM
How did Monreal play tonight?
Always seems like a liability to my eyes anyway.
Defence a huge weakness in this team.

Monreal was ok. Holding was awful. Bellerin terrible at RWB but good at LB. Kolasnic is class.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Windmill abu on August 11, 2017, 10:20:35 PM
When Koscielny and Mustafi are both fit, hopefully the defence will tighten up. Arsenal created plenty of chances tonight. If Sanchez stays there may be plenty of goals to look forward to.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on August 11, 2017, 10:24:44 PM
Would love a Virgil and Seri.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on August 13, 2017, 12:35:47 AM
Hard to read much into that result. Monreal was the pivot for the defence. Hilarious stuff but forced on them by injury.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: StGallsGAA on August 19, 2017, 08:05:46 PM
So what about Merson's recommendation for Wenger to sell Sanchez to United so he can have a crack at winning the league?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on August 19, 2017, 11:50:53 PM
Same old crap. Wenger has to see the light. Seriously.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 20, 2017, 01:28:15 AM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on August 19, 2017, 08:05:46 PM
So what about Merson's recommendation for Wenger to sell Sanchez to United so he can have a crack at winning the league?

Merson just has about enough brains not to eat himself! Possibly the biggest Muppet on TV.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on August 20, 2017, 01:52:00 AM
No shit do they need to keep Sanchez.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on August 20, 2017, 02:34:50 AM
Same old shit, Wenger addresses 1 position each year and thinks that is the magic number

So far off a top 4 team, never mind CL it's unttrue.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: stew on August 20, 2017, 01:13:56 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 19, 2017, 11:50:53 PM
Same old crap. Wenger has to see the light. Seriously.

He needs to see the door! The man is a spent force as a manager capable of winning the title.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on August 27, 2017, 07:35:50 PM
Needs to quit or be sacked.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on August 27, 2017, 11:01:24 PM
He has lost his marbles.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Minder on August 27, 2017, 11:12:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 27, 2017, 11:01:24 PM
He has lost his marbles.

He has but surely the players have to take some responsibility
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on August 27, 2017, 11:55:22 PM
Not in this multi-millionaire environment.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Main Street on August 28, 2017, 04:36:28 PM
Nigel Winterburn in a deluded fit has decided that because of a past association with Arsenal, that he is responsible for what transpired against Liverpool and that he should publicly apologise for it, on behalf of the club.
I assume these days that Nigel must be 11 pence short of the full shilling

"Firstly, being associated with the club, I need to apologise to the supporters.
"I was there yesterday and I really did feel for them. People know I work for the club but this morning I am a little bit lost for words."
etc etc.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on August 28, 2017, 05:06:50 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 27, 2017, 11:12:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 27, 2017, 11:01:24 PM
He has lost his marbles.

He has but surely the players have to take some responsibility

Club record signing on bench. German league LB of year on bench and a right back starting LB. Playin Ox a couple of days after he says he wants to leave. Only one man responsible for that. Ox first to leave the sinking ship. Watch him become a superstar under a proper coach. Mustafi being loaned out. Madness.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on August 28, 2017, 06:16:29 PM
Can't believe Chelsea want an average player like Oxlade-Chamberlain. I suppose £35 million is inflated by him being English but it's a good sum for someone who isn't going to be much of a loss.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on August 29, 2017, 10:58:28 AM
Talk of City now offering Sterling & cash for Sanchez.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 29, 2017, 11:00:24 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on August 29, 2017, 10:58:28 AM
Talk of City now offering Sterling & cash for Sanchez.
So sterling then.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: blewuporstuffed on August 29, 2017, 11:09:50 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 28, 2017, 06:16:29 PM
Can't believe Chelsea want an average player like Oxlade-Chamberlain. I suppose £35 million is inflated by him being English but it's a good sum for someone who isn't going to be much of a loss.
seems crazy when he is available for free next year
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on August 29, 2017, 06:02:18 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on August 29, 2017, 10:58:28 AM
Talk of City now offering Sterling & cash for Sanchez.

With the age of Sterling, his form and fact he's an English player this has to be a very tempting deal for Wenger. I'm a bit blind-sighted that Pep would be willing to shift him, and it sounds like the player is as well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on August 29, 2017, 06:05:13 PM
Man City now demanding cash and Sanchez for Sterling.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on August 29, 2017, 07:53:17 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 29, 2017, 06:05:13 PM
Man City now demanding cash and Sanchez for Sterling.

If true, City are pushing their luck. Sterling is a downgrade from Sanchez. Doesn't benefit them playing hardball because teams that weren't willing to pay a big fee and big money wages to Sanchez will be more than willing to stump up the wages next summer if he's available on a free.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 01, 2017, 09:56:18 AM
Is it May yet and the start of summer transfer season?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 01, 2017, 10:00:27 AM
Dressing room gone. Could be lucky to make top 8.

Bruce Rioch available?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: AZOffaly on September 01, 2017, 10:23:06 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on September 01, 2017, 10:00:27 AM
Dressing room gone. Could be lucky to make top 8.

Bruce Rioch available?

They sold the dressing room?


In all seriousness, there does appear to be something rotten at the Emirates. I thought they were one of the cash rich clubs because of the way they've been run, but then they say they have no money. Is Kroenke using them as a cash cow for the Rams?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 01, 2017, 10:29:36 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 01, 2017, 10:23:06 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on September 01, 2017, 10:00:27 AM
Dressing room gone. Could be lucky to make top 8.

Bruce Rioch available?

They sold the dressing room?


In all seriousness, there does appear to be something rotten at the Emirates. I thought they were one of the cash rich clubs because of the way they've been run, but then they say they have no money. Is Kroenke using them as a cash cow for the Rams?

He is indeed. The new franchise stadium in LA. A cool $2 billion!

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/look-rams-show-off-splashy-model-of-new-2-6-billion-stadium-in-los-angeles/

I blame the old aristocracy who sat on the board. They thought they were above Chelsea by refusing to sell to Usmanov, whilst Kroenke bleeds the club. Gazidis and co are puppets. Wenger runs the club. Nothing worse than an old fool.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 01, 2017, 01:03:45 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on September 01, 2017, 10:00:27 AM
Dressing room gone. Could be lucky to make top 8.

Bruce Rioch available?
Maybe Arsenal are aiming to reach the Champions league this season by winning the Europa League. More interesting doing it that way than a boring 4th place finish?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on September 01, 2017, 03:05:46 PM
It's a complete head scratching shambles at the club right now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on September 01, 2017, 08:32:11 PM
Has been for a long time Puckybaby.

Immune to it. It all started in 2006 and Theo. Where is that balax anyway?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on September 01, 2017, 08:44:03 PM
Yeah but you always believed there had to be some kind of plan or method behind it all - even if you couldn't understand it.

Last couple weeks are just totally baffling.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: laoislad on September 01, 2017, 08:57:18 PM
Oxlade-Chamberlain: "We're in good form going into the Man City game after beating Arsenal 4-0 last week."
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on September 01, 2017, 11:54:24 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2017, 08:57:18 PM
Oxlade-Chamberlain: "We're in good form going into the Man City game after beating Arsenal 4-0 last week."

That was a fake quote.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 02, 2017, 07:22:40 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 01, 2017, 11:54:24 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2017, 08:57:18 PM
Oxlade-Chamberlain: "We're in good form going into the Man City game after beating Arsenal 4-0 last week."

That was a fake quote.

From a fake footballer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on September 14, 2017, 09:00:15 PM
The big boys are rocking up the Europa.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: under the bar on September 14, 2017, 09:09:19 PM
Anyone else BT Sport going all glitchy?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on September 14, 2017, 09:10:57 PM
Finally an atmosphere at the Emirates.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on September 14, 2017, 09:18:20 PM
Some noise.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on September 14, 2017, 09:23:38 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 14, 2017, 09:18:20 PM
Some noise.

Not a patch on Anfield on a big European night though
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on September 14, 2017, 10:15:06 PM
Like a GAA game. Fans mixing together.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 14, 2017, 10:20:47 PM
Quote from: Boycey on September 14, 2017, 09:23:38 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 14, 2017, 09:18:20 PM
Some noise.

Not a patch on Anfield on a big European night though

No better place apparently
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: StGallsGAA on September 15, 2017, 08:04:34 AM
Quote from: Boycey on September 14, 2017, 09:23:38 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 14, 2017, 09:18:20 PM
Some noise.

Not a patch on Anfield on a big European night though
That's cos they only make the CL once every 5 years or so! 😀
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on September 18, 2017, 07:45:30 PM
In a season where Kyle Walker is worth £52 million, Sead Kolasinac looks like the biggest steal in world football.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 19, 2017, 12:57:31 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 18, 2017, 07:45:30 PM
In a season where Kyle Walker is worth £52 million, Sead Kolasinac looks like the biggest steal in world football.

He's f*cking great, Luiz couldn't even break his leg.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on October 15, 2017, 11:05:26 AM
Gonna fcuk Red Star Belgrade up big time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on October 15, 2017, 03:52:02 PM
Some craic yeaterfay. Troy f**king Deeney and the lads Arvay it again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 16, 2017, 08:34:14 AM
Still the same cartoon on repeat.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on October 16, 2017, 09:17:56 AM
Deeney really going to town on the Arsenal mentality. Finally, someone with the balls to call it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: StGallsGAA on November 05, 2017, 10:46:06 PM
Commentator on.The radio today suggested that Cech has never saved a penalty in the EPL.   Anyone know how many he's faced and if that stat is true?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on November 05, 2017, 11:13:19 PM
I wouldn't be surprised.

This late Wenger era is just crap.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: trileacman on November 06, 2017, 06:45:12 PM
Can you pinpoint the moment/year  where it went to shite?

I mean Liverpool have been shite for a long time now but it's an entertaining kind of shite, kind like the late late toy show or winning streak.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on November 06, 2017, 07:09:46 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on November 05, 2017, 10:46:06 PM
Commentator on.The radio today suggested that Cech has never saved a penalty in the EPL.   Anyone know how many he's faced and if that stat is true?

13 wirh Arsenal all scored. Not sure on his Chelsea record.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tiempo on November 06, 2017, 10:21:35 PM
Quote from: trileacman on November 06, 2017, 06:45:12 PM
Can you pinpoint the moment/year  where it went to shite?

I mean Liverpool have been shite for a long time now but it's an entertaining kind of shite, kind like the late late toy show or winning streak.

Quite a number of serious miscalculations in succession.

Beat by Utd after 49 game unbeaten run, begins to immediately dismantle that squad, Boro Pimorac his right hand man has said that outright
Let Edu go to Valencia on free, Parlour to Middlesborough for free, strips leadership spine from team replaces with kids, pathetically refuses to give 30 year olds more than 1 year contract extension despite legions of them running the show for AC Milan in that era and Scholes, Giggs, etc. lording the Premiership well into their late 30's
Sol Campbell scores in Champions League Final, next season is playing for Portsmouth
Let Ashley Cole the 1 genuine world class homegrown player to come through the youth in his time go to Chelsea, signs Gallas the French mercenary in return
Gives Gallas the captaincy and Dennis Bergkamps number 10 jersey
Refuses to spend a modest sum on Van Der Sar from Fulham or Shay Given and instead insists on Almunia, a total clown
Signs Silvestre, Squillachi, Flamini for a second time, Nasri, persists with Diaby despite crocked, massively baised towards French players
Persists with Eboue, Clichy, Senderos, Bentdner, etc. despite being truely shocking
Buys Lasanna Diarra - inspired signing, MOTM in his first 3 games, drops him, Diarra calls Wenger out, Wenger sells Diarra in the next transfer window, literally bought in August sold in January
Re-signs Sol Campbell, re-signs Henry, re-signs Lehman, massively sentimental towards them
Sells Van Persie to Utd
Persists with Walcott (who has taken £60m out of the club in wages and sign on fees since he has been there!) but lets Serge Gnabry go
Refuses first buy back option on Fabregas
Lets Ozil and Sanchez contracts run down
Wastes Koscielny's career, a guy that could have been at Real, Barca, etc. by sorrounding him with second rate cannon fodder

Fairly chronological off top of the head. Had potential to win 3 or 4 leagues in last 11/12 years, pissed it away with pure stubbornness, unwillingness to spend, French bias bullshit, ineptitude and in the end he's just well past his sell by date, and you may forget the recent FA Cups, damn lucky to beat Wigan and Hull at Wembley in 2014. Champions League performance a much more accurate barometer of the fuckery he's overseen since the invincibles.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: redhandofgod on November 06, 2017, 10:29:32 PM
Absolutely spot on tiempo
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tiempo on November 06, 2017, 10:43:41 PM
Won the league 3 times playing 4-4-2, but when Barca came along with a formula based on Ronaldinho, Xavi, Iniesta, Alves, Messi, Villa, Neymar, etc. etc. he insisted on 4-3-3, Barca light bullshit with light frame players to match, hasn't played 4-4-2 since 2006, Leicester played it and won the league the other year... unreal antics.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on November 09, 2017, 09:30:45 PM
Quote from: tiempo on November 06, 2017, 10:21:35 PM
Quote from: trileacman on November 06, 2017, 06:45:12 PM
Can you pinpoint the moment/year  where it went to shite?

I mean Liverpool have been shite for a long time now but it's an entertaining kind of shite, kind like the late late toy show or winning streak.

Quite a number of serious miscalculations in succession.

Beat by Utd after 49 game unbeaten run, begins to immediately dismantle that squad, Boro Pimorac his right hand man has said that outright
Let Edu go to Valencia on free, Parlour to Middlesborough for free, strips leadership spine from team replaces with kids, pathetically refuses to give 30 year olds more than 1 year contract extension despite legions of them running the show for AC Milan in that era and Scholes, Giggs, etc. lording the Premiership well into their late 30's
Sol Campbell scores in Champions League Final, next season is playing for Portsmouth
Let Ashley Cole the 1 genuine world class homegrown player to come through the youth in his time go to Chelsea, signs Gallas the French mercenary in return
Gives Gallas the captaincy and Dennis Bergkamps number 10 jersey
Refuses to spend a modest sum on Van Der Sar from Fulham or Shay Given and instead insists on Almunia, a total clown
Signs Silvestre, Squillachi, Flamini for a second time, Nasri, persists with Diaby despite crocked, massively baised towards French players
Persists with Eboue, Clichy, Senderos, Bentdner, etc. despite being truely shocking
Buys Lasanna Diarra - inspired signing, MOTM in his first 3 games, drops him, Diarra calls Wenger out, Wenger sells Diarra in the next transfer window, literally bought in August sold in January
Re-signs Sol Campbell, re-signs Henry, re-signs Lehman, massively sentimental towards them
Sells Van Persie to Utd
Persists with Walcott (who has taken £60m out of the club in wages and sign on fees since he has been there!) but lets Serge Gnabry go
Refuses first buy back option on Fabregas
Lets Ozil and Sanchez contracts run down
Wastes Koscielny's career, a guy that could have been at Real, Barca, etc. by sorrounding him with second rate cannon fodder

Fairly chronological off top of the head. Had potential to win 3 or 4 leagues in last 11/12 years, pissed it away with pure stubbornness, unwillingness to spend, French bias bullshit, ineptitude and in the end he's just well past his sell by date, and you may forget the recent FA Cups, damn lucky to beat Wigan and Hull at Wembley in 2014. Champions League performance a much more accurate barometer of the fuckery he's overseen since the invincibles.

Haha! That's about right! Dein leaving around 2007 seemed to have an impact too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on November 09, 2017, 09:34:45 PM
Is it he's biased towards French players as much as he's both got a great scouting system in France and London is very appealing for French players?

I can think of more hits than misses when it comes to his French buys. Even this season Laca looks well worth the money, and it would be hard to make the case that LK was a bad buy either. Giroud for what they paid for him and continue to pay him is good, even if he will never be the next Ibra.

Lemar is a class player too and he wasn't making much of a misstep gonig after him either.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on November 19, 2017, 08:07:21 PM
It's always nice beating Spuds.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 02, 2017, 06:21:27 PM
All Arsenal in the last 30 minutes of that half and have somehow not scored.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: StGallsGAA on December 02, 2017, 07:42:39 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 02, 2017, 06:21:27 PM
All Arsenal in the last 30 minutes of that half and have somehow not scored.
Because that's what you get when you spend the money on the world's best keeper instead of going for a Chelsea reserve player on a free transfer.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 02, 2017, 07:49:35 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on December 02, 2017, 07:42:39 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 02, 2017, 06:21:27 PM
All Arsenal in the last 30 minutes of that half and have somehow not scored.
Because that's what you get when you spend the money on the world's best keeper instead of going for a Chelsea reserve player on a free transfer.

Manchester City will score 3 or 4 goals next weekend in the Derby if given the same amount of shots on target.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 02, 2017, 07:50:18 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on December 02, 2017, 07:42:39 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 02, 2017, 06:21:27 PM
All Arsenal in the last 30 minutes of that half and have somehow not scored.
Because that's what you get when you spend the money on the world's best keeper instead of going for a Chelsea reserve player on a free transfer.
£10 million
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on December 02, 2017, 07:56:40 PM
Careful you don't put out your back reaching for that joke, StGall.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: StGallsGAA on December 02, 2017, 09:18:18 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 02, 2017, 07:50:18 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on December 02, 2017, 07:42:39 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 02, 2017, 06:21:27 PM
All Arsenal in the last 30 minutes of that half and have somehow not scored.
Because that's what you get when you spend the money on the world's best keeper instead of going for a Chelsea reserve player on a free transfer.
£10 million

You paid £10M for a keeper not right in the head?  Get to fcuk?!?! Seriously??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: lenny on December 02, 2017, 09:26:16 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on December 02, 2017, 09:18:18 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 02, 2017, 07:50:18 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on December 02, 2017, 07:42:39 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 02, 2017, 06:21:27 PM
All Arsenal in the last 30 minutes of that half and have somehow not scored.
Because that's what you get when you spend the money on the world's best keeper instead of going for a Chelsea reserve player on a free transfer.
£10 million

You paid £10M for a keeper not right in the head?  Get to fcuk?!?! Seriously??

Not a fan of either side but arsenal were the better team. United defended very well though and hit on the break. Arsenal should've been at least level at half time. De gea was top quality.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Two Hands FFS on December 02, 2017, 10:03:37 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on December 02, 2017, 09:18:18 PM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on December 02, 2017, 07:50:18 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on December 02, 2017, 07:42:39 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 02, 2017, 06:21:27 PM
All Arsenal in the last 30 minutes of that half and have somehow not scored.
Because that's what you get when you spend the money on the world's best keeper instead of going for a Chelsea reserve player on a free transfer.
£10 million

You paid £10M for a keeper not right in the head?  Get to fcuk?!?! Seriously??
I paid £10 million? No, but Arsenal did.
And I dont support Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Over the Bar on December 02, 2017, 11:39:49 PM
Apparently the wives of Mustafi, Koscielny and Bellerin are suing for adultery after seeing them being rode by Pogba, Martial and Lingard today!   ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: gawa316 on December 03, 2017, 06:23:39 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on December 02, 2017, 11:39:49 PM
Apparently the wives of Mustafi, Koscielny and Bellerin are suing for adultery after seeing them being rode by Pogba, Martial and Lingard today!   ;D

Lukaku just having a w**k then?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on December 03, 2017, 09:56:06 PM
Badly need Theo starting.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on December 23, 2017, 09:44:57 AM
What a clusterfcuk that was. 5 mins of good football. The rest shite. Why Liverpool didn't hammer them is an indication of how crap they are too.

Wenger is in coo coo land territory now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 23, 2017, 12:45:28 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 23, 2017, 09:44:57 AM
What a clusterfcuk that was. 5 mins of good football. The rest shite. Why Liverpool didn't hammer them is an indication of how crap they are too.

Wenger is in coo coo land territory now.

?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on December 23, 2017, 01:20:40 PM
In an age where there are three hyper powers in English football it's still mad to me that a lot of Arsenal fans are so deluded as to how good a job Wenger has done, even in the later years, keeping Arsenal at the top table.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on December 23, 2017, 07:23:41 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 23, 2017, 12:45:28 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 23, 2017, 09:44:57 AM
What a clusterfcuk that was. 5 mins of good football. The rest shite. Why Liverpool didn't hammer them is an indication of how crap they are too.

Wenger is in coo coo land territory now.

?

Sorry. Went a bit mad there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on January 02, 2018, 05:51:41 PM
Anyone else scared?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on January 02, 2018, 06:06:01 PM
If he's not staying for the long haul, ship him out. Workrate has been better over the holidays but Jim Beglin commented during the WBA game that of the arsenal outfield players this season - Sanchez has run the least. Some flip flop on his earlier effort.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on January 02, 2018, 06:15:13 PM
Anyway, what's to be scared of? Abject failure?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on January 02, 2018, 06:16:16 PM
Scared about Chelsea I am.

Saw a stat today about how many chances Arsenal are creating against crap teams. It's miserable.

Arsenal have faced Southampton, West Ham, Newcastle, Liverpool, Crystal Palace, and West Brom in their last seven matches. Arsenal have scored 8 goals and have created just 7 big chances in those matches. An average of about 1 each per game. Liverpool have had a fairly similar fixtures list and have played Brighton, Everton, West Brom, Bournemouth, Arsenal, Swansea, and Leicester. In those matches, Liverpool have scored 20 goals and created 25 big chances. What's that, 3 times as many as Arsenal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on January 02, 2018, 07:48:34 PM
It's turned into Louis VanGaal rubbish.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on January 02, 2018, 09:50:53 PM
Makes no sense with attacking players like Alexis, Lacazette, Ozil, Wilshere and even Welbeck and Iwobi. System is shit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on January 02, 2018, 10:08:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 02, 2018, 09:50:53 PM
Makes no sense with attacking players like Alexis, Lacazette, Ozil, Wilshere and even Welbeck and Iwobi. System is shit.

Manager doesn't coach players. Given too much freedom so don't really know what they're at.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on January 02, 2018, 11:09:16 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 02, 2018, 10:08:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 02, 2018, 09:50:53 PM
Makes no sense with attacking players like Alexis, Lacazette, Ozil, Wilshere and even Welbeck and Iwobi. System is shit.

Manager doesn't coach players. Given too much freedom so don't really know what they're at.

They're a game off the top four in January - it's a bit early for the usual woe is me stuff. The 'Wenger doesn't coach' angle is so rite and overused at this stage it's a cliche masquerading as analysis.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on January 02, 2018, 11:19:00 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 02, 2018, 10:08:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 02, 2018, 09:50:53 PM
Makes no sense with attacking players like Alexis, Lacazette, Ozil, Wilshere and even Welbeck and Iwobi. System is shit.

Manager doesn't coach players. Given too much freedom so don't really know what they're at.

Looks like that. And a good performance is a danger....puffed chests and a slap next game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on January 02, 2018, 11:27:31 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 02, 2018, 11:09:16 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 02, 2018, 10:08:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 02, 2018, 09:50:53 PM
Makes no sense with attacking players like Alexis, Lacazette, Ozil, Wilshere and even Welbeck and Iwobi. System is shit.

Manager doesn't coach players. Given too much freedom so don't really know what they're at.

They're a game off the top four in January - it's a bit early for the usual woe is me stuff. The 'Wenger doesn't coach' angle is so rite and overused at this stage it's a cliche masquerading as analysis.

Jack Wilshere said last year when at Bournemouth that be couldn't believe how much better training was. Video analysis of session for a start to help players identity areas to improve. Wenger record with injuries is terrible. Kos getting injections to play games. Use the squad. Arsenal are essentially gone back to Arsenal early 80s and later Graham years, a cup team and average league team.

On another note the Doc 89 is a great watch.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 03, 2018, 04:13:25 AM
Video analysis of training sessions is to improve coaches not players, that's where match analysis comes in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on January 03, 2018, 09:49:28 PM
Well, Room for optimism? Wilshire, Maitlin Niles, and we can always play Mustafi and Hector up top when Sanchez and Ozil go.

Pessimism? Entire Defence - Penalty was soft, but still a PK. Bellerin has been rash a few times in the box this year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on January 03, 2018, 09:55:36 PM
At least they had a go. Wilshere, fit, is a player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: oliverkelly on January 04, 2018, 02:16:44 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on January 03, 2018, 09:49:28 PM
Well, Room for optimism? Wilshire, Maitlin Niles, and we can always play Mustafi and Hector up top when Sanchez and Ozil go.

Pessimism? Entire Defence - Penalty was soft, but still a PK. Bellerin has been rash a few times in the box this year.

As a neutral it was never a peno for me. Went down way to easy to minimum contact. If ref gives peno there Maitland -Niles gets one in first half for small contact between him and Moses before he tripped himself
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 04, 2018, 03:18:34 PM
The new manager whenever he arrives will probably sort out the defence. I would keep Ozil if I had a choice.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on January 04, 2018, 03:20:50 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 04, 2018, 03:18:34 PM
The new manager whenever he arrives will probably sort out the defence. I would keep Ozil if I had a choice.

You might be waiting a while.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 04, 2018, 03:36:38 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 17, 2014, 08:13:15 AM
Quote from: Asal Mor on April 17, 2014, 06:52:20 AM
Arsenal odds on for 4th now. I imagine there'd be no question of Wenger being sacked if Arsenal were to finish 4th and win the cup final.

Wenger hasn't signed a new contract, most Gooners respect and expect Wenger to go on his own terms. A 4th place finish would symbolise his management of the migration from Highbury to Ashburton and a FA Cup would be a hat-tip to more successful times.

Both would lay a nice foundation for a new manager to come in, UCL football, a trophy winning squad and probably enough cash for a marquee signing plus a couple of more better than what's already there players.

The timing is right....

Well I am awaiting three and a 1/2 years so I can hang on for another 3 maybe 4 years. Arsenal never do things in a rush. Proper old school English they are.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: From the Bunker on January 07, 2018, 09:42:03 PM
League Cup will hold more significance now! But with the likelihood of having to beat Chelsea and Man City to win it, It's a tough ask. The Europa League has less sides of quality, but there are a sh1tload of games and travelling to navigate.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on January 13, 2018, 04:58:44 PM
If Wenger actually gets Martial for Sánchez + cash will the lads in the cheap seats still be chanting he doesn't know what he's doing?

If Mour is bringing in Sánchez it is further evidence to Martial that his already limited minutes will be curtailed further and hence moving to a club where he will take over a leading role isn't going to be a hard sell, let alone with the French influence already present at Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: gawa316 on January 13, 2018, 06:24:54 PM
Theo on his way?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on January 13, 2018, 10:30:05 PM
Fcukin hope so.

He epitomises the Wenger demise.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on January 14, 2018, 11:22:39 AM
No Sanchez in the squad. That's him then.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on January 14, 2018, 03:21:24 PM
This is just sad to watch now. Time for the black screens and the gun.

Not much more to be said.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on January 14, 2018, 04:05:48 PM
The manager needs to go. Board too weak.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 14, 2018, 05:36:56 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 14, 2018, 04:05:48 PM
The manager needs to go. Board too weak.

Too strong you mean, a weak board responds to fans and public opinion.

We're are all watching Wenger's fear of retirement sucking the hope out of fans, and without hope this is what you get..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on January 14, 2018, 05:38:21 PM
This idea that the sky is always about to cave in is mad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: StGallsGAA on January 14, 2018, 05:58:49 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 14, 2018, 05:36:56 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 14, 2018, 04:05:48 PM
The manager needs to go. Board too weak.

Too strong you mean, a weak board responds to fans and public opinion.

We're are all watching Wenger's fear of retirement sucking the hope out of fans, and without hope this is what you get..

AW is like Han Solo.  Soon his prodigy Kylo Ren in the form of Arteta will slay him...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on January 14, 2018, 06:00:25 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on January 14, 2018, 05:58:49 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 14, 2018, 05:36:56 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 14, 2018, 04:05:48 PM
The manager needs to go. Board too weak.

Too strong you mean, a weak board responds to fans and public opinion.

We're are all watching Wenger's fear of retirement sucking the hope out of fans, and without hope this is what you get..

AW is like Han Solo.  Soon his prodigy Kylo Ren in the form of Arteta will slay him...

Kylo Ren is Han Solo's son.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: StGallsGAA on January 14, 2018, 09:12:56 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 14, 2018, 06:00:25 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on January 14, 2018, 05:58:49 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 14, 2018, 05:36:56 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 14, 2018, 04:05:48 PM
The manager needs to go. Board too weak.

Too strong you mean, a weak board responds to fans and public opinion.

We're are all watching Wenger's fear of retirement sucking the hope out of fans, and without hope this is what you get..

AW is like Han Solo.  Soon his prodigy Kylo Ren in the form of Arteta will slay him...

Kylo Ren is Han Solo's son.
Thanks for that insight Einstein.  Does the word metaphor mean anything?? ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on January 14, 2018, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on January 14, 2018, 09:12:56 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 14, 2018, 06:00:25 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on January 14, 2018, 05:58:49 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 14, 2018, 05:36:56 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 14, 2018, 04:05:48 PM
The manager needs to go. Board too weak.

Too strong you mean, a weak board responds to fans and public opinion.

We're are all watching Wenger's fear of retirement sucking the hope out of fans, and without hope this is what you get..

AW is like Han Solo.  Soon his prodigy Kylo Ren in the form of Arteta will slay him...

Kylo Ren is Han Solo's son.
Thanks for that insight Einstein.  Does the word metaphor mean anything?? ::)

Luke was Ren's 'mentor' so it doesn't make any sense as a metaphor either.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tiempo on January 14, 2018, 09:51:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 14, 2018, 03:21:24 PM
This is just sad to watch now. Time for the black screens and the gun.

Not much more to be said.

As an Arsenal fan I don't agree, its not sad to watch its glorious.

All you can ask for in life is that you get what you deserve (abject concept I know) and right now the management and senior players are gettting just that, absolutely rinsed for abject failure, they're on the ropes.

Don't expect anything to change soon after all why do yourself out of a multimillion pound wage, be plenty stealing a living for a while yet.

Fair play the canny men who got the Bournemouth/Liverpool double today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on January 16, 2018, 08:05:58 PM
How good is the Mickey Tarian lad?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: StGallsGAA on January 16, 2018, 11:26:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 14, 2018, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on January 14, 2018, 09:12:56 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 14, 2018, 06:00:25 PM
Quote from: StGallsGAA on January 14, 2018, 05:58:49 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on January 14, 2018, 05:36:56 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 14, 2018, 04:05:48 PM
The manager needs to go. Board too weak.

Too strong you mean, a weak board responds to fans and public opinion.

We're are all watching Wenger's fear of retirement sucking the hope out of fans, and without hope this is what you get..

AW is like Han Solo.  Soon his prodigy Kylo Ren in the form of Arteta will slay him...

Kylo Ren is Han Solo's son.
Thanks for that insight Einstein.  Does the word metaphor mean anything?? ::)

Luke was Ren's 'mentor' so it doesn't make any sense as a metaphor either.
Ok, the bumbling Pat Rice or Steve Bould can be Luke if you like.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on January 21, 2018, 12:49:28 AM
Back in the title race?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on January 21, 2018, 08:37:47 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 16, 2018, 08:05:58 PM
How good is the Mickey Tarian lad?

He's a good player. Didn't suit Utd probably cause of style they play. If they can link him up with Aubameyang could do well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 24, 2018, 09:53:38 PM
Good win for Arsenal I hope they go on and win the league cup now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on January 24, 2018, 09:55:47 PM
In the 2 post-Alexis matches a few players have stood up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on January 24, 2018, 10:06:13 PM
Monreal has being some signing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on January 28, 2018, 11:30:27 PM
Looks like Aubameyang is arriving. Some signing. This has being a great transfer window.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on January 29, 2018, 12:58:34 AM
He may not have much sell-on value but he's a bargain at that price for a proven goal-scorer. Wenger has done some decent business the last two windows.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on January 29, 2018, 01:57:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 29, 2018, 12:58:34 AM
He may not have much sell-on vallue but he's a bargain at that price for a proven goal-scorer. Wenger has done some decent business the last two windows.

Really?

The key needs for this Arsenal team have been, as they have for the past 5 years, if not more: a Defensive Midfielder and at least 1 proven, ready to contribute Centre Half.

In the past 2 transfer windows....Wenger has bought...... neither.

Instead he has aquired (assuming Aubameyang comes) 3 forwards, a centre half who he was going to send back out on loan and a left back who he got on a free transfer..and now doesn't start.

Across the EPL, CL and the 2 Cups.......Lacazette has scored 9 goals this season. Batshuayi has scored 10...that's a fella who barely gets a game at Chelsea. Is Lacazette really such good business at over £45million?

Now selling Sanchez for 60million would have been very good business.

Swapping him for a player who was a failure at Man Utd is a total gamble (although hopefully he follows the De Bruyne path to redemption)

Placating the fans with a few big name forwards doesn't mask the fact that Wenger simply doesn't sort out the areas that need fixing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on January 29, 2018, 07:25:30 PM
Looks like Giroud might be of to Chelsea.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on January 29, 2018, 07:29:13 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 29, 2018, 07:25:30 PM
Looks like Giroud might be of to Chelsea.

Conte needs to go to a fûcking basketball game if he wants to find a tall lad, it seems to be the only criteria he's had for a player this month.

Chelsea seem like a club on fire behind the scenes.

David Luiz is hit and miss but a straight swap for Giroud would be yet another piece of good business from Arsenal. He can't help but improve Arsenal defensively. Actually he's a player who would be best suited as a CDM rather than as a CB so he has multiple uses.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on January 29, 2018, 10:39:41 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on January 29, 2018, 02:11:20 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on January 29, 2018, 01:57:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on January 29, 2018, 12:58:34 AM
He may not have much sell-on vallue but he's a bargain at that price for a proven goal-scorer. Wenger has done some decent business the last two windows.

Really?

The key needs for this Arsenal team have been, as they have for the past 5 years, if not more: a Defensive Midfielder and at least 1 proven, ready to contribute Centre Half.

In the past 2 transfer windows....Wenger has bought...... neither.

Instead he has aquired (assuming Aubameyang comes) 3 forwards, a centre half who he was going to send back out on loan and a left back who he got on a free transfer..and now doesn't start.

Across the EPL, CL and the 2 Cups.......Lacazette has scored 9 goals this season. Batshuayi has scored 10...that's a fella who barely gets a game at Chelsea. Is Lacazette really such good business at over £45million?

Now selling Sanchez for 60million would have been very good business.

Swapping him for a player who was a failure at Man Utd is a total gamble (although hopefully he follows the De Bruyne path to redemption)

Placating the fans with a few big name forwards doesn't mask the fact that Wenger simply doesn't sort out the areas that need fixing.

in your opinion, like wtf have you managed at that level to suggest your opinion matters wan fcuk

Ah yr right, sure what was I thinking offering an opinion on, of all things, a discussion board.

Opinions on Arsenal should of course be limited to those who have managed in the EPL.

And only people who have managed county teams should comment on the championship.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 31, 2018, 12:34:12 PM
I have a feeling Wenger is moving on at the end of the season.

Aubameyang and Mkhitaryan don't feel like Wenger signings. Seems to be a general apathy around the squad which reminds of Man United and when Ferguson announced his first retirement.

I liked Walcott as a person but to me he epitomised what Arsenal have become, a good face but no substance when it mattered glad to see him gone.

Sanchez was an enigma, pretty damn good most of the time but some man to give away cheap possession yet seemed aware of this when his team mates did it either through berating them or just his bad body language. Suspect he was more of a drainer than a energiser around the dressing room.

Giroud 32, handsome bastard but there was always a doubt around that he couldn't shift. Great option off the bench either chasing a game or to close one out, master of the near post headed clearance. If he goes he'll be missed but the right option for him and club.

In the meantime the League Cup and EL will provide plenty of interest but won't be getting overly excited until the new manager arrives.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on January 31, 2018, 12:47:04 PM
I see nothing to suggest Wenger is going. The last two purchases have a lot to do with the BVB scout they brought in, in the end football is as much about happenstance when it comes to signing top players like Aub as anything else. If you have a chance to get a player of his quality you always take it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on January 31, 2018, 12:57:23 PM
Ozil signing new deal is huge. Arsenal still on look out for CB today. GK has being given priority for summer. New staff seems to have kicked of a huge change.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on January 31, 2018, 01:08:26 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 31, 2018, 12:57:23 PM
Ozil signing new deal is huge. Arsenal still on look out for CB today. GK has being given priority for summer. New staff seems to have kicked of a huge change.

I'm still shocked at Ozil signing. Can miki play the role Cazorla played? He's been a massive loss, although Wilshere might fit in there if he stays fit.

Ancelotti still my choice to replace Wenger.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 03, 2018, 10:23:13 AM
Arsenal 6 Everton 4
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 22, 2018, 08:49:34 PM
Tremendous stuff.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on February 22, 2018, 09:19:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 22, 2018, 08:49:34 PM
Tremendous stuff.

Just when you think you have seen it all.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: From the Bunker on February 22, 2018, 09:57:39 PM
Job done......Now the Cup final on Sunday!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on February 22, 2018, 10:05:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 22, 2018, 08:49:34 PM
Tremendous stuff.

I didn't know there were lower rungs on the ladder
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 22, 2018, 10:08:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 22, 2018, 08:49:34 PM
Tremendous stuff.
All worked out well in the end.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 22, 2018, 10:44:00 PM
It's my annual Wenger Out! post.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 22, 2018, 11:05:53 PM
Roy Keane battered them on ITV. He just called Wilshere "the most over-rated player on the planet!"  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: screenexile on February 25, 2018, 09:38:11 PM
Just saw Wenger's Press Conference... did anyone else think the 2nd goal was offside?

Sane didn't affect anything from what I can see.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on February 25, 2018, 09:48:33 PM
There are no tactics or game plan. Just hoofing it up to Aubameyang. Players don't want to play for him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tiempo on February 25, 2018, 09:59:59 PM
Quote from: screenexile on February 25, 2018, 09:38:11 PM
Just saw Wenger's Press Conference... did anyone else think the 2nd goal was offside?

Sane didn't affect anything from what I can see.

They got absolutley smoked at the Etihad in the league and yes City got a goal that was offside but Wenger used it to claim it was an even game and the ref cost them. The guy is deluded.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 25, 2018, 10:06:15 PM
What does it take?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 25, 2018, 11:34:15 PM
Why a player of any use would join Arsenal is a mystery. Wenger doesn't improve you.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on February 25, 2018, 11:43:53 PM
Tell that to Sanchez who got a contract worth about 500k a week from his internship in North London..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ziggy90 on February 26, 2018, 06:37:21 AM
Quote from: Syferus on February 25, 2018, 11:43:53 PM
Tell that to Sanchez who got a contract worth about 500k a week from his internship in North London..

He's shit.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 26, 2018, 12:12:44 PM
Who won?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 26, 2018, 09:17:15 PM
Arsenal 5-2. A real gutsy display with Mustafi a general at the back. 3 great assists by Iwobi and Xhaka bossed midfield. Welbeck was on fire and scored a 13-minute hat trick, his last an overhead kick.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on February 26, 2018, 09:17:54 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on February 22, 2018, 10:05:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 22, 2018, 08:49:34 PM
Tremendous stuff.

I didn't know there were lower rungs on the ladder

I was wrong.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: under the bar on February 26, 2018, 09:39:42 PM
Quote from: tiempo on February 25, 2018, 09:59:59 PM
Quote from: screenexile on February 25, 2018, 09:38:11 PM
Just saw Wenger's Press Conference... did anyone else think the 2nd goal was offside?

Sane didn't affect anything from what I can see.

They got absolutley smoked at the Etihad in the league and yes City got a goal that was offside but Wenger used it to claim it was an even game and the ref cost them. The guy is deluded.

Big chance for revenge on Thursday night.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 27, 2018, 12:08:50 AM
There is something in that. The amount of criticism is monumental and deserved right now. If they lose on Thursday that is expected. But lose bursting a gut. Surely they will act as professionals. Unfortunately, as Gooners have known for a while, Arsene can't inspire that type of approach.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: stew on February 27, 2018, 12:19:43 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 27, 2018, 12:08:50 AM
There is something in that. The amount of criticism is monumental and deserved right now. If they lose on Thursday that is expected. But lose bursting a gut. Surely they will act as professionals. Unfortunately, as Gooners have known for a while, Arsene can't inspire that type of approach.

I used to admire the hell out of this man, he was a tremendous coach in his day, a visionary both on the field and in the business aspect of the game, what happened?

He should have left about 5 years ago, all he is doing now is selfishly hurting the club he loves in a vain attempt to relive past glories that are not coming back under his leadership, or lack therof.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on February 27, 2018, 12:35:52 AM
I dunno stew. Although he inherited the guts of a decent team initially in the back 4 and Bergkamp, his Invincible achievement was all him in 2004. I can't get his ownership of the club based on those successes. He is ruining decent footballers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: gawa316 on February 27, 2018, 12:43:16 AM
Surely the aubameyang money would've been spent better elsewhere?

They already had Lacazette and Giroud up there and I don't see Wenger playing both Lacazette and aubameyang up top at the same time
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on February 27, 2018, 01:08:06 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on February 27, 2018, 12:43:16 AM
Surely the aubameyang money would've been spent better elsewhere?

They already had Lacazette and Giroud up there and I don't see Wenger playing both Lacazette and aubameyang up top at the same time

Giroud is a lame horse compared to PEA.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: screenexile on February 27, 2018, 09:51:44 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/5iDoduia8lfry/giphy.gif)

Character!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 27, 2018, 10:08:47 AM
Quote from: screenexile on February 27, 2018, 09:51:44 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/5iDoduia8lfry/giphy.gif)

Character!!

I would cry. Literally cry, the David Brent of football.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tyroneman on February 27, 2018, 10:58:17 AM
It was interesting listening to ShoutSport this moring on the drive to work. Much was being made of Wengers myopia when it has come to buying DM players, especially after having had great results with Petit and Silva playing that role so well.

The usual suspects were defending Wenger saying the players just are not out there, but that's patently bullsh*t. Kante was the obvious miss, especially given he was another one Wenger 'supposedly' had been scouting, but there are plenty of options available and at a range of prices.

If he was prepared to spend £35mill on Xhaka, who doesn't seem to be actually good at any MF role, then he could easily have bought a top class DM instead.

Equally the £50+million spent on PEA could have been repurposed more effectively.

Hopefully the Dortmund magic will start to pay dividends in the trasnfer market,  but there is little point bringing in good players if they are not being coached or utilised effectively.

Wenger's time is up, someone with modern tactical nous and an ability to improve players is needed. Someone with a ruthless streak who won't keep giving 5/10 footballers chance after chance after chance.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 27, 2018, 11:01:22 AM
QuoteThe usual suspects were defending Wenger saying the players just are not out there

Who were these, it's indefensible, every Arsenal fan I know loves Wenger but like an old faithful dog who is in an awful lot of pain, they know needs to be put down.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: screenexile on February 27, 2018, 11:20:25 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 27, 2018, 10:08:47 AM
Quote from: screenexile on February 27, 2018, 09:51:44 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/5iDoduia8lfry/giphy.gif)

Character!!

I would cry. Literally cry, the David Brent of football.

Jaysus don't be saying that in the Celtic thread anyway... you can't be slagging off Brodge or Brooney!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ziggy90 on February 27, 2018, 12:55:19 PM
Happy Obefemi Martin's Day Gooners.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=T_L4WN0PzeY
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Main Street on February 27, 2018, 01:15:54 PM
Arsene's last 4 full seasons, purportedly disastrous, if taken separately would still rank up there not too far behind the best 4 seasons Arsenal have experienced in the 50 years before Arsense came to Arsenal.
And all that achieved with his (declining) managerial guile coming under minute scrutiny, facing ceaseless critical questioning, wave upon wave of hysteria, condescension, and to cap it off  -  the humiliation of the A4 size protest notices.




Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 27, 2018, 01:29:02 PM
In those 50 years Arsenal won 5 League Titles, 4 FA Cups, UEFA Cup and a Cup Winners Cup.

It's not just about winning trophies though, it's the terminal decline in a once great man, who doesn't see it himself, Arsenal fan's don't want him to taint his legacy we want him to go with head held high. Knowing when to say goodbye can be the hardest thing, that time has arrived.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: gawa316 on February 27, 2018, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 27, 2018, 01:08:06 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on February 27, 2018, 12:43:16 AM
Surely the aubameyang money would've been spent better elsewhere?

They already had Lacazette and Giroud up there and I don't see Wenger playing both Lacazette and aubameyang up top at the same time

Giroud is a lame horse compared to PEA.

So you think they made the best possible use of that money?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on February 27, 2018, 04:24:45 PM
Ozil rang in sick last week. Club doctor called to his house. He was actually in Turkey. Would not be tolerated by any other club.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on February 27, 2018, 04:42:03 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on February 27, 2018, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 27, 2018, 01:08:06 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on February 27, 2018, 12:43:16 AM
Surely the aubameyang money would've been spent better elsewhere?

They already had Lacazette and Giroud up there and I don't see Wenger playing both Lacazette and aubameyang up top at the same time

Giroud is a lame horse compared to PEA.

So you think they made the best possible use of that money?

I 100% think you sign a player like PEA when you have the chance. At that money in the current market it's comically good value. Strikers are the most valuable players for a reason.

And it isn't a situation where not getting PEA meant a deal for a defender was magically on either, deals only work like that in supporters' heads.

Özil under a new contract, Lac, PEA and Miki is a quality front four to build on and a good bit away from the doom and gloom about this team breaking apart at the start of the season.

They need to get very serious about the Europa now and take a leaf from Jose's book. Shut out all the usual external noise.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: thewobbler on February 27, 2018, 05:23:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 27, 2018, 04:42:03 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on February 27, 2018, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 27, 2018, 01:08:06 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on February 27, 2018, 12:43:16 AM
Surely the aubameyang money would've been spent better elsewhere?

They already had Lacazette and Giroud up there and I don't see Wenger playing both Lacazette and aubameyang up top at the same time

Giroud is a lame horse compared to PEA.

So you think they made the best possible use of that money?

I 100% think you sign a player like PEA when you have the chance. At that money in the current market it's comically good value. Strikers are the most valuable players for a reason.

And it isn't a situation where not getting PEA meant a deal for a defender was magically on either, deals only work like that in supporters' heads.

Özil under a new contract, Lac, PEA and Miki is a quality front four to build on and a good bit away from the doom and gloom about this team breaking apart at the start of the season.

They need to get very serious about the Europa now and take a leaf from Jose's book. Shut out all the usual external noise.

Comically good value?

f**k me.

Aubeyamang plays off the last shoulder.

He's an effective forward in the right system, where he's released from any build up duties or hold up duties, and can concentrate solely on getting on the end of passes.

But the style Arsenal play means they can't afford a passenger up front. They need a footballing no.9 who can play triangles, give and go, exchange positions, and come from deeper. It's been that way throughout Wenger's tenure - it's "Arsenal football" - so why spend £60m-odd for a player who doesn't fit that system?

What's comical is that football fans - who complain endlessly about hefty ticket prices, and are abandoning Sky in their droves for free streaming - are happily behind "their" club when spending comically absurd amounts of money on comically unsuitable players.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on February 27, 2018, 05:54:14 PM
Your post is going to age as well as those decrying Sanchez as a luxury purchase when he was brought in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: thewobbler on February 27, 2018, 06:17:23 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 27, 2018, 05:54:14 PM
Your post is going to age as well as those decrying Sanchez as a luxury purchase when he was brought in.
You're suffering from transfer fee blindness.

Arsenal's too 10 record signings list also includes Lacazette, Xhaka, Mustafi, Chambers, Welbeck and Reyes. You should really know better by now.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on February 27, 2018, 07:39:20 PM
When Wenger decided to buy Xhaka instead of Kante he should have been fired on the spot.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: TabClear on February 28, 2018, 12:28:59 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 27, 2018, 06:17:23 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 27, 2018, 05:54:14 PM
Your post is going to age as well as those decrying Sanchez as a luxury purchase when he was brought in.
You're suffering from transfer fee blindness.

Arsenal's too 10 record signings list also includes Lacazette, Xhaka, Mustafi, Chambers, Welbeck and Reyes. You should really know better by now.

Took a quick look at this and none of the Top Teams transfer records are particularly Stellar. In the top 15 record transfers for each club

Chelsea-Batshuyia, Bakayoko, Torres, Shevchenko
Liverpool-Carroll, Benteke, Lovren, Markovic, Keane
Utd-Di Maria, Schnederlin, Herrera, Shaw, Mkhitaryan, Veron
City-Robinho, Bony
Spurs-Soldado, Rebrov, Bentley, Jansenn, bent

City is distorted because so many of their players have been bought in the last 2-3 years but there are some who could end up being flops and I have not included the likes of Morata, Pogba etc who are not flops but have not justified their fees as of yet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: thewobbler on February 28, 2018, 06:33:53 PM
Agreed TabClear.

Most of those were signed as the "missing piece", and more than a few of them would fall into the same category as I'm early-calling Aubeymang; clearly having something to offer, but not right for the style of play of the club.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 01, 2018, 07:43:17 PM
Right Gunners - let's see what yer made of.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on March 01, 2018, 08:10:30 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 01, 2018, 07:43:17 PM
Right Gunners - let's see what yer made of.

Holes. And Arseholes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: From the Bunker on March 01, 2018, 08:10:55 PM
Good turnout!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: laoislad on March 01, 2018, 08:21:58 PM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on March 01, 2018, 08:33:58 PM
Midfield and Back 4 could turn around and try and score in their own goal and City would beat them to it.

Beckham needs to come out of that dressing room with stiches in his eyebrow.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on March 01, 2018, 09:32:12 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on March 01, 2018, 08:33:58 PM
Midfield and Back 4 could turn around and try and score in their own goal and City would beat them to it.

Beckham needs to come out of that dressing room with stiches in his eyebrow.

Being a petulant tît and throwing a boot at one of your player isn't management.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 01, 2018, 09:38:10 PM
Excellent second half. If Arsenal can build on that 45 minute performance then anything is possible. Also, need Theo back asap. Inspiring stuff.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on March 01, 2018, 10:01:39 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 01, 2018, 09:32:12 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on March 01, 2018, 08:33:58 PM
Midfield and Back 4 could turn around and try and score in their own goal and City would beat them to it.

Beckham needs to come out of that dressing room with stiches in his eyebrow.

Being a petulant tît and throwing a boot at one of your player isn't management.

Is that your own opinion, or did you have to google the subject matter?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on March 01, 2018, 10:35:00 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on March 01, 2018, 10:01:39 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 01, 2018, 09:32:12 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on March 01, 2018, 08:33:58 PM
Midfield and Back 4 could turn around and try and score in their own goal and City would beat them to it.

Beckham needs to come out of that dressing room with stiches in his eyebrow.

Being a petulant tît and throwing a boot at one of your player isn't management.

Is that your own opinion, or did you have to google the subject matter?

What?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: From the Bunker on March 02, 2018, 01:41:48 AM
Wenger should have walked away after one of the last two FA Cups!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 02, 2018, 10:22:08 AM
He didn't because he has astonishing arrogance.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on March 02, 2018, 03:36:45 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 02, 2018, 10:22:08 AM
He didn't because he has astonishing arrogance.

I'd like to see you walk away from your high paying job just because a few yokes with scarves and a web cam are angry at you.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 02, 2018, 04:17:19 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 02, 2018, 03:36:45 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 02, 2018, 10:22:08 AM
He didn't because he has astonishing arrogance.

I'd like to see you walk away from your high paying job just because a few yokes with scarves and a web cam are angry at you.

A few yokes. I'd say a good 60-70% of fans want him to leave. Thats a fair few million people around the world.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on March 02, 2018, 04:20:48 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on March 02, 2018, 04:17:19 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 02, 2018, 03:36:45 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 02, 2018, 10:22:08 AM
He didn't because he has astonishing arrogance.

I'd like to see you walk away from your high paying job just because a few yokes with scarves and a web cam are angry at you.

A few yokes. I'd say a good 60-70% of fans want him to leave. Thats a fair few million people around the world.

And? You'd leave your job even if that was the case?

Some (most) people have lost all prespective when it comes to Arsène Wenger.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 02, 2018, 08:02:07 PM
You're being generous Walter. I'd say well into the 90s. It's extremely sad. Well, apart from his £8m.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 03, 2018, 09:35:12 AM
Interesting article

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/02/arsenal-players-arsene-wenger-meeting
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on March 04, 2018, 03:04:34 PM
Don't know if I want an Arsenal comeback. Would take the L if it meant board would act a and P45 for Wenger.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 04, 2018, 03:19:52 PM
You get the impression Gazidis would get rid of him, however the decision is Kroenkes so its unlikely. At least Arsenal fan tv will be good!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 04, 2018, 03:55:36 PM
I have never watched Arsenal Fan TV, is it up there with the Wire?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2018, 03:56:18 PM
Just sad.

Will never diminish what he achieved.

But, Jesus, any team could beat Arsenal. Even Dungannon Swifts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: From the Bunker on March 04, 2018, 04:18:47 PM
Milan away next! To be honest, better it's away! If it was at home it would be embarrassing as the stadium would be nearly empty!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on March 04, 2018, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 04, 2018, 04:18:47 PM
Milan away next! To be honest, better it's away! If it was at home it would be embarrassing as the stadium would be nearly empty!

That game's going to be a near sell-out regardless Bunker. Paying too much heed to Arsenal Fan TV.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2018, 05:22:14 PM
Can't win the league now which is a bit of a blow.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 04, 2018, 05:29:47 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 04, 2018, 05:22:14 PM
Can't win the league now which is a bit of a blow.
Can win the Europa League which would be a bit of a boost.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 05, 2018, 02:47:00 PM
Paddy power have paid out on Wenger as next PL manager to get the boot
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: laoislad on March 08, 2018, 06:56:54 PM
Wenger In.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: From the Bunker on March 08, 2018, 07:27:33 PM
Jez, Milan must be shite!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on March 08, 2018, 07:33:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 08, 2018, 07:27:33 PM
Jez, Milan must be shite!

They've spent massively on players this season. Arsenal putting in a quaility shift.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on March 08, 2018, 07:40:11 PM
Quote from: laoislad on March 08, 2018, 06:56:54 PM
Wenger In.

Not a chance.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: From the Bunker on March 08, 2018, 07:43:32 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 08, 2018, 07:33:37 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 08, 2018, 07:27:33 PM
Jez, Milan must be shite!

They've spent massively on players this season. Arsenal putting in a quaility shift.

I hope part of that massive spend did not include Borini?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on March 08, 2018, 07:43:42 PM
They're 7th in Serie A, hardly the Milan of old..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on March 08, 2018, 07:45:40 PM
Ozil off Holding on. Wenger ffs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Aaron Boone on March 08, 2018, 07:46:11 PM
Quote from: Boycey on March 08, 2018, 07:43:42 PM
They're 7th in Serie A, hardly the Milan of old..

Brighton would give them a game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on March 08, 2018, 07:53:20 PM
Quote from: Boycey on March 08, 2018, 07:43:42 PM
They're 7th in Serie A, hardly the Milan of old..

No one was calling Arsenal bullying them pillar to post in the San Siro two hours ago.

Whatever about the last three games, this was the one that was most important to the future of the club. All in for the Europa now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 08, 2018, 08:24:57 PM
Quote from: Boycey on March 08, 2018, 07:43:42 PM
They're 7th in Serie A, hardly the Milan of old..
2011 since AC Milan were decent? sad to see a once great club fall so low and showing little sign of recovering. Atl Madrid look like the side to beat in this years Europa league.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on March 15, 2018, 08:54:30 PM
Jesus that was a soft pen for the Goons.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on April 06, 2018, 10:39:49 AM
5 wins in a row.....when the pressure is off there is no better team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: AZOffaly on April 06, 2018, 10:40:17 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 06, 2018, 10:39:49 AM
5 wins in a row.....when the pressure is off there is no better team.

they'll win this yoke.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 06, 2018, 10:56:39 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 06, 2018, 10:40:17 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 06, 2018, 10:39:49 AM
5 wins in a row.....when the pressure is off there is no better team.

they'll win this yoke.

If they do will they take the automatic position of 4th place or will they go into qualifiers for the CL?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: AZOffaly on April 06, 2018, 10:58:16 AM
"The winners of the 2017–18 UEFA Champions League and 2017–18 UEFA Europa League are each given an additional entry if they do not qualify for the 2018–19 UEFA Champions League through their domestic league."

Apart from the allocation based on the country coefficients, associations may have additional teams participating in the Champions League, as noted below:

(UCL) – Additional berth for UEFA Champions League title holders
(UEL) – Additional berth for UEFA Europa League title holders
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on April 06, 2018, 11:26:05 AM
I'd imagine Athletico will win anyway.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 13, 2018, 11:57:21 AM
Arsenal drew the short straw.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Aaron Boone on April 13, 2018, 12:16:13 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 13, 2018, 11:57:21 AM
Arsenal drew the short straw.

Athletico drew the short straw.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: AZOffaly on April 13, 2018, 12:58:04 PM
they'll win this yoke.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: angermanagement on April 20, 2018, 09:58:36 AM
Wenger to quit at the end of the season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Denn Forever on April 20, 2018, 12:01:41 PM
Who'll replace him?  Antonio Conte may be available at the end of the year?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: laoislad on April 20, 2018, 12:23:01 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 20, 2018, 12:01:41 PM
Who'll replace him? 
(https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article12375050.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/JS148970872.jpg)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on April 20, 2018, 12:56:50 PM
21 years without him. 22 with him.  A lot of brilliant memories.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 20, 2018, 01:43:46 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on April 20, 2018, 09:58:36 AM
Wenger to quit at the end of the season.
Some Arsenal supporters won't truly appreciate how good Wenger was until he's gone.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: screenexile on April 20, 2018, 01:45:38 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on April 20, 2018, 01:43:46 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on April 20, 2018, 09:58:36 AM
Wenger to quit at the end of the season.
Some Arsenal supporters won't truly appreciate how good Wenger was until he's gone.

Their next manager is a HUGE call and sets the scene for the next 5-10 years. . . look at what happened at United!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Shamrock Shore on April 20, 2018, 02:10:32 PM
Only one man for the job!

(https://www.breakingnews.ie/remote/media.central.ie/media/images/h/HarryRedknappCastlehavenTheToughest_large.jpg?width=600&s=bn-837970)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Taylor on April 20, 2018, 02:18:31 PM
Terry Henry

Patrick Viera
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Klopp out on April 20, 2018, 02:22:33 PM
A shame to see Wenger go. Probably long overdue but at his peak he presided over some of the best football I've watched. Hopefully he takes another job and does well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 20, 2018, 02:23:40 PM
Only man for the job!!!
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 20, 2018, 02:27:13 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on April 20, 2018, 12:01:41 PM
Who'll replace him?  Antonio Conte may be available at the end of the year?
Replaced by another unknown who is currently managing in the Japanese league?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Avondhu star on April 20, 2018, 02:28:26 PM
Wenger brought some of the greatest players into the Premiership. Vierra, Henry, Bergkamp, Pires etc. He could still end the season with a trophy.
Carlo Ancelotti would be a good choice as replacement
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: JohnDenver on April 20, 2018, 02:34:09 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 20, 2018, 02:28:26 PM
Wenger brought some of the greatest players into the Premiership. Vierra, Henry, Bergkamp, Pires etc. He could still end the season with a trophy.
Carlo Ancelotti would be a good choice as replacement

Bruce Rioch signed Bergkamp
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 20, 2018, 03:09:02 PM
I thought I would be happy but it makes me sad. Wenger will always remain one of my favourite men on the planet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on April 20, 2018, 03:13:59 PM
A high class man in a sport filled with low class supporters and even owners and players. Legendary manager.

I would love him to get a few years at a superpower club and embellish his record before he retires.

Arsenal should just give the keys of the operation to Ancelotti if they want the best possible hire. Vieira is being touted be he probably needs a few more years experience at a level higher than the MLS to be a realistic option.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Orchard park on April 20, 2018, 03:44:13 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 20, 2018, 02:23:40 PM
Only man for the job!!!
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its him pardew, Tony Pulis or Sparky Hughes all those small clubs who are struggling go to alright
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: gawa316 on April 20, 2018, 03:46:24 PM
England to come calling after southgate leads them to World Cup humiliation?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on April 20, 2018, 06:38:21 PM
Happy to see him going and think the timing is right so fans can get behind him and stop being AFTV knobs. Was a great servant to club and although went stale will always be a legend.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Avondhu star on April 20, 2018, 06:49:27 PM
Quote from: JohnDenver on April 20, 2018, 02:34:09 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on April 20, 2018, 02:28:26 PM
Wenger brought some of the greatest players into the Premiership. Vierra, Henry, Bergkamp, Pires etc. He could still end the season with a trophy.
Carlo Ancelotti would be a good choice as replacement

Bruce Rioch signed Bergkamp
I stand corrected. Winger put some great teams together though with a good mix of English and continental players
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on April 20, 2018, 07:02:57 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 20, 2018, 03:09:02 PM
I thought I would be happy but it makes me sad. Wenger will always remain one of my favourite men on the planet.

That's it. Like an oul dog put out of its misery, you still miss it knocking about.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Asal Mor on April 20, 2018, 07:53:12 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 20, 2018, 07:02:57 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 20, 2018, 03:09:02 PM
I thought I would be happy but it makes me sad. Wenger will always remain one of my favourite men on the planet.

That's it. Like an oul dog put out of its misery, you still miss it knocking about.
:)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on April 20, 2018, 10:40:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 20, 2018, 07:02:57 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 20, 2018, 03:09:02 PM
I thought I would be happy but it makes me sad. Wenger will always remain one of my favourite men on the planet.

That's it. Like an oul dog put out of its misery, you still miss it knocking about.

Who you want next? Allegri for me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2018, 12:32:46 AM
I don't care. Just something different. A relegation battle would be exciting. 22 years is too long.  Give someone else a go.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: seafoid on April 21, 2018, 12:58:58 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 21, 2018, 12:32:46 AM
I don't care. Just something different. A relegation battle would be exciting. 22 years is too long.  Give someone else a go.
Steve Staunton.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: dec on April 21, 2018, 01:53:20 AM
Bring back George Graham
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Aaron Boone on April 21, 2018, 02:38:41 AM
You will always get a smile from the outsiders on the next manager list.

Mick McCarthy available at 200/1 for the Arsenal job, Alan Curbishley 250/1.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: HiMucker on April 21, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
Brendan Rodgers would be a good fit in my opinion.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on April 21, 2018, 04:42:01 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on April 21, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
Brendan Rodgers would be a good fit in my opinion.

You have to be joking. Replacing a Rolls-Royce with a hatchback springs to mind. If you're moving on a manager as good as Wenger you damn well better have a better candidate in mind than Brendan Rodgers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Avondhu star on April 21, 2018, 11:50:08 PM
Had a few pints in the Bank of Friendship in Highbury this afternoon.
Lots of options mentioned but not one Englishman in the frame. Hard luck Sam
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Over the Bar on April 22, 2018, 12:01:53 AM
Quote from: Syferus on April 21, 2018, 04:42:01 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on April 21, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
Brendan Rodgers would be a good fit in my opinion.

You have to be joking. Replacing a Rolls-Royce with a hatchback springs to mind. If you're moving on a manager as good as Wenger you damn well better have a better candidate in mind than Brendan Rodgers.

Rodgers may not be a Rolls Royce but his record is better than many on the shortlist being touted.  Don't forget Wenger was a nobody when he took the Arsenal job. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Jim Bob on April 22, 2018, 12:24:41 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on April 21, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
Brendan Rodgers would be a good fit in my opinion.

Not good enough for Liverpool so why would Arsenal take him!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on April 22, 2018, 01:43:50 AM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/departing-arsenal-boss-arsene-wenger-12404085

That sounds like a nearly perfect role for Wenger. He'd be getting the keys to a true ultra-power in terms of financial strength. He could easily win the European Cup that has eluded him thus far and he'd be returning home a hero after decades aboard. Depends on if he's willing to take a more operational and executive role or still wants to manage, though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Main Street on April 22, 2018, 06:50:48 PM
"Only one Arsène Wenger"...

Crocodile tears.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Orchard park on April 22, 2018, 08:13:01 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on April 22, 2018, 12:24:41 AM
Quote from: HiMucker on April 21, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
Brendan Rodgers would be a good fit in my opinion.

Not good enough for Liverpool so why would Arsenal take him!

Because of the way he skilfully negotiated the SPL   the man is the ultimate manager......





A club is really fuct when his name crops up. Prize gobshite
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on April 22, 2018, 10:04:34 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/apr/22/arsene-wenger-arsenal-hurtful-supporters

Pure class. I don't think there is a better man managing at the top level.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on April 23, 2018, 04:11:20 PM
Big game on Thursday. Hoping Ozil and Wilshere are added to the squad ok. In recent years Arsenal have flopped when the presure is really on in Europe, often over by half time - hopefully the back 4 or 5 or 3 play beyond their norm for Arsene's last home game in Europe at this club.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 23, 2018, 04:14:43 PM
Its looking like Wengers replacement will be Luis Enrique.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: tiempo on April 23, 2018, 04:42:37 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 23, 2018, 04:11:20 PM
Big game on Thursday. Hoping Ozil and Wilshere are added to the squad ok. In recent years Arsenal have flopped when the presure is really on in Europe, often over by half time - hopefully the back 4 or 5 or 3 play beyond their norm for Arsene's last home game in Europe at this club.

Eh?? Wenger era European campaigns a failure one and all, buckled that many times its shambolic. 2000 UEFA Cup Final v Galatasaray, shambolic, bottled it massively.

Couple of good results here and there yes but on balance didn't make close to the impact they should have in 20 years.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on April 23, 2018, 04:44:43 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 23, 2018, 04:11:20 PM
Big game on Thursday. Hoping Ozil and Wilshere are added to the squad ok. In recent years Arsenal have flopped when the presure is really on in Europe, often over by half time - hopefully the back 4 or 5 or 3 play beyond their norm for Arsene's last home game in Europe at this club.

Winning his first European trophy beating a top side like Athletico on the way and handing his successor a passport to the CL, giving the club a big recruiting tool, would be a great sign off for Wenger.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 23, 2018, 05:46:56 PM
I like Wenger but he's not been a top manager for a long long time. Even when he had great teams he did nothing in Europe, not winning the UEFA cup with that team was pathetic; Arsenal were easily amongst the top 5 sides in Europe back then. He had a great chance to win the CL in 03/04 after drawing Chelsea in the quarter finals who knocked them out, if they'd beaten them they'd have had to beat Monaco & Porto to win it. They were never going to get an easier route than that.

Arsenal's record against the top side domestically and in Europe the past decade is poor, he should have gone last season after winning the FA Cup. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on April 26, 2018, 07:53:06 PM
On the facking Gooners
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on April 26, 2018, 08:01:59 PM
Big ask. Got a curry and some beer here for good luck. That might be all that gets enjoyed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on April 26, 2018, 08:22:14 PM
Madrid down to 10 men and Simeone sent off too. It's on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on April 26, 2018, 08:27:42 PM
4 decent chances first 20 mins. Pool would be 4-0 up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dougal Maguire on April 26, 2018, 08:56:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 26, 2018, 08:22:14 PM
Madrid down to 10 men and Simeone sent off too. It's on.
I see Giant Haystacks has taken over Simeone's duties
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on April 26, 2018, 08:57:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 26, 2018, 08:27:42 PM
4 decent chances first 20 mins. Pool would be 4-0 up.

More like 4-3 up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on April 26, 2018, 09:04:20 PM
Some chances, a lot of slop.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on April 26, 2018, 09:42:52 PM
Lacazette is really starting to show his quaility now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: laoislad on April 26, 2018, 09:49:48 PM
Wenger Out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 26, 2018, 09:57:30 PM
Smash and grab draw for Atletico Madrid helped by some awful defending. Wasteful Arsenal paid the price.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on April 26, 2018, 10:00:49 PM
That defending summed up the last 10 years.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on April 26, 2018, 10:03:41 PM
How quintessentially Arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on April 26, 2018, 10:41:30 PM
Godin wouldn't have tried to flick the ball over the attacker's head as a last man. Fcuk sake.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: The Trap on April 26, 2018, 10:46:03 PM
Only arsenal could concede against a team who had given up even trying to score!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Windmill abu on April 26, 2018, 11:15:09 PM
Arsenal still well in this tie. Lacazette starting to look like a quality player with possibly a few leadership qualities. Hopefully the new manager will stop giving the likes of Wiltshire & Wellbeck unlimited chances because they are English.

If Arsenal are serious about competing for the premiership, then they can't have someone as unreliable as Wiltshire as a first choice mid-fielder.  Its time he went the way of Theo and the Ox.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on April 26, 2018, 11:16:32 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on April 26, 2018, 11:15:09 PM
Arsenal still well in this tie. Lacazette starting to look like a quality player with possibly a few leadership qualities. Hopefully the new manager will stop giving the likes of Wiltshire & Wellbeck unlimited chances because they are English.

If Arsenal are serious about competing for the premiership, then they can't have someone as unreliable as Wiltshire as a first choice mid-fielder.  Its time he went the way of Theo and the Ox.

You do know he's out of contract in a month, right?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Windmill abu on April 26, 2018, 11:21:31 PM
Yes, but Arsenal have already offered him a new contract (albeit at reduced wages). Time to withdraw the offer and let him go.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on April 26, 2018, 11:32:20 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on April 26, 2018, 11:21:31 PM
Yes, but Arsenal have already offered him a new contract (albeit at reduced wages). Time to withdraw the offer and let him go.

If you can get him at squad rotation prices it's good business. It's not like Jesse Lingard is pulling up any trees and he got near 100k a week on a multi-year deal this season. The big clubs in Europe are littered with squad players like Wilshere.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Windmill abu on April 26, 2018, 11:51:43 PM
Quote from: Syferus on April 26, 2018, 11:32:20 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on April 26, 2018, 11:21:31 PM
Yes, but Arsenal have already offered him a new contract (albeit at reduced wages). Time to withdraw the offer and let him go.

If you can get him at squad rotation prices it's good business. It's not like Jesse Lingard is pulling up any trees and he got near 100k a week on a multi-year deal this season. The big clubs in Europe are littered with squad players like Wilshere.

I agree that squad rotation players at good prices is good business. But Jack Wilshire has had enough chances to prove himself at the top level. Keeping him as a sub or league/fa cup player, knowing he won't be good enough for the Arsenal first team is unfair to him and the other players trying for that position.  When you use the the word littered about Wilshire, I beleive you know the same.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on April 27, 2018, 12:27:28 AM
But Wilshere is all he has for the run in. Somehow get the best out of him. The new manager will clear out some rubbish.

