Kildare v Mayo AI Qualifier Round 3

Started by Dinny Breen, June 25, 2018, 09:32:04 AM

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It's amazing how time & time again certain journalists always argue in favor of the #GAA stance on issues...if u were of a suspicious mind u might nearly think they are being told what 2 write....🤔


You're dead right, Moylsie.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Jinxy

Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 11:54:05 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 11:46:17 AM
For the first 10 minutes or so, this will be some game to be at.
I'm expecting the most obnoxious and outspoken Kildare fans from the nineties & noughties to resurface for this.  ;D



I will be there....

Sean Brady is definitely goin in to this.  ;D
If you were any use you'd be playing.

tc_manchester

Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 27, 2018, 10:28:24 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 10:07:02 AM
Quote from: screenexile on June 27, 2018, 09:48:14 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 09:30:21 AM
If you take the emotion out of it, hard to do I accept, the GAA decided Newbridge could not host the game on health and safety grounds, with an all ticket capacity of C.8,000. Mayo take somewhere in the region of 10,000 fans with them which means that 60% of their fans can't be accommodated.The potential for a sizeable number to turn up with out tickets is there. Kildare were asked to nominate an alternative venue, as Cavan did with Brewster Park but like the spoilt brat refused to do so. Irrespective of TV rights county teams would be nowhere without the fans and the GAA is right to try and ensure as many as possible see the game. If Kildare had drawn Clare there wouldn't have been an issue but Mayo travel in numbers. at this stage of the qualifiers I don't think the luck of the draw should determine where a game is played, in my opinion. Any GAA player should feel privileged to get to play in Croke Park and as top billing as well in front of Tyrone/Cavan!

No . . . that is all bullshit!

This sentiment of "ah sure the lads love a day out in Croke Park" is bullshit. Kildare have played in Croke Park plenty of times. Research has shown that playing a match at home is worth a 4 point advantage to the home team. #

With the professionalism going on in todays game why would you be looking for the extra 5% from your diet/S&C/tactics etc. only to throw away a genuine advantage to your team when presented just because you get a day out in Croke Park?

Kildare have to hold firm and the GAA need to come up with solution. There is no god given right that Mayo fans are allowed tickets to the game if the capacity doesn't allow it!
Nice argument...bullshit! Of course fans are important and not just Mayo fans, all fans and they spend money travelling, on season tickets, Supporters Clubs etc and deserve the chance to be there. The GAA is bigger than county players on that I'm sure we can all agree.

If fans are so important then are Kildare fans not entitled to go to a game in our own county? I've travelled to grounds outside our own county for our last three games. I travelled to Mayo for a third round qualifier two years ago for a 7 o'clock throw in when Mayo were drawn at home. It was outlined before the draw that the first county drawn out were entitled to a home game unless the fixture was Div 1/Div 2 vs Div 3/Div 4. That's not the case here.

Kildare were drawn out first.
The ground can comfortably cater for the numbers of those entitled to a ticket (as it did in the league when the same number of season ticket holders existed).
This game should be in Newbridge.
The GAA thought Kildare would just piss and moan about going to Croke Park but ultimately relent. They were wrong and now they're up shit creek without a paddle.
Well - i live in Newbridge and was going to bring 5 kids to see Kildare play - I might as well go and reserve a table in Con Cummins and watch it there with the kids

Crete Boom

Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 27, 2018, 12:00:27 PM
When the dust settles on this and people reflect in the cold light of day, I'm sure someone will ask the question 'why, when you look at most other County grounds and the facilities that are available, is Newbridge such a shit hole, why has it been allowed to get into this state, what plans have Kildare got to improve it and where will they go to for the money'

The lodged a planning application already according to this, http://kildaregaa.ie/st-conleths-park-re-development-project-kildare-2020-vision/.
Plans for the stadium look good to me.

bennydorano

Will it still be on Sky? I'd say probably not, so people will be pissed off at not being able to see it. Be interesting to see

