Football qualifier route 2018

Started by cornetto, April 04, 2018, 12:49:57 PM

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GalwayBayBoy

Half of this year's Division 1 teams in the qualifiers already after Monaghan's loss today.

Maroon Manc

I see on wiki it says teams who've played each other previously can meet each other in round 2 but can't in round 3 & 4, anyone know if thats right?


HiMucker

Id say that's right MM.  I Remember a few years back, Derry were beat by Down in the USFC, then beat them 2 weeks later in the qualifiers.

Itchy

Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 03, 2018, 04:01:31 PM
Half of this year's Division 1 teams in the qualifiers already after Monaghan's loss today.

There are some big fish swimming in there for sure.

omagh_gael

Round 1                      Round 2 Teams

Offaly                                  Monaghan
London                                Down/Donegal
Louth                                  Longford (not going to bother sticking Dublin down!)
Mayo                                   Carlow/Laois                             
Cavan                                  Sligo
Wexford                               Leitrim
Westmeath                           Clare
Kildare                                 Tipp
Wicklow
Meath
Waterford
Limerick
Armagh
Tyrone
Antrim
Derry

Everyone will be looking to avoid Monaghan and to a lesser extent Tipp (Donegal if they get beat, too) in round 2. However, all other teams are eminently beatable. If we get over Meath you could almost guarantee that we'll draw the Farney boyos.

straightred

Quote from: omagh_gael on June 04, 2018, 11:42:52 AM
Round 1                      Round 2 Teams

Offaly                                  Monaghan
London                                Down/Donegal
Louth                                  Longford (not going to bother sticking Dublin down!)
Mayo                                   Carlow/Laois                             
Cavan                                  Sligo
Wexford                               Leitrim
Westmeath                           Clare
Kildare                                 Tipp
Wicklow
Meath
Waterford
Limerick
Armagh
Tyrone
Antrim
Derry

Everyone will be looking to avoid Monaghan and to a lesser extent Tipp (Donegal if they get beat, too) in round 2. However, all other teams are eminently beatable. If we get over Meath you could almost guarantee that we'll draw the Farney boyos.

4 "non winners" will make the super 8s. Looking at that list you'd fancy mayo, tyrone, monaghan anyway (assuming they avoid each other). I think the bigger issue this year is what kind of state they'll be in by then.
In terms of tyrone drawing monaghan it can only happen in r2. No restrictions in that round but in round 3 there are. r4 is against a beaten provincial finalist

omagh_gael

What way does home venues work in round 2? Is it straight forward 1st team out of the bowl. Cue Jinxy with his "sickening arrogance" quip ;)

straightred

Quote from: omagh_gael on June 04, 2018, 11:52:14 AM
What way does home venues work in round 2? Is it straight forward 1st team out of the bowl. Cue Jinxy with his "sickening arrogance" quip ;)

"The A and B split system for the qualifier draws introduced in 2014 was discontinued after 2017. In rounds one to three, teams from divisions three and four of the National Football League have home advantage if drawn against teams from divisions one or two."

If this doesn't happen it must be first out of the hat is at home

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship

omagh_gael

Quote from: straightred on June 04, 2018, 12:20:02 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 04, 2018, 11:52:14 AM
What way does home venues work in round 2? Is it straight forward 1st team out of the bowl. Cue Jinxy with his "sickening arrogance" quip ;)

"The A and B split system for the qualifier draws introduced in 2014 was discontinued after 2017. In rounds one to three, teams from divisions three and four of the National Football League have home advantage if drawn against teams from divisions one or two."

If this doesn't happen it must be first out of the hat is at home

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship

Cheers

LeoMc

Quote from: omagh_gael on June 04, 2018, 12:23:38 PM
Quote from: straightred on June 04, 2018, 12:20:02 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 04, 2018, 11:52:14 AM
What way does home venues work in round 2? Is it straight forward 1st team out of the bowl. Cue Jinxy with his "sickening arrogance" quip ;)

"The A and B split system for the qualifier draws introduced in 2014 was discontinued after 2017. In rounds one to three, teams from divisions three and four of the National Football League have home advantage if drawn against teams from divisions one or two."

If this doesn't happen it must be first out of the hat is at home

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship

Cheers

In round 2 there are 2 separate bowls, 1 for the first 8 round qualifier winners and 1 for the 8 beaten provincial semi-finalists.
Which bowl gets pulled first, i.e. everything else being equal who gets home advantage?

omagh_gael

Quote from: LeoMc on June 04, 2018, 01:04:47 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 04, 2018, 12:23:38 PM
Quote from: straightred on June 04, 2018, 12:20:02 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 04, 2018, 11:52:14 AM
What way does home venues work in round 2? Is it straight forward 1st team out of the bowl. Cue Jinxy with his "sickening arrogance" quip ;)

"The A and B split system for the qualifier draws introduced in 2014 was discontinued after 2017. In rounds one to three, teams from divisions three and four of the National Football League have home advantage if drawn against teams from divisions one or two."

If this doesn't happen it must be first out of the hat is at home

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship

Cheers

In round 2 there are 2 separate bowls, 1 for the first 8 round qualifier winners and 1 for the 8 beaten provincial semi-finalists.
Which bowl gets pulled first, i.e. everything else being equal who gets home advantage?

Do they not drop the unopened balls into a third, empty, bowl and then draw out first (home) team?

Rossfan

The blood sports begin today!!!
I expect that the following will be victims by close of business today
Waterford
Derry
Meath
Wicklow
Antrim
Limerick
Westmeath.
As for tomorrow I think we'll see London doing Louth
If so will it be London's first Qualifier win?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Blowitupref

Quote from: Rossfan on June 09, 2018, 12:49:07 PM
The blood sports begin today!!!
I expect that the following will be victims by close of business today
Waterford
Derry
Meath
Wicklow
Antrim
Limerick
Westmeath.
As for tomorrow I think we'll see London doing Louth
If so will it be London's first Qualifier win?
Doubt it. If Sligo can beat London by 10 points then Louth should be able to win by a point or two.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Itchy

Waterford up against Wexford at half time. Christ Wexford went back at some speed this year.

Rossfan

Waterford win by 3.
1st wrong prediction of the day :-[ ;D
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM