Kildare v Mayo AI Qualifier Round 3

Started by Dinny Breen, June 25, 2018, 09:32:04 AM

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Jinxy

Regarding ticket sales, the sensible thing would be to shut everything down today and tomorrow in order to deal with refunds (I have my doubts about Cavan/Tyrone staying in CP) and avoid confusion/overlap.
Then put the general tickets on sale on Friday morning.
There's only going to be 3000/4000 of them anyway.
Mind you, the whole system could collapse in a heap.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

bennydorano

Quote from: AZOffaly on June 27, 2018, 12:11:14 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 27, 2018, 12:09:32 PM
Will it still be on Sky? I'd say probably not, so people will be pissed off at not being able to see it. Be interesting to see

I'd imagine it will be on Sky. No bother to them to send 2 OB units. Barring another game is moved into Croker, they have 2 slots to fill so they'll surely toddle down the M7 as well.
I was thinking more of 'teaching us a lesson' rather than logistics tbh.

screenexile

Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 12:24:57 PM
Regarding ticket sales, the sensible thing would be to shut everything down today and tomorrow in order to deal with refunds (I have my doubts about Cavan/Tyrone staying in CP) and avoid confusion/overlap.
Then put the general tickets on sale on Friday morning.
There's only going to be 3000/4000 of them anyway.
Mind you, the whole system could collapse in a heap.

Sounds a lot like the Cavan and Tyrone match will be at Brewster!

tc_manchester

Quote from: toby47 on June 27, 2018, 12:14:30 PM
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Quote from: Applesisapples on June 27, 2018, 09:30:21 AM
If you take the emotion out of it, hard to do I accept, the GAA decided Newbridge could not host the game on health and safety grounds, with an all ticket capacity of C.8,000. Mayo take somewhere in the region of 10,000 fans with them which means that 60% of their fans can't be accommodated.The potential for a sizeable number to turn up with out tickets is there. Kildare were asked to nominate an alternative venue, as Cavan did with Brewster Park but like the spoilt brat refused to do so. Irrespective of TV rights county teams would be nowhere without the fans and the GAA is right to try and ensure as many as possible see the game. If Kildare had drawn Clare there wouldn't have been an issue but Mayo travel in numbers. at this stage of the qualifiers I don't think the luck of the draw should determine where a game is played, in my opinion. Any GAA player should feel privileged to get to play in Croke Park and as top billing as well in front of Tyrone/Cavan!

No . . . that is all bullshit!

This sentiment of "ah sure the lads love a day out in Croke Park" is bullshit. Kildare have played in Croke Park plenty of times. Research has shown that playing a match at home is worth a 4 point advantage to the home team. #

With the professionalism going on in todays game why would you be looking for the extra 5% from your diet/S&C/tactics etc. only to throw away a genuine advantage to your team when presented just because you get a day out in Croke Park?

Kildare have to hold firm and the GAA need to come up with solution. There is no god given right that Mayo fans are allowed tickets to the game if the capacity doesn't allow it!
Nice argument...bullshit! Of course fans are important and not just Mayo fans, all fans and they spend money travelling, on season tickets, Supporters Clubs etc and deserve the chance to be there. The GAA is bigger than county players on that I'm sure we can all agree.

If fans are so important then are Kildare fans not entitled to go to a game in our own county? I've travelled to grounds outside our own county for our last three games. I travelled to Mayo for a third round qualifier two years ago for a 7 o'clock throw in when Mayo were drawn at home. It was outlined before the draw that the first county drawn out were entitled to a home game unless the fixture was Div 1/Div 2 vs Div 3/Div 4. That's not the case here.

Kildare were drawn out first.
The ground can comfortably cater for the numbers of those entitled to a ticket (as it did in the league when the same number of season ticket holders existed).
This game should be in Newbridge.
The GAA thought Kildare would just piss and moan about going to Croke Park but ultimately relent. They were wrong and now they're up shit creek without a paddle.
Well - i live in Newbridge and was going to bring 5 kids to see Kildare play - I might as well go and reserve a table in Con Cummins and watch it there with the kids

Am sure you have had plenty and will have plenty of opportunities to watch them in the future in that case.

