Laois Senior Football Championship 2022
Arles Killeen v Portarlington
Portlaoise v Emo
O Dempseys v Killeshin
Rosenallis v BallyRoan Abbey
Stradbally v Ballyfin
Park Ratheniska v Courtwood
Graigcullen v Clonaslee St Manmans
St Joseph's v Ballylinan
Apologies Junior Ex didn't realise it was the 2021 thread
Arles Killeen v Portarlington - Port at a canter
Portlaoise v Emo - Emo to win again
O Dempseys v Killeshin - O'Dempseys easily see off Killeshin Challenge
Rosenallis v BallyRoan Abbey - BA to be way too strong for Rosenallis
Stradbally v Ballyfin - Ballyfin to win this one
Park Ratheniska v Courtwood - I'll go for Park to cause a 1st round shock
Graigcullen v Clonaslee St Manmans - Graiguecullen to easily see off Clonaslee challenge
St Joseph's v Ballylinan - Josephs win
A bit early to be predicting these games but sure why not?
Arles Killeen v Portarlington - Port handily enough.
Portlaoise v Emo - Think Portlaoise will be better prepared than 2020 and edge it.
O Dempseys v Killeshin - O'Dempseys but not by much.
Rosenallis v Ballyroan Abbey - BA comfortably .
Stradbally v Ballyfin - Stradbally are improving and might pull off a shock here.
Park Ratheniska v Courtwood - Think Courtwood's experience of senior will help them edge this.
Graigcullen v Clonaslee St Manmans - Graigue by 6 or 7.
St Joseph's v Ballylinan - Joe's although Ballylinan can't be as bad again as last year.
Aren't the first round games scheduled to take place in early August ?
Quote from: Spiritof86 on March 02, 2022, 02:24:21 PM
Aren't the first round games scheduled to take place in early August ?
Late July. Miles away yet.
Anyone have times of the match's this weekend?
Thursday 21st July
O'Dempseys vs Killeshin @7:30
Friday 22nd July
Emo vs Portlaoise @6:30
Joseph's vs Ballylinan @8:00
Saturday 23rd July
Arles Kileen vs Portarlington @4:30
Clonaslee St Manmans vs Graiguecullen @6:00
Ballyroan Abbey vs Rosenallis @7:30
Sunday 24th July
Stradbally vs Ballyfin @11:45
Park Ratheniska vs Courtwood @1:15
All in OMP
Thank you Helix
Quote from: Spiritof86 on July 19, 2022, 08:43:15 PM
Thank you Helix
No problem. The county board €150 pass across championship across all games not a bad shout if you're into both codes. Wonder have many embraced the online ticket passes as no longer able to buy from the gate in OMP
Why can't the county board have a weekend pass like other countys. Tipperary 20 euro for a weekend pass to cover all games great value for people who go to alot of games.
Tonight
O'Dempseys vs Killeshin @7:30 - O'Dempseys by 5
Friday 22nd July
Emo vs Portlaoise @6:30. - Portlaoise by 7
Joseph's vs Ballylinan @8:00. - Joseph's by 9
Saturday 23rd July
Arles Kileen vs Portarlington @4:30 - Port by 5
Clonaslee St Manmans vs Graiguecullen @6:00 - Graigue by 8
Ballyroan Abbey vs Rosenallis @7:30 - Ballyroan by 6
Sunday 24th July
Stradbally vs Ballyfin @11:45. - Draw
Park Ratheniska vs Courtwood @1:15. - Draw
Quote from: Laois man on July 19, 2022, 10:27:54 PM
Why can't the county board have a weekend pass like other countys. Tipperary 20 euro for a weekend pass to cover all games great value for people who go to alot of games.
They have digital pass in Tipp to for about €80 for year last time I checked (could have increased since Covid). Was ideal when living abroad in particular or older persons not able to get into games.
O'Dempseys vs Killieshin. Draw
Emo Vs Portlaoise Portlaoise by 3-4 points.
Joseph's vs Ballylinan could be one of more entertaining matches of the weekend if Gary Walsh is on form. Still see Joseph's by 5-6 points.
Portarlington vs Arles Kileen Portarlington by 8-9 points.
Clonaslee St Manmans vs Graiguecullen Graigue by 7-8 points.
Rosenallis vs Ballyroan Abbey: Ballyroan Abbey by 2 points
Stradbally vs Ballyfin Stradbally by -3
Courtwood vs Park Ratheniska: Head says Courtwood just though wouldn't surprise me if Park get the win.
Either Graiguecullen or Portarlington with a full compliment to win it out.
O'Dempseys to beat Killieshin by 3 despite being down Mark Barry and Fionn Holland
Portlaoise to beat Emo reasonably comfortably although Emo always produce on the championship day
Joseph's should have too much for Ballylinan
Portarlington to beat Arles Killeen.
Graigue to beat Clonaslee well.
Ballyroan Abbey to beat Rosenallis by 7 or 8.
Ballyfin v Stradbally is the one I think could be a draw
Courtwood v Park Ratheniska could also be tight. Courtwood by 2 or 3.
So it's in tenner in tonight for one match and also tenner in for Sunday morning for two matches ? Am I understanding that right ?
great value for money sunday
killeshin
town
joeys
port
graigue
ballyroan
littletown
wood
There should be weekend passes for 20/25 euro.
Quote from: georgedoylesrightleg on July 21, 2022, 01:10:38 PM
great value for money sunday
Yeah that's a winner for a Sunday afternoon alright .
Have a feeling Killeshin will be competitive but O'Ds should won by 3.
Portlaoise and Emo both mixing a few. Surely Portlaoise have better depth. Fancy then by 5.
Joe's will have way to much. 8 minimum.
Port by as much as they want. I'll say 12.
Clonaslee will be closer than some think. Graigue by 1.
Ballyroaan should win but I've a feeling Rosenallis might catch them. Rosenalus by 2.
Ballyfin by 3.
Courtwood by 4.
Quote from: Robbo on July 21, 2022, 04:34:22 PM
Have a feeling Killeshin will be competitive but O'Ds should won by 3.
Portlaoise and Emo both mixing a few. Surely Portlaoise have better depth. Fancy then by 5.
Joe's will have way to much. 8 minimum.
Port by as much as they want. I'll say 12.
Clonaslee will be closer than some think. Graigue by 1.
Ballyroaan should win but I've a feeling Rosenallis might catch them. Rosenalus by 2.
Ballyfin by 3.
Courtwood by 4.
Very disappointing game last night thought killeshin had something about them after winning 1b league. Absolutely woeful. Could struggle for relegation play off on the basis of that performance. O'Dempseys were decent nonetheless good fast attacking football.
No one in their right mind could have predicted a 20 point win, if they did any chance of some lotto numbers for the euro millions tonight 8)
Quote from: Helix. on July 19, 2022, 05:04:30 PM
Thursday 21st July
O'Dempseys vs Killeshin @7:30
Friday 22nd July
Emo vs Portlaoise @6:30
Joseph's vs Ballylinan @8:00
Saturday 23rd July
Arles Kileen vs Portarlington @4:30
Clonaslee St Manmans vs Graiguecullen @6:00
Ballyroan Abbey vs Rosenallis @7:30
Sunday 24th July
Stradbally vs Ballyfin @11:45
Park Ratheniska vs Courtwood @1:15
All in OMP
Dempseys by 20
Portlaoise by 6
Called off
Portarlington by 6
Graiugecullen by 5
BA by 8
Stradbally by 7
Dunno really, either side by a narrow margin
Poor stuff In OMP this evening . Distinct lack of quality on show . Some awful wides and handling. Return or Swayne and Lillis badly needed . Like to see Benny Carroll back involved with county .
Since Thursday evening we've had a host of one sided encounters that have done nothing for both the winning sides and the losing sides.
There are about 8 teams, maybe 10 at an extreme push who you could deem Senior standard but yet we persist with a bad product of 16 teams?
We either whittle the numbers down or we mirror what they do in Kerry and have two Senior Championships.
1. Individual Clubs operating in their own separate 8-10 team Senior Championship (the winner represents Laois in Leinster)
2. Individual Clubs + Amalgamations (smaller rural clubs pooling together) to create a Senior Championship
Drastic action needs to be done now before we fall even further behind at both Underage and Senior intercounty level.
We also need to do something about getting more participation in the urban centres. Portlaoise won at the weekend but there are problems there. County Board need to look at the biggest town in the county and help grow the game there.
Very poor quality over the weekend but hopefully round 2 will see some more evenly matched games.
When's the draw for the next round?
I'll just ad - as per usual my predictions were spot on 😀
Easy predictions
Anyone know what time the draw for 2nd round is on tomorrow or are they holding off till St Joseph's Ballylinan match is played?
Overall games relatively poor for first round. Ballyfin toothless upfront without Sean Moore. Never looked like winning even when they levelled it at start of 2nd half.
Niall Dunne immense for Courtwood and Robert Tyrell. Dunne definitely should be in with Laois next year. Park Ratheniska lacking bit of size up front but showed enough to say they should be good enough to stay senior. Whether the draw will be kind to them remains to be seen.
SFC Winners
Portlaoise v Courtwood
Ballyroan Abbey v Winners St Joseph's /Ballylinan
Stradbally v Graiguecullen
O'Dempsey's v Portarlington
SFC Qualifier
Ballyfin v Emo
Park Ratheniska v Killeshin
Clonaslee St Manmans v Loser St Joseph's /Ballylinan
Rosenallis v Arles Killeen
I think Stradbally are going to be one watch . Looked very fit,hungry organised and can get stronger . There match with Graigue will be interesting.
Niall Dunne was immense for Courtwood. They will fancy there chances against Portlaoise.
Quote from: Spiritof86 on July 25, 2022, 01:49:41 PM
I think Stradbally are going to be one watch . Looked very fit,hungry organised and can get stronger . There match with Graigue will be interesting.
Niall Dunne was immense for Courtwood. They will fancy there chances against Portlaoise.
They'll be out to beat Graigue after losing last year so a good chance to put it right. Courtwood as said will definitely fancy their chances. As will Park Ratheniska against a depleted killeshin.
Yeah I think there's more to come from Park . Don't look out of there depth at this level . As said Killeshin down a lot of players and could be in contention for the drop if they don't overcome Park .
I feel like I've been b*tching and moaning about it for years but anyways, here goes.
The madness of having 16 teams at Senior and 8 at Intermediate was really exposed over the weekend. At the very least, the Senior should be trimmed down to 12. We could have a system whereby our Senior, Intermediate and Junior Championships each have 12 sides and follow an identical format. Simple, straightforward and easy to implement in theory.
Personally, I would be in favour of even more radical change. For example, we could have 8 clubs operating at Senior alongside 4 divisional sides representing the North, South, East and West as per the Divisional Championship run under Sugrue a few years ago. Every player would have access to Senior football and the championship quality would be greatly improved instantly.
We could then have another 12 sides in the Intermediate which would mean 4 current Intermediate sides would be relegated to Junior, a fair compromise in my eyes given how poor the quality is among the weaker Intermediate sides at the moment.
I think Steven Miller and LaoisToday proposed something similar a while back. I don't remember much reaction to it at the time but either way concessions will have to be made if we are to improve the standard and quality of football in this county. Of course, if people are happy with the status quo, then by all means leave the current format in place.
I only saw our own game over the weekend but from talking to people it appears there were a lot of disappointing games.
I'd have no fear for Park-Ratheniska going straight back down. I think they have enough about them to find a win or maybe more. That first senior game is under their belts now and they'll be the better for that.
We weren't too bad but we've a very small squad this year. We badly need to avoid injuries and/or suspensions. I'd imagine Portlaoise will be anxious to prove last year was a once off to us!🙂
Quote from: town1980 on July 24, 2022, 11:28:19 PM
Easy predictions
Didn't see yours posted, presume they were spot on though :-*
Quote from: Countyminor on July 25, 2022, 06:29:29 PM
I feel like I've been b*tching and moaning about it for years but anyways, here goes.
The madness of having 16 teams at Senior and 8 at Intermediate was really exposed over the weekend. At the very least, the Senior should be trimmed down to 12. We could have a system whereby our Senior, Intermediate and Junior Championships each have 12 sides and follow an identical format. Simple, straightforward and easy to implement in theory.
Personally, I would be in favour of even more radical change. For example, we could have 8 clubs operating at Senior alongside 4 divisional sides representing the North, South, East and West as per the Divisional Championship run under Sugrue a few years ago. Every player would have access to Senior football and the championship quality would be greatly improved instantly.
We could then have another 12 sides in the Intermediate which would mean 4 current Intermediate sides would be relegated to Junior, a fair compromise in my eyes given how poor the quality is among the weaker Intermediate sides at the moment.
I think Steven Miller and LaoisToday proposed something similar a while back. I don't remember much reaction to it at the time but either way concessions will have to be made if we are to improve the standard and quality of football in this county. Of course, if people are happy with the status quo, then by all means leave the current format in place.
There was a botched effort to do something to change the SFC format due to go before last year's convention. I think it was withdrawn. There was a convoluted "points system" in place due to relegate 4 teams for the 2024 championship but the weighting of it was all arseways and it didn't see the light of day.
Joseph's also wanted to revert to 4 groups of 4. Don't know what happened their proposal.
Why was the Josephs v Ballylinan game postponed.
Quote from: redsetanta on July 26, 2022, 03:46:30 PM
Why was the Josephs v Ballylinan game postponed.
Bereavement.
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2022/07/25/two-year-old-child-dies-in-paddling-pool-accident-in-co-laois/
Arles Kileen are nailed on to get relegated, they're a Junior team in every sense but in name.
90% of their team against Port the other evening were over the age of 34/35 and even age aside, the majority were nowhere near mobile/fit enough to be playing Senior. There are very dark times ahead for that club, Kilcruise to their credit have a crop of about 10-15 young lads between Inter/Junior B so they'll be fine long term you'd imagine.
Its hard to see anyone that will topple Port this year anyway, opposition aside the other evening the pace that they attack at is brilliant and how they transition to defend when out of possession shows huge hunger and fitness levels.
Quote from: Pugwash on July 26, 2022, 06:32:02 PM
Arles Kileen are nailed on to get relegated, they're a Junior team in every sense but in name.
90% of their team against Port the other evening were over the age of 34/35 and even age aside, the majority were nowhere near mobile/fit enough to be playing Senior. There are very dark times ahead for that club, Kilcruise to their credit have a crop of about 10-15 young lads between Inter/Junior B so they'll be fine long term you'd imagine.
Its hard to see anyone that will topple Port this year anyway, opposition aside the other evening the pace that they attack at is brilliant and how they transition to defend when out of possession shows huge hunger and fitness levels.
Not sure it's as nailed on that Killeen get relegated as you say. They will no doubt go down at some stage over the next few years, but the two Kingston's might just be good enough to help them beat a Rosenallis/Ballylinan/Killeshin/Park. They only need one win.
