Antrim Hurling

Started by milltown row, January 26, 2007, 11:21:26 AM

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Jonkunlon

Ports suffered from county commitments. Watched two of their games and they were badly depleted due to players on county duty.

Saffrongael

Quote from: johnnycool on June 05, 2023, 02:24:18 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on June 05, 2023, 11:36:06 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 05, 2023, 11:28:49 AM
We ended up holding onto a top 6 place even after getting beat yesterday in Ballycastle which is a marked improvement for us considering we've been in the relegation mix for a few years now.

I'll be better preparation for us going into the championship even if we'll be sick of the sight of our neighbours by the end of the year.

Saving on diesel  ;)

Edit, Ports are in the bottom section even though on a three way tie they'd a better scoring difference to the other two, Mcquillans got the 6th spot on the worst score difference of them, Ports and Ruairi O'gs.

Must be other factors at play.

It's not H2H anyway cos Cushendall had it over Ballycastle
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

imtommygunn

Is it not score difference against the teams you'e level with as opposed to overall score difference? I thought I read something like that in the football thread. Seemed odd but it was what was said.

saffman

Correct Tommygunn - Ballycastle get top half
Portaferry & Cushendall in the bottom group

johnnycool

Quote from: imtommygunn on June 05, 2023, 02:58:24 PM
Is it not score difference against the teams you'e level with as opposed to overall score difference? I thought I read something like that in the football thread. Seemed odd but it was what was said.

If there's games conceded then yes, it's score differences of the games amongst the teams involved. Other than that when three teams are on equal points it's score difference normally over the entire league.

Not sure there were any games conceded, maybe the one the other night where Ballycran and St Enda's didn't finish due to an injured player on the field of play and having to wait for an ambulance, but that game has no bearing on any of the three teams tied on 9 points.

Antrim are well within their rights to have that as a county byelaw but it's different to what's in the Official Guide.

"   Where teams finish on equal points for qualification for the concluding stages (of a championship organised partly on league basis), or in relation to league promotion/relegation, finishing positions shall be decided by the following means and in the order specified:
(i)   Where two Teams only are involved - the outcome of the meetings of the two teams in the previous games in the Competition.
(ii)   Scoring Difference (Subtracting the total Scores Against from the total Scores For);
(iii)   Highest Total Score For;
(iv)   A Play-Off.
"

Mhic Easmuint

League Regulations:

Where there is a need to differentiate between teams on equal points, the following criteria, outlined in Rule 6.21 (4) (c) T.O. 2021
shall be used:
a. Where teams finish with equal points the outcome of the meetings between the teams shall be the deciding factor, except for in a one round league where the deciding factors will be from b to d below.
b. The highest scoring differences. That is points scored minus points conceded in the games played between the teams
c. The highest score for'.
d. Play off

Where more than 2 teams are on equal points the issue will be decided as per b above

Exceptions:
Regulations a., b., c. shall not apply to u15 and lower agegroups

saffman

Ballycastle - +6
lost to Dall by 5 - beat port by 11


Cushendall + 5
Beat ballycastle by 5 - drew to portaferry

Portaferry -11
Lost by 11 to ballycastle - drew to cushendall

All teams & players were made aware of this before the league started

Jonkunlon

Wonder why Dunloy are conceding the Feis Cup semi-final?

SaffronSports

Quote from: saffman on June 06, 2023, 09:42:59 AM
Ballycastle - +6
lost to Dall by 5 - beat port by 11


Cushendall + 5
Beat ballycastle by 5 - drew to portaferry

Portaferry -11
Lost by 11 to ballycastle - drew to cushendall

All teams & players were made aware of this before the league started

Never seen anything like that. Scoring difference before actual results.

imtommygunn

3 way tie though - how do you do that on actual results? Surely you can't.

Saffrongael

Quote from: imtommygunn on June 06, 2023, 10:11:24 AM
3 way tie though - how do you do that on actual results? Surely you can't.

It becomes a mini league as outlined above
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

johnnycool

Quote from: saffman on June 06, 2023, 09:42:59 AM
Ballycastle - +6
lost to Dall by 5 - beat port by 11


Cushendall + 5
Beat ballycastle by 5 - drew to portaferry

Portaferry -11
Lost by 11 to ballycastle - drew to cushendall

All teams & players were made aware of this before the league started

Yeah,
   I misunderstood the rules, the only games that matter are the "Head to Head" games, so Ballycastle go through.


SaffronSports

On actual results, Cushendall would go through with a win and a draw. Ballycastle won one, lost one and Portaferry had a draw and a loss. Bizarre they go for points difference between them before actual results.

Saffrongael

Quote from: SaffronSports on June 06, 2023, 11:18:45 AM
On actual results, Cushendall would go through with a win and a draw. Ballycastle won one, lost one and Portaferry had a draw and a loss. Bizarre they go for points difference between them before actual results.

It's Antrim baby
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

imtommygunn

Quote from: SaffronSports on June 06, 2023, 11:18:45 AM
On actual results, Cushendall would go through with a win and a draw. Ballycastle won one, lost one and Portaferry had a draw and a loss. Bizarre they go for points difference between them before actual results.

Actually fair point  ;D