We need to talk about the Dubs - get it off your chest

Started by The Hill is Blue, July 18, 2017, 02:48:49 PM

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TheGreatest

Quote from: Main Street on July 27, 2017, 02:10:30 PM
If Milton's statement was about banning non-football related sloganeering, then it would have referred to non-political slogans,
It would have been relatively easy to pass of the non-political stance of the GAA on these matters as part of the reasoning.

As it is, there's no reference at all to the  tiny political element, just a blanket ban on flags >A4  etc. etc.

Sure all the hierarchy in the GAA are Fianna Fail or Fine Gael heads, for example Sean Kelly. They are also Business orientated.

Read - http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/joe-brolly-the-gaa-in-2050-will-be-a-commercialised-and-soulless-place-but-theres-one-man-who-can-save-it-35971593.html

Do we have access to how much the hierarchy of the GAA get paid, how much does your man Milton gets paid etc?

AZOffaly

In fairness Milton is a Round Towers Clubman, so he should be aware of the variables here. I think he's just sent out to face the firing squad.

ashman

Quote from: TheGreatest on July 27, 2017, 02:55:56 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 27, 2017, 02:10:30 PM
If Milton's statement was about banning non-football related sloganeering, then it would have referred to non-political slogans,
It would have been relatively easy to pass of the non-political stance of the GAA on these matters as part of the reasoning.

As it is, there's no reference at all to the  tiny political element, just a blanket ban on flags >A4  etc. etc.

Sure all the hierarchy in the GAA are Fianna Fail or Fine Gael heads, for example Sean Kelly. They are also Business orientated.

Read - http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/joe-brolly-the-gaa-in-2050-will-be-a-commercialised-and-soulless-place-but-theres-one-man-who-can-save-it-35971593.html

Do we have access to how much the hierarchy of the GAA get paid, how much does your man Milton gets paid etc?

Any GAA member can join any political party .  I know members from nearly all parties .

Sean Kelly is the only ex President I know who ever stood for political election,

The salaries of the head boys are published in reports ,  if you want to change these raise the matter at your club.

The GAA has to have a business model or they sink .

Rossfan

Brolly gives out about commercialism etc then goes on to sayou the GAA should have a Board of Directors etc
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Esmarelda

Quote from: ashman on July 27, 2017, 04:37:52 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on July 27, 2017, 02:55:56 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 27, 2017, 02:10:30 PM
If Milton's statement was about banning non-football related sloganeering, then it would have referred to non-political slogans,
It would have been relatively easy to pass of the non-political stance of the GAA on these matters as part of the reasoning.

As it is, there's no reference at all to the  tiny political element, just a blanket ban on flags >A4  etc. etc.

Sure all the hierarchy in the GAA are Fianna Fail or Fine Gael heads, for example Sean Kelly. They are also Business orientated.

Read - http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/joe-brolly-the-gaa-in-2050-will-be-a-commercialised-and-soulless-place-but-theres-one-man-who-can-save-it-35971593.html

Do we have access to how much the hierarchy of the GAA get paid, how much does your man Milton gets paid etc?

Any GAA member can join any political party .  I know members from nearly all parties .

Sean Kelly is the only ex President I know who ever stood for political election,

The salaries of the head boys are published in reports ,  if you want to change these raise the matter at your club.

The GAA has to have a business model or they sink .
I've always wondered about this and so I looked it up  :D I can only see the total salaries figure. Is there a breakdown somewhere?

From the Bunker

Flag ban not meant to antagonise Dublin fans - Milton

27 July 2017


GAA Director of Communications Alan Milton says the ban on the large Dublin flag from Hill 16 isn't an effort to antagonise Dublin fans.

The iconic flag has traditionally been passed around The Hill by Dubs supporters at GAA HQ before games but will no longer be allowed into the stadium for Health & Safety reasons, having been declared as a potential fire risk by Dublin Fire Brigade and thereby outlawed by the GAA.

Former Dublin footballer Vinny Murphy recently pointed out that the flag is no different to the one passed around in the Kop at Anfield or in Celtic Park, and says he hopes the situation can be resolved.

However, Mr Milton said that the situation at Croke Park is different.



"I assume clubs like Celtic are co-operating with the authorities," Mr Milton told the Irish Daily Star.

"That's one club and one club's supporters. We deal with 20 counties in any given year. We don't have the same relationship.

"Croke Park is not Dublin's ground, it's the GAA's national ground for all counties and supporters. It's a different dynamic.

"This directive applies to all areas of the stadium and all supporters. It was in no way meant to antagonise Dublin."

From the Bunker

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 27, 2017, 07:38:37 PM
Flag ban not meant to antagonise Dublin fans - Milton

27 July 2017


GAA Director of Communications Alan Milton says the ban on the large Dublin flag from Hill 16 isn't an effort to antagonise Dublin fans.

The iconic flag has traditionally been passed around The Hill by Dubs supporters at GAA HQ before games but will no longer be allowed into the stadium for Health & Safety reasons, having been declared as a potential fire risk by Dublin Fire Brigade and thereby outlawed by the GAA.

Former Dublin footballer Vinny Murphy recently pointed out that the flag is no different to the one passed around in the Kop at Anfield or in Celtic Park, and says he hopes the situation can be resolved.

However, Mr Milton said that the situation at Croke Park is different.



"I assume clubs like Celtic are co-operating with the authorities," Mr Milton told the Irish Daily Star.

"That's one club and one club's supporters. We deal with 20 counties in any given year. We don't have the same relationship.

"Croke Park is not Dublin's ground, it's the GAA's national ground for all counties and supporters. It's a different dynamic.

"This directive applies to all areas of the stadium and all supporters. It was in no way meant to antagonise Dublin."


That bit made me laugh!  ;D

TheGreatest

Quote from: Esmarelda on July 27, 2017, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: ashman on July 27, 2017, 04:37:52 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on July 27, 2017, 02:55:56 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 27, 2017, 02:10:30 PM
If Milton's statement was about banning non-football related sloganeering, then it would have referred to non-political slogans,
It would have been relatively easy to pass of the non-political stance of the GAA on these matters as part of the reasoning.

As it is, there's no reference at all to the  tiny political element, just a blanket ban on flags >A4  etc. etc.

Sure all the hierarchy in the GAA are Fianna Fail or Fine Gael heads, for example Sean Kelly. They are also Business orientated.

Read - http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/joe-brolly-the-gaa-in-2050-will-be-a-commercialised-and-soulless-place-but-theres-one-man-who-can-save-it-35971593.html

Do we have access to how much the hierarchy of the GAA get paid, how much does your man Milton gets paid etc?

Any GAA member can join any political party .  I know members from nearly all parties .

Sean Kelly is the only ex President I know who ever stood for political election,

The salaries of the head boys are published in reports ,  if you want to change these raise the matter at your club.

The GAA has to have a business model or they sink .
I've always wondered about this and so I looked it up  :D I can only see the total salaries figure. Is there a breakdown somewhere?

That's it the breakdown of each person wages, plus any additional perks, bonus. To me GAA and Croker are a lot like any other governmental institution, a job for the boys.

if you have a link handy it would be great.

Esmarelda

Quote from: TheGreatest on July 28, 2017, 09:07:30 AM
Quote from: Esmarelda on July 27, 2017, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: ashman on July 27, 2017, 04:37:52 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on July 27, 2017, 02:55:56 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 27, 2017, 02:10:30 PM
If Milton's statement was about banning non-football related sloganeering, then it would have referred to non-political slogans,
It would have been relatively easy to pass of the non-political stance of the GAA on these matters as part of the reasoning.

As it is, there's no reference at all to the  tiny political element, just a blanket ban on flags >A4  etc. etc.

Sure all the hierarchy in the GAA are Fianna Fail or Fine Gael heads, for example Sean Kelly. They are also Business orientated.

Read - http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/joe-brolly-the-gaa-in-2050-will-be-a-commercialised-and-soulless-place-but-theres-one-man-who-can-save-it-35971593.html

Do we have access to how much the hierarchy of the GAA get paid, how much does your man Milton gets paid etc?

Any GAA member can join any political party .  I know members from nearly all parties .

Sean Kelly is the only ex President I know who ever stood for political election,

The salaries of the head boys are published in reports ,  if you want to change these raise the matter at your club.

The GAA has to have a business model or they sink .
I've always wondered about this and so I looked it up  :D I can only see the total salaries figure. Is there a breakdown somewhere?

That's it the breakdown of each person wages, plus any additional perks, bonus. To me GAA and Croker are a lot like any other governmental institution, a job for the boys.

if you have a link handy it would be great.
Are you asking for a link to the accounts? I'm not sure if you're saying the individual breakdowns are available or not.

TheGreatest

The top 10 positions or head of each department/function. Not the Admin staff or anything, I just would like to know how much these guys are taking from the pot to pay themselves, I understand we need full time staff to run it, its a curiosity and it should be open as the GAA is owned by the members I thought was the case but slowly fading.

Dave like the tv channel

Dublin = Manchester City.

Crap before all the money flowed in. All Dublin's titles from 2011-onwards should have an asterisk beside them.....ie * sponsored by Croke Park.

TheGreatest

Just bump this up, as other threads are getting polluted with hate, jealousy, vile, ignorant , factually incorrect rubbish.

Il keep this bumped for you all until the championship is over.

Joeythelips

Such a load of rubbish on here, the only talk about Dublin should be what a fantastic team they are. You could argue they are the saviours of the sport itself, when Jim McGuinness won an All Ireland using the blanket defence and most of the other sheep (counties) followed suit it looked like Gaelic football would become a snorefest to watch, but the Dubs had a lot of underage talent coming through and Gavin implemented this high intensity running game with big emphasis on foot passing which is a joy to watch.

This tends to happen when a team is successful that we want a level playing field, but it does not exist and never has done. In the 70s Dublin reached 6 AI finals in a row with a super team, but their dominance did not last forever. The same with the great Kerry football and Kilkenny hurling team of the last decade. Its just the natural order of things. Dublin do have the biggest population and resources but if thats all that needed for success they would be dominating the sport permanently and also hurling.

sligoman2

How did the boycott of the concession stands go?

Hopefully the dubs followed through and made a statement for the bureaucrats
I used to be indecisive but now I'm not too sure.

RedHand88

Quote from: sligoman2 on August 10, 2017, 12:28:54 PM
How did the boycott of the concession stands go?

Hopefully the dubs followed through and made a statement for the bureaucrats

The queue was bad enough in lower cusack. I saw plenty of Dubs on the pints.