Time to move on.
Time to improve on our awful Championship record v Galway in the Hyde.
We won't want to start slowly here as Galways forwards could wreak havoc.
Would be extremely wary of this game, regardless of the talk about the ref, I thought Roscommon were completely worthy winners last Sunday and the Rossies are long overdue a championship win against Galway in the Hyde.
Would have been pleased enough with how the league went in general for Galway, expanded the squad, defence was good generally, a couple of lads kicked on and Galway at least showed some decent fight in most matches but the non performance up front in the league final took a lot of the gloss of it.
An extraordinarily poor return from scoring attempts in CP that harkened back to previous years where the talk was "Galway have forwards" and yet it was a total lack of composure and clinical finishing in front of the posts that was the real losing of games. A scoring return of only 40% isn't going to cut it, the 70% mark should be the target for putting up real championship winning scores. Walsh was absolute money on the frees last year, barely missed anything that should have been scored, he was back to being loose enough again for the league final, cannot afford that when games are so tight these days and every mistake is punished. Huge amount of Mayo scores were from Galway errors in possession, if that continues into the next game then Rossies will be licking their chops.
Hopefully this upcoming match is better than the absolutely terrible Div 1 league match this year anyway, that might have been the worst IC game I was ever at in my life but I think you could see both sides mirroring each other again, likely be cagey enough.
Burke is very interesting. He might plan for Sean Kelly's runs or target ball into Galway's full forward line.
The only thing on Walsh's frees was the ones he missed were 45's basically. Croker's always been more difficult than provincial grounds to kick from the ground with the grass cut so short. He did kick a monster one from the left witht the hands in the first half, I wouldn't worry anyway given how consistent he's been recently
Joyce likes to tag Enda Smith with a runner anyway, the previous few times its been Kieran Molloy. Has worked excellently well (league game in Pearse stadium) and not so well (D2 final). Will be interesting to see who gets the role, possibly Cathal Sweeney although he might lack the physicality. Dylan McHugh another option.
Paul Rouse said last week McDaid couldve played v Mayo. Thats good news if correct as he's absolutely essential. Sean Kelly on Diarmuid Murtagh is probably set in stone, with Glynn or McGrath (provided they start) following Ben O'Carroll around. I assume Stack won't want to be following Walsh around the field and will tag Finnerty, with Daly on Comer? Would be hoping for a bounceback game from Tierney, who figures to have a size advantage on whomever he's marking. Might be an option to play slightly close to goal, or definitely following in high balls as he did throughout the league
When are tickets on sale for this game does anyone know?
I was at the league game between the 2 earlier in the year, and I would agree it was fairly dreadful stuff. Having said that there was no Walsh, Finnerty, Comer off injured early and I think those 3 could be the difference this time around.
McDaid back would be a big plus too.
Sweeney could be one to follow Enda Smith alright but he would surely be overpowered. Don't think he played when they met in the league but has nailed down a place since then, would imagine Eoghan Kelly would be given a marking job too if he is fit.
I'm expecting cagey enough affair between to well coached teams and whereby the final 10 or 15 minutes of the game comes alive. Midfield battle will be interesting will Galway push up like Mayo did and who got little reward last Sunday. The match ups on Diarmuid Murtagh,Enda Smith,Damien Comer,Shane Walsh will be hugely important.
Galway's good championship record in Hyde Park can't be ignored and three weeks of preparation including week of hard training Portugal should have brought them on a lot from the league final so I'll slide slightly towards Galway to win.
The league game will have no bearing on this game, it was only Burkes 2nd real game in charge and he didn't really know the best set up. I would say Galway beat themselves that day by not going for it when they were 4 pts ahead in a low scoring game.
However Ros are a different kettle of fish since and bar the Monaghan game have showed something different in every game. This will be a real battle of tactics and while Enda stepped up the last day he will be closely marked next Sunday so Ros may not get as much joy in midfield.
This is the real test for Ros, I rate Galway ahead of Mayo by a bit and if we can stay close here and maybe even nick a win it will be real progress.
Looking forward to the game.
Quote from: Manning18 on April 12, 2023, 03:02:25 PM
The only thing on Walsh's frees was the ones he missed were 45's basically. Croker's always been more difficult than provincial grounds to kick from the ground with the grass cut so short. He did kick a monster one from the left witht the hands in the first half, I wouldn't worry anyway given how consistent he's been recently
Joyce likes to tag Enda Smith with a runner anyway, the previous few times its been Kieran Molloy. Has worked excellently well (league game in Pearse stadium) and not so well (D2 final). Will be interesting to see who gets the role, possibly Cathal Sweeney although he might lack the physicality. Dylan McHugh another option.
Paul Rouse said last week McDaid couldve played v Mayo. Thats good news if correct as he's absolutely essential. Sean Kelly on Diarmuid Murtagh is probably set in stone, with Glynn or McGrath (provided they start) following Ben O'Carroll around. I assume Stack won't want to be following Walsh around the field and will tag Finnerty, with Daly on Comer? Would be hoping for a bounceback game from Tierney, who figures to have a size advantage on whomever he's marking. Might be an option to play slightly close to goal, or definitely following in high balls as he did throughout the league
I have a clear memory in my mind of Sweeney attempting to chase down Smith and being left for dead. Can't remember exactly which game it was in.
Mayo never shut him down last week at all. I thought they'd move Durcan onto him but I don't think they did? He is Roscommon key man.
All very quiet on here, should be a hard tight game and how both teams will set up should be interesting.
It won't be anything like the Connacht final last year when Galway sat back and let Ros come on to them get turned over and down the pitch for a handy score. Davy Burke has put those days behind us hopefully and if galway win which I think they will, just about, it will be hard earned, really looking forward to the game.
Another clash if Division 1 teams.
If it's anything like the League match it will be a right dour struggle!
Same outcome will do fine though.
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Galway boss Pádraic Joyce said Kieran Molloy and Seán Mulkerrin are closing in on a return from injury.
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Galway boss Pádraic Joyce said Kieran Molloy and Seán Mulkerrin are closing in on a return from injury.
Galway a serious outfit. Only Kerry and dubs can stop them for me atm
Roscommon the first to name their team.
