The Many Faces of US Politics...

Started by Tyrones own, March 20, 2009, 09:29:14 PM

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jb77

Trump invites a supposed ally to the whitehouse just to berate him, odd times we live in. Zelensky done right leaving but a pity the future of US intelligence and support is looking all but over

Wildweasel74

Germany/ France sooner or later need start taking Russia serious. They are the 2 big countries that can gear up and arm the Urkaine. Go for the same mineral deal America looking.

Wildweasel74

Here America f**k the Uk and Ireland over in the morning if they thought it suit them. America just proofed to be untrustworthy, and the sooner Ireland looks at self funding themselves and reduce the impact of big overseas corporations. It's gonna bite us on the ass. You gotta worry about Gaza too when u see this mentality.

gallsman

Quote from: whitey on February 28, 2025, 01:14:03 PMKids in school can't hardly read, write or do basic math

And plenty of their adults are thick as champ too.

gallsman

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 28, 2025, 07:20:54 PMYou gotta worry about Gaza too when u see this mentality.

Have you not seen the video?! Be grand, sure. Trump Gaza #1!

Captain Obvious

Quote from: jb77 on February 28, 2025, 07:12:12 PMTrump invites a supposed ally to the whitehouse just to berate him, odd times we live in. Zelensky done right leaving but a pity the future of US intelligence and support is looking all but over
Just watched back on that shit show in the  Oval Office.  Zelenskyy stayed longer than he should.  If in any doubt Trump and JD showed themselves up as utter idiots.


Sportacus

#26766
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 28, 2025, 07:34:11 PM
Quote from: jb77 on February 28, 2025, 07:12:12 PMTrump invites a supposed ally to the whitehouse just to berate him, odd times we live in. Zelensky done right leaving but a pity the future of US intelligence and support is looking all but over
Just watched back on that shit show in the  Oval Office.  Zelenskyy stayed longer than he should.  If in any doubt Trump and JD showed themselves up as utter idiots.


Lads, that's VERY high stakes from Zelensky. It's not an argument in a pub we're talking about here. He can't do it without the Americans. Tomorrow is another day in Trump World and this will calm down hopefully, but Zelensky shouldn't have took the bait from that clown Vance. And yes he was totally disrespected, sickening.

Mourne Red

Watched the interview/altercation... I think Zelenskyy starting to dig into say the Americans done nothing in 2014 and through following administrations up to 2022 was clean buck stupid. Of course Trumps going to slap him down.

On Vance - Starting to get notions of himself, never seen a VP have a go at another foreign leader like that before. Needs to know his role and stand in the back

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: Sportacus on February 28, 2025, 07:38:30 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 28, 2025, 07:34:11 PM
Quote from: jb77 on February 28, 2025, 07:12:12 PMTrump invites a supposed ally to the whitehouse just to berate him, odd times we live in. Zelensky done right leaving but a pity the future of US intelligence and support is looking all but over
Just watched back on that shit show in the  Oval Office.  Zelenskyy stayed longer than he should.  If in any doubt Trump and JD showed themselves up as utter idiots.


Lads, that's VERY high stakes from Zelensky. It's not an argument in a pub we're talking about here. He can't do it without the Americans. Tomorrow is another day in Trump World and this will calm down hopefully, but Zelensky shouldn't have took the bait from that clown Vance. And yes he was totally disrespected, sickening.

Dunno. Tougher without the yanks, but this is by some distance the loudest wake up call for everyone else.

If Russian tanks rolled into Estonia, Poland etc tomorrow (or tried to), how many thinks the yanks would honour their NATO commitments?

i usse an speelchekor

joemamas

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 28, 2025, 07:20:54 PMHere America f**k the Uk and Ireland over in the morning if they thought it suit them. America just proofed to be untrustworthy, and the sooner Ireland looks at self funding themselves and reduce the impact of big overseas corporations. It's gonna bite us on the ass. You gotta worry about Gaza too when u see this mentality.

yep,
Lets take back the celtic tiger and post celtic tiger era.
Ireland was absolutley decimated by emigration from about 1983-1992.
How many rural towns have a lot of folks between the ages of 55-65  ??
Only for The US corpoartions setting up in Ireland(yes with very favourable tax rates) that mass emigration would have continued to the next generation.
What the F, did any european country or the UK do for Ireland post independence, when it was left in tatters.
a lot of houses did not get basic services like electricty and plumbing for 40 or 50 + years after.

