China Coronavirus

[J70]

Brilliant post Puckoon. I'm sorry to hear about your health struggles. I'm in a high risk category, but thankfully my bout was limited to several days of really bad flu-type symptoms. Others in my immediate and extended family were hospitalized and in one case, died.

You're absolutely correct on Fauci and what the GOP ghouls are doing. From the Bunker talks about parallel universes, well those scumbags like MTG live publicly in land of make believe, because they're either extremely stupid or extremely cynical.

[Milltown Row2]

No one in our house of 5 got any of the Covid Vaccines.

They were proven to be basically useless as they did not stop you getting it or passing it on.

I could not understand someone putting a experimental foreign agent into your body that basically had no effect on the virus.

One of the Biggest Pharmaceutical con-jobs in human history.

The Virus effectively weakened itself.

I learned a lot about Hype, Media control, Governments, Society, etc over those 2 years. It was a hugely educational time. I learned that you could be living in a parallel universe to many.

I look at the Gazza situation (notice I don't call it a war like the Mainstream Media) and see many similarities to how media can control the narritive.

Ireland has a fairly decent opinion of what is going on. And you can imagine the lies that are being spread in the rest of the Western World to hide what is a Genocide happing in broad daylight.

Do you take any big pharma products at all?

If you see something on tv news, whatever platform, do you believe it or do you think that media platform is trying to fool you? If that's the case, how do you know it's real?

[Substandard]

One thing I think is funny is how trying to recall anything in the past 10 years is muddled because it feels as if the mind has blanked those couple of years out, so it messes with calculations.
I did the masks and more or less the social distancing (far easier out the country, I honestly don't think I'd have managed living in town or an estate anywhere as well).
I think the vast majority complied with whatever was suggested out of a sense of 'the greater good', and took offialdom at face value.  As it went along, and there was a growing push-back, it was interesting to see the different dynamics.  I remember stopping at a motorway filling station while masks were still mandatory, but more and more were abandoning them.  5 lads, maskless, early or mid 20s, hardy looking hures, almost like they were stalking around the filling station willing someone to say something.
I read about it a lot, here especially.  I did 2 rounds of the vaccine, but stopped at that.  I adopted a few conspiracy theories.  My main one was, what if this was just a trial run? To see how governments and populations would act?  What if there was a main course coming down the track?
I got one proper dose that knocked me out for 2 days- never particularly sick, but zero energy.  Up for an hour to do something,  then bed for 2 hours.  A week off work, but after it felt great because it felt like a month off, I'd slept so often!
When it started with news and numbers this week, if felt like 'yeah, whatever'.  It put me thinking,  supposing they came out next week with Covid 20, or Omnicron Part Deux- what would be the reaction to renewed restrictions and lockdowns?  I'd imagine the only way it would work would be if people were looking at 20% plus mortality, because numbers and cases wouldn't suffice without seeing at a local level, God forbid.
May you live in interesting times- I think I've seen or lived through enough interesting times in the last 7 or 8 years to last a lifetime,  either a vaccinated or unvaccinated one!

[Puckoon]

Thank you J70 and JoG2. It has been a wild ride. Don't mind admitting I suffered from some mental health issues during that time. My childhood best friend took his life in Feb 2020, which broke my heart -  and it all compounded from there I am sure as well. I went from a fighting fit 39 year old to a sedentary, out of shape 43 year old. Some of it was self induced for sure, but I Never saw it coming. I wish everyone all the best at all the times, I am a peace loving hippy. I can just never accept that AF spent his 50 year career working towards manipulating humanity and trying to get trump loving nutjobs into masks against their will as his career zenith. Literally makes no sense to anyone who can think for themselves. Which is the irony that we hear from those who 'want to think for themselves'.

God Speed.

[theskull1]

• Covid started becoming a thing in Wuhan China
• Tony Fauci funded Eco Health Alliance (ran by Peter Daszak ) who then provided funding to the Wuhan institute of Virology to study corona virus's
• Tony, Peter and several other top virologists (all heavily funded by Fauci led NIH) were involved in the investigation into the initial outbreak and Daszak then joined the WHO team tasked to investigate further the origins ... the solid conclusion was it came from a food market and not a lab.

For just this one part of what Fauci was involved in, it doesn't make sense to me that you appear to be blind to the massive conflicts of interest potential here (coupled with the fact that this was allowed to play out in this manner by all institutions of power without critique) and not at the very least have an uneasy feeling about whether these people should be trusted. 

[Keyser soze]

Some mad theories from people who were otherwise superficially sensible individuals before Covid struck. I know a few people personally who are completely off their trolley believing any oul crap they read on SM.

Lads who wouldn't pass GCSE in science subject lecturing about RNA vaccines ffs.

You can be sure this was just a trial run though, for the virus that is.

The world's population has quadrupled to nearly 8 billion in a century with advances in technology and medicine being the main reasons for this rapid growth, the widespread introduction of vaccines and antibiotics playing major roles.

However nature has a way of taking care of things like overpopulation, and my money is on it being the micro warriors that will bring populations down to a more sustainable level.

It has taken a while for viruses to mount a serious attack, but their ability to adapt is implacable and it is only a matter of time before the right combination of lethality and spreadability comes along to shatter our air of invincibility.

[J70]

• Covid started becoming a thing in Wuhan China
• Tony Fauci funded Eco Health Alliance (ran by Peter Daszak ) who then provided funding to the Wuhan institute of Virology to study corona virus's
• Tony, Peter and several other top virologists (all heavily funded by Fauci led NIH) were involved in the investigation into the initial outbreak and Daszak then joined the WHO team tasked to investigate further the origins ... the solid conclusion was it came from a food market and not a lab.

For just this one part of what Fauci was involved in, it doesn't make sense to me that you appear to be blind to the massive conflicts of interest potential here (coupled with the fact that this was allowed to play out in this manner by all institutions of power without critique) and not at the very least have an uneasy feeling about whether these people should be trusted. 

1.    Fauci was the head of the NIAID. They are a 1500 employee agency with an annual budget in the billions funding primary scientific research into all kinds of infectious diseases. You reckon he was intimately involved in this particular piece of research in China being subsidized by a non-profit who received funding from the large agency he headed?

2.    Fauci didn't deny that the lab leak was a possibility and still doesn't. As a scientist, I'd imagine he knows better, unlike politicians who use stuff like this as a political football and whose followers don't really care if the shite the politician was riling them up with last year turned out to be a complete load of bollocks.

3.    What "massive conflicts of interest" are you on about?

[Last Man]

AF loves to promote his message through fear, he has previous during the so called "Aids crisis". His description of some people's reticence in regards to this experimental treatment as "ideological bullshit" and how they should be prevented from employment in large corporations or excluded from education, like how is this any of hisfeicing business!!
His mild mannered paternal outward persona belies a very disturbing human.

[J70]

How was it any of his business? He was only trying to get the country back to work for good as the omicron wave was blowing up!

And he was absolutely correct with the "idealogical bullshit" statement. Can't speak for Ireland, but in the US it absolutely broke down along partisan political lines, just like the rest of the public response to the pandemic measures and indeed life in general now.

[theskull1]

"What's potential conflict of interest?"

[J70]

I watched it. I'm still not much wiser to the point.

But, it's Friday, and its been a long week, so I may be a bit dumber than my normal dumb self.

[RedHand88]

I also watched and am still none the wiser. Why does the poster trust this media? Doesn't it have an agenda same as the other outlets he mentioned?

[cryptoGuy]

Safe and Effective

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0kj1pmr7jdo

[Milltown Row2]

Safe and Effective

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0kj1pmr7jdo

Vaccines, any vaccines are not full proof, as far as I known you were not forced to do it.

[Last Man]

Safe and Effective

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0kj1pmr7jdo

Vaccines, any vaccines are not full proof, as far as I known you were not forced to do it.

Except for the bit where you were classed as a pariah and a granny killer or that your life would be in some way curtailed.
If all these side effects had been stated beforehand would you still have taken it?
Personally I wouldnt have but that's just me.