Brexit.

Started by T Fearon, November 01, 2015, 06:04:06 PM

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HiMucker

He has a point though. There is plenty of people bleating on about "chlorinated chicken" without really understanding why its bad, though I am sure there is plenty that do. It just so happens that they are right. The chickens being washed in chlorine isn't really the issue, its why they are washed in chlorine that is the concern.

seafoid

Quote from: Rossfan on November 26, 2018, 10:50:06 AM
Why does the media herd continually refer to the EU/Brit deal as "Teresa May's deal".
Gives the impression it's something she wrote herself rather than the outcome of 17 months high level negotiations.

She negotiated it. She yielded on fishing, equivalence, ECJ

trailer

Quote from: seafoid on November 26, 2018, 10:52:46 AM
Quote from: trailer on November 26, 2018, 10:29:45 AM
Quote from: seafoid on November 26, 2018, 10:11:41 AM
Quote from: trailer on November 26, 2018, 09:42:51 AM
Quote from: Dire Ear on November 25, 2018, 11:38:19 PM
Trailer, you're lost for a good.............education  ;D ;D

Some of the biggest food scares..

BSE (UK & Ireland)
Foot and Mouth (UK & Ireland)
Dioxines in Pig feed (Ireland)
Horsemeat Scandal (UK & Ireland)

But yeah Chlorinated Chicken and Steroids in Beef.

I'm just asking people get a little bit of perspective on things and stop regurgitating shite of Facebook. But that seems beyond the mental capabilities of some contributors on this board.

trailer

do you understand the difference between a week and a decade ?

You're missing the point.

Chlorine is systemic
BSE is not
Horse meat is not
Foot and Mouth is not

Food safety in the EU is really serious. I was talking to a Director of a chicken  feed company from Belgium recently. There is a strict series of tests that have to be carried out for all known risks.
The company got an order from a client that they couldn't process so they asked an Indian firm to do it. The Indians used some antibiotic in their factory that is banned in Europe. So it's not tested for. The antibiotic was picked up in Bangladesh.
The whole consignment had to be dumped. 

In the US nobody gives a f**k about food quality . Life expectancy is also lower

That's a crazy statement. "Nobody cares about food quality" You're making a holy show of yourself.

What has happened is that people have gone from leaving the EU to a massive free trade deal with the US to Chlorinated Chicken and Steroids in Beef in a wet week. Any free trade deal with the US is years away and whether that included tonnes of Chlorinated Chicken or Steroids in beef is anyone's guess. It's hyperbole and scaremongering. No one on here is able to tell me what the issue is with Chlorinated Chicken or Steroids in Beef (It's actually a hormone they give them but anyway) without looking something up. They don't know but they read it on some shitty Facebook post, so to sound informed they're regurgitating it.
All I'm asking for is a small bit of perspective.


HiMucker

I tried to tell you. The problem with chlorinated chicken is the way they are reared. They are washed with chlorine to get rid of all the bacteria, which is more common in the crammed spaces that they are reared in. The EU have stricter regulation regarding space/rearing conditions. They do not allow chickens to be washed with chlorine because it is considered an easy way of getting rid of all the issues that may arise from circumventing these regulations. Food quality and standard in the sates is no where near that of the EU, that's the reason you can go to an all you can eat steakhouse for less than $20.

Applesisapples

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Quote from: weareros on November 25, 2018, 10:19:20 PM
Quote from: trailer on November 25, 2018, 09:16:42 PM
Quote from: lenny on November 23, 2018, 03:32:04 PM
Quote from: Jim_Murphy_74 on November 23, 2018, 02:24:11 PM
In the event of a no-deal Brexit will that spell the end of the cheap power-tools and the like from Lidl UK stores?

That would be tragic.

/Jim.


To be replaced with chlorinated chicken from the USA and cheap beef full of hormones and antibiotics from South America.

I don't get this. Please explain.

EU maintains high food standards. Not so other markets. The steak you get in USA, unless you are careful, is from livestock fattened with steroids. The chickens are washed in chlorine. Eat from that food chain and you are putting that in your body. Uk wants to sign its own trade deals which will likely flood their markets with this food after new trade deals with America's. The consumer may thinks it's great as wil be cheaper but they are paying a higher price health wise.

The majority of beef eaten in the US comes from animals who are fed crap and never see the light of day.

trailer

Quote from: HiMucker on November 26, 2018, 11:44:29 AM
I tried to tell you. The problem with chlorinated chicken is the way they are reared. They are washed with chlorine to get rid of all the bacteria, which is more common in the crammed spaces that they are reared in. The EU have stricter regulation regarding space/rearing conditions. They do not allow chickens to be washed with chlorine because it is considered an easy way of getting rid of all the issues that may arise from circumventing these regulations. Food quality and standard in the sates is no where near that of the EU, that's the reason you can go to an all you can eat steakhouse for less than $20.

Of Course. NO ONE CARES ABOUT FOOD QUALITY IN THE USA!!! NO ONE!!!!

Billions of tonnes of Chlorinated Chicken and Beef with Steroids are waiting to flood the UK market. This is what Brexit means.
2 stone Children will no doubt be born with a greeny / blue tinge from all the Chlorinated Chicken and Steroids in Beef.
I am not sensationalising this at all.

Catch a grip for fucks sake.

HiMucker

What are you on about? You seem to be having an imaginary argument about something Im not even talking about??

ziggysego

Quote from: seafoid on November 26, 2018, 10:11:41 AM
Quote from: trailer on November 26, 2018, 09:42:51 AM
Quote from: Dire Ear on November 25, 2018, 11:38:19 PM
Trailer, you're lost for a good.............education  ;D ;D

Some of the biggest food scares..

BSE (UK & Ireland)
Foot and Mouth (UK & Ireland)
Dioxines in Pig feed (Ireland)
Horsemeat Scandal (UK & Ireland)

But yeah Chlorinated Chicken and Steroids in Beef.

I'm just asking people get a little bit of perspective on things and stop regurgitating shite of Facebook. But that seems beyond the mental capabilities of some contributors on this board.

trailer

do you understand the difference between a week and a decade ?

Same as the weather v climate debate. Some don't understand the difference.
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Rossfan

Trailer must be on the same stuff as Syferus ::)
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Hardy

This is a pretty good summary:

A SHORT HISTORY OF BRITAIN AND THE EU

UK: We want a rebate on the fees.
EU: OK.

UK: We don't want to be in the Euro.
EU: OK.

UK: We don't want to be in Shengen.
EU: OK.

UK: We want a restriction on benefits until people have worked here for some time.
EU: OK.

UK: We want to stop child benefit being paid for children who aren't in the UK.
EU: OK.

UK: We want to kick out people who come here but don't work and can't afford to support themselves.
EU: That's fine, you already can.

UK: We want loads of preferential treatment that other countries don't get.
EU: Errr, we can't really give that without everyone agreeing.

UK: Don't give us what we want and we'll leave.
EU: That's a bit of an over-reaction, but your choice.

UK: OK we're leaving.
EU: Bye then.

UK: Now that we're leaving, we want all the things we had before.
EU: Errr, no, it doesn't work like that.

UK: Don't give us what we want and we'll leave with nothing.
EU: [Scratches head] OK, umm, well, yeah.

UK: We're serious, we'll walk away with nothing to teach you a lesson.
EU: Bye (again).

north_antrim_hound

Quote from: Rossfan on November 26, 2018, 12:14:20 PM
Trailer must be on the same stuff as Syferus ::)

Yeah it's called dunning-Kruger weed
There's a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in Millets

north_antrim_hound

Quote from: Hardy on November 26, 2018, 12:49:20 PM
This is a pretty good summary:

A SHORT HISTORY OF BRITAIN AND THE EU

UK: We want a rebate on the fees.
EU: OK.

UK: We don't want to be in the Euro.
EU: OK.

UK: We don't want to be in Shengen.
EU: OK.

UK: We want a restriction on benefits until people have worked here for some time.
EU: OK.

UK: We want to stop child benefit being paid for children who aren't in the UK.
EU: OK.

UK: We want to kick out people who come here but don't work and can't afford to support themselves.
EU: That's fine, you already can.

UK: We want loads of preferential treatment that other countries don't get.
EU: Errr, we can't really give that without everyone agreeing.

UK: Don't give us what we want and we'll leave.
EU: That's a bit of an over-reaction, but your choice.

UK: OK we're leaving.
EU: Bye then.

UK: Now that we're leaving, we want all the things we had before.
EU: Errr, no, it doesn't work like that.

UK: Don't give us what we want and we'll leave with nothing.
EU: [Scratches head] OK, umm, well, yeah.

UK: We're serious, we'll walk away with nothing to teach you a lesson.
EU: Bye (again).


Brilliant
There's a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in Millets

Franko

Quote from: Hardy on November 26, 2018, 12:49:20 PM
This is a pretty good summary:

A SHORT HISTORY OF BRITAIN AND THE EU

UK: We want a rebate on the fees.
EU: OK.

UK: We don't want to be in the Euro.
EU: OK.

UK: We don't want to be in Shengen.
EU: OK.

UK: We want a restriction on benefits until people have worked here for some time.
EU: OK.

UK: We want to stop child benefit being paid for children who aren't in the UK.
EU: OK.

UK: We want to kick out people who come here but don't work and can't afford to support themselves.
EU: That's fine, you already can.

UK: We want loads of preferential treatment that other countries don't get.
EU: Errr, we can't really give that without everyone agreeing.

UK: Don't give us what we want and we'll leave.
EU: That's a bit of an over-reaction, but your choice.

UK: OK we're leaving.
EU: Bye then.

UK: Now that we're leaving, we want all the things we had before.
EU: Errr, no, it doesn't work like that.

UK: Don't give us what we want and we'll leave with nothing.
EU: [Scratches head] OK, umm, well, yeah.

UK: We're serious, we'll walk away with nothing to teach you a lesson.
EU: Bye (again).

UK: But you've got to, we're British!
EU: Umm, yeah, whatever

Rossfan

UK :  DUP says NO!
EU: What the fck is a DUP?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

seafoid

Quote from: Rossfan on November 26, 2018, 04:04:23 PM
UK :  DUP says NO!
EU: What the fck is a DUP?

I wonder who funds the DUP. It's not NI business or farmers.