Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

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Rossfan

#9810
To make Burdy and the Yank's day

https://www.rte.ie/news/elections-2024/2024/0610/1454057-migrant-councillors/

Good to see people integrating into our society.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

whitey

So would, let's say.....Michael McNamara's (or Peadar Toibins) views on migration be acceptable to the posters on here?

Or is he also part of the (mythical) "far right"?


https://www.newstalk.com/news/state-is-failing-to-enforce-its-own-immigration-rules-michael-mcnamara-td-1634712


burdizzo

Quote from: Itchy on June 11, 2024, 08:03:00 AMYes based on polls at the time. But I was wrong about that and no issue admitting it. I was not wrong however at there being little support for far right parties when they should be at the height of their vote, especially when you look at gains the far right are making in mainland Europe.

"Little support"? According to one figure I saw, anti mass-immigration candidates got 15% in the Dublin euros. I don't know what it is for the other constituencies, but Derek Blighe did surprisingly well in South, and there's the IFP, too. What did SF get?!

Why should right-thinking parties be at their height? The mainstream media and major political parties refused to talk about mass-immigration for a long time. Sinn Fein KEPT insisting "it's all about housing". Hah! Sinn Fein are pure dishonest on the issue, and it's been their undoing. Good.

The right-thinking movement in this country is only getting going. The various parties and individuals are still jockeying for position. At the moment, there's too many little factions and big egos. One will emerge from the crowd.

In other European countries, the right parties are well established. Countries such as France and The Netherlands, Germany, too, have been subject to forced diversity for longer than we have, and people are starting to see it's one-way street.


RedHand88

Quote from: burdizzo on June 11, 2024, 10:55:49 AM
Quote from: Itchy on June 11, 2024, 08:03:00 AMYes based on polls at the time. But I was wrong about that and no issue admitting it. I was not wrong however at there being little support for far right parties when they should be at the height of their vote, especially when you look at gains the far right are making in mainland Europe.

"Little support"? According to one figure I saw, anti mass-immigration candidates got 15% in the Dublin euros. I don't know what it is for the other constituencies, but Derek Blighe did surprisingly well in South, and there's the IFP, too. What did SF get?!

Why should right-thinking parties be at their height? The mainstream media and major political parties refused to talk about mass-immigration for a long time. Sinn Fein KEPT insisting "it's all about housing". Hah! Sinn Fein are pure dishonest on the issue, and it's been their undoing. Good.

The right-thinking movement in this country is only getting going. The various parties and individuals are still jockeying for position. At the moment, there's too many little factions and big egos. One will emerge from the crowd.

In other European countries, the right parties are well established. Countries such as France and The Netherlands, Germany, too, have been subject to forced diversity for longer than we have, and people are starting to see it's one-way street.



So 85% of people did not vote for them. Gotcha.

Itchy

Quote from: burdizzo on June 11, 2024, 10:55:49 AM
Quote from: Itchy on June 11, 2024, 08:03:00 AMYes based on polls at the time. But I was wrong about that and no issue admitting it. I was not wrong however at there being little support for far right parties when they should be at the height of their vote, especially when you look at gains the far right are making in mainland Europe.

"Little support"? According to one figure I saw, anti mass-immigration candidates got 15% in the Dublin euros. I don't know what it is for the other constituencies, but Derek Blighe did surprisingly well in South, and there's the IFP, too. What did SF get?!

Why should right-thinking parties be at their height? The mainstream media and major political parties refused to talk about mass-immigration for a long time. Sinn Fein KEPT insisting "it's all about housing". Hah! Sinn Fein are pure dishonest on the issue, and it's been their undoing. Good.

The right-thinking movement in this country is only getting going. The various parties and individuals are still jockeying for position. At the moment, there's too many little factions and big egos. One will emerge from the crowd.

In other European countries, the right parties are well established. Countries such as France and The Netherlands, Germany, too, have been subject to forced diversity for longer than we have, and people are starting to see it's one-way street.



When your finished talking shite, let me know how many councillors far right parties got. Sinn Fein with a poor showing are at 100. Then let me know how many MEPs far right got in Ireland. The people rejected completely your bullshit racism and instead went for the status quo of FF and FG. That's is the facts of it.

whitey

Quote from: Itchy on June 11, 2024, 01:55:25 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on June 11, 2024, 10:55:49 AM
Quote from: Itchy on June 11, 2024, 08:03:00 AMYes based on polls at the time. But I was wrong about that and no issue admitting it. I was not wrong however at there being little support for far right parties when they should be at the height of their vote, especially when you look at gains the far right are making in mainland Europe.

"Little support"? According to one figure I saw, anti mass-immigration candidates got 15% in the Dublin euros. I don't know what it is for the other constituencies, but Derek Blighe did surprisingly well in South, and there's the IFP, too. What did SF get?!

Why should right-thinking parties be at their height? The mainstream media and major political parties refused to talk about mass-immigration for a long time. Sinn Fein KEPT insisting "it's all about housing". Hah! Sinn Fein are pure dishonest on the issue, and it's been their undoing. Good.

The right-thinking movement in this country is only getting going. The various parties and individuals are still jockeying for position. At the moment, there's too many little factions and big egos. One will emerge from the crowd.

In other European countries, the right parties are well established. Countries such as France and The Netherlands, Germany, too, have been subject to forced diversity for longer than we have, and people are starting to see it's one-way street.