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on July 26, 2022, 06:48:20 PM
Quote from: Pugwash on July 26, 2022, 06:32:02 PM
Arles Kileen are nailed on to get relegated, they're a Junior team in every sense but in name.
90% of their team against Port the other evening were over the age of 34/35 and even age aside, the majority were nowhere near mobile/fit enough to be playing Senior. There are very dark times ahead for that club, Kilcruise to their credit have a crop of about 10-15 young lads between Inter/Junior B so they'll be fine long term you'd imagine.
Its hard to see anyone that will topple Port this year anyway, opposition aside the other evening the pace that they attack at is brilliant and how they transition to defend when out of possession shows huge hunger and fitness levels.
Not sure it's as nailed on that Killeen get relegated as you say. They will no doubt go down at some stage over the next few years, but the two Kingston's might just be good enough to help them beat a Rosenallis/Ballylinan/Killeshin/Park. They only need one win.
I tend to agree with this. Killeen may well go down but they are masters of survival. Apart from the 2 Kingstons, they have a couple of other good young lads in Dunne and Byrne (currently injured). I wouldn't rule them out v Rosenallis and even if they lose that, they're capable of beating one of the three other teams in the relegation playoffs.
But, that said, they are very likely to go down over the next few years.
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on July 26, 2022, 06:48:20 PM
Quote from: Pugwash on July 26, 2022, 06:32:02 PM
Arles Kileen are nailed on to get relegated, they're a Junior team in every sense but in name.
90% of their team against Port the other evening were over the age of 34/35 and even age aside, the majority were nowhere near mobile/fit enough to be playing Senior. There are very dark times ahead for that club, Kilcruise to their credit have a crop of about 10-15 young lads between Inter/Junior B so they'll be fine long term you'd imagine.
Its hard to see anyone that will topple Port this year anyway, opposition aside the other evening the pace that they attack at is brilliant and how they transition to defend when out of possession shows huge hunger and fitness levels.
Not sure it's as nailed on that Killeen get relegated as you say. They will no doubt go down at some stage over the next few years, but the two Kingston's might just be good enough to help them beat a Rosenallis/Ballylinan/Killeshin/Park. They only need one win.
I tend to agree with the take that they might well be ok. Killeen always seem to dig a win from somewhere and there are quite a few teams of similar calibre. Correct me if I'm wrong but they'll have their suspended lads back after Round 2? You'd have to respect the commitment from their players but the whole setup is madness. If your team is essentially relying on two really good forwards propped up by 13 lads with an average age of 35 and one or two sub options then you don't have a viable club.
Joseph's v Ballylinan this evening. I kinda expect Ballylinan to give Joseph's a good run for this. Joseph's have underperformed for years now in the championship while Ballylinan, although they are damn lucky not to be an intermediate team this year, have the potential to produce a performance on any given day.
Having said all that Joseph's to grind it out by 3 or 4.
I was miles out! Joseph's impressive but I didn't realise how short Ballylinan were. No Kevin Byrne, Seamus Lacey, Andy McEvoy, Messi Redmond, Cathail Dunne. They could struggle against CSM next weekend.
Joe's very good tonight. Should make a semi.
Joes should go all the way Jesus they were unreal tonight made a bad ballylinan team look shite no commitment lads gone on hols deserved what they got joes pissin home through To the next round ballyroann handy
Joseph's won't be getting anything handy off Ballyroan. They do have a stronger panel though this year than in previous years, which might help them get over the line this time. Bringing off the bench the likes of Lacey, Brophy, O'Brien is a good sign.
Joe's will beat Ballyroan by 6+ points
Graiguecullen beat Stradbally by 4+ points
Portlaoise beat Courtwood by 3+ points
Portarlington beat O'Dempseys 6+ points
Ballylinan beat Clonaslee by 2+ points
Emo beat Ballyfin by 3+ points
Killeshin beat Ratheniska by 4+ points
Rosenallis beat Killeen by 5+ points
Ballyroan Abbey
Graiguecullen
Portlaoise
Portarlington
Clonaslee
Emo
Killeshin
Rosenallis
Ballyroan Abbey
Stradbally
Portlaoise
O'Dempseys Portarlington draw
Clonaslee
Emo
Park Ratheniska
Arles Kileen
Joes by 8
Stradbally by 2
Courtwood by 2
Port by 6
Clonaslee by 5
Emo by 4
Park by 6
Killeen by 1
I hear Port have a few players back on board .
Courtwood by 2.
Port by 9
Graigue after a replay
Joes by 5
Clonaslee by 5
Killeshin by 4
Ballyfin by 1
Rosenallis by 2
Great credit to both teams for a super
game of football this evening in o.m.p
Quote from: vetoldthe on August 05, 2022, 10:04:27 PM
Great credit to both teams for a super
game of football this evening in o.m.p
Have to agree.Very enjoyable. O'Ds missed a few goal chances and could have had a free at the end to equalise.
I've been at all the senior football championship games over the past couple of weeks . I think we are in for a different kind of championship this year in the sense that it will be more open than in previous years . Portlaoise dominated for years but they are now pack with the pack . Portarlington were virtually unplayable the past two seasons but I've seen them in the league a few times this year and i seen them against Killeen and ODempseys recently. They are not at the level they were at the past two years . Port are still going to take beating but they are not altogether as strong . They are giving away easy scores and goal chances that they wouldn't of done last year or the year before . I know they are missing a few players but they don't look as strong or as fine tuned
I think we have 6 teams who can win the championship this year . Portarlington, Graiguecullen, St Joseph's, Portlaoise, ODempseys and Ballyroan Abbey. Not much between any of them at the moment .
There's only 4 teams that'll be there challenging for the championship
1.Port
2.St.Josephs
3.Portlaoise
4.Graigue
and after that the rest are miles behind Ballyroan are after been so successful underage but can't produce it and will never beat any of the top 4 teams. O'Dempseys had the chance but couldn't put Port away. Without doubt there the next two teams after the top 4 with possibly Emo at a push next but after that any of the other teams could beat eachother on different days.
Quote from: Tintin84 on August 07, 2022, 12:34:09 AM
There's only 4 teams that'll be there challenging for the championship
1.Port
2.St.Josephs
3.Portlaoise
4.Graigue
and after that the rest are miles behind Ballyroan are after been so successful underage but can't produce it and will never beat any of the top 4 teams. O'Dempseys had the chance but couldn't put Port away. Without doubt there the next two teams after the top 4 with possibly Emo at a push next but after that any of the other teams could beat eachother on different days.
I think you are being a little bit harsh on Ballyroan and ODempseys 😂😂 Ballyroan could of easily beaten Joseph's today and ODempseys could of easily beaten Port last night albeit Port are not as good as previous years at the moment
There is a top 6 with portarlington being the top one but this years championship is as open as ever interesting draws ahead it o Dempsey's and ballyabbey get through your gona see a few nice quarter finals but ide expect fontina top 4 to compete in the final im not convinced on portlaoise time will tell
Quote from: Laoiseabu on August 07, 2022, 12:52:08 AM
Quote from: Tintin84 on August 07, 2022, 12:34:09 AM
There's only 4 teams that'll be there challenging for the championship
1.Port
2.St.Josephs
3.Portlaoise
4.Graigue
and after that the rest are miles behind Ballyroan are after been so successful underage but can't produce it and will never beat any of the top 4 teams. O'Dempseys had the chance but couldn't put Port away. Without doubt there the next two teams after the top 4 with possibly Emo at a push next but after that any of the other teams could beat eachother on different days.
I think you are being a little bit harsh on Ballyroan and ODempseys 😂😂 Ballyroan could of easily beaten Joseph's today and ODempseys could of easily beaten Port last night albeit Port are not as good as previous years at the moment
Could of easily won but did they no? Dempseys could of won last year against portlaois but didn't, Ballyroan thought they were going to turn over portlaois last year in the semi and got beat out of O'Moore park because teams like port and Josephs Portlaois know how to grind out a victory in added time or extra time. Them 4 teams will be contesting the semi finals there miles ahead of the rest of the pack.
Quote from: Tintin84 on August 07, 2022, 12:34:09 AM
There's only 4 teams that'll be there challenging for the championship
1.Port
2.St.Josephs
3.Portlaoise
4.Graigue
and after that the rest are miles behind Ballyroan are after been so successful underage but can't produce it and will never beat any of the top 4 teams. O'Dempseys had the chance but couldn't put Port away. Without doubt there the next two teams after the top 4 with possibly Emo at a push next but after that any of the other teams could beat eachother on different days.
Emo at a push ? Not after today's performance. Seemed like they didn't trust there forwards . Sean Moore immense .
Park deserving winners . Could have had 4 goals , opened up Killeshin very easy . There keepers distribution is questionable though. This draw will be interesting.
A full strength Ballyfin are always a danger and constantly underestimated (myself included). I expect them to make quarter final.
Agree with you but when Sean Moore is way on form like today it makes a huge difference. Finn scored a mighty point during the middle of the second half that have Ballyfin some lift
They drew the 2 strongest teams in the county last year and made the semis the 2 years before that.
Reading the comments here I was surprised that nobody (until the last couple of comments) deemed them worthy of a mention.
Standard of referees in the senior football championship is shocking.
Ballyfin will give balyroan plenty of it the next day. Can run the ball, can kick-pass, score fron distance and have a massive danger/threat in the full line. Could be the best match of the round.
Fair play to park. Better team today but I think dempseys will cut them apart. Need to setup tight and stay in the game. Just cant see anything but O'ds.
Rosenalis such a strange team can look brilliant and awful inbthe same 5 mins. Hard game to call against courtwood.
And everyone still writing off clonaslee. Give them a big chance.
Round 3 should be great in fairness.
Quote from: Batman!!! on August 07, 2022, 08:53:08 PM
Standard of referees in the senior football championship is shocking.
Are you a Emo fan then ?
Quote from: Laoiseabu on August 06, 2022, 10:35:56 PM
I've been at all the senior football championship games over the past couple of weeks . I think we are in for a different kind of championship this year in the sense that it will be more open than in previous years . Portlaoise dominated for years but they are now pack with the pack . Portarlington were virtually unplayable the past two seasons but I've seen them in the league a few times this year and i seen them against Killeen and ODempseys recently. They are not at the level they were at the past two years . Port are still going to take beating but they are not altogether as strong . They are giving away easy scores and goal chances that they wouldn't of done last year or the year before . I know they are missing a few players but they don't look as strong or as fine tuned
I think we have 6 teams who can win the championship this year . Portarlington, Graiguecullen, St Joseph's, Portlaoise, ODempseys and Ballyroan Abbey. Not much between any of them at the moment .
Wouldn't it be great if we had an 8/10 team senior championship and we got two groups of four/five where we had three/four rounds of games with the top teams playing against even other on a regular basis. The O'D v Port game and Joes v Ballyroan A two examples of this. It would cut away so many meaningless games between mid/low ranked teams or where top side brushes aside low ranked team. Surely help bring on the standard of football in the county if the top championship sides having regular games against one another.
Port have come back to the pack but I expect them to improve game on game. They are avoiding Joes, Portlaoise and Graigue in the quarters so they should have another game to bring them on before they face a true contender to their crown.
It was good to see Park/Ratheniska win their second game. A club trying to do the right things at underage and certainly bringing through some good players. Just a pity they didn't draw Stradbally in Round 3! I expect O'Dempseys to be just a bit too much of a step up for them.
I also underestimated Ballyfin but I was fed a line during the week that they were going to be short a pile of lads - didn't see that. Emo will survive but a disappointing year for them.
Rosenallis made hard work of a really very poor but well organised Killeen team. They have scope for improvement and could be a close one with them and Courtwood.
Didn't see the Saturday games.
Courtwood v Rosenallis - Draw
O'Dempsey's v Park-Ratheniska - ODempseys by 5
Ballyroan-Abbey v Ballyfin- Ballyroan by 2
Stradbally v Clonaslee-St Manman's - Clonaslee by 3
Ballylinan v Emo - Ballylinan by 5
Arles-Killeen v Killeshin - Kileen by 1
Quote from: Spiritof86 on August 17, 2022, 04:04:09 PM
Courtwood v Rosenallis - Draw
O'Dempsey's v Park-Ratheniska - ODempseys by 5
Ballyroan-Abbey v Ballyfin- Ballyroan by 2
Stradbally v Clonaslee-St Manman's - Clonaslee by 3
Ballylinan v Emo - Ballylinan by 5
Arles-Killeen v Killeshin - Kileen by 1
Courtwood by 5 points
O'Dempseys by 8+ points
Ballyroan Abbey by 4 points
Stradbally by 3-4 points.
Arles Kileen and Emo to win in relegation play offs.
In order of confidence:
O'Ds by 8
Emo by 4
Killeshin by 3
Clonaslee by 2
Rosenallis by 1
Ballyfin by 1
Big call from Killeshin parting company with Christy Bolger and his backroom team the week of a relegation play off . Cathal Brennan and Arnie Mahon now at the helm for Kileen match .
Courtwood v Rosenallis - Courtwood by 2 or 3
O'Dempsey's v Park-Ratheniska - O'Dempsey's by 9
Ballyroan-Abbey v Ballyfin - Ballyfin by 1
Stradbally v Clonaslee-St Manman's - Stradbally by 4
Ballylinan v Emo - Emo by 6
Arles-Killeen v Killeshin - very hard to call - Killeshin in a replay?!!
Ballylinan by 3
O dempseys by 14 maybe more
Ballyroan by 8
Clonaslee by 4
Kileen by 5
Courtwood by 6
Courtwood, dempseys , ballyroan and stradbally win.
Emo and Killeen win, you heard it here first.
Quote from: Smellyball on August 18, 2022, 01:36:40 PM
Courtwood, dempseys , ballyroan and stradbally win.
Emo and Killeen win, you heard it here first.
Strictly speaking we heard it from Helix first. Sorry! :)
Quote from: SCFC on August 18, 2022, 02:21:13 PM
Quote from: Smellyball on August 18, 2022, 01:36:40 PM
Courtwood, dempseys , ballyroan and stradbally win.
Emo and Killeen win, you heard it here first.
Very true, I missed that.
Apologies
Strictly speaking we heard it from Helix first. Sorry! :)
Kileen
Emo
O'Dempseys
Ballyroan
Rosenallis
Clonaslee
All to win
Quote from: Helix. on August 17, 2022, 05:38:34 PM
Quote from: Spiritof86 on August 17, 2022, 04:04:09 PM
Courtwood v Rosenallis - Draw
O'Dempsey's v Park-Ratheniska - ODempseys by 5
Ballyroan-Abbey v Ballyfin- Ballyroan by 2
Stradbally v Clonaslee-St Manman's - Clonaslee by 3
Ballylinan v Emo - Ballylinan by 5
Arles-Killeen v Killeshin - Kileen by 1
Courtwood by 5 points
O'Dempseys by 8+ points
Ballyroan Abbey by 4 points
Stradbally by 3-4 points.