Taylor

Quote from: tc_manchester on June 27, 2018, 12:06:42 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 27, 2018, 10:28:24 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 10:07:02 AM
Quote from: screenexile on June 27, 2018, 09:48:14 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 09:30:21 AM
If you take the emotion out of it, hard to do I accept, the GAA decided Newbridge could not host the game on health and safety grounds, with an all ticket capacity of C.8,000. Mayo take somewhere in the region of 10,000 fans with them which means that 60% of their fans can't be accommodated.The potential for a sizeable number to turn up with out tickets is there. Kildare were asked to nominate an alternative venue, as Cavan did with Brewster Park but like the spoilt brat refused to do so. Irrespective of TV rights county teams would be nowhere without the fans and the GAA is right to try and ensure as many as possible see the game. If Kildare had drawn Clare there wouldn't have been an issue but Mayo travel in numbers. at this stage of the qualifiers I don't think the luck of the draw should determine where a game is played, in my opinion. Any GAA player should feel privileged to get to play in Croke Park and as top billing as well in front of Tyrone/Cavan!

No . . . that is all bullshit!

This sentiment of "ah sure the lads love a day out in Croke Park" is bullshit. Kildare have played in Croke Park plenty of times. Research has shown that playing a match at home is worth a 4 point advantage to the home team. #

With the professionalism going on in todays game why would you be looking for the extra 5% from your diet/S&C/tactics etc. only to throw away a genuine advantage to your team when presented just because you get a day out in Croke Park?

Kildare have to hold firm and the GAA need to come up with solution. There is no god given right that Mayo fans are allowed tickets to the game if the capacity doesn't allow it!
Nice argument...bullshit! Of course fans are important and not just Mayo fans, all fans and they spend money travelling, on season tickets, Supporters Clubs etc and deserve the chance to be there. The GAA is bigger than county players on that I'm sure we can all agree.

If fans are so important then are Kildare fans not entitled to go to a game in our own county? I've travelled to grounds outside our own county for our last three games. I travelled to Mayo for a third round qualifier two years ago for a 7 o'clock throw in when Mayo were drawn at home. It was outlined before the draw that the first county drawn out were entitled to a home game unless the fixture was Div 1/Div 2 vs Div 3/Div 4. That's not the case here.

Kildare were drawn out first.
The ground can comfortably cater for the numbers of those entitled to a ticket (as it did in the league when the same number of season ticket holders existed).
This game should be in Newbridge.
The GAA thought Kildare would just piss and moan about going to Croke Park but ultimately relent. They were wrong and now they're up shit creek without a paddle.
Well - i live in Newbridge and was going to bring 5 kids to see Kildare play - I might as well go and reserve a table in Con Cummins and watch it there with the kids

Am sure you have had plenty and will have plenty of opportunities to watch them in the future in that case.

Not everyone will get a ticket to every game. Thats the way of the world and not just the GAA

AZOffaly

Quote from: bennydorano on June 27, 2018, 12:09:32 PM
Will it still be on Sky? I'd say probably not, so people will be pissed off at not being able to see it. Be interesting to see

I'd imagine it will be on Sky. No bother to them to send 2 OB units. Barring another game is moved into Croker, they have 2 slots to fill so they'll surely toddle down the M7 as well.

Dinny Breen

Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 27, 2018, 12:00:27 PM
When the dust settles on this and people reflect in the cold light of day, I'm sure someone will ask the question 'why, when you look at most other County grounds and the facilities that are available, is Newbridge such a shit hole, why has it been allowed to get into this state, what plans have Kildare got to improve it and where will they go to for the money'

That is all in place. It's going through the planning stage, back and forth currently between KCB and KCC.

It will be a 12500 capacity when complete. It doesn't need to be any bigger and would comfortable host any Leinster Championship game.



https://www.kildarenow.com/gaa/kildare-gaa-announce-plans-for-the-redevelopment-of-st-conleths-park-in-newbridge/118357
#newbridgeornowhere

rosnarun

make no mistake the only losers here are the fans
nobody in theior right minds would choose to go to newbridge.
people in their hatred of all things official lost sight of the fact and smelt blood without think
the whole thing was moronic and only the incompetence and cowardice of HQ let this happen
If you make yourself understood, you're always speaking well. Moliere

GalwayBayBoy

Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 11:46:17 AM
For the first 10 minutes or so, this will be some game to be at.
I'm expecting the most obnoxious and outspoken Kildare fans from the nineties & noughties to resurface for this.  ;D