I think the new man has a bigger job than Wenger had in 96/97.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on April 27, 2018, 12:36:29 AM
Quote from: ONeill on April 27, 2018, 12:27:28 AM
But Wilshere is all he has for the run in. Somehow get the best out of him. The new manager will clear out some rubbish.

I think the new man has a bigger job than Wenger had in 96/97.

Ya wha. Arsenal is a money printing machine with more than a few quaility players up front. The successor will have a hard job following Wenger but the health of the club is is way better than it was when he arrived.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 27, 2018, 11:26:54 AM
The journo's seem to think there's about £50m to spend this summer plus what they bring in. I don't see that been too appealing to a new manager. Looking at that Arsenal squad they'll do well to make top 4 next season based on that transfer budget. I don't think they've got too many players who a new manager would want to get rid of who would generate a decent transfer fee. 

Arsenal's wage bill is extremely high for a club who've not had a great team in over 10 years, their must be several players at the club in too much money. It looks so much worse when their wage bill is 50% more than Spurs.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2018, 11:54:32 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 27, 2018, 11:26:54 AM
The journo's seem to think there's about £50m to spend this summer plus what they bring in. I don't see that been too appealing to a new manager. Looking at that Arsenal squad they'll do well to make top 4 next season based on that transfer budget. I don't think they've got too many players who a new manager would want to get rid of who would generate a decent transfer fee. 

Arsenal's wage bill is extremely high for a club who've not had a great team in over 10 years, their must be several players at the club in too much money. It looks so much worse when their wage bill is 50% more than Spurs.

Ah yes the Man United way, spend big money on buying shit players, repeat. As Klopp has shown a good coach can make perceived average players into good players. The Ox being a prime example. A couple of astute signings with a coach not afraid to be defensive will easily take that squad into the top 4.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Maroon Manc on April 27, 2018, 12:04:01 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2018, 11:54:32 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 27, 2018, 11:26:54 AM
The journo's seem to think there's about £50m to spend this summer plus what they bring in. I don't see that been too appealing to a new manager. Looking at that Arsenal squad they'll do well to make top 4 next season based on that transfer budget. I don't think they've got too many players who a new manager would want to get rid of who would generate a decent transfer fee. 

Arsenal's wage bill is extremely high for a club who've not had a great team in over 10 years, their must be several players at the club in too much money. It looks so much worse when their wage bill is 50% more than Spurs.

Ah yes the Man United way, spend big money on buying shit players, repeat. As Klopp has shown a good coach can make perceived average players into good players. The Ox being a prime example. A couple of astute signings with a coach not afraid to be defensive will easily take that squad into the top 4.

I agree on a good coach but getting one is the problem, who is available that is as good as Klopp? You can see the problems United have had since Fergie left, gone through 2 different managers to get to the right one.

Klopp has bought well but has managed to raise well over £200m from player sales to finance it, I just don't see where who Arsenal are going to sell to raise anything near that.

As for Arsenal's squad, the table doesn't lie and a good gap has developed in quality to the rest of the top 6. Arsenal need more than a couple of astute signings.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2018, 12:09:42 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 27, 2018, 12:04:01 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 27, 2018, 11:54:32 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 27, 2018, 11:26:54 AM
The journo's seem to think there's about £50m to spend this summer plus what they bring in. I don't see that been too appealing to a new manager. Looking at that Arsenal squad they'll do well to make top 4 next season based on that transfer budget. I don't think they've got too many players who a new manager would want to get rid of who would generate a decent transfer fee. 

Arsenal's wage bill is extremely high for a club who've not had a great team in over 10 years, their must be several players at the club in too much money. It looks so much worse when their wage bill is 50% more than Spurs.

Ah yes the Man United way, spend big money on buying shit players, repeat. As Klopp has shown a good coach can make perceived average players into good players. The Ox being a prime example. A couple of astute signings with a coach not afraid to be defensive will easily take that squad into the top 4.

I agree on a good coach but getting one is the problem, who is available that is as good as Klopp? You can see the problems United have had since Fergie left, gone through 2 different managers to get to the right one.

Klopp has bought well but has managed to raise well over £200m from player sales to finance it, I just don't see where who Arsenal are going to sell to raise anything near that.

As for Arsenal's squad, the table doesn't lie and a good gap has developed in quality to the rest of the top 6. Arsenal need more than a couple of astute signings.

A manager has a wish list of players he wants, how much is that his control nowadays?

Does Klopp have full control over transfers? I'd be surprised if he does (I could be corrected)... What Klopp has been brilliant at is changing these players into something else, or getting another 30/40% extra from them.. For me thats the sign of a great manager, all well and good at getting the best players, gelling them together to make a team, is totaly different
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on April 30, 2018, 06:42:57 PM
The Greek lad and Maitlin Niles were solid yesterday. Xhaka though...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on April 30, 2018, 07:09:18 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on April 30, 2018, 06:42:57 PM
The Greek lad and Maitlin Niles were solid yesterday. Xhaka though...

Xhaka was actually good though. I'd take Souness with a pinch of salt. He said Arsenal have not got close to Utd in recent years even though this will be the first time in a while Utd finish above Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on April 30, 2018, 07:18:40 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 30, 2018, 07:09:18 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on April 30, 2018, 06:42:57 PM
The Greek lad and Maitlin Niles were solid yesterday. Xhaka though...

Xhaka was actually good though. I'd take Souness with a pinch of salt. He said Arsenal have not got close to Utd in recent years even though this will be the first time in a while Utd finish above Arsenal.

Souness is the British Dunphy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on April 30, 2018, 07:50:28 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 30, 2018, 07:09:18 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on April 30, 2018, 06:42:57 PM
The Greek lad and Maitlin Niles were solid yesterday. Xhaka though...

Xhaka was actually good though. I'd take Souness with a pinch of salt. He said Arsenal have not got close to Utd in recent years even though this will be the first time in a while Utd finish above Arsenal.

He recovered well, that's ok - but to wear the captains armband and give the ball away like he did in the first half and his slide for the goal - that was worse than something you'd see in Sunday league.

He had a solid second half - but the jury is still very much out on him.

Not sure what Souness has to do with my comment - I was watching on NBCSN.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on April 30, 2018, 08:30:11 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on April 30, 2018, 07:50:28 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on April 30, 2018, 07:09:18 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on April 30, 2018, 06:42:57 PM
The Greek lad and Maitlin Niles were solid yesterday. Xhaka though...

Xhaka was actually good though. I'd take Souness with a pinch of salt. He said Arsenal have not got close to Utd in recent years even though this will be the first time in a while Utd finish above Arsenal.

He recovered well, that's ok - but to wear the captains armband and give the ball away like he did in the first half and his slide for the goal - that was worse than something you'd see in Sunday league.

He had a solid second half - but the jury is still very much out on him.

Not sure what Souness has to do with my comment - I was watching on NBCSN.

Souness called him a fool. I think he's being really good in recent weeks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Puckoon on April 30, 2018, 08:42:03 PM
Not the least accurate thing he could have been called. Certainly made some foolish decisions - but he did work hard to create the goal in the second half yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on May 03, 2018, 10:25:22 PM
Under the blue skies of her native land
She languished and began to fade. . .
Until surely there flew without a sound
Above me, her young shade.
But there stretches between us an uncrossable line;
In vain my feelings I tried to awaken.
The lips that brought the news were made of stone,
And I listened like a stone, unshaken.
So this is she for whom my soul once burned
In the tense and heavy fire,
Obsessed, exhausted, driven out of my mind
By tenderness and desire!
Where are the torments? Where is love? Alas!
For the unreturning days'
Sweet memory and for the poor credulous
Shade, I find no lament, no tears
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 11, 2018, 11:01:20 AM
The Falling of the Leaves
W. B. Yeats, 1865 - 1939

Autumn is over the long leaves that love us,
And over the mice in the barley sheaves;
Yellow the leaves of the rowan above us,
And yellow the wet wild-strawberry leaves.

The hour of the waning of love has beset us,
And weary and worn are our sad souls now;
Let us part, ere the season of passion forget us,
With a kiss and a tear on thy drooping
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on May 11, 2018, 07:43:03 PM
I do like my hair being pulled from time to time, it's like a pair of reins, innit?

Katie Price
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on May 13, 2018, 10:26:13 PM
Bye Bye Arsene. You were deadly.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 13, 2018, 11:44:11 PM
I miss him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on May 13, 2018, 11:46:08 PM
Fcuk....what do we do now?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Windmill abu on May 13, 2018, 11:53:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on May 13, 2018, 11:46:08 PM
Fcuk....what do we do now?

We feel sorry for whoever replaces him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 14, 2018, 12:52:14 PM
"In Arteta we trust"
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 14, 2018, 02:49:43 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 14, 2018, 12:52:14 PM
"In Arteta we trust"

Underwhelming but sure he'll be in the seat for years.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: AZOffaly on May 14, 2018, 02:51:12 PM
did I see your man DT posing for a selfie with Wenger :) Neck like a jockeys bollox.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 14, 2018, 03:03:09 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 14, 2018, 02:51:12 PM
did I see your man DT posing for a selfie with Wenger :) Neck like a jockeys bollox.

I have never watch Arsenal TV but he was destroyed on Twitter over it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Saffronista on May 14, 2018, 03:38:53 PM
May get used to the fact that there are going to be a few years of strife when the new man comes in. Arteta is a big gamble, I would prefer to see him go elsewhere as a gaffer and if up to the task come back and take the hot seat. What we need is defensive stability. Auba and Lacazette will score 30+ goals a season between them but we will concede far more if we continue with the current shambles at the back.

Allegri would be my choice but seemingly he's committed to the old lady for another season so next in line would Luis Enrique.

No matter who gets it we cant do the United method of a few dung bags before getting the right man, he has to be got immediately and clear out the dead wood in the current squad!

Ohhhh to be a Gooona!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on May 14, 2018, 03:40:19 PM
Arsenal Fan TV has done more to destroy Arsenal's reputation over the last decade than Wenger could ever have done. What a bunch of wànkers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on May 14, 2018, 04:01:12 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 14, 2018, 03:40:19 PM
Arsenal Fan TV has done more to destroy Arsenal's reputation over the last decade than Wenger could ever have done. What a bunch of wànkers.

Away and shite  ;D ;D

Most of us adults take stuff as a bit of an irritation that's occasionally funny..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on May 15, 2018, 08:47:41 PM
The real Arsène Wenger: Atheist. Politics lover. Gym obsessive. Non-stop football fanatic. Mostly eats salad.

Unless he breaks the habit of a lifetime, the first thing that Arsène Wenger will do when he boards the Arsenal coach for the final time, in Huddersfield tomorrow, will be to ask the driver to put Levante v Barcelona on the television. The Frenchman may indulge himself with an Italian meal at the Cocorico Italiano restaurant in Totteridge when he gets home a few hours later, but not if Arsenal have lost his 1,239th and final game of a remarkable reign.
"He won't go out after a defeat, and even if people come round to his house he won't talk," a long-serving colleague explains. "He will pore over the game finding excuses for the defeat, until two days later he finally acknowledges that the opposition were the better team."

Those who know Wenger best paint a fond picture of a man who has essentially lived the same day over and over again for his entire 22 years at Arsenal, a groundhog day existing with the only slight variety coming on match-day, which even then is dictated by the team's results. "He's a football hermit," explains a close friend. "His car would be the best second-hand car to buy in London as it doesn't go anywhere. It goes from his house to the training ground every day, and then once a fortnight to the stadium."

Wenger's daily life has run as smoothly and efficiently as the best of his Arsenal teams over those past two decades, with his dedication to football matched only by his commitment to maintaining his own health and fitness. At 75kg the 68-year-old's weight is exactly the same as it was when he joined Arsenal in 1996, the result of a rigorous exercise regime and strict diet, with small portions of salad enlivened by the occasional glass of red wine and a single chocolate for dessert. "When he gets up every morning the first thing he does is put on his stopwatch," another regular visitor to the Wenger residence says. "He's like a Swiss clock, everything is timed to perfection."

Wenger's day always begins with a 45-minute workout in his home gym, which is supplemented by a swim or a bike ride in summer when the weather permits. The Frenchman's cycling around the leafy lanes of south Hertfordshire was briefly interrupted last summer when he was knocked off his bike, although thankfully he was not seriously injured, with the driver responsible for running the Arsenal manager off the road getting more of a shock than he did when he rose to his feet to reveal his identity.

Such is Wenger's desire to start the day with a dose of exercise and fresh air that during his early days in London he developed the habit of sneaking into the nearby Totteridge Tennis Club before it had opened to hit some balls, although this practice had to end when he stopped being "Arsène Who?" and became more famous.

Wenger leaves home at 8.30am on the dot, arriving at Arsenal's training ground in London Colney just before 9am to begin work. The serious business starts with a staff meeting in which he outlines his plans and goals for that day's training, which begins at 10am with the manager a very visible, hands-on presence. A long-serving member of Wenger's backroom team claims that he has never missed a session in 22 years, such is his dedication to the cause.
"The boss sets the session up, walks out with a purpose and always watches the whole session," he says. "He doesn't leave things to the other coaches. As the session goes on, he's walking around and you can feel him watching players, asking questions. He's always out on the pitch."

After lunch Wenger watches a recording of the entire training session and has meetings with his staff and players, who are welcome to drop in at any time. The door to his office is open most of the time with the manager conscious to make sure he is accessible, although, rather than holding formal meetings, many of his conversations with the players take place as they are walking out to train or during the session. In recent years Steve Bould, his assistant manager, has held most of the team meetings, with Wenger preferring to offer his guidance one to one.

Wenger was responsible for lobbying the club to build the new training ground 20 years ago, as well as being instrumental in the construction of the Emirates Stadium, and his pride in the place and respect for all the staff remain obvious. His gift for diplomacy is such that he has managed to stay on good terms with all the competing factions at Arsenal, including Stan Kroenke, the majority shareholder, and Alisher Usmanov, his great rival, who sends Wenger several hampers every Christmas, the contents of which he gives to workers at the training ground.

"He makes a point of walking around the training ground checking everything is immaculate," a staff member says. "When they planted some new trees recently he was always talking to the groundsmen, asking them how they were doing. He gets on very well with the head groundsman and they have a laugh and a joke, with the boss asking him how many tractors he buys every year. He has got a real human touch. He talks to all the security staff and gets on with everyone."

Wenger also makes a point of making himself available to all of Arsenal's academy coaches, who are based at a different site, at Hale End, as well as welcoming back former players such as Thierry Henry and Freddie Ljungberg who are looking for guidance on how to develop their own coaching careers. Such is his enthusiasm for talking football that he has frequently had to be ushered away from an informal chat with a group of youth-team coaches because of his first-team duties.

"He comes to life when us old boys come back in, you can see the spark in his eye," one former player says. "He just loves talking about football and always tries to help people out."

Wenger's evenings are similarly set in stone and revolve around watching football, with the odd documentary or political programme thrown in. With his eye always on the future, his house is not the footballing museum that one would imagine and there is no trophy room, with Wenger's nostalgia limited to having a few photographs of old teams in his study, with one of The Invincibles most prominent.

"He generally arrives home at 6.15pm, when he'll make himself some salad or go to the local Waitrose," a friend familiar with his routine explains. "At 7.45pm he'll settle down to watch the first game, and afterwards he'll catch up with highlights from all the others.
"For the first ten years I went to his house I only ever saw him watching football. It's always on. He has a massive screen in his lounge, flicking between games. He watches the games for pleasure, but will also analyse them. When the football is all over he will watch a political programme or read a biography."

Wenger's appetite for football is such that once one game is over his immediate instinct is to find another one, even after Arsenal have just finished playing.

"As soon as we get on the coach after an away game the first thing he says is, 'Get the Spanish football on'," a member of his team says. "It's football, football, football. I've never brought up a game that he's not watched, or a player he doesn't know. Sometimes the staff try to test him by talking about an African game or scoreline and he says, 'Yes, I watched that'. His knowledge is remarkable."

Despite what is clearly an obsessive approach to the game, Wenger is well read and knowledgeable about a wide variety of subjects, particularly politics and economics.

While he gives little away about his own personal politics, friends characterise him as a liberal whose natural home is on the centre left, and he made a point of dashing back from a game to the French embassy in London at the end of last season to ensure that he could vote against Marine Le Pen, the National Front candidate, in France's presidential election.

"He talks about politics a lot," an Arsenal colleague says. "He doesn't give a lot away, but I think he's a socialist. He talks about animal rights, geography, finance. He must read a lot and watch a lot of documentaries. He follows the stock exchange quite closely and seems to know a lot about the financial markets."

Wenger is an atheist but, despite this, was profoundly moved by meeting the Pope while refereeing a so-called peace match in Rome four years ago, insisting on fulfilling his commitment to attend even though it clashed with the final day of the transfer window when Arsenal were negotiating the purchase of Danny Welbeck from Manchester United.

He also enjoys travel and gets regular invitations to speak at events all over the world. He receives offers of non-executive directorships from global companies and is particularly fascinated by China. On one trip to Beijing he was asked to have a go at karaoke with Jackie Chan, but politely declined.
Such is Wenger's commitment to work that his only regular holiday is a two-week break in the south of France each summer, often with his ex-wife Annie. The pair remain extremely close with Annie attending his final match at the Emirates last Sunday with their daughter Lea, who is studying veterinary science at Cambridge University, followed by a dinner for 40 close friends. His personal circle is relatively small, with most of his closer friendships stemming from his time in Strasbourg and Monaco. Despite generally shying away from large social events, Wenger hosts a meal for his back-room staff at the team hotel during pre-season, as well as having Christmas drinks on the day the players go out for their Christmas party. Typically he does not venture far, with the festive celebrations limited to a few glasses of wine at the training ground. "Arsène has lived in London for 22 years but couldn't drive from his home to Piccadilly Circus," is how one friend puts it.

A whole new world will open to Wenger from tomorrow evening, never mind just this country's capital city, but as he attempts to re-organise his life, his first instinct will be to get back to work.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on May 15, 2018, 09:00:20 PM
Legend.

My favourite football manager of all-time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: SHEEDY on May 21, 2018, 08:00:33 PM
unai emery set to be appointed new arsenal manager, to be announced in next few days. arsenal fans happy with that??
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on May 21, 2018, 08:05:02 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 21, 2018, 08:00:33 PM
unai emery set to be appointed new arsenal manager, to be announced in next few days. arsenal fans happy with that??

A shitty appointment. Someone who couldn't win the French league with a ultra power last season and got humiliated by Barcelona in the CL too. Those who campaigned to get rid of Wenger will have serious egg on their faces if that is the level of replacement Arsenal are able to attract. Reality is biting for the Arsenal TV crowd.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Insane Bolt on May 21, 2018, 08:46:11 PM
Will he be Dick Emery by Xmas?😜
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on May 21, 2018, 09:18:13 PM
I actually would have preferred Arteta. The unknown was exciting. In Emerys defence he does a lot of video analysis and tactical work, something being lacking before.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 21, 2018, 10:11:20 PM
A shitty appointment according to Syf. Well there you have it folks. Emery out!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on May 21, 2018, 10:12:54 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 21, 2018, 10:11:20 PM
A shitty appointment according to Syf. Well there you have it folks. Emery out!!

Your extreme offense at an opinion gave me a good laugh.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 10:18:14 PM
Interesting appointment, decent record in the La Liga which is a higher standard than the EPL so that bodes well. Important thing though it's a new cartoon, looking forward to watching something new.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on May 21, 2018, 11:11:12 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 10:18:14 PM
Interesting appointment, decent record in the La Liga which is a higher standard than the EPL so that bodes well. Important thing though it's a new cartoon, looking forward to watching something new.

I hope your tongue was firmly in your cheek when you wrote this.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 11:20:29 PM
Hardly. 10 out the last 15 Europa/UEFA titles, after Sunday 9 of the last 15 UCL titles.

EPL has been pretty shit the last while, mini revival this year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on May 21, 2018, 11:30:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 11:20:29 PM
Hardly. 10 out the last 15 Europa/UEFA titles, after Sunday 9 of the last 15 UCL titles.

EPL has been pretty shit the last while, mini revival this year.

The level of the bottom 10-12 teams in Spain would be significantly lower than most EPL teams. The far more equitable money that lower level EPL teams get from the huge TV deals and the fact big three in Spain are hovering up most of the La Liga money has only widened that gap. Clubs like Girona, Leganes and Eibar (their stadium has a capacity of 7,100!) have facilities that a lot of League One teams would laugh at.

The EPL is easily the best and deepest league in the world, simply because money has made it that. You can't simply judge a league on how well its elite teams do in Europe, Dinny.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 22, 2018, 06:10:36 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 21, 2018, 11:30:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 11:20:29 PM
Hardly. 10 out the last 15 Europa/UEFA titles, after Sunday 9 of the last 15 UCL titles.

EPL has been pretty shit the last while, mini revival this year.

The level of the bottom 10-12 teams in Spain would be significantly lower than most EPL teams. The far more equitable money that lower level EPL teams get from the huge TV deals and the fact big three in Spain are hovering up most of the La Liga money has only widened that gap. Clubs like Girona, Leganes and Eibar (their stadium has a capacity of 7,100!) have facilities that a lot of League One teams would laugh at.

The EPL is easily the best and deepest league in the world, simply because money has made it that. You can't simply judge a league on how well its elite teams do in Europe, Dinny.

Seriously, you can't judge a league based on the only 2 barometers available? Atletico Madrid Sevilla and Valencia are hardly European Elite.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Billys Boots on May 22, 2018, 09:12:13 AM
QuoteYou can't simply judge a league on how well its elite teams do in Europe, Dinny.

So what are the criteria for 'judging a league'?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 22, 2018, 10:06:37 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 21, 2018, 10:12:54 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 21, 2018, 10:11:20 PM
A shitty appointment according to Syf. Well there you have it folks. Emery out!!

Your extreme offense at an opinion gave me a good laugh.

No offence, merely highlighting your comment.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 22, 2018, 10:15:20 AM
Quote from: Billys Boots on May 22, 2018, 09:12:13 AM
QuoteYou can't simply judge a league on how well its elite teams do in Europe, Dinny.

So what are the criteria for 'judging a league'?

A wet Tuesday night in Stoke.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on May 22, 2018, 10:41:18 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 22, 2018, 06:10:36 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 21, 2018, 11:30:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 11:20:29 PM
Hardly. 10 out the last 15 Europa/UEFA titles, after Sunday 9 of the last 15 UCL titles.

EPL has been pretty shit the last while, mini revival this year.

The level of the bottom 10-12 teams in Spain would be significantly lower than most EPL teams. The far more equitable money that lower level EPL teams get from the huge TV deals and the fact big three in Spain are hovering up most of the La Liga money has only widened that gap. Clubs like Girona, Leganes and Eibar (their stadium has a capacity of 7,100!) have facilities that a lot of League One teams would laugh at.

The EPL is easily the best and deepest league in the world, simply because money has made it that. You can't simply judge a league on how well its elite teams do in Europe, Dinny.

Seriously, you can't judge a league based on the only 2 barometers available? Atletico Madrid Sevilla and Valencia are hardly European Elite.

Athetico are the 14th richest club on planet Earth Dinny. Their new stadium puts them in a position to perennially compete with the big two in Spain as well.

The Spanish league has a couple of giants and then a handful of mid-majors, to borrow an American collegiate term. Then the league drops off a cliff in terms of money and quality. Even the bottom team in the EPL gets around £100 million for their efforts - in one season they earn more money than the market value of many La Liga clubs. It's not because English footballers are better than Spainish footballers (they ain't), but the money attracts the sort of talent lower level Spainish clubs couldn't dream of affording.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Main Street on May 23, 2018, 12:15:19 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 22, 2018, 10:41:18 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 22, 2018, 06:10:36 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 21, 2018, 11:30:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 11:20:29 PM
Hardly. 10 out the last 15 Europa/UEFA titles, after Sunday 9 of the last 15 UCL titles.

EPL has been pretty shit the last while, mini revival this year.

The level of the bottom 10-12 teams in Spain would be significantly lower than most EPL teams. The far more equitable money that lower level EPL teams get from the huge TV deals and the fact big three in Spain are hovering up most of the La Liga money has only widened that gap. Clubs like Girona, Leganes and Eibar (their stadium has a capacity of 7,100!) have facilities that a lot of League One teams would laugh at.

The EPL is easily the best and deepest league in the world, simply because money has made it that. You can't simply judge a league on how well its elite teams do in Europe, Dinny.

Seriously, you can't judge a league based on the only 2 barometers available? Atletico Madrid Sevilla and Valencia are hardly European Elite.

Athetico are the 14th richest club on planet Earth Dinny. Their new stadium puts them in a position to perennially compete with the big two in Spain as well.

The Spanish league has a couple of giants and then a handful of mid-majors, to borrow an American collegiate term. Then the league drops off a cliff in terms of money and quality. Even the bottom team in the EPL gets around £100 million for their efforts - in one season they earn more money than the market value of many La Liga clubs. It's not because English footballers are better than Spainish footballers (they ain't), but the money attracts the sort of talent lower level Spainish clubs couldn't dream of affording.
This  season in Europe,  in the knock-out round and semi final,
Sevilla knocked out Man U,  Ath Madrid knocked out Arsenal.


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on May 23, 2018, 12:53:35 AM
Quote from: Main Street on May 23, 2018, 12:15:19 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 22, 2018, 10:41:18 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 22, 2018, 06:10:36 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 21, 2018, 11:30:52 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 21, 2018, 11:20:29 PM
Hardly. 10 out the last 15 Europa/UEFA titles, after Sunday 9 of the last 15 UCL titles.

EPL has been pretty shit the last while, mini revival this year.

The level of the bottom 10-12 teams in Spain would be significantly lower than most EPL teams. The far more equitable money that lower level EPL teams get from the huge TV deals and the fact big three in Spain are hovering up most of the La Liga money has only widened that gap. Clubs like Girona, Leganes and Eibar (their stadium has a capacity of 7,100!) have facilities that a lot of League One teams would laugh at.

The EPL is easily the best and deepest league in the world, simply because money has made it that. You can't simply judge a league on how well its elite teams do in Europe, Dinny.

Seriously, you can't judge a league based on the only 2 barometers available? Atletico Madrid Sevilla and Valencia are hardly European Elite.

Athetico are the 14th richest club on planet Earth Dinny. Their new stadium puts them in a position to perennially compete with the big two in Spain as well.

The Spanish league has a couple of giants and then a handful of mid-majors, to borrow an American collegiate term. Then the league drops off a cliff in terms of money and quality. Even the bottom team in the EPL gets around £100 million for their efforts - in one season they earn more money than the market value of many La Liga clubs. It's not because English footballers are better than Spainish footballers (they ain't), but the money attracts the sort of talent lower level Spainish clubs couldn't dream of affording.
This  season in Europe,  in the knock-out round and semi final,
Sevilla knocked out Man U,  Ath Madrid knocked out Arsenal.

And again, does that say anything about how Girona would fare against Everton or West Ham? A league's quaility isn't defined by one or two teams. It'd be like saying if PSG win the CL the French league is suddenly the best in the world, that just isn't how it works.

As it happens, the third best team in England this year are in the CL final..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 23, 2018, 08:19:51 AM
Lads don't engage this clown. He'd fight with his shadow.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on May 23, 2018, 10:08:47 AM
Far be it from me to agree with Syf but it's not an unreasonable point that although the top teams in Spain are currently ahead of the top teams in England (that's about to change mind you) that from top to bottom the Premier League is superior..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on May 23, 2018, 10:10:41 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 23, 2018, 08:19:51 AM
Lads don't engage this clown. He'd fight with his shadow.

This is the typical way of discourse on GAABoard when someone is proven wrong and they don't have the ability to make a counterpoint, nor the balls to concede they were wrong.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 23, 2018, 10:12:07 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 23, 2018, 10:10:41 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 23, 2018, 08:19:51 AM
Lads don't engage this clown. He'd fight with his shadow.

This is the typical way of discourse on GAABoard when someone is proven wrong and they don't have the ability to make a counterpoint, nor the balls to concede they were wrong.

Wheres the proof you muppet  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Until these teams play eachother we can only speculate. Maybe they'll revive the Intertoto Cup Syf!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on May 23, 2018, 10:28:38 AM
I would tend to agree with syferus on this one, slightly.  European competitions pit the best teams from each league against each other.  From that perspective each team is representing the domestic league they play in and should be seen as an indirect reflection on how good their league is based on their best teams. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2018, 10:44:11 AM
Over the same period of the PL the champions in La Liga have been Barca or Madrid nearly every time bar Athletico and Valencia once each! so its really only 2 teams competing

So that would be your Blackburn and Leicester City..... But then City (3 times) Chelsea (5 times) and Arsenal have won the league 3 times with Utd winning 13

Add in the likes of Liverpool (twice after the weekend  ;) ), Utd (twice) and Chelsea winning the CL in that period, also the few finals competed by the PL teams, they havent done too bad.. its a competitve enough competion, the problem being its not mainly 'home' players that make up the best teams.. so no real benefit for the national teams

How many 'home' players play outside of the PL?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 23, 2018, 11:21:52 AM
Anyway so Unai Emery is the new Arsenal Manager, only the 7th in my life time. Going by reports seems very technical and tactical, whereas I don't think Wenger was as bad tactically as some make out I think that Emery will bring an improvement in that regard. I expect he will supplement the squad with some players from Ligue 1 and La Liga particularly in the central defence and central midfield positions.

Anyway it's a new cartoon and I will look forward to the first games in August.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 23, 2018, 12:12:56 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 23, 2018, 10:10:41 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 23, 2018, 08:19:51 AM
Lads don't engage this clown. He'd fight with his shadow.

This is the typical way of discourse on GAABoard when someone is proven wrong and they don't have the ability to make a counterpoint, nor the balls to concede they were wrong.

You are special ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on May 24, 2018, 12:26:05 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 23, 2018, 11:21:52 AM
Anyway so Unai Emery is the new Arsenal Manager, only the 7th in my life time. Going by reports seems very technical and tactical, whereas I don't think Wenger was as bad tactically as some make out I think that Emery will bring an improvement in that regard. I expect he will supplement the squad with some players from Ligue 1 and La Liga particularly in the central defence and central midfield positions.

Anyway it's a new cartoon and I will look forward to the first games in August.

In terms of full time managers, I've only experienced:

Don Howe
George Graham
Bruce Rioch
Arsene Wenger
Unai Emery (about to)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Windmill abu on May 24, 2018, 04:12:53 PM
I am so old I can add Terry Neill and Bertie Lee to that list.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on May 24, 2018, 04:18:26 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on May 24, 2018, 04:12:53 PM
I am so old I can add Terry Neill and Bertie Lee to that list.

At least he's not Jewish.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Windmill abu on May 24, 2018, 04:35:13 PM
Why are you objecting to an Arsenal Manager being Jewish. You anti Semitic p***k.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on June 14, 2018, 10:00:49 AM
Tough start for new manager but could be ideal time to play City with a lot of their players at WC. Also the club seem to be very proactive in transfer market which is good to see and trying to get deals done quickly rather than haggle over every pound.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Syferus on June 14, 2018, 03:09:05 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 14, 2018, 10:00:49 AM
Tough start for new manager but could be ideal time to play City with a lot of their players at WC. Also the club seem to be very proactive in transfer market which is good to see and trying to get deals done quickly rather than haggle over every pound.

Ehh.. you're seeing so many moves early this year because it's a WC year and teams want their transfers done and not severely delayed by waiting till after it's over. Also in many cases there's the real fear their transfer targets may play well in the WC and hence jack up the price the parent club demands for them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: BennyHarp on June 14, 2018, 03:23:45 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 14, 2018, 03:09:05 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 14, 2018, 10:00:49 AM
Tough start for new manager but could be ideal time to play City with a lot of their players at WC. Also the club seem to be very proactive in transfer market which is good to see and trying to get deals done quickly rather than haggle over every pound.

Ehh.. you're seeing so many moves early this year because it's a WC year and teams want their transfers done and not severely delayed by waiting till after it's over. Also in many cases there's the real fear their transfer targets may play well in the WC and hence jack up the price the parent club demands for them.

And the transfer window shuts on August 9th before the season starts this year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on June 14, 2018, 03:53:56 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 14, 2018, 03:09:05 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 14, 2018, 10:00:49 AM
Tough start for new manager but could be ideal time to play City with a lot of their players at WC. Also the club seem to be very proactive in transfer market which is good to see and trying to get deals done quickly rather than haggle over every pound.

Ehh.. you're seeing so many moves early this year because it's a WC year and teams want their transfers done and not severely delayed by waiting till after it's over. Also in many cases there's the real fear their transfer targets may play well in the WC and hence jack up the price the parent club demands for them.

I meant the fact that Torreira has a 25 million release clause and Arsenal have paid 30.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: gerrykeegan on July 10, 2018, 09:39:24 PM
Lads looking for some help. The young lad has decided he is a gooner, I have tried to beat it out of him but to no avail. We are heading to London in October, would the trip to the Emirates be good for A 9 year old? If there is a match on (looks like Leicester) would I get tickets easy enough?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on July 10, 2018, 09:46:31 PM
Quote from: gerrykeegan on July 10, 2018, 09:39:24 PM
Lads looking for some help. The young lad has decided he is a gooner, I have tried to beat it out of him but to no avail. We are heading to London in October, would the trip to the Emirates be good for A 9 year old? If there is a match on (looks like Leicester) would I get tickets easy enough?

People do be selling their match day tickets but can be tough enough. Depends how new manager gets on. Try the @DublinArsenal handle on twitter, they may be able to help. Emirates is a lovely stadium with a huge shop your son would love. Also do a stadium tour.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: Boycey on July 10, 2018, 10:12:14 PM
Check DoneDeal>SportsTickets there's always Season tickets going there for individual games..  I checked very briefly there and there is an Arsenal one in 1st 3 or 4. Unfortunately ur game is gone.

Toutless will likely have some too
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on July 27, 2018, 04:59:19 PM
Smith Rowe looks like a huge talent and Guendouzi seems like a good signing. The Arsenal players seem to have bulked up a lot, even Cech.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on July 28, 2018, 08:24:25 AM
Guendouzi looked really good early on but when Atletico realised he was weak in the tackle they fairly exposed him. Definitely not a defensive midfielder at the minute.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on July 28, 2018, 02:21:33 PM
Another decent passing performance from Guendouzi. Still weak in the tackle. Aubameyang and Lacazette look fresh and lively in both games. Pressing game by Arsenal...and when they attack he seems to want to flood their half at speed. Plenty of speed down both wings - Bellerin and Auba on one side at times, Nelson on the other.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on July 28, 2018, 02:23:12 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 28, 2018, 02:21:33 PM
Another decent passing performance from Guendouzi. Still weak in the tackle. Aubameyang and Lacazette look fresh and lively in both games. Pressing game by Arsenal...and when they attack he seems to want to flood their half at speed. Plenty of speed down both wings - Bellerin and Auba on one side at times, Nelson on the other.

Smith Rowe impact again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on July 28, 2018, 02:28:32 PM
Some middlin goalkeeping from both PSG keepers today.

Emery completely different style to Arsene. Plays every ball standing on the sideline. Don't know if he's just helping to bed in a system and needs to do this or if it's his way.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: rodney trotter on July 28, 2018, 02:31:55 PM
It's what Arsenal needed. They were in their comfort zone under Wenger. He wants them to play high press, whether he can get Ozil to do that too, remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: ONeill on July 28, 2018, 02:35:11 PM
Dinny, we need a new thread title.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread aka Déjà vu
Post by: mrdeeds on July 28, 2018, 02:54:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 28, 2018, 02:28:32 PM
Some middlin goalkeeping from both PSG keepers today.