Conor Carroll - Oranmore/Maree
Conor Hussey - Michael Glaveys
Conor Daly - Padraig Pearses
David Murray - Padraig Pearses
Niall Daly - Padraig Pearses
Brian Stack - St Brigids
Eoin McCormack - St Dominics
Dylan Ruane - Micheal Glaveys
Keith Doyle - St Dominics
Ciarain Murtagh - St Faithleachs
Ciaran Lennon - Clann na nGael
Enda Smith - Boyle
Donie Smith Boyle
Diarmuid Murtagh - St Faithleachs
Ben O'Carroll - St Brigids
Subs
Colm Lavin (Eire Og) Colin Walsh (Oran) Cian Connolly (Roscommon Gaels) Robbie Dolan (St Brigids) Niall Kilroy (Fuerty) Ruaidhri Fallon (St Brigids) Conor Cox (Eire Og) Paul Carey (Padraig Pearses) Cian McKeon (Boyle) Richard Hughes (Roscommon Gaels) Daire Cregg (Boyle)
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Galway boss Pádraic Joyce said Kieran Molloy and Seán Mulkerrin are closing in on a return from injury.
Galway a serious outfit. Only Kerry and dubs can stop them for me atm
+Derry for any top tier discussion.
Fairly big call made at goalkeeper for Sunday by Galway management but starting Ian Burke in the FF line is an even bigger one to be honest, really from left field.
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Surprised that Bernie is in - given that they persisted with Gleeson for the league final.
McDaid on the bench so must not be fully fit.
I'm not too sure what Ian Burke has done to justify inclusion on that team.
Unless Finnerty has a knock it's a very strange call looking in from the outside.
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If that team lines out then you can probably forget about much if not all of what you saw from Galway in the league. I hate the term shadow boxing but that lineup doesn't suggest much else.
Not the first time Joyce has started Ian Burke completely out of left field. Let's hope he's seen something to convince him. I'd have Finnerty in the top 10-15 forwards in the country at the moment, so injury aside it'd be a strange move
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Surprised that Bernie is in - given that they persisted with Gleeson for the league final.
McDaid on the bench so must not be fully fit.
I'm not too sure what Ian Burke has done to justify inclusion on that team.
Unless Finnerty has a knock it's a very strange call looking in from the outside.
I'm confused with it and slightly concerned, generally whatever else was done last year it was whoever was going well that got the start, certainly outfield. I don't think Ian Burke has done anything much in a Galway jersey really since 2018, the little game time seen in the league wasn't anything special to put him above Finnerty (who must not be fully fit) or even the likes of Culhane realistically.
Hopefully he's flying in training and goes well Sunday but it's a head scratcher, Galway need to be at their best to get a result and can't afford to have any players that aren't at it, best of luck to Burke and his clubman in goals of course, would be great to see both of them having solid games.
Quote from: Manning18 on April 20, 2023, 11:01:25 PM
If that team lines out then you can probably forget about much if not all of what you saw from Galway in the league. I hate the term shadow boxing but that lineup doesn't suggest much else.
Not the first time Joyce has started Ian Burke completely out of left field. Let's hope he's seen something to convince him. I'd have Finnerty in the top 10-15 forwards in the country at the moment, so injury aside it'd be a strange move
I'd be very interested to see your list of top 15 forwards if Finnerty is on thr list
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If that team lines out then you can probably forget about much if not all of what you saw from Galway in the league. I hate the term shadow boxing but that lineup doesn't suggest much else.
Not the first time Joyce has started Ian Burke completely out of left field. Let's hope he's seen something to convince him. I'd have Finnerty in the top 10-15 forwards in the country at the moment, so injury aside it'd be a strange move
I'd be very interested to see your list of top 15 forwards if Finnerty is on thr list
Did you see what he was doing in the Sigerson before the league started? He was by far and away the standout player in the competition until he got injured. Besides that he was the top forward in Galway club championship last year, one of the top championships in the country. He looked to have improved significantly from last year coming into the league
11 of that Galway team started the Div 1 league final. Comer was brought on in 30 minutes and Glynn brought on at half time. Unless injured Rob Finnerty I would expect to start in place of Ian Burke.
Is spice boy spending another season at Kilmacud? Must be a tough aul course he's studying.
A couple of interesting picks for sure with Burke being the most surprising inclusion - haven't seen much to warrant it through the league campaign.
A lot more strength in depth for sure this year and very likely that Galway will finish with a "stronger" team than they start - hopefully it will be enough to get is over the line on Sunday evening.
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Kilmacud Crokes still looks weird
Connacht final already set for MacHale Park no matter who reaches it. 1:45pm May 7th.
Very defensive from both sides. Galway have more attacking threat in the final third
I would say Galway had possession for 75% that half.
Could be up by 6-7
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Very defensive from both sides. Galway have more attacking threat in the final third
No score from play in H1 from Ros, only 3 points, unwatchable.
Did Mayo not bother for the first round??
Poor enough game.
Galway playing within themselves so far.
Roscommon look poor to be honest. Not offering anything much going forward.
I could see Glaway switching on for 10 mins in the 2nd half and running away with it.
But then again, last week at half time you'd have thought monaghan were dead and buried but they came back in the 2nd half.
Looking like a routine win for Galway, the more composed side against a error ridden Roscommon team that are already getting frustrated.
We needed to stick one of those goal chances to reflect how that half went, Rossies will come into it at some stage.
What's with Gough not calling the two Galway marks? Doesn't matter if they are not getting bombed into the FF, they are going the requisite distance, being caught and the rule is the rule. I think the advanced mark is disaster of a rule by the way and should be done away with but it's bizarre what he is at.
Hopefully game on now
Ref giving Roscommon nothing.
That miss for the ball across the square that went wide of the post will haunt Roscommon.
Galway goal was one of these things, a rebound is always dangerous. The Rossies could have got the points, but kept going for goals.
Joke giving man of the match to a member of the losing team.
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Joke giving man of the match to a member of the losing team.
If the best player during the match is on the losing team should you not give it to him?
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Galway goal was one of these things, a rebound is always dangerous. The Rossies could have got the points, but kept going for goals.
Roscommon had a decent goal chance themselves before it but slipped in the build up and that Galway goal could easily have been a point instead of goal. Those two moments proved the difference in the end.
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Joke giving man of the match to a member of the losing team.
If the best player during the match is on the losing team should you not give it to him?
I thought after the AI final last year there was a moratorium on this.
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Joke giving man of the match to a member of the losing team.
If the best player during the match is on the losing team should you not give it to him?
I thought after the AI final last year there was a moratorium on this.
So the GAA headquarters or RTE decided this?
Does Sean Cavanagh think he's on the ice planet Hoth?
Cavanan should got it last week.
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Does Sean Cavanagh think he's on the ice planet Hoth?
I think he's joined the Hutch gang
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Quote from: armaghniac on April 23, 2023, 05:39:21 PM
Galway goal was one of these things, a rebound is always dangerous. The Rossies could have got the points, but kept going for goals.
Roscommon had a decent goal chance themselves before it but slipped in the build up and that Galway goal could easily have been a point instead of goal. Those two moments proved the difference in the end.
Galway missed several other goal chances.Swings and roundabouts.
Two very bad MOTM decisions in both games today. Gilligan giving it to his mate Johnson and Fitzmaurice giving it to Murtagh. Neither deserved it.
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Two very bad MOTM decisions in both games today. Gilligan giving it to his mate Johnson and Fitzmaurice giving it to Murtagh. Neither deserved it.
RTE said it was Keegan who gave it to Murtagh. The others all wanted it to go to Comer, but it had been agreed beforehand that Keegan had final say and he wouldn't change his mind and stuck with Murtagh
Quote from: Hound on April 23, 2023, 06:48:38 PM
RTE said it was Keegan who gave it to Murtagh. The others all wanted it to go to Comer, but it had been agreed beforehand that Keegan had final say and he wouldn't change his mind and stuck with Murtagh
Mr GPS tracker up to no good as usual.
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Two very bad MOTM decisions in both games today. Gilligan giving it to his mate Johnson and Fitzmaurice giving it to Murtagh. Neither deserved it.
RTE said it was Keegan who gave it to Murtagh. The others all wanted it to go to Comer, but it had been agreed beforehand that Keegan had final say and he wouldn't change his mind and stuck with Murtagh
Fair enough but I would have thought Comer was an obvious choice. Then you had McManus getting MOTM last week for hitting free kicks over the bar, the analysis is bland enough but at least they should get it right.
This is an exceptional Galway team with strength in depth. Even Mouview agrees. It was always going to be difficult for Roscommon.
Bit of a mixed bag performance today I thought. Roscommon started well but after 10 minutes or so Galway took complete control of the game without looking like pulling away. Limited Roscommon to 3 frees and no scores from play. And the first free they got was given against Cooke very early when both of them were pulling each others jersey.
Got first score of 2nd half to go 5 up and looked in control but the next 10 minutes was pure mad stuff. I actually thought Galway lost their heads a bit. Which shouldn't really be happening at this stage of the team's development. In quick succession Tierney, Conroy and Daly cheaply kicked away possession back to Roscommon under little pressure. I think Roscommon got 1-2 from those turnovers. And were completely energised now. Conroy kicked away another one and they definitely seemed to be losing the head at that stage. Luckily one of the Daly's I think missed his palmed effort at the back post. I'm not sure they would have come back from that. I think it was a Tierney free that settled them down eventually and got them back level. And they regained some control of the game after that. Even though they needed a bit of luck from the ball coming back off the post to Comer.
Comer in fairness was outstanding. Was getting the scores in the first half when it was tight. Got the goal. Got the insurance point. Plus he was back in defence turning ball over, tackling and winning possession. He really is a complete footballer these days. Probably should have buried his goal chance in the first half alright. Midfield was a disappointment . We made no inroads at all on the Roscommon kick out at all. They won 100% of their own kick outs. Carroll was finding Roscommon players drifting into pockets around the 45 and when he went long we weren't winning much breaking ball either. We lost 6 of our own kickouts. Turnovers won us the game really. We had a big advantage in that area and got a huge amount of scores off turnovers.
Fair play to John Maher. That's his 3rd good game in a row now against division 1 sides. Think people presumed he would drop out once McDaid was fit again but he's making it hard to drop him.
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Quote from: armaghniac on April 23, 2023, 05:39:21 PM
Galway goal was one of these things, a rebound is always dangerous. The Rossies could have got the points, but kept going for goals.
Roscommon had a decent goal chance themselves before it but slipped in the build up and that Galway goal could easily have been a point instead of goal. Those two moments proved the difference in the end.
Galway missed several other goal chances.Swings and roundabouts.
That was the main turning point though two moments in a matter of minutes. Had Roscommon gone 4 points up at the time it would be very difficult for Galway to come back. Over the 70 minutes however the best team on the day won, It's 8 years since Galway have lost Connacht semi final a fine record and provincial championship they take very serious nowadays.
Yep Galway got back ahead then and in reality never looked like they'd lose it.
We only played (or were let play) for 6 minutes.
We need to work on quicker transition for the Group games as the slow slow stuff allows good opposition to have shooting areas blocked up like today.
A lot done, a lot to do. Hope the lads have a good night tonight, take a week's break and then come back refreshed and raring to go.
Galway were the better team. They also work very hard. We did well to get back into it. Looked clueless in the 2nd quarter. My God the Hyde was fairly rocking 8 minutes into the second half. Davy has brought the buzz back. Unfortunately to much lateral, back & forth stuff. Galway will be hard bet. Ciaran Murtagh was excellent, worked his socks off to. His brother, Donie & Cox will be disappointed with their contributions. Galway are very difficult to break down, Comer did well, goal was fortunate, such is life. Still, better team won, no complaints.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on April 23, 2023, 07:39:18 PM
Bit of a mixed bag performance today I thought. Roscommon started well but after 10 minutes or so Galway took complete control of the game without looking like pulling away. Limited Roscommon to 3 frees and no scores from play. And the first free they got was given against Cooke very early when both of them were pulling each others jersey.
Got first score of 2nd half to go 5 up and looked in control but the next 10 minutes was pure mad stuff. I actually thought Galway lost their heads a bit. Which shouldn't really be happening at this stage of the team's development. In quick succession Tierney, Conroy and Daly cheaply kicked away possession back to Roscommon under little pressure. I think Roscommon got 1-2 from those turnovers. And were completely energised now. Conroy kicked away another one and they definitely seemed to be losing the head at that stage. Luckily one of the Daly's I think missed his palmed effort at the back post. I'm not sure they would have come back from that. I think it was a Tierney free that settled them down eventually and got them back level. And they regained some control of the game after that. Even though they needed a bit of luck from the ball coming back off the post to Comer.
Comer in fairness was outstanding. Was getting the scores in the first half when it was tight. Got the goal. Got the insurance point. Plus he was back in defence turning ball over, tackling and winning possession. He really is a complete footballer these days. Probably should have buried his goal chance in the first half alright. Midfield was a disappointment . We made no inroads at all on the Roscommon kick out at all. They won 100% of their own kick outs. Carroll was finding Roscommon players drifting into pockets around the 45 and when he went long we weren't winning much breaking ball either. We lost 6 of our own kickouts. Turnovers won us the game really. We had a big advantage in that area and got a huge amount of scores off turnovers.
Fair play to John Maher. That's his 3rd good game in a row now against division 1 sides. Think people presumed he would drop out once McDaid was fit again but he's making it hard to drop him.
For me that was main difference between the sides. Some of those turn overs was Roscommon needlessly giving possession away under no pressure which they didn't do against Mayo and Galway got lots of scores off those turnovers.
The way Galway are defending all year is the biggest improvement. How well they are set defensively now even the very best sides will not score high against them.
Great to see 17,000 at Connacht semi final, whatever about Leinster, Munster the interest in the Connacht championship is a popular as ever.
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Bit of a mixed bag performance today I thought. Roscommon started well but after 10 minutes or so Galway took complete control of the game without looking like pulling away. Limited Roscommon to 3 frees and no scores from play. And the first free they got was given against Cooke very early when both of them were pulling each others jersey.
Got first score of 2nd half to go 5 up and looked in control but the next 10 minutes was pure mad stuff. I actually thought Galway lost their heads a bit. Which shouldn't really be happening at this stage of the team's development. In quick succession Tierney, Conroy and Daly cheaply kicked away possession back to Roscommon under little pressure. I think Roscommon got 1-2 from those turnovers. And were completely energised now. Conroy kicked away another one and they definitely seemed to be losing the head at that stage. Luckily one of the Daly's I think missed his palmed effort at the back post. I'm not sure they would have come back from that. I think it was a Tierney free that settled them down eventually and got them back level. And they regained some control of the game after that. Even though they needed a bit of luck from the ball coming back off the post to Comer.
Comer in fairness was outstanding. Was getting the scores in the first half when it was tight. Got the goal. Got the insurance point. Plus he was back in defence turning ball over, tackling and winning possession. He really is a complete footballer these days. Probably should have buried his goal chance in the first half alright. Midfield was a disappointment . We made no inroads at all on the Roscommon kick out at all. They won 100% of their own kick outs. Carroll was finding Roscommon players drifting into pockets around the 45 and when he went long we weren't winning much breaking ball either. We lost 6 of our own kickouts. Turnovers won us the game really. We had a big advantage in that area and got a huge amount of scores off turnovers.
Fair play to John Maher. That's his 3rd good game in a row now against division 1 sides. Think people presumed he would drop out once McDaid was fit again but he's making it hard to drop him.
For me that was main difference between the sides. Some of those turn overs was Roscommon needlessly giving possession away under no pressure which they didn't do against Mayo and Galway got lots of scores off those turnovers.
The way Galway are defending all year is the biggest improvement. How well they are set defensively now even the very best sides will not score high against them.
Great to see 17,000 at Connacht semi final, whatever about Leinster, Munster the interest in the Connacht championship is a popular as ever.
It was a Connacht final in all but name.
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Bit of a mixed bag performance today I thought. Roscommon started well but after 10 minutes or so Galway took complete control of the game without looking like pulling away. Limited Roscommon to 3 frees and no scores from play. And the first free they got was given against Cooke very early when both of them were pulling each others jersey.
Got first score of 2nd half to go 5 up and looked in control but the next 10 minutes was pure mad stuff. I actually thought Galway lost their heads a bit. Which shouldn't really be happening at this stage of the team's development. In quick succession Tierney, Conroy and Daly cheaply kicked away possession back to Roscommon under little pressure. I think Roscommon got 1-2 from those turnovers. And were completely energised now. Conroy kicked away another one and they definitely seemed to be losing the head at that stage. Luckily one of the Daly's I think missed his palmed effort at the back post. I'm not sure they would have come back from that. I think it was a Tierney free that settled them down eventually and got them back level. And they regained some control of the game after that. Even though they needed a bit of luck from the ball coming back off the post to Comer.
Comer in fairness was outstanding. Was getting the scores in the first half when it was tight. Got the goal. Got the insurance point. Plus he was back in defence turning ball over, tackling and winning possession. He really is a complete footballer these days. Probably should have buried his goal chance in the first half alright. Midfield was a disappointment . We made no inroads at all on the Roscommon kick out at all. They won 100% of their own kick outs. Carroll was finding Roscommon players drifting into pockets around the 45 and when he went long we weren't winning much breaking ball either. We lost 6 of our own kickouts. Turnovers won us the game really. We had a big advantage in that area and got a huge amount of scores off turnovers.
Fair play to John Maher. That's his 3rd good game in a row now against division 1 sides. Think people presumed he would drop out once McDaid was fit again but he's making it hard to drop him.
For me that was main difference between the sides. Some of those turn overs was Roscommon needlessly giving possession away under no pressure which they didn't do against Mayo and Galway got lots of scores off those turnovers.
The way Galway are defending all year is the biggest improvement. How well they are set defensively now even the very best sides will not score high against them.
Great to see 17,000 at Connacht semi final, whatever about Leinster, Munster the interest in the Connacht championship is a popular as ever.
It was a Connacht final in all but name.
Connacht final will have a decent crowd in Castlebar also as did the match there two weeks ago.
How many do we reckon will attend the home group games for Galway, Roscommon and Mayo in the All-Ireland series?
Depends on who they are playing and what crowd they will bring, if Galway win Connacht final you could have Mayo going to Salthill for first group match, that would bring a sizable crowd you'd imagine.
Galway won 10 out of 39 kickouts but had 26 attempts compared to Roscommon's 18, shows stats aren't everything but Galway won't be winning any All Ireland unless the kickouts improve.
As been covered a shocking 5 minutes from Galway, think every score for Roscommon during the period come from really poor kick passes. I'm sure once they watch the video of the game they'll be disappointed they didn't score around 2-16, they were excellent goal chances for Comer & Kelly who are both normally excellent in front of goal. On a positive note Galway responded very well to going behind and were back 5 points clear within about 10 minutes.
That was a brilliantly worked goal from Roscommon but not sure how their tallest player from himself isolated on Galway's smallest player but even then Sweeney has to understand where the danger is and not vacate the space for an easy goal for Murtagh; Apart from that Sweeney & McGrath were excellent, looked very comfortable at this level.
Walsh's shooting was poor, must have had 3 or 4 wides from play and Conroy wasn't great either. Ian Burke did very well, clearly he was going well in training but you can see why he was picked against a team which is very well organised defensively.
Maher again was excellent with 2 points from play as well as keeping Enda Smith quiet, he's been a huge bonus for Galway. McHugh too had another great game whilst Comer was superb.
That Maher buck impressed me alright....unfortunately.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 24, 2023, 09:07:24 AM
Galway won 10 out of 39 kickouts but had 26 attempts compared to Roscommon's 18, shows stats aren't everything but Galway won't be winning any All Ireland unless the kickouts improve.
As been covered a shocking 5 minutes from Galway, think every score for Roscommon during the period come from really poor kick passes. I'm sure once they watch the video of the game they'll be disappointed they didn't score around 2-16, they were excellent goal chances for Comer & Kelly who are both normally excellent in front of goal. On a positive note Galway responded very well to going behind and were back 5 points clear within about 10 minutes.
That was a brilliantly worked goal from Roscommon but not sure how their tallest player from himself isolated on Galway's smallest player but even then Sweeney has to understand where the danger is and not vacate the space for an easy goal for Murtagh; Apart from that Sweeney & McGrath were excellent, looked very comfortable at this level.
Walsh's shooting was poor, must have had 3 or 4 wides from play and Conroy wasn't great either. Ian Burke did very well, clearly he was going well in training but you can see why he was picked against a team which is very well organised defensively.
Maher again was excellent with 2 points from play as well as keeping Enda Smith quiet, he's been a huge bonus for Galway. McHugh too had another great game whilst Comer was superb.
Whatever the succession plan for Conroy is needs to start kicking into gear I'm afraid. Conroy has had a great last few years since returning from the double leg break and has been an incredible servant but I'd worry over whether he is going to be able to stick the pace at this advanced stage of his career, ground and matches will both be playing quicker and harder from the group stages on. Last year he was on fire in the league and up to the Q final stage in championship before two really tame performances at the real business end, no coincidence that was when we hit CP and it will be hard to reverse that this year. He has had some good to great performances in the odd game this year as well, but the graph looks to be trending only one way.
The problem is that Galway are very reliant on Conroy and Daly for setting up attacks and unlocking defences with kick passes, neither had their greatest games yesterday. Conroy handles the most ball of any Galway player in every match almost, I don't see any lad that can do the same job that's ready to step in unfortunately. I think this is going to be an issue unless Conroy can find one final Indian summer in him.
I think that the people piling in on Gleeson previously should now start to appreciate that it's not all on the goalie and Power is not going to miraculously solve the kick out woes. Power has been tried and not done it before, I sincerely hope he works out this time but even yesterday he got away with a suicide short kick out that ended up in a goal chance Cox should have buried but instead mishandled to the floor. Rossies go 4 points up there and the pitchforks would be out for Bernie today like they have been for Gleeson. Needs to be more effort to have team moves that are nearly guaranteed to secure possession from kick outs as well, it's not all on the number one but I feel like I've been typing that same sentence here for over ten years. I don't think we have any top class goalie available and to be honest I don't think we've had a single one in my lifetime on hard reflection. If there was anything that should be looked at underage it's finding someone who has top class restarts and get him groomed for the Seniors from a distance out.
Maher has been the shock of the year for me, playing way above all possible expectations that could have been had and fair play to the lad for that, to recover an inter county career from the Mayo debacle in 2020 when all would have figured he wouldn't be seen again is incredible to be honest, he is going great and long may it continue. Haven't seen Ian Burke play as well in the maroon for years, not noted as a scorer and he still missed what was a sitter point off his left in the 2nd half so plenty to work on there as well. If he could contribute like he did in general play yesterday and chip in with 2/3 points from play, that would be massive for Galway moving forward.
McGrath's height would worry you against teams further down the line that have sizable FF lines who might be able to target it aerially but what play from him out there yesterday, you won't be left wondering about that ladeen's attitude or willingness to get stuck into the opposition anyway.
Again Galway with only a middling return from shots at the posts around the 50% mark, been keeping a close eye on this and it's regressed from last year, this and the kickouts are the huge challenges to fix for Galway, because defensively I think we are looking fairly solid so far and if we can get most lads playing to their potential at the same time we'd give anyone a game of it at least. It's the most obvious of obvious statements but need to be getting the scores when opportunities are there, Galway are not doing that in the last two matches.
Having been someone long frustrated by David Gough's very unique interpretation of the rulebook, but also impressed with his consistency, I watched back yesterdays game with an open mind.
It wasn't any better on second viewing. The first free against Cooke was both of them at it, but probably 60/40 the forward. A free out if something had to be given. The third free against Ben O'Carroll was an absolute phantom free. If neither of those occur its 7-1 at HT. There's a very high tackle late when Sean Kelly goes through for his goal chance not called, would've resulted in a tap over point. Those are the 3 that stick as changing scores directly but there was a number of strange decisions throughout.
I was cursing Galway as Roscommon seemed to win every breaking ball from kickouts. Usually these go to the hungrier team, however there were plenty of Galway players there on each occasion, the ball just seemed to bounce the wrong way repeatedly. My initial feeling of good fortune from Comer winning the break off the post faded hugely when tallying up all the above
The Cox slip is seen as a huge turning point, however John Daly was comfortably goalside. It was a half chance if he collected the ball but he'd have had to have rounded Daly first. Conor Daly's chance was a gimme when Enda got the ball but Enda's pass over was a poor one, kind of square to Daly rather than in front of him. It was a certain goal if played in front, but as it was, Power wouldve saved had it been slapped on target
Hard to give out about Comer but both he and Walsh were clueless in their running for Comer's goal chance. Comer closed off his own angle and Walsh did nothing to offer himself or drag defenders away. Dublin over the last decade score that goal 95%+ of the time
Lastly on a positive, I was very questioning of the decision to play Ian Burke but it was a masterstroke. They had clearly identified that this game was going to turn into basketball similar to the league game. Outside of Sean Kelly, Burke's movement and hands are the best on the panel. While the modern game has become a struggle for inside forwards, he's equipped to excel far more than most in these types of games. That he looked so sharp having played no intercounty (and indeed much football at all) in 3 years is a credit to him. On the Roscommon side, outside of the obvious with Murtagh, Cian McKeon really was superb in the second half. He was involved in everything and the score from the right while under pressure is one of the scores of the championship so far
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on April 24, 2023, 10:17:21 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 24, 2023, 09:07:24 AM
Galway won 10 out of 39 kickouts but had 26 attempts compared to Roscommon's 18, shows stats aren't everything but Galway won't be winning any All Ireland unless the kickouts improve.