Arles Kileen and Emo to win in relegation play offs.
Arles Kileen proving me right tonight. Wasn't at the game but always seem to find a way to stay up. Killeshin are in free fall.
Shocking from Killeshin who ran Portlaoise close only a few years ago in the final. They won the Division 1B league this year as well, how have they collapsed so badly?
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on August 19, 2022, 09:34:38 PM
Shocking from Killeshin who ran Portlaoise close only a few years ago in the final. They won the Division 1B league this year as well, how have they collapsed so badly?
Remember The Heath winning a Division 1 title and being a whisker away from being relegated by Emo, a year after they brought Portlaoise to a replay. It can happen.
League in Laois gives you know indication of how a team is prepared it's all about championship and by Jesus there is some massively under prepared teams in this year's championship
Didn't bother me who won that game tonight, other than having Killeen in a small accumulator, but how in the name of Jaysus was that last gasp goal allowed?
From a dead ball, no-one is supposed to be in the square before the ball and I'm fairly sure that wasn't the case!
No love lost out there tonight anyway.
Great result for kileen. 20 years senior. An achievement but nothing compared to what they could have done as a parish team.
Windy today. Might suit teams who can move the ball forward quicker. Emo carry well, ballyfin can kick pass well but ballroan will drop bodies back in. Clonaslee will need to be more direct, might need Corbet further out the field.
Interesting day ahead.
Quote from: Robbo on August 20, 2022, 12:42:24 PM
Great result for kileen. 20 years senior. An achievement but nothing compared to what they could have done as a parish team.
Windy today. Might suit teams who can move the ball forward quicker. Emo carry well, ballyfin can kick pass well but ballroan will drop bodies back in. Clonaslee will need to be more direct, might need Corbet further out the field.
Interesting day ahead.
Great win for Clonaslee tonight. Stradbally will be sick but that's football.
Quote from: Tintin84 on August 19, 2022, 03:01:56 PM
Kileen
Emo
O'Dempseys
Ballyroan
Rosenallis
Clonaslee
All to win
perdictions on song so far...
Quote from: Downtheroad on August 20, 2022, 10:58:09 PM
Quote from: Tintin84 on August 20, 2022, 10:36:58 PM
Quote from: Tintin84 on August 19, 2022, 03:01:56 PM
Kileen
Emo
O'Dempseys
Ballyroan
Rosenallis
Clonaslee
All to win
perdictions on song so far...
Impressive
Rosenallis to let you down tomorrow. More power to you if it comes through the total predictions.
There's always one Helix.👍🤣🤣
Saw the second half of Ballyroan match . Look to be flying it and have McMahon in the full forward line who looks in some shape . Interesting to see how they progress now . Marty Scully is definitely county material .
Stradbally have only themselves to blame . Seemed like they were reluctant to go for the jugular when they got ahead . In fairness to St Manmans they are extremely organised and disciplined and kept coming back for more . Lot of youngsters in there with a bit of experience. The joy on there faces at the end was great to see . This is a different Clonaslee-St Manman's than the one I grew up with and fair play to them .
O Dempsey are so open in this first half of the 4 qualifiers BAbbey are the best of them they are a well drilled side ballyfinnare know pushovers but they had no answer at all for them ,,courtwood very lucky to win today also but they won't win a quarter I don't think
Stradbally letting me down in predictions over the weekend. Good to see a new face among quarter finalists. Courtwood finding enough to get over the line vs Rosenallis and O'Dempseys eventually pulling away from Park Ratheniska.
Draws for quarter finals:
Ballyroan Abbey vs Portarlington
Clonaslee St Manmans vs Portlaoise
Graiguecullen vs Courtwood
O'Dempseys vs St Joseph's
Probably close to top 8 teams left in it. Expect wins for Portarlington, Portlaoise, Graiguecullen and I think O'Dempseys will beat Joseph's. Will have few more back the next day.
Killeshin vs Ballylinan relegation could go either way. Hard to call.
I'm predicting Portlaoise and Graiguecullen to win comfortably the next day . I think Port will edge Ballyroan and Joseph's will edge ODempseys
Hard draw for courtwood, think graigue will win that with a bit too spare.
Port and ballyroan will be interesting. Ballyroan better than I thought but port will be a real test.
I think clojnslee will be delited to avoid graigue and port. They'll resist a shot at portlaoise. Might come up a little short but they'll give them plenty of it.
Joseph's and o dempsys best pick of the quarters I think. Hard to call
First game today was OK. Enjoyable enough. Courtwood were slightly the better team for me. Just about deserved it but will have to be an awful lot better to have any chance v Graiguecullen.
Park gave it a right go in the second game but their inexperience cost them. Still they can be proud of their year. O'Dempseys pulled away well but wouldn't be happy with the first 40 minutes or so.
Didn't see last night's games. Fair play to Clonaslee. They have reinvented themselves big time as a good footballing side with none of the shite that they used to go on with. They are likely to stay senior for a long time now.
Portarlington and ODempseys players not being allowed go to the Electric Picnic . It will be interesting to see if the other 6 quarter finalists will take the same stance
Not a hope of O'Dempseys making semi final just dont have it, if it was Port or Portlaoise they played today game would of been over before half time, ODempseys well out of top 4 margin of been top 8.
O'Dempseys definitely under achieving Kearns doing f**k all with them, bringing Port to s point is on the CV already
Tintin you seem a lil jealous too much talk about o Dempsey I sense your a club man.? Maybe step up and stop whinging and back your manager,,ballayabbey the best of the 4 gone through for me it's an open championship
Quote from: town1980 on August 21, 2022, 10:38:59 PM
Tintin you seem a lil jealous too much talk about o Dempsey I sense your a club man.? Maybe step up and stop whinging and back your manager,,ballayabbey the best of the 4 gone through for me it's an open championship
He could be a Ballyroan man who isn't too fond of his own clubman Kearns either .
Agreed
The championship starts from here, knockout football from here on. Predicting Graigue to have it very handy over Courtwoof +6 pts, Portlaoise to win it comfortably vs CSM +8pts, Port to get the job done vs Ballyroan... ballyroan very very defensive and might be better served by being more attack minded with the talent that's available. O Dempsey's favourites vs St Josephs on the back of a brilliant losing performance vs Port... and giving them the label if dark horse to win the championship this year.
I fancy BA to turn over Port. I don't think they're operating at the same level as last few years. Ballyroan disposed of a decent Ballyfin team very nicely, impressed with them.
Bally abbey v defensive but kicked 4-13 so you know your football 🤦♂️😂so I predict a massive battle and agree o Dempsey a dark horse bad today but joes are not good in my opinion ,,the town are well in it and graigue to win easy
I agree that Port are not operating at the same level as previous years ( at least not yet anyway ) . They also had an atrocious league by their standards. If Port play the way they played against ODempseys then Ballyroan have a seriously good chance of toppling them in my opinion . Port have been a bit understrength and do have a couple of lads to come back though . Sean Byrne and R Pigott still have to come back and D Bennett , J Moore and D Murphy only came on very late against ODempseys . They are 5 big additions . ODempseys may be in a slightly false position only losing to them by a point .
Quote from: town1980 on August 21, 2022, 11:34:42 PM
Bally abbey v defensive but kicked 4-13 so you know your football 🤦♂️😂so I predict a massive battle and agree o Dempsey a dark horse bad today but joes are not good in my opinion ,,the town are well in it and graigue to win easy
Ballyroan 3pts from play vs Josephs if I remember correctly, with a very defensive setup, as Josephs had also. Not exactly Harlem globetrotters stuff was it??? But that's just my opinion.
It's that time of the year where Josephs get all excited before exiting in a heroic two point defeat. Graigue think they are back but that's every year since 1965. Ballyroanabbey talk about 92. O Dempsey's are just O Dempsey's. Courtwood and St Man's realize they are just making up the numbers. Portlaoise dream of the good old days and Port win a 3rd County in a row.
Laois Championship and we love it
I think the championship has been decent enough competitive wise. The obvious two tiers, 4/5 teams going to battle it out for champo and the rest the same standard. Laois senior I'd rank around 5th in Leinster. On quarters my predictions port by 3, portlaoise by 7, Josephs by 5, graigue by 6.
some good games over weekend. wonder when the last time donie was kept scoreless in a game was. port the team to beat. ballyroan look to be missing something still. joes have it to prove, but sneaky suspicion for them. fair play to clonaslee, a club moving on from its past hopefully. park be happy with their lot. courtwood still improving. o dempseys look a dark horse.
Unfortunately, competitive doesn't mean it's any good. Let's be honest with ourselves here. It's a very poor standard of football being played, and Portarlington have obviously decided that they can phase their preparation in line with the latter stages of the Championship. Based on what they did last year, that should work for them, because the other teams are very, very ordinary imo.
The relegation decider should be a warning to club executives about prematurely ending good underage relations. Killeshin have disimproved since ending their relationship with Crettyard; and it was a mutually beneficial relationship. Similarly Ballylinan, who probably benefitted being the top dog in Ballylinan/Glenmor. Shocking to see how bad they've both become.
After watching the dross of the last number of weeks, I'm undecided about the future structure of the Championship. My current thinking is that it doesn't really matter. Football in this county is in a pathetic state right now, and in many ways we just need to rip up the blueprint (whatever the f**k that is) and start afresh. There's very little we can do that will help our situation short term
what a ray of sunshine ;D
What a troll
Quote from: High Fielder on August 24, 2022, 08:34:42 AM
Unfortunately, competitive doesn't mean it's any good. Let's be honest with ourselves here. It's a very poor standard of football being played, and Portarlington have obviously decided that they can phase their preparation in line with the latter stages of the Championship. Based on what they did last year, that should work for them, because the other teams are very, very ordinary imo.
The relegation decider should be a warning to club executives about prematurely ending good underage relations. Killeshin have disimproved since ending their relationship with Crettyard; and it was a mutually beneficial relationship. Similarly Ballylinan, who probably benefitted being the top dog in Ballylinan/Glenmor. Shocking to see how bad they've both become.
After watching the dross of the last number of weeks, I'm undecided about the future structure of the Championship. My current thinking is that it doesn't really matter. Football in this county is in a pathetic state right now, and in many ways we just need to rip up the blueprint (whatever the f**k that is) and start afresh. There's very little we can do that will help our situation short term
Got to agree with you here, the standard is poor and very few stand out players coming through, also you have it nailed on with regards Port, they have this championship sussed. They wont be caught, not a chance.
Ah your alright. your not a troll, just high strung. really lookin forward to the quarters now. some good young players showing up well. hope they commit to the county now too.
Quote from: High Fielder on August 24, 2022, 08:34:42 AM
Unfortunately, competitive doesn't mean it's any good. Let's be honest with ourselves here. It's a very poor standard of football being played, and Portarlington have obviously decided that they can phase their preparation in line with the latter stages of the Championship. Based on what they did last year, that should work for them, because the other teams are very, very ordinary imo.
The relegation decider should be a warning to club executives about prematurely ending good underage relations. Killeshin have disimproved since ending their relationship with Crettyard; and it was a mutually beneficial relationship. Similarly Ballylinan, who probably benefitted being the top dog in Ballylinan/Glenmor. Shocking to see how bad they've both become.
After watching the dross of the last number of weeks, I'm undecided about the future structure of the Championship. My current thinking is that it doesn't really matter. Football in this county is in a pathetic state right now, and in many ways we just need to rip up the blueprint (whatever the f**k that is) and start afresh. There's very little we can do that will help our situation short term
The Killeshin and Crettyard juvenile amalgamation only broke up in 2019
Are you seriously suggesting that it has had an impact on the fortunes of their adult teams already?
Quote from: portlaoisekid on August 24, 2022, 09:25:12 AM
Quote from: High Fielder on August 24, 2022, 08:34:42 AM
Unfortunately, competitive doesn't mean it's any good. Let's be honest with ourselves here. It's a very poor standard of football being played, and Portarlington have obviously decided that they can phase their preparation in line with the latter stages of the Championship. Based on what they did last year, that should work for them, because the other teams are very, very ordinary imo.
The relegation decider should be a warning to club executives about prematurely ending good underage relations. Killeshin have disimproved since ending their relationship with Crettyard; and it was a mutually beneficial relationship. Similarly Ballylinan, who probably benefitted being the top dog in Ballylinan/Glenmor. Shocking to see how bad they've both become.
After watching the dross of the last number of weeks, I'm undecided about the future structure of the Championship. My current thinking is that it doesn't really matter. Football in this county is in a pathetic state right now, and in many ways we just need to rip up the blueprint (whatever the f**k that is) and start afresh. There's very little we can do that will help our situation short term
Got to agree with you here, the standard is poor and very few stand out players coming through, also you have it nailed on with regards Port, they have this championship sussed. They wont be caught, not a chance.
You sure you're not saying that and simultaneously thinking your boys can't turn them over? 😀 I can't see it, but I do wonder about lads coming back into a setup and the potential for disharmony that can cause. Port weren't far off winning a Leinster last year. I think it would have benefitted them if the lads had gone in with the county. I'm not sure about this going away and reintegrating later in the Championship.
Quote from: clonadmad on August 24, 2022, 09:33:13 AM
Quote from: High Fielder on August 24, 2022, 08:34:42 AM
Unfortunately, competitive doesn't mean it's any good. Let's be honest with ourselves here. It's a very poor standard of football being played, and Portarlington have obviously decided that they can phase their preparation in line with the latter stages of the Championship. Based on what they did last year, that should work for them, because the other teams are very, very ordinary imo.
The relegation decider should be a warning to club executives about prematurely ending good underage relations. Killeshin have disimproved since ending their relationship with Crettyard; and it was a mutually beneficial relationship. Similarly Ballylinan, who probably benefitted being the top dog in Ballylinan/Glenmor. Shocking to see how bad they've both become.
After watching the dross of the last number of weeks, I'm undecided about the future structure of the Championship. My current thinking is that it doesn't really matter. Football in this county is in a pathetic state right now, and in many ways we just need to rip up the blueprint (whatever the f**k that is) and start afresh. There's very little we can do that will help our situation short term
The Killeshin and Crettyard juvenile amalgamation only broke up in 2019
Are you seriously suggesting that it has had an impact on the fortunes of their adult teams already?
Indeed I am. It's not just about the players on the pitch. It's about the struggles it created in the club itself. It genuinely caused a rift and they're struggling
I was always impressed with the teams and preparation of Crettyard/Killeshin. It seemed to me to be a very good arrangement. They should knock their heads together and try to reignite it. Just my opinion but the production line was definitely working for both clubs
On championship big guns, I think Joe's have a decent chance. Port have Byrne lad home to win championship for them brings its own pressure. Also Portlaoise + graigue improving with each outing, looking forward to two interesting semi finals. On county board I'd like to see 5/6 lads ala Michael duignan in Offaly coup to sort out our medium/long term in the county.