When your finished talking shite, let me know how many councillors far right parties got. Sinn Fein with a poor showing are at 100. Then let me know how many MEPs far right got in Ireland. The people rejected completely your bullshit racism and instead went for the status quo of FF and FG. That's is the facts of it.

Good man Itchy

Keep the torch lit

LOL-this election was an unmitigated disaster for Sinn Fein-a party that were polling at 35% just a few months ago.

There's even talk of a heave against Mary Loo.

FWIW-I don't recall anyone predicting the "far right" was going to sweep to power. I recall people like me predicting  that on a good day they might get 10-15% of FPV and that seems to have happened

Rossfan

The nazifascists got 4 seats I believe.
The rest got 950.

A stunning victory for burdy and the yank ::)
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

whitey

Quote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2024, 03:27:49 PMThe nazifascists got 4 seats I believe.
The rest got 950.

A stunning victory for burdy and the yank ::)

10-15 % was a stunning victory

I think some of the sages on here were predicting < 5%

Then factor in Aontu who are far right on immigration (by the standards of this board) and you're up into the 20s

Thank you for your kind words


Truthsayer

Quote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2024, 03:27:49 PMThe nazifascists got 4 seats I believe.
The rest got 950.

A stunning victory for burdy and the yank ::)
True dat! The Tommy Robinson fan club just shower irritants going nowhere.

Itchy

Quote from: whitey on June 11, 2024, 03:32:25 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2024, 03:27:49 PMThe nazifascists got 4 seats I believe.
The rest got 950.

A stunning victory for burdy and the yank ::)

10-15 % was a stunning victory

I think some of the sages on here were predicting < 5%

Then factor in Aontu who are far right on immigration (by the standards of this board) and you're up into the 20s

Thank you for your kind words



Aontu aren't far right lad. But sure if you think right = far right you might as well claim victory fir FF and FG too. Sure if you think about it far right got 60% of the vote.

I'm not denying SF had a very bad election btw

whitey

Quote from: Itchy on June 11, 2024, 04:04:27 PM
Quote from: whitey on June 11, 2024, 03:32:25 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2024, 03:27:49 PMThe nazifascists got 4 seats I believe.
The rest got 950.

A stunning victory for burdy and the yank ::)

10-15 % was a stunning victory

I think some of the sages on here were predicting < 5%

Then factor in Aontu who are far right on immigration (by the standards of this board) and you're up into the 20s

Thank you for your kind words



Aontu aren't far right lad. But sure if you think right = far right you might as well claim victory fir FF and FG too. Sure if you think about it far right got 60% of the vote.

I'm not denying SF had a very bad election btw

Never said they were far right

I said that their stance on migration would be considered far right by the standards of this board

A sizable percentage of the Aontu vote would be an anti migration vote and that is proven by their transfer
Patterns to far right candidates


marty34

#9821
There's a good few political parties in the south - is there too many?

No difference between FF/FG. They're basically one party now.  In government and working together.  Their share of vote has fallen badly over the past 15 years.  Plus this time they together get about 25% of the electorate. Not great.

Soc Dem and Labour are the same - apart from personality clashes at the top.

SF need to have a review asap and see what they stand for.  They increased their votes but not as expected. One election, not enough candidates while the next one, too many. Why are they not reading the mood music?

Loads of independents of varying shades from big names to local issue candidates.

I know it was local elections and European and all that goes with that but there is a racist fringe that is creeping in unfortunately.  This will continue to happen.  As we see in Europe, it builds up gradually over a longer period of time.

What does every part stand for?

This said, how the heck does America only have 2 political parties (if I'm correct?)?


burdizzo

They do have more than that - Libertarians, for example - but only two that count. I assume it has to do w/ the binary voting system? Much like the UK.

Main Street

Quote from: burdizzo on June 11, 2024, 10:55:49 AM
Quote from: Itchy on June 11, 2024, 08:03:00 AMYes based on polls at the time. But I was wrong about that and no issue admitting it. I was not wrong however at there being little support for far right parties when they should be at the height of their vote, especially when you look at gains the far right are making in mainland Europe.

"Little support"? According to one figure I saw, anti mass-immigration candidates got 15% in the Dublin euros. I don't know what it is for the other constituencies, but Derek Blighe did surprisingly well in South, and there's the IFP, too. What did SF get?!

Why should right-thinking parties be at their height? The mainstream media and major political parties refused to talk about mass-immigration for a long time. Sinn Fein KEPT insisting "it's all about housing". Hah! Sinn Fein are pure dishonest on the issue, and it's been their undoing. Good.

The right-thinking movement in this country is only getting going. The various parties and individuals are still jockeying for position. At the moment, there's too many little factions and big egos. One will emerge from the crowd.

In other European countries, the right parties are well established. Countries such as France and The Netherlands, Germany, too, have been subject to forced diversity for longer than we have, and people are starting to see it's one-way street.



I wouldn't believe all  that is written on toilet paper.
15% me hole :D

Dublin Euro result
The Irish peoples fascist party 0.5%
National Socialist Party 0.7%
Irish Freedom Fascists 0.9%
Ireland First Fascists 1.2%
Malachai  1.9%



Saffrongael

What next for Michelle Gildernew ? A job in the background for SF ? Co opted ?
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come