As been covered a shocking 5 minutes from Galway, think every score for Roscommon during the period come from really poor kick passes. I'm sure once they watch the video of the game they'll be disappointed they didn't score around 2-16, they were excellent goal chances for Comer & Kelly who are both normally excellent in front of goal. On a positive note Galway responded very well to going behind and were back 5 points clear within about 10 minutes.
That was a brilliantly worked goal from Roscommon but not sure how their tallest player from himself isolated on Galway's smallest player but even then Sweeney has to understand where the danger is and not vacate the space for an easy goal for Murtagh; Apart from that Sweeney & McGrath were excellent, looked very comfortable at this level.
Walsh's shooting was poor, must have had 3 or 4 wides from play and Conroy wasn't great either. Ian Burke did very well, clearly he was going well in training but you can see why he was picked against a team which is very well organised defensively.
Maher again was excellent with 2 points from play as well as keeping Enda Smith quiet, he's been a huge bonus for Galway. McHugh too had another great game whilst Comer was superb.
Whatever the succession plan for Conroy is needs to start kicking into gear I'm afraid. Conroy has had a great last few years since returning from the double leg break and has been an incredible servant but I'd worry over whether he is going to be able to stick the pace at this advanced stage of his career, ground and matches will both be playing quicker and harder from the group stages on. Last year he was on fire in the league and up to the Q final stage in championship before two really tame performances at the real business end, no coincidence that was when we hit CP and it will be hard to reverse that this year. He has had some good to great performances in the odd game this year as well, but the graph looks to be trending only one way.
The problem is that Galway are very reliant on Conroy and Daly for setting up attacks and unlocking defences with kick passes, neither had their greatest games yesterday. Conroy handles the most ball of any Galway player in every match almost, I don't see any lad that can do the same job that's ready to step in unfortunately. I think this is going to be an issue unless Conroy can find one final Indian summer in him.
Conroy mixed sublime with appalling. His balls for 3 scores, to Heaney, Burke and Tierneys mark were exceptional. The Burke one in particular was outrageous. However, some of his old failings for kicking ball away needlessly is an issue and doesn't tally with games Galway are attempting to control. He had two shockers in the second half. The first in particular at a moment of pressure directly caused Conor Daly's goal chance which shouldve been taken. He really shouldve known better in that moment
However I think back to when our season looked in the doldrums in the second half of the Tyrone game, and Conroy seemingly taking the game over on his own. He's still an absolutely pivotal leadership figure imo and also still the one player id trust to play a ball to unlock a defence (think of the pass to Comer in the league final). That's ahead of John Daly even who himself can't be excused, he's given away a number of stupid balls in the last two games. With two runners now seemingly around him in Maher and McDaid (wherever he fits back in), we can surely find a way to protect his legs on fast pitches.
Incidentally, i'd also have also said Conroy's gets our most touches by far. However I now think its Peter Cooke. The lad is a magnet for the ball in slow play. Whether anything good is coming from that is up for debate
Quote from: Manning18 on April 24, 2023, 10:48:00 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on April 24, 2023, 10:17:21 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 24, 2023, 09:07:24 AM
Galway won 10 out of 39 kickouts but had 26 attempts compared to Roscommon's 18, shows stats aren't everything but Galway won't be winning any All Ireland unless the kickouts improve.
As been covered a shocking 5 minutes from Galway, think every score for Roscommon during the period come from really poor kick passes. I'm sure once they watch the video of the game they'll be disappointed they didn't score around 2-16, they were excellent goal chances for Comer & Kelly who are both normally excellent in front of goal. On a positive note Galway responded very well to going behind and were back 5 points clear within about 10 minutes.
That was a brilliantly worked goal from Roscommon but not sure how their tallest player from himself isolated on Galway's smallest player but even then Sweeney has to understand where the danger is and not vacate the space for an easy goal for Murtagh; Apart from that Sweeney & McGrath were excellent, looked very comfortable at this level.
Walsh's shooting was poor, must have had 3 or 4 wides from play and Conroy wasn't great either. Ian Burke did very well, clearly he was going well in training but you can see why he was picked against a team which is very well organised defensively.
Maher again was excellent with 2 points from play as well as keeping Enda Smith quiet, he's been a huge bonus for Galway. McHugh too had another great game whilst Comer was superb.
Whatever the succession plan for Conroy is needs to start kicking into gear I'm afraid. Conroy has had a great last few years since returning from the double leg break and has been an incredible servant but I'd worry over whether he is going to be able to stick the pace at this advanced stage of his career, ground and matches will both be playing quicker and harder from the group stages on. Last year he was on fire in the league and up to the Q final stage in championship before two really tame performances at the real business end, no coincidence that was when we hit CP and it will be hard to reverse that this year. He has had some good to great performances in the odd game this year as well, but the graph looks to be trending only one way.
The problem is that Galway are very reliant on Conroy and Daly for setting up attacks and unlocking defences with kick passes, neither had their greatest games yesterday. Conroy handles the most ball of any Galway player in every match almost, I don't see any lad that can do the same job that's ready to step in unfortunately. I think this is going to be an issue unless Conroy can find one final Indian summer in him.
Conroy mixed sublime with appalling. His balls for 3 scores, to Heaney, Burke and Tierneys mark were exceptional. The Burke one in particular was outrageous. However, some of his old failings for kicking ball away needlessly is an issue and doesn't tally with games Galway are attempting to control. He had two shockers in the second half. The first in particular at a moment of pressure directly caused Conor Daly's goal chance which shouldve been taken. He really shouldve known better in that moment
However I think back to when our season looked in the doldrums in the second half of the Tyrone game, and Conroy seemingly taking the game over on his own. He's still an absolutely pivotal leadership figure imo and also still the one player id trust to play a ball to unlock a defence (think of the pass to Comer in the league final). That's ahead of John Daly even who himself can't be excused, he's given away a number of stupid balls in the last two games. With two runners now seemingly around him in Maher and McDaid (wherever he fits back in), we can surely find a way to protect his legs on fast pitches.
Incidentally, i'd also have also said Conroy's gets our most touches by far. However I now think its Peter Cooke. The lad is a magnet for the ball in slow play. Whether anything good is coming from that is up for debate
Can't recall too many kickouts Cooke has won since the start of the league, he's lucky enough the likes of Patrick Kelly has never got fit this season. Cooke has done ok but thats about it, he needs to do more to keep his place.