Emery completely different style to Arsene. Plays every ball standing on the sideline. Don't know if he's just helping to bed in a system and needs to do this or if it's his way.

Think he sits and his assistant is mental.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 30, 2018, 11:15:21 AM
Anyone going Wed night?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on July 30, 2018, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 30, 2018, 11:15:21 AM
Anyone going Wed night?

Yeah I am.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 30, 2018, 12:02:26 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 30, 2018, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 30, 2018, 11:15:21 AM
Anyone going Wed night?

Yeah I am.

I am in 2 minds, plenty of tickets available and I only work 10 mins away so probably leave it till Wed to decide.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on July 30, 2018, 09:19:39 PM
I'm in Wicklow so considering it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on August 07, 2018, 07:51:56 PM
Stan. Don't know if good or bad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Syferus on August 07, 2018, 07:57:58 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 07, 2018, 07:51:56 PM
Stan. Don't know if good or bad.

Very bad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2018, 09:43:46 AM
I didn't get to see any of Sunday's game....anything newish?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 15, 2018, 11:03:42 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 15, 2018, 09:43:46 AM
I didn't get to see any of Sunday's game....anything newish?

We dumped a 19 year old into midfield against City, Xhaka and Ramsey were taken off before him, he just about kept his head above water. He will be a good one. Lichtsteiner is a w**ker, really raised aggression levels when he came on and Lacazette not afraid to leave a foot in.

So definitely more physical, as season progresses can only see one of Ramsey, Ozil, Mkhitaryan starting away games and only 2 at home. They are too tippy tappy and wasteful in possession.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on August 15, 2018, 11:07:00 AM
Ramsey played very far forward. More or less a striker. Emery wants to play out from keeper which Cech will struggle with. Torreira and Lacazette made difference when came on so expect them to start Saturday with Aubameyang out wide. Lichsteiner shut Marhez down by pure aggression and should probably start.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Ambrose on August 24, 2018, 02:20:06 PM
Spurs goalkeeper Hugo Lloris has picked up more points than the Gunners this season.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on August 24, 2018, 02:42:11 PM
Quote from: Ambrose on August 24, 2018, 02:20:06 PM
Spurs goalkeeper Hugo Lloris has picked up more points than the Gunners this season.  ;D

I'd imagine he'll lose his licence rather than pick up points.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Syferus on August 24, 2018, 06:07:01 PM
#WengerOu.. oh, wait.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Denn Forever on August 25, 2018, 11:43:10 AM
Arsenal win in 2018....... Oh wait, that's Arsene Wenger,

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/24/africa/arsene-wenger-receive-liberia-honor/index.html
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Puckoon on August 25, 2018, 04:43:12 PM
Far from convincing against a poor WH defence
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Insane Bolt on August 25, 2018, 05:25:50 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on August 25, 2018, 04:43:12 PM
Far from convincing against a poor WH defence

Take it all day long😜
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on August 25, 2018, 05:37:20 PM
CBs are disastrous.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Puckoon on August 25, 2018, 05:41:45 PM
6th place, at best?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on August 25, 2018, 09:24:18 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 25, 2018, 05:37:20 PM
CBs are disastrous.

They're playing very high. So vulnerable on counter. Missing pace on wings. Bellerin being left exposed. Not a lot changed defensively. Torreira and Lacazette need to start.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on October 07, 2018, 01:49:39 PM
Whisper it quietly but we're actually ok at football again.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on October 14, 2018, 10:43:31 PM
It has been refreshing. Players are actually working hard. Still a very dodgy defence but not his players yet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on October 14, 2018, 11:29:39 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 14, 2018, 10:43:31 PM
It has been refreshing. Players are actually working hard. Still a very dodgy defence but not his players yet.

Big game shortly v Pool. In the past when things were looking positive Arsenal were caught out when they came up against the big teams.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Syferus on October 15, 2018, 01:24:44 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 07, 2018, 01:49:39 PM
Whisper it quietly but we're actually ok at football again.

You're pretty much where you were last year and the year before. You'd swear Wenger has persided over successive relegations if you listened to Arsenal TV GAABoard Branch and not the actual tables.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on October 15, 2018, 06:51:49 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 15, 2018, 01:24:44 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 07, 2018, 01:49:39 PM
Whisper it quietly but we're actually ok at football again.

You're pretty much where you were last year and the year before. You'd swear Wenger has persided over successive relegations if you listened to Arsenal TV GAABoard Branch and not the actual tables.

Time will tell!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 15, 2018, 07:40:15 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 15, 2018, 01:24:44 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 07, 2018, 01:49:39 PM
Whisper it quietly but we're actually ok at football again.

You're pretty much where you were last year and the year before. You'd swear Wenger has persided over successive relegations if you listened to Arsenal TV GAABoard Branch and not the actual tables.

And the year before that, and before that etc
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on October 15, 2018, 07:55:14 AM
Quote from: Syferus on October 15, 2018, 01:24:44 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 07, 2018, 01:49:39 PM
Whisper it quietly but we're actually ok at football again.

You're pretty much where you were last year and the year before. You'd swear Wenger has persided over successive relegations if you listened to Arsenal TV GAABoard Branch and not the actual tables.

We barely won an away match last year. Already have 60% of  last years away goals this season. Iwobi, Welbeck, Bellerin, all playing better. Won 9 on the trot. First time since 2015. Long way  away from last season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: billy the kid on October 16, 2018, 02:03:37 AM
Its early days but def looking more of a team than last year. New signings have made a difference and the fixtures have been very kind regarding the run we are on but progress seems to have been made. Playing Liverpool will be a huge challenge. Getting into top 4 the target.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: rodney trotter on October 22, 2018, 09:25:27 PM
Arsenal playing some class football tonight.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on October 22, 2018, 11:20:05 PM
Ozil wow.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: tyroneman on October 23, 2018, 08:28:12 AM
Arsenal really seem to be a team of two halves.

If the Ref (as he should have) gives a penalty and second yellow it would be hard seeing any form of comeback.

One lucky escape later and it's welcome to the Ozil show in the next 45...

Funny old game.

*as ever we still need to see Arsenal v MU, LFC, MC, CFC, TH to gauge where they are really at...but at least they are currently dealing with the mediocre well enough (eventually)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: blewuporstuffed on October 23, 2018, 08:33:00 AM
Wonderful one touch football for that 3rd goal.
Goal of the season so far.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on October 23, 2018, 09:47:54 AM
Fairly refreshing. Compare to this time last year...scored more, conceded less, 5 points more, 10 wins in a row. Been a while since you felt good about them.

Still vulnerable at the back but the pace to get the ball into the box means they're creating so many chances. Think they had 20 attempts last night. The most pleasing thing is the work rate.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Armamike on October 23, 2018, 12:49:10 PM
Beautiful goal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 08, 2018, 08:56:31 PM
Looks like a broken ankle for Welbeck.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on November 08, 2018, 09:26:12 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on November 08, 2018, 08:56:31 PM
Looks like a broken ankle for Welbeck.

Maybe broke and dislocated.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: laoislad on December 02, 2018, 03:45:25 PM
Great game so far.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on December 02, 2018, 04:23:47 PM
A long long time since we've seen passion like that from players and supporters.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Cunny Funt on December 02, 2018, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 02, 2018, 04:23:47 PM
A long long time since we've seen passion like that from players and supporters.

More evidence if ever needed that Wenger was kept on too long. Arsenal should beat United on Wednesday night also i wouldn't be surprise if they score another 4 goal against what will be a patched up United defence.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Syferus on December 02, 2018, 05:45:17 PM
It's truly a new day for Arsenal

4th
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on December 02, 2018, 07:18:43 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on December 02, 2018, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 02, 2018, 04:23:47 PM
A long long time since we've seen passion like that from players and supporters.

More evidence if ever needed that Wenger was kept on too long. Arsenal should beat United on Wednesday night also i wouldn't be surprise if they score another 4 goal against what will be a patched up United defence.

Utd at Old Trafford a bogey team. Torreira has being signing of the season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Puckoon on December 02, 2018, 07:59:16 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 02, 2018, 04:23:47 PM
A long long time since we've seen passion like that from players and supporters.

Different feeling time!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on December 02, 2018, 08:16:50 PM
What are your thoughts on Ramsey?

I'm a big fan. Things seem to happen when he's on the field. But lads more knowledgeable than me on the matter detest him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on December 02, 2018, 08:20:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 02, 2018, 08:16:50 PM
What are your thoughts on Ramsey?

I'm a big fan. Things seem to happen when he's on the field. But lads more knowledgeable than me on the matter detest him.

Brilliant today but often slows things down and over complicates stuff. I'd love to keep him but not on crazy money he looking for.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 05, 2018, 10:54:19 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 02, 2018, 08:20:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 02, 2018, 08:16:50 PM
What are your thoughts on Ramsey?

I'm a big fan. Things seem to happen when he's on the field. But lads more knowledgeable than me on the matter detest him.

Brilliant today but often slows things down and over complicates stuff. I'd love to keep him but not on crazy money he looking for.

+1

Haven't an enjoyed an Arsenal match as much in years. Attitude is everything and the players had it in abundance today. Emery is looking like an astute appointment so far. Love his tactical switches.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 05, 2018, 11:01:39 AM
QuoteOur team is full of bastards now and it's great. Torreira, the humble Latin bastard, alongside Xhaka, the handsome bastard. Sokratis the hard man bastard, Guendouzi the young bastard, and of course Lichtsteiner, the bastard's bastard. I love them all

Missed Arsenal's Bastard side, good to have it back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Saffronista on December 05, 2018, 11:21:45 AM
Looking forward to tonights game for a change, Sunday was a massive confidence booster. Great to see some passion back in the side. Jose will have united fired up and if they get an early goal we might struggle to break them down. I'll take a draw but that would be disappointing on current form of both sides.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 05, 2018, 11:37:47 AM
Quote from: Saffronista on December 05, 2018, 11:21:45 AM
Looking forward to tonights game for a change, Sunday was a massive confidence booster. Great to see some passion back in the side. Jose will have united fired up and if they get an early goal we might struggle to break them down. I'll take a draw but that would be disappointing on current form of both sides.

Bit of a bogey ground so a draw would be a very good result.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: rodney trotter on December 05, 2018, 12:59:52 PM
Wenger took a lot of slack in his final few years, But lacazette and Aubemyang were 2 excellent signings. Arsenal were always creating chances since Van Persie left  but not clinical enough. There was other areas he didn't really fix though   that Emery has  like in midfield with Torreria..

First time since 86 Ferguson or Wenger weren't involved in the fixture
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Puckoon on December 06, 2018, 03:39:12 AM
2-2 draw while not playing very well, with a young team and Iwobi. He drives me bananas some times, for all his quickness of feet he often belabors the ball, or just hoofs it against the first defender in his way.

Really liked the look of the Guendouzi lad this evening. Showed for every ball he could and think he was a fantastic presence in the middle of the field.

Mickey Targaryen should have scored at the end, and the one he did ping in from the end line was some rattle.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Saffronista on December 06, 2018, 04:17:04 PM
Quote from: Saffronista on December 05, 2018, 11:21:45 AM
Looking forward to tonights game for a change, Sunday was a massive confidence booster. Great to see some passion back in the side. Jose will have united fired up and if they get an early goal we might struggle to break them down. I'll take a draw but that would be disappointing on current form of both sides.

Disappointed today. 2 poor goals gifted to a very average United side. Sunday cobwebs were on display in first half. Second half we bossed things. Guendozi is a class act, so confident on the ball. Still unbeaten in 20 with a creeking defence. Any word of Monreal returning? Badly miss him, Kolasinac not in the same class defensively or going forward.

Onto the Saints this weekend and 3points
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 06, 2018, 04:45:32 PM
Quote from: Saffronista on December 06, 2018, 04:17:04 PM
Quote from: Saffronista on December 05, 2018, 11:21:45 AM
Looking forward to tonights game for a change, Sunday was a massive confidence booster. Great to see some passion back in the side. Jose will have united fired up and if they get an early goal we might struggle to break them down. I'll take a draw but that would be disappointing on current form of both sides.

Disappointed today. 2 poor goals gifted to a very average United side. Sunday cobwebs were on display in first half. Second half we bossed things. Guendozi is a class act, so confident on the ball. Still unbeaten in 20 with a creeking defence. Any word of Monreal returning? Badly miss him, Kolasinac not in the same class defensively or going forward.

Onto the Saints this weekend and 3points

In fairness the two goals Arsenal got was probably bigger gifts. How did you make out Arsenal bossed things second half? they only had the lead for about 30 seconds in the second half and that second goal for Arsenal came at a stage when they weren't even creating chances. Arsenal pushed for the winner late on alright and DeGea somewhat made up for his earlier error. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on December 06, 2018, 05:38:32 PM
I know what you mean by Guendouzi but he makes me nervous. He's so supremely confident on the ball that he'll try to dribble his way out of his own box and can be easily knocked off the ball.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Syferus on December 16, 2018, 03:20:52 PM
Brave new Arsenal my arse.

This new era has been complete media hype. Arsenal are exactly where they were last year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on December 17, 2018, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 16, 2018, 03:20:52 PM
Brave new Arsenal my arse.

This new era has been complete media hype. Arsenal are exactly where they were last year.

No they're not.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Syferus on December 17, 2018, 06:29:35 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 17, 2018, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 16, 2018, 03:20:52 PM
Brave new Arsenal my arse.

This new era has been complete media hype. Arsenal are exactly where they were last year.

No they're not.

Arsenal were four points off fourth at Christmas last year.

They're three points off fourth this year.

Facts are tough bástards for the Wenger OUT crowd to get around.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on December 28, 2018, 08:56:55 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 17, 2018, 06:29:35 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 17, 2018, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 16, 2018, 03:20:52 PM
Brave new Arsenal my arse.

This new era has been complete media hype. Arsenal are exactly where they were last year.

No they're not.

Arsenal were four points off fourth at Christmas last year.

They're three points off fourth this year.

Facts are tough bástards for the Wenger OUT crowd to get around.

I wasn't a WOB but Arsenal have nearly as many away points as last season already. Club had gone stale. This is in spite of Emery being given very few funds and a major defensive injury crisis.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2018, 06:21:37 PM
Happy enough with that. Same again and get out with 8-2.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Puckoon on December 29, 2018, 06:24:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 29, 2018, 06:21:37 PM
Happy enough with that. Same again and get out with 8-2.

:D ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: laoislad on December 29, 2018, 06:33:17 PM
Arshavin to come on and score 4.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on December 29, 2018, 07:19:14 PM
Need to invest in the defence. Probably about a 100 million.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2018, 11:06:21 PM
Leftover of the Wenger era. Whole defence needs ripped out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Syferus on December 30, 2018, 02:53:19 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 29, 2018, 11:06:21 PM
Leftover of the Wenger era. Whole defence needs ripped out.

They've already brought in a keeper, two defenders and a CDM since Wenger left so that's nonsense.

Wenger was not the problem. It's Arsenal itself that is. The paper tiger that was this 'run' under Emery has been completely exposed now. Arsenal are exactly where they were under Wenger last year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on December 31, 2018, 06:22:57 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

Never ceases to amuse me.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on January 03, 2019, 10:00:40 PM
INVINCIBLES!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Main Street on January 05, 2019, 10:50:08 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 29, 2018, 07:19:14 PM
Need to invest in the defence. Probably about a 100 million.
Wenger was allowed on average a net spend of £20m p/a for each of his last 4 seasons. Emery has already spent £70m and he's just about keeping pace with Wenger's worst ever season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on February 28, 2019, 09:19:31 AM
11 points better of than last season at this stage but Arsenal haven't improved since Wenger.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: screenexile on February 28, 2019, 09:27:16 AM
Quote from: Main Street on January 05, 2019, 10:50:08 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 29, 2018, 07:19:14 PM
Need to invest in the defence. Probably about a 100 million.
Wenger was allowed on average a net spend of £20m p/a for each of his last 4 seasons. Emery has already spent £70m and he's just about keeping pace with Wenger's worst ever season.

I think the Premier League has improved massively from Wengers last 10 years to now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2019, 09:40:25 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 28, 2019, 09:19:31 AM
11 points better of than last season at this stage but Arsenal haven't improved since Wenger.

Under what barometer?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on February 28, 2019, 10:02:49 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 28, 2019, 09:40:25 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 28, 2019, 09:19:31 AM
11 points better of than last season at this stage but Arsenal haven't improved since Wenger.

Under what barometer?

Was being sarcastic. A response to Syferus who believes Arsenal are exactly where they were under Wenger.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 01, 2019, 10:09:00 AM
My sarcasm detector must have malfunctioned...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Denn Forever on March 01, 2019, 11:51:46 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on February 28, 2019, 09:19:31 AM
11 points better of than last season at this stage but Arsenal haven't improved since Wenger[/b]?

Maybe  this might have helped Dinny's sarcasm detector
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on March 02, 2019, 02:34:40 PM
Fcuk sake. Feels like a loss. He never looked like he'd score that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on March 02, 2019, 03:40:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 02, 2019, 02:34:40 PM
Fcuk sake. Feels like a loss. He never looked like he'd score that.

Lots to be positive about though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 04, 2019, 10:08:23 AM
Yep should have won but that's Spurs done for a few years now, new stadium debt will cripple them.

Arsenal need to replace Ramsey and Ozil in the summer and invest in a a right back and two more centre backs. The nucleus of a good team is there, certainly top 4 but lack the depth of a Man U or Man City. Funny enough Arsenal and paper wouldn't be that far behind Liverpool's best team.

Mustafi should just be put down, it's the humane thing to do.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 08, 2019, 08:53:29 AM
Lack of depth killing Arsenal, incapable of putting in back to back away performances.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on March 10, 2019, 06:59:27 PM
Great result. Emery very flexible tactically. Top 4 is tight now. Two into four.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: laoislad on March 10, 2019, 08:31:06 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/2sporten/status/1104810883472072704
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Puckoon on April 01, 2019, 08:51:53 PM
Table stays as it is right now, Arsenal up into 3rd.. That would be a phenomenal achievement this year if they can finish in 3rd.

Ramsey will be a loss, but makes sense from a business perspective. Still playing his heart out - nice change compared to some of the sharks we've given shirts to over the years.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Never beat the deeler on April 02, 2019, 12:10:10 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on April 01, 2019, 08:51:53 PM
Table stays as it is right now, Arsenal up into 3rd.. That would be a phenomenal achievement this year if they can finish in 3rd.

Ramsey will be a loss, but makes sense from a business perspective. Still playing his heart out - nice change compared to some of the sharks we've given shirts to over the years.

Arsenal have a really nice run-in. Their next 5 games are against comfortable mid-table teams who don't really have a lot to play for.
Everton (9), Watford (10) Palace (13, not quite safe but might be), Wolves (7) & Leicester (8)
Last two games are against Brighton (currently 15) & Burnley (currently 17). Their fates could be sorted before these games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on April 02, 2019, 08:25:58 AM
Only thing is need to improve away form. Already equalled last seasons points total. Emery has done a great job.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 02, 2019, 08:46:38 AM
A couple of decent defenders and midfielder and Arsenal aren't a million miles away.

Bar that blip I think Emery has done pretty well. Guendouzi has to be in contention for young player of the year!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on April 28, 2019, 08:15:33 PM
Congratulations to Arsenal women on winning the league. I know they pop in here for a read so well done to all of you.

Great day for Gooners everywhere.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 30, 2019, 12:13:24 PM
Stupid Arsenal! Stupid Sport!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 30, 2019, 12:20:27 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 30, 2019, 12:13:24 PM
Stupid Arsenal! Stupid Sport!

We will do our best on Saturday night to ease your pain....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: From the Bunker on May 30, 2019, 12:21:10 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 30, 2019, 12:13:24 PM
Stupid Arsenal! Stupid Sport!

Did you only find out the result now?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 30, 2019, 02:57:46 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 30, 2019, 12:20:27 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 30, 2019, 12:13:24 PM
Stupid Arsenal! Stupid Sport!

We will do our best on Saturday night to ease your pain....


Small mercies...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 30, 2019, 02:58:54 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 30, 2019, 12:21:10 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on May 30, 2019, 12:13:24 PM
Stupid Arsenal! Stupid Sport!

Did you only find out the result now?

It was hard to process, it was the old poster Muppet that I always felt sorry for, an Arsenal and a Mayo fan..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: laoislad on June 01, 2019, 12:14:00 PM
Just read that Jose Antonio Reyes was killed in a car crash today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: imtommygunn on June 01, 2019, 01:42:26 PM
Just read that. At 35 :( rip. He was great for a while for Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Over the Bar on June 01, 2019, 01:47:54 PM
RIP.  Can't believe still only 35.  Tragic for his family
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 01, 2019, 02:28:22 PM
Very sad news. He was an invincible!!!!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Boycey on June 01, 2019, 10:48:37 PM
Burst on the scene as a young lad at Arsenal and looked as though he was gonna be a great. It never really happened but had a good career all the same. Sad.. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on June 06, 2019, 12:38:30 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 01, 2019, 12:14:00 PM
Just read that Jose Antonio Reyes was killed in a car crash today.

Unpopular opinion of the day but he was doing 135mph according to police reports, so he hadn't much regard for life including his own.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48527028 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48527028)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: From the Bunker on June 06, 2019, 12:44:20 PM
Quote from: trailer on June 06, 2019, 12:38:30 PM
Quote from: laoislad on June 01, 2019, 12:14:00 PM
Just read that Jose Antonio Reyes was killed in a car crash today.

Unpopular opinion of the day but he was doing 135mph according to police reports, so he hadn't much regard for life including his own.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48527028 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48527028)

Feck, that is nearly 220km an hour!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on July 30, 2019, 02:12:41 PM
Summer transfer business has been good. If Tierney and a centre half is done then could be a big season ahead.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: gawa316 on July 30, 2019, 04:48:42 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 30, 2019, 02:12:41 PM
Summer transfer business has been good. If Tierney and a centre half is done then could be a big season ahead.

What centre half are they after?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: oliverkelly on July 30, 2019, 05:17:21 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on July 30, 2019, 04:48:42 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 30, 2019, 02:12:41 PM
Summer transfer business has been good. If Tierney and a centre half is done then could be a big season ahead.

What centre half are they after?

Linked with Rugani and Umtiti in recent days
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on July 31, 2019, 05:29:44 PM
Fairly top-heavy alright. Still lacking a quality midfielder and a defence.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on July 31, 2019, 09:03:17 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 31, 2019, 05:29:44 PM
Fairly top-heavy alright. Still lacking a quality midfielder and a defence.

Ceballos looks the part. Torreira and Guendouzi a year older. If Holding and Bellerin back early then defence largely solved but need one more centre half. The age profile has come down and a lot of talented youngsters coming through. Just need rid of Mustafi.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: tyroneman on August 01, 2019, 12:32:41 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on July 31, 2019, 09:03:17 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 31, 2019, 05:29:44 PM
Fairly top-heavy alright. Still lacking a quality midfielder and a defence.

Ceballos looks the part. Torreira and Guendouzi a year older. If Holding and Bellerin back early then defence largely solved but need one more centre half. The age profile has come down and a lot of talented youngsters coming through. Just need rid of Mustafi.

That's optimistic alright.....Arsenal need to sign KT (or another quality LB), Bellerin is just ok,  good attacking, average defending. Holding might come good, but to really challenge for the top 4 and the league itself they need 2x proven, EPL ready, top class CHs.......and have done for over a decade.   

The rest of the business = great.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - The Empire Strikes Back
Post by: mrdeeds on August 08, 2019, 10:56:53 AM
Luiz and Tierney it is unless there's a surprise.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - The Empire Strikes Back
Post by: ONeill on August 08, 2019, 08:12:16 PM
Interesting.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - The Empire Strikes Back
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 08, 2019, 11:26:02 PM
Mad
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - The Empire Strikes Back
Post by: gawa316 on October 27, 2019, 09:40:20 PM
Xhaka got a nice reception when being subbed today...be interesting to see how that works out
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - The Empire Strikes Back
Post by: mrdeeds on October 27, 2019, 10:01:37 PM
Hopefully him and Emery are finished.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - The Empire Strikes Back
Post by: marty34 on October 27, 2019, 10:10:39 PM
How is Tierney going?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - The Empire Strikes Back
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2019, 12:15:34 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 27, 2019, 10:10:39 PM
How is Tierney going?

Only just back from injury, looks good in the Europa League, only one PL start so too early to tell.

Arsenal is a bloody soap opera at the moment, all of their own doing. Playing sh*t, rudderless football to make it worse.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: oliverkelly on October 30, 2019, 01:29:13 PM
Emery is a joke should never have got the job and has been a disgrace since taking over.  The sooner he is gone the better.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: mrdeeds on October 30, 2019, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on October 30, 2019, 01:29:13 PM
Emery is a joke should never have got the job and has been a disgrace since taking over.  The sooner he is gone the better.

A lot of talk about Jose.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2019, 01:53:33 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 30, 2019, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on October 30, 2019, 01:29:13 PM
Emery is a joke should never have got the job and has been a disgrace since taking over.  The sooner he is gone the better.

A lot of talk about Jose.

I would cry.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: oliverkelly on October 30, 2019, 02:12:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2019, 01:53:33 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 30, 2019, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on October 30, 2019, 01:29:13 PM
Emery is a joke should never have got the job and has been a disgrace since taking over.  The sooner he is gone the better.

A lot of talk about Jose.

I would cry.

Dont like Jose and used to slag all my mates when he was United manager but i would nearly take Big effin Sam at this stage over Emery. The football is shocking bad to watch it wouldnt be any worse under Jose and he would tighten up the defense. Honestly anything is better than what we currently have. All our league wins this season have been flukes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: lurganblue on October 30, 2019, 02:17:54 PM
Saw on twitter PEA was getting a little abuse from some "fans" while driving his flashy car through London.  What has this lad done to deserve abuse? surely he's about the only player who can hold their head up high.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: mrdeeds on October 30, 2019, 02:23:46 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on October 30, 2019, 02:17:54 PM
Saw on twitter PEA was getting a little abuse from some "fans" while driving his flashy car through London.  What has this lad done to deserve abuse? surely he's about the only player who can hold their head up high.

It was a well known Arsenal fan who abuses players if they don't sign merchandise which she sells online. A header.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: lurganblue on October 30, 2019, 02:28:57 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 30, 2019, 02:23:46 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on October 30, 2019, 02:17:54 PM
Saw on twitter PEA was getting a little abuse from some "fans" while driving his flashy car through London.  What has this lad done to deserve abuse? surely he's about the only player who can hold their head up high.

It was a well known Arsenal fan who abuses players if they don't sign merchandise which she sells online. A header.

ah right ok
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: topofthesoil on October 30, 2019, 02:29:14 PM
Emery needs more time. Big game tonight, how do yous posters think it will go. Can see Ozil proving his worth if he starts.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: mrdeeds on October 30, 2019, 03:06:36 PM
Quote from: topofthesoil on October 30, 2019, 02:29:14 PM
Emery needs more time. Big game tonight, how do yous posters think it will go. Can see Ozil proving his worth if he starts.

Can't see Ozil having any impact as he is rusty and Arsenal won't have much possession. Emery will then say he right not to play him
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: lurganblue on October 30, 2019, 03:57:30 PM
Quote from: topofthesoil on October 30, 2019, 02:29:14 PM
Emery needs more time. Big game tonight, how do yous posters think it will go. Can see Ozil proving his worth if he starts.

Why are people suddenly thinking that Ozil is the answer, despite him being completely muck for a number of years now?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 30, 2019, 04:07:48 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on October 30, 2019, 02:12:00 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on October 30, 2019, 01:53:33 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 30, 2019, 01:51:53 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on October 30, 2019, 01:29:13 PM
Emery is a joke should never have got the job and has been a disgrace since taking over.  The sooner he is gone the better.

A lot of talk about Jose.

I would cry.

Dont like Jose and used to slag all my mates when he was United manager but i would nearly take Big effin Sam at this stage over Emery. The football is shocking bad to watch it wouldnt be any worse under Jose and he would tighten up the defense. Honestly anything is better than what we currently have. All our league wins this season have been flukes.

Jose in the last few months as United manager were shocking to watch and awful in defence. He seemed totally lost when Rui Faria left.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: laoislad on October 30, 2019, 05:05:50 PM
Quote from: topofthesoil on October 30, 2019, 02:29:14 PM
Emery needs more time. Big game tonight, how do yous posters think it will go. Can see Ozil proving his worth if he starts.
Big game for Arsenal maybe but Liverpool will have most of the kids playing tonight.
Is it on TV?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: mrdeeds on October 30, 2019, 06:32:53 PM
Quote from: topofthesoil on October 30, 2019, 02:29:14 PM
Emery needs more time. Big game tonight, how do yous posters think it will go. Can see Ozil proving his worth if he starts.

Just on Emery needs more time.

He's had 15 months and there is no sign of improvement. The football is awful. There is no sign of a certain style of play. Goal difference is plus 1 this season. Defence has not improved. Had a vote for captain. Playing Torreira in number 10 role and no Ozil in squad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: gawa316 on October 30, 2019, 06:37:27 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 30, 2019, 06:32:53 PM
Quote from: topofthesoil on October 30, 2019, 02:29:14 PM
Emery needs more time. Big game tonight, how do yous posters think it will go. Can see Ozil proving his worth if he starts.

Just on Emery needs more time.

He's had 15 months and there is no sign of improvement. The football is awful. There is no sign of a certain style of play. Goal difference is plus 1 this season. Defence has not improved. Had a vote for captain. Playing Torreira in number 10 role and no Ozil in squad.

He's back in tonight
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2019, 09:02:21 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 30, 2019, 07:39:02 PM
Wtf was that?

Are they playing fly nets tonight?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: mrdeeds on October 30, 2019, 09:56:59 PM
Ozil class and he takes him off. Twice leading by two and still can't see game out. Maybe Mourinho is not so bad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: topofthesoil on October 31, 2019, 02:33:56 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 30, 2019, 03:06:36 PM
Quote from: topofthesoil on October 30, 2019, 02:29:14 PM
Emery needs more time. Big game tonight, how do yous posters think it will go. Can see Ozil proving his worth if he starts.

Can't see Ozil having any impact as he is rusty and Arsenal won't have much possession. Emery will then say he right not to play him

i am mystic. Never not been right before
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2019, 02:35:36 PM
Quote from: topofthesoil on October 31, 2019, 02:33:56 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on October 30, 2019, 03:06:36 PM
Quote from: topofthesoil on October 30, 2019, 02:29:14 PM
Emery needs more time. Big game tonight, how do yous posters think it will go. Can see Ozil proving his worth if he starts.

Can't see Ozil having any impact as he is rusty and Arsenal won't have much possession. Emery will then say he right not to play him

i am mystic. Never not been right before

I see Arsenal will be back in the Cup, they play Villa next, according to Klopp... ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: ONeill on November 02, 2019, 08:06:12 PM
I think it's time to admit he's not up to it, as in getting the side playing decent football and more competitive.

Seems to be that the players think he's a dick too.

At least not the braindead monotony of late Wenger but time to say thanks, next up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: Jim Bob on November 02, 2019, 08:58:41 PM
I would take Mourinino at this stage. He ll get us into the champions league this season, be ok next season and fall out all around him at the start of the following season and get the road. But he d be better than what we have at the moment
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: topofthesoil on November 05, 2019, 11:24:33 AM
so whos buying the 'BRING WENGER BACK' banner?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: lurganblue on November 29, 2019, 10:18:54 AM
Sacked! Poch in next?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: GetOverTheBar on November 29, 2019, 10:28:54 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 29, 2019, 10:18:54 AM
Sacked! Poch in next?

Would it be the biggest managerial shock of all time if Poch went? He might be that f'ed off with Spurs to do it....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: Maroon Manc on November 29, 2019, 10:38:30 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on November 29, 2019, 10:28:54 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 29, 2019, 10:18:54 AM
Sacked! Poch in next?

Would it be the biggest managerial shock of all time if Poch went? He might be that f'ed off with Spurs to do it....

I'd be amazed, far more attractive jobs will come available in next 6 months.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: oliverkelly on November 29, 2019, 12:20:25 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on November 29, 2019, 10:38:30 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on November 29, 2019, 10:28:54 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 29, 2019, 10:18:54 AM
Sacked! Poch in next?

Would it be the biggest managerial shock of all time if Poch went? He might be that f'ed off with Spurs to do it....

I'd be amazed, far more attractive jobs will come available in next 6 months.

Not sure about that, Poch has said he would never manage Barca. United are dogshite and Arsenal have a better squad and better facilities than them. Only other better job would be the current Bayern opening or maybe Mdraid
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: trailer on November 29, 2019, 12:49:17 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on November 29, 2019, 12:20:25 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on November 29, 2019, 10:38:30 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on November 29, 2019, 10:28:54 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 29, 2019, 10:18:54 AM
Sacked! Poch in next?

Would it be the biggest managerial shock of all time if Poch went? He might be that f'ed off with Spurs to do it....

I'd be amazed, far more attractive jobs will come available in next 6 months.

Not sure about that, Poch has said he would never manage Barca. United are dogshite and Arsenal have a better squad and better facilities than them. Only other better job would be the current Bayern opening or maybe Mdraid

No one is taking the Arsenal job over the Utd one. No matter about squads or facilities (all subjective btw). There's no vacancy at Utd being the difference at the minute. Any top class manager who would be offered both, picks the Utd job everyday and twice on a Sunday.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: Maroon Manc on November 29, 2019, 12:57:12 PM
Quote from: oliverkelly on November 29, 2019, 12:20:25 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on November 29, 2019, 10:38:30 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on November 29, 2019, 10:28:54 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 29, 2019, 10:18:54 AM
Sacked! Poch in next?

Would it be the biggest managerial shock of all time if Poch went? He might be that f'ed off with Spurs to do it....

I'd be amazed, far more attractive jobs will come available in next 6 months.

Not sure about that, Poch has said he would never manage Barca. United are dogshite and Arsenal have a better squad and better facilities than them. Only other better job would be the current Bayern opening or maybe Mdraid

There's nobody apart from an Arsenal fan who's picking the Arsenal job over United. Arsenal's & United's squad are much of the same, Arsenal have an issue at the back whilst United have issues in midfield. Arsenal have very little to spend going forward and if they don't make top 4 or win the Europa League their in big trouble. The don't have too many players who can generate big transfer fees either given the front 2's ages.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: Main Street on November 29, 2019, 02:36:03 PM
It was a tough ask for a manager to take over after Wenger, one of the all time great manager/coaches and football personalities.

Which club would Mourinho have chosen if offered the choice, Spurs or Arsenal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: screenexile on November 29, 2019, 03:09:38 PM
(https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/12/02/09/andrew-sachs.jpg?w968h681)

Alguien me esta buscando?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: lurganblue on November 29, 2019, 03:24:46 PM
Freddie Ljungberg is being touted about.  Is that showing ambition? or would that only be an interim thing?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: johnnycool on November 29, 2019, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 29, 2019, 03:24:46 PM
Freddie Ljungberg is being touted about.  Is that showing ambition? or would that only be an interim thing?

Where's Pat Rice when you need him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 29, 2019, 03:34:30 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 29, 2019, 10:18:54 AM
Sacked! Poch in next?

Loads of money placed on Allegri and is now the favourite at 13/8.  A much better option than the sacked Tottenham manager who probably wasn't in the running to replace Emery.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: rodney trotter on November 30, 2019, 11:58:51 AM
It's said Allegri wants to wait until end of season, instead of taking over a Club during the season. He speaks very little English too.

Brendan Rogers would be a good choice. He would probaly be better to stay with Leicester and try and get them in CL. Nuno Santo suppose to be interested. He's done a good job at Wolves
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 30, 2019, 08:33:56 PM
Any odds on Jim Gavin?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: ONeill on December 06, 2019, 09:11:43 PM
Still not as bad as George Graham's last few months.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: mrdeeds on December 06, 2019, 11:02:02 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 06, 2019, 09:11:43 PM
Still not as bad as George Graham's last few months.

Still won a Cup Winners Cup. This is the worst I remember.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: ONeill on December 06, 2019, 11:11:36 PM
Arsenal never really addressed why Wenger was losing 4, 5, 6 and 8 goals to top sides regularly.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: mrdeeds on December 07, 2019, 12:04:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 06, 2019, 11:11:36 PM
Arsenal never really addressed why Wenger was losing 4, 5, 6 and 8 goals to top sides regularly.

It has to be a mentality and coaching issue. Luiz looks nowhere near as assured as he did at Chelsea.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: Denn Forever on December 07, 2019, 12:37:16 PM
Never found Luis's best position. Not discipled enough for Center half, Midfield prone to go Awol but good at free kicks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: rodney trotter on December 10, 2019, 11:39:17 PM
Ancelotti sacked after guiding Napoli into last 16. Poor form in the League. He'll probaly come into the equation for Arsenal.
He might be too laid back to get Arsenal back firing.  They complained about his training methods at Munich, same Napoli.










Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: mrdeeds on December 16, 2019, 12:42:28 PM
Looks like Arteta is getting the job. Needs to be sorted quickly. The team doctor was helping with football end yesterday. Per doing two jobs. Shambles. Need a backroom team quick too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: Windmill abu on December 20, 2019, 04:36:23 PM
Arteta confirmed as new head coach.
Is he too inexperienced or will he, as he says, bring fast flowing football all Arsenal fans want?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: ONeill on December 20, 2019, 04:43:12 PM
I hope the senior players give him a bit of respect. And I hope he fcuks out anyone who doesn't.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: mrdeeds on December 20, 2019, 08:44:10 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 20, 2019, 04:43:12 PM
I hope the senior players give him a bit of respect. And I hope he fcuks out anyone who doesn't.

There was talk when he was captain he was very strict so could be good. His press conference was very impressive.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: mrdeeds on January 01, 2020, 11:37:15 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 20, 2019, 08:44:10 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 20, 2019, 04:43:12 PM
I hope the senior players give him a bit of respect. And I hope he fcuks out anyone who doesn't.

There was talk when he was captain he was very strict so could be good. His press conference was very impressive.

Like what I see already.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Attack of the Clones
Post by: oliverkelly on January 02, 2020, 10:59:01 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 01, 2020, 11:37:15 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on December 20, 2019, 08:44:10 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 20, 2019, 04:43:12 PM
I hope the senior players give him a bit of respect. And I hope he fcuks out anyone who doesn't.

There was talk when he was captain he was very strict so could be good. His press conference was very impressive.

Like what I see already.

Yeah said after watching game against Chelsea Arteta would be good. Excellent last night.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: mrdeeds on January 02, 2020, 11:14:44 AM
Just need to get the 0players fitter.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on January 02, 2020, 05:40:42 PM
I still think he'll gas a right few of these players. Not many have much beyond the average professional footballer's skill level.

But at least Arteta should make them a top 8 side before the end of the season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Rudi on January 06, 2020, 09:48:20 PM
Guendouzi played well tonight. Was my mom although Lacazette got it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: mrdeeds on January 06, 2020, 11:04:35 PM
Quote from: Rudi on January 06, 2020, 09:48:20 PM
Guendouzi played well tonight. Was my mom although Lacazette got it.

Thought he was poor in first half positionally. Improved big time after.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on January 22, 2020, 10:58:04 AM
Have to laugh at the fawning over Martinelli's goal. It was his horrendous touch that made Kante slip as he wasn't expecting it to come to him so quickly. After that it was just a 50/50 with the keeper.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: mrdeeds on February 23, 2020, 07:30:47 PM
Arteta keeps improving Arsenal. He has made Mustafi lool good. Hopefully they get new contract sorted for Saka. A class act.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on February 29, 2020, 10:09:02 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 02, 2020, 01:37:28 PM
Quite amusing how Liverpool fans reacted to losing....going to win the league at a canter but so angry towards Arsenal...

The invincibless achieved something very very special...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on June 11, 2020, 08:10:46 PM
Gooners, name your best ever 11 in your living memory.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on June 11, 2020, 08:16:41 PM
Seaman
Dixon Campbell Adams Cole
Pires Vieira Fabregas Overmars
Henry Bergkamp

Unlucky: Wright, Winterburn, Toure, Lehmann, Lukic, van Persie, Sanchez, Cazorla, Lauren, Rocastle, Thomas, Merson.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 11, 2020, 09:00:44 PM
Petit has to be in the "unluckys" at the very least...apart from that a solid shout
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: mrdeeds on June 11, 2020, 09:52:32 PM
 Seaman
Lauren Campbell Adams Cole
Parlour Vieria Silva Pires
Henry Bergkamp

Unlucky to miss out Lehmann, Dixon, Keown, Fabregas, Sanchez, Ljungberg, Aubameyamg, Wright, Merson
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on June 11, 2020, 10:01:13 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 11, 2020, 09:52:32 PM
Seaman
Lauren Campbell Adams Cole
Parlour Vieria Silva Pires
Henry Bergkamp

Unlucky to miss out Lehmann, Dixon, Keown, Fabregas, Sanchez, Ljungberg, Aubameyamg, Wright, Merson

No Overmars?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: BennyCake on June 11, 2020, 10:22:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 11, 2020, 10:01:13 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 11, 2020, 09:52:32 PM
Seaman
Lauren Campbell Adams Cole
Parlour Vieria Silva Pires
Henry Bergkamp

Unlucky to miss out Lehmann, Dixon, Keown, Fabregas, Sanchez, Ljungberg, Aubameyamg, Wright, Merson

No Overmars?

He was a wee cheating bollix.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: mrdeeds on June 11, 2020, 10:56:44 PM
Overmars unlucky to miss out too. Himself and Petit left quick enough. Kanu too actually, used to love him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Main Street on June 11, 2020, 11:09:24 PM
Best ever manager,
Arsene Wenger.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: mrdeeds on June 11, 2020, 11:18:20 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 11, 2020, 11:09:24 PM
Best ever manager,
Arsene Wenger.

George Graham maybe. Also won a European Competition.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Windmill abu on June 12, 2020, 02:28:00 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 11, 2020, 09:52:32 PM
Seaman
Lauren Campbell Adams Cole
Parlour Vieria Silva Pires
Henry Bergkamp

Unlucky to miss out Lehmann, Dixon, Keown, Fabregas, Sanchez, Ljungberg, Aubameyamg, Wright, Merson

Parlour couldn't tie Liam Brady's laces. Brady would make any Arsenal 11.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on June 12, 2020, 08:12:57 AM
Never saw Brady play for Arsenal so couldn't include him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: mrdeeds on June 12, 2020, 08:44:55 AM
Quote from: Windmill abu on June 12, 2020, 02:28:00 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 11, 2020, 09:52:32 PM
Seaman
Lauren Campbell Adams Cole
Parlour Vieria Silva Pires
Henry Bergkamp

Unlucky to miss out Lehmann, Dixon, Keown, Fabregas, Sanchez, Ljungberg, Aubameyamg, Wright, Merson

Parlour couldn't tie Liam Brady's laces. Brady would make any Arsenal 11.

Before my time. Started following Arsenal from 1992.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 12, 2020, 09:56:59 AM
Not a Gooner but my 11 would be

Seaman

Dixon Adams Campbell Cole

Pires Viera Petite Carter

Henry Bergkamp
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on June 12, 2020, 12:27:08 PM
Always thought Jimmy Carter lacked big game temperament
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: BennyCake on June 12, 2020, 09:13:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 12, 2020, 12:27:08 PM
Always thought Jimmy Carter lacked big game temperament

Aye, especially when it came to the Iran hostages.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on June 17, 2020, 07:10:14 PM
Up the Arse!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on June 21, 2020, 06:25:35 AM
Fairly typical of Arsenal that. Acting the hard men after the game is over. Arteta has some job on his hands.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 22, 2020, 10:14:21 AM
Quote from: ONeill on June 21, 2020, 06:25:35 AM
Fairly typical of Arsenal that. Acting the hard men after the game is over. Arteta has some job on his hands.

No midfield. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but Ozil checked out after getting that €350k a week contract. Imagine if that money was available for wages.  :(
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on July 12, 2020, 07:11:29 PM
Mustafi must've been at a bonfire last night.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on July 15, 2020, 10:14:29 PM
OK, they were a bit disinterested... Can we still celebrate it?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: mrdeeds on July 15, 2020, 11:50:17 PM
Liked Arteta's interview after game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 18, 2020, 09:45:20 PM
That good win against Liverpool followed up by arguably a better win tonight against City. Very impressive display especially defensively where even David Luiz looked decent.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: mrdeeds on July 18, 2020, 10:50:53 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 18, 2020, 09:45:20 PM
That good win against Liverpool followed up by arguably a better win tonight against City. Very impressive display especially defensively where even David Luiz looked decent.

City never looked like scoring. Pressed well and positioning class.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on August 01, 2020, 09:33:30 PM
Nice to end the season that way.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Windmill abu on August 01, 2020, 11:23:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 01, 2020, 09:33:30 PM
Nice to end the season that way.

Without Martinelli, Saka, Chalmbers and Leno. Saliba ready to go. Arsenal need to sell Ozil and possibly bring in Thomas Partley and aim for a top 4 finish next season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: From the Bunker on August 02, 2020, 01:35:09 AM
Quote from: Windmill abu on August 01, 2020, 11:23:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 01, 2020, 09:33:30 PM
Nice to end the season that way.

Without Martinelli, Saka, Chalmbers and Leno. Saliba ready to go. Arsenal need to sell Ozil and possibly bring in Thomas Partley and aim for a top 4 finish next season

Ozil will have to be given away for free. He was a year left on a contract paying him £300,000 a week. No one in their right mind will buy Ozil and pay him them wages.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: An Watcher on August 02, 2020, 07:30:09 AM
Why they decided to give him that contract in the first place is beyond me. Players get huge contracts on the basis of top performances in the Premier league, ozil hasn't done that in the whole time he's been there. Ridiculous
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 02, 2020, 10:34:44 AM
She wore a yellow ribbon.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: mrdeeds on August 02, 2020, 12:59:14 PM
Quote from: An Watcher on August 02, 2020, 07:30:09 AM
Why they decided to give him that contract in the first place is beyond me. Players get huge contracts on the basis of top performances in the Premier league, ozil hasn't done that in the whole time he's been there. Ridiculous

It was a ridiculous contract but just before that he was flying.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: rodney trotter on August 07, 2020, 01:01:31 PM
Willian would be a gold sighing for Arsenal. He wanted a 3 year deal with Chelsea, they offered 2 probaly because of his age.
Maitland Niles being let go. He looked good when he broke into the Arsenal team, seems to have fallen back

Coutinho linked too, wether that will happen.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on August 30, 2020, 01:22:03 PM
Anyone know if the bus top parade is being televised live?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on September 15, 2020, 08:31:48 PM
That was an enjoyable first game.

We badly need to get off page 666 before the Liverpool game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on October 01, 2020, 08:10:08 PM
Wtf Liverpool at starting Salah. Cruel.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on October 01, 2020, 09:52:01 PM
Serious question lads - now that Arsenal have beaten Liverpool 3 times in the last couple of months.... Do we keep them????
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: mrdeeds on October 01, 2020, 10:05:04 PM
Hopefully get at least one midfielder in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: From the Bunker on October 01, 2020, 10:15:34 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 01, 2020, 09:52:01 PM
Serious question lads - now that Arsenal have beaten Liverpool 3 times in the last couple of months.... Do we keep them????

Ahem........two draws and a win!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2020, 11:11:36 PM
Arsenal dominated that... only a matter of time for them to be pushing for honours
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on October 01, 2020, 11:26:59 PM
In all seriousness. Does Arteta own Klopp?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on October 01, 2020, 11:49:09 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 01, 2020, 11:26:59 PM
In all seriousness. Does Arteta own Klopp?
Owns the games that Klopp doesn't care about, yes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 02, 2020, 01:22:57 AM
Quote from: ONeill on October 01, 2020, 11:26:59 PM
In all seriousness. Does Arteta own Klopp?

Or Roy Keane was right when he said Liverpool are sloppy against Arsenal?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bronco on October 02, 2020, 08:43:55 AM
Bizarre that he would play a world record transfer defender and regular top scorer in a game  he doesn't care about. Something doesn't quite add up there....


Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on October 01, 2020, 11:49:09 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 01, 2020, 11:26:59 PM
In all seriousness. Does Arteta own Klopp?
Owns the games that Klopp doesn't care about, yes.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on October 02, 2020, 05:23:32 PM
We'll take these Dundalk bastids.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: From the Bunker on October 02, 2020, 09:07:05 PM
Quote from: Bronco on October 02, 2020, 08:43:55 AM
Bizarre that he would play a world record transfer defender and regular top scorer in a game  he doesn't care about. Something doesn't quite add up there....

I'm surprised he did not play Allison, TTA, Robinson, Keita, Robinson, Henderson, Mane and Firminho. Have a right crack at winning the game?

Guess, he was just edging his bets on playing the two lads and a plethora of reserves and hoping for the best?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Roesider on October 03, 2020, 12:26:12 AM
Should qualify comfortably. Good for Dundalk too to get exposure, shame they will miss out on massive revenue from an aviva hosted game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on October 05, 2020, 09:09:38 PM
Not overly exciting football but looked decent for 20 mins in the second half.

Still feel there are too many nearly-players. Nearly very good.

Tierney - crosses a good ball but not convinced how good he is.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bronco on October 05, 2020, 09:13:58 PM
Tierney seems massively overrated based on what I've seen of him so far.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: tyroneman on October 06, 2020, 11:25:54 AM
Quote from: Bronco on October 05, 2020, 09:13:58 PM
Tierney seems massively overrated based on what I've seen of him so far.

Wow, now there is something you don't hear every day and certainly not from most Arsenal fans.

He can defend, tackle, cross and link up play - and at £25mill, even if he were just 'competent', still represents a bargain compared to some of the other defenders getting bought for £30, 40, 50million + in the EPL (cough Maguire, cough Cancelo, cough Mendy, cough Shaw)

Bear in mind the previous specialist LB was SK........ I would say Tierney is a clear upgrade.

And he's being asked to play at CH a fair chunk of the time......

The only downside I can see is his injury record.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bronco on October 06, 2020, 02:25:59 PM
I haven't watched him as much as Celtic fans would have, but just based on what I've seen at Arsenal so far he's been quite underwhelming compared with how he was being talked up.

In fairness to him he's in a side which has been a shambles defensively and he hasn't been their worst defender.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: tyroneman on October 06, 2020, 04:33:30 PM
I see Ozil has offered to pay the wages of the guy who was Gunnarsaurus...........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bronco on October 06, 2020, 04:41:56 PM
Good for him. Arsenal seem intent on portraying him as the villain, when the reality is he's willing and able to play.

Quote from: tyroneman on October 06, 2020, 04:33:30 PM
I see Ozil has offered to pay the wages of the guy who was Gunnarsaurus...........
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: laoislad on October 06, 2020, 05:24:20 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on October 06, 2020, 04:33:30 PM
I see Ozil has offered to pay the wages of the guy who was Gunnarsaurus...........
Whats the going rate for a Dinosaur these days?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: mrdeeds on October 06, 2020, 08:49:37 PM
Quote from: Bronco on October 06, 2020, 02:25:59 PM
I haven't watched him as much as Celtic fans would have, but just based on what I've seen at Arsenal so far he's been quite underwhelming compared with how he was being talked up.

In fairness to him he's in a side which has been a shambles defensively and he hasn't been their worst defender.

Arsenal not been shambolic in a while defensively since Arteta came in and Tierney large part of that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bronco on October 06, 2020, 10:01:51 PM
They're still a shambles. Look at how few clean sheets they've kept in the League lately.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: mrdeeds on October 06, 2020, 10:12:11 PM
Quote from: Bronco on October 06, 2020, 10:01:51 PM
They're still a shambles. Look at how few clean sheets they've kept in the League lately.

They've conceded 31 goals in 34 games under Arteta. Major improvement. 14 clean sheets too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Bronco on October 06, 2020, 10:25:01 PM
They have failed to keep a clean sheet in 8 of their last 9 League games. Even when they do keep a clean sheet they invariably look suspect at the back. Luiz and Holding are not viable options at centre back, and Xhaka should have been sold at least a year ago.


Quote from: mrdeeds on October 06, 2020, 10:12:11 PM
Quote from: Bronco on October 06, 2020, 10:01:51 PM
They're still a shambles. Look at how few clean sheets they've kept in the League lately.

They've conceded 31 goals in 34 games under Arteta. Major improvement. 14 clean sheets too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: tyroneman on October 07, 2020, 09:19:55 AM
Quote from: Bronco on October 06, 2020, 10:25:01 PM
They have failed to keep a clean sheet in 8 of their last 9 League games. Even when they do keep a clean sheet they invariably look suspect at the back. Luiz and Holding are not viable options at centre back, and Xhaka should have been sold at least a year ago.


Quote from: mrdeeds on October 06, 2020, 10:12:11 PM
Quote from: Bronco on October 06, 2020, 10:01:51 PM
They're still a shambles. Look at how few clean sheets they've kept in the League lately.

They've conceded 31 goals in 34 games under Arteta. Major improvement. 14 clean sheets too.

They would be a sh*t ton worse at the back without KT
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on October 16, 2020, 08:44:06 PM
Jesus the media overkill by Arsenal on Partey has been hard to stomach.

Had to wipe them from all social media.

Their social media must be run by an 18-year-old.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2020, 08:07:33 PM
What's yiz think of the Gunners so far?

Feels a little bit stale already - the way it did under Emery after a while. Not sure if he knows his best side, or if he does it's not very different.

Still Xhaka in the middle. Still handbrakey.

Pepe was badly overpriced.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: mrdeeds on October 30, 2020, 09:11:47 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 30, 2020, 08:07:33 PM
What's yiz think of the Gunners so far?

Feels a little bit stale already - the way it did under Emery after a while. Not sure if he knows his best side, or if he does it's not very different.

Still Xhaka in the middle. Still handbrakey.

Pepe was badly overpriced.

Defensively better but no creativity.

Pepe shows flashes of genius but needs to be more consistent. Need to stop playing three central midfielders that aren't creators.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: mrdeeds on November 02, 2020, 01:35:40 AM
Elneny had some game versus Utd. Much more mobile than Xhaka.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: lurganblue on November 09, 2020, 10:11:41 AM
I've had some laugh at that Arsenal fan TV this morning.  They'd a complete meltdown last night.  I assume these lads are an embarrassment to most Arsenal fans?  Or do most fans take it as a bit of craic?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on November 18, 2020, 08:20:21 PM
Aye they're embarrassing if you take them seriously. They're just the result of what passes as popular today.

Good article in the Athletic today about Sol Campbell's move across North London. Jesus, that must've been sore for Spurs.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on December 10, 2020, 05:22:24 PM
Big game v Dundalk. They'll be on a high.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 13, 2020, 09:15:13 PM
Arsenal in relegation form. Wenger might be brought back if this run continues.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on December 13, 2020, 10:05:03 PM
As weird as it is, Arsenal are playing alright until it comes to finishing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: tiempo on December 13, 2020, 11:04:45 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 13, 2020, 10:05:03 PM
As weird as it is, Arsenal are playing alright until it comes to finishing.

Honesty they aren't
Players slaves to a shite system
MO seems to be switch ya brain off as you walk through the door
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on December 13, 2020, 11:27:13 PM
What's the system?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: reillycavan on December 13, 2020, 11:34:35 PM
Xkaka should be shipped out now. Recruitment and give mad contracts has set the club back badly.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: tiempo on December 14, 2020, 12:36:24 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 13, 2020, 11:27:13 PM
What's the system?

"Win" the passing stats
Pass in triangles ad infinutum around the fringes while going nowhere with little attempt to actually play an incisive pass
Don't shoot
And hope that's enough to win games
Switch ya brain off and do this on repeat, don't express yourself or God forbid take a risk
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: tyroneman on December 14, 2020, 09:51:59 AM
Had to laugh at that Evra story about Henry inviting him over to watch an Arsenal game, then turning it off when he saw Xhaka leading them out as captain.

Arteta has dug a fair hole for himself by claiming everyone would start with a clean slate, then quickly putting various players out in the cold, while rewarding others, regardless of poor game after poor game.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: laoislad on December 19, 2020, 07:34:06 PM
So is that Arsenal out of the title race?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: gawa316 on December 19, 2020, 09:38:30 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 19, 2020, 07:34:06 PM
So is that Arsenal out of the title race?

Loss 8 of 14 in the league. After bearing Utd things look rosy enough but they've been awful since that
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: seafoid on December 22, 2020, 01:46:30 PM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/12/21/arsenal-plan-doomsday-scenario-relegation-premier-league/

Arsenal have planned for the doomsday scenario of relegation from the Premier League with a number of players facing big pay cuts if the club goes down.

Unlike Chelsea in 2015, when they were 16th in the Premier League table during December, Arsenal have protected themselves against the financial impact of relegation.

It is understood that many of Arsenal's traditional rivals do not plan for the threat of relegation by inserting reduction clauses into their players' contracts, but the practice is relatively common outside the big six.

Mikel Arteta outburst worryingly reminiscent of Rafael Benitez's 'facts' rant
Arsenal's relegation clauses are thought to be relatively new, given the fact many stalwarts of the Arsene Wenger era never had them during their careers.

Arsenal are 15th in the table, four points above the relegation zone, and have not been relegated since the 1912-13 season, when, as Woolwich Arsenal, they finished bottom of the old First Division.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2020, 11:04:41 PM
Let's see if Arsenal can build on that. They haven't been playing badly recently. Some crap results but the football was there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 29, 2020, 02:24:16 PM
If Arsenal can will tonight they will only be 6 points behind title challengers Chelsea  :o

One good midfielder away from a decent side that could win the Europa Cup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 29, 2020, 02:53:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 29, 2020, 02:24:16 PM
If Arsenal can will tonight they will only be 6 points behind title challengers Chelsea  :o

One good midfielder away from a decent side that could win the Europa Cup.

A lot of talk about Aouar. Can't comment on him but he seems to be a clever player, but so was Havertz and he hasn't set the place alight in Chelsea. Still think the defence is dodgy
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 29, 2020, 03:06:22 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 29, 2020, 02:53:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 29, 2020, 02:24:16 PM
If Arsenal can will tonight they will only be 6 points behind title challengers Chelsea  :o

One good midfielder away from a decent side that could win the Europa Cup.

A lot of talk about Aouar. Can't comment on him but he seems to be a clever player, but so was Havertz and he hasn't set the place alight in Chelsea. Still think the defence is dodgy

Arsenal have only conceded two goals from set-piece all season, and one of those was an own-goal. Their problem has been scoring goals. And as you imply it's that lack of a creative midfielder. Players take time to settle, human nature and I imagine this Covid-19 bubble is even harder for now players.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on December 30, 2020, 08:07:56 PM
Yes, Arsenal's defence has been fairly solid. I think they're fairly low down in terms of goals conceded.

If they can find a way to solve the attack. Tierney sends in about half a dozen balls a game that are dreams for a good centre forward. Giroud would love him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: toby47 on January 19, 2021, 08:35:00 AM
Looks like Ozil finally gone.

When  Arsenal fans look back in a few years, how will he be remembered?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: mrdeeds on January 19, 2021, 09:43:40 AM
Quote from: toby47 on January 19, 2021, 08:35:00 AM
Looks like Ozil finally gone.

When  Arsenal fans look back in a few years, how will he be remembered?

First few year a class act but then declined and happy to pick up a pay cheque.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: sensethetone on January 19, 2021, 11:47:44 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 19, 2021, 09:43:40 AM
Quote from: toby47 on January 19, 2021, 08:35:00 AM
Looks like Ozil finally gone.

When  Arsenal fans look back in a few years, how will he be remembered?

First few year a class act but then declined and happy to pick up a pay cheque.

Think Wenger fired money at Ozil just to show he could keep a big name.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 19, 2021, 02:42:26 PM
Good job Saka & Smith Rowe have arrived on the scene otherwise Arsneal would be in huge trouble. They've given Arsenal some hope for the future along with Martinelli.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Dearg on February 13, 2021, 08:24:36 AM
Arsenal are finished. It will be years before they will be back.
It took Liverpool 30 years, it will take as long if not longer for Arsenal.
None of the players are good enough and the manager is a joke.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: mrdeeds on February 13, 2021, 09:06:43 AM
Quote from: Dearg on February 13, 2021, 08:24:36 AM
Arsenal are finished. It will be years before they will be back.
It took Liverpool 30 years, it will take as long if not longer for Arsenal.
None of the players are good enough and the manager is a joke.

That's the manager who has won a trophy a few months into his managerial career?

There is some special youngsters there at the moment so future looks bright.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2021, 01:14:59 PM
Jesus Christ Xhaka. Another one for the scrapbook.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: imtommygunn on March 06, 2021, 01:22:15 PM
Ridiculous goal.

Arsenal should be about three up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: macker15 on April 11, 2021, 10:02:54 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9457861/amp/Mikel-Arteta-facing-revolt-Arsenal-players-angry-blamed-Gunners-woes.html

Who are the senior players at Arsenal.? 🤣🤣🤣 Aubameyang  and Xhaka are not captain material.  Sako and Smith Rowe only lads showing leadership along with Tierney.  Gunners great at beating the Sheff Utd, Burnley and Newcastle 4/5 nil and then fall short against Liverpool and Man City. Since Vierira Arsenal have lacked a top leader.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on April 15, 2021, 10:56:07 PM
The Emery thing will be a bit of craic now.

I like Emery - he took on an impossible job in London.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on April 15, 2021, 11:34:03 PM
Good ebening
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on May 23, 2021, 09:53:13 PM
Dodged a bullet avoiding that European thing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on July 19, 2021, 07:37:29 PM
Decent draw against the Champions of Scotland.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on August 13, 2021, 10:30:42 PM
At the end of the season, if Brentford win the league, this won't look too bad.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 13, 2021, 10:46:54 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 13, 2021, 10:30:42 PM
At the end of the season, if Brentford win the league, this won't look too bad.
:-) Positive attitude. Could be the only defeat of the season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on August 13, 2021, 11:20:08 PM
Nice one O'Neill 😃

Thats the spirit
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Windmill abu on August 13, 2021, 11:39:35 PM
I think we should go back to the European football league. It doesn't seem so bad now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on November 07, 2021, 10:58:01 PM
First Quarter report - B?

Seem to be beating the sides they should be.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: J70 on November 08, 2021, 02:30:28 PM
Arsenal are doing rightly so far.

Long way to go obviously, and we'll see how they do in the tougher fixtures.

Beat Leicester away recently though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: screenexile on December 02, 2021, 10:11:23 PM
What's happened to Kieran Tierney he's not getting any game time?

He was the best left back in the Premier League not that long ago (well according to Celtic fans).
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: Hound on December 03, 2021, 08:13:14 AM
Aubameyang is a pale shadow of his former self. Last season it looked like he wasn't really trying, this season looks like he is trying, but still poor.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on December 21, 2021, 09:53:30 PM
Arsenal - best team in Europe at present - discuss.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: toby47 on December 22, 2021, 10:36:42 AM
They should flog Auba in January
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on December 22, 2021, 10:47:11 AM
100%. He's 32 - get £10m?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: toby47 on December 22, 2021, 03:12:10 PM
Yep - I'd take the 10million and 300k a week off the wage bill.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 22, 2021, 04:01:10 PM
How long has he got left on his contract?  He's doing an Ozil and will sit it out.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: toby47 on December 22, 2021, 07:44:16 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 22, 2021, 04:01:10 PM
How long has he got left on his contract?  He's doing an Ozil and will sit it out.


Expires June 2023
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on December 23, 2021, 05:24:01 PM
He was another bad choice of captain. But Arsenal haven't been dripping with captain material for about 10 years now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - Return of the Jedi
Post by: ONeill on December 26, 2021, 11:01:40 PM
Pity the Wolves game called off.

Will get tanked by City and Liverpool now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on January 01, 2022, 02:47:18 PM
That was unlucky. 50/50 decisions went slightly towards City. Think that was a penalty in the first half.

Always a big error in Xhaka at any time and Gabriel silly. Bad miss by Martinelli just before the red.

https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/1477293404451225601?s=20

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2022, 07:13:24 PM
That was an enjoyable end to the weekend.

Picked a bad month to go dry.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: From the Bunker on January 09, 2022, 07:21:22 PM
Arsenal away Jerseys are a nightmare for both Commentators and Fans.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 09, 2022, 07:23:29 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 09, 2022, 07:21:22 PM
Arsenal away Jerseys are a nightmare for both Commentators and Fans.

They are a one off, it's making a statement against knife crime, no room for red
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Ghost on January 09, 2022, 07:25:14 PM
Toothless enough from Arsenal there. Got exactly what they deserved.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on January 09, 2022, 07:27:56 PM
Can bask in the warm glow of the glorious defeat to Man City, so all good.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on January 13, 2022, 09:49:55 PM
That's a decent response from the 10 man Arsenal reserves.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on January 13, 2022, 10:03:36 PM
Really need a signing tomorrow or Friday for mf for Spurs game. Jack on as a pay as you play???
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on January 13, 2022, 10:05:32 PM
Would have loved Ramsey.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on February 24, 2022, 10:03:01 PM
4th place race going to the wire.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on March 06, 2022, 06:13:24 PM
Continue to beat the teams they should be, narrowly.

Leicester and Liverpool at home next. Would forget about getting anything v Pool but Leicester a big game. They've steadied the ship a bit.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on March 06, 2022, 06:15:41 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 06, 2022, 06:13:24 PM
Continue to beat the teams they should be, narrowly.

Leicester and Liverpool at home next. Would forget about getting anything v Pool but Leicester a big game. They've steadied the ship a bit.

Man Utd play spurs next so at least one of them dropping points.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on March 06, 2022, 08:16:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 06, 2022, 06:13:24 PM
Continue to beat the teams they should be, narrowly.

Leicester and Liverpool at home next. Would forget about getting anything v Pool but Leicester a big game. They've steadied the ship a bit.

All big  games now. Neville convinced utd will get 4th place. Blind loyalty
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on March 13, 2022, 10:44:02 PM
That was more comfortable than expected. It would be great to have a prolific striker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: From the Bunker on March 13, 2022, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 13, 2022, 10:44:02 PM
That was more comfortable than expected. It would be great to have a prolific striker.

Kudos to Arteta who has made some big calls and they have paid off.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: laoislad on March 16, 2022, 10:12:51 PM
Thanks lads 👍
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on March 16, 2022, 11:10:16 PM
Hard to be too disappointed with that.

Liverpool are better in every department so only sticking to a rigid gameplan was going to see Arsenal getting anything from it 

As soon as Arsenal dropped their guard, Liverpool were going to find holes like a world class fighter. They're too experienced and too good to give any chink of light to. Thought Firmino's finish was pure class.

This will be a distant memory in 3 days if they beat Villa. If not, the other 2 games in hand away to Spurs and Chelsea will begin to weigh heavily.

Interesting to see how they react on Sat morning.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on March 17, 2022, 12:09:25 AM
Headin the right direction chaps thats all you can do. Get 4th then couple more signings, upward trend continues. Tough team to play against now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Armamike on March 17, 2022, 12:42:07 AM
Good team.  Arterta seems to be getting a tune out of them. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on March 19, 2022, 09:12:04 PM
That was nail-biting at the end but job done.

Would love a decent striker this summer. Anyone atall like.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on April 09, 2022, 09:59:11 PM
All gone tits up with 2 injuries.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2022, 11:27:26 PM
Tits are still up.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2022, 09:22:03 AM
Tits are steady.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on April 21, 2022, 10:31:28 AM
Just when I thought I was out they pull me back in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Windmill abu on April 21, 2022, 12:16:44 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 21, 2022, 09:22:03 AM
Tits are steady.

Now that the tits are steady. Can they sort out the lack of action in the box.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 21, 2022, 01:52:50 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on April 21, 2022, 12:16:44 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 21, 2022, 09:22:03 AM
Tits are steady.

Now that the tits are steady. Can they sort out the lack of action in the box.

Action in the box makes the tits wobble as f**k....can't have it both ways....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: gawa316 on April 21, 2022, 08:34:26 PM
Any chance of a visual?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on April 21, 2022, 08:40:21 PM
Big Giroud be proud of the way this thread is goin 😉😂
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Rudi on April 23, 2022, 12:50:32 PM
1 nil to the Arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on April 23, 2022, 08:50:12 PM
They should just do a top 3.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: laoislad on May 22, 2022, 06:15:22 PM
How's yer tits now?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2022, 06:18:38 PM
Someone isn't happy.... Hopefully he'll not kick the dog or slap the wife
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: From the Bunker on May 22, 2022, 06:21:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2022, 06:18:38 PM
Someone isn't happy.... Hopefully he'll not kick the dog or slap the wife

In that case your Dog and wife must have got a fair walloping this season!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2022, 06:23:16 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 22, 2022, 06:21:50 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2022, 06:18:38 PM
Someone isn't happy.... Hopefully he'll not kick the dog or slap the wife

In that case your Dog and wife must have got a fair walloping this season!  ;D

If I took it seriously enough  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on May 22, 2022, 06:49:58 PM
Jesus Arsenal can't even get into the top 4 when everyone else around them implodes. Can Areta survive this?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2022, 07:01:23 PM
Yeah, it was there if they wanted it.

Didn't have the talent/experience to do it.

Spurs are definitely a better side when all fit. Don't think Arsenal would have been any better than Celtic in the CL, although they may have lost a few potential decent transfers by not qualifying. Dunno about Arteta either. They might have to do a Bruce Rioch on him if a better manager becomes available.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on May 22, 2022, 07:18:02 PM
Didn't recruit in January with a wafer thin squad, let a striker go who can clearly score goals.
Overall Arteta finished 5th and got us in europa league. How is that better than any previous season? Last year we just had the league to focus on-Not next year

he couldn't get top 4 over the line. That's on Mikel and the squad he gave himself. 3 games to go, four points clear. Failure. That's the only word for it.

They are the youngest squad in the league. They played well when the pressure was off them, hopefully this disappointment stands to them long term.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on July 24, 2022, 10:37:54 AM
Must be the best pre-season friendly champions ever.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on July 25, 2022, 09:39:04 AM
Would still like to see another few signings. Not completely convinced at the moment
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: laoislad on August 04, 2022, 11:03:27 AM
https://twitter.com/primevideosport/status/1554550694505504770?s=21&t=uumU-uqfN5Ia3Imdip02Eg

Lolz.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on August 04, 2022, 11:54:11 AM
Saw the clip of him getting Stuart the photographer giving the pre match speech v Spurs. Thought that was class.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on August 04, 2022, 01:54:16 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 04, 2022, 11:03:27 AM
https://twitter.com/primevideosport/status/1554550694505504770?s=21&t=uumU-uqfN5Ia3Imdip02Eg

Lolz.

