Ireland's Greatest Sporting Moment RTE 2

[tonto1888]

Would Rob Heffernan's World Championship win in 2013 not be as good an achievement as O'Sullivan's?

Maybe walking isn't a real sport. Loads of people just watch the walking for the party afterwards and most of them have never walked in their life.

Walking is a sport but it'd bore a monk to tears.

Anyone trying to discredit sports as sports needs to get their ego in check.

Some sports are better than others, some "sports" aren't even really sports, they merely require a lot of dedication and hard work and pretty much zero in the way of natural skill or ability

My goodness, is that a climb down? Some sports aren't really sports?

Is it a climbdown? No

Is it a recognition that some people deem events that should not be considered as sports, as sports? Yes.

The likes of weightlifting, rugby, etc require things like size, a lot of gym work and a considerable amount of steroids.

Events like walking just involve taking a form of exercise very seriously.

They are absent of skill.

Quite a high number of soccer players are totally devoid of skill including most Irish players. They are just physically strong and hard working. They can't trap a ball, pass the ball or use their weaker foot.

I doubt they are devoid of skill. To make it as a professional in football is very tough to do. It's easier to make it to the highest level of international rugby than it is to make it in non-league football.

Who was the Irish Rugby international who took up Rugby when he was around 18? Says it all really.

What does it say?

That you don't need any skill to make it in rugby. Just brute strength and size.

Yawn yawn. A bit like soccer then with kevin moran taking it up when he was at ucd and Didier drogba taking it up when he was 15.

Both of those statements are untrue. Moran and Drogba started much earlier than that.

It's very true that a 100 cap Irish international took up Rugby when he was an adult.

Ken Norton and Bernard Hopkins?

[Il Bomber Destro]

Would Rob Heffernan's World Championship win in 2013 not be as good an achievement as O'Sullivan's?

Maybe walking isn't a real sport. Loads of people just watch the walking for the party afterwards and most of them have never walked in their life.

Walking is a sport but it'd bore a monk to tears.

Anyone trying to discredit sports as sports needs to get their ego in check.

Some sports are better than others, some "sports" aren't even really sports, they merely require a lot of dedication and hard work and pretty much zero in the way of natural skill or ability

My goodness, is that a climb down? Some sports aren't really sports?

Is it a climbdown? No

Is it a recognition that some people deem events that should not be considered as sports, as sports? Yes.

The likes of weightlifting, rugby, etc require things like size, a lot of gym work and a considerable amount of steroids.

Events like walking just involve taking a form of exercise very seriously.

They are absent of skill.

Quite a high number of soccer players are totally devoid of skill including most Irish players. They are just physically strong and hard working. They can't trap a ball, pass the ball or use their weaker foot.

I doubt they are devoid of skill. To make it as a professional in football is very tough to do. It's easier to make it to the highest level of international rugby than it is to make it in non-league football.

Who was the Irish Rugby international who took up Rugby when he was around 18? Says it all really.

What does it say?

That you don't need any skill to make it in rugby. Just brute strength and size.

Yawn yawn. A bit like soccer then with kevin moran taking it up when he was at ucd and Didier drogba taking it up when he was 15.

Both of those statements are untrue. Moran and Drogba started much earlier than that.

It's very true that a 100 cap Irish international took up Rugby when he was an adult.

Ken Norton and Bernard Hopkins?

So you are now switching to boxers. Hopkins turned his life around after a prison stint, while he was a latecomer to the sport, it still took him a long time to make it to the top of the boxing ladder. It took him 4 years and 21 fights to land his first domestic title and 5 years for his first world title fight.

He boxed in his youth and boxed when in prison.

Norton had a four year amateur career behind him before turning pro.

The lack of comparable cases to Hayes says it all.

[tonto1888]

Would Rob Heffernan's World Championship win in 2013 not be as good an achievement as O'Sullivan's?

Maybe walking isn't a real sport. Loads of people just watch the walking for the party afterwards and most of them have never walked in their life.

Walking is a sport but it'd bore a monk to tears.

Anyone trying to discredit sports as sports needs to get their ego in check.

Some sports are better than others, some "sports" aren't even really sports, they merely require a lot of dedication and hard work and pretty much zero in the way of natural skill or ability

My goodness, is that a climb down? Some sports aren't really sports?

Is it a climbdown? No

Is it a recognition that some people deem events that should not be considered as sports, as sports? Yes.

The likes of weightlifting, rugby, etc require things like size, a lot of gym work and a considerable amount of steroids.

Events like walking just involve taking a form of exercise very seriously.

They are absent of skill.

Quite a high number of soccer players are totally devoid of skill including most Irish players. They are just physically strong and hard working. They can't trap a ball, pass the ball or use their weaker foot.

I doubt they are devoid of skill. To make it as a professional in football is very tough to do. It's easier to make it to the highest level of international rugby than it is to make it in non-league football.

Who was the Irish Rugby international who took up Rugby when he was around 18? Says it all really.

What does it say?

That you don't need any skill to make it in rugby. Just brute strength and size.

Yawn yawn. A bit like soccer then with kevin moran taking it up when he was at ucd and Didier drogba taking it up when he was 15.

Both of those statements are untrue. Moran and Drogba started much earlier than that.

It's very true that a 100 cap Irish international took up Rugby when he was an adult.

Ken Norton and Bernard Hopkins?

So you are now switching to boxers. Hopkins turned his life around after a prison stint, while he was a latecomer to the sport, it still took him a long time to make it to the top of the boxing ladder. It took him 4 years and 21 fights to land his first domestic title and 5 years for his first world title fight.

He boxed in his youth and boxed when in prison.

Norton had a four year amateur career behind him before turning pro.

The lack of comparable cases to Hayes says it all.

we are talking sports people here aren't we?
Hopkins didn't start boxing until prison and Norton didn't start until he was in the marines.
How long did this Hayes play for before he was capped for Ireland?

[lenny]

Would Rob Heffernan's World Championship win in 2013 not be as good an achievement as O'Sullivan's?

Maybe walking isn't a real sport. Loads of people just watch the walking for the party afterwards and most of them have never walked in their life.

Walking is a sport but it'd bore a monk to tears.

Anyone trying to discredit sports as sports needs to get their ego in check.

Some sports are better than others, some "sports" aren't even really sports, they merely require a lot of dedication and hard work and pretty much zero in the way of natural skill or ability

My goodness, is that a climb down? Some sports aren't really sports?

Is it a climbdown? No

Is it a recognition that some people deem events that should not be considered as sports, as sports? Yes.

The likes of weightlifting, rugby, etc require things like size, a lot of gym work and a considerable amount of steroids.

Events like walking just involve taking a form of exercise very seriously.

They are absent of skill.

Quite a high number of soccer players are totally devoid of skill including most Irish players. They are just physically strong and hard working. They can't trap a ball, pass the ball or use their weaker foot.

I doubt they are devoid of skill. To make it as a professional in football is very tough to do. It's easier to make it to the highest level of international rugby than it is to make it in non-league football.

Who was the Irish Rugby international who took up Rugby when he was around 18? Says it all really.

What does it say?

That you don't need any skill to make it in rugby. Just brute strength and size.

Yawn yawn. A bit like soccer then with kevin moran taking it up when he was at ucd and Didier drogba taking it up when he was 15.

Both of those statements are untrue. Moran and Drogba started much earlier than that.

It's very true that a 100 cap Irish international took up Rugby when he was an adult.

Oh well if you said it then it must be true. NOT.

[Il Bomber Destro]

Would Rob Heffernan's World Championship win in 2013 not be as good an achievement as O'Sullivan's?

Maybe walking isn't a real sport. Loads of people just watch the walking for the party afterwards and most of them have never walked in their life.

Walking is a sport but it'd bore a monk to tears.

Anyone trying to discredit sports as sports needs to get their ego in check.

Some sports are better than others, some "sports" aren't even really sports, they merely require a lot of dedication and hard work and pretty much zero in the way of natural skill or ability

My goodness, is that a climb down? Some sports aren't really sports?

Is it a climbdown? No

Is it a recognition that some people deem events that should not be considered as sports, as sports? Yes.

The likes of weightlifting, rugby, etc require things like size, a lot of gym work and a considerable amount of steroids.

Events like walking just involve taking a form of exercise very seriously.

They are absent of skill.

Quite a high number of soccer players are totally devoid of skill including most Irish players. They are just physically strong and hard working. They can't trap a ball, pass the ball or use their weaker foot.

I doubt they are devoid of skill. To make it as a professional in football is very tough to do. It's easier to make it to the highest level of international rugby than it is to make it in non-league football.

Who was the Irish Rugby international who took up Rugby when he was around 18? Says it all really.

What does it say?

That you don't need any skill to make it in rugby. Just brute strength and size.

Yawn yawn. A bit like soccer then with kevin moran taking it up when he was at ucd and Didier drogba taking it up when he was 15.

Both of those statements are untrue. Moran and Drogba started much earlier than that.

It's very true that a 100 cap Irish international took up Rugby when he was an adult.

Oh well if you said it then it must be true. NOT.

It's hilarious the way all the rugby fans here have to fabricate falsehoods to contend arguments.

So far we've had lies told about Sean Og O'Hailpin, Kevin Moran and Didier Drogba.

[magpie seanie]

As if the TV programme wasn't bad enough, this thread is worse.

Just to clarify......it's Ireland's Greatest Sporting Moment.....not victory, not tournament, not sport.....MOMENT.

So it can't be Italia 90. That was 3 weeks or so.

In gaelic games off the top of my head - Mikey Sheehy lobbing Paddy Cullen, Joe McDonagh singing "The West's Awake", Seamus Darby's goal in '82, Maurice's sideline point in Thurles.....these are great moments.

Soccer - Gary MacKay v Bulgaria, Ray Houghton in Stuttgart and Giants Stadium, Niall Quinn v Holland and in Wembley, Sheedy in Sardinia, O'Leary penalty and/or Packie save v Romania, Roy Keane lifting Overmars out of it in 2001.

John Treacy's silver with that famous commentary in 1984. Sonia's silver in 2000 was a huge moment too. Think I had a mini stroke looking at that sprint for the line. Many, many others.

[Billys Boots]

As if the TV programme wasn't bad enough, this thread is worse.

Just to clarify......it's Ireland's Greatest Sporting Moment.....not victory, not tournament, not sport.....MOMENT.

So it can't be Italia 90. That was 3 weeks or so.

In gaelic games off the top of my head - Mikey Sheehy lobbing Paddy Cullen, Joe McDonagh singing "The West's Awake", Seamus Darby's goal in '82, Maurice's sideline point in Thurles.....these are great moments.

Soccer - Gary MacKay v Bulgaria, Ray Houghton in Stuttgart and Giants Stadium, Niall Quinn v Holland and in Wembley, Sheedy in Sardinia, O'Leary penalty and/or Packie save v Romania, Roy Keane lifting Overmars out of it in 2001.

John Treacy's silver with that famous commentary in 1984. Sonia's silver in 2000 was a huge moment too. Think I had a mini stroke looking at that sprint for the line. Many, many others.

I'd have said that my favourite sporting moment was Van Gaal bringing on his fifth striker against us in 2001. 

[tonto1888]

As if the TV programme wasn't bad enough, this thread is worse.

Just to clarify......it's Ireland's Greatest Sporting Moment.....not victory, not tournament, not sport.....MOMENT.

So it can't be Italia 90. That was 3 weeks or so.

In gaelic games off the top of my head - Mikey Sheehy lobbing Paddy Cullen, Joe McDonagh singing "The West's Awake", Seamus Darby's goal in '82, Maurice's sideline point in Thurles.....these are great moments.

Soccer - Gary MacKay v Bulgaria, Ray Houghton in Stuttgart and Giants Stadium, Niall Quinn v Holland and in Wembley, Sheedy in Sardinia, O'Leary penalty and/or Packie save v Romania, Roy Keane lifting Overmars out of it in 2001.

John Treacy's silver with that famous commentary in 1984. Sonia's silver in 2000 was a huge moment too. Think I had a mini stroke looking at that sprint for the line. Many, many others.

Packie Bonnar's penalty save was a moment during Italia 90 so it could be that