China Coronavirus

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lenny

Quote from: Gmac on January 22, 2022, 09:11:49 PM
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Quote from: lenny on January 22, 2022, 07:47:07 AM
Quote from: lenny on January 21, 2022, 08:03:56 PM
It's mad that all these restrictions are being lifted and we're getting our freedoms back. The anti vaxxers said that once they were imposed we'd never get them back. I'm not sure if I can trust those guys any more.

I just read that Meat Loaf died from Covid. He wouldn't take the vaccine as he didn't want to be controlled. Great musician but it's sad he bought into conspiracy nonsense.

Not wanting to be controlled and thinking there is a conspiracy aren't the same thing for some I'd imagine .

The disgusting abuse online about him demonstrates the loonies we get at both extremes of the covid debate

Have to say I disagree. You have to be some sort of conspiracy theorist to think that taking the vaccine to protect yourself and others is somehow surrendering control.

Language like "you have to be" and " no brainer" isn't helpful . Mad how many pro choice 8th amendment campaigners and vice versa take total opposite view in this debate. Oh the irony .

You may like me think there is no conspiracy, but you are healthy and that depending on your own immune system( in relation to booster)is perfectly sensible to say thank you for now

That's fair enough but Meat Loaf gave the reason for Nat getting vaccinated as that he didn't want to be controlled. Nobody who's giving out vaccines wants to control anyone else, they're doing it to protect them. Therefore he must've fallen victim to believing conspiracy theorists. Which is very sad since if he'd taken the vaccine he could've expected only a mild illness and

to have lived for several more years at least.

I'm sorry but that's pure conjecture. Do you know his detailed medical history?

I haven't a clue about his medical history. I do know that if you've lived to 74 as a male you can expect to live to 87. There are obviously many variables there but that's the expected outcome for a man of 74.
not in the USA 77 years for a male in 2020

We're both wrong. It's 87 in the UK but 85 in America.

armaghniac

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Quote from: Itchy on January 22, 2022, 09:32:52 PM
Isn't it it inevitable that in 10 days time we are going to have a huge amount of covid positives. Is that the idea that we are going to let covid rip now?  If that's the case do people just go to work now with a sniffle again? This whole jump into two footed in the Republic seems very odd to me.

Even on today's figures there are almost 11,000 cases and that is probably only half the number. There is going to a shed load of cases in the next fortnight, perhaps half a million people, and I for one will be keeping out of the way until that surge passes. If you haven't had Omicron and work in a pub then you are going to have it shortly.
I imagine the thinking is that opening pubs and discos will get the younger folk out and while they'll all get Omicron they'll not end in hospital much, then you'll have herd immunity among those who circulate a lot.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

lenny

Quote from: armaghniac on January 22, 2022, 10:08:03 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 22, 2022, 09:32:52 PM
Isn't it it inevitable that in 10 days time we are going to have a huge amount of covid positives. Is that the idea that we are going to let covid rip now?  If that's the case do people just go to work now with a sniffle again? This whole jump into two footed in the Republic seems very odd to me.

Even on today's figures there are almost 11,000 cases and that is probably only half the number. There is going to a shed load of cases in the next fortnight, perhaps half a million people, and I for one will be keeping out of the way until that surge passes. If you haven't had Omicron and work in a pub then you are going to have it shortly.
I imagine the thinking is that opening pubs and discos will get the younger folk out and while they'll all get Omicron they'll not end in hospital much, then you'll have herd immunity among those who circulate a lot.

That thinking is flawed though. The problem is you won't have herd immunity. People have been reinfected with omicron within 5 or 6 weeks.

thewobbler

There's an extraordinary air of negativity from some posters about restrictions being eased.

Absolute covid junkies.

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: thewobbler on January 22, 2022, 10:31:31 PM
There's an extraordinary air of negativity from some posters about restrictions being eased.

Absolute covid junkies.

who? I think there is one recent poster who said they would be more cautious as they expect a large number of cases (seems a reasonable expectation and NPHET said similar) but I've not seen any other negative posts...

thewobbler

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on January 22, 2022, 10:41:36 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 22, 2022, 10:31:31 PM
There's an extraordinary air of negativity from some posters about restrictions being eased.

Absolute covid junkies.

who? I think there is one recent poster who said they would be more cautious as they expect a large number of cases (seems a reasonable expectation and NPHET said similar) but I've not seen any other negative posts...

Since the Meatloaf conversation dried up....

The problem is you won't have herd immunity. People have been reinfected with omicron within 5 or 6 weeks.

There is going to a shed load of cases in the next fortnight, perhaps half a million people,

This whole jump into two footed in the Republic seems very odd to me.

Back to the real  Irish pandemic tonight for the poor hoors that have to work in a&e departments

armaghniac

Quote from: lenny on January 22, 2022, 10:18:22 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 22, 2022, 10:08:03 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 22, 2022, 09:32:52 PM
Isn't it it inevitable that in 10 days time we are going to have a huge amount of covid positives. Is that the idea that we are going to let covid rip now?  If that's the case do people just go to work now with a sniffle again? This whole jump into two footed in the Republic seems very odd to me.

