Teachers get it handy!

[JimStynes]

Still undecided. Though, I think all the younger teachers will be blinded by money and vote yes.

[Milltown Row2]

Still undecided. Though, I think all the younger teachers will be blinded by money and vote yes.

Hardly any young teachers about sure!

If the unions have put it back to the teachers to vote on, have they backed the rise or recommending further action?

[Delgany 2nds]

Still undecided. Though, I think all the younger teachers will be blinded by money and vote yes.

Hardly any young teachers about sure!

If the unions have put it back to the teachers to vote on, have they backed the rise or recommending further action?

They've quoted that it's the maximum they could get from available budget. They recommended accepting deal

[Delgany 2nds]

Still undecided. Though, I think all the younger teachers will be blinded by money and vote yes.

Hardly any young teachers about sure!

If the unions have put it back to the teachers to vote on, have they backed the rise or recommending further action?

The INTO quoted that it's the maximum they could get from available budget. They recommended accepting deal

[Sportacus]

Had pints with a few teachers over the weekend. Seems they are more interested in a workload solution which is not on the table, and the Union's are mis-reading their membership because they think getting them a few more quid is the answer to teachers woes.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

To a point but this deal (~13% and no workload agreement) is going to fly over the finishing line without a bother.
I don't think, say, 4% and an agreed workload solution would.
Money talks.

[Sportacus]

To a point but this deal (~13% and no workload agreement) is going to fly over the finishing line without a bother.
I don't think, say, 4% and an agreed workload solution would.
Money talks.

I think they see the money as a given but don't want to return to the previous levels of bureaucracy.

[JimStynes]

To a point but this deal (~13% and no workload agreement) is going to fly over the finishing line without a bother.
I don't think, say, 4% and an agreed workload solution would.
Money talks.

The younger teachers are blinded by the money and haven't ever went through the unrealistic inspection show/game/charade or whatever you'd like to call it.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

To a point but this deal (~13% and no workload agreement) is going to fly over the finishing line without a bother.
I don't think, say, 4% and an agreed workload solution would.
Money talks.

The younger teachers are blinded by the money and haven't ever went through the unrealistic inspection show/game/charade or whatever you'd like to call it.

I think that's fairly simplistic.
Anyway, "the young teachers" make up a fairly small percentage of the voters so they won't be the winning and losing of this.
I imagine those who will be "blinded by the money" are those who have been getting it tight with rising costs over the last few years and to whom the extra few hundred a month is very much needed. Those are people of all ages of course but I wouldn't particularly be thinking of "young teachers" in this case.

[Milltown Row2]

Would current teachers prefer the schools to have more resources more teachers smaller classes less workload to having an increased wage?

[Jim Bob]

Would current teachers prefer the schools to have more resources more teachers smaller classes less workload to having an increased wage?

 All of the above.... Sure why not.  The children deserve the best

[Tony Baloney]

To a point but this deal (~13% and no workload agreement) is going to fly over the finishing line without a bother.
I don't think, say, 4% and an agreed workload solution would.
Money talks.

The younger teachers are blinded by the money and haven't ever went through the unrealistic inspection show/game/charade or whatever you'd like to call it.

What's the fear teachers have of being inspected? My wife is yapping about it and she hasn't been inspected in 14 years!  Maybe if inspections were more frequent e.g. annually, there would be less fuss about it.

[manfromdelmonte]

To a point but this deal (~13% and no workload agreement) is going to fly over the finishing line without a bother.
I don't think, say, 4% and an agreed workload solution would.
Money talks.

The younger teachers are blinded by the money and haven't ever went through the unrealistic inspection show/game/charade or whatever you'd like to call it.

What's the fear teachers have of being inspected? My wife is yapping about it and she hasn't been inspected in 14 years!  Maybe if inspections were more frequent e.g. annually, there would be less fuss about it.

No problem with inspections. Would welcome regular inspections for all schools.
The issue is that it's all about paperwork and procedures.

Rarely about the quality of teaching or the quality of learning.

Most inspectors are teachers who wanted to get out of the classroom.

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

To a point but this deal (~13% and no workload agreement) is going to fly over the finishing line without a bother.
I don't think, say, 4% and an agreed workload solution would.
Money talks.

I think they see the money as a given but don't want to return to the previous levels of bureaucracy.

So, is it possible that there will be an agreement re pay, but the action short of strike remains?

[Milltown Row2]

To a point but this deal (~13% and no workload agreement) is going to fly over the finishing line without a bother.
I don't think, say, 4% and an agreed workload solution would.
Money talks.

The younger teachers are blinded by the money and haven't ever went through the unrealistic inspection show/game/charade or whatever you'd like to call it.

What's the fear teachers have of being inspected? My wife is yapping about it and she hasn't been inspected in 14 years!  Maybe if inspections were more frequent e.g. annually, there would be less fuss about it.

A principal killed herself recently in England after an inspection based on the results given afterwards

Inspections do bring a level of pressure on the school and teachers.

Inspections though need to be look at in how they are conducted.

And no issues with regular 'pop in' day inspections. Having been through a few back in the day you'll never be perfect to what they are looking but providing you're not some clampit you'll get through it

Many jobs have some form of inspections or audits but you usually know well in advance

But I don't think inspections are a major issue when talking to teachers