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Poll
Question: Has the Dubs gravy train hit the skids?
Option 1: Yes, thankfully votes: 4
Option 2: No, thankfully votes: 2
Option 3: No, the Dubs will be given even more money votes: 12
Option 4: It doesn't matter Mayo won't win it anyway votes: 6
Option 5: It's Tyrone's fault votes: 25
Title: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: StPatsAbu on August 15, 2021, 01:28:12 AM
Is Dublin's forged dominance, delivered by crooked Bertie skimming €1M a year from the taxpayer, finally over?
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: RedHand88 on August 15, 2021, 08:14:15 AM
Is that you Ewan?  ;D
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: hoynevalley on August 15, 2021, 12:29:18 PM
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Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 15, 2021, 12:43:56 PM
Tyrone! I knew it was them! Even when it was Dublin's money I knew it was them!
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Nanderson on August 15, 2021, 01:14:48 PM
Heard Subaru were round at the Dublin training ground lifting all the leased cars and Ciaran Kilkenny was seen at his local Centra looking a job application form
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Itchy on August 15, 2021, 02:17:41 PM
Croke Park costs set to rise as cleaners will now have to be paid to sweep out the dressing rooms.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: RedHand88 on August 15, 2021, 02:19:51 PM
All Coppers gold cards are to be returned within 7 days or they face a fine.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 15, 2021, 10:59:47 PM
Nah the Death Star took out. But the Empire could Strike back next year, leading up to the concluding trilogy  ;lol 😂
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: armaghniac on August 16, 2021, 12:21:50 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 15, 2021, 10:59:47 PM
Nah the Death Star took out. But the Empire could Strike back next year, leading up to the concluding trilogy  ;lol 😂

You only have to look at the Taliban and their comeback.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2021, 08:45:32 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 16, 2021, 12:21:50 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 15, 2021, 10:59:47 PM
Nah the Death Star took out. But the Empire could Strike back next year, leading up to the concluding trilogy  ;lol 😂

You only have to look at the Taliban and their comeback.

That's only cos the West pulled out don't ya know. ;)
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: TheGreatest on August 16, 2021, 10:00:38 AM
One more chance for another one next year if right players are brought back into the fold, and even Dessie goes, after that IMO a barren spell, few heads will go again.

As StPatsAbu, a WUM ! ..
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: RedHand88 on August 16, 2021, 01:06:09 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2021, 08:45:32 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 16, 2021, 12:21:50 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 15, 2021, 10:59:47 PM
Nah the Death Star took out. But the Empire could Strike back next year, leading up to the concluding trilogy  ;lol 😂

You only have to look at the Taliban and their comeback.

That's only cos the West pulled out don't ya know. ;)

Collect your prize in the way out. 1st place.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: StPatsAbu on August 17, 2021, 11:06:12 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 16, 2021, 12:21:50 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 15, 2021, 10:59:47 PM
Nah the Death Star took out. But the Empire could Strike back next year, leading up to the concluding trilogy  ;lol 😂

You only have to look at the Taliban and their comeback.

The Taliban did it off their own bat. Dublin couldn't despite a tenfold numerical advatage until they were given millions by Bertie and the GAA.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Itchy on August 17, 2021, 11:10:54 PM
Quote from: StPatsAbu on August 17, 2021, 11:06:12 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 16, 2021, 12:21:50 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 15, 2021, 10:59:47 PM
Nah the Death Star took out. But the Empire could Strike back next year, leading up to the concluding trilogy  ;lol 😂

You only have to look at the Taliban and their comeback.

The Taliban did it on their own. Dublin couldn't despite a tenfold numerical advatage until they were given millions by Bertie and the GAA.

Totally wrong. Taliban did a deal with Trump, Dublin did a deal with Bertie. Taliban fond of beheading and Dublin were trying a bit of beheading at the weekend too. Taliban are sponsored by Toyota Hilux, Dublin also sponsored by Toyota

https://www.toyotasandyford.ie/pages/news/toyota-article/world-of-toyota/articles-news-events/2014/Toyota-Announces-Three-Year-Partnership-with-Dublin-GAA.json#:~:text=Toyota%20Ireland%20is%20delighted%20to,car%20partner%20to%20Dublin%20GAA.

It remains to be seen if the Taliban sweep out dressing rooms but I think the comparison above is perfect.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: dublin7 on August 18, 2021, 09:24:24 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 17, 2021, 11:10:54 PM
Quote from: StPatsAbu on August 17, 2021, 11:06:12 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 16, 2021, 12:21:50 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 15, 2021, 10:59:47 PM
Nah the Death Star took out. But the Empire could Strike back next year, leading up to the concluding trilogy  ;lol 😂

You only have to look at the Taliban and their comeback.

The Taliban did it on their own. Dublin couldn't despite a tenfold numerical advatage until they were given millions by Bertie and the GAA.