Even on today's figures there are almost 11,000 cases and that is probably only half the number. There is going to a shed load of cases in the next fortnight, perhaps half a million people, and I for one will be keeping out of the way until that surge passes. If you haven't had Omicron and work in a pub then you are going to have it shortly.
I imagine the thinking is that opening pubs and discos will get the younger folk out and while they'll all get Omicron they'll not end in hospital much, then you'll have herd immunity among those who circulate a lot.

That thinking is flawed though. The problem is you won't have herd immunity. People have been reinfected with omicron within 5 or 6 weeks.

The way out might be to get an Omicron specific vaccine for the older half of the population and let the rest get reinfected as such reinfection will rarely be serious.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: thewobbler on January 22, 2022, 10:45:59 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on January 22, 2022, 10:41:36 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 22, 2022, 10:31:31 PM
There's an extraordinary air of negativity from some posters about restrictions being eased.

Absolute covid junkies.

who? I think there is one recent poster who said they would be more cautious as they expect a large number of cases (seems a reasonable expectation and NPHET said similar) but I've not seen any other negative posts...

Since the Meatloaf conversation dried up....

The problem is you won't have herd immunity. People have been reinfected with omicron within 5 or 6 weeks.

There is going to a shed load of cases in the next fortnight, perhaps half a million people,

This whole jump into two footed in the Republic seems very odd to me.

Back to the real  Irish pandemic tonight for the poor hoors that have to work in a&e departments

1st one is just advising the previous poster that reinfection is happening with omicron re Herd immunity nothing really to do with restrictions..

the 2nd one I referenced but it ls a valid observation given increased socialisation.

I dont think the 3rd one is negative and the 4th I forgot about that post....


Rudi

Quote from: thewobbler on January 22, 2022, 10:45:59 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on January 22, 2022, 10:41:36 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 22, 2022, 10:31:31 PM
There's an extraordinary air of negativity from some posters about restrictions being eased.

Absolute covid junkies.

who? I think there is one recent poster who said they would be more cautious as they expect a large number of cases (seems a reasonable expectation and NPHET said similar) but I've not seen any other negative posts...

Since the Meatloaf conversation dried up....

The problem is you won't have herd immunity. People have been reinfected with omicron within 5 or 6 weeks.

There is going to a shed load of cases in the next fortnight, perhaps half a million people,

This whole jump into two footed in the Republic seems very odd to me.

Back to the real  Irish pandemic tonight for the poor hoors that have to work in a&e departments

Wobbler the last quote is from myself, no one could call me a Covid junkie. I had an unfortunate experience with a very ill child on a Saturday night / Sunday morning in an Irish a&e department with drunken fuckups. In the words of Ben Sharpio " facts dont care about your feelings ".

Wildweasel74

Male can expect to live to 87, where do you get this, there 1 man around where I lived past the 87 mark, last man since my granddad died In 2003. Living 74 with his weight issues was fairly good, covid or not.

armaghniac

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 22, 2022, 11:18:46 PM
Male can expect to live to 87, where do you get this, there 1 man around where I lived past the 87 mark, last man since my granddad died In 2003. Living 74 with his weight issues was fairly good, covid or not.

He didn't say that, he said that if you are 74 than you can expect to live another dozen years, although this might not have been true of Meatloaf. While life expectancy in Ireland is 80 for men obviously half live longer.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

clarshack

Quote from: Rudi on January 22, 2022, 09:21:04 PM
Back to the real  Irish pandemic tonight for the poor hoors that have to work in a&e departments up & down our wonderful country. Young lads & women drinking quantities of drink their bodies & minds cant possibly sustain. If there was one blessing of Covid & partial lockdowns, twas the respite our a&e departments got from the lack of drunken, violent, ungrateful assholes shown up bloodied & battered looking for attention. Maybe these fookers need a pass in future to enter premises that sell alcohol. People like these pose a far greater problem to themselves & society than the covid unvaccinated ever did.

Good point!

Wildweasel74

If u 74, u maker be coming any time, If i make that age, I not be expecting another dozen yrs.

grounded

Quote from: Rudi on January 22, 2022, 10:59:31 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 22, 2022, 10:45:59 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on January 22, 2022, 10:41:36 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on January 22, 2022, 10:31:31 PM
There's an extraordinary air of negativity from some posters about restrictions being eased.

Absolute covid junkies.

who? I think there is one recent poster who said they would be more cautious as they expect a large number of cases (seems a reasonable expectation and NPHET said similar) but I've not seen any other negative posts...

Since the Meatloaf conversation dried up....

The problem is you won't have herd immunity. People have been reinfected with omicron within 5 or 6 weeks.

There is going to a shed load of cases in the next fortnight, perhaps half a million people,

This whole jump into two footed in the Republic seems very odd to me.

Back to the real  Irish pandemic tonight for the poor hoors that have to work in a&e departments

Wobbler the last quote is from myself, no one could call me a Covid junkie. I had an unfortunate experience with a very ill child on a Saturday night / Sunday morning in an Irish a&e department with drunken fuckups. In the words of Ben Sharpio " facts dont care about your feelings ".

Hope the child is doing ok now. You'd despair sometimes seeing idiots like that.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on January 22, 2022, 11:42:51 PM
If u 74, u maker be coming any time, If i make that age, I not be expecting another dozen yrs.


You'll not be saying that when you're 73, seems daft that you'd be happy to reach that age and hang up your boots happy to get to that age
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea