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Does it make sense now to restart the game with a kickout ?
« on: August 10, 2017, 11:01:13 AM »
It's a different game to 20 years ago.

Quite well described by this imo :
Quote from: bigloudmouth on August 09, 2017, 11:45:55 PM
"Guaranteed borefest - both teams will defend deep when not in possession, walk the ball to halfway after it has been kicked wide, hand pass or kick short ad nausea as they probe for space - dubs 2 minute soccer style build up to McCarthys point - and repeat over and over with occasional turnovers leading to brief instances of high intensity play - very brief!!"

Would it not make sense to run the ball from the goal line instead of pretending that it is still gaelic football ?
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Re: Does it make sense now to restart the game with a kickout ?
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2017, 11:11:42 AM »
Thr quote doesn't make sense considering tyrone have went long for the most part this year.

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Re: Does it make sense now to restart the game with a kickout ?
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2017, 11:13:59 AM »
After a goal could start again with throw up but not after every wide or point. How much time would be wasted bringing ball back to middle and players getting back into position.

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Re: Does it make sense now to restart the game with a kickout ?
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2017, 11:35:29 AM »
In thought the OP meant starting the match and re-starting after half time with a kick-out, which I think would be a good idea now that we have the mark. The throw-up is often a shambles that results in a wrestling match.
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Re: Does it make sense now to restart the game with a kickout ?
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2017, 12:42:43 PM »
I like the mark. Didnt think it would work at first but it has certainly speeded up the game from long kickouts. Within a few seconds you can move the ball from goalkeeper to forward line.

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Re: Does it make sense now to restart the game with a kickout ?
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2017, 12:56:01 PM »
I like the mark. Didnt think it would work at first but it has certainly speeded up the game from long kickouts. Within a few seconds you can move the ball from goalkeeper to forward line.

Was totally against the mark. Glad to be proven wrong. Encourages some level of long kick outswhich in turn encourages high fielding or athletic catches.

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Re: Does it make sense now to restart the game with a kickout ?
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2017, 12:58:12 PM »
While we're at it, hurling should be started/restarted after half time with a puck out. There's no skill, value or spectator appeal in the beating-about-the-ankles method currently in use.
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Re: Does it make sense now to restart the game with a kickout ?
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2017, 01:03:37 PM »
While we're at it, hurling should be started/restarted after half time with a puck out. There's no skill, value or spectator appeal in the beating-about-the-ankles method currently in use.

That was tried in the past and wasn't taken up. There's nothing wrong with the throw in ball in hurling.

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Re: Does it make sense now to restart the game with a kickout ?
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2017, 01:59:18 PM »
While we're at it, hurling should be started/restarted after half time with a puck out. There's no skill, value or spectator appeal in the beating-about-the-ankles method currently in use.

That was tried in the past and wasn't taken up. There's nothing wrong with the throw in ball in hurling.


Ah there is, I think. There's not much skill, entertaining competition or spectacle involved and often it's the stage for a bit of letting your opponent know you're there type stuff. Let's put it this way, when Eamonnca1 was putting together his excellent video showcase for hurling, he didn't choose to include the beating-about-the-ankles throw in, any more than the ten-man bent-over poking and pawing sessions that often develop in a scuffle for possession when the ball is on the ground.

How could you ask for a better start than a 90-metre puck out with the opportinity for a spectacular catch, turn and score?
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Re: Does it make sense now to restart the game with a kickout ?
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2017, 02:09:15 PM »
While we're at it, hurling should be started/restarted after half time with a puck out. There's no skill, value or spectator appeal in the beating-about-the-ankles method currently in use.

That was tried in the past and wasn't taken up. There's nothing wrong with the throw in ball in hurling.

+1

Absolutely no need for a change here.  There may not be much skill but there's certainly competition and spectacle.
There's a video on youtube of the throw in of the 1998 Munster final replay.  For something that's apparently not entertaining, it's managed to rack up 60-odd thousand views.

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Re: Does it make sense now to restart the game with a kickout ?
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2017, 02:37:43 PM »
OK, I was wrong. There's huge spectacle and spectator value. You have to go back a mere twenty years to find the last entertaining throw-in.
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Re: Does it make sense now to restart the game with a kickout ?
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2017, 04:15:52 PM »
OK, I was wrong. There's huge spectacle and spectator value. You have to go back a mere twenty years to find the last entertaining throw-in.

Yeah, whatever.  ::)

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Re: Does it make sense now to restart the game with a kickout ?
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2017, 04:28:47 PM »
OK, I was wrong. There's huge spectacle and spectator value. You have to go back a mere twenty years to find the last entertaining throw-in.

20? 19 years is sufficient!

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Re: Does it make sense now to restart the game with a kickout ?
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2017, 11:53:35 PM »
OK, I was wrong. There's huge spectacle and spectator value. You have to go back a mere twenty years to find the last entertaining throw-in.

20? 19 years is sufficient!

/Jim

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Re: Does it make sense now to restart the game with a kickout ?
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2017, 11:15:49 AM »
While we're at it, hurling should be started/restarted after half time with a puck out. There's no skill, value or spectator appeal in the beating-about-the-ankles method currently in use.

That was tried in the past and wasn't taken up. There's nothing wrong with the throw in ball in hurling.

+1

Absolutely no need for a change here.  There may not be much skill but there's certainly competition and spectacle.
There's a video on youtube of the throw in of the 1998 Munster final replay.  For something that's apparently not entertaining, it's managed to rack up 60-odd thousand views.

Football fans remember Hurling is perfect no need for any changes at any time . there no defensive tactics no cynicism and no sweepers no black cards needed  and no new counties need apply,
  now feck off back to your bogball
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