The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

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magpie seanie

Quote from: yellowcard on April 05, 2018, 09:42:24 AM
Not much talk about it but Liverpools first goal last night was definitely offside whilst City had one disallowed late on which looked onside. I'm surprised City never made more out of this in interviews afterwards. Those 2 decisions could easily have gone the other way and we'd be looking at an entirely different outcome.

It is very unlikely City will progress now but English football is some way behind the big 2 Spanish clubs and Bayern. I thought the quality of the game last night was mediocre.

I honestly believe the physical toll hits players this year from playing in the Premier League. My belief (and it's only a belief without any data to back it up) is that the Premier League is a more physically demanding league and this tells in March/April. Bayern have a simple task of winning their league and in reality there are plenty of chances to rest players in Spain for Real and Barca.

Regarding your other points - Liverpool did get some breaks. I also seem to remember a potential hand ball by a player on the ground that could have been a penalty. Luck does tend to balance itself out overall though.

yellowcard

Quote from: magpie seanie on April 05, 2018, 09:51:33 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on April 05, 2018, 09:42:24 AM
Not much talk about it but Liverpools first goal last night was definitely offside whilst City had one disallowed late on which looked onside. I'm surprised City never made more out of this in interviews afterwards. Those 2 decisions could easily have gone the other way and we'd be looking at an entirely different outcome.

It is very unlikely City will progress now but English football is some way behind the big 2 Spanish clubs and Bayern. I thought the quality of the game last night was mediocre.

I honestly believe the physical toll hits players this year from playing in the Premier League. My belief (and it's only a belief without any data to back it up) is that the Premier League is a more physically demanding league and this tells in March/April. Bayern have a simple task of winning their league and in reality there are plenty of chances to rest players in Spain for Real and Barca.

Regarding your other points - Liverpool did get some breaks. I also seem to remember a potential hand ball by a player on the ground that could have been a penalty. Luck does tend to balance itself out overall though.

There might be a little bit of truth in what you say but for the last 5/6 years the top English teams are well below the level of the big 3 of Real, Barca and Bayern who seem to make the semis almost every single year. I'm not just saying it because of last night but City have been over hyped because they have coasted to the English title but in European terms they are still not at a level needed to win the competition. City have had ample chances to rest players over the last few weeks with the league done and dusted and no FA cup so I don't think they can use that as an excuse for last nights performance. 

Milltown Row2

Liverpool are 1/9 to progress, thats done and dusted in anyone eyes
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Maroon Manc

Liverpool outstanding, looks like they've shown the template on how to beat this City team. City are more than capable of scoring 3 or 4 goals against Liverpool but if you can play like that last night there's easily a few goals in Liverpool as long as Salah is fit. Liverpool defended brilliantly last night especially in that 2nd half, for all that possession City created nothing.

Ambrose

I've not seen a scouser so excited over one leg since Paul McCartney met Heather Mills...
You can't live off history and tradition forever

StGallsGAA

Quote from: laoislad on April 05, 2018, 08:12:53 AM
Yeah a shame a couple of idiots have to ruin it for everyone else.
A couple?? Couple of hundred more like ye ballix.   Surprising that you haven't tried to blame the City bus driver or something like when you accused the United fans of bringing the Munich chants on themselves.   ::)

AZOffaly

He's an Everton fan. They were worse hit than any other English clubs after Heysel.

Armamike

Awesome first half from Liverpool. That's the way football should be played. Full of intensity, passion, speed and guile. City didn't know whether to sit deep or come out and play. They were bamboozled. By the time they got back some composure it was 3 nil and a long way back.  Liverpool got the breaks with a couple of key decisions but they were good value for the 3 goal win. Thought the ref let the game flow well.  The second half was equally pleasing as it showed the growing maturity in this Liverpool team and better game management. There have been signs over the past few months (around the time VVD arrived) that the stupid mistakes and lack of organisation at the back were being ironed out.  There's more composure and resilience.  This will be tested again in the return leg if City score early, but whatever happens, things are developing nicely.

Disappointing to see the City bus getting attacked.  Morons. 


That's just, like your opinion man.

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Gabriel_Hurl

Can people just put that clown on ignore and avoid him?

J70

Hope they identify the scumbags who damaged the bus. There is no place for that kind of shite anymore, and with the amount of phone footage about, as well as whatever public and TV cameras show, they should have little problem bringing these halfwits to justice and throwing the book at them.

Can't see what the club could do given it was not on their property and was a police matter, but if UEFA comes down on them, so be it. You can't defend that shit. Given that this happens quite regularly across Europe, there obviously should be plenty of precedent for them to fall back on.

I would think it will take a bit of balls on the part of any Liverpool fans heading to the Etihad next week though.

On the game itself, outstanding performance, even if the team got lucky, especially, with the disallowed City goal. Salah's was marginal, but even at that, City had multiple opportunities to defend it and clear the danger. How they left Salah in such acres of room in the first place is what they SHOULD be focused on. You'd wonder why City weren't better prepared, given that they suffered the exact same pumelling in the league match two months ago.

SHEEDY

it didnt take long to try to blame others for last nights trouble.  :o


Everton fans accused of Man City bus damage:

FORMER Liverpool midfielder David Thompson says it was Everton fans who damaged the Manchester City team bus.

Manchester City's coach had at least one window smashed on the journey into Anfield last night and was deemed unusable for the return trip.

It meant a replacement had to be found while Pep Guardiola's team were playing in their 3-0 first-leg defeat.

Merseyside Police are conducting enquiries to identify those responsible for throwing objects at the bus, while Liverpool have condemned the attack and vowed to support City in establishing the facts of what occurred.

But Thompson has thrown a spanner into the works by tweeting: "Heard it was evertonians and not Liverpool fans who damaged the man city coach typical."

After the match, City boss Guardiola expressed his surprise at the incident.

"Normally when the police know that is going to happen, they try to avoid it happening," he said.

"The bus is destroyed. I didn't expect that a club as prestigious as Liverpool would do these kind of things."

Match Commander Superintendent Paul White said: "We are aware that damage was caused to the Manchester City team bus as it approached Anfield stadium ahead of the Liverpool v Manchester City match.

"Thankfully no-one on the bus was injured, but injuries were caused to two of our officers when projectiles were thrown towards the bus. The officers and stewards are there to protect the public and keep them safe.

"This behaviour by a number of people who threw bottles, cans and pyrotechnics towards the bus is completely unacceptable and we will conduct enquiries to identify who was responsible and bring them to justice.

"We worked very closely with both clubs to ensure the safety of the public and the teams themselves, and it is disappointing to see that a number of people behaved in this appalling way."

Express Sport understands UEFA's disciplinary body is awaiting reports before deciding whether to open a case.

Despite the attack on the bus taking place in the streets surrounding Anfield, there is scope for European football's governing body to take action should it deem that to be an area the host club are in control of.

Article 16 of UEFA's regulations about order and security at matches states "host clubs and national associations are responsible for order and security both inside and around the stadium before, during and after matches.

"They are liable for incidents of any kind and may be subject to disciplinary measures and directives unless they can prove that they have not been negligent in any way in the organisation of the match."

The regulations also state that associations and clubs are liable for inappropriate behaviour on the part of their supporters and may be subject to disciplinary measures and directives, even if they can prove the absence of any negligence in relation to the organisation of the match, including a lack of order or discipline observed inside or around the stadium.
nil satis nisi optimum

laoislad

Another assist from Milner last night! That's 8 this campaign which apparently is the joint record.
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

magpie seanie

Quote from: laoislad on April 05, 2018, 02:47:02 PM
Another assist from Milner last night! That's 8 this campaign which apparently is the joint record.

I told ye on this thread at the time it was a great signing for ye. Smashing player, honest as the day is long.

J70

Quote from: SHEEDY on April 05, 2018, 02:45:05 PM
it didnt take long to try to blame others for last nights trouble.  :o


Everton fans accused of Man City bus damage:

FORMER Liverpool midfielder David Thompson says it was Everton fans who damaged the Manchester City team bus.

Manchester City's coach had at least one window smashed on the journey into Anfield last night and was deemed unusable for the return trip.

It meant a replacement had to be found while Pep Guardiola's team were playing in their 3-0 first-leg defeat.

Merseyside Police are conducting enquiries to identify those responsible for throwing objects at the bus, while Liverpool have condemned the attack and vowed to support City in establishing the facts of what occurred.

But Thompson has thrown a spanner into the works by tweeting: "Heard it was evertonians and not Liverpool fans who damaged the man city coach typical."

After the match, City boss Guardiola expressed his surprise at the incident.

"Normally when the police know that is going to happen, they try to avoid it happening," he said.

"The bus is destroyed. I didn't expect that a club as prestigious as Liverpool would do these kind of things."

Match Commander Superintendent Paul White said: "We are aware that damage was caused to the Manchester City team bus as it approached Anfield stadium ahead of the Liverpool v Manchester City match.

"Thankfully no-one on the bus was injured, but injuries were caused to two of our officers when projectiles were thrown towards the bus. The officers and stewards are there to protect the public and keep them safe.

"This behaviour by a number of people who threw bottles, cans and pyrotechnics towards the bus is completely unacceptable and we will conduct enquiries to identify who was responsible and bring them to justice.

"We worked very closely with both clubs to ensure the safety of the public and the teams themselves, and it is disappointing to see that a number of people behaved in this appalling way."

Express Sport understands UEFA's disciplinary body is awaiting reports before deciding whether to open a case.

Despite the attack on the bus taking place in the streets surrounding Anfield, there is scope for European football's governing body to take action should it deem that to be an area the host club are in control of.

Article 16 of UEFA's regulations about order and security at matches states "host clubs and national associations are responsible for order and security both inside and around the stadium before, during and after matches.

"They are liable for incidents of any kind and may be subject to disciplinary measures and directives unless they can prove that they have not been negligent in any way in the organisation of the match."

The regulations also state that associations and clubs are liable for inappropriate behaviour on the part of their supporters and may be subject to disciplinary measures and directives, even if they can prove the absence of any negligence in relation to the organisation of the match, including a lack of order or discipline observed inside or around the stadium.

Assuming Thompson was serious, he is a complete moron.