Not everyone will get a ticket to every game. Thats the way of the world and not just the GAA

Totally Agree. Wouldn't bring a home Premiership match for Arsenal Vs Man United from The Emirates Stadium to Wembley just so a few more thousand people could go.

Brilliant by Kildare, and the sensible decision by the GAA (even though they had no other choice)
The comparison should be between Wimbledon FCs old ground and Wembley


Interesting to see how the ticket allocation goes - Will Mayo's season tickets allocation be fully filled or will it be 3000 on a first come first served basis. Also wait for the reports of those who went to Derry and Longford and who cannot now get tickets but that will be alright since Kildare will  be playing a match at home where their fans will be in the minority.

Dinny Breen

Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 27, 2018, 12:21:17 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 27, 2018, 12:00:27 PM
When the dust settles on this and people reflect in the cold light of day, I'm sure someone will ask the question 'why, when you look at most other County grounds and the facilities that are available, is Newbridge such a shit hole, why has it been allowed to get into this state, what plans have Kildare got to improve it and where will they go to for the money'

That is all in place. It's going through the planning stage, back and forth currently between KCB and KCC.

It will be a 12500 capacity when complete. It doesn't need to be any bigger and would comfortable host any Leinster Championship game.



https://www.kildarenow.com/gaa/kildare-gaa-announce-plans-for-the-redevelopment-of-st-conleths-park-in-newbridge/118357
These plans were announced in 2016 and still nothing has happened. I think you deserve everything you get in fairness and can reflect on it all over the months ahead when you're sent packing this weekend

Thanks Ned.
#newbridgeornowhere

rosnarun

Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 27, 2018, 12:20:22 PM
So what happens to us season ticket holders?

Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
make no mistake the only losers here are the fans
nobody in theior right minds would choose to go to newbridge.
people in their hatred of all things official lost sight of the fact and smelt blood without think
the whole thing was moronic and only the incompetence and cowardice of HQ let this happen

Dry your tears. A bandwagon shouldn't dictate where a game is played.


That's exactly what's happened, a bandwagon has decided where it's played!
AN UNTHINKING MOB LET BY SOME OF THE MOST virulent anti GAA journalists in the country and people fell for it .
what would have bee a great double header in croke park will now be a poorly  attended croke park and a sparsely populated newbridge with mos fans locked out  .
well done a stunning victory
If you make yourself understood, you're always speaking well. Moliere

Jinxy

Quote from: screenexile on June 27, 2018, 12:28:59 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 27, 2018, 12:24:57 PM
Regarding ticket sales, the sensible thing would be to shut everything down today and tomorrow in order to deal with refunds (I have my doubts about Cavan/Tyrone staying in CP) and avoid confusion/overlap.
Then put the general tickets on sale on Friday morning.
There's only going to be 3000/4000 of them anyway.
Mind you, the whole system could collapse in a heap.

Sounds a lot like the Cavan and Tyrone match will be at Brewster!

Hopefully.
It would be seriously depressing watching them in Croke Park.
It would be marginally less depressing watching them in Brewster Park.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Stall the Bailer

#1012
Will there be resignations at Croke Park over this? They either lied about health and safety or are putting  thousands of lives at risk. Neither shows that they are capable of their roles.

On the paid employees in Croke Park, who are they accountable to. Im guessing those on the CCCC are elected and can be replaced or a motion put through to remove them, but what about the others who are paid employees. Who disciplines them when they step out of line? Bringing the GAA into disrupt.

P.S. Well done Kildare, held your nerve well.

Owenmoresider

Quote from: Stall the Bailer on June 27, 2018, 12:34:14 PM
Will there be resignations at Croke Park over this? They either lied about health and safety or are putting  thousands of lives at risk. Neither shows that they are capable of their roles.

On the paid employees in Croke Park, who are they accountable to. Im guessing those on the CCCC are elected and can be replaced or a motion out through to remove them, but what the others who are paid employees. Who disciplines them when they step out of line? Bringing the GAA into disrupt.