Thanks for update
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on August 04, 2022, 06:49:34 PM
All of Nothing first 3 episodes now available on Amazon Prime. Great watch
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on August 04, 2022, 09:39:42 PM
Watched the first one.

What strikes you is how young and relatively inexperienced most are, including Arteta himself. And there's something nice about that when viewing it like this.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2022, 09:12:56 PM
Where does tierney sit in the pecking order with zinchenko in there ? He looks very useful.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Ghost on August 05, 2022, 09:20:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2022, 09:12:56 PM
Where does tierney sit in the pecking order with zinchenko in there ? He looks very useful.

Read somewhere that Zinchenko has aspirations of playing as one of the CDMs like he does for Ukraine so if Tierney could get up to speed keep himself fit it could free Zinchenko up to play in there.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Rudi on August 05, 2022, 09:36:51 PM
1 nil to the Arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2022, 09:54:24 PM
Quote from: Ghost on August 05, 2022, 09:20:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 05, 2022, 09:12:56 PM
Where does tierney sit in the pecking order with zinchenko in there ? He looks very useful.

Read somewhere that Zinchenko has aspirations of playing as one of the CDMs like he does for Ukraine so if Tierney could get up to speed keep himself fit it could free Zinchenko up to play in there.

Both very useful and should probably be accommodated in the team. Tierney looked sharp enough when he came on but he does seem injury prone.

Good win for arsenal. Palace a difficult enough side to play against.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on August 05, 2022, 10:23:05 PM
Tierney can be rested now so will help with injuries. Saliba looks the real deal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on August 06, 2022, 05:30:18 AM
Top of the league, 3 points clear.
Saliba player of the season.
Martinelli top scorer

Other clubs could never
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on August 07, 2022, 10:56:32 PM
Didn't think Arsenal played that well. They're still a long way off being a good side.

They've a decent run of games here and should be looking at 15 points from 15 if they're to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on August 20, 2022, 09:46:55 PM
Well that's 9 from 9. Today was the most comfortable.

We still can't make any judgement until they meet one of the big boys. I'm hoping there are less mistakes in Saliba and Zinchenko when the pressure is on. Xhaka etc won't change spots.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on August 20, 2022, 10:30:14 PM
Martinelli too much of a mooch today for my liking
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on August 22, 2022, 11:25:32 PM
Oh baby

If we could ever get one more decent central midfielder to replace Xhaka I'd be delighted
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on August 23, 2022, 09:04:29 AM
I think Xhaka being surprisingly good. A goal and two assists already.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on August 23, 2022, 09:57:13 AM
Enjoyed the All or Nothing documentary. One thing is for sure Arteta is a Gem. Seems like a great guy and someone you'd go through a brick wall for. Totally wasted at Arsenal. Edu seems to know what he is doing re: recruitment. Big season now. Top 3 or 4 is a must.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on August 27, 2022, 08:47:12 PM
Good to grind that out but you saw today that Gabriel isn't a top-class defender.

Also, Tierney and Elneny are a Lidl version of Zinchenko and Partey.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on August 29, 2022, 01:29:28 PM
Think that's harsh on Gabriel ? He was highly sought after by juventus. He showed great character to rectify his mistake scoring a goal when his team needed him.

I want another buy this week but I'm not sure if it's going to come.

Been too many rumours around Neto, Zaha, Diaby etc
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on August 29, 2022, 06:04:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 27, 2022, 08:47:12 PM
Good to grind that out but you saw today that Gabriel isn't a top-class defender.

Also, Tierney and Elneny are a Lidl version of Zinchenko and Partey.

Harsh on Tierney too. He's a bettee defender than Zinchenko although Zinchenko is a better technical player. Need back up to Partey. Lokonga should be given a chance to be his back up rather than Elneny.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on September 02, 2022, 08:42:14 PM
That's the 5 wins you'd expect.

At the end of September you'll have a fair idea if Arsenal have made any meaningful progress this year.

Away v Utd
Away v Zurich
Home v Everton
Home v PSV
Away v Brentford

If they get out of September with 6 or 7 points from those 3 league games you'll be happy. This time they've Europe to be thinking about in between and that's a new thing to balance after a year out of it.

October is a real shitshow of tough games.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on September 02, 2022, 09:15:59 PM
Lack of Europe harmed Arsenal last year. Lokonga and Tavares didn't play enough games and were cold when needed.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on September 02, 2022, 10:00:51 PM
That's a good point although I wouldn't have Tavares anywhere near a top 4 hopeful in the English league.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on September 03, 2022, 10:07:30 AM
Quote from: ONeill on September 02, 2022, 10:00:51 PM
That's a good point although I wouldn't have Tavares anywhere near a top 4 hopeful in the English league.

He's playing unreal in France. Think he more a wing back than full back or left winger.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Turf on September 04, 2022, 05:16:04 PM
Thought Arsenal were far the better in that first half, unlucky to be behind.

Soft enough foul for the goal that was ruled out, was it clear and obvious enough for the Ref to change his decision? I don't think so.

On another note ,Tyler and Neville shouldn't be allowed to commentate on Man United matches, the bias from them toward Man United is diabolical.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Ghost on September 04, 2022, 05:23:54 PM
Quote from: Turf on September 04, 2022, 05:16:04 PM
Thought Arsenal were far the better in that first half, unlucky to be behind.

Soft enough foul for the goal that was ruled out, was it clear and obvious enough for the Ref to change his decision? I don't think so.

On another note ,Tyler and Neville shouldn't be allowed to commentate on Man United matches, the bias from them toward Man United is diabolical.

Was wondering is the clear and obvious still a thing myself. Probably was just about a foul if given in real time but not sure there's enough to be overturning goals.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 04, 2022, 05:28:23 PM
Quote from: Turf on September 04, 2022, 05:16:04 PM
Thought Arsenal were far the better in that first half, unlucky to be behind.

Soft enough foul for the goal that was ruled out, was it clear and obvious enough for the Ref to change his decision? I don't think so.

On another note ,Tyler and Neville shouldn't be allowed to commentate on Man United matches, the bias from them toward Man United is diabolical.
What were you watching? the best team in the half are leading. On the disallowed goal most referees would have called a foul straight away than letting play develop.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: J70 on September 04, 2022, 05:34:27 PM
It was a foul. He came in on Eriksen's blind side and pushed him.

Thought Arsenal looked very good. United looking very solid though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Turf on September 04, 2022, 06:06:52 PM
What a strange game, Arsenal the better team for the majority of it and they find themselves 3-1 down.
Premier League is wide open this year.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 04, 2022, 06:21:10 PM
Quote from: Turf on September 04, 2022, 06:06:52 PM
What a strange game, Arsenal the better team for the majority of it and they find themselves 3-1 down.
Premier League is wide open this year.

No its not
It's wide open from 2nd to 20th
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on September 04, 2022, 08:24:57 PM
Don't get how that's a foul but Ramsdale last week wasn't a foul on him then Maguire does the same thing in the box against Nketiah and no foul?? Pure utter bullshit
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on September 04, 2022, 08:26:20 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on September 04, 2022, 08:24:57 PM
Don't get how that's a foul but Ramsdale last week wasn't a foul on him then Maguire does the same thing in the box against Nketiah and no foul?? Pure utter bullshit

Well the ref and VAR officials are from Manchester. Disappointing result but happy with the performance.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on September 04, 2022, 08:59:29 PM
First slight test of the year (there'll be harder grounds to go to) and a fail. Utd were happy to let Utd have the ball for a lot of this game, knowing they had Arsenal tied up defensively.

I'm not sure if Arsenal have progressed at all and fear that Jesus and Zinchenko will be sucked into the mediocrity. 6 points required from Everton and Brentford before the end of the month. If any progress has been made, that will happen. Last year, a defeat often meant a poor run of form.

Gabriel kills me. For their first goal, he lunged in again and fouled the Utd man although the advantage was played. He's a red card waiting to happen all day. Saka scoring will hopefully relax him and Martinelli is in mostly good form. For those big games, Partey is needed or Elneny at a push.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: nrico2006 on September 04, 2022, 09:35:56 PM
Has Partey been cleared or is he still under investigation?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on September 04, 2022, 09:36:48 PM
Reality check for Arsenal and their army of deluded fans. Utd very comfortable and reality it could have been 5 or 6-1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Walter Cronc on September 04, 2022, 09:53:40 PM
Quote from: trailer on September 04, 2022, 09:36:48 PM
Reality check for Arsenal and their army of deluded fans. Utd very comfortable and reality it could have been 5 or 6-1

You talk some shite!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on September 18, 2022, 08:31:53 PM
That was as comfortable a match Arsenal have played in a long time. Brentford couldn't get near the ball.

There wasn't one performance below 7/10 although Partey was a bit rusty.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on September 18, 2022, 11:18:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on September 18, 2022, 08:31:53 PM
That was as comfortable a match Arsenal have played in a long time. Brentford couldn't get near the ball.

There wasn't one performance below 7/10 although Partey was a bit rusty.

Yeah partey on the whole has underwhelmed for me, bar a few good performances in his first season.

So much so that if he doesn't improve soon I'll be looking for a new general in the middle, neither him, lokonga or xhaka are top class to bring us forward
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on September 18, 2022, 11:27:01 PM
Ah yes, there are no midfield players at Arsenal with designs of winning the league. Defensively they're getting there.

Not sold on Saka. Martinelli has it I think.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on September 19, 2022, 06:47:57 AM
Fair point, I hate to play the broken record but it is true - Saka gets praised as if he's the next big thing because of his nationality. If he was that good he'd be a key man in Englands team at this World Cup, I just can't see it. He does it in bits for us.

Agreed - Martinelli is dynamite, always looking to take the man on. Love watching him. Jesus has been a godsend, much better than Auba if he keeps going as he gives so much more to the team overall.

Disappointed for Tierney, he doesn't look the same man since he's come back, and zinchenko has surpassed him at this rate
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: JimStynes on September 19, 2022, 08:47:21 AM
Saka is still only 21! I get the whole inflated praise due to his nationality buts he's definitely a good player and well worth his place! I could see Tierney moving on. It's just not happening for him consistently. There was talk of him being a future captain at one stage but he's never on the pitch long enough.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on September 19, 2022, 09:00:29 AM
Jesus lads I thought Tierney played well yesterday, not much came down his or Gabriels side.. Think Zinchenko arriving will push him on
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on September 19, 2022, 10:01:25 AM
Arteta seems to be a real talent spotter. The team is unrecognisable from his first game. He was able to see the potential in  Xhaka ,for example, when most were looking him out. His signings with Edu have brought Arsenal to where they are at the moment. Guardiola didn't appoint him as his assistant for nothing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on September 19, 2022, 10:31:13 AM
Arsenal are a much better team with Partey. The record without Partey is not great. He's very solid defensively and sometimes gives the ball away as his first instinct is to go forward. Tierney was excellent yesterday. Him and Parteys main issue is injury. Saka is still playing well and has 6 goal contributions even though still not at his best.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on October 01, 2022, 03:42:25 PM
I'm heading over in November for a game and staying in Central London.

Stayed on the Seven Sisters once and it was fine.

That was a fine win today. Martinelli must be a nightmare to mark. Zinchenko and Jesus have brought a winning mentality with them.

I don't know what you do with Gabriel. Tired of going on about him but he'll cost you in big games. Real live brainfarts in slow motion.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Ty4Sam on October 01, 2022, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on October 01, 2022, 03:28:38 PM
Any recommendations on where to stay if traveling over to a game?

Finsbury Park area seems handy (and relatively cheap)....but heards it's a v dodgy area?

Depends what you want? Are you just going for the match or are you making a weekend out of it? For just a match, Travelodge Finsbury is grand. Not much around it although 12 Pins pub is just around the corner. Finsbury can be dodgy enough at night.  If you want a bit of nightlife, stay in Angel, there's a Hilton, Doubletree and a premier inn surrounded by bars and restaurants. Only a short bus ride to Emirates. If your going for the weekend, you could stay virtually anywhere in London. Emirates is very well serviced by the tube, so there's no problem staying in Camden, Russell Square etc and getting the tube in for the match.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Turf on October 01, 2022, 04:27:29 PM
Arsenal played well but that sending off changed the game. Was never a red.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: JimStynes on October 01, 2022, 04:54:01 PM
Paddy power be safer paying out early for Arsenal winning the league
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on October 01, 2022, 10:58:58 PM
It's whether they can do two back-to-back titles.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on October 02, 2022, 12:23:14 AM
Quote from: Turf on October 01, 2022, 04:27:29 PM
Arsenal played well but that sending off changed the game. Was never a red.

No he only stuck the studs down the side of his leg nowhere near ball and as for changing a game Arsenal totally dominated. Spurs are essentially Stoke. Play five defenders and two holding players. Horrible negative team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: johnnycool on October 03, 2022, 08:20:54 AM
Quote from: Turf on October 01, 2022, 04:27:29 PM
Arsenal played well but that sending off changed the game. Was never a red.

As Roy Keane says he gave the referee a decision to make and the ref did.

There was no need to do it, Martinelli heading away from goal, no real danger and he rakes the studs down his foot, nowhere near the ball.

Arsenal are playing for second spot and they might just get there if Jesus stays fit and keeps banging them in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on October 07, 2022, 12:40:36 AM
Don't suppose any gunners on here could help? Lifelong fan, but only signed up again as a member at the end of last season after a long absence (I was a junior gunner member at one stage!  :-[ )

As I said I'm an arsenal red member but it isn't much use to me unfortunately for what I'm after

My dad hasn't been over to emirates in 15 years - I want to bring him and both my brothers to a game  after Christmas in jan/feb 2023 - so I need 4x tickets , not asking for much!

The 3 games I have my eye on in order of priority are:
1. Home to Man United sat 21st jan 2023
2. Brentford Sat 11 feb 3pm
3. Newcastle mon 2nd jan 3pm

Would really appreciate any help or a steer towards any contacts you have! Looking to book early to get the flights and hotel cheap enough as the brothers are students.

It'll get my Xmas presents sorted!

I think the tickets are only released about 6 weeks prior to members, and other than that I'm guessing I'll have to go through the tout websites or try to get in contact with season ticket holders etc...


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: joemamas on October 07, 2022, 03:07:49 PM
Quote from: BrotherMore6592 on October 07, 2022, 12:40:36 AM
Don't suppose any gunners on here could help? Lifelong fan, but only signed up again as a member at the end of last season after a long absence (I was a junior gunner member at one stage!  :-[ )

As I said I'm an arsenal red member but it isn't much use to me unfortunately for what I'm after

My dad hasn't been over to emirates in 15 years - I want to bring him and both my brothers to a game  after Christmas in jan/feb 2023 - so I need 4x tickets , not asking for much!

The 3 games I have my eye on in order of priority are:
1. Home to Man United sat 21st jan 2023
2. Brentford Sat 11 feb 3pm
3. Newcastle mon 2nd jan 3pm

Would really appreciate any help or a steer towards any contacts you have! Looking to book early to get the flights and hotel cheap enough as the brothers are students.

It'll get my Xmas presents sorted!

I think the tickets are only released about 6 weeks prior to members, and other than that I'm guessing I'll have to go through the tout websites or try to get in contact with season ticket holders etc...

Actually went last week from the US, it was the North London derby, cheapest tickets  were E300+, tracked them for two weeks on Stub hub came down about 5% that was it.
The problem is a  lot of folks will travel there for one or two games and that will justify paying through the nose for tickets.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on October 07, 2022, 04:21:34 PM
Yeah I can get United for 200 and the other two for 150 each, steep considering United is a grade A game and face value is prob like 90.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on October 10, 2022, 09:18:01 AM
Martinelli is magic.

Van Dijk is a poor man's Saliba

Special thanks to Alexander Arnold for his part in the 3 points.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on October 10, 2022, 02:10:20 PM
Martinelli is in the form of his life. He's not the complete unit yet but would be a nightmare to play against. Xhaka still playing well when Partey plays. Those two goals may kickstart Saka into being more productive. The full back options are the best its been in years.

The whole Thursday-Sunday thing might take its toll but that's the pressures of competing and it's only the Europa. 

That was the first time seeing Liverpool really up close and you can tell they're a bit busted at the minute. I think City broke them last year and it'll need freshness to stem that tide. For 20 mins of the first half it looked like they were finding their old selves but it didn't take much for that to fade.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Turf on October 16, 2022, 07:01:06 PM
Some weekend for the Arse. Everything going their way the moment.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on October 16, 2022, 09:00:51 PM
That second half was hard to watch. Leeds were the better team for much of it as Arsenal started to look leggy.

Bamford's miss knocked the stuffing out of Leeds until they put the foot on the pedal last 10. Some decent saves from Ramsdale. Away to Southampton next Sunday after the PSV game this Thursday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on October 16, 2022, 10:21:28 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 16, 2022, 09:00:51 PM
That second half was hard to watch. Leeds were the better team for much of it as Arsenal started to look leggy.

Bamford's miss knocked the stuffing out of Leeds until they put the foot on the pedal last 10. Some decent saves from Ramsdale. Away to Southampton next Sunday after the PSV game this Thursday.

PSV at home thankfully and Southampton have a midweek game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on October 16, 2022, 11:11:52 PM
Forgot Soton had a midweek game.

It's a case of who you can afford to rest against PSV. Was glad to see Xhaka and Martinelli not starting last Thursday. Tierney, Holding, Nket, Vieira Lakonga, Nelson and Marquinos should start Thurs. And Turner.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on October 20, 2022, 10:50:31 PM
Xhaka played the full game today which I was surprised at. He's still finding his feet in England but Vieira was very disappointing today. Too easily knocked off the ball and his positioning was of a man not wanting it. Must be one of the slightest/lightest men at that level.

Odegaard, Partey and Martinelli did more damage in 10 mins than Vieira and Lakonga did in 70. The Thurs-Sun schedule is highlighting how much they're dependent on the first string from mid up.

Jesus is much, much better than I thought. He sets the attitude and doesn't accept that recent Arsenal trait of thinking you're better than the opposition without working for it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on October 20, 2022, 11:20:26 PM
Vieria has shown glimpses of class though. Lokonga looks to be playing out of position. Maybe better more advanced.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: RedHand88 on October 27, 2022, 08:40:36 PM
Disturbing news from Italy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63421228 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63421228)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2022, 10:48:33 PM
Forest were the perfect side to meet. A fine run-out and that's the win that will keep them in good shape after the World Cup.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 30, 2022, 10:54:09 PM
Quote from: ONeill on October 30, 2022, 10:48:33 PM
Forest were the perfect side to meet. A fine run-out and that's the win that will keep them in good shape after the World Cup.

Arsenal showing how to beat the 'easy' teams
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on October 30, 2022, 11:04:56 PM
Can't believe that side beat Liverpool to nil.

I'm off to the next game v Zurich, so glad they've something to play for.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on November 06, 2022, 02:33:00 PM
34 points from 39 is some shooting. Keep waiting for it to go tits up but looks like a healthy position before the break.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on November 06, 2022, 02:56:28 PM
Miles the better team. Need a back up to Partey.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on November 12, 2022, 09:55:51 PM
Christmas champs at the least.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on November 13, 2022, 12:03:50 AM
What did Arsenal do between seasons to make themselves so much better this year?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on November 13, 2022, 05:41:02 AM
Jesus, Saliba and Zinchenko.

What Jesus has brought to this side cannot be exaggerated. His attitude on the field has been the thing missing from Arsenal for years.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on November 13, 2022, 11:30:25 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on November 13, 2022, 12:03:50 AM
What did Arsenal do between seasons to make themselves so much better this year?

There was huge improvement last year too. Went from 8th to 5th with a young squad. As the squad is so young there will be constant improvement. Throw in the fact that the manager is learning too and improving should be no surprise.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on December 12, 2022, 06:59:17 PM
Almost impossible trying to get a ticket these days. Being a silver member is no advantage. How these tout companies are getting them is infuriating.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on December 12, 2022, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2022, 06:59:17 PM
Almost impossible trying to get a ticket these days. Being a silver member is no advantage. How these tout companies are getting them is infuriating.

Silver myself and have been able to get them.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: The_geezer on December 12, 2022, 08:28:07 PM
Indeed, took me 10 years to get two silver memberships, have just about got tickets the last two times I've tried despite trying to get them as soon as they went on sale. Getting harder to justify paying £60 a year for it
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on December 12, 2022, 08:29:31 PM
Quote from: The_geezer on December 12, 2022, 08:28:07 PM
Indeed, took me 10 years to get two silver memberships, have just about got tickets the last two times I've tried despite trying to get them as soon as they went on sale. Getting harder to justify paying £60 a year for it

You did well to get 2 silvers in 10 years. Waited 14 years to get mine.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on December 12, 2022, 10:49:17 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on December 12, 2022, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2022, 06:59:17 PM
Almost impossible trying to get a ticket these days. Being a silver member is no advantage. How these tout companies are getting them is infuriating.

Silver myself and have been able to get them.

Which matches did you get them for?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on December 13, 2022, 06:06:32 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2022, 10:49:17 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on December 12, 2022, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2022, 06:59:17 PM
Almost impossible trying to get a ticket these days. Being a silver member is no advantage. How these tout companies are getting them is infuriating.

Silver myself and have been able to get them.

Which matches did you get them for?

LiVARpool and the Spuds
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on December 13, 2022, 07:40:44 AM
Brentford game was sold out in 11 mins yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 13, 2022, 09:12:12 AM
Quote from: Jim Bob on December 13, 2022, 06:06:32 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2022, 10:49:17 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on December 12, 2022, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2022, 06:59:17 PM
Almost impossible trying to get a ticket these days. Being a silver member is no advantage. How these tout companies are getting them is infuriating.

Silver myself and have been able to get them.

Which matches did you get them for?

LiVARpool and the Spuds

Hopefully an adult is able to accompany you Jimbob 😉😃
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: The_geezer on December 13, 2022, 09:55:09 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 13, 2022, 09:12:12 AM
Quote from: Jim Bob on December 13, 2022, 06:06:32 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2022, 10:49:17 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on December 12, 2022, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2022, 06:59:17 PM
Almost impossible trying to get a ticket these days. Being a silver member is no advantage. How these tout companies are getting them is infuriating.

Silver myself and have been able to get them.

Which matches did you get them for?

LiVARpool and the Spuds

Hopefully an adult is able to accompany you Jimbob 😉😃

Yeah there was none lefty when i went in yesterday, but i kept refreshing and two together eventually came up
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on December 13, 2022, 05:06:56 PM
Quote from: The_geezer on December 13, 2022, 09:55:09 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 13, 2022, 09:12:12 AM
Quote from: Jim Bob on December 13, 2022, 06:06:32 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2022, 10:49:17 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on December 12, 2022, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2022, 06:59:17 PM
Almost impossible trying to get a ticket these days. Being a silver member is no advantage. How these tout companies are getting them is infuriating.

Silver myself and have been able to get them.

Which matches did you get them for?

LiVARpool and the Spuds

Hopefully an adult is able to accompany you Jimbob 😉😃

Yeah there was none lefty when i went in yesterday, but i kept refreshing and two together eventually came up

That's the way. They ll,pop up eventually on that first day of sale. . You may not necessarily get them at the initial sale.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on December 13, 2022, 05:08:49 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 13, 2022, 09:12:12 AM
Quote from: Jim Bob on December 13, 2022, 06:06:32 AM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2022, 10:49:17 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on December 12, 2022, 08:27:03 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 12, 2022, 06:59:17 PM
Almost impossible trying to get a ticket these days. Being a silver member is no advantage. How these tout companies are getting them is infuriating.

Silver myself and have been able to get them.

Which matches did you get them for?

LiVARpool and the Spuds

Hopefully an adult is able to accompany you Jimbob 😉😃

Rubbish comeback 😝
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 13, 2022, 05:52:02 PM
Enjoy your trip to VARsenal??!!

Ah look, youve dragged me to your level 😂😉😍
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on December 13, 2022, 06:12:00 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 13, 2022, 05:52:02 PM
Enjoy your trip to VARsenal??!!

Ah look, youve dragged me to your level 😂😉😍

That's a cracker! It's the way you tell 'em
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 13, 2022, 06:26:40 PM
Not as good as LiVARpool i admit but ill keep trying
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on December 13, 2022, 08:07:14 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on December 13, 2022, 06:26:40 PM
Not as good as LiVARpool i admit but ill keep trying

You do that !
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on December 27, 2022, 05:32:01 PM
40 points from 15 games. Fairly remarkable start. Was flicking through the archives and very few sides have started like that. In 19/20, Liverpool had 43, City 41 the year before.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Windmill abu on December 27, 2022, 09:05:30 PM
While I am enjoying this seasons title challenge. I think it may be a year too early. That is why Arsenal have to offer William Saliba a contract he cant refuse, to put a stop to all the PSG rumours currently floating about.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2022, 09:30:57 PM
Where would you like to see strengthened in January?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on December 29, 2022, 09:33:14 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 29, 2022, 09:30:57 PM
Where would you like to see strengthened in January?

A proven goal scorer for definite
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2022, 09:37:33 PM
They've sorta gotten this far without one. Arteta wants someone who'll work like fook.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on December 29, 2022, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 29, 2022, 09:30:57 PM
Where would you like to see strengthened in January?

A back up for Partey. That's the one area where an injury will kills us.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on December 29, 2022, 09:45:28 PM
Aye it seems like Partey totally smothers the opposition, allowing Saka, Martinelli, Nketiah to an extent, Odegaard and now Xhaka to do what they want. Not sure if Elneny would offer the same protection.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on December 29, 2022, 09:54:57 PM
Bound to be a sore defeat at some stage. Wonder how the guys mentioned above will reset to that. We ll see then what they're made of
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on December 29, 2022, 09:58:57 PM
Elneny can do a job to give Partey a rest seems like we're in for the Young Fella from Shahktar Mrdyk or however his name is spelt. Looks like Martinelli will be moved into 9 position if Nketiah doesn't step up.

Would like to go for Felix on loan with option to buy but don't think the finances are there to do it
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on December 29, 2022, 10:06:27 PM
Looks like Mudrik is on his way. A lot of dough for him maybe too much.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Rudi on December 31, 2022, 07:04:21 PM
Some pass from Odergard for 4th goal. 7 points clear. Partey outstanding.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: clarshack on December 31, 2022, 07:26:36 PM
Arsenal switched off at 3-0 and have nearly paid the price. Very fortunate the Brighton 3rd goal was ruled offside.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Windmill abu on December 31, 2022, 07:41:08 PM
Quote from: clarshack on December 31, 2022, 07:26:36 PM
Arsenal switched off at 3-0 and have nearly paid the price. Very fortunate the Brighton 3rd goal was ruled offside.

If it was offside then Arsenal were not fortunate. If it wasn't offside then VAR is rubbish. Luck has nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on December 31, 2022, 07:48:20 PM
That wee scare and conceding those goals won't do them a bit of harm.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: SHEEDY on December 31, 2022, 07:51:11 PM
Quote from: Rudi on December 31, 2022, 07:04:21 PM
Some pass from Odergard for 4th goal. 7 points clear. Partey outstanding.
assist of the season, if there is such a thing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Windmill abu on December 31, 2022, 07:58:51 PM
It's time to bring back Wenger to calm things down.  8)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: clarshack on December 31, 2022, 08:28:06 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on December 31, 2022, 07:41:08 PM
Quote from: clarshack on December 31, 2022, 07:26:36 PM
Arsenal switched off at 3-0 and have nearly paid the price. Very fortunate the Brighton 3rd goal was ruled offside.

If it was offside then Arsenal were not fortunate. If it wasn't offside then VAR is rubbish. Luck has nothing to do with it.

VAR supposed to be for clear and obvious errors. Was barely anything in it plus the Brighton player was walking away from goal. Thought it was harsh on Brighton.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on December 31, 2022, 08:35:59 PM
Quote from: clarshack on December 31, 2022, 08:28:06 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on December 31, 2022, 07:41:08 PM
Quote from: clarshack on December 31, 2022, 07:26:36 PM
Arsenal switched off at 3-0 and have nearly paid the price. Very fortunate the Brighton 3rd goal was ruled offside.

If it was offside then Arsenal were not fortunate. If it wasn't offside then VAR is rubbish. Luck has nothing to do with it.

VAR supposed to be for clear and obvious errors. Was barely anything in it plus the Brighton player was walking away from goal. Thought it was harsh on Brighton.

It was offside.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: SHEEDY on December 31, 2022, 08:37:15 PM
Quote from: clarshack on December 31, 2022, 08:28:06 PM
Quote from: Windmill abu on December 31, 2022, 07:41:08 PM
Quote from: clarshack on December 31, 2022, 07:26:36 PM
Arsenal switched off at 3-0 and have nearly paid the price. Very fortunate the Brighton 3rd goal was ruled offside.

If it was offside then Arsenal were not fortunate. If it wasn't offside then VAR is rubbish. Luck has nothing to do with it.

VAR supposed to be for clear and obvious errors. Was barely anything in it plus the Brighton player was walking away from goal. Thought it was harsh on Brighton.
'barely anything in it'? It's either offside or it's not, doesn't matter which way the player is running
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on December 31, 2022, 09:01:20 PM
Tight schedule an all but didn't like those substitutions when they happened, especially White.

But....have to be happy scoring 4 at a difficult ground.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: rodney trotter on January 03, 2023, 12:27:12 PM
Mudryk would be a great signing for Arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on January 03, 2023, 02:11:09 PM
Don't know much about him, been a lot of big money splashed on young players in the prem in recent times and a few haven't done anything of note
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: rodney trotter on January 03, 2023, 06:45:42 PM
He was very good for Ukraine in the recent Nations league games, and performed well in the Champions League.

I don't think he would be an expensive flop like Pepe. He has a fellow Ukrainian at Arsenal to help him adjust.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2023, 09:01:49 PM
Arsenal meeting an in form team and struggling to break them down...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on January 03, 2023, 09:44:23 PM
Big strong well drilled team Newcastle. Can see why they don't concede many atall.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on January 03, 2023, 09:45:54 PM
Not to be reactionary as I felt this before the game anyway - but the squad needs another bit of quality to change games. Still not convinced NKetiah should be anywhere near a top teams main striker. He's just OK as backup. A top marksman would have buried that chance even though his touch was good.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on January 03, 2023, 09:46:28 PM
Scandalous officiating there tonight.. How the Gabriel one wasn't a penalty I don't know. Newcastle played like a rich Burnley there tonight, they'll play that bog football away from home the rest of the season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Walter Cronc on January 03, 2023, 10:06:24 PM
Quote from: BrotherMore6592 on January 03, 2023, 09:45:54 PM
Not to be reactionary as I felt this before the game anyway - but the squad needs another bit of quality to change games. Still not convinced NKetiah should be anywhere near a top teams main striker. He's just OK as backup. A top marksman would have buried that chance even though his touch was good.

He is the back up striker so your point doesn't make sense. Was a super save by Pope!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on January 03, 2023, 10:42:20 PM
Yeah he's the backup striker for a top team, he shouldn't be regardless of Jesus being injured.

He'd struggle to start for a mid to lower table prem team
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on January 03, 2023, 10:47:00 PM
We're looking at Felix and Myrduk to possibly getting them both in.. Needed after tonight as think we'll struggle to break teams down if they sit back like Newcastle did tonight
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 03, 2023, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on January 03, 2023, 09:46:28 PM
Newcastle played like a rich Burnley there tonight, they'll play that bog football away from home the rest of the season
Did simliar against Man United in Old Trafford back in October, came for the draw and got it. Eddie Howe in fairness has them well organised, difficult to beat and has them well drilled on time wasting and slowing the game down.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Walter Cronc on January 03, 2023, 11:18:43 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 03, 2023, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on January 03, 2023, 09:46:28 PM
Newcastle played like a rich Burnley there tonight, they'll play that bog football away from home the rest of the season
Did simliar against Man United in Old Trafford back in October, came for the draw and got it. Eddie Howe in fairness has them well organised, difficult to beat and has them well drilled on time wasting and slowing the game down.

If I recall they done the same at Anfield but Liverpool pipped them in injury time. They won't give a damm though. Serious workrate tracking back all game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on January 11, 2023, 01:52:16 AM
We'll be approaching the half way mark of the January transfer window in a few days and no business done. Surely we've learned from previous years this decade where burying your head in the sand and not investing comes back to haunt you later in the season?

I'll still be delighted with champions league football but if for some mad reason we happened to slip out of top 4 and no business was done in January it would be a head on the chopping block offence regardless of who's on the line IMO
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on January 11, 2023, 08:47:22 AM
Quote from: BrotherMore6592 on January 11, 2023, 01:52:16 AM
We'll be approaching the half way mark of the January transfer window in a few days and no business done. Surely we've learned from previous years this decade where burying your head in the sand and not investing comes back to haunt you later in the season?

I'll still be delighted with champions league football but if for some mad reason we happened to slip out of top 4 and no business was done in January it would be a head on the chopping block offence regardless of who's on the line IMO

Myrduk is essentially done.. Another midfielder would be nice to have as Lokonga doesn't look cut out for it and can't rely on Mo or Parteys fitness.

Don't think a striker is on the cards with Myrduk done Martinelli will be the back up striker if Nketiah gets injured but tbf he doesn't really seem to be injury prone
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on January 11, 2023, 11:33:28 AM
Yeah I'll be delighted if Mudryk deal gets done.

Do you think they're gonna have to meet the £85m fee?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on January 13, 2023, 11:13:53 PM
Seems a big fee for someone no one really knew about before the whole transfer stuff.

On the other hand, any help is welcome in terms of numbers.

Dreading this Spurs game on Sunday. Would take a draw.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on January 14, 2023, 09:48:13 PM
Mudryk is gone then, so be it

Onto the next one. I'd prefer two or three very good players for the price we were going to pay for him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on January 14, 2023, 10:57:15 PM
Chelsea is a mad oul club.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on January 14, 2023, 11:16:51 PM
bit of a blow for arsenal. Same time its happened in a position of strength, and fcuk knows what chelseas strategy is just now. Strong team/squad atm and still time to add to the squad
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Walter Cronc on January 15, 2023, 07:58:08 AM
Chelsea have no strategy whatsoever. It's pure scattergun. They've spent 500 mill in 6 months. You wonder how much involvement Potter had in this deal. A Ukrainian joining a club built on Russian money...nice wee story for the children.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: rodney trotter on January 15, 2023, 12:59:08 PM
Chelsea aiming to bring in 2 more players in the window, after Mudryk. Financial fair play obviously mean nothing
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on January 15, 2023, 03:06:37 PM
And then a contract till 2030. Bohely a clown.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on January 15, 2023, 10:30:24 PM
That was comfortable today. Not sure if Conte's going to get a tune out of the Spuds.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on January 15, 2023, 11:56:17 PM
Excellent. A very professional performance, defence were outstanding. Very likeable team even for neutrals

The bench is very light though , we need players in now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Puckoon on January 19, 2023, 05:41:08 PM
Thoughts on Trossard signing? Always thought he was a dangerous enough forward, seems to have a knack for scrappy goals as well as decent finishes. Good addition to the squad so long as Arteta knocks whatever nonsense he was up to with Brighton out of him.

Be nice (if unlikely) for the Spuds to do us a solid this evening, big performance needed this weekend as well

Anyone believing yet?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on January 19, 2023, 06:25:13 PM
Decent value and offers cover across front three. No too early to believe yet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2023, 08:01:55 PM
A couple (or more) players with decent experience, preferably in the Premier League, is ideal. Trossard is one.

I think Arsenal need a couple of decent bodies in to see the season out challenging for anything. Apart from the fullbacks, and a fit Smith-Rowe, there's no one really I'd have much confidence in on the bench.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: seafoid on January 19, 2023, 08:32:31 PM
A dose of food poisoning would wipe Arsenal out. They need a deeper squad to win the title.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on January 19, 2023, 08:43:53 PM
That sounds like a threat.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: seafoid on January 19, 2023, 09:00:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCe69LhjULw
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on January 22, 2023, 06:30:10 PM
What were City at giving Arsenal Zinchenko.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Gold on January 22, 2023, 06:32:15 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on January 22, 2023, 06:30:10 PM
What were City at giving Arsenal Zinchenko.

Absolute madness. He's a complete and utter baller. All the City players loved him and thought he was
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: gawa316 on January 22, 2023, 06:33:25 PM
Time to start believing
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: laoislad on January 22, 2023, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on January 22, 2023, 06:33:25 PM
Time to start believing
The stars are aligning alright.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 22, 2023, 06:51:28 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 22, 2023, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on January 22, 2023, 06:33:25 PM
Time to start believing
The stars are aligning alright.
Best to say what all Arsenal supporters are thinking. It's Arsenal's title to lose!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on January 22, 2023, 06:57:35 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 22, 2023, 06:51:28 PM
Quote from: laoislad on January 22, 2023, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on January 22, 2023, 06:33:25 PM
Time to start believing
The stars are aligning alright.
Best to say what all Arsenal supporters are thinking. It's Arsenal's title to lose!

Never. One game at a time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2023, 06:58:54 PM
That was quality entertainment Arsenal just need to win the games and stop looking over their shoulder at City's charge.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on January 22, 2023, 08:24:43 PM
Didn't realise how decent Utd are. They got up to speed quickly under Ten Hag.

19 games left. If someone said, we're having half a season and Arsenal have a 5-point start over everyone else, I'd be hoping for challenging for 4th. A ten-point start, I'd think City would overcome that handily too.

Enjoying the run but still think City will have to lose another 4/5 times. Could happen.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on January 22, 2023, 08:34:15 PM
Thought Trossard looked good when he came on.. Might be worth putting him in against Everton, Martinelli looks tired
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on January 22, 2023, 08:59:06 PM
Interesting who they rest v City. Imagine Tierney, new centre half, Tomi, Trossard, Smith Rowe start.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on January 22, 2023, 09:29:31 PM
Have they a replacement for Partey on Friday? I think Elneny is injured.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Never beat the deeler on January 22, 2023, 11:36:27 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 22, 2023, 08:24:43 PM
Didn't realise how decent Utd are. They got up to speed quickly under Ten Hag.

19 games left. If someone said, we're having half a season and Arsenal have a 5-point start over everyone else, I'd be hoping for challenging for 4th. A ten-point start, I'd think City would overcome that handily too.

Enjoying the run but still think City will have to lose another 4/5 times. Could happen.

it would be an 8 point head start tho, given City were on 42pts after 19 games compared to Arsenal's 50
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on January 23, 2023, 10:00:03 AM
Be some bottle job if they lose it from here. Squad depth be key but think Arsenal have enough to do it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on January 23, 2023, 10:15:18 AM
 ::) Boring  ::)

Haven't you a team to wind up on the tyrone club thread? Or it's not that time of year yet...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Turf on January 23, 2023, 10:26:05 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 23, 2023, 10:00:03 AM
Be some bottle job if they lose it from here. Squad depth be key but think Arsenal have enough to do it.
Man United were only in the title race for 3 days before they bottled it  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on January 28, 2023, 08:48:06 AM
Perfect result last night. Lost so less games and City extra games. Able to play squad players and Turner and Trossard impressed while still were able to compete away to city. Obvious thing is though if anything happens Partey we are in trouble.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 28, 2023, 08:49:55 AM
Quote from: Turf on January 23, 2023, 10:26:05 AM
Quote from: trailer on January 23, 2023, 10:00:03 AM
Be some bottle job if they lose it from here. Squad depth be key but think Arsenal have enough to do it.
Man United were only in the title race for 3 days before they bottled it  ;D

Utd were never in a title race.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: seafoid on January 28, 2023, 10:25:31 AM
I think because of the World Cup the schedule is 3 games behind where it would usually be. April will be the deciding factor when everything is sorted out.
8 points isn't enough at this stage.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on January 29, 2023, 11:26:44 PM
Big money being thrown about for Caicedo

Looks like Chelsea prefer Enzo Fernandez but you never know with them

Haven't heard any more on partey about the supposed rib injury from Friday

Everton will be very tricky with Dyche, he loved playing arsenal
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on January 29, 2023, 11:41:41 PM
Partly will be ok for Everton game they say. Injury not as bad as first feared
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on January 29, 2023, 11:45:35 PM
Good stuff

Don't think they should go any further with Caicedo

If they're hellbent on getting him maybe that's different.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on January 31, 2023, 09:22:19 AM
I can't believe we're buying a Chelsea reject. Has never worked out before.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on January 31, 2023, 10:31:53 AM
I thought it was just a smokescreen to force through caicedo but it looks to be the real deal.

Not convinced at all he passes backwards and slows things down. Doesn't suit our fast play. Unless Mikel sees something else

There would be better young midfielders for half the price of caicedo  (tielemans)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Look-Up! on February 01, 2023, 02:17:49 PM
Edu getting a lot of grief but interesting to see how Arteta integrates his new signings. I rate him as a manager and they've landed a very experienced player on sensible wages. If it's bad business, at this stage, I'd say it's by Chelsea.

Obviously they're in a great position and the temptation is to go for it, but you still have to admire them sticking to their guns, especially after this time last year and how they subsequently fell short.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on February 04, 2023, 09:54:48 PM
That was a bit flat today from the off. You have to give Everton credit too. Neutralised Martinelli, Saka and especially Odegaard. They gave Odegaard a 5-man shadow throughout.

Partey looked a bit off too. And every corner was a danger.

Brentford will try the same so they'll need 2 of those three back on form. I was surprised at the Martinelli substitution as he was finally getting into the same at that stage.

Goodison not a happy hunting ground for a long time now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on February 04, 2023, 10:27:31 PM
Yeah wouldn't hit the panic stations, a flat game like that was always gonna come. In truth we had no real chances, Everton fully deserved it.

If City don't win tomorrow we're off the hook but if not a win is needed next week.

Brentford are unbeaten in 9 so a draw wouldn't be a bad result against them but prob need the win unless spurs hold city.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Puckoon on February 06, 2023, 11:23:12 PM
We never did like a cold night in Burnley- that was coming from the moment Dyche was appointed. Pleasantly surprised at Spurs doing us a favor, although I can still taste the bile at having to quietly cheer for them.

2-4 points a must from the City Games, and Brentford a potential banana skin for us as well.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on February 11, 2023, 10:23:23 PM
A big strapping centre forward would have been handy today, even to give the opposition something different to think about.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on February 13, 2023, 07:30:18 AM
Or even just Jesus .

I know this won't go down well but even though Nketiah has played a blinder for the most part he's not good enough for a top side. I can't see him starting at most of the top 6 clubs in prem
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on February 13, 2023, 09:21:17 AM
Squeaky bum time... Arsenal implosion incoming...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on February 15, 2023, 09:21:20 PM
Some can't handle the pressure
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 15, 2023, 09:23:39 PM
Key game in the title race and Arsenal have done an Arsenal on it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on February 15, 2023, 09:35:25 PM
We never do well February/March.. Pep set up well, knows Gabriel isn't good on the ball and let him have it, was responsible for the 2nd/3rd goal. City probably run away with it now
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on February 16, 2023, 09:02:48 AM
Arsenal do well to get 3rd. Think Utd will finish above them. Mentally weak which was demonstrated by their defensive performance.
Arteta is an absolute header. Rory Gallagher like. At one stage I thought he was playing on the wing.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on February 16, 2023, 07:31:53 PM
The fatigue of a light squad catching up on Arsenal. City didn't even use Alvarez last night. Imagine the difference he'd make to the Gunners.

I'd like to see Tierney, Trossard, possibly Vieira, and Tomiyasu again starting v Villa on Saturday. No win there and it's becoming a worrying slump.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on February 17, 2023, 11:14:23 AM
I wouldn't change too much. City had lowest ever possession in a match under Pep so shows how well Arsenal played. Just mistakes were poor. I'd probably take out Xhaka and replace with Vieria. Xhaka showing signs of fatigue. Maybe try Gabi central and Trossard out left as Eddie has more or less played every minute since Jesus injury.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on February 17, 2023, 11:44:34 AM
How long would it take a fatigued player to find his freshness again ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on February 18, 2023, 07:21:05 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on March 02, 2023, 06:02:43 PM
What yiz make of Trossard so far?

Seems to be decently slipping into the way Arteta wants them to play. I was afraid he'd be too selfish.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on March 02, 2023, 07:42:40 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 02, 2023, 06:02:43 PM
What yiz make of Trossard so far?

Seems to be decently slipping into the way Arteta wants them to play. I was afraid he'd be too selfish.

Very astute bit of business.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Look-Up! on March 03, 2023, 12:22:48 AM
Jorginho looks a shrewd acquisition too. Smith-Rowe also a great talent if he can get back up to speed. They have a nice little run of games until they go to Liverpool at Easter. Three home (Bournemouth,Palace,Leeds) and Fulham away. Do well in those and get Jesus back start of April, they could be in a great position before the run in. City have to play Liverpool before that too.   
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 03, 2023, 09:37:49 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on March 03, 2023, 12:22:48 AM
Jorginho looks a shrewd acquisition too. Smith-Rowe also a great talent if he can get back up to speed. They have a nice little run of games until they go to Liverpool at Easter. Three home (Bournemouth,Palace,Leeds) and Fulham away. Do well in those and get Jesus back start of April, they could be in a great position before the run in. City have to play Liverpool before that too.

I don't think playing Liverpool at the minute is anything to fear unfortunately..... 😢
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on March 03, 2023, 10:35:16 AM
Quote from: trailer on February 16, 2023, 09:02:48 AM
Arsenal do well to get 3rd. Think Utd will finish above them. Mentally weak which was demonstrated by their defensive performance.
Arteta is an absolute header. Rory Gallagher like. At one stage I thought he was playing on the wing.
;D :o



:P ::) ::)
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Puckoon on March 03, 2023, 05:00:29 PM
Thought Trossard was a great buy - still do, and think there is a lot more to come from him.

Jorginho a great option as well, although it is frightening when he has to turn and try and get back - lacking pace for sure.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on March 03, 2023, 11:05:48 PM
Think Tierney will hang about?

He has gone from being talked about future captain to a Europa Cup player.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on March 04, 2023, 12:12:59 AM
he's been plagued by injuries but we knew that before he joined from Celtic.

He was arsenals most consistent performer I felt in the darker days when emery was around / beginning of arteta.

Missed a lot of football and zinchenko came in hungry with a point to prove from Man City as a rotation player.

I'm still think Tierney has a lot to offer any team and saw him as a real threat to Robertson in Scotland at one stage. He needs his confidence back and can strike a ball and cross one at that too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on March 04, 2023, 12:46:13 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 03, 2023, 11:05:48 PM
Think Tierney will hang about?

He has gone from being talked about future captain to a Europa Cup player.

I don't think he's ever really settled? Watching the All or Nothing doc he seems closest to the chef in the club obviously both being Scottish is a big factor and he does get a bit homesick.. I think he moves to Newcastle in the summer imo Tavares has had a great season on loan at Marseille so I think he comes back and Tierney moves on. I rate KT a lot but just injuries and him wanting game time make it best solution
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Rudi on March 04, 2023, 05:04:17 PM
Brilliant result, some finish from Nelson.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: laoislad on March 04, 2023, 05:07:16 PM
The stars are aligning for Arsenal. Hard to see them being stopped at this stage.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on March 04, 2023, 05:10:34 PM
One thing that is noticeable is that Arsenal getting raw deal from VAR. Already have had two apologies this season and then today, how many stonewall penalties not given?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2023, 05:16:08 PM
Think there was come obvious one, others today were not really stonewalls
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2023, 05:37:14 PM
Think I scudded Trossard there. Sorry.

Not a pile on the bench there today and no real recognised striker.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Armamike on March 04, 2023, 06:11:12 PM
Not much sign of this Arsenal implosion yet.  A lot to like about this team.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on March 04, 2023, 06:51:43 PM
Their Sheffield Wednesday moment. Can't lose it from here.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on March 04, 2023, 07:03:10 PM
Naive from Arteta today imo.. Thought the team selection was poor as if you're challenging for the league it's important to play your best team, Tomi was poor today and shouldn't have started ahead of Ben White.. Vieira grew into the game as it went on but we missed Xhaka down that left hand side with Zini pushing on leaves a lot of space down that side and they exploited it for their first goal.

Not sure why Smith-Rowe came off (subbed the sub) hopefully just managing his minutes but good to see Nelson grab the game by the scruff of the neck.. Done well on his loans but never had the confidence in an arsenal shirt
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on March 04, 2023, 07:58:04 PM
Naive from Arteta 🤣🤣🤣

why don't you send him your number so you can keep him right before he picks his teams in the future 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2023, 08:01:20 PM
I'd agree with that to an extent about Arteta. His changes didn't work.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on March 04, 2023, 08:02:21 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on March 04, 2023, 07:58:04 PM
Naive from Arteta 🤣🤣🤣

why don't you send him your number so you can keep him right before he picks his teams in the future 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Rotation for starting 11 was naive, was it not? Else he wouldn't have need change it at half time?.. Prem is priority play 2nd team or rotate in Europa league play strongest in the league because City are bearing down and need to win every game they way they go on a run
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: HiMucker on March 04, 2023, 08:53:14 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 04, 2023, 06:51:43 PM
Their Sheffield Wednesday moment. Can't lose it from here.
You are the oracle of sport trailer lol
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: HiMucker on March 04, 2023, 08:55:02 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on March 04, 2023, 07:03:10 PM
Naive from Arteta today imo.. Thought the team selection was poor as if you're challenging for the league it's important to play your best team, Tomi was poor today and shouldn't have started ahead of Ben White.. Vieira grew into the game as it went on but we missed Xhaka down that left hand side with Zini pushing on leaves a lot of space down that side and they exploited it for their first goal.

Not sure why Smith-Rowe came off (subbed the sub) hopefully just managing his minutes but good to see Nelson grab the game by the scruff of the neck.. Done well on his loans but never had the confidence in an arsenal shirt
aye he's an absolute clown  :D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: HiMucker on March 04, 2023, 08:59:25 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 04, 2023, 08:01:20 PM
I'd agree with that to an extent about Arteta. His changes didn't work.
No way. If you are a tittle challenging team you can't be perfect or slick all the time. The measure is when you are put up against it. Today was one of those days. Arteta and the team answered that. Superb result and cone back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on March 04, 2023, 09:27:36 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on March 04, 2023, 08:55:02 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on March 04, 2023, 07:03:10 PM
Naive from Arteta today imo.. Thought the team selection was poor as if you're challenging for the league it's important to play your best team, Tomi was poor today and shouldn't have started ahead of Ben White.. Vieira grew into the game as it went on but we missed Xhaka down that left hand side with Zini pushing on leaves a lot of space down that side and they exploited it for their first goal.

Not sure why Smith-Rowe came off (subbed the sub) hopefully just managing his minutes but good to see Nelson grab the game by the scruff of the neck.. Done well on his loans but never had the confidence in an arsenal shirt
aye he's an absolute clown  :D

Didn't say he was a clown did I? Said it was Naive to rotate in crunch game and it was, Tomiasyu was completely off the pace and Veiria was off the pace first half too.. he corrected it at half time by bringing Ben White on and I hope that will stand to him, same when he chased the game at Old Trafford earlier in the season he learned from that
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on March 04, 2023, 09:38:10 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on March 04, 2023, 08:59:25 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 04, 2023, 08:01:20 PM
I'd agree with that to an extent about Arteta. His changes didn't work.
No way. If you are a tittle challenging team you can't be perfect or slick all the time. The measure is when you are put up against it. Today was one of those days. Arteta and the team answered that. Superb result and cone back.

That's fair enough too. I just thought that with the Europa on the horizon, it wasn't the time to not start the best 11 so far this year. But it turned out ok.

Is there a striker atall in the panel fit? Who do you start on Thursday.

Tierney, keeper, Vieira, Nelson, Holding and Tomiyasu?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: HiMucker on March 04, 2023, 09:42:10 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on March 04, 2023, 09:27:36 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on March 04, 2023, 08:55:02 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on March 04, 2023, 07:03:10 PM
Naive from Arteta today imo.. Thought the team selection was poor as if you're challenging for the league it's important to play your best team, Tomi was poor today and shouldn't have started ahead of Ben White.. Vieira grew into the game as it went on but we missed Xhaka down that left hand side with Zini pushing on leaves a lot of space down that side and they exploited it for their first goal.

Not sure why Smith-Rowe came off (subbed the sub) hopefully just managing his minutes but good to see Nelson grab the game by the scruff of the neck.. Done well on his loans but never had the confidence in an arsenal shirt
aye he's an absolute clown  :D

Didn't say he was a clown did I? Said it was Naive to rotate in crunch game and it was, Tomiasyu was completely off the pace and Veiria was off the pace first half too.. he corrected it at half time by bringing Ben White on and I hope that will stand to him, same when he chased the game at Old Trafford earlier in the season he learned from that
Alright apologies. I dont think he was naive and I would say it was more necessity than sqaud rotation. I think at this level they rely a fair bit  more on the data as opposed to just willy nilly giving someone a rest/chance. Though in fairness from watching "the all or nothing"  doc it was amazing to see how much these guys including Arteta were learning on the job.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on March 04, 2023, 09:43:06 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 04, 2023, 09:38:10 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on March 04, 2023, 08:59:25 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 04, 2023, 08:01:20 PM
I'd agree with that to an extent about Arteta. His changes didn't work.
No way. If you are a tittle challenging team you can't be perfect or slick all the time. The measure is when you are put up against it. Today was one of those days. Arteta and the team answered that. Superb result and cone back.

That's fair enough too. I just thought that with the Europa on the horizon, it wasn't the time to not start the best 11 so far this year. But it turned out ok.

Is there a striker atall in the panel fit? Who do you start on Thursday.

Tierney, keeper, Vieira, Nelson, Holding and Tomiyasu?

Turner, Tomiasyu, Holding, Gabriel, Tierney, Jorginho, Xhaka, Vieira, Nelson, Martinelli and Nketiah be my team for Thursday I reckon.. Nketiah a 50/50 for today Arteta said in the presser but should be ok for Thursday
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on March 05, 2023, 12:01:12 AM
Quote from: Mourne Red on March 04, 2023, 09:27:36 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on March 04, 2023, 08:55:02 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on March 04, 2023, 07:03:10 PM
Naive from Arteta today imo.. Thought the team selection was poor as if you're challenging for the league it's important to play your best team, Tomi was poor today and shouldn't have started ahead of Ben White.. Vieira grew into the game as it went on but we missed Xhaka down that left hand side with Zini pushing on leaves a lot of space down that side and they exploited it for their first goal.

Not sure why Smith-Rowe came off (subbed the sub) hopefully just managing his minutes but good to see Nelson grab the game by the scruff of the neck.. Done well on his loans but never had the confidence in an arsenal shirt
aye he's an absolute clown  :D

Didn't say he was a clown did I? Said it was Naive to rotate in crunch game and it was, Tomiasyu was completely off the pace and Veiria was off the pace first half too.. he corrected it at half time by bringing Ben White on and I hope that will stand to him, same when he chased the game at Old Trafford earlier in the season he learned from that

What's your definition of naive ?

Were you thinking he was naive when you saw the team selection before the game started ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: An Watcher on March 05, 2023, 08:14:33 AM
Arteta knows the score but he's also thinking of the run in.  Trying to rest players up is understandable.  Arsenal should have been strong enough to win with that starting 11 but it didn't work out. 
The other option is to play the same team every week, get injuries etc and then lose games.
It's not rocket science
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Armamike on March 05, 2023, 09:38:41 AM
He should forget about the Europa league.  Rest players for those fixtures.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on March 05, 2023, 12:42:54 PM
Yeah f*ck the europa league at this stage couldn't give a toss about it. Sure we're basically guaranteed champions league at this stage
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on March 05, 2023, 05:59:01 PM
Quote from: trailer on February 16, 2023, 09:02:48 AM
Arsenal do well to get 3rd. Think Utd will finish above them. Mentally weak which was demonstrated by their defensive performance.
Arteta is an absolute header. Rory Gallagher like. At one stage I thought he was playing on the wing.

Haha Trailer you absolute spanner. That statement stood the test of time.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on March 05, 2023, 11:01:40 PM
Ramsdale made a couple of crucial saves yesterday.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Windmill abu on March 06, 2023, 12:33:54 AM
Quote from: ONeill on March 05, 2023, 11:01:40 PM
Ramsdale made a couple of crucial saves yesterday.
Totally agree. He is like Jans Lehman. Reliable and under appreciated. It is only when we look back that we will see how good he was
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: From the Bunker on March 10, 2023, 12:00:31 AM
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Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on March 10, 2023, 10:25:40 PM
I've seen that stat a few times now, but would also like to see the info behind it.

Xhaka hasn't played every game in recent seasons. Elneny? Holding?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on March 12, 2023, 04:22:37 PM
Arsenal had a very strong bench today.
Trossard is a lovely player. Never realised so technically good.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on March 12, 2023, 09:31:11 PM
Yes, I was thinking of that bench today - when Nketiah is fit again, will he get a place on it? If so, it'll be for Nelson or Holding.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on March 12, 2023, 09:44:25 PM
Thought Trossard was immense today, same with Xhaka and Partey really drove the team on.. Thought Fulham would have put up more of a fight but nice we could take the foot off in 2nd half and get Jesus some minutes.

Think Tomiasyu or Nelson will drop out of Nketiah comes into the squad.. Holding is good to bring on when we need to see out a game and really our only back-up CB on the bench.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on March 12, 2023, 10:16:50 PM
Tomiasyu plays anywhere along backline so will always make bench. Reckon Eddie pushes Nelson out of squad. Kiwior didn't make bench today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on March 12, 2023, 10:18:01 PM
What's your team for Thursday?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on March 12, 2023, 10:22:06 PM
Turner
Tomi Rob Gabriel Tierney
Jorginho Xhaka Vieria
Nelson Martinelli Trossard
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on March 12, 2023, 10:24:59 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on March 12, 2023, 10:22:06 PM
Turner
Tomi Rob Gabriel Tierney
Jorginho Xhaka Vieria
Nelson Martinelli Trossard

Would swap Trossard for Smith-Rowe but agree with the rest of it. Don't want Trossard to aggravate the groin injury he got against Bournemouth 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on March 12, 2023, 10:25:51 PM
Maybe Smith Rowe for Trossard?

After Palace on Sunday, there's a break.

How many of that squad aren't internationals?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on March 12, 2023, 10:33:53 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 12, 2023, 10:25:51 PM
Maybe Smith Rowe for Trossard?

After Palace on Sunday, there's a break.

How many of that squad aren't internationals?

All the Brazilians weren't called up so Jesus could get a full game against Palace Monday week then plenty of recovery after that. Partey has been called up for Ghana unfortunately then Xhaka, Zini, Tierny and Saka will be away. Not sure if Saliba will get a call up
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on March 19, 2023, 04:17:27 PM
Looked a bit tired at the back but good 3 points now 13 days until our next game.. Hopefully players get rested up and Saliba gets through rehab ok to be back for Liverpool. Kivor looked good when he came on, Holding was a bit off the pace until the first goal then was solid after it I thought.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on March 21, 2023, 09:20:29 PM
Disappointing about Tomiasyu. A strong alternative in all positions is a healthy squad. It was good to see Tierney get a few more minutes under the belt. You get the feeling the back line will be stretched the most over the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on March 21, 2023, 09:30:56 PM
I see Arsenal have sent a physio with Partey to Ghana. He is the one player we really can't afford injured on international duty.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2023, 12:39:53 AM
That was a comfortable enough win today. Thought Trossard played well.

The real crunch starting now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on April 02, 2023, 01:23:42 AM
Mostly comes down to the game at City, and if City win the game in hand.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: RedHand88 on April 02, 2023, 01:45:01 AM
If yous are still 5 ahead when the game against City rolls round, you'll be fine.

Enjoy the ride! Been too long for yous lads. Hoping yous go on and do it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: laoislad on April 02, 2023, 11:10:57 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 02, 2023, 01:45:01 AM
If yous are still 5 ahead when the game against City rolls round, you'll be fine.

Enjoy the ride! Been too long for yous lads. Hoping yous go on and do it.
Anyone(apart from Man United) is better than City winning it so even though I don't like Arsenal I hope they beat City to it.
Still hope we batter them next weekend though obviously...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Piskin on April 02, 2023, 05:50:49 PM
Making for a great end to the season again, Pep has been here before so I think City will win it.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on April 02, 2023, 07:10:28 PM
Quote from: Piskin on April 02, 2023, 05:50:49 PM
Making for a great end to the season again, Pep has been here before so I think City will win it.

Newcastle away going to be a big one too ...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on April 02, 2023, 07:11:15 PM
Quote from: Piskin on April 02, 2023, 05:50:49 PM
Making for a great end to the season again, Pep has been here before so I think City will win it.

City's run-in looks quite a bit easier.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on April 02, 2023, 11:16:18 PM
2012 the last time Arsenal won at Liverpool in the league I think. Even getting a point there is tough for the Gunners.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on April 09, 2023, 08:56:59 PM
Dunno what to make of that. Think they had a chance to claim all 3 points due to the opening 30 mins.

No leeway now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: marty34 on April 09, 2023, 09:21:04 PM
2-0 up, then pegged back to 2-2.

Arteta probably happy with draw  before the game.  In saying that, he'd be disappointed at losing the goal before half-time.

They could have went in 2-0 up and the team talk could have been different.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Piskin on April 09, 2023, 09:29:44 PM
Pressure on Arsenal bigtime now. Lucky to come away with a point at the end.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 09, 2023, 09:36:49 PM
Some shite talked. There was pressure on them post Everton. They won 7 on the spin. City game decisive
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on April 09, 2023, 09:48:09 PM
The City game wasn't decisive til now. Definitely adds pressure to win the rest.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 09, 2023, 09:50:50 PM
It was always decisive. Liverpool away was hardly ever a gimme..1 point gained today. Don't lose at City and they'll win the league
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: screenexile on April 16, 2023, 07:27:18 PM
Are you lads ok there? You would have taken 2nd at the start of the year!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on April 16, 2023, 09:13:24 PM
Shitting the nest
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2023, 09:48:00 PM
Today's result didn't really make any difference after last week's draw. The two results combined have taken away the safety bumper.

This game at City is probably the biggest game Arsenal has played in over a decade. At present, I can see a comfortable City win. But you never know. A draw is a good result.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 16, 2023, 09:57:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 16, 2023, 09:48:00 PM
Today's result didn't really make any difference after last week's draw. The two results combined have taken away the safety bumper.

This game at City is probably the biggest game Arsenal has played in over a decade. At present, I can see a comfortable City win. But you never know. A draw is a good result.
You think they've got the mentality to see it through? I'd say that's them gone.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on April 16, 2023, 10:03:47 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 16, 2023, 09:57:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 16, 2023, 09:48:00 PM
Today's result didn't really make any difference after last week's draw. The two results combined have taken away the safety bumper.

This game at City is probably the biggest game Arsenal has played in over a decade. At present, I can see a comfortable City win. But you never know. A draw is a good result.
You think they've got the mentality to see it through? I'd say that's them gone.

Opinions are like a@@@holes.... Everyone has one.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on April 16, 2023, 10:10:44 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 16, 2023, 09:57:33 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 16, 2023, 09:48:00 PM
Today's result didn't really make any difference after last week's draw. The two results combined have taken away the safety bumper.

This game at City is probably the biggest game Arsenal has played in over a decade. At present, I can see a comfortable City win. But you never know. A draw is a good result.
You think they've got the mentality to see it through? I'd say that's them gone.

Hard to know. It's a pity that the return of Jesus has coincided with a drop in standards from their key players - Saka, Odegaard and Partey. Throw in the instability of the back 4 right now.

It's a case now of beating Southampton and then throwing the kitchen sink at City. If they come away from those games with 4 points, they have 5 games to see it out. But at the minute I think Pep has City boiling nicely and could really put Arsenal out of their misery.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: RedHand88 on April 21, 2023, 08:10:47 PM
Uh oh.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 21, 2023, 08:17:34 PM
Theo Walcott coming back to haunt.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: screenexile on April 21, 2023, 09:31:16 PM
Same old Arsenal...
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: anportmorforjfc on April 21, 2023, 09:32:02 PM
First full Arsenal game I have watched all season, Zinchenko seems to be a complete liability?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on April 21, 2023, 09:32:33 PM
League over.. Hopefully City win the treble to take the smugness out of United fans
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: snoopdog on April 21, 2023, 09:44:39 PM
Everybody knew Arsenal were gonna blow up unfortunately.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2023, 09:45:57 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on April 21, 2023, 09:32:33 PM
League over.. Hopefully City win the treble to take the smugness out of United fans
What smugness  ;D

You hope another English team wins the treble after it's been done to take away their smugness?

Type of chat you have with your mate in primary school  ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: AustinPowers on April 21, 2023, 09:53:55 PM
Oh hang on.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: seafoid on April 21, 2023, 10:00:24 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on April 21, 2023, 09:53:55 PM
Oh hang on.....
BBC say 8 minutes of stoppage time
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: AustinPowers on April 21, 2023, 10:04:15 PM
...never mind
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: jcpen on April 21, 2023, 10:05:16 PM
Quote from: screenexile on April 21, 2023, 09:31:16 PM
Same old Arsenal...
3 points from the last 9. Dreadful run of results. Hard to see Man City not winning it now.
Has been some collapse from Arsenal.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: seafoid on April 21, 2023, 10:09:30 PM
They have to beat Man City
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 21, 2023, 10:10:39 PM
This run-in reminds me of Liverpool last season when the title was theirs to lose and just needed to beat Tottenham at home who they always beat at home yet drew.  Arsenal's title to lose, tonight at home to Southampton who they always beat and drew.  Main hope for Arsenal now is they don't suffer a title lose as bad as Liverpool have done this season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Sportacus on April 21, 2023, 10:32:32 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on April 21, 2023, 09:32:02 PM
First full Arsenal game I have watched all season, Zinchenko seems to be a complete liability?
But that's not the narrative.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on April 21, 2023, 10:56:48 PM
This is an interesting match at the Etihad now. Looks like Arsenal are in middlin form - scoring but conceding.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Ghost on April 21, 2023, 11:15:41 PM
Win their 6 remaining games they'll be grand.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: seafoid on April 22, 2023, 08:26:37 AM
The squad mustn't be deep enough. April and May are when the pressure is highest.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Sportacus on April 22, 2023, 10:11:34 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 22, 2023, 08:26:37 AM
The squad mustn't be deep enough. April and May are when the pressure is highest.
It's not the squad depth.  It's a bottle job. You can see it in their faces, wee creators.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on April 22, 2023, 10:46:57 AM
Could be worse, you could be shouting from the rooftops about winning the ribena cup (which never meant anything before this season)

Have the worst defensive signing of all time at £86m starting centre back

Shouted about a quadruple a few weeks ago now they've f*ck all left once Brighton knock them out tomorrow

I'd take pinning Man City to the end over that shambles any day

They're fighting for top top 4, last season we finished 5th behind spurs
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 10:58:45 AM
Arsenal thread and ones going on about Utd ;D

Christ
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on April 22, 2023, 11:08:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 10:58:45 AM
Arsenal thread and ones going on about Utd ;D

Christ

If I recall on the previous page United fans appeared on here first? Evidence is there

Happens all the time on the Liverpool thread, normal enough I would say

Good job there's no Chelsea thread  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: jcpen on April 22, 2023, 11:31:00 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 22, 2023, 10:58:45 AM
Arsenal thread and ones going on about Utd ;D

Christ
There was a poster whom I believe to be a Man United fan on the previous page going on about Liverpool in a bizarre post.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: From the Bunker on April 22, 2023, 11:55:21 AM
Don't get the all the negativity about Arsenal. They are top of the Premiership. They've went from not being able to get into the top 4 to title contenders.

This season has been a season of everybody waiting for Arsenal to choke, fold or collapse. In fairness they have answered their critics umpteen times. 

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on April 22, 2023, 11:56:03 AM
Absolute bottlers.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: From the Bunker on April 22, 2023, 12:17:48 PM
Quote from: trailer on April 22, 2023, 11:56:03 AM
Absolute bottlers.

The only bottlers that were on show this week, were them crowd out on Thursday night!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on April 22, 2023, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: trailer on April 22, 2023, 11:56:03 AM
Absolute bottlers.

There's a man in a bad way, his beloved United a laughing stock.

And Tyrone sent down the road with their bums red raw by Monaghan.

A bad summer ahead for poor old trailer
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on April 22, 2023, 02:59:21 PM
There was one thing about this thread that made it sane, and that was there was none of that Brit banter shite.

Don't rise to the crap.

So, Wednesday - bring back Senderos and stick him on Haaland?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on April 22, 2023, 03:30:27 PM
Quote from: BrotherMore6592 on April 22, 2023, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: trailer on April 22, 2023, 11:56:03 AM
Absolute bottlers.

There's a man in a bad way, his beloved United a laughing stock.

And Tyrone sent down the road with their bums red raw by Monaghan.

A bad summer ahead for poor old trailer

Rent free!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on April 22, 2023, 03:35:17 PM
The bottlers comment is nonsense. Nobody tipped them for a title challenge and most said finish outside top 4. Injuries in  recent weeks have killed them and shown squad not at title standard.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on April 26, 2023, 09:08:11 PM
Filled the togs
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on April 26, 2023, 10:26:01 PM
Men against boys out there. Some learning curve, hopefully.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on May 03, 2023, 09:51:32 PM
That West Ham team.... lol. Basically forfeited the game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: From the Bunker on May 03, 2023, 10:11:32 PM
Quote from: trailer on May 03, 2023, 09:51:32 PM
That West Ham team.... lol. Basically forfeited the game.

They were saving themselves for Man U on the weekend!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on May 07, 2023, 08:31:09 PM
That was ballsy enough today. Could have ended up 5-5.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on May 07, 2023, 08:48:45 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 03, 2023, 10:11:32 PM
Quote from: trailer on May 03, 2023, 09:51:32 PM
That West Ham team.... lol. Basically forfeited the game.

They were saving themselves for Man U on the weekend!

Looks like they were indeed lol
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on May 14, 2023, 07:31:26 PM
Bottlers
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on May 14, 2023, 08:09:26 PM
Brighton were always going to have a big response after the Everton game

But the long and short of it is this squad have completely run out of steam. Yes city are arguably the worlds best team and exceptional but if you look across all the top leagues, Barcelona, Madrid, Napoli, Bayern, even dortmund, would all arguably have edged arsenal out over a league season

Jesus is not a top level striker, very easy to see why zinchenko and him were let go by pep. Surplus to requirements

Gabriel, whilst a very good defender, has moments of madness in him and can blow a fuse in big games.

