It's back this weekend Barcelona & Real Madrid clear favourites again but should be some battle for Spains number 1
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/la-liga/2010-2011/results/2010_08.html
Current paddypower odds
La Liga title
Barcelona 8/11
Real Madrid 6/5
Seville 25/1
Atletico Madrid 33/1
Valencia 50/1
Top Goalscorer
D Villa 4/1
Messi 5/1
C Ronaldo 11/2
Higuain 7/1
Forlan 12/1
Ibrahimovic 14/1
Fabiano 14/1
Can't wait! We'll see what Madrid are made of with an away fixture to Mallorca on Sunday, looking forward to seeing Villa, Messi, Xavi and Iniesta playing together.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic back to Italy it seems
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8944842.stm
I'll believe it when I see it. These "talks" have been going on for a while and I doubt if Milan could afford him, plus it's highly unlikely he would go out on loan.
Quote from: paco on August 26, 2010, 04:48:08 PM
I'll believe it when I see it. These "talks" have been going on for a while and I doubt if Milan could afford him, plus it's highly unlikely he would go out on loan.
Italian transfers (especially those of the big clubs) are always a bit murky. I presume you heard about how Kevin-Prince Boateng arrived there?
Big clubs in Italy, particularly Milan and Inter, have a habit of buying and selling each other's players or former players. Don't be surprised if the deal happens.
I haven't heard of that particular deal Gallsman, although I'll look it up now. I'm hoping the deal does go through, as Bojan was excellent last season any time he got a chance and I'm confident it would be the same this season, doubtful that Ibrahimovic would be happy to be an impact sub. It would also mean more football for Pedro if he left.
Valencia looking good 3-1 up away to Malaga, Aduriz has impressed on his debut, scoring one and setting up another. Interesting to see if Mallorca can continue their brilliant home record from last season when they host Real Madrid tomorrow night, they might struggle having lost 2 of their best players.
Great start for Athletic Bilbao.
Gora Bilbao !!!
& the whole Euskadi!
& Aupa Athletic!!!!!!!
Ibrahimovic away to Milan on loan, bit surprised at that because his agent (who seems to be a ****) said he wouldn't go out on loan.
Quote from: paco on August 28, 2010, 09:21:02 PM
Ibrahimovic away to Milan on loan, bit surprised at that because his agent (who seems to be a ****) said he wouldn't go out on loan.
Well if they get Robinho before the deadline they will have a decent forward line of Ibrahimovic, Pato & Ronaldinho
Straight forward win for Barca tonight 3-0 in the end & villa got his debut goal, Real Madrid live now should be a good one
Disappointing 0-0 already playing catch up to barca
Quote from: ross4life on August 29, 2010, 09:52:38 PM
Disappointing 0-0 already playing catch up to barca
:) They were awful.
The last 20 minutes saw Real have Ronaldo, Benzema, Higuian, Ozil, and Khedria on the pitch at the same time. Very unMourinho like team and transfers this summer
QuoteThe last 20 minutes saw Real have Ronaldo, Benzema, Higuian, Ozil, and Khedria on the pitch at the same time.
Genius tactics Jose. All he was missing was Robert Huth..
They have some handy games coming up so he should be able to gel the team he wants without dropping any more points.
As they have to travel to Nou camp for the first clasico he cannot afford to fall too far behind
early on
http://www.livinlaliga.com/p/la-liga-fixtures-20092010.html
Barcelona definitely have the tougher fixtures to play before the Clasico. Away to Atletico, their bogey team, after next week's home fixture against Hercules. Also have a very difficult away fixture to Bilbao as well as hosting Villareal and Sevilla before hosting Real Madrid on 28th November.
Barcelona 0 Hercules 1 :o some really awful defending
Dreadful Adriano dive there after the slightest slap from Trezeguet.
Mascherano's debut lasted 45mins subbed off for Xavi
Barcelona 0 Hercules 2 :o great goal, some debut for Valdez
Barca getting absolutely carved apart at times here.
Nasty head injury there :-\
FT 0-2 will be one of the results of the season!
Rubin Kazan at the Nou Camp springs to mind. Good to get that blip out of the way!
In Barcas win tonight Messi suffered ankle ligament damage! 2-3 months out there saying..
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Quote from: ross4life on September 20, 2010, 01:34:20 AM
In Barcas win tonight Messi suffered ankle ligament damage! 2-3 months out there saying..
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BBC are saying two to three weeks out hope they are closer
The official website says 2-4 weeks, further tests will be carried out today. He's lucky, it was a terrible challenge and could have been much worse!
Quote from: paco on September 20, 2010, 10:53:25 AM
The official website says 2-4 weeks, further tests will be carried out today. He's lucky, it was a terrible challenge and could have been much worse!
Yep he's lucky indeed but don't you think it was a bit OTT with the crying as he went off? i didn't see Valencia weeping when his ankle bone was sticking out
Quote from: ross4life on September 20, 2010, 09:57:50 PM
Quote from: paco on September 20, 2010, 10:53:25 AM
The official website says 2-4 weeks, further tests will be carried out today. He's lucky, it was a terrible challenge and could have been much worse!
Yep he's lucky indeed but don't you think it was a bit OTT with the crying as he went off? i didn't see Valencia weeping when his ankle bone was sticking out
Yep, he should take a leaf out of Nanis book, ship a hard tackle, dust yourself down and get on with it.............
Quote from: Minder on September 20, 2010, 10:11:20 PM
Quote from: ross4life on September 20, 2010, 09:57:50 PM
Quote from: paco on September 20, 2010, 10:53:25 AM
The official website says 2-4 weeks, further tests will be carried out today. He's lucky, it was a terrible challenge and could have been much worse!
Yep he's lucky indeed but don't you think it was a bit OTT with the crying as he went off? i didn't see Valencia weeping when his ankle bone was sticking out
Well if Nani,Ronaldo or Torres
Yep, he should take a leaf out of Nanis book, ship a hard tackle, dust yourself down and get on with it.............
Well if was Nani,Ronaldo or Torres i wouldn't be surprised with the crying bit
Quote from: ross4life on September 20, 2010, 09:57:50 PM
Quote from: paco on September 20, 2010, 10:53:25 AM
The official website says 2-4 weeks, further tests will be carried out today. He's lucky, it was a terrible challenge and could have been much worse!
Yep he's lucky indeed but don't you think it was a bit OTT with the crying as he went off? i didn't see Valencia weeping when his ankle bone was sticking out
Not really. I know that the commentators go a bit OTT with this craic about his "boyish love of the game", "playing with a smile on his face" and how "all he wants to do is play football", but it's true. I'm sure you thought (as did I and most people watching) that it was a terrible injury when it happened, massive swelling and all, but thankfully it's not. It was a terrible tackle and all he wants is to continue playing.
Levante v Real Madrid ended in an boring 0-0, Barca up next hopefully better stuff :-\ whatever happens Valencia will be the league leaders this weekend after a good 2-0 away win vs Sporting Gijon
Valencia continuing to surprise! leading 0-1 at the Camp Nou at HT
Barcelona 2 Valencia 1 ft excellent response from barca in the 2nd half with some good goal's! the performance from Cesar kept the scoreline to 2-1
Madrid 6-1 up against Racing. Ronaldo has 4.
Quote from: Minder on October 23, 2010, 08:31:15 PM
Madrid 6-1 up against Racing. Ronaldo has 4.
Cue Ross coming on and saying he doesn't rate him (anymore).
Quote from: Boycey on October 23, 2010, 08:46:20 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 23, 2010, 08:31:15 PM
Madrid 6-1 up against Racing. Ronaldo has 4.
Cue Ross coming on and saying he doesn't rate him (anymore).
I may have been mischievous in putting that score up............
Barca won 2-0 away both goals from Messi, 10 goals this month now from Ronaldo
Madrid's first test coming next week, Hercules are gonna do some more giant killing!
Quote from: paco on October 23, 2010, 08:53:39 PM
Madrid's first test coming next week, Hercules are gonna do some more giant killing!
They caught Barca on the hop Jose's is sure to have is homework done on them?
Quote from: ross4life on October 23, 2010, 08:57:08 PM
Quote from: paco on October 23, 2010, 08:53:39 PM
Madrid's first test coming next week, Hercules are gonna do some more giant killing!
They caught Barca on the hop Jose's is sure to have is homework done on them?
I would think so, but I can always hope Madrid get caught on the hop as well. Either way, it'll be a tough week for them, Hercules and Atletico Madrid in the league and a fixture at the San Siro in the middle of it all.
HT Hercules 1 Real Madrid 0 another shock on the cards?
Quote from: ross4life on October 30, 2010, 08:00:45 PM
HT Hercules 1 Real Madrid 0 another shock on the cards?
1-1
keeper mistake i hear?
2-1 CR7
3-1 Ronny again, 12 goals for him in October
Passed their first test of the season! Mourinho will rightly take all the plaudits as his change in the 80th minute or so changed the game. Next game should be a good 'un.
how does that Barce side even lose when you read through it.
7 of the starting line up started for Spain in the WC Final. Then add messi. Holy f**k
1-0 Barca Mr Messi
Anyone see Villa's goal? Unreal, and the perfect way to reply to Mourinho's wee dig.
Quote from: paco on October 30, 2010, 09:55:15 PM
Anyone see Villa's goal? Unreal, and the perfect way to reply to Mourinho's wee dig.
Messi did the hard work beating two defenders though nice finish from Villa, what did Mourinho say?
Have to say some of the defending seen in La Liga is just as bad as the premier league
The press said something about Benzema and his goal drought, Mourinho (in his typical manner of taking pressure away from his players) made a reference to another very expensive player who wasn't scoring a lot of goals, ie. Villa. Some run from Messi there, would have my doubts about this keeper, though!
Quote from: ross4life on October 30, 2010, 10:24:16 PM
Have to say some of the defending seen in La Liga is just as bad as the premier league
Makes for great entertainment thought!
Na he would get a game for villa in all fairness. Wish he was playing today!
would you honestly drop Heskey for him :D
He would edge him out, just about
Quiet enough start to the season for Villa so last night was great to see. Hopefully he breaks out after that. Although apparently he's hit the post something ridiculous like 9 times in the last two months!
Quote from: gallsman on October 31, 2010, 10:24:06 AM
Quiet enough start to the season for Villa so last night was great to see. Hopefully he breaks out after that. Although apparently he's hit the post something ridiculous like 9 times in the last two months!
Sounds close enough, he's also been caught offside more times than anyone in the league, including Higuain! 2 great goals last night though, ominous for the rest of the league and he couldn't have timed it better with the Classico in a few weeks.
Quote from: paco on October 31, 2010, 11:11:23 AM
Quote from: gallsman on October 31, 2010, 10:24:06 AM
Quiet enough start to the season for Villa so last night was great to see. Hopefully he breaks out after that. Although apparently he's hit the post something ridiculous like 9 times in the last two months!
Sounds close enough, he's also been caught offside more times than anyone in the league, including Higuain! 2 great goals last night though, ominous for the rest of the league and he couldn't have timed it better with the Classico in a few weeks.
Bingo.
His movement is incredible - almost aways breaks off to the wing. Advantage of being able to cut in on either foot helps i guess!
I posted last night on the old thread but probably best to post it on the new one so here goes:
Anyone see Barca the other night??
They are on another planet and Messi is a genious--words cant do him, Xavi and Iniesta justice. Villa and Alves are superb also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJwKvFffQiU&feature=player_embedded
http://eurorivals.net/barcelona:villarreal-highlights-goals-video_20101113.html
As for Villa having a slow start he was good on saturday--look at his goal--flicked the ball over the sliding defender and then slid it through the keepers legs. That was one of the best performances i've ever seen from any team the other night --i've become bored with soccer, struggle to watch half a game but was glued to that game --Xavi and iniesta's passing is unreal--the weight and timing of the passes a joy --Villa is always on the left but dangerous out there. Their defence could cause them problems though as Villareal got in on goal a lot (although Pique wasnt playing). Busquets reminds me of Darren Fletcher.
Other than that it is a joy to watch them and i intend to watch all their games from now on. Truly amazing the barcelona fans are spoiled with such a team.
Quote from: Gold on November 16, 2010, 11:55:17 AM
I posted last night on the old thread but probably best to post it on the new one so here goes:
Anyone see Barca the other night??
They are on another planet and Messi is a genious--words cant do him, Xavi and Iniesta justice. Villa and Alves are superb also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJwKvFffQiU&feature=player_embedded
http://eurorivals.net/barcelona:villarreal-highlights-goals-video_20101113.html
As for Villa having a slow start he was good on saturday--look at his goal--flicked the ball over the sliding defender and then slid it through the keepers legs. That was one of the best performances i've ever seen from any team the other night --i've become bored with soccer, struggle to watch half a game but was glued to that game --Xavi and iniesta's passing is unreal--the weight and timing of the passes a joy --Villa is always on the left but dangerous out there. Their defence could cause them problems though as Villareal got in on goal a lot (although Pique wasnt playing). Busquets reminds me of Darren Fletcher.
Other than that it is a joy to watch them and i intend to watch all their games from now on. Truly amazing the barcelona fans are spoiled with such a team.
A massive insult to Busquets! He's a whinger and a diver, but when he sticks to playing he's fantastic.
I know its an insult but he just reminds me in that it takes him longer than everyone else to get his balance and the ball from under his feet than the rest of the team--ie he puts his hands/arms away out like an aeroplane when hes trying to get his balance with the ball, as does Fletcher--watch it.
But he does a good job and every team needs a stopper to let the others play--he's good but he's no Roy Keane or Essien
Quote from: Gold on November 16, 2010, 12:38:44 PM
I know its an insult but he just reminds me in that it takes him longer than everyone else to get his balance and the ball from under his feet than the rest of the team--ie he puts his hands/arms away out like an aeroplane when hes trying to get his balance with the ball, as does Fletcher--watch it.
But he does a good job and every team needs a stopper to let the others play--he's good but he's no Roy Keane or Essien
I wouldn't classify Essien as a "stopper"
Busquets is quality. Darren Fletcher wouldn't start for a World Cup winning side or even make the bench at Barcelona.
Masterclass from Barca tonight. 5-0 up away from home and not even half time yet.
The amount of goals Messi is scoring this season is scary. That's his 22nd in 17 games I think.
8-0!
8 leagues games in a row he has scored in now I think. Passed the 100 league goals as well.
Madrid up next and a win for them will set up El Classico well for next week.
You're right, 8 in a row, that's 101 in the league. Good to have so many impressive performances and no injuries coming into the Clasico! Hopefully Llorente can sicken Madrid here now, all the attention will be on him with rumours of a transfer to the Bernabeu.
not a bad response from Madrid (5-1) with Ronaldo also getting three.
All eyes on Monday nights El Clásico game! the last time Mourinho visited the Camp Nou Barca turned the sprinklers on him.
Current PP odds
Barca 11/10 draw 12/5 R Madrid 5/2
Correct score 1-1 6/1
First Goal scorer Messi 4/1
Really wish it wasn't being played on a Monday :( Anyway, can't see anything but a Barcelona win. Start of a tough period for Real Madrid, Valencia next week with Sevilla and Villareal all within a few weeks after. It'll be this stage of the season in the second half, round March/April, which will determine their success, these same fixtures will all be away from home (apart from the Clasico) and we'll be well into the knock-out stages of the CL.
Whatta stat:
Mourinho is on a run of 142 home league matches unbeaten:
Porto (W36 D2),
Chelsea (W46 D14),
Inter (W29 D9),
Real Madrid (W6 D0).
Quote from: ONeill on November 26, 2010, 09:48:26 PM
Whatta stat:
Mourinho is on a run of 142 home league matches unbeaten:
Porto (W36 D2),
Chelsea (W46 D14),
Inter (W29 D9),
Real Madrid (W6 D0).
Jesus thats some record Mourinho has :o
Good thing this one's an away game!
Hopefully will be a great game tonight. Read this stat in the paper today -
Since 2009 Messi has played 71 games for Barcelona, and scored 70 goals. Ronaldo has played 54 games and scored 51 goals for Madrid.
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on November 29, 2010, 02:01:43 PM
Hopefully will be a great game tonight. Read this stat in the paper today -
Since 2009 Messi has played 71 games for Barcelona, and scored 70 goals. Ronaldo has played 54 games and scored 51 goals for Madrid.
Jaysus thats some record, any odds on first goalscorers tonite?
Messi has yet to score V a Mourinho led team in 8 attempts. Hopefully that will be put right tonight
Odds on 1st goal.
Messi 4/1
Villa 11/2
Ronaldo 11/2
Pedro 13/2
Hisquin 13/2
Bojan 8/1
Benzema 8/1
Some tasty odds there Rossie.
Mourinho has a good record vs Barca & i would fancy a score draw tonight.
Though after the goals galore weekend in the premier league wouldn't it be typical this much awaited game finishes 0-0
From BBC
Lionel Messi:
- 22 goals in 17 games for Barcelona this season
- 54 goals in 48 games for Barcelona in 2010
- Has scored in nine consecutive games for Barca
- In last five seasons (this season last), has scored: 17, 16, 38, 47, 22
Cristiano Ronaldo:
- 16 goals in 18 games for Real Madrid this season
- 38 goals in 42 games for Real Madrid in 2010
- Has scored 14 goals in 12 La Liga games this term
- In last five seasons (first three with Man Utd), has scored: 23, 42, 26, 33, 18
Higuain is out. Definitely fancy Barca tonight, There's never any need for motivation when this fixture comes about, but the fact that is't Mourinho, given all his past behaviour and the shite he's been talking this past week or so they'll be more motivated than usual. Plus Ronaldo, Ozil and Di Maria aren't big game players.
Quote from: paco on November 29, 2010, 06:45:09 PM
Higuain is out. Definitely fancy Barca tonight, There's never any need for motivation when this fixture comes about, but the fact that is't Mourinho, given all his past behaviour and the shite he's been talking this past week or so they'll be more motivated than usual. Plus Ronaldo, Ozil and Di Maria aren't big game players.