Totally wrong. Taliban did a deal with Trump, Dublin did a deal with Bertie. Taliban fond of beheading and Dublin were trying a bit of beheading at the weekend too. Taliban are sponsored by Toyota Hilux, Dublin also sponsored by Toyota

https://www.toyotasandyford.ie/pages/news/toyota-article/world-of-toyota/articles-news-events/2014/Toyota-Announces-Three-Year-Partnership-with-Dublin-GAA.json#:~:text=Toyota%20Ireland%20is%20delighted%20to,car%20partner%20to%20Dublin%20GAA.

It remains to be seen if the Taliban sweep out dressing rooms but I think the comparison above is perfect.

The taliban after being defeated in Afghanistan have come back and now rule the country. Great comparison Itchy. Like you I hope the dubs can come back and reclaim their throne
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on August 18, 2021, 10:15:29 AM
Not much talk now from the usual suspects about the Thousand Year Reich and Dublin's twenty All Irelands in a row. Everyone now seems to agree that we have indeed been looking at a golden generation of players.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Armamike on August 18, 2021, 10:36:56 AM
Even the Dubs must have been getting a little bored with it!  Not winning it again this year might re-energise them a bit.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Itchy on August 18, 2021, 12:14:36 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on August 18, 2021, 09:24:24 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 17, 2021, 11:10:54 PM
Quote from: StPatsAbu on August 17, 2021, 11:06:12 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 16, 2021, 12:21:50 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 15, 2021, 10:59:47 PM
Nah the Death Star took out. But the Empire could Strike back next year, leading up to the concluding trilogy  ;lol 😂

You only have to look at the Taliban and their comeback.

The Taliban did it on their own. Dublin couldn't despite a tenfold numerical advatage until they were given millions by Bertie and the GAA.

Totally wrong. Taliban did a deal with Trump, Dublin did a deal with Bertie. Taliban fond of beheading and Dublin were trying a bit of beheading at the weekend too. Taliban are sponsored by Toyota Hilux, Dublin also sponsored by Toyota

https://www.toyotasandyford.ie/pages/news/toyota-article/world-of-toyota/articles-news-events/2014/Toyota-Announces-Three-Year-Partnership-with-Dublin-GAA.json#:~:text=Toyota%20Ireland%20is%20delighted%20to,car%20partner%20to%20Dublin%20GAA.

It remains to be seen if the Taliban sweep out dressing rooms but I think the comparison above is perfect.

The taliban after being defeated in Afghanistan have come back and now rule the country. Great comparison Itchy. Like you I hope the dubs can come back and reclaim their throne

I don't doubt it, like Afghanistan just got a short reprieve from the Taliban I think the dubs will be back very soon.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: dublin7 on August 18, 2021, 12:42:54 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 18, 2021, 12:14:36 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on August 18, 2021, 09:24:24 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 17, 2021, 11:10:54 PM
Quote from: StPatsAbu on August 17, 2021, 11:06:12 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 16, 2021, 12:21:50 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 15, 2021, 10:59:47 PM
Nah the Death Star took out. But the Empire could Strike back next year, leading up to the concluding trilogy  ;lol 😂

You only have to look at the Taliban and their comeback.

The Taliban did it on their own. Dublin couldn't despite a tenfold numerical advatage until they were given millions by Bertie and the GAA.

Totally wrong. Taliban did a deal with Trump, Dublin did a deal with Bertie. Taliban fond of beheading and Dublin were trying a bit of beheading at the weekend too. Taliban are sponsored by Toyota Hilux, Dublin also sponsored by Toyota

https://www.toyotasandyford.ie/pages/news/toyota-article/world-of-toyota/articles-news-events/2014/Toyota-Announces-Three-Year-Partnership-with-Dublin-GAA.json#:~:text=Toyota%20Ireland%20is%20delighted%20to,car%20partner%20to%20Dublin%20GAA.

It remains to be seen if the Taliban sweep out dressing rooms but I think the comparison above is perfect.

The taliban after being defeated in Afghanistan have come back and now rule the country. Great comparison Itchy. Like you I hope the dubs can come back and reclaim their throne

I don't doubt it, like Afghanistan just got a short reprieve from the Taliban I think the dubs will be back very soon.

They're going to be in All Ireland qtr finals/semi finals every year so they're still going to be there or there abouts. 5 in a row was the target and last year with the shortened season meant a 6th.

These lads have pocketfuls of all Irelands/league titles and the hunger just isn't there anymore. Mannion quit the panel last year. Kevin Mac went to the Olympics with the boxers and Philly has been travelling Europe with Bohs the last few months. They have other priorities now and football is no longer the number 1. I doubt Kerry or Mayo for example had any issues with players putting anything else above football this summer.

Winning 7 in a row would have been great but its hard to motivate lads if that's there only target. There is a still a strong first 15 there but they need to find some young blood to strengthen the overall panel. The league will be interesting next year to see what young players are introduced.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Hound on August 23, 2021, 08:46:05 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 18, 2021, 10:15:29 AM
Not much talk now from the usual suspects about the Thousand Year Reich and Dublin's twenty All Irelands in a row. Everyone now seems to agree that we have indeed been looking at a golden generation of players.
I think they could well be outdone by Limerick's golden generation in the hurling. Consecutive All Ireland finals with 10+ point wins. There doesn't seem to be any Kerry or Mayo within very close striking distance like the Dubs almost always had.

Difficult to predict how long Limerick's dominance will last, but 5 in a row certainly on the cards.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Armagh18 on August 24, 2021, 07:53:49 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 23, 2021, 08:46:05 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 18, 2021, 10:15:29 AM
Not much talk now from the usual suspects about the Thousand Year Reich and Dublin's twenty All Irelands in a row. Everyone now seems to agree that we have indeed been looking at a golden generation of players.
I think they could well be outdone by Limerick's golden generation in the hurling. Consecutive All Ireland finals with 10+ point wins. There doesn't seem to be any Kerry or Mayo within very close striking distance like the Dubs almost always had.

Difficult to predict how long Limerick's dominance will last, but 5 in a row certainly on the cards.
Cork seem to be moving the right way with their underage teams, obviously depends on how those lads step up to senior but will obviously be a few years yet. Bulk of that Limerick team wouldn't be too old either would it?
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Hound on August 24, 2021, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 24, 2021, 07:53:49 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 23, 2021, 08:46:05 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 18, 2021, 10:15:29 AM
Not much talk now from the usual suspects about the Thousand Year Reich and Dublin's twenty All Irelands in a row. Everyone now seems to agree that we have indeed been looking at a golden generation of players.
I think they could well be outdone by Limerick's golden generation in the hurling. Consecutive All Ireland finals with 10+ point wins. There doesn't seem to be any Kerry or Mayo within very close striking distance like the Dubs almost always had.

Difficult to predict how long Limerick's dominance will last, but 5 in a row certainly on the cards.
Cork seem to be moving the right way with their underage teams, obviously depends on how those lads step up to senior but will obviously be a few years yet. Bulk of that Limerick team wouldn't be too old either would it?
Certainly a lot of promise in Cork, but Limerick are an absolute class apart.
The danger is it might be nearly too easy for them and they may not be able to keep the focus on year-after-year the way the Dubs did.

I wonder are people on hurling forums saying Limerick are destroying hurling and it's JP that somehow turned them into a squad of magnificent hurlers, like morons on here saying Bertie turned the Dubs into world beaters 😀
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: johnnycool on August 24, 2021, 09:49:47 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 24, 2021, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 24, 2021, 07:53:49 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 23, 2021, 08:46:05 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 18, 2021, 10:15:29 AM
Not much talk now from the usual suspects about the Thousand Year Reich and Dublin's twenty All Irelands in a row. Everyone now seems to agree that we have indeed been looking at a golden generation of players.
I think they could well be outdone by Limerick's golden generation in the hurling. Consecutive All Ireland finals with 10+ point wins. There doesn't seem to be any Kerry or Mayo within very close striking distance like the Dubs almost always had.

Difficult to predict how long Limerick's dominance will last, but 5 in a row certainly on the cards.
Cork seem to be moving the right way with their underage teams, obviously depends on how those lads step up to senior but will obviously be a few years yet. Bulk of that Limerick team wouldn't be too old either would it?
Certainly a lot of promise in Cork, but Limerick are an absolute class apart.
The danger is it might be nearly too easy for them and they may not be able to keep the focus on year-after-year the way the Dubs did.

I wonder are people on hurling forums saying Limerick are destroying hurling and it's JP that somehow turned them into a squad of magnificent hurlers, like morons on here saying Bertie turned the Dubs into world beaters 😀

JP used his own money but Bertie didn't even have a bank account  ;D


Seriously though Limerick are so dominant and it's not good for the sport and with the professionalism you hear coming out of the Limerick camp it's hard to see how the other counties can compete and I include Cork in that as I need to tweak their style of play. Doesn't matter how fast you can run if you can't win the ball.

The'y give Munster rugby a good go at the oval ball game ffs. The size of them is unreal.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Hound on August 24, 2021, 10:00:10 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 24, 2021, 09:49:47 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 24, 2021, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 24, 2021, 07:53:49 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 23, 2021, 08:46:05 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 18, 2021, 10:15:29 AM
Not much talk now from the usual suspects about the Thousand Year Reich and Dublin's twenty All Irelands in a row. Everyone now seems to agree that we have indeed been looking at a golden generation of players.
I think they could well be outdone by Limerick's golden generation in the hurling. Consecutive All Ireland finals with 10+ point wins. There doesn't seem to be any Kerry or Mayo within very close striking distance like the Dubs almost always had.

Difficult to predict how long Limerick's dominance will last, but 5 in a row certainly on the cards.
Cork seem to be moving the right way with their underage teams, obviously depends on how those lads step up to senior but will obviously be a few years yet. Bulk of that Limerick team wouldn't be too old either would it?
Certainly a lot of promise in Cork, but Limerick are an absolute class apart.
The danger is it might be nearly too easy for them and they may not be able to keep the focus on year-after-year the way the Dubs did.

I wonder are people on hurling forums saying Limerick are destroying hurling and it's JP that somehow turned them into a squad of magnificent hurlers, like morons on here saying Bertie turned the Dubs into world beaters 😀

JP used his own money but Bertie didn't even have a bank account  ;D


Seriously though Limerick are so dominant and it's not good for the sport and with the professionalism you hear coming out of the Limerick camp it's hard to see how the other counties can compete and I include Cork in that as I need to tweak their style of play. Doesn't matter how fast you can run if you can't win the ball.

The'y give Munster rugby a good go at the oval ball game ffs. The size of them is unreal.
Yep, but also Limerick had years of underage success and some really top notch club teams, so I'd imagine their club scene is very competitive.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: larryin89 on August 24, 2021, 10:06:51 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 24, 2021, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 24, 2021, 07:53:49 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 23, 2021, 08:46:05 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 18, 2021, 10:15:29 AM
Not much talk now from the usual suspects about the Thousand Year Reich and Dublin's twenty All Irelands in a row. Everyone now seems to agree that we have indeed been looking at a golden generation of players.
I think they could well be outdone by Limerick's golden generation in the hurling. Consecutive All Ireland finals with 10+ point wins. There doesn't seem to be any Kerry or Mayo within very close striking distance like the Dubs almost always had.

Difficult to predict how long Limerick's dominance will last, but 5 in a row certainly on the cards.
Cork seem to be moving the right way with their underage teams, obviously depends on how those lads step up to senior but will obviously be a few years yet. Bulk of that Limerick team wouldn't be too old either would it?
Certainly a lot of promise in Cork, but Limerick are an absolute class apart.
The danger is it might be nearly too easy for them and they may not be able to keep the focus on year-after-year the way the Dubs did.

I wonder are people on hurling forums saying Limerick are destroying hurling and it's JP that somehow turned them into a squad of magnificent hurlers, like morons on here saying Bertie turned the Dubs into world beaters 😀

Ffs man , do you think it's just coincidence,  that financial doping of Dublin,  jps money into limerick and the two panels were exceptional in s&c .

Even Lowery's few quid paying off in offally.

Why are people in denial about funding been a factor?
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Rossfan on August 24, 2021, 12:20:44 PM
To stop Limerick dominating the Hurley stuff Cork with 3 times Limerick's population need to get the finger out.
Their Co Board needs to go to the Cork Taoiseach, tell him it will be the end of hurling if Cork aren't winning a scatter of AIs every decade and ask for an oul dig out€€€€.
Then tell GAA HQ hurling will die if there isn't a successful Cork hurling team. And ask for twice as much €€€€ per player as any other County.
Then get all their Championship games played at home!!
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Hound on August 24, 2021, 01:56:26 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 24, 2021, 10:06:51 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 24, 2021, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 24, 2021, 07:53:49 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 23, 2021, 08:46:05 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 18, 2021, 10:15:29 AM
Not much talk now from the usual suspects about the Thousand Year Reich and Dublin's twenty All Irelands in a row. Everyone now seems to agree that we have indeed been looking at a golden generation of players.
I think they could well be outdone by Limerick's golden generation in the hurling. Consecutive All Ireland finals with 10+ point wins. There doesn't seem to be any Kerry or Mayo within very close striking distance like the Dubs almost always had.

Difficult to predict how long Limerick's dominance will last, but 5 in a row certainly on the cards.
Cork seem to be moving the right way with their underage teams, obviously depends on how those lads step up to senior but will obviously be a few years yet. Bulk of that Limerick team wouldn't be too old either would it?
Certainly a lot of promise in Cork, but Limerick are an absolute class apart.
The danger is it might be nearly too easy for them and they may not be able to keep the focus on year-after-year the way the Dubs did.

I wonder are people on hurling forums saying Limerick are destroying hurling and it's JP that somehow turned them into a squad of magnificent hurlers, like morons on here saying Bertie turned the Dubs into world beaters 😀

Ffs man , do you think it's just coincidence,  that financial doping of Dublin,  jps money into limerick and the two panels were exceptional in s&c .

Even Lowery's few quid paying off in offally.

Why are people in denial about funding been a factor?
Yep, excellent point on Shane's millions turning Offaly's youngsters into the best in the country in the space of a few weeks.
And all the money Inda threw into Mayo to keep them at the top for over a decade. Supposed to be a once in a generation team, but they keep churning out new players every year.  Must be the money, there can no other reason. 
And presumably it was the Healy Raes who ensured Kerry won an unprecedented 5 minors in a row, which is actually harder than doing it at senior level, given the player turnover. 
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: twohands!!! on August 24, 2021, 06:23:52 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 24, 2021, 12:20:44 PM
To stop Limerick dominating the Hurley stuff Cork with 3 times Limerick's population need to get the finger out.
Their Co Board needs to go to the Cork Taoiseach, tell him it will be the end of hurling if Cork aren't winning a scatter of AIs every decade and ask for an oul dig out€€€€.
Then tell GAA HQ hurling will die if there isn't a successful Cork hurling team. And ask for twice as much €€€€ per player as any other County.
Then get all their Championship games played at home!!

Cork had 220 adult hurling teams registered last year versus Limerick having 90.

Cork      220
Dublin      128
Tipperary      125
Galway      114
Wexford      97
Kilkenny      91
Limerick      90
Waterford      78
Clare      71
Antrim      61
Laois      54
Offaly      48
Meath      43
Westmeath      31
Kildare      27
Kerry      23
Wicklow      22
Carlow      21
Down      20
Derry      16
Donegal      14
Roscommon      14
Monaghan      10
Armagh      9
Sligo      9
Mayo      7
Louth      6
Tyrone      5
Longford      4
Cavan      3
Leitrim      3
Fermanagh      2

Number of teams registered at U20 hurling level last year.



Cork   95
Tipperary   55
Limerick   42
Wexford   41
Galway   39
Kilkenny   38
Clare           32
Waterford   27
Dublin   21
Meath   19
Laois           17
Offaly   13
Kildare   12
Kerry   10
Antrim   9
Carlow   9
Donegal   7
Westmeath7
Derry   6
Roscomon   6
Down   4
Mayo           4
Armagh   1
Fermanagh1
Louth   1
Sligo           1
Wicklow   1
Cavan   0
Leitrim   0
Longford   0
Monaghan   0
Tyrone   0

Number of underage hurling teams registered 2020



Cork   998
Dublin   992
Tipperary   577
Galway   444
Waterford   403
Limerick   400
Clare   344
Kilkenny   329
Kildare   319
Wexford   291
Meath   253
Antrim   179
Offaly   153
Laois   149
Kerry   137
Wicklow   110
Westmeath   90
Donegal   82
Down   82
Carlow   81
Sligo   74
Derry   71
Louth   70
Mayo   63
Armagh   53
Roscommon   50
Tyrone   41
Fermanagh   40
Longford   34
Cavan   32
Monaghan   29
Leitrim   10

Total number of hurling teams registered in 2020

Cork   1313
Dublin   1141
Tipperary   757
Galway   597
Limerick   532
Waterford   508
Kilkenny   458
Clare   447
Wexford   429
Kildare   358
Meath   315
Antrim   249
Laois   220
Offaly   214
Kerry   170
Wicklow   133
Westmeath   128
Carlow   111
Down   106
Donegal   103
Derry   93
Sligo   84
Louth   77
Mayo   74
Roscommon   70
Armagh   63
Tyrone   46
Fermanagh   43
Monaghan   39
Longford   38
Cavan   35
Leitrim   13
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 24, 2021, 07:07:32 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 24, 2021, 06:23:52 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 24, 2021, 12:20:44 PM
To stop Limerick dominating the Hurley stuff Cork with 3 times Limerick's population need to get the finger out.
Their Co Board needs to go to the Cork Taoiseach, tell him it will be the end of hurling if Cork aren't winning a scatter of AIs every decade and ask for an oul dig out€€€€.
Then tell GAA HQ hurling will die if there isn't a successful Cork hurling team. And ask for twice as much €€€€ per player as any other County.
Then get all their Championship games played at home!!

Cork had 220 adult hurling teams registered last year versus Limerick having 90.

Cork      220
Dublin      128
Tipperary      125
Galway      114
Wexford      97
Kilkenny      91
Limerick      90
Waterford      78
Clare      71
Antrim      61
Laois      54
Offaly      48
Meath      43
Westmeath      31
Kildare      27
Kerry      23
Wicklow      22
Carlow      21
Down      20
Derry      16
Donegal      14
Roscommon      14
Monaghan      10
Armagh      9
Sligo      9
Mayo      7
Louth      6
Tyrone      5
Longford      4
Cavan      3
Leitrim      3
Fermanagh      2

Number of teams registered at U20 hurling level last year.



Cork   95
Tipperary   55
Limerick   42
Wexford   41
Galway   39
Kilkenny   38
Clare           32
Waterford   27
Dublin   21
Meath   19
Laois           17
Offaly   13
Kildare   12
Kerry   10
Antrim   9
Carlow   9
Donegal   7
Westmeath7
Derry   6
Roscomon   6
Down   4
Mayo           4
Armagh   1
Fermanagh1
Louth   1
Sligo           1
Wicklow   1
Cavan   0
Leitrim   0
Longford   0
Monaghan   0
Tyrone   0

Number of underage hurling teams registered 2020



Cork   998
Dublin   992
Tipperary   577
Galway   444
Waterford   403
Limerick   400
Clare   344
Kilkenny   329
Kildare   319
Wexford   291
Meath   253
Antrim   179
Offaly   153
Laois   149
Kerry   137
Wicklow   110
Westmeath   90
Donegal   82
Down   82
Carlow   81
Sligo   74
Derry   71
Louth   70
Mayo   63
Armagh   53
Roscommon   50
Tyrone   41
Fermanagh   40
Longford   34
Cavan   32
Monaghan   29
Leitrim   10