Quote from: High Fielder on August 24, 2022, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on August 24, 2022, 09:33:13 AM
Quote from: High Fielder on August 24, 2022, 08:34:42 AM
Unfortunately, competitive doesn't mean it's any good. Let's be honest with ourselves here. It's a very poor standard of football being played, and Portarlington have obviously decided that they can phase their preparation in line with the latter stages of the Championship. Based on what they did last year, that should work for them, because the other teams are very, very ordinary imo.
The relegation decider should be a warning to club executives about prematurely ending good underage relations. Killeshin have disimproved since ending their relationship with Crettyard; and it was a mutually beneficial relationship. Similarly Ballylinan, who probably benefitted being the top dog in Ballylinan/Glenmor. Shocking to see how bad they've both become.
After watching the dross of the last number of weeks, I'm undecided about the future structure of the Championship. My current thinking is that it doesn't really matter. Football in this county is in a pathetic state right now, and in many ways we just need to rip up the blueprint (whatever the f**k that is) and start afresh. There's very little we can do that will help our situation short term
The Killeshin and Crettyard juvenile amalgamation only broke up in 2019
Are you seriously suggesting that it has had an impact on the fortunes of their adult teams already?
Indeed I am. It's not just about the players on the pitch. It's about the struggles it created in the club itself. It genuinely caused a rift and they're struggling
I was always impressed with the teams and preparation of Crettyard/Killeshin. It seemed to me to be a very good arrangement. They should knock their heads together and try to reignite it. Just my opinion but the production line was definitely working for both clubs
I find it remarkable that an amalgamation which broke up 3 years ago would have such a sudden impact on senior players?
You do realise that Crettyard are now in yet another amalgamation,they were part of Na Fianna and left it to go into another amalgamation
Are you suggesting they walk out of this one,their third in 4 years also?
You conveniently ignored my point about the harm done to the club and not just the players. But that's what you do. Crettyard should do whatever they feel is best for their club. As should Killeshin. I thought they had a good thing going. Both of them. In my opinion it's a pity.
As to your point about Crettyard walking in and out of amalgamations, and I'm not aiming this at you Clonadmad, but that is absolutely shocking, and yes I'm aware of it. Our CB should be ashamed for sanctioning such a lax approach. I wonder did they try and intervene when the initial split took place? Or are they happy to sanction short term amalgamations? Makes you wonder what their criteria is for sanctioning any amalgamation. They have after all turned down some
Quote from: High Fielder on August 24, 2022, 08:34:42 AM
Unfortunately, competitive doesn't mean it's any good. Let's be honest with ourselves here. It's a very poor standard of football being played, and Portarlington have obviously decided that they can phase their preparation in line with the latter stages of the Championship. Based on what they did last year, that should work for them, because the other teams are very, very ordinary imo.
The relegation decider should be a warning to club executives about prematurely ending good underage relations. Killeshin have disimproved since ending their relationship with Crettyard; and it was a mutually beneficial relationship. Similarly Ballylinan, who probably benefitted being the top dog in Ballylinan/Glenmor. Shocking to see how bad they've both become.
After watching the dross of the last number of weeks, I'm undecided about the future structure of the Championship. My current thinking is that it doesn't really matter. Football in this county is in a pathetic state right now, and in many ways we just need to rip up the blueprint (whatever the f**k that is) and start afresh. There's very little we can do that will help our situation short term
How many of the teams do you think are up to senior standard ? I'm saying 6 and at a big push I'd say 8
Quote from: High Fielder on August 24, 2022, 10:55:17 AM
You conveniently ignored my point about the harm done to the club and not just the players. But that's what you do. Crettyard should do whatever they feel is best for their club. As should Killeshin. I thought they had a good thing going. Both of them. In my opinion it's a pity.
As to your point about Crettyard walking in and out of amalgamations, and I'm not aiming this at you Clonadmad, but that is absolutely shocking, and yes I'm aware of it. Our CB should be ashamed for sanctioning such a lax approach. I wonder did they try and intervene when the initial split took place? Or are they happy to sanction short term amalgamations? Makes you wonder what their criteria is for sanctioning any amalgamation. They have after all turned down some
"But that's what you do"
Less of the ad hominem lad
It might serve you a lot better
If that club has done any harm,it's been self inflicted
The reality is that any club that walks in and out of 3 full juvenile amalgamations in 4 years needs to seriously have a look at itself
As for the county board they stand guilty for allowing this incessant bed hopping in both codes
always the county boards fault isnt it.
The Laois county board need to shift the focus from League to Championship long term for starters. Would I be right in saying that any side playing Division 1 football would have played 10+ (if not more) league games this year?
Surely by removing an unhealthy amount of league games and giving players more championship games, it would be a good starting point for one.
I would echo the above statements regarding the state of the Senior Championship, half of the sides in it are cannon fodder and are only senior teams in name.
I wouldn't necessarily lay much blame at the feet of these clubs because many are small rural villages/parish teams who are merely year on year making up the numbers.
We've all lost count at how times this has been said on here by posters, that mirroring the Kerry Championship is the way to go. Until we follow suit, we will continue to have a poor product (Laois Senior Championship) that impacts the Intermediate Championship, Junior Championship and most importantly the Laois inter county team.
Lets take Paul Kingston and Evan O'Carroll, two expectational players in my opinion. No disrespect to Killeen or Crettyard but could you imagine the level of player for the most part that they're not only playing alongside but training against when the inter county season is over within their club?
Hypothetically speaking, if Killeen joined with Barrowhouse and Kilcruise to play in the Laois Senior Championship with a squad of the best 20-25 players picked. Not only would Paul be getting tested more in training but you would see his true potential a lot more on the field at club level. The same would apply to Evan if Crettyard joined with Killeshin or Ballylinan.
Again, in order to ensure clubs like Killeen, Kilcruise, Barrowhouse never die you would incorporate these clubs as separate entities in an Intermediate or Junior Championship. But allow the amalgamated sides to play in a Senior Championship under the same name they would use at Juvenile level.
Then your traditional big clubs like Portlaoise, Port, Graigue, St Josephs, Stradbally etc who are all strong enough to go solo would play in a separate Senior Championship with no amalgamations allowed. You would of course then have your big hitters playing in another Senior Championship against your amalgamations also.
1) 8 Team Laois Senior Championship (2 Groups of 4 teams) The winner represents Laois in Leinster as no amalgamated sides would be allowed.
2) 12 Team Laois Senior Championship (3 groups of 4 teams) with 4 amalgamated sides allowed. In theory you would have the 8 sides above + 4 new teams. Lowest finishing sole senior side gets relegated to intermediate.
There's 27 football only clubs in the county according to Laois today on their podcast yesterday and there's 16 senior teams
Cut it to 8 in senior,intermediate,junior A and B
Kerry have 3 times the number of registered players that Laois have
It's comparing apples with oranges on that one fact alone
Quote from: thegreeenandgold on August 23, 2022, 07:48:13 AM
It's that time of the year where Josephs get all excited before exiting in a heroic two point defeat. Graigue think they are back but that's every year since 1965. Ballyroanabbey talk about 92. O Dempsey's are just O Dempsey's. Courtwood and St Man's realize they are just making up the numbers. Portlaoise dream of the good old days and Port win a 3rd County in a row.
Laois Championship and we love it
I've read this 3 times and there's not a word of a lie in any of it!!😃
Quote from: Pugwash on August 24, 2022, 12:36:22 PM
The Laois county board need to shift the focus from League to Championship long term for starters. Would I be right in saying that any side playing Division 1 football would have played 10+ (if not more) league games this year?
Surely by removing an unhealthy amount of league games and giving players more championship games, it would be a good starting point for one.
I would echo the above statements regarding the state of the Senior Championship, half of the sides in it are cannon fodder and are only senior teams in name.
I wouldn't necessarily lay much blame at the feet of these clubs because many are small rural villages/parish teams who are merely year on year making up the numbers.
We've all lost count at how times this has been said on here by posters, that mirroring the Kerry Championship is the way to go. Until we follow suit, we will continue to have a poor product (Laois Senior Championship) that impacts the Intermediate Championship, Junior Championship and most importantly the Laois inter county team.
Lets take Paul Kingston and Evan O'Carroll, two expectational players in my opinion. No disrespect to Killeen or Crettyard but could you imagine the level of player for the most part that they're not only playing alongside but training against when the inter county season is over within their club?
Hypothetically speaking, if Killeen joined with Barrowhouse and Kilcruise to play in the Laois Senior Championship with a squad of the best 20-25 players picked. Not only would Paul be getting tested more in training but you would see his true potential a lot more on the field at club level. The same would apply to Evan if Crettyard joined with Killeshin or Ballylinan.
Again, in order to ensure clubs like Killeen, Kilcruise, Barrowhouse never die you would incorporate these clubs as separate entities in an Intermediate or Junior Championship. But allow the amalgamated sides to play in a Senior Championship under the same name they would use at Juvenile level.
Then your traditional big clubs like Portlaoise, Port, Graigue, St Josephs, Stradbally etc who are all strong enough to go solo would play in a separate Senior Championship with no amalgamations allowed. You would of course then have your big hitters playing in another Senior Championship against your amalgamations also.
1) 8 Team Laois Senior Championship (2 Groups of 4 teams) The winner represents Laois in Leinster as no amalgamated sides would be allowed.
2) 12 Team Laois Senior Championship (3 groups of 4 teams) with 4 amalgamated sides allowed. In theory you would have the 8 sides above + 4 new teams. Lowest finishing sole senior side gets relegated to intermediate.
Nah. We're not Kerry. Small county; no need for area teams.
Why don't we encourage clubs to follow likes of park, cortwood, ballyroan, clonaslee and rosneallis.invest in juvenile set-ups, build up gradually and when the time is right you'll go up.
Some of those clubs have enjoyed mutually beneficial juv arrangements that served all parties. More of that, less bed-hopping.
Divisions of 8-12 with 2xgroups of 4-6.
Do it over one year. Too many clubs will object though so need a co board to just drill it through. Maybe then when some clubs find themselves inter or even junior they'll think about parish teams and amalgamations.
Quote from: The Saint on August 24, 2022, 01:12:28 PM
Quote from: thegreeenandgold on August 23, 2022, 07:48:13 AM
It's that time of the year where Josephs get all excited before exiting in a heroic two point defeat. Graigue think they are back but that's every year since 1965. Ballyroanabbey talk about 92. O Dempsey's are just O Dempsey's. Courtwood and St Man's realize they are just making up the numbers. Portlaoise dream of the good old days and Port win a 3rd County in a row.
Laois Championship and we love it
I've read this 3 times and there's not a word of a lie in any of it!!😃
In a nutshell . Port have all this planned to perfection.
In Kerry only 8 clubs take part in the senior football championship along with the 8 regional sides. There are 60 odd football clubs in Kerry. In Laois 16 clubs play in the senior football championship and we have only 27ish football clubs in the county. It's madness how Laois football is structured. It's no surprise then when you see Kerry teams repeatedly winning All-ireland Junior and intermediate titles-and these clubs are thrilled to win these titles and it brings great pride, exciting and joy to these clubs and parishes. I see Kerry are actively looking at tweaking their structures slightly again regarding their championships to maximise the quality of them. They establish review committees at the end of each year to identify how they can improve things going forward.
We probably need to forget about structural changes because the dinosaurs simply won't vote for them. The majority of clubs in Senior are probably no better than Intermediate standard anyway, so being able to call themselves Senior is where the actual currency lies.
It's sad to say, but we've created something absolutely of no use to us as a county with our structures. And you have this bizarre situation whereby the same club delegates will vote against meaningful change because it benefits their clubs; and simultaneously piss and moan about how poor our county teams are. Create some competition ffs. Force the bigger clubs to become better instead of thinking they can hoover up county titles - Port and Portlaoise before them. Get away from this ridiculous scenario whereby teams, and there are so many of them in Laois, are happy to win one game just so they can call themselves a Senior football club. It's a meaningless tag in a county going absolutely nowhere. We need to work out what's more important to us, and fast. What we have right now is a low grade, unproductive and maybe Portarlington aside, low in quality Championship
Quote from: Robbo on August 24, 2022, 01:26:48 PM
Quote from: Pugwash on August 24, 2022, 12:36:22 PM
The Laois county board need to shift the focus from League to Championship long term for starters. Would I be right in saying that any side playing Division 1 football would have played 10+ (if not more) league games this year?
Surely by removing an unhealthy amount of league games and giving players more championship games, it would be a good starting point for one.
I would echo the above statements regarding the state of the Senior Championship, half of the sides in it are cannon fodder and are only senior teams in name.
I wouldn't necessarily lay much blame at the feet of these clubs because many are small rural villages/parish teams who are merely year on year making up the numbers.
We've all lost count at how times this has been said on here by posters, that mirroring the Kerry Championship is the way to go. Until we follow suit, we will continue to have a poor product (Laois Senior Championship) that impacts the Intermediate Championship, Junior Championship and most importantly the Laois inter county team.
Lets take Paul Kingston and Evan O'Carroll, two expectational players in my opinion. No disrespect to Killeen or Crettyard but could you imagine the level of player for the most part that they're not only playing alongside but training against when the inter county season is over within their club?
Hypothetically speaking, if Killeen joined with Barrowhouse and Kilcruise to play in the Laois Senior Championship with a squad of the best 20-25 players picked. Not only would Paul be getting tested more in training but you would see his true potential a lot more on the field at club level. The same would apply to Evan if Crettyard joined with Killeshin or Ballylinan.
Again, in order to ensure clubs like Killeen, Kilcruise, Barrowhouse never die you would incorporate these clubs as separate entities in an Intermediate or Junior Championship. But allow the amalgamated sides to play in a Senior Championship under the same name they would use at Juvenile level.
Then your traditional big clubs like Portlaoise, Port, Graigue, St Josephs, Stradbally etc who are all strong enough to go solo would play in a separate Senior Championship with no amalgamations allowed. You would of course then have your big hitters playing in another Senior Championship against your amalgamations also.
1) 8 Team Laois Senior Championship (2 Groups of 4 teams) The winner represents Laois in Leinster as no amalgamated sides would be allowed.
2) 12 Team Laois Senior Championship (3 groups of 4 teams) with 4 amalgamated sides allowed. In theory you would have the 8 sides above + 4 new teams. Lowest finishing sole senior side gets relegated to intermediate.
Nah. We're not Kerry. Small county; no need for area teams.
Why don't we encourage clubs to follow likes of park, cortwood, ballyroan, clonaslee and rosneallis.invest in juvenile set-ups, build up gradually and when the time is right you'll go up.
