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Title: Mayo Crest Court Case
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on January 24, 2022, 02:40:51 PM
A bit of a mad one.

Long story short, a company had bought the rights to use the Mayo Ladies Football crest on merchandise. The GAA sued, it also being the Mayo GAA crest, but it turns out the GAA doesn't own any copyright of county stuff, county boards do. So they sued and settled. But they share these copyrights with other non GAA teams. Clear?

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/legal-dispute-over-use-of-mayo-gaa-crest-is-settled-1.4782586

On one hand it seems dicky to sue a company the Mayo LGFA fair and square did a deal with. It's their crest too. But it's a very obvious back door to sell merch as if it was official Mayo GAA gear.

But who actually owns a crest of you share it with two other sports bodies in your county? Time to pool merch amongst the 3 sports or tell them to get their own crest and kit?
Title: Re: Mayo Crest Court Case
Post by: tiempo on January 24, 2022, 04:55:45 PM
There some fecking chancers claiming ownership over something they didn't design or copyright

Seen similar in the small print when setting up club leisure orders, something like "all design including club logo is copyright of ON and not to be used elsewhere" not even worth addressing that shite with them, a fairly moronic setup at times
Title: Re: Mayo Crest Court Case
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on January 24, 2022, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: tiempo on January 24, 2022, 04:55:45 PM
There some fecking chancers claiming ownership over something they didn't design or copyright

Seen similar in the small print when setting up club leisure orders, something like "all design including club logo is copyright of ON and not to be used elsewhere" not even worth addressing that shite with them, a fairly moronic setup at times

Croker?
Title: Re: Mayo Crest Court Case
Post by: David McKeown on January 24, 2022, 05:25:24 PM
Did Armagh not have to change its crest in the mid noughties over something to do with the city owning the crest and not the GAA?
Title: Re: Mayo Crest Court Case
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on January 24, 2022, 05:40:36 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on January 24, 2022, 05:25:24 PM
Did Armagh not have to change its crest in the mid noughties over something to do with the city owning the crest and not the GAA?

Dubs did the same. Was the Corpo crest so they couldn't stop anyone knocking it off.

But the question I suppose is do the wimmin part own the crest? If so, why did they sue? If not, seems poor business to not have them clear as to their rights
Title: Re: Mayo Crest Court Case
Post by: naka on January 24, 2022, 08:02:22 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on January 24, 2022, 05:25:24 PM
Did Armagh not have to change its crest in the mid noughties over something to do with the city owning the crest and not the GAA?
Yip
E will see more and more counties designing their own crests to maximise merchandising .
Title: Re: Mayo Crest Court Case
Post by: twohands!!! on January 24, 2022, 08:31:49 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 24, 2022, 05:40:36 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on January 24, 2022, 05:25:24 PM
Did Armagh not have to change its crest in the mid noughties over something to do with the city owning the crest and not the GAA?

Dubs did the same. Was the Corpo crest so they couldn't stop anyone knocking it off.

But the question I suppose is do the wimmin part own the crest? If so, why did they sue? If not, seems poor business to not have them clear as to their rights

Was it not the case that a good chunk of counties changed their crest because it was discovered the various county boards didn't have the copyright/the trademark use of the county crests?
Title: Re: Mayo Crest Court Case
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on January 25, 2022, 02:38:39 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on January 24, 2022, 08:31:49 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on January 24, 2022, 05:40:36 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on January 24, 2022, 05:25:24 PM
Did Armagh not have to change its crest in the mid noughties over something to do with the city owning the crest and not the GAA?

Dubs did the same. Was the Corpo crest so they couldn't stop anyone knocking it off.

But the question I suppose is do the wimmin part own the crest? If so, why did they sue? If not, seems poor business to not have them clear as to their rights

Was it not the case that a good chunk of counties changed their crest because it was discovered the various county boards didn't have the copyright/the trademark use of the county crests?

They were, literally, county crests. Local authorities. So GAA ones were designed.
Title: Re: Mayo Crest Court Case
Post by: Eamonnca1 on January 25, 2022, 05:18:55 AM
What's the story with the Armagh logo changing from a blue background to orange?

As for Armagh, the local authority county was abolished in 1973 along with the other five counties, but I suppose the Armagh city and district council that was abolished in 2015 had a similar enough logo to the old county crest:

https://logos.fandom.com/wiki/Armagh_City_and_District_Council (https://logos.fandom.com/wiki/Armagh_City_and_District_Council)

But to the bigger point, this is another reason why merging the three organisations together would solve a lot of problems.
Title: Re: Mayo Crest Court Case
Post by: Itchy on January 25, 2022, 07:16:34 AM
Quote from: naka on January 24, 2022, 08:02:22 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on January 24, 2022, 05:25:24 PM
Did Armagh not have to change its crest in the mid noughties over something to do with the city owning the crest and not the GAA?
Yip
E will see more and more counties designing their own crests to maximise merchandising .

Cavan did the same as their old crest was the co council crest, new one is copyrighted by cavan gaa.
Title: Re: Mayo Crest Court Case
Post by: rosnarun on January 25, 2022, 03:43:26 PM
More to the Point Mayo GAA did a redesign of their Crest as the share it with the county council . though you'd need a good look to notice the Difference .
they also changed the motto from Dia is Muire Linn to Chroist LINN where as the ladies team had Peil Gael Na Mban on theirs but changed it a while back
Title: Re: Mayo Crest Court Case
Post by: seafoid on January 25, 2022, 04:13:38 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on January 25, 2022, 03:43:26 PM
More to the Point Mayo GAA did a redesign of their Crest as the share it with the county council . though you'd need a good look to notice the Difference .
they also changed the motto from Dia is Muire Linn to Chroist LINN where as the ladies team had Peil Gael Na Mban on theirs but changed it a while back
They could have a win win situation by changing the
Motto to Íosa Chriost.
Title: Re: Mayo Crest Court Case
Post by: Rossfan on January 25, 2022, 05:50:47 PM
Agus an t-asailín.....
Title: Re: Mayo Crest Court Case
Post by: hoynevalley on January 25, 2022, 08:38:03 PM
A high profile mayo player not playing with his club  this year? Will he tog for Mayo?