Sean Brady will surely be there.

toby47

Quote from: Taylor on June 27, 2018, 12:10:10 PM
Quote from: tc_manchester on June 27, 2018, 12:06:42 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 27, 2018, 10:28:24 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 10:07:02 AM
Quote from: screenexile on June 27, 2018, 09:48:14 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 09:30:21 AM
If you take the emotion out of it, hard to do I accept, the GAA decided Newbridge could not host the game on health and safety grounds, with an all ticket capacity of C.8,000. Mayo take somewhere in the region of 10,000 fans with them which means that 60% of their fans can't be accommodated.The potential for a sizeable number to turn up with out tickets is there. Kildare were asked to nominate an alternative venue, as Cavan did with Brewster Park but like the spoilt brat refused to do so. Irrespective of TV rights county teams would be nowhere without the fans and the GAA is right to try and ensure as many as possible see the game. If Kildare had drawn Clare there wouldn't have been an issue but Mayo travel in numbers. at this stage of the qualifiers I don't think the luck of the draw should determine where a game is played, in my opinion. Any GAA player should feel privileged to get to play in Croke Park and as top billing as well in front of Tyrone/Cavan!

No . . . that is all bullshit!

This sentiment of "ah sure the lads love a day out in Croke Park" is bullshit. Kildare have played in Croke Park plenty of times. Research has shown that playing a match at home is worth a 4 point advantage to the home team. #

With the professionalism going on in todays game why would you be looking for the extra 5% from your diet/S&C/tactics etc. only to throw away a genuine advantage to your team when presented just because you get a day out in Croke Park?

Kildare have to hold firm and the GAA need to come up with solution. There is no god given right that Mayo fans are allowed tickets to the game if the capacity doesn't allow it!
Nice argument...bullshit! Of course fans are important and not just Mayo fans, all fans and they spend money travelling, on season tickets, Supporters Clubs etc and deserve the chance to be there. The GAA is bigger than county players on that I'm sure we can all agree.

If fans are so important then are Kildare fans not entitled to go to a game in our own county? I've travelled to grounds outside our own county for our last three games. I travelled to Mayo for a third round qualifier two years ago for a 7 o'clock throw in when Mayo were drawn at home. It was outlined before the draw that the first county drawn out were entitled to a home game unless the fixture was Div 1/Div 2 vs Div 3/Div 4. That's not the case here.

Kildare were drawn out first.
The ground can comfortably cater for the numbers of those entitled to a ticket (as it did in the league when the same number of season ticket holders existed).
This game should be in Newbridge.
The GAA thought Kildare would just piss and moan about going to Croke Park but ultimately relent. They were wrong and now they're up shit creek without a paddle.
Well - i live in Newbridge and was going to bring 5 kids to see Kildare play - I might as well go and reserve a table in Con Cummins and watch it there with the kids

Am sure you have had plenty and will have plenty of opportunities to watch them in the future in that case.

Not everyone will get a ticket to every game. Thats the way of the world and not just the GAA

Totally Agree. Wouldn't bring a home Premiership match for Arsenal Vs Man United from The Emirates Stadium to Wembley just so a few more thousand people could go.

Brilliant by Kildare, and the sensible decision by the GAA (even though they had no other choice)

sligoman2

Quote from: seafoid on June 27, 2018, 10:16:21 AM
It was in the year of eighteen, in the lovely month of Jan
The Lily whites were promoted and the excitement it was grand
But seven games on the trot they were f**king traumatic ,
and relegation when it came sure it was automatic

The championship start was not ideal, Kildare fragile you know
And who came out of the draw itself but WTF Carlow
And Horse Lawlor he did get the ball and had loads of time to choose
And once he set his sights on goal sure the Lilies could only lose

And KCR they lost the plot, sure the Carlow boys went mad
While on KFM across the county the mood was very sad
The rasta midgets had had their day, their victory was tremenjus
But the Flourbags had to lick their wounds and start praying the Angelus.

This was worse than an embarrassment it was biblical in scope
And on the board Kuwabate and Donnellys had surrendered all their hope
O'Neill was f**king hopeless and his tactics were so poor
What was he doing managing the Lilies, the useless clueless hoor

And outsiders they did shake the head and ask all the questions
All that money in Kildare and the team is only messin'
And Newbridge it is still a kip with no corporate suites to offer
And Meath are just as bad and the 2 counties have nothing in the coffer

But life is about soldiering on and the qualifiers offer redemption
Even if the Lilies were only looking at a losing series extension
At least it's not the Leinster championship with the Dubs , that awful load
You can win a few matches with a bit of luck and go further down the road

In Derry the opposition was hard enough to beat
The backs and forwards had to work together in the heat
This was a novelty after all the losing- it was hard to stay on task
But they kept the engine running and that's all anyone could ever ask.

Next up the Larries in their home place- the fans had to shell out
They had beaten Meath you see and were in with a good shout
But the flourbags got the oul mojo going it was a decent oul feeling
An open road and enough horsepower to leave the Larries reeling

So now onto Round 3 and hopefully deeper into July
A draw like Clare at home it would be surely worth a try
A three game winning streak is better than playing cat
And a Saturday evening in the town with pints you could well get used to that

Ah well some of the lads and lassies  had never been arsed watching the Lilies at home before.
It would be the first time Geraldine would have seen the forwards score.
And before they heard the draw, they knew they'd play the same
So they all agreed that Newbridge was the place to play the game.

But the hoors above in Dublin they had a fella called McGill
And he f**king ordered the Lilies to play in Dublin
The county it was outraged  ONeill would take no crap
And Kildare defied the HQ and all attempts at a bitchslap.

So CP rolled out some big guns and the biggest , Health and Safety
They wanted all the Kildare fans to be drinking in the Big Tree
But Kildare decided otherwise, they had the gander going
And Croke Park ran out of ammunition and the public started groaning

And the Super 8s are the golden goose and the timing is essential
But if Kildare go down the legal route delays will be unmissable
The CLG head are in a bind they don't know what to do
The clock is ticking as we speak this is a huge issue

So Kildare have had a change of fate even if they lose on Sat
Because  the energy unleashed you cannot defend against that
And CLG, the useless hoors, they really need some insight
You cannot force the Lilies into something  that is shite.


So Horse Lawlor's goal was not the end, it was not the end at all
The Kildare lads got time to fight both on and off the ball
They discovered balls they had all over the county of Kildare
And they united around a great oul line- Newbridge or nowhere

Brilliant Seafoid...
I used to be indecisive but now I'm not too sure.

Dinny Breen

Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
make no mistake the only losers here are the fans
nobody in theior right minds would choose to go to newbridge.
people in their hatred of all things official lost sight of the fact and smelt blood without think
the whole thing was moronic and only the incompetence and cowardice of HQ let this happen

Dry your tears. A bandwagon shouldn't dictate where a game is played.
#newbridgeornowhere

Mayo4Sam

So what happens to us season ticket holders?

Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
make no mistake the only losers here are the fans
nobody in theior right minds would choose to go to newbridge.
people in their hatred of all things official lost sight of the fact and smelt blood without think
the whole thing was moronic and only the incompetence and cowardice of HQ let this happen

Dry your tears. A bandwagon shouldn't dictate where a game is played.


That's exactly what's happened, a bandwagon has decided where it's played!
Excuse me for talking while you're trying to interrupt me

Dougal Maguire

Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 27, 2018, 12:00:27 PM
When the dust settles on this and people reflect in the cold light of day, I'm sure someone will ask the question 'why, when you look at most other County grounds and the facilities that are available, is Newbridge such a shit hole, why has it been allowed to get into this state, what plans have Kildare got to improve it and where will they go to for the money'

That is all in place. It's going through the planning stage, back and forth currently between KCB and KCC.

It will be a 12500 capacity when complete. It doesn't need to be any bigger and would comfortable host any Leinster Championship game.



https://www.kildarenow.com/gaa/kildare-gaa-announce-plans-for-the-redevelopment-of-st-conleths-park-in-newbridge/118357
These plans were announced in 2016 and still nothing has happened. I think you deserve everything you get in fairness and can reflect on it all over the months ahead when you're sent packing this weekend
Careful now