Some of those clubs have enjoyed mutually beneficial juv arrangements that served all parties. More of that, less bed-hopping.
Divisions of 8-12 with 2xgroups of 4-6.
Do it over one year. Too many clubs will object though so need a co board to just drill it through. Maybe then when some clubs find themselves inter or even junior they'll think about parish teams and amalgamations.
The highlighted sentence is the one I have most issue with.
We have a small county but about half the county has no access to senior club football. Its even more crucial in a county like Laois to maximise all resources and have a pathway to senior club football available.
Your argument that 'park, cortwood, ballyroan, clonaslee and rosneallis.(should) invest in juvenile set-ups' is laughable as these are clubs who actually do this already. Effort is not the issue. The problem is that these clubs reach senior every couple of generations. The rest of the time their effort is the same but the population/numbers/talent is not present to sustain senior football. This is where the regional senior teams would benefit the clubs we have without forcing clubs into amalgamations.
GAA clubs have more than one aim. They are about more than just having a senior team. Of course they want to play at the highest level but very few will sacrifice their identity and social focal point for this. In a regional set-up these clubs would be promoted to senior when they are good enough however when they are not at that level their best players can stay with home club and join with other designated clubs to challenge Portlaoise, Portarlington etc. for senior championships. This would increase the quality of the championship and deepen the talent pool for our county panel.
If Kerry didnt have area teams where would David Clifford be now?
1. Playing for Kerry but Not playing with Fossa (his home club)
or
2. Playing for Fossa but frustrated and nowhere near his potential
or
3. Not playing at all?
Why are we so afraid of change?
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on August 25, 2022, 09:35:32 AM
Quote from: Robbo on August 24, 2022, 01:26:48 PM
Quote from: Pugwash on August 24, 2022, 12:36:22 PM
The Laois county board need to shift the focus from League to Championship long term for starters. Would I be right in saying that any side playing Division 1 football would have played 10+ (if not more) league games this year?
Surely by removing an unhealthy amount of league games and giving players more championship games, it would be a good starting point for one.
I would echo the above statements regarding the state of the Senior Championship, half of the sides in it are cannon fodder and are only senior teams in name.
I wouldn't necessarily lay much blame at the feet of these clubs because many are small rural villages/parish teams who are merely year on year making up the numbers.
We've all lost count at how times this has been said on here by posters, that mirroring the Kerry Championship is the way to go. Until we follow suit, we will continue to have a poor product (Laois Senior Championship) that impacts the Intermediate Championship, Junior Championship and most importantly the Laois inter county team.
Lets take Paul Kingston and Evan O'Carroll, two expectational players in my opinion. No disrespect to Killeen or Crettyard but could you imagine the level of player for the most part that they're not only playing alongside but training against when the inter county season is over within their club?
Hypothetically speaking, if Killeen joined with Barrowhouse and Kilcruise to play in the Laois Senior Championship with a squad of the best 20-25 players picked. Not only would Paul be getting tested more in training but you would see his true potential a lot more on the field at club level. The same would apply to Evan if Crettyard joined with Killeshin or Ballylinan.
Again, in order to ensure clubs like Killeen, Kilcruise, Barrowhouse never die you would incorporate these clubs as separate entities in an Intermediate or Junior Championship. But allow the amalgamated sides to play in a Senior Championship under the same name they would use at Juvenile level.
Then your traditional big clubs like Portlaoise, Port, Graigue, St Josephs, Stradbally etc who are all strong enough to go solo would play in a separate Senior Championship with no amalgamations allowed. You would of course then have your big hitters playing in another Senior Championship against your amalgamations also.
1) 8 Team Laois Senior Championship (2 Groups of 4 teams) The winner represents Laois in Leinster as no amalgamated sides would be allowed.
2) 12 Team Laois Senior Championship (3 groups of 4 teams) with 4 amalgamated sides allowed. In theory you would have the 8 sides above + 4 new teams. Lowest finishing sole senior side gets relegated to intermediate.
Nah. We're not Kerry. Small county; no need for area teams.
Why don't we encourage clubs to follow likes of park, cortwood, ballyroan, clonaslee and rosneallis.invest in juvenile set-ups, build up gradually and when the time is right you'll go up.
Some of those clubs have enjoyed mutually beneficial juv arrangements that served all parties. More of that, less bed-hopping.
Divisions of 8-12 with 2xgroups of 4-6.
Do it over one year. Too many clubs will object though so need a co board to just drill it through. Maybe then when some clubs find themselves inter or even junior they'll think about parish teams and amalgamations.
The highlighted sentence is the one I have most issue with.
We have a small county but about half the county has no access to senior club football. Its even more crucial in a county like Laois to maximise all resources and have a pathway to senior club football available.
Your argument that 'park, cortwood, ballyroan, clonaslee and rosneallis.(should) invest in juvenile set-ups' is laughable as these are clubs who actually do this already. Effort is not the issue. The problem is that these clubs reach senior every couple of generations. The rest of the time their effort is the same but the population/numbers/talent is not present to sustain senior football. This is where the regional senior teams would benefit the clubs we have without forcing clubs into amalgamations.
GAA clubs have more than one aim. They are about more than just having a senior team. Of course they want to play at the highest level but very few will sacrifice their identity and social focal point for this. In a regional set-up these clubs would be promoted to senior when they are good enough however when they are not at that level their best players can stay with home club and join with other designated clubs to challenge Portlaoise, Portarlington etc. for senior championships. This would increase the quality of the championship and deepen the talent pool for our county panel.
If Kerry didnt have area teams where would David Clifford be now?
1. Playing for Kerry but Not playing with Fossa (his home club)
or
2. Playing for Fossa but frustrated and nowhere near his potential
or
3. Not playing at all?
Why are we so afraid of change?
Fantastic post.
Absolutely nailed on Speculative Effort
Messed up the quote but you said:
Your argument that 'park, cortwood, ballyroan, clonaslee and rosneallis.(should) invest in juvenile set-ups' is laughable as these are clubs who actually do this already.
Read it again please. Laughable that you thought I was slagging these clubs off. There the exact clubs I think would be punished by area teams.
In Laois if clubs put their heads down and get structures right they'll be senior within 10-15 years. Courtwood did it by good structures with emo in St Pauls. Rosenallis did it in both codes. Park have done it. Go back years, Castletown went fron junior to nearly leinster champions in hurling. Ballacolla from inter to senior champs in 10.
Look, I'm actually not disagreeing with a lot of what your saying. We want teams competing at a level that.encourages them to put best structures in place at juvenile and adult level.
I just think area teams are potentially a cop-out and clubs who are currently getting away with doing the minimum will continue to do so as there good lads will be sorted by area teams. I think if we cut the teams competing at senior then some teams will need to have a hard look at themselves.
My other issue with area teams is that smallish clubs who do the right things will have there chances of winning senior taken away forever. Ballyfin were in a semi a couple of years ago, last 4 in laois. Would that have been possible if they had ran into an Arles Gaels or St Pauls amalgam?
You want area teams so the best players get exposure to senior. Fair enough.
I want less teams at senior grades and clubs are forced to comit to developing higher quality players. Clubs that do wil achieve success, those that don't will need to have a look at themselves and see how sustainable they are.
In the interests of fairness, the David Clifford argument is compelling.
These smaller teams going Senior is great, but as a county, we get very little from them. In fact, I think it says more about the overall poor standard to see smaller teams punching above their weight. It's a false picture.
No disrespect to any team out there, but I'd like the Laois champions to be as strong as Port were last year and Portlaoise were in previous years. I want to see the standards raised, not lowered to accommodate smaller clubs. That's the cycle we're in at the moment and yes, 10-15 years good work might get you up to Senior in Laois. It doesn't mean, and it hasn't meant, that these players are good enough to play for the County.
All blabber go to a county convention if you want change other than that ideas are a waste of time
If change is to happen in this county, my change, Robbos change, Speculative Efforts change, whoever, it's far away from those dingy corridors where it will happen. The CBs stranglehold on this county is to the detriment of our wellbeing. Those who haven't got a vested interest know that
Robbo in fairness I agree with a lot of what you say also. I just think that only certain generations in some clubs are capable of playing senior by themselves. When they are not capable as a unit then they can play as part of an area team. When they strong again they will be promoted and compete at senior again. Yes area teams will raise the bar and make it more difficult for small clubs to be senior but surely that's the point. Every clubs ambition should be to be running at as close to potential as possible. Then if that lands them in senior, intermediate or junior then so be it. If a club (same as a player) is genuinely managing to run close to potential and this is the lens that they view the club through then we would be doing very well. In that situation being intermediate might hold value. At the minute the badge of senior is almost worthless. The currency is destroyed. You suggest clubs might take the handy way out and let stronger lads on to play with area team. If that is the attitude of clubs in this system then their attitude wont be any better in a different system.
I think we both agree that the most important element of raising standards is to have each club well organised and progressive. I would cut the clubs in senior championship also but add area teams. Its easy to say this and it might even be approved at some stage but there needs to be a system put in place for them to survive and thrive. Without a system and building the system it would die within years and never be considered again. Attitudes need to change.
Quote from: High Fielder on August 25, 2022, 02:03:45 PM
If change is to happen in this county, my change, Robbos change, Speculative Efforts change, whoever, it's far away from those dingy corridors where it will happen. The CBs stranglehold on this county is to the detriment of our wellbeing. Those who haven't got a vested interest know that
change will happen on teh internet. sure. go away out of that will you. and anyone using david clifford for an argument fails to take into acocunt that clifford is the exception to every footballing rule. he is a freak who would make it no matter where you landed him. fair play to port for getting their house in order. o dempseys too are doing it, so are josephs, and ballyroan. some lads always wanna run others down. if it wasnt for the internet theyd be in a pub somewhere shouting and bawling. safer theyre in here.
Still trolling I see. Pathetic. DM me if you have an issue. Otherwise quit your trolling. Change is badly needed in this county, just like it was in Offaly. Our CB continue to mess up everything associated with Laois GAA. For all I know you could be one of them. You certainly carry on like you have an interest in keeping the status quo
Quote from: High Fielder on August 25, 2022, 02:03:45 PM
If change is to happen in this county, my change, Robbos change, Speculative Efforts change, whoever, it's far away from those dingy corridors where it will happen. The CBs stranglehold on this county is to the detriment of our wellbeing. Those who haven't got a vested interest know that
Christ where does one start with this
Here's the reality the County Board controls and implements the running of Gaelic games within the county
If you want to make a change,you can come up with and get a motion passed by your club and then have it voted on by county convention at the end of the year
Are you suggesting a peoples liberation front of Laois county board to effect change ?
Laughable if you are
Quote from: High Fielder on August 25, 2022, 05:59:27 PM
Still trolling I see. Pathetic. DM me if you have an issue. Otherwise quit your trolling. Change is badly needed in this county, just like it was in Offaly. Our CB continue to mess up everything associated with Laois GAA. For all I know you could be one of them. You certainly carry on like you have an interest in keeping the status quo
Are you a club member?
If so,put your name forward at your Agm to become county board delegate and effect change from within
Attacking lads on the internet is not the way to achieve your aims
Who is the new hurling coach??
I wouldn't be the person to tell you that Laois man. The hurling thread seemed to imply it was Ryan O'Dwyer.
What has any of this got to do with our club championship
This is the senior football championship thread?
Just an idea and let me know what everyone thinks, If the county board implements something like this next year 2023 Championship I think the senior championship needs more than 8 teams, so how about the 4 teams that lose the first two games are relegated down to senior B (Intermediate) harsh I know but every game would be fair competitive next year if we are to get the number of teams down I think its the only way that way you'll have far more competitive championships.
Senior Championship 2024
Senior 12 teams: 2 x Groups of 6
The top 1 of each group goes to semi-final
Teams in 3rd and 4th each groups play the quarter-final against other groups 3rd and 4th
Teams 5th and 6th Relegation semi-final against 5th and 6th in other group
With one team relegated.
Now I haven't gone into detail about senior B and Intermediate just trying to think of shaking it up, Because no matter what we say there is no way the county board are going down the amalgamation route.
Would this work or are there faults??
As I said its just an idea so no having a go.
There are some really obvious looking potential amalgamations out there. It would be great to see one of them doing what Rathdowney Errill or Colt Shanahoe did.
You have Stradbally Timahoe and Annanough, Courtwood and Emo, Ballylinan and the 2 Arles clubs, Mountmellick, Kilcavan and The Rock, Killeshin and Crettyard.
Very true Ballybrittas Boy, If you remember the u21 championships years ago was mostly amalgamations teams, The Rock, Rosenallis, Mountmellick, Clonaslee, and Kilcavan they won an u21A title, I think if they tried it out with a u21 Championship style and see how that went would be great to see.
Could you imagine if Clonaslee, Rosenallis Ballyfin joined up for senior football would or could they challenge the top teams.
Saying that I think the Borris Kilcotton amalgamation is coming to an end by all accounts just word on the grape vine.
Quote from: Tintin84 on August 26, 2022, 10:36:58 AM
Very true Ballybrittas Boy, If you remember the u21 championships years ago was mostly amalgamations teams, The Rock, Rosenallis, Mountmellick, Clonaslee, and Kilcavan they won an u21A title, I think if they tried it out with a u21 Championship style and see how that went would be great to see.
Could you imagine if Clonaslee, Rosenallis Ballyfin joined up for senior football would or could they challenge the top teams.
Saying that I think the Borris Kilcotton amalgamation is coming to an end by all accounts just word on the grape vine.
Personally speaking, I would be against seeing 4 or 5 clubs join together to create an amalgamated side especially if a couple of teams are already operating at senior level.
In an ideal world you would cap it at 3 clubs maximum per amalgamation.
This in turn would then allow a number of clubs to have a healthy number of players on each panel thus benefiting everybody.
Quote from: Ballybrittas Boy on August 26, 2022, 10:24:48 AM
There are some really obvious looking potential amalgamations out there. It would be great to see one of them doing what Rathdowney Errill or Colt Shanahoe did.
You have Stradbally Timahoe and Annanough, Courtwood and Emo, Ballylinan and the 2 Arles clubs, Mountmellick, Kilcavan and The Rock, Killeshin and Crettyard.
it's a great idea and the way to go but if someone can persuade one parish in particular to amalgamate at senior level that person should be on the first plane to Kiev to negotiate peace talks .
templenoe into a Kerry county final. A junior b side less than 10 years ago. Some lads here would of had them disbanded or amalgamated into some parish team and laughed at them tryin to play Senior on their own
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on August 25, 2022, 03:31:48 PM
Robbo in fairness I agree with a lot of what you say also. I just think that only certain generations in some clubs are capable of playing senior by themselves. When they are not capable as a unit then they can play as part of an area team. When they strong again they will be promoted and compete at senior again. Yes area teams will raise the bar and make it more difficult for small clubs to be senior but surely that's the point. Every clubs ambition should be to be running at as close to potential as possible. Then if that lands them in senior, intermediate or junior then so be it. If a club (same as a player) is genuinely managing to run close to potential and this is the lens that they view the club through then we would be doing very well. In that situation being intermediate might hold value. At the minute the badge of senior is almost worthless. The currency is destroyed. You suggest clubs might take the handy way out and let stronger lads on to play with area team. If that is the attitude of clubs in this system then their attitude wont be any better in a different system.