McDaid is far too good a player not too start and there's no way you can leave Maher out either but fitting them all in is going to affect the balance of the side. Expecting a 33/34 year old Conroy to play 70 mins plus in Croker is a lot too ask but at least Maher has given him a decision to make, likes you's I'm very pleasantly surprised at his performances.
I'm only watching the games on TV but did Carroll move out the field for every Galway kickout? Reape did in the league final.
Haven't seen any stats on it but reckon Roscommon have done as well as well on opposition kickouts as anyone.
Any word on Eoghan Kelly's injury? There'll be games when his height and strength will be required, that backline was likely picked on the basis Roscommon aren't particular too tall or dominant aerially in the forwards, Smith drifting in like that on McGrath shouldn't happen. Great ball from O'Carroll a player who really impresses me, Galway did really well to keep him quiet. He was outstanding against Mayo but didn't appear to get his hands on that much ball.
I think Carroll just came out the field on kickouts late when Ros were chasing.
The goal was a combination of things. 3 Galway players were back near Enda including Maher but the ball was superb and Enda got first run on the jump. Then Sweeney lost sight of tracking Murtagh
It's been a year of surprises personnel wise. I'd have offered long odds on McGrath, Maher or Hernon being near a starting team when the year began, and while I knew Eoghan Kelly was going places, and Burke was proven, they still seemed unlikely. Proven players such as Walsh, Finnerty, Cooke and McDaid have all been more peripheral for differing reasons, lack of form or injuries etc. It's the first time in a long time I can remember seriously healthy competition for places. The season might happen a bit fast for the long term injuries (Molloy and Mulkerrin) but in the medium-long term, they'll just add to the mix also
Quote from: Manning18 on April 24, 2023, 10:48:00 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on April 24, 2023, 10:17:21 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 24, 2023, 09:07:24 AM
Galway won 10 out of 39 kickouts but had 26 attempts compared to Roscommon's 18, shows stats aren't everything but Galway won't be winning any All Ireland unless the kickouts improve.
As been covered a shocking 5 minutes from Galway, think every score for Roscommon during the period come from really poor kick passes. I'm sure once they watch the video of the game they'll be disappointed they didn't score around 2-16, they were excellent goal chances for Comer & Kelly who are both normally excellent in front of goal. On a positive note Galway responded very well to going behind and were back 5 points clear within about 10 minutes.
That was a brilliantly worked goal from Roscommon but not sure how their tallest player from himself isolated on Galway's smallest player but even then Sweeney has to understand where the danger is and not vacate the space for an easy goal for Murtagh; Apart from that Sweeney & McGrath were excellent, looked very comfortable at this level.
Walsh's shooting was poor, must have had 3 or 4 wides from play and Conroy wasn't great either. Ian Burke did very well, clearly he was going well in training but you can see why he was picked against a team which is very well organised defensively.
Maher again was excellent with 2 points from play as well as keeping Enda Smith quiet, he's been a huge bonus for Galway. McHugh too had another great game whilst Comer was superb.
Whatever the succession plan for Conroy is needs to start kicking into gear I'm afraid. Conroy has had a great last few years since returning from the double leg break and has been an incredible servant but I'd worry over whether he is going to be able to stick the pace at this advanced stage of his career, ground and matches will both be playing quicker and harder from the group stages on. Last year he was on fire in the league and up to the Q final stage in championship before two really tame performances at the real business end, no coincidence that was when we hit CP and it will be hard to reverse that this year. He has had some good to great performances in the odd game this year as well, but the graph looks to be trending only one way.
The problem is that Galway are very reliant on Conroy and Daly for setting up attacks and unlocking defences with kick passes, neither had their greatest games yesterday. Conroy handles the most ball of any Galway player in every match almost, I don't see any lad that can do the same job that's ready to step in unfortunately. I think this is going to be an issue unless Conroy can find one final Indian summer in him.
Conroy mixed sublime with appalling. His balls for 3 scores, to Heaney, Burke and Tierneys mark were exceptional. The Burke one in particular was outrageous. However, some of his old failings for kicking ball away needlessly is an issue and doesn't tally with games Galway are attempting to control. He had two shockers in the second half. The first in particular at a moment of pressure directly caused Conor Daly's goal chance which shouldve been taken. He really shouldve known better in that moment
However I think back to when our season looked in the doldrums in the second half of the Tyrone game, and Conroy seemingly taking the game over on his own. He's still an absolutely pivotal leadership figure imo and also still the one player id trust to play a ball to unlock a defence (think of the pass to Comer in the league final). That's ahead of John Daly even who himself can't be excused, he's given away a number of stupid balls in the last two games. With two runners now seemingly around him in Maher and McDaid (wherever he fits back in), we can surely find a way to protect his legs on fast pitches.
Incidentally, i'd also have also said Conroy's gets our most touches by far. However I now think its Peter Cooke. The lad is a magnet for the ball in slow play. Whether anything good is coming from that is up for debate
I don't necessarily disagree with any of that, he is hugely important but for me that's the problem in itself as I'm not sure that we can find a way to protect a player as you've outlined in a big match against a serious team, CP just seems to play different and anyone not up to the pitch of it gets left in the dust. We'll miss Conroy when he is gone out of the team and I don't see any natural replacement, which is the worry really.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on April 24, 2023, 11:47:45 AM
Quote from: Manning18 on April 24, 2023, 10:48:00 AM
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on April 24, 2023, 10:17:21 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on April 24, 2023, 09:07:24 AM
Galway won 10 out of 39 kickouts but had 26 attempts compared to Roscommon's 18, shows stats aren't everything but Galway won't be winning any All Ireland unless the kickouts improve.
As been covered a shocking 5 minutes from Galway, think every score for Roscommon during the period come from really poor kick passes. I'm sure once they watch the video of the game they'll be disappointed they didn't score around 2-16, they were excellent goal chances for Comer & Kelly who are both normally excellent in front of goal. On a positive note Galway responded very well to going behind and were back 5 points clear within about 10 minutes.
That was a brilliantly worked goal from Roscommon but not sure how their tallest player from himself isolated on Galway's smallest player but even then Sweeney has to understand where the danger is and not vacate the space for an easy goal for Murtagh; Apart from that Sweeney & McGrath were excellent, looked very comfortable at this level.
Walsh's shooting was poor, must have had 3 or 4 wides from play and Conroy wasn't great either. Ian Burke did very well, clearly he was going well in training but you can see why he was picked against a team which is very well organised defensively.
Maher again was excellent with 2 points from play as well as keeping Enda Smith quiet, he's been a huge bonus for Galway. McHugh too had another great game whilst Comer was superb.
Whatever the succession plan for Conroy is needs to start kicking into gear I'm afraid. Conroy has had a great last few years since returning from the double leg break and has been an incredible servant but I'd worry over whether he is going to be able to stick the pace at this advanced stage of his career, ground and matches will both be playing quicker and harder from the group stages on. Last year he was on fire in the league and up to the Q final stage in championship before two really tame performances at the real business end, no coincidence that was when we hit CP and it will be hard to reverse that this year. He has had some good to great performances in the odd game this year as well, but the graph looks to be trending only one way.
The problem is that Galway are very reliant on Conroy and Daly for setting up attacks and unlocking defences with kick passes, neither had their greatest games yesterday. Conroy handles the most ball of any Galway player in every match almost, I don't see any lad that can do the same job that's ready to step in unfortunately. I think this is going to be an issue unless Conroy can find one final Indian summer in him.
Conroy mixed sublime with appalling. His balls for 3 scores, to Heaney, Burke and Tierneys mark were exceptional. The Burke one in particular was outrageous. However, some of his old failings for kicking ball away needlessly is an issue and doesn't tally with games Galway are attempting to control. He had two shockers in the second half. The first in particular at a moment of pressure directly caused Conor Daly's goal chance which shouldve been taken. He really shouldve known better in that moment
However I think back to when our season looked in the doldrums in the second half of the Tyrone game, and Conroy seemingly taking the game over on his own. He's still an absolutely pivotal leadership figure imo and also still the one player id trust to play a ball to unlock a defence (think of the pass to Comer in the league final). That's ahead of John Daly even who himself can't be excused, he's given away a number of stupid balls in the last two games. With two runners now seemingly around him in Maher and McDaid (wherever he fits back in), we can surely find a way to protect his legs on fast pitches.
Incidentally, i'd also have also said Conroy's gets our most touches by far. However I now think its Peter Cooke. The lad is a magnet for the ball in slow play. Whether anything good is coming from that is up for debate
I don't necessarily disagree with any of that, he is hugely important but for me that's the problem in itself as I'm not sure that we can find a way to protect a player as you've outlined in a big match against a serious team, CP just seems to play different and anyone not up to the pitch of it gets left in the dust. We'll miss Conroy when he is gone out of the team and I don't see any natural replacement, which is the worry really.
We don't really have a kicking midfielder to replace Conroy. McDaid and Maher are ball carriers really. Even though McDaid can definitely kick scores. He's not really a foot passer. I think Cooke is probably the best midfield foot passer after Conroy. Young McLaughlin on the panel as well but he's not really a kicker.
Galway have to be happy with that result given that their two best players at the business end last year were irrelevant yesterday.
Walsh was poor for his high standards for some reason, McDaid did not play.
Unfortunately for them they still have not figured out a full-back height presence, Enda Smith's catch and release for the goal was way too easy. It reminded me of Clifford going up uncontested for two or three marks around the 21 yard line in the first half of last years final. To win an All-Ireland, they most likely will have to figure that one out.
Their forwards seem a bit more cohesive although it would drive me crazy being a corner forward every time Cooke gets the ball, no matter what the first thing he does is turn back to his own goals. There were multiple occasions when he did this yesterday, Burke tried a one-two, it became a one-one.
Still Galway are in a better place than my Mayo, who ironically now may have benefited from losing to Roscommon.
Hope Mayo's injuries heal up in the next month and we get a full squad, with a management who I back, making the correct calls on the team selection and particularly with substitutions.
It will be an interesting Three months. (hopefully)
Quote from: joemamas on April 24, 2023, 03:52:37 PM
Galway have to be happy with that result given that their two best players at the business end last year were irrelevant yesterday.
Walsh was poor for his high standards for some reason, McDaid did not play.
Unfortunately for them they still have not figured out a full-back height presence, Enda Smith's catch and release for the goal was way too easy. It reminded me of Clifford going up uncontested for two or three marks around the 21 yard line in the first half of last years final. To win an All-Ireland, they most likely will have to figure that one out.
Their forwards seem a bit more cohesive although it would drive me crazy being a corner forward every time Cooke gets the ball, no matter what the first thing he does is turn back to his own goals. There were multiple occasions when he did this yesterday, Burke tried a one-two, it became a one-one.
Still Galway are in a better place than my Mayo, who ironically now may have benefited from losing to Roscommon.
Hope Mayo's injuries heal up in the next month and we get a full squad, with a management who I back, making the correct calls on the team selection and particularly with substitutions.
It will be an interesting Three months. (hopefully)
Marked by Brian Stack who seems to always do a good job on the oppositions top forwards.
This was a good description by Jimmy's winning matches
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/04/25/jim-mcguinness-galway-showing-a-quiet-resilience-that-wins-big-games-and-trophies/
Firstly, Galway's ability to get scores was, ironically, in large part a byproduct of Roscommon's attacking shape.
Roscommon were defending with 14 or 15 men behind the ball. So, when they won possession it was really important two of their three inside men – Ben O'Carroll, Donie Smith or Diarmuid Murtagh – were able to get forward to their designated starting positions, which was anywhere within the Galway square.
Having two forwards inside the square always gave Roscommon a focal point. Interestingly, nobody else went inside the 45, so you had a situation where you could have nine, 10 or 11 players outside the offensive 45 and midfield.
Clearly, if the ball was played inside you would then have a situation where possession was gathered by one of the two forwards, and they instantly had support runners coming from deep. The thinking behind the strategy was clear and clever.
However, in reality it ended up penning an unintended narrative. What I mean by that is, because Roscommon weren't prepared to send players over the offensive 45 but instead wanted to keep that space for their two players furthest forward, it created a very congested area outside the 45.
That facilitated a very strong midblock press for Galway. Because of the sheer volume of numbers, Galway were then able to consistently get good pressure on the opposing ball carriers, which meant the objective from a Roscommon point of view wasn't able to be achieved.
They couldn't lift their head or find the time they needed to play those balls inside. They were unable to get their runners off. Roscommon, in short, couldn't break through.
It led to frustration and they started going long and aimless, while also getting turned over and giving the ball away too often. Galway were well positioned to capitalise and kick-start transitional moments as soon as they turned the ball over.