Time for the real sthuff now.
We will catch Kerry on the hop here, Mayo by 4.
Should be a good game, I think Mayo will edge it.
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 15, 2023, 03:26:45 PM
Should be a good game, I think Mayo will edge it.
Thank you Kerryforsams and Eire og and all your other aliases for your wonderful analysis as usual. You have to try a little harder.
Kerry not eat Mayo in Croke Park last year, twice.
Quote from: joemamas on May 15, 2023, 03:30:51 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on May 15, 2023, 03:26:45 PM
Should be a good game, I think Mayo will edge it.
Thank you Kerryforsams and Eire og and all your other aliases for your wonderful analysis as usual. You have to try a little harder.
What?
You think I operate numerous accounts?
I will take that as a compliment , as I suspect it takes a wheen of brains to do that
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 15, 2023, 03:34:00 PM
Kerry not eat Mayo in Croke Park last year, twice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7mpClSPyhk
I would expect Kerry to win with a few points to spare. Cuimhnigh ar 2014. Doesn't time fly?
Wouldn't be confident calling it either way .
Kerry didn't ate us alive last year , they simply converted their chances whilst we had just as many chances but didn't convert . Absolutely deserved their victory though as converting your chances is what wins games .
David Moran is a big loss to Kerry . They've not looked as sharp as they should thus far either .
We will have to get a bounce out of having such a decent break since Ros game and I believe we will .
Mcbrien will be handed the job of marshalling George best , big test for him , the ultimate test . We will need PAddy and hession to be on their A game . One will get seanie o se and the other probably get paudie best . But them bucks will also have something to think about .
Players out of form like Mattie Ruane will really need to up it if we are to have any chance , Jordan Flynn similarly has gone off the boil . Carr , Aido and Ryan to start with Tommy and cillian (if available) to come in half way through .
Tony brosnan will need following , think he's very underrated , comes out and makes things happen.
We have gone off peoples radar since ros defeat , which is great . I'll put it this way though , they didn't go out to lose for sure but there sure as hell was frig all disappointment amongst the players .
Travel in hope rather than expectation but crikey I'd love nothing more to be the first team to bate them below since 1995 championship.
Fitzgerald field ::) ::) ::)
This would have 10 or 12 pages by now in the good oul days!
Sean Hurson the ref this game as he was for the 2-14 to 1-10 league game back in February
Mayo starting team that night at least 12 should start again?
Colm Reape
David McBrien, Rory Brickenden, Enda Hession
Stephen Coen, Conor Loftus, Donnacha McHugh
Matthew Ruane, Diarmuid O'Connor
Fionn McDonagh, Jack Carney, Jordan Flynn
Aidan O'Shea, James Carr, Ryan O'Donoghue.
Kerry 7 or 8?
Shane Murphy
Graham O'Sullivan, Jason Foley, Tom O'Sullivan
Pa Warren, Tadhg Morley, Paul Murphy;
Jack Barry, Barry O'Sullivan;
Dara Moynihan, Paudie Clifford, Micheál Burns;
Tony Brosnan, Darragh Roche, Donal O'Sullivan.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 15, 2023, 07:21:52 PM
Sean Hurson the ref this game as he was for the 2-14 to 1-10 league game back in February
Mayo starting team that night at least 12 should start again?
Colm Reape
David McBrien, Rory Brickenden, Enda Hession
Stephen Coen, Conor Loftus, Donnacha McHugh
Matthew Ruane, Diarmuid O'Connor
Fionn McDonagh, Jack Carney, Jordan Flynn
Aidan O'Shea, James Carr, Ryan O'Donoghue.
Kerry 7 or 8?
Shane Murphy
Graham O'Sullivan, Jason Foley, Tom O'Sullivan
Pa Warren, Tadhg Morley, Paul Murphy;
Jack Barry, Barry O'Sullivan;
Dara Moynihan, Paudie Clifford, Micheál Burns;
Tony Brosnan, Darragh Roche, Donal O'Sullivan.
I'd imagine bolded 8 will start for Kerry. Same team to Clare game I'd expect so Ryan in goals, Casey, White, Diarmuid O'Connor, Seánie, Clifford and Geaney to fill the other slots. Geaney may come under pressure, but Donal O'Sullivan injured at a bad time unfortunately for him.
Kerry lads have big expectations of their Diarmuid O'Connor but he's been either a bit underwhelming or injury prone so far. Is that fair to say and could he now have the maturity to step in to David Moran's boots?
are tony brosnan and darragh moynihan the sons of eoin brosnan and seamus moynhihan?
Quote from: orchardarmy02 on May 16, 2023, 02:51:02 PM
are tony brosnan and darragh moynihan the sons of eoin brosnan and seamus moynhihan?
Yes, Eoin Brosnan and Seamus Moynihan got married in 2016, when Eoin was 16 and Seamus was 43. Some people said eoin was too young to get married but love conquers all.
Straight away they had a baby boy Tony Brosnan-Moynihan and 2 years later had Darragh Moynihan-Brosnan.
:D :D :D :D
Quote from: blanketattack on May 16, 2023, 03:00:50 PM
Quote from: orchardarmy02 on May 16, 2023, 02:51:02 PM
are tony brosnan and darragh moynihan the sons of eoin brosnan and seamus moynhihan?
Yes, Eoin Brosnan and Seamus Moynihan got married in 2016, when Eoin was 16 and Seamus was 43. Some people said eoin was too young to get married but love conquers all.
Straight away they had a baby boy Tony Brosnan-Moynihan and 2 years later had Darragh Moynihan-Brosnan.
(https://media.tenor.com/SeIepC9pV6sAAAAS/what-the-f**k-did-i-just-read-what-the-f**k.gif)
so the first lad was conceived out of wed-lock???
Once again Kudos to the mods for doing their utmost to pollute this website with pure BS.
Every two days the same clown sets up a new account, he has most recently began using Ulster county names as the Kerry ones are almost all up.
are you referring to me?
Quote from: blanketattack on May 16, 2023, 03:00:50 PM
Quote from: orchardarmy02 on May 16, 2023, 02:51:02 PM
are tony brosnan and darragh moynihan the sons of eoin brosnan and seamus moynhihan?
Yes, Eoin Brosnan and Seamus Moynihan got married in 2016, when Eoin was 16 and Seamus was 43. Some people said eoin was too young to get married but love conquers all.
Straight away they had a baby boy Tony Brosnan-Moynihan and 2 years later had Darragh Moynihan-Brosnan.
Well I laughed anyway. ;D ;D
Quote from: blanketattack on May 16, 2023, 03:00:50 PM
Quote from: orchardarmy02 on May 16, 2023, 02:51:02 PM
are tony brosnan and darragh moynihan the sons of eoin brosnan and seamus moynhihan?
Yes, Eoin Brosnan and Seamus Moynihan got married in 2016, when Eoin was 16 and Seamus was 43. Some people said eoin was too young to get married but love conquers all.
Straight away they had a baby boy Tony Brosnan-Moynihan and 2 years later had Darragh Moynihan-Brosnan.
Darragh and Tony are putting in some performances for Kerry for 5 and 7 year olds respectively, it must be down to the genes.
Another league game between these two. This time Kerry are at home. Mayo won't be too upset if they lose, Kerry will. Kerry to get revenge (if you'd call it that). Nothing more to see here.............
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 16, 2023, 04:53:23 PM
Another league game between these two. This time Kerry are at home. Mayo won't be too upset if they lose, Kerry will. Kerry to get revenge (if you'd call it that). Nothing more to see here.............
Winner of this match will top the group (no disrespect to Louth, Cork) that equals avoiding the play off and having free week to prepare against your quarter final opponent. In other words both will be aiming to win on Saturday and it's bit more high stakes than a league game.
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 16, 2023, 04:53:23 PM
Another league game between these two. This time Kerry are at home. Mayo won't be too upset if they lose, Kerry will. Kerry to get revenge (if you'd call it that). Nothing more to see here.............
All Ireland winner comes from one of the four counties that top their group . Lose Saturday, go home .
I disagree with the exception of the Dubs and the Galway.. Cannot seen anyone else getting close to these two. This is shadowboxing for a potential all Ireland final. I said it before and I will say it again, this Mayo team mean business in 2023.
Quote from: rrhf on May 16, 2023, 07:19:46 PM
I disagree with the exception of the Dubs and the Galway.. Cannot seen anyone else getting close to these two. This is shadowboxing for a potential all Ireland final. I said it before and I will say it again, this Mayo team mean business in 2023.
One of those teams that Mayo or Kerry could face in the All Ireland quarter final should they finish 2nd in the group. As I said before a few contenders are going to get caught out thinking they'll be grand with a 2nd or 3rd place finish in the group.
Hard to call this one 50/50 really.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 16, 2023, 09:43:19 PM
Quote from: rrhf on May 16, 2023, 07:19:46 PM
I disagree with the exception of the Dubs and the Galway.. Cannot seen anyone else getting close to these two. This is shadowboxing for a potential all Ireland final. I said it before and I will say it again, this Mayo team mean business in 2023.
One of those teams that Mayo or Kerry could face in the All Ireland quarter final should they finish 2nd in the group. As I said before a few contenders are going to get caught out thinking they'll be grand with a 2nd or 3rd place finish in the group.
Kerry and Dublin should top their group as should Derry. Galway likely to top ours but us and them in Croker i give us a fighting chance at least it won't go to penalties lol
Don't know where all the expectation coming for a Mayo win.
Mayo with a lot of changes to personnel and system this year. Got training early and did their work early in the league, beating Kerry still on holidays and Tyrone who were very out of sorts; as well as looking very inconsistent in draws to Armagh and Galway.
Would think Kerry will be 4-5 points favourite.
IS this game on RTE or GAAGO only?
QuoteIS this game on RTE or GAAGO only?
It's on the latter only, hence all the controversy.
Quote from: highorlow on May 17, 2023, 06:49:35 AM
QuoteIS this game on RTE or GAAGO only?
It's on the latter only, hence all the controversy.
Thanks. Not based in Ireland, so only aware of the controversy in an overall sense, not specific games
Jack O'Connor
"There will be an edge to the game, there's no question about it. And there'll be no holding back here, both teams will be going at it hard. We're expecting a big contest here because Mayo have a very athletic team and the stadium is a big pitch, one of the biggest pitches in the country, and it's made for running power. So we'll have a fair idea Saturday evening where we're at and how we're set."
"We're playing the cream of the crop now the next day, the winners of Division One, and a team that steamrolled us up in Castlebar, so it's going to be a big step-up in class. No question about it, we're going to have to bring our 'A' game to compete with them,"
"That was one of our most disappointing performances over the last two years up in Castlebar, so we have a lot of improving to do from that game. Saturday will give us an opportunity to see how much improvement we have made.
"We have to take every game on its merits. The Mayo game is going to be a really big game. They're going to bring massive travelling support from Mayo. They're notorious supporters, from the point of view that they back their team through thick and thin. They will bring huge support to Killarney.
Quote"There will be an edge to the game, there's no question about it. And there'll be no holding back here, both teams will be going at it hard. We're expecting a big contest here because Mayo have a very athletic team and the stadium is a big pitch, one of the biggest pitches in the country, and it's made for running power. So we'll have a fair idea Saturday evening where we're at and how we're set."
"We're playing the cream of the crop now the next day, the winners of Division One, and a team that steamrolled us up in Castlebar, so it's going to be a big step-up in class. No question about it, we're going to have to bring our 'A' game to compete with them,"
"That was one of our most disappointing performances over the last two years up in Castlebar, so we have a lot of improving to do from that game. Saturday will give us an opportunity to see how much improvement we have made.
"We have to take every game on its merits. The Mayo game is going to be a really big game. They're going to bring massive travelling support from Mayo. They're notorious supporters, from the point of view that they back their team through thick and thin. They will bring huge support to Killarney.
He is running scared and so he should be.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 17, 2023, 03:52:11 PM
Jack O'Connor
"There will be an edge to the game, there's no question about it. And there'll be no holding back here, both teams will be going at it hard. We're expecting a big contest here because Mayo have a very athletic team and the stadium is a big pitch, one of the biggest pitches in the country, and it's made for running power. So we'll have a fair idea Saturday evening where we're at and how we're set."
"We're playing the cream of the crop now the next day, the winners of Division One, and a team that steamrolled us up in Castlebar, so it's going to be a big step-up in class. No question about it, we're going to have to bring our 'A' game to compete with them,"
"That was one of our most disappointing performances over the last two years up in Castlebar, so we have a lot of improving to do from that game. Saturday will give us an opportunity to see how much improvement we have made.
"We have to take every game on its merits. The Mayo game is going to be a really big game. They're going to bring massive travelling support from Mayo. They're notorious supporters, from the point of view that they back their team through thick and thin. They will bring huge support to Killarney.
A very shrewd guy , I doubt it's escaped his news desk , Mayo support will be terrible compared to the hazy days of 2013-2017 .Kerry outnumber mayo this weekend 3:1 .
Quote from: rrhf on May 16, 2023, 07:19:46 PM
I disagree with the exception of the Dubs and the Galway.. Cannot seen anyone else getting close to these two. This is shadowboxing for a potential all Ireland final. I said it before and I will say it again, this Mayo team mean business in 2023.
Sure they mean business every year rrhf. It's the execution of that intent that lets them down, just as it will this year. It's very, very frustrating.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 17, 2023, 03:52:11 PM
Jack O'Connor
"There will be an edge to the game, there's no question about it. And there'll be no holding back here, both teams will be going at it hard. We're expecting a big contest here because Mayo have a very athletic team and the stadium is a big pitch, one of the biggest pitches in the country, and it's made for running power. So we'll have a fair idea Saturday evening where we're at and how we're set."
"We're playing the cream of the crop now the next day, the winners of Division One, and a team that steamrolled us up in Castlebar, so it's going to be a big step-up in class. No question about it, we're going to have to bring our 'A' game to compete with them,"
"That was one of our most disappointing performances over the last two years up in Castlebar, so we have a lot of improving to do from that game. Saturday will give us an opportunity to see how much improvement we have made.
"We have to take every game on its merits. The Mayo game is going to be a really big game. They're going to bring massive travelling support from Mayo. They're notorious supporters, from the point of view that they back their team through thick and thin. They will bring huge support to Killarney.
Some of the finest pure premium unadulterated yerra I've heard in a while.
Quote from: weareros on May 17, 2023, 10:47:32 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 17, 2023, 03:52:11 PM
Jack O'Connor
"There will be an edge to the game, there's no question about it. And there'll be no holding back here, both teams will be going at it hard. We're expecting a big contest here because Mayo have a very athletic team and the stadium is a big pitch, one of the biggest pitches in the country, and it's made for running power. So we'll have a fair idea Saturday evening where we're at and how we're set."
"We're playing the cream of the crop now the next day, the winners of Division One, and a team that steamrolled us up in Castlebar, so it's going to be a big step-up in class. No question about it, we're going to have to bring our 'A' game to compete with them,"
"That was one of our most disappointing performances over the last two years up in Castlebar, so we have a lot of improving to do from that game. Saturday will give us an opportunity to see how much improvement we have made.
"We have to take every game on its merits. The Mayo game is going to be a really big game. They're going to bring massive travelling support from Mayo. They're notorious supporters, from the point of view that they back their team through thick and thin. They will bring huge support to Killarney.
Some of the finest pure premium unadulterated yerra I've heard in a while.
In what context? Mayo are not a top side , Mayo won't bring an edge to the game ,bigger fields don't suit Mayo ?
QuoteIn what context? Mayo are not a top side , Mayo won't bring an edge to the game ,bigger fields don't suit Mayo ?
We are 4th favourites in the betting 7/1 shots.
We are 11/4 on Saturday for the match which appears value given recent form.
I think we have a better chance than the narrative amongst pundits are saying. It's a big test for both management and players. Killarney and in championship v Kerry is the acid test for any team with notions of Sam Maguire. A hammering will kill our year , a narrow defeat with a performance obviously better but again it's just my opinion but I firmly believe all Ireland finalists will be group winners. A win in Killarney will give them some serious bounce and the time to recover for a qf as again I think the winner of this game wins the group .
Quote from: larryin89 on May 18, 2023, 11:33:22 AM
I firmly believe all Ireland finalists will be group winners.
I think you are spot on about that, I'm of the exact same view, which is why although there is zero chance that Mayo don't qualify from Group A, this is a big game in the context of the rest of the year. Mayo are All Ireland contenders, losing to a good Roscommon team 7 days after playing a league final hasn't changed that, it's fine margins at this level.
I think it's a big ask for any county to go into Killarney and win against the champions at the moment, but really interested to see how Mayo and Tyrone go on Saturday, both have had weeks to prepare knowing that they were going to have to take on a provincial champion away, are games (regardless of the opposition level) or a block of dedicated training time the preferable way to prepare for these group stages going forward?
Kerry are the rightful favourites for Sam, until evidence suggests otherwise, so you'd have to give them the predictive nod in this game, but it would be a statement win - to say the least - if Mayo can raid the Kingdom at the weekend.
Quote from: An Fhairche Abu on May 18, 2023, 12:01:33 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 18, 2023, 11:33:22 AM
I firmly believe all Ireland finalists will be group winners.
I think you are spot on about that, I'm of the exact same view, which is why although there is zero chance that Mayo don't qualify from Group A, this is a big game in the context of the rest of the year. Mayo are All Ireland contenders, losing to a good Roscommon team 7 days after playing a league final hasn't changed that, it's fine margins at this level.
I think it's a big ask for any county to go into Killarney and win against the champions at the moment, but really interested to see how Mayo and Tyrone go on Saturday, both have had weeks to prepare knowing that they were going to have to take on a provincial champion away, are games (regardless of the opposition level) or a block of dedicated training time the preferable way to prepare for these group stages going forward?
Kerry are the rightful favourites for Sam, until evidence suggests otherwise so you'd have to give them the predictive nod in this game, but it would be a statement win - to say the least - if Mayo can raid the Kingdom at the weekend.
It would of course be massive for them, but obviously unfortunately with these groups it's far from a knock out blow and the loser will still get through to the prelim and likely a quarter final at least
I'd give Mayo a decent chance of claiming at least a draw on Saturday, Kerry during the league and even against Clare don't look as solid defensively, Clare scored 0-15 could easily have scored 2-18 the likes of Tommy Conroy, Ryan O'Donoghue will be more clinical if given simliar opportunities.
Even if Mayo lose i think they are one team that will do OK with the three games in 3 weeks as they have conditioning and strength in depth to cope better than most.
Kerry have named unchanged team from the Munster final
Shane Ryan
Tom O'Sullivan
Jason Foley
Dylan Casey
Graham O'Sullivan,
Tadhg Morley
Gavin White
Diarmuid O'Connor
Jack Barry
Dara Moynihan
Seán O'Shea
Paudie Clifford
Tony Brosnan
David Clifford
Paul Geaney
Subs
Shane Murphy
Brian Ó Beaglaoich
Adrian Spillane
Barry Dan O'Sullivan
Ruairi Murphy
Paul Murphy
Micheál Burns
Mike Breen
Stephen O'Brien
Donal O'Sullivan
Ronan Buckley
Lee keegan piece would bring ya back down to earth if ya have any notions as a mayo man thinking we could pull this off . "Significant injury worries " rumour too according to lee .If Enda hession , mcbrien , cillian , Carr and Tommy are all out , we really are doomed . Every year this seems to happen , if it's not Tommy it Ryan or both, Carr is more time injured than available .Something not right , does it happen other counties , perhaps some of the time but not all the fookin time .
Mayo (All-Ireland SFC Group Stage Round 1 v Kerry, 20/5/2023):
Colm Reape (Knockmore); Jack Coyne (Ballyhaunis), David McBrien (Ballaghaderreen), Sam Callinan (Ballina Stpehenites); Stephen Coen (Hollymount/Carramore), Conor Loftus (Crossmolina Deel Rovers), Paddy Durcan (Castlebar Mitchels, captain); Matthew Ruane (Breaffy), Diarmuid O'Connor (Ballintubber); Fionn McDonagh (Westport), Jack Carney (Kilmeena), Jordan Flynn (Crossmolina Deel Rovers); Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy), James Carr (Ardagh), Ryan O'Donoghue (Belmullet).
Substitutes: Rory Byrne (Castlebar Mitchels), Tommy Conroy (The Neale), Jason Doherty (Burrishoole), Enda Hession (Garrymore), Darren McHale (Knockmore), Donnacha McHugh (Castlebar Mitchels), Eoghan McLaughlin (Westport), Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore), Padraig O'Hora (Ballina Stephenites), Paul Towey (Charlestown Sarsfields), Bob Tuohy (Castlebar Mitchels).
Positivity restored , some of that bench are very good pacy players , Enda ,Tommy and Eoghan mcgloughlin could potentially add a serious speed dynamic coming in . Kerry still overwhelming favs f course and rightly so .
Quote from: sensini on May 18, 2023, 11:37:05 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on May 16, 2023, 03:00:50 PM
Quote from: orchardarmy02 on May 16, 2023, 02:51:02 PM
are tony brosnan and darragh moynihan the sons of eoin brosnan and seamus moynhihan?
Yes, Eoin Brosnan and Seamus Moynihan got married in 2016, when Eoin was 16 and Seamus was 43. Some people said eoin was too young to get married but love conquers all.
Straight away they had a baby boy Tony Brosnan-Moynihan and 2 years later had Darragh Moynihan-Brosnan.
LOL
In related news Seamus Moynihan's son came on as a sub against Limerick for the Kerry minors last night.
Quote from: larryin89 on May 19, 2023, 06:22:03 AM
Lee keegan piece would bring ya back down to earth if ya have any notions as a mayo man thinking we could pull this off . "Significant injury worries " rumour too according to lee .If Enda hession , mcbrien , cillian , Carr and Tommy are all out , we really are doomed . Every year this seems to happen , if it's not Tommy it Ryan or both, Carr is more time injured than available .Something not right , does it happen other counties , perhaps some of the time but not all the fookin time .
Shows that Keegan has been left in the dark since departing the Mayo panel and should know better not to believe such rumours. Mayo starting team the same that started the league final against Galway.
The time to beat Kerry is not tomorrow.
You will not beat them later if you dont beat them tomorrow. Mayo need to perform as the best team in Ireland as Dublin, Kerry etc have all been doing recently. Mayo are still my dark horse, no pint hoping to prove it in an all ireland final, convince yourself of it now. tomorrow may change that. Get on top and stay on top.