I think we both agree that the most important element of raising standards is to have each club well organised and progressive. I would cut the clubs in senior championship also but add area teams. Its easy to say this and it might even be approved at some stage but there needs to be a system put in place for them to survive and thrive. Without a system and building the system it would die within years and never be considered again. Attitudes need to change.
Quote from: georgedoylesrightleg on August 27, 2022, 10:27:19 PM
templenoe into a Kerry county final. A junior b side less than 10 years ago. Some lads here would of had them disbanded or amalgamated into some parish team and laughed at them tryin to play Senior on their own
Templnoe are into the Kerry club final which is different to the Kerry county final.
Kerry have a club championship and a county championship.
Templnoe have only been a senior club since 2020.
Prior to that the best Templnoe players would have been playing in the Kerry County Championship as part of a Kenmare District team which would be an amalgamated team.
I would say if anything this is evidence of the superiority of the Kerry structures and the advantages of having divisional teams.
A little bit off topic but would someone from Ballyroan on this forum be able to tell me how many of the Ballyroan senior panel are from Abbeyleix or are the majority of them from Ballyroan ?
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 29, 2022, 10:16:15 AM
Quote from: georgedoylesrightleg on August 27, 2022, 10:27:19 PM
templenoe into a Kerry county final. A junior b side less than 10 years ago. Some lads here would of had them disbanded or amalgamated into some parish team and laughed at them tryin to play Senior on their own
Templnoe are into the Kerry club final which is different to the Kerry county final.
Kerry have a club championship and a county championship.
Templnoe have only been a senior club since 2020.
Prior to that the best Templnoe players would have been playing in the Kerry County Championship as part of a Kenmare District team which would be an amalgamated team.
I would say if anything this is evidence of the superiority of the Kerry structures and the advantages of having divisional teams.
disagree. laois hve no divisional so not relevant. templenoe in laois woulda been told to amalgamate to give their good players a chance play higher. or the players poached by other clubs.
The CB sanctioned the poaching of players when it suited them and tried to block the ones that didn't, at great expense. I also seem to remember an article written by the County Secretary asking clubs to think seriously about amalgamations. He must have thought the chances of a Templenoe or Kilcruise happening soon or again was nigh on impossible. And he was right then as others above are now. We've dropped to a ridiculously bad level. There are no Templenoes in Laois
Quote from: Laoiseabu on August 29, 2022, 01:59:35 PM
A little bit off topic but would someone from Ballyroan on this forum be able to tell me how many of the Ballyroan senior panel are from Abbeyleix or are the majority of them from Ballyroan ?
I think Mark Cahill, Lawson Obular and Cathal Doyle are all Abbeyleix lads. After that I'm not too sure but I would assume the lads with the surnames Whelan, Gee and McWey are all Ballyroan.
Quote from: georgedoylesrightleg on August 29, 2022, 02:09:18 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 29, 2022, 10:16:15 AM
Quote from: georgedoylesrightleg on August 27, 2022, 10:27:19 PM
templenoe into a Kerry county final. A junior b side less than 10 years ago. Some lads here would of had them disbanded or amalgamated into some parish team and laughed at them tryin to play Senior on their own
Templnoe are into the Kerry club final which is different to the Kerry county final.
Kerry have a club championship and a county championship.
Templnoe have only been a senior club since 2020.
Prior to that the best Templnoe players would have been playing in the Kerry County Championship as part of a Kenmare District team which would be an amalgamated team.
I would say if anything this is evidence of the superiority of the Kerry structures and the advantages of having divisional teams.
disagree. laois hve no divisional so not relevant. templenoe in laois woulda been told to amalgamate to give their good players a chance play higher. or the players poached by other clubs.
The point I was making is that in Kerry it's not an either/or situation.
There's 2 countywide championships - the club championship and the county championship.
Every player plays with his club in the club championship and every player who is not with a senior club can play with a divisional side if they get selected for it (players from senior clubs playe with them in the county championship).
It would be interesting to do a survey of Laois club players to see how they would feel about a similar dual championship structure.
Quote from: High Fielder on August 29, 2022, 03:25:43 PM
The CB sanctioned the poaching of players when it suited them and tried to block the ones that didn't, at great expense. I also seem to remember an article written by the County Secretary asking clubs to think seriously about amalgamations. He must have thought the chances of a Templenoe or Kilcruise happening soon or again was nigh on impossible. And he was right then as others above are now. We've dropped to a ridiculously bad level. There are no Templenoes in Laois
be no fear of a templenoe wit your attitude
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 29, 2022, 04:12:54 PM
Quote from: georgedoylesrightleg on August 29, 2022, 02:09:18 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 29, 2022, 10:16:15 AM
Quote from: georgedoylesrightleg on August 27, 2022, 10:27:19 PM
templenoe into a Kerry county final. A junior b side less than 10 years ago. Some lads here would of had them disbanded or amalgamated into some parish team and laughed at them tryin to play Senior on their own
Templnoe are into the Kerry club final which is different to the Kerry county final.
Kerry have a club championship and a county championship.
Templnoe have only been a senior club since 2020.
Prior to that the best Templnoe players would have been playing in the Kerry County Championship as part of a Kenmare District team which would be an amalgamated team.
I would say if anything this is evidence of the superiority of the Kerry structures and the advantages of having divisional teams.
disagree. laois hve no divisional so not relevant. templenoe in laois woulda been told to amalgamate to give their good players a chance play higher. or the players poached by other clubs.
The point I was making is that in Kerry it's not an either/or situation.
There's 2 countywide championships - the club championship and the county championship.
Every player plays with his club in the club championship and every player who is not with a senior club can play with a divisional side if they get selected for it (players from senior clubs playe with them in the county championship).
It would be interesting to do a survey of Laois club players to see how they would feel about a similar dual championship structure.
it is an either or sutuation in laois. bring in a divisional side or 2, be grand. but the lad shere who mock small clubs trying to do their best would sicken yor hole.
Quote from: georgedoylesrightleg on August 29, 2022, 04:48:35 PM
Quote from: High Fielder on August 29, 2022, 03:25:43 PM
The CB sanctioned the poaching of players when it suited them and tried to block the ones that didn't, at great expense. I also seem to remember an article written by the County Secretary asking clubs to think seriously about amalgamations. He must have thought the chances of a Templenoe or Kilcruise happening soon or again was nigh on impossible. And he was right then as others above are now. We've dropped to a ridiculously bad level. There are no Templenoes in Laois
be no fear of a templenoe wit your attitude
And absolutely zero chance of change with yours. Templenoe indeed. Laughable really. This is Laois pal
Quote from: georgedoylesrightleg on August 29, 2022, 04:49:37 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 29, 2022, 04:12:54 PM
Quote from: georgedoylesrightleg on August 29, 2022, 02:09:18 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 29, 2022, 10:16:15 AM
Quote from: georgedoylesrightleg on August 27, 2022, 10:27:19 PM
templenoe into a Kerry county final. A junior b side less than 10 years ago. Some lads here would of had them disbanded or amalgamated into some parish team and laughed at them tryin to play Senior on their own
Templnoe are into the Kerry club final which is different to the Kerry county final.
Kerry have a club championship and a county championship.
Templnoe have only been a senior club since 2020.
Prior to that the best Templnoe players would have been playing in the Kerry County Championship as part of a Kenmare District team which would be an amalgamated team.
I would say if anything this is evidence of the superiority of the Kerry structures and the advantages of having divisional teams.
disagree. laois hve no divisional so not relevant. templenoe in laois woulda been told to amalgamate to give their good players a chance play higher. or the players poached by other clubs.
The point I was making is that in Kerry it's not an either/or situation.
There's 2 countywide championships - the club championship and the county championship.
Every player plays with his club in the club championship and every player who is not with a senior club can play with a divisional side if they get selected for it (players from senior clubs playe with them in the county championship).
It would be interesting to do a survey of Laois club players to see how they would feel about a similar dual championship structure.
it is an either or sutuation in laois. bring in a divisional side or 2, be grand. but the lad shere who mock small clubs trying to do their best would sicken yor hole.
More falsehoods. Nobody mocked smaller clubs. You really are the worst type of troll. Robbo and Speculative were having a good debate there. No mocking. Just a good exchange of ideas. Do remember that the CB secretary once asked that clubs think seriously about amalgamation. Remember that. It's important
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templenoe into a Kerry county final. A junior b side less than 10 years ago. Some lads here would of had them disbanded or amalgamated into some parish team and laughed at them tryin to play Senior on their own
Templnoe are into the Kerry club final which is different to the Kerry county final.
Kerry have a club championship and a county championship.
Templnoe have only been a senior club since 2020.
Prior to that the best Templnoe players would have been playing in the Kerry County Championship as part of a Kenmare District team which would be an amalgamated team.
I would say if anything this is evidence of the superiority of the Kerry structures and the advantages of having divisional teams.
disagree. laois hve no divisional so not relevant. templenoe in laois woulda been told to amalgamate to give their good players a chance play higher. or the players poached by other clubs.
The point I was making is that in Kerry it's not an either/or situation.
There's 2 countywide championships - the club championship and the county championship.
Every player plays with his club in the club championship and every player who is not with a senior club can play with a divisional side if they get selected for it (players from senior clubs playe with them in the county championship).
It would be interesting to do a survey of Laois club players to see how they would feel about a similar dual championship structure.
it is an either or sutuation in laois. bring in a divisional side or 2, be grand. but the lad shere who mock small clubs trying to do their best would sicken yor hole.
More falsehoods. Nobody mocked smaller clubs. You really are the worst type of troll. Robbo and Speculative were having a good debate there. No mocking. Just a good exchange of ideas. Do remember that the CB secretary once asked that clubs think seriously about amalgamation. Remember that. It's important
kilcavan werte mocked here before. rosenallis park clonaslee wood all mocked for being pretend senior clubs. It's all there. mock the clubs doing their best to improve. blame everything else on county board.
I can't have it that clubs were mocked on this forum. It wouldn't be allowed by admin or users for a start, and it's just not that sort of forum.
As for the CB, I myself would like to see them gone. Nothing personal you understand; just similar to what happened in Offaly. I don't like the decisions they make in general, and I don't think they're capable of improving our lot. It's just an opinion, but one I know that many people share. Obviously you don't, and that's fine by me too.
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A little bit off topic but would someone from Ballyroan on this forum be able to tell me how many of the Ballyroan senior panel are from Abbeyleix or are the majority of them from Ballyroan ?
I think Mark Cahill, Lawson Obular and Cathal Doyle are all Abbeyleix lads. After that I'm not too sure but I would assume the lads with the surnames Whelan, Gee and McWey are all Ballyroan.
Mark Cahill, Aaron Caroll, Aaron McEvoy, Lawson Obular all from Abbeylace..
Doyle from Ballyroan.
Mark Cahill, Aaron Caroll, Aaron McEvoy, Lawson Obular all from Abbeylace..
Doyle from Ballyroan.
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Abbeyleix would be probably a decent intermediate team by themselves
Ballyroan would be be basically where they were for the first 10 years of the amalgamation hoping between Senior and Intermediate
The lads that came through last year were probably the last of a good few successful underage teams, we would still get lads again but you won't have 7 or 8 Senior footballers off 1 team like that crop
Port in a way is a great draw for us because we are plenty talented enough, its games like this that have to be won or at least competitive in if a breakthrough is ever going to happen
I'd be confident that breakthrough will come if not this year in the next couple as there is a lot of momentum behind us since covid
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Mark Cahill, Aaron Caroll, Aaron McEvoy, Lawson Obular all from Abbeylace..
Doyle from Ballyroan.
Abbeyleix would be probably a decent intermediate team by themselves
Ballyroan would be be basically where they were for the first 10 years of the amalgamation hoping between Senior and Intermediate
The lads that came through last year were probably the last of a good few successful underage teams, we would still get lads again but you won't have 7 or 8 Senior footballers off 1 team like that crop
Port in a way is a great draw for us because we are plenty talented enough, its games like this that have to be won or at least competitive in if a breakthrough is ever going to happen
I'd be confident that breakthrough will come if not this year in the next couple as there is a lot of momentum behind us since covid
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I think ye probably needed to avoid Portlaoise after last year's meeting.
I expect ye to win a senior title in the next few years but ye would want to do it sooner rather than later because the likes of Joseph's are on the rise again at underage.
Looking forward to football quarter finals this weekend.
O'Dempseys v St Joseph's, hard to call,
Ballyroan v Port, I think Ballyroan are up for this game, expect fireworks,
Clonaslee to give Portlaoise a good rattle,
Courtwood v Graiguecullen ( Courtwood to cause a shock? )
Joes by 3
Port by 5
Portlaoise by 8
Graigue by 2
O'Dempsey's by 2
BA by 1
Portlaoise by 10
Graiguecullen by 6
Portlaoise v Clonaslee - Portlaoise by 4.... Clonaslee will be tough, but Portlaoise should have enough
O'Dempseys v St Joseph's - St Josephs by 2. I've liked the look of Josephs all year and now is their time to drive it on
Courtwood v Graigue - Graigue by 6+ Graigue second best team in the county and Courtwood won't bother them too much IMO
Port v Ballyroan - Port by 6+ Ballyroan will give Port all they want of it but in reality, Port are light years ahead of the rest...
Portlaoise by 5 after a definsive display by clonaslee who will be hard to break down
Graigcullen by 6-10 i just think they have too much and i agree are a good bet for the final
Joes by 6 i think they are due a semi final and o flatherty is the differance without him joes would be no further
Portarlington by 4 but a game that wont go there own way but i cant see past them just yet but the ballyabbey boys could surprise the county they have the talent
Portlaoise vs Clonaslee - Portlaoise by 5
O' Dempseys vs St Josephs - Draw, extra time, Josephs win on penalties
Courtwood vs Graiguecullen - Graigue by 7
Portarlington vs Ballyroan Abbey - Port by 5
Clonaslee by 3.
O'Ds by 1.
Graigue by 8
Port by 1
Great games to look forward to but the weather forecast is bad, lots of rain around and could make a big difference to the outcome of these games.
2 very bad match's this evening portlaoise good for 20 mins,,, o Dempseys will be delighted while joes once again poo there pants in championship football when will the local rags ever learn,,but there's one 5 week break team gone
I realy enjoyed the second game this evening between O'Dempseys and St. Joseph's.
It looked all over when O'Dempsey's were reduce to 14 players
in the second half. St. Joseph's took over and looked like winners and wemt 3
points ahead with only a few minutes to go but what a finish by
O'Dempsey's to score a goal and kick the last 3 points, O'Dempsey's are a nice team can they go all the way?
O Dempseys are as open as a bingo bus ,, o flaherty was injured that means joes are bang average,, young Hooney sure he missed 4 scores after joes went 3 up but look credit to o Dempseys kearns has them all going well but I wonder is Tin Tin happy 😃
This weather is awful, are the games going ahead today?
HONDAFUCKINGWOOD!
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Don't know Kevin personally but he sure could do with a few basic tips on management after doing an interview like that this week.
Graigue have very little to be sick about. Bar the missed penalty Courtwood were by far the better taem . Missed 5 or 6 easy frees struck the post twice. An old fella in front of me said thea if courtwood were bet it was their own fault. Ballyroan unlucky . Ref should have given them a chance to get a shot off before he blew it up i think
63mins when he blew the final whistle. They were moving in on goal then the guy with the ball started showboating and was going out the field. Dead right to blew it up
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63mins when he blew the final whistle. They were moving in on goal then the guy with the ball started showboating and was going out the field. Dead right to blew it up
Agreed. He gave them the chance. Marty Scully wouldn't take on the shot. Port will improve you'd imagine. Bracken's injury reduces their midfield dominance a lot.
In the other game, CW were far better but kicked a lot of wides to keep Graigue in it. Hit the post twice too although it should also be pointed out that Timmons missed penalty and only a brilliant last ditch tackle from Collins ugochukwu denied Brian Byrne a goal. Tyrell was very good.
Graigue and Josephs coming up short yet again. We really shouldn't be surprised. Clubs with far less numbers and resources seem to have more fight in the belly when the chips are down.
Port will hardly beat Portlaoise as easily as last year's county final the way both are playing? Still, it's Port's to loose.
The other semi should be close. Nice to see either of them in the final. If you'd offered both of them the scenario they are in this morning at the start of the year, they'd have jumped at it.
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Don't know Kevin personally but he sure could do with a few basic tips on management after doing an interview like that this week.
I wouldn't know him either but I think picking one little throwaway phrase in a long interview and using it as the headline didn't reflect the interview as a whole.
A lot of this "pin it on the dressing room wall" stuff is a bit overrated but teams are always looking some edge to hang on to. I know Courtwood didn't like being written off by virtually everyone but it's easy be wise after the event. Our form had been pretty poor up until yesterday to be fair.
That's all true Hesh. Graiguecullen have failed to perform the last number of years when the pressure came on. Doing an interview like that last week would only take the players minds off the game.
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Don't know Kevin personally but he sure could do with a few basic tips on management after doing an interview like that this week.
I wouldn't know him either but I think picking one little throwaway phrase in a long interview and using it as the headline didn't reflect the interview as a whole.
A lot of this "pin it on the dressing room wall" stuff is a bit overrated but teams are always looking some edge to hang on to. I know Courtwood didn't like being written off by virtually everyone but it's easy be wise after the event. Our form had been pretty poor up until yesterday to be fair.
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Is it junior B or C your club is? Don't worry you won't be involved in the big stuff for a long time ;)
Portlaoise look a different team this year and seem to be driven differently. Brody adds a complete different dimension to them and appears to be really on his game. ....... Billy may get him back in. Port just did enough but I think may have a bit more left to come. O Ds looked poor enough but still found a way. Have very dangerous forwards if the game is loose but still needed an agricultural high ball in to the big man to escape. Courtwood are well organised and committed. They get matchups right but need a couple more scoring forwards. I'd imagine that theyll be looking forward to this given that ODs put 7 goals past them the last time they met in championshio
It remains between Port and Portlaoise and that's the way it always looked. You'd imagine Port have another gear but I don't like the disruption. Players coming back in and not committing to the county set up. If they do have bigger ambitions, and you'd hope they do, you would have thought learning lessons from Portlaoise would have been wise. For that reason, I wouldn't be surprised if Portlaoise robbed them. Port have the best panel in Laois though, without doubt
Two semi final pairings which should be feisty with alot of niggle,agree with most in that Port have another gear still just depends on if they can get to it.Will Lillis and swayne be right for portlaois
Niall Dunne from Courtwood has to be given opportunity with the county next year . Brody would be a huge addition if he committed but can't see it happening.
Two very tasty Semi finals on the way . Seán O'Flynn is in serious form at half back . Interesting to see who picks him up from O'Dempseys next day out .
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Portlaoise look a different team this year and seem to be driven differently. Brody adds a complete different dimension to them and appears to be really on his game. ....... Billy may get him back in. Port just did enough but I think may have a bit more left to come. O Ds looked poor enough but still found a way. Have very dangerous forwards if the game is loose but still needed an agricultural high ball in to the big man to escape. Courtwood are well organised and committed. They get matchups right but need a couple more scoring forwards. I'd imagine that theyll be looking forward to this given that ODs put 7 goals past them the last time they met in championshio
Speaking of scoring forwards for Courtwood Alan Kinsella is a HUGE loss. Luke Doran , Luke Doyle and potentially Rory Doyle or Matt Kelly would be nice attacking options if they added them back to the panel
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Portlaoise look a different team this year and seem to be driven differently. Brody adds a complete different dimension to them and appears to be really on his game. ....... Billy may get him back in. Port just did enough but I think may have a bit more left to come. O Ds looked poor enough but still found a way. Have very dangerous forwards if the game is loose but still needed an agricultural high ball in to the big man to escape. Courtwood are well organised and committed. They get matchups right but need a couple more scoring forwards. I'd imagine that theyll be looking forward to this given that ODs put 7 goals past them the last time they met in championshio
Speaking of scoring forwards for Courtwood Alan Kinsella is a HUGE loss. Luke Doran , Luke Doyle and potentially Rory Doyle or Matt Kelly would be nice attacking options if they added them back to the panel
Kinsella and Rory Doyle both had cruciate injuries. They should have both of them next year. Kelly must be 37 or 38 so probably finished up as a senior player.
Don't know about the two Lukes.
The two doyles and kelly both played junior as far as i know bit dont seem to feature on their panel. Kinsella is a 4 point player even on a bad day so is a massive loss
Expect an all parish final of Portarlington v O'Dempseys after this weekend.
Think there could be two decent enough games.
I'm hoping Portlaoise don't perform as bad as last year's final.
O'Dempseys are a bit farther on as a team than Courtwood so I think they'll win but only by 3 or 4 points.
Think O'Ds will end this great run from Courtwood. Don't think it will br completely onesided but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised if they were relatively comfortable coming into the last few mins.
I've a sneaky feeling for portlaoise. Not really sure why but this will either kick-start port's year or they'll be caught cold. Think the winners of this one will be champions. Going to give the nod to portlaoise.
I'd say Eddie Kinsella is salivating at the prospect of this match Sunday. I've a sneaky feeling he might have something up his sleeve and Cwood will give O'Dempsey's a real run for their money.
Portlaoise need Cahillane and Maher inside to be at their very best if they're to beat Port. With Lillis back as well, I'd give Portlaoise a great chance in this semi final. Portlaoise will not have taken the beating Port gave them last year lightly and should bring serous aggression to this one from the off.
I think Port are timing their season well and I expect them to win by 5 or 6 points.
I think O'Dempseys just might be a little bit over confident and I can't see why Courtwood can't win this. First game might be a cracker.
Courtwood will give loads of it to O'Dempseys today but just think lack the overall scoring power O'Dempseys posses. Could go right down to the wire but fancy O'Dempseys by 5 .
Fancy Portlaoise to knock Port off there perch today . Hearing encouraging signs from the Town camp . Port haven't really hit the levels of last year yet and if they don't today they will be in trouble .
Port very lucky to get out of that one alive. So many players didn't turn up for them today and they only really got momentum together when the young lad from Portlaoise got a black card. Very, very lucky but they're coming out on the right side of a few battles this year which is a good sign. Some of the shooting from both sides was horrendous, particularly in the first half with Murphy and Cahillane missing some very scorable frees.
Thought O'Dempseys looked very good earlier, Mark Barry in particular was roasting a notorious tight man marker in Collins during the first half and looked a class above every other player on the pitch. Ultimately a lack of depth cost Courtwood in the end but they can be very proud of their year given their absentees. Felt Mulhare made a few odd decisions but nothing that changed the overall result so nothing worth complaining about really for either side.
It'll be a right final between two evenly enough matched sides based on what we've seen so far this year and given the rivalry between them. Port should have enough but I wouldn't be surprised if O'Ds did it.
Portlaoise will be kicking themselves. What a savat the end from osbourne.
Port not at their best and weren't let be to be fair. Longer their alive the more dangerous they are and though O'Ds were the better team on view today you still couldn't favour them with any huge confidence. Especially as I think the local derby will sharpen focus.
Kearns has made ODs a hard team to play against. Deserves credit for that. Doing a good job there youd have to say
Portlaoise will be kicking themselves is right. They had chances in that second half to tack on a few more scores but again lack that clinical edge since Bruno hung up the boots.
Thought Damon Larkin got through a good bit of work and definitely one Sheehan should be looking at next year. Port will be delighted to get over the line again and you'd have to be a brave man to back ODs in the final against a more physical and experienced outfit.
I'm convinced that The Heath would beat that Courtwood team there today . It dosent bode well for the standard of football in the county when you have a team that poor getting to a senior semi final . In no other county in Ireland would that Courtwood team of got to a senior semi final bar maybe in some of the poorer division 4 counties . Not a huge amount for Billy Sheehan to look at either apart from what he's already got . Damon Larkin has potential. Has a bit of size which is essential at senior intercounty nowadays too
Well who knows with that logic , it looks like Courtwood were parachuted into the semi-final which is an outrage . Imagine getting to a semi-final without winning a match . Disgraceful. Surely the other clubs would be up in arms about this .
Who knows The Heath might beat Courtwood and they will find out next year . Park rathineska came up last year and didn't beat Courtwood. So let's see what happens next year . Good negativity Laois Abu . Who knows with those other great life mysteries , would The Hulk beat Batman or captain America beat Spider-Man . Pointless observation. 4 teams regardless of today's performance deserved to be there based on results . We are we're we are .
Well done to The Heath on their win and to O'Dempseys and Port for getting through to a local derby
Final.
Good man put the boot in straight away. I'm not from Courtwood by the way but your comment is classless. Courtwood actually had a good championship but didn't seem to perform today for some reason. Well done to the Heath but they were taking part in the intermediate championship for a reason. Port and Portlaoise have several players who are of Co standard Courtwood and O Ds to a lesser degree but still a few there
2 decent games, ods had too much for Courtwood who will be happy with there year on reflection. Hatch + Barry were very good as usual, will be interesting how they get on against a tighter harder hitting port team. On that game Portlaoise left it behind them imo, the black card was a massive decision + turned the game ports way..Larkin, macca, rioghan Murphy were very good.
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It's that time of the year where Josephs get all excited before exiting in a heroic two point defeat. Graigue think they are back but that's every year since 1965. Ballyroanabbey talk about 92. O Dempsey's are just O Dempsey's. Courtwood and St Man's realize they are just making up the numbers. Portlaoise dream of the good old days and Port win a 3rd County in a row.
Laois Championship and we love it
Wisdom is my middle name
Saw the O'Dempsey's 'own point' on TG4. Have never seen one of those before.
Portlaoise look to be on an upward trajectory again. Lot of players in their starting fifteen who have plenty room for improvement over the next twelve months. Lillis and Callinane still in good nick and should be there again next year providing the necessary experience and leadership. While its a very disappointing lose on Sunday the future looks bright again. Portarlington really missing the eldest of the Murphy's- he was a great focal point to their forward line and a real leader to the team. O'Dempsey's have serious momentum and hunger to them. Their style of football is very much suited to good weather and a firm pitch. Hopefully we get good weather and a good spectacle come the final. If we get good footballing conditions I think O'Dempsey's will win. Barry might be the difference between the two sides. Has really stepped up as probably the top forward in Laois in the last few games. Everyone expecting Port to find another gear. They couldn't find it for Portlaoise game last weekend and I wouldn't be surprised if they don't find it in a couple of weeks time either.
Port playing poorly but still winning.
A huge amount depends on the who refs it I feel. If its someone like Mulhare who blows for every little thing then O Ds have a huge chance. The second match last Sunday was reffed completely differently with killings almost let go and if that level of physicality is allowed then I think Port will win comfortably
Apparently Adam Ryan had a bad fall off a stairs / scaffolding and is badly injured . Can anyone confirm this ? Diarmuid Bennett went off injured against Portlaoise with an injury too
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I'm convinced that The Heath would beat that Courtwood team there today . It dosent bode well for the standard of football in the county when you have a team that poor getting to a senior semi final . In no other county in Ireland would that Courtwood team of got to a senior semi final bar maybe in some of the poorer division 4 counties .
Look, you're probably not a million miles out. If we draw The Heath next year, we'll have it all to do to beat them. I'm still convinced there's not that much between 13 or 14 of the senior teams.
The Heath went down last year after losing to Emo by a last minute goal and Emo went to the semi-final. Teams sometimes get a bit of impetus like that.
I'm also convinced that we're a good bit better than how we played on Sunday but maybe some of that is down to how well O'D's played. All I know is we were desperately disappointed afterwards and even though another poster said we'd be happy with our year on reflection, it still feels like a chance missed and to partly agree with your original point, we might get it damn hard to get back to another semi-final.
Apparently Portarlington were absolutely demolished by Naas in a challenge game tonight . Port failed to score in the 2nd half . I don't know what the sense is in that 48 hours after a titanic tussle with Portlaoise. Surely the Port lads would have been shattered after Sundays efforts .
Surely it was only giving a run out for the reserves and none of the first team played?
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Apparently Portarlington were absolutely demolished by Naas in a challenge game tonight . Port failed to score in the 2nd half . I don't know what the sense is in that 48 hours after a titanic tussle with Portlaoise. Surely the Port lads would have been shattered after Sundays efforts .
You appear to be getting alot of rumours from the Port camp without knowing the full story,think it was just a run out for the subs so I wouldn't read anything into it
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Apparently Portarlington were absolutely demolished by Naas in a challenge game tonight . Port failed to score in the 2nd half . I don't know what the sense is in that 48 hours after a titanic tussle with Portlaoise. Surely the Port lads would have been shattered after Sundays efforts .
You appear to be getting alot of rumours from the Port camp without knowing the full story,think it was just a run out for the subs so I wouldn't read anything into it
Maybe so, I still think ODs have a serious chance in the final . Port look to be very laboured compared to last year . Unless Port find another gear in the final I think it will be a close encounter. If Port get anything close to last years form they will win comfortably but I can't see them finding last years form though . Adam Ryan is a HUGE loss if he's not playing . D Bennett less so but still a loss . Whoever comes out of Laois I can't see them doing much in Leinster unless Port manage to find last years form
Portlaoise are kicking themselves for losing that match on Sunday, Port weren't great but credit to Portlaoise for aiding Ports poor play. Some green shoots for Portlaoise as the young lads drove the best play on Sunday, Portlaoises lack of a quality free taker was most likely the difference and of course the black card changed momentum in the game.
Port are still the best team in the championship, won the hard way and fair play to them for that. I fully expect them to beat Dempseys in the final, Port haven't survived this many battles to blow this opportunity in the final. Port by 5 + points.
Intriguing final ahead . It was there for the taking Sunday for the Town . All that's been said has been said . Gruelling, tactical battle and Port come out on top again . There has to be another kick in Port and if not they'll be caught in the final . Saying that O'Dempseys have been the perennial bottlers but a change could be on the cards .
Seemingly Martin Murphy is part of Liam Kearns backroom team with Offaly so perhaps his decision to leave may have effected things in Port .
Low-key build up to a big final. Same with the hurling last week I think. Leinster and nationalist should really look at putting on specials on county final weeks, even online. Laoistoday do their usual few bits but a proper preview with some ex players would be great.
Port faves with the bookies buy I'm really torn on this one. O dempsys players seem really focused and full of praise and credit for kearns. I think theyll turn up in a big way. They won't be as battle-hardebed as Port but they will run very hard and Nerney will be a massive physical presence I think. Port might try make it slow and physical but you'd feel O'Ds will get a run on them at some stage or the other and they can put a score up quickly.
Kickouts could be important and both teams have weaknesses in this area. Interesting to see if Conor meridith could play some part and if they'd plant him at the edge of the square or out field.
I said before the semi that Port or portlaoise would win but I'm edging against them. Maybe there timing a run to peak for a final and leinster but I think they might be vulnerable to a team who can match them for legs and have forwards to hit big scores.
If its low scoring and cagey then I think Port will win. Actually they can probably win in more ways but I just have a feeling for the killenard men.
Mark Barry motm and ODs by 3.
Can only see one winner here after seeing the two semifinals. Port survived a massive Portlaoise test both physical and mental and O Ds had an easier semi v Courtwood who to be fair performed well below their standards. However for a while after halftime they looked vulnerable when courtwood went at them. Dessie Cooney did the Port semi and if he refs the final the same them I see Port physically overwhelming O Ds. It wouldnt surprise me to see Port win by 8-10 points but i really hope I'm wrong
ODs by 3
I just think Port are a bit ahead of O'Dempseys as a team. Wouldn't rule out O'Dempseys winning it but think it might take them another year or two.
The referee scenario for Sundays games is strange. Let's hope it's not a talking point come Sunday evening
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The referee scenario for Sundays games is strange. Let's hope it's not a talking point come Sunday evening
What's strange about it???
I'd say Cooney would know all those lads individually on both teams and particularly Port . Didn't he manage Port before he became a referee ?
Thought Cooney reffed Port v PL semi very well and it led to a hard-hitting and physical contest, which is was ye want. We well all be hoping these two sides serve up an end to end game like they did in the second round and I think Cooney is the right man for the job here.
Quote from: Junior Ex Laoistalk on October 07, 2022, 01:54:07 PM
Quote from: Batman!!! on October 07, 2022, 11:30:26 AM
The referee scenario for Sundays games is strange. Let's hope it's not a talking point come Sunday evening
What's strange about it???
Former Port manager. If memory is right he was the manager before Martin Murphy
Yeah he was part of a joint management team
Match Live on TG4 tomorrow now .
Portarlington to do what Clough Ballacolla did last week a 3 in a row and leave their best performance of the season for the final.
Portarlington by 6 points.
Portlaoise to win the junior A curtain raiser just about.
From talking to people and seeing some of the posts here iv changed my mind.
Going with port by 4. Pitch will be heavy which has to play into there hands.
Surely no truth to zack tuohy rumour?
Quote from: Robbo on October 09, 2022, 12:22:05 PM
Surely no truth to zack tuohy rumour?
Junior final? Surely not?
42 years since o ds won a final and I was at, it think they get another one today by 2
Don't see a junior championship thread but it was a very flat final. Nothing against Portlaoise but it was a very soulless thing to see them easing to victory and barely raising a cheer. Just imagine what a win would have meant to a small club like Barrowhouse.
I think there should be a separate championship for second and third teams.
Quote from: Gmac on October 09, 2022, 03:09:46 PM
42 years since o ds won a final and I was at, it think they get another one today by 2
I meant port by 22
Men vs Boys . Port won pulling up
Devastatingly brilliant.
Murphy timed the year too perfection. Workmanlike early but have built a head of steam and look like theyre ready to go hard at leinster. Heard them saying it us likeyl to be shelmallirrs away. Not easy by any means but Id fully expect Port to come through.
Quote from: Robbo on October 09, 2022, 09:39:39 PM
Devastatingly brilliant.
Murphy timed the year too perfection. Workmanlike early but have built a head of steam and look like theyre ready to go hard at leinster. Heard them saying it us likeyl to be shelmallirrs away. Not easy by any means but Id fully expect Port to come through.
Shelmaliers will be a big step up from ODempseys. They took Naas to extra time in the Leinster semi final last year and they have Eoghan OGara from Dublin after transferring in this year . I watched them beat St Anne's by 20 points tonight in the semi on Wexford GAA tv and they are a very good side . Full of strong runners and have 3/4 very clinical forwards . It's very hard to gauge did Port up it a notch today or were ODempseys just brutal .ODempseys didn't shut down Colm Murphy the way Portlaoise and Ballyroan did . Port were pushed to the pin of their collar vs Portlaoise in the semi and by Ballyroan in the quarters and can thank Osbornes save on Lillis the last day as a vital moment in this 3 in a row achievement
It's a pity Jason Moore never got a real run in a Laois jersey, whether it be because of work commitments or other. You can't teach pace and I think a good coach could have turned him into a very good inter-county half back.
Portarlington primed for another run at Leinster but will be tested up in Wexford. Think they'll be without Adam Ryan as well who was excellent also today.
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 09, 2022, 11:14:49 PM
It's a pity Jason Moore never got a real run in a Laois jersey, whether it be because of work commitments or other. You can't teach pace and I think a good coach could have turned him into a very good inter-county half back.
Portarlington primed for another run at Leinster but will be tested up in Wexford. Think they'll be without Adam Ryan as well who was excellent also today.
Only managed to catch a couple of minutes of the game.
If that was Moore that was involved in the red card incident he should be embarrassed to ever set foot on a football field again.
I've no desire to see sneaky fanny heads in the blue and white.
Quote from: Smellyball on October 09, 2022, 11:40:08 PM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 09, 2022, 11:14:49 PM
It's a pity Jason Moore never got a real run in a Laois jersey, whether it be because of work commitments or other. You can't teach pace and I think a good coach could have turned him into a very good inter-county half back.
Portarlington primed for another run at Leinster but will be tested up in Wexford. Think they'll be without Adam Ryan as well who was excellent also today.
Only managed to catch a couple of minutes of the game.
If that was Moore that was involved in the red card incident he should be embarrassed to ever set foot on a football field again.
I've no desire to see sneaky fanny heads in the blue and white.
What an embarrassing statement
The chap in question is well able to dish it out too so maybe karma does exist. Its the was the game is gone unfortunately. I saw it at minor last week so ye may be prepared to see more. In fairness I saw Seamus Mulhare deal with it at the semis by giving a red to a fella for the reaction but gave a black to the lad yelling in his face. Both off for the remainder of the match
Quote from: thegreeenandgold on September 26, 2022, 06:37:00 PM
Quote from: 8) on August 23, 2022, 07:48:13 AM
It's that time of the year where Josephs get all excited before exiting in a heroic two point defeat. Graigue think they are back but that's every year since 1965. Ballyroanabbey talk about 92. O Dempsey's are just O Dempsey's. Courtwood and St Man's realize they are just making up the numbers. Portlaoise dream of the good old days and Port win a 3rd County in a row.
Laois Championship and we love it
Wisdom is my middle name
When you know you know
Martin Murphy is going to be hard replaced at Port .
Horrible day fro football which was a pity.
O'Dempseys looked a bit clueless when they got to the final third. Didn't seem to have too many willing to shoot and time after time they either recycled it back or were overturned.
Poor display from them but Port were good and had no problem kicking scores when in range.
It woud be great to see them do well in Leinster as they're well capable.
Adam Ryan's last game for Port. Transferring up to Sligo
Quote from: Batman!!! on October 10, 2022, 02:25:02 PM
Adam Ryan's last game for Port. Transferring up to Sligo
He'll surely hang on for the Leinster club?
We have to get 7 or 8 of that Port team in with Laois this winter or we're wasting our time.
We simply can't afford to be without the likes of Piggott, Byrne and Colm Murphy and we should also be asking in 3 or 4 more of them on top of O'Sullivan and Mohan who were there this year.
Cathal Bennett another Humps, he's brilliant. No bullshit or dirt with him, just a great defender
Hard luck to the heath and barrowhouse. I had hopes the heath would have a run in leinster.
Best of luck to Port. Not easy win away but itll take a good team to beat them.
Looked like a right battle down in Wexford. Jake Foster sent off. He'll be a loss against Palentine . Doesn't look like many Port lads taking up the Laois call up which is a pity . Invitations sent out last week for start of training in November .
Clinical stuff from port.
Carlow side not bad but port turning them over and getting scores much easier. One foot firmly in semi.
Think port will beat kilmacd.
Quote from: Robbo on November 06, 2022, 10:39:08 PM
Think port will beat kilmacd.
Think Crokes will do them by 5/6/7 points . Crokes will be better set for Port this year as they know what Port are about now . Shane Walsh will take a bit of stopping
Quote from: Laoiseabu on November 06, 2022, 11:01:04 PM
Quote from: Robbo on November 06, 2022, 10:39:08 PM
Think port will beat kilmacd.
Think Crokes will do them by 5/6/7 points . Crokes will be better set for Port this year as they know what Port are about now . Shane Walsh will take a bit of stopping
Don't you think it's possible Portarlington may have learned something from last year too? Maybe you think only Dublin teams are capable of learning from previous encounters?
Won't it be great to see port beating a super club like crokes. Bennett will probably pick up Shane Walsh he's a series defender. Port will be full of confidence after a good display yesterday
Excellent from Port yesterday. Clinical. Smelt blood and showed no mercy. They also have Keith Bracken, Jake Foster and Daragh Slevin to come back into the running for the semi final.
They'll still be outsiders but I expect them to give this an almighty go.
Port were beating crokes comfortably last year till crokes realised that osbourne couldn't kick long due to a hamstring injury and pushed up agressivley on kickouts. If they do that this time then port have the option of kicking over the press and if crokes get caught behind the ball then port have the pace to really punish them. Port will give it a good rattle and i think will come out on top by a couple of piints
Crokes have near-professional level fitness. If you haven't beaten them well with 50 minutes on the clock it is very difficult to stay with them. A bit like the Dubs in their prime. Hopefully Port learned that from last year and have made adjustments.
Port are a very fit team aswell.
As much as I want to Port win it, I can't see them overturning Kilmacud Crokes in Croker. They should have won the AI last year and added probably one of the best forwards in the country to their team in Walsh.
Best of luck to Port all the same. Incredible last few seasons for them and hope to see a few of their team commit to Laois next year
Crokes are a very balanced team. Take Walsh out and there's no real stars. Port are similar I suppose and have a very strong team with few if any weak links so I think it will be very tight in Croker.
Port will do well to get within 7 or 8 points of them.
port to win pullin up
Quote from: georgedoylesrightleg on November 09, 2022, 03:19:29 PM
port to win pullin up
Jaysus George it's only 2 weeks ago that Castletown without Ben Brosnan almost took Ports scalp .
Best of luck to Port night at HQ . Huge task for them . If it's still tight going into the last 10/15 mins they'll have a serious chance . Kilmacud are a machine though and you would think they'll be taking nothing for granted after last year .
Port by 2.
Big wake up call again for Laois football. Portarlington are a very strong Laois team, but they were thrown around last night. The difference in physicality and fitness was massive . The players who declined the opportunity to join up with Laois should probably have a rethink.
classy to put the boot in when lads are down
No one more disappointed than Port themselves. They know they are better than that. Just one of those nights where nearly the whole starting 15 played well below their level. Crokes didn't even have to play particularly well.
Kilmacud had their homework done on Portarlington. Got their match ups right and the lighter Port forwards was physically dominated by their markers. It's a fair point made-Port players physically fit and strong enough for Laois club football but its a different ball game playing Kilmacud who would pretty much match up to any county team in terms of their physicality and conditioning. People were optimistic that Port were timing their run this season but getting the rub of the green against Ballyroan-Abbey, Portlaoise and a Castletown team who were minus Ben Brosnan on the day was probably an indication of where they were at really. Still though winning three county titles in a row is no easy feat and that Kilmacud team I reckon will win the All-Ireland title this year. No shame losing out to a side of their calibre.
Quote from: georgedoylesrightleg on November 20, 2022, 11:22:24 AM
classy to put the boot in when lads are down
I don't think that's putting the boot in, it's a fair point.
Very hard to play against this calabre of players when you have no county experience or county level training. To me that was Portlaoise's downfall on many an occasion when they just needed that little bit more to win games but physic and fitness let them down.
Some of the Portarlington lads would benifit hugely from a stint with the county but that's totally up to themselves as it doesn't suit everyone.
Great year for them and hard luck Portarlington...
You're right Junior. I had no intention of putting the boot in. I'd be delighted if any Laois club could win a Leinster. I think Portarlington, like Portlaoise before them, have a well above average panel. However like Portlaoise, not enough of their players commit to Laois, and the better ones should I'm my opinion. It's a win-win-win situation. It makes Laois stronger. It helps them to improve as players, and that helps their club.
Quote from: Junior Ex Laoistalk on November 21, 2022, 02:14:13 PM
Quote from: georgedoylesrightleg on November 20, 2022, 11:22:24 AM
classy to put the boot in when lads are down
I don't think that's putting the boot in, it's a fair point.
Very hard to play against this calabre of players when you have no county experience or county level training. To me that was Portlaoise's downfall on many an occasion when they just needed that little bit more to win games but physic and fitness let them down.
Some of the Portarlington lads would benifit hugely from a stint with the county but that's totally up to themselves as it doesn't suit everyone.
Great year for them and hard luck Portarlington...
hours aftrer bein beaten? yah, i'd say theyd love to hear that
Their own coach said they were beaten by a far superior team immediately after the match. You're just trolling. Again
not trollin. they were beatedn by better team on the day. but you put boot in re them playing for laois. you call me a troll all you like, weak way out.
100% troll. Not that it bothers me. You do what you have to do.