Partey was let go by Atletico and let's be honest bar the odd good game once every 5 games when he's not injured he's been anonymous.

Saka and Martinelli both tired, we relied on their individual brilliance all season but they carried the team.

They don't deserve the league and Manchester City do. If they beat Madrid on Wednesday nights it's their treble
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on May 14, 2023, 11:18:28 PM
Dunno how they kept toe to toe with City for so long. Arteta deserves credit for that.

Squad depth is something that should improve with CL football. Some hard calls ahead.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on May 14, 2023, 11:30:52 PM
Starting with Xhaka - move him on. I'd take money for Partey too.

Ben white - let him go as well. Couldn't care less where zinchenko goes, I've thought for the last 10 games Tierney should be starting ahead of him. Better defender and can cross a ball.

Jesus is a good backup but still need a top striker.

It could be worse, you could have blown money on the likes of Nunez or Antony/Sancho. And then there's Chelsea..
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on May 15, 2023, 08:52:43 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 14, 2023, 11:18:28 PM
Dunno how they kept toe to toe with City for so long. Arteta deserves credit for that.

Squad depth is something that should improve with CL football. Some hard calls ahead.

Toe to Toe? What you on about? They were 8 points clear with 9 games to play! This is Devon Loch territory.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Look-Up! on May 15, 2023, 11:17:30 AM
Arsenal have had a very good season. They were looking very good for a while when it looked like 86-90 points might secure the PL title but since the half way stage of the season City have been relentless. 40 points from last 14 games, that is a serious pace. The 3 draws before the showdown with City were a killer, then the game itself nail in the coffin.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: joemamas on May 15, 2023, 03:35:47 PM
Quote from: BrotherMore6592 on May 14, 2023, 11:30:52 PM
Starting with Xhaka - move him on. I'd take money for Partey too.

Ben white - let him go as well. Couldn't care less where zinchenko goes, I've thought for the last 10 games Tierney should be starting ahead of him. Better defender and can cross a ball.

Jesus is a good backup but still need a top striker.

It could be worse, you could have blown money on the likes of Nunez or Antony/Sancho. And then there's Chelsea..

Agree 100% with your comments.
As the season went on, I also thought that Saka is way overhyped. Really hope I am wrong on that.
Either way he has to learn to move his ass and defend.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: 5times5times on May 15, 2023, 04:31:31 PM
Utd 3rd with possibly 2 cups. Us in 2nd with sweet f all.

We've bottled it. But of course Piers Morgan and his ilk will give Arteta such a wide berth.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Look-Up! on May 15, 2023, 05:14:43 PM
Arsenal are 6th in premier league wages, their wage bill is less than half that of City, Chelsea or Utd. They've had a brilliant season. A little disappointing by how they blew a few leads and only drew the games leading up to the City title decider, but squad size and key injuries caught up with them and they ran out of steam. Couple that with the fact City are a machine and went on a 14 game unbeaten run, W13 D1.

Arteta has shown great potential for a rookie in his 3rd full season as manager. They have CL football, they should invest heavily in the squad now to compete and win trophies. After this he will be judged against the big boys. Only someone trying to sabotage the clubs progress would light on him now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on May 15, 2023, 07:27:39 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on May 15, 2023, 04:31:31 PM
Utd 3rd with possibly 2 cups. Us in 2nd with sweet f all.

We've bottled it. But of course Piers Morgan and his ilk will give Arteta such a wide berth.

Morgan has bashed Arteta for the past 2 years what are you on about.. only when it looked like the league was possible did that scrote start getting on board with Arteta
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on May 15, 2023, 10:49:51 PM
Arsenal rank 20th for squad rotation in Premier league which explains why they've ran out of steam. Man City are fourth. Not sure is this that Arteta is poor at squad management or the fact the after 14 or so players the quality is not good enough.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: J70 on May 16, 2023, 01:23:17 PM
Arsenal have had a superb season. No one was expecting them to even challenge for the title, never mind sustain that challenge for so long with their squad. Arteta has done amazing work.

And once again, City, with all their endless resources, have had to put a ridiculous run of wins together to overtake them.

Bolster the squad and there's no reason why Arsenal shouldn't be up there for the coming seasons.

Heard on an Athletic podcast that they're the most likely destination for Declan Rice.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2023, 03:56:15 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 16, 2023, 01:23:17 PM
Arsenal have had a superb season. No one was expecting them to even challenge for the title, never mind sustain that challenge for so long with their squad. Arteta has done amazing work.

And once again, City, with all their endless resources, have had to put a ridiculous run of wins together to overtake them.

Bolster the squad and there's no reason why Arsenal shouldn't be up there for the coming seasons.

Heard on an Athletic podcast that they're the most likely destination for Declan Rice.

When the pressure came on Arsenal only getting 9 points from 21 greatly helped Manchester City to overtake them and Arsenal had no distraction of domestic cup competitions as out of both in the early rounds and the Europa league exit in early March was meant to be a blessing in disguise.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: seafoid on May 16, 2023, 06:53:46 PM
https://www.bbc.com/sport/65566868
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: J70 on May 16, 2023, 07:29:45 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2023, 03:56:15 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 16, 2023, 01:23:17 PM
Arsenal have had a superb season. No one was expecting them to even challenge for the title, never mind sustain that challenge for so long with their squad. Arteta has done amazing work.

And once again, City, with all their endless resources, have had to put a ridiculous run of wins together to overtake them.

Bolster the squad and there's no reason why Arsenal shouldn't be up there for the coming seasons.

Heard on an Athletic podcast that they're the most likely destination for Declan Rice.

When the pressure came on Arsenal only getting 9 points from 21 greatly helped Manchester City to overtake them and Arsenal had no distraction of domestic cup competitions as out of both in the early rounds and the Europa league exit in early March was meant to be a blessing in disguise.

Pressure exerted by City's relentlessness and vast experience and compounded by Arsenal's lack of experience and options.

Arsenal should be better for it next time if they can build on it. Not guaranteed of course.

They've still had a great season IMO. Without them it would be 20-21 all over again with City coasting to the finish line in neutral.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: seafoid on May 16, 2023, 08:09:03 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 16, 2023, 07:29:45 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2023, 03:56:15 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 16, 2023, 01:23:17 PM
Arsenal have had a superb season. No one was expecting them to even challenge for the title, never mind sustain that challenge for so long with their squad. Arteta has done amazing work.

And once again, City, with all their endless resources, have had to put a ridiculous run of wins together to overtake them.

Bolster the squad and there's no reason why Arsenal shouldn't be up there for the coming seasons.

Heard on an Athletic podcast that they're the most likely destination for Declan Rice.

When the pressure came on Arsenal only getting 9 points from 21 greatly helped Manchester City to overtake them and Arsenal had no distraction of domestic cup competitions as out of both in the early rounds and the Europa league exit in early March was meant to be a blessing in disguise.

Pressure exerted by City's relentlessness and vast experience and compounded by Arsenal's lack of experience and options.

Arsenal should be better for it next time if they can build on it. Not guaranteed of course.

They've still had a great season IMO. Without them it would be 20-21 all over again with City coasting to the finish line in neutral.
The chasing pack don't  have any standout teams... Newcastle ran out of steam too. Liverpool need an MOT for their midfield. will they get the money? Man Utd are a long way from the finished article.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Look-Up! on May 17, 2023, 10:13:01 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2023, 03:56:15 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 16, 2023, 01:23:17 PM
Arsenal have had a superb season. No one was expecting them to even challenge for the title, never mind sustain that challenge for so long with their squad. Arteta has done amazing work.

And once again, City, with all their endless resources, have had to put a ridiculous run of wins together to overtake them.

Bolster the squad and there's no reason why Arsenal shouldn't be up there for the coming seasons.

Heard on an Athletic podcast that they're the most likely destination for Declan Rice.

When the pressure came on Arsenal only getting 9 points from 21 greatly helped Manchester City to overtake them and Arsenal had no distraction of domestic cup competitions as out of both in the early rounds and the Europa league exit in early March was meant to be a blessing in disguise.
Did surely, but think their goose was cooked before the last defeat. If you count 7 games before that, it was 12 points rom 21, only defeat being the MC decider. The 6 points dropped from the 3 draws was the real killer, but even at that against a normal team it mightn't have been so terminal. This City team on run-ins are something else.

The Europa league exit was actually a terrible night for them as they lost Saliba and have been defensively poor since. That and inexperience derailed them. They coped ok for a couple of games but a major turning point was the game against Liverpool, when in control, Xhaka stupidly riled the Liverpool team and crowd and got them back into match.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on May 20, 2023, 08:50:51 PM
Pathetic
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on May 20, 2023, 09:50:00 PM
Looks like Tierney is away, or Arteta just doesn't fancy him at all. Hard to see Vieira sticking about if Arsenal are wanting to raise it a level next year.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: seafoid on May 21, 2023, 08:09:12 AM
It all depends on the owner, same as in every other club. Say he did invest enough. Arsenal might get one.
Man City do everything better . the Premiership is worse than the Dub 6 in a row.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on May 21, 2023, 09:13:53 AM
Hard to say we didn't bottle it after that result yesterday.. Arteta gone into meltdown past few weeks. Partey at RB yesterday looked totally lost.. Fabio Vieira looks like flop of the season but he still persists with him over Smith-Rowe.. Depending on signings in the summer I wouldn't be too optimistic about next year
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on May 21, 2023, 11:26:31 PM
Evan Ferguson worth a look at?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on May 22, 2023, 08:53:34 AM
He'd be a very "un-arsenal" target. Nothing wrong with that. Could do with a burly centre forward who throws himself about. Too many nice players still
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Look-Up! on July 03, 2023, 12:49:40 PM
Looks like the board are rewarding Arteta by backing him in the transfer market with significant signings which will see a major change to the wage structure and overall wage bill at the club. That carries its own risks but it's the path clubs needs to take if they want to get to the top and stay there.

Interesting to see if their trust in him will be rewarded in the coming years and he goes on to become a great manager or if he has already plateaued.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on July 03, 2023, 02:21:33 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 03, 2023, 12:49:40 PM
Looks like the board are rewarding Arteta by backing him in the transfer market with significant signings which will see a major change to the wage structure and overall wage bill at the club. That carries its own risks but it's the path clubs needs to take if they want to get to the top and stay there.

Interesting to see if their trust in him will be rewarded in the coming years and he goes on to become a great manager or if he has already plateaued.

Still spending less on wages that we were 3 years ago. A lot of deadweight on the books has been cleared out - Still Pepe and Cedric on a high wage to get rid off - also a few others that will generate income once they leave this summer.

Xhaka, Balogun, Partey, Tavares, Pepe, Patino if sold should generate over 100m in sales. Then Lavia likely going to Liverpool so theres a bid of £77m being prepared for Tchoumeni of Madrid if they can't meet Mbappes price tag and need to offload to get him in
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on August 08, 2023, 09:36:10 PM
Raya a strange signing?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on August 08, 2023, 11:20:28 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 08, 2023, 09:36:10 PM
Raya a strange signing?

Think Arteta still not fully convinced about Ramsdale. Turner away
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on August 10, 2023, 10:15:04 PM
I wouldn't be totally convinced by Ramsdale either but if he got injured it would have been very dodgy under Turner.

Good competition for all positions now. I'd love to see Tierney stay. 20-goal a year striker would be handy too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Puckoon on August 11, 2023, 04:30:28 PM
Predictions lads?

Fair to say we can expect the domestic double, and probably lose a CL Semi Final on penalties.

Should be a good season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on August 12, 2023, 12:01:31 PM
4th place. Quarters of CL.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on August 12, 2023, 01:50:20 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 12, 2023, 12:01:31 PM
4th place. Quarters of CL.

Predictions are League Winners, Quarter final of UCL.. Semis of the FA Cup and early exit of League Cup.

Would be happy with a title challenge, good UCL/cup run though
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Saffrongael on August 16, 2023, 03:16:21 PM
Timber has done his ACL
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: marty34 on August 16, 2023, 03:23:08 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on August 16, 2023, 03:16:21 PM
Timber has done his ACL

Bad start for him.

They'll probably have to keep Tierney now.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on August 22, 2023, 08:58:03 AM
Lucky enough last night - Rice looks to be worth every penny we spent on him. Havertz not so much, hopefully Arteta drops this experiment using Havertz in midfield, leaves Martinelli isolated on the left and he was most dangerous attacker last season
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on August 22, 2023, 09:54:21 AM
I thought Havertz was ok. He links up play well. Rice was immense. Two yellows for Tomi a joke.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Puckoon on August 22, 2023, 03:11:14 PM
Just don't see the impact of Havertz. Haven't watched him too closely, or maybe when I've watched him he just doesn't seem impactful. Almost got the sense in the last 2 games that he was in the way of things rather than contributing to things. Was a strange buy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on August 22, 2023, 11:01:56 PM
Trossard is far more direct and exciting when he comes on - being overlooked because Havertz almost cost 3x as much
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on August 25, 2023, 09:01:51 PM
Looks like Tierney's race is run. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: BrotherMore6592 on August 25, 2023, 11:31:44 PM
Unfortunate

Thought he was a great player when he first arrived, the injuries have set him back, and zinchenko coming in did him no favours.

FWIW at times during last season I actually thought Tierney played better than him when given the chance, he isn't faultless either.

Wish him well, very likeable player
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: seafoid on August 26, 2023, 02:12:33 AM
Arsenal remind me of Newcastle late 90s or Monaco a few years ago.
https://youtu.be/sBW8Vnp8BzU?si=mZhobk4P6aHnySv-
Soccer is a money racket and mediocrity is the default. It's the hope that kills you.

They also remind me of the Cork hurlers. 2005 is a long time ago.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on August 26, 2023, 03:51:05 AM
2004, no?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: seafoid on August 26, 2023, 03:54:25 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on August 26, 2023, 03:51:05 AM
2004, no?
Even longer!
It seems so recent though.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: seafoid on August 26, 2023, 07:24:02 AM
Guardian

Saka is now friends with Teddy, a little boy from the Isle of Wight who was just eight when he wrote a heartfelt note to Saka after the terrible racial abuse the Arsenal teenager had suffered after missing a penalty in the shootout in the final of the Euros against Italy in 2021. "I hope you are not sad any more," Teddy wrote to his hero. "If you was here with me I would buy you an ice cream from the ice cream van with my pocket money and then we would play football in the park and I would let you win."



Teddy put his pocket money into the envelope which he then posted to Arsenal. His family did not expect a reply but Saka wrote to Teddy. They swapped letters and video messages and Saka grins when I ask him about Teddy. He's come to two games and he's coming this weekend. So I'll see him again."


Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on August 26, 2023, 07:19:30 PM
Gunnersaurus won't be happy today.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on August 26, 2023, 08:12:13 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 26, 2023, 07:19:30 PM
Gunnersaurus won't be happy today.

Hopefully Gunnersaurus picks the team the next day.. Havertz shite again, Arteta moving the whole team around to try and fit him in.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: seafoid on August 26, 2023, 09:57:44 PM
It's early days. Richarlison hasn't scored for Spurs yet either.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on August 27, 2023, 05:35:29 PM
It'll be interesting to see how headstrong Arteta is now with Utd up next. A lot of noise wanting him to abandon his new system.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on August 27, 2023, 06:07:10 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 27, 2023, 05:35:29 PM
It'll be interesting to see how headstrong Arteta is now with Utd up next. A lot of noise wanting him to abandon his new system.

He came under similar pressure with Aubamayang and he held his ground.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on September 06, 2023, 11:09:23 PM
So, what do yiz make of the first four games?

I don't think they've been that great but 10 points from 12 are not to be sniffed at.

I understand Arteta trying something different because doing the same again (formation/tactics) won't get the better of Pep's side. I couldn't see any improvement in the new system and any ball over the top or on the break and Arsenal looked vulnerable.

Trossard and Smith Rowe must be pissed off a bit but you can't play them all, all of the time.

Vieira might have matured a bit but I wouldn't start him.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Puckoon on September 07, 2023, 04:08:14 AM
Prefer Gabriel in the back. Like Partey and White being on the field. Doesn't square up however with Saliba and Rice

Like Zinchencho on against the lesser teams - we're more creative when he has the ball

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on October 29, 2023, 09:42:50 PM
10 games in - 7 wins and 3 draws.

Not 100% sure he knows his starting 11 but that doesn't seem to be an issue.

What do you think of the keeper?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Puckoon on October 30, 2023, 03:47:31 PM
Not convinced by Reya at all, and haven't seen anything that justifies the change that was made.

Arsenal very tidy and more solid across the midfield than in recent years - but lacking a plan B up front.

If they could somehow make a proper striker out of Super Eddie it would be good going.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on October 30, 2023, 05:49:58 PM
Jury out on Raya but not going to write him off yet.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on October 30, 2023, 10:14:09 PM
Arsenal haven't hit the heights of last year yet in terms of performances.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on October 31, 2023, 11:17:27 AM
No but think that's part of plan. Last year wasted too much energy in games so style slightly changed to be more controlled. Defensively much better.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2023, 06:32:16 PM
Have a ticket for the Brighton game on 17th Dec. What are the chances of another on the Ticket Exchange?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on November 03, 2023, 07:18:55 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 03, 2023, 06:32:16 PMHave a ticket for the Brighton game on 17th Dec. What are the chances of another on the Ticket Exchange?

Did you get your ticket in the ballot?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on November 03, 2023, 09:14:03 PM
Yeah, only the second time trying.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on November 04, 2023, 01:21:14 AM
Quote from: ONeill on November 03, 2023, 09:14:03 PMYeah, only the second time trying.

Fair play ! Red or Silver ?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2023, 08:01:42 AM
Silver. The only downside is that the young lad is a red and they're two completely separate ballots. I can't apply for a Silver and a red in one go, so we both have to be lucky for the same match. Hoping something appears on Ticket Exchange.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on November 04, 2023, 12:10:11 PM
Yes. The ballot is a bollox that way. To make things worse a silver can't try for a ticket when opened for reds
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2023, 12:32:46 PM
I contacted them about that and they said my only option would be to downgrade my membership to Red. Took me too long to get here to do that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on November 04, 2023, 04:20:37 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 04, 2023, 12:32:46 PMI contacted them about that and they said my only option would be to downgrade my membership to Red. Took me too long to get here to do that.

You need to get hold of a second silver for your son to use
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Blowitupref on November 04, 2023, 07:09:56 PM
What did you make of that Newcastle goal. After a long delay it was checked to see was the ball out of play, was it offside and was the Arsenal defender fouled.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2023, 07:49:40 PM
Bad camera angles.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2023, 07:57:41 PM
No one has mentioned, in terms of the offside, did the ball go backwards from Joelinton's touch, which makes it onside?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: J70 on November 04, 2023, 08:04:22 PM
How did Guimares stay on the field?

The goal - nothing clear even in the slow motion replays. No choice but to let it stand.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on November 04, 2023, 08:07:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 04, 2023, 12:32:46 PMI contacted them about that and they said my only option would be to downgrade my membership to Red. Took me too long to get here to do that.

I've a red membership if you want to enter the ballot with it boss? Just pm me can give you my deets.. You and your young fella could enter with it for rest of the season / next season if you'd like.

I'll not be getting over to any games this side of 2025, between football and paying for my wedding funds and time available 😅
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: jcpen on November 04, 2023, 08:09:18 PM
Thought Arsenal were poor enough and it was a deserved win for Newcastle United
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Main Street on November 04, 2023, 08:15:49 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 04, 2023, 07:57:41 PMNo one has mentioned, in terms of the offside, did the ball go backwards from Joelinton's touch, which makes it onside?
Most probably not mentioned because a ball going backwards makes no difference to the offside call.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mrdeeds on November 04, 2023, 08:52:07 PM
Quote from: J70 on November 04, 2023, 08:04:22 PMHow did Guimares stay on the field?

The goal - nothing clear even in the slow motion replays. No choice but to let it stand.

Nothing clear? The offside and push were clear and conclusive. Even the handball was.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2023, 09:05:06 PM
The push - https://twitter.com/xTREAMx22/status/1720904406340673711/video/1
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: J70 on November 04, 2023, 10:37:02 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on November 04, 2023, 08:52:07 PM
Quote from: J70 on November 04, 2023, 08:04:22 PMHow did Guimares stay on the field?

The goal - nothing clear even in the slow motion replays. No choice but to let it stand.

Nothing clear? The offside and push were clear and conclusive. Even the handball was.

We must be getting different footage in the states then so.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: J70 on November 04, 2023, 10:41:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 04, 2023, 09:05:06 PMThe push - https://twitter.com/xTREAMx22/status/1720904406340673711/video/1

That angle shows the push more clearly, but was it shown during the game?

Over the line is impossible to tell unless you're side on or overhead.

Don't know what your man is on about with the keeper-defender thing with the offside. The ball was ahead of the keeper too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on November 04, 2023, 10:46:38 PM
Worst Utd team in my living memory only 6 points shy of one of the best Arsenal teams in a decade or more. Make it make sense.....

Gunnersaurus won't be happy.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on November 04, 2023, 10:57:53 PM
Need to not get in the old-style November rut.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Main Street on November 05, 2023, 01:10:46 AM
Quote from: J70 on November 04, 2023, 10:41:26 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 04, 2023, 09:05:06 PMThe push - https://twitter.com/xTREAMx22/status/1720904406340673711/video/1

That angle shows the push more clearly, but was it shown during the game?

Over the line is impossible to tell unless you're side on or overhead.

Don't know what your man is on about with the keeper-defender thing with the offside. The ball was ahead of the keeper too.
Look, some Arsenal fans don't even understand the offside law yet deign to venture opinions on such matters ;D
and it's obvious that Arsenal player had totally missed the ball, had tried to turn his failure  into something different after receiving some pressure in the back from a Newcastle defender. Most neutral pundits opined there was no foul, just mainly a question about whether the ball was over the end line or not. In real time the ref thought it was a fair goal and VAR found no valid reason to question that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: gawa316 on November 05, 2023, 01:36:39 AM
Quote from: J70 on November 04, 2023, 08:04:22 PMHow did Guimares stay on the field?

Surely he will get a retrospective ban for that forearm to Jorginho?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: tyroneman on November 05, 2023, 10:10:21 AM
1. Whole of ball needs to be out. From angle on VAR, the bottom was out but inconclusive as to whether side of ball was overhanging the line.
2. If ball went backwards to Gordon = no offside. Also not sure from camera angles if Gabriel and Raya weren't juuuust playing Gordon onside at moment ball hit Joelinton
3. Those challenges in box....some given, some not, was pretty weak defending by Gabriel either way

HAVERTZ = RED
GUIMARAES = RED

Not as 100% sold on goal being disallowed as Arteta and Arsenal fans believe, both sides can prob feel hard done by....but fact Arsenal has so much ball and so few shots on target....who's fault is that.....
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: thewobbler on November 05, 2023, 11:26:33 AM
The PL need to start handing out lengthy - 3 and 4 match - touch line bans for managers who rant about refereeing and VAR decisions.

Managers don't want consistency. They just want every decision to go their way. Then this paranoia spreads throughout the team and the supporters. So shut them the f**k up.

——-

If as a team you're incapable of generating a clearcut chance over the course of a match, then don't hold referees accountable for your team losing a point.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2023, 11:48:21 AM
Flicked over before the goal controversy, but Havertz's tackle was a yellow and no more, had it happened over on other side away from the subs bench then there'd be no complaints.

Newcastle ended up with 3 yellow cards for losing it with the ref.

The managers or clubs should dock their game fee for giving off to ref, or drop them from next game.


Whether a player feels aggrieved on a decision the reaction will only make it worse..

 Guimares could have seen red, but didn't.

Nothing conclusive from the pictures I've see from available angles show ball completely over line..

Not sure in the off side, especially after utds game earlier lol.

Pushing and shoving in the box, both at it, play on if that was the case.

These things even themselves out over the year..

Fair play to ref for not taking any shite
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Armamike on November 05, 2023, 12:28:14 PM
The likes of Arteta and Kompany were a bit more philosophical about VAR when talking about the Tottenham Liverpool match a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on November 05, 2023, 12:54:05 PM
Havertz tackle only a red if you get the ball and you play for Man Utd like Casemiro.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 05, 2023, 01:01:14 PM
As MR says, these things even themselves out over the course of a season.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on November 05, 2023, 01:33:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 05, 2023, 01:01:14 PMAs MR says, these things even themselves out over the course of a season.

Tell Flopp and Replay F.C. that.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: blasmere on November 05, 2023, 06:03:27 PM
Who's the real flops?

Clubs with the highest net spend between 2014-2023:

Manchester United – $1.48 billion
Chelsea – $1.10 billion
Paris Saint-Germain – $1.08 billion
Arsenal – $932 million
Manchester City – $916 million
Newcastle – $718 million
Barcelona – $709 million
Tottenham Hotspur – $652 million
AC Milan – $583 million
West Ham – $564 million

https://worldsoccertalk.com/news/man-utd-has-highest-net-spend-of-any-club-during-last-decade-20230906-WST-454283.html (https://worldsoccertalk.com/news/man-utd-has-highest-net-spend-of-any-club-during-last-decade-20230906-WST-454283.html)

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: J70 on November 05, 2023, 06:19:16 PM
Quote from: trailer on November 05, 2023, 01:33:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on November 05, 2023, 01:01:14 PMAs MR says, these things even themselves out over the course of a season.

Tell Flopp and Replay F.C. that.

Ah pet... ;D
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: jcpen on November 05, 2023, 06:29:28 PM
Liverpool be happy with the point I'd say after a very poor performance.
They looked like a team that turned up expecting to win without a battle.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: jcpen on November 05, 2023, 06:31:06 PM
Wrong thread sorry.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: toby47 on November 06, 2023, 12:44:42 PM
Anyone else find Arteta seriously hard to like?

That Arsenal all or nothing documentary on Amazon was unwatchable because of him
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: joemamas on November 06, 2023, 05:48:13 PM
Quote from: toby47 on November 06, 2023, 12:44:42 PMAnyone else find Arteta seriously hard to like?

That Arsenal all or nothing documentary on Amazon was unwatchable because of him

I would say that on the surface, I like the way Klopp carries himself more than any other premier league manager.
I have been an Arsenal fan for probably longer than a few on this board have been alive, and usually go to one or two games a year.
Arteta is ok, I am sure he is under a lot of pressure to win a championship. He needs the balls to put Saka (and maybe Nketiah) on the bench for a while. If Saka wasn't English, there would not be a word about him, a 40 MM contract over four years FFS. This past Saturday was another glaring example of this.
Without Odegarrd, and if Martinnelli is not on, they are easy to contain.
They got very lucky V Many City a month ago, if they lost that one the would be out of it already.
Positives, they play attractive soccer, easy on the eye, I just hate lazy over payed players.
Saka should go watch Rooney back in the day bursting his arse running the length of the filed to defend.

Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Puckoon on November 06, 2023, 06:27:16 PM
Interesting take on Saka. Certainly gone off the boil a little bit and is double teamed every time he is on the ball. I think he needs a few games rest, playing him against Lens really annoyed me. I haven't considered his efforts lazy however. Against Newcastle again at the weekend they just took turns booting him around the park.

Odegard cutting a very frustrated player on the field with his high pressing efforts and looks around and is chasing shadows by himself.

I do think the lack of a plan B in an attacking sense is a major issue.

That said, it was a dumb lucky goal that could have easily been struck off against a team who had played with 11 men when it should have been 10. Certainly happy that the soft underbelly of teams gone by (for whom Arteta played) is definitely gone, and this team is happy to go toe to toe on a wet night up north.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Mourne Red on November 06, 2023, 07:45:26 PM
Saka comment about watching Rooney is unbelievably stupid.. He's been run into the ground by Arteta and Southgate, he's been taken off injured 3 out last 5 games because of an ongoing Achilles problem.

Needs rested/rehab and Nelson/Havertz need put Right Wing for a string of games and play well to get him that rest.

As for Arteta, I like him but find him very stubborn - Refuses to admit Reya, Havertz aren't working and that Zinchenko is a liability. Tierney, Emile Smith Rowe and Ramsdale are better than those players he brought into replace them
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on November 06, 2023, 08:14:54 PM
I think Tierney and ESR are too injury-prone at this level and need to be shifted on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: marty34 on November 06, 2023, 08:19:39 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on November 06, 2023, 07:45:26 PMSaka comment about watching Rooney is unbelievably stupid.. He's been run into the ground by Arteta and Southgate, he's been taken off injured 3 out last 5 games because of an ongoing Achilles problem.

Needs rested/rehab and Nelson/Havertz need put Right Wing for a string of games and play well to get him that rest.

As for Arteta, I like him but find him very stubborn - Refuses to admit Reya, Havertz aren't working and that Zinchenko is a liability. Tierney, Emile Smith Rowe and Ramsdale are better than those players he brought into replace them

I'm surprised that Tierney was shipped out on loan.  Had a few unfortunate injuries but thought he had a future at the Gunners. 
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on November 25, 2023, 09:03:11 PM
That was hard-earned today. Kept at it and stepped it up last 10. Reminded me of Utd under Fergie in terms of just knocking on the door until it opens.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Puckoon on November 25, 2023, 11:38:37 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 25, 2023, 09:03:11 PMThat was hard-earned today. Kept at it and stepped it up last 10. Reminded me of Utd under Fergie in terms of just knocking on the door until it opens.

Big win. If Arsenal come away with anything less than 3 pts when you have a chance to top the lead, it would have been a body blow I think. Was seasonally important to get all 3
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on December 09, 2023, 11:32:14 PM
Interesting to see how they react next weekend. You'd imagine they'll rest a pile midweek in the CL.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: screenexile on December 31, 2023, 07:02:56 PM
Not sure what it is but for some reason each Arsenal defeat fills me with glee.

Whatever happens this season they'll keep it interesting!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Sportacus on December 31, 2023, 07:11:42 PM
They are proven chokers and
Rice is the biggest pile of overhyped nonsense since last year when it was Jesus and Zinchenko that were going to make all the difference.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on December 31, 2023, 07:18:07 PM
The break couldn't come at the right time for Arsenal. Think it's 3 weeks now before another league game. The team looked out on their legs for 3 games now. Badly need players back and maybe delve into the market if they can afford it. Odegaard trying his best but not getting a pile of help.

You'd imagine City will take it from here as they've had their blip as well as Arsenal, but with a quality group to return. However, if Arsenal can regroup, rest, get Timber, Partey, Smith Rowe and Tomiyasu back to full fitness, they should make it interesting. Can't see Villa lasting the pace. Need to hang onto City to find out if they've the hunger late on.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Hound on January 01, 2024, 09:55:34 AM
I think Rice has been excellent. Scoring 2 late winners from defensive midfield and usually the driving force behind the team. The last couple of games he has been less effective, but personally I put that down to the full backs being poor and he has been doing a huge amount of work covering.

Saliba's probably the best centre half in the league.

Lack of a good 9 is getting most of the attention, but I think it's more down to Saka and Martinelli not reaching their levels of last season.  Both were consistently top class last year and it's a bit of second season syndrome for them. Both perhaps playing a bit too much football. They need more goals/assists from both, and it may well come. No doubting that Saka in particular is top class.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on January 01, 2024, 12:25:26 PM
Agree with every word. I was over at the Brighton game 2 weeks ago and Rice's performance was the standout. Didn't realise how dominating he can be. But it looks like he's become so central so early that if he's not at his best, the side aren't.

Martinelli and Saka aren't having the same impact because they've been worked out, so it's up to Arteta to do something to free them up a bit. When either has the ball, the opposition have 2-3 players covering.

Interesting to see if Arteta has something in mind. Hope so.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on January 20, 2024, 11:09:43 PM
Needed that today. Best side to meet at the minute.

Though Smith Rowe looked lively.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: statto on January 21, 2024, 02:03:14 AM
Quote from: ONeill on January 20, 2024, 11:09:43 PMNeeded that today. Best side to meet at the minute.

Though Smith Rowe looked lively.
Easy pickings today palace in bad shape.Over reliance on set plays a worry, 5-0 win no goal involvement again from Saka,Havertz(couldn't trap a bag of cement) and Odegaard who's great player but suffering from lack of movement up front.Jesus more likely to get a few touches in own box.Martinelli goals a boost but the game was over be interesting see how does against forest who will sit back.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on February 04, 2024, 07:09:37 PM
Good performance.

That's City and Liverpool beaten at home. Just need to tighten up in games you're expected to win.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on February 11, 2024, 10:06:43 PM
Another fine performance.

Arsenal will need to go to City and win.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2024, 10:23:41 PM
Quote from: ONeill on February 11, 2024, 10:06:43 PMAnother fine performance.

Arsenal will need to go to City and win.

Liverpool would love that result also
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: trailer on February 16, 2024, 02:33:54 PM
Arteta with the bants this am. In the conversation to sign Mbappe. Man should be doing stand-up not managing Arsenal. What a joker, lolz!
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on February 17, 2024, 08:35:01 PM
Another fine performance.

Arsenal will need to go to City and win.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: gawa316 on February 18, 2024, 02:36:10 AM
Been impressed with Arsenal recently.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on February 24, 2024, 10:05:03 PM
Another fine performance.

Arsenal will need to go to City and win.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Capt Pat on February 24, 2024, 11:21:03 PM
Normal service resumed for Arsenal. Are Arsenal going to give up on the European cup and concentrate on the premier league?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on February 25, 2024, 12:18:07 AM
I don't think there's any special side you'd fear in the CL. Bar City.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: RedHand88 on February 25, 2024, 12:20:42 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 25, 2024, 12:18:07 AMI don't think there's any special side you'd fear in the CL. Bar City.

Not even Porto?
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 25, 2024, 01:25:29 AM
Quote from: ONeill on February 25, 2024, 12:18:07 AMI don't think there's any special side you'd fear in the CL. Bar City.
Real Madrid would be thinking the same.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: gawa316 on February 25, 2024, 02:10:56 AM
Hoping for a Man City Arsenal quarter final
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on March 09, 2024, 10:11:20 PM
Different sort of win today but one that will stand to them. Brentford did what they needed to do and Porto will too.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: ONeill on March 13, 2024, 07:04:43 PM
That was a tough one last night. Admire how Porto played and how the ref did. Made for an old fashioned game.

On another note, been dead lucky with the ballots. Have entered 5 times and won 3. This time, managed to win 2 tickets together. Heading to Luton game.
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: Jim Bob on March 13, 2024, 07:21:08 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 13, 2024, 07:04:43 PMThat was a tough one last night. Admire how Porto played and how the ref did. Made for an old fashioned game.

On another note, been dead lucky with the ballots. Have entered 5 times and won 3. This time, managed to win 2 tickets together. Heading to Luton game.

You are lucky. Finally made it to silver last year and they turn round and introduce the ballot system
Title: Re: Official Gooners Thread - A New Hope
Post by: mortified on March 15, 2024, 06:16:47 PM
Quote from: ONeill on March 13, 2024, 07:04:43 PMThat was a tough one last night. Admire how Porto played and how the ref did. Made for an old fashioned game.

On another note, been dead lucky with the ballots. Have entered 5 times and won 3. This time, managed to win 2 tickets together. Heading to Luton game.

Ive entered 8 times and lucky once. Go to the Porto game. Great night. Atmosphere was best Ive seen there