Total number of hurling teams registered in 2020

Cork   1313
Dublin   1141
Tipperary   757
Galway   597
Limerick   532
Waterford   508
Kilkenny   458
Clare   447
Wexford   429
Kildare   358
Meath   315
Antrim   249
Laois   220
Offaly   214
Kerry   170
Wicklow   133
Westmeath   128
Carlow   111
Down   106
Donegal   103
Derry   93
Sligo   84
Louth   77
Mayo   74
Roscommon   70
Armagh   63
Tyrone   46
Fermanagh   43
Monaghan   39
Longford   38
Cavan   35
Leitrim   13

These figures are wrong. Derry only have 8 clubs , you must be counting reserves there too
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Rossfan on August 24, 2021, 07:39:31 PM
It's numbers of  Teams, not Clubs.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on August 24, 2021, 08:48:32 PM
No way Donegal have 103 teams
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: larryin89 on August 24, 2021, 09:24:25 PM
So you think it has no bearing on a county and the development of squads ?
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: larryin89 on August 24, 2021, 09:31:49 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 24, 2021, 01:56:26 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 24, 2021, 10:06:51 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 24, 2021, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 24, 2021, 07:53:49 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 23, 2021, 08:46:05 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 18, 2021, 10:15:29 AM
Not much talk now from the usual suspects about the Thousand Year Reich and Dublin's twenty All Irelands in a row. Everyone now seems to agree that we have indeed been looking at a golden generation of players.
I think they could well be outdone by Limerick's golden generation in the hurling. Consecutive All Ireland finals with 10+ point wins. There doesn't seem to be any Kerry or Mayo within very close striking distance like the Dubs almost always had.

Difficult to predict how long Limerick's dominance will last, but 5 in a row certainly on the cards.
Cork seem to be moving the right way with their underage teams, obviously depends on how those lads step up to senior but will obviously be a few years yet. Bulk of that Limerick team wouldn't be too old either would it?
Certainly a lot of promise in Cork, but Limerick are an absolute class apart.
The danger is it might be nearly too easy for them and they may not be able to keep the focus on year-after-year the way the Dubs did.

I wonder are people on hurling forums saying Limerick are destroying hurling and it's JP that somehow turned them into a squad of magnificent hurlers, like morons on here saying Bertie turned the Dubs into world beaters 😀

Ffs man , do you think it's just coincidence,  that financial doping of Dublin,  jps money into limerick and the two panels were exceptional in s&c .

Even Lowery's few quid paying off in offally.

Why are people in denial about funding been a factor?
Yep, excellent point on Shane's millions turning Offaly's youngsters into the best in the country in the space of a few weeks.
And all the money Inda threw into Mayo to keep them at the top for over a decade. Supposed to be a once in a generation team, but they keep churning out new players every year.  Must be the money, there can no other reason. 
And presumably it was the Healy Raes who ensured Kerry won an unprecedented 5 minors in a row, which is actually harder than doing it at senior level, given the player turnover.

I know of a lad at a county at the complete opposite end of the spectrum , if you think them lads who have to beg for expenses to travel to league games or at the same level as lads driving round in sponsored cars ,you're a racing lunatic . Its completely imbalanced and certain counties are on a different planet cause of funding . Dublin in football and limerick In hurling are top dogs in this league . There is nothing more to this . Do you honestly believe a promising underage player in leitrim has the same chance as a promising underage player in Dublin,same access to facilities , guidance,  advice ,s&c  programmes etc etc
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Hound on August 25, 2021, 07:41:11 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 24, 2021, 09:31:49 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 24, 2021, 01:56:26 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 24, 2021, 10:06:51 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 24, 2021, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 24, 2021, 07:53:49 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 23, 2021, 08:46:05 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 18, 2021, 10:15:29 AM
Not much talk now from the usual suspects about the Thousand Year Reich and Dublin's twenty All Irelands in a row. Everyone now seems to agree that we have indeed been looking at a golden generation of players.
I think they could well be outdone by Limerick's golden generation in the hurling. Consecutive All Ireland finals with 10+ point wins. There doesn't seem to be any Kerry or Mayo within very close striking distance like the Dubs almost always had.

Difficult to predict how long Limerick's dominance will last, but 5 in a row certainly on the cards.
Cork seem to be moving the right way with their underage teams, obviously depends on how those lads step up to senior but will obviously be a few years yet. Bulk of that Limerick team wouldn't be too old either would it?
Certainly a lot of promise in Cork, but Limerick are an absolute class apart.
The danger is it might be nearly too easy for them and they may not be able to keep the focus on year-after-year the way the Dubs did.

I wonder are people on hurling forums saying Limerick are destroying hurling and it's JP that somehow turned them into a squad of magnificent hurlers, like morons on here saying Bertie turned the Dubs into world beaters 😀

Ffs man , do you think it's just coincidence,  that financial doping of Dublin,  jps money into limerick and the two panels were exceptional in s&c .

Even Lowery's few quid paying off in offally.

Why are people in denial about funding been a factor?
Yep, excellent point on Shane's millions turning Offaly's youngsters into the best in the country in the space of a few weeks.
And all the money Inda threw into Mayo to keep them at the top for over a decade. Supposed to be a once in a generation team, but they keep churning out new players every year.  Must be the money, there can no other reason. 
And presumably it was the Healy Raes who ensured Kerry won an unprecedented 5 minors in a row, which is actually harder than doing it at senior level, given the player turnover.

I know of a lad at a county at the complete opposite end of the spectrum , if you think them lads who have to beg for expenses to travel to league games or at the same level as lads driving round in sponsored cars ,you're a racing lunatic . Its completely imbalanced and certain counties are on a different planet cause of funding . Dublin in football and limerick In hurling are top dogs in this league . There is nothing more to this . Do you honestly believe a promising underage player in leitrim has the same chance as a promising underage player in Dublin,same access to facilities , guidance,  advice ,s&c  programmes etc etc
Always the same stuff that shows you have this notion in your head and your not willing to listen or debate points raised on the other side.

How about you answer that question, but compare Leitrim to Mayo?

Then, secondly answer the question comparing Mayo to Dublin. Do you honestly believe a Mayo youngster has less chance of coming through than a Dublin youngster? Facts do not back this up.

Do you know much a Mayo player gets compensated for traveling from Dublin to Mayo and back for training?
If two lads travel in the same car, do they both get compensated?
Pre-Covid, thr Mayo lads were well incentivized and compensated for traveling. They don't have to beg for expenses. Still anyone would prefer to not to have to do it like Dublin.

Of course Dublin have a big advantage over everyone with corporate sponsors. And all bigger counties also have an advantage over small counties. But Dublin's advantage in his county players are treated compared to Kerry and Mayo is small.

Not a single cent of games development funding goes to county panels at senior or underage. 
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 25, 2021, 03:29:36 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on August 18, 2021, 09:24:24 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 17, 2021, 11:10:54 PM
Quote from: StPatsAbu on August 17, 2021, 11:06:12 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 16, 2021, 12:21:50 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 15, 2021, 10:59:47 PM
Nah the Death Star took out. But the Empire could Strike back next year, leading up to the concluding trilogy  ;lol 😂

You only have to look at the Taliban and their comeback.

The Taliban did it on their own. Dublin couldn't despite a tenfold numerical advatage until they were given millions by Bertie and the GAA.

Totally wrong. Taliban did a deal with Trump, Dublin did a deal with Bertie. Taliban fond of beheading and Dublin were trying a bit of beheading at the weekend too. Taliban are sponsored by Toyota Hilux, Dublin also sponsored by Toyota

https://www.toyotasandyford.ie/pages/news/toyota-article/world-of-toyota/articles-news-events/2014/Toyota-Announces-Three-Year-Partnership-with-Dublin-GAA.json#:~:text=Toyota%20Ireland%20is%20delighted%20to,car%20partner%20to%20Dublin%20GAA.

It remains to be seen if the Taliban sweep out dressing rooms but I think the comparison above is perfect.

The taliban after being defeated in Afghanistan have come back and now rule the country. Great comparison Itchy. Like you I hope the dubs can come back and reclaim their throne
It's a good comparison - as regards dirty play and incorrigible cynacism , they are well- matched.  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: dublin7 on August 25, 2021, 05:05:40 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 25, 2021, 03:29:36 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on August 18, 2021, 09:24:24 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 17, 2021, 11:10:54 PM
Quote from: StPatsAbu on August 17, 2021, 11:06:12 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 16, 2021, 12:21:50 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 15, 2021, 10:59:47 PM
Nah the Death Star took out. But the Empire could Strike back next year, leading up to the concluding trilogy  ;lol 😂

You only have to look at the Taliban and their comeback.

The Taliban did it on their own. Dublin couldn't despite a tenfold numerical advatage until they were given millions by Bertie and the GAA.

Totally wrong. Taliban did a deal with Trump, Dublin did a deal with Bertie. Taliban fond of beheading and Dublin were trying a bit of beheading at the weekend too. Taliban are sponsored by Toyota Hilux, Dublin also sponsored by Toyota

https://www.toyotasandyford.ie/pages/news/toyota-article/world-of-toyota/articles-news-events/2014/Toyota-Announces-Three-Year-Partnership-with-Dublin-GAA.json#:~:text=Toyota%20Ireland%20is%20delighted%20to,car%20partner%20to%20Dublin%20GAA.

It remains to be seen if the Taliban sweep out dressing rooms but I think the comparison above is perfect.

The taliban after being defeated in Afghanistan have come back and now rule the country. Great comparison Itchy. Like you I hope the dubs can come back and reclaim their throne
It's a good comparison - as regards dirty play and incorrigible cynacism , they are well- matched.  ;D ;D

Taliban are back on top after 20 years of struggles and they are now calling the shots. Hopefully dubs won't have to wait that long to reclaim their title.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: mup on August 26, 2021, 09:08:23 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on August 25, 2021, 05:05:40 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 25, 2021, 03:29:36 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on August 18, 2021, 09:24:24 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 17, 2021, 11:10:54 PM
Quote from: StPatsAbu on August 17, 2021, 11:06:12 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 16, 2021, 12:21:50 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 15, 2021, 10:59:47 PM
Nah the Death Star took out. But the Empire could Strike back next year, leading up to the concluding trilogy  ;lol 😂

You only have to look at the Taliban and their comeback.

The Taliban did it on their own. Dublin couldn't despite a tenfold numerical advatage until they were given millions by Bertie and the GAA.

Totally wrong. Taliban did a deal with Trump, Dublin did a deal with Bertie. Taliban fond of beheading and Dublin were trying a bit of beheading at the weekend too. Taliban are sponsored by Toyota Hilux, Dublin also sponsored by Toyota

https://www.toyotasandyford.ie/pages/news/toyota-article/world-of-toyota/articles-news-events/2014/Toyota-Announces-Three-Year-Partnership-with-Dublin-GAA.json#:~:text=Toyota%20Ireland%20is%20delighted%20to,car%20partner%20to%20Dublin%20GAA.

It remains to be seen if the Taliban sweep out dressing rooms but I think the comparison above is perfect.

The taliban after being defeated in Afghanistan have come back and now rule the country. Great comparison Itchy. Like you I hope the dubs can come back and reclaim their throne
It's a good comparison - as regards dirty play and incorrigible cynacism , they are well- matched.  ;D ;D

Taliban are back on top after 20 years of struggles and they are now calling the shots. Hopefully dubs won't have to wait that long to reclaim their title.

Kerry might have something to say about that since they lead the honours table.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: johnnycool on August 26, 2021, 11:00:05 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 24, 2021, 07:39:31 PM
It's numbers of  Teams, not Clubs.

We'd have a fair overlap in our underage teams where one player would be playing for two teams..

We were in Douglas at a Feile a few years back with our camogs with half our team made up from U12's and not one girl on the Douglas team was U12. So in theory they'd an U14 team and an U12 team like us but probably double or triple the number of players..
The same weekend our U14 hurlers were at Inniscarra which is meant to be a small club in Cork standards, they too had no U12's on their teams and we had plenty.

Cork are a sleeping giant in both hurling and football.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: rosnarun on August 27, 2021, 02:39:21 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on August 26, 2021, 11:00:05 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 24, 2021, 07:39:31 PM
It's numbers of  Teams, not Clubs.

We'd have a fair overlap in our underage teams where one player would be playing for two teams..

We were in Douglas at a Feile a few years back with our camogs with half our team made up from U12's and not one girl on the Douglas team was U12. So in theory they'd an U14 team and an U12 team like us but probably double or triple the number of players..
The same weekend our U14 hurlers were at Inniscarra which is meant to be a small club in Cork standards, they too had no U12's on their teams and we had plenty.

Cork are a sleeping giant in both hurling and football.
Cork seem to be the one county that can come from no where and win an Allireland.
2010 was the ultimate smash and grab.
i rhink  they could benefit from splitting in 3 . Geographicly it too big
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: MayoBuck on August 27, 2021, 03:01:33 PM
Cork didn't come from nowhere in 2010. They were there or thereabouts for the previous 4 or 5 years getting to finals, winning national leagues and U21 all Irelands.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: shark on August 27, 2021, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on August 27, 2021, 03:01:33 PM
Cork didn't come from nowhere in 2010. They were there or thereabouts for the previous 4 or 5 years getting to finals, winning national leagues and U21 all Irelands.

Absolutely. It had been 6 years since anyone other than Kerry had beaten them in championship. They fell over the line in 2010, but it was a long time coming.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: hoynevalley on September 01, 2021, 02:52:31 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 18, 2021, 10:15:29 AM
Not much talk now from the usual suspects about the Thousand Year Reich and Dublin's twenty All Irelands in a row. Everyone now seems to agree that we have indeed been looking at a golden generation of players.

The Bunker very quiet. Good to see she is still Mayo victory.
Title: Re: Is the Empire of Corruption at an End?
Post by: dublin7 on September 01, 2021, 04:07:40 PM
Quote from: hoynevalley on September 01, 2021, 02:52:31 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 18, 2021, 10:15:29 AM
Not much talk now from the usual suspects about the Thousand Year Reich and Dublin's twenty All Irelands in a row. Everyone now seems to agree that we have indeed been looking at a golden generation of players.

The Bunker very quiet. Good to see she is still Mayo victory.

He's still depressed over the dubs finally getting beat.

It's Murphy's law. He follows Mayo for years but because they couldn't beat the dubs he decides that's it I'm supporting Dublin from now on and then look what happens. If I was a Mayo fan I'd be asking him to put Tyrone flags up outside his house and to support them in the final. Teams with him as a supporter are about as lucky as crews who had Unle Albert from Only Fools and Horses as a crew mate