Milltown Row2

In life people have a tipping point, and Zelenskyy probably should have used a bitta diplomacy but thank f**k someone didn't bend over and take it up the ass from those American fucks.

Unfortunately now Zelenskyy will need some help elsewhere and Putin will take advantage and eventually move in  Ukraine a lot quicker, or maybe he'll call trumps bluff and see what cards he actually has.

Either way Trump is a Cnut and anyone that supports him and his ideas is a Cnut also in my book
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Tubberman

Quote from: joemamas on February 28, 2025, 08:12:16 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on February 28, 2025, 07:20:54 PMHere America f**k the Uk and Ireland over in the morning if they thought it suit them. America just proofed to be untrustworthy, and the sooner Ireland looks at self funding themselves and reduce the impact of big overseas corporations. It's gonna bite us on the ass. You gotta worry about Gaza too when u see this mentality.

yep,
Lets take back the celtic tiger and post celtic tiger era.
Ireland was absolutley decimated by emigration from about 1983-1992.
How many rural towns have a lot of folks between the ages of 55-65  ??
Only for The US corpoartions setting up in Ireland(yes with very favourable tax rates) that mass emigration would have continued to the next generation.
What the F, did any european country or the UK do for Ireland post independence, when it was left in tatters.
a lot of houses did not get basic services like electricty and plumbing for 40 or 50 + years after.


That is no reason to turn a blind eye, or worse, defend the Trump administration.  they're actively hostile to Europe and pro-Russia
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

Captain Obvious

Quote from: Sportacus on February 28, 2025, 07:38:30 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on February 28, 2025, 07:34:11 PM
Quote from: jb77 on February 28, 2025, 07:12:12 PMTrump invites a supposed ally to the whitehouse just to berate him, odd times we live in. Zelensky done right leaving but a pity the future of US intelligence and support is looking all but over
Just watched back on that shit show in the  Oval Office.  Zelenskyy stayed longer than he should.  If in any doubt Trump and JD showed themselves up as utter idiots.


Lads, that's VERY high stakes from Zelensky. It's not an argument in a pub we're talking about here. He can't do it without the Americans. Tomorrow is another day in Trump World and this will calm down hopefully, but Zelensky shouldn't have took the bait from that clown Vance. And yes he was totally disrespected, sickening.

A full blown drunk in a pub would display more intelligence than Trump and Vance. 

gallsman

Quote from: Mourne Red on February 28, 2025, 08:02:10 PMOn Vance - Starting to get notions of himself, never seen a VP have a go at another foreign leader like that before. Needs to know his role and stand in the back

Trump needs someone close to him to make sure his nappy ain't leaking.

Banks of the Bann

Quote from: Mourne Red on February 28, 2025, 08:02:10 PMWatched the interview/altercation... I think Zelenskyy starting to dig into say the Americans done nothing in 2014 and through following administrations up to 2022 was clean buck stupid. Of course Trumps going to slap him down.

On Vance - Starting to get notions of himself, never seen a VP have a go at another foreign leader like that before. Needs to know his role and stand in the back

What press conference did you watch?

He was trying to explain, after being lectured by Vance (who knows f**k all about anything) about diplomacy, that diplomacy with Putin is useless. Trump couldn't even get the year right. Vance thought it was 'disrespectful' for Zelenskyy to try to put forward his point of view. Astounding arrogance and ignorance all at once.

And he was right, Russia marched into Ukraine in 2014 and the US (Obama) did f**k all. That wasn't even the main thrust of his argument, it was about the lack of trust in Putin.

As for saying thanks - Zelenskyy has done nothing but say thanks to the US these past 3 years.

I think Trump was always going to f**k Ukraine over so it's better it's out in the open again. Europe was probably given false hope again after Starmer's visit yesterday.