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Title: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: trileacman on February 08, 2021, 09:54:11 PM
Since the emergence of the pandemic vaccines have been held up as the silver bullet to get us out of this mess of restrictions and lockdowns. Even today governments and media outlets are focusing on a rough date when we will probably reach herd immunity through vaccination. But what if the vaccines don't last long enough to be effective or a variant emerges and spreads that the vaccine doesn't cover. What's plan B?

This isn't a thread on the likelihood of the vaccines being ineffective so leave those comments at the door. I'd just like to know what our options are if the vaccines can't bring an end to the pandemic.
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: armaghniac on February 08, 2021, 10:07:56 PM
Really good testing techniques could bring it to an end also. Something cheap, easy to use and reliable. Then you could test everyone often and drive out the virus.
A much improved treatment would help too, which if given quickly, after the aforesaid test, that would stop the virus getting a hold.
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: sid waddell on February 08, 2021, 11:31:44 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 08, 2021, 10:07:56 PM
Really good testing techniques could bring it to an end also. Something cheap, easy to use and reliable. Then you could test everyone often and drive out the virus.
A much improved treatment would help too, which if given quickly, after the aforesaid test, that would stop the virus getting a hold.
I hoped something like this would have emerged by now but it hasn't

It would need to be mass produced, it would need to be almost instant, it would need to be free or at least almost free, it would need to be available almost like masks are available now, for the general public to self test

Which means the government would have to pay for it

Hard to see something like that emerge
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 09, 2021, 12:25:55 AM
Luke O'Neill thinks this is a good idea.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtvfUhAXAAE8M3s?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: BennyCake on February 09, 2021, 10:08:39 AM
Luke O'Neill is a p***k.
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: Angelo on February 09, 2021, 10:13:56 AM
We do like we should have done 6/7 months back and get on with livable restrictions.
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: Rudi on February 09, 2021, 10:29:07 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 09, 2021, 10:08:39 AM
Luke O'Neill is a p***k.

An utter gobshite, would never get tired batin him. Celebrity populist dr dolittle.
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: seafoid on February 09, 2021, 10:37:26 AM
It's probably going to be an iterative process. The development of the virus is random. If vaccines can cope with them the pandemic is over. If not, vaccines will need to be tweaked.
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: armaghniac on February 09, 2021, 11:32:49 AM
Quote from: Rudi on February 09, 2021, 10:29:07 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 09, 2021, 10:08:39 AM
Luke O'Neill is a p***k.

An utter gobshite, would never get tired batin him. Celebrity populist dr dolittle.

He is also a millionaire and knows his stuff.
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: Rossfan on February 09, 2021, 12:24:12 PM
Bet he doesn't know as much as our GAAboard expert  virologists or immunologists ;)
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: South Laois man on February 09, 2021, 12:38:20 PM
All the vaccines prevent serious illness if you contract covid even the varients. Meaning it turns covid into something more like a cold or mild flu. Surely people can live with that.
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: Rudi on February 09, 2021, 12:57:49 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 09, 2021, 12:24:12 PM
Bet he doesn't know as much as our GAAboard expert  virologists or immunologists ;)

Is that aimed at me?
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: Rudi on February 09, 2021, 01:14:23 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 09, 2021, 11:32:49 AM
Quote from: Rudi on February 09, 2021, 10:29:07 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 09, 2021, 10:08:39 AM
Luke O'Neill is a p***k.

An utter gobshite, would never get tired batin him. Celebrity populist dr dolittle.

He is also a millionaire and knows his stuff.

Never questioned whether he knows his stuff or not. Donald Trump is a billionaire but that probably doesn't suit your narrative.
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: BennyCake on February 09, 2021, 01:51:24 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 09, 2021, 11:32:49 AM
Quote from: Rudi on February 09, 2021, 10:29:07 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 09, 2021, 10:08:39 AM
Luke O'Neill is a p***k.

An utter gobshite, would never get tired batin him. Celebrity populist dr dolittle.

He is also a millionaire and knows his stuff.

He'll soon be a billionaire.
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: Rossfan on February 09, 2021, 02:13:22 PM
Quote from: Rudi on February 09, 2021, 12:57:49 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 09, 2021, 12:24:12 PM
Bet he doesn't know as much as our GAAboard expert  virologists or immunologists ;)

Is that aimed at me?
Don't flatter yourself gasún sure you're hardly even an apprentice compared to the 2 resident Professors here.
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: Rudi on February 09, 2021, 02:15:46 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 09, 2021, 02:13:22 PM
Quote from: Rudi on February 09, 2021, 12:57:49 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 09, 2021, 12:24:12 PM
Bet he doesn't know as much as our GAAboard expert  virologists or immunologists ;)

Is that aimed at me?
Don't flatter yourself gasún sure you're hardly even an apprentice compared to the 2 resident Professors here.

Good for you boy. I wonder what your area of expertise is.
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: Rossfan on February 09, 2021, 02:21:51 PM
Common sense, long generations of inherited west of Ireland DNA.
I believe  doctors know more about medical issues than a few bucks posting ráiméis on GAAboard. ;)
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: pbat on February 09, 2021, 03:28:14 PM
is the WHO are predicting a further pandemic in the very near future?
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: armaghniac on February 09, 2021, 03:32:39 PM
Quote from: Rudi on February 09, 2021, 01:14:23 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 09, 2021, 11:32:49 AM
Quote from: Rudi on February 09, 2021, 10:29:07 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 09, 2021, 10:08:39 AM
Luke O'Neill is a p***k.

An utter gobshite, would never get tired batin him. Celebrity populist dr dolittle.

He is also a millionaire and knows his stuff.

Never questioned whether he knows his stuff or not. Donald Trump is a billionaire but that probably doesn't suit your narrative.

O'Neills demeanour might be a matter of taste, but I think the term gobshite is not warranted. Comparison with Trump certainly isn't.
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: BennyCake on February 09, 2021, 04:05:21 PM
Quote from: pbat on February 09, 2021, 03:28:14 PM
is the WHO are predicting a further pandemic in the very near future?

I've heard it said numerous times there's more to come. So that's just those in control letting us know they have more for us.
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: sid waddell on February 09, 2021, 04:07:41 PM
There's lots to be genuinely angry about in our world today

But some people choose to get angry about a short, light hearted television segment that wasn't meant to be taken very seriously

Funnily enough, my strong feeling is that a lot of people who choose to get angry at a short, light hearted television segment are the same people who frequently complain bitterly when RTE broadcast serious pieces regarding the pandemic

Some people are never satisfied and just like a whinge, without actually knowing what it is they're whinging about


Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: Louther on February 09, 2021, 04:10:19 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 09, 2021, 04:05:21 PM
Quote from: pbat on February 09, 2021, 03:28:14 PM
is the WHO are predicting a further pandemic in the very near future?

I've heard it said numerous times there's more to come. So that's just those in control letting us know they have more for us.

;D ;D ;D Bill, Luke O'Neill and Dr Evil moving onto phase 2.
Title: Re: If the COVID vaccines don’t work, what do we do then?
Post by: sid waddell on February 09, 2021, 04:12:15 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on February 09, 2021, 04:05:21 PM
Quote from: pbat on February 09, 2021, 03:28:14 PM
is the WHO are predicting a further pandemic in the very near future?

I've heard it said numerous times there's more to come. So that's just those in control letting us know they have more for us.
Ooh, a "plandemic" guy

Surprised you go on the internet at all

People like me and all the other posters here who are in on this Bill Gates/George Soros plandemic all have 5G tracking on you and your devices

We can all see you right now

Just to let you know, I've just transferred a load of money from your bank account to mine