You could regret that statement!
9/1 for Ronaldo to score 2 or more so hopefully Ronnie does have a big game! ;D
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on November 29, 2010, 06:48:47 PM
Quote from: paco on November 29, 2010, 06:45:09 PM
Higuain is out. Definitely fancy Barca tonight, There's never any need for motivation when this fixture comes about, but the fact that is't Mourinho, given all his past behaviour and the shite he's been talking this past week or so they'll be more motivated than usual. Plus Ronaldo, Ozil and Di Maria aren't big game players.
You could regret that statement!
I could, but I don't think I will! I haven't seen any confirmed teams yet, but what I've read on forums is that Mourinho's going for a front three of Benzema, Ronaldo and Ozil, midfield 3 of Alonso, Khedira and Lassana Diarra and the same back 4 he's used all season. They've looked great up until now, but Barcelona seem to be peaking at the right time.
If Barca are peaking then they will be burnt out come April/May when it matters! Ozil,Di Maria haven't played many big games? Ronaldo did ok the two Champions league finals he played in.
El Clasico results in the last 10 seasons:
2009/2010
Real Madrid 0-2 Barcelona 10-04-2010
Barcelona 1-0 Real Madrid 29-11-2009
2008/2009
Real Madrid 2-6 Barcelona 02-05-2009
Barcelona 2-0 Real Madrid 13-12-2008
2007/2008
Real Madrid 4-1 Barcelona 07-05-2008
Barcelona 0-1 Real Madrid 23-12-2007
2006/2007
Barcelona 3-3 Real Madrid 10-03-2007
Real Madrid 2-0 Barcelona 22-10-2006
2005/2006
Barcelona 1-1 Real Madrid 01-04-2006
Real Madrid 0-3 Barcelona 19-11-2005
2004/2005
Real Madrid 4-2 Barcelona 10-04-2005
Barcelona 3-0 Real Madrid 20-11-2004
2003/2004
Real Madrid 1-2 Barcelona 25-04-2004
Barcelona 1-2 Real Madrid 06-12-2003
2002/2003
Real Madrid 1-1 Barcelona 19-04-2003
Barcelona 0-0 Real Madrid 23-11-2002
2001/2002
CL Real Madrid 1-1 Barcelona 01-05-2002
CL Barcelona 0-2 Real Madrid 23-04-2002
Barcelona 1-1 Real Madrid 16-03-2002
Real Madrid 2-0 Barcelona 04-11-2001
2000/2001
Real Madrid 2-2 Barcelona 03-03-2001
Barcelona 2-0 Real Madrid 21-10-2000
8 Barca wins, 7 draws, 7 Real wins.
Teams are in
Barcelona: Valdes, Alves, Pique, Puyol, Abidal, Xavi, Busquets, Iniesta, Pedro, Messi, Villa
Real Madrid: Casillas,Ramos, Pepe, Carvalho,Marcelo, Xabi, Khedira,DiMaria,Ozil,Ronaldo,Benzema
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x45/caledis/RMBar.jpg)
Any good website to watch it online (free)? Tis freezing and having just got in, could now not be annoyed going outside again.
Quote from: CiKe on November 29, 2010, 07:21:32 PM
Any good website to watch it online (free)? Tis freezing and having just got in, could now not be annoyed going outside again.
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=96084&part=sports (http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=96084&part=sports)
I usually watch them via sopcast or Veetle, down load any of them and watch away
this one is with Veetle and is the skysports coverage, vg quality http://www.veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4cf354a1a115f (http://www.veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4cf354a1a115f)
Thanks, very stop start, not sure if my browser is problem (firefox for MAC as doesnt seem to work with Safari)
What's wrong with Kaka these days?
Quote from: CiKe on November 29, 2010, 07:54:15 PM
Thanks, very stop start, not sure if my browser is problem (firefox for MAC as doesnt seem to work with Safari)
mines working fine, try the ones tha play with windows media player
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on November 29, 2010, 07:56:13 PM
What's wrong with Kaka these days?
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=811890&sec=europe&cc=5739
Great effort by Messi there.
Well deserved opener for Barca there - great finish by Xavi
Mourinho to plan B after 9mins
quick thinking there alright
Great goal - must have been about 20 passes
Unable to cope with Barcas pace & movement thus far.
Some opening 18 mins from barca!! Brilliant exibtion of attacking football!
Pepe, Carvalho lack of pace is exploited to the limit & Xabi Alonso getting killed in midfield
This is why it's called the beautiful game
Edited to say that's why it annoys me - Guardiola acting the bollix
Quote from: Declan on November 29, 2010, 08:30:47 PM
This is why it's called the beautiful game
Edited to say that's why it annoys me - Guardiola acting the bollix
did I see thta right, did he hold his face after being nugded in the chest?
Quotedid I see thta right, did he hold his face after being nugded in the chest?
Didn't think so. More the petulant throwing the ball away annoyed me
Now Messi is at it - Ah FFS. Is the disease contagious?
Its not going to finish 11 v 11
So much for the non-diving Messi? he did it vs inter & he's at it again tonight
"Irishmen", and I use the term loosely drooling over pile of greasy foreigners. Pathetic lads. Take a look in the mirror FFS.
QuoteSo much for the non-diving Messi? he did it vs inter & he's at it again tonight
On second look Carvalho smacked him alright
Never had messi down as a diver but after that I might have to rethink that one! Barca are killing Madrid with their pace on the wings. Impressive first 45 but an early goal from Real could make some second half!
carvalho should have walked
a couple of things still obvious in the world of football after watching that 1st half. Barcelona are still the best team to watch in the world and Ronaldo is still the most hatefulest **** on the planet.
Quote from: Trout on November 29, 2010, 08:57:56 PM
"Irishmen", and I use the term loosely drooling over pile of greasy foreigners. Pathetic lads. Take a look in the mirror FFS.
Some cheek from a guy that started these threads ::)
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=17335.msg849395#msg849395
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=17324.msg848739#msg848739
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=17282.msg846250#msg846250
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=17270.msg845758#msg845758
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=17259.msg845124#msg845124
Unreal pass from Messi - Another great goal - Agus arís
Thats a better pass
Quote from: ross4life on November 29, 2010, 09:12:58 PM
Quote from: Trout on November 29, 2010, 08:57:56 PM
"Irishmen", and I use the term loosely drooling over pile of greasy foreigners. Pathetic lads. Take a look in the mirror FFS.
Some cheek from a guy that started these threads ::)
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=17335.msg849395#msg849395
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=17324.msg848739#msg848739
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=17282.msg846250#msg846250
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=17270.msg845758#msg845758
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=17259.msg845124#msg845124
:D :D very good
Id rather be an "Irishman", whatever he meant by that, than a big f**king girls blouse !!
Now their making a clown out of the special one. Why did he bring on that eejit diarra at half time!! Game over!
Footballing lesson for José Mourinho & will be some party in Barcelona tonight.
Real are getting some lesson here tonight.
Ronaldo should have been subbed early.
It's 4-0 and Jose is bringing on another defender. :o :o :o
What a team Barca are
Ronaldos another example of when you leave united the only way is down!!!
Now, thats a spanking
¡Villa Villa Villa! ¡que maravilla! 4-0!!!!!!
Great stuff from Barça
You could watch this all night. them 3 portugeesers, Mourinho, Carvalho and the Winker couldnt be beat by enough. Arrogant hoor's the 3 of them. wont be so smug tonight
Real Madrid - a team managed by Jose who can't seem to defend for some reason tonight.
That said, the passing by Barca is out of this world.
Ross4life will be devastated.
Quote from: Minder on November 29, 2010, 09:22:34 PM
Ross4life will be devastated.
Really? i'm enjoying this ;D
Messi is turning them inside out.
This is embarassing for Real.
Incredible stuff altogether.
Unreal first touch and control but work awful hard to get the ball back. Brilliant all round. Feel sorry for the winker. ;)
Quote from: new devil on November 29, 2010, 09:19:01 PM
What a team Barca are
Ronaldos another example of when you leave united the only way is down!!!
Indeed I'm sure Pique would be thinking the same!!
Joyous stuff from Barca - Messi is from another planet and with Xavi and Iniesta they are bringing the game to new levels
This is an absolute exhibition of football! Carvalho lucky again to stay on pitch!
Champions league winners here!!
I've never seen anything like this.
They're just playing with Real.
Quote from: supersarsfields on November 29, 2010, 09:28:22 PM
Quote from: new devil on November 29, 2010, 09:19:01 PM
What a team Barca are
Ronaldos another example of when you leave united the only way is down!!!
Indeed I'm sure Pique would be thinking the same!!
I didn't say all players ;)
Yea Barca are unreal
Barca just taking the piss now :D
Hope Villa gets his hat trick
Quote from: Square Ball on November 29, 2010, 09:32:04 PM
Barca just taking the piss now :D
They are indeed.
Incredible cheek. Real are just chasing shadows.
Red card coming soon.
4-4 500/1 anyone fancy a flutter?
Quote from: orangeman on November 29, 2010, 09:33:53 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on November 29, 2010, 09:32:04 PM
Barca just taking the piss now :D
They are indeed.
Incredible cheek. Real are just chasing shadows.
Red card coming soon.
without doubt. they are getting frustrated cause they are getting the hand taken out of them
Real Madrid managers have been sacked for less than this before! Jose back at Chelsea by Saturday? :D
Quote4-4 500/1 anyone fancy a flutter?
A lad texted Off the Ball to say he has €20 on a Barca 5 nil win at 125/1 :o :o :o -
4-0 is very flattering to Real Madrid. I don't even remember Valdes having to make a save.
The last time I seen Madrid get a hammering like this was at Anfield!
Quote from: The Worker on November 29, 2010, 09:41:38 PM
The last time I seen Madrid get a hammering like this was at Anfield!
I wonder how much money Madrid have spent on their team since then?
Quote from: Declan on November 29, 2010, 09:38:41 PM
Quote4-4 500/1 anyone fancy a flutter?
A lad texted Off the Ball to say he has €20 on a Barca 5 nil win at 125/1 :o :o :o -
I bet he's not too impressed with bojans two misses then! >:(
QuoteA lad texted Off the Ball to say he has €20 on a Barca 5 nil win at 125/1
He's happier now!!!!
Quote from: Declan on November 29, 2010, 09:38:41 PM
Quote4-4 500/1 anyone fancy a flutter?
A lad texted Off the Ball to say he has €20 on a Barca 5 nil win at 125/1 :o :o :o -
you can here him now, blow it up ref
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 29, 2010, 09:49:40 PM
Quote from: Declan on November 29, 2010, 09:38:41 PM
Quote4-4 500/1 anyone fancy a flutter?
A lad texted Off the Ball to say he has €20 on a Barca 5 nil win at 125/1 :o :o :o -
I bet he's not too impressed with bojans two misses then! >:(
Ok I bet he's happy enough now!!! ;D ;D ;D
Please show a post match interview with Mourinho, please....
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 29, 2010, 09:49:40 PM
Quote from: Declan on November 29, 2010, 09:38:41 PM
Quote4-4 500/1 anyone fancy a flutter?
A lad texted Off the Ball to say he has €20 on a Barca 5 nil win at 125/1 :o :o :o -
I bet he's not too impressed with bojans two misses then! >:(
Quote from: Declan on November 29, 2010, 09:50:34 PM
QuoteA lad texted Off the Ball to say he has €20 on a Barca 5 nil win at 125/1
He's happier now!!!!
I thought I was doing ok tonight making a few quid!! :o
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 29, 2010, 09:51:02 PM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 29, 2010, 09:49:40 PM
Quote from: Declan on November 29, 2010, 09:38:41 PM
Quote4-4 500/1 anyone fancy a flutter?
A lad texted Off the Ball to say he has €20 on a Barca 5 nil win at 125/1 :o :o :o -
I bet he's not too impressed with bojans two misses then! >:(
Ok I bet he's happy enough now!!! ;D ;D ;D
the gov will be trying to tap the fella
FT 5-0 could & should have been more! Paco our resident Barca fan will be a happy man tonight.
Well that Ramos tackle and push is the last straw - Utter humiliation
Humiliated.
Simple as that.
You just dont see football like this in England
those images of the spanish team dancing together on the streets of Madrid seem a long away off now. No love lost between Ramos and Puyol or Xavi !
Come back to Manchester cr. Back to a team at the top of the league. All is forgiven.
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 29, 2010, 09:51:43 PM
Please show a post match interview with Mourinho, please....
No chance I'd say!
Quote from: The Worker on November 29, 2010, 09:41:38 PM
The last time I seen Madrid get a hammering like this was at Anfield!
I bet they wished they had have been playing Liverpool tonight, would have won by 4!!
Holy Moly.
Quote from: sammymaguire on November 29, 2010, 09:54:24 PM
You just dont see football like this in England
No, but watch Stephen Watson try and big up the Linfield v Glentoran game on Boxing day. He will have you believe it will just be as good.
Quote from: EC Unique on November 29, 2010, 09:55:12 PM
Come back to Manchester cr. Back to a team at the top of the league. All is forgiven.
What would they buy him with?
Quote from: Minder on November 29, 2010, 09:59:28 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on November 29, 2010, 09:55:12 PM
Come back to Manchester cr. Back to a team at the top of the league. All is forgiven.
What would they buy him with?
ah I can dream can't I?
Barca fans singing your getting sacked in
the morning. Sweet win for them.
Utter humiliation for the translator
;D
http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/Real-Madrids-Jose-Mourinho-I-know-how-to-beat-Barcelona/12322/
That Barcelona display was the best that I have ever seen from any team -
anyone who thinks Mr. Rooney is anywhere near the best player in the world, or deserves the money he is getting, please watch a re-run of this match.
Barça-Real FT stats - Shots 15-5, on target 6-2, Passes 684-331, Pass completion 89%-74%, Possession 67%-33%, Fouls 12-16."
Real Madrid boss Jose Mourinho: "One team played very good, one team very bad. Deserved win, deserved loss. Humiliated? No. It's easy to deal with this loss, we just weren't good enough."
Quote from: BarryBreensBandage on November 29, 2010, 10:42:27 PM
That Barcelona display was the best that I have ever seen from any team -
anyone who thinks Mr. Rooney is anywhere near the best player in the world, or deserves the money he is getting, please watch a re-run of this match.
+1
The biggest defeat of his career in arguably the biggest match of his career surely has to go down as a humiliation.
Ramos is a right thug. Would love to be a fly on the wall at the next spanish international call up!
Ramos has to be one of the most over-rated defenders? can't believe Spain or Madrid can't find someone better? Bale would have scored a hat-trick on him tonight.
"arguably the biggest match of his career " Paco common now :D
Quote from: Trout on November 29, 2010, 08:57:56 PM
"Irishmen", and I use the term loosely drooling over pile of greasy foreigners. Pathetic lads. Take a look in the mirror FFS.
sure irishmen do it every weekend by travelling to British football grounds or watching it on a barstool
at least tonight it was the creme de la creme, the best football team there is on the globe
Quote from: Clown on November 29, 2010, 11:03:25 PM
Quote from: Trout on November 29, 2010, 08:57:56 PM
"Irishmen", and I use the term loosely drooling over pile of greasy foreigners. Pathetic lads. Take a look in the mirror FFS.
sure irishmen do it every weekend by travelling to British football grounds or watching it on a barstool
at least tonight it was the creme de la creme, the best football team there is on the globe
Yeah and I only eat spuds and watch Fair City. ::)
I would definitely argue that it was one of the biggest games in his career. When you take into consideration the fact that Barcelona's most hated person was coming to the Nou Camp as manager of their most hated team, Mourinho's comments in the days and weeks before, the whole Messi v Ronaldo thing, the meda's build up to the match, and the fact that the 2 clasicos have decided the league for the past 2 seasons, I would say it really is that important. I see Guardiola is his usual modest self this morning, reckons "it's not true that we are much better than Real Madrid."
Herself is a Barca lady and a devoted Catalan so I was dragged to the pub last night to watch it, without much protests from myself of course.
She was delighted with the outcome. I think they have never beaten "Franco's Blancos" by more than 5 ever, so no records broken last night. Madrid didn't look like they were ever going to trouble the Barcelona goal and they threw in the towel fairly quickly and acted into a bunch of petulant children towards the end.
Good pints of Guinness in the local too so a good night all round.
Quote from: ballinaman on November 29, 2010, 10:51:15 PM
Ramos is a right thug. Would love to be a fly on the wall at the next spanish international call up!
Carvalho isn't far behind him, but if you watch Barca you get used to the sight of Leo getting kicked about the place, no tantrums, no diving he just gets on with it, are you watching Ronaldo!! One thing pisses me of though is Sky commentators continuing to promote the premiership as something for La Liga players and coaches to aspire to. Get Real (no pun intended) the best league in soccer is La Liga at the moment. Rooney like Beckham is an over hyped slightly better than average English Club player.
QuoteRooney is an over hyped slightly better than average English Club player.
Am no fan of the b*llix but thats a bit off the mark. Surely he is more than slightly better than the likes of Robbie Savage for example!!!
Quote from: Rossie11 on November 30, 2010, 01:06:05 PM
QuoteRooney is an over hyped slightly better than average English Club player.
Am no fan of the b*llix but thats a bit off the mark. Surely he is more than slightly better than the likes of Robbie Savage for example!!!
Only if you think he is average!! :D
Quote from: paco on November 30, 2010, 08:49:35 AM
I would definitely argue that it was one of the biggest games in his career. When you take into consideration the fact that Barcelona's most hated person was coming to the Nou Camp as manager of their most hated team, Mourinho's comments in the days and weeks before, the whole Messi v Ronaldo thing, the meda's build up to the match, and the fact that the 2 clasicos have decided the league for the past 2 seasons, I would say it really is that important. I see Guardiola is his usual modest self this morning, reckons "it's not true that we are much better than Real Madrid."
I don't think Barca give a fcuk about Mourinho, and Ronaldo is no Messi...never wil be....Oh and yes I would be a fan.
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 30, 2010, 02:37:57 PM
Quote from: Rossie11 on November 30, 2010, 01:06:05 PM
QuoteRooney is an over hyped slightly better than average English Club player.
Am no fan of the b*llix but thats a bit off the mark. Surely he is more than slightly better than the likes of Robbie Savage for example!!!
Only if you think he is average!! :D
Plus he's Welsh.
Quote from: paco on November 30, 2010, 08:49:35 AM
I would definitely argue that it was one of the biggest games in his career. When you take into consideration the fact that Barcelona's most hated person was coming to the Nou Camp as manager of their most hated team, Mourinho's comments in the days and weeks before, the whole Messi v Ronaldo thing, the meda's build up to the match, and the fact that the 2 clasicos have decided the league for the past 2 seasons, I would say it really is that important. I see Guardiola is his usual modest self this morning, reckons "it's not true that we are much better than Real Madrid."
No doubt El Clásico is a huge game & that was some spanking maureen got last night! though to be honest Champions league semi finals & finals are bigger games than a 13th game into a season.
Barca players reminded Ronnie of the Score
(http://www.fifa.com/mm/photo/worldfootball/clubfootball/01/34/33/99/1343399_full-lnd.jpg)
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 30, 2010, 02:40:43 PM
Quote from: paco on November 30, 2010, 08:49:35 AM
I would definitely argue that it was one of the biggest games in his career. When you take into consideration the fact that Barcelona's most hated person was coming to the Nou Camp as manager of their most hated team, Mourinho's comments in the days and weeks before, the whole Messi v Ronaldo thing, the meda's build up to the match, and the fact that the 2 clasicos have decided the league for the past 2 seasons, I would say it really is that important. I see Guardiola is his usual modest self this morning, reckons "it's not true that we are much better than Real Madrid."
I don't think Barca give a fcuk about Mourinho, and Ronaldo is no Messi...never wil be....Oh and yes I would be a fan.
No hes not but for me neither of them are as good as one of the other players on show last night, that being Xavi who completely dominated the tempo of the game and was the key building block in Barca's success.
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on November 29, 2010, 09:59:10 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on November 29, 2010, 09:54:24 PM
You just dont see football like this in England
No, but watch Stephen Watson try and big up the Linfield v Glentoran game on Boxing day. He will have you believe it will just be as good.
I don't doubt that Watson will try to "big up" the meeting of the "Big Two" on Boxing Day - it's part of his job, after all.
But I somehow doubt that he will do so by asserting that it will be "just as good as" El Classico.
Though if it were me personally, I'd be saying it will be even better! After all, whilst Barca and Real might have some decent enough players, could any of them manage anything like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzAZTdyOXcA
;)
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 30, 2010, 12:15:39 PMOne thing pisses me of though is Sky commentators continuing to promote the premiership as something for La Liga players and coaches to aspire to. Get Real (no pun intended) the best league in soccer is La Liga at the moment.
There can be little doubt that Barca are better than enything in the EPL right now and it might plausibly be argued that Real are*, too.
However, if you look at the rest of the respective Leagues, 3rd downwards in Spain are a long way behind the top two;
http://www.skysports.com/football/league/0,19540,11826,00.html
Indeed the way things are going, La Liga could end up like eg the Scottish or Dutch Premier Leagues (albeit with several more 000's on the end)
Whereas England can argue that they have five teams who are strong and competitive in global terms, with the middle ranking teams being capable of beating any of those on occasion.
Perhaps the best guide will be found after the Champions League has ended? Barca have got to be strong favourites, but depending on the draw, I suspect the four English clubs could well outdo Valencia (esp) and Real.
* - Not quite so sure myself, mind.
Messi is the best player in the world, but Xavi will pick up all the player of the year awards, I think. He's been consistently excellent for 5 or 6 seasons and they usually give it to a WC winner in a WC year. Madrid are definitely better than anyone in England and the "La Liga is a glorified SPL" argument is one I've seen argued on numerous forums. Firstly, I think it's important to remember that the EPL is a 2 horse race as well, the last time any team outside Madrid or Barcelona won the league was the same year anyone but Chelsea or United won it in England. We can argue all day about the gap in quality in Spain, but I think we should be thankful we get to see record breaking players/teams and fantastic battles between the best club team of the past 30 years and Real Madrid, who always provide entertainment/controversy. I think I know who I'd rather have out of Gary Hooper and Leo Messi anyway!
Quote from: paco on November 30, 2010, 06:49:51 PM
Madrid are definitely better than anyone in England
Real Madrid could get Spurs in the Champions league & knock them out to continue their poor record in this competition for 7 years
& having watched them last night they haven't improved much from the hammering they got off Liverpool or the 6-2 defeat to Barcelona over a year ago.
I can't see that happening Ross. Spurs don't have anywhere near the quality of Barcelona and, as bad as they were last night, Ronaldo et al would destroy Spurs shaky defence. Although it would be the same at the other end with Bale v Ramos, but they would need more than him to beat them. Real Madrid recieved the sort of hammering they've been handing out all season, Mourinho is right when he says the league isn't over, but it'll be interesting to see how they recover with some tough fixtures over the next few weeks and some heavily battered egos.
Mourinho needed couple of season to find the right balance/defence at Inter & Spurs won't fear them having watched this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8558065.stm)
That was last year! Also, IIRC Higain missed an open net when it was still 0-0. As much as it might not have looked it last night, Carvalho has added solidity and discipline to Madrid's defence and has played against a lot of Tottenham's players before. If such a fixture materialised, any hope of a Spurs victory would be largely dependant on Gareth Bale's performance, as Ramos can be easily exploited defensively.
Was only 8 months remember when Rooney was scoring from open play, "Madrid crashed out of the Champions League at the first knockout round for the sixth year in succession"
I'm sure with all the millions spent & with Mourinho in charge they can improve on that stat this season.
Quote from: ross4life on November 30, 2010, 07:45:57 PM
Was only 8 months remember when Rooney was scoring from open play, "Madrid crashed out of the Champions League at the first knockout round for the sixth year in succession"
I'm sure with all the millions spent & with Mourinho in charge they can improve on that stat this season.
Here's hoping they don't :) Reading on Marca here that they're apparently weighing up the possibility of signing Hugo Almeida or Emmanuel Adabayor in January, nothing like signing another striker to keep the fans happy!
Quote from: ross4life on November 30, 2010, 07:45:57 PM
Was only 8 months remember when Rooney was scoring from open play, "Madrid crashed out of the Champions League at the first knockout round for the sixth year in succession"
I'm sure with all the millions spent & with Mourinho in charge they can improve on that stat this season.
Why are you talking about Rooney?
Quote from: Minder on November 30, 2010, 07:52:48 PM
Quote from: ross4life on November 30, 2010, 07:45:57 PM
Was only 8 months remember when Rooney was scoring from open play, "Madrid crashed out of the Champions League at the first knockout round for the sixth year in succession"
I'm sure with all the millions spent & with Mourinho in charge they can improve on that stat this season.
Why are you talking about Rooney?
That match was played in March the same time Wayne was scoring from open play
I wouldn't bet against Mourinho turning it round yet.This defeat will give him an argument for bringing in extra defenders in January.
Barca on song can live with anyone but as Inter showed last year, a team set up to hit them on the break can beat them.
Premiership has got weaker and it is hard to see any of them winning it.
Quote from: Orangemac on November 30, 2010, 11:51:13 PM
I wouldn't bet against Mourinho turning it round yet.This defeat will give him an argument for bringing in extra defenders in January.
Barca on song can live with anyone but as Inter showed last year, a team set up to hit them on the break can beat them.
Premiership has got weaker and it is hard to see any of them winning it.
Watch that match again, on another night Barca could have had 5 or 6 goals, Inter rode their luck a bit.
Quote from: David McKeown on November 30, 2010, 04:39:49 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 30, 2010, 02:40:43 PM
Quote from: paco on November 30, 2010, 08:49:35 AM
I would definitely argue that it was one of the biggest games in his career. When you take into consideration the fact that Barcelona's most hated person was coming to the Nou Camp as manager of their most hated team, Mourinho's comments in the days and weeks before, the whole Messi v Ronaldo thing, the meda's build up to the match, and the fact that the 2 clasicos have decided the league for the past 2 seasons, I would say it really is that important. I see Guardiola is his usual modest self this morning, reckons "it's not true that we are much better than Real Madrid."
I don't think Barca give a fcuk about Mourinho, and Ronaldo is no Messi...never wil be....Oh and yes I would be a fan.
No hes not but for me neither of them are as good as one of the other players on show last night, that being Xavi who completely dominated the tempo of the game and was the key building block in Barca's success.
Disagree - Messi is the best player on the planet at the minute by a distance,his goal scoring record in recent seasons is unreal
he can do everything, showed on monday night his great vision, and i love his attitude
a sublime player, the best since Maradona and he's still only 22 isn't he?
i would have Xavi and Iniesta at 2 and 3 on the worlds best list though, it must be easy playing in defence behind these fellas, they never lose the ball
Quote from: Clown on December 01, 2010, 12:07:15 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on November 30, 2010, 04:39:49 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 30, 2010, 02:40:43 PM
Quote from: paco on November 30, 2010, 08:49:35 AM
I would definitely argue that it was one of the biggest games in his career. When you take into consideration the fact that Barcelona's most hated person was coming to the Nou Camp as manager of their most hated team, Mourinho's comments in the days and weeks before, the whole Messi v Ronaldo thing, the meda's build up to the match, and the fact that the 2 clasicos have decided the league for the past 2 seasons, I would say it really is that important. I see Guardiola is his usual modest self this morning, reckons "it's not true that we are much better than Real Madrid."
I don't think Barca give a fcuk about Mourinho, and Ronaldo is no Messi...never wil be....Oh and yes I would be a fan.
No hes not but for me neither of them are as good as one of the other players on show last night, that being Xavi who completely dominated the tempo of the game and was the key building block in Barca's success.
Disagree - Messi is the best player on the planet at the minute by a distance,his goal scoring record in recent seasons is unreal
he can do everything, showed on monday night his great vision, and i love his attitude
a sublime player, the best since Maradona and he's still only 22 isn't he?
i would have Xavi and Iniesta at 2 and 3 on the worlds best list though, it must be easy playing in defence behind these fellas, they never lose the ball
Spot on his passing is unreal and how he evades 2 or 3 defenders and keeps control of the ball is a mystery. I watch Barca every week in La Liga and like Real on Monday he gets lumps kicked out of him by opposition players, yet he gets up says nothing and does it all over again No.1 by a country mile.
Completely disagree Xavi imo controls and dominates games in a way that Messi does not, dont get me wrong there is little to pick between them and they are well ahead of the rest. Just one interesting stat from Monday night Xavi attempted 117 passes and 114 got to their intended target and two didnt because the player had strayed offside. So in essence Xavi miss placed about 0.8% of his passes. Of the 27 players who were on the pitch that night only one has ever made more than 100 passes in a game and hes only ever done it once (Xabi Alonso) that was Xavi seventh career game with 100+ passes including two in the last world cup (the only player to ever done it twice in World Cup matches). That to me is what sets him apart from Messi, Xavi was the main reason for me that Spain won the world cup whereas Messi is better for Barca than he is for Argentina. A goal scorer will always get more plaudits than a player like Xavi but I dont think that means hes better. If I could add one to any team I support I would add Xavi
Two totally different types of players so it is a pointless argument.
Quote from: Minder on December 02, 2010, 11:25:41 AM
Two totally different types of players so it is a pointless argument.
Aye but you could say that about every player with the possible exception of comparing two goal keepers
Quote from: David McKeown on December 02, 2010, 11:26:56 AM
Quote from: Minder on December 02, 2010, 11:25:41 AM
Two totally different types of players so it is a pointless argument.
Aye but you could say that about every player with the possible exception of comparing two goal keepers
You could compare Xavi with another central midfielder for a start.
Anyone remember this genius headline from the Daily Mail in Jan 2009??
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1113507/The-best-players-world-Xavi--Ronaldo-crowned-king-football.html
Quote from: Rossie11 on December 02, 2010, 03:25:55 PM
Anyone remember this genius headline from the Daily Mail in Jan 2009??
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1113507/The-best-players-world-Xavi--Ronaldo-crowned-king-football.html
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/12/article-1113507-0308F37A000005DC-773_468x277.jpg)
Reckon they'd give One Direction a run for their money.
Quote from: Minder on December 02, 2010, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on December 02, 2010, 11:26:56 AM
Quote from: Minder on December 02, 2010, 11:25:41 AM
Two totally different types of players so it is a pointless argument.
Aye but you could say that about every player with the possible exception of comparing two goal keepers
You could compare Xavi with another central midfielder for a start.
But whats a central midfielder these days, is he a ball winner/destroyer like Marcus Senna or a creative spark like Paul Scholes and if you cant compare Xavi to Messi how can you compare to those other two midfielders?
Im not trying to get at you but I just don't buy this argument that two players cant be compared because they are different types of player of course they can be compared hence why we have the world player of the year award, which I think Messi will win but Xavi is more deserving of.
I think it depends on the team you are inserting the player into. If you're a team struggling to create chances and goals - a player like Xavi won't be as much of an impact to your team as Messi would. Messi can do it on his own - he can create his own chances and he can finish them off and torture defences. Xavi (and I am a big fan) isnt the kind of player who's impressive statistics can carry a team to a win week in and week out - unless he is playing along side very good footballers.
You could take Xavi and stick him in the stoke team and they'd do a bit better.
Take Messi on the other hand and stick him in there and he could well turn a mediocre team around singlehandedly.
Quote from: Puckoon on December 02, 2010, 08:29:33 PM
I think it depends on the team you are inserting the player into. If you're a team struggling to create chances and goals - a player like Xavi won't be as much of an impact to your team as Messi would. Messi can do it on his own - he can create his own chances and he can finish them off and torture defences. Xavi (and I am a big fan) isnt the kind of player who's impressive statistics can carry a team to a win week in and week out - unless he is playing along side very good footballers.
You could take Xavi and stick him in the stoke team and they'd do a bit better.
Take Messi on the other hand and stick him in there and he could well turn a mediocre team around singlehandedly.
I completely disagree and would actually say the opposite Xavi creates as much if not more out of nothing than Messi, the difference being Xavi creates chances for others and therefore doesn't get the same credit. There was a goal in the reverse fixture last season that Messi scored where he got a lot of praise even though all the brilliance on the goal was in Xavi's vision yet after Villas non offside goal on Monday Messi got all the credit for the pass. To go back to international football Messi is for me yet to perform to the same level for Argentina as he does for Barca and I think a big reason for that is the lack of Xavi
One final stat because I'm starting to make myself sound like his agent but according to Jw's blog before this season since 2004 in the champions league Barca's record reads as follows:
With Messi 45 games
23 wins 16 draws 6 loses
Win percentage 51.1%
Without Messi 22 games
16 Wins 3 draws 3 losses
Win percentage 72.7%
With Xavi 53 games
32 wins 17 draws 4 losses
Win percentage 60.3%
Without Xavi 14 games
7 wins 3 draws 4 losses
Win percentage 50%
Not gonna get involved in the debate about who's better, but I certainly agree about Xavi not getting enough recognition and for this reason I think he'll red up all the POTY awards. The pass you referred to is at 0:56 in this link, David. My favourite would probably be the one at 2:14.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9CR0nV_8Z4
Edit: This boy's not bad, either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4UipWBzuqY&feature=related
Agree Paco, would love to see the win/loss stats without Iniesta.
2006 Champs league final turned when himself and Larrson came on.
He missed games V Inter last year as well.
For me its a joy to watch them all 3 of them on the same pitch doing what
they did on Monday night.
Being selfish I hope Xavi retires from international football soon to prolong his
Barca career as watching Barca in full flight is lot more enjoyable than watching
Spain at the moment
Can't find anything on the net about it but heard a radio bulletin there saying the final three for the Ballon D'or are Sjnedier Iniesta and Xavi
QuoteMy favourite would probably be the one at 2:14.
Agreed - genius
Quote from: David McKeown on December 03, 2010, 01:33:16 AM
I completely disagree and would actually say the opposite Xavi creates as much if not more out of nothing than Messi, the difference being Xavi creates chances for others and therefore doesn't get the same credit.
Yes - provided there is sufficient quality on the other end to complement the work he does. That is my point. Xavi creates a lot of chances - and is a joy to watch - but if he was playing with a poor team much of what he would create might go down the shitter, whereas Messi would create it and and finish it himself.
Quote from: David McKeown on December 03, 2010, 02:52:22 PM
Can't find anything on the net about it but heard a radio bulletin there saying the final three for the Ballon D'or are Sjnedier Iniesta and Xavi
If true, that's a complete farce. Someone will probably disagree with me, but I don't think Sneijder had
that good a season. They won the CL with Milito's goals and the solidity/discipline of their defence, he got to a WC final and scored 5 goals, but IIRC at least 2 of them were own goals/deflections and Holland never really impressed during the tournament. He won't win it, surely they have to give it to Xavi, but the fact that Messi didn't make that shortlist after 47 goals in 49 games (never mind his stats this season!) is ridiculous.
Quote from: Puckoon on December 03, 2010, 03:10:08 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on December 03, 2010, 01:33:16 AM
I completely disagree and would actually say the opposite Xavi creates as much if not more out of nothing than Messi, the difference being Xavi creates chances for others and therefore doesn't get the same credit.
Yes - provided there is sufficient quality on the other end to complement the work he does. That is my point. Xavi creates a lot of chances - and is a joy to watch - but if he was playing with a poor team much of what he would create might go down the shitter, whereas Messi would create it and and finish it himself.
All opinions I suppose but without good players round him feeding him the ball I don't think Messi would have anywhere near the same impact he does at Barca. For me Xavi could be the lifeblood of a poor team more than Messi.
As for the Ballon D'or I would have had Messi in there but personally would rate those three as three of the best four players in the world this year
I mean when all is said and done David - I'd take either of them at the Emirates! :D
Messi is not in the top three here either
Sure he scored an ridiculous amount of goals but not winning the Champions league/not scoring at the world cup is gonna cost him the Ballon D'or (http://www.paddypower.com/bet/football-specials/ballon-dor-winner-2010/-2076048.html#link_9635482&force_racing_css=N&ev_desc=Outright%20Betting%5B/url)
1st time I've seen Xavi top on the betting websites, good to see. I would agree that Sneijder would be in the top 4 best players in the world, but IMO the top 3 (Messi, Xavi, Iniesta) are a lightyears ahead of the rest (Sneijder, Villa, Ronaldo, etc.), anyone who has watched them week in week out for the past few years would agree. That list can't be taken seriously anyway, Miroslav Klose made it after all!
Have stayed away from this thread for a while due to the inevitable invasion of "sure he wouldn't do that in England" brigade. One of my friends turned round to me last night when we were watching the highlights for the umpteenth time and said "I'm not sure Villa would have made it in England." Felt an almost irresistible urge to smack him.
There was a comment earlier about Spain having a dominant "Big 2" and that La Liga isn't as competitive as the Premiership. The reason for that is that in recent years Chelsea an United have both regressed considerably - both have clearly poorer squads than three seasons ago. Yet nobody realistically looks outside either of them for likely champions. The next tier of teams in Spain (Valencia, Sevilla etc.) would all comfortably compete with Spurs/Arsenal/Liverpool.
Ross, the chance of Tottenham beating Real Madrid over two legs is about as likely as anyone believing any of the crap you ever come out with on this forum. They're a stunning team with a brilliant manager - they just happened to get beaten by a better one. Everyone on here laughs at the thought of Bale attacking Ramos. Neither of the da Silva twins are hardly top quality players now, are they? Wes Brown had Bale in his pocket. I'd imagine Ronaldo running at Alan Hutton would be a lot more terrifying than Bale running at Ramos.
Quote from: Declan on December 03, 2010, 03:00:12 PM
QuoteMy favourite would probably be the one at 2:14.
Agreed - genius
Sid Lowe raved about that one last year. Get's better with each viewing. Iniesta's on Monday for Xavi's goal wasn't too dissimilar.
Gallsman if you chosen to read right you would have seen i was talking about Madrids poor record in the Champions league in recent years (just using Spurs as example)
If they don't buy some good defenders in the Jan transfer window they will be heading for a early exit again.
Quote from: ross4life on December 03, 2010, 05:16:02 PM
Gallsman if you chosen to read right you would have seen i was talking about Madrids poor record in the Champions league in recent years (just using Spurs as example)
If they don't buy some good defenders in the Jan transfer window they will be heading for a early exit again.
It's not about buying defenders - that's what's been their problem over the last seven seasons. The squad changes so often there's no consistency. Dani Alves can't defend for shit and Barcelona have won two league titles and a Champions League with him.
This year Mourinho appears to be actually have turned them into something of a team as opposed to a collection of galacticos. I fancy them to break the hoodoo this year and while they're capable of going the whole way, I don't think they will.
Thats the thing about Barcelona defenders how good are they really? barca have on average 70% possession of the ball in games as result the defenders don't get tested as much as others!
Quote from: ross4life on December 03, 2010, 05:38:11 PM
Thats the thing about Barcelona defenders how good are they really? barca have on average 70% possession of the ball in games as result the defenders don't get tested as much as others!
Depends who your talking about. At the minute Pique is probably the best defender on the planet. I've loved Puyol ever since he broke through but he's chronically slow these days.
Dani Alves makes up for his defensive shortcomings with incredible stamina and pace, I've never seen a man cover as much ground during a match. Annoying as his theatrics etc are, he puts in some shift every week.
Quote from: paco on December 03, 2010, 05:45:42 PM
Dani Alves makes up for his defensive shortcomings with incredible stamina and pace, I've never seen a man cover as much ground during a match. Annoying as his theatrics etc are, he puts in some shift every week.
Agreed, but doesn't mean he can't be attacked. If someone gets at him he's vulnerable.
Pique looks like the Rolls Royce defender while Puyol (was never blessed with pace) is a pure warrior though If Xavi,Iniesta got injured it would be interesting to see how good they really are?
Iniesta has been injured a lot in the last 12-18 months.
Quote from: ross4life on December 03, 2010, 05:54:39 PM
Pique looks like the Rolls Royce defender while Puyol (was never blessed with pace) is a pure warrior though If Xavi,Iniesta got injured it would be interesting to see how good they really are?
I actually agree with you for once, good descriptions. I think they'd handle themselves fine. Puyol is an absolute f**king legend. Some of the last ditch tackle he makes are unreal. Pique possibly has more footballing ability than any defender around - his goal against inter last year was fantastic.
Quote from: Minder on December 03, 2010, 05:58:18 PM
Iniesta has been injured a lot in the last 12-18 months.
Yes but I'm talking about both out injured at the same time & i don't think the great Mascherano would fill the gap?
I'll be the first to admit they're a different side without Xavi, they can cope without anyone else but he's always a huge miss. To say he's wrapped in cotton wool after matches would be an understatement! The search for a replacement is well underway, the case of Fabregas is well known, but having watched him a few times this season I'd love to see Thiago Alcantara get more game time and develop into the next midfleid maestro, he definitely has enough quality to establish himself this season.
Quote from: paco on December 03, 2010, 08:14:44 PM
I'll be the first to admit they're a different side without Xavi, they can cope without anyone else but he's always a huge miss. To say he's wrapped in cotton wool after matches would be an understatement! The search for a replacement is well underway, the case of Fabregas is well known, but having watched him a few times this season I'd love to see Thiago Alcantara get more game time and develop into the next midfleid maestro, he definitely has enough quality to establish himself this season.
Load of Spanish guys I work with are Barca fans and are massive fans of Alcantara. Have you seen his free kick routine with Canales?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkwmxuVicbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoSn-8tAqjo&feature=related
Remember watching that England game on Eurosport. Of all the youngsters coming through at Barcelona, the other one who's really impressed me is Nolito, who's only been promoted to the first team this season. He's a nippy wee striker and has scored a few in the Copa del Ray this season. Gallsman I think you may have mentioned Paco Alcacer before as well, he plays for Valencia but is another example of the conveyor belt of talent the Spanish have at the minute:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S64TCLG6Btk
And one of Nolito:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZqdVIziyWs
Does anyone know if the Barcelona game will be on Sky Sports tonight? It was supposed to be, then it got postponed until tomorrow and now it's back on again! Can't see it on the listings and was wondering if anyone knew if it's on red button or anthing?
Quote from: paco on December 04, 2010, 06:05:35 PM
Does anyone know if the Barcelona game will be on Sky Sports tonight? It was supposed to be, then it got postponed until tomorrow and now it's back on again! Can't see it on the listings and was wondering if anyone knew if it's on red button or anthing?
My UPC has the program scheduled to start at 18.55
Spanish football isn't due on Sky Sports until 2.30am :'(
Quote from: Minder on December 04, 2010, 07:16:48 PM
Spanish football isn't due on Sky Sports until 2.30am :'(
I got it on the red button on sky sports 1, "Osasuna v Barcelona will commence shortly." Anyone hear what happened? A real balls up by the RFEF, Barcelona were told at 3 the match was being played tomorrow, an hour later they were told to get on a bus to Pamplona! It'll be a real Sunday league job, getting changed on the bus and everything.
Sounds like barca had problem with the bus over? Osasuna didn't want to play on sunday & some barca players had to catch the train
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg80/scaled.php?tn=0&server=80&filename=9oc0.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
20:45 kick off time
There will be some kick up if they lose this match.
Apparently if Barca didn't turn up Osasuna would have been awarded a 3-0 win
Well all players made it official line up: Valdes - Alves Pique Puyol Abidal - Xavi Busquets Iniesta - Pedro Messi Villa
What a farce! They're an hour ahead Ross so it should be starting in 10 minutes, although anything could happen.
Quote from: paco on December 04, 2010, 07:33:50 PM
What a farce! They're an hour ahead Ross so it should be starting in 10 minutes, although anything could happen.
Thats correct my mistake
Pedro 0-1 after a beautiful ball by Messi.
FT 0-3 two for Messi
Real Madrid 0 - 0 Valencia HT
FT 2-0 Ronaldo double
Clean sheet v one of Spains best without Ramos,Carvalho maybe it's something Mourinho needs to look at in the future?
Quote from: ross4life on December 04, 2010, 10:33:32 PM
FT 2-0 Ronaldo double
Clean sheet v one of Spains best without Ramos,Carvalho maybe it's something Mourinho needs to look at in the future?
One of Spains best? 10 years ago maybe.
Quote from: Minder on December 04, 2010, 11:05:01 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 04, 2010, 10:33:32 PM
FT 2-0 Ronaldo double
Clean sheet v one of Spains best without Ramos,Carvalho maybe it's something Mourinho needs to look at in the future?
One of Spains best? 10 years ago maybe.
They are one of Spains Champions league teams so that alone makes them of top five teams in Spain?
Quote from: ross4life on December 04, 2010, 11:08:19 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 04, 2010, 11:05:01 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 04, 2010, 10:33:32 PM
FT 2-0 Ronaldo double
Clean sheet v one of Spains best without Ramos,Carvalho maybe it's something Mourinho needs to look at in the future?
One of Spains best? 10 years ago maybe.
They are one of Spains Champions league teams so that alone makes them of top five teams in Spain?
...who have been crippled by the loss of their two most influential players, as well as being virtually bankrupt.
Quote from: gallsman on December 04, 2010, 11:12:23 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 04, 2010, 11:08:19 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 04, 2010, 11:05:01 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 04, 2010, 10:33:32 PM
FT 2-0 Ronaldo double
Clean sheet v one of Spains best without Ramos,Carvalho maybe it's something Mourinho needs to look at in the future?
One of Spains best? 10 years ago maybe.
They are one of Spains Champions league teams so that alone makes them of top five teams in Spain?
...who have been crippled by the loss of their two most influential players, as well as being virtually bankrupt.
Sounds so much like Man United :o
Quote from: ross4life on December 04, 2010, 11:13:58 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 04, 2010, 11:12:23 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 04, 2010, 11:08:19 PM
Quote from: Minder on December 04, 2010, 11:05:01 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 04, 2010, 10:33:32 PM
FT 2-0 Ronaldo double
Clean sheet v one of Spains best without Ramos,Carvalho maybe it's something Mourinho needs to look at in the future?
One of Spains best? 10 years ago maybe.
They are one of Spains Champions league teams so that alone makes them of top five teams in Spain?
...who have been crippled by the loss of their two most influential players, as well as being virtually bankrupt.
Sounds so much like Man United :o
Ronaldo is a loss? Who else of "their best players" has gone?
Heinze?
United have been losing influential players for years its how they cope thats impressive! & i could also say Hargreaves who was a important member of the 2008 European cup winning team.
P.S Heinze was another Ramos (big name shit defender)
Quote from: ross4life on December 05, 2010, 04:37:15 PM
United have been losing influential players for years its how they cope thats impressive! & i could also say Hargreaves who was a important member of the 2008 European cup winning team.
P.S Heinze was another Ramos (big name shit defender)
Hargreaves wasn't the player to United Ronaldo was or Silva and Villa were to Valencia.
So go on, who else have United lost to the same extent as Valencia?
Quote from: gallsman on December 05, 2010, 04:43:36 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 05, 2010, 04:37:15 PM
United have been losing influential players for years its how they cope thats impressive! & i could also say Hargreaves who was a important member of the 2008 European cup winning team.
P.S Heinze was another Ramos (big name shit defender)
Hargreaves wasn't the player to United Ronaldo was or Silva and Villa were to Valencia.
So go on, who else have United lost to the same extent as Valencia?
Good lord enough of the trolling! you already know of all the influential players United have lost since 1994.
Anyways IMO David Silva was over-rated he was no Mendieta
Quote from: ross4life on December 05, 2010, 04:51:23 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 05, 2010, 04:43:36 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 05, 2010, 04:37:15 PM
United have been losing influential players for years its how they cope thats impressive! & i could also say Hargreaves who was a important member of the 2008 European cup winning team.
P.S Heinze was another Ramos (big name shit defender)
Hargreaves wasn't the player to United Ronaldo was or Silva and Villa were to Valencia.
So go on, who else have United lost to the same extent as Valencia?
Good lord enough of the trolling! you already know of all the influential players United have lost since 1994.
Anyways IMO David Silva was over-rated he was no Mendieta
f**k me, we're going back to 1994 now?
Jesus Christ, that's 16 years - more than an entire career for most people. Every team on the planet at all levels loses influential players in that kind of timeframe.
You attempted to compare Valencia's plight to a similar situation at United. I'm asking you to clarify this. That plight consisted of having no money and being forced to sell their best players to raise cash. Has this afflicted United? No.
Silva is class. He's never been and never will be the sort of player to grab a game by the scruff of the neck but was still hugely influential for Valencia. It's early days in his Man City career but he seems to be contributing a lot and they look a much better side when he's playing.
Silva best season was his last season with Valencia, 10 goals & 15 assits
Quote from: gallsman on December 05, 2010, 05:04:56 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 05, 2010, 04:51:23 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 05, 2010, 04:43:36 PM
Quote from: ross4life on December 05, 2010, 04:37:15 PM
United have been losing influential players for years its how they cope thats impressive! & i could also say Hargreaves who was a important member of the 2008 European cup winning team.
P.S Heinze was another Ramos (big name shit defender)
Hargreaves wasn't the player to United Ronaldo was or Silva and Villa were to Valencia.
So go on, who else have United lost to the same extent as Valencia?
Good lord enough of the trolling! you already know of all the influential players United have lost since 1994.
Anyways IMO David Silva was over-rated he was no Mendieta
f**k me, we're going back to 1994 now?
Jesus Christ, that's 16 years - more than an entire career for most people. Every team on the planet at all levels loses influential players in that kind of timeframe.
You attempted to compare Valencia's plight to a similar situation at United. I'm asking you to clarify this. That plight consisted of having no money and being forced to sell their best players to raise cash. Has this afflicted United? No.
Yes but where only talking about successful teams! Valencia were until they lost influential players (i'm talking about 1999-2004 pre- Silva)
Maybe if Valenica got the same TV money ETC as the "big Two" it would raise that well needed cash?
Anyways my original post Valenica top 5 team currently in Spain YES/NO??
Why top 5? Fifth doesn't get you into the Champions League. You edited your original post (like you do with every other post), most likely after checking the table and saw Valencia were fifth. Mental.
Quote from: paco on December 05, 2010, 05:07:24 PM
Silva is class. He's never been and never will be the sort of player to grab a game by the scruff of the neck but was still hugely influential for Valencia. It's early days in his Man City career but he seems to be contributing a lot and they look a much better side when he's playing.
+1
Took a while to get accustomed to the PL but is a quality player and improving all the time.
He also failed to pick up on the irony of classifying Heinze as a top player.
Quote from: Minder on December 05, 2010, 05:39:49 PM
Why top 5? Fifth doesn't get you into the Champions League. You edited your original post (like you do with every other post), most likely after checking the table and saw Valencia were fifth. Mental.
Figure of speech Minder top 5 instead of top 4! but as i already said they are one of the Champions league teams & more than likely will be again next season
What's mental is how you run off when a question is asked of you.
Edit*** can't believe i missed the bit in bold :D
Quote from: gallsman on December 05, 2010, 05:44:36 PM
He also failed to pick up on the irony of classifying Heinze as a top player.
Not me but Real Madrid.
And just for Minder who doesn't see past Barca/Real in Spain.. Villarreal v Sevilla tonight who could arguably make up the top five I'm talking about.
Quote from: Minder on December 05, 2010, 05:39:49 PM
Why top 5? Fifth doesn't get you into the Champions League. You edited your original post (like you do with every other post), most likely after checking the table and saw Valencia were fifth. Mental.
Yeah a Liverpool fan would know that :P
Quote from: ross4life on December 03, 2010, 05:38:11 PM
Thats the thing about Barcelona defenders how good are they really? barca have on average 70% possession of the ball in games as result the defenders don't get tested as much as others!
Eureka...never thought of that one, don't give them the ball that way they can't score...well I never what genius. Your implication that Barca can't defend doesn't stand up, they defend from Villa back they work hard at ball retention and naturally the result is usually that they win.
The same argument can be thrown at Italian defenders. Can they all defend as well as we are led to believe?
They sit back with 2 holding midfielders in front of them and play very compact which hides many of their faults.
Remember world cup winners Zambrotta and Canavarro went to Spain in 2007 and were nothing spectacular.
Zambrotta especially had a tough time of it trying to cover the space whilst Canavarro started both the 4-0 and 6-2 hammering's to Liverpool and Barcelona.
I fully believe picking the worlds best back 4 and putting them onto the Barca team we would be having the same pointless discussions about Barca not able to defend.
Currently Barcas back 4 fit their system perfectly. They are winning in style and wont be changing that anytime soon (thankfully)
Final three announced for Balon D'or, Messi, Xavi and Iniesta. I think it's the correct decision.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/06122010/2/xavi-iniesta-messi-three-man-ballon-d-shortlist.html
at the weekend i was told by a relative that bolton would finish in the top 4 of la liga if they played in spain.
i thought they would have to have a few decent runs in europe first before being considered better than valencia, villareal, atletico madrid, sevilla etc
there seems to be this annoying myth that la liga (barcelona and real madrid aside) is now really poor. but surely the other teams are pretty much the same as they've always been. isnt it just that the top 2 are so good now that they make the others look bad?
if the epl is so strong overall then why havent the mid ranking epl teams made more of an impact in the uefa/europa cup?
Quote from: clarshack on December 06, 2010, 01:41:20 PM
at the weekend i was told by a relative that bolton would finish in the top 4 of la liga if they played in spain.
i thought they would have to have a few decent runs in europe first before being considered better than valencia, villareal, atletico madrid, sevilla etc
there seems to be this annoying myth that la liga (barcelona and real madrid aside) is now really poor. but surely the other teams are pretty much the same as they've always been. isnt it just that the top 2 are so good now that they make the others look bad?
if the epl is so strong overall then why havent the mid ranking epl teams made more of an impact in the uefa/europa cup?
That's what I always said. I'm fairly confident that if Barcelona and Real Madrid played in the EPL there would be just as much of a gap between them and the rest as there is in La Liga.
Quote from: clarshack on December 06, 2010, 01:41:20 PM
at the weekend i was told by a relative that bolton would finish in the top 4 of la liga if they played in spain.
i thought they would have to have a few decent runs in europe first before being considered better than valencia, villareal, atletico madrid, sevilla etc
there seems to be this annoying myth that la liga (barcelona and real madrid aside) is now really poor. but surely the other teams are pretty much the same as they've always been. isnt it just that the top 2 are so good now that they make the others look bad?
if the epl is so strong overall then why havent the mid ranking epl teams made more of an impact in the uefa/europa cup?
Well, no mark teams like Middlesborough and Fulham have made finals in recent years. But generally, the Europa League is about as reliable as the Carling Cup as a barometer of quality. Many Premier League teams don't give a shite about it.
Quote from: Applesisapples on December 06, 2010, 11:45:26 AM
Quote from: ross4life on December 03, 2010, 05:38:11 PM
Thats the thing about Barcelona defenders how good are they really? barca have on average 70% possession of the ball in games as result the defenders don't get tested as much as others!
Eureka...never thought of that one, don't give them the ball that way they can't score...well I never what genius. Your implication that Barca can't defend doesn't stand up, they defend from Villa back they work hard at ball retention and naturally the result is usually that they win.
Where did i say they can't defend? & every successfull team works their asses off when they don't have the ball! the one difference is.... they have the two best possession midfielders in World football today.
Quote from: paco on December 06, 2010, 01:24:08 PM
Final three announced for Balon D'or, Messi, Xavi and Iniesta. I think it's the correct decision.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/06122010/2/xavi-iniesta-messi-three-man-ballon-d-shortlist.html
Rumour going around is Iniesta has won it? anyways Milan in 88 and 89 the last time the last time 3 players from the same club finished 1, 2 and 3rd
While i don't believe he's better than these three but the way this awards generally go i can't help feeling if the Netherlands won the World cup Wesley Sneijder would have won this award.
Apparently so, the rumours are coming from the same people who got the final 3 right so it may be reliable enough. I still hope Xavi wins it though, Iniesta has plenty of time left and it would be recognition for Xavi, something he's been wrongly denied up until recent years.
Yeah I'd heard Iniesta has won it too. I'd have him last of those three. Someone pointed out to me today Sneijder hasn't scored from play for Inter for 13 months so maybe it's not a surprise that he didn't make the final three
Quote from: David McKeown on December 06, 2010, 07:57:37 PM
Yeah I'd heard Iniesta has won it too. I'd have him last of those three. Someone pointed out to me today Sneijder hasn't scored from play for Inter for 13 months so maybe it's not a surprise that he didn't make the final three
I don't think anyone could have complained if any three of the four in contention made the shortlist, but I personally feel the three who made it are the most deserving.
I love all three and think Iniesta and Xavi are two of the best players on th planet, but on a year by year basis I just can't find fault with Messi. People will continuously say he had a poor World Cup. He did in my hole, he was fantastic - just because he didn't score didn't make him poor. Just like in the Clasico.
Quote from: gallsman on December 06, 2010, 09:00:51 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on December 06, 2010, 07:57:37 PM
Yeah I'd heard Iniesta has won it too. I'd have him last of those three. Someone pointed out to me today Sneijder hasn't scored from play for Inter for 13 months so maybe it's not a surprise that he didn't make the final three
I don't think anyone could have complained if any three of the four in contention made the shortlist, but I personally feel the three who made it are the most deserving.
I love all three and think Iniesta and Xavi are two of the best players on th planet, but on a year by year basis I just can't find fault with Messi. People will continuously say he had a poor World Cup. He did in my hole, he was fantastic - just because he didn't score didn't make him poor. Just like in the Clasico.
It's amazing the amount of people who can't understand this logic!
Quote from: gallsman on December 06, 2010, 09:00:51 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on December 06, 2010, 07:57:37 PM
Yeah I'd heard Iniesta has won it too. I'd have him last of those three. Someone pointed out to me today Sneijder hasn't scored from play for Inter for 13 months so maybe it's not a surprise that he didn't make the final three
I don't think anyone could have complained if any three of the four in contention made the shortlist, but I personally feel the three who made it are the most deserving.
I love all three and think Iniesta and Xavi are two of the best players on th planet, but on a year by year basis I just can't find fault with Messi. People will continuously say he had a poor World Cup. He did in my hole, he was fantastic - just because he didn't score didn't make him poor. Just like in the Clasico.
I dont think Messi had a poor world cup, I just think the other three had much much better world cups Xavi with two 100+ passes games and his control of every match he played, Iniesta with some strong performances and the winner in the final and Sneijder with this 5 goals and commanding performances for what for me was an otherwise average dutch side. Mind you I can't remember who won the golden ball in the tournament (if thats what the awards called) for player of the tournament?
Quote from: David McKeown on December 06, 2010, 10:48:08 PM
Quote from: gallsman on December 06, 2010, 09:00:51 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on December 06, 2010, 07:57:37 PM
Yeah I'd heard Iniesta has won it too. I'd have him last of those three. Someone pointed out to me today Sneijder hasn't scored from play for Inter for 13 months so maybe it's not a surprise that he didn't make the final three
I don't think anyone could have complained if any three of the four in contention made the shortlist, but I personally feel the three who made it are the most deserving.
I love all three and think Iniesta and Xavi are two of the best players on th planet, but on a year by year basis I just can't find fault with Messi. People will continuously say he had a poor World Cup. He did in my hole, he was fantastic - just because he didn't score didn't make him poor. Just like in the Clasico.
I dont think Messi had a poor world cup, I just think the other three had much much better world cups Xavi with two 100+ passes games and his control of every match he played, Iniesta with some strong performances and the winner in the final and Sneijder with this 5 goals and commanding performances for what for me was an otherwise average dutch side. Mind you I can't remember who won the golden ball in the tournament (if thats what the awards called) for player of the tournament?
Forlan. Possibly deservedly.
On Sky Sports last night Ray Wilkins said the only team capable of knocking Barcelona out of this seasons champions league is Chelsea! was asked how? with great difficulty...
2-0 win last night with a team of kids. They'll be incredibly hard to stop and are rightfully favourites but anything can happen over two legs.
at it again tonight. 3-0 up with 40 mins to go. messi has just got he ball on the right wing, played THREE one-two's with danny alves, and slotted it in - amazing
commentator said there are other talent shows on tonight, but this team is the best
His second goal wasn't too bad.
Quote from: paco on December 12, 2010, 09:50:36 PM
His second goal wasn't too bad.
amazing aswell, i guess most of the so called footie fans wont have saw his first goal, x factor was on
The best team I've ever seen.
They completed over 900 passes tonight, the most that has ever been recorded since Opta began.
Messi makes the game look so simple.
Just a stunning, stunning performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vRpH341kqk&feature=youtu.be
Aww so cute
http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/blog/dirty-tackle/post/Little-girl-cries-for-Xavi-gets-to-meet-him-on-?urn=sow-297057
Some miss from Messi,he is human afterall
Some finish by Xavi. Barcelona were 6/5 to win "to nil".
Some here must be getting withdraws (no X-factor) If you want to see real talent every sat night watch Barca.
Great game so far, some atmosphere in the stadium too.
Another masterclass from Barca! Before this Espanyol had won 7 out of 7 at home and only conceded 2.
51 goals in 16 league games. Wee buns to Squillaci and Kochielny.
Hard to believe Hercules held them scoreless in Camp Nou
Quote from: ross4life on December 18, 2010, 09:21:12 PM
Hard to believe Hercules held them scoreless in Camp Nou
Larry Reilly is the reason they needed a Camp Nou.
Quote from: ONeill on December 18, 2010, 09:11:08 PM
51 goals in 16 league games. Wee buns to Squillaci and Kochiely.
that sounds like the name of two buns. If Ji Sung Park, David N'gog + Odemwinge can score against them, then, holy f**k...........
I know teams form can fluctuate throughout the season but if Barcelona met Arsenal next week they would score four in each leg.
176-0.
Quote from: ONeill on December 18, 2010, 11:38:57 PM
176-0.
No disgrace in that. The pitch was a bit bumpy and Arsenal are still a young team.
Quote from: ONeill on December 18, 2010, 11:38:57 PM
176-0.
nah, Arsenal are a great footballing side, they will score
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on December 18, 2010, 11:47:36 PM
Quote from: ONeill on December 18, 2010, 11:38:57 PM
176-0.
nah, Arsenal are a great footballing side, they will score
like they never looked like managing against the poorest man u side in years
Tonights result Real Madrid 1 Sevilla 0 Di Maria with the goal (good finish poor goalkeeping) 2 points between the big two now as they enter the winter break.
real madrid 1-o after 7 minutes benzema looking sharp
2 up ozil with the 2nd
Barca couldn't beat Athletic last night - second leg will be tough.
Think it's just what they needed though gallsman, a dissapointing result just to make sure they don't get complacent over the break. Have to credit Bilbao though, they were excellent last night.
Half empty Camp Nou & plenty players rested would suggest Barca don't take the cup too serious
That doesn't mean they wouldn't have expected to beat an Athletic Bilbao team who were without their best player.
Xavi takes a swipe at Jose
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/barcelona-star-xavi-amazing-swipe-real-madrid-coach-mourinho-1334721
Did the ball go out of play between Madrids sixth and seventh goals there?
7-0. Wow, they must be far better than those flash-in-the-pan nobodies at Barcelona.
Couldn't do it in the Premiership though.
Quote from: gallsman on December 22, 2010, 10:48:22 PM
7-0. Wow, they must be far better than those flash-in-the-pan nobodies at Barcelona.
Couldn't do it in the Premiership though.
I'm guessing you were listening to Andy Gray on Monday night? Insightful as ever!
Quote from: gallsman on December 22, 2010, 10:48:22 PM
7-0. Wow, they must be far better than those flash-in-the-pan nobodies at Barcelona.
Couldn't do it in the Premiership though.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/21/the-fiver-christmas-awards-2010
"that was before Sky Sports analyst Andy Gray announced that Barcelona ain't all that and said "Let's see Lionel Messi do it at Stoke".
Much as I think Andy Gray's a twat, no, it was more directed at the myriad of posters who talk about how weak La Liga is in comparison to the Promised Land of the Premiership.
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Quote from: gallsman on December 22, 2010, 10:48:22 PM
7-0. Wow, they must be far better than those flash-in-the-pan nobodies at Barcelona.
Couldn't do it in the Premiership though.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/21/the-fiver-christmas-awards-2010
"that was before Sky Sports analyst Andy Gray announced that Barcelona ain't all that and said "Let's see Lionel Messi do it at Stoke".
"I twist my neck and I stare at my ass. My fat butt cheeks aren't a particularly edifying spectacle but ... over time it's taught me a lesson: my ass is earthquake-proof."
A classic from Mr Ancelotti there :D
Xavi made more successful passes today (156) than the whole of the Levante side (115).
Real Madrid 1-3 up, two for Ronaldo thats 27 goals in 27 matches this season or 46 goals in 46 games league games since he joined Madrid
Higuaín is out for the season so looks like more game time for Benzema.
2-3 & Madrid down to 10 men should make a interesting last 4mins + injury time
Another 3 for Ronnie tonight, 63 in 62 games.
Quote from: Boycey on January 09, 2011, 07:50:54 PM
Another 3 for Ronnie tonight, 63 in 62 games.
Regardless of how good the team he is on or the opposition (and Villarreal are a good team) he has been phenomenal since joining Madrid.
Quote from: Boycey on January 09, 2011, 07:50:54 PM
Another 3 for Ronnie tonight, 63 in 62 games.
No matter how much of a dick he can be, he's some footballer. Him and that young fella for Barcelona are so much better than anything else in the world.
Lucky offside goal pulled this win out of the bag
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2011, 07:53:12 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 09, 2011, 07:50:54 PM
Another 3 for Ronnie tonight, 63 in 62 games.
No matter how much of a dick he can be, he's some footballer. Him and that young fella for Barcelona are so much better than anything else in the world.
With the exception of those other two fellas at Barca
Mourinho shows his class again bouncing around in front of the Villareal bench when Madrid went in front, Cani done right throwing a bottle at the ****.
Quote from: David McKeown on January 09, 2011, 07:58:32 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2011, 07:53:12 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 09, 2011, 07:50:54 PM
Another 3 for Ronnie tonight, 63 in 62 games.
No matter how much of a dick he can be, he's some footballer. Him and that young fella for Barcelona are so much better than anything else in the world.
With the exception of those other two fellas at Barca
Suppose this is gonna cause another row but in my opinion he's in the same bracket as those Barca players. His biggest drawback is that he seems to be a thoroughly dislikable bollix..
Quote from: paco on January 09, 2011, 08:09:56 PM
Mourinho shows his class again bouncing around in front of the Villareal bench when Madrid went in front, Cani done right throwing a bottle at the ****.
Yup saw that maureen always wants the headlines about himself it seems
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Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2011, 07:53:12 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 09, 2011, 07:50:54 PM
Another 3 for Ronnie tonight, 63 in 62 games.
No matter how much of a dick he can be, he's some footballer. Him and that young fella for Barcelona are so much better than anything else in the world.
With the exception of those other two fellas at Barca
Fair point, but CR & LM have that bit more entertainment value. Xavi and Iniesta are quite good too.
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Quote from: Norf Tyrone on January 09, 2011, 07:53:12 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 09, 2011, 07:50:54 PM
Another 3 for Ronnie tonight, 63 in 62 games.
No matter how much of a dick he can be, he's some footballer. Him and that young fella for Barcelona are so much better than anything else in the world.
With the exception of those other two fellas at Barca
Fair point, but CR & LM have that bit more entertainment value. Xavi and Iniesta are quite good too.
I suppose it comes down to what you value more and I'm just of the opinion that Xavi is the best passer and controller of a match in the world and for me that as entertaining as anything Messi or Cronaldo can do.
I noticed last week Xavi had more passes and time in possession than the entire team he was playing against
Hard to argue with Ronaldo's stats, but I still think Messi is on a different planet. Ronaldo seems obsessed with being the best and doing everything on his own to prove it, normally at the expense of his team mates. His stats aren't bad though...
Quote from: paco on January 09, 2011, 08:20:45 PM
Hard to argue with Ronaldo's stats, but I still think Messi is on a different planet. Ronaldo seems obsessed with being the best and doing everything on his own to prove it, normally at the expense of his team mates. His stats aren't bad though...
You are the master of understatement ;D
Good to see Kaka back & scoring after his injury hell, one of the best on his day.
I love the way people talk about Barcelona as Messi, Xavi and Iniesta.
That Villa guy, he's no use. Pedro neither. Dani Alves is crap. Pique can't defend for shit.
Quote from: gallsman on January 09, 2011, 10:36:46 PM
I love the way people talk about Barcelona as Messi, Xavi and Iniesta.
That Villa guy, he's no use. Pedro neither. Dani Alves is crap. Pique can't defend for shit.
Who? name & shame
Quote from: gallsman on January 09, 2011, 10:36:46 PM
I love the way people talk about Barcelona as Messi, Xavi and Iniesta.
That Villa guy, he's no use. Pedro neither. Dani Alves is crap. Pique can't defend for shit.
I think Busquets has really come on this season as well, he's been brilliant for the past few weeks. Pedro has been great as well, 8 goals in his last 7 I think. Looking forward to hopefully seeing Afellay on Wednesday night in the cup.
Messi's ball for Pedrito to score last night. Discuss
And Mascherano finally looked like a Barca player.
QuoteMessi's ball for Pedrito to score last night. Discuss
Nearly as good as his free kick !!
Ballon D'Or ceremony on Eurosport tonight at 6.
Quote from: Gold on January 09, 2011, 11:28:13 PM
Messi's ball for Pedrito to score last night. Discuss
Got a bit lucky with the ricochet to give it back to him but the ball was incredible.
Carlo Garganese...100 players better than Cristiano Ronaldo
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2011/01/09/2297119/carlo-garganeses-comment-cristiano-ronaldo-the-greatest-of
Do you agree?
He must never have heard of John Giles or Liam Brady
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 10, 2011, 08:41:07 PM
He must never have heard of John Giles or Liam Brady
Roy Keane ;)
Quote from: ross4life on January 10, 2011, 07:28:03 PM
Carlo Garganese...100 players better than Cristiano Ronaldo
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2011/01/09/2297119/carlo-garganeses-comment-cristiano-ronaldo-the-greatest-of
Do you agree?
That is a crap article. There is no doubting that Ronaldo is a great player - one of the best at the minute. Both Ronaldo's agent however, and Carlo Garganese could be in with a shout for biggest bullshitters of the year.
Quote from: Puckoon on January 10, 2011, 08:50:28 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 10, 2011, 07:28:03 PM
Carlo Garganese...100 players better than Cristiano Ronaldo
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2011/01/09/2297119/carlo-garganeses-comment-cristiano-ronaldo-the-greatest-of
Do you agree?
That is a crap article. There is no doubting that Ronaldo is a great player - one of the best at the minute. Both Ronaldo's agent however, and Carlo Garganese could be in with a shout for biggest bullshitters of the year.
Followed closely by Guillem Balague & Eamon Dunphy
Quote from: ross4life on January 10, 2011, 08:46:51 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 10, 2011, 08:41:07 PM
He must never have heard of John Giles or Liam Brady
Roy Keane ;)
Redondo was a far better player than Keane.
What's wrong with Guillem?
Quote from: gallsman on January 10, 2011, 09:38:32 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 10, 2011, 08:46:51 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 10, 2011, 08:41:07 PM
He must never have heard of John Giles or Liam Brady
Roy Keane ;)
Redondo was a far better player than Keane.
What's wrong with ?
Long list of good defensive midfielders just pointing out to RLL he forgot he favourite Irish player.
Guillem is spanish Dunphy always has inside knowledge but more often than not talking through his hole.
Quote from: ross4life on January 10, 2011, 10:00:02 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 10, 2011, 09:38:32 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 10, 2011, 08:46:51 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 10, 2011, 08:41:07 PM
He must never have heard of John Giles or Liam Brady
Roy Keane ;)
Redondo was a far better player than Keane.
What's wrong with ?
Long list of good defensive midfielders just pointing out to RLL he forgot he favourite Irish player.
Guillem is spanish Dunphy always has inside knowledge but more often than not talking through his hole.
He wrote one of the best books I ever read on football called A season on the brink
Ross, you find Guillem annoying because he's Spanish???
Quote from: gallsman on January 10, 2011, 10:15:18 PM
Ross, you find Guillem annoying because he's Spanish???
What? he's annoying end of.
I asked what was wrong with Guillem and you said he's Spanish...
Unfortunately I don't have Sky Sports so I cannot follow La Liga in any great detail.
Is there an argument to be made that Barcelona are playing too well at the moment?
It is hard to see who can beat them at the minute but you just wonder come Champions league QFS/SFS in March/April could they come undone against a well organised defensive unit?
A bit like New Zealand between rugby world cups.
On Ronaldo he is a dick but what a player. His goals record over the last 4 seasons is unreal.
Quote from: gallsman on January 10, 2011, 10:49:13 PM
I asked what was wrong with Guillem and you said he's Spanish...
Spanish Dunphy i said
Quote from: ross4life on January 10, 2011, 11:25:07 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 10, 2011, 10:49:13 PM
I asked what was wrong with Guillem and you said he's Spanish...
Spanish Dunphy i said
Ah right you were
trying to imply that he's the Spanish equivalent of Eammon Dunphy.
Quote from: gallsman on January 10, 2011, 11:25:50 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 10, 2011, 11:25:07 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 10, 2011, 10:49:13 PM
I asked what was wrong with Guillem and you said he's Spanish...
Spanish Dunphy i said
Ah right you were trying to imply that he's the Spanish equivalent of Eammon Dunphy.
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f**k me Gallsman would you ever get off your high horse
Quote from: Orangemac on January 10, 2011, 11:22:07 PM
Unfortunately I don't have Sky Sports so I cannot follow La Liga in any great detail.
Is there an argument to be made that Barcelona are playing too well at the moment?
It is hard to see who can beat them at the minute but you just wonder come Champions league QFS/SFS in March/April could they come undone against a well organised defensive unit?
A bit like New Zealand between rugby world cups.
On Ronaldo he is a dick but what a player. His goals record over the last 4 seasons is unreal.
According to Andy Grey Stoke City would beat them! :D
Quote from: Applesisapples on January 11, 2011, 02:09:49 PM
Quote from: Orangemac on January 10, 2011, 11:22:07 PM
Unfortunately I don't have Sky Sports so I cannot follow La Liga in any great detail.
Is there an argument to be made that Barcelona are playing too well at the moment?
It is hard to see who can beat them at the minute but you just wonder come Champions league QFS/SFS in March/April could they come undone against a well organised defensive unit?
A bit like New Zealand between rugby world cups.
On Ronaldo he is a dick but what a player. His goals record over the last 4 seasons is unreal.
According to Andy Grey Stoke City would beat them! :D
Not a fan of Andy Gray but I'm not sure thats exactly what he said.
It was something along the lines of "he's a great player, but could he do it in the Premier League? I'd like to see him performing on a cold, wet night in Stoke the way he does in Spain every week"
Quote from: Gold on January 10, 2011, 11:48:10 PM
f**k me Gallsman would you ever get off your high horse
High horse? What? Away and f**k.
Quote from: Boycey on January 11, 2011, 02:30:51 PM
Not a fan of Andy Gray but I'm not sure thats exactly what he said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gop7ZLIL-g&feature=player_embedded
Quote from: gallsman on January 11, 2011, 07:02:39 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 11, 2011, 02:30:51 PM
Not a fan of Andy Gray but I'm not sure thats exactly what he said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gop7ZLIL-g&feature=player_embedded
Thanks for proving my point
Worth pointing out in his last season for United Ronaldo struggled for form away from home (in the league) he only scored v West Brom
You could ask the question where would Real Madrid be without him this season? he seems to be carrying the team & they better hope he doesn't get injured like Higuaín
Quote from: Boycey on January 11, 2011, 07:10:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 11, 2011, 07:02:39 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 11, 2011, 02:30:51 PM
Not a fan of Andy Gray but I'm not sure thats exactly what he said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gop7ZLIL-g&feature=player_embedded
Thanks for proving my point
The one I didn't contest? You're welcome. Always happy to help a friend in need.
Quote from: gallsman on January 11, 2011, 07:13:01 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 11, 2011, 07:10:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 11, 2011, 07:02:39 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 11, 2011, 02:30:51 PM
Not a fan of Andy Gray but I'm not sure thats exactly what he said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gop7ZLIL-g&feature=player_embedded
Thanks for proving my point
The one I didn't contest? You're welcome. Always happy to help a friend in need.
But I wasn't making the point to you I was making it to Applesisapples, so thank you.
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Quote from: gallsman on January 11, 2011, 07:02:39 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 11, 2011, 02:30:51 PM
Not a fan of Andy Gray but I'm not sure thats exactly what he said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gop7ZLIL-g&feature=player_embedded
Thanks for proving my point
My comment was tongue in cheek, I knew exactly what Gray had said, however to contend that La Liga is not as good as the PL is just crap, even Gerry Armstrong broke ranks with his fellow Brits on Sunday evening when he stated that the ball control and ability of even the lesser teams in La Liga was superior. I watch both leagues every week there is no comparison, yet British commentators insist on perpetrating this shite of the best league in the world. Take out the foreign players and its crap, just look at the English performance in the World Cup. But even the foreign players are battered into submission.
Quote from: Applesisapples on January 12, 2011, 09:19:04 AM
Quote from: Boycey on January 11, 2011, 07:10:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 11, 2011, 07:02:39 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 11, 2011, 02:30:51 PM
Not a fan of Andy Gray but I'm not sure thats exactly what he said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gop7ZLIL-g&feature=player_embedded
Thanks for proving my point
My comment was tongue in cheek, I knew exactly what Gray had said, however to contend that La Liga is not as good as the PL is just crap, even Gerry Armstrong broke ranks with his fellow Brits on Sunday evening when he stated that the ball control and ability of even the lesser teams in La Liga was superior. I watch both leagues every week there is no comparison, yet British commentators insist on perpetrating this shite of the best league in the world. Take out the foreign players and its crap, just look at the English performance in the World Cup. But even the foreign players are battered into submission.
Just because there is one exceptional team and one very good one in La Liga doesn't naturally follow that its better than the Premier League. I don't think there is much argument that the technical ability of the players in La Liga is higher but there is more to football than that, Arsenal I reckon are the best ball playing team in England but they have consistently fallen short over the last number of years. I think what Gray was saying (and I can't believe I'm siding with him) is that the lesser lights in Spain just seem to accept their lot and let Barca/Madrid steamroller them, with the honourable exception of Hercules!!
Just because there is one exceptional team and one very good one in La Liga doesn't naturally follow that its better than the Premier League. I don't think there is much argument that the technical ability of the players in La Liga is higher but there is more to football than that, Arsenal I reckon are the best ball playing team in England but they have consistently fallen short over the last number of years. I think what Gray was saying (and I can't believe I'm siding with him) is that the lesser lights in Spain just seem to accept their lot and let Barca/Madrid steamroller them, with the honourable exception of Hercules!![/quote]
The facts dont back up that belief. They are as many hammerings in the PL as la Liga.
http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,25212,12087_6563395,00.html
These are the main points from it.
It's been six years since anyone other than Chelsea or Manchester United won the Premier League title? Arsenal were Champions in 2003-04, the same season that the La Liga title was won by Valencia
And what about this myth that the rest of the chasing pack are much closer to the leaders in the Premier League? In the six years since Arsenal were Champions, the gap between first place and sixth place in the Premier League has averaged 28.8 points. In Spain that gap between Champions and the European contenders averages 24.8 points.
The argument usually goes something like this: "Ah, but the teams down the bottom of La Liga are rubbish; there are no easy games in the Premier League!" Is that right?
The gap between first and last in the Premier League? 65 points on average - while in Spain, the average points gap between top and bottom is 56.6 points over the same six year period
Quote from: Rossie11 on January 12, 2011, 12:15:43 PM
Just because there is one exceptional team and one very good one in La Liga doesn't naturally follow that its better than the Premier League. I don't think there is much argument that the technical ability of the players in La Liga is higher but there is more to football than that, Arsenal I reckon are the best ball playing team in England but they have consistently fallen short over the last number of years. I think what Gray was saying (and I can't believe I'm siding with him) is that the lesser lights in Spain just seem to accept their lot and let Barca/Madrid steamroller them, with the honourable exception of Hercules!!
The facts dont back up that belief. They are as many hammerings in the PL as la Liga.
http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,25212,12087_6563395,00.html
These are the main points from it.
It's been six years since anyone other than Chelsea or Manchester United won the Premier League title? Arsenal were Champions in 2003-04, the same season that the La Liga title was won by Valencia
And what about this myth that the rest of the chasing pack are much closer to the leaders in the Premier League? In the six years since Arsenal were Champions, the gap between first place and sixth place in the Premier League has averaged 28.8 points. In Spain that gap between Champions and the European contenders averages 24.8 points.
The argument usually goes something like this: "Ah, but the teams down the bottom of La Liga are rubbish; there are no easy games in the Premier League!" Is that right?
The gap between first and last in the Premier League? 65 points on average - while in Spain, the average points gap between top and bottom is 56.6 points over the same six year period
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Thanks Rossie I was basing my view on the quality of games but you can't beat the stats!
Quote from: Applesisapples on January 12, 2011, 01:28:39 PM
Quote from: Rossie11 on January 12, 2011, 12:15:43 PM
Just because there is one exceptional team and one very good one in La Liga doesn't naturally follow that its better than the Premier League. I don't think there is much argument that the technical ability of the players in La Liga is higher but there is more to football than that, Arsenal I reckon are the best ball playing team in England but they have consistently fallen short over the last number of years. I think what Gray was saying (and I can't believe I'm siding with him) is that the lesser lights in Spain just seem to accept their lot and let Barca/Madrid steamroller them, with the honourable exception of Hercules!!
The facts dont back up that belief. They are as many hammerings in the PL as la Liga.
http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,25212,12087_6563395,00.html
These are the main points from it.
It's been six years since anyone other than Chelsea or Manchester United won the Premier League title? Arsenal were Champions in 2003-04, the same season that the La Liga title was won by Valencia
And what about this myth that the rest of the chasing pack are much closer to the leaders in the Premier League? In the six years since Arsenal were Champions, the gap between first place and sixth place in the Premier League has averaged 28.8 points. In Spain that gap between Champions and the European contenders averages 24.8 points.
The argument usually goes something like this: "Ah, but the teams down the bottom of La Liga are rubbish; there are no easy games in the Premier League!" Is that right?
The gap between first and last in the Premier League? 65 points on average - while in Spain, the average points gap between top and bottom is 56.6 points over the same six year period
Thanks Rossie I was basing my view on the quality of games but you can't beat the stats!
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I wasn't questioning the merits of La Liga against the Premier League just that I believe Gray, for once, had a point in what he was saying
Quote from: Applesisapples on January 12, 2011, 09:19:04 AM
Quote from: Boycey on January 11, 2011, 07:10:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 11, 2011, 07:02:39 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 11, 2011, 02:30:51 PM
Not a fan of Andy Gray but I'm not sure thats exactly what he said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gop7ZLIL-g&feature=player_embedded
Thanks for proving my point
My comment was tongue in cheek, I knew exactly what Gray had said, however to contend that La Liga is not as good as the PL is just crap, even Gerry Armstrong broke ranks with his fellow Brits on Sunday evening when he stated that the ball control and ability of even the lesser teams in La Liga was superior. I watch both leagues every week there is no comparison, yet British commentators insist on perpetrating this shite of the best league in the world. Take out the foreign players and its crap, just look at the English performance in the World Cup. But even the foreign players are battered into submission.
Understand what your saying but the bit in bold is not a good example? during the late 70s early 80s when the English league was at the best in Europe the England team was still crap! failing at major tournaments.
Barca 4-0 up in cup 3 from Messi, showing Arsenal how it's done (playing all the big hitters & winning the tie in the 1st leg)
Quote from: ross4life on January 12, 2011, 10:40:39 PM
Barca 4-0 up in cup 3 from Messi, showing Arsenal how it's done (playing all the big hitters & winning the tie in the 1st leg)
And not quite finished just yet by the looks of things. Betis keeper played a blinder but couldn't keep them at bay forever.
5 now.
Quote from: gallsman on January 12, 2011, 10:44:17 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 12, 2011, 10:40:39 PM
Barca 4-0 up in cup 3 from Messi, showing Arsenal how it's done (playing all the big hitters & winning the tie in the 1st leg)
And not quite finished just yet by the looks of things. Betis keeper played a blinder but couldn't keep them at bay forever.
5-0 over now?
Some game from keeper all right. 13 saves
Had cheeky fiver on 5-0 at 12s. Glad the ref played no injury time!
Good nights work so Doogie, that's the 8th time Barca have scored 5 or more goals this season & 15th clean sheet.
Messi celebrated in style alright.
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Quote from: Boycey on January 11, 2011, 02:30:51 PM
Not a fan of Andy Gray but I'm not sure thats exactly what he said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gop7ZLIL-g&feature=player_embedded
Thanks for proving my point
My comment was tongue in cheek, I knew exactly what Gray had said, however to contend that La Liga is not as good as the PL is just crap, even Gerry Armstrong broke ranks with his fellow Brits on Sunday evening when he stated that the ball control and ability of even the lesser teams in La Liga was superior. I watch both leagues every week there is no comparison, yet British commentators insist on perpetrating this shite of the best league in the world. Take out the foreign players and its crap, just look at the English performance in the World Cup. But even the foreign players are battered into submission.
Understand what your saying but the bit in bold is not a good example? during the late 70s early 80s when the English league was at the best in Europe the England team was still crap! failing at major tournaments.
I remember watching one of Liverpools European Cup Finals from the 80's, a while back, there was 1 English Player might have been Clements the others were Welsh Scots and Irish. But there is definitely a gap in ability between "British" players and the Continentals. I do accept that soccer allows a team to play a flat back 11 which even Barca or Real would struggle at times to break down in certain circumstances...That's why I prefer GAA the best teams win more often.
Quote from: Applesisapples on January 13, 2011, 11:05:47 AM
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Quote from: Boycey on January 11, 2011, 07:10:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 11, 2011, 07:02:39 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 11, 2011, 02:30:51 PM
Not a fan of Andy Gray but I'm not sure thats exactly what he said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gop7ZLIL-g&feature=player_embedded
Thanks for proving my point
My comment was tongue in cheek, I knew exactly what Gray had said, however to contend that La Liga is not as good as the PL is just crap, even Gerry Armstrong broke ranks with his fellow Brits on Sunday evening when he stated that the ball control and ability of even the lesser teams in La Liga was superior. I watch both leagues every week there is no comparison, yet British commentators insist on perpetrating this shite of the best league in the world. Take out the foreign players and its crap, just look at the English performance in the World Cup. But even the foreign players are battered into submission.
Understand what your saying but the bit in bold is not a good example? during the late 70s early 80s when the English league was at the best in Europe the England team was still crap! failing at major tournaments.
I remember watching one of Liverpools European Cup Finals from the 80's, a while back, there was 1 English Player might have been Clements the others were Welsh Scots and Irish. But there is definitely a gap in ability between "British" players and the Continentals. I do accept that soccer allows a team to play a flat back 11 which even Barca or Real would struggle at times to break down in certain circumstances...That's why I prefer GAA the best teams win more often.
Yes by the mid 80s Liverpool were Welsh Scots and Irish team. first team to start a Fa cup final without any English players in 1986,
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Quote from: Boycey on January 11, 2011, 07:10:20 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 11, 2011, 07:02:39 PM
Quote from: Boycey on January 11, 2011, 02:30:51 PM
Not a fan of Andy Gray but I'm not sure thats exactly what he said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gop7ZLIL-g&feature=player_embedded
Thanks for proving my point
My comment was tongue in cheek, I knew exactly what Gray had said, however to contend that La Liga is not as good as the PL is just crap, even Gerry Armstrong broke ranks with his fellow Brits on Sunday evening when he stated that the ball control and ability of even the lesser teams in La Liga was superior. I watch both leagues every week there is no comparison, yet British commentators insist on perpetrating this shite of the best league in the world. Take out the foreign players and its crap, just look at the English performance in the World Cup. But even the foreign players are battered into submission.
Understand what your saying but the bit in bold is not a good example? during the late 70s early 80s when the English league was at the best in Europe the England team was still crap! failing at major tournaments.
I remember watching one of Liverpools European Cup Finals from the 80's, a while back, there was 1 English Player might have been Clements the others were Welsh Scots and Irish. But there is definitely a gap in ability between "British" players and the Continentals. I do accept that soccer allows a team to play a flat back 11 which even Barca or Real would struggle at times to break down in certain circumstances...That's why I prefer GAA the best teams win more often.
Yes by the mid 80s Liverpool were Welsh Scots and Irish team. first team to start a Fa cup final without any English players in 1986,
Mark Lawrenson is English sometimes,depends on which show he is on...
I dont know how relevant this is - but I play a lot of soccer over here in the city - and its primarily against hispanic fellas, from all over Latin America. Even the worst of them is very comfortable on the ball, and some of them who have played in the professional leagues in the smaller south American countries just amaze you with their control, touch - and most impressive of all - the power in their shots. I play with some ex pats, ex Rangers youth player, ex Lisburn Distillery player, and some NCAA-1 college soccer players and 1 ex MLIS player and in an indoor game, we have to set up very defensively to play these guys as they will tear you to shreds in a small sided game. In the outdoor full sided game however they are just not able to cope with the physical aspect of team play. Play a solid back 4 against them and hit them on the break with quick ball movement (very little of the fancy technical stuff) and you'll beat them every time.
These types ("Continental") of players are coached from a very early age with close ball control - whereas a lot of the English and Irish guys I play with who were coached soccer are ingrained with the defence first and quick solid passing. Two completely different philosophies and you can see it as clear as day when you put a bunch of ex pat gringos up against a hispanic team. That and the fact that there is a good foot of height difference across the field.
Andy Gray at it again in the Star newspaper today.
He doesn't understand how Messi who failed to shine in the World cup won the Ballon D'Or & he thinks La-liga games are testimonial like (too easy for R Madrid,Barca) & thinks it's one of the least competitive leagues in Europe. even the SPL is tougher :o
I really want to like Andy Gray, but he repeatedly insists on making a fool out of himself, just because Messi didn't score at the WC doesn't mean he didn't play well. He didn't score in the Clasico either, but I think it's fair to say his performance that night wasn't too shabby. La Liga is becoming worryingly uncompetitive, although I think it's a far cry from the SPL at this stage. I could imagine Valencia or Villareal winning La Liga in the next few years, as unlikely as that is, there's a far better chance of it happening than anyone outside Celtic or Rangers winning the SPL.
Madrid dropped two points away to bottom club Almería. Ronaldo crashed a free kick off the bar at the death to almost snatch it.
Iniesta has but Barca 1-0 with a cracking first time strike at home to Málaga.
Another 5-0 on the cards?
UNBELIEVABLY quiet at the Camp Nou during play and they are 2-0 up ???
2-0 up and not twenty minutes gone. God knows what it will end up.
3-0. Pedro.
Can't really call it a good game? more like a practice stuff for Barca.
Coming up the thoughts of Guillem Balague i'd rather watch the All-Ireland talent show.
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2011, 08:51:52 PM
Can't really call it a good game? more like a practice stuff for Barca.
Coming up the thoughts of Guillem Balague i rather watch the All-Ireland talent show.
What did Balague do on you?
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Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2011, 08:51:52 PM
Can't really call it a good game? more like a practice stuff for Barca.
Coming up the thoughts of Guillem Balague i rather watch the All-Ireland talent show.
What did Balague do on you?
Apparently he's the Spanish Eammon Dunphy.
Quote from: Minder on January 16, 2011, 08:53:10 PM
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2011, 08:51:52 PM
Can't really call it a good game? more like a practice stuff for Barca.
Coming up the thoughts of Guillem Balague i rather watch the All-Ireland talent show.
What did Balague do on you?
One of those "what did the romans ever do for us" comments?
Hole in one Galls.
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Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2011, 08:51:52 PM
Can't really call it a good game? more like a practice stuff for Barca.
Coming up the thoughts of Guillem Balague i rather watch the All-Ireland talent show.
What did Balague do on you?
One of those "what did the romans ever do for us" comments?
Hole in one Galls.
I'm not agreeing with you - I'm just pointing out what you gave as your reason a few days ago (or at least tried to).
Most people would say Balague is an excellent journalist.
Perhaps you could give us some specific examples as to why exactly you dislike his punditry?
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Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2011, 08:51:52 PM
Can't really call it a good game? more like a practice stuff for Barca.
Coming up the thoughts of Guillem Balague i rather watch the All-Ireland talent show.
What did Balague do on you?
One of those "what did the romans ever do for us" comments?
Hole in one Galls.
I'm not agreeing with you - I'm just pointing out what you gave as your reason a few days ago (or at least tried to).
Most people would say Balague is an excellent journalist.
Perhaps you could give us some specific examples as to why exactly you dislike his punditry?
Who's the most Liverpool or Barcelona fans? & some also think Dunphy is a good journalist/pundit
Look for examples? look yourself I'm not your messenger boy.
you give it to him ross!! he thinks you have to answer to him :D ;)
what do you make of Gerry Armstrong's Sky punditry on Spanish football by the way?
Ross, you've just shown yourself to be completely ignorant - Balague is an Espanyol fan.
I like Armstrong - he'd make a great guy to talk about Football Manager with.
Quote from: sammymaguire on January 16, 2011, 09:22:58 PM
you give it to him ross!! he thinks you have to answer to him :D ;)
what do you make of Gerry Armstrong's Sky punditry on Spanish football by the way?
Armstrong is decent kinda like Liam brady when he's on RTE
Quote from: gallsman on January 16, 2011, 09:29:22 PM
Ross, you've just shown yourself to be completely ignorant - Balague is an Espanyol fan.
I like Armstrong - he'd make a great guy to talk about Football Manager with.
Did i say anywhere he was a Barcelona fan?
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Quote from: gallsman on January 16, 2011, 09:29:22 PM
Ross, you've just shown yourself to be completely ignorant - Balague is an Espanyol fan.
I like Armstrong - he'd make a great guy to talk about Football Manager with.
Did i say anywhere he was a Barcelona fan?
You implied it. He has no reason to praise Barcelona other than admit their brilliance. You have no basis for your argument whatsoever and have shown yourself to be a complete and utter imbecile.
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Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2011, 09:33:28 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 16, 2011, 09:29:22 PM
Ross, you've just shown yourself to be completely ignorant - Balague is an Espanyol fan.
I like Armstrong - he'd make a great guy to talk about Football Manager with.
Did i say anywhere he was a Barcelona fan?
You implied it. He has no reason to praise Barcelona other than admit their brilliance. You have no basis for your argument whatsoever and have shown yourself to be a complete and utter imbecile.
BS you just read a post wrong again! & not man enough to admit your mistake. best advice i can give...When the college exam papers comes along make sure you read them correctly.
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Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2011, 09:33:28 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 16, 2011, 09:29:22 PM
Ross, you've just shown yourself to be completely ignorant - Balague is an Espanyol fan.
I like Armstrong - he'd make a great guy to talk about Football Manager with.
Did i say anywhere he was a Barcelona fan?
You implied it. He has no reason to praise Barcelona other than admit their brilliance. You have no basis for your argument whatsoever and have shown yourself to be a complete and utter imbecile.
BS you just read a post wrong again! & not man enough to admit your mistake. best advice i can give...When the college exam papers comes along make sure you read them correctly.
Pathetic.
He can go on a bit like that Derek McGovern and his loathing of United, in his love of Barca. We all know they are awesome
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Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2011, 09:33:28 PM
Quote from: gallsman on January 16, 2011, 09:29:22 PM
Ross, you've just shown yourself to be completely ignorant - Balague is an Espanyol fan.
I like Armstrong - he'd make a great guy to talk about Football Manager with.
Did i say anywhere he was a Barcelona fan?
You implied it. He has no reason to praise Barcelona other than admit their brilliance. You have no basis for your argument whatsoever and have shown yourself to be a complete and utter imbecile.
BS you just read a post wrong again! & not man enough to admit your mistake. best advice i can give...When the college exam papers comes along make sure you read them correctly.
:-\ You are a strange boyo
Quote from: sammymaguire on January 16, 2011, 09:47:58 PM
He can go on a bit like that Derek McGovern and his loathing of United, in his love of Barca. We all know they are awesome
Like I said, it's done out of nothing but admiration - they're playing some of the best football any of us have ever seen. He's an Espanyol fan so has no reason to give them undue praise.
Quote from: ross4life on January 16, 2011, 08:51:52 PM
Can't really call it a good game? more like a practice stuff for Barca.
Coming up the thoughts of Guillem Balague i'd rather watch the All-Ireland talent show.
Or as Andy Gray might say, testimonial like!
Shouldn't have expected more I suppose from this 1/4 of the cup. Boring beyond belief. Betis 3 Barca 1. (3-6 agg).
Barca 3 up in 16 mins tonight in cup. 2 for Messy.
4-0 after 30.
What will they do to Arsenal?
And MU if they hold of them? For SAF, the thought of what Barce's midfield might do to Fletcher, Scholes, Carrick, Park, Nani et al must be particularly horrifying. Just hope John O Shea isn't picked against Messi.
Madrid a few mins away from being beaten.
Madrid beaten 1-0 by Osasuna, Madrid 7 points behind Barca now.
Pressure must be growing on Mourinho now. in any other league he would be top but he is on a hiding to nothing as he up against one of the best teams in Europe over the last 30 years ( and probably the easiest on the eye)
Seems to be making noises about returning to England but to where? Surely only Liverpool or City unless Fergie is planning a surprise resignation at the end of the season.
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 30, 2011, 07:54:47 PM
Madrid beaten 1-0 by Osasuna, Madrid 7 points behind Barca now.
Season over.
Ronaldo hasn't scored in 3 games, what a dungbag.
Mourinho to return EPL to manage United next season and bring Ronaldo back with him. Fact! I've a well connected source who regularly drinks with Jose on his nights off. ;)
Osasuna were definitely worth their win too, fought tooth and nail to get it.
The Osasuna fans throwing footballs onto the the pitch at particularly inappropriate times for the Madrid players was a bit harsh. Marca will be going mad in the morning.
Rossi scored a beauty on the stroke of half time to put Villareal up against Espanyol. Nearly over and score is still 1-0.
Not La Liga, but check out Claudio Marchisio's goal for Juve tonight in their 2-1 defeat to Udinese. Unreal.
Guillem Balague has just stated that i the last 24 hours, Spurs have lodged bids for Negredo, Aguero, Llorente and Rossi. All of which have been rejected. Apparently the Rossi one was for €30 million.
Where the hell is all that money coming from? Has Harry been saving up all the bungs he took over the years?!
Guardiola has signed a contract extension, he'll be there until June 2012.
Somewhat off topic, Argentina v Portugal (Messi v Ronaldo) live now http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=104728&part=sports
1-0 great pass Messi super finish Di Maria,Ronado 1-1
Finished 2-1 Messi injury time penalty won it
Sporting Gijon 1 - 0 Barcelona 65mins gone I'm sure the Madrid & Arsenal fan's are watching on with interest
1-1 some finish that
Quote from: ross4life on February 12, 2011, 08:38:11 PM
1-1 some finish that
f**k sake. Just went to the bog and missed it.
Unbelievable pressure they've coped with.
Preciado has really turned it around for Sporting after almost getting the sack a few weeks back.
Quote from: gallsman on February 12, 2011, 08:39:15 PM
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1-1 some finish that
f**k sake. Just went to the bog and missed it.
Unbelievable pressure they've coped with.
What were ya doing in the bog this time of year?
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1-1 some finish that
f**k sake. Just went to the bog and missed it.
Unbelievable pressure they've coped with.
getting butter probably
What were ya doing in the bog this time of year?
1-0 Away win for Real Madrid tonight v Espanyol played the whole game with 10 men (Casillas sent off in the second minute)
Have we got a title race?
PL GD PTS
1 Barcelona 23 59 62
2 Real Madrid 23 33 57
Maybe if Madrid beat Barca in April.
This Saturday marks another special anniversary for Real Madrid coach Jose Mourinho. It is nine years since one of the four teams he has managed since 2002 - Porto, Chelsea, Inter Milan and Real - lost a league match at home.
MOURINHO'S HOME RUN
Porto: P38 W36 D2
Chelsea: P60 W46 D14
Internazionale: P38 W29 D9
Real Madrid: P11 W11
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/9399728.stm
Some record i wonder will he carry that unbeaten record into the Barca game.
Are Barca going to drop more points tonight? currently 1-1 at home with Athletic Bilbao
Should be a interesting 35mins
f**k if that aint a pen what is !!
Messi to the rescue
More like Bibao's luck finally ran out than a Messi rescue.
He's been out of sorts this past few weeks, but Messi was brilliant for that last half hour. Hopefully he's back to his best because the next few fixtures are going to be tough ones and they come thick and fast.
Poor Jose not happy with Deportivos tactics at weekend..
http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2011/02/27/2370807/real-madrid-coach-jose-mourinho-we-played-against-one-goalkeeper
Speaking to AS, the former Chelsea and Inter boss held nothing back as he spoke his mind after the game. ''We played against one goalkeeper and 10 defenders for the second half. Only one team played to win. The other played to exhaustion and defended and they won the prize. We, who tried to win, are penalised for this.'' he vehemently added.
:D
He's got a short memory.
Valencia v Barcelona 9pm tonight on SS2 should be a good one.
Quote from: ross4life on March 02, 2011, 08:24:57 PM
Valencia v Barcelona 9pm tonight on SS2 should be a good one.
looks like a nil nil
Enjoyable game all the same played at an unbelievably high tempo.
Quote from: ross4life on March 02, 2011, 10:21:42 PM
Enjoyable game all the same played at an unbelievably high tempo.
Certainly better than that Scottish shite earlier..
Messi again keeper should have done better
Keeper should have kept that out.
7-0 to Real Madrid tonight. HT for the winker/w**ker
Barca are starting to struggle, Arsenal could do them tomorrow. Real are starting to crank it up as well.
QuoteBarca are starting to struggle,
Struggle to score 3 a game you mean..
Madrid still have to go to Bilbao, Atletico, Valencia, Villarreal and Sevilla yet.
After all his bluster last week Jose is going to struggle to match Pellegrinis points total last season. Throw in the humiliating 5-0 at Nou camp and the Champions league is now more important to Madrid than Barca. They might have to win it for Jose to keep his job
Sevilla 1 Barcelona 1 don't know how barca didn't win that? so the title race is back to 5pts
Great game, end to end stuff. Barcelona will be kicking themselves although the ref was poor, seemed to be intimidated by the home crowd and got some key decisions wrong. Big week for Madrid with the CL game and away to Atletico next weekend, hopefully they won't role over like the first derby of the season.
The Ref made Kaplan and his Touch Judge in Wales v Ireland seem like model professionals!
Reading on twitter that the doctors have discovered that Eric Abidal has a tumor on his liver, he'll be operated on this Friday.
Quote from: paco on March 15, 2011, 09:06:26 PM
Reading on twitter that the doctors have discovered that Eric Abidal has a tumor on his liver, he'll be operated on this Friday.
Jaysus that's cat.
Eric Abidal to undergo surgery after Barcelona full-back diagnosed with a liver tumour
Barcelona defender Eric Abidal will undergo surgery after the club announced he has a liver tumour.
The Primera Division club announced the news regarding the 31-year-old French player via their official Twitter feed.
Surgery: Abidal
Barcelona announced: 'A liver tumour has been detected in the player Eric Abidal and he will be treated surgically next Friday.
'Abidal will be operated on by Dr Josep Fuster Obregon. Per the express wish of the player, we call for the utmost respect for the right to privacy.'
Barcelona confirmed in a short statement on their website that Abidal will be operated upon at the BarnaClinic Grup Hospital Clinic, in the city.
Abidal joined Barcelona from Lyon in 2007 and has been a regular this season in the team which leads the Primera Division and has reached the Champions League quarter-finals.
He played in both matches against Arsenal in the last 16 of the latter competition.
Capped 52 times by France, Abidal made his international debut in 2004 and has played at two World Cups as well as the 2008 European Championship.
Real Madrid's Brazilian playmaker Kaka reacted to the news by writing on Twitter: 'What sad news about Eric Abidal, tumor in the liver! Let's pray for him .. God bless!!'
Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas wished Abidal well.
Fabregas wrote on Twitter: 'Much encouragement and a lot of strength to Eric Abidal. Bad news for footbal
He had been playing some great stuff this year too, much improved. They will miss him.
Mourinho's unbeaten home run nearly at an end. 1-0 down in injury time.
Can't believe that result! Supposedly Mourinho went into the Gijon dressing room afterwards and congratulated them all, wonder what sort of a reception Preciado gave him.
League might as well be over now. Unlikely that Barca will drop 8 points before the end of the season even with the el classico coming up
When is the Spanish Cup Final on?
Quote from: Dave on April 02, 2011, 11:27:48 PM
When is the Spanish Cup Final on?
Wed 20th April
Guardiola has hinted he might leave Barca. I would be surprised if he does as he has said this before but never didhttp://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11827_6846854,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11827_6846854,00.html)
Quote from: Forever Green on April 02, 2011, 11:34:07 PM
Quote from: Dave on April 02, 2011, 11:27:48 PM
When is the Spanish Cup Final on?
Wed 20th April
el classico in the league is on 17th april, and a possible 2 legged CL semi is on 26th April/3rd May, they could be fed up looking at each other. Could be great viewing though
Quote from: Forever Green on April 03, 2011, 12:32:03 AM
Guardiola has hinted he might leave Barca. I would be surprised if he does as he has said this before but never didhttp://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11827_6846854,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11827_6846854,00.html)
He's almost certainly leaving after next season. He says 4 years is a long time, players get sick of managers and vice versa. He's already won everything and, if you believe what Guillem Balague says (which I generally do, gets it right most of the time), he'll be going to England.
I came across this stat.
The gap between 1st & 20th in the Premier League is currently 35 points. In La Liga, the gap between 1st & 5th is 36 points.
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 04:04:50 PM
I came across this stat.
The gap between 1st & 20th in the Premier League is currently 35 points. In La Liga, the gap between 1st & 5th is 36 points.
If United were capable of winning away games regularly the PL gap would be an awful lot bigger.
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 04:04:50 PM
I came across this stat.
The gap between 1st & 20th in the Premier League is currently 35 points. In La Liga, the gap between 1st & 5th is 36 points.
Did it really turn you on that much?
Quote from: gallsman on April 05, 2011, 05:48:00 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 04:04:50 PM
I came across this stat.
The gap between 1st & 20th in the Premier League is currently 35 points. In La Liga, the gap between 1st & 5th is 36 points.
If United were capable of winning away games regularly the PL gap would be an awful lot bigger.
Or..maybe the quality of opposition is better in PL?
Quote from: laoislad on April 05, 2011, 05:52:30 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 04:04:50 PM
I came across this stat.
The gap between 1st & 20th in the Premier League is currently 35 points. In La Liga, the gap between 1st & 5th is 36 points.
Did it really turn you on that much?
RLL, i tied barbed wire round my underpants and I flagellated myself on the floor.
Fcuk sake Ross.
Quote from: ONeill on April 05, 2011, 07:20:28 PM
Fcuk sake Ross.
Common O'Neill some sense of humour? just quoting the great man.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Common_Man
It's the way we say it here RLL, Common the rossies...get it?
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 07:29:13 PM
It's the way we say it here RLL, Common the rossies...get it?
...must...resist....obvious abuse.........arghhhhhhh.
Quote from: muppet on April 06, 2011, 12:35:13 AM
Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 07:29:13 PM
It's the way we say it here RLL, Common the rossies...get it?
...must...resist....obvious abuse.........arghhhhhhh.
Good, the medication seems to be working ;)
Quote from: ross4life on April 06, 2011, 12:44:04 AM
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Quote from: ross4life on April 05, 2011, 07:29:13 PM
It's the way we say it here RLL, Common the rossies...get it?
...must...resist....obvious abuse.........arghhhhhhh.
Good, the medication seems to be working ;)
I need another few cases of it and send some up to Hoof Hearted while you're at it.
Tonight Messi got his 48th goal of the season (in 46 games), overtaking Ronaldo's record in the 96-97 season of 47 goals in a season (49 games).
With still another possible 10/11 games to go, can he reach 60 goals this season?
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on April 12, 2011, 10:40:07 PM
Tonight Messi got his 48th goal of the season (in 46 games), overtaking Ronaldo's record in the 96-97 season of 47 goals in a season (49 games).
With still another possible 10/11 games to go, can he reach 60 goals this season?
He's kind of tailed off the last six weeks or so compared to the rate he'd been going at before. It's a distinct possibility, but I reckon he, and other first teamers, may sit out some league matches due to the cramped schedule vs. Real over the next few weeks.
They could do with David Villa getting a bit of form back this weekend, good to have Pedro back because Iniesta has been playing out of position and Afellay hasn't really impressed so far. Bojan out for the season and Mascherano suspended for the weekend, they'll miss him I reckon, he's been playing great these past few weeks.
Looking like a 3rd home defeat for Mourinho in as many weeks, title race over now if it wasn't already.
Is it true Ronaldo was axed tonight after blasting Mourinho's tactics?
Who is to blame tonight Jose??
;D
Quote from: ross4life on April 30, 2011, 06:45:33 PM
Is it true Ronaldo was axed tonight after blasting Mourinho's tactics?
He gave an explanation for all the other absentees in a press conference, and when asked about why Ronaldo wasn't playing he said "I have my own reasons for that".
Quote from: paco on April 30, 2011, 07:29:28 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 30, 2011, 06:45:33 PM
Is it true Ronaldo was axed tonight after blasting Mourinho's tactics?
He gave an explanation for all the other absentees in a press conference, and when asked about why Ronaldo wasn't playing he said "I have my own reasons for that".
At the same time, does anyone doubt he'll be playing on Tuesday?
Quote from: gallsman on April 30, 2011, 08:06:15 PM
Quote from: paco on April 30, 2011, 07:29:28 PM
Quote from: ross4life on April 30, 2011, 06:45:33 PM
Is it true Ronaldo was axed tonight after blasting Mourinho's tactics?
He gave an explanation for all the other absentees in a press conference, and when asked about why Ronaldo wasn't playing he said "I have my own reasons for that".
At the same time, does anyone doubt he'll be playing on Tuesday?
I wouldn't be surprised if it was just Mourinho acting the bollix and they planned to rest him all along. Sorry when I say "acting the bollix" I mean "mind games"..........
He'll be there on Tuesday. I can't understand why Pep has started Messi in this game tonight, though. If the result stays as it is, they need 1 point from their remaining games to win the league, and he still has Messi AND Xavi on! If anything, this game is made for Villa to score a few and get the confidence up, but he's on the bench. I'll trust Pep's judgement anyway, it's not me who's coaching them...yet.
Well at least Pellegrini's Real Madrid pushed Barca all the way last season accumulating 96pts along the way.
Wrongly disallowed goal against Milito. Clear evidence of a pro-Madrid conspiracy amongst Spanish officials.
Pinto and Mascherano desvered that for being knobs.
Anyone pick out the 82.5/1 double this evening with the big two getting beat?
Quote from: sammymaguire on April 30, 2011, 09:06:14 PM
Anyone pick out the 82.5/1 double this evening with the big two getting beat?
Has to be someone, probably minus 1 each too ;D
Messi can't do it on a cold night in San Sebastián
Ronaldo with another hat-trick tonight, 37 goals in La Liga now. looks like he'll get the golden boot in Spain?
Pichichi
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 10, 2011, 11:12:35 PM
Ronaldo with another hat-trick tonight, 37 goals in La Liga now. looks like he'll get the golden boot in Spain?
He'll be going all out to break the record of 38 in the final game. Currently shared by Telmo Zarra an Hugo Sánchez - Zarra's record has stood for 60 years!
Barca wrap up La Liga with an anti-climactic and underwhelming 1-1 draw against Levante. Never left first gear.
3 in a row not since that days of Johan Cruyff.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 11, 2011, 09:05:49 PM
3 in a row not since that days of Johan Cruyff.
That was only 17 years ago that Cruyff won his fourth. Not really a big wait for a 3 in a row, especially with the rise of Deportivo and Valencia at the turn of the century.
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 11, 2011, 09:05:49 PM
3 in a row not since that days of Johan Cruyff.
That was only 17 years ago that Cruyff won his fourth. Not really a big wait for a 3 in a row, especially with the rise of Deportivo and Valencia at the turn of the century.
Google doesn't really provide context, unless you dig a bit deeper on it.
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:19:40 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 11, 2011, 09:05:49 PM
3 in a row not since that days of Johan Cruyff.
That was only 17 years ago that Cruyff won his fourth. Not really a big wait for a 3 in a row, especially with the rise of Deportivo and Valencia at the turn of the century.
Google doesn't really provide context, unless you dig a bit deeper on it.
Or, you could just be like me and know quite a bit about Spanish football.
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:24:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:19:40 PM
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Quote from: Blowitupref on May 11, 2011, 09:05:49 PM
3 in a row not since that days of Johan Cruyff.
That was only 17 years ago that Cruyff won his fourth. Not really a big wait for a 3 in a row, especially with the rise of Deportivo and Valencia at the turn of the century.
Google doesn't really provide context, unless you dig a bit deeper on it.
Or, you could just be like me and know quite a bit about Spanish football.
I was referring to Google Central, Ross.
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:31:12 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:24:05 PM
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Quote from: Blowitupref on May 11, 2011, 09:05:49 PM
3 in a row not since that days of Johan Cruyff.
That was only 17 years ago that Cruyff won his fourth. Not really a big wait for a 3 in a row, especially with the rise of Deportivo and Valencia at the turn of the century.
Google doesn't really provide context, unless you dig a bit deeper on it.
Or, you could just be like me and know quite a bit about Spanish football.
I was referring to Google Central, Ross.
Ah, my apologies. I think ross knows more than I originally gave him credit for. Still doesn't talk any sense though.
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:31:12 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:24:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:19:40 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 11, 2011, 09:05:49 PM
3 in a row not since that days of Johan Cruyff.
That was only 17 years ago that Cruyff won his fourth. Not really a big wait for a 3 in a row, especially with the rise of Deportivo and Valencia at the turn of the century.
Google doesn't really provide context, unless you dig a bit deeper on it.
Or, you could just be like me and know quite a bit about Spanish football.
I was referring to Google Central, Ross.
Ah, my apologies. I think ross knows more than I originally gave him credit for. Still doesn't talk any sense though.
Still think he is a WUM.
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:36:49 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:31:12 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:24:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:19:40 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 11, 2011, 09:05:49 PM
3 in a row not since that days of Johan Cruyff.
That was only 17 years ago that Cruyff won his fourth. Not really a big wait for a 3 in a row, especially with the rise of Deportivo and Valencia at the turn of the century.
Google doesn't really provide context, unless you dig a bit deeper on it.
Or, you could just be like me and know quite a bit about Spanish football.
I was referring to Google Central, Ross.
Ah, my apologies. I think ross knows more than I originally gave him credit for. Still doesn't talk any sense though.
Still think he is a WUM.
A WUM would be Liverpool fan that uses Chelsea/Arsenal club crests during the season! now google that bitch :-*
I wonder will Barcelona get fined for that weakened team tonight or does them rules apply in Spain?
Quote from: ross4life on May 11, 2011, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:36:49 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:31:12 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:24:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:19:40 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 11, 2011, 09:05:49 PM
3 in a row not since that days of Johan Cruyff.
That was only 17 years ago that Cruyff won his fourth. Not really a big wait for a 3 in a row, especially with the rise of Deportivo and Valencia at the turn of the century.
Google doesn't really provide context, unless you dig a bit deeper on it.
Or, you could just be like me and know quite a bit about Spanish football.
I was referring to Google Central, Ross.
Ah, my apologies. I think ross knows more than I originally gave him credit for. Still doesn't talk any sense though.
Still think he is a WUM.
A WUM would be Liverpool fan that uses Chelsea/Arsenal club crests during the season! now google that bitch :-*
What exactly is he supposed to google?
Quote from: gallsman on May 15, 2011, 09:17:48 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 11, 2011, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:36:49 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:31:12 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:24:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:19:40 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 11, 2011, 09:05:49 PM
3 in a row not since that days of Johan Cruyff.
That was only 17 years ago that Cruyff won his fourth. Not really a big wait for a 3 in a row, especially with the rise of Deportivo and Valencia at the turn of the century.
Google doesn't really provide context, unless you dig a bit deeper on it.
Or, you could just be like me and know quite a bit about Spanish football.
I was referring to Google Central, Ross.
Ah, my apologies. I think ross knows more than I originally gave him credit for. Still doesn't talk any sense though.
Still think he is a WUM.
A WUM would be Liverpool fan that uses Chelsea/Arsenal club crests during the season! now google that bitch :-*
What exactly is he supposed to google?
I'd say he (minder) needs to google the term WUM.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 15, 2011, 09:19:58 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 15, 2011, 09:17:48 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 11, 2011, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:36:49 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:31:12 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:24:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:19:40 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 11, 2011, 09:05:49 PM
3 in a row not since that days of Johan Cruyff.
That was only 17 years ago that Cruyff won his fourth. Not really a big wait for a 3 in a row, especially with the rise of Deportivo and Valencia at the turn of the century.
Google doesn't really provide context, unless you dig a bit deeper on it.
Or, you could just be like me and know quite a bit about Spanish football.
I was referring to Google Central, Ross.
Ah, my apologies. I think ross knows more than I originally gave him credit for. Still doesn't talk any sense though.
Still think he is a WUM.
A WUM would be Liverpool fan that uses Chelsea/Arsenal club crests during the season! now google that bitch :-*
What exactly is he supposed to google?
I'd say he (minder) needs to google the term WUM.
Why would he do that seeing as ross just gave him a definition? Why explain something to someone and then tell them to google it?
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 15, 2011, 09:19:58 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 15, 2011, 09:17:48 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 11, 2011, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:36:49 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:31:12 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:24:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:19:40 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 11, 2011, 09:05:49 PM
3 in a row not since that days of Johan Cruyff.
That was only 17 years ago that Cruyff won his fourth. Not really a big wait for a 3 in a row, especially with the rise of Deportivo and Valencia at the turn of the century.
Google doesn't really provide context, unless you dig a bit deeper on it.
Or, you could just be like me and know quite a bit about Spanish football.
I was referring to Google Central, Ross.
Ah, my apologies. I think ross knows more than I originally gave him credit for. Still doesn't talk any sense though.
Still think he is a WUM.
A WUM would be Liverpool fan that uses Chelsea/Arsenal club crests during the season! now google that bitch :-*
What exactly is he supposed to google?
I'd say he (minder) needs to google the term WUM.
Why?
Quote from: Minder on May 15, 2011, 09:26:46 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 15, 2011, 09:19:58 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 15, 2011, 09:17:48 PM
Quote from: ross4life on May 11, 2011, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:36:49 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:32:39 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:31:12 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:24:05 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 11, 2011, 09:19:40 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2011, 09:16:25 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 11, 2011, 09:05:49 PM
3 in a row not since that days of Johan Cruyff.
That was only 17 years ago that Cruyff won his fourth. Not really a big wait for a 3 in a row, especially with the rise of Deportivo and Valencia at the turn of the century.
Google doesn't really provide context, unless you dig a bit deeper on it.
Or, you could just be like me and know quite a bit about Spanish football.
I was referring to Google Central, Ross.
Ah, my apologies. I think ross knows more than I originally gave him credit for. Still doesn't talk any sense though.
Still think he is a WUM.
A WUM would be Liverpool fan that uses Chelsea/Arsenal club crests during the season! now google that bitch :-*
What exactly is he supposed to google?
I'd say he (minder) needs to google the term WUM.
Why?
Why not! what harm would it do? you may discover your not one of a kind??
Real Madrid put 8 past Almería tonight, Ronaldo gets 2 which takes him to a record-breaking 40 goals in one season :o granted, 11 of them were in the 4 games that came after the league was over, but it's still a hell of a record.
Edit: For anyone who's interested, the relegation battle in La Liga is even tighter than the one in the Premiership. All the games are being played now.
Quote from: paco on May 21, 2011, 09:04:23 PM
Real Madrid put 8 past Almería tonight, Ronaldo gets 2 which takes him to a record-breaking 40 goals in one season :o granted, 11 of them were in the 4 games that came after the league was over, but it's still a hell of a record.
Edit: For anyone who's interested, the relegation battle in La Liga is even tighter than the one in the Premiership. All the games are being played now.
He's not a great team player and his attitude stinks at times but what a player Ronaldo is.
Maybe he is unfortunate to play in the same era as Messi and his international career hasn't been amazing but I don't think Ronaldo's feats over the last 4/5 seasons have got the credit they deserve.
Who was the last player in Italy, Germany or England to score 40 league goals in a season? I know Dixie Dean has the record of 60 in England but I don't remember anyone scoring more than 35.
Deportivo relegated! Not that long ago they were Champion's League regulars, got to the semi finals as recently as 2004 but their decline over the past few years has been hard to believe.
Zaragoza win, Getafe draw, Depor can't get a draw at home v an already guaranteed 3rd place Valencia... Same excitement around half five / six tomorrow??
Quote from: Orangemac on May 21, 2011, 10:42:35 PM
Quote from: paco on May 21, 2011, 09:04:23 PM
Real Madrid put 8 past Almería tonight, Ronaldo gets 2 which takes him to a record-breaking 40 goals in one season :o granted, 11 of them were in the 4 games that came after the league was over, but it's still a hell of a record.
Edit: For anyone who's interested, the relegation battle in La Liga is even tighter than the one in the Premiership. All the games are being played now.
He's not a great team player and his attitude stinks at times but what a player Ronaldo is.
Maybe he is unfortunate to play in the same era as Messi and his international career hasn't been amazing but I don't think Ronaldo's feats over the last 4/5 seasons have got the credit they deserve.
Who was the last player in Italy, Germany or England to score 40 league goals in a season? I know Dixie Dean has the record of 60 in England but I don't remember anyone scoring more than 35.
I'd say Alan Shearer got close to 35 league goals in a season, Ronaldo has taken to the La liga like a duck to water! he's arguable finding it easier than the PL.
Big fall from grace for Deportivo however not surprising when you see all the cash is with the big two.
I agree with you on the distribution of the income, it's ridiculous but you can't really use it as an excuse for relegation. Look at how successful Levante have been in the second half of the season operating under crippling financial circumstances.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 21, 2011, 11:24:07 PM
Quote from: Orangemac on May 21, 2011, 10:42:35 PM
Quote from: paco on May 21, 2011, 09:04:23 PM
Real Madrid put 8 past Almería tonight, Ronaldo gets 2 which takes him to a record-breaking 40 goals in one season :o granted, 11 of them were in the 4 games that came after the league was over, but it's still a hell of a record.
Edit: For anyone who's interested, the relegation battle in La Liga is even tighter than the one in the Premiership. All the games are being played now.
He's not a great team player and his attitude stinks at times but what a player Ronaldo is.
Maybe he is unfortunate to play in the same era as Messi and his international career hasn't been amazing but I don't think Ronaldo's feats over the last 4/5 seasons have got the credit they deserve.
Who was the last player in Italy, Germany or England to score 40 league goals in a season? I know Dixie Dean has the record of 60 in England but I don't remember anyone scoring more than 35.
I'd say Alan Shearer got close to 35 league goals in a season, Ronaldo has taken to the La liga like a duck to water! he's arguable finding it easier than the PL.
Big fall from grace for Deportivo however not surprising when you see all the cash is with the big two.
Shearer and Ronaldo hold the record in a 38 game season with 31 goals each. Only of course referring to the period since Sky invented English football
Quote from: paco on May 21, 2011, 11:30:16 PM
I agree with you on the distribution of the income, it's ridiculous but you can't really use it as an excuse for relegation. Look at how successful Levante have been in the second half of the season operating under crippling financial circumstances.
Was it two or three years ago, that Zaragoza invested more in their team than ever before, and won relegation?
Wanted Deportivo to stay up and the islanders to sink
Reports that Marcelo Bielsa is going to be appointed Bilbao manager. The president who promised Bielsa has won the elections. Would be a brilliant move for Bilbao imo.
Couple of interesting fixtures on the first weekend. Will be great to see Real Betis and Sevilla in the Andalucian derby, Barcelona start the season away to big-spending Malaga, who, apparently, are now favourites to sign Javier Pastore from Palermo for £40m!
Twitter rumours that Malaga have bid €35m for Sneijder.
Looking forward to watching Malaga. A lot of class signings. Another team that will be capable of challenging for the Champions league places. Even saw them linked with Tevez ;D
Where did Malaga get all this money?
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 07, 2011, 10:55:06 PM
Where did Malaga get all this money?
Same place Man City got it