P.S. Well done Kildare, held your nerve well.
No they're all appointed by the President.

Dinny Breen

Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:33:56 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 27, 2018, 12:20:22 PM
So what happens to us season ticket holders?

Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
make no mistake the only losers here are the fans
nobody in theior right minds would choose to go to newbridge.
people in their hatred of all things official lost sight of the fact and smelt blood without think
the whole thing was moronic and only the incompetence and cowardice of HQ let this happen

Dry your tears. A bandwagon shouldn't dictate where a game is played.


That's exactly what's happened, a bandwagon has decided where it's played!
AN UNTHINKING MOB LET BY SOME OF THE MOST virulent anti GAA journalists in the country and people fell for it .
what would have bee a great double header in croke park will now be a poorly  attended croke park and a sparsely populated newbridge with mos fans locked out  .
well done a stunning victory

#newbridgeornowhere

Owenmoresider

Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:33:56 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 27, 2018, 12:20:22 PM
So what happens to us season ticket holders?

Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
make no mistake the only losers here are the fans
nobody in theior right minds would choose to go to newbridge.
people in their hatred of all things official lost sight of the fact and smelt blood without think
the whole thing was moronic and only the incompetence and cowardice of HQ let this happen

Dry your tears. A bandwagon shouldn't dictate where a game is played.


That's exactly what's happened, a bandwagon has decided where it's played!
AN UNTHINKING MOB LET BY SOME OF THE MOST virulent anti GAA journalists in the country and people fell for it .
what would have bee a great double header in croke park will now be a poorly  attended croke park and a sparsely populated newbridge with mos fans locked out  .
well done a stunning victory
Like who? Being anti-GAA and anti-Croke Park hierarchy are two very different things.

LeoMc

#1016
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:33:56 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on June 27, 2018, 12:20:22 PM
So what happens to us season ticket holders?

Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 12:16:49 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 27, 2018, 12:13:06 PM
make no mistake the only losers here are the fans
nobody in theior right minds would choose to go to newbridge.
people in their hatred of all things official lost sight of the fact and smelt blood without think
the whole thing was moronic and only the incompetence and cowardice of HQ let this happen

Dry your tears. A bandwagon shouldn't dictate where a game is played.


That's exactly what's happened, a bandwagon has decided where it's played!
AN UNTHINKING MOB LET BY SOME OF THE MOST virulent anti GAA journalists in the country and people fell for it .
what would have bee a great double header in croke park will now be a poorly  attended croke park a well filled Brewster park and a sparsely populated newbridge with mos fans locked out  .
well done a stunning victory
If they cant fill Newbridge they have no errand bringing it to Croke park.

sligoman2

Really looking forward to seeing this game now.  I think it will be close and as I said earlier, it might spice up a championship which has been relatively tepid to this point.  Thank god the GAA did the right thing and gave the public what they wanted.  Hopefully they will think twice before making ad hoc decisions and issuing ultimatums. 

Hopefully lesson learned, it's not nothing it's NEWBRIDGE....
I used to be indecisive but now I'm not too sure.

Stall the Bailer

Quote from: Owenmoresider on June 27, 2018, 12:35:48 PM
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on June 27, 2018, 12:34:14 PM
Will there be resignations at Croke Park over this? They either lied about health and safety or are putting  thousands of lives at risk. Neither shows that they are capable of their roles.

On the paid employees in Croke Park, who are they accountable to. Im guessing those on the CCCC are elected and can be replaced or a motion out through to remove them, but what the others who are paid employees. Who disciplines them when they step out of line? Bringing the GAA into disrupt.

P.S. Well done Kildare, held your nerve well.
No they're all appointed by the President.
Thanks Owenmoresider, wasn't sure. Clearly members on CCCC stepped out of line. Be interesting to see what the president does or doesn't do.

Farrandeelin

Well done Kildare. Hopefully Mayo will win now. This has bound to unite all Kildare people and players alike. Very, very difficult for us now considering the injuries.
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