Quote from: seafoid on May 19, 2023, 02:18:42 PM
The time to beat Kerry is not tomorrow.
If Kerry get beat tomorrow I'll give ya double the odds of the bookies on them winning the all Ireland . I know I'm repeating myself but I guarantee you the all Ireland winners will come from a group winner and furthermore the runners up will be group winners too .
Scratching my head as to how Stephen Coen is holding down a place. The lad tries very hard and I am sure he has put in a ton of effort like all the other panel members, which I truly respect, but he just simply does not have the pace or finesse for intercounty football.
I hear some saying (mainly on the MayoGAABLOG), oh he is a great organizer of the backs, FFS I didnt know we needed a Bobby Moore or a Franz Beckenbauer on the Mayo team.
Todays intercounty county Championship football is so fast, there are few places to hide.
Quote from: larryin89 on May 19, 2023, 11:36:57 AM
Positivity restored , some of that bench are very good pacy players , Enda ,Tommy and Eoghan mcgloughlin could potentially add a serious speed dynamic coming in . Kerry still overwhelming favs f course and rightly so .
They would be favourites anyway as reigning AI champions but I think the venue has a big part to play in the odds for tomorrow.
Quote from: larryin89 on May 19, 2023, 06:22:03 AM
Lee keegan piece would bring ya back down to earth if ya have any notions as a mayo man thinking we could pull this off . "Significant injury worries " rumour too according to lee .If Enda hession , mcbrien , cillian , Carr and Tommy are all out , we really are doomed . Every year this seems to happen , if it's not Tommy it Ryan or both, Carr is more time injured than available .Something not right , does it happen other counties , perhaps some of the time but not all the fookin time .
Of course it happens with other counties. What doesn't happen with other counties is this constant "woe is me" craic you get with Mayo fans. Only 2 of those 5 you named would likely be actually starting on Mayos current best 15 and incidentally 4 of the 5 are named in tomorrow's panel.
Mayo had an incredibly easy run with injuries from 2011-2017. Since 2019 they've probably been a bit worse than the average luck wise. Every team gets them though and for Mayo to only have Brickenden and Harrison, two lads who'd be struggling to make the 26, as long term injuries is fairly good going. Over the years Dublin have had cruciate tears happen to McCaffrey, Bernard Brogan, Michael Daragh Mcauley, Kilkenny and Kevin o Brien. They just took it as par for the course and got on with it
The rumour was obviously false but hey fire away with that narrative about mayo support ya wanted to get off your Chesteen . Great to have supporters though , great craic , what it's all about some would say but I understand ye are all about the all Ireland . Yer just different gravy altogether to us little old mayo wans .
Quote from: Manning18 on May 19, 2023, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 19, 2023, 06:22:03 AM
Lee keegan piece would bring ya back down to earth if ya have any notions as a mayo man thinking we could pull this off . "Significant injury worries " rumour too according to lee .If Enda hession , mcbrien , cillian , Carr and Tommy are all out , we really are doomed . Every year this seems to happen , if it's not Tommy it Ryan or both, Carr is more time injured than available .Something not right , does it happen other counties , perhaps some of the time but not all the fookin time .
Of course it happens with other counties. What doesn't happen with other counties is this constant "woe is me" craic you get with Mayo fans. Only 2 of those 5 you named would likely be actually starting on Mayos current best 15 and incidentally 4 of the 5 are named in tomorrow's panel.
Mayo had an incredibly easy run with injuries from 2011-2017. Since 2019 they've probably been a bit worse than the average luck wise. Every team gets them though and for Mayo to only have Brickenden and Harrison, two lads who'd be struggling to make the 26, as long term injuries is fairly good going. Over the years Dublin have had cruciate tears happen to McCaffrey, Bernard Brogan, Michael Daragh Mcauley, Kilkenny and Kevin o Brien. They just took it as par for the course and got on with it
I think there is a thing in the GAA where the GAA media reporting of injuries especially if they aren't the main men tends to be fairly sparse.
Most of the time it is the local GAA media in each county who tend to have a far better handle on the state of injuries in their county's team.
By comparison unless it is a "star name player" who is injured, the national media tend to be fairly poor in assessing the level of injuries in each squad.
This means every county tends to overestimate how bad they have it compared to other counties.
Quote from: seafoid on May 19, 2023, 02:18:42 PM
The time to beat Kerry is not tomorrow.
Mayo are very unlikely to meet Kerry again until the final given the rules around the various draws up until then.
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 19, 2023, 05:35:06 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 19, 2023, 02:18:42 PM
The time to beat Kerry is not tomorrow.
Mayo are very unlikely to meet Kerry again until the final given the rules around the various draws up until then.
It's like beating Limerick. If they are beaten they will have to fix something and you don't want that.
Quote from: larryin89 on May 19, 2023, 04:40:10 PM
The rumour was obviously false but hey fire away with that narrative about mayo support ya wanted to get off your Chesteen . Great to have supporters though , great craic , what it's all about some would say but I understand ye are all about the all Ireland . Yer just different gravy altogether to us little old mayo wans .
Strange one to be espousing the Mayo support on the weekend they're supposedly bringing their least amount of fans for many a year to Killarney. The cost of living crises hitting hard up there? There's no soccer/rugby/hurling to distract, so it's a strange one for the self anointed "best fans in Ireland"
Quote from: Manning18 on May 19, 2023, 06:02:13 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 19, 2023, 04:40:10 PM
The rumour was obviously false but hey fire away with that narrative about mayo support ya wanted to get off your Chesteen . Great to have supporters though , great craic , what it's all about some would say but I understand ye are all about the all Ireland . Yer just different gravy altogether to us little old mayo wans .
Strange one to be espousing the Mayo support on the weekend they're supposedly bringing their least amount of fans for many a year to Killarney. The cost of living crises hitting hard up there? There's no soccer/rugby/hurling to distract, so it's a strange one for the self anointed "best fans in Ireland"
I am sure that is a bit of a factor.
also the same supporters will have to go to Limerick for a possible knockout game V Cork in three weeks, then a week later another non home game V (hopefully) a third seeded team, then Croke Park the week after that for a Q/Final. All assuming we can get to a Q/Final.
I think Kerry only began training seriously after the Portugese training camp and they will be keen to win this in order to avoid Dublin and Galway in a quarter final. Kerry to win by 6-7 points.
This video from 2014 represents the high point of Mayo power in Connacht for me
It always goes in circles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9In3bD0D4n8
Quote from: Manning18 on May 19, 2023, 06:02:13 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 19, 2023, 04:40:10 PM
The rumour was obviously false but hey fire away with that narrative about mayo support ya wanted to get off your Chesteen . Great to have supporters though , great craic , what it's all about some would say but I understand ye are all about the all Ireland . Yer just different gravy altogether to us little old mayo wans .
Strange one to be espousing the Mayo support on the weekend they're supposedly bringing their least amount of fans for many a year to Killarney. The cost of living crises hitting hard up there? There's no soccer/rugby/hurling to distract, so it's a strange one for the self anointed "best fans in Ireland"
Ah, the Football is a dead squib! Nobody cares who wins on Sunday or what ever day it's on. RTE don't even care to show the game. Jez it's as boring as feck. The GAA went from a decent League competion to a half arsed provincial competition where no-one is rewarded bar the provincial winners to another League competition.
maybe they not going in big numbers as its not knockout
Quote from: seafoid on May 20, 2023, 11:40:26 AM
This video from 2014 represents the high point of Mayo power in Connacht for me
It always goes in circles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9In3bD0D4n8
Galway were a bit of a joke in those days. Took a fair bit of heavy lifting from Kevin Walsh to get Galway back competitive again . Circles or Cycles? Either way. I'm not sure about this.
Quote from: Eire90 on May 20, 2023, 01:22:16 PM
maybe they not going in big numbers as its not knockout
That plus you have 2 games closer to home coming up plus charging €25....
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 20, 2023, 01:27:32 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 20, 2023, 11:40:26 AM
This video from 2014 represents the high point of Mayo power in Connacht for me
It always goes in circles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9In3bD0D4n8
Galway were a bit of a joke in those days. Took a fair bit of heavy lifting from Kevin Walsh to get Galway back competitive again . Circles or Cycles? Either way. I'm not sure about this.
They were a long was from being a serious team and took a long time to turn it around
Rumours still flying around about Mayo injuries, Lee Keegan might be right yet, Should be confirmed in the next hour or so.
3 changes to the Mayo starting team confirmed. out Paddy Durcan,Stephen Coen,Fionn McDonagh out and in Donnacha McHugh,Padraig o'Hora,Jason Doherty
Starting team now
Colm Reape;
Jack Coyne, David McBrien, Sam Callinan;
Padraig O'Hora, Conor Loftus, Donnacha McHugh;
Mattie Ruane, Diarmuid O'Connor
Jason Doherty, Jack Carney, Jordan Flynn
Aidan O'Shea, James Carr, Ryan O'Donoghue.
No interest in this game it seems🙄
Two goal chances in the opening few minutes for Mayo was saved. They get the first score of the a game (a point)
Mayo forced the Kerry goalie into 2 saves already
0-3 each after 13 minutes.
Strange game so far... very open but a lot of mistakes as well.
22 mins it took Mayo to kick a wide that's rare enough. Mayo 0-7 Kerry 0-3 after 25 mins.
Mark O Se cannot shut up as co commentator
Awful lot of frees but end to end stuff decent so far some good scores but some very poor defending particularly from Kerry!
Mayo up by 5
Kerry goalkeeper has made three point blank saves
The 34 points victories in the Munster training spins coming home to roost for Kerry.
Rhus could only score 10 pts in 70 minutes against us.
You'd imagine there's a kick in Kerry and Mayo will regret not putting Kerry away, they should be much further ahead. Hurson has been sore on Mayo imo. Kerry looking extremely rusty but Mayo much better.
Kerry have been very poor so far great to see it definitely levels things out and adds Mayo into the mix for the All Ireland!
Hurson must have a summer house in Killarney.
Never ever ever a free for Clifford there. Loves centre of attention
Quote from: 5times5times on May 20, 2023, 04:02:10 PM
Hurson must have a summer house in Killarney.
Never ever ever a free for Clifford there. Loves centre of attention
It's not just Hurson he gets the handy frees from.
That would have been goal of the season already had Clifford scored. Some pass from his brother earlier in the move.
Kerry seem to be replicating their League form.
Kerry wasteful with their goal chances in this half, 3 saved or blocked.
Quote from: seafoid on May 20, 2023, 04:10:30 PM
Kerry seem to be replicating their League form.
As David Brady would say, they're in a downward spiral.
;D
Goalies doing well today.
Quote from: armaghniac on May 20, 2023, 04:14:38 PM
Goalies doing well today.
They certainly are some amount of goal chances created in this match. 53 mins played Kerry 0-12 Mayo 0-15
Mark o se
Please stop talking
Could they not have found a neutral co-commentator. I have no gripe with O'Se as an individual but he shouldn't be covering a Kerry match
GAA Go, and don't come back.
Mayo goal!
Very impressive from the neighbours.
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on May 20, 2023, 04:23:49 PM
Mayo goal!
Can't say it wasn't coming. Mayo six in front getting more impact out of their bench.
Ah sugar...
Looks like a Rhu victory now .
Aidan O Se having one of his best games. He gets fouled so much but refs don't give them to the big man
Kerry 0-16 Mayo 1-18. 2 minutes of normal time left.
Kerry 0-17 Mayo 1-19 very good win for Mayo and good value for that margin of victory. Back to drawing board for Kerry especially defensively
That's a big win for Mayo and one I didn't expect. Should give them a smoother passage to a semi final and if they weren't contenders before now then they definitely are now as it's not easy to go to killarney and beat Kerry in championship.
Yes yes yes
Huge win
QuoteI think Kerry only began training seriously after the Portugese training camp and they will be keen to win this in order to avoid Dublin and Galway in a quarter final. Kerry to win by 6-7 points
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Well done Mayo. We have beaten Kerry home and away in League games now.
The Journey home from Killarney will be a lot shorter!
Needless to say this won't go down well in Kerry.
Great to go to Fitzgerald field and win by 5. Onwards and upwards.
It's very open this year
Quote from: yellowcard on May 20, 2023, 04:39:26 PM
That's a big win for Mayo and one I didn't expect. Should give them a smoother passage to a semi final and if they weren't contenders before now then they definitely are now as it's not easy to go to killarney and beat Kerry in championship.
The odds will be interesting after today, taken out the All Ireland favourites by a bit to spare in their back yard. Mayo as strong as any contender left and strength in depth seen today with the bench impact compared to Kerry today.
Quote from: seafoid on May 20, 2023, 04:46:18 PM
It's very open this year
This is still
tippy-tappy stuff. It's a great result for Mayo in regards going straight to the QF's. Kerry will be a lot more dangerous as the weeks progress. Nothing was won or lost today.
Quote from: highorlow on May 20, 2023, 04:41:19 PM
QuoteI think Kerry only began training seriously after the Portugese training camp and they will be keen to win this in order to avoid Dublin and Galway in a quarter final. Kerry to win by 6-7 points
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Why would you wait until after your training camp to start training??
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 20, 2023, 04:51:05 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 20, 2023, 04:46:18 PM
It's very open this year
This is still tippy-tappy stuff. It's a great result for Mayo in regards going straight to the QF's. Kerry will be a lot more dangerous as the weeks progress. Nothing was won or lost today.
Kerry lost momentum
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 20, 2023, 04:51:05 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 20, 2023, 04:46:18 PM
It's very open this year
This is still tippy-tappy stuff. It's a great result for Mayo in regards going straight to the QF's. Kerry will be a lot more dangerous as the weeks progress. Nothing was won or lost today.
Wouldn't underestimate significance of that result for both teams today.
Mayo's All Ireland title to lose now!
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 20, 2023, 05:20:10 PM
Mayo's All Ireland title to lose now!
Based on beating the AI Favourites (who are still in the Championship) in a League game?
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 20, 2023, 05:22:40 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 20, 2023, 05:20:10 PM
Mayo's All Ireland title to lose now!
Based on beating the AI Favourites (who are still in the Championship) in a League game?
That and studying the new championship format a bit better than you.
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 20, 2023, 05:22:40 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 20, 2023, 05:20:10 PM
Mayo's All Ireland title to lose now!
Based on beating the AI Favourites (who are still in the Championship) in a League game?
How is it a league game though ? Not saying we are now favs for Sam but to downplay that win against the X factor county in their home ground where they haven't lost a championship game in 28 yrs is potty . They are sick and mayo proved to me and everyone else today they are right in the mix .
Quote from: larryin89 on May 20, 2023, 05:36:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 20, 2023, 05:22:40 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 20, 2023, 05:20:10 PM
Mayo's All Ireland title to lose now!
Based on beating the AI Favourites (who are still in the Championship) in a League game?
How is it a league game though ? Not saying we are now favs for Sam but to downplay that win against the X factor county in their home ground where they haven't lost a championship game in 28 yrs is potty . They are sick and mayo proved to me and everyone else today they are right in the mix .
Was todays game knock-out? How many of Kerry's previous Championship games in the last 28 years were
not Knockout? Don't get me wrong it's great to beat Kerry and it sets us up nicely. Lets not loose the run of ourselves.
That's a hard place to win a game of football, Mayo should top the group now. Kerry otherwise been off the pace all year.
I can see a Derry v Kerry quarter final coming
Mayo superb and should have won by a lot more.
Can't understand anyone talking down that result, went into Killarney and were better in every line of the pitch, only fault you could give them is that Mayo should have won that by 12 or 13 points, they were that superior and missed some really good goal chances.
If they play that way every other day left in the championship they will be hard stopped, a statement win.
Good display by Mayo & McStay on the line. Kerry have no midfield and have a vastly overrated player in Sean o Shea, good free taker but is a passenger mostly in games. No intensity or momentum in that Kerry side, take out D Clifford and you have a poor side.
I move O:Shea to cornerforward, he's a good scorer but been bad a few yrs now.
Quote from: DhoireTheas on May 20, 2023, 07:40:18 PM
I can see a Derry v Kerry quarter final coming
Let them at it!
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 21, 2023, 12:04:43 AM
I move O:Shea to cornerforeard, he's a good scorer but been bad a few yrs now.
A very good free taker. Beyond that doesn't offer much more at the minute.
Quote from: square_ball on May 21, 2023, 07:57:20 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 21, 2023, 12:04:43 AM
I move O:Shea to cornerforeard, he's a good scorer but been bad a few yrs now.
A very good free taker. Beyond that doesn't offer much more at the minute.
This satire ?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 21, 2023, 12:04:43 AM
I move O:Shea to cornerforward, he's a good scorer but been bad a few yrs now.
Or maybe full-forward, if it doesn't work then he must be dropped as he is bringing nothing other than frees & 45s which he is missing more off since 2019.
Quote from: larryin89 on May 21, 2023, 11:06:21 AM
Quote from: square_ball on May 21, 2023, 07:57:20 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 21, 2023, 12:04:43 AM
I move O:Shea to cornerforeard, he's a good scorer but been bad a few yrs now.
A very good free taker. Beyond that doesn't offer much more at the minute.
This satire ?
No.
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 20, 2023, 05:45:53 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 20, 2023, 05:36:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 20, 2023, 05:22:40 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 20, 2023, 05:20:10 PM
Mayo's All Ireland title to lose now!
Based on beating the AI Favourites (who are still in the Championship) in a League game?
How is it a league game though ? Not saying we are now favs for Sam but to downplay that win against the X factor county in their home ground where they haven't lost a championship game in 28 yrs is potty . They are sick and mayo proved to me and everyone else today they are right in the mix .
Was todays game knock-out? How many of Kerry's previous Championship games in the last 28 years were not Knockout? Don't get me wrong it's great to beat Kerry and it sets us up nicely. Lets not loose the run of ourselves.
Spot on Bunker.
Quote from: Manning18 on May 19, 2023, 06:02:13 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 19, 2023, 04:40:10 PM
The rumour was obviously false but hey fire away with that narrative about mayo support ya wanted to get off your Chesteen . Great to have supporters though , great craic , what it's all about some would say but I understand ye are all about the all Ireland . Yer just different gravy altogether to us little old mayo wans .
Strange one to be espousing the Mayo support on the weekend they're supposedly bringing their least amount of fans for many a year to Killarney. The cost of living crises hitting hard up there? There's no soccer/rugby/hurling to distract, so it's a strange one for the self anointed "best fans in Ireland"
You're one sour individual, on here constantly sniping away. I've often been in Croke Park when there's been over 40,000 Mayo supporters present, yet you're willing to let a few clowns on social media paint a picture for you of the entire group....
As for the game itself, the most pleasing aspect was the game management. Kerry came back with with a third quarter push but we never really looked like letting them back into it. We held on to possession when needed which wouldn't always have been a strong point. It's good to be back as contender again anyway.
Quote from: larryin89 on May 21, 2023, 11:06:21 AM
Quote from: square_ball on May 21, 2023, 07:57:20 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 21, 2023, 12:04:43 AM
I move O:Shea to cornerforeard, he's a good scorer but been bad a few yrs now.
A very good free taker. Beyond that doesn't offer much more at the minute.
This satire ?
Was he not playing super stuff in the league for Kerry last year ? - his form seems to have just dropped off a cliff this year.
There was one bit of the game against Mayo when he had a head-start of about 3/5 metres on one of the Mayo players and the Mayo player beat him to it.
I thought watching it that he looked like a fella who is not fully fit/was afraid of going full speed.
Have to say Mayo were extremely impressive. The direct style of early ball inside is great to watch.
Where Mayo have struggled is where teams park the bus inside their 45 and don't allow that quick ball.
That will be the challenge for them I think.
But nobody will want to draw them in the knock out stages.
The Kerry defence were made to look so poor, now I know Mayo put them under enormous pressure higher the pitch then anyone will and turned them on so many occasions but even when they had a set defence Mayo still managed to find a way through like McLaughlin's goal, the sweeper was just so slow to react. Can see from the tackling stats that Mayo outworked Kerry but just might be the kick Kerry need. Kerry will be looking for a bit of luck in the preliminary draw, if they do make it through then lets hope for a Kerry Dublin quarter final.
Mayo were outstanding and it should have been game over by half time.
Mayo in a great place, should make the quarter final without exerting too much energy and know they'll avoid Kerry too.
Haven't got to watch the match yet but how did David Clifford do?
Quote from: JimStynes on May 22, 2023, 02:09:34 PM
Haven't got to watch the match yet but how did David Clifford do?
Unmarkable really. Could/should have scored at least 1 goal, that would be the only disappointment in his own display. Scored 7 or 8 points.
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 22, 2023, 09:07:23 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on May 21, 2023, 11:06:21 AM
Quote from: square_ball on May 21, 2023, 07:57:20 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 21, 2023, 12:04:43 AM
I move O:Shea to cornerforeard, he's a good scorer but been bad a few yrs now.
A very good free taker. Beyond that doesn't offer much more at the minute.
This satire ?
Was he not playing super stuff in the league for Kerry last year ? - his form seems to have just dropped off a cliff this year.
There was one bit of the game against Mayo when he had a head-start of about 3/5 metres on one of the Mayo players and the Mayo player beat him to it.
I thought watching it that he looked like a fella who is not fully fit/was afraid of going full speed.
He's a top player and one most certainly doesn't underestimate the importance of a good free taker but he looks way off the pace at the moment. Biggest issue for Kerry is they haven't replaced David Moran in midfield. The defence that played a big part in winning the All Ireland last year is structurally broken at the moment. This was very noticeable in the Munster final whereby Clare scored 0-15 and really should have scored about 2-20, the same Clare scored 0-9 against out of sort Donegal yesterday.
Kerry are like a lot of defending All Ireland champions over the years (Apart of Jim Gavin's Dublin) they are having a hangover and will do well to lift it again, They should beat Cork,Louth but it won't surprise me if they make their exit from this championship in similar fashion to that defeat on Saturday.
sean o'shea seriously lacking pace. no agility about him at all.
thought it was interesting that mayo didn't really preoccupy themselves with containing clifford like many teams do. they left him to have at it and just backed themselves to outscore kerry the other end, which they did. there is a bit of complacency among the kerry front 6. they seem to sort of expect clifford to do it all and i sense mayo knew this complacency was there. the mayo backs were jaunting up and down the pitch knowing full well none of those kerry forwards would track them. having a talisman is a blessing and a curse - kerry will never be far off while clifford is fit but on the other hand, the balance of the team is totally off and a lack of responsibility from a